1 00:00:01,399 --> 00:00:05,440 I was listening to the story about It was the story of a family in 2 00:00:05,639 --> 00:00:10,000 Washington and the little boy called the big Foot the cowboy man, and he 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:14,800 had apparently it had made an effort to steal this kid. And it hit 4 00:00:14,919 --> 00:00:21,039 me. My children were in that play pen behind me with nothing but a 5 00:00:21,039 --> 00:00:26,399 mosquito net over him. It could have crept up behind me and taken both 6 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:35,280 of my children and I wouldn't know. His father just got like a Mustang 7 00:00:35,399 --> 00:00:39,079 or something from Wyoming, Okay. He had it out in the corral because 8 00:00:39,079 --> 00:00:42,679 he couldn't put it in the barn with in the stalls with the other horses. 9 00:00:42,719 --> 00:00:45,840 It would cake and made all the other horses nervous. At a seminal 10 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,240 Indian work in the horse trying to break it. Every day they had it 11 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:54,200 out in the corral. The skunky snunk up behind this horse and grabbed it 12 00:00:54,359 --> 00:00:59,119 bon its hind quarters. This particular horse kicks out, jumps over the corral, 13 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:00,560 runs into the pair, you know, to get away. At this 14 00:01:00,679 --> 00:01:04,719 point, the ranchers out there just blessed away with the dirty, dirty sun 15 00:01:04,799 --> 00:01:11,719 gave blends into the swamp. I went up there one day after that or 16 00:01:11,719 --> 00:01:15,400 two days after that, I went up there and sat in the silence up 17 00:01:15,439 --> 00:01:19,040 there, and I'm telling you, man, it was free. It was 18 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,439 crazy, you know it was. There was a crazy vibe up there. 19 00:01:22,519 --> 00:01:25,640 Still. I did what I could to kind of get things under control. 20 00:01:25,719 --> 00:01:27,239 But I told her, I said, you need to get off this property. 21 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,599 I feel like, no matter how strong you are, it's almost like 22 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,959 standing in the ocean. You can't stand still without moving your feet. You're 23 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,480 gonna get knocked over eventually. No matter how strong whatever, you can't withstand 24 00:01:38,719 --> 00:01:51,159 a barrage of of weird spiritual energy. What's up everybody's waye Welcome back to 25 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,480 Paranormal Odyssey, guys. We got a cool one lined up for you today. 26 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,719 Had a chance to sit down with Tim from Florida. Tim is known 27 00:01:57,959 --> 00:02:02,799 as the Long Hair ghost Hunter. He was one of the founders of the 28 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:08,280 Afterlife All Stars paranormal investigation group. Like I said, from my down in 29 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:14,000 Florida, South Florida. Actually had a really really good talk with Tim. 30 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,479 I'm excited for you guys to hear it. Check it out. Let me 31 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:21,560 know what you'd think. I'm not gonna waste any more time. Let's get 32 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:28,280 started. Team with up. Buddy. Hey, guys doing good, good, 33 00:02:29,879 --> 00:02:32,919 very very well. Thank you so much for taking the time to come 34 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:38,520 and hang out with us on this Tuesday evening. Cool it is. That's 35 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:47,199 all. Raleigh fingers, Raleigh Fingers, Yeah, thank you, yeah for 36 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,960 clearing that up here. You know we were tim you and I we were 37 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:57,159 talking about the vaults before you you got family from up around the Knoxville area. 38 00:02:57,159 --> 00:03:00,639 I want to give a shout out to my UH balls baseball team just 39 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:05,919 won the national championship. They were always hot. Oh yeah, they won 40 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,719 the College World Series, first one ever. They've been the best baseball team 41 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:15,120 in the country for the last four years, but they have been knocked out 42 00:03:15,159 --> 00:03:17,479 in the World Series. But this year they got it done. So congratulations 43 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:22,599 to my balls. They did great and because got Harrey got the UM and 44 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:29,000 they were like good dynasty for years. I remember the last I think the 45 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,280 last time I think it was nineteen ninety nine, Tennessee got knocked out by 46 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:36,360 Miami and that's when we were picked to win it all. And I said, 47 00:03:36,439 --> 00:03:38,680 yeah, they have a really good baseball program. But but Tennessee has 48 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:44,639 a picture that has one of these, so I did it in honor of 49 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:49,759 him. So they did great. Yeah, anyway, tim uh, you 50 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:54,319 are a ghost hunter. Tell us about the organization and how you got your 51 00:03:54,439 --> 00:04:00,120 start and what got you interested. I'm a retired paramedic, so I never 52 00:04:00,199 --> 00:04:04,599 had that thing like Grandma standing at my bed or nothing like that. It 53 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,240 was just after, you know, a paramedic in Miami, we saw a 54 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,639 lot of death over the years. I worked on the streets in and in 55 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:17,000 the r so I figured one day, like it was twenty five years ago, 56 00:04:17,079 --> 00:04:19,319 I said, you know, there's got to be something more than just 57 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:25,199 putting people in the ground. And I found that once you kind of opened 58 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,720 yourself up to it. You know, I started hearing noises when I was 59 00:04:29,759 --> 00:04:31,959 walking down hallways. I heard my name a few times, got my hair 60 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:36,600 tugged on a few times. So it kind of went from I wonder, 61 00:04:38,079 --> 00:04:42,240 there's got to be more to it too. Now what do they want? 62 00:04:42,639 --> 00:04:46,600 What do they want to tell us? And I just started investigating like that. 63 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:50,399 And you know when I started, there was you know, we had 64 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:57,560 a compass, baby powder, you know, nothing like what we got today. 65 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,680 It was just it was very primitive. And then I've started teams. 66 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,439 I built teams, I've been on teams. I give lectures on it now 67 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:12,959 on ghost hunting and the team now I'm with is real product is After Life 68 00:05:12,959 --> 00:05:19,519 all Stars would Chane up she Haunts and the other ladies. I've met all 69 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:25,639 these ladies through events that I've been doing, and they always seem to be 70 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,600 excited about ghost hunting and looking for answers. Yeah, there they are. 71 00:05:30,439 --> 00:05:36,439 They're sweet. Yeah, they're there to look for answers and try to find 72 00:05:36,519 --> 00:05:42,759 answers for the client, or more importantly, they're there to introduce the field 73 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:47,079 to people when we do our investigations, our public investigations, introduce the field 74 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:53,639 in an honest manner, you know, and not try to make things up. 75 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,519 Just let people know what it's about and get to know the tools. 76 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,160 So they're a special group. Earlier or now I just heard you say, 77 00:06:02,519 --> 00:06:09,879 Tim that they try to do things for the clients. Now do y'all take 78 00:06:10,319 --> 00:06:14,560 Do people call y'all when when they are they believe they're having a problem with 79 00:06:14,759 --> 00:06:17,600 spirits and y'all come and check, or what do y'all do? Yeah, 80 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:24,040 we'll get a call, we do, you know, residents, businesses, 81 00:06:26,319 --> 00:06:29,560 people will call and say they think they hear stuff or they got a feeling 82 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,600 and things. So what we do is will it'll be like me and Jean 83 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,360 or someone else. We'll do a preliminary We'll go there, we get a 84 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:42,439 feel for the place, get another client, do some baseline readings, maybe 85 00:06:42,439 --> 00:06:46,439 some EVPs, and to see if it's really paranormal or if we can find 86 00:06:46,439 --> 00:06:50,000 out what else it could be. Because I've done places where they hear scratching 87 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:55,720 at night, and down here in South Florida we don't have addicts per se, 88 00:06:55,759 --> 00:06:59,839 we have parol spaces. I lift up the you know, the look 89 00:07:00,079 --> 00:07:01,920 there, and I flashed the light around and I saw four eyes. And 90 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,199 I told the lady, I go, honey, you got raccoons. No, 91 00:07:05,199 --> 00:07:10,240 no ghost. She's okay. So, and we've had it where we've 92 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:16,800 called the electromagnetic field reader will pick up a crazy reading on an outlet. 93 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,600 So basically they just got an electrical lead. And if you get a high 94 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:26,279 MF reading and you're like living with it, it'll play with your head. 95 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:31,079 It'll make you like you're dizzy, nauseous being touched, things like that. 96 00:07:31,279 --> 00:07:34,480 So we've had a lot of times I just said, call the electrician out, 97 00:07:34,879 --> 00:07:38,680 see what he says, and after if we need to come back we'll 98 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,639 come back. So, yeah, we do. We'll do anything. You 99 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,639 know, people call us for lace at houses, businesses. I've done a 100 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:51,959 lot of schools on the sly. We've done hotels, museums, things like 101 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:57,000 that. Yeah, I don't know if you mentioned you're in South Florida up. 102 00:07:58,399 --> 00:08:03,800 Yeah, South Florida. We're based out of I guess Pemrick Pines, 103 00:08:03,839 --> 00:08:09,519 but also like West pomp Beach for Lauderdale areas like that. Well we go, 104 00:08:09,759 --> 00:08:13,959 we go all over the place. So we're there to find some answers. 105 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:18,839 Why is it the Florida sayings to just be so damn creepy? You 106 00:08:18,839 --> 00:08:24,360 know, it's weird because I get called by I've had I've been called by 107 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,120 producers sometimes because I've been doing this so long. And when I tell them 108 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,919 South Florida, they're always shocked how active it is. And I go, 109 00:08:33,039 --> 00:08:35,360 well, you know, down here we had you know, we had Native 110 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:41,879 American wars, Civil War pirates, We've had our own drug lords for years. 111 00:08:43,799 --> 00:08:48,159 South Florida was known for uh Mafia because al Capone has a lot of 112 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:54,600 history down here. There's places there's a hotel and Coral Gables where a monster 113 00:08:54,799 --> 00:08:58,440 was killed and that room's supposed to be active. So we have so much 114 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:03,080 activity just you know, just been buried here for years and people are always 115 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:07,759 shocked at you know why South Florida. You know, like you know everybody, 116 00:09:07,759 --> 00:09:11,600 I guess somebody thinks if you're not up northeast then there's no activity and 117 00:09:11,639 --> 00:09:16,559 that's all it's. You know, like like Tennessee and Virginia have Civil War 118 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,000 history, so you know, we've imaged Civil War history down here. So 119 00:09:22,159 --> 00:09:24,480 it's just I always tell people that go, it's not the house, because 120 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,440 everybody thinks Florida South Florida is so newly built, But it's the property. 121 00:09:28,519 --> 00:09:35,840 Usually it's not the apt Sometimes it's the property, not the buildings sitting on 122 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:41,559 it or the people into location. It's the property. Yeah, you guys 123 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:48,799 get very much activity within the schools because I've seen so many videos of people 124 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:54,639 going and investigating high schools, elementary schools, you know, middle schools, 125 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:58,679 and they are always so it's almost like the schools that are investigated, it's 126 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:03,960 more culture guised activity. Yeah, we f had. I mean, I'm 127 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:07,360 a big autism advocate, so down here in Broward, so I got to 128 00:10:07,399 --> 00:10:09,120 know a lot of the principles so a lot of principals will call me and 129 00:10:09,159 --> 00:10:13,120 say, hey, Tim, can you come check out my school? But 130 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,519 don't tell the cleaning people while you're here, or they won't come back. 131 00:10:16,519 --> 00:10:18,600 So I was just telling me, I go, well, we'll tell them 132 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,159 we're going to be like a you know, testing new security equipment. Like 133 00:10:22,279 --> 00:10:28,919 okay. But we've had people seeing apparitions poke their head in their office. 134 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,720 I had a ladies that an old lady sticks are head in their office every 135 00:10:31,799 --> 00:10:39,559 night. One night at one school, they caught a life size apparition on 136 00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:46,039 the camera where the bus slip is and it was making purposeful mark walking. 137 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,720 And when I did a little checking around, I found out there's some guy 138 00:10:50,799 --> 00:10:56,559 off himself in that area like five years prior. And schools are just known 139 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,799 to be active. You know, they had theaters. You know, a 140 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:03,919 lot of schools down here Field years are active. And y I guess you 141 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,279 know I've never thought about that. I mean, that's a good question. 142 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:13,240 Why. I mean the schools you think about you think about well, I 143 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:18,000 think about fun. That's where you grew up, you made friends and learned 144 00:11:18,039 --> 00:11:22,480 and stuff. I mean, wow, at school, But there might be 145 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,679 it because I mean, you know, the old lady I found out. 146 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:31,080 I think old lady was volunteering at the school and she's been there for years 147 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,919 and she had a massive MND died in the library, but she probably enjoyed 148 00:11:35,919 --> 00:11:41,200 being there because she volunteered her time for many years. A lot of people, 149 00:11:41,279 --> 00:11:43,679 you know, it's like everyone's the one I ever find his memories. 150 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,919 We've you know, I've had it where people think it's just you know, 151 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:52,759 students have died at some schools from falls and things like that, so maybe 152 00:11:52,759 --> 00:11:58,039 it's the student that you know that was his last place there. But schools 153 00:11:58,039 --> 00:12:03,919 are always crazy. Schools in theater are always nuts. Yet theaters. Yeah, 154 00:12:03,919 --> 00:12:07,279 and that's what I've heard is because you have so many different energies there, 155 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:13,320 you know, like happiness and you know, depression and sadness and stress 156 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:18,919 because you know, anxiety, so all of that leaves an imprint within the 157 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:24,039 building itself, and it's just like it's this feeding frenzy. Yeah, it's 158 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:31,440 I've done eight or nine and I think eight or nine I did that. 159 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,559 We're active. I've gotten like twelve or thirteen, but eight or nine I've 160 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:39,000 had some kind of stuff going on there, and it's just a comfortable place 161 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:43,360 from I think, you know, they just remember the good times. Yeah, 162 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:50,159 that poor guy remember the bad times. Yeah, but we got uh 163 00:12:50,639 --> 00:12:54,360 Gina Locke. Is this Gina from She Haunts? Yeah? There she is. 164 00:12:54,799 --> 00:12:58,919 Tim is a great investigator and paranormal team member. I wanted to say 165 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,960 hello to Gina. She is the lady we had on What She Haunts. 166 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,639 We got to get you back, ma'am. I know we talked about it 167 00:13:05,639 --> 00:13:09,440 briefly, getting you back for a part two, but we need to get 168 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:13,759 you back. Thank you for hanging out tonight. She's sweet. Yeah, 169 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:18,879 what does she say? Schools are also a really happy place for many children, 170 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:26,240 so maybe they choose to go there. Yeah, they might have like 171 00:13:26,279 --> 00:13:28,279 a rough home life. In the schools, the only like for teachers care 172 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:33,159 for them and give them some comfort and support. That maybe all they get. 173 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,200 I remember, like most of us, I'm sure most people would agree. 174 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,600 While you're in school, especially high school, you can't wait to get 175 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,519 out. I can't wait to get out of high school. And then now 176 00:13:43,519 --> 00:13:46,639 as an adult, I'd give anything if I could go back. Yeah. 177 00:13:46,879 --> 00:13:50,639 Yeah, like, oh my god, I got to go to work every 178 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,799 day. Yeah, I don't get the summers off no, No, that's 179 00:13:54,799 --> 00:13:58,440 your teacher. No, that's right. Well, one of the questions I 180 00:13:58,519 --> 00:14:01,639 asked I remember asking her when she was on I want to ask you as 181 00:14:01,639 --> 00:14:09,519 well, tim Saint Augustine. I've heard so many stories about Saint Augustine being 182 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:15,559 like very very haunted, and Gina was able to share a little bit about 183 00:14:16,039 --> 00:14:20,759 that city. Are you familiar at all with anything out there. I've gone 184 00:14:20,799 --> 00:14:24,039 up there. I've done a lot of towns where people go what you go 185 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:28,360 to Savannah on a tour. No, I've gone to do houses. I've 186 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:33,440 done more houses and residentials and businesses and cities where I didn't do the tour. 187 00:14:33,519 --> 00:14:37,519 I just went up there to investigate. I've caught a lot of houses 188 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,759 up there active because the whole town is is a you know, it's it's 189 00:14:41,799 --> 00:14:46,120 like I tell people when you ask about Florida, I go, you know, 190 00:14:48,039 --> 00:14:50,879 everywhere you walk, there's a dead Indian under you somewhere, there's a 191 00:14:50,879 --> 00:14:54,960 dead Native American under you somewhere. And Saint august seems the same way. 192 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,799 They got so much history up there, and a lot of people have this 193 00:15:00,279 --> 00:15:05,360 that Florida's very active because it's surrounded by water and the rock we have here 194 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:09,279 is granted and coral and that brings a lot of energy. So you put 195 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:15,840 all that together, plus the historic things that you know that happened, pirates, 196 00:15:16,279 --> 00:15:22,120 killings, wars, everything like that. Yes, when I went saying 197 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,200 I've seen for houses, it was always it was worth the trip just to 198 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:33,600 go to investigate the house because I knew something would happen. Okay, Tim, 199 00:15:33,639 --> 00:15:37,039 what is and all the years you've been doing this, what twenty something? 200 00:15:37,039 --> 00:15:43,159 How many? How long? Twenty twenty five close five years? What 201 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:50,080 would you say is the most haunted place you have ever stepped foot into? 202 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,879 And what can you tell us about that place? But you know, people 203 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,759 always ask me, you know, they see the shows and they think everything's 204 00:15:56,799 --> 00:15:58,440 demonic. I've been doing this all these years, and I've been in one 205 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:03,559 bad place. So we were doing a house in Lake Wales. Well, 206 00:16:03,639 --> 00:16:07,360 Lake Wales is a town like if you're going to Disney World, you make 207 00:16:07,399 --> 00:16:10,960 a left and you go east. It's in the middle of nowhere, but 208 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,919 it was built by monks. The town was built by monks. So we 209 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,200 got called to do this house. This is were cell phones. So we 210 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:22,399 pulled over and called the lady who said we'll be there in ten minutes. 211 00:16:22,399 --> 00:16:25,919 They were staying in a hotel. It was her and her husband. It 212 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,639 was like a second home. They were an older couple. We pulled up 213 00:16:29,679 --> 00:16:32,840 and the husband literally was sitting on the car and yelled, hey, they're 214 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,120 here, and she threw his luggage out to him. He went and go 215 00:16:36,159 --> 00:16:41,720 back in the house because he claimed he was attacked a few times. So 216 00:16:41,759 --> 00:16:45,480 while we were there, the lady threw me keys and said, listen, 217 00:16:47,159 --> 00:16:48,679 we'll see you guys sunday. I said, oh, swing see her all 218 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,360 weekend. Yeah yeah, So I go, okay. So I was going 219 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,360 to rest and I want to lay down, and our sensitive came down and 220 00:16:56,399 --> 00:16:59,840 she was tim, we can't sleep until we clean this place. This place 221 00:16:59,879 --> 00:17:03,079 is nasty, and I was a little frustrated. I got him next to 222 00:17:03,119 --> 00:17:07,000 the couch and go, yeah, that's bs and I got shoved and I 223 00:17:07,039 --> 00:17:12,680 went, oh, okay, we'll be friends. And then that night my 224 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,559 computer guy, who always did a lot of experiments, we had a camera 225 00:17:17,599 --> 00:17:22,079 on him. He was up in the grandkid's room. He caught He called 226 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:26,559 me up because he caught on the bunk beds two indentations hitting the bunk bed 227 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,519 like someone jumping up on it. Oh God, So I go, well, 228 00:17:30,519 --> 00:17:33,920 that's pretty cool. Let men know one else, And like an hour 229 00:17:33,039 --> 00:17:41,319 later he started he screamed, oh you know, chit and and he was 230 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,000 he had a real thick South African accent. So to hear him yell that 231 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:49,000 was so funny. Oh jit, what's wrong with it? And we got 232 00:17:49,079 --> 00:17:52,480 up there and he pulled his shirt down and he had a left handed well 233 00:17:53,039 --> 00:17:59,599 on his left shoulder. So even if we didn't have a camera on him, 234 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,720 there's a way that could have happened. Yeah. So I just looked 235 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:04,599 at them. I go, you need to take a break, right man. 236 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:11,400 Yeah. I got to sell and we didn't. Not We stayed there 237 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:17,880 till Saturday night because the couple came back and they said they just sold the 238 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,440 house. They didn't care what we found. They were spending Saturday at the 239 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,720 realtor's office. They'd signed the contracts to sell it. They weren't going to 240 00:18:25,759 --> 00:18:29,799 come back to the place because it was their second house. And then I 241 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,559 talked to some locals. I went out for breakfast Saturday, and some locals 242 00:18:33,559 --> 00:18:37,480 said that I don't know how true this is, but lake Worth was built 243 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,440 by monks and a lot of times they couldn't get through the rock to bury 244 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,960 them, so sometimes they would just have a service and chuck them in the 245 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:51,240 water. I mean, other than that, you know, I've had my 246 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,640 I've been tugged on. My shirt's been tugged on. You know, I 247 00:18:55,799 --> 00:19:00,359 had my name called. I've seen numerous the shadow people. But that's the 248 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,039 only really bad place I've ever been in most time, you know, like 249 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:10,079 I got my shirt tugged on. My sensitive came in. We're doing a 250 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:14,359 house in like a townhouse. The house is part next to each other. 251 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,799 She said, A little girl wants to see you, but you won't slow 252 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:23,480 down because back in those days we use videotape camcorder, so I always was 253 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,720 walking around checking the tapes and making sure they're not out after you place them. 254 00:19:29,079 --> 00:19:30,839 So I went in the room and sat in the chair, and all 255 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,200 of a sudden, I got my shirt tugged on, and I look down. 256 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,920 I go, hi there. I was playing the AVP and a little 257 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,960 girl said, Hi, help me. And it turns out a girl was 258 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,839 hit on her on her bike like a couple of years before that, and 259 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,960 they brought her into that yard to work on her rescue. Did so I 260 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,920 mean just the shadow. I mean, for me, shadow people are just 261 00:19:55,319 --> 00:20:00,759 they're always, They're never They're always looking around, like checking on you stay 262 00:20:00,799 --> 00:20:10,720 tuned for more paranormal odysty I've seen a lot of them just stuck in their 263 00:20:10,759 --> 00:20:15,000 heads around a corner. They'll in a cemetery, you know, they'll duck 264 00:20:15,039 --> 00:20:19,920 their heads over to the headstones and stuff like that. Because I used to 265 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,440 I would. I used to do a cemetery where the mausoleum, the center 266 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:29,039 mausoleum. I would stand up on the wall, the front wall, everybody's 267 00:20:29,079 --> 00:20:33,079 doing EVP sessions and all that, and I always knew when I look down, 268 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:34,880 I see this guy sticking his head around, the shadow guy. And 269 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,480 it was like a dance we had because I would go look for him, 270 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,039 and of course he'd be gone. So after like a couple of times of 271 00:20:41,079 --> 00:20:42,960 doing this, I like, okay, let's do the dance. Man. 272 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:48,440 I'd walk around my little fleer camera. Okay, he's gone again. So 273 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,079 it was like a dance we had. So I've never other than had that 274 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:57,799 one place. I've never really been in any bad places. It's just I 275 00:20:57,839 --> 00:21:02,880 mean, sometimes you get I've done places so many times we get a little 276 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:07,559 connection going like, yeah, we got a guy down. We do the 277 00:21:07,599 --> 00:21:11,200 place a Gold Coast railroad I did. I found that place haunted as a 278 00:21:11,279 --> 00:21:15,119 railroad museum. And we get a guy says the effort all the time. 279 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,440 He's like, all the EVPs, Frank, how you doing that? F 280 00:21:18,519 --> 00:21:25,319 you Frank? Be nice man. And we get the place that Gene and 281 00:21:25,319 --> 00:21:29,079 I and the team do we've done. We get an old man there and 282 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:33,160 he just doesn't like women. He just you know, the ladies are here 283 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,880 tonight, and he'll call him, you know, w h or sugar or 284 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,279 I go, come on, man, they're nice ladies. Be nice. 285 00:21:40,279 --> 00:21:45,119 You know. It's like so, but I mean, I always walk in. 286 00:21:45,519 --> 00:21:48,839 I had one guy on my team once I sent him up in a 287 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,759 client's house. Scared the hell of the lady because they went up there and 288 00:21:51,759 --> 00:21:57,920 started yelling for like challenging this whatever was there. And uh I never called 289 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:03,039 him back again for anotherstigation because we don't provoke. And I think, you 290 00:22:03,079 --> 00:22:07,240 know, with the Afterlife team and other teams I've had, people have learned 291 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,680 it. You don't have to provoke, you know, you just be nice, 292 00:22:11,799 --> 00:22:15,359 especially if you're going back to the place over and over, you know, 293 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,279 the dead might be like the living. They don't want to deal with 294 00:22:18,319 --> 00:22:21,240 a jerk. You know, if the long haired guy was nice to him, 295 00:22:21,279 --> 00:22:23,480 they'll say, hey, that guy's back. Or if some guy walked 296 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,079 and screamed on him last week, they oh, screw this guy. This 297 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,359 guy's an idiot. We're not going to talk to him because he's screamed this 298 00:22:29,519 --> 00:22:36,480 last time so many Yeah, I mean, if you're nice to him and 299 00:22:36,519 --> 00:22:41,240 pay him with respect, you know, it's a better chance to get a 300 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,000 connection. And if you have to go even if you have to do a 301 00:22:45,039 --> 00:22:48,559 residential again, because we do a lot of follow ups, we don't say, 302 00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:52,000 hey, we didn't find nothing, good luck to you. I always 303 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,799 say, listen, maybe we're not here at the right time. How about 304 00:22:55,839 --> 00:22:59,400 if you leave a make a log for me and call me in a week. 305 00:22:59,519 --> 00:23:03,160 Maybe I'm at the wrong time and then we go back and do it 306 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,119 again the residential or the business. But if you're nice to him, then 307 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,480 you got a chance for a better connection next time you go. Because all 308 00:23:10,519 --> 00:23:15,920 we're really looking for in the end is just some answers. Yeah, what's 309 00:23:15,079 --> 00:23:18,160 what's back? Dark for a minute? Because I had a question about because 310 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:26,240 it's just conflicting information shadow people. In your opinion, do you think shadow 311 00:23:26,279 --> 00:23:33,599 people were once living or they are not something that was you know, that 312 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:41,599 was a living person. Yeah. I just I mean, like the guy 313 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:47,000 I the guy I play with, he's kind of like an intelligent because he 314 00:23:47,039 --> 00:23:51,440 plays the game. So I don't know if they're living or dad. I 315 00:23:51,599 --> 00:23:55,759 just when when people hear about shadow people, they say, well, how 316 00:23:55,799 --> 00:23:57,960 do you know they're there, I go, well, they're darker than dark. 317 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,599 I mean, you could look in a dark room and they'll stand out 318 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:07,359 because they're so dark. But for me, I've never had a bad experience, 319 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,319 so I don't know. I've never really wondered if they were living or 320 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,839 dead. I'm just trying to see if we can't connect, like me and 321 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:18,160 that guy, right, that's just the game we played. And it's funny 322 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,000 because they always do that cat and mouse thing. It's like, hey, 323 00:24:22,039 --> 00:24:23,640 I'm here, so you go there and then now there's somewhere else, or 324 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,119 they'll want you to go into this room, so you go into this room 325 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,079 and then they leave. Yeah, because I mean we've had places where we 326 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:36,680 put rim pods down, like in a big room and these will be going 327 00:24:36,759 --> 00:24:38,720 off and you go over there, and then these will go off, and 328 00:24:40,079 --> 00:24:42,759 it's just you know, it's a dance and I've done that place a lot, 329 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,440 so when we nice to do over nice there, we'd always have the 330 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,839 game. Okay, let's play the game. We're gonna put the rim pods 331 00:24:48,839 --> 00:24:52,519 there. Let us know we're at bepepeep, okay, beepeep. So it's 332 00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:55,960 just, you know, I think if you have a little fun with it 333 00:24:56,039 --> 00:25:00,920 and pay respect, you know, they at least come around, and they 334 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,960 always want to goof with you, and you know, you don't get something 335 00:25:04,039 --> 00:25:07,960 skinned out it. Just say hey, yeah, just say yes, let's 336 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,319 have some fun, right man, So let me know what's going on. 337 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,759 And then I've had it where I've put you know, those cat balls that 338 00:25:15,759 --> 00:25:18,200 everybody likes. I put a cat ball in a pano one night, and 339 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,759 I would show up to events hours early, three or four hours early. 340 00:25:22,799 --> 00:25:26,160 So I put the stuff down and I was walking with the attitude like, 341 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,359 hey man, how you doing today. We're here to just hang out with 342 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,720 you see what's going on? And I put the cat ball down and I 343 00:25:32,759 --> 00:25:34,480 came back, Hey, what's going on? The cat ball shot across the 344 00:25:34,559 --> 00:25:40,680 room. I went, oh, okay, so I suppose I got to 345 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,920 pick that up and put it back right, you know. So it's just 346 00:25:45,319 --> 00:25:52,279 it's just good. I'm assuming they're having if they're still here, they're probably 347 00:25:52,319 --> 00:25:56,960 still learning some stress on their challenge. I mean, you're just putting more 348 00:25:56,039 --> 00:26:00,519 in the you know, then they're gonna react to that. Well. And 349 00:26:00,599 --> 00:26:04,519 two when you're searching a residential and you go in there and you pissed these 350 00:26:04,799 --> 00:26:11,640 these entities and goes spirits off, and then you leave, well stuck. 351 00:26:11,799 --> 00:26:15,400 I tell people, I go, you know, if you walk in and 352 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,400 whatever, whatever you're representing, the people called you that night. So if 353 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:25,720 you if you're a jerk, now your face is glued to them because they 354 00:26:25,759 --> 00:26:29,200 called you in. But if you're nice, you know, they might say, 355 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,160 you know, they're just you know, maybe living francers. And when 356 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,119 we come back, there's a chance because I've done follow ups where we came 357 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:44,000 back and then we actually got a lady what was it? Oh, I 358 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,440 saw a bunch of New York Yankee stuff and her dad was a big Yankees 359 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,119 fan. So jokingly, I say, hey, how's the Mets this year? 360 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,680 You like the Mets? There was like no on the EVP, so 361 00:26:55,559 --> 00:26:57,400 I think it's just if you're there just to have a good time and just 362 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:02,319 find some answers and be respect full to them, you get a lot more 363 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:07,000 done. And it's like and it's always best for the client because you know, 364 00:27:07,079 --> 00:27:11,680 sometimes we found it where we find stuff that they're actually comfortable with. 365 00:27:11,839 --> 00:27:15,000 Oh the thing is dad, Yeah, okay, well it's not really bothered 366 00:27:15,079 --> 00:27:22,599 us. We just wanted to be sure. What about full body apparitions Is 367 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,279 that different from like a shadow person or yeah, they could. I mean 368 00:27:26,319 --> 00:27:30,359 full bodies. I mean, full bodies can be I've I've ever seen like 369 00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:36,720 a three D one like a person person standing there, but it could be 370 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:45,640 like a mist or something not as trans transparent, more opaque. But shadow 371 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,599 people, I mean you can if you see one. When you see one, 372 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:55,319 you'll know it because it's darker than dark that that silhouette will be sticking 373 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,200 out, it'll be coming out like out of the dark because it's just that 374 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:02,359 much difference in it. And I had a habit that I haven't been able 375 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:03,880 to break in twenty years. I have a good time with this. I'm 376 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:10,079 like I should always when I see a shadow person, take the picture then 377 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,200 goof with them. But I always see when I go, man, get 378 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,839 out of here, and then they then it's like I did a prison one 379 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:22,599 night, and in this it was a real prison. There were shooting towers 380 00:28:22,599 --> 00:28:26,279 and everything was abandoned, and they didn't have the big showers. They had 381 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,279 like four separate showers. And it was a full moon on New Moon that 382 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,119 night. So the steel mesh there was a light coming through it, and 383 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,640 I was doing EVPs, a custom EVPs. I went back and the light 384 00:28:38,759 --> 00:28:45,000 was gone because there was a shadow person sitting there. So I said me, 385 00:28:45,079 --> 00:28:47,759 pulled down a camera shooting a picture. I went, get out of 386 00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:51,000 here, man, and they then the light came back on. Damn. 387 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:56,279 I've done that a bunch of times where I should have just okay, now 388 00:28:56,319 --> 00:29:03,480 I'll tell you to leave. But there it's you know, you know, 389 00:29:03,519 --> 00:29:06,759 when you make that connection, then it's kind of fun because it's kind of 390 00:29:06,799 --> 00:29:08,519 like, you know, yeah, you have a little friend when you go 391 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,359 guys, I go back, I call the f man, Frank, Frank, 392 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,039 how you doing today, buddy? What's going on? Or I go 393 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,480 the old man at the house, Hey, you know how you feeling it? 394 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,559 You're still a little cranky? What's going on? Or the kids there's 395 00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:26,519 a kid in one of the train cards that I've gotten for years, so 396 00:29:26,559 --> 00:29:30,039 I'll say hi to him and things like that. But you know, if 397 00:29:30,079 --> 00:29:34,319 you respect them, you got to get more. And that's the whole idea 398 00:29:34,359 --> 00:29:40,319 to get answers for your clients or you know, if you have guests, 399 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:45,640 you know they want to experience something. Yeah, well see, and that's 400 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,880 the kind of that's the kind of attitude. I think mentally I have that 401 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,880 attitude. But I think if I was to do what it is that you 402 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,880 do and what Gina does and what your whole team does, I would be 403 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:04,960 just an awful attractor because I would have so much anxious energy about me because 404 00:30:06,359 --> 00:30:07,759 you know, but at the same time, I want to look at it 405 00:30:07,839 --> 00:30:11,720 like you look at it like it's it's fun, it's enjoyable. You know, 406 00:30:11,839 --> 00:30:17,640 you get to talk to you know, spirits. Then But I know 407 00:30:17,839 --> 00:30:21,880 once I go there, it's not going to be that way. It's you 408 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,440 know, I mean, right now, I'm doing an experiment. We're good, 409 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,680 We're starting to We're gonna start really hammering on it about asking questions that 410 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,400 Joe Joe Blow would won't ask, like what's it like things like that because 411 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,839 I think if when you start finding answers on a VPS, like where you 412 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:42,000 met by someone, where you met by because I get a lot of like 413 00:30:42,119 --> 00:30:47,200 do you see animal spirits, dogs and stuff like that? So where you 414 00:30:47,319 --> 00:30:49,200 met by your parents, where you met by your dog? You know, 415 00:30:51,039 --> 00:30:53,640 are you able to come back and forth? You know, are you here 416 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,359 because you're watching over someone? If we started asking questions and we got certain 417 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,000 answers, like then we can actually physically put out some stuff that This stuff 418 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,640 isn't really scary like the TV. It's just you're there just to see if 419 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,039 they want to make a contact and if they have a connect, if they 420 00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:15,839 have something for someone, like you're trying to be the in between for like 421 00:31:17,119 --> 00:31:19,400 mom over here was you know what? I did a house once where we 422 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:27,160 actually caught a head apparition on film, and when I went back, I 423 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:32,400 asked for a picture of dad, the grandpa the seven year old will see 424 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,839 in a shadow in her closing. It was scaring the full letter. They 425 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,880 were ready to sell the house. But once I took the picture back this 426 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,640 is back when it was on film, so it took like a week to 427 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,839 get stuff going. I said, can I see a picture of your dad, 428 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:53,440 and the head shape and the hairline match Grandpa and Grandpa. Dad and 429 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:59,240 Grandpa had fallen out. When the baby was born, Grandpa came back into 430 00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:00,920 life. He moved in, but they dropped it in the house of heart 431 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:07,960 attack. So once we figured out it's possibly probably grandpa, I told the 432 00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:13,039 little girl, like you do me favor, go to your closet and just 433 00:32:13,079 --> 00:32:15,240 I'll be right here with you. I just want you to say, Grandpa, 434 00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:17,000 I know you're here, Please stay out in my closet. You scare 435 00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:22,640 me. And that was twelve years ago and the girls going to college. 436 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,759 Now they still live in the house. They still see that. You still 437 00:32:25,799 --> 00:32:30,839 see the shadow lurking around the stairs when they're eating. But if you can 438 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:36,759 find out answers like that, then you've done some good, you know. 439 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,599 Or if you found electrically, you've saved some guy's house from a fire trap. 440 00:32:40,519 --> 00:32:43,799 So there's always ways to look at it that you're here just to do 441 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:49,279 some good. If you walk in with the attitude I'm here to you know, 442 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,759 get a click on my social you know, that doesn't help anybody. 443 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:59,799 Yeah, perception is always key. Yeah, it's it. If you walk 444 00:32:59,839 --> 00:33:04,160 in and I always tell people. When I teach this stuff, I say, 445 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,279 if you you got to be at least knowledgeable of your tools. You 446 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,839 have to be an expert, but you at least know how to turn on 447 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,960 or a melmeter or something like that, because the client's watching you if they 448 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,680 don't think you handled your equipment right, especially if you get no evidence, 449 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,839 you know, get any evidence, and you say, well, they didn't 450 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,440 look like they didn't know what the hell they were doing, So how can 451 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:31,160 I be sure? Yeah, but if you handle a nice professional investigation and 452 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:36,799 you handle your tools proficiently and all that, at least when you walk up 453 00:33:36,799 --> 00:33:39,559 to the client with the evidence, there's you've already kind of broken that barrier 454 00:33:39,559 --> 00:33:44,319 where they're going to trust what you've got, even if you didn't get nothing. 455 00:33:45,799 --> 00:33:47,160 And then again, you always have to. I always say you have 456 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:51,359 to follow up because you'd say, well, you get none, Yeah, 457 00:33:51,359 --> 00:33:57,400 we'll see you later. You know you're on your own. Yeah. Yeah. 458 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,240 I've asked this question of every ghost hunter that I've ever had on and 459 00:34:04,279 --> 00:34:07,559 I don't see any reason why I should stop. Now I'm going to ask 460 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:15,159 you, the only reason I don't do what you guys do is that fear 461 00:34:16,559 --> 00:34:22,679 of something latching on and me bringing it home with me, and it jumping 462 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:28,239 on to my kids or someone in the house, or just staying on me. 463 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:35,760 I'm scared to death of a possession of something latching on that I don't 464 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,079 want and bringing it home with me. Can you speak to that at all? 465 00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:44,360 Has that ever happened to you or anyone that you know? Well, 466 00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:49,679 I don't do the saging and all that. I just say simply, you 467 00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:52,440 can't come home and I can be welcome. Besides, we have an alpholme. 468 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:58,760 You'll be miserable, you know. But when I teach it to investigators, 469 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,239 I always say take care of yourself and your home, because if you 470 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:07,320 have a happy home, they won't come home, or even if they do, 471 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,079 they'll say, I don't want to be here. There's no negative here. 472 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:15,679 Because I had a partner years ago who we've escaped for a long time, 473 00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:17,519 and also he called me. He says, can you come to my 474 00:35:17,559 --> 00:35:21,159 house? Or what's wrong? Is I brought some home and it's been there. 475 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,079 But at that moment, at that time, they were having a lot 476 00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:29,559 of financial troubles and they were arguing all the time. I said, well, 477 00:35:29,559 --> 00:35:31,800 Billy, you're always raising hell. I mean, if I was in 478 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,280 negative thing, I'd want to want to stay in the house too, because 479 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,079 you can feed off of it. And once they got past their financial things, 480 00:35:38,119 --> 00:35:42,960 everything seemed to calm down. Yeah. So as long as I just 481 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,519 say listen, you can't come home and you're not gonna be welcome, I'll 482 00:35:45,519 --> 00:35:51,000 come see you next week and things like that. But you got to take 483 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,559 care of yourself, you know, try to go, don't go, you 484 00:35:53,599 --> 00:35:59,039 know, God, don't drink and do drugs and all that stuff. Going 485 00:35:59,079 --> 00:36:02,039 there with a good additude, dude, a good mindset up, posive mindset, 486 00:36:02,679 --> 00:36:06,639 and then try to keep your house happy, because that's where if they're 487 00:36:06,639 --> 00:36:08,480 gonna end up, that's where they end up. And even if they do 488 00:36:08,519 --> 00:36:13,440 show up, they're gonna be like this ain't for me, man. You 489 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,079 know then that you know, I don't want to be here. I want 490 00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:21,599 to be someone where they're going feed off some stuff. Yeah, well have 491 00:36:21,679 --> 00:36:25,599 they ever? Have you ever heard of any stories to where someone that didn't 492 00:36:25,639 --> 00:36:30,800 do that and actually brought something home with them? Yeah? I mean Bill, 493 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,639 he like for three months his house was like crazy. It was like 494 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:39,119 doors shut and closing and this whole time, and his wife we're just fighting 495 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:44,960 all the time. It's just like and we were still going down investigating and 496 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,599 he said, Tim, I brought something home and it's staying this time. 497 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:55,800 It's like, well, that's why. Actually I've had I think Gina has 498 00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:01,960 a story where something went home with her and from one night at the UH 499 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:07,079 at the New River, but it didn't stay long, not that I remember, 500 00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:09,079 but yeah, I've had it. I've had a couple of stores where 501 00:37:09,079 --> 00:37:12,599 people say, I mean, I've had people say, can you check my 502 00:37:12,639 --> 00:37:16,199 car? I think something's in my car with me, And but you know, 503 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,519 I get I've gotten stories where people say that you know, something's hold 504 00:37:20,559 --> 00:37:22,920 with me and I'll find out. I'll do a little you know, when 505 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:27,760 I do the preliminary. I found a family called me out because their son 506 00:37:28,119 --> 00:37:30,880 claimed that something came home with him. And he wasn't a ghost, art 507 00:37:31,079 --> 00:37:37,079 just something came home. And it turns out he was on psychments, which 508 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:43,159 you know, that's cool with me. Every everybody has needs SELP every now 509 00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:47,079 and then. But he was on these meds and he wasn't sleeping. So 510 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:51,960 sometimes if he takes psychments and don't sleep, it has a boomerang effect. 511 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,400 It'll mess up your head more so once we got him convinced to go take 512 00:37:55,440 --> 00:38:02,400 a nap. Uh, I called it family two days later and everything was 513 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:08,199 okay. It was just it just depends on one's mindset too, right. 514 00:38:08,199 --> 00:38:10,679 Well, and it's funny that well, I don't know. I don't know 515 00:38:10,679 --> 00:38:15,599 if that's funny or not. Because I have anxiety. I take medication for 516 00:38:15,639 --> 00:38:22,000 anxiety because I think the world's ending if I didn't. But I also have 517 00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:24,880 insomnia. I'll go to sleep at three am and get up before eight, 518 00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:29,760 and so, you know, and then I go throughout my day and I 519 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:36,519 just repeat that. But here, and it hasn't been recently knock on wood, 520 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:42,599 but I had heard, you know, you could pick up hitchhikers that 521 00:38:42,679 --> 00:38:46,000 follow you home, even if you go to antique stores. Yeah, there's 522 00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:52,119 things that attach themselves to those items. And so I haven't been back twenty 523 00:38:52,159 --> 00:38:53,960 antique stores since this happened. And I don't even think I've shared this with 524 00:38:54,000 --> 00:39:00,639 Wayne or my husband. But I was coming in the driveway and it was 525 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,000 like, and I have a new car now, well it's a year old, 526 00:39:04,039 --> 00:39:07,599 but it was like something kicked the back of my seat. I was 527 00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:12,800 alone in my car and it was enough force on the back of my seat 528 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,840 to like make me jolt. Yeah, so now I'm like, I don't 529 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:22,159 know, if you know, I don't really feel like I love antique stores 530 00:39:22,199 --> 00:39:29,559 anymore. I'm working on I created something called a HOB a hotted object box 531 00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:36,519 where it's made of only a crylic glass wood and then it see it with 532 00:39:36,679 --> 00:39:42,559 Faraday cloth because I've gotten so many calls for haunted objects over the years, 533 00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:46,440 but I see all this stuff like on TV they'll have someone'll have a doll 534 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:51,480 in a chair with a cameter next to it, and a cameter's going ballistic, 535 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:57,840 but you don't know if there's an electrical source setting that off. So 536 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:09,480 the reason I made this box was stay tuned for more paranormal odyssey. I 537 00:40:09,519 --> 00:40:14,719 wanted to seal that in with you know, like I'll put rampods in it 538 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:20,159 no means and then no EML frequencies can get in this box. So something 539 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,000 really goes off and it's coming from within the box. So I just I 540 00:40:24,119 --> 00:40:29,000 just started type, you know, working on the papers on that, and 541 00:40:29,039 --> 00:40:31,039 I did a lot of research on not you know, I've known a lot 542 00:40:31,079 --> 00:40:35,079 about hundred objects, but yeah, that's a big thing. Though, that 543 00:40:35,159 --> 00:40:38,480 people think they're bringing home stuff that is something attached to them. Yeah. 544 00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:43,760 Well, and you know, I was just thinking about all the times because 545 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:49,760 I love antique shopping. It's you know, they're really cool items. And 546 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,159 then I got into this business and I'm like, well, maybe it's not 547 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,800 that cool after all. It's not cool enough for me to take it home 548 00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:02,280 and have it lived with me. So because I've investigated a lady's antique store 549 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:07,079 a bunch of times, and she said she has tim ever since these shows, 550 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:13,920 business has kind of picked up, you know, because people want to 551 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:19,039 get that hearted object. But she said she's had some customers for years who 552 00:41:19,079 --> 00:41:23,239 won't come back because they're afraid of that. Now. Yes, so you 553 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:29,079 know I love old stuff too, antique stuff, but I've never even considered 554 00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:35,079 that. But yeah, that makes a lot of sense going into no this 555 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,039 place where the items are one hundred plus years old. I mean there might 556 00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:42,360 be some negative energy attached to some of that stuff. Yeah, because I 557 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,880 mean they're saying like a wedding dress might be attached. It might be a 558 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,840 good I mean, it might be there's actually a non wedding dress. I've 559 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,960 read the name of it, but it's it's because this girl fell in love 560 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,679 with this guy and dad didn't like them, so he couldn't come back. 561 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,800 But her wedding, her wedding dress is because of a bad experience. But 562 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:07,000 there's been others that've had wedding dresses that could be attached because it was it 563 00:42:07,079 --> 00:42:14,559 was their greatest day ever. And then there's like chairs, there's been none 564 00:42:14,599 --> 00:42:16,679 chairs have been done to be attached, you know, where you'll sit there 565 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:22,559 and you'll feel cold or anxious and things like that. So but that's the 566 00:42:22,639 --> 00:42:29,079 reason, because if I can get this thing confirmed and it really picks up 567 00:42:29,119 --> 00:42:31,519 some stuff, then I can take it to someone's house and they'll say, 568 00:42:31,559 --> 00:42:36,000 oh, you know, I think this doll's haunted. If you put the 569 00:42:36,039 --> 00:42:39,480 doll in there and nothing really happens and I've had it, I'm not going 570 00:42:39,559 --> 00:42:42,960 to do it like the first time. I say, oh, let's see, 571 00:42:43,039 --> 00:42:46,039 this is my box. And you know I'm not that egotistical. I'll 572 00:42:46,039 --> 00:42:50,920 say, look, i've worked this thing before, we've gotten responses, let's 573 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,920 try it now. If we all, we'll come back and bring it back 574 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,000 and try it again. But if we can get it going, at least 575 00:42:55,000 --> 00:43:00,280 I might ease some stress of someone thinking that this book they bought it on. 576 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,239 So if we put the book in there, run some tests on it 577 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,519 and see what happens, then we might say, listen, I don't think 578 00:43:06,519 --> 00:43:09,199 it's a book, you know. We didn't really get any reactions or something 579 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:15,840 like that. Have you ever had any run ins with depig boxes? No, 580 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:22,639 because those are a whole box and O. So I was just curious, 581 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:27,760 I mean, because but everybody talks about the Wigi boarder now, like 582 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,119 you know, I don't want to play Luigi board, you know, I 583 00:43:30,159 --> 00:43:34,599 go, well, every time you break out a mail meter or rimpod, 584 00:43:35,159 --> 00:43:38,320 it's a Wigi board because you're trying to make a contact, you know. 585 00:43:38,519 --> 00:43:42,760 But you know, we actually have a couple of Wigi boards on our team 586 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,920 that we do for and we try to run experiments on. But that's always 587 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:51,320 someone's fear I don't know Wigi board. Well, open your case. So 588 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,559 the investigators who't who don't like the Luigi board, But I'll say open your 589 00:43:54,559 --> 00:43:57,239 case and they'll open. I go, look, man, you got a 590 00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,280 rimpod, you got a mailmeter? You have then obulus m hm, it's 591 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,760 just a Wigi bord with batteries. Man, Yeah, I think we talked 592 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,840 to Gina about that. If I'm not mistaken, we had had we had 593 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:13,000 we had talked about that. How everything is. You know, if you 594 00:44:13,079 --> 00:44:19,199 do the human pendulum in the essence, that's you're the Ouiji board. Yeah, 595 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:24,679 you're just you're can using your energy to contact these fair or that's just 596 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:31,639 method. Are the conductor. Yes, I mean I've seen people who like 597 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:38,199 a portal box. They might they might put their hand on it and put 598 00:44:38,199 --> 00:44:44,559 their arm up like it's an antenna. So I go, now you are 599 00:44:44,559 --> 00:44:45,639 a part of it. You're like, oh, yeah, you're right, 600 00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:49,239 I go. Don't you know, if you're comfortable do it it, don't 601 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,519 stop. I'm just saying, you know, just know what you're you know, 602 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,960 yeah, what you're working with. You know, just you know, 603 00:44:55,079 --> 00:45:00,519 be aware that it's it's now, it's just dressed up different and it all 604 00:45:00,559 --> 00:45:06,079 has batteries and lights and you know. That was literally gonna be my next 605 00:45:06,119 --> 00:45:10,559 question, Tim, ask about Wigi boards if you had any experience with them. 606 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,199 I mean I've used them before and I've never had a bad experience with 607 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:20,159 them. But i mean, for me, everything we use now is a 608 00:45:20,199 --> 00:45:22,519 Wigi board. It's just you know, you just have to plug it in 609 00:45:22,559 --> 00:45:27,400 and charge it up before you Yeah, but the Wiji board has that kind 610 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:34,920 of that stigma that you know, you hear Ouiji board and you get scared, 611 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:39,119 or most people do. I know. That's why, sometimes, like 612 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:45,000 a new investigator, am I not even say anything about it because those tools, 613 00:45:45,039 --> 00:45:49,519 the electric tools, now, they don't have the stigma of the Ouiji 614 00:45:49,599 --> 00:45:52,880 board. But if you believe the Wigi board theory, then you got to 615 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:57,599 believe anything you use. That Sometimes I don't even bring it up because they'll 616 00:45:57,599 --> 00:46:01,599 be, oh my god, you're right. Yeah, So they don't have 617 00:46:01,639 --> 00:46:07,280 the stigma yet about it because it's all lights and noises. Now, all 618 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:12,320 right, Well, we've only got a few questions highlighted, so guys, 619 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,000 y'all have a few more minutes if you can think of any questions for Tim 620 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:22,800 to get those in, but we're gonna go ahead and jump to them. 621 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:30,599 The first one is from our boy Troy. Why are there almost always ghosts 622 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:36,480 near stairs? That's good you. I've seen a lot of apparitions on stairs. 623 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:42,199 There's been a lot of pictures of ghosts up stairs. It's yeah, 624 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:49,400 I mean sometimes usually when it's some of them, they're coming down like they 625 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,239 might be like in life. That's how they made their appearance, especially like 626 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:57,280 old because I've done a lot of places in like houses like Louise Annale over 627 00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:02,159 the South where the grand stairs, it might just be there. They're reliving 628 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:08,199 them making their appearance to the crowd, to the whoever's there. And then 629 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:13,679 I've had a lot of I've seen a lot of pictures, had some actual 630 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:19,079 I've caught some stuff where someone's sitting on the stairs. Especially there's a place 631 00:47:19,119 --> 00:47:24,079 in Tampa called the It's the first. It was a Cuban cigar factory, 632 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:30,360 and there's been pictures of the little girls sitting on the stairs like she's reading 633 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:35,159 or something. So it might just be a place where they relax, but 634 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:40,199 I think I think most times stairs are usually they're making That's how they appeared. 635 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:44,599 That's how they made their grand entrance when they were coming down something. 636 00:47:45,159 --> 00:47:50,719 And some of it too could be residual. Oh yeah, there's the normal 637 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,679 activity that they used to do. What about hallways, I friking hate hallways, 638 00:47:53,760 --> 00:48:00,320 man, They are always coming down hallways. It's We've had it. 639 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:05,480 One time we were doing a place and I've never had this before. It 640 00:48:05,519 --> 00:48:07,719 was a hall the buildings like one hundred years old. I was standing by 641 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:13,000 a door and we had a light at the end of the hall, and 642 00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:15,280 I looked at my shadow, and I see a little shadow next to me. 643 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:20,840 And I've never had it before because I didn't see the shadow when I 644 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,760 look down, but I looked the door, see the shadow standing. I 645 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:28,519 actually a little kid. Oh, you want to go out, So let's 646 00:48:28,559 --> 00:48:34,079 just open the door now. Always and hallways are usually like if you go 647 00:48:34,119 --> 00:48:37,239 to an older place, hallways kind of have that. They're always and the 648 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:42,239 old house is always smaller from what you're used to, so it has kind 649 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,840 of like a funhouse effect. Because we did a place Deer in this state 650 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:51,000 years ago. We used to do it and I would tell everybody, the 651 00:48:51,039 --> 00:48:53,480 guests, I say, walk down this hallway and it'll play head, it'll 652 00:48:53,519 --> 00:48:59,719 play games on your head because it's just shrunken. It's it's the illusion that 653 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,400 you're walk in then all of a sudden, it just shrinks because the hallways 654 00:49:01,519 --> 00:49:06,679 is smaller, but always always creepy because they're usually, especially in hotels, 655 00:49:06,679 --> 00:49:12,880 always very quiet and very long and very dark, and there's all doors that 656 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,199 something could just come out and get you, Yeah, that's always there. 657 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:24,199 Cool. Alex s asks do you think shadow people are a top of ghost 658 00:49:24,599 --> 00:49:31,440 or a ghost that doesn't have the energy or power to fully manifest? You 659 00:49:31,519 --> 00:49:37,079 know, the shadow of people I've seen when I tell them to leave, 660 00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:40,159 they schedoodle, so they got some energy. I think. I don't know 661 00:49:40,199 --> 00:49:47,519 if they've the energy to move around and scheduled, but they just don't full 662 00:49:47,559 --> 00:49:54,159 of maybe I think. Yeah. I tell people sometimes, you know, 663 00:49:54,800 --> 00:50:00,920 when we usually coming in a dream as you blow them, often they might 664 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:05,719 come to you like touch or something, And I tell people sometimes they just 665 00:50:06,159 --> 00:50:09,079 they just push the envelope of what they can do to get to be known. 666 00:50:09,559 --> 00:50:14,960 So maybe they can't manifest fully, but they're always around because they just 667 00:50:15,079 --> 00:50:19,239 they want to know. They want you to know they're there. So just 668 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,559 I mean the ones I've seen, hey, they're gone. They got the 669 00:50:22,679 --> 00:50:28,320 energy to move real quick. But maybe they don't have that full the manifest 670 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,559 or maybe they just don't want to go that far with it. Yeah, 671 00:50:34,199 --> 00:50:38,920 all right. Next question Ristol is asking Tim any experience with hat Man. 672 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:46,000 No, but I've not hat Man. But I do have a pretty cool 673 00:50:46,039 --> 00:50:49,159 pitch. I should have sent it to you. I'll send it to you. 674 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:58,400 It's naturally it's a full blown shadow man in a fully lit car in 675 00:50:58,519 --> 00:51:02,199 a railroad station. Wow, at the Railroad Museum. And it was taken 676 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:07,239 by a guest on her camera phone, so it was really cool. And 677 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:13,280 then I still see the same shoulder shape and all that he paces by the 678 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:19,079 bathrooms at this museum. I've never seen the shadow with a hat. I've 679 00:51:19,079 --> 00:51:22,840 always seen him like you know, they had the shoulders, sometimes the full 680 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:29,119 body like this one guy. But I've never seen the hat guy. All 681 00:51:29,199 --> 00:51:34,280 right, very cool, Tim, Tell everybody about your book or books and 682 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:39,519 where to get them and all of that. Guests off, it's ghost hunting 683 00:51:39,559 --> 00:51:45,559 getting started. Two. What I do with is a sequel. What I 684 00:51:45,599 --> 00:51:49,760 did with the books is I talk about how to build a team, how 685 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,320 to get started, how to find investigations, how to conduct them, review 686 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:59,039 evidence, and then I go through all the tools. You know, I 687 00:52:00,159 --> 00:52:01,639 dummy it down so much. I can tell you where to put the batteries, 688 00:52:01,639 --> 00:52:05,840 what kind of batteries they take, how to turn it on, what 689 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,639 all the lights and alerts mean. The only difference with the new book is 690 00:52:08,679 --> 00:52:15,079 I put three locations down here in South Florida. The history of the location, 691 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,840 the haunted history, and the activity I've gotten over the years, and 692 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,199 I only put three in because of these three places, they'll actually if you 693 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:28,159 go there and pay their little walking to her fee or whatever. And if 694 00:52:28,159 --> 00:52:30,719 you break out a recorder, they don't care. They're not going to tell 695 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,800 you put it away. So I've had hundreds of people over the years told 696 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,599 me, hey, I went back to Gold Coast, I cast some stuff 697 00:52:37,599 --> 00:52:42,239 on my recorder. They can self investigate. So the book is basically made 698 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,119 just so if you want to get starting ghost hunting. It just tells you 699 00:52:45,119 --> 00:52:47,800 how to get started. Some tips I've had over the years, like something 700 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:54,559 as simple as if you're the case manager calling for an invest calling to check 701 00:52:54,559 --> 00:53:00,679 on investigation. Check on the parking. Maybe there's not enough parking for all 702 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:05,760 your team. Just simple little tips just to get you going. And then 703 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,920 just tips on how to use the equipment and how to read a few others. 704 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:15,960 Okay, where do I get that book? Barnes Barnzoble dot com. 705 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:20,400 The other book, Getting Started one and is on Amazon. But that one 706 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,920 was just the tools. Basically, I didn't include the locations. Yeah, 707 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:27,480 you sent me the link, so I will put that in the show notes 708 00:53:27,519 --> 00:53:30,599 when this is released to podcasts. We had a couple of questions come in 709 00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:35,039 late, so since there were just a few, I want to get to 710 00:53:35,159 --> 00:53:39,880 those before we get out of here. Troy asks, what single piece of 711 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:47,079 equipment would you take into a cemetery. Well, I take I love rimpod's 712 00:53:47,119 --> 00:53:53,599 meters because you know you can put them around and get trigger. It'd be 713 00:53:53,679 --> 00:53:59,760 like a trigger toy. We do the cemetery down here we call the disco 714 00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:06,639 Miary. It's it's a Spanish it's like a Latin American cemetery where they it's 715 00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,559 up twenty four hours a day and people celebrate all the time. We've seen 716 00:54:08,559 --> 00:54:13,800 people out there at two or three in the morning having barbecues. But there's 717 00:54:14,119 --> 00:54:17,519 solar lights everywhere. It's really a cool place. If you drive by on 718 00:54:17,599 --> 00:54:22,920 the road, you'll see all these little flowers and everything, and there's a 719 00:54:22,119 --> 00:54:27,559 there's a kid section. So I'll take Boo Buddy with us, or we'll 720 00:54:27,599 --> 00:54:32,519 take this new thing called a trip light. It's like rim pods. Are 721 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:40,400 you know that that big circular thing that device the trip wire has actually thirteen 722 00:54:40,559 --> 00:54:47,280 rim pods on a string that they all work individually. Like these two lights 723 00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:52,480 might go off, but these won't, so there's something affecting this part of 724 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,760 the string. So I love taking that out because we'll lay it around a 725 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:59,280 cemit, around a plot and things like that and see when we get reactions. 726 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,199 And of course it depends on the area you. I love the do 727 00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:07,800 EVPs. I'm a I'm an audio recording nut yea and things like that. 728 00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:12,440 It just you know, we this cemetery, we have a few that's very 729 00:55:12,519 --> 00:55:15,800 quiet with from traffic, so you always have to take down and account But 730 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:23,039 I love doing recording, so recorded anywhere. Our last question comes from Bristol. 731 00:55:23,199 --> 00:55:27,800 He says, wait, wait, wait, last question. What is 732 00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:37,039 that to the left of the Saturn vibe. Oh that's my son's oh death 733 00:55:37,079 --> 00:55:44,440 start okay, my sudden builds legos. He's like he has them all over 734 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:49,639 the place. Very cool, All right, Tim, Great stuff, buddy, 735 00:55:50,079 --> 00:55:53,719 Awesome. We appreciate you taking the time to to come and hang out. 736 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:59,199 Like I said, we will take the audio from this episode, and 737 00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,400 we were released it to podcast. We have a much larger audience over there, 738 00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:07,400 so you'll reach more people over there. But yeah, we'll include the 739 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,199 link to your book and and all that stuff. I want to take this 740 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:15,599 opportunity to thank you very very much for coming you. Thank you so much, 741 00:56:15,639 --> 00:56:19,719 thank you for everything. Yes, and thank you for answering some of 742 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,079 my questions as well, because I mean, I'm so intrigued and so interested, 743 00:56:23,199 --> 00:56:30,400 but we'll take you out. I would love to, man, if 744 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:34,599 that offer stands one of these days, I love to get down there because 745 00:56:34,599 --> 00:56:38,480 there's places where I literally have the keys of the places that would be great. 746 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,360 Let you know, historical locations where I just give me a call and 747 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,880 say, hey, we're gonna come by and do some experiments and all well, 748 00:56:45,559 --> 00:56:51,079 when the show takes off and Tiffany and I become millionaires, we will 749 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:59,639 head down there and we'll set you up. We could do Cemeteries Trade Museum, 750 00:57:00,519 --> 00:57:05,519 the first in on the Fort Lauderdale River. We will do it all 751 00:57:05,599 --> 00:57:10,639 man, old school. So all right, buddy, hope you stay in 752 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:15,280 touch. Let us know if anything cool happens, and we'll get you back 753 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,800 on Okay, all right, buddy, thank you so much, have a 754 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:23,880 good night, Thank you, good bye. Bye. Hey guys, thanks 755 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:29,639 so very much for checking out this episode of Paranormal Odyssey. Love you guys 756 00:57:29,719 --> 00:57:34,199 so much. All the continued support. I want to ask everyone please take 757 00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:38,320 just a second go great and review the show wherever it is you get your 758 00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:43,840 podcasts. Also like to remind everyone about Paranormal Odyssey Live, which can be 759 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:50,519 found every Tuesday evening eight pm over on YouTube, as well as every other 760 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:57,719 Saturday Tiffany and I do and after our show at ten pm over on YouTube. 761 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,239 Guys, please go check that out that subscribe button if you are new 762 00:58:01,519 --> 00:58:06,320 over there, we would appreciate that so much. Also, guys, if 763 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:12,639 you would please head over and check out our website Paranormal World Productions dot com, 764 00:58:13,119 --> 00:58:17,519 we'll see you next time. Guys, they say you don't gotta go 765 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:29,320 home, but you can't stay. No, I don't want to be We're 766 00:58:29,360 --> 00:59:05,960 all out that job, Chid everything joy me to stay right You can't right 767 00:59:06,079 --> 01:00:13,559 away. The species bays and Games and Dames stays and basis, speis and 768 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:19,039 Thames resist used mass