1 00:00:01,679 --> 00:00:06,879 Hello, and welcome to side Quest. This is our weekly video game show 2 00:00:06,879 --> 00:00:11,039 here at Geek First. Today we're talking about all the Xbox Developer Direct for 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,560 twenty twenty four. I'm your host Til Muss, and have with me the 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,320 Destney Temple's last raider of the Doom Circle, Travis Snell. How's it going? 5 00:00:17,839 --> 00:00:20,039 Took good? Good good. It took me a while to figure out 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,480 how can I get every single Indiana Jones something from the subtitle in there? 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,960 Dasty Temple came in late because I couldn't figure out how to do those RIGI 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:28,960 which the other one, but I'm like, no, I thought that works. 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,960 There could be the great circle in there. I got circle, so 10 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,560 I took one. Okay, yeah, yeah, there's so many. I 11 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,759 couldn't get the entirety so and I had to take up my header because it 12 00:00:40,759 --> 00:00:43,039 wouldn't even let me have Traspy Snell. But yes, I am. I'm 13 00:00:43,079 --> 00:00:48,320 here where you talked about some some Xbox, some indie war specifically for myself. 14 00:00:48,359 --> 00:00:52,799 But I'm excited to be here and there is Indy. It's Taylor Field. 15 00:00:52,799 --> 00:00:57,119 How's it going? Jones? Jones? Thank you for having me, 16 00:00:57,479 --> 00:01:00,920 love it, love it. Yeah for the second year row you're here joining 17 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,079 me for this Xbox Developer director, which seems at this point like it's gonna 18 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:07,159 be maybe a yearly thing, a January or early February situation where they give 19 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,680 us kind of the breakdown of what we're gonna see for the rest of the 20 00:01:10,799 --> 00:01:14,280 year. So uh yeah, really, no no plugs for this. Just 21 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:19,439 make sure to hit up Patronice episodes early in ad free join our discord where 22 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,120 you know, whenever there's a show case like this going on, we're always 23 00:01:22,159 --> 00:01:26,680 talking in there about the announcements and the excitement in there, and uh yeah, 24 00:01:26,799 --> 00:01:27,920 Main Feed. There's all sorts of stuff, all sorts of Golden Geeks 25 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:34,640 things occurring right now, MCU DCUs Main Golden Geeks. I Travis. There's 26 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,239 a Travis Told You episode yesterday, so yeah, keep him busy on. 27 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:44,840 I swear I'd listened to a YouTube video that just came out. Am I 28 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,640 wrong about that? I think you are, unless I did it in my 29 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,599 sleep. But there is one coming out this week all about the oscars, 30 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,000 So check out out. I think maybe my YouTube algorithm put one at the 31 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,439 top of my page and I was like, oh, I should check this 32 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,280 out. There's some relevant news here. So I was listening to a bit 33 00:01:59,319 --> 00:02:00,640 of it. But figure out my secret. I have a time machine. 34 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:05,040 I already filmed the traft sold you on. You guys got my secret. 35 00:02:05,079 --> 00:02:07,200 That's how I do all this stuff. I got a time machine. You 36 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,639 know. Well there you go, uh yeah, all sorts of other stuff. 37 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,080 So with that, let's uh, let's talk about it. So, 38 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,919 like I said, this is the second year we've got this technically there, 39 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:20,120 this is the third one because they they called that Starfield Directed a developer direct 40 00:02:20,159 --> 00:02:23,360 as well, though it is only about one specific game rather than being about 41 00:02:23,599 --> 00:02:27,960 five games that we saw today, and I think it was four games last 42 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,639 year that they had as part of their thing. So just in terms of 43 00:02:30,759 --> 00:02:32,759 uh, I don't know, first impressions in that way, Taylor, now, 44 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,719 second year watching this this direct here, what did you think of this? 45 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,240 You like, like in the format? Any big changes since the last 46 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:45,919 one that you can remember. So I found that I think I was vocal 47 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,039 about this in the discord that I found the first half to be just kind 48 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:53,400 of like slow and a little bit boring. I was really hoping for a 49 00:02:53,439 --> 00:02:55,919 little bit more of like a pick me up. But I again I understand 50 00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:00,759 that this it's a developer direct so you get more of that behind the scenes, 51 00:03:00,759 --> 00:03:02,719 you get more of them covering a lot more in depth of point A 52 00:03:02,759 --> 00:03:06,319 to point B. They're talking about the music, we're talking about just the 53 00:03:06,319 --> 00:03:10,400 team that's been investing the time into the different mechanics of the games. So 54 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,439 it's always important to just put that in the back of your mind as you're 55 00:03:14,439 --> 00:03:16,599 watching this. I think people are maybe used to like that the vga's like 56 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,560 your E three's where it's just like one, two, three, four, 57 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,199 just going on going. Uh. It was cool to also get a little 58 00:03:23,199 --> 00:03:25,400 bit of like a couple of surprises in here. Well I guess just one 59 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:30,000 surprise really, but even that seemed to be kind of a disappointment when people 60 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:35,439 didn't seem to be thrilled with that game, which I'm sure we'll talk more 61 00:03:35,439 --> 00:03:38,280 about it, but overall, what started off to be kind of boring, 62 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,560 it definitely did pick up and I got more excited, especially when we got 63 00:03:42,599 --> 00:03:45,719 to like the back half and we got into like Indie, So I'm excited 64 00:03:45,719 --> 00:03:50,199 to talk about it. Drives. Did you watch the showcase last year's January 65 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,560 Drives? Oh? Oh lash, what can you dave me like a game 66 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:54,879 or two that was on there and that would job well. Hi Fi Rush 67 00:03:54,919 --> 00:04:00,520 was the big like shadow Drop they had Minecraft Legends in there Redfall, because 68 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,080 I remember hearing about the shadow Drops. That's how I know. I didn't 69 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,240 experience it live, and I know that game got some praise and whatnot, 70 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,680 so considered like a really fun thing. So no, I didn't watch that 71 00:04:09,719 --> 00:04:11,879 one last year. So okay, well, what do you think of the 72 00:04:12,159 --> 00:04:14,639 What do you think of the format of this Yeah, I just had to 73 00:04:14,759 --> 00:04:15,959 YouTube because I want to see how long it was, and it was forty 74 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,639 five minutes, which felt like I guess it seems about right. It felt 75 00:04:18,639 --> 00:04:21,439 like a little shorter. So I think that's a good thing. I think 76 00:04:21,519 --> 00:04:27,040 it's I think it's a pro and a con. I think overall it's good. 77 00:04:27,079 --> 00:04:29,600 I like the format of the show. I don't think I think they 78 00:04:29,639 --> 00:04:31,959 give each developer like pretty much the right amount of time. It's like India 79 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,399 the End got a little bit more. But that kind of makes sense because 80 00:04:34,399 --> 00:04:38,120 it's like one of their bigger games this year, if not like yeah, 81 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,759 i'd say next to Vow that's probably their biggest game that is public right now, 82 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,439 right maybe there's some like, oh, Gears of War we don't know 83 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,279 about or something like that, but yeah, so I think I liked it. 84 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,120 I think the only tough thing is they did the surprise sing what she'll 85 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:54,480 talk about. But it's tough that if I think you gotta watch that because 86 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,800 one you don't want everyone to expect each direct that might happen. And two 87 00:04:58,199 --> 00:05:02,319 it's stuff that you uld think you should save surprises for something that's more four 88 00:05:02,399 --> 00:05:06,319 quadrants for everybody where this felt like a very specific surprise. But I think 89 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,279 it is a good thing that they announced that hed, hey, these are 90 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,519 the four things we're talking about. These are games, is what to expect. 91 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,399 I think that's why maybe with last year they did something similar, and 92 00:05:15,399 --> 00:05:17,480 that's why I didn't really tune in because I wasn't feeling Red Faull and the 93 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,920 other stuff when there wasn't for me. So I think that is for a 94 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,360 viewership wise, it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't, 95 00:05:23,399 --> 00:05:26,319 because if you show these four and people aren't into them, then they go, 96 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,240 oh, well, what a disappointment. Where if you, you know, 97 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,160 announce them ahead of time, maybe people don't check it out. But 98 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,160 the people that are like it. So over all the show I liked it. 99 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:38,560 It didn't feel like a drag. I agree too, there is it's 100 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,600 tough because like there was parts that drag, but it was more so just 101 00:05:41,639 --> 00:05:43,839 because I know this is a game that's not for me at all, right, 102 00:05:43,879 --> 00:05:46,639 And that's what we talked about before, where we've seen great conferences, 103 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,240 but you still got to feed everybody, or feed people that are in our 104 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,800 audience. So it's like when four as it gets out there or something like 105 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:56,000 that, go Okay, this is for somebody, it's just not for us. 106 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,839 That's why when I take out okay, what I actually want to see 107 00:05:58,879 --> 00:06:00,560 the game wise is the actual developing the show. I like that. It's 108 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,920 a good mix of quickness and hearing from the devs, and I don't think 109 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:08,519 anything really overstated. It's welcome, maybe other than the surprise. To be 110 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,279 honest, I thought that was a little too long. But no, I 111 00:06:11,959 --> 00:06:14,000 like this one. I think it's a good way of doing it. It's 112 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:18,360 closer to Nintendo Direct. It doesn't have like the charm that Nintendo Drek has. 113 00:06:18,399 --> 00:06:21,720 It's a much more official one. But yeah, which state of play 114 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:27,079 feels like that's more announcements announcement eregal but they usually have a bit more there, 115 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,079 so overall it's like a thumbs up for me, but it's not one 116 00:06:30,079 --> 00:06:34,199 I would be remembering if Indy wasn't there, just because the pacing is very 117 00:06:34,319 --> 00:06:40,600 kind of basic game developer, rinse and repeat. So definitely, yeah, 118 00:06:40,759 --> 00:06:44,519 I continue to like this format because I like the deep dives into these games, 119 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,879 and I think for the most part, between this year and last year, 120 00:06:46,879 --> 00:06:48,480 I think they do a good job of they you know, they announced 121 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,959 the games that they're going to be talking about prior to or at least they 122 00:06:50,959 --> 00:06:57,319 announced the studio like they did last year with the Ifi Rush Studio, and 123 00:06:57,319 --> 00:07:00,279 and I feel like for those games, I always get all the answers I 124 00:07:00,319 --> 00:07:03,399 possibly want, And I think there was a couple there was a couple of 125 00:07:03,399 --> 00:07:05,639 things with this one where I think that actually kind of went against that with 126 00:07:05,759 --> 00:07:10,079 specifically Avowed and Visions of Mona, which we'll of course get into all these 127 00:07:10,079 --> 00:07:14,199 games. So I think they maybe dropped the ball slightly in a couple of 128 00:07:14,199 --> 00:07:16,720 those ways. But then I think they really nailed it on the Showcase of 129 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,439 Jones and hell Blait. I mean, I think all anyone wanted was a 130 00:07:21,519 --> 00:07:25,600 release date at this point, and we got that, and then I think 131 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,560 Ara was kind of a surprise. I didn't really know much about that game, 132 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,800 and they showed me everything I could possibly want to know about it, 133 00:07:30,839 --> 00:07:32,839 and now I'm like very excited about it. So I think in that way 134 00:07:32,839 --> 00:07:35,519 it was pretty successful. And I hope they do more of this. And 135 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:40,680 I'm curious what other kind of games will get that Starfield treatment of getting the 136 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,839 forty minute direct just for themselves. I mean, forty minutes is a lot, 137 00:07:43,839 --> 00:07:46,560 but even if they just do a twenty or twenty five minute one for 138 00:07:46,639 --> 00:07:48,839 some of these other games, I'm trying to picture a game that's of such 139 00:07:48,839 --> 00:07:51,959 a big scale that they could really talk for that long about it. I 140 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,399 don't know which. I don't think any of them really have that hype level 141 00:07:55,439 --> 00:07:57,920 currently. I think they're all like far out those ones, right, Like 142 00:07:57,959 --> 00:08:00,480 that'd be an Elder Scrolls, that'd be like a fabe. Yeah, the 143 00:08:00,519 --> 00:08:05,199 games that we have no kind of like touching. That's that's a good show 144 00:08:05,199 --> 00:08:07,639 out. Obviously that game is still like very far away, it seems like, 145 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,879 but I think that could be one that would get its own uh like 146 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,279 maybe it has like a quicker one here, a five ten minute thing, 147 00:08:13,319 --> 00:08:16,439 and then later on in the air three months later or something, do a 148 00:08:16,439 --> 00:08:18,920 bigger drop where you get kind of the full vertical slice of it rather than 149 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,360 just maybe that that first gameplay showcase. Yeah, can I ask you, 150 00:08:24,439 --> 00:08:28,000 because I don't know what I'm trying to look up when it was revealed. 151 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,000 How come every time we talk about Fable, you're always like, oh, 152 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,799 it's very far away. When did I Why did I feel like it was 153 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,480 like two years ago? Am I wrong? Was it very recently got there? 154 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,240 It might have been announced three years ago at this point, I mean 155 00:08:41,279 --> 00:08:43,320 still though we've seen it twice, because there was that initial teaser trailer with 156 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,720 like the frog getting the ferry. Yeah, and then just like the title 157 00:08:46,759 --> 00:08:50,279 card, and then there there was another trailer. I guess it was last 158 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,240 summer at Summer Game Fest. It was I see that, yeah, yeah, 159 00:08:52,279 --> 00:08:58,039 and even when they got revealed February. So that's the reason it's one 160 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:03,360 I've seen July twenty twenty that was official announced. Oh wow, jeez. 161 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,919 Yeah, it's always would for that teaser because then I feel like it was 162 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,120 a couple of years of nothing and I don't know that summers. The reason 163 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:15,240 I don't think it's close is a couple of reasons. One is the Summer 164 00:09:15,399 --> 00:09:18,720 game Fest thing we had last year, Like, there wasn't gameplay in there. 165 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,399 Now some people argue there is, but when I watch that, and 166 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,840 I've watched it multiple times like that, it's not gameplay to me, like 167 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:28,080 that, that is a couple that's a couple of cinematics that look like they're 168 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,559 trying to seem like gameplay, but to me, it's not proof of that. 169 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,080 And then we've just heard a lot of like shuffling behind the scenes of 170 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:39,240 like creative directors leaving, writers leaving that. I feel like there's been a 171 00:09:39,279 --> 00:09:43,360 ton of turnover and change, which makes sense because That's studio has made only 172 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,519 racing games for like one hundred years, so it makes sense that you're trying 173 00:09:46,519 --> 00:09:50,360 to bring in some new people, maybe some other people who aren't interested in 174 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,240 making a game like this. So those are kind of the reasons why I 175 00:09:52,279 --> 00:09:56,559 think it's further away. You know, maybe maybe late twenty twenty five or 176 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:01,080 twenty twenty six, but that's kind of where I guess twenty twenty six would 177 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:05,039 be like a safe prediction for me, So it feels that feels far away 178 00:10:05,039 --> 00:10:09,279 still, but it's just crazy to hear like practically a four year old announcement, 179 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,080 and every time you talk about you're like, oh, it's so far 180 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,120 away, and I just like in my mind, like that doesn't make sense 181 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,240 at all. But well, I mean think about right, like the Elder 182 00:10:15,279 --> 00:10:18,360 Scrolls six announcement was before Fable, and that's like we're probably not even gonna 183 00:10:18,399 --> 00:10:22,360 hear about that for another at least two or three years before we even get 184 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,240 like the first inkling of any sort of information. But who knows how Xbox 185 00:10:26,279 --> 00:10:30,039 is gonna roll that out compared to Bethesda. But we should get into this 186 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,279 showcase here though I've always done let us know anything Fables coming a little think 187 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,440 that's in the video game discord. Let us know we're gonna go out of 188 00:10:37,519 --> 00:10:39,720 order here. They save this for the end, which I think was the 189 00:10:39,759 --> 00:10:41,600 right move because it is the big hype one. It's the one that I 190 00:10:41,639 --> 00:10:46,200 think most people were tuning in for Indiana Jones and the Great Circle. So 191 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,919 we're gonna start here. This is announced for twenty twenty four. No window, 192 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,960 but just that other than you know, the yearly window, I suppose 193 00:10:52,879 --> 00:10:58,519 this is the first we've seen or got really any meaningful info about this game. 194 00:10:58,639 --> 00:11:01,120 So, uh, Taylor, one of you first like, what did 195 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,600 you think about this? We got like, I don't know, ten minutes 196 00:11:03,639 --> 00:11:07,519 of gameplay mixed with some a bunch of info from developers, and then there's 197 00:11:07,519 --> 00:11:11,080 been more info on articles and stuff posted since then. So, yeah, 198 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,840 what are you thinking of Indie so far? Yeah? This was This was 199 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:18,840 definitely the highlight I was. I was super excited. I was not expecting 200 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,679 the first person view. That was definitely the big kicker for me, and 201 00:11:22,759 --> 00:11:28,720 so I was I'm understanding it because I've seen some people talk about how they 202 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,000 didn't want to go with that uncharted vibe and just make it kind of I 203 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,440 guess me like a copy of that to a degree, And when you put 204 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,919 this game in the third person, I could very much see how it it 205 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,480 would fit that vibe of being uncharted. But I like the idea of using 206 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,960 the whip in first person. I like the idea of just being able to 207 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,120 do all these puzzles and they just explore it in this field of view. 208 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:50,039 So that's definitely a huge highlight for me. I'm not a fan of the 209 00:11:50,039 --> 00:11:54,159 title. I don't know why they rock the Great Circle. Yeah, I'm 210 00:11:54,159 --> 00:11:58,120 not a fan of that. You describe why you don't like it. I 211 00:11:58,159 --> 00:12:03,320 just think it's very Uh, it's too simple when I think, like Dial 212 00:12:03,399 --> 00:12:09,879 Destiny right now, I was playing with it in my mind, like what's 213 00:12:09,919 --> 00:12:13,919 another like good idea they could do, like uh, like Earth's axis or 214 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:20,480 like the Earth's I don't know, something something that yeah, maybe or Earth 215 00:12:20,519 --> 00:12:24,000 they could keep in workshop or get access out of there. I feel like 216 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,759 it's like we talked about a couple of years ago when they did reveal Dial 217 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:31,559 Destiny. I just think Indiana Jones and James Bonds are two franchises where you 218 00:12:31,639 --> 00:12:33,080 just like the name of you don't and it's just like a vibe. It's 219 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,840 just something where it's just like, oh yeah, you can't really describe. 220 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,639 There's certain times where it's like insidious the Devil made me do it, Like 221 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,000 that's obviously a bad title, but for something like Great Circle, like I 222 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,720 I because that's in one way that I just feel like, I don't know 223 00:12:46,759 --> 00:12:48,840 if I feel like I'm out of touch or something, but I just feel 224 00:12:48,879 --> 00:12:52,799 like many people saying the titles ship people are so mad about the first person, 225 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,360 and I just don't get I don't get it at all, and I 226 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,799 don't I don't know. I haven't heard like a compelling arguments. That's why 227 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,440 I wanted to see you had one. But I know with something like that, 228 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,720 it is strictly vibes. I want to ask you, just quick ten 229 00:13:03,799 --> 00:13:09,840 second of dendum, how do you feel about the Conjuring last rights doing that? 230 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,840 Is that a new title of that's the next one? Yeah, I 231 00:13:11,879 --> 00:13:15,519 just want to know. Don't see any calling anything. The last is a 232 00:13:15,519 --> 00:13:18,679 bit generic at this point. I do like I do like rights. It's 233 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,240 the rights that what we're what version of that R I t e s. 234 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,519 So it's like a yeah, it's got to be. It's got to be. 235 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,120 I think it's fine. It's a little it's a little generic, but 236 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,080 I think that's okay. I think it's a good title. Like I'm not 237 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,840 gonna I'm not mad about it. That's it. I was just curious because 238 00:13:33,879 --> 00:13:35,919 I know, damn the Conjuring one, So I just want to know. 239 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:39,279 So I hadn't heard about that title. That's a fresh one. I mean 240 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,679 yeah, as far as my only con really being just the name of this 241 00:13:41,759 --> 00:13:46,080 game, it's not gonna knock points off for me where it takes place that 242 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:50,440 has me super excited. I love that we're going in between the two films. 243 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,480 I love that it's it's a Cannon story. And just seeing familiar faces 244 00:13:54,519 --> 00:13:58,519 like Marcus and and everyone just pop it in there was really just it was 245 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:03,919 so wonderful to just see how intensive they were to this world and they really 246 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:09,360 want to trying to dive into that. So I guess like them bringing in 247 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:13,480 like the the Nazis and whatnot is just like classic Indiana Jones. I feel 248 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,440 like they're just gonna, Yeah, they're gonna hit a lot of things right 249 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,480 on the nose that people are familiar with. I think that's that's wonderful, 250 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:26,159 and I hope that this game does a good job at bringing in new fans 251 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,320 that maybe haven't seen Indiana Jones or they've watched Style of Destiny, but like 252 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,200 I don't, I don't know much about this character, and they don't necessarily 253 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:35,360 want to go back and watch the originals. Just the game is another medium 254 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,320 that can really have bold strategy. Yeah, it's just another format that can 255 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,279 bring in new new fans, new fandoms and and and players and whatnot. 256 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:48,720 But I said that it reminds me of like an Uncharted meets far Cry because 257 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,240 of just how interactive the world seems with what you're doing, and I want 258 00:14:52,279 --> 00:14:56,000 to know how far that really extends, Like how much of the world are 259 00:14:56,039 --> 00:15:00,080 you interacting with and what what are you Like are you limited to, like 260 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,039 you're in an area where you have to unlock this door, for example, 261 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,720 are you limited to just being able to pick up this one thing associated with 262 00:15:07,799 --> 00:15:11,120 unlocking this door? Or can you just be collecting things over time and like 263 00:15:11,159 --> 00:15:13,480 apply them to different scenarios. I guess that's what I want to know more 264 00:15:13,519 --> 00:15:20,799 about, because we didn't get anything further than just what that basic showcase should 265 00:15:20,919 --> 00:15:24,559 like displayed for us, right, Yeah, I mean that's We've got like 266 00:15:24,679 --> 00:15:28,799 a couple more slight details and articles, but nothing about like level design or 267 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,159 anything like that. But that is that definitely one of my bigger questions. 268 00:15:31,159 --> 00:15:33,519 I want to ask you guys about that too, in terms of just what 269 00:15:33,639 --> 00:15:37,559 is the structure of this game, so we can talk about that later. 270 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,559 There's definitely a lot of questions, but I think they did a good job 271 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:45,600 of providing more answers than I got questions out of the out of the showcase, 272 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:50,919 which other games I maybe that is not the case for So, yeah, 273 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,519 is that your peace, Taylor, any any other I mean thought in 274 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,000 closing, I I hope that it comes out this year. This is definitely 275 00:15:58,279 --> 00:16:00,559 like a day one for me. I want to be immersed in this and 276 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:07,559 I feel like if it does anything like feeling like you're in a movie, 277 00:16:07,279 --> 00:16:10,960 I mean, I'm just I'm there. It just it looks like such a 278 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:15,559 fun time. So nice. Yeah, so I should mention this as well 279 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,320 that if you want to hear our thoughts on the Indiana Jones movie, Boy, 280 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,840 do I have a retrospective view? Last year, in preparation for Dial 281 00:16:22,919 --> 00:16:26,360 Destiny, we went back into retro for all of the movies, so all 282 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,159 that's available in the feeding and search that. But yeah, Travis, what 283 00:16:29,159 --> 00:16:33,039 are you thinking about Indy? Yeah? I think what you said your last 284 00:16:33,039 --> 00:16:34,879 point doing where how much they're revealed is what I was happy with because I 285 00:16:34,919 --> 00:16:38,600 knew we were getting to see someone and I think we the idea of like 286 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:44,360 first person versus third somehow plays the PLoud and everything. I kind of hadea, 287 00:16:44,399 --> 00:16:45,360 Okay, we get that, but I had in my mind we could 288 00:16:45,399 --> 00:16:48,039 get half of what we end up getting. So I was very happy with 289 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:52,000 what we got because it could have been easily. We need something big for 290 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,639 the direct show that and then we could get the coming twenty twenty five right. 291 00:16:55,679 --> 00:16:57,720 I was actually fully prepared even if it's early, and it still could 292 00:16:57,759 --> 00:17:00,519 be right because right now it's fault through the than twenty four, so things 293 00:17:00,559 --> 00:17:03,960 happen. But I feel I don't know why I did draft it's so maybe 294 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,359 that's why I'm just putting out of the universe. I feel confident it's gonna 295 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,559 hit this year, just because we've talked about this before, where of course 296 00:17:10,599 --> 00:17:14,079 summer things will come, but there's a lot of open slats, and I 297 00:17:14,079 --> 00:17:15,359 think this is a great year for this game to come up, because next 298 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:19,359 year, just like movies like twenty twenty five is just like stacked loading up 299 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,880 right, It's like, oh, just even Grand Theft aut all alone, 300 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,200 It's like, do you really want to be coming out around that same time? 301 00:17:25,319 --> 00:17:27,119 So I think it has a good from what I saw, it has 302 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:32,720 a really good possibility to be the equivalent of what Spider Man was for you 303 00:17:32,759 --> 00:17:36,480 know, the game to the combook character. Same thing from the game for 304 00:17:36,599 --> 00:17:38,680 Andy to the movies. I know that's been like a big debate, and 305 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,160 it's so funny that you know how much has changed in the podcast. I'm 306 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:45,680 somebody that's on the side of not necessarily on the side of first person, 307 00:17:45,799 --> 00:17:48,319 but I'm fine with it here, Like I could see a case for either 308 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:52,480 one. I didn't think it was gonna be third just because the history of 309 00:17:52,519 --> 00:17:56,079 the company, you know, like I never I never really questioned that. 310 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:57,559 I just kind of assumed, like that's what's gonna be. Even the first 311 00:17:57,559 --> 00:18:02,119 teaser was like kind from a perst person perspective, right, it was the 312 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,720 map and the compass. Then when he grabs the way, like so I 313 00:18:04,759 --> 00:18:07,799 didn't mind that, and I liked what I saw for the majority of the 314 00:18:07,799 --> 00:18:11,960 part. I was actually I know they had to partner with Lucasfilm everything, 315 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,240 but I wasn't one hundred percent of convinced it was gonna be Indiana Jones' face 316 00:18:15,319 --> 00:18:18,480 or Indiana Jones Harrison Ford's face. I know it's not his voice, but 317 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,920 I didn't think I had to go that route. Same way as like, 318 00:18:22,079 --> 00:18:25,440 uh, who's the hit Man? People that are making the Bond game right 319 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,319 now? It's interactive, right, Yeah, same thing as like they just 320 00:18:27,319 --> 00:18:30,960 said, hey, it's a new Bond, new actor, Like, it's 321 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,240 not anything tied. I thought they easily could have done that. I've just 322 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,359 taken India as a character and done that. So that's kind of like a 323 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:40,640 fun bonus. And that's when I love playing characters from the the like the 324 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:44,880 third perspective. But if you're getting the cut scenes with Harrison Ford's face, 325 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,400 like that kind of scratches that itch for me in a way. Right, 326 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,640 So, overall, what I saw I liked. I think I'm hoping the 327 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:55,839 puzzle stuff is really good. I'm hoping it's not just like Level or Lego 328 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,079 material, where like Lego has puzzles, but it's like they're also made for 329 00:18:59,079 --> 00:19:00,440 like eight year old kids to solve, right, Like I would like some 330 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,039 sort of thinking. I would like, Hey, I am stuck here, 331 00:19:03,519 --> 00:19:07,160 what do I do? So I hope it's not just like a oh, 332 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:08,599 whip this rocked into this hole, you know. I hope there's a little 333 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,160 bit of that. And the combat, too, is the only thing I 334 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,640 want to see a bit more of because there's at times it looked like, 335 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,440 I don't want to say clunky, but just a little slow, and I 336 00:19:18,559 --> 00:19:22,720 just That's why I'm hoping the exploration and the puzzles really good, because the 337 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:27,759 combat didn't look great enough where it's like I could find myself getting I don't 338 00:19:27,759 --> 00:19:32,960 want to say bored, but just kind of maybe on purpose avoiding battles because 339 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:37,240 the action looked like the least interesting thing to me in this one. It 340 00:19:37,279 --> 00:19:38,799 was just a lot of punching. You have the gun, so maybe in 341 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:44,000 game it'll feel better, but just kind of felt almost like a like Scandy 342 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:45,920 Arcadie of just like moving around. The whip did look good, though, 343 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,200 so I give them that that maybe that will be the go to I'll just 344 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:52,039 want to whip. So overall I think it looks good, but I think 345 00:19:52,079 --> 00:19:53,400 it's the brahma like I said, where we always talk about the Spider Man 346 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,200 games that they're always great, but they're never gonna get to like Game the 347 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:00,799 Year level. That's what I'm expecting from this is a great Jones experience. 348 00:20:00,839 --> 00:20:03,160 I think we could talk about it maybe be my third Game of the Year. 349 00:20:03,319 --> 00:20:04,319 But I'm also not going in there thinking, oh, they're going to 350 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,880 reinvent the wheel and we're gonna be talking then this game Award of Year or 351 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:12,000 Game of the year awards come, you know, next December or this December. 352 00:20:12,039 --> 00:20:15,440 I guess. So I liked it. There's also a day one. 353 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,400 For me, it was usually gonna be Day one unless it just looked awful. 354 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,839 And I don't. I don't think it looks awful. I'm happy with 355 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,920 what we got. So no, I mean I for me, I was 356 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,680 always known it was a game pass. I'm like, oh, of course 357 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,920 I'll jump in there no matter what. Day one. All right, yeah, 358 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,119 game pass, baby, it just saves me a bunch of money. 359 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:36,319 I forgot about that, it really does. H Yeah. I I thought 360 00:20:36,319 --> 00:20:37,960 it was a really good showing for the game. They, like I mentioned 361 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,519 earlier, like they answered all my questions. I think they really showed a 362 00:20:41,519 --> 00:20:45,839 good amount of what the puzzles are gonna be, like, what the levels 363 00:20:45,839 --> 00:20:48,039 to an extent they are gonna be, like the combat, seeing all that 364 00:20:48,039 --> 00:20:52,599 stuff, answering most of the major questions. So I was and I think 365 00:20:52,599 --> 00:20:53,920 it will be a fun game for me. I think it's it's the kind 366 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,519 of mix of gameplay that I really like. You know, they use that 367 00:20:56,519 --> 00:21:00,640 classic verbiage of like play your way, you can steal through the encounters, 368 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,160 or you can you know, go in Guns of Blaze, and that's just 369 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,480 like every Arcane game is designed with that eight those So I really like that 370 00:21:06,519 --> 00:21:08,759 this is gonna be like that Machine games. You know, in terms of 371 00:21:08,799 --> 00:21:11,480 a company is such a not a wildcover for me. I just have not 372 00:21:11,559 --> 00:21:15,839 played any of their games prior to this, so I don't really have the 373 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,160 four knowledge going in. But you know, the three of us have talked 374 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,000 and it sounds like we might be doing a one off retrospective episode for one 375 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,240 of their prior Wolfenstein games to kind of lead into this. So I'm very 376 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,720 excited to jump in and see how those games feel in the gameplay and the 377 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,319 combat and if that stuff's great, which from everything I've heard it is great, 378 00:21:33,519 --> 00:21:37,319 I'm sure that will carry over here. And so that's why I really 379 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,799 like the first person and to me, that kind of tells you a little 380 00:21:40,839 --> 00:21:42,519 bit more about what kind of combat system it's gonna be. It seems like 381 00:21:42,559 --> 00:21:48,200 it is gonna be more about using your wits or using the whip doing silly 382 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,720 things, goofy things, over the top things, rather than it being like 383 00:21:51,759 --> 00:21:55,640 a cover shooter. And I don't really want a third person cover shooter right 384 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,480 now. I'm just not relating to those things like an arn charter that just 385 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,160 bores the hell out of me. So to me, that's like a good. 386 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,759 That's a good, like there are games that are a third person that 387 00:22:03,799 --> 00:22:06,640 have guns that I do enjoy. I'm not making a blanket statement in that 388 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,079 way, but I think for all the of course, Uncharted is like based 389 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:14,039 off Indiana Jones. Now talking about a game of Indiana Jones being based off 390 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:18,559 Uncharted. I definitely wanted to take things from Uncharted, like big set pieces 391 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,400 and a focus on story, but I didn't really want them to bring over 392 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,880 just like the covered shooter gameplay of it, and so I feel like just 393 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:30,359 going a first person perspective is gonna help facilitate that as well. So I 394 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,319 would say I'm pretty excited for this. One thing that maybe didn't blow me 395 00:22:33,319 --> 00:22:37,440 away was the visual quality. It just didn't look like a three sixty game. 396 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:38,839 But it definitely looked like an Xbox one game or like a PS four 397 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:41,880 era game, which is not the end of the world. I think it 398 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,640 looks totally fine. Hopefully it has a good frame rate because of that. 399 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,720 If it's thirty and it looks like this, I'll be a little salty. 400 00:22:47,799 --> 00:22:51,279 But if it hits sixty with this, then I'm sure I'll be pretty happy 401 00:22:51,279 --> 00:22:52,960 with it. And I'm sure to look a lot better on the four K 402 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:57,000 TV than like my monitor that I was watching it on. So, talking 403 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,559 more specifically about some of this stuff. So Taylor, you're talking about the 404 00:23:00,559 --> 00:23:03,839 puzzles or I guess you both of you talked about the puzzles a bit. 405 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:08,680 I really liked what they said that there are going to be optional puzzles and 406 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,799 then there's like, you know, mandatory puzzles as part of going through the 407 00:23:12,839 --> 00:23:15,680 main story, and the optional puzzles, the bonus ones you can do, 408 00:23:15,839 --> 00:23:18,920 those are gonna be like the much harder, much more challenging ones, ones 409 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,720 that could really stump you. I think that's that's an amazing idea, because 410 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,119 in a game like this, I think that can sometimes get in the way. 411 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,799 And then you go the whole opposite direction of making the puzzles so brain 412 00:23:30,839 --> 00:23:33,759 dead easy that they're not even worth doing, Like God of War got a 413 00:23:33,839 --> 00:23:36,119 lot of criticism for that, and I would agree it's like, take all 414 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:37,559 these puzzles out because they suck, but they don't want to make them too 415 00:23:37,559 --> 00:23:41,440 hard because they don't want people to get stuck in God of War like doing 416 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,079 this freaking block puzzle, you know, so it makes sense, and to 417 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,359 me, like the solution that was was Steve Sarr's last year where it had 418 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,079 a ton of bonus, optional hidden puzzles that are off the main path that 419 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,400 you can do post game and stuff like that, and that's where the most 420 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,720 those the best, most interesting, and most difficult puzzles were. That was 421 00:23:56,759 --> 00:23:59,160 fantastic because it was all optional, so you could just go there when you're 422 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,000 ready and if one was true, then go do something else and come back 423 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,920 to it later, and it's not preventing you from being in the game. 424 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:07,000 So to me, that seems seems great. So far, we haven't really 425 00:24:07,039 --> 00:24:11,839 seen much like picking up items and putting them in slots and turning dials and 426 00:24:11,839 --> 00:24:15,680 stuff. But I just think being in these really cool ancient ruins and crips 427 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,559 and things like that is gonna make for some a really fun setting, and 428 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,400 to me, I think the first person setting is really good for that as 429 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,680 well. I think puzzle games in first person work really really well, and 430 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,880 there's a ton of examples of that. So I'm looking forward to the puzzle 431 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:32,240 element of this game more than other Triple A games right now, that seem 432 00:24:32,279 --> 00:24:34,359 to put them in there as a necessity rather than because they actually want to. 433 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,279 But it's so important to the character of Indie, right. Yeah, 434 00:24:37,279 --> 00:24:40,920 I liked like what you said with the optional because there is gonna be people 435 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:45,839 that just like Indy and that might be one of the four games they buy 436 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,599 that year, right and they might want want they might not want to do 437 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,559 the whole I'm stuck here for half an hour trying to figure out things, 438 00:24:52,599 --> 00:24:55,680 especially if they like the story, if they you know, it's Harrison Ford 439 00:24:55,839 --> 00:24:57,480 in a sense. So I do like that. Now. I hope that 440 00:24:57,519 --> 00:25:00,279 they kind of back it up because I do want them to be hard. 441 00:25:00,319 --> 00:25:03,799 I hope it's not just like I said, it's like the story ones are 442 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,759 literally move one rock and you're done. Because that's one thing we talked about 443 00:25:07,799 --> 00:25:11,559 in the Indian Jones retro. That's most of our favorite parts of the maybe, 444 00:25:11,559 --> 00:25:15,000 you know, seeing Indy and Harrison react and act to some things is 445 00:25:15,279 --> 00:25:18,680 those most like That's probably still my favorite scene is the very first opening of 446 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,119 Ray's Lost Dark. It's just, you know, you got the ball everything, 447 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,319 so it's like it's a different medium, because of course it's gonna be 448 00:25:26,319 --> 00:25:29,759 first person, but I think you can still put Indie through similar events like 449 00:25:29,799 --> 00:25:32,200 that, and if you're seeing it through his eyes, I just want them 450 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,119 to try to If they can capture I think even like seventy five percent of 451 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:37,799 that feeling, then I think it's like a win. So I really hope 452 00:25:37,799 --> 00:25:41,400 that those harder puzzles because this is a game that I what do you think 453 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,119 the story would be like length wise in this Like I feel it's not gonna 454 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,480 be a massive store, right, So that's where it's like, I feel 455 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,559 like I'm gonna really every time a puzzle pops up, I think I'm gonna 456 00:25:49,559 --> 00:25:52,440 do it unless I hear it's like a thirty hour game. I just I 457 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,720 really don't think so when we talk about Wolf and Sign even like fifteen hours 458 00:25:56,799 --> 00:26:00,319 or something around there. Yeah, even Spider Man. I was sure in 459 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,359 my opinion this year. So that's why when those pop up, I'm gonna 460 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,440 be just unless there's something in the game where you can't do a certain puzzle 461 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:07,960 until you got a certain thing. But I'm gonna be looking for those puzzles 462 00:26:08,039 --> 00:26:11,279 left, right and center. You know, how do you think, how 463 00:26:11,319 --> 00:26:15,240 do you think they work in the optional puzzle element, like, because I 464 00:26:15,279 --> 00:26:18,119 would think that this game is linear of you you go to Rome and you 465 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,319 do some stuff in Rome, you go to Egypt, you do some stuff 466 00:26:21,319 --> 00:26:22,960 there, and then there's cut scenes in between. So it's like, can 467 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,960 you go to revisit areas or is it just like within this Greater Tomb there's 468 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,039 just like this whole extra side section that you don't need to do, but 469 00:26:30,079 --> 00:26:33,079 you can go do a puzzle there, or are these gonna because Tay, 470 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,359 you're making that comparison too far. I think you mean more in in terms 471 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,319 of the gameplay and the freedom of encounters and stuff, But I don't know 472 00:26:41,319 --> 00:26:44,079 in terms of like the openness of areas. Do you think that could play 473 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,079 a role in this too, in terms of where this optional stuff comes in? 474 00:26:47,519 --> 00:26:52,480 Well? Yeah, It's it's interesting because I I when I think of 475 00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:55,640 this game, I'm instantly kind of just imagine like, oh, well, 476 00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:00,079 you're gonna be You're gonna be doing these puzzles to unlock and progress forward like 477 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,480 you would be in like an uncharted game. So just to kind of look 478 00:27:03,559 --> 00:27:07,799 and observe this as like, hey, you can go to certain areas and 479 00:27:07,839 --> 00:27:11,480 you can do certain things. Those certain things will not necessarily haven't. Maybe 480 00:27:11,519 --> 00:27:17,559 they'll enhance your time to progress in the narrative, I guess I. Or 481 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,359 maybe they'll offer you certain pieces of equipment, just certain things that will make 482 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,720 it easier to progress. Yeah, because it's just it's it's weird costumes exactly. 483 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:30,680 Yeah, because it's weird to think about something that's not going to affect 484 00:27:30,839 --> 00:27:36,440 your your ability to finish the game. It's just weird for me to think 485 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,480 like that. Do you think you're gonna have stuff? Because I think it's 486 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:41,759 gonna be literally, I think it's gonna be funny enough, very similar to 487 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,079 I'm not sure, like I guess you guys have played Golden Liye. I 488 00:27:45,079 --> 00:27:48,000 feel like it's gonna be very similar to like James Bond type of games where 489 00:27:48,039 --> 00:27:49,440 you get a set mission, you start to in franch and then you just 490 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,960 go cutscene into the next one. Like I don't think they'll be Yeah, 491 00:27:52,039 --> 00:27:55,759 they'll be exploring, but not in the sense that we think. Do you 492 00:27:55,759 --> 00:27:57,839 think Indy's just gonna be a base character? Do you think there's gonna be 493 00:27:57,839 --> 00:28:03,200 stuff like, oh, enhance like your whip strength, en hands, how 494 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,880 many bolts you can stew because I wonder that stuff you could hide in between 495 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,519 these puzzles too, right where it's like, Okay, you could still complete 496 00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:11,839 the game, but if you want a little extra speed, you want the 497 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,000 whip to be stronger if you want. And again I think costumes as well 498 00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:18,799 too. I feel like that stuff they would put in And to your question 499 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,680 of where I feel like you might have to replay the whole mission because I 500 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,119 don't know if they'd have just a a puzzle base. I'm not sure that's 501 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,359 something that he's doing like Lower of the Rings games where it's like, oh, 502 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,960 you can just go back and do all air gorns like waves and like 503 00:28:30,039 --> 00:28:33,079 everything that was special hand it was just like all the menu. I guess 504 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,359 the story story wise, they could just like Indy could have a little journal 505 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,640 or something and you like open up the journal and he's like revisiting the memory 506 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,200 and then you like zoom in and then you get put in that memory, 507 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,119 you know, and you kind of get put back there. Or maybe it's 508 00:28:45,119 --> 00:28:48,319 just like when you beat the game, then you can kind of go chapter 509 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,279 select and go to that. Cause yeah, I think you're right in terms 510 00:28:51,319 --> 00:28:53,960 of that setting of like you're gonna have a set piece, you're gonna have 511 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,000 cut scene, and then you're into like the open, more open area of 512 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,079 that which might have some calm bat puzzles, some some rooms and whatnot. 513 00:29:02,119 --> 00:29:04,119 And I feel like it probably is gonna stick to that structure, especially if 514 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,359 we're going to all these different places in the world. They also makes me 515 00:29:07,359 --> 00:29:11,680 feel like you're gonna get two or three missions in each location, and that 516 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,480 makes for a good run time and good variety and that sort of thing. 517 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,440 Mm hmmm hmm. Yeah. I guess it's in terms of the upgrades. 518 00:29:18,839 --> 00:29:23,400 I don't know, because all we saw here was technically like punching the whip 519 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:29,079 and the one pistol right like the revolver. So I don't know, like 520 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,880 I cause it's like, do they just have a b yeah, do they 521 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,319 have upgrades with a pistol or are you getting other guns and other weapons. 522 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:41,240 It doesn't seem like they are trying to highlight the action as being this huge, 523 00:29:41,279 --> 00:29:45,039 bombastic thing with all these different cue you know, tons of movement options 524 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,240 and dashing and dodging and all these weapons. So I would say, I 525 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,920 I think that they're gonna keep it more simplistic. But then there's gotta be 526 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,240 like some sort of metaprogression. I don't even like something like skins too. 527 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,240 It's not like Indie's known for having. I guess he does have a few, 528 00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:03,440 like iconic costumes, but even though with the first person element of it, 529 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:04,799 yeah, I guess it's like I don't think I don't see that as 530 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,519 much as a focus. But you just see when he's climbing a pole and 531 00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:11,720 it's like, oh, he's in his white suit from Indie too. But 532 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,039 I and the cut scenes I would feel like would have their specific character looks, 533 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,440 it would be off. So yeah, I just feel like we've been 534 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,519 seeing this more and more for Xbox games that are of course if they went 535 00:30:22,519 --> 00:30:26,000 into game Pass and they want to have some reason for you to buy something 536 00:30:26,079 --> 00:30:30,079 additional on top of that. And I feel like with Indie or for most 537 00:30:30,119 --> 00:30:33,079 games, like they have like some sort of skins like Red Fall or Starfield 538 00:30:33,079 --> 00:30:36,799 Head this kind of thing. So I feel like they would maybe want to 539 00:30:36,839 --> 00:30:38,759 do something like that, but hopefully within the game as well there's some sort 540 00:30:38,759 --> 00:30:41,119 of customization. But I don't know with what I was shown here, Like, 541 00:30:41,119 --> 00:30:45,759 I don't even know if I want or need or care about that kind 542 00:30:45,759 --> 00:30:48,359 of stuff. If it's there, it's exciting, But you're right, sort 543 00:30:48,359 --> 00:30:52,240 of progression YEA, what do you put there then? Right? Is it 544 00:30:52,319 --> 00:30:56,039 just little stuff like extra ammo extra like strength of the way up, more 545 00:30:56,279 --> 00:30:59,640 stealth because they say you can seek out like is it just stuff like that 546 00:30:59,759 --> 00:31:03,680 just character base like attributes them. Yeah. I mean, I guess they 547 00:31:03,759 --> 00:31:08,640 can do like story story elements. Story beats could be a thing that they 548 00:31:08,759 --> 00:31:11,279 do there. But I don't know. I really don't know what the reward 549 00:31:11,319 --> 00:31:15,880 would be for doing those things. Like if it's story beats, would that 550 00:31:15,759 --> 00:31:21,000 would that be at risk of detracting from your overall experience? I mean, 551 00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:22,359 I guess I don't think they would hide like cut scenes behind them. I 552 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,839 just mean more like you know, notes and things that you can read to 553 00:31:26,839 --> 00:31:30,640 get a little bit more info on these these places or these artifacts that you're 554 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:36,240 finding. M h. I Also, do you guys, like with all 555 00:31:36,279 --> 00:31:41,079 these indie things always having some amount of paranormal uh element to them, do 556 00:31:41,079 --> 00:31:45,799 you think there's gonna be anything like that in this game that like goes into 557 00:31:45,839 --> 00:31:48,599 your character and how you play through the game, or do you think maybe 558 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,440 that would be part of the story, but not necessarily change your play style 559 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,880 at all. I could see a specific level mission doing that, like the 560 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:01,160 way at the end of Temp Dune and he gets taken over and he's like, 561 00:32:01,359 --> 00:32:04,960 you know, voodoo magic and stuff. I could see something like you 562 00:32:05,039 --> 00:32:07,920 get bit or curse get on you and maybe you're stronger, fast or something 563 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,440 like that. But I hope it's nothing like level two you get some curse 564 00:32:12,519 --> 00:32:15,039 in the whole game. It's like yeah, and he has this secret fire 565 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,759 ring and it's like, oh, I don't want that. So I think 566 00:32:17,799 --> 00:32:21,920 they'll definitely be supernatural stuff. I think Tony Todd, you know great Tony 567 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,680 Todd, Kenny Man, he just did Venom, like already this bigger dude. 568 00:32:25,119 --> 00:32:28,200 There was creepy stuff around and felt like, Okay, he's gonna have 569 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,559 some supernatural stuff going on. But I hope if that happens with Indy, 570 00:32:30,599 --> 00:32:35,960 it's one very curated, specific level slash mission. I wouldn't want it the 571 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,480 whole time, I think, or even if it's like if you have like 572 00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:40,880 some sort of I don't know, like lantern that does something like blind your 573 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:45,000 opponents, like I don't know what whatever magic mumbo jumbo it is. I 574 00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:51,559 don't want. I don't want that on the side. M h. What 575 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,359 else. They also showed some a couple of like set pieces, you know. 576 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:59,200 We saw one where you're in the back of a car manning the machine 577 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,240 gun taking down a Plane's one where you're jumping from one plane to another. 578 00:33:01,359 --> 00:33:04,599 So I feel like, in that very uncharted way, we're gonna get some 579 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,599 of those fun set pieces that you need. Because it's Indian. That's a 580 00:33:07,599 --> 00:33:09,279 big part of it as well, So I think those are gonna be fun, 581 00:33:09,359 --> 00:33:14,079 even if like gameplay wise, mechanically they're not that interesting. Hopefully they're 582 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,519 able to capture that that scale of it and make it feel grand and big, 583 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:22,799 swelling music and whatnot that will make it feel epic. I'm looking forward 584 00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:24,400 to some of that stuff. Yeah, and that's one thing you mentioned too. 585 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,319 We didn't talk about, but I'm looking forward all that set piece stuff 586 00:33:28,319 --> 00:33:30,400 because I think that's something you have to nail. Some of the best ball 587 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,720 Honk games did that. But what you are so, I was like, 588 00:33:32,759 --> 00:33:37,960 in so far as obviously it's not well John Williams coming back, but they 589 00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:40,160 stress that they're very happy with this composer and from most of the music other 590 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,720 that was other than the India Jones theme. It felt like it fit with 591 00:33:44,799 --> 00:33:45,920 the vibe and everything. So I was enjoying that, and I like the 592 00:33:46,839 --> 00:33:50,920 I don't know because I guess like I feel like, technically, if they 593 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,359 got Harrison Ford's face, they could have just bought the soundtrack from probably all 594 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,680 five movies and just used tracks from it, right, They could have just 595 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,000 recycled, done anything. So I do like that specifically, they're getting the 596 00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:04,920 crew to come in and do specific music beats that should add to things like 597 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,440 the set piece and character moments and everything. So but yeah, I'm excited 598 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,719 to say they're cooking. I'm hoping there's gonna be something that is like a 599 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,599 very memorable set piece where even if you don't love the game, it's like, 600 00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:15,639 oh, but that one level had you had to do this and this 601 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,679 and this, So hopefully don't blend together, and hopefully they I think space 602 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:25,000 them apart in a good manner as well too. M definitely what else we 603 00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:30,559 got that the voice actor for Indy is played by the great Troy Baker, 604 00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:35,159 who's, you know, just the most famous voice actor in games right now 605 00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:38,119 for the last few years. It does all these iconic Roles. I think 606 00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:44,320 he fucking nailed it and is I mean, he's the perfect casting now because 607 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,840 of how good he is at capturing the Harrison Ford isms, the little things 608 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,519 listening back to the trailer post because I didn't catch that it was Troy Baker 609 00:34:52,559 --> 00:34:55,239 when I was watching the trailer for the first time, but watching it back 610 00:34:55,559 --> 00:34:59,000 knowing that and I'm like, Okay, I can notice it's Troy Baker now, 611 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,639 but just little thing he does to capture the certain way Harrison Ford. 612 00:35:02,119 --> 00:35:05,800 I don't even know how to describe these things. Only a master like Kim 613 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,719 and voice work could really describe these things, I'm sure, but I think 614 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,760 like ten out of ten absolutely nailed it. And I I would happy, 615 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,400 be happy if you played this character for a trilogy of games, like he's 616 00:35:15,519 --> 00:35:22,320 so good at it trilogy putting it out there. Oh yeah, yeah, 617 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,679 I was happy. I again, it's just another one of those things that 618 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:30,320 it's just it does justice to the original character. And I think it's great 619 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:37,119 because when you can have like new new actors and new just people in general 620 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,360 come forward and be able to just capture and deliver on such a great tribute 621 00:35:40,519 --> 00:35:52,880 tribute tribulative, tributative honorable way. Yeah, I think you could just want 622 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,360 to attribute tribute. Yeah, that's perfect. Yeah, they contribute to the 623 00:35:54,639 --> 00:35:59,119 the original very very well. And I think that that that just speaks to 624 00:36:00,039 --> 00:36:04,760 OG fans new fans alike. So I'm very happy with that because I feel 625 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,119 like, like I said, that helps because I think people still have been 626 00:36:07,159 --> 00:36:08,559 excited if it was any game. But the fourth thing does help. I 627 00:36:08,639 --> 00:36:13,159 forgot to mention because Taya mention it to the I like the connuity verts taking 628 00:36:13,159 --> 00:36:16,440 place because there's like a longer gap between. Like it's weird because one and 629 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,159 three because technically two is a prequel, right, so there's this long time 630 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,159 in between. So I think that's fun. I think there's a couple of 631 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,400 characters you've seen be four, but a lot of the main cast is new, 632 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,400 so I think that's smart. Well, yeah, what do you what 633 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,880 do you guys in terms of story content, what do you think there's anything 634 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:36,960 into mine in between that timeline there, specifically between Raiders and Last Crusade that 635 00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:39,480 you hope they go into, or you or you think they'll go into. 636 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,679 It's really tough because I don't I don't think you can really touch upon the 637 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,719 father stuff because I feel like they say that for three and it seems like 638 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,480 they're leaving Marianne out of that right, and yeah, that's why you have 639 00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:52,960 your new kind of I don't know if she'll be a love interest, but 640 00:36:53,039 --> 00:36:59,320 female protagonists there, so I really don't and I'm very curious to I feel 641 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,320 like it's going to be more in an adventure. I think it's gonna be 642 00:37:01,519 --> 00:37:06,800 more of a venture and Cadmill's game purely just because I feel like at least 643 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,960 one, three and five and even four there they always have some sort of 644 00:37:12,639 --> 00:37:15,400 you know, journey with INDI my favorites two and it doesn't have that much 645 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,239 of a journey. But I don't know what you can do development why so 646 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,159 I feel like is they also the crazy one point we're really stressing, like 647 00:37:22,519 --> 00:37:24,920 we love this villain. He's a thinker, you know, he's always outsmarting 648 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,920 Indy. So I don't think it. Yeah, I don't think it's gonna 649 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,679 be so much of an emotional journey and more just learning some sort of skills. 650 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,599 So as far as far as storyline stuff, no, I'm kind of 651 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,000 just fine if it's weird, because I'm a story guy and I want a 652 00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:39,239 good story but at the same time, I am kind of fine if it's 653 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:44,679 just like a basic adventure that Indy say, you know, survives but doesn't 654 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,119 win in the end, you know, maybe I'm more interested where they have 655 00:37:46,159 --> 00:37:50,079 to hit the story point is, Yeah, the villain Tony Todd, what 656 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,559 is the great Circle? I think that's the stuff I need a home run 657 00:37:52,599 --> 00:37:53,880 on, where with the last movie it's like, well, I need the 658 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,199 character stuff because this is Ford's last outing, so I want them to deliver 659 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,400 on that, which for me they did. So I think for me it's 660 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:05,440 more just hit that adventure fall in love with the journey. So yeah, 661 00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:10,400 it's interesting looking at the timeline because Raiders the Lost Dark is nineteen thirty six 662 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,400 and Crusade is nineteen thirty eight, so you have that two year period right 663 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,920 in between of this game is going to be taking place with. So I 664 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,639 think that there's so much you could explore here and you like an average Indiana 665 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:29,159 Jones adventure. I mean, obviously it's a it's a few weeks time that 666 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,880 condensed into like an hour and a half two hour long film, but even 667 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,360 a few weeks, he could slide in so many different things that are occurring 668 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,440 his teaching in between. So I'm just curious if we're going to see Henry 669 00:38:40,559 --> 00:38:45,840 Jones Senior pop in here or something. I don't think so, you don't 670 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:50,400 think so. I think I'm not saying that. Yeah, I don't know. 671 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,239 I guess it depends how size of the role. I just feel like 672 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:53,480 with three, it's like they've been a strange gymp seeing each other in a 673 00:38:53,559 --> 00:38:57,800 while, right, So you don't want to lessen the impact there. But 674 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,159 true, if he does appear, who's who's voicing them? No, well, 675 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:06,480 clearly not Sean Conray. Well no, I bet if he's in their 676 00:39:06,519 --> 00:39:07,960 first small amount, I bet Troy could do it and they just pay him 677 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:15,760 for both cool. I think they'll stay in there lane for the most part, 678 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,320 Stay in lane, stay in lane. But yeah, no, I 679 00:39:19,519 --> 00:39:22,840 think the villain they showed off there looks cool. Gina is the kind of 680 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:27,599 sidekick we also in one of the temples, you hear her voice and she's 681 00:39:27,639 --> 00:39:31,519 like offering some tip to India. So it seems like she'll join on on 682 00:39:31,639 --> 00:39:35,440 some of these adventures to some extent. I don't know if she'll be there 683 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,000 in combat shooting down enemies too, or if she's just there in like a 684 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:44,800 maybe she's just there in like the more tutorial temple or that ruin that sort 685 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:49,440 of thing. Not sure, I bet she'll you will be like some like 686 00:39:49,559 --> 00:39:52,199 looking at the side and maybe she's off shooting somewhere definitely in like cutscenes and 687 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,840 whatnot. But hopefully she makes it in there in a big way for some 688 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,519 of these other things. And then yeah, Taylor, you mentioned too that 689 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,840 like the different locations, so on the map they go, they go to 690 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:05,400 Rome. They mentioned the Himalayas. There's some kind of Mayan looking temples, 691 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,840 the pyramids of Egypt, so just you know, a bunch of iconic locations. 692 00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:13,440 You get a good variety there of just the classic Indiana Jones type temple 693 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,800 things, the Himalayas, like yeah, the Himalays, like the Maye temples 694 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:21,159 Egypt, Like we've seen all that stuff before. I can't remember if we've 695 00:40:21,199 --> 00:40:23,599 been to like Rome. Have we been to Rome? Probably right, I 696 00:40:23,679 --> 00:40:27,239 don't know if we have. I even thought, like, have we been 697 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,840 have we been to Africa? We've been in Africa? Right, because when 698 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,840 he said that the villain South Africa, I was like, I don't recall 699 00:40:36,679 --> 00:40:38,480 like even a set piece I know of course we get the plane map that 700 00:40:38,559 --> 00:40:40,760 goes like a lot of plays, But I mean, has there an extended 701 00:40:42,199 --> 00:40:44,719 sequence like with Rome, same thing, don't. I don't think anything long 702 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:49,119 extended. So I feel like, yeah, I feel like those two are 703 00:40:49,159 --> 00:40:52,159 missing something there, which is good. That's good. That's the first one 704 00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:53,119 of the first things you should do. And you're starting out the story of 705 00:40:53,159 --> 00:40:55,920 Okay, what what has Indy not done? You know, because you don't 706 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,639 want to make it just the exact same. You want to capture the spirit, 707 00:40:59,679 --> 00:41:01,320 but have it. I feel like you were doing something different. Mm 708 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:06,719 hmmmm. I mean, well, I was just curious because like apparently people 709 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,360 just say he's been to a role many a time, but like Syracuse in 710 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,119 dial of Destiny and he goes back in time. I think that's pretty close 711 00:41:14,199 --> 00:41:17,039 to home. Oh yeah, sure, why not? I won't count that 712 00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:22,280 one a different, different style. That's the whole game. You just go 713 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,840 back in time and you're Indie, you know, doing that stuff. Yeah, 714 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,800 it's like not the first time he's traveled back in time apparently, now 715 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:34,920 if we reconned it, yeah, the last uh yeah. Once again, 716 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,679 the release date twenty twenty four. They didn't say anything else for other games. 717 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:42,400 They did specifically say Fall. When we were talking in discord, we 718 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,719 all seem to think summer a different time June, July, August one of 719 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:51,840 those. August I took. Yeah, I feel like I feel pretty solid 720 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,360 about that after a few days thinking on it. I I don't think they 721 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,800 want too much going on in the Fall, so I think it makes sense 722 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,320 to space it out. I think India is a perfect summer drop as well, 723 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,519 so and I kind of hope it is too, And I think that 724 00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:07,440 would be I think that'd be good for them, like maybe just right after 725 00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:10,320 I guess right after like Summer game Fest and all that stuff, like you 726 00:42:10,679 --> 00:42:15,199 do one last trailer and then you have a big release in July or August. 727 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:16,320 I think that would be a really good timing. So I hope they 728 00:42:17,159 --> 00:42:23,559 fall game then because I was with, is that what our ours in there? 729 00:42:23,679 --> 00:42:28,119 Yeah? They said Fall for about an hour okay, So yeah, 730 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,639 So why why wouldn't they just say like summer Because they put Visions in Man 731 00:42:31,679 --> 00:42:35,679 as Summer twenty twenty four and then SENDU as Saga as they put May, 732 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,800 So why wouldn't they just drop the month? Well, I don't think they 733 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,559 want to delay things. Ever, again, I think they've had too many 734 00:42:43,679 --> 00:42:46,519 bad optics delays in the last couple of years, So that's why I don't 735 00:42:46,519 --> 00:42:51,440 think they're I think they're just playing it safe and they just don't know yet, 736 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:52,920 so they're just gonna say twenty twenty four. You know, it could 737 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,960 be a twenty twenty four. We're very much reading into this where I just 738 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,199 feel like, Okay, if they're gonna say twenty twenty four not fall, 739 00:42:59,679 --> 00:43:00,840 then it got if it's gotta be summer, right, if you already have 740 00:43:01,039 --> 00:43:06,400 your May release or it's twenty twenty four so late that it's very pushable, 741 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:07,840 and I think there's a good chance that it does get pushed as well. 742 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:13,480 But if it is twenty twenty four, I would I'm still I'm assuming summer 743 00:43:13,559 --> 00:43:16,400 if that is to be believed, But who knows if that's gonna stick. 744 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,639 I mean, we saw a lot of the game, like obviously they're showing 745 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,000 us a very curated amount, but in terms of like the way I look 746 00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:25,039 at Fable, I'm my, ah, it's not ready for a long time. 747 00:43:25,199 --> 00:43:27,599 I look at this, I'm like, oh, that looks like a 748 00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:30,559 that looks like a launch trailer, Like let's let's get this shadow dropping in 749 00:43:30,639 --> 00:43:34,440 releasing right now. That would be insane. If they shadow dropping Indiana, 750 00:43:34,519 --> 00:43:37,880 Oh oh my god, be available after this direct ends, that would be 751 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,119 people go crazy. I don't think you could do that. You can do 752 00:43:40,159 --> 00:43:43,840 it for High Fire Rush, but yeah, doing that for Jones, I 753 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,199 don't think Disney and stuff would have to go that lack of marketing budget. 754 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,519 Yeah. So yeah, And it's funny because like just the game pass thing 755 00:43:52,599 --> 00:43:55,199 I kind of forgot about. So I'm just curious of, like wonder what 756 00:43:55,360 --> 00:44:00,440 Disney views as like a sign of success with that, you know, because 757 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:01,840 we have that with Blade, which I feel like couldn't even talk about play, 758 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,920 but with at least with Spider Man's like, well, okay, you're 759 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,960 getting all these copies you're selling, right, Midnight Suns, You're getting all 760 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,400 these copies you're not selling. But at least there's like, hey, what 761 00:44:09,519 --> 00:44:12,440 do we get in return? And That's what I'd be curious of, Like 762 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,239 how does game pass work for in the business in general? But when you 763 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:19,480 got someone that is a third party that there's not many lucasfilm games right now. 764 00:44:19,519 --> 00:44:22,360 They're very specific to certain companies. With Star Wars I wonder what they 765 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,880 what is Bethesda Todd Howard, because he said he pitched it to them. 766 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,000 He said he's this is the game and he's been droom to make forever. 767 00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:30,320 He's a huge fan. So that's great. Hopefully that's all true, But 768 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,559 like I wonder what the well, like everyone says, I we're going to 769 00:44:34,599 --> 00:44:36,840 game right, but I hope it to genuinely like, hey, I love 770 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:37,639 Indy. I'd love to do this for somebody's like, oh yeah, of 771 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:42,360 course. It's been a big sense. It's an easy franchise to be like, 772 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,599 yeah, I love Indy. So that's my I would love to be 773 00:44:45,639 --> 00:44:46,880 a fly on the wall. See like what does Lucasfilm get out of it? 774 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,199 You know, like I'm not sure there's some profit, but like how 775 00:44:50,199 --> 00:44:53,280 do you measure that in the game pass like subscriptions and everything. So that's 776 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:58,840 I mean, that's where I think those those add ons that they've been doing 777 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,360 coming into a effect where it's just you know, you the outright game, 778 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,760 like the ninety dollars game is what it is, but then you can get 779 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,960 that upgrade to the Legendary Edition whatever they call it, or you have like 780 00:45:09,079 --> 00:45:13,639 that, you know, fifty dollars thing or forty dollars whatever was that they 781 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,360 had for Red Fall and Starfield. So obviously that's a smaller chunk of money 782 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:21,079 there, but obviously for Xbox it makes sense. So yeah, you're right. 783 00:45:21,079 --> 00:45:23,400 When they're bringing in different partners, it definitely brings up that question of 784 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:29,239 how does the money get split. I'm not sure. Is also just it 785 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,239 dropping on Steam, which I'm sure that'll do pretty well. I think it'll 786 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,719 do very well in Steam as a game as well. I could see that 787 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,679 being a thing a lot of people want to mod as well, so get 788 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,920 it on there, So yeah, I think I think in that way it'll 789 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,800 it'll probably have some good sales still, and we've even seen that tons of 790 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,119 games that drop in a game past still sell a ton of copies. People, 791 00:45:47,599 --> 00:45:52,119 you know you're going to get that like the most downloaded in twenty four. 792 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:53,400 Like I don't think it's gonna be Starfield, but it will be like 793 00:45:53,559 --> 00:45:59,320 in twenty twenty four, the most downloaded first played in five hours. I'm 794 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,719 sure there's a lot of people that have all the Indiana Jones movies DVD's on 795 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:07,199 their shelf and they want to they want to add the newest thing in there, 796 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,480 right, and they need to make sure because people will miss this Xbox 797 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,480 when it comes out. Every time you open your up your Xbox. There 798 00:46:13,559 --> 00:46:15,239 needs to be an ad for this game so people that they've even missed it, 799 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,960 Oh there's Indiana Jones game and once they learn, it's to click away. 800 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,159 If they have nice theme, a nice theme for the front page. 801 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,639 Game pass is the first thing you gotta do that for like until about out. 802 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,639 I feel like, if you want to really make this a big deal, 803 00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:34,199 yeah, I'd be very very interested in seeing if they have like a 804 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,239 nice physical special edition it comes like an indie statue and all that kind of 805 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:43,719 stuff, Golden Idol, or even if they add like usually specialists coming the 806 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,199 soundtracks now too y circle. So I've been like a game like this including 807 00:46:47,199 --> 00:46:51,800 the soundtrack to Dalla would be super super hype. But you mentioned mods. 808 00:46:52,079 --> 00:46:54,079 Could you guys imagine if they did like a Captain America mod where you're like, 809 00:46:54,199 --> 00:46:59,559 the main villain is just like Reskin is Red Skull and then India's Reskin 810 00:46:59,639 --> 00:47:02,199 is Captain in America. Man, you're getting some ideas. Get out there 811 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:07,360 of Xbox didn't want to make a Marvel game one now the dude with blade, 812 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,800 but yeah, that could be. That could be the way they do 813 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:16,320 it. You get anything else character in there, but leave them in whatever 814 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:22,760 that movie is called. Any any other thoughts on Indie, No, I'm 815 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:27,360 excited. It was like I'll say it, like exceeded expectations by a little 816 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,280 bit, not in the way like Blew me Away, but I was like, 817 00:47:29,519 --> 00:47:30,639 Okay, I'm happy with this and then went a little bit more so 818 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,039 I'm we're on the right track. So I'm really excited to play it, 819 00:47:34,159 --> 00:47:37,639 and I I hope it's good. So where's this on your most anticipated list? 820 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,239 Now? For just game releases, not for this year, but just 821 00:47:40,519 --> 00:47:45,159 in general. Oh, it was like top five a good side quest, 822 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:49,079 just like even just in general throw like anything else. I don't know if 823 00:47:49,119 --> 00:47:52,239 it's like I guess it depends on the status of Nights or Republic, but 824 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,119 like, I know I got Grand Theft Auto in there. I know there's 825 00:47:55,719 --> 00:48:00,840 the Wolverine game. I think it might be a top ten because I fel 826 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,960 like there's already other ones where it's like there's replaced somewhere in there. You 827 00:48:05,039 --> 00:48:08,679 know, hopefully you know that's a tough thing, but I guess an now 828 00:48:08,679 --> 00:48:12,320 it's things I'd say definitely ten, but we should yeah one time, if 829 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,320 we ever slow week, we should do just overall because I don't have that 830 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:16,360 list of my mind right now. I got for this year, but for 831 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,840 like the overall years, you know, like where's beyond good and evil? 832 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,039 You know, yeah, who knows skulls? Top five for you? Top 833 00:48:24,079 --> 00:48:27,639 ten? I'd say this could be top five, but again I got to 834 00:48:27,679 --> 00:48:30,599 revisit, just examine my my list. But this one's definitely got me hyped. 835 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:35,400 Good stuff. Okay, what the hobbout? We take our first break. 836 00:48:35,519 --> 00:48:40,679 We'll be right back. Okay, we are back. Next up, 837 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:46,079 let's talk about Avowed. So this game is coming out in fall of this 838 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:51,599 year. Is what they said here today. I'm a huge Obsidian fan. 839 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,880 Obviously I loved Grounded. I think Pentiment was a really cool game. The 840 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:59,519 Outer World was a good time follow a New Vegas one of my favorite games 841 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,280 of time. So this is a studio I'm a big fan of, and 842 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,159 I just think they do a lot of cool, weird, unique stuff, 843 00:49:05,159 --> 00:49:07,840 and when it comes to RPG's, they do a lot of those kind of 844 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:12,519 things. In terms of your dialogue choices have impact on the world and all 845 00:49:12,559 --> 00:49:15,039 these things that you know you want to see from a game like this avowed 846 00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:17,880 though as a game. You know, originally we got the first trailer for 847 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,159 it, and it was a teaser trailer but looked really cool. I was 848 00:49:21,159 --> 00:49:24,840 like, man avout or sorry, Obsidian is making their version of Elder Scrolls 849 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:29,239 their Skyrim, and that got me super super hyped, And just over the 850 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:34,599 last couple of years, I think my expectations have been put more in check 851 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,440 just because we've heard that, oh, actually, this game's like kind of 852 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,280 a smaller scale. It's about the same scale as an Outer World, so 853 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:43,840 it's like, Okay, that's not anywhere close to an Elder Scrolls then in 854 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,679 that way. And I think because of that, like my expectations have kind 855 00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:51,639 of been not my hype levels, not necessarily going down a lot, but 856 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,519 just that expectation. I just don't foresee this being like an all time great 857 00:49:54,599 --> 00:49:58,039 game for me. I just think it's gonna be like solid, and I 858 00:49:58,159 --> 00:50:00,679 like the fantasy setting more so in Outer World, but I did enjoy my 859 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:05,960 time with that game too, so I guess going into this showcase here, 860 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:10,480 I didn't really know what we'd get here. But I was pretty pretty disappointed 861 00:50:10,519 --> 00:50:14,079 in what they showed up that I think it looks bad, but I just 862 00:50:14,159 --> 00:50:17,000 don't feel like they really tackled a lot of what this game is. Like 863 00:50:17,079 --> 00:50:22,000 they they talked a lot about the combat, and they showed some like dialogue 864 00:50:22,039 --> 00:50:24,239 option stuff like that was kind of it, Like, I didn't feel like 865 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:29,360 this is a very vertical, slicic, all encompassing look in the way that 866 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,679 Indie we kind of saw a little bit of everything or our history and told 867 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:36,360 we kind of got a little bit of all the different mechanics and things going 868 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:37,960 on. This is the one for me where I just I feel like they 869 00:50:38,039 --> 00:50:43,559 kind of dropped the ball in showing the scope of this thing because I imagine 870 00:50:43,559 --> 00:50:45,320 it's gonna have a bunch of RPG elements to it. There's gonna be all 871 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,519 these cool companions, and I feel like we didn't see any of that stuff, 872 00:50:49,559 --> 00:50:52,519 and that's what's kind of disappointing to me. So obviously we'll talk about 873 00:50:52,519 --> 00:50:55,239 what they show what they showed here, but what did you guys think of 874 00:50:55,360 --> 00:51:07,000 this this showcase? Like I think that you mentioned that pretty spot on with 875 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,880 just what they were showing, but I also think that just what I got 876 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:15,360 to see, it didn't really maximize what I would have hoped to have seen 877 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:19,119 them differentiate from other games like Elder Schools and whatnot. When I look at 878 00:51:19,159 --> 00:51:22,960 this, it just feels like it is that smaller scale of what I'm already 879 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,639 familiar with and what I've seen. That being said, Elder Schools is definitely 880 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:29,880 my go to out of all those, but that's the like you're like just 881 00:51:30,119 --> 00:51:32,480 Fallouts and whatnot, Like I love Elder Schools, but with this, it 882 00:51:32,599 --> 00:51:36,000 just seems like, yeah, it's a much more simpler version of that, 883 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:37,480 which I can from credit. Maybe this is their foot in the door to 884 00:51:37,639 --> 00:51:40,360 doing something bigger down the road, but that shouldn't be the case. This 885 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:45,679 should be them tackling this head on and making a little bit more larger. 886 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,360 You make a great point with the Outer World as being a smaller kind of 887 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,599 contained setting, and this to kind of follow suit with that. It is 888 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:58,199 upsetting because I feel like there's so much opportunity with this seeing a little bit 889 00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,079 more like the combat system was kind of pool. I enjoyed that, like 890 00:52:00,159 --> 00:52:04,920 the guns, the magic and the sword fighting and just and the dual combat 891 00:52:05,039 --> 00:52:07,079 kind of set up with our dual handed combat was kind of cool, but 892 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:14,519 there was dual wand wilding. They were yeah, so though those are some 893 00:52:14,639 --> 00:52:17,840 highlights for sure, and the world was really neat to be able to just 894 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,719 see what they had built, but yeah, I just feel like they were 895 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:27,280 there was some sustenance, some juice missing from it. Still for me, 896 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,679 I'd like, I'm definitely gonna still try it because I need to get my 897 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:35,880 my older scrolls fixed. That's not being satisfied as of late, but that's 898 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,719 where I currently am after this ring jump an elm ring give that a go, 899 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,400 you know, sure, I don't want to lose my hair. I 900 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,639 don't know. Yeah, So, Travis, I don't think you've ever played 901 00:52:45,679 --> 00:52:49,119 in the City and game. I can't call if you ever have, So 902 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:53,480 what do you? Then I'll go to my story where I remember Outer Outer 903 00:52:53,559 --> 00:52:57,760 Worlds I was really excited about and you really liked and it's a game that 904 00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,920 I want to play again because I played about a few hours and it just 905 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:02,360 didn't grab me, and I just feel like it was also the time where 906 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,559 I was very busy, so I've always had it on my list of like 907 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,559 even recently I've been like, I really want to get something because I do 908 00:53:08,679 --> 00:53:12,960 have star Field, but I wanted something. Again. What my issue with 909 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,159 Starfield was there's sometimes where the choice didn't really matter, right, There's sometimes 910 00:53:15,199 --> 00:53:17,719 it didn't and sometimes it didn't. I'm not saying every single thing has to 911 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,480 matter, but it just felt like, Okay, I never we talked about 912 00:53:21,559 --> 00:53:22,519 right where I never got to feel like I got to play as like the 913 00:53:22,639 --> 00:53:24,760 bad guy of the thing. And I'm not sure if you can do that 914 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:29,719 in our worlds, but so to some extent, yeah, and that's where 915 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:34,360 Starfield's like, you're always kind of going mostly one way. So so that's 916 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,000 the only one I played, and it didn't necessarily grab me, but I 917 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:38,239 didn't think it was bad. So I want to get back to this and 918 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,559 this one I've been waiting because it's not just you. I just feel like 919 00:53:40,639 --> 00:53:44,519 on my timeline people have just been really hyping this game up, and even 920 00:53:44,559 --> 00:53:46,079 podcasts. I listened to it, and I think I'm like today where I 921 00:53:46,199 --> 00:53:51,320 just haven't anytime really been connected with the magic of it all. And it 922 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,760 should be a game because I want RPGs where I have choice. I love 923 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,920 the dialogue trees like you've talked about, Dylan, because of then it's like, 924 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,800 Okay, we've got more options. I showed four, so I'm like, 925 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,960 okay, four. That's like a like that could be a good route 926 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,920 as long as it's not just a similar response to each of them. I 927 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,960 like when they show the scenario of, hey, you gotta trust this guy 928 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,280 and if you do, this happens. But if he was bad and you 929 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:14,079 trust him, this happened, So I could be interested in that. I 930 00:54:14,199 --> 00:54:17,840 have to this one will definitely be word of mouth, but just looks that's 931 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:22,280 an unfortunate thing. Like Tia Summo's Elder scroll thing. It kind of looks 932 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:28,000 like the like the I won't say straight to DVD version or B rate version, 933 00:54:28,079 --> 00:54:30,360 but just a lesser than because it's not that it definitely looks higher budget 934 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,599 and I'm sure will be a good game, but I mean it's just like 935 00:54:32,679 --> 00:54:37,039 the scale is way smaller, Like Outer Rolds is like a twenty hour game, 936 00:54:37,119 --> 00:54:39,400 right, which yeah, that too, like an Elder Scrolls or fall 937 00:54:39,519 --> 00:54:44,679 Out, like twenty hours in you're just you barely don't even Starfield, right, 938 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,000 remember talk about like the first second Wars is like what have I done? 939 00:54:46,119 --> 00:54:49,639 Right? So would you say it's like you get the main game on 940 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,960 console, and now like the handheld, like the Vita gets like a spin 941 00:54:52,079 --> 00:54:57,840 off, like a smaller scale version. Yeah, like every every like superhero 942 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,239 game on the game pub had like some three D beat him up, and 943 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,840 then the Yeah boy game was like some platform. I won't say that far. 944 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,960 I don't think I had that negative of opinion, but I just I've 945 00:55:07,039 --> 00:55:09,000 just been waiting to be hooked and it just not for me. The best 946 00:55:09,039 --> 00:55:13,159 thing about this was the poster they released. I really dug that, but 947 00:55:14,039 --> 00:55:17,280 yeah, I just I don't know. I thought, like you said, 948 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:21,039 I was interested to hear your thoughts still, but I kind of thought, 949 00:55:21,159 --> 00:55:23,519 if I'm gonna get hooked, this could be the time. Like it's wrecked, 950 00:55:23,519 --> 00:55:27,559 It's kind of viewed as the biggest one, I think, even more 951 00:55:27,639 --> 00:55:29,840 so than India a little bit, because India is like, of course it's 952 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,800 a big title and people are hyped from that, but that's purely because it's 953 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:35,679 like attached to an eyep right for a peer. This is a gaming eyepe, 954 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:37,320 something new. This is the biggest one, that's one of their bigger 955 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:42,000 releases. So here's the best example. And I don't think it'll be this 956 00:55:42,119 --> 00:55:45,079 quality. I just got a lot of Red Fall vibes, and I don't 957 00:55:45,079 --> 00:55:46,119 think it's gonna be like that, but just that same way where it never 958 00:55:46,199 --> 00:55:49,800 hooked with me, and then when it came out, it got And I 959 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,639 don't think this game will get that, but I think I could come out 960 00:55:52,639 --> 00:55:58,440 and get very kind of good, like middling good reviews. I don't I 961 00:55:58,559 --> 00:56:01,039 don't see this as a game of Year right. Outer Worlds was right. 962 00:56:01,039 --> 00:56:05,280 I think it like cracked the top six there that year or was it wrong? 963 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,800 Maybe like the main show? Okay, well then never mind. It's 964 00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,960 definitely another game they or one, so I guess. Yeah, I'm just 965 00:56:12,199 --> 00:56:14,079 waiting to see, but I think this one i'll be word of mouth. 966 00:56:14,119 --> 00:56:15,599 But even then I'll be checking out Our Worlds out first again because I want 967 00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:19,280 to give that game more of a more of a fair shot this time. 968 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:23,760 So yeah, Older Worlds was a game that I quite enjoyed the first time 969 00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:28,519 around, and then I came back like a year or two afterwards when there 970 00:56:28,639 --> 00:56:30,760 was like the big two big DEALC packs that came out, and then I 971 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:36,159 became a little more sour on the game just because I feel like my choices, 972 00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,079 well, you can make different choices I didn't feel like it changed things 973 00:56:38,159 --> 00:56:42,079 in I don't know, too huge a way. I suppose they didn't. 974 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,599 Yeah, I don't know that you can. You can make some decent choices, 975 00:56:45,679 --> 00:56:49,519 but I guess it it. I just feel like the world is so 976 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,239 small that it that hurts some of the reactivity of some of those things. 977 00:56:53,599 --> 00:56:57,800 But in terms of like Outer World is a game where you can kill like 978 00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,880 literally every single NPC in the game will like canntinue on, and I think 979 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:02,400 that stuff's kind of cool. In terms of making the quests go on if 980 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:06,679 you killed the quest giver is pretty is pretty cool. But then when I 981 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,360 got through the DLCs, one of them I thought was fantastic and some of 982 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,920 my favorite content in the whole game, and then one was like a real 983 00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,199 dud, And that was like the second one I did, so I kind 984 00:57:14,199 --> 00:57:16,480 of left me in a bit of sour spot on it. But yeah, 985 00:57:16,519 --> 00:57:20,599 Obsidian, it's it's weird because I, like, you know, follow out 986 00:57:20,599 --> 00:57:22,440 New Vegas. The game became so long ago. Now I've played that game 987 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,679 a million times over, and that is a game, Oh my god, 988 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:30,280 like decisions, choices matter, choices scaling out into all over the place, 989 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,320 huge scale because one day you could go back to it. I think it's 990 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,000 a game that still do I go back to it? Though? How do 991 00:57:37,119 --> 00:57:42,960 I acquire said game? You know, game pass on your content to game 992 00:57:43,039 --> 00:57:45,880 pass. It's the first party it's first party game. So yeah, was 993 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,239 there not a time where it wasn't though? Because it felt like I had 994 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:51,559 this conversation it was the city and got acquired in twenty nineteen, so prior 995 00:57:51,639 --> 00:57:53,360 to twenty nineteen or twenty eighteen, whenever they got acquired, it wouldn't have 996 00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,800 been on there. Prior to that. I just thought there was a time 997 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,840 where we're like, oh, yeah, hopefully one day it'll be on that. 998 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:04,119 I thought it was like a two but okay maybe, but but yeah, 999 00:58:04,119 --> 00:58:06,760 I mean, I just feel like I've always especially when I saw Outer 1000 00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:08,480 Worlds, I'm like, oh man, they're finally doing this again after all 1001 00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:13,719 these years. Very exciting, like the first person the open, open world, 1002 00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:15,559 that sort of thing. But it's like New Vegas was so different because 1003 00:58:15,559 --> 00:58:19,800 that was built off of where it was using Bethesda's engine. It was using 1004 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,400 a lot of assets from Followed three, which I'm sure made the development a 1005 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,639 lot easier, but also that engine was just built for the bigger scale, 1006 00:58:24,719 --> 00:58:28,400 and then when they got to their own engine whatever, and then engine they're 1007 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,519 using for Outer Worlds and avowed it's just not quite the same. Uh, 1008 00:58:31,639 --> 00:58:36,199 And so I hope that, Okay, they did Outer Worlds, here's their 1009 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,119 next game using this first person this engine, that sort of stuff. Hopefully 1010 00:58:39,119 --> 00:58:43,960 they can iterate and expand and just make it make it better in all the 1011 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:45,119 different ways, and hopefully it's like a little bit bigger, a little more 1012 00:58:45,119 --> 00:58:49,119 expansive, or feels more expansive, and then Outer Worlds two can be even 1013 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,880 bigger and better. And I just hope they can climb that up game to 1014 00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:57,320 game as as you know, you would expect they should. All had to 1015 00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,760 say, let's talk about some of the actual things kind of shown off here. 1016 00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,320 So so, yeah, the combat was a big focus. They showed, 1017 00:59:02,719 --> 00:59:07,199 uh the yeah, the wand kind of magic combat where there's you just 1018 00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,039 kind of shoot your wand and just like kind of does a generic little beam 1019 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:14,199 almost like a bullet, right as they alluded to. Or you can do 1020 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,119 more magic abilities like freezing enemies or using the root and ability which looked really 1021 00:59:17,159 --> 00:59:22,280 fun, fireballs, that sort of classic stuff. And then there's you know, 1022 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,199 the classic melee combat. You got your shields, which they're they're really 1023 00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:29,519 highlighting. And then there's even guns which I did not expect, like simple 1024 00:59:29,599 --> 00:59:31,840 guns like big chunky, heavy revolvers. Right. I don't think there's gonna 1025 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:37,280 be like a full LMG or anything like that in here, but yeah, 1026 00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,480 and then they they really stressed this load out system where you can like make 1027 00:59:40,039 --> 00:59:43,880 different pre built things, so you can have your build with your sword and 1028 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:45,880 your shield and you can quickly switch over to your like double wand thing, 1029 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:50,559 and so it seems like it's gonna be very frantic combat, very uh on 1030 00:59:50,719 --> 00:59:52,280 the fly. And to me, it seems like they're building a lot of 1031 00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:57,800 these combat sequences like little D and D encounters, like they're really taking into 1032 00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,960 account the environment that you're in and how it's going to change the fight. 1033 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:04,559 And I think that element of it seems really fun. And I think this 1034 01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:08,599 does look like a good improvement over Outer World just in terms of game feel. 1035 01:00:08,639 --> 01:00:12,119 I think it looks really solid. I'm excited to mess around with all 1036 01:00:12,159 --> 01:00:15,599 these different weapon types. I think that'll be I think that'll be fun, 1037 01:00:15,719 --> 01:00:17,880 and it seems like you don't really need to do multiple play throughs to access 1038 01:00:19,039 --> 01:00:21,599 to really like try out some of these things in meaningful ways. It seems 1039 01:00:21,599 --> 01:00:23,639 like they're trying to make it so you can at least put your toes into 1040 01:00:23,679 --> 01:00:28,920 all these different types of combat and build it out. So I was pretty 1041 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,400 impressed with that. I like the combat they're showing against these lizards. Even 1042 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:35,480 with the combat, though, like they really didn't show a ton of different 1043 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:37,039 enemy types and stuff. It seemed like they tried to show like this one 1044 01:00:37,119 --> 01:00:42,400 sort of encounter against these specific lizard guys a lot of that. So I 1045 01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,639 don't know if they're really trying to hold back here so they can have like 1046 01:00:44,679 --> 01:00:46,760 some other bigger showcase in a few months where they show off a lot more 1047 01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:50,599 or something. But yeah, I guess maybe it was a little bit limited, 1048 01:00:50,599 --> 01:00:52,719 But I was pretty impressed with what they showed with the combat. I 1049 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:53,840 think it looks fun. It looks like a good even maybe a bit of 1050 01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:59,360 an evolution over Skyrim system of really building up that dual wielding part of it, 1051 01:00:59,719 --> 01:01:02,039 which is the big thing that Skyrim did over you know, Oblivion and 1052 01:01:02,119 --> 01:01:06,440 stuff. So I'm I'm pretty, uh, pretty excited for the combat of 1053 01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,719 it. See, And that's where for me it's like I go back to 1054 01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:12,639 my roots where like the indie game for the most part of the okay, 1055 01:01:12,639 --> 01:01:14,559 I can get into that, I can see this where this was like, 1056 01:01:15,519 --> 01:01:16,840 this doesn't look like anything I want to do in first person. I don't 1057 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:20,840 know why, it just was not. It didn't necessarily look bad, but 1058 01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:22,960 it just didn't look like something for me. I guess I just I didn't 1059 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:27,800 love the dual wanting like everyone else. I did actually really like the inclusion 1060 01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:29,519 of guns. I know, like you said, there little ones, but 1061 01:01:29,639 --> 01:01:31,199 that kind of took me out a little, which I know, like you 1062 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:36,880 know, closer to it's a supernatural medieval fantasy world, so you can include 1063 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:38,039 them, but I was kind of like, eh, like, and I 1064 01:01:38,079 --> 01:01:42,119 guess I don't have to use them, but I just wonder if I would 1065 01:01:42,119 --> 01:01:45,400 have preferred them building some sort of other more magical esque weapon that could shoot. 1066 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:49,039 I mean, there's still a bone arrow as well, but yeah, 1067 01:01:49,159 --> 01:01:51,920 I know you got wands with it, just even something a little bit creative. 1068 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,480 But yeah, for me, it was the RPGM and stuff that were 1069 01:01:54,559 --> 01:02:00,280 the things that would have you know, got me. But nothing nothing wing 1070 01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,920 wise was really I was the opposite that that kind of pushed me out actually, 1071 01:02:04,079 --> 01:02:07,840 so that's where I was on that one. I can appreciate the quick 1072 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:13,159 changeups of just your your setups for weaponry, because that's with older scrolls. 1073 01:02:13,199 --> 01:02:15,000 That's always something I find, like I'm frantically doing. You pause, then 1074 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:19,679 you go and you got to like change your spells or like swap make sure 1075 01:02:19,719 --> 01:02:22,679 the right things on either hand and your favorites tab and then it cans. 1076 01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:27,559 Yeah, absolutely, so it can get very chaotic. So I like the 1077 01:02:27,639 --> 01:02:30,840 focus that they're they're doing with that for this time around. I think that's 1078 01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:34,000 really really nice, and I imagine that, Yeah, there's something they really 1079 01:02:34,079 --> 01:02:37,519 did want to focus on is you're going to be dealing with different enemy types 1080 01:02:37,559 --> 01:02:40,920 in these situations, so the their weaknesses are and certain advantages you can get 1081 01:02:42,039 --> 01:02:45,119 and one ups on enemy types is going to be changing drastically and quickly. 1082 01:02:45,199 --> 01:02:47,199 So I do like that it looked like too and maybe I'm mistaking that they 1083 01:02:47,239 --> 01:02:52,760 were able to like lock onto certain targets at times. I thought I could 1084 01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,840 see like I thought at certain times like they were just like casting spells are 1085 01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:59,440 attacking, but also looked like like a circle will kind of like hone in 1086 01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,079 on like an enemy type at times when they were like attacking, maybe it 1087 01:03:02,159 --> 01:03:06,360 was just part of just the weapon they were using or something completely irrelevant, 1088 01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:09,239 but that I'm sure once maybe to some extent we'll have like homing missiles. 1089 01:03:09,519 --> 01:03:14,559 Yeah, that makes sense. One, you know, big question I had 1090 01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:17,480 was like a huge part of Outer World is one of my probably my favorite 1091 01:03:17,519 --> 01:03:22,440 individual part of that game is the companions. I think that is so well 1092 01:03:22,519 --> 01:03:24,280 done, where the voice acting is really good. They all kind of have 1093 01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:29,199 their individual quests that you can go do. There's like travel banter when you're 1094 01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,239 just going through the world and they'll be talking about some random they have some 1095 01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:37,480 random conversation and it could get interrupted by some random enemy encounter and then they 1096 01:03:37,559 --> 01:03:42,119 like they'll pick up the conversation and a very natural It was like amazing stuff, 1097 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,679 and so I was I was. The thing I was surprised to Nazee 1098 01:03:44,679 --> 01:03:46,519 here at all is they didn't mention companions. I'm sure this game is gonna 1099 01:03:46,559 --> 01:03:49,559 have it, But even in like the combat, I was curious to see 1100 01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,360 how would that evolve or change, especially in like the fantasy setting that's so 1101 01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,679 much about you know, having a team composition of you got your healer back 1102 01:03:55,760 --> 01:04:00,880 here you got your tank, barbarian type, all these different kind of classes. 1103 01:04:00,239 --> 01:04:02,320 And I think that's a very fun thing to do in Outer world is 1104 01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:08,320 build your characters out and you can choose like how far behind you they stand, 1105 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,679 if they're really far back and they don't fight, or if they stand 1106 01:04:10,719 --> 01:04:13,079 right behind you and they're kind of like your bodyguard. You know, so 1107 01:04:13,159 --> 01:04:15,159 much customization, and so I'm sure that stuffs gonna be there the same one 1108 01:04:15,239 --> 01:04:18,679 an out of Worlds, hopefully even a bit better. So I'm sure that 1109 01:04:18,719 --> 01:04:23,719 I'll hopefully make the combat stand out a bit more as well when we see 1110 01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:27,679 some of that stuff, and I'm excited to see what kind of weird companions 1111 01:04:27,719 --> 01:04:30,800 you can get, because there's a couple especially weird ones in the Outer Worlds. 1112 01:04:30,199 --> 01:04:33,880 And then the RPG stuff was like, to me, maybe the biggest 1113 01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:39,280 omission and maybe they just wanted a bit more of a at quick glance showcase 1114 01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,880 here, but I feel like you have so much time like show off what 1115 01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,599 some of the skill trees look like, or what you're trying to do here. 1116 01:04:44,719 --> 01:04:46,079 How it's kind of a skill trees, I do. Man, that 1117 01:04:46,119 --> 01:04:49,480 stuff is so exciting for me, and once again something I thought was really 1118 01:04:49,519 --> 01:04:53,840 really well done. Crazy in outer worlds, we're like just character building, 1119 01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:57,199 picking your stats at the beginning of the perks and all that stuff. Leveling 1120 01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,880 up I thought was really well done because Upsidian has made a million RPGs, 1121 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,360 They're really good at doing that sort of stuff, and I just wanted to 1122 01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:04,239 see it. So that was another thing that was kind of an omission here 1123 01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:08,559 that I think will be exciting. And then one the other. So they 1124 01:05:08,599 --> 01:05:12,360 showed combat. The other big thing they showed was, uh, they're trying 1125 01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,519 to really show off like dialog, options and choice, and I just think 1126 01:05:15,519 --> 01:05:16,880 this is one thing that does not show well at all in a showcase, 1127 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,360 right, and a developer direct makes more sense than a regular trailer kind of 1128 01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,960 thing in a summer game fest. But it's one of those things where it's 1129 01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,199 like I don't know these characters. I don't know the situation, I don't 1130 01:05:26,239 --> 01:05:29,199 know the town or factions they're part of, so none of this really has 1131 01:05:29,239 --> 01:05:31,559 any meanings. So we're just showing me like making this choice. It just 1132 01:05:31,599 --> 01:05:35,960 doesn't work. So like I I appreciate that they tried, but I feel 1133 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:39,320 like they shouldn't have showed that, and they should have showed other more exciting 1134 01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:44,119 things and just mentioned like your choice will have consequence because we we know that, 1135 01:05:44,199 --> 01:05:46,119 and with a city, and like we should just even believe it by 1136 01:05:46,159 --> 01:05:49,400 default. So I felt like trying to show it was maybe a misstep here, 1137 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,800 and I would have liked to see like, for example, we didn't 1138 01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:58,239 see a single town or a city in this game pretty much. Yeah, 1139 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,000 yeah, the one like kind of desert area and then then a little bit 1140 01:06:00,079 --> 01:06:03,800 more of the fauna and whatnot. But yeah, even the areas, we 1141 01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:08,119 didn't get a ton of variety. In my opinion, like I said, 1142 01:06:08,159 --> 01:06:12,599 I thought that the developer tried her best to explain what the difference would be 1143 01:06:12,679 --> 01:06:15,360 as far as like the consequence of that, because this guy is like a 1144 01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:17,679 yeah, like quiet individuals, so it's like, oh, could you have 1145 01:06:17,719 --> 01:06:20,519 been a turn code this night? So I think they showed it. I 1146 01:06:20,639 --> 01:06:24,039 agree with you, it's hard to show, but then they tried to explain 1147 01:06:24,079 --> 01:06:26,000 like, hey, this could be what would happen if you picked this run. 1148 01:06:26,239 --> 01:06:28,719 I almost wish, though, as somebody that did like it, to 1149 01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:30,039 make it better, if they would have showed both, because they just showed 1150 01:06:30,079 --> 01:06:32,159 the one. We're like, oh, let meet you back Home basically leaves 1151 01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:36,079 like edit of it so it doesn't take forever, but yes, quickly show. 1152 01:06:36,719 --> 01:06:39,280 Yeah, I think that would have been better. But I agree with 1153 01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,079 you that it did seem I know, we said the other game is smaller, 1154 01:06:42,119 --> 01:06:45,840 but it seemed like very secluded to very just certain areas, very certa 1155 01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:51,800 because I just sat there's a lot of like that that brownish like whatever bright 1156 01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:57,320 dirt is like. It wasn't like I don't know what the like. Yeah, 1157 01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,800 Sam, it's like video game dirt, you know, where it's like 1158 01:07:00,159 --> 01:07:03,360 this, like the world doesn't look like there's been games. Yeah. No, 1159 01:07:03,559 --> 01:07:08,639 I do feel like the world was definitely lacking some life to it, 1160 01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:12,119 And so hopefully I'm hoping that this was just kind of a bad showing and 1161 01:07:12,159 --> 01:07:15,599 the game is a lot better than this. You know, I should be 1162 01:07:15,679 --> 01:07:18,719 like the hardest defender of this game, and I just, you know, 1163 01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:23,280 this is how I'm feeling. So I think that's probably not the best indicator. 1164 01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,639 But once again, I'm hoping they're just holding back so that when they 1165 01:07:26,639 --> 01:07:30,320 they really pump out some bigger content closer to the actual game release, it 1166 01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,400 doesn't need a full like direct like Starfield Goup, but give it like another 1167 01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:36,760 ten to fifteen minutes solo direct or. I'm sure it'll pop up at every 1168 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:41,480 Xbox showcase or summer game that's the rest of the year, so we'll see 1169 01:07:41,519 --> 01:07:45,239 that stuff. But I think they there's a room for a bit more here. 1170 01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:49,960 But any other thoughts on about here. You you mentioned the dialogue there, 1171 01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,960 and it looked like there's some dialogue had like icons next to it as 1172 01:07:54,039 --> 01:07:57,519 well. Yeah, maybe that's tied into like the skill tree if you can 1173 01:07:57,639 --> 01:08:01,119 do like speech persuade improvements or something persuad. It's a huge part of of 1174 01:08:01,239 --> 01:08:04,800 New Vegas, a huge part of Outer Worlds, and Outer Worlds is great 1175 01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:09,360 about that where it's like if you give your character like one intelligence, like 1176 01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:13,440 the lowest intelligence, you get all sorts of like stupid dumb character options of 1177 01:08:13,519 --> 01:08:16,119 all these you can't even like speak correctly because you're just so dumb and or 1178 01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,920 based on like the stats you have or you're gonna get it'll pull that in. 1179 01:08:20,199 --> 01:08:24,800 So that stuff's all there, and like I imagine it's gonna be there 1180 01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,199 in the way it was an Outer Worlds, but uh so, yeah, 1181 01:08:27,279 --> 01:08:32,000 I think that stuff's gonna be pretty well done. Your character classes and your 1182 01:08:32,319 --> 01:08:36,039 your choices in that way are gonna matter in conversations, So that's cool. 1183 01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,279 Visions of Man, I don't think we can we need to talk about this 1184 01:08:41,399 --> 01:08:45,359 too much. This was the surprise game here, and when I first saw 1185 01:08:45,359 --> 01:08:47,159 it, I was like, Oh, this is kind of a weird surprise 1186 01:08:47,199 --> 01:08:50,079 pick. Maybe not super exciting because we just got it at the Game Awards, 1187 01:08:50,119 --> 01:08:53,239 but I was like, you know what, cool, it's like it's 1188 01:08:53,239 --> 01:08:56,039 gonna be a game pass thing. I'm sure, like that's that's pretty cool, 1189 01:08:56,319 --> 01:08:58,880 but it's not. It's not a game pass thing. It's not even 1190 01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:02,399 exclusive. So I did feel like it was a weird inclusion here. You 1191 01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:04,439 know, it could be one of tho things they're trying to butty up close 1192 01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:08,800 to the score Nix, who knows there's an acquisition down the road, or 1193 01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:12,680 even just you know. One thing that Xbox has lacked for the entire history 1194 01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:17,119 of Xbox existing is that they've never really had a huge piece of the pie 1195 01:09:17,199 --> 01:09:20,439 of the Japanese market. That's always been a very very small piece of the 1196 01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:25,079 puzzle there. You look at the numbers of like PS fours sold there rether 1197 01:09:25,239 --> 01:09:28,840 to Xbox Xbox ones, and like it's just it's a very sad number for 1198 01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:30,720 Xbox, and I think that goes for every generations, just not a huge 1199 01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,159 console there. And so I think they've done a good job of, you 1200 01:09:33,199 --> 01:09:36,520 know, putting munch of Persona games on game Pass. They had all the 1201 01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:41,079 Hoosa games, and they're trying to get more of the j RPG stuff, 1202 01:09:41,119 --> 01:09:45,279 and I think getting the New Mana game on their console is is pretty cool. 1203 01:09:45,359 --> 01:09:48,000 But also like, this is not the A tier or S tier top 1204 01:09:48,039 --> 01:09:53,000 tier of the j RPG game and it's not even like a game past Day 1205 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:54,800 one thing. I mean, maybe it is, and they didn't announce it 1206 01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:57,159 here, but you think if they have that contract sign that they would have 1207 01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,960 announced it at this time. So so yeah, it felt like a weird 1208 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,439 inclusion for me. I think the game looks great. It looks really fun. 1209 01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:05,359 If it was on game passed, I would happily jump in ninety bucks. 1210 01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:09,439 It's kind of hard to justify, but I think the combat look really 1211 01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:13,119 solid. I love the visuals. I think the music is fantastic. This 1212 01:10:13,239 --> 01:10:15,039 looks really really fun. I just I don't know if I'm gonna pick it 1213 01:10:15,119 --> 01:10:19,199 up if it's not a game Pass title. Was that ninety bucks our price 1214 01:10:19,359 --> 01:10:27,439 or American why these games costing so much maydi dollars median just checking where Yeah, 1215 01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:30,079 I think unless your theory is right as far as I'm trying to buddy 1216 01:10:30,079 --> 01:10:33,159 out with Square Index, then I go, okay, I get to play 1217 01:10:33,239 --> 01:10:40,920 there completely understand. I think it's just then it's odd because, like you 1218 01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,359 said, if it's something that's not on games Passes, I'm like, hey, 1219 01:10:43,359 --> 01:10:45,039 you gotta buy separately. It's not in our home studio. That's why 1220 01:10:45,039 --> 01:10:48,920 if it has to be something bigger and it wasn't, so I don't know 1221 01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,000 if it would have been better for them to say, oh, this is 1222 01:10:51,039 --> 01:10:54,640 gonna be part of the showcase and people like yeah. I don't know, 1223 01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,880 because like I just felt like I remember on Artistscorp. That surprise it's like, 1224 01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:00,279 oh, man, like here we go. That's just like because I 1225 01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:03,159 was expecting like, oh, here's Elders, Yeah, elder scrolls, like 1226 01:11:03,239 --> 01:11:08,680 nothing like that. But I just thought something like something you know, to 1227 01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:12,520 an amount of like a even a replaced like that mayb would have been hype, 1228 01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,520 but something of that equivalent where it's like in Indie it's a smaller studio 1229 01:11:16,199 --> 01:11:19,159 or some sue something exclusive so yeah, not a game for me, and 1230 01:11:19,239 --> 01:11:23,680 also was a kind of a letdown where that was like, okay, that's 1231 01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,640 where I think the it could have been a great one, which is the 1232 01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,640 four games. So yeah, nothing nothing to add for me, sorry, 1233 01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:34,239 unfortunately nothing not my type of game so far. So mm hm tay there 1234 01:11:34,279 --> 01:11:39,960 any additional thoughts on that one. I would just be following the same footsteps 1235 01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:44,000 as mister Snell. There. I respect that. Moving on then, are 1236 01:11:44,039 --> 01:11:48,439 a history. I'm told this is a four X strategy game from Oxide Games, 1237 01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:53,720 who they said, you know, makers of many great tactic or four 1238 01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,920 X games such as Civilization five. Like I like that. They just they 1239 01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,359 said they set it up as if they've made all these games, and I'm 1240 01:11:59,399 --> 01:12:01,199 sure they have, but they are like only mentioned one game, which I 1241 01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:04,840 found kind of a funny setup for it. But uh, yeah, you 1242 01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:08,199 got very much. And you gotta do that when you promote your games in 1243 01:12:08,239 --> 01:12:10,560 the future, when you make your second game, like from the creator of 1244 01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:13,560 and it's just the game, you know, from the creator of Geek for 1245 01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:18,760 side Quest comes the latest RPG adventure from the mind. Yeah, so this 1246 01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:23,479 is uh, this is yeah, very civ like game. Surprise, Surprise, 1247 01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:26,520 based on what they've worked on before. All thirty guys first on this 1248 01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:30,680 one, Taylor, I know you're like tangentially into like you're like into RTS 1249 01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:33,039 games, but I don't know if you're really a CIV guy or this are 1250 01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:38,319 four X strategy kind of guy. I played SIV a little bit, and 1251 01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:41,960 yeah, I wasn't able to really get you know what, remember what you 1252 01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:46,119 played? Oh yes, let me pull up a picture of it. I 1253 01:12:46,199 --> 01:12:50,159 do remember one, two, three, five, six, Civilization Revolution, 1254 01:12:53,039 --> 01:12:55,760 the Space one or whatever it's called. Are they all the air of like 1255 01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:58,880 you talk about how you like Napoleon? Are they all in that type of 1256 01:12:59,079 --> 01:13:01,319 air of warn every thing like that? Like they go through like history, 1257 01:13:01,399 --> 01:13:04,520 like you start in like Caveman era and you go all the way up to 1258 01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:10,119 uh and you go all the way up to like putting a satellite or a 1259 01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:14,920 spaceship on the moon, that kind of thing. Yeah, the era one 1260 01:13:15,039 --> 01:13:20,000 time. This could be your time. Just look because I'll be doing Dune 1261 01:13:20,039 --> 01:13:23,640 soon. But I'm looking for that next great RTS that I just love, 1262 01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:25,840 you know, and I know this is not RT. Sorry just to put 1263 01:13:26,039 --> 01:13:30,520 just to stop you that, No, it's not an artist no turn based 1264 01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:36,359 right, there is a turn based, turn based strategy based what's that is? 1265 01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:42,119 Right? No, civilizations is always turn based. Yeah, this was 1266 01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,039 This genre is called like the four X genre where I forget what the four 1267 01:13:45,119 --> 01:13:49,600 ex's stands for. But it's like a grand strategy game, turn based on 1268 01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:54,680 a grid or more of a hex hex sort of grid turn based. Uh 1269 01:13:55,039 --> 01:13:58,279 yeah, you're building towns, you're doing war. But that sort of thing. 1270 01:13:58,359 --> 01:14:00,520 Can't you do that in real time time strategy games? Build towns and 1271 01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:04,960 stuff? You can, yeah, but it's not real time. What's not 1272 01:14:05,079 --> 01:14:12,119 real time civisation because it's turn based? No, No, I just now 1273 01:14:12,199 --> 01:14:15,479 I get it. I mean we're like there's arts games where you can't do 1274 01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:17,199 said thing, right, yes, okay, sure, yeah, like I 1275 01:14:17,279 --> 01:14:23,159 gage vampires, I think is kind of that's a closer connection than like StarCraft 1276 01:14:23,239 --> 01:14:28,680 or I just had a I just have had an ego crisis because it's like, 1277 01:14:29,039 --> 01:14:31,039 have I been referring to this genre the whole time? Like the Battle 1278 01:14:31,079 --> 01:14:35,000 Famill Earth to that one. That's an RTS, Okay, but that's where 1279 01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:40,479 you can also build towns and stuff RTS. Yeah, that's but in Lord 1280 01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:42,520 of the Rings you build towns and towers stuff, so I was like, 1281 01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,239 fuck, have I been wrong for the past like twenty four years of my 1282 01:14:45,319 --> 01:14:48,920 life? But we figured it out. Got Empire might be more of mind. 1283 01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,560 You can't remember what sieve but you're not necessarily huge stive guy, But 1284 01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:54,800 what do you think about this? I remember like one of them was like 1285 01:14:55,159 --> 01:14:59,319 Sieve for Beyond the Sword and like stuff like that, so around that that 1286 01:14:59,319 --> 01:15:01,720 I don't even know what that These are like two thousand and seven, thousand 1287 01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:04,960 and nine Sieve games because there I remember, I went to Walmart and I 1288 01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:08,359 got like a four pack of them, and this is when I dived in 1289 01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:10,600 and tried them out. I was like, yeah, these aren't really for 1290 01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:15,840 me. And that being said, I another I was looking into some other 1291 01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,039 games that ox I had done because I was like, this sounds familiar and 1292 01:15:18,159 --> 01:15:20,720 and behold, they did Ashes of Singularity, which is a game I picked 1293 01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:25,399 up a couple of years ago on PC and I love that game fun. 1294 01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:30,039 It's a fast paced I guess, so yeah, it's a fast paced RTS 1295 01:15:30,199 --> 01:15:33,239 game. I really enjoy it. So that's peaqued my interest enough to see 1296 01:15:33,279 --> 01:15:38,239 what this one is really going to be able to expand upon, and enough 1297 01:15:38,279 --> 01:15:41,000 that yeah, Okay, maybe I'll dip my toes back into like the turn 1298 01:15:41,079 --> 01:15:45,039 based stuff because lately I've been it's not like major games. I'm playing turn 1299 01:15:45,079 --> 01:15:47,840 based mobile games with some of my friends and it's it's been a lot of 1300 01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:51,520 fun doing that. So I think that there is maybe something there for me 1301 01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:57,439 to to try out. And while I love the rush of just setting the 1302 01:15:57,479 --> 01:15:59,880 troops in the battle, just having it like all out, like they're real 1303 01:16:00,239 --> 01:16:03,439 sins are pouring in, it's just chaos ensues, but I like also the 1304 01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:11,199 end can appreciate the slow paced intensity that comes with those turn based tragic games 1305 01:16:11,199 --> 01:16:15,279 because there's a little bit of like a slow burn involved with it. It 1306 01:16:15,399 --> 01:16:17,359 reminds me sort of like playing a game of Katan, and I can respect 1307 01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:21,840 that also. So I think this one has definitely shot up my list of 1308 01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:27,640 anticipated that I would like to at least really try and get a feel for 1309 01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:32,239 it. Yeah, nice, Travis, anymore thoughts on this one? As 1310 01:16:32,359 --> 01:16:36,079 we discovered, I thought it was a different game, but you know, 1311 01:16:36,159 --> 01:16:43,319 I have to look into U now the specific differences of that in turn Base 1312 01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:45,199 and URTS, so that'll be a different cast. I may all talk about 1313 01:16:45,239 --> 01:16:48,520 it, but so there's definitely. I think aspects of turn base that I 1314 01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:53,439 would like because if there's similarities to RTS. But this one just didn't, 1315 01:16:54,159 --> 01:16:57,199 didn't ring any of my bells, didn't hook me, didn't. This is 1316 01:16:57,239 --> 01:17:00,520 one that was too much for me. So I'll look forward to uh tear 1317 01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,159 or you play it. So yeah, well I wanted you guys go first, 1318 01:17:03,239 --> 01:17:06,800 but this is I thought this was an amazing showcase, and this is 1319 01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:12,920 now one of my most anticipated games. I thought this looked fucking phenomenal. 1320 01:17:13,239 --> 01:17:16,520 I love Civilization growing up as a game, I played like CIV three, 1321 01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:19,800 a ton, played a ton of CIV five, one of my most played 1322 01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:23,880 games of all time, and then I've played some CIV six, but I 1323 01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:27,760 didn't really love the direction that CIV six went in terms of the genre or 1324 01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,359 series. And I think that seems to make a lot of sense because it 1325 01:17:30,359 --> 01:17:31,079 seems like a lot of people that made SIV five, the game that I 1326 01:17:31,199 --> 01:17:34,800 love, left the studio after that and went to make this company and are 1327 01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:38,520 now making other games, and so to me, it seems like if there's 1328 01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:42,800 a divergence, you know, in the timeline there, the forking out seems 1329 01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:45,920 like CIV five one direction is like Okay, that studio went on to make 1330 01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:48,000 CIV six, which makes sense, and then this studio branched off and they're 1331 01:17:48,039 --> 01:17:51,840 kind of making to me what looks like the sequel to CIV five very specifically, 1332 01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:55,760 so I could not be more excited about this. I think this looks 1333 01:17:56,079 --> 01:17:59,960 amazing in so many ways. It feels like that in terms of the gameplay, 1334 01:18:00,199 --> 01:18:02,520 the focus, but also like the art style, like CIV six went 1335 01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:09,560 more cartoony and like exaggerated, like almost like Pixar looking characters or something. 1336 01:18:10,239 --> 01:18:14,119 But I feel like this is keeping their art style that I really really enjoyed 1337 01:18:14,239 --> 01:18:17,279 about CIV five. So I honestly I can talk about this for hours, 1338 01:18:17,279 --> 01:18:19,439 so I'll kind of rifle through some of my points here, but I think 1339 01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:24,000 this looks just amazing. Like I said, one of my most anticipaid games. 1340 01:18:24,199 --> 01:18:27,359 I think the living world element of it is fantastic. That's something I 1341 01:18:27,399 --> 01:18:30,439 always really loved about Save three is like you could go in and click on 1342 01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:33,520 like your city map, and it would show you like all this buildings you've 1343 01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:36,119 built, and I always liked as a kid, like you didn't need to 1344 01:18:36,159 --> 01:18:39,199 see this stuff, but it's just like visually, like to see all the 1345 01:18:39,239 --> 01:18:43,159 little town and your civilization building up these cities, and then CIV five, 1346 01:18:43,199 --> 01:18:45,880 I think that was something that has done pretty well of seeing all the little 1347 01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:47,880 farms, you're building, the roads, and like the way they've expanded that 1348 01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:51,199 here in terms of all the creatures and animals that are roaming around in the 1349 01:18:51,279 --> 01:18:55,239 fields and you see your people walking around in the streets, Like that's something 1350 01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:58,640 CIV five or any CIV game has ever really had before. Even CIV six 1351 01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:01,439 didn't have kind of that level of realism, and I feel like just makes 1352 01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:05,960 it look really immersive. It's caught those freaking resource icons, which is one 1353 01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:11,079 of my favorite parts about CIVI five That sounds so stupid, but just like 1354 01:19:11,159 --> 01:19:15,239 the micromanaging of different resources and being efficient or you know, pushing into food 1355 01:19:15,239 --> 01:19:19,319 to get a bunch of growth into your population, or switching over production to 1356 01:19:19,359 --> 01:19:23,960 get this building built really quick. That kind of micromanaging one of my favorite 1357 01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:26,600 things about that game. And I see those icons and it looks like it's 1358 01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:30,279 gonna be a very similar system, which I really enjoy. The pristy the 1359 01:19:30,399 --> 01:19:33,319 prestige system is what they called it here. I think this is a really 1360 01:19:33,359 --> 01:19:38,800 great idea. So basically in Civilization with the Past, even into like Civilization 1361 01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:42,680 six, there's always like a set of victory conditions, like that's how you 1362 01:19:43,279 --> 01:19:45,359 win the game. It's either you do the science of victory by building all 1363 01:19:45,399 --> 01:19:48,760 the spaceship parts and flying to the moon, or your culture You get the 1364 01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:53,399 culture victory because you had such a huge culture output that you're taking over the 1365 01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:56,520 world, or you could have the war one by just killing every other civilization. 1366 01:19:57,079 --> 01:20:00,159 But in this rather than having one set wing condition and you're playing a 1367 01:20:00,199 --> 01:20:01,720 game that's like, Okay, I guess I'm playing for science win this game, 1368 01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:04,119 or I'm playing for culture win this game. Instead, you're kind of 1369 01:20:04,159 --> 01:20:09,520 having like a cumulative score that's a combination of all these different things. So 1370 01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:13,800 now you're making like a Really it seems like you're gonna be incentivized for making 1371 01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:15,920 a I guess you could go still all into science if you want to, 1372 01:20:16,279 --> 01:20:19,399 But instead it seems like, Okay, I'm gonna try and balance out my 1373 01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:24,960 civilization and make sure I have a really balanced kingdom. And I think that's 1374 01:20:25,159 --> 01:20:30,039 very exciting and it's gonna make for a lot more variety than even SIEV five 1375 01:20:30,119 --> 01:20:32,439 had, which is a game that I love. They mentioned a crafting system, 1376 01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:34,960 which I've never really seen in a four X game like this, so 1377 01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:38,920 I don't know how to feel about that yet, but it seems like it 1378 01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:42,399 seems like a cool thing. I'm into it. They talked about the kind 1379 01:20:42,399 --> 01:20:45,319 of simultaneous turns, which is a big problem that SIV has always had a 1380 01:20:45,359 --> 01:20:49,000 really long waiting for enemy turns or if you're playing with a friend or playing 1381 01:20:49,039 --> 01:20:53,199 online, like just long ass turns waiting for people to do stuff. But 1382 01:20:53,239 --> 01:20:56,119 then the simultaneous stuff was like you could do it, but it was a 1383 01:20:56,159 --> 01:20:59,159 bit janky, and it seems like they've just kind of refined that here. 1384 01:20:59,399 --> 01:21:02,680 So everything about this, in every little way, all the little details are 1385 01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:06,319 like lining up for me that I I cannot wait for this because I've I've 1386 01:21:06,359 --> 01:21:09,199 played so much CIVI five at this point, and I still go back to 1387 01:21:09,239 --> 01:21:11,079 it every once in a while. It's just one of those evergreen games for 1388 01:21:11,199 --> 01:21:15,039 me. But I I just this feels like a sequel to CIV five, 1389 01:21:15,079 --> 01:21:17,319 and that's why it's so exciting. So I cannot wait for this. I 1390 01:21:17,359 --> 01:21:19,920 wish it was coming out sooner, but unfortunately it looks like it's coming out 1391 01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:23,560 in Fall, which I'm gonna be splitting my time between this and a vowed. 1392 01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:26,640 At that point, it looks like it's only gonna be PC coming out 1393 01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:30,640 in the Fall. I guess that makes sense. I didn't. I didn't 1394 01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:32,960 catch that in the direct. I was hoping they would have, you know, 1395 01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:38,880 console controls for this, but uh, yeah, man, I hope 1396 01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:42,760 this runs on my computer. If if not, man, it's definitely incentivized 1397 01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:45,640 me to upgrade that computer. I really really want to play this. I'm 1398 01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:47,600 just trying to look. I could see it being a thing that comes console 1399 01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:51,119 later. But always games like this, like control scheme has always been built 1400 01:21:51,159 --> 01:21:56,079 for keyboard and mouse. So but hopefully they get it over over to Xbox 1401 01:21:56,159 --> 01:21:59,000 at some point if it's if it's not their day one, yeah, just 1402 01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:01,279 because yeah, when you click on their website it has their page and it's 1403 01:22:01,319 --> 01:22:04,720 just coming Fall two twenty four and then PC and as the game pass stuff 1404 01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:08,399 like that. Because it was console, I would have I would have jumped 1405 01:22:08,399 --> 01:22:11,000 in because, like I said, I'm jumping up now as I hear you 1406 01:22:11,159 --> 01:22:14,479 talk about it more and like there's aspects, it's like, Okay, where 1407 01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:15,439 where's the place I want to jump into? So if it was on the 1408 01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:18,279 console, I would have I would have been jumping in for review here just 1409 01:22:18,359 --> 01:22:23,319 to try it out. Yeah okay, well because it's it has touchdowns and 1410 01:22:23,399 --> 01:22:26,079 things I like, and it's just thinking like okay, I gotta start somewhere, 1411 01:22:26,239 --> 01:22:30,000 right, So it's like, you know, i'd like to uh cause 1412 01:22:30,119 --> 01:22:31,920 like that's where it's to a very lesser degree. But don't want to talk 1413 01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:35,279 about my wrestling games the GM mode, like when you're talking about all the 1414 01:22:35,319 --> 01:22:40,359 little things you have to do, Like I love those type of games where 1415 01:22:40,399 --> 01:22:42,119 it's like, okay, do I got enough money for this? All this 1416 01:22:42,199 --> 01:22:45,680 superstar is not happy, Oh someone's injured, Okay, all this Arena's book, 1417 01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:46,319 Okay, what I do here? Okay, I can only do this 1418 01:22:46,359 --> 01:22:50,039 and that, like I love the whole Like I'm checking all my emails this 1419 01:22:50,319 --> 01:22:53,600 so like I know it's a different, but I like when you were describing 1420 01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:58,039 them like my, uh my brain's firing race. Yeah, it's like okay, 1421 01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:00,239 so keep me up there on that if we get any of that, 1422 01:23:00,279 --> 01:23:03,520 because I didn't maybe love the showcase, but you're selling more for me than 1423 01:23:04,239 --> 01:23:08,560 maybe I was anticipating. So yeah, no, I just think it was 1424 01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:12,119 one of those showcases that once again, like I said, like tackled every 1425 01:23:12,239 --> 01:23:15,680 element that I could possibly think of and they answered all those questions. So 1426 01:23:15,159 --> 01:23:17,680 and it was a game I didn't really know anything about either, So that's 1427 01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:20,079 like, that's why it's such a big shock for me, because I'm sure 1428 01:23:20,119 --> 01:23:23,600 I heard about the game I know is announced prior to this, but I 1429 01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:27,840 guess I hadn't paid attention because there's so many other CIV like games that come 1430 01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:30,800 out or announce and I'm always like somewhat interested, but there's always some part 1431 01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:33,720 that I'm not super into. So to have it in front of me here 1432 01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:38,319 because I'm going to tune into this Xbox thing and and get that breakdown in 1433 01:23:38,399 --> 01:23:41,720 like ten fifteen minutes, it was just perfect. It did because of your 1434 01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:44,840 talking about being announced. It did have an initial release date for twenty twenty 1435 01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:45,680 three, so at one point it sounds like, oh, maybe they were 1436 01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:50,079 hoping for earlier, but yeah, I got pushed back. So do those 1437 01:23:50,079 --> 01:23:55,640 CIV games they pop up on game Pass and stuff like that. I think 1438 01:23:55,760 --> 01:24:00,439 SIV six has potentially okay because they're on console, so I know six. 1439 01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:02,760 I mean I've seen like even because I know I had it like wish listed 1440 01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:06,239 on the switch, and I know it's gone on sale for like fifteen bucks 1441 01:24:06,319 --> 01:24:10,119 or something crazy, so you can get it. Those are games also that 1442 01:24:10,159 --> 01:24:13,720 have like a million DLC packs that you don't need, but they definitely enhance 1443 01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:15,520 it. But yeah, I don't know. I'll keep an eye out if 1444 01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:17,600 if I see one drop on the game passes open. Good, thank you. 1445 01:24:19,279 --> 01:24:26,520 Any any other thoughts on the history I'm told here no cool the last 1446 01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:30,399 game senu As Saga Helblay two. This is the one thing that actually got 1447 01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:33,159 a solid release date, and I feel like this is a seems like a 1448 01:24:33,199 --> 01:24:39,239 pretty solid one of May twenty first of this year. Yeah, I don't 1449 01:24:39,279 --> 01:24:43,000 think this is a game that we need to see in terms of we already 1450 01:24:43,039 --> 01:24:45,720 knew everything. I think we need to know about it, But I think 1451 01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:47,640 we did get some good details here recently. Recently it was the biggest thing. 1452 01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:50,960 But we also know that this is a a cheaper game. It's it's 1453 01:24:51,039 --> 01:24:56,079 fifty bucks fifty US dollars, a digital only game. Of course it's on 1454 01:24:56,199 --> 01:24:59,119 game Pass as well. They talked about how it is a shorter game, 1455 01:24:59,239 --> 01:25:01,199 so I think maybe they said like seven or eight hours is kind of what 1456 01:25:01,279 --> 01:25:05,520 you can expect here for playing through the story of this and then you know, 1457 01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:08,520 we saw a little bit of combat, We saw a little bit of 1458 01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:11,520 their studio and some of the mo cap and that sort of stuff behind the 1459 01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:14,000 scenes. But for me, it was really like, if they don't have 1460 01:25:14,039 --> 01:25:15,239 a release date here, what the heck you doing? They had their release 1461 01:25:15,319 --> 01:25:20,399 date, it's pretty soon. I I on all for shorter games. I 1462 01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:24,079 think it's cool too that they had a shorter game and they decided to price 1463 01:25:24,159 --> 01:25:27,159 it in that in the way that they feel as fair as well. I 1464 01:25:27,199 --> 01:25:29,880 think that's that's pretty cool. You see a lot of games that end up 1465 01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:33,279 being shorter but still charge that eighty ninety bucks, So I think it's cool 1466 01:25:33,319 --> 01:25:36,039 what they did here. So I can't wait for this. I still haven't 1467 01:25:36,039 --> 01:25:40,159 played the first game, but I know I was going to leading up to 1468 01:25:40,199 --> 01:25:42,439 this game. I just wanted to play it closer to the second one release, 1469 01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:44,800 and now that I have the release date, I'm sure I'll be playing 1470 01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:46,439 it pretty soon. And yeah, since this is a shorter game, I 1471 01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:49,520 will definitely play through it, and I think it looks fantastic. I like 1472 01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:54,359 the combat that they showed here. They talked about how you're gonna barely scrape 1473 01:25:54,359 --> 01:25:56,239 through every fight, and I think they really showed that, and I think 1474 01:25:56,279 --> 01:26:00,560 that's that's cool. I'm into that. I think that's that separates it from 1475 01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:04,680 other combat systems that we've seen recently. So I think it looks fantastic, 1476 01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:08,640 which is not surprising, and I'm excited for it to come up pretty soon. 1477 01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:13,039 Here, what's the date again, May first, May twenty first. 1478 01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:15,600 Yeah, I've always wanted to try this, so we'll see around that time 1479 01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:19,399 if I because I'd like I'm saying that you never did the first game because 1480 01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:24,039 I've said this before. Now it's different because they have uh oh god, 1481 01:26:24,079 --> 01:26:27,640 it's Kagmas game. It's OD right coming up like OD Xbox. I feel 1482 01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:30,600 like it is starting to venture different routes. But this is what I remember. 1483 01:26:30,279 --> 01:26:32,520 The first one came out on all consoles, right, and then the 1484 01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:36,159 thing I think it actually was a PlayStation exclusive for a bit before it came 1485 01:26:36,239 --> 01:26:39,479 Yeah, I think you're right timed. Yeah, And that's where for me, 1486 01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:44,039 the vibe everything about this game always feels like a PlayStation game. Like 1487 01:26:44,079 --> 01:26:48,119 to me, it's like the most Xbox PlayStation game they have, maybe change 1488 01:26:48,119 --> 01:26:51,800 it and a few other things because now they got like obviously they have a 1489 01:26:53,279 --> 01:26:57,840 god who they buy this year? Oh I not enough, who's the big 1490 01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:00,199 one? They've both Activision. I know that I'm saying, like that's like 1491 01:27:00,359 --> 01:27:04,880 a PlayStation game, but those are like Activision Blizzard games right like when the 1492 01:27:05,079 --> 01:27:09,840 Xbox because those become Xbox games now, even stuff like Blayward's Okay, this 1493 01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:12,840 could be a little bit different, but this feels like very much like a 1494 01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,119 Sony game. So yeah, what I saw here. Every time I've seen 1495 01:27:15,159 --> 01:27:18,720 this game, I enjoy what I see. I think I'm with you down 1496 01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:23,399 where this was the right time because this was like the cap of me seeing 1497 01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:26,920 it now of like I don't need to see anymore, and if you show 1498 01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:29,640 it again, it's almost too much and I get oversaturated on it. Now 1499 01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:30,399 it's like okay, and I'm sure we could see it here or there, 1500 01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:32,840 but like may that's for me. It's like, okay, that's just part 1501 01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:36,279 of now the marketing cycle of Kate. We're very close. We're three months 1502 01:27:36,319 --> 01:27:40,680 away, so yeah, I'm hope if there's time, because I was looking 1503 01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:44,359 at the schedule there, I'd like to dip my toes into because being sure 1504 01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:46,239 is good obviously it's on games Pascal, I check with you, But even 1505 01:27:46,239 --> 01:27:48,920 if it's not, it's fifty bucks, so like that's a nice thing too, 1506 01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:51,399 where it's like, hey, if you for some reason don't have that, 1507 01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:55,520 then it doesn't cost as much. And that's where it's like, to 1508 01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:58,760 me, it's fine if a game short as long as the quality's there. 1509 01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:01,000 It's the bummer when it I'm short and it sucks or it's just kind of 1510 01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:04,359 fine. And that's where it's like, I didn't really get anything here, 1511 01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:06,880 but from when I heard this first game and then what this looks like, 1512 01:28:08,239 --> 01:28:12,199 I feel like that, you know, eight nine, whatever hours it's gonna 1513 01:28:12,199 --> 01:28:15,880 be, looks like it'll be worth that experience. So yeah, I got 1514 01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:18,439 my eyes on this. This just comes down to just what is going on 1515 01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:23,199 around that time. But with it being games passed obviously it makes it a 1516 01:28:23,239 --> 01:28:26,359 bit easier. So we'll see. I potentially would like to, like I 1517 01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:29,800 said, dip my toes in the hell latency first game interest to be about 1518 01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:32,359 eight hours as well, so yeah, easy to catch up. Yeah, 1519 01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:39,359 any one, Taylor, any thoughts on this one? It I don't know 1520 01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:42,960 if this is my kind of game, no, but yeah, no, 1521 01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:47,119 Travis, you know me, And yeah, it's not my kind of game, 1522 01:28:47,399 --> 01:28:50,840 but I'm not gonna deny the fact that it just looks beautiful. And 1523 01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:57,399 I really I really enjoyed seeing this in this direct and seeing just the people 1524 01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:00,840 behind the scenes, like just doing the mo cap and the work that they're 1525 01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:03,079 investing into this game, because I could I could feel there's so much passion, 1526 01:29:03,199 --> 01:29:06,119 and I liked when they're the staff is coming together and saying like, 1527 01:29:06,159 --> 01:29:10,359 you know what, and it's a certain degree like I am Senua, and 1528 01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:14,760 they're also like I'm Senua. And and it's true because they all have created 1529 01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:19,039 this character. I'm sure they don't really like believe like I'm Senue. I'm 1530 01:29:19,079 --> 01:29:25,399 Senu. I'm sure. Yeah, it seems like a very traumatic character, 1531 01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:30,560 traumatic stories that would be sad. Well, yeah, and I think, 1532 01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:36,000 like I hope that there's well I'm sure that they're they're really reaching deep into 1533 01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:42,680 their individual souls to pull this pain that is just portrayed into this character that 1534 01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:45,720 they have to trek through and overcome. Then that's one of the greatest things 1535 01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:49,079 about video games is you can portray these these tribulations from your experiences and just 1536 01:29:49,279 --> 01:29:54,119 created an interesting story and engaging story that's emotional. But this just seems like 1537 01:29:54,159 --> 01:29:59,479 there's so much going on. That's just yeah, I mean, it's it's 1538 01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:02,560 there's definely individuals out there that are gonna love this game. I'm sitting with 1539 01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:09,479 them right now, and I'm just I'm not denying it's the game that What 1540 01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:13,600 does that even mean? Does that mean I'm sitting with them? Right? 1541 01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:17,199 I guess, But that's it. That's that's it's you guys. But yeah, 1542 01:30:17,199 --> 01:30:20,279 it's just it looks fantastic. We should do like an I am geek 1543 01:30:20,319 --> 01:30:23,479 first campaign, like for a nine year tenure, you know, all the 1544 01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:27,399 way that I'm saying, you know, I'm first, I'm geek first. 1545 01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:31,600 Let's workshop that. Let's workshop it. Okay, I think that that pretty 1546 01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:36,439 much does it for the showcase here. Any any final thoughts? Uh? 1547 01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:42,199 Any final thoughts here? No? I think this is a good show. 1548 01:30:42,319 --> 01:30:46,359 I like it. It's I am curious to ever see like you said they 1549 01:30:46,399 --> 01:30:50,039 did that one year Starfield, I'm curious to see one year well one because 1550 01:30:50,039 --> 01:30:53,119 you do this in the beginning, if they ever get to a point where 1551 01:30:53,119 --> 01:30:58,840 they do even to a year, and then because they have like the Xbox 1552 01:30:59,079 --> 01:31:01,960 Showcase the E three thing, and yeah, that's true. And then throughout 1553 01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:03,960 the year sometimes they just do like those I can't remember what they call, 1554 01:31:04,079 --> 01:31:06,880 but they sit down with developed like they're live on couches. Yeah, they 1555 01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:10,399 do stuff. They do all sorts of things. So I think it makes 1556 01:31:10,399 --> 01:31:13,399 sense, like to have boom start of the year, here's like four to 1557 01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:15,640 five games, really deep dive, and then the summer is when you get 1558 01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:18,960 just a shit ton of announcements and now you're right from that ship to an 1559 01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:21,439 announcement, it's pick four or five things to the next January. Like it's 1560 01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:25,439 a nice it's a nice cycle, and I hope they can stick to it. 1561 01:31:25,479 --> 01:31:27,560 They should. I mean, now that they have Activision Blizzard in there 1562 01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:30,439 too, they have a ton of studios to pick from. I'm sure they'll 1563 01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:32,239 always have games to show off. I was gonna say, yeah, this 1564 01:31:32,319 --> 01:31:34,720 is gonna be get beef here and Beef Furious. So for me, I 1565 01:31:35,119 --> 01:31:38,840 overall is the thumbs up. I didn't love everything here, but not because 1566 01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:41,960 of necessary like looking awful, just like it comes down to a certain taste. 1567 01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:44,840 But and I think it started right because start with a vow, didn't 1568 01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:46,439 it right? That was what the game they started with yeah, Vow, 1569 01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:51,279 Yeahvout, then hell Blade, then Visions than Are than Indy, right yeah, 1570 01:31:51,319 --> 01:31:54,399 And to me that was like the perfect wave. You start with a 1571 01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:56,600 Vowed, which is one of your bigger ones, you hope, and then 1572 01:31:56,640 --> 01:31:59,640 Indy, which is like a surprise one. I think that's the best way. 1573 01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:01,840 Like the it's just carbon copy of that every time, Middle be whatever. 1574 01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:04,600 But the first game always lead with something that's kind of been out there 1575 01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:08,720 already. People know some stuff, what's more details. Last game is that 1576 01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:11,640 Okay, here you know, you know it's out there, but here's you 1577 01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:14,920 know, the full reveal of it. So no, I thought it was 1578 01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:20,119 a good show overall. Nice, nice Taylor, good over there. Yeah 1579 01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:24,399 yeah, I I like I said, it was slow at the start, 1580 01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:29,079 but it just it picked up for me moving on when we got into some 1581 01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:35,880 RTS and some Indiana Jones. So that's that's definitely that was up my alley. 1582 01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:39,079 Getting into that back half of this show, it really started to pick 1583 01:32:39,119 --> 01:32:42,159 it up for me. But yeah, I mean, as you guys already 1584 01:32:42,159 --> 01:32:45,239 said, I mean, it's it's January. This is just kind of kickstarting 1585 01:32:45,319 --> 01:32:48,000 wants to come and just build some hype for the for the year, and 1586 01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:54,319 yeah, yeah, thank you ever for listening. Let us know what you 1587 01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:58,000 were hyped for from this, and yeah, next week, I think Taylor 1588 01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:00,159 will be joining me. We'll talk about I don't even know next week's topic 1589 01:33:00,159 --> 01:33:02,039 A little up in the air. I'm sure we'll come up with something fun, 1590 01:33:02,079 --> 01:33:04,159 though, so make sure to tune in. Thank you ever for listening. 1591 01:33:04,159 --> 01:33:06,439 We'll see you next time. Bye bye bye