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You're listening to KFI A six on
demand. Ernie, thank you for being

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so patient. Welcome to the Jesus
Christ Show. Good morning. My name

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is Ernie and I from Los Angeles. Yesterday I experienced a get in the

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family. My granddaddy passed away at
one hundred and two. Now, throughout

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the last four to five days,
I was at the hospital comforting him and

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making him feel as comfortable as I
can. My question is the dying process

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was very difficult for me because of
him. His kidneys were going now and

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his lungs were flaring out. Everything
is just shutting down in his body.

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My question is why did it takes
so long for God to comfort him?

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Well, I understand that question comes
from a very emotional place and rightly so.

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As you watch someone like that go
through that process of decay and death,

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it's incredibly painful. But you have
to look at the overall scheme of

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things. Some people might ask,
my goodness, he lived to one hundred

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and two. There's a lot of
living in there, and there's many people

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that would love that extra twenty maybe
thirty years than what they got. So

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there's a lot of questions, But
keep in mind that you are brought into

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this world by the pain of someone
else, and you'll leave this world in

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your own pain. And both of
these both of these truths are to be

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seen in their proper context. And
if you want some specific philosophical reason as

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to why your one hundred and two
year old grandfather suffered for twenty eight days

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or so while in the hospital,
I don't know that I'm going to be

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able to give you one, or
at least one that would satisfy you.

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But I will tell you there is
always a purpose and there's things to be

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learned, whether it's the questions that
you're asking now, whether it's the process

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of understanding that life is temporal and
there is pain involved. There is also

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the understanding of pain and suffering and
what kind of purpose it has not only

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on the individual, but the people
around them. If this is not the

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first time your grandfather suffered, now, this may have been the last time,

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but it wasn't the first time.
People suffer throughout their lives, and

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I guarantee a person of one hundred
and two years of age has gone through

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a lot of suffering in their life
and seen a lot of things both worldwide

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and in their own lives. So
suffering is one of those things that people

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kind of want to run from,
and it really is part of the process.

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I say throughout Scripture, and you're
going to suffer. I suffered,

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You're going to suffer. It's going
to be a part of being human.

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Now it makes more sense when you
see someone kind of suffer and then go

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on with their life and maybe grow
from that suffering or understand it when it

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comes at the end. It's a
legitimate question. You look around Ernie and

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you go, well, what can
be learned of it? He's dying,

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where is he taking that? And
the best way to explain it is that

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your life is a refining process.
It is a path that God has you

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on to refine you unto the moment
of death for heaven. And whether there

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was something more to be learned by
your grandfather, something more to be learned

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by you and the others around him, is for God to know and explain

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when you stand before him. Because
the entire process of refinement and the if

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you look at and think of it
as metal being refined, it's heated to

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an intense degree to where all the
dirt and imperfections come to the surface and

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then the blacksmith will scrape the dross
off the top and continue to heat it

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up again and continue to do that
until it's as pure as possible. And

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life is the same way. And
in that process, even unto death,

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that process is going on, that
process of refinement and understanding. And whether

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your grandfather could say it or not, or was experiencing something, you don't

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know. It's between him and his
maker and the things that are going on,

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and the learning process that is taking
place goes on to this moment of

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death, and it should not be
assumed otherwise. Yet it's never going to

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be easy to watch. It wasn't
easy to watch when he would suffer in

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life, let alone suffer in death. Correct, it's correct. Thank you

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so much to help me understand a
lot better. You're welcome, and you

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go in peace with that, Ernie. I'm sorry for your loss. I

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think that as a wonderful celebration of
a life. One hundred and two years

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is an amazing an amount of time, and to live and to touch countless

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of lives yourself one hundred and two
years, including the life of his grandson.

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You, Ernie, who had to
watch that, And I'm sorry for

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that. Pain in the sense that
I understand what it feels like and looks

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like to be around it. However, the biggest, the biggest part of

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the picture is that there's more to
it than that pain, and that pain

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is actually points to the preciousness of
life and the importance of life and the

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vibrancy of life. Otherwise that pain
wouldn't matter. It only matters because life

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is precious and people are precious,
and the time that you have here,

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whether it's seventy eighty ninety or one
hundred and two years, is precious.

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And even in that suffering, I
know the world is kind of trying to

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go to this place where nobody should
suffer. But I say in scripture,

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you will suffer as I have suffered, And it has a purpose, all

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of it, whether you know it
or not, whether you learn it or

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not. The purpose in this case
might have been for your grandfather, might

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have been for you, might have
been for others. But all suffering has

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a purpose. If for nothing else, then to understand that it will happen,

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and that God said it will happen. Jessica, Welcome to the Jesus

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Christ Show. Hello, Hi Jessica, Hi, how can I help you

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this kind of question up guarding and
my husband, we've been married for like

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eleven years now and we have two
children, and occasionally he will not occasionally,

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it's been pretty often where he likes
to he's an alcoholic and he likes

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to drink. And it's getting to
the point where I don't let him watch

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each other while I'm at work anymore, and he kind of bullies them and

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he's just a whole different person,
and I just he's apologized many times,

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but I'm just still set up that
I don't know what to do because it's

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just it's like black and white with
him. He can be so normal and

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then they could totally change him around. It's just, yeah, alcohol can

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do that. This what's his what's
his alcoholic choice by the way, beer?

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Yeah, beer, okay? And
how much would you say he drinks

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on an average day? Well,
recently it's just well sometimes it's once a

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week, sometimes it's a couple of
times a week or every other week.

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And is it a six pack that
he drinks? Is a twelve pack that

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he drinks in one sitting? Maybe
three or four? Take too much?

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Okay? And has he ever been
through a program? Has he ever been

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to AA or anything like that.
No, just through cool order. But

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he didn't. He just went because
you know he had to. Oh he's

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been court ordered in the past.
Yeah, and why did that come about?

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Did he get a duy or what
happened? Oh? Yeah, he

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has several do you wuys? He
just felt like he had to go.

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Wow. So that puts uh,
that puts you in a pretty horrible position.

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What is your question for me this
morning? Just your advice on whether

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what to do because it's just like, I feel like he's almost another child

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that I'm taken care of and he
just takes up a lot of my energy.

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And has he ever hit you or
the children? Yes? You or

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the children are both me, but
like he tries to teach him how to

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fight when he's strong, but it's
just not safe. Oh wow, sure,

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I understand. It's the most important
thing is that you protect yourself and

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those children. And if you feel
it's an unsafe environment, or you feel

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that he's violent or that he has
a problem, you can give him the

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ultimatum to take care of it or
that you're gonna go. Yeah. You

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you can't just sit there and wait
till something happens. Ugly. If he's

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a good man outside of that situation, then you need to do everything in

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your power to get him outside of
that situation. And that is whether it's

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an ultimatum or what have you.
If you think that an ultimatum would throw

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him into rage, then you need
to get out of that home. And

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he has a severe problem, and
it sounds like he knows he does,

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and he's wrestling with it, and
he needs to get somewhere where somebody can

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help him go through the process.
But don't put yourself and those children in

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danger. Because you are the sober
one. You have the ability to see

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what's going on, and that makes
you accountable to make sure it doesn't happen.

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James, Welcome to the Jesus Christ. Yes, sir, The question

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I have for you is a lot
of churches teach that tiding as a requirement,

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and a lot of people put their
members under that system and tell them

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it's a necessity. And of course, over time I run across a lot

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of people they have trouble paying it, They can't afford to pay it,

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they have a lot of troubles,
and they feel like they can't move forward

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in ministry because they cannot perform this
financial obligation obligation exactly. And when I

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went to study the scriptures, I
determined that this is something there's not a

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requirement for today's New Testament Christian correct
And so I want to kind of get

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your thoughts on why so many churches
teach this doctor in which if you really

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read scripture, it says anybody that
justifies themselves by the law actually becomes a

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curse. Well in this particular,
and that's a that's a whole different discussion

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unto itself. I will I'll answer
for the sake of time, looking at

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tithing, this concept of a tenth
in Hebrew, and you'll find in the

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Old Testament was a command that was
for the purpose of giving back that which

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you receive and having and making sure
that that you're giving back to the people

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of God and the things of God. Yeah, in this particular case,

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you can reference Psalm twenty four to
one, and also Malachi three eight through

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ten, But that does change.
As a matter of fact, throughout scripture.

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You'll see that there's no place where
where I reference, you know,

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tithing that it needs to be done. And I don't say that the disciples

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have to do it. There's no
record concerning any of the New Testament writers

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saying that there's this Christian tithe or
anything like that. The early Church practiced

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sharing of material goods First Corinthians sixteen
one, in two Ephesians four twenty eight,

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that's kind of the model. Also, you're asked to be a living

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sacrifice for God in Romans twelve one
and two, and to give materially as

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the Lord leads you to give tewod
Corinthians eight one through five. If you

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are in a church, and you
are a member of a church, you

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should be giving, just because if
you're not, you're taking from that church.

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You're going and you're receiving, whether
it's air conditioned or not, or

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any of these things, you're taking
from that church, and you should be

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giving back to that particular community,
part of your community. As far as

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giving the tie, the ten percent
is, you know, a great way

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for people to kind of get it
in their head that this is a good

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standard. I think that's mostly why
churches still refer to it as a tithe

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and still give the ten percent.
If you want to do the mathematics of

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it all, it really comes out
to if you go through Scripture about twenty

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one percent. But the purpose of
tithing is just to get yourself in the

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mindset that when you're receiving, you
should be giving, and if you're partaking

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in a church and you should be
giving back. It's not that God needs

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the money. God doesn't need your
money. It's that the church does to

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continue to work and to do good
things, and to give to others and

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all of those things. So don't
take, don't steal from the church.

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However, if if ten percent is
what helps you do ten percent, but

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if you could give more, Bible
essentially says give till it hurts. We

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have just a little bit of time. If you do have a question,

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I don't know that we'll be able
to get to it. So I won't

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give the phone numbers. We'll deal
with what we have on the board right

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now. We were actually chatting with
Jeff. He was asking about people that

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die early. If life is about
progressing, learning, understanding, then if

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someone dies early, what does that
mean? So you're back with us,

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Jeff, I am, thank you. So the first one I shared with

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you is one of the theories that
the belief is. As I talked about

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different people with physical ability going to
a gym. There are some that are

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are going to get built more quickly, and there's some that are going to

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take longer. And there are those
that theorize that someone that gets taken early

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doesn't need as much time here,
and then there's people that poo poo that,

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And quite honestly, it is the
belief of this program that it's about

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being accountable for the time that you
have, not having enough time to become

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accountable. So if somebody gets taken
early, it's about what they do with

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that information of that time. Obviously, if they're very very young, they're

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not conflicting with any of those but
they're also not stepping in the same traps

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that pull them away from God in
the same way. In the same sense,

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younger people are more adaptive and connected
to God than people who become cynical

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or go through different stages of their
life as they get older. So in

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that sense, I think is a
big picture thing that there are those that

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it's really about where you are being
accountable for where you are in that moment,

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rather than gosh, I finally had
ten more days I could get this

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right. That's not what you're being
judged against. So everyone has the lessons

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that they need to know or the
things that they need to know, and

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for however long you live, you're
going to be going through different lessons.

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But that doesn't mean if you have
a shorter life, you're not getting lessons

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or understanding or connecting with God in
any way, shape or form. Okay,

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well, it seems like there'd be
a difference there because young people,

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say, if they were eight years
old, wouldn't be learning things that they

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need to learn. And you would
have to do that to have the perfection

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that heaven is supposed to be our
life here on earth. You would have

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to have some sort of way of
learning to be able to respond in a

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different way. Or maybe I'm just
not understanding what happened. No, an

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eight year old doesn't have the conflict
either. The eight year old is not

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going up against all of the philosophical
conflicts with the concept they believe. There's

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a wonderful magician who was a friend
of the show. He passed away,

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and his name was Dean Dill,
and he was a beautiful man and a

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Christian, and he taught magic to
all kinds of people, including people like

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Johnny Carson and the like, and
was believed to be a magician's magician and

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did parties and all kinds of things
like that. And he was asked to

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do a party for a five year
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with my producer Neil, he said
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Neil asked him why, and he
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The kids aren't surprised because everything's already
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There hasn't been anything that has pressed
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who they are, so they're already
in that state. So the process of

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learning on this earth is an important
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and connectivity and things like that,
and that comes in different stages, in

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different ways for different people. And
it doesn't mean that if you're here till

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eighty years that there's still things you
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What it means is, as long
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be learning. It's not like you
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talk about that. My producer Neil
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heaven. That's that next step.
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classes or things like that. That's
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about however long you're here to continue
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things. Heaven is going to be
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But God, the belief is is
if you are connecting with God in this

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world with everything pulling you away,
that you will get a clear picture and

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a connection with God and when you're
in heaven. But those things are individual

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and different based on you know,
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it don't think of it as you
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you've got to check these certain things
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certain time in your life, yes
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you don't need them to be a
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form. So somebody that passes away
younger are still a whole person in an

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in every way, shape or form, and have been tested in one way

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or another to show their beliefs or
their understanding. It's about Remember, it's

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about acceptance or rejection. It's not
about ignorance. So it's about being accountable

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for what you do know, not
for what you don't know, Pam,

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Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Hi. How are you? I am

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well? How are you well?
I mean great? This question is bigger

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than myself. I'll do my best
to ask it. I'm a little naive

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in the word, but I'm a
big believer in you. So my question

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is, how does the possibility of
life in other galaxies working with the scripture

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of God created the heavens and the
earth. I mean, because there's science

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and there God's word evolution. It
just that whole area to kind of confuse

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me, and it's interesting at the
same time kind of get a sense of

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what I'm asking. So you are
about life on other planets or about well,

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like, how does how does it
figure into scripture and working with the

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theory of evolution versus God creating the
heavens and the earth? And he said

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science is perfect, but scientists aren't. And I like the science idea of

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evolution. Yeah, but I'm also
in the beliefs that God created heavens in

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the earth. Well, there's I
want to explain, there's something else.

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There's mishmash. Yeah, there's stuff
that people tie together. There is something

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called theistic evolution. This show doesn't
focus a whole lot on that. My

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producer, Neil is not a huge
fan of it, because you have to

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understand, there's that evolution is a
theory, and I know that you'll get

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some people now going, oh,
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I say that because there is not
one form of evolution. There's not an

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agreement that scientists have come to.
There are parts of it that they have

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come to and that they believe took
place, but there isn't one theory of

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evolution, and most your average everyday
person is ignorant of that. They use

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the term and they don't usually even
know what it means. There are many

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theories as to what took place,
how it took place, why it took

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place, where it took place.
So, and you're dealing with special and

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general types of evolution, So don't
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okay. Adaptation is that within its
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For instance, if you put humans
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darkness, they would adapt by modifying
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the skin. They would lose the
melanin or it would go to very

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small levels. Their eyes would probably
glaze over, the muscles would weaken,

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and they wouldn't use them or need
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know, you see this skin color, there's only one color of skin.

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There's only one color of humanity,
and that's melanin. And there are people

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with more of it and people with
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color. There's only one true race, the human race. And any modifications

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of nose, eyelids, hair,
things like that are adaptations. They're not

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evolutionary breaks. There's no group that's
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There's adaptations within that great group.
For areas, the Inuit people will

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have a little more fatty tissue above
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very cold environments. Things like that. That's adaptation. Evolution is if one

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thing jumps a kind or a phylum
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whole different thing. So there's there's
no Christian there shouldn't be that doesn't believe

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in adaptation. That would be silly. People adapt all the time, but

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within different phylums or jumping or branching
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celled you know, amba jumping to
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becoming a lizard, becoming a human. That's a different concept. So it

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depends where you land on that and
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I said, I think it's one
every five years there is a a council

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of sort where scientists get together to
discuss the concept of evolution. So it's

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not something that they have landed completely
on. And this is like, this

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is the model because it changes.
The original model by Charles Darwin does not

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exist. It never exists, never
panned out. So there's different models that

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are based on that throughout the years, and it depends what you land on

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as to whether it would fit in
scripture. Some of it fits absolutely,

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But in Genesis when it talks about
creation, it's talking about building or creating

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animals unto their kind, which means
they wouldn't cross violins, so that there's

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a hard place to bring that into
scripture. But there are other adaptations and

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things like that that wouldn't conflict with
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Okay, so life on other planets, if that were to be true.

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Now life on other planets is a
different story because now you get into the

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problem of salvation. So because I
came, and I even said I'm glad

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that I came as a human and
not as an angel, because I'm here

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to redeem mankind. Right, So
now you would have the problem if life

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was on other planets. It is
it human? If it's human, is

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it sinful? If it's not sinful? Why if it is sinful, then

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it needs to be redeemed. If
it needs to be redeemed, now,

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how is it going to be redeemed? Do I go to every planet and

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become like them to redeem them and
dine in across or somehow on every single

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planet. Did my death on this
planet cover other planets? It opens up

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a lot of questions that are I
think, highly problematic for Christianity. And

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if they found life like humanity,
not just well it looks like there's some

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you know, watermarks on this planet, but real genuine life. Hello,

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how are you take me to your
leader life? There could be significant problems

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with Christianity, and I know a
lot of people don't want to face that,

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and a lot of people that love
our buddy George Nori and all that

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might think differently. But that's that's
the theological reality. I know that on

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talk radio you hear all kinds of
things throughout the week. They can bring

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it down or be heavy stuff.
But I hope this show is a respite,

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a place where you can gather sanctuary
for your thoughts and for ideas of

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growth and inspiration. I just ask
one thing of you. I asked this

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of you during this time of year, to focus in on each other.

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And I don't mean just your immediate
family, but your neighbors and the people

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around you. And find that time
that place of courtesy, like go above

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and beyond to be courteous to each
other, whether it's on the roads or

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at the grocery store, whatever it
is, do just a little bit extra

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and show those lines of hope and
those those opportunities to say, hey,

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we're all in this together right as
humans, you need to connect with one

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another and to show that love to
one another. God sees that. God

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wants you to do it. God
asks you to count all things joy,

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James One, to consider it pure
joy whenever, whenever or you face trials.

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I know you're going through things now. First Thessalonians five eighteen to give

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thanks an all circumstance and to find
that peace during the holiday season, no

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matter which the holiday you may be
celebrating, to find that peace to be

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a conduit of joy and happiness and
hope. And in that and in that

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hope, it spreads. I assure
you, like a wildfire, bringing people

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peace, pointing them in a direction, helping them out somewhere, whatever it

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may be, go the extra mile, push forward, doing things, and

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that's what brings consistency and happiness,
every single individual coming together and saying,

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hey, I'm going to look out
for you, you look out for me.

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I'm going to help you, you
help me, and being there for

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each other. It's as corny as
it may seem. I know you hear

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a lot of people yelling and screaming
into this very microphone. But I will

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tell you that what I'm telling you
now is at the center of it all.

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How you treat one another and how
you produce and perpetuate hope. That's

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the only thing that's going to help. Otherwise you can scream to your red

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in the face, nothing's going to
change. So do that. Find ways

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to help people to do nice things, to be kind, to reassure people,

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to be loving no matter who they
are, agree or disagree any of

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that stuff, and the world will
be a better place, I assure you,

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and remember these simple words. I
am with you always. KFI AM

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sixty on demand

