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A passionate instigator and dynamic problem solver. Doctor Kevin ross Emery, the host

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of the Doctor Kevin Radio Show,
will be taking you outside the box,

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behind the curtain and identifying the load
of bs we are fed every day.

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And now Doctor Kevin, Hello,
Hello, hello, and welcome to the

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Doctor Kevin Show here on Owned Times. I wanted to remind everybody this is

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the third Thursday of the month,
which means that we lift our eyes,

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look at the skies and go,
holy crap. Is that what's going on

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now? As we work with our
guide and astrological genius Rob Stewart from Intercenterastrology

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dot Com. That's Inner Center Astrology
dot Com. Is he takes all those

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moving stars and planets and tells us
how they're going to influence us so that

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we can best ride the storm or
enjoy the funny weather, because it's always

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a mixed bag of everything. So
we as we go into planetary influences for

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this month, remember that all we're
going to do is give you the astrological

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weather forecast and you decide what to
do with it. Also joining is Ashley

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Oldstein, who Ashley and I have
a lot of exciting stuff coming up in

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the future. But tonight is all
about astrology and the planetary influences. So

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before I turn it over to Rob
Ashley, any thoughts, questions, ideas

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that you'd like to share with the
audience before we prop Rob up on the

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pedestal and let him throw pearls to
the pearls to this line, pearls of

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wisdom. I am looking forward to
hearing about the forecast astrologically coming up this

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month. Whether or not I need
an umbrella. I'm thinking more maybe ice

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cleat and an extra layer of clothes. But we'll see what Rob has to

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say. Rob, everybody, Happy
New Year. I twenty four. So

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it is twenty twenty four, the
year astrologically where the world ends. Should

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we be, you know, dancing
our last dance and you know, getting

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the poll out for the last line. No, I don't. I don't

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think so at all, but I
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is certainly from my perspective anyway,
a year of a lot of you know,

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transformation, as as every year is
and growth and all that, you

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know. I think it'll be an
interesting years, as election years always are,

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obviously, but this one, this
one is interesting for sure, well,

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if I remember correctly from last month, and we'll talk about it more

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in the last segment of the show, because I do want to hear what

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the new movements are going on in
the planet. That we're going to have

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some pretty powerful Plutonian influences in this
election coming up in twenty twenty four.

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That's right, if I remember correctly, Yeah, that's true as well.

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Yep, yeah, yeah, there's
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energy that as a country that the
United States is moving through. Know,

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many people are aware of a solar
return. You know, a solar return

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occurs on your birthday, and it's
when the sun returns to the same location

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in the the sky in which you
were born. And but collectively the United

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States is moving through the Pluto return, and it's it's we're just about out

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of that, we've been through it, but we're still going through it in

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a lot of different ways. And
the sort of the transformation that's that's occurring

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collectively. But yeah, sometimes sometimes
you know, because we have Pluto doing

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all of these retrogrades, and that's
when the planet looks like it's going backwards

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in the sky. One of the
things is is that until it really gets

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its legs into moving forward. And
you know, again we'll go more into

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this in the end of the segment, but you know, Pluto is with

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it changing signs. That's you know, that's kind of a I feel the

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Earth move under my feet kind of
moment when it gets fully geared up into

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its next sign and it takes on
its next part of history for it to

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shape and form. And but until
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it's a lot of yeah, yeah, oh yeah, no, yeah,

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not quite yeah, yeah, no, no, yep, yep,

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yep, maybe and then suddenly it's
like, oh, a new day has

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dawned and there's the new energy and
it's in place. Fair assessment, Yeah,

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absolutely fair And yeah, I think
we'll be talking quite a bit about

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Pluto today and I'll just dive right
in. But so on, on January

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twentieth, the Sun will enter Aquarius, and basically is the Sun transits these

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different constellations throughout the year. You
know, there's the twelve constellations, is

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very similar to the twelve months of
the year, although they don't line up

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exactly with the calendar months precisely.
But the Sun will be entering the sign

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of Aquarius on January twentieth, and
Aquarius is the eleventh sign in the zodiac.

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And Aquarius is really a process of
perfecting that individuality in each of us,

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that that aspect of ourselves that that
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friends, society, culture, And
it's that sort of reconnecting with that inner

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truth and being with that inner truth
and embodying that inner truth in a way

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that in which we put aside conformity
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so there's this real themes with Aquarius
of breaking free from conformity pressures. But

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at its heart it's it's this individuation
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mind to see things more clearly and
you know, outside the limited condition to

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self, that sort of thing.
Now, you know, the Aquarius has

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a few sort of commitments energetically and
its themes. The first is the truth

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of personal truth and connecting with those
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people of your own tribe so to
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of weirdos that are similarly weird that
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your tribe. That's a real Aquarium
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is with Aquarius is a commitment to
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you know, not subjective, but
objective, and seeing things more clearly

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from a higher lens and removing oneself
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a real Aquarium type of thing.
So Aquarius is oftentimes associated with humanitarian efforts,

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large shifting and transformations of the world
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of thing. And so with Aquarius
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talked about with Aquarius is sort of
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thing and really helping the world shift
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what Aquarius is is doing. And
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alienating yourself. Oftentimes one can feel
like an outcast when one honors their inner

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truth. And so some of the
ways in which that we might find ourselves

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tripping over ourselves with Aquarius is alienating
ourselves or feeling like an outcast, or

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believing you're an outcast, even though
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way, but it's not inherently true. It's you know, we're all here,

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we're being here, and it's a
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born, we're supposed to be here. So of course we're not you know,

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outcasts or anything of that sort of
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And so these are some of the
big themes with the Sun and Aquarius.

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And as doctor Kevin mentioned, we're
entering in a period where the Pluto

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is entering Aquarius. And another theme
with Aquarius is technology and navigating genius type

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of air qualities, Aquarius being an
air sign. And so the last time

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in Doctor Kevin you mentioned, well, I should first say that the Sun

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is entering Aquarius on the same day
that Pluto is, and so there's this

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both the Sun and Aquarius will be
moving into both the Sun and Pluto will

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be moving into Aquarius within a day. And it's a very unique time and

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very interesting timing. And so the
archetype of that is really to shine light

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on our own gosh shadow. Pluto
represents a shadow, It represents our own

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wounding. It represents the journey through
which we are transforming empowering ourselves through navigating

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elements that perhaps we considered darkness in
our own psyche. The wounded aspects of

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ourselves, the wounded aspects and society
that sort of thing. And so January

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twentieth January twentieth first is an interesting
period of time, but it really the

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bigger thing is that Bluto entering Aquarius
for the next twenty years. And the

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last time that Pluto entered Aquarius was
in March, just this past year.

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It dabbled into Aquarius and then it
retrograded back out, and then we were

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in Capricorn, which we talked quite
a bit about last show. Very fascinating

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Pluto and Capricorn. But we're entering
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want to say is that back in
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March when Pluto entered Aquarius, maybe
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I was looking at the news,
you know, like just sifting through some

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things that were occurring. That's when
chat GPT four was launched, and there

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was all this conversation and narrative about
AI, the implications of AI, this

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tremendous thing that humanity will have to
navigate. And so that to me is

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a real sneak peek of what Pluto
and Aquarius will bring with Pluto. It

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brings up the challenges of course,
and with Aquarius, like I mentioned technology,

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the feeling disassociating from our own emotions
is a really Aquarium theme. That's

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something that can be a challenge sometimes
with Aquarius, but also navigating all this

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technology and all this forward thinking and
the challenges associated with that. So I

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want to stop there. I want
to allow you guys time to share your

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thoughts and all this so far,
Ashley thought, well, you know,

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I'm absorbing all of this. It's
more of me learning as you're talking,

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both of you. But I do
find it very interesting about March of last

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year, and I can't wait to
go back in my calendar and find out

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what was going on personally then,
because it seems like a pretty important and

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shift that's happened, and I'm curious
to see how it ripples through to present

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day. Yeah, you know,
And one of the things I want to

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highlight for people, and you know, I've said this before on the Planetary

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Influence show, and I'm going to
reiterate it this time, which is,

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if you're tuning into this show and
you don't have your astrology chart in front

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of you, if you got one
off the Internet, but you really don't

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understand what it is. And you
were to reach out to Rob through Innercenter

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Astrology and actually and that's Inner Center
Astrology dot com and actually get your chart

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done and have them explain those things
that, especially where we're talking about something

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that is going to be a major
change in the weather and Pluto moving after

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twenty years in one sign to firmly
never go back into that sign and only

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go forward is a major change in
the weather. And if you don't have

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access to your chart, you're not
going to see kind of what areas of

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your life are going to be most
affected by that, so to speak.

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And so the other thing I want
to say is that objective Aquarius. And

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I don't know Rob if you do
this, but I always have this association

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in my mind between Sagittarius and Aquarius, and part of that is that blunt

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truth. And it's blunt oftentimes because
it by being an objective it we're much

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more comfortable with gray than black and
white. And I look at that aquarium,

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the objective truth that sometimes may come
across as critical, or it could

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come across as judgmental, that it
may come across as not having a lot

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of compassion, and yet this is
the this is the house. We also

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associate with friendships and things like that, and yet, believe it or not,

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the best friendships are the ones that
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you know, I always remember this
phrase from my former business partner Dara,

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which she which he always says,
you know, some friendships are just you

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know, I'll buy your bullshit if
you buy my bullshit, and then we'll

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all sit and the shit and feel
good together. And that's not an auer

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and that's not an aquarium trade,
and so it can be a little in

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your faith. I was also thinking
of the chat the chap GP thing,

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because can you really program emotions into
the written word if you don't have any

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emotions you're putting into them? You
know, is there something that is undefinable

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that when somebody writes something where they
convey something and it's interwoven in a way

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where it's more than just the words. I don't know how either of you

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feel about that, but as somebody
who is a writer, I feel like

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there is an indefined something. So
I just want to throw all that out

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and get any feedback you Rob or
Ashley have on that. Yeah, no,

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it's very interesting, you know,
and I agree with what you said

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about Aquarius and regarding the truth and
objective and sometimes that's done without feelings and

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not least with not driven by the
feelings, and with anything that you know,

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there's two sides of that sword,
you know, there's two there's a

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blade on both sides of that,
you know, the two sides of that

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coin and the beauty of objectivity,
but then also the very when done out

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of alignment, can be very harsh, cold and lacking compassion and so and

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I think you touched upon all that, and those are those are things energies

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for us all to be mindful of. And the chat GPT, like you

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said, it's a great example of
that. And I think the chat GPT

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and the AI is very interesting and
of course the potential for a fantastic school.

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But I have a lot of reservations. It's it's unavoidable, of course,

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but it's a at its heart,
it's a tremendous tool. The difficulty

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is that it's only you know,
we're here in a world that's been somewhat

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the product of our thinking and our
consciousness. And chat GPT, as I

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understand it is using the collective consciousness
and information and intellect that's been dispensed up

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to this point. And so basically, you know, here we are in

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a world where where the world is
demanding a change in consciousness, a shift

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in consciousness, a shift in understanding
who and what we are in our place

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and our connection, our interconnectedness,
and and you know, there's there's clearly

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going to be some really wonderful things
that come out of AI. The challenge

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and the reservations I have is that
that this is using the consciousness we've graded

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here on Earth up until now.
You know, that's what's driving all of

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this, uh Ai, and in
a world that is needing a shift in

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consciousness and understanding who and what we
are, because when that changes, then

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the thinking changes. And so it's
it's a very very interesting point where we're

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at in the world. The other
thing is that AI is, I think

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it will really press the issue of
what is consciousness itself versus what is the

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thinking mind? Because AI, as
I understand it, and I'm very limited

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understanding of it at this point,
to be honest, but AI is more

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of that sort of the thinking mind, more analogous to ego rather than consciousness.

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Itself and simple awareness and that I
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so I think AI is really going
to push the issue of what is consciousness

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versus what is narrative? What is
thinking? What is all that? These

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these aren't necessarily these aren't the same
thing in my mind? You know that

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that quote, I think because I
am it is not entirely how I've learned

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to understand the world through many of
the the teachings I've well, it's more,

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you know, I am aware,
I am conscious, and that's because

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I am you know. Anyways,
Yeah, I'll hand it over to you.

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Well, one of my concerns on
this, and then I have a

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practical question for you, and I
also want to make sure that Ashley has

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a chance to weigh in. Is
really since the nineteen fifties, there has

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been a huge emphasis on the homogenization
and pasteurization of the human in developed countries,

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in first world countries. Since the
fifties, we keep on getting these

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high bred, homogenized, pasteurized people. That is what is normal and how

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we're supposed to look, and how
we're supposed to dress, and how we're

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supposed to act, and how we're
supposed to be and you know, whether

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it's chocolate milk or plain milk,
or vanilla milk or strawberry milk, you're

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supposed to be homogenized and pasteurized underneath
it. You're supposed to fit in and

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be part of the thing where if
either one of you have had raw milk,

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it has a much stronger flavor and
it's much more distinctive, and you'd

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never you'd never drink a goat's milk
and think, oh, this is just

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like what I buy in the store
in the carton. It has a different

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flavor, it has a certain authenticity
and uniqueness, and homogenized and pasteurized.

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Its whole goal is to get rid
of uniqueness. It's supposed to make everything

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standard, fit a standard size.
I mean, we started this in the

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early nineteen hundreds with the conveyor belt, and then we started really applying the

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conveyor belt to humanity in the fifties. And I look at chat you know

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that the chat GP stuff is another
step in trying to read out uniqueness and

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individuality and make us one step closer
to being homogenized, pasteurized and basically,

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as they used to say, milk
toast. Ashley thoughts, you know I'm

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touching on what both of you said. And I think that going back to

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can chat, GBT and AI convey
feelings with words or bring through feelings,

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I Robbie use the words out of
alignment, and this kind of goes back

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to the homogenized part. Also is
that the way I look at at the

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way we communicate is when you're in
alignment and being in your authentic self and

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really kind of calling upon you know, divine and all of that to move

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through you. Is when you can
communicate at your best because you've got the

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help of your whole team. And
AI doesn't have that, So it's going

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to be missing that that piece.
It will never feel the same way.

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It won't feel authentic, it will
feel homogenized. And I think the whole

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AI art thing is also interesting.
I don't know all that much about it.

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I haven't dealt into it very deep, but it's not provoking in and

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of itself, So I think it's
forcing us all to look at the way

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we express ourselves in a different way. Yeah, no, absolutely, go

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ahead, doctor Kevin. So one
of the things that I again, I

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want people to understand how this is
different. So this move from Capricorn to

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the move into Aquarius is how happening
in my second house and my third house

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cosp is six degrees of Aquarius.
And it takes Pluto a long time to

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get through six degrees because I mean
it's there for twenty years. So it's

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about like you know, the moon, it's going to go through six degrees

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in a few hours. So when
I look at that and I and I

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say, what would you say to
me if I was calling it and saying

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this, how would I look at
this Pluto change? What would what could

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I expect to see in my life? Or what should I be aware of

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or what should I be prepared for? What could I take advantage of?

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Yeah, it's a great question.
I know we're close to a break,

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but it's it's bringing transformation. Pluto's
always bringing transformation in for you. The

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second house, which has been going
on for some time, which is related

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to your self reliance, self worth, stealth, values, your value system,

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your what you consider important in terms
of resources and belongings, and that

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which brings you safety and security in
your life. And so as Pluto has

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been transitting that second house now for
many years, I'm assuming it's bringing deep

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change and sort of burning away that
which isn't aligned for you, though not

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always comfortably. But of course Pluto's
always working. There's always transformation, transformation

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in our lives, and who does
a really good representation of it show?

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I have a question too, but
I will wait and yeah, and we're

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gonna come back with Ashley's question and
talk a little more about Pluto and then

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Ashley, you're up with the question. Yeah, so when I look

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at my breath charge Pluto is in
my first house. So I'm just curious

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about how that coordinates with what Pluto's
doing now. Yeah, so yeah,

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go ahead, go ahead, Okay, but it's going to be passing into

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her fifth house, just so you
know, because I had her charge the

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question. Oh okay, so it's
transiting the fourth Is that is that right?

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No? She's got it in her
fifth house. She's the reason in

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the fifth house. Yeah, because
she's got twenty nine degrees of Capricorn on

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her fifth house. So that Pluto
has been rocking on her fifth house cost

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and will fall has fallen into the
fifth house as Inaquarius. Gotcha. So

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it's just entering now, is that
right into the fifth yep? Yeah,

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yeah, And of course it was
there briefly in March. Yeah. Okay,

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well yeah, so the you know, the fifth House is a house

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of personal creation, and it's it's
sort of where we pour ourselves into the

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world. Are creativity, our opinions, our self expression, our performance.

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It's also the house of children because
children are quite literally a creation, you

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know, we all are, of
course, and it's also house related to

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romance in some ways. But basically, as as Pluto's entering the fifth House,

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there's with Puto, there's a deep
compulsion and with fifth House that's to

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express yourself. That can be sharing
your opinions, sharing you know, leaving

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your mark on the world and sharing
your your views, you know, and

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challenges with the fifth House. The
Pluto and Fifth House sometimes can relate to

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you know, wanting validation, which
of course we all who doesn't want to

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be validated from others we share our
perspective, But I find that with Leo

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and the Fifth House some of the
themes, you know, when we're able

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to express ourselves without needing the other
to validate how we feel, that's when

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it really can thrives, you know
what I mean? Because who hasn't Who

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hasn't felt like frustrated when you share
the opinion and they're like, ah,

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I think you're totally wrong, and
it's like, oh, you know,

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there's something about validating yourself include on
the fifth and being willing and finding strength

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with regards to how much space do
I want to take up? Am I

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taking up enough space in life?
And has there been a vacuum in my

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personal expression category of life? Have
I been taking up too much space too

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little? It's about finding where is
that right? Where's you know, where's

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where's the perfect balance with all that
stuff? So these are some of the

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ways that that some of the personal
transformation might be occurring over these next few

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years according to this perspective, Thank
you and to me, this is about

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owning what your place in the sun
is. Yeah, owning your places the

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sun is and part of it is
not needing anybody else's validation. You have

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to own it. It's your place
in the sun. It's not that somebody

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else shined on you, because then
it's their place in the sun that you

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stepped into. Got it? This
is? This is and you know,

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I always think about the eyes that
happened with each house, and you know,

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the fifth houses I create, and
so this is really twenty years more

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or less that it's going to be
in there of you becoming a creative force.

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Does that make sense, Rob when
I say it that way? Yeah?

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Yeah, yeah, I'd say,
you know, reconnecting and navigating your

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personal creative power, you know,
and to rehash what you said there,

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perfect, all right, well look
out, that's right. Okay. So

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you know the other thing, the
other thing I wanted to say with to

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Pluto and it's moving to Aquarius,
is that as Pluto transitsies different signs,

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it's an indicator for generational wounding that
we've collectively in society that we've had to

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move through. And and so not
only wounding, but but also the personal

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empowerment journey. You know, where
is it where we're getting strength and navigating

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what power is and what power is
not and personal empowerment in those ways.

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And so since two thousand and eight, we've been moving through Pluto and Capricorn.

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Plutown Capricorn is about authority structures,
It's about institutions, public institutions,

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and things of that nature. And
so many of the babies that came into

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the world from two thousand and eight
into twenty twenty four with their natal Pluto

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in Capricorn, from my perspectively,
likely have some past life wounding with regards

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to authority structures, institutions, and
that sort of thing. Now, going

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even back further in time, Pluto
is in Sagittarius from nineteen ninety five through

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two thousand and eight, and Pluto
and Sagittarius is about some generational and collective

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wounding and empowerment through themes related to
your worldview, religious beliefs, having freedom

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of mind, body, and spirit, and things of that nature. And

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you know, so you know,
we don't have time today on the show,

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but from nineteen ninety five to two
thousand and eight looking at that sort

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of collective consciousness, things were moving
through in that manner, and so it's

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really fascinating to look at some of
the generational themes. For instance, the

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generation of Pluto and Leo, which
are those born from nineteen thirty eight to

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nineteen fifty seven. Pluto Leo was
about, you know, freedom of expression

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and freedom of Pluto and Leo of
fun, enjoyment, pleasure, and many

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of those born in that generation were
part of the you know, the sixties

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and the seventies and you know,
that whole transformation and what does it mean

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to rest yourself and romance and that
sort of thing. So it's a really

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fascinating and way to look at events
and generational transformations. And we all have

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this great gift to bring to the
world, and those born from now through

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the next twenty years with Pluto and
Aquarius, we'll have some great gifts to

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give to the world with regards to
navigating this sort of technological and objective you

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know, these types of things that
they'll be growing up through. Okay,

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before we get in that short of
time, maybe talk about what else is

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going on, because we've had a
great Pluto discussion and I've really appreciated that,

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and I'm sure there's at least a
few other things going on in disks.

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They're sure are, but I wanted
to chat about that real quick.

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But love who I love Pluto?
Right, Yeah, So January twenty third,

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Venus will be entering Capricorn, and
Venus archetypeally represents it's one of the

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feminine archetypes. There's many of them, particularly the Moon, also Venus and

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and things and and I guess they're
likely. I don't want to get into

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the feminine or masculine planet's our witch, but it's one of the significant feminine

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planets along with the Moon, much
like Mars is more of the masculine archetype.

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But Venus is about what we value, what we're attracting in life,

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what the sort of law of gravitation
is very much Venus type of archetype,

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where you know, what are you
attracting in your life? What do you

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value? What do you want?
And so Venus is not the action for

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going for what you want. It's
more of this in the receptive quality of

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this is what I'm attracting in my
life. And so as Venus enters Capricorn,

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there's this in areas of what we
value and areas also related to relationships

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than Venus is a prominent relationship archetype. You know there might be this more

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practical and dependable, tough love type
of elements in relationship, where you know,

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the idea of having to do the
work required for a mature relationship,

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you know that sort of thing,
and ideas about you know, what is

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it along what kind of long term
commitments do I want to make in my

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relationships in that sort of thing.
So those are some major themes with Venus

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moving through Capricorn. Now, the
other thing is that we also have Chiron

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is conjunct the north node of the
moon in Aries over this next couple of

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months, and whenever a planets or
an asteroid in this case is conjunct or

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in the same location of the sky
as the north node of the Moon,

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there's this work needed to achieve and
connect and integrate those types of energies.

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The north node in astrology oftentimes represents
that which we've longed for in past lifetimes

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and in this lifetime, but something
we've be longed for and are working towards

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integrating and into our consciousness. And
with the North node on Chiron and Ares,

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there's something about integrating and nurturing our
inner child wounding with regards to how

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we assert ourselves, how we navigate
areas where other people are asserting themselves.

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And it's this whole area related to
the spectrum from assertion to aggression, you

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know, and how we navigate that
in our own lifetime And excuse me,

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I don't know what I'm talking about
lifetimes here, but in our own life,

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but also how we navigate when others
are showing qualities of assertion or aggression,

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and how to navigate that and integrate
and nurture our inner child who might

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be triggered by you know, is
it okay to assert myself? How do

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I respond when they're being aggressive?
Are they being aggressive or are they being

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assertive? And what's the difference in
navigating that whole spectrum? And this is

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going to be active here for the
next few month. On any thoughts on

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this so far, Venus or Cairn
Ashley, I'm going to hand it to

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you, as I said, I'm
taking notes furiously and learning as it go.

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No, I mean with that,
and again, it's all going to

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depend on where it falls where it's
likely to most strike you in your life.

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I mean, it's this conjunction is
happening at what degree, rob,

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do you know off the top of
your head? Um, yeah, I

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can look real quick, it's around
nineteen eighteen degrees areas. Yeah, okay,

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actually even sixteen okay, So like
I laughed, because my fifth house

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CUSP is nineteen degrees areas. So
it's going to be right in my fourth

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house, pushing up against my fifth
house, but it's going to be in

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my fourth house. It's going to
be in my place of home and us

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and kind of you know, finding
something to heal and you know can can

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That assertive is also not come from
you, not just at you, Rob,

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Yes, absolutely, And though one
of the things with the north node

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in the south note is this oppositional
energy, and we're oftentimes more established in

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that south node. So in this
moment with the south noted Libra, the

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collective consciousness might be overly attached to
Libra type of qualities and sort of wishy

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washiness and deferring to others and avoiding
conflict. Not to say that that's happening

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everywhere and everyhow, it's just that
the collective consciousness from this perspective is a

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bit ameshed and maybe overly attached to
that. And with a north node and

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ares, it's suggesting that we're being
asked to lean into asserting ourselves. But

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also it can also be perceived as
seeing assertion out there given the oppositional nature

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of the south note in Libra,
and that we can oftentimes project our assertive

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woundedness or aggressive woundedness chiren and ares
onto the other as it's a classic opposition

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that seems yeah, yeah, and
so that's kind of you know, standing

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up for yourself. But this to
me is a warning, especially depending on

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where it's going to happen, and
for me, it's happening in the house

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of home, which I think is
interesting since over the next in the next

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few months, I'm completely gutting my
kitchen and having my home redone. Isn't

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that symbolic? Is you also have
to make sure that your wounding doesn't make

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you a predator, doesn't make you
justified from a you know, sometimes some

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of the most difficult, sometimes some
of the worst predators are ones who are

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doing it from their place of victimhood. Does that make sense? Yeah?

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No, I see what you're saying. And you know, so these energies

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will be certainly picking up more towards
the end. Let's see, we're just

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getting into it now. It looks
like by mid February. It's more of

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a theme. It's more of a
sort of direct aspect, but it's certainly

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for the month ahead something to keep
in mind. Yep, yep. Just

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make sure you're not taking you're not
your wounds are not bleeding all over somebody

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else wounding them in the process.
There's my own late caution to people out

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there, right, Okay, what
else is going on? Rob okay.

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So there's a full moon January twenty
fifth. The full moon is in Leo,

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and full moons are a time of
sort of fruition and a time of

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navigating, intertention and releasing and sort
of harvesting, as they say, sort

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of throwing out what you don't need
and hanging on to what's working. It's

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sort of a check in process for
how things are going in life, really,

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And this full moon, the sun
will be conjunct Pluto in Aquarius,

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while the moon will be opposite that
in Leo at five degrees, and all

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of this is squaring Jupiter. Jupiter's
in Taurus and Mercury Mars will jump squaring

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the south. So there's quite a
lot going on with this full moon,

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and anytime there's a full moon Leo
Aquarius with the Sun on one side the

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moon on the other side, there's
something about checking in about you know,

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are are we each honoring our true
individuality? You know, where in life

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might you be conforming for validation?
You know, those types of themes with

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Leo Aquarius opposition also with its scoring
Jupiter. You know, is there anything

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that we're believing about our own self
worth that's holding oneself back from waving that

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freak flag and being that unique,
unapologetic person whom each of us are.

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And with Mercury conjunct to Mars,
you know, the question is, you

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know, are you allowing yourself to
be bullied? You know, Mercury Mars

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in Capricorn, that's a real bully
energy. So January twenty fifth, be

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mindful of bullying others, but also
be mindful if oneself is being bullied.

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You know, this is the time
to be mindful about that. With Mercury

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Mars squaring the south node, this
is sort of a check in you know,

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where are we bullying? Where are
we being bullied? And you know,

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time to check in on those areas
and navigate that to the highest of

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your you know, highest aspect of
self. That sort of thing this is

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quite a cluster of energy. And
it's kind of like the old fashioned pinball

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machine when you could have two or
three pinballs going at the same time and

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off each other. And the one
thing I would like to add to this

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is so two things I want to
add that this first of all, Jupiter

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is going to challenge you to expand
into a fuller version of yourself and to

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not limit yourself. Is how I
interpret Jupiter playing and the underlying of all

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of these things. And with a
Mercury Mars conjunction that bullying energy. Yeah,

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you don't want to be bullied.
No, you don't want to be

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a bully. You also have to
be careful to not bully yourself. Good

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point. And I think that with
the energy of the Mercury Mars people during

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the height of this and you said
this was January, what January twenty fifth,

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twenty fifth, twenty sixth, this
is all going to be in high

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energy and during that time period you're
going to have to work at not overreacting.

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You don't want to underreact. You
have to push. You have to

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set your boundaries and you have to
lean into them and not let people cross

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them. But you you know,
during during that time, you may have

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a flare of energy. And again
it depends where all of this is playing

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out on your chart, but you
could have a flare of energy in that

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area of your life where you could
let loose of old build up issues or

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unres things or stuff that you shut
down. I think that this kind of

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combination could make you decide to take
out more than just what's going on in

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front of you. Does that make
sense, Rob? Yeah? Yeah,

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yeah. So if somebody does something
a little stupid, you can't put in

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every stupid thing they've done in the
last twenty years and put it in one

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big punch in their face, That's
right. Nor do you want to be

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on the receiving end of somebody else
doing that to you. So those especially

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for those three days, I would
really say focus on you and you being

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you, and you speaking before you
speak, sitting with the energy before you

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lash back out if you feel lashed
at, and know when to just walk

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away. Does all that line up
with what you see, Rob? Yeah?

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Absolutely? And I would also add
that to think back to the middle

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of the August of twenty twenty three, that's when the corresponding new moon and

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Leo was approximately well, August sixteenth, back to then, because what's occurring,

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what's becoming, sort of, what's
fruiting at January twenty fifth might have

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something related to that new corresponding new
moon back in August at sixteen. Yep,

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good words, good words of wisdom. I'm suspecting we're getting pretty close

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to times. So what else is
they we should be aware of? So

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just real quick, On February ninth, we have a new moon in Aquarius

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at twenty degrees Aquarius. This new
moon indicates a new six month cycle with

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regards to the sort of aquarian age
that we're entering into with Pluto entering Aquarius

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permanently later this year. But this
new moon is squaring Uranus. And the

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question is what do you want to
break free from? And so I'll leave

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it there perfect where do you want
to break free from? Thanks? Rob?

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Thank you. That is Rob from
Innercenter Astrology dot Com and Ashley Elstein

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