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With a plethora of needs, 10 00:00:43.240 --> 00:00:47.759 the Bengals could go a number of directions in the first round of this year's 11 00:00:47.799 --> 00:00:52.600 draft. Let's talk about the possibilities and try to rank those needs. You 12 00:00:52.679 --> 00:00:58.479 are Locked On Bengals, your daily Cincinnati Bengals podcast, part of the Locked 13 00:00:58.520 --> 00:01:19.040 On podcast Network, Your Team every Day. One up, Bengals fans, 14 00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:22.319 and welcome to another episode of the Lockdown Bengals Podcast. I'm your host, 15 00:01:22.519 --> 00:01:26.480 Jake Lisco. He's your host James Rapine. Together we are the Lockdown Bengals 16 00:01:26.519 --> 00:01:30.599 podcast, covering your team every day on YouTube and everywhere you get your podcasts. 17 00:01:30.640 --> 00:01:33.439 If you're new to the show, you're just dipping your toes into some 18 00:01:33.480 --> 00:01:37.560 Bengals draft coverage. 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When we were 27 00:02:08.080 --> 00:02:14.120 talking about this episode before the show, when we were planning our topic for 28 00:02:14.199 --> 00:02:19.080 today, the list of first round potential targets is long, and trying to 29 00:02:19.240 --> 00:02:23.759 rank them in terms of priority, it's sort of difficult. I mean, 30 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:27.719 you got five six positions on this list when we were talking about this last 31 00:02:27.800 --> 00:02:34.199 night. Yeah, I think This is a unique position that we haven't seen 32 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:38.560 the Bengals in in quite some time, where one they're picking earlier than we've 33 00:02:38.560 --> 00:02:44.520 seen the past couple of years, and two in recent years it's been well, 34 00:02:44.560 --> 00:02:46.919 there's no obvious needs, like there's needs down the line, and we 35 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:52.039 saw them take Dax Hill, which we'll see if that pick works out or 36 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:54.439 not. And last year it was like, well, there's no obvious needs, 37 00:02:54.439 --> 00:02:58.280 you could go tight end. I pushed for running back, but both 38 00:02:58.280 --> 00:03:00.919 of the running backs that were worth first round picks were gone, and after 39 00:03:00.919 --> 00:03:04.879 that it was kind of like, we'll see, like what they do. 40 00:03:05.120 --> 00:03:07.840 We knew it wasn't receiver, but we kind of had it narrowed down to 41 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:12.479 multiple defensive spots and maybe tight end. There were a lot of people against 42 00:03:12.479 --> 00:03:15.879 the running back trains, so won't even mention that one. So that was 43 00:03:15.879 --> 00:03:22.439 pretty much it right now and full disclosure. A year ago, at this 44 00:03:22.479 --> 00:03:24.639 time, the Bengals were playing the Chiefs. We weren't into draft mode yet, 45 00:03:24.960 --> 00:03:29.439 but right now there are far more needs. You could go tight end 46 00:03:29.840 --> 00:03:32.680 and certainly make that argument. The reason you aren't, and I won't argue 47 00:03:32.719 --> 00:03:36.840 running back is more to do with the draft class than it is the idea 48 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:40.120 that they wouldn't take one, So we'll scratch that one. But still offensive 49 00:03:40.159 --> 00:03:45.240 tackle certainly in play, defensive tackle certainly in play. A lot of people 50 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:49.439 talking about defensive tackle, defensive end. I don't think it's completely rolled out. 51 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:53.960 Cornerback certainly on the table. So there's five. Is there a six 52 00:03:53.039 --> 00:04:00.280 that I missed that I led off wide receive? I what's going on for 53 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:03.280 you? Okay, yeah, what is going on? Why would I not 54 00:04:03.319 --> 00:04:05.639 remember wide receiver? I should have let off with that one, because of 55 00:04:05.680 --> 00:04:10.039 course wide receivers in play as well. And so there you go. There's 56 00:04:10.080 --> 00:04:16.720 six different positions that I think there's at least some realistic chance and realistic possibility 57 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:24.800 that that's the route they go with the eighteenth pick. And we still have 58 00:04:24.920 --> 00:04:28.560 what three months exactly. It seems like a pretty close to exactly for the 59 00:04:28.680 --> 00:04:30.600 NFL Draft. And yet I do think it is that open where you're talking 60 00:04:30.639 --> 00:04:34.800 about six different positions at least in the running as of right now. And 61 00:04:34.879 --> 00:04:40.160 obviously this episode is far too early to really say what we think they will 62 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:44.720 do in the NFL Draft. Free agency will change this significantly. The Senior 63 00:04:44.759 --> 00:04:49.160 Bowl, the Shrine Bowl. The combine all these major draft events that give 64 00:04:49.240 --> 00:04:54.959 us a lot more information about the prospects will occur and will adjust accordingly when 65 00:04:55.000 --> 00:04:57.680 we know more of what the Bengals roster is going to look like and more 66 00:04:57.680 --> 00:04:59.759 of what this draft class is going to look like. But one of the 67 00:04:59.800 --> 00:05:02.240 big lessons, and we'll talk about this when we compare how this year and 68 00:05:02.319 --> 00:05:05.160 last year could be different for the Bengals, is I don't think they can 69 00:05:05.240 --> 00:05:09.519 draft for the future this year, and we can spend a lot of time, 70 00:05:09.759 --> 00:05:13.720 I think talking about this philosophical approach we've theme from the Bengals really in 71 00:05:13.959 --> 00:05:16.639 each of their last three quarterback regimes, where at some point they tried to 72 00:05:16.720 --> 00:05:21.759 draft for the future. Notably under Andy Dalton we saw the tackle future Draft, 73 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:25.720 and I think we've seen a couple of drafts in Cincinnati the last couple 74 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:31.160 of years where the late first round pick is not necessarily geared toward let's find 75 00:05:31.160 --> 00:05:33.759 a guy that will make an impact on the team this year. And I 76 00:05:33.759 --> 00:05:39.759 think that is a difference this year when we're looking at why this will be 77 00:05:39.800 --> 00:05:43.399 such a challenging exercise is because you know, the way you framed it. 78 00:05:43.439 --> 00:05:45.720 To me, this is also interesting, and when we were talking about this 79 00:05:45.839 --> 00:05:48.120 yesterday, is you know, you're saying the Bengals really open this year as 80 00:05:48.120 --> 00:05:50.279 far as what they can do in the first round. And I think that's 81 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:55.480 true last year, that's how I would frame it last year, where this 82 00:05:55.600 --> 00:05:58.480 year I would say, well, they need a whole lot of things. 83 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:00.439 Let's see what need is less. So in a sense, they're open. 84 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:02.920 It could be any number of positions, like you said, any number of 85 00:06:02.959 --> 00:06:06.240 six positions, even it could be something we haven't even talked about, right, 86 00:06:06.639 --> 00:06:11.439 But it's because they will need it. It's because they will need an 87 00:06:11.519 --> 00:06:16.480 impact player at that position. And maybe it's not even a positional thing. 88 00:06:16.519 --> 00:06:19.680 It's just that I think the approach to this year's draft needs to be, 89 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:25.120 and we'll talk about priority and trying to rank these positions, needs to be 90 00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:28.800 let's find an impact player. Let's find a Pro Bowl, All Pro potential 91 00:06:28.839 --> 00:06:33.639 player, regardless of position. And that's where I would start with this year's 92 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:38.800 draft, just looking at how this year went for the Bengals and how you 93 00:06:38.800 --> 00:06:43.399 can kind of project toward twenty twenty four. I agree. I totally agree, 94 00:06:43.399 --> 00:06:48.199 and I think one for years now, multiple years, it's been hey, 95 00:06:48.199 --> 00:06:53.199 can you can you land like the Windows now land an instant impact player. 96 00:06:53.240 --> 00:06:56.519 So they might be forced into that because of the needs. You're right, 97 00:06:56.600 --> 00:06:58.600 and so do you want to look at it on one end of the 98 00:06:58.600 --> 00:07:02.439 coin or the other end? I think it is interesting, But we're really 99 00:07:02.439 --> 00:07:05.560 going to see this front office have to marry and they've tried to do this 100 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:11.680 in the past, but marry the draft and free agency and they did it, 101 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:15.199 and yeah, no doubt they had done it, but marry it and 102 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:18.680 nail it. And they nailed it in twenty twenty one. And you look 103 00:07:18.720 --> 00:07:21.759 up and they're in the Super Bowl two years ago, right, Like it's 104 00:07:21.800 --> 00:07:26.519 wild when they were doing that. But you get Chittobe Luzia, you get 105 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:30.720 Mike hillten, you split that William Jackson money essentially that he was going to 106 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:31.920 get on the open market. And by the way, both of those guys 107 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:36.160 still in the league. William Jackson is not. So they nailed it there, 108 00:07:36.240 --> 00:07:39.240 and so they need to get back to that where they get it right 109 00:07:39.240 --> 00:07:44.160 in free agency and follow it up with instant impact guys. One thing that 110 00:07:44.199 --> 00:07:46.439 I think is notable. We'll probably discuss them a lot over the next few 111 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:50.399 months. The Bengals. It's not like they didn't like tight end. There 112 00:07:50.399 --> 00:07:54.480 were tight ends they liked and they went off the board. Let's say they 113 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:58.279 had a round three grade on Tucker Craft. Well, by the time their 114 00:07:58.279 --> 00:08:01.519 third round pick rolled around, Tucker Craft was long gone. They're not picking 115 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:07.160 at the end of every round now, and I do think that that's unique 116 00:08:07.240 --> 00:08:09.720 because at the past two years, I think they got burned a lot, 117 00:08:09.800 --> 00:08:13.639 and that's why they traded up multiple times in twenty twenty two and in last 118 00:08:13.720 --> 00:08:16.800 year. I think that's why the draft went the way the draft did at 119 00:08:16.879 --> 00:08:20.279 certain positions. So that's another element for sure. Picking in the middle of 120 00:08:20.439 --> 00:08:24.040 the round certainly easier than picking at the end of the round, but not 121 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:28.000 as easy as the last couple of draft classes where they found some guys. 122 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:31.960 When they're picking top five, top one, that certainly makes it a little 123 00:08:31.960 --> 00:08:37.039 bit easier. But free agency obviously going to have a huge impact on how 124 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:39.440 we ranked these positions, and we're going to get to the ranking. It 125 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:41.639 might be in the next segment, but offensive tackle, defensive tackle, corner, 126 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:46.360 wide receiver, tight end. You can throw edge defender in there as 127 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:52.080 well, so we can try to rank those six. But they need to 128 00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:56.600 have answers for each of these positions at the end of free agency. Can't 129 00:08:56.639 --> 00:09:00.799 go into the draft not having a starting right tackle, go into the draft 130 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:03.480 having what they have at defensive tackle and tight end where there's essentially nothing in 131 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:07.960 the room. Can't go into the draft with Jamar Chase, Charlie Jones, 132 00:09:07.960 --> 00:09:11.960 Andre Josuvash, and Trent Irwin as your four receivers, right so they will 133 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:15.919 and T Higgins likely to be on the franchise sack. So maybe that kind 134 00:09:15.919 --> 00:09:20.919 of down plays or diminishes that the push for a first round wide receiver. 135 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:24.679 But this class at wide receiver is going to push that right back up just 136 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:28.039 because it's an insane class at wide receiver. So we're told corner could be 137 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:33.879 a place where they feel like they've got their starters, but how confident are 138 00:09:33.919 --> 00:09:39.559 you and the guys they have? And again, a place where value could 139 00:09:39.600 --> 00:09:43.639 push corner up in the first round, but we'll get to that prioritization. 140 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:46.679 I just wanted to make the point that they cannot get to the draft with 141 00:09:46.759 --> 00:09:52.879 a burning need for a starter. They need to one find an impact player 142 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:54.480 that can contribute right away, which is not something they've been able to do 143 00:09:54.519 --> 00:09:58.759 for the last couple of years since they drafted Jamar Chase. But two, 144 00:09:58.399 --> 00:10:05.399 they can't go into the draft where it's that player or bust at a particular 145 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:07.279 position. That's why I kind of framed it initially as being a little bit 146 00:10:07.559 --> 00:10:11.159 positioned agnostic, and they just need to find the player rather the Billy Christ 147 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:16.080 droves up to find the position. Yet you can't. 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Let's start with the first one. 188 00:12:56.279 --> 00:13:03.399 Biggest need as of right now. You could go a few different directions 189 00:13:03.080 --> 00:13:07.840 to me. As of right now, it's defensive tackle. Because of right 190 00:13:07.879 --> 00:13:13.919 now, DJ Reader said, to become a free agent, Josh Tupo said, 191 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:18.120 to become a free agent, you have the uncertainty of Reader and outside 192 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:22.519 of BJ Hill. With Reader's injury, and outside of BJ Hill, what 193 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:26.320 are you banking on J two Fela Zach Carter like, this is a position 194 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:31.960 where you need multiple guys where it wasn't good enough this year with DJ Reader 195 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:35.440 and now you have a question mark with Reader and whether or not Ho'll be 196 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:37.679 back. You have the injury question mark with him, and so even if 197 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:41.039 you brought him back, let's just say he was under contract, it would 198 00:13:41.039 --> 00:13:45.799 still be a major need. I had defensive tackle number one, And this 199 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:50.360 kind of shows the needs because I think you could make the argument for multiple 200 00:13:50.360 --> 00:13:54.080 spots here, but I have DT just slightly above the rest. Yeah, 201 00:13:54.120 --> 00:13:56.759 I think that there's a pretty good argument for that when you look at the 202 00:13:56.799 --> 00:14:00.360 way the draft might fall as well. And we'll take a look look at 203 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:07.039 potential first round targets for sure, but Newton Johnny Newton, he's going by 204 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:11.679 now, not Jerson Newton, Illinois defensive tackle if he's the guy that's available 205 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:18.639 there, and that's the way that things fall right now. That feels like 206 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:22.679 a common pick that we're going to be seeing in a lot of Cincinnati Bengals 207 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:26.080 mock drafts because of that needed defensive tackle, but as you said, not 208 00:14:26.200 --> 00:14:31.919 a position the Bengals frequently prioritize in the first round and a position where you 209 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:35.480 can easily see them spending money in free agency, and that's part of what 210 00:14:35.519 --> 00:14:41.440 makes this challenging. But between that and right tackle a couple of positions where 211 00:14:41.480 --> 00:14:45.559 again you expect the Bengals to spend money in free agency to have some pieces 212 00:14:45.600 --> 00:14:50.519 there, and right tackle an offensive linemen in general in the NFL, as 213 00:14:50.600 --> 00:14:54.279 rookies, especially if you're not picking them in the top five, often and 214 00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:58.720 even then sometimes often need some seasoning. You don't want to necessarily have to 215 00:14:58.759 --> 00:15:03.320 rely on a rookie right out of the gate. That's where offensive tackle is 216 00:15:03.399 --> 00:15:07.120 right up there with defensive tackle. Right I mean, they have no tight 217 00:15:07.200 --> 00:15:09.759 ends on the roster, so technically, if you want to look at that 218 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:11.120 one, you can talk about tight end, but they also don't have a 219 00:15:11.120 --> 00:15:16.320 starting right tackle on the roster, and we talk a lot about this offensive 220 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:22.000 line needing to play better, needing an athleticism infusion. Picking a little bit 221 00:15:22.039 --> 00:15:24.480 earlier in a very strong offensive tackle class, talk about how strong the wide 222 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:28.519 receiver class. Is also true for tackle, where I think Dame Brugler had 223 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:35.200 like double digits tackles in his first first round mock draft of the year. 224 00:15:37.240 --> 00:15:41.919 So I mean, you're talking crazy tackle death and you can get an infusion 225 00:15:41.919 --> 00:15:45.480 of talent and athleticism there. I think those are the two that we're talking 226 00:15:45.559 --> 00:15:48.320 about at the top when you're talking about draft needs for the first round. 227 00:15:48.759 --> 00:15:50.960 Let me ask you this, and I'm putting you on the spot, but 228 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:54.519 you just look at that depth stary at both of those positions, and I 229 00:15:54.519 --> 00:15:56.879 agree with you that that's the debate, and I think you could flip them 230 00:15:56.919 --> 00:16:00.639 either way. Who do you trust more? And these are just guys that 231 00:16:00.679 --> 00:16:06.120 are on the roster and under contract right now. At defensive tackle you have 232 00:16:06.200 --> 00:16:11.200 j two Fla and Zach Carter, or at offensive tackle you have Jackson Carmen 233 00:16:11.240 --> 00:16:15.759 and Deontay Smith. That's quite easy, isn't it. Like you trust the 234 00:16:15.799 --> 00:16:19.240 defensive tackle because they're not putting Joe Burrow at risk. That's it, Like 235 00:16:19.320 --> 00:16:25.320 it's worse for your defense, probably, But I don't trust either one. 236 00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:30.039 I think the answer is not. I don't even really trust at least three 237 00:16:30.039 --> 00:16:33.279 of the four as quality backups, to be honest, it's just at least 238 00:16:33.399 --> 00:16:40.600 that way, you're not endangering your quarterback with a glaring weakness on your offensively. 239 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:44.480 Sure, and come back to this, if they go into the season 240 00:16:44.519 --> 00:16:49.279 with Jackson Carmen as plan a for right tackle, because we need to hold 241 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:52.080 ourselves and we're going to continue to hold them to that standard, because that 242 00:16:52.120 --> 00:16:57.440 would be there should be a better chance. No, I'm serious about this. 243 00:16:57.480 --> 00:17:02.840 There should be a better Oh wait, like one hundred to one should 244 00:17:02.919 --> 00:17:07.680 be the odds if you look at Vandal that Jackson Carmen is your starting right 245 00:17:07.759 --> 00:17:15.119 tackle given any circumstance, including injuries as starting the year. But the other 246 00:17:15.160 --> 00:17:21.079 element of this is you're right, they should, they should pay. But 247 00:17:21.160 --> 00:17:23.279 he I think it's more likely that he's not on the roster than he is 248 00:17:23.319 --> 00:17:27.079 the starter, to be very clear. And I don't think they'll cut I 249 00:17:27.200 --> 00:17:30.039 doubt it. But and everyone talks about the Billy Price trade like you can 250 00:17:30.079 --> 00:17:34.640 just cook up someone that wants Jackson Karmen. I don't think anyone wants Jackson 251 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:38.839 Karmen anyad no trade value there, all right, So we both agree dtote 252 00:17:40.920 --> 00:17:44.240 basically six and one hand half a dozen the other top needs at the top 253 00:17:44.279 --> 00:17:47.880 of the board. Third, I do think it is tight end. I 254 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:53.160 do, And it's tight end because there's no like, let's say you even 255 00:17:53.160 --> 00:17:56.640 had Tanner Hudson and Drew Sample back on the roster, and I think those 256 00:17:56.640 --> 00:17:57.920 are two guys that a lot of people look at and say, hey, 257 00:17:59.160 --> 00:18:02.920 they can help this offense. Which I agree, that's still one of your 258 00:18:02.920 --> 00:18:07.200 worst spots and one of your worst positions, and that's now knock on them. 259 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:12.279 They just don't have any young, controllable, rookie contract guy or proven 260 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:17.839 even remotely close to Pro Bowl type player, yeah, at that spot. 261 00:18:18.319 --> 00:18:22.359 And so those are good role players, but they need to get better at 262 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:26.079 tight end, and draft wise, it stinks because it's brockburs and then there's 263 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:30.680 a drop off, and you do wonder if in rounds two through four they'll 264 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:33.519 be able to find a guy that can contribute right away, which it's hard 265 00:18:33.519 --> 00:18:36.920 to do at tight end. Anyway, you know, some of these guys 266 00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:41.319 did it this past year with Kincaid and Laporta and Tucker Craft, and I 267 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:44.039 could go on and on. It's not always like that, and it was 268 00:18:44.079 --> 00:18:45.920 like that this past year. No, it was a crazy tight end class 269 00:18:45.920 --> 00:18:49.440 and they missed out, and that's unfortunate that they missed out, But like 270 00:18:49.480 --> 00:18:52.640 you said, that's the way the board fell at. Picking at the end 271 00:18:52.680 --> 00:18:56.200 of the round makes it hard to overdraft a guy like picking Tucker Craft at 272 00:18:56.240 --> 00:19:00.279 the end of the second round. What would have been the alternative? And 273 00:19:00.319 --> 00:19:03.200 I know there's some Bengals fans out there that don't think DJ Turner had a 274 00:19:03.279 --> 00:19:07.559 very good rookie season. And that is my segue to cornerback, because between 275 00:19:07.599 --> 00:19:14.960 tight end and corner, I think that that is again impacted by the draft. 276 00:19:15.079 --> 00:19:18.440 This is not a great draft at either of those positions, but it's 277 00:19:18.440 --> 00:19:22.279 certainly better at corner than it is tight end. There are corners that are 278 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:26.160 besides brock Bowers, there's only one tight end. There's multiple corners I think 279 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:30.880 that are worth first round picks that will be picked in the first round. 280 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:36.599 So if you're talking about priorities in terms of what they could pick in the 281 00:19:36.640 --> 00:19:40.680 first round, James, I would put corner ahead of tight end because I 282 00:19:40.680 --> 00:19:45.559 think Bowers is gone. But if it's Bowers versus corner, obviously tight end 283 00:19:45.759 --> 00:19:48.759 kind of jumps over everything. I think unless it's like somehow you have a 284 00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:53.519 decision between Brock Powers and Joe Allt and then it gets really interesting. But 285 00:19:53.680 --> 00:19:57.960 they played themselves all that consideration, you will yeah, will not be Yeah. 286 00:19:59.599 --> 00:20:03.799 There's a small sliver for Bowers, a small one where you could say, 287 00:20:04.240 --> 00:20:08.400 hey, positional value wise, there's this offensive tackle or this is wide 288 00:20:08.400 --> 00:20:15.160 receiver. Multiple quarterbacks go that our borderline Round one guys go ahead of the 289 00:20:15.160 --> 00:20:18.680 eighteenth back, like you could see the fall two DT's go. I don't 290 00:20:18.720 --> 00:20:26.799 think you're getting a top seven or eight offensive tackle. But if Bowers falls, 291 00:20:26.839 --> 00:20:27.880 all right, would you take Newton or Bowers? That would be the 292 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:32.039 one. And that's the popular debate. What would you do if both are 293 00:20:32.039 --> 00:20:34.920 there and they won't know it's January twenty eighth. I don't know yet. 294 00:20:34.960 --> 00:20:41.640 There you go. That is the dream, and it probably will be borderline 295 00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:45.319 dream for this team over the next three months. I think that's fair. 296 00:20:45.559 --> 00:20:49.400 Right of one of those guys falls, now, it could change some. 297 00:20:49.559 --> 00:20:53.119 I think these receivers they're kind of slotted the way they're slotted. I think 298 00:20:53.119 --> 00:20:57.720 we'll have some risers. I think we'll have some guys that make their push 299 00:20:57.920 --> 00:21:03.640 for that eighteenth and who knows what ta I think the t stuff. It's 300 00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:07.599 just so interesting because you and I both have talked tag and trade. I 301 00:21:07.640 --> 00:21:10.960 think that makes a decent amount of sense. 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Offensive tackle defensive tackle kind of 339 00:23:38.599 --> 00:23:44.599 tied ish for first You can make an argument either way. Tight end corner 340 00:23:45.240 --> 00:23:48.839 I think probably goes tight end then corner, but I think for first round 341 00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:51.759 priority, like I said, corner gets pushed up just because of the draft 342 00:23:51.759 --> 00:23:56.240 class. I think wide receiver also gets pushed up because of the draft class. 343 00:23:56.079 --> 00:24:00.079 Not necessarily that it's a burning need right now. But when you have 344 00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:03.680 a class like this, we ask them every year, Hey, this is 345 00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:06.279 a really strong class of tight end. Hey this is a really strong class 346 00:24:06.279 --> 00:24:08.200 of wide receiver. Let's dip into that. How does that play into it 347 00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:12.359 with edge defender as the other one of the six that we mentioned, Yeah, 348 00:24:12.759 --> 00:24:19.240 I think edge is last. I think wide receiver, like there's a 349 00:24:19.319 --> 00:24:26.240 scenario where it's at near the top and at leapfrogs tight end and it becomes 350 00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:30.799 like, all right, it's the best tackle wide receiver that's available. Like 351 00:24:32.279 --> 00:24:36.920 if t Higgins isn't on this roster come draft time, or there's real legitimate 352 00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:41.240 hey they're willing to trade him, then wide receiver has to be up there. 353 00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:45.599 They're a wide receiver based team, and unless they're completely changing their offense, 354 00:24:45.599 --> 00:24:48.119 I don't expect them to. They rely on wide receivers as much as 355 00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:55.279 any team and multiple and I think the wide receiver at eighteen is interesting because 356 00:24:55.400 --> 00:24:56.640 you're right, they win at the end of the year, and I think 357 00:24:56.640 --> 00:25:02.319 they play themselves out of like the top guys, right neighbors is someone a 358 00:25:02.319 --> 00:25:06.079 lot of people like he might not make it past Brian Callahan's Titans at seven, 359 00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:11.039 I think, or five, I mean or higher? Sure, I 360 00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:15.839 just mean like the floor is probably seven. We know what Marvin Harrison Junior 361 00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:18.759 is, So let's just cancel those two guys out because they're gonna be long 362 00:25:18.799 --> 00:25:26.319 gone. Could Roma Dunza fall, I think that's really unlikely, less less 363 00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:30.119 likely than let's say brock Bauer's fall or Newton falling. Just to give you 364 00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:34.640 an idea of some but if he was there, even with T, you 365 00:25:34.640 --> 00:25:40.079 would consider it because that's like, oh, freak show stuff and you're doing 366 00:25:40.119 --> 00:25:44.799 it in round one. I'm not as I don't think they'll run to the 367 00:25:44.799 --> 00:25:47.519 podium, say for a Keon Coleman. I know he's in the mix. 368 00:25:47.559 --> 00:25:52.759 Brian Thomas is interesting to me, but I don't know if unless T is 369 00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:59.000 gone ready, would they consider that tier. I think the Roma Dunsay is 370 00:25:59.039 --> 00:26:02.920 probably the last that they'd be like, oh, well we have tea franchise 371 00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:06.480 tag, but that dude's still there, which it has happened. I will 372 00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:10.680 say CD Lamb fell in the draft, like let's not go say it's crazy 373 00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:14.160 justin Jefferson fell in the draft. But everyone knew Ceedee Lamb was a stud 374 00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:18.559 and he still fell to seventeen I believe, so it isn't completely outlandish, 375 00:26:18.599 --> 00:26:22.160 but it's pretty unlikely. It's great tackle class. There's going to be tight 376 00:26:22.279 --> 00:26:26.200 end. Sorry, there's going to be quarterbacks pick. We know Brock Bowers 377 00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:30.119 is likely to be picked. There will probably be a defensive tackle, probably 378 00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:33.079 an edge player in. There will be no positional value will play a part 379 00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:37.799 in pushing guys up the board. But today it's hard for me to make 380 00:26:37.799 --> 00:26:41.880 a big argument for wide receiver just because I expect T to be on the 381 00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:45.960 team and until that changes. That's kind of why wide receivers mentioned where it 382 00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:49.440 is that said, I would still love the Bengals to take a wide receiver 383 00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:52.920 in this class, it just might not be in the first draft. Edge, 384 00:26:53.200 --> 00:27:00.200 you know, not particularly robust class. They have pretty significant depth there 385 00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:04.240 in twenty twenty four. They need to be better. But when you're talking 386 00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:07.759 about Sam Hubbard, can sample josepho Side, Trey Hendricks and Miles Murphy being 387 00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:12.000 the five guys on the roster right now. That is first round pick. 388 00:27:12.079 --> 00:27:15.920 One of the NFL sack leaders, depending on your definition of a sack. 389 00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:22.039 Long time Cincinnati Guy, veteran captain type and Sam Hubbard plus good role players 390 00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:25.960 in camp sample and a guy that we keep having expectations for maybe we don't 391 00:27:25.960 --> 00:27:30.680 anymore in josepho Side, but that's your fifth guy. Hard to think about 392 00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:34.079 a first round edge player fitting into that mix unless it's a guy that you 393 00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:38.720 think is going to come totally displaced Sam Hubber. But when you've already got 394 00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:41.720 Miles Murphy on the roster, that that is tough. And I wonder if 395 00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:45.640 there are positions that we're getting yelled at about that we haven't talked about. 396 00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:49.160 I don't know that there's a first round interior offensive lineman in this class. 397 00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:55.480 I don't know much about the safety class. I can imagine those two potentially 398 00:27:56.039 --> 00:27:59.440 have some folks interested in maybe punter. Maybe people want the first round punter. 399 00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:03.880 I think we nailed it because if they take a dang, you imagine 400 00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:08.319 I'm taking a center at eighteen, Like, no, that sounds ugh. 401 00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:11.920 I can't especially this year. I don't think there's a guy. And by 402 00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:17.839 the way, if they take a safety at eighteen, he'd better instantly be 403 00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:22.440 Jesse Bates because they've already invested draft cap. I mean, you're talking about 404 00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:27.640 two valuable picks in that position, and when's the last time they had a 405 00:28:27.640 --> 00:28:32.599 first round offensive tackle or a third round offensive tackle. It's been a while 406 00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:36.880 outside of Jackson Carmen in Round two, which we knew in the moment it 407 00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:40.680 was a dumb pick. So yeah, we gave it time, by the 408 00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:44.640 way, but we knew in the moment it seemed very very questionable at best. 409 00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:47.519 Just to be very clear, and the receipts are there, you can 410 00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:49.640 go listen to our old episodes. Whenever the Bengals make a pick, we 411 00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:53.640 will try to frame the upside right and the draft. That is what the 412 00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:59.160 draft is for. You're often picking players for upside, but you will certainly 413 00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:06.119 hear skepticism them when we are skeptical of the player's chances of hitting that Upside's 414 00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:07.960 like, Wet'll take a quick look, James at some of the potential names. 415 00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:12.960 We're gonna load up a draft simulator here on PFF. So let's get 416 00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:18.680 that pulled up for the people on YouTube and we'll talk through it for everybody 417 00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:23.359 that's just listening. Let's get that pulled up now, and here we go. 418 00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:29.960 If you're watching on YouTube, we have the PFF mock Draft simulator We're 419 00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:32.240 just gonna let this run and take a look at some first round draft targets. 420 00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:36.319 We're not gonna do anything crazy fancy here. We're just gonna hit this 421 00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:41.039 enter draft button and see where the players go. Some of the players that 422 00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:47.759 we talked about, and Jayde Daniels is there, baby. So here we've 423 00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:55.440 got the situation that meaning getting past three what of the quarterback falling. But 424 00:29:56.079 --> 00:30:00.000 some of the guys we discussed, like Roma Dunday long, Marvin Harrison long 425 00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:03.920 gone, the leak, Neighbors long gone, Brock Bowers long gone, Joe 426 00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:07.440 Dunday ahead of Harrison? What planet are we on? PF The order doesn't 427 00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:11.000 really matter though, right, It's just these are players. Oh Nicks ahead 428 00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:15.880 of Jade Daniels matters to me. So here's the thing about that is lanzer 429 00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:22.799 Line, Mike Renner, and Matt Waldman all have Bonex ahead of Jade Daniels. 430 00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:26.240 And this won't happened on draft night book it. And I love Mike 431 00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:30.920 and I love those other guys too, But I'm just saying that bo Nicks 432 00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:33.920 from Auburn, apparently it's a different player from Bonex at Oregon. But that's 433 00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:37.079 not what we're here to talk about. He is anyways, J C. 434 00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:41.119 Latham at fifteen. It's so funny seeing people like Latham is not good and 435 00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:44.640 then others like, yeah, give me Latham, and then other people say, 436 00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:47.759 no Alabama tackle. If Latham's there at eighteen, I think that's a 437 00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:49.799 pretty good scenario. It's go ahead. That is the name to talk about. 438 00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:53.599 I think Tally Essay Fuaga, whose name I might be getting wrong, 439 00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:57.480 is another tackle who is earlier in this sim then I think he will go 440 00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:03.160 based on what I understand right now on draft day. But that's another lineman 441 00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:06.519 that you could talk about. Dallas Turner one of those edge players you could 442 00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:08.359 talk about. Nate Wiggins one of the corners you could talk about, and 443 00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:12.559 Johnny Newton picked as well. Terry on Arnold another corner you could talk about. 444 00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:18.119 And Mayatu Latu from UCLA, the edge player, one of the edge 445 00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:21.559 players that I think will be in consideration for the Bengals if they were looking 446 00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:23.799 at edge in the first round. I saw some good players. Though. 447 00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:26.920 When we're looking at draft simulators and names are going to hear a lot of 448 00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:32.920 our guys like Brian Thomas, Amarius Mims, potentially kool A McKinstry at the 449 00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:34.960 corner from Alabama. We talked with Mike Runner about him in our draft primer 450 00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:41.400 a couple of weeks ago. And Jared Verse would be another edge player that 451 00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:45.559 I think some folks would have been happy with a while ago. Byron Murphy 452 00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:48.440 also an interior defender who's working his way into first round consideration. And if 453 00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:53.279 you're one of the draft of safety crowd Cam Kitchens from Miami another name here 454 00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:57.440 that I think would potentially draw some consideration. Anything else dropping out at you, 455 00:31:57.519 --> 00:32:00.519 James, No, really, you covered most of them. I think 456 00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:06.720 Amarius Mims. Did you mention Mims? Yes, all right, Amarius Mims 457 00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:09.160 to me, kool Aid McKinstry vaults at the top of my board because of 458 00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:15.799 the name. I mean, the things that the Bengals fans would do if 459 00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:21.480 kool Aid was awesome and you had Juice and kool Aid as your starting corners, 460 00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:25.160 like with Jan Drago as you as you're maybe your slot corner long term. 461 00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:30.240 Very fun. Yeah, that's a lot of fun. I have watched 462 00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:35.519 a little Brian Thomas. Dude's a baller. Just gonna throw that out there. 463 00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:39.079 It's early. I think Amarius Mims may have the like one of the 464 00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:44.039 higher ceilings in this tackle class. And we talked with Mike Renner about him 465 00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:45.400 some and I think there will be a lot of fans that are like, 466 00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:50.920 no to inexperience, too risky, But I think he could very well be 467 00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:53.519 the pick in this scenario Byron Murphy too. I'm surprised he's that low. 468 00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:58.440 I feel like he's there's a good chance he might not even be there at 469 00:32:58.480 --> 00:33:02.200 eight team. We've seen him mocked ahead of Newton. Yeah, yeah, 470 00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:07.480 that's I believe that was Dame Brugler's mock as well. Yeah, I think 471 00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:10.000 I could. I could be misattributing that one. But when I scroll through 472 00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:14.240 this list for everybody watching on YouTube that he sees me scrolling while James is 473 00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:17.960 talking, you see that the list of tackles is pretty deep. There's also 474 00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:22.680 Troy for Fatanu from Washington, who maybe kicks inside in the NFL. The 475 00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:25.960 list of wide receivers is quite deep. You have to scroll for a while 476 00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:31.960 before you find uh Kean Coleman, who's a bit down on the PFF board 477 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:36.079 compared to like Troy Franklin. And if we just look at the wide receiver 478 00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:39.799 position group here Brian Thomas, Troy Flank, Troy Franklin, Ladd McConkie, 479 00:33:40.599 --> 00:33:47.680 devontees Walker, Keon Coleman ad and I Mitchell, Xavier Legette. So yes 480 00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:55.400 gets interesting at forty nine. Bengals second round pick in Maconkie is interesting, 481 00:33:55.839 --> 00:34:00.920 Lad and as well. I think will be another one in Jaelen Polk. 482 00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:05.119 Like the list of receivers goes on, you can tell, you can tell 483 00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:07.359 which guys we've seen a little bit of and which ones we have. There's 484 00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:08.960 three months to go, people, we will know everybody inside and out. 485 00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:13.559 I promise it's just early ads of today. If we were doing mock draft 486 00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:15.360 Monday today, James, and we'll get out of here. I would pick 487 00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:19.280 Marius Mems in this scenario based on what I know today, which is not 488 00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:23.000 I would I would take Mems or it would be Trenches or Murphy. And 489 00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:29.599 so I'd probably take Murphy because I said that defensive tackle is their biggest need. 490 00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:31.960 Free agency will impact that sum and this is why they have to marry 491 00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:36.719 the two is because they have to know have a good handle as they go 492 00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:40.199 into free agency of how they think they can approach the draft and how realistic 493 00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:44.639 it is that they get a first round OT. Will they consider a first 494 00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:47.199 round DT even though they haven't taken one since nineteen ninety four when half of 495 00:34:47.239 --> 00:34:51.239 our listeners, maybe not half, but some of our listeners weren't even alive. 496 00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:54.199 I think there are some interesting scenarios there. Do they like Brian Thomas 497 00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:59.280 enough? Because he's good yak and he's a good contested catch type of receiver, 498 00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:02.519 and he runs well. Nobody runs, but he looks fast, so 499 00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:07.519 we'll see. I think it's I think it's interesting, and Jake I will 500 00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:12.679 say this, I'm officially really really excited about the draft. Draft season is 501 00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:17.599 here. Lets go. He's had to open the draft simulator. Once we're 502 00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:22.920 ready to go. We're ready to go here on Lockdown Bank. A Marius 503 00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:24.719 Men's test thing going to be extremely interesting. The risk of there is that 504 00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:29.119 he was hurt, but you heard Mike talk about him. If you listen 505 00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:31.559 to this show every day, very very high on Amarus Men's, it wouldn't 506 00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:37.280 be remotely surprising to see Men's go earlier. I'm in for Men's here just 507 00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:40.000 to get some athleticism on the offensive line. Let's just make the pick go 508 00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:45.280 to turbo mode here to wrap up the first round on PFF just for fun 509 00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:51.719 B plus solid stuff. Notice how Jake got his way. He went with 510 00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:55.760 mems. I'm controlling the simulator, James yep, ultimate control. He's trying 511 00:35:55.760 --> 00:36:00.159 to be Bill Belichick of Locked On Bengals. That ain't happening. Man. 512 00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:04.679 Just wait, I'm calling David Locke right now. Go for it. That's 513 00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:08.800 gonna do it. For this episode of the Lockdown Bengals podcast, the championship 514 00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:13.480 games will be complete by the time you hear from us next We might have 515 00:36:13.559 --> 00:36:19.800 some takeaways from those episodes or from those games, and we're gonna talk about 516 00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:22.519 the Bengals linebackers this week as well, in the season they had in twenty 517 00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:25.960 twenty four. Until next time, thanks for listening to this episode of the 518 00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:30.480 Lockdown Bengals Podcast. Hoode and have a good one.