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Yeah, what's up? Whoooo boy, Wendy Williams, let's die.
I mean, I think we can get thirty minutes out of just this documentary.
So yeah, what did you think you were getting into when you started
watching it? Okay? So I was on the phone with Wendy last week
and I think it was like the day after our podcast. I don't know
it was right or maybe even that night, I don't know, And I'm
always like, what are you watching? You know, I'm at the condom,
and She's like I'm watching this Wendy Williams and I and I was like,
yeah, what's going on? Like I see glimpse and like bits and
pieces of things in the press about her. Now I'm like on Hulu and
I'm seeing like these two different documentaries on her and and Wendy Aunty Wendy.
She was like, you know, you got to watch where is Wendy Williams.
She's like, it is really sad to watch and it'll playing What's going
on? And I'm like, so she told me a little bit. So
I started watching it, and of course I was hooked, and I was
kind of really feeling bad for her and don't understand why nobody is taking care
of her or really being a like you know, Britney Spears had a conservative
or a ship excuse me, but she had her dad, you know,
it was her parents that were But Wendy Williams is like, doesn't seem like
there's anybody. Although in the after the first step, then I see her
sister and other relatives in Florida that are really and then her niece meet the
meet the niece. But the first episode, I was like who. My
first instinct was like, who's letting her get in front of the camera like
this. It's this is what was so tricky about it, Kaylin. You
have or have not seen it? I have not seen it. Okay,
it's so you like, we hear about these conservatorships where they get somebody outside
the family and that it is a thing where it'd be really freaking shady.
Well, and these people are like taking your money and they put you in
a home and they do. But like in her case, it's really it's
really hard to tell because you have her whole family does seem like they want
to support her and not just take her money. But do you think there's
a reason why they keep refusing them. That's what the other thing too is.
I mean, look, I'm no experts. I didn't go to law
school or what or whatever the law that you use to get a conservatorship.
I didn't go to conservative law. Yeah you did, you you got you
have a law degree, but not in that type of lot. Okay.
So when my mother was going through her mental illness days, I was trying
very hard, even I had doctor Drew trying to help me. And Drew
explained to me back then, it is really hard to get conservativeship, especially
with family members over somebody. Usually it kind of is like it would have
to be somebody with like the or somebody that the court is appointed to that
family, because they don't the courts don't know who's in it for the right
reason. Now, my mom's bank account was fifty bucks, Like, she
wasn't rolling, you know, in cash, So you'd think it would have
been an easier deal to give you a power of attorney at least over her
medical stuff, right, evencause what are you trying to get right? Right?
So it was it was that was really hard and I never was able
to do it. But also I was young back then and I didn't really
know, like, you know, how to go about I was trying.
But so anyway, conservativeship is I think hard to so quick thing. When
my father was not doing great late later years, but he wasn't even that
old, but I think he was. I think my father, my biological
father, had some type of dementia happening. But he'd also been a pill
addict for a long time, and he also was pretty grandiose, so he
always thought he was putting something over on other people that he was actually vulnerable
and being taken advantage of and some stuff was happening with him where he had
been renting this apartment, but he was thought he was some people basically moved
into his apartment and weren't paying rent. It's like a long story, and
he thought he was getting over on some and he's like, oh, they're
paying me rent, but I get to sleep there, and it was like,
what are you doing? Well? Some woman told him that she was
going to write his memoir, she was going to write his biography, and
she freaking got power was or was trying to get power of attorney. And
to be honest, I'm not one hundred percent sure, I don't think she
did, but I know that she was absolutely trying to and it was a
complete sister like she was trying to get He didn't even have anything, but
she was trying to get a power of attorney. And it was one of
those things like that's in like a lifetime movie where I was warned that this
was going on, and there was nothing to really I because he wasn't telling
me what was happening. Because sometimes you're dealing with people that are have mental
illness, so they don't even know or understand what's happening to them, that's
the thing. And how does the court know who the right right person is
for the job? You know, her son seemed on the up and up,
like he really did care about her. On the other hand, he
was being spending all our money and spent like one hundred ruch dollars, but
like on the other on the other other hand, he'd been accustomed to like
when she was in her right mind, she was or I don't know,
I think she has had addiction for her this whole time. Yeah, but
yeah, so maybe she was spending money that she barely you know, maybe
she was just going crazy with the money and now she's not in her right
mind. So like the court was not happy that the sun was spending money
like it was the old days, and she doesn't have a show anymore,
right, And I know well from my experience with my mom, like part
of the one of the like the mental illness, like the bipolar thing is
my mom was spending on her credit card, just going to buy bathing suits
and shit at Macy's and stuff like she had I got at our hotel room
all this clothes. Like luckily I was able to return a lot of it,
but that's like spending money kind of. I don't know, Like,
I don't know what Wendy's I still didn't know until we did our What's Today
Friday? Go listen to our Wednesday show with Patrick and Ruby from bad TV.
We talked, We talked about Wendy Williams a little bit. I didn't
know that she was on crack. Is that? Yeah? I don't know
how Patrick knows that. I mean, it's probably out there. I mean
it maybe it is. She's definitely a very, very bad alcoholic, and
you know, and she has all these medical problems due to the drinking.
I mean they said that in the documentary. But it's like it's really hard,
you know. I know from experience of being around a lot of people
who are alcoholics that, like, if somebody doesn't want to get better,
like, it's very difficult to force people into treatment. So she kept getting
forced. They kept putting her at rehab, but then she'd come back out
and just start drinking again because like and also when she was under the conservatorship,
like and they were not give letting her have access to the family,
she was worse, it seemed like, right because she just wanted to be
in her apartment, drinking all that. That's the weird thing. Like if
the courts are going to get involved, why can't they like get her with
her family, like she does need to be, Like, you know,
the worst thing right is to isolate is if you're an addict, Like why,
I don't know. And she's got all these mental I mean, she's
got to have all these health issues and mental why shouldn't she She should be
with her family. Why wouldn't I guess you can't tell somebody to go live
with your family. I guess I'm reading too on Wikipedia, just that she
has been open about her cocaine addiction in the late eighties and early nineties.
Yeah, well, yeah, I saw the other documentary after I watched Oh
there's okay, And on Hulu there's another one and it's done. I believe
it's done by the same people. OK. So what happened is is what
we watched was like a four part thing, a glimpse of where she was,
like where she's at right now. I think it was to twenty twenty
one. Two. Yeah, I was like twenty one. She did another
documentary with Lifetime, the same people. It even looks like the same logo
and it says Wendy Williams is crazy because she says it in the documentary,
Okay, and she's not. She's with her faculty, like they're interviewing her
and they're just talking about how she's just basically talking about how her husband really
affected her and I think the affair that he had did a number on her
mentally and making herself self harm with the abuse of alcohol. Like I think
it kicked up the alcoholism because this guy like he you know, they were
she was you know, you got to watch it, but like she was
this up and coming DJ in New York. She was saying she was kind
of like the female Howard Stern and she was saying things like people were thinking.
She talked to like Whitney Houston and interviewed her and they played a clip
and she was like, do you think that Diane Sawyer interview was like like
a misstep, like maybe I shouldn't have done it. And she was like,
oh, you know, Wendy, you're Wendy, Like she was kind
of laughing her off or whatever. So then she's building her career, she's
working her ass off. She's doing overnights on radios, which nobody wants to
do. And then this guy comes along, mister Casanova, and like and
sweeps her off her feet, and it seems to me like he's using her
a little bit. They were married ten years and they had their son together,
but she had miscarriages like while, you know, like in the public
eye, and people were like miscarriages, Like that's what you get for talking
shit about people, You're gonna get punished. So that early on she felt
that way, you know, that she was gonna get you know, So
she was having these miscarriages affecting her. Then he goes and cheats on her
and goes and finds like like almost like they were married ten years, I
don't know, like a seven year affair with some hoe as part as that's
what she called her, you know, And and it's like he's not even
hiding it anymore. And he bought a house like two blocks so he tells
her I'm leaving and I'm out, leaves her and goes shacks up with the
new hoe, who's now pregnant and lives like a couple blocks away from her
home in New Jersey, you know. And then so you're seeing this in
twenty twenty one, and you're going, oh, okay, Like, so
this really did a number on her, and she seems like she's really into
her addiction, but she was already a really bad addict before. It was
because they asked her in the in the current documentary that I saw, they
asked her about her drinking, and she said that the only reason I think
she quit doing cocaine. I think she was, Yes, she was to
remember, and because she wanted to get pregnant. Right, So that was
already she was already probably a drug addict. I'm not saying she deserves any
of that, but I'm saying, like, it couldn't have been the healthiest
relationship. No, Like, no, there was probably a lot of drugs
and alcohol right on within that. So I don't know if we can blame
right, no, I know, drinking just on him. Yeah, I
understand what you're saying. But when you after you watch that four part,
then you go back, you watch, oh this was her like just a
couple of years ago. What the fuck like from then? How fast her
physical Yeah? And what does she have that makes her eyes bulged? Graves
disease? Oh that's graves disease? Wow? Yeah? Well I yeah,
I mean, she has other stuff. She has a lot of stuff going
on, but most of it is caused by the alcohol, but she won't
stop drinking. Also, she's so abusive to her staff. It's like it's
crazy. And you know that scene where they're outside of the vape store and
she just keeps screaming at people and going go back in there and she's not
making any sense, and they're all like, they're all trying to talk to
her, like okay, Wendy, Okay, Wendy, Like you know,
they're all scared of her and her temper. Yeah. I can't imagine being
her child. No, I can't. I would. It would be hard.
I mean I had to deal with it with my mom too, And
like when she got she was mean and she was rude and she was wowed
and obnoxious, like when she got to that mental state later in life,
and it was like, it's hard to take care of somebody like that.
It is you kind of you just have to look look, look past of
what she's saying. Because I don't think she was rude like that to her
staff before she got sick. I don't. I don't know, But watching
that document, she seemed really to love her show. She loved her dressing
room. She was really cool to people. I don't know, I don't
know. I think that's a lot. But isn't that so uncomfortable to the
way she was always like, I'm delicious. I just need to be on
TV. I need to be on TV. People need to put me on
TV. And then weren't you like, didn't you want to be a fly
on the wall of that meeting? Oh? Hell yes, hell yes,
So she's there, so her this weird assistant who's shady? Shady? Yes,
I was just I wanted to ask you about her, like, oh,
yeah, so she was like a publicist or something. And who they
are? They're all like these hangar honors who like start and you don't know
who's good and who's bad. Because there's the guy, the manager, the
manager. Yeah yeah, so now he's this manager. Now he's kind of
left to deal with her. Yeah, because maybe that's not Kevin. Maybe
Kevin's the son's husband. Yes, yes, sorry. The manager is maybe
like Ronnie or something. What's this I don't remember, isn't but he's left
to deal with her why I don't know? And also is he gonna pay
it? Who's is she paying him. She must be right. I mean,
somebody's got to be paying him, otherwise he wouldn't be sticking around.
But he's like coming into our apartment like did you just drink this bottle of
vodka this morning? Like he's he's like a wrangler, right, but he's
also talking to the conservative person the Conservative ship people and getting there okay,
and I guess they're paying they Yeah, they must be paying him from her
bank account or whatever. Somebody's got to wrangle her. Somebody's getting paid.
And that guy, that public sister whatever, he needs to get paid.
They're all getting there. They're all getting there. Yes, yes, right,
yeah, so but this girl yes is like taking her to La Yes,
and then like yeah, we have a meeting at NBC and she's acting
like Wendy Williams is about to have her show back and it was like what
drugs are you doing? Right? Like and Wendy, that's scene where they
go to a restaurant cast Away and she's like, but we're gonna be late.
Oh that was Castaway. Oh I've never been there. I want to
go there. She's like what time is it? What time is it?
Like and then she's like trying to order her gray goosey yes, you know,
yeah, and the girl's letting her right because a couple of scenes earlier,
she's at the restaurant in New York City with the manager and she's like,
you know, at dinner and she's like ordering a glass of wine and
he went and got up and told the waiter don't bring it to her,
give her like a virgin yeah, virgin martini. Yeah, which was great.
But you think, like, is he doing that because he's on camera
and he's trying to look like he's doing his job for the Conservative so he
gets his paycheck from the Conservative ship or does he really do Like doesn't seem
like people those people really cared about him at all. But hot on,
Wendy Williams is completely gone because even when she's sober, she just makes no
sense. No, So then the girl takes her from New York. The
publicist takes her from New York to la on a trip, and I'm thinking
to myself, did they should have filmed that? Like could you imagine me
at the airport with Wendy Williams and getting her on the airplane and all the
you know, shit you gotta deal with her. I don't know who knows
what she said out loud, you know, then flies her to La and
his partner around the city, taking her to a lunch. Wendy wants to
know, is this a fancy restaurant or they're gonna be celebrities? And I
saw really quick and I looked at it. I go, oh, Castaways
on a Wednesday at like two o'clock. Ain't nobody there not going to like
Craigs and Melrose. Thank God? Like the girl knew, like yeah,
Castaways, like find me a restaurant that's off the beaten path that is not
in West Hollywood, Like they did their research, like at what time of
the day, you know, like nobody's there? Good thinking, yeah it
was it was uh And then they she has the meeting at NBC and then
they're like, yeah, the NBC did not give her a TV show and
declined to comment. You're like, she's making no sense, but I will
say this, she thought she was in Miami. Let's let's take a quick
break. Yeah, okay, to wrap up the Wendy Williams stuff, I
was like, she's for sure gonna die like any day, Like this is
this is like Nicholas cage in leaving Las Vegas a level, right, She's
just gonna drink herself to death. And even the guy that we keep talking
about was like, she this is what she wants to do. She wants
to drink her off to death. Like that's how she's gonna go, you
know. But then they put her in rehab for like they send her away
for like six months and I don't know, but she's still alive, right
and is she doing better? Now? We don't really know like they are
they doing? Are they angling for another season or something like yeah, Mindy
Williams Part two, because yeah, I kind of just ended, like wait
a second, like what they kind of Yeah, she went to Florida,
she reconnected with her son and her family. Okay, now where are we?
Like what happened? But then she left them because they couldn't they wouldn't
let her go live with them, right, So is that what happened?
She was in rehab for a long time and they said she was doing better.
They said she was like a little bit more with it, and you
know, because she was sober because she was like literally in a rehab for
six months, which is what needed to happen. But if you're that far
gone already your brain. I imagine you just would eventually, once you're left
your own devices, go back to drinking. So I don't know what's going
to happen. What did you call it? Wet brain? Wet brain?
Yeah, which is that's a drinking term. It's for when people are like
in late stage alcoholism. Oh god, and it just affects your whole mental
Yeah, it's sad. And I A lot of people were saying that it
was extremely exploitive that the production company made it. I didn't think so.
So they thought that that she was tricked and this was supposed to be her
comeback. I think that she probably really did think like I'm gonna I'm having
I'm staging a comeback. Yeah, I think she's and I think the production
company was like okay, And then I think once they were filming her,
they're like, oh this she's not coming back to anywhere, Like this is
really bad, but like we're already committed to filming this, so I guess
we're going to go in this other direction and show what's going on happening to
her. Yes, Because if you watch the first one they did a couple
of years ago, it was like, you know, she was had her
all her faculties and she was telling her life story. Right, you know,
it's called Wendy Williams is what a Mess or something like that. But
it's weird that they called it what a mess because now she is like it
was supposed to be you know, qutt term for a couple of years ago,
right, but now she it's yeah, it is. Yeah. I
think the production company was like, oh god, I guess this is the
direction we're going, and I do, yeah, I do thinks. I
mean, they did have to stop down production many times when she was just
like beyond like I think they probably were like, well we can't, yeah,
we can't air this, like this can't be our responsibility, Like we
can't just watch her kill herself right right. Anyway, it's it's fascinating,
it is fascinating. It's sad, but it is fascinating. Well look,
I mean it's a it's a good lesson, like don't be drinking yourself to
death in your later life. Yeah, you know, if you need Wendy
Williams show to tell you that, that's kind of sound too, but don't
do that. Don't do that. What else have you watched. I watched
a movie last night, and I know this is not your genre, but
you know how I love the sci fi space stuff. Well, I've been
hearing about this movie out, you know, for a while starring Adam Sandler.
You know, he's diving into another one of his serious roles, oh,
you know, like a jazz and so all I knew was it was
called space Man, and it's a picture of him in like a creek with
an astronaut's outfit on. I go, all right, that's all I know
about this movie. Let's do it. Let's get into it. I did
look up the Rotten Tomato score ahead of time, and it was fifty with
the critics and sixty five with the audience. I was like, all right,
let's get into it. And man, I was not expecting what this
movie was. It's so if you do want to watch it, it's not
really a super sci fi movie. It's just him kind of an astronaut who's
in you know, a spaceship that's going to like Jupiter because it's going to
investigate this mysterious cloud that showed up in the galaxy. But it's more about
like him and his emotions and his relationship with his pregnant wife and him like
trying to come to terms with like who he is and analyze himself. So
it's more about that. It's not like super sci fi e aside from the
fact that he's just on a spaceship the whole time, floating around. But
I did not expect this, so he I guess it could technically be on
his head, but I don't you can't really tell. But essentially, this
I guess alien like gets on board the spaceship and like helps him work through
his issues that he's having in his life with his dad, with his with
his wife, and it's it's the alien that's like making him kind of see
his life and all the things that he's done wrong and trying to get him
to analyze himself pretty much, except the alien is like it's a giant spider,
and it's really like, I really don't like spiders, and it's very
off putting. It is voiced by Paul Dano, who I love, so
it's super weird, Like it's him talking to this giant spider floating around in
space for I think it's like two hours. Oh no, I don't remember
exactly how I think it's about two hours, and yeah, it was just
very weird. And you know, I just love Adam Sandler so much that
by the end of it, I was like, Okay, like I am
glad I watched that. I'm not sure how I feel about it, but
it's all right. How many flicks of the mean, I don't know.
I'm gonna have to. I'm going to review it on our water cer.
No, it is serious role. It is definitely a serious role. And
he's great in it. He's because I loved Uncut Gems. Yeah, this
is not as entertaining as No. This is a different style. It's slower.
It's again, it's more of like a character piece. I mean,
he kind of had me until the Spiders. Yeah, and that's when Amy
saw the spiders. She's like, oh fuck this. Yeah, she's in
the other room. Left in love is blind. Yeah. Yeah, so
I'm not terrible. And if you love Adam Sandler, you should watch it.
But if you have an aversion to spiders, you might not be able
to handle. It's like a giant fucking tarantula, like floating around his space
with him. It's creepy. Yeah, I feel like Adam Sandler is trying
to be Robin Williams a little bit with like, but Robin Williams was like
just an amazing actor, you know, but he was able to go from
like comedic roles to you know, adam Uh. Robin Williams in Awakenings was
like, that's like one of my all time favorite movies. I mean that's
just like, no laughs, I need to watch did I is that with
Robert de Niro in this? And yeah, I saw along about Parkinson's about
the patients that are the goat that are in like unresponsive completely. Yeah,
I can't remember. I remember watching it years ago, your dad, Yeah,
and I need to watch it again. I love that movie. Oh
my god, it makes me cry, like, it makes me like sob
every time. Are there movies that you will cry like every time you watch
it? I'm sure there is. I'm just trying to think offhand. You
know, Poet Society makes me cry. I can't watch that movie without crying.
Set it Off. I've told you about Set It Off with Queen Latifa,
and that makes you cry. Oh my god, sob I sob every
time at the really Yeah, yeah, Jada Jada Pinket set it Off?
Is it or Black Women, Kimberly, Elise, Queen, Latifa, Jada
Pinkett, and Vivica Fox. I believe our play these four friends that rob
banks. Oh yeah, you start robbing banks and it's just so good.
I should watch that. It's an action movie that is just like, I
don't know, you laugh, yeah, you cry, but it's I love
that movie. Yeah, because he holds up. I've seen it. I've
seen it probably fifteen times. Oh, I'm gonna watch it because like when
I go to the condo, it's like, you know, in the evenings,
I got nothing really, I mean, you know, other than like
the Housewives and whatever. But I like to watch a movie. It's like
to fall asleep too, you know, because I don't know, I don't
like watching reality TV in the evening for some reason. And there's only so
much reality, you know, so I'm always trying to find something right,
you know what I've been watching. I wanted to jump in, just some
movies that make you cry. I don't think like a movie's ever really made
me cry before. And then you know, I had my girls, so
then like father daughter stuff would like almost get me there, but not quite.
But then one night I took some mushrooms and watched the Interstellar and the
last scene when he's talking to his girl and she's all grown up and she's
like, saves the day. I was crying. Oh okay, I couldn't
hold it back. Yeah that's a dad cry. That's so cute. I
don't think the mushroom's helping. I've only seen John cry one time. I
mean not in life, but I mean watching something one time, and it
was the finale of Six Feet Under. Yeah, I know, he was
cry crying, like tears rolling right. Of course, I was like,
what a pussy, you know what? You know, he gets tierry,
he gets like even just thinking about that finale, it's just like an incredible
I what triggered what triggered me now that you're talking about TV shows was the
uh, what's his name? Ozark? Jason Bateman, but do you read
Did you ever watch Ozark, Stephanie, Yeah, I watched the whole thing.
Oh yeah, so good season where his uh his wife's brother is in
gets arrested and they put him in jail, and she makes she gets him
arrested and put in jail because he's having episodes and mental episodes, right,
But then the next that one really gets me. When he's screaming one day,
screaming her name and he's behind the jail cell. That like, I
just immediately burst into tears every time. And then the next episode when she
takes him out and kills him is like was heartbreakingh like, and she's crying.
She calls Jason Bateman from the car after it's done, and she's just
like sitting there in this like in this like you know, grocery mart parking
lot, and she's the sun's coming up and she tells him it's oh my
god. Like that those scenes got me. Yeah, that's yeah, like
a thing. But you know, are you gonna cry? I cried just
hearing about you almost crying? But uh, I've been watching because sometimes I
wake up in the middle night and I can't fall back asleep, and I'm
like, I just want so I watched, like, did you watch the
twenty twenty this this uh this week about the Jennifer Dula Dulo Dulo's yeah with
the what's his name? What's the guy's name? Yeah, Piccolo or something
like he's got a weird But I didn't know that whole I kind of knew
the story. Yeah, yeah, but I mean twenty was yeah, it
was twenty twenty, not dude, Yeah, it was twenty twenty. Covered
it like from beginning to end. And then like the girlfriend, I didn't
know really anything about his girlfriend. I didn't even know he oh yeah,
like spoiler alert if you don't want to hear it, I'm gonna give a
spoiler. But I didn't know he offed himself. Like, I didn't know
he killed himself. Oh did you know that? No? Yeah, And
so now they they didn't have him to put on trial, so they put
the girlfriend, who was Okay, now I'm gonna have to go back and
live yes one, because no, it's an update twenty twenty. Yeah,
okay, right, it's twenty twenty. Yes, and it's an older story,
but it was updated this week because I heard that one. Yeah.
No, it's a lot of updates, a lot, because that guy was
like the quick talker guy and he was yeah and he no. And then
the girlfriend that he was dating and they found her watch like by her thane,
by the by the river, right, yeah, I remember that whole
story, and he and so he ended up with her friend and they were
like running marathons together, right, No, not the same story. No,
I think you're getting them mixed. Oh I know what one you're talking
about. Oh you do? No. This they lived in Connecticut. She
had two sets of twins and an older daughter okay, five little kids okay.
And he was a he was a construction you know, realtor, you
know, flipping houses in Connecticut, a lot of money and he killed her
right then he got his girlfriend and his girlfriend was in on it as well.
So uh as she was part of you know, Jennifer Rams rams Around.
No, Jennifer doulah du la dulo dulo. It was just this last
week on twenty twenty. Okay, is your podcast behind? I guess what
you're looking up. That's so funny because the Jennifer maybe it was the Jennifer
Rams Around that I was, yes that I was remembering that story, but
I remember this guy. Yeah, I'm on the twenty twenties, so it's
not it's it didn't show up yet notably. Okay, it's fascinating this story.
And again like he you know, kills his wife and then he's got
his girlfriend involved and she and she was involved and she was involved and then
this was actually when they all start running together where they remember the guy that
killed his wife and then blended brought in the baby sitter and her name is
Gypsy. I remember that one they brought it. He moves her in and
like they start they have a relationship and the kids, but he was like,
I didn't do it, and then the kids are like, we believe
our dad. But then later they're like, yeah, it was kind of
weird that Gypsy was our babysitter and they it turned out they'd been having an
affair, right right, you ever, like you're like you're listening for a
while and then you're like, oh, I kind of remember Gypsy, like
yes, yes, yes, yeah, Okay, there's just so many so
yeah, I mean just this story was was really good and it was an
older They already did like a lifetime movie about it. Yeah, it'd re
you know, based on the story. So this is just now an update
because I guess he killed himself and so now they didn't have him to put
on trial, so they you know, now they're putting his lawyer and his
ex girl or his girlfriend the lawyer too. The lawyer too, because they
did a lot of covering up for this guy. You gotta see it.
I mean, they got undercover footage. They put the whole thing together,
he said, he he was very diabolical about it. He got another he
borrowed like a coworker's truck and then had a bike in the back of the
truck. So he parked the truck and then he rode the bike and whatever
like. But the girl was in on it. The girl like helped clean
up, Like, you know, I do write, I know, I
knew, I know this story. Yes, yeah, And then it comes
out later that she helped clean up. Right. She was completely denying having
any knowledge of it for a long time, right, but then they caught
her. Yeah, on video, he's shoving things down a storm drain,
right, and you see her hanging out the truck shoving shit, Like,
what are you doing there? You know? Now they have video footage of
the house from the doorbell from across the street. It's it's the chimney's got
smoke coming out of it, day after the murder, and it's like,
but it's it's Labor Day weekend. Why are you running a fire in your
fireplace in Connecticut when it's one hundred degrees out? You know. So there's
all these other elevant it's really was really interesting story. Let's take a quick
break then. Do you think it was the Jennifer Rams around one though?
That was the one where they, oh, okay, she you're gonna know
what I'm talking about. He was this like smooth top, okay, okay,
true crime, true crime confused. I love it. She was like
into these video games where you're like in virtual worlds, and she was like
like like this guy from England and he was always like busy, and then
she went out to the mall apparently to like go get her kid some new
clothes or whatever, maybe like around Christmas, and then she disappeared, and
then they were thinking that maybe the guy from England that she was having a
emotional affair with like flew out here and killed her. But it wasn't I
him. Meanwhile, her best friend was like, I don't know. The
guy was like into running and running, like running marathons, and then her
friend was like running marathons with him, and they were basically having like a
full on affair. Yes, I remember that, And he had killed her,
right, but was really like a slick guy and was like, there's
so many interviews with him. I've seen plenty of it's probably done all the
forty eight hours the date line, but every time it's just like, well,
I don't know, it's crazy like that anybody who would think that,
right? And did he take her from the mall and kidnap her from the
mall and kill her? I don't think she ever went to the mall.
Oh, she didn't get to the mall. No, But there was another
dateline or whatever where the chicks at the mall and she went to her car
and she got kidnapped out of her car, they you know, and then
they thought it was her boyfriend and blah blah blah. But they have video
footage of her coming out of the mall. Don't go to the mall at
Christmas time, I know, and that between the hours of like five and
nine or five. Just stay there. In daytime, it's usually like in
the evening or first thing in the morning. Go in the morning, Yeah,
go morning, and everybody's there, right right, yeah? Yeah.
Last night, I think you're going to relate to this. It was yesterday
I was listening to the news in general has been really depressingly so I'm just
like I can't. Sometimes I'll listen to the news and then I'm like,
it's just all I know. I can't so I'm like, you know what,
I need to hear something that's really engaging. So that's when I go
to my True crime yesterday, and I sometimes will listen to I will listen
to like true crime, a murder story, you know, on the pre
COREP machine on the machines, not music, because I'm like music my mind
is I agree, man, I need to be hearing a story. They
tell me a story, right, But yesterday I was listening to Invisible Choir,
which I normally love, and it was like a guy that domestic violence
situation. This guy and he murdered his girlfriend and he like with a machete,
and I'm listening to it. I'm like an hour in, and all
of a sudden, I was just like, why the fuck am I?
Like? What am I doing to myself? Like dadist, Like, okay,
I get it, I heard the story, but what am I doing
to my I'm torturing myself? This is such this is such toxic energy I'm
bringing into my life. And then I thought, the thing is that I
love when it's some kind of like psychologically fucked up, or when there's a
mystery or exactly. But when it's just like, let us just retell you
a story, you know who did it? You know, like right at
the beginning, you're like, well, of course this guy did a history
of domestic violence. Yes, And then they're trying to he's trying to go
for an insanity of insanity defense. But I was like, but we already
know he did this, and now we hear all the gory details of what
he did and like this poor woman and I I honestly I just was like,
no, pea out. Yeah, I know, turned it off.
Yeah, and I was like, okay, I gotta listen to something else.
I have the same you know, like I was gonna say, I
I've been watching ever since that case of the pair of Jennifer Crumbley, who
the mom that got sentenced. Okay, the dad is coming out now tomorrow,
Okay his trial starts. I'm excited, Like it's weird, like I
Max, So now I go on, cases are different, Yes, I
love the court cases, right, So I have been just I know,
YouTube is a thing that's been out there for a while, but Jesus Christ
was a Trevor trove of court cases. So I was watching the Jennifer Crumbley,
and I'm really gonna I'm so bummed that she doesn't have that he doesn't
have the same defense attorney as she did, because that was just phenomenal television.
Do like, but she's probably gonna freaking get off because she's gonna hurt.
Her new defense is gonna be that she didn't have proper defense. Oh,
because that defense attorney was not nuts. Yeah, I went back and
watched that stuff that you told me to watch it. I was just like,
what is she today? I know, I know, bitchb cray.
So now her partner is defending him. So uh so, anyway, so
I kind of went back and watched the Jennifer Crumley stuff. Then I started
watching the Ethan Crumbley trial, and then I'm like about to go to bed,
and I'm listening to these like you know, victim impact statements, and
I'm like, what the hell am I doing? I'm right right, there's
comes a time like what am I I? I just crossed the line into
my own I'm getting bit by the by. It's like I own a true
crime dog and now it's turned on me and it's attacking me. Because I
just was like wait one second. Ago, I was enjoying the court case
and the arguments of the closing arguments. Now all of a sudden, I
got like I'm brushing my teeth, and it just goes to the next audio
video thing and it's like and now I'm listening to a victim. And at
first I'm going along with it and listening to it. I'm getting feel ready
for bed too, And then all of a sudden, like you took my
life, I'm like, oh my god, what am I? I did
the same thing like a couple of nights ago. I'm like, I'm poisoning
my brain. I need to watch like some housewives, right, we have
some lends and that happens at the end of date lines. Like sometimes you're
listening to a great case and you're like, oh, it's a who done
it all the way and you're like twist, oh great. But then there's
like that part there's like another ten minutes and you're like, well, what
could the ten minutes be about? And it's all like the parents going at
the trial. At the trial and we got closure, but we'll never get
her back. And then it's like them like and talking and I'm like,
what, no, it's just the sad part, right right right, yeah,
like our life is. And here's what we did to commemorate her.
Every year, we have a parade at the boom like no no, no,
no, no no, now I know who did it and that guy
got put away. And not to be heartless, but like a like of
course, of course talk about the housewives. Let's talk about I cannot.
I just can't stand or eat. I don't know why. I well,
I do know. She's just in her bubble and what the fuck is she
wearing? And if you all waited, there's a video of like this chick
going girl and she's trying to like flick the squiggy le Lenny and Squage,
Like she's got the squiggy Like what like Lenny and Squiggy got her piece of
her hair stuck to her forehead like squiggy right, nobody told her? Yeah,
so like TikTok, there's there's like girls like on the TV trying to
flick it like girl, somebody needs to like, yes, what is she
wearing? By like oh my god, I don't know, but it feels
like cultural appropriation at top of everything else. Really I felt the same way
I go there's something wrong with what she's wearing, wearing some kind of tribal
like you know, it's yeah, it's she's the worst. She's the worst.
And then like if you remember I was telling Wendy, remember like last
year she would be wearing these like braids in her hair, like again with
the cultural appropriation, like with her hair like in corn Will. It's like,
does anybody is anybody in her circle that's going like, hey, bitch,
I don't think so, what's wrong? She's just but there is no
one to root for of these Beverly Hills ladies. You know, I feel
like I'm not sure who though is wrong between the Kyle and Dey like them
not being friends, right, but you know a lot of people are weighing,
and a lot of people don't like Kyle and they're like, well,
they were, but I don't think they were ever real friends. And I
do a little bit on Kyle's side on this because I'm like, but they
were show friends, yes, So like I do believe that they had a
little more of a bond like during filming. Oh, because I think the
husbands. I think that Moe and p K are friends. Yeah, and
those who deserve each other, yeah right, right, right right? Business
dealings like all kinds of like yeah, yeah, so that that's I think
that they bonded. And I think you know, and now Dorriad's claiming like
she's was like lost her best friend, you know, right, but Kyle,
when she was like okay, but we were that you're exaggerating our friendship,
which you're like, I mean, and Kyle's like, when have we
ever? When do we ever go to lunch? Right? Right? And
then Dret's like, well, I would go to lunch with you, but
I think Kyle's like yeah, but I wouldn't go to lunch with you,
Like I don't, like, what are we have in common? Right?
And I I Kyle does have her faults. I don't mind Kyle as much.
But Kyle, if you look at her track record, I'm gonna go
with she's the one telling the truth because she's got a track record of having
really good friends for a year. I mean her best friend hot On that
passed away. I mean, Kyle seems to have relationships that she keeps,
right, she fights with her sisters, that's whatever, But she seems to
where's Dory's friends? Yeah? I seen dor Rico like hey my, you
know, I mean, Kyle's constantly bring and I get it. It's a
lot of it as show, but she's got you know, you hear about
it even off the show. Where else do eat friends? You know?
I think that's a really good point. Yeah, you never hear about Reid
having no Garcel has other Garcels friends whoever? Crystal, Crystal seems to have
other friends, and she had fourteen of them that an't wing to drop of
it. Yeah, it's gonna Crystal bugs me too though she does bug me,
so they all kind of bug me. They do. The new girl
bugs me. I don't know what's going, Like, relax, girl with
the esophagus. They don't have to come in so hot like gauge everybody's temperature.
I get it. You're the new girl and you're trying to find your
place. Relax, Yeah, like easy, yes, start with the shallow
swinging exactly with the esophagus in your hands. Yeah. But I also don't
like Sutton. I know, I don't like Sorry, but she's she so
pretends her whole thing just feels so forced like, and I know everybody's like,
well, she was trying to be so vulnerable this year but like,
bitch, I don't care your husband. You guys have been divorced for a
long time, right, yeah, but he's moving I know a storyline.
Kyle was right though, Remember that scene where she's like, I'm really having
a hard time trying to like feel bad for you because your millionaire husband is
leaving the country. But yet you're you know, like what, like what
the matter? Like what? I can't remember what the issues were, but
yeah, there's nothing to root for with with what's her face? Sutton?
Like, she just I she well, for one thing, she just doesn't
see she seems very cold, and another one that doesn't seem to have a
lot of friends except for the people that work for her. I guess right,
it's a thing that's weird. It's just weird. And she also really
tries to act so scandalized by everything all the time, but then she'll make
a sex joke. But then, like when they were in Vegas, she
was like, I can't watch that. That's I'm on the board of the
ballet board, Like yes, it feels so, but yeah, you're lighting
up a joint on camera, right, like right, so yeah, come
on, I'm covering Beverly Hills by the way, on Rose Pricks, we've
been covering this whole season. We're recapping it. Yeah, and I have
to say, like we always have takes that people disagree with that you would
agree with, but like I'm always kind of I feel like a little bit
in trouble for my takes on her, like for like, well, I
just I think, like I under I do not like dereat. Yeah,
I also feel like Garcel, I think she likes to stir up drama and
then like back step back and be like, you guys work it out.
You know, yeah, I you know, I brought it up. She's
racist right now, you guys. But like because during the thing about Garcel
was the one who brought up that Sutton made out with her driver. Garcel
brought that up at the part, and then when and then when Durite said
it, like well you kissed your driver or whatever, all of a sudden,
Garcel's like, I can't believe you would say that. That's really hurtful.
You're trying to like embarrass her. It's like, Garcel, you're the
one who said it in the first I noticed that that's right, but that
got way overshadowed. When so when she set Doriat into her blaze. I
was like, ooh, dang, Like, yeah, I think it's probably
just irritating to Garcel to constantly deal with and her little microaggressions like right,
this, she's just so out of touch, right, you know? But
I also think I don't know. I was just like, okay, already
with these saying she can't say the word attack, And then when she brought
up like oh in the reunion, when she was like, oh, well,
you should know the difference. You should know that it's about what a
real attack is, because didn't you have a home invasion to your house and
you've got attacked into your head? And it's like, okay, that's that's
hitting below the belt. But then also coming up this week, apparently she's
going to be accusing her of like faking the home invasion, which is yeah,
which is it? Remember when you're in the Coming Attractions, when she's
like, I just find it weird that so these robbers left your phone for
you, like that was nice of them? Right? Oh god, you
know, here's the thing. I'll just say this. They blew up the
Real Housewives of New York cast for what Okay, what did we get out
of it. I love those whack of doodles. They were fucking great and
they had real friendships Ramona and Luayne, and bring them back. Get rid
of fucking Beverly Hills. Get rid of these old big they are not likable.
Come on, Andy, I agree, I agree, all right,
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