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This episode is sponsored by base Camp. Here's what happens when you use base

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untimy, which is most undignified.
Don't never get away with this. Oh,

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but I think I will, Maya
Crowley, what side close this vault

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door? You'll only have sixteen hours
of air to breathe, That is,

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unless that purple hair do gooder,
the scratch man, can solve my buggle

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and unlock the door. Who are
you, my dear Maya Crowley, I

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am the buggler. My card this
just should I just put it in your

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shirt pocket? Door? Is that? Just? What ones? In zeros?

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It's a binary sequence? Wherein I
have been coated jeep hees coordinates for

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no less than three geostaches, each
containing a piece of an ancient map.

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Wherein I have written further instructions in
ultra violet ink. Three hours later,

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and if the notes are played in
precisely the right order, a prism will

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scatter its light directly on the surface
of my card, spelling out my name

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the pargler. Usually I say,
you're a madman, but I meant it

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insultingly, but I think you actually
might have some sort of disorder that is

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so unnecessarily complex it would take someone
months to come up with that says you,

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sixteen hours starts now, I have
every confidence that Scratchman can save me.

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But if he did all that for
his business card at all, I

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don't feel like he has a real
clear idea of how long it takes to

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solve his boggles. No, no, no. In the pristine wooded wilderness

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of America's northwest, one man depends
truth, justice, and ecological sustainability from

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the forces of evil. Squatchman,
Squatchman, squatch Man YOA. Meanwhile,

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it's Stately Smithson manor Blaine Smithson,
independently wealthy ecological activist and alter ego of

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Squatchman, is just sitting down for
lunch. Excuse me, Master Blaine.

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I've just got off the phone with
Commissioner Willamette. What I don't care?

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Have they say it? The Commissioner
has just called and apparently the scratch symbol

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has been on for the last five
hours. It's a buddy Pacific Northwest.

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Everything's overcast. Can't see anything projected
into the air. He's the rubber it

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may has been captured, mocked in
a vault. Seems a bogglers up to

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his own tricks again. They want
you to come save him. Well,

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of course he left clothes. He's
the boggler. Well, all I've got

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is this ancient piece of q A
form tablet. Huh ha ha. Look,

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I see how you went from q
A form to q bowl to pool

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hole. But I think he's a
bit more elaborate than that. Well,

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you have to dig a bit deeper
massively, perhaps, so we should retire

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to the scratch hole. All right, No, no, no, no,

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no, no no, we've been
over this. It's not pool hole.

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No no, no, you've been
at this for the last four hours,

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and all you've got is pool hole. Here. Let me have a

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crack at it. Oh say,
it's a hexadecimal Fibinacci sequence in which it's

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number cluster references a specific Crayola color, then gives a those colors to color.

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In this picture of the amburglar that
was taped to the back of the

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Quinea form tablet, he's pointing to
the sickness star cluster, which, as

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we all know. No. Four
hours later and I take the pot roast

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out of the oven, cut it
in twain and fil up. The numbers

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are the combination are the vault may
Too. Now it looks like you've got

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about twenty two minutes to save the
mayor may too. No no, no

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no no. Unfurling his wondrous wingspan, our hero uses his powerful purple propellants

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to make haste to the city center. But will he be in time?

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Oh? Holy yes, wow.
Well that's that's what you get, everybody.

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We've just spent the last hour coming
up with a whole new superhero top

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shelf drama. It is great.
We haven't done a superhero intro. I

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don't think so we have, we
don't remember it. It was to you,

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you know what's you know what's been? I'm Dave Stecco. By the

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way, Hi Dave Stecco, Yes, son of um it stole it.

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Hi David Flora. Are you sure
you're not Dave Stacco? Because sometimes Jesus

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right, what one hundred and fifty
some odd episodes that we've done and during

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the live show, I have to
that was awesome to is you were thinking

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about me anyways? Hi? Exploy
photos. Yeah, I was. What

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I was saying is that I was
getting around all the the uh Patreon rewards

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ready, you know, trying to
come up with a list of greatest hits

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for intros. Yeah, we've done
so many now that to sit down and

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listen to each intro in its entirety
takes hours. That blows in my mind.

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I thought, like, to my
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parents always see their kids perennially as
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I don't know, half an hour, we can get through them all?

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Right? Then? Wrong? Wrong. The good part is when a bad

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one comes on that we remember and
we remember that it wasn't that great.

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Yeah skip skip. Yeah, you
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going to be a keeper. But
there are some that I've forgotten entirely about

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vam prex blah that was great.
Forgot all about that one. Yeah,

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we we we actually expanded the album
that we're going to send to Patreon.

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Yeah, backers who got the reward
level of intros and better or yeah whatever.

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So yeah, we're we're going to
send about twenty intros yeah to people.

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It's a big one, about an
hour's worth of material. Yeah,

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exactly. It's a full episode of
just no information so anyways, Uh,

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patreons, great guys, go over
to patreon dot com slash boy photos and

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it's the part at yeah if if
I hope, Oh what your whistle?

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Yeah, the whistle. The whistles
are wet and in the well lamb at

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river wink. Oh, but that's
not where you're here. You're here because

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it's great photos and it's shooting ourselves. And uh, next week, you

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guys. For this week, I
wanted to get everybody a week to to

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really. I know that we touched
on it briefly here and there, but

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uh, Misscrypted twenty sixteen. Can
you fucking believe that? For It's amazing

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how quickly these things come up on
Yeah, miscrypted is upon us. Uh,

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you'll have your first Miscrypted minisoda next
week if you have. Nominations are

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open right now, everybody, if
you want to nominate someone for them twenty

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sixteen, Misscrypted. You got as
of this thing coming out maybe a three

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or two forty eight hours as I
as I said it going right as I

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said it was put that mind.
Yeah, you got like forty eight hours.

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You got a real short wind now, But hey, you know what,

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I think that we should reward the
people who are listening to this to

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day it comes out it's true.
Well, I'll tell you what if anybody

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has sent in one in the past
year, though, resend it just in

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case. Yeah, we don't want
to miss anything. And think about how

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many we had in the last couple
of years that have been really great suggestions

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by listeners, So I don't want
to miss out on that. On that

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goodness. Not to mention, we
got a really great book from a listener

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Amy, Oh, yeah, which
is awesome. It's a dictionary of cryptozoology.

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If you want to get your own
copy, it's by Ronan Colan Coglin.

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Yeah, sure, Colin Colin.
Maybe yeah. I don't know how

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irish you want to get with it, but it is fascinating and it is

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exactly what you want if you're if
you're making a league of extraordinary crypto Yeah,

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that's right, gentlemen, cryptids.
It's it's very simple. It's just

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it lists, in alphabetical order,
the name of the crypto and a short

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description. You couldn't get more simpler
than this, but it has We've already

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checked. We we did. I
told Dave throw out a crypto. Yeah,

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let's check it, and sure enough
it was. It was legit.

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It's just a test bat squatch is
in here, yep? But is uh?

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Is billionaire environmental activist Blaine Smithson in
there? Why? Why would he

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be? Who? Why? Why
would you? Uh? Why would you

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even bring him up? Although looking
in it now it looks like it is

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missing Alba Store. Alba Store is
more of mythology than crypted, isn't it.

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I guess, I guess if you
want to go down that pay if

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you wanted to be that kind of
person. But this is great, Thanks

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Amy, We're going to use it
to get us some good contestants. Misscrypted

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twenty sixteen. Don't forget you can
uh. Once we get it going,

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you can go on the website and
vote yep, which will if you choose

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to. You don't, you're not
obligated to, but you can enter your

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name for a chance to win a
Miscrypted twenty sixteen prize pack of your own.

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That's right. At the end of
the deal, we do a drawing

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and one lucky winner gets a prize
pack, which has included such things as

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books, candies, T shirts,
T shirts, glasses, the Golden Goatman,

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and your very own replica Golden Goatman
Trophy. Anyways, let's let's get

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down to business tax. Yes,
let's tax the businesses. Get down to

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Bressa. We got a good episode, great episode. We're gonna be talking

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about something very interesting, intriguing,
mysterious and Mutton muscle car. Muscle car.

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Well, we were actually going to
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we got it turned out to be
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kind of had to it was.
It was when we were getting ready for

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the live show and everything, so
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now we're circling back around to it. Yeah, that's right, throwing to

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get into our windowless van and driving
it to parts unknown. Yet another listeners

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suggestions you for this although it's it
is one that I have wanted to crack

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into for a while. This one
made the rounds with I think Mysterious Universe

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may have may have done a little
bit on it. But the stuff they

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don't want you to know, the
house works, the mortal enemy of stuff

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you should know. Yeah, it's
the same family of the stuff you should

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know, guys, but it's the
conspiracy kind of thing or you know.

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I got into that. I like
when I like when you you just gave

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me a little giggaty gigginty head when
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to get to it while for a
while. I'm glad somebody suggested it.

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But we're gonna be talking about Cicada
thirty three oh one. WHOA, that's

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an address that you can send us
money to, isn't it? No?

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No, you know what all the
ways we have for you to send us

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money that's not one of us is
not one. I think this is an

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interesting one, Cicada thirty three oh
one. Let's give you a little overview

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about it and get get into some
of these a little bit being cryptic about

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it and just do it. On
January fourth, twenty twelve, a cryptic

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message began making its way onto message
boards all around the Internet, and it

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may have started on the website four
chan. Ah, nothing, we're in

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trouble. If we're starting at four
chan, can you give us a quick,

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a quick how's your father on?
What four chan is? Yeah?

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All right. Imagine you're in a
maximum security federal penitentiary and there is a

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forum wherein the various kinds of offenders
and felons meet to share ideas um and

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then but then there's another forum for
all the felons. They got kicked out

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of that forum, and it meets
down the hall. That's four chan.

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It's it's all of the worst parts
of the Internet, and it's where the

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the the offensive is. Like it
commonplace, not what I mean, it's

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like, it's like, it's like
the highest form of art. It is.

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It is where uh, intolerance and
sexism. You know, it's where

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every bad impulse gets raised occasionally to
do an actual art where you're like,

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wow, you you really put some
time into that. But yeah, it's

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a bad place. It's a terrible
place. Weird four chan, So the

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hacker known as four chan, Yeah, exactly. So this message seemed to

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be a call of sorts to recruit
the brightest minds the planet had to offer,

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and they assumed they were in four
Chan. The recruiting tool, it

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seemed, was a puzzle, which
led to more puzzles, which led to

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you guessed it, more puzzles,
Frank Stallone always no, it was more

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okay. It included a short note
of text and an image of sixteen cicadas,

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The first clue in this soon to
be uncovered lengthy, complex, mysterious

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recruitment puzzle. Now as time went
on, the crypto puzzle grew in fame,

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and new puzzles were released on the
one year anniversary of that first puzzle.

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The complexity of them grew with each
one as well. Clues involved several

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types of media, including Internet images, music, books, software, telephones,

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and even physical signs. References in
the clues also spanned an incredible variety

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of material, including philosophical, mathematical, artistic, literary, musical, and

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technological works, among others. Some
of these had works by mc escher,

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Rest, Mutant, Lenox, the
Probe, Yeah, Linux, Operating the

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Open source operating system, Prime Numbers, Bach, Nietzsche, and even Captain

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Carl Jung himself. Damn it,
there he is, There he is.

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In addition, clues were spread around
the globe, adding to the mystery and

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theories that this was a large and
well funded organization. To this day,

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the clues apparently continue you and no
resolution has come about. Some have claimed

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to have solved the riddles. Some
have even claimed to have been recruited into

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the inner circles. However, no
one has figured out who this mysterious group

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is, which has come to be
known as Cicada thirty three oh one because

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of that initial clue. Yep,
So we'll be taking a look at the

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timeline of puzzles, some of the
puzzles themselves, the influence of the strange

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recent enigma, and some theories as
to what it or they could be.

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Yeah, this is just a fun
um, you know, techno mystery that

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that some people decided to to gin
up and it's it's fun to try to

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get to the bottom of it.
Yeah, very recent and very strange and

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mysterious. Yeah, because you know, like four chan itself. So how

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about a timeline here? Yeah,
very short, very short, but since

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it started in twenty twelve. January
fourth, twenty twelve, the original message

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appears. The text reads as follows. Hello, we are looking for highly

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intelligent individuals. To find them,
we have devised a tast There is a

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message hidden in the image. Find
it and it will lead you on the

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road to finding us. Let me
look forward to meeting the few who will

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make it all the way through.
Goodlock three three zero one. That's my

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robot voice. It's pretty good,
Thank you, pretty good. The text

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was accompanied by sixteen cicadas in a
four by four pattern that was the image

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that was with it now January fifth, twenty thirteen, the slash X and

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slash B image boards on four Chan. I have no idea what these are.

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I'm not versed in four chan very
well. Just slash B is the

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worst. Okay, they started show. I'm not being very specific, but

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it just it just is man,
all right. So rather than we just

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keep wondering, here's a quick version
in two four chan, and I went

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to the slash B board, which
is four random things. As it says,

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the stories and information here are artistic
works of fiction and falsehood. Only

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a fool would take anything posted here
as fact. First post I see here

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by an anonymous sky is it the
anonymous? It could be them? It

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says twenty years today, twenty one
years today, beat slash B twenty one

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years of virginity, twenty one years
in, Still sober, twenty one years

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and still wondering why I keep getting
up each morning. Not really sure why

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I'm posting about it, but here's
to those who've lasted longer than this.

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The replies are as follows, Grow
the fuck up and either do something about

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it to achieve your goals, or
give up on those goals and quit fing

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whining. Jesus H. Christ.
Another proposal about this one. It's your

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choice to be a little bit about
it. Make a change. Here's another

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one. Just a picture poop in
a toilet, says rate my log.

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Wow, yeah, yep, yeah, that's that's just it. That that

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is just how this, you know, wis goes. I think with that,

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just that quick flash that you gave
me three three, three and a

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half, it wasn't that great.
Well, I mean, there's a lot

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you should probably learn before you really
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all right, all right, So
anyways, that's that's how they roll.

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So we've got another image with a
with a message on it. It

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comes out and it reads as follows, Oh whoa, I can our search

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four hind hell edge and anti Vigia
walls now conten us. He's got a

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little a little Minnesota. He's it's
a robot, all right. Sorry,

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in your walls now, Antaniel faul
Cramp fall cramp. Sorry. The first

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clue is hidden with him image.
Find it and it will lead you on

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the road to finding us. We
look forward to meeting the few that will

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make it all the way through goodlock
three three zero one. January six,

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twenty fourteen, a Twitter handle used
by the Cicada organization tweeted a link to

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an image with the following text,
all epiphany is upon you. Our pilgrimage

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has to be gone and line ten
menta weights go aodlock three three zero one

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January fifth, What year, Dave, twenty sixteen sixteen? That's this year

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and not twenty fifteen. Nope,
I mean the way it was going,

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it looked like it was going to
be January seventh, twenty fifteen. The

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guy was super hung over. A
tweet from the Twitter handle had a link

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which led to an image with the
following text, one more time'll all the

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path lies empty. Epiphany seeks that
they voted. Liber Primus is on the

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way. Its words are the map, their meaning is the road. Their

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numbers are the direction. Seek and
you will be found. Good luck three

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three zero one, Beware false paths, verify open PGP seven eight three five

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zero nine zero app And now everyone's
mobile device and computer has crashed. Yeah,

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exactly. Uh so that's where we're
at. That that is that is

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a refreshingly brief timeline of events,
But that's not that that doesn't really tell

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as much, does it. No, didn't tell you anything, dude.

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How about we crack into a puzzle
and that might give you a better idea

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of what we're dealing with. Huzzle
within a riddle within an enigma, wrapped

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in secret. To put that in
a SUVI three hours, I'm letta take

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it back out. I've got some
smoked paprika. The puzzles truly require a

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wide breadth of knowledge, including coding, cryptography, history, art, and

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countless other fields. People have worked
together to solve these, which seems to

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be in violation of thirty three oh
one's unspoken set of rules. Which,

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then, how is it in violation
if they're unspoken and the thing talks once

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a year? Well, it's at
least that's at least according to one cryptographer

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who supposedly made it very far down
the rabbit hole on his own. Yeah,

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that gets so full of it.
But since the puzzles have been out

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for a while, the solutions have
been made available on numerous websites and wikis.

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I'm gonna link to a couple of
these, So let's go. Let's

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let's let's look at the rabbit hole, and let's size it up and reconnoiter

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the rim taca loogie down at see
how long it takes to hit bob wait

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for the splash and that's gross.
And then let's look really bad. If

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there's an actual rabbit at the bottom
of that hole. I feel like a

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real piece of ships a crawl,
all right, So the first clue,

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there's a message hidden in this image? Yep? What do you do for

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that? First clue? Technically was
the areas a message hitting in this h

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image? Hidden? Hidden? Can
this image? Fine? Hit um?

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If you were to open that in
um word pad instead of an image viewer,

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you're gonna get what you'd expect,
just scrolling gibberish, just lines and

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lines of code and numbers and letters
and all that. Everyone's seen that at

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one point or another. Yeah,
except at the very bottom. There's little

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nugget there for you. What's it
say? Far In the final line of

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the code, it says Tiberiv's Klavdiv's
Caesar says, now here's the thing,

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though, keep in mind the way
they used to engrave, because round,

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rounded things are harder to do,
and actually, do you even exist?

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Then? Do they just use vs? For everything? Doesn't matter? But

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in Old Roman. Uh, they
used vs instead of us. So actually

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what you're looking at is Tiberius Claudius. Caesar says l x xt greater than

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three three M two m q k
y V two g s q three q

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equals w clothes brackets O two in
t K. Now this is a clue

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because it's pointing towards a what they
call a Caesar cipher, which is a

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type a way of encoding information that
was invented. Guess guess who buy sesar?

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No it was a Yeah, it
was an old Roman style of cipher.

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Was that what they call a substitution
cipher? Oh? Yeah, which

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is I mean, that's that's your
classic um little or Fanani decoder ring numbers

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and letters. You know, every
number of correspunds to a specific letter,

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and you have a button and you
can change that on the fly. So

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as long as you know, you
know from a Christmas story, set your

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buttons to B two. So now
you've aligned B with two, so C

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is three, you know, and
you go through there and then they give

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you a series of numbers. It's
a very easy substitution cipher. Yeah.

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So if you had a code where
it said there's a shift of one A

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would be replaced by B B,
would b C just like you said.

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So it's named after Julius Caesar,
who apparently used it to communicate with his

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generals. Once decoded, this message
is a link to another image, that

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of a wooden duck decoy, and
it has text that says, whoops,

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just decoys. This way looks like
you can't guess how to get the message

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out. Actually, I put the
emphasis on those words. I was gonna

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say, actually in the are you
telling me something foreshadowing? Okay, that

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image can apparently be decoded using the
steganography software out guess, Dave, what

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is stagnography. It's a practice of
a concealing messages or information within other non

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secret text or data. So one
of the things that we for example,

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micro images in a larger image.
You could take a picture, shrink it

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down so that data is encoded to
just a few pixels in a larger picture

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of I mean, and this is
something that terrorists use. Isis uses.

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Taliban used to use a lot.
We got pretty wise to it. But

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you know, oh, I'm just
sending my friend a picture of a motorcycle

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and in the fender there's a if
you know right where to highlight and expand

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boom, huge image with whatever information
text, whatever you want is in there

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now. The result of this was
a message saying here's a book. Code

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to find the book and more information
go to. And then they had a

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reddit link, and then it had
seventy six number sequences which read like one

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colon twenty two colon three, three
colon pou, etc. Etc. Three

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colon pou. Yes see what I
did. The subreddit contained lots of different

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text posts and two images, one
titled Welcome and one titled problems using out

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guests. Welcome's message was from here
on out, we will cryptographically sign all

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messages with this key. It is
available on the mit key servers. Key

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I D seven A three five zero
nine zero F as posted there is I

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don't want to make you redo that, but I feel like there was supposed

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to be a niner in there.
They catch a niner as posted in A

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two E seven J six IC seven
zero J patience is a virtue, good

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luck thirty three zero one three three
zero one and Dave, what was problems

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message? The key has always been
right in front of your eyes. This

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isn't the quest for the Holy grail, idiot, idiot, stop making it

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more difficult than it is. Ah, good luck three three zero one.

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The sebreddit image header and the title
of the page are different representations of the

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same sequence of numbers ten two fourteen
seven, nineteen six, eighteen twelve seven

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eight, seventeen zero one niner seven
fourteen eighteen fourteen one niner thirteen zero one

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two zero. It's like counting to
twenty in an improv game. Yeah,

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that's the worst. I wish the
podcast was interacting because at this point,

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if this was like live somehow,
I'd be like, guys, can we

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just say? Then there was some
numbers? Do you need the actual moment,

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I could put up a slide that
was silly. Yeah. The code

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is a key by which the text
posted on the sebredit can be decoded to

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reveal another story about King Arthur.
Well, how would anyone if wanted,

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someone wanted to learn more about King
Arthur, how would they go about that?

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You could go to episode ninety nine, ooh nice and learn about him

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exactly from blurry photos. Yeah,
it's a podcast. Now you could use

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that. Uh and it says uh
and that is the book that the book

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code is used with which is all
well and good. But at that point,

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you gotta find king Off. I
mean, I wanted the code.

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I want more, you know,
mysteries on the Internet. But I get

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moved. I gotta find king OFFA. I don't have time to go through

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ciphers and sequences, the reasons,
numbers and numbers, when when it all

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boils down to the simple fact that
I gotta I gotta find him. Why

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do you think I was on the
Bata Male sub froom on fourtune in the

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first place. I mean I came
there because I wanted I gotta find King

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of the Guys. I'm getting real
tired. Go back to episode ninety nine

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for the origin event. When the
book code is used, a phone number

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was revealed. Was it your phone
number? Yes, it was four three

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nine zero nine six zero eight,
tell me late. When the number was

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called, a recording played which said, very good, you have done well.

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There are three prime numbers associated with
the original final JPEG image three three

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zero one. There's one of them. You will have to find the other

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two. Of course, multiply all
three of these numbers together and added dot

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com to the find the next step. Good luck and goodbye, phone number

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has since been deactivated. Also,
I really hope there's just a handful of

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people that already know that by now
they like heard a phone number like,

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Okay, I'll just call it,
see what happens. The original image was

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five hundred and nine by five hundred
and three pixels. Those two numbers are

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the other two primes. The product
of five hundred nine, five hundred three

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and thirty three oh one is Dave
height four five one four five one two

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seven no nine ers, sir,
nope. At the website, there was

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an image of a cicada and a
countdown. The image of the cicada contained

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an outguess message which read patience is
a virtue. Check back at seventeen hundred

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dollars. On Monday ninth of January
twenty twelve Universal time code. At the

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designated time, the site changed to
reveal a string of numbers. You gotta

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you gotta re you full of pie? Yet, man, they're really just

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okay, yeah, well you might
be a little cicada out right now,

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right, Yes, Perhaps that's why
they included a bit about patience. Maybe

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probably not, if you can believe
that this was still from the first clue

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and only about halfway through that puzzle, it went on to include coordinates to

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places all around the world where a
picture of a cicada and a QR code

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was to be found. Dave,
what is a a QR code? People

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have seen these things around. They're
more popular now. There's plenty of apps

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on the phone read them. Um. They are those sort of checkerboardy looking

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patterns. Imagine U two barcodes.
If you took one barcode and kind of

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rotated at ninety degrees and then put
them over each other, with them kind

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of weaving in between. It's it's
a version of a barcode. It's an

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optical way of encoding information. And
if you have a QR reader, um,

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you know you can. You can
even get patches made. You know,

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bike messengers have them sometimes that just
you know, hey, take a

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picture of this. If you've got
that app enabled, then it'll tell you

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more about the thing that it's describing. So yeah, they're they're becoming more

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and more popular. Yeah, they're
they're those just the squares. You'll see

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them on advertisements and they look like
a super weird checkerboard. Yeah, it's

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the best way I can kind of
quickly and quickly describe them. I haven't

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gotten into them yet. I don't
know about you. I'll tell you what.

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I never I have an app on
my phone that can read them.

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I've never once done it because I
don't. I don't know enough about them.

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I don't know what it redirects a
phone too. Is that some portal

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to get website? And yeah?
Is that a portal to get some downloaded

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on your phone that you didn't want? I don't. I don't honestly know

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which has got it. So old
man saying, I don't know they're gonna

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steal my identity? Is that going
to cause the kids to come into my

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yard? So I don't want that
from that? And at this point,

405
00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:25.319
I don't feel like any vital information
has ever been left strictly to QR codes.

406
00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:29.359
I don't think anyone is like,
well, it's super important, so

407
00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:32.000
we'll just put it on this sticker. Yeah. Well, not all of

408
00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:37.240
these physical signs were found, apparently, but the QR codes that were found

409
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:44.240
had links to rls with cicada images
to be used in out guests. Then

410
00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:49.440
the poem Agrippa by William Gibson was
found in there, and then an email

411
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:53.640
with more instructions, including one to
not collaborate or share and to be careful

412
00:32:53.839 --> 00:33:00.599
of many fake messages was sent to
the players, I calling it player just

413
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:04.200
to right well, you know,
and of course at that point, once

414
00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:06.599
it's a thing, especially on Reddit, then yeah, people are going to

415
00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:10.119
make up you know, red herrings
and fake stuff. And now William Gibson

416
00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:15.960
is that the neuromanswer author? Is
it? Let's find out now? Quick

417
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:22.240
question? If I just type William
into Google, who do you think the

418
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:25.440
first William is that comes up?
Oh? Man? How many do I

419
00:33:25.480 --> 00:33:29.759
get? Just one? No,
I'll give you three, William Wallace,

420
00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:35.279
William Shakespeare, William Jefferson Clinton,
One out of three, you got the

421
00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:39.279
number two position, Shakespeare. No, Shakespeare is not in the top three,

422
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:45.519
which is a sad thing. Number
one William Shatner. Oh, number

423
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:52.160
two, William Wallace. You know
there's kind of the set the there's William

424
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:54.400
Street shop. William Street is the
production company for Adult Swim, So I

425
00:33:54.400 --> 00:34:00.000
can see how that goes. But
the next William is williams Sonoma. Then

426
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:06.720
is this calculated to your cookie?
Is not calculated to my cookies? We

427
00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:08.960
made a rule about talking about our
cookies on here. Rules and made to

428
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:13.719
be broken. Man, just like
all the dishes at Williams Noma. Yeah,

429
00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:16.480
that's right, I disagree with it. It is it's the same William

430
00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:21.599
Gibson. So this is what the
puzzles were like. We will spare you

431
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:25.039
the breakdown of each one. Thank
you, jeebus. One interesting note is

432
00:34:25.079 --> 00:34:30.880
the Liber Primus, which is the
name of a sixty page book of runes

433
00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:35.039
that was at the end of the
twenty fourteen version of the Cicada thirty three

434
00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:39.039
oh one puzzle. The book is
still undeciphered up to this day due to

435
00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:44.559
the fact that many puzzle solvers were
frustrated by it. Now a lot of

436
00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:47.079
it has been deciphered, some in
the beginning, some at the end.

437
00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:52.199
Yeah, some of the middle people
can't figure out what's going on though this

438
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:57.199
part is is weird to me.
It seems a little out there for the

439
00:34:57.599 --> 00:35:01.719
rest of the puzzles for the thirty
three oh one stuff. So I don't

440
00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:07.199
know. It's it's hard to it's
hard to spend time on it. It's

441
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:09.599
hard to not spend time on it
because it's yeah, it'll come up again

442
00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:14.400
here when we right. It's it's
not it's not exactly sexy, fun stuff

443
00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:16.440
to talk about, but it also
does fill in details of the story,

444
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:20.400
so it's tough to know kind of
where to edit it. Yeah, and

445
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:24.400
it's not as interesting as the voyage
manuscript. Right, people can actually break

446
00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:29.760
this down and figure it out,
and yeah, we'll get back to it.

447
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:32.800
Um, sounds like what you need
here in this situation is a swede.

448
00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:36.559
You gotta you gotta he there,
Paul, Paul, you got a

449
00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:38.360
swede. You got a swede that
could help us out. Paul, got

450
00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:45.400
a swede. Dave, Swedish man. Dave, All right, let's get

451
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:50.280
us a swede on the case.
One guy who claims to have gotten pretty

452
00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:52.719
far into this puzzle has been interviewed
a number of times when when if you

453
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:57.760
do any research yourself, you'll see
this guy come up. Joel Ericsson is

454
00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:05.400
a thirty four year old cryptosecurity research
and developer from Sweden and initially thought it

455
00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:07.400
would just, you know, just
a bit of fun. But then he

456
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:12.440
got swept up into it and he
made it all the way to the quote

457
00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:15.679
unquote the email stage, which makes
it sound like a side scrolling video game,

458
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:21.559
right, But apparently he was too
far behind the others, as according

459
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:23.840
to him, thirty three oh one
had put up a message stating that they

460
00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:29.000
were disappointed in the groups of people
that had formed to share parts of the

461
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:32.039
puzzle they discovered without any one member
completing all the steps along the way,

462
00:36:34.239 --> 00:36:37.760
as Ericson himself had done. So
this is you know, the people who

463
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:40.960
are creating this are like, ah, damn it, you guys, this

464
00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:45.679
isn't for team ups, this isn't
for group problem solving. And then it

465
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:50.079
also frustrates Eric because he's trying to
play the game according to the rules,

466
00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:53.039
and he's behind all these, you
know, teams of people that are doing

467
00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:58.760
it. I see that teams of
teams, team teams, team Titan.

468
00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:05.480
It's what's quiet disappointing, Ericsa says, especially considering that the people who registered

469
00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:09.039
in time were mostly ones that had
not actually solved much of the pozzles themselves.

470
00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:15.000
People were sharing solutions and collaborating a
bit too much. I won't do

471
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:19.440
more of that, okay, but
I was loving it, okay. When

472
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:22.880
asked who he thought might be behind
it, he said, Dave Staco's a

473
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:25.639
liar. I'm getting a full number
to call. After solving one of the

474
00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:31.199
pieces of the puzzle, all right, he quotes he said. Getting a

475
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:35.960
phone number to call after solving one
of the pieces of the puzzle was the

476
00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:38.960
first hint that this might not just
be the work of some random Internet troll.

477
00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:45.639
So this was definitely an unexpected turn. The plot thickened even more when

478
00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:50.199
receiving a number of GPS coordinates.
I also can't help but notice that the

479
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:53.920
locations in question, USA, Poland, France, South Korea, and Australia

480
00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:59.000
are all places with some of the
most talented hackers and IT security researchers in

481
00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:02.440
the world. Now, yeah,
thank you, thank you for your skeptics

482
00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:06.519
face. Yeah, what are you
gonna say? I mean, it just

483
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:09.880
seems like hackers in IT security researcher
can be anywhere her. Yeah, I

484
00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:13.519
couldn't help, but notice that China
is not on the list. Uh,

485
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:17.360
the UK. I'm sure there's some
great ones. Probably there's probably one hidden

486
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:21.039
in Egypt. Oh maybe, Um
have you heard of this? I don't

487
00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:25.840
know if I'm pronouncing it correctly,
motherfucking Russia. You know, like everywhere,

488
00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:32.280
okay, everywhere, and yeah,
everywhere has hackers like to just be

489
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:37.519
like, well, I couldn't help
but notice this, this list charmony.

490
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:40.280
Yeah, come on, man,
Poland really listen. I'm not saying there

491
00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:46.280
aren't hackers in Poland. But is
Poland known for their top shelf hackers?

492
00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:52.760
Honestly? But but who is known
for the right? China? China is

493
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:57.000
the only one that comes to mind
that that like, oh, everyone's like,

494
00:38:57.039 --> 00:39:00.679
oh, those damn Chinese hackers.
They're at it again. It's true.

495
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:01.920
Wait, who is the one who
did Who is the one who did

496
00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:07.000
Sony? Who hacked Sony? Yeah, I don't know. I forget some

497
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:09.880
country did that. They were the
ones who was a country took response?

498
00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:15.079
I think so maybe I'm wrong.
I'm so very often right now. And

499
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:16.679
you know, ever since I got
caught by the government, I'm out of

500
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:21.079
the game. I only do a
security consulting because of my hacking days.

501
00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:23.079
I was quite the elite hacked soldier. Yeah you were. You were quite

502
00:39:23.079 --> 00:39:28.519
the Hackerman. It was a hackerman, all right, let's see here.

503
00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:32.199
He went on to say that intelligence
agencies commonly use non traditional forms of recruitment,

504
00:39:32.360 --> 00:39:37.519
makes sense, but don't usually hide
their identity. Ericson's theory is that

505
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:42.440
it most likely as an underground organization
not related to any government or intelligence agency

506
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:46.119
based on the references and their challenges. The a gripa poem by William Gibson,

507
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:49.880
The Marriage of Heaven and Hell by
William Blake, The Book with a

508
00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:53.840
Law by Alistair Crowley, Ever heard
of him, and their constant references to

509
00:39:53.880 --> 00:39:59.360
prime numbers in the light that they
are likely intellectual, anti establishment, ideologically

510
00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:04.360
driven, and they seem to be
valuing logical analytical thinking highly. Hey,

511
00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:07.039
hey, these guys sound like a
pretty good guy, you know. And

512
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:10.079
this reminds me. There's a couple
of of other, you know, similar

513
00:40:10.119 --> 00:40:15.159
things to this. There is The
Last Starfighter. It's the video game that's

514
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:20.159
the secret recruitment tool that you can
Yeah, I was, I have it.

515
00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:22.960
I'll bring it up now. I'll
have it written later. But it

516
00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:28.920
sniffs a lot of Ready Player one
to me, Oh well if it if

517
00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:34.800
its ready Player one, then you
will drown in the odor of Armada.

518
00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:38.679
This is the next book by Ernest
Client, which is a functional retelling of

519
00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:43.480
The Last Starfighter. Same thing.
The video game is actually the recruitment tool.

520
00:40:43.800 --> 00:40:45.679
Yeah. Um, and you know, um, if you've read any

521
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:52.679
of the Magicians series by lev Grossman, Um, the second book talks about

522
00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:58.079
you know it's it's it's sort of
like a Harry Potter but for broken people

523
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:01.119
with substance abuse problems. But why
were you talking about that? Yeah?

524
00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:05.960
I really enjoyed the books personally,
But there is a whole thing about all

525
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:09.639
the people who took the entrance exams
to magic school but didn't make it in

526
00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:14.599
that are kind of trying to learn
magic as best they can on the streets.

527
00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:16.639
And there was a very similar run
to this. I mean, I

528
00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:22.559
feel like those books. Yeah,
the first one was published in two thousand

529
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:27.079
and nine, but there's such a
similarity between these two because a group of

530
00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:34.519
highly intellectual people were using a set
of puzzles just like this prime number sequences

531
00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:39.400
things like that to to weed out, Yeah, to weed out people who

532
00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:45.039
weren't smart enough to learn magic in
the little secret underground community. But yeah,

533
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:47.639
very similar to the kind of puzzles
that are described here. Yeah,

534
00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:52.880
Ericson, Now we've we've tipped our
Fedora a bit here with the talking about

535
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:58.079
that. But Ericson said they seemed
to share a lot of ideology with the

536
00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:02.599
crypto anarchy movement and old school hackers. His advice for those currently working on

537
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:07.000
it was to make sure that you
have a good understanding of every part of

538
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:09.760
the previous Cicada thirty three oh one
puzzles. If there's a subject you are

539
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:14.519
not already acquainted with, take your
time and read and learn more about it.

540
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:17.239
Try to solve as much as possible
of the earlier puzzles by yourself,

541
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:22.000
rather than just reading through a ride
up. For parts you do read,

542
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:24.800
make sure you understand each step completely
and tried to think about how you would

543
00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:30.000
have arrived at the same conclusions by
yourself, which I mean, I see

544
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:32.920
how he's trying to, you know, give someone like that is the best

545
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:37.639
advice, But at the same time, I can't help but feel like I

546
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:40.119
mean, that's what these puzzles do
is they lead you in a direction,

547
00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:45.239
then they take a left turn,
and by design they want to see how

548
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:47.480
many people they can shake at that
turn right, you know, So if

549
00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:52.000
you don't, you know, if
you don't have the skill set to stay

550
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:54.880
on instead of getting shook. Yeah, and maybe maybe ultimately that's what it's

551
00:42:54.880 --> 00:43:00.559
about, is about trying to people
who are adaptive learners who can kind of

552
00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:04.400
pick that stuff up on the fly. Let's talk about another guy. There's

553
00:43:04.440 --> 00:43:07.039
another person who claimed to have made
it even farther than our Swedish friend who's

554
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:14.199
at how about a sixteen year old
going by the cool ass handle technology or

555
00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:20.440
a technologgy technology technology. He puts
a lot of shit in there. We'll

556
00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:24.320
call him technology because I don't want
to play his don't. I don't trust

557
00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:30.639
it because he's on my lawn.
He said that he was met with a

558
00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:35.239
message of congratulations and a kind of
forum board with a chat room with about

559
00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:38.920
twenty members and a notice board.
The noticeboard topics were apparently mostly concerned with

560
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:45.000
cryptography, encryption, further improving privacy
and anonymity, and creating new types of

561
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:50.679
open source software. Technology claimed that
the projects hinted an interest in infiltrating various

562
00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:55.320
public and private organizations, although no
real indication of cyber terrorism or virus creation.

563
00:43:57.159 --> 00:44:00.280
Though unnerving, he didn't think that
they were evil. May be just

564
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:02.920
a bunch of hackers messing around,
um you know, albeit maybe well funded,

565
00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:07.519
I guess, he said. The
members started not showing up in the

566
00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:10.159
forums, and he himself became board
and stopped visiting. Then the site just

567
00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:15.320
vanished. And you know when when
people finally were like okay, Junior genius.

568
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:17.760
So who do you think these guys
were? His response was, I

569
00:44:17.800 --> 00:44:21.760
don't know, and I don't know. That's the truth. I think that's

570
00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:25.639
the only thing I can truthfully say
that might be a puzzle in itself.

571
00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:30.719
Might be well, when when we
get on into this just a little bit,

572
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:34.119
uh, you might see a link. But I also think, I

573
00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:37.559
mean we were we touched on this
briefly. Like the number of other people

574
00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:45.400
posting information, I can also see
like a person who starts by trying to

575
00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:47.760
make a puzzle like that, people
start solving it and then it was like,

576
00:44:47.800 --> 00:44:51.519
oh, well maybe I'll you know, it's it's almost like a guy

577
00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:55.039
writing a piece of fiction or creepy
pasta or anything, posting it to a

578
00:44:55.079 --> 00:44:59.400
board and then oh, wow,
this got a lot of reads. I

579
00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:02.719
should write the next chapter. And
now these other people who maybe aren't necessarily

580
00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:07.599
the Cicada people are posting these series
of problems and then you end up at

581
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:10.159
what they consider the end. You
know, they get to this point like,

582
00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:12.920
oh, you made it, this
is you know, we're just talking

583
00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:15.199
about some here, and then they
they lose interest, just like a person

584
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:20.400
writing a fiction, you know,
post would do it seems yeah, it

585
00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:23.000
seems very disappointing, right right,
to just get there. Yeah, you

586
00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:28.679
do expect for that much hullaballoo for
it, for something cool to be at

587
00:45:28.679 --> 00:45:32.599
the end instead of just like,
Hi, it's a chat room. Yeah,

588
00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:36.280
how's it going. I'm not gonna
tell you who I am? But

589
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:38.960
how are you? Yeah? Did
you? Did you in the puzzle?

590
00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:45.960
Did you hack anything today? Or
that's what I would say. Do you

591
00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:52.519
guys have any sweet hacks this weekend? A Lost Girl New seasons on Netflix?

592
00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:58.800
Anybody? Yeah? I kind of
stopped watching Lost Growth or Cassina Solo

593
00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:01.840
left. I mean, she's kind
of like my future wife. So does

594
00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:07.639
she leave that show eventually? Boiler
you dick? You were gonna watch it

595
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:10.760
anytime? Ye? Sorright? Sorry, guys, best part of the show.

596
00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:16.360
No, mo, she's like my
future wife. Did they kill her?

597
00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:20.800
Please tell me they just killed her
in the show? Um, she

598
00:46:20.920 --> 00:46:24.519
just not one episode. She's just
not there anybody at home or like they

599
00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:29.159
do a really shy way of covering
and there's someone in a wig whose backs

600
00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:32.280
always do the camera like making eggs
in the background, So you think she's

601
00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:44.440
around. I'm not gonna tell you
to find out. Mother motherfuck. All

602
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:46.719
right. So all right, so
this guy doesn't know and he can't know,

603
00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:52.880
then let's talk theories. Yeah,
that's that's the bes P. Yeah,

604
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:58.239
what or who is thirty three oh
one? Now some have said,

605
00:46:58.519 --> 00:47:02.639
could it be a potential government agency? Sure, let's get some some NSA,

606
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:07.639
some CIA, some FBI, some
FEMAM six some m I six,

607
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:12.719
m I five. Yeah, they're
both existent. They both are for real

608
00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:19.880
KGB absolute other letters some some other
letters. Um the you know, I'll

609
00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:22.719
bet you Brazil's got something, you
know, whatever they've got. Maybe it

610
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:28.599
was all viral advertising for the Olympics. Wow, So you think it could

611
00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:34.280
yes be a government agency doing this? Ah, Honestly no, And I'll

612
00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:38.239
tell you why. Because of the
amount of time involved. Like you know,

613
00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:43.920
if you're recruiting, if you want
people to do a thing, then

614
00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:45.280
you want to hire them. You
want them to work on the thing you

615
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:52.440
want them to work on. And
in something like uh tech fields, cryptography,

616
00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:54.719
hacking, things like that, things
happened pretty quickly. You can't just

617
00:47:55.000 --> 00:47:59.960
have a guy on the hook for
three years, jumping through hoops and hope

618
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:02.400
them to stay hope for them to
stay current. So you have to have

619
00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:07.639
a real decisive you know, at
the worst six month window or something,

620
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:09.679
you know, for people to solve
the problems, and then you bring them

621
00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:14.920
in and train them. Yeah yep, good point. What about a shadowy

622
00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:22.360
agency, not government but maybe in
wo nice Freemason Yeah, well, um

623
00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:28.920
again, you know it's tough to
know. You'd have to index this with

624
00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:34.280
uh jay Z and Beyonce's tour schedule
to know if they were busy while this

625
00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:37.639
was happening. Right, Um,
I forget Katy Perry. Oh yeah,

626
00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:39.960
Katy Perry and it as long as
someone's got that triangle going again, I

627
00:48:39.960 --> 00:48:43.719
would say I honestly, I think
the same thing. I don't. I

628
00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:46.559
don't feel like gets a good recruiting
tool because of how long it's protracted,

629
00:48:47.480 --> 00:48:55.760
unless unless you want people who are
very intelligent but also low grade obsessed over

630
00:48:55.840 --> 00:49:00.039
time. I mean that you want
people with nothing else going on. I

631
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:05.119
guess people who don't move on.
Maybe maybe you do. But again,

632
00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:09.159
I just feel like, you know, think about the when you when you

633
00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:15.039
think of it, issues like um, cryptography, UM, potentially hacking,

634
00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:20.280
you know, code cracking, things
like that. Every single company you know,

635
00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:25.320
whether it be a Norton AVG McAfee, any of those virus companies constantly

636
00:49:25.400 --> 00:49:34.199
fighting ever evolving threats to to cybersecurity. There's just no benefit to keeping someone

637
00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:37.360
out in there, you know,
in working out of their home office,

638
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:42.599
trying to solve tiny little picture problems
for three years while all this is going

639
00:49:42.599 --> 00:49:45.159
on. If they're that smart,
get them in that, you know,

640
00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:47.079
bring them in, give them a
paycheck, in a computer, and get

641
00:49:47.119 --> 00:49:52.320
them to work. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Could it be underground hackers

642
00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:57.159
just having a loft them off you
what might you A? I think so,

643
00:49:57.400 --> 00:49:59.840
I think it could be. I
think it could be sort of.

644
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:04.239
I don't know if arrogance is the
right word. The work that hackers do

645
00:50:04.360 --> 00:50:08.440
is so quiet that they want recognition
most of the time for what they've done,

646
00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:13.320
you know, when they're when they
hack something for the purposes of hacking

647
00:50:13.320 --> 00:50:15.400
it, they kind of have to
sign their work, you know, not,

648
00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:19.800
which is very different from hackers who
are stealing credit card numbers and things

649
00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:22.360
like that. They don't never want
anyone to know who did that. That's

650
00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:24.840
that's not in their interests. But
people who are hacking for the sake of

651
00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:28.840
it kind of want to sign their
work a little bit. They want to

652
00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:35.000
know, and there was who are
the Lizard group that was doing the DDoS

653
00:50:35.039 --> 00:50:39.880
attacks on um Blizzard servers, on
PlayStation Network, on Xbox servers. You

654
00:50:39.880 --> 00:50:45.360
know, whenever a big game would
come out, they would try these gigantic

655
00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:49.679
denial of service attacks, and um, you know, all these different groups

656
00:50:49.719 --> 00:50:52.480
that that are doing it, they
sign their work, they let people know

657
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:57.239
because they want some recognition for their
for their ability. Um. But there's

658
00:50:57.280 --> 00:51:00.239
also a lot of hackers in the
article I've had in interviews they're like,

659
00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:05.320
well, if if you're too dumb
to not have protection against this this thing

660
00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:07.519
I wrote, then you deserve what
happens. I hear that a ton that's

661
00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:13.480
a justification and a little bit of
arrogance there and a little bit of well,

662
00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:15.800
I'm just smarter than all these sheep, so of course I'm going to

663
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:19.360
shear them. Yeah, um and
so yeah, I think that there is

664
00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:22.280
a well, who's smart enough to
do these to pass these tests that I'm

665
00:51:22.280 --> 00:51:27.239
setting up at the end of which
you know probably isn't anything, you know,

666
00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:29.760
but it's a test. It's a
chat room where you're like, hey,

667
00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:32.800
well so you pass, right,
good job, not gonna steal your

668
00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:37.320
Yeah, and so it's it boosts
the ego of the person writing the questions

669
00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:42.400
because dude, I've been doing this
for years and people just can't figure it

670
00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:45.840
out. Yeah. And it also
the people who are chewing through these problems

671
00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:51.000
are also like making incremental progress and
they feel like they're getting something out of

672
00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:54.079
it. So I like that idea, you like the underground hackers. Yep.

673
00:51:54.159 --> 00:51:59.519
Could it be a new techno cult. There is an idea that that

674
00:51:59.639 --> 00:52:06.039
a cult has either grown out of
this or this is sort of a cult.

675
00:52:06.440 --> 00:52:10.559
Techno cult, I guess is the
best description of it. I don't

676
00:52:10.599 --> 00:52:14.199
know. I mean, I don't. I don't think it is, because

677
00:52:14.239 --> 00:52:19.119
there's not an overarching ideology to it. Not that's that they put on the

678
00:52:19.119 --> 00:52:22.599
front page, right, And I
guess, I guess the closest it gets

679
00:52:22.679 --> 00:52:25.000
is, you know, like we
referred to earlier the unwritten rules or something

680
00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:30.239
like that, but there at no
point does it does it ask for any

681
00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:35.800
particular behavior. There's no call to
action, there's no request of of anything.

682
00:52:35.840 --> 00:52:37.440
Really, they just put them out
there. So I don't. I

683
00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:40.599
don't know if if a techno cult
really fits the bill, because that's it's

684
00:52:40.679 --> 00:52:45.159
not as though it said now go
forth and make your own puzzles for other

685
00:52:45.199 --> 00:52:49.760
people, or or it's directing people
like you know these puzzles, you know

686
00:52:50.559 --> 00:52:53.559
are directing. Okay, well you'll
solve this next part if you go do

687
00:52:53.639 --> 00:52:58.559
these things. Yeah, you know, there doesn't ever seem to be any

688
00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:01.039
action taken. It's just a series
of puzzles. It's just a book of

689
00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:08.079
bogglings. How about artificial intelligence maybe, like what if a program has been

690
00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:14.159
created and now it's self aware,
and maybe it is trying, it's biding

691
00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:20.360
its time to take over control of
the world's technology, but it needs it

692
00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:24.920
still needs some help via the smartest
people that can find. I mean,

693
00:53:25.119 --> 00:53:30.039
I'm kind of just like spinning mud
in my mouth right now, right again,

694
00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:32.480
it's it never asked them to do
anything. It just simply follows the

695
00:53:32.519 --> 00:53:37.320
next step, so that you know, of yeah, but all of this

696
00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:39.800
is kind of with that caveat of
well if some people may have gotten to

697
00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:45.480
a certain point where they dropped off
the radar because they couldn't say more,

698
00:53:45.639 --> 00:53:49.719
they didn't want to come out,
and that's true, but you could say

699
00:53:49.760 --> 00:53:52.280
that about literally anything, you know, like what about all the people that

700
00:53:52.320 --> 00:53:57.000
went to seven to eleven and that
didn't make it. You know, you

701
00:53:57.599 --> 00:54:00.639
could say that about anything. So
I feel like that, don't you know.

702
00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:04.880
I guess it's possible that there is
that that there are a number of

703
00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:08.760
people that made it. To some
end point, Ultron didn't have a problem.

704
00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:12.840
He didn't need other people to help
him. He's got no strings to

705
00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:16.000
hold him down. Yeah. Now
there's another theory that it could be an

706
00:54:16.039 --> 00:54:21.280
augmented reality game. UM. Now, this is something that that kind of

707
00:54:21.280 --> 00:54:24.960
came into the four a few years
ago that was related to the game Halo,

708
00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:30.039
and it started around two thousand and
four. And this I'm kind of

709
00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:34.239
looking this up because it reminds me
of this. Bungee, the company that

710
00:54:34.280 --> 00:54:37.480
made Halo, decided to kind of
start stirring the pot with like a little

711
00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:45.199
bit of like very strange marketing where
there was a website called ilovebees dot com.

712
00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:47.719
But if you, if you would
like start digging at it and picking

713
00:54:47.760 --> 00:54:51.320
at it and looking at the code, a lot of the same things that

714
00:54:51.360 --> 00:54:54.559
people are doing for Cicada, which
also in my mind, I'm like,

715
00:54:54.679 --> 00:55:00.119
oh Bees, Cicada, I don't
know. UM would give you information and

716
00:55:00.199 --> 00:55:05.400
it was actually information about a Halo
U and it was first, you know,

717
00:55:05.440 --> 00:55:07.360
like the thing that kicked it off. It was it was a hidden

718
00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:14.079
message in a trailer for Halo Too, and you could continue to dig through

719
00:55:14.639 --> 00:55:19.599
what looked like information hidden in very
bland places, and it was sort of

720
00:55:19.599 --> 00:55:22.519
a marketing tool sort of a game
that you could dig through and it would

721
00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:29.000
have it would reveal backstory about the
game, and it talked about you know,

722
00:55:29.039 --> 00:55:34.599
there was an artificial intelligence that got
stranded on Earth Cortana. Uh no,

723
00:55:34.599 --> 00:55:37.400
no, it was an alien one
I believe, but you know who

724
00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:44.400
flawed. Ye. But yeah,
so it was just a really clever way

725
00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:49.440
of getting people to become invested in
this, in this what was already a

726
00:55:49.480 --> 00:55:52.119
wildly popular game. But um,
anyway, it doesn't I don't have to

727
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:57.639
describe any more than that, but
like this feels very similar like that to

728
00:55:57.719 --> 00:56:01.960
me. But again it's been years, like yeah, to what end long?

729
00:56:02.119 --> 00:56:05.440
Yeah, so I don't know.
That's another theory that this is just

730
00:56:05.519 --> 00:56:09.440
a more elaborate augmented reality game.
Yeah, kind of like a hackerman nerd

731
00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:14.000
scavenger hunt. Yeah, in a
way. Well, there's one more I

732
00:56:14.039 --> 00:56:16.599
have on the list here, David, who who's behind it? Well,

733
00:56:19.880 --> 00:56:25.840
yeah, zucolo sound, is such
a thing even possible? Yes, it

734
00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:30.880
is. I don't think so.
Yeah, I go to tell you.

735
00:56:31.559 --> 00:56:37.800
I don't know if that's it.
Either seems weirdly mundane for aliens. It

736
00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:42.880
seems weirdly invested in in human civilization
to be aliens. Well, well,

737
00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:45.719
here's the my thing. My question
would be, if if you're an alien,

738
00:56:46.639 --> 00:56:50.800
you're an alien, you're If you're
an alien, you're in. If

739
00:56:50.800 --> 00:56:55.519
you're a pess alien um. If
you are an alien, and you have

740
00:56:55.800 --> 00:57:01.519
this level of understanding of not only
our technology, but our thought processes,

741
00:57:01.519 --> 00:57:08.800
our philosophy, philosophy, how we
parse information, history, all these things,

742
00:57:09.320 --> 00:57:13.440
what the do you need from us
at that point? What do you

743
00:57:13.480 --> 00:57:19.039
need one of us to do?
Yeah, to make it to the underwater

744
00:57:19.280 --> 00:57:22.920
layer so you can suck our brains, right, I don't know. How

745
00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:27.400
did you know about the layer?
I made it further, I made it

746
00:57:27.400 --> 00:57:35.639
past the email stage. Do we
we? Oh? No, my last

747
00:57:35.679 --> 00:57:39.159
man. Obviously, this leads to
the question, what is their goal?

748
00:57:39.480 --> 00:57:43.760
We we've just been touching on it. Why recruit people? What I said

749
00:57:43.800 --> 00:57:46.199
before the Ready Player one thing,
there was a series of clues that was

750
00:57:46.280 --> 00:57:51.960
left by the designer of God,
I can't. I can't get into that

751
00:57:52.039 --> 00:57:55.960
without like going through the whole yeah
story, just long story short. A

752
00:57:55.960 --> 00:58:01.119
guy leaves a bunch of easter eggs
in a mass like an in virtual reality

753
00:58:01.159 --> 00:58:05.719
for everyone to find. Winner gets
virtual reality, they own it. They

754
00:58:05.719 --> 00:58:10.480
own the whole thing. It's like
owning Microsoft and Google and yeah, Amazon

755
00:58:10.719 --> 00:58:15.239
and yeah. Imagine a company owned
the Internet. Yeah, and the owner

756
00:58:15.239 --> 00:58:17.599
of that company wanted to hand it
off to somebody. That's the premise of

757
00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:22.000
the book anyway. Now it also
has a mister Robot feel to it.

758
00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:24.199
I brought this up last time,
I think yeah, and I wasn't interested

759
00:58:24.239 --> 00:58:30.039
then either, Floris stopped pushing your
agenda on me. Bro, Moving on,

760
00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:32.119
all your hacker friends, moving on, all your new hacker friends who

761
00:58:32.159 --> 00:58:40.480
think that I'm all students pronounced Hackerman. Mister robots show on. I think

762
00:58:40.599 --> 00:58:49.039
USA, maybe Robot. There's a
guy who's very skilled at hackerman and real

763
00:58:49.119 --> 00:58:52.440
hackers. If they're listening to this, just like WinCE every time I say

764
00:58:52.519 --> 00:58:55.800
Hackerman, dude, but whatever,
I WinCE at the idea of quote unquote

765
00:58:55.840 --> 00:59:00.960
real hackers. Anyways, he gets
together with a group of other skilled hackers

766
00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:05.599
to take down one of the biggest
businesses, one of the biggest corporations.

767
00:59:05.960 --> 00:59:13.239
Allah, anonymous style Williams Sonoma.
They takedown Williams Sonoma. No one bigger

768
00:59:13.239 --> 00:59:19.760
than Shakespeare. Bro No pots for
anyone, no whiskers. But what about

769
00:59:19.760 --> 00:59:24.679
what about like thirty dollars? Uh, Spatula's gone nobody, blink of an

770
00:59:24.679 --> 00:59:30.079
eye, nobody, no copper pots. Um, So, mister Robot,

771
00:59:30.159 --> 00:59:34.760
it's it's a show. That's that's
a topical thing. But uh, you

772
00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:37.039
know, ti ties to this in
that and that's I don't know what I'm

773
00:59:37.039 --> 00:59:40.360
talking about that. Do they want
anarchy that that actually is tied into,

774
00:59:40.559 --> 00:59:45.119
mister Robot a bit when the markets
fail and economies kind of come to a

775
00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:51.280
standstill, anarchy companies and sat a
little bit of fight club there? Sure?

776
00:59:51.559 --> 00:59:54.400
Um? Could they want to erase
debt for those under the massive golden

777
00:59:54.519 --> 00:59:59.639
thumb of corporate greed? Do they
want to take down the two big to

778
00:59:59.760 --> 01:00:04.840
fai bull that is gobbling up lives
and shing out money into the pockets of

779
01:00:04.840 --> 01:00:08.199
a few psychopaths? Is that from
the show? No, it's from me

780
01:00:09.519 --> 01:00:16.639
because fuck you rich people, because
I'll have to remind you that it's it's

781
01:00:16.719 --> 01:00:22.480
it's text clues hidden in pictures of
insects, like you've gotten real far down

782
01:00:22.519 --> 01:00:28.679
them down the rocky road. At
this point, everybody's gonna have a gold

783
01:00:28.719 --> 01:00:32.000
brother. Everybody's oh man, can
we have theory? The theory, the

784
01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:37.440
explanations part of every podcast. Bring
it back down to corporate greed. That's

785
01:00:37.719 --> 01:00:40.199
that's what Big Squawk is trying to
protect us from. Or do they just

786
01:00:40.239 --> 01:00:44.400
want to be the rulers of the
world themselves by controlling all data and technology.

787
01:00:44.599 --> 01:00:46.840
They're just solving puzzles. They got
so much work to do. What

788
01:00:47.039 --> 01:00:51.440
they want you to think that's true. I don't know, man, nobody

789
01:00:51.480 --> 01:00:52.960
knows what they want. You've got
a better question for you, all right,

790
01:00:53.119 --> 01:00:57.800
Will the puzzles continue? So far? Looks like yes, yeah,

791
01:00:57.840 --> 01:01:01.079
there was one this year. Yeah. So it would be interesting if if

792
01:01:01.119 --> 01:01:07.880
what technology the sixteen now now I
think eighteen or nineteen years old, they

793
01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:12.119
did a big article on him and
Rolling Stone even did they really? Yeah,

794
01:01:12.119 --> 01:01:14.920
if what he says is true,
it would be interesting to find out

795
01:01:14.960 --> 01:01:16.719
if the group disbanded and then there
was a couple that's like, no,

796
01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:20.840
man, we gotta we gotta pick
the flag up and keep going. You

797
01:01:20.840 --> 01:01:22.960
know. Yeah, that's why there's
no twenty fifteen puzzle, and but then

798
01:01:23.199 --> 01:01:28.239
twenty sixteen start to back up,
and I don't know. It's quite the

799
01:01:28.440 --> 01:01:31.039
enigma, isn't it? Isn't it? Just as we said, there's already

800
01:01:31.400 --> 01:01:36.280
numerous pop culture references and inspirations from
it. The show Elementary, which I've

801
01:01:36.320 --> 01:01:38.159
never watched and probably never will,
is that the one with Lucy Low Yes,

802
01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:42.840
okay, House of Leaves. Never
heard of it. It's a book,

803
01:01:42.840 --> 01:01:46.039
I believe, person of interest.
Another show apparently has episodes that are

804
01:01:46.239 --> 01:01:52.840
directly correlated with Ripped from the headlines. Even the Navy has modeled some cryptographic

805
01:01:52.920 --> 01:01:55.119
training on it, apparently. Getting
back to this idea of a cult,

806
01:01:55.360 --> 01:02:01.679
a techno cult, I'm gonna link
to a site called Cicadianism, which is

807
01:02:01.800 --> 01:02:07.639
an occult order built on the philosophy
gleaned from thirty three oh one now.

808
01:02:07.679 --> 01:02:13.679
According to their website, a Cicadian
is someone who has chosen to give up

809
01:02:13.719 --> 01:02:17.840
the superficial and unfulfilling world around them
to follow the path of the Cicada and

810
01:02:17.960 --> 01:02:25.719
emerge into enlightenment. According to them, Cicadianism is a technomistical order, our

811
01:02:25.760 --> 01:02:30.000
philosophy is neither a religion nor a
science, but a blend of spirituality,

812
01:02:30.079 --> 01:02:36.639
technology, science, and mysticism.
We refer to it as a technomsticism,

813
01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:42.000
which they just did. We did
not author this philosophy. It was handed

814
01:02:42.039 --> 01:02:45.519
to us by thirty three oh one. We do, however, provide some

815
01:02:45.639 --> 01:02:50.480
interpretation of the Liber Primus and other
writings by thirty three oh one. Also,

816
01:02:50.559 --> 01:02:52.239
we have the shoe that he left
behind as he was running away.

817
01:02:52.519 --> 01:02:57.079
Right, yeah, listen, We're
not the ones who made this up.

818
01:02:57.239 --> 01:03:00.239
But we'll tell you what it means. And that's totally different that our hands

819
01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:04.559
are clean here. But I will
tell you what they mean by that.

820
01:03:05.320 --> 01:03:07.639
I just need you to write me
a check. I don't know that they

821
01:03:07.639 --> 01:03:10.159
ask for money. To be honest, I don't know. I haven't either,

822
01:03:10.320 --> 01:03:14.239
haven't tried to be a Circadian.
Statistically, I feel like it was

823
01:03:14.280 --> 01:03:17.440
a safe bet to assume, Dave
give us a quake. Are you doing

824
01:03:17.599 --> 01:03:22.480
for a what a cicada is?
Oh? Just the insect? Sure.

825
01:03:22.599 --> 01:03:29.639
Cicadas are one of the hemmametabolish insects
in the order Himipterra, and they things

826
01:03:29.639 --> 01:03:32.159
that they're known, especially here in
the old, good old United States.

827
01:03:34.079 --> 01:03:38.800
They when they are immature, they
live underground for as many seventeen years in

828
01:03:38.840 --> 01:03:44.239
some cases. Here in Illinois,
we get huge hordes of them that come

829
01:03:44.280 --> 01:03:47.760
out of the ground. Sometimes there
are these giant populations that live underground and

830
01:03:47.800 --> 01:03:53.360
come out occasionally, and on a
crazy year you'll just find their exuvia their

831
01:03:53.400 --> 01:03:58.760
old exoskeletons everywhere. Yeah, they
also make a ton of noise. Yeah,

832
01:03:58.760 --> 01:04:04.519
everyone has heard the kadi is They
make that that but just so loud.

833
01:04:06.239 --> 01:04:11.079
But they're Yeah, they're just insects. They come out of the ground

834
01:04:11.079 --> 01:04:17.880
to breed, make more a huge
feed supply for subtranee animals, moles.

835
01:04:18.440 --> 01:04:20.960
Is this year we're due for them, aren't we. Well, we get

836
01:04:20.960 --> 01:04:24.559
them every year. There's always a
question of how much I haven't heard,

837
01:04:24.559 --> 01:04:28.880
Like two years ago, everyone was
losing their minds about it. But um,

838
01:04:28.960 --> 01:04:30.800
and I forget what they call it. I think they do, might

839
01:04:30.800 --> 01:04:34.199
even call it like a swarm or
something like that. And I've seen maps

840
01:04:34.239 --> 01:04:39.400
where like whole sections in the United
States have like a name for their their

841
01:04:39.519 --> 01:04:42.800
swarm that lives underground, and some
of them come up. I mean,

842
01:04:43.119 --> 01:04:46.840
it's still a chemical clock. So
even you know, sometimes they don't stay

843
01:04:46.840 --> 01:04:51.079
the exact seventeen years underground. They'll
come up at fifteen or eighteen, you

844
01:04:51.079 --> 01:04:56.000
know whatever. So it's always sort
of approximate. But there are some years

845
01:04:56.000 --> 01:04:59.760
that are definitely worse than others.
Yeah, so yeah, if there was

846
01:04:59.760 --> 01:05:03.639
a year that for take for example, if something were to happen with the

847
01:05:03.679 --> 01:05:08.960
weather or something where there were not
a lot of predators, then a ton

848
01:05:09.039 --> 01:05:12.960
of those grubs would get to emerge
and climb up. They climb up to

849
01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:16.880
a high surface. They kick off
their old exuvia. Now they they're they're

850
01:05:16.880 --> 01:05:21.400
fully sexually mature. They can go
mate. If if there's any number of

851
01:05:21.440 --> 01:05:26.639
things that decreases the number of predators
that year, then more of them mate,

852
01:05:26.679 --> 01:05:28.920
more of them make it back into
the ground, and then you know,

853
01:05:29.719 --> 01:05:32.000
X number of years later they're all
going to come back. Or if

854
01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:35.360
there's a summer where there's a huge
number of birds, you know that seventeen

855
01:05:35.400 --> 01:05:38.679
years later, there's not going to
be a lot, you know. And

856
01:05:38.679 --> 01:05:43.559
they're a huge feeder species for everything
because they're not small insects. They're like

857
01:05:43.639 --> 01:05:46.320
thumb size they are. Yeah,
you'll see their little skeletons on the trees

858
01:05:46.639 --> 01:05:53.880
exactly hanging there. It makes me
wonder if that was chosen because the group

859
01:05:53.920 --> 01:05:59.559
will one day emerge maybe you know
and recavocun Yeah, that makes some noise.

860
01:05:59.679 --> 01:06:02.559
That is what they're most known for, is the emergence. But back

861
01:06:02.559 --> 01:06:05.719
to this cult, there was,
according to the site, a test given

862
01:06:05.719 --> 01:06:10.400
to those who reach the final stages
of the thirty three oh one test.

863
01:06:10.840 --> 01:06:13.599
Yeah, I'm looking at it.
Look through there and see see if there's

864
01:06:13.639 --> 01:06:15.480
a couple of questions you want to
give us an example of. Some of

865
01:06:15.480 --> 01:06:18.039
them are multiple choice, some of
them are you you got to type in

866
01:06:18.079 --> 01:06:21.800
the answer, but yeah, some
of the questions. Here's one question one,

867
01:06:23.159 --> 01:06:29.199
there is no truth. Answers include
true, false, indeterminate, meaningless,

868
01:06:29.519 --> 01:06:33.039
self referential, game rule, strange
loop, or none of the above.

869
01:06:33.559 --> 01:06:36.800
Question two, what you are is
more important than what you do?

870
01:06:38.320 --> 01:06:42.360
True, false, indeterminate, meaningless, self retential, game rule, strange

871
01:06:42.360 --> 01:06:45.519
loop, or none of the above. Three. The mathematical operation known as

872
01:06:45.559 --> 01:06:50.360
addition is modeled after what and then
you just write right, yeah, and

873
01:06:50.440 --> 01:06:55.159
there's how many how many total questions? It goes on like that. It

874
01:06:55.199 --> 01:06:58.280
looks like twenty How long is a
piece of streaming? Oh? Yeah?

875
01:06:58.320 --> 01:07:01.760
And these are kind of like little
question like question twenty is what does the

876
01:07:01.800 --> 01:07:08.039
word it refer to in the following
sentence, It is dark outside. Pretty

877
01:07:08.079 --> 01:07:12.559
pretty fun. You never thought,
Yeah, you're like, what what would

878
01:07:12.559 --> 01:07:16.400
you say? I would say this
guy guy, Yeah, this guy is

879
01:07:16.480 --> 01:07:20.239
dark at this sky is dark.
That's pretty pretty straight answer. I'd agree

880
01:07:20.239 --> 01:07:25.760
with that. Oh, here's a
fun question. I am the voice inside

881
01:07:25.800 --> 01:07:29.039
my head. And then the you
know, true false and determined meaningless of

882
01:07:29.119 --> 01:07:30.880
French regial game rule strange lived under
the above, and you know, this

883
01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:35.760
is the Cicada thirty three oh one
dot org test. Now here's the thing.

884
01:07:35.880 --> 01:07:41.119
This is, uh, this is
by the Cicadian isn't. Yeah,

885
01:07:41.239 --> 01:07:46.199
Cicadianists, not necessarily. Yeah,
this isn't the people who created question.

886
01:07:46.280 --> 01:07:50.519
This is the the technomistics. This
is their website that they came up with.

887
01:07:50.639 --> 01:07:55.719
Later. Also, the group was
signing everything thirty three oh one.

888
01:07:55.760 --> 01:08:00.360
They weren't calling themselves Cicada. Yeah, that was just the images was first

889
01:08:00.360 --> 01:08:03.920
picture. Yeah, so you know, well, according to doctor Tim Daley,

890
01:08:04.159 --> 01:08:09.639
whose PhD is in religion and who
also spends a lot of time fighting

891
01:08:09.639 --> 01:08:15.199
against those that threaten the institutions of
marriage and the family, oh, so

892
01:08:15.280 --> 01:08:18.359
he's one of them, one of
them. Take this with a grain of

893
01:08:18.399 --> 01:08:24.039
salt. Take this with a bigoted
and diversity fearing grain of salt. He

894
01:08:24.119 --> 01:08:29.279
broke down thirty three oh one and
the questions into what may be considered a

895
01:08:29.960 --> 01:08:33.920
cult by saying there's no inherent meaning
in anything, and all is quote unquote

896
01:08:33.960 --> 01:08:39.800
empty and meaningless. The existence of
an emergent godlike global brain made up of

897
01:08:39.800 --> 01:08:45.319
all living things in technology as described
by cyber netsis Francis Hayleon. I don't

898
01:08:45.319 --> 01:08:47.760
know if I'm pronouncing that right,
but there's no need for salvation because there's

899
01:08:47.800 --> 01:08:51.720
nothing from which we must be saved. This is pretty nihilist. Actually,

900
01:08:53.079 --> 01:08:57.039
yeah, it is kind of Many
of their writings and belief focus on ego

901
01:08:57.199 --> 01:09:00.920
death. They're used to the term
intelligence rather than person throughout the The liber

902
01:09:00.960 --> 01:09:06.119
Primus seems to indicate belief or at
least concern for sentient artificial intelligence. I'm

903
01:09:06.159 --> 01:09:11.079
not sure that clicks to me.
Yeah, and and and a couple of

904
01:09:11.079 --> 01:09:15.279
other couple of other points where he
thinks it's kind of a cult mentality.

905
01:09:15.720 --> 01:09:20.439
Now you know somebody who who has
studied I don't want to say religions because

906
01:09:20.479 --> 01:09:24.880
I think he's pretty heavily into one
religion, right, Yeah, he's made

907
01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:29.800
his choice, but that's his view
on the inner workings from from what we

908
01:09:29.880 --> 01:09:32.840
have been exposed to from thirty three
to one. So in the end,

909
01:09:32.880 --> 01:09:38.680
I mean, I get it with
this because I think puzzles like these are

910
01:09:38.680 --> 01:09:44.000
fun, although I'm so far from
being smart enough to try something this hard.

911
01:09:44.199 --> 01:09:47.800
It's laughable and to me it's a
little depressing. Well yeah, I

912
01:09:48.079 --> 01:09:53.399
think you there's there's a certain kind
of person that really gravitates towards this sort

913
01:09:53.399 --> 01:09:57.159
of thing, you know, and
they're they're the person that watches the first

914
01:09:57.239 --> 01:10:00.800
thirty seconds of a of a mister
and it's like, yeah, yes,

915
01:10:00.880 --> 01:10:02.079
he did it, you know that, Like they just know that stuff,

916
01:10:02.119 --> 01:10:08.279
like they can those those kind of
problems. Fat solvers. I'm not one

917
01:10:08.319 --> 01:10:11.840
of them. Well yeah, I
mean being able to just be like oh

918
01:10:11.920 --> 01:10:15.239
yeah, I'm just gonna open this
word pad, I'm gonna take this code,

919
01:10:15.520 --> 01:10:17.840
I'm gonna plug it in on this
other software and like go go to

920
01:10:17.840 --> 01:10:24.359
town. Like nothing that would ever
not not me. B Yeah. So

921
01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:29.359
yeah, so it is very intimidating
to think about, you know, people

922
01:10:29.399 --> 01:10:32.399
out there that that just ripped through
this stuff no problem, And now they're

923
01:10:32.399 --> 01:10:36.159
out there fightings are and the code
an armada. Well, let's hope,

924
01:10:36.439 --> 01:10:42.560
I guess, although they could use
like a scoundrel and a gambler. Yeah

925
01:10:42.960 --> 01:10:49.520
that's right, some somebody who's gonna
crack wise and kiss wives. Oh you

926
01:10:49.560 --> 01:10:57.479
know that old chest No me that
friends and lovers is Cicada thirty three oh

927
01:10:57.520 --> 01:11:05.439
one? How many of these people
are your lovers? In a in an

928
01:11:05.600 --> 01:11:12.840
encoded image that you have to use
out guests to open up and see what

929
01:11:13.079 --> 01:11:15.600
actually is the nutshell? Yeah?
Well you know what? You know?

930
01:11:15.640 --> 01:11:18.359
What else? Is really hard to
decipher and determine what is? What is?

931
01:11:18.680 --> 01:11:23.800
I don't even know what could be
deciph I'm too dumb to even guess.

932
01:11:23.840 --> 01:11:26.119
Well, I'll give you a clue. Oh great, it's puns.

933
01:11:30.720 --> 01:11:34.800
Oh and am I supposed to take
puns and word pad or now? What?

934
01:11:34.960 --> 01:11:38.760
Now? What do I do?
Must to just kill a joke?

935
01:11:38.880 --> 01:11:43.880
I mean what? Yeah? I'll
accept your pun challenge? All right?

936
01:11:43.880 --> 01:11:45.680
What you got You want me to
go first day? If you'd like to?

937
01:11:46.239 --> 01:11:48.800
No, you went first last time. I'll go first, okay,

938
01:11:49.119 --> 01:11:57.720
As everybody knows. Amongst some other
countries, Italy, Canada it was Bakistan.

939
01:11:58.279 --> 01:12:02.920
Australia, the Philippine major sources of
hackers, some of the best hackers

940
01:12:02.920 --> 01:12:10.119
in the world. And there is
a an Australian program that people use.

941
01:12:10.239 --> 01:12:13.640
And if you want to, if
you can take like a larger image file

942
01:12:14.399 --> 01:12:19.720
and using this program, you can
not only hide images but also retrieve them.

943
01:12:20.319 --> 01:12:25.239
Um. So if you need to
send, for example, a coupon

944
01:12:25.399 --> 01:12:30.039
for a bloom and onion. Um. Yeah, you can use out out

945
01:12:30.079 --> 01:12:38.600
back guests. Oh, if if
you need to tell your friends that it's

946
01:12:38.600 --> 01:12:45.920
okay. If if if there's no
rules and it's just right, put another

947
01:12:45.960 --> 01:12:50.520
script on the bottom, put an
open script on the Bobby. Oh,

948
01:12:50.520 --> 01:12:53.960
that's good. That's good, it's
pretty good. Well, Dave, I

949
01:12:54.319 --> 01:12:56.880
don't know I'll tell you this.
I don't think I've told you before,

950
01:12:56.880 --> 01:13:00.359
but I'm thinking about getting eye surgery. Really. Yeah. They they have

951
01:13:00.399 --> 01:13:03.399
this new type of surgery that corrects
your eyes so that you can see answers

952
01:13:03.439 --> 01:13:10.520
to puzzles more clearly. It's laser
ETA thirty three. Oh one. Nice.

953
01:13:10.880 --> 01:13:13.960
You know there was a book.
You know, it's really difficult because

954
01:13:14.960 --> 01:13:19.119
people can't translate it very well.
And honestly, like especially to adults,

955
01:13:19.600 --> 01:13:23.720
people my age. You just look
at it and it's just it's just gibberish

956
01:13:23.960 --> 01:13:29.159
hum and people. You know,
people have claimed various states of progress in

957
01:13:29.199 --> 01:13:32.920
decoding this book, but really it's
um. It was created by a club

958
01:13:33.239 --> 01:13:38.359
and it's it's a fan club for
a Canadian pop star. But it's just

959
01:13:38.560 --> 01:13:42.439
such inane, stupid bullshit that no
one ever even wants to read the book.

960
01:13:42.439 --> 01:13:49.880
It's called the Bieber Primus. What
what a what a book to be

961
01:13:49.920 --> 01:13:56.680
burned? If ever a book was
to be burned, I've got something right

962
01:13:56.720 --> 01:13:59.319
in that ballpark though. Wait,
I was going to ask you this too.

963
01:13:59.319 --> 01:14:03.319
Have you heard the new song about
puzzles that's perfect? No, perfect

964
01:14:03.359 --> 01:14:09.560
puzzles. It might be the best
cryptographic song ever, because that's what makes

965
01:14:09.600 --> 01:14:13.880
riddles beautiful. It's by the hacker
band known as thirty three oh one Direction.

966
01:14:15.079 --> 01:14:20.600
Nice. Them's puns ms puns.
And now it's time for you to

967
01:14:20.680 --> 01:14:27.119
confound us with your maniacal writings.
Can we follow the breadcrumbs? Who's to

968
01:14:27.159 --> 01:14:31.279
say? What cryptic images do we
have to put into out guests and pull

969
01:14:31.359 --> 01:14:46.000
up in word pad using our Caesar
cipher four. Listen, Laura, do

970
01:14:46.079 --> 01:14:50.039
you hear that. What is it? Off in the distance, The thrumb

971
01:14:50.039 --> 01:14:55.960
of engines, the screaming of people
that are mutated and angry about it.

972
01:14:56.199 --> 01:14:59.720
Oh no, it doesn't sound like
they've gotten enough water. You don't think

973
01:14:59.720 --> 01:15:01.319
it. You don't think it can
be. Oh my god, Flora,

974
01:15:01.760 --> 01:15:11.079
you're standing right in the middle of
it. The plenty ro rom rom rom.

975
01:15:11.119 --> 01:15:13.720
All right, I pick I started
off our punt, so you start

976
01:15:13.760 --> 01:15:16.039
this on? All right? From
James the skeptical Oki. Do you have

977
01:15:16.039 --> 01:15:18.800
an itch to be rich but don't
want to switch? Don't twitch and get

978
01:15:18.800 --> 01:15:21.960
stuck in a ditch? Bitch neat
a itch, unhook a hitch, find

979
01:15:21.960 --> 01:15:26.680
your own niche actually play quidditch,
make that radar gun glitch or finally throw

980
01:15:26.720 --> 01:15:29.600
a pitch and run, but don't
get a stitch and come down to Brunhild's

981
01:15:29.680 --> 01:15:31.560
rich bitch witch and kitch shop.
Stop in for a spell and see if

982
01:15:31.560 --> 01:15:39.199
we can help. Wow. Yeah, man, how about this from drop

983
01:15:39.279 --> 01:15:44.039
Bear. Yeah, there's a there's
a new sport at the Paranormal Winter Olympics,

984
01:15:44.439 --> 01:15:49.119
the slalom witch time Trials. How
about this? And also also,

985
01:15:49.119 --> 01:15:53.479
if the earth is round and I'm
from dan Unda, why don't I fall

986
01:15:53.520 --> 01:15:59.640
off, checkmate, Mike, drop
thanks drop Bear from General Rodicus, Oh,

987
01:15:59.680 --> 01:16:02.039
general who came to our show.
Yep, and we very much appreciated

988
01:16:02.119 --> 01:16:05.279
that. Sorry we didn't give you
a shout out. I still like him,

989
01:16:05.399 --> 01:16:10.319
says do you think Quentin Tarantino is
a failed devil? It explains his

990
01:16:10.359 --> 01:16:15.920
obsession with Kitch's feet. Personally,
I'm surprised the other Caribbean slaves around Salem

991
01:16:15.960 --> 01:16:20.760
avoided accusation, like Fitchuba, the
Taylor's assistant, Richeba who worked for a

992
01:16:20.800 --> 01:16:27.479
colonial representative, or Nicheba, who
was known for having life. Quitchuba was

993
01:16:27.720 --> 01:16:32.920
lucky enough to escape freedom in the
late sixteen eighties. Thank you ironic.

994
01:16:34.239 --> 01:16:41.840
How about from KB KBYBB Wait no, wait, KB goes by Pandora Yeah

995
01:16:41.920 --> 01:16:45.600
yeah, yeah yeah either or however
you likes it right? I recently saw

996
01:16:45.640 --> 01:16:48.680
an article that stated DARPA finally solved
the problem with their propulsion systems on the

997
01:16:48.760 --> 01:16:51.800
insect like robots. Oh yeah.
They sent a variety of them into the

998
01:16:51.800 --> 01:16:56.239
wild to test which ones would survive
and give them the best results. One

999
01:16:56.359 --> 01:17:00.279
lucky or unlucky town named Devil's Bay
became ground zero for this extensive test.

1000
01:17:00.680 --> 01:17:03.520
After a vast number of deaths.
The doctor in the town searched for the

1001
01:17:03.560 --> 01:17:09.840
source of the pustual ridden pus leaking
corpses. They finally deducted that the responsible

1002
01:17:09.920 --> 01:17:19.279
robot was the Devil's Baby's Baby's baby. Thanks Pandora box from four Tree,

1003
01:17:19.600 --> 01:17:25.359
what did the controlling cockney customer Till's
girlfriend who was trying to get into the

1004
01:17:25.399 --> 01:17:29.720
shamefully small outfit that he had designed? Every time the dessert tree went around

1005
01:17:29.720 --> 01:17:36.039
the table? What the love pass
nice? Say? Thank you four Tree?

1006
01:17:36.479 --> 01:17:42.720
I got another one from Pandora oh
ye double return. Also from the

1007
01:17:43.000 --> 01:17:45.079
dark episode, she writes, there
was only one question that stayed with me

1008
01:17:45.159 --> 01:17:49.520
long after I finished listening. Just
how did Darper carry all three bildos?

1009
01:17:50.119 --> 01:18:02.479
I suppose they used baggins? Yeah, bag bagin one more here from dw

1010
01:18:02.720 --> 01:18:08.079
Oh boil Oh. I heard recently, if a chicken tastes the inside of

1011
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an egg, it becomes obsessed with
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it becomes a chicken togo like that, like you, d w when you're

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in trouble, you called DW Yeah, that's put everyone Hi a right Hi

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pun Hi right again? H oh
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to catching up. It's it's been
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where we haven't done listener mail,
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I'm so past apologizing now that it's
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and a half years, that's how
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we love reading them. We were
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everybody. We got a lot of
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yes all you guys, and I'm
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we've got something new. Just tell
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have a beer can cooozies, Yeah, or just can coozies coozies. But

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got a nice picture of the old
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squatch man, so h be looking
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be on. There's something new for
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We are getting us dangerous, like
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You're already starting to work on it. Bro. It's it's inevitable oil

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and inevitable oil inervitable. Um,
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Where it's gonna be you know,
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in the style that you used to
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guys rewards rewards out to you as
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through. Then we then we know
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legit and like I gave you some
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of them? Actually what uh so? Uh so, Yeah, keep on

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do, if we keep doing well
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this to your town. Yeah,
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We're like, there's something we could
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completely unreliable because you know somebody's like, well, I'll live in Boise,

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Idaho. I don't know that we'll
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we don't know we won't. We
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I think that's gonna do it.
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Photos. Don't forget Miss Crypted coming
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an episode of Chrono Knots that might
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knots, ro no knots. Yeah, so yeah, pretty fun right yeah

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yeah, you gotta keep talking so
uh for this episode of blurry Photos.

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I have been SKay, David Flora. That's awesome, And I have been

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Dave? Was that a niner stecco? Now, if we if we can

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just take this picture and blow it
up, free blow them an onion?

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Yeah? Is that all we got? And wait a minute, put that

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thing in four channels. Let's let's
extract some of the numbers of the word

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pad here like then I'm gonna here. Sis. Joke has been played out

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for way too long. You are
in the path to enlightenment, except what

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is that last word? Bye?
No no no la Unfurling his wondrous wingspan,

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our hero uses his powerful purple propellants
to make haste to the city center.

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But will he be in time?
Who scratchman, you arrived just in

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time. I was afraid I wouldn't
make it. Have you captured the Boggler?

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Oh indeed he hasn't. Now buggle
me this Scratchman twenty three A thirty

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three drew in it. No,
I'm not done. I'm just setting up

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boggle me this forty five dragon books. But it's it's it's rather elaborate.

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And just give me a moment and
then you you may boggle me this wolf

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Zack. Excellent work, Scratchman.
You've once again saved the city, or

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at least me, Mayor Crowley,
although I suppose I also owe a debt

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to Commissioner Willamette. Ah, that's
what everyone says it. I'm just saying

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it like it's spelled now. If
you'll excuse me, Scratchman, I'm already

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late for an important wetlands planning summit
with wealthy ecological activist Blaine Smithson. A

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good day, Oh me too,
Squatchman. No, no, no,

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no, another craven crackpot crushed by
the crafty cranium of the crime fighting cryptod.

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Squatchman. Squatchman, Squatchman, squatch
Man. Yeah