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And it hits me, Oh my
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know, there's explanation for everything that
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aliens at all. It was completely
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It's so classic Gli Sorcier. Really
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over to my father and held his
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and said, we're not alone.
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Willis your host, and we have
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hour and he's going to be talking
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kind of a strange thing we've never
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Aerial School phenomenon, and that'll be
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to be taking calls, and that
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the news with Alejandro Rojas from Open
Minds. How are you, Alejandro?

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Good? Am I important to you
too? Somewhat? Yes, Estion,

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Oh, I just I wanted to
hear it. You are hugs. I

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knew it, but I wanted to
hear it. Can we have a digital

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hug here? Yeah? Here we
go. There you go, buddy.

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Yeah, that was a good one. So we got to squeeze through the

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news kind of fast this week.
So what's going on? Let's do it.

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So one of the stories we wrote
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but it's taken moof on that long
to analyze it. No. Actually,

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the move On Scientific Board puts out
an annual report on the top cases and

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they're backed up, so they just
got the twenty thirteen top cases out and

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one of the top cases includes a
video, and everybody loves videos, so

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I posted what was essentially their idea
of the best UFO video from twenty thirteen.

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It shows a bright light and a
smaller light dropping out of it that's

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blinking. The light kind of moves
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of sight quickly. And this was
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twenty thirteen. It was about nine
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interesting. It was taken by a
couple who had bought at it while they're

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driving, so they stopped, rushed
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to catch this orb coming out of
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thing prior to this. But what's
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were two other groups of people that
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they reported pretty much exactly the same
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with this other light coming it down
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second set of people were some people
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saw it. And then the third
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home mom who went outside to have
a smoke and saw this and she called

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her kids to come out and watch
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Finally it was investigated. He couldn't
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guard or anything who could determine what
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What's more interesting is that at move
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posts signings on Openminds dot tv,
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this was on March fourth at about
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just the other day, and a
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there in a smaller object coming out
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similar report came from this two thousand
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Yes, and I know all these
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your website, but I do want
to say that if someone goes to podcastufo

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dot com right on the homepage or
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that video that you were talking about
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of them, or more than one
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that's makes it even more unexplainable.
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a drone type of situation. I
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of coming back up and dropping down
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drone dropping out of the well.
Yeah, yeah, So it's really weird.

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Definitely a weird case. And these
days video isn't enough. You need

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that good witness testimony, and especially
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and so what else is going on?

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A couple other videos. There's a
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Argentina TV station with a UFO in
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that's created a lot of buzz.
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a hoax. So they hoax that, uh, well, you just replaced

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the video in the background, they
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and the TV station got a hold
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the real video from our newscast,
and he provided them with the video of

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that segment of the newscast. And
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it's really good too. Yeah,
it looks really good. It was a

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really interesting one, but that turned
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that is a suspected hoax, but
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is out of California in the Silicon
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taken on March fifth, so it's
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a drone. So this drone is
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camera on it and it caught something
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two hundred and sixty five feet and
it's a really kind of interesting video.

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It's a kind of a shocking video. It is now has anyone explored don't

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yell at me when I say this, but has anyone thought about an insect?

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I saw? I did watch the
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thought an insect, you know,
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I won't yell at you. I'll
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I'm used to that. No,
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people. There's a guy in one
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be CGI because he thinks that he
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others feel that it could be well, a lot of people feel it's

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a genuine UFO. Some people think
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head and Mark d' antonio, the
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bug. And I think that it
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people look at it, it looks
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looks kind of stunning, so they
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bug. But I think as bug
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illuminated, could look like this,
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Even though it was a four K
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frame by frame on that. I
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YouTube and it's not easy. No, even though it's four K high resolution,

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is seeing so small moving so fast
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wrote it, put a still so
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it's difficult to make anything out right. So well, I know you did

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a great job blazing through the news
this week, and so we just want

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to make sure we get a pretty
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so much. I really appreciate it. Sure, and we can chat more

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Yeah, all right, so thanks
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hang in there, we'll be right
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music break. Well, that tune
was by Bruce Rainier. And how you

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doing, Tom Reid? Very good, and I appreciate you having me on

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It's It was a pleasure and it
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Phoenix. Unfortunately you didn't get to
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you are. Yeah, that was
a that was a tough couple of days.

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My plane was grounded for two days. I got in, did my

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power PowerPoint of two hours sleep and
I had to get some rest and by

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the time I was up and moving
around, you were gone. So well,

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I'll tell you no one had any
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I'll tell you that you did a
great presentation. Oh did you watch

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it? Yeah? I watched most
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it was a pretty big crowd.
Yeah, it was packed. Yeah,

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amazing amazing. So, and I
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happened while you and I were communicating
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you were your story was inducted into
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how do you feel about that?
That's pretty amazing. Yeah, they actually

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had been talking about it for quite
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I'll tell you how it led up
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classification in September of nineteen sixty nine
in Great Barrington. It was actually reported

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by several at I say several,
It was like nine people I think that

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gave testimony from South Egremont, some
from the jugg And Resort. They were

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an awful lot in Sheffield that saw
the craft and our local bistro village on

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the Green, which by the way
is still there today. It became like

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restaurant, you know, big restaurant
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in the town, constables, you
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gas stations would come in. Everybody
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never something that was like whispered.
I mean it was very well known back

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then, and then it went out
on USBs radio, whose letter has been

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hanging in Roswell for quite some time, and that's still under the same call

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letters as as well. And South
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Club, so our house is still
there. And at one point the town

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had a time capsule. They buried
all the people's names in town. So

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they took, you know, everybody's
that lived, their age and everything,

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and they put together this time capsule
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WSBS radio was still there under the
same call letters. Who announced our case

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or announced the craft, I should
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Book. That doesn't mean it is
Project blue Book, but it was given

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a Heien classification during those last three
months. And then our restaurant is still

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and the polygraph tests and the people
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something that they were contemplating for quite
some time, and last I knew it

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really wasn't supposed to happen until Labor
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would be the anniversary of it.
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Simon's Rock Early College, and I
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Someone from Daniel Art Center was actually
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behind it, and so there was
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late till September or inducted, and
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I couldn't be happier, I mean
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a lot of reasons. And and
one of those reasons, and a lot

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of people don't know this either,
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of two thousand and five, and
my father actually came out to Florida to

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be by my side and took some
time off. He was a principal at

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the time. He had gotten out
of politics and stepped down as an attorney,

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and we had always talked about doing
this book and writing about the things

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that he had gotten back from Robert
Bletchman and friends and that sort of thing

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that were filtered to him after this
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He had a lot of documents back
then papers who knows what he had,

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I mean, but he had an
awful lot. He had a lot

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from sign and you know Blue Book
and all the other ones, and letters

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from the Greece Ministry, defense the
Pentagon, you know a lot of stuff

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I couldn't tell you. But I
have a lot of it. But

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I don't know what I'm reading,
to be honest with you. So anyway,

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so when he came down to Florida
to see he brought some of the

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stuff with him and had entertained the
thought of, well, listen, when

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you get back on your feet,
we really need to do this book.

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Because I think at one point when
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Tom, you know, we'll put
this book together. And now that

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I almost died, maybe he thought, well, this would be either conversation

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or that he really meant it,
or what have you. So after I

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got back on my feet, I
really pushed him to write this book with

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me. You know, hey,
you came down, let's do it.

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I'm going to be laid up for
a while. I'm running around on crutches,

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you know, I've got plenty of
time. What do you say I

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started, you edited that kind of
thing. And so it was October and

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he went to school. His head
hit the desk. He was rushed to

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Yelltenhaven Hospital and he had a nasty
fungus going through his blood. The mayor

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of Bridgeport called in the CDC.
They came in from Atlanta. They shut

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down his building immediately, and my
father died that day. Oh, my

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god, died on the same day
that our case got mentioned. Wasn't a

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front runner? Just got some slight
mention at the United Nations through our retained

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lawyer. We retained Robert Wetchman legally
and he mentioned our case at the UN

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and support of thirty three four to
twenty six. Fourteen years later, after

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talking the book, my father dies
on that same day. Wow. And

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so that to me is why and
why my mother, brother and we all

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have decided to step out and talk
about this more because until then, you

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know, we feel that just we
just got to would have gotten lost in

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the shuffle. But now that we
have a real heartfelt purpose for it,

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and with this induction into the historical
society, as far as I'm concerned,

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you know, this pays tribute to
my late father. I mean, this

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is for him, and and so
for that, I'm honored and I'm very

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grateful because I think that we were
able to show that this powerful individual who

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has a proclamation in his honor a
bench in the City Green, that was

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a respected attorney when he would talk
about the UFO topic. You hope some

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people would take that that having the
case now inducted, I think really speaks

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loudly and adds credibility to what he
was trying to do and what he was

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saying. Wow, I do want
to talk about that about your father and

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about the rest of your family in
this case, your brother and all.

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But we have a message board and
there is a there is a question posted

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up there. Sure, and at
the UFO congress. This was someone that

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was there who I actually met.
He's a listener of the show. You

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mentioned that nine of your family members
are H negative in your own words.

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For those not familiar with RH negative
and the UFO abductions, what is the

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significance of this, Well, I
can tell you that's like almost a twofold

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question. In my opinion, I
believe that man was originally RH negative.

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I say that because anybody, our
age positive has a link to the monkey.

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There's a connection to to you know, to entasis monkey, whereas RH

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negative there is no link to anything
else. There is no beginning and you

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can't link at anything. And it's
a cleaner cell, the cleaner, cleaner.

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ARCH negative is much cleaner than urge
positive because it lacks certain coppers and

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sugars and that sort of thing.
Now, Secondly, Time Life did a

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test on those who are urge negative
and found that the common denominator was when

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testing for remote viewing the RH negative, those with urge negative blood groups tend

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to test higher than those bread rage
positive. Now, there's more to it.

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OH negative blood types, which is
urge negative own negative, was the

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only blood type that was really tracked
by the US government back in the sixties

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because it was the universal donor during
the years of nom Anybody can receive OH

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negative blood anybody, but someone with
RH negative or own negative blood can only

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receive OH negative blood because it's it's
in some respects I'm not sure if that

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the word pure is really the word
for it. But there is apps nothing

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on it, on the cell itself
that your body will reject. Now,

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if you're RH negative and you are
having an RH positive child, an RH

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negative mother will actually her body will
go in to a state where it'll attempt

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to abort that baby because it sees
it as a foreign object. Right,

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So when you look at that,
it's almost I don't want to go too

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four. I don't a limb here, but it's almost like we're a different

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type of human being. When your
body wants to reject another human that should

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be human. But the other thing
too. You know, RH negative.

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My body temperature doesn't run at ninety
eight point seven. My body temperature runs

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at ninety seven point one and ninety
eight point seven. I've got a point

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and a half temperature, so I
run at a different temperature. Own negative

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have tested to be more intuitive or
with regard to testing, my blood pressure

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runs lower, blood temperature runs lower. You have a child, if it's

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large positive, it's looked at as
a foreign substance. So maybe there's more

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here. But I believe that that
OH negative or ARGE negative blood groups were

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the original blood of man. I
believe that I could be wrong, but

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that's what I believe. Have you
ever looked into any of the scientific facts

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about that. No, I haven't
spent a lot of time with it.

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I'm pretty occupied with other things,
but I'm starting to look into it more

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and more. We have another question
up there, and that is your brother

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Matt had physical trace marks on his
chest. Did you have any physical trace

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marks on yourself. I just had
this scoop mark thing my right arm that

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so many people have alluded to the
fact that that's a typical scoop markets.

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It's pretty big. It's larger than
a pencil eraser, a pencil racer.

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It's it's quite deep, and I've
had it since I was about six or

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seven years old, and it's almost
perfectly round and never tans. I've never

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seen a scar. I just remember
having it since I was a child.

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Yeah, it seems like the scoop
mark. I remember you talking about that.

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Let's see, did Matt shave his
chest for the photo or did the

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aliens? And that is a goofy
question, says he. Now, when

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he had went in for I haven't
looked at by doctor Mozello, they shaved

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it and it looked like his little
wounds looked like sugar cones, like little

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you know, they were flanged out
on top and kind of they were actually

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fairly big when you really think of
it for what they were. They weren't

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just like a needle puncture. I
mean, I think there were three centimeters

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if I'm not mistaken. I've got
the doctor's report here somewhere. But they

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were fairly large, and they looked
like miniature sugar cones with a little bit

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of a flange on the outside,
and it was very strange. There was

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talk from the doctor that if you
were trying to reach the thymous gland,

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that would have been the spot where
you would have inserted a needle. And

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then it was well, why would
you want to go to the thymois gland,

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Well, there is a sack off
to the side of it, which

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is where your body produces the T
cells for your immune system. Now,

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most people will or doctors will attest
and make you ware that by the time

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you're an adult, most of those
cells are dried up, those tea cells.

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But if you wanted to extract something
about that that, you know,

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something that would build your immune system, you could still get whatever you wanted

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from that. Whether at the T
cells will still be in manufacturer or not,

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it's still there. So there was
a that became a topic for a

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while. But you know, who
knows. But it wasn't a peculiar spot

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in the in the direct location would
have been that sack that produces the t

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cells. You know, I think
I'm being a little bit rude to the

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listener that may not know about your
case. So if you would, kind

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of in a nutshell, can we
talk about your early childhood, how this

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whole thing started, and where it
progressed and progressing. Yeah. Sure.

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We had an eighty acre horse farm
in Sheffield, Massachusetts, which was pretty

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rural. It was out in the
Tri state area, an edged kind of

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nestled if you will, between New
York, Connecticut and the little corner of

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Massachusetts, not far from where Norman
Rockwell's brush us touched the canvas the birch.

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Yeah, you know music in Tanglewood, you know that kind of thing.

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And we, like I said,
we had a large spread of land

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and our house was pretty much on
the top part of it. Now,

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a lot of people don't realize this, and I mentioned it at the Congress

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that Sheffield is one of the highest
locations for a seventeen hundred mile stretch of

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road. It's almost three thousand feet
high. Beckets three thousand feet high,

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and our house basically sat, if
you look at the pictures, pretty much

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up on top of that. And
so it's been speculated that because we had

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the highest or one of the highest
elevations that you know, there could have

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you know, there could have been
some testing and that sort of thing up

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there. When we look at you
know, Pratt and Whitney was only fifty

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five miles away. Command Aerospace was
forty miles away. This is by road.

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Ge was only nineteen miles away.
You had the grotten naval base making

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nuclear submarines that weren't far away,
and so you had a lot of military

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around the mountain. That's not even
talking about Albany and everything Cheches, Massachusetts

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and Connecticut. And so here we
are with the highest elevation with a house

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on top of it, and on
top of that hill if you went down

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there were the valleys, and so
you know, maybe that is part of

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maybe that took or plight of role
in what happened with us. It's really

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hard to say, but we had
seen a craft in nineteen sixty six and

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it was on our property, the
back side of the property, not too

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far from the house, maybe four
hundred yards from the house, and maybe

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a little more than that just passed
a tree line. In sixty seven,

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we saw it a second time,
and that was when my mother got involved

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with alien mysteries, did a pretty
good job. And that one my mother

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comes running out and grabbed us out
of the oide of the road, and

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we were pail and we weren't really
speaking to each other. We were really

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kind of out of it. And
I remember I remember staring at my brother,

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and I remember my mother coming out
and grabbing him. But as far

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as my my my demeanor, I
guess if you were looking in from the

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outside, I looked to be just
placid and out of it and very unresponsive.

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Yet I remember things pretty clearly,
just as my brother did. He

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wasn't really responding, but we,
for some reason, seemed to be in

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this state where we were. Our
bodies seemed to be manipulated or or just

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like a dead you know, look
to ourselves and not really moving yet our

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insides, our brain and our eyes
and thoughts were moving, you know,

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we were thinking we were able to
respond if in a way, but our

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bodies wouldn't. You know. It
was almost like we were combined to a

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shell or a mannequin, but we
were alive in it. It was really

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weird. And so my mother grabbed
my son. My younger brother, Matthew

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grabbed me, and so she grabbed
her sons, brought her ran ascender house,

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sat us up the dining room table
and gave us aspurn and orange juice,

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and we slept in the living room
next to a fireplace. We stepp

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slept on the sofas. Our mother
stayed with us that night. And what

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we remember from that night was,
you know, we remember, you know,

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seeing this craft that really looked more
like a tarnished or dirty turtle shell,

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and it was laying on the ground. I didn't see any gear,

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didn't see any windows. We you
know, we looked, but it was

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huge. It was about fifteen eighteen
feet high and it was probably forty or

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sixty feet around, and it had
a lip around it, almost like a

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tire lip, not made a rubber, but I mean it had a lip

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around it that we reference as you
know, almost like if you ever had

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a ten speed bike, you know, you had those thin rubber lips for

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the tires, almost something like that, A big lip like that that wrapped

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around the of it in the back
and like circled it, and it wasn't

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at the bottom part. The bottom
part kind of taped it back in,

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but there was this big round lipt
that went around it, and it almost

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looked like it had sections too,
or lines in it. I'm not going

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to say it was panels, but
there was some lines through it. And

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it wasn't silver. It was more
like a bronze with a almost a maybe

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like a cad like a pewter,
maybe kind of a weather a little bit

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of a silvery or yeah, like
a like a burned pewter, like a

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like a bronze pewter that blended into
it wasn't an even color. And I

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asked myself, was it the light? You know, was it the sunlight?

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Was it making reflecting differently? But
it did not. It did not

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resonnate the same color. It seemed
to have different tints in it. I

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guess if it took a blow towards
to it, you know, sometimes you

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got that orange bronze looked and then
here it's a little lighters. That's the

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way it looked. It looked very
weather to me, and it was big,

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and we remember the inside of it. I remember an inside that was

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probably about the size of a master
bedroom, a hall like a square squared

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off area. I was esquoted out
this room I was taking going right out

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the front. I took a right
down his hallway that wrapped around like a

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question mark. I had passed my
brother, who was standing there very placid

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again yet he remembers seeing me clearly, but to me, he looked like

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he was almost asleep standing up,
and I was taking around him, and

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he had a figure next to him
too. Every time we had somebody next

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to us or that was with us
during this time, they were always on

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our left side, and it was
almost like we got es quoted and there

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were zones. So I was taken
up this winding area that wrapped to the

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right and came back around. And
when I got to the front of it,

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this individual that was with me left, and this new person or at

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entpea, what have you, was
now responsible for me. That's the way

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it appeared. And then I was
taken into this darker room. Well,

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I saw what was very dark and
a screen that had come up that went

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wrapped from three o'clock to nine o'clock, and this was just a beautiful shot

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of a lake and a willow tree
and it was moving and it was beautiful

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and champing, and it was just
totally took my mind off my brother,

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and it just I'll never forget it. I mean, the willow tree was

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moving and wind was coming. Oops. Hello, yeah, I thought you

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were recording. I wasn't gonna say
anything. That's okay, I am recording

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and Tammy there, Yeah, what
happened. Uh, we're back. We're

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actually we're actually gonna go live.
So just hold that thought and I'm recording

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all this, so the podcast is
going to hear all this what we're going

410
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,279
through. So Keith, anytime you
want to fire us into the live,

411
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we're ready to go. Should I
keep talking? Yeah? Sure? Is

412
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:21,680
that okay, Keith? Yeah,
hold on here. Power's back. Yeah,

413
00:33:22,759 --> 00:33:25,920
So if you want to just hold
that thought for a minute, we'll

414
00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:29,839
just once we know power is on, I'm just going to say something to

415
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:37,480
the live listening real quickly, Okay, Okay, you can go live anytime.

416
00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:42,400
All right, let's go now.
All right, So if you're listening

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00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,799
live, we're just right back or
where the power was out at the Dark

418
00:33:46,839 --> 00:33:52,039
Matter Radio Network. So the power
is back on and we were right in

419
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the middle of a conversation, Tom, do you remember where you left off?

420
00:33:57,079 --> 00:34:00,240
Yeah, I think so. I'm
going to back up a little bit,

421
00:34:00,279 --> 00:34:04,400
just in the case because went down
for a few minutes. Anyway,

422
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,920
I was talking about inside what this
craft was that was near a property that

423
00:34:07,679 --> 00:34:12,920
was in nineteen sixty seven, and
it's one of the it's the second to

424
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,480
the second of three that were seen
in our property that made so much local

425
00:34:17,519 --> 00:34:22,880
noise. And and like I said, I remember this hallway that wrapped almost

426
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,960
like a question mark, and I
and I and it really did it kind

427
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,960
of where the I guess the circle
would be at the bottom of the question

428
00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:35,360
mark was really a square room or
a squared off room, and not perfectly

429
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:40,159
square, but softly rounded square area. And I was taken out that into

430
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:44,239
the what be the bottom of the
question mark And when I wrapped to the

431
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:49,239
right and wrapped around in it to
me and when I you know, it

432
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,199
really did resemble a question mark.
And I passed my brother and got to

433
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:58,639
the front of this area and I
was released for lack of a better word,

434
00:34:58,679 --> 00:35:01,119
and at that point ended off to
someone else which I believe was not

435
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:07,079
responsible for me, and shown this
room that was much darker and had a

436
00:35:07,079 --> 00:35:09,639
couple of tables in it. There
was a screen, like I said,

437
00:35:09,639 --> 00:35:15,840
it lit up with a big image
of a tree, a willow tree off

438
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,039
to the left, and a big
bay of water. And to give you

439
00:35:19,079 --> 00:35:22,440
an idea, maybe had a black
and white television back then, this is

440
00:35:22,519 --> 00:35:30,480
nineteen sixty seven. This visual would
be like taking maybe twenty sixty inch plasma

441
00:35:30,519 --> 00:35:35,360
TVs, stacking them all on top
of each other and having it be one

442
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:42,679
screen that vivid, that big,
that crisp. It was just absolutely amazing.

443
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,000
And I was just staring at this
thing. I didn't know if I

444
00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:50,159
was looking out some strange window.
If I was looking I had no idea

445
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,880
what to make of it. But
it was night out and this thing was

446
00:35:54,039 --> 00:35:58,920
just like I was looking over a
beautiful lake it with this moving willow tree

447
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,760
in sunlight, and my brother was
with me, and I kind of took

448
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:07,679
my mind off that obviously, And
and then and there wasn't much more than

449
00:36:07,679 --> 00:36:12,400
that. There were a couple of
individuals working on some lower tables that were

450
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,519
bronze or brown, they were not
sober or chrome, and and some Martins

451
00:36:15,559 --> 00:36:21,639
on top, and the FA members
correctly, and and then to the left

452
00:36:21,639 --> 00:36:25,239
to me looked like it had let's
say, almost like a second tear or

453
00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:32,440
some type of the second story area
there is like glass of some sort off

454
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,960
to the left, almost like brick
glass, you know, those square glass

455
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:45,119
pieces. And and then I was
I was brought back to the driveway where

456
00:36:45,199 --> 00:36:49,320
my mother came running out of the
house and scooped us up and brought us

457
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,360
into the house and cared for us, the blankets and everything else. And

458
00:36:53,440 --> 00:37:05,239
no was there missing time according to
what youth? And another thing, how

459
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,639
old were you when this happened?
Seven? So what did you make of

460
00:37:09,679 --> 00:37:14,079
it? I mean, how could
you possibly wrap your brain about what?

461
00:37:14,119 --> 00:37:17,519
You just wrap your brain around what
you just experire you? Okay, yeah,

462
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:22,119
just yeah, I get a hold
of a sore throat. So yeah,

463
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,960
don't don't die of me, because
we don't want anything dying on this

464
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,800
show. We don't want anyone dying
on a live show. Yeah, So

465
00:37:31,559 --> 00:37:37,440
I can't edit that out. So
you're seven years old, you have this

466
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:42,760
beyond amazing thing happened. So your
mother scooped you up in the driveway.

467
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,280
Did she call the police or what
happened at that point? Well, when

468
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:52,760
we were gone, she had actually
saddled up her horses and ran all over

469
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,679
the property for turned on the bloodlights, and my grandmother came out into the

470
00:37:54,679 --> 00:38:00,079
screen porch. We didn't have neighbors, so this was a dirt road out

471
00:38:00,119 --> 00:38:05,079
of the middle of nowhere. And
like I said, we had eighty acres,

472
00:38:05,119 --> 00:38:07,239
just to give you an idea,
and our closest neighbor, you know,

473
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:14,199
it was probably half a quarter of
a mile. So, uh,

474
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,360
she found us. I mean,
she was on her horse and she was

475
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,760
up towards the top of the property. We had hay bailer. We weren't

476
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,760
allowed to go past the hay bailer
things. So you know, she had

477
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,760
seen the flashes of light. You
know, she had known something was going

478
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,840
on, and she wasn't kind of
a novice to it. She thing something

479
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,119
was happening, and so she just
went up high on the hill and decided

480
00:38:31,159 --> 00:38:35,719
to look down what would make sense. And then she saw us all of

481
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,840
a sudden, staring at my brother
and I staring at each other. He

482
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,280
was lower than me and a lower
part of the driveway, and I was

483
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,559
on a little bit of a hill
up near the stable, and my grandmother

484
00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:49,760
was on the screen porch. And
then all the sudden she yells, and

485
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,960
my mother hears her and then runs
down on the horse and jumps off and

486
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,519
scoops up my little brother and scoops
something me rushes us in the house,

487
00:38:58,039 --> 00:39:00,960
you know, like I said,
put fend of and fit us at the

488
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:06,079
table, gives us a baby asspri
and juice, and we sleep in the

489
00:39:06,119 --> 00:39:07,719
living room. Now that you call
anybody, no, not that night,

490
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,760
I don't think she did. She
might have called a friend or two,

491
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:15,880
but not nothing to report. But
when we went back to school and she

492
00:39:15,039 --> 00:39:19,760
opened up the restaurant, and more
times than not, I actually rode with

493
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,880
my mother to the village on the
green restaurant and I would open it with

494
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:28,960
her and we would, you know, have breakfast, and all the other

495
00:39:29,039 --> 00:39:32,519
kids in town, and you know
that were you know that our restaurant was

496
00:39:32,559 --> 00:39:37,159
walking distance from the school. So
if your parents were driving to work,

497
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,079
they dropped the kids off at the
restaurant. My mother would make him breakfast.

498
00:39:40,599 --> 00:39:43,679
You know. At the end of
the week, they'd square the bill

499
00:39:43,679 --> 00:39:46,360
away and all the kids would run
across the street to the school. So

500
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,760
and when I say go across the
street to the school, I mean it

501
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,679
was like walking basically just across a
four lane road and you were at the

502
00:39:54,679 --> 00:39:59,840
school, so at a crossing guard. So after school everyone hung out there.

503
00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:02,159
Well, it became the hub and
a lot of people were talking.

504
00:40:02,199 --> 00:40:06,440
But at this point not the whole
town had seen anything, so it was

505
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,800
more like a private conversation with those
who came in. You know, hey't

506
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,199
Nancy, what's going on, you
know, because they could tell something was

507
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:19,639
wrong. And so that went on
for quite a while. I mean,

508
00:40:19,639 --> 00:40:22,480
it's faithful for almost the year.
It became something that was like whispered,

509
00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:27,280
you know, on the lips of
my mother, and not at the school,

510
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:32,519
but and the restaurant. And it
wasn' until nineteen sixty nine, which

511
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:40,280
really changed everything. That was the
account that went out on WSBS radio whose

512
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:50,239
letters in Roswell and September of nineteen
sixty nine, and I was witnessed by

513
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,159
those from Jugum Resort and a lot
of people in the area, and they

514
00:40:53,199 --> 00:41:00,199
saw the craft performing acrobatical movements unknown
to conventional aircraft, hovering about five hundred

515
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:05,079
feet over our farm. Now it
didn't used to be the Red farm.

516
00:41:05,079 --> 00:41:07,840
It used to be in the Burrows
farm. And my mother got married afterwards,

517
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:13,280
so it was the Burrow's farm,
but it was our farm and because

518
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,320
of the high neet classification in WSBS
radio being there and our restaurant still being

519
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:22,880
there in a historical society, getting
a lot of calls about this because it's

520
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:29,000
still talked about today as how it
got inducted into the historical society. But

521
00:41:29,039 --> 00:41:30,679
as far as what we saw that
night, I was leaving butter in a

522
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:37,360
Basin ski resort. I was riding
at a four h show and my saddle

523
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,519
had come loose, and so we
left early, and so I didn't do

524
00:41:40,559 --> 00:41:45,599
so well. I got a brown
ribbon and they took me to the Meadows

525
00:41:45,639 --> 00:41:50,719
restaurant to eat. And then after
that we had decided to and my mother

526
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,440
decided to go down to Village on
the Green to make the night deposit rop

527
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,039
because a crooke had been locking up
because it was Labor Day weekend. My

528
00:41:58,119 --> 00:42:00,159
grandmother, who no money normally would
have on it, was with us while

529
00:42:00,159 --> 00:42:04,280
I was in competition, so she
wanted to make the night deposit drop,

530
00:42:04,599 --> 00:42:07,920
made sure the chairs were all up, places locked up, went to the

531
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:12,639
bank, made the deposit and now
we're heading back towards Great Barrington and a

532
00:42:12,679 --> 00:42:15,599
short cut to get to the home
would have been over to the Sheffield Bridge,

533
00:42:16,039 --> 00:42:19,719
and so that's what she did.
My mother took a short cut over

534
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,679
the Sheffield Bridge, which is basically
very swampy, you know, wheel tree

535
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:29,559
type of scenario, you know,
very marshy and a lot of open land.

536
00:42:29,639 --> 00:42:34,840
And my grandmother turned around as I
was sitting in the back seat and

537
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:39,239
I was going to give my brother
a fireball, and she had turned basically

538
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,400
to tell me that he could choke
on it. He was too young.

539
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,840
But that was only not he was
I'm nine and he was like seven,

540
00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:47,960
and she just didn't think it was
a good idea. And sure enough,

541
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:52,480
she sees the lights out the back
side of the car on the left side,

542
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:58,239
kind of off where I was sitting
in the back seat. And then

543
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:04,119
my mother says that the car had
come off the right side of the road

544
00:43:04,119 --> 00:43:08,280
in a stall. She really doesn't
know if she panicked and flooded it or

545
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:12,079
I don't know. All she knows
that it came off to the right.

546
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:17,679
Here the stones tapping underneath the gas
tank and the thunder walls, and it

547
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:22,519
was like driving over you know,
egg shells. It was that kind of

548
00:43:22,519 --> 00:43:28,679
a calm, that kind of a
dead and it just went completely silent.

549
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:35,119
It was like it's almost like was
surreal. And then we had this tingling

550
00:43:35,159 --> 00:43:40,079
feeling, and which later on we've
associated with ELF. But it was just

551
00:43:40,119 --> 00:43:44,920
a very strange feeling. Your body
picked up on it. It was not

552
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,000
something that you were accustomed to.
And then banged. It was a eruption

553
00:43:49,079 --> 00:43:53,039
of crickets and kadiods and everything just
changed. It was like being in the

554
00:43:53,039 --> 00:43:57,599
middle of a hurricane. Came you
could feel a barometric change in pressure and

555
00:43:58,159 --> 00:44:01,679
boom, We're no longer in a
car and we were separated. And wherever

556
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:07,760
this was, I was in what
looked like a like almost like an airplane

557
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,119
hanger the other way I can describe
it. It was that kind of big

558
00:44:10,159 --> 00:44:15,119
and open, and there were carts
next to me. There were two silver

559
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:20,239
carts. I don't know if they
had wheels or not, but there were

560
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:25,639
two craub looking carts that were maybe
four feet high, and aside from that,

561
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:30,920
I believe it was empty. And
then there was a light that I

562
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:35,519
began to stay ahead of me,
and I don't know if the door open,

563
00:44:35,639 --> 00:44:37,920
left it open right or however it
did, but a light came in

564
00:44:37,639 --> 00:44:44,719
and there was a person or what
resemble a boil person standing there, and

565
00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:47,760
for the first time, I was
actually very scared. I was very nervous.

566
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:53,519
This wasn't something there where I was
engulfed or engaged and having my mind

567
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:59,679
manipulated through ELF or stimulating neurons in
my head or whatever was happening. I

568
00:44:59,679 --> 00:45:07,039
didn't have this calm about me.
And I walked, believe it or not,

569
00:45:07,079 --> 00:45:09,599
I don't know why, but I
walked towards this person and I was

570
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:15,400
grabbed really hard on my left arm, I mean hard like it hurt.

571
00:45:15,679 --> 00:45:20,639
And taking out this hallway off to
the right, and I went down another

572
00:45:20,639 --> 00:45:24,239
hallway which keeyed off to the left. These were not windy hauls, not

573
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:30,239
this part of it. These were
very left and right. And I would

574
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:36,800
say maybe this first hallway that I
went down maybe oh maybe twenty feet,

575
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,039
and then I took a left and
maybe another twenty feet and I was taken

576
00:45:40,079 --> 00:45:43,920
into a room to the right.
Now, this room that I was taken

577
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,880
into was very odd by, very
weird, shaped, very strangely. It

578
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:52,400
had an inner the center of a
boat in like it would if you had

579
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:57,559
a coffee can, and there was
a pocket the left between where this boat

580
00:45:57,599 --> 00:46:00,280
out area would come back to the
wall, and then on the wall there

581
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:05,400
was a pocket there, maybe like
an eight or ten foot stand in between

582
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,960
where that rounded area connected in the
wall connected to the back wall, and

583
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:13,840
it was the same on the other
side. There was something an apparatus in

584
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:20,719
the ceiling, and there was a
table towards pretty much underneath it, and

585
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:28,239
aside from it, wasn't much in
there. But I remember I sat there

586
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,719
for a bit, very aware of
what was happening, very sharp at this

587
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:37,599
point, very nervous, very scared, and there was what looked like a

588
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:45,719
large ant that's where we describe it, and it had turned moved got my

589
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,800
attention. I was very frightened by
that, and I took off off to

590
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,079
the right side of this boat in
canden area, on the opposite side of

591
00:46:53,079 --> 00:46:58,320
where they were, I had run
into a hallway. Now this hallway was

592
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:05,199
absolutely massive. When I say big, it was the center that I came

593
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,639
in was like a big circle,
which is why the room that I ran

594
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:19,119
out of had an inward boat and
so I would assume any any room off

595
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:24,199
that rounded area would have a boat
an area in it. Now there were

596
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:30,599
was like set up like a y
off to the right. There was right

597
00:47:30,639 --> 00:47:35,039
to my right shoulder. At this
point out in this hallway, you're looking

598
00:47:35,039 --> 00:47:39,639
at a tube or a walkway of
some maybe distance of four cars car like

599
00:47:39,639 --> 00:47:44,840
a four lane highway. And then
just opposite that on the top, the

600
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,000
other part of the top of the
why if you will, was set up

601
00:47:47,039 --> 00:47:53,599
very much the same. Now,
the bottom wise part was probably twice that

602
00:47:54,519 --> 00:48:00,119
So to me it looked like traffic
coming in from the top of these wys

603
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:06,079
would filter down to the larger tube, and the rounded out area was meant

604
00:48:06,159 --> 00:48:12,760
to accommodate traffic. That's what I
get from that. So whatever wherever this

605
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,360
was going, who knows if it
was a good spot or a bad spot,

606
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:21,719
but that's the way it looked to
me. And I was there for

607
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,559
several seconds, and then I was
taken I was brought back in. I

608
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:30,039
sat on this table and this apparatus
came over me that looked like the top

609
00:48:30,079 --> 00:48:34,199
of maybe a tanning bed or an
mr machine. Had holes in the side

610
00:48:34,199 --> 00:48:36,360
of it. It was made by
two different parts. It looked like the

611
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:42,480
two parts separated, and I laid
down. It covered me to some degree.

612
00:48:42,559 --> 00:48:44,639
I could still see under it.
It was not tight on me.

613
00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:50,519
And there were oval holes on it, oval holes all the way through this

614
00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:55,159
apparatus, and it stopped just before
my chin. And there were what looked

615
00:48:55,239 --> 00:49:00,679
like raisin packets, large raisin packets
with a heath of ees it and these

616
00:49:00,679 --> 00:49:07,320
were actually placed on my body,
on my leg, my stomach, and

617
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,960
on my face. Did that help? Were you fully clothed at the time

618
00:49:12,119 --> 00:49:17,599
or not? Now it's pretty embarrassing. But now no, you don't have

619
00:49:17,639 --> 00:49:21,400
to. You don't have to.
That's okay. Uh, yeah, Well

620
00:49:21,559 --> 00:49:25,639
I do have some questions here for
you. So it sounds to me this

621
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:31,239
experience you had a total recall,
Like a lot of times you hear about,

622
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:37,039
you know, regression in you know, hypnotherapy to get to get the

623
00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:40,480
story. Uh, did you have
total recall of this whole situation all along?

624
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,400
Well, yeah, I wouldn't say
I have total recall. I'm longed

625
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:50,679
to bet I remember about twenty percent
of it. M I mean I don't

626
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:57,920
remember a lot, you know,
I remember segments, you know, fragmented

627
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:06,440
moments now that I that I had. Well, this is why what I

628
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,280
and I say to myself. First
of all, there are four of us

629
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:13,039
on that on that craft, that's
what we were. We all have talked

630
00:50:13,039 --> 00:50:15,639
about this our whole lives. We
all go back and forth. We were

631
00:50:15,679 --> 00:50:29,719
not not really made to made or
to forget it, I think because we

632
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,599
were so young, and this has
been something that's been told us by others

633
00:50:32,599 --> 00:50:37,119
in the field that we were.
We were young kids, and if there

634
00:50:37,199 --> 00:50:44,440
was something that they wanted to extract
or something that they wanted to exchange or

635
00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:51,119
or mutually exchanged. You don't want
to drug somebody up and then extract something

636
00:50:51,159 --> 00:50:58,440
from them because you're extracting what you're
using to pollute or or alter the body

637
00:50:58,599 --> 00:51:05,760
before you extract it. So being
a reear own negative and being that my

638
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,920
son is so advanced today, which
is proven by school records and everything else,

639
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:15,320
it's let me telling you that we
think something was eavenly exchanged. Now,

640
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,199
if there was something in these packets
that were exorbed in our skin,

641
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,880
and there was something that was extracted
from us at the same time, you

642
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:28,280
wouldn't want to be drugged up you
put you know that would have happened first,

643
00:51:28,639 --> 00:51:30,719
and then they would have put the
packets on you for your body to

644
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:35,719
exhorb something. And then at the
end of the day you know, it

645
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:37,880
puts you out. One of the
packets puts you out. One of the

646
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:45,639
package is something else, what have
you? And then you know your your

647
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:50,519
little moment of testing or whatever is
completed, and you brought back into this

648
00:51:51,079 --> 00:51:53,360
world. March I was standing in
and then we're back in the car.

649
00:51:54,039 --> 00:52:00,000
Now. My mother was completely unconscious. My brother was out like a life.

650
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:05,440
My grandmother was the one who first
was awake, wide awake, and

651
00:52:05,599 --> 00:52:09,119
I found her walking in the middle
of the road. Now she had turned

652
00:52:09,119 --> 00:52:13,840
the car around and shot right back
into town where a store was where they

653
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:15,440
made the knife drop. Because one
of the stores was open, the Silks

654
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:22,559
restaurant on convenience store, and some
money sold candy and ice clan, and

655
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,000
so when she went back there to
get them, that's when I realized how

656
00:52:25,079 --> 00:52:30,239
much time had passed, because they
were getting ready to close. And so

657
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:37,519
she speaks to the owner of the
restaurant upstart the convenience store, and she

658
00:52:37,599 --> 00:52:39,599
gets wrapped up in bikes and strollers
and these other things in there, and

659
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:44,119
she's trying to find her way out, and she's not really thinking clearly.

660
00:52:44,559 --> 00:52:47,079
I walk in after her, and
I'm trying to you know, Nana and

661
00:52:47,199 --> 00:52:50,960
Nana, you are trying to get
her attention because everyone else in the car

662
00:52:51,039 --> 00:52:54,239
is out. And she finally takes
my hand and walk out of the store

663
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:59,480
over there, and she starts breaking
down a little bit, starts to shave

664
00:52:59,559 --> 00:53:01,440
and cry a little bit. It
was a bad day for her, and

665
00:53:01,559 --> 00:53:06,119
she gets cups over to the car. My mother now is up and she

666
00:53:06,119 --> 00:53:08,800
gets into the driver's seat. My
grandmother gets back in the passage seat.

667
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:12,719
For some reason, they were reversed. My grandmother was in the driver's seat.

668
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,440
My mom had been driving earlier,
so they were reversed. And my

669
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,880
brother starts to come to and like, I say, come too. That's

670
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,840
what it was like. It was
like we were put out. It was

671
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,599
like we were under anesthesia or some
type. Which is why my father said,

672
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,840
you know, he thinks that would
happen in sixty nine. Was a

673
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:30,800
little closer to home than we realized
that there was a joint effort there,

674
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:36,199
because this was a big place that
we were in certainly wouldn't fit in scale

675
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,760
of what we saw as the craft, and you know, the two years

676
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:42,639
earlier, so we don't really know
where we were. To be honest with

677
00:53:42,679 --> 00:53:45,440
you, I was still trying to
figure that out one out, but it

678
00:53:45,519 --> 00:53:52,719
was a big facility and we drove
home not a word. My mother switches

679
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,800
our room, she changed the rooms, gives us the front room, the

680
00:53:55,880 --> 00:54:00,719
master bedroom actually closes off the back
room, puts the house up for sale,

681
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:05,360
and we're out of there, and
we moved to Great Barrington. And

682
00:54:07,519 --> 00:54:13,519
then after my father marries my mother
and graduates law school, he gets an

683
00:54:13,559 --> 00:54:19,760
offer in the Cane area and accepts
it and even a lawyer, and now

684
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,400
he's an office for two terms.
He's back by Senator Chriss. Dad.

685
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,880
He make an all kinds of political
you know friends. And I've had coffee

686
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:30,880
at Governor Viker's house or the Governor's
mansion, i should say. And then

687
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:36,119
my father starts running into Robert Bletchman, who used to work with Jail and

688
00:54:36,199 --> 00:54:39,400
Heinich, And after a couple of
drinks, we start talking and I start

689
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:44,159
meeting him on Fridays at his office. He takes an interest in our case.

690
00:54:44,199 --> 00:54:46,320
He finds the Heine classification that it
was given in nineteen sixty nine.

691
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:51,119
He tells us he's got something big
coming up, which happens to be the

692
00:54:51,199 --> 00:54:53,920
United Nations opposing you know, in
a couple of years. This is probably

693
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:58,360
eighty nine to ninety, you know, eighteen months down the road. You

694
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,639
know, would really like to just
your case. Is your father still in

695
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,440
politics? Yes he is. You
know, I don't think I appreciate that,

696
00:55:05,119 --> 00:55:07,480
and sow my father and him being
being friends, and the fact that

697
00:55:08,039 --> 00:55:10,800
we decided if we illegally retained him, you know, we would have some

698
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:15,639
control over it. And so I
did. I did Robert at check for

699
00:55:15,679 --> 00:55:19,679
fifteen hundred dollars, and he mentioned
our case at the United Nations and supported

700
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,639
thirty three four twenty six, and
he did so very pathfully. And it

701
00:55:22,679 --> 00:55:29,280
was really only this only piece of
this that he really found of interest,

702
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:34,360
and because he was still talking about
the cash landman in the Hudsons of a

703
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,880
Valley case, that the feeling that
we had about the environment, you know,

704
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:42,440
how it would just seem to change, and how the barometric pressure seemed

705
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,760
to change, and how life would
go kind of still and quiet and become

706
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:50,519
like a dead calm, and then
your body would pick up on this field

707
00:55:50,639 --> 00:55:57,800
or energy and this lighterness and almost
a you know, a gravity, and

708
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,199
it was very very strange. It
was a vibe doesn't really do a justice.

709
00:56:01,519 --> 00:56:05,199
If you took three moons, like
you've got a full moon out,

710
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,079
you have more you know, full
moon you want to go out and party

711
00:56:08,159 --> 00:56:12,400
and stay out later, have that
extra drink and be okay. If you

712
00:56:12,519 --> 00:56:15,559
had three full moons, you know, you have an energy about you.

713
00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:21,199
It's not anxiety. There's just something
that your body is in the water.

714
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:28,039
So you almost feel different, you
know, almost enlightened. And that is

715
00:56:28,159 --> 00:56:31,599
kind of like what it was.
There's no way you're going to sleep and

716
00:56:31,599 --> 00:56:36,519
and then bang it changes and you're
like placid and oh there's eruption of cricket.

717
00:56:37,159 --> 00:56:40,800
That's what it was like. Wow, we only have a couple of

718
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:45,119
minutes. And what I'm going to
do, if it's all right with you,

719
00:56:45,679 --> 00:56:49,360
Tom, is I'm not sure how
this live stream is going to work,

720
00:56:49,639 --> 00:56:52,159
and so I'd like to hold you
on in case it doesn't work.

721
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,239
I know it's kind of a second
fiddle thing. I hope you don't take

722
00:56:55,280 --> 00:57:00,440
it that way, But anyway,
is that all right with you? What

723
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,719
do you want me to just hang
on? Yeah, but we're not ready

724
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:07,320
to go just yet. Because if
this is the end, I want you

725
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,519
to answer one of the chat room
questions and what did the beings look like?

726
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,559
Well, there were two there there
were what looked very human to me.

727
00:57:17,559 --> 00:57:25,079
They had it almost looked like,
you know, skin tight white clothing

728
00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:31,239
off white clothing and uh, you
know, I don't like the I don't

729
00:57:31,239 --> 00:57:37,719
want to use the long terminology.
But they looked almost like smaller Asian you

730
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:43,480
know, people with the scent with
eyeglasses, large eye, you know,

731
00:57:43,559 --> 00:57:45,880
type of eye lens is no hair, and they had a weak chin.

732
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:53,199
But everything else pretty human to me. But but then there were yeah,

733
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:59,920
not the grays people talk about.
I didn't see that. But but the

734
00:58:00,159 --> 00:58:07,320
insect thing that I've actually drawn and
I found my website that looked like a

735
00:58:07,519 --> 00:58:12,639
like an ant, a big ant
stand in fact, the it had a

736
00:58:12,679 --> 00:58:19,760
gray long, grayish mushroom shaped or
colored a skin tonnel to it from the

737
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:25,119
neck down. It had limbs that
kind of stemmed the arms if it was

738
00:58:25,159 --> 00:58:29,119
the arms and the legs kind of
stemmed from the same lower part of the

739
00:58:29,159 --> 00:58:35,559
body. They're very stick like and
they end in my sketch. The lines

740
00:58:35,559 --> 00:58:37,960
in it are more like a gray, but they were more like a wine

741
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:42,159
color, you know, like a
red wine color wings on it, and

742
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,440
the head was more like a bronze
gold and it seemed very smooth. It

743
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:49,679
didn't seem like the eye popped out
of it. It almost looked like it

744
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:54,360
was a smooth, spheared head but
the size of a football. And of

745
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:59,079
course alien mysteries gave it you know, buck teeth and everything, but I

746
00:58:59,119 --> 00:59:04,760
didn't see any that. It just
looked like a goldish it's fall yeah,

747
00:59:05,119 --> 00:59:10,320
stupid, but like it wasn't odd
enough like a football shape. That was

748
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:15,719
smooth. Eyes well just like an
ant you know you can pry or like

749
00:59:15,079 --> 00:59:17,440
like that of a snake's eye,
you know how they're like open all the

750
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:21,800
time. But they just looked like
the frind right in like that. And

751
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,320
it was about four feet tall,
had a little bit of a tear drop

752
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:30,519
body, and it had like human
hands. So people have said to me,

753
00:59:30,599 --> 00:59:34,840
well, well that sounds pretty pretty
odd. Well, but then then

754
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:38,039
the wre you know, we're splicing
monkeys with jellyfish now, and we're we

755
00:59:38,119 --> 00:59:44,199
have spiders that were grabbing the DNA
from that and incorporating it into a cow

756
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:49,039
to spider silk, which is like
a powerful type of material now that the

757
00:59:49,039 --> 00:59:53,000
government's using for bulletproof vests, and
you know, we're we're playing with species

758
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:57,039
here, so it occurs to me. Now I can talk about it better

759
00:59:57,119 --> 01:00:00,760
because it doesn't sound so far fetched
anymore that you know, what we saw

760
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:07,280
looked like a big spider. But
then again, if I said to you,

761
01:00:07,199 --> 01:00:08,480
you know, how big is the
average bird, you'd probably tell me

762
01:00:08,519 --> 01:00:13,800
a couple of feet wide. But
then again, you go back to prehistoric

763
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,519
days, they had thirty eight foot
wingspan, So just because something's an inch

764
01:00:16,559 --> 01:00:20,960
tall here doesn't mean it's an inch
tall somewhere else. I mean, we

765
01:00:21,039 --> 01:00:24,360
have miidgets that are three and a
half feet, and we've got basketball players

766
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:30,760
that are seven. Right, So
it basically looked like I didn't even interrupt

767
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:37,119
you, but it looked like someone
took some human DNA and made an intelligent

768
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:45,480
spider that could perform tasks that would
be almost impossible for humans to do it

769
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:50,559
because we're not very strong. Right, Yeah, yeah, they can jump

770
01:00:50,599 --> 01:00:53,639
twenty spiders are all over. Hey, Tom, we didn't get to talk

771
01:00:53,639 --> 01:00:57,239
about much, and so if you
want to hang on for just a minute,

772
01:00:57,239 --> 01:00:59,679
because I'd like to have you back, but let's just see if the

773
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:04,360
other show is working. So just
hang on just for a second. Absolutely

774
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:16,599
and I'm not hearing a thing.
Let me just refresh here, am I,

775
01:01:16,679 --> 01:01:21,800
honor? You're still on. We're
still uh, we're still live and

776
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:34,679
so but I'm just not sure how
his I think that's it. I don't

777
01:01:34,719 --> 01:01:40,119
know. Here we go, hang
on just a second. So, Tom,

778
01:01:40,159 --> 01:01:43,840
I want to thank you so much. The other show is going live

779
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:45,280
and we're going to tap into that. Thanks so much. We'll have you

780
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:49,719
back on. Yeah, please do
Thanks again, everybody. All right,

781
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,639
you take care and I'll be talking
to you soon. All right, good

782
01:01:52,679 --> 01:01:55,119
night, buddy. Good ye.
So that's it for this part of the

783
01:01:55,159 --> 01:01:59,360
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784
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,880
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785
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786
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:12,320
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787
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,760
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788
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:20,760
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789
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,800
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790
01:02:24,119 --> 01:02:29,960
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791
01:02:30,239 --> 01:02:37,639
Reid and our second guest was actually
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792
01:02:38,079 --> 01:02:44,519
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793
01:02:45,039 --> 01:02:51,119
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794
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795
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796
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798
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