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this and more on another crutch slapping episode

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of full Stone. Oh hello everyone, I'm Dave Stecco with us for this

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extraordinary episode of bull Stone. Asterisk
to be explaining the second Mister Greg Bach,

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comedian from Sweet Sweet Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Hello, Wow, Yeah,

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I just creepy. What's wrong with
me? If I just thought it was

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sexy, I didn't notice the creepy? Nothing wrong with you at Also,

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nothing wrong at all. I'm perfectly
adapted to be prayed. Oh Bullstone,

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Welcome aboard everyone. This is where
we do the very least research and the

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very most talking Yeah with Frans.
One thing I realized that I don't know

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we ever really explained the title Bullstone. I guess we didn't, did we

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know? Uh? Like god,
what a year and a half ago,

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I was referring to something that was
bullshit is Bullstein and you were like,

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that's just Bullstone? Yeah? Stein
Meanstone? Yeah, Stein Meanstone. So

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there you go. That was that
was season one? Yeah, because I

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think I just posted the episode that
you you said it on on YouTube,

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so I was listening to it recently. It's like, oh yeah, so

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yeah, that's that's where we get
Bullstone. So it's just me making fun

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of Dave, yeah, and and
me trying to take it back. I'm

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wearing it as a badge of honor. Hold me, Greg, I will

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hold you in a day the week. Yeah, bull Bullstone is just something

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that that is making fun of Dave
or still that's where that comes from.

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But Bullstone where we get to just
talk to friends about stuff that they want

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to talk about. Yeah, and
we are we are held to no accountability

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and not that we have journalistic integrity, but if we did, we wouldn't

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have it now, it would be
gone. Yeah, we'd take those journalistic

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integrity briefs off, yeah and put
on our our talking boxers, which are

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our our assless Yeah. And they
don't they don't they have that little they

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don't have that little button on the
front. So like accidents will happen.

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Whoop. See I was just doing
some jump in Jackson, Dear God,

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just discussing a valid point and peek
a boo, what's going on? Barn

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doors open? I'll just mosey wowt
silling. This episode could use a crotch

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slapping. So Greg brought a fun
subject. So Greg, tell us what

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we've won. We've won A wonderful
discussion about the bell Mez Faces, a

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haunting out of the village of Belmez
in Spain. I see Joanna guitar very

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nice and uh it was I guess
if you maybe like thirty forty years ago,

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a lady named Maria was in her
house and no no, no,

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no no no no, no no
no, and on the floor of her

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house these faces would begin to appear
and it was just unexplained, and uh,

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they would they would form, and
then they would go away and they

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would come back and they would take
different, different, different faces. Some

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would be familiar, some wouldn't be, and they brought in scientists and it

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was all starts of hubbub. And
I think it's important to point out that

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this is separate. This was at
no point where the faces of Jesus or

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Mary. These weren't like, no, they never Jesus and toast or in

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a water stain thing. These were
just faces. It's like Steve down the

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streets on my floor. Yeah,
I'll tell you though, Steve in the

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shower. See what we do.
Obviously, for Bullstone we say this ten

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thousand times, so you know,
so you get it. There's one more

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time for you. We don't do
research for this, but if a guest

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has something they want to talk about
and and Dave and I aren't familiar with

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it, will watch a video they
suggest to familiarize ourselves with it. We

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did it for fair Point. We
did it for the Bell Mez faces.

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So we did watch a YouTube video. Don't There's there's no court in the

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world that could consider that research.
There's just there's just no way. Seven

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and a half minutes of pure nothing. Yeah. So one thing that these

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faces remind me of is that church
that where the woman accidentally scrubbed Jesus's face

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off and then repainted it. Oh
yeah, yeah, it is. You're

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right. It does have a certain
Jenna say, how to paint. They're

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very uh now now they're they're in
the stone. It's basically two colors.

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It's it's like a dark of the
stone and then the stone color itself.

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If you were to do this yourself, it would look like you use charcoal.

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Yep. Yeah, it's exactly what
it looks like. It looks like

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charcoal. And so these faces look
a lot of them have very round faces,

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very distinct lines where you know,
it's it's like taking taking a piece

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of paper and just drawing a face, drawing the eyes in, drawing almost

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with the thing down the middle,
to give you symmetry of where everything goes,

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right, Yeah, there's some of
that. And there's also like,

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at least in what I saw on
the video, like a lot of either

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stylized mustaches or everyone had screaming double
nostril nosebleeds yeah well or or yeah the

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or like the Bruce Willis lines going
down, oh yeah, down the face

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there. Why did you have to
show up on an itching Is stone,

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John Gould? It you could have
been in the sixteen chapter, Johnny boy,

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you had to show up on a
Spanish ladies floor. That's why,

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John McLean. If you case anybody
look beer, don't worry. I yeah,

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Madre one thumb. Fun thing that
I enjoyed about the videos, apparently

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this village is in central Spain because
it's not Bell Mez, it's bell Math

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barth accent with employed throughout the production
of the video, and I thought it

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was delicious. I'll tell you what
I've been to Southern Spain, alright,

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alright, no more stories, no
more stories, all right. I always

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wondered why you always had like an
expertly made picture of San Gria laying around,

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sorry and a sword, and you
don't share from I'm been to Spain.

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I'm David Flora. I'm international traveler. There was a point I was

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gonna make, but now I'm just
an a because David Flora with his international

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code of Patches, that man's an
international mystery stories and war stories? Why

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were you in the Southern I don't
have a tell us. You tell us

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your story. Don't have a point, don't have a point. I like

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that story. These these faces.
One other weird thing about them was they

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would show up when Maria was around, and then they fade and disappear when

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she wasn't right, they would also
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They say they would show up when
she was upset. They said that

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when she showed strong emotion. The
the hard hitting video said that when she

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showed emotion she was upset or depressed, they would show up. I wish

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that the hard hitting video showed that, because every time I saw her,

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she just looked like she was cart
from Stone sitting in a barkle lounge.

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Right. Well, well, she
looked like ed Asner. I mean,

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I mean a sexy ed Asner.
We don't get me wrong. I would

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not kick her out of bed Free
and Crackers. Obviously, we haven't looked

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up the information to find out how
or whether or not they have been debunked.

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I have a theory about how I
would do that. If I had

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to fake that, if I had
to fake that funk on a nasty dunk.

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Well, let's save it for fine. Let's talk about from South of

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Spain some more. Then, WHOA, We've been a whole new point of

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Bullstone had the jealousy chapter. That's
right, I've never been to Europe.

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And it makes me crazy with jealousy. What was never shown in the video

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or I don't think there maybe video
of although there could be, we didn't

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look at it anymore. There isn't
a video of these happening, these showing

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up and fading and blah blah blah. There's plenty of pictures of the faces,

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plenty of people saying this is what
happened. But I never saw any

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video. And they have plenty of
video of the woman and the you know,

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the people that have come in to
look at the stuff. Why didn't

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somebody just stick around and say,
let me just videotape this. And I

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again, I mean, this is
why this is perfect. I mean,

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did they experts came in and like
tested, they took samples and everything came

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back nothings. It just they had
the paranormal photographer guy hold the thing down

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and take pictures and that was I
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Oh okay, So no scientists and
no experts, Oh no, oh no,

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they had scientists come in and they
could and the and the and the

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and the word was they couldn't explain
it. Yeah, George Sukolo, sound

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it is such a thing even possible. Yes it is. Oh, I

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know how that much pains you?
Yeah every time. Now. One other

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thing that that they brought up in
the video was that they replaced the floor

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and they and they still showed up
yep, which you know, that's that's

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an interesting detail. Charcoal give me
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Yeah, and what else did they
say? They said that, Oh,

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yeah, it was built on an
ancient burial, yes or not.

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Maybe maybe not ancient, but at
least like a graveyard. The house was

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built on an old graveyard. Really
so, and right under the I guess

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the first face that showed up was
human remains m yep, so you know,

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kukie. Yeah, it sounds sounds
like a nice ghost story, better

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than the ones we read. Well
the one that The other thing too,

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is that when they said when she
died, the face has never appeared again

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in that house, they started appearing
in the home that she was born in.

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She died, she's dead, but
ten years now, Yeah, she

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did, she did, She told
Dan, Yeah, to heaven. She

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ran a foul of some It was
a black jack circuit or baccar rot ring.

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They were fixing games in Monaco.
And she was on the lamb for

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a few years, but they caught
her, they killed her. Excuse me,

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it's Spain. I believe that would
be negro One. You're right,

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You're right, Jan, it is
probably not Jack and Sam. Sorry yack

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yah yack hack negro hack hack.
And I don't mean what do they say?

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Are you baccar rotted all over the
place? Up? You are disgusting

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cleanness? Do you take you when
your faces out of my poddlar? So?

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Yeah, so these things I mean, according to the video, are

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unexplained, I guess. I mean, I'll look him up after this see

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what what's been done about it.
But I want the fun of BULLI yeah,

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I'm not going to leave. I'm
gonna wallow in my sweet sweet ignorant.

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You're gonna tell everybody how mysterious and
haunted they are from now on wallow

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and you're ignorance and just make speculations
after that, do you know? But

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Greg, Yeah, they said that. They said that the in recent years

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scientists had come around more towards the
time as she had died, like around

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the closer when she had died,
and they really couldn't find any explanation to

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say that yes, this basically the
science had debunked it and it was just

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a really unimportant haunting, if you
will, Like they didn't really take like

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when like when the video the video
we saw is old and back in those

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days, you know, it's it's
anything that goes bump in the night gets

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a piece, like they'll go,
they'll go and and and do some coverage

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on it. But now I think
that the scientists would just really like,

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this is this there's nothing here,
this is any anything that arises is completely

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explainable, any sort of scientific patterns. I did not do a lot of

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research, sure, sure did.
Have you ever been to Spain? No?

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Have you been to Europe? Yes? Damn, hey, Stecco,

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have you been to the south of
the Earth. There's nothing to be jealous

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about it about Antarctica. It's white, white as far as the eye can

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see. I guess I just don't
see it like you do, man,

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I see it is an accomplishment.
Whatever, man, whatever, don't feel

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proud of yourself. I don't know
why I go southern over time. But

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you know, fair enough we might
be going to Europe next year. We

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should try and coordinate a pub crawl
around Merry Old England maybe Oireland. Oh

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absolutely, because if we could do
like UK British Isles mysteries live. Oh

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yeah. First of all, if
you think we were drunk for at Saint

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Patrick's Day, you were right.
Yeah, you're right, You're right.

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God, I listened to that the
other day. That was wow. How

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I haven't I haven't really listened to
that. I should, It's wonderful.

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But yeah, maybe we'll crawl around
the British aisles, collecting some stories from

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people and having some fun. And
the thing that the thing for me that's

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interesting about this is and Seco you
brought this up, said there was no

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holy nature. Yeah. I think
that's why no one really cares. You

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know, when someone cuts the face
of Jesus into an orange, people freak

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out. When they, you know, anything that has to do with a

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rosary and a piece of toast,
people go nuts. But this is just

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some lady who's has faces appearing.
It's it's a it's a it's a local

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legend. It's oh, it's cute. You know. That's a good point.

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But I never heard of it until
you know, a few weeks ago,

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until I was allowed in the High
Players the high Rollers room, in

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Monaco, where they played Negro,
the Monaco baccarat, famed for its ability

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to lose money. I too have
played a game, yeah in America called

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twenty one, and like the finest
parlor games of Monaco, it fermented in

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the blood of losers. All right, well you know what, let's you

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you wanted to talk about what you
think, what you think it is,

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Let's go on and just do it. Okay, you know what I if

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I to take that, um,
I would do a little um mycology research,

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I would look into uh, mushrooms. No, but I would look

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into mildew spores and I would see
what is the best medium for them to

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grow on, what is the the
best food. I would then suspend that

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in a clear water solution and painted
onto a support as surface like a stone,

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and then just let that shit happen. Boom debunked. All I'm saying

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is I've got a filthy fucking bathroom, and that's how I'd do it.

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Yeah. I was thinking because in
the video they say there's no chemicals that

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were determined to be present and things
like that. It seems as though it's

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almost like one of those Revolutionary War
secret letters that they'd stand where they lemon

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juice or urine, right, Yeah, they would draw it out in something

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that was only that would only show
it in a certain in the presence of

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like maybe heat or you know.
You could even just take some mildew,

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mix it up in a large volume
of water until it's not dark anymore,

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and paint with that and then it
would refill in real big on the mildew.

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I'm telling you that's my go too. I'm gonna, you know what,

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I'm gonna start haunting people with mildew, like because you could, you

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could like draw messages and really mess
with people's lives that like slowly showed up.

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And you know that. And this
is another thing about the whole the

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situation is that no one was scared, no one was terrified. She really

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just liked them. She wanted,
she said, when she died, she

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wanted to take them with her.
Yeah, you know it was. It

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was really just the most boring roommate
situation ever when it comes to a haunting.

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And like I think either of my
faces as she said that, they

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when when they appeared, they and
you moved around the room, they looked

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at you, they followed you.
But I mean Lisa does that. Yeah

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right, they say that with They
say that about a lot of things.

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Do you think that she did it
herself? I do? Yeah, Yeah,

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it's crazy old lady she is.
The fact that she said she wanted

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to take them with her shows that
she was an old show. She wasn't

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old. She was she was alone
and she wanted company and she wanted people

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around. I mean, there's nothing
wrong with that. And she didn't hurt

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anyone honestly, Like people like followed
her as a religion. I did you

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know if that was her doing then
she did it? Yeah, I don't

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know. I didn't say if she
you know, had a family, you're

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married or anything. And she didn't
like set up the pan nickel to come

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see the crazy faces of my house. Yeah, so that's true. I

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don't know, is if even if
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that's just the thing. I look
out and once and once she did

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die and the faces start in,
the faces moved away. It's not like

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people like cared anymore. They're like, oh, they're they're just down the

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street. Now we're good. Now. They said they showed up at her

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the home of her birth. Did
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they stayed around there or just did
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them saying the video, it just
seems like it was it was more or

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less just a ps to the whole
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a like a way to tie it
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she's she has died, that's it. Thought she was doing it. Yeah,

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yeah, exactly, like like well
just in case, it's just so

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you think the story hasn't ended.
Yeah, yeah, they moved to a

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smaller house down the road. How
I'm saying is if I was doing that

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and I knew I was gonna die, go paint you some spores to an

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area, then die, that picture
will emerge weeks after your demands, the

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gift that keeps on giving sporeolatically get
some black mole going in there. People

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really notice. They said at one
point they thought it might be a local

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artist in the town. I guess
the town had one. Oh yeah,

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yeah they did have the artist,
but who are you? I am the

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artist. But they were also like, but this is clearly not his work.

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Yeah it's that good. Yeah,
And also like you can't explain how

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they would appear and disappear, you
know, from if if somebody were sneaking

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it at night, if they were
showing up when he got up in the

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morning, that's one thing. But
if they're appearing and disappearing, I think

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the sport I mean, if she
if she went that deep the spores and

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mildew, I mean, that's an
interest because because you can easily wipe away

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from charcoal, you can easily wipe
away any sort of foreign object you paint

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on there. But you know,
based on what you're saying, it seems

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like that would get into the actual
material and you can just wipe it away

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and it would just eventually fade and
you're like, oh, they're gone,

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they'll be back soon, and then
you know, in two weeks they're back,

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you know. Uh. Also,
I mean maybe it was the local

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artist, because it's not if if
Pablo Picasso was like, Okay, it's

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time to run a little scam here, it's time to do some stuff,

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but I'm going to make sure to
do it perfectly in my signature style.

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I don't think they'll put the pieces
together. No, like Pablo Picasso started

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a whole movement, or at least
it was like one of the four runners

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of it. But I'm saying that, like eery, artist has a specific

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style, and if you were looking
to to to participate in a hoax,

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would you make a point of doing
what you normally right? This this face

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is missing an ear right the only
the only way that you could say,

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rule him out, as if these
faces were like really detailed and really well

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done, and the town's artists they're
like, no, this guy just isn't

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nearly this good. No, he's
not capable of doing this. He does

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not have this kind of I wouldn't
say the word hack, but I wouldn't

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also say the word good. H
That was it was interesting. During the

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video they say there's familiarity of the
face, and what I think the voice

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is saying is that it looks like
people in the town. But when they

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said familiar, actually one of them
looks like it was inspired by da Vinci.

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Like the drawing of the face,
it's it's a profile, it's got

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a it's got a it's got a
very Leonardo da Vinci sketch influence to what

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it looks like. Where's the other
ones are straightforward and very uh angular,

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whereas this was like a little more
flowy, like it reminded me of of

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a Da Vinci self portrait. I
can really crap da Vinci self portrait.

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Okay, so then let me ask
you this, Um, I've I've come

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out with my my plan, your
your mild my mild plan, which is

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a fucking great plan which will kill
ell everyone in Bellmas in like six months

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right right too? I mean real
artist provocative and sometimes it provokes lungs to

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fill with fluid. Uh, Greg, how would you manage this hoax?

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I think I'd probably would be more
like the them bringing the artist in it

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like or like it maybe. Okay, so like in my head, like

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we're talking about the the the idea
that she was lonely. Maybe you you

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go, you go into her house
when she's sleeping or when she's not there,

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and you do it for her as
maybe a way of saying, you

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know, giving her some attention.
You know, if I'm her, uh,

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I probably just draw them and and
run out of the door and be

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like the faces, the faces.
And so while you're while you're in this

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woman's home at three in the morning, after you've broken and entered, yeah,

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and you're you're working on this,
you're just gonna go. She's a

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little less lonely nature words right out
of my mouth, flora. Um.

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I think I would try and figure
out a system to that that is activated

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by body heat whoa, which means
that you know, that would make sense

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for when they were near it,
it would appear, and then when they

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went away from it, it would
it would disappear. How I would do

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that, Fuck, I don't know. I guess you'll just have to go

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back to the South of Spain to
find out what I did there right back.

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Yeah, all right, I'm gonna
drink more as well. We all

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should be drinking more because I mean, like people who set up hoaxes,

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you know, they do it for
attention. I mean, there are people

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that I think that have historically tried
to then make some money off set hoax

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But I think that I don't think
that's too crazy. I think it's safe

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to say the primary reason for an
old fashioned hoaxing is just attention. Yeah,

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to get people your point, Yeah, But my point is this,

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like it just seems like such a
bad way of doing it. I mean,

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some of these hoaxes are extraordinary elaborate, and they take a lifetime of

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dedication to a lie. Couldn't you
have just taken all of that time and

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effort and done something actually significant.
Well, I could I see, I

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see where you're coming from. But
I think if you may, if you

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look at from a different point of
view, or is you know, if

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she would have, if she would
have ran out of the house said the

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face of Jesus on my floor,
she would have gotten far more attention.

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Maybe her point wasn't to get that
much attention. Maybe she just wanted enough

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attention from the village, you know, because like when you when you get

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into a hoax, depending on it, Like, if you're just going for

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attention, you're going for attention once
you get it. But if if you

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make you can make a mistake that
gets you way too much attention, and

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then you're in the spotlight, and
you know one day you're gonna get found

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out, you know, and then
like I can see it, I can

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see it from both sides. What
if what if it wasn't What if she

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never planned to go this way?
What if what if she was cleaning her

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floor one day and just noticed that
the pattern that she cleaned happened to kind

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of look like a face, and
she thought, oh, that's funny,

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So she left it and then someone
walked in and was like, what is

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this? And then she's like,
well, it's kind of weird that I

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made a face on the floor.
I don't know what happened, you know,

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Like, could I just away from
her? Yeah, no, don't

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tell anybody, don't don't tell anybody. Oh this is gonna be now I'm

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gonna have to clean more. Yeah, I just I just think it takes

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so much, so much time and
effort to maintain a hoax. And there's

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so many famous hoaxes like the the
those British pixies or the pictures of the

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oh the fairy fairy pictures, and
then I mean and they're just really oh

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yeah those are terrible, ye,
terrible, but like but but it wasn't

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until they were like old ladies,
these little girls were like oh yeah that

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was total bullshit. But yeah,
well but that but that. But I

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think I go back to my point
is I think maybe could you could you

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say that she may have pulled off
the perfect hoax then because it got her

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attention, but not too much,
and never no one really like like when

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the debunking fully happens happened, no
one's also saying you ruin my life with

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this, Yeah, I guess.
I mean it was a it is a

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very low stakes sort of thing.
It's not like she was investing hundreds of

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hours in it, you know.
She she just had had these things or

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had them made or something like that, and you know, and it doesn't

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have to be a hoax. I
just personally think it is. That's the

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way I'm going that. I mean, maybe it's just some completely crazy phenomenon

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that well. I kind of thought
the first time I saw it, as

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it was going through and they were
talking about it, I thought, well,

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maybe this was something that was in
the stone before, either before she

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moved in or before the stone was
laid in there or whatever. Maybe it

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was you know, somebody had had
done something to the stone, carved these

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out drawn on it, whatever,
But then some kind of atmospheric condition or

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something in the actual house causes them
to appear and disappear, almost like a

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mold, almost like mildew. Maybe
shut up, like it's all got a

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mirror, Oh yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah. But then they said they

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replaced the stone and it still happened, so that that to me, I

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was like, well, I don't
know if that would unless they cut the

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stone from the same place and it
was just like the face drawing s.

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They cut the stone and they stopped, but there was like this pattern in

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that part of rock, and they
just cut more of them put it in.

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I'm like, well it's a little
different. Well, a regular stone

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cutter, you want to face don't
cute And I think that's if it was

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one face. Barcelona facetone. It's
very expensive, but people put it in

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their bathrooms, they put in their
kitchens. Barthelona facetone. It's good to

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get a massage with too. Everyone
is very excited about it. It's not

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quite marble, it's not quite a
Trabartine Barcelona. Every time you say it's

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squishes more. I think if there
was just one face, there could be

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more of the Maybe it's a there's
something in the actual stone that just happens

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to look like a face. But
because they replace the stone, because there

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are different stones, for me,
it's just that's different faces and yeah,

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yeah, yeah, it's it just
seems like an absolute hoax. Now they

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either way it's bull stone. Shotgun
sound? Can we get it? Can

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we get a crotch slap? Snot
sound? Oh yeah, yeah, crotch

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slap. That was good. That
was good. That was good. It's

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good. I don't think I'd ever
want to pull off a hoax, but

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I would like to believe I'm capable
of it. If I was, I

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think you're I think I think you're
very capable. Depends on what it is,

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I guess. Yeah, I mean, like take for example, I

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mean the War of the Worlds.
This will I'm bringing it all together?

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Yeah, hoaxes or sin Wells.
No Spade Martians? Why Martians have long

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been celebrated for their abilities to invade
and enslave humanity. But what if I

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told you another into Spader their species
with that same dedication to enslave into Spaderer?

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Really enjoying my horse? And wells
are you it's coming along? But

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no, what are the worlds?
Which I need to listen? One of

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the greatest hoaxes ever? Yeah,
I mean they it wasn't It kind of

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lives in this weird space because it
was a hoax in that they were doing

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everything they could to make it sound
real, but just so that at the

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end of the show they could be
like, why not and not not like

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they wanted? That was actually the
original script not not not dicks. They

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They wanted people to believe it,
and they worked really hard to make it

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sound believable, but then be like, weird to have a lot of talent

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non display. This is oh so
uh. And I listened to it.

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They had it on NPR and Halloween
Night last year, and I didn't listen

407
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:34.279
to it this year. I want
to. It's just a cool radio play.

408
00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:37.920
Yeah, but like people on cassette, people weren't just like, oh

409
00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:41.880
you got me. People were like, holy effing shit. People were and

410
00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:45.200
people were pissed. He was in
the paper the next day. Yeah.

411
00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:48.240
And if you watch okay, so, if you ever watched the The Citizen

412
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:52.960
Kane documentary that r KO two eighty
one, the film is based off of,

413
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:55.720
they spit. Yeah, it's really
good. You get deep. Yeah.

414
00:31:55.759 --> 00:32:00.160
Yeah. They spent a particular section
about war the worlds in there,

415
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:04.319
and what they do is they talk
about they they interview people who were listening

416
00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:07.279
to the program at the time,
and like one lady. One lady said

417
00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:10.880
she was having her her her I
believe she said weekly bath. Okay,

418
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:15.960
it was a different time, yeah, And she talked about how she thought

419
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:19.519
this might be the last time she
ever bathed. This is last time she

420
00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:22.880
ever talked to her parents. They
talked to a woman who ran a switchboard,

421
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:25.680
and she just couldn't keep up because
she had no idea because they're in

422
00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:30.440
this room doing their work while the
entire world is going crazy at this point.

423
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:35.319
Yeah, and then it all happens, and the next day Orson Welles

424
00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:39.640
gets on very sullen, very apologically. We had, we had no idea

425
00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:43.960
what we were doing. We were
just trying to make a radio program.

426
00:32:44.920 --> 00:32:49.160
Just and then you're like, you
you're too smart for them to stop.

427
00:32:49.240 --> 00:32:59.400
Stop. How did Rison say it? We're just trying have a good radio

428
00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:06.440
program. Um. Like some of
the finest radio dramas, we too tried

429
00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:14.359
to entertain and radio dramas in Europe, we found radio d no idea.

430
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:27.200
I'm hungry. I'm hungry. I
brought it with me. Um yeah.

431
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:30.920
So yeah, so he like went, you know, for contrition, But

432
00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:37.279
like they had, clearly they put
a lot of really brilliant work into making

433
00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:40.480
it sound like they were going from
from this radio station to this radio station.

434
00:33:40.519 --> 00:33:44.359
Now this one went dark, so
this one's picking it up. Uh.

435
00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:46.960
I don't and I don't believe for
a moment that it was contrition.

436
00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:51.799
It was part of the act.
Oh yeah, he knew. He said

437
00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:53.279
one day in one of their meanings, that we are going to do this

438
00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:59.000
so hard that we are going to
they are going to think that we we

439
00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:01.720
had it's real, but we had
no idea what we were doing. I

440
00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:06.160
mean, we're just a simple little
radio program, right and then oh and

441
00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:07.199
then and then oh, the next
thing I know, I'm going to be

442
00:34:07.199 --> 00:34:12.679
directing Julius Caesar on Broadway. Yeah, exactly, I'm sorry, did I

443
00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:19.920
drama too hot for you? America
was acting so exquisite you could no longer

444
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:32.480
tell what you were experiencing mea kalpa. Wow, But that's I think that's

445
00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:37.960
a great example of like, uh
of of like the motives for a hoaxing.

446
00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:40.920
Yeah, you know, of of
of an angle one could play on

447
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:45.639
that. I was gonna bring up
the point that the faces, you know,

448
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:50.199
they throw out there, that it's
it's on this burial site and they're

449
00:34:50.239 --> 00:35:00.079
there, guys, they're above these
bones, these I'm we but in the

450
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:05.599
end they tie it to the woman, not to sighte. Yeah, so

451
00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:10.320
like why red Herrings mother ran?
Yeah? Mother man? A man?

452
00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:17.480
What does his mother? Man?
I think his marvel superhero ever. Look

453
00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:22.440
at this guy. It's mother man. Oh no, he's gonna breastfeed me.

454
00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:28.639
He cannot be stopped from wiping your
face after a meal. Let's go

455
00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:31.920
here. It comes, endless guilt
trips. He's gonna put me in the

456
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:38.280
time out of justice. He's just
he's just really stressed out and overworked.

457
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:43.039
And you know between nobody appreciated.
Yeah between, let him have a glass

458
00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:47.400
of white wine or two? What
kind of wine? Pino? Oh?

459
00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:55.000
Yeah, Oh my god, that's
glorious. See, that's what happens when

460
00:35:55.039 --> 00:35:59.559
you when you when you're dive bombing
for mother far and then you pull out

461
00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:04.320
the last second. What's up,
mother man? I'm sorry, did you

462
00:36:04.360 --> 00:36:10.320
just try to insult it? No, like trying to relate to me with

463
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:20.679
the power of nurture or some say
nature, just as to make sure you

464
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:23.199
go to church on Sundays, mother
man. I mean, when you think

465
00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:28.000
about it, it's a hoax,
and no one was. Really there's a

466
00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:31.280
something to this one. There's something
a little sweet to it because she's just

467
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:35.599
a little old lady. That's all
I mean. Really, when it comes

468
00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:37.400
down to it, I mean,
never hearing it. That means that you

469
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:40.920
know, I've heard of all the
big hoaxes because they're they're usually religious based.

470
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:46.960
That's true, you know, so
some might say a little the greatest

471
00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:55.840
hoaxes take that certain parts of America. Yeah, and that's how the torches

472
00:36:55.880 --> 00:37:00.360
get lit. Yeah, well,
let me let me change gears here than

473
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:07.599
ask you. Right, he's doing
my job for me. Have you guys

474
00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:13.840
ever heard of anything else like these
things like the bellmez faces. Have you

475
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:20.880
heard of any other um hauntings or
hoaxes or non hoaxes or non hauntings.

476
00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:25.760
There's the there's the overpast Jesus.
Well, yeah, do you think that's

477
00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:30.599
the same well, kind of the
same thing though, because that it's a

478
00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:37.480
face that just showed up. But
I feel like that is somebody who is

479
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:43.920
very bored walking under the underpass,
being like, oh that nasty ass dropping

480
00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:47.559
from the rust of the girders above
it. Part kind it looks like a

481
00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:52.840
face. It must be Jesus trying
to tell me something. And then like

482
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:57.360
everybody else is like, oh,
yeah, that looks like Jesus, because

483
00:37:57.400 --> 00:37:59.880
you said it looks like Jesus.
You know, I'm not sure that's the

484
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:01.599
Lord, our guy giving us a
message, but I'm not going to end

485
00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:06.239
a gamble with it, so yeah, I will. Well that's what that's

486
00:38:06.840 --> 00:38:09.199
you know, there's there's tons of
those. I remember when I was a

487
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:15.440
kid, Aaron Young or Aaron or
Aaron O'Brien in fourth grade, her parents

488
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:20.599
Young, Aaron O'Brian, she her
parents were part of this group that would

489
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:29.320
go to a place called Magic Gorrier
turn gets Catholics, gets inside my magic

490
00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:35.760
green top hat. That's time to
go to Never trust a host that has

491
00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:38.239
the word magic in it. Uh. But it was the same thing,

492
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:45.719
play Magic to Go. It was
the mother Mary Apper Islands. Sorry,

493
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:51.320
it's trying, Greg, keep trying. We're all the decks are green,

494
00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:58.840
so it's mine. Whoa too far? Yeah? Was this middle school kids?

495
00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:05.440
Play cards? There? Man?
Okay, I mean it was just

496
00:39:05.519 --> 00:39:15.639
Aaron O'Malley is right, callahan.
She's riding on her magic lepre carn Darby

497
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:30.239
O'Gill, hey Sullivan, guys.
When I took a drink. Oh there,

498
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:32.960
oh man, No, it was
just the same thing as it was.

499
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:37.599
It was the mother Mary talking to
young children. They would go to

500
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:40.920
this mountain and the mother Mary,
Virgin Mary, you know Mary Mary Christ

501
00:39:42.280 --> 00:39:45.920
would marry Jay Christ, the Christ, the Queen of hip hop soul.

502
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:51.400
Yeah. Um, she would talk
to the youth and they would come down,

503
00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:53.239
and that the kids would come down
and the youth, Yes, only

504
00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:58.679
the youth. And it wasn't a
person enough, I have to say,

505
00:39:58.760 --> 00:40:02.159
and the only one sold or enough? Am I right? Everybody might right,

506
00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:15.000
hurry boy away or I'm from the
Middle East. Funny story by way

507
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:22.519
of an explanation, that's I mean, that's that's one of the ones I

508
00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:25.440
grew up hearing all the time.
And even then he's a kid. This

509
00:40:25.480 --> 00:40:30.079
is in Milwaukee, Magic Gorrier,
I believe that's South America. Oh okay,

510
00:40:34.039 --> 00:40:37.400
are the only way to throw the
bishops off my trail I put it

511
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:45.880
into America has fifty tank to long. But I remember like there was at

512
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:50.239
the first times I really doubted any
sort of religion thing or like like like

513
00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:53.760
that seems like a big bunch of
bull like stone. Uh you know,

514
00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:57.840
I just it just seemed really convenient
that that, you know, they were

515
00:40:57.840 --> 00:41:00.760
sending these kids up to talk to
them to actually it was one it would

516
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:04.800
it was it was one chosen one, and that would that that chosen would

517
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:07.719
cycle as the chosen who get older
than a new one would be picked,

518
00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:12.440
chosen one, what child to listen
to the mother Mary. So this was

519
00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:15.159
like the child Pope or the child
Dolly Lama. Yeah exactly, yeah,

520
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:19.360
yeah, and this and and and
and it was for years we'd hear her

521
00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:22.840
talk about this because their parents would
go all the time, because it was

522
00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:24.840
what we were talking about before,
a way to get people to get there,

523
00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:30.440
spend their money, buy things,
because she would come back with artifacts

524
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:35.079
and and and and booklets and things
like that. And and thinking back now,

525
00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:37.599
she's almost kind of selling us on
the idea as at one point they

526
00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:39.400
were going to come in with it. We have a great travel plan for

527
00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:43.280
y'all. Yeah, you guys want
to go to Magic Gorria. We got

528
00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:49.719
a great package seven days, six
nights at fabulous l Magic Gorya hotel promise,

529
00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:52.360
citing that means the Magic Gorya.
Yeah, that's right. It's an

530
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:59.280
all inclusive, all meals and beverages
at the Scream and Shamrock only. Oh

531
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:04.559
that sounds good. Irish casidias the
Oka of potatoes and flower tortillas o casidias.

532
00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:14.320
Okay, but that's fine, but
I'd prefer okayse a Guinness thank you

533
00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:17.239
for coming to Matricier. But seriously, the Lord our God's got something to

534
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:21.079
say. He has been west burned
to this wee one over here. I

535
00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:24.840
hope you're all that's found your rooms
now, hope everyone's comfortable. Did the

536
00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:29.599
did the child pope? Did he
live on this mountain? Is that what

537
00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:31.480
what happened? And then you'd go
up and he's like, you can ask

538
00:42:31.639 --> 00:42:35.960
true questions on me, and you're
like, are you really the child Pope?

539
00:42:36.119 --> 00:42:39.159
Yes? Are you really? Yes? Really, yes, that's your

540
00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:47.840
true questions. And then he goes, I, well, actually the one

541
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:52.079
that the one that they the child
didn't live in the mountain and it was

542
00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:57.440
a little girl at the time sexist
and uh, the girl was the child

543
00:42:57.440 --> 00:43:00.480
pope, the girls, but the
girl lived in the village. She didn't

544
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:02.639
live in the mountain. She was
the only one allowed to be sent up

545
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:07.119
there because they believe that she was
the only one who the mother Mary would

546
00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:08.800
So for most of the week she's
just a kid. And then they're like,

547
00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:13.639
oh, we're gonna get you to
go upstairs. And so you know,

548
00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:15.639
when she hit like twelve, got
really bad because she's like, I

549
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:17.519
don't want to go up there.
Anymore is stupid. I just want to

550
00:43:17.559 --> 00:43:23.320
play like this is really a stupid
out. It's super boring, mother upside

551
00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:30.320
down exclamation point movie, a stupid
wow. So what do you have?

552
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:35.440
You ever followed up on that at
all? I think there's some some creepy

553
00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:39.280
dude living up there who's like whispering
through the walls. Jeff. Here's here's

554
00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:42.639
what I think is if I had, if I had to take, if

555
00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:45.159
I had to hazard, a guess
of what happens, and you do,

556
00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:49.320
is that the the people who are
in charge of the organization, the people

557
00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:51.840
who believe in this the most,
say you will go up there, you

558
00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:54.480
will receive a message. And then
that child's gonna stand up there and receive

559
00:43:54.519 --> 00:43:58.920
any message he or she puts in
her head because they're going to be petrified

560
00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:00.719
to come down with nothing. So
they're going to simply come down and say,

561
00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:04.480
like, love everybody, Jesus is
great, let's have some milk case

562
00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:08.920
ideas. You we're in South America's
Bullstone man. Okay, all right,

563
00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:14.000
here's what I like. And this
is I am not asking for any clarification,

564
00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:17.119
and I will actively fight anyone who
tries to clarify it. But having

565
00:44:17.159 --> 00:44:22.199
come to the end of this story. I don't know what the truth of

566
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:25.679
that is. I didn't I was
not able to follow the true Terris Terrible

567
00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:29.079
story. No, no, no, no, really, it's my fault.

568
00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:31.679
It's me with my try in my
end. Listen, that's my fault.

569
00:44:31.719 --> 00:44:35.480
I did that. But I've just
here's the basic idea. There's a

570
00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:37.880
there's a mountain magic. Do you
not hear my preamble? Okay, yeah,

571
00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:40.480
you don't have to, you don't
have No, you don't have to

572
00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:45.360
explain. Let him wind down.
It was ghost sleeping like ten minutes.

573
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:51.079
He always gets a little irish.
How do you spell magic, Gorrier,

574
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:54.440
Mike, it sounds yeah, Okay, I've been in a magic mountain.

575
00:44:55.199 --> 00:45:00.079
It's not the same. Yeah,
it's a Canadian theme park. Oh god,

576
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:07.239
Canadia has the greatest steam parks Canada. No, okay. So,

577
00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:09.760
so to get back to your question, Flora, so you don't I mean,

578
00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:14.079
I guess, I guess. The
difference is the difference is is that

579
00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:20.760
someone you know knocks into lacks into
their own paradolia to see an image in

580
00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:23.039
an in a pre existing water stain. Sure, say, oh no,

581
00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:28.840
no, that's a Jesus or that's
a marrier or whatever. Then, but

582
00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:32.440
the different But the this woman we're
saying actively created the image, she made

583
00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:37.599
the hoax. Well, that's that's
one thought that we've thrown out the possibility.

584
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:42.199
Sure due this, we're not gonna
get sued by this lady she did.

585
00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:47.440
Yeah, the amount of Alex Jones, don't's gonna sue us. Oh

586
00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:50.719
yeah, Oh he will do one
thing and one thing only here. He

587
00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:58.039
will blow the lid off. Yes, George, George sucks, sucks sukoloss.

588
00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:06.000
We're gonna. Yeah, we're gonna
get sued. I know, but

589
00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:13.000
hopefully. I guess the a state
of Sarah Sarah Estes is gonna is It

590
00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:15.880
was that her name, wasn't it. Oh yeah, all these people are.

591
00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:21.320
If you feel like suing us,
tell you what steps Sarah, stay

592
00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:24.440
sorry, save yourself some time.
Send us a letter demanding two hundred dollars

593
00:46:24.440 --> 00:46:29.760
because that is the extent of our
of our width and breath. Fis fiscal

594
00:46:29.800 --> 00:46:31.679
ease, save yourself the lawyer fees. That's right. And if you think

595
00:46:31.679 --> 00:46:37.840
we were quick about getting the King
of Halloween certificates, is that still out

596
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:44.360
there? All request for two hundred
dollars? Care of Gray Cat, Fancy

597
00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:52.320
Feasts, Katy Pause Manner Esquire believe. I believe Gray Cat called me out

598
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:54.280
once on an episode I can't remember. I know you tend to beat me

599
00:46:54.400 --> 00:46:59.199
up now it's coming out. Yeah, you threatened to beat me up in

600
00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:02.400
a couple episodes I'm a couple now, Yeah, at least seven or eight.

601
00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:07.599
Yeah. Yeah, and you remember
the entire the second season of Greg

602
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:10.880
Bach fear that he was trying.
The whole second season was just him talking

603
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:17.599
about Bacula, Yeah, bacchanalien beat
down. Yeah, it's all but second,

604
00:47:17.679 --> 00:47:20.519
it's all about me. It was. It was an allegory for me.

605
00:47:20.679 --> 00:47:23.079
Yeah. Yeah, even if it's
only my head, every single episode

606
00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:30.639
is actually about Greg Bach. Yeah, finally I matter m okay hoaxes.

607
00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:35.800
Well, yeah that this this came
out of me, me asking if there

608
00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:39.039
was anything else that you could think
of that was sort of like this at

609
00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:42.639
all. I mean, I can't
really think of anything that you can't think

610
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:45.880
of a talking mongose that comes to
mind. That's a good point, though,

611
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:49.480
Yeah, that's a very very good
point. I think that that ties

612
00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:53.639
in very nicely. Actually, there's
like a there's a there's a creature I

613
00:47:53.639 --> 00:48:02.000
don't know if you guys ever covered
it. The bunyip, the dagdag,

614
00:48:02.519 --> 00:48:08.119
this is this is a this is
a Northern Wison. No, it's a

615
00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:14.599
Northern Wisconsin thing. Actually, I
did a show last year in Manito Wish

616
00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:19.159
Waters. Yeah that's right, Wow, the waters of Manto Wish like that,

617
00:48:19.280 --> 00:48:28.400
and they what did you wear?
As little as possible, just a

618
00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:32.679
mesh shirt and some hope. Yeah, it's there's a there's a there's a

619
00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:36.079
thing. And when you look at
like, when you look at all the

620
00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:40.480
all the creatures that you've covered,
there are stories that can ground the truth

621
00:48:40.519 --> 00:48:44.800
in it and the things that totally
debunk it. Whereas the hod egg was

622
00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:47.920
just like three drunk men saying,
let's take a big let's take the idea

623
00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:51.679
of an alligator and stick some horns, and I give a big teeth called

624
00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:54.400
a hodag. Because that's how people
in northern Wisconsin talk. That's a hood

625
00:48:54.440 --> 00:48:58.960
egg like, that's like and it
now has its own festival, the hood

626
00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:01.440
Egg Festival. They completely admit that
it's fake. It's made up. So

627
00:49:01.480 --> 00:49:05.960
it's like it's it's like a jackalope. Yeah, exactly exactly. It's it's

628
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:09.559
it looks like it. Yeah,
it's just like this big alligator with horns

629
00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:14.440
and like teeth that jut out.
I mean, it's it's judging by the

630
00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:16.880
Wikipedia pages, like four sentences.
I mean, why did they make this

631
00:49:17.599 --> 00:49:21.400
because they wanted attention? Most likely
it's just you know, I just think,

632
00:49:21.559 --> 00:49:23.480
yeah, yeah, you know back
in those days. Back in those

633
00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:29.199
days, you didn't have the sort
of worldwide coverage. You know, it

634
00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:32.960
probably went as far as maybe like
the Midwest, and then people remembered it

635
00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:36.039
down the road saying, oh,
the hod egg is gonna get you,

636
00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:38.880
yeah, and and no one really
It's just it's just so now it's just

637
00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:43.199
an excuse to say, like where
home of the hoed egg? Come drink?

638
00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:46.519
Yeah, it's those to me are
like the fun enough exactly. They're

639
00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:51.679
the fun, harmless hoaxes no one
cares about, and they're really stuck in

640
00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:53.960
a in a tradition of Yeah it
was, it was a different time.

641
00:49:54.480 --> 00:49:59.719
That's why. I mean, honestly, thinking about the faces of Bellemez is

642
00:49:59.760 --> 00:50:07.840
so interesting me because but it's it's
it's becoming more and more interesting to me,

643
00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:10.719
honestly because of the of the size
of the hoax that she could have

644
00:50:10.760 --> 00:50:17.119
easily said Jesus. Easily said Jesus
in Spain too, and said this is

645
00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:21.519
the face of Jesus, and people
would have lost their shit. True,

646
00:50:21.840 --> 00:50:23.519
I mean, and I guess,
I mean, yeah, I guess that

647
00:50:23.559 --> 00:50:30.039
speaks to the goal of it,
right, which that's the only thing that's

648
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:32.880
keeping me from being like, well, it's a slam dunk hoax that she

649
00:50:34.199 --> 00:50:38.760
perpetuated. True. I just don't
have any anything better to offer in terms

650
00:50:38.760 --> 00:50:45.280
of explanation for this particular case,
you know, like, was it a

651
00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:47.280
son or a family member that came
in and just kind of drew with his

652
00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:52.840
feet and then I was like,
hey, Mom, hey, grandma,

653
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:57.159
look over here. I don't know
this is this showed up in like what

654
00:50:57.360 --> 00:51:00.440
nineteen seventy one or something like those
seventies. I showed up in seven and

655
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:04.400
then she died No. Four,
Yeah, m you can't imagine those last

656
00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:07.320
mane Like probably it was the last
ten years she was around. She was

657
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:10.280
the local legend of Oh, yes, that's the place where the faces appear.

658
00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:15.039
Wonder how many people live in Bellmouth? Several minus Maria, probably twelve.

659
00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:21.000
I just think that, like it's
almost kind of a moot point.

660
00:51:21.039 --> 00:51:23.760
I mean, when you Okay,
So let's say for the next twelve seconds.

661
00:51:23.800 --> 00:51:29.119
Okay, not a hoax. Don't
you dare count me down? Uh,

662
00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:36.639
not a hoax. Okay, that's
right. Lucas sluts the side of

663
00:51:36.639 --> 00:51:42.480
the Mississippi and you're like, fine
dining, you'll want to come to,

664
00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:52.000
not a hoax with with internationally trained
chefs on staff. You'll love what we've

665
00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:57.880
got for dinner. Potato casadillas appeared
like speaking to Jesus thretty eyes of a

666
00:51:58.000 --> 00:52:05.920
little girl. I try, Heavenly, that's just the best one I do.

667
00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:17.480
I can't. Okay. So it's
not a home, not a hoax,

668
00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:24.119
okay. And an ethereal power from
the great beyond has decided to touch

669
00:52:24.239 --> 00:52:28.719
this mortal realm. It is where
on the mortal rema they're touching them um

670
00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:35.440
on the underside the floor. Because
let's assume that everything for these creatures is

671
00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:39.440
kind of like um, the sketch. No, it's it's like the uh,

672
00:52:39.480 --> 00:52:45.159
the very last scene of the Guns
N' Roses video for November rain No,

673
00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:50.159
um, uh, don't you cry? Where where um? There's like

674
00:52:50.199 --> 00:52:52.199
the Incredible Hulk with the shaking hands
in the grave. But it's like the

675
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:55.360
graves like a window. But everyone
above it's like, no, it's just

676
00:52:55.519 --> 00:53:05.360
Stone. Oh woh you deep November
Rain Trilogy videos. But yeah, I'm

677
00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:08.679
with you. We got to see
ax of Roses blue behind yeah, when

678
00:53:08.719 --> 00:53:21.320
he's like yeah, so say it's
totally real. Don't shoot cry tonight.

679
00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:31.199
There's a heaven above you, baby, much like the famous stuff Wow Orson

680
00:53:31.239 --> 00:53:38.840
Wills sings the gets of Guns and
Roses Rosebud. Ye, Oh my god,

681
00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:45.760
it's Arson Wells you Gus and Roses
cover Man Guns and Rosebud srich child

682
00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:54.199
Man. They shut up, baby, get it. Yeah, take me

683
00:53:54.360 --> 00:54:07.639
down the imperiodise city fremented in.
I have a new ALCO called Chinese Democrazy

684
00:54:08.559 --> 00:54:14.000
knowing. Did I go too far? Maybe I should have quit when I

685
00:54:14.119 --> 00:54:23.960
was directing going on here, Oh
my attorney, mister brown Stone man came

686
00:54:24.079 --> 00:54:34.760
to the jungle. You're never gonna
die. Yeah. Your person always sounds

687
00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:43.880
like he's one step away from shing
his pants. He is historically accurate,

688
00:54:44.559 --> 00:54:59.480
dude, we don't have he's imprisons. She's got eyes like the Skies,

689
00:55:00.519 --> 00:55:15.679
much like Wow gros Bud. Yeah
today, Yeah, Jared trademark, that's

690
00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:23.559
our sho oh man, there are
three people in the world who find this

691
00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:29.159
funny sitting in the same room right
now, that's all that matters. That's

692
00:55:29.199 --> 00:55:34.280
brilliant. Well, hi, everybody, I'm not sorry, and I don't

693
00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:36.920
even want to finish what I was
saying. I don't want I want to

694
00:55:36.960 --> 00:55:38.840
live in this moment forever. The
rest of the shows is to be us

695
00:55:38.960 --> 00:55:45.320
doing Orton Wells, doing guns and
roths. Oh my god, when you

696
00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:53.719
were young, you half was an
open You used to say, you know

697
00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:02.719
what, you can you get a
little burp in there. Careful, careful,

698
00:56:02.760 --> 00:56:16.239
he's heavy. Jesus, that's so
fun. Oh first thing, games,

699
00:56:16.360 --> 00:56:20.559
first thing that's coming off that heat
press is it is a guns and

700
00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:25.840
rosebud shirt. Oh man, well, oh my gosh, oh my god.

701
00:56:27.880 --> 00:56:35.280
So what were you talking about?
Oh my god, the pole Masonic

702
00:56:35.519 --> 00:56:47.239
Temple. Oh okay, so it's
Alex Jones. It's gonna be George Lewis

703
00:56:47.239 --> 00:56:53.119
in the estate of two hundred dollars. Gentlemen, whoever gets there first gets

704
00:56:53.159 --> 00:56:58.519
the prize. Great Cat Fancy Feasts, Squire the third, May the odds

705
00:56:58.519 --> 00:57:05.119
be ever in your favorite Oh this, you guys are probably like, what

706
00:57:05.159 --> 00:57:07.960
the hell are these jokers? Style? Everyone you gotta go watch the orson

707
00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:13.719
Welles drunk commercial out takes and watch
it again. We've men. I've mentioned

708
00:57:13.719 --> 00:57:15.840
that on the podcast like four times. If you haven't by now it's your

709
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:19.840
own roomple gotta gotta go watch it. It's just too much, man,

710
00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:32.920
too much. You're high. You
never come down, down down. Okay,

711
00:57:32.960 --> 00:57:35.800
So wait, where did this?
I think you were saying that the

712
00:57:36.159 --> 00:57:39.559
you're you're it, say it was
real, say it was real. And

713
00:57:40.039 --> 00:57:45.960
some entity from the other side finds
a way, he cracks the Omega code

714
00:57:45.239 --> 00:57:51.280
and finds a way to put his
mark on this physical realm. Okay,

715
00:57:51.559 --> 00:57:55.800
floor doodles, that's the best they
can do. Floor doodles. Well,

716
00:57:57.119 --> 00:58:00.519
random faces, think about it?
I mean, and I think I think

717
00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:05.239
you and I have talked about this
on the Old uniform Snowflakes podcast. Oh

718
00:58:05.280 --> 00:58:07.000
I've heard of that podcast. We
used to plug it all the time when

719
00:58:07.000 --> 00:58:14.199
it was a podcast, let it
go. But the I think we talked

720
00:58:14.239 --> 00:58:16.400
about this that that it seems like
whenever ghosts seemed to appear, they do

721
00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:21.719
the most mundane, Like they appear
on the floors. They move something here,

722
00:58:21.800 --> 00:58:24.079
they don't you know, they're not
attacking, they're not scaring. This

723
00:58:24.159 --> 00:58:27.960
lady was happy to have them there, and she wanted to take them with

724
00:58:28.039 --> 00:58:30.760
her to Heaven. I mean,
she wasn't scared. She enjoyed their company

725
00:58:30.840 --> 00:58:37.639
exactly like all these hoaxes never seemed
to pose an immediate life threatening danger.

726
00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:43.320
It's always the most mundane crap they
do to show their presence. Yeah,

727
00:58:43.360 --> 00:58:45.760
and that's what we're used to now. I feel like that's the if they

728
00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:47.679
did anything else, that's when we
be shocked. If if any of these

729
00:58:47.719 --> 00:58:52.280
things were real, we'd see them
on the news, Brian Williams will be

730
00:58:52.280 --> 00:58:57.840
talking about them, not some crappy
show on YouTube or Discovery Channel where at

731
00:58:57.840 --> 00:59:00.320
the end of it they had to
say, well, we don't know what

732
00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:07.480
really happened, but we'll totally speculate
the shot of that. That's what we've

733
00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:09.079
come to be used to, is
that is that is that if if that's

734
00:59:09.159 --> 00:59:14.320
if, if it is all real, that they're just really that the Nether

735
00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:21.400
Beings and all those great Omega code
cracker people, yeah, crackers, white

736
00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:27.760
people. Yeah, there's no reason
to get racially antagonistic about it. But

737
00:59:27.840 --> 00:59:31.119
Okay, I feel like that's that's
what we we just become used to I

738
00:59:31.159 --> 00:59:40.320
mean, if they did anything else
Charlton from my Cold Dead Omega Code,

739
00:59:40.599 --> 00:59:45.000
I guess that's make a man.
That's not quite the same thing I drew

740
00:59:45.079 --> 00:59:50.719
these feast. But can you guys
think of any hoax where if someone someone

741
00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:54.519
their lives were in danger, somebody
died from the hoax, not so much

742
00:59:54.880 --> 01:00:00.280
them putting themselves in danger too to
do it. Like like, so heard

743
01:00:00.280 --> 01:00:06.800
of a cow that this these uh
college kids wanted to play a prank and

744
01:00:06.840 --> 01:00:12.159
they led the mascot cow like up
the bell tower or something. And apparently

745
01:00:12.519 --> 01:00:16.119
cows can't go down steps, correct, And so I don't know if the

746
01:00:16.159 --> 01:00:22.000
cow had to be killed or Jesus
it was. It didn't a hoax,

747
01:00:22.039 --> 01:00:24.519
that's just being jerks. Well,
also, like who who that's kind of

748
01:00:24.519 --> 01:00:30.159
a unique problem. No one knows
about cows and stairs. That's those kids

749
01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:35.320
do now, great fuck just did
for the rest of their lives. Souka

750
01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:39.039
did you hear him? I've led
a few cows upstairs in my life and

751
01:00:39.079 --> 01:00:42.880
had to put a bolt behind their
neck. Just put that out there,

752
01:00:42.920 --> 01:00:49.679
just like that guy from No Country
for Old Man Negro Hack. I mean,

753
01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:54.480
I'm really bad at thinking of anything
at any time, but like an

754
01:00:54.480 --> 01:01:00.239
example of a hoax just in general. Besides like the Orson Wells, which

755
01:01:00.239 --> 01:01:02.239
I don't even know. If I
can personally considered that a hope, I

756
01:01:02.280 --> 01:01:05.360
would, I've got one for you. I can say that like that,

757
01:01:05.440 --> 01:01:08.280
I would consider that the a huge
hoax. In fact, in fact,

758
01:01:08.280 --> 01:01:10.880
I think the ultimate hoax. I
think it would be the ultimate hoax because

759
01:01:12.079 --> 01:01:16.199
it didn't involve anything of a of
a of a supernatural god being. It

760
01:01:16.280 --> 01:01:20.639
invokes something that we knew even less
than back then in those days, you

761
01:01:20.679 --> 01:01:23.159
know UFOs, where nowadays that people
say UFOs, we kind of scoff the

762
01:01:23.280 --> 01:01:28.079
day. Back then, it is
completely feasible that was they still had there

763
01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:30.239
were still canals on Mars then.
I believe that people still thought like,

764
01:01:30.280 --> 01:01:34.000
oh there was there was a thing
going on there. You know that that

765
01:01:34.039 --> 01:01:37.800
was the ultimate hoax, playing in
on on on an innocent type of ignorance.

766
01:01:37.880 --> 01:01:40.440
Nowadays, if you wanted to try
to pull off a hoax, it

767
01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:45.360
would be of you couldn't do it
because it would invoke so much. The

768
01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:49.559
aftermath I think would be so much
worse. Well, I do know I

769
01:01:49.599 --> 01:01:54.639
have a great example of a modern
day hoax that has real consequences for people.

770
01:01:55.039 --> 01:02:00.280
The ass clown who, for the
purposes of a tension and looking like

771
01:02:00.280 --> 01:02:07.320
you knew what he was talking about, falsified vaccine data and wrote a paper

772
01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:10.840
that said vaccines are linked to autism
and vaccines well with your kids' lives,

773
01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:16.320
which has been disproven one hundred times
over. It was a hoax, he

774
01:02:16.559 --> 01:02:21.840
false, he falsified his data.
It was garbage. But there are still

775
01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:25.239
kids. There are still moms thinking
they're doing the right thing, not vaccinating

776
01:02:25.239 --> 01:02:30.679
their kids. There This is his
huge ramifications because this guy wanted attention.

777
01:02:31.079 --> 01:02:37.039
And there are a whole lot of
people who who aren't scientifically literate. And

778
01:02:37.039 --> 01:02:39.960
I'm not saying they're literally I mean
they don't. They don't understand the science

779
01:02:40.079 --> 01:02:44.480
of how a vaccine works. It
just they are like, well, I

780
01:02:44.519 --> 01:02:46.639
don't like the sound of that.
That doesn't sound right. And people are

781
01:02:46.639 --> 01:02:52.159
not vaccinating their children. They're they're
creating huge, huge problems because of this

782
01:02:52.199 --> 01:02:59.719
one guy's hoax, not knowing about
was it actually a hoax or was it

783
01:02:59.800 --> 01:03:01.599
some he was trying to put forth
information to say this is what I think,

784
01:03:01.599 --> 01:03:05.360
and they're forming to do whatever I
can do to make people believe it,

785
01:03:05.679 --> 01:03:07.360
Well, what's the difference. There's
a big difference in my head because

786
01:03:07.400 --> 01:03:10.199
to me, like a hoax of
someone who's saying to me a hoax is

787
01:03:10.239 --> 01:03:15.000
war the world saying this is truly
not the case at all. Haha,

788
01:03:15.039 --> 01:03:19.079
we're having some fun. Whereas what
this guy, what you're talking about,

789
01:03:19.159 --> 01:03:24.039
is someone who is putting lives in
danger and opinions and pitting people against each

790
01:03:24.079 --> 01:03:30.400
other for your own benefit because you
just can't accept the truth because then it's

791
01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:31.719
applicable to a lot of other things, which you know, you can go

792
01:03:31.760 --> 01:03:37.400
into the political realm of then there's
all sorts of hoax happening saying that you

793
01:03:37.440 --> 01:03:40.679
know, this country is so further
is so far worse off than we actually

794
01:03:40.679 --> 01:03:45.880
are. You know. That's that's
where I'm trying to the point of his

795
01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:47.519
Yeah, the point of what he
was going for. I don't know if

796
01:03:47.519 --> 01:03:52.440
it was I don't know what his
exact motives were. I don't know if

797
01:03:52.440 --> 01:03:57.239
it was simply just the attention of
publishing a paper that he knew would make

798
01:03:57.280 --> 01:04:01.480
waves, or if he had this
pre existing belief and decided, well,

799
01:04:01.559 --> 01:04:05.079
I'm going to do some quote unquote
science. But when the numbers don't come

800
01:04:05.119 --> 01:04:08.159
back the way I want. I'm
going to fill them in. However,

801
01:04:08.199 --> 01:04:13.000
I feel like anyway to quote unquote
prove that I was right at the beginning.

802
01:04:13.280 --> 01:04:15.320
Yeah, I mean, either way
it transcends hoax to me though,

803
01:04:15.400 --> 01:04:20.360
But yeah, either way it's it's
it's you're telling a deliberate lie and you're

804
01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:25.760
gonna say that it's the truth in
the hopes of seeing its influence on people.

805
01:04:26.679 --> 01:04:29.159
I see where Yeah, I agree, I agree with that. To

806
01:04:29.239 --> 01:04:30.559
me, I guess in my head, I want to believe that a hoax

807
01:04:30.599 --> 01:04:35.039
has a little bit more of a
of a silly silly like like today,

808
01:04:35.079 --> 01:04:40.440
Like today there was a Macaulay Culkin
saw And so to me, like what

809
01:04:40.519 --> 01:04:44.559
you're talking about, like hoax doesn't
even beginning, Like to me, hoax

810
01:04:44.639 --> 01:04:47.000
is funny, like hoax, hoax
makes you think, oh I fell for

811
01:04:47.079 --> 01:04:50.760
it. Yeah, Whereas what you're
talking about is is borderline criminal, like

812
01:04:50.840 --> 01:04:57.559
that guy should be put up for
some charges for really violent all sorts of

813
01:04:57.679 --> 01:05:02.000
laws and ethics to put forth an
idea that he really couldn't deal with being

814
01:05:02.039 --> 01:05:05.599
wrong about and therefore influencing a lot
of influencing a lot of people who are

815
01:05:05.639 --> 01:05:13.239
influential Jenna McCarthy to put forth these
ideas, influence that published books and got

816
01:05:13.280 --> 01:05:16.760
talks and got attention, and people
defended her because she said, you're wrong.

817
01:05:16.840 --> 01:05:20.400
I'm right, You're just being reactionary
and I'm actually doing the science,

818
01:05:20.440 --> 01:05:26.400
you know, like it like the
aftermath of what he created is criminal?

819
01:05:26.639 --> 01:05:30.320
You true? Yeah? Absolutely so
to me, like a hoax, Like

820
01:05:30.360 --> 01:05:32.400
he didn't get he didn't get the
pleasure of being a hoax. So what

821
01:05:32.480 --> 01:05:35.320
if there's a term for that though, right, being a dick? Yeah?

822
01:05:38.079 --> 01:05:41.400
Yeah? What about I just can't
think of What about if you know,

823
01:05:41.679 --> 01:05:45.119
we sit down and we record a
new millennium War of the world and

824
01:05:45.199 --> 01:05:49.719
people believe it, and people think
that there are aliens marching through the streets

825
01:05:49.719 --> 01:05:53.960
of Chicago. And some guy was
like, well, I'm not going to

826
01:05:54.039 --> 01:05:57.199
let those aliens take my family.
And as much as I don't want to,

827
01:05:57.679 --> 01:06:00.679
I'm gonna put my whole family down. Have we done there? And

828
01:06:01.039 --> 01:06:04.480
in case anyone was considering putting their
family down, we're not really going to

829
01:06:04.559 --> 01:06:10.559
have a band called Guns and Rosebuds. And I can understand why you would

830
01:06:10.559 --> 01:06:14.119
think you have to wait what they
might get more putting putting their families down

831
01:06:14.199 --> 01:06:18.280
if we don't release it out.
I think that, I think that I

832
01:06:18.280 --> 01:06:20.320
guess what I want to do is
I want to go back to the idea

833
01:06:20.320 --> 01:06:23.440
of war of the world. If
we're the world, it's okay. So

834
01:06:23.519 --> 01:06:25.960
let's say you have we're the worlds
and they did the whole, the whole

835
01:06:25.960 --> 01:06:29.039
program, and then there was one
family who said, we won't do this,

836
01:06:29.079 --> 01:06:33.760
and we're going to all take poison
the unintended consequences of that hoax,

837
01:06:34.519 --> 01:06:42.719
not forgiving the the action or the
aftermath. There's a difference to me because

838
01:06:42.800 --> 01:06:45.880
what we would be doing just to
to do a new millennial War of the

839
01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:49.239
worlds. We have a little bit
of fun, be very very detailed about

840
01:06:49.239 --> 01:06:51.920
it, but our intent was never
to hurt anybody. Whereas when you're saying

841
01:06:51.920 --> 01:06:59.280
I'm falsifying medical documents and research,
that's a whole different ball game. To

842
01:06:59.360 --> 01:07:02.280
me. I'm trying to convince people
that it's okay to chug a bottle of

843
01:07:02.280 --> 01:07:06.440
cold medicine, you know, like
I'm I'm willfully endangering people. Yeah,

844
01:07:06.519 --> 01:07:10.800
okay, And I think I think
then you accept, because then you accept,

845
01:07:11.159 --> 01:07:14.679
because then you accept the consequence.
As you say, if I tell

846
01:07:14.719 --> 01:07:17.880
you that you know the way you
know, if you're cold mess let's just

847
01:07:17.960 --> 01:07:20.440
use that. What I'm what I'm
telling you here is that you need to

848
01:07:20.519 --> 01:07:25.119
chug cold medicine because this will help
you. So therefore the onus is on

849
01:07:25.199 --> 01:07:27.719
me because I, as an expert, I've been telling you to do this,

850
01:07:28.119 --> 01:07:30.679
or as we say, you know, the only way to defeat these

851
01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:34.280
aliens is to chug cold medicine.
Then if people chuck cold medicine, that's

852
01:07:34.760 --> 01:07:38.559
that's not on us, right.
I think any court of law would say

853
01:07:38.559 --> 01:07:44.199
like this, there's no aliens,
does George? No? I mean that

854
01:07:45.280 --> 01:07:48.559
is are you saying that's not on
us? Because it's all a tongue in

855
01:07:48.639 --> 01:07:50.679
cheek in the first place. Yeah, because it's a story, you know,

856
01:07:50.679 --> 01:07:54.920
if we're telling, if we're telling, what could be well, I

857
01:07:54.960 --> 01:07:59.159
guess what I'm looking at as like
the idea of defense defensively defensibly in court,

858
01:07:59.360 --> 01:08:01.000
as a story as what they did
in the War of the worlds.

859
01:08:01.960 --> 01:08:06.480
The only way to the only way
to defeat these is to defeat the aliens

860
01:08:06.559 --> 01:08:10.920
is to chuck cole messin. Because
in the cold medsin there's something that activates

861
01:08:11.559 --> 01:08:15.559
a field that keeps us from their
death rays. Sure, now that's far

862
01:08:15.679 --> 01:08:17.199
enough off where you say, like, okay, that that is, and

863
01:08:17.319 --> 01:08:20.600
especially in today's day age, like
yeah, of course that's a story whereas

864
01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:24.600
I say, I'm a doctor,
here are my credentials, drink this and

865
01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:28.560
you'll won't die, but you do
die. True. Yeah, you're absolutely

866
01:08:28.680 --> 01:08:31.159
right. And there's especially now there's
getting into a kind of a weird area

867
01:08:31.199 --> 01:08:35.039
for that, where there is precedents
for that. For example, Um,

868
01:08:35.159 --> 01:08:42.399
there's that current there's a million dollar
lawsuit over one line from American Hustle.

869
01:08:42.439 --> 01:08:45.920
Did you guys read this article?
Um, if you guys haven't seen it,

870
01:08:45.920 --> 01:08:50.079
it's the big ensemble piece with Jennifer
Lawrence. And was it the line

871
01:08:50.119 --> 01:08:53.640
from the review that said this is
a good movie because I will sue the

872
01:08:53.680 --> 01:08:57.399
shot out of those people. See. Uh, No, I saw the

873
01:08:57.439 --> 01:09:00.000
movie. I didn't dislike the movie. I was in love with the characters,

874
01:09:00.079 --> 01:09:03.439
but I don't care what they were
doing exactly like I didn't give The

875
01:09:03.439 --> 01:09:06.840
only character I care about in that
movie was Jeremy Renner's character, and without

876
01:09:06.880 --> 01:09:10.560
giving anything out, I just felt
a lot of emotion towards his character.

877
01:09:10.840 --> 01:09:14.920
Everybody else with the exception of Louis
c. K's character because when he when

878
01:09:14.960 --> 01:09:17.000
he gets his thing, You're like, this is great. But everything I'm

879
01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:19.399
like, I don't care about any
of these characters. And I think,

880
01:09:19.439 --> 01:09:23.439
because you have all these people,
American Hustle is not science fiction, so

881
01:09:23.479 --> 01:09:26.640
I don't think it. Um spoiler
rules are applicable. I think you can

882
01:09:26.680 --> 01:09:30.680
say whatever you want. Okay,
that's where I haven't seen it. I'm

883
01:09:30.680 --> 01:09:35.279
just looking after the people. Yeah, Painter Bob High, Painter Bob So

884
01:09:35.800 --> 01:09:39.880
to me, yeah, that movie
sucked out out loud. It was terrible.

885
01:09:40.199 --> 01:09:45.159
But there is a part in there
where Jennifer Lawrence's character um quotes something

886
01:09:45.279 --> 01:09:49.039
that's made up about microwaves and how
they they was so funny. Yeah,

887
01:09:49.039 --> 01:09:51.880
because and that's the thing that that
makes it so silly to me that there's

888
01:09:51.880 --> 01:09:56.239
a lawsuit, because that was her
character. She's this woman who just said

889
01:09:56.239 --> 01:09:59.560
whatever popped into her head, but
like committed to it, and it wouldn't

890
01:10:00.039 --> 01:10:02.760
you know, like she keeps saying, she she tells him, her her

891
01:10:02.840 --> 01:10:06.840
husband, that she did him a
giant favor by making the microwave explode.

892
01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:11.239
She probably saved everyone's life by starting
a kitchen fire, you know, like

893
01:10:11.800 --> 01:10:14.880
and yet there's a lawsuit about that. They called what they call they called

894
01:10:14.880 --> 01:10:18.000
a microwave science, and they they
call a microwaves science or the I mean,

895
01:10:18.039 --> 01:10:21.880
it's it's the same realm that when
you get served hot coffee and you

896
01:10:21.920 --> 01:10:27.359
spill it on yourself and you sue
them for serving you hot coffee. And

897
01:10:27.399 --> 01:10:30.399
I think the point of a clarification, I think the exact lawsuit about that

898
01:10:30.439 --> 01:10:34.359
movie is that they and I can
sort of see where this is coming from,

899
01:10:34.920 --> 01:10:38.800
is that they say, no,
I write an article by this guy

900
01:10:39.000 --> 01:10:42.439
who is a real person who did
this. That was his job, as

901
01:10:42.479 --> 01:10:45.680
he did this kind of science,
and he was to write articles about microwaves.

902
01:10:45.479 --> 01:10:49.000
But what she said and attributed to
him in the movie was totally fake.

903
01:10:49.279 --> 01:10:56.159
Yeah, so that's he's kind of
like on the guy who did that

904
01:10:56.279 --> 01:10:59.000
was like, well, no,
I never said that, but it's a

905
01:10:59.039 --> 01:11:01.279
work of fiction. And I don't
think anyone was like, you know,

906
01:11:01.800 --> 01:11:08.600
oh well because this one character in
American Hustle, yeah said this then,

907
01:11:09.079 --> 01:11:12.479
and I can't buy microwaves anymore.
It's all over the good Web ruined a

908
01:11:12.520 --> 01:11:15.359
man good Man's name. Because what
they're doing is they're say if they're suing

909
01:11:15.359 --> 01:11:16.960
for a million dollars. That means
that then they're they want to get they

910
01:11:17.000 --> 01:11:19.800
want to get like a hundred grand
in settlement, right, And it's it's

911
01:11:19.800 --> 01:11:27.960
like it's imagine, imagine every musician
who Jack Black talks about in high fidelity,

912
01:11:28.560 --> 01:11:30.399
going, oh, well, in
this movie he said, my music

913
01:11:30.439 --> 01:11:33.680
sucks ass, and so now I
need to sue, you know what I

914
01:11:33.680 --> 01:11:36.479
mean? Like, there's why and
why aren't people suing the government for all

915
01:11:36.479 --> 01:11:40.079
the things that people say about what
they're doing to people. It's like it's

916
01:11:40.199 --> 01:11:45.000
the pinnacle of ridiculous because of the
government can afford the top lawyer there was

917
01:11:45.199 --> 01:11:50.880
the judicial. Interesting thing about interest
anything about the coffee I don't know if

918
01:11:50.880 --> 01:11:55.560
you know the history of the McDonald's
coffee suing incident. I don't know,

919
01:11:55.680 --> 01:11:59.479
but I don't care. Okay,
but no, you can't tell us.

920
01:12:00.039 --> 01:12:02.000
Just find it interesting because people a
lot of people will use that as a

921
01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:06.199
as a as an example. What
had happened with that woman is that she

922
01:12:06.279 --> 01:12:10.279
had everything that we know is true
with regard to what had happened to her.

923
01:12:10.319 --> 01:12:14.920
She got hot coffee. Uh it
spilled in her lap, but she

924
01:12:15.439 --> 01:12:23.039
scalded degree burns in the crotch areal
area. And I'm not a doctors.

925
01:12:23.239 --> 01:12:27.439
Yeah she was. She had switches
her American rise. It's called a bucket

926
01:12:27.479 --> 01:12:33.039
funnel, and it would just designed
to focus liquid into genitals. Bucket funnel.

927
01:12:33.319 --> 01:12:39.680
Lots of people wear these things.
It's not unheard of. But she

928
01:12:39.720 --> 01:12:43.319
had. What she had done was
she went to she she had found that

929
01:12:43.399 --> 01:12:47.600
the coffee was like any degrees hotter
than more a normal coffee, like coffee

930
01:12:47.880 --> 01:12:57.560
that my genitals. Wait, she
found that the coffee was eighty degrees hot,

931
01:12:57.800 --> 01:13:00.239
like regular coffee that you drank.
I don't know. I don't drink

932
01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:03.039
coffee, but regular coffee is used
about one hundred and ten degrees from the

933
01:13:03.239 --> 01:13:09.520
Yeah, yeah, I mean because
that people drink at different temperatures. How

934
01:13:09.560 --> 01:13:14.079
do you measure that? But what
you do is you do your genitals into

935
01:13:14.119 --> 01:13:18.720
it. To my genitals don't fall
off? Oh my god, that's one

936
01:13:18.760 --> 01:13:24.600
of our useless superpowers. Oh I
have one for you, tester thermameter.

937
01:13:27.359 --> 01:13:35.600
But when you when years is better? All right? Sorry? So when

938
01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:39.880
you when you when you brew the
coffee to higher temperature, you can yield

939
01:13:39.960 --> 01:13:43.600
more cough from the bean. That's
what McDonald's and all the other fast food

940
01:13:43.600 --> 01:13:45.680
places to do because it saves money
on the bean. So you brew it,

941
01:13:45.880 --> 01:13:49.960
you brew it hotter. It's you
could be in the upper one hundred's

942
01:13:49.960 --> 01:13:54.680
closer to two hundred degrees. And
that's why they had they put the caution

943
01:13:54.800 --> 01:13:57.800
very hot as you would think,
what happeners you put it between her legs,

944
01:13:57.800 --> 01:14:00.640
it opened, it's spilled. They
found to be hotter. They've found

945
01:14:00.640 --> 01:14:01.920
that there were a lot of other
people that had happened too, so they

946
01:14:01.920 --> 01:14:04.880
did a class action lawsuit. So
the amount of money you see in the

947
01:14:04.960 --> 01:14:09.560
lawsuit with itself being for so much, yes, you can have your opinion

948
01:14:09.560 --> 01:14:13.279
on how you feel about the lawsuit
itself. But everyone likes to think like,

949
01:14:13.319 --> 01:14:15.680
oh, she's sued them for millions. Well, she actually sued them

950
01:14:15.760 --> 01:14:17.600
like seventy grand. That's not the
issue that I have. Yeah, it's

951
01:14:17.640 --> 01:14:21.000
the lawyers who went off a class
action totally. I guess. It's like

952
01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:23.560
when I when when I learned that, I was like, I was like,

953
01:14:23.600 --> 01:14:26.039
Oh, this lady just burned her
crotch and she wanted new skin.

954
01:14:26.279 --> 01:14:29.680
You know, It's like that's the
whole thing. And and and every time

955
01:14:29.680 --> 01:14:31.720
I hear someone say like like the
lady. I'm like, I'm like,

956
01:14:31.760 --> 01:14:36.039
she just burned her crotch. Don't
drink coffee in America, America, I

957
01:14:36.039 --> 01:14:42.760
mean, and no, no one
I did. The funnel funnel buckets with

958
01:14:42.880 --> 01:14:46.640
the funnel bucket industry was laid back
overnight. All those people working in the

959
01:14:46.640 --> 01:14:50.279
funnel bucket plants, they don't have
jobs. Where's their lawsuit? Where's their

960
01:14:50.319 --> 01:14:54.039
justice? I asked, what what? What? What a law firm are

961
01:14:54.079 --> 01:15:03.199
you with? That was racist?
I'm just an interested potty. Oh no,

962
01:15:03.439 --> 01:15:08.960
I honestly think that the majority of
people, if you asked them what

963
01:15:09.119 --> 01:15:14.640
their big beef about this would be, would be that someone received something knowing

964
01:15:14.720 --> 01:15:20.560
that it was a hot beverage and
then sued because it was hot. Yeah,

965
01:15:21.279 --> 01:15:33.279
what it boils down to it.
But they have that we have in

966
01:15:33.479 --> 01:15:40.000
California with Arabic beings, And you
know what, I don't decide to the

967
01:15:40.079 --> 01:15:48.119
highest temperature, much like the coffee
found in a magical hotel. This hotel,

968
01:15:49.680 --> 01:15:58.560
this magic magic cop swe served you
my clairvoyance, young girl speaks with

969
01:15:58.800 --> 01:16:05.399
Jesus of Jesus. Not too that
I wasn't there putting words in my mouth

970
01:16:08.399 --> 01:16:11.840
that put some chicken in my mouth. It's not on the script, and

971
01:16:11.840 --> 01:16:15.319
you're making me very angry. But
I should have asked me to direct this.

972
01:16:15.239 --> 01:16:18.479
I know how to work with the
difficult tactics. I just felt the

973
01:16:18.479 --> 01:16:21.520
collective eye roll of everyone going I
really thought they were done with that.

974
01:16:24.239 --> 01:16:28.119
No, no, no, And
I don't disagree with you either. I

975
01:16:28.119 --> 01:16:30.960
don't like I think it is.
I think there is a bit of ridiculousness.

976
01:16:30.119 --> 01:16:31.920
I just for some reason, whenever
I hear it, I was like,

977
01:16:31.960 --> 01:16:35.920
I always feel the need to like
clarify because I'm a big dumb log

978
01:16:35.920 --> 01:16:40.479
geek. So I'm like, yeah, I know information, and I you're

979
01:16:40.520 --> 01:16:43.920
a big dumb log geek. Yeah. I always I didn't feel the need

980
01:16:43.960 --> 01:16:46.560
for speed, but not like going
fast like drugs. You know they're making

981
01:16:46.800 --> 01:16:49.880
a seventh Fast and Furious yea.
And actually Paul Walker will be in the

982
01:16:49.880 --> 01:16:53.840
film. They filmed some things already
with him, and I saw the preview

983
01:16:53.920 --> 01:16:57.560
last night. They're gonna like Jedi
him is like blue Light. We'll say

984
01:16:57.640 --> 01:17:00.279
this. I've never seen a single
film of their until of the Need for

985
01:17:00.319 --> 01:17:03.560
Speed People until the sixth one.
And I gotta say I'm in. I

986
01:17:03.640 --> 01:17:10.199
really enjoyed it. I really enjoyed
it. It was so right. Yeah,

987
01:17:10.199 --> 01:17:13.199
it was where I think to believe
that the rock this time was like

988
01:17:13.279 --> 01:17:15.840
in the fifth one, I believe
he was against them, and in the

989
01:17:15.880 --> 01:17:20.439
sixth one like hey we need you. Classic yeah, classic trope they drove.

990
01:17:20.520 --> 01:17:24.319
Are they Tokyo Drifting? That was
like the third or fourth one.

991
01:17:24.319 --> 01:17:27.600
No, they're gonna make another Tokyo
Drift one. Once I got see yeah,

992
01:17:27.600 --> 01:17:28.920
once I got into I was like, I was like, I'm gonna

993
01:17:28.920 --> 01:17:30.199
look this step up to see what's
happening. It's kind of like Marvel.

994
01:17:30.239 --> 01:17:33.840
They've set out there, blow the
lid. Oh my god. I'm so

995
01:17:33.880 --> 01:17:39.479
excited that Infinity Gauntlet is happening.
I was. I was hoping from the

996
01:17:39.520 --> 01:17:42.800
moment they announced. I wonder if
could they not if they keep putting Thanos

997
01:17:42.840 --> 01:17:46.079
at the end of every well for
five years and then they're like and then

998
01:17:45.960 --> 01:17:50.680
and then drudging up more characters and
stuff. I'm super excited that there's a

999
01:17:50.720 --> 01:17:55.600
Doctor Strange movie. He's my second
favorite Marvel character that's been in a Cummerbatch.

1000
01:17:55.640 --> 01:17:59.119
Correct, that's what they said,
which is I'm actually I just I

1001
01:17:59.199 --> 01:18:02.199
lost my pants. I should say
I should say right now. Benedict Cumberbadge

1002
01:18:02.279 --> 01:18:05.399
is not Doctor Strange. He shall
play Doctor Strange. Please don't sue us.

1003
01:18:06.119 --> 01:18:12.520
Ah. Yeah, well, I'm
still like I'll believe it when I

1004
01:18:12.520 --> 01:18:15.680
see it, because there's so many
rumors floating out there right now, and

1005
01:18:15.840 --> 01:18:19.199
I wouldn't be surprised if they were
like, oh no, we never said

1006
01:18:19.279 --> 01:18:23.359
ben a Edict Cumberbatche dude, this
this site said it. Yeah, And

1007
01:18:23.680 --> 01:18:27.840
and we actually have Colin Farrell playing, And I'd be like, do you

1008
01:18:27.920 --> 01:18:36.239
guys, what movie was he bowls
eye in Daredevil? That was the worst.

1009
01:18:36.359 --> 01:18:41.760
You blame Colin Farrell, You blame
blame Colin No, I believe Yeah,

1010
01:18:41.840 --> 01:18:44.880
No, I'm with Flora on this
one. For the folks at home,

1011
01:18:44.880 --> 01:18:46.600
I just gotta, I just gotta. I just got like a very

1012
01:18:47.399 --> 01:18:53.800
very pointed finger at me saying I
blame Colin Farrell. Was the it was

1013
01:18:53.880 --> 01:18:59.199
the cobra head dress? Your bit? Yeah? No, Like, yeah,

1014
01:18:59.560 --> 01:19:01.520
Colin Earl in that movie, like
all he did is just gives crazy

1015
01:19:01.640 --> 01:19:05.600
face and then that's it. That's
his job, crazy face. He's just

1016
01:19:08.199 --> 01:19:13.119
and like flicking the nut into the
old woman's mouth or whatever. And for

1017
01:19:13.199 --> 01:19:15.560
this next scene, what I need
you to do is scream with your eyes,

1018
01:19:16.119 --> 01:19:20.680
but not in anger. Imagine you're
shouting gibberish, but just your eyes.

1019
01:19:24.359 --> 01:19:29.479
Imagine you've gone to Magic cop and
seen a commercial for Paul Mason.

1020
01:19:31.920 --> 01:19:39.560
Well, anyways, I still I
wish they would resolve this idiocy with Spider

1021
01:19:39.600 --> 01:19:44.840
Man and the X Men. Uh
so they could get everybody in everything.

1022
01:19:46.760 --> 01:19:49.880
But like, how do you make
really though, how do you make an

1023
01:19:49.920 --> 01:19:56.640
Infinity Gauntlet movie without having, you
know, every character in the Marvel universe.

1024
01:19:56.760 --> 01:20:01.439
Well that's actually its own answer.
When when someone sat down and said,

1025
01:20:02.119 --> 01:20:05.199
Okay, we want to make an
Infinity Gauntlet movie, one guy said,

1026
01:20:05.239 --> 01:20:11.279
okay, how do we do it
without every Marvel character? Because that's

1027
01:20:11.279 --> 01:20:13.840
the first thing you have to do, is like pair the list down.

1028
01:20:14.119 --> 01:20:16.640
There's there's no there's no arguing that. I mean, I don't know.

1029
01:20:16.880 --> 01:20:20.319
I think it would be hilarious if
they like pulled some really great Dick moves

1030
01:20:20.359 --> 01:20:25.359
and there was like a guy who
was just wearing like a bad Spider Man

1031
01:20:25.439 --> 01:20:29.560
outfit who runs through a scene and
some kids dressed up as the X Men.

1032
01:20:29.640 --> 01:20:32.359
Trick or treaty. They might do
that. Like I'm not saying it's

1033
01:20:32.439 --> 01:20:36.640
it's beyond the rail of possibility that
they can resolve this by whenever they're going

1034
01:20:36.680 --> 01:20:41.800
to release that film. I forget
the date that there wasn't like twenty seventeen.

1035
01:20:41.880 --> 01:20:45.319
I think it's something like that.
Yeah, because ever since they came

1036
01:20:45.359 --> 01:20:49.199
out with Avengers, I was like, they they're gonna they're gonna put this

1037
01:20:49.319 --> 01:20:54.960
together. They're gonna put They're gonna
forget all these contracts and stuff because it's

1038
01:20:55.000 --> 01:20:58.479
been so long anyway, like they're
gonna figure out a way to get all

1039
01:20:58.560 --> 01:21:02.920
the Marvel Universe together. But like
with each passing year, that obviously is

1040
01:21:02.960 --> 01:21:09.159
getting less and less um lokally likely. So well, may maybe they'll just

1041
01:21:09.279 --> 01:21:12.199
have a scene where, you know, all the the X Men are dead

1042
01:21:12.279 --> 01:21:15.920
and they just show like snippets where
you can infer that that's what. Yeah,

1043
01:21:15.960 --> 01:21:18.520
it's just watching an X Men movie. It'll just be a hand with

1044
01:21:18.720 --> 01:21:26.079
like the clock out. Yeah,
that's that's like creepy to think about.

1045
01:21:26.319 --> 01:21:30.840
Yeah, I just I just uh
I read the The Deadpool Kills the Marvel

1046
01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:36.239
Universe book. Yeah, that is
really good and really disturbing to read because

1047
01:21:36.319 --> 01:21:41.880
basically, the the concept is that
Deadpool becomes self aware of who he is

1048
01:21:41.960 --> 01:21:45.279
and like he always breaks the fourth
wall anyways, but he breaks up beyond

1049
01:21:45.359 --> 01:21:47.399
the fourth like he actually goes into
the fourth wall, who for whom he's

1050
01:21:47.399 --> 01:21:55.039
speaking to, and he starts killing
off Marvel characters, and the way he

1051
01:21:55.199 --> 01:21:58.960
does it is so disturbing at some
points, the way he kills Superman Spider

1052
01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:05.119
Man is really creepy. Spoilers.
Well, you know, I'm super excited

1053
01:22:05.279 --> 01:22:09.800
that they're but you know, what's
my favorite. I mean, for all

1054
01:22:09.840 --> 01:22:12.319
we know, Disney could just maybe
just walk up to so and be like,

1055
01:22:12.359 --> 01:22:14.760
hey, all right, we have
a checkbook here. That's what I

1056
01:22:14.840 --> 01:22:18.319
thought. You know, let's just
let's just handle this now. And you

1057
01:22:18.439 --> 01:22:24.079
know, Spider Man two is adorable, but we'll just take it all back

1058
01:22:24.159 --> 01:22:26.960
right now. Okay, So but
here put it like a put it from

1059
01:22:27.000 --> 01:22:31.239
this way, and to our listeners, welcome to the nerds corner. This

1060
01:22:31.479 --> 01:22:38.319
is a very special episode. I
know you didn't think yeah, But here's

1061
01:22:38.359 --> 01:22:42.520
the thing though, Um, right
now, Disney Marvel is doing an extraordinary

1062
01:22:42.600 --> 01:22:45.680
job with its movies. Like everyone's
into it. They they're doing a great

1063
01:22:45.760 --> 01:22:48.880
job with it, and a lot
of the other studios are really struggling to

1064
01:22:49.359 --> 01:22:55.199
make these characters do well. So
say they convince Sony to lend them Spider

1065
01:22:55.239 --> 01:22:59.920
Man, they convince Fox to lend
Wolverine and the X Men, and everyone

1066
01:23:00.479 --> 01:23:02.359
loses their mind, like, oh
my god, it was so great,

1067
01:23:02.439 --> 01:23:06.800
it was awesome. And then Sony
has to somehow sell a movie with their

1068
01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:14.039
shitty ass Spider Man and they're their
lame as balls X Men like that hurts

1069
01:23:14.119 --> 01:23:16.640
them. So for that reason alone, it's really not in their interest to

1070
01:23:17.640 --> 01:23:21.199
let Disney play with their toys.
Well, I'm just thinking that Disney just

1071
01:23:21.279 --> 01:23:25.079
comes in and says, we'll take
them all back. Now, we'll take

1072
01:23:25.119 --> 01:23:28.119
our toys back because Disney can do
it, I mean Disney. So if

1073
01:23:28.159 --> 01:23:31.039
our Disney has bought the Muppets,
Marvel and Star Wars, right, but

1074
01:23:31.640 --> 01:23:33.880
I mean yeah, I mean,
maybe they will just try to buy them

1075
01:23:33.920 --> 01:23:39.760
back out right. Having said that, that's those are huge money properties for

1076
01:23:40.039 --> 01:23:43.560
studios that are having a hard time
finding I mean, because everything sequels now,

1077
01:23:43.640 --> 01:23:46.239
you know, everything is reboots.
I mean, they're they were rebooting

1078
01:23:46.399 --> 01:23:50.560
Spider Man before that this current one's
done, you know, So that would

1079
01:23:50.840 --> 01:23:54.960
be a hell of a maneuver and
it would cost them a lot of money.

1080
01:23:55.000 --> 01:23:58.560
That would be speculative. They'd be
paying. You know, they would

1081
01:23:58.600 --> 01:24:02.840
functionally have to, they would have
to pay Sony for successful movies. Well

1082
01:24:02.880 --> 01:24:04.600
if they if they pay, I
mean, if you look at the if

1083
01:24:04.640 --> 01:24:06.880
you look at the mouth they paid
George Lucas for Star Wars, which was

1084
01:24:06.920 --> 01:24:12.000
four billion dollars. My guess is
that that Disney could say, will give

1085
01:24:12.039 --> 01:24:15.000
you two billion because you're not Star
Wars. Let No, they could make

1086
01:24:15.039 --> 01:24:20.560
a case. So but here's the
thing. Star Wars is a universe.

1087
01:24:21.319 --> 01:24:27.119
Spider Man's one guy. He's not
worth two billion dollars. Well that's not.

1088
01:24:27.479 --> 01:24:29.640
But that's what I'm saying, is
that is that Marvel could say,

1089
01:24:29.680 --> 01:24:34.439
we'll give you two billion. X
Men's pretty pretty They command a pretty hefty

1090
01:24:34.520 --> 01:24:38.159
chunk though, right X Men.
I can see like I could see them

1091
01:24:38.199 --> 01:24:43.800
negotiating with Fox because Fox has a
stable of characters. Yeah, and already

1092
01:24:44.199 --> 01:24:46.279
what was it, There was some
some interest. I mean, the legality

1093
01:24:46.319 --> 01:24:50.159
of how those things work is very
interesting. So, um, both Fox

1094
01:24:50.640 --> 01:25:00.560
and Disney have the Scarlet Witch and
r Quicksilver Quicksilver. However they treat them,

1095
01:25:00.600 --> 01:25:04.159
they have to. They Disney legally
has to give them slightly different powers,

1096
01:25:05.199 --> 01:25:10.359
whereas I believe the please I don't
know comic books very well, but

1097
01:25:10.520 --> 01:25:13.239
one of them, I think the
Scarlet, which is magic, she knows

1098
01:25:13.279 --> 01:25:16.279
how to do magic. But the
Disney version it's a woman who has the

1099
01:25:16.319 --> 01:25:24.039
ability to alter space and matter around
her, and that difference is how they

1100
01:25:24.119 --> 01:25:27.680
get to have her because it's some
of the legalities of these things. It's

1101
01:25:27.720 --> 01:25:31.880
not even about characters. It's about
specific descriptions of superpowers that are owned by

1102
01:25:32.520 --> 01:25:35.520
Fox. So I mean it gets
It's actually really fascinating reading. I've never

1103
01:25:35.640 --> 01:25:41.399
been a big comic books guy,
but the legality of how Marvel solds specifically

1104
01:25:41.439 --> 01:25:45.079
they sold these properties off in the
nineties is really interesting, and how companies

1105
01:25:45.159 --> 01:25:50.319
get around it. Yeah, well
hoaxes, right right, hoaxes folks is

1106
01:25:50.600 --> 01:25:55.720
yeah, he did it. So
to our knowledge, the three of us

1107
01:25:55.760 --> 01:26:00.560
sitting here right now, the bell
mass faces is a mystery. It's not

1108
01:26:00.680 --> 01:26:02.920
a mystery, it's a hoax.
It's well no, I I'm saying it's

1109
01:26:02.920 --> 01:26:08.239
a mystery that that hasn't been solved
because we haven't looked into it beyond that

1110
01:26:08.439 --> 01:26:12.159
that video. But nothing solved until
we solve it. I wouldn't be surprised

1111
01:26:12.199 --> 01:26:15.399
if once we finished recording and go
to my phone within thirty five seconds find

1112
01:26:15.399 --> 01:26:17.600
out that it was disproven. Sure, yeah, sure's true. They'll figure

1113
01:26:17.720 --> 01:26:21.199
something out or another. But um, but it may not be. I

1114
01:26:21.239 --> 01:26:26.279
would like to imagine there's one man
woman out there who's man their whole life

1115
01:26:26.399 --> 01:26:30.840
to disprove the Belmez Faces. Does
it have to be a hermaphrodite? Yes?

1116
01:26:31.319 --> 01:26:34.359
Okay, because this is this this, this one is so unique.

1117
01:26:35.039 --> 01:26:39.279
I've never taed them referred to as
man women. But okay, I believe

1118
01:26:39.279 --> 01:26:46.039
I said man or woman, But
well womenmen women that Marvel superhero. Just

1119
01:26:47.520 --> 01:26:54.479
it's the man, that's right,
Okay, mother man with it's terrible psychic

1120
01:26:54.600 --> 01:27:00.720
women. What a glorious full circle. Well that's that's bell Faces for you

1121
01:27:00.159 --> 01:27:04.279
on this Bullstone. Hope you hope
you'll like the ride Bullstone all over the

1122
01:27:04.319 --> 01:27:10.560
place. So mister Back, yeah, before before we we close the elegant

1123
01:27:10.640 --> 01:27:15.600
leather bound edition that is this chapter
of Bullstone, you are an extraordinarily hilarious

1124
01:27:15.640 --> 01:27:19.439
and successful comedian. But where can
other people prove that to themselves and their

1125
01:27:19.479 --> 01:27:23.159
loved ones. People can find me
on my website, Gregback dot com,

1126
01:27:23.640 --> 01:27:27.199
Greg Back dot com. You're good
enough. Yeah, look at Back dot

1127
01:27:27.359 --> 01:27:33.119
com. If you're looking for fun, you're looking for Greg back dot com.

1128
01:27:38.119 --> 01:27:40.199
That was it. It was just
like, okay, oh yeah,

1129
01:27:40.199 --> 01:27:44.000
you can go to my website greg
back dot com. That's Greg grgbacch dot

1130
01:27:44.079 --> 01:27:46.239
com. Uh. You can follow
me on the Twitter, I the letter

1131
01:27:46.319 --> 01:27:50.039
I Greg Back, or you find
me on Facebook. You can either like

1132
01:27:50.239 --> 01:27:55.960
my page or friend me. I'm
bant to be friends with you. Uh.

1133
01:27:56.319 --> 01:27:58.920
But and there's a full calendar on
their shows, all my shows coming

1134
01:27:59.000 --> 01:28:01.800
up in different projects I'm working on. So is greg box rocks dot com?

1135
01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:06.680
Is that available? No? What
about Greg Box greg back rocks Cox?

1136
01:28:08.039 --> 01:28:13.840
Is that is that also? No? Actually that was sold to a

1137
01:28:13.960 --> 01:28:20.800
lady in Spain. I had some
bills to pay and they wanted the U

1138
01:28:21.000 --> 01:28:26.399
R L. So yeah, that's
where you can find me. And in

1139
01:28:26.560 --> 01:28:29.399
Chicago a lot. So if I
remember, do you do you have any

1140
01:28:29.479 --> 01:28:35.600
currently booked gigs? I'm gonna be
actually at Cigars and Stripes on in Berwin

1141
01:28:35.880 --> 01:28:40.039
this coming Saturday. I don't know
when this show is coming out, this

1142
01:28:40.159 --> 01:28:43.199
episode is gonna be released, but
I gotta show. How about that?

1143
01:28:43.239 --> 01:28:45.479
All right? Cool? That's the
next one coming up out on my calendar

1144
01:28:45.479 --> 01:28:45.960
in front of me is I can't
think of at all. But yeah,

1145
01:28:46.000 --> 01:28:48.000
that's the next one coming up.
That's next Saturday. I have a friend

1146
01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:50.560
who plays a lot of music gigs. It's Cigars and Stripes. You should

1147
01:28:50.560 --> 01:28:53.600
come out and check it out.
My friend, my friend Jason Hellman,

1148
01:28:53.640 --> 01:28:58.079
and I will be uh performing It's
Cigars and Stripes with Milwaukee friends. And

1149
01:28:58.159 --> 01:29:00.399
that's the two of us are the
Milwaukee friends. So yeah, and uh,

1150
01:29:01.159 --> 01:29:02.960
I mean, if you're in the
Milwaukee area, we got anything's going

1151
01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:06.479
on. I mean I got a
sketch a sketch group now called Dynamo Kickstand,

1152
01:29:06.520 --> 01:29:10.439
which is we just did our first
show, which was absolutely wonderful.

1153
01:29:10.640 --> 01:29:13.760
We did it. We did a
comedie sports Milwaukee. Very cool. So

1154
01:29:13.920 --> 01:29:17.399
be doing another one soon for our
wisconsinite listeners. Yeah, all the trip

1155
01:29:17.560 --> 01:29:20.600
do you have? I like you
think I'm the only one. I'm the

1156
01:29:20.720 --> 01:29:25.920
only one. Unfortunately, I very
much doubt it, because what are we

1157
01:29:26.000 --> 01:29:28.920
at right now, Flora, Well, we're we're getting up there and in

1158
01:29:29.079 --> 01:29:32.960
downloads we're getting to a fairly good
amount. Yeah, I think he doesn't

1159
01:29:32.960 --> 01:29:35.439
want to jinx it, but I
think I think that's exactly it. But

1160
01:29:35.520 --> 01:29:39.800
we're doing pretty good you got fans
all over the world, which is very

1161
01:29:39.840 --> 01:29:43.079
im It's very cool. As someone
who started listening to this show long time

1162
01:29:43.119 --> 01:29:45.880
ago, it's been very fun to
watch you guys grow and grow and grow

1163
01:29:45.920 --> 01:29:49.319
and get new listeners. And dude, I think you just called this fat.

1164
01:29:51.199 --> 01:29:55.239
I think someone needs to needs to
really like think about their self worth

1165
01:29:55.359 --> 01:30:00.239
right now. Oh so yeah,
that's where you can find me awesome and

1166
01:30:00.359 --> 01:30:04.119
it's worth it. I've Flora and
I have both tasted the goods. Yeah

1167
01:30:04.439 --> 01:30:11.960
they're uncut, Pierre and uh and
I'm hooked. And then that's also thank

1168
01:30:11.960 --> 01:30:14.119
you for coming out to those shows. I really appreciate you guys having and

1169
01:30:14.239 --> 01:30:17.159
really appreciate you having me here.
When Flora said, hey, come do

1170
01:30:17.239 --> 01:30:20.680
the episode, I was like,
okay, please let it be an episode

1171
01:30:20.680 --> 01:30:25.239
with there me needs no research.
Yeah. When I when I first started

1172
01:30:25.239 --> 01:30:27.840
listening, like like I'd love to
do an episode with these guys, and

1173
01:30:27.880 --> 01:30:30.199
as I have to listen, like, I'd never want to do an episode

1174
01:30:30.199 --> 01:30:33.760
with these guys. I can't read
that much. Yeah, our literacy is

1175
01:30:33.800 --> 01:30:38.640
a sham. It's our hopes.
That is our hopes proven. Yeah,

1176
01:30:39.760 --> 01:30:45.880
we just debunked ourselves. Oh well, thank everyone. For listening to this

1177
01:30:45.279 --> 01:30:53.119
x x X executioner x EXCaliber.
Just pull the sword out of this stone.

1178
01:30:53.279 --> 01:30:57.439
Yea bullstone, there you go.
Thank you for listening everyone, And

1179
01:30:57.680 --> 01:31:00.439
I think we'll just have to wrap
it up. Laura headline, flint locks,

1180
01:31:00.960 --> 01:31:05.479
don't use them on your doors.
Greg back hangnails, science says,

1181
01:31:05.640 --> 01:31:10.520
just let them be old wives tales. They sound better from young single women.

1182
01:31:10.800 --> 01:31:12.159
Next week on bull Stone

