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comedian from Sweet Sweet Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Hello, Wow, Yeah,
I just creepy. What's wrong with me? If I just thought it was
sexy, I didn't notice the creepy? Nothing wrong with you at Also,
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Welcome aboard everyone. This is where we do the very least research and the
very most talking Yeah with Frans. One thing I realized that I don't know
we ever really explained the title Bullstone. I guess we didn't, did we
know? Uh? Like god, what a year and a half ago,
I was referring to something that was bullshit is Bullstein and you were like,
that's just Bullstone? Yeah? Stein Meanstone? Yeah, Stein Meanstone. So
there you go. That was that was season one? Yeah, because I
think I just posted the episode that you you said it on on YouTube,
so I was listening to it recently. It's like, oh yeah, so
yeah, that's that's where we get Bullstone. So it's just me making fun
of Dave, yeah, and and me trying to take it back. I'm
wearing it as a badge of honor. Hold me, Greg, I will
hold you in a day the week. Yeah, bull Bullstone is just something
that that is making fun of Dave or still that's where that comes from.
But Bullstone where we get to just talk to friends about stuff that they want
to talk about. Yeah, and we are we are held to no accountability
and not that we have journalistic integrity, but if we did, we wouldn't
have it now, it would be gone. Yeah, we'd take those journalistic
integrity briefs off, yeah and put on our our talking boxers, which are
our our assless Yeah. And they don't they don't they have that little they
don't have that little button on the front. So like accidents will happen.
Whoop. See I was just doing some jump in Jackson, Dear God,
just discussing a valid point and peek a boo, what's going on? Barn
doors open? I'll just mosey wowt silling. This episode could use a crotch
slapping. So Greg brought a fun subject. So Greg, tell us what
we've won. We've won A wonderful discussion about the bell Mez Faces, a
haunting out of the village of Belmez in Spain. I see Joanna guitar very
nice and uh it was I guess if you maybe like thirty forty years ago,
a lady named Maria was in her house and no no, no,
no no no no, no no no, and on the floor of her
house these faces would begin to appear and it was just unexplained, and uh,
they would they would form, and then they would go away and they
would come back and they would take different, different, different faces. Some
would be familiar, some wouldn't be, and they brought in scientists and it
was all starts of hubbub. And I think it's important to point out that
this is separate. This was at no point where the faces of Jesus or
Mary. These weren't like, no, they never Jesus and toast or in
a water stain thing. These were just faces. It's like Steve down the
streets on my floor. Yeah, I'll tell you though, Steve in the
shower. See what we do. Obviously, for Bullstone we say this ten
thousand times, so you know, so you get it. There's one more
time for you. We don't do research for this, but if a guest
has something they want to talk about and and Dave and I aren't familiar with
it, will watch a video they suggest to familiarize ourselves with it. We
did it for fair Point. We did it for the Bell Mez faces.
So we did watch a YouTube video. Don't There's there's no court in the
world that could consider that research. There's just there's just no way. Seven
and a half minutes of pure nothing. Yeah. So one thing that these
faces remind me of is that church that where the woman accidentally scrubbed Jesus's face
off and then repainted it. Oh yeah, yeah, it is. You're
right. It does have a certain Jenna say, how to paint. They're
very uh now now they're they're in the stone. It's basically two colors.
It's it's like a dark of the stone and then the stone color itself.
If you were to do this yourself, it would look like you use charcoal.
Yep. Yeah, it's exactly what it looks like. It looks like
charcoal. And so these faces look a lot of them have very round faces,
very distinct lines where you know, it's it's like taking taking a piece
of paper and just drawing a face, drawing the eyes in, drawing almost
with the thing down the middle, to give you symmetry of where everything goes,
right, Yeah, there's some of that. And there's also like,
at least in what I saw on the video, like a lot of either
stylized mustaches or everyone had screaming double nostril nosebleeds yeah well or or yeah the
or like the Bruce Willis lines going down, oh yeah, down the face
there. Why did you have to show up on an itching Is stone,
John Gould? It you could have been in the sixteen chapter, Johnny boy,
you had to show up on a Spanish ladies floor. That's why,
John McLean. If you case anybody look beer, don't worry. I yeah,
Madre one thumb. Fun thing that I enjoyed about the videos, apparently
this village is in central Spain because it's not Bell Mez, it's bell Math
barth accent with employed throughout the production of the video, and I thought it
was delicious. I'll tell you what I've been to Southern Spain, alright,
alright, no more stories, no more stories, all right. I always
wondered why you always had like an expertly made picture of San Gria laying around,
sorry and a sword, and you don't share from I'm been to Spain.
I'm David Flora. I'm international traveler. There was a point I was
gonna make, but now I'm just an a because David Flora with his international
code of Patches, that man's an international mystery stories and war stories? Why
were you in the Southern I don't have a tell us. You tell us
your story. Don't have a point, don't have a point. I like
that story. These these faces. One other weird thing about them was they
would show up when Maria was around, and then they fade and disappear when
she wasn't right, they would also they would also show up when I did.
They say they would show up when she was upset. They said that
when she showed strong emotion. The the hard hitting video said that when she
showed emotion she was upset or depressed, they would show up. I wish
that the hard hitting video showed that, because every time I saw her,
she just looked like she was cart from Stone sitting in a barkle lounge.
Right. Well, well, she looked like ed Asner. I mean,
I mean a sexy ed Asner. We don't get me wrong. I would
not kick her out of bed Free and Crackers. Obviously, we haven't looked
up the information to find out how or whether or not they have been debunked.
I have a theory about how I would do that. If I had
to fake that, if I had to fake that funk on a nasty dunk.
Well, let's save it for fine. Let's talk about from South of
Spain some more. Then, WHOA, We've been a whole new point of
Bullstone had the jealousy chapter. That's right, I've never been to Europe.
And it makes me crazy with jealousy. What was never shown in the video
or I don't think there maybe video of although there could be, we didn't
look at it anymore. There isn't a video of these happening, these showing
up and fading and blah blah blah. There's plenty of pictures of the faces,
plenty of people saying this is what happened. But I never saw any
video. And they have plenty of video of the woman and the you know,
the people that have come in to look at the stuff. Why didn't
somebody just stick around and say, let me just videotape this. And I
again, I mean, this is why this is perfect. I mean,
did they experts came in and like tested, they took samples and everything came
back nothings. It just they had the paranormal photographer guy hold the thing down
and take pictures and that was I mean, that was basically about it.
Oh okay, So no scientists and no experts, Oh no, oh no,
they had scientists come in and they could and the and the and the
and the word was they couldn't explain it. Yeah, George Sukolo, sound
it is such a thing even possible. Yes it is. Oh, I
know how that much pains you? Yeah every time. Now. One other
thing that that they brought up in the video was that they replaced the floor
and they and they still showed up yep, which you know, that's that's
an interesting detail. Charcoal give me bought at any time. It's extraordinarily affordable.
Yeah, and what else did they say? They said that, Oh,
yeah, it was built on an ancient burial, yes or not.
Maybe maybe not ancient, but at least like a graveyard. The house was
built on an old graveyard. Really so, and right under the I guess
the first face that showed up was human remains m yep, so you know,
kukie. Yeah, it sounds sounds like a nice ghost story, better
than the ones we read. Well the one that The other thing too,
is that when they said when she died, the face has never appeared again
in that house, they started appearing in the home that she was born in.
She died, she's dead, but ten years now, Yeah, she
did, she did, She told Dan, Yeah, to heaven. She
ran a foul of some It was a black jack circuit or baccar rot ring.
They were fixing games in Monaco. And she was on the lamb for
a few years, but they caught her, they killed her. Excuse me,
it's Spain. I believe that would be negro One. You're right,
You're right, Jan, it is probably not Jack and Sam. Sorry yack
yah yack hack negro hack hack. And I don't mean what do they say?
Are you baccar rotted all over the place? Up? You are disgusting
cleanness? Do you take you when your faces out of my poddlar? So?
Yeah, so these things I mean, according to the video, are
unexplained, I guess. I mean, I'll look him up after this see
what what's been done about it. But I want the fun of BULLI yeah,
I'm not going to leave. I'm gonna wallow in my sweet sweet ignorant.
You're gonna tell everybody how mysterious and haunted they are from now on wallow
and you're ignorance and just make speculations after that, do you know? But
Greg, Yeah, they said that. They said that the in recent years
scientists had come around more towards the time as she had died, like around
the closer when she had died, and they really couldn't find any explanation to
say that yes, this basically the science had debunked it and it was just
a really unimportant haunting, if you will, Like they didn't really take like
when like when the video the video we saw is old and back in those
days, you know, it's it's anything that goes bump in the night gets
a piece, like they'll go, they'll go and and and do some coverage
on it. But now I think that the scientists would just really like,
this is this there's nothing here, this is any anything that arises is completely
explainable, any sort of scientific patterns. I did not do a lot of
research, sure, sure did. Have you ever been to Spain? No?
Have you been to Europe? Yes? Damn, hey, Stecco,
have you been to the south of the Earth. There's nothing to be jealous
about it about Antarctica. It's white, white as far as the eye can
see. I guess I just don't see it like you do, man,
I see it is an accomplishment. Whatever, man, whatever, don't feel
proud of yourself. I don't know why I go southern over time. But
you know, fair enough we might be going to Europe next year. We
should try and coordinate a pub crawl around Merry Old England maybe Oireland. Oh
absolutely, because if we could do like UK British Isles mysteries live. Oh
yeah. First of all, if you think we were drunk for at Saint
Patrick's Day, you were right. Yeah, you're right, You're right.
God, I listened to that the other day. That was wow. How
I haven't I haven't really listened to that. I should, It's wonderful.
But yeah, maybe we'll crawl around the British aisles, collecting some stories from
people and having some fun. And the thing that the thing for me that's
interesting about this is and Seco you brought this up, said there was no
holy nature. Yeah. I think that's why no one really cares. You
know, when someone cuts the face of Jesus into an orange, people freak
out. When they, you know, anything that has to do with a
rosary and a piece of toast, people go nuts. But this is just
some lady who's has faces appearing. It's it's a it's a it's a local
legend. It's oh, it's cute. You know. That's a good point.
But I never heard of it until you know, a few weeks ago,
until I was allowed in the High Players the high Rollers room, in
Monaco, where they played Negro, the Monaco baccarat, famed for its ability
to lose money. I too have played a game, yeah in America called
twenty one, and like the finest parlor games of Monaco, it fermented in
the blood of losers. All right, well you know what, let's you
you wanted to talk about what you think, what you think it is,
Let's go on and just do it. Okay, you know what I if
I to take that, um, I would do a little um mycology research,
I would look into uh, mushrooms. No, but I would look
into mildew spores and I would see what is the best medium for them to
grow on, what is the the best food. I would then suspend that
in a clear water solution and painted onto a support as surface like a stone,
and then just let that shit happen. Boom debunked. All I'm saying
is I've got a filthy fucking bathroom, and that's how I'd do it.
Yeah. I was thinking because in the video they say there's no chemicals that
were determined to be present and things like that. It seems as though it's
almost like one of those Revolutionary War secret letters that they'd stand where they lemon
juice or urine, right, Yeah, they would draw it out in something
that was only that would only show it in a certain in the presence of
like maybe heat or you know. You could even just take some mildew,
mix it up in a large volume of water until it's not dark anymore,
and paint with that and then it would refill in real big on the mildew.
I'm telling you that's my go too. I'm gonna, you know what,
I'm gonna start haunting people with mildew, like because you could, you
could like draw messages and really mess with people's lives that like slowly showed up.
And you know that. And this is another thing about the whole the
situation is that no one was scared, no one was terrified. She really
just liked them. She wanted, she said, when she died, she
wanted to take them with her. Yeah, you know it was. It
was really just the most boring roommate situation ever when it comes to a haunting.
And like I think either of my faces as she said that, they
when when they appeared, they and you moved around the room, they looked
at you, they followed you. But I mean Lisa does that. Yeah
right, they say that with They say that about a lot of things.
Do you think that she did it herself? I do? Yeah, Yeah,
it's crazy old lady she is. The fact that she said she wanted
to take them with her shows that she was an old show. She wasn't
old. She was she was alone and she wanted company and she wanted people
around. I mean, there's nothing wrong with that. And she didn't hurt
anyone honestly, Like people like followed her as a religion. I did you
know if that was her doing then she did it? Yeah, I don't
know. I didn't say if she you know, had a family, you're
married or anything. And she didn't like set up the pan nickel to come
see the crazy faces of my house. Yeah, so that's true. I
don't know, is if even if it's a hoax, she's like, yeah,
that's just the thing. I look out and once and once she did
die and the faces start in, the faces moved away. It's not like
people like cared anymore. They're like, oh, they're they're just down the
street. Now we're good. Now. They said they showed up at her
the home of her birth. Did Yeah, did you get the sense that
they stayed around there or just did it once. From from what I heard
them saying the video, it just seems like it was it was more or
less just a ps to the whole story, you know, yeah, like
a like a way to tie it up, to say, because you know
she's she has died, that's it. Thought she was doing it. Yeah,
yeah, exactly, like like well just in case, it's just so
you think the story hasn't ended. Yeah, yeah, they moved to a
smaller house down the road. How I'm saying is if I was doing that
and I knew I was gonna die, go paint you some spores to an
area, then die, that picture will emerge weeks after your demands, the
gift that keeps on giving sporeolatically get some black mole going in there. People
really notice. They said at one point they thought it might be a local
artist in the town. I guess the town had one. Oh yeah,
yeah they did have the artist, but who are you? I am the
artist. But they were also like, but this is clearly not his work.
Yeah it's that good. Yeah, And also like you can't explain how
they would appear and disappear, you know, from if if somebody were sneaking
it at night, if they were showing up when he got up in the
morning, that's one thing. But if they're appearing and disappearing, I think
the sport I mean, if she if she went that deep the spores and
mildew, I mean, that's an interest because because you can easily wipe away
from charcoal, you can easily wipe away any sort of foreign object you paint
on there. But you know, based on what you're saying, it seems
like that would get into the actual material and you can just wipe it away
and it would just eventually fade and you're like, oh, they're gone,
they'll be back soon, and then you know, in two weeks they're back,
you know. Uh. Also, I mean maybe it was the local
artist, because it's not if if Pablo Picasso was like, Okay, it's
time to run a little scam here, it's time to do some stuff,
but I'm going to make sure to do it perfectly in my signature style.
I don't think they'll put the pieces together. No, like Pablo Picasso started
a whole movement, or at least it was like one of the four runners
of it. But I'm saying that, like eery, artist has a specific
style, and if you were looking to to to participate in a hoax,
would you make a point of doing what you normally right? This this face
is missing an ear right the only the only way that you could say,
rule him out, as if these faces were like really detailed and really well
done, and the town's artists they're like, no, this guy just isn't
nearly this good. No, he's not capable of doing this. He does
not have this kind of I wouldn't say the word hack, but I wouldn't
also say the word good. H That was it was interesting. During the
video they say there's familiarity of the face, and what I think the voice
is saying is that it looks like people in the town. But when they
said familiar, actually one of them looks like it was inspired by da Vinci.
Like the drawing of the face, it's it's a profile, it's got
a it's got a it's got a very Leonardo da Vinci sketch influence to what
it looks like. Where's the other ones are straightforward and very uh angular,
whereas this was like a little more flowy, like it reminded me of of
a Da Vinci self portrait. I can really crap da Vinci self portrait.
Okay, so then let me ask you this, Um, I've I've come
out with my my plan, your your mild my mild plan, which is
a fucking great plan which will kill ell everyone in Bellmas in like six months
right right too? I mean real artist provocative and sometimes it provokes lungs to
fill with fluid. Uh, Greg, how would you manage this hoax?
I think I'd probably would be more like the them bringing the artist in it
like or like it maybe. Okay, so like in my head, like
we're talking about the the the idea that she was lonely. Maybe you you
go, you go into her house when she's sleeping or when she's not there,
and you do it for her as maybe a way of saying, you
know, giving her some attention. You know, if I'm her, uh,
I probably just draw them and and run out of the door and be
like the faces, the faces. And so while you're while you're in this
woman's home at three in the morning, after you've broken and entered, yeah,
and you're you're working on this, you're just gonna go. She's a
little less lonely nature words right out of my mouth, flora. Um.
I think I would try and figure out a system to that that is activated
by body heat whoa, which means that you know, that would make sense
for when they were near it, it would appear, and then when they
went away from it, it would it would disappear. How I would do
that, Fuck, I don't know. I guess you'll just have to go
back to the South of Spain to find out what I did there right back.
Yeah, all right, I'm gonna drink more as well. We all
should be drinking more because I mean, like people who set up hoaxes,
you know, they do it for attention. I mean, there are people
that I think that have historically tried to then make some money off set hoax
But I think that I don't think that's too crazy. I think it's safe
to say the primary reason for an old fashioned hoaxing is just attention. Yeah,
to get people your point, Yeah, But my point is this,
like it just seems like such a bad way of doing it. I mean,
some of these hoaxes are extraordinary elaborate, and they take a lifetime of
dedication to a lie. Couldn't you have just taken all of that time and
effort and done something actually significant. Well, I could I see, I
see where you're coming from. But I think if you may, if you
look at from a different point of view, or is you know, if
she would have, if she would have ran out of the house said the
face of Jesus on my floor, she would have gotten far more attention.
Maybe her point wasn't to get that much attention. Maybe she just wanted enough
attention from the village, you know, because like when you when you get
into a hoax, depending on it, Like, if you're just going for
attention, you're going for attention once you get it. But if if you
make you can make a mistake that gets you way too much attention, and
then you're in the spotlight, and you know one day you're gonna get found
out, you know, and then like I can see it, I can
see it from both sides. What if what if it wasn't What if she
never planned to go this way? What if what if she was cleaning her
floor one day and just noticed that the pattern that she cleaned happened to kind
of look like a face, and she thought, oh, that's funny,
So she left it and then someone walked in and was like, what is
this? And then she's like, well, it's kind of weird that I
made a face on the floor. I don't know what happened, you know,
Like, could I just away from her? Yeah, no, don't
tell anybody, don't don't tell anybody. Oh this is gonna be now I'm
gonna have to clean more. Yeah, I just I just think it takes
so much, so much time and effort to maintain a hoax. And there's
so many famous hoaxes like the the those British pixies or the pictures of the
oh the fairy fairy pictures, and then I mean and they're just really oh
yeah those are terrible, ye, terrible, but like but but it wasn't
until they were like old ladies, these little girls were like oh yeah that
was total bullshit. But yeah, well but that but that. But I
think I go back to my point is I think maybe could you could you
say that she may have pulled off the perfect hoax then because it got her
attention, but not too much, and never no one really like like when
the debunking fully happens happened, no one's also saying you ruin my life with
this, Yeah, I guess. I mean it was a it is a
very low stakes sort of thing. It's not like she was investing hundreds of
hours in it, you know. She she just had had these things or
had them made or something like that, and you know, and it doesn't
have to be a hoax. I just personally think it is. That's the
way I'm going that. I mean, maybe it's just some completely crazy phenomenon
that well. I kind of thought the first time I saw it, as
it was going through and they were talking about it, I thought, well,
maybe this was something that was in the stone before, either before she
moved in or before the stone was laid in there or whatever. Maybe it
was you know, somebody had had done something to the stone, carved these
out drawn on it, whatever, But then some kind of atmospheric condition or
something in the actual house causes them to appear and disappear, almost like a
mold, almost like mildew. Maybe shut up, like it's all got a
mirror, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. But then they said they
replaced the stone and it still happened, so that that to me, I
was like, well, I don't know if that would unless they cut the
stone from the same place and it was just like the face drawing s.
They cut the stone and they stopped, but there was like this pattern in
that part of rock, and they just cut more of them put it in.
I'm like, well it's a little different. Well, a regular stone
cutter, you want to face don't cute And I think that's if it was
one face. Barcelona facetone. It's very expensive, but people put it in
their bathrooms, they put in their kitchens. Barthelona facetone. It's good to
get a massage with too. Everyone is very excited about it. It's not
quite marble, it's not quite a Trabartine Barcelona. Every time you say it's
squishes more. I think if there was just one face, there could be
more of the Maybe it's a there's something in the actual stone that just happens
to look like a face. But because they replace the stone, because there
are different stones, for me, it's just that's different faces and yeah,
yeah, yeah, it's it just seems like an absolute hoax. Now they
either way it's bull stone. Shotgun sound? Can we get it? Can
we get a crotch slap? Snot sound? Oh yeah, yeah, crotch
slap. That was good. That was good. That was good. It's
good. I don't think I'd ever want to pull off a hoax, but
I would like to believe I'm capable of it. If I was, I
think you're I think I think you're very capable. Depends on what it is,
I guess. Yeah, I mean, like take for example, I
mean the War of the Worlds. This will I'm bringing it all together?
Yeah, hoaxes or sin Wells. No Spade Martians? Why Martians have long
been celebrated for their abilities to invade and enslave humanity. But what if I
told you another into Spader their species with that same dedication to enslave into Spaderer?
Really enjoying my horse? And wells are you it's coming along? But
no, what are the worlds? Which I need to listen? One of
the greatest hoaxes ever? Yeah, I mean they it wasn't It kind of
lives in this weird space because it was a hoax in that they were doing
everything they could to make it sound real, but just so that at the
end of the show they could be like, why not and not not like
they wanted? That was actually the original script not not not dicks. They
They wanted people to believe it, and they worked really hard to make it
sound believable, but then be like, weird to have a lot of talent
non display. This is oh so uh. And I listened to it.
They had it on NPR and Halloween Night last year, and I didn't listen
to it this year. I want to. It's just a cool radio play.
Yeah, but like people on cassette, people weren't just like, oh
you got me. People were like, holy effing shit. People were and
people were pissed. He was in the paper the next day. Yeah.
And if you watch okay, so, if you ever watched the The Citizen
Kane documentary that r KO two eighty one, the film is based off of,
they spit. Yeah, it's really good. You get deep. Yeah.
Yeah. They spent a particular section about war the worlds in there,
and what they do is they talk about they they interview people who were listening
to the program at the time, and like one lady. One lady said
she was having her her her I believe she said weekly bath. Okay,
it was a different time, yeah, And she talked about how she thought
this might be the last time she ever bathed. This is last time she
ever talked to her parents. They talked to a woman who ran a switchboard,
and she just couldn't keep up because she had no idea because they're in
this room doing their work while the entire world is going crazy at this point.
Yeah, and then it all happens, and the next day Orson Welles
gets on very sullen, very apologically. We had, we had no idea
what we were doing. We were just trying to make a radio program.
Just and then you're like, you you're too smart for them to stop.
Stop. How did Rison say it? We're just trying have a good radio
program. Um. Like some of the finest radio dramas, we too tried
to entertain and radio dramas in Europe, we found radio d no idea.
I'm hungry. I'm hungry. I brought it with me. Um yeah.
So yeah, so he like went, you know, for contrition, But
like they had, clearly they put a lot of really brilliant work into making
it sound like they were going from from this radio station to this radio station.
Now this one went dark, so this one's picking it up. Uh.
I don't and I don't believe for a moment that it was contrition.
It was part of the act. Oh yeah, he knew. He said
one day in one of their meanings, that we are going to do this
so hard that we are going to they are going to think that we we
had it's real, but we had no idea what we were doing. I
mean, we're just a simple little radio program, right and then oh and
then and then oh, the next thing I know, I'm going to be
directing Julius Caesar on Broadway. Yeah, exactly, I'm sorry, did I
drama too hot for you? America was acting so exquisite you could no longer
tell what you were experiencing mea kalpa. Wow, But that's I think that's
a great example of like, uh of of like the motives for a hoaxing.
Yeah, you know, of of of an angle one could play on
that. I was gonna bring up the point that the faces, you know,
they throw out there, that it's it's on this burial site and they're
there, guys, they're above these bones, these I'm we but in the
end they tie it to the woman, not to sighte. Yeah, so
like why red Herrings mother ran? Yeah? Mother man? A man?
What does his mother? Man? I think his marvel superhero ever. Look
at this guy. It's mother man. Oh no, he's gonna breastfeed me.
He cannot be stopped from wiping your face after a meal. Let's go
here. It comes, endless guilt trips. He's gonna put me in the
time out of justice. He's just he's just really stressed out and overworked.
And you know between nobody appreciated. Yeah between, let him have a glass
of white wine or two? What kind of wine? Pino? Oh?
Yeah, Oh my god, that's glorious. See, that's what happens when
you when you when you're dive bombing for mother far and then you pull out
the last second. What's up, mother man? I'm sorry, did you
just try to insult it? No, like trying to relate to me with
the power of nurture or some say nature, just as to make sure you
go to church on Sundays, mother man. I mean, when you think
about it, it's a hoax, and no one was. Really there's a
something to this one. There's something a little sweet to it because she's just
a little old lady. That's all I mean. Really, when it comes
down to it, I mean, never hearing it. That means that you
know, I've heard of all the big hoaxes because they're they're usually religious based.
That's true, you know, so some might say a little the greatest
hoaxes take that certain parts of America. Yeah, and that's how the torches
get lit. Yeah, well, let me let me change gears here than
ask you. Right, he's doing my job for me. Have you guys
ever heard of anything else like these things like the bellmez faces. Have you
heard of any other um hauntings or hoaxes or non hoaxes or non hauntings.
There's the there's the overpast Jesus. Well, yeah, do you think that's
the same well, kind of the same thing though, because that it's a
face that just showed up. But I feel like that is somebody who is
very bored walking under the underpass, being like, oh that nasty ass dropping
from the rust of the girders above it. Part kind it looks like a
face. It must be Jesus trying to tell me something. And then like
everybody else is like, oh, yeah, that looks like Jesus, because
you said it looks like Jesus. You know, I'm not sure that's the
Lord, our guy giving us a message, but I'm not going to end
a gamble with it, so yeah, I will. Well that's what that's
you know, there's there's tons of those. I remember when I was a
kid, Aaron Young or Aaron or Aaron O'Brien in fourth grade, her parents
Young, Aaron O'Brian, she her parents were part of this group that would
go to a place called Magic Gorrier turn gets Catholics, gets inside my magic
green top hat. That's time to go to Never trust a host that has
the word magic in it. Uh. But it was the same thing,
play Magic to Go. It was the mother Mary Apper Islands. Sorry,
it's trying, Greg, keep trying. We're all the decks are green,
so it's mine. Whoa too far? Yeah? Was this middle school kids?
Play cards? There? Man? Okay, I mean it was just
Aaron O'Malley is right, callahan. She's riding on her magic lepre carn Darby
O'Gill, hey Sullivan, guys. When I took a drink. Oh there,
oh man, No, it was just the same thing as it was.
It was the mother Mary talking to young children. They would go to
this mountain and the mother Mary, Virgin Mary, you know Mary Mary Christ
would marry Jay Christ, the Christ, the Queen of hip hop soul.
Yeah. Um, she would talk to the youth and they would come down,
and that the kids would come down and the youth, Yes, only
the youth. And it wasn't a person enough, I have to say,
and the only one sold or enough? Am I right? Everybody might right,
hurry boy away or I'm from the Middle East. Funny story by way
of an explanation, that's I mean, that's that's one of the ones I
grew up hearing all the time. And even then he's a kid. This
is in Milwaukee, Magic Gorrier, I believe that's South America. Oh okay,
are the only way to throw the bishops off my trail I put it
into America has fifty tank to long. But I remember like there was at
the first times I really doubted any sort of religion thing or like like like
that seems like a big bunch of bull like stone. Uh you know,
I just it just seemed really convenient that that, you know, they were
sending these kids up to talk to them to actually it was one it would
it was it was one chosen one, and that would that that chosen would
cycle as the chosen who get older than a new one would be picked,
chosen one, what child to listen to the mother Mary. So this was
like the child Pope or the child Dolly Lama. Yeah exactly, yeah,
yeah, and this and and and and it was for years we'd hear her
talk about this because their parents would go all the time, because it was
what we were talking about before, a way to get people to get there,
spend their money, buy things, because she would come back with artifacts
and and and and booklets and things like that. And and thinking back now,
she's almost kind of selling us on the idea as at one point they
were going to come in with it. We have a great travel plan for
y'all. Yeah, you guys want to go to Magic Gorria. We got
a great package seven days, six nights at fabulous l Magic Gorya hotel promise,
citing that means the Magic Gorya. Yeah, that's right. It's an
all inclusive, all meals and beverages at the Scream and Shamrock only. Oh
that sounds good. Irish casidias the Oka of potatoes and flower tortillas o casidias.
Okay, but that's fine, but I'd prefer okayse a Guinness thank you
for coming to Matricier. But seriously, the Lord our God's got something to
say. He has been west burned to this wee one over here. I
hope you're all that's found your rooms now, hope everyone's comfortable. Did the
did the child pope? Did he live on this mountain? Is that what
what happened? And then you'd go up and he's like, you can ask
true questions on me, and you're like, are you really the child Pope?
Yes? Are you really? Yes? Really, yes, that's your
true questions. And then he goes, I, well, actually the one
that the one that they the child didn't live in the mountain and it was
a little girl at the time sexist and uh, the girl was the child
pope, the girls, but the girl lived in the village. She didn't
live in the mountain. She was the only one allowed to be sent up
there because they believe that she was the only one who the mother Mary would
So for most of the week she's just a kid. And then they're like,
oh, we're gonna get you to go upstairs. And so you know,
when she hit like twelve, got really bad because she's like, I
don't want to go up there. Anymore is stupid. I just want to
play like this is really a stupid out. It's super boring, mother upside
down exclamation point movie, a stupid wow. So what do you have?
You ever followed up on that at all? I think there's some some creepy
dude living up there who's like whispering through the walls. Jeff. Here's here's
what I think is if I had, if I had to take, if
I had to hazard, a guess of what happens, and you do,
is that the the people who are in charge of the organization, the people
who believe in this the most, say you will go up there, you
will receive a message. And then that child's gonna stand up there and receive
any message he or she puts in her head because they're going to be petrified
to come down with nothing. So they're going to simply come down and say,
like, love everybody, Jesus is great, let's have some milk case
ideas. You we're in South America's Bullstone man. Okay, all right,
here's what I like. And this is I am not asking for any clarification,
and I will actively fight anyone who tries to clarify it. But having
come to the end of this story. I don't know what the truth of
that is. I didn't I was not able to follow the true Terris Terrible
story. No, no, no, no, really, it's my fault.
It's me with my try in my end. Listen, that's my fault.
I did that. But I've just here's the basic idea. There's a
there's a mountain magic. Do you not hear my preamble? Okay, yeah,
you don't have to, you don't have No, you don't have to
explain. Let him wind down. It was ghost sleeping like ten minutes.
He always gets a little irish. How do you spell magic, Gorrier,
Mike, it sounds yeah, Okay, I've been in a magic mountain.
It's not the same. Yeah, it's a Canadian theme park. Oh god,
Canadia has the greatest steam parks Canada. No, okay. So,
so to get back to your question, Flora, so you don't I mean,
I guess, I guess. The difference is the difference is is that
someone you know knocks into lacks into their own paradolia to see an image in
an in a pre existing water stain. Sure, say, oh no,
no, that's a Jesus or that's a marrier or whatever. Then, but
the different But the this woman we're saying actively created the image, she made
the hoax. Well, that's that's one thought that we've thrown out the possibility.
Sure due this, we're not gonna get sued by this lady she did.
Yeah, the amount of Alex Jones, don't's gonna sue us. Oh
yeah, Oh he will do one thing and one thing only here. He
will blow the lid off. Yes, George, George sucks, sucks sukoloss.
We're gonna. Yeah, we're gonna get sued. I know, but
hopefully. I guess the a state of Sarah Sarah Estes is gonna is It
was that her name, wasn't it. Oh yeah, all these people are.
If you feel like suing us, tell you what steps Sarah, stay
sorry, save yourself some time. Send us a letter demanding two hundred dollars
because that is the extent of our of our width and breath. Fis fiscal
ease, save yourself the lawyer fees. That's right. And if you think
we were quick about getting the King of Halloween certificates, is that still out
there? All request for two hundred dollars? Care of Gray Cat, Fancy
Feasts, Katy Pause Manner Esquire believe. I believe Gray Cat called me out
once on an episode I can't remember. I know you tend to beat me
up now it's coming out. Yeah, you threatened to beat me up in
a couple episodes I'm a couple now, Yeah, at least seven or eight.
Yeah. Yeah, and you remember the entire the second season of Greg
Bach fear that he was trying. The whole second season was just him talking
about Bacula, Yeah, bacchanalien beat down. Yeah, it's all but second,
it's all about me. It was. It was an allegory for me.
Yeah. Yeah, even if it's only my head, every single episode
is actually about Greg Bach. Yeah, finally I matter m okay hoaxes.
Well, yeah that this this came out of me, me asking if there
was anything else that you could think of that was sort of like this at
all. I mean, I can't really think of anything that you can't think
of a talking mongose that comes to mind. That's a good point, though,
Yeah, that's a very very good point. I think that that ties
in very nicely. Actually, there's like a there's a there's a creature I
don't know if you guys ever covered it. The bunyip, the dagdag,
this is this is a this is a Northern Wison. No, it's a
Northern Wisconsin thing. Actually, I did a show last year in Manito Wish
Waters. Yeah that's right, Wow, the waters of Manto Wish like that,
and they what did you wear? As little as possible, just a
mesh shirt and some hope. Yeah, it's there's a there's a there's a
thing. And when you look at like, when you look at all the
all the creatures that you've covered, there are stories that can ground the truth
in it and the things that totally debunk it. Whereas the hod egg was
just like three drunk men saying, let's take a big let's take the idea
of an alligator and stick some horns, and I give a big teeth called
a hodag. Because that's how people in northern Wisconsin talk. That's a hood
egg like, that's like and it now has its own festival, the hood
Egg Festival. They completely admit that it's fake. It's made up. So
it's like it's it's like a jackalope. Yeah, exactly exactly. It's it's
it looks like it. Yeah, it's just like this big alligator with horns
and like teeth that jut out. I mean, it's it's judging by the
Wikipedia pages, like four sentences. I mean, why did they make this
because they wanted attention? Most likely it's just you know, I just think,
yeah, yeah, you know back in those days. Back in those
days, you didn't have the sort of worldwide coverage. You know, it
probably went as far as maybe like the Midwest, and then people remembered it
down the road saying, oh, the hod egg is gonna get you,
yeah, and and no one really It's just it's just so now it's just
an excuse to say, like where home of the hoed egg? Come drink?
Yeah, it's those to me are like the fun enough exactly. They're
the fun, harmless hoaxes no one cares about, and they're really stuck in
a in a tradition of Yeah it was, it was a different time.
That's why. I mean, honestly, thinking about the faces of Bellemez is
so interesting me because but it's it's it's becoming more and more interesting to me,
honestly because of the of the size of the hoax that she could have
easily said Jesus. Easily said Jesus in Spain too, and said this is
the face of Jesus, and people would have lost their shit. True,
I mean, and I guess, I mean, yeah, I guess that
speaks to the goal of it, right, which that's the only thing that's
keeping me from being like, well, it's a slam dunk hoax that she
perpetuated. True. I just don't have any anything better to offer in terms
of explanation for this particular case, you know, like, was it a
son or a family member that came in and just kind of drew with his
feet and then I was like, hey, Mom, hey, grandma,
look over here. I don't know this is this showed up in like what
nineteen seventy one or something like those seventies. I showed up in seven and
then she died No. Four, Yeah, m you can't imagine those last
mane Like probably it was the last ten years she was around. She was
the local legend of Oh, yes, that's the place where the faces appear.
Wonder how many people live in Bellmouth? Several minus Maria, probably twelve.
I just think that, like it's almost kind of a moot point.
I mean, when you Okay, So let's say for the next twelve seconds.
Okay, not a hoax. Don't you dare count me down? Uh,
not a hoax. Okay, that's right. Lucas sluts the side of
the Mississippi and you're like, fine dining, you'll want to come to,
not a hoax with with internationally trained chefs on staff. You'll love what we've
got for dinner. Potato casadillas appeared like speaking to Jesus thretty eyes of a
little girl. I try, Heavenly, that's just the best one I do.
I can't. Okay. So it's not a home, not a hoax,
okay. And an ethereal power from the great beyond has decided to touch
this mortal realm. It is where on the mortal rema they're touching them um
on the underside the floor. Because let's assume that everything for these creatures is
kind of like um, the sketch. No, it's it's like the uh,
the very last scene of the Guns N' Roses video for November rain No,
um, uh, don't you cry? Where where um? There's like
the Incredible Hulk with the shaking hands in the grave. But it's like the
graves like a window. But everyone above it's like, no, it's just
Stone. Oh woh you deep November Rain Trilogy videos. But yeah, I'm
with you. We got to see ax of Roses blue behind yeah, when
he's like yeah, so say it's totally real. Don't shoot cry tonight.
There's a heaven above you, baby, much like the famous stuff Wow Orson
Wills sings the gets of Guns and Roses Rosebud. Ye, Oh my god,
it's Arson Wells you Gus and Roses cover Man Guns and Rosebud srich child
Man. They shut up, baby, get it. Yeah, take me
down the imperiodise city fremented in. I have a new ALCO called Chinese Democrazy
knowing. Did I go too far? Maybe I should have quit when I
was directing going on here, Oh my attorney, mister brown Stone man came
to the jungle. You're never gonna die. Yeah. Your person always sounds
like he's one step away from shing his pants. He is historically accurate,
dude, we don't have he's imprisons. She's got eyes like the Skies,
much like Wow gros Bud. Yeah today, Yeah, Jared trademark, that's
our sho oh man, there are three people in the world who find this
funny sitting in the same room right now, that's all that matters. That's
brilliant. Well, hi, everybody, I'm not sorry, and I don't
even want to finish what I was saying. I don't want I want to
live in this moment forever. The rest of the shows is to be us
doing Orton Wells, doing guns and roths. Oh my god, when you
were young, you half was an open You used to say, you know
what, you can you get a little burp in there. Careful, careful,
he's heavy. Jesus, that's so fun. Oh first thing, games,
first thing that's coming off that heat press is it is a guns and
rosebud shirt. Oh man, well, oh my gosh, oh my god.
So what were you talking about? Oh my god, the pole Masonic
Temple. Oh okay, so it's Alex Jones. It's gonna be George Lewis
in the estate of two hundred dollars. Gentlemen, whoever gets there first gets
the prize. Great Cat Fancy Feasts, Squire the third, May the odds
be ever in your favorite Oh this, you guys are probably like, what
the hell are these jokers? Style? Everyone you gotta go watch the orson
Welles drunk commercial out takes and watch it again. We've men. I've mentioned
that on the podcast like four times. If you haven't by now it's your
own roomple gotta gotta go watch it. It's just too much, man,
too much. You're high. You never come down, down down. Okay,
So wait, where did this? I think you were saying that the
you're you're it, say it was real, say it was real. And
some entity from the other side finds a way, he cracks the Omega code
and finds a way to put his mark on this physical realm. Okay,
floor doodles, that's the best they can do. Floor doodles. Well,
random faces, think about it? I mean, and I think I think
you and I have talked about this on the Old uniform Snowflakes podcast. Oh
I've heard of that podcast. We used to plug it all the time when
it was a podcast, let it go. But the I think we talked
about this that that it seems like whenever ghosts seemed to appear, they do
the most mundane, Like they appear on the floors. They move something here,
they don't you know, they're not attacking, they're not scaring. This
lady was happy to have them there, and she wanted to take them with
her to Heaven. I mean, she wasn't scared. She enjoyed their company
exactly like all these hoaxes never seemed to pose an immediate life threatening danger.
It's always the most mundane crap they do to show their presence. Yeah,
and that's what we're used to now. I feel like that's the if they
did anything else, that's when we be shocked. If if any of these
things were real, we'd see them on the news, Brian Williams will be
talking about them, not some crappy show on YouTube or Discovery Channel where at
the end of it they had to say, well, we don't know what
really happened, but we'll totally speculate the shot of that. That's what we've
come to be used to, is that is that is that if if that's
if, if it is all real, that they're just really that the Nether
Beings and all those great Omega code cracker people, yeah, crackers, white
people. Yeah, there's no reason to get racially antagonistic about it. But
Okay, I feel like that's that's what we we just become used to I
mean, if they did anything else Charlton from my Cold Dead Omega Code,
I guess that's make a man. That's not quite the same thing I drew
these feast. But can you guys think of any hoax where if someone someone
their lives were in danger, somebody died from the hoax, not so much
them putting themselves in danger too to do it. Like like, so heard
of a cow that this these uh college kids wanted to play a prank and
they led the mascot cow like up the bell tower or something. And apparently
cows can't go down steps, correct, And so I don't know if the
cow had to be killed or Jesus it was. It didn't a hoax,
that's just being jerks. Well, also, like who who that's kind of
a unique problem. No one knows about cows and stairs. That's those kids
do now, great fuck just did for the rest of their lives. Souka
did you hear him? I've led a few cows upstairs in my life and
had to put a bolt behind their neck. Just put that out there,
just like that guy from No Country for Old Man Negro Hack. I mean,
I'm really bad at thinking of anything at any time, but like an
example of a hoax just in general. Besides like the Orson Wells, which
I don't even know. If I can personally considered that a hope, I
would, I've got one for you. I can say that like that,
I would consider that the a huge hoax. In fact, in fact,
I think the ultimate hoax. I think it would be the ultimate hoax because
it didn't involve anything of a of a of a supernatural god being. It
invokes something that we knew even less than back then in those days, you
know UFOs, where nowadays that people say UFOs, we kind of scoff the
day. Back then, it is completely feasible that was they still had there
were still canals on Mars then. I believe that people still thought like,
oh there was there was a thing going on there. You know that that
was the ultimate hoax, playing in on on on an innocent type of ignorance.
Nowadays, if you wanted to try to pull off a hoax, it
would be of you couldn't do it because it would invoke so much. The
aftermath I think would be so much worse. Well, I do know I
have a great example of a modern day hoax that has real consequences for people.
The ass clown who, for the purposes of a tension and looking like
you knew what he was talking about, falsified vaccine data and wrote a paper
that said vaccines are linked to autism and vaccines well with your kids' lives,
which has been disproven one hundred times over. It was a hoax, he
false, he falsified his data. It was garbage. But there are still
kids. There are still moms thinking they're doing the right thing, not vaccinating
their kids. There This is his huge ramifications because this guy wanted attention.
And there are a whole lot of people who who aren't scientifically literate. And
I'm not saying they're literally I mean they don't. They don't understand the science
of how a vaccine works. It just they are like, well, I
don't like the sound of that. That doesn't sound right. And people are
not vaccinating their children. They're they're creating huge, huge problems because of this
one guy's hoax, not knowing about was it actually a hoax or was it
some he was trying to put forth information to say this is what I think,
and they're forming to do whatever I can do to make people believe it,
Well, what's the difference. There's a big difference in my head because
to me, like a hoax of someone who's saying to me a hoax is
war the world saying this is truly not the case at all. Haha,
we're having some fun. Whereas what this guy, what you're talking about,
is someone who is putting lives in danger and opinions and pitting people against each
other for your own benefit because you just can't accept the truth because then it's
applicable to a lot of other things, which you know, you can go
into the political realm of then there's all sorts of hoax happening saying that you
know, this country is so further is so far worse off than we actually
are. You know. That's that's where I'm trying to the point of his
Yeah, the point of what he was going for. I don't know if
it was I don't know what his exact motives were. I don't know if
it was simply just the attention of publishing a paper that he knew would make
waves, or if he had this pre existing belief and decided, well,
I'm going to do some quote unquote science. But when the numbers don't come
back the way I want. I'm going to fill them in. However,
I feel like anyway to quote unquote prove that I was right at the beginning.
Yeah, I mean, either way it transcends hoax to me though,
But yeah, either way it's it's it's you're telling a deliberate lie and you're
gonna say that it's the truth in the hopes of seeing its influence on people.
I see where Yeah, I agree, I agree with that. To
me, I guess in my head, I want to believe that a hoax
has a little bit more of a of a silly silly like like today,
Like today there was a Macaulay Culkin saw And so to me, like what
you're talking about, like hoax doesn't even beginning, Like to me, hoax
is funny, like hoax, hoax makes you think, oh I fell for
it. Yeah, Whereas what you're talking about is is borderline criminal, like
that guy should be put up for some charges for really violent all sorts of
laws and ethics to put forth an idea that he really couldn't deal with being
wrong about and therefore influencing a lot of influencing a lot of people who are
influential Jenna McCarthy to put forth these ideas, influence that published books and got
talks and got attention, and people defended her because she said, you're wrong.
I'm right, You're just being reactionary and I'm actually doing the science,
you know, like it like the aftermath of what he created is criminal?
You true? Yeah? Absolutely so to me, like a hoax, Like
he didn't get he didn't get the pleasure of being a hoax. So what
if there's a term for that though, right, being a dick? Yeah?
Yeah? What about I just can't think of What about if you know,
we sit down and we record a new millennium War of the world and
people believe it, and people think that there are aliens marching through the streets
of Chicago. And some guy was like, well, I'm not going to
let those aliens take my family. And as much as I don't want to,
I'm gonna put my whole family down. Have we done there? And
in case anyone was considering putting their family down, we're not really going to
have a band called Guns and Rosebuds. And I can understand why you would
think you have to wait what they might get more putting putting their families down
if we don't release it out. I think that, I think that I
guess what I want to do is I want to go back to the idea
of war of the world. If we're the world, it's okay. So
let's say you have we're the worlds and they did the whole, the whole
program, and then there was one family who said, we won't do this,
and we're going to all take poison the unintended consequences of that hoax,
not forgiving the the action or the aftermath. There's a difference to me because
what we would be doing just to to do a new millennial War of the
worlds. We have a little bit of fun, be very very detailed about
it, but our intent was never to hurt anybody. Whereas when you're saying
I'm falsifying medical documents and research, that's a whole different ball game. To
me. I'm trying to convince people that it's okay to chug a bottle of
cold medicine, you know, like I'm I'm willfully endangering people. Yeah,
okay, And I think I think then you accept, because then you accept,
because then you accept the consequence. As you say, if I tell
you that you know the way you know, if you're cold mess let's just
use that. What I'm what I'm telling you here is that you need to
chug cold medicine because this will help you. So therefore the onus is on
me because I, as an expert, I've been telling you to do this,
or as we say, you know, the only way to defeat these
aliens is to chug cold medicine. Then if people chuck cold medicine, that's
that's not on us, right. I think any court of law would say
like this, there's no aliens, does George? No? I mean that
is are you saying that's not on us? Because it's all a tongue in
cheek in the first place. Yeah, because it's a story, you know,
if we're telling, if we're telling, what could be well, I
guess what I'm looking at as like the idea of defense defensively defensibly in court,
as a story as what they did in the War of the worlds.
The only way to the only way to defeat these is to defeat the aliens
is to chuck cole messin. Because in the cold medsin there's something that activates
a field that keeps us from their death rays. Sure, now that's far
enough off where you say, like, okay, that that is, and
especially in today's day age, like yeah, of course that's a story whereas
I say, I'm a doctor, here are my credentials, drink this and
you'll won't die, but you do die. True. Yeah, you're absolutely
right. And there's especially now there's getting into a kind of a weird area
for that, where there is precedents for that. For example, Um,
there's that current there's a million dollar lawsuit over one line from American Hustle.
Did you guys read this article? Um, if you guys haven't seen it,
it's the big ensemble piece with Jennifer Lawrence. And was it the line
from the review that said this is a good movie because I will sue the
shot out of those people. See. Uh, No, I saw the
movie. I didn't dislike the movie. I was in love with the characters,
but I don't care what they were doing exactly like I didn't give The
only character I care about in that movie was Jeremy Renner's character, and without
giving anything out, I just felt a lot of emotion towards his character.
Everybody else with the exception of Louis c. K's character because when he when
he gets his thing, You're like, this is great. But everything I'm
like, I don't care about any of these characters. And I think,
because you have all these people, American Hustle is not science fiction, so
I don't think it. Um spoiler rules are applicable. I think you can
say whatever you want. Okay, that's where I haven't seen it. I'm
just looking after the people. Yeah, Painter Bob High, Painter Bob So
to me, yeah, that movie sucked out out loud. It was terrible.
But there is a part in there where Jennifer Lawrence's character um quotes something
that's made up about microwaves and how they they was so funny. Yeah,
because and that's the thing that that makes it so silly to me that there's
a lawsuit, because that was her character. She's this woman who just said
whatever popped into her head, but like committed to it, and it wouldn't
you know, like she keeps saying, she she tells him, her her
husband, that she did him a giant favor by making the microwave explode.
She probably saved everyone's life by starting a kitchen fire, you know, like
and yet there's a lawsuit about that. They called what they call they called
a microwave science, and they they call a microwaves science or the I mean,
it's it's the same realm that when you get served hot coffee and you
spill it on yourself and you sue them for serving you hot coffee. And
I think the point of a clarification, I think the exact lawsuit about that
movie is that they and I can sort of see where this is coming from,
is that they say, no, I write an article by this guy
who is a real person who did this. That was his job, as
he did this kind of science, and he was to write articles about microwaves.
But what she said and attributed to him in the movie was totally fake.
Yeah, so that's he's kind of like on the guy who did that
was like, well, no, I never said that, but it's a
work of fiction. And I don't think anyone was like, you know,
oh well because this one character in American Hustle, yeah said this then,
and I can't buy microwaves anymore. It's all over the good Web ruined a
man good Man's name. Because what they're doing is they're say if they're suing
for a million dollars. That means that then they're they want to get they
want to get like a hundred grand in settlement, right, And it's it's
like it's imagine, imagine every musician who Jack Black talks about in high fidelity,
going, oh, well, in this movie he said, my music
sucks ass, and so now I need to sue, you know what I
mean? Like, there's why and why aren't people suing the government for all
the things that people say about what they're doing to people. It's like it's
the pinnacle of ridiculous because of the government can afford the top lawyer there was
the judicial. Interesting thing about interest anything about the coffee I don't know if
you know the history of the McDonald's coffee suing incident. I don't know,
but I don't care. Okay, but no, you can't tell us.
Just find it interesting because people a lot of people will use that as a
as a as an example. What had happened with that woman is that she
had everything that we know is true with regard to what had happened to her.
She got hot coffee. Uh it spilled in her lap, but she
scalded degree burns in the crotch areal area. And I'm not a doctors.
Yeah she was. She had switches her American rise. It's called a bucket
funnel, and it would just designed to focus liquid into genitals. Bucket funnel.
Lots of people wear these things. It's not unheard of. But she
had. What she had done was she went to she she had found that
the coffee was like any degrees hotter than more a normal coffee, like coffee
that my genitals. Wait, she found that the coffee was eighty degrees hot,
like regular coffee that you drank. I don't know. I don't drink
coffee, but regular coffee is used about one hundred and ten degrees from the
Yeah, yeah, I mean because that people drink at different temperatures. How
do you measure that? But what you do is you do your genitals into
it. To my genitals don't fall off? Oh my god, that's one
of our useless superpowers. Oh I have one for you, tester thermameter.
But when you when years is better? All right? Sorry? So when
you when you when you brew the coffee to higher temperature, you can yield
more cough from the bean. That's what McDonald's and all the other fast food
places to do because it saves money on the bean. So you brew it,
you brew it hotter. It's you could be in the upper one hundred's
closer to two hundred degrees. And that's why they had they put the caution
very hot as you would think, what happeners you put it between her legs,
it opened, it's spilled. They found to be hotter. They've found
that there were a lot of other people that had happened too, so they
did a class action lawsuit. So the amount of money you see in the
lawsuit with itself being for so much, yes, you can have your opinion
on how you feel about the lawsuit itself. But everyone likes to think like,
oh, she's sued them for millions. Well, she actually sued them
like seventy grand. That's not the issue that I have. Yeah, it's
the lawyers who went off a class action totally. I guess. It's like
when I when when I learned that, I was like, I was like,
Oh, this lady just burned her crotch and she wanted new skin.
You know, It's like that's the whole thing. And and and every time
I hear someone say like like the lady. I'm like, I'm like,
she just burned her crotch. Don't drink coffee in America, America, I
mean, and no, no one I did. The funnel funnel buckets with
the funnel bucket industry was laid back overnight. All those people working in the
funnel bucket plants, they don't have jobs. Where's their lawsuit? Where's their
justice? I asked, what what? What? What a law firm are
you with? That was racist? I'm just an interested potty. Oh no,
I honestly think that the majority of people, if you asked them what
their big beef about this would be, would be that someone received something knowing
that it was a hot beverage and then sued because it was hot. Yeah,
what it boils down to it. But they have that we have in
California with Arabic beings, And you know what, I don't decide to the
highest temperature, much like the coffee found in a magical hotel. This hotel,
this magic magic cop swe served you my clairvoyance, young girl speaks with
Jesus of Jesus. Not too that I wasn't there putting words in my mouth
that put some chicken in my mouth. It's not on the script, and
you're making me very angry. But I should have asked me to direct this.
I know how to work with the difficult tactics. I just felt the
collective eye roll of everyone going I really thought they were done with that.
No, no, no, And I don't disagree with you either. I
don't like I think it is. I think there is a bit of ridiculousness.
I just for some reason, whenever I hear it, I was like,
I always feel the need to like clarify because I'm a big dumb log
geek. So I'm like, yeah, I know information, and I you're
a big dumb log geek. Yeah. I always I didn't feel the need
for speed, but not like going fast like drugs. You know they're making
a seventh Fast and Furious yea. And actually Paul Walker will be in the
film. They filmed some things already with him, and I saw the preview
last night. They're gonna like Jedi him is like blue Light. We'll say
this. I've never seen a single film of their until of the Need for
Speed People until the sixth one. And I gotta say I'm in. I
really enjoyed it. I really enjoyed it. It was so right. Yeah,
it was where I think to believe that the rock this time was like
in the fifth one, I believe he was against them, and in the
sixth one like hey we need you. Classic yeah, classic trope they drove.
Are they Tokyo Drifting? That was like the third or fourth one.
No, they're gonna make another Tokyo Drift one. Once I got see yeah,
once I got into I was like, I was like, I'm gonna
look this step up to see what's happening. It's kind of like Marvel.
They've set out there, blow the lid. Oh my god. I'm so
excited that Infinity Gauntlet is happening. I was. I was hoping from the
moment they announced. I wonder if could they not if they keep putting Thanos
at the end of every well for five years and then they're like and then
and then drudging up more characters and stuff. I'm super excited that there's a
Doctor Strange movie. He's my second favorite Marvel character that's been in a Cummerbatch.
Correct, that's what they said, which is I'm actually I just I
lost my pants. I should say I should say right now. Benedict Cumberbadge
is not Doctor Strange. He shall play Doctor Strange. Please don't sue us.
Ah. Yeah, well, I'm still like I'll believe it when I
see it, because there's so many rumors floating out there right now, and
I wouldn't be surprised if they were like, oh no, we never said
ben a Edict Cumberbatche dude, this this site said it. Yeah, And
and we actually have Colin Farrell playing, And I'd be like, do you
guys, what movie was he bowls eye in Daredevil? That was the worst.
You blame Colin Farrell, You blame blame Colin No, I believe Yeah,
No, I'm with Flora on this one. For the folks at home,
I just gotta, I just gotta. I just got like a very
very pointed finger at me saying I blame Colin Farrell. Was the it was
the cobra head dress? Your bit? Yeah? No, Like, yeah,
Colin Earl in that movie, like all he did is just gives crazy
face and then that's it. That's his job, crazy face. He's just
and like flicking the nut into the old woman's mouth or whatever. And for
this next scene, what I need you to do is scream with your eyes,
but not in anger. Imagine you're shouting gibberish, but just your eyes.
Imagine you've gone to Magic cop and seen a commercial for Paul Mason.
Well, anyways, I still I wish they would resolve this idiocy with Spider
Man and the X Men. Uh so they could get everybody in everything.
But like, how do you make really though, how do you make an
Infinity Gauntlet movie without having, you know, every character in the Marvel universe.
Well that's actually its own answer. When when someone sat down and said,
Okay, we want to make an Infinity Gauntlet movie, one guy said,
okay, how do we do it without every Marvel character? Because that's
the first thing you have to do, is like pair the list down.
There's there's no there's no arguing that. I mean, I don't know.
I think it would be hilarious if they like pulled some really great Dick moves
and there was like a guy who was just wearing like a bad Spider Man
outfit who runs through a scene and some kids dressed up as the X Men.
Trick or treaty. They might do that. Like I'm not saying it's
it's beyond the rail of possibility that they can resolve this by whenever they're going
to release that film. I forget the date that there wasn't like twenty seventeen.
I think it's something like that. Yeah, because ever since they came
out with Avengers, I was like, they they're gonna they're gonna put this
together. They're gonna put They're gonna forget all these contracts and stuff because it's
been so long anyway, like they're gonna figure out a way to get all
the Marvel Universe together. But like with each passing year, that obviously is
getting less and less um lokally likely. So well, may maybe they'll just
have a scene where, you know, all the the X Men are dead
and they just show like snippets where you can infer that that's what. Yeah,
it's just watching an X Men movie. It'll just be a hand with
like the clock out. Yeah, that's that's like creepy to think about.
Yeah, I just I just uh I read the The Deadpool Kills the Marvel
Universe book. Yeah, that is really good and really disturbing to read because
basically, the the concept is that Deadpool becomes self aware of who he is
and like he always breaks the fourth wall anyways, but he breaks up beyond
the fourth like he actually goes into the fourth wall, who for whom he's
speaking to, and he starts killing off Marvel characters, and the way he
does it is so disturbing at some points, the way he kills Superman Spider
Man is really creepy. Spoilers. Well, you know, I'm super excited
that they're but you know, what's my favorite. I mean, for all
we know, Disney could just maybe just walk up to so and be like,
hey, all right, we have a checkbook here. That's what I
thought. You know, let's just let's just handle this now. And you
know, Spider Man two is adorable, but we'll just take it all back
right now. Okay, So but here put it like a put it from
this way, and to our listeners, welcome to the nerds corner. This
is a very special episode. I know you didn't think yeah, But here's
the thing though, Um, right now, Disney Marvel is doing an extraordinary
job with its movies. Like everyone's into it. They they're doing a great
job with it, and a lot of the other studios are really struggling to
make these characters do well. So say they convince Sony to lend them Spider
Man, they convince Fox to lend Wolverine and the X Men, and everyone
loses their mind, like, oh my god, it was so great,
it was awesome. And then Sony has to somehow sell a movie with their
shitty ass Spider Man and they're their lame as balls X Men like that hurts
them. So for that reason alone, it's really not in their interest to
let Disney play with their toys. Well, I'm just thinking that Disney just
comes in and says, we'll take them all back. Now, we'll take
our toys back because Disney can do it, I mean Disney. So if
our Disney has bought the Muppets, Marvel and Star Wars, right, but
I mean yeah, I mean, maybe they will just try to buy them
back out right. Having said that, that's those are huge money properties for
studios that are having a hard time finding I mean, because everything sequels now,
you know, everything is reboots. I mean, they're they were rebooting
Spider Man before that this current one's done, you know, So that would
be a hell of a maneuver and it would cost them a lot of money.
That would be speculative. They'd be paying. You know, they would
functionally have to, they would have to pay Sony for successful movies. Well
if they if they pay, I mean, if you look at the if
you look at the mouth they paid George Lucas for Star Wars, which was
four billion dollars. My guess is that that Disney could say, will give
you two billion because you're not Star Wars. Let No, they could make
a case. So but here's the thing. Star Wars is a universe.
Spider Man's one guy. He's not worth two billion dollars. Well that's not.
But that's what I'm saying, is that is that Marvel could say,
we'll give you two billion. X Men's pretty pretty They command a pretty hefty
chunk though, right X Men. I can see like I could see them
negotiating with Fox because Fox has a stable of characters. Yeah, and already
what was it, There was some some interest. I mean, the legality
of how those things work is very interesting. So, um, both Fox
and Disney have the Scarlet Witch and r Quicksilver Quicksilver. However they treat them,
they have to. They Disney legally has to give them slightly different powers,
whereas I believe the please I don't know comic books very well, but
one of them, I think the Scarlet, which is magic, she knows
how to do magic. But the Disney version it's a woman who has the
ability to alter space and matter around her, and that difference is how they
get to have her because it's some of the legalities of these things. It's
not even about characters. It's about specific descriptions of superpowers that are owned by
Fox. So I mean it gets It's actually really fascinating reading. I've never
been a big comic books guy, but the legality of how Marvel solds specifically
they sold these properties off in the nineties is really interesting, and how companies
get around it. Yeah, well hoaxes, right right, hoaxes folks is
yeah, he did it. So to our knowledge, the three of us
sitting here right now, the bell mass faces is a mystery. It's not
a mystery, it's a hoax. It's well no, I I'm saying it's
a mystery that that hasn't been solved because we haven't looked into it beyond that
that video. But nothing solved until we solve it. I wouldn't be surprised
if once we finished recording and go to my phone within thirty five seconds find
out that it was disproven. Sure, yeah, sure's true. They'll figure
something out or another. But um, but it may not be. I
would like to imagine there's one man woman out there who's man their whole life
to disprove the Belmez Faces. Does it have to be a hermaphrodite? Yes?
Okay, because this is this this, this one is so unique.
I've never taed them referred to as man women. But okay, I believe
I said man or woman, But well womenmen women that Marvel superhero. Just
it's the man, that's right, Okay, mother man with it's terrible psychic
women. What a glorious full circle. Well that's that's bell Faces for you
on this Bullstone. Hope you hope you'll like the ride Bullstone all over the
place. So mister Back, yeah, before before we we close the elegant
leather bound edition that is this chapter of Bullstone, you are an extraordinarily hilarious
and successful comedian. But where can other people prove that to themselves and their
loved ones. People can find me on my website, Gregback dot com,
Greg Back dot com. You're good enough. Yeah, look at Back dot
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you can go to my website greg back dot com. That's Greg grgbacch dot
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But and there's a full calendar on their shows, all my shows coming
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Is that available? No? What about Greg Box greg back rocks Cox?
Is that is that also? No? Actually that was sold to a
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Chicago a lot. So if I remember, do you do you have any
currently booked gigs? I'm gonna be actually at Cigars and Stripes on in Berwin
this coming Saturday. I don't know when this show is coming out, this
episode is gonna be released, but I gotta show. How about that?
All right? Cool? That's the next one coming up out on my calendar
in front of me is I can't think of at all. But yeah,
that's the next one coming up. That's next Saturday. I have a friend
who plays a lot of music gigs. It's Cigars and Stripes. You should
come out and check it out. My friend, my friend Jason Hellman,
and I will be uh performing It's Cigars and Stripes with Milwaukee friends. And
that's the two of us are the Milwaukee friends. So yeah, and uh,
I mean, if you're in the Milwaukee area, we got anything's going
on. I mean I got a sketch a sketch group now called Dynamo Kickstand,
which is we just did our first show, which was absolutely wonderful.
We did it. We did a comedie sports Milwaukee. Very cool. So
be doing another one soon for our wisconsinite listeners. Yeah, all the trip
do you have? I like you think I'm the only one. I'm the
only one. Unfortunately, I very much doubt it, because what are we
at right now, Flora, Well, we're we're getting up there and in
downloads we're getting to a fairly good amount. Yeah, I think he doesn't
want to jinx it, but I think I think that's exactly it. But
we're doing pretty good you got fans all over the world, which is very
im It's very cool. As someone who started listening to this show long time
ago, it's been very fun to watch you guys grow and grow and grow
and get new listeners. And dude, I think you just called this fat.
I think someone needs to needs to really like think about their self worth
right now. Oh so yeah, that's where you can find me awesome and
it's worth it. I've Flora and I have both tasted the goods. Yeah
they're uncut, Pierre and uh and I'm hooked. And then that's also thank
you for coming out to those shows. I really appreciate you guys having and
really appreciate you having me here. When Flora said, hey, come do
the episode, I was like, okay, please let it be an episode
with there me needs no research. Yeah. When I when I first started
listening, like like I'd love to do an episode with these guys, and
as I have to listen, like, I'd never want to do an episode
with these guys. I can't read that much. Yeah, our literacy is
a sham. It's our hopes. That is our hopes proven. Yeah,
we just debunked ourselves. Oh well, thank everyone. For listening to this
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