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Hudson River Radio dot com. This
is Travis Walton and you are listening to

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UFO Headquarters, Beautiful Headquarters. Welcome
to UFO Headquarters, the podcast where you

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listen and hear about all things UFO
related. And today Linda Zimmerman and I

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are It's a first, Linda,
I believe, yes, it is a

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big first. We have an audience
in front of us, a great audience

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because we are at the Pine Bush
UFO Festival, and what a great crowd.

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Normally we do this in our own
homes. I know, I know,

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I'm in my pajamas in front of
my computer. Pressure's on. So

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we're doing two separate shows. So
as Brian explained, you'll hear, we're

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gonna take a quick break, which
is really a fake break, and I'm

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going to talk about Pine Bush UFOs
and Mike will be doing his on I'm

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going to be doing about police sightings
and UFOs. And I was just talking

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to somebody Jen over at Crux Club. They have an outdoor puzzle adventure.

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Check it out. Check out his
tent. It's like somebody goes into the

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woods looking for UFO, gets lost, and you're supposed to find them.

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Sounds like a fun game. So
anyway, I said, I'd mention that,

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and then again, we'll be doing
the song the premiere of UFOs over

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pine Bush at the end of my
segments, so I'd better get moving.

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So pine Bush, UFOs, Where
do I? I could sit here all

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day obviously and talk about them.
But where you are sitting now. About

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twenty years ago, a small car
sized triangle was hovering see the telephone pole

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right at telephone pole height. I
mean, that's pretty remarkable. And these

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people are standing there staring at this
and awe, and other people are just

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walking around like they don't even notice
it, and it just went and took

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off. And about ten years ago, a very large lit up triangle drifted

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right over here. Rectangle excuse me
at night drifted right over here. So

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you don't have to go out in
the fields of pine Bush. You could

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be buying gas and you know,
in town getting lunch. I'm going to

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interject for a second. When you
pointed out the telephone pole and then it

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hovered at that height, the audience
kind of gasped. And when you look

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over and encourage the listeners wherever you
are, when you actually look over and

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look at a telephone pole. It
is extremely close to the ground. It's

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stupid low. I mean, so
many people over the years have said,

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if I had a rock, I
could have hit it, if I had

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a baseball, all these things,
and that's how intense Hudson Valley sightings are.

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These aren't faint little lights, and
sometimes they are faint little lights in

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the sky, but you get them
hovering really low right over the middle of

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a town. So I want to
talk about a couple of really good cases,

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some more recent, some not.
Going back to twenty fifteen. Now

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West Searsville Road. If you know
anything about Pine Bush, that was the

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ground zero where everybody gathered, hundreds
of people at night filling the fields until

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they started building all those housing developments. But still twenty fifteen. On August

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fifteenth, family lives on West Searsville
and there's a field right behind their backyard

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and they see a circular craft and
I didn't. Can you grab me one

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of those papers? They're all gone. There's one on the ground. If

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you look the top left, there
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you have a live audience. This
one right here upper left. That's a

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sketch. They saw that it wasn't
landed. It looked like it was hovering

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three feet above the ground of the
seventeen year old member of the family,

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a boy, went within ten feet
of it. You have to be careful

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because you don't know what kind of
energy these things have. He felt strange

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vibration humming in his head, started
getting very nauseated pain in his head,

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and the craft moved to a couple
of different locations before taking it taking off.

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Now, they called moufon the mutual
UFO network for New York and the

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state director himself at the time,
came down and found three circular depressions.

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And this picture here looks like broken
grass. That's because that's broken grass.

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Circular areas, not quite crop circles, but depressions where something big, heavy

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and round was several feet off the
ground, breaking and pushing the grass down.

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And even more interesting, he brought
a Geiger counter and the radiation was

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seven times higher than it should be
within each circle. You got out of

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the circle went down to zero you
got into the circle. So that's why

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I know if you see a UFO
close, a lot of people like Mike

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and I would water run towards it, but you don't know if there's radiation,

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You don't know what kind of damaging
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be what you're saying is, don't
be like mind. But no, that's

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it. That's exactly it. And
even later on, when the state director

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was there, the boy was showing
him where it happened, and when he

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went back to the circle he started
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And I see this all the time, that where something has landed, animals

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avoid it for days, sometimes years, sometimes forever. Well, so they

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leave things behind, whatever that is. I don't know. The craft returned

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in November, but didn't get lower
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just be careful, get close enough
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nothing nothing more than that. Do
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No? Oh, sorry, we're
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Brian, so they have something to
look at over here. Are not all

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right? I should apologize in advance
too that my allergies are killing me today,

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so I'm sniffily and you can hear
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all right, So we're going back
now to nineteen sixty eight. This is

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a landmark case. Because it involves
a very famous Pine Bush resident. Butch

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Hunt was the barber here. Butch
the barber for many, many years,

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so where everybody would come and get
their haircut and tell their UFO stories.

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And this picture on the upper right
is about his case. He and his

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four friends are driving across the Red
Mill Bridge, just kind of north of

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here, and they saw what he
said quote was a huge circular craft the

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size of the bank, and it
had three lights beaming down. Now they

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had the presence of mind. They
had binoculars, so they're looking at the

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craft through binoculars, and this is
one of my favorite quotes. There were

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figures looking at us as we were
looking at them. There's a moment.

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There is a moment you'll never forget, he said. And here we go

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again with the proximity. It moved
so close I could have hit it with

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a slingshot. It made like a
wishing sound. And they were just mesmerized.

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They could have stood there all night
and watched this. But another car

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came up behind and at that point
the craft tilted and took off. How

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many times have we heard that about
the craft tilting at an odd angle,

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yes, and then taking off right
afterwards. It a very consistent theme that

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we hear in a lot of the
reports. Yeah, it definitely is so

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Brian. Why don't we take our
first break and then we will come right

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back. Hudson River Radio dot Com
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back Live Linda, Live LIVEE at
the Pine Bush UFO Festival here in Pine

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Bush, New York, which is
really the epicenter of the Hudson Valley UFOs.

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I think currently, but the audience
has gotten bigger since we started.

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Yes, and this is here's the
audience again. Yeah, this is crazy.

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We should do this more often with
an automo. Y yoh, it's

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fun. It's fun, all right. So let me go to twoenty twelve

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near West near West Searsville. That
whole area has had a lot of sightings.

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I interviewed a woman named Nancy.
It was what we call a fresh

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sighting because it wasn't decades ago,
it was just a couple of weeks earlier,

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and it was August of twenty twelve, around ten thirty pm. She's

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letting her adorable little dog, Chewy. If you see the picture here,

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there's Chewy with Nancy letting him out
for the night. And she looks over

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and says, hovering silently at tree
top level, about one hundred feet away,

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she said, it was a UFO
quote shaped like an ice cream cone.

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In other words, it was pointed
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top, very clearly metal. This
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balloon. It was very clearly metal. There were no lights on, and

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usually we hear all the time about
all the lights. The only way she

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was able to see it. There
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she could see there were lights on
it, it just wasn't on. And

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she said it also seemed like the
circular part could rotate, but it wasn't

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moving. And this is very odd, but I've heard this before. There

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was a rectangular panel jutting out on
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So what you're seeing in this picture. I took a picture of her

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facing the direction that the UFO was
in, and then she sketched this little

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thing, you know, so ice
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of it. Very bizarre, and
she said, I just stood there saying,

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what the hell is that? What
the hell is that? What the

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hell? I would probably have done
the same, only maybe more colorful language.

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And then all of a sudden,
that's the way they they They just

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suddenly appear and just took off.
I came inside and sat down, and

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I just kept saying, what the
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these just genuine reaction. I was
trying to comprehend what happened. She admitted

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she had been really scared and couldn't
sleep that night, and then this was

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interesting. She said, did somebody
just get shot with a balloon? Okay?

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I was afraid thinking if they saw
me, you know, are they

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going to come? I really had
a very bad night. I couldn't sleep,

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and I still think about it all
the time now when I go to

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sleep. So I'm thinking, why
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come? So? Did you have
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your family nope, nope, Nothing
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All right, okay, so I'm
wrapping up, and then she just

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kind of adds, yeah, nothing
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Detail not very important. Probably,
yeah, great moments and you fall.

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I sat up and I was like, say what, she said, Well,

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yeah, like I was supposed to
know, she said, back in

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eighty eight, during the big Hudson
Valley wave of the nineteen eighties, she

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woke up with an excruciating pain in
her left side, and standing by the

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side of the bed were two small, hooded figures. They were so short

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she only saw their heads. She
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couldn't wake up her husband. And
one of them, she said, lifted

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a hand, pointed a long finger
at her, and they were gone,

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and suddenly she could move. She
wakes up. Her husband says, oh,

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you had sleep paralysis. You were
dreaming, you know, blah blah

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blah. But they looked at her
left side and there was a round,

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she said, like a pencil eraser, a bloody mark. Burn, like

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a bloody burn on the side.
Now, now, sleeped paralysis, as

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far as I know, doesn't cause
bloody burn marks, does it. No?

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So, and then a year later
the same thing happened, only they

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were very tall, robed figures.
And so I said, so is this

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why you were so scared when you
saw that craft? You thought they were

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coming back. But it's so funny
when you interview people, you really you

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kind of have to dance around a
little. Yeah, you have to be

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persistent. I mean I was packing
up my briefcase because nope, absolutely nothing

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else except the little figures. How
many times have you had that happen?

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When someone will have an encounter and
you'll ask anybody that's in the family experiencing

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no, and then all of a
sudden, we'll wait, my dad,

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my grandpa, yes, my brother, you know, and like all of

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a sudden, you find out it's
does Jenner. Rational encounters have been going

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on, but it all starts out
with not just just me yep, yep,

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it's and completely forget about certain things
too. But all right, so

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I have one more we'll try to
get in before before the big debut song.

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I don't know if we can rely
on this next witness. Her name

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is Linda Zimmerman. No, no, zero credibility. All right. We

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were skywatching a bunch of us back
in July of two thousand and three,

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and we were at a fabulous location
kind of near the Jewish Cemetery, but

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we were up high on this big
field. It was it was. It

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was a private home that they let
us SkyWatch from. Had big pizza party.

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It was great. So it's around
dusk and we all see a bright

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light and you're looking, well,
you know a lot of planes are coming

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in and going out of Stewart,
and plus it's dusk, so you don't

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know is it light reflecting off a
metallic craft? Is it a self luminated

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light. So we had fifteen by
seventy binoculars. Those are big, those

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are very big. So I grabbed
them and as I'm saying, you know,

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possibly a satellite or a military jet. And I'm looking and there's a

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moment of disconnect because you see this
here, that's what I saw. It's

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and you can hear because we were
recording, not a satellite. It's round

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below the clouds and moving fast and
it was really booking and I some of

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you may not understand this, but
it's a highly technical aerodynamic term. I

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said it was hauling ass Sometimes you
forget you're being recorded. But it took

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fifteen to twenty seconds, I'd say, to go the length of of the

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sky, and everybody's grabbing for other
binoculars. By that time it was gone,

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but it was a shiny metal ball. No wings, no means of

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propulsion, no nothing I have.
And you bring up a good point because

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in space aero dynamics mean nothing because
of the vacuum. But once a craft

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would enter our atmosphere, they'd be
subjected, you think, to the laws

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that would otherwise govern every aircraft with
drag and aerodynamics, and they seem to

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be able to defy that. Objects
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seem to do that. Yeah,
yep. So nothing much else happened,

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just a sphere flying through and around
midnight a friend of ours art. He

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had to leave because he had to
go to work the next morning. And

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you know when somebody leaves, then
usually something happened. So I'm in the

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process of saying, well, you
know what's gonna happen when you leave,

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something will happen. I think I
got about three or four words out,

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and there was this bright, brilliant
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I don't see where the flash is
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if somebody just took a picture.
And there was a group of trees behind

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us a couple hundred feet and one
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Chris, he saw the flash.
Everybody saw the flash coming out of

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the woods. So they're running down. I don't know what they're running towards,

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but I'm running with them, and
we go down to the woods.

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Absolutely nothing and no people, no
sound because one of the people described it

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as like the flash from an M. Eighty firecracker, but silent. And

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that is the famous there's a name
the pine bush light bulb effect. This

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happens. It's happened a lot all
around this area. And you know,

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I talked about animal reactions. You
know, some people said, oh,

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it was distant lightning this or that. I checked. The nearest thunderstorm was

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south of Brooklyn, so I don't
think that's where we got the lightning from.

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But the woman the next day who
owned the property, she had a

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whole bunch of animals, and she
said her cats went down to that field

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where we were, would not leave
the whole night. They always come in

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for a night because the first time
in their lives they would come in the

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house. Whatever this was, they
were drawn to that spot. And you

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know, it wasn't just seeing the
flash. To me, it was like

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I stuck my finger in a socket. I can't drink coffee, but I

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felt like I had drank ten cups
of espresso. I was just buzzing all

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night. Was this intense energy to
it. So pine Bush is unique because

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you can have triangles over telephone polls, you can have flashes of light,

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A lot of things come in and
out of the ground. I love it

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here. It's just absolutely right.
Before you debut the song, I want

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to ask we had about what thirty
thirty five people here? Forty Just raise

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your hand if you've seen something in
the sky you can't explain, okay,

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all right, most deep people,
yep, yep. So just a brief

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background on this song. Gary Triibert, who's a good friend of ours.

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He's been on the show, lifelong
experiencer. He's also been a musician.

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He's had a band since he was
twelve. He's not twelve anymore. He

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did our theme song. Hey did
our theme song, and several years ago

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I said, you know, pine
Bush needs a UFO song, So I

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gave him some lyrics. Took him
three years to get around to it,

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but he came up with this song. He changed some of my lyrics.

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An author never likes to be edited, but he did good. He did

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good. So we'd like to debut
this song for you. Wild box and

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great fasts, bride lights flashes the
night in those skies, Ouva pie bushkis

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a sing Some things in the sky
over bibush silence and moving bat. Could

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we be clemsing of huge jump contact
the last no one tells tell us story

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and black sun of your law,
don't speak, keep your silence hiding?

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Want you saw Something's in the sky
over pine bush silence in moving fast?

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Could we be blimsing of hut up
contact the last the same time, I'm

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done stories being months on your bag. Mister mister attention. We've now reached

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our destination. We hope you enjoyed
the white and have a nice day.

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Words, breads and crabs gather at
the yearly Evans Garman see the musium.

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It's a famous scan. Something's in
the sky over by bush silence and moving

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past. Could we've been napting the
purger contact and something's in the sky over

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by bush silence and moving past.
Could we've been naming the piltum contact the

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last contact that ass over by most
contact, that has over by bush contact,

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that ass over by bush contact,
that ass over by bush, over

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by bush, over by bush.
All right, let's give ahead to Gary

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Driver for that. Make that song
go viral. That is amazing, love

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it. Who came the farthest and
Zeta reticuli doesn't count? Who came a

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long distance? I was going to
give away a copy of the song anybody

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Pluto? That's pretty far? How
far is that? Oh? You take

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this? All right? So all
right, so Mike bring us out.

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Well, thank you for our live
audience, for being here. It's great

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to be at the Pine Blush Ufo
Festival. Until next time, I'm Mike

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Wharton with Lindis and Remani and keep
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