1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:44,479 You own. Hello, everybody, welcome, here we go. It is 2 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:48,840 that time again, Happy Friday. It is Matt Connerton Unleashed and we are 3 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:53,479 live from the studios of w m n H ninety five point three FM in 4 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:58,200 Glorious Downtown Manchester, New Hampshire. Also on Comcast ninety seven. If you're 5 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,600 in Manchester and hello to Oliver on and listeners across the nation and around the 6 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,560 globe. You can go to my website Matt Connerton dot com for all of 7 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,040 your live streaming options, social media links, contact info, show archives, 8 00:01:07,239 --> 00:01:12,599 etc. Etc. Today is Friday, April twenty eight, two thousand twenty 9 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,120 three, so nice to have you all with me. By the way, 10 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,599 I played that for I saw j fed in the chat. I said, 11 00:01:18,599 --> 00:01:22,000 oh, I haven't played that in a while. Dark Brandon's think about what 12 00:01:22,079 --> 00:01:26,040 you'd think about remix from the Remix Bros. If you're looking for that on 13 00:01:26,079 --> 00:01:30,599 YouTube. And I also played before that band I was in called Chemical Distance. 14 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,799 I played our song. We had a song called the Carnival and I 15 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:41,040 happen to hear I guess as a carnival coming. Maybe it's every year. 16 00:01:41,079 --> 00:01:44,640 I haven't paid attention to that stuff really since I was a kid. But 17 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:51,319 I heard on the morning show Peter White and and Matt and Kyle was there 18 00:01:51,319 --> 00:01:55,040 too, talking about the carnival coming, and DJ Steve was there as well 19 00:01:55,159 --> 00:01:57,359 talking about the carnival, and I was like, oh, you know what, 20 00:01:57,319 --> 00:02:00,719 I was on a song I played based on a song called Carnival. 21 00:02:00,799 --> 00:02:04,480 Maybe I'll maybe I'll once again open with something from one of the bands I 22 00:02:04,519 --> 00:02:07,680 was in. Why not it's Friday. It's Friday, So that's why I 23 00:02:07,719 --> 00:02:12,479 played that. If you're wondering, it's it's unconventional, it's a I always 24 00:02:12,479 --> 00:02:15,639 had a very hard time in that band. We all did, all three 25 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,240 of us, that we were a trio, and then we added a live 26 00:02:17,319 --> 00:02:22,879 drummer, so then we became a what not a trio a quatro? I 27 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:29,000 don't know, but I always had a hard time in that band describing it 28 00:02:29,039 --> 00:02:31,039 to people. Of any of the bands that I've been in, that one 29 00:02:31,199 --> 00:02:36,240 was easily the most unique in terms of our sound. You know, it 30 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,560 was like a mix of hip hop and industrial and I don't know, there 31 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:45,919 was no real genre for us to fit in, but anyway, that's why 32 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,599 I played that. If you are curious, so welcome everybody on this glorious 33 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,360 Friday. You know, Friday is my favorite day of the week. It's 34 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,240 my long day here at WMNH because not only do I do this show, 35 00:02:55,240 --> 00:03:00,400 but then I'm back later from eight to eleven PM for retro Spectrum Ideo with 36 00:03:00,479 --> 00:03:04,599 Paul ec I have the honor and privilege of being one of Paul's co hosts 37 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,960 on that show, along with our friends DJ Steve and Mike from Queen City 38 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:12,159 Cabinetry, who I also see in the chat room. Queen City Cabinetry of 39 00:03:12,159 --> 00:03:15,240 course one of our great sponsors here at WMNH in the Historic sunb Maall and 40 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:20,039 Mike is also one of our co hosts on Retrospectrum Radio. So perhaps we'll 41 00:03:20,039 --> 00:03:23,680 see Mike this evening, and he's been out with an injury, but uh 42 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:29,639 yeah, So Fridays are a lot of fun here at WMNHUM Today on the 43 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:31,479 show too, in the coming up at in the second hour, at the 44 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,879 top of the hour at five PM, we're gonna do Eric Pilcher's classic film 45 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,159 review, as we do every Friday, and this week the subject is the 46 00:03:39,199 --> 00:03:45,199 film Double Indemnity, and again it's a case of a movie that I've never 47 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:49,360 seen. I've always been aware of Double Indemnity. It's uh, it would 48 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,479 be in it is in the film noir genre, but I've never actually seen 49 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:58,280 the movie, and as is so often the case, listening to Eric's review 50 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,759 makes me want to see it, so now I'll have to see it. 51 00:04:00,199 --> 00:04:04,240 Got to add it to the list. But yeah, it sounds really good, 52 00:04:04,479 --> 00:04:09,319 and I feel like Eric too has really improved a lot on the reviews 53 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:14,039 and in terms of the sound quality, and also because he records them at 54 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,199 you know where he is in Cedar Rapids, Iowa and then sends them to 55 00:04:17,199 --> 00:04:20,680 me, but also in his confidence and his delivery and so forth, I 56 00:04:21,519 --> 00:04:25,519 think he's come a long way with that. So we're very happy to have 57 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,920 him as part of the family here on the program if you'd like to. 58 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:31,480 So that'll be coming up at five pm if you'd like to join us. 59 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,600 In the meantime, the studio line is open six ZO three two five h 60 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:39,959 six zo seven six Z three two five oh six O seven. You can 61 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,439 also text me at six one seven nine one seven four four seven six. 62 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,639 I'm on social media at Matt Connerton. You can email me Matt at Matt 63 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:51,439 Connerton dot com, and of course you can interact endo Pine in the Facebook 64 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,439 live chat. We love when you do that, and we encourage that. 65 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,519 But the best thing to do so that we can hear and enjoy your dulcet 66 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,800 tones is to give us a call all at six zoo three two five zero 67 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:08,639 six O seven. Oh. Paulic is in the chatman says, tonight's a 68 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:13,639 theme on Retrospectrum Radio. We're featuring number one songs of April twenty eighth, 69 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,240 from nineteen seventy to nineteen ninety five. Excellent, that'll be fun. I 70 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,240 like, uh, I like when we do when we do shows like that, 71 00:05:20,879 --> 00:05:25,319 so that'll be great. So that will be tonight on Retrospectrum Radio this 72 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,959 week. Of course. Uh we also have granted State of Mind at six 73 00:05:28,959 --> 00:05:31,160 pm, as we do every Friday. I heard Peter saying that this week's 74 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,839 show is going to be a replay, but they'll be back with new shows 75 00:05:34,199 --> 00:05:39,000 next week, and they will be of course during the warm weather now that 76 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:44,360 we're into not summer, but the summer, the summer half of the year, 77 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,879 the warm weather half of the year, although it hasn't been that warm 78 00:05:47,959 --> 00:05:51,800 lately. Actually today I got up to sixty. But they'll be back in 79 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:56,199 the barn or back in the bond, as some in this uh in this 80 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:00,480 region would say, at Pembroke City Limits recording the shows and those are those 81 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,240 are a lot of fun to listen to, so we look forward to that. 82 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,439 But again, the studio line is open six zo three two five six 83 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:11,959 seven six zo three two five six seven. I do have a specific subject 84 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,279 that I want to bring up today that I had hinted at. I give 85 00:06:15,319 --> 00:06:16,639 you a little teaser yesterday. I told you a little bit about it, 86 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,560 but which we'll get into in a moment. But I do want to say 87 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:24,040 hello to everybody in the Facebook live chat. But there are some bipartisan legislation, 88 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,600 my friends, see the two parties can work together. Unfortunately, the 89 00:06:27,639 --> 00:06:32,959 thing that they're working together on is something that's not good. But we'll get 90 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,360 to that in a moment. And by the way, some of you might 91 00:06:35,399 --> 00:06:39,240 disagree with me, some of you might think that it is good, so 92 00:06:39,519 --> 00:06:45,800 we'll see. I look forward to facilitating the discussion. Eric Pilcher, Eric, 93 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,160 we were just talking about you in the film review. Eric joins us 94 00:06:47,199 --> 00:06:50,879 in the chat room and says, good afternoon from work everyone, Good afternoon, 95 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:56,120 Sir j fat Is in the chat and says good afternoon everyone, and 96 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:00,199 he uh, he quoted some lyrics from that think about what you'd think about? 97 00:07:01,199 --> 00:07:03,240 Is it what you'd think about? Yeah, it is what you'd think 98 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,399 about. Although I think in the song you actually said. Yeah. He 99 00:07:05,439 --> 00:07:10,040 does say that, doesn't he He does say those exact words. J fed 100 00:07:10,279 --> 00:07:14,360 quoting some lyrics from the song. Let's be honest, I'm serious about it. 101 00:07:16,519 --> 00:07:20,360 Let's see Mike from Queen City Cabinetry I did mention is in there as 102 00:07:20,399 --> 00:07:26,319 well, and Paul se joins us. But let's get into it, shall 103 00:07:26,399 --> 00:07:34,040 we. So this is what I was referring to yesterday. I think it 104 00:07:34,079 --> 00:07:38,439 was yesterday. I'd mentioned this yesterday or the day before. Oh, by 105 00:07:38,439 --> 00:07:40,680 the way, if you miss yesterday's show, please check it out. Peter 106 00:07:40,759 --> 00:07:44,879 PAPIs was here with us. He performed live in studio during the second hour 107 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,120 with his acoustic guitar and his harmonica. Just phenomenal. And I've heard so 108 00:07:48,199 --> 00:07:51,759 much positive feedback on yesterday's show. Of course, we archive all the shows 109 00:07:51,759 --> 00:07:55,959 at WMNH Radio dot org. You can download its, stream it, do 110 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,279 whatever, and it's on Facebook and we'll get it up on YouTube and everything 111 00:07:59,319 --> 00:08:03,199 too. But was just amazing. What a voice that guy has. He 112 00:08:03,279 --> 00:08:07,360 does a lot of really good covers, but I really like his originals to 113 00:08:07,519 --> 00:08:13,240 his originals are amazing. But all right, but we must focus on the 114 00:08:13,319 --> 00:08:18,920 now. This is from Wired dot com. A bill would ban kids under 115 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,879 thirteen from joining social media. The legislation would insert the government into online platforms 116 00:08:26,079 --> 00:08:33,440 age verification efforts, a move that makes some US lawmakers squeezy, and it 117 00:08:33,519 --> 00:08:35,600 makes me queasy as well. My friends, you do not have to be 118 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,120 a US lawmaker to be queazy about this. You can just be a normal 119 00:08:39,159 --> 00:08:43,799 citizen like myself. I object to this. I think this is a very 120 00:08:43,799 --> 00:08:46,960 bad idea. I've got a few different reasons. We'll look at the article 121 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,600 in depth in a moment, but I've got some problems here, just a 122 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,000 few things off the top of my head. And by the way, some 123 00:08:52,039 --> 00:08:54,919 of you may disagree with me on this, or you may have some ambivalence 124 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,080 about this. I'd love to hear your thoughts on it at six three two 125 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:03,960 five h six O seven and we can facilitate some discussion up Jenny joins us 126 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,039 in the chatterman says, shalom, peeps, I don't like this. I 127 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:11,759 think this is a bad idea. So number one, and we'll get into 128 00:09:11,759 --> 00:09:15,679 the details in the article in a moment. But number one, if you 129 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:20,879 are a longtime listener of the show, you know that I am very, 130 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:31,000 very nervous anytime the government wants to do something new in terms of regulating the 131 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:37,399 Internet, specifically social media. There's always these different ideas about how to how 132 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,399 the government can regulate social media, you know, for our own good. 133 00:09:43,639 --> 00:09:48,080 Maybe some of this is the libertarian in me coming out, but I don't 134 00:09:48,159 --> 00:09:52,639 like the idea of the government getting involved in social media. I oppose the 135 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,960 repeal of Section two thirty. For example. We've discussed that many times on 136 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:03,559 the show. If you repeal section two thirty, then that would allow you 137 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:09,799 could actually sue social media companies for content on their platforms that are content posted 138 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:15,440 by individual users. These companies would then become liable for anything that has posted 139 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,159 on their platform. I think that would be the end of social media if 140 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,679 you were to do that. And listen, these companies already police what goes 141 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,320 on their platforms anyway, we might not always agree with how they do it, 142 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,639 how they approach it, what the rules are, what goes, and 143 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:33,799 what doesn't go etc. But they do do that. So you know, 144 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,279 I oppose all of that. I think Section two thirty should remain in place, 145 00:10:37,279 --> 00:10:43,080 et cetera. And also in a broader context, my attitude has always 146 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:50,240 been has always been, please government, keep your hands off our Internet. 147 00:10:50,279 --> 00:10:54,519 The Internet should remain as free and open as possible. Obviously, there is 148 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,639 some regulation of the Internet in terms of laws. You know, you can't 149 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:03,120 defraud people on the Internet legally, right, you can't. You can't distribute 150 00:11:05,279 --> 00:11:09,720 things that are illegal on the Internet. Uh, you know, like a 151 00:11:09,919 --> 00:11:13,960 you know, child pornography, things like that. Um, there are there 152 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:18,399 are some common sense things that from an ethical and moral standpoint of course, 153 00:11:18,919 --> 00:11:22,600 need to be prohibited on the Internet obviously, but we have to be very 154 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:28,080 careful about not letting not letting too much of that. In terms of regulation 155 00:11:28,159 --> 00:11:31,360 and the government sticking their noses in on the Internet, we should not allow 156 00:11:31,919 --> 00:11:39,039 that beyond the bare minimum necessary. In my view, Um, I don't 157 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:43,720 want the government ruining the Internet. So I get very very concerned. And 158 00:11:43,799 --> 00:11:48,600 again with social media, I get very very concerned about the government coming in 159 00:11:48,039 --> 00:11:52,360 and um, you know, there are people, some people are on the 160 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,799 other end of the issue. Like all the way. On the other end 161 00:11:54,799 --> 00:11:58,639 of the issue, some people say that that these um social media companies like 162 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:03,480 face Book and Twitter and others, that they should be that we should actually 163 00:12:03,519 --> 00:12:07,279 nationalize them, that they should become a part They should be treated as utilities 164 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:16,039 because because they are considered public square, they have become such a mode for 165 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:22,000 people to communicate and express themselves and disseminate information publicly that the government should take 166 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:28,799 over, which I absolutely object to. Again, I don't want the government 167 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,279 controlling, you know, because people will say, oh, well, you 168 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:35,799 know, right now, you have people posting reckless and irresponsible things on the 169 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:41,159 internet. On Facebook, for example, you might have people posting election misinformation. 170 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:46,600 You might have people posting COVID misinformation and so forth. And are people 171 00:12:46,879 --> 00:12:52,559 posting hate people using Facebook to recruit for their hate groups. And we do 172 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,759 see a lot of that go on, absolutely, and I think Facebook does 173 00:12:54,799 --> 00:13:01,200 what they can to try to try to tamp that down. But what makes 174 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:07,639 anyone think I guess if you're someone who thinks that these being treated as utilities 175 00:13:07,639 --> 00:13:11,200 on the government nationalizing them and taking them over, I guess my question you 176 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:16,039 would be what makes you think that or what makes you trust the government. 177 00:13:16,159 --> 00:13:18,840 Let me put it that way, What makes you trust the government anymore with 178 00:13:18,879 --> 00:13:22,399 that? Yeah? Yeah, they might stop. They might do a better 179 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:28,759 job in some ways, I don't know than these companies themselves of controlling certain 180 00:13:28,799 --> 00:13:33,759 things that are dangerous on their platforms. But do you really trust the government 181 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:39,480 to I mean, once you've got once you've treated one of these like a 182 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,960 utility and you've got full control over it, you can really control the messaging 183 00:13:43,279 --> 00:13:48,759 like never before that goes out there? Do you trust the government that much? 184 00:13:50,039 --> 00:13:56,120 I don't so anyway, I say keep the government's hands off the Internet. 185 00:13:56,159 --> 00:13:58,799 I've also I've brought up many times on the show, and again I 186 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,840 would invite you if you don't believe me, if you're someone who does trust 187 00:14:03,039 --> 00:14:09,639 the government in terms of making laws and rules and restrictions about social media or 188 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,240 the Internet in a broader sense, again, I would just invite you, 189 00:14:13,399 --> 00:14:18,360 go to YouTube. Not right now, stay with the show, but afterward, 190 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,200 go to YouTube and look up, look up any hearing where you've got 191 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,720 somebody like I'll often use Mark Zuckerberg on Facebook or I'm sorry Meta as an 192 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:31,559 example. Right when he goes and testifies before Congress and listen to some of 193 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:37,960 the questions that these that our elected lawgivers and overlords ask, Mark Zuckerberg. 194 00:14:37,399 --> 00:14:41,519 Just listen to some of the questions that they ask, and then some of 195 00:14:41,559 --> 00:14:45,679 the follow up questions that they ask, and ask yourself as you're watching this, 196 00:14:45,919 --> 00:14:50,360 do these people have any idea what they're doing and what they're talking about? 197 00:14:50,879 --> 00:14:54,600 And I always say, too, listen a perfect example, I try 198 00:14:54,799 --> 00:14:58,799 very very hard not to be agist. I find myself saying that a lot 199 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,720 the these days. But I try very hard not to be agist. But 200 00:15:01,799 --> 00:15:09,399 I don't particularly want ninety year old Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa to be making 201 00:15:09,519 --> 00:15:16,799 decisions that effect how I and you and everyone else uses the internet. I 202 00:15:16,919 --> 00:15:20,279 don't. I'm sorry he doesn't get a vote as far as I'm concerned. 203 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:26,519 Or ninety year old Diane Feinstein, who I realize is currently not able to 204 00:15:26,559 --> 00:15:31,600 come to work anyway. That's a that's another subject. She absolutely should resign, 205 00:15:31,639 --> 00:15:37,000 But we're not gonna get into that right now. It's I yeah, 206 00:15:37,039 --> 00:15:43,960 that's a whole other subject. But but I digress. Um Again, I 207 00:15:45,519 --> 00:15:50,200 don't mean to be agist, but I don't want I'll just say it. 208 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:54,759 I don't want very old people making decisions about very young technology. And I 209 00:15:54,799 --> 00:15:58,759 don't mean you, I mean young in terms of the user base up there 210 00:15:58,759 --> 00:16:03,279 are very old people who you technology. I mean young technology in terms of 211 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:08,600 technology that we haven't always had in the grand scheme of things. These things 212 00:16:08,639 --> 00:16:14,360 are still social media is still relatively new. You know. We certainly didn't 213 00:16:14,399 --> 00:16:17,360 have it when I was growing up. So so anyway, that's my first 214 00:16:17,399 --> 00:16:22,240 issue. I don't want the government doing any more than the bare minimum necessary 215 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:26,399 in terms of the Internet and more specifically social media. That's my first problem 216 00:16:26,399 --> 00:16:30,200 with this bill that would ban kids under thirteen from joining social media. Problem 217 00:16:30,279 --> 00:16:34,000 number two. And again, this is kind of the libertarian in me coming 218 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:41,720 out, but also the free market capitalist and or you know, conservatives might 219 00:16:41,759 --> 00:16:47,000 agree with me on this part too. I don't this this would be another 220 00:16:47,039 --> 00:16:53,159 example of the government getting involved in how you raise your kids. I think 221 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,759 you, as a parent, and I realize as someone who is childless, 222 00:16:56,799 --> 00:17:00,519 it's easy for me to say these things. I get that that's not lost 223 00:17:00,559 --> 00:17:06,839 on me. But having said that, acknowledging that I do not want the 224 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:12,119 government telling you, as a parent, whether or not your child is ready 225 00:17:14,039 --> 00:17:18,200 to engage on social media and whether they have the maturity and the sense of 226 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:22,960 responsibility and the sophistication and so forth to make good choices on social media and 227 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:26,440 in terms of who they interact with and content, etc. Etc. I 228 00:17:26,559 --> 00:17:30,279 want you to make that decision as a parent. I don't want the government 229 00:17:30,319 --> 00:17:36,519 making that decision for you. Again, this bill would be in kids under 230 00:17:36,559 --> 00:17:41,720 thirteen under thirteen. So if your child is twelve years old or maybe twelve 231 00:17:41,759 --> 00:17:45,720 and a half or twelve and three quarters, and they're they're they're bright, 232 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:52,559 and they're mature for their age, and you think you would be perfectly fine 233 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:56,000 with them having a social media account, a Facebook account, Nope, the 234 00:17:56,039 --> 00:18:02,839 government says you can't, and the government is going to hold you criminally libel 235 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:07,839 if you allow your child to have such an account. So that's my that's 236 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,960 my second problem, and we'll get to the third problem is a big one, 237 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,440 and we'll get to that in a moment. But Mike Doyle is on 238 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,079 the line him Mike, Hey, Matt, how goes it good? How 239 00:18:18,079 --> 00:18:22,960 are you very good? Thanks? Very good? Hey. I just popped 240 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:26,480 John there and I was listening to your subject and ask the question I have 241 00:18:26,559 --> 00:18:32,000 do you trust parents right right now, they're pretty much failing right because kids 242 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,400 it's almost like an epidemic online where kids can get pretty much anything they want, 243 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:42,559 from drugs to guns, to ways to make bombs, to on the 244 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,559 and on the social media is I don't know. I'm not on them, 245 00:18:45,599 --> 00:18:49,799 but I hear about all the shaming going on causing you know, so ten 246 00:18:49,839 --> 00:18:57,160 percent of young women to commit suicide or think about suicide. So I guess 247 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,880 what they're trying to do is put a band aid on a cut, which 248 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,079 is better than just letting the cut ooze. Um, So I understand your 249 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,720 theory. I'm for a smaller government and I really don't want him in my 250 00:19:07,759 --> 00:19:11,400 living room, but we've got to how do we stop? What's the answer, 251 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,359 I guess there's a question. The alternative answer, Well, I gotta 252 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,319 tell you, Mike, you surprise me because some would say, and I'm 253 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:22,799 not necessarily saying this myself, but some might hear you and think that that 254 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,559 if you're more comfortable with the government making these decisions, you, my friend, 255 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,559 you're sounding kind of like, don't take this wrong, but you're sounding 256 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:37,720 kind of like a liberal. Well no, but who else can do it? 257 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:41,359 And unless you put it on the unless you put it on the companies 258 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,920 themselves. Yeah, I'm half kidding, by the way, only half though, 259 00:19:45,039 --> 00:19:47,839 No, I understand, I understand, I'm not No, don't dude, 260 00:19:47,839 --> 00:19:51,319 I don't take anything personal. I know I'm just having trying to have 261 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,200 a nice conversation with it. But no, I know who else? So 262 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,400 what do we do about the problem? I guess it's the question there's three 263 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,640 factions, right, there's the parents, government, and then there's a company 264 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:06,079 that's putting this out, that's allowing it to happen. So should we put 265 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:10,480 more pressure on the companies to say, only the only thing you can a 266 00:20:10,559 --> 00:20:15,440 thirteen year old can do online is educational? Is art wise? You know 267 00:20:15,519 --> 00:20:19,319 what it means? Something something non pornography, non, bomb building, non 268 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:22,640 non? How do I get a gun? Non? How do I get 269 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:27,119 ston all in the shape of candy? So I get And that's a big 270 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:32,039 problem. So we've got to figure out a way to So maybe maybe go 271 00:20:32,079 --> 00:20:33,880 after the companies and say, hey, but how would they do that? 272 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,799 I guess the other question, well, they I mean you got to do 273 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,200 something. I think that well, first of all, I like the idea 274 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:47,440 of putting more pressure on the social media companies. That's a free market solution. 275 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,319 And uh, if you know, someone hearing me say that might think 276 00:20:49,319 --> 00:20:52,799 I'm a Republican but talking about a free market solution. But see it's we're 277 00:20:52,839 --> 00:20:56,279 all over the place, Mike, it's great. But no, again, 278 00:20:56,319 --> 00:21:00,039 I'm half kidding, but no, But um, I think that. Yeah, 279 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,839 I think that I trust a free market with this much more than the 280 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:11,720 government. But I also think that when I go when I'm on social media, 281 00:21:11,839 --> 00:21:14,720 I don't see a lot of kids on there to begin with. So 282 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,799 part of this to me seems like it might be a solution in search of 283 00:21:18,839 --> 00:21:22,839 a problem, and I don't like solutions in search of problems. And again, 284 00:21:22,839 --> 00:21:26,279 this is my libertarian side coming out, because I always say, if 285 00:21:26,279 --> 00:21:30,519 you're going to propose any kind of a new law, you've got to convince 286 00:21:30,559 --> 00:21:34,200 me that this law is actually doing something positive and that it's not just a 287 00:21:34,279 --> 00:21:37,920 feel good kind of thing. Like when I'm on Facebook. I use Facebook. 288 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,039 I don't really use Facebook that much for personal stuff, more for business 289 00:21:41,079 --> 00:21:45,480 and stuff. But I don't see I don't see a lot of kids, 290 00:21:45,599 --> 00:21:49,359 Like I don't see anybody really under thirteen, even showing up on my feed 291 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,000 for friends suggestions anyway. So I don't think. I don't think there are 292 00:21:53,039 --> 00:21:57,400 a lot of young kids on social media to begin with. So I don't 293 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:03,559 think that we need to be using the force of government getting involved, because 294 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,920 I just I don't. I'm very skeptical that it's even happening. And I'm 295 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:12,279 someone who uses social media every day because I use it for business and marketing 296 00:22:12,319 --> 00:22:15,759 purposes and to promote the show and various other things. I think you're being 297 00:22:15,799 --> 00:22:21,839 I think you're being a little bit naive as to young people using the Internet. 298 00:22:22,319 --> 00:22:23,799 I don't know. Well, I'm saying, I see, I get 299 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,160 school kids and stuff. They got a phone in their hands. No, 300 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:30,640 no, no, Mike Instagram texting somebody. No you misunderstand. No no, 301 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,200 no. Of course, every high school kid in the country is probably 302 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,000 on Facebook. No, no, no, I'm talking about I'm talking about 303 00:22:37,079 --> 00:22:41,839 under thirteen because this bill, the point of this bill is to ban kids 304 00:22:41,079 --> 00:22:45,480 under thirteen from being on social media. But when I'm on social media, 305 00:22:45,599 --> 00:22:49,039 I don't see anybody who looks like they're under thirteen to begin with. So 306 00:22:49,279 --> 00:22:53,599 I don't know where these kids are that they're so worried about. You know 307 00:22:53,599 --> 00:22:56,839 what, I mean, that's what I said. I don't know how it 308 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:02,359 works. But are you anywhere near a chat or whatever you guys do that 309 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:07,680 at thirteens would be jumping into um or do they have their own do they 310 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,599 have their own thing going? You know what I mean? Which would all 311 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:15,079 would all twelve thirty fifteen year olds or something and have their own I don't 312 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,000 know how it works, but yeah, the question you're you're asking the question, 313 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,079 or you're you're bringing up the topic, but we've the key is what 314 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:26,400 is the solution? There has to be a solution. We can't keep going 315 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,640 down this road where kids can freely get pretty much everything they want, from 316 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,839 drugs to guns to do you know what I mean, We just can't. 317 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,279 We just we gotta do something. Whatechnology is here, it's never gonna go 318 00:23:38,319 --> 00:23:42,880 away, and so we've got to figure out how to tame technology. Um, 319 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:45,480 I don't know how you do it, and I don't know. I 320 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,880 don't know how you do it. But so I guess they're saying, let's 321 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,359 start with this, and I don't know what your what is your negative? 322 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,000 Just at the government. Yeah, I don't want the government. I do 323 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:00,880 not like the I get very very concerned. Anytime I see anything like this, 324 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:04,079 the government's going to start sticking their nose. And how social media works, 325 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,200 it's that is a slippery slope that scares the hell out of me. 326 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:15,400 I am very very nervous about that. Yeah, well, one can make 327 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,079 a little bit of a case. For the last election, there might have 328 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:23,079 been some there might have been some media or some government factions or media that 329 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:27,319 you know, push push their narrative one way or the other. And but 330 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,599 and I agree with that. I don't I don't want the government or anything 331 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,400 that has to do with that. But I guess they're saying, what is 332 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,279 the alternative? Well, parents, I mean, ultimately, ultimately parents have 333 00:24:37,319 --> 00:24:41,599 to be parents and and keeping on what their kids are doing easier said than 334 00:24:41,599 --> 00:24:45,000 done, obviously, But right, that's the biggest But I don't know how 335 00:24:45,039 --> 00:24:47,319 to the armor right there. But I don't know how to fix that either. 336 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,400 So right, parents, parents aren't being parents that they should be in 337 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,200 watching out and you know, saying, you know, you can go on 338 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,039 these sites giving them alternatives so they can go on see their friends, talk 339 00:24:57,079 --> 00:25:02,160 about school, talk about art, talk about out. You know, Jenny 340 00:25:02,279 --> 00:25:06,960 likes Tommy and you know, in the fifth grade. I would think there's 341 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,759 ways to do that. I don't think. Yes, I just still just 342 00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:12,799 don't know what the answer is. Yeah, I don't. I don't think 343 00:25:12,799 --> 00:25:15,680 there's a lot of fifth graders on social media. I really don't. I 344 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,279 don't. I don't think. I mean, do fifth graders even maybe some 345 00:25:18,319 --> 00:25:22,720 of the map cell phones. I don't know. I'm pretty skeptical about that, 346 00:25:22,759 --> 00:25:25,079 though. I think a lot of this is I think a lot of 347 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,279 this, Mike, I really do think it's to some degree at least a 348 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:32,079 solution in search of a problem. And part of why we end up with 349 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,119 things like that is because it looks so good in somebody's campaign ad. This 350 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,880 is bipartisan legislation. There's both Democrats and Republicans who are pushing this, and 351 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,240 you know what, if they do pass it, regardless of whatever negative consequences 352 00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:48,079 there are, Oh, it's gonna look so good in all of their campaign 353 00:25:48,079 --> 00:25:49,839 ads when they run for reelection, won't it. Oh, look, look 354 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,920 what we did for American families. We're protecting kids, and they'll and this 355 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:59,880 will splash on the screen. That's that's the game, I think, right. 356 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,720 But I mean, you just this bill last week that they voted on 357 00:26:03,759 --> 00:26:08,880 the transgender bill. And you get every single Democrat voting against the bill that 358 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:15,039 would say boys playing boys sports, girls playing girls sports. Every single Republican 359 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,240 voted for it, every single Democrat voted against it. That tells you your 360 00:26:18,319 --> 00:26:23,440 system's broken, because don't tell me there's not one Republican that has a transgender 361 00:26:23,519 --> 00:26:27,160 nephew or niece and things that should be right and should vote that way. 362 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:32,720 And don't don't tell me there's not one Democrat out of two hundred and two 363 00:26:32,839 --> 00:26:37,039 or whatever it was that all voted no, doesn't have a daughter playing competitive 364 00:26:37,079 --> 00:26:41,799 sports. That that doesn't feel like, you know, guys should be playing 365 00:26:41,519 --> 00:26:48,519 transgender children should be playing amongst amongst women as girls. So which is you 366 00:26:48,519 --> 00:26:51,960 know, a hot button right now in the market and in the media these 367 00:26:52,039 --> 00:26:56,440 days. But I know that just tells you the system's broken, you know 368 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,000 what I mean. If it was if it was two hundred and twelve, 369 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:06,720 it was one ninety and twenty four dissenting for Republicans and one eighty and twenty 370 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,599 seven four or whatever the number. You know, then you say, all 371 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,119 right, well, everybody has their opinion, and you come up with a 372 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:17,960 vote. But to be split just tells you that our government's not thinking for 373 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,160 themselves. They're doing whatever they think is best for their their party, and 374 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,759 no matter which way the vote goes, you know what I mean, Well, 375 00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:30,079 the system anyway, Based on that, the system has always been broken. 376 00:27:30,079 --> 00:27:33,960 There's always been party line votes on them, and most most votes are 377 00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:37,400 party line. I agree, But I just don't find my question to add 378 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:42,200 to your pretty good subject here is um is, what's the answer? How 379 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:47,240 do we how do we stem this tide of craziness going on on the internet 380 00:27:48,079 --> 00:27:52,000 where and there's also the people luring children into you know what I mean, 381 00:27:52,079 --> 00:27:56,160 going after those young kids they're a little bit vulnerable and saying hey, meet 382 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,480 me here, and that type of thing. And so there's more. There's 383 00:28:00,519 --> 00:28:04,119 more things I think do you think are going wrong on the internet. I'm 384 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,000 not an expert either, so I don't know. Sure some of your listeners 385 00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:11,920 can help us out, all right, Mike, Well anyways, that's it. 386 00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:14,880 Yeah, just I know how what's the answer. I guess it's a 387 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,000 question, But good subject though. All right, Mike, thank you, 388 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,519 I appreciate the call. Talk all right, take care, bye bye. 389 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,519 All right, that was our friend Mike Doyle, that does open up line 390 00:28:22,519 --> 00:28:26,880 for you six zo three two five six zero seven six three two five six 391 00:28:27,559 --> 00:28:32,920 seven and uh, our friend Shannon is on the line. High Shannon, 392 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,519 Yes, I am. How are you good? How are you kidding? 393 00:28:38,279 --> 00:28:41,839 Off? Off the subject? Can I go out of let's go for a 394 00:28:41,839 --> 00:28:44,920 second, for a brief second. I really don't want to get I don't 395 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,200 want to get sidetracked. So don't you won't retrospectrum? Yep, poly see. 396 00:28:49,799 --> 00:28:55,640 I wanted to be Christine Cagney when I grew up, and there was 397 00:28:56,119 --> 00:28:57,960 no I don't know. This is aging myself, but there is a show. 398 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,519 Do you Are you familiar with his name? Nope? No idea who 399 00:29:02,519 --> 00:29:07,440 that is? And lay okay, yep, it was a instrumental I remember 400 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,680 it. I never watched it, but I remember the show. Yeah it 401 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,279 was. It was a big, big show. I can't call into retrospect 402 00:29:14,359 --> 00:29:18,640 him because I don't know why. Well, Paul, Paul doesn't usually take 403 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,279 calls. Only once in a while does he take calls. It's a pretty 404 00:29:21,799 --> 00:29:26,359 he's taken mind rightly. Well, I don't know. I don't call anymore. 405 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,559 Maybe I call it to let you know I'm listening too. It's my 406 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,079 way of saying, I'm not in the Facebook, but I'm listening. Oh 407 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,240 well, we appreciate that, Shannon. Okay, all right, all right, 408 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,000 thank you you too. I remember Cagney and Lacy. I never never 409 00:29:38,039 --> 00:29:41,799 really watched it, but I do remember it. Um No, But getting 410 00:29:41,839 --> 00:29:44,319 back to what Mike was saying, I would just say, I think, 411 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,880 um, yeah, I mean, there's there's a lot of bad things that 412 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:52,680 go on the Internet, and but law enforcement does a lot too. You 413 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,160 can never do enough, it's impossible, but law enforcement does a lot to 414 00:29:56,519 --> 00:30:00,119 protect kids. UM. For example, and this has been going on for 415 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,880 as long as I can remember. Uh, law enforcement will send um, 416 00:30:06,319 --> 00:30:11,759 send uh police uh into uh you know, into chat rooms online and pose 417 00:30:11,839 --> 00:30:18,880 as children, um and make contact with someone that they think might be harming 418 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,799 kids. I don't really want to say anything. I don't even like thinking 419 00:30:21,839 --> 00:30:26,680 about that stuff. It's so awful. But anyway, but to try to, 420 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,559 you know, as a staying operation, to try to get somebody who's 421 00:30:29,559 --> 00:30:32,839 doing that, try to try to you know, like, um, remember 422 00:30:32,839 --> 00:30:36,039 what was that show to Catch a Predator? You know that kind of thing. 423 00:30:36,559 --> 00:30:38,880 Um, you know, law enforcement does that online. Sometimes there's there's 424 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,000 a lot that law enforcement does. Uh. Like I said, they can 425 00:30:42,039 --> 00:30:47,519 never do enough. But we only have so much law enforcement resources to go 426 00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:51,319 around and um, you know, and and parents of course can always do 427 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,960 more. Um. Not that I don't want to sound like um um slamming 428 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,559 parents either though. Listen, Honestly, I mean, we live in a 429 00:30:56,599 --> 00:31:00,599 world where you know, a lot of um, a lot of households only 430 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,720 have one parent. There's a lot of single mothers and some single dads too, 431 00:31:03,759 --> 00:31:07,440 and you know sometimes uh uh you know, you're you got to work 432 00:31:07,519 --> 00:31:11,880 multiple jobs, and you know, you can't just to get by really just 433 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,839 to provide for your family, and you can't be there for your kids as 434 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,000 much as you'd like to. There's always, um, there's always economic pressures 435 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,640 with that. Um. That's one of the reasons I never wanted to There's 436 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,839 a number of reasons I never wanted to have children myself, and that that 437 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,599 is one of them. That's a big one. You just see economic pressure. 438 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,279 Um. But uh, you know, But but I I don't. 439 00:31:33,599 --> 00:31:37,480 But I don't think the government making laws about this is uh is the answer 440 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,279 at all. But like I said to Mike too, also, I don't 441 00:31:40,279 --> 00:31:42,319 see a lot of kids on Like when I go on Facebook or Instagram, 442 00:31:42,319 --> 00:31:45,119 I don't see a lot of children on there. So again I think this 443 00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:52,319 bill, if you're just joining us, we're talking about this bipartisan bill in 444 00:31:52,359 --> 00:31:56,640 the Senate that would ban kids under thirteen from joining social media. Up. 445 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,519 Crystal, our friend from Illinois, joins us in the chairman and says hello 446 00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:04,240 everyone. Scott Robinson says, Mike, you just made an excellent point. 447 00:32:04,279 --> 00:32:07,880 I couldn't agree with you more. I'll be thinking about oh, all they're 448 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,559 thinking, oh, I'm sorry. All they're thinking about is their donors. 449 00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:15,079 Scott might be using voice to text. But yeah, I mean that's what 450 00:32:16,039 --> 00:32:19,240 Well, that's what I was saying too, you know, with a bill 451 00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:22,119 like this, which again I think is probably a solution in search of a 452 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,920 problem, because I just don't think there are are a lot of kids are 453 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,839 on social media, and even if there are, again it should be up 454 00:32:28,839 --> 00:32:31,880 to the parents, not the government, whether they can be on social media. 455 00:32:32,039 --> 00:32:36,200 But like I said, this looks great. This is a kind of 456 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,759 thing. This is exactly the kind of thing that looks great in a campaign 457 00:32:38,839 --> 00:32:44,000 ad when you're running for reelection. So there you go, because that's what 458 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:49,519 obviously that's what our elected lawgivers and overlords are actually concerned with. Melanie Law 459 00:32:49,559 --> 00:32:52,039 Liberty from the Great State of Vermont joins us in the chat and says, 460 00:32:52,079 --> 00:32:55,839 hey, guys, so yeah, the two things. I so, I 461 00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:00,880 have three big problems with this bill. Well, let me give the studio 462 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:06,039 line again. Six three two five six seven six three two five six seven. 463 00:33:06,279 --> 00:33:07,599 I have two big problems. I have three big problems with this bill. 464 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:12,319 I'm sorry, I already enumerated the first two. Number one, I 465 00:33:12,359 --> 00:33:16,079 don't like the government getting involved in regulating social media makes me very concerned or 466 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:22,839 the Internet in a broader sense beyond the bare minimum that is necessary. And 467 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:27,039 uh. And the second problem is this is something that parents should be deciding, 468 00:33:27,119 --> 00:33:31,920 not the government. And the third is enforcement. I don't see how 469 00:33:32,039 --> 00:33:36,759 this is enforceable. Now, there is something in here about age verification, 470 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,359 and we'll look at it when we get to the to the heart of the 471 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:43,039 matter here with the bill itself and this article. But you know, as 472 00:33:43,119 --> 00:33:46,799 it stands right now, anybody can go on social media and put in whatever 473 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:53,359 birthdate they want to. There's not an age verification system. Do you want 474 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:59,559 an age verification system? Do you want to have to If you say you're 475 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:04,880 creating in a profile on Instagram, do you want to have to sit there 476 00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:08,599 and take photographs of official documents with your date of birth on it, like 477 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:13,679 your driver's license, and then have to submit that upload that to the social 478 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:19,880 media site before you can get your account. Come on, I don't think 479 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:24,239 that's gonna fly. Americans aren't going to go for that. Where it's now 480 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:30,599 a process that they have to go through to prove their age to be able 481 00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:37,079 to get on social media. That's just not going to fly. And because 482 00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:39,480 that's not going to fly, that means you'll never be able to actually have 483 00:34:39,559 --> 00:34:44,639 an enforcement mechanism to do this, so it's not enforceable. And even if 484 00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:49,159 you do have enforcement mechanisms, and even if the law says that this is 485 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,559 going to be enforced, well, so then what happens. Let's say you 486 00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:55,800 have a twelve year old and you allow them to get on social media, 487 00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:00,679 whether they do it honestly or whether they have to fudge something, which, 488 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:01,960 like I said, right now, you can put in whatever day to birth 489 00:35:02,039 --> 00:35:06,480 you want. So you let your kid, You let your twelve year old 490 00:35:06,559 --> 00:35:09,000 who you think is mature and responsible enough to be on social media. You 491 00:35:09,159 --> 00:35:15,440 let them on and somebody somewhere in law enforcement finds out, well, this 492 00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:17,360 is a lot, this has been made law. Oh you just broke the 493 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,599 law. You allowed your twelve year old. Are they going to come and 494 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,599 arrest you? Are you going to prison because you let your twelve year old 495 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:28,519 have a Facebook account or an Instagram account? Is that where we're going with 496 00:35:28,679 --> 00:35:32,880 this? That's nuts If that's where we're going with this, or what if 497 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,679 you didn't know about it? What if they did it? Beyond what if 498 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,159 your kid does it behind your back? Right, and then you got to 499 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:43,719 knock at the door one day an officer friendly is here to take you away 500 00:35:44,559 --> 00:35:49,599 because you're twelve year old without your knowledge, created at a Snapchat account, 501 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,360 right, this is this is crazy town we're going to with this. So 502 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,800 again, I absolutely object to this. That's my third big problem with it. 503 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,360 Crystal and the Chat says, part of the problem is today's kids are 504 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,519 more technology advanced than their parents, and certainly more than the government is agreed 505 00:36:08,599 --> 00:36:14,599 one hundred percent. They've had hearings in Congress and they had to explain basics 506 00:36:14,679 --> 00:36:19,159 to congressmen who had no clue that's what I was talking about earlier. The 507 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,320 government has historically been behind the times in creation of laws when it comes to 508 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:29,480 the Internet, instead of keeping pace with recognizing issues or legalities. Also true, 509 00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:34,079 do you really want aging congressmen who have no idea on social media or 510 00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:47,360 computers in general to Oh, sorry, I'm sorry, Crystal, the chat 511 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,639 room got busy and I lost your comment. Okay, here we go. 512 00:36:52,039 --> 00:36:57,440 They've had hearings in Congress and they had to explain basics to congressmen who had 513 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,599 no clue. The government has been historically behind the times in terms of creation 514 00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:04,639 of laws and when it comes to the Internet, instead of keeping pace with 515 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,400 recognizing issues or legalities, you really want Asian congressmen who have no idea on 516 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:14,679 social media or computers in general to determine what everyone does? Great points, 517 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:20,840 Crystal. Absolutely. Mel mcmel joins us in the Facebook live chat and says 518 00:37:21,039 --> 00:37:25,679 what people make fake accounts? Believe it or not, Mel mcmel, if 519 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:30,039 that is your real name, I have several of them. By the way, 520 00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:34,400 I have several secret identities. I think most people do, and you 521 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,880 should. You should always have at least one burner account so if you get 522 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,039 suspended, not that our friend mel mcmell would know anything about that. But 523 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,679 if something happens, if you break a rule on social media, you can 524 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:51,360 still get access to social media. Always have a burner account. Crystal also 525 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:57,320 says in the chat room, there are literally senators who have no idea how 526 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,519 to make a tuna sandwich. Remember during the pandemic, Kamala Harris, as 527 00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:04,239 a senator at that time, had to teach one of her colleagues how to 528 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,119 make a tuna sandwich. He always put his in the micro Oh. Gross, 529 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:13,599 that's disgusting. Yeah, it's that's why I say I don't want again, 530 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,239 not sound agues, but I don't want ninety year old Congressman Chuck Grassley 531 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:22,800 from Iowa or ninety year old Diane Feinstein from California making decisions about how we 532 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:30,679 use the internet. It's not okay. Melanie says, I know, right, 533 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,119 that is crazy. Crystal says, my cat buddy had a Twitter account. 534 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,400 Yeah, that's the thing. I mean. Look, yes, pets 535 00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:42,320 sometimes have social media accounts. We're gonna let pets have social media accounts, 536 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,159 but your kid, who happens to be under thirteen can't have one. That 537 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:54,000 is an outrage. Although I think former Senator Rick Santorum once said that if 538 00:38:54,039 --> 00:38:59,440 you allow what did he say something about, if you allow kids have social 539 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,760 media accoun sexting, you know, dogs will want to have them too. 540 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,800 No, I'm sorry, that's not what he said. It was something very 541 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:12,599 different but equally absurd and pretty nuts. Anyway, if you know, you 542 00:39:12,679 --> 00:39:15,880 know, If you don't, don't worry about it. Six zo three two 543 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:21,760 five six seven. As a studio line six two five six seven. Let's 544 00:39:22,039 --> 00:39:24,719 get into the details, my friends again. This is from wired dot com. 545 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,760 The title of the article is a US bill would band kids under thirteen 546 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:34,840 from joining social media. The legislation would insert the government government into online platforms 547 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:39,920 age verification efforts, a move that makes some US lawmakers squeezy and again makes 548 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:46,320 yours truly very very queasy, says here. A new bipartisan federal proposal introduced 549 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:51,639 in the US Senate today would set a national age limit for using social media, 550 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:58,400 effectively banning anyone under twelve and under from using the apps many children currently 551 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:04,280 spend hours a day on. There are countless efforts floating around Capitol Hill aimed 552 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,199 at safeguarding the nation's children from the dangers of social media, but This new 553 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:14,480 measure, known as the Protecting Kids on Social Media Act, takes aim at 554 00:40:14,519 --> 00:40:19,199 the algorithms Silicon Valley employees to keep kids on their sites. Specifically, it 555 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:23,639 bars children under thirteen from creating accounts on social media apps, which also greatly 556 00:40:24,119 --> 00:40:29,920 while also greatly retailing the algorithms tech companies could deploy on people between thirteen and 557 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:35,800 seventeen years old. Users under thirteen would still be able to view online content 558 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:42,960 provided they aren't logged into an account. Okay, so while with some things 559 00:40:43,039 --> 00:40:45,400 that wouldn't work obviously you have to log in, but YouTube you can use 560 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:51,559 without logging in. The bill would also require a parental consent before anyone under 561 00:40:51,639 --> 00:40:57,320 eighteen could create a profile. Aha, that's just more nanny state non really 562 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:02,760 so serious. I didn't even know that was in here. So a seventeen 563 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:07,000 year old wants to make a Facebook account, they have to get permission from 564 00:41:07,079 --> 00:41:12,480 mommy or daddy. That's nuts. I'm sorry, this is not going to 565 00:41:12,559 --> 00:41:17,400 fly. By the way, if you don't know what algorithms are, and 566 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,400 I think most people probably do at this point, but an algorithm, so 567 00:41:21,679 --> 00:41:25,519 when you're on say you're on YouTube, the algorithm learns what content you want 568 00:41:25,559 --> 00:41:30,079 to see. Algorithms are very dangerous in a sense but also necessary. They're 569 00:41:30,159 --> 00:41:35,199 dangerous, well the dangerous isn't the right word, but they are harmful in 570 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:42,519 the sense that I believe algorithms have contributed to the polarization politically in this country 571 00:41:42,599 --> 00:41:45,960 because so say you're on YouTube and you look at a lot of liberal content 572 00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:50,199 on YouTube, the algorithm is going to learn that's what you want, and 573 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:57,199 in the suggestions that YouTube makes, they're going to keep suggesting. They're going 574 00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:01,199 to serve up, to use the correct terminology, more liberal content, because 575 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:06,719 the algorithm is learning that's what you like. If you're a conservative and you 576 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,079 sample a lot of conservative content, the algorithm is going to learn that's what 577 00:42:10,199 --> 00:42:14,760 you like to look at and is going to begin to serve up consistently conservative 578 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:19,119 content. On the one hand, I think this is harmful because it has 579 00:42:19,199 --> 00:42:25,480 contributed to the politicisa, yeah, politicization and of social media and the polarization 580 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:30,559 politically in the country. However, on the other hand, I don't know 581 00:42:30,679 --> 00:42:37,679 how to solve that because while the algorithms do contribute to that, you do 582 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:42,760 want, as a consumer, anything that you use, any service that you 583 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:49,440 use social media or anything if the service is going to be actively suggesting to 584 00:42:49,559 --> 00:42:53,960 you more things that you might like. Forget social media. What about Amazon. 585 00:42:54,039 --> 00:43:00,000 If you're shopping on Amazon, you know, the algorithm notices your purchase 586 00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:06,840 history, notices products that you've looked at previously, and then suggests more products 587 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,639 for you that you might like based on that. So algorithms are good in 588 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:17,079 that sense. You want anything anything that is giving you content or suggesting products 589 00:43:17,159 --> 00:43:22,679 for you to buy, or services for you to buy, or investments for 590 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,199 you to make, or whatever it is, right, you want that service 591 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:30,880 to show you things, present you with options that you would probably like. 592 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:36,840 So it makes perfect sense to have these algorithms. You wouldn't want to not 593 00:43:37,079 --> 00:43:45,000 have them. The downside is, though, it does help reinforce those echo 594 00:43:45,159 --> 00:43:50,880 chambers that people like to exist in, where you know, you don't have 595 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:55,000 to be exposed to anything that for example, politically on YouTube, if you're 596 00:43:55,039 --> 00:44:00,440 watching political YouTube videos, you don't have to worry about being exposed anything that 597 00:44:00,519 --> 00:44:06,880 might conflict with your ideology or challenge. You're already deep seated beliefs because you're 598 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:13,239 only being served content that reinforces all of that. Um So, so that's 599 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,760 a problem I don't know what the solution of that is. You've got to 600 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,639 have algorithms. The services don't work without algorithms. It doesn't make sense to 601 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,719 not have them. But having them does come with a price. It it 602 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:30,599 uh, it chips away at our critical thinking skills and and it reinforces. 603 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:35,119 Um are the echo chambers in which we live and these uh you know, 604 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:45,159 the this uh hyperpartisan ideological way that Americans like to think about everything political and 605 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:49,679 even things that are not necessarily political. So I don't know what to do 606 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:58,119 about that, um, Crystal says in the chat room, it was Mark 607 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:05,440 Warner who kamalaiti kamalaita to make the make a tuna sandwich. Oh God, 608 00:45:06,519 --> 00:45:10,079 well, God bless her for helping him. I guess that's that's good. 609 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,880 You don't want to put that in the microwave. That s that's disgusting. 610 00:45:15,519 --> 00:45:16,679 Like I don't know how to cook anything the Geni'll tell you, I don't 611 00:45:16,679 --> 00:45:21,199 know how to cook anything, but uh, but I know better than to 612 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,679 do that. That's gross. Let's see. It says here to ensure preteens 613 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:30,559 and children don't create social media profiles, the bill would also create This isn't 614 00:45:30,599 --> 00:45:36,000 gonna see nobody's gonna go for this. You think this. Listen, we 615 00:45:36,119 --> 00:45:38,400 talked on the show. I don't know what ended up happening. By the 616 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:43,159 way, with this, I guess nothing's going to happen. But remember we 617 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,800 were talking on the show. We did for multiple days. It was a 618 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:52,119 pretty hot issue briefly, TikTok, possibly banning TikTok, the government banning TikTok. 619 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,440 We don't hear anything about it anymore. So I guess that's been forgotten 620 00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:00,880 about. I don't know, but but I at the time I said, 621 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,400 I don't think Americans are going to go for the government banning a very popular 622 00:46:04,519 --> 00:46:07,679 social media app unless you make the case and convince Americans that there is a 623 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:14,639 legitimate national security threat. You've got to convince us. I'm not even on 624 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,960 TikTok, but I just say us, as in America, you've got to 625 00:46:19,039 --> 00:46:24,079 convince us that there is a very good reason for why, for the first 626 00:46:24,119 --> 00:46:30,639 time in American history, you would actually ban a social media app that is 627 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:37,000 enormously popular, that is used by something like one hundred twenty million Americans, 628 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:43,000 some huge number, more than a hundred million Americans on TikTok and because if 629 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,199 you don't make the case, it's not gonna fly. You're gonna have an 630 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:50,679 uprising over this. For real, it's a social media site, but you 631 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,760 know, but there are larger implications. You can just say, well, 632 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,920 it's a social media site. Who cares as others, but there are broader 633 00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:00,880 implications. If you're going to allow the government to tell you how you can 634 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:07,639 and cannot communicate what social media sites you can and cannot use, that opens 635 00:47:07,679 --> 00:47:13,119 a can of worms, a pretty big one. But this isn't going to 636 00:47:13,199 --> 00:47:16,000 fly either. What's here? I want to start this paragraph again. I 637 00:47:16,079 --> 00:47:22,880 want to make sure that I'm understanding correctly what this bill would do to ensure 638 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,719 preteens and children don't create social media profiles. The bill would also create a 639 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:35,199 government run age verification program overseen by the Department of Commerce. A I'll tell 640 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:39,000 you what if section two thirty. If' appealing section to thirty doesn't kill social 641 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:44,679 social media, this will, this will. No one is going to tolerate 642 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:52,320 this. A government run age verification system that you have to go through to 643 00:47:52,440 --> 00:48:01,159 set up your Instagram account not gonna fly. The system would require children and 644 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:08,719 their parents to upload identification to prove their age. While legislation does not mandate 645 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:15,960 that companies use the government system, it would nevertheless represent a significant expansion of 646 00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:24,719 the government's role in the online ecosystem. Let me tell you what will happen 647 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:30,599 if this becomes law and is actually enforced. You're going to see more platforms 648 00:48:30,679 --> 00:48:35,559 like TikTok. What do I mean by that? You're going to see more 649 00:48:35,679 --> 00:48:42,119 platforms that are not based in the United States that are able to connect with 650 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:47,000 Americans without necessarily adhering to American law. Now, I suppose the government can 651 00:48:47,079 --> 00:48:52,000 just ban those as they pop up. But if they're popping up to serve 652 00:48:52,039 --> 00:48:58,840 a need, because Americans are pretty angry at having to upload a picture of 653 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:04,519 their driver's license to get a social media account, this is going to create 654 00:49:04,639 --> 00:49:09,800 much larger problems and it solves. I'm telling you, let's see it. 655 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:15,920 Says here, Oh Crystal says uh. Now, Matt as Hollin Oates playing 656 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,960 in his head. I can't go for that. I always have Hollin Oates 657 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,079 playing in my head. We have a call. Hi, welcome to Matt 658 00:49:23,119 --> 00:49:30,679 Connerton unleashed. Who's this uh? Mark Connor, Yes, yes it is. 659 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:38,239 Who's this? Is this? Connor? Macconnor. What what what is 660 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:45,039 this? This is a very familiar voice. He's kind of mumbling corn don 661 00:49:45,159 --> 00:49:51,719 Armor is calling from Burger Don. The ghost of don Imus is on the 662 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,639 line. Oh my god, this is amazing. Gone arms calling from from 663 00:49:55,679 --> 00:50:00,960 Purga. You're still in purgatory? How long you have to see? That's 664 00:50:01,039 --> 00:50:05,679 that's crazy. Uh, this is I will say though, this is an 665 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,679 honor, sir. I mean, I don't think you were a good person 666 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,719 when you were here on earth, and you were kind of a pos to 667 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:15,320 a lot of people and said some terrible things. But you are a radio 668 00:50:15,519 --> 00:50:19,039 legend. And uh, I am talking to your ghost. So this is 669 00:50:19,119 --> 00:50:22,559 quite a moment. Well last year, I are talking to me. I 670 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:28,840 could really are just got arrested and they have sad me or virger So you 671 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,400 so you uh you so you've been arrested. Tell me they tell me. 672 00:50:32,519 --> 00:50:36,719 I'm glad they called me. I'm glad they put me in the ground. 673 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:42,159 Are here in the very But I don't feel dead man, Darren. I'm 674 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,880 I'm alive. I keep telling them, I keep telling them I'm alive. 675 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,840 They will want to come back. I will say this, don Imus, 676 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,400 you sound you do sound more alive to me now than you did at any 677 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,760 point in the last five or six years that you were actually on the radio. 678 00:50:59,639 --> 00:51:00,760 But I thank you, Mat, thank you. And you sound more 679 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,519 lies than our red fan. You know, we get you our show over 680 00:51:04,599 --> 00:51:09,360 Aaron Purgadore. You say you are, say purgatory right, Just let me 681 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:13,320 make sure you're in the Margayry. Yes, I'm sorry. I'm eating right 682 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,079 now. I'm having lunch right now. But you say you say you're not 683 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:21,400 actually dead, So are you in? Are you just buried somewhere in purgatory, 684 00:51:21,519 --> 00:51:22,599 Texas? And they won't let you out? Is that what's going on? 685 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:30,280 No, I'm actually here in the purgatory, first class, here by 686 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:34,960 the FU first class here to purgatory, and it's a nice day here. 687 00:51:35,559 --> 00:51:38,480 I think I am dead. Actually, they don't tell me I'm dead, 688 00:51:38,599 --> 00:51:44,280 but I don't feel dead right right right. You brought me in a room, 689 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,159 they questioned me for three hours. They told me I'm dead. They 690 00:51:46,199 --> 00:51:50,519 hadn't re signed some favorite work, Matt. And I'm here now in purgatory. 691 00:51:51,639 --> 00:51:53,679 It's an undisclosed amount of time that I'm going to be here, but 692 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,400 it should be soon that I'll be going to heaven. Matt, that's very 693 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,599 exciting. Well, are you sure he does everyone in your donkey cock mat? 694 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,360 That sounds familiar. I think I think you might have asked me that 695 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,639 once before when I called into your show many years ago. Wow, how's 696 00:52:10,679 --> 00:52:19,519 my donkey con It's great? So a very important question. Do you get 697 00:52:19,559 --> 00:52:22,079 to uh do you get to continue to wear your cowboy hat in purgatory? 698 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:29,159 Told man, I shouldn't call in until we have some racial I mean, 699 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,840 this is our first time talk. I've never spoken to the ghost of don 700 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:36,079 Imus before. I'm only work. We're gonna do the man, you and 701 00:52:36,199 --> 00:52:38,639 I when I come down and here the flying from progreg Card. We're gonna 702 00:52:38,679 --> 00:52:43,239 sit down, I'm gonna write some mercurial and we're gonna think of some funny 703 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,880 thanks for me to say. That's great. It'll be just like your back 704 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:51,840 on the rate. It'll be just like your back at u w ABC or 705 00:52:52,039 --> 00:52:58,280 I'm sorry w NBC. Oh you're very sick. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 706 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,559 it'll be like your back home. Well that's right, because you know, 707 00:53:00,679 --> 00:53:06,760 how was your donkey Kong to get really old? Really? Yes, 708 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,800 I think at some point you would stopped saying that later in your career, 709 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:14,079 probably around the time that you started copying Howard Stern trying to be more like 710 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,199 him. Oh wow, true. Yeah, so even in death, you're 711 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:21,599 still upset with Howard Stern. I don't like Howard. He took a l 712 00:53:23,039 --> 00:53:27,800 well he uh, he had glowing things to say about you when you passed 713 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,119 away. You know about a lot of people mistake of me from Larry's Flynn. 714 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,280 Yes, yes, I know. I know someone who thinks you sound 715 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,960 like him. I think you sound like don iMOS. That's how I figured 716 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:44,400 out that it was the ghost of don iMOS. Than well, thank him, 717 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,880 right, yeah, this is the ghost of h don Imus, say 718 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,599 Larry Flynn, this is the ghost of Don Imris checking out right, you 719 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,840 have a great joy. I love yourself, all right, thank you? 720 00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,920 Well, very nice? All right, wow, the ghost of don i'man 721 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:01,679 that was wonderful. Now how does that work? Now? He says he's 722 00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:06,360 in purgatory. But does that mean he definitely goes to heaven? Because if 723 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,039 you go to hell, you go. I see, I'm not. I 724 00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:12,000 haven't been to church in a while, much to the chagrin of my dad. 725 00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:15,360 But I think the deal is. I do remember learning about purgatory in 726 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:21,320 school Catholic school. I think the deal is, if you go to purgatory, 727 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,599 you go there to burn off your sins and then you get to go 728 00:54:23,679 --> 00:54:25,880 to heaven. But if you go to hell, you go straight to hell, 729 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,519 I think, right, because that would be that wouldn't be very fair, 730 00:54:29,639 --> 00:54:31,800 right, if you go to purgatory and then you're thinking, no, 731 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:37,480 cool, I'm in purgatory. Maybe next I get to go climb that ladder 732 00:54:37,559 --> 00:54:39,960 over there and get to heaven, and then it turns out no, you 733 00:54:40,079 --> 00:54:43,559 just fall into the pit of hell. That would be That would be terrible. 734 00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:47,320 That would be insult to injury, am I right? So so I 735 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:51,760 hope don Imus. But he's been dead for years now, at least a 736 00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,199 couple of years, right, So he's been in purgatory a long time, 737 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,880 A long time. Wow, don Imus, Well that was that was a 738 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,719 radio legend. My friends, we've made radio history here. Today. We're 739 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:07,360 going to uh very shortly, we're gonna get Derek Pilcher's classic film review. 740 00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,000 But I do want to finish up on this article. But also if you'd 741 00:55:09,079 --> 00:55:13,440 like to call in if you have any thoughts on this or on the ghost 742 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,079 of don Imus. Oh, actually we have a call. Well, we'll 743 00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:21,000 see who this is. Hi, welcome to Matt Connerton. Unleash. Who's 744 00:55:21,079 --> 00:55:25,400 this? Nay, Matt, it's poly Oh policy from Retro Spectrum Radio with 745 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:30,039 police. How are you? I'm doing well. I just wanted to, 746 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:34,480 uh, let you know that DJ Steve will not be joining us tonight. 747 00:55:34,599 --> 00:55:40,400 He's a little under the weather. So we will be joined by Dan Randall's 748 00:55:40,599 --> 00:55:45,599 stand in, Ron Laplume. Ah, tonight, the part of Dan Randall 749 00:55:45,639 --> 00:55:50,519 of Dan Randall and the Ramletts will be played by Ron la Plume. That 750 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,039 is correct. He will be joining us tonight. Well, kid, so 751 00:55:53,079 --> 00:55:58,400 it'll be you and I and Ron Laplume and DJ Steve will be calling in 752 00:55:58,519 --> 00:56:01,039 at nine to play then him at nine at nine. Oh wonderful. I 753 00:56:01,039 --> 00:56:05,559 haven't seen Ron in a while. What about Mike from Queen City Cabinetry? 754 00:56:05,639 --> 00:56:09,519 Is he still Mike injured? Mike sent me a message about an hour ago 755 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:15,039 promising, promising that he will be back next week. Okay, well, 756 00:56:15,159 --> 00:56:17,840 very good. Well we look forward to seeing him then. But yeah, 757 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:22,719 it'll be great to see Ron tonight. Excellent. Yeah, yeah, all 758 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:28,599 right, I'll see you at eight o'clock. All right, sounds good. 759 00:56:28,599 --> 00:56:31,239 Paul. We'll see you then, all right, ye bye bye, all 760 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:36,480 right. That was our friend Paul See from Retrospectrum Radio with Police tonight from 761 00:56:36,519 --> 00:56:39,360 eight to eleven pm. And we will be joined by the great ron Leplume. 762 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:45,880 That'll be fun. Uh oh, yes, Mike says, yes. 763 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:52,360 He will definitely be here next week. He says, uh oh. It's 764 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,239 like going straight to jail in monopoly, when you go straight to hell. 765 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,639 DJ Seve is in the chat room. He enjoyed the call from the Ghosts 766 00:56:58,639 --> 00:57:05,159 of don iMOS. All right, well, let's finish up this article so 767 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,400 it says you're so again. This is about the bill to ban anyone under 768 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:13,320 A thirteen from social media. As such, the bill could upend the Internet 769 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:17,760 as we know it by adding substantial government oversight over social media platforms. The 770 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:25,039 bipartisan legislations being met with bipartisan skepticism. Yes, it has both bipartisan support 771 00:57:25,039 --> 00:57:31,960 and bipartisan skepticism. Senator Tina Smith, a Minnesota Democrat, said, quote, 772 00:57:32,239 --> 00:57:36,159 we kind of went through this when Tipper Gore was trying to ban music 773 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:42,000 for some people. Unquote. That's a good way of that's a good observation. 774 00:57:42,199 --> 00:57:46,519 Yes, the legislation's sponsors are offended by the comparison. In fact, 775 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:53,719 they say their proposal purposely avoids content altogether. Chris Murphy, Connecticut Democrat, 776 00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:58,559 says, quote, Let's be clear, this bill is completely content neutral. 777 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:05,400 All it says is that you cannot build a purposely, a purposefully addictive program 778 00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:13,679 that leads especially vulnerable children down deep, dark rabbit holes. Unquote. M 779 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:21,920 That's not a convincing argument to me. The broadly bipartisan effort also showcases the 780 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,360 pressure ratcheting up on party leaders by rank and file lawmakers on both sides of 781 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:30,119 the aisle, who are demanding Congress to act to protect children after years of 782 00:58:30,159 --> 00:58:36,559 watching similar efforts dither. Yeah. Well, the reason similar efforts dithered is 783 00:58:36,639 --> 00:58:38,679 because you know, you got to come up with an actual good idea. 784 00:58:39,719 --> 00:58:42,599 Who am I kidding? You don't have to come up with a good idea 785 00:58:42,639 --> 00:58:45,559 for politicians to pass it into law. That's not what I mean. But 786 00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,840 but but there is. You know, when it comes to the Internet and 787 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:55,039 social media, there does seem to be dithering. Freshman Senator I just like 788 00:58:55,159 --> 00:59:01,599 that word. Freshman Senator Katie Britt and Alabama were publican ran as a mama 789 00:59:01,719 --> 00:59:06,440 on a mission quote unquote, and says this is a personal issue to her 790 00:59:06,599 --> 00:59:09,400 and others. Britt says, quote, bringing the issues that we talk about 791 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:14,559 as parents in the home with our friends, we watch unfold before us in 792 00:59:14,639 --> 00:59:19,840 our schools and our communities. That's what we're here to do, is to 793 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:25,079 bring that voice, the voice of parents. Unquote. I'm not even sure 794 00:59:25,159 --> 00:59:30,239 what that meant. That was a kind of a little bit of a word 795 00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:34,280 salad there. I mean, if you're trying to bring the voice of parents, 796 00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:40,320 how about letting the parents have their own voice instead of the government deciding 797 00:59:42,039 --> 00:59:46,880 what their kids can have access to and what they can't. They're Katie Britt, 798 00:59:47,639 --> 00:59:54,679 you Alabama Republican sounds like a rhino to me. Again, I'm half 799 00:59:54,760 --> 01:00:01,199 kidding. As to whether their me measure could stifle the next generation of tech 800 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:07,159 entrepreneurs, Britt says, the opposite is the case. Quote, that's what 801 01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,039 we're fighting for. You want our kids to be healthy and prepared to achieve 802 01:00:10,119 --> 01:00:19,199 their American dream unquote. There's a real disconnect here. Nothing Okay, great, 803 01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:27,679 Yeah, I agree, and this helps them how Arkansas Senator Tom Cotton 804 01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:31,360 is the other Republican author on the Democratic side, Senator Murphy of Connecticut is 805 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:37,360 joined by Brian Schatz of Hawaii as a lead sponsor. All four are young 806 01:00:37,719 --> 01:00:43,199 in Senate terms at least, and all have young children. Well, well, 807 01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,920 yeah, keep your keep your kids off of there, and then if 808 01:00:45,159 --> 01:00:51,679 you're worried about it, but don't punish the rest of the country. While 809 01:00:51,719 --> 01:00:57,119 all the major Silicon Valley social media firms from Instagram to TikTok say they block 810 01:00:57,239 --> 01:01:01,719 children from using their apps, these senators say those efforts have failed. Schatz 811 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:06,760 says, quote, it's not working. There's no free speech right to be 812 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:10,800 jammed with an algorithm that makes you upset, and these algorithms are making us 813 01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:15,960 increasingly polarized and disparaging and depressed and angry at each other. And it's bad 814 01:01:16,119 --> 01:01:21,079 enough that it's happening to all of us adults. The least we can do 815 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:25,239 is protect our kids. This hits on something with me. Okay, so 816 01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:30,519 let's look at this again. Let's look at what he said. There's no 817 01:01:30,639 --> 01:01:34,639 free speech right to be jammed with an algorithm that makes you upset, and 818 01:01:34,719 --> 01:01:38,239 these algorithms are making us increasingly polarized and disparaging and depressed and angry at each 819 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:49,480 other. How convenient blame social media. Blame social media. Right, If 820 01:01:49,559 --> 01:01:52,880 these kids are running into this, it's the fault of social media, so 821 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:55,559 we have to do something about it. Right. We can't just blame Oh, 822 01:01:55,599 --> 01:02:02,440 I don't know ourselves, do We not, as adults create the world 823 01:02:02,679 --> 01:02:08,480 that our children have to grow up in. The reason see a lot of 824 01:02:08,519 --> 01:02:15,159 people get this wrong. I feel people blame social media, talk about how 825 01:02:15,239 --> 01:02:19,599 awful social media is, how it's a sesspool of negativity and hate, and 826 01:02:19,719 --> 01:02:21,599 by the way, a lot of it is, and a lot of it's 827 01:02:21,639 --> 01:02:23,559 not. A lot of it is wonderful and good and positive. It's all 828 01:02:23,599 --> 01:02:27,880 about what you make it, what you choose to engage in, who you 829 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,760 choose to engage in it with We create the world that our kids have to 830 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:37,519 live in. That includes on social media. You can go on social media 831 01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:45,199 at any moment of the day and see lots of grown adults being mean and 832 01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:52,119 angry and hateful and disparaging and putting a whole lot of negativity on social media, 833 01:02:52,239 --> 01:02:58,800 and thereby doing so also out into the world. Social media is not 834 01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:02,719 the way it is because of how social media works, because of the algorithms 835 01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:07,920 in terms of the negativity and the cesspool that it so often seems to be. 836 01:03:07,159 --> 01:03:13,360 It's that way because of us. We're the ones using social media. 837 01:03:13,679 --> 01:03:17,480 We're the ones responsible. So when somebody like this guy says, wow, 838 01:03:17,639 --> 01:03:21,719 look at what look at what our kids are being exposed to, Well, 839 01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,159 we need something to blame. So we're gonna blame this and we're gonna do 840 01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:29,880 something about this. It's never. It's never we're gonna look inward and we're 841 01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:34,400 gonna do something about us. It's never we're gonna look inward and we're gonna 842 01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:38,639 try to be better adults. I mean, look at cable news. You 843 01:03:38,679 --> 01:03:45,199 can see grown adults arguing having very unproductive arguments where they talk past each other, 844 01:03:45,559 --> 01:03:50,719 Like we were looking at the other day on the show. That's the 845 01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:54,000 world we've created for our kids. And then we need someone to blame, 846 01:03:54,400 --> 01:04:02,519 because God forbid, under any circumstances we ever take any responsibility for it ourselves. 847 01:04:03,119 --> 01:04:08,239 Oh, that would be the worst thing for anyone ever say, you 848 01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:11,760 know, we all need to do better in terms of how we treat each 849 01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:15,239 other and the example that we set for our kids. No, we can't 850 01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,199 do that. We can't do that. So instead we need to make a 851 01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:28,239 law about social media because this is currently a very convenient scapegoat. That's what's 852 01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:35,599 really going on here. While the measures sponsored by progressive Democrats and one of 853 01:04:35,639 --> 01:04:40,519 the most art and conservatives, and the Senate lawmakers from across the idiological spectrum 854 01:04:40,559 --> 01:04:45,840 are equally skeptical of the proposal, showing the difficult road ahead for passing any 855 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,880 new media measure, including those aimed at children. Many lawmakers are torn between 856 01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:55,039 protecting kids online and preserving the robust Internet as we know it, which we 857 01:04:55,159 --> 01:05:00,599 must do. Naturally, most senators are looking at their own families guidance. 858 01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:05,800 Senator Mitt Romney, Republican of Utah, Mittens of Utah, as I like 859 01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:09,719 to call him, said, quote, my grandkids have flip phones. They 860 01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:14,679 don't have smartphones until they get older. Une. Oh, well look at 861 01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:16,719 that. They're not allowed to have smartphones until they get older. So in 862 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:21,760 other words, you are, well, they're not your kids, they're your 863 01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:29,840 grandkids. But so your your kids are being actual parents to your grandkids only 864 01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,239 letting them have flip phones and not smartphones until they get older. Wow, 865 01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,519 imagine that. So what you're saying, Senator Romney, is you don't need 866 01:05:35,559 --> 01:05:43,159 the government doing that for you, Your family is doing it. Romney also 867 01:05:43,239 --> 01:05:45,519 says, I have five sons, so there are five different families, and 868 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:49,400 they do have different approaches, and the youngest son is the one that's the 869 01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:53,679 most strict, and the oldest son didn't really think of it as being such 870 01:05:53,719 --> 01:05:58,000 a big deal. Unquote. Wow, imagine that. So in Mitt Romney's 871 01:05:58,079 --> 01:06:02,199 family, his sons, He's got five sons, big family, they're actually 872 01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:08,360 making parental choices for their children instead of waiting for the government to do it 873 01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:13,480 for them. Imagine what a novel idea, What a novel idea. It 874 01:06:13,519 --> 01:06:16,039 says here for Smith, the Minnesota senator worried about her party coming across as 875 01:06:16,119 --> 01:06:21,480 big sister. There wasn't even uniformity in her own household when her boys were 876 01:06:21,519 --> 01:06:27,000 fighting over the family's first desktop computer ages ago, and her kids also proved 877 01:06:27,039 --> 01:06:30,400 to be mini hackers. Smith says, quote, we were trying to figure 878 01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:34,280 out how to monitor their interactions with the computer, and we quickly figured out 879 01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:39,760 that, at least for them, it was hard to put hard fast rules 880 01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,679 because kids find a way, and different parents have different rules for what they 881 01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:47,719 think is the right thing for their kids. Unquote. While Smith was open 882 01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,360 to the new measure, she's wary. Quote I tend to be, I 883 01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:55,639 guess, a little bit suspicious of hard and fast rules because I'm not sure 884 01:06:55,679 --> 01:06:58,679 that they work, and because I sort of think that parents and kids should 885 01:06:58,719 --> 01:07:01,840 have the freedom to decide it's right for their family. Unquote. Yes, 886 01:07:02,239 --> 01:07:06,559 agreed. While Smith is a progressive Democrat on this measure, she's currently aligned 887 01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:13,360 with Senator rand Paul, who I tend to find to be an incredible disappointment 888 01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:15,840 in recent years. But I agree with him here. Rand Paul, the 889 01:07:16,039 --> 01:07:21,719 Kentucky Republican, who said, quote, parents exercise some oversight of what their 890 01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:26,519 kids view on the internet, what they view on television. All these things 891 01:07:26,559 --> 01:07:30,920 are important. I'm not sure I want the federal government involved. Un I 892 01:07:31,039 --> 01:07:40,679 agree. Now, it says here the new measure also has competition. We're 893 01:07:40,679 --> 01:07:43,320 going to finish with this and then we're gonna get to Eric's review. The 894 01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:46,719 new measure also has competition. Just last week, Senators Richard Blumenthal, a 895 01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:50,639 Connecticut Democrat, and South Carolina's Lindsay Graham, the top Republican on the Senate 896 01:07:50,719 --> 01:07:58,320 Judiciary Committee, reintroduced their earn It Act, the eliminating abusive and rampant neglect 897 01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:04,719 of Interactive Technology Act. Oh god, just from the name, I'm The 898 01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:09,679 measure would strip away the currency. This is bad. The measure would strip 899 01:08:09,719 --> 01:08:15,039 away the current Section two thirty protections for any sites that publish Oh well, 900 01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:19,960 okay, see I don't I don't even like talking about that, but certain 901 01:08:20,239 --> 01:08:27,520 certain kinds of content which these sites already police. This though, Section two 902 01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:31,239 thirty remains a highly controversial law because it protects online businesses from liability for much 903 01:08:31,279 --> 01:08:35,119 of what its users post on their platforms. Shouts. The Hawaii Democrat, 904 01:08:35,159 --> 01:08:39,840 who helped negotiate the new effort is an original co sponsor of the earn It 905 01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:43,239 Act. He says, all these efforts coming from different angles show that Congress 906 01:08:43,319 --> 01:08:46,760 is finally serious about the impact the Internet has on children. Shout says. 907 01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,520 Quote the more of the merryer earth. There's plenty of momentum. All these 908 01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:54,239 efforts ought to be complimentary. Unquote, Oh what so you should pass all 909 01:08:54,319 --> 01:08:59,319 these laws? Oh god, okay, there's a little bit more to the 910 01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:04,119 article. But again it's a little redundant. Melanie says, I blame rock 911 01:09:04,159 --> 01:09:09,640 and roll with all that hip swaying. Yeah, Elvis I blame Elvis actually, 912 01:09:12,159 --> 01:09:15,640 when he went on Ed Sullivan, Crystal says Mitt Romney used an alias 913 01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:20,000 on social media. Oh I forgot about this Pierre de Lecto or something to 914 01:09:20,159 --> 01:09:26,920 argue against people who criticized him Romney's views, so people didn't know it was 915 01:09:27,039 --> 01:09:29,880 him. He needs to sit down and shut up. I don't hold that 916 01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,399 against him, though, I actually I think that's kind of funny. I 917 01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:38,399 do. I don't know why I just do. But you know again, 918 01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,800 I don't want to be a hypocrite. I also have, but I've never 919 01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:45,000 used an alias to rebut criticism against myself. Okay, here's what we're gonna 920 01:09:45,039 --> 01:09:48,680 do. We are running late, but we got we got tied up on 921 01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:53,159 this issue, and we had that wonderful call from don iMOS from Purgatory. 922 01:09:53,399 --> 01:09:56,479 We're gonna take a quick break, show some love to our amazing sponsors, 923 01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:00,239 and then we're gonna come right back. With Eric Pilcher's classic film review this 924 01:10:00,359 --> 01:10:04,680 week, the subject is double Indemnity, and as I often say, hearing 925 01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:09,239 Eric's review makes me want to see the movie. But so there's plenty more 926 01:10:09,279 --> 01:10:13,640 to come today on Matt Connerton Unleashed, So don't go anywhere. Come on 927 01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:18,199 down to the Hop Knot at one thousand Elms Street, Manchester's premiere craft beer 928 01:10:18,279 --> 01:10:21,600 and gourmet pretzel bar. Tell us more at Trudy. We make our dough 929 01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:27,439 fresh every day. We make a variety of styles of pretzels and serve craft 930 01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:30,600 beer, cocktails and a few bottles of wine. We do the traditional pretzel 931 01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:34,319 and we have multiple flavors for that. 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Their phone number is eight six six eight four one forty six hundred 947 01:12:11,119 --> 01:12:16,680 or on the web at CGI business Solutions dot com. WMNH rip. The 948 01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:27,399 Normals Office Memorandum Walden F to Barton Keys, Claims Manager, Los Angeles, 949 01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:33,720 July sixteenth, nineteen thirty eight. Their keys suppose you'll call us a confession 950 01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:39,319 when you hear it. I don't like the word confession. I just want 951 01:12:39,319 --> 01:12:41,439 to set you right about something you couldn't see because it was a smack up 952 01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:45,439 against your nose. You think you're such a hot potato as a claims manager. 953 01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:50,079 It's such a wolf on a phoney claim. Maybe let's take a look 954 01:12:50,079 --> 01:12:57,039 at that Didson claim accident in double indemnity. You were pretty good in there 955 01:12:57,039 --> 01:13:00,840 for a while. Keys. He said it wasn't an accident. Check, 956 01:13:01,039 --> 01:13:08,079 he said it wasn't suicide. Check he said it was murdering. Check. 957 01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:13,319 You thought you had a cold, didn't You? All wrapped up in tissue 958 01:13:13,319 --> 01:13:17,279 paper with pink ribbons around it. It was perfect, except it wasn't because 959 01:13:17,279 --> 01:13:23,880 you made one mistake, just one little mistake, when it came to picking 960 01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:28,239 the killer. You picked the wrong guy. Do you want to know who 961 01:13:28,319 --> 01:13:34,359 killed Didrickson? Little tight to that cheap cigar here his kids? I killed 962 01:13:34,399 --> 01:13:40,640 Diedrickson? Maybe Wader f insurance salesman, thirty five years old, unmarried, 963 01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:47,319 no visible skies until a while ago. That is as I killed him. 964 01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:56,159 I killed him for money and for a woman, and I didn't get the 965 01:13:56,199 --> 01:14:05,720 money in I didn't get the woman. But isn't it? Double indemnity is 966 01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:14,039 an insurance clause that pays out double the policy limit if the insured individual dies 967 01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:19,239 due to an accident. It is a common provision, but for our intents 968 01:14:19,319 --> 01:14:26,680 and purposes, it defines the start of the film noir genre. Released in 969 01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:31,359 nineteen forty four, directed by Billy Wilder. He also co wrote this film 970 01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:40,039 with famed hard Boiled detective writer Raymond Chandler. Double Indemnity leaves the captivating tale 971 01:14:40,239 --> 01:14:45,479 of insurance salesman Walter Naff played by Fred McMurray, who, on what appears 972 01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:53,720 to be a standard sales call, meets the sultry in alluring Phyllis Dietrichson Barbara 973 01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:59,640 Stanwick and becomes instantly smitten. This leads Naff down a road of lust, 974 01:15:00,319 --> 01:15:06,199 murder, and deception. The film also features the fast talking film legend Edward 975 01:15:06,279 --> 01:15:13,279 G. Robinson as Barton Keys, an adjuster that sniffs out phony claims with 976 01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:19,560 ease. Fast talking is a primary staple of film noir and really drives this 977 01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:27,239 film with its biting dialogue and crisp words. First, we will hear the 978 01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:33,399 end of the initial conversation between missus Dietrichson and Naf. The dialogue is so 979 01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:41,800 powerful, profound in verbose. Here also try and pick up on the innuendo 980 01:15:42,039 --> 01:15:46,760 between the two. And then at the conclusion of this scene we hear another 981 01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:57,079 fantastic example of a film noir staple, haunting voiceover narration by Naff. Here 982 01:15:57,239 --> 01:16:01,479 is not insurance man or miss Ni years doing pretty well. It's a living 983 01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:08,680 you handle just automobile insurance or kind all kinds fire, earthquake, fath, 984 01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,640 public liability group, insurance, industrial stuff, and so I write down the 985 01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:17,319 line accident insurance, accident insurance show, mister Diddison, we should tell me 986 01:16:17,359 --> 01:16:25,439 was some greater in that England just my name as for instance, tell less 987 01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:29,800 a lessa. I think I like that. Could you're not sure? I 988 01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,199 have to drive it around the black a couple of times, mister Neff, 989 01:16:32,199 --> 01:16:35,159 Why don't you drapp by tomorrow evening around eight thirty. He'll be in then 990 01:16:36,319 --> 01:16:40,560 my husband, who were anxious to talk to him, weren't you? Yeah? 991 01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:43,520 It was, but I'm sort of getting over the ideas. You know 992 01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,119 what I mean. There's a speed limit in this state, mister Neff, 993 01:16:45,239 --> 01:16:48,720 forty five miles an hour. How best as a going off, I'd say 994 01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:51,800 around ninety. Suppose you get down off your motorcycle and give me a ticket. 995 01:16:53,039 --> 01:16:55,800 I suppose I let you off for the warning this time. Suppose it 996 01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:59,560 doesn't take. Suppose I have to work you over the knuckoft. Suppose I 997 01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:01,920 must trying and put my head in your shoulder, But as you try putting 998 01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:09,640 it on my husband's shoulder, that tears it a thirty to eating there. 999 01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:13,680 That's what I suggested. You'd be here too, I guess though I usually 1000 01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:16,279 am same chair, same perfume, same ankler. I wonder if I know 1001 01:17:16,359 --> 01:17:25,560 what you mean. I wonder if you wonder It was a hot afternoon and 1002 01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:29,840 I can still remember the smell of honeysuckle all along that street. How could 1003 01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:33,159 I have known that murder can sometimes smell like honeysuckle. Maybe you would have 1004 01:17:33,239 --> 01:17:38,560 known Keys the minute you mentioned accident insurance, but I didn't. I felt 1005 01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:45,359 like a million when dissecting this film, it would be near criminal to not 1006 01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:49,520 talk about the performance of Edward G. Robinson. This film is, in 1007 01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:57,000 my opinion, his most underrated performance. As Barton Keys, he steals the 1008 01:17:57,279 --> 01:18:04,960 scene every time he appears. His mannerism's voice and natural short stature make him 1009 01:18:05,159 --> 01:18:13,239 the perfect claims adjuster. Our next two clips are examples of this. When 1010 01:18:13,319 --> 01:18:17,640 we first encounter Keys, he's arguing with the claimant seeking to get paid on 1011 01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:26,159 a claim. Here how Keys turns the tables with smooth direct delivery. Then 1012 01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:33,319 after erstwhile lovers Phyllis and Nef conspire and successfully kill her husband to attempt to 1013 01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:41,960 cash in on the double indemnity on the accidental death policy. Hear how Keys 1014 01:18:42,119 --> 01:18:46,199 has his suspicions, and he brings them to Nef, in which he is 1015 01:18:46,279 --> 01:18:55,159 confidently and we find out later hauntingly painfully accurate, all on a simple hunch. 1016 01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,199 Come on, come on, you're not kidding anybody without nine of bolt. 1017 01:18:59,319 --> 01:19:00,560 You're on the cabin, you know, it, says you. All 1018 01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:03,239 I want is my money? There's you all? Are you gonna gets the 1019 01:19:03,279 --> 01:19:08,000 cops? Hello, water, there's a sam Garnopus f mingle Oi sure I 1020 01:19:08,079 --> 01:19:11,720 omast a Globus wrote a policy on his truck. Ahry, mister Globus. 1021 01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:15,800 I ain't so good, my truck burned down. Yeah, not a gonopus. 1022 01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:18,279 Every month hundreds of claims come to the depts. Some of them are 1023 01:19:18,319 --> 01:19:21,720 phonies, and I know which ones. How do I know? Because my 1024 01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:28,359 little man tells me what little man? A little man in here. Every 1025 01:19:28,399 --> 01:19:30,920 time one of these phonies comes along, it ties knots in my stomach. 1026 01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:32,640 I can't eat Yours was one of them, Go loopus. That's how I 1027 01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:36,359 knew your claim was crooked? So what did I do I send the tokar 1028 01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:40,760 over to your garage this afternoon? And they checked up that burned out truck 1029 01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,520 of yours and what did they find? They found what was left of an 1030 01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:47,760 eat pile of shavings. What shavings? The ones you shuk with kerosene and 1031 01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:53,720 dropped the match on. Look, mister, I'm just a poor guy. 1032 01:19:54,319 --> 01:19:58,520 Maybe I made a mistake, that's one way of putting it. I ain't 1033 01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:00,479 feeling so blueful. Mister you had a detriment to sign. Listen to your 1034 01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:03,800 field fire signs? What so wa were on your claim? Right here? 1035 01:20:05,279 --> 01:20:11,439 Yeah here, Now you're an honest man again. Goodbye, going openers. 1036 01:20:12,399 --> 01:20:15,199 I ain't got no more truck, honestly, it's gone through the box. 1037 01:20:15,239 --> 01:20:16,359 There's a lot of dog when I live. Smat, I got over it. 1038 01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:18,760 Don't you not open the door? Just put your hand on the knob, 1039 01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:26,640 turn it to the left, now pull it towards you. That's the 1040 01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:38,079 boys, thank you, it's the kids. And now keys suspicions, it's 1041 01:20:38,119 --> 01:20:41,960 on your mind. And broken leg. The guy had a broken leg. 1042 01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:45,640 What are you talking about talking about? Dietrichson? He had accident insurance, 1043 01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:48,800 didn't he Yeah? And he broke his leg didn't hee, so what And 1044 01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:51,439 he didn't put an a claim? Why didn't he put an a claim? 1045 01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:57,079 Why what are you driving here? Well? I had dinner two hours ago 1046 01:20:58,279 --> 01:21:00,800 and it's stuck halfway any years? Is acting up again? There's something wrong 1047 01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:04,720 with the dietris in case or because it didn't file a claim. Maybe he 1048 01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:08,359 just didn't have time. Maybe he just didn't know that he was insured. 1049 01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:13,680 No, No, that couldn't be it. You would deliver the policy to 1050 01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:16,840 impersonally, didn't you? He got his check? Sure I had? Anybody 1051 01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:21,760 carb in Etnesota? No? Hell wad I've been living with us a little 1052 01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:26,039 man for twenty six years. He's never failed me. Yet There's got to 1053 01:21:26,079 --> 01:21:29,439 be something wrong. Or maybe Norton was right. Maybe it was suicide. 1054 01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:34,159 No, not suicide, but not an accident either. What else? I 1055 01:21:34,279 --> 01:21:38,079 look, Walter, A guy takes out an accident policy, but within one 1056 01:21:38,119 --> 01:21:40,840 hundred thousand dollars if he's killed on the train, and two weeks later he's 1057 01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:42,880 killed on the train, and not in the train accident, mind you, 1058 01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:46,199 but falling off some silly observation car. You know what the mathematical probability of 1059 01:21:46,279 --> 01:21:50,720 that is one out of oh I don't know how many billions, and add 1060 01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:55,279 to that the broken leg. Now, it just it just can't be the 1061 01:21:55,319 --> 01:22:03,199 way it looks. Something has been worked on us. So just why writer, 1062 01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:08,560 don't you have any peppermint or something? Oh? Sorry, bottle sold 1063 01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:12,439 of water? No? No, no, who do you suspect? Well? 1064 01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,800 Maybe I like to make things easy for myself, but I always tend 1065 01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:17,319 to suspect the beneficiary. You know, yeah, that white eyed dame. 1066 01:22:17,399 --> 01:22:20,119 They just didn't know anything about anything, or you're crazy because she wasn't even 1067 01:22:20,159 --> 01:22:23,560 on the trail. I know she wasn't water. I don't claim to know 1068 01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:25,439 how it was worked, who worked it, but all I know is that 1069 01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:28,880 it was worked. I'm gonna get to a drugstore. This thing feels like 1070 01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:32,239 a hunk of concrete inside me in night water, all right, keys, 1071 01:22:33,399 --> 01:22:39,000 see the arts in the water. Yeah, I'd like to move in on 1072 01:22:39,079 --> 01:22:43,239 all right now tonight. Whether Northmans tripe Pant's ideas about a company policy, 1073 01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:46,359 I'd have the police after her so fast to make a headspin. They put 1074 01:22:46,399 --> 01:22:50,560 her through the wringer and bare the things they would squeeze out. I mean, 1075 01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:53,880 I haven't got a single thing to go on. Keis oh not too 1076 01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,920 much, just twenty six years experienced all the percentage there is, and let's 1077 01:22:56,960 --> 01:23:16,000 hunk a concrete in my stomach. One of other things good. What makes 1078 01:23:16,119 --> 01:23:21,680 film noir such an amazing genre, and one of the factors that makes it 1079 01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:29,039 a personal favorite of mine, is that there is always a conclusion where a 1080 01:23:29,239 --> 01:23:35,319 caper or plan falls apart with this being the modern blueprint for film noir, 1081 01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:43,840 this film has this, and it is heartbreaking, mesmerizing, and quite memorable. 1082 01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:49,399 In our final scene for this week's review, Neph confronts Phyllis after realizing 1083 01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:58,199 he was used simply for his knowledge of insurance as an insider trader in a 1084 01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:05,199 sick twisted so the way or or or was he? I will leave that 1085 01:24:05,399 --> 01:24:18,199 up to you, the listeners, to decide. Well, Baby, anybody 1086 01:24:18,239 --> 01:24:24,960 else in the house, nobody? Why? What's that music radio up the 1087 01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:35,119 street? Just like the first time I came here, isn't it? We 1088 01:24:35,239 --> 01:24:42,479 were talking about automill be my shots. You were thinking about murder. I 1089 01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:45,239 was thinking about that ankles, And what are you thinking about now? I'm 1090 01:24:45,279 --> 01:24:49,119 all through thinking, Baby. I just came to say goodbye, good bye. 1091 01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:53,359 Where are you going? You're the one that's going, baby, not 1092 01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:57,479 me. I'm getting off the trolley car right at this point. Don't you 1093 01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:00,239 stop being fancy. Let's have it whatever it is, all right. Tell 1094 01:25:00,279 --> 01:25:03,159 you the fund of Mine's got a funny theory, he says, when two 1095 01:25:03,159 --> 01:25:05,199 people commit a murder, it's sort of like they're writing on a trolley car 1096 01:25:05,279 --> 01:25:09,159 together. One can't get off without the other. They're stuck with each other. 1097 01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:11,920 They have to go on writing together clear to the end of the line, 1098 01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:15,800 the last op as the cemetery. Maybe that's something there, your betty 1099 01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:18,399 has. Two people are going to ride at the end of the line, 1100 01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:20,680 all right. I mean, I'm not going to be one of them. 1101 01:25:21,279 --> 01:25:25,239 I've got another guy to finish my ride for me. He's who are you 1102 01:25:25,359 --> 01:25:29,000 talking about? Acquaintince? He yours? I, mister, it's a ketty 1103 01:25:30,039 --> 01:25:30,960 Come on, baby, I just got into this thing because I haven't to 1104 01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,960 know a little something about insurance, didn't I That was a sucker. I 1105 01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:35,880 might have been brushed off just as soon as you get your hands on the 1106 01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:39,680 money. Nobody wanted to brush you off. Say it. I'm telling this. 1107 01:25:40,199 --> 01:25:41,920 It's been you. And that's a ketty guy all along, isn't it. 1108 01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:45,039 That's not true. That's making the difference if it's true, and that 1109 01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:48,800 the point is Keys believes a Katty is the one he's been looking for. 1110 01:25:50,159 --> 01:25:54,560 I haven't like gas chamber before he knows what's happened to doing? What's happening 1111 01:25:54,560 --> 01:26:01,159 to me? Or this time? Probably silly? Baby? What do you 1112 01:26:01,199 --> 01:26:03,760 think is going to happen to you? You helped him do the murder, 1113 01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:06,920 didn't you? That's what Keys thinking? And what's good enough for Keys? 1114 01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:10,560 It's good enough for me. Maybe it's not good enough for me, Walter. 1115 01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:15,680 Maybe I don't go for the idea. Maybe I'd rather talk. Sometimes 1116 01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:17,600 people are where they can't talk under six feet to do it. Maybe. 1117 01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:20,840 And if it was you, they charged that up to Sagetty too, wouldn't 1118 01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:27,000 they? Sure they wouldn't. And that's just what's gonna happen, baby, 1119 01:26:27,319 --> 01:26:30,479 because he's coming here to night in about fifteen minutes, or the cops right 1120 01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:34,720 behind him. It's all taken care of. That would make everything lovely for 1121 01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:38,720 you, wouldn't it right. It's got to be done before the suit of 1122 01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:42,279 yours comes to trial and only gets a chance to sound off, or they 1123 01:26:42,319 --> 01:26:44,159 trip you up in the stand and you start to going and drag me down 1124 01:26:44,199 --> 01:26:45,199 with you. Maybe I had sagett here so they won't get a chance to 1125 01:26:45,199 --> 01:26:47,479 trip me up, so we can get the money and be together. That's 1126 01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:54,880 cute. A film being ambiguous at the end, or even towards the end, 1127 01:26:55,279 --> 01:26:59,319 is what makes film noir in a class of its own. It is 1128 01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:04,239 left us, the viewers, to make the final decision on who is right, 1129 01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:12,039 who is wrong, and what happens after the words the end flashed across 1130 01:27:12,159 --> 01:27:17,439 the screen. It comes down to our morals and our convictions. That is 1131 01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:26,520 ultimately what decides who is the heroes in the villains in these films. Those 1132 01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:31,479 feelings are what makes this genre so well regarded even today in the films that 1133 01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:35,159 are a part of it, some of the most heralded and highly thought of. 1134 01:27:36,399 --> 01:27:43,800 This film was very controversial upon release, with adultery, murdering of a 1135 01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:49,119 spouse, and the dialogue being loaded with innuendo. The production code had fits 1136 01:27:49,399 --> 01:27:56,279 over this film. It did not deter it from getting widespread praise from critics 1137 01:27:56,680 --> 01:28:01,039 and being a box office dynamo. It made five million dollars against a budget 1138 01:28:01,119 --> 01:28:08,800 of nine hundred and eighty thousand. It was nominated for seven Academy awards including 1139 01:28:09,119 --> 01:28:15,760 Best Picture, Best Director for Wilder, Best Actress Stanwick, and Best Screenplay 1140 01:28:15,159 --> 01:28:20,960 both Wilder and Chandler. More than likely due to the controversy surrounding the film, 1141 01:28:21,319 --> 01:28:28,279 It's sadly and quite unjustly won none of them. Regardless, this film 1142 01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:32,319 is the perfect noir film in an example of everything that makes one of my 1143 01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:39,880 favorite genres truly amazing. I hope you'll join me next week when we will 1144 01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:45,800 look at high school seniors looking to have fun, lose their virginity, and 1145 01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:51,319 have some warm apple pie in a very unconventional way. Our film is the 1146 01:28:51,479 --> 01:29:00,560 nineteen ninety nineteen classic American Pie for WMNH and Matt Connerton Unleash. This has 1147 01:29:00,600 --> 01:30:01,359 been a classic film review with Eric Culture. Welcome back everybody as we cruise 1148 01:30:01,359 --> 01:30:06,159 into our final segment. It is Matt Connerton Unleashed and we are live from 1149 01:30:06,199 --> 01:30:13,119 the studios of wm n H ninety five point three FM in glorious downtown Manchester, 1150 01:30:13,239 --> 01:30:15,439 New Hampshire, also on Comcast ninety seven. If you're in Manchester and 1151 01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:19,000 hello to Olive our online listeners across the nation and around the globe. You 1152 01:30:19,039 --> 01:30:23,479 can go to my website Matt Connerton dot com for all your live streaming options, 1153 01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:26,720 social media links, contact info, show archives, etc. Etc. 1154 01:30:27,359 --> 01:30:30,760 Today is Friday, April twenty eight, twenty twenty three. Friday, of 1155 01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:34,039 course, my long day here at WMNH. We've got right after this show, 1156 01:30:34,119 --> 01:30:38,439 We've got a repeat of Granted State of Mind hosted by the Great Rob 1157 01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:42,399 as a Veto and PAULI Stone. But then I'm back tonight at eight pm 1158 01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:46,079 for Retro Spectrum Radio with Paul C from eight to eleven. I'm one of 1159 01:30:46,159 --> 01:30:50,880 Paul's co hosts on that show. And tonight we're joined by Ron Leplume who 1160 01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:54,600 will be in studio with us. Haven't seen Ron in a number of weeks, 1161 01:30:55,199 --> 01:30:59,159 so that'll be fun. So that will be tonight. So Friday definitely 1162 01:30:59,199 --> 01:31:02,520 my favorite day of the week here at WMNH ninety five point three FM. 1163 01:31:03,319 --> 01:31:08,399 Let's see a great review, of course from our friend Eric Pilcher this week 1164 01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:14,159 the subject at Double Indemnity. Mike from Queen City Cabinetry says on my list 1165 01:31:14,279 --> 01:31:16,520 to watch, Thank you. Eric. Also, Miriam Bannis joins us in 1166 01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:19,520 the Facebook live chat. Hello Miriam. By the way, Miriam, my 1167 01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:25,680 dad said he was very complimentary about the segment that we did on Wednesday when 1168 01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:28,720 you were here, when we had that discussion about autism. I got a 1169 01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:30,880 lot of positive feedback about that, and my dad texted me about it and 1170 01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:34,600 he thought that was really good. So I appreciated you joining us for that. 1171 01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:38,600 If you'd like to join us, we've have a little bit of time 1172 01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:42,239 left in today's show. Six zo three two five six Z seven is the 1173 01:31:42,399 --> 01:31:45,840 studio line six zo three two five six zero seven. You can also text 1174 01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:49,279 me at six one seven nine one seven four four seven six. I'm on 1175 01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:54,800 social media at Matt connorton. You can email me Matt at Matt Connerton dot 1176 01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:59,000 com, and of course you can interact endo Pine in the Facebook live chat. 1177 01:31:59,039 --> 01:32:01,479 But the best thing to do so that we can hear and enjoy your 1178 01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:08,239 dulcet tones is to give us a call at six three two five zero six 1179 01:32:08,359 --> 01:32:13,159 zero seven. By the way, our amazing sponsor at the hop Knot right 1180 01:32:13,199 --> 01:32:15,640 across the street in the Brady Sullivan. Oh, by the way, they've 1181 01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:18,520 got this is not in the announcement that they posted today, well actually two 1182 01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:24,079 announcements. 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Yes, Eric does 1211 01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:41,000 a great job with those film reviews. Absolutely. Uh let's see. Um, 1212 01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:44,359 let's look at So we've got a couple of different directions we could go 1213 01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:45,720 in with the limited time that we have left, but I think we should 1214 01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:54,319 probably look at this a little bit of Tucker Carlson news. So unless you 1215 01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:57,840 unless you haven't been paying attention. Of course, it's been a big week, 1216 01:34:58,319 --> 01:35:01,720 a big week in media, both in cable news and online media. 1217 01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:04,600 Of course, in cable news, we had we started the week with the 1218 01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:11,159 firings in the same day of both Tucker Carlson from Fox and Don Lemon from 1219 01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:16,359 CNN, and also in the online media realm a lot of Stephen Crowder news. 1220 01:35:17,199 --> 01:35:20,159 I don't know if we'll get to Stephen Crowder today because we don't have 1221 01:35:20,279 --> 01:35:23,640 much time left and we do want to need to spend a little bit of 1222 01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:30,880 time on this. Uh, Tucker Carlson, this is quite remarkable. Apparently 1223 01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:38,600 we still don't know for sure the reason for his firing. Eric and I. 1224 01:35:39,159 --> 01:35:41,880 Eric Pilter and I on Wednesday when he called in, we went over 1225 01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:45,319 a lot of different scenarios and we did a lot of speculating regarding both Tucker 1226 01:35:45,399 --> 01:35:50,760 Carlson and Don Lemon. I disagree. I still disagree, by the way, 1227 01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:58,319 with what seems to be the prevailing theory about Don Lemon and his interaction 1228 01:35:58,399 --> 01:36:01,960 with Viveka Ramaswami. If I'm saying that correctly, I still don't know if 1229 01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:04,600 I'm saying that correctly, but I really don't think that was it. I 1230 01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:06,680 mean, it might have been the cherry on top of some other things, 1231 01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:11,359 but I really don't think that was it. But I but I'm sure we'll 1232 01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:15,359 learn more eventually about what went on there. Although pretty easy to get rid 1233 01:36:15,399 --> 01:36:18,279 of Don Lemon too, as I pointed out to Eric, don Lemon compared 1234 01:36:18,279 --> 01:36:25,079 with Tucker Carlson because Tucker Carlson not only the top ratings getter on Fox News, 1235 01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:32,199 but also the top rated host on all of cable news, whereas Don 1236 01:36:32,319 --> 01:36:38,359 Lemon wasn't pulling any kind of numbers really on the Morning Show. Oh, 1237 01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:42,960 Crystal points out, Yes, the NBC Universal CEO was also fired. Yeah. 1238 01:36:43,079 --> 01:36:46,000 Yeah, big, big week, lots of upheaval, lots of upheaval 1239 01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:49,560 and uh and we love to talk about it. I'm fascinated by all things 1240 01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:54,760 media, of course, but some news on Tucker car I think I think 1241 01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:57,800 we know at this point, I think we know what really happened with Tucker 1242 01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:03,760 Carlson. It wasn't It wasn't directly because of the dominion lawsuit. Tucker Carlson 1243 01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:09,760 was had done something that in no company would be tolerated. Anybody would be 1244 01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:15,479 fired for this. Apparently he was making a lot of comments about management, 1245 01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:19,159 some of them rather profane. And you know, listen, anything that you 1246 01:37:19,279 --> 01:37:25,039 do in this world, in the modern world, leaves some sort of a 1247 01:37:25,119 --> 01:37:29,479 digital footprint, right, so you know, if you're if if say you're 1248 01:37:29,560 --> 01:37:38,119 texting to a co worker about your boss, something really unpleasant and inappropriate about 1249 01:37:38,199 --> 01:37:42,960 your boss, you know, you might think you're just texting it to your 1250 01:37:43,239 --> 01:37:46,920 coworker, but you know other people might ultimately find out about it. So, 1251 01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:51,960 in fact, there was an incident on the Opie and Anthony Show that 1252 01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:57,840 a certain text message. If you're a fan of Opie and Anthony and you 1253 01:37:57,920 --> 01:38:00,239 know all the lore, you know the reference. If not, don't worry 1254 01:38:00,239 --> 01:38:03,439 about it. It's not worth taking the time to explain right now. But 1255 01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:09,039 when I think of when I think of errand text messages that end up causing 1256 01:38:09,079 --> 01:38:12,239 a lot of trouble, I think of Opie and Anthony. But no, 1257 01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:15,039 let's look at this though. So this is from the Hill dot com. 1258 01:38:15,399 --> 01:38:19,079 This is being reported everywhere, of course, but Tucker Carlson's disparaging comments about 1259 01:38:19,119 --> 01:38:24,720 Fox leaders led to his ouster. According to a new report, It says 1260 01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:29,359 here Tucker Carlson, the leading primetime host who was ousted from his job this 1261 01:38:29,479 --> 01:38:32,119 week, was shown the door at the cable news giant in part because of 1262 01:38:32,239 --> 01:38:38,520 comments he made in private about his Fox News colleagues and bosses. According to 1263 01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:43,760 a new report from The Wall Street Journal, Carlson's private text messages, which 1264 01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:47,840 were included in public court documents in part I'm sorry as part of Dominion Voting 1265 01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:55,520 Systems blockbuster defamation lawsuit against a network, show him disparaging Fox leadership and worrying 1266 01:38:55,920 --> 01:39:00,840 how reporters affect checking former President Trump's false claims about voter fraud would anger the 1267 01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:06,680 network's massive audience. The Journal, which like Fox, is owned by billionaire 1268 01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:13,840 conservative media mogul Rupert Murdoch, reported this week that the explicit content of Carlson's 1269 01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:17,159 text messages, some of which had been redacted in the dominion court documents, 1270 01:39:17,239 --> 01:39:26,520 became known internally to senior Fox management and played a role in his ouster awkward. 1271 01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:33,199 Multiple reports have surfaced this week suggesting in one of the redacted messages that 1272 01:39:33,279 --> 01:39:41,800 Carlson referred to a senior female Fox News executive as the C word and I'm 1273 01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:46,159 guessing that that word was not cantankerous. I think it was something else. 1274 01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:51,800 The journal reported on by the way, don't does a word to the wise. 1275 01:39:54,279 --> 01:39:58,239 Some people, as George Carlin used to say, some people need practical 1276 01:39:58,279 --> 01:40:04,560 advice. Don't call your boss that in a text message, even if it's 1277 01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:13,520 to another employee. It's just not a good idea. The journal reported on 1278 01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:17,119 Tuesday that when Fox's lawyers were fighting the dominion suit, they told Carlson they 1279 01:40:17,119 --> 01:40:21,520 had successfully convinced a judge to keep those messages redacted, but he was not 1280 01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:26,119 impressed and told colleagues he wanted the world to know what he thought of Fox 1281 01:40:26,239 --> 01:40:35,239 management. Wow, oh okay, Carlson in other text messages that were not 1282 01:40:35,399 --> 01:40:40,439 redacted, was seen badmouthing former all we know about this, Yes, was 1283 01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:44,800 seen badmouthing former President Trump and his allies. Yeah. Remember. He talked 1284 01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:46,600 about how he couldn't wait to not have to talk about Trump anymore, called 1285 01:40:46,640 --> 01:40:55,960 him a demonic force, said he hated him passionately. The Journal reported that 1286 01:40:56,159 --> 01:41:00,520 in one of those messages, Carlson told colleagues his remarks about Trump work quote 1287 01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:05,399 said during a momentary spasm of anger, while his dislike of the executive of 1288 01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:12,640 this executive was deep and enduring unquote. So he was just mad at Trumps. 1289 01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:16,199 He's upset with his bestie, but he was yet a deep, end 1290 01:41:16,359 --> 01:41:23,800 enduring anger towards this executive. Apparently, last month, during a radio interview, 1291 01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:28,960 Carlson said he was enraged that his private communications were made public as part 1292 01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:31,520 of the dominion lawsuit. Wait, was he enraged or he wanted the world 1293 01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:38,079 to know? I'm confused. Sounds like he was a bit conflicted. Does 1294 01:41:38,159 --> 01:41:40,760 he love Trump or does he think he's a demonic force? Again, it 1295 01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:46,600 sounds like he was conflicted, almost said convicted, little Freudian slip. Carlson 1296 01:41:46,680 --> 01:41:50,920 said, quote, and I think this is in the text and those were 1297 01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:57,039 all grabbed completely illegitimately in my opinion in this court case, which I guess 1298 01:41:57,119 --> 01:42:01,159 I'm not allowed to talk about, but I'm enraged that my private texts were 1299 01:42:01,319 --> 01:42:06,000 pulled unquote. Fox agreed last week to pay a dominion seven hundred eighty seven 1300 01:42:06,039 --> 01:42:11,159 and a half million dollars to settle the case. Moments before opening arguments were 1301 01:42:11,199 --> 01:42:15,640 set to begin before a jury, The network announced Monday it had parted ways 1302 01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:19,119 with Carlson, a decision which it reported on its air that morning had been 1303 01:42:19,239 --> 01:42:25,560 made mutually. Carlson has not commented publicly on his departure from Fox as of 1304 01:42:26,079 --> 01:42:31,039 Wednesday morning. So here you go, by the way, that video. 1305 01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:38,439 He did post a video. He doesn't directly address anything, but he did 1306 01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:41,800 post a video just talking about it on his you know, in his time 1307 01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:45,319 off, which he's barely he just got fired this week. But he did 1308 01:42:45,399 --> 01:42:50,079 post a short video, and apparently it netted fifty seven million views in less 1309 01:42:50,119 --> 01:42:54,640 than twenty four hours. It says here. A short video message posted by 1310 01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:59,039 former Fox News host Tucker Carlson following his houster from the network had racked up 1311 01:42:59,079 --> 01:43:04,399 more than fifty seven million views on Twitter as of yesterday afternoon. Carlson's cryptic 1312 01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:09,840 two minute message was posted around eight pm Wednesday. He did not directly address 1313 01:43:09,880 --> 01:43:15,159 his sudden departure from the network or plans on the future. For comparison, 1314 01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:19,119 President Biden's relaunch video, posted on the platform more than twenty four hours earlier, 1315 01:43:19,239 --> 01:43:24,800 had garnered forty one point eight million views as of two pm on Thursday. 1316 01:43:25,079 --> 01:43:29,159 Carlson, who commanded a nightly audience averaging north of three million people while 1317 01:43:29,199 --> 01:43:32,479 at Fox, criticized the cable news business, calling most of the debates on 1318 01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:39,840 television unbelievably stupid. Might have a point there. He also said, quote, 1319 01:43:40,079 --> 01:43:45,199 both political parties and their donors have reached consensus on what benefits them, 1320 01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:50,399 and they actively colluded to shut down any conversation about it, when, by 1321 01:43:50,479 --> 01:43:55,720 the way, there is truth to that. Not everything Tucker Carlson says is 1322 01:43:55,720 --> 01:44:02,760 a lie. Some very important things that he says are unfortunately, but anyway, 1323 01:44:03,199 --> 01:44:08,439 He also said, quote, when honest people say what's true, calmly 1324 01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:13,279 and without embarrassment, they become powerful. At the same time, the liars 1325 01:44:13,279 --> 01:44:16,279 who have been trying to silence them shrink, they become weaker. That's the 1326 01:44:16,439 --> 01:44:21,840 iron law of the universe. Unquote. Fox is not commented on what led 1327 01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:26,199 to Carlson's leaving the network beyond a statement thanking him for his service at the 1328 01:44:26,279 --> 01:44:30,600 company and saying his last show was last week. Multiple reports have surfaced this 1329 01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:35,840 week suggesting the explicit content of Carlson's text messages, which were pulled as part 1330 01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:42,359 of the defamation suit dominion voting systems brought against Fox, became known to top 1331 01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:46,720 executives at Fox and led to his ouster so there you go. I'm sure 1332 01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:50,960 we'll learn more. Crystal says in the chat room, wasn't Tucker one of 1333 01:44:51,039 --> 01:44:57,800 the reasons shepherd Smith left Fox? I don't that sounds familiar. I certainly 1334 01:44:57,840 --> 01:45:00,880 remember shepherd Smith. I was a as a fan of his. You know, 1335 01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:02,319 for a long time I thought shepherd Smith he might be one of the 1336 01:45:02,359 --> 01:45:06,640 few people there. He and Chris Wallace, who is also no longer there 1337 01:45:08,079 --> 01:45:11,319 two of the few people there who actually I think legitimately cared about journalism. 1338 01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:18,439 But I think there was something about Tucker Carlson with shepherd Smith leaving. By 1339 01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:21,439 the way, we just have just a few minutes left. I'm gonna finish 1340 01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:26,359 out today with a song from when we do Clothes. I'm gonna play a 1341 01:45:26,399 --> 01:45:31,760 song of Ramez Gerung actually Bob Dylan cover, but it's him on Granted State 1342 01:45:31,800 --> 01:45:36,000 of Mind performing it ain't me, babe, because Rames is going to be 1343 01:45:36,279 --> 01:45:41,439 tomorrow night at the Hopknot. But before we get to that, we do 1344 01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:45,439 have a couple of minutes left. We also have been talking on the show 1345 01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:50,039 a lot about Stephen Crowder all week in terms of now. He actually was 1346 01:45:50,159 --> 01:45:56,119 on Fox years ago. He used to appear there's actually a pretty epic sort 1347 01:45:56,119 --> 01:46:00,640 of debate that he had with Amy Schumer on that show What is it? 1348 01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:03,800 Red Eye? Is that still on Red Eye? Do they still run that 1349 01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:11,920 on Fox? Anyway? But Crowder, Crowder has been in the news a 1350 01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:15,039 lot recently. He's got this ongoing feud with Candas Owens. The latest thing 1351 01:46:15,159 --> 01:46:18,319 and I did share this out on social media, But the latest thing with 1352 01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:24,000 Crowder, Stephen Crowder is uh And we've been talking about him because you know, 1353 01:46:25,119 --> 01:46:28,119 his whole you know, the whole thing with the Daily Wire, the 1354 01:46:28,199 --> 01:46:32,680 Daily Wire offering him a fifty million dollar deal and then Crowder groused at that 1355 01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:39,520 and ended up signing with Rumble instead. But Crowder shared the he shared the 1356 01:46:39,960 --> 01:46:44,359 contents of the term sheet that he was offered. He kept saying it was 1357 01:46:44,399 --> 01:46:46,520 a contract, apparently it was actually just a term sheet, and how this 1358 01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:51,439 was unacceptable and how the Daily Wire was actually just cozying up to big tech. 1359 01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:56,880 And everyone at the Daily Wire took that very personally, including people like 1360 01:46:56,960 --> 01:47:01,520 Candas Owens and Ben Shapiro, and it was a very interesting time and interesting 1361 01:47:01,560 --> 01:47:05,640 to see, you know. And then this week, earlier in the week, 1362 01:47:09,239 --> 01:47:15,319 Stephen Crowder claiming that candas Owens tried to extort him, and candas Owens 1363 01:47:15,640 --> 01:47:19,800 apparently sent Stephen Crowder had her lawyer send him a cease and desist letter and 1364 01:47:20,039 --> 01:47:24,119 threatening to sue for defamation and something. It's a whole big thing. I 1365 01:47:24,399 --> 01:47:27,520 love it. I love all the drama. It's fascinating. But the latest 1366 01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:31,960 thing, and this is this gets dark. But now a video has appeared 1367 01:47:32,079 --> 01:47:38,319 online from a couple of years ago, because you know, Crowder and his 1368 01:47:38,399 --> 01:47:43,560 wife, Hilary Crowder are divorcing, and Crowder made a statement about it recently 1369 01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:48,319 on his show and kind of took some shots at his wife in the statement, 1370 01:47:49,039 --> 01:47:51,880 like saying that he picked wrong, he picked the wrong woman or something, 1371 01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:56,640 takes no responsibility himself of course, blames it all on her. But 1372 01:47:56,760 --> 01:48:00,359 then there's a video that was released apparently it had come out in court in 1373 01:48:00,399 --> 01:48:04,239 divorce court of you know, you have ring cameras, and people often have 1374 01:48:04,399 --> 01:48:10,479 ring cameras on, you know, at their front door where their doorbell is. 1375 01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:13,840 There's a ring camera on there that records everything. So if someone tries 1376 01:48:13,880 --> 01:48:16,439 to break into your house or seal a package off your doorstep or whatnot, 1377 01:48:16,479 --> 01:48:21,680 they're recorded while Crowder apparently had also a ring camera for security reasons in his 1378 01:48:23,159 --> 01:48:30,079 backyard effectively where the pool is outdoors, and this ring camera caught an interaction 1379 01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:33,039 that Stephen Crowder was having with his wife, who at that time was eight 1380 01:48:33,199 --> 01:48:39,119 months pregnant. And it's it's about what is it a three minute video? 1381 01:48:39,399 --> 01:48:43,239 It's fascinating to watch, but in a very dark way because it's essentially three 1382 01:48:43,279 --> 01:48:50,239 minutes of Stephen Crowder verbally abusing in a truly just malevolent and maniacal way, 1383 01:48:50,520 --> 01:48:57,119 verbally no physical abuse, but verbally abusing his wife. And it's like a 1384 01:48:57,399 --> 01:49:03,199 it's weird, sort of almost like a caricature of the patriarchy in terms of 1385 01:49:03,359 --> 01:49:06,479 he's he's saying things to her like, you know, you refuse to do 1386 01:49:06,600 --> 01:49:12,399 your wifely duties and things like that, and you know, uh, the 1387 01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:15,840 only way to you know, you need to respect me and obey me. 1388 01:49:16,039 --> 01:49:23,840 It's it's it's wild, it's nuts. And um Crowder's public image seems to 1389 01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:30,560 be deteriorating rapidly because now Candas Owens, Candas Owens put up a video calling 1390 01:49:30,840 --> 01:49:34,000 Stephen Crowder a monster, and uh, I don't often agree with candas Owens, 1391 01:49:34,359 --> 01:49:39,439 but I agree with Candas Owens on this. He is h he's a 1392 01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:44,159 really apparently too. There's an accusation that you know, he had major surgery. 1393 01:49:44,199 --> 01:49:46,800 Stephen Crowder had major surgery. Candas Owens is claiming the Crowder lied about 1394 01:49:46,880 --> 01:49:53,439 that and it was actually an elective surgery. Um, it was cosmetic. 1395 01:49:53,920 --> 01:49:57,960 It's very very weird stuff. But check it out online if you're curious. 1396 01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:01,760 Uh Stephen Crowder. Wow that guy. That guy's a piece of work. 1397 01:50:02,279 --> 01:50:06,439 But he's got that cushy deal at Rumble, so shed no tears for him. 1398 01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:09,359 All Right, we gotta go. We are out of time. I'm 1399 01:50:09,399 --> 01:50:14,279 going to close out with this Ramez Grung performance from Rob's show from a number 1400 01:50:14,319 --> 01:50:16,840 of years ago on Granted State of Mind, him performing the Bob Dylan cover. 1401 01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:19,239 It Ain't Me Babe. It's really good. It's really good. But 1402 01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:25,000 Rames is gonna be tomorrow night at the Hopknot beginning at seven pm, performing 1403 01:50:25,079 --> 01:50:27,880 live our amazing sponsor. They got a lot going on, We got a 1404 01:50:27,920 --> 01:50:30,000 lot going on here. Of course, Friday's our big day. I will 1405 01:50:30,039 --> 01:50:32,760 be back, big day of the week. I mean, I don't mean, 1406 01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:35,199 I don't mean this Friday is especially a big day, but I just 1407 01:50:35,279 --> 01:50:41,039 mean it's a big day. Fridays are big here, busy. I'll be 1408 01:50:41,159 --> 01:50:45,720 back tonight for Retrospection Radio with Paul c from eight to eleven PM. Always 1409 01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:48,119 a good time. Look forward to that and I hope to see see some 1410 01:50:48,199 --> 01:50:51,439 of you find folks in the Facebook live chat for that show, as you 1411 01:50:51,560 --> 01:50:55,760 often are and we appreciate that. And if you miss any part of today's 1412 01:50:55,800 --> 01:50:58,640 show it we'll be up in just a little bit at WMH radio dot org 1413 01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:00,960 and on my website matt Erton dot com. That's it, I gotta go. 1414 01:51:01,359 --> 01:51:05,199 I leave you with this Fromezgerung and his cover of it Ain't Me Babe, 1415 01:51:05,279 --> 01:51:10,119 as performed on Rob Azavito's Granite State of Mind.