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city of Vancouver, this has the edge of seat. How did it happen?
The Boston Bruins. I want to Stanley coup what so it's definitely regret.
All was the firelight? You know, I got swept up in it.
These folks are not hockey fans. They will not be able to hide.
These Vulgarians defecated on the reputation of one of Canada's first cities. All
of this has been tweeted or fed live on you name it. It is
out there for police to use for the future. Rioters are now being hunted
on Facebook, Twitter and Tumblr. And I had friends blowing up my phone
and saying, have you seen the news? Have you seen the Internet?
You should check your Facebook. KFI AM six forty years later with mo Kelly,
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. On June fifteenth, eleven,
the Vancouver Cannects Game seven Stanley Cup Finals loss to the Boston Bruins sparked a
massive riot in downtown Vancouver. Police cars were overturned and burned, windows shattered,
stores looted, thousands were part of the Mayhem. The new ESPN thirty
for thirty documentary film I'm Just Here for The Riot chronicles the Riot, its
aftermath and continuing legacy, premiering tomorrow, June fourth on ESPN and streaming on
ESPN Plus. I'm Just Here for The Riot, as directed by Vancouver based
filmmakers Kat Jamie and Asia young Men, who both join me now on the
line. Kat Asia, how are you ladies doing this evening? Good?
Thank you, thanks for having us. Kat. Let me start with you.
The US is not unfamiliar with riots, or even sports riots, but
I'm not sure the same can be said about Canada. You don't often hear
about sports riots, and you almost never hear about sports riots in the city
of the losing team. What was it about this game which led the city
of Vancouver down this path? Well, actually, you know what's so interesting
is that you kind of think that losing teams would riot just because of the
frustration after a losing but it's actually the opposite. So through our research,
we found that there was a study conducted over hundreds of sports rights in North
America and Vancouver is actually the only city that riots after a loss it's actually
jubilation that turns into riotous behavior that's more common, and so in Vancouver.
What's interesting about this though, is that this is the second time it's happened
in Vancouver. So Vancouver we lost in nineteen ninety four for the exact same
reason and we rioted, and then it happened again in twenty eleven. Asia,
you both watched the game and riot from inside the city. At what
point did either of you, you Asia or you Cat? At what point
did you know that the anger was going to spill over into the streets.
Yeah, so I was actually downtown watching the game outside of CBC on West
Georgia Street, where kind of the main riots started, and I remember the
energy that was in the air when we realized that there was no coming back,
you know, I think it was about three zero at that time.
We realized that we weren't going to win Game seven, and that disappointment just
really spread throughout the crowd of thousands of people, and people started chanting.
At one point, someone threw a bottle at the screen, and it was
scary for me because I was nineteen at the time. I felt like something
was going to happen, and so my friends that I decided to leave,
and probably a couple of minutes after I left the West Georgia Street, I
saw you know, dark smoke billowing up over a high rise and I had
heard that a car had been flipped and lit on fire. And luckily I
left the city pretty quickly. But I remember getting home and looking you know,
on TV and seeing the destruction that was happening, and it was very
shocking as someone who is from Vancouver and just seeing that, you know,
this has happening for a second time in Vancouver as well. Kat As I
listened to Asia, she reminds me of something which makes this very personal.
It's one thing to see a riot unfold on TV. It's another thing to
experience it on the ground level, where your own personal safety has to be
taken into account. What is it that you may gain from watching I'm just
here for the riot because we're watching it from a distance, not experience it
as you did firsthand. What's what's different about experiencing it on the ground firsthand?
Of course, it's a I'm more heartbreaking for Asian I as well,
because we are from Vancouver and just to see your own like your your neighbors,
kind of destroying the place that you go hang out with your friends or
you know, you know, the streets that you that you walk and the
stores that you visit and frequent for no like, there is no righteous cause
that we were you know, that the city was fighting for. So it
was just it's very puzzling, very disturbing, very heartbreaking. One of the
goals of the film though, is to really play audiences like we want to
make audiences feel like they were there that night. So, you know,
we had a great editing team, and you know that the riot sequence is
pretty it's quite intense, and you know, we wanted to make it that
way because we really wanted to make you feel like you were there, and
so we kind of chose some of the most outrageous, infuriating footage from the
riots that we had access to to include in the film. Asia. As
I talk about experiencing the riot firsthand, ground level, there's probably something that
you might have learned in doing this documentary. I'm just here for the riot.
You may have learned something or experienced it from a different vantage point.
Was there anything new for you in this process that you might have learned or
realized in this compilation of these moments within the riot. Yeah, I think
for Kat and myself, we both learned so much by chatting with folks who,
you know, maybe participated in the riot, what led up to that
decision to participate in the riot. A lot of them were quite young at
the time, had maybe gone downtown with no intention of getting involved, but
were just curious, or you know, they had heard of the nineteen ninety
four ride and wanted maybe their own photos and videos from that night. So
I think for us, I think just learning about why people decided to participate,
looking at mob mentality as a factor of maybe why someone might get caught
up in that type of behavior or maybe make a decision to leave. There's
a lot of conversations about was the media to blame before showing footage from nineteen
ninety four and putting that idea into people's heads. But at the same time,
the police department didn't want to have any conversations about the potential of a
riot, right. So I think even though it had happened in nineteen eighty
four, we were still very unprepared for twenty eleven. And I think because
smartphones were so prevalent and kind of changed the outcome of that event, And
of course seeing what happened on social media of an online witch hunt was what
really separated those two particular riots. And I think when we talk to a
lot of people who were targeted online were canceled online, everyone said that the
repercussions of social media were a lot worse than what they faced in terms of
a sentence in court. So I think just seeing the dangers of what happens
when we take things into our own hands online and how people can essentially separate
someone by being behind like a keyboard and writing hurtful comments. They don't really
think about people being humans in a way. So there was so much that
we learned. It's hard to pinpoint exactly one thing, but I certainly took
away a lot from making the film and also just thinking more about my own
relationship with social media and how I interact with it as well. I know,
as a hockey fan, I know as a sports historian, the importance
of hockey as the national winter sport for the country of Canada. How much,
if all, did that figure into the feeling that Vancouver should have won.
I know there was controversy about how the series was officiated. I remember
this firsthand. How much of it was actually connected to the game and sport
and how much of it was just connected to mob mentality? Do you think?
I mean my opinion, it was a bit of both. Like it
was like the utter disappointment and it was the fashion that that connects how how
we lost, you know, the fact that we were up in that series.
We were we were such a great team. We were you know,
we won the President's Trophy that year. And the way I think at each
game just you could you could you could sense the tension, and you could
feel it in the air, like as soon as we lost one game and
then we lost the next, and now we have to go we were going
to game seven, and then you know, as soon as the Boston scored,
I think there was like a stat like the first the first team that
scores in a you know, a game seven finals usually the team that wins,
so like that, then that's up against us now, and and so
I think it was just a very very nerve wracking time for the city.
And then of course at the back of everyone's mind is that last time we
lost, we rioted, So is that can happen again? So again,
a lot of factors that went into this riot. I'm just here for the
Riot chronicles the aftermath of the twenty eleven Game seven Stanley Cup Finals Riot.
It premieres tomorrow, June fourth, on ESPN and streams on ESPN Plus.
It's directors Kat Jamie and Asia Youngman. Thank you for what you've done and
congratulations on your wonderful documentary. Thanks much. Bo you're listening to Later with
Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty. And I've made it very
clear I love the movies. I love the idea of going to the movies
less so in recent years because I can get everything that I want at home,
even the movie that I want, if I'm willing to be patient.
If you look at the box office this week, there were no major new
releases. The box office is off to a hideous start for this summer,
just in terms of box office receipts. When you have Garfield is out for
a second week, the Garfield movie. Week one, it came in second
place. Week two. This week it came in in first place with only
fourteen million for a domestic total of fifty one million. That's not a good
start to the summer movie season at all, and it's not a movie that's
for me. I get that, but there's really nothing that's offered as an
alternative for moviegoers like me. Garfield has gross one hundred and fifty two million.
The movie itself is doing well, but not good enough to prop up
the whole movie theater industry. And it's not the responsibility of one movie to
do that, but some movie has to do that. Because it's the summer
movie season. Kids are out of school, depending on the school so there
needs to be an emphasis for people to go to the movies seventies a week,
not just Friday, Saturday, Sunday, to keep these movie theaters opens.
Wallace Sharp, you actually went to see Garfield? Yes? I did.
Did you go to see it or did you take your kids to see
it? I took my daughter to go see it, and conversely, interestingly
enough, my son, who I dropped off at the mall to hang out
with his friends, him and his friends, they also decide to go see
it. They're a bunch of seventeen almost eighteen year olds. Eighteen year olds,
right, so they all wanted to go see you know, hey,
they like Garfield, they like cats, and cat movies and things like that,
and of course yes, I took my daughter. Theater was packed.
It was to the point where what's the city. We went to the Tapanga
the Tapanga mall okay, yeah, And I was at the Tapanga diaing in
and actually, no, my son went to the Depended Dying ind though that
was sold out, the regular non three D show, and I don't like
three D movies, so we actually and my daughter actually went over to Northridge,
so we split up to see it my theater where me and my daughter
packed. My son said his theater was packed. It was all packed.
Conversely, Furiosa was not packed. And I asked the people at the theater,
it's like, hey, so FiOS to do for the same show at
this time, Like oh, there's no one in there. I'm like,
okay, got it. I did not like it as much as when I
saw the test screening of the film. Both me and my daughter agreed because
the test screening was a lot more entertaining. They took out a whole lot
of story and they simplified it and dumbed it down, and I was like,
wow, this is actually not as compelling a story. Seeing it in
its final final iteration. Would there be a director's cut? Do you think
they could stuff some of that back? They might be able to, and
they should, because there's a lot of humor and there's a lot of heart
that they cut out to sacrifice and just go with a really run of the
mill story. They the way they edited it. I did not enjoy it
like I did, but the kids that did, literally in my theater,
they started clapping and cheering in the end. I don't know what presence Garfield
has these days. Is there a TV show, a cartooning, No,
there's nothing, And I'm thinking this might be like the lead into like a
new series. Maybe this is how they're going to try to reintroduce them,
because, uh, the theater was packed with parents, primarily with younger kids.
I'd say, like a lot of parents with tin and under was the
main audience that we saw. But you know a lot of the adults in
there, they liked it. A lot of the adults. I mean you
could see they were visibly enjoying it. They were awake. I took a
quick, quick nap, quick quick nap and even record you no, no,
no no. My daughter was like daddy, I still wanted to take
a nap to but the kid next to me kept bumping my seats. I
couldn't sleep. How did Chris Pratt do? It's great? Chris Pratt as
the voice of Garfield, Great, Sam Jackson as Garfield's father. Great,
everyone was great. A couple of weird cameos that actually weren't in the original,
Like there was some voice work from Snoop. Then I was like,
when did they add Snoop? And why did they add Snoop? Not that
I just like Snoop, but it was just so like, like we know
that you Snoop? It was it didn't he didn't try to mask. He's
got a great agent. He didn't know. Hey, so it's got the
best agent. So yeah, so you could definitely hear Snoop's voice in there.
But yeah, I can see why Garfield's number one. Is it because
that it's a decent movie or is it because there's just no competition? It
is because there is nothing else for parents to take their kids to see.
Now that it's getting closer to summer, And these were the earlier shows.
I don't know about maybe the shows that you know, seven Pass, they
were probably going to be a little emptier, but all the daytime shows they
were all packed, and you could see the theaters were packed with parents with
kids outside. There were kids playing in the little garden that they have outside
of the North Rist Theater. It was a lot of kids in the building
at this point. If you haven't seen Furiosa, you're probably not going to
go to the movie theater by and large to see it. You're going to
either not see it at all, or you wait till it appears on some
streaming service that took a serious hit. Yeah, yeah it did. If
it's not doing particularly well either in its third week. There's just really no
big box office blockbusters that are either coming very soon. I mean Bad Boys
four, that's not a big blockbuster movie. It's not primed to do a
half a billion dollars. But you know what's interesting about Bad Boys for and
also Furiosa, Each one of these movies that has come out has claimed that
the summer begins now, because that was that was the tagline for Fiosa.
The summer begins now with Firiosa, which arguably for Memorial Day weekend it should
have. But now Bad Boys four is like the summer actually begins with Bad
Boys for and it's coming out when nothing else is out, so it's gonna
do really good first weekend. Well, we'll see. And this is why
I would recaution here. Will Smith is fifty five, Martin Lawrence is maybe
fifty six fifty seven. I don't know how much appeal they have to the
twenty five in under crowd, and you need them to really propel a movie.
Am I gonna see it? Yes? Absolutely, But I saw the
first three when they came out, and their contemporaries of us. You know,
we're in the same age group, So yeah, I would actually see
that. But I don't know if that goes the way of furiosa, where
you're really speaking to a segment of the movie going population, not the wide
variety of moviegoers. What say you, Mark, I say, make Will
Smith eat a hole lasagna and shove od off a table. And I'm in
nothing, really nothing nothing. Give me some crickets for that. Yeah,
yeah, Robin, you gotta get ready with the crickets. At least we've
definitely not gott to get a rim shot. Yeah, crickets are a rim
shot. You gotta have your fingers on those two buttons constantly aren't we going
to Bad Boys on Friday? Yeah? Yeah, no, y'all are going.
I'm not going. How are you getting out of this? I gotta
go, And you're not going because I'll be in a different state getting ready
to deliver a eulogy for a funeral. So you'll go to those lengths to
get out of seeing that movie. That is a logical progression of thought.
Yes, okay, Yeah, that's great. Thanks for the loyalty. Appreciate
it. Sorry, you know he calls or death whichever. Well, if
that's what you got to do to get out of it. Yeah, look,
I will get on a plane and fly to get away from you,
spend the night with no hair. Maybe this is going to be a direct
flight to Maryland. Okay, all right, Well, appreciate it. So
I guess it's just me and Tawala and Foush doggy dog. I think he's
back. I'm coming down with something. Actually, I'm not feeling very well,
right we are you afraid that he's going to get back at you?
Yeah? Why would he do that? We don't. We don't do that
here, we don't. We don't do revenge. That's that's very vindictive.
Yeah, listen, I recorded him snoring out of love as a friend.
That's how you're going to tell that story is an intervention because I because I
care about him. Oh, there was no malice involved in recording him while
he was snoring louder than most people can yell in the middle of furiosa.
It's still there was nothing funnier than when he started himself with his popcorn on
this stomach and the popcorn went everywhere. Yeah, everywhere. I wish I
had filmed it. Now. Where I went wrong was only recording the audio
and not just filming the whole thing. Well, you guys are gonna have
to have some fun without me. But it's a dismal box office season as
of yet, and we're just, for the most part waiting for Deadpool Wolverine.
Yeah, got the tickets for that, you know, Mark. Actually,
I'm looking at the tickets and I just remembered I need to get my
break serviced on Friday. I thought I got tickets for bad Boy at two,
but this says twelve, so that he'll still be asleep. Yeah,
what are you trying to do to me? Yeah, no, no,
no, I don't think we can go if I can find a later show,
I will well, things are looking up. Nah, okay, then
please keep me posted. Speaking of things looking up, Disney Plus is now
officially started passwords sharing crackdown. I know that's not looking up, that's actually
looking down. We'll talk about that when we come back. If I AIM
six forty live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app, you're listening too later with Moe
Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty. We have talked about streaming and
the growth of the streaming market, the evolution of the streaming market. Some
things I was right about, some things I was very wrong about. One
of the things I was very wrong about, and I have no problem admitting
it. About a year ago, Netflix had announced that they were going to
be cracked down on password sharing, and I thought it was a bad idea.
I thought that they would lose subscribers. I thought they were going to
push their own subscriber base to other platforms. It didn't work out that way,
and it's a copycat, copycat game. It worked out wonderfully for Netflix,
and then the rest of the streaming platforms have been falling in line.
I didn't think it would go this direction, but it has. Disney Plus.
It hasn't started here in America as of yet. That won't be until
September, but get ready for it. They've started in other countries around the
world. Disney Plus has started blocking passwords sharing between friends and family. The
decision to force each household to have their own account was here. It is
specifically inspired by Netflix, and the move will prevent customers from sharing their login
details with people outside of their household. If it's anything structurally like Netflix,
it probably will require you if you're not on the home Wi Fi where the
account is registered, you'll probably have to log in your account on that home
Wi Fi every so often, maybe every thirty or sixty days, to prove
that you're a part of the household, and then you'll be able to use
it elsewhere. But like, for example, I share it. I have
no problem saying this. I share my Disney Plus account with my mother.
I pay for it. She comes over to my house every now and then,
but for the most part she's at her house. I may have to
get her an account because I'm not gonna make her come over to my house
just so she could log in her laptop or something to have the Disney Plus
coverage. And it's going to force people to make this decision. I still
think in the long run, I don't know if they're endearing customers to folks,
but it is coming. The band will start in a few countries first,
according to Bob Iger, including the UK and the US will deal with
this in September. It will prevent customers from sharing the log in details with
people outside of their household. Subscribers will be charged an additional fee to watch
Disney Plus on multiple devices outside their home, just like Netflix. As I
said, it's because of Netflix Netflix's success, Disney is doing this. Disney
Plus will track its users' IP addresses, as well as device IDs and account
activity to determine whether viewers are in the same household or not. In Disney
Plus's UK help center, its states quote you may not share your subscription outside
of your household, and the definition of a household is the primary personal residence
of the account that pays the bills and the devices under that roof. Like
I said the home Wi Fi, only people who live in the primary personal
residence will be able to watch from the Disney Plus linked to that address.
Subscribers will be able to watch it outside of their home, but only for
a limited amount of time. In Disney's new subscriber agreements to states, quote,
unless otherwise permitted by your service plan, you may not share your subscription
outside of your household. Mark, do you have Disney Plus? I have
a friend's Disney Plus. And I don't like this totalitarian routine here. No,
I don't like it all After Netflix is a crackdown a Netflix. Their
profits went up in the first quarter to climb to more than one point to
No. Two point three billion and increase total subscribers to two hundred and seventy
million. It worked, and it worked like gangbusters. Well, I'm sure
they were struggling. They needed the money. Well, you know, here
we go. Mark is capitalism. They're in the business of making money,
not altruism. No, no, nobody could ever mistake this for that,
right, right, right, So people gonna have to make some decisions.
I don't know right now. I have a year subscription and I probably won't
renew it. But if I do, it will be with the new bundle.
And I don't know how I'm going to handle my mother and other folks.
You know, just gonna see you're on your own, mom. Sorry,
Well it depends. I don't think she uses it as much as I
know. She doesn't use it as much as I do. It's just a
point of I want it available whenever she wants to use it. Mom's not
a big Mandalorian fan, No, but she would watch the Disney movies like
Soul or the Pixar movies things like that. She definitely watch those. Okay,
so she would. She has utility for it, but she's not using
it for all the series like you and I are. Twala Wood. Well,
then you won't feel bad about cutting her off. No, I would
feel bad because I'd like to have it wherever she wants something or needs something.
She need not ask, It's already there. I pay for most of
her streaming stuff. It's just easier, Yeah, because it's just easier for
me to set up on her device, download the apps, that kind of
thing, and just go. It's just easier. I think it's time to
get a little bit more ruthless with moms since things are going up in cost.
No, I'll tell you this, and she probably won't like me telling
you this, or telling the world. My mother came from a different time.
In fact, my father was very different. He was he was going
to handle all the bills. He's going to do everything. In fact,
he gas up all the cars. My mother does not put gas in her
car. I put gas in her car. She lets me know when she's
low on gas, and I drive over and I take her car and I
fill it up. Does she live far from you? About ten miles from
me? Could you put gas in my car? Yeah? If you were
my mother, But you're not. Well, you're not my daddy in any
literal sense of either. Hear of those. No, No, I cannot
ask twallet. He's closer to you, all right, whichever works, that's
fine. No, No, I mean he is literally closer to you right
now, and closer to you as far as where you live. Also,
i'd like a Disney subscription when I get cut off on my friend's thing.
That's fine, that's fine. I can't help you with that either, But
yeah, you're welcome to ass up. Well, anything else that you would
like that you won't get. It. Hasn't been the most productive conversation we've
ever had, has been. No. We saw us so well, we
were agreeing on everything, and now we have nothing in common. Yeah,
thanks for nothing. Okay, moving on, yes, okay, at least
you didn't get a rim shot. That's all the matter. Someone's catching on.
It's Later with mo Kelly. When we come back, we'll check in
with George North Coast to Coast am in just a moment. And also,
do not forget. Before the week is out, we will be giving away
tickets to Disney's The Little Mermaid at La Marada Theater. Do not think that
we've forgotten about that. And tomorrow we'll give away another pair of tickets to
super Freak, the Rick James Story. So much good stuff coming your way.
Just keep on listening. You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand
from KFI AM six boarding. Before we get out of here, Mark,
Yes, I'm waiting on your apology. Okay, you hurt my feelings for
what exactly, just what you just You never apologize, So I just want
a blanket apology, Just a blanket apology. It's coming. It's on the
way. Just stand by for that, all right, open one, I'll
keep you fuck all right. Let's talk about Ticketmaster before we get out of
here. Ticketmaster's parent company says it's investigating a possible data breach after a group
of hackers claimed to have stolen the personal information of five hundred and sixty million
Ticketmaster customers. Five hundred and sixty million. It doesn't say how far back
this data may go, but I assume if you've purchased tickets in the past
twenty years, your information probably probably not definitely, but probably was contained in
the five hundred and sixty million. And what do I always say, I
say it just about every month at some point. The whole idea of privacy
is an illusion. If you think that you haven't had your data exposed at
some point, you're probably deluding yourself, be it medical information, private information.
It's out there and it may not be something that you personally chose to
do. It may not be any fault of your own. But because we
live in this digital age, and for the most part, we're forced to
give out our information here and there, it's going to get out there eventually.
In a securities filing, Ticketmaster owner Live Nation said it identified unauthorized activity
within a third party cloud database environment containing company data. Back on May twentieth,
the hacking group Shiny Hunters claimed it had obtained one point three terabytes of
Ticketmaster user data, including names, addresses, phone numbers, as well as
order details and credit card information. The hackers were selling the debt the data
on the dark web for five hundred thousand dollars. Ticketmaster's parent company says it
is in investigating a possible data breach and they're trying to see where it will
lead. A week later, the hacking group shining Hunters as a fright excuse
me Live Nation said there was no evidence that the data breach had a material
impact on its business operations. What about a material impact on our lives?
They just take their word for it. Another reason to love them, right,
Well, but I think of it this way. It's nice to know
that it didn't bother you ticket Mastered anyway. No, no, no,
didn't have a material impact on our operations. Well that's fine, But I
don't care whether it impacted you. I care whether it impacted me. Can
you tell me of my data is out there? The only thing they're saying
is no, you know, we're just moving ahead, business as usual.
The company added that it is working to mitigate risk to its users and has
notified law enforcement. Oh great, so they called the police. What does
that do for me? Well, listen, the important thing is that Ticketmaster
is okay, And and you would think Ticketmaster would be a little bit more
delicate with giving customers more bad news given all the bad press that it's been
receiving for the past year or so, or at least break it a little
nicer like the old cats on the roof story, you know. According to
the DOJ, Shiny Hunters as marketed stolen data from over sixty companies in the
US and globally since early twenty twenty. They are busy. Quote. The
victims range from tech companies to an international stock trading company, to an apparel
company and a nutrition and fitness company. Millions of customer records were included in
the stolen data. Yeah, and this cyber attack comes as Ticketmaster faces legal
battles. We handed at that back on May twenty third, the DOJ and
thirty state and district attorneys general filed a federal lawsuit against Live Nation allegend it
was a monopoly. We talked about that, and if the suit doesn't reshape
Ticketmaster, then probably this data breach. Well, there's nothing positive for Live
Nation or Ticketmaster this point. This company is not going to survive as it's
presently constructed if there was a list of the most hated companies in the United
States, where do you think Ticketmaster would fall on that. I don't know
if everyone understands that Ticketmaster is the devil. Yeah, yeah, I think
they have gone under the radar, if only because not everyone buys concert tickets,
but if you have bought a concert ticket in the last what, I
don't know, thirty years, Yeah, they're on your radar. They may
be on their radar, but I think they've been on people's radar more for
the past two to three years because of their dynamic pricing, because people have
been more vocal about their complaints. But that's just more recently. I don't
know if that's always been the case, but yeah, they are moving up
the lists quickly. Ticketmaster completely separate from Live Nation. I'm not really clear
on how Live Nation is the parent company for Ticketmasters. Okay, thank you?
So I hate them both, Well, yeah, they're basically one in
the same. Got you know. I don't know if it's Ticketmaster live Nation
a Live Nation Ticketmaster, but they're inseparable, a pox on their one house.
Yeah, they are basically Siamese twins. Can I say that anymore?
Yeah? Conjoined twins is so boring. Okay, Siamese is much more interesting.
It's more yucks with Siamese. All right. I just want to make
sure because my goal is to be politically correct at all times. A plus,
did I fall short? No? No, you're doing great. Okay,
it's it's been good to be with you on your final show. I
can joined whatever they might have been from Siam. Yeah, yeah, I
mean I like those Siamese cats. What's what's wrong with the twins? What's
what's funny? What's funny that evolved? No? Seriously, when you think
of evil companies, does Ticketmaster even rise to that level? You know,
I haven't bought a concert ticket in the longest way. Like the last time
I bought concert tickets, I bought them directly from the Hollywood Bowl from their
website, so it didn't go through Ticketmaster and I, and they were very
upfront with the costs, like like even after the final tally, it wasn't
like the tickets were fifty dollars face value, and all of a sudden I
get hit with one hundred and fifty dollars bill. No Hollywood Bowl face value
tickets. Perfect. I would not though I would not be against putting a
pox on the house of Live Nation Ticketmaster, because I know how much they
have reamed. Can you say that Fox Fox? Yeah? Oh, my
co pair would buy tickets to like tell Us with or Beyonce or whatever,
take in our daughter to these shows and she's always like, oh my god,
these fees on the back end when they get you. I usually try
to buy directly from the house, not go through a Ticketmaster or a ticket
broker. I'm saying calling someone over there. I'm not trying to get tickets
online. Just can't do it, can't do it. Tell me, though,
do you not think of Ticketmaster and I guess Live Nation in the same
way that you think of an insurance company, in that they're just parasites who
contribute nothing. Yeah, but it's more abstract for me, if only because
working in the music industry, there was a good fifteen years where I paid
for not one concert ticket, not one, so there was no animosity to
be had. My connection to Ticketmaster is only through news articles. Now.
I don't have any personal animus because I haven't been subjected to that. Every
concept that I've been to since I don't know when has been because of passes
or press showings or or whatever. So as long as they've been fleecing everybody
else but you, No, no, no, I've talked about it that
no no, no, I said, I talked about it. I have
no problem talking about the stories. I just don't have a first person point
of reference of paying these large fees because I never would ever. It's just
what those things were. I just won't go. I'm not going to pay
four times the face value of the ticket or whatever it is because of all
these fees which are added on to go see a performer. I've seen everyone
I want to see, and anyone that I do want to see, I
will call in a favor, a chit or something. Well, I think
I need to exploit our friendship more than I have been. But is there
a way to get around those fees, like if you if you actually physically
go to the box office of the place, or is it just unavoidable?
Is it fate they still charge you a service fee. There's a service fee,
but you don't pay all the ticketmaster fees. If I'm not mistaken,
if you go to the box office. A part of that is that convenience
fear of whatever it is of purchasing them online. Yeah, the hell with
them, just download stuff. I mean, can't doubt that's the life.
Yeah, how are you gonna do that? Never mind, look at the
time. We will see you tomorrow. We'll be joined on the show by
Stokely, who is the star of Super Freak, The Rick James Story.
We will be giving away a pair of tickets, and maybe we'll give away
some Disney The Little Mermaid tickets as well for Lamarade Theater. All I know
is we're gonna be giving away something tomorrow because that's how we do it.
Here on later with Mo Kelly can if. I am six forty. We're
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