WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.720 --> 00:00:08.160 You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty This 2 00:00:08.359 --> 00:00:13.720 city of Vancouver, this has the edge of seat. How did it happen? 3 00:00:13.839 --> 00:00:18.800 The Boston Bruins. I want to Stanley coup what so it's definitely regret. 4 00:00:19.839 --> 00:00:23.519 All was the firelight? You know, I got swept up in it. 5 00:00:26.079 --> 00:00:30.640 These folks are not hockey fans. They will not be able to hide. 6 00:00:30.640 --> 00:00:36.840 These Vulgarians defecated on the reputation of one of Canada's first cities. All 7 00:00:36.880 --> 00:00:41.359 of this has been tweeted or fed live on you name it. It is 8 00:00:41.439 --> 00:00:45.600 out there for police to use for the future. Rioters are now being hunted 9 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:49.359 on Facebook, Twitter and Tumblr. And I had friends blowing up my phone 10 00:00:49.320 --> 00:00:51.840 and saying, have you seen the news? Have you seen the Internet? 11 00:00:51.960 --> 00:00:55.799 You should check your Facebook. KFI AM six forty years later with mo Kelly, 12 00:00:55.840 --> 00:01:00.399 We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. On June fifteenth, eleven, 13 00:01:00.520 --> 00:01:04.319 the Vancouver Cannects Game seven Stanley Cup Finals loss to the Boston Bruins sparked a 14 00:01:04.480 --> 00:01:10.840 massive riot in downtown Vancouver. Police cars were overturned and burned, windows shattered, 15 00:01:11.000 --> 00:01:15.159 stores looted, thousands were part of the Mayhem. The new ESPN thirty 16 00:01:15.159 --> 00:01:19.079 for thirty documentary film I'm Just Here for The Riot chronicles the Riot, its 17 00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:26.200 aftermath and continuing legacy, premiering tomorrow, June fourth on ESPN and streaming on 18 00:01:26.439 --> 00:01:30.040 ESPN Plus. I'm Just Here for The Riot, as directed by Vancouver based 19 00:01:30.040 --> 00:01:34.719 filmmakers Kat Jamie and Asia young Men, who both join me now on the 20 00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:38.359 line. Kat Asia, how are you ladies doing this evening? Good? 21 00:01:38.439 --> 00:01:41.239 Thank you, thanks for having us. Kat. Let me start with you. 22 00:01:41.439 --> 00:01:45.840 The US is not unfamiliar with riots, or even sports riots, but 23 00:01:45.920 --> 00:01:49.079 I'm not sure the same can be said about Canada. You don't often hear 24 00:01:49.120 --> 00:01:52.680 about sports riots, and you almost never hear about sports riots in the city 25 00:01:52.760 --> 00:01:57.239 of the losing team. What was it about this game which led the city 26 00:01:57.280 --> 00:02:00.480 of Vancouver down this path? Well, actually, you know what's so interesting 27 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:04.840 is that you kind of think that losing teams would riot just because of the 28 00:02:04.840 --> 00:02:09.000 frustration after a losing but it's actually the opposite. So through our research, 29 00:02:09.039 --> 00:02:14.879 we found that there was a study conducted over hundreds of sports rights in North 30 00:02:14.919 --> 00:02:19.639 America and Vancouver is actually the only city that riots after a loss it's actually 31 00:02:19.800 --> 00:02:24.680 jubilation that turns into riotous behavior that's more common, and so in Vancouver. 32 00:02:24.759 --> 00:02:29.039 What's interesting about this though, is that this is the second time it's happened 33 00:02:29.080 --> 00:02:34.599 in Vancouver. So Vancouver we lost in nineteen ninety four for the exact same 34 00:02:34.639 --> 00:02:38.439 reason and we rioted, and then it happened again in twenty eleven. Asia, 35 00:02:38.599 --> 00:02:44.039 you both watched the game and riot from inside the city. At what 36 00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:47.080 point did either of you, you Asia or you Cat? At what point 37 00:02:47.080 --> 00:02:52.080 did you know that the anger was going to spill over into the streets. 38 00:02:52.719 --> 00:02:57.000 Yeah, so I was actually downtown watching the game outside of CBC on West 39 00:02:57.039 --> 00:03:01.080 Georgia Street, where kind of the main riots started, and I remember the 40 00:03:01.199 --> 00:03:06.039 energy that was in the air when we realized that there was no coming back, 41 00:03:06.800 --> 00:03:07.919 you know, I think it was about three zero at that time. 42 00:03:08.439 --> 00:03:14.080 We realized that we weren't going to win Game seven, and that disappointment just 43 00:03:14.120 --> 00:03:19.240 really spread throughout the crowd of thousands of people, and people started chanting. 44 00:03:20.199 --> 00:03:24.039 At one point, someone threw a bottle at the screen, and it was 45 00:03:24.080 --> 00:03:29.319 scary for me because I was nineteen at the time. I felt like something 46 00:03:29.400 --> 00:03:31.199 was going to happen, and so my friends that I decided to leave, 47 00:03:31.639 --> 00:03:36.039 and probably a couple of minutes after I left the West Georgia Street, I 48 00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:39.599 saw you know, dark smoke billowing up over a high rise and I had 49 00:03:39.639 --> 00:03:44.840 heard that a car had been flipped and lit on fire. And luckily I 50 00:03:44.960 --> 00:03:49.439 left the city pretty quickly. But I remember getting home and looking you know, 51 00:03:49.479 --> 00:03:52.520 on TV and seeing the destruction that was happening, and it was very 52 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:57.400 shocking as someone who is from Vancouver and just seeing that, you know, 53 00:03:57.439 --> 00:04:00.759 this has happening for a second time in Vancouver as well. Kat As I 54 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:05.520 listened to Asia, she reminds me of something which makes this very personal. 55 00:04:05.599 --> 00:04:11.759 It's one thing to see a riot unfold on TV. It's another thing to 56 00:04:11.960 --> 00:04:15.199 experience it on the ground level, where your own personal safety has to be 57 00:04:15.279 --> 00:04:20.680 taken into account. What is it that you may gain from watching I'm just 58 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:26.319 here for the riot because we're watching it from a distance, not experience it 59 00:04:26.480 --> 00:04:30.240 as you did firsthand. What's what's different about experiencing it on the ground firsthand? 60 00:04:30.839 --> 00:04:34.319 Of course, it's a I'm more heartbreaking for Asian I as well, 61 00:04:34.360 --> 00:04:40.000 because we are from Vancouver and just to see your own like your your neighbors, 62 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:43.439 kind of destroying the place that you go hang out with your friends or 63 00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:46.160 you know, you know, the streets that you that you walk and the 64 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:49.079 stores that you visit and frequent for no like, there is no righteous cause 65 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:51.639 that we were you know, that the city was fighting for. So it 66 00:04:51.720 --> 00:04:57.560 was just it's very puzzling, very disturbing, very heartbreaking. One of the 67 00:04:57.600 --> 00:05:00.839 goals of the film though, is to really play audiences like we want to 68 00:05:00.839 --> 00:05:03.879 make audiences feel like they were there that night. So, you know, 69 00:05:04.079 --> 00:05:09.079 we had a great editing team, and you know that the riot sequence is 70 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:12.360 pretty it's quite intense, and you know, we wanted to make it that 71 00:05:12.439 --> 00:05:15.160 way because we really wanted to make you feel like you were there, and 72 00:05:15.199 --> 00:05:21.199 so we kind of chose some of the most outrageous, infuriating footage from the 73 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:27.240 riots that we had access to to include in the film. Asia. As 74 00:05:27.279 --> 00:05:31.839 I talk about experiencing the riot firsthand, ground level, there's probably something that 75 00:05:31.879 --> 00:05:35.720 you might have learned in doing this documentary. I'm just here for the riot. 76 00:05:35.959 --> 00:05:40.519 You may have learned something or experienced it from a different vantage point. 77 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:44.959 Was there anything new for you in this process that you might have learned or 78 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:49.720 realized in this compilation of these moments within the riot. Yeah, I think 79 00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:54.680 for Kat and myself, we both learned so much by chatting with folks who, 80 00:05:55.319 --> 00:05:58.879 you know, maybe participated in the riot, what led up to that 81 00:05:58.959 --> 00:06:01.560 decision to participate in the riot. A lot of them were quite young at 82 00:06:01.560 --> 00:06:06.480 the time, had maybe gone downtown with no intention of getting involved, but 83 00:06:06.519 --> 00:06:11.000 were just curious, or you know, they had heard of the nineteen ninety 84 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:15.199 four ride and wanted maybe their own photos and videos from that night. So 85 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:20.000 I think for us, I think just learning about why people decided to participate, 86 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:25.959 looking at mob mentality as a factor of maybe why someone might get caught 87 00:06:26.040 --> 00:06:30.680 up in that type of behavior or maybe make a decision to leave. There's 88 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:34.240 a lot of conversations about was the media to blame before showing footage from nineteen 89 00:06:34.279 --> 00:06:38.759 ninety four and putting that idea into people's heads. But at the same time, 90 00:06:39.800 --> 00:06:43.560 the police department didn't want to have any conversations about the potential of a 91 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:46.920 riot, right. So I think even though it had happened in nineteen eighty 92 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:50.639 four, we were still very unprepared for twenty eleven. And I think because 93 00:06:50.680 --> 00:06:56.079 smartphones were so prevalent and kind of changed the outcome of that event, And 94 00:06:56.439 --> 00:07:00.839 of course seeing what happened on social media of an online witch hunt was what 95 00:07:00.920 --> 00:07:06.639 really separated those two particular riots. And I think when we talk to a 96 00:07:06.639 --> 00:07:15.439 lot of people who were targeted online were canceled online, everyone said that the 97 00:07:15.480 --> 00:07:18.800 repercussions of social media were a lot worse than what they faced in terms of 98 00:07:18.839 --> 00:07:24.079 a sentence in court. So I think just seeing the dangers of what happens 99 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:29.399 when we take things into our own hands online and how people can essentially separate 100 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:33.759 someone by being behind like a keyboard and writing hurtful comments. They don't really 101 00:07:34.079 --> 00:07:39.079 think about people being humans in a way. So there was so much that 102 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:41.959 we learned. It's hard to pinpoint exactly one thing, but I certainly took 103 00:07:42.000 --> 00:07:46.240 away a lot from making the film and also just thinking more about my own 104 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:49.000 relationship with social media and how I interact with it as well. I know, 105 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:54.040 as a hockey fan, I know as a sports historian, the importance 106 00:07:54.199 --> 00:07:59.720 of hockey as the national winter sport for the country of Canada. How much, 107 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:05.160 if all, did that figure into the feeling that Vancouver should have won. 108 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:09.120 I know there was controversy about how the series was officiated. I remember 109 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:13.720 this firsthand. How much of it was actually connected to the game and sport 110 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:16.759 and how much of it was just connected to mob mentality? Do you think? 111 00:08:18.360 --> 00:08:20.040 I mean my opinion, it was a bit of both. Like it 112 00:08:20.079 --> 00:08:26.800 was like the utter disappointment and it was the fashion that that connects how how 113 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:30.040 we lost, you know, the fact that we were up in that series. 114 00:08:30.639 --> 00:08:33.039 We were we were such a great team. We were you know, 115 00:08:33.039 --> 00:08:37.159 we won the President's Trophy that year. And the way I think at each 116 00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:41.120 game just you could you could you could sense the tension, and you could 117 00:08:41.159 --> 00:08:45.440 feel it in the air, like as soon as we lost one game and 118 00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:46.519 then we lost the next, and now we have to go we were going 119 00:08:46.519 --> 00:08:50.960 to game seven, and then you know, as soon as the Boston scored, 120 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:52.559 I think there was like a stat like the first the first team that 121 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:56.159 scores in a you know, a game seven finals usually the team that wins, 122 00:08:56.200 --> 00:09:00.200 so like that, then that's up against us now, and and so 123 00:09:00.360 --> 00:09:05.679 I think it was just a very very nerve wracking time for the city. 124 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:09.159 And then of course at the back of everyone's mind is that last time we 125 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:13.279 lost, we rioted, So is that can happen again? So again, 126 00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:18.159 a lot of factors that went into this riot. I'm just here for the 127 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:22.279 Riot chronicles the aftermath of the twenty eleven Game seven Stanley Cup Finals Riot. 128 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:28.440 It premieres tomorrow, June fourth, on ESPN and streams on ESPN Plus. 129 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:31.399 It's directors Kat Jamie and Asia Youngman. Thank you for what you've done and 130 00:09:31.440 --> 00:09:37.960 congratulations on your wonderful documentary. Thanks much. Bo you're listening to Later with 131 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:41.720 Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty. And I've made it very 132 00:09:41.720 --> 00:09:48.960 clear I love the movies. I love the idea of going to the movies 133 00:09:48.919 --> 00:09:54.360 less so in recent years because I can get everything that I want at home, 134 00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:58.080 even the movie that I want, if I'm willing to be patient. 135 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:05.360 If you look at the box office this week, there were no major new 136 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:09.879 releases. The box office is off to a hideous start for this summer, 137 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:16.279 just in terms of box office receipts. When you have Garfield is out for 138 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:20.000 a second week, the Garfield movie. Week one, it came in second 139 00:10:20.039 --> 00:10:24.720 place. Week two. This week it came in in first place with only 140 00:10:24.759 --> 00:10:30.399 fourteen million for a domestic total of fifty one million. That's not a good 141 00:10:30.440 --> 00:10:35.360 start to the summer movie season at all, and it's not a movie that's 142 00:10:35.399 --> 00:10:39.919 for me. I get that, but there's really nothing that's offered as an 143 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:46.080 alternative for moviegoers like me. Garfield has gross one hundred and fifty two million. 144 00:10:46.279 --> 00:10:52.080 The movie itself is doing well, but not good enough to prop up 145 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:56.559 the whole movie theater industry. And it's not the responsibility of one movie to 146 00:10:56.639 --> 00:11:01.279 do that, but some movie has to do that. Because it's the summer 147 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:07.320 movie season. Kids are out of school, depending on the school so there 148 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:11.360 needs to be an emphasis for people to go to the movies seventies a week, 149 00:11:11.639 --> 00:11:15.360 not just Friday, Saturday, Sunday, to keep these movie theaters opens. 150 00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:18.320 Wallace Sharp, you actually went to see Garfield? Yes? I did. 151 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:22.919 Did you go to see it or did you take your kids to see 152 00:11:22.919 --> 00:11:26.399 it? I took my daughter to go see it, and conversely, interestingly 153 00:11:26.559 --> 00:11:31.080 enough, my son, who I dropped off at the mall to hang out 154 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:35.240 with his friends, him and his friends, they also decide to go see 155 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:39.600 it. They're a bunch of seventeen almost eighteen year olds. Eighteen year olds, 156 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:41.919 right, so they all wanted to go see you know, hey, 157 00:11:41.960 --> 00:11:45.440 they like Garfield, they like cats, and cat movies and things like that, 158 00:11:46.519 --> 00:11:48.080 and of course yes, I took my daughter. Theater was packed. 159 00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:52.720 It was to the point where what's the city. We went to the Tapanga 160 00:11:54.399 --> 00:11:58.279 the Tapanga mall okay, yeah, And I was at the Tapanga diaing in 161 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:01.080 and actually, no, my son went to the Depended Dying ind though that 162 00:12:01.279 --> 00:12:05.080 was sold out, the regular non three D show, and I don't like 163 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:07.720 three D movies, so we actually and my daughter actually went over to Northridge, 164 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:11.120 so we split up to see it my theater where me and my daughter 165 00:12:11.519 --> 00:12:15.559 packed. My son said his theater was packed. It was all packed. 166 00:12:15.879 --> 00:12:18.360 Conversely, Furiosa was not packed. And I asked the people at the theater, 167 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:22.200 it's like, hey, so FiOS to do for the same show at 168 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:24.279 this time, Like oh, there's no one in there. I'm like, 169 00:12:24.320 --> 00:12:28.879 okay, got it. I did not like it as much as when I 170 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:35.679 saw the test screening of the film. Both me and my daughter agreed because 171 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:39.320 the test screening was a lot more entertaining. They took out a whole lot 172 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:45.480 of story and they simplified it and dumbed it down, and I was like, 173 00:12:45.639 --> 00:12:50.360 wow, this is actually not as compelling a story. Seeing it in 174 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:54.320 its final final iteration. Would there be a director's cut? Do you think 175 00:12:54.320 --> 00:12:56.279 they could stuff some of that back? They might be able to, and 176 00:12:56.320 --> 00:13:00.639 they should, because there's a lot of humor and there's a lot of heart 177 00:13:00.679 --> 00:13:05.360 that they cut out to sacrifice and just go with a really run of the 178 00:13:05.399 --> 00:13:09.440 mill story. They the way they edited it. I did not enjoy it 179 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:13.759 like I did, but the kids that did, literally in my theater, 180 00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:20.279 they started clapping and cheering in the end. I don't know what presence Garfield 181 00:13:20.360 --> 00:13:24.960 has these days. Is there a TV show, a cartooning, No, 182 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:28.039 there's nothing, And I'm thinking this might be like the lead into like a 183 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:31.320 new series. Maybe this is how they're going to try to reintroduce them, 184 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:37.080 because, uh, the theater was packed with parents, primarily with younger kids. 185 00:13:37.159 --> 00:13:41.799 I'd say, like a lot of parents with tin and under was the 186 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:46.000 main audience that we saw. But you know a lot of the adults in 187 00:13:46.039 --> 00:13:48.360 there, they liked it. A lot of the adults. I mean you 188 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:52.799 could see they were visibly enjoying it. They were awake. I took a 189 00:13:52.960 --> 00:13:58.120 quick, quick nap, quick quick nap and even record you no, no, 190 00:13:58.120 --> 00:14:01.240 no no. My daughter was like daddy, I still wanted to take 191 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:03.159 a nap to but the kid next to me kept bumping my seats. I 192 00:14:03.159 --> 00:14:09.440 couldn't sleep. How did Chris Pratt do? It's great? Chris Pratt as 193 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:15.480 the voice of Garfield, Great, Sam Jackson as Garfield's father. Great, 194 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:20.879 everyone was great. A couple of weird cameos that actually weren't in the original, 195 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:26.240 Like there was some voice work from Snoop. Then I was like, 196 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:28.919 when did they add Snoop? And why did they add Snoop? Not that 197 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:33.799 I just like Snoop, but it was just so like, like we know 198 00:14:33.879 --> 00:14:37.639 that you Snoop? It was it didn't he didn't try to mask. He's 199 00:14:37.679 --> 00:14:39.080 got a great agent. He didn't know. Hey, so it's got the 200 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:43.639 best agent. So yeah, so you could definitely hear Snoop's voice in there. 201 00:14:45.120 --> 00:14:50.120 But yeah, I can see why Garfield's number one. Is it because 202 00:14:50.159 --> 00:14:54.159 that it's a decent movie or is it because there's just no competition? It 203 00:14:54.279 --> 00:14:58.799 is because there is nothing else for parents to take their kids to see. 204 00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:01.519 Now that it's getting closer to summer, And these were the earlier shows. 205 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:05.120 I don't know about maybe the shows that you know, seven Pass, they 206 00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:09.399 were probably going to be a little emptier, but all the daytime shows they 207 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:13.519 were all packed, and you could see the theaters were packed with parents with 208 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:18.960 kids outside. There were kids playing in the little garden that they have outside 209 00:15:18.039 --> 00:15:22.360 of the North Rist Theater. It was a lot of kids in the building 210 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:28.159 at this point. If you haven't seen Furiosa, you're probably not going to 211 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:31.559 go to the movie theater by and large to see it. You're going to 212 00:15:31.960 --> 00:15:35.440 either not see it at all, or you wait till it appears on some 213 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:39.759 streaming service that took a serious hit. Yeah, yeah it did. If 214 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:46.120 it's not doing particularly well either in its third week. There's just really no 215 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:54.360 big box office blockbusters that are either coming very soon. I mean Bad Boys 216 00:15:54.399 --> 00:15:58.600 four, that's not a big blockbuster movie. It's not primed to do a 217 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:03.039 half a billion dollars. But you know what's interesting about Bad Boys for and 218 00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:07.799 also Furiosa, Each one of these movies that has come out has claimed that 219 00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:12.840 the summer begins now, because that was that was the tagline for Fiosa. 220 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:18.799 The summer begins now with Firiosa, which arguably for Memorial Day weekend it should 221 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:23.159 have. But now Bad Boys four is like the summer actually begins with Bad 222 00:16:23.200 --> 00:16:26.519 Boys for and it's coming out when nothing else is out, so it's gonna 223 00:16:26.519 --> 00:16:30.039 do really good first weekend. Well, we'll see. And this is why 224 00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:38.039 I would recaution here. Will Smith is fifty five, Martin Lawrence is maybe 225 00:16:38.039 --> 00:16:44.799 fifty six fifty seven. I don't know how much appeal they have to the 226 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:49.879 twenty five in under crowd, and you need them to really propel a movie. 227 00:16:51.399 --> 00:16:53.240 Am I gonna see it? Yes? Absolutely, But I saw the 228 00:16:53.240 --> 00:16:56.720 first three when they came out, and their contemporaries of us. You know, 229 00:16:56.720 --> 00:17:00.519 we're in the same age group, So yeah, I would actually see 230 00:17:00.519 --> 00:17:06.279 that. But I don't know if that goes the way of furiosa, where 231 00:17:06.599 --> 00:17:11.559 you're really speaking to a segment of the movie going population, not the wide 232 00:17:11.640 --> 00:17:15.200 variety of moviegoers. What say you, Mark, I say, make Will 233 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:18.759 Smith eat a hole lasagna and shove od off a table. And I'm in 234 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:26.000 nothing, really nothing nothing. Give me some crickets for that. Yeah, 235 00:17:26.039 --> 00:17:29.759 yeah, Robin, you gotta get ready with the crickets. At least we've 236 00:17:29.759 --> 00:17:32.119 definitely not gott to get a rim shot. Yeah, crickets are a rim 237 00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:36.160 shot. You gotta have your fingers on those two buttons constantly aren't we going 238 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:40.240 to Bad Boys on Friday? Yeah? Yeah, no, y'all are going. 239 00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:41.440 I'm not going. How are you getting out of this? I gotta 240 00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:45.440 go, And you're not going because I'll be in a different state getting ready 241 00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:48.480 to deliver a eulogy for a funeral. So you'll go to those lengths to 242 00:17:48.519 --> 00:17:53.680 get out of seeing that movie. That is a logical progression of thought. 243 00:17:53.839 --> 00:17:56.880 Yes, okay, Yeah, that's great. Thanks for the loyalty. Appreciate 244 00:17:56.880 --> 00:18:03.880 it. Sorry, you know he calls or death whichever. Well, if 245 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:06.160 that's what you got to do to get out of it. Yeah, look, 246 00:18:06.240 --> 00:18:07.839 I will get on a plane and fly to get away from you, 247 00:18:07.839 --> 00:18:11.960 spend the night with no hair. Maybe this is going to be a direct 248 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:15.720 flight to Maryland. Okay, all right, Well, appreciate it. So 249 00:18:15.839 --> 00:18:18.880 I guess it's just me and Tawala and Foush doggy dog. I think he's 250 00:18:18.960 --> 00:18:22.839 back. I'm coming down with something. Actually, I'm not feeling very well, 251 00:18:22.880 --> 00:18:25.519 right we are you afraid that he's going to get back at you? 252 00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:30.079 Yeah? Why would he do that? We don't. We don't do that 253 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:34.440 here, we don't. We don't do revenge. That's that's very vindictive. 254 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:40.319 Yeah, listen, I recorded him snoring out of love as a friend. 255 00:18:41.759 --> 00:18:45.359 That's how you're going to tell that story is an intervention because I because I 256 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:49.640 care about him. Oh, there was no malice involved in recording him while 257 00:18:49.640 --> 00:18:55.079 he was snoring louder than most people can yell in the middle of furiosa. 258 00:18:55.359 --> 00:19:00.079 It's still there was nothing funnier than when he started himself with his popcorn on 259 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:04.920 this stomach and the popcorn went everywhere. Yeah, everywhere. I wish I 260 00:19:04.960 --> 00:19:10.559 had filmed it. Now. Where I went wrong was only recording the audio 261 00:19:10.599 --> 00:19:12.799 and not just filming the whole thing. Well, you guys are gonna have 262 00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:18.160 to have some fun without me. But it's a dismal box office season as 263 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:22.519 of yet, and we're just, for the most part waiting for Deadpool Wolverine. 264 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:26.319 Yeah, got the tickets for that, you know, Mark. Actually, 265 00:19:26.359 --> 00:19:29.799 I'm looking at the tickets and I just remembered I need to get my 266 00:19:30.359 --> 00:19:33.200 break serviced on Friday. I thought I got tickets for bad Boy at two, 267 00:19:33.559 --> 00:19:37.359 but this says twelve, so that he'll still be asleep. Yeah, 268 00:19:37.400 --> 00:19:40.319 what are you trying to do to me? Yeah, no, no, 269 00:19:40.319 --> 00:19:42.119 no, I don't think we can go if I can find a later show, 270 00:19:42.119 --> 00:19:48.799 I will well, things are looking up. Nah, okay, then 271 00:19:48.880 --> 00:19:52.920 please keep me posted. Speaking of things looking up, Disney Plus is now 272 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:56.079 officially started passwords sharing crackdown. I know that's not looking up, that's actually 273 00:19:56.119 --> 00:19:59.400 looking down. We'll talk about that when we come back. If I AIM 274 00:19:59.480 --> 00:20:03.400 six forty live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app, you're listening too later with Moe 275 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:10.920 Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty. We have talked about streaming and 276 00:20:11.319 --> 00:20:14.599 the growth of the streaming market, the evolution of the streaming market. Some 277 00:20:14.680 --> 00:20:17.559 things I was right about, some things I was very wrong about. One 278 00:20:17.599 --> 00:20:19.799 of the things I was very wrong about, and I have no problem admitting 279 00:20:19.839 --> 00:20:25.160 it. About a year ago, Netflix had announced that they were going to 280 00:20:25.200 --> 00:20:27.759 be cracked down on password sharing, and I thought it was a bad idea. 281 00:20:27.799 --> 00:20:30.559 I thought that they would lose subscribers. I thought they were going to 282 00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:37.200 push their own subscriber base to other platforms. It didn't work out that way, 283 00:20:37.839 --> 00:20:42.880 and it's a copycat, copycat game. It worked out wonderfully for Netflix, 284 00:20:44.200 --> 00:20:48.039 and then the rest of the streaming platforms have been falling in line. 285 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:52.119 I didn't think it would go this direction, but it has. Disney Plus. 286 00:20:52.079 --> 00:20:56.200 It hasn't started here in America as of yet. That won't be until 287 00:20:56.200 --> 00:21:03.799 September, but get ready for it. They've started in other countries around the 288 00:21:03.799 --> 00:21:10.920 world. Disney Plus has started blocking passwords sharing between friends and family. The 289 00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:15.079 decision to force each household to have their own account was here. It is 290 00:21:15.799 --> 00:21:22.880 specifically inspired by Netflix, and the move will prevent customers from sharing their login 291 00:21:23.000 --> 00:21:30.400 details with people outside of their household. If it's anything structurally like Netflix, 292 00:21:30.839 --> 00:21:37.599 it probably will require you if you're not on the home Wi Fi where the 293 00:21:37.559 --> 00:21:42.759 account is registered, you'll probably have to log in your account on that home 294 00:21:42.799 --> 00:21:48.319 Wi Fi every so often, maybe every thirty or sixty days, to prove 295 00:21:48.359 --> 00:21:53.079 that you're a part of the household, and then you'll be able to use 296 00:21:53.119 --> 00:21:57.200 it elsewhere. But like, for example, I share it. I have 297 00:21:57.200 --> 00:22:02.559 no problem saying this. I share my Disney Plus account with my mother. 298 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:06.960 I pay for it. She comes over to my house every now and then, 299 00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:08.680 but for the most part she's at her house. I may have to 300 00:22:08.720 --> 00:22:11.960 get her an account because I'm not gonna make her come over to my house 301 00:22:12.359 --> 00:22:18.000 just so she could log in her laptop or something to have the Disney Plus 302 00:22:18.039 --> 00:22:22.119 coverage. And it's going to force people to make this decision. I still 303 00:22:22.200 --> 00:22:26.240 think in the long run, I don't know if they're endearing customers to folks, 304 00:22:26.680 --> 00:22:32.319 but it is coming. The band will start in a few countries first, 305 00:22:32.359 --> 00:22:38.480 according to Bob Iger, including the UK and the US will deal with 306 00:22:38.519 --> 00:22:42.799 this in September. It will prevent customers from sharing the log in details with 307 00:22:42.880 --> 00:22:49.319 people outside of their household. Subscribers will be charged an additional fee to watch 308 00:22:49.400 --> 00:22:56.680 Disney Plus on multiple devices outside their home, just like Netflix. As I 309 00:22:56.720 --> 00:23:03.400 said, it's because of Netflix Netflix's success, Disney is doing this. Disney 310 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:08.319 Plus will track its users' IP addresses, as well as device IDs and account 311 00:23:08.359 --> 00:23:15.920 activity to determine whether viewers are in the same household or not. In Disney 312 00:23:15.960 --> 00:23:22.240 Plus's UK help center, its states quote you may not share your subscription outside 313 00:23:22.279 --> 00:23:26.200 of your household, and the definition of a household is the primary personal residence 314 00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:33.119 of the account that pays the bills and the devices under that roof. Like 315 00:23:33.160 --> 00:23:37.559 I said the home Wi Fi, only people who live in the primary personal 316 00:23:37.640 --> 00:23:42.160 residence will be able to watch from the Disney Plus linked to that address. 317 00:23:42.400 --> 00:23:47.680 Subscribers will be able to watch it outside of their home, but only for 318 00:23:47.880 --> 00:23:52.000 a limited amount of time. In Disney's new subscriber agreements to states, quote, 319 00:23:53.319 --> 00:23:59.519 unless otherwise permitted by your service plan, you may not share your subscription 320 00:23:59.599 --> 00:24:03.799 outside of your household. Mark, do you have Disney Plus? I have 321 00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:07.799 a friend's Disney Plus. And I don't like this totalitarian routine here. No, 322 00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:14.240 I don't like it all After Netflix is a crackdown a Netflix. Their 323 00:24:14.279 --> 00:24:18.559 profits went up in the first quarter to climb to more than one point to 324 00:24:18.799 --> 00:24:23.559 No. Two point three billion and increase total subscribers to two hundred and seventy 325 00:24:23.599 --> 00:24:27.440 million. It worked, and it worked like gangbusters. Well, I'm sure 326 00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:30.799 they were struggling. They needed the money. Well, you know, here 327 00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:34.480 we go. Mark is capitalism. They're in the business of making money, 328 00:24:36.079 --> 00:24:38.359 not altruism. No, no, nobody could ever mistake this for that, 329 00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:41.720 right, right, right, So people gonna have to make some decisions. 330 00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:48.039 I don't know right now. I have a year subscription and I probably won't 331 00:24:48.079 --> 00:24:51.480 renew it. But if I do, it will be with the new bundle. 332 00:24:52.119 --> 00:24:55.200 And I don't know how I'm going to handle my mother and other folks. 333 00:24:55.480 --> 00:24:57.200 You know, just gonna see you're on your own, mom. Sorry, 334 00:24:59.440 --> 00:25:03.319 Well it depends. I don't think she uses it as much as I 335 00:25:03.359 --> 00:25:06.839 know. She doesn't use it as much as I do. It's just a 336 00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:10.920 point of I want it available whenever she wants to use it. Mom's not 337 00:25:10.920 --> 00:25:15.119 a big Mandalorian fan, No, but she would watch the Disney movies like 338 00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:19.000 Soul or the Pixar movies things like that. She definitely watch those. Okay, 339 00:25:19.440 --> 00:25:22.839 so she would. She has utility for it, but she's not using 340 00:25:22.920 --> 00:25:26.839 it for all the series like you and I are. Twala Wood. Well, 341 00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:29.960 then you won't feel bad about cutting her off. No, I would 342 00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:33.119 feel bad because I'd like to have it wherever she wants something or needs something. 343 00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:37.079 She need not ask, It's already there. I pay for most of 344 00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:41.240 her streaming stuff. It's just easier, Yeah, because it's just easier for 345 00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:45.200 me to set up on her device, download the apps, that kind of 346 00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:51.079 thing, and just go. It's just easier. I think it's time to 347 00:25:51.079 --> 00:25:53.960 get a little bit more ruthless with moms since things are going up in cost. 348 00:25:55.440 --> 00:25:57.599 No, I'll tell you this, and she probably won't like me telling 349 00:25:57.640 --> 00:26:03.839 you this, or telling the world. My mother came from a different time. 350 00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:10.359 In fact, my father was very different. He was he was going 351 00:26:10.440 --> 00:26:11.839 to handle all the bills. He's going to do everything. In fact, 352 00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:15.799 he gas up all the cars. My mother does not put gas in her 353 00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:21.079 car. I put gas in her car. She lets me know when she's 354 00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:23.160 low on gas, and I drive over and I take her car and I 355 00:26:23.240 --> 00:26:26.680 fill it up. Does she live far from you? About ten miles from 356 00:26:26.680 --> 00:26:30.960 me? Could you put gas in my car? Yeah? If you were 357 00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:33.039 my mother, But you're not. Well, you're not my daddy in any 358 00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:37.000 literal sense of either. Hear of those. No, No, I cannot 359 00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:41.359 ask twallet. He's closer to you, all right, whichever works, that's 360 00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:44.559 fine. No, No, I mean he is literally closer to you right 361 00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:47.000 now, and closer to you as far as where you live. Also, 362 00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:49.400 i'd like a Disney subscription when I get cut off on my friend's thing. 363 00:26:49.599 --> 00:26:52.839 That's fine, that's fine. I can't help you with that either, But 364 00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:56.480 yeah, you're welcome to ass up. Well, anything else that you would 365 00:26:56.519 --> 00:26:59.279 like that you won't get. It. Hasn't been the most productive conversation we've 366 00:26:59.319 --> 00:27:00.319 ever had, has been. No. We saw us so well, we 367 00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:03.359 were agreeing on everything, and now we have nothing in common. Yeah, 368 00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:08.720 thanks for nothing. Okay, moving on, yes, okay, at least 369 00:27:08.759 --> 00:27:11.039 you didn't get a rim shot. That's all the matter. Someone's catching on. 370 00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:14.960 It's Later with mo Kelly. When we come back, we'll check in 371 00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:18.759 with George North Coast to Coast am in just a moment. And also, 372 00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:22.200 do not forget. Before the week is out, we will be giving away 373 00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:27.680 tickets to Disney's The Little Mermaid at La Marada Theater. Do not think that 374 00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:32.799 we've forgotten about that. And tomorrow we'll give away another pair of tickets to 375 00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:37.279 super Freak, the Rick James Story. So much good stuff coming your way. 376 00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:41.200 Just keep on listening. You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand 377 00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:47.599 from KFI AM six boarding. Before we get out of here, Mark, 378 00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:52.200 Yes, I'm waiting on your apology. Okay, you hurt my feelings for 379 00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:55.000 what exactly, just what you just You never apologize, So I just want 380 00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:57.000 a blanket apology, Just a blanket apology. It's coming. It's on the 381 00:27:57.039 --> 00:28:00.359 way. Just stand by for that, all right, open one, I'll 382 00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:07.640 keep you fuck all right. Let's talk about Ticketmaster before we get out of 383 00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:15.000 here. Ticketmaster's parent company says it's investigating a possible data breach after a group 384 00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:22.799 of hackers claimed to have stolen the personal information of five hundred and sixty million 385 00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:30.400 Ticketmaster customers. Five hundred and sixty million. It doesn't say how far back 386 00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:37.119 this data may go, but I assume if you've purchased tickets in the past 387 00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:45.039 twenty years, your information probably probably not definitely, but probably was contained in 388 00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:48.279 the five hundred and sixty million. And what do I always say, I 389 00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:52.960 say it just about every month at some point. The whole idea of privacy 390 00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:56.720 is an illusion. If you think that you haven't had your data exposed at 391 00:28:56.720 --> 00:29:03.839 some point, you're probably deluding yourself, be it medical information, private information. 392 00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:08.319 It's out there and it may not be something that you personally chose to 393 00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:14.640 do. It may not be any fault of your own. But because we 394 00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:18.559 live in this digital age, and for the most part, we're forced to 395 00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:22.880 give out our information here and there, it's going to get out there eventually. 396 00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:30.319 In a securities filing, Ticketmaster owner Live Nation said it identified unauthorized activity 397 00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:37.680 within a third party cloud database environment containing company data. Back on May twentieth, 398 00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:42.359 the hacking group Shiny Hunters claimed it had obtained one point three terabytes of 399 00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:48.079 Ticketmaster user data, including names, addresses, phone numbers, as well as 400 00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:52.880 order details and credit card information. The hackers were selling the debt the data 401 00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:59.599 on the dark web for five hundred thousand dollars. Ticketmaster's parent company says it 402 00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:03.640 is in investigating a possible data breach and they're trying to see where it will 403 00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:11.200 lead. A week later, the hacking group shining Hunters as a fright excuse 404 00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:15.359 me Live Nation said there was no evidence that the data breach had a material 405 00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:18.680 impact on its business operations. What about a material impact on our lives? 406 00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:22.880 They just take their word for it. Another reason to love them, right, 407 00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:25.240 Well, but I think of it this way. It's nice to know 408 00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:27.079 that it didn't bother you ticket Mastered anyway. No, no, no, 409 00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:30.839 didn't have a material impact on our operations. Well that's fine, But I 410 00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:37.880 don't care whether it impacted you. I care whether it impacted me. Can 411 00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:41.079 you tell me of my data is out there? The only thing they're saying 412 00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:44.039 is no, you know, we're just moving ahead, business as usual. 413 00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:48.279 The company added that it is working to mitigate risk to its users and has 414 00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:52.839 notified law enforcement. Oh great, so they called the police. What does 415 00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:56.720 that do for me? Well, listen, the important thing is that Ticketmaster 416 00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:03.519 is okay, And and you would think Ticketmaster would be a little bit more 417 00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:08.599 delicate with giving customers more bad news given all the bad press that it's been 418 00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:14.480 receiving for the past year or so, or at least break it a little 419 00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:19.079 nicer like the old cats on the roof story, you know. According to 420 00:31:19.359 --> 00:31:25.839 the DOJ, Shiny Hunters as marketed stolen data from over sixty companies in the 421 00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:30.680 US and globally since early twenty twenty. They are busy. Quote. The 422 00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:34.880 victims range from tech companies to an international stock trading company, to an apparel 423 00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:41.279 company and a nutrition and fitness company. Millions of customer records were included in 424 00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:47.839 the stolen data. Yeah, and this cyber attack comes as Ticketmaster faces legal 425 00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:51.440 battles. We handed at that back on May twenty third, the DOJ and 426 00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:57.039 thirty state and district attorneys general filed a federal lawsuit against Live Nation allegend it 427 00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:02.000 was a monopoly. We talked about that, and if the suit doesn't reshape 428 00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:08.400 Ticketmaster, then probably this data breach. Well, there's nothing positive for Live 429 00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:12.960 Nation or Ticketmaster this point. This company is not going to survive as it's 430 00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:16.200 presently constructed if there was a list of the most hated companies in the United 431 00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:20.359 States, where do you think Ticketmaster would fall on that. I don't know 432 00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:27.559 if everyone understands that Ticketmaster is the devil. Yeah, yeah, I think 433 00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:32.880 they have gone under the radar, if only because not everyone buys concert tickets, 434 00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:37.319 but if you have bought a concert ticket in the last what, I 435 00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:40.559 don't know, thirty years, Yeah, they're on your radar. They may 436 00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:44.880 be on their radar, but I think they've been on people's radar more for 437 00:32:44.920 --> 00:32:50.160 the past two to three years because of their dynamic pricing, because people have 438 00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:54.440 been more vocal about their complaints. But that's just more recently. I don't 439 00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:58.720 know if that's always been the case, but yeah, they are moving up 440 00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:02.599 the lists quickly. Ticketmaster completely separate from Live Nation. I'm not really clear 441 00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:06.960 on how Live Nation is the parent company for Ticketmasters. Okay, thank you? 442 00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:08.720 So I hate them both, Well, yeah, they're basically one in 443 00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:12.599 the same. Got you know. I don't know if it's Ticketmaster live Nation 444 00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:16.960 a Live Nation Ticketmaster, but they're inseparable, a pox on their one house. 445 00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:22.680 Yeah, they are basically Siamese twins. Can I say that anymore? 446 00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:28.400 Yeah? Conjoined twins is so boring. Okay, Siamese is much more interesting. 447 00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:31.160 It's more yucks with Siamese. All right. I just want to make 448 00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:36.480 sure because my goal is to be politically correct at all times. A plus, 449 00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:38.640 did I fall short? No? No, you're doing great. Okay, 450 00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:44.799 it's it's been good to be with you on your final show. I 451 00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:49.200 can joined whatever they might have been from Siam. Yeah, yeah, I 452 00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:55.079 mean I like those Siamese cats. What's what's wrong with the twins? What's 453 00:33:55.119 --> 00:34:02.640 what's funny? What's funny that evolved? No? Seriously, when you think 454 00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:07.039 of evil companies, does Ticketmaster even rise to that level? You know, 455 00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:12.440 I haven't bought a concert ticket in the longest way. Like the last time 456 00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:15.880 I bought concert tickets, I bought them directly from the Hollywood Bowl from their 457 00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:22.079 website, so it didn't go through Ticketmaster and I, and they were very 458 00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:25.159 upfront with the costs, like like even after the final tally, it wasn't 459 00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:29.519 like the tickets were fifty dollars face value, and all of a sudden I 460 00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:32.639 get hit with one hundred and fifty dollars bill. No Hollywood Bowl face value 461 00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:40.159 tickets. Perfect. I would not though I would not be against putting a 462 00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:47.039 pox on the house of Live Nation Ticketmaster, because I know how much they 463 00:34:47.079 --> 00:35:00.639 have reamed. Can you say that Fox Fox? Yeah? Oh, my 464 00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:05.800 co pair would buy tickets to like tell Us with or Beyonce or whatever, 465 00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:08.440 take in our daughter to these shows and she's always like, oh my god, 466 00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:14.360 these fees on the back end when they get you. I usually try 467 00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:19.840 to buy directly from the house, not go through a Ticketmaster or a ticket 468 00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:22.960 broker. I'm saying calling someone over there. I'm not trying to get tickets 469 00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:25.920 online. Just can't do it, can't do it. Tell me, though, 470 00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:30.360 do you not think of Ticketmaster and I guess Live Nation in the same 471 00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:35.400 way that you think of an insurance company, in that they're just parasites who 472 00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:39.679 contribute nothing. Yeah, but it's more abstract for me, if only because 473 00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:45.039 working in the music industry, there was a good fifteen years where I paid 474 00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:51.239 for not one concert ticket, not one, so there was no animosity to 475 00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:57.119 be had. My connection to Ticketmaster is only through news articles. Now. 476 00:35:57.639 --> 00:36:01.679 I don't have any personal animus because I haven't been subjected to that. Every 477 00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:09.079 concept that I've been to since I don't know when has been because of passes 478 00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:15.760 or press showings or or whatever. So as long as they've been fleecing everybody 479 00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:17.639 else but you, No, no, no, I've talked about it that 480 00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:20.800 no no, no, I said, I talked about it. I have 481 00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:23.159 no problem talking about the stories. I just don't have a first person point 482 00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:28.920 of reference of paying these large fees because I never would ever. It's just 483 00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:30.719 what those things were. I just won't go. I'm not going to pay 484 00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:36.199 four times the face value of the ticket or whatever it is because of all 485 00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:40.039 these fees which are added on to go see a performer. I've seen everyone 486 00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:44.440 I want to see, and anyone that I do want to see, I 487 00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:49.119 will call in a favor, a chit or something. Well, I think 488 00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:51.800 I need to exploit our friendship more than I have been. But is there 489 00:36:51.840 --> 00:36:54.119 a way to get around those fees, like if you if you actually physically 490 00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:59.000 go to the box office of the place, or is it just unavoidable? 491 00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:01.119 Is it fate they still charge you a service fee. There's a service fee, 492 00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:04.960 but you don't pay all the ticketmaster fees. If I'm not mistaken, 493 00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:07.079 if you go to the box office. A part of that is that convenience 494 00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:13.159 fear of whatever it is of purchasing them online. Yeah, the hell with 495 00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:15.400 them, just download stuff. I mean, can't doubt that's the life. 496 00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:19.760 Yeah, how are you gonna do that? Never mind, look at the 497 00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:25.599 time. We will see you tomorrow. We'll be joined on the show by 498 00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:30.239 Stokely, who is the star of Super Freak, The Rick James Story. 499 00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:32.400 We will be giving away a pair of tickets, and maybe we'll give away 500 00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:37.360 some Disney The Little Mermaid tickets as well for Lamarade Theater. All I know 501 00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:40.400 is we're gonna be giving away something tomorrow because that's how we do it. 502 00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:44.519 Here on later with Mo Kelly can if. I am six forty. We're 503 00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:49.039 live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Will help you figure it out. It's 504 00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:53.920 kind of what we do. Ks. I'm kost HD two Los Angeles, 505 00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:57.960 Orange County, Live everywhere on the radio.