WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.880 --> 00:00:04.599 This show is produced and hosted by Mark Webber. The show is sponsored by 2 00:00:04.679 --> 00:00:08.119 G three Aparo. The views expressed in the following program are those of the 3 00:00:08.160 --> 00:00:15.759 sponsor and not necessarily the opinion of seven Tenor or iHeartMedia. Who is Mark 4 00:00:15.800 --> 00:00:20.559 Webber. He's a self made business executive here to help you find your success 5 00:00:20.719 --> 00:00:25.399 from the New York City projects to the Avenue Montaigne in Paris. His global 6 00:00:25.440 --> 00:00:30.760 success story in the luxury world of fashion is inspirational. He's gone from clerk 7 00:00:31.120 --> 00:00:37.079 to CEO twice. Mark is classic proof that the American dream is alive. 8 00:00:37.200 --> 00:00:41.719 And well, here's your host of Always in Fashion, Mark Weber. Mark 9 00:00:41.719 --> 00:00:46.920 Weber, there's lots to be thankful for. I don't intend to give you 10 00:00:46.960 --> 00:00:49.679 my list, and you and I can do our own lists at the right 11 00:00:49.719 --> 00:00:54.520 time. The key is to recognize life isn't easy, but it's beautiful if 12 00:00:54.560 --> 00:00:58.039 you take a moment to think about it. There's a lot of bad stuff 13 00:00:58.039 --> 00:01:02.320 out there bringing darkness. I have to work towards finding the light. The 14 00:01:02.399 --> 00:01:06.959 good news we're not alone. The bad news, we're not alone. We 15 00:01:07.040 --> 00:01:11.159 may elect our leaders, but we're not making the decisions. And that's a 16 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:15.959 problem. They are and I have to have my fingers crossed that it's going 17 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:19.760 to get better. It's the time of year to be thankful. I remind 18 00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:23.400 you of a quote I like on this subject. The hardest arithmetic to master 19 00:01:25.079 --> 00:01:29.280 is that which enables us to count our blessings. Think about that one. 20 00:01:29.799 --> 00:01:34.280 As I worked through this year this week, avoiding humans, hoping for the 21 00:01:34.319 --> 00:01:38.920 best, avoiding phone calls, ignoring tests, canceling appointments, doing what I 22 00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:42.319 want to do when I want to do it. Being a recluse, I 23 00:01:42.359 --> 00:01:47.799 do spend time appreciating. I gave a great deal of thought about what the 24 00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:52.560 show would be about tonight, what to talk about. It's been an interesting 25 00:01:52.599 --> 00:01:57.359 week for Always in Fashion, signing new sponsors for next year, got some 26 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:04.400 great comments on recent shows, some insults to balance out to euphoria. The 27 00:02:04.519 --> 00:02:08.520 show, I remind you, is original content. Apple Spotify categorize us as 28 00:02:08.520 --> 00:02:14.879 a cultural and lifestyle show. I've learned to embrace this latitude. Even though 29 00:02:14.919 --> 00:02:19.319 I viewed it as a business show. I take culture and lifestyle as a 30 00:02:19.360 --> 00:02:23.159 broader opportunity for the audience. The expansion, I believe has made the show 31 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:29.400 more interesting, more relevant. In spite of this week's insults. Now, 32 00:02:29.439 --> 00:02:34.360 I don't like being told what to do by anyone. You don't know what 33 00:02:34.439 --> 00:02:37.759 it takes to put this show together, and I just thought of this. 34 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:43.240 I have a very close friend. Every year he organized two golf events at 35 00:02:43.240 --> 00:02:47.759 Seabrook Island in South Carolina. It's a hot ticket invitation, only twenty four 36 00:02:47.800 --> 00:02:52.560 guys each hoping they're going to get the infight. Each season, Spring and 37 00:02:52.639 --> 00:02:58.479 four a tournament for tournamental players. Every guy who makes the cut loves the 38 00:02:58.520 --> 00:03:01.719 competition. You can never convinced them. This wasn't the PGA Tour that we 39 00:03:01.719 --> 00:03:06.879 weren't twenty four years old, competing for the trophy, competing for the prize 40 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:09.719 money. I, like everyone else, was thrilled to be there and get 41 00:03:09.719 --> 00:03:14.800 the invite. My friend planned the entirety of the event, the dates, 42 00:03:14.879 --> 00:03:17.560 the hotels, guests, houses, the rates, the golf tee times, 43 00:03:17.560 --> 00:03:23.719 the teas, the teams, the timetables, all the meals. Huge undertaining. 44 00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:27.479 But guys would be guys. Some had thoughts on how to improve this 45 00:03:27.560 --> 00:03:30.879 tournament. Some even had complaints, and my friend, the commissioner, they 46 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:36.479 would seek out. Now when the complaints were lodged with this commission of my 47 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:39.479 friend who made all of this happen. He always had the same response, 48 00:03:40.439 --> 00:03:45.479 when you get your own tournament, you can do what you want. To 49 00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:51.199 those complaining about the show I had criticism last week, I won't say those 50 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:55.560 Maybe I'll say him to you. When you get your own show, you 51 00:03:55.560 --> 00:04:00.639 can do what you want. Back to the point I want to make, 52 00:04:01.400 --> 00:04:05.639 we're original content. I don't do sports, I don't do traffic and weather, 53 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:13.000 little politics. Only if I have a different approach to what's going on, 54 00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:17.319 If it's been said before, if it's obvious what's being said, you 55 00:04:17.399 --> 00:04:21.120 don't need me to repeat it, and I won't. Each week. Something 56 00:04:21.279 --> 00:04:26.480 must capture my attention and drive me, compel me to talk about it. 57 00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:31.040 That's what original content is. And this week, of all things, of 58 00:04:31.160 --> 00:04:36.519 all people, it was Jim Carrey, actor and comedian, who caught my 59 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:42.959 attention. He announced his retirement from acting. Now, why did it catch 60 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:46.879 my attention? If your fans have always in fashion, I've never mentioned this 61 00:04:46.959 --> 00:04:51.279 on air, but I'm extremely proud of our episode titles. Each week, 62 00:04:51.399 --> 00:04:56.079 Jesse or I give a great deal of thought to make sure those titles are 63 00:04:56.160 --> 00:05:02.319 clever, short, succinct, and interesting. There to capture your attention. 64 00:05:02.959 --> 00:05:06.319 Here. I am this week observing and reading as much as I can find. 65 00:05:06.680 --> 00:05:14.040 And Jim Carrey made a statement, short, succinct, interesting, and 66 00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:17.120 caught my attention, and he spelled it out. I wish I did, 67 00:05:17.160 --> 00:05:24.800 because he completely accurately articulated exactly how I feel where I am in my life 68 00:05:24.800 --> 00:05:28.920 and my career, how I feel about the contributions I've met. It was 69 00:05:29.000 --> 00:05:31.639 perfect. He was talking about me, but he was talking about himself, 70 00:05:31.959 --> 00:05:38.160 and he said, I have enough, I've done enough, and I am 71 00:05:38.279 --> 00:05:44.160 enough, and I'm retiring once again, where do I find inspiration? One 72 00:05:44.240 --> 00:05:47.519 of my longest running friends called me this week. His name is Stuart Rosenthal, 73 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:54.199 and unlike the detractors, he said, talking and referencing last week's show, 74 00:05:54.240 --> 00:05:57.519 I'm a mountain climber. He said it was brilliant. I don't know 75 00:05:57.519 --> 00:06:00.439 how you do it. Mark, it's just inherent talent. You have something 76 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:08.360 most people don't have, multi talented business skills, your writer, producer and 77 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:12.600 talk show host. It's genius. Well, thank you, Stuart. And 78 00:06:12.680 --> 00:06:15.759 yes, as Steve Martin said in one of my favorite movies, my favorite 79 00:06:15.759 --> 00:06:18.959 comedic movie maybe of all time, when he said he was talking about himself, 80 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:23.639 and he said, sometimes I maze myself. Yep, sometimes I do. 81 00:06:24.120 --> 00:06:27.759 And I'm so grateful and thank you, and this week to Jim Carrey, 82 00:06:28.040 --> 00:06:31.120 thanks for your help and making always in Fashion interesting tonight because our show 83 00:06:31.240 --> 00:06:36.279 is I've had enough, I done enough, I am enough. Where am 84 00:06:36.319 --> 00:06:41.360 I? What am I? Who am I? I have enough? I 85 00:06:41.399 --> 00:06:44.439 have my home, I have my clothes, my toys, I've saved enough. 86 00:06:44.879 --> 00:06:47.680 I've done enough. I've accomplished many things. Can't say I accomplish what 87 00:06:47.720 --> 00:06:50.720 I set out to do because I didn't set out to do anything, didn't 88 00:06:50.759 --> 00:06:55.240 have a plan, certainly, never set my goals this high. And I 89 00:06:55.279 --> 00:06:59.920 am enough. That's about me and how I feel. I was never supposed 90 00:06:59.959 --> 00:07:02.839 to to have this career, no guidance, no internships, no head starts, 91 00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:06.439 and yet I'm proud of what I am. Therefore, I'm ready to 92 00:07:06.519 --> 00:07:13.480 talk from a different perspective on gratitude tonight. And joining me at this time 93 00:07:13.480 --> 00:07:16.879 of thanks and introspection my lawyer, my co host, and most importantly, 94 00:07:16.920 --> 00:07:19.959 my son, Jesse Webber. Hey, there, everybody, good to be 95 00:07:20.079 --> 00:07:25.040 back. It's funny you get all these bad criticisms. I seem to only 96 00:07:25.040 --> 00:07:28.759 get praise I'm always happy about that. I don't get any bad reviews. 97 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:30.879 I don't know what you're doing, but it's interesting. I think it's funny 98 00:07:30.879 --> 00:07:33.920 when you talk about Jim Carrey. By the way, great quote by him. 99 00:07:33.959 --> 00:07:36.759 I watched it. I heard him say it, job well done. 100 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:42.199 The problem is you're using his quote. Isn't he going to be upset? 101 00:07:42.439 --> 00:07:45.079 Isn't this going to be like you took my idea? Mark? No, 102 00:07:45.240 --> 00:07:46.879 because I gave him credit. I'm not plagiarizing it. I didn't make it 103 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:49.519 as if it was my idea. I gave him credit right out, and 104 00:07:49.560 --> 00:07:53.839 he should be flattered like I would be if he used any of my quotes 105 00:07:53.879 --> 00:07:57.439 around any of the people that do that. You are definitely expanding on the 106 00:07:57.519 --> 00:08:00.759 concept, and so I like that you're doing that. Okay, got it. 107 00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:03.439 Thanks. What do you think about his approach to a job or a 108 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:07.040 life well done? It makes sense Jim Carrey if you look at his whole 109 00:08:07.040 --> 00:08:13.120 career, the guy is a comedic genius. He did things that nobody ever 110 00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:16.800 did. I mean, the movies that he made were instant classics. He 111 00:08:16.879 --> 00:08:20.040 was one of the stars of the nineties and the two thousands, and he 112 00:08:20.120 --> 00:08:24.399 branched out into doing dramatic roles too, and killed it absolutely there. So 113 00:08:24.439 --> 00:08:28.000 when you look back on it, of course he should say that I've done 114 00:08:28.120 --> 00:08:31.039 enough. I am enough. You know. It makes complete sense from a 115 00:08:31.080 --> 00:08:35.000 guy like Jim Carrey. I don't love the idea of him retiring. I 116 00:08:35.039 --> 00:08:39.480 think he's got more to offer. It's funny he does the Sonic movies now 117 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:43.600 and he's still hilarious. But in light of his comments, I completely understand. 118 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:46.000 I wish him the best, you know, I still think he has 119 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:48.200 a lot to contribute, but I wish him the best. Well, he 120 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:52.919 did say if somebody handed him a golden script that came down from God, 121 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:56.120 he would consider it, and so he left a door open. And I 122 00:08:56.159 --> 00:08:58.879 get it, and that's smart too. But I am curious though to hear 123 00:08:58.879 --> 00:09:03.960 you apply this concept, and I'm eager to hear you apply it. The 124 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:07.919 only thing I'm gonna say is the caveat whatever you do, I don't want 125 00:09:07.960 --> 00:09:11.000 to hear this. I'm not important anymore. I'm not I used to be. 126 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:13.960 Importantly. I don't like when you do it, and I don't think 127 00:09:13.960 --> 00:09:16.759 some of our listeners like if it like that you do it. So by 128 00:09:16.759 --> 00:09:20.240 the way you talk about criticisms you're receiving. That's one of them. They 129 00:09:20.240 --> 00:09:24.080 don't like when you say it. Well, that's not carry it away. 130 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:28.960 On the criticisms I'm receiving. They're few and far between. It's my style. 131 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:31.320 I hate them, and yet I have to comment on them now and 132 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:35.600 then. Now. As far as me not being important any longer, it's 133 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:37.960 true, I don't feel that I am. And I also think it's a 134 00:09:39.080 --> 00:09:43.399 natural cause of events. When you're at the top of the mountain, when 135 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:46.960 you are the big player, when you're the big cheese, when everybody's waiting 136 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:50.000 to hear what you have to say and you have thousands of people relying on 137 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:54.960 you, you're very important. I'm no longer that person. I recognize that 138 00:09:56.039 --> 00:10:01.519 anybody who listens on the radio and takes time to hear of might learn from 139 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:05.120 it and benefit from it. And we hear this all the time, all 140 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:07.200 the time. People are writing me the minute they listen to my podcast, 141 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:11.240 read my book. I'm giving it to my children. They got a lot 142 00:10:11.279 --> 00:10:13.360 to learn, and that's a great thing. But I realize I'm not what 143 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:18.039 I once was on that important meta. But at the same time, I 144 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:20.639 don't expect to be, says you. I think you still have a lot 145 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:24.559 to contribute and you still are important. Okay, well, thank you. 146 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:28.480 I don't necessarily agree. I think it's your time, and I guess to 147 00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:33.360 say to you this way. Aren't I allowed to retire? No? What 148 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:37.799 do you mean? No, I haven't worked hard enough. You've definitely worked 149 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:41.320 hard, but you're not there yet. There's still so much left for you 150 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:43.600 to do. You have too much to say, too many lessons to give 151 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:46.720 to people who need to hear it. You got funny stories to tell. 152 00:10:48.399 --> 00:10:50.360 I get to work with you, so that's always a joy. And by 153 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:54.279 the way, who are you kidding? You still have the drive to work, 154 00:10:54.360 --> 00:10:58.039 the drive to do things. You have this boundless energy. You're never 155 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:03.480 sleepy, so give me a break. So when I'm on my porch looking 156 00:11:03.519 --> 00:11:05.080 out the water or at the trees, I'm not allowed to do this. 157 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:07.559 I gotta keep working. First of all, you don't have a porch, 158 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:11.919 So there's number one time out. What do you call in the back of 159 00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:13.799 my house? If not a porch, it's not really a porch. It's 160 00:11:13.799 --> 00:11:18.159 like a deck. Okay, you the same principle, it's a terrace. 161 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:20.679 You got a terrace. Thank you. I'm not allowed to sit on my 162 00:11:20.759 --> 00:11:24.399 terrace in my rocking chair and just relax. You don't have a rocking chair, 163 00:11:24.440 --> 00:11:26.759 so let's calm down. You know what it is. There's a great 164 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:31.000 scene from a movie called Something's Got to Give with Jack Nicholson and he sells 165 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:35.240 all his businesses. He goes to a tropical island and he's gonna, you 166 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:37.480 know, retire right, basically live out his life on the beach. And 167 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:41.759 he's talking to Diane Keaton. She goes, that's where you've been for the 168 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:45.480 last six months. He goes, no, I was there for six hours. 169 00:11:45.759 --> 00:11:48.399 And he could only be there for six hours before he realized he had 170 00:11:48.399 --> 00:11:52.000 to come back and do other things. You're the exact same way. You 171 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:54.639 would not be able to stay on that porch for two minutes. I'm very 172 00:11:54.879 --> 00:12:00.679 very good at being alone. I'm very very good at keeping myself. I'm 173 00:12:00.919 --> 00:12:03.519 very good, if not expert, at being reclusive. I like to read, 174 00:12:03.840 --> 00:12:07.799 I like to watch movies. I like to I like to I like 175 00:12:07.879 --> 00:12:11.039 to. What I don't like to is being told right now that I can 176 00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:13.120 never retire. I just don't think you like being told what not to do. 177 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:16.240 You want to come with it on your own choice. But look, 178 00:12:16.279 --> 00:12:18.720 I don't think you're stopping. You're not stopping. Too important to stop. 179 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:22.720 Well, if that's what you say, I'll say the following your two caveats. 180 00:12:22.879 --> 00:12:28.120 I will try very hard between now and the end of this show not 181 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:31.360 to once refer to myself again as not being important. And I should point 182 00:12:31.360 --> 00:12:35.480 out to everyone that, on the subject of continuing, we just got a 183 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:39.360 bunch of new sponsors. Next year. We're fully subscribed. That's amazing. 184 00:12:39.399 --> 00:12:45.200 See congratulations, Yeah, I guess so, okay, okay, so where 185 00:12:45.240 --> 00:12:48.480 are we here? I have to say that tonight's show is I have enough? 186 00:12:48.799 --> 00:12:52.600 I'd done enough and I am enough. I started to think about I 187 00:12:52.679 --> 00:13:01.519 have enough. I live such a full career life. It's been amazing money. 188 00:13:01.919 --> 00:13:05.039 I have enough, But that's not how I want to judge where I 189 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:09.399 am. When I say I have enough, toys only take you so far. 190 00:13:09.879 --> 00:13:15.639 I work for a public company that stock was languishing in single digits. 191 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:20.840 We were the fourth horse in a three horse race. I worked for the 192 00:13:20.879 --> 00:13:24.879 fourth largest shirt company in the United States, but we owned a two percent 193 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:28.399 share of market. The number one shirt company, Arrow owned twenty six percent, 194 00:13:28.639 --> 00:13:33.399 Manhattan owned fifteen percent. In the private label industry owned seventy percent, 195 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:37.840 and we were left for two percent. And yet I saw people that were 196 00:13:39.759 --> 00:13:45.679 believing in the brand van Usen, believing in the leadership of the company, 197 00:13:45.720 --> 00:13:50.559 that wanted us to grow, wanted us to make a contribution. I was 198 00:13:50.639 --> 00:13:56.000 there. I started as a kid knowing nothing and became the president and CEO 199 00:13:56.080 --> 00:14:01.039 of the shirt company. We became the number one shirt company. This is 200 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:07.039 amazing. The people everyone wanted to live. The senior management either built a 201 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:11.159 plan or stumbled on it or envisioned it, but whatever the combination of it 202 00:14:11.279 --> 00:14:16.039 was, it worked. We ended up buying the Arrowshirt Company. Manhattan disappeared 203 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:20.120 private label styled firm, but we became the number one show company in the 204 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:24.159 world. And it was such a great feeling of accomplishment to live through this 205 00:14:24.279 --> 00:14:28.559 and watch us and our stock not only doubled and tripled, it split and 206 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:33.759 doubled and tripled. And it was an amazing run in amazing time. In 207 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:37.360 the first twenty five years of my life and career. It was unbelievable. 208 00:14:37.879 --> 00:14:43.919 Until such time that the current management of the company, the new CEO, 209 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:50.360 the outgoing CEO struggled with the core businesses the company owns Calvin Cleine and Tommy 210 00:14:50.399 --> 00:14:52.679 Hill figure with the core businesses they struggled with. They didn't have a vision, 211 00:14:54.279 --> 00:14:58.159 they didn't know how to execute. And while I never said PVH would 212 00:14:58.200 --> 00:15:01.240 have been better if I was there, Eh, you could build a case. 213 00:15:01.840 --> 00:15:05.039 Then when I left over time, something was lost. But that's not 214 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:09.759 what this is about. Because I had enough in that company. I'll tell 215 00:15:09.799 --> 00:15:13.799 you. When the present company announced that they were selling the van using company 216 00:15:13.799 --> 00:15:18.279 and the izod company, it was the second Lodger's reaction. We've got to 217 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:24.000 social media. Eight thousand people commented on my show, our show where we 218 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:28.440 talked about you failed, there's no way around it. The first largest reaction 219 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:31.519 we got was twelve thousand people with Jesse and I announced that my wife and 220 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:37.919 his mom passed away. Twelve thousand people. But only second eight thousand people 221 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:41.480 got crazed when they heard that the van user his company was sold for scraps. 222 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:46.519 I hated it, but it was part of life. As I talk 223 00:15:46.600 --> 00:15:50.200 about, and on the subject, I have enough. Even more importantly than 224 00:15:50.279 --> 00:15:56.320 money, let me tell you what I have. I learned so much about 225 00:15:56.399 --> 00:16:03.120 people. I realized how important value use were in life than in business. 226 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:10.399 I realized how important it was for me to build character in the scheme of 227 00:16:10.480 --> 00:16:15.559 things. More than anything. I learned respect for institutions, for people, 228 00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:22.039 for teams, for brands, for companies, for customers. I learned how 229 00:16:22.039 --> 00:16:29.519 to navigate through corporate life. I learned how to have corporate responsibilities. I 230 00:16:29.639 --> 00:16:36.519 learned skill sets that would take me anywhere even now. Pound for pound, 231 00:16:36.600 --> 00:16:41.639 I know more about the verse operating issues than anyone in the fashion, luxury 232 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:45.879 and retail industry. I could go up against on Jeopardy in any company, 233 00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:49.720 from inception to execution, from design to implementation, from sourcing to warehouse and 234 00:16:49.759 --> 00:16:56.039 distribution. Pound for pound, there's no one better than me. And when 235 00:16:56.080 --> 00:17:02.320 it comes to people, I am an expert world class with world responsibilities, 236 00:17:02.360 --> 00:17:07.880 having traveled around the world negotiating with people, learning that you can be as 237 00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:11.720 tough as you want, but you have to remember everyone has to win in 238 00:17:11.759 --> 00:17:18.000 a negotiation. So what have I had When I say I have enough from 239 00:17:18.039 --> 00:17:25.160 money to character, take a break back in a minute. Always in fashions, 240 00:17:25.599 --> 00:17:27.720 I've been shopping for fun lately, and while I'm out, I always 241 00:17:27.720 --> 00:17:30.559 look at men's and I look at women's what's going on? And I was 242 00:17:30.599 --> 00:17:36.519 particularly interested in dk Y because of their sponsorship of the show. I went 243 00:17:36.559 --> 00:17:41.200 downstairs at Macy's thirty fourth Street to look around and I saw k Y active 244 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:45.240 Wear, and I promise you, ladies, it is sensational. From the 245 00:17:45.240 --> 00:17:48.400 sports bras to the crop tops, to the leggings and the sweats. It 246 00:17:48.519 --> 00:17:52.720 really is a great look. And dk Y had begun as an all American 247 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:59.359 brand dressing casual clothes engines, and the stuff looks incredible and right now the 248 00:17:59.440 --> 00:18:03.119 colors and the styles is so exciting that I feel great about the company. 249 00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:07.160 I always do. I wear the men's where all the time. I've had 250 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:12.119 situations where I've gone to big events and been interviewed and TV or the radio, 251 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:15.160 and someone comes up to me in the microphone and like they always do, 252 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:18.000 who you're wearing? And here I am, this big shot with big 253 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:22.079 company, and they say, well, I'm wearing a DKY and they laugh 254 00:18:22.119 --> 00:18:23.359 and say, no, you're not. I actually have one on the internet 255 00:18:23.359 --> 00:18:26.559 where you could see me. They asked me what suit I'm wearing, and 256 00:18:26.599 --> 00:18:30.319 I say d and why and open it up and there's the DKY label great 257 00:18:30.359 --> 00:18:34.640 fashion, it fits well, it looks right. It's designed to make you 258 00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:37.680 comfortable in the city, goes from day and tonight. You could wear it 259 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:40.880 in the morning, you wear it in the afternoon, and you look cool 260 00:18:40.920 --> 00:18:42.119 at night as well. It's great for the office, it's a great for 261 00:18:42.240 --> 00:18:47.519 leisure. But I'm talking about the DKY activewear. The first time I really 262 00:18:47.559 --> 00:18:49.839 became aware of that, Jesse and I were up at Sirius Radio. He 263 00:18:49.960 --> 00:18:55.759 was doing a job for Serious he does Dan Abrams show, he fills in 264 00:18:55.880 --> 00:18:59.240 on the Potus Network, and we were in the lobby and this hip hop 265 00:18:59.279 --> 00:19:06.640 group came up. Well, this really great looking Latino singer girl Young beautiful, 266 00:19:06.640 --> 00:19:08.640 and she was wearing a DKY sports bar and I said to myself, 267 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:12.640 this is amazing. Actually went to Macy's to see it, and I'm excited 268 00:19:12.680 --> 00:19:15.519 about the brand. And I tell you what, ladies, dk Y always 269 00:19:15.559 --> 00:19:21.400 has great fashion for work, always wonderful dresses and things that you'd wear. 270 00:19:21.400 --> 00:19:25.880 Their accessories are great, the shoes are always very cool. But active wear 271 00:19:25.880 --> 00:19:30.039 in particular right now looks sensational and being that everyone's at leisure and active where 272 00:19:30.119 --> 00:19:33.960 it's a great time. DKY go take a look. Been a lifetime of 273 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:37.920 my career building the van Usen brand, and I am so pleased that they're 274 00:19:37.920 --> 00:19:44.920 back with us now talking about suits, men were dressing up again and it's 275 00:19:44.960 --> 00:19:48.000 become cool to wear a suit. Suits can be one on multiple occasions, 276 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:52.839 in multiple ways. You could wear a suit formally to go out at night 277 00:19:52.079 --> 00:19:55.759 or to an event. You could wear a suit to the office with or 278 00:19:55.759 --> 00:20:00.519 without a tie. If you look closely, now fashion trends suits one with 279 00:20:00.599 --> 00:20:07.079 turtlenecks or mark next. The choices are endless and every one of them looks 280 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:11.400 right. You could really really look the part. I believe that packaging yourself 281 00:20:11.440 --> 00:20:15.960 this is important, does the products you package and wearing a suit is one 282 00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:21.519 of those things that make men look their best. Venuesing invented a new idea. 283 00:20:21.640 --> 00:20:26.440 It's called the cool flex suit. It's been engineered with stretched technology, 284 00:20:26.799 --> 00:20:30.240 giving you the most comfortable fit and mobility. Its wrinkle resistant fabric, it's 285 00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:36.079 cool moisture wicki it makes it perfect for all occasions. As we discussed just 286 00:20:36.200 --> 00:20:41.920 now, this new style of looking sharp while feeling cool and comfortable is amazing, 287 00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:45.599 and I'm so excited that the ven Using company is involved in this new 288 00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:52.200 technology and is embracing the whole idea of dressing up. Let's not forget Venues 289 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:56.359 and made it's name with dress shirts. It's only proper that the suit business 290 00:20:56.400 --> 00:21:00.359 follows strongly in its way. You can find van Ues and Kulflex Men's stretch 291 00:21:00.440 --> 00:21:07.119 suits at jcpenny are online at jcpenny dot com. Guys, they're great. 292 00:21:07.160 --> 00:21:11.680 You should go look at them. Welcome back to Always in Fashion. Here's 293 00:21:11.680 --> 00:21:17.160 your host, Mark Webber. While living life, reading, writing, watching 294 00:21:17.240 --> 00:21:22.640 the world go by, being my recrusive self, something caught my attention of 295 00:21:22.680 --> 00:21:27.160 all things. Jim Carrey announced his retirement from acting, and it was brilliant 296 00:21:27.160 --> 00:21:30.839 in what he had said. I wished I would have thought of it, 297 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:34.880 because it described exactly how I look at myself and where I am in life. 298 00:21:36.279 --> 00:21:41.400 I have enough, I've done enough, I am enough. The idea 299 00:21:41.599 --> 00:21:47.559 of packaging this succinct statement means so much to me. It got me thinking. 300 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:52.160 I talked about in chapter one, the fact that when I say I 301 00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:56.559 have enough, it's not just about money. It's the skills, the education 302 00:21:56.720 --> 00:22:00.519 that I've acquired, my understanding of people, how I related them, my 303 00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:06.519 appreciation for the successes that I saw from great people, from great teamwork, 304 00:22:06.559 --> 00:22:11.000 from people believing in a brand and wanting to win. I have enough. 305 00:22:11.880 --> 00:22:15.880 Then I started to think, and here I am now talking about chapter two, 306 00:22:15.480 --> 00:22:18.440 I've done enough. When I left v and Eusen, I thought of 307 00:22:18.519 --> 00:22:25.680 retiring. Had thirty solid years with twenty five different assignments in my first twenty 308 00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:30.559 five years, accomplished incredible things. I began as a kid, as I 309 00:22:30.640 --> 00:22:36.599 said earlier, and turned into a CEO, a board member, a president. 310 00:22:37.559 --> 00:22:41.599 I learned so much, and then, through circumstances that I don't choose 311 00:22:41.640 --> 00:22:45.640 to talk about right now, some great things happened. But I ended up 312 00:22:45.720 --> 00:22:52.039 leaving the company, and I thought about retiring because I said in chapter one, 313 00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:56.119 I have enough. I could have retired and never looked back, and 314 00:22:56.200 --> 00:23:02.799 I thought real hard about that. But I wasn't going to allow three board 315 00:23:02.839 --> 00:23:07.359 members who sat on the PVH board who no longer loved me, to determine 316 00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:11.640 the future of my career. Now, I've got to tell you, it 317 00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:15.839 is not easy coming back. But when you think about having to come back 318 00:23:15.960 --> 00:23:19.759 or wanting to come back at the top of the pyramid as a CEO, 319 00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:25.880 it's near impossible. But what came to mind is George Patten. It's not 320 00:23:25.960 --> 00:23:29.519 how far you fall, but it's how high you bounce back. And that's 321 00:23:29.559 --> 00:23:33.880 what drove me. As I'm sitting there watching the world go by, I 322 00:23:33.079 --> 00:23:37.279 realized I was too young, had too much left to do, and I 323 00:23:37.440 --> 00:23:41.119 wanted to do more. I had not done enough, and I ended up, 324 00:23:41.359 --> 00:23:47.319 through some luck, some inspiration, some hard work, keeping my eyes 325 00:23:47.400 --> 00:23:52.640 open and having this desire to make a statement interviewing at LVMH, the largest 326 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:59.960 most successful luxury fashion retail conglomerate in the world. The hardest arithmetic the mass 327 00:24:00.559 --> 00:24:03.720 is that would enable you to count your blessings, and that's what I'm doing 328 00:24:03.799 --> 00:24:07.839 here. I went to LVMH. I was a CEO of their corporate office 329 00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:11.319 LVMH Inc. In the United States, responsible for the real estate. I 330 00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:17.000 was responsible for human resource. I was responsible for the legal team, all 331 00:24:17.039 --> 00:24:19.680 of them reporting into me to one degree another. I had something contribute and 332 00:24:19.799 --> 00:24:23.640 always plenty to learn. I ran multiple companies for the group and it was 333 00:24:23.680 --> 00:24:29.640 fascinating and exciting. But what did I bring to the table. You know, 334 00:24:29.680 --> 00:24:33.960 when you work for a company, there is only one reason the companies 335 00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:38.039 exist, Jesse. I always love asking you this, Why do companies exist? 336 00:24:38.200 --> 00:24:41.079 It's a great question. Some people will say, oh, you know, 337 00:24:41.240 --> 00:24:45.039 we want to put out a great product for the world. Others will 338 00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:48.279 say, we want to build up our brand. The only reason, the 339 00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:52.319 number one reason, is to make money. That's it. And anybody that 340 00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:56.279 tells you differently is not a serious person in business. Thank you, Jesse. 341 00:24:56.680 --> 00:25:00.920 I couldn't agree with you more. That's a lesson I got from Seymour 342 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:04.160 Phillips, the grandson of the founder of Phillips van Using, when he asked 343 00:25:04.200 --> 00:25:08.480 myself and my compatriot right at the beginning, we saw him in the hallway 344 00:25:08.519 --> 00:25:11.559 at the company, said I gotta ask you a question, Guys, why 345 00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:15.400 do you think we're all here. Well, we're here, mister Phillips, 346 00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:18.079 to build the greatest company in the wrong he said, No, my friend 347 00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:21.680 said, we're here to build the most powerful brand. No, we're here 348 00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:23.559 to be successful. He said, what does that mean. There's only one 349 00:25:23.599 --> 00:25:27.319 reason we're here. It's to make money, and everything you do has to 350 00:25:27.359 --> 00:25:32.359 be focused on making money. And with that as a backdrop, I joined 351 00:25:32.519 --> 00:25:37.480 LVMH spent eight years there. Came in with a lot of skills, but 352 00:25:37.640 --> 00:25:41.000 was there for a reason I was the fourth CEO in six years since they 353 00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:45.079 made the acquisition. There were three CEOs before me. Each one of them 354 00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:48.799 was very gifted and very capable. One of them was the former CEO of 355 00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:53.039 Sacks Fifth Avenue. He understood retailing cold. He never was involved with a 356 00:25:53.079 --> 00:25:57.119 wholesale business. We had to turn around and sell people who had to beg 357 00:25:57.279 --> 00:26:02.480 for the orders rather than you sit there be Sacks Fifth Avenue like the Emperor 358 00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:06.799 in Rome with his finger up or down making decisions. He had actually sell 359 00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:11.079 goods. Secondarily, there was an amazing guy who came from Georgie o'manni with 360 00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:15.039 luxury skills, but he too didn't have the experience of what it takes to 361 00:26:15.079 --> 00:26:19.759 do big American brands in America that also operated in the rest of the world. 362 00:26:19.799 --> 00:26:23.279 Unless but at least there was attorney who was an expert in licensing and 363 00:26:23.359 --> 00:26:29.480 international licensing, but he too didn't have the skill sets required to manufacture, 364 00:26:29.720 --> 00:26:36.079 to understand what took to be successful in this complicated global operating company, and 365 00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:41.400 yours truly did. That's why Elvimh hired me. I'll never forget they were 366 00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:45.839 talking about how they were in the Americas taken with Ralph Lauren and that company, 367 00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:49.640 and they readily admitted that they wanted to hire the CEO of Ralph, 368 00:26:49.640 --> 00:26:53.279 but he wasn't interested. And I remember saying in my first interview to the 369 00:26:53.319 --> 00:26:57.640 president with the managing director of LVMH, well you've decided you can't have the 370 00:26:57.720 --> 00:27:02.039 number one company, but you can have the guy who oversees number two, 371 00:27:02.279 --> 00:27:04.799 Calvin Klein. I was the president CEO of that company. I know what 372 00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:08.000 you want it, Ralph, and I can deliver it very compelling argument. 373 00:27:08.079 --> 00:27:15.160 But that's again for another time. My largest area of responsibility was to come 374 00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:21.359 in and turn the Donnakaron Dky Company into a profitable entity for the group. 375 00:27:21.559 --> 00:27:26.519 And because I had enough. As I'd mentioned in chapter one, I wasn't 376 00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:32.400 there for the money. I wasn't there for ego. I wasn't there other 377 00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:36.480 than to prove that I had more in me, and I had more to 378 00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:41.279 give, and I had more than I wanted to accomplish. And what could 379 00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:47.079 be better than the world's largest luxury company, owner of sixty two brands around 380 00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:51.079 the world in the globe, and having a company that they purchased six years 381 00:27:51.079 --> 00:27:55.599 early. They couldn't seem to get right what an opportunity. Well, it 382 00:27:55.640 --> 00:28:00.079 was a little bit about the money. Well, always about the money. 383 00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:07.480 They didn't pay you in IOUs. No, they were very very very very 384 00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:11.400 generous. And you know what, like in most capitalism, I earned every 385 00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:15.119 penny. I delivered what they needed and I did well for it. So 386 00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:19.599 chapter two helped me on the scale of things of having enough. But thank 387 00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:25.359 you for pointing that out. I realized when I joined the Donna Karen company 388 00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:30.359 Decay why I always said that this is one of the great brands in America. 389 00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:34.559 I had been the licensee for that company when we launched DK and Y 390 00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:41.079 dress shirts, and I tell you it was the largest quickest designer growing company 391 00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:45.359 in the history of shirts in America. I saw it firsthand how powerful that 392 00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:48.240 brand was. So I had a history to it. I had an infinity, 393 00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:51.319 and I had a respect for Donna Karen, the woman achieved, and 394 00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:55.920 I was thrilled to be a part of that. So here I am joining 395 00:28:55.920 --> 00:29:00.319 a company elim h who really did everything well, and here I was signed 396 00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:03.119 to one of their problem children. And I had to figure it out. 397 00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:07.839 And when you talk to companies that are failing, and you listen closely and 398 00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:12.920 you keep the mouth close. You have to know when to talk and when 399 00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:17.400 to listen. And I joined this company realizing that there was more that I 400 00:29:17.480 --> 00:29:23.079 didn't know than I did know. And I was very, very careful when 401 00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:26.839 I joined. I knew with in joining a company, I needed to develop 402 00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:33.000 a mantra. I needed to develop something that would work for everyone. As 403 00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:37.799 I became wise, I realized that well done is better than well said. 404 00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:41.519 I call on Benjamin Franklin for that on a night I'm being appreciative. That 405 00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:45.039 was his quote, well done is better than well said. But I joined 406 00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:51.720 this company and I realized that something was wrong. First week, I started 407 00:29:51.720 --> 00:29:56.400 interviewing various different people from all the management positions, and the most popular sentence 408 00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:00.599 to everything I asked, well, can I be honest with you? Let 409 00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:03.640 me be honest with you. Is it okay if I was honest with you? 410 00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:07.240 And I started getting crazy and I said, what kind of what does 411 00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:08.680 that mean? Can I be honest with you? No? Lie to me. 412 00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:12.000 It got so bad that I called my assistant in. I had a 413 00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:18.039 huge chafing dish that I acquired over the years and put it in the center 414 00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:21.519 of my conference room, and I told the management team where they are together 415 00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:23.799 going through one of our exercises, when everyone was saying, can I be 416 00:30:23.799 --> 00:30:27.079 honest with you? From here on in, anybody says can I be honest 417 00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:30.680 with you? They put a dollar. After one week, it became five 418 00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:33.400 dollars. They didn't learn their lesson. We filled up that chafing dish, 419 00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:36.319 that bowl in a month. It was crazy. We gave them money to 420 00:30:36.440 --> 00:30:40.519 charity. I realized when people are saying that they're uncomfortable, they don't feel 421 00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:45.000 good chatting among themselves. Either they don't trust the management and they don't trust 422 00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:48.559 each other. The second third I learned when I was talking to him goes 423 00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:52.680 back to what we said a few moments ago. They thought their job was 424 00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:56.240 to build the best brand in the world. They thought their job was to 425 00:30:56.279 --> 00:31:00.839 be a homage to the Donna Karen person into the company, and it wasn't. 426 00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:07.400 They didn't think about making money. They didn't understand that everything you do 427 00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:12.599 to build your brand is marketing, and the sole reason to market is to 428 00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:17.359 increase the value of your brand. And the reason you're increasing the value of 429 00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:21.319 the brand is that you could make profits. And here's this company with six 430 00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:23.920 years, three CEOs never made a profit. Or certainly never made the profits 431 00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:27.160 that LVMH thought they should. And they called on me to do this, 432 00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:34.680 and I was fanatical about giving them what they needed for giving me my second 433 00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:40.160 career. So I watched, I listened, and I learned, and once 434 00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:44.039 I knew what I wanted to do, once I knew what had to be 435 00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:48.200 done to fix the company, I hired an outside consultant, told them what 436 00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:51.400 I was trying to achieve, told them the reasons, the rationale. I 437 00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:56.000 gave them my plan and asked them to professionally package it for me. What 438 00:31:56.079 --> 00:32:01.000 you say is always important, but how you package what you say is even 439 00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:06.839 more important. And I had these people come in to help me package this 440 00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:12.559 and present it to LVMH, the finest luxury retail fashion company in the world. 441 00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:16.960 I spent three months observing this company, working with them, never giving 442 00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:21.920 them the plan, answering all the questions, providing a source of information, 443 00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:29.319 providing rock hard positions on whatever made sense. I became resolute. If it 444 00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:31.680 didn't make sense, if it didn't build a company, if it didn't of 445 00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:36.400 the value, if it didn't build profits, the answer would be no. 446 00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:42.519 I knew also that wise men speak when they have something to say. Fools 447 00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:47.119 speak because they have to say something. I was very careful on what I 448 00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:52.680 laid out, and with management and with this consulting company, we put down 449 00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:58.559 a plan on paper for turning that company into a profit sector the likes of 450 00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:04.319 which LVMH had never seen. On an execution side, I strengthened on licensing. 451 00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:08.480 Core Licensing is those things you do to extend your brand that will provide 452 00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:13.960 goodwill in categories that make sense for your brand that you do not have the 453 00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:17.000 expertise. So it could be fragrance, it could be watchmaking, it could 454 00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:22.319 be sunglasses. These are fashion accessories that sell like crazy. You find experts 455 00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:25.440 in these business, you rent them the brand, they pay you for use 456 00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:30.000 rent if you will, called royalty, and you go out and do it 457 00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:32.039 and you make tons of money. When I came in, I found that 458 00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:37.759 some of the licensees in the company shared my vision for the company. Either 459 00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:39.359 they were in or they were out. If they were out, I replaced 460 00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:44.799 them. Had one licensing and Intimate Apparel. Liked the small nature of the 461 00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:47.400 business. It was the star at the top of the Christmas tree, as 462 00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:51.880 they explained it. That's not what I wanted. I wanted the Christmas Tree, 463 00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:53.680 I wanted the volume. I wanted to compete with Calvin Klein. Are 464 00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:57.160 you willing to do that with me? No? I replaced them with a 465 00:33:57.200 --> 00:34:00.680 company that said they understood and good and we did that. I changed our 466 00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:06.039 model to a profit model. Don't tell me how good it feels hiring the 467 00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:09.760 finest models in the world. The most exciting actors and actress is to sit 468 00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:14.280 at our runway show. Don't do it to me unless you are going to 469 00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:16.039 prove to me that we're going to do more business. I don't want the 470 00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:21.119 greatest colors in the world if they don't represent the greatest sales business. There's 471 00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:25.679 one reason to be in business, to make money. And that's what I 472 00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:30.119 was focused on. Over the course of my eight year tenure at LVMH and 473 00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:36.840 Donna Karen, every year we had profit records. Even in two thousand and 474 00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:40.440 eight, going back to the recession, we excelled. I remember getting a 475 00:34:40.440 --> 00:34:44.840 call from the managing director to us here in the United States would be the 476 00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:47.000 president of the corporation. He asked me, what do I think about what's 477 00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:52.519 going on? And my exact quote was, well run companies thrive in difficult 478 00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:55.679 times. He said, how can you tell me that Mark? I said, 479 00:34:55.679 --> 00:35:00.039 look, we may not sell as much, but the reality is in 480 00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:04.320 business you make more on what you don't sell than what you sell. Keep 481 00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:07.800 your inventories lean. Don't have surpluses that you have to give away or self 482 00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:13.000 for nothing that you have to discount to Tjmax or Ross stores. You have 483 00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:15.400 inventory, they own you. You sell it below course, you lose your 484 00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:22.480 money. Manage your inventory, put particular intention on the best products. Find 485 00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:27.880 core items that are cleverly disguised as fashion. The little Black dress is one 486 00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:30.400 of the best examples of that in women's wear. I learned that along the 487 00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:34.840 way, the same way white dress shirts or blue dress shirts, or khaki 488 00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:38.280 pants or simple genes. That's where you make your money. You put it 489 00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:42.519 in a store, the customer buys it, you replenish, it doesn't go 490 00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:44.960 out of style. You don't have to mark it down. You don't take 491 00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:50.599 losses. Manage your inventory, have an eye on your markups and your profits. 492 00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:55.280 Do not let anyone bully you. You have great brand. You sell 493 00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:58.719 it where you want to sell it, when you want to sell it. 494 00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:04.840 And explain to him that well run companies thrive in this business environment. One 495 00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:07.480 of my great stories that I'll elucidate in another time. A week later, 496 00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:12.280 letter comes out from one of the managers, one of the senior most people 497 00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:16.559 in the corporation, with the heading well run Companies Thrive in difficult environments. 498 00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:22.039 It was a rara speech to give to the sixty two CEOs and presidents of 499 00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:25.199 the various different divisions. I laughed to myself, never said a word until 500 00:36:25.199 --> 00:36:29.440 I got in the back of a limousine with that CEO and I said, 501 00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:32.079 you know, I really liked that letter. The headline sounded familiar, and 502 00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:34.920 he laughed. He said, you're right, Mark, it was you, 503 00:36:35.199 --> 00:36:37.559 and I thank you for it. By the way, this is why I 504 00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:43.519 had a concern about using Jim Carrey's quote for the show. Well I gave 505 00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:46.440 credit this case, just knowing that he knew was enough for me. I 506 00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:51.280 didn't need the accolades other than from the managing director of the company. That's 507 00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:57.039 good enough for me. So my mantra at LVMH was well done, was 508 00:36:57.079 --> 00:37:00.599 better than well said. At the end of my eight year ten I realized 509 00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:07.119 that LVMH and Donna Karen didn't belong together. We're American company that had a 510 00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:15.039 composite of luxury and modern basic product and LVMH was really about luxury. They 511 00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:19.519 really didn't want companies with components. They wanted luxury companies. And when I 512 00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:22.679 was convinced they wanted to sell it, I reminded them what they said the 513 00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:27.519 week I joined the company, that this brand is bigger than this business, 514 00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:31.000 that I am going to build you a huge business, and if and when, 515 00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:35.559 at the end of my tenure you don't want this company more, I 516 00:37:35.639 --> 00:37:38.760 will sell it for you at more money than you ever dream And I give 517 00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:45.000 you my word of honor out there that I introduced LVMH to the company that 518 00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:49.440 purchased them, and they paid what was a great price for that company, 519 00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:54.079 and they are doing extraordinarily well. And that is G three, my title 520 00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:58.679 sponsor they owned Donna Karen Dky. And I got to tell you, as 521 00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:01.480 I said negotiating, I have to remember both sides have to win. In 522 00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:06.920 this case. I one LVMH one and G three to one. And as 523 00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:10.400 I talk about tonight's show, I have enough. I've done enough, and 524 00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:15.000 I am enough. I'll tell you between what I did at Venues and and 525 00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:19.599 what I did at LVMH I've done enough. I'll take a break. We'll 526 00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:24.320 be back in a minute. Always in fashion, fall is now upon us, 527 00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:29.599 spring is gone, summer is over, and I'm tending to be a 528 00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:34.280 little upset, Except the four brings new challenges and new differences and a great 529 00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:38.039 new environment for us to thrive and enjoy. I, for one, love 530 00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:43.599 the change of the seasons because of the new fashion, and I am excited 531 00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:49.079 about my favorite brand, Iszot and what they bring to the party. When 532 00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:52.199 I used to work at the company and we were reinventing Iszot, which had 533 00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:55.440 always been a golf and tennis brand, we brought it to new heights, 534 00:38:55.480 --> 00:39:00.519 new dimensions. I thought Isaac would be practical in skiing, not necessarily for 535 00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:05.840 on the slopes, but for EPRISKI. What do people wear when they're relaxing, 536 00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:07.960 when they're in those hotels? What are you doing when you're at home? 537 00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:10.559 What are you wearing to the movies? What are you wearing to go 538 00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:14.559 out at night when you're no longer wearing your spring clothes? And here we 539 00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:16.840 are in full and I can tell you what it is. Polar flees, 540 00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:22.679 French dairy, different kinds of fleeces, color block, colors, sweaters, 541 00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:27.559 great, great long sleeve items come into play, and with ISAID, they 542 00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:31.800 were always about color and being colorful. I love what the brand represents, 543 00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:36.800 whether we're talking about color block or solid colors. Always with the logo, 544 00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:43.280 ISAAC brings a dimension to sportswear fashion at affordable prices that you can't find anywhere. 545 00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:47.280 And at the same time, it's all color related, from the woven 546 00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:51.840 shirts, from the nit shirts to the matching sweaters or the sweaters that will 547 00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:57.239 look great layering over these shirts. Always matching pants, beginning with the core 548 00:39:57.320 --> 00:40:01.159 color of khaki, working into the navies and the blacks. ISOD is a 549 00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:07.360 spectacular brand all about colors, and launching in full are the new fall shades 550 00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:12.880 you'll see in the stores. Listen, guys, Isod's a great brand. 551 00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:16.639 It's energetic, it's fun to be around, and it makes you feel and 552 00:40:16.760 --> 00:40:22.719 look your best. And now there's a color palette change and you get to 553 00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:27.159 change with it. ISOD. Come take a look. J C. Penny 554 00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:31.960 Cohal's and online ISID What a history. How much I enjoy this brand. 555 00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:37.800 As one of the world's most celebrated fashion designers, Carl Lagafeld was renowned for 556 00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:42.599 his aspirational and cutting edge approach to style. His unique vision of Parisian shit 557 00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:47.280 comes to America through car Lagafeld Paris. He has women's collections, men's collections, 558 00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:52.000 ready to wear, accessory, shoes and bags. The fashion house Carlagofeld 559 00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:55.559 also offers a range of watches, eyewear and premium fragrances. You can explore 560 00:40:55.920 --> 00:41:00.480 the car LAGOFL collection at car Lagofelparis dot com. But it's more than that, 561 00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:04.880 I for one, love to shop. I love going around and seeing 562 00:41:04.880 --> 00:41:08.000 what's happening and what catches my attention, what would make me feel good to 563 00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:12.639 wear now. I don't wear the women's wear obviously, but I can appreciate 564 00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:15.960 it and they look amazing. If you want to look right, you want 565 00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:19.360 to have clothes that fits you well. You want to look like you're wearing 566 00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:24.239 something that's very expensive, that's exclusive for you and yours. You can find 567 00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:30.960 it at very affordable prices at Macy's Orcarlagofel dot Comparis. The women's ready to 568 00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:34.880 wear fashion is extraordinary, as well as the handbigs and the shoes, I 569 00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:39.400 for one, wear men's clothes unlike my appreciation of women's clothes. I'm a 570 00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:43.440 modern guy. I want to look current, I want to look the way 571 00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:45.159 I want to feel. I go out at night, I'm in black and 572 00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:50.360 Carlagofel is my buddy. Cloths are great, they fit great, and they 573 00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:52.599 have little tweaks and touches, whether it's a stripe on the sleeve or button 574 00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:57.039 at the neck or on the shoulder. There's a lot of details that go 575 00:41:57.119 --> 00:42:00.960 into Carlagofel because he's always been he's bad, been one of the world's great 576 00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:06.079 designers, and this legacy and goes on and on. I can't speak enough 577 00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:08.039 about it except to say to you, you want to feel good about yourself. 578 00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:12.079 You want to know that you're dressing properly. You want clothes that fits 579 00:42:12.119 --> 00:42:19.440 you well. Carl Lagafeld Paris at Macy's Orcarl Lagafel dot com. Welcome back 580 00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:23.559 to Always in Fashion. Here's your host, Mark Webber. If you're lucky 581 00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:29.280 enough to have listened to the show from the beginning, I think you're one 582 00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:31.719 of the few, or maybe the many, or maybe the millions, so 583 00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:36.599 have the opportunity to listen to something that I think is very clever. Of 584 00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:39.039 all things. This week, reading, watching Living, life. I came 585 00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:44.880 across a quote from Jim Carrey, actor comedian, where he mentioned and he 586 00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:47.679 set out right, I'm retiring. I have enough, I've done enough, 587 00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:53.239 I am enough, talking about what he's acquired, what he's accomplished, and 588 00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:58.119 what he feels like as a human. And I was taken with this quote 589 00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:02.920 because it was a perfect way to articulate and sum up a man, and 590 00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:07.800 frankly, for me, it's exactly where I am. I've been thinking over 591 00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:12.519 the course of time about retiring. I've said it to myself. I've done 592 00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:15.840 the accounting, I have enough, I've done enough, I've proved enough. 593 00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:20.039 I am feeling good about myself. And I caught my attention and meant so 594 00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:23.159 much to me. I turned it into Tonight's show, Chapter one, I 595 00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:28.119 have enough, Chapter two, I've done enough. In chapter three, I 596 00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:32.079 am enough. You talked about something before you're alone time. I think you 597 00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:37.119 are a master at being good doing things on your own. I don't know 598 00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:39.800 if it was watching James Bond all those years or reading the books, but 599 00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:44.480 he spends so much of his time in isolation, going to restaurants, doing 600 00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:46.639 things himself. You're very good at that. Not everybody can do that well. 601 00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:52.079 I like my own counsel. Number one. Number two you forget when 602 00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:55.559 you were young, I spent an inordinate amount of time traveling around the world, 603 00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:00.000 and in my early days, of course, I traveled with very diverse 604 00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:02.800 groups of people. Everywhere I went, I either traveled with people, or 605 00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:07.119 when I arrived at a location, I had a foreign office and a group 606 00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:09.840 of people who had met me and take me through what needed to be done. 607 00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:14.159 As I got older, and during my time in LVMH, when you 608 00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:16.880 got to benefit by traveling with me, we were alone. I got to 609 00:44:16.920 --> 00:44:22.000 a point where I felt I would be more efficient traveling by myself than being 610 00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:24.400 with a group of people having to compromise on my time what I wanted to 611 00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:29.280 talk about. I didn't want that anymore, and I did it by myself. 612 00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:32.199 So I went from always traveling alone, having dinners alone, being on 613 00:44:32.239 --> 00:44:36.960 airplanes alone, and then meeting up with people to being on my own. 614 00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:40.480 And I enjoyed that time and it became very productive. I'm not one to 615 00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:44.239 sit there and go duh. If I'm watching a movie, I want to 616 00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:45.440 learn, I want to enjoy, I want to get something out of it. 617 00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:51.800 I'm reading constantly, I always say that success in life or in business 618 00:44:51.840 --> 00:44:55.199 comes from curiosity. There's never a moment in time that I'm not interested in 619 00:44:55.280 --> 00:45:00.280 learning something, And you're right, Jesse. I've gotten very very comfortable being 620 00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:06.400 alone, and I'm very very happy doing what I want when I want. 621 00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:12.960 I've mastered the art of being alone. I am never ever once hesitant being 622 00:45:12.960 --> 00:45:15.960 in a movie theater, being at a dinner table, being at a bar 623 00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:20.159 by myself, not seeking out people to talk to. I am enough. 624 00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:23.280 I am happy, which is the chapter we're discussing now on Jim Carrey. 625 00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:28.760 I am enough when I think about what I've done in life, when I've 626 00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:36.639 accomplished, I have had an incredibly diverse list of responsibilities. I've done things 627 00:45:36.679 --> 00:45:42.800 that include planning, design, sourcing, manufacturing, on and on and on 628 00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:47.159 every discipline. I understand the law from a layman's perspective. I understand manufacturing 629 00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:52.960 from a layman's perspective. I understand warehouse and distribution computer technology because I was 630 00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:59.000 involved in all of this and it all became part of me. I'll never 631 00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:01.280 forget one time and I was looking for a job, and I want to 632 00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:07.239 do this. Number two largest apparel company in the United States, to see 633 00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:10.559 if I could come in. The CEO just retired and he recommended me to 634 00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:15.440 fill his slot. And I was sitting with a headhunter in their firm, 635 00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:19.039 Spencer Stewart. I'll never forget. I don't want to mention the woman's name. 636 00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:22.840 And during the course of my interviewing with her, she was incredibly rude. 637 00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:27.719 She took phone calls, she answered her text she was paying attention to 638 00:46:27.760 --> 00:46:30.320 me. Half asked she was there, but she wasn't there. And I 639 00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:35.559 remember saying to myself, this is not being taken seriously. This is such 640 00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:38.320 disrespect. And as I was sitting there, I had a decision to make. 641 00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:44.000 Should I feel bad about myself or should I count my blessings? And 642 00:46:44.079 --> 00:46:46.760 as I sat there, I realized, during the course of the interview, 643 00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:52.840 no matter what subject she raised and asked a question about in between her Texas 644 00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:55.320 and her phone calls, whether it was finance, I had the answers, 645 00:46:55.599 --> 00:47:00.639 Whether or not it was international negotiations, I had the answer. Whether it 646 00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:04.440 was decision making a way to manufacture. I had the answers, whether it 647 00:47:04.480 --> 00:47:07.719 was retail and what stores my brand should be in. No matter what the 648 00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:13.800 subject matter, down to what are the most important items that a women's sportswear 649 00:47:13.880 --> 00:47:17.159 company should have or a men's sportswear company should have. I had all the 650 00:47:17.239 --> 00:47:22.360 answers, and at that time, I realized, you can take the job 651 00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:25.760 away from me, but you can't take what I've learned, my education and 652 00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:30.239 my skills. And that brought me to new heights. So when I think 653 00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:36.559 about am I enough me the individual? I've learned enough, I've done enough. 654 00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:40.880 I am so happy with what I managed to achieve in my life and 655 00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:45.480 my career. Now I have two amazing sons, one of which you listened 656 00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:50.639 to with me on the radio, Jesse Weber, who's doing amazing things changing 657 00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:53.920 careers from law to entertainment, being on the radio as a host on various 658 00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:59.239 different stations, being on television a news nation, being the host of Law 659 00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:04.280 and Crime Network, unbelievable success. My other son, Jared, works for 660 00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:08.360 a company called Authentic Brands Group. He's risen from a licensing attorney to president 661 00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:13.239 of their Lifestyle, the largest division representing some say, eighty percent of the 662 00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:17.199 entire thirty billion dollar group, relatively overnight. So I'm proud of my sons. 663 00:48:17.480 --> 00:48:22.320 I'm proud of my wife, who was an amazing, amazing woman. 664 00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:25.840 We lost her five years ago, much too young. But she made this 665 00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:30.760 family into what it was. She made me into what I was. She 666 00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:34.119 taught me what right from wrong. I was a baby when we first got 667 00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:37.719 married. She was maturre even though she was younger. What she did for 668 00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:39.679 our family, set the goals, set the rules, set the right and 669 00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:45.639 wrong was amazing. And it turned me into what I think is the right 670 00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:47.760 kind of father. And in turn, what has it done to me? 671 00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:52.840 It taught me again how important people are. Taught me how important it was 672 00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:58.320 to mentor people, how important it was that when someone asks you a question, 673 00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:00.880 you can give him the answer. But his famous loud sue, the 674 00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:06.800 Chinese Feloficis said, give a man of fish'alid for a day, teach 675 00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:09.320 a man of fish, he'll ead for a lifetime. I became a mentor. 676 00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:14.239 When someone needed answers, I gave them stories like I do to you 677 00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:19.159 here. I wrote two books, and both of those books, particularly the 678 00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:23.199 last one, Always in Fashion, is inspiration for people. It's lessons learned 679 00:49:23.239 --> 00:49:29.679 through example. I am told that every time an adult reads that book, 680 00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:32.599 they give it to their children. I've been told thousands of times that have 681 00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:37.320 happened I've been written to to this day. The book came out in twenty 682 00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:39.519 fifteen. I'm still getting lessons that I gave it to my son, or 683 00:49:39.519 --> 00:49:44.800 I gave it to my daughter. So most importantly, I impressed my wife 684 00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:47.760 that I'm a good guy. I've been a role model to my children. 685 00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:54.119 And then, after turning thousands and thousands of lemons to lemonade, I made 686 00:49:54.119 --> 00:50:00.400 a decision to leave everything that I knew to become a radio and podcasts talk 687 00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:06.039 show hosts. What do I know about it? Nothing? What do I 688 00:50:06.119 --> 00:50:10.920 know about gaining sponsorships? Nothing? What did I know about organizing radio and 689 00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:15.000 podcast shows? Nothing? What did I know about writing? What did I 690 00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:19.559 know about developing content? What did I know about getting guests? What do 691 00:50:19.639 --> 00:50:22.360 I know about picking subjects? What did I know about any of this? 692 00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:27.639 The answer was nothing? And yet here we are, in our eighth year 693 00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:30.800 on the radio, on the largest radio station in New York, maybe in 694 00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:36.039 the world. I'm told WYNS WINS because they do news and weather constantly, 695 00:50:36.320 --> 00:50:38.800 is the biggest radio station in the country. But from talk radio, w 696 00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:42.840 R is right up there, the voice of New York. And we are 697 00:50:42.920 --> 00:50:46.039 here in my eighth year. So when I realize I've done all of this 698 00:50:46.599 --> 00:50:53.320 and I'm talking about chapter three, I am enough. I feel great about 699 00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:58.280 what and who I am. I one hundred percent agree with you. What 700 00:50:58.360 --> 00:51:01.280 you've done is incredible. I'm always of the opinion that you have so much 701 00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:04.760 more to offer. But the first thing that I thought about when I was 702 00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:07.599 hearing you say this, do you remember back on Saturday Night Live when they 703 00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:10.639 had that guy who would look in the mirror and he goes, I am 704 00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:14.760 enough, I'm great. You know what I'm talking about. No, but 705 00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:19.360 I'm listening Robert Smiley, the guy with the sweater, like I am enough, 706 00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:21.920 I'm great. Well, if you say it that way, I feel 707 00:51:21.920 --> 00:51:24.000 like Robert de Niro and Raging Bull looking in the mirror and fighting. You 708 00:51:24.039 --> 00:51:28.360 know. That's what I feel like I'm doing right now. Talking about movies, 709 00:51:28.679 --> 00:51:30.639 when you were saying how you made it to the top, took a 710 00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:35.400 step back, had to make it to the top again. That's like any 711 00:51:35.440 --> 00:51:38.199 boxing movie. That's like, you know, you achieved the pinnacle of what 712 00:51:38.239 --> 00:51:42.440 you're trying to do, get knocked off, then you make it up again. 713 00:51:42.519 --> 00:51:45.440 It's so hard to do that and not everybody can do that, So 714 00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:49.320 I always gave you credit a lot for that part of your career, which 715 00:51:49.639 --> 00:51:51.960 was a little bit of a transition for a lot of us. You know. 716 00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:55.159 I mentioned my friend Stuart Rosenthal before. One of my favorite times with 717 00:51:55.239 --> 00:51:59.400 him is when we were young in our careers. Every day where you would 718 00:51:59.400 --> 00:52:01.360 have lunch to get if we could, we'd take a walk to Central Park. 719 00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:05.920 We would eat in the Blarney Stone to save money. But during the 720 00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:09.119 walk he would tell me what's going on good with his company or not going 721 00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:13.840 on well, and I would talk about my aches and pains and the disappointments 722 00:52:13.880 --> 00:52:17.400 I had. And there was one particular case where someone was promoted ahead of 723 00:52:17.400 --> 00:52:21.400 me. I thought I looked better, I thought I acted better. I 724 00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:23.360 thought my approach was better. I thought I was more talented, and yet 725 00:52:23.360 --> 00:52:28.159 he got promoted. And in hindsight, he deserved to be. It's the 726 00:52:28.239 --> 00:52:31.320 powers to be that determine he deserved it. Not me, But my friend 727 00:52:31.320 --> 00:52:34.639 Stewart looked at me and he said, you're looking at it all wrong. 728 00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:37.639 This is a prize fight, Mark, this is the second round, it's 729 00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:42.559 not the fifteen round. You're going to go the distance you have talent in 730 00:52:42.639 --> 00:52:46.559 so many different eras. Talent always wins. You cannot lay down. This 731 00:52:46.639 --> 00:52:51.360 fight isn't over. You're coming back. Never forgot it. Great lesson. 732 00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:54.679 With that as a backdrop tonight's show, I want to thank Jim Carrey again 733 00:52:55.239 --> 00:53:00.199 without plagiarizing. I have to give him credit. Caught my attention so clearly 734 00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:06.599 this week. I have enough, I've done enough, and I am enough. 735 00:53:07.239 --> 00:53:07.480 Hope you enjoy good night,