WEBVTT 1 00:00:20.160 --> 00:00:24.359 Good evening. Never read by there. I don't vollue you, but I'm 2 00:00:24.440 --> 00:00:29.640 fired up because we are on fire up. I hope you had a great 3 00:00:29.719 --> 00:00:34.200 weekend. Segue intended, you know, that's what it is. Good evening. 4 00:00:34.359 --> 00:00:37.560 Everybody in My name is Scott Morgan, ROTHELM Motor City, Madmouth. 5 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:43.000 Glad to have you on to night, and our main focus of conversation night 6 00:00:43.039 --> 00:00:47.920 we're gonna be recapping the Kentucky Derby. We're gonna talk about handicapping spring football, 7 00:00:48.640 --> 00:00:52.200 and we're also going to talk about the National Hockey League and the NBA 8 00:00:52.640 --> 00:00:55.719 the two games that went in overtime. With that said, so I hope 9 00:00:55.759 --> 00:00:58.920 you can stay. Well, it's the entire broadcast. I'm going to introduce 10 00:00:58.920 --> 00:01:03.039 a crew right to left, all right, smoking, Jeremy Be welcome back, 11 00:01:03.079 --> 00:01:04.920 my friend, glad to be here, Ray to talk some sports. 12 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:08.200 And Chris Peartle welcome back. Been off a little bit of time, but 13 00:01:08.239 --> 00:01:12.400 we're gonna get him back in the regular rotation, right CP. Thank you, 14 00:01:12.480 --> 00:01:17.120 Scott, good to be with you tonight. And John Ryan. I'll 15 00:01:17.159 --> 00:01:21.000 tell you I could drag him in anywhere when my instincts start telling me we 16 00:01:21.079 --> 00:01:23.719 need to bring this cat On Man and we got the show for him tonight. 17 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:26.480 John, hope you had a good weekend. Glad to be here, 18 00:01:26.519 --> 00:01:30.079 and yeah, looking forward to talking about the weekend, all right. And 19 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:36.000 last one, I'll leave George Iikorn, good evening, Scott and Fellow's good 20 00:01:36.040 --> 00:01:40.239 to be on. Thank you George Iikorn, fresh off of basketball's yesterday, 21 00:01:40.239 --> 00:01:44.280 and hello Will Vocal, good evening to you. I'm sure that Will will 22 00:01:44.280 --> 00:01:48.439 provide some time and comments in the chat room. But let's get right to 23 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:51.519 it, all right, Jeremy, We're gonna do a little bit of recapital 24 00:01:51.640 --> 00:01:53.840 that Kentucky derby. By the way, I'm wearing a little Kentucky hat that 25 00:01:53.879 --> 00:01:57.719 I got over at the truck stop. Going off, you can see the 26 00:01:57.760 --> 00:02:01.680 big state of Kentucky, but it's on there anyways, So signify that when 27 00:02:01.719 --> 00:02:05.359 you get a hat, you never know what it's going to come into play. 28 00:02:05.599 --> 00:02:07.639 All right, Jeremy, go ahead, let's recap this all right. 29 00:02:08.039 --> 00:02:13.360 At fourth place, we had Disarm. At third place, we had Angel 30 00:02:13.439 --> 00:02:17.560 of Empire in second place. We had two fills in first place, by 31 00:02:17.599 --> 00:02:23.240 a whole length was made. Angel Empire was a half link behind two Fills, 32 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:25.919 and Disarmed was a half at lenked behind Angel of Empire, so it 33 00:02:25.960 --> 00:02:30.400 was a very close knit race at the top. So did you wash a 34 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:37.280 race smoking? Yes, I actually did lorior overall impressions of that race. 35 00:02:39.199 --> 00:02:44.400 It's always fun to watch horse racing because I used to ride horses myself. 36 00:02:44.759 --> 00:02:50.520 I never raced them, but I did ride them. But it looked it 37 00:02:50.560 --> 00:02:53.960 looked a little different than what I remember. That's all good, All right? 38 00:02:54.000 --> 00:02:59.159 Well, John Ryan, you know this is your business here, handicapping. 39 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:02.599 So what I want to do John, before we talk about this Kentucky 40 00:03:02.680 --> 00:03:08.240 Derby, why don't you recap what you talked about last Monday night when we 41 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:14.800 were previewing the race. Well, you know, we recapped to recap the 42 00:03:14.879 --> 00:03:20.120 race. We had five scratches that most of them occurred after our show. 43 00:03:21.319 --> 00:03:23.919 So for the first time many many years, my handicapping, you know, 44 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:29.280 for the show, even on Tuesday and Wednesday, was going up in smoke 45 00:03:29.360 --> 00:03:32.759 and I had to like restart and what I found more difficult and more of 46 00:03:32.759 --> 00:03:38.639 a challenging this year than any other Kentucky Derby, was am I super effectives? 47 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:42.360 Who am I going to put in that third and fourth row? There 48 00:03:42.360 --> 00:03:46.280 were so many fifty to one shots, and which is that one that's gonna 49 00:03:46.400 --> 00:03:50.400 you know, you know wreck most of the pyramids and you know, most 50 00:03:50.439 --> 00:03:53.400 of all help mine. And I think I might have, in hindsight, 51 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:58.719 put too much focus on that. And I didn't see Maje as a winner. 52 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:02.800 Honestly. I don't think any anybody really, you know, saw that 53 00:04:02.919 --> 00:04:06.520 coming. But it happened. And you know, at fifteen to one, 54 00:04:08.080 --> 00:04:12.000 that was a horse that I had in my second row, I had Angel 55 00:04:12.039 --> 00:04:15.800 of Vampire to win. I hated it when I got I got Angel of 56 00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:19.319 Vampire right after all, right before our show last Monday, at ten to 57 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:23.800 one, So that was one of the one of the favorites. I had 58 00:04:23.839 --> 00:04:26.800 Forte as well, and I don't like playing favorites, as you know, 59 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:30.199 you know, all you guys know that. You know, I just feel 60 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:32.759 like I'm making a bad decision right away. And then all of a sudden, 61 00:04:32.800 --> 00:04:36.240 Angel Vampire, because of the scratches, becomes the favorite, and I 62 00:04:36.279 --> 00:04:41.240 just was like, oh this, this is not feeling good. But I 63 00:04:41.319 --> 00:04:44.879 went through the research again. Angel of Vampire, you know, very fast 64 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:48.480 horse, great closer. But in watching the race, like Smoking was saying, 65 00:04:48.519 --> 00:04:51.680 it was different. I literally I was watching with a couple of buddies 66 00:04:51.680 --> 00:04:58.399 and families, and I literally blurted out on the on the home stretch where 67 00:04:58.439 --> 00:05:02.079 the heck is Angel of Vampire, And then all of a sudden, you 68 00:05:02.160 --> 00:05:06.000 know, Angel Vampire appears and unfortunately, I think if the race would have 69 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:10.000 gone fifty more yards, who would have had a different winner. But that's 70 00:05:10.000 --> 00:05:13.399 not what the race is all about. Point I'm trying to make is I 71 00:05:13.399 --> 00:05:17.240 think Angel of Empire, if they have the same jockey has now the experience 72 00:05:17.319 --> 00:05:21.560 Pimlico is going to be an eighth of a mile shorter. There's not that 73 00:05:21.680 --> 00:05:26.720 pressure for the jockey to determine when he's going to let the horse, you 74 00:05:26.759 --> 00:05:31.199 know, go and release at full speed to chase down everybody. And I 75 00:05:31.600 --> 00:05:34.920 like Angel of Empire already, even though the race is almost two weeks out. 76 00:05:36.759 --> 00:05:41.560 So that was my number one takeaway was that, Yeah, it was 77 00:05:41.680 --> 00:05:46.240 monumentally different to handicap, very difficult to handicap because all the scratches and unfortunate 78 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:51.120 desks that occurred during the week. That's sad enough, but um, you 79 00:05:51.160 --> 00:05:56.120 know, for the for the Preakness, I gotta think Angel of Empire is 80 00:05:56.120 --> 00:05:59.480 going to be very high on my list. Hey, John, I was 81 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:02.560 going to add, ask you too, what about the track conditions. How 82 00:06:02.639 --> 00:06:08.319 crucial is the track conditions whether it's going to be wet or are dry or 83 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:13.920 muddy. Sometimes that's also tough to predict, obviously if you're a pronosticator. 84 00:06:15.079 --> 00:06:18.000 Oh, it is absolutely an Angel of Vampire on a muddy track. I 85 00:06:18.040 --> 00:06:23.879 don't think I would have had Angel Vampire to win. And I was watching 86 00:06:23.879 --> 00:06:29.360 the weather because the weather forecast a week before the event was forecasting for you 87 00:06:29.399 --> 00:06:33.720 know, showers and possible thunderstorms, and it was a concern. It definitely 88 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:39.800 impacted my decision making going into it. But then as the as the week 89 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:43.079 war on and you saw that it was going to be cloudy, overcast, 90 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:48.879 possibility of a shower went down substantially. Then I became more bullish on the 91 00:06:48.920 --> 00:06:54.399 closers and the faster horses. I honestly, I would have loved to have 92 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:58.480 seen Forte an Angel of Vampire go head to head and just to see who 93 00:06:58.519 --> 00:07:02.040 would win, because I think if Forte would have been in you know, 94 00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:05.759 we will never know the answer to it, but I do think each horse 95 00:07:05.800 --> 00:07:11.360 would have benefited from each other had they known you know, okay, well 96 00:07:11.399 --> 00:07:14.399 I know that horse, all right. Well that's a good horse for me 97 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:16.959 to be following, and it would have been a totally different race. I 98 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:21.879 think Angel Vampire was just out there on an island and I was just listening 99 00:07:21.920 --> 00:07:26.040 to the commands of the jockey, and you know it didn't work out. 100 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:28.920 But a great win for Mage too, I mean it was, it was 101 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:32.480 fantastic. So take away. I mean this might be a little controversial, 102 00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:38.639 Scott. I hope it's okay to say I didn't mind not seeing Bob Bafford's 103 00:07:38.839 --> 00:07:42.279 face on TV for ninety percent of the time. Well, you know, 104 00:07:42.319 --> 00:07:44.639 it's funny how you just say that, John, I don't just about that. 105 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:49.560 Ask question baffort. So that's controversial. You found the GMT eight thing 106 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:53.519 great mind think of like So all right, so let's go ahead and let 107 00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:56.720 me follow up with what you just said, John. Okay, the Bob 108 00:07:56.759 --> 00:08:01.720 Badford the fact, okayna be about it, because obviously we know why he 109 00:08:01.839 --> 00:08:07.600 isn't there. But was it refreshing not to see Bob Badford there? Or 110 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:11.480 maybe you might have I don't know whether it's called leveling the playing field, 111 00:08:11.519 --> 00:08:16.680 but it certainly felt different. Yeah, I agree. I don't even know 112 00:08:16.720 --> 00:08:24.000 how to put that into words or even try to quantify that fact. You 113 00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:26.839 know, part of me thinks that there are horses that maybe we're trained a 114 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:31.480 year ago by him, that now are with a different trainer who may have 115 00:08:31.480 --> 00:08:35.720 been able to enter the race that way, where the owners actually leave that 116 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:41.480 trainer and go to somebody else, but somehow Badford still involved. I don't 117 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:45.919 really want to believe that that's true, because that really is even worse against 118 00:08:45.960 --> 00:08:50.919 the rules than why you suspended. But it's like so many other characters we've 119 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:56.320 had in all organized sports, especially at the professional level, there is polarizing 120 00:08:56.399 --> 00:09:01.399 people that we just don't like, you know, George Steinbrand or go rest 121 00:09:01.480 --> 00:09:05.120 the soul. You know, people either loved him or they absolutely, you 122 00:09:05.159 --> 00:09:09.279 know, abhorred him. There was no in between, like, oh, 123 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:13.080 yeah, George is a good guy. Yeah I like George, He's all 124 00:09:13.159 --> 00:09:15.759 right. It was either one or the other. It was either I love 125 00:09:15.840 --> 00:09:18.120 him, he's the greatest guy in the world, or he wasn't. So 126 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:22.799 I think Badford has, you know, become that type of character and in 127 00:09:22.919 --> 00:09:28.039 the big events of horse racing, and you know, you'll never be able 128 00:09:28.039 --> 00:09:31.720 to take away his credit from all the races he has won. All right, 129 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:35.879 he wasn't disqualified those races. And it kind of brings up, you 130 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:41.120 know, the steroid era in baseball. Yeah, they broke records because the 131 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:46.600 commissioner, in my opinion, Bud Selig, knew that steroids was running rampant 132 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:52.519 through baseball. And anybody who knows sports, I think would agree with me 133 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:56.159 that everybody knew what was happening. But we wanted to see it. We 134 00:09:56.279 --> 00:10:00.559 wanted to see those five hundred and fifty foot home run. We wanted to 135 00:10:00.600 --> 00:10:05.120 see the record broken. And I think Badford is kind of the same guy. 136 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:07.559 When you know, he had all those horses every year, he was 137 00:10:07.559 --> 00:10:11.960 the favorite every year coming into that Kentucky Derby, he'd beat. You know, 138 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:15.759 he'd have three horses in it, and one of them would probably be 139 00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:18.960 a top notch favorite. Yep, ye him there. But you know, 140 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:24.320 the mistakes made with the performance enhancing drugs cannot be denied. And he's serving 141 00:10:24.360 --> 00:10:28.080 as a sentence now. So that's my that's my takeaway with him. And 142 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:31.399 well, you know what, before I put Chris Peurtle out there, let's 143 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:37.360 get this comment of little Vogel and you know, what John read it. 144 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:41.960 I agree with what you said about Badford. Mister Ryan, see a lot 145 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:46.840 about Badford. Which which comment is he referring to? Probably a lot of 146 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:50.799 what you had to say. All right, Chris Peartle, you've been patiently 147 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:56.000 waiting in the wings. So would your thanks about to Kentucky Derby? Well, 148 00:10:56.039 --> 00:10:58.559 I must be honest, I didn't watch it. I was in Louisville, 149 00:10:58.639 --> 00:11:03.000 Kentucky, two weeks ago, so that's about as close as I've come 150 00:11:03.039 --> 00:11:07.200 to the action at Churchill Downs. I do have to ask this, John, 151 00:11:07.679 --> 00:11:11.519 was there anybody any horses anywhere? I should say that you saw it 152 00:11:11.600 --> 00:11:16.480 relatively around twenty five to fifty to one, that you liked going into the 153 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:20.399 race. I'll be honest, I did not. And that's what made the 154 00:11:20.440 --> 00:11:26.960 handicap me so hard. When I do these super effectives and even the EXACTA 155 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:31.519 kind of proud to say my next door neighbor actually hit the exacta on a 156 00:11:31.559 --> 00:11:37.480 twelve dollars ticket for nineteen hundred bucks. And you know what they the family 157 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:41.600 picked the horses by the name that they liked. He picked the favorite, 158 00:11:43.360 --> 00:11:46.600 and then who came in third, and then the other two were picked by 159 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:50.519 his wife and the young kids. Well, maybe that's the strategy I should 160 00:11:50.600 --> 00:11:52.600 use next year. Well, you know what, I gotta tell you guys, 161 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:58.039 a really really fun story when it comes to greyhounds, I really do. 162 00:11:58.200 --> 00:12:00.879 And then as soon as I do that, I'm gonna give of ourselves 163 00:12:00.879 --> 00:12:05.679 a little station identification first. Okay, but I remember going to a baseball 164 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:11.000 convention, not so much convention, but a seminar out in El Paso, 165 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:16.639 Texas. I go to War's dog tracing track, you know, across Wars 166 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:22.120 Mexico. I saw this dog called Bill Walton, and I decided, what 167 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:26.639 the heck, I don't only see if the dog Bill Walton would be better 168 00:12:26.679 --> 00:12:30.519 than the one that busted up later on? I beat at him and lost 169 00:12:30.559 --> 00:12:33.519 my boy. It certainly was worth the story that I could tell each of 170 00:12:33.559 --> 00:12:37.919 you guys. So the greyhound was as bad as the guy that was latter 171 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:39.600 part of his career all busted up? All right? What that said before 172 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:45.759 I proceeded further. The audio version of Fire Up can be heard on iHeartRadio, 173 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:48.960 Apple, Spotify, Google, wherever you get your podcasts. So there 174 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:52.960 you go. You can listen to it. If that's good enough. We're 175 00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:56.159 not good enough. 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The 185 00:13:33.960 --> 00:13:37.799 floor is wide open for anybody to say something about it. Well. I 186 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:41.320 read in the article I read about it that if you hit the trifect on 187 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:46.039 a dollar bet, it had been nine hundred and thirty two dollars. If 188 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:50.919 you added the super effect fourth place of disarm, it was fifteen thousand, 189 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:56.720 one hundred and thirty two dollars and ninety eight cents on a one dollar bet. 190 00:13:56.879 --> 00:14:01.799 That's why I played a super effectus. Hey, listen. The only 191 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:05.879 time I ever been on horse racing is when I was actually covering the Florida 192 00:14:05.919 --> 00:14:09.159 Derby. That was that here in Helendel, Florida. All right, well 193 00:14:09.159 --> 00:14:13.960 we'll go over to the Great Iron, shall we? So, John, 194 00:14:13.039 --> 00:14:16.399 let's talk about handicapping spring football. You know, you have a lot of 195 00:14:16.519 --> 00:14:20.960 unknown players in the United States Football League in the ESFL. Is there a 196 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:22.360 trick to do it? And how do you do it? Because everybody loves 197 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:26.399 to go ahead and bet on football, but now you have two leagues where 198 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:30.200 you know you have guys that are looking to get to the next level. 199 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:33.840 Well, I'll be a short and suite on this one, Scott, because 200 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:41.120 unlike my long talk about the Kentucky Derby, I really led it to the 201 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:45.519 you know, the scouts, they know what they're doing. Those are the 202 00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:50.159 players are going to get put on the NFL rosters. And then once they 203 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:52.840 are on the roster, then it becomes an attention getter. And then I 204 00:14:52.919 --> 00:14:58.519 go back and look at the history of that player. So too for me 205 00:14:58.600 --> 00:15:01.399 to spend time, you know, trying to analyze like which players may get 206 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:05.080 to the NFL or which ones should get there. I have found to be 207 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:11.759 a little bit of a time consuming effort and endeavor that I don't really like. 208 00:15:11.879 --> 00:15:13.960 I love watching the games, I love betting on the games, especially 209 00:15:15.039 --> 00:15:18.360 live in game betting. But to determine, like what the spring football means 210 00:15:20.519 --> 00:15:24.399 even at the college level, Scott, it's like, you know, watching 211 00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:28.519 Penn State football or watching the spring games of Georgia or the big programs. 212 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:33.279 I watch them. I'm very impressed. But what matters to me is who 213 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:39.440 the coach then puts on the varsity roster to start the season, and those 214 00:15:39.559 --> 00:15:43.440 names that are new names on those rosters. I will then go and research 215 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:46.240 their history at the high school level and whatever level they played at. So 216 00:15:46.840 --> 00:15:52.559 that's my take on that. All right, Jeremy, the spring football. 217 00:15:52.600 --> 00:15:56.360 You're talking about USFL and XFL and all of that, right, correct, 218 00:15:58.200 --> 00:16:02.919 Well, I do like what they're doing in the games because you can actually 219 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:07.159 watch the line change as the score changes, which is really cool. And 220 00:16:07.240 --> 00:16:11.679 also if it doesn't change, you over under you will watch that thing plummet. 221 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:15.159 Then the first time somebody scores a touchdown, it jumps back up by 222 00:16:15.240 --> 00:16:19.879 like ten points, so that it's really cool to see the live betting aspect 223 00:16:21.120 --> 00:16:23.919 while you're watching the games. But for the most part, I wouldn't bet 224 00:16:23.960 --> 00:16:30.200 on teams where I don't know half the rosters. Good point, it doesn't 225 00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:33.759 make a whole lot of sense. Okay, Chris Pearle must be off. 226 00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:37.919 I must have losses transmission, No problem, We'll do too well, you 227 00:16:38.000 --> 00:16:42.320 know, Scott. I'll take the next jab at it. And I agree 228 00:16:42.360 --> 00:16:45.799 with Jeremy. I don't know enough about the roster. I mean, look 229 00:16:45.799 --> 00:16:49.960 at the Michigan Panthers. They started two and oh a lot of optimism. 230 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:55.039 They get home those two first ones on the road, they get home in 231 00:16:55.080 --> 00:16:57.879 ford Field, their new home, they lay an egg, and now they 232 00:16:57.960 --> 00:17:03.080 laid another egg, lost to a team Memphis who was winless this year. 233 00:17:03.160 --> 00:17:07.599 Now I'm gonna go to my first game, guys, this Saturday, and 234 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:11.519 I'm expecting a better effort by those Panthers. I wasn't able to cover the 235 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:15.000 last two at home, but I am going to go this Saturday, May 236 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:18.039 thirteenth. That's a twelve to thirty start. By the way, folks, 237 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:22.640 and you people in Michigan go out there and support this team. Tickets are 238 00:17:22.759 --> 00:17:26.720 so cheap, and I know I want to go so bad. Ten bucks 239 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:30.640 only Jeremy even your boys can afford that, right, I can afford it. 240 00:17:30.759 --> 00:17:33.960 I got to head the day off work. I know, I know 241 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:36.799 you do. But anyways, I'm saying, and that's what I mean, 242 00:17:36.880 --> 00:17:40.039 John. It's so hard to predict because, like Jeremy says, you don't 243 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:42.799 know who's on the field one time to the next. But it's exciting because 244 00:17:42.839 --> 00:17:45.839 those guys are trying to earn jobs, and they're right, they're trying. 245 00:17:47.359 --> 00:17:49.759 They're trying to make scouts a look at them so they get a shot at 246 00:17:49.799 --> 00:17:56.160 an NFL training camp or an invite. I don't know what Mike Novak is 247 00:17:56.200 --> 00:18:00.839 that Mike Nolan is doing at quarter back, but from what I've seen these 248 00:18:00.960 --> 00:18:06.880 last two games, he should have left Carson Strong end. Yeah, yeah, 249 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:11.079 I kind of sense that. Yeah, because Josh Love looks good in 250 00:18:11.119 --> 00:18:15.759 the beginning, but once he comes back in after sitting and Carson Strong's in 251 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:19.440 a rhythm and looking good, they pull him and put Josh Love back in 252 00:18:19.519 --> 00:18:25.480 and he looks lost, like a babe in the woods throw out overthrowing guys 253 00:18:25.480 --> 00:18:30.079 by ten yards. Yeah that's bad. Yeah, that's not good. It 254 00:18:30.119 --> 00:18:33.200 makes me think of that one guy that always plays the goofy guys in the 255 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:37.559 movies with the cross eyes and doing stuff like this. That's what it reminds 256 00:18:37.559 --> 00:18:41.119 me of watching him throw the football in the second half. It's funny. 257 00:18:44.079 --> 00:18:47.599 Yeah, I mean the Panthers have looked awful the last two weeks, and 258 00:18:47.680 --> 00:18:49.920 the saddest part about it is they're actually playing in there on their own field. 259 00:18:51.039 --> 00:18:53.880 So yeah. And Will Vogel brought up a horse last week on our 260 00:18:53.960 --> 00:18:57.200 Kentucky Derby show. I wanted to give him an honorable mention. He did 261 00:18:57.319 --> 00:19:02.880 place tent so he was in the middle of the field. Will's got a 262 00:19:02.880 --> 00:19:04.799 comment too, Scott, I see about the USFL. Yeah, you know, 263 00:19:04.799 --> 00:19:07.119 I'm gonna put it up. Have you get to read it? Oh? 264 00:19:07.440 --> 00:19:12.720 Okay, I like seeing USFL games and leagues like that. Some of 265 00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:18.279 the players are former NFL players trying to get back to the NFL and some 266 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:22.799 of our guys trying to make an NFL roster. And he's absolutely right. 267 00:19:22.240 --> 00:19:26.480 Yeah, do you do you know some of the greats that started in the 268 00:19:26.599 --> 00:19:32.880 USFL the first time go around? Steve Young, Steve Young, Reggie White, 269 00:19:33.440 --> 00:19:38.279 yep. I mean there was some che Walker, Bobby Bobby Abe, 270 00:19:38.400 --> 00:19:45.000 remember, Scott and John her Rod smart. He hate me from the kicker. 271 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:48.960 Well, let me tell you're forgetting about Jim Kelly and Denny Carter. 272 00:19:51.279 --> 00:19:56.480 Mm hmmm yeah Jim Kelly, Virshall Walker right, yeah, Walker. Ye 273 00:19:57.640 --> 00:20:00.359 oh, here's a bunch of There's a ton of wide receivers too. Some 274 00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:03.640 of the names don't come to mind, but most of them ended up being 275 00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:10.039 special teamers or third and fourth wide receivers in the NFL. Anthony Carter. 276 00:20:10.480 --> 00:20:12.759 And there was one other one you mentioned that was the big ones that came 277 00:20:12.799 --> 00:20:17.240 in and made an impact because they were either a wide receiver two or a 278 00:20:17.319 --> 00:20:22.119 wide receiver one. Warren Rocket Ishmael. He went straight to the NFL, 279 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:25.799 I thought, and then just it was a bust. Yeah, it will 280 00:20:25.880 --> 00:20:30.839 put away. Warren Moon went from the Canadian Football League over to Houston Oilers. 281 00:20:30.200 --> 00:20:34.160 Yep, with you Cambels. Yeah, so now that's okay. Well, 282 00:20:34.200 --> 00:20:38.200 you know, I mean they're Canadian Football League before these other leagues actually 283 00:20:38.279 --> 00:20:41.640 went out there. Yeh. Canadian Football League has been around what half as 284 00:20:41.640 --> 00:20:45.519 long as the NFL. I believe over one hundred years, isn't it. 285 00:20:47.279 --> 00:20:49.039 I know the NFL has been around over one hundred years, so I think 286 00:20:49.079 --> 00:20:52.880 Canadian well, I think the Canadian Football League's played over a hundred years as 287 00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:56.640 well, if I remember right, So yep, no problem, Yeah, 288 00:20:56.640 --> 00:20:59.599 it doesn't matter. But you know what before you had the USFL, XFL 289 00:20:59.759 --> 00:21:02.920 what not. You know, guys are playing Canada and trying to do what 290 00:21:02.920 --> 00:21:06.519 they've got to do. So yeah, I mean the first thing with the 291 00:21:06.640 --> 00:21:11.000 USFL produced a lot of players mentioned, Steve Young, Jim Kelly, Doug 292 00:21:11.039 --> 00:21:15.880 Flutie, herschel Walker, just to name a few. And I had a 293 00:21:15.880 --> 00:21:19.039 good fortune of going out there and covering the league. So it was really 294 00:21:19.400 --> 00:21:22.079 pretty good. Or I'm glad it's back. I really really am. So 295 00:21:22.319 --> 00:21:26.480 yeah, I hope they actually do something. It looks like they got some 296 00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:32.039 good sponsorships. The CFL is sixty five years old. Okay, thank you, 297 00:21:32.119 --> 00:21:34.599 will okay, thank you? Well is it sixty five years old? 298 00:21:34.839 --> 00:21:37.720 Yeah, but they've had a Great Cup around over one hundred years, haven't 299 00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:42.440 they. Yeah, but the Great Cup was their college football championship before it 300 00:21:42.480 --> 00:21:47.640 became professional. I didn't know that. Well yeah, okay, well whatever, 301 00:21:48.119 --> 00:21:49.480 but all right, well thanks for the research. He's pretty good at 302 00:21:49.519 --> 00:21:56.240 research and stuff anyways. All right, so any closing thoughts on the USFL 303 00:21:56.319 --> 00:22:00.119 springing football in general, or we feel we've covered it. I hope it 304 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:02.799 makes it further than it did last time, because it was a lot of 305 00:22:02.799 --> 00:22:06.400 fun to watch. But we got to get fans out there. They want 306 00:22:06.440 --> 00:22:11.240 that Lower Bowl filled and then they'll get better sponsorships. So if that Lower 307 00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:15.680 Bowl doesn't fill for the home games, guess what next year, Detroit won't 308 00:22:15.720 --> 00:22:18.279 have home games for the Michigan Panthers. They're going to bounce it around for 309 00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:23.279 a little while until they get either stadiums of their own or they get a 310 00:22:23.319 --> 00:22:26.599 good deal from an NFL stadium. Yeah. The thing you should feel good 311 00:22:26.599 --> 00:22:33.720 about this USFL is Fox owns it, so Fox wants a programming And to 312 00:22:33.839 --> 00:22:37.720 me, that's a good situation that Fox owns the league and NBC's a partner 313 00:22:37.720 --> 00:22:41.680 in terms of actually sharing the broadcast. Mike Brera is doing all that so 314 00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:45.799 very good. All right, Well, we have two other sports I want 315 00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:48.680 to get to while we have an opportunity. Last night, what an incredible 316 00:22:48.839 --> 00:22:52.480 game. The two games we're going to talk about tonight will be overtime games. 317 00:22:52.839 --> 00:22:57.759 First, Florida Panthers had three or two in over the Toronto maple Leae 318 00:22:57.839 --> 00:23:04.160 three nothing to lead as and over time tell you what the Florida Panthers are 319 00:23:04.359 --> 00:23:10.880 proving that like anything else, if you ride a hot goaltender allah Sergey Robrosky, 320 00:23:11.079 --> 00:23:14.519 they're dangerous. If you don't believe that, the Boston Bruins will tell 321 00:23:14.519 --> 00:23:17.799 you. I don't believe that the Toronto maple Leaves are about to find out 322 00:23:17.880 --> 00:23:19.839 being down three or nothing. All right, John, you want to talk 323 00:23:19.880 --> 00:23:26.839 to NHL in NFL. There you go the NHL game. You know Panthers 324 00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:30.960 are the real deal. Certainly I wrote them three or four wins in the 325 00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:34.599 Boston Bruins game. My models came up with them, and I believe me, 326 00:23:34.759 --> 00:23:37.240 I looked at it and I was like, this can't be right. 327 00:23:38.119 --> 00:23:41.599 So sometimes you go back and check, you know, the math, and 328 00:23:41.680 --> 00:23:45.960 make sure that everything is entered right and that it is actually a recommendation to 329 00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:49.079 bet on a dog of two twenty in a playoff game against a team that 330 00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:56.319 set the all time record win percentage in the regular season. So that's where 331 00:23:56.359 --> 00:24:00.920 the numbers helped me overcome my subjective personality. Might you know, it's human 332 00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:06.000 nature to think, well, there's Florida Panthers have no chance against the Bruins. 333 00:24:06.519 --> 00:24:08.559 You kidded me, they're not gonna win, But that's kind of where 334 00:24:08.559 --> 00:24:15.359 I've learned over twenty eight years, where the opportunity may may lie. And 335 00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:18.279 I think, you know, I said it yesterday before Game three, I 336 00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:23.759 had actually a top rated play on the under and nothing better, guys than 337 00:24:23.839 --> 00:24:27.240 having a two, two overtime game with a total of six and a half. 338 00:24:29.079 --> 00:24:33.240 I mean, it really doesn't get any better than that. But that 339 00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:37.200 was a game that's set up where if Toronto was going to get back into 340 00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:42.519 the series, they really had a play defense, and they did. They 341 00:24:42.559 --> 00:24:47.640 actually did play quality defense. They played much better in the first two games, 342 00:24:48.079 --> 00:24:51.200 but it still didn't work out because Florida has that magic wand that you 343 00:24:51.240 --> 00:24:55.160 said, the goaltender and the goaltender, you know, the you know, 344 00:24:55.519 --> 00:25:00.000 like in baseball sometimes that baseball is a hitter looks like the size of up 345 00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:03.039 beach ball. Well, the puck right now to the Florida Gold Center, 346 00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:07.039 it looks like the size of a beach ball. He can save everything. 347 00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:14.000 And you know, confidence in any sport level, whether you're eighth grade basketball, 348 00:25:14.079 --> 00:25:17.200 or whether you're a senior in high school quarterback, or whether you're at 349 00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:21.839 the pro level and the top of the world in the in the sport that 350 00:25:21.880 --> 00:25:26.440 you're playing. Confidence is everything. You're seeing it in the Tampa Bay Rays. 351 00:25:27.079 --> 00:25:30.039 You saw it a little bit with the Pittsburgh Pirates. Maybe they bounce 352 00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:33.359 back, but these teams, they get on a roll, they get the 353 00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:38.319 chemistry, they like each other, and Florida has it. So you know, 354 00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:42.559 three zero now that series is pretty much done. Yeah, all right, 355 00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:47.559 well let's go ahead. Well Loogal says Leaves advanced the second round, 356 00:25:47.559 --> 00:25:51.599 says two thousand and four. Yeah, they are looking foolish and the Panthers 357 00:25:51.599 --> 00:25:55.720 are really underrated team this year, including a regular season. Well, part 358 00:25:55.720 --> 00:25:59.160 of that's the tribute to that the coaching change, Paul Marie's took over and 359 00:25:59.279 --> 00:26:03.680 the team oviously began to play better at the right time. And then we'll 360 00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:06.400 go to Will's other comment, and then I'll turn over to George. All 361 00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:10.079 right, well, let's let's take the other one off and then put the 362 00:26:10.279 --> 00:26:12.599 other one up, because this is one that I think we can all agree 363 00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:17.799 with. Okay, my my opinion, the NHL playoffs are the best professional 364 00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:22.079 sports. Well, that's an exclamation point. You're nailed at spot on. 365 00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:27.200 Yeah, well, I mean, I agree with everything that's been said so 366 00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:30.400 far. I told you guys a couple of weeks ago when I was on 367 00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:34.200 the show, when when Scott took a break and Candy filled in, and 368 00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:38.839 you know, I made that fabulous, absurd prediction that Florida was going to 369 00:26:38.920 --> 00:26:45.119 be the Eastern Conference representative in the Stanley Cup finals. You know, one 370 00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:47.839 thing you got to really think about here, And yeah, you can say 371 00:26:47.880 --> 00:26:52.480 they scraped their way in, but they competed to the very end to get 372 00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:57.160 their way in. So there's a lot to be said for a team like 373 00:26:57.240 --> 00:27:03.680 that, as opposed to Austin wearing this crown and winning and winning and winning 374 00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:07.880 and setting this record and that record and then setting everybody exactly now Toronto. 375 00:27:08.119 --> 00:27:12.279 They were competing too. Of course, they're competing different levels of competition. 376 00:27:12.279 --> 00:27:18.359 You're competing for home ice advantage, You're competing to win the number two slot 377 00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:21.720 or the number one slot. I mean, there's different levels of competition. 378 00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:25.440 But all I can do is give Florida a lot of credit. And Paul 379 00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:29.480 Maurice, and you know Scott, he has roots back to Detroit with some 380 00:27:29.559 --> 00:27:33.799 of his coaching way back when I always admired him as a head coach when 381 00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:37.759 he was involved with you know, the minor league team that was here in 382 00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:44.279 Detroit playing at Plymouth the Plymouth Arena. And you know, I tell you 383 00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:47.519 what, you know, the Florida It's it's like a magic It's like a 384 00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:51.480 magic carpet ride, like we're watching Aladdin. Here the Panthers, the way 385 00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:56.799 they're going. Well, last Wednesday's edition of The Sports Exchange at nine o'clock, 386 00:27:57.279 --> 00:28:00.640 I told you, guys, I felt this series to go four or 387 00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:03.839 five at the very most. And I really told you, yeah, yeployed 388 00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:07.960 four. I mean, let's face it, the Toronto may believes good year, 389 00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:11.759 you know, but if the Panthers are able to take out Boston in 390 00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:15.960 Toronto, you're thinking how many the two teams that they elimited point wise? 391 00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:21.000 Oh, they go unbelievable, And you're right. And in Toronto, my 392 00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:25.079 gosh, the fans have been waiting for this, I believe nineteen sixty seven 393 00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:29.720 since they won their last Stanley Cup. I mean, it's incredibly bad and 394 00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:33.440 they have some of the best fans them in Montreal, probably the two best 395 00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:37.440 fans fan bases ever. But all I'm saying is that Toronto, Brendan Shanahan 396 00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:44.039 President Shanahan. Uh, something's wrong here, buddy. He's not happy. 397 00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:48.640 He's not happy. Yeah, that's true. You're right, Jeremy, all 398 00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:52.480 right. So any closing thoughts on the NHL. I know, John, 399 00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:56.640 what do you think can the Panthers pulling up the futureist market for the Panthers 400 00:28:56.640 --> 00:29:02.880 and they're really still not getting the respect that they deserved their number two to 401 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:07.240 win it all at three seventy five. I can't even remember what they were 402 00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:11.000 when George made his call that they were going to be the Eastern Conference representative. 403 00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:17.160 But that's let's say it probably had to be probably fifteen hundred plus fifteen 404 00:29:17.240 --> 00:29:22.920 hundred at least. You know, the Hurricanes are plus four hundred. You 405 00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:26.519 know, they have their hands full of Golden Knights were smoked in their last 406 00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:32.200 game. I don't know why. They're actually ahead of the Edmonton No, 407 00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:34.519 not ahead of the Edmonton Oilers, but they got smoked. They should be 408 00:29:36.119 --> 00:29:38.480 lower than the Devils and lower than the Stars, or at least lower than 409 00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:42.359 the Stars in terms of pricing. So I think if all those teams of 410 00:29:44.119 --> 00:29:48.119 the Golden Knights are probably the most over valued, and you know, the 411 00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:52.000 Panthers, in my opinion, still at three seventy five, offer a good 412 00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:56.160 value bet. All right, So what I'm gonna do is the last question 413 00:29:56.200 --> 00:30:00.519 I have before we go onto our final topic tonight. And the last several 414 00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:07.920 years of Florida Panthers haven't been able to sniff a national telecast very much. 415 00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:11.119 I mean, let's face a reputation doesn't help many and you get the Red 416 00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:14.160 Wings even in rebuilding, being Original six, they get on more than the 417 00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:18.000 Panthers. I'll start off with Jeremy. Do you think the Florida Panthers will 418 00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:22.599 be on more national television next year? At Jeremy, it didn't work for 419 00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:26.640 him. The first time they want to a Stanley Cup, they went up 420 00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:30.599 by three games the Florida Panthers. I'm talking about, Yeah, the Florida 421 00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:34.240 Panthers. I'm talking about the Florida Panthers. They go to the Stanley Cup, 422 00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:40.559 not that win back around their inception, like their second year in the 423 00:30:40.599 --> 00:30:45.440 league. Right, and then the next year they only got three or four 424 00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:49.480 more national TV games. Right, it's not a market for national TV. 425 00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:53.799 I don't know what it is about the Florida place, but because of it 426 00:30:53.839 --> 00:31:00.279 being mostly Michiganders. You know what plays more in Florida than it was in 427 00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:04.519 Michigan, Detroit Red Wings. Oh yeah, and about that amazing? What 428 00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:10.400 about you, George? You think the Panthers are getting more. I think 429 00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:14.160 they'll get a couple more appearances next year, Scott, based upon what happened 430 00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:18.839 this year. But but you guys are right. I mean they love they 431 00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:25.039 love that Eastern New York Rangers, Washington Capitalist, Pittsburgh Penguins. You know, 432 00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:30.279 you know that Philadelphia in Detroit. I mean they love that same diet 433 00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:33.880 of games I'm saying, And you're right, Scott. They always liked the 434 00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:40.680 original six of Chicago at Detroit and course, But I mean there's a heavy 435 00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:45.880 diet always of that Eastern Seaboard influence. I call it the NHL on no 436 00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:49.480 matter what network, pick your network, ABC, NBC, Fox, whoever 437 00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:55.240 is carrying the games this particular time, ESPN, TNT, they always love 438 00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:59.079 those Eastern games. But you're right, Jeremy, they don't draw well when 439 00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:01.759 they have a Florida or at Tampa Bay as there as their main game. 440 00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:07.119 All right, John, I had to put it in betting terms, what 441 00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:13.079 do you think the odds are that the Florida Panthers get a national TV next 442 00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:15.599 year. We gotta see, there's here's the way we gotta do it, 443 00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:21.240 Jeremy George, and then we have to put John the betting man here to 444 00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:28.160 quantify what we're talout. I probably lighted at plus two fifty that they get 445 00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:32.359 more games on national TV, but my heart would want to say they deserve 446 00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:37.599 it. I was thinking about the Buffalo Bills after they lost four Super Bowls. 447 00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:42.440 They were kind of out of touch with national TV, and it's the 448 00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:46.200 markets that they're in. The Florida Panthers are not in the Northeast where the 449 00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:52.599 Flyers and the Rangers and the Islanders, and that's unfortunate. But eventually a 450 00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:55.240 team becomes as good as the Florida Panthers and they win that Stanley Cup, 451 00:32:57.000 --> 00:33:00.240 people are gonna, like hockey fans are gonna want to see them next year 452 00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:04.079 year more so than they did this year because they missed out. And that's 453 00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:07.720 kind of how I feel about the Buffalo Bills now, because you know they're 454 00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:12.799 primetime, you know, Sunday night eight o'clock football team, and I think 455 00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:16.119 that's where the Florida Panthers belong. If they win this Stanley Cup this year. 456 00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:20.279 Yeah, you just nailed it there, John. If they win this 457 00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:22.880 Stanley Cup, they're going to force the national TV networks. Do you think 458 00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:28.559 it's the finals right if? Yeah, well that too if they don't, 459 00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:30.839 Yeah, sorry, folks. The Red Wings are gonna do it, and 460 00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:36.240 also Ran if they're in that Stanley Cup matchup. I predict it will be 461 00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:38.559 two to four games. They get more next year in the national spotlight. 462 00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:43.920 If they win it, it could be as much as eight. Yeah. 463 00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:46.759 Well, I can tell you this much. I said as much. I 464 00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:53.400 didn't say it would be for my South Florida people, Craig Minervini and Jessica 465 00:33:53.480 --> 00:33:57.480 Blaylock. They'll have more time to do a lot of things. And God 466 00:33:57.559 --> 00:34:00.279 loved Jessica. She's an absolute sweetheart. Craig has been a good pal of 467 00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:05.799 mine. So all right, final topic of the night. NBA Philadelphia seventy 468 00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:09.800 six ers. The man wearing a hat is JR. Ryan Okay one sixteen 469 00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:15.320 fifteen Boston overtime, That series a deadlock, that two and two. All 470 00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:19.559 right, John, you wanted to talk basketball, give me your assessment on 471 00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:23.320 this one. I don't know what even wear to begin with it. Personally. 472 00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:28.119 You know, I always emphasize with my client's discipline, you bet the 473 00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:31.559 same amount every single game, whether it's a five unit or five percent or 474 00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:36.480 an eight percenter. I had an eight percent on the sixers, and I 475 00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:42.639 decided, even though it won, I decided foolishly to up it a little 476 00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:45.760 bit. You know, I kind of got a little bit full of myself 477 00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:50.519 with the numbers and thought, this is a really great opportunity. The reason 478 00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:54.079 was that one of the trends that Philly came into was that Boston made sixteen 479 00:34:54.280 --> 00:35:00.159 or more three pointers in each of the last two playoff games. Team that 480 00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:06.119 have done that and then been favored in the next game were one and ten 481 00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:10.960 straight up, one and ten against the spread. So I saw that and 482 00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:15.199 I just I, you know, I violated my discipline. I went a 483 00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:20.000 little bit overboard, well not overboard. I just added to it instead of 484 00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:24.280 betting in game. And of course I'm feeling proud as a peacock at my 485 00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:30.239 excellent intelligence to increase my bed during three quarters. So I decided that the 486 00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:35.800 game was over in my mind, and I left to run some errands. 487 00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:39.639 And my last errand was stopping by the restaurant to pick up food. I 488 00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:44.400 walk in and the place is going crazy, and then I look at the 489 00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:49.960 score and you know, it's those you know, hashtag WTF moments where you 490 00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:54.760 just like, am I really seeing this? Boston is winning well? Adding 491 00:35:54.760 --> 00:35:59.800 to it, I love the Patriots, I liked the Bruins. I hate 492 00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:05.840 Yeah, that's a strong word. I don't like the Celtics. I haven't 493 00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:12.280 liked the Celtics since Larry Bird played Julius Irving. I haven't liked the Celtics 494 00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:15.000 since Larry Bird probably played, to be honest, but that's my own opinion. 495 00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:20.239 He's a great player. He's in the Hall of Fame. But the 496 00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:22.119 one thing I hated most in this game when I was starting to get caught 497 00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:29.559 up on it, was the officiating has been just atrocious and it's been inconsistent 498 00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:32.519 on both sides. I'm not saying that the Sixers were robbed of a game 499 00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:37.039 potentially, or that the Celtics were robbed of the game potentially, but the 500 00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:43.960 one play that really stuck out in that fourth quarter was where Jason Tatum had 501 00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:50.079 the ball against Maxie and elbowed him in the chest like pretty hard. And 502 00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:53.760 Maxie isn't a big guy. But he goes flying backwards, no call. 503 00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:59.679 Tatum steps back, makes the three, and then looking at the ref, 504 00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:04.559 didn't I get the end one. That's part of NBA right now I don't 505 00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:07.679 like. And it seems to be running rampant across the board in all the 506 00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:10.440 games where these guys are either I mean, I don't want to say they're 507 00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:17.000 making it up, but it does appear just so inconsistent that it is affecting 508 00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:21.599 the quality to play on the on the floor. One other thing I would 509 00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:25.039 mention quickly is MB looked gassed in the fourth quarter. From the time that 510 00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:30.440 I left, I had a perspective of not watching it, and the first 511 00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:32.199 thing I saw was that he looked like he, you know, was done, 512 00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:37.960 like physically, just exhausted, and you know, he trusted his teammate. 513 00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:42.039 At the end. They're Harden to make that three. That's all that 514 00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:46.480 was. And normally MB would take Horford and Tatum and stuff that in the 515 00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:52.559 basketball through the through the net. But he was four feet from the basket 516 00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:55.599 and I'm wondering, like, why isn't he putting this up. He dishes 517 00:37:55.639 --> 00:38:00.360 it out to Harden on a contested shot. Harden makes it fortunate six Ers 518 00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:04.079 win. Now, granted I had plus two on the bed, and I 519 00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:08.920 added later because there was a ton of money coming in from smart money on 520 00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:12.599 the Sixers. It took the line down to pick him, and I thought, 521 00:38:12.639 --> 00:38:15.159 you know what, this this is a special situation. So that's where 522 00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:19.519 I added at pick him. But still when it went to overtime, I 523 00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:22.280 mean, my goodness, if you weren't, you know, on the eight 524 00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:27.920 years worried, then you're you're not. You're a you're not even an amateur 525 00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:30.360 better I guess, or a fan. Okay, So let me go over 526 00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:34.519 a couple of things that we'll well, we'll talk about hardness finally showing up 527 00:38:34.519 --> 00:38:37.079 in the playoffs, well better late than ever, and and B is playing 528 00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:40.239 like the MVP that he deserves this year. Yeah, but you know what, 529 00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:45.760 you're right about that. But like John said, his gas now well 530 00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:47.440 as a special request for you, John. So we're gonna put that up. 531 00:38:47.679 --> 00:38:52.360 We're gonna turn it over to George and then Jeremy. Okay, I 532 00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:58.079 talked too much. Oh no, you're fine. If you didn't talk too 533 00:38:58.119 --> 00:39:00.039 much, i'd worry. But I'm not. Okay, So here you're talking 534 00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:02.159 so much that this guy would like to know if you want to come on 535 00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:08.039 an initiation of basketballs because they don't we don't like today's NBA. So just 536 00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:10.679 so you know, it comes on Sunday night around seven thirty or so. 537 00:39:12.599 --> 00:39:16.920 If you're interested in coming on, we'll talk about it later or okay, 538 00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:22.960 Sunday nights. Are you know that's good? I mean that's that would work. 539 00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:24.840 Yeah? Okay, Well, John and I, well, we'll talk 540 00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:28.800 about it and then we'll get it set up from there. There you go. 541 00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:32.119 Well, you got your question answered, all right? So as one 542 00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:38.440 more than Scott if I may, Yeah, it drives me crazy when people, 543 00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:44.000 especially in the Philadelphia and New York markets, are abusing Hardened for not 544 00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:49.639 showing up in Games two and three. He has eleven games in his career 545 00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:54.679 in the playoffs of forty or more points the guys had. He's never not 546 00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:59.480 had a season where he wasn't in the playoffs. So to say that he's 547 00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:02.119 not showing up, I think if you look at the whole ball of wax 548 00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:07.559 of each series he's played, especially with Houston, he's more than showed up. 549 00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:13.119 And he still has shown even at his age now that he can still 550 00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:16.039 do it. And we'll just have to see you. Tuesday's gonna be very 551 00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:20.639 tough. That the trends in the angles, I'll tell you right now work 552 00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:24.840 in Boston's favor. But I think when you win a game by one point 553 00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:30.519 in overtime and now the pressure is all on Boston, Boston's the better team. 554 00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:34.599 The media and Boston's telling them you're the better team. How can this 555 00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:39.440 series be two two against the lowly seventy sixers as seventy sixers have a chance 556 00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:45.800 here to pull the upset and getting seven seven a half points right now is 557 00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:49.360 pretty attractive to me. And not because I'm wearing the hat or that I'm 558 00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:53.280 a home or anything like that. The number feels right to me to put 559 00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:58.440 some dough on the Sixers on tomorrow night's game. Okay, fair enough, 560 00:40:58.480 --> 00:41:04.000 all right, George, Oh you talk about dragged Oh my god, knock 561 00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:07.559 down, drag out affair. I'll tell you what. This series is incredible. 562 00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:12.440 And I do agree though with a lot of the people that are jumping 563 00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:15.440 on Harden's case, because you know, yes, he had a great Game 564 00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:20.039 one and a great Game four, Game two and three not so good. 565 00:41:21.639 --> 00:41:22.639 You brought up a good point, though, John, Okay, he's a 566 00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:25.920 crafty vetter, and he's been in the league a long time. He's got 567 00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:30.480 some age on that that frame has obviously he's been around quite a while, 568 00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:37.519 and you can't put everything on his shoulders on his on his frame. I 569 00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:40.159 will say this though, I mean, oh my god, could you imagine 570 00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:45.599 Beantown if Boston does go down losing the Ruins and then they lose the Celtics 571 00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:50.519 too, Holy kyl. I wouldn't want to be a fan there. I 572 00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:52.559 don't want to be a fan there anyways. But all that being said, 573 00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:57.039 it's just been one hell of a series. But I do agree with you. 574 00:41:57.119 --> 00:42:00.239 I think I think this next game is going to tell a big story. 575 00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:05.079 Because Boston does not come back and win this game and they will be 576 00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:08.480 favored, then it could be lights out for them. They gotta win. 577 00:42:08.840 --> 00:42:13.519 They have to win Game five. The Celtics, in my opinion, agreed. 578 00:42:14.199 --> 00:42:19.880 Okay, Jeremy. I am one of those ones that jumped on hardened 579 00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:23.639 because I've watched him in consistent playoff games. He'll have two or three good 580 00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:29.840 games and then fail to close out. In his history, he's had good 581 00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:32.559 games here, good games there, but it required the supporting cast to do 582 00:42:32.599 --> 00:42:37.239 what they have to do to close the games out to make it to a 583 00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:42.559 next round. And he hasn't done it pretty much since that year that they 584 00:42:42.559 --> 00:42:49.039 had that run in Oklahoma City when it was Westbrook, Hardened and Durant. 585 00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:54.239 So since then he hasn't In half the time, he's injured through the playoffs 586 00:42:54.280 --> 00:43:00.920 and they don't make it past that next round. So he playing as he 587 00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:06.599 needs. This is his best chance. But he has to play better than 588 00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:10.880 okay ball the rest of the series. If he does his average, and 589 00:43:10.920 --> 00:43:15.719 I'm not talking about the forty points. If he's putting up that twenty five 590 00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:20.960 to thirty points a game, six to eight assist and two to four defensive 591 00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:24.920 stats, along with the rest of the complimentary pieces with the seventy six ers, 592 00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:29.039 it'll be great. But he cannot do it consistently, is the only 593 00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:31.400 thing I have to say. All Right, well, I'll close it out 594 00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:36.480 this way. Number one, Doc Rivers, don't worry about losing your job. 595 00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:38.760 You're not gonna lose it, okay. Number two, I wouldn't be 596 00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:44.519 surprised to see a Harder return to Houston at some point. There's talk about 597 00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:46.559 it. I have a feeling that he may wind up there at some point. 598 00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:51.280 We all know that Philadelphia is a tough place to play, we really 599 00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:55.199 really do. But let's say, so reality, that's seventy six ers haven't 600 00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:59.960 won a title. George Hong has it been? I want to say nineteen 601 00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:07.159 eighty three? Four was at eighty three or eighty four three season? Eighty 602 00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:10.440 three season? Yep? R Jay was still playing right exactly. No, 603 00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:15.719 but no, there's nothing to laugh about. That's how starve these fans are. 604 00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:20.360 Oh I know, yeah, I would love it for Philly. Yeah, 605 00:44:20.440 --> 00:44:22.960 I think it'd be a great story. And you know what, I 606 00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:25.760 was actually happy that Joel Embiad won the MVP. This guy here, to 607 00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:30.239 me has overcome a lot injury wise, and think about it, he's a 608 00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:35.159 heck of a center. Joel Embiid is one of those kind of players that 609 00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:38.760 could play in any era of basketball. Well do you get that? Okay? 610 00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:44.639 I know you're probably still listening and maybe it'll trigger another comment out of 611 00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:49.000 here, But the reality of the situation is Joel Embiid could play in any 612 00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:52.599 era of basketball. So so you know, you know what was neat about 613 00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:55.639 this shows we were able to touch on a lot of different things. I 614 00:44:55.800 --> 00:45:00.559 like to mix it up a great deal anyways, and and to be able 615 00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:06.320 to talk about the Derby Spring Football and to any two overtime games both in 616 00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:10.679 the NHL and the NBA was a real nice fitting in to what I considered 617 00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:15.760 a pretty good sports weekend for sure. So you know, it's a great 618 00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:19.760 job at you four. I know Chris had a lot of major technical difficulties. 619 00:45:20.079 --> 00:45:23.159 Perhaps when the time comes that should he be invited back. Okay, 620 00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:27.719 we'll find out, but time will tell. At the moment, we just 621 00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:31.159 focus on doing the best we can to make sure that we give everybody what 622 00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:36.480 we need to do, and let's try to give you different perspectives and as 623 00:45:36.519 --> 00:45:38.159 a result, you know, we talk about the different sports. But what 624 00:45:38.239 --> 00:45:44.239 I have enjoyed this broadcast as I do with a great crew. So but 625 00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:47.159 that said, okay, Jeremy, let everybody know how they can get a 626 00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:52.400 hold of you. You can find me on the South Florida Tribune dot com 627 00:45:52.480 --> 00:45:55.480 underneath the MotorCity Tribune hitting with the list of authors like Scott Morgan Roth and 628 00:45:55.920 --> 00:46:01.639 George Iicorn. You can also find me on kneecap Biting was Smoking Jeremy b 629 00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:07.280 on Wen every other Wednesday, on Friday, every Friday, and every other 630 00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:10.840 Saturday. Now I'm doing another Lions Fans show with a couple other podcasters. 631 00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:15.679 Then you could find me whenever Scott needs me, whether it's Monday, Tuesday, 632 00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:21.559 Wednesday, or Thursday, right here on the South Florida Tribune YouTube channel. 633 00:46:21.960 --> 00:46:23.840 Well, don't worry, You'll be busy this week. Both Jeremy and 634 00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:28.039 George be really busy this week. I can care to you the heads, 635 00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:32.400 all right, that's okay, I know, break sure hard, okay, 636 00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:39.960 that's okay. And your laugh is nobody can ever duplicate that laugh. It's 637 00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:45.239 good, all right, John are let everybody know how they get hold of 638 00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:49.719 you, pretty simple, John Ryan Sports and the number one on Twitter. 639 00:46:50.039 --> 00:46:53.239 I started an Instagram with the same handle a couple of weeks ago. So 640 00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:59.679 both places provide a lot of situational angles and trends that are free and you 641 00:46:59.719 --> 00:47:01.199 can use them as you see fit. I try to give out the best 642 00:47:01.239 --> 00:47:07.159 to the best and hopefully make you more stupe better at least than making your 643 00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:12.320 decisions. Of course, you can get my plays just by direct messaging me 644 00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:16.639 and finding out how to do that, and the predicted playbook dot com is 645 00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:21.000 where I have myself and a bunch of other guys I've known for many many 646 00:47:21.079 --> 00:47:25.760 years that are pretty darn good professional cappers. We all go through losing streaks. 647 00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:30.519 No smoken mirrors here and no bs. You know we will have our 648 00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:36.039 n H streak, promise you over the course of a season, but over 649 00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:39.039 the longer term, I think you're gonna like how the results come out for 650 00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:44.760 you. And also I should add that as time goals on, John's only 651 00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:47.440 been on two times a month, but that narrative is going to change as 652 00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:52.079 especially as we get closer to football season. I knew that there are a 653 00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:57.280 lot of good events leading up to football season, so it would behoove me 654 00:47:57.360 --> 00:48:01.320 not to allow John an opportunity to break in with the network here until things 655 00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:06.199 really get more and more busy later on in the year. So John's one 656 00:48:06.199 --> 00:48:09.119 of those kind of guy where have I gontact them on Twitter and needed tomorrow 657 00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:15.840 forget about next week. John did the politically correct thing with time, and 658 00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:17.920 that was always had to do. Then A get a lot of guys on 659 00:48:17.960 --> 00:48:22.800 this crew are able to come on in short notice, which makes it even 660 00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:25.000 better. All right, George, you have the longest one, so oh 661 00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:30.039 yeah. And by the way, but before you do that, everybody as 662 00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:34.599 George a happy anniversary, and I was at his wedding another lifetime ago. 663 00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:37.159 Thank you, thank you, Scott, appreciate it all right. Try sports 664 00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:43.880 broadcasters on the air, yeay and Scott Morgan roff in another lifetime a long 665 00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:51.480 time ago with hair with I shouldn't talk Scott because I had hair. But 666 00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:55.639 don't worry. Mine grows fat faster than anybody, it sure does. But 667 00:48:57.039 --> 00:49:02.840 great stories, great traditions of Michigan sports broadcasting, including pictures with Ted Williams 668 00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:07.639 and Ernie Harwell and Hank Aaron and Muhammad Ali and Jimmy Connors are talking to 669 00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:14.000 Scott in his two interview photographs. It's a great story. I hope you 670 00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:17.599 can think about purchasing a copy and time for Father's Day as a gift. 671 00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:22.920 There's a link on the South Florida Tribune website which I write too, as 672 00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:27.039 Jeremy mentioned under Motor City Tribune, and I have a link right at the 673 00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:30.559 end of there, at the end of my column rather that you can order 674 00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:35.679 a copy of the book. You can reach me at giicorn att Yahoo dot 675 00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:38.679 com or George Ikorn on LinkedIn, and you can reach me on Twitter at 676 00:49:38.840 --> 00:49:43.800 SNG Sports ninety nine. You can find me on the Sports Exchange, on 677 00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:46.719 fire Up on one hundred eight Stitches, and once in a while I'm a 678 00:49:46.760 --> 00:49:51.519 guest on Basketball Bros. And once in a while on Pigskin. So I 679 00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:57.440 really appreciate being out here and being on all these great podcasts. George, 680 00:49:57.440 --> 00:50:00.159 come on, you've been around forever. Anyways. Here, all right, 681 00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:04.440 I'll go over my information. But if you're on Twitter, feel free to 682 00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:08.079 follow us at Tribute South Now. The audio version of fire Up can be 683 00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:14.639 heard on iHeartRadio, Apple, excuse me, Spotify, Google, wherever you 684 00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:20.119 get your podcast. So please hit the red subscribe button on YouTube South Florida 685 00:50:20.199 --> 00:50:28.039 Tribute, where you are striving for a thousand subscribers. Please also comment, 686 00:50:28.719 --> 00:50:31.719 like and share the broadcast. Okay, I'm trying to go slow, so 687 00:50:31.880 --> 00:50:35.599 we can excuse me of talking too fast. I want to be a gas 688 00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:40.119 no problem. Send topic ideas to sell Florida and Tribute at gmail dot com. 689 00:50:40.159 --> 00:50:44.559 If you want to advertise, called nine five, four three or four 690 00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:49.880 or four nine for one. We are live on Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, 691 00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:52.480 and YouTube. Also you want to find your way on this show, 692 00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:57.880 no problem. Contribute in the chat room and that's another ticketing here for you 693 00:50:57.920 --> 00:51:00.320 as well. So good show, great way to start off the week. 694 00:51:00.719 --> 00:51:06.400 And you can also check out our website www dot Soltworda Tribune dot com. 695 00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:09.480 And finally, kudos to Candy Ebling who does an unbelievable job putting the shows 696 00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:13.719 up as well as the numerous content that she puts up there as well. 697 00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:16.920 So you want to talk about an MVP behind the scenes, Kendy Ebling? 698 00:51:17.360 --> 00:51:23.159 Is it so i Bean? Half a Smoking Jeremy B John Ryan, George 699 00:51:23.159 --> 00:51:27.039 Einkorn. My name is Scott Morgan, Rontham, Motor City, Manmouth. 700 00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:30.119 Thank you for joining us on this edition of Fire Up and we will catch 701 00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:55.800 you the next time. Good evening everybody,