Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back and to the last Mad Max
retrospective form Mad Max Fear Road. I'm the clown Prince of Fury Trash Snell,
and I'm joined by I'm the Witness, Kirklatzer, blood Bag Taylor Field.
You'll hear those birds loud. They're going hardcore right now. Those birds
they're like right by a tree. I'm gonna get away. They just sounds
like they're slurping something though, oh yeah, oh one thing birth. No,
sounds like they got like the spray paint. They're like, witness man,
I'll give it a minute. It look like the flu way. If
not, I will let me know the private chat and I will close the
window. But yeah, we're here, uh to finish off Mad Max.
You can go back. We did a Road Warrior and the original Mad Max
and Thunderdome and here we are in preparation for Furiosa, a Mad Max story
right of tale. I always forgot it's called Saga stupid just called Firos so
we know she's from it. Well, I guess I don't know. Me
and Taylor saw a movie with a guy that didn't know what was for Mad
Max. So I guess you do need that. That that proved me completely
right, Chris k you haven't seen Civil War, right, so you haven't
listen to argon spoils or review. I imagine, well what a supporter.
But anyway, so, uh, I tell the story, you'll hear it
one day. But this guy was there's a whole thing I'm not gonna get
into. Go to Civil War non spoils to hear the unfortunate incident I had
with a bizarro version of Dylan's dad. But this guy, uh, he's
watching the trailer and he's like, oh, this looks like it's for Fierro.
So it looks like Mad Max. And his wife goes, oh,
well it is Mad Max. Oh no, it's not. And then you
know at the end we got the title cards. So that's where like,
that's where proved right where I'm going, why do you need these stuper titles
Because there's some fucking guy that goes, it looks like mad Max Furros is
in the in the movie the colors look exactly like Mad Max. But he
still doesn't know it's part of a Mad Max. Then what did he say
after the title card? Keep nothing nothing? So he just he did you
know he asked me for the liquorice before, but no, he just probably
took the and you know, his wife's like, I told you it was
a mad Max movie. He's like, you never fucking listened to me.
They just have like a full on argument right there. No sex for you
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just do two retros back to back where I didn't get to start with them.
So we're gonna throw a Kirkling pass or what was your experience with your
road when it came out. This movie is almost a decade now, is
nine years ago. So what was your experience with this when you saw it
and what do you feel years later as we get ready for Fear Oh Soft
movie the introduced her. Yeah, it's been almost a decade since the movie
came out, and it's been almost a year since I saw this movie the
first time. I watched this last June for the very first time, and
that was the very first experience I had with Mad Max. Like ever,
I hadn't seen the original ones before that. I don't think maybe I maybe
the first one. I can't quite remember, but I was a little bit
disappointed with my first viewing of this movie obviously, like the practical effects of
the cars and everything was just crazy, and all the chaotic nature, the
high octane action with some crazy heavy metal guitar shreds amongst everything was really impressive.
But I think the fact that this movie and all of the Mad Max
movies are just so zany and out there and wild and just absolutely crazy with
the this is just the goofy characters that they have, the detail of like
their outfits and just all the movie pieces is just so bizarro, which is
very fitting for what Mad Max is. But because I just didn't have much
like experience with that, I was just like a little bit turned off,
I think, with just how weird and kooky it was and just not really
knowing anything that was going on. I'm like, is this what all Mad
Max movies are? And you know, to an extent for sure, But
I think my expectations too were just really really high because I'd only heard fantastic
things about it, and uh yeah, I just didn't really care for it
too much. It was hard for me to follow the story with with with
who characters were and just the whole hierarchy of things. I don't know.
Maybe I wasn't fully invested in the viewing as well. I don't remember.
There's multiple factors as to why I just wasn't a great experience, But this
previous viewing of it was much much better. I had a lot of I
think, just more of an appreciation because you know, we've been powering through
this retro and its just this this story very much fits in the Mad Max
world. Now now that I know kind of what's in the Mad Max world,
I think they're just doubling down on like the action sequence it is just
such a pleasure to watch this movie. It's it's just it's so high octane
action and just so out there and I really really love all of the act
like the final half an hour, twenty minutes whatever it is, is just
it's just such a wild ride. You have so many moving pieces at play,
and it's it's just very very very well crafted movie. I think all
the the color grading or like visuals that they have in it, it's just
it's just like an art piece. It's just such a nice movie to watch.
It's you know, not probably not with families or anything, because it's
it's so wild and out there, but it's just, yeah, it's a
very aesthetically pleasing movie with just all the different color palettes and in play here
it's it's mostly a desert type area that they're in, but they still have
some very vibrant colors, whether it's the sky mixing in or certain individuals outfits
and whatnot. And yeah, no, I think this is a really really
really well crafted movie. And yeah, no, it's just it's it's very
fitting for the Mad Max world. It's interesting going through like the mel Gibson
ones, and here we have mister Thomas Hardy under Under the Mad Max Reign.
And I've heard it or I've seen him in many different movies, and
his voice just seems so different in this movie, and I feel like he's
trying to channel some Mel Gibson in his voice, like I can hear a
little bit of that Mad Max and some of the things that he says,
which I'm sure was a decision that's not how he normally talks. But I
I quite liked it. I don't know. I I like the effort of
changing up with the voice there. And I really love Furiosa in this one.
Nicholas Holt Is He's he's a fucking wild child in this one. I
really love him and really great villain with with big Joseph Morton in there,
and yeah, rest in peace to that actor. Is he passed now?
Yeah? He died in uh in a in a year that's not this here.
I think it was like twenty twenty or something like that. Just like
this a fact. I don't know, Kirk, Yeah he died today and
like, hold up his fucking head, google it, Google it. He's
definitely gone. Yeah, fundy over here December second, twenty twenty. There
you go, I'm gonna see a Netflix doc soon. What did Kirkland do?
You know? My god? Oh boy? Okay, so yeah,
shout out to uh Hugh key Burns, who also played to Cutter that Kirkland
forgot we talk about in the first episode, but he played to Cutter in
the original Mad Max. So lots of additions to the Mad Max universe.
So and I'm sure this this caution was not comfortable at all times. So
shout to him for the makeup and everything. Uh, mister Field. Yeah,
I have no recollection when I first saw this movie, but I remember
I remember talking about it when you drink. Yeah, I remember fucking plastered.
But I remember talking to you guys about this movie because this would have
been this. I mean, this was just before the podcast got started.
I remember it came out right before, right before. Yeah ye, and
you're like crazy about the game too. They came out with this movie as
well, because I remember our very first episode, just to meet every we
talked about ourselves and then it was like, what was your favorite thing in
the year so far? What was your least favorite. My least favorite was
Handibal getting canceled, and my favorite was this thing right here because it was
quite spicyses. But yeah, I don't think I saw it in theaters.
I would have saw it after the fact. Madison says that I watched it
with her here at one point. I don't fully remember that because I watched
Madison drunk when I watched this movie. Apparently. Uh, but I the
other day, you make a good with Larry and Berry your deck. You
get Larry and Berry. Yeah, you'd be great. That's not a bad
idea of a costume actually, But so I I'll be mad Max, gonna
be one of the wives. I'll be the mother with the boobs, the
milk mother, mother milkers. Yeah. So I knew when we got to
this one after this retel that I really, I really wanted to indulge in
just like as four k whatever as possible, because old ones, like they're
they're they're intense and they're practical effects, but the quality is like it's old
quality stuff, you know. And with this one, the way that they
emphasized the practicality and everything, I was like, Okay, Like, I
I don't know if all streaming like Netflix or Prime. I know you can
rent it on Prime, but I don't know if it's gonna like bump it
up or like be really really good quality because you always disc exactly. So
I was at Walmart the other day and we're looking around. We're like,
oh, we got Titan. I did to here for a couple of bucks.
We picked that up because we always wanted to own that one. And
then I was digging through the bin I found mad Maxim Blue. I was
like, okay, you know what, this is a sign. It's five
dollars. I'm gonna pick this up. This is this is the time,
and god, it's just a beautiful film. Holy shit, So this is
technically I guess my third time watching it, and it was just I think
it's fantastic. The thing that throws me off though, when I forgot was
I feel like the movie was on one point five speed, not two time
speed, but one point five speed, with the way like the vote must
Yeah, it just feels like it's accelerated throw most of the movie when they're
moving around, the vehicles are driving, and it actually throws me off in
a very I don't like it kind of way. It's it just doesn't it
doesn't work for me. But everything else that has those moments where it breaks
off from that one point five speed and it's normal one point zero speed.
I like everything else. The visuals are great and yet just man, I
just think there's so many action sequences that it just crazy how they pulled it
off. And overall, like I love the idea of them just like going
farther and farther away from the Citadel, and then it just comes back down
to like, Nope, we're going all the way back. And it's like
you think maybe for a movie to be backtracking like that, it'd be lame,
but not at all. It's fantastic. It just turns into absolute chaos
and it's just such a great time and I really really like it. It's
high octane. Yeah, the characters are just absolutely bonkers. I would I
just think scenarios that you just would not want to be in one of the
top ten for sure, maybe even top five. Is strapped as a blood
bag on the front of one of these fucking cars and going to do like
a raid or something, and you got cars with spike shells driving around and
shit like that. You can't move at all. That's the hornby Metal just
shredd in one. Yeah, it tastes completely right on that, so I
have nothing to add there. But yeah, this is what I talk about
before because it's it's so I have nothing about praises. People know my history
of this movie. I was not I was gone on the retro, not
a mad Max guy. Liked them enough, so when this movie's coming out,
I thought, okay, sure, like I'll get around to it.
I think I might also like them as well, grow with and say yeah,
okay, we'll watch some. But then The Prey, because I remember
started hitting like itself Byself West and all these festivals, and it was getting
that gargange and like, all right, this hype's here, what's gonna happen?
It was building up, and it's just the best way I can equate
it is there's nothing like when I saw The Lord of the Rings movies or
everything ever all once or done this last year, or The Dark Knight or
some other movies where when you're just sitting there watching, when you have that
just won't be like, man, this could be one of the greatest movies
ever made. And you don't get that to me when you rewatch old movies,
because like, sure there was the hype of that, but when it's
like The Godfather, you go in knowing everyone thinks like one of the greatest
movies all made. Before when you got the critics and the people, you
go, okay, this is people just like seeing a movie and excited,
right, But when you're sitting there, like, man, I wish I
thought they said they were re releasing this in theaters, and even though I
just watched this, now if they do you before Firos, I absolutely see
this because I will say it's great watching it. This is a movie that
like, it doesn't even compare like in the theaters. Man, it is
a whole fucking other beasts. The big screen, the sound design, the
sound mixing, everything, It's like that is a huge experience and it's just
phenomenal. But yeah, this is legitimately won the greatest movies ever made.
I really sometimes hate when we have to talk about movies like this where I
have like no cons or almost nothing, not nothing to add to, but
it's just like, yeah, this is great, Yeah, this is great,
This performance is great. This is great. Like every choice like I
have in the Trivia. The reason why it's so colored this way because Miller
said that, and I have more to the trivia when we get to but
he just didn't want this to look like every post apocalyptic movie where it's just
grimy and dull and dark. Like. He wanted these colors to be ramping
up. So it stood out. And just like all these things even in
trivia, like I didn't include them all, but go and read them,
like all these choices that you read, you're like, man, yes,
like this is just like great stuff and practicality. Of course there's cgi but
everything from the characters. And this is an example of this movie is you
know we you know mean curricular reviewed the movie not too far Ago that you
know, has lots of character, lots of things going on in is about
two hours. This is where somehow with Nicholas Holt's character Fiosa, the Wives,
Mad Max, You're juggling about six to seven characters. And even if
I'm invested into them a little bit, right like the Wise, they don't
give you much, but I'm invested in their journey enough that I care.
From this point of view, I've never subscribed to. I know some people
go, oh, it's a big car race, and I hate that they
go back and forth. This is coming from a guy that does not like
car movies, does not like a lot of action movie. Go to guy,
I want character work, And to me, there's not like this is
not a character study. It's not that it's characters put from A to B
and you learn about them, but you learn enough. And even this Mad
Max. Sure, it's like mel Gibson's Max, but this honestly feels more
like a reboot than it is a sequel in my opinion, Like and it's
fine, but it's funny because we're in Furiosa and then Miller plans to do
Mad Max the Wasteland, so like, to me, I really feel like
you're gonna have that OG trilogy and this trilogy like this, it feels like
just completely if it's like we talk about directors like leveling up or upping their
game, this is like literally George Miller becoming like a god in front of
our highs, like a film god. Like it's just I'll pull up this
trivia note now. And this is where after making our movie, I even
said to the family, like I couldn't even fucking imagine, but his wife,
she's out of this movie. Rightfully won an Oscar for this. Had
roughly four hundred and seventy hours of footage to edit. Watching it entirely took
three months. And when I was watching this from the little stuff we did
and remember like when we be on set and I'd be like, oh,
yeah, this is gonna happen here, and like this will make sense.
I couldn't even fucking imagine this, like and I'd love, of course to
do the challenge stuff like that. But that's why I both I have it.
Also in Trivia, both Hardy and throw On at many points question Miller
being like they both thought this was gonna be a shit movie because I could
only imagine on set like this stuff going on, and being like how is
this all gonna work? And the fact that this is but yeah, four
hundred and seventy hours watching this this time now just editing a small fifty minute
movie, I was like, this is giving me a fucking headache and a
good way of like how did they pull this off? Like this is just
craftsmanship from like the you know, the the non CGI stuff, the practical
stuff, to just the actual filming, like the post production like we sometimes
talk about like score and editing, but like this is the best example of
like man post production I think really makes or breaks this movie as well too,
because like the way it's edited everything, it's just like a feat It's
just it's so impressive where it's just like, I don't know how you could
replicate that. We'll have to see your ferio. So what it is,
and I'm not saying has to be that bar, it's fine, but this
is just something that is just shit editing that too or is it different?
I don't know. Let me take a look at you'll see if that's out
there because before so now it's gonna be a trivia thing where I don't have
much trivia at the end. But so she had never edited, uh what
is it a an action movie before? So when Miller it's his wife asked
her, they said when she was asked, she thought she if she could
take on product. She had never edited action movie and asked her that was
a bad thing. Miller replied, because if a guy did it, it
would look like every other action movie. So that's why I wanted to do
it. And then yeah, I paid off gone Academy Award for it.
But I don't know if it's listed who is doing that yet, but uh,
and yeah, they're just in the desert doing stuff and it's just uh,
it's crazy. It's an amazing movie. Uh it's edited. This one's
edited by two people, so her and someone else. So there you go.
So hopefully it's not even worse. It's like, remember, maybe that's
it too. Maybe she did the first one, was like, hey,
I fucking need yeah, I need someone else And granted one hundred percent she
were running wonder Oscar. She got what it's going on. So yeah,
it's one of those that's like, it's one of my favorite movies, one
of the best made. This is where it's like it's favor and best,
but when you're talking about best, like this is up there, and uh
yeah, an incredible movie. And I never don't feel not like in Thrall,
anytime watch I'm waiting for that, like like I always talk about the
Darknight stuff where Lord of the Rings and waiting for that one day where I
watch and the magic's not there, but just hasn't happened. I've not watched
the same amount as like The Dark Knight Lord of the Rings, but I've
definitely lost count because I feel like this gets watched at least kind of once
a year, if not once in a year and a half. I feel
like it's it's one that I know like the back of my hand. It
is like a simple movie, but it's just especially I feel like when I
got it on Blu Ray, I spammed it. I think I spammed it
quite a bit. So there we go. Let's let's start with the let's
start a furiosa. Actually, because you know she's getting her big movie and
everything, I will say, like I'm excited for Anto your Joy. I
will always be a little disappointed that charlie'son come back because I think she's just
fantastic in this role. Like when you look at actresses that are that top
of list of who plays the badass action hair on, it's like Charlie's is
to me like top three, and this is one where she's bad ass in
here. But she gets to deliver like a lot of heartfelt in it as
well, which she doesn't always get to do in some of the roles.
So again you don't learn much, but it's a character that has had a
tough background. We've heard is trying to get these girls out of a situation.
Do I not have a tough life like her? Yeah, she's hard
as nails and that's all I need. And it's great and I love the
we'll talk about Max of course, but I love the interactions that her Max
have where it starts as very very heated, but they slowly like earn this
respect to one another. I thank god there's not some fucking romance love angle
they ever putting it like. It's just like perfectly done all round and just
a cool design with the hair and the robotic arms. So fantastic character for
you. OsO. Yeah. I love the look too, of like the
black paint on like the top part of her of her face, which of
course Anya is gonna be rocking in the new film. But no, I
think, yeah, I think she's a character. Another thing that I just
appreciate a lot more on my second viewing versus the first viewing was just the
balance of her, Like she is a complete badass in this In this movie,
she's a fucking sniper assass and she's sniping that guy with one bullet left
super clutch, unlike Kurriklan pats are last night in Warzone. You know she
she a yeah, just tell you to do is snipe them? Uh.
If she was in that villain, she would have taken them out. But
we should get why have they not done mad Maxkins for cod Man, I'd
love a Furios and maybe the film IHO Fingers Crossed, I'd be great.
I'd love two bunch of Furios out there, Kirk and redeem himself of Furios
as a sniper, you know, and like even even having Joe in there
would be another like operator that I could totally see them do the vehicles too,
like Vible Skins, the guns like come on pass like they could and
we got Warhammer and we got Dune like they could do it, and Dune
didn't need to be there. It was weird, you know, I've never
seen what I saw, and that's it. Like no one, no one
bought that back, you know. But no. I think she's a great
balance of that badass like really capable of taking out any threat in front of
her, but also the like the subtle like just comfort that she brings,
especially and like what's the word I'm looking for, Like the the carry nature
of these these girls that are more than just things, you know, and
like like she is really protective and like a guardian to them, and drop
some nice, really heartfelt lines, especially especially by the end too. She
goes she's looking very very rough at the end, and she does go on
a very really intense journey and I'm excited to see the origins of that and
the new movie coming out, but no really really interesting character. I'm I'm
like you, I am looking forward to seeing Anya in the role because she's
just she's she can do anything. Anya, But I am, uh,
you know, I'm curious as to what that world would be if we got
this movie much sooner and Charlie's was able to reprise it because because she's fantastic,
yeah yeah, And they confirm that she's not going to be in Mad
Max Wasteland because as usual, it's always what Max being like going somewhere else
right and bump into other people. So it's it's it's like tough. I
wish there was a way because especially too, because they have her quite younger.
I wish there was a way to make it like a two hander to
have them both in there. But you know, Anya is great, but
it is however great Anya is. It is a tough act to fall because
I think Charlie's is pretty perfick has it But Taylor, would you echo those
sentiments? I would echo it. She's fantastic. I think that getting a
little bit of insight into her origins here where she came from. She's just
she's so so fricking cool, and you don't know initially what she's thinking,
and I think that's that makes the story a lot more interesting. And you
see the story unfold. You don't see her sneak anyone into the rake.
It's just a regular day. They're going to gas Town to basically refuel up.
And I love that. I think it's fantastic. And so when the
wives sneak out, you're like, okay, and like when they realize that
the wives are gone, and then obviously immorton Joe just sends the whole fucking
war party after them and they're launching the fireworks, and even her her guys
are like, what's going on? Should we go back? And she's like,
no change of plans and they're just going along with her. Why would
they question her? And shit just goes sideways from there. I just think
that it's it's really really awesome and just yeah, she's got her metal hand
that she's using around two in this movie. Uh yeah, she's just she's
a fucking bad ass. Shot. When they get past the the the narrow
caverns area the canyon. Yeah, and then you're dealing with just that biker,
those two biker dudes that are coming along, and she just whips the
sniper out and just pops them just with the ease. Like she's just really
really a fantastic character. I really really like her. And yet, like
you said, she gets that grease from the wheel and just like fucking paints
her forehead with just super badass. And her dynamic with with Hardy is really
really fun. She's trying to convince him just like we need to get on
this rig, and she's just trying to sweeten the deal and ultimately it's just
she'll get this fucking face chastity off of him or whatnot face chastity. Yeah,
speaking of it, those chastity belts those wives are wearing. Those were
brutal, but those will work. Fuck, they definitely work. No one's
going in there with those and everything. Just think of the one from Scary
movie one right, Yeah, those little zaps shot say an affairs man,
I caught goaded iconic pfoiance man. Let's talk about WHI before it because we
were around there. We lose one of them obviously. Uh, Fortunately it's
just hits, the tires and stuff. But uh, I like them all.
They got all their little moments. I actually really like when they meet
like the older people from like the Green Place or whatnot, and they kind
of all like strike a kingship with or a kinship with like individual ones.
You have that one that's kind of like a like kind of that make it
seem like could see the future a little bit whatnot, And it's like kind
of budding out with like the medicine person that might share some of those qualities
of like being a bit more about you know, your ore and stuff.
But like them all. In surprise the big line up you got Zoe Kravitz
got right? Who you got? I didn't know. I guess it's a
model that's like married to Jason Satan And I didn't know that's lady from Transformers.
I was gonna say that was the only Okay, so I didn't.
She's mat Patrick dem Yeah that's weird, but yeah, so yeah, I
like them all, and I think they're all used the right amount with interactions
with everybody. I love that they are damsels in distress, but then it's
like when they are the last line of defense, they're gonna fucking fight,
They're gonna throw a bullet in your eye, They're gonna like kick you.
I like that it's not always just because for the first of but you just
don't know Charlie's protecting them. But when they gotta get down there, especially
in the third act, they're kicking their asses off, and I love that
they're They make them like big clever too. The moment where morn Joe goes
to shoot Charlie's you got the one that is probably like goes out the door
and like blocks the bit. So it's like they're like fearless and very brave
that way. So I think just like little things they do throughout the movie
make you care about them, and they just don't come up again. It's
just like, Okay, we've got a bunch of pretty girls, and of
course you don't want to get hurt, but like they give them some edge
and something of like, hey, I could actually still like enjoy these characters
by themselves too. So I like the fact too that they they stand out
so much, like obviously they're very pretty individuals, but like they're all wearing
like these white garbs even when they meet the ladies in the desert later on
like they're they're like, oh, their skin's so smooth. This one still
has all their teeth like they like they just seem like these angels that that
like totally stand out amongst the flock. And I like that there is some
complexity there. I like that one of them is like it's it's not too
late, like the Morton joke, will forgive us, like we'll go back,
Like like she's very much like obviously they grew up in that environment,
so that's all they know. So like it's like almost like a Stockholm syndrome
type situation right where she's like feeling remorseful for for her captor, but uh
no, I use it as a trick later. I love that. I
love the moment you think, oh, yeah, she's going back, but
no, she's used that to help Furiosa. So it's great. Yeah.
So I think for being kind of like almost like the flag and then like
I capture of the Flag type situation, Uh, they had more personality to
them, and we're more complex than just being these damsels in distress like they
were. As you pointed out, I was like, they are intelligent,
like the fact that she realizes she's put in her own life at risk,
but she knows that Morton Joe like, in his mind, the most valuable
prize is that fetus that's in her. So yeah, yeah, it was
just interesting. I mean, I I echo what you what you said.
I think their development and becoming more confident capable characters is pretty cool. And
I like that when mad Max was basically trying to get the water and just
like drinking and stuff, and the girl they said the stage here, rhalls
man, he just puts that thing full blash, looking like me five year
olds at the water park. Damn. I like how the one the one
wife couldn't she was staging. Obviously she could have broke the chain with the
bolt cutters, but was like being slow and I fear it was. It
just fucking charges them and a great action sequence. I thought this was a
lot of fun. But again I thought, well, why are they just
kind of like sitting to the sides here. They could have actually helped a
lot more on that fight. But yeah, if you were to even touch
one of them, obviously one gets shot. That's not that's not good you
do for you basically you're in big hot water. But yeah, I think
that their their development, as you said, Travis, the bonds that they
form with the I think that whether like the the Vivillands or Vuvilans, whatever,
the old women were the little group I like that bag of seeds,
and they all kind of form their their purpose of what they needed to they
understood that they needed to do when they were going to go back to the
citadel. And yeah we lost. Did we lose just the one? I
thought we lost another one? No, it was just the one I thought
the one. Yeah, Okay, we lose a lot of the older ladies.
One gets hit by a truck, one gets a fucking chainsaw. Fucks.
Now, the one main one that was like jumped was on the bike
and that was with the lady. The other lady on the ground. She
was just like ducking on her vehicles holding her own I mean, I feel
like she could have survived that if she didn't just like permanently turn her back
to the the big ring that was coming down on her. And it was
weird. I thought they were at least going to give her a moment where
she did something that was kind of but she didn't. She just like took
a lot of shots at Joe on his like boltproof glass and did nothing in
the other guys. I guess the reason. There's probably more, but so
she was written in the script more but that she got pregnant in real life,
so that's why they Yeah, they took her out there, so that's
probably something to that. But I wish you like nicked somebody, you know,
like he'd like even the big guy. But that's that's okay. But
yeah, she uh not the best not the best idea to be kneeling in
the roads with a gun out, but you know, no, not ideal
at all. Yeah, and they lost a lot of them just to get
to the citadel. You know, they think of this like a new start,
but they lose. I think they lose more of them than they do
our crew. I think they kept it at least one I think still alive,
so the trade off wasn't worth it. No, But I guess maybe
Max they're gonna die anyways. But I don't really know what their plan was
in general. They were just like hanging out in the desert, so I
don't know where they were going. So, yeah, waiting for furiosa,
Wayne for Furiosa. Yeah, I wanted to talk about Joe next, because
you brought a point, and that's one thing I liked about More and Joe
where Okay, of course it's a cool design. He has like this lore
of like his body just riddled with like these pussy things and like cuts,
and they got this arm to protect them. I love his plastic whatever armor
has, like the metals like imprinted on them. And he's just looked at
as like this god, the controller of waters. But I do like that
is something as simple as of course it is more just like his bloodline.
He wants more kids, but that he won't hurt any of the women because
they are that vital to him and that important, right. I love that,
like he gets very upset when they find out it was a baby and
it would have been healthy and stuff. I love that it's not just like
property in the sense that he's mad for him. It's like his legacy and
the kingdom and everything like that, and it's just little things they give him.
But More and Joe very very cool, fun villain, great look,
great that the sound design, great build up to him. Uh, great
way to kill him. You know, I'm happy that you know they sait
this movie of the whole time of his mask, that's a way from to
go out. So just the ore around him, where all these war boys
in the city just look at him on such just large in life scale,
very very cool villain. You're gonna do the practically just evil villain. And
again I think they added like some all the very all the details they added
to him was just more versions of oh, this is why he's also still
evil. But that's the way you gotta do it, is if it's just
perial, well, you gotta make them memorable and cool. And they definitely
did this. And I definitely prefer this to toe Cutter, you know,
yeah, so I agree. So you know, we were talking about a
very forgettable villain from Rebel Moon that has zero gravitas, Like this is the
complete opposite. You can feel the fear and power that this individual exudes.
I love when Nicholas Holt's character just like glimpses at him and he like he
like peaks a little eye, gives a little side on He's like, oh
my god, he saw me, Like it like it's as if Jesus Christ
just like gave you their focus. And it's just it's such a Yeah,
it's just such like a raw emotion that he feels from from literally just getting
his gaze and I the scene too, but when he gives him his pistol
and just like, holy fuck, like I'm going to Valhalla, I'll be
taking to the gates myself his like pistol that like he gave it into it
like like personally right to him, drops it and just like mediocre, mediocre.
I forgot. I always forget, like how such a big meme that
was for like twenty fifteen to twenty something like that, that gift would pop
up a lot. But oh my god, it's such a like that's such
a great moment where in a movie that like there's like some comedic relief,
but it's not real. It's not like there's a comedic characters things to happen.
That's like a if you were to like teach a film class, like
how do you make a very intense important plot point when turn into a complete
joke and at work? That's it right there, this whole he's bond to
the big speech I'll take you to the gates myself. He gets it there,
just trips it, gets fucking caught off the mediocre and speeds away like
it's like a perfect scene. It's so damn good Hilarier's tale Like Morton Joe,
it's not like he like is dwelling on the fact that it didn't work
or like he lost his personal pistol. He's like mediocre just goes on like
that's that like you probably completely forgot about buddy, where for a nuts,
it's like that room is like that is his moment's pill under this and that's
where it works for like these people are brainwashed. I think this guy's so
important where he knows he's just a fucking guy that has power. You know.
That's why friends that go whatever, who cares with the halla mediocre moving
all like he just he just drives on looks and he's not even off the
vehicle. He gets back in the fucking vehicle like he may be still could
be killed there on and Fierro's all them. But because Joe just gave him
such a side I moved on that destroyed NUS's like spirit and he just gave
up and was a ball and just was like he But that's like the importance
of him, you know, no, one hundred percent. So I think
he's got such an iconic look. That's one image that like it took me
so long to see this movie the first time. I had said, I
saw it last year for the first time. But that image of a Morton
Joe, it's just like what a terrifying villain. I think a good mask
goes a long way. But uh, you know, couple that with like
his he's like very pale as well, almost like he's got like bleached skin,
kind of like the Joker, like with the long hair. Very memorable
villain from his look alone, very like powerful voice that they gave him,
so very very iconic villain. And I'm intrigued to see his usage in the
next film or I guess the prequel film fun Ethereo. So him clashing with
Chris Hemswart's character, Ye, but yeah, no, I think the whole
deity type role that they gave him, and like you feel it, like
you understand why the people kind of see him in there, especially when he
cranks the water valves. He's giving everyone water and then he just shuts them
off. And in a world like that, like whoever controls the flow of
water, they would be like a godlike character, right absolutely. I was.
I remember I was looking into a little bit about this character and he
was formerly a colonel, Colonel Joe More, but another colonel. I just
also sounds like a fake name to the movie. It was her named Joe
Moore, Like, okay, Joe Moore, Colonel Jill Moore, yeah,
the Army. Yeah, but I guess he he basically had started off as
like a motorcycle gang, and he eliminated other gang leaders and abducted their women,
kept rising the power and sounds like a toil Cutter type position. It.
Yeah, I think people have the theory that they're you know, one
or the other, because like that could be to Cutter's name, right,
Joe Moore maybe like there's a path there, so like but even then he
gets hit by that vehicle. You just explain, that's why it's all fucked
up because Max and the mess like he ran them over right, So m
hmm, well, I don't know. Like the lore is really interesting here.
Do you remember in the First Man, Max Roupe and Charlie, those
two officers they're in the first movie apparently, at least I think this is
from the comic they did. It's just an interesting story when they learned about
the whole aquifer stuff that was going on. I guess I think that's the
citadel the water area. Okay, he spotted Drew spotted the rogue officers.
Those two guys attacking a group of people. So they sent out a war
party to go and like, uh take them out, I guess something like
that. And they found that this is where they got the knowledge of basically
this massive underground water aquifer thing basically sitting on the lake of fresh water.
So it'd be I think that'd be cool if they brought in like these other
MFP officers into the into the fold here and how that dynamic would be with
Max or or something like that. They're all gone though now right, Like
I feel like it's a white they are. Yeah, they were got swallowed
up in Max. I feel like the only reason Max survived is because he
like suffered that tragedy very early, not early on, but into the up
post apocalyptic world forming, and it turned them into be like a monster or
whatnot, you know, So which that sound was gonna ask you guys,
So like at the beginning, and you can look at SRU there's a stuff
like all the music box is the same as this, Like we meet Max
right first of all, fucking just fantastic opening shot of like we have it
as our background, but he's just standing there. Nothing's moved, but like
the little like lizard with the two heads and he stomps it and he's like
just the opening, and that's where I like, I'll go against you,
Terry, Like I love the quick editing there when he moves quick and he's
like picking up stuff, like it just feels so frantic and everything. But
when they get him, he has multiple visions of just like people, how
they didn't save them. If this is supposed to be the same Mad Max,
do you guys get the drift that you know in the old movies,
He's I guess I feel like by the time thundered On, it seemed like
if there was an issue, he would help you out. But I feel
like he's almost regressed a little bit here where when he he sees the bra
like Charlie's there on all the brides, and he sees clearly that's a bad
situation, but his first instinct is the run. I almost got like this
impression that now he's almost reverted to instead of helping people, he's just he's
really on his own. He's just like he's he's leaving the situation. So
I felt like some of these people that were all you let me die,
weren't even referring to old movies. It's like in between now to survive.
He's really just chosen to take care of himself. And I was sure where
you guys thought that in the opening, And we get lots of flippy tricky
stuff all throughout the movie of Visions, and that kid comes back in the
third act unfortunately for Max, like shooting arrows at him and stuff. Yeah,
Like I see what you're saying there. I do see some ties,
especially just I think the certain qualities just decision making that like the mel Gibson
mad Max and this Max share in the sense of like when it came down
to it, they gave him a bike to go on his on his merry
way, but like he knew that the right thing to do was to go
help these people, like like the like that quality that's very reminiscent to the
mel Gibson thing. But even even in I don't think it was Thunderdome.
I think it was the Road Warrior one. Like there is moments when Max
is looking out for himself out of there. Yeah, yeah, like like
like he just wants what he wants and to get the fuck out of there,
but then it comes down to it the decision to stay and help people,
and he does make that decision, so that stays true with the character
and that that is a very similar quality. I guess you could make the
argument that like, well he's had all these different adventures that he's kind of
become more and more of the hero type, like why did it take so
long to kind of come come swing there? And because then it's like the
same story every time, right where he meets someone I don't want to help,
Okay, i'll help you know where Sunderderm, I felt like they're kind
of like edging to like he's not that guy anymore. But that's why I
don't know. It's like again there's some ties and not some ties. So
for myself, I feel like I almost see it as like like it is
a different Max, but but not really because he's because he is kind of
the same bones. Although maybe like a specific adventure is it isn't exactly what
happened, like like maybe Thunderdome didn't happen and then this was the next or
something like that, but like yeah, same sort of types of adventures.
It's it's kind of similar how like book series might have like a character like
in Indiana Jones type character where it's like, Okay, technically these movies might
be connected, but like does it really matter, because it's like like maybe
he's had similar adventures to get him to this point that the qualities are there
from from just the challenges that he's had on his path. But I don't
know, I'm not losing sleep on like well, it's like he has this
certain decision then that that means it's exactly tied from a thunderdome, Like I
don't think that's needed at all in these adventures last Night. He's a guy
that goes on these adventures and once it's done, he just he hits the
road and goes on to the next one. And I think that's it's an
interesting like quality to have in these mad Max films. It's it's the type
of thing that you can just kind of do like thirty films and and just
have him be the hero that just comes and goes and saves the day.
And yeah, I don't know it worked for me, but I see both
sides. Yeah, I think that I mean this being kind of like a
one off adventures is I mean, it fits with the whole theme, right,
So I don't really have any issues with that. And when I look
at this movie and this being the well, I saw the first one,
but that was a long long time ago, and that would have been before
before this one came out. But so when I saw that first one and
then I saw this one, I was thinking of, this one is going
to be a remake of that first one, and so but obviously it was
very confusing and I didn't understand this the connections here. But what really interest
says it doesn't have to be though, right like that that's true, it's
not so blainly. I think they're just never say that because I just want
to make because it's like what Crookland says, its just a character you're making
stories about, right Like maybe I don't know though I was gonna say,
maybe you can make this twenty years from now, but it's like, I
don't know. I'm sure somebody's gonna try and do Mad Max without George Miller.
I don't know what the rights are with this one. I know obviously
we talked about that he owns the rights to two and three. I doubt
he owns the rights to fury Row and Furiosa, but I'm sure some will
take a shot at it, you know. And I found the bond method
then of Okay, it's just this Max what he does. So I I
like the idea, and after doing this retro with you guys, I've definitely
prescribed to that this is just an anthology film continuing his story, and I
like that more than the remake idea. I think too that, like like
I was alluding to, that we've gotten all these different stories, being different
chapters of what he's up to. I enjoy that. I think it makes
it more fun of an anthology world and you can cover more grounds that way.
And I feel like while Mad Max is definitely center stage in these movies,
it's this movie, but it opens the door for Furiosa to kind of
be that tag team character and be a protagonist as well with Mad Max in
this film, which I really really like. I think that being able to
do these anthology films allows us to hit more locations. Again, this is
a new location we haven't seen before in the other films, and this one
really is just expanded upon just how they have their farmland, they go crops.
No one down below can get up top because they have these giant elevator
things that drop the stuff down below. It's just such a cool, cool
place not to live down below. You'd want to live up top, for
sure. But it does a good job at piggybacking off of what Miller had
tried to instill in these dystopian new settlements in the the other films, but
it expands and blows it up even more on a larger scale. Well,
two things. One I completely forgot. That's why it took so long a
that furio, so because I forgot George Miller, Sue's Warner Brothers accuses of
Warren Brothers reprehensible behavior, and Sue there for seven million. So anyway you
go, well they've made ferios. I'm sure they made some sort of del
on stuff like that. But and yeah, it's kind of what we talked
about on the retro. That's what I appreciate for me. And I wonder
how other than it being Mel Gibson or not mel Gibson, I guess everybody
when you grew up with the Mad Max movies. I wonder if it's like
it's like the Evil Dead ones were. They're all very different tones. But
that's what I love about this one is I feel like it's all them put
together. We talked about how, hey, eventually one starts to feel a
bit more post apocalyptic with the outfits or even just the the tribes and the
clans and whatnot, and then it's like, Okay, this feels a bit
more zany and stuff, and this is all that where Okay, there's sometimes
where there's action and drama and you know, THEEOS is about to die and
Matt Max is putting the blood bag and there's no like Calmedy there pure drama,
right, And I love this scene with oh Max, like my name
is Max and stuff, and I love tomr I. It's tough because like
I didn't grow up loving the mel Gibson one, so I know it's sacrilege
for me. Like I like Tom Hardy Moore than mel Gibson because it's just
like, oh, how can you say it's original? I just like how
weird Tom Hardy makes this version of Max. Like Max is always weird and
he's immune, he's quiet, but this Max really feels like he's missing a
few screws. You know and that that works to me too. If like
if you think this, who knows when this happens in the Journey, but
if this is that it happens after all those other movies, it's like I'd
feel like Max would be maybe getting a little more uh just kind of in
himself. And that's where he's even getting these visions now right that didn't happen
me for like he's one of the last people standing in the ways Land maybe
from that era, and he's a lot going on. But the little ticks
the things again, you know, we always it's a GV meme, but
the eye acting with Tom Hardy is great, just little movements he does and
he's a gun or he's trying to get the thing off or the little thumbs
up up like he just has like an or roundom and it's not like cool,
like he is cool times, but it's not cool. It's just a
certain it's the Hardy aura that you couldn't replicate, you know. It's like
a Nicolas Cage thing where it's like you can't like no people can do interpretations
or impressions, but you can't do Cage without Cage. And that's where now
that you can't do Tom Hardy because this is not Tom Hardy in real life,
but this version of Max it feels very like Tom Hardy coated and no
what like if you were to say, hey, do what Tom Hardy did
exactly, I don't think you could nail that. And I really liked that.
I love like the little hero's journeys on. I love that, you
know, like we talked about, he turns the bike around and he has
this pitch and it's very matter of facts, which would go, oh there,
you know, what do we do? We drive there? You know,
like it's very just to the point, subtle, not subtle, but
just to him. The way he uses his words. He's never yelling unless
he's you know, on the front of the vehicle and extreme pain and stuff.
But poor guy got a big tattoo as this movie whole recipe on his
back and everything, his blood all his blood, Like yeah, yeah,
but yeah, I really want I'd love to get I hope we do get
the other one, Wasteland, because that's what they said they're doing, so
I hope we get that. I'd love to see what he does with this
role now as a second time and also trusting George Miller because I have him
the Trivia, but this was a big thing where like he apologized to Miller
at cams because, like I said, he many times, I think the
rumors he went up to George Miller like questioned him as a director and was
like, I don't think like anything that's happening here is gonna like it sounds
like it was not a good set and even there on and Miller or Hardy
had lots of issues too, but Hardy good guy. He public form apologized
them both and said he was so wrong. Also said he just wasn't in
a good place in his career. They felt like he could handle that stuff.
But that's where I'd love to see it now, Okay, he trushed
Miller, and you've done this before. I'd love to see what does he
do a second go around? You know, So I hope it does happen
the Wasteland. I really got my fingers crossed that one. But yeah,
I love him this role. I think he likes perfect at what is needed,
so hundred percent. Anything specific, I guess we tell about the Wars
and Holts. I feel like this was the first time I saw Holt and
was like, because I saw him a beast. I saw a little bit
of Skins, but I didn't watch the show. I expect this was the
first time I was like, oh, he can like really act act,
you know, like there's those levels where it's like, oh, everyone can
act, and there's layers two and it's like people that are good actors.
But this was like, oh, he could be like a great actor.
Like the performances like this is what like this the menu what I think he's
gonna fucking kill his lex Luthor, Like these are the ones where it's like,
Okay, this is I think put him on the map, like got
people looking at him differently, and he's fantastic the amount of emotions he has
to go through in this movie. So I all high thumbs up everything I
pausibly say about Holt in this movie. Yeah, I think I put him
in a category of just kind of like the the well, well dressed,
kind of nerdy type like character actor that like beasts. You know, he's
kind of in that role when he's not in the blue the blue skin,
I guess, and even in the Menu, like he kind of has that
quality, but obviously he turns it up at moments that needs needs to happen,
but he's still this kind of like quirky character where he's here, he's
just he's fucking all over the place in this In this movie, he's so
extreme. His voice that he has is like raspy and just looks like he's
inhaled too much paint cans, whatever the fuck they're they're they're inhaling their Yeah,
But like his line delivery, but the way that he's just like calling
Tom Hardy bloodbeg throughout the entire movie. I I just I love this this
wild character that he is. And it was it was one that like I
didn't even know that he was in this movie the first time viewing it.
I think it was halfway through when I realized, like who it actually was
in in in that outfit, because he is just it's just such a different
role than I'd seen him perform in the past. But no, he's he's
fantastic. I I fucking love the lines or the moments when they're going through
like the the Sandstorm and he's just getting ready to go to Valhalla and he's
got his goggles on, takes the spray paint canny. He's like, witness
me, bloodbag. He's like I'm getting ready to go to Valhalla. Like
I just love all those moments, that tornado scene, fuck Man, sandstorm,
It's so cool, like the strikes of lightning, like turn the movie
to black and white for a seconds, like it's so fucking just a visual
smorgasborder. Oh my god, you know, so chaotic. No, I
love it. He's definitely a highlight of mine for this this overall movie.
He's he's just he's fantastic and he gets a little hero arc, you know
in this movie. That's why I was like, honestly, we'll probably do
it another time. That I was kind of, you know, hoping that
people, it's okay, patrons, I still love you. I was hoping
they're gonna vote twenty fifteen for Geek first Day Gold and Geeks, because I
would have loved to see put this one in here. You're force wakens.
But like he's like whenever we had to twenty fifteen, like easy, like
lock for supporting actor, you know, like there's no question in my mind
there and I've seen that you mentioned with the Bloodbey. I wanted to say
before Taylor goes for I forget. I love when they go through the storm
and It's what we talked about. It's Max with the wall and he has
the brides and he has like the gun and stuff. That fight scene between
him Theoriosa and uh Knucks, but Knucks is just there like support like Max
in kind of away because like he's not with Max, but he's like trying
to get the brides and just the way like stuff like Max like throw a
chain and use like his arm to close on Theiosa or they'll trip each other
with it. There's a moment where like the blood like he like knucks like
throws down the AMMO so Hardy can put the gun in then shoot it.
Like yeah, the core, like the choreography of course, the vehicles,
like I can't say enough, like that's all like a plus tire, but
just even that many fights scene, I was like, man, just this
is like it's so well thought out and it's so well placed, and I
love that dynamic of like the enema and the enemy of the enemy as a
friend because just a second ago there like Knucks and fucking Max like pushing each
other and fight and now it's like, well we got to stop her for
different reasons. But such a fun little moment there so it reminds me of
the dynamic between him and the uh, like the gyrocopter pilot that yes,
yeah, I think it was prisoner and then they kind of you know,
we're helping each other out and just another kind of kooky character. I like
this version a lot more. And his friend. His friend kept popping up
too, the one to call him a trader. I thought he's gone for
a while, but no, he's definitely dead now. But you know,
I was surprised how many times he came back. So yeah, absolutely,
witness me mediocre. Fuck, this is I'm gonna bring that one. We're
playing Warzone, watched the building, witness me. That would me last night
when I got hit by the precision. He's he was just very, very
very memorable. I don't think I've actually could really like think about what else
I saw him at this point. Obviously he's an X Men, but I
don't I don't know if I was like religiously going into those X Men's at
the time, but yeah, he uh, he's. He really stands out
in this role. It's such a crazy kind of character to play, and
I think those kind of characters I really enjoy seeing actors take on because you
just get to be full on balls to the walls. Absolutely not so,
and that's what he delivered. And I liked that he was just this diard
follower of Joe and he just turns into joining their crew, which is just
a weird thing. You don't think you're gonna get something like that. And
between like these three main characters, you get mad Max and you get Furiosa,
and you get what is his name, nus knucks yeah, knocks yeah,
And so he's just just a said and you're like nas name, Yeah,
he's just he doesn't disappoint. Just how many times you have to blow
that fucking spray paint on your mouth? I think he did it like three
times, and it's just that's gross. It's a very chap lips. Yeah,
very And then he's like on the front of the war rig like sucking
the gasoline and spitting into the just just gross. All the other guy who
the other guy is literally just pouring the gasoline is about to drink and then
pouring the gasoline in the engine of the car that was like parallel to him.
Oh, just just gross. Yeah, But again, like a nice
little like redemption story for that character, Like he's in the movie Law,
but he's not the main character. He's probably like the third or fourth most
important, but it feels like complete. He makes that sacrifice and he does
get someone to witness him, but someone that actually cares about him, and
it's yeah, it's just great, great stuff, you know, just simple
but effectively done. So mm hmm. Anything else specifically to talk about character
wise or for throw out some trivia. Sin I wanted to shout out was
when they kind of get stuck in the mud bog area and that's when the
whole visual is just blue. They have this like blue coat of paint over
the over the lens for this whole moment, and it just man like the
way that they're able to emphasize the immediate threat of like they have a whole
convoy behind them, like at all times like that, there's no real time
to to just chill. Even even when they're taking off the chastity belts and
they're kind of drinking some water, like you can still kind of see the
convoy, yes, like coming to our some and it's just it feels like
there is uh like a like a time, like like this is a timed
event, like they only have so much time before they are just fucked and
it's a constant threat coming for them, and in that moment especially, so
like although you do have the convoy get stuck as well, like you have
the wild dude with the I don't even know how to describe the vehicle they
have like a car with like tank wheels on it, like the tracks,
and this crazy guy with with the double machine gun leader farm right, yeah,
yeah, yeah, that guy. And then of course Furio so just
sniper assass and nails the searchlight makes him go blind but just so put the
flare up to my eyes. It is so I forgot when I first saw
him, Like that scene has them and he falls in like, oh my
god, right, like this is the guy, Like yeah, that's so
bad, but yeah, I love that that whole sequence just again like the
visuals of it, the steaks that's at play, the but that's where you
have Nicholas Holt like really helping them out too. He's got the winch on
the tree. Uh. But yeah, that's seems fantastic. And I also
want to shout out like the accountant type guy really gross, got like the
grossest candles I've ever seen in my life I remember, Yeah, but just
again, like they have these kookie characters throughout all these mad Max films,
and I don't know they like they find a way to not just make them
like a group of weirdos, like or I guess it is a group of
weirdos, but like they stand out because they are just so different from one
and over, like from one anover a Morton Joe is so different from yeah,
the pig the pig Man or the bullet farm. If it's like the
post apocalympic dystopian future, are you getting your nipples pierced with the chains and
stuff coming down? Is that your goal? It might be past the show
or something, right, we don't know their customs, right, so it
might be to be the leader or something live in the area where you clothe
yourself in bullets. That's that's yeah, at most like a prison tad.
I'm not in the full fucking chain on. The nipples get infected very easily,
absolutely, I think anything can get effected here. I think you have
sex. Like there's no one in this world that doesn't have STD or SCI
Like everyone's just riddled like crevice. Yeah man, Yeah, I did,
like constantly throughout the movie that they the other people were annoyed with Joe that
they had to be out here and just for they're like the wives just a
wipe, but for Joe was like the end of the world. But for
them like, oh my god, you know, like I can they all
die for it too, And so I just want to I just want to
touch up on that scene again because that funk. That's some of the funniest
things ever held. F face. It's in front of your eyes, like
the screams and the next scene is him just full full steam ahead with two
fucking guns. Just you just shoot it like Coba on the back of Yeah,
oh god, yeah I get and again just like fun little moments in
these movies where you don't have to like it go over the top with car
like being like, well we need a big funny scene here. It's just
stuff happening in the moment and it works out very well. So m anything
else rictus is that the same chat from Troy But whatever his name is,
I think he's like an old wrestler or us. Oh Nathan Jones, Yeah
that guy. Yeah, yeah, he's like he was just in Ricky Siniki
recently. Yeah, he's a guy that they had big hopes for. He
was gonna versit the Undertaker WrestleMania, and then they realized he wasn't good at
wrestling, so they put him in a tag team an Undertaker, but then
he was still that bad that he got injured before the match. An Undertaker
just wrestled a team by himself, like he was. Yeah, he's somebody
that I'm happy. He gets a lot of big guy roles though. He
is always popping up and stuff. So good, good old Fred Jones.
Yeah, he always think. Yeah, he was like in like a prison
or something for like eight years or something too. He's like, he's got
an interesting story. I think, unless I could be made up wrestling stuff.
I don't know. But he was a bad wrestler that that was true.
He didn't make it so bad they put him in prison for a years.
No, it was before they used to be like, he's spent eight
in prison. He's like, what the fuck is that? Uh Gary oldman
from uh let me out? I did my waiting ey two hours of it.
Yeah, eight years. Yeah, I talked about the four hundred seventy
hours. Just impressive work on the fucking editing. Uh. That lady man.
His wife is just that's that's a feat that should be like a lifetime
achievement. War never just the oscar, but it's gonna be in a Guinness
Records book. I imagine maybe over eighty percent of the effects seen in the
film are practical, including stunts. Make him said, CGI was used sparingly,
mainly to enhance the landscape, to remove stunt rigging, and for furial
He's left arm was yeah, thanks, but it don't makes sense that see
Charlie's what are you gonna do? George? Oh no, wonder if she
was questioned him, I got first sick. Oh, we don't need this
should be practical, all right, we'll cut your arm off. When they're
driving through the canyon, you got the motocross guys going over top, doing
jumps, throwing homes down below, and like the cars come in and they
got the guys on like the six like just like Benking, I can't imagine
why I'm Tom Hardy or Charlie's you wake up? You see these guys do
You're like, what the what the this looks cool? Like what the fuck
is this movie gonna be? You know, like this is madness? And
yeah, most that's practical, so uh, let's see. Regarding the look
of the film, director George Millery talk about this earlier, laid down two
sipilations. Firstly, cineatography must be as colorful as possible in order to differentiate
itself from other post apocalyptic films, which typically have a bleak, desaturated colors.
During pre production, the initial concept was for a black and white film.
However, producers strongly were against that as they believed it would the tor
audiences. But Miller got to do his version, which I own it.
There's a black and chrome edition on Blue Race, so you can watch the
awesome. It might be on your I'm not sure if it's on your thing,
you should check special features. So I got mine as like the first
came out, so was on there. But secondly, secondarily, the art
direction would be as beautiful as possible. Miller a reason with people living in
the post apocalympic world would try and find whatever scraps of beauty they could find
in a meager environment. So that's like why certain characters wearing this or that
or medallions. It's well, he didn't want you to make well all looks
like shit. Now it's like No, they would pride themselves and look at
this cool thing I found. So that's why, you know, nipples and
all that jazz. So, according to Tom Hardy, he had lunch with
mel Gibson disgusting little role, and gave him his blessing. Mel Gibson just
said, I'm too old to effectively pay Max. I don't know if they've
both ever going to breathe. I think that was just kind of it where
it's like, yeah, the scene's just kind of gone and everything like that.
So do you ever think an actor would like not give blessing Like if
Ell Gibson said that, I was like, you know what, I don't
give you my blessing. You need to drop out of this movie. I
mean, it's definitely happened. I it's for sure has happened, and you
just go, oh, I'm getting the paycheck now, and I bet it's
probably happened like even publicly too. So Yeah, night scenes were filmed in
bright daylight. I deliberately overexposed and color manipulated, and many shots of the
sky was digitally replaced with more detailed than interesting skies. And yeah, you
can see that it usually doesn't work, eh, Like weren't we complained about
that? And Game of Thrones and yeah, House with Dragons, Sorry,
yeah, because usually what they do is they do like the they change it,
but then they like bring the brightness down and make it look like nighttime.
But it's just like this is the better look of Like shit, who's
the quote from? I can't remember what movie I'm blanking on it, but
there's like a famous quote. I don't know if it's Lower the Rings or
where it was, but the quote is these people are filming a nighttime scene
and the actor looks at the directory and it says, well, it's nighttime,
and the guy director goes yeat and it's like, where are these lights
coming from? And the director goes same place where the music's coming from.
And that's like the same way I have it. It's like, yeah,
it looks all blue and nighttime. It never looks like that, but it's
a fucking movie, Like I'm I would much prefer a stylized blue nighttime look
to this versus Game of Thrones, like the Battle whatever that one, and
like House String where it's like what the fuck's going on? So that's why
even though our films like yeah, like even in adrenalchrone. There's stuff that
I was like, there's this whole section where Taylor mass and scenes that is
like daytime, but we gave it like a blue tint to like make it
look like it was starting to turn, like all the sun's going down and
stuff like that. We will always do that, geek for it's like,
I'm not fucking making those scenes where it's like, what the fuck's going on?
Like, uh, let's it's delivered right if it's something like you're trying
to mask something but not like here's a twenty minute sequence of a fight and
you can't see shit. So again like, yeah, of course you can
tell it's daytime. But to me, as me and Emily Tumblas, it
also works off like it's a weird weatherwork like look at the tornado, like
when it struck lightning as like black and white. Like to me, it's
like heightened world where maybe the night does look like this because all the fumes
just fucked up the ozone and everything. This is the nighttime. It's just
this harsh blue out you know. So yeah, and finally, this was
a funny one at the end of the movie when nuts you know, sacrifice
himself. Uh, this was done practical, it's not CGI. The scene
was by Master Sun driver Lee Adamson behind the wheel as the war rig was
hydraulically launched onto its side at full speed. Although the production team planned for
multiple takes of it if it failed, the stunt team filmed this fall asley
and on the first take, winning was watched in the footage. Miller was
initially alarmed while watching the footage, having seen the dummy representing Knucks being partially
crushed when the vehicle landing, mistaking it for the driver Lee Adamson, who
was in a protective cage on the other side, after filling to myyes,
oh yeah, they just said they added some CGI for debris and stuff.
But could you imagine you're like Masters shunt driver. Here we go. You're
on screen and you you think you're watching him die right in front, keep
rolling. You're just like especially too, like we tell all this, like
all these other films. They've had such dumb luck, all these things,
not many big injuries, stuff like they've prepared for things like no one's really
died. But this time finally you're back twenty years later a bad box film
and the fucking Master stunt and you're seeing him crushed by the war would still
come out. Yeah, of course it does tends all the time, right,
like Deadpool too that the person like that did a do almost Sun like
died from a bike accident. Like all the time, some people died.
Oh, I thought there was that that Rust movie where the person going killed
on set. Ye, and they still want to release that movie. That
was really that was a movie where they accidentally put a real bowl into a
stunt gun, which is still always like very interesting. But yeah, yeah,
no, and force Field die all the time, and Sun guys and
gal should get one way more money, way more protection. And then what
they're trying to go for is, yeah, there should be a fucking oscar
stunt category because they do some of the most hardest work. So good thing
for George Miller's sleep that he did not just witness this guy just get crushed
in front of him, witness me No, was that real paint? He's
full in character? Ker Patser. Fun thoughts and what would you get this
movie? Final thoughts? Yeah, I think this is one that's I I
think, especially just judging from my first view to my second view, I
think this is gonna be one that I enjoy more and more with each viewing.
They'll probably just be little details here and there that I just notice more
on each viewing, Like even just you going off some trivia thing. Thinking
about those moments while watching it, I think definitely boosts the overall enjoyment.
And yeah, this is this is just such a well crafted film. I
think it's just such a nice It's good eye pleasure as well as ear pleasure.
It's got a fantastic score as well as visuals, and yeah, it's
it's just really really fun time. Like it's not like you need a lot
of like supplemental material before going into this. It's not like it's like if
you if I'm gonna watch like Don of the Planet of the Apes, I
don't need to watch Rise beforehand. Like I can just jump into this.
And I think that's what makes it very special, is like it can be
an anthology. You can make the argument maybe it's not an anthology film,
but it doesn't really matter. It's just such a great film on its own.
Very excited for for for Furiosa. Now going through this whole retro it's
been lots of fun, but for this one, I'll I'm gonna give it
a ten ten. I think it's just fucking top tier filmmaking. And yeah,
it's been fun, mister Field. Yeah, you know, today's just
been a ten out of ten kind of day because I'm giving it just that.
It's this is just great. I loved it. I don't have any
cons with it. I feel like you get a good degree of everything and
it's just yeah, it's just fuck. It's a thrill ride. It's a
high octane, high and nitrous thrill ride. And I'm easily gonna re watch
this again in the future. I got super pumped now just watching this and
just the anticipation for Furiosa. I cannot wait to get into that movie.
This whole retro that we've done, just get being able to get immersed into
the storyline, know the stakes, and just know the world now that we're
kind of exploring here just to get this anthology film is gonna be gonna be
great. So I I'm just just over the moon. Fuck, this is
gonna be good. Yeah, No, I'm very excited. The last tray
looked very good. Tress Miller. I hope we get Furiosa in the Wasteland
and Uh, yeah, no, Tenant, that's an easy one for me.
I already blew it enough at the beginning. It's like I can't can't
say enough good things about it. It's a cliche of just like every good
descriptor I could say about a piece of project, put it on this one.
You know, there's not enough good things to say. So yeah,
very fun retro. I'm glad we did a very different type of retro because
there's some older movies and some very like I feel like most independent movies we've
reviewed are all current day age stuff, so I feel like i'd have to
look at our past nine years. But I don't know if there's like an
independent movie we reviewed that wasn't in the current day, like I think it's
Mad Max, right, So I don't know. Maybe I guess a couple
of Tarantinos, right, Tarantino's to their early work, so we have a
couple offshoots. But it was fun. So thank everyone for listening. We'll
be back with Furiosa and then we'll do a rankings episode and then that'll be
it until hopefully Wastelands. So thank you very much for tuning in, and
when we're here, form us next to Wastelam, and I'll be boring.