And ah rip the normals. Nothing is purn there's no eckers show because we
set them more on fire. I figured i'd let you know you could find
me any after glow you like doing. You just come and then go,
But sometimes you stop to say hello, make moments that stay in your soul,
a voice that goes and I swear I think it's you singing in the
meadow. I always knew that you'd come through for me. I don't have
the key. I did this guarantee if you're living, to just plant a
tree, discarding shortly know where use running from that mean you're feeling lately,
it doesn't matter at all. You can't say nothing with you. Just leave
it all on the floor, spend all your time on the trip for truth
for life. Now want you say how did you find out the truth?
Where I have to say I don't have to saying, And now want you
say how did you and find out the truth? When I don't have to
say, I don't have to say anything. Sometimes we don't get to say
goodbye. Words are mostly meaningly. Just enjoy the right. I don't have
the key. Our death is guarantee. If you're living, to breathe just
plant a tree, discharling sharp. No use in running from that pain you're
feeling lately. It doesn't matter at all. You can't take nothing with you.
Just leave it all on the floor. Spend all your time with trip
on True life. Wants you find out the true? Don't have to say
I say, did you say? Did you find out the truth? I
don't have to say. I don't have to say in anything, I don't
have to say. I don't have to say and anything I don't have to
say. I don't ever say anything. I don't have to say it.
Don't ever say anything. You're listening to w M and H. Come in,
God, don't get so fly maself, Good morning everyone, Welcome,
here we go. It is that time again, Matt Connorton Unleashed and we
are live from the studios of wm NH ninety five point three FM and Glorious
Downtown Manchester, New Hampshire, a little chilly out but glorious nonetheless, also
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online listeners across the nation and around the globe. You can go to my
website Matt Connorton dot com for all of your live streaming options, social media
links, contact and Fox Show archives, etc. Et cetera. Today is
Saturday, December nine, twenty twenty three, and I am not alone Jenny.
Jenny is here at the news desk. I am present and accounted for,
Welcome, and today I am wearing grim Rock. Ah. Yes for
those watching online, Yes, yes, yep. He's from Pennsylvania, one
of the many amazing musicians we've had on the show. I really like him
a lot and he's a lot oh by the way, So we played that
opening song Don't Have a Say in Anything. That is Kenny Truon. I
hope I'm saying his last name correctly. It's t r u h And it
looks like Truon. We'll find out for sure when he's here. But he's
going to be coming up in the third hour today at eleven am, and
he's coming in to play live for us, and we have some studio tracks
and I love that song. It was an easy decision in terms of what
song I was going to open the show with today because that's a great track,
Don't Have a Say in Anything. I like that a lot. He
sent me a few other songs too, one of them a live performance that
he sent. But so we'll play all of those today and really looking forward
to meeting him. In the third hour. We also we had another guest
scheduled, but he had to reschedule, our friend Ray Coats from across the
Pond. He was going to skype in but apparently he has the flu,
and so he's gonna it was the next week he's joining us. I know,
I know further twenty third, I know. The next couple of Saturdays,
we have really stacked shows, which, yeah, which is fantastic,
but yeah, So today we'll have Kenny Truonan in the third hour. Also
coming up in the at some point in the second hour, we will have
Eric Pilcher's a classic film review, our friend Eric Pilcher. He does a
great job, very popular segment on the show, and I'm especially excited to
share with everyone this week's classic film review from nineteen ninety three, A Bronx
Tale, which of course starring and directed by Robert de Niro and Chas Paulmonary
isn't it and one of my favorites? Probably I've never stopped to think about
it in terms of making a list. If I were to make a list,
though, of my top ten favorite films of all time. Pretty sure.
I don't know where on the list it would be, but I'm pretty
sure a Bronxstale would be on it. That's a have you seen that?
Have you seen a Bronx Tale? I can't remember, really, I really
can't remember. You probably haven't then, because you'd probably remember if you'd seen
it. It's really good. So this is like, I've never heard you
actually put a movie in a high ranking. Yes, I've put many movies
in high rankings. I've put some movies and low rankings. It all depends.
Because we were talking about movies when we were coming in, well,
I mentioned it anything. The Fifth Element is one, Oh yeah, the
fifth I've never I've never seen the Fifth Element. See now, I think
you're crazy. It's awesome and you would see what I see in the world
coming coming together. Perhaps something about it never appealed to me. I mean,
I like Bruce Willis, but something about the Fifth Element it just never
appealed to me. It's really good. What what doesn't appeal I don't know
everything. It's action, it's adventure, I don't know. It's got sexy
woman, sexy guy. Uh yeah, I've just never seen it. But
uh, hey, that's you know, that's nothing. Look, Friday nights
we do Retrospect radio with poly c Here and Paul has never seen this is
spinal tap or Purple Rain, which is very odd. I know, I
know it's not it's not acceptable in my opinion, no offense to police,
but it's just unacceptable. He needs to see this. DJ. Yeah,
how do you how do you not? I don't know, I don't know.
You can't be a music person that not sees I know, yeah,
you have to. Yeah, Purple Rain is the Purple God, so like
you have to. Yeah, I was. I've tried to tell him.
I've said, listen, you see Purple Rain. You're going to be astounded
by Prince's acting. An Academy Award winning performance in my view, absolutely should
have been. I'm sort of kidding. He barely he barely. Prince barely
has any dialogue in the film. But I'm not knocking it because I love
Prince and I love the movie. When when I was a kid, my
true story, my grandparents took me because they knew that I loved Prince.
So you know, in the summers, I would go spend spend the summer
with family out in uh out in the Midwest, in Chicago, and uh,
she's I don't even know. I was. Well, let me put
it this way, I was young enough that my grandparents on my mother's parents,
Uh, they I think I think they had a little bit of regret
when they, especially with a particular scene in that film, because I was,
Uh, I was certainly too young to go to an R rated movie
by myself. And I remember my grandmother was not particularly uh, she wasn't
in The Prince. She really liked Morris Stay though she was very taken with
Morris Stay Morse day in the time. Yeah, but she was she wasn't
that. She wasn't that in the Prince. Prince. Oh, when I
was. When I was a kid, my mom wanted to go see Prints
and her friend was supposed to go with her. And back in the day,
the only way to get tickets to a concert was through Ticketmaster, and
you had to call in on a phone line, which meant running into massive
busy signals, or you had to go there in person to buy the tickets.
Now, with these tickets were going on sale first thing in the morning,
I was with my mom on a sidewalk with a whole bunch of people
camped out. We stayed on the sidewalk overnight. My dad thought we were
nuts. My grandmother really thought we were crazy because she lived near the ticket
master and when it was about time that she would be awake, we reached
out to her and she's sent over hot chocolate and animal crackers for us to
know Sean, because we were we didn't think. We didn't bring it much
of anything with us. We were just excited to go do this and we
did it, and we ended up with the tickets and went to and it
was the Paisley Park era m so Sheili was touring with him. Yeah,
and it was an amazing contest concert. But that memory of just getting to
sleep out on the sidewalk waiting for those tickets. There was no online there
was none of them. Yeah, this world didn't exist. You had to
go to the ticket master personally or call in and and and unlike today and
electronics, you'd call in. There's only so many lines, so you get
busy singles. So you'd literally sit there and pressed and and there was no
digital Okay, we had to press every number with a finger or dial it.
There was No. It seems it seems almost prehistoric, doesn't it.
No cell phones. I remember we call Grandma from a payphone because there was
no such thing as a cell phone. Uh yeah, right. The more
I deeper I get into this, the more ancient I feel. Well,
you know what's odd about that. I was thinking about this recently is you
know, obviously, for people who are young enough that they grew up with
the Internet, this all sounds very strange. But I think for a lot
of us who are old enough to have grown up without the Internet, it
also sounds very strange because as as you're sitting there describing that, it's even
though I vividly remember that time, somehow it's like I feel like we're all
so far removed from it, even though we're old enough to remember that,
because it just sounds so strang It sounds so bizarre, you know, like
like some things from from when I was a kid don't seem that st Like,
yeah, you know, I remember when there were payphones and you know,
phone booths everywhere before everybody had a cell phone and whatnot. It's like,
yeah, that's that's how it was when I was growing up. But
then when you start talking about like buying tickets and having to go to ticket
Master or try to call on the phone. It sounds like a like another
lifetime. Really, it's like like another universe, Like how did how do
it reminds me of that scene? And uh Star Trek is it? Uh
Star Trek five when they when they go to find Spock and they, oh,
no, it's where they save the whales and and they they have to
travel back in time to Earth at that point, which was present day in
the eighties, and they you know, and and and uh, doctor McCoy
makes that comment of it's amazing these people ever got out of the twentieth century,
you know, because somebody's somebody's buying a newspaper out of a machine and
McCoy just can't believe what he's seeing. But that's how it feels to me,
like like thinking about you know Ticketmaster, and well, I mean Ticketmasters.
You know it's live Nation, it all still exists, but but you
know, having to go there and and try to Oh. Eric Pilcher says,
that's four, okay, Oh, Three is the search for Spot that's
right. Four is when they find him and they save the whales. And
then five is where they go to Find God, which I think is an
underrated Star Trek film, even though I'm the only one who actually likes Star
Trek five. But that's what that makes me think of. When you're talking
about all that, It's like, wow, that we really did exist in
that time, but I feel like we're all so far removed from it.
We are, I mean, And then to go to the Prince concert,
which was at Boston Garden which is now TD Garden. Yeah, you you
couldn't have any kind of cameras on you. If you got caught with a
camera, they'd kick you out. Yeah. You didn't get caught with a
recording device yep, which back then would have been like a tape player,
because you couldn't walk around and record on a disc. People had those.
People have those dat recorders yeah, yeah, which actually were for for such
small and seemingly primitive technology by today's standards. The sound quality on those was
actually really good. Yeah, but that was that was you could get.
You could get really good bootleg recordings with those those. That part was easy
because you just keep it in your jacket or whatever. But to sneak in
a ca came, you know, again, before everyone had cell phones.
Uh's actually camera's. Actually, sneaking a camera was much riskier. Yeah,
because they'll take it. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, because they would
take it. Yeah, and they toss you if they caught you taking pictures,
they'd pull you out of the garden and toss you. Yeah, you'd
get in trouble for that. Now it's like, everybody pull your cameras up.
Yeah, here we go. Oh yeah, yeah, it's a it
is a really different I like this world better. I really love technology.
Give me more of the Jetsons. It probably seems leaning into it, and
of course, you know, for especially you know, for what I do
for work and whatnot, kind of have to, like, I feel a
certain pressure to keep up with it all because I don't want to be left
behind. But I think for those of us who lean into it, that
probably contributes to why it sounds so primitive, even though even though we are
old enough to have experienced it, it sounds so primitive now thinking back to
uh know, having to go to physically pick up tickets or call ticket master
or whatnot and keep a map book in the car. Oh yeah, because
then you'd have to get out the big giant map book and trace the root
so you can figure out how to get there. What a nightmare? There
was, no, but it probably it probably because we lean into the technology.
It is probably why it seems primitive, primitive to us, whereas someone
who doesn't, because some people actively resist technology. Oh yeah, and to
those people it probably doesn't seem primitive at all. It just seems like,
oh, a simpler time. I wish we could because there are people,
I mean, there's people younger than us who I hear talk like that,
Oh I wish we could go back to the way it was, And it's
like, uh, you don't want to go back to the way it was.
The way it was was fine for that time. It's like, why
wouldn't you want things to be bad? Work smart, and not hot?
That's my motto. Okay, I mean why wouldn't you want to I like
that I can look at my doctor on my computer screen and have a quick
a point meant and not have to wait all. The earliest we can get
you in is, you know, three weeks from now, instead of something
like that. Oh well, we could slide you into a telehealth boom.
There's my neurologist on my screen. Give me the Jetsons more. I love
it. I'm waiting for myself driving car that can get me anywhere I want
to go. Yeah, I think that, uh yeah, technology is something
to be embraced. True. You know, I probably wouldn't be sitting here
doing the show with that. Well, I mean obviously, you know,
radio wouldn't exist at all without some degree of technology. But to be able
to do a show like this and uh, you know, distribute it online
and whatnot, I mean that, you know, pre Internet, that wouldn't
have been We have the world of our fingertips. Yeah, that's something I
used to say to my son all the time growing up. If you had
asked me about something, I would tell them, you know, go look
it up. You have the world's largest encyclopedia at your fingertips. Because I
remember how much I guess I that always stuck with me, because encyclopedia's were
a big deal for me to get my hands on one and to get to
you know, look at the who you know, I get excited. I've
got this the Britannica and I've got you know, I don't know whatever the
other one was, but it would just be exciting for me to find the
information I needed. Now you can have anything you can have. I'm seeing
different points of view on one topic at just at the click of your fingers.
There's no excuse for not knowing about something if somebody says you should pay
attention to this, and you can go look it up. The worst is,
uh, people who I I kind of I kind of call this old
man syndrome. And I only really hear partly because I only really hear men.
I don't I don't think I hear women make this complaint. This seems
to be a male fixation. But when I hear men say, you know,
oh there's there's there's no good music anymore. You know, I'm I
missed the music when I was when I when I was growing up. And
it's and and but the way that ties into technology, which makes it even
more absurd, you know, aside from the fact that you know, because
there are people who it's like their whole thing is, you know, all
the good music was made stopped being made when I graduated high school or when
I graduated college, and everything after that's terrible. It's like, not not
only are are you missing out by closing yourself off, but it's easier than
ever, because of technology, to get access to any kind of music you
want to hear, there's a whole world of because it was a subject we
discussed recently on the show regarding Spotify and some new Yes, we might even
if we have time, we might even talk about Spotify today. There's some
news there. But you know how they've had to finally make some rules about
you know, what can be uploaded because it's it's getting to a point where
you know, there's just millions and millions and millions of songs being created all
the time, and and you know they have to go somewhere online, and
it's like, uh, you know, not only is it easier to access
anything that you want to hear than it's ever been, but there's so much.
That's why I always credit my dad. You know, my dad,
who is in his seventies, he's he loves hearing new music. Even today,
he's still I mean, he's hipper than I am when it comes to
music. Like he knows bands, you know, because he lives on the
I mean, he's not the most technological guy, but he but he likes
accessing music online. But he also lives on the seacoast, so he listens
to wun H, the Great College station, and here's all kinds of new
stuff that you won't hear on mainstream commercial radio. And so he's but he's
an exception of the rule most people. Jeez. It's like, well,
I think, although I don't think it happens with musicians, but I think
non musicians are much more likely too. It's like they get to like age
thirty, and it's like that's it. I'm only going to like music that
was made up to this point, and anything after this I'm going to not
like. And it's like you've got less of an excuse than ever to just
close yoursel elf off that way. Because you have access with the Internet,
you can I mean geez, any genre of music, no matter how obscure
you could think of, just google it and you'll find somebody making that kind
of music. Or if you're really stuck on the sounds of whatever it is
you grew up with, I promise you. I promise you, Like,
if you're a classic rock guy. And again I say guy, because you
know, I feel like women don't fall into this trap as much. But
if you're a classic rock guy and that's all you want to hear, is
classic rock, you know what. I'm sure you can go online and find
bands, young new bands that are making music, new music that sounds like
classic rock very easily. You can find anything, so there's no excuse for
getting stuck in that. And that's one of the great things about technology too,
because every once in a while, and it's the same type of people
that with the old man syndrome, they'll say things like, oh, I
liked it. When I was a kid, we used to just go to
the record store and flip through or CDs and flip through and find something new
to listen to, and we didn't have all this Spotify and everything, and
it was great. And it's like, yeah, you know what, I
have nice memories of that too, like going to a store and finding stuff,
but I wouldn't trade what we have now to go back to it.
Yeah that was fine. That was fine when I was a kid. Yeah,
those are nice memories. But now today I can find any anything I
can think of that I would want to play on the show. Right now,
I can literally find it in seconds and then play it. It's amazing.
We live in an amazing time and it's so bizarre that some people won't
just embrace it. I mean, you're you're missing out, especially though when
it comes to music, you're missing out. If you just close yourself off,
you can hear anything you want to at any times. It's an incredible
time to be alive. It's kind of funny because I'm kind of I've found
myself in almost an opposite category. I'm always listening to independent artists because I
get the joy of listening to the artists that we yeah, that we book
and stuff. So I always have that thing going through my playlist on Amazon
on whatever, right, And just recently I started listening to some of the
eighties music that I used to listen to as a kid because it just kind
of creeped into my playlist. But one of the greatest things about doing what
we do and doing this is getting to hear different genres, different walks of
life. I've seen and heard things I would have never thought of. The
gentleman that came in that was doing looping on a viola that was incredible,
That was incredible. We're surrounded by so much talent and having the ability to
just your fingertips go, oh, I'll try this new thing, or I'll
listen to this new person is amazing to me. Yes, I enjoyed flipping
through albums for me my enjoyment, and that was mostly going to a British
store looking for the UK imparts because they always had maybe one different song,
they had different liner notes, or they had different album art and I was
into that. But as far as getting to hear music, give me my
computer any day of the week. I can go to any band sites,
I can go to band camp, I can go to just anything and hear
any music I never even thought of or even fathomed in my brain that somebody's
out there performing and you get drawn into that really cool new sound, those
new vocal stylings. There's a lot more. I think there's a lot.
The benefit of today's world is that artistically, the globe is our canvas.
It's not limited to your little like we were limited as kids. I was
limited, very limited. We were limited to what we heard on the radio
and what we saw on MTV or you read it in a newspaper. And
if you wanted to and if you wanted to hear stuff outside of the mainstream,
you had to dig a little bit deeper, you know, you had
to listen to maybe you know, if you were in an area where there
was a college radio station, you know, you could listen to college radio
or watch on Sunday nights MTV at a show called one hundred and twenty Minutes,
which was you know, more alternative, you know, before mainstream became
alternative, you know, pregrunge. You know, so you had to dig
a little deeper. But that's no different than now. Like I think now
there's probably all these people walking around going, oh, I don't like new
music. Yeah I heard a Taylor Swift song and I didn't like it.
And it's like, again, dig a little deeper. If you're only paying
attention to what you're hearing in the mainstream, you know, it takes a
minimum amount of effort to just dig a little deeper and you can find whatever
it is that appeals to you. That's very true, Yes, very very
true. I mean all we could do was maybe go to a Battle of
the bands or some local venue and get a taste of one too maybe,
you know, just that's all you could get, yeah, when we were
younger, But now you can get anything. Yeah, literally anything. There's
zero excuse. It's pure laziness is the only excuse for for not being able
to take in the music. Yeah, I mean if you want it,
if you want it, that's what I mean. As far as what I
say lazy, I mean yeah, if you really want to hear different things,
you literally just have to go turn on your computer. Yeah, go
to YouTube and hit music and see what flows up. Absolutely absolutely, if
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Uh. I'm going to be a guest skyping into the uh Trevor's Happy Hour
podcast. I think they might also be carried on an AM station uh in
Uh cool, I think so. But I'm gonna be skyping into that.
I was invited. Trevor Garner invited me. I've I just know Kevin I
mean sorry, not Kevin Trevor online. He wanted to, Uh, he
wanted me to skype in and talk about the recent Darryl holl And John Oates
legal drama and some other and some other elements. I guess he's got somebody
else who's going to be joining us, who's also going to be talking about,
uh, you know, legal battles and music and you know, and
it's always over money, uh these things that happened in the music industry.
But uh Trevor invited me to uh to skype in. So that will be
if you go to uh Trevor's Happy Hour dot com. That's the website where
you'll be able to stream it live and then I think he puts it up
on YouTube after So I will be a guest tomorrow evening at seven pm Eastern
Time on Trevor's Happy Hour and looking forward to that. I originally met him
online because I had posted something regarding our old friend, the original No wait,
I'm the original green host on not even a show. Newer listeners won't
know what this is about. But that's right, he's the stone Green host.
But yes, our old, our old friend Tom Gully, who now
hates me. He he does. He despises me, Tom Gully from the
Tom Gully Show. But I have nothing but nothing but love for Tom,
the only person I've ever met that hates you. No, I think there's
probably you know, I said that I've ever met that you've ever met.
Yes, I'm not the world here, right, that's true. I'm sure
there are other people. I don't mind. I mean, I you know,
I like having haters. Actually it's kind of fun. But but Tom
is a strange case. Though, he's a very strange case. His whole
reason for being so angry with me to begin with was having Jesseps from Pod
Awful on the show. Uh. This was a couple of years ago,
your show, on my show. You know, Jesse had called in and
and uh, Tom. Tom was very offended and disapproving of that. And
now their buddies, which is even weirder. They're they're they're they're buds,
even weirder weird. They had an eight hour marathon show together. If you
want to call it a show, I think it was. It was more
than just being public with their their relationship. Yes, it's definitely interesting.
They have a they have a great chemistry. It's interesting, you know,
and uh, Jesse has declared that Tom is now a friend of the show,
officially of pod awful, so you know, and I kind of feel
like I I helped bring them together. Actually, well you did, but
uh, you know, but Tom is, uh something good come up.
But I've tried to call into Tom's show a couple of times and he gets
He's very upset with me. So I went into his chat room once and
he attacked. I remember that he was. He was very mean to you.
It was very weird. It was very mean. I got a back
up a minute. I have a question for you, because sometime I was
wanting to understand about the Hall and Oates issue. Yeah, is Hall refuse
Is Hall refusing to buy or Oates refusing to sell to Hall. It seems
that I don't know if Hall wants to buy Oates's steak in the company.
Necessarily he just buyt But the problem is Hall does not want John Oates wants
to sell his steak in whole Oates Enterprises to primary Wave right, and which
in fairness, they both sold shares to in the past. But I think
Oates selling the primary Wave would give primary Wave a controlling interest in the company.
So why doesn't Hall just buy it? Maybe he's not willing to pay
what primary Wave was paying. Well, maybe that's too bad, too sad
for him. Maybe he's just angry because his accusation is that Oates went behind
his back and that it is in their partnership agreement that you can't just go
and uh show their their business agreement, their partnership agreement to to a third
party without permission and uh right, that's part of what Hall's attorneys are accusing
Oates of doing. Uh. It's it's all very initially in team Hall.
But this this point matters to me greatly because if he's refusing to buy it
for himself, he doesn't have a right to walk into a court and say,
excuse me, I want to I want a restraining order to stop Oats
from being able to sell his portion. If it's Oats going, I'm not
going to sell it to you. I'm gonna like totally, you know,
su over and and sell the controlling shares to this company, and they're going
to own what you wrote, what you did, your work. So that
matters greatly to me whether or not Hall is refusing to buy or not being
allowed to buy. But Hall also claims in recent years that Oates has been
very mean to him, which is shocking to me. That's nothing to do
At the end of the day, we're talking business here, and controlling shares
is nothing to do with anything. Whether you're mean, nice or whatever.
Oates has been a mean man, does it matter, does not matter if
he's been mean or not. In your opinion, that has nothing to do
with the business arrangement. The business arrangement and all the body of work that
they have. See, I'm firmly and I in every instance, I'm going
to side with the artists to control their own creations, certain songs, their
own sounds that should belong to the artists. It's part of the artist as
far as I'm concerned. So initially, hearing this story, my instinct is
to say no, of course, we don't want a third party company controlling
all of this wonderful artistic music, you know, decades and decades of work,
instead of the actual artists who did it. But if the actual artist
who did it is refusing to buy it, you can't force the other guy
to stay in the game. Oh it hasn't right to get out. Oh
it hasn't right to say, you know what, I'm done. I want
to take my money and go retire, go do my own thing. But
if it's in the partnership agreement that neither can sell without the other's approval,
that's a different story. You willingly engaged in that agreements, and it's a
contractual obligation. So yeah, you're going to have to go to court if
you want to change any part of that because you are bound over by that.
Yes, so again, yes, well just quickly, well look at
these are not now, these are not comments in the chat room, to
be clear, these are comments on the YouTube video. We posted the clip
of us discussing this last week in great depth on YouTube, and if you're
looking for it on YouTube, it's titled Matt Connerton and Jen Coffee discussed Darrell
All versus John Oates fight and legal drama, but just a few comments that
people made at what's the fuss for three three to two said quote, I
don't know why I'm saying quote said the following, this is a very sad
situation. I hope they can come to some better agreement. Yeah. I'm
fifty five years old and I've been a fan of Hall and Oates ever since
I was like twelve years old. I just wanted to mention when you were
talking about a song that would go for selling KFC, I remembered. In
November twenty seventeen, Hollan Oates song You Make My Dreams was used in an
Applebee's commercial to sell dinners. Applebee's introduces its tipped steak and twisted potatoes combinations
to the tune of Hall and Oates's classic You Make My Dreams. Diners can
choose their steak topping and tater to or mashed potato side for their own dream
worthy meal. I have no memory of that. I don't remember the commercial,
but You Make My Dreams was in the news within the past year or
two years because it topped I think one billion streams on Spotify. Speaking of
Spotify, which we were talking about earlier, multi Peter Cool on the YouTube
video commented, H and O. Fans have known Daryl and John have been
on thin ice for decades. It became obvious by the way they never acknowledged
each other on stage during the nineties. I've lost a lot of respect for
Daryl because of this. If your business partner wants to cash out his shares,
he's entitled to do so. Your only recourse is to better the offer
John has on the table case closed. I found the commercial. Oh you
did yet I did, and I just sent it to you. Oh okay,
so you'll be able to check that out. All right, Very good,
very good. At Dip Do Dip Do seven seventy five, I apologize
I dip to if I didn't say that correctly. It always comes down to
money. It becomes contentious when there is an imbalance in talent and production.
And at Sydney, I'm sorry. At Cindy one O eight five eight said
egomaniac, grow up. Now, that's a little cryptic. I don't know
if Cindy one eight five eight is calling Darryl Hall an egomaniac or calling me
an egomaniac. I don't know, but like I said, if you know
she's calling me that, that's fine. It's like I do, think it's
kind of fun to have some haters. Oh no, it wasn't KFC,
so I don't know. Oh, it's not KFC. Sapplebee's right. No,
Freedola, Pepsi Cola Beverages. Oh. This is a plot of a
new holiday TV ad from Freedola and Pepsi Co Beverages titled Melt. The Spot,
which includes Hollandolds Timeless classic You Would Make My Dreams Come True as it's
soundtracked, is part of a turn of the two brands collaborative Share More Joy
campaign. So that's what that was all about. But it does surprise me.
I had honestly never know that any of their work was used in a
commercial. Oh yeah, I know. It was jarring the first time I
heard Prince at a commercial because I know that he wouldn't have liked that.
I don't think he would have liked that at all. Yeah, I don't
know, but yeah, if you don't control your publishing, people can take
your music and do as they You know, whoever owned does control the publishing,
whoever owns it can, which comes back to the root of this,
this this issue, this case. If it's about controlling their own body of
creative work, and Oates is refusing to sell the Hall, that's one thing.
If Hall is refusing to buy it, that's another. Well, I'm
sure we'll learn more than the coming days. Also too, speaking of food,
that reminds me because it was quite the spread at bonfire the other night,
Wednesday night, the miracle on Elm Street, very successful, very well
attended. I have no idea what any final tallies were, as far as
I heard on the move on the Morning Show that it was around ten thousand
dollars. Well, that's got to be. That's got to be last year.
Oh it does, I remember here because I was listening to the Morning
show. Yeah, it did beat last year. Absolutely. It was amazing,
what an amazing night. I saw so many people. The whole place
was packed and it was ACKed full of people that were there to support the
kids here in Manchester. And I at one point I had taken a picture
around this Christmas tree at the front where people were dropping presents for kids of
all ages, and it was like a it was piled, it was deep,
it was my understanding was this, and even it was an even bigger
one at another location. So it looks like it really feels like the city
came out for its own. Yeah. Absolutely, it was excellentency and the
food was amazing. Yes, yes, somebody made oh what are those pastry
I love I can't think of the word for it, the deep fried pastryanadasas
somebody brought in these empanadas that were amazing, those amazing hot dogs and just
everything. Yeah. I really enjoyed the pizza. The pizza was really good.
Of course I always enjoy the pizza, this is true. But any
right way to find you what I had to find you is like oneer where
Matt is, oh yes, pizza, but you were right there. But
congratulations too of course Matt Kushane, who always has a great job, and
Peter White obviously also a big part of the miracle on Elm Street. I
know Jeff nine is heavily involved in it, and everybody who's involved in it
who I'm not aware of their involvement. Congratulations to everybody. I want to
go shopping with them, very very successful event. Yeah, they get to
go shopping for the kids too, with the money that gets raised, Yeah.
Yeah, and it's really cool. Yeah, I want to get to
go do that. Yeah, absolutely absolutely, also too well mention Thursday night.
I had to think for a second, this week is a blur.
We were at the hop Knot for a wonderful event there. Now, usually
Thursday nights are very busy at the Hopknot, and this Thursday was no different.
But usually Thursday night is Trivia Night at the hop Knot, hosted by
the great Broderick Lang, and it's a very successful feature there. But I
guess this week Broderick I don't know if he was on vacation or something,
so they did something different. So they had drag Bingo and it was very
cool. We were there and had a wonderful time. Yeah, and I
thought it was a great and it was, and you had I could not
believe that you'd never played bingo before. I had never played bingo before.
I went through school and never played bingo. I don't know, Yeah,
we just never played bingo. Is that something that's being done in schools usually.
Yeah. I mean, well when I it was like it was a
bingo game that had to do with education. Oh okay, But like I
just I was just surprised that you'd actually never played a bingo game, not
that I could recall. No, never played bingo in my life. It
was a lot of fun though. It was a lot of fun well,
and it was another first for me. I'd never been to a drag event
either. Yeah, that's true. That was my second drag event. Yeah,
yeah, equally as fun as the first. And the last one was
a drag Bindo too. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of fun to be
have. Absolutely great crowd. It was really busy in there, yeah,
which was awesome. Yeah. And again, where was Matt eating a pretzel
pizza? Yes? Yes, And we ran into Krispy Chris Porrier, who's
going to be on the show soon. He's been on the show before.
I think he's also been on the morning show, local comedian, and he's
bringing a couple other comedians whether I can't I can't remember if that's next week
or the weekend. No, I believe they're coming in at the twenty third
of the morning, Yes, right before Race pipes in from the UK.
Absolutely. Let's say hello to everybody in the Facebook live chat. Like I
said, it is a busy chat room this morning. Let's see Eric Pilcher
of course, joins us in the chat room. In the second hour.
We're going to hear Eric's classic film review this week. The subject is a
Bronx Tale, one of my favorite films. Jenny, you're in there,
of course him everywhere. Jay fed and Melanie Liberty both from of course,
the great State of Vermont, and we were talking, actually, I think
it was on Retrospectro Radio last night with Paul C. We were talking about
how loyal they are to the station and all the shows here. We really
appreciate that. Bruce from Legion of Solace joins us in the Facebook live chat.
Great band and also very loyal. Hello Bruce. Run Like Wolves in
the Facebook live chat, very excited about Kenny Troon and says Hello, Jenny.
Hello. DJ Steve in the Facebook live chat says good morning, Matt
and Jenny. Happy Saturday morning. Run Like Thieves says, Kenny is one
of the most talented people we know. Kid plays drums, guitar, sings,
writes amazing songs, also wraps. Yeah, I did not know that.
I didn't know that he Yeah, I did not know he played so
many instruments. So I'm really looking forward to meeting him. Anyway, because
I thought his music is great. Yeah, I had no idea until they
type that. Yeah, if you're just joining us and you don't know,
Kenny Troon will be here in the third hour today at eleven am and he's
gonna play live for us in studio, and we have some studio tracks as
well. Run Like Thieves was was with us in studio a couple of weeks
ago, and you can find that in the archive. That was also great.
They came in and played live, just amazing. Referring to Eric's film
review of a Bronx Tale, one of my favorite lines from my absolute favorite
scene in the movie, now you can't leave. I think he actually says
now you now you can't leave? Yeah, and Eric says, sorry,
I couldn't include that. That the bar fight scene in the h in the
review. Ah, that is such a great scene though. I think that's
my favorite scene from the entire film. And we're going to be seeing Run
Like Thieves, Yes, in January seventh. We'll be seeing Run Like Thieves
at the Conquered Pavilion. Yes. So if you're going, please come find
us and say hi. We'd love to see you in person. But I'm
really looking forward to that. Yep, we mentioned spinal Tap earlier too.
And Bruce from Region of Solace it says, if the rumors are true,
a spinal tap sequel is coming. Yes, yes, I am so hopeful
for that. I've seen those rumors and I'm really hoping the true Yeah.
And DJ Sieves confirms it. He says, that's definitely coming out. That'll
be all right. We gotta go see that on the big screen. Yeah,
we need the big sound. Oh yeah. Absolutely. Dan Fallon from
Run Like Thieves. This is referring to our conversation earlier about technology and embracing
technology. Dan would literally embrace it, he says, I would hug a
robot. I would to somebody else had mentioned Rosie from the Jutsons, I
would like my own Rosie. Oh yeah. Bruce from a Legion of Solace
mentioned Rosie. Absolute, I would love a Rosie. Rosie wash dishes,
Rosie washed the floor. Yeah, I want a Rosie. Run Like Thieves
says yes, come to the Bank of Oh, I'm sorry, come to
the Bank of New Official. Oh. Oh, I see he's posting the
event in there. Yes, at the New Hampshire stage upstairs at the Conquered
pavilion. Yeah right, that's right right downtown. Yeah, yeah, good,
it's a great venue. Carol's a war which joins the sun, says
good morning, Good morning Carol. Also Isaac Banks, of course from Greensboro,
North Carolina. Isaac Banks says this evening, I will be performing on
Facebook Live online a Saturday evening eighteen sensational iikeman Breezy, that's me of my
nickname. I will be performing some cover tunes, no requests, hashtag gen
coffee and hashtag Manton. What do you mean, no request, no requests,
limitations, laying down the law, no request. Isaac Banks also says
good, I'm sorry what I say the nay? Good morning, Victoria Piper,
how are you doing? I will say that I would hope you can
come to the Inner Rhythm Choir concert at Lindley Park Baptist Church at seven pm
to eight pm inside at the chapel in Greensboro, North Carolina. I was
gonna say at Walker av I'll tell you what this this Lindley Park Baptist Church
in Greensboro, North Carolina. It seems to be a very happening place because
our friend Isaac Banks is always posting these amazing events that are that are happening
at the Lindley Park Baptist Church and apparently it's on Walker AF which I didn't
realize. Is that where the wrestling is? Yes? Is that what the
Hearty's Compound is? Yes, it's out the Baptist I would like to Yes,
I want to go. I want to go to the Hardy's Compound to
meet Matt Hardy. Rob Dyon is in the Facebook live chat. Rob of
course part of the W M and H family. He as his own show
here through the Stage Door Yeah, Auning Darling and on UH on Thursdays,
he does name that Tune and his own entertainment report on the Morning Show with
Peter White, which is my favorite. I love late name that too,
and I hardly ever get anything right. I stink with titles, but I
like playing it. Isaac Banks also says, by the way, I will
be performing because Steven Servis and I formed a singing pop group of BB and
T what oh which stands for book beat and true Oh wow, that's snappy.
You gotta get you gotta get Lou, You gotta get Lou Pearlman out
of out of prison. To promote that we are performing for karaoke at Hidden
Gate Brewing Place with the DJ. Energizer is the host for it on December
twenty one, twenty twenty three, at six thirty to eight thirty pm.
So check out at BB and T on facebook page. Wow, all right,
which is a real place. Hiddingate Brewing is a real place. Well,
I'm sure they've got nothing on the Lindley Baptist Church or whatever it is.
Scott Robinson joins us in the chat, and of course we ran into
Scott at the Miracle on Elm Street at bonfire. Scott says, happy Saturday
morning to my fellow Connorton Heights. It was a good seeing you guys Wednesday.
Yeah, it was good seeing you Scott. Wonderful to run into you.
There always a pleasure. Miriam Bannis joins us in the Facebook live chat,
says, good morning. Got to work at the craft Workers Guild so
sadly can't stick around for two weeks from today I will be able to listen
to the whole show. What is that the craft Workers Guild? Yeah,
well, the craft Workers Guild is actually a lot local guild that Miriam has
become a member of, where artisans can go and display their art for sale.
And one of the ways that you can do that is an exchange of
service. You go and you volunteer at the shop and work in the shop,
and in exchange you get to Hockeyr Wares in the shop. And Miriam
is incredibly talented at Origami m I have earrings that she's made. It's amazing.
And she makes these really really cool boxes that you can get to put
like gifts in. In fact, she's made them for me to give gifts
in. So those are actually available at the guild. Oh okay, oh
very good. You get back to the community community and you get to share
your your art. Cool. Jackson Harris, who I believe is also from
North Carolina, says, Hello, Matt Connerton Unleashed. Hello Jackson, Jackson,
find me the Hardy Camp. I'm sure it's not hard to find.
I'm sure everyone. I'm sure everyone there knows where it is. Follow the
wrestling. Isaac Banks also says for the event of a Saturday Evening eighteen sen
sessional, iikman Breezy, is you can comment to me? Huh yes,
what so if we follow that event we can comment to him. I can't
follow the words, but no requests. See that's me, got a set
list I want request no requests saying it. If you'd like to join us
on the program before we get to the top of the hour, take a
breakout six o three two five oh six oh seven. The studio line is
open. Uh six oh three two five oh six o seven. We should
you say hello to Scott Robertson. Yes, I didn't hear you say.
Scott said, we got to see Scott Robertson. Oh. Mike from Queen
City Cabinetry also in the Facebook live chat. Mike one of our great sponsors
here at w m n H, Queen City Cabinetry and the historic Sunbeam Mall
and Mike also joins us. He wasn't uh here last night, but he
is one of our co hosts on retro Spectrum Radio with poly C, which
you can hear every Friday night from eight to eleven pm here on wm and
H. And of course if you miss it, it is in the archive
at wmnhradio dot org. And I think there's also a replay of it now
on Wednesdays at six pm. I believe, yes, I know he's at
Wednesday. I'm not positive on the time. Yeah, check the schedule if
you would like. Yes, yes, we actually have Well, I think
we'll save this. Well, we'll save this for the second hour because we
are close to the top of the hour. So I think we're gonna play
another Kenny Trouon song and then show some love to our amazing sponsors. But
when we get an hour number two we should talk about I don't know how
much time we'll we'll spend on it necessarily because we have a few things we
could do, but you are correct. Wednesdays at six pm is the replay
of Retrospectrum Radio very good Kiss who is again? I put my bias up
front. They are my favorite band of all time. They just played their
what it was there a farewell show at the at Madison Square Garden. But
a new Kiss era has begun. Yeah for those of you who don't know.
And yeah, we'll talk about that. We'll get into that in the
second hour. But we are coming up to the top of the r so
I think we'll play another Kenny Truon song, and I've got this song Old
News that I really like. He is our musical guest today and we'll be
joining us in the third hour of the program. But we're gonna take a
break, and then in the second hour, Yeah, we'll talk about Kiss
and the new era, the changes there, and of course we'll have Eric
Pilchri's classic film review as well. In the second hour this week the subject
is a Bronx Tale. And then of course in the third hour, Kenny
Truon will be joining us live in studio. But let's listen to another song
of his. This is great. This is called old News from Kenny Trrouon
and you're listening to Matt Connorton unleash. We are live from the studios of
WMNH ninety five point three FM. Plenty more to come. Hyeah. Yeah,
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Nothing is fine? Did anything change while we paused the show? And
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no clue, it was an accident, Stay true by the essence made you
how lapping? I don't know whatever happened, no clue, it wasn't nice.
Stay despite the essence we made you that. How did you think this
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and around the globe. You can go to my website Matt Connorton dot com
for all your live streaming options, social media links, contact info, show
archives, et cetera, et cetera. Today is Saturday, December nine,
twenty twenty three. Jenny is here as well at the news desk for yes,
Yes, And of course we are now every if you didn't know,
we are every Saturday morning from nine am to twelve noon Eastern time, of
course for those of you listening online from various locations. And uh, we've
got a three hour show. We are, as I said, entering hour
number two, and we've got plenty of good stuff coming up for you.
Uh. In a little bit, uh, part way through the hour,
we're gonna have Eric Pilcher's classic film review and this week the subject is from
nineteen ninety three, A Bronx Tale, one of my all time favorites.
So I really look forward to sharing Eric's review with you for a popular feature
on the show. And then of course, in the third hour, we
have a great musical guest coming in. Kenny Troon will be here. We
just heard another one of his tracks a moment ago Old News, one of
his great studio tracks, and he's going to come in. He'll be live
with us in the third hour, coming up at eleven am. So really
looking forward to that as well. If you would like to join us,
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six o three two five oh six o seven. Melanie law Liberty from the
Great State of Vermont in the chat room says, my Saturday morning horror movie
is done, So now I'm back. I can't just stop a movie once
I started it. Oh my god, I understand Isaac wanted me to let
you know that he'd be right back. I did see that in the chatter
room. Yes, he said, Jen Coffee, tell hashtag Matt Connorton,
I'll be right back. Oh forgive me hashtag Matt. You know about will
be right back. You know what it reminds me of when somebody uh like,
like when somebody calls into the show and says, uh, you know,
uh, tell tell so and so. Somebody else who's on the show.
You know, a caller will say tell so and so. I said
this, and it's like they can hear you. They have headphones on,
they can hear you. Texas Mike is in the Facebook live chat yeha and
says, listening from work double shift today, while we appreciate your dedication such
a hot you're a hat worker. He is incredible work ethic. Absolutely our
friend, Texas Mike. Let's see I suppose oh, let me actually do
this too for people just joining us quick plug. Tomorrow night, I will
be skyping into Trevor's Happy Hour if you go to Trevor's Happy Hour dot com.
Trevor Garner has invited me to appear on his program, So I will
be skyping in tomorrow evening to talk about and we touched on it again in
the first hour this week. We had an extensive conversation about it last week,
of course, but the current legal debacle going on between Darryl Hall and
John Oates and seems the whole world is talking about it. But I've been
invited to discuss the issue tomorrow night on Trevor's Happy Hour Trevor's Happy Hour dot
com. They go live at four pm. Apparently they're on the West coast
four pm Pacific, which would be seven pm Eastern time, so tune in
for that. And from what I understand, Trevor's going to post the segment
on YouTube, so if you don't get to hear it live, you'll be
able to you'll be able to watch it later. So I'm very excited about
that. Let's see. Well, speaking of exciting now, Kiss, of
course my favorite band. They just wrapped up the End of the Road tour,
but something happened at the They did two nights at Madison Square Garden in
New York City to finish out the tour the End of the Road, and
at the end of the second show, the digital avatars were unveiled. This
explains that this is from the Verge dot com. Kiss debuts immortal quote unquote
digital avatars and plans to go fully virtual. Says here, Kiss has been
on a really, really long tour. The biggest glam rock band of all
time has been playing it's End of the Road tour for the last four years.
And by the way, part of that is because COVID interrupted and you
know To their credit, Kiss took the pandemic very seriously, not to rehash
that, but not everyone took it as seriously as they should have. But
so you know, the tour was interrupted, obviously, and they just wrapped
up the final show of its final farewell tour in New York City at Madison
Square Garden on Friday. Kiss has done several farewell now. See is this
drives me nuts when I see this and I hear people say this Kiss has
done several farewell tours, but this time might be for good. That is
not true. They did a farewell tour in two thousand and one into two
thousand and two of the original lineup of the band, and then they,
like a lot of like many many many artists do, they unretired relatively quickly
with a new lineup. Uh And for the past twenty years, Ace Frehley
and Peter Cris have not been in the band. It's been instead Tommy Thayer
and Eric Singer, along with of course Jean Simmons and Paul Stanley who have
always been in Kiss. And then they announced the end of the road tour.
Yeah, it was like four years ago now, but that's that's it.
They've They've done two farewell tours, the the what was actually the farewell
tour of the original lineup, and then this, which is definitely because you
know, Geene Simmons is seventy five years old, He's not going to be
continuing to run around in those uh well he can't run around in them,
but those those big, huge monster boots that he wears. Something happened to
Paul Stanley during the tour. They had to cancel a couple of shows in
Canada because he got the flu I think, but yeah, there's you know,
well, you know, I mean they're older now, I mean,
you know, they're in their seventies and you know, things, things go
wrong, and but you know, it's like this enable them to be young
forever. Yes, yes, the avatars are younger, it says here.
At the end of the show, after Kiss finished plane its last song,
rock and Roll All Night, they disappeared in a hail of fire and smoke.
After the smoke faded away, the lights went down, and on the
screen beyond the stage, a camera zoomed across a spooky lake on some fantastic
planet toward the silhouettes of four figures. The new digital avatars of Kiss in
what I suppose must be their final form. Then Paul Stanley shouts, Kiss
Army, your love, your power has made us immortal. The new Kiss
era starts. Now, another of holograms. It's like a hol of deck.
Yes, Star Trek brought the light. Yes, let's see another one.
Oh, there's videos online. There's another video, and they're posted in
the article. Here shows a cooler aspect of this portion of the show,
translucent screens with shots of the band projected onto them, leading I'm sorry,
lending the show a decided futuristic blade runner feel the avatars quote performed a song.
Then the video ended and left the audience with a picture of the four
avatars under the stylized Kiss logo, superimposed with the phrase a new era begins.
The new era, of course, is one of making money from the
avatars. The company behind the show, Pophouse Entertainment, has already been doing
so with young digital versions of Abba in its Abba Voyage show for over a
year. Kiss a band that has doggedly merchandised the image for half a century.
Yeah, Kiss is the most heavily merchandised band in history. I think
the Beatles are the second seems like a good fit for such a partnership.
Pophouse said in a press release that it will put on immersive avatar powered concerts
using kisses, industrial light, and magic created avatars. Watching big acts like
Kiss use digital recreations of themselves isn't surprising. After all, these are people
who have made a great deal of money off and image they've created, so
why not keep that money faucet open? Do people really want to gooteate a
quote unquote live show with no live performers? Yeah, I think they absolutely
do. Bloomberg reported that those Abba avatar shows have been pulling in two million
dollars every week, and Variety wrote last week that the Eras Tour concert video
had passed two hundred and fifty million dollars in worldwide box office sales. Kiss
and its avatars could do just fine. For more about the band's future.
Oh and there's there's a link to the video which there's a twenty two minute
video with an interview that kind of explains it to the Abba. Tickets are
going for a little over one hundred dollars apiece, and according to what I'm
reading, the production has been ninety nine percent sold out. Every night for
the past fifteen months. Yeah, so this is clearly the market. Yeah.
You know what's interesting is the science about it, how they build this
thing. Yeah, a call. Our friend Mike Doyle is online. Hey
Mike, hey man, how you doing good? How are you very good?
Hey? Jenny, good morning. You sound different in the morning,
I do. Yeah. Your voice, your your voice, your voice is
deeper. Yeah, I think I think that's I think that's true for many
of us. But yes, you're you'res is obvious. That's my my bird
Land, my Bert Land cast voice. Oh yes, hey, I wanted
to say a couple of things. I wanted to say. Congratulations on your
new time slot. Thank you, thank you. You know, for many
years I always thought your afternoon show two hours wasn't enough. Mm hmm,
I just did for some reason. You do things and you and you run
out of time, you always use an extra hour. So I think this
new three hour thing might might fall right into your wheelhouse. Yeah, give
you, give you a little more flexibility. And so congratulations on the new
time slot. Is Jenny going to be doing it all the time with you?
Yeah, as long as she's willing to keep showing up with me.
On Saturdays, yes, are most of the time. I take chocolate and
flowers to show my age a little bit. I always I was having this
discussion about a week ago about how technology is passing by people who are in
my age group, you know, sixty years older, and just the things
that are coming up more and more technology wise, and we're just lost,
you know what I mean? Yeah, younger in the mid crowds like you
guys get it and we don't. So I think it's quite I think it's
do you feel do you feel like a pressure to try to keep up with
it? Or do you or do you just kind of say, I mean
from I'm not asking you to speak for everyone in your age group, Mike,
but like from your personal perspective, do you do you try to keep
up with it or or are you just kind of like, you know,
that's okay if some of the technology passes me by, that's all right.
I mean, how do you how do you feel about it personally? Yeah?
I don't. I don't try to dive into it, but I do
want to know about it, and so I use the reference of my thirty
one year old daughter who's a school teacher and knows you know every flip and
number and everything you can dial and yeah, whatever, so I ask her,
you know you cheat a little bit, and yeah, for instance,
for instance, two things this morning you were talking about. I just flipped
on and two things you were talking about. For somebody who doesn't do social
media, I have no idea what hashtag is. Oh, I hear it
all the time, right, I believe it has something. I don't even
want to try to try to figure out what it is, but maybe you
can, maybe you could tell me. I mean it says basically, a
hashtag is when you put the number sign in front of something so that it's
it's kind of highlights it. Yeah, yeah, it highlights it. So
when you see when you see that hashtag, you know that number sign before
something, you know that that what whatever is related, whatever piece of content
is related to that hashtag, has something to do with that specific subject.
In theory, somebody you know, you're all going to say on that same
subject kind of thing. If somebody searches that particular hashtag, then in dairy
you pop up right, I gotcha. Yeah, And that and that leads
me into the avatar, which you were just talking about. And I'm going
what the hell is for real? Right, Yeah, it's wild. Yeah,
no, I understand it is. I've heard of it. And is
it the same as a little while back there was a couple of I think
it was Lady Gaga and and uh oh, I know what you're thinking,
And who is it that's the the holographic images that they bring up this the
thing with them passed away. Oh yeah, yeah, that's civil it's similar,
but I think it's I think it's different in some perspectives because when I
was watching videos on how they do this, I was watching videos a kiss
doing the work. They had to actually wear special suits and helmets that have
electronic markers on them that get filmed while they're playing their instruments and moving around,
so those movements can get pulled into the computer program. Yeah, it's
kind of similar, I think to the technology they use for video games.
When you have, like say a video game that's based on wrestling, you
know, they have the wrestlers actually go and when they're creating the video game,
you know, they have to put on all this equipment and then they
go and perform the wrestling moves and they film them for the video game with
the performer wearing all this stuff and it's yeah, the technology is interesting,
but yeah, what Jenny was referring to those video of Kiss basically performing concert
in this studio where there they've got all this equipment on and and they're being
filmed, uh for and then I guess that performance is then transferred to the
avatars. And it's all a bit beyond me. You can google it and
actually find some images, the images of Abba wearing these suits as well doing
their thing to get turned into these avatars. But they're using younger versions of
themselves for the imagery, like they get to pick their best self from their
careers. Yea, and it looks amazing, lady. I think it was
with one of the old crooners. I know that was which one, you
know? I think it was one of the one of the old rat pack
or something. Well, she did h that was real. She did something
with Tony Bennett. But that was real. He was actually yeah, no,
that was really Tony Bennett. Yeah, that was yeah. A couple
of years before he passed. Yeah, sadly he had suffered from dementia.
However, the one thing he never lost was his music. And if you
put him near a piano or whatever he would want to sing, he would
he would get and he would just light up. So when they did that
with him, it was amazing because you know, he just lit up.
But that was very, very real. Yeah. Yeah, So my last
question is is this avatar thing going to ruin live music, live live concerts
kind of thing? You know what I mean? Are people going to get
lazy and say, let's just do an avatar of our band and we'll be
immortalized forever and then we don't have to go on Because people are always going
to want to meet their heroes, right, They're always going to want to
see their heroes in person. Concerts are those opportunities to be as close to
that star that you can get, you know, So I don't think that
would ever go away. Yeah, but the possibility of them walking by you,
Yeah, I agree. There's nothing that will ever truly replace the the
truly live experience of musicians playing live. So, I mean, I think
it's a valid concern that you bring up. I think it's a very valid
concern, But I'm optimistic about that. I don't think it'll ever Uh,
I think it enhances things overall. I don't think it'll ever actually replace the
live experience. I certainly hope not talk about a really insane way to preserve
the music, right, I mean that's yeah, yeah, it'd be great.
Well listen, hey, congratulations on your new time slot. I think
the extra hour is going to do you a whole lot of good because and
uh, you're good at what you guys do anyway, So oh, thank
you, congratulations, and happy holidays to you, and we'll talk to you
soon, all right, Mike, happy holidays too. Thank you for the
call. I appreciate it. I will see you all right, by bye.
All right. That was our friend Mike Doyle, And uh, yeah,
his voice really is deeper in the morning. It's funny, and that's
true of a lot of people. You know, when we first wake up,
we sound our voices are naturally deeper. But it's it's funny when it
when it's that our vocal course, when it's that obvious. I wonder if
I even I wonder if my voice is I don't know if my voice is
deeper in the morning or not. I've actually never really like I'm used to
hearing my own voice, so I don't know, you know what I mean,
voice too, yes, yeah, so I don't know. If I
don't know if my voice is deeper in the morning or not, it don't.
Probably it probably is, I don't know. Bruce from a Legion of
Solace in the chat says, with the rise of virtual meet and greets,
I could see digital avatar shows potentially affecting, uh, the the gate of
our live show. They really meet and greets are being done virtually. Mike
makes a valid point. I think he's kidding about that. But if that
starts, if that were to happen, where you meet an avatar and you
pretend it's I mean, there's a lot of suspension of disbelief required to do
that, to meet an avatar and pretend you're meeting the actual person. But
now if it gets to that point, then we are in trouble. We're
really talking fifth element right that world. I want that. I like that.
Well, No, I don't want the death or anything. No,
it's technology. I want the technology. If you'd like to join us,
if you have any thoughts on this six o three two five six seven six
three two five six seven. But yeah, Jenny and I were talking on
the way over this morning about years ago. It must have been at least
a decade ago now, maybe maybe twelve years maybe I don't remember when exactly
it happened, but it was a big deal at the time, and and
there was some controversy around it just in terms of is it really right to
be doing this. I believe it was. Uh, And there might be
an earlier example that I'm forgetting, but this is the first time I remember
being really conscious of this was when they had the they had effectively an avatar
or some sort of a digital version of Tupac performing it. I believe it
was at Coachella Holographic Tupac. Yeah, and I remember at the time that
sparked a lot of conversation about, well, this is cool and it's surprisingly
realistic, but is this really okay? It actually it raised some some issues
about, you know, is it ethically should you even be doing this because
it's you know, and I don't have any problem with it. I thought
it was cool, but I remember being surprised and again, imagine how far
the technology has come. Now. Well you can see it, in fact,
if you watch these videos from the show the other night, from when
the Kiss avatars were unveiled, then of course you can go online and see
videos of the Abba Show, which yeah, I mean it especially the technology
is amazing and according to this Kiss actually has experimented with VR concerts. Yeah
that it couldn't have gone over well because I don't remember ever hearing about it.
No, you know what they did do, and and I missed them
on this tour, so I never got to experience it. But when they
did the Psycho Circus tour in ninety nine, they did a three D thing
where they had they had three D screens and behind the stage, over the
stage, and then they gave out three D glasses as they're going in.
So but I don't know why, but for some reason I missed that tour.
I must have been super busy when they were in the area. And
and uh, but the reviews weren't great. It didn't go over that well.
Plus I guess there was a problem to where you know, uh,
I don't know that they'd run out of three D glasses to give out or
something, but I just remember people were kind of like, yeah, it's
this whole three D experiment, it's not really working for for this. Uh.
You know, it's not like when you go and sit in a movie
theater. It's it's it's not really working, Okay, Bruce says. The
virtual meet and greet is a face to face meeting, like you're doing a
skype call or a face chat. You get to speak with the celebrity or
the artists for a few minutes. They sign a couple of things for you
on camera. Oh I gotcha, Okay, that are eventually mailed to you.
They started doing them during the pandemic, and they found a market and
continued post pandemic. So it's like, it's like, it's like, what
do you call that. George Santos just turned up on it. What's it
called? Well, that's, uh, that's a cameo cammy you can So
it's like a cameo thing. Yeah, sort of. But but but they're
signing things and their mail to you. Okay, so it's me. They
don't necessarily talk to you, so it's not where you're meeting. So it's
not you're like you're you're not meeting the avatar. You're it's just online,
right Okay, yeah, okay, no, that makes sense. Yeah,
yeah, that's that's kind of weird to me. By the way, So
a couple of people have asked me, and I'm gonna I'm saying I'm gonna
say something here that might surprise people, because people have been asking me,
people who know that Kiss is my favorite band, how I how I feel
about this? And am I excited about this? Or am I you know?
Obviously? Uh, you know, you've got a wide range of Kiss
fans with different feelings about things, you know. I mean, hell,
there there's still Kiss fans and you can run into them online if you go
looking for them. Who depending on you know, if you go into these
different Facebook groups and whatnot. Who are I mean, there's some Kiss fans
who are still mad about you know, about about Kiss existing without you know
it, being Ason Peter in the band. I mean they're literally even in
the year twenty twenty three, there are people who've never accepted any Kiss lineup
except the original Kiss lineup curious and that's fine. I'm not knocking them.
I mean, it's, you know, whatever kisses to you. You know,
it's art, it's subjective, and you know, personally, I enjoy
all eras of the band and all lineups of the band. But a couple
of people have asked me, how do I feel about this? Am I
excited about it? Do I think it's cool. Do I think it's lame?
And the thing that might surprise some people, given that Kiss is my
favorite band and has been since I was a kid, and I'm sure always
will be, most likely, I'm kind of indifferent. I'm don't get me
wrong, I'm curious anything that they do. I'm curious about because they are
my favorite band, but I'm not I don't have any particular strong feelings about
this, and I think part of it is I mean, don't get me
wrong, if I had an opportunity to go, you know, when this
new show with the avatars rolls out and whatnot, it'd probably be interesting to
see it. But I'm but I'm kind of indifferent to it all. And
I think I think part of that has to do with the fact that when
I first became a Kiss fan. I've told this story on the air,
they were a couple of years out of the makeup because remember Kiss went for
thirteen years, Kiss was no makeup. They took the makeup off in eighty
three and they didn't put it back on until ninety six when they reunited the
original lineup and did the reunion tour. So I became a fan during the
non makeup era, and I've told the story it was. It would have
been nineteen eighty five. I'm watching MTV after school one day and the video
for Tears Are Falling was on. And I had liked Kiss before that,
but I really liked that song and I thought the video was cool. It's
a little cringe in terms of what they're wearing, but I liked the video.
And I'm watching and my dad comes home from work that day and the
video's on and he kind of pokes his head in the living room and he's
like, Maddy, who is that? Who does this song? Is that
Kiss? And I said yeah, And he said to me, He's like,
I really like this song and I said, yeah, me too.
It's like my favorite song right now. So he made a mental note of
that, apparently, because then at this would have been a probably around October.
In my Christmas stocking was that album Asylum, and I listened to it
and it became and I just fell in love with Kiss, like that was
it. They were my favorite band from that point on. But it was
during the non makeup era, so I don't have the attachment to the makeup
and the costumes and everything that part of it. Aren't they wearing the makeup
though in the avatars they're wearing them. Oh yeah, well that's the thing
that's that's kind of part of why. Well, yeah, it'd be weird
for them not to, but they have today's cruise, but it's not the
old people. But it's just but it's just that, you know, like,
to me as a fan, I've never had that attachment to those images
that people who either started being a fan back during the original you know time
when they were in makeup or it's funny. I have this vague memory from
my childhood of going to a friend's house who was really in the Kiss before
I was, when they were still in makeup and seeing the posters on the
wall of them in makeup and everything and it, but it didn't connect with
me at that point. So to me, the reason that I'm a Kiss
fan first and foremost, and this part I think is true of most Kiss
fans, it's because of the music, but it's really just that. And
I loved going to see them on tour during the non makeup era, you
know, I because I didn't need you know, always very during that thirteen
year span, always very energetic live shows, always sounded really great. The
lineups they had when they didn't have Ason Peter and the band were very solid,
live, really good players, and just it was always a great experience.
So I never I never had that connection to the makeup and the costumes.
So to me, it's kind of like, eh, Like when they
put the makeup back on in ninety six and they reunited the original lineup,
I was kind of like, Eh, yeah, this is cool and everything,
but I really liked the direction they were going anyway. But I also
understood at the time, I fully understood that for every one Kiss fan that
felt about it the way I did who had some ambivalence about them going back
to the original lineup and putting the makeup back on, there were probably twenty
fans who were really excited about, Oh, they're finally doing the reunion and
they're finally going to put the makeup back on. You know what I mean,
I do. I this is a new an incredibly cool way to be
able to preserve music and the artists. You know, in the past,
we had still images you know you've got which we try to digitize better,
or music you're trying to fix. Now we get to preserve icons, and
I think that's marvelous. I really do. I think this. I don't
think it's bad at all that they're doing this Avatar. No, I don't
either. I think it's a great way to hit Their music will always be
able to be shown introduced to somebody new. I don't know. I don't
I see more tech coming into concerts, Yeah, not less so I think
people need to kind of get used to the fact there's going to be some
tech there. But I think this is this is a great way for them
to walk away physically. Yeah, why they still can No, And I
think it's cool. Just just to be clear with everyone, I'm not I'm
not opposed to it at all. I mean there's there's some Kiss fans who
are who are negative about it, who are like, you know, and
of course, I mean if you go online and you interact with you're gonna
find a wide range of opinions on any subject related to the band. So
there's a lot of people who are very excited. There are some people who
are kind of like there are some people who are mad about it, some
fans who are like, no, they should have just that that was the
final show of the tour. That should be it to time to retire and
we'll always have the music and that should be it, you know. But
no, I think it's cool. I just don't have any But I think
because I don't have any strong connection to the makeup and the costumes, seeing
the avatars is not. I think that's where the disconnect is for me and
why again, I'm not opposed to it, but I'm not excited about it
either. I'm kind of I'm kind of indifferent. I would be excited if
they put out a new album. That would be exciting to me because it
would be new music from my favorite band. I don't think that, you
know what I mean. I don't think it's gonna happen. I think the
exactly Yeah, Bruce from Legion of Solace is asking in the chat room.
Makeup went back on just after their MTV Unplugged correct shortly after. So what
happened is when they did MTV Unplugged in ninety five, which I think is
like the second or third highest rated unplugged. I think number one is Nirvana,
but I'm not positive. But when they did the MTV Unplugged, it
was the lineup at that time for most of it, and then they had
Ason Peter come out. It was the first time Paul and Jean had played
with Ason Peter in over a decade. Ason Peter came out and they and
then the original four did two songs, and then Bruce and Eric came back
out, and then the six of them the only time in Kistory that you've
had six Kiss members playing together. But the six of them also all did
two songs together. But that led to As and Peter being a part of
that led to gradually eventually in ninety six, there were a lot of negotiations
that had to go on, but that led to opening the door to those
guys coming back into the band and doing the reunion tour. So yeah,
Interestingly, Gene Simmons had to be talked into it. Paul was very gung
ho about doing the reunion tour, but Jean was the one who kind of
felt like, I don't know, I like the direction we're going now,
do we really want Ason Peter back? Things are a lot easier without them
around, you know. And Paul Stanley had to talk him into it,
which is the same thing that happened when they took the makeup off in eighty
three. Same thing Jeane didn't want to take the makeup off. Jean was
like, I've got this character. I'm the demon, that's all I know
how to be, you know. And Paul Stanley was the one who had
to talk him into it and say, Gene, the makeup is played out.
We have nowhere else to go if we want to, you know,
get this thing, you know, really moving again and get back to the
level of success that we were at a couple of years ago. We need
to make a big change. And it worked. But but yeah, so
you know, the avatars and everything. Yeah, it's cool, and you
know, again I'm not opposed to it, but oh I'm not that excited
about it either. Funny that Jean was kidding around about how Paul Stanley is
gonna jump higher than he ever has before. Oh, and that because it
won't hurt that st at least just jumps up. Yeah, I won't hurt
either. He's Yeah, I believe Paul Stanley's had both his hips replaced,
is it? Wow, Well, it doesn't surprise me. I mean,
these guys have been walking around of these giant platform boots, have you,
you know, jumping around on the stage for decades. Yeah, I'm betting
their knees or shot their hips are shot. It's all shot. Oh,
Bruce from Legion of Sola says, in two thousand he met Bruce Culick out
a guitar clinic. Great guy. Yeah, see, Bruce is my my
favorite guitar player from Kiss who never wore the makeup. He was there only
during the non makeup era. But he's he's my favorite guitar player from the
band. I love, love, huge Bruce Culick fan, and I'm not
surprised that he was a great guy to meet in person, because, uh
yeah, Bruce is h He's got a great reputation, really really good guy.
All Right, my friends, Well, well we're going to move on.
We're going to Oh, Melanie La Liberty in the chat room says,
I feel like Bruce's serious comments balance out the the heckling bs. Oh Bruce
from Legion of Solace his serious comments. I don't mind the heckling. It's
fun. Oh. Hello to Greg Joseph, who joins us in the Facebook
live chat. We're going to get to Eric Pilcher's a classic film review.
It's about that time, and this week the subject is the film A Bronx
Tale. Personal favorite of mine and uh, and then we'll show some love
to our amazing sponsors. And then when we come back for the third hour,
we've got a great musical guest coming up. Kenny Troon will be joining
us live in studio, and I think he will have his guitar with him
and that's gonna be a lot of fun. We've also been featuring some of
his studio tracks. But let's see without further ado. Except I was foolish
and didn't have this loaded up there. It is Bronx tail review. All
right here it is you're still getting used to Saturday mornings, all right here.
It is a Bronx Tale. Eric Pilcher's classic film review. Check it
out. This is really good. I think Eric just gets better and better
with these, this one. I really really like this one. Of course
I'm biased because it's one of my favorite movies. Here it is all right
now, I got to know nice and time to four. This is the
futom section of the Bronx. My Home a world into itself. You could
get Teddy Bong fifteen minutes from here, but they might as well be three
thousand miles away. That's Mount Homeo Church and the sound of the bells would
fill the neighborhood on the streets, the swell. It was nineteen sixty and
Duop was just sound on the streets standing. It felt like there was a
duop group on every corner back then. What the time it was. The
New York Yankees were playing in the Pittsburgh Pirates in the World Series, and
Mickey Mantle was like a god to me. My dad would take me to
Yankee Stadium and we would watch the Yankees win. That's the shape Bipy.
That's where the guys hung out. But I'll tell you about them later.
That's my building. I live right there on the third floor six six eighty
seventh Street. There's my stoop. And on warm summer nights, all through
the neighborhood you would hear the sounds of young Italian men were man sing their
women all right, ma, right, gotten a car? No getting a
car? Leave me alone? Come on, baby, you know I love
it. Where you getting a car? And right there, right there under
that lamp post, Dan stood the man, the number one man in the
neighborhood, Sonny. Everybody loves Sonny and they treated him like a god.
And in my neighborhood he and I would sit on my stoop and watch them
all day and all night, but he would never even look at me,
never until one day. If one were to think of the countless movies that
have taken place in the Bronx, there would be many great films that come
to mind. However, this week's film, sadly is often forgotten in that
upper tier of films about the great city. Despite having the known area in
its title, and even though it can be overlooked, it has carved itself
a nice little legacy even over thirty years after its initial release. This week's
film is the directorial debut of screen legend and my personal favorite actor of all
time, Robert de Niro. Adapted from the autobiographical One Man's Stage play starring
in written by Chaz Paul Monterry, A Bronx Tale, released in nineteen ninety
three, presents us the story of Claire Duo, a young man that,
over the period of ten years, finds himself torn between a life in organized
crime when he is befronted by local mob boss Sonny played by Paul Monterry and
his honest, hard working bus driver father Lorenzo played by De Niro. Our
next clip will tell us how this film came to be. Two years ago,
De Niro, Paul and Terry Tommy Mottola were on The Today Show before
the premiere of the Broadway musical adaptation of this film. Paulmnary and De Niro
speak on what led to the film being made and the uniqueness of the deal
broker between the two to get it made the right way. Check out this
crew Oscar nominee Chas Palmonary, Oscar winner Robert De Niro, Tony winner Jerry's
Ax and legendary music mogul Tommy Mattola. They all share a love for the
Bronx Tail. This is a one man show. Staring was a one man
show starring Chaz Palm Andary back in the eighties. Robert made his directorial debut
and appeared in the nineteen ninety three movie version. Now, nearly twenty five
years later, they've turned a Bronx Tail into a Broadway musical. Chaz wrote
the book, Robert and Jerry codirect Tommy is lead producer. Wow, guys,
good morning, Nice to see you take this the right way. This
is like a murderer's row producing and directing talent here. This is your story
right. I saw him at a basketball game not long ago. We walked
up talk to each other. When we brought this show up, you got
a smile on your face like I have never seen before. Why does it
mean so much to you? Well, you know it's my life story,
you know, growing up in the Bronx. You know, I witnessed this
murder when I was a kid. My father, Lorenzo, was a bus
driver. He played saxophone, you know, and he always wanted to play,
you know, be a saxophone player. Which I didn't bring it up
in the movie The Other One Man Show, but I was able to do
it in this musical. Bob saw me do it in the twenty five almost
twenty eight years ago, and he said this should be a movie, and
Bob made it happen as a movie. The way the story goes, you're
told, after one night doing that One Man Show, that he's in the
house and in your dressing room and wants to talk to you. Yes,
what do you remember about that meeting? No, I had been hearing about
the show and so on, and I said I want to go see it,
and that's how it then one. I mean, it had been running
for a while a couple of months or so, I went and so cheed.
He said, we talk blah blah blah. Next thing, you know,
you say, he changed your life. And I want to mention there
were other offers you had gotten to buy the story. Why was his offer
the right offer at that time? Well, because what Bob said was well,
first of all, Bob was the one who said, you should play
Sonny and you'll write the screenplay because it'll be honest. He was the one
who gave me that opportunity. Everybody else wanted it, but they didn't want
me. They wanted to put a star in the row. But Bob let
that happen, and he let me write Mike the screenplay and really, I
mean and he looked at me and said, if you do it with me,
I'll make it right. I'll never forget those words. And he said,
shake my hand, and that's the way it'll be. That was the
deal right there. Oftentimes, in gangster films there is this poll of good
versus evil. Many times our primary character falls into the pitfalls of a life
in organized crime. However, in this film, Sonny doesn't want this life
for Claire Duro In a way, Lorenzo and Sonny want the same thing for
the young man, but they cannot see it through their different standings in the
community. Our next two clips are examples of this. First, when Lorenzo
finds out his young son has earned over six hundred dollars working at Sonny's bar
and shooting craps, he angrily confronts the mobster. Then, in the second
clip, Sonny schools the teenage Colla Juo or c as he is known as,
on life and Herkening back to the ending of our previous clip, Sonny
answers if it is better to be loved or feared? Yeah, I think
we can't accept that. I didn't give you. I give you your son.
He worked, That's right, my son, and I don't want my
son involved in what goes on here. Love. No, what what are
you talking about? Please? I'm not a stupid man. Okay, Please,
I'm not stupid. You know what I'm talking about. Just stay away
from my son. Okay, Hey, you stay right over here. Seat.
Why don't you go outside? I want to talk to your father.
I'll speak to my own son. Gout you a wait outside. First of
all, I respectul the rent. So you're a stand up guy, well,
from the same neighborhood. But don't ever talk to me like that again.
I tell your son to go to school, to go to car.
Understand, it's not what you say, it's what he sees. It's the
clothes, it's the cars, it's the money, it's everything. He tried
to throw away his baseball cards the other day because he said, Mickey Man
will never pay my rent. He said that deal, kid, that's not
funny. Not funny when your nine year old kid has a bigger bank account
than you do. I offered you a job, but you said a note
to me. That's right, And I say no. Now, just leave
my son alone. Please. Hey, don't you see how I treat that
kid. I treat that kid like he's my son. Yeah, your son,
he's my son. He's he's my son. I'm not afraid of you.
You should. I know you are, Sonny. I know what you're
capable of, and I would never step out of the line. You could
ask anybody in this neighbor who knows me. But this time you're wrong.
You don't fool the man's family. This is my son, not yours.
What are you stay away from myself? I give you a slock. Just
stay away from my stay away. Where's my money? What? How could
you do that? Dad? He was my money. That's bad money.
I don't want you to have that money. I said, I want you
to stay away from him. I said, you stay away from him.
Did you hear what I said? You stay away from him? Said?
He was right? The look communitis a sucker. Ye, he's a sucker.
He's wrong. It don't take much strength to pull a trigger. But
try and get up every morning, day after day, and work for a
living. Let's see him try that. Then, well, she was the
real tough guy. The working man is the tough guy. Your father is
the tough guy. Everybody loves him. You think everybody loves you in the
bus to say thing, No, it's not the same. People don't love
him, they fear him. There's the difference. And now Sunny imparts a
lesson on Claire Derow somemot sky Lou dumps Olvia. You know he goes me
twenty dollars. It's been two weeks now and every time he sees me keeps
dodging me. He's becoming a real pain in the ash. I mean,
should I crack him on a one somebody, what about been telling me?
Sometimes hurting somebody at the answer. First of all, is he a good
friend of us? Yeah? I don't even like him. You don't even
like him? Does your answer right? Then look at it this way.
Of course, you're twenty dollars to get rid of it. Right, He's
never gonna bother you again, he's never gonna ask you for money. Event
he's out of your life. For twenty dollars, you gotta have cheap forget
it. You're always right, You're always right. Yeah, I'm always right.
I was always right. I wouldn't have done ten years in the giant.
What did you do every day? Sony? Three? Things you've been
doing a giant kidden, lift weights, play cards and get into trouble?
What did you do than? I read? What did you read? Every
here? Machiavelli. Oh, Machiavelli. It's a famous writer from five hundred
years ago. Availability. That's what he always said. Availability. That's right.
Listen to me. I can live anywhere I want to. You know
why I live in this neighborhood. Availability. I want to stay close to
everything because being on the spot, I can see trouble immediately. Trouble is
like a cancer. You gotta get it early. If you don't get it
early, it gets too big, then it kills you. That's why you
gotta cut it out right. Come on, you worried about Louie dumps.
Nobody cares. Nobody cares. Worry about yourself, your family, the people
that are important to you. That's what it comes down to. Availability.
The people in this neighbor that see me every day, that are on my
side, they feel safe because they know I'm close, and it gives them
more reason to love me. But the people that want to do otherwise,
they think twice because they know I'm close, and that gives them more reason
to fear me. Is it better to be loved or feared? That's a
good question. It's nice to be both, but it's very difficult. But
if I had my choice, I would rather be feared. Fear lasts longer
than love. Friendships that are bought. Would money mean nothing? You see
what is around here? I make a joke. Everybody laughs. I know
I'm funny, but I'm not that funny. It's fear that keeps them loyal
to me. But the trick is not to be hated. That's why I
treat my men good, but not too good. I give them too much,
then they don't need me. I give them just enough where they need
me, but they don't hate me. Don't forget what I'm telling you.
This film builds up to one of the most heartbreaking climaxes one can see in
a quote unquote gangster film. Sonny is murdered by the man that Claire Dureau
as a young man with miss to him. Murder sees unwillingness to identify Sonny
as the shooter starts the friendship slash mentorship between the two. In our final
brief clip, Lorenzo in c finally put their differences aside, and Lorenzo admits
to Sonny, laying in his open casket, why he disliked the mentorship that
Sonny gave to his son. What are you doing here? I came to
pay my respects to your friend. Are you okay? Yeah? And I'm
sorry if I've urged one anyway, It's okay. Everything's gonna be okay,
Sonny. I want to thank you for saving my kid's life. I never
hated you. I guess it's that I was just mad at you because you
made him grow up so fast. My God, have mercy on your soul.
The way over here, Sonny, did you hear that my father didn't
hate you? Nobody cares you were wrong about that one. What is the
talent she around? Sonny? Let's go home seeing Some of you may be
asking, wondering, or even be upset that I spoiled the ending of this
film. I feel comfortable doing so because knowing the ending doesn't diminish this film's
impact or how great it is. That's because this film transcends its ending.
The powerhouse performances from pulmonarian de Niro, the accurately depicted and at times uncomfortable
showing of racial tensions in the Bronx, and a story that we all can
relate to. The mentor that made us into who we are is what this
film is truly about. I dare any of you to watch this film and
state that knowing the ending made this film any less enjoyable, because I believe
this film is much better and greater than a simple ending. I hope you
join me when we will look at the crowning achievement of director Ridley Scott's career
and our first sand in Sandals, Roman epic film covered on classic film reviews.
The film is the two thousand release Gladiator for W. M. N
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