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And ah rip the normals. Nothing
is purn there's no eckers show because we

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set them more on fire. I
figured i'd let you know you could find

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me any after glow you like doing. You just come and then go,

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But sometimes you stop to say hello, make moments that stay in your soul,

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a voice that goes and I swear
I think it's you singing in the

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meadow. I always knew that you'd
come through for me. I don't have

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the key. I did this guarantee
if you're living, to just plant a

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tree, discarding shortly know where use
running from that mean you're feeling lately,

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it doesn't matter at all. You
can't say nothing with you. Just leave

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it all on the floor, spend
all your time on the trip for truth

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for life. Now want you say
how did you find out the truth?

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Where I have to say I don't
have to saying, And now want you

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say how did you and find out
the truth? When I don't have to

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say, I don't have to say
anything. Sometimes we don't get to say

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goodbye. Words are mostly meaningly.
Just enjoy the right. I don't have

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the key. Our death is guarantee. If you're living, to breathe just

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plant a tree, discharling sharp.
No use in running from that pain you're

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feeling lately. It doesn't matter at
all. You can't take nothing with you.

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Just leave it all on the floor. Spend all your time with trip

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on True life. Wants you find
out the true? Don't have to say

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I say, did you say?
Did you find out the truth? I

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don't have to say. I don't
have to say in anything, I don't

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have to say. I don't have
to say and anything I don't have to

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say. I don't ever say anything. I don't have to say it.

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Don't ever say anything. You're listening
to w M and H. Come in,

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God, don't get so fly maself, Good morning everyone, Welcome,

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here we go. It is that
time again, Matt Connorton Unleashed and we

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are live from the studios of wm
NH ninety five point three FM and Glorious

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Downtown Manchester, New Hampshire, a
little chilly out but glorious nonetheless, also

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on Comcast Channel six if you're in
Manchester, and hello to all of our

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online listeners across the nation and around
the globe. You can go to my

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website Matt Connorton dot com for all
of your live streaming options, social media

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links, contact and Fox Show archives, etc. Et cetera. Today is

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Saturday, December nine, twenty twenty
three, and I am not alone Jenny.

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Jenny is here at the news desk. I am present and accounted for,

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Welcome, and today I am wearing
grim Rock. Ah. Yes for

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those watching online, Yes, yes, yep. He's from Pennsylvania, one

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of the many amazing musicians we've had
on the show. I really like him

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a lot and he's a lot oh
by the way, So we played that

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opening song Don't Have a Say in
Anything. That is Kenny Truon. I

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hope I'm saying his last name correctly. It's t r u h And it

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looks like Truon. We'll find out
for sure when he's here. But he's

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going to be coming up in the
third hour today at eleven am, and

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he's coming in to play live for
us, and we have some studio tracks

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and I love that song. It
was an easy decision in terms of what

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song I was going to open the
show with today because that's a great track,

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Don't Have a Say in Anything.
I like that a lot. He

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sent me a few other songs too, one of them a live performance that

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he sent. But so we'll play
all of those today and really looking forward

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to meeting him. In the third
hour. We also we had another guest

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scheduled, but he had to reschedule, our friend Ray Coats from across the

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Pond. He was going to skype
in but apparently he has the flu,

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and so he's gonna it was the
next week he's joining us. I know,

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I know further twenty third, I
know. The next couple of Saturdays,

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we have really stacked shows, which, yeah, which is fantastic,

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but yeah, So today we'll have
Kenny Truonan in the third hour. Also

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coming up in the at some point
in the second hour, we will have

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Eric Pilcher's a classic film review,
our friend Eric Pilcher. He does a

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great job, very popular segment on
the show, and I'm especially excited to

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share with everyone this week's classic film
review from nineteen ninety three, A Bronx

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Tale, which of course starring and
directed by Robert de Niro and Chas Paulmonary

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isn't it and one of my favorites? Probably I've never stopped to think about

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it in terms of making a list. If I were to make a list,

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though, of my top ten favorite
films of all time. Pretty sure.

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I don't know where on the list
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sure a Bronxstale would be on it. That's a have you seen that?

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Have you seen a Bronx Tale?
I can't remember, really, I really

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can't remember. You probably haven't then, because you'd probably remember if you'd seen

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it. It's really good. So
this is like, I've never heard you

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actually put a movie in a high
ranking. Yes, I've put many movies

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in high rankings. I've put some
movies and low rankings. It all depends.

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Because we were talking about movies when
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I mentioned it anything. The Fifth
Element is one, Oh yeah, the

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fifth I've never I've never seen the
Fifth Element. See now, I think

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you're crazy. It's awesome and you
would see what I see in the world

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coming coming together. Perhaps something about
it never appealed to me. I mean,

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I like Bruce Willis, but something
about the Fifth Element it just never

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appealed to me. It's really good. What what doesn't appeal I don't know

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everything. It's action, it's adventure, I don't know. It's got sexy

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woman, sexy guy. Uh yeah, I've just never seen it. But

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uh, hey, that's you know, that's nothing. Look, Friday nights

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we do Retrospect radio with poly c
Here and Paul has never seen this is

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spinal tap or Purple Rain, which
is very odd. I know, I

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know it's not it's not acceptable in
my opinion, no offense to police,

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but it's just unacceptable. He needs
to see this. DJ. Yeah,

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how do you how do you not? I don't know, I don't know.

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You can't be a music person that
not sees I know, yeah,

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you have to. Yeah, Purple
Rain is the Purple God, so like

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you have to. Yeah, I
was. I've tried to tell him.

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I've said, listen, you see
Purple Rain. You're going to be astounded

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by Prince's acting. An Academy Award
winning performance in my view, absolutely should

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have been. I'm sort of kidding. He barely he barely. Prince barely

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has any dialogue in the film.
But I'm not knocking it because I love

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Prince and I love the movie.
When when I was a kid, my

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true story, my grandparents took me
because they knew that I loved Prince.

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So you know, in the summers, I would go spend spend the summer

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with family out in uh out in
the Midwest, in Chicago, and uh,

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she's I don't even know. I
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it this way, I was young
enough that my grandparents on my mother's parents,

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Uh, they I think I think
they had a little bit of regret

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when they, especially with a particular
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Uh, I was certainly too young
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by myself. And I remember my
grandmother was not particularly uh, she wasn't

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in The Prince. She really liked
Morris Stay though she was very taken with

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Morris Stay Morse day in the time. Yeah, but she was she wasn't

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that. She wasn't that in the
Prince. Prince. Oh, when I

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was. When I was a kid, my mom wanted to go see Prints

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and her friend was supposed to go
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the only way to get tickets to
a concert was through Ticketmaster, and

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you had to call in on a
phone line, which meant running into massive

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busy signals, or you had to
go there in person to buy the tickets.

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Now, with these tickets were going
on sale first thing in the morning,

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I was with my mom on a
sidewalk with a whole bunch of people

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camped out. We stayed on the
sidewalk overnight. My dad thought we were

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nuts. My grandmother really thought we
were crazy because she lived near the ticket

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master and when it was about time
that she would be awake, we reached

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out to her and she's sent over
hot chocolate and animal crackers for us to

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know Sean, because we were we
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of anything with us. We were
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did it, and we ended up
with the tickets and went to and it

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was the Paisley Park era m so
Sheili was touring with him. Yeah,

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and it was an amazing contest concert. But that memory of just getting to

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sleep out on the sidewalk waiting for
those tickets. There was no online there

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was none of them. Yeah,
this world didn't exist. You had to

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go to the ticket master personally or
call in and and and unlike today and

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electronics, you'd call in. There's
only so many lines, so you get

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busy singles. So you'd literally sit
there and pressed and and there was no

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digital Okay, we had to press
every number with a finger or dial it.

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There was No. It seems it
seems almost prehistoric, doesn't it.

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No cell phones. I remember we
call Grandma from a payphone because there was

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no such thing as a cell phone. Uh yeah, right. The more

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I deeper I get into this,
the more ancient I feel. Well,

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you know what's odd about that.
I was thinking about this recently is you

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know, obviously, for people who
are young enough that they grew up with

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the Internet, this all sounds very
strange. But I think for a lot

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of us who are old enough to
have grown up without the Internet, it

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also sounds very strange because as as
you're sitting there describing that, it's even

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though I vividly remember that time,
somehow it's like I feel like we're all

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so far removed from it, even
though we're old enough to remember that,

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because it just sounds so strang It
sounds so bizarre, you know, like

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like some things from from when I
was a kid don't seem that st Like,

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yeah, you know, I remember
when there were payphones and you know,

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phone booths everywhere before everybody had a
cell phone and whatnot. It's like,

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yeah, that's that's how it was
when I was growing up. But

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then when you start talking about like
buying tickets and having to go to ticket

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Master or try to call on the
phone. It sounds like a like another

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lifetime. Really, it's like like
another universe, Like how did how do

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it reminds me of that scene?
And uh Star Trek is it? Uh

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Star Trek five when they when they
go to find Spock and they, oh,

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no, it's where they save the
whales and and they they have to

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travel back in time to Earth at
that point, which was present day in

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the eighties, and they you know, and and and uh, doctor McCoy

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makes that comment of it's amazing these
people ever got out of the twentieth century,

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you know, because somebody's somebody's buying
a newspaper out of a machine and

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McCoy just can't believe what he's seeing. But that's how it feels to me,

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like like thinking about you know Ticketmaster, and well, I mean Ticketmasters.

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You know it's live Nation, it
all still exists, but but you

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know, having to go there and
and try to Oh. Eric Pilcher says,

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that's four, okay, Oh,
Three is the search for Spot that's

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right. Four is when they find
him and they save the whales. And

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then five is where they go to
Find God, which I think is an

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underrated Star Trek film, even though
I'm the only one who actually likes Star

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Trek five. But that's what that
makes me think of. When you're talking

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about all that, It's like,
wow, that we really did exist in

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that time, but I feel like
we're all so far removed from it.

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We are, I mean, And
then to go to the Prince concert,

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which was at Boston Garden which is
now TD Garden. Yeah, you you

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couldn't have any kind of cameras on
you. If you got caught with a

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camera, they'd kick you out.
Yeah. You didn't get caught with a

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recording device yep, which back then
would have been like a tape player,

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because you couldn't walk around and record
on a disc. People had those.

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People have those dat recorders yeah,
yeah, which actually were for for such

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small and seemingly primitive technology by today's
standards. The sound quality on those was

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actually really good. Yeah, but
that was that was you could get.

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You could get really good bootleg recordings
with those those. That part was easy

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because you just keep it in your
jacket or whatever. But to sneak in

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a ca came, you know,
again, before everyone had cell phones.

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Uh's actually camera's. Actually, sneaking
a camera was much riskier. Yeah,

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because they'll take it. Yeah,
oh yeah, yeah, because they would

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take it. Yeah, and they
toss you if they caught you taking pictures,

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they'd pull you out of the garden
and toss you. Yeah, you'd

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get in trouble for that. Now
it's like, everybody pull your cameras up.

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Yeah, here we go. Oh
yeah, yeah, it's a it

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is a really different I like this
world better. I really love technology.

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Give me more of the Jetsons.
It probably seems leaning into it, and

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of course, you know, for
especially you know, for what I do

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for work and whatnot, kind of
have to, like, I feel a

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certain pressure to keep up with it
all because I don't want to be left

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behind. But I think for those
of us who lean into it, that

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probably contributes to why it sounds so
primitive, even though even though we are

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old enough to have experienced it,
it sounds so primitive now thinking back to

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uh know, having to go to
physically pick up tickets or call ticket master

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or whatnot and keep a map book
in the car. Oh yeah, because

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then you'd have to get out the
big giant map book and trace the root

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so you can figure out how to
get there. What a nightmare? There

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was, no, but it probably
it probably because we lean into the technology.

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It is probably why it seems primitive, primitive to us, whereas someone

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who doesn't, because some people actively
resist technology. Oh yeah, and to

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those people it probably doesn't seem primitive
at all. It just seems like,

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oh, a simpler time. I
wish we could because there are people,

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I mean, there's people younger than
us who I hear talk like that,

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Oh I wish we could go back
to the way it was, And it's

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like, uh, you don't want
to go back to the way it was.

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The way it was was fine for
that time. It's like, why

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wouldn't you want things to be bad? Work smart, and not hot?

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That's my motto. Okay, I
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that I can look at my doctor
on my computer screen and have a quick

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a point meant and not have to
wait all. The earliest we can get

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you in is, you know,
three weeks from now, instead of something

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like that. Oh well, we
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There's my neurologist on my screen.
Give me the Jetsons more. I love

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it. I'm waiting for myself driving
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to go. Yeah, I think
that, uh yeah, technology is something

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to be embraced. True. You
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doing the show with that. Well, I mean obviously, you know,

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radio wouldn't exist at all without some
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to do a show like this and
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and whatnot, I mean that,
you know, pre Internet, that wouldn't

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have been We have the world of
our fingertips. Yeah, that's something I

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used to say to my son all
the time growing up. If you had

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asked me about something, I would
tell them, you know, go look

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it up. You have the world's
largest encyclopedia at your fingertips. Because I

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remember how much I guess I that
always stuck with me, because encyclopedia's were

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a big deal for me to get
my hands on one and to get to

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you know, look at the who
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got this the Britannica and I've got
you know, I don't know whatever the

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other one was, but it would
just be exciting for me to find the

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information I needed. Now you can
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different points of view on one topic
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There's no excuse for not knowing about
something if somebody says you should pay

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attention to this, and you can
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uh, people who I I kind
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man syndrome. And I only really
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to be a male fixation. But
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oh there's there's there's no good music
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missed the music when I was when
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it's and and but the way that
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more absurd, you know, aside
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there are people who it's like their
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the good music was made stopped being
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I graduated college, and everything after
that's terrible. It's like, not not

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only are are you missing out by
closing yourself off, but it's easier than

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ever, because of technology, to
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want to hear, there's a whole
world of because it was a subject we

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discussed recently on the show regarding Spotify
and some new Yes, we might even

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if we have time, we might
even talk about Spotify today. There's some

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news there. But you know how
they've had to finally make some rules about

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you know, what can be uploaded
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you know, there's just millions and
millions and millions of songs being created all

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the time, and and you know
they have to go somewhere online, and

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it's like, uh, you know, not only is it easier to access

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anything that you want to hear than
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who is in his seventies, he's
he loves hearing new music. Even today,

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he's still I mean, he's hipper
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music. Like he knows bands,
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I mean, he's not the most
technological guy, but he but he likes

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accessing music online. But he also
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to wun H, the Great College
station, and here's all kinds of new

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stuff that you won't hear on mainstream
commercial radio. And so he's but he's

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an exception of the rule most people. Jeez. It's like, well,

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I think, although I don't think
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non musicians are much more likely too. It's like they get to like age

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thirty, and it's like that's it. I'm only going to like music that

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was made up to this point,
and anything after this I'm going to not

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like. And it's like you've got
less of an excuse than ever to just

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close yoursel elf off that way.
Because you have access with the Internet,

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you can I mean geez, any
genre of music, no matter how obscure

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you could think of, just google
it and you'll find somebody making that kind

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of music. Or if you're really
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you grew up with, I promise
you. I promise you, Like,

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if you're a classic rock guy.
And again I say guy, because you

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know, I feel like women don't
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if you're a classic rock guy and
that's all you want to hear, is

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classic rock, you know what.
I'm sure you can go online and find

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bands, young new bands that are
making music, new music that sounds like

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classic rock very easily. You can
find anything, so there's no excuse for

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getting stuck in that. And that's
one of the great things about technology too,

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because every once in a while,
and it's the same type of people

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that with the old man syndrome,
they'll say things like, oh, I

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liked it. When I was a
kid, we used to just go to

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the record store and flip through or
CDs and flip through and find something new

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to listen to, and we didn't
have all this Spotify and everything, and

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it was great. And it's like, yeah, you know what, I

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have nice memories of that too,
like going to a store and finding stuff,

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but I wouldn't trade what we have
now to go back to it.

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Yeah that was fine. That was
fine when I was a kid. Yeah,

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those are nice memories. But now
today I can find any anything I

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can think of that I would want
to play on the show. Right now,

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I can literally find it in seconds
and then play it. It's amazing.

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We live in an amazing time and
it's so bizarre that some people won't

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just embrace it. I mean,
you're you're missing out, especially though when

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it comes to music, you're missing
out. If you just close yourself off,

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you can hear anything you want to
at any times. It's an incredible

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time to be alive. It's kind
of funny because I'm kind of I've found

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myself in almost an opposite category.
I'm always listening to independent artists because I

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get the joy of listening to the
artists that we yeah, that we book

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and stuff. So I always have
that thing going through my playlist on Amazon

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on whatever, right, And just
recently I started listening to some of the

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eighties music that I used to listen
to as a kid because it just kind

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of creeped into my playlist. But
one of the greatest things about doing what

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we do and doing this is getting
to hear different genres, different walks of

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life. I've seen and heard things
I would have never thought of. The

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gentleman that came in that was doing
looping on a viola that was incredible,

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That was incredible. We're surrounded by
so much talent and having the ability to

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just your fingertips go, oh,
I'll try this new thing, or I'll

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listen to this new person is amazing
to me. Yes, I enjoyed flipping

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through albums for me my enjoyment,
and that was mostly going to a British

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store looking for the UK imparts because
they always had maybe one different song,

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they had different liner notes, or
they had different album art and I was

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into that. But as far as
getting to hear music, give me my

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computer any day of the week.
I can go to any band sites,

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I can go to band camp,
I can go to just anything and hear

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any music I never even thought of
or even fathomed in my brain that somebody's

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out there performing and you get drawn
into that really cool new sound, those

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new vocal stylings. There's a lot
more. I think there's a lot.

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The benefit of today's world is that
artistically, the globe is our canvas.

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It's not limited to your little like
we were limited as kids. I was

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limited, very limited. We were
limited to what we heard on the radio

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and what we saw on MTV or
you read it in a newspaper. And

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if you wanted to and if you
wanted to hear stuff outside of the mainstream,

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you had to dig a little bit
deeper, you know, you had

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to listen to maybe you know,
if you were in an area where there

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was a college radio station, you
know, you could listen to college radio

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or watch on Sunday nights MTV at
a show called one hundred and twenty Minutes,

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which was you know, more alternative, you know, before mainstream became

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alternative, you know, pregrunge.
You know, so you had to dig

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a little deeper. But that's no
different than now. Like I think now

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there's probably all these people walking around
going, oh, I don't like new

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music. Yeah I heard a Taylor
Swift song and I didn't like it.

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And it's like, again, dig
a little deeper. If you're only paying

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attention to what you're hearing in the
mainstream, you know, it takes a

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minimum amount of effort to just dig
a little deeper and you can find whatever

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it is that appeals to you.
That's very true, Yes, very very

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true. I mean all we could
do was maybe go to a Battle of

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the bands or some local venue and
get a taste of one too maybe,

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you know, just that's all you
could get, yeah, when we were

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younger, But now you can get
anything. Yeah, literally anything. There's

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zero excuse. It's pure laziness is
the only excuse for for not being able

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to take in the music. Yeah, I mean if you want it,

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if you want it, that's what
I mean. As far as what I

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say lazy, I mean yeah,
if you really want to hear different things,

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you literally just have to go turn
on your computer. Yeah, go

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to YouTube and hit music and see
what flows up. Absolutely absolutely, if

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you'd like to join us today on
the program, the studio line is open

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have a busy chat room this morning,

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Uh, but uh, feel free to

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five six seven uh plug two before
I forget tomorrow night at it'll be seven

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pm Eastern time. These guys are
on the West coast four pm Pacific.

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Uh. I'm going to be a
guest skyping into the uh Trevor's Happy Hour

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podcast. I think they might also
be carried on an AM station uh in

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Uh cool, I think so.
But I'm gonna be skyping into that.

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I was invited. Trevor Garner invited
me. I've I just know Kevin I

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mean sorry, not Kevin Trevor online. He wanted to, Uh, he

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wanted me to skype in and talk
about the recent Darryl holl And John Oates

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legal drama and some other and some
other elements. I guess he's got somebody

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else who's going to be joining us, who's also going to be talking about,

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uh, you know, legal battles
and music and you know, and

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it's always over money, uh these
things that happened in the music industry.

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But uh Trevor invited me to uh
to skype in. So that will be

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if you go to uh Trevor's Happy
Hour dot com. That's the website where

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you'll be able to stream it live
and then I think he puts it up

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on YouTube after So I will be
a guest tomorrow evening at seven pm Eastern

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Time on Trevor's Happy Hour and looking
forward to that. I originally met him

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online because I had posted something regarding
our old friend, the original No wait,

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I'm the original green host on not
even a show. Newer listeners won't

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know what this is about. But
that's right, he's the stone Green host.

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But yes, our old, our
old friend Tom Gully, who now

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hates me. He he does.
He despises me, Tom Gully from the

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Tom Gully Show. But I have
nothing but nothing but love for Tom,

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the only person I've ever met that
hates you. No, I think there's

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probably you know, I said that
I've ever met that you've ever met.

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Yes, I'm not the world here, right, that's true. I'm sure

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there are other people. I don't
mind. I mean, I you know,

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I like having haters. Actually it's
kind of fun. But but Tom

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is a strange case. Though,
he's a very strange case. His whole

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reason for being so angry with me
to begin with was having Jesseps from Pod

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Awful on the show. Uh.
This was a couple of years ago,

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your show, on my show.
You know, Jesse had called in and

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and uh, Tom. Tom was
very offended and disapproving of that. And

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now their buddies, which is even
weirder. They're they're they're they're buds,

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even weirder weird. They had an
eight hour marathon show together. If you

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want to call it a show,
I think it was. It was more

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than just being public with their their
relationship. Yes, it's definitely interesting.

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They have a they have a great
chemistry. It's interesting, you know,

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and uh, Jesse has declared that
Tom is now a friend of the show,

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officially of pod awful, so you
know, and I kind of feel

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like I I helped bring them together. Actually, well you did, but

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uh, you know, but Tom
is, uh something good come up.

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But I've tried to call into Tom's
show a couple of times and he gets

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He's very upset with me. So
I went into his chat room once and

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he attacked. I remember that he
was. He was very mean to you.

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It was very weird. It was
very mean. I got a back

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up a minute. I have a
question for you, because sometime I was

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wanting to understand about the Hall and
Oates issue. Yeah, is Hall refuse

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Is Hall refusing to buy or Oates
refusing to sell to Hall. It seems

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that I don't know if Hall wants
to buy Oates's steak in the company.

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Necessarily he just buyt But the problem
is Hall does not want John Oates wants

408
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:41,839
to sell his steak in whole Oates
Enterprises to primary Wave right, and which

409
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,759
in fairness, they both sold shares
to in the past. But I think

410
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:52,839
Oates selling the primary Wave would give
primary Wave a controlling interest in the company.

411
00:30:53,079 --> 00:30:59,279
So why doesn't Hall just buy it? Maybe he's not willing to pay

412
00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:02,240
what primary Wave was paying. Well, maybe that's too bad, too sad

413
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,640
for him. Maybe he's just angry
because his accusation is that Oates went behind

414
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:11,359
his back and that it is in
their partnership agreement that you can't just go

415
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:18,720
and uh show their their business agreement, their partnership agreement to to a third

416
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:26,000
party without permission and uh right,
that's part of what Hall's attorneys are accusing

417
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,720
Oates of doing. Uh. It's
it's all very initially in team Hall.

418
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:37,079
But this this point matters to me
greatly because if he's refusing to buy it

419
00:31:37,119 --> 00:31:40,480
for himself, he doesn't have a
right to walk into a court and say,

420
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,480
excuse me, I want to I
want a restraining order to stop Oats

421
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,960
from being able to sell his portion. If it's Oats going, I'm not

422
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,480
going to sell it to you.
I'm gonna like totally, you know,

423
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:59,319
su over and and sell the controlling
shares to this company, and they're going

424
00:31:59,359 --> 00:32:04,799
to own what you wrote, what
you did, your work. So that

425
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:09,519
matters greatly to me whether or not
Hall is refusing to buy or not being

426
00:32:09,599 --> 00:32:14,599
allowed to buy. But Hall also
claims in recent years that Oates has been

427
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:19,519
very mean to him, which is
shocking to me. That's nothing to do

428
00:32:19,599 --> 00:32:22,599
At the end of the day,
we're talking business here, and controlling shares

429
00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:24,440
is nothing to do with anything.
Whether you're mean, nice or whatever.

430
00:32:24,799 --> 00:32:30,279
Oates has been a mean man,
does it matter, does not matter if

431
00:32:30,319 --> 00:32:35,519
he's been mean or not. In
your opinion, that has nothing to do

432
00:32:35,559 --> 00:32:38,319
with the business arrangement. The business
arrangement and all the body of work that

433
00:32:38,359 --> 00:32:43,400
they have. See, I'm firmly
and I in every instance, I'm going

434
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,240
to side with the artists to control
their own creations, certain songs, their

435
00:32:46,279 --> 00:32:52,400
own sounds that should belong to the
artists. It's part of the artist as

436
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:58,960
far as I'm concerned. So initially, hearing this story, my instinct is

437
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,960
to say no, of course,
we don't want a third party company controlling

438
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,440
all of this wonderful artistic music,
you know, decades and decades of work,

439
00:33:08,759 --> 00:33:13,440
instead of the actual artists who did
it. But if the actual artist

440
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,039
who did it is refusing to buy
it, you can't force the other guy

441
00:33:16,079 --> 00:33:20,920
to stay in the game. Oh
it hasn't right to get out. Oh

442
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,480
it hasn't right to say, you
know what, I'm done. I want

443
00:33:22,519 --> 00:33:27,079
to take my money and go retire, go do my own thing. But

444
00:33:27,359 --> 00:33:31,319
if it's in the partnership agreement that
neither can sell without the other's approval,

445
00:33:32,559 --> 00:33:37,640
that's a different story. You willingly
engaged in that agreements, and it's a

446
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,640
contractual obligation. So yeah, you're
going to have to go to court if

447
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:45,200
you want to change any part of
that because you are bound over by that.

448
00:33:45,599 --> 00:33:49,839
Yes, so again, yes,
well just quickly, well look at

449
00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:52,759
these are not now, these are
not comments in the chat room, to

450
00:33:52,759 --> 00:33:55,200
be clear, these are comments on
the YouTube video. We posted the clip

451
00:33:55,319 --> 00:34:00,559
of us discussing this last week in
great depth on YouTube, and if you're

452
00:34:00,599 --> 00:34:04,079
looking for it on YouTube, it's
titled Matt Connerton and Jen Coffee discussed Darrell

453
00:34:04,119 --> 00:34:08,719
All versus John Oates fight and legal
drama, but just a few comments that

454
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:16,960
people made at what's the fuss for
three three to two said quote, I

455
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:23,599
don't know why I'm saying quote said
the following, this is a very sad

456
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:28,239
situation. I hope they can come
to some better agreement. Yeah. I'm

457
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,760
fifty five years old and I've been
a fan of Hall and Oates ever since

458
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,280
I was like twelve years old.
I just wanted to mention when you were

459
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,920
talking about a song that would go
for selling KFC, I remembered. In

460
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:44,039
November twenty seventeen, Hollan Oates song
You Make My Dreams was used in an

461
00:34:44,119 --> 00:34:52,840
Applebee's commercial to sell dinners. Applebee's
introduces its tipped steak and twisted potatoes combinations

462
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,119
to the tune of Hall and Oates's
classic You Make My Dreams. Diners can

463
00:34:57,199 --> 00:35:02,400
choose their steak topping and tater to
or mashed potato side for their own dream

464
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:07,199
worthy meal. I have no memory
of that. I don't remember the commercial,

465
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,119
but You Make My Dreams was in
the news within the past year or

466
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:15,440
two years because it topped I think
one billion streams on Spotify. Speaking of

467
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:22,400
Spotify, which we were talking about
earlier, multi Peter Cool on the YouTube

468
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,599
video commented, H and O.
Fans have known Daryl and John have been

469
00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:30,719
on thin ice for decades. It
became obvious by the way they never acknowledged

470
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,360
each other on stage during the nineties. I've lost a lot of respect for

471
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,199
Daryl because of this. If your
business partner wants to cash out his shares,

472
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:42,559
he's entitled to do so. Your
only recourse is to better the offer

473
00:35:42,639 --> 00:35:46,840
John has on the table case closed. I found the commercial. Oh you

474
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,440
did yet I did, and I
just sent it to you. Oh okay,

475
00:35:50,519 --> 00:35:52,960
so you'll be able to check that
out. All right, Very good,

476
00:35:52,039 --> 00:36:00,320
very good. At Dip Do Dip
Do seven seventy five, I apologize

477
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:05,039
I dip to if I didn't say
that correctly. It always comes down to

478
00:36:05,199 --> 00:36:09,559
money. It becomes contentious when there
is an imbalance in talent and production.

479
00:36:12,199 --> 00:36:15,920
And at Sydney, I'm sorry.
At Cindy one O eight five eight said

480
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:21,599
egomaniac, grow up. Now,
that's a little cryptic. I don't know

481
00:36:21,639 --> 00:36:27,360
if Cindy one eight five eight is
calling Darryl Hall an egomaniac or calling me

482
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,800
an egomaniac. I don't know,
but like I said, if you know

483
00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:34,760
she's calling me that, that's fine. It's like I do, think it's

484
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,440
kind of fun to have some haters. Oh no, it wasn't KFC,

485
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:43,760
so I don't know. Oh,
it's not KFC. Sapplebee's right. No,

486
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,639
Freedola, Pepsi Cola Beverages. Oh. This is a plot of a

487
00:36:47,679 --> 00:36:52,800
new holiday TV ad from Freedola and
Pepsi Co Beverages titled Melt. The Spot,

488
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:58,719
which includes Hollandolds Timeless classic You Would
Make My Dreams Come True as it's

489
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,360
soundtracked, is part of a turn
of the two brands collaborative Share More Joy

490
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:07,920
campaign. So that's what that was
all about. But it does surprise me.

491
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,760
I had honestly never know that any
of their work was used in a

492
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,400
commercial. Oh yeah, I know. It was jarring the first time I

493
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,519
heard Prince at a commercial because I
know that he wouldn't have liked that.

494
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,800
I don't think he would have liked
that at all. Yeah, I don't

495
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:27,280
know, but yeah, if you
don't control your publishing, people can take

496
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,119
your music and do as they You
know, whoever owned does control the publishing,

497
00:37:30,159 --> 00:37:34,159
whoever owns it can, which comes
back to the root of this,

498
00:37:34,159 --> 00:37:37,760
this this issue, this case.
If it's about controlling their own body of

499
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:42,639
creative work, and Oates is refusing
to sell the Hall, that's one thing.

500
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,920
If Hall is refusing to buy it, that's another. Well, I'm

501
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:52,199
sure we'll learn more than the coming
days. Also too, speaking of food,

502
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:58,239
that reminds me because it was quite
the spread at bonfire the other night,

503
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,199
Wednesday night, the miracle on Elm
Street, very successful, very well

504
00:38:02,199 --> 00:38:07,000
attended. I have no idea what
any final tallies were, as far as

505
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:12,280
I heard on the move on the
Morning Show that it was around ten thousand

506
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,400
dollars. Well, that's got to
be. That's got to be last year.

507
00:38:15,519 --> 00:38:19,360
Oh it does, I remember here
because I was listening to the Morning

508
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,159
show. Yeah, it did beat
last year. Absolutely. It was amazing,

509
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:27,159
what an amazing night. I saw
so many people. The whole place

510
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,719
was packed and it was ACKed full
of people that were there to support the

511
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,599
kids here in Manchester. And I
at one point I had taken a picture

512
00:38:35,159 --> 00:38:38,320
around this Christmas tree at the front
where people were dropping presents for kids of

513
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:43,039
all ages, and it was like
a it was piled, it was deep,

514
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,000
it was my understanding was this,
and even it was an even bigger

515
00:38:46,039 --> 00:38:51,920
one at another location. So it
looks like it really feels like the city

516
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,760
came out for its own. Yeah. Absolutely, it was excellentency and the

517
00:38:54,800 --> 00:39:01,039
food was amazing. Yes, yes, somebody made oh what are those pastry

518
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:10,320
I love I can't think of the
word for it, the deep fried pastryanadasas

519
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:15,880
somebody brought in these empanadas that were
amazing, those amazing hot dogs and just

520
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:20,679
everything. Yeah. I really enjoyed
the pizza. The pizza was really good.

521
00:39:20,679 --> 00:39:22,599
Of course I always enjoy the pizza, this is true. But any

522
00:39:22,639 --> 00:39:25,840
right way to find you what I
had to find you is like oneer where

523
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:30,400
Matt is, oh yes, pizza, but you were right there. But

524
00:39:30,559 --> 00:39:35,119
congratulations too of course Matt Kushane,
who always has a great job, and

525
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,480
Peter White obviously also a big part
of the miracle on Elm Street. I

526
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:44,000
know Jeff nine is heavily involved in
it, and everybody who's involved in it

527
00:39:44,039 --> 00:39:46,400
who I'm not aware of their involvement. Congratulations to everybody. I want to

528
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,960
go shopping with them, very very
successful event. Yeah, they get to

529
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,840
go shopping for the kids too,
with the money that gets raised, Yeah.

530
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,519
Yeah, and it's really cool.
Yeah, I want to get to

531
00:39:55,559 --> 00:40:04,480
go do that. Yeah, absolutely
absolutely, also too well mention Thursday night.

532
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,679
I had to think for a second, this week is a blur.

533
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,039
We were at the hop Knot for
a wonderful event there. Now, usually

534
00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:14,400
Thursday nights are very busy at the
Hopknot, and this Thursday was no different.

535
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,320
But usually Thursday night is Trivia Night
at the hop Knot, hosted by

536
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,119
the great Broderick Lang, and it's
a very successful feature there. But I

537
00:40:20,159 --> 00:40:22,280
guess this week Broderick I don't know
if he was on vacation or something,

538
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:27,760
so they did something different. So
they had drag Bingo and it was very

539
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,320
cool. We were there and had
a wonderful time. Yeah, and I

540
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,039
thought it was a great and it
was, and you had I could not

541
00:40:35,199 --> 00:40:38,280
believe that you'd never played bingo before. I had never played bingo before.

542
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:44,000
I went through school and never played
bingo. I don't know, Yeah,

543
00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:47,639
we just never played bingo. Is
that something that's being done in schools usually.

544
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,880
Yeah. I mean, well when
I it was like it was a

545
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,440
bingo game that had to do with
education. Oh okay, But like I

546
00:40:54,559 --> 00:41:00,719
just I was just surprised that you'd
actually never played a bingo game, not

547
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,719
that I could recall. No,
never played bingo in my life. It

548
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,320
was a lot of fun though.
It was a lot of fun well,

549
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,559
and it was another first for me. I'd never been to a drag event

550
00:41:08,599 --> 00:41:13,199
either. Yeah, that's true.
That was my second drag event. Yeah,

551
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,119
yeah, equally as fun as the
first. And the last one was

552
00:41:15,119 --> 00:41:20,880
a drag Bindo too. Yeah.
Yeah, a lot of fun to be

553
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,280
have. Absolutely great crowd. It
was really busy in there, yeah,

554
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:28,599
which was awesome. Yeah. And
again, where was Matt eating a pretzel

555
00:41:28,679 --> 00:41:32,920
pizza? Yes? Yes, And
we ran into Krispy Chris Porrier, who's

556
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,119
going to be on the show soon. He's been on the show before.

557
00:41:36,159 --> 00:41:39,079
I think he's also been on the
morning show, local comedian, and he's

558
00:41:39,079 --> 00:41:43,159
bringing a couple other comedians whether I
can't I can't remember if that's next week

559
00:41:43,199 --> 00:41:45,800
or the weekend. No, I
believe they're coming in at the twenty third

560
00:41:45,559 --> 00:41:50,760
of the morning, Yes, right
before Race pipes in from the UK.

561
00:41:51,199 --> 00:41:55,639
Absolutely. Let's say hello to everybody
in the Facebook live chat. Like I

562
00:41:55,639 --> 00:42:00,880
said, it is a busy chat
room this morning. Let's see Eric Pilcher

563
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:02,079
of course, joins us in the
chat room. In the second hour.

564
00:42:02,119 --> 00:42:07,000
We're going to hear Eric's classic film
review this week. The subject is a

565
00:42:07,079 --> 00:42:09,960
Bronx Tale, one of my favorite
films. Jenny, you're in there,

566
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:15,840
of course him everywhere. Jay fed
and Melanie Liberty both from of course,

567
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:20,320
the great State of Vermont, and
we were talking, actually, I think

568
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,280
it was on Retrospectro Radio last night
with Paul C. We were talking about

569
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:28,280
how loyal they are to the station
and all the shows here. We really

570
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:32,719
appreciate that. Bruce from Legion of
Solace joins us in the Facebook live chat.

571
00:42:34,199 --> 00:42:38,960
Great band and also very loyal.
Hello Bruce. Run Like Wolves in

572
00:42:39,039 --> 00:42:45,079
the Facebook live chat, very excited
about Kenny Troon and says Hello, Jenny.

573
00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:49,519
Hello. DJ Steve in the Facebook
live chat says good morning, Matt

574
00:42:49,559 --> 00:42:53,119
and Jenny. Happy Saturday morning.
Run Like Thieves says, Kenny is one

575
00:42:53,119 --> 00:42:58,440
of the most talented people we know. Kid plays drums, guitar, sings,

576
00:42:58,559 --> 00:43:01,599
writes amazing songs, also wraps.
Yeah, I did not know that.

577
00:43:02,519 --> 00:43:05,920
I didn't know that he Yeah,
I did not know he played so

578
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,440
many instruments. So I'm really looking
forward to meeting him. Anyway, because

579
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,559
I thought his music is great.
Yeah, I had no idea until they

580
00:43:10,559 --> 00:43:14,079
type that. Yeah, if you're
just joining us and you don't know,

581
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,840
Kenny Troon will be here in the
third hour today at eleven am and he's

582
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,599
gonna play live for us in studio, and we have some studio tracks as

583
00:43:21,639 --> 00:43:24,599
well. Run Like Thieves was was
with us in studio a couple of weeks

584
00:43:24,639 --> 00:43:28,320
ago, and you can find that
in the archive. That was also great.

585
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,159
They came in and played live,
just amazing. Referring to Eric's film

586
00:43:32,199 --> 00:43:37,599
review of a Bronx Tale, one
of my favorite lines from my absolute favorite

587
00:43:37,639 --> 00:43:42,480
scene in the movie, now you
can't leave. I think he actually says

588
00:43:42,519 --> 00:43:47,400
now you now you can't leave?
Yeah, and Eric says, sorry,

589
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:52,639
I couldn't include that. That the
bar fight scene in the h in the

590
00:43:52,679 --> 00:43:55,480
review. Ah, that is such
a great scene though. I think that's

591
00:43:55,519 --> 00:43:59,599
my favorite scene from the entire film. And we're going to be seeing Run

592
00:43:59,679 --> 00:44:04,480
Like Thieves, Yes, in January
seventh. We'll be seeing Run Like Thieves

593
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,960
at the Conquered Pavilion. Yes.
So if you're going, please come find

594
00:44:07,039 --> 00:44:09,599
us and say hi. We'd love
to see you in person. But I'm

595
00:44:09,639 --> 00:44:14,920
really looking forward to that. Yep, we mentioned spinal Tap earlier too.

596
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,679
And Bruce from Region of Solace it
says, if the rumors are true,

597
00:44:17,079 --> 00:44:21,800
a spinal tap sequel is coming.
Yes, yes, I am so hopeful

598
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,199
for that. I've seen those rumors
and I'm really hoping the true Yeah.

599
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:30,440
And DJ Sieves confirms it. He
says, that's definitely coming out. That'll

600
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,800
be all right. We gotta go
see that on the big screen. Yeah,

601
00:44:34,639 --> 00:44:39,400
we need the big sound. Oh
yeah. Absolutely. Dan Fallon from

602
00:44:39,519 --> 00:44:44,960
Run Like Thieves. This is referring
to our conversation earlier about technology and embracing

603
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,440
technology. Dan would literally embrace it, he says, I would hug a

604
00:44:47,559 --> 00:44:53,280
robot. I would to somebody else
had mentioned Rosie from the Jutsons, I

605
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:58,599
would like my own Rosie. Oh
yeah. Bruce from a Legion of Solace

606
00:44:58,679 --> 00:45:04,639
mentioned Rosie. Absolute, I would
love a Rosie. Rosie wash dishes,

607
00:45:05,559 --> 00:45:09,920
Rosie washed the floor. Yeah,
I want a Rosie. Run Like Thieves

608
00:45:10,119 --> 00:45:14,400
says yes, come to the Bank
of Oh, I'm sorry, come to

609
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:19,519
the Bank of New Official. Oh. Oh, I see he's posting the

610
00:45:19,559 --> 00:45:28,280
event in there. Yes, at
the New Hampshire stage upstairs at the Conquered

611
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,440
pavilion. Yeah right, that's right
right downtown. Yeah, yeah, good,

612
00:45:31,519 --> 00:45:35,679
it's a great venue. Carol's a
war which joins the sun, says

613
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,760
good morning, Good morning Carol.
Also Isaac Banks, of course from Greensboro,

614
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:44,679
North Carolina. Isaac Banks says this
evening, I will be performing on

615
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:52,000
Facebook Live online a Saturday evening eighteen
sensational iikeman Breezy, that's me of my

616
00:45:52,159 --> 00:45:58,639
nickname. I will be performing some
cover tunes, no requests, hashtag gen

617
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,960
coffee and hashtag Manton. What do
you mean, no request, no requests,

618
00:46:04,159 --> 00:46:08,800
limitations, laying down the law,
no request. Isaac Banks also says

619
00:46:09,199 --> 00:46:15,039
good, I'm sorry what I say
the nay? Good morning, Victoria Piper,

620
00:46:15,159 --> 00:46:19,760
how are you doing? I will
say that I would hope you can

621
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:25,599
come to the Inner Rhythm Choir concert
at Lindley Park Baptist Church at seven pm

622
00:46:25,639 --> 00:46:30,079
to eight pm inside at the chapel
in Greensboro, North Carolina. I was

623
00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:37,800
gonna say at Walker av I'll tell
you what this this Lindley Park Baptist Church

624
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,800
in Greensboro, North Carolina. It
seems to be a very happening place because

625
00:46:42,159 --> 00:46:45,480
our friend Isaac Banks is always posting
these amazing events that are that are happening

626
00:46:45,519 --> 00:46:50,840
at the Lindley Park Baptist Church and
apparently it's on Walker AF which I didn't

627
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,639
realize. Is that where the wrestling
is? Yes? Is that what the

628
00:46:53,639 --> 00:46:58,280
Hearty's Compound is? Yes, it's
out the Baptist I would like to Yes,

629
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,079
I want to go. I want
to go to the Hardy's Compound to

630
00:47:01,159 --> 00:47:06,440
meet Matt Hardy. Rob Dyon is
in the Facebook live chat. Rob of

631
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,360
course part of the W M and
H family. He as his own show

632
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:15,000
here through the Stage Door Yeah,
Auning Darling and on UH on Thursdays,

633
00:47:15,039 --> 00:47:19,239
he does name that Tune and his
own entertainment report on the Morning Show with

634
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,119
Peter White, which is my favorite. I love late name that too,

635
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:27,519
and I hardly ever get anything right. I stink with titles, but I

636
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,920
like playing it. Isaac Banks also
says, by the way, I will

637
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:38,719
be performing because Steven Servis and I
formed a singing pop group of BB and

638
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:45,519
T what oh which stands for book
beat and true Oh wow, that's snappy.

639
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:50,960
You gotta get you gotta get Lou, You gotta get Lou Pearlman out

640
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:57,440
of out of prison. To promote
that we are performing for karaoke at Hidden

641
00:47:57,559 --> 00:48:04,599
Gate Brewing Place with the DJ.
Energizer is the host for it on December

642
00:48:04,599 --> 00:48:07,360
twenty one, twenty twenty three,
at six thirty to eight thirty pm.

643
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:15,559
So check out at BB and T
on facebook page. Wow, all right,

644
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:22,760
which is a real place. Hiddingate
Brewing is a real place. Well,

645
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:27,639
I'm sure they've got nothing on the
Lindley Baptist Church or whatever it is.

646
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,960
Scott Robinson joins us in the chat, and of course we ran into

647
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:35,079
Scott at the Miracle on Elm Street
at bonfire. Scott says, happy Saturday

648
00:48:35,079 --> 00:48:38,519
morning to my fellow Connorton Heights.
It was a good seeing you guys Wednesday.

649
00:48:38,599 --> 00:48:40,920
Yeah, it was good seeing you
Scott. Wonderful to run into you.

650
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:45,679
There always a pleasure. Miriam Bannis
joins us in the Facebook live chat,

651
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:50,639
says, good morning. Got to
work at the craft Workers Guild so

652
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,599
sadly can't stick around for two weeks
from today I will be able to listen

653
00:48:53,679 --> 00:48:57,719
to the whole show. What is
that the craft Workers Guild? Yeah,

654
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,400
well, the craft Workers Guild is
actually a lot local guild that Miriam has

655
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:06,239
become a member of, where artisans
can go and display their art for sale.

656
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,599
And one of the ways that you
can do that is an exchange of

657
00:49:08,639 --> 00:49:13,199
service. You go and you volunteer
at the shop and work in the shop,

658
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,239
and in exchange you get to Hockeyr
Wares in the shop. And Miriam

659
00:49:16,639 --> 00:49:22,159
is incredibly talented at Origami m I
have earrings that she's made. It's amazing.

660
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:27,880
And she makes these really really cool
boxes that you can get to put

661
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,400
like gifts in. In fact,
she's made them for me to give gifts

662
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:36,119
in. So those are actually available
at the guild. Oh okay, oh

663
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:42,239
very good. You get back to
the community community and you get to share

664
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,679
your your art. Cool. Jackson
Harris, who I believe is also from

665
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:51,039
North Carolina, says, Hello,
Matt Connerton Unleashed. Hello Jackson, Jackson,

666
00:49:51,119 --> 00:49:54,880
find me the Hardy Camp. I'm
sure it's not hard to find.

667
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,599
I'm sure everyone. I'm sure everyone
there knows where it is. Follow the

668
00:49:58,639 --> 00:50:06,000
wrestling. Isaac Banks also says for
the event of a Saturday Evening eighteen sen

669
00:50:06,119 --> 00:50:10,119
sessional, iikman Breezy, is you
can comment to me? Huh yes,

670
00:50:10,599 --> 00:50:14,800
what so if we follow that event
we can comment to him. I can't

671
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:20,239
follow the words, but no requests. See that's me, got a set

672
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:27,360
list I want request no requests saying
it. If you'd like to join us

673
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,719
on the program before we get to
the top of the hour, take a

674
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,960
breakout six o three two five oh
six oh seven. The studio line is

675
00:50:32,039 --> 00:50:39,480
open. Uh six oh three two
five oh six o seven. We should

676
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:44,360
you say hello to Scott Robertson.
Yes, I didn't hear you say.

677
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:49,320
Scott said, we got to see
Scott Robertson. Oh. Mike from Queen

678
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,800
City Cabinetry also in the Facebook live
chat. Mike one of our great sponsors

679
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,880
here at w m n H,
Queen City Cabinetry and the historic Sunbeam Mall

680
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,519
and Mike also joins us. He
wasn't uh here last night, but he

681
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:06,119
is one of our co hosts on
retro Spectrum Radio with poly C, which

682
00:51:06,119 --> 00:51:08,679
you can hear every Friday night from
eight to eleven pm here on wm and

683
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,639
H. And of course if you
miss it, it is in the archive

684
00:51:10,639 --> 00:51:15,960
at wmnhradio dot org. And I
think there's also a replay of it now

685
00:51:15,079 --> 00:51:19,360
on Wednesdays at six pm. I
believe, yes, I know he's at

686
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,840
Wednesday. I'm not positive on the
time. Yeah, check the schedule if

687
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:27,719
you would like. Yes, yes, we actually have Well, I think

688
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,039
we'll save this. Well, we'll
save this for the second hour because we

689
00:51:31,039 --> 00:51:32,840
are close to the top of the
hour. So I think we're gonna play

690
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,719
another Kenny Trouon song and then show
some love to our amazing sponsors. But

691
00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:38,679
when we get an hour number two
we should talk about I don't know how

692
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,719
much time we'll we'll spend on it
necessarily because we have a few things we

693
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,519
could do, but you are correct. Wednesdays at six pm is the replay

694
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:54,440
of Retrospectrum Radio very good Kiss who
is again? I put my bias up

695
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:58,880
front. They are my favorite band
of all time. They just played their

696
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,280
what it was there a farewell show
at the at Madison Square Garden. But

697
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:07,159
a new Kiss era has begun.
Yeah for those of you who don't know.

698
00:52:07,199 --> 00:52:10,239
And yeah, we'll talk about that. We'll get into that in the

699
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,760
second hour. But we are coming
up to the top of the r so

700
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,039
I think we'll play another Kenny Truon
song, and I've got this song Old

701
00:52:16,119 --> 00:52:21,360
News that I really like. He
is our musical guest today and we'll be

702
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:25,199
joining us in the third hour of
the program. But we're gonna take a

703
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,960
break, and then in the second
hour, Yeah, we'll talk about Kiss

704
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,400
and the new era, the changes
there, and of course we'll have Eric

705
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:37,719
Pilchri's classic film review as well.
In the second hour this week the subject

706
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,159
is a Bronx Tale. And then
of course in the third hour, Kenny

707
00:52:39,199 --> 00:52:43,599
Truon will be joining us live in
studio. But let's listen to another song

708
00:52:43,639 --> 00:52:47,119
of his. This is great.
This is called old News from Kenny Trrouon

709
00:52:47,559 --> 00:52:52,159
and you're listening to Matt Connorton unleash. We are live from the studios of

710
00:52:52,280 --> 00:53:06,039
WMNH ninety five point three FM.
Plenty more to come. Hyeah. Yeah,

711
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:22,440
how do you know if you crossed
the line? Yeah? Everything explode?

712
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:36,119
Nothing is fine? Did anything change
while we paused the show? And

713
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:49,159
all it remains? All the skeletal
bones, bone news. Whatever happened,

714
00:53:50,760 --> 00:54:00,400
no clue, it was an accident, Stay true by the essence made you

715
00:54:00,639 --> 00:54:08,639
how lapping? I don't know whatever
happened, no clue, it wasn't nice.

716
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:37,159
Stay despite the essence we made you
that. How did you think this

717
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:50,719
narrative leaked out of my hands?
It's out of your reache. But did

718
00:54:50,960 --> 00:55:00,320
anything change? Is it back to
normal? How would you say? Hey,

719
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:13,519
let you practiced, you bones,
bone news. Whatever happened, no

720
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:22,440
clue, it wasn't an accident.
Stay true despite the assence made you have

721
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:34,440
laughing? No news, whatever happened, no clue it wasn't accident. Stay

722
00:55:34,719 --> 00:56:00,239
true despite the assence we made you
No, that's it. Come on down

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you're listening to wn H command don't
get free man Zeo. Welcome back everybody,

754
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as we cruise into our second hour, New Marrow dose of Matt Connorton

755
00:59:28,079 --> 00:59:32,239
Unleashed and we are live from the
studios of wm NH ninety five point three

756
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FM and Glorious Downtown Manchester, New
Hampshire, also on Comcast Channel six if

757
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you're in Manchester, and hello to
all of our online listeners accross the nation

758
00:59:39,679 --> 00:59:43,920
and around the globe. You can
go to my website Matt Connorton dot com

759
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for all your live streaming options,
social media links, contact info, show

760
00:59:46,239 --> 00:59:50,960
archives, et cetera, et cetera. Today is Saturday, December nine,

761
00:59:51,159 --> 00:59:55,400
twenty twenty three. Jenny is here
as well at the news desk for yes,

762
00:59:55,559 --> 00:59:59,679
Yes, And of course we are
now every if you didn't know,

763
00:59:59,719 --> 01:00:05,039
we are every Saturday morning from nine
am to twelve noon Eastern time, of

764
01:00:05,039 --> 01:00:08,719
course for those of you listening online
from various locations. And uh, we've

765
01:00:08,719 --> 01:00:12,559
got a three hour show. We
are, as I said, entering hour

766
01:00:12,639 --> 01:00:15,559
number two, and we've got plenty
of good stuff coming up for you.

767
01:00:15,079 --> 01:00:19,719
Uh. In a little bit,
uh, part way through the hour,

768
01:00:19,719 --> 01:00:22,320
we're gonna have Eric Pilcher's classic film
review and this week the subject is from

769
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:27,639
nineteen ninety three, A Bronx Tale, one of my all time favorites.

770
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,000
So I really look forward to sharing
Eric's review with you for a popular feature

771
01:00:30,039 --> 01:00:31,800
on the show. And then of
course, in the third hour, we

772
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:36,239
have a great musical guest coming in. Kenny Troon will be here. We

773
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,599
just heard another one of his tracks
a moment ago Old News, one of

774
01:00:39,639 --> 01:00:43,360
his great studio tracks, and he's
going to come in. He'll be live

775
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,159
with us in the third hour,
coming up at eleven am. So really

776
01:00:45,159 --> 01:00:49,840
looking forward to that as well.
If you would like to join us,

777
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,920
you can the studio line is open
six oh three two five oh six oh

778
01:00:53,199 --> 01:00:58,280
seven six three two five oh six
oh seven. You can also text me

779
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:02,079
at six one seven one seven four
four seven six. I'm on social media

780
01:01:02,199 --> 01:01:06,800
at Matt Connorton. You can email
me Matt at Matt Coonnorton dot com,

781
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:10,559
and of course you can interact end
opine in the Facebook live chat. But

782
01:01:10,599 --> 01:01:15,199
the best thing to do so that
we can hear and enjoy your Dulca tones

783
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:19,320
is give us a call at six
oh three two five o six oh seven

784
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:25,719
six o three two five oh six
o seven. Melanie law Liberty from the

785
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:29,920
Great State of Vermont in the chat
room says, my Saturday morning horror movie

786
01:01:30,039 --> 01:01:35,159
is done, So now I'm back. I can't just stop a movie once

787
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,960
I started it. Oh my god, I understand Isaac wanted me to let

788
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:42,400
you know that he'd be right back. I did see that in the chatter

789
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,199
room. Yes, he said,
Jen Coffee, tell hashtag Matt Connorton,

790
01:01:45,239 --> 01:01:50,199
I'll be right back. Oh forgive
me hashtag Matt. You know about will

791
01:01:50,199 --> 01:01:52,639
be right back. You know what
it reminds me of when somebody uh like,

792
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:57,000
like when somebody calls into the show
and says, uh, you know,

793
01:01:57,159 --> 01:02:00,840
uh, tell tell so and so. Somebody else who's on the show.

794
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:04,000
You know, a caller will say
tell so and so. I said

795
01:02:04,039 --> 01:02:07,599
this, and it's like they can
hear you. They have headphones on,

796
01:02:07,639 --> 01:02:12,039
they can hear you. Texas Mike
is in the Facebook live chat yeha and

797
01:02:12,119 --> 01:02:16,280
says, listening from work double shift
today, while we appreciate your dedication such

798
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:21,480
a hot you're a hat worker.
He is incredible work ethic. Absolutely our

799
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:27,800
friend, Texas Mike. Let's see
I suppose oh, let me actually do

800
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:31,760
this too for people just joining us
quick plug. Tomorrow night, I will

801
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:38,320
be skyping into Trevor's Happy Hour if
you go to Trevor's Happy Hour dot com.

802
01:02:39,079 --> 01:02:43,679
Trevor Garner has invited me to appear
on his program, So I will

803
01:02:43,679 --> 01:02:46,920
be skyping in tomorrow evening to talk
about and we touched on it again in

804
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:51,599
the first hour this week. We
had an extensive conversation about it last week,

805
01:02:51,599 --> 01:02:55,239
of course, but the current legal
debacle going on between Darryl Hall and

806
01:02:55,480 --> 01:03:00,360
John Oates and seems the whole world
is talking about it. But I've been

807
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:06,239
invited to discuss the issue tomorrow night
on Trevor's Happy Hour Trevor's Happy Hour dot

808
01:03:06,239 --> 01:03:08,760
com. They go live at four
pm. Apparently they're on the West coast

809
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:15,039
four pm Pacific, which would be
seven pm Eastern time, so tune in

810
01:03:15,039 --> 01:03:16,840
for that. And from what I
understand, Trevor's going to post the segment

811
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:20,960
on YouTube, so if you don't
get to hear it live, you'll be

812
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:24,519
able to you'll be able to watch
it later. So I'm very excited about

813
01:03:24,559 --> 01:03:29,880
that. Let's see. Well,
speaking of exciting now, Kiss, of

814
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:34,920
course my favorite band. They just
wrapped up the End of the Road tour,

815
01:03:37,039 --> 01:03:40,840
but something happened at the They did
two nights at Madison Square Garden in

816
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:45,079
New York City to finish out the
tour the End of the Road, and

817
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:52,400
at the end of the second show, the digital avatars were unveiled. This

818
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:58,320
explains that this is from the Verge
dot com. Kiss debuts immortal quote unquote

819
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:03,519
digital avatars and plans to go fully
virtual. Says here, Kiss has been

820
01:04:04,239 --> 01:04:09,559
on a really, really long tour. The biggest glam rock band of all

821
01:04:09,599 --> 01:04:14,159
time has been playing it's End of
the Road tour for the last four years.

822
01:04:14,239 --> 01:04:17,960
And by the way, part of
that is because COVID interrupted and you

823
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:26,159
know To their credit, Kiss took
the pandemic very seriously, not to rehash

824
01:04:26,199 --> 01:04:29,119
that, but not everyone took it
as seriously as they should have. But

825
01:04:29,679 --> 01:04:32,679
so you know, the tour was
interrupted, obviously, and they just wrapped

826
01:04:32,719 --> 01:04:35,960
up the final show of its final
farewell tour in New York City at Madison

827
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:42,679
Square Garden on Friday. Kiss has
done several farewell now. See is this

828
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,639
drives me nuts when I see this
and I hear people say this Kiss has

829
01:04:45,679 --> 01:04:48,840
done several farewell tours, but this
time might be for good. That is

830
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:53,960
not true. They did a farewell
tour in two thousand and one into two

831
01:04:54,039 --> 01:05:00,159
thousand and two of the original lineup
of the band, and then they,

832
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:05,920
like a lot of like many many
many artists do, they unretired relatively quickly

833
01:05:06,199 --> 01:05:10,679
with a new lineup. Uh And
for the past twenty years, Ace Frehley

834
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,800
and Peter Cris have not been in
the band. It's been instead Tommy Thayer

835
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,039
and Eric Singer, along with of
course Jean Simmons and Paul Stanley who have

836
01:05:16,119 --> 01:05:20,199
always been in Kiss. And then
they announced the end of the road tour.

837
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:25,920
Yeah, it was like four years
ago now, but that's that's it.

838
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:29,519
They've They've done two farewell tours,
the the what was actually the farewell

839
01:05:29,559 --> 01:05:32,159
tour of the original lineup, and
then this, which is definitely because you

840
01:05:32,199 --> 01:05:35,039
know, Geene Simmons is seventy five
years old, He's not going to be

841
01:05:35,119 --> 01:05:39,119
continuing to run around in those uh
well he can't run around in them,

842
01:05:39,119 --> 01:05:42,719
but those those big, huge monster
boots that he wears. Something happened to

843
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:46,039
Paul Stanley during the tour. They
had to cancel a couple of shows in

844
01:05:46,079 --> 01:05:51,079
Canada because he got the flu I
think, but yeah, there's you know,

845
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,679
well, you know, I mean
they're older now, I mean,

846
01:05:53,679 --> 01:05:56,719
you know, they're in their seventies
and you know, things, things go

847
01:05:56,840 --> 01:06:00,679
wrong, and but you know,
it's like this enable them to be young

848
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:05,119
forever. Yes, yes, the
avatars are younger, it says here.

849
01:06:05,119 --> 01:06:10,119
At the end of the show,
after Kiss finished plane its last song,

850
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:14,320
rock and Roll All Night, they
disappeared in a hail of fire and smoke.

851
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,000
After the smoke faded away, the
lights went down, and on the

852
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:20,880
screen beyond the stage, a camera
zoomed across a spooky lake on some fantastic

853
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:26,800
planet toward the silhouettes of four figures. The new digital avatars of Kiss in

854
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:30,559
what I suppose must be their final
form. Then Paul Stanley shouts, Kiss

855
01:06:30,679 --> 01:06:34,239
Army, your love, your power
has made us immortal. The new Kiss

856
01:06:34,239 --> 01:06:39,719
era starts. Now, another of
holograms. It's like a hol of deck.

857
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:45,000
Yes, Star Trek brought the light. Yes, let's see another one.

858
01:06:45,119 --> 01:06:48,280
Oh, there's videos online. There's
another video, and they're posted in

859
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:51,960
the article. Here shows a cooler
aspect of this portion of the show,

860
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:58,559
translucent screens with shots of the band
projected onto them, leading I'm sorry,

861
01:06:58,679 --> 01:07:04,360
lending the show a decided futuristic blade
runner feel the avatars quote performed a song.

862
01:07:04,679 --> 01:07:08,719
Then the video ended and left the
audience with a picture of the four

863
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:15,960
avatars under the stylized Kiss logo,
superimposed with the phrase a new era begins.

864
01:07:15,599 --> 01:07:17,960
The new era, of course,
is one of making money from the

865
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:23,719
avatars. The company behind the show, Pophouse Entertainment, has already been doing

866
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:30,000
so with young digital versions of Abba
in its Abba Voyage show for over a

867
01:07:30,079 --> 01:07:32,840
year. Kiss a band that has
doggedly merchandised the image for half a century.

868
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,760
Yeah, Kiss is the most heavily
merchandised band in history. I think

869
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:40,840
the Beatles are the second seems like
a good fit for such a partnership.

870
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:45,760
Pophouse said in a press release that
it will put on immersive avatar powered concerts

871
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:51,599
using kisses, industrial light, and
magic created avatars. Watching big acts like

872
01:07:51,679 --> 01:07:58,280
Kiss use digital recreations of themselves isn't
surprising. After all, these are people

873
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:00,360
who have made a great deal of
money off and image they've created, so

874
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:04,800
why not keep that money faucet open? Do people really want to gooteate a

875
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:10,159
quote unquote live show with no live
performers? Yeah, I think they absolutely

876
01:08:10,239 --> 01:08:15,320
do. Bloomberg reported that those Abba
avatar shows have been pulling in two million

877
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:19,960
dollars every week, and Variety wrote
last week that the Eras Tour concert video

878
01:08:20,239 --> 01:08:25,279
had passed two hundred and fifty million
dollars in worldwide box office sales. Kiss

879
01:08:25,279 --> 01:08:29,119
and its avatars could do just fine. For more about the band's future.

880
01:08:29,159 --> 01:08:31,359
Oh and there's there's a link to
the video which there's a twenty two minute

881
01:08:31,399 --> 01:08:35,319
video with an interview that kind of
explains it to the Abba. Tickets are

882
01:08:35,319 --> 01:08:39,920
going for a little over one hundred
dollars apiece, and according to what I'm

883
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:45,840
reading, the production has been ninety
nine percent sold out. Every night for

884
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:49,239
the past fifteen months. Yeah,
so this is clearly the market. Yeah.

885
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:54,880
You know what's interesting is the science
about it, how they build this

886
01:08:54,880 --> 01:09:01,039
thing. Yeah, a call.
Our friend Mike Doyle is online. Hey

887
01:09:01,079 --> 01:09:06,079
Mike, hey man, how you
doing good? How are you very good?

888
01:09:06,119 --> 01:09:11,680
Hey? Jenny, good morning.
You sound different in the morning,

889
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,840
I do. Yeah. Your voice, your your voice, your voice is

890
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,359
deeper. Yeah, I think I
think that's I think that's true for many

891
01:09:18,399 --> 01:09:23,960
of us. But yes, you're
you'res is obvious. That's my my bird

892
01:09:24,079 --> 01:09:29,840
Land, my Bert Land cast voice. Oh yes, hey, I wanted

893
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:31,880
to say a couple of things.
I wanted to say. Congratulations on your

894
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:35,039
new time slot. Thank you,
thank you. You know, for many

895
01:09:35,159 --> 01:09:40,640
years I always thought your afternoon show
two hours wasn't enough. Mm hmm,

896
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:44,159
I just did for some reason.
You do things and you and you run

897
01:09:44,159 --> 01:09:47,079
out of time, you always use
an extra hour. So I think this

898
01:09:47,239 --> 01:09:53,000
new three hour thing might might fall
right into your wheelhouse. Yeah, give

899
01:09:53,039 --> 01:09:57,800
you, give you a little more
flexibility. And so congratulations on the new

900
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:00,479
time slot. Is Jenny going to
be doing it all the time with you?

901
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,199
Yeah, as long as she's willing
to keep showing up with me.

902
01:10:02,279 --> 01:10:06,880
On Saturdays, yes, are most
of the time. I take chocolate and

903
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:15,079
flowers to show my age a little
bit. I always I was having this

904
01:10:15,159 --> 01:10:20,039
discussion about a week ago about how
technology is passing by people who are in

905
01:10:20,079 --> 01:10:25,600
my age group, you know,
sixty years older, and just the things

906
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:30,119
that are coming up more and more
technology wise, and we're just lost,

907
01:10:30,399 --> 01:10:33,840
you know what I mean? Yeah, younger in the mid crowds like you

908
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:40,760
guys get it and we don't.
So I think it's quite I think it's

909
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:44,840
do you feel do you feel like
a pressure to try to keep up with

910
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,079
it? Or do you or do
you just kind of say, I mean

911
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:50,319
from I'm not asking you to speak
for everyone in your age group, Mike,

912
01:10:50,399 --> 01:10:55,000
but like from your personal perspective,
do you do you try to keep

913
01:10:55,079 --> 01:10:57,760
up with it or or are you
just kind of like, you know,

914
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:01,760
that's okay if some of the technology
passes me by, that's all right.

915
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,359
I mean, how do you how
do you feel about it personally? Yeah?

916
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:08,000
I don't. I don't try to
dive into it, but I do

917
01:11:08,119 --> 01:11:12,439
want to know about it, and
so I use the reference of my thirty

918
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:15,680
one year old daughter who's a school
teacher and knows you know every flip and

919
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:21,000
number and everything you can dial and
yeah, whatever, so I ask her,

920
01:11:21,239 --> 01:11:25,960
you know you cheat a little bit, and yeah, for instance,

921
01:11:26,319 --> 01:11:29,079
for instance, two things this morning
you were talking about. I just flipped

922
01:11:29,119 --> 01:11:32,560
on and two things you were talking
about. For somebody who doesn't do social

923
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:38,000
media, I have no idea what
hashtag is. Oh, I hear it

924
01:11:38,039 --> 01:11:42,479
all the time, right, I
believe it has something. I don't even

925
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:45,680
want to try to try to figure
out what it is, but maybe you

926
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:48,119
can, maybe you could tell me. I mean it says basically, a

927
01:11:48,119 --> 01:11:53,960
hashtag is when you put the number
sign in front of something so that it's

928
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:57,560
it's kind of highlights it. Yeah, yeah, it highlights it. So

929
01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:00,039
when you see when you see that
hashtag, you know that number sign before

930
01:12:00,119 --> 01:12:04,199
something, you know that that what
whatever is related, whatever piece of content

931
01:12:04,279 --> 01:12:08,840
is related to that hashtag, has
something to do with that specific subject.

932
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:15,600
In theory, somebody you know,
you're all going to say on that same

933
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:21,159
subject kind of thing. If somebody
searches that particular hashtag, then in dairy

934
01:12:21,279 --> 01:12:26,840
you pop up right, I gotcha. Yeah, And that and that leads

935
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:30,439
me into the avatar, which you
were just talking about. And I'm going

936
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:34,760
what the hell is for real?
Right, Yeah, it's wild. Yeah,

937
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:39,000
no, I understand it is.
I've heard of it. And is

938
01:12:39,039 --> 01:12:44,319
it the same as a little while
back there was a couple of I think

939
01:12:44,319 --> 01:12:46,600
it was Lady Gaga and and uh
oh, I know what you're thinking,

940
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:53,960
And who is it that's the the
holographic images that they bring up this the

941
01:12:54,039 --> 01:13:00,319
thing with them passed away. Oh
yeah, yeah, that's civil it's similar,

942
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:06,479
but I think it's I think it's
different in some perspectives because when I

943
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:11,760
was watching videos on how they do
this, I was watching videos a kiss

944
01:13:12,359 --> 01:13:16,199
doing the work. They had to
actually wear special suits and helmets that have

945
01:13:16,279 --> 01:13:23,439
electronic markers on them that get filmed
while they're playing their instruments and moving around,

946
01:13:24,159 --> 01:13:29,680
so those movements can get pulled into
the computer program. Yeah, it's

947
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,359
kind of similar, I think to
the technology they use for video games.

948
01:13:32,399 --> 01:13:38,000
When you have, like say a
video game that's based on wrestling, you

949
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:43,000
know, they have the wrestlers actually
go and when they're creating the video game,

950
01:13:43,199 --> 01:13:46,239
you know, they have to put
on all this equipment and then they

951
01:13:46,239 --> 01:13:49,880
go and perform the wrestling moves and
they film them for the video game with

952
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:55,560
the performer wearing all this stuff and
it's yeah, the technology is interesting,

953
01:13:55,600 --> 01:14:00,560
but yeah, what Jenny was referring
to those video of Kiss basically performing concert

954
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:04,399
in this studio where there they've got
all this equipment on and and they're being

955
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:10,600
filmed, uh for and then I
guess that performance is then transferred to the

956
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:14,840
avatars. And it's all a bit
beyond me. You can google it and

957
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:19,119
actually find some images, the images
of Abba wearing these suits as well doing

958
01:14:19,159 --> 01:14:24,479
their thing to get turned into these
avatars. But they're using younger versions of

959
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:28,199
themselves for the imagery, like they
get to pick their best self from their

960
01:14:28,199 --> 01:14:32,199
careers. Yea, and it looks
amazing, lady. I think it was

961
01:14:32,239 --> 01:14:35,720
with one of the old crooners.
I know that was which one, you

962
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:40,600
know? I think it was one
of the one of the old rat pack

963
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:44,439
or something. Well, she did
h that was real. She did something

964
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:47,640
with Tony Bennett. But that was
real. He was actually yeah, no,

965
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:51,000
that was really Tony Bennett. Yeah, that was yeah. A couple

966
01:14:51,039 --> 01:14:56,079
of years before he passed. Yeah, sadly he had suffered from dementia.

967
01:14:56,239 --> 01:15:00,680
However, the one thing he never
lost was his music. And if you

968
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,239
put him near a piano or whatever
he would want to sing, he would

969
01:15:03,319 --> 01:15:06,359
he would get and he would just
light up. So when they did that

970
01:15:06,399 --> 01:15:11,600
with him, it was amazing because
you know, he just lit up.

971
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:15,159
But that was very, very real. Yeah. Yeah, So my last

972
01:15:15,239 --> 01:15:24,079
question is is this avatar thing going
to ruin live music, live live concerts

973
01:15:24,159 --> 01:15:26,520
kind of thing? You know what
I mean? Are people going to get

974
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:29,319
lazy and say, let's just do
an avatar of our band and we'll be

975
01:15:29,359 --> 01:15:31,960
immortalized forever and then we don't have
to go on Because people are always going

976
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:34,439
to want to meet their heroes,
right, They're always going to want to

977
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:40,079
see their heroes in person. Concerts
are those opportunities to be as close to

978
01:15:40,119 --> 01:15:43,880
that star that you can get,
you know, So I don't think that

979
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:47,720
would ever go away. Yeah,
but the possibility of them walking by you,

980
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:53,199
Yeah, I agree. There's nothing
that will ever truly replace the the

981
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:58,279
truly live experience of musicians playing live. So, I mean, I think

982
01:15:58,279 --> 01:16:00,720
it's a valid concern that you bring
up. I think it's a very valid

983
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:04,359
concern, But I'm optimistic about that. I don't think it'll ever Uh,

984
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:09,279
I think it enhances things overall.
I don't think it'll ever actually replace the

985
01:16:09,319 --> 01:16:13,880
live experience. I certainly hope not
talk about a really insane way to preserve

986
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:17,520
the music, right, I mean
that's yeah, yeah, it'd be great.

987
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,840
Well listen, hey, congratulations on
your new time slot. I think

988
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:27,439
the extra hour is going to do
you a whole lot of good because and

989
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:30,840
uh, you're good at what you
guys do anyway, So oh, thank

990
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:34,520
you, congratulations, and happy holidays
to you, and we'll talk to you

991
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:38,039
soon, all right, Mike,
happy holidays too. Thank you for the

992
01:16:38,039 --> 01:16:41,520
call. I appreciate it. I
will see you all right, by bye.

993
01:16:42,159 --> 01:16:44,600
All right. That was our friend
Mike Doyle, And uh, yeah,

994
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,359
his voice really is deeper in the
morning. It's funny, and that's

995
01:16:47,359 --> 01:16:49,399
true of a lot of people.
You know, when we first wake up,

996
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:53,800
we sound our voices are naturally deeper. But it's it's funny when it

997
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:57,640
when it's that our vocal course,
when it's that obvious. I wonder if

998
01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:01,159
I even I wonder if my voice
is I don't know if my voice is

999
01:17:01,159 --> 01:17:05,239
deeper in the morning or not.
I've actually never really like I'm used to

1000
01:17:05,279 --> 01:17:08,560
hearing my own voice, so I
don't know, you know what I mean,

1001
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:13,199
voice too, yes, yeah,
so I don't know. If I

1002
01:17:13,239 --> 01:17:15,560
don't know if my voice is deeper
in the morning or not, it don't.

1003
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:18,880
Probably it probably is, I don't
know. Bruce from a Legion of

1004
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:21,960
Solace in the chat says, with
the rise of virtual meet and greets,

1005
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:28,159
I could see digital avatar shows potentially
affecting, uh, the the gate of

1006
01:17:28,199 --> 01:17:30,760
our live show. They really meet
and greets are being done virtually. Mike

1007
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,600
makes a valid point. I think
he's kidding about that. But if that

1008
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:36,640
starts, if that were to happen, where you meet an avatar and you

1009
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:42,359
pretend it's I mean, there's a
lot of suspension of disbelief required to do

1010
01:17:42,399 --> 01:17:45,359
that, to meet an avatar and
pretend you're meeting the actual person. But

1011
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:48,840
now if it gets to that point, then we are in trouble. We're

1012
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:55,880
really talking fifth element right that world. I want that. I like that.

1013
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:58,079
Well, No, I don't want
the death or anything. No,

1014
01:17:58,119 --> 01:18:00,600
it's technology. I want the technology. If you'd like to join us,

1015
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:04,119
if you have any thoughts on this
six o three two five six seven six

1016
01:18:04,359 --> 01:18:10,079
three two five six seven. But
yeah, Jenny and I were talking on

1017
01:18:10,079 --> 01:18:13,279
the way over this morning about years
ago. It must have been at least

1018
01:18:13,319 --> 01:18:16,600
a decade ago now, maybe maybe
twelve years maybe I don't remember when exactly

1019
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:19,760
it happened, but it was a
big deal at the time, and and

1020
01:18:20,039 --> 01:18:24,279
there was some controversy around it just
in terms of is it really right to

1021
01:18:24,319 --> 01:18:27,640
be doing this. I believe it
was. Uh, And there might be

1022
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:30,680
an earlier example that I'm forgetting,
but this is the first time I remember

1023
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,800
being really conscious of this was when
they had the they had effectively an avatar

1024
01:18:34,319 --> 01:18:40,840
or some sort of a digital version
of Tupac performing it. I believe it

1025
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:44,880
was at Coachella Holographic Tupac. Yeah, and I remember at the time that

1026
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:48,039
sparked a lot of conversation about,
well, this is cool and it's surprisingly

1027
01:18:48,119 --> 01:18:54,399
realistic, but is this really okay? It actually it raised some some issues

1028
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:59,680
about, you know, is it
ethically should you even be doing this because

1029
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:02,000
it's you know, and I don't
have any problem with it. I thought

1030
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:06,239
it was cool, but I remember
being surprised and again, imagine how far

1031
01:19:06,279 --> 01:19:10,199
the technology has come. Now.
Well you can see it, in fact,

1032
01:19:10,239 --> 01:19:13,640
if you watch these videos from the
show the other night, from when

1033
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:15,319
the Kiss avatars were unveiled, then
of course you can go online and see

1034
01:19:15,359 --> 01:19:18,760
videos of the Abba Show, which
yeah, I mean it especially the technology

1035
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:26,600
is amazing and according to this Kiss
actually has experimented with VR concerts. Yeah

1036
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:30,520
that it couldn't have gone over well
because I don't remember ever hearing about it.

1037
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:34,279
No, you know what they did
do, and and I missed them

1038
01:19:34,359 --> 01:19:38,359
on this tour, so I never
got to experience it. But when they

1039
01:19:38,359 --> 01:19:42,720
did the Psycho Circus tour in ninety
nine, they did a three D thing

1040
01:19:43,079 --> 01:19:48,159
where they had they had three D
screens and behind the stage, over the

1041
01:19:48,199 --> 01:19:53,560
stage, and then they gave out
three D glasses as they're going in.

1042
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:58,640
So but I don't know why,
but for some reason I missed that tour.

1043
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,560
I must have been super busy when
they were in the area. And

1044
01:20:01,279 --> 01:20:05,760
and uh, but the reviews weren't
great. It didn't go over that well.

1045
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:11,479
Plus I guess there was a problem
to where you know, uh,

1046
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:14,840
I don't know that they'd run out
of three D glasses to give out or

1047
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:17,000
something, but I just remember people
were kind of like, yeah, it's

1048
01:20:17,359 --> 01:20:21,439
this whole three D experiment, it's
not really working for for this. Uh.

1049
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:24,520
You know, it's not like when
you go and sit in a movie

1050
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:29,199
theater. It's it's it's not really
working, Okay, Bruce says. The

1051
01:20:29,319 --> 01:20:32,279
virtual meet and greet is a face
to face meeting, like you're doing a

1052
01:20:32,279 --> 01:20:35,399
skype call or a face chat.
You get to speak with the celebrity or

1053
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:39,359
the artists for a few minutes.
They sign a couple of things for you

1054
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:44,159
on camera. Oh I gotcha,
Okay, that are eventually mailed to you.

1055
01:20:45,079 --> 01:20:47,600
They started doing them during the pandemic, and they found a market and

1056
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:51,560
continued post pandemic. So it's like, it's like, it's like, what

1057
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:56,880
do you call that. George Santos
just turned up on it. What's it

1058
01:20:56,920 --> 01:21:00,960
called? Well, that's, uh, that's a cameo cammy you can So

1059
01:21:00,039 --> 01:21:04,000
it's like a cameo thing. Yeah, sort of. But but but they're

1060
01:21:04,039 --> 01:21:06,359
signing things and their mail to you. Okay, so it's me. They

1061
01:21:06,359 --> 01:21:11,239
don't necessarily talk to you, so
it's not where you're meeting. So it's

1062
01:21:11,279 --> 01:21:15,039
not you're like you're you're not meeting
the avatar. You're it's just online,

1063
01:21:15,199 --> 01:21:19,760
right Okay, yeah, okay,
no, that makes sense. Yeah,

1064
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:24,039
yeah, that's that's kind of weird
to me. By the way, So

1065
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:30,359
a couple of people have asked me, and I'm gonna I'm saying I'm gonna

1066
01:21:30,359 --> 01:21:33,159
say something here that might surprise people, because people have been asking me,

1067
01:21:33,159 --> 01:21:35,720
people who know that Kiss is my
favorite band, how I how I feel

1068
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:40,479
about this? And am I excited
about this? Or am I you know?

1069
01:21:41,359 --> 01:21:44,119
Obviously? Uh, you know,
you've got a wide range of Kiss

1070
01:21:44,159 --> 01:21:46,439
fans with different feelings about things,
you know. I mean, hell,

1071
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:50,199
there there's still Kiss fans and you
can run into them online if you go

1072
01:21:50,279 --> 01:21:53,960
looking for them. Who depending on
you know, if you go into these

1073
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:57,079
different Facebook groups and whatnot. Who
are I mean, there's some Kiss fans

1074
01:21:57,079 --> 01:22:00,840
who are still mad about you know, about about Kiss existing without you know

1075
01:22:01,159 --> 01:22:06,920
it, being Ason Peter in the
band. I mean they're literally even in

1076
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:11,399
the year twenty twenty three, there
are people who've never accepted any Kiss lineup

1077
01:22:11,399 --> 01:22:15,079
except the original Kiss lineup curious and
that's fine. I'm not knocking them.

1078
01:22:15,119 --> 01:22:17,159
I mean, it's, you know, whatever kisses to you. You know,

1079
01:22:17,199 --> 01:22:20,760
it's art, it's subjective, and
you know, personally, I enjoy

1080
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:24,840
all eras of the band and all
lineups of the band. But a couple

1081
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:26,720
of people have asked me, how
do I feel about this? Am I

1082
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:29,319
excited about it? Do I think
it's cool. Do I think it's lame?

1083
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,600
And the thing that might surprise some
people, given that Kiss is my

1084
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:36,359
favorite band and has been since I
was a kid, and I'm sure always

1085
01:22:36,359 --> 01:22:44,720
will be, most likely, I'm
kind of indifferent. I'm don't get me

1086
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:47,399
wrong, I'm curious anything that they
do. I'm curious about because they are

1087
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:53,319
my favorite band, but I'm not
I don't have any particular strong feelings about

1088
01:22:53,319 --> 01:22:57,439
this, and I think part of
it is I mean, don't get me

1089
01:22:57,439 --> 01:22:59,600
wrong, if I had an opportunity
to go, you know, when this

1090
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:03,960
new show with the avatars rolls out
and whatnot, it'd probably be interesting to

1091
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:10,600
see it. But I'm but I'm
kind of indifferent to it all. And

1092
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:16,359
I think I think part of that
has to do with the fact that when

1093
01:23:16,399 --> 01:23:21,439
I first became a Kiss fan.
I've told this story on the air,

1094
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:26,640
they were a couple of years out
of the makeup because remember Kiss went for

1095
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:30,920
thirteen years, Kiss was no makeup. They took the makeup off in eighty

1096
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:36,439
three and they didn't put it back
on until ninety six when they reunited the

1097
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:42,119
original lineup and did the reunion tour. So I became a fan during the

1098
01:23:42,159 --> 01:23:46,119
non makeup era, and I've told
the story it was. It would have

1099
01:23:46,159 --> 01:23:53,680
been nineteen eighty five. I'm watching
MTV after school one day and the video

1100
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:58,600
for Tears Are Falling was on.
And I had liked Kiss before that,

1101
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:01,880
but I really liked that song and
I thought the video was cool. It's

1102
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:05,119
a little cringe in terms of what
they're wearing, but I liked the video.

1103
01:24:06,039 --> 01:24:13,239
And I'm watching and my dad comes
home from work that day and the

1104
01:24:13,319 --> 01:24:15,079
video's on and he kind of pokes
his head in the living room and he's

1105
01:24:15,119 --> 01:24:16,920
like, Maddy, who is that? Who does this song? Is that

1106
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:20,119
Kiss? And I said yeah,
And he said to me, He's like,

1107
01:24:20,359 --> 01:24:24,000
I really like this song and I
said, yeah, me too.

1108
01:24:24,039 --> 01:24:28,239
It's like my favorite song right now. So he made a mental note of

1109
01:24:28,239 --> 01:24:31,800
that, apparently, because then at
this would have been a probably around October.

1110
01:24:34,039 --> 01:24:43,199
In my Christmas stocking was that album
Asylum, and I listened to it

1111
01:24:43,239 --> 01:24:45,680
and it became and I just fell
in love with Kiss, like that was

1112
01:24:46,039 --> 01:24:48,279
it. They were my favorite band
from that point on. But it was

1113
01:24:48,319 --> 01:24:57,520
during the non makeup era, so
I don't have the attachment to the makeup

1114
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:00,840
and the costumes and everything that part
of it. Aren't they wearing the makeup

1115
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:03,800
though in the avatars they're wearing them. Oh yeah, well that's the thing

1116
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,520
that's that's kind of part of why. Well, yeah, it'd be weird

1117
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:11,479
for them not to, but they
have today's cruise, but it's not the

1118
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:15,039
old people. But it's just but
it's just that, you know, like,

1119
01:25:15,119 --> 01:25:19,600
to me as a fan, I've
never had that attachment to those images

1120
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:27,640
that people who either started being a
fan back during the original you know time

1121
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:30,880
when they were in makeup or it's
funny. I have this vague memory from

1122
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:33,960
my childhood of going to a friend's
house who was really in the Kiss before

1123
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:38,119
I was, when they were still
in makeup and seeing the posters on the

1124
01:25:38,159 --> 01:25:41,680
wall of them in makeup and everything
and it, but it didn't connect with

1125
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:45,439
me at that point. So to
me, the reason that I'm a Kiss

1126
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:49,600
fan first and foremost, and this
part I think is true of most Kiss

1127
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:55,840
fans, it's because of the music, but it's really just that. And

1128
01:25:56,119 --> 01:26:00,279
I loved going to see them on
tour during the non makeup era, you

1129
01:26:00,279 --> 01:26:05,920
know, I because I didn't need
you know, always very during that thirteen

1130
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:12,399
year span, always very energetic live
shows, always sounded really great. The

1131
01:26:12,399 --> 01:26:15,920
lineups they had when they didn't have
Ason Peter and the band were very solid,

1132
01:26:15,039 --> 01:26:18,439
live, really good players, and
just it was always a great experience.

1133
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:24,439
So I never I never had that
connection to the makeup and the costumes.

1134
01:26:25,319 --> 01:26:29,479
So to me, it's kind of
like, eh, Like when they

1135
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:31,880
put the makeup back on in ninety
six and they reunited the original lineup,

1136
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:36,960
I was kind of like, Eh, yeah, this is cool and everything,

1137
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:42,680
but I really liked the direction they
were going anyway. But I also

1138
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:46,159
understood at the time, I fully
understood that for every one Kiss fan that

1139
01:26:46,199 --> 01:26:49,720
felt about it the way I did
who had some ambivalence about them going back

1140
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:54,359
to the original lineup and putting the
makeup back on, there were probably twenty

1141
01:26:54,399 --> 01:26:58,680
fans who were really excited about,
Oh, they're finally doing the reunion and

1142
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:00,720
they're finally going to put the makeup
back on. You know what I mean,

1143
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:05,600
I do. I this is a
new an incredibly cool way to be

1144
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:10,079
able to preserve music and the artists. You know, in the past,

1145
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:14,760
we had still images you know you've
got which we try to digitize better,

1146
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:17,720
or music you're trying to fix.
Now we get to preserve icons, and

1147
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:21,720
I think that's marvelous. I really
do. I think this. I don't

1148
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:25,680
think it's bad at all that they're
doing this Avatar. No, I don't

1149
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:28,680
either. I think it's a great
way to hit Their music will always be

1150
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:33,279
able to be shown introduced to somebody
new. I don't know. I don't

1151
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:39,079
I see more tech coming into concerts, Yeah, not less so I think

1152
01:27:39,119 --> 01:27:41,319
people need to kind of get used
to the fact there's going to be some

1153
01:27:41,399 --> 01:27:44,439
tech there. But I think this
is this is a great way for them

1154
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:48,159
to walk away physically. Yeah,
why they still can No, And I

1155
01:27:48,159 --> 01:27:50,560
think it's cool. Just just to
be clear with everyone, I'm not I'm

1156
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:54,159
not opposed to it at all.
I mean there's there's some Kiss fans who

1157
01:27:54,159 --> 01:27:56,760
are who are negative about it,
who are like, you know, and

1158
01:27:56,800 --> 01:28:00,720
of course, I mean if you
go online and you interact with you're gonna

1159
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:03,760
find a wide range of opinions on
any subject related to the band. So

1160
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:06,159
there's a lot of people who are
very excited. There are some people who

1161
01:28:06,159 --> 01:28:09,800
are kind of like there are some
people who are mad about it, some

1162
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:12,600
fans who are like, no,
they should have just that that was the

1163
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:15,600
final show of the tour. That
should be it to time to retire and

1164
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:18,079
we'll always have the music and that
should be it, you know. But

1165
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:21,600
no, I think it's cool.
I just don't have any But I think

1166
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:27,760
because I don't have any strong connection
to the makeup and the costumes, seeing

1167
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:30,800
the avatars is not. I think
that's where the disconnect is for me and

1168
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:34,199
why again, I'm not opposed to
it, but I'm not excited about it

1169
01:28:34,239 --> 01:28:39,359
either. I'm kind of I'm kind
of indifferent. I would be excited if

1170
01:28:39,399 --> 01:28:42,800
they put out a new album.
That would be exciting to me because it

1171
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:45,439
would be new music from my favorite
band. I don't think that, you

1172
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:47,039
know what I mean. I don't
think it's gonna happen. I think the

1173
01:28:48,279 --> 01:28:53,680
exactly Yeah, Bruce from Legion of
Solace is asking in the chat room.

1174
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:59,159
Makeup went back on just after their
MTV Unplugged correct shortly after. So what

1175
01:28:59,239 --> 01:29:04,479
happened is when they did MTV Unplugged
in ninety five, which I think is

1176
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:09,239
like the second or third highest rated
unplugged. I think number one is Nirvana,

1177
01:29:09,319 --> 01:29:13,800
but I'm not positive. But when
they did the MTV Unplugged, it

1178
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:17,000
was the lineup at that time for
most of it, and then they had

1179
01:29:17,039 --> 01:29:20,439
Ason Peter come out. It was
the first time Paul and Jean had played

1180
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:24,920
with Ason Peter in over a decade. Ason Peter came out and they and

1181
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:29,079
then the original four did two songs, and then Bruce and Eric came back

1182
01:29:29,119 --> 01:29:32,720
out, and then the six of
them the only time in Kistory that you've

1183
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:36,199
had six Kiss members playing together.
But the six of them also all did

1184
01:29:36,239 --> 01:29:42,119
two songs together. But that led
to As and Peter being a part of

1185
01:29:42,159 --> 01:29:47,079
that led to gradually eventually in ninety
six, there were a lot of negotiations

1186
01:29:47,079 --> 01:29:51,680
that had to go on, but
that led to opening the door to those

1187
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:56,159
guys coming back into the band and
doing the reunion tour. So yeah,

1188
01:29:56,159 --> 01:30:00,960
Interestingly, Gene Simmons had to be
talked into it. Paul was very gung

1189
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:04,680
ho about doing the reunion tour,
but Jean was the one who kind of

1190
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:08,720
felt like, I don't know,
I like the direction we're going now,

1191
01:30:09,079 --> 01:30:12,560
do we really want Ason Peter back? Things are a lot easier without them

1192
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:17,279
around, you know. And Paul
Stanley had to talk him into it,

1193
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:21,399
which is the same thing that happened
when they took the makeup off in eighty

1194
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:26,039
three. Same thing Jeane didn't want
to take the makeup off. Jean was

1195
01:30:26,079 --> 01:30:28,920
like, I've got this character.
I'm the demon, that's all I know

1196
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:31,680
how to be, you know.
And Paul Stanley was the one who had

1197
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:34,560
to talk him into it and say, Gene, the makeup is played out.

1198
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:38,479
We have nowhere else to go if
we want to, you know,

1199
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:40,920
get this thing, you know,
really moving again and get back to the

1200
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:43,239
level of success that we were at
a couple of years ago. We need

1201
01:30:43,279 --> 01:30:48,199
to make a big change. And
it worked. But but yeah, so

1202
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:53,119
you know, the avatars and everything. Yeah, it's cool, and you

1203
01:30:53,159 --> 01:30:55,960
know, again I'm not opposed to
it, but oh I'm not that excited

1204
01:30:55,960 --> 01:31:00,119
about it either. Funny that Jean
was kidding around about how Paul Stanley is

1205
01:31:00,199 --> 01:31:03,960
gonna jump higher than he ever has
before. Oh, and that because it

1206
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:08,439
won't hurt that st at least just
jumps up. Yeah, I won't hurt

1207
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:12,199
either. He's Yeah, I believe
Paul Stanley's had both his hips replaced,

1208
01:31:12,359 --> 01:31:15,079
is it? Wow, Well,
it doesn't surprise me. I mean,

1209
01:31:15,119 --> 01:31:18,079
these guys have been walking around of
these giant platform boots, have you,

1210
01:31:18,079 --> 01:31:23,520
you know, jumping around on the
stage for decades. Yeah, I'm betting

1211
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:27,920
their knees or shot their hips are
shot. It's all shot. Oh,

1212
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:32,560
Bruce from Legion of Sola says,
in two thousand he met Bruce Culick out

1213
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:36,000
a guitar clinic. Great guy.
Yeah, see, Bruce is my my

1214
01:31:36,159 --> 01:31:41,159
favorite guitar player from Kiss who never
wore the makeup. He was there only

1215
01:31:41,239 --> 01:31:45,960
during the non makeup era. But
he's he's my favorite guitar player from the

1216
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:48,479
band. I love, love,
huge Bruce Culick fan, and I'm not

1217
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:51,680
surprised that he was a great guy
to meet in person, because, uh

1218
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:58,520
yeah, Bruce is h He's got
a great reputation, really really good guy.

1219
01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:01,039
All Right, my friends, Well, well we're going to move on.

1220
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:04,520
We're going to Oh, Melanie La
Liberty in the chat room says,

1221
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:12,640
I feel like Bruce's serious comments balance
out the the heckling bs. Oh Bruce

1222
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:15,159
from Legion of Solace his serious comments. I don't mind the heckling. It's

1223
01:32:15,199 --> 01:32:18,720
fun. Oh. Hello to Greg
Joseph, who joins us in the Facebook

1224
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:24,880
live chat. We're going to get
to Eric Pilcher's a classic film review.

1225
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:29,960
It's about that time, and this
week the subject is the film A Bronx

1226
01:32:30,039 --> 01:32:34,239
Tale. Personal favorite of mine and
uh, and then we'll show some love

1227
01:32:34,279 --> 01:32:38,520
to our amazing sponsors. And then
when we come back for the third hour,

1228
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:42,000
we've got a great musical guest coming
up. Kenny Troon will be joining

1229
01:32:42,039 --> 01:32:45,399
us live in studio, and I
think he will have his guitar with him

1230
01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:48,840
and that's gonna be a lot of
fun. We've also been featuring some of

1231
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:59,439
his studio tracks. But let's see
without further ado. Except I was foolish

1232
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:02,720
and didn't have this loaded up there. It is Bronx tail review. All

1233
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:06,960
right here it is you're still getting
used to Saturday mornings, all right here.

1234
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:12,199
It is a Bronx Tale. Eric
Pilcher's classic film review. Check it

1235
01:33:12,199 --> 01:33:14,680
out. This is really good.
I think Eric just gets better and better

1236
01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:16,319
with these, this one. I
really really like this one. Of course

1237
01:33:16,319 --> 01:33:21,239
I'm biased because it's one of my
favorite movies. Here it is all right

1238
01:33:21,279 --> 01:33:59,279
now, I got to know nice
and time to four. This is the

1239
01:33:59,319 --> 01:34:04,000
futom section of the Bronx. My
Home a world into itself. You could

1240
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:08,119
get Teddy Bong fifteen minutes from here, but they might as well be three

1241
01:34:08,199 --> 01:34:14,920
thousand miles away. That's Mount Homeo
Church and the sound of the bells would

1242
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:28,720
fill the neighborhood on the streets,
the swell. It was nineteen sixty and

1243
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:33,600
Duop was just sound on the streets
standing. It felt like there was a

1244
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:44,239
duop group on every corner back then. What the time it was. The

1245
01:34:44,279 --> 01:34:46,840
New York Yankees were playing in the
Pittsburgh Pirates in the World Series, and

1246
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:50,399
Mickey Mantle was like a god to
me. My dad would take me to

1247
01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:58,039
Yankee Stadium and we would watch the
Yankees win. That's the shape Bipy.

1248
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:00,760
That's where the guys hung out.
But I'll tell you about them later.

1249
01:35:05,359 --> 01:35:11,239
That's my building. I live right
there on the third floor six six eighty

1250
01:35:11,279 --> 01:35:20,239
seventh Street. There's my stoop.
And on warm summer nights, all through

1251
01:35:20,279 --> 01:35:25,079
the neighborhood you would hear the sounds
of young Italian men were man sing their

1252
01:35:25,079 --> 01:35:30,720
women all right, ma, right, gotten a car? No getting a

1253
01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:33,439
car? Leave me alone? Come
on, baby, you know I love

1254
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:48,119
it. Where you getting a car? And right there, right there under

1255
01:35:48,119 --> 01:35:50,920
that lamp post, Dan stood the
man, the number one man in the

1256
01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:57,680
neighborhood, Sonny. Everybody loves Sonny
and they treated him like a god.

1257
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:03,760
And in my neighborhood he and I
would sit on my stoop and watch them

1258
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:08,720
all day and all night, but
he would never even look at me,

1259
01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:16,000
never until one day. If one
were to think of the countless movies that

1260
01:36:16,039 --> 01:36:21,079
have taken place in the Bronx,
there would be many great films that come

1261
01:36:21,119 --> 01:36:29,560
to mind. However, this week's
film, sadly is often forgotten in that

1262
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:36,000
upper tier of films about the great
city. Despite having the known area in

1263
01:36:36,079 --> 01:36:44,239
its title, and even though it
can be overlooked, it has carved itself

1264
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:51,199
a nice little legacy even over thirty
years after its initial release. This week's

1265
01:36:51,239 --> 01:36:59,880
film is the directorial debut of screen
legend and my personal favorite actor of all

1266
01:37:00,119 --> 01:37:08,000
time, Robert de Niro. Adapted
from the autobiographical One Man's Stage play starring

1267
01:37:08,159 --> 01:37:14,199
in written by Chaz Paul Monterry,
A Bronx Tale, released in nineteen ninety

1268
01:37:14,239 --> 01:37:18,479
three, presents us the story of
Claire Duo, a young man that,

1269
01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:25,439
over the period of ten years,
finds himself torn between a life in organized

1270
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:31,600
crime when he is befronted by local
mob boss Sonny played by Paul Monterry and

1271
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:40,399
his honest, hard working bus driver
father Lorenzo played by De Niro. Our

1272
01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:45,840
next clip will tell us how this
film came to be. Two years ago,

1273
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:51,560
De Niro, Paul and Terry Tommy
Mottola were on The Today Show before

1274
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:59,159
the premiere of the Broadway musical adaptation
of this film. Paulmnary and De Niro

1275
01:37:59,399 --> 01:38:04,439
speak on what led to the film
being made and the uniqueness of the deal

1276
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:12,520
broker between the two to get it
made the right way. Check out this

1277
01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:16,159
crew Oscar nominee Chas Palmonary, Oscar
winner Robert De Niro, Tony winner Jerry's

1278
01:38:16,159 --> 01:38:20,239
Ax and legendary music mogul Tommy Mattola. They all share a love for the

1279
01:38:20,279 --> 01:38:25,000
Bronx Tail. This is a one
man show. Staring was a one man

1280
01:38:25,119 --> 01:38:30,600
show starring Chaz Palm Andary back in
the eighties. Robert made his directorial debut

1281
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:34,399
and appeared in the nineteen ninety three
movie version. Now, nearly twenty five

1282
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:39,880
years later, they've turned a Bronx
Tail into a Broadway musical. Chaz wrote

1283
01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:44,279
the book, Robert and Jerry codirect
Tommy is lead producer. Wow, guys,

1284
01:38:44,279 --> 01:38:45,920
good morning, Nice to see you
take this the right way. This

1285
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:53,199
is like a murderer's row producing and
directing talent here. This is your story

1286
01:38:53,399 --> 01:38:56,720
right. I saw him at a
basketball game not long ago. We walked

1287
01:38:56,760 --> 01:38:59,319
up talk to each other. When
we brought this show up, you got

1288
01:38:59,319 --> 01:39:02,039
a smile on your face like I
have never seen before. Why does it

1289
01:39:02,079 --> 01:39:04,680
mean so much to you? Well, you know it's my life story,

1290
01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:06,960
you know, growing up in the
Bronx. You know, I witnessed this

1291
01:39:08,039 --> 01:39:10,600
murder when I was a kid.
My father, Lorenzo, was a bus

1292
01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:14,960
driver. He played saxophone, you
know, and he always wanted to play,

1293
01:39:15,239 --> 01:39:16,960
you know, be a saxophone player. Which I didn't bring it up

1294
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:19,319
in the movie The Other One Man
Show, but I was able to do

1295
01:39:19,399 --> 01:39:24,239
it in this musical. Bob saw
me do it in the twenty five almost

1296
01:39:24,239 --> 01:39:27,239
twenty eight years ago, and he
said this should be a movie, and

1297
01:39:27,439 --> 01:39:30,439
Bob made it happen as a movie. The way the story goes, you're

1298
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:32,600
told, after one night doing that
One Man Show, that he's in the

1299
01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:35,359
house and in your dressing room and
wants to talk to you. Yes,

1300
01:39:35,479 --> 01:39:40,000
what do you remember about that meeting? No, I had been hearing about

1301
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:42,479
the show and so on, and
I said I want to go see it,

1302
01:39:42,880 --> 01:39:45,760
and that's how it then one.
I mean, it had been running

1303
01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:48,079
for a while a couple of months
or so, I went and so cheed.

1304
01:39:48,159 --> 01:39:50,439
He said, we talk blah blah
blah. Next thing, you know,

1305
01:39:51,199 --> 01:39:54,680
you say, he changed your life. And I want to mention there

1306
01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:59,600
were other offers you had gotten to
buy the story. Why was his offer

1307
01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:02,600
the right offer at that time?
Well, because what Bob said was well,

1308
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:05,119
first of all, Bob was the
one who said, you should play

1309
01:40:05,119 --> 01:40:09,039
Sonny and you'll write the screenplay because
it'll be honest. He was the one

1310
01:40:09,039 --> 01:40:12,479
who gave me that opportunity. Everybody
else wanted it, but they didn't want

1311
01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:15,039
me. They wanted to put a
star in the row. But Bob let

1312
01:40:15,079 --> 01:40:18,520
that happen, and he let me
write Mike the screenplay and really, I

1313
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:21,279
mean and he looked at me and
said, if you do it with me,

1314
01:40:21,359 --> 01:40:25,079
I'll make it right. I'll never
forget those words. And he said,

1315
01:40:25,079 --> 01:40:27,399
shake my hand, and that's the
way it'll be. That was the

1316
01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:33,800
deal right there. Oftentimes, in
gangster films there is this poll of good

1317
01:40:34,279 --> 01:40:43,039
versus evil. Many times our primary
character falls into the pitfalls of a life

1318
01:40:43,199 --> 01:40:49,079
in organized crime. However, in
this film, Sonny doesn't want this life

1319
01:40:49,319 --> 01:40:56,800
for Claire Duro In a way,
Lorenzo and Sonny want the same thing for

1320
01:40:56,920 --> 01:41:00,680
the young man, but they cannot
see it through their different standings in the

1321
01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:08,319
community. Our next two clips are
examples of this. First, when Lorenzo

1322
01:41:08,439 --> 01:41:14,520
finds out his young son has earned
over six hundred dollars working at Sonny's bar

1323
01:41:14,800 --> 01:41:20,680
and shooting craps, he angrily confronts
the mobster. Then, in the second

1324
01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:28,439
clip, Sonny schools the teenage Colla
Juo or c as he is known as,

1325
01:41:29,039 --> 01:41:33,960
on life and Herkening back to the
ending of our previous clip, Sonny

1326
01:41:34,119 --> 01:41:47,319
answers if it is better to be
loved or feared? Yeah, I think

1327
01:42:00,319 --> 01:42:02,720
we can't accept that. I didn't
give you. I give you your son.

1328
01:42:02,760 --> 01:42:04,880
He worked, That's right, my
son, and I don't want my

1329
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:08,520
son involved in what goes on here. Love. No, what what are

1330
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:11,119
you talking about? Please? I'm
not a stupid man. Okay, Please,

1331
01:42:11,319 --> 01:42:13,880
I'm not stupid. You know what
I'm talking about. Just stay away

1332
01:42:13,880 --> 01:42:15,840
from my son. Okay, Hey, you stay right over here. Seat.

1333
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:17,520
Why don't you go outside? I
want to talk to your father.

1334
01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:24,880
I'll speak to my own son.
Gout you a wait outside. First of

1335
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:26,920
all, I respectul the rent.
So you're a stand up guy, well,

1336
01:42:26,920 --> 01:42:29,560
from the same neighborhood. But don't
ever talk to me like that again.

1337
01:42:30,359 --> 01:42:31,039
I tell your son to go to
school, to go to car.

1338
01:42:31,199 --> 01:42:33,720
Understand, it's not what you say, it's what he sees. It's the

1339
01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:38,079
clothes, it's the cars, it's
the money, it's everything. He tried

1340
01:42:38,119 --> 01:42:40,640
to throw away his baseball cards the
other day because he said, Mickey Man

1341
01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:45,439
will never pay my rent. He
said that deal, kid, that's not

1342
01:42:45,520 --> 01:42:47,520
funny. Not funny when your nine
year old kid has a bigger bank account

1343
01:42:47,520 --> 01:42:49,760
than you do. I offered you
a job, but you said a note

1344
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:51,800
to me. That's right, And
I say no. Now, just leave

1345
01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:56,479
my son alone. Please. Hey, don't you see how I treat that

1346
01:42:56,520 --> 01:42:58,720
kid. I treat that kid like
he's my son. Yeah, your son,

1347
01:42:58,760 --> 01:43:01,439
he's my son. He's he's my
son. I'm not afraid of you.

1348
01:43:01,439 --> 01:43:03,359
You should. I know you are, Sonny. I know what you're

1349
01:43:03,399 --> 01:43:05,399
capable of, and I would never
step out of the line. You could

1350
01:43:05,399 --> 01:43:08,840
ask anybody in this neighbor who knows
me. But this time you're wrong.

1351
01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:11,560
You don't fool the man's family.
This is my son, not yours.

1352
01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:15,159
What are you stay away from myself? I give you a slock. Just

1353
01:43:15,239 --> 01:43:21,439
stay away from my stay away.
Where's my money? What? How could

1354
01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:25,119
you do that? Dad? He
was my money. That's bad money.

1355
01:43:25,119 --> 01:43:28,279
I don't want you to have that
money. I said, I want you

1356
01:43:28,359 --> 01:43:31,119
to stay away from him. I
said, you stay away from him.

1357
01:43:32,359 --> 01:43:35,319
Did you hear what I said?
You stay away from him? Said?

1358
01:43:35,359 --> 01:43:39,520
He was right? The look communitis
a sucker. Ye, he's a sucker.

1359
01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:41,960
He's wrong. It don't take much
strength to pull a trigger. But

1360
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:44,319
try and get up every morning,
day after day, and work for a

1361
01:43:44,359 --> 01:43:45,520
living. Let's see him try that. Then, well, she was the

1362
01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:48,479
real tough guy. The working man
is the tough guy. Your father is

1363
01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:53,560
the tough guy. Everybody loves him. You think everybody loves you in the

1364
01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:56,439
bus to say thing, No,
it's not the same. People don't love

1365
01:43:56,520 --> 01:44:06,640
him, they fear him. There's
the difference. And now Sunny imparts a

1366
01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:14,079
lesson on Claire Derow somemot sky Lou
dumps Olvia. You know he goes me

1367
01:44:14,119 --> 01:44:16,119
twenty dollars. It's been two weeks
now and every time he sees me keeps

1368
01:44:16,119 --> 01:44:19,800
dodging me. He's becoming a real
pain in the ash. I mean,

1369
01:44:19,840 --> 01:44:24,760
should I crack him on a one
somebody, what about been telling me?

1370
01:44:25,199 --> 01:44:28,800
Sometimes hurting somebody at the answer.
First of all, is he a good

1371
01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:30,479
friend of us? Yeah? I
don't even like him. You don't even

1372
01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:33,640
like him? Does your answer right? Then look at it this way.

1373
01:44:33,640 --> 01:44:36,279
Of course, you're twenty dollars to
get rid of it. Right, He's

1374
01:44:36,279 --> 01:44:40,279
never gonna bother you again, he's
never gonna ask you for money. Event

1375
01:44:40,840 --> 01:44:43,159
he's out of your life. For
twenty dollars, you gotta have cheap forget

1376
01:44:43,199 --> 01:44:45,640
it. You're always right, You're
always right. Yeah, I'm always right.

1377
01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:48,359
I was always right. I wouldn't
have done ten years in the giant.

1378
01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:53,000
What did you do every day?
Sony? Three? Things you've been

1379
01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:56,880
doing a giant kidden, lift weights, play cards and get into trouble?

1380
01:44:57,039 --> 01:45:01,880
What did you do than? I
read? What did you read? Every

1381
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:06,159
here? Machiavelli. Oh, Machiavelli. It's a famous writer from five hundred

1382
01:45:06,239 --> 01:45:12,199
years ago. Availability. That's what
he always said. Availability. That's right.

1383
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:15,199
Listen to me. I can live
anywhere I want to. You know

1384
01:45:15,199 --> 01:45:19,359
why I live in this neighborhood.
Availability. I want to stay close to

1385
01:45:19,399 --> 01:45:25,279
everything because being on the spot,
I can see trouble immediately. Trouble is

1386
01:45:25,359 --> 01:45:27,880
like a cancer. You gotta get
it early. If you don't get it

1387
01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:30,439
early, it gets too big,
then it kills you. That's why you

1388
01:45:30,439 --> 01:45:35,279
gotta cut it out right. Come
on, you worried about Louie dumps.

1389
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:42,359
Nobody cares. Nobody cares. Worry
about yourself, your family, the people

1390
01:45:42,359 --> 01:45:45,960
that are important to you. That's
what it comes down to. Availability.

1391
01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:49,239
The people in this neighbor that see
me every day, that are on my

1392
01:45:49,359 --> 01:45:55,039
side, they feel safe because they
know I'm close, and it gives them

1393
01:45:55,039 --> 01:45:58,119
more reason to love me. But
the people that want to do otherwise,

1394
01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:02,279
they think twice because they know I'm
close, and that gives them more reason

1395
01:46:02,319 --> 01:46:08,199
to fear me. Is it better
to be loved or feared? That's a

1396
01:46:08,199 --> 01:46:12,680
good question. It's nice to be
both, but it's very difficult. But

1397
01:46:12,720 --> 01:46:17,600
if I had my choice, I
would rather be feared. Fear lasts longer

1398
01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:23,000
than love. Friendships that are bought. Would money mean nothing? You see

1399
01:46:23,119 --> 01:46:26,039
what is around here? I make
a joke. Everybody laughs. I know

1400
01:46:26,119 --> 01:46:30,159
I'm funny, but I'm not that
funny. It's fear that keeps them loyal

1401
01:46:30,199 --> 01:46:32,840
to me. But the trick is
not to be hated. That's why I

1402
01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:35,079
treat my men good, but not
too good. I give them too much,

1403
01:46:35,119 --> 01:46:39,199
then they don't need me. I
give them just enough where they need

1404
01:46:39,239 --> 01:46:43,439
me, but they don't hate me. Don't forget what I'm telling you.

1405
01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:50,279
This film builds up to one of
the most heartbreaking climaxes one can see in

1406
01:46:50,359 --> 01:46:58,439
a quote unquote gangster film. Sonny
is murdered by the man that Claire Dureau

1407
01:46:58,720 --> 01:47:03,439
as a young man with miss to
him. Murder sees unwillingness to identify Sonny

1408
01:47:03,479 --> 01:47:11,479
as the shooter starts the friendship slash
mentorship between the two. In our final

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brief clip, Lorenzo in c finally
put their differences aside, and Lorenzo admits

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to Sonny, laying in his open
casket, why he disliked the mentorship that

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Sonny gave to his son. What
are you doing here? I came to

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pay my respects to your friend.
Are you okay? Yeah? And I'm

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sorry if I've urged one anyway,
It's okay. Everything's gonna be okay,

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Sonny. I want to thank you
for saving my kid's life. I never

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hated you. I guess it's that
I was just mad at you because you

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made him grow up so fast.
My God, have mercy on your soul.

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The way over here, Sonny,
did you hear that my father didn't

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hate you? Nobody cares you were
wrong about that one. What is the

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01:48:48,960 --> 01:49:08,880
talent she around? Sonny? Let's
go home seeing Some of you may be

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asking, wondering, or even be
upset that I spoiled the ending of this

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film. I feel comfortable doing so
because knowing the ending doesn't diminish this film's

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impact or how great it is.
That's because this film transcends its ending.

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The powerhouse performances from pulmonarian de Niro, the accurately depicted and at times uncomfortable

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showing of racial tensions in the Bronx, and a story that we all can

1425
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relate to. The mentor that made
us into who we are is what this

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film is truly about. I dare
any of you to watch this film and

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state that knowing the ending made this
film any less enjoyable, because I believe

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this film is much better and greater
than a simple ending. I hope you

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join me when we will look at
the crowning achievement of director Ridley Scott's career

1430
01:50:13,760 --> 01:50:20,239
and our first sand in Sandals,
Roman epic film covered on classic film reviews.

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The film is the two thousand release
Gladiator for W. M. N

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01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:31,199
H and Matt Connorton. Unleashed.
This has been a classic film review with

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Eric Pilcher on the street of the
Row, standing on the corner, seeing

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good come on.
