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It's time to talks for its time
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It's go What's up everybody? And
welcome Episode one hundred and seventy four

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of Let Me Get that Autograph.
We are back and as always, my

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name is Drew or the d a
T joining me my awesome PHO host.

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Which it's been over a year now. It has been got rappaport, dude.

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This year has gone by really really
fast. When I saw that in

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my Facebook moments, because that's how
I actually realized that I had no clue

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on the date, to tell you
the truth, but a Facebook memory came

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up and I was like, holy
shit, a year. I know,

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it's been. It's been a little
crazy, it's been a great It has

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a lot's gone on this year.
You know. I've I've had a lot

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of time over the weekend to reflect
on that as I've been laid up with

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an ankle injury from playing soccer,
which is something that I never ever thought

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would come out of my mouth if
you'd ask me about that like three or

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four years ago. But it's yeah, it's been a it's been a lot

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going on over the last year.
It's gone by very quickly. You know,

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we've we've had a lot of exciting
things to talk about. So I

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highly recommend, if you know,
if you're new, go back and listen,

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you know, to the last year's
worth of shows that we've done.

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If that's some really good u really
good content, really good topics, and

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a lot more to come. And
there's a lot more to come, and

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I'm I'm just excited to see what
this year is going to bring. Yes,

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Year two is gonna be a whole
lot of fun. Yeah, well

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year two for me, it's you're
like eight for you or something like that,

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eight hundred for us. Yeah.
So, um so we were off

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last week after the Awards show,
and thank you for listening to that,

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for those of you that did,
we we had a good time, you

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know, a lot of fun putting
that list together. And I'm really excited

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for next year's award show to see
what happens within the industry in twenty twenty

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three. But you were you were
to show this past weekend? Yes,

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Yeah, any good pickups? Yeah? I actually actually bought an entire guy's

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table out really, um well,
I walked up to him, and I

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mean, he looked just stressed.
He looked like he was not having a

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good time. And then it's a
card show and it was relatively early.

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It was like three hours into a
two day show. I don't know what

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this guy was expecting, but he
just looked worn down. And I was

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like, hey, you hanging in
there, man? You know, He's

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like, I'm just looking to make
some sales and get out of here.

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Looked at his table and he had
a really what stopped me? But was

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he had a combination of what I
was looking for. And I looked at

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his table and I was like,
well, how much for the table?

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We made a deal on that undisclosed. I'm not gonna say since I know

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and what I bought you can see
that on social media. But I bought

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the table out. So some really
nice pickups, some Jalen Hurt, some

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Burrows, some which we'll touch on
later them and a lot of other people,

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a couple other things really nice and
nice. DK metcalf Spectra RPA the

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Marble out of five. So that
now, were you just walking the show

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or were you set up at a
different table. I was strictly walking.

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Um, I was picking I was. I went there for a specific reason,

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and that was to look for some
you know, lower end slabs,

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lower to mid end slabs. Nothing
huge. If something caught my eye,

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then yes, which I ended up
making a huge deal with the show promoters

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on a couple of my kobes and
some cash for a really big card that

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I'll be debuting on social media here
this week. But I made a real,

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real big move that I didn't plan
on making. But now just walking

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the floor doing some content, meeting
some kids. Love seeing the amount of

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kids that were there, it was
insane. This was the first show by

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this promotion, and they do a
great job. It's a traveling North Carolina

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show, so they're gonna be doing
it all throughout the year in all different

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cities. Shout out to all my
North Carolina and surrounding area listeners. It's

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a really great show. But they
had a trade area set up in the

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middle and it was packed with kids
and adults all day long. But tons

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of kids just sitting there trading,
training, trading, and not just with

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kids, but trading with adults.
I mean, the amount of kid hustlers

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I saw there that were eight to
twelve years old was just awesome. It

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always bottles in mind when I'm set
up. It shows the you know,

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you get like these fourteen fifty year
old kids that you have better cards than

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I do, and it's like a
big time Yeah. It's been like that

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for a couple of years now.
Yes, But I'm said I had one

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pick Island made one pick up this
week. It was a total eBay purchase.

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I love the like really really cheap
color autos from Bowman Chrome. Did

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you pick up? So? I
pick up a twenty fifth seen bow Men

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Chrome Gold Refractor auto of Tyler Wagner, Oh, who was with the Brewers

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at the time. Yeah, I
have no idea what I'm gonna do with

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it, but I saw it and
it's like it was like three bucks num.

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So I'm just like, yeah,
you know what it goes, dude,

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a gold a gold auto for three
bucks? Yeah, getting me?

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I mean, come on it kind
of it goes along with my Paco Rodriguez

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collection that I've been trying to complete, the rainbow on. I need the

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red and I need the superfractor,
and I know they're out there, but

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he yeah, he is like they're
cheap as well. So I was excited.

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Yeah, I was excited about that. It's like, okay, cool

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gold refractor auto for three bucks and
that's Tyler Wagner, which yeah, okay,

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great, you know, yeah lady
made he made it, so yeah,

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I know, I believe, but
D backs as well. I believe,

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but yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, so I was excited about that.

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Hopefully it gets here soon. So
nice. Yeah, so both of

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us had a couple of nice pickups. Well, I think the years years

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overshadows mind by quite a bit.
Ah yeah, especially when you see what

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I ended up picking up, which
we'll we'll debut here later on. It's

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a big point. But we're gonna
move on now, guys, because if

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you listen to the last week's show, and if you haven't, I highly

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recommend checking it out. But we
had our first annual let Me Get That

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Photograph Hobby Awards and we spoke on
Bowman Chrome and about how it was the

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first perfect product TOPS put out all
year. Well, it appears that somebody

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was looking up or down or wherever
at us and the day after we released

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that episode, information comes out that
there's a screw up in that product too,

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along with serial numbering, which would
touch on in just a second.

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But that leads us into our first
topic today, top screw ups, because

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this is yet another TOPS screw up
in And I mean we've we've since I

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even found this out, I've seen
three or four more big ones that we'll

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talk to. Yeah, Bowman Chrome
with a ridiculously dumb serial number in their

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you know. I now here's the
thing. Like I've been I've been pushing

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this idea for years that if you
have a you know, Blake, let's

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say it's a gold refractor, you
know, they're number to fifty. In

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this case, it wasn't, but
you know, and you've got a player

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like Aaron Judge whose jersey number is
ninety nine. You know, I always

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said that they should make one additional
card of that and number it like ninety

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nine of fifty, you know,
just so there's like a jersey number card.

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In this case, it was a
I think it was a green Wave.

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Yeah, yeah, number two,
number to seventy five. I think

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it was out of TOPS. I
think it was out of Chrome update,

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and for some unknown reason they marked
it with SERI number seventy six of seventy

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five. Now before we before I
get onto them about like why they did

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that I'm wondering if it's possible that
one of the other numbers got damaged or

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destroyed and instead of replacing it with
that exact same serial number, you know,

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they which I think I think would
actually be a really cool thing to

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do. If you're talking about a
damage replacement, right, Yeah, you

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would have to have that, you
would have to make that standard, and

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you would have to differentiate it in
some way from the standard serial number,

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because then there'd be no way of
knowing if they were printing a ton more.

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There'd be a million conspiracy theorist saying
they were printing billions of blah blah

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blah. What I think happened on
that end, because it's the same thing

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that with what happened in Bowman,
which should tell you guys a little backstory

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if you haven't heard Bowman serial numbering
it. So it didn't affect the entire

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run, but twenty Prospects and the
blue, Aqua, purple, and one

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other color. I believe all the
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So if if it's two seventy six
out of four ninety nine, all

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four ninety nine have two seventy six. For those prospects, which is just

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absurd. Now, they said that
it was a and this is where I

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go to it, and I think
I know what happened with the seventy six.

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Their response with this was that it
was a It was an issue with

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the technology and the computer process of
the serial numbering of the cards that made

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this happen. So I guess maybe
someone entered in. You probably enter in

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you know what it's out of,
and then it goes through. They probably

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entered in the wrong number, did
something, or put some number in the

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wrong slot. Blah blah blah.
I think what happened on the seventy six

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out of nine out of seventy five
aspect is the computer probably skipped over a

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number, or was told to start
at two instead of one, something along

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those lines. And it may have
started at one, but it went to

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seventy six. It went one over. There should be a Yeah, I

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think we have to look. I
mean, there's still a lot that product

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that has been Yeah, yeah,
we don't know. So if but if

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one of seventy five does happen to
pop up, that eliminates that theory um

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completely. Would think that there would
be some sort of algorithm you know built

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into this where it doesn't allow you
to go over the number regardless. Yes,

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yes, you really would think.
Yeah, um, you know you

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select in the program it's you know, the green wave refractor to seventy five,

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and it knows to print all this, you know, the seventy five

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zero numbers, you know, in
order on it. We have no idea,

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but so look we've got we've got
those right there. We we've got

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those. But and I know some
people are probably saying, Okay, well

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whatever, it's just a couple of
zero numbers on twenty prospects. No,

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that's not that. There's a bigger
issue at hand here, and that is

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all of these screw ups. I
mean, look at what we've had and

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literally twenty twenty three I'm talking to
twenty twenty three and maybe the tail tail

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end, like from Christmas on,
you've had these both of these issues that

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we just talked about. You have
the Brandon marsh Aura at a top finest

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super fractor that are on card autographs. That's missing an autograph that you could

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into a product. Yeah, that
that's a weird one, now, I

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will. I do want to point
out though that all of these products,

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even though we're into twenty twenty three. All of these products were produced and

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packed out. Now of course they
are. I'm just saying, look at

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all of the mistakes in this short
period of times. And let's not even

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go back to the fact that they've
had to do millions of promotions to make

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up for major screw ups. They've
had to do promotions for making the MSRP

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way too high and jacking up the
print runs too high. They the f

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one sapphires, the one on one
pad parasias, that we're all backdoored,

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all the unnumbered ones that were backdoor
to out the Italian plant and they that

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are now on the market. Those
are not fakes. I've spoken to Tops.

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Those are not fakes. They came
from Tops. They were test cards.

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Somehow they made it out of the
factory. Then you have one on

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ones missing autos, You've got all
these serial numbered issues, You've got all

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this stuff on the back end.
This is not one or two little things.

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People love to jump on Panini and
all this type of stuff like all

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the time. And yes, Panini
makes a ton of mistakes as well,

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almost every card company does. But
this is this is getting to the point

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where dude, I mean we just
said it. Bowman Chrome was the first

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perfect product and who knows how long
and now that's out the window, finesses

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out the window. I mean,
I'm trying, and I'm trying to think

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where the blame lies, because right, you know, initially you say,

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all right, well Fanatics took over, and you've got all these issues that

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pop up. But then you look
at it and realize that, okay,

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well Fanatics kept most of the tops
people to exact tops, and the majority

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of them stayed. The printing companies
remain the same, like the only real

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change was adding an Italian plant.
Well, but that but that doesn't affect

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baseball, that's my point. No, No, I know, I know,

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yeah, And that's that's a that's
a different story because you know,

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there's been issues with you know,
Formula one and soccer curtains since they you

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know, since they added those.
So the questions like, I don't know,

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I don't think you can blame this
on Fanatics. No, you absolutely,

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And that's not my that's not my
like what I'm trying to do,

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whatsoever, is not me trying to
attack tops. Um, it's just that

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ultimately, their name is on the
box that's being opened, and so that's

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where the screw ups are gonna lie. But I do think that. I

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mean, it's it's the printing companies. And the one thing that I hope

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and with this quote unquote fanatics takeover
that everyone likes to say, the one

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thing that I hope happens is that
they actually start to do the production of

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their own cards. I think if
they did, I think the quality control

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would go up. Now. TOPS
that looked like was kind of going in

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that direction somewhat by adding overseas plants, by adding top specific plants. Tops

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now was printed at a different area
than you know, everything else too.

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If you look at the quality control
on tops now, it's excellent. So

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I think if you get away,
they've got to get away from Cardamunday in

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GCI. GCI barely does anything anymore
anyways, but Cardamunday in particular is just

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doing too much because they do so
much more than just cards. They do

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everything. And I think that they
just see cards as such a minor aspect

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of their entire operation that they are
not going to put a massive quality control

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team on it. They're not going
to make this amazing, No, They're

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they're not going to, but it
would be significantly cheaper for tops instead of

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bringing in all, you know,
doing all the printing in house, it

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would be a lot cheaper for them
to hire a couple of people and PLoP

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them down in in Cartamody's plan.
Yes, as quality control you know quality

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control people. Yeah, No,
that needs to happen. The entire quality

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control system in the hobby needs to
be revamped the because the quality control right

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now is being done by Cardamondy and
it needs to be done by the card

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companies. And that's I think that's
where the main issue is in all of

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this. And I'm curious, do
you know, do you know where Leaf

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does they're printing? I believe that, now, don't This is not a

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fact, Brian. I know you're
probably listening, especially this week check um

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well maybe or maybe not listening.
Yeah, or maybe not listening, but

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this week either one. But I'll
tag you anyway. But but I believe

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Leaf gets their cards printed by the
same companies. Okay, I believe that

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they because they're right down there.
I believe they use Cardamondyon GCI. They

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may do some in house printing for
certain products, and they're on demand stuff,

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especially like the on demand I think
that because it's like even Panini uses

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a different printer for there on right, and I well, because the turn

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the turnaround time and on demand has
to be so much faster. Exactly what

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would you get? And that's the
reason they do that. But the reason

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I bring it up is, and
I you know, if there was a

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company out there that would do their
own printing, I mean, Leaf would

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be it just because they are such
smaller quantity than you know, than Tops

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and Panini, but an upper deck. But their quality control is spot on,

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Yes, So how and maybe it's
just maybe it's strictly quantity maybe and

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maybe it is that I believe that
maybe and a little more simplistic designs.

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Uh. Leaf does go for more
simplistic designs for the most part. Well,

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I mean if you look at their
their metal cards and things like that,

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I mean, they're they're on par
with you know a lot of the

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stuff that you see from Oh I'm
not I love the designs. I'm just

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saying it's a little easier. Like
I love full border cards, but when

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you get into full border cards,
no, no printing company in the world,

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for some reason can cut a straight
line on a full border card these

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days, So I mean, like
I've yet to see one in the last

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ten years. The reality is that, and the reality is that no border

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cards, they're not straight either.
You just can't tell as easily as you

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can on a full border card.
Absolutely, but I don't know. Lots

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and lots of mess ups there and
hopefully it uh, hopefully it gets a

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little bit better. Um. I
mean, I did a funny thing about

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this that I haven't told you,
but myself and a couple other people from

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Hoppy hot Line got a call from
from Fanatics in the last week wanting to

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sponsor the show. Yeah yeah,
yeah, but we we you know,

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politely turned him down because we you
know, there's a big group of us

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and we we all have our different
shows, different sponsors, et cetera,

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and you know, we don't want
any conflict adventures for anybody. There's a

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lot of pretty big names as part
of the Hobby Hotline crew. And when

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I had my conversation, I said, I told him, I was like,

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you know, uh, there's gonna
be quite a lot of criticism on

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tops products if so. I mean, he was fine with that and understood

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it, but you know, it. It was definitely something that they're aware

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of. So hopefully hopefully they do, you know, do something to change

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it. But I think I think
he named it earlier. The quality control

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needs to be completely revamped. There
needs to be and I say a lot

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more than a couple. There needs
to be a team. There needs to

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be a team with people looking this
stuff over. And I will say,

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you know, if Fanatics wants to
come here as a sponsor or with the

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letter rip and you hey, look, as long as they're open, we're

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not. We're not sitting here trashing
the This is constructive. Christ before Fanatics

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took over, Tops was a sponsor
a letter rip right. The former owners

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got didn't like that. I would
point out the flaws and so and look,

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but that's the thing, you're you
know, the reason that their point

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has Look the rest of the hobby, in every chat room, in every

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ground, you know, in every
group and all they're they're ripping on the

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products too because of you know,
certain issues. We're not sitting here making

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fun of them for it. And
and I don't think figured out how any

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of the guys groups are either.
We're trying to you know, we're trying

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to point us out to improve their
processes. And look, I'd be more

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than happy to have them on here
as a sponsor as long as there are

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no stipulations about any you know,
criticism when it is due, right right.

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But we'll see what happens. Hopefully
the QC, you know, gets

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a little bit better. We're gonna
move on now, man, because there's

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a you know, we love our
scandals and we love our lawsuits. My

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man, I know, I know. It's back to the law and order

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music. Yeah it is, Uh, it is. Lawsuit time. Wouldn't

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be that time wouldn't be. We're
starting out January twenty twenty three with a

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strong one here a Lebron James rookie
and the six million dollar lawsuit. This

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one, crazy, man, I
see. This is where things get complicated

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very because for those of you that
don't know, there's a Lebron James Exquisite

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Rookie out there that is in a
I believe it's a BGS nine slab.

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Yeah, it's out of ninety nine. So it's the true RPA an I

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E nine. And there have been
accusations that this card has had the patch

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replaced. Yes, Mamuseum, a
really good friend of mine is the one

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who keeps track of all these high
end rpas as a database online. Definitely

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check it out and check out a
show wax museum again. But yes,

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there's evidence that the patch has been
swapped out right, And every time this

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card pops up on the market,
and the most recent time that it popped

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up on the market was Golden Headed
up for auction. Of course, of

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course Golden Head enough for auction.
It got it was pointed out again,

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I believe it was card Poe Yes
decided to do that, and Golden rightfully

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took it down. And I only
say rightfully because I'm not questioning. I'm

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not in a position to question the
authenticity of the patch. I don't know

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if it's been swapped out. I
don't know it's really I don't know enough

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about when you have and you gotta
pull it, but exactly, and that's

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the thing, when there is a
question around it, the you know,

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the proper thing to do is to
pull it until everything is completely resolved and

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you know for sure. And if
it turns out that it has not been

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swapped, hey great, run it
again. If it turns out that it

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has been swapped, then don't run
it. Again now since then, the

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owner of the card has decided to
take it out in public. Yes,

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um, I believe there was a
picture of Snoop Dogg holding it at a

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Lakers game, which which was kind
of interesting, and I did appreciate the

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fact that, like he didn't let
Snoop hold it by himself, there was

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still another hand. Yeah, look, I would trust him. I would

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do it, Menoop, it's Snoop. Not years ago, Snoop, I

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wouldn't, but today and I still
would. And I love I love those

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pictures of you know, Snoop and
Martha Stewart, and there's that meme that

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you know says that, hey,
one of these two is a convicted felon,

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right, and it's not Snoop exactly. So I mean, look,

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if if you're standing right there,
they're in the middle of standing or whatever

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handed to him, let them think
it's yeah, you're getting the card back.

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It's not a field. They're you
know, they're preding it around,

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you know, sitting pretty much courtside
at exact those games. And I don't

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know if that was the right thing
to do, because it's like, all

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right, they're kind of rubbing it
in and if it does turn out to

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be fake. Yeah, yeah,
crap on that. But they decided to

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sue card Porn for defamation, you
know, because they're trying to say that

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look, it's it's it's legitate.
In addition to definition, they're saying they

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suffered a loss of reputation, shame, mortification and and I love this one,

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and injury to their respective feelings.
Well, this is this has got

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to be This has to be fouled
in California because I think that's value of

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the lebron patch card. They're seeking
damage of at least six million. No,

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I wonder what the value is on
the injury to their feeling. Yeah,

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that one's and like I said,
I think that's got to be a

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California thing because that's you know,
um marking America. Yeah, that would

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even an Illinois that wouldn't fly that, So that it's one of those it's

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one of those things. Like I
just don't know where this is going to

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go now. According to the latest
article, they have had a very hard

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time serving this lawsuit to the people
behind card. The best part it's not

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exactly a secret as to who's behind
Well, it's under a little bit of

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a debate depending on who you ask, because there's a lot of people that

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will tell you if you look at
the history of card Porn's post, there's

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a certain time when they changed and
significantly in tone, and there's a lot

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of people believe that it was bought
out or purchased, and there's multiple people

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running it now and maybe one person
that has controlling interest that wasn't the owner

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before. I personally still think it's
the exact same person. But the funny

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thing is that they can't serve it
because they don't know who it is,

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right And that's the and that's the
thing. It's like you're trying to serve

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a lawsuit and and frankly, I'm
kind of shocked that they haven't, you

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know, haven't sent a subpoena to
Meta who is you know, who owns

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So what I was gonna say is
to find out who it is, like

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looking at ips and everything. I
mean, they can they can find out

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where card porns posts are coming from
if they really wanted to, Like,

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I don't think they can. I
don't think you can look up a you

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know, an IP on a on
a random Instagram post and find out where

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it's coming from without Meta can do
it. That's what I'm saying. That's

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what I'm saying. They can find
out. Yeah, Now, if it

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is the person that we think it
is, they are dual based, there

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are splitting time between the United States
and another country, and it is possible

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that they haven't been able to serve
them because he's in the other he's currently

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in the other country. Yeah,
but there's got to be a representative of

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some sort, right, you know, behind it, because I've got a

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feeling that it's not and it's not. You know, he's got it registered

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as a corporation of some sort.
Yes, Um, you know, especially

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when you're doing what they're doing and
things like that, and you know there's

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the potential for lawsuits and stuff like
that, so you would you would think

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that they would be smart enough to
register it as a corporation, but we

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don't know. Well, this is
gonna be really interesting because I mean it

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comes into the question. You know, these social media accounts, there's way

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more than card porn that are that
are doing things like this in the hobby

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and you know, like this card
even if it's proven that it's real,

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which I don't think, you can
look at the evidence and say that it

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hasn't been altered. It has been
altered, and that's why every single time

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it goes up for say, they
still own it. But I mean,

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let's just say for some sake that
it's deemed authentic or whatever. I mean,

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I still don't think you can do
anything on this, but it does

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bring up some interesting questions in terms
of what if you want to call them

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influencers or large accounts or social media
presences in the hobby, and how they

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how they go at people. Yeah, and I think, well, I

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think at one point in time there
was a letter from upper Deck that did

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deem it authentic if it's if this
is the same woman I'm thinking of,

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but I think that that letter may
have been withdrawn. I'm pretty sure if

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it was, it was withdrawn because
I remember when this was called out.

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That's what. Because I follow the
tracker heavily, I remember it when it

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was added to wax Museums Tractor because
it was a big deal. This is

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one of the more well known ones
ever, and so I mean, this

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isn't something that's popped up in the
last six months. And that's why I

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also kind of have a problem with
them going after card porn in particular because

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they're far from the only only person, an only company, and only group

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of people that have gone on at
crusade to show people that this is bullshit

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and that this is fake. There's
fun. I mean this card card porn

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for clout and because they think they
can get that much more money from card

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porn that they can't get from other
people. But this particular card has been

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not only has been called out on
you know, blood forums everywhere, um,

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yeah, everywhere that there's a p
So why not go after blowout?

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You know they want the forums and
its people. You could go after freaking

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lots of different stuff. I mean, there's tons of people you could go

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after for this card, but you
choose to go after card porn because you

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think that you can get the most
money out of them, and that because

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there's been card porn stuff didn't get
the reach that a lot of other stuff

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did in the past. This card
has been attacked and by countless people for

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for the right reasons a million times. And that's where I have a big

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problem with the lawsuit. I think
it's fucking ridiculous. But they're going they're

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one singling card poorn out because they
think they that's the only people they can

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sue for six million and maybe get
something back for their injured feelings. Now

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here's the thing though, the injured
feelings. I think that gets that one

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gets tossed. No shit, that
immediately gets tossed when you see the pictures

407
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that they posted with super Yeah after
the lawsuit was filed of you know,

408
00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:41.279
them smiling and having a good time, waving in the air at you know,

409
00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:44.799
the basketball game and you know,
things like that. My feelings were

410
00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:48.079
hurt so bad I had to go
hang out with Snoop and go to go

411
00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:52.880
courtside. It's some basketball games and
parade it around everywhere exactly. And that's

412
00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:57.519
that's one of idea that's not that's
not a feelings or hurt, you know,

413
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a better reaction. There's a lot
of podcasts and maybe they listen to

414
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better help there you go, Better
help comes sponsor the show. Now yeah,

415
00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:10.720
um so it's I'm curious to follow
this one. I really want to

416
00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:14.200
see, you know, kind of
where this how this plays out. Oh

417
00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:18.079
yeah, we will definitely be following
this as it goes along because this is

418
00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:23.359
very interesting, especially from a content
creator aspect. You know, Yeah,

419
00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:27.119
that I'm quite interested in. But
you know, maybe they need that six

420
00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:32.960
million, Scott to pay bills.
And speaking of bill, we got bills

421
00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:37.119
to pay, so we'll be right
back, all right, those bills are

422
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:42.559
paid. Welcome back, everybody to
episode one hundred and seventy. Oh,

423
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let me get that potograph and Scott. We're gonna go on now to Movers

424
00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:56.559
and Shakers, the segment that is
taken the nation by storm. But we've

425
00:30:56.599 --> 00:31:00.039
got a little special edition this week
because you know, normally, you and

426
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:04.359
I we go back with you know, each half a person or two that

427
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:07.920
we that's moving up the ladder and
everything. But we both agreed this week

428
00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:11.319
there's really only one guy. Now, we do have some honorable mentions at

429
00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:14.759
the end that we'll get to,
but well, why don't we start.

430
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:17.799
Why don't we start with the honorable
mentions? It will build up. We'll

431
00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:22.519
start with the honorable mention. So
honorable mention number one is welcome back Jonathan

432
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:26.880
Isaac. There you go. Orlando
Magic player has not played a game since

433
00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:30.039
twenty twenty. He finally came back
yesterday and they only had him in for

434
00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:33.359
ten minutes. Will is fine.
They're you know, they're building him back

435
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:36.559
up again. But he put up
ten points in ten minutes. I'm liking

436
00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:38.599
what I'm seeing out of him,
and I'm excited to see him back on

437
00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:42.200
the court. Absolutely and sticking on
the basketball court, you guys need to

438
00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:47.119
be paying attention to this year's draft
class. You can continue not to.

439
00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:52.559
I'm getting some stuff for incredibly cheap, thank you. But but my honorable

440
00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:56.279
mentions none other than Walker Kessler.
Oh my god, this dude is a

441
00:31:56.319 --> 00:32:01.160
beast. Just put up a twenty
ten the other night. He's coming into

442
00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:07.359
his own. This kid can playball. He can block, he can rebound,

443
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:09.920
he can shoot, he can shoot
from the outside. He's fast,

444
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:15.039
he can play a transition. He
is a perfect fit. Walker Kessler absolutely

445
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:17.920
incredible. If you're not taking a
look at him, look at him fast.

446
00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:22.720
But this week's movers and shakers,
Scott has to be about only one

447
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:29.079
man and that man one guy,
one guy, really, Hachimur. I

448
00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:35.359
was kind of shocked when I saw
this trade. Yeah, I understand why

449
00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:40.240
the Wizard's got, you know,
moved him, but it's one of those

450
00:32:40.240 --> 00:32:45.160
things like I don't know. And
then to find out, all right,

451
00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:49.119
he's going to the Lakers, Yes, and that's the that's the big thing

452
00:32:49.240 --> 00:32:52.559
right there. You know, the
fan base that the Lakers have, well,

453
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:57.319
the fan base that the Lakers have, coupled with the fact that he's

454
00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:01.839
considered a god in his home country
and the Lakers are considered a god of

455
00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:07.640
a team in that country. You
add that together. This kid doesn't have

456
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:09.839
to put up twenty five or thirty
points a game. This kid can be

457
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:15.920
a serviceable, good person in the
hot for his team and for the Lakers,

458
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:22.359
and he is going to get significant
bump off of this massive Now,

459
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:28.200
I don't think he gets a Shoheo
Tani type of bump. No no,

460
00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:32.759
no, no no. But but
he is viewed in Japan from for basketball,

461
00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:38.559
you know, the very same way
that Shohio Tani is viewed for baseball.

462
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:46.000
Yes, I'm seeing a I'm seeing
a massive increase for him well,

463
00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:50.880
and I also think it's a good
fit for him team wise, because the

464
00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:58.039
Lakers. The one thing that he
struggled with is fitting into that normal one

465
00:33:58.079 --> 00:34:04.720
through five rotation, normal general one
to five rotation that the Wizards play the

466
00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:09.079
Lakers, they play zero through zero. They don't have positions, they play

467
00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:15.400
whoever fits around Lebron that's healthy,
and when Anthony Davis is in whoever fits

468
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:17.960
in Lebron, Lebron in a d
that are healthy, but they don't play

469
00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:22.079
position basketball, and I think that's
going to help him. I don't know

470
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:28.000
if he's necessarily the shooter that they
really need, but he can develop into

471
00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:32.400
it. I guarantee you the development
he's going to get and the mentorship he's

472
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:36.880
going to get in LA is going
to be a thousand times better than it

473
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:40.159
is in Washington. Well, he's
not a horrible shooter there, No,

474
00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:45.719
he's not. But I'm saying he's
got the potential to be elite. Ruey

475
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:50.800
Hotchi mura has I'm telling you he
has not hit his potential. That you

476
00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:53.760
know my rule three year rule.
Ruy's not there yet. He was hurt

477
00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:59.159
his rookie year. He's struggled a
little bit this year. But give this

478
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:01.480
kid a couple of years to develop. He's got the potential. You put

479
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:07.159
him in LA around Lebron ad people
like that that he can learn from and

480
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:12.360
an organization that shown that they can
get the best out of a lot of

481
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:16.480
players. This could be a big
trade for LA and they only sent none

482
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:21.679
in three seconds. Well, but
they aren't even they aren't even seconds for

483
00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:23.400
the next you know, a couple
of years in let's be on his second

484
00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:29.000
round draft picks. Rarely well,
no, those three seconds, those three

485
00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:32.159
seconds get packaged either for a first
or another player in trade. It's really

486
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:37.760
right, but it's you're talking about
one of So one of the seconds is

487
00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:40.360
a twenty twenty nine, right,
second round draft big one of them,

488
00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:45.000
I believes a I think it's a
twenty twenty eight, twenty eight, yeah,

489
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:46.719
and then there's I think the other
one was a twenty twenty six,

490
00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:52.199
but it's a potential swap, right, So you know, we're not we're

491
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:55.039
not talking about like, hey,
next year's draft class or yeah no,

492
00:35:55.039 --> 00:35:58.480
no, no, or the year
after that or the year after that.

493
00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:05.679
Brownie talking no no, Brownie Junior
will be in the league before the first

494
00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:09.000
draft. Yeah for the first most
draft pick trades, you know, coming

495
00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:14.519
to play. So we're talking about
guys that are in like fifth grade right

496
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:20.079
right now, yeah, or maybe
fourth grade if they you know you know

497
00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:22.000
where I'm going with that. Yeah, So it's not a it's not like

498
00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:25.199
those draft picks are gonna have any
impact. So it was basically, yeah,

499
00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:30.719
it was basically players for hockey exactly, And I think I think not

500
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:34.280
will play very well with Kuzma.
Oh, yes, very well. Yeah,

501
00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:37.480
I think I think those two will
jel very quickly together. But I'm

502
00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:40.800
really excited to see what Hoshi Murro
is gonna do in LA. No so

503
00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:45.320
am I I think this is the
best possible place to get the most out

504
00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:52.239
of him. I think I think
all signs are pointing toward him being someone

505
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:55.639
that is gonna be, in my
opinion, if they're gonna go on any

506
00:36:55.679 --> 00:37:00.639
type of run, if they're going
to be any team to contend with,

507
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:05.360
He's going to be a big reason
why this is a trade that could shift

508
00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:10.920
the Lakers towards playing some amazing basketball
if he can live up to the potential.

509
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:15.760
I think going to LA and playing
around all of those elite players,

510
00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:20.760
playing in that atmosphere, he's the
type of person that can handle it.

511
00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:24.559
As he's been kind of like Luca. He dealt with the media overseas loving

512
00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:30.199
him forever, so he's he's used
to that. He's used to the bright

513
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:34.280
lights. He's fit for LA.
People might not know that because he's a

514
00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:37.239
quiet kid, but he's had all
of that stuff he's been through all of

515
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:42.280
that. I think that's what I
think, that's what LA needs is the

516
00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:46.519
quiet kid, because they've got loud
and obnoxious players. Are plenty of those.

517
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:50.760
I mean had Lebron's loud and obnoxious
enough, right, you know,

518
00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:53.599
the entire league, but you've you
know, I think they need that that

519
00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:59.199
kid who's just gonna be quiet,
silent assassin. He's gonna say well,

520
00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:01.639
but he's also he's there's no controversy
around him. No, you know,

521
00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:07.480
he doesn't spout off his mouth about
anything. Yeah, he's you know,

522
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:09.760
gonna be one of those guys it's
just gonna shut up and play ball.

523
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:14.800
But not because somebody's telling him to
shut up and play ball. But yes,

524
00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:16.760
that's just how he is. Yeah, he's dialed in. He's a

525
00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:22.559
dialed in quiet kid, which which
that comes also from his overseas upbringing obviously,

526
00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:25.320
um, you know, but being
used to the bright lights already.

527
00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:30.360
I don't see any learning period learning
curve for him. I think he fits

528
00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:32.280
right in. Um. And I
know a lot of people are saying,

529
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:37.880
oh, it's ruly blah blah blah, he's been awful this year. Just

530
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:43.400
just wait, but game one or
two he's gonna put up fifty I'm just

531
00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:45.159
saying, just wait, but look
at who Look at who he's been playing

532
00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:47.480
around his career. I know,
you know, look at the other players

533
00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:51.760
on the team that you know in
Washington that he's been playing with. It's

534
00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:53.920
yeah, he's of course you're gonna
put up a You're not gonna put up

535
00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:58.400
great numbers. You're not gonna look
great when you don't have any surrounding players

536
00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:04.880
that are gonna help you come great. Exactly. So once again, Ruey

537
00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:08.280
Hotchie Murragh headed to the Lakers for
Kendrick Nunn and a bunch of seconds about

538
00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:13.800
fifty years from now. So we'll
see what happens there. But Ruey is

539
00:39:13.880 --> 00:39:19.639
definitely the mover and shaker this week. But as always, keep your eye

540
00:39:19.639 --> 00:39:23.480
out for Walker Kessler and Jionathan Isaac. But Scott, we'll move on now

541
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:27.679
to our last topic of the day. And I mean we can't can't I

542
00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:30.280
mean not have an episode without touching
on the NFL playoffs. Bro. I

543
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:35.000
mean, we're getting down to the
end of the NFL season. We've got

544
00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:38.519
our our final four, so to
speak. We got Philly, we got

545
00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:45.760
San Francisco, we've got Cincinnati,
and we've got Kansas City, and frankly,

546
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:52.159
I am not surprised to see any
of these teams in the respective conference

547
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:58.000
championship games. No, there was
no surprise whatsoever with any of those teams.

548
00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:02.039
And frankly, if Buffalo had beaten
Cincinnati, that would not have been

549
00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:08.119
unexpected either. You know, Kansas
City and either Cincinnati or Buffalo were expected

550
00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:14.400
to be in that game, and
the Eagles in San Francisco were expected to

551
00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:20.880
be in that game before the season
started. Yeah, now there is there

552
00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:27.760
is one one, just one completely
like that. If at the beginning of

553
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:30.559
the season, or frankly, even
like five six games into the season,

554
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:32.280
if you had said this was going
to happen, people would have you were

555
00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:37.679
on Yeah, people would have thought
you were on crack. Yeah, and

556
00:40:38.639 --> 00:40:45.480
look, it's obvious rock party.
And I will say, look, as

557
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:50.480
an Iowa State alum, yeah,
I am absolutely ecstatic about it. Of

558
00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:53.199
course, Um, I have watched
him play, you know, when he

559
00:40:53.239 --> 00:40:57.360
was there. I'm not I'm not
a huge college football guy, but I

560
00:40:57.400 --> 00:41:00.800
do catch the Io State games when
I when I came and you know,

561
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:02.760
and I've seen him play over the
last four years. And look the kids

562
00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:08.079
got talent. Oh and frankly,
I'm shocked that he was that he went

563
00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:12.679
that late in the draft. Me
too, I don't think I and I

564
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:16.039
really would love to see San Francisco
go on and win a Super Bowl,

565
00:41:16.440 --> 00:41:21.280
not just not just because of the
whole brock Purty story, but I'm I

566
00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:24.760
love Robbie Gold. I mean,
dude lives. Dude lives a mile away

567
00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:29.159
from me. Yeah, you know
seeing Ronalds. Look, he's just he's

568
00:41:29.239 --> 00:41:32.239
like super down to earth, like
just a great guy. I want I

569
00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:37.239
want to see him get that ring
now. I also want to see what

570
00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:45.679
happens because I believe that the lowest
drafted quarterback to win a Super Bowl is

571
00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:52.400
Tom Brady, Yes, who was
drafted one hundred ninety ninth h not quite

572
00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:58.000
the last draft pick, but far
enough back or nobody nobody really expected that

573
00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:01.320
to happen, And frankly, nobody
expe did brock Purty to even get playing

574
00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:07.280
time this year because you started the
season with Trey Lance and Jimmy Garoppolo.

575
00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:10.639
Yeah, so what do you what
do you do? Like? It is

576
00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:15.760
a complete freak thing. Don't know
how I mean, I know it happened.

577
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:19.039
It happened as an injury. But
yeah, it was. It's insane.

578
00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:22.480
No, I agree, And you
know, from a hobby standpoint,

579
00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:28.679
obviously, people are all these quarterbacks. You know, Hurts, you got

580
00:42:28.760 --> 00:42:30.519
Hurts, you got Party, you
got Burrow, and the homes. All

581
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:35.760
these quarterbacks in the hobby are huge. But right now, Brock Purty just

582
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:42.119
in the last week, Brock Parties
ungraded mosaic Bass auto sold for seven hundred

583
00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:46.360
and twelve dollars. A Joe Burrow
PSA nine rookie Phoenix auto sold for six

584
00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:54.320
to fifty. A Jalen Hurts blew
Optic on card rated rookie sold for seven

585
00:42:54.440 --> 00:43:00.719
hundred out of thirty five. His
raw Mosaic Genesis or for over a thousand

586
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:06.440
dollars. I know his I mean, but he's beating out Pat Mahomes select

587
00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:12.159
field levels, which that year was
when field levels were actually graded. That

588
00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:17.480
we're actually very very rare. His
cards are going through the roof right now

589
00:43:17.639 --> 00:43:22.800
and a lot and one thing that
I find hilarious is the million people online

590
00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:27.840
saying that after he loses, or
when he loses, blah blah blah,

591
00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:31.079
all his cards are gonna plumb it. Guys knows they're not. They're gonna

592
00:43:31.159 --> 00:43:37.000
settle back into something like in a
general area like every card does. Ye,

593
00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:39.440
Now there is all the time.
You'll be bitching about someone new in

594
00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:44.760
six weeks and the same freaking thing
will happen. There will be a drop

595
00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:47.679
that comes out of nowhere and does
something amazing, or cards are gonna go

596
00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:52.239
up. The ship drives me crazy. There will be a drop, yes,

597
00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:55.840
but there's always a drop once the
season's over, right, sport,

598
00:43:55.920 --> 00:44:00.119
it doesn't make a difference. There's
going to be an offseason drop and he's

599
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:04.039
gonna have preseason height because he's shown. If you can't, you can't watch

600
00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:07.039
these games and tell me he hasn't
shown you enough to say that he belongs

601
00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:10.639
in this league. No, he
absolutely belongs in his league. But the

602
00:44:10.639 --> 00:44:16.559
biggest concern is what happens after this
season. Garoppolo is probably not going to

603
00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:22.000
be back with San Francisco. So
the question is you have Trey Lance as

604
00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:25.679
your starter, and pretty sure San
Francisco's committed to you know, Trey Lance

605
00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:30.199
as the starter they are, But
I think Purdy can easily beat Trey Lance

606
00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:35.159
out in training. Can't. Well, But if he doesn't and he ends

607
00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:39.159
up as the backup. Does San
Francisco hold him with the concern that Trey

608
00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:45.039
Lance might get hurt again? Or
does San Francisco trade him? Yeah?

609
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Or do they not even wait?
Do they trade him to try to move

610
00:44:50.599 --> 00:44:54.159
up in the draft? Yeah,
you know, to a team that needs

611
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a quarterback. And the nice thing
about trading for Purdy versus drafting a quarterback

612
00:45:01.079 --> 00:45:05.440
out of out of you know,
straight out of college, is Purdy's got

613
00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:10.079
seven games of regular season experience,
plus you know, the too playoff their

614
00:45:10.119 --> 00:45:15.599
games, work in the film room, like a practice against the number one

615
00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:21.079
defense, lots of lots of benefits
you have, you have film of him

616
00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:25.800
playing against NFL teams. Yes,
it's a lot easier to evaluate that than

617
00:45:25.840 --> 00:45:31.599
it is to evaluate a quarterback that's
coming out of college. So does Santrancisco

618
00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:35.760
make that trade? Quite possible?
You know, I have I have no

619
00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:37.480
idea what they would wind up doing
it. Don't get me wrong. It's

620
00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:40.800
a good problem for them to have. But does a team like let's say

621
00:45:40.840 --> 00:45:45.039
Oakland, you know, try to
make a trade they need a quarterback,

622
00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:46.800
they have the fourth draft pick,
and then it would it would be really

623
00:45:46.880 --> 00:45:51.599
interesting to see a team, you
know, trade a first rounder, you

624
00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:55.039
know, especially considering he was literally
drafted last. That's never been done before

625
00:45:55.079 --> 00:46:02.079
either. No, it's gonna be
interesting to see what happened. I love

626
00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:05.559
this final four. I think it's
gonna be great. I have, of

627
00:46:05.599 --> 00:46:10.079
course, and cheering on CMC,
and then I've got my my about to

628
00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:14.760
be brother in law, big Cincinnati
fans, so you know, we're cheering

629
00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:16.800
for the Bengals too. So I'm
hoping for Bengals and forty nine ers.

630
00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:21.559
I think that would be the most
fun. But out of all these guys,

631
00:46:21.559 --> 00:46:25.320
and looking at the final four,
the quarterback that I've taken away the

632
00:46:25.400 --> 00:46:30.840
most fun from. Forget Brock Purty. I look at Jalen Hurts, and

633
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:35.559
I look at Joe Burrow, and
I look at this is the year that

634
00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:39.159
these two quarterbacks, especially Hurts,
because Burrow kind of already showed it to

635
00:46:39.239 --> 00:46:43.840
you a little bit. He's just
proving it wasn't a fluke, right,

636
00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:47.679
They're showing you that they've really got
that dog in them, so to speak.

637
00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:52.760
They've got that that swagger. I
mean, Joe Burrow swaggers on match.

638
00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:57.760
We know that. But what Jalen
Hurts is doing with an incredible Philadelphia

639
00:46:57.840 --> 00:47:01.800
team around him is is quite impressive
as well. So I mean, you

640
00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:06.960
couldn't ask for a better Final four. I think we're gonna have some amazing

641
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:09.880
matchups. But from a hobby aspect, I mean, look at look at

642
00:47:09.880 --> 00:47:13.960
what's here we've got. We had
so many I mean, Tom Brady,

643
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:17.320
all these amazing quarterbacks. Three years
ago, it was I mean five years

644
00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:21.800
ago, Brady Peyton, Big Band, Matt Ryan, Drew Brees, Philip

645
00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:25.639
Rivers. Now it's all the youth
movement is here and it's a lot of

646
00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:30.920
fun. And I do love the
hobby. I do love burrows comment after

647
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:37.239
they beat Buffalo about issuing the refunds
for the neutral Psyche game ticket, that

648
00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:39.360
was, well, that was about
the most insulting thing you can do.

649
00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:43.840
I mean, I understand you gotta
do it, but of course that's gonna

650
00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:47.440
insult No exactly. But but here's
the thing. I think Kansas City is

651
00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:55.079
much happier playing Cincinnati because they're playing
him at home. Yes, you know,

652
00:47:55.480 --> 00:48:00.440
as far as the lemar Fazette,
not necessarily the players are happy,

653
00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:07.400
but the organization is right because they're
getting that, they are getting the you

654
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:12.199
know, home the revenue, and
that's the that's the big thing I'm thinking.

655
00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:15.119
I'm thinking it's gonna wind up being, uh, Cincinnati and San Francisco,

656
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:19.480
though, well it easily could be. So that's your So your super

657
00:48:19.519 --> 00:48:24.159
Bowl pick too, now, Cincinnati
and San Francisco. Yeah, that's mine

658
00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:30.199
and my you know, I want
to say San Francisco to win it,

659
00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:34.639
me too, but but yeah,
but I think it's I think it's gonna

660
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:37.239
wind up going to Cincinnati. All
right. Well, hey, both of

661
00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:40.320
us got the same exact thing.
I really want CMC to get his ring,

662
00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:44.840
but honestly, San Francisco does not
know how to use him yet.

663
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:49.960
Once they figure out how to use
CMC, then I think they're unstoppable.

664
00:48:50.199 --> 00:48:52.079
If they can figure that out by
the Super Bowl, no one's gonna beat

665
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:55.519
them. But right now, they
do not know how to use Christian McCaffrey.

666
00:48:55.559 --> 00:49:00.679
It's it frustrates me every game watching
them because they just don't know how

667
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:04.719
to use them yet. But eventually
they'll get there. He's been there long

668
00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:07.039
enough. You think they would have
figured it out, I know, but

669
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:10.920
they haven't. They haven't, and
it's I mean, I know he's producing

670
00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:15.079
and he's having a good season and
everything, and you'd say, what are

671
00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:17.519
you talking about? He trusts me, see him can do a lot more.

672
00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:21.280
And what gets what gets stranger in
that situation. It's not like he

673
00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:25.719
was there before Rock Purty right became
the quarterback. Right, So like I

674
00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:29.840
understand, Hey, there's a quarterback
change, and you know two weeks into

675
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:31.559
you being there and things like that. Great, I get I get that.

676
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:36.639
But in this case, it's been
consistent. Yeah no, yeah,

677
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:40.239
yeah. And if they can figure
out how to use in the right way,

678
00:49:40.280 --> 00:49:44.920
which has nothing to do or back
change, it's all coaching. If

679
00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:47.760
they can figure out how to utilize
CMC and all of his talents, because

680
00:49:47.760 --> 00:49:52.639
they're utilizing one right now, then
they could easily end up winning that game.

681
00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:55.239
But I don't think they figure it
out in time. So I got

682
00:49:55.239 --> 00:49:59.519
the Bengals as well, So both
of us got the Bengals versus forty nine

683
00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:01.760
ers and the Angles coming out on
top. We will see what happens,

684
00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:07.559
but we'll definitely next week at least
know who's in the super Bowl. So

685
00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:12.679
but we're looking at we're looking at
some amazingly interesting weekends coming up in the

686
00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:16.159
hobby with football. I mean,
these games are gonna are gonna cause some

687
00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:22.719
big swings and could cement some quarterbacks
you know as the future at least in

688
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:27.320
the Hobby leading into next year.
Yeah. Absolutely, well, Scott,

689
00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:30.320
I think that's probably a pretty good
time to wrap up this week's show.

690
00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:34.079
What do you think? I think? So we will be back next week.

691
00:50:34.159 --> 00:50:39.079
Obviously we will know what happens with
the respective championship games, so we'll

692
00:50:39.119 --> 00:50:44.800
have we may have to repredict the
Super Bowl. Yeah, I'm still sticking

693
00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:49.519
by my original predictions though. No, yes, I'm definitely sticking by my

694
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:53.480
original prediction. Hopefully we don't have
to change it, but yeah, but

695
00:50:53.599 --> 00:50:58.960
if so, then we'll definitely at
least at least check out and see what

696
00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:00.920
we could do. But yes,
guys, we will be back next week.

697
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:05.159
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698
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699
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700
00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:20.639
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701
00:51:20.679 --> 00:51:25.519
sure to check out that episode.
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702
00:51:25.559 --> 00:51:30.800
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703
00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:35.000
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704
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:38.159
And of course we will be back
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705
00:51:38.199 --> 00:51:43.119
of really cool stuff coming up,
guys, so make sure to stay tuned.

706
00:51:43.239 --> 00:51:45.280
Check out the socials. They're gonna
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707
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:50.199
media content and some one off stuff
for you here in the future, so

708
00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:53.079
definitely stay tuned. But till next
week, you guys know the deal.

709
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Keep ripping those tacks, pulling those
hits. Talk to you then, Thae

