WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.080 --> 00:00:08.720 All right, welcome back and joining us now as author Jared Julia. He's 2 00:00:08.759 --> 00:00:13.080 also a parent. He's also somebody homeschooled as kids, and he is an 3 00:00:13.160 --> 00:00:16.839 activist and I don't think he homeschooling because but we will be talking about some 4 00:00:16.960 --> 00:00:23.800 homeschooling as well. But he also has a book they kind of teach us 5 00:00:23.800 --> 00:00:27.000 some fundamental truth to parents about what is going on in schools, as well 6 00:00:27.079 --> 00:00:32.759 as in a format that parents can use with their children. The book is 7 00:00:32.880 --> 00:00:38.840 called Critical Feather Theory The Red Offenders, and I think that's a pretty good 8 00:00:38.880 --> 00:00:43.320 name because, as one person said, it's kind of a cross between Alice 9 00:00:43.359 --> 00:00:46.799 in Wonderland and Animal Farm, and I kind of feel like that's where I 10 00:00:46.840 --> 00:00:50.960 live on a regular basis. So joining us now is Jared Julia. Thank 11 00:00:50.960 --> 00:00:53.560 you for joining us, sir, Thank you so much for having me. 12 00:00:53.640 --> 00:00:56.039 David. Now, tell us little bit about how you got into this. 13 00:00:56.119 --> 00:01:00.840 I mentioned homeschooling because I know that you have comments about that your kids went 14 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:03.439 through school, right, and that's why I got you involved in this, 15 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:06.799 right, Yeah, they went through the public school system. I think that 16 00:01:06.879 --> 00:01:11.079 if I was younger, I might have homeschooled my kids because things have just 17 00:01:11.120 --> 00:01:15.000 gotten progressively worse as things have gone along. So I am active in the 18 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:19.319 homeschooling movement and I go to a lot of their conferences and things like that. 19 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:25.439 But yeah, the way in which I got involved was during I've always 20 00:01:25.480 --> 00:01:29.359 had this belief that the school system there's something wrong with what our kids are 21 00:01:29.400 --> 00:01:32.640 being taught, but I couldn't really put my finger on it. And then 22 00:01:32.799 --> 00:01:36.560 as the slowdowns happened, with the pandemic and lockdowns and all that, I 23 00:01:36.640 --> 00:01:40.480 had the time to really research it. And as I'm peeling back the layers 24 00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:44.079 of the onion, I was pretty disturbed by some of the stuff that I 25 00:01:44.159 --> 00:01:49.400 found out that that goes into the K through twelve curriculum, how it's created. 26 00:01:51.079 --> 00:01:53.480 So but I also saw that there were a lot of academics that had 27 00:01:53.519 --> 00:01:57.519 done a great job of describing the problem. So but I wanted to create 28 00:01:57.560 --> 00:02:00.640 something a little more accessible. That's why I get the idea for our graphic 29 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:05.319 novel. So there's a little teacher bird in a little schoolhouse, and she 30 00:02:05.400 --> 00:02:08.240 teaches the little chicks that if they have blue feathers, their privilege, and 31 00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:14.000 if they have green feathers then they're then they're then they're a victim, and 32 00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:16.000 uh, and she's teaching critical feather theory, and of course the parents get 33 00:02:16.080 --> 00:02:21.400 upset, and she denies that they're teaching critical feather theory because she says that 34 00:02:21.479 --> 00:02:27.520 it's only taught to second year law students, you know, And so basically 35 00:02:27.560 --> 00:02:30.960 it kind of tries to make a humorous you know, it's a humorous take 36 00:02:31.039 --> 00:02:36.360 on really a subject that a lot of parents find pretty disturbing. Oh yeah, 37 00:02:36.439 --> 00:02:39.360 yeah, and we've seen these uh, these various colored birds hatching this 38 00:02:39.400 --> 00:02:42.840 plot for a very long time. But as you point out, most of 39 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:46.039 the stuff that's out there, it can be very rigorous academic stuff. I 40 00:02:46.039 --> 00:02:52.159 mean, I've seen very very detailed commentary about that. You know, even 41 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:59.919 going back to the the I'm trying to remember the author, Charlotte does Be 42 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:04.319 who said deliberate dumbing down of America. You know, they go into it 43 00:03:04.360 --> 00:03:07.120 in a great deal of detail. You're not going to be able to go 44 00:03:07.159 --> 00:03:09.719 through that with your kid. And as important for them to understand what this 45 00:03:09.919 --> 00:03:15.800 is and to have discernment about this, even more so important than for the 46 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:20.240 parents to have it, because they need as soon as that stuff goes up, 47 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:22.080 it's like, oh, I know what this is. When we taught 48 00:03:22.080 --> 00:03:30.039 our kids, I would teach them what the consensus false ideas were, and 49 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:32.520 then I would oppose it and say, so, here's what they're going to 50 00:03:32.599 --> 00:03:37.719 tell you. Here's why that's not true. And that's really what you're doing 51 00:03:37.759 --> 00:03:44.000 here in a graphic way, isn't it. Yeah? And it's unfortunately public 52 00:03:44.039 --> 00:03:46.879 schools aren't doing what you did with your kids. They're just in doctrining. 53 00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:52.240 They're just telling them one viewpoint and they're not really opening it up to multiple 54 00:03:52.319 --> 00:03:57.680 viewpoints. And that's really the whole point of education. They're literally doing the 55 00:03:57.800 --> 00:04:03.080 opposite of what education is. And it's because it's derived from something called postmodernism. 56 00:04:03.400 --> 00:04:08.879 And without getting too dry, there were a lot of unrependent Marxists like 57 00:04:08.919 --> 00:04:16.680 Herbert Marcusa and Michau Foucaut who created this belief system. And this is what 58 00:04:16.720 --> 00:04:20.399 a lot of what kids are being taught, you know, this is what's 59 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:27.000 showing up in the in the curriculum. And so it's not just being nice 60 00:04:27.040 --> 00:04:30.079 to everyone and getting rid of racism and getting rid of all unfairness and getting 61 00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:34.720 rid of all sexism. It's really a tearing down of society. Which is 62 00:04:34.800 --> 00:04:42.040 really what Fucaut's work is about. It's called deconstruction, and it's really tearing 63 00:04:42.079 --> 00:04:47.279 apart society and tearing apart our communities. And what I try to say in 64 00:04:47.319 --> 00:04:51.480 the book is I try to briefly and humorously explain what that is, but 65 00:04:51.519 --> 00:04:56.839 then also give parents hope that you can fight against this, you can push 66 00:04:56.920 --> 00:05:00.160 back against this. You don't have to take this. This is this is 67 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:04.319 not an inevitability. This is definitely up for grabs, and it's worth the 68 00:05:04.360 --> 00:05:09.639 fight because your kids are worth it. Yeah. Absolutely, yeah. I 69 00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:13.560 interviewed Shivan Fleet and I played a clip yesterday, I think it was of 70 00:05:14.439 --> 00:05:17.560 this Netflix thing three Body Problem. It was a Chinese sci fi and it 71 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:24.519 begins with the struggle sessions and it's a very moving, disturbing struggle session. 72 00:05:24.720 --> 00:05:27.199 But shi Van Fleet said, look what they're doing with all this stuff. 73 00:05:27.519 --> 00:05:30.120 It's not enough to not be racist. You've got to be anti white, 74 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:33.279 you know, and you've got to denounce yourself. And she said, this 75 00:05:33.319 --> 00:05:38.800 is precisely what the Communists were doing, what mal was doing and all the 76 00:05:38.839 --> 00:05:41.399 rest of the stuff. That's why you're spot on when you talk about it's 77 00:05:41.439 --> 00:05:45.279 Alice in Wonderland meets animal farm. So many times we'll look at what is 78 00:05:45.279 --> 00:05:47.639 happening in the news and we'll say this is crazy. Look at how crazy 79 00:05:47.680 --> 00:05:50.920 this is. And that's basically where people would stop a few years ago. 80 00:05:51.279 --> 00:05:55.480 I'm trying to get people see that it's more like animal farm than it is 81 00:05:55.519 --> 00:05:59.480 Alice in Wonderland. Now that this is a Marxist regime. You talk about 82 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:06.519 the had offenders. Offenders are actually the Gang of Four from the Cultural Revolution 83 00:06:06.639 --> 00:06:11.839 in China, and you mentioned the three body problem. The fascinating thing about 84 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:15.439 that scene with the struggle session is that a lot of the soldiers are actually 85 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:20.160 children because the Red Guards were not really like the SS. They were more 86 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:25.040 like the Hitler youth. The youngest were about twelve years old and the eldest 87 00:06:25.079 --> 00:06:29.879 were about eighteen. Because that's who you can get to destroy the society. 88 00:06:29.959 --> 00:06:32.480 That's who you can get to tear down the culture. Older people you can't 89 00:06:32.519 --> 00:06:36.560 really get them to do that. But kids were able to gleefully destroy these 90 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:44.920 priceless works of art from the Ming dynasty and other parts of cultural China. 91 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:48.920 And it was these kids that really enforced a lot of these insane rules. 92 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:55.680 And it's so much. It's so similar to what we're experiencing. Now. 93 00:06:55.959 --> 00:07:00.000 That's why I have the Red Offenders kind of follow along with the main characters. 94 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:02.839 So the main characters are not from a woke time period, and they 95 00:07:03.079 --> 00:07:06.240 experience all this woke and they're horrified. But of course the Red Offenders, 96 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:10.759 the Gang of Four are also experiencing and they're like, this is great, 97 00:07:11.000 --> 00:07:15.079 this is exactly what we want. Yeah. And the description of the book, 98 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:19.120 it's some guy from my nineteen so everyone gets catapulted in the future and 99 00:07:19.160 --> 00:07:21.680 he can't believe how crazy this is. And I told my wife, I 100 00:07:21.720 --> 00:07:26.959 said, that's me. I'm still in mind, still back in the nineteen 101 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:29.920 seventies as far the as culture goes, and it's like, I'm looking at 102 00:07:29.920 --> 00:07:31.800 this and like, what is going on? And you can't make sense of 103 00:07:31.800 --> 00:07:35.800 it unless you understand it's not Alice in Wonderland is animal Farm And then it 104 00:07:35.839 --> 00:07:41.399 all makes perfectly good sense and this has all just been recycled, relabeled. 105 00:07:41.639 --> 00:07:44.720 They call it woke. Isn't it interesting? Don't you find it interesting that 106 00:07:44.759 --> 00:07:47.480 they would use the term woke when these people are totally asleep to how they're 107 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:51.560 being used and what this is truly about. They get to pick the labels, 108 00:07:51.560 --> 00:07:55.439 of course, though, and we always use their labels. That's one 109 00:07:55.439 --> 00:07:58.399 of the things that bothers me so much about it. You understand the significance 110 00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:03.000 of red and the and so did she Van Fleet. But you know, 111 00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:07.000 the media comes in and tells everybody, Okay, all your Republicans and Conservatives, 112 00:08:07.040 --> 00:08:09.920 you're going to be read from now on. Okay, we're read. 113 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:11.040 We got our red hats and we got read this and read that, you 114 00:08:11.079 --> 00:08:15.120 know, and we're red states, and we just use their labels. And 115 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:18.199 they say, well, we're woke and you're read, and they go, 116 00:08:18.279 --> 00:08:22.959 okay, and we'll use those those labels. It's interesting that you say that, 117 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:26.319 because the Gang of Four they labeled everything, and actually the term political 118 00:08:26.319 --> 00:08:31.840 correctness was actually coined by Chairman Mao himself, So it was very very important 119 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:37.559 that they determined what everything was called so that they could make the framework for 120 00:08:37.639 --> 00:08:41.759 all political argument. And you're right, the woke left does the exact same 121 00:08:41.799 --> 00:08:45.200 thing today. They come up with all the terms. Once upon a time 122 00:08:45.320 --> 00:08:48.600 they were illegal aliens, but now they're undocumented immigrants, and now they're just 123 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:54.399 immigrants, and all of the different terminology over the years that have changed have 124 00:08:54.480 --> 00:08:56.960 all been changed by them, so which is why there are so many scenes 125 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:03.200 in the book where they have these little bird soldiers burning all the dictionaries so 126 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:07.639 that the woke overlords can change the definitions of words, because changing the definitions 127 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:13.960 of words and changing what labels we use in our political speech is central to 128 00:09:15.080 --> 00:09:20.159 their power. Oh yeah, AP is ruthless about it. The Associated Press. 129 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:22.879 They've got their speech rules, and if you want your article published, 130 00:09:22.919 --> 00:09:24.879 you will use their speech rules. You know, you're not going to be 131 00:09:24.879 --> 00:09:28.120 pro life, you're going to be anti abortion rights and all the stuff. 132 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:31.759 In terms of what they refer to as people who are illegal aliens, I 133 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:37.320 simply started calling them squatters. I think that's probably which is good disipense with 134 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:41.159 all these other things. Just call them squatters. But you know that would 135 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:46.080 kick me off from AP. So, you know, but they understand that 136 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:50.120 they've got to get the high ground rhetorically, and so they use the labels. 137 00:09:50.159 --> 00:09:52.159 Now. You know, before we leave the analogy of what's going on 138 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:56.879 with the three body problem in the struggle session, one of the key things 139 00:09:56.919 --> 00:09:58.039 about this, you know, we can all take our kids out and we 140 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:03.080 can homeschool them. But in that scene, you see the daughter there who 141 00:10:03.159 --> 00:10:07.960 is by herself. Everybody else is on board with a struggle session and yelling 142 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:13.279 and screaming at the people that they're beating and so forth, but she's horrified 143 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:16.000 by it. But she's the only one. We don't want to be in 144 00:10:16.039 --> 00:10:20.559 that situation where we're the only one left in a town or a society or 145 00:10:20.559 --> 00:10:24.440 a community, the only one who is not a part of this struggle session. 146 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:28.240 And like Alex Newman has said in the past, he said, you 147 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:31.519 know, you look at the school system, you realize, first of all, 148 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:33.320 it's like a burning building. You got to get your kid out of 149 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:37.679 there to save them. But then you've also got to put the fire out 150 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:41.320 so that it doesn't burn down the entire neighborhood. And that's really the important 151 00:10:41.320 --> 00:10:46.600 thing. I think we're you know, and looking at your book. If 152 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:50.200 somebody's got their kid in school, that'll help to wake them up, but 153 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:54.440 also really importantly helped to wake up the kid. But then there's other things 154 00:10:54.759 --> 00:10:58.519 tell us a little bit about what we can do to fight this woke ideology 155 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:03.559 so we don't have the neighborhood burned down. Well, I guess the first 156 00:11:03.559 --> 00:11:07.159 thing not to do is what I tried to do. My son was being 157 00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:09.120 taught something that I didn't agree with at our local high school, and I 158 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:15.240 confronted the teacher about it at a teacher conference and it was diplomatic and she 159 00:11:15.320 --> 00:11:18.360 actually immediately apologized and said, oh, I won't do that anymore. But 160 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:22.039 then the next year I found out from a neighbor that their kid was in 161 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:26.039 that teacher's same class, and she went right back to teaching the same thing 162 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:31.639 the very next year. So we need to understand that this isn't like the 163 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:37.840 left versus right ongoing debate, where we on the right really believe what we 164 00:11:37.879 --> 00:11:41.799 believe and people on the left really believe what they believe. The woke understand 165 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:46.720 that factually they're incorrect and it doesn't matter to them. So this is a 166 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:50.159 very very different kind of fight. And that's why I say you really need 167 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:52.639 to get involved. And the wonderful thing is that there's lots of people that 168 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:58.840 are out there parents defending education. Nicole Neely does a great job courages a 169 00:11:58.879 --> 00:12:03.240 habit dot Org. Alvin Louis is the national executive director. These people are 170 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:07.559 doing great work. So I would encourage your listeners to join one of these 171 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:11.600 organizations or other organizations. I have them listed in my website, and that's 172 00:12:11.639 --> 00:12:16.000 the really the way I would do it, instead of just being an individual, 173 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:18.840 because then you're like that person in the three body problem, You're the 174 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:22.000 one person crying out. But one thing that I would say about that scene 175 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:26.519 is that it looks like a majority are on the side of the of the 176 00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:31.159 Marxist but we find that that was never really the case, and that we 177 00:12:31.240 --> 00:12:35.200 see all these people doing the Nazis salute, you know, at these rallies, 178 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:39.759 you know, for the you know, during Hitler's reign, and we 179 00:12:39.879 --> 00:12:43.240 realize that, you know, most people were not. I mean, the 180 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:46.240 Nazis never got more than nineteen percent of the popular vote in Germany, so 181 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:52.120 they're never really they have the appearance of having overwhelming majority, but they really 182 00:12:52.159 --> 00:12:56.519 don't. This is a relatively small group of people. Now. Of course, 183 00:12:56.559 --> 00:13:00.960 they are well positioned in areas of education and in areas of the media 184 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:05.200 and in government. But there's a lot more of us. And I find 185 00:13:05.279 --> 00:13:09.320 that there's so many left wing parents that have bought my book and have reached 186 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:13.000 out to me via social media. I mean, we really have a natural 187 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:20.759 supermajority to fight this because which makes sense, because you know, just not 188 00:13:20.799 --> 00:13:22.799 wanting your kid to be taught this crap, you know, I mean that 189 00:13:22.879 --> 00:13:26.679 can't know a party affiliation, that can't know an ideology. It's just parental 190 00:13:26.679 --> 00:13:31.320 common sense. And so I think there's a lot more people on our side. 191 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:33.720 Oh, I agree than we realize. I agree. Yeah, they're 192 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:39.600 afraid of the perceived majority. And you know, even if it is a 193 00:13:39.639 --> 00:13:43.759 majority, we've got to have the integrity to stand up to that, even 194 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:48.639 if that means as the expression goes. I had friends who are from Japan. 195 00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:52.120 They said, we've got a saying here that the nail that sticks up 196 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:56.840 gets hammered down, so you know, kind of keep a low profile, 197 00:13:56.960 --> 00:13:58.399 do what everybody else is doing. Anything, Well, we can't live our 198 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:01.879 lives that way. If we live our lives that way, we'll all be 199 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:05.559 hammered down. We'll always have a boot stopping on our face. And so 200 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:09.600 we have to stand up to this, even if it doesn't work for us 201 00:14:09.639 --> 00:14:13.919 personally, enough people are going to see that they're not the only one. 202 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:18.200 That's the key thing that they always pull on everybody. Everybody thinks that they're 203 00:14:18.360 --> 00:14:22.399 alone in this when they really aren't. That's a key insight. Talk a 204 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:28.559 little bit about homeschooling, and you know what other options we have besides homeschooling, 205 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:31.440 But let's talk a little bit about homeschooling. We've had a lot of 206 00:14:31.440 --> 00:14:35.960 people and this is one of the things, Jared, going back to twenty 207 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:37.559 twenty, I said, you know, one of the silver linings about this, 208 00:14:37.600 --> 00:14:41.960 all this lockdown stuff and everything was I talked to parents for the longest 209 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:45.679 time. They could easily say that this is something that was coming from Washington 210 00:14:45.799 --> 00:14:48.759 or from the state Department of Education, maybe even from the local school board, 211 00:14:50.159 --> 00:14:52.039 maybe even at their own school. But they would always say, but 212 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:54.679 it's not in my kids classroom. They finally got a chance to see, 213 00:14:54.759 --> 00:14:58.919 yes, it is in your kids classroom. So, you know, when 214 00:14:58.919 --> 00:15:01.240 you look at this kind of stuff, and sometimes you know, we do 215 00:15:01.320 --> 00:15:07.480 need to resist this, you know, by opposing these curriculums with these government 216 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:11.919 schools that are there. But we also understand, as you were talking about 217 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:15.240 with the teacher, they're going to teach whatever they want to teach, regardless 218 00:15:15.720 --> 00:15:18.639 of what the state says, or the school board says, or the principal 219 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:22.600 says. That teacher is going to teach the kids what they want to teach 220 00:15:22.639 --> 00:15:28.639 them, and they put up TikTok videos talking about how they're going to put 221 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:31.639 out the revolutionary ideas that they hold to their kids, and they take delight 222 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:37.639 in the fact that they're doing it in a surreptitious way and against the system. 223 00:15:37.840 --> 00:15:39.240 So that's one of the things you're looking at. It's one of the 224 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:41.480 reasons why people at homeschool talk a little bit about homeschooling. As you said, 225 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:46.000 it was something that you didn't see at the time. Tell us what 226 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:50.960 you see with homeschooling now, Yeah, Well, I think that the pandemic 227 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:54.600 was such a game changer because it went from schooling became in the classroom to 228 00:15:56.279 --> 00:15:58.600 the kitchen table, when a parent would open up a laptop, click on 229 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:03.440 zoom, and their kid would attend class that way, and they saw what 230 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:07.279 these teachers were actually saying. So this isn't something happening in the Berkeley school 231 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:11.200 system or in some school system in the Bay Area or something like that. 232 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:15.879 This is happening in your school system and in my school system. And I 233 00:16:15.919 --> 00:16:19.200 do think that that woke up a lot of parents. The other thing is 234 00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:23.320 that when I was growing up, there wasn't a lot out there for homeschoolers, 235 00:16:23.320 --> 00:16:27.519 and homeschoolers were seen as kind of weird and this small group of parents. 236 00:16:27.559 --> 00:16:33.200 But now it's far more common, and there's all kinds of resources on 237 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:37.080 the internet to create curriculums for parents, and there's all kinds of support, 238 00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:41.039 and also the perception of the public school system is a lot lower than it 239 00:16:41.120 --> 00:16:45.639 was a generation ago, so it's a much much better and much more accepted 240 00:16:45.679 --> 00:16:49.000 option. The other thing is that there's a lot of misconceptions is that you 241 00:16:49.080 --> 00:16:53.559 can't be involved in sports or be involved in extracurricular activities of your homeschool. 242 00:16:53.720 --> 00:16:59.600 That's actually not true. The lead in our plays when my kids were at 243 00:16:59.600 --> 00:17:03.240 the local high school, they were a homeschooled kid, and there was a 244 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:10.119 lot of the athletes in our school sports were actually homeschooled, but because they 245 00:17:10.200 --> 00:17:15.319 lived in that particular district, it was state law that they were allowed that 246 00:17:15.359 --> 00:17:19.599 they were allowed to participate in that school system's extracurricular activities. So this notion 247 00:17:19.680 --> 00:17:22.799 that your kids are going to miss out somehow, it's just not true. 248 00:17:23.160 --> 00:17:26.640 And of course the perception that they're going to get a lesser education. Well, 249 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:32.680 when you see some of these TikTok videos, it's unimaginable that they could 250 00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:37.720 get a less lesser education from you doing it yourself. That's true. Yeah, 251 00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:40.359 and you know, I think a lot of the parents maybe even realized 252 00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:45.279 that they were homeschooling in twenty twenty, even if the kids were doing zoom 253 00:17:45.279 --> 00:17:48.359 classes and other things like that, because there's some homeschooling curriculum that is set 254 00:17:48.440 --> 00:17:52.559 up to be exactly like that your kids can For the longest time, people 255 00:17:52.559 --> 00:17:56.160 are homeschooling, and there's so many different ways that you can homeschool. But 256 00:17:56.200 --> 00:18:00.160 some of the methods were for somebody to actually do a zoom type of class 257 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:04.720 and being a live class like that, not just watching a lesson. You 258 00:18:04.759 --> 00:18:08.519 know, there's all these different ways to do it, and so you know, 259 00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:14.440 there actually were entire homeschool curriculums that were set up to do exactly what 260 00:18:14.519 --> 00:18:18.319 the government schools were doing in twenty twenty. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, 261 00:18:18.359 --> 00:18:22.160 Paul talk a little bit about, you know, some of the other methods, 262 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:25.799 and again it's just exploded. I mean, there's so many different ways 263 00:18:25.799 --> 00:18:30.519 that people can homeschool. There were a lot of different options when we were 264 00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:34.519 doing school, but it really has has exploded. What are some of the 265 00:18:34.519 --> 00:18:38.640 more popular ones that you've seen. Well, what we've seen is groups of 266 00:18:38.720 --> 00:18:45.680 parents getting together on social media and then having social events where they all come 267 00:18:45.720 --> 00:18:48.599 together so that they can interact with other kids that are also being homeschooled. 268 00:18:48.920 --> 00:18:52.359 This is not something that happened to generation ago, you know, before social 269 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:59.160 media. But because of social media, there's just this explosion and there's in 270 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:03.680 the community of homeschoolers just becomes bigger and bigger. Every year that I go 271 00:19:03.759 --> 00:19:07.240 to these conferences, there's more and more people. And in fact, one 272 00:19:07.279 --> 00:19:10.279 of the conferences here in Maine, they had to go to a different venue 273 00:19:10.319 --> 00:19:15.359 because the old venue couldn't fit all of the parents that wanted to understand the 274 00:19:15.400 --> 00:19:21.039 new trends in homeschooling techniques. So, I mean, it's just I can 275 00:19:21.079 --> 00:19:23.359 only imagine. I know, thirty years ago we would go to the North 276 00:19:23.440 --> 00:19:29.359 Carolina Homeschool Convention and it was overflowing. They couldn't contain it, you know, 277 00:19:29.400 --> 00:19:33.440 thirty years ago, and now it is. I'm sure it's way way 278 00:19:33.440 --> 00:19:38.079 bigger than that. What other options do people have if they don't want to 279 00:19:38.119 --> 00:19:41.799 try homeschooling? That you would recommend to them. Well, I mean what 280 00:19:41.839 --> 00:19:47.039 we do is we I mean we just took a very active approach to our 281 00:19:47.119 --> 00:19:51.200 child's education. And I think that the kids that are most vulnerable to WOKE 282 00:19:51.400 --> 00:19:56.440 are the ones that are not where their parents don't take all that active a 283 00:19:56.559 --> 00:20:02.640 role in their development. My wife was a long lifetime teacher and she actually 284 00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:07.119 owned a preschool and she noticed that parents that made a game out of counting 285 00:20:07.160 --> 00:20:11.559 the buttons on the kid's coat when they were about to go out for playtime, 286 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:15.599 that those were the kids that performed the best. The kids that just 287 00:20:15.640 --> 00:20:18.920 had their parents just helping them put their coat on and send them off did 288 00:20:18.960 --> 00:20:23.000 not do nearly as well. So really, parents have a lot to do 289 00:20:23.240 --> 00:20:27.559 with your kids education. So even if you're going to a public school or 290 00:20:27.599 --> 00:20:32.279 a private school, you still have a lot to do with your child's education. 291 00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:37.880 Reading to small children is so important, and making a game out of 292 00:20:37.680 --> 00:20:45.319 learning is very very important. Teaching them techniques for studying and note taking are 293 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:52.920 also important things that schools don't really teach you. And so's it's vital and 294 00:20:52.279 --> 00:20:56.839 you have a bigger role. I think than a lot of parents realized. 295 00:20:56.880 --> 00:21:00.079 They just the ones that just send them off to school. Those are the 296 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:04.279 kids that get indoctrinated, I think, to the to the largest degree. 297 00:21:04.480 --> 00:21:08.200 That's right. Yeah. I have an older sister who taught for many years, 298 00:21:08.200 --> 00:21:14.680 mainly in the seventies and stuff, and she would always say that she 299 00:21:14.720 --> 00:21:18.279 could tell the kids that were going to do well because their parents were involved, 300 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:21.240 and if the parents were not involved, the kids are just not going 301 00:21:21.279 --> 00:21:22.839 to do well. And it's because of all those other little things like you're 302 00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:26.240 talking about, you know the fact that they're going to count the buttons as 303 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:29.759 they're doing it. It's just that kind of interaction. You know, when 304 00:21:29.759 --> 00:21:32.559 you're homeschool, you're just doing a little bit more of that. But it 305 00:21:32.640 --> 00:21:36.759 really is that that involvement there. If the parents are involved, the kids 306 00:21:36.759 --> 00:21:38.599 are going to do well. And that's the way it has always been, 307 00:21:38.640 --> 00:21:44.759 even before all the animal farm stuff started coming into the schools. That's there. 308 00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:48.599 What about what was it that you saw happening with your kids? You 309 00:21:48.759 --> 00:21:52.920 you were in, what kind of we're in a small town, what kind 310 00:21:52.920 --> 00:21:56.400 of a town were you in, and what did you see happening in government 311 00:21:56.400 --> 00:22:00.440 school there? Yeah? I mean I live in US in Maine, so 312 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:04.599 you'd think that we would be insulated from a lot of this, but you 313 00:22:04.599 --> 00:22:10.400 know, we saw a lot of education when it comes to sexuality and things 314 00:22:10.440 --> 00:22:15.240 like that that were very, very offensive. And it's funny how my daughter 315 00:22:15.359 --> 00:22:18.440 and my son were about four years apart. My son just graduated from college, 316 00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:23.960 but when he was in high school, he had classmates that identified as 317 00:22:23.960 --> 00:22:29.359 an animal and they had tales and things like that, whereas my daughter, 318 00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:33.720 who was there four years earlier, didn't have that. There were some boys 319 00:22:33.759 --> 00:22:37.079 that were gay that identified as girls, but you know, when my son 320 00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:41.640 was there, it was identifying as an animal. So it's just it's you 321 00:22:41.640 --> 00:22:45.160 know, it's gotten progressively worse. And this is not the Bay Area. 322 00:22:45.240 --> 00:22:47.839 Once again, this is not midtown Manhattan. I mean, this is a 323 00:22:47.839 --> 00:22:52.079 small town in Maine. And you do it's so important that you push back 324 00:22:52.119 --> 00:22:56.160 on it because you can't just write it off and laugh it off and say, 325 00:22:56.200 --> 00:23:00.000 oh, this is so ridiculous. Who would believe this? Because when 326 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:03.880 they can get them at a young enough age, as Marx once said, 327 00:23:03.359 --> 00:23:07.799 you know, if I have them up until the age of six, you 328 00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:11.680 can have them after that, you know, because when they can get them 329 00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:15.480 young enough, they can really mold these minds, and there's nothing that's too 330 00:23:15.640 --> 00:23:21.599 ridiculous for these kids to internalize. So you've really got to point out the 331 00:23:21.720 --> 00:23:26.240 utter ridiculousness of some of this stuff that these kids are being taught, and 332 00:23:26.240 --> 00:23:30.759 not just rely on them to discern this stuff themselves. It's very calculating and 333 00:23:30.759 --> 00:23:33.319 people have always known that truth. And you point out Marx said it. 334 00:23:33.359 --> 00:23:37.839 We've had so many people say that throughout history. We had Plato said it, 335 00:23:40.119 --> 00:23:41.079 the Bible says it, you know, train up a child the way 336 00:23:41.119 --> 00:23:44.680 they should go when they're old, or not depart from it. So this 337 00:23:44.799 --> 00:23:47.599 is what they're exploiting, and they know exactly what they're doing. You talk 338 00:23:47.640 --> 00:23:53.960 about how rapidly this is changing and growing like a cancer, the furry stuff, 339 00:23:55.000 --> 00:23:57.119 and we've talked about that on this show in the past. But people 340 00:23:57.279 --> 00:24:00.359 look at it and they say, wow, this is really alice one only 341 00:24:00.400 --> 00:24:03.559 I know it's animal farm, and it really is. It is that Marxism 342 00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:07.599 that is at the center of it. It is this desire that we've always 343 00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:15.960 seen from totalitarian politicians and others to control society completely grab these kids at a 344 00:24:17.079 --> 00:24:18.799 very very young age. We used to have an expression the hand that rocks 345 00:24:18.839 --> 00:24:22.160 the cradle rules the world. You know, if they take the kids away 346 00:24:22.200 --> 00:24:26.079 from the parents and they're working at it to try to well, we'll expedite 347 00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:30.279 things for you. You know, we'll give you free childcare. Of course, 348 00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:32.799 you'll pay for it in taxes and other things like that eventually as you 349 00:24:32.839 --> 00:24:33.839 go to work. But you know, we'll give you all these different They 350 00:24:33.880 --> 00:24:38.160 just let us raise your kids, and it truly is amazing. So, 351 00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:41.119 you know, talk a little bit about school choice as well. You said 352 00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:47.759 that's exploding where you are. Yeah, school choice is exploding as well because 353 00:24:47.799 --> 00:24:52.119 it's really allowing the market to take over because you know, there's no real 354 00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:56.599 incentive for some of these schools to get their act together. But with school 355 00:24:56.680 --> 00:25:02.559 choice, when parents can take their children their dollars with them and go elsewhere, 356 00:25:02.839 --> 00:25:06.400 that's very, very important. So we have about ten states in the 357 00:25:06.480 --> 00:25:11.160 last six months that have changed their school choice legislation, and so it's a 358 00:25:11.240 --> 00:25:18.119 lot easier and a lot more damaging to underperforming schools that these school choice initiatives 359 00:25:18.839 --> 00:25:22.799 are happening. So I think it's great. It really gives me a lot 360 00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:27.680 of hope because I feel like the tide is starting to turn. That's turning 361 00:25:27.680 --> 00:25:32.039 the tide in K through twelve. I think the whole Claudine Gay thing with 362 00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:37.960 Harvard University and that whole scandal that's starting to turn the tide in higher education. 363 00:25:38.480 --> 00:25:44.759 I see a sea change where there's pushing back on this madness, and 364 00:25:44.839 --> 00:25:48.319 I really feel as though it's important because, like you were saying, it's 365 00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:52.960 not just Marxism. What I've seen in my research is that one of the 366 00:25:53.000 --> 00:25:56.440 biggest lies that we're told is that Marxism is way over here to the left 367 00:25:56.559 --> 00:26:00.880 and Nazism is way over here to the right. But then when I started 368 00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:06.400 researching, I found that Michel fu Co, a Marxist who's a postmodernist, 369 00:26:06.440 --> 00:26:11.599 in Martin Heidegger, who was a Nazi. They exchanged a lot of information, 370 00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:15.039 and a lot of what Michell Fuko came up with when it comes to 371 00:26:15.079 --> 00:26:21.759 deconstruction actually came originally from Martin Heideger. And Martin Heidegger was appointed the president 372 00:26:21.799 --> 00:26:26.839 of Freiberg University by Adolf Hitler himself, and he was afraid that he was 373 00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:30.559 going to get tried in the Nuremberg trials and executed, so he was able 374 00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:33.720 to do a lot of things after World War Two to try to get out 375 00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:37.640 of being prosecuted, and he never was. He died of old age in 376 00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:41.960 nineteen seventy six. But still it's disturbing how much overlap there is with Marxism 377 00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:48.279 and Nazism, and in this ideological and philosophical overlap is what we call woke. 378 00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:53.160 It's amazing how many trans people that say, oh, I can be 379 00:26:53.240 --> 00:26:57.240 my authentic self when I go to work. How much of that it comes 380 00:26:57.279 --> 00:27:04.200 from Heideger's philosophical research. So it's just it's really, like I said, 381 00:27:04.400 --> 00:27:08.160 the more you peel back the layers of the onion, the more you're disturbed 382 00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:12.079 by not just woke, but the origins of woke. That's right. Yeah, 383 00:27:12.079 --> 00:27:17.079 I've said for the longest time that if you look at what life was 384 00:27:17.240 --> 00:27:22.359 like under Stalin versus Hitler, it's life under in a toatalitarian society. And 385 00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:26.839 the thing that really differs about it is the direction of the lies that they 386 00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:30.960 told people to get them into a tautalitarian society. It can be about hypernationalism, 387 00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:34.799 or it can be about internationalism. You know, the Communists will talk 388 00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:41.000 about the international and the Nazis would talk about nationalism, but they would use 389 00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:45.920 different approaches to get you in there. And I guess maybe Heidegger or maybe 390 00:27:45.960 --> 00:27:49.480 Hegel took a page out of all this stuffnues the Hegelian dialectic, you know, 391 00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:52.640 because they can pit these two different things against Oh look, you know 392 00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:56.799 Nazis are completely different from the communists. Is like, well, no, 393 00:27:56.920 --> 00:28:03.240 they have strongly held priorities about things, but they use those priorities to get 394 00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:07.319 them enslaved into a totalitarian society. Because you pointed out at the beginning, 395 00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:11.920 this is really about postmodernism. This is about removing the idea that there is 396 00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:17.000 some objective fact or some objective truth, and that is now rampant, isn't 397 00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:19.559 it right? And the other thing is they even use some of the same 398 00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:22.759 techniques. Like you were talking about dividing the child from the parent. That 399 00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:26.279 that's something that the woke do. That's also something that the Hitler youth did. 400 00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:32.200 That's also something that the Red Guard and the Cosimov which is the equivalent 401 00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:37.480 of the Hitler youth up in Soviet Russia. So all of these were trying 402 00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:42.240 to separate the child from the parent because they understood that you needed to destroy 403 00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:48.119 the family because the family unit is the foundation of society. So if you 404 00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:51.720 want to tear down communities and then tear down to society, you have to 405 00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:53.400 start with the family. So part of it is, you know, in 406 00:28:53.440 --> 00:28:59.599 popular culture, making fun of father figures and things like that, also parents, 407 00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:03.799 you know, kids telling on their on their parents, and also even 408 00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:08.200 little things like during the Great Leap Forward, they had these they had these 409 00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:14.359 community dining areas where instead of the family meal, you would dine with everyone 410 00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:19.519 in your village as a way to stop people from from having family time together, 411 00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:26.880 because they understood the power of families eating together, of families doing activities 412 00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:32.839 together, and how this really reinforces society. So when you're deconstructing like FUCO 413 00:29:32.960 --> 00:29:36.160 does, when you're trying to tear all this down, you really need to 414 00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:40.839 start with the family. Yes, yes, it is a fundamental building block 415 00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:45.880 of society is and it's the first institution that God gave us was the family. 416 00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:49.480 And so they've got to tear that apart. Once they split that nuclear 417 00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:53.240 family, we started to get a chain reaction, don't we. Yeah. 418 00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:56.960 And I you know, when I look at even some of the language that 419 00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:00.480 we use, just like we're talking about red, you know, and the 420 00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:03.279 fact that they're going to apply that to people call themselves woke. Even the 421 00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:08.279 term postmodernism, it really doesn't convey the true meaning of it. I like 422 00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:14.480 to refer to it almost as post objectivism, because that's really what postmodernism is. 423 00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:18.119 You know, people don't understand what modernism was. They don't understand the 424 00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:22.799 idea that you had the German higher critics that were looking at at the Bible 425 00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:29.240 with critical theory. You know, they still use that term and so they 426 00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:33.480 would deconstruct the Bible with critical So they call that modernism. We're going to 427 00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:36.680 debate it. And then it went to postmodernism, which says, well, 428 00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:38.279 we're not even going to have a debate. We're just going to say I've 429 00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:41.599 got my truth, you've got your truth, and there is no such thing 430 00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:44.000 as truth. That was their fundamental truth, that there is no such thing 431 00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:48.880 as truth. And so we get into that absurdity that is there with postmodernism. 432 00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:53.319 And you know all these things that they clouded with the terminology that they 433 00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:56.960 use, don't they right. Yeah, And there's so many people that woke 434 00:30:57.039 --> 00:31:00.799 people that say, well, you know, this is my truth or we 435 00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:06.920 need to speak our truth. And there's so many postmodernist thinkers that view that 436 00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:11.079 as an important aspect of all this, because then it becomes unassailable if someone's 437 00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:15.200 talking as a woman, or if somebody's talking as a person of color, 438 00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:21.319 you cannot debate that, you cannot question that. So really, one of 439 00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:26.400 the foundations of Western civilization is our ability to debate and our ability to question 440 00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:30.440 everything. This is why we're so far advanced scientifically. This is why we 441 00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:37.599 have the freest societies because we question everything, We ask why not constantly? 442 00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:42.359 And woke is a reversal of that. It's wanting to stop that, reverse 443 00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:47.720 it and say, don't ask any questions. You cannot debate, you have 444 00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:52.599 no right to because I'm speaking my truth. Yes, Yes, that's the 445 00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:56.119 brilliance I think of Orwell's two plus two equals five. He knew they were 446 00:31:56.119 --> 00:32:01.759 going to get at the essence of acts and truth and what is more objective 447 00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:07.000 than to have a mathematical equation. But now we see that they're coming out 448 00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:10.240 and saying, well, math is racist and everything else, because that's ultimately 449 00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:14.599 where this goes. Or Well knew it, souljiy Knitsen knew it. Anybody 450 00:32:14.599 --> 00:32:20.559 looks at totalitarian societies know that they have to destroy objective reality, they have 451 00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:22.960 to destroy debate, they have to destroy the family, and unfortunately we see 452 00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:27.519 all this stuff happening in our society. That's why you book like yours that 453 00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:32.599 can explain this to kids is so vital and so important for people to be 454 00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:36.519 able to see that and to go over that with a kid in a graphic 455 00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:42.519 novel format, which is going to you know, get that truth across to 456 00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:45.559 them at a very visceral way. I think that's a genius move on your 457 00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:50.079 part. Yeah, well, well, thank you. Yeah, And it's 458 00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:54.240 just so important that I guess one of the one of the negative things that 459 00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:59.480 I see is just that this was foreseen by Orwell and by others thinkers. 460 00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:05.039 This was so avoidable, we didn't have to go down this road, and 461 00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:09.359 you know, because Orwell called it. He saw that. I had kind 462 00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:14.119 of an Orwellian moment when I was looking on a website of a college that 463 00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:16.640 had a list of words that you could no longer use, and then I 464 00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:22.079 thought back to near the end of nineteen eighty four where the guy is talking 465 00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:25.880 with Winston and saying, well, we don't need all these words, you 466 00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:31.519 know, these just these few words are plenty, and literally reducing the number 467 00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:36.480 of words. It's like if it gave warwell nightmares. It's it's kind of 468 00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:39.960 a wet dream for the wok. Yah. Yeah, yeah, it is. 469 00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:45.079 It is amazing that we sell this stuff happening, and of course it 470 00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:51.200 is made possible for them by dumbing kids down. And they've been doing this 471 00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:54.039 now for several generations, dumbing down the people so they don't know history, 472 00:33:54.640 --> 00:34:00.319 they don't have any discernment about what the overall of this is. They don't 473 00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:05.759 see has been done over and over again in other countries. That is an 474 00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:10.320 essential part of their success, and that's why an essential part of pushing back 475 00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:14.800 against this is to explain this to kids in a way they can understand it 476 00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:17.639 in a format they're going to be open to. And that's really what your 477 00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:22.320 book does, I think. Yeah, And it's so important to understand your 478 00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:25.840 own history because it was Stalin who said we are the first page of history. 479 00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:30.880 He didn't want people to know that anyone came before us, or that 480 00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:32.679 okay, people came before us, but that doesn't really matter. What they 481 00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:36.960 said or what they wrote or what they believe, doesn't matter. What all 482 00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:40.079 that matters is going forward. And when you do that in a society or 483 00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:45.840 in a community, you now make everyone so much easier to control. That's 484 00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:50.880 the other disturbing thing about Woe is that everything about it, it doesn't reduce 485 00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:55.320 racism, It doesn't make things more fair. It just makes the most people 486 00:34:55.719 --> 00:35:00.280 more pliable. It makes them more able to be controlled by a small number 487 00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:04.920 of elites. That's really all it does, and it does it very efficiently, 488 00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:07.800 but it does it using a lot of the same techniques that the Soviets 489 00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:14.599 and the Nazis used to suppress their populations as well. That's right. You 490 00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:19.039 target people, you isolate people, you make them, make everybody feel like 491 00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:22.679 they're alone and vulnerable. Yes, that's the key thing, you know. 492 00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:27.480 And so when I look at you know, when I look at the after 493 00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:34.119 system and the these charter schools and stuff like that, my only concern about 494 00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:37.079 it. I think it's good. I think we should have a marketplace and 495 00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:40.159 ideas. But I think the only way that we're going to retain our ability 496 00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:45.920 to be able to make those choices in a marketplace is if that money is 497 00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:50.000 truly ours. And that's the thing that concerns me about it. You know, 498 00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:52.920 when you got when you're taking the money from the government, that's a 499 00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:57.320 screen that they're going to use to control you in the same way that they 500 00:35:57.360 --> 00:36:00.400 did it to the states or to the counties. They say, up the 501 00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:04.719 Department of Education, it's got this massive amount of unlimited money. Because it's 502 00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:07.480 coming from the federal government, they can just print whatever they want, and 503 00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:10.159 then they use that money to bribe people. And then if you don't do 504 00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:13.800 what they want, like you don't put the boys in the girls' bathrooms, 505 00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:16.760 they pull that money away from you after they get you addicted to it. 506 00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:20.320 And so when it all starts, it's a good thing. You know, 507 00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:22.239 hey, we've got a market here. I've got a certain amount of money 508 00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:25.119 that I can use to make my determination about how I want to educate my 509 00:36:25.199 --> 00:36:29.639 kids. But if you start making choices that they don't like, a few 510 00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:34.199 years down the road after you get connected to this, they're going to pull 511 00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:39.559 that string and you're and and most people will then go with what they're comfortable 512 00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:44.480 with. They don't they've forgotten how they can do this on their own. 513 00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:47.320 And so that's the concern I have about that. Yeah, and you know 514 00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:51.440 so many people that say, oh, you can't get rid of the Department 515 00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:54.159 of Education. You know, I just want to say to them, did 516 00:36:54.199 --> 00:36:59.519 you know that the Department of Education did not exist before the early nineteen sixties. 517 00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:02.039 It's like, how do you think we educated kids before that? From 518 00:37:02.039 --> 00:37:05.679 the founding of our country all the way up until the nineteen fifties, And 519 00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:09.559 a lot of people would say our education system was better back then than it 520 00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:14.760 is today. In many ways it was. You were able to get by 521 00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:20.239 with a high school degree. You knew a lot more about history, you 522 00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:23.760 knew a lot more about mathematics when you graduated from high school than you do 523 00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:30.039 today. And I even saw that in comparing my high school education with my 524 00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:34.239 mother's. I went to college, but my mother never did. But she 525 00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:37.280 felt as though she knew a lot more coming out of high school than her 526 00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:43.480 children learned. And so, yeah, it's time for this to go. 527 00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:50.000 It's a big, wasteful bureaucracy in Washington that really controls things in a way 528 00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:52.800 that most people are not on board with. And I think if it got 529 00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:59.880 eliminated, I really think that you would see a drastic improvement of education. 530 00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:05.000 The world would not end, you know, education would not suddenly cease to 531 00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:07.880 exist. If we got rid of these. And the other thing that drives 532 00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:10.639 me crazy is people that think that these teachers' unions have something to do with 533 00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:16.039 education. You know, the UAW, the United Autoworkers, they have nothing 534 00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:20.280 to do with the quality of cars, right, They're just getting the best 535 00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:22.840 deal for their workers. And these teachers' unions they have nothing to do with 536 00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:27.840 education. They have everything to do with getting the best deal for their members, 537 00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:30.519 and there's no shame in that. But you just have to realize that's 538 00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:36.000 not part of their agenda to educate your kids. It has nothing to do 539 00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:38.920 with that. And especially during the pandemic when they were wanting to keep kids 540 00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:43.440 out of school and then wanting even the smallest kids to wear a mask that 541 00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:46.239 had nothing to do with education, and it had nothing to do with science 542 00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:50.679 were learning. You know, German kids didn't. You know, small kids 543 00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:54.559 didn't wear masks at all during the pandemic because we knew that they were not 544 00:38:54.639 --> 00:39:00.000 affected in the same way that the rest of us were affected by COVID. 545 00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:05.920 So it's just they, really the Department of Education in these teachers unions, 546 00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:10.199 they ruin education, they don't improve it. And to get rid of these 547 00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:14.559 things would not harm education at all. In fact, it would improve the 548 00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:17.199 situation. Well, you could even say that about schools, right. You 549 00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:23.239 know, those two school and education so intertwined in people's minds, and they're 550 00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:27.159 two separate things. You don't need to have a school in order to have 551 00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:30.519 an education. Sometimes frequently the school gets in the way of their education. 552 00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:36.159 Certainly did with me. And you go back and you look at colonial times, 553 00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:42.039 we had almost one hundred percent literacy. They were able to change society 554 00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:47.079 by you know, sending a book around Thomas Paine's common sense because everybody read. 555 00:39:47.559 --> 00:39:52.199 And you know, they didn't have government schools. In some places, 556 00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:55.239 they had community schools or church run schools, but it was under tight local 557 00:39:55.280 --> 00:40:00.159 control of the community and of the parents. It was not some agenda that 558 00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:05.199 was being created in Washington. And so we've had for the longest time politicians 559 00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:07.880 promising to get rid of the Department of Education has just created. In nineteen 560 00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:10.159 eighty during the election that was happening there, Reagan said he was going to 561 00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:13.360 get rid of it, but he never did. And so you know, 562 00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:16.760 we see how that has been used with the strings that are there. And 563 00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:21.559 I think it's important for parents to understand. Just like it's important for kids 564 00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:27.400 understand what they're trying to do in the schools in terms of manipulating them and 565 00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:30.400 this postmodernism and all the rest of this stuff. I think it's important also 566 00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:35.960 for the parents to understand the techniques that government uses to control people. And 567 00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:39.280 it really does kind of boil down to the Fiat currency. They can pay 568 00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:44.800 anybody any amount of money and get you addicted to this stuff and use that 569 00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:47.280 as a trojan horse to control you and everything that you do. It truly 570 00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:52.440 is amazing, isn't it. Yeah, it is, And I do think 571 00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:57.119 that we need to get back to basics with our education system. And you 572 00:40:57.159 --> 00:41:00.079 know, these postmodernists and these woke people that say that parents should have no 573 00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:06.000 say in the education because they're not education professionals, and well, just leave 574 00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:08.280 it to the educators. Look, we're in this problem because we left it 575 00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:14.559 to the educators largely. And you know, parents, very active parents, 576 00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:16.159 are the ones that are going to pull us out of this mess. I'm 577 00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:20.039 glad you went back and looked at these philosophers anything, And of course we 578 00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:23.239 could see it in Horseman and Thomas Dewey and people like that, and even 579 00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:27.000 before them. In the mid eighteen hundreds in America, we had a lot 580 00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:34.000 of these utopian societies where they would basically communist in their organization, and they 581 00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:36.679 wanted to change society, and they said, you know, the reason that 582 00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:43.960 our utopian society failed was because the parents instilling these ancient values in their kids. 583 00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:46.280 So we got to break that. And that has been something that has 584 00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:52.599 been a subcurrent to all of this so called reform of education in America since 585 00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:54.559 the middle of the eighteen hundreds. And people, if you're aware of this 586 00:41:54.719 --> 00:41:58.840 history, and you cover a lot of this stuff, if you're ware the 587 00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:01.880 philosophical history, the political history of this stuff, then you really see where 588 00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:06.000 this is headed. And you know, it's very important for people really understand 589 00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:09.920 the history of Marxism. They keep that from being taught in the schools very 590 00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:15.079 carefully because they don't want everybody to see how that is exactly the plan that 591 00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:17.519 they're rolling out on us. And it is very concerning to see it. 592 00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:21.800 But it's great to see some resources out there. Again. The book is 593 00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:28.079 a critical feather Theory the Red Offenders, and you can find that on Amazon 594 00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:30.400 is not the best place to get it. There you can see the graphic 595 00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:35.880 novel aspect of it. Okay, Amazon, or just Google critical feather theory. 596 00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:37.400 So okay, all right, great, thank you so much for joining 597 00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:52.639 us again, Jared Julia, thank you for joining us. The David Knight 598 00:42:52.800 --> 00:43:01.079 Show is a critical thinking super spreader. If you've been exposed to by listening 599 00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:08.440 to The David Night Show, please do your part and try not to spread 600 00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:15.679 it. Financial support, or simply tell the others about the show causes this 601 00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:22.760 dangerous information to spread. Father. People have to trust me, I mean, 602 00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:31.440 trust the science. Wear you mask, take your vaccine, don't ask 603 00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:45.679 questions using free speech to free minds. It's the David Night Show.