1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:07,280 So we can actually live simple and God centered lives even today. It's hard, 2 00:00:07,759 --> 00:00:11,199 and yet shouldn't it be easy. Marlon Miller is joining me. He 3 00:00:11,279 --> 00:00:16,000 is a publisher of Plain Values Magazine and Fascinating Backgrounds. I grew up Amish. 4 00:00:16,039 --> 00:00:18,399 We'll talk a bit about that. Won't drove down too far on it, 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,280 but there are some things I didn't know about the Amish people. So 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,399 we'll get started with the help of renewed dot Healthcare. That's where I went 7 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,440 to go get myself right. It's renewed dot Healthcare, just telling me you 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,280 are part of the podcast family. And of course we can't do anything of 9 00:00:31,359 --> 00:00:36,719 value without God, Almighty, Thank you Lord. The Todd Herman Show is 10 00:00:36,759 --> 00:00:45,320 one hundred percent disapproved by big pharma technocrats and tyrants everywhere. No from the 11 00:00:45,439 --> 00:01:00,679 high mountains of Free America. Here's the Emerald City Exile Todd Herman. Today 12 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,599 is today the Lord has made, and these are the time so which God 13 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,400 has decided we shall live. Marlon Miller joins me, claiming Values Magazine. 14 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,959 Good to have you here, brother, Thank you, thank you for having 15 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,359 me Todd. This is great. Yeah, it's a fascinating thing to talk 16 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,560 to you about. Simple life and living, but it wasn't simple. And 17 00:01:17,599 --> 00:01:21,000 how you got started and we'll get to this and the adoption story and how 18 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,280 God's blessed you there, But you grew up the way I thought I wanted 19 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,480 to grow up, Like when I started to look at this, actually not 20 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,000 when I was a teen. Was a teen, no, but as an 21 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,719 adult I look back, going, man, maybe we should move and live 22 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,079 with the Amish. And and I mean there's a fascination with that. I've 23 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,200 been in Pennsylvania and seeing the horse courts or horse carts, say, oh 24 00:01:41,239 --> 00:01:44,760 gosh, I want this. Yeah, And first of all, what was 25 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,719 that like for you growing up that way? Well, so I was born 26 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:52,359 Amish. You know mom and pop or married Amish. You know, there's 27 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,359 dad was one of fourteen kids, Mom was one of six. I've got 28 00:01:56,359 --> 00:01:57,959 one hundred I don't know, one hundred and ten first cousins or something, 29 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:00,599 and which is cool. I mean, it's a great you know, it's 30 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:05,640 a great, huge family. But mom and dad got saved when I was 31 00:02:05,879 --> 00:02:07,560 just a just a baby, I mean a couple of years old, and 32 00:02:07,599 --> 00:02:12,400 then they left the Amish church when I was about five, So you know, 33 00:02:12,439 --> 00:02:15,560 we went through the Mennonite, you know, stage the church and then 34 00:02:15,599 --> 00:02:20,879 have moved on into you know, just just more of a typical, you 35 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,080 know, productant style. So I look at this stuff and I suck at 36 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:29,479 the you know, small one room classrooms. I see people playing together, 37 00:02:29,599 --> 00:02:32,319 even to some degree, dressing alike. And I look at that and say, 38 00:02:34,599 --> 00:02:38,000 I would have a tendency to idealize something I had now my age now 39 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:39,680 and the one hundred and ten cousins, man, I don't have that. 40 00:02:39,719 --> 00:02:43,360 We just had our first memory, you know, I'm ashamed to say, 41 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,039 in like thirty years. Yeah, and it was great to have that. 42 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,080 But you used to have the family connections. Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, 43 00:02:49,159 --> 00:02:53,960 yeah, absolutely, there is that. There are so many fantastic parts 44 00:02:54,199 --> 00:03:00,879 of the the plane lifestyle, you know, the horse and buggy, the 45 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:04,879 you know, down to the clothes. They are all designed and they're very 46 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:10,039 thoughtfully thought through. Sorry to be redundant there, but it's all about keeping 47 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:15,120 the family and the church all tight together. Because if you have a car 48 00:03:15,439 --> 00:03:17,159 like you and I do, we can drive one hundred and fifty to you 49 00:03:17,159 --> 00:03:21,360 know, five hundred miles in a day. When you don't, when you 50 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,520 have a horse and buggy, you're going to stay closer together. Now. 51 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:29,599 Fifty years ago they were all farmers. That's all changed today. I mean 52 00:03:29,599 --> 00:03:31,680 that's you know, there's only five or ten percent of the Amish communities that 53 00:03:31,719 --> 00:03:35,960 are actually still farming today. Yeah, so yeah, yeah, you know, 54 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,120 it's funny. I had My grandpa used to call cars the magic sin 55 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:46,240 machines, right, because you could go so far from home so quickly. 56 00:03:46,599 --> 00:03:52,280 Yeah, and there is that. I guess the devil tempesys is we're far 57 00:03:52,319 --> 00:03:55,000 from home. And I could see that, particularly as a kid. I 58 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:59,199 mean as an adult, if you can't withstand the temptation of a car ride, 59 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,159 you probably you know, not walking with the Lord at all. I 60 00:04:01,199 --> 00:04:03,680 do want to ask you a question about being saved, and we'll talk about 61 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,960 that and then get to plain values in this life that you're living. And 62 00:04:08,039 --> 00:04:11,319 as I'm doing this and recording with Marton, obviously we're in our studio, 63 00:04:11,439 --> 00:04:15,319 we have to keep the doors and windows shut, so it's not always fun 64 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,079 to be locked into studio for five hours a day, particularly when I'm exhaling 65 00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:20,480 stuff. And I got to tell you something about naon it. From time 66 00:04:20,519 --> 00:04:24,560 to time, she will light these candles over there, and they are so 67 00:04:24,759 --> 00:04:29,240 annoying. I mean they're Christian candles and coming into like right now, she's 68 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:33,279 eating a fish burger. It's just sticking the place up. And so we 69 00:04:33,399 --> 00:04:39,720 use the Edenpure device eatingpre deals dot com the oxy leaf to thunderstorm and it 70 00:04:39,759 --> 00:04:43,879 smells like there was a thunderstorm in here. 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And by the way, if you're a pet owner, 80 00:05:21,879 --> 00:05:28,319 they give you a pet stench guarantee. If it doesn't do away with 81 00:05:28,399 --> 00:05:31,279 these stink from your wet dog or your cat litter boxes. Get your money 82 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:36,560 back. It's eatingperideals dot com. Use code todd three. You said something 83 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:41,360 that I guess a few years ago would have surprised me, as you said 84 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,800 a group Amish two three years old, My folks got saved. And my 85 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:51,399 wife and I watched a documentary lovingly done by some people who had left the 86 00:05:51,439 --> 00:06:00,480 Amish church in their I think mid twenties, so lovingly done, and it 87 00:06:00,759 --> 00:06:05,199 described the need to be saved. And I was surprised by that because man, 88 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,360 I look at the Amish people and in some ways as a model. 89 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:15,079 Yeah, I think I think a lot of folks have this this misconception that 90 00:06:16,199 --> 00:06:24,079 to grow up and live the Amish lifestyle equates to automatically being right with the 91 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:28,879 Lord. And they are as sinful as everybody else, obviously. And and 92 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:33,160 mom and dad pop got saved actually reading the Bible on the couch. The 93 00:06:33,199 --> 00:06:38,639 Holy Spirit basically said, you know, look, you're not gonna earn your 94 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:43,680 way to heaven. And I think at the core that's where the Amish tend 95 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:48,279 to struggle a little bit. Uh. They they are, they're on the 96 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:55,160 legalistic end of things. And and and my heart for the magazine are. 97 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,480 Our desire initially, along with a few other pillars, was to share the 98 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,959 Gospel of grace with the Amish, uh, you know, all around the 99 00:07:02,959 --> 00:07:08,879 country. Yeah, that that's a temptation of earning your way to salvation. 100 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,920 I mean I don't I don't know that it's unique to the Amish. You 101 00:07:11,959 --> 00:07:17,120 think there's other forms of the faith that give into that. Have you completed 102 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,199 a part of that as a man? Do you ever find yourself drawn into 103 00:07:19,199 --> 00:07:23,319 the temptation of I need to earn Oh? Oh yeah, I mean for 104 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,600 real? Oh yeah, that's I mean, that's still born. And I 105 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,040 mean, you know, I was born and bred into that. So it's 106 00:07:29,079 --> 00:07:32,360 easy for me to think in terms of of having to to be you know 107 00:07:32,519 --> 00:07:35,800 good. Yeah, but that's where I come back to the cross and grace 108 00:07:35,839 --> 00:07:39,040 and and and it's not me. I mean, it has nothing to do 109 00:07:39,079 --> 00:07:42,319 with me. So yeah, have when you got to this point, you 110 00:07:42,399 --> 00:07:46,279 publisher of this magazine, and the magazine's done well, Praise God. Do 111 00:07:46,319 --> 00:07:50,519 you ever sit back and go wow, I didn't anticipate any of this, 112 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,480 because sometimes you live. There's been times in my life where I go, 113 00:07:54,600 --> 00:08:00,199 wait, I get this. We we are so there all the time. 114 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:05,439 I mean, there's there's multiples of stories that I could talk about. I 115 00:08:05,439 --> 00:08:09,759 mean it really comes out of Lisa and I adopting our four children, which 116 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,199 that I mean, that's a whole other story, but yeah, I mean 117 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:18,800 for sure, sure, Yeah, So we adopted our first one in twenty 118 00:08:18,279 --> 00:08:22,480 twelve, I think, sorry, that was the second one two thousand and 119 00:08:22,519 --> 00:08:28,519 eight, and Bryson came to us after having a few other families and so 120 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,840 it it's been it's been a bumpy road for him, but yeah, he's 121 00:08:31,879 --> 00:08:35,440 doing great today. Lives in a group home. He's twenty point seven and 122 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,559 he's doing twenty point seven. So that's a bit of an autistic joke. 123 00:08:41,159 --> 00:08:43,759 He's on the spectrum. And every time that I would say, hey, 124 00:08:43,759 --> 00:08:46,519 Bryson, you know how old are you? You know that sort of thing, 125 00:08:46,519 --> 00:08:48,720 when folks would ask him, he he never just says twenty one or 126 00:08:48,799 --> 00:08:52,320 you know, fifteen. It's always thirteen point eight or you know, thirteen 127 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,039 point two. What I love it, Yeah, I love that so much. 128 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,799 Yeah, the twenty point seven is a bit of an inside joke. 129 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:03,399 Sure. And then our two middle children both have Down syndrome. Our daughter 130 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:09,159 is fourteen and talks all the time and sings all the time. And then 131 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:16,120 our second son is nonverbal. He's eleven, and boy, he gets his 132 00:09:16,639 --> 00:09:20,360 he gets his point across. He can sign and he's just a fantastic blessing 133 00:09:20,639 --> 00:09:26,600 of partner of the show, Alan soaps and I really need to get a 134 00:09:26,639 --> 00:09:33,559 discussion between you and Joe and Calbell together. John was amazingly successful in digital 135 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,159 marketing and created some of the most famous digital marketing campaigns you'll have ever heard 136 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:41,039 of. I met him in politics and he emailed me and said, hey, 137 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,360 your emails that you guys are putting out with the R and C are 138 00:09:45,919 --> 00:09:48,480 far far better. They're even good. I can make him great, and 139 00:09:48,519 --> 00:09:50,759 he volunteered a sign of that. We got to know each other that way. 140 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:58,279 His first son was born neurotypical, and second two kids have autism. 141 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:03,039 Alan was a lot of structural health challenges. He's been through like eighteen surgeries, 142 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:09,080 nonverbal. Wow, and he chose to employ his kids. He left 143 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:13,639 the world of digital marketing largely he wanted to build a place where his kids 144 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:18,279 could work and be honored and that so he'll get that autism joke and he'll 145 00:10:18,279 --> 00:10:24,639 get that really solid Did you choose to bring on kids who had these challenges. 146 00:10:26,399 --> 00:10:31,240 We basically held our family to come with a very open hand. Our 147 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:37,519 our our prayer was that that He brings us, you know, the kids 148 00:10:37,519 --> 00:10:39,799 that he wants us to have, and then basically equips us to meet their 149 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:46,679 needs. Uh So, so, my my dad had a youngest sister that 150 00:10:46,759 --> 00:10:52,840 had Down syndrome, and so I grew up watching Pop across the any room 151 00:10:54,279 --> 00:10:56,039 with a five dollar bill in his pocket and a hug, you know, 152 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:01,879 waiting to happen to meet any family with a kid with Down syndrome, often 153 00:11:01,919 --> 00:11:07,039 with any special need. Pop just had an amazing heart for that. So 154 00:11:07,159 --> 00:11:11,720 I I think I kind of, you know, got that from him obviously, 155 00:11:11,399 --> 00:11:13,320 because I tend to do the same thing. The older I get, 156 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,519 the more you know, I just want to meet those other families and just 157 00:11:16,639 --> 00:11:20,720 encourage them and just meet the kids and all that. My wife, on 158 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,200 the other hand, did not, and I don't know, I think the 159 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,279 Lord put it in her, you know, directly, because she is just 160 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:31,480 an amazing gal. And yeah, it's it's fantastic. So when you say 161 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,279 that you wanted the Lord to put these kids in your path, I mean, 162 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,519 how'd that manifest? Did you? When you sought to adopt. But 163 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,480 how that, how did he manifest that for you? Yeah, well so 164 00:11:41,039 --> 00:11:48,879 we when we began our adoption journey, Todd, there were not Now even 165 00:11:48,919 --> 00:11:52,360 today, there are not many families that are willing to open their hand to 166 00:11:52,519 --> 00:11:56,759 kids that have special needs. When you have anything at all, everybody wants 167 00:11:56,759 --> 00:11:58,960 that perfect little baby, right, everybody wants that perfect little baby right out 168 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:03,879 of hospital. And there are hundreds and thousands of families that are just chomping 169 00:12:03,919 --> 00:12:07,399 at the bit to do that. As soon as you put any special need, 170 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:13,559 that deep pool of families dries up in a heartbeat. We we were 171 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:22,000 we were on on the on the table for multiple families in I mean that 172 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,919 there were about twenty five or twenty seven different children that were presented to us 173 00:12:26,159 --> 00:12:31,240 that we said yes to inside the course of a year. And we basically 174 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:35,679 said, okay, lord, we're gonna say yes. It's your call whether 175 00:12:35,799 --> 00:12:39,360 or not you're gonna match us up with, you know, with those children. 176 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:43,600 So yeah, I mean, it's it's a it's a it's an up 177 00:12:43,639 --> 00:12:46,960 and down journey. Yeah, but you know, bumpy at times, but 178 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:52,000 He's he's brought us through and knocked our socks off, and you sustain this 179 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:56,039 family. Uh, and you care for this family given the magazine. Well 180 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,840 that's so when our daughter was born, she almost passed away a couple of 181 00:13:00,879 --> 00:13:05,240 times in the NICU. She she had a bunch of complications, and I 182 00:13:05,279 --> 00:13:11,279 saw very very quickly that this is going to be expensive. And so my 183 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,399 prayer began to be, Okay, you know, help me, help me 184 00:13:13,519 --> 00:13:18,200 understand, and help me see how you want me to to actually be able 185 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:22,840 to financially, you know, take care of our family. And so I 186 00:13:22,879 --> 00:13:26,759 was a salesman for a local newspaper and a client of mine said something, 187 00:13:26,799 --> 00:13:30,159 and I went, wait, well that's a that's a good idea. And 188 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:35,240 so we you know, I mean, I quit my job and I started 189 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,159 a magazine in print, and Praise the Lord will still here today. And 190 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,679 today we reach i don't know, forty fifty thousand Amish homes across the country 191 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,879 every month, you know, talking about the dignity of kids with special needs, 192 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,840 the beauty of adoption, there is no better way. There's no better 193 00:13:50,879 --> 00:13:58,080 manifestation of his adoption of us vertically than an adoption horizontally of another child. 194 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:03,159 There just is not. That's that's why I think he made the universe is 195 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:07,399 to put that on display, and you sustain your family, reaching the Amish 196 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:11,440 people fifty thousand arsen or more of them. And I mean, this isn't 197 00:14:11,639 --> 00:14:16,840 I've read the publication. It's it's not just for the Amish. No. 198 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:20,720 I mean, so my wife and I pine for sometimes and then we realize 199 00:14:20,759 --> 00:14:24,759 that I can't build a thing. You could come to me and say, 200 00:14:24,759 --> 00:14:28,720 hey, build a stick. I could break it, screwed up getting off 201 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,960 the tree. I'm just I'm not something that I'd have to ask God, 202 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:37,759 I guess to give me to do. But I look at the simplicity of 203 00:14:37,799 --> 00:14:41,679 the life that you guys are displaying and down to actual schoolhouses, like actually 204 00:14:41,759 --> 00:14:46,320 putting together a schoolhouse. Yeah, and this is something that I think could 205 00:14:46,399 --> 00:14:50,720 Number one rescue a lot of souls because there's that family, there's that being 206 00:14:50,759 --> 00:14:56,279 tight together. Number two make it difficult, more difficult for Satan to distract 207 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:03,759 and distort and depress because is this simplicity. Number Three, to really have 208 00:15:03,879 --> 00:15:07,639 to pay attention to the common blessings God provides us. I really have to 209 00:15:07,679 --> 00:15:11,960 be grateful for water and food. Yeah, I'm trying to do this thing 210 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:13,240 every morning of Hey, God, thank you for the coffee, thank you 211 00:15:13,279 --> 00:15:16,960 for this dog who gives me joy, thank you for this food. I'm 212 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:22,919 really trying to be in that mindset. So when you sustain a family based 213 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:26,799 upon this magazine, this isn't something that should just be for the Amish people. 214 00:15:26,279 --> 00:15:31,600 That's exactly That's what happened. As as we were publishing for the Amish, 215 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,320 there were folks like yourself that are not in that community that's started to 216 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:39,000 see it and go, well, dog gone, wait a second, I 217 00:15:39,039 --> 00:15:41,799 want to like, I want to get that. Yeah, and that's exactly 218 00:15:41,799 --> 00:15:45,919 what happened. And you know, out outside of that the Amish community, 219 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,759 now there are multiple, you know, thousands of subscribers that are not you 220 00:15:48,759 --> 00:15:52,159 know, they're Smith's and Jones's and you know everybody else. And so it's 221 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:56,440 it's been amazing. Yeah, I mean, you know, we we were 222 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:00,039 able to start a nonprofit, you know, we we able to shovel money 223 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:06,279 into nearly forty adoptions of kids with Down syndrome from all over the planet. 224 00:16:06,399 --> 00:16:10,840 Wow. And yeah, we've just been able to play a role in connecting 225 00:16:11,279 --> 00:16:15,200 those kids that need that hope because a lot of kids that are overseas that 226 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:19,120 are stuck in those you know, those really tough orphanages. A lot of 227 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:23,200 people don't know. But if if you are five and six and seven years 228 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:27,679 old and you're not adopted out of those you know, those places, oftentimes 229 00:16:27,879 --> 00:16:33,960 those kids get transferred into adult mental institutions and they die inside a year. 230 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:37,480 Ninety percent are dead inside a year. Well, I mean, down syndrome 231 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:44,039 is such an interesting thing God does with Down syndrome kids. And sometimes I 232 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:45,320 look at the Lord Jesus saying, hey, remember the least of these, 233 00:16:45,399 --> 00:16:48,000 the poor are always gonna be with us. Solicia with these are always gonna 234 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,519 be with us. And I got to believe the Lord is paying close attention 235 00:16:52,039 --> 00:16:56,279 to how we help or don't help the least of these. My friend Jana, 236 00:16:56,399 --> 00:17:02,519 who is very consistent viewer listener to the cast, I've lost track of 237 00:17:02,519 --> 00:17:06,279 how many kids she adopted. I think it's I think it might be fourteen. 238 00:17:06,319 --> 00:17:10,079 Overall, many of them have moved on to the Lord. Her daughter 239 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:14,799 Stacey has Down center and she's a pro war I'll tell you you'll recognize this 240 00:17:14,839 --> 00:17:18,680 as a father down sin theer kids. I used to be in the war 241 00:17:18,799 --> 00:17:22,640 Room ministry, the PERR ministry, and my life has changed, and I 242 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,920 missed my sisters, mostly sisters. In the war room Wednesday nights, there 243 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,400 was a lady who came in. Her husband's had met a woman online and 244 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:36,079 boy, she really loved him, and so he needed to leave this marriage 245 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:41,680 because this lady on the internet loved him and she came in broken hearted and 246 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:47,000 for a couple of pro sessions, and we were all really trying to pray 247 00:17:47,079 --> 00:17:53,720 eloquently and bring scripture into it and you know, use our human words to 248 00:17:53,799 --> 00:17:59,960 help God, because God needed help right and it came turned time per station 249 00:18:00,279 --> 00:18:04,440 to pray. Stacey said, God, tell her husband to stop being mean. 250 00:18:07,519 --> 00:18:14,799 There is I'm so not surprised. There is a an amazing christ likeness 251 00:18:15,559 --> 00:18:18,960 in kids with Down syndrome. There is nobody. You will not find anybody 252 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:23,559 with more joy, with more purity, with more innocence. They do not 253 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:29,960 have a mask to put on. They don't know how Our kids will walk 254 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,839 into a store and they're given hugs to everybody. They people just brighten up. 255 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:40,279 When when Adelaide and Bennett walk around, they just draw people in and 256 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:44,079 at times they will actually scare people. But Bennett loves nothing more than to 257 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,160 walk up to someone and just and just touch their shoulder, just you know, 258 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:52,519 just rub their back and they it has just it's been fantastic. Yeah, 259 00:18:52,559 --> 00:18:56,839 so yeah, fantastic. Your Lord Jesus said that you have to become 260 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:00,559 like a child, come childlike to really to really walk talk with him, 261 00:19:00,559 --> 00:19:03,720 and we'll talk more about this. I want to talk about the setup and 262 00:19:03,759 --> 00:19:08,559 how you live, and the schoolroom and some of the stories as you've met 263 00:19:08,599 --> 00:19:11,880 other people. I know you've been exposed to some stories of other people, 264 00:19:12,759 --> 00:19:19,119 and I have this I need somehow to kind of forgive myself in a way. 265 00:19:19,599 --> 00:19:22,599 When I was talking to this audience, and it's been three years that 266 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,359 I was talking with you about pharma and what farma does to people, and 267 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:32,440 here I was going home eating iberprofen and I've apologized to you for that. 268 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,440 It didn't occur to me how utterly hypocritical I was being. And I did 269 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,720 this all because of my training regimen and the things I'm trying to achieve and 270 00:19:40,759 --> 00:19:44,559 fitness as an older man. And I convinced myself, look, it's worth 271 00:19:44,599 --> 00:19:49,640 the risk and ethic back to my dad who probably helped kill himself with iberprofen, 272 00:19:49,839 --> 00:19:53,839 and the wine didn't help. The depression didn't help, his refusal to 273 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:59,440 treat his thiroid didn't help. The overeating didn't help, but he was always 274 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,200 in pain and always eating iyberprofen. So I had taken omega three's before. 275 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:10,599 Never in my life did I ever ever think that omega threes could replace iyberprofin. 276 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,519 So when Native path Crow came along and I tried it in two or 277 00:20:14,559 --> 00:20:18,119 three days, I remember calling Jen from the sales that Radio America who syndicates 278 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:22,960 our weekend show, and said, Okay, I gotta have another call with 279 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,039 these guys. I don't get it, like this shouldn't be this powerful, 280 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,599 but I don't need iberprofin. So we got the team on this said, 281 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,000 hey, A, we're really glad to hear that. B We're not surprised. 282 00:20:34,799 --> 00:20:38,839 The omega threes you've been taking are not as absorbable as this, not 283 00:20:40,039 --> 00:20:45,240 as bioavailable. Krill is not a fish, it's a crustacean. Also, 284 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,000 these come from the Arctic waters, so pure waters, without the heavy metals 285 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,319 things that can harm you. So we are not surprised, we're thrilled. 286 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,920 The reason I want to forgive myself is I never went to my dad. 287 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,880 I didn't have the knowledge to say, Dad, why are you snacking an 288 00:21:00,039 --> 00:21:06,799 iberprofen In addition to inflammation, it masks the information iyberprofen. It causes inflammation. 289 00:21:07,759 --> 00:21:11,160 It is eating away your gut, aligning to your guts, and therefore 290 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,640 particles that don't belong in your bloodstream are getting in there, so joint pain 291 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,079 heart issues Like iyberprofen, you want to destroy your heart, keep snacking on 292 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,440 iboprofen or your kid. These are your liver, so you don't need it. 293 00:21:22,599 --> 00:21:27,400 Please go to nativepathcrill dot com slash tod and see what specialist they're offering 294 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,599 you today. They're always doing something. Often the more you buy, the 295 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,480 more money you get off. I can't stop taking this stuff. I won't 296 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,000 stop taking it, and in fact, on the big workout days, I 297 00:21:37,039 --> 00:21:44,480 double down on It's nativepathcrill dot com, slash todd. So we joined together 298 00:21:44,599 --> 00:21:49,039 on the admiration and that this you said it well, that there christ like, 299 00:21:49,079 --> 00:21:52,680 the down centered people are christ Like, And we'll talk further about that. 300 00:21:52,759 --> 00:21:56,920 But God equipped you as a newspaper salesperson. Say you've been around the 301 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,960 publishing industry, you spotted a good idea, you knew how to execute, 302 00:22:02,079 --> 00:22:06,839 he equipped you in all these ways, but you're also building a community. 303 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,839 I mean, you guys have a school. We yeah, we do, 304 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,680 there are This is obviously much you know, it's part of a much bigger 305 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,039 story. But but our our three little kids. So I didn't quite get 306 00:22:19,079 --> 00:22:26,000 to Miles, our youngest. That's totally fine. So our home studies were 307 00:22:26,039 --> 00:22:29,799 done, we were we were all set right, and all of a sudden, 308 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:34,359 Lisa's started to think and feel like the Lord was kind of preparing her 309 00:22:34,559 --> 00:22:37,599 and us as a family to adopt again. And I said, well, 310 00:22:37,599 --> 00:22:41,640 babe, I'll I'll go to China. That's where she thought, you know 311 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,039 that that he was calling us. I said, hey, I'll go to 312 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:48,680 China if he if he calls us to go to China. And I tacked 313 00:22:48,759 --> 00:22:51,720 on a quick little phrase at the end, and I said something to the 314 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,759 effect of, but if he really wants us to adopt again, it'd be 315 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,240 it'd be super cool if he would just bring him to our door. Right 316 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:07,039 two two weeks later, literally two week old, Miles was physically brought to 317 00:23:07,079 --> 00:23:11,079 our door. And he brought Miles to your door. His birth family, 318 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:17,079 his birth family. He has something called mosaic down syndrome, and they were 319 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:23,240 they just really struggled with the possibilities of what that diagnosis means. Now, 320 00:23:23,319 --> 00:23:27,640 now I'll back up, we had never heard of mosaic Down syndrome. What 321 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:34,240 that basically means is that there is a fraction of the body that has tries 322 00:23:34,279 --> 00:23:37,440 to be twenty one. So our two other kids that have Down syndrome have 323 00:23:37,519 --> 00:23:41,480 it in every cell. Miles only has it in about fifteen or twenty percent 324 00:23:41,519 --> 00:23:47,240 of his body. So all that being said, our with our oldest son, 325 00:23:48,079 --> 00:23:52,160 I'll go back to the school with our oldest son and the struggles that 326 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,839 have been you know, to put it gently, kind of foisted upon him 327 00:23:56,119 --> 00:24:03,519 with all the trauma. Littles really need to be able to learn and grow 328 00:24:03,559 --> 00:24:10,720 how to do life with kids that are neurotypical and emotionally solid and sound. 329 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,160 And so we tried public school. That was a train wreck. You know, 330 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,839 Lisa has homeschool, she has her master's in education, she's been homeschooling 331 00:24:18,839 --> 00:24:22,839 our kids all the way you know, through. But but we we really 332 00:24:22,839 --> 00:24:26,079 felt that there was something more, and so we bought the bones of an 333 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:30,279 eighteen fifty one room school house. We trucked it up from Cincinnati, you 334 00:24:30,319 --> 00:24:33,680 know, a couple I don't know, four hours away and headed on the 335 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:38,920 back of a semi We are nearly done building this thing, and it is 336 00:24:40,079 --> 00:24:42,759 just I mean, the Lord has has just knocked our socks off all over 337 00:24:42,799 --> 00:24:47,599 again. So it's it's it's gonna be fantastic. We're gonna have We already 338 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,839 have our teacher lined up, everything's ready to go the board, the policies 339 00:24:49,839 --> 00:24:52,839 are set, and we are now at the place. In fact, Lisa 340 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:57,039 just told me this morning that she's now starting to take applications. We are 341 00:24:57,039 --> 00:25:03,799 going to basically have room for about twelve to fourteen children total with our three 342 00:25:03,839 --> 00:25:07,359 and you know, included, and it's gonna be a really, really good 343 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:08,440 thing. It's only gonna be a couple days a week. We're still going 344 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:14,119 to homeschool, but it's gonna be this beautiful uh you know, mish mash 345 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:17,400 Uh, it's gonna be great. And this is gonna be special needs kids. 346 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,759 Actually said, you're gonna write, right, are our three kids? 347 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,759 You know obviously you have special needs, but but the goal is to not 348 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,880 have it be just kids with special needs. We we want to have because 349 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,960 okay, I got a back up I'm sorry. There is something special that 350 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:41,839 happens when your kids, or your grandkids, or or any chance you get 351 00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:45,000 to put a child with a child that is different from him or herself. 352 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,920 You know, somebody with Down syndrome, somebody with pinabifitous rubert palsy. That 353 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:56,400 child makes the other children better and vice versa. There's more empathy, there's 354 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,599 more. They just learn so much and that's what you want to do. 355 00:26:00,759 --> 00:26:07,319 Yeah, I love them. So I can hear in my mind people watching 356 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,119 and they are listening to this saying, oh, it's so neat for you 357 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,000 that God speaks to you. And I've had moments and I've shared them on 358 00:26:14,039 --> 00:26:18,160 the cast where God has plainly and clearly spoken to me plainly and clearly, 359 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,640 and I've shared enough of those that I won't take your time up to share 360 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,279 them. There are other people who say, well, God's never given me 361 00:26:26,319 --> 00:26:30,799 the big task. I remember when it became clear to me that I wasn't 362 00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:33,359 going to be able to stay in local radio and at a very successful God 363 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:38,920 to give me a very successful morning show market dominant for many years. And 364 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:44,839 then the speech codes came. And I remember when the first speech codes arrived, 365 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,319 I said at the time. Look, I'm willing to not say fake 366 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,559 news because I don't say it, so no, biggie. But eventually you're 367 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,720 going to come around with something. You're going to tell me I can't say 368 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,640 something, and I'm going to quit. And their point of view is no, 369 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:00,200 no, it's these things. He said, No, that's not the 370 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,200 way speech codes work. Once someone gets blood in the water and they go, 371 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,799 oh, look, I get to control what other people say. There's 372 00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:11,000 blood in the water. And so when it came about that, they told 373 00:27:11,079 --> 00:27:12,960 me you can't say the election was rigged or stolen. Okay, Well I 374 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,799 quit and on the spot done and went home and told my wife, Hey, 375 00:27:18,839 --> 00:27:22,079 by the way, you know that five year contract, all that guaranteed 376 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,359 money. I said no to that, and they're going to pay me. 377 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,799 And they had to pay me out six months. They chose to end the 378 00:27:29,799 --> 00:27:33,559 show in three months, which made sense. And I remember almost panicking mar 379 00:27:33,599 --> 00:27:37,880 when I was driving. I remember exactly where I was in the road, 380 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,200 and I said to the Lord, I don't know how to do a podcast 381 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,759 with God at the center. I don't know how to do this, like 382 00:27:41,839 --> 00:27:45,559 to actually do a godly podcast. And he didn't call me a fool, 383 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:52,640 But he said, why are you making this hard? Satan is the world's 384 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:59,000 first politician, He's the first dividing force. He's doing intersectional politics. I 385 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,000 sent you to DC. You saw that you worked in Silicon Valley, you 386 00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:06,519 saw that you worked in entertainment in Hollywood. You saw that you get this. 387 00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:10,759 Please don't make this complicated. I prepped you for this. So I 388 00:28:10,799 --> 00:28:15,200 was given this assignment, and I read a book called Experiencing God that God's 389 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,680 not going to give you the big assignment until you finish home with the last 390 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:23,279 one. But I can see and just visualize people listening and hearing this or 391 00:28:23,319 --> 00:28:30,119 watching it saying I never got my big assignment. So how does A how 392 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,640 does God speak to you? And Lisa and B what do you say to 393 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,759 people are saying, Hey, dude, I don't I don't have a big 394 00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:41,640 assignment from God. Oh man, you know, I think I think for 395 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:48,680 me, the only time that I really heard really clearly from him was way 396 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:55,960 way way early on, and he basically said, and I think this was 397 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,519 maybe, you know, maybe a year in or so, you know, 398 00:28:57,799 --> 00:29:00,599 after we had run our test and kind of saw that this thing had a 399 00:29:00,599 --> 00:29:07,680 little bit of room to run. And and I remember so clearly he said, 400 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,960 he said, I'm going to give you a voice. What are you 401 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,920 going to do with it? That's the same words that That's what I remember 402 00:29:15,359 --> 00:29:19,039 hearing so clearly. And and I remember I told Lisa, I said, 403 00:29:19,079 --> 00:29:25,200 Babe, we have to figure out what we care about the most. What 404 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,440 what are we going to put in this magazine? And and Todd. We 405 00:29:27,519 --> 00:29:33,920 talk about a vast array of you know, many many different aspects of life. 406 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,759 In fact, some of our readers have said, marvel, what in 407 00:29:36,799 --> 00:29:41,039 the world what is Plain Values really about? Because we talk about, you 408 00:29:41,079 --> 00:29:45,039 know, grief and loss. We talk about uh, you know Joel Salaton, 409 00:29:45,119 --> 00:29:48,119 the granddad of the homesteading movement, as a friend, and he writes 410 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,880 every month about homesteading and soil and just all kinds of great stuff. And 411 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,839 there's many many other things. You know. We put stories of adoptions, 412 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,880 We talk about all kinds of ministries. We talk about a lot of different 413 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:02,759 stuff. And when you really boil it down, we want to encourage people, 414 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,640 like you said early on that that living a faith centered simple life in 415 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:12,440 twenty twenty four is still possible. We have chickens and goats and pigs. 416 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:17,039 We have a flock of you know, little lambs right now. We do 417 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,519 a lot of so called farming. I am, by no means a farmer. 418 00:30:19,599 --> 00:30:26,720 I'm just not, but I love it. And Lisa we so she 419 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:33,039 started our whole animal journey because of the children, because she wanted to get 420 00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:37,839 some therapy animals. You know, pigs are fantastic, you know, for 421 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,119 kids. And so today on our little twelve acres, you know, we 422 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,680 have a bunch of you know, hooves and feet, and you know, 423 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,480 there's a whole flock of chickens and everything else. But the point is there's 424 00:30:48,519 --> 00:30:55,599 something really really special about going back. Everybody's talking about progress. Well that 425 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,440 to go back to the way that the Lord designed us to garden and to 426 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,599 farm. There are so there's so many good parts because you're just in touch 427 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,359 with life. Yes, that's it. You're touching life. You're touching dirt. 428 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,680 Like I don't know a lot of people watching and listening to this, 429 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,200 I'm asking you a question, for real, when's the last time you put 430 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,480 your hands in dirt? Right? When is the last time you drank water 431 00:31:18,519 --> 00:31:21,200 from a stream? I mean I can remember the last time. It was 432 00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:23,039 last summer, last time I drank water from a stream and it was, 433 00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:26,400 you know, coming out well filtered. We could see it was going to 434 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,920 be safe, and man, the joy of doing that. We watch a 435 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,480 TV show called a homestead Rescue and I love that show. I love the 436 00:31:34,519 --> 00:31:38,200 family and they just seem to have it all nailed. They go into these 437 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,960 home sets that are suffering, they help them. And by the way, 438 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,880 they get a lot of help. Not everyone has a construction crew falling around, 439 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,119 and I love they kind of added to the TV show, you know, 440 00:31:48,279 --> 00:31:49,920 the family. We wish have helped from a construction crew of two hundred 441 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,920 people and a bunch of money from a cable network, but they actually do 442 00:31:55,000 --> 00:32:00,759 homestead and homesteading to me means that you don't necessarily need the outside world, 443 00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:04,000 that you are self sustaining right, that you produce your own power, your 444 00:32:04,039 --> 00:32:06,880 own food. I mean the evil of property tax being what it is, 445 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,400 you have to pay that. But so you have you guys write about homesteading. 446 00:32:09,559 --> 00:32:14,599 We do, Yeah, we do. It has been an amazing blessing. 447 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,359 You know, we live in the middle of of you know, the 448 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:21,759 biggest Amish settlement on the planet. You know. We we have a valley 449 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:27,519 where We are probably one of two families that are not amish inside our little 450 00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:31,759 circle of maybe ten or so neighbors. And so as as we have grown 451 00:32:32,319 --> 00:32:37,920 are my next door neighbor, Ivan is a big homesteader as well, and 452 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:43,599 so the two of our families have have really collaborated well, and we we 453 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,160 now butcher all of our meat birds. We have butchered our, you know, 454 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,680 our hogs the last couple of years. And as we've done it, 455 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,240 Todd a bunch of the other neighbor families have started to say, hey, 456 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,039 well, well I want to like, I want to learn how to do 457 00:32:57,079 --> 00:32:59,640 that, and they will do their own meat birds. And then we all 458 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,279 go house to house to house and we just have a kill night. That 459 00:33:02,359 --> 00:33:06,920 sounds kind of, you know, kind of fun, but if you've not 460 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,440 killed an animal, that's what it is. It's killing an animal. Death 461 00:33:09,559 --> 00:33:14,599 is so totally part of life. And and that's in a in a in 462 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:21,480 a crude way. Animals are here for us to eat and and and you 463 00:33:21,759 --> 00:33:23,759 you don't want to eat them alive, obviously, And so right my daughter's 464 00:33:23,759 --> 00:33:27,039 a vegan. That breaks our heart to hear those things, and that's her 465 00:33:27,119 --> 00:33:30,799 choice she makes, and I support that. And you're not preventing the death 466 00:33:30,839 --> 00:33:32,400 of an animal, You're choosing how it dies. Right. Uh. And 467 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,160 in the case I assume you guys do this city humane sense, I mean, 468 00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:40,640 right quickly, absolutely. And I hope it never gets fun. I 469 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:45,039 hope killed night's never fun. No, no, And it is because of 470 00:33:45,079 --> 00:33:51,160 the neighborhood and the friendships and the joys of being together and and there there 471 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,440 is something special. The pandemic, Oh my goodness, I made it taught 472 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,160 us so much about where our food comes from and where it doesn't come from 473 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,799 and all this and that, and to be able to know that the chicken 474 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:06,960 that you're eating is is you know, on it's on grass. That Salaton 475 00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:10,320 wrote a book called The Marvelous Pigness of Pigs. It is absolutely the best 476 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:15,239 book he's ever written. And and and the and the guts of it is 477 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:21,719 really very simple. When you put a hog on concrete inside a barn and 478 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,960 it never sees the light of day, you are stripping it of its pigness 479 00:34:25,519 --> 00:34:30,840 that God built into that pig. They are built and designed to go root 480 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,679 around and tear around in the woods and run and play and have fun. 481 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,079 They are smarter than snot Yeah, And and they you do the same thing 482 00:34:38,119 --> 00:34:42,760 with a chicken. When you have eighty thousand birds in a big in a 483 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,000 big chicken barn, and they are literally jammed in there, they never get 484 00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:50,639 to, you know, eat a bug and grass. You're stripping it of 485 00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:57,039 its God given everything right. And so to be able to give that animal 486 00:34:57,159 --> 00:35:00,000 dignity and and and a chance to live the way that it was intended to 487 00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:05,480 live, there's a big fulfillment that comes out of that. It's a joy. 488 00:35:06,039 --> 00:35:08,119 And boy, I went through a period of time where I was a 489 00:35:08,199 --> 00:35:14,639 vegetarian and it was because I saw people butchering hogs in ways it should never 490 00:35:14,639 --> 00:35:20,920 be done. And I'm talking about torturing them. I'm talking about enjoying inflicting 491 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,679 pain. And that's not okay with any living being to enjoy inflicting pain. 492 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:28,239 I grew up hunting. Some of my dearest friends are hunters. And still 493 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,320 I know this. When my friends take a life that they go and they 494 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:35,039 reflect upon, Wow, you just took everything that thing ever had or ever 495 00:35:35,079 --> 00:35:37,599 will have. That's heavy. And I get the community thing, and I 496 00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:42,679 love it. I love what I'm hearing. So but you think this is 497 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,360 achievable for more people. You think more people could homestead. I do. 498 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,960 I think it's I don't think it's as hard as people think it is. 499 00:35:51,039 --> 00:35:52,360 Really, I don't think it is. So what do you start with? 500 00:35:53,079 --> 00:35:58,559 Fruit? Trees? Berries? Like where he starts, do something? Okay, 501 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,519 I mean, you know, if it's simply a tomato plant on a 502 00:36:00,559 --> 00:36:06,360 patio, do something, just start and and I've heard it over and over 503 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,159 and over, people say, you know, they got a couple, you 504 00:36:08,159 --> 00:36:10,480 know, they got a couple of laying hands, and all of a sudden, 505 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,000 you know, they're pinching each other and they get to you know, 506 00:36:14,039 --> 00:36:15,400 crack open that egg, and they're like, well, this came out of 507 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:20,039 our backyard, right, and so it just kind of shoots them down that, 508 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,079 you know, that that little wormhole and they can't get out and so 509 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,400 all of a sudden. Now now I'm not saying that that finding a piece 510 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:32,039 of land is easy or inexpensive. I know that it is, but it's 511 00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:36,639 it's so it's so worth it and if we more did it, and this 512 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,280 is I mean, this can you know my podcast says a lot of political 513 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:44,480 content in addition to the word of God. It's it's what we talk about 514 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,159 you talked about the pandemic. I would refer to it as a lockdown. 515 00:36:47,199 --> 00:36:51,960 I don't think the flu caused any of this. This to me was a 516 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,320 political decision. There was a lot to it. It was pre planned. 517 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:58,519 I'm all of that view. And yes, we learned a lot, such 518 00:36:58,559 --> 00:37:01,920 as if you're waiting for the great handed government to come and feed you, 519 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:07,480 you are signing up for ruin sorely, right, yeah, And you know 520 00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:10,039 if you are outside of that world, like in North Idaho, we locked 521 00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:13,360 down for about two weeks and then we're like, oh, we're done with 522 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,679 this. So things went back to normal. But being self sustaining isn't because 523 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:22,800 you are now saying, Dear Lord, help us with our chickens, help 524 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,880 us with our hawks. You know, we've had a drought. Gosh, 525 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,519 how are we going to water our animals. We've had a feed disruption. 526 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,440 How are we going to feed our animals? So I think it brings us 527 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:37,000 back to needing God, which is a far different thing from God is convenient 528 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,400 on Sunday mornings, right, yeah, right, And so I'm glad to 529 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,039 know you think more people can do this. I'll wrap this up by getting 530 00:37:43,079 --> 00:37:46,840 back to the discussion of your in this community and near this community. And 531 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,039 I find that very very interesting, given that the publication reaches so many a 532 00:37:51,159 --> 00:37:53,440 much people. So we'll wrap that up in a second. If you're hearing 533 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:59,000 this on Thursday and or watching it on the twenty sixth of June, it's 534 00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:01,440 dropped in a day where tonight you might have and I can't say for sure, 535 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:06,440 but you might have a chance to get into the free live webinar that 536 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,199 my friend Zach Abraham is putting on Friendly Brothers on the show every Friday. 537 00:38:09,639 --> 00:38:14,320 Chief Investment offs are Bulwark Capital Management, and let me say this way that 538 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:20,559 he talks about inflation as a silent killer, silent assassin of retirement accounts. 539 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:25,039 Let me give you this picture that you have stored water, okay, and 540 00:38:24,679 --> 00:38:29,320 it's well done. It's taken out of your well. You've stored it, 541 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,840 but you left just a little bit of oxygen in the container, just a 542 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:37,320 little bit, not much, but you didn't completely get all the oxygen out. 543 00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:42,159 No big deal. For a week, maybe a month, you try 544 00:38:42,159 --> 00:38:45,760 to access and drink that water. Let's say a year from now, it's 545 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,519 gonna be futrid and gross. You're not gonna be able to drink it. 546 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,360 It's gonna be bad for you. You might be able to pour it on 547 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,599 your lawn. It's a silent assassin. If you don't clean, like if 548 00:38:53,599 --> 00:38:59,360 you're canning something and you do not properly sterilize the container, you can be 549 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:04,559 giving yourself m and you can be killing your family. Your retirement portfolio may 550 00:39:04,599 --> 00:39:07,480 look great on paper right now, on a screen right now, but here's 551 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,840 the question. How many of the stocks, how many what you own, 552 00:39:12,199 --> 00:39:16,840 are going to be eaten by inflation? That's the question. There are inflationary 553 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:23,119 assets you should own and that can balance what's coming with this silent assassin. 554 00:39:23,519 --> 00:39:28,880 Zach will go through these options. How they do it at Bulwark Capital Management, 555 00:39:29,079 --> 00:39:34,239 how they use active management of every portfolio which can reduce risk and volatility. 556 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,760 What that is all like. But you have to register today. It's 557 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:42,800 at three thirty Pacific today Thursday, the twenty sixth of June. Go to 558 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,360 Know your Risk radio dot com. That's know Know your Risk Radio dot com 559 00:39:46,599 --> 00:39:52,239 and register Buller Capital Managements and Investment Advisor representative of Treeck Financial LLC and sec 560 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,679 Register Investment Advisor. Investments involved risk you could lose money, and past performance 561 00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:00,039 does not necessarily guarantee future results. Image of you, Marlin, in your 562 00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:05,880 family and God has blessed you and helping people homestead and live simply and learn 563 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,760 about grief and overcoming grief. All of this God centered. And what have 564 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:15,000 you learned? What has God shown you? As you are no longer Amish? 565 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,800 But she write to an Amish community and anyone can subscribe to Planned by 566 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,119 his magazine. There's a link in the show notes. I think you should 567 00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:27,159 subscribe. What have you learns? What has God taught you now that you 568 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,960 are around the Amish people, but not necessarily of the Amish people. Well, 569 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,480 number one, it's a great question. I think I would. I 570 00:40:35,519 --> 00:40:40,039 think I would answer it this way. We all need each other in more 571 00:40:40,079 --> 00:40:45,559 ways than what we can imagine. And I think one thing that has kind 572 00:40:45,559 --> 00:40:49,480 of, you know, just like cream, rises to the top. The 573 00:40:49,519 --> 00:40:54,079 story that has come back to that over and over again is when that there 574 00:40:54,159 --> 00:40:59,960 was a friend who lost his wife about forty years old or so, she 575 00:41:00,119 --> 00:41:02,960 passed away of cancer, and they had just had a little girl with Down 576 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,679 syndrome. She was two years old. And the back you know, the 577 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:12,199 back farm neighbor, Uh said to their mutual guy friends. Hey, let's 578 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,400 go hang out on his porch every Wednesday morning, seven o'clock. Let's go 579 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,559 sit on his porch and just and just be there. Like it wasn't really 580 00:41:17,559 --> 00:41:21,280 a Bible study, It wasn't really a business mastermind of well, I got 581 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:22,920 this problem, you know, how, how would you guys deal with it? 582 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:27,760 It was just being there and sometimes they talked and other times they didn't. 583 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:34,280 And two years later, the friend who started porch time, his little 584 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,760 daughter nine years old, passed away from her special need. And those same 585 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:45,280 guys who went and sat on his porch. Wow, Todd, We Lisa 586 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,880 and I have have gone through some some deep water. And and this might 587 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,280 sound like I'm a bit of a jerk, but I don't have time for 588 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,960 shallow people. I just and that's something that I got to be careful of. 589 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,400 And and and I know I'm extraly sinful, but I want to talk 590 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,800 about stuff that matters. I want to talk about real stuff. You know 591 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,639 what, I don't care about your mask. We're all broken, right, 592 00:42:08,679 --> 00:42:13,079 We're all broken. Let's admit it. Let's just talk about it. Let's 593 00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:16,239 be real. And if you're amish or not, I don't. I don't 594 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:22,280 care. It just doesn't matter. And I think there are so many there's 595 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:28,519 so many hurting people everywhere. Yeah and yeah, like we're designed to do 596 00:42:28,599 --> 00:42:30,440 this, to talk, you know, to talk for real, and I 597 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:35,000 love it. So you're welcome to the community. That's exactly right, right, 598 00:42:35,079 --> 00:42:37,760 right, And you're welcome to this community in the evangelical community, and 599 00:42:37,199 --> 00:42:40,679 you know you talk about those deep waters. I'm very much like you. 600 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:45,159 I have almost an allergic reaction to small talk. Right. If I'm in 601 00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:50,760 a group of people, I'm stating there and it turns to small talk issues. 602 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,559 I get it. Some people, that's how some people learn it. 603 00:42:52,639 --> 00:42:57,320 So some people relate, and I can become very judgmental, and I try 604 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,400 not to do that, but I almost start itching. Yeah, And I 605 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,199 don't have that switch, right, I don't. And this is one of 606 00:43:02,199 --> 00:43:07,159 the reasons there's a terrible quote networker in business, because I want to know 607 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:12,719 you, right, and and I don't. Yeah, we can talk about 608 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,760 your business for a little bit, but when I say, hey, how's 609 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:15,400 your family, No, it's good, man, it's all good. We're 610 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,920 solid. No you're not. Yeah, No, you're lying, and you're 611 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,800 not willing to go and actually say hey, let's have a relationship. And 612 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,239 I'll tell you, no, these are challenges. So when you see the 613 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:31,119 challenges that your children have, you know, Down syndrome and autism, they're 614 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:38,079 I want to say this, I imagine that they're unique by type, but 615 00:43:38,159 --> 00:43:44,880 perhaps not by category, like we all have challenges. Yeah, are there's 616 00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:49,079 truly truly that bizarre that we can't understand him? No, No, not 617 00:43:49,159 --> 00:43:53,079 at all. I mean are our son who is nonverbal? Benny is the 618 00:43:53,119 --> 00:43:59,079 sweetest little fart you ever met, and he gets his point across. I 619 00:43:59,119 --> 00:44:04,920 mean he you know, he can sign yeah, and he does communicate in 620 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,760 his own way. And Adelaide will sing her heart out all day, but 621 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:15,639 she struggles in other ways. And and Miles, I mean like our little 622 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,920 guy, he's he's just an incredible, you little blessing. And so yeah, 623 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,480 we're all. We're all, you know, messed up and broken in 624 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:29,440 some way. I think I think children with Down syndrome are this amazing little 625 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:35,280 photo or this little insight into what God wants us. I'm not saying that 626 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,960 he wants us to be like them in every way, because they're stubborn and 627 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:42,920 and and sinful as we are they They just have They just have a way 628 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,000 of being so real and so authentic in so many ways so quickly. It's 629 00:44:46,159 --> 00:44:50,320 it's it's a huge blessing. Yeah. I mean the prodigal son, he 630 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,000 goes rushing to the boy right and embraces him. And that's what God wants 631 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:57,920 to do, is we come home and we finally take the knee and finally 632 00:44:58,039 --> 00:45:00,239 decide to submit to God. If I haven't made that decision yet, know 633 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,119 that the Lord has his arms open to you. You simply need to accept 634 00:45:04,159 --> 00:45:07,679 him as your Lord and savior and he will change you. And it doesn't 635 00:45:07,679 --> 00:45:08,960 mean your problems are older. You're going to have problems in this world, 636 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:13,440 but he will change you and you become more like him. Appreciate you coming 637 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,599 on and thank you, my brother playing Value magazine link in the show notes. 638 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,400 This is the Todd Herman Shaw. Please go, be well, be 639 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,840 strong, be kind, and please make every effort to walk in the life 640 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:22,280 of Christ.