1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,720 Cobblestone on Maine at one on nine West Main Street in the village of Webster 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,519 is such a fun place to hang out with friends and family at their upscale 3 00:00:07,519 --> 00:00:10,800 bar. They have a whole section of their menu called First Bice. It's 4 00:00:10,839 --> 00:00:15,359 basically shareables, like they're amazing green pretzel sticks, spicy mustard and queso, 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,480 and then you choose the topping on the pretzel stick. You can get salt 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,320 or you can get everything. Think like the Everything bagel Yeah, or the 7 00:00:22,359 --> 00:00:28,480 Southwest Chicken nachos, crab cakes, the pow tots housemade tater tots, crispy 8 00:00:28,519 --> 00:00:33,520 bacon yancees, cheese curds, housemade gravy. It's like poutine with tots. 9 00:00:33,719 --> 00:00:37,159 It's awesome. I plan on getting out there this week for the hot Pastrami 10 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:42,240 sandwich, Pastrami provolone, roasted red peppers, mixed greens, horse raddish cream, 11 00:00:42,399 --> 00:00:48,039 toasted brios roll look lunch, dinner, intimate dining, date night, 12 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,159 casual hang out with friends and families at their upscale bar. Cobblestone on Main's 13 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,119 Got You Covered at one on nine West Main Street in the village of Webster. 14 00:00:55,439 --> 00:00:58,960 Check out their menu at Cobblestone on Maine dot Com from the Mac of 15 00:00:59,039 --> 00:01:03,879 All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler dots jee Brahm. It's 16 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:23,120 Bilified the Bill Moran Podcast. Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for getting 17 00:01:23,159 --> 00:01:26,560 your pod on, Thanks for telling a friend. And that's how we spread 18 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:32,120 the word about the pirate ship. One person out of times spread the word. 19 00:01:32,159 --> 00:01:38,280 Follow us on Instagram Builified Underscore pod. Check out our YouTube page. 20 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,159 You can watch us live. There more things coming to that. All kinds 21 00:01:42,159 --> 00:01:46,000 of fun stuff. Good weekend, Dnny, Yeah, not mad yourself, 22 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,560 It's all right, It's all right, really good much anything. Celebrate my 23 00:01:49,599 --> 00:01:53,760 anniversary this weekend. I know. After dinner, Yeah, where'd you go? 24 00:01:53,439 --> 00:01:57,519 We went to an Italian joint in town. Yeah, pop it a 25 00:01:57,519 --> 00:02:00,519 boopy, Pop it a boopy, because I would wait, I can wait 26 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,120 a second, Wait a second, You're not saying the name of it, 27 00:02:02,439 --> 00:02:07,319 so therefore I'm going to guess you went to Olive Garden. Oh no, 28 00:02:07,719 --> 00:02:09,840 no, this is not a chain, this is not a change. But 29 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,800 I don't want to name the restaurant because of what I'm about to say. 30 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,080 Service was great, weight, it was great, The host was great. 31 00:02:16,879 --> 00:02:22,680 You got food poisoning. No, I'm Italian. I know what Italian food's 32 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,520 supposed to taste like, even in a restaurant. Okay, So my wife, 33 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:29,479 she goes, hey, I don't want to start a fight. It's 34 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,439 her anniversary dinner. I go, oh, I don't want to start a 35 00:02:31,479 --> 00:02:34,199 fight. She was not a fight, but I don't. I don't want 36 00:02:34,199 --> 00:02:36,319 to start an argument. I go, okay, what does that mean? 37 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,960 She goes, I don't. I don't mean for this to come out the 38 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:43,240 wrong way. But the way you criticized the calamari reminded me of something. 39 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,439 I said, Okay, oh, well, whoa whoa, whoa whoa whoa 40 00:02:45,479 --> 00:02:49,599 whoa, whoa whoa. This is your anniversary. Yeah, this is anniversary. 41 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,000 The way you criticize she was smiling. She wasn't like, you know, 42 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:54,879 going to like want or anything. I don't want to bring this up 43 00:02:54,919 --> 00:03:00,280 now, but since what she did when we first started dating, in the 44 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,560 first couple of years, you know, you were very open minded, and 45 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:10,240 now you seem a little bit more. Judgment is not wrong, you are, 46 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:15,159 she is not wrong. So I said, okay, okay, now 47 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:20,360 hang on, I'll explain my piece too in a second. But continue, 48 00:03:20,439 --> 00:03:23,199 I want you to think everybody's beating up on you. Okay, could you 49 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,120 give me some so I started laughing. Could you provide you with some examples? 50 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,879 Because I go, hey, let's talk about it. She goes, 51 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:30,639 no to our anniverse. I go, no, no, tell me, 52 00:03:31,039 --> 00:03:36,240 well, you criticize the kalamari. I go, yeah, I've had better 53 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,400 klamari. I go, this is not homemade calamari in an Italian restaurant. 54 00:03:39,439 --> 00:03:43,400 I expect for the price that you're paying, this is hey, frozen, 55 00:03:43,719 --> 00:03:45,759 Yeah, frozen. We pulled it out of a box, throw it in 56 00:03:45,759 --> 00:03:47,800 the fryar, and threw it out a da night. I worked at a 57 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:53,000 restaurant. I know what that looks like. I've had I've had kalamari, 58 00:03:53,159 --> 00:03:57,680 good calamari in Rochester, and I've had mediocre klamari, and I've had bad 59 00:03:57,759 --> 00:04:00,560 calamari. This is more along the lines of mediocre came of the rides. 60 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,719 Okay, yeah right, I've had homemade fried klamari that was amazing, amazing, 61 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:09,360 Okay, this wasn't that okay, and then later the dish that came 62 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,439 out was kind of sloppy. But we don't care about any of that. 63 00:04:12,719 --> 00:04:15,400 Point is so you don't care about any of it. We care about We 64 00:04:15,479 --> 00:04:20,639 care about the fact that it reminded her of being judgment minded and judgmental, 65 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,680 my friend, quick to judge, quick to judge. Okay. And I 66 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,800 said to her, okay, you said, give me examples there, and 67 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,040 she said, the KA the only examples she could give, the only examples 68 00:04:32,079 --> 00:04:35,439 she could give. Yes, I don't believe. Now there's often times where 69 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:40,199 where she will come home and she's a teacher, yes, and she will 70 00:04:40,319 --> 00:04:44,480 vent to me about how much teaching has become very very difficult. Okay, 71 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,319 more and more powers going to the students and less of what's going to the 72 00:04:46,319 --> 00:04:50,160 authority figures. And you say, parents are so, and you go off. 73 00:04:50,319 --> 00:04:53,600 I advise her, No, you go off. Yeah, what you 74 00:04:53,639 --> 00:04:56,319 do? You don't advise? You go off? Yeah, I go off. 75 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:01,000 And sometimes I think that sometimes not always, and I'm not I'm certainly 76 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:09,000 no tash master. But if if you can learn from your failures, learn 77 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:14,480 from mine. Sometimes people don't people and I don't mean women, but in 78 00:05:14,519 --> 00:05:18,879 your case, your wife, she doesn't want to hear your prescription. Yes, 79 00:05:19,079 --> 00:05:24,839 she wants to be able to just vent vent And sometimes the best thing 80 00:05:24,879 --> 00:05:30,399 to do when someone's venting, is let them vent and then no, no, 81 00:05:30,399 --> 00:05:32,399 no hahah don't uhhuh, don't do that. See now, no, 82 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,839 because this is what you're gonna do. I see it already, I see 83 00:05:36,879 --> 00:05:43,800 it already. This is what you do. You got what you do is 84 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,879 you start hying. You feel like you need to solve it. And I 85 00:05:46,879 --> 00:05:49,639 think most men, I think most men, and I do think this is 86 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:54,160 more a male thing, and I hope that doesn't come off misogynistic to some 87 00:05:54,199 --> 00:05:58,279 people, but I think men like to try to solve the considered fixers, 88 00:05:58,399 --> 00:06:01,079 right. We want to solve the problem, and especially when it's for someone 89 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,439 that we love who seems to be in pain, I think that that's all 90 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:09,399 valid. But I think sometimes you've got to be able to judge what that 91 00:06:09,639 --> 00:06:14,439 is. And so you know, I would always sit back. What I 92 00:06:14,439 --> 00:06:17,560 would tell somebody to do now is sit back and just listen and give things 93 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:23,800 like man that like almost match their emotion, like God, that does suck? 94 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:28,759 That sounds really difficult, right, and and just let them get it 95 00:06:28,759 --> 00:06:31,360 out and be on their side, and then say and then maybe say, 96 00:06:32,519 --> 00:06:36,439 I don't know if you're open to suggestions, but maybe try this and keep 97 00:06:36,519 --> 00:06:41,839 it simple. Less said the better, The less said the better. And 98 00:06:41,879 --> 00:06:46,160 the one thing that like most guys don't do well is listen to the yan 99 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,879 and yan yang. Yeah I get it, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100 00:06:48,959 --> 00:06:55,079 yeah, here we go again. Mine starts right, but but your mind 101 00:06:55,079 --> 00:06:58,040 starts wandering on other things and then you hear the story. Okay, well, 102 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,680 I'm guilty of that. I'm not a I usually I try to lock 103 00:07:00,759 --> 00:07:03,199 in. You got to try to lock in. You got to give her 104 00:07:03,199 --> 00:07:08,240 to the fish. I've got better at that. Yeah, But the judgmental 105 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:13,199 stuff. I think that you. I think that Danny, if I may 106 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:17,160 say, had become sick and tired of shit that you're seeing in the world. 107 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,800 I'm sick, and that you have thoughts on how this should be fixed 108 00:07:21,839 --> 00:07:26,079 and we shouldn't allow this sort of thing and bob bah and that would be 109 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,199 a little more closed minded than you were. I don't want to turn into 110 00:07:29,319 --> 00:07:31,879 get off my lawn guy, but you're getting there. The problem is is 111 00:07:31,959 --> 00:07:36,279 that there aren't enough guys who in this country, in America, who are 112 00:07:36,319 --> 00:07:40,519 willing to take at least just one step, so the rest of us feel 113 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,240 like they have to take ten to fix this. You know what, I'm 114 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,519 saying, we're taking the first step of, like, I don't know, 115 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,920 parenting your kids. Yeah, so now my wife has to deal with these 116 00:07:48,959 --> 00:07:57,000 idiots. Okay, so your idiots, yes, but but I don't Okay, 117 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:01,639 this this will lead us into our next segment and I'll hold I'll move 118 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,720 think. No, this is fine. This is what I never mind. 119 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,199 I'm not going to get into that. I was gonna say, is just 120 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:15,639 in terms of how we do the show, But it doesn't matter. I 121 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:22,920 think that a lot of times things. Is it possible the kids behavior is 122 00:08:22,959 --> 00:08:26,040 different today? Yes? Is there a lack of parenting? I guess. 123 00:08:26,079 --> 00:08:28,920 I don't know what school district she's in, I can tell you, but 124 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:33,639 but there's things in every school district, so things are pretty similar. She's 125 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,240 in a middle school though, correct, right, Okay, those are the 126 00:08:35,279 --> 00:08:41,720 fucking worst. It's the worst years. And I do think that social media 127 00:08:41,759 --> 00:08:45,080 and the influence of that sort of thing. I used to kind of get 128 00:08:45,399 --> 00:08:48,919 a little bit cringey as a parent when I would watch Disney with the boys, 129 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,720 because there was always it was like a tutorial on how to be a 130 00:08:52,759 --> 00:08:56,720 smart ass. They love Zach and Cody. They lived in a hotel but 131 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:01,320 they always had these quick lines and little little singers, and I went, 132 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,519 my god, this is a tutorial, kid, because think of any one 133 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,440 of us all the way through. I don't want you to say that you 134 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,799 can't pick on this generation. It's just what was available. So my parents, 135 00:09:13,879 --> 00:09:16,960 you couldn't have a a rated R movie in the house when I was 136 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,720 growing up. But I remember the first marat of our movie I watched and 137 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:24,279 I didn't have I didn't have a cable, so I didn't have I didn't 138 00:09:24,279 --> 00:09:28,159 get to see all this until like nineteen eighty nine, where you had those 139 00:09:28,159 --> 00:09:33,000 shows that were, you know whatever, you can even do different strokes. 140 00:09:33,039 --> 00:09:35,720 They had no what you talk about willis yeah, you know that kind of 141 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,519 thing that everybody repeated, right, and you learned different things along the way. 142 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,720 People would start doing Eddie Murphy style jokes because Delirious was out and all 143 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,320 that. It's the same thing. But I'm like, wow, this is 144 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,600 a young age where it's just all it is is teaching you how to be 145 00:09:50,879 --> 00:09:56,240 a smart ass or sarcastic or whatever. Now, some personalities pick up on 146 00:09:56,279 --> 00:09:58,159 it, some don't, but it is a tutorial on how to do it. 147 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,799 So I and I think with social media, the same thing, the 148 00:10:01,879 --> 00:10:03,440 pranks all that. So now you take that, well, how does any 149 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:09,159 parent control that? I don't know. And when it's middle school and it's 150 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,799 I mean, that's the wild West of hormones man, you know, and 151 00:10:11,919 --> 00:10:15,960 all of those group that she likes teaching too, well that's the thing. 152 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,159 I go, Well, you can always go back to the other school, 153 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,840 and she goes, no, I like teaching this group. I like working 154 00:10:20,879 --> 00:10:22,840 with this group. I go, okay, well, then are there good 155 00:10:22,919 --> 00:10:26,080 kids? Because there was one time where after a music war, all it 156 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,279 can take is one bad apple to can spoil. That's why. And that's 157 00:10:28,279 --> 00:10:31,440 something I had to sink in with me because all of a sudden, so 158 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,679 I don't looking for you to solve her problem. So, mister judgmental motherfucker 159 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,600 over there, okay, mister all of a sudden, get off my lawn 160 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,559 and let me tell you what the world I realized. I don't want to 161 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,960 be that guy. I don't. Then don't be I don't, but I 162 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:52,240 can't just like not acknowledge acknowledge the fact that there is a lot of just 163 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:56,000 I mean, two plus two should not equal five, and there's a lot 164 00:10:56,039 --> 00:11:00,480 of that going on, like what and double knowledge? Other thing of what? 165 00:11:00,639 --> 00:11:05,600 Give me an example of something that bothers you along the lines of two 166 00:11:05,639 --> 00:11:07,919 plus two equals five. Your cat, your kid identifies as a cat, 167 00:11:09,039 --> 00:11:11,159 needs a litter box in school to go to the bathroom. Okay, where 168 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,720 is that happening. It's happening all over the country. Where is it happening? 169 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,399 I don't want to know all over the country. I think it happened 170 00:11:18,399 --> 00:11:22,120 at Gates if I'm not mistaken. I also know wait, wait a second, 171 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:30,200 hold on a second, please that somebody's gotta I know it's happened locally 172 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,399 Gates, but I don't know. But like, wait, I know that's 173 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,240 happened. There are kids. We think that there's gonna be kids that would 174 00:11:37,519 --> 00:11:43,360 identify irondoquoit. Don't Webster? Would it be Webster? Does Webster have a 175 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,919 bunch of pussies? I don't think so. I don't think so. That's 176 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,000 what I'm saying by pussy cat is what I mean. There is no fucking 177 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:54,679 way that they have allowed a child. There is no way. And this 178 00:11:54,840 --> 00:12:00,799 is the stuff that I don't understand why you're you're believing that. Who's telling 179 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:05,399 it to you? I've read about it where in the daily mail and you 180 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,440 read it in like in wait, so it's not true. I don't think 181 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,039 so. And I'm gonna tell you what, because there's no way that we 182 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:18,159 could have a human being going in a litter box out in the public with 183 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,759 health. It's a health problem. I mean, I get it. A 184 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,679 litter box. You know, it takes care of stuff. Unless they're doing 185 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,840 it, they're putting it in the bathroom somewhere. I've never heard of this. 186 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,360 I've never heard of this, and I'm just giving you an example. 187 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:37,679 I know you're giving me example, but here's my thing. Why the fuck 188 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:43,200 do you give two shits hang on that that's happening if it were happening, 189 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:48,080 because I will tell you that, I don't think it's happening. I don't 190 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:52,399 think it's widespread. I think that's an isolated one place. Maybe you don't 191 00:12:52,399 --> 00:12:56,879 want the tolerance or whatever, and we need to conform by these rules in 192 00:12:56,919 --> 00:13:01,320 this thing. Who gives a shit? I seriously, I would laugh my 193 00:13:01,399 --> 00:13:05,639 ass off. I would be like, you know what, I would tell 194 00:13:05,639 --> 00:13:09,480 my kids to ship and I would have done bombs away in the We'll take 195 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:13,360 advantage of that, okay, man, what they take the shape of their 196 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:18,759 containers. No, they will do whatever is allowed. Yes, but they'll 197 00:13:18,919 --> 00:13:20,559 to do. But I think which is pushing the boundary. But I think 198 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,679 this stuff gets silly. I think the the idea that it would be allowed 199 00:13:24,759 --> 00:13:30,240 is silly. Uh. But I also think that if I wouldn't, I 200 00:13:30,279 --> 00:13:33,840 wouldn't. I wouldn't even go fighting it. I would tell my kids, 201 00:13:33,879 --> 00:13:37,120 you're not a cat. We don't act like that in this house. You're 202 00:13:37,159 --> 00:13:39,600 a human being. You're intelligent. I want you to you gotta go to 203 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,919 the back. I would have those conversations with my kids. But I'm not 204 00:13:41,919 --> 00:13:45,799 going to tell somebody else how to live or how to do their thing. 205 00:13:45,879 --> 00:13:50,039 I look at it this way. Life can be hard enough. Why do 206 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,480 you need me to shit on you for anything? As long as the fact 207 00:13:54,519 --> 00:14:01,639 that your kid ships in the litter boxs no bare trying on my life whatsoever. 208 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:05,679 It really doesn't. What you're saying is we're tolerating this stuff, and 209 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,279 it's a slippery slope, and down we go, and on and on. 210 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,519 And I'm going to say, I don't think so. I don't think it's 211 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,480 that bad. I think that these things are done. I feel like they're 212 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,039 distractions. I think they are things for people to get upset about that have 213 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:22,879 absolutely no bearing on your life, and you'd be better off finding something else 214 00:14:22,919 --> 00:14:24,840 to focus with. The age group that I'm talking about, the age group 215 00:14:24,879 --> 00:14:28,279 that my wife has to deal with, is the same age group and a 216 00:14:28,279 --> 00:14:33,159 little bit older. Are the same Kia boys that get around. Okay, 217 00:14:33,279 --> 00:14:37,159 one gentleman ended up dead in Gates last year, was carjacked. All right, 218 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,720 but hold on, you're jumping. You're jumping, but you're jumping. 219 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:45,159 You're jumping. Jump. You're jumping from allowing a kid to be a cat 220 00:14:45,399 --> 00:14:48,080 to someone stealing a thing. So what are you saying the lack of parenting? 221 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,440 Yes, well, I would think the kid who's got the cat and 222 00:14:52,519 --> 00:14:56,320 the parent that pushes for the kid to have has more parental concern. And 223 00:14:56,399 --> 00:15:01,440 I'm not worried about cat boys stealing the Kia. So that's why I thinking 224 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,320 you're you're sort of talking apples and oranges in a way, because those parents 225 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,600 are involved. If you're pushing to allow the school to have my kids shit 226 00:15:09,639 --> 00:15:13,639 in a box, those parents are involved, Daddy, they're involved. But 227 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:18,200 that's just terrible parenting. Okay, in your opinion to say that, in 228 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,080 your opinion, it's terrible parenting. But it doesn't mean those kids are going 229 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,840 to steal the car. Do you see what I'm saying. They're probably home 230 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,879 letting the kid lick itself. Hey, did you lick your pause after dinner? 231 00:15:28,759 --> 00:15:33,440 That's my point. You're saying that, So you're saying there's a lack 232 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:37,679 of parenting. Whether it's bad or it doesn't, it's not existent, right, 233 00:15:37,879 --> 00:15:41,759 But you got to follow you got to follow the the logic on this, 234 00:15:41,879 --> 00:15:46,519 because it's not fair to say that the parent that allows their kid to 235 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:52,080 identify as a cat is bad parenting. I would say it's not. It's 236 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:56,919 not typical parenting. It's not something I would do. But I don't care. 237 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,720 Keep your cat on the leash over there, fine, you know what 238 00:16:00,759 --> 00:16:03,679 I mean? But that cat eventually, yes, it's gonna grow up, 239 00:16:03,879 --> 00:16:07,360 right and may say and may grow out of a stage where they do that. 240 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,840 Because I've had kids and you haven't, and that sounds like I'm weaponizing 241 00:16:11,879 --> 00:16:15,919 all that. What I'm gonna say to you is they go through phases. 242 00:16:17,639 --> 00:16:22,320 Jordan wore a red wing satin jacket that was too big for him for like 243 00:16:22,399 --> 00:16:25,799 two years, would never take the thing off and on in summer, wore 244 00:16:25,799 --> 00:16:27,840 it all the time. All of a sudden, just one day, it's 245 00:16:27,879 --> 00:16:30,639 over. I never said, don't wear that. It's a filthy jacket. 246 00:16:30,799 --> 00:16:33,080 Why do you always wear it? I just let it go. I didn't 247 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:37,039 care because he's a kid. It's what made him feel, I don't know, 248 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:41,919 confident, whatever, that's great. No, right, it doesn't mean 249 00:16:41,039 --> 00:16:44,799 is that bad parenting? If the kid do you see what I'm saying, 250 00:16:44,799 --> 00:16:45,840 Like, if the kid decided to go as a cat, is that bad? 251 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:51,159 No? I don't care, that's fine. Jamison was all into his 252 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,519 hair. He wanted to do rags and he wanted this, and people would 253 00:16:53,519 --> 00:16:56,879 tell you that that's cultural appropriation. You shouldn't allow it, you shouldn't do 254 00:16:56,919 --> 00:17:02,039 this. To me, it was he really loved rappers and really wanted to 255 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:07,640 identify with those guys who didn't growing up have some kind of something they identified 256 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,640 with. Is it bad parenting to let your kid walk around in a do 257 00:17:10,759 --> 00:17:12,839 rag when he's white? Some people would say, yes, I did it 258 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:17,519 anyway. I let it go on because I knew it wasn't gonna last and 259 00:17:17,559 --> 00:17:19,759 eventually it would phase out. So why am I gonna yell at you and 260 00:17:19,799 --> 00:17:23,599 yell at you and shame you for something for people you look up to who 261 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,640 you idolize and think are really cool, and go, that's bullshit. That's 262 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:33,240 how parents to me, that's bad. I know what you're saying. That's 263 00:17:33,279 --> 00:17:37,559 I just think there's a world of difference between wearing clothes like I grew up 264 00:17:37,559 --> 00:17:41,200 in the grunge grow yes, and I hear it where kids were like not 265 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,920 bathing on purpose for three or four days in my generation, which I thought 266 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,759 was ridiculous then. And I was a guy who loved those bands. But 267 00:17:48,799 --> 00:17:51,240 I'm like, I'm still taking a shower, okay, But you dressed in 268 00:17:51,319 --> 00:17:53,359 cords and parents were like, okay, or you had a bowl cut, 269 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,680 right, and it looked ridiculous. Looking back, everybody looked like was it 270 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,319 who which one was? The curly the priest duges, they had the bolt 271 00:18:00,319 --> 00:18:03,559 cut. Yeah, my father, you look ridiculous, but hey, go 272 00:18:03,559 --> 00:18:04,839 ahead, do that right, And then I realized, oh my gosh, 273 00:18:04,839 --> 00:18:07,880 okay, you grow out of it. That's fine. Out of it. 274 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,319 But that's that's there's a world of difference between that and having the world have 275 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:17,680 to cater to your needs because you ident because you're doing something that sounds unnatural. 276 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,880 Yes, I will say it doesn't sound like a jerk. No, 277 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:26,359 we're having a I think a great discussion helps and I'm fully enjoying it. 278 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,079 Okay, I mean that because I have to get back to the Kyla Murray 279 00:18:29,079 --> 00:18:30,640 in a second. I think it's I think it's a discussion. But I 280 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:41,359 would say so there's many people listening and always that could are practically screaming how 281 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:45,640 much they agree with you and love that. And I would say that I 282 00:18:45,759 --> 00:18:49,799 understand what you're saying, that what the world is trying to do, and 283 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,920 this is where the Pendent is make everybody feel included. It is a strange 284 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,119 world where you have to declare your sexuality at the door. I'm gay, 285 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:03,400 I'm straight, I'm I'm this, I'm whatever, and you, well, 286 00:19:03,599 --> 00:19:07,680 I think we do. I mean how many times behind our regular I think 287 00:19:06,759 --> 00:19:10,000 that you know what I mean, like, we've all, we've all, 288 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:14,039 we've all done that because it's come to a world of that and that we 289 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:18,200 thought. I can tell you, as a guy who had an experience at 290 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:22,759 seven years old and then found out what gay was, I don't want anybody 291 00:19:22,799 --> 00:19:27,839 to know what had happened to me because I knew I wasn't I my one 292 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:33,119 of my biggest weaknesses in life was women. I think, uh so, 293 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,839 No, I'm just saying, and I'm just saying, like I do, 294 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:41,240 I really enjoy women. I like women. I like women. I like 295 00:19:41,279 --> 00:19:45,640 women, I like from Scooby Do. I like the femininity, and I 296 00:19:45,759 --> 00:19:48,079 like the way they smell and I love them make them laugh. I love 297 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:53,440 women. I can't help that's me somebody else meaning love guy whatever. But 298 00:19:55,319 --> 00:20:00,680 when we start the problem is we for so long made every be feel bad. 299 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,200 There was nothing worse than being gay, as I said, right in 300 00:20:03,279 --> 00:20:07,799 a locker room. And I remember kids that I went to school with, 301 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,759 you know, And I can remember one kid's last name. I don't think 302 00:20:11,759 --> 00:20:18,519 he I think he's passed, but his last name was Mallarchuck. And I, 303 00:20:18,839 --> 00:20:22,799 you know, people, he was effeminate. I don't know if he 304 00:20:22,839 --> 00:20:26,480 ever was or wasn't, but he's very effeminate, feathered his hair and all 305 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:27,680 this, had his comb in the back pocket. And we used and I 306 00:20:27,759 --> 00:20:34,720 used to Malarchuck became a different name. You understand what I'm saying. Okay, 307 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,240 but so for so long we took somebody and go don't tell me, 308 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,519 because we're all going to make you feel like a piece of shit. Well 309 00:20:41,559 --> 00:20:44,839 now we're trying to go. Hang on a second. That's not right. 310 00:20:45,319 --> 00:20:48,680 That's not the right way. And maybe we've gone too far to your point, 311 00:20:48,759 --> 00:20:51,200 Maybe we have. I don't know. I don't have kids involved me. 312 00:20:51,279 --> 00:20:55,319 I think often this correction, right, But I mean I don't know 313 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,720 these stories though. And this is where I think your wife is saying, 314 00:20:59,079 --> 00:21:02,599 where like the kid litter box. Don't you think that would have been bigger 315 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:07,599 news? Wouldn't that have made news like I would think one recently heard about 316 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,240 somebody there's there was a lawsuit. Let me just back track a little bit. 317 00:21:11,279 --> 00:21:14,039 There was a lawsuit file by this kid's parent because they would not at 318 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:18,880 the school would not allow the kid to identify as a cat. I had 319 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:23,160 also heard other instances, okay, heard about instances of cats, the cats, 320 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,839 people young people identifying as cats and litter boxes. Okay, okay, 321 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:33,759 okay, Well, well I don't think the school could allow it because I 322 00:21:33,759 --> 00:21:37,880 don't think you could have feces out like that human feces. I just can't 323 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,960 and the smell and who has to change the litter box, and we can't 324 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,160 ask our janitor just you know what I mean. We're not we're not a 325 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:48,119 veterinary. I see where my wife is, like I open up a box 326 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,480 and then you just go off. Yes, yes, I'll tell you what 327 00:21:52,519 --> 00:21:56,079 the problem is. Yes, you've turned it. You turn that guy, 328 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:57,680 but you are. But here's the thing to bring it back to the Klamari. 329 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:02,519 Yes, I would you like me to tell you Tuesday that the Kalamari 330 00:22:02,599 --> 00:22:06,240 sucked? You ate at all? I go, yeah, because it still 331 00:22:06,279 --> 00:22:10,119 is. It tasted decent, but it wasn't Calamari the way I would expect 332 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,039 at an Italian restaurant. I go, I have the right to say that. 333 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,759 My point is, do I not have the right to express myself anytime? 334 00:22:15,799 --> 00:22:18,119 And I have an idea in my head? You don't? You do? 335 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,480 You have the right? That is true. She also has the right 336 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,559 to not want to have to listen to it. That's the other side, 337 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,799 like you just calm, calm, but that's not what you do. I 338 00:22:27,799 --> 00:22:30,680 guarantee it. I wish I had. I wish there was video somewhere, 339 00:22:32,039 --> 00:22:37,400 like somebody Alex wrote me saying that there we should do get get people to 340 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:42,559 have their first date on the podcast, have it catered and miked, and 341 00:22:42,599 --> 00:22:45,960 then like I'll be the waiter and the host and the whole thing, and 342 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:51,039 then hold one of them back and find out if there will be a second 343 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,359 date kind of thing. Okay, right, so you would have cameras there. 344 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,920 Well, my point with you is I think that you think you say 345 00:22:57,559 --> 00:23:02,680 Calamari sucks, I think it would be. You know, I worked in 346 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,519 an Italian restaurant, and let me tell you something. I know when this 347 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,480 is it, and I would expect more from a restaurant like this. I 348 00:23:08,559 --> 00:23:14,440 come to Red Lobster, I watch the calamar. I know it wasn't Red 349 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,359 Lobster. I know it wasn't. I know it wasn't. You said Italian. 350 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,400 That's why I don't like it. I don't like to go to except 351 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,359 Texas Roadhouse that's actually pretty good. I'm not I'm not, I'm not all. 352 00:23:25,319 --> 00:23:27,519 But my point is, I think you do that because we never see 353 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:32,200 how we are. We never see how we are. We just don't. 354 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,400 You'll, so we think we think we're doing one thing, and maybe you 355 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,680 were coming off the other way, and you do lately come off with a 356 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,480 lot of heat. You come with heat. You come with heat. Your 357 00:23:41,519 --> 00:23:47,359 frustration level is you're up to And that's where I go, stop watching the 358 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,519 news, take a breath. I've actually like tried stopping. You will watch 359 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,319 because you don't. You go on these searches on YouTube and you stay up 360 00:23:55,319 --> 00:23:57,400 to all hours and you're listening. And I don't think anybody you're listening to 361 00:23:57,559 --> 00:24:03,000 is wrong. It's there opinion. They're smart guys, you're you're you're listening 362 00:24:03,079 --> 00:24:04,960 to smart people. Just form your own opinion on it. To me, 363 00:24:06,519 --> 00:24:08,559 I remember a guy, Yeah, they're trying to be entertaining. I remember, 364 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,640 yeah, I know, and they're looking for clicks. Yes. I 365 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,519 remember a guy named Bill Moran who had a son named Jordan Moran. And 366 00:24:14,599 --> 00:24:17,480 Jordan Moran wanted to be a jag lawyer at some point in his life. 367 00:24:17,839 --> 00:24:21,720 And you once told Tommy and I, like before show, I said, 368 00:24:21,759 --> 00:24:25,279 Jordan, you needed something that that kids do. Jordan, is that the 369 00:24:25,319 --> 00:24:27,759 move a Jaguar lawyer would make? And I want to ask the question, 370 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:34,200 Yeah, are these the moves that like successful people make. I would say, 371 00:24:34,319 --> 00:24:38,480 I would say, no, you're stealing cars. You know what I'm 372 00:24:38,599 --> 00:24:44,759 allowing because I see these things as two different things. I think if you're 373 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,319 identifying as a cat, but it's all under the same Dan burrella umbrella, 374 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,880 I guess it is. I know that. But to me, there are 375 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,240 two different things kids that are stealing. I would like to see them take 376 00:24:55,279 --> 00:24:59,880 their powers for adventure and intelligence, because it takes a little bit of intelligence 377 00:25:00,039 --> 00:25:02,359 figure out how to get in the car and all this other stuff, even 378 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,960 if it's basically bait breaking the window. But I like to see them take 379 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:11,279 those powers and put it towards something constructive. There's something there, potential there. 380 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:12,839 Well, there's potential there, But can we can we get you to 381 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:18,240 do something? Can we use your powers for good? Right? And somebody 382 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,480 needs? But it's too much and so you get caught up in life and 383 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,519 it's becomes you're a hamster on a wheel. Then you gotta step off and 384 00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:29,920 look at it. I would say to the person who's letting their kid be 385 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,200 a cat, I hope it's a phase. If they stayed me in a 386 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,640 cat, Okay, maybe they'll find maybe they'll find happiness. Who gives a 387 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,839 shit. It doesn't bother me because I will tell you, like, majority 388 00:25:41,839 --> 00:25:45,440 of kids are not dressing up. Oh I no, majority of kids yes, 389 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,519 that's what I'm saying, so we don't have to worry about the whole 390 00:25:48,519 --> 00:25:51,200 world going. But my whole thing is, like we might went back back 391 00:25:51,279 --> 00:25:55,319 before like five minutes, that one rotten apple can ruin the whole by Well, 392 00:25:55,319 --> 00:25:57,559 if you get a shitty kid acting out, it takes away from class, 393 00:25:57,599 --> 00:26:02,759 then what else is gonna is gonna come from? This builds and it 394 00:26:02,799 --> 00:26:07,359 builds from the cat from the flitter box. It builds and builds. To 395 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:12,640 say, it builds a builds. Now I identify as a shark, right 396 00:26:12,799 --> 00:26:18,000 or I as a as a boat. That's great, you know, that's 397 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,960 great. So let somebody who identifies as I love to do homework. I'm 398 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,200 a shark. Let somebody that's not the way it's gonna go. But see 399 00:26:26,279 --> 00:26:29,880 you take this said shark swim in schools, don't they they go to school. 400 00:26:30,279 --> 00:26:33,960 Yeah, I'm just saying that I think you go like a step too 401 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,000 far, and there's gonna be a point where you can't and you're gonna have 402 00:26:37,039 --> 00:26:41,240 to say to the parent of the kid who wants to shit in the litter 403 00:26:41,319 --> 00:26:45,200 box, he can identify as a cat, you just can't shit in the 404 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,519 little box here. Want and be a cat every day. It's a little 405 00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:52,079 distracting, but we'll work around it and just keep the litter box at home 406 00:26:52,319 --> 00:26:56,160 or homeschool the kid. That is your choice, right, I just don't 407 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:03,640 I haven't heard these things, and I I here's what I don't like. 408 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,200 I don't like seeing it get all worked up over it. Well it is, 409 00:27:07,519 --> 00:27:11,119 but I think that I think there's some truth to it with you, 410 00:27:11,599 --> 00:27:15,759 and well, I really don't like when my wife is coming home telling me 411 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:22,400 that her coworkers don't help the situation, and then I have then she's got 412 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,000 to come home and I have to hear. And I care about my wife. 413 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,000 I go, you want me to handle it? No, I don't 414 00:27:27,039 --> 00:27:30,440 need you to fight my battles for me. This is exactly right. All 415 00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:33,440 day I'm like, okay, so what do I do? Listen? I 416 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,880 know, just listen and don't do the uh huh uh huh. Just listen, 417 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:42,160 be engaged and say and respond with things like I should have been a 418 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:47,240 marriage counselor oh we're great only because I failed. No, I'm just saying 419 00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:49,079 like it's good stuff. All I would say is go, yeah, I 420 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,720 hear you, man, that sounds like it sucks. Well that would be 421 00:27:52,759 --> 00:27:56,920 frustrating, you know, that sort of thing. So it's it's empathy because 422 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,880 she's not looking for a solution. She was looking for a solution. She'll 423 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,720 do it on our own, smart need you. She just wants she just 424 00:28:03,759 --> 00:28:07,720 wants that, just to know that you're there, Danny, you take it 425 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,640 all, so sure, Well that's it. I'm going. I'm going all 426 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,519 butch Barillo and I will sove it all. That's what you do, I 427 00:28:15,599 --> 00:28:19,200 see it, all right, speaking of thirty years ago. You know, 428 00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:22,680 I love you. Yeah, I know, I know. I am. 429 00:28:22,839 --> 00:28:29,359 Something happened in the news locally, and I'm going to play the clip and 430 00:28:29,839 --> 00:28:33,359 I have some very different thoughts, Okay, very different thoughts, and we'll 431 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,079 see if you agree. All right, maybe you won't if you identify as 432 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:44,440 a cat. We popped. We we hear a billified Podcasts apologize somebody half 433 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:52,079 of Tamberillo for insulting you in your family. I think Jackson used to once 434 00:28:52,119 --> 00:28:53,920 told me that he used to pee in the little box downstairs because you want 435 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,720 to go upstairs to go to the bathroom. But that's a genius though. 436 00:28:56,759 --> 00:29:00,400 That's actually not a genius. It is bitch when it happened. I go, 437 00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:03,799 I think I said, you're not a cat. Get upstairs right there? 438 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,279 You go. I want to miss the show, Dad cross the show 439 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,119 we'll take. I used to take a leak out the back door if I 440 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,599 didn't want to go upstairs. I used to do Yeah, I did stuff 441 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,279 like that. That finally goes, why do we have it would freeze? 442 00:29:18,839 --> 00:29:23,039 Why don't we have yellow ice. We'll take a moment, But first, 443 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,079 Connors and Ferris have a very easy phone number to remember. It's two six 444 00:29:27,119 --> 00:29:32,319 to two COMP. 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I remember these guys 479 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,440 from Atlanta right all for one. I don't know. I have no idea, 480 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:15,079 because they sang during the World Series. They sang okay and with them 481 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:21,319 the Home of the Braves, and then the Yankees went and annihilated them. 482 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,480 That's how proud you were, to said, I was very proud. I 483 00:32:24,599 --> 00:32:30,400 bring this up because something in the news and the world has changed. As 484 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,799 Danny has pointed out, we try to do we try to be more tolerant 485 00:32:34,839 --> 00:32:37,880 of certain things. But I think some things have changed for the good. 486 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:44,359 And I think that there's almost if you look for anything, you're gonna find 487 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:50,599 it, and nowadays you can find I think that's why our ability to communicate 488 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,880 sometimes isn't as good, because whatever you want to believe, you're going to 489 00:32:53,960 --> 00:33:00,000 find something to support that, which, therefore men makes you correct. Right, 490 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:05,200 And when we feel right, we feel emboldened. And that's where we 491 00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:09,079 run into certain things, like you know, just that doesn't work. Here 492 00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:15,480 is a piece from News ten NBC that ran over the weekend, the NBC 493 00:33:15,599 --> 00:33:20,119 affiliate in the Greater Rochester area. Crazy. That's this is a small town 494 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,920 that shouldn't be happening. A search is underway for a suspicious man approaching girls 495 00:33:24,039 --> 00:33:28,880 in the town of Ogden. Ogden police say they received reports that a man 496 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:34,160 driving an SUV was following teenage girls around town Wednesday night. News NBC's Brought 497 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,680 Better was in Ogden today and all right, so this so teenage girls being 498 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:42,119 followed around Ogden and they were talking to some people and you'll hear a dad 499 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,000 of a young girl. Now, these are teenage girls, and this is 500 00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:49,720 the story. Joins us in studio with the latest on the investigation, Brett, 501 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,880 this is certainly disturbed. Yeah, Eric had out authority say the man 502 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:59,039 driving the suv was caught on camera and two locations around Ogden and spencer Port 503 00:33:59,079 --> 00:34:02,960 Wednesday night and want neighbors to be vigilant about their surroundings until they can track 504 00:34:04,039 --> 00:34:08,400 him down. Take a close look at these photos. Ogden Police Chief Travis 505 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:14,239 Gray says the driver of this orange Nissan Rogue was the man following teenage girls 506 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,119 around town around four timeout. Yes, if you were going to chase teenage 507 00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:22,880 girls, would you be driving an orange car because that's easily identifiable. Yeah, 508 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:27,159 it's an orange ish it's orange gold. Yeah, okay, the red 509 00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:30,760 burnt No, I love that color. Okay, so it is a common 510 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,079 call. It's a more say orange, I don't I didn't really see it 511 00:34:35,079 --> 00:34:39,679 as more of a reddish reddish orange. Continue. But yeah, the other 512 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:45,000 question is are the teen's honor and Ogden. I'm just saying you got a 513 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:50,000 lot of options if you can do this Wednesday night. I mean, as 514 00:34:50,079 --> 00:34:52,280 a dad, as a father, as a parent, it's always saying vigilant, 515 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,360 knowing what's going on around me. Dan Bash and his family were heading 516 00:34:55,400 --> 00:35:00,039 out for a walk along Union and Canal Streets and Spencer, one of the 517 00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:05,119 two places police say the vehicle was caught on camera. Bat says he saw 518 00:35:05,159 --> 00:35:08,000 the posts about the suspicious car on social media and it's why he says, 519 00:35:08,039 --> 00:35:12,639 it's always a good idea to keep an eye out on everything going on around 520 00:35:12,679 --> 00:35:15,199 you, no matter where you are. Day vigilant, stay prepared, know 521 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,920 what our surroundings are. No, let's be ready for the worst, folks 522 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,840 us and keep an eye out for things that are going on. After receiving 523 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:28,119 the photos, investigators say they've been able to identify the suv and the driver, 524 00:35:28,599 --> 00:35:31,239 an African American man in his mid twenties with long curly hair, that 525 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:36,760 have been unable to find him. The suv was also spotted further south along 526 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:44,679 Union Street. And who's wearing a Jerry curl nowadays? Direct James. He's 527 00:35:44,679 --> 00:35:52,039 got a big Jase Rick James has he lived in the Buffalo area in west 528 00:35:52,119 --> 00:35:57,360 Side Drive. Chief Gray says that officers received reports that the man approached at 529 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,159 least two teenage girls rolling down his into to speak with him before driving off 530 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,480 reasons why so nothing happened. I'm sorry, Charlie Murphy was an accident. 531 00:36:05,559 --> 00:36:08,360 I have too much fun, but nothing happened. Appearance, like Jody Pellegrino 532 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:13,119 says, she never takes her eye of her baby girl. I don't let 533 00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:15,679 her out of my eyesight. It's a crazy world out there. Just know 534 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:20,320 where they are. This isn't thirty years ago where you could let your kids 535 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:28,440 wanderinglessly. Unfortunately, I disagree with that statement. One I think that is 536 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:34,159 I I totally don't disagree with that. Okay, oh didn't. Police are 537 00:36:34,199 --> 00:36:37,679 asking anyone with information about the vehicle or the driver to contact the department at 538 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:42,480 six one seven six one three to one or call nine one one. If 539 00:36:42,519 --> 00:36:45,400 you see the suv, Eric Keta and Bred, you're the suv with the 540 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,480 black dude driving, Yes, if you see him, do not approach him. 541 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:54,360 He could be doing that thing. Well okay, but but so the 542 00:36:54,440 --> 00:37:00,159 news, the police were out there. This woman says at the end of 543 00:37:00,199 --> 00:37:01,960 it, you can't let your kids wander. It's not thirty years ago. 544 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,679 Nineteen ninety four was thirty years ago. Great year, bro One of the 545 00:37:07,679 --> 00:37:13,400 worst things to happen in Monroe County happened. Oh yeah, Kayle and Poulton. 546 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,320 I was at Fisher, I had graduated. I was waiting for my 547 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:21,920 apartment to be ready, and I remember the helicopters flying above because they were 548 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,679 in East Rochester and they were looking and it turned out to be Mark Christie 549 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:29,840 Kilder right and let me so here would be my thing. I know somebody 550 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:36,159 was close to him too. I think that it's very very naive to say 551 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,400 that it's not what it was thirty years ago. No, it's I I 552 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:46,159 would argue, we are safer today because we've got more cameras and more people 553 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:52,440 aware. When I was a kid, you just left. You didn't have 554 00:37:52,519 --> 00:37:55,119 cell phones to track, you didn't have Life three sixty that you could put 555 00:37:55,159 --> 00:37:59,480 on to follow your kids and make sure they're not speeding or anything. You 556 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:05,000 just left and shit happened. I mean, right, And most of the 557 00:38:05,079 --> 00:38:08,960 time, the bad stuff, the really really horrible life altering things that would 558 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:15,239 happen to people, happened from people your parents trusted. Right. Look at 559 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,440 the Catholic Church just as an example. I'm not picking I'm just saying, 560 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,800 like that happened. There were young boys who were here in Rochester. That 561 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,239 when they opened it up and said the statute of limitations are over and we're 562 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,719 gonna get you're gonna get money or whatever. The suing they were able to 563 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:37,280 come forward and identified priests by name, and other people came forward and goes, 564 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,880 yeah, that happened to me too. But that was who did your 565 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:44,599 parents trust if you were Catholic, the priests, right the priest or the 566 00:38:44,639 --> 00:38:47,360 loved ones. Like there's a kid, Stephen Stainer. Stephen Stanner got kidnapped. 567 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:52,920 It was stranger abduction by somebody who the family trusted, had them over 568 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,039 to dinner a couple of times. I mean the whole thing, and it 569 00:38:55,079 --> 00:38:59,119 was a number of years. He was gone from the age seven to fifteen. 570 00:39:00,159 --> 00:39:04,079 I'm just so when we say things like, oh, thirty years ago, 571 00:39:04,119 --> 00:39:06,920 I go cut cut it. First of all, that to me is 572 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:12,440 the dumbest thing, because you could let your kid we don't anymore, which 573 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,480 I'm not sure that's a good thing if you want to go back to your 574 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,199 kids paying in the litter box, things that bother you. I feel like 575 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,239 we're too on top too much. There's not enough ability to skin your knee 576 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,519 and learn from it, right, by that meaning like, you know you're 577 00:39:25,599 --> 00:39:30,280 riding or interact with adults who aren't your parents. You know, I don't 578 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,199 need somebody always around. I get you out of the house, get some 579 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:37,920 fresh air, I mean, get outside and play. What eah? So 580 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,039 two things. I want to defend the woman a little bit here. Sure, 581 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:45,800 for this reason, I think we are wired to believe that life was 582 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:50,840 better thirty years ago. It wasn't. Because here's the thing. They're Oh 583 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,440 gosh, I wish I could pull it up somebody on Twitter about a year 584 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,679 ago, and I remember this, and I wish i'd saved it. Maybe 585 00:39:55,679 --> 00:39:58,679 I did, but I have to go back and find it. Okay, 586 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,760 what is it? They posted a a bunch of newspaper articles every twenty five 587 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:06,199 years saying life was better twenty five years of course, right, Oh, 588 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,599 I think it's I think it's just it's I don't wanna call it recency bias, 589 00:40:08,679 --> 00:40:10,760 but I think, well, yeah, it is recently bias, because 590 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:15,719 now you hear about more things. See that life was better then, but 591 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:20,079 we hear about more things, which, to my point is it's safety. 592 00:40:20,599 --> 00:40:24,159 Your little neighborhood has the neighborhood, the neighbor's app or whatever it is. 593 00:40:24,519 --> 00:40:29,159 You find out about everything. You find out. There's a coyote that wandered 594 00:40:29,159 --> 00:40:31,599 through somebody's yard and Bob caught it on his trail cam. And keep your 595 00:40:31,679 --> 00:40:36,719 cats inside. Whatn't happened thirty years ago. That wasn't happening. We didn't 596 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,519 have the technology. So now, guess what, Your kid that identifies as 597 00:40:39,519 --> 00:40:43,519 a cat won't be attacked by a coyote. Danny, how about that? 598 00:40:43,679 --> 00:40:46,239 But do you understand what I'm saying? Like there's so much information now and 599 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:52,599 so much stuff that maybe it feels like we live in a scarier place because 600 00:40:52,599 --> 00:40:57,800 we hear about it all. But I mean we don't. The shit was 601 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,199 going on for years. Just didn't hear about it, So we didn't hear 602 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:06,920 about it enough. And that's where and now you're also training your kids. 603 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,159 You're teaching your kids there's an effort. Don't go to strangers, don't talk 604 00:41:09,199 --> 00:41:14,199 to strangers. All the online stuff. That's where you probably got a better 605 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,599 chance of having your kid learn away is by someone posing to be somebody. 606 00:41:17,639 --> 00:41:22,559 I mean, there was all TV show. Chris Hansen got a whole career 607 00:41:22,639 --> 00:41:25,320 out of it until he got in trouble for something but I'm just saying, 608 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:31,920 like all that stuff, and so we're able to stop the real, the 609 00:41:32,039 --> 00:41:37,559 really shitty, horrible things that have always gone on. We just didn't know 610 00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:39,480 about it because we lived in a bubble. I mean, think about I 611 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,599 think of the number of kids you would hear about a kid being snatched or 612 00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:46,239 something. I didn't know anyone personally that was snatched. But I mean, 613 00:41:46,679 --> 00:41:52,400 you sacrifice a few millions of kids nothing happened to, is my point. 614 00:41:52,599 --> 00:41:54,079 Millions of kids that nothing happened to. And I think, when we start 615 00:41:54,159 --> 00:41:59,400 living paranoid and we're always pointing at things, what an awful way to live 616 00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:01,920 it is area, It is an awful way to live. I think it's 617 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:06,639 also a young parents way to live. Sometimes. Here's what I mean by 618 00:42:06,639 --> 00:42:08,599 that. I work with my brother. A lot of the business we do 619 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,719 is on the phone. One day I decide I'm gonna go take a walk 620 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,480 and kill two birds with one stone. It was a beautiful day over there 621 00:42:15,559 --> 00:42:19,840 was last summer actually right and in Might. There's a lot of families in 622 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,880 my neighborhood. So I go to take a walk right around two o'clock two 623 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,400 thirty, when the buses are getting out I'm oblivious to any of that stuff. 624 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:30,280 I don't have any kids. So all these parents are all coming out. 625 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,559 Yeah, and these this bus is like stop at every like three houses 626 00:42:32,559 --> 00:42:36,559 and dropping kids off. But the parents are still coming out, and I 627 00:42:36,559 --> 00:42:37,679 go, holy cow, man, there's a ton of parents, moms, 628 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,440 and we're home and dads who were home even at the end of my driveway. 629 00:42:40,559 --> 00:42:43,840 Wait, so they're kids. And my brother goes, yeah, because 630 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,960 kids are getting abducted more and more nowadays. And that's and they're all paranoid. 631 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,719 They're probably looking at you. They could you're ready to pick one up. 632 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,320 I go, are you serious? And goes no, But yeah, 633 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,719 I go, what do you mean, because they probably think you're a weirdo. 634 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,599 I go, I'm just taking a walk. He goes, I'm breaking 635 00:42:57,599 --> 00:42:59,920 your balls. But the point is, though, is that that's why the 636 00:43:00,199 --> 00:43:02,199 I don't go dropping them off for driver. Let me let me, let 637 00:43:02,199 --> 00:43:07,000 me. Let me give you a different side of that, okay. I 638 00:43:07,599 --> 00:43:12,159 There are way more remote jobs now than ever before. People can work from 639 00:43:12,159 --> 00:43:15,960 home. And one of the great things, and one of the great joys 640 00:43:15,519 --> 00:43:20,679 that is just a short minute is the kids getting on and off the bus. 641 00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:24,559 It really is and it's that sometimes if you're a parent, that you're 642 00:43:24,599 --> 00:43:30,840 like, this isn't gonna last forever, and you're there and you kinda try 643 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:35,400 to make those moments and make memories that I think that's great. I don't 644 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,480 know. It could also be to make sure that no one's messing with the 645 00:43:37,559 --> 00:43:42,599 kid. Absolutely. Uh. To your brother's point, more and more kids 646 00:43:42,599 --> 00:43:46,840 getting abducted, I haven't seen it. But then again, but but there's 647 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:51,119 such trafficking. Goes to your original point at the start of this segment where 648 00:43:51,159 --> 00:43:52,800 if you look for things, you're gonna find find them. And he is 649 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:57,360 a parent two young kids now, so all of a sudden, now he's 650 00:43:57,599 --> 00:44:01,000 I'm not saying he's more paranoid about it that I. We told Jordan all 651 00:44:01,039 --> 00:44:05,559 the time, like you know, all the boys, right, but Jordan 652 00:44:05,679 --> 00:44:08,400 was the one I think it sunk in because he used it. I remember 653 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:13,679 I told you I was at the zoo with just them and they were sixteen 654 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,320 months apart, and I'm going, all right, let's go, Fellow's time 655 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:20,440 to go. Get everybody in. The Jackson takes off and it was like 656 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,519 this tunnel with a gopher hole, so you could be a gopher and poke 657 00:44:22,559 --> 00:44:24,880 your head out. Well he went and sat in the middle of this thing, 658 00:44:25,639 --> 00:44:29,679 and I'm trying to leave and there was a woman that I worked with, 659 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:35,239 and Jordan's up on this ice, you know, faux ice sculpture, 660 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,440 playground thing, and I'm like trying to watch him and keep him there. 661 00:44:39,519 --> 00:44:42,920 Hey dad, watch me. I'm coming down the side and the other guy's 662 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,679 now hiding on me, so I can't leave. It's great parenting, yeah, 663 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:51,599 wonderful. So the woman had said, I'll watch, you know, 664 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,519 I'll I'll watch Jordan and you go get Jackson. So I start heading over 665 00:44:54,559 --> 00:44:58,159 to get Jackson, and all of a sudden they hear, hey, lady, 666 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,519 get away from me. You're scared. I've told this a million times, 667 00:45:00,639 --> 00:45:05,239 but that was Jordan. Well we all tell our kids, you know, 668 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,559 and we're more of us see something, say something. But now you've 669 00:45:07,599 --> 00:45:14,360 got ring doorbell cameras, trail cameras, cameras in your pocket, security cameras. 670 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,719 Everything's caught pretty much. So I'm like, no one's getting away with 671 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:22,760 stealing your kid. They're just not. And the ones you should fear are 672 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:27,000 the ones that are closest to you. Unfortunately that maybe you don't know that 673 00:45:27,079 --> 00:45:30,360 well, I mean it was you know, I have openly talked about being 674 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:36,159 molested at seven years old. It was by a babysitter who my parents trusted, 675 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,559 right, someone knew who they trusted. And I think that's the same 676 00:45:38,599 --> 00:45:42,920 thing here. But when we say things like, well, thirty years ago, 677 00:45:43,039 --> 00:45:45,920 I go, really, because one of the worst things happened thirty years 678 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,199 ago and I haven't heard about it happening today. And that's a great thing. 679 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,880 That's a great thing. And all this technology, it's a great thing. 680 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,880 But I would say this, follow your gut, right, You got 681 00:45:54,920 --> 00:46:00,960 to follow your gut. And I don't like the living paranoid. Something's always 682 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,760 gonna get me something. It's an ugly way to live. It's hard because 683 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,159 your stomach will never rest right. So I'm just going feel your when something 684 00:46:08,199 --> 00:46:12,960 doesn't feel right. If you're in a situation, you go, you should 685 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,559 probably get out of here. This isn't for me, then do it. 686 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,599 That's a smart thing. That's something you know what that comes out of the 687 00:46:17,639 --> 00:46:22,519 box instead of being homemade. That might be God, tell me they don't 688 00:46:22,559 --> 00:46:24,880 eat here again. I don't know, you know, have a conversation with 689 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:29,199 your kids. But I would say follow your gut. But I thought I 690 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,360 heard that lady ago. It's not thirty years ago. You can just let 691 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,639 your kids run outside, And I'm like, I'll give it. I think 692 00:46:35,639 --> 00:46:39,760 it's way safer to do that now than it ever was before. Yeah, 693 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:45,360 there's cameras everywhere. Yes, no one's getting away with the box click shows 694 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:50,400 up, box pirates right or most of the uh, most of the like 695 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,519 even the keywboys. We caught a lot of them, and they were on 696 00:46:52,639 --> 00:46:57,719 camera in certain places. I don't know, maybe big watch it you except 697 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,639 when you don't need when you actually need big. Right, Maybe I'm naive. 698 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:05,480 Maybe I live in a in thiseel bad for this dude, like cause 699 00:47:05,519 --> 00:47:07,000 he all of a sudden like if you drive, if you drive it, 700 00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:13,199 or a drogue or a burnt whatever the color is, who knows, right, 701 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,199 But but the thing is, like, who knows, maybe he did 702 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:21,119 have ill intent. But but here's the thing. The police put it out, 703 00:47:21,519 --> 00:47:23,920 your neighborhood is safe. But what happens is when we hear about it 704 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:28,039 on the news, what happens, Well, they're out everywhere trying to they're 705 00:47:28,079 --> 00:47:30,800 trying to snatch girls. And you know what that guy was a sex trafficker 706 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:36,519 and he was trying to maybe or maybe he was a guy going, hey, 707 00:47:36,559 --> 00:47:38,239 didn't I go to school with you girls? And maybe he was trying 708 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,880 to ask one of them out. I don't know, I have no idea. 709 00:47:42,159 --> 00:47:45,159 It sounds like they got him, and you know, be on the 710 00:47:45,199 --> 00:47:47,559 lookout. Okay, all right, let's not be paranoid, though, let's 711 00:47:47,599 --> 00:47:52,800 not not live that's all. By the way, you ever asked somebody about 712 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,119 the core of their car when you're not sure what it is? No, 713 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:58,880 So I did this yesterday at a Delta Sonic. This guy had this why 714 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,559 would you here's what color? Yeah? But this it was a gorgeous was 715 00:48:02,559 --> 00:48:06,920 like tiger eye gold. Okay, so I've never heard of this color. 716 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,280 This, This was an accurate It was beautiful. So I pull up alongside 717 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,760 him and he gives me this weird look. So I give the signal like 718 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,519 to roll down the window, which, by the way, is kind of 719 00:48:16,559 --> 00:48:21,920 obsolete now because now you have buttons and cars. So it looks like I'm 720 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,760 giving him the jo side, okay, and he's like, what, I'm 721 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:29,760 like, roll your window. So you don't want to roll down the window 722 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,599 to find out that because you're sitting against cargo. Hey, what color is 723 00:48:31,639 --> 00:48:35,840 that you, Larry David? Yeah, exactly, okay, but he was 724 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,800 cool. He was like, oh yeah, I go, I go, 725 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,679 I'll save up like sixty thousand dollars to buy a car like that. Oh 726 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:44,400 he goes, Oh yeah, I'm broke. I said that, but it 727 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:45,559 was a cool color. But I wanted to know what the color was, 728 00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:50,000 so I could ask, Hey, do you have a tiger gold? Tiger 729 00:48:50,039 --> 00:48:54,280 Eye gold cars? Next time I buy one? So cooler, cooler Chrysler 730 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:58,000 Dodge Jeep. I could ask car, do you have tiger eye gold? 731 00:48:58,199 --> 00:49:02,519 Cooler, cooler colored car? Yeah. Better safety today, better safety in 732 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,360 pretty much everything from your technology to your cars. Right, Yeah, So 733 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,920 what is a bad thing? We're more tolerant of kids stressing up a cat 734 00:49:12,039 --> 00:49:15,480 cats thirty years ago. I'm going to give you something that I think is 735 00:49:15,559 --> 00:49:22,039 bad that has happened. I think our ability to focus because of social media 736 00:49:23,079 --> 00:49:30,239 has significantly dropped our attention span. And I bring this up because there was 737 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:34,880 a two thousand and three study by the University of California, Irvine found the 738 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:39,920 average attention span in two thousand and three, the average attention span, how 739 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:45,280 long do you think it was? Now? None of them are are extraordinarily 740 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:51,039 long. But the average attention span, so you're saying above and below, 741 00:49:51,079 --> 00:49:54,119 but the average in two thousand and three eight seconds, not eight seconds, 742 00:49:54,559 --> 00:49:59,079 two minutes and thirty seconds. For like, are we talking about sub like 743 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,239 watching a segment on television or like, yeah, just your your attention? 744 00:50:02,519 --> 00:50:07,239 Like right, how long do they have to try to get you to suck 745 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:08,960 in so you would give something? Like maybe they tell us you have eight 746 00:50:09,039 --> 00:50:14,119 seconds? Eight seconds. In twenty twelve, the average attention span dropped to 747 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,480 seventy five seconds. And I don't know what they're doing to test these, 748 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:22,000 I have no idea, but they call it popcorn brain. Now. It 749 00:50:22,119 --> 00:50:30,280 was a term that this guy, David Levy coined in twenty eleven. The 750 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:35,960 term popcorn brain refers to a person's attention quickly jumping from thought to thought like 751 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,679 the kernels you know popping in popcorn? Right, yep, yeah, I 752 00:50:39,679 --> 00:50:45,719 can't do a pop sound from thought to thought. This so seventy five seconds 753 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:50,079 in twenty twelve. Now the attention span for most people is about how long 754 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,920 it was two minutes and thirty seconds. In three we go about a decade 755 00:50:54,960 --> 00:51:00,199 later to twenty twelve, the average attention span is seventy five seconds. We 756 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,679 go a little more than a decade, another twelve, so it was one 757 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,719 hundred and fifty seconds. Then it was seventy five seconds. So if we're 758 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,519 going by half lives here, it might be something like thirty seven seconds. 759 00:51:10,519 --> 00:51:15,000 You're not bad, forty seven seconds, according to the uc ser Irvine. 760 00:51:15,199 --> 00:51:21,280 Over time, this consistent demand for attention and the rapid switching between tasks can 761 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,239 lead to a feeling of mental restlessness for the brain, bouncing around as it 762 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:30,159 struggles to maintain the focus on any one task for an extended period. I 763 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:34,440 do wonder like you know now, I've actually trained myself to leave my phone 764 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,599 on my desk when I get home. You can try not to touch it. 765 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,960 Okay, the experience, but it's very addictive, like they're saying here. 766 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:44,880 Social media is a major contributing factor to the declining attention span. According 767 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:50,000 to a psychiatrist at Plainville Hospital Plainview Hospital, excuse me, in New York, 768 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,199 the experience is extremely addictive, more addictive than any other activity because you 769 00:51:53,280 --> 00:52:00,320 have these small amounts of dopamine being stimulated on a very frequent basis and stop. 770 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,679 The pattern is extremely difficult. Over time, this constant demand for attention 771 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:08,280 and the rapid switching between tax can lead to the restlessness bouncing around, according 772 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:13,360 to Daniel Haig, who's a psychologist, But that's something that wasn't here thirty 773 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,840 years ago. And I do think that you've got to try to discipline yourself 774 00:52:17,159 --> 00:52:22,079 because otherwise you'll be all over the place, and that sometimes shutting it down 775 00:52:22,599 --> 00:52:24,480 is the best thing you can do for yourself. Dopamine is a drug and 776 00:52:24,679 --> 00:52:28,519 chemical in your brain right, and that's why they call drug addicts users. 777 00:52:28,559 --> 00:52:34,159 They also call social media users smartphone users. But the problem is, and 778 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,199 I think we saw this over the weekend. I think it was Friday when 779 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:42,239 AT and T went down. How many people probably that were on AT and 780 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,079 T or T Mobile. I think they were also T Mobile. There are 781 00:52:45,079 --> 00:52:47,639 certain aspects of Horizon. It was like a string in Texas like Houston, 782 00:52:49,039 --> 00:52:52,280 Dallas. And they're saying that what it was was a software update on there 783 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:58,599 and not somebody hacking. But you look at the dependency on the phone could 784 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,000 well it's not screwed. It's sad when I see dependency on the phone. 785 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,800 Who has called you last, what text can you not live with? Every 786 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:07,920 one of us could be, but we hear it and we jump to it. 787 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,840 We jump to it because we've trained ourselves to do that. And I 788 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:15,840 and I think that that's bad. And we're constantly getting information, some of 789 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:19,840 it maybe not real, some of it, you know what I'm saying. 790 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,880 Like, so now we've got I just saw that news story on my phone 791 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:27,039 about you better not let your kids outside and ogden everybody in, everybody saying 792 00:53:27,039 --> 00:53:29,639 it, and I go, hang on a second. They know who they're 793 00:53:29,679 --> 00:53:32,239 looking for, number one, number two, they're not looking for you, 794 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:36,320 So don't worry about it. Get outside, play, and yes, you 795 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,079 should probably be with your kids. They like being around you when they're little. 796 00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:40,440 There's gonna be a point where they don't watch you around, so go 797 00:53:40,679 --> 00:53:43,880 do it. Father used to tell me that, Danny boy, what I'm 798 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,000 dead, You're gonna miss these days, Yes, said, I'm a high 799 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:49,079 school senior. Yes, I lost the remote. Now get by the cable 800 00:53:49,079 --> 00:53:51,920 box and keep changing the chail tight to stop that. You can go out 801 00:53:52,199 --> 00:53:57,000 if they go back, go back, all right, keep going. Take 802 00:53:57,039 --> 00:53:59,119 a moment. I want to talk to you. I watch something over the 803 00:53:59,159 --> 00:54:01,599 weekend that I know you've watched, and I know you lived. You lived 804 00:54:01,599 --> 00:54:05,400 more than I lived. Oh really? Yeah? Was it Doc? Yes? 805 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:07,960 And I love docs. My wife hates them. I love them too. 806 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,920 Well. We'll get to that next, But first Leo's because it's back 807 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,920 to work, back to school after the winter recess. 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Your journey begins 833 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,880 with Myers Personal Touch Myers r V where the right RV meets the right price. 834 00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:30,239 Learned more at Myers RVs dot com thirty years ago. Danny still remember 835 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:35,320 the first time I saw this, heard the went out and bought CD. 836 00:56:36,119 --> 00:56:40,480 CD came out after he died. Probably the most yeah, probably the most 837 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:45,079 memorable unpluged performance. Because of that. I have an unplugged book at home 838 00:56:45,079 --> 00:56:49,519 that I bought for five bucks on Amazon. It was used still that cracked 839 00:56:49,519 --> 00:56:53,199 it open. But it talks about all the unplugs. That's awesome. Why 840 00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:57,119 why are you laughing about that? Why does that crack your up because you've 841 00:56:57,159 --> 00:57:00,360 bought it? If you still have an open day, I got a whole 842 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:05,519 slow books. I fought I have an open but here I read twelve books 843 00:57:05,599 --> 00:57:07,159 last year. I'm not saying I know, I know, I know, 844 00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,719 I know, I got Yeah, I'm the joke. The guy who pays 845 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:15,840 full price for books at Barnes and Noble. What family guy once made a 846 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:20,079 job? Some people buy books at full price at Barnes and Noble. Yeah, 847 00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,920 yeah, it's me, But I've gotten gift Love book I too. 848 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:27,000 I've gotten gift cards from people, yeah, from Barnes and Noble, and 849 00:57:27,039 --> 00:57:30,800 I used them on books. We were talking about thirty years ago, and 850 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:35,920 it actually you started out with you know today and the tolerance, which they 851 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,440 didn't have thirty years ago. Really nineteen ninety four. Ambiguous, Yes, 852 00:57:39,719 --> 00:57:43,119 okay. What it was supposed to mean was when they would ask somebody about 853 00:57:43,119 --> 00:57:46,800 their sexuality, I prefer to remain ambiguous, which was supposed to mean I'm 854 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:51,119 not going to disclose my sexuality is. But it ultimately meant was anyone who 855 00:57:51,119 --> 00:57:54,559 said they were ambiguous was probably gay. And it was true. It was 856 00:57:54,599 --> 00:57:58,880 true. And I remember that because Michael Stipe used to say from RAM used 857 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,880 to say that I prefer remained sexually ambiguous. Oh okay, so he's not 858 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:06,760 going to disclose what he is. But most straight people like, they're pretty 859 00:58:07,079 --> 00:58:12,079 obviously straight, and the ones who aren't usually ended up being gay. Well, 860 00:58:12,119 --> 00:58:15,400 this came out thirty years ago about a girl was from thirty years ago, 861 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:16,559 and I don't remember. The unplug might have been a little after that, 862 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:20,599 no around there. Yeah, yeah, and the word ambiguous was a 863 00:58:20,639 --> 00:58:24,519 thing. But you know, we live in a world today where there was 864 00:58:24,719 --> 00:58:30,960 an x A picture of Donald Trump and Joe Biden sitting across from each other 865 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:35,119 with a haze of like smoke around them and a big bag of weed on 866 00:58:35,239 --> 00:58:39,599 a table. And the picture looked like really authentically done. I mean you 867 00:58:39,679 --> 00:58:44,440 have to really it was a great photoshop job, the whole thing. But 868 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,719 it had to be told to people that this wasn't a real picture. You 869 00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:52,920 see what I'm saying. That's where the attention span and stuff of being so 870 00:58:52,079 --> 00:58:58,199 quick and to grab somebody's attention that may grab their attention, then they believe 871 00:58:58,199 --> 00:59:00,599 it and move on. And it had to be playing that. No, 872 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:05,800 and if you people are looking as closely again, well his ears a little 873 00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,239 off. That's not what his ear looks like or whatever. But we live 874 00:59:08,239 --> 00:59:13,519 in a world where things move so fast, and I think people don't know 875 00:59:13,559 --> 00:59:15,840 what's right and what's wrong. Oh yeah, like that John, you know 876 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:22,519 John Oliver, John Oliver leans left and he could say leans and when he 877 00:59:22,679 --> 00:59:25,119 after Trump got elected or no, during the pandemic, excuse me. He 878 00:59:25,159 --> 00:59:30,880 talked about how memes have become a thing that people just believe. Yes, 879 00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:32,960 And he showed one of President Trump saying, if I were going to run 880 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:37,400 for president. I didn't run as a Republican because Republicans had the stupid his 881 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,440 base. And now he hates Trump and he goes he never said that, 882 00:59:39,559 --> 00:59:44,119 right, just to show you, like what people will just believe, which, 883 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,599 by the way, I'm glad that he'll say he never said that, 884 00:59:47,639 --> 00:59:52,239 because people would think that he doesn't want to support anything and he's just gonna 885 00:59:52,239 --> 00:59:57,119 shot all over him. And maybe that's not the case. He disagrees on 886 00:59:57,159 --> 01:00:00,679 different different policies, but he's not going to put false word in the guy's 887 01:00:00,719 --> 01:00:02,239 mouth. Right, But we do. We see these things and so we 888 01:00:02,639 --> 01:00:06,599 chomp on and we believe them. Let's go back thirty years. I saw 889 01:00:06,599 --> 01:00:10,360 something documentary, Yes, the Four Falls of Buffalo. I finally watched it. 890 01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,599 Did you really? Yes? Have you watched it? So many thoughts 891 01:00:13,639 --> 01:00:15,519 on this. Have you watched it? Yes? I have? Okay, 892 01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:16,800 you just watched it? Now, you didn't watch it when it came out? 893 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:21,039 No, it was on Netflix. Now, so it came out on 894 01:00:21,079 --> 01:00:24,480 a Saturday night in like twenty sixteen. Yeah, and they made ABC made 895 01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:28,039 a big deal about it. It was a huge premiers. Yeah, but 896 01:00:28,079 --> 01:00:30,920 I have I've never watched it. Okay, So I just watched it this 897 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:37,119 weekend, and I there were a couple of things I didn't know about that 898 01:00:37,239 --> 01:00:40,920 went on there. One, I was a Giants fan for the first Super 899 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,880 Bowl I was. I lived downstate. I had liked the Giants growing up. 900 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,800 I became a Buffalo Bills fan because I lived here. But not just 901 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:52,320 that I lived here, but I also went to training camp. I interviewed 902 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:57,000 the players. Mario Williams was going to kill us. That whole thing. 903 01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,199 I remember that. But so you became a fan because you were someone invested 904 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:04,320 you around these guys, and it was the biggest thing in town. And 905 01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,119 so you'd say I jumped on the bandwagon. And I've stayed on the bagwagon 906 01:01:07,159 --> 01:01:10,920 for nearly thirty years. I know a lot of Giants fans twenty twenty years 907 01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:14,360 who have done the same thing. Well, I had nothing to do with 908 01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,880 that. It's just that I didn't live down state anymore. I wasn't opening 909 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:22,199 my paper to get the Giants news every day. Everything was Buffalo and you 910 01:01:22,199 --> 01:01:28,280 know, and working in meeting Losmosis. So but I loved the love that 911 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,159 was shown to Scott Norwood. I didn't know about that when they came back. 912 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,440 Oh, yeah, and there were thirty. Did you now you were 913 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,079 a little boy, was in fifth grade? Did your dad take you out 914 01:01:37,119 --> 01:01:39,239 of school and take you there? No, my father wouldn't take me to 915 01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:42,719 a game. So in eighty seven we went to a game where the Bills 916 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,360 played the Patriots and then lost thirteen to seven. Doug Flutie was the backup 917 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:51,360 quarterback to Steve Grogan, and they actually served glass bottles back then, and 918 01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,559 a fight broke out in our section. Guy got the crap beat out of. 919 01:01:53,559 --> 01:01:57,639 My father goes never again, Danny boy, which is fine by me 920 01:01:57,639 --> 01:02:00,519 because I couldn't see the entire game in a snowsuit. I'm like four feet 921 01:02:00,599 --> 01:02:06,280 tall. Everyone's standing over me. But I mean so, we never went 922 01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,199 the games, but we taped every game. My father was like the all 923 01:02:08,239 --> 01:02:12,000 twenty two guy before it was all twenty two. He would tape the game. 924 01:02:12,079 --> 01:02:15,000 He'd watch it every day because he worked second shift. He'd watch it 925 01:02:15,039 --> 01:02:16,079 every day before work. And we come home from school, dann, I 926 01:02:16,079 --> 01:02:19,920 got another idea about this freaking team. Let me tell you something, and 927 01:02:20,039 --> 01:02:22,960 he'd say something, I watched the news today and such and such. You 928 01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,239 know, Kelly's doing all right. He's gonna take back calling the plays, 929 01:02:24,559 --> 01:02:29,079 but we were really into it. I watched every we watched every game we 930 01:02:29,159 --> 01:02:31,760 could, and we loved that team, and Scott Norwood was the guy that 931 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:35,400 he was just a quiet I dressed up with Scott norwand from my third grade 932 01:02:35,519 --> 01:02:39,400 Halloween, I wore an eleven jersey. My mother awesome, my mother like 933 01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:43,599 put in tape. My mother could like was a fabulous artist, and she 934 01:02:43,679 --> 01:02:46,039 put the words Norwood in tape on the back of my jersey, which was 935 01:02:46,039 --> 01:02:50,719 actually a phil Simms jersey. Okay, so she blotted out the Giant's part 936 01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:52,679 and put Bills in the front and the Norwood in the back, and I 937 01:02:52,719 --> 01:02:55,519 had a Bill's helmet. I dressed up as Scott Norwood cause in eighty eight 938 01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:59,000 he was having a heck of a season. He was a pro bowler that 939 01:02:59,079 --> 01:03:02,199 year. He was h that's funny. Yeah, Okay, So I didn't 940 01:03:02,239 --> 01:03:07,159 know about the love that came to him, because, oh yeah, I 941 01:03:07,199 --> 01:03:13,000 guess again through other things we've seen happen over the years that there were probably 942 01:03:13,039 --> 01:03:16,199 death threats to him, and you know how distraught he was, and he 943 01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:21,360 I think he got one more season kicked in ninety one, he had a 944 01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,760 rough year. He missed like four field goals against the Raiders, and at 945 01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:28,519 that point Bill Paullion's like, we got to find somebody new, and they 946 01:03:28,519 --> 01:03:30,920 brought in Steve Christie and he never got another shot. Yeah, this guy 947 01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,320 was a pro Bowl or three years earlier. He never got another shot. 948 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,639 Nobody wanted to take a chance. But I mean, I wonder if that 949 01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,239 just shows you how much we live in our head. Oh yeah, like 950 01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:43,880 could have fucked him up that much. He's still not over it. But 951 01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,679 yeah, when you got the oppression from watching that doc he's still not over 952 01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:51,960 it, right, And that documentary's almost ten years old, Yeah, twenty 953 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,599 sixteen. Yeah, we're twenty twenty four. Yeah, do you believe that 954 01:03:55,639 --> 01:04:01,400 the Apache Apache Apachi helicopter was Davis were calling? Yeah, well, because 955 01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,079 we're okay for those who don't know where during the Gulf War, the First 956 01:04:04,119 --> 01:04:10,800 Golf War, they had intended they had Apache helicopters out there to keep watching 957 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:15,599 case Saddam who couldn't even find his you know, f right, but we 958 01:04:15,639 --> 01:04:17,039 didn't know, We didn't know this at that point. It was a large 959 01:04:17,079 --> 01:04:20,239 gap. No, I don't think the Apache even Bruce David the special tapes 960 01:04:20,239 --> 01:04:25,360 because I love Kenny Davis, dude, but it's still way the Apache helicopters 961 01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:29,079 prevented that field goal from going through the uprights. What it was was Frank 962 01:04:29,119 --> 01:04:32,480 Reich had the laces at ten o'clock instead of noon. And they think that's 963 01:04:32,519 --> 01:04:36,000 got what had the biggest impact on Scott Norwood missing the kick. But Scott 964 01:04:36,039 --> 01:04:39,559 had a tough time kicking on grass. He had never hit a forty seven 965 01:04:39,639 --> 01:04:44,400 yard around grass, right, I And okay, so I all these things 966 01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,719 came out. But the one thing that I've always thought over the years because 967 01:04:47,719 --> 01:04:51,280 it was very easy to joke. And then in the documentary they say when 968 01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:56,400 they get to the fourth one, uh, anybody but Buffalo not again. 969 01:04:56,719 --> 01:05:00,159 Mike Lupica of the of the New York Daily Evening and Rick Riley of s 970 01:05:00,239 --> 01:05:02,760 I were like, no more, Yeah, no more, don't let him 971 01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:08,559 in. Blahbah. But it it's sort of it's a joke. But God, 972 01:05:08,679 --> 01:05:15,119 what an impressive run. I mean, it's unbelievable. We're talking about 973 01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:23,280 Kansas City winning their third, which would be unbelievable. I know the Bills 974 01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,559 have well third in a row. If they do it right, wouldn't this 975 01:05:25,599 --> 01:05:30,480 be their I'm sorry, You're right, they have they have on three in 976 01:05:30,599 --> 01:05:31,920 five. They could win another way, be three in a row. Yes, 977 01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,000 that's what I'm saying. It's three in a row repeat. But to 978 01:05:34,119 --> 01:05:39,519 go to four in a row, nobody's done that. And Jim Kelly even 979 01:05:39,599 --> 01:05:42,800 said said that recently. I don't know if you saw this over the weekend 980 01:05:43,119 --> 01:05:45,679 or if it was a meme that somebody made up, but Kelly said, 981 01:05:45,079 --> 01:05:48,679 you know, talk s to me when you've gone to four straight like I 982 01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:51,599 have. You know, So here was the thing that I was taken away. 983 01:05:51,639 --> 01:05:56,079 And we'll get your thoughts because then we can go back to the Therman 984 01:05:56,159 --> 01:06:00,760 Thomas Helmet too. But I'm watching this and I went and at one point 985 01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,880 at dawn to me and go, holy shit. They played every game you 986 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:10,800 could possibly play for four seasons in a row. Yep. Every single NFL 987 01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:16,800 game for four seasons involved the Buffalo Bills. They played every game you could 988 01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:20,400 possibly play, right, yep, all the way through, way through, 989 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:24,039 all the way through to the end. They did four seasons in a row. 990 01:06:24,519 --> 01:06:30,159 They were beating Dallas in the final Super Bowl at halftime and they all 991 01:06:30,239 --> 01:06:34,840 say in there and and Troy Aikman says, I watched them. You know, 992 01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:40,679 usually it's different ends of the field or whatever. But we were close. 993 01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:44,519 And as they're walking off, I'm noticing these guys aren't pumped up, 994 01:06:44,559 --> 01:06:49,159 Hey we're ahead. They're like almost defeated, deflated. And I think it 995 01:06:49,239 --> 01:06:55,719 was Tasker who said we gave everything we had, and yeah, he goes, 996 01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,400 we ran out of gas. But when I stopped to thinking, go 997 01:07:00,119 --> 01:07:02,599 not that Dallas had done it the season before. They had played in every 998 01:07:02,639 --> 01:07:05,800 game this season before and gone to the super Bowl. Now this was a 999 01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:12,320 rematch again, and I go, but four seasons in a row. Mentally, 1000 01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:15,239 that's exhausting, just let alone the toll on your body. And you're 1001 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:19,119 talking thirty years ago when they didn't protect quarterbacks or have the rules like they 1002 01:07:19,199 --> 01:07:25,320 do now to at least give you a chance. I'm glad you brought this 1003 01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,079 up because I have so many thoughts on this whole thing. So first of 1004 01:07:28,119 --> 01:07:31,280 all, I actually got angry during the documentary when it came out. Okay, 1005 01:07:31,599 --> 01:07:34,440 when Taskers said that we just ran out of gas, I'm like, 1006 01:07:35,559 --> 01:07:39,719 that's your answer, that's why you lost four Yeah, But as I'm listening, 1007 01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:44,639 I go, you played every game you possibly could play for four seasons, 1008 01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:49,400 and I do wonder if it becomes a mental thing in your head where 1009 01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:53,960 you goo, we're just never getting over it. Fuck it. So I 1010 01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,760 don't think I don't remember they showed this or not, because they try to 1011 01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:00,400 keep OJ out in as much as possible. For like one second, No 1012 01:08:00,079 --> 01:08:06,559 OJ was all over that thing as a reporter, because I don't remember if 1013 01:08:06,559 --> 01:08:12,679 O J Buffalo bills. Right. So OJ came out of the locker room 1014 01:08:13,119 --> 01:08:15,760 after halftime because I remember this because we were all excited as fays like this 1015 01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:19,439 could be it, and he goes. Nobody said a word to each other, 1016 01:08:20,039 --> 01:08:23,239 and they show that in the document. Okay, they did show that, 1017 01:08:23,359 --> 01:08:25,960 right, nobody said a word, And I looked at my father, 1018 01:08:27,279 --> 01:08:30,359 going, this could be a good thing or a bad thing. And right 1019 01:08:30,399 --> 01:08:33,920 after Thurman Thomas fumbled then for the second time and James Washington returned it for 1020 01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:39,680 a touchdown. We knew, yeah it's over, Yeah it's over. And 1021 01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:43,640 Thurman feels like you let everybody down. What was the Super Bowl where Thurman 1022 01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:45,600 couldn't find his helmet? That was the second Super Bowl against Washington. Again, 1023 01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:49,319 nobody was beating that team most Bills fans. I think even Jim Kelly, 1024 01:08:49,319 --> 01:08:53,319 you could ask Greg Connors this, most Bills fans will tell you. 1025 01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:56,920 Most Bills will tell you that nobody was beating Washington that day. Okay, 1026 01:08:57,119 --> 01:09:00,239 that was the of the four Super Bowls. That was the one time that 1027 01:09:00,239 --> 01:09:04,039 they had no shot at winning a Super Bowl. So not the Dallas games. 1028 01:09:04,239 --> 01:09:08,640 That game, so that whole thing was I think it was a halftime 1029 01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:13,199 show or or a performance by a band, or a practice. Yeah, 1030 01:09:13,199 --> 01:09:15,720 but yeah, before the game. This is the helmet, the helmet we're 1031 01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:18,760 talking about missing helmet. Thurmann put his helmet in a certain spot, right, 1032 01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:21,079 and they came out to do the national anthem. It is a big 1033 01:09:21,119 --> 01:09:27,640 performance, and one of the equipment managers didn't want the helmet to be misplaced, 1034 01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:30,479 so they took it. Okay, so they said on the documentary, 1035 01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,720 at least the way I heard it, they may have had a gummy, 1036 01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:43,319 actually not a gummy, had chocolate covered espresso beans with THC. Okay, 1037 01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,039 all right, I'm just saying I could have been a little high, just 1038 01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:51,840 very relaxed. I I thought they said that somebody, one of the one 1039 01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:56,920 of the musicians moved it out of their way. They okay, they made 1040 01:09:56,920 --> 01:10:00,000 the equipment manager never so the equipment manager couldn't find it. So they're looking 1041 01:10:00,039 --> 01:10:06,279 all over and finally equipment manager three or four plays in there was a touchdown 1042 01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:11,359 that they go. Had Thurman been in, he would have scored because there 1043 01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:15,079 was a wide open lane and whoever was playing running back, yeah, could 1044 01:10:15,279 --> 01:10:24,279 just couldn't do it or didn't see it. But so years around that time 1045 01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:30,560 had to be after that Super Bowl. Ninety was the Giants. Ninety one 1046 01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:34,199 was Washington. I remember hearing this because I wasn't at the radio station, 1047 01:10:34,279 --> 01:10:43,159 but they had a celebrity softball game and Thurman Thomas came and they were playing 1048 01:10:43,159 --> 01:10:46,680 at the old Silver Stadium where the Rochester Red Wings now the farm team for 1049 01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:49,920 the Nationals at the time, I believe the farm team for the Orial Orioles. 1050 01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:54,960 Uh. They had this big thing and they had a local radio personality, 1051 01:10:55,359 --> 01:10:59,199 brother Weez, who's in the National Radio Hall of Fame, announced and 1052 01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:02,359 Thurman's coming up to bad and he says something about the missing helmet, and 1053 01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:08,560 apparently Thurman fucking flipped like wanted to kick his ass, literally wanted to kick 1054 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:12,119 his ass. Came storming over, screaming and all this stuff, and another 1055 01:11:12,159 --> 01:11:15,680 guy in the crowd yells Thurman, where's your ring? It? Scott A 1056 01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,000 Toniac told the other happens. But Toniac was involved in that because he had 1057 01:11:18,039 --> 01:11:20,000 to go ask him about it. After no, all of a sudden, 1058 01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:25,039 we have a story here. Thurman's flipping out, and so now he's right 1059 01:11:25,079 --> 01:11:27,600 and he's got to go cover it. And then Thurman was like losing his 1060 01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:30,920 mind in the you know, in the it becomes like Murphy's law. Right, 1061 01:11:31,039 --> 01:11:33,800 people want to believe in Murphy's law more than they want to believe in 1062 01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:38,960 other laws, like gravity is a law right, a la a law of 1063 01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:41,199 physics. I know, if I picked this up, I'd let it go. 1064 01:11:41,239 --> 01:11:43,880 It's gonna drop, I know it. It's there. Well, the 1065 01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,560 Murphy's law is what can go wrong will go wrong. Well, with the 1066 01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:51,279 Buffalo Bills, it feels like what can't go go wrong will go wrong? 1067 01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:57,760 From a missing helmet that maybe it led to a loss, I don't know, 1068 01:11:58,119 --> 01:12:02,479 but the score would have been tighter, probably potentially, potentially potentially And 1069 01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:08,239 then I didn't pay attention in college to football as much. It were so 1070 01:12:08,319 --> 01:12:12,039 busy doing any other things. I mean, I actually paid more attention to 1071 01:12:12,159 --> 01:12:15,880 basketball, but Buffalo Bills and there were some guys who went to you know, 1072 01:12:15,039 --> 01:12:18,720 grew up in Buffalo and went to games and stuff like that that I 1073 01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:20,800 you know, we went to super Bowl parties and all this, and I 1074 01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:26,039 remember laughing when they lost to fourth one, going this is unbelievable. But 1075 01:12:26,079 --> 01:12:29,079 I was like, I don't really care. It was fun to hang around 1076 01:12:29,079 --> 01:12:31,319 and have a super Bowl party and no big deal. But I go, 1077 01:12:31,319 --> 01:12:36,039 God, what an impressive run that they're I think now and they say it 1078 01:12:36,079 --> 01:12:41,880 in the documentary they get more credit now than they did. But what a 1079 01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:46,000 difference to making winning just one would mean for the city of Buffalo. I've 1080 01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,399 thought about that. I think it would mean a lot. It would mean 1081 01:12:48,399 --> 01:12:51,560 everything. Yeah, it would mean everything to these people. It would mean 1082 01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:56,399 everything to all of us, especially in Buffalo, being in Rochester's part of 1083 01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:59,439 it, but in Buffalo, growing up in Buffalo. Yeah, it would 1084 01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:04,479 mean everything. Thing. But my father said, I remember this after they 1085 01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:06,800 lost the first one. He was Danny, you know what, it's probably 1086 01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:10,800 better that they didn't win this yet. How the rationale comes out after something 1087 01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:14,800 goes wrong sour grapes, Because I think they would have gotten a little heady, 1088 01:13:15,359 --> 01:13:18,960 and they probably just all write a book and do their own thing, 1089 01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:23,840 and they probably wouldn't go back. And the further and further we get away 1090 01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,920 from that. When you watch that documentary which was a which was a softball 1091 01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:30,680 tournament, it was a puff piece. They really never got into how did 1092 01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:32,520 you lose these four Super Bowls? They don't talk about the fact that these 1093 01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:38,119 guys were all partying. Well, they said they were all partying their balls 1094 01:13:38,159 --> 01:13:41,960 off basically for the first one, for the first one, but they kind 1095 01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:44,800 of did the other three too, and nobody really talked about it that the 1096 01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:46,479 other ones. They made it sound like, you know, we learned and 1097 01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,840 that was it, and that no one was really beating the Redskins that year, 1098 01:13:50,319 --> 01:13:54,199 and they had gotten them fired up, calling them the Hogs or whoever 1099 01:13:54,239 --> 01:13:57,399 the defensive was. Chuck Dickerson made fun of them, and yeah, you 1100 01:13:57,399 --> 01:14:01,000 know, and then you had, uh, the Dallas games, which the 1101 01:14:01,039 --> 01:14:04,239 first one was a blowout, the second one they were leading in Kelly got 1102 01:14:04,319 --> 01:14:08,640 hurt early, but he gave him fourteen points, so the two turnovers then 1103 01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:13,159 and then he got hurt and nine turnovers later. But I mean, it's 1104 01:14:13,199 --> 01:14:16,920 an interesting it is I wonder if the Bills had won that Super Bowl, 1105 01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:23,439 if they remember the eighty six Mets. The story about the eighty six Mets 1106 01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:26,039 was that the bad guys won. There's a book about him. Yeah, 1107 01:14:26,039 --> 01:14:29,079 And after they won that, everybody this team's gonna turn to a dynasty. 1108 01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:32,880 So everybody wrote a book. Everybody started doing more drugs and getting into more 1109 01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:38,880 stupid stuff, and they never went back. And a lot of people wonder 1110 01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,600 because the Bills, like Buffalo is a small town with a lot of big 1111 01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:44,479 fish, and they had a lot of superstars on that team. That team 1112 01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,560 was way more talented than any of the Bills teams in the last five six 1113 01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:50,560 years, the Allen Bills. There were more stars on that team than these 1114 01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:55,119 Bills teams. And yet have they won that one of those Super Bowls? 1115 01:14:55,159 --> 01:14:58,159 I wonder what would have happened. I even wonder if we have a franchise, 1116 01:14:58,239 --> 01:15:01,279 because part of the allure of buying Bills season tickets and supporting this team, 1117 01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:04,279 even when Doug Flutie came in to help sell out those dugout sweets, 1118 01:15:04,359 --> 01:15:10,239 was just win one. Let's just win one. And had they won that, 1119 01:15:11,039 --> 01:15:14,720 maybe they would have turned into the the the Super Bowl thirty seven Tampa 1120 01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:16,520 Bay Buccaneers, Oh they won one, that was it? Yeah, you 1121 01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,239 know, or the Baltimore Ravens that one year, Oh they won one, 1122 01:15:19,319 --> 01:15:24,119 that was it? So it would I think they kept going back because they 1123 01:15:24,119 --> 01:15:26,920 had something to prove, but when they got there, they just, you 1124 01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:30,800 know, they would go back to like partying, and maybe the partying. 1125 01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,760 I also wonder, honestly, psychologically, if you just feel like you just 1126 01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:36,760 can't get over it, or do you know every little thing that can go 1127 01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:41,720 wrong will go wrong that mentality. I do wonder if there's a psychological component 1128 01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:45,600 to it. I don't know, but it's an interesting documentary I had not 1129 01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:50,039 seen. It is on Netflix now have a Gummy and One. I interviewed 1130 01:15:50,079 --> 01:15:54,359 a ton of people for it, some of whom were like, not necessary, 1131 01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:58,439 Yeah, but I like Luke Russert get out of here well only because 1132 01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:02,520 his dad had passed by that point. Yeah, okay, here we go, 1133 01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:06,159 here we go. So he wrote, he wasn't even he was a 1134 01:16:06,199 --> 01:16:13,439 watching. He wasn't a bill a buffalo guy like you don't like liberal. 1135 01:16:14,199 --> 01:16:15,119 I don't care if he's a liberal or not. I'm sure he is. 1136 01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,199 He's buddy for James Carvel. I'm sure he is, but that's not the 1137 01:16:18,239 --> 01:16:23,000 issue. I don't care what your politics are. Talking about the Buffalo Bills 1138 01:16:23,039 --> 01:16:27,159 here talked his dad talked about it a lot, dad, grandfather. But 1139 01:16:27,199 --> 01:16:30,760 we we know this was like I think sometimes when you live in a small 1140 01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:35,279 city like we do, or like Buffalo, that you love anybody who loves 1141 01:16:35,359 --> 01:16:40,359 us, like Chris Berman. Okay, so anytime somebody who is of any 1142 01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:45,840 name is from South Buffalo. His father was from from South Buffalo. If 1143 01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:47,640 his father were alive, I want to I want to hear from from Tim 1144 01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:50,680 Run. His father's dead, and he had talked about it on a national 1145 01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:55,239 TV and he had had his father on one year in all Bills Gears, 1146 01:16:55,319 --> 01:16:58,079 I think this is just this was just the Bill's way of trying to get 1147 01:16:58,159 --> 01:17:01,000 national exposure and just let's bring it. Luke Russell, Hey, let's bring 1148 01:17:01,039 --> 01:17:08,319 it, doctor Roberts. We need someone to explain how to ESPN did this 1149 01:17:08,399 --> 01:17:13,960 documentary. The Pulas did the documentary and sold it to ESPN. Okay, 1150 01:17:14,079 --> 01:17:16,960 well, well, I know one of the girls who produced the documentary. 1151 01:17:17,239 --> 01:17:21,560 She's working NFL Films. She worked for the bill. They did they I 1152 01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:26,840 just wish they would have dun it. I just said Luke Russer didn't belong 1153 01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:30,720 in the documentary. He was talking about his dad's love for there were people 1154 01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,520 that just died. Greig Commers belongs to the documentary more than Luke Russer does. 1155 01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:38,800 The reason they don't want Greg and Greg I love you is you you'll 1156 01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:42,720 talk too much about it. Let me tell you one more thing. But 1157 01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,800 he could tell you though, you know, like there's like, what how 1158 01:17:45,039 --> 01:17:49,199 how did you? How did you lose? For? How did you not 1159 01:17:49,279 --> 01:17:54,960 get your act together for one of those Super Bowls? I can't. I 1160 01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:58,520 don't know. I would say that. I think there's by that point in 1161 01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:00,800 the season, and he did it four years in a row. To me, 1162 01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:06,000 that's because I'm watching. I'm watching the Patriots series now on Apple TV 1163 01:18:06,159 --> 01:18:10,079 called The Dynasty. It is written by Jeff Benedict. I have the book 1164 01:18:10,119 --> 01:18:13,479 now. The book itself was a softball tournament. It was a puff piece. 1165 01:18:14,279 --> 01:18:19,159 But this doc these guys talk and they don't care who they hurt. 1166 01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:24,680 They talk a lot of f bombs too, And these guys get to the 1167 01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:29,319 to the nitty gritty of what happened and why. When it's with Spygate with 1168 01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:32,439 you know, replacing bled Cell with Brady. But Bledsoe talks about how ticked 1169 01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:35,439 off he was, you know, Belichick talks about the moves he made, 1170 01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:41,680 all that stuff. These guys all talk. I feel like the Bills really 1171 01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:44,800 kind of protected each other in the Four Falls of Buffalo that they really didn't 1172 01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:48,239 want to get into the why, like we'll never we'll never get into it. 1173 01:18:48,279 --> 01:18:53,079 We'll never nobody's ever written a book about how the Bills lost four Super 1174 01:18:53,119 --> 01:18:57,680 Bowls. It's not looking at a guy who's a writer. I'm looking at 1175 01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:00,960 a guy who's a writer. Okay, why don't you do it? Why 1176 01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,560 didn't you get on it? I don't know if i'd get the access to 1177 01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:05,399 if anybody would tell the truth. I think a lot of writers have tried. 1178 01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:09,640 They don't. They're never going to get the full How do you know? 1179 01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:16,279 See if you can get we have great. But all you're doing is 1180 01:19:16,319 --> 01:19:20,880 putting. You're doing exactly what geez you're doing. Huh No, you're doing 1181 01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:26,760 exactly what everybody does. Everybody's tried it before. I better not do it. 1182 01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:30,439 Better not do a podcast, because everybody does a podcast. To fuck 1183 01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:33,319 off, go do it? And if it doesn't work. Who cares, 1184 01:19:33,399 --> 01:19:38,560 who knows if you failed? Nobody, But you know you have somebody that 1185 01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:45,079 could get you access to everybody you mentioned him. Greg would help you in 1186 01:19:45,119 --> 01:19:48,119 a minute get you access or at least give you the contact information. You 1187 01:19:48,119 --> 01:19:53,279 don't have to do the legwork, but you could do it, and then 1188 01:19:53,319 --> 01:19:56,359 you could write the book. You could even put in there. And now 1189 01:19:56,520 --> 01:20:00,079 great question that I'm sure many many diehard Bills fans want to know, Well, 1190 01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:04,000 what really happened the documentary? In my opinion, Dan Barrillo's opinion on 1191 01:20:04,119 --> 01:20:09,039 mine, But Dan Bridill's does not answer the question, how did you lose 1192 01:20:09,239 --> 01:20:14,880 four in a row? You know, maybe you get an answer to all 1193 01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:18,920 these guys. Thurman lives there, and Kelly lives there, and Andre's around. 1194 01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:23,319 But I think it alludes to what I said. I think these guys 1195 01:20:23,359 --> 01:20:26,239 all protect each other. They they protect each other. Don't think they will. 1196 01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:30,600 Somebody said that Jim was I mean, didn't they blame Jim on something 1197 01:20:30,039 --> 01:20:33,000 in that documentary? I think, well, they blamed Jim, so they 1198 01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:36,479 when they talked to Bill Pollion, yeah about it was eighty nine the bickering 1199 01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:40,399 bills, Because you have to give the origin of how this team and they 1200 01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:43,680 talked about like you know, Bill Pollion pulled Thurman says, you can't criticize 1201 01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:46,119 your quarterback. And Thurman's like, what it is? Tell him? But 1202 01:20:46,239 --> 01:20:49,920 he's but tell him he can't criticize a Ballard so permissing a block. But 1203 01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:54,520 this is my point. Maybe you can, maybe you can get to the 1204 01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:58,319 crowd. Maybe you'll get to yeah, we really partied a lot. Maybe 1205 01:20:58,319 --> 01:21:00,960 you get that. Maybe you find a creative way to write the book. 1206 01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:05,800 It's available. The opportunity is there. That's all I'm saying. All you 1207 01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:10,239 need is an opportunity. That's it. You don't need it. Who cares? 1208 01:21:10,359 --> 01:21:12,960 Anyway? There's a million people who wrote book. Yeah there are, 1209 01:21:13,119 --> 01:21:15,960 There's there's tons. You're absolutely right, so listen to all them and let 1210 01:21:16,039 --> 01:21:20,399 their failures be your failure. Okay, do you understand what I'm saying? 1211 01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:24,479 Do you see what I'm saying? Because everybody's going to tell you how it 1212 01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:26,880 can't work, and they're not, and they're going to do it out of 1213 01:21:27,079 --> 01:21:30,880 what I think is mostly a good place. But I'm my biggest thing, 1214 01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:35,640 my biggest message with this podcast to everybody, I hope the one underlying theme 1215 01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:42,119 is fuck it, do it yourself. And I mean that if there's a 1216 01:21:42,239 --> 01:21:45,000 if you have a passion to do something, if you want to find the 1217 01:21:45,039 --> 01:21:48,760 answer, then go do it. Well, the thing is when you die, 1218 01:21:49,039 --> 01:21:51,479 when it's all over, when it's coming to an end, when it's 1219 01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:56,520 coming to an end, Okay, when it's coming to an end, are 1220 01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:58,520 you going to look back and go? Man? I really wish I had 1221 01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:00,079 done that. That was a great idea. I wish I had followed through. 1222 01:22:01,239 --> 01:22:04,479 Just go do it. There's nothing stopping you. You know, well, 1223 01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:08,560 you'll put things in the way. You'll you'll find things. I don't 1224 01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,399 have the time, and I uh, I don't have the time, And 1225 01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:14,760 I gotta spend time with Boo. Boom really wants me to listen to all 1226 01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,039 their problems about school. And I could be writing the book, but I 1227 01:22:17,079 --> 01:22:21,039 gotta listen to Boo's problems in our school that teams, and I mean, 1228 01:22:21,319 --> 01:22:27,239 I'm making fun of you. Yes, I have three jobs. I understand. 1229 01:22:27,399 --> 01:22:30,079 I understand in the podcast. Yeah, I got you. I got 1230 01:22:30,119 --> 01:22:34,319 you. But you can I can find time take an hour the book taking 1231 01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:40,439 neither of I And I'm doing it, yes, every day, every day, 1232 01:22:41,039 --> 01:22:44,239 every day, all right, enough, all right, cool, I 1233 01:22:44,239 --> 01:22:47,039 can't wait to read it. I write the forward. Yeah, I don't 1234 01:22:47,039 --> 01:22:51,840 know that it'll be a book. This is trying to make a pilot out 1235 01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:56,000 of it, and they may turn into other things. But yes, but 1236 01:22:56,039 --> 01:23:01,800 I spend an hour a day so everybody can make fun of me. Tell 1237 01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:04,319 me how it sucks. There are a million books and no one's gonna read 1238 01:23:04,319 --> 01:23:11,199 your shoh, shut up. Yes, exactly, exactly exactly, that is 1239 01:23:11,239 --> 01:23:14,800 exactly right. I didn't watch Doug's movie too this weekend? Oh did you? 1240 01:23:15,039 --> 01:23:17,880 How was it? I haven't seen Doug's movie. Maybe a reason why? 1241 01:23:18,079 --> 01:23:25,840 Okay, because I have to convince Boo to watch it, so I 1242 01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:28,640 need a review. I would like I would like you to actually watch it. 1243 01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:31,239 I would love you to watch it. I would love to. Okay. 1244 01:23:31,359 --> 01:23:35,680 So, since we've had this conversation today about my my, my rush 1245 01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:40,800 to judge, my rushes to judgment. Remember Mystery Science Theater three thousand, 1246 01:23:41,319 --> 01:23:44,520 where the two aliens are sitting there commenting on every movie. I would love 1247 01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:47,279 to do a Mystery Science Theater three thousand. Will you be a Doug watching 1248 01:23:47,319 --> 01:23:54,520 Doug's movie and taping all of us watching the movie. The director give it 1249 01:23:54,520 --> 01:24:00,199 in the live commentary, right, it's uh, it's it's. It has 1250 01:24:00,239 --> 01:24:03,960 a sweet sweetness to it, but strippers with the hearts of gold. No, 1251 01:24:04,119 --> 01:24:06,720 it's not that so much, but it's and it's got a story. 1252 01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:11,680 There's a story. I found myself invested, you know in terms of that. 1253 01:24:12,079 --> 01:24:16,239 But some of the dialogue and stuffing. What the fuck Douggy, you 1254 01:24:16,319 --> 01:24:18,960 know he's gonna get up very upset when I talked to him about it, 1255 01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:21,880 because he's been asking me to watch it. So when he's in this week, 1256 01:24:23,079 --> 01:24:25,600 did you watch my movie yet? You know? He reminds me of 1257 01:24:26,359 --> 01:24:28,760 you. He reminds me of don't. Oh no, no, no, 1258 01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:30,920 he's no, no, remember Chip Kelly, who's not the offensive cooridator at 1259 01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:34,840 Ohio State. Chip Kelly and Doug have the same look, the same speaking 1260 01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:40,359 cadence, the same voice, you know, like except once was a head 1261 01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:44,159 coach of the NFL and college football. Doug's probably watching the other guy's on 1262 01:24:44,199 --> 01:24:47,960 Thursdays or Tuesdays. Yes, we'll take a moment. But first, Woodcliffe 1263 01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:53,800 Hotel and spot. 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I think you climbed number one. 1288 01:27:04,239 --> 01:27:09,239 I thought it came out on the day of the Super Bowl, right 1289 01:27:09,279 --> 01:27:13,920 around there. But it's a real live again and a real live ho down. 1290 01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:17,039 Don't be a bitch, come take it to the floor. Now. 1291 01:27:20,199 --> 01:27:27,960 It sounds that I very talented. Yeah, she is never a huge fan 1292 01:27:28,319 --> 01:27:31,600 of other people like Queen Bee and all that, but I was. I 1293 01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:34,560 don't get any of that. It was just impressed. I was impressed. 1294 01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:38,239 I thought it sounded good. And there are songs of hers that I think 1295 01:27:38,239 --> 01:27:42,680 are fantastic and something just I don't I may not even know of she works 1296 01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:45,319 it. Man. Yeah, you realize what kind of shape you have to 1297 01:27:45,359 --> 01:27:51,760 be to be Beyonce in her shows. Like she's incredibly ripped, like like 1298 01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:56,600 Madonna used to be incredibly ripped too. Maybe she still is. To perform 1299 01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:59,600 the way she does and dance and sing and all that, it is hard, 1300 01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:01,039 man. I got to think the same thing for Taylor. I mean, 1301 01:28:01,159 --> 01:28:05,840 yeah, just the stamina to be on stage and singing yes for three 1302 01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:09,399 out. I think it's a different kind of shape for Taylor because I don't 1303 01:28:09,399 --> 01:28:12,159 think I don't see Taylor doing a lot of dance stuff that Beyonce does. 1304 01:28:12,279 --> 01:28:15,159 No, No, it's more like standing and playing guitar and but just the 1305 01:28:15,239 --> 01:28:19,319 stamina and teaking yourself. But yes, one hundred percent. Stone, don't 1306 01:28:19,359 --> 01:28:24,720 they have like a traveling gym? So I think it was Tommy Burnett was 1307 01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:30,359 in here and they were backstage at a Stone show. I don't know if 1308 01:28:30,359 --> 01:28:32,760 it was thorough Good or somebody opening up, and he had was friends with 1309 01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:38,479 those guys. So he's backstage and they they were kicking people out. Mick 1310 01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:42,439 was coming through and you weren't allowed to move it over, told you you're 1311 01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:45,600 not allowed to look at Mike or something. You don't look at Mick, 1312 01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,119 And I don't know so, but Mick was just coming through to go to 1313 01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:53,920 He had his own eighteen wheeler and inside was this gym. Well it was 1314 01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:57,880 this complete gym, the Global Jim. So I have no idea, but 1315 01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:00,960 he I'm pretty sure they were told that you not allowed to look at him 1316 01:29:00,039 --> 01:29:05,960 or something when he moves. The new season of Curb Your Enthusiasm, the 1317 01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:11,680 first three episodes. I finally caught up over the weekend, and uh, 1318 01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:15,399 that's a show that to me, when you look for the last bastioning of 1319 01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:18,399 you really can't say that on TV, but they're going to push the envelope. 1320 01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:24,520 That's the one more than any other. I think there were a couple 1321 01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:29,039 of things. And granted I had some of these chocolate covered thc whatever they 1322 01:29:29,079 --> 01:29:31,960 were, and I think they were five milligrams each and I went one, 1323 01:29:32,239 --> 01:29:38,079 two and then I did I did a third one, So everything was a 1324 01:29:38,119 --> 01:29:41,119 little bit funnier. Maybe they just mallowed you out. It was not. 1325 01:29:41,159 --> 01:29:44,439 I wasn't going anywhere. I was home, but uh, this is some 1326 01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:51,399 Curb You again. Now this guy JB. Smooth is coming to the comedy 1327 01:29:51,399 --> 01:29:57,119 Club in a couple of weeks. He's doing like maybe two shows. I'm 1328 01:29:57,119 --> 01:30:00,319 not sure how many shows, but tickets. If they're not they're gonna go. 1329 01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:03,840 And that's who you're hearing. Does those Crown Rail Vanilla Commerce you got 1330 01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:08,800 it? And he used to do the uh with the Manning family. He 1331 01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:12,479 also did the whatever the yeah the Caesar he was Caesar, Yeah, he 1332 01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:15,319 was Caesar Cooper's my favorite. Yes. So here is this is JB. 1333 01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:23,520 Smooth And it's basically that he's butt dialing Larry's butt dialing him. Seein you 1334 01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:29,239 again? Fourth time today? Jeez? Another butt dial man. I'm sorry, 1335 01:30:29,319 --> 01:30:30,880 it puts me in the best spot, puts you puts me in the 1336 01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:34,520 worst spot. Because I called the guy last week. I hadn't spoken to 1337 01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:38,319 him in fourteen years, and so I got to pretend that I was calling 1338 01:30:38,359 --> 01:30:40,359 him right and then the next thing you know, you have him dinner. 1339 01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:44,119 See me. I'll carry my phone in my front pocket, so sometimes I 1340 01:30:44,239 --> 01:30:48,359 dig dial people by mistake. Oh one time I ordered a pizza by mistake. 1341 01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:51,319 The shoulders up? What is this? You ordered a pieza earlier? 1342 01:30:51,560 --> 01:31:00,960 Wow? Fucking dick that's sometime I hear my dick dollar the number. Try 1343 01:31:00,039 --> 01:31:03,920 watching that while you're a little bit stone exactly. Do you know what I 1344 01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:06,960 mean? You know what I mean? You know what I do? You 1345 01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:15,119 know what I mean? He's dick tiled, dick tiled. And then Larry 1346 01:31:15,359 --> 01:31:18,000 also in one of the episodes, because I watched the first three pulled, 1347 01:31:18,319 --> 01:31:27,800 pulled to something that's me for uh for his uh manager's wife's birthday, Susie's 1348 01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:32,880 birthday, somebody gets her a dog. Actually it's Larry's ex wife and Ted 1349 01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:39,000 Danson show up and they bring her the cutest little puppy. So they're out 1350 01:31:39,079 --> 01:31:44,680 playing golf and it's uhin is. They're out behind his manager's house and they 1351 01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:48,880 hear like the howling of a kyote or something and the yelping of a dog 1352 01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:54,119 and kyo, and he goes, what if we're like right behind my house? 1353 01:31:54,159 --> 01:31:57,720 What if that's what if that's the puppy and it's and Larry goes, 1354 01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:00,039 what are you gonna do? It's a beautiful day, sons out we're playing 1355 01:32:00,039 --> 01:32:02,520 golf. What are you gonna do? You're gonna get back there? And 1356 01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:05,520 and for what the misery that the dog's dead. It's not like you could 1357 01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:09,800 save the dog, right, you might as to just stay here. And 1358 01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:13,680 then later on it comes up in conversation and she said, and she overhears 1359 01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:15,840 them and she's like, you said up a bit, you would come home. 1360 01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:18,119 But it's my point. It's like, what do you canna do? 1361 01:32:18,319 --> 01:32:21,439 Right said? Nothing you can't do, so might as well enjoy what you're 1362 01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:26,039 doing. It's funny, is terrible, Like I feel like they have to 1363 01:32:26,039 --> 01:32:29,159 blame somebody, right, but that But my thing would be like if that 1364 01:32:29,159 --> 01:32:30,439 were the dog, Yes, it's awful. I don't want to see it 1365 01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:35,279 happen. But if I were alcoholic, here's hopefully because they walk into the 1366 01:32:35,279 --> 01:32:41,439 dogs still alive and they're like, oh, it's alive. But then there 1367 01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:44,840 was this moment too that made me laugh really really hard. And this is 1368 01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:46,800 one of these things where you I think you can only get away with it, 1369 01:32:47,119 --> 01:32:50,840 especially in today's climate. If you're Larry David, Wow, this has 1370 01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:56,520 been your education for me on my own. This is leon you know. 1371 01:32:57,159 --> 01:33:00,680 So it's a black neighbor who has it. The has a lemon tree that 1372 01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:05,920 Larry uh. The branches come over on Larry side and Larry takes some lemons 1373 01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:11,039 off the lemon tree. Well the roots are wrapping around like some pipes. 1374 01:33:11,079 --> 01:33:12,880 So the guy's like, look, I got to get rid of it. 1375 01:33:13,239 --> 01:33:15,640 But since you take some of the lemons, he wants to split the cost 1376 01:33:16,199 --> 01:33:19,640 of the removal of the tree. Okay, okay, so it's gonna be 1377 01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:24,720 like twelve or thirteen hundred each because like twenty seven hundred to take the tree 1378 01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:28,319 down. So he's in there. He's a but he's a black guy. 1379 01:33:28,359 --> 01:33:30,760 He lives next door. And then Leon's a black guy, and so this 1380 01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:33,760 is what happens. Wow, this has been your education for me on my 1381 01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:40,920 own. Oh this is Leon, you know, Dwayne our neighbor. Oh 1382 01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:43,600 yeah, he gets a brother right away. Yes, we do. Every 1383 01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:45,399 black person you meet, you say brother too, Hey brother, say brother 1384 01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:48,520 and you give him on what right do? Uh huh yeah you do respectful 1385 01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:53,159 not not is like our Aloha, I don't do a June nod. Guy's 1386 01:33:53,159 --> 01:33:57,359 got that song already hates you. No, No, let's hey June j 1387 01:33:58,119 --> 01:34:01,000 anyway, Dwayne, let's have that adult discussion. Maybe it was funnier to 1388 01:34:01,079 --> 01:34:05,920 me because I was and he goes, you got that song? Hey jew, 1389 01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:12,560 He goes, No, it's Hey, Jude, I couldn't stop haling, 1390 01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:16,840 but I go where else are you seeing anybody acknowledge? Like, hey 1391 01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:19,920 yeah, black guy, Yeah that's what black guys do to black guys. 1392 01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:23,960 Yeah yeah, Like there is this thing but we won't talk about it. 1393 01:34:24,399 --> 01:34:28,560 But he's he's just remember when he hosted Saturday Night Live and he got in 1394 01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:31,560 trouble for talking about trying to pick up women at the Holocaust. Do you 1395 01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:35,640 remember, Oh yeah, uh yes, And so he got a lot of 1396 01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:38,560 it, but he'd be's like, I'm chewings. Well, he did a 1397 01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:44,720 whole bit on taking the sneak. There was an episode where Larry Larry, 1398 01:34:45,319 --> 01:34:49,399 There's there's a Holocaust museum. He's at the Holocaust Museum and there's this pile 1399 01:34:49,439 --> 01:34:59,000 of sneakers and for whatever reason, he needs sneakers there off the Holocaust Museums. 1400 01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:04,880 Thing basically go mom and jew. But it's all this stuff that I 1401 01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:08,920 just think, you can't can't, you can't talk about him. We put 1402 01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:12,640 these rules. It's funny, that's funny. There was this one episode where 1403 01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:16,800 these two lesbian couple want to adopt an Asian baby, and he comes up 1404 01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:23,079 with these name ideas that sound Asian to him, and he's like rationalizing the 1405 01:35:23,119 --> 01:35:26,199 whole thing, and these women are ticked off at him, but he thinks 1406 01:35:26,199 --> 01:35:30,640 he's doing him a favor. But explain it to him. I mean, 1407 01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:35,960 so if that show will actually push those envelopes that we can't really push anymore, 1408 01:35:36,199 --> 01:35:39,239 well, I think that's what makes it even funnier. I's like, 1409 01:35:39,279 --> 01:35:43,119 I can't believe he really said that. Yes, And but at the same 1410 01:35:43,159 --> 01:35:45,199 time, I wonder would it leads to a discussion. Is it a little 1411 01:35:45,239 --> 01:35:51,600 more authentic and honest than what we're what we deal with on a daily basis. 1412 01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:56,680 Absolutely, I think though the Okay, this is going to be judgmental, 1413 01:35:56,760 --> 01:35:59,399 Dan here, here we go. But I think that the powers that 1414 01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:03,159 be one want us to be trapped with those parameters so that they can keep 1415 01:36:03,279 --> 01:36:06,640 power, or maintain power, or accuse you of people in other words, 1416 01:36:08,079 --> 01:36:10,920 we don't They don't want us to have an honest discussion so they can accuse 1417 01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:15,600 you of racism when you say something that you didn't know could be racist, 1418 01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:18,000 or if you get into that position. They don't want us discussing this. 1419 01:36:18,359 --> 01:36:23,960 They want to keep It's almost like they want the opposite of what the sixties 1420 01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:26,800 were supposed to stand for, which is to bring people together. They want 1421 01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:30,680 us, they want to separate people. Now, who's they? They the 1422 01:36:31,239 --> 01:36:33,880 elitists, the ones who want to contrive. I don't want to get into 1423 01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:38,199 all this. Here we go, here we go. This is what's ruining 1424 01:36:38,279 --> 01:36:42,279 your life. Look, there are many people. Again they're gonna go. 1425 01:36:42,359 --> 01:36:45,560 Danny's right, Yeah, Danny's right. They are right. This is a 1426 01:36:45,319 --> 01:36:51,800 thing. And my thinking on it is who are they and why aren't we? 1427 01:36:53,119 --> 01:36:56,560 And why aren't we just having the discussion? We should have the discason 1428 01:36:56,600 --> 01:37:01,159 one? But why are we allowing them to prevent us? There are certain 1429 01:37:01,159 --> 01:37:03,880 things. Yes, you get uncomfortable. You don't want to upset people. 1430 01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:10,399 We don't want to set people off or or make them feel as though, 1431 01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:14,680 hey, you know, because it is offensive some of the well like Archie 1432 01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:17,640 Bunker, well you know colors. Yeah, okay, that's not such. 1433 01:37:18,279 --> 01:37:24,680 We don't need that's horrible. But this stuff was funny where you're recognizing that 1434 01:37:25,199 --> 01:37:29,640 is that what black guys do? Yeah, I think those things are discussions 1435 01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:33,640 that I think could happen. And yeah, there's a certain recognition and I 1436 01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:38,479 don't know, it's like going into like seeing your frap brother or something I 1437 01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:42,560 assume. Yeah, I mean I would love I would welcome stuff like that, 1438 01:37:43,159 --> 01:37:46,279 this type of discussion, it really is. But I love the Dictyle 1439 01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:55,600 didzza and my Dick ordered pizza and then the hey juw no, it's hate 1440 01:37:55,680 --> 01:38:00,680 juw oh. I thought you had your own song that maybe because it's and 1441 01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:05,279 a lot of this stuff is improvd and and who knows, maybe some people 1442 01:38:05,319 --> 01:38:09,239 may not like this show or appreciate this show whatever. It's been on for 1443 01:38:09,279 --> 01:38:12,359 twelve seasons. This is the final season. Do you ever wish that we 1444 01:38:12,399 --> 01:38:15,359 could have like remember like they used to have Handy and Colmes and you know, 1445 01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:19,720 Sean Hendy was far right and Colmes was far left, but they would 1446 01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:23,920 have a discussion, yes, But eventually that got replaced by that cross talk 1447 01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:27,079 show with Tucker Carlson at the time, and I forgot who the other guy 1448 01:38:27,159 --> 01:38:29,840 was, and then John Stewart went on and then ripped both of them, 1449 01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:34,359 and then we never had those types of shows again afterward, because John Stewart 1450 01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:39,680 said that you guys really don't argue about real points or take it really seriously. 1451 01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:43,399 You're just like upholding each other's talking points for that matter, And we 1452 01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:46,319 never get any real dialogue. So then CNN decided we're not doing this, 1453 01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:50,279 and Fox decided we're not doing Handy and Colmes anymore, and so we don't 1454 01:38:50,319 --> 01:38:55,079 get those discussions. We're gonna say that the power was John Stewart that ruined 1455 01:38:55,079 --> 01:38:58,199 it. I don't know if it was or not. But we haven't seen 1456 01:38:58,239 --> 01:39:01,760 anything like that anymore. We don't. We don't get that. We don't 1457 01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:06,119 get it. They try, they try it sometimes on some of the show 1458 01:39:06,199 --> 01:39:10,039 they try to You're right there. I don't think there's one show aimed at 1459 01:39:10,079 --> 01:39:13,600 that. I mean, think about all the personnalities who go after each other 1460 01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:16,520 in sports radio and in talk radio, talk television and sports television that why 1461 01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:20,079 don't you guys just sit down hash it out. I'll do it. Well, 1462 01:39:20,239 --> 01:39:23,039 why don't you come on my show? No, no, you come 1463 01:39:23,079 --> 01:39:27,560 on my show? But they love it because like they just keep feeding our 1464 01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:30,800 audience, man, just keep feeding. And I think we need these discussions. 1465 01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:32,960 I think we need to have a dialogue. I think we'd be further 1466 01:39:33,039 --> 01:39:36,880 along. I have thought that too, but the question is like how and 1467 01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:43,680 with whom and what what's going to be and uh things things have changed over 1468 01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:47,399 the years. I think that I don't know for the better in terms of 1469 01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:51,439 some some situations and in other's not I think have made it harder to have 1470 01:39:51,479 --> 01:39:57,159 a discussion about these things. I think it's uh. I think that there's 1471 01:39:57,159 --> 01:40:03,279 some things I always I go back to this, if you want to unify, 1472 01:40:03,439 --> 01:40:08,199 sometimes you've got to call out some of the ugliness. And some of 1473 01:40:08,239 --> 01:40:15,359 the ugliness automatically makes people fight away. It's racist or whatever. Okay, 1474 01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:19,279 but if you want to have the discussion and kind of you got to get 1475 01:40:19,279 --> 01:40:21,960 the ugly stuff out of there, and maybe you'd find at the base that 1476 01:40:23,039 --> 01:40:28,479 most people have the same humanity. I think that there are people that feel 1477 01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:34,640 like they that certain groups of people get a better opportunity in this country than 1478 01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:41,560 others. In other words, I didn't get affirmative action. That's bullshit. 1479 01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:45,880 I didn't get this. I didn't get that, and don't I don't know. 1480 01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:49,000 I never think about it. I did an anniversary present. Okay, 1481 01:40:49,319 --> 01:40:53,600 I don't think about it, and I'm not saying that. Yeah, I'm 1482 01:40:53,600 --> 01:40:57,319 sure there are people who are very frustrated that they didn't hit the threshold in 1483 01:40:57,359 --> 01:41:00,479 someone who Okay, I don't know. I don't know what to tell you. 1484 01:41:01,199 --> 01:41:04,760 I think it was trying to give people an opportunity that never had an 1485 01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:10,039 opportunity, right, So that's why we had those things. I don't know, 1486 01:41:10,119 --> 01:41:15,159 but these are discussions that people build up inside of people and build up 1487 01:41:15,199 --> 01:41:18,239 inside of people till they're so angry about it that it's going to ruin everything, 1488 01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:21,359 right, and then we don't have the discussion, and so it leads 1489 01:41:21,399 --> 01:41:25,920 to nothing. But if you could vent your frustration about it, well, 1490 01:41:26,199 --> 01:41:30,319 I'm told I can't, I can't say anything. Well, maybe try to 1491 01:41:30,319 --> 01:41:32,279 find a different way to say the same thing. Coming to like a bowl 1492 01:41:32,319 --> 01:41:34,359 in the china shop. As my mother used to say, you're like a 1493 01:41:34,359 --> 01:41:41,039 bone of china shop. Isn't plan to state analogy seeds? Well, just 1494 01:41:41,159 --> 01:41:44,560 like have a conversation with somebody and go, hey, look I feel like 1495 01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:47,359 this. You feel like that, you tell me, or maybe I'll see 1496 01:41:47,359 --> 01:41:53,600 it differently. I don't know right what we'll end it with this. Tom 1497 01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:59,720 Brady, one of the greatest, worked really hard, right, worked really 1498 01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:02,000 hard all his life, greatest American athlete of all time, said that his 1499 01:42:02,359 --> 01:42:09,520 over Jordan trying, I mean like even becoming the starter at Michigan. And 1500 01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:14,359 then the next year Drew Henson's coming along and you gottaf you gotta hold him 1501 01:42:14,359 --> 01:42:15,880 off, and the coach came to him, and there's a lot of I 1502 01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:18,479 was a Michigan fan. There's a lot of promise in Henson too, and 1503 01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:24,039 I think there were a lot of people saying, ooh uh, the first 1504 01:42:24,119 --> 01:42:27,880 quarter is you, second quarter is Henson? And at halftime, I'm going 1505 01:42:27,960 --> 01:42:30,840 to make my decision as to who the starter is. I think it's how 1506 01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:33,199 the story went for his senior or his fifth year, his fifth year, 1507 01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:38,239 and then he was, you know one, well, Tom Brady for a 1508 01:42:38,239 --> 01:42:42,640 lot of people, the underdog, the ultimate underdog. And now it's coming 1509 01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:46,439 out that could I don't know how true this is, but it's from the 1510 01:42:46,439 --> 01:42:50,680 New York Post via the Daily Mail. Who just I mean, these two 1511 01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:55,279 papers will get down in the mud, will find the ugliness. But this 1512 01:42:55,319 --> 01:43:02,319 says it's talking about the split and the fact that Gizelle now has her jiu 1513 01:43:02,439 --> 01:43:09,640 jitsu. Her jiu jitsu instructor is now her. I guess his name is 1514 01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:15,520 Valente. All right, So Gizelle, Bunching and Valente did not begin dating 1515 01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:21,159 until June twenty twenty three, eight months after Brady and Gizelle had finalized their 1516 01:43:21,199 --> 01:43:26,319 divorce, and a source told The Daily Mail, if she wants to have 1517 01:43:26,399 --> 01:43:30,680 people think she has been dating Joaquim I believe is his name only since June, 1518 01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:33,279 so be it. But they have been together longer and they are aren't 1519 01:43:33,279 --> 01:43:39,119 taking it slow. Tom has accepted it. A lot of times, relationships 1520 01:43:39,199 --> 01:43:47,039 overlap for people, right like you know, yeah, yeah, okay, 1521 01:43:47,239 --> 01:43:51,880 they overlap, like you're you just found something that was better. Yeah. 1522 01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:58,079 I was the husband on the side. She said something like, he's our 1523 01:43:58,119 --> 01:44:00,479 teacher. Most importantly, he's a person I had meyer and that I trust. 1524 01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:03,199 It's so good to have that kind of energy, to have my kids 1525 01:44:03,199 --> 01:44:05,880 around that type of energy. She told that to Vanity Fair in March of 1526 01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:12,000 twenty twenty three. And so the question is, uh, I don't know 1527 01:44:12,079 --> 01:44:16,479 that Tom has had anything to do with this article or not, but everybody 1528 01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:21,359 has this thing. He was never around no. His focus was football trument, 1529 01:44:21,520 --> 01:44:26,720 I mean insanely. So his thing was, I have to do everything. 1530 01:44:27,279 --> 01:44:29,880 Everybody's going to do the same thing. I got to do something a 1531 01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:31,920 little bit more. He always a little bit mentality of being the one and 1532 01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:36,119 ninety ninth player taken in that draft I guess he always had the mentality of 1533 01:44:36,159 --> 01:44:42,199 being looked over at Michigan but drew. But it cost him his marriage potentially 1534 01:44:42,319 --> 01:44:45,600 potentially too arguably the most beautiful woman in the world. That's which beauty's in 1535 01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:50,439 the guy the holder, right, But sure, and so I don't I 1536 01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:55,720 don't know what the lesson is, but always know there's a price, is 1537 01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:58,520 my point death ped you're going to ask yourself was it worth it? But 1538 01:44:58,760 --> 01:45:01,359 even with the with Tom Brady, I mean that makes him a little more 1539 01:45:01,439 --> 01:45:04,239 human, right, all of a sudden, now we go, wait a 1540 01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:12,680 second, Giselle and the jiu jitsu instructor were wrestling on the mat more before 1541 01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:15,960 June of twenty twenty three or whatever it was. Yeah, probably probably, 1542 01:45:16,239 --> 01:45:20,159 And I'm sure was it twenty two? I don't know. I mean well 1543 01:45:20,159 --> 01:45:24,680 because remember like it was twenty two tom Brady played last season, remember that 1544 01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:27,640 summer where he missed like nine days of training campers, Oh, he's gotta 1545 01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:30,479 be on the on the on the mask singer. Yeah, and we found 1546 01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:34,079 out yes, sweet is So that's probably when maybe h Yeah, it does 1547 01:45:34,159 --> 01:45:38,680 humanize him a little, that humanizes everybody. Could best have men are men 1548 01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:41,479 at best? Yes, that's what you can relate to. Yes, it 1549 01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:44,920 doesn't matter how much money or to be cheated you don't like, but you 1550 01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:48,119 don't like having this out there or known. Right. Tom's not gonna say 1551 01:45:48,119 --> 01:45:51,359 anything, He's gonna be above that, but you know, and who knows 1552 01:45:51,399 --> 01:45:55,399 what he did? I mean, I've so I've been studying a lot of 1553 01:45:55,479 --> 01:45:59,039 Christian writers lately, just influencers. I guess you could call him right over 1554 01:45:59,079 --> 01:46:01,279 the time. And I've what I've found from them. Jesus was a great 1555 01:46:01,359 --> 01:46:06,800 Christian influence. He was the best God in the flesh. But what I've 1556 01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:11,520 read about a lot of these guys is that they were all highly flawed people 1557 01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:15,279 in some cases, and like it's some and at one point, there's one 1558 01:46:15,319 --> 01:46:16,359 I'm not gonna say his name, well I could say his name is a 1559 01:46:16,479 --> 01:46:21,319 w tozer aw Toaster was never around for his seven kids because he was so 1560 01:46:21,359 --> 01:46:27,239 busy being a missionary that when he came home, he was working on his 1561 01:46:27,279 --> 01:46:30,720 next mission instead of raising his kids. And it's like, if you can't 1562 01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:36,800 take care of your kids and your family, then what's the point of evangelizing 1563 01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:41,439 the world. And now it reached a lot of people though, so It's 1564 01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:44,399 one of those things where Okay, I'm not the scene of God, but 1565 01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:48,159 like the point is even the man with the best of intentions failed somewhere. 1566 01:46:48,680 --> 01:46:51,640 Right. I'm not saying Tom Brady failed in his marriage, but it sounds 1567 01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:57,239 like he spent a lot more time in football doing football than somebody. And 1568 01:46:57,279 --> 01:47:00,600 here goes the jiu jitsu guy and making her feel good and safe and comfortable, 1569 01:47:00,640 --> 01:47:04,319 and they build up a relationship, and maybe she complains about Tommy's never 1570 01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:06,279 round. Do they have one of those scenes where, like you know in 1571 01:47:06,319 --> 01:47:10,359 the movies where he's showing her, he's instructing her, and he's getting a 1572 01:47:10,359 --> 01:47:13,359 little close. No, you want to fight like this, Oh, how's 1573 01:47:13,359 --> 01:47:15,359 it? How's it go? She ever see couples retreat? Yeah, the 1574 01:47:15,399 --> 01:47:18,600 movie and they're doing the yoga and stuff and he goes like this like yeah, 1575 01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:21,560 yeah, yeah, right right, getting right into it. All right, 1576 01:47:21,680 --> 01:47:29,039 Well, wrap it up for our Monday episode. For Dan Barrillo thirty 1577 01:47:29,119 --> 01:47:32,319 years ago, What's Nangry as he is Today's eighth grade Man. Ninety four 1578 01:47:32,399 --> 01:47:36,079 was a great year. It was also a very controversial year. Yes it 1579 01:47:36,279 --> 01:47:43,039 was, yes, see you're I graduated in Saint John Fishing University, my 1580 01:47:43,199 --> 01:47:45,479 bil Moran. We'll see you tomorrow. Old damn didn't know what to do.