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Yo remembered dummy beer. It's the
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for the next hour or so.
Let me help you sort through the world

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of gaming on Game Mess Mornings Live
with Me Jeff Grub Today, Sonic's true

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enemy is sadness, and hyenas are
the dolphins of the land. But first

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join me and welcome me today's co
host to Game Mess Mornings. It's Jano

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Choa from Giant Bomb. Everybody,
I really love that rooster calling and the

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intro there me too, gets me
going, and all the standby abusing just

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like the yummy yummy and all that
stuff just kind of stringed in there.

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It's really good stuff. I'm very
I'm very into it. But then yeah,

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the cock call, it's morning,
it's time to talk about video games.

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I'm really into it as well.
So so Jan, you've been getting

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back onto your running schedules. What
you were telling me, how's that?

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How's that going for you? Because
I'm I just moved, and I was

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right before we moved, I was
on a great schedule of getting on the

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treadmill, setting it to that really
high angle and setting it to like three

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point five miles per hour and just
going for like twenty thirty minutes. I

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was doing that every day, and
it's like, Okay, this is like

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really good for me. It's the
right amount of time I can like commit

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to this, and it's it's like
hard enough that I feel like it's a

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really good workout. But I brought
the treadmill and everything, so it's here,

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it's set up in the basement,
and I have not gotten back on

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that yet, So like, what
got you back on I think having a

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little bit more time now, you
know, with more folks on staff,

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don't have to worry about all the
plates spinning or the house being on fire.

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So I was like, you know
what, everyone got it today,

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I'm just gonna take a quick,
like half hour go for a run.

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And then I got ten minutes into
it and I felt like I was going

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to die. Yeah, right,
exactly, That's what I'm like. It's

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also, we've gone from Colorado dry
what heat, to living ten feet from

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lakey Year and I might as well
live inside of lakey or how humid it

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is here. And so my wife, who works out every day is like

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talking about like it's much harder here. I'm like, okay, well,

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I gotta brace myself and get back
into it. But I don't know.

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I'll fight some time for that after
we talk about video games. So before

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we get into the game mess,
it's explain ourselves and what we do here

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each week, weekday, I,
Jeff Greb, will help piece your gaming

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life back together. That includes bringing
you breaking news, the catch up where

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we discuss the biggest topics of the
day, and maybe even bring some of

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our original reporting from GameSpot myself elsewhere. We'll see for all these topics,

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I will get the input of a
bona fide expert who will make me look

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smart. That's that's Jano Chowa and
if I'm just prepending. And of course,

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find the show. Alright, let's let's

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get into this mess and news.
I feel like there's only one place to

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start here and it was with my
apology to Hyenas everywhere for not immediately recognizing

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that that's what that sound was.
Jan do you know what I'm talking about?

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Here? Were you paying attention to? Okay? All right? So

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yes, I tuned into the game
mess morning yesterday and hearing you and Lucy

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argue about a sound and then her
low key dissing you, yes, about

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Elphins. Oh yeah, totally warmed
my heart. Yeah, it seemed about

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right. And you know what,
in the end, she was proven once

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again to be correct about that.
I'll read this this headline here. This

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is Hyenas is a new multiplayer sci
fi heist shooter from the team behind Alien

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Isolation. This is by Gray spin
Fell at game Spot, Creative Assembly,

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the strategy game giant and creator of
Total War, and publisher Sega have announced

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a new game, Hyenas. Hyenas
is a team based shooter tasking player with

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robbing high tech vaults on massive space
freighters and then escaping the scene of the

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crime. In concept, Hyenas is
a Battle Royal adjacent drawing from Apex Legends

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and Hunt Showdown. Each match has
fifteen players split into three teams of five

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and let's say in Players also have
to contend with NPC enemies and security systems.

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Since the game takes place in space, some areas are in zero gravity,

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others have a zero gravity switch,
allowing players to get the upper hand

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on enemies or get themselves into a
whole lot of trouble. The goal is

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to pick up as much loot as
possible, but rather than money or precious

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metals, the loot is made up
of pop culture artifacts. A Sonic figuring,

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a Rubic's Cube, and various New
York City related memorabilia. All make

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it appearance in Hyena's debut trailers.
So just sounds like you are going to

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collect a bunch of junk and apparently
it's worth something in this magical future.

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To me, this actually sounds like
that Viking game that came out and no

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one cared about a little bit ago, where it was like two groups of

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Vikings and then they were all player
characters, and then there was a treasure

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inside the building and the two groups
had to like get inside the building and

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get the same treasure, and then
the treasure was guarded by ai AI MPCs,

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and then occasionally if the two teams
ran into each other, they would

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fight each other, but mostly was
about trying to like find ways to sneak

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into this building. It sounds pretty
similar to that, so I'm I'm like,

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okay, I like, I guess
I like some of this, this

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concept, but also a team based
shooter in space, and especially after that

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that Jeff Keaeley show, a lot
of these things are feeling very very familiar

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and well run territory at this point, Jam, what do you think?

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Yeah, I just scanned through the
trailer now and it I don't know what

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to make of it because I believe
you had said that IGN had said that

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this was supposed to be framed as
like a show stealer type of game.

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That's right, that's correct. And
I don't know if it's quite still on

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the show, because hey, it's
it's kind of late to the show.

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Uh, and and be you know, if you showed me this, if

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I rewatch this trailer maybe a week
two weeks down the line, I don't

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think i'd remember it, right because
of how stylistic it is, but not

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in a not in a standout way, you know, Yeah, I think

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it is. I don't know,
a lot of it feels very wrote to

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me, like we are you're doing
things that are familiar. It looks familiar

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it and and then the ways that
it doesn't it kind of just is generic.

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And and that's why it still is
very famili because it's like this just

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looks like, you know, stand
in video game that we could get from

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anybody. You know, they've been
working on this game. I think they

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said for four years. And I
imagine you know at that time in the

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past like that, like you know
that this this idea probably felt a little

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bit different that long ago, where
it's like, Okay, there isn't a

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lot of these games, and now
there's a lot of ways to go online

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with your friends and cause mayhem and
interact. I mean, we like Gracier

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just listed two games. There's that
Viking game, but there's a million different

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like Battle Royal on Battle royalogjacent games. And I get the urge to be

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like, Okay, there is definitely
something more we could do with this concept

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if we just put our own spin
on it. Uh and maybe the right

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maybe once we play this, we
will be convinced. And that's that's the

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case for any game. But looking
at the trailer, looking at what they're

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they're promising here and it doesn't help
that they did make those big lofty set

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those They set those lofty expectations saying
this is gonna be the steal, the

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show stealing thing. But coming out
of it, seeing the trailer, I'm

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just like, I'm not I'm not
feeling the urge to be like, oh,

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I have to play this now.
This is the kind of thing where

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I'm gonna have to wait and see
what other people say. I'll let other

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people try it, and if a
big swelling momentum happens where everyone's like,

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oh, yeah, everyone's playing this
and it's the greatest, it's the top

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thing on Steam right now. Yeah, I'll check in on it. But

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right now I'm ready to I'm already
ready to forget it. Yeah. I'd

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be happy to be wrong by by
all means, because I'd want all games

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to be successful in an ideal world. Right. I lost my train of

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thought. Oh, oh, okay. I don't mean to disparage the developers,

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because four years is a very long
term of working and plugging time into

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a game. But I say this, I don't mean to be mean,

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but I understand this reminds me of
a vague This looks like it would be

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a random Ubisoft game that dies like
six to eight months after launch, right,

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one of those ones that just feels
like, you know, they announced

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it, like we're trying this thing
because it's a trend and we put it

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out, we're not exactly sure where
it's gonna go, and if it doesn't

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go anywhere, it'll just get yeah, get shuffle, shuffle to the side.

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Now. Still, I think I'm
glad that Sega's like letting Creative Assembly

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do something like this. Creative Assembly
has been a team that has done a

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lot of strategy stuff and that's where
they've been they focus all their energies for

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the most part, and it's it's
like okay, now they are letting them

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stretch their legs and try something new. And from that, from that perspective,

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I really hope it is a success
for them. And you know,

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I think this concept fifteen players split
into three teams robbing spaceships should be like

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something that I'm totally into that is
like okay, you know, just there's

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not like I'm not worried about a
one hundred people, but like there's gonna

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be a lot of tension there where
you're like, okay, where is the

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other team, like we could we
could take out these NPCs, or should

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we set up and let the other
team take out these NPC's and then we

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you know, ambush them. Like
there's just so much cool potential there for

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for gameplay interactions and interactions between the
computer opponents and the human opponents, and

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then you know, you're you are
getting sonic dolls and that's the reward there,

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and that's like a cool concept as
well. There's a lot of things

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that should be working for me,
but it's I don't know, looking at

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the trailer, it was not clicking, So it's like that there's a disconnect

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here somewhere. And usually my stance
of these things is that that's okay in

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early trailers if one second, because
I'm still always reserving judgment until i get

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my hands on it. Even for
trailers that wow me, it's like,

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hey, yeah, I'm wowed by
the trailer, and that's a different thing

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than the video game I'm going to
be playing later. Those feelings I have

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now have little to do with howde'll
feel later. So I'll either I'm gonna

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wait around to what people say.
If it gets any buzz, I'll check

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it out and it might set myself
and who knows him, Maybe I'll fall

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in love with him all right?
Then next up, this is a from

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Ian Flynn, who's one of the
writers on the Sonic series. Sonic Frontiers

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is themed around melancholy, with Sonics
never to say die attitude put to the

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test. This is by Sicker at
my Nintendo News. Sonic the Hedgehog writer

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Ian Flynn has talked to IgM about
the upcoming Sonic Frontiers game, which is

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scheduled to be released on current platforms
including the Nintendo Switch later this year.

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He said that the mysterious Sonic Frontiers
has provided him with a very different approach

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to what he has been used to
writing writing in the past, and that

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it is centered around the feeling of
melancholy and getting through that positively. He

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went on to say that it is
about how the tragedies of the past have

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caught up with Sonic, which has
led him to his new adventure in Frontiers.

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Sonic must remain strong in order to
rescue his friends and collect stolen Chaos

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emeralds. And here's what mister Flynn
had to say. Specifically, Sonic Tales

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and Amy embark for the Starfell Islands
to investigate the disappearance of the Chaos Emeralds.

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Things take a turn for the for
the dramatic immediately, and Sonics is

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left alone with a lot of questions. This is the plot of I'm Sorry.

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This is the plot of Super Mario
Sunshine. The story. The story

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is his journey to uncover all the
mysteries of the islands, rescue his friends,

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and discover how everything ties together.
Should Sonic be allowed to be sad?

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Jan Ochoa answer the question, He's
he's what in his thirties now,

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Yeah, everyone like we're all sad. That's true. Maybe maybe Sonic should

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say I don't know, it's just
it's weird, like okay, maybe it's

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trying to make it more relatable,
I guess, But also just feels like

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Sonic doesn't feel equipped to like,
Okay, he's gonna he's just gonna be

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positive through all this sadness and the
world is destroyed around him, but he's

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got the positive attitude and that's what
the themes of this game. And I'm

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like, okay, well, I
just I want to see fun zones.

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That's what I come to Sonic for. Yeah, you know, I feel

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bad that I I feel that Sonic
can't convey proper emotion and convey like loss

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and empathy because he just goes fast
that he doesn't experience all these emotions.

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It's like if your house was on
fire and a clown showed up. That's

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what it's like. That's what it
feels like. There was just like for

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no other reason than the clown is
just like I need to I need to

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find out if I could still be
happy while your house is on fire.

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I'm like, okay, all right, clown right. That's what it feels

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like to me. I mean because
like there's there have been other anthropomore animal

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like protagonists that can make you feel
things like the Ratchet and Clack games are

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very successful in that of like oh
I feel for you, or like little

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robot adjacent things, but Sonic,
I just don't. I don't, no,

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no. And I think that ties
in with like how much more bummed

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out I am with the overall look
of the game from what we've seen so

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far and what I've seen over people's
shoulders at Summer Game Fest, where now

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hearing that this is the tone they're
going for, they're definitely nailing it.

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But I don't think that tone is
for me. Also, they have a

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sad hedgehog. Just give it the
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deal with it. Yeah, exactly. It's to me, this feels like

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we built this game and this is
what the world looks like, and now

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we're gonna put Sonic into it.
Now, hey, writer, come up

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with the solution for why stuff is
like this is this way? And it's

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like, wow, that looks really
drab and sad. So I guess we're

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gonna have it be a sad,
drab world and Sonic is going to be

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the light that stands against the shadow. And maybe that's way. Maybe he'll

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stand and gets shadow of the Hedgehog. Maybe he will, he will show

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up. But yeah, it just
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sort of the vision like the story
we're talking about Final Fantasy sixteen having like

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this real clear vision of what it
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that just by looking at the trailers
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game. I do not get that
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not at all. I might my
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back on the game if perhaps they
release like a trailer with like a sad

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bastard cover of something and then it
ends up like a robotic or whoever,

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just going like you can't run for
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Uh well, I mean, what
what sad bastard version of a Michael Jackson

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song could they use for this game. Let's just use py t because he's

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gonna kis a lady again. There
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ladies and Sonic the Hedgehog, Eugenaka
confirms that Michael Jackson wrote music for Sonic

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the Hedgehog three. This is by
Darren bom Thus. I think this is

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from game spot as well. The
late Michael Jackson's involvement in the creation of

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Sonic the Hedgehog three's soundtrack has been
a long running rumor in gaming circles,

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and one that co creator Sonics Blue
Blue Blur has confirmed. With the release

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of Sonic Origins, a compilation of
classic Sonic games from modern platforms. Veteran

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game designer game developer Eugenaka commented on
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missing from the game. He tweeted, oh my god, the music for

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Sonic three has changed even though Sega
Official uses Michael Jackson's music, people are

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upset about this. Eugenaka is clearly
kind of a little bit upset about this.

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I just want to play a little
clip here for everybody of of like

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what this sounds like? Is this
really what we y'all are dying on a

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hell for? Okay, come on, everybody, what are we talking about?

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Eric? This is the thing you're
missing? Are okay? That part

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right there actually is kind of nice
now, but I don't think they can

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hear it. Oh, okay,
hang on, I'm gonna get it.

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I'll fix hang on. Let's see. Ah, here comes everybody, it

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d there we go. So this
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right? This is what you like? Yeah? I love this all right?

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Uh that let me wrap this one
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the songs that's been seen. There's
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I don't know. To me,
this is not a great loss for a

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Sonic three. But I don't know
how jan you loving that was? Where

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you feeling that? I was feeling
that, But I don't necessarily need to

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feel that anymore after hearing that again. Let's see he According to creative director

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a creative officer taka Ashi Azuka.
New tracks are arranged by composer June Sinno.

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Have replaced Sonic three soundtrack. As
much of your game's original score has

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been left in an unusable state.
When we're going back and trying to recreate

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all these games from thirty plus years
ago, you get a lot of old

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data that's not really usable, Azuka
told euro Gamer, and music was one

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of those things. We had to
dig up a lot of that old dat

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tapes in order to get the musics
dat tapes. Sorry, no, I

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understand, to get that music that
was on all these games, and June

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Sinyo went in and had to recreate
in a modern format the music that they

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could put on Sonic three and Knuckles
as a final product. Now that's probably

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only maybe half true, where it's
like, yeah, it's yeah, it's

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maybe it's difficult to get some of
these things, but you always just rip

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it off the rom there's ways to
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part, this is probably just having
to do with Michael Jackson and not wanting

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to have the Michael Jackson music in
there anymore. Right on top of that,

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maybe having to pay whatever fees they
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a state, I'd assume, and
chattis iping toky Mickey points out then when

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when you Junaka says that Sega Sonic
Official was using the music, it was

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the TikTok account for Sonic Official using
Michael Jackson music. So it's like they're,

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Okay, we're using Michael Jackson music
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to keep it in Sonic three.
But yeah, this has been a long

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rumored thing, like where it was
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I think it was always kind of
like a soft confirmed. People knew for

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sure that Michael Jackson had worked on
it, but Sega had never confirmed it

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themselves. Well, yeah, that
that seems to be the case, and

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that seems to be the reason they're
taking it out of the game. Xbox

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Cloud Gaming will receive keyboard and mouse
support. This is by Grace Benfel game

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spot Grace showing up a lot today. As has been hinted before, Xbox

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Cloud Streaming will add mouse and keyboard
support to its streaming service. This comes

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several years after the addition of mouse
and keyboard support to Xbox consoles. The

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long anticipated feature was real during a
developer focus talk delivered by Morgan Brown,

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a software engineer at Xbox. During
the presentation, Brown outlined find how the

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Xbox Cloud Gaming team plans to reduce
latency and assist developers and optimizing their games

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resolution and graphics for streaming. He
clarified that mouse and keyboard support for Xbox

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Cloud Gaming is coming and that developers
should work on adding it to their games.

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It will light up in streaming once
we finished adding it. He stated,

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Xbox Cloud Gaming supports Xbox games specifically, so you won't be able to

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use the mouse and keyboard for PC
games. It's just going to be the

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Xbox versions that now work with mouse
and keyboard games, So if you're like

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playing on your phone, like,
it's still going to be the Xbox versions.

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However, this feature does eliminate the
need to have a compatible controller in

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addition to a compatible device, so
if you have keyboard and mouse on your

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laptop or whatever, you could at
least begin playing many of these games,

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even if you don't have a touch
screen for example. So this is not

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for me, but I can imagine
there are like Xbox Cloud streamings coming online

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around the world and in territories that
have traditionally have had a hard time getting

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consoles, Like there's territories throughout South
America with huge tariffs that cause make these

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new systems cost thousands of dollars relatively, And it's the kind of thing where

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it's like, oh, they could
just get online with the computer they already

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have. What's like now they need
a controller and they're gonna have a hard

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time even tracking that down in many
cases. So they already have a keyboard

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and mouse. They're ready to go. So that's a pretty cool addition.

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Yeah. Yeah, the idea of
adding more different inputs to cloud gaming kinds

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of kind of sounds terrifying. Sure, but you know, I'm glad when

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they do add support for stuff because
I know there's a good chunk of people

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that are very jazz and they're like
ringing their bells like it's mighty here.

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Yeah, And it's the kind of
thing where it's like anytime, like the

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problem with cloud streaming is that last
mile problem inside people's homes, Like it's

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they can set up the infrastructure,
the backbone of the internet and prove all

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that stuff. They can put a
data center down the street from your house,

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but once it gets to your house, what happens then? Do you

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have the device that can put it
on your TV or TV that can display

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it? And even if you do, are you comfortable like picking up the

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controller and attaching it with Bluetooth through
your TV? In many cases, I

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think for a lot of people it's
like that's too much work. I'm just

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gonna watch Netflix like that, that
last mile probably just has just enough friction

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that I think it's going to prevent
a lot of people from getting in a

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cloud gaming until it just becomes second
nature. And anytime they can reduce that

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friction by just saying well that works, that works, and this works,

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and now mouse and keyboard works on
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But it's gonna be gains of inches
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Microsoft seems to understand that they're like
in this for the long haul, so

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it's like they don't expect any one
of these things to be like, well,

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and now cloud gaming is the thing
for everybody, So it's cool that

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they're doing this. Yeah, speaking
of Xbox, the Xbox documentary just won

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an Emmy. You can now you
can watch this for free. It's a

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bit on YouTube. But this is
by Chris Carter Destructoid. In case you

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missed it, there's a six episode
Xbox documentary out now that deals with the

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history of the console line, from
the germination of the idea as a brand,

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through the success of Halo into the
Red Rig of Death up until now.

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It's called Power on the Story of
Xbox, and it's an interesting It's

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interesting that since that it's officially sanctioned, so it has all this like inside

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information, but also doesn't hold back
for all its efforts. That actually just

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won a Daytime Emmy for Outstanding Single
Camera Editing, adding another award to the

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production team's repertoire. Now, Jan
you've had some uh but run ins with

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TV production is a Daytime Emmy reel. Yes, okay, there have been

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multiple podcasts that are on YouTube and
stuff that have won Daytime Emmys. I

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think I think it's only a matter
of time till Gamess Mornings, Brings Brings,

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Brings One Home to Giant Bomb.
Yes, it's just any any day

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now if I want a Daytime Emmy, then it's definitely real. Like that's

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at that point we know for sure
it's real and oh yeah, it would

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never be skeptical of the concept.
Ever again, Uh, let's see this.

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This is the last news story we
have here, this one. Thanks

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for the person who sent this to
me. I didn't put your name down

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here, but thank you, every
It was a good one to point out

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a destiny YouTuber who allegedly impersonated Bungee
as being sued by the studio for seven

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point seven million dollars by Tom Ivan
at VGC. Bungee is seeking over seven

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point six five million dollars in damages
from my destiny YouTuber who allegedly and persue

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of the company in order to issue
a series of bogus DMCA strikes against fellow

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content creators. This is a wild
one, everybody. So just I got

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some tweets here from someone who is
the victim of this person, and you

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just got to see him to believe
him. In a revision of its original

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complaint, which was spotted by the
Gamer Post, the defendant has been named

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as Nick Minor aka YouTube Lord Nazo. This is now The original complaint was

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Bungee also suing YouTube and saying YouTube, your system is way too easy to

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exploit and you need to take responsibility
for this. So then everyone's like yes,

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please, thank you for doing this, Bungee. But now they're also

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naming the person who took advantage of
the system. Last is. In December,

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the YouTube channel of Lordo was issued
a takedown notice after publishing music from

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the original soundtrack for the Destiny expansion, the Take in King, which Bungee

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said infringed copyrights and violated his policy
on fan use of intellectual property. Rather

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than remove the video, Miner is
alleged to have left it online until YouTube

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deleted in January. Bungee claims that, seemingly in retaliation for all of that,

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Minor created fake Gmail accounts in order
to pose as the studio's brand protection

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vendor CSC and send out a wave
of fraudulent takedown notices targeting videos posted by

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members of the Destiny community, including
my name is bife Aztec Cross the Phoenix,

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and Prometheum. And then he also
basically went in and gaslet everyone in

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this community. So let me get
these these tweets here. This is wild.

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So if this is from one of
the people who was targeted by him,

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Owen Spence, he said he invited
us to a discord to talk about

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this, and he said stuff like
and I'll read this for people listening to

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the Universion. This is from Lord
Nazo in this discord. The fact that

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it's that easy makes it very likely
for someone to just abuse the system.

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Hell, you could make a Google
account right now, go to YouTube studio

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and submit a takedown request on any
video you want. Yep. YouTube has

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the most bullshit copyright takedown system ever. It's so brain dead simple that even

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a child could submit a takedown and
request without needing any proof of authorization.

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I believe someone is impersonating him.
I still don't think it's CSC. And

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it's like, again, this is
the person who is doing all of this

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basically just telling on themselves. Uh, this is this is I get that,

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like U like the serial killers always
want to be caught, is like

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this thing that happens in movies.
But this feels like, please catch me.

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I'm doing this exact thing right,
Like it's one hundred percent that right,

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Like I'm getting away with it.
I'm gonna leave some breadcrumb trails here.

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And I get the idiot and I
get that he's like mad at Bungee

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for targeting him and then not targeting
some of these other creators like that's what

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it seems like this was happening here. He's like, I'm gonna go claim

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these other things that are doing the
same thing I was doing and they're not

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getting in trouble. But then like
he's like, oh well, YouTube system

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is so bright, Like YouTube system
being easy to exploit was never a problem

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for him. It only became a
problem when he, at least in this

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group of people, when he started
doing it to other people. His beef

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was always with Bungee, like,
you know, singling him out or whatever.

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He were like. Also in this
discord, I mean, anyone could

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make an email like first first name, last name at gmail dot com.

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It's definitely a fraud. Uh yeah, it's the people like and then he

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said to everyone else, Yeah,
it's the people like us who suffered,

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the little guys or just anyone a
fewer the two hundred and fifty thousand YouTube

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subscribers and one hundred thousand Twitter followers, excuse me. This is the person

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that Owen Spence, who was targeted
here, says that they feel betrayed and

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unbelievably upset that someone we knew and
trusted would do this. Literally, almost

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all Destiny music on YouTube is gone
because of this. Yeah, Jesus,

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that's a wild thing. That's the
epitome of like one bad apple ruining the

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bunch. But like in this case, like now we're going to uproot the

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whole tree and destroy this whole orchard. Yep, what ass I'm sorry,

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But when you have to, you
have to. Uh. It's the kind

404
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of Yeah, it's kind of thing
like people to get to do retaliation.

405
00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:18.720
Human beings have this sense of like
it's worth it at all costs, Like

406
00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:22.480
I'll hurt myself and others if I
could just get that sweet taste of revenge.

407
00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:26.839
And it's but it's the kind of
thing where like once people have like

408
00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:30.559
have a chance to step outside themselves
and see how they're behaving, they're like,

409
00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:33.559
Okay, no, we have to
stop this. This is of course

410
00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:37.480
not acceptable, and really it's not
worth what it's doing to me. It

411
00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:41.960
just seems like, nowhere along the
line did this person have that internal like

412
00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:48.559
reflection on their behavior. Yeah,
I mean I hope that I hope that

413
00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:52.759
Bungee is able to get some punishment
for this person. Really, though,

414
00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:57.720
the main issue here continues to be
that YouTube system is so easy to exploit,

415
00:27:57.799 --> 00:28:02.559
and YouTube does not seem interested in
fixing that at all, because who

416
00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:04.400
are they at risk of being sued
by more? It is by the copyright

417
00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:08.720
holders, not by someone who gets
struck by a fraudulent copyright claim. Bungee

418
00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:14.160
is trying to reverse that and put
the pressure in a different directions so that

419
00:28:14.200 --> 00:28:17.200
YouTube's like, oh, well,
now we are getting sued for this flaw

420
00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:19.160
in our system, so now we
do have motivation to fix it. Who

421
00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:22.519
knows if that actually ends up happening, but that should be the case,

422
00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:29.359
right, yeah, one percent.
It's you know, we live on YouTube,

423
00:28:29.400 --> 00:28:33.559
and thankfully we don't live and die
based on YouTube numbers and performance there.

424
00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:37.319
But like there have been multiple times
where even just posting a video,

425
00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:42.400
we'll get it like a copyright claim
and it will have, as far as

426
00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:49.160
I can tell, nothing that could
be considered a copyright infringement. But somehow

427
00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:55.680
even trying to bring it back to
YouTube and say like, yo, we

428
00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:59.400
need you to remove this from this
video, only to reach it like a

429
00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:03.799
blank or just like a bot,
and you just run in a circles like

430
00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:07.519
the bot, misunderstanding you, right, and never getting redirected to an actual

431
00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:12.240
person. It's it's incredibly frustrating.
So yeah, and for folks that made

432
00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:17.640
their living on being like a destiny
YouTuber or content creator, it's this must

433
00:29:17.720 --> 00:29:22.480
be like an absolute nightmare and just
incredibly disheartening. Yeah again, what an

434
00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:29.079
ass, Yes, a complete ass. In my in my experience with YouTube,

435
00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:32.759
I've had issues where I would make
a video and then someone else would

436
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:34.559
use clips to that video, and
then they would turn on their the bot

437
00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:37.319
to like, you know, content
I d and then my video would get

438
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:41.000
flagged. I'm like, are you
are you kidding me? Like that's yeah,

439
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:45.519
like it just should never work that
way. That's incredibly inconvenient at the

440
00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:51.359
like the minimum and sort of like
aggressive and unnecessarily like pushing people off your

441
00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:55.039
platform like at the maximum. And
it's like, uh, but YouTube has

442
00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:59.359
so many content creators that just sort
of have continue to push through that they're

443
00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:00.440
like, hey, if we you
know, frustrate one or two and they

444
00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:03.720
get burned out because they're dealing with
these awful systems, well there's always another

445
00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:07.160
one to fill their spot. It's
kind of how it feels. So and

446
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:08.559
it's like, really, there's not
a lot of other options out there for

447
00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:12.000
if you want to create video content
on the web and get decently paid.

448
00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:17.519
There is one basic option and it
is YouTube. Yeah, all right,

449
00:30:17.880 --> 00:30:21.839
let's see, let's jan It's time
for the catchup. It's time to talk

450
00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:26.160
about what everyone is talking about in
video games. And the first thing I

451
00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:30.000
wanted to talk about with you here
is GPU prices seem to be normal,

452
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:33.119
Like it almost feels like we might
get to a point where GPU prices again

453
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:37.680
going on sale again. I wanted
to add, like, obviously this is

454
00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:41.279
about like the cryptocrash and the economy
crashing in some ways, but mostly about

455
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:45.480
the crypto crash and people who were
mining realizing well, it's no longer worth

456
00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:48.720
it to buy new ones, and
really it might be now might be the

457
00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:52.960
right time to sell the old ones
and try to maximize the return on that

458
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:56.799
investment because the coins we're getting from
mining aren't worth much anymore. So there's

459
00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:00.000
a lot of secondhand ones on the
market. But also if you go into

460
00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:03.400
a store, there's a good chance
you're going to see a lot of video

461
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:06.440
cards at the very least, and
often in the m D cards as well.

462
00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:11.000
Are you in the market to buy
something now because it's easier. I

463
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:15.400
am am intrigued now because I feel
like this. I hate feeling that this

464
00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:18.480
is a bubble that is going to
burst, but I definitely feel like this

465
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:22.480
grace period of like oh, these
are actually available and some of them are

466
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:26.319
going on sale is I don't want. I hope it doesn't quickly disappear,

467
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:30.200
but I feel like it will.
So it's it's kind of forcing me to

468
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:33.119
think of like, well, gosh, now like this may actually be the

469
00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:38.720
time to upgrade. And I've seen
like a bunch of photos floating around of

470
00:31:40.119 --> 00:31:42.319
people posting like I don't think it's
a fry as, but like an electronics

471
00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:47.920
store where the case is just full
of GPUs and everything, and I was

472
00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:52.200
like, oh man, that looks
great. I couldn't think about all the

473
00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:56.960
things I can encode. I could
force everyone to start recording in four K

474
00:31:56.119 --> 00:32:00.400
and it'd be the worst. It's
but I could do it. You could

475
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:04.680
now, and now is the time, and you like you. The suggestion

476
00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:07.960
you made there that this is temporary, I think is probably accurate because I

477
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:10.839
remember the last time we got to
this point with video cards, where like

478
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:15.319
this is not the first wave of
crypto absorbing all the cards and making them

479
00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:19.599
really hard to come by, like
that happened like several years ago, and

480
00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:22.359
then there was this reprieve where there
was like the price dipped and then we

481
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:24.759
all thought, oh, well that's
it, everything's back to normal, and

482
00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:29.680
then it got even worse the next
time. To me, I think there's

483
00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:32.359
no reason to assume that that that
won't happen again, and so if you

484
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:36.799
are in the market for a card, I would just pull the trigger right

485
00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:40.640
now. I know the RTX four
thousand series is coming out soon, and

486
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:45.279
we can hope and pray that that
launch will be like we'll get the sort

487
00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:47.920
of we'll be in this part of
this reprieve where it'll be a launch where

488
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:51.759
you can actually go into a store
and buy one of those. I just

489
00:32:51.880 --> 00:32:57.680
would not expect that at any moment
the stuff could change and if you need

490
00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:00.319
a card, now, buy a
card now. It's what I would say

491
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:05.559
for sure. The implication of this
that I'm incredibly happy about is not just

492
00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:10.599
the crypto bros being sad that this
market is drawing up, but also for

493
00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:15.279
the environment, because gosh, I'm
sure we've all seen our fair share of

494
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:24.160
like photos of crypto farms where it
is just wall to wall shelves of computers

495
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:30.319
just running fans twenty four hours a
day. So I'm glad that you know

496
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:36.920
that these GPUs are not being or
going into the right hands. Yes,

497
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:42.240
absolutely, Like it's gonna mean these
things were made for people to play games.

498
00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:45.039
People find another use for it,
and the companies, I mean,

499
00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:52.759
obviously we're taking advantage of it to
a certain extent, and it's but the

500
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:54.319
market was never prepared for this,
and it was never really going to be

501
00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:58.440
able to handle it, and it
just left people in a situation where it's

502
00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:00.440
like, Hey, I really want
to use these cards and I'm going to

503
00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:04.720
play games on it, and then
when I'm done with it, I'm going

504
00:34:04.759 --> 00:34:06.960
to like hand it off to like, you know, a cousin, and

505
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:09.159
then I'll buy a new one.
And what happens here instead is someone's going

506
00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:14.360
to just run at twenty four seven
pump that those carbon emissions in the atmosphere

507
00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:19.280
for no reason other than create imaginary
currency, and then they are going to

508
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:23.639
sell this decrepit card that has completely
been just run through the mill, and

509
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:27.599
then they're gonna sell to someone as
it's like it's basically new, and they're

510
00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:30.920
gonna take advantage of someone else on
the market and Uh, yeah, it's

511
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:35.559
it's a shame, and I'm glad
that it's it's seeming like, at least

512
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:37.599
for now, it's coming to somewhat
of an end. And again, I

513
00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:44.079
just I'm not gonna believe that it's
gonna last forever. You know, something

514
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:47.480
that also doesn't last forever. The
summer sales are either start to begun or

515
00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:52.559
they're about to begin, whether that's
on Steam, PlayStation and Xbox as well.

516
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:55.320
I believe the PlayStation sale just began
and the Steam sale is supposed to

517
00:34:55.320 --> 00:35:00.400
begin today. I've seen a lot
of good deals on these Do you when

518
00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:01.320
these things happen? Do you run
to the stores? I'm like, Okay,

519
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:04.480
what can I get? Or do
you kind of just like have one

520
00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:07.199
or two games in mind, Like
once that's on sale, I'll buy that

521
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:12.840
and then I'll just dip out.
I've taken something I've started doing a lot

522
00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:15.360
of It is just like wish listing
a poop ton of stuff, whether or

523
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:20.199
not I like really really want it, or it's something that I've had my

524
00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:22.960
eye on in the past, or
I just need to circle back to it.

525
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:27.679
So whenever the Steam sales pop off, and especially with Q three right

526
00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:31.639
around the corner Jeff Grubb and that
sweet steam Deck maybe coming home to me

527
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:38.159
soon. I'm getting ready and I'm
gearing up, you know. I remember

528
00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:45.039
all these talks of people with their
Steam libraries and their backlogs being up out

529
00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:47.320
the wazoo, and I kind of
want that, Like I don't need to

530
00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:51.920
play Metal Gear Solid five again.
But it was like five bucks the other

531
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:54.400
day. I'm like, this guy, just get it. Maybe we'll play

532
00:35:54.440 --> 00:35:58.400
through it when the steam Deck comes. Maybe we won't. It runs really

533
00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:01.199
well on the steam Deck, I'll
say that much. It's it's real good.

534
00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:05.280
I mean, yeah, I think, honestly, this might be the

535
00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:08.360
first Steam sale to even get that
steam Deck bump where people are thinking along

536
00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:12.519
the same lines of you as you. It's like either I have it or

537
00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:15.079
I'm about to get it, and
I want to make sure that my Steam

538
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:20.199
library is ready to go. I
mean, this is clearly what valves strategy

539
00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:22.119
with the steam Deck has been,
where they're like, hey, we have

540
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:25.639
like the tech is in the right
spot. These chips can run cool and

541
00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:29.559
efficient and powerful all at the same
time, and we can put it into

542
00:36:29.559 --> 00:36:32.239
a form factor where it's easy to
to make it into a handheld whatever that's

543
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:36.920
there. The problem was always the
pricing, and that's why other companies were

544
00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:39.840
like, we're gonna kind of sell
the somewhat less powerful version of these chips,

545
00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:43.880
and this handel gaming PC is still
going to be more than a thousand

546
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:46.920
dollars. Valves incentives are completely different. They just want to sell a lot

547
00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:51.079
of video games, and they don't
and from video games from anybody, not

548
00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:52.559
just Valve games. So if it's
on Steam, they're gonna get their money

549
00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:55.280
for it. So they're like,
let's get a system out there that can

550
00:36:55.400 --> 00:36:59.719
appeal to a different audience and maybe
make a different audience spend even more on

551
00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:02.760
you see games. I mean,
I think it's really really gonna work,

552
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:06.760
and it might be a boost to
this this this Steam summer sale, I

553
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:10.880
think so, uh yeah, definitely. I think that For me, I've

554
00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:15.159
gotten to a point in my gaming
career where these summer sales usually can buy

555
00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:17.800
and I'm like, I have most
most of these games now. If I

556
00:37:17.880 --> 00:37:22.360
haven't one of the previous sales,
I'm either getting them for work or whatever,

557
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:25.079
or at this point I've learned my
lesson of like I often don't even

558
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:29.159
play them now if it's such a
good price, Like if it's anything with

559
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:32.079
a single digit price, right,
like just that integer is very appealing.

560
00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:37.760
Five dollars for a game that used
to be sixty dollars. It's hard at

561
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:38.840
that point to say now. And
that's where I usually fall into it.

562
00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:42.639
That's like games that are six seven
years old. I'm like, if I

563
00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:44.679
really wanted to play them, why
haven't I played them yet? And yet?

564
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:46.679
But still, once the deal gets
into my eye turned into Paul Reichert,

565
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:49.360
I'm like, well, it's a
deal, so I gotta buy it.

566
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:52.039
So, yeah, it's a Poggers
dealt deal. Yes, Yeah,

567
00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:55.639
what's your what's your greatest Pogger's video
game deal you ever got? Oh?

568
00:37:55.840 --> 00:38:00.320
Gosh. I think it was probably
Jade Empire for ninety nine cents, which

569
00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:04.239
I felt like a criminal getting,
yes, because it was the Steam version.

570
00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:08.159
I believe it was Steam version.
It might have been on gog and

571
00:38:08.599 --> 00:38:12.639
just because in my head, you
know, I'm thinking I'm doing the mental

572
00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:15.920
math of like ninety nine cents,
Like how can I not get that?

573
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:22.639
I bought like a iPhone app for
ninety nine cents once, and you know,

574
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:27.840
I got maybe ten minutes of enjoyment
out of that. I could probably

575
00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:32.119
get ten hours of enjoyment out of
Jade Empire with ninety nine cents. And

576
00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:36.480
I'll tell you, Greb, I
did not play yet, but I never

577
00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:38.599
fired it up. I had all
the intent too, Yeah exactly. I

578
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:42.800
mean these days, like it's very
easy to like be even like ninety nine

579
00:38:42.840 --> 00:38:45.119
cents, like because you can get
so many games for free, like on

580
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:49.239
Twitch and on Amazon, and then
as part of like subscriptions, it's like

581
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:52.280
even like a good deal isn't quite
as spicy as it once was. My

582
00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:57.239
most Pogger's gaming deal, though,
was I was at I think it was

583
00:38:57.280 --> 00:39:00.199
Sam's Club or Costco one of those, and and I was going through like

584
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:05.119
the book section, and somehow there
was just this random three DS game Tom

585
00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:07.719
Clancy Shadow Wars for the three DS, and it's I'm like, oh,

586
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:10.519
this looks like one of those turn
based strategy games that I like, I'm

587
00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:13.320
into that. And then I look
at the price and it was like seven

588
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:15.679
dollars. And this is a point
where no three DS game that was new

589
00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:19.360
at a store should be at that
price. Like that was like way less

590
00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:22.440
than you would even pay for like
secondhand games at at Games Games Stop,

591
00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:27.119
and so I'm like, oh,
I'm definitely gonna get this. It's probably

592
00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:29.480
not gonna work. But I took
at the register and they just didn't say

593
00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:31.000
anything, and it was seven dollars. I'm all right, And then that

594
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:34.920
was the game that lived in my
three DS for the rest of it's in

595
00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:37.039
life, because I got all the
rest of my games digitally, so I

596
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:40.000
just had Tom Clancy Shadow Wars and
I just actually just saw it in the

597
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:44.519
drawerback over there and send the drawer
now. So I actually did take out

598
00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:47.159
of my three DS recently because my
kids wanted to play Mario Kart together,

599
00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:50.199
so I had to two three ds
is and I have the one that has

600
00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:52.480
the digital copy, and then I
bought another version so they could play together

601
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:55.599
and that worked out well. Uh
but yeah, that was that was my

602
00:39:55.719 --> 00:40:01.000
most Pogger's deal. Incredible. Okay, here's the heads up. Some players

603
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:06.079
are having trouble beating Cotur two,
not because of its difficulty on switch,

604
00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:10.079
but because of a bug that is
causing all progress to stop Aspire. The

605
00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:15.079
team that is responsible for the port
is they're working on a fix, but

606
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:19.199
they also provided a workaround and it's
pretty a wild thing, but apparently this

607
00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:22.679
works. So before the cut scene
that is causing the problem, you need

608
00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:28.079
to navigate to the party's selection screen. There you can triple click the left

609
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:30.119
thumb stick, which brings up a
cheap menu for the game built into the

610
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:37.000
game. Select warp and travel to
oz n D five O four and warp

611
00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:42.079
to a random location and do not
head to the Merchant corridor because another crash

612
00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:47.559
occurs there. Okay, yeah,
so this ivan Listen Quodo two always had

613
00:40:47.559 --> 00:40:50.559
a lot of issues. Next to
the old Hope To always had a lot

614
00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:54.159
of problems, this sounds especially buggy
though. So the good news here is

615
00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:59.000
that the crash was previously thought to
have affected all players of the Switch version,

616
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:04.079
is clarified to Axios that only a
small number of players were encountering the

617
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:07.239
crash. So you want to roll
the dice there, You're probably still gonna

618
00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:08.639
be fine, But you could also
just wait for them to fix it.

619
00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:12.800
And it's They've been doing a good
job of fixing the games they've been putting

620
00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:17.840
out on Switch, so I'm hopeful
for that. All right, How are

621
00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:21.679
you feeling about playing like old games
to get ported the Switch now? Especially

622
00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:24.679
with the Steam deck imminent for you. I you know, I I think

623
00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:31.599
I care less now about them coming
onto the switch, especially knowing that I'll

624
00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:36.239
eventually get my hands on a Steam
deck, like I thought multiple times about,

625
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:38.960
like, oh maybe unless it's like
a first party joint, right,

626
00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:47.400
because I have probably bought all of
the Trails in the Sky and uh gosh,

627
00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:52.920
the Trails of Steel. Cold Steel, yes, cold Steel. Because

628
00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:55.920
I'm like, you know, I
hear Michael him talking big game about it,

629
00:41:57.440 --> 00:42:01.280
and I'm like, I should,
I should probably get into this that

630
00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:06.400
I don't care so much about them
coming out of the switch because I feel

631
00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:09.800
like the Steam deck will just enable
me to play all these old JRPG's that

632
00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:15.679
I don't need to play. Yeah, it's uh, I still think I

633
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:21.199
like the way they're off the packaged
on the switch. Like Star Wars Racer.

634
00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:23.119
I tried to get that on Steam
and it's like, oh, okay,

635
00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:25.880
this like this is like an older
version of this game and it's not

636
00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:30.159
working quite right. So it's like
they basically made it all. They spruced

637
00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:32.760
it up and made sure it's just
gonna run on the switch. So I

638
00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:35.840
just got it there. I paid
for it there, and that was fine,

639
00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:39.000
but overall, you know, Steam
has so many more games and so

640
00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:43.400
many more options, and the Steam
Deck is more powerful, and so they

641
00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:45.199
run right, and then if I
want to, if I really want to

642
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:49.679
play a specific game, the emulation
options are just so robust on the Steam

643
00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:52.199
Deck that, yeah, I mean, I can talk about how good the

644
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:53.599
Steam deck is for I have talked
about how good the Steam deck is for

645
00:42:53.639 --> 00:42:58.119
forever, and I will continue to
do so. When you get yours jam,

646
00:42:58.199 --> 00:43:00.400
we should definitely just do a stream
where we just set it up,

647
00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:01.559
we'll do some crimes on it.
It'll be really great, it'll be really

648
00:43:01.960 --> 00:43:05.719
lovely, and then we'll shoot some
hoops after. Then we'll shoot some hoops

649
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:07.920
after exactly just you and me,
so no one can like to ball us

650
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:13.159
and just be like, yeah,
two mediocre basketball players. Yeah, all

651
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:15.679
right, let's get to the question
of the day. Everybody. Yesterday,

652
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:19.519
I asked does your interest in the
game increase when it goes from paid to

653
00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:24.280
free to play? And only thirty
two percent about thirty three percent said yes,

654
00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:29.400
and sixty and sixty seven percent said
no, So two thirds no.

655
00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:32.119
I guess I'm not too surprised by
this, especially because the audience that I'm

656
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:37.800
probably speaking to is a lot of
people who have not preconceived notions, but

657
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:39.519
notions of what a free to play
game is going to be, and it's

658
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:43.440
gonna be very different than the games
they grew up on. They have an

659
00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:45.760
idea of like what they want a
game to be, and when you go

660
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:46.280
to a free to play game,
what's like, this is going to be

661
00:43:46.320 --> 00:43:50.400
a thing that's trying to manipulate me
into spending money. And they're correct.

662
00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:52.400
There's just an audience of people who
are like, well, that's better than

663
00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:55.000
paying for money up front, and
I think gets a different audience than what

664
00:43:55.039 --> 00:43:59.920
I'm speaking to. But still I
think that there's a reason developers continue to

665
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:01.559
go this path. Like the reason
I asked this question is Fall Guys.

666
00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:07.400
Fall Guys is the game that you
know. It was premium priced and it

667
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:08.880
just sort of it didn't seem like
it was completely fallen off a hill,

668
00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:12.760
but it also seemed like, Okay, this is going to rejuvenate it,

669
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:15.199
and the servers went down, more
people were playing than ever. Of course,

670
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:17.880
it was also ported to Xbox and
switching that was a huge part of

671
00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:22.880
it, but going free to play
ensure that that launch was really big for

672
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:27.840
them. So where are you at
with this? Jen? When you when

673
00:44:27.880 --> 00:44:30.480
you first play a game and you
you know, you get it for work

674
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:31.800
or whatever, you buy it,
and then it goes free to play,

675
00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:35.400
and now there's another chance to get
in there and there's more people playing,

676
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:38.599
does that make you want to check
back in on it? It? I

677
00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:45.519
think it will depend on a game
by game basis, because war Frame has

678
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:49.320
war Frame always been free to play. War Frame has always been free to

679
00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:52.840
play, yes, right, well, uh so like war Frame like with

680
00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:58.480
that always being free to play,
but being such a deep lore hole to

681
00:44:58.559 --> 00:45:04.760
dive into been intimidating. But for
something like Knockout City where I initially invested

682
00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:07.519
a lot of time some friends and
then hearing that it went free to play,

683
00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:14.320
I'm like, oh cool, I
could ease myself back into it because

684
00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:20.000
there's more people probably at similar levels
to me. So it will depend on

685
00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:23.360
the game. Or sometimes when it's
something like Final Fantasy fourteen where it's like,

686
00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:29.039
oh cool, I can really try
out this game and then if I

687
00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:31.440
really really like it, I can
dive in all the way that I want

688
00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:37.639
to. But for something like Fall
Guys, if it wasn't for work,

689
00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:40.599
purposes. I don't know if I
would check it out again, because I

690
00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:45.039
feel like I'd already gone everything I
needed to get out of Fall guys,

691
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:47.679
and you know, I haven't been
paying too close attention to it, so

692
00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:51.159
they could have added a bunch of
new stuff, like I don't know,

693
00:45:51.679 --> 00:45:54.400
maybe the little Jelly Bean boys play
basketball. Now, that's what I need

694
00:45:54.440 --> 00:45:57.199
to get excited. That's why I
need to get out of bed in the

695
00:45:57.239 --> 00:46:02.719
morning. Absolutely, it's for me. It's always about like the Discord and

696
00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:07.360
the people I play games with and
trying to set up game nights or friends

697
00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:12.440
and family and being like, Hey, this game is twenty bucks. Do

698
00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:14.519
you want to come play it with
me? That's one thing that I'm like

699
00:46:14.679 --> 00:46:16.480
usually gonna steer clear of, but
when I get a chance where I'm like,

700
00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:19.800
Okay, this game is free.
All you have to do is hit

701
00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:21.719
this one button. And if you
don't want to do that, that's fine.

702
00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:22.519
I get it, like you're basically, but if you do want to

703
00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:25.079
play with us, you don't spend
any money, and that's much more.

704
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:29.960
That's much easier for me to have
that conversation with people. And I don't

705
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:31.639
feel guilty being like hey, because
a lot of Like again, I get

706
00:46:31.639 --> 00:46:34.400
a lot of games for work.
It's like so easy for me, like,

707
00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:36.679
come play with me, Come spend
your money to play a game with

708
00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:39.360
me and entertain me. I don't
like. I don't like saying that stuff.

709
00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:42.079
So it's like, instead, I'm
like, when it's free to play,

710
00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:45.159
it's like, Okay, this is
an opportunity to expand the group of

711
00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:47.960
people I'm playing with beyond the people
I know bought the game. So I

712
00:46:49.559 --> 00:46:52.599
like that. And Fall Guests is
a game I've enjoyed and I have checked

713
00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:57.559
in on occasionally over the last year
or wherever it's been out. But this

714
00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:00.159
is like a huge opportunity for me
be like, Okay, here is a

715
00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:01.480
lightning rod where I know a bunch
of people are gonna be playing. I

716
00:47:01.519 --> 00:47:04.599
know a bunch of people are going
to be interested in for the for the

717
00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:07.440
first time because of the poor and
because it's free to play, and so

718
00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:09.519
I'm going to, you know,
go in there and check it out again.

719
00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:15.239
And then that's why plan. Although
we were going to stream the custom

720
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:17.840
games on Friday, it turned it
sounds like they shut off Custom Games.

721
00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:21.880
I don't know if they turned it
back on. So yeah, we're gonna

722
00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:24.239
have to look into that, so
maybe maybe we'll have to rework upf But

723
00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:27.880
if they turn it back on by
Friday, yeah, we'll figure it out

724
00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:30.000
absolutely. But if they get it
working, we will still do it.

725
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:31.480
I would love to do that.
It sounds like a good time. I

726
00:47:31.559 --> 00:47:37.239
feel like what has replaced free to
play games within my friend's circle, specifically,

727
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:43.239
it's just game pass right where you
know exactly right, Like I had

728
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:46.960
a friend that was not necessarily into
a left or Dead Back for bloodstyle game,

729
00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:50.840
but because he already had game Pass, he was like, all right,

730
00:47:50.880 --> 00:47:52.639
well I'll try it out. I'll
download it, and then you know,

731
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:57.440
we would up beating the whole thing
together. Right, So I think

732
00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:02.119
you're right about free to play still
having a weird connotation in people's heads where

733
00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:05.559
it's like, oh, well I
don't want to play that then because they're

734
00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:09.000
going to try and charge me a
bunch of money down the line, versus

735
00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:15.360
I guess the weird upfront cost of
game Pass and that being a easier pill

736
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:17.599
to swallow, because I mean,
like I've played, I've played hours again

737
00:48:17.639 --> 00:48:23.199
should impact and I got lucky where
I didn't actually drop any money in to

738
00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:28.840
get more roles. I dropped money
in because I wanted to support the developers

739
00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:30.760
and be like, hey, good
job, thank you for making this.

740
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:36.280
Yeah, and it's the kind of
thing where I am I get why people

741
00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:40.239
are kind of those connotations of free
to play games and they're hesitant and and

742
00:48:40.519 --> 00:48:46.119
all that stuff. But when it's
when when it's these people that like that

743
00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:50.639
are not subscribe to game pass,
it's like this is one way to get

744
00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:52.199
them in. But game passing,
you're right, has been become this other

745
00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:57.639
thing of Okay, I know it
is a cost each month, but we

746
00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:00.760
often play games together and have a
good time. And if we just consider

747
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:04.800
this the price of having fun and
we kind of built it in into our

748
00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:07.159
expectations, I think it's easier to
manage that. And then when a game

749
00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:10.440
comes along and you convinced them to
play it, it is at that point

750
00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:14.039
it's they just spent their time and
they just download it, and so if

751
00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:15.440
things go don't aren't great, and
they don't have a good time and they

752
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:21.079
don't enjoy the game. While the
pain points are very small there, it

753
00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:22.480
is okay, well we've just done
on installed, we just won't play it

754
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:27.400
again, and we're not thinking about, Oh, I just spent sixty dollars

755
00:49:27.519 --> 00:49:29.760
on this, Jeff, the next
time you ask me to play a game

756
00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:31.880
with you, I'm going to reconsider, like whether or not even want to

757
00:49:31.880 --> 00:49:36.199
do that, even though we often
do have fun. Still that this just

758
00:49:36.280 --> 00:49:37.639
cost me money because you talked to
me into spending this money. And again

759
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:42.119
that's just my own guilt associated with
it. But but yeah, you're right.

760
00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:44.960
Game Pass has a very similar effect, and it's one of the things

761
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:46.599
that I think is really good about
it. And now you know, I

762
00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:51.079
think the way PlayStation Plus works now, it's going to be very similar for

763
00:49:51.079 --> 00:49:53.039
a lot of people. Even if
it isn't a lot of Day one Sony

764
00:49:53.119 --> 00:49:55.920
games, I think they're still going
to keep up like Day one, smaller

765
00:49:57.039 --> 00:50:00.239
third party games and then a huge
library of catalog stuff that's going to be

766
00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:04.480
really good for a lot of people. Like I had a group of friends

767
00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:08.000
that gave me guff because I asked
them to buy Uno and it was like

768
00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:14.519
one ninety nine, uh exactly.
We could play Uno together and then I

769
00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:17.679
had to miss the game night because
you know, life events and whatnot.

770
00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:22.840
Uh, And then they were very
upset with me about making them spend one

771
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:27.400
ninety nine, right, and I
and I realized, like okay, all

772
00:50:27.480 --> 00:50:30.480
right, sure, sure one ninety
nine adds up down the line, but

773
00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:37.320
like y'all pay for like so many
different subscription states, and like you like

774
00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:40.679
dropping the bucket here or you get
like like really like one ninety nine is

775
00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:43.760
so cheap, like compared to like
you know, going to get a drink

776
00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:46.039
from somewhere, and it's like that's
you know, it could be three four

777
00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:50.000
or five six dollars. And but
we just for some reason, I know,

778
00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:53.360
games and and entertainment stuff that we're
not like associated with like sustenance.

779
00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:57.840
I suppose we just think about it
as like, okay, every dial there

780
00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:01.239
hurts that much more, and one
dollars hurts, two dollars really hurts,

781
00:51:01.519 --> 00:51:06.440
let alone sixty dollars. Right,
The chat brings up an excellent point.

782
00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:12.199
One ninety nine is cheaper than actual
UNO. Like yes, Deck of Cards.

783
00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:14.800
Absolutely, yes, you can go
to target and find UNO for like

784
00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:16.719
what like like yeah, like ten
dollars or something like that. I don't

785
00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:20.719
know how much does UNO cost these
days. Probably still make a lot of

786
00:51:20.760 --> 00:51:22.800
money off that, Yeah, I
look it up right now. While he's

787
00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:27.239
doing that let's talk about our question
for tomorrow. I will put this up

788
00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:30.320
on my Twitter feed. Should Sonic
Games be sad? I want you to

789
00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:32.840
tell me that. You tell me
should Sonic Games be sad? Yes?

790
00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:36.760
Or no? I will put that
on the Twitter feed at some point whenever

791
00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:37.880
I remember to do that today.
All right, how much does it cost?

792
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:42.559
Jana Choa, Jeff Grebb, what
what did you say again? I

793
00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:46.519
said nine ninety nine? Well,
uh, egg on almost both of our

794
00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:50.920
faces because I thought it was going
to be around the same price. Five

795
00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:53.559
sixty nine. Okay, fair enough. Yeah, printing costs. I bet

796
00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:58.320
it's gonna I bet it's gonna go
up in print, the retro edition five

797
00:51:58.519 --> 00:52:00.519
ninety nine. Oooh okay, that
actually thirty cents to get that. Those

798
00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:05.880
nostalgia and lives. Absolutely it's I
suppose, yeah, printing stuff's not.

799
00:52:06.199 --> 00:52:07.559
It's one of those commodities at this
point. You know, have you ever

800
00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:13.239
played Duo the sequel to Uno?
No, I'm not playing. I know.

801
00:52:13.320 --> 00:52:15.519
I've seen it at Target a couple
of times, and I'm like that

802
00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:17.719
seems like that seems weird. I
mean, they're trying to make it happen.

803
00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:21.360
Maybe I bet it has not happened. I bet it's not taken off.

804
00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:23.400
If anyone knows anyone who's ever played
oh is it? It's not Dose?

805
00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:27.440
Maybe this dose, it could be
dope. That makes more sense.

806
00:52:28.639 --> 00:52:30.639
Yes, So if you played Dose
or duo, whatever it's called, let

807
00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:35.039
me know, let me know how
much fun you had. Jen, We're

808
00:52:35.079 --> 00:52:37.239
gonna wrap up the show, but
I need to know what is happening on

809
00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:39.960
Giant Bomb later today and for the
rest of the week. Oh boy,

810
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:45.079
Well, yesterday there was an obscene
amount of content popping off. You and

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five other members of the crew played
through quite a big chunk of team and

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t Shredders revenge. That quick look
is now live on the site. An

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episode of Jeff Jeff's One Punch Jeff, I forget what the actual title off

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the show is. I Apologize another
album or another arcade pit not an episode

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of Game Mess Mornings from yesterday with
Lucy James. Yes, watch that one.

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It was a lot of fun.
Today we've got another episode of the

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Voicemail Dump Truck tomorrow, another episode
of Game Mess Morning, the finale of

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Run to the Hills, and in
another episode of UPF two cap off the

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week, and you know there's a
little there's a little note and a little

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uh, a little calendar today,
Yeah, a little note. What is

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this? What does this say?
It says I think that everyone is attractive,

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very attractive, all day long,
very very attractive. Now, all

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this is subject to change, except
for that You're you're gonna be attractive all

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day all right, are subject to
change. You made you know. After

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two pm, some people just going
so all right, Jane, thank you

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so much for this today. I
really appreciate that you're coming in here on

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Thursday's helping me out talk about the
news. It's always a good time Thursday.

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Yeah, I'm thursdays too. With
that though we are out, I

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want to thank everybody for listening.
This show is only as good as the

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people watching. It's what I always
say. I've always said that, and

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I'm going to keep saying that.
So until the next morning, mess have

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a good one, take care of
yourself, and goodbye.