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Hey everyone, It's Tuesday, November
thirty, twenty ten, and you're listening

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to the Giant Podcast. I'm your
host, Ryan Davis, joined by Vinny

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Caravella. Hi, how are you? Jeff Gerstman late to be here?

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And Brad Shoemaker, you had all
that time, you had all that lead

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up and all do you think it
was high? And hello? Alternatingly,

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they both took mine. Jeff was
looking at sensed, looking at his phone

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in his uh Soviet Union hockey jersey. Heney Marshall drank milk and pepsi in

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real life and added it to her
character. She just likes doing it and

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thought that would be a thing.
I'm gonna open this and see if it

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tastes like hold on context. What
I got this can of milk iss here

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that was sent to us from Korea
and says the translation here says, uh,

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milk and coal accommodation that somehow doesn't
curdle the milk. And of course

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I'm reminded of right. And then
Viney and I were looking at you like

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I. I tried it a few
times. I tried drinking milk and pepsi,

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and so the first couple of times
I tried it, I was like,

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this is all right, and I
had one more time. I was

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like this is ef and terrible,
and then never tried it again. Terrible.

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I don't like it. A creamsicle
is about as close to that is.

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It sounds like a distant relation of
a white Russian to me, oh

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man taste anything like I'm kind of
I see that, but I also kind

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of getting like root beer float,
but like like a clear milky beverage in

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this can kind of a kind of
right going to be both clear and milky

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maybe like with cloudy. It's like
I should say, yeah, like I

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melted. Well, it's like some
you know, gastronomical thing where it's the

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and it's it's you're saying, they
engaged and air compressor and some liquid nitrogen.

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It's exactly what I'm saying, like
like if it's if you're deconstructed root

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beer floats, some kind of molecular
gastronomy, molecular manipulation going on here.

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I steel himn't have to try milk
and pepsi again. Now after this this

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is milk is so we made by
Yeah, we wanted you to take a

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classic, a favorite American staple and
deconstructed. What have you made for us

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today? Right? And Pepsi?
I poured milk into this pepsi and I

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had to spit it out over here
with this is this pepsi? Is this

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store bought pep have to let this
the milk over here? We have a

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delicate candied pepsi corn feet and on
the side we have milk three ways,

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these milk pearls and a nice cream
phone. It's fucking phone my face with

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that. I still I didn't watch
any of them that I found myself reading

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the twitters of the Voltageio brothers over
the weekend, though they don't tweet very

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well. Maybe they should join the
protest or whatever. They're not the protest.

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The celebrity vicar, Well, how
you doing? Welcomessip, it's post.

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It's post American Thanksgiving and post Canadian
Thanksgivings. Yeah, it's long,

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but no accurate, accurate. I'm
just saying anyone driving for accuracy and always

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that's just that's what this podcast has
always been. It's the truth. I

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think it's more preth Canadian Thanksgiving.
At this point, you're winding back up

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from the one. It's still post
on the court it's still posts. School

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starts wrong, prove me wrong,
pre post, bring a coupon? What

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a cupon? A coupon? Although
a coupon cup cupon coupon. Yeah,

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I left on my cupons in the
wash. Can't help you. Sorry,

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Oh yeah, we did that.
I thought I was gonna get a way

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more done on the game front,
and it's just Assassin screed. Brother,

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I just playing that. I was
dead wrong. By the way, I

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did not put it in twenty three
hours before. I saw somebody in the

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comment saying that it was confusing how
the game clock works, so that you

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might be reading it wrong. Yeah, I was reading it wrong, So

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I was. I was actually twenty
three Apparently I had stopped playing that game

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around eleven eleven thirty for like a
week. Uh, and also was twenty

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three percent done with the game,
So getting weird confirmation on that. So

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now I am. I was seven
hours at that point, so I must

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be near twenty three now having gun
and you're you're guilt yet. Oh man,

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they're they're great, those guys,
they are a great they are Oh

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man, they are Like it's such
a stupid mechanic because I feel like it

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is everything that is that that game
shouldn't be. But it's so much fun.

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It's like smart bomb. It's yeah, it's push this button to destroy

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everything on screen, like all right, cool? And I love it because

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it's like every time just running after
a dude. You know, he never

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puts his hands on his knees and
pants, but that's what I feel like

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after it's just like, oh I
missed the jump. Just I just kill

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him and they just who snap your
fingers. Yeah, he's a little eagle

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car. Yeah, and he is. He is down there, and it's

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so it's so gratifying, like,
yeah, you thought you were gonna get

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away. This guy has been tailing
me for the last two hours, hiding

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invents and with haystacks, hang out
in these doorways and haystacks and just jumps

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out of waiting waiting. Just I
didn't use those guys a whole lot because

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I always had them out in the
field doing dirt. Would I would always

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keep like one or two dudes around
just in case I wanted to to get

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nasty. But is there any goal
to leveling them up out in the field

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other than become more savage? But
when they're fighting with you, right,

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yeah, so if you ever use
them, yeah, exactly, well they

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but but what you can also send
them as they level up for the field

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stuff they can take on, I
can take on more responsibility by themselves.

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There's a percentage to the you're like
winding ratio. But all of all of

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the field work is experience and money. Yeah, so by money, get

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money, which they top out a
level tens, the experience becomes useless at

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some point you don't need money ever. Yeah, So that's so now at

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this point, I'm kind of there, I like, turn that corner right

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now, I'm just collecting tons and
tons of money. So now I just

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have like three dudes all and that
arrow strikes. It's so it's just so

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like there's definitely like whole missions where
I was like, man, I just

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don't want to I don't want to
sit here and watch this guard pattern and

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figure out what it's just fun.
They're all dead, uh, and I

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especially like it. It's it gives
you a satisfying sense of power in that

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game. So you're just like pointed
a guy like I want that guy to

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be dead now, and then just
out of nowhere comes these just your savage

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ass crew of assassins riding sometimes riding
on a horse and just jump off.

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They get on the horse and ride
away, like all right, I'm out.

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And the greatest thing is is,
uh, you don't you don't take

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any responsibility for it, like you
could walk right by, or sometimes I'll

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just walk in. It's like I'm
just gonna stealth kill when he goes because

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they don't even see me. Yeah, just like tink tink tink. Uh.

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And then I kind of do like
the walk over and like totally role

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playing, like, well, what
happened here? Terrible? Did you use

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the crossbow a lot? I'm starting
to now as I'm getting lazier and lazier,

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and that's just kind of I'm starting
to use poison more too. I

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didn't use poison at all, and
I didn't buy the crossbow until after I

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beat the game. Yeah, I'm
just getting tired of sneaking around, so

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now I'm just like as close as
I can get without being detected and picking

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off these and the poisons great because
it takes them a while to kind of

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register, so I can hit them
with poison and kind of run to the

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other side and they flail around and
it'll attract the other guys to them,

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so get fast Poison. I got
it. Those shop quests are hard.

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I think they must just start dropping
stuff later in the game because I spent

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way too much to complete one shop
quests. I got the fast Poison.

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That's it so far. And I've
been I bought all the treasure maps and

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was looking for stuff, and I
know that they give you some stuff from

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the missions, like yeah, like
like the rare stuff that I needed for

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the shop quests I was getting from
the assassin missions from sending dudes out on

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that stuff. Yeah, so there's
that. And then also the carriers that

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are just the dudes that just start
taking off running down like I always saw

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one of those guys through the entire
game, So I think it's a late

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game thing. I'm starting to get
them now, but now I'm getting them

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more frequently. They have really good
stuff on them. Yeah, and they're

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also great for your assassins. Just
like, dude, just running a one

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after them for like I don't know, thirty seconds would be like, ha,

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just kill them, kill them.
It's great. I had trouble to

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starting between Pito Pickpockets and the courier. The curriers don't show up in your

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map, so there's no the little
pickpocket icon, the little money bag shows

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up on your map. Curiers don't
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So when they just do starts running
weird, takes me a second because sometimes

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I've done got pickpocketed. They don't
pick pocket you nessarily, we'll just see

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them kind of running rooftops or just
those guys though. It's so fun to

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watch them because I literally I just
wait for the guards to pick them off

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the roof because they'll just hit the
rooftops and then I'm running their guards.

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It's just like, what are you
doing? Like you're supposed to be up

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here, and they just dropped to
the ground and I just load them like

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I don't even chase them anymore.
That game's fun, and I'm spending way

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too much time. And I had
a sack of games I was supposed to

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were you supposed to be playing?
Well? I had the Saboteur that's okay,

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you're good. I also had Downstairs
Inferno. That's not it's not even

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a game, is I don't think
it's this year's Sabatar is not even a

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ten game. I don't can't remember
we had that conversation last week. It's

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definitely okay, but it's one of
those ones I kind of wanted to check

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out it was on sale, and
especially after playing Asassins Creed Brotherhood. You

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extra don't want to play the Saboteur. I didn't, and I did.

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And then it worked out that you
got so that and Dante's Inferno and Borderlands.

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Oh yeah, you were having on
about I was just clearing my throat.

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Oh is there something else I'm forgetting? It seemed like it. It

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seemed it seemed like a pretty pregnant
little We were supposed to play a buch

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Porderlands, and then Vinny didn't play
Porderland. I did. I kept missing

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you. I think because I saw
you were so he didn't send me a

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request, and because you were playing
Assassin's Creed the whole time. I didn't

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want to interrupt. I saw you
playing Borderland, about jumping in there.

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I don't think you get to guilt
him then if you didn't even send a

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friend request, well, because he
is, if he's knee deep in and

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he's not gonna like poke his head
out and realize it's like, oh but

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we had made plans. Well we
didn't have a we had a play date.

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We did we know, Yeah,
we were talking about finishing Borderlands,

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just sitting there waiting for anything.
I did check you out a couple of

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times, and you like, oh
Brad signed off like nine minutes ago.

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I figured you were still going through
the stories. I was, and I

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was. I have not played any
multiplayer and Assassin's Screed, and I don't

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know if I have an interest in
doing it so much because you'll be able

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to watch other people play some assass
Greed brotherhood maybe this Thursday for Thursday,

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So do you play? Points can
unlock the harle Quinn. But there's a

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pun on there somewhere, like hell
Quinn. There is the Hello Quinn because

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the Harlequin was the pre order bonus. So the Hella Quinn is like a

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weird another Harlequin, a demonic version
of the Harlequinn. So so riddle me

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this, mister Davis. Yeah,
there's there's no there's no functional difference between

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anything. But why would you want
to stand out? Why would you want

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wouldn't? Yeah you wouldn't. Don't
you want the money? You wouldn't stand

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out? Oh, there are the
other because Quinn because it's there's eight players,

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and yeah, there would be other
player looks different, but the world

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is comprised of those eight models,
and so if you pick Hello Quinn,

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it'll make Helly quinns around. Okay, so he didn't realize that. Can

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you be a Haystack, No,
that's not one of the playable characters.

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You can be Haystack the rapper though. There's a wrestler. No, that's

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Haystacks Calhoun, uh something, So
yeah Calhoun, that sounds like a reasonable

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wrestler. Last name. Uh anyways, GNT screed brotherhood Thursday. You brought

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a book, you brought a clip, GBTNT you have a book coming out?

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That's it? Anyways, keep going
steam sale nothing, nothing, nothing,

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a busy all of the uh,
Jeff, I heard you talking about

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it a little before the Black Friday, Cyber Monday stuff. All of the

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sales. And I don't know if
this is a bigger conversation about the state

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of this year in video games,
but like nothing, well I didn't think

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of anything like there was. There
were a ton of great sales happening,

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but there were all for games that
we all already own. It was like

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need for speed and fable and fall
out, they're all in for sale,

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and we're like, I'm like,
fuck, yeah, if this had happened

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like a month ago, I would
have all these games for super cheap,

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but already it was all the stuff
we were already required to play. Yeah.

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Yeah, I did miss the need
for Speed one on Amazon, which

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I thought was just insane. I
mean it was like, what was it

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was bucks? Yeah, barely two
weeks old. Some of these sales are

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kind of frightening. Yeah, uh
where it's like, what are you trying

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to recruit? What are you quick
waite? These games already like dead in

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the water soon after release. It
has to be more of like a lost

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Leadershi. I hope that's the case. Well, I mean it's it's no

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really, like the Black Friday thing
is some sort of a justification for that,

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Like you do lots of ridiculous sales
during that time. You give away

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copies of Dance Central at an old
Navy. Yeah, what like if you

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bought twenty five dollars worth of stuff, you got to get Dance Central at

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at old Navy, Like you know, he didn't get a connect supplies and

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you didn't get to get a connect. But yeah, like so that shit

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happens on Black Friday, Black right, It's crazy, it's it's, you

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know, an aberration. But what's
what's like more telling is the way that

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like Amazon is giving them out those
ten dollars, fifteen dollars, twenty dollars

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get certificates every time you're just buying
any random game. Yeah, the fact

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that you know, effectively, I
you know, I had a bunch of

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games that were brand new that cost
me forty or fifty bucks instead of you

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know, the requisite sixty. Speaking
of buying games, he won want to

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buy a copy of Grant raise my
five off of me heym. I just

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came to mind too. But I
bought that Collector's edition because I knew it

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wasn't gonna come on time. So
some weather problem. Yeah, well you've

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got that. Now you've got that
limited edition. Yea that sweet key chain.

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Dave's got one. Yeah, I
don't think Drew's so interesting. I'm

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trying to think of other driving people. Brad, I got, I've got

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all I need. Sixty bucks flat
no drift, Yeah, there's a whole

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drift section. I did put in
some times drifting over the break, So

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I was I was gonna play that
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kind of Amazon, but whenever it
got my ten dollars fifteen whatever, they

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want to throw the Amazon just like, hey, I like you for buying

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games. Here's another ten dollars.
So I also got a copy of Enslave

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that showed up today for five bucks
or something. So yeah, they're the

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Grand the Turismo stuff I got.
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buying wheels, uh, racing wheels. And then luckily I think you came

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over and I'm like, what were
you? What are you doing? Somebody

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you know like you should get this
one from Yeah, this one from Germany

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works on everything. You're like,
no, but it's only like two hundred

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and fifty. This one's got the
fluid ball bearings and it's kind of a

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lot of money. I kind of
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like on Grand Turismo. I haven't
played yet, but I kind of feel

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like it's almost like a street Fighter
where you kind of want the stick,

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right, you want to almost bought
another stick they had those those arcade pros.

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Go back and consider how much the
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and how much use they get.
Let's talk about the specialized hardware purchases.

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Yeah, let's talk about it.
Yeah, I but but no string wheel

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got purchased. No, no,
But I'm still kind of like, I

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don't know. I feel like I'm
gonna put it's gonna bring his in for

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for the show on Friday, and
you can mess with it then and make

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your decision then. Like I don't
really drive much like I don't. I

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don't have a car, and I
like I every time I get behind the

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thought of you behind the wheel of
a car its weird than me. Yeah.

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I need to practice, and to
practice on the Nurberg obviously. Yeah.

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And the grand reason what it is
not is not the driving teacher that

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I want you to walk warm up
on before before you start. No,

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trust me, how jo lock damage
on this hunduc Because how would one prepare

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for the mean streets of San Francisco? I mean crazy taxi? Right,

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Like, don't only that's the only
choice. Just don't drive a stick.

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Yeah, I'd probably be my first. Well, I mean what video game

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was preparing? Ridge? Is her? Okay? Pretty much? Vet?

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Yes? Vet? Actually Vet would
be perfect. So I haven't come back

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to a driving desert desert bus.
I vet your selection laden. Al Right,

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guys, I'll see you next week. Gearing up nice fully worked chet

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sound like a real door, right, that was all my I like how

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you let the door handle like pop
back up, as if you had to

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sort of smack. It was very
convincing. Thank if only there were some

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like coconut halbs you could use for
your footsteps. You're not wrong? Uh

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what we're talking about driving wheels and
arcade stake. Well we'll go, We'll

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good collective. Thank you Dave again. Excellent Dave impression, excellent throwing of

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the boys. Thank you. I
believed it. That's when I spent the

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break time. I believed. No
games, just working on looking in the

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mirror, working on your Dave impressions. See no, no racing. We

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always purchased. But I'm still Did
you play any grand Utta Stone? Did

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my online interaction tell me about?
So? I feel like this. Let's

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let's back the story up a little
bit. Sure, Drew and I went

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to Uh, we got contact,
you got contact. We were invited to

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a Rosetta Stone event last month.
Last month, last month, we were

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invited to a Rosetta stepped a pr
agency that that represents certain other game entities.

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Okay, all right, like people
within our within our business. Yeah,

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I guess we got on the mailing
list for Rosetta Stone, right,

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and with the thing was said to
he said, Hey, we're having an

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event San Francisco, and I like
half jokingly forwarded it too, I think

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to Drew Drew, because because Drew
uses Rosetta Stone, he's using using it

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to learn German. Yeah, you
know, he's serious about it. So

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I'm like, hey, hey,
if you want to go to this Rosetta

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Stone event, they're gonna show off
the new Rosetta Stone. And then he

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was like very very He's like,
yeah, I want to go to this.

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How do we like, let's how
do we set this up? What

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do we do? And then I
was like oh and then like the week

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of he's like, well, what
are we trobably doing this? All right,

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Drew, if you want to go, let's go. And then you

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tried to get me to go,
and I said, I have zero business.

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I have used Rosetta Stone before too. So Drew and I went and

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it was great. I really like
the new version of Rosetta Stone. Showed

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off that new version of Rosetta Stone. I'm gonna shill right here for Rosetta

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Stone. Thank you for inviting us
to the event. And it's a great

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new product and the one of the
greatest things about it. And I tell

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this because the PR Agency wound up
contact contacted us a review. We're qualified

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to review Rosetta Stone anyway. But
you know, like we're using it and

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that's great. And we've got a
copy of the Japanese one. Yeah,

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yeah, you got me that copy
of the Japanese one, which has been

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sitting in front of my TV for
at some point. I do kind of

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want to you know, I've talked
a lot of game about like you know,

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I would specifically because I thought you
would. That's what we were,

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you know, that's when we went
to the event. We were like,

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oh, you know, like we've
been talking about maybe learning Japanese or whatever.

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And they're great here too in Japanese. Uh. So I've been I've

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been using it for Italian for a
while and uh one of the new things

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it's new to Rosetta Stone, And
would be like if I was just using

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it for English. No, my
Italian is terrible. It's it's not good

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at all. Uh. And but
but you have enough that you're able to

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critique some of the translations in Assassin's
Creed Brotherhood. Yes, like La France

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is not Montreal, which Montreal is
way funnier. Yeah, oh I did.

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I did the like where Montreal did
not exist until the mid sixteen hundred,

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sod up I did. Okay,
uh, well part of France are

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you from an Assassin screed? And
Etio answers Montreal. He's posing as a

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French, true, but in the
Italian version, but in my kame he

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was stuck in al to ears armor, so he was not posing as a

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French. True. Really didn't change. I couldn't turn it off. Oh

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no, like it you'd set it
would go back to pick plane cape or

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something like that. But he would
never change out of it. So when

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I got to the missions where he
was supposed to be disguised, just like

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the play, it's just like just
was broken and I could, like you

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couldn't figure out what was going on
for a little while. It's like,

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wait, why am I said?
Part so unders us on a new thing

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is all this online stuff and they
showed us a little bit of this at

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the demo. But you basically sign
up for appointments, you schedule an appointment

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with a real teacher, like a
teacher. It's online, so they give

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you a list like when do you
want to sign up? And it's an

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hour long uh and they have videos. It's terrifying, but it's great.

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Uh. So at the end of
like your coursework for like the first chapter

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or first like unit, Let's say
you schedule a thing and I'm sitting there.

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I'm like, my wife is sitting
next to me. I'm gonna do

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it. She said you should totally
do it. I'm gonna do it tomorrow

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morning. So I did it and
woke up and it was about twenty eight

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twenty after nine, and I click
it ROLLO. Sitting there in my pj's.

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My wife's sitting next to me because
she's excited for me. I'm nervous.

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She's like, it's be awesome.
I don't want to do this.

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I'm terrible. And I put on
my headphones. I put on the headset

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and it's a loading bar starts going
because it's getting near, and this little

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video pops up of this woman who
looks as if she's of let's say,

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like Middle Eastern descent. I'm like, oh, this is gonna be weird,

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and she did like Italian at all. And she goes, Hi,

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welcome to Rosetta Stone. I'm your
counselor guide, and we're just wanting to

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go over a few of the rules
for going into this, saying I'm like,

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okay, the little prerecorded video,
you get the four starts, and

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she's like, you're gonna stay in
the English the entire time and try not

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to if you got to take a
break, you use the mute button,

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stuff like that, and if there's
anybody else with you, please be consider

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it, because you're supposed in groups
of other people, Please be considerate.

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And then she goes, did you
get all that? Yes, great,

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and then I'm gonna push you through
to Maria, your teacher, and then

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it goes off for a second,
and then Maria comes up in the corner

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and she's like Jovin said, and
then I freaked out. It was just

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like old It's like, uh,
but it was, it was it so

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I was the only one in there, so uh. But at fifteen minutes

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one on one with Maria, and
it was it was fantastic. It was

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great, and I was super nervous
and fidgety, and she couldn't see any

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of that. She just heard me
in that set. But you know,

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I just holding you didn't have a
webcam set up as well, dyln't let

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you, and there was it.
We asked about that and the thing like

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no webicons. They're like no,
no, but they so they were just

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getting the voice. They just getting
voted I see her, which is important

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because she's pantomiming a lot of stuff. Uh yeah, but man, like

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that that learning and language with with
human contact is the way to go.

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It's the only it's the only way, right. And like the fact that

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they've added that in and there's more
online stuff like that is like a huge

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step for that product, right,
So like I can reschedule I could do

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that every day of the week if
I wanted to. Well, it's crazy

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that that it's just part of like
the software package that it's not like it

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is it is. It is an
online you can buy just the CDs or

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you can pay the subscription fee for
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like one hundred and fifty bucks or
something like. Okay, So so after

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that, I was blown away.
I was like, that was fantastic.

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That is if you're gonna learn.
It was terrifying, But that's what you

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have to go. You have to
interact with somebody at some point. And

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my wife was like I want it. So it was like, great,

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let's go look and uh yeah,
we're gonna sign her up for her own

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because I was you do it.
She's like, I can't, don't want

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to do it. Well it just
want to do it on your account.

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Yeah. So is there like persistence
with that stuff? Are they like tracking

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like level four? Yeah? Yeah, well yeah, I'm now I'm on

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you the damage yet as you get
the red dot. Uh no, But

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but they do have like little achievements
that come up in the corner that are

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just like Vinnie's completed an online lesson, like Sherilyn's completed getting started, and

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like little things that like kind of
tick up at the bottom. There so

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all sorts of weird online stuff that
are made the product better, but that

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one on one interaction is freaking terrifying. And I was doing on language or

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I'm slightly familiar with, like if
I were doing the Japanese, for get

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it. I mean they are patient
and everything, but like something about second

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language, like as an adult interacting
with people scares the crap at me.

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I just feel like I'm the worst. Like I'm talking like an idiot.

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I'm talking like an idiot. You
I know, you're the most patient person

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in the world. I'm sorry.
I'm so sorry. I can't even imagine

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what this sounds like to you right
now, like all my like it's like,

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oh, like okay, yeah,
all is good? Is it?

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Is it going to be? Okay? Sure? Yes, did your prepositions?

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But anyway, yeah I did.
I did a bunch of that and

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uh I barely handle English. It
was a lot of fun. So there

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you go. Get think about Rosetta
Stone for your second language needs, if

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you need terrifying experiences. It's It's
really the only way though, Like Red

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Brad said, it's the only way, because you when you do the computer

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stuff, it's like you're speaking to
it and like you're saying something that should

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be that You're like, well,
this is right, and the computer's looking

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for an exact string of words and
stuff, whereas what the person They're like,

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yeah, okay, see where you're
getting up. But here's how you

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should really do it, you know, uh yeah, I don't know that.

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That's probably the most fun game I
had. Brother heard was great from

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my heart rate going. You say, sounds get a fantastic online experience.

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I did. I don't play online
games, but I might go back for

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Moretta Stone. Uh. And then
so that that was pretty much my thing.

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I didn't did not leave the house
is Drew. Do you know if

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Drew's using the new res of the
stunt, it's funny. He's worried that

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the installing a new program will override
his progress and in his old Rosetta Stone.

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Okay, so he has to see
if he can import a save basically

404
00:27:15.759 --> 00:27:19.119
in a because he's pretty for your
character. Yeah, and you kind of

405
00:27:19.160 --> 00:27:22.799
get all the gold and stuff you
want to see if you can import as

406
00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:25.160
the level because you don't want to
grind at the beginning of stuff. Again,

407
00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:26.119
it was like an extra ten bucks. You just serve a transfer,

408
00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:30.880
so that's change your name. Yeah, uh, it was fun. I

409
00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:33.680
don't know. Uh. And you
know, I talked to my my mother

410
00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:37.720
in law, who's actually a second
language teacher, and she's Rosetta Stones put

411
00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:41.920
us a lot the work. Oh. I bet she's probably hates that they've

412
00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:45.720
added this element to She's super nice
and she was just kind of you know,

413
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:48.799
she was like, oh yeah,
you know, I'm glad you're using

414
00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:51.039
it because you know, it gives
me a great perspective on you know,

415
00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:52.000
what's new in it. And like, you know, I talked to a

416
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:56.680
lot of other teachers because she does
like, uh, like what are those

417
00:27:56.720 --> 00:27:59.480
things called like big summits or whatever
like that, And they talk about,

418
00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:03.000
you know, schools that are shutting
down their second language program, and they're

419
00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:04.000
like, well, we can buy
copies of Rosetta Stone and give those to

420
00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:07.279
the kids, and and it's like, is that a good idea or not?

421
00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:12.200
And she's like, Okay, interesting, interesting, chagrined to hear that

422
00:28:12.279 --> 00:28:15.240
it's not entirely awful. Yeah,
well no, not right. I mean,

423
00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:21.519
she's just curious. She wants to
see what's going on. Well,

424
00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:26.440
if you want to do that,
fine, Jeff, Hi, that's hello,

425
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:30.279
that's going it's going all right.
How was your break? I don't

426
00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:34.200
know, it was all right?
Did you do uh like nothing? KNA,

427
00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:38.000
I don't really do. It's the
best kind of Hey, Brad,

428
00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:41.200
all right, what's up? I
did some stuff? How you doing?

429
00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:44.839
How's your break? It's pretty good? Excellent, it's some food. It's

430
00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:51.079
gonna do it for this week.
Tradition you should be a table of food

431
00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:56.119
that you ate from this weekend.
That's right, that sounds. That sound

432
00:28:56.319 --> 00:29:04.720
is appropriate. Kiss. It's my
more that even just summoning the idea of

433
00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:08.960
it has made this room to smell
like a Chinese restaurant. There was a

434
00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:15.000
whole pig gross there, so you
were there, Yes, you made a

435
00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:21.960
whole pig Thanksgiving? How many calories? Strongly? It's a Turkey holiday.

436
00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:23.039
There was turkey there? Okay,
all right, there was. There are

437
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:26.920
two turkeys, actually two full turkeys
there. And actually the family Thanksgiving thing

438
00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:30.599
that I had to not go to
was the like four turkeys and two pigs.

439
00:29:32.160 --> 00:29:33.839
Wow. Really, it's like one
hundred and twenty one hundred and thirty

440
00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:37.200
people, which is why I don't
go. Oh wow is that? Where

441
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:41.880
where does one hold something like that? A park farm? It's a lot

442
00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:44.400
of food though, yeah, and
it's not a lot, not a lot

443
00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:48.079
of leftovers. Yeah, well for
that many people fight for it. How

444
00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:51.000
could you pass off a plate like
that? Oh well we did, just

445
00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:53.359
like me and my parents did dinner
on Sunday. So you didn't go to

446
00:29:53.480 --> 00:30:00.240
like the clan meeting like whoa,
No, I did not. I think

447
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:07.000
I turned Thanksgiving. There's other reasons. The food is great, but there's

448
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:11.599
conversations rough. It's rough. You
end up leaving with a lot of pamphlets.

449
00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:15.000
All they can do is talk about
the forty nine ers. I just

450
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:21.119
don't want a lot of white knuckle
bullshit. Do not bring up the Raiders.

451
00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:26.119
So true, so true. You
were not interested in leveling your Grand

452
00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:30.400
Wizard? Sorry? Max levels?
Oh my god, you know what we're

453
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:33.960
talking about. Jeff, Do you
have any games to talk about? Yeah?

454
00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:37.039
Yeah, I did before all this. Yeah, now I have to

455
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:45.680
apparently leave welcome in this building,
change my name. I played Tron Evolution,

456
00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:48.480
the video game, the video game, the official video game of theficial

457
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:53.599
video game of the movie, Tron
Legacy. Yeah, of the brand Synergy.

458
00:30:55.680 --> 00:30:57.039
Yeah, because Jeff, I think
we agree in the cards Morning,

459
00:30:57.079 --> 00:31:02.839
those are both terrible names. They
are Evolution Tron Legacy. I don't think

460
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:04.880
which is really yeah exactly. I
think in a lot of ways, they're,

461
00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:07.559
you know, if they don't want
to call it Tron too, because

462
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:08.799
they don't want to imply that you
should see the first movie. Because I

463
00:31:10.119 --> 00:31:12.079
feel like they're going out of their
way to make sure the people don't see

464
00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:15.839
the first movie. How about Tron
two point Oh yeah, that's already taken

465
00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:21.359
by something else that was terrible.
So uh, anyway, I remember when

466
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:23.079
it was supposed to be true.
I was about to say, like,

467
00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:26.599
like, looking back, maybe that
was still the best choice. Maybe that

468
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:32.359
was still the best option. Anyways, Tron Evolution is actually set before the

469
00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:37.519
movie, before Tron Legacy, Tron
Legacy, but after after Tron. So

470
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:42.279
you would say it's like the bridge
the evolving of Tron. Yes, the

471
00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:47.200
evolution. How much Tron is in
Tron Evolution? How much actual Tron isn't

472
00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:52.160
character? Trond's name Tron, No, the actor Bruce box Lightner. That

473
00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:56.640
is a video game. It's a
great name, Bruce box Lightner. There's

474
00:31:56.680 --> 00:31:59.960
not a lot. There's not a
lot, But that's not I don't think

475
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:05.599
that's because of him not wanting to
do what. They actually got Bruce box

476
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:08.000
Lightner for it. Yeah, but
the story is such that I don't think

477
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:13.000
Tron will be in the upcoming Tron
Legacy. Tron is not you know,

478
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:16.519
are you saying he's not material too? I'm saying it's called Tron's City now,

479
00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:21.000
like it's all Tron, So you
don't need Tron, got it,

480
00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:23.799
got it to necessarily Tron. The
character is not what this is about.

481
00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:28.440
I thought you were gonna say they
pulled a Morpheus in the Matrix online kind

482
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:34.839
of thing. Anyway, moving on, Yeah, so it's it's it's the

483
00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:37.359
events that are leading up to the
new movie, like set like maybe like

484
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:42.319
five years after the old one.
It is like eighty nine, like seven

485
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:45.799
years after the old movie or something
like that. So basically twenty years before

486
00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:49.240
the new film, and you kind
of you know, like the whole all

487
00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:52.359
the trailers and all the stuff is
that you know, is that Kevin Flynn

488
00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:54.519
Jeff Bridges's character has disappeared. He's
been gone for twenty years, his son

489
00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:58.640
has grown up without a father,
and his son I'm just gonna walk in

490
00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:01.119
there and he's gonna say, how
do Yeah, maybe I don't know what

491
00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:05.119
the tri I'm paraphrasing the trailer.
Yeah, pretty good. That's that's I

492
00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:07.519
believed it. Yeah, total was
exactly where you were, both Bruce box

493
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:15.319
Lightner and Jet Bridges or whatever.
That's my fully work shit Bridges Jeff Bridges,

494
00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:21.519
so his name is Sam. Not
that dumped all of that Tron two

495
00:33:21.559 --> 00:33:24.279
point stuff, thankfully. Yeah,
you know whatever anyway, but I don't

496
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:28.119
think it was. But it's funny. It's the same concept that it's still

497
00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:30.119
like fucking son of Jeff Bridges coming
back? Do you? I mean,

498
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:31.839
what do you do? I know, I know do with that? And

499
00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:34.920
also this is a virus involved,
because what do you do with that?

500
00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:38.240
It's like the virus in a computer
worm lookout? Because yeah, you have

501
00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:42.359
to have simple concepts that can be
understood. Yeah, I mean, it's

502
00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:45.119
it's kind of easy to make fun
of the grand sweeping concepts. But I

503
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:51.839
actually I found myself really appreciating the
story side of Tron Evolution for kind of

504
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:54.799
setting the tone for the upcoming movie, for for letting you know why there

505
00:33:54.920 --> 00:33:58.920
is uh and this is stuff.
Most of it I'd kind of picked up,

506
00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:00.599
but it was it was nice to
see it kind of spelled out a

507
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:04.160
little more explicitly and kind of get
the character motivations of why there is young

508
00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:07.519
Jeff Bridges and old Jeff Bridges and
stuff like that. Where has Kevin Flynn

509
00:34:07.639 --> 00:34:12.440
been for all these years? Uh? Stuff like that, and that is

510
00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:15.199
explored in the game. That is
the crux of the game. That is

511
00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:16.519
that is Yeah, that's cool.
You know, the events of the game

512
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:20.800
are are are all about that stuff. So it's you know, there's a

513
00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:23.880
virus that is set loose. It's
basically, you know, it's it's a

514
00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:29.880
big race war. Really, the
world of tron is a is a race

515
00:34:29.960 --> 00:34:34.760
war of the kind of regular programs
that are referred to as basics and ISOs,

516
00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:39.280
which are programs that evolved out of
the Sea of simulation, which they

517
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:43.599
don't have any users, their userless
programs. What are the purpose they serve?

518
00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:46.920
So you have to kill them,
all right or study them. So

519
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:51.679
basically it's like the Basics versus the
ISOs in a lot of ways. And

520
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:54.559
you know, it's it's racial tensions, is kind of it's it's basically how

521
00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:58.840
this stuff plays out. And uh, you know some of the programs,

522
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:02.559
some of the basic don't want the
ISOs around, so like, are they

523
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:07.119
bad? Dude? Not necessarily,
but you know, when a virus breaks

524
00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:09.000
out, it's very easy for someone
to blame the ISOs for it, really,

525
00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:14.039
you know. So it ends up
being like kind of an interesting story

526
00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:16.360
and it's kind of the sort of
thing that now I'm it left me more

527
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:21.039
interested in seeing the movie. Tell
me more about the Sea of simulation.

528
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:22.679
They don't really get into that.
It's it's it's that's something that's in like

529
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:27.519
one of the files you unlock.
It's not a key thing. It seems

530
00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:30.719
like she's already important. If that's
where all of the ISOs are just popping

531
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:31.679
out of. Well, so by
the time you get there, the ISOs

532
00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:35.719
things has already happened. This isn't
like that's not key to the story.

533
00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:38.440
Okay, So that happened in something
called Tron Betrayal, which was a two

534
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:43.360
issue comic book series that they did. There was also leading up to all

535
00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:46.159
this stuff. Get the impression that
they planned a lot of shit to lead

536
00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:50.000
up to the movie. A pan
media event, yeah, something like that.

537
00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:52.840
So I ended up ordering a copy
of that because they did that over

538
00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:54.360
the summer or something. But then
they released two issues, but both the

539
00:35:54.440 --> 00:35:57.599
issues in one thing. It's like, well, I'll just get that.

540
00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:00.559
Can you get it on like your
iPhone or something digital? No, at

541
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:04.440
least not that I could. Tron
did not work on my kindle, that's

542
00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:08.440
for sure. So I have a
physical copy of that thing coming. So

543
00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:13.920
the story side of it's interesting,
The gameplay side not as much. It's

544
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:17.519
it's kind of split between your kind
of traversal sections of wall running and wall

545
00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:22.920
climbing and stuff like that. And
the camera works not always great and and

546
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:29.159
it's it's satisfying in parts, but
generally just kind of and then the combat

547
00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:35.719
is not all that great either.
It's really defensive, like you kind of

548
00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:37.400
have to be blocking all the time, and if you're blocking, you'll you'll

549
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:40.400
block any normal attack with like a
little bit of block damage, but you

550
00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:45.719
can always counter or perry off of
those attacks. Like timing based's count it's

551
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:47.679
not even timing based. It's like
as soon as you get hit with a

552
00:36:47.719 --> 00:36:51.280
disc when you're blocking, it goes
into slow motion. You just hit X

553
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:54.000
and and he'll attack. It's some
kind of like one hit kill after that,

554
00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:58.440
or it's a it's a more damaging
attack than your standard disc toss,

555
00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:00.840
so it's it's beneficial to it.
And the other thing is that they present

556
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:04.079
you with a lot of different enemies
that are weak to different stuff. So

557
00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:06.599
they give you these kind of different
heavy attacks like a bomb disc and a

558
00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:10.599
heavy disc and a stasist disc,
and then present you with the concept that

559
00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:14.880
like this guy's week to the stacist
disc, and they tell you that once.

560
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:16.880
So it's like, all right,
well what about Ranto? This guy

561
00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:19.400
again? What was it week?
You guess I don't even remember. I

562
00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:22.360
don't even remember. There's no like
encyclopedia or something, and no, you

563
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:36.880
there, you mean a tron cyclopedia
light cyclopedia. That's right? Breaking off?

564
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:44.400
Man, fuck you guys. Who's
gonna push stop on this podcast?

565
00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:50.360
Now that Ryan's gone? Guys,
I'm still here. Whoa, I didn't

566
00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:54.280
actually leave the room. Wow.
I know you, of all people should

567
00:37:54.280 --> 00:38:01.639
probably not be surprised by that fact. It's I'm weirded out. So uh

568
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:06.000
yeah, there is there is some
in game stuff about the enemies and stuff

569
00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:08.960
that you can actually view it from
in the game. Do they explain like

570
00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:13.880
why there's different discs? I thought
the discs were where your identity live.

571
00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:16.159
I kind of always was confused by
the purpose, Like they're supposed to be

572
00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:20.000
your identity disks, but then you
can murder people with them. All yeah,

573
00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:22.760
well, you know they're useful as
a weapon, But then why would

574
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:25.599
I have four different identity discs?
You don't. It's it's different programming that

575
00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:31.719
you encode onto your existing disc,
programming inside of my program. Yeah,

576
00:38:31.800 --> 00:38:36.000
basically, you know, I mean, because I think about, think about

577
00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:38.599
go back to the original Tron.
Think about when Tron went to go communicate

578
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:43.599
with Alan one. Yes, he
got things encoded onto his disc that would

579
00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:46.840
help him defeat the MCP by a
user, by a user. This is

580
00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:50.519
the same type deal. So as
as you play, you level up,

581
00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:53.320
except for the fact that, like
everything about the technology in Tron is kind

582
00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:58.840
of horseshit. Yes, but putting
that aside, Okay, putting that aside

583
00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:01.519
and coming with me on this journey. Buy into the tron ship here for

584
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:04.840
a while. All right, all
right, fair enough, fair enough.

585
00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:07.639
You level up, which they call
versions, so you become like version sixteen

586
00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:14.480
and version seventeen and all that sort
of stuff. No, it's no hacking,

587
00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:19.000
mini games, no debugging, nothing
like that. And you earn megabytes

588
00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:22.239
for leveling up that you then spend
to upgrade your dude, and you get

589
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:28.880
programs like health ping one point zero
that in multiplayer mode will slowly restore your

590
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:31.159
health megabytes and eighty nine. That's
that's a lot of space. Yeah,

591
00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:35.840
absolutely, I had like a five
megabyte hard drive. Yeah, you're getting

592
00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:39.360
like, guy, four megabytes a
level here. By the end of it,

593
00:39:39.480 --> 00:39:49.039
you are an MFM hard drive of
Porno Gifts. That's pretty much what

594
00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:53.480
happens. Yes, dialing into a
BBS get a virus. Yeah, so

595
00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:57.920
you're you're updating your character kind of
as you go and buying these upgrades,

596
00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:00.000
and one of the upgrades you get
like pretty late game unless you well so

597
00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:06.880
it's actually persistent across multiplayer and single
player. So you would actually probably have

598
00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:08.840
a better time playing the single player
if you played a ton of multiplayer first

599
00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:14.159
and leveling up your dude and went
into the same and winning the single player

600
00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:17.079
like level sixteen or seventeen. When
you bought the auxiliary power for the Stasis

601
00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:22.199
disc. Oh, because I'm assuming
it drains some kind of well of something

602
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:24.639
every time you use it. Is
that what you're saying, Like using you

603
00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:29.360
can't just spam right, Yeah,
yeah, but it's fairly easy to restore

604
00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:31.119
that stuff. But there are passive
powers for each of the discs that you

605
00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:36.199
can buy that when you So when
I have Stasis Disc selected now, I

606
00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:40.920
turned invisible, which is handy.
You don't actually turn invisible, it's just

607
00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:45.960
like all your tronness fades out and
they can't see they can't see you.

608
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:49.639
So the awesome and crazy thing about
this is you can just do it mid

609
00:40:49.719 --> 00:40:52.840
battle and you stop moving and don't
get hit for a while. Just they

610
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:54.880
all stop moving even after if they're
they've already seen you. It's not like

611
00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:58.679
if they see you they keep attacking. You can just stop any fight at

612
00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:00.480
any time I wanted. They just
stand. Yeah, someone will kind of

613
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:02.119
walk around a little bit, but
for the most part, they just all

614
00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:05.480
just freeze. But your health doesn't
regenerate. You have to you have to

615
00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:07.880
run over pads, right, yeah, but you can walk slowly in this

616
00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:14.880
state without coming visible again, So
it gives you a chance to kind of

617
00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:16.239
punch out of any battle and go
refill your health, which there were just

618
00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:21.440
some some checkpoints in that game or
messed up at lower levels because you just

619
00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:24.360
don't you don't. It doesn't feel
like you have enough health to deal with

620
00:41:24.639 --> 00:41:28.519
the number of enemies they're throwing you
at any at any given time. So

621
00:41:28.559 --> 00:41:31.360
it leads to you having to play
overly defensively and just sit there and block

622
00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:34.960
and block and block and throw the
stuff out. And it's it's not that's

623
00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:37.199
a really odd designed well because the
game doesn't scale right to your light.

624
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:40.440
So yeah, I don't think so
opening it up for this online or the

625
00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:45.519
multiplayer stuff to come back into the
single player less must be a weird design

626
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:47.559
issue to deal with of Like,
well, some players are going to be

627
00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:51.960
leveled seventeen when they come to this. Some people are going to be leveled

628
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:52.679
two. Well. The weird thing
is, you know, when you first

629
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:57.280
start the game, I don't even
think you have any of the secondary disc

630
00:41:57.360 --> 00:41:59.480
powers, Like heavy disc is the
first one you get, and maybe you

631
00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:00.920
do start with that one, but
I want to say you get that at

632
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:05.360
like level two or something like that, so you can conceivably start the game

633
00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:08.519
with all four disc powers if you
which you normally you know, you know,

634
00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:13.239
if you just go hit go,
you're not gonna have So I don't

635
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:15.679
know. I don't think they change
the game up for that stuff. But

636
00:42:16.599 --> 00:42:20.199
but I haven't gone back and played
more of it after finishing it, so

637
00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:22.920
I don't really know how it begins
again. And there's no kind of like

638
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:27.679
matroity style, like you need to
use this bomb disc on the just linear

639
00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:31.920
running way through? Yeah, super
linear. Yeah, so there is a

640
00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:36.639
multiplayer. There is multiplayer. Yeah, they are talking about the multiplayer.

641
00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:38.880
Are you talking about multiplayer. Yeah, I'll talk about the multiplayer. It's

642
00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:43.480
uh, you know, you have
your persistency that you level up but then

643
00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:45.599
off. Also you kind of build
load out slots like Call of Duty and

644
00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:49.960
you kind of slot these perks or
whatever they call them. They're not the

645
00:42:50.079 --> 00:42:52.599
perks, disc mobs, disc powers, and you can slot three of those

646
00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:57.320
onto your game memory managers. Yeah. Yes, you put KEM two points

647
00:42:57.440 --> 00:43:01.880
its dost six point two two on
there. It's a great game. PC

648
00:43:02.039 --> 00:43:07.639
dust man myself whatever. Gross,
Yeah, weird. They got weird utilities

649
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:13.480
with that. That ain't cool.
IBM International Business Machines. Yeah, so

650
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:16.280
they've got you know, death match
and team death match and zone control modes

651
00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:20.880
and some of the games have are
are big enough maps for you to use

652
00:43:20.920 --> 00:43:23.800
the light cycles. Oh yeah,
the light cycles so you can takes.

653
00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:27.519
Yeah, and there are pads little
spawn tanks so you can get in the

654
00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:30.199
tanks and blow up light cycles.
Can you pop that light takes, light

655
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:34.280
tanks, tanks? Can you pop
that light cycle anytime you want? Not

656
00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:37.239
the single player, No, no, no, not at all. It's

657
00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:39.000
it's like a level. Yeah,
it's like you're in a specific section and

658
00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:43.360
the single player all the light cycle
stuff is just set piece racing get here

659
00:43:43.440 --> 00:43:47.800
before time expires type stock. But
in the multiplayer, yeah, you can

660
00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:51.440
jump out of it at any point
you'd want to jump out to control a

661
00:43:51.559 --> 00:43:55.440
node and then hopping your light cycle
because these maps are really big. I

662
00:43:55.519 --> 00:44:00.039
think light cycles are great as a
thing. But if there's one thing that

663
00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:04.639
they've proven time and time again with
all the Tron games they've made over the

664
00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:07.320
years and with all the you know, just fan made light cycle stuff,

665
00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:10.280
is that you need an overhead view. You need an actual tactical view of

666
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:14.719
what the fuck is going on,
especially because they're supposed to be really fast.

667
00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:17.719
Yeah, so when you get that
behind the back view and you don't

668
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:21.519
really have a view of the map, you have no idea where other people's

669
00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:23.639
lines are, and you go through
your own teams lines, which I think

670
00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:25.960
is kind of a weird thing.
I understand why they would do that,

671
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:31.000
but it just ends up being the
situation where I feel like I'm never able

672
00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:37.519
to really actively de res anyone in
multiplayer on a light cycle. If it

673
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:39.679
does happen, it's because I've been
alive for a while, so my lines

674
00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:44.079
real long, and they just happen
to run into it or something like that.

675
00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:50.639
So so that stuff just it's not
great. The thrill of actually being

676
00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:53.039
in a light cycle is still kind
of cool, and you can use the

677
00:44:53.079 --> 00:44:57.159
bumpers to do like the ninety degree
turns and stuff. But you also have

678
00:44:57.239 --> 00:45:00.960
analog yeah control. Does that mean
you can make like les with your line?

679
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:04.480
Yeah? But like the coolest LFE
cycle stuff is actually in the single

680
00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:07.360
player game. Like there's just one
part, like the first part where you

681
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:09.679
get into a light cycle is you
racing down a building that is collapsing,

682
00:45:10.039 --> 00:45:14.000
and it's fucking cool. It's just
like, whoa, man, this is

683
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:19.360
messed up. There's just recognizers everywhere
doing bad stuff, and realizers never get

684
00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:22.639
used for good. They only ever, only ever show recognized, only ever

685
00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:25.199
show up whenever when the bad things
going down, there's a recognizing. Every

686
00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:30.199
happy to see a recognizer. No
no you oh think god the recognizer here.

687
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:34.559
Oh fuck, we gotta get out
of here quick, down this building.

688
00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:39.320
Yeah. But it's so it's it's
definitely got its missteps. You know,

689
00:45:39.360 --> 00:45:44.960
there's there's some stuff in there that
that is often baffling. I mean

690
00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:46.679
a lot of the games stuff that
I saw, it's just it's it seemed

691
00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:53.159
very highly derivative of either Assassin's Creed
or Prince of Persia. I get definitely

692
00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:55.920
get a lot more Prince of Persia
than the Assassins create off of it.

693
00:45:57.039 --> 00:46:00.639
Well even just even just the way
you were describing the combat of stuff.

694
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:02.880
Yeah, now that you mentioned that, that probably sounds more ass but it's

695
00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:07.159
not one hit kill counter stuff like
like Assassins that would actually be that was

696
00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:08.679
gonna say that that would make it
if it was more like Assassin's Creed,

697
00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:13.519
that would have improved the combat probably
right. But but yeah, like the

698
00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:15.400
linear nature of the acrobatics and kind
of what I've saw a scene of that

699
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:19.719
stuff where it's very level based,
very much like you have to trigger these

700
00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:23.760
things before the next door open,
like those sorts of puzzling elements. Yeah,

701
00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:27.880
it's it's got some really cool moments
and some moments that I that I've

702
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:30.639
found to be a total drag,
Like I think it ends up being kind

703
00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:35.599
of a wash kind of in the
middle. If you if you do really

704
00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:38.599
like Tron and care at all about
the story of Tron, I think it's

705
00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:44.360
it's it's pretty cool worth checking out
for that stuff. Like I could see

706
00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:47.079
someone checking it out for that stuff. But if you're just like I want

707
00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:51.760
an awesome action game, this is
not an awesome action game. Very good,

708
00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:54.119
maybe not the legs on the multiplayer
that will keep you coming back to

709
00:46:54.480 --> 00:47:00.480
I don't necessarily think so's it's it's
uh like that stuff's okay. It seems

710
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:05.280
like what I saw of it seems
sloppy, like it did. You know,

711
00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:08.880
you want a multiplayer experience that's either
like fucking super precise and high speed

712
00:47:09.079 --> 00:47:13.760
like Call of Duty or you know, Battlefield something like that, or you

713
00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:15.760
want something where it just looks cool
as shit, And I didn't feel like

714
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:21.639
I necessarily got either of those out
of the Yeah, the Tron multiplayer,

715
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:24.280
Yeah, it's one of those.
It's one of those things that it was,

716
00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:27.599
like we were talking about earlier today. It's one of those games that,

717
00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:29.559
like, two weeks after this comes
out, it's gonna be a waste

718
00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:31.920
slam, like who's gonna play?
Like, who's who's gonna like this?

719
00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:36.519
This is not an addition to the
game that's gonna keep people from selling it

720
00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:39.360
back or or anything like that,
Like if if that's the business reason,

721
00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:45.000
So I'm definitely curious to check out
that single player. You know, yeah,

722
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:46.880
I think it's it's worth seeing.
Like, it's definitely like and like

723
00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:51.199
I said, like a you know, I kind of had a rough idea

724
00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:52.400
of what the movie was about,
but coming out of the game like,

725
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:55.440
oh okay, because that kind of
this is happening and here's why and and

726
00:47:55.599 --> 00:47:58.880
this is this is all that stuff, and I found that all to be

727
00:47:59.119 --> 00:48:00.840
like super interesting. I can't wait
to talk to you after the movie comes

728
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:05.960
out. It'll be my first three
D movie really. Yeah. Ever,

729
00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:10.280
I mean of the modern every current
of the non red Blue Glasses, How

730
00:48:10.320 --> 00:48:15.239
does how does how does having played
this game make you feel about the Pirates

731
00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:21.199
of the Caribbean cancelation? The same
guys making it, same studio, Yeah,

732
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:23.960
same studio, but I mean there
was different people, so you kind

733
00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:29.480
of assume that there is common leadership
at the top and yeah, common culture

734
00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:30.960
to some extent. Yeah, I
don't know, you know, it's it's

735
00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:35.119
it was funny because it going back
to like E three, when you looked

736
00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:37.039
at the two games, you were
like, Pirates, Yeah, Tron,

737
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:42.519
I don't know, we'll see about
We'll see about Tron. Tron could be

738
00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:45.440
all right, it could be pretty
bad, and it turns out as it's

739
00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:51.079
about as in the middle as you
could get. But but Pirates was the

740
00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:53.239
game that, like that demo looked
cool. You're like, oh, man,

741
00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:57.119
okay, this is clearly if they
can make a whole game like this,

742
00:48:57.400 --> 00:49:00.159
then it'll be okay. But my
guess is that the rest of the

743
00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:07.119
game was not looking like that or
something so unfortunate. Yeah, yeah,

744
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:12.960
all that Pirate stuff is is unfortunate. But you know, Jeff Krishman,

745
00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:19.159
do you have anything non tron related
to bring I ended up watching tron fucking

746
00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:23.039
tron hole, buying comic books based
on Tron. Yeah, this was at

747
00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:25.280
one point I was like, man, it's I have I have had so

748
00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:29.599
I think it was like the first
week I bought my laptop, someone sent

749
00:49:29.639 --> 00:49:31.320
me a page, like an instructibles
page. I said, here's how to

750
00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:37.400
make like an em or like el
like electroluminescent clothing, like here's how to

751
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:40.599
put tron tubes on a jacket.
I looked at it and said, that's

752
00:49:40.639 --> 00:49:45.639
awesome, I should do that.
And it's been bookmarked ever since and I've

753
00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:49.280
never done it. Maybe now the
time time we're gonna go to you,

754
00:49:49.599 --> 00:49:52.119
like scratch off a lot of like
Glow in the Dark, watch Hands or

755
00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:55.960
something. No, I don't know
what it is. There's like specific tubing

756
00:49:57.880 --> 00:50:00.719
snakes, you know, crack and
then yeah, we used to have those

757
00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:05.360
at the roller snakes that you cracked
those A lot of cracking snakes is some

758
00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:07.760
sort of like Long Island drug reference. We go crack some snakes, a

759
00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:13.360
little snakes, bring a coupon,
bring cop'ren go crack some snakes and talk

760
00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:19.239
to the visible man. Put it
on the pizza. Put it on the

761
00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:22.360
pizza, Pippen. What else I
play? I don't know. I had

762
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:27.360
a play in a bunch of black
ops. Mm hmm, shot guys.

763
00:50:27.440 --> 00:50:30.280
That's yeah, that's that maintained.
Yeah, just play more Grants Roismo.

764
00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:34.159
Oh yeah I did, Actually,
yeah, I totally drive. Did I

765
00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:37.360
did play probably about four hours a
grand release something like that. Kids getting

766
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:42.199
excited about driving, Yeah, that's
always good for America, none of none

767
00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:46.440
of us, none of us getting
excited. I was excited. I still

768
00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:52.519
I'm excited. I was excited.
And then parts of that game looked real

769
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:55.039
weird. Yeah, and I don't
know what's going on with that music.

770
00:50:55.199 --> 00:51:00.199
But yeah, I don't really like
any of the menu music. Basically any

771
00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:04.039
part of that game where you're not
actually driving seems like it was made by

772
00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:07.360
crazy people, Like it was made
by people that haven't played a game in

773
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:12.400
about six years. I don't know
what's what happened with some of that stuff.

774
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:15.320
And again I have men you and
just like I found at one point,

775
00:51:15.719 --> 00:51:17.559
I was looking at my car in
my garage. It was my sick

776
00:51:17.639 --> 00:51:21.559
ass starter civic that I had spent
a munch of money on to get it

777
00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:25.559
up over two hundred horse power.
Was still white. It was still white.

778
00:51:25.719 --> 00:51:29.840
Nice uh, and I made my
guy blue again. Also, I

779
00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:31.760
had to start all over Becau.
Apparently their online servers were on fire.

780
00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:35.639
I heard that that was a big
part of why we were having so much

781
00:51:35.719 --> 00:51:38.599
trouble. Yeah, yeah, quick, look is is? Well? Also

782
00:51:38.679 --> 00:51:45.119
your time is Your time and date
were wrong, so so obviously why are

783
00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:50.800
you trying to eat the correct time? Anyway, So in the garage there

784
00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:52.760
was a button marked to share with
friends, and I thought, well,

785
00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:57.360
cool, I totally want to show
everyone on my friends list my ill ass

786
00:51:57.400 --> 00:52:00.320
civic. Yeah uh, and then
I hit that not I didn't really know

787
00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:04.119
what it was gonna do. It
didn't really say anywhere like what this did.

788
00:52:04.239 --> 00:52:06.519
I was like, sure it,
you're gonna share with friends. Check

789
00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:08.079
out my ill last Civic. But
once it was shared, I could no

790
00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:12.679
longer drive it. Oh you gave
it to a friend? No, it's

791
00:52:12.760 --> 00:52:15.000
shared. I don't know what they
were seeing, but I don't know if

792
00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:16.800
they could drive it, or if
they could look at it, or what

793
00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:20.920
the benefit of sharing actually does that
part? I don't know. But it

794
00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:22.519
deleted the car. No, but
the car was basically there, and it

795
00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:24.400
was but it was, like I
would say, it shared with friends was

796
00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:28.519
lit up and I could not get
into the car. Give somebody else the

797
00:52:28.639 --> 00:52:30.400
keys. I don't know. I
don't know. So then I was like,

798
00:52:30.519 --> 00:52:35.480
well, all my other cars are
not good enough to win or even

799
00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:39.000
enter these races, so I need
to get my Civic back. So I

800
00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:43.039
went back there and hit share with
Friends again and said like, do you

801
00:52:43.159 --> 00:52:46.159
want to stop sharing with Friends?
I said yes, and it would sit

802
00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:50.599
there for about let's say thirty seconds
forty five seconds to come back and say

803
00:52:50.639 --> 00:52:57.400
the upload failed, like great,
thanks, and I that enthusiastically. Hey,

804
00:52:57.800 --> 00:53:00.320
hey buddy, the blood failed,
like the upload of your preference.

805
00:53:01.199 --> 00:53:06.159
I don't even know. I don't
even know it was the most bizarre,

806
00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:07.559
and I'm like, what does it
even happening? So I turned it off,

807
00:53:07.599 --> 00:53:09.960
and then you tried it a little
bit more the next day and was

808
00:53:10.039 --> 00:53:15.840
able to get my fucking Civic.
Once I stopped sharing it, I could

809
00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:19.000
get into it and actually drive it. It's like and and then then I

810
00:53:19.119 --> 00:53:23.159
unlocked the NASCAR stuff, and it's
just like this zombie Jeff Gordon. This

811
00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:27.519
this game has kind of everything in
It's got like cart racing, it's got

812
00:53:27.679 --> 00:53:30.320
Nascar. There's some open wheel stuff
in there. I guess drifting. Yeah,

813
00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:34.639
there's drifted races. There's off roads
boardings. Yeah. Uh, there's

814
00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:38.599
a two D fighting game in there
somewhere. Coop Cooper's got a biplane,

815
00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:43.760
yeah, exactly. There's Diddy Kong
Racing. Actually just unlocked Diddy Kong Racing.

816
00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:45.559
I don't know how they swung that, but it's in there, Red

817
00:53:45.239 --> 00:53:51.079
Dot Sites, Car, Zombie Mode, Tron. So it's just like like

818
00:53:51.400 --> 00:53:54.039
at some point they just said,
let's put everything we can think of in

819
00:53:54.119 --> 00:53:59.280
this game. Yeah, and like
at one point maybe someone a long boy

820
00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:01.440
said, shouldn't we make sure like
it's all awesome? They're like no,

821
00:54:02.679 --> 00:54:07.199
but it sounds like stuff. It's
pretty awesome. It sounds like the wheel,

822
00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:12.400
the actual behind the wheel when street
racing. The premium cars or well,

823
00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:15.239
whatever I drive, I don't drive
from cockpit view. I I don't

824
00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:17.719
like it. So I did hear
that's kind of, uh, kind of

825
00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:22.719
a set state of affairs for people
who like David says he loves cockpit view,

826
00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:25.000
but like on those non premium cars, that's yeah, that's kind that's

827
00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:28.239
pointless, kind kind of ship.
What do you get? You don't get

828
00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:31.679
like custom cockpit art or so you
don't get any there's no cockpit view standard

829
00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:36.199
cars. Yeah, I think I
don't want to. I'm not sure because

830
00:54:36.199 --> 00:54:37.360
I haven't played it, but that's
what sounds. Yeah, that's civic that

831
00:54:37.400 --> 00:54:40.719
I have does not happen. It's
just like floating cam. It's just lumbercam.

832
00:54:40.920 --> 00:54:44.880
Yeah. Yeah. So they've got
like bumper cam, hood cam,

833
00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:47.559
you know behind the back back like
chase view or whatever. But you wouldn't

834
00:54:47.559 --> 00:54:51.559
want that. Yeah, so it's
like they don't they don't have that.

835
00:54:51.679 --> 00:54:57.039
Like at some point, I guess, I don't know, I questioned the

836
00:54:57.360 --> 00:55:00.960
decision to go for quantity over quality
because it really seems like that's what they

837
00:55:01.039 --> 00:55:04.639
did from from looking at all the
stuff that's available, and you look at

838
00:55:04.639 --> 00:55:06.719
it and you're like, it's kind
of overwhelming because they're like, man,

839
00:55:06.760 --> 00:55:09.000
there's all these menus, and there's
like five menus too many for every single

840
00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:13.239
option that I want to do.
But man, there's a lot in this

841
00:55:13.360 --> 00:55:15.239
game. But then you kind of
get to it and you're like, well,

842
00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:19.719
I don't really want I don't really
want to drive a NASCAR uh,

843
00:55:20.519 --> 00:55:24.320
Like as a half asked kind of
side thing, like people that want NASCAR

844
00:55:24.440 --> 00:55:28.519
will go buy the NASCAR game,
and there are games out there that do

845
00:55:28.679 --> 00:55:30.559
off road racing better, you know, So it's like, why would you

846
00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:35.920
turn to Grant Resmo for all these
specialty types of racing When you've got like

847
00:55:36.199 --> 00:55:40.679
dirt or when you've got you've got
like that style, Like like those games

848
00:55:40.760 --> 00:55:45.239
dedicated to that style of racing are
almost always gonna end up being more satisfying,

849
00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:49.800
I think, than than something that
is spreading itself so thin. But

850
00:55:49.920 --> 00:55:52.599
does anyone ever bring that that quite
the same level of Like I think a

851
00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:54.880
lot of people would argue that,
you know, stuff like dirt is fairly

852
00:55:55.039 --> 00:55:59.440
arcady. I think it's as far
as as far as the way that they

853
00:55:59.559 --> 00:56:02.039
represent and because the thing about Grand
Treisma has always been just like pure simulation,

854
00:56:02.119 --> 00:56:06.960
like this is just this is like
driving the car's flight simulator. I

855
00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:09.760
feel like it's probably best when you're
driving actual cars on the actual courses.

856
00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:14.599
Yeah, not the like for that. Yeah, it's probably unmatched, but

857
00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:17.840
well in terms of console games,
like E Racing is probably is probably better.

858
00:56:19.119 --> 00:56:21.920
I still know. I still agree
though that you know, for Grand

859
00:56:21.960 --> 00:56:24.320
Tresmo, what I would want from
Grand Tresmo is closed course, like fucking

860
00:56:24.440 --> 00:56:29.639
high end cars. Yeah, like
that's those are those are the factors well

861
00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:31.840
from what I sell. And you
guys were playing in the snow, it's

862
00:56:31.880 --> 00:56:36.239
like if you compare that to something
like dirt right, and it's like those

863
00:56:36.320 --> 00:56:39.239
guys understand that, like they want
to get their cars dirty. There's gonna

864
00:56:39.239 --> 00:56:43.599
be mud flying everywhere, there's gonna
be stuff on your windshield, all sorts

865
00:56:43.639 --> 00:56:45.559
of all the stuff you want from
track deformation. Yeah, and like when

866
00:56:45.559 --> 00:56:49.679
you guys are on the snow,
it really did look like, hey,

867
00:56:49.800 --> 00:56:52.360
we're making a sim here, like
flight simulator, and we're not really worried

868
00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:55.320
about that stuff. We're more concerned, We're less concerned about what it looks

869
00:56:55.360 --> 00:57:00.519
like we're more concerned about putting time
laps on or something like that. You

870
00:57:00.559 --> 00:57:05.239
know, like we understand that you're
gonna be basically getting too if you get

871
00:57:05.320 --> 00:57:07.599
too close to the ground texture,
it's gonna look weird. And we never

872
00:57:07.679 --> 00:57:09.960
expect you to do that. And
like the puffs of snow that were coming

873
00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:14.639
out from the car, and like
you said, like other games that focus

874
00:57:14.719 --> 00:57:16.760
on that stuff are gonna model that
stuff, and that's all we're gonna do.

875
00:57:16.840 --> 00:57:20.280
We have to make their dirt and
mud look great. Our game is

876
00:57:20.320 --> 00:57:22.280
called dirt. Yeah, we can't
not have good dirt and that stuff looks

877
00:57:22.320 --> 00:57:25.320
great. And even stuff like a
motor storm like that stuff when you're that's

878
00:57:25.360 --> 00:57:29.320
super arcadie, like you're going through
mud and stuff that looks great. I

879
00:57:29.400 --> 00:57:32.159
mean storms, this the motorized storms. I don't know how the handling was,

880
00:57:32.239 --> 00:57:36.639
but it looked weird. It looked
it looked like something like it didn't

881
00:57:36.679 --> 00:57:38.599
necessarily feel like I was driving on
snow. It was. It was a

882
00:57:38.599 --> 00:57:42.400
little slippy or a little a little
looser or something like that, but it

883
00:57:42.599 --> 00:57:45.599
didn't feel like a true off road
racing game. I don't know, I

884
00:57:45.639 --> 00:57:49.400
don't know Dave's been playing the shit
out of it for for review purposes,

885
00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:55.039
enjoying Simy's really enjoying the part where
you drive the cars, but but not

886
00:57:55.239 --> 00:57:58.320
so much. And I've got my
copy and I don't want to jump into

887
00:57:58.360 --> 00:58:00.920
it soon. But it's kind of
one of the reasons why I'm stilling the

888
00:58:00.920 --> 00:58:05.079
fence of that wheels like I kind
of and maybe this is idiotic of me,

889
00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:07.559
but I kind of feel like I'm
just not going to get the proper

890
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:09.440
experience if I don't for some reason, like they're forcing me to be like,

891
00:58:09.880 --> 00:58:13.840
no, this is the same game, Like this isn't you want to

892
00:58:13.960 --> 00:58:16.719
enjoy this properly. Still, I've
always just felt like wheels don't go far

893
00:58:16.880 --> 00:58:21.840
enough, like they don't feel like
in games like that. When I've driven

894
00:58:21.880 --> 00:58:23.400
with a wheel I just feel more
detached from it than I would with a

895
00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:29.000
controller, because it's like they get
some of the feedback in there, but

896
00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:31.000
it too, you know. Then
then all of a sudden, it's like,

897
00:58:31.079 --> 00:58:34.440
well, now I don't have any
inertia, you know. Now you

898
00:58:34.480 --> 00:58:37.360
know I'm not in a moving car, and and this I don't I don't

899
00:58:37.480 --> 00:58:40.960
feel I'm not getting the feedback through
the pedals and the wheel and stuff that

900
00:58:42.000 --> 00:58:45.559
I would necessarily get out of a
real car, to the extent that I

901
00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:46.559
would get it out of a real
car, right, So it doesn't feel

902
00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:52.519
like it's a Yeah, it's just
like it uncanny valley of driving controllers or

903
00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:53.800
something. The closer they get,
the more you just notice, like it

904
00:58:53.880 --> 00:58:58.519
doesn't feel right. Then you're just
noticing the interface. It's like it's it's

905
00:58:58.639 --> 00:59:00.480
with a controller. It's kind of
more visible, right, like even though

906
00:59:01.039 --> 00:59:06.239
more to play everything, it's more
abstracted. But like that doesn't I saw

907
00:59:06.559 --> 00:59:08.639
I saw when I was looking about
getting the wheel stuff, I saw somebody

908
00:59:08.719 --> 00:59:13.719
who had said they had mapped the
gear shift onto the right analog stick for

909
00:59:13.960 --> 00:59:17.239
a grant Roismo. And that's pretty
genius. That sounds like a great idea

910
00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:21.519
because that's the thing like with a
I hate shifting on the shoulders, I

911
00:59:21.639 --> 00:59:24.639
kind of climbing up with stuff.
Yeah, but maybe on the thumb stick

912
00:59:24.639 --> 00:59:29.559
it will be fun. I don't
know. I think different people are gonna

913
00:59:29.559 --> 00:59:31.360
want different things out of a racing
game, and I think there's a real

914
00:59:31.440 --> 00:59:37.639
specific crowd of people that grant Raismo
is exactly what they want. But that

915
00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:45.000
seems like now more than ever that
seems like a narrow group. I think

916
00:59:45.039 --> 00:59:50.599
that UI stuff is a real turn
off. It's crazy, is baffling,

917
00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:53.840
like just just nested menus and just
just like the layout of menus on the

918
00:59:53.880 --> 00:59:57.840
screen. Like try to go to
the options menu sometime and look at all

919
00:59:57.880 --> 01:00:00.119
the wheel stuff. Yeah, and
look at they set it up. It's

920
01:00:00.159 --> 01:00:05.239
like there are different options on just
like main menu for controllers or whatever,

921
01:00:05.559 --> 01:00:07.800
for every type of wheel. They
officially support player one and player two,

922
01:00:08.199 --> 01:00:13.840
so it's like I need set player
two's Logitech G twenty five settings, and

923
01:00:14.320 --> 01:00:15.199
that's in there as a separate old
menu. It's like, why not just

924
01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:19.159
have like wheel settings and then go
in there and pick which type of wheel

925
01:00:19.159 --> 01:00:21.920
you have? All the very stuff
when they shouldn't, and they expose it

926
01:00:22.000 --> 01:00:24.440
when they should. Yeah, it's
yeah, it's very weird. It's weird.

927
01:00:24.760 --> 01:00:29.320
Installing weird, a weird thing to
critique a game on, but something

928
01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:31.119
that was I think pretty noticeable.
Yeah, I'm just like I don't know

929
01:00:31.199 --> 01:00:35.719
where to go. Also, the
installing. When you start the install,

930
01:00:35.760 --> 01:00:37.880
it says this will take about twenty
minutes, and it says that for about

931
01:00:38.320 --> 01:00:42.800
thirty minutes. Well then the fact
that it never loads. It just installs.

932
01:00:42.920 --> 01:00:45.519
I think it's kind of funny,
like like I watching that quickly.

933
01:00:45.639 --> 01:00:50.880
The feedback is even if you do
that, install, like every loading screen

934
01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:53.599
still just says installing, right,
so it's like installing more after. It's

935
01:00:53.599 --> 01:00:58.719
like they never wanted to say it's
a trick of the minds never say loading,

936
01:00:58.800 --> 01:01:00.840
and they never can complain about load
times. It's just in stall salt

937
01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:05.199
snakes standing they're smoking a cigarette.
You don't even know it's done. That

938
01:01:05.280 --> 01:01:07.119
if they just had solid snakes and
they're smoking a cigarette, that if they've

939
01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:10.159
just been a car spinning donuts.
But sometimes it seems like the screen just

940
01:01:10.519 --> 01:01:14.559
hangs yeah, and it's just like, why I assume this is loading?

941
01:01:14.679 --> 01:01:16.679
Not kind of the major loads.
It'll fade out to that like transparent GT

942
01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:20.679
logo, but no progress bar,
right, no progress bar, nothing like

943
01:01:20.719 --> 01:01:22.119
that. It just kind of sits
there for a bit. It's just like,

944
01:01:22.239 --> 01:01:24.159
hang out, listen to this smooth
jazz. I'll get some Boston Ova

945
01:01:24.199 --> 01:01:28.599
for you and then later that's that's
probably the thing that bumms me out the

946
01:01:28.679 --> 01:01:31.320
most about the jazz is like I
actually like the jazz is great. This

947
01:01:31.559 --> 01:01:35.320
is bad jazz, you know,
like you don't like smooth jams. No,

948
01:01:35.559 --> 01:01:38.679
not at all, Like there's really
great jazz. I like JA jazz.

949
01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:44.480
It's my favorite jazz. Japanese jass, smooth j jazz, smooth j

950
01:01:44.599 --> 01:01:49.039
jazz. It's it's so j smooth
j jazz. It's Japanese smooth and it's

951
01:01:49.119 --> 01:01:52.559
Japanese jazz. It's like the worst. It's literally, yeah, j smooth

952
01:01:52.639 --> 01:01:55.679
jazz. And that the new cartoon
cat that Paul Abdul's are rapping with.

953
01:01:55.880 --> 01:02:09.360
Yeah, and she Scatt that's out
arrested jazz is in. It's just like

954
01:02:09.559 --> 01:02:15.440
it's it's really elevator music. It
just sounds like the I would say this.

955
01:02:15.559 --> 01:02:17.519
I think it sounds like what I
would expect to hear, like in

956
01:02:17.639 --> 01:02:21.840
the lobby of a high end car
dealership. I don't even like it.

957
01:02:22.119 --> 01:02:25.559
Yeah, if I if I walked
into the Jaguar dealership think in San Francisco,

958
01:02:25.639 --> 01:02:29.400
it's kind of what I would expect
to hear. So like, I

959
01:02:29.480 --> 01:02:32.719
think I think that it matches that
it it fits the car catalog vibe,

960
01:02:32.800 --> 01:02:37.199
that that they kind of want that
whole game to give off. That doesn't

961
01:02:37.199 --> 01:02:40.599
make it not fucking really terrible but
it's but it seems to like some of

962
01:02:40.679 --> 01:02:44.519
this stuff has been in previous grand
Urismo games. But I feel like even

963
01:02:44.559 --> 01:02:47.119
with like Prologue, like they rain
it in, they rain a lot of

964
01:02:47.159 --> 01:02:51.840
that stuff there sure and make it
like relatively easy to get around and relatively

965
01:02:51.880 --> 01:02:54.039
easy to Like. The car catalog
thing, I think worked a lot better

966
01:02:54.159 --> 01:02:59.599
even in prologue than it does here
here. It just doesn't. It's like

967
01:02:59.679 --> 01:03:00.920
the car models. It just takes
so much time to appear and all the

968
01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:05.199
stuff, like you just sit there
and notice like every little thing, because

969
01:03:05.320 --> 01:03:08.679
it's it gives you plenty of time
to notice it. You can't stream any

970
01:03:08.800 --> 01:03:13.199
music off here or hard Driver didn't
see. I'm like, oh, I

971
01:03:13.239 --> 01:03:20.639
don't know if this certain specific games
actually do let you. I think they

972
01:03:20.679 --> 01:03:23.519
do let you pull your own music
for the game. I want to say,

973
01:03:23.519 --> 01:03:28.519
I saw that unlock that that's for. I've heard some stuff about the

974
01:03:28.639 --> 01:03:34.000
Japanese version having also completely different music
in it. That's that's par for the

975
01:03:34.079 --> 01:03:37.360
course. The middle, it's the
best. The best music the Grand Riismo

976
01:03:37.360 --> 01:03:40.199
has ever had has been the car
wash music in the Japanese version of I

977
01:03:40.400 --> 01:03:44.840
want to say the first Grand Rearismo
that's been the best they have car washing

978
01:03:44.880 --> 01:03:46.599
in this, but it's they need
to bring back the original car wash music.

979
01:03:46.639 --> 01:03:51.079
I'm unfamiliar with this. What do
you do during a car wash part?

980
01:03:51.199 --> 01:03:55.639
It's it's been well actually in the
first car was no, that'd be

981
01:03:55.719 --> 01:03:59.880
good. But no, they have
their own car wash theame I got,

982
01:04:02.039 --> 01:04:04.000
No, you did not. This
is not a first person car wash.

983
01:04:04.480 --> 01:04:08.880
In this they actually showed dudes wiping
your car down real quick, like you

984
01:04:08.920 --> 01:04:12.840
can also change the oil. This
show got changed. I don't know.

985
01:04:12.840 --> 01:04:15.559
I didn't change it. Well,
did always change your cost money? Yeah?

986
01:04:15.679 --> 01:04:18.840
Cross when you've washed the car too? Any any headway on the head

987
01:04:18.920 --> 01:04:24.920
tracking stuff it's in there, I
didn't get anything. I didn't turn it

988
01:04:25.000 --> 01:04:30.360
on. Online reports from people say
it's not so hot, but I don't

989
01:04:30.360 --> 01:04:33.639
know. I haven't tried that stuff
since E three, where I didn't necessarily

990
01:04:33.880 --> 01:04:36.199
think it was all that cool.
I can't wait to dig in. I

991
01:04:36.360 --> 01:04:40.119
want to check it out. You
can't turn with a move controller. No,

992
01:04:40.599 --> 01:04:43.480
no, strapped to the top of
your head. God no, Well,

993
01:04:43.519 --> 01:04:46.039
I mean even just like turn the
like I'm holding a steering wheel,

994
01:04:46.760 --> 01:04:49.960
but I've got two move controllers in
my hands. Don't move your feet.

995
01:04:51.320 --> 01:04:57.320
Yeah, hunch did Treo is gonna
drive this car? Yeah, I don't

996
01:04:57.320 --> 01:05:00.719
know. I'm still very curious about
it. Back Grand Reason. Do you

997
01:05:00.760 --> 01:05:04.679
think they'll make another one? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I

998
01:05:04.719 --> 01:05:09.599
don't know. There's some quote like
the week before that this had actually shipped,

999
01:05:09.679 --> 01:05:12.880
where dude from Polyphony it was saying, yeah, we're thinking about Grand

1000
01:05:12.920 --> 01:05:15.559
chrismas sex, Like, no,
you're not. I mean, don't get

1001
01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:18.840
to I bet this game sell as
well. I mean it's gonna again.

1002
01:05:18.920 --> 01:05:21.719
I have my copy sitting there ready
to go. It's a I bought two

1003
01:05:21.760 --> 01:05:26.880
of them. Yeah, and you
know that's huge and I bet it's it's

1004
01:05:26.920 --> 01:05:29.320
really big in Japan. I'm sure
it's huge in Europe, and uh,

1005
01:05:29.800 --> 01:05:32.639
I bet it'll sell decently in the
States. So I wonder what they probably

1006
01:05:32.719 --> 01:05:38.559
has the best name recognition of any
yeah, racing game out there for video

1007
01:05:38.639 --> 01:05:41.599
games. Yes, it's not like
there's a ton of competition for serious racing

1008
01:05:41.639 --> 01:05:44.880
games either. So you know,
if you're any kind of racing games,

1009
01:05:44.960 --> 01:05:46.320
that's true. Yeah. If if
you're like sitting there going like, well,

1010
01:05:46.320 --> 01:05:48.719
I don't really care about need for
speed because it's for kids. Yeah,

1011
01:05:48.840 --> 01:05:53.760
then this is kind of it.
This and forts and are all you

1012
01:05:53.880 --> 01:05:56.719
get, so but pick one or
the other. My wonder is will it

1013
01:05:56.960 --> 01:05:59.519
will it sell? What they think
it will sell? Like I think we'll

1014
01:05:59.519 --> 01:06:01.320
do fine, but I wonder if
it'll sell. I think I don't even

1015
01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:05.239
know what they're what they would think
that that game should sell really considering how

1016
01:06:05.320 --> 01:06:11.239
much times, what kind of costs
are there to years of development. I

1017
01:06:11.280 --> 01:06:13.599
don't know. I don't know.
I don't know. It kind of doesn't

1018
01:06:13.599 --> 01:06:16.119
matter. I don't think that you
can I don't know. I don't quantify.

1019
01:06:16.199 --> 01:06:18.800
I don't think you can think that
way. I think when you're talking

1020
01:06:18.840 --> 01:06:21.320
about you know, kind of a
prestige title like this, this is,

1021
01:06:21.400 --> 01:06:25.559
and how long have they actually been
working on it, Like it's been six

1022
01:06:25.679 --> 01:06:29.199
years since the last game. But
it doesn't mean they just like one week

1023
01:06:29.320 --> 01:06:31.400
later went like all right, let's
go. It's not like Full Team ramp

1024
01:06:31.480 --> 01:06:34.760
Up for six years. I'm sure
there's probably like some dudes sitting around thinking

1025
01:06:34.800 --> 01:06:38.280
about like when this PlayStation three comes
out. You know what, I don't

1026
01:06:38.320 --> 01:06:42.440
want to do this BMWs. I
like BMW's two. You guys want to

1027
01:06:42.519 --> 01:06:45.599
take some microphones out and put them
under BMW. Let's school. Let's go

1028
01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:50.199
to BMW town. All right,
So what we also like like audies?

1029
01:06:51.199 --> 01:06:56.880
You want to take some microphones out
put? Yeah, let's do. Let's

1030
01:06:56.880 --> 01:07:02.719
go buy some outies. We got
to like GT four forecast. It's a

1031
01:07:02.840 --> 01:07:06.719
really good microphone. We need new
microphones. Those last microphones we use our

1032
01:07:06.760 --> 01:07:11.480
shot and then it was like a
year ago. They're like, we can't

1033
01:07:11.519 --> 01:07:15.280
record all these cars. We recorded
as many cars as we could, already

1034
01:07:15.480 --> 01:07:19.800
recorded a bunch of cars for with
our old microphones to just use those,

1035
01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:23.800
how would we just bring those in? And how's it? How's our copo

1036
01:07:23.920 --> 01:07:26.320
guy doing? He's doing? No, seriously, how's he doing? How

1037
01:07:26.360 --> 01:07:29.320
many cars has he done? Fine? Like you know, we've only got

1038
01:07:29.360 --> 01:07:33.199
the one guy? All right?
So all right, so we're just we

1039
01:07:33.320 --> 01:07:36.719
should have a meeting. We can't. We can't put cockpits into all of

1040
01:07:36.719 --> 01:07:42.800
these games. I think it's okay
if the car logo license plate on this

1041
01:07:43.000 --> 01:07:45.320
car looks like it fell out of
a PlayStation two? Who is going to

1042
01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:49.119
fight me on this? You guys
want to ship this game? Right's let's

1043
01:07:49.119 --> 01:07:51.280
go with us and we can.
We can do these cars. We can

1044
01:07:51.320 --> 01:07:55.199
we can ship this game which like
you know, a decent amount of cars,

1045
01:07:55.840 --> 01:07:58.440
or watch this, watch do the
import thing? We import all the

1046
01:07:58.480 --> 01:08:00.599
old cars from all the old games. Boom yeah, or we do that?

1047
01:08:01.239 --> 01:08:03.920
Do it? Do it? Go
go go, I want to go

1048
01:08:04.079 --> 01:08:14.960
test have some more outies. Absolutely
scene our little play the development of granting

1049
01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:17.520
there SMO five. Thank you for
joining us. The preceding was the work

1050
01:08:17.520 --> 01:08:27.399
of fiction created by people with multiple
religious flatures. Breast Shoemaker Borderlands, Borderlands

1051
01:08:27.880 --> 01:08:31.520
talking more like moorder, I got
nothing. What's up with? My girlfriend

1052
01:08:31.600 --> 01:08:36.399
calls it boring Lands. She hates
it, really she does not. It

1053
01:08:36.439 --> 01:08:40.359
doesn't seem like a game to watch. It can't be a pleasant game to

1054
01:08:40.439 --> 01:08:44.439
watch. It is a punishing game
to watch. It's it's a pretty awesome

1055
01:08:44.479 --> 01:08:50.920
game to play until the end when
it fucking suns. You experienced the full

1056
01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:55.920
arc. I know why that it
got like, man, I love this

1057
01:08:56.039 --> 01:09:00.159
game, but oh it's now.
I agree with everything you said about that

1058
01:09:00.239 --> 01:09:03.000
game a year ago. Yeah,
dude, that the rack Hive and that

1059
01:09:03.079 --> 01:09:09.119
final boss I had left off somewhere
in New Haven like rust Commons a couple

1060
01:09:09.199 --> 01:09:13.680
hours before the rack Hive. No
thanks to Vinny, dude, I made

1061
01:09:13.720 --> 01:09:17.159
it out made it through the end
of the game. I could have.

1062
01:09:17.600 --> 01:09:23.079
I't. I didn't want to interrupt
your your plowing through the story of that

1063
01:09:23.159 --> 01:09:27.520
game. Uh yeah, Me and
a buddy from back home played through the

1064
01:09:27.640 --> 01:09:30.760
end of the regular game. Yeah
so Mark, Yes, okay, opened

1065
01:09:30.880 --> 01:09:38.359
uh opened the vault? Yeah man, Yeah, that you might at the

1066
01:09:38.479 --> 01:09:41.279
end of that game is pretty terrible. That if like if I had been

1067
01:09:41.359 --> 01:09:43.840
you, if I had bought that
game when it came out and played all

1068
01:09:43.840 --> 01:09:45.079
the way through it, and that's
all there was, Like I've got four

1069
01:09:45.159 --> 01:09:49.000
DLC packs to play, right,
Yeah, but a lot of the promise

1070
01:09:49.039 --> 01:09:51.119
of that game. But yeah,
it's when that game was new. If

1071
01:09:51.119 --> 01:09:54.359
you got to that point, that
was all there was, and it was

1072
01:09:54.439 --> 01:09:58.720
either play through all of it again
by standing still, by standing still and

1073
01:09:58.840 --> 01:10:01.319
pushing the trigger over and over again, two consecutive losses at the end of

1074
01:10:01.359 --> 01:10:04.199
the game. That's all you do. Yeah, just so much room for

1075
01:10:04.279 --> 01:10:08.760
improvement. Yeah. So you still
have all the deals? Yeah yeah,

1076
01:10:08.760 --> 01:10:11.039
so makes me feel make me feel
good about playing the deal. So well,

1077
01:10:11.039 --> 01:10:13.720
you're like level twelve or something.
Let's do bring me out all right,

1078
01:10:14.520 --> 01:10:18.720
I don't even can you do that? I'm pretty low want to finish

1079
01:10:18.760 --> 01:10:20.520
the game. Let's go. Let's
go finish the game. Let's make an

1080
01:10:20.560 --> 01:10:25.279
appointment. Okay, message me,
I will okay, I'll send you an

1081
01:10:25.319 --> 01:10:27.720
invite, can play, you can
play through. I still need to finish

1082
01:10:27.760 --> 01:10:31.439
Borderlands man too. I heard that
game is pretty good. It's not bad

1083
01:10:32.079 --> 01:10:35.000
that there's a lot of room for
improvement. Should they make a sequel?

1084
01:10:35.039 --> 01:10:40.640
Are you playing solow Lo? It
was answered the question I have a soldier

1085
01:10:41.239 --> 01:10:45.960
soldia, friend had a hunter the
bird. Everyone has a soldier. Yeah,

1086
01:10:45.039 --> 01:10:48.800
I've got a soldier, I think, Yeah, Drew's got a soldier.

1087
01:10:48.800 --> 01:10:55.119
You got a soldier? Like lots
of soldiering here, but so so

1088
01:10:55.239 --> 01:10:59.319
Yeah. I mean, I guess
since since that my speakers going hammer great,

1089
01:11:00.199 --> 01:11:01.800
uh, since that Game of the
Year edition is newish, Yeah,

1090
01:11:01.920 --> 01:11:04.800
I guess, Like how to play
the DLC is kind of a pertinent topic,

1091
01:11:05.399 --> 01:11:08.760
and also I need to know,
so tell me, well, I

1092
01:11:08.800 --> 01:11:10.880
mean, you mean, like,
what order to? I mean I think

1093
01:11:10.920 --> 01:11:13.439
you could totally just jump into it
now and play through whatever you want to.

1094
01:11:13.840 --> 01:11:15.800
Yeah, any order you want,
Like it's not like General Knox is

1095
01:11:15.880 --> 01:11:19.239
right after the end of the main
game or just a sort of doesn't matter.

1096
01:11:19.359 --> 01:11:23.199
Okay, like it's it's all separate
enough to where you could play General

1097
01:11:23.279 --> 01:11:27.239
Knox without having finished the main game. But General Knox was the last one

1098
01:11:27.359 --> 01:11:31.880
that came well Cloud the last the
General Knox is the one they positioned as

1099
01:11:31.960 --> 01:11:35.319
kind of like the continuation of games. That was the one that had the

1100
01:11:35.399 --> 01:11:39.199
level cap raise and all that stuff. Yeah, but at the same time,

1101
01:11:39.399 --> 01:11:42.479
you know that stuff scales, so
you could kind of play it whenever.

1102
01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:45.039
Uh. And in addition to that, the way they've written it,

1103
01:11:45.199 --> 01:11:50.479
all those things kind of take place
slightly out of fiction or something like that.

1104
01:11:50.640 --> 01:11:57.279
Like they're all set as like goofy
stories that you're not really sure where

1105
01:11:57.319 --> 01:11:59.439
they take place or when they take
place. They all kind of are I

1106
01:11:59.479 --> 01:12:01.239
guess they do kind of mentioned like
it's after the vault has been open like

1107
01:12:02.119 --> 01:12:06.199
stuff. It seems like a yeah, that's a completely fictional sidebar. It's

1108
01:12:06.239 --> 01:12:12.520
like they kind of have story.
Yeah, none of the story stuff matters

1109
01:12:12.600 --> 01:12:15.720
in any of that stuff for for
the most parts, So we say that

1110
01:12:15.720 --> 01:12:19.239
about the main game as well,
but yeah, kind of it's kind of

1111
01:12:19.279 --> 01:12:24.600
just like Level Up Quest Shoots.
Yeah, now that the main game,

1112
01:12:24.680 --> 01:12:27.960
like you're fine to play any of
that DEALC in any order. But if

1113
01:12:28.119 --> 01:12:30.039
if someone said, like I didn't
want to finish the main game, I

1114
01:12:30.079 --> 01:12:30.760
wouldn't play all this stuff. Like
I wouldn't be like, oh, you

1115
01:12:30.800 --> 01:12:38.359
did it wrong. It's it's fine, but to some references to uh,

1116
01:12:38.920 --> 01:12:42.840
you know, late game main quest
stuff are made in some of those DLC

1117
01:12:43.000 --> 01:12:47.880
packs, but not not references that
actually matter. All right, So that

1118
01:12:48.039 --> 01:12:51.119
was your whole break. No,
I played other stuff, but it's all

1119
01:12:51.159 --> 01:12:57.600
stuff that's been discust to add nauseum. Tell me, yeah, you like

1120
01:12:57.680 --> 01:13:01.199
it. Thanks for teaching me how
to drift, man. I can totally

1121
01:13:01.239 --> 01:13:04.079
play that game now. It's awesome. I beat some of Jeff's times.

1122
01:13:04.119 --> 01:13:08.880
I'm so excited. Great, oh
man. And also there's like you and

1123
01:13:08.960 --> 01:13:12.600
maybe two other people on my entire
friends list who are still doing the events

1124
01:13:12.680 --> 01:13:15.479
that I'm doing now. No,
like I would love to see. I'm

1125
01:13:15.520 --> 01:13:17.439
sure he has got their internal data
of like here's all the people that started

1126
01:13:17.479 --> 01:13:21.079
the game, and it's like,
what is the number of people that have

1127
01:13:21.119 --> 01:13:24.840
completed this event? Yeah, because
I checked, I've got like close to

1128
01:13:24.880 --> 01:13:28.640
the thirty people and my friends list
playing that game. Wow. But I'm

1129
01:13:28.720 --> 01:13:34.600
like level seven as a cop and
it's you justin uh, like maybe one

1130
01:13:34.600 --> 01:13:39.680
other dude, yeah, and Rich
on the leaderboards and me, and that's

1131
01:13:39.720 --> 01:13:42.800
it. At level seven. That's
not even like halfway through one half of

1132
01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:45.399
the progression. Yeah, that's crazy. I think it's you know, hopefully

1133
01:13:45.399 --> 01:13:48.560
it's because people are just really digging
the online because the online is really good.

1134
01:13:49.800 --> 01:13:53.600
Well, it's also like the that
single player is structured in such a

1135
01:13:53.640 --> 01:13:57.119
way. I've only played a couple
of hours of it, but like between

1136
01:13:57.199 --> 01:14:00.600
the like cop progression and the racer
prog and it would be easy for you

1137
01:14:00.680 --> 01:14:04.319
to like get half a level up
in cop stuff and decide, all right,

1138
01:14:04.319 --> 01:14:09.119
I'm just gonna go and do some
racer stuff while so I got yeah,

1139
01:14:09.159 --> 01:14:12.600
I'm like level ten and both.
Really I decided to just like I'm

1140
01:14:12.640 --> 01:14:15.680
just playing straight cop right now.
The cops, I think, at least

1141
01:14:15.680 --> 01:14:18.640
at least kind of like right off
the bat, like the equipment is like

1142
01:14:18.720 --> 01:14:20.560
the EMP and all that stuff.
I know, you get some of that

1143
01:14:20.600 --> 01:14:23.720
stuff as a racer, but it's
a lot a lot heavier. It's just

1144
01:14:24.359 --> 01:14:29.319
it feels more like burnout when you're
playing kind of It's it's like stop the

1145
01:14:29.359 --> 01:14:31.560
car. How do you stop the
car? Wreck the car. Okay,

1146
01:14:31.560 --> 01:14:33.439
all right, yeah, oh I
played, Okay, I know how to

1147
01:14:33.439 --> 01:14:36.920
play this game. Then we're good. Give me that heavy and also I

1148
01:14:39.239 --> 01:14:43.760
get to drive the Crown VIC and
more than anything, I love driving that

1149
01:14:43.840 --> 01:14:48.439
fucking that interceptor beautiful car. Yeah, I think I was mostly driving a

1150
01:14:48.520 --> 01:14:54.079
three seventiesy cop car. I think
I think effective for taking people back to

1151
01:14:54.880 --> 01:14:59.359
jail. I think, yeah,
yeah, I don't have to got to

1152
01:14:59.399 --> 01:15:02.720
kill him a body bag, knock
them off. This this bridge, not

1153
01:15:03.039 --> 01:15:05.520
online, really is a lot of
fun. I wish that you spent less

1154
01:15:05.560 --> 01:15:09.359
time. This is like a common
theme in driving games now, way less

1155
01:15:09.399 --> 01:15:12.920
time and menus than you do.
I feel like the time that you're not

1156
01:15:13.079 --> 01:15:16.640
racing in that game is excessive.
Yeah. The menu for the career stuff,

1157
01:15:16.640 --> 01:15:20.720
I feel is is not great because
it is so focused about beating your

1158
01:15:20.720 --> 01:15:24.640
friends times and stuff like that that
you know, if you don't want to

1159
01:15:24.680 --> 01:15:26.880
do that and you just want to
like finish events and all that, and

1160
01:15:27.199 --> 01:15:30.399
it's it's not always easy to dig
through the map and go to the ones

1161
01:15:30.479 --> 01:15:34.840
you haven't played. And I wish
that there was just a here's what the

1162
01:15:34.920 --> 01:15:40.159
next thing is? Yeah, yeah, play next makes you miss Burnout Paradise.

1163
01:15:40.319 --> 01:15:45.119
Yeah, anyway, Uh, Dead
Nation, let's talk about dead nations

1164
01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:47.319
real quick. An he played some
Dead Nation. Yeah, I don't know

1165
01:15:47.359 --> 01:15:51.119
anything about that nation. It's it's
house Mark. It's out today. It's

1166
01:15:51.159 --> 01:15:54.920
house Mark, the guys who did
Superstar dost HD. It's on the place.

1167
01:15:57.039 --> 01:15:59.399
I don't know. Actually, I
don't think so. I don't remember

1168
01:15:59.399 --> 01:16:03.760
seeing any three option. This game
is not run it's sixty frames a second

1169
01:16:03.800 --> 01:16:06.720
like Startus did, so I don't
know if it would really lend itself to

1170
01:16:08.640 --> 01:16:13.479
so much. It's a top down
little joystick zombie shooter. Uh, and

1171
01:16:13.560 --> 01:16:16.119
it's pretty good. How is it
different from Burn Zombie Burn? Well,

1172
01:16:16.159 --> 01:16:21.039
that that is a super like cartoony
arcady sort of high score chase. And

1173
01:16:21.159 --> 01:16:25.560
this is like kind of like lightly
story driven. Is it like like a

1174
01:16:25.640 --> 01:16:29.359
level based with like like level based
and with a like sort of character development

1175
01:16:29.399 --> 01:16:31.960
progression, so like comic panels or
something. Yeah. Yeah, it's like

1176
01:16:32.279 --> 01:16:35.439
like graphic novel looking motion comic stuff. For the story. I mean,

1177
01:16:35.479 --> 01:16:39.800
the story is basically whatever, it's
did you get zambies? The whole thing

1178
01:16:39.920 --> 01:16:42.960
feels like left for Dead. There's
like boomer ripoffs and stuff like that.

1179
01:16:43.159 --> 01:16:45.439
But from like a top down Yeah, but from a top down perspective.

1180
01:16:45.439 --> 01:16:49.800
Alien Swarm is that the PC one
was the game. I guess it's a

1181
01:16:49.880 --> 01:16:54.439
little bit like that, like that
graphic style that was like yeah, yeah,

1182
01:16:54.520 --> 01:16:56.920
yeah that that game is like scenario
based, though this is very linear.

1183
01:16:57.000 --> 01:16:59.800
Go through level one, the level
two, it's but it's got two

1184
01:17:00.119 --> 01:17:02.840
co op online, which is cool
and like the persistence of leveling up.

1185
01:17:02.880 --> 01:17:06.000
But yeah, like you you basically
unlock lots of new weapons and a bunch

1186
01:17:06.000 --> 01:17:10.520
of upgrades for them and different pieces
of armor and stuff. But shoot the

1187
01:17:10.600 --> 01:17:15.000
hell out of some zombies. Yeah, but a lot of the particulars on

1188
01:17:15.039 --> 01:17:18.239
the combat design are really off putting
to me, like the super far out

1189
01:17:18.319 --> 01:17:21.439
camera, like everything is really small, but everything's also super dark, so

1190
01:17:21.520 --> 01:17:26.039
it's really hard to see what's attacking
you and where it's coming from. Zombies

1191
01:17:26.079 --> 01:17:28.960
man, Yeah, you know,
I guess you canna wear flashlights on their

1192
01:17:29.000 --> 01:17:31.600
head. Yeah, be ready,
unless they were miners before. Yeah,

1193
01:17:31.800 --> 01:17:35.159
that's a different game. There there
are let's see, there have been Hasmat

1194
01:17:35.319 --> 01:17:42.119
zombies, cops, zombies, clown
zombies. I think that hast still sound

1195
01:17:42.199 --> 01:17:45.119
like Left for Dead. I know, it all feels like you end up

1196
01:17:45.119 --> 01:17:46.600
in a carval at one point,
and that's where the clown zombies come in.

1197
01:17:46.720 --> 01:17:54.279
Like for five dollars sale, I
didn't have that. That's cheaper than

1198
01:17:54.319 --> 01:17:57.560
this. We should just play that. Yeah, hasn't I don't. I

1199
01:17:57.600 --> 01:18:01.960
don't really for super cheap A while
ago and I still haven't. I left

1200
01:18:01.960 --> 01:18:04.279
it. Did Two's really good?
I know I should know it again?

1201
01:18:04.520 --> 01:18:09.199
Too long ago. I did that. I did two after our board land.

1202
01:18:10.239 --> 01:18:15.880
Yeah, it will play Fable two. No, I don't want to

1203
01:18:15.920 --> 01:18:16.840
do that. Oh yeah, and
then I got Oh I got all the

1204
01:18:16.880 --> 01:18:21.239
nomes in Fable three? Did you
god? Fuck that game? Never playing

1205
01:18:21.279 --> 01:18:25.239
that game. Someone say that if
you wait like twenty minutes or sleep for

1206
01:18:25.279 --> 01:18:28.239
the eliving or twenty days or something. I saw that, Yeah, you

1207
01:18:28.239 --> 01:18:30.760
would get all the people back.
Did you up getting people? I think

1208
01:18:30.800 --> 01:18:32.840
I had to the houses as well. I didn't manually make my guys sleep

1209
01:18:32.880 --> 01:18:35.800
over and over, but i'd certainly
like passed a few days in game time

1210
01:18:36.119 --> 01:18:40.439
getting the nomes and nothing ever happened. There are still dead bodies lying all

1211
01:18:40.479 --> 01:18:43.439
over the place in the world.
Not only are no living people come back,

1212
01:18:43.560 --> 01:18:45.560
but you didn't get that in yours
I got. I got like,

1213
01:18:45.880 --> 01:18:49.319
it wasn't until after you mentioned it, because I didn't really have any for

1214
01:18:49.399 --> 01:18:55.680
one thing, the expressions in Fable
three are fucking useless and dumb and right,

1215
01:18:55.880 --> 01:18:59.039
So so I was like, I
have no There was never any any

1216
01:18:59.079 --> 01:19:02.600
reason for me to go in do
the interaction things. So I hadn't even

1217
01:19:02.640 --> 01:19:05.880
really noticed that my world was kind
of depopulated until I was like, Okay,

1218
01:19:05.880 --> 01:19:09.600
I'm gonna you know, I'm wrapping
up some of these achievements, so

1219
01:19:09.680 --> 01:19:14.079
I want to go and make friends
with twenty people and you know, have

1220
01:19:14.359 --> 01:19:19.079
six wives and murder two of them
and do all that weird stuff I could.

1221
01:19:19.119 --> 01:19:21.199
Eventually. It was just that they
were the population was so thin.

1222
01:19:21.239 --> 01:19:24.319
But no, you did have enough
people then, because I have no one.

1223
01:19:24.520 --> 01:19:27.279
Yeah, literally don't. I couldn't
find six women to marry if I

1224
01:19:27.359 --> 01:19:30.239
wanted to. But there are dead
bodies, there are corpses of townspeople.

1225
01:19:30.239 --> 01:19:34.800
Ever, let me let me spin
you a tail. Then you'll you'll appreciate

1226
01:19:34.880 --> 01:19:41.960
you'll appreciate this. So Wednesday night, last Wednesday, right before Thanksgiving break,

1227
01:19:42.600 --> 01:19:44.880
next morning, I was going to
hop up nice and early and get

1228
01:19:44.960 --> 01:19:49.199
in my car and drive Fresno California
for my annual Thanksgiving celebration with the family.

1229
01:19:50.119 --> 01:19:54.720
So I had popped in the Fable
three having I believe maybe the day

1230
01:19:54.800 --> 01:20:01.760
prior, having bought the U the
Understone, Yes Understone Quest pack, which

1231
01:20:01.840 --> 01:20:04.920
is part of the Day one d
C. It was already in the download

1232
01:20:05.000 --> 01:20:11.520
that you had to get on Day
one, but which like kind of the

1233
01:20:11.560 --> 01:20:15.840
worst thing about what that pack represents
is missions that you can grind on so

1234
01:20:16.000 --> 01:20:19.560
you can get the last of the
emblem, the Guild seals, the Guild

1235
01:20:19.600 --> 01:20:24.640
seals that you need to unlock the
chests on the Road to Ruin or whatever.

1236
01:20:26.319 --> 01:20:30.640
Uh So it's just like and it's
it's the shitty like arena and shooting

1237
01:20:30.680 --> 01:20:34.359
gallery things that were built into Fable
two, but they turned them into a

1238
01:20:34.960 --> 01:20:38.960
seven dollars DLC pack and you can
go through and you can go repeat the

1239
01:20:39.279 --> 01:20:43.319
uh the stuff in Rever's mansion.
Oh, it's basically as like a repeat

1240
01:20:43.359 --> 01:20:45.600
Gladiator. You can play through all
those waves of like arena cover again.

1241
01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:49.520
So it's it's in that context,
but it's it's the Wheel of Misfortune and

1242
01:20:49.640 --> 01:20:54.479
it's just like and it's like the
fucking the tower in Fable two where you

1243
01:20:54.520 --> 01:20:57.279
would go through the arena and then
here's a different arena with a different type

1244
01:20:57.279 --> 01:21:00.079
of enemy. It's kind of crazy
that they want to charge you money for

1245
01:21:00.199 --> 01:21:03.359
the privilege of doing that stuff repeatedly. There is okay, but there is

1246
01:21:03.479 --> 01:21:08.079
actually a good quest as part of
all that. The under City quest is

1247
01:21:08.159 --> 01:21:12.119
a good quest that's actually good.
So that part that's kind of like the

1248
01:21:12.600 --> 01:21:15.439
part of it that justifies any of
it. Anyway, I was just playing

1249
01:21:15.479 --> 01:21:20.680
some Vable three by myself and one
John Vignyaki decides to hop into my game.

1250
01:21:20.720 --> 01:21:23.800
He had been playing Fable three as
well, and he needed to get

1251
01:21:23.920 --> 01:21:26.960
married. He needed to do all
that stuff, get married and you know,

1252
01:21:28.079 --> 01:21:30.720
a kid and started partnership and all
that jazz. So I'm like,

1253
01:21:30.800 --> 01:21:31.680
we can we can do that.
We can work that out. We'll get

1254
01:21:31.720 --> 01:21:34.039
gay married and we'll adopt a gay
soon and it'll it'll be great. I

1255
01:21:34.039 --> 01:21:38.000
need to adopt a son anyways,
because I already turned the orphanage into a

1256
01:21:38.079 --> 01:21:43.520
whorehouse in my city, so I
could not actually have an orphan I could

1257
01:21:43.560 --> 01:21:46.800
not adopt an orphan because there weren't
orphanages because I did that. Anyways,

1258
01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:49.680
so we're running around in my world
for a bit, and I was kind

1259
01:21:49.720 --> 01:21:51.880
of experimenting, like, oh,
let's let me go on one of these

1260
01:21:53.000 --> 01:21:55.840
under City Let's go on the under
City quest and see if you can actually

1261
01:21:55.880 --> 01:21:57.760
tag along. And he could,
so that's kind of cool. You don't

1262
01:21:57.760 --> 01:21:59.800
need to buy the DLC. If
you have a friend that has the DLC,

1263
01:21:59.880 --> 01:22:01.840
you can still go on that mission. And that's why they put it

1264
01:22:01.880 --> 01:22:05.760
in that mandatory down. Yeah,
everyone has to have it right, right,

1265
01:22:05.880 --> 01:22:10.760
so it's a yeah, like like
that part I didn't, That wasn't

1266
01:22:10.800 --> 01:22:13.119
so bad. So we go through
some of that stuff and kind of reach

1267
01:22:13.159 --> 01:22:15.000
the point we're like, Okay,
there's nothing else that I can do here

1268
01:22:15.039 --> 01:22:17.000
and in my city. Oh that's
when we reached the point where I'm like,

1269
01:22:17.000 --> 01:22:20.000
I want to let's go adopt a
kid because he needed to have the

1270
01:22:21.079 --> 01:22:25.960
the pregnancy achievement and I needed the
adoption achievement. So we're like, hey,

1271
01:22:26.279 --> 01:22:28.840
let's quit out of my world and
I'll go join your world and then

1272
01:22:28.960 --> 01:22:31.920
we can do these things. So
we we get over there and we take

1273
01:22:31.920 --> 01:22:34.000
care of that business, and they're
like, Okay, let's let's go do

1274
01:22:34.079 --> 01:22:36.920
some quests because I still need to
grind out some more Guild Seals and I

1275
01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:41.159
had some other stuff. So all
right, there's a mission out in in

1276
01:22:41.279 --> 01:22:45.279
Aurora. So we we go out
to Aurora and we do this mission out

1277
01:22:45.279 --> 01:22:49.520
in the dirt. Find a bunch
of those shadows and sand furies ladies,

1278
01:22:51.359 --> 01:22:55.079
desert Ninjas, the desert Ninjas,
and we were like, all right,

1279
01:22:55.279 --> 01:22:58.640
desert Injas are dead. We accomplished
whatever stupid task we need to do out

1280
01:22:58.640 --> 01:23:00.560
in this pit. Let's run back. So we're running back and there's,

1281
01:23:00.600 --> 01:23:03.840
you know, there's one of those
big fucking doors where it's clearly like you're

1282
01:23:03.920 --> 01:23:08.199
running down kind of a short corridor
and then there's the big door. But

1283
01:23:08.239 --> 01:23:11.840
you're never actually supposed to reach the
door because it's the load point before you

1284
01:23:11.920 --> 01:23:15.000
get into the next zone, right, you know what I mean. Yeah,

1285
01:23:15.159 --> 01:23:17.720
it's a load box or whatever.
Yeah, it's like everybody get the

1286
01:23:17.760 --> 01:23:20.760
door and then fade to glowed scene
screen or whatever. Well I made it

1287
01:23:20.840 --> 01:23:27.039
to the door and through the door, and then I started falling into so

1288
01:23:27.479 --> 01:23:30.199
I'm like, oh, this is
I'm trying to tell like I've got Johnny

1289
01:23:30.199 --> 01:23:30.640
on my head, said, I'm
trying to try to tell im like,

1290
01:23:30.680 --> 01:23:33.800
oh this is I'm gone, this
is tea what and then he's and then

1291
01:23:33.960 --> 01:23:36.279
the next thing I hear is like, oh shit, I fell into this

1292
01:23:36.479 --> 01:23:39.720
void? What the fuck is gone? I'm like, all right, yeah,

1293
01:23:39.720 --> 01:23:42.680
we're both We're both here. This
is this is bad. And I'm

1294
01:23:42.680 --> 01:23:45.199
like, all right, I'm gonna
I'm gonna quit out of this. Let's

1295
01:23:45.359 --> 01:23:46.800
start this up again. You can
invite me again. And then I hear

1296
01:23:46.920 --> 01:23:50.399
him on his end say do I
want to save yes? Oh man,

1297
01:23:51.399 --> 01:23:55.840
oh man, And I said,
and I'm like, uh, all right,

1298
01:23:55.920 --> 01:23:59.680
let's try loading it back up.
Johnny like not not not kind of

1299
01:23:59.720 --> 01:24:02.800
reviewing my hand to him at this
point of what I think has just happened,

1300
01:24:02.840 --> 01:24:06.039
what horrible mistake he might have just
made. But sure enough, now

1301
01:24:06.720 --> 01:24:11.640
is he falling now? Every time
he loads up his game, which I

1302
01:24:11.680 --> 01:24:15.439
should also mention, he was in
the like king state, and he was

1303
01:24:15.800 --> 01:24:20.199
he was on track to have the
good ass ended he was. He was

1304
01:24:20.279 --> 01:24:23.640
like doing it. He was in
there, he was in his zone,

1305
01:24:23.640 --> 01:24:25.720
and he'd put a lot of time. He said that he had put like,

1306
01:24:25.840 --> 01:24:28.279
you know, thirty hours into his
game. And it's got to be

1307
01:24:28.399 --> 01:24:30.600
something can record. He's got to
be able to like load everything every time,

1308
01:24:31.520 --> 01:24:33.520
every time he loads it back up. When he hits pause, he

1309
01:24:33.560 --> 01:24:38.560
gets the abbreviated pause. Men,
you not the oh the like like the

1310
01:24:38.560 --> 01:24:41.479
little room he change your sound settings? Yeah, like the one where it's

1311
01:24:41.479 --> 01:24:45.920
just like three menu options, So
he can't so I can invite him into

1312
01:24:45.960 --> 01:24:48.640
my world still, Yeah, like
I can load up my game because since

1313
01:24:48.680 --> 01:24:50.720
I was in his world, every
time I load up my game, I'm

1314
01:24:50.720 --> 01:24:54.720
just hey, I'm fine, everything's
cool over here and in my albion.

1315
01:24:55.640 --> 01:24:59.159
But since he is constantly falling and
never on his solid surface, he can

1316
01:24:59.319 --> 01:25:02.720
never pull up that Men, you
should like invite anyone into his constantly tumbling

1317
01:25:02.800 --> 01:25:06.359
through a void? Can you kill
him? I feel Can you can get

1318
01:25:06.399 --> 01:25:09.880
to him? Can you jump in
there with him? No? I can't

1319
01:25:10.039 --> 01:25:13.680
get to his worlds Oh you can't
join it? No, because he's constantly

1320
01:25:13.760 --> 01:25:15.479
falling, he can't. Yeah,
why don't I feel like? This was

1321
01:25:15.520 --> 01:25:18.960
the part where Rod Sterling comes in
and deliver some kind of little monologue about

1322
01:25:19.000 --> 01:25:23.560
like maybe he'll reach a bo I
felt so bad because I was, like,

1323
01:25:23.760 --> 01:25:29.239
I just witnessed and was party to
the complete fucking ruination of something right.

1324
01:25:29.439 --> 01:25:32.560
John Vinyaki's Fable three game, which
he had clearly poured some serious time

1325
01:25:32.640 --> 01:25:38.359
into It's weird. It's weird.
You can't be some way to like fast

1326
01:25:38.399 --> 01:25:42.399
travel, right, If you can't
get that many do anything? Man?

1327
01:25:42.600 --> 01:25:45.800
Well, sometimes I don't know.
Sometimes it maps to the deepad right,

1328
01:25:45.880 --> 01:25:50.000
maybe if he waits long enough something, I'll map onto that deep I wont

1329
01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:55.039
if he'll still be like accruing money, yeah, just falling right, totally,

1330
01:25:57.840 --> 01:26:01.520
can never spend this lass, as
you say, there's that's your O

1331
01:26:01.680 --> 01:26:04.920
Henry story for sure. That's basically
what happened to me when I was reviewing

1332
01:26:04.960 --> 01:26:08.800
that game, when I got stuck
on that part where the enemy fell through

1333
01:26:08.840 --> 01:26:11.600
the world, and I quit out
to get back into it because that enemy

1334
01:26:11.640 --> 01:26:15.479
had to die for me to progress, And it saves everything, every single

1335
01:26:15.640 --> 01:26:18.000
variable about the state of your world. Like a game that prone to being

1336
01:26:18.119 --> 01:26:24.000
that flaky should not preserve itself exactly
that that. It's like, I feel

1337
01:26:24.079 --> 01:26:27.720
so bad, it's got to be
so terrible. No, he's fucked.

1338
01:26:29.800 --> 01:26:31.760
He could solve the problem by just
not playing the game anymore. What's a

1339
01:26:31.800 --> 01:26:34.760
real bumber, Because he was like
super close to the end and he was

1340
01:26:34.800 --> 01:26:41.399
going to close the deal he wanted. Yeah, he wants achieving points or

1341
01:26:41.479 --> 01:26:45.000
even just the game wrap up.
That's only an extra ten points to save

1342
01:26:45.079 --> 01:26:47.640
everybody. That's not a big deal, But like for me to get that

1343
01:26:47.800 --> 01:26:53.479
would be I wonder if I could
get that finishing the game alongside someone else.

1344
01:26:53.560 --> 01:26:55.479
Yeah, can he can he jump
into your game and just beat it

1345
01:26:55.520 --> 01:26:57.439
again or something? Well, and
then he can't jump into my world because

1346
01:26:57.520 --> 01:27:01.239
my rod already happened. I'd have
to join his albion or someone else's albion.

1347
01:27:01.479 --> 01:27:04.039
So the only way he can play
that game now is through somebody else

1348
01:27:05.640 --> 01:27:10.439
with that character. With that character, that character only exists as someone else's

1349
01:27:10.520 --> 01:27:14.880
co op companion. And so in
order for you to join his game,

1350
01:27:14.960 --> 01:27:16.680
he asked, I haven't checked in
with him. So this was last Wednesday,

1351
01:27:16.880 --> 01:27:21.239
and it was the last meaningful video
game experience I had conference him in

1352
01:27:23.640 --> 01:27:25.880
get some call him on the phone
and find out what's going on. Also,

1353
01:27:25.960 --> 01:27:29.640
let's talk to him about Tron.
Let's get this all out of the

1354
01:27:29.680 --> 01:27:32.279
way right now. Yeah, do
you play poker too? Right? Do

1355
01:27:32.319 --> 01:27:35.800
you play? My girlfriend played it? Oh? Scary him? Should played

1356
01:27:35.880 --> 01:27:41.960
like? According to steam stats,
almost ten hours of poker nuts while you

1357
01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:45.439
were playing? Uh, I was
playing Borderlands, Boring Lands. I was

1358
01:27:45.439 --> 01:27:47.199
playing Boring Lands. She was getting
me all the sea up, she got

1359
01:27:47.239 --> 01:27:50.199
me all the t F two items
and all the two of the achievements.

1360
01:27:50.680 --> 01:27:54.079
She's a good poker player. It's
a good poker player. You don't need

1361
01:27:54.119 --> 01:27:56.279
to be a good poker player to
play that game. Well, it's good

1362
01:27:56.359 --> 01:27:58.399
enough for that game. Yeah,
you can. You can kind of push

1363
01:27:58.399 --> 01:28:00.720
around that a yeah, probably,
Actually she was. Yeah, I was

1364
01:28:00.720 --> 01:28:03.239
actually so proud that she was figuring
out how to game achievements because god,

1365
01:28:03.359 --> 01:28:08.199
what was it others achievement for going
for winning after like going all in three

1366
01:28:08.239 --> 01:28:11.119
times in a row and winning all
three times, and she was like,

1367
01:28:11.399 --> 01:28:13.760
it doesn't matter what your hand is
is if you just go all in on

1368
01:28:13.840 --> 01:28:16.439
the first hand, then, like
like everybody, the rabbit will always like

1369
01:28:16.720 --> 01:28:18.920
to fold and ball, you know. She was like figuring out, like

1370
01:28:19.359 --> 01:28:23.600
trick it into make it like letting
her win this. Yeah. Yeah,

1371
01:28:23.680 --> 01:28:27.680
yeah, it's it's super simple behavior. If you re raise, they fold

1372
01:28:29.239 --> 01:28:32.840
like most of the time pretty much
pretty much. That's my experience was sometimes

1373
01:28:32.880 --> 01:28:36.920
they don't and then they go oh, but then it's like whatever, I

1374
01:28:38.039 --> 01:28:43.239
just lost another ten thousand. Yeah, So that's My only complaint about that

1375
01:28:43.319 --> 01:28:45.720
game was like, yah, I
got to a point with that game where

1376
01:28:45.039 --> 01:28:53.640
I was wishing that you could skip
the dialogue. It didn't seem like that

1377
01:28:53.880 --> 01:28:57.840
was uniform because I was kidding every
button I could when I was doing one

1378
01:28:57.880 --> 01:29:00.000
on one, Did you try the
right mouse button? You know? I

1379
01:29:00.119 --> 01:29:03.119
didn't. That's what they were saying. And they said when they said right

1380
01:29:03.159 --> 01:29:08.279
click, they meant like the you
didn't actually try every button. I don't

1381
01:29:08.279 --> 01:29:12.520
know. I were correctly. I
probably did try every button on the mouse,

1382
01:29:12.600 --> 01:29:17.760
though, So they do kind of
repeat themselves a little. And even

1383
01:29:17.760 --> 01:29:23.479
though I turned off the the bleeping, some dialogue is still I would get

1384
01:29:23.479 --> 01:29:27.840
that occasionally, like like randomly weird, like it wasn't I have an on

1385
01:29:27.920 --> 01:29:31.359
good authority that the patches fourth filming. I would imagine some issues and imagine

1386
01:29:31.399 --> 01:29:34.359
that that would benefit from a patch. I wish you could see your dude,

1387
01:29:34.439 --> 01:29:36.800
and I wish you won stuff that
like lute that you can play on

1388
01:29:38.199 --> 01:29:42.640
because your dude is garden free.
Yeah, totally, God, think about

1389
01:29:42.680 --> 01:29:48.239
it. Think about it. I
blew your mind. If they had just

1390
01:29:50.319 --> 01:29:59.920
leaving. I'm no, I'm in
here all by myself. Was the surpri

1391
01:30:00.319 --> 01:30:03.199
it's just been Brad doing all these
voices. He is the master. Wow,

1392
01:30:03.640 --> 01:30:09.159
Michael Winslow. If they had just
named your character Gordon in that game,

1393
01:30:09.239 --> 01:30:12.239
and I had all the characters just
address you as Gordon without ever saying

1394
01:30:12.319 --> 01:30:15.279
Freeman or anything, do you think
they could have gotten around paying the licensing?

1395
01:30:15.439 --> 01:30:19.680
You should just put a crowbar up
on me. I don't. I

1396
01:30:19.720 --> 01:30:26.039
don't think that that the Valve people
would have hit them use the heavy if

1397
01:30:26.079 --> 01:30:31.800
they had sneakily tried to get Gordon
Freeman into the game trademarks in first name.

1398
01:30:33.119 --> 01:30:39.920
You know who they're talking up.
No Freeman Saint's game. Ain't Freeman

1399
01:30:40.239 --> 01:30:45.039
there? You go done? Put
in there? It's better. I think

1400
01:30:45.079 --> 01:30:58.039
he's videos gonna go make his millions
writing dialogue for poker games. But then

1401
01:30:58.159 --> 01:31:06.439
Jonathan Freak says, that's why they
call me number one on the page.

1402
01:31:11.399 --> 01:31:13.680
Brad, do you have anything?
Oh, I'm good. I mean,

1403
01:31:13.720 --> 01:31:17.079
I played a lot of stuff.
I want to hear about epic Mickey Sols

1404
01:31:17.079 --> 01:31:21.000
moving. I was we did that
quick look, we did that quick look.

1405
01:31:21.119 --> 01:31:25.159
That was the last of the epic
Mickey that I played, watched the

1406
01:31:25.600 --> 01:31:30.920
epic intro. I was then in
Fresno. Oh, you were decidedly an

1407
01:31:30.960 --> 01:31:33.640
epic. I like the Hampton Inn
I was staying in. That was nice,

1408
01:31:33.760 --> 01:31:39.000
but bring a TV. No,
wait, do hotel TVs let you

1409
01:31:39.039 --> 01:31:44.680
hook up consoles now at the Hampton
Ends it does really Yeah, fucking HDMI

1410
01:31:44.840 --> 01:31:49.159
up in there full hook ups.
TV was a little dim which out full

1411
01:31:49.239 --> 01:31:55.079
internet too. Wow, welcome to
the future, Hampton Ends. I cannot

1412
01:31:55.119 --> 01:31:57.760
recommend them enough. The room was
huge. That a nice LCD that I

1413
01:31:57.800 --> 01:31:59.760
get hooked shit up to. Wait, don't you have a family you can

1414
01:31:59.760 --> 01:32:02.159
stay with? There was other family
that was staying with that family. There's

1415
01:32:02.159 --> 01:32:06.960
only there's only one bedroom at Grandma's
house other than Grandma's. I don't want

1416
01:32:08.000 --> 01:32:14.159
to sleep in either of those rooms, all right, So Hampton In that's

1417
01:32:14.199 --> 01:32:16.960
cool. Hotels sometimes fun. I
spent more it was. It was nice,

1418
01:32:17.279 --> 01:32:20.079
but I brought I brought a bunch
of game stuffing like, man,

1419
01:32:20.119 --> 01:32:24.000
I can get some some time in
here. But it didn't work out.

1420
01:32:24.039 --> 01:32:28.520
Although I did set up. I
did set something up, and so there's

1421
01:32:28.640 --> 01:32:30.880
wired internet in the in the room
as well as wireless, but it's like

1422
01:32:31.039 --> 01:32:34.000
fucking put pass codes in kind of
stuff. So consoles don't know how to

1423
01:32:34.039 --> 01:32:36.720
deal with the wireless and the wired
was just the one jacket was too far

1424
01:32:36.800 --> 01:32:41.640
from the TV I had my laptop
hook up to that anyways, So I

1425
01:32:42.000 --> 01:32:47.079
spent probably more time hooking up figuring
out how to share the connection from my

1426
01:32:47.159 --> 01:32:51.319
laptop to the wireless adapter on the
three sixty clone the Mac address. No,

1427
01:32:51.760 --> 01:32:56.600
No, I didn't have to do
anything that crazy. Last time I

1428
01:32:56.680 --> 01:32:59.239
was in a hotel room that had
an Xbox in it. Yeah, I

1429
01:32:59.680 --> 01:33:01.479
spent a good forty five minutes going, I'm gonna get this fucking thing online.

1430
01:33:02.079 --> 01:33:08.399
Fucking what you What you need to
do is you need to define certain

1431
01:33:09.399 --> 01:33:15.680
the router and DNS settings as being
the IP address on your laptop, as

1432
01:33:15.760 --> 01:33:17.520
well as what the actual router is
from the connection you're hooked up to.

1433
01:33:18.399 --> 01:33:23.039
You plug those into the right fields
and you can make some gold pretty easily.

1434
01:33:23.079 --> 01:33:26.159
So I was just cloning the Mac
address and then disconnecting the laptop from

1435
01:33:26.159 --> 01:33:30.399
the hotel wireless and connecting the Xbox. It was working, but not Yeah,

1436
01:33:30.600 --> 01:33:32.680
like they had a bunch of ports
blocked on their end that was not

1437
01:33:32.760 --> 01:33:35.399
gonna let So I got this working
and like it says like, yeah,

1438
01:33:35.439 --> 01:33:40.000
you're connected to Xbox Live. But
yeah, that's that's where I got to.

1439
01:33:40.279 --> 01:33:44.159
You don't want to use this as
a playing connection. And I mean

1440
01:33:44.560 --> 01:33:45.960
from the performance I was getting my
laptop, I'm like, okay, yeah,

1441
01:33:46.000 --> 01:33:49.199
this is this is high speed.
You know what I actually did?

1442
01:33:49.239 --> 01:33:54.079
I think I did pull it off, but the situation became they had parental

1443
01:33:54.159 --> 01:33:58.680
settings set on that Xbox, so
I could not recover my profile. I

1444
01:33:58.800 --> 01:34:01.640
wanted the achievements of the game bad
through all that ship. I like,

1445
01:34:01.680 --> 01:34:04.640
I'm to cover my profile on this
machine and then I'll usb it out of

1446
01:34:04.720 --> 01:34:10.880
here. Key stir it. No
one will ever know. But it was

1447
01:34:10.920 --> 01:34:13.720
not meant to be. You can
put it in your butt. That's what

1448
01:34:13.800 --> 01:34:16.199
I said. It's keys. I
just want to make sure the function at

1449
01:34:16.199 --> 01:34:23.520
home't understand what keyster means. All
right, that's a that's yeah, that's

1450
01:34:23.560 --> 01:34:30.319
it. That's it. That's all. That's a podcast that was and that

1451
01:34:30.640 --> 01:34:36.399
was thanksgiving that that I finished that
fable book. Another whistle, bad whistle

1452
01:34:36.439 --> 01:34:44.399
though, call yeah, I'll try. I think, what's what's what's the

1453
01:34:44.520 --> 01:34:48.680
what's the bad whistle? Is it? Is it? Yeah? Like stars

1454
01:34:48.840 --> 01:34:57.560
lower than that those? Yeah,
that's your just it's a whistle. Sigh.

1455
01:34:59.359 --> 01:35:00.920
Okay, yeah, there it is, got it. Uh it's a

1456
01:35:01.000 --> 01:35:05.119
bad whistle. Yeah, Now,
I was trying to stick the assassins on

1457
01:35:05.239 --> 01:35:12.560
that, uh that book. You
know. Would you read some Assassin's Creed

1458
01:35:12.640 --> 01:35:15.000
fiction, Yes, I bet there
is no hesitation. Would you buy the

1459
01:35:15.119 --> 01:35:20.560
limited edition of Sturgo Hoodie? No, an, there's a bunch of there's

1460
01:35:20.600 --> 01:35:25.079
a bunch of comic books. It
was there a limited edition Assassin's Creed Brotherhood

1461
01:35:25.359 --> 01:35:28.239
in the States, Yes, okay, with a jack in the box like

1462
01:35:28.319 --> 01:35:30.000
a doctor head in a jack in
the boy, come with like a map

1463
01:35:30.079 --> 01:35:34.279
and all that nonsense. I don't
know. I didn't it. I saw

1464
01:35:34.319 --> 01:35:38.279
I was looking up some stuff and
it might be just in Europe. There

1465
01:35:38.359 --> 01:35:41.159
was one with like cards of all
the dudes like you know, in the

1466
01:35:41.560 --> 01:35:44.439
database and stuff. They came with
all that stuff. Anyway. Yeah,

1467
01:35:44.479 --> 01:35:48.680
what but that fable book? Uh? Oh man, that's I've read some

1468
01:35:49.319 --> 01:35:55.720
video game based books fiction that one. I can't really recommend that. No

1469
01:35:55.800 --> 01:35:59.600
offense to the author, you know, but the material does not lend itself,

1470
01:35:59.680 --> 01:36:02.960
you know, she may still take
offense. I don't know. I

1471
01:36:03.039 --> 01:36:09.880
mean Peter MULLINEU No, that's under
his pen name I do not mean under

1472
01:36:09.920 --> 01:36:13.479
his pen name Milo, do not
mean no offense to Peter Monon. You

1473
01:36:13.520 --> 01:36:18.000
mean much saying to the author,
uh that that that fiction just is not

1474
01:36:18.119 --> 01:36:20.720
what you want to write, like
a serious book about there. I don't

1475
01:36:20.720 --> 01:36:26.000
know. It's weird if Peter Mulneu
hasn't taken maximum of Fence from this podcast

1476
01:36:26.079 --> 01:36:28.560
by now. Oh, I love
Peter munt Think there's anything else? No,

1477
01:36:29.039 --> 01:36:30.920
I hope not, because I think
I love Fable two and I think

1478
01:36:30.960 --> 01:36:34.239
Fable three is the sequel or the
next game. You guys are the guys

1479
01:36:34.319 --> 01:36:40.399
that spend all this time talking about
liver spotted balls. That's how how many

1480
01:36:40.520 --> 01:36:44.680
times do people talk about farts in
the Fable book? Yeah? How many

1481
01:36:44.800 --> 01:36:46.439
heads are? How much? You're
asking? How much? How much farting

1482
01:36:46.560 --> 01:36:49.520
gets done in the Fable book?
You know, I don't think there's that

1483
01:36:49.680 --> 01:36:54.960
much. That book is bullshit.
It does not stay true to the Fable

1484
01:36:55.039 --> 01:36:59.880
fiction ads. I understand it.
It's not cannon open with a wacky mishap

1485
01:37:00.079 --> 01:37:05.319
involving a bird. Yeah, is
there any shit? I Fable three there

1486
01:37:05.359 --> 01:37:09.960
was no ship. There was there
was still a bird. I can't remember

1487
01:37:10.079 --> 01:37:13.760
now that's true. But Fable two, there was oh yeah, Fable two,

1488
01:37:13.760 --> 01:37:16.880
there was shit I can't remember.
I forgot about the open table three,

1489
01:37:17.119 --> 01:37:20.920
totally forgot about the whole crazy Chicken
opening. I'm a crazy chicken.

1490
01:37:21.199 --> 01:37:26.640
Yeah, I got a shit all
something that's opening. I remember that intro

1491
01:37:26.760 --> 01:37:30.920
when you're pretty excited and you're like
about all the adventures to code. I

1492
01:37:30.960 --> 01:37:34.079
wouldn't be offensive. Somebody talked about
liver spotted balls. That's not offensive.

1493
01:37:34.479 --> 01:37:38.640
For a man who will put farting
on somebody's head in a game, it

1494
01:37:38.720 --> 01:37:44.600
sounds like party, and I think
I would not be surprised either way.

1495
01:37:45.640 --> 01:37:49.239
But I enjoy his work, so
I would. I would be entirely understanding

1496
01:37:49.279 --> 01:37:54.399
if Peter Mullien chose to take offense
at the things that we have said about

1497
01:37:54.479 --> 01:37:57.520
him and his games. I hope
he doesn't take it personally, and I

1498
01:37:57.640 --> 01:38:00.680
did hope. I hope that.
I also hope his balls do not take

1499
01:38:00.720 --> 01:38:05.239
it personally. It's as balls.
I gotta watch out. Yeah, they're

1500
01:38:05.279 --> 01:38:11.239
they're the vindictive one. I think
they'll fall in one. You don't want

1501
01:38:11.239 --> 01:38:17.800
to hit your wagon this death training, don't. Yeah, don't get affiliated

1502
01:38:17.840 --> 01:38:23.560
with this. There really isn't.
There's not an old sun of news.

1503
01:38:24.199 --> 01:38:29.199
They're gonna take Halo stat tracking and
stuff off for for Halo Wars stat tracking,

1504
01:38:29.560 --> 01:38:32.319
uh, December fifteenth, so it
seems kind of soon squeeze in the

1505
01:38:32.399 --> 01:38:35.399
last of your twelve. The studio
that made it has been dust for a

1506
01:38:35.520 --> 01:38:40.319
year. But man, games,
like what the lesson two years old?

1507
01:38:40.479 --> 01:38:45.159
I wonder what the CNC four state
of things is like right now? Then

1508
01:38:45.479 --> 01:38:49.479
Music Factory State of Things is one
of the seasons Freedom Williams and Freedom Williams

1509
01:38:49.520 --> 01:38:54.880
wasn't even in the it was never
really in the group, like the second

1510
01:38:55.079 --> 01:38:57.840
Wilson Cole like Freedom Mums is just
there on a couple of songs. Yeah

1511
01:38:58.239 --> 01:39:01.560
really Yeah, I was his associated
Freedom Movements with Museum. Well the second

1512
01:39:01.600 --> 01:39:08.520
album for scenc Factory, he's not
He's not there. It's a dust pretty

1513
01:39:08.680 --> 01:39:15.000
years. Yeah, they're transitioning the
forums over to Halo way point. So

1514
01:39:15.960 --> 01:39:19.279
yeah, there was some outrage from
people that still was were forming a community

1515
01:39:19.359 --> 01:39:24.399
around Halo Wars, which I say, again, don't hit your wagon to

1516
01:39:24.520 --> 01:39:31.079
this death train. But yeah,
I don't know, like almost like a

1517
01:39:31.199 --> 01:39:36.600
multiplayer contin like people are just play
a multiplayer people. Yeah, they're still

1518
01:39:36.680 --> 01:39:46.359
like yeah, Halo Wars all you
and it's motherfucker that I die weird.

1519
01:39:46.520 --> 01:39:53.720
I refused to believe that there is
a significant number of people that are left

1520
01:39:53.880 --> 01:39:57.840
to be outraged at the idea of
of that being shut down. But sure

1521
01:39:57.920 --> 01:40:00.680
enough there are some people that are, but enough are pretty unhappy about it,

1522
01:40:00.840 --> 01:40:06.319
enough to start a petition that's it. Doesn't take that, man,

1523
01:40:06.359 --> 01:40:10.479
I think I think people have started
plenty petitions about me about it now.

1524
01:40:11.199 --> 01:40:14.359
Yeah, yeah, you you're a
jerk. Yeah, it's not making all

1525
01:40:14.399 --> 01:40:21.479
those petitions. I signed both of
them, signed like seventeen accounts. Double

1526
01:40:21.560 --> 01:40:26.880
Finn has announced their next downloadable game. It will be called Stacking, and

1527
01:40:27.000 --> 01:40:33.600
it involves Russian bricking BMX bikes.
It involves stacking a grip. You totally

1528
01:40:33.840 --> 01:40:39.560
stacked your huffey into that dirt mound. Yeah, hell is stacked. I'm

1529
01:40:39.600 --> 01:40:45.039
not familiar with this colloquialism. Don't
lie to me. I'm not familiar with

1530
01:40:45.279 --> 01:40:49.600
this coloquialism outside of you saying the
words stacked that way, fucking stacked.

1531
01:40:51.399 --> 01:40:56.960
I enjoy started my own petition to
have more of that in there. More

1532
01:40:57.000 --> 01:41:00.560
stacking. Oh yeah, Russian nising
tells. The trailer for it it's got

1533
01:41:00.680 --> 01:41:02.439
a crate, you know, double
fine. It's got a crazy art style.

1534
01:41:02.560 --> 01:41:05.079
I'm not sure what the game is
about, but it's got a crazy

1535
01:41:05.239 --> 01:41:10.920
art style. It's all You're trying
to do a fat and table top over

1536
01:41:11.000 --> 01:41:14.479
the sawhorse that you stole from the
construction site. You you can't get it

1537
01:41:14.560 --> 01:41:18.000
up, and your pedal fucking hooks
the fucking sawhorse. Actual thoughts relevant one

1538
01:41:19.119 --> 01:41:21.720
conversation. It's got like a vintage
look to it. I like it very

1539
01:41:21.800 --> 01:41:27.560
much. Did this sound little warm
colors Assassin's creedy? Like? Didn't?

1540
01:41:27.600 --> 01:41:30.279
I read that you can only interact, well, so you can like you

1541
01:41:30.359 --> 01:41:33.319
can either. I thought it was
more you can either stack inside other characters

1542
01:41:33.359 --> 01:41:35.760
are over them. I forget if
you absorb them or they absorb you.

1543
01:41:35.960 --> 01:41:40.479
But you can only do it if
they're facing the other way yet, so

1544
01:41:40.520 --> 01:41:44.199
it's almost like a backstab. Oh
okay, So then I'm also hoping that

1545
01:41:44.239 --> 01:41:47.640
this was gonna be a cup stacking
like a speed stacking simulator. No speed

1546
01:41:47.720 --> 01:41:50.479
stackers are contense, dude. This
is gonna be the year that I buy

1547
01:41:50.640 --> 01:41:55.960
cups from the toys r us go
go on YouTube speed stacking, go into

1548
01:41:55.960 --> 01:42:00.560
official speed stacker set go on YouTube
and google yourself some some speed stacking videos.

1549
01:42:00.560 --> 01:42:09.159
Stacking nuts. Oh my god,
it's the craziest speed stacking. It's

1550
01:42:09.199 --> 01:42:13.079
like they're taking like red fucking solo
cups, but they're especially designed for this

1551
01:42:13.239 --> 01:42:15.520
act, and it's it's them taking
them from a single stap and then making

1552
01:42:15.560 --> 01:42:19.920
a pyramid out of them stuck quickly
in less like second, like like literally

1553
01:42:19.960 --> 01:42:23.800
the hands just blur and then there's
like this this pyramid and they bring it

1554
01:42:23.880 --> 01:42:25.359
all down and they put it all
back up, and it's like they have

1555
01:42:25.399 --> 01:42:29.119
these whole routines where they're moving the
cups around really fucking fast, literally that

1556
01:42:29.319 --> 01:42:31.199
fast, and no, no,
go watch it, go watch it is.

1557
01:42:31.439 --> 01:42:38.560
It is fucking out of cut.
Their full competition New Years probably for

1558
01:42:38.600 --> 01:42:41.439
a while. Yeah, they're like
national championships. How do you beat?

1559
01:42:42.119 --> 01:42:47.039
You go faster? How you fucking
faster? Speed stack? Do you think

1560
01:42:47.079 --> 01:42:49.960
they like high speed film judge these
things, like well, it's like down

1561
01:42:50.000 --> 01:42:54.000
to middle seconds. That's the only
way you could beat somebody's time. Like

1562
01:42:54.399 --> 01:42:58.319
there's no way that they every finishes
a photo finish speed stacking. How many

1563
01:42:58.359 --> 01:43:00.880
cups are an official speed stacking set? It depends on I think it depends

1564
01:43:00.880 --> 01:43:03.479
on the competitions, on your weight
class. This is true. I thought

1565
01:43:03.520 --> 01:43:06.760
it was traditionally a three two one
pyramid. I could could be a four

1566
01:43:06.840 --> 01:43:10.439
three two one. Imagine they are
multiple Okay, yeah, all right,

1567
01:43:10.479 --> 01:43:12.479
I'll give you that. All right, So you want to open with a

1568
01:43:12.560 --> 01:43:15.199
nine stacks, well, yeah,
pyramid exactly. So I was kind of

1569
01:43:15.239 --> 01:43:18.840
hoping when they said our game is
called stacking that it was it was gonna

1570
01:43:18.840 --> 01:43:24.800
be a RPG about speed stacks dot
com. Oh boy, I love how

1571
01:43:24.840 --> 01:43:29.000
they're just throwing caution into the wind
over double fun. No that I don't

1572
01:43:29.000 --> 01:43:30.840
think they've taken all the limitters off
of their madness. Oh, I don't

1573
01:43:30.840 --> 01:43:33.520
know. I feel like they're the
game stacking. I love it. I

1574
01:43:33.560 --> 01:43:39.119
think this sounds amazing, But like, who who with like any kind of

1575
01:43:39.159 --> 01:43:43.760
marketing influence on them? When the
name of games stacking like what sounds think

1576
01:43:43.760 --> 01:43:45.000
it should be some kind of puzzle
game. Yeah, but I think it's

1577
01:43:45.039 --> 01:43:47.920
the best sounds like some Yeah,
exactly, it should be called like cup

1578
01:43:48.000 --> 01:43:50.520
trists. Yeah, I think I
think the cups. I think they need

1579
01:43:50.600 --> 01:43:54.760
a better name. I think they
need someone. I think their ideas are

1580
01:43:54.800 --> 01:43:58.079
genius. I think Causal Quest was
a delightful game, great art style,

1581
01:43:58.159 --> 01:44:00.399
good sense of humor, and I
and I'm loving what I'm seeing of this.

1582
01:44:00.520 --> 01:44:03.800
But Costume Quest was a terrible name
for that game. I think Stacking

1583
01:44:03.920 --> 01:44:08.640
isn't equally probably did okay, though, you know, it's like downloadable games.

1584
01:44:08.680 --> 01:44:11.359
The people that are typically buying downloadable
games are a little more wired in

1585
01:44:11.399 --> 01:44:14.239
than the average consumer, so they're
a little more likely to know that Double

1586
01:44:14.279 --> 01:44:16.159
Fine made it and care about that
fact. Sure, sure, so I

1587
01:44:16.279 --> 01:44:18.920
think that that's that's I mean,
the Double Fine name is is the thing

1588
01:44:18.960 --> 01:44:23.439
that's selling there for sure? Yeah? They you can still have better names.

1589
01:44:24.279 --> 01:44:28.000
Stacking is a great better names.
I think it's ballsy. I think

1590
01:44:28.039 --> 01:44:31.039
it's risky. Yeah, it's a
ridiculous name. Three six or ten cups?

1591
01:44:31.800 --> 01:44:35.039
Okay, ten cups? Ten cup, I'm looking at a ten cup

1592
01:44:35.159 --> 01:44:39.560
right here. Nineteen eighty five?
Is he is official date? It's it's

1593
01:44:40.720 --> 01:44:44.840
is that when it started? Or
was that like the Standing Day nineteen eighty

1594
01:44:44.880 --> 01:44:47.039
five? I was hoping there was
like something appeared on the Tonight Show with

1595
01:44:47.159 --> 01:44:50.560
Johnny Carson. Wow. Wow,
So I was hoping there was some kind

1596
01:44:50.600 --> 01:44:57.800
of like like like standing record from
the eighties or something. These were weird.

1597
01:44:57.880 --> 01:45:00.000
Nobody has ever beaten the that's before
where they were doing drug testing.

1598
01:45:00.079 --> 01:45:03.239
So Stephen Puragana is the two thousand
and eight, two thousand and two thousand

1599
01:45:03.239 --> 01:45:06.800
and ten world champion. See,
you can't beat that overall champion. You

1600
01:45:06.840 --> 01:45:11.239
don't beat last three years. Last
three years, he's been holding it the

1601
01:45:11.319 --> 01:45:15.560
fuck down. I need to watch
the videos of this. He's gonna win

1602
01:45:15.560 --> 01:45:17.760
forever because no one cares about speed
stacking anymore. Three three three three six

1603
01:45:17.880 --> 01:45:23.319
three cycle? What's the cycle?
Take it up? Taking individual doubles,

1604
01:45:23.760 --> 01:45:30.000
team relay? Oh my god,
stacking mats. But yeah, I was

1605
01:45:30.079 --> 01:45:32.880
doing Christmas shopping last Christmas at the
Toys r US and they were selling official

1606
01:45:33.039 --> 01:45:38.880
speed stacking kits. Really, there's
fucking cups. Wow. New rules as

1607
01:45:38.960 --> 01:45:43.119
of April twenty ten, oh patch
came out. You are no, I'm

1608
01:45:43.119 --> 01:45:46.800
sure you are now allowed to double
down stack for any stack. However,

1609
01:45:47.279 --> 01:45:50.600
the first two stacks must be down
stacked with two hands. Do you know

1610
01:45:50.680 --> 01:45:56.119
what that means? No one handed
down stacking. Obviously, I'm going to

1611
01:45:56.319 --> 01:46:00.680
use my mind and assume that means
when you go down with the stack,

1612
01:46:00.640 --> 01:46:05.720
building up sacks collapse. It's clear
collapsing your stack. Yeah, because that's

1613
01:46:05.720 --> 01:46:15.479
part of its building up. That's
the impressed with Wow like that, that's

1614
01:46:15.520 --> 01:46:19.119
a bad one. That stacking trailer
remind me of Peb winter Bottom. Sure

1615
01:46:20.079 --> 01:46:27.000
you see what you mean with that
vintage. I'm gonna make my speed stacking

1616
01:46:27.039 --> 01:46:31.520
game a reality and call it Stacking
two. I think there's already. I

1617
01:46:31.600 --> 01:46:35.199
feel like I feel like there's been
a wee wear speed stacking game, something

1618
01:46:35.319 --> 01:46:39.600
with speed stacking in it. Really, Yeah, I feel like this has

1619
01:46:39.640 --> 01:46:41.920
been covered in video games. I'm
not necessarily you know, I'm not saying

1620
01:46:41.960 --> 01:46:46.880
there isn't room, Jeff for your
your bold new Facebook based speed stacking game.

1621
01:46:48.039 --> 01:46:55.680
I'm called Stacker two, but it's
gonna burn off fat well. I

1622
01:46:55.760 --> 01:47:00.640
love the first Stacker stack or two. It is gonna be even better.

1623
01:47:01.640 --> 01:47:05.399
Uh, Spiner Cell six, they're
gonna make another Spoker cell and there's gonna

1624
01:47:05.399 --> 01:47:10.159
be some free it was flash yeah, and there's gonna be some assassins.

1625
01:47:10.199 --> 01:47:13.000
It's gonna be DEALC for games.
Games that you like, there's gonna have

1626
01:47:13.119 --> 01:47:15.399
some deal See games you probably don't
like, they're gonna have delC two.

1627
01:47:15.479 --> 01:47:17.800
Can I pay for them with my
sometimes you'll pay for sometimes will deal say

1628
01:47:17.800 --> 01:47:20.960
they're doing for Yeah, first aass
crazy free. First it's free. It's

1629
01:47:20.960 --> 01:47:24.800
a new mode and I think a
map or two y a map new mode

1630
01:47:25.119 --> 01:47:28.800
stab. Some dudes, guess what
there's gonna be future DEALC you're gonna have

1631
01:47:28.840 --> 01:47:33.199
to pay for what? Just letting
you know. I know a guy inside

1632
01:47:33.239 --> 01:47:39.039
the organization, and he told me
that some of the deals, yes,

1633
01:47:40.039 --> 01:47:43.359
some of that downloadable content or DEALC
as we like to call it, will

1634
01:47:43.479 --> 01:47:46.239
be for free. Some of it
you'll have to pay an additional charge for.

1635
01:47:46.359 --> 01:47:53.319
You can't have it both ways.
There there's I heard spinter Cell Sex

1636
01:47:53.439 --> 01:47:57.560
was gonna have you play support,
and here we have Assassin's Creed with DEALC.

1637
01:47:57.720 --> 01:48:04.760
Two ways, two ways took me
just enough enough time. Yeah,

1638
01:48:05.319 --> 01:48:09.279
I bought my I wanted to play
a game with my brother, my my

1639
01:48:09.439 --> 01:48:12.840
dad, uh for Thanksgiving from here
and there in New York obviously, then

1640
01:48:12.960 --> 01:48:15.439
Monday night come I was a game. I chose. Its probably a pretty

1641
01:48:15.439 --> 01:48:17.600
good game, right. You have
to have two brothers with one father and

1642
01:48:17.920 --> 01:48:23.159
uh yeah, sometimes weird stuff works, that weird family stuff. Yeah,

1643
01:48:24.520 --> 01:48:28.039
I had to uh my dad when
he I had given him a gold card

1644
01:48:28.119 --> 01:48:30.239
count, you know, like a
thing for you know, it's like the

1645
01:48:30.279 --> 01:48:34.439
holiday gift. No, no,
like, So when I came to to

1646
01:48:34.520 --> 01:48:38.039
buy of the game, so I
was like, oh, she had some

1647
01:48:38.119 --> 01:48:42.680
points? What you had to buy
this? What? I'll just come on,

1648
01:48:43.199 --> 01:48:46.479
I gotta put my credit card in
on this thing. It's already got

1649
01:48:46.600 --> 01:48:50.159
something on that I don't know.
And at the time he was huffing and

1650
01:48:50.239 --> 01:48:55.000
puffing himing, and I bought a
card on Amazon was reading him off the

1651
01:48:55.119 --> 01:48:59.680
number by the thing, and it
worked out perfect. It could not have

1652
01:48:59.760 --> 01:49:03.640
been easier unless he had just bought
points. Uh, you mean at my

1653
01:49:03.720 --> 01:49:06.720
other brothers. It's all in that
group chat. Other brothers are big,

1654
01:49:08.119 --> 01:49:11.439
just fucking fucking it all out.
Basically, as I'm trying to read him

1655
01:49:11.479 --> 01:49:15.279
off the letters on this SEW three, We're just like, do you have

1656
01:49:15.359 --> 01:49:21.399
to add points to get that next
ladder? What are you doing? Anyway?

1657
01:49:21.760 --> 01:49:27.039
That's that's my downloadable DLC story.
That was the game. I comment.

1658
01:49:27.079 --> 01:49:29.680
I think they got bored after a
long Well, yeah, I don't

1659
01:49:29.680 --> 01:49:31.000
know. If you guys playing an
online against teams, are you just doing

1660
01:49:31.079 --> 01:49:35.560
like the blitz mode kind of stuff. Yeah, they don't do a great

1661
01:49:35.600 --> 01:49:39.920
job. I guess if you just
kind of jump in there explaining exactly what

1662
01:49:40.039 --> 01:49:43.319
you have to do. Uh.
And for people who aren't very familiar with

1663
01:49:43.479 --> 01:49:45.920
that style of play, they're all, you gotta build turrets and you save

1664
01:49:45.920 --> 01:49:50.960
your money and upgrade. Complicated anyway, all right, guys, let's talk

1665
01:49:50.960 --> 01:49:58.239
about some new releases out this week. Epic Mickey Disney Epic Mickey for the

1666
01:49:58.319 --> 01:50:00.079
Nintendo Week. Yes, quick,
look of that, available on the same

1667
01:50:00.279 --> 01:50:05.920
holiday your loved ones. The Epic
Mickey again, going back to terrible names

1668
01:50:06.000 --> 01:50:12.119
for things Epic Mickey Disney, Disney
Epic Mickey Disneypic Disney's Epic Mickey Disney.

1669
01:50:14.199 --> 01:50:15.960
Yeah, I don't. I don't. I especially don't want Walt Disney's Epic

1670
01:50:16.039 --> 01:50:20.600
Mickey. Oh yeah, it's it's
anti semitic, so you definitely all want

1671
01:50:20.640 --> 01:50:26.399
that one. It's horrible, It's
horrible and nailed, nailed, which is

1672
01:50:26.520 --> 01:50:31.800
which is what I know. There's
a TV bananas and a TV and bananas

1673
01:50:33.000 --> 01:50:38.159
and a weird FOV. It's super
fastn't. I didn't feel the FOV as

1674
01:50:38.199 --> 01:50:41.039
hard as you did, but I
kind of see what you mean. What's

1675
01:50:41.119 --> 01:50:44.159
yea? As they pull it out
and the game of the game of Facelift.

1676
01:50:44.199 --> 01:50:47.399
They pulled it all top. Yeah. It kind of feels like how

1677
01:50:47.479 --> 01:50:50.560
it should feel. It like you
know when burnout, when you turn the

1678
01:50:50.760 --> 01:50:53.960
fov, when you hit boost.
Yeah, but instead it has it all

1679
01:50:53.960 --> 01:50:57.960
the time. It's just like,
what why I would I'm a bug.

1680
01:51:00.159 --> 01:51:08.199
Eleen nailed nailed an ai l apostrophe. Quick, look up on the side

1681
01:51:08.199 --> 01:51:15.039
of that. Nailed d by the
time you're this Xbox labricade this week Unbound

1682
01:51:15.279 --> 01:51:24.720
Saga man, Yeah, it was
a game Voster Foster still exists. Foster.

1683
01:51:24.880 --> 01:51:27.880
Sorry, Folkster, you're right,
you're right not to be confused with

1684
01:51:28.000 --> 01:51:32.560
Frogster. Yeah, or Frogster will
to be confused with frogs. Those guys

1685
01:51:32.600 --> 01:51:36.920
are just bootleg. There's a new
speaking of which one Foster like they're they're

1686
01:51:36.960 --> 01:51:41.239
doing a whole of things. They're
doing like a crime Craft expansion. Yeah,

1687
01:51:41.239 --> 01:51:44.960
there's the working Craft. We got
an email from a guy at at

1688
01:51:45.079 --> 01:51:47.520
Voguster. Yeah. Yeah, it's
like, hey, I know you guys

1689
01:51:47.640 --> 01:51:53.319
still working on have said things about
our games in the past, Yes,

1690
01:51:53.560 --> 01:51:57.680
we have. It was actually it
was kind of a plea for some coverage.

1691
01:51:58.119 --> 01:52:00.079
There you go, there's there's a
new crime Craft AFT thing. Available.

1692
01:52:00.159 --> 01:52:05.119
I felt a little bad are happening
soon. So if it's similar to

1693
01:52:05.199 --> 01:52:10.000
original Crimecraft, I have to say. Legally, I'm obligated to say,

1694
01:52:10.319 --> 01:52:15.319
I do not recommend that you get
involved with They have since then, they've

1695
01:52:15.359 --> 01:52:18.479
made Crimecraft free to play and all
this other stuff. Was the last time

1696
01:52:18.479 --> 01:52:23.319
you logged into crime when we did
that quick look probably that's uh yeah,

1697
01:52:25.199 --> 01:52:29.720
well then I logged in again when
they call it dapb pow boom. If

1698
01:52:29.720 --> 01:52:33.920
you want to start a petition,
here's the address. There's a global agenda

1699
01:52:34.000 --> 01:52:38.119
that were the dick suckers right they
were? Yeah, yeah, there's the

1700
01:52:38.119 --> 01:52:44.640
ones. There's the bad people PlayStation
Network did right? Or yes, Dead

1701
01:52:44.720 --> 01:52:47.399
Nation get rising with a different game, Dead Nation game that Brad was talking

1702
01:52:47.399 --> 01:52:53.760
about earlier. We got a quick
look probably from last week. Right,

1703
01:52:55.479 --> 01:53:00.000
Mmm, I'm not in jury duty. I will review that game tomorrow.

1704
01:53:00.359 --> 01:53:06.319
A couple of crazy ps one Japanese
imports on the PlayStation network Block Kids and

1705
01:53:08.439 --> 01:53:15.399
days Amon plus those both sound great. Choose one of eight cartoon characters and

1706
01:53:15.479 --> 01:53:19.359
bounce blasting Batterer way past an array
of formidable fortress like block barriers in not

1707
01:53:19.520 --> 01:53:25.279
to his revolutionary three D twist on
an arcade classic that's block kids block,

1708
01:53:25.399 --> 01:53:29.880
kids block, hids block hids,
b l O c k I d S

1709
01:53:30.399 --> 01:53:41.960
block kids block, kids blow,
kids blow kids got it? And days

1710
01:53:42.279 --> 01:53:47.880
da z A E m O N
days Amonmon. I feel like I need

1711
01:53:47.960 --> 01:53:53.960
to get smart da z a E
m O N. I get some more

1712
01:53:54.000 --> 01:53:58.319
of that to finish a shop quest
and assessments. Creed Brother like one more

1713
01:53:58.680 --> 01:54:00.920
crazy Japanies games. I don't know, Hey, I don't know, man

1714
01:54:02.039 --> 01:54:04.239
Uh. We don't know what's coming
out on Game Room this week, but

1715
01:54:04.960 --> 01:54:09.279
we know it could be. It
could be Amadar, could be Twin B.

1716
01:54:09.800 --> 01:54:14.560
Fucking poo Yan peak is in there. People are actually fucking super goddamn

1717
01:54:14.600 --> 01:54:17.439
pumped up about poo Yan. I've
heard a lot of people getting rowdy about

1718
01:54:17.479 --> 01:54:20.840
you know, what's fucking sick fucking
game, Fucking poo Yan. Motherfucker.

1719
01:54:21.000 --> 01:54:24.720
It's not bad, you know,
it's also a sick fucking game, Fucking

1720
01:54:24.840 --> 01:54:28.840
Amadar. What about food fight?
What about fucking food fight? It's a

1721
01:54:28.920 --> 01:54:32.520
fight, is gangsters? Fuck?
It's in there. Fucking chefs are falling

1722
01:54:32.560 --> 01:54:39.039
in holes, watermelons are fucking infinite
fucking food fight unless they hate their chefs.

1723
01:54:39.119 --> 01:54:43.159
I hate those chefs. Those chefs
are fucking cocksuckers. Unless they fuck

1724
01:54:43.199 --> 01:54:46.279
it up and have eight way control
the arcade game, whether I believe it

1725
01:54:46.399 --> 01:54:50.279
was a forty nine ways. Oh
okay, so it has is more than

1726
01:54:50.359 --> 01:54:55.840
just the eight way movement expect to
expect from games. So you will need

1727
01:54:55.880 --> 01:54:58.520
to use the analog stick to do
that. And if they fuck that up,

1728
01:54:58.600 --> 01:55:00.840
they're gonna suck that If they fucked
out up, I'm gonna suck that

1729
01:55:00.960 --> 01:55:03.159
up. If they fucked that up, they've already fucked that up. The

1730
01:55:03.399 --> 01:55:08.239
worst done like a month ago.
Hopefully that was the lastly they didn't suck

1731
01:55:08.279 --> 01:55:11.279
that up. Was the latest time
they could have fucked that up, and

1732
01:55:11.359 --> 01:55:14.399
they have most assuredly already Hopefully they
did not suck that up. Also,

1733
01:55:14.479 --> 01:55:17.560
am I missing an Action aka Russian
Attack two? Yeah, I'm not really

1734
01:55:17.640 --> 01:55:20.680
familiar with with that game at all. I don't know. They just might

1735
01:55:20.760 --> 01:55:24.239
not have come out of here.
TWINB is good. Just take two TWINB

1736
01:55:24.359 --> 01:55:27.760
games in there, right, and
it's also off the wall, Walker and

1737
01:55:28.039 --> 01:55:30.720
Warlords. Yeah, I think I
think Walker is another one of those games

1738
01:55:30.760 --> 01:55:34.079
that didn't actually come out. Yeah, yeah, Datana twin be. Yeah.

1739
01:55:36.319 --> 01:55:42.039
Yeah, food Fight, man.
A lot of people are talking a

1740
01:55:42.079 --> 01:55:45.119
lot of like like positive things about
Sunset Riders, don't. I don't have

1741
01:55:45.319 --> 01:55:49.159
like the nostalgic thing for Sunset Riders. I didn't encounter it until none of

1742
01:55:49.159 --> 01:55:51.439
their kids that hung out. I've
ever had a Sunset Riders machine. So

1743
01:55:51.560 --> 01:55:54.880
it's good. It's good. I
mean, I played it, and I

1744
01:55:54.920 --> 01:55:58.960
think it's cool. But it's But
you want to talk about fucking food Fight.

1745
01:56:00.239 --> 01:56:04.439
The peas fucking suck food Fight.
Like the shotgun of that thing.

1746
01:56:04.479 --> 01:56:08.560
They don't go anywhere. There's no
distance on them. Food Fight came out

1747
01:56:09.479 --> 01:56:15.239
well before any of the people listening
to this podcast came out Food Fight.

1748
01:56:15.399 --> 01:56:17.159
I know I have a food Fight
T shirt. I saw you buy it

1749
01:56:17.479 --> 01:56:19.520
out. You were there when I
bought it. Boy, that food Fight

1750
01:56:19.560 --> 01:56:23.119
t shirt. We played food Fight
and then you went and bought a food

1751
01:56:23.159 --> 01:56:27.159
Fight shirt. And also I bought
a Warlord's shirt. It's our twenties ex

1752
01:56:27.239 --> 01:56:30.880
hundred version of Warlords. Pretty good
it is. It is not paddles.

1753
01:56:31.640 --> 01:56:34.479
Yeah, it's a paddle game.
That's where it's all going to fall apart

1754
01:56:34.520 --> 01:56:39.520
though in this translation exactly, So
yeah, we don't have paddles, so

1755
01:56:40.720 --> 01:56:44.039
that'll be funky. Did you make
a thing? Could you make a USB

1756
01:56:44.119 --> 01:56:46.840
adapter to play someone? Actually?
Three someone issued some kind of weird controller

1757
01:56:46.960 --> 01:56:49.880
four the three sixty that has a
paddle, a paddle thing on it.

1758
01:56:49.960 --> 01:56:53.600
I don't know, so I don't
know what the compatibility is with it.

1759
01:56:55.079 --> 01:56:59.399
Warlord Money games. I still have
one of those USB two PS one controller

1760
01:56:59.439 --> 01:57:02.680
adapters. Yeah that when when the
dual shock was still the best thing that

1761
01:57:02.760 --> 01:57:14.920
you could do for a food fight. Food food fight. It's watermelons last

1762
01:57:14.960 --> 01:57:19.039
forever. I think that's all I
have for these digital releases except for Nintendo

1763
01:57:19.159 --> 01:57:23.920
products. Jeffy want do you want
to handle that? Yeah? Yeah,

1764
01:57:23.960 --> 01:57:26.000
do you have them? I sent
them to you. All right, Your

1765
01:57:26.039 --> 01:57:30.960
phone's on the table. Phone is
on the table. That's code. My

1766
01:57:30.119 --> 01:57:40.359
phone is on the table. Everyone
can checking my email. How do I

1767
01:57:40.399 --> 01:57:44.880
whistle? You know, last last
week you taught me drifting and that worked

1768
01:57:44.880 --> 01:57:46.880
out pretty well. Your tongue pretty
amount, dude. Like I know,

1769
01:57:47.000 --> 01:57:50.079
I understand the mechanics of it.
I just can't make it work like I

1770
01:57:50.159 --> 01:57:53.840
can almost. I'm not even gonna
make lick your lips. Lick your lips

1771
01:57:53.920 --> 01:57:59.000
first. I don't want to embarrass
myself, so you feel like I can,

1772
01:57:59.399 --> 01:58:00.960
Like, I know, you have
to kind of just move your lips

1773
01:58:01.000 --> 01:58:03.199
around until you find out. You
know, it's a good whistler, Rory,

1774
01:58:03.199 --> 01:58:05.319
he's a good whistler. He's got
a strong whistle. He's got a

1775
01:58:05.359 --> 01:58:09.720
good whistle. I've got limited range
with mine. Whistle with your hands.

1776
01:58:09.760 --> 01:58:15.760
Can you do that? I understand
how that works, understand corners. Yeah,

1777
01:58:16.720 --> 01:58:19.800
I wish my mom would do That's
like that's like the ballpark whistle,

1778
01:58:19.840 --> 01:58:21.640
right, yeah, Like that's when
you want to be heard. Yeah,

1779
01:58:21.640 --> 01:58:27.439
that's when you're going from volume.
Wow. I've been trying for years not

1780
01:58:29.199 --> 01:58:33.000
and it's always followed by somebody's name, that big loud whistle. Yeah,

1781
01:58:33.319 --> 01:58:40.640
that's it exactly. Do you want
to hear something about some ds I wear?

1782
01:58:40.840 --> 01:58:45.359
Jeff Gershman with the Nintendo downloads for
this week, the week of November

1783
01:58:45.439 --> 01:58:49.479
the twenty nine, twenty Jeff,
I've been taking it away. Cave Story

1784
01:58:49.840 --> 01:58:59.680
from what nasally this this email client
on the iPhone is dogshit ready to eat

1785
01:58:59.720 --> 01:59:03.399
ten plus one thousand intentity aside points. Cave Story takes you into a rare

1786
01:59:03.560 --> 01:59:10.039
world. We're a curious race of
innocent rabbit like creatures called again can't get

1787
01:59:10.039 --> 01:59:15.439
the texts duties to sol Mimiga run
free. You wake up in a darks

1788
01:59:15.479 --> 01:59:18.000
and I was scrolling back and forth. And that's even worse. This is

1789
01:59:18.039 --> 01:59:23.000
horrible. Mimi, God print these
out, prik these out. Let's just

1790
01:59:23.079 --> 01:59:27.119
read this. We know what cave
story is. It doesn't wrap like it

1791
01:59:27.159 --> 01:59:30.279
doesn't wrap. Everybody knows what cave
story is. Om cave story. And

1792
01:59:30.439 --> 01:59:32.560
I'm here to say and this is
a bummer. This is the one like

1793
01:59:32.720 --> 01:59:38.319
serious dsy ware reliefs that actually matters. You wake up in a dark cave

1794
01:59:38.399 --> 01:59:40.560
with no memory of who you are, where you came from, or why

1795
01:59:40.600 --> 01:59:43.760
you're in such a place. Uncovering
Mimiga village, you discover that the ones

1796
01:59:43.840 --> 01:59:46.199
care free. Maybe you got my
saying that right. So don't are in

1797
01:59:46.359 --> 01:59:50.000
danger at the hands of him,
A Nigel scientist. You only hope rests

1798
01:59:50.000 --> 01:59:53.880
squarely on the shoulders. I'm a
quiet, amnesiac boy who can't remember his

1799
01:59:53.960 --> 01:59:57.279
own name. Take control, learned
the origins of this world's power, Stop

1800
01:59:57.319 --> 02:00:00.399
the delusional villain and save them.
Wait this came out a really long time

1801
02:00:00.439 --> 02:00:11.600
ago on we wear Really I'm sorry, continue, Yeah, we need a

1802
02:00:11.680 --> 02:00:14.600
quick look. Yeah, you guys
did a quick was probably within the last

1803
02:00:14.680 --> 02:00:18.319
year Forensic. But I'm saying like, yeah, it's been a forensic by

1804
02:00:18.399 --> 02:00:24.399
two tribes. We're going to war
one player, ready to be for everyone

1805
02:00:24.520 --> 02:00:29.880
two. Forensic is a unique puzzle
game that dazzles the eye, teases the

1806
02:00:29.960 --> 02:00:32.399
brain, and it keeps you coming
back for more. Wait, it keeps

1807
02:00:32.439 --> 02:00:35.520
me? What? Coming back for
more? Okay? What do you think

1808
02:00:35.520 --> 02:00:39.399
I said? I was? I
was, I wasn't sure. It takes

1809
02:00:39.520 --> 02:00:44.399
only minutes to learn, but months
to master as you devise new impressive play

1810
02:00:44.439 --> 02:00:47.720
strategies to push your brain to its
limit. A win months, compete against

1811
02:00:47.760 --> 02:00:54.000
your personal best, and climb through
seven levels of devotion from Newby all the

1812
02:00:54.039 --> 02:00:58.359
way to Forensic. Master Forensics.
They must have four puzzle enthusiasts of all

1813
02:00:58.720 --> 02:01:03.520
ages. Care how old you are? Which ages? All of them?

1814
02:01:05.239 --> 02:01:10.199
It's a lot of ages. I'm
not gonna lie. It's every age spotted

1815
02:01:10.800 --> 02:01:18.000
challenge from Big John Games. It's
Big John Stud's game company. He's pretty

1816
02:01:18.159 --> 02:01:25.239
Yeah, he's driving a big rig. I like to make its downludable games.

1817
02:01:30.199 --> 02:01:33.079
The ladies love it when I reel
in with my Big John Games,

1818
02:01:40.720 --> 02:01:46.119
King of the Road with Your Big
John. In Spotted Challenge, players race

1819
02:01:46.199 --> 02:01:50.680
the clock to find hidden objects in
cleverly arranged scenes. The puzzles are based

1820
02:01:50.760 --> 02:01:57.119
on the popular Spotted book series published
by Capstone Press. See how many Objects

1821
02:01:57.199 --> 02:02:01.720
you can Spot in ten different puzzles. Vibrants make spotting objects fun and challenging.

1822
02:02:03.800 --> 02:02:08.199
Players use the stylists to tap on
the hidden objects and also to navigate

1823
02:02:08.239 --> 02:02:14.039
the extra large play areas. Spot
hundreds of hidden objects in ten themed puzzles,

1824
02:02:14.079 --> 02:02:17.279
including outdoor sports, board games,
and Fun with Food. Fun with

1825
02:02:17.479 --> 02:02:24.039
Food players can compete against their friends
using the pass around play feature. Up

1826
02:02:24.039 --> 02:02:27.239
to four players can race to find
ten objects hidden within a puzzle. Each

1827
02:02:27.319 --> 02:02:30.560
player has to spot the objects and
then pass it on to the next player.

1828
02:02:30.239 --> 02:02:33.600
See you can get the best score. Find objects fast to score the

1829
02:02:33.680 --> 02:02:36.640
most points. Three levels are difficult
to easy, medium, and in soon

1830
02:02:38.119 --> 02:02:43.319
provide lots of replay value. That
is the lengthiest description for a photo hunt

1831
02:02:43.399 --> 02:02:47.840
photo hunt Big John's photo Hunt.
You won't have to look long to find

1832
02:02:47.960 --> 02:02:53.199
my Big John's photo Hunt. I
tried wearing that shirt to school, and

1833
02:02:53.199 --> 02:02:58.960
they may be turning inside airport.
Maybe we're undo we wewear anywhere, We're

1834
02:02:59.000 --> 02:03:03.479
under wewear. Report Mania first flight
from Lemon Games is like before it got

1835
02:03:03.520 --> 02:03:09.560
really manic. We're just we're getting
into the psychosis is a prequel to It

1836
02:03:09.640 --> 02:03:12.640
takes like twenty years before. Airport
Mania is the first flight, so you

1837
02:03:12.680 --> 02:03:15.039
see him get out of cadet school
and all that stuff, and it's Lemon

1838
02:03:15.079 --> 02:03:19.840
Party, Lemon Games, Lemon Games
one to four players, radity for every

1839
02:03:19.880 --> 02:03:25.279
one five hundred WEE points at your
bags for a troop to the skies.

1840
02:03:25.439 --> 02:03:30.399
In Airport Mania, travel through eight
a music airports while you lay a variety

1841
02:03:30.479 --> 02:03:34.600
of planes, purchase upgrades, and
avoid delays. Stand your toes as some

1842
02:03:34.920 --> 02:03:40.399
planes carry precious cargo and we'll need
to land in a hurry, while others

1843
02:03:40.520 --> 02:03:44.840
might need a trip to the repair
shop. But with good planning you're sure

1844
02:03:44.880 --> 02:03:47.319
to make it to the game in
time when you need to Challenges, whimsical

1845
02:03:47.439 --> 02:03:51.159
characters and a fund that'll put the
smile on your face. Airport Mania is

1846
02:03:51.199 --> 02:03:57.199
one flight you can't miss. Can't
and I not miss any of my flights.

1847
02:03:57.680 --> 02:04:00.239
You can't miss it. You miss
out the fight. Whatever, it's

1848
02:04:00.239 --> 02:04:04.600
a the later flight, this one
you can't on miss h B Arcade disc

1849
02:04:04.880 --> 02:04:12.359
golf. What is the HB stand
for Hullabalu? Are you suggesting that HB

1850
02:04:12.560 --> 02:04:18.199
and at hullabaloo is two words stands
for handball, handball, arcade, disc

1851
02:04:18.359 --> 02:04:23.920
goll How about Hanna Barbera Hanna Barbera
Arcade. It's from HB Studios Multi Media,

1852
02:04:24.399 --> 02:04:35.960
so stands for Hank Bazaria Wonder four
Players. He's Hank Bizaria Wonder four

1853
02:04:36.000 --> 02:04:46.640
Players, rated E for everyone one
thousand we points. I don't know if

1854
02:04:46.640 --> 02:04:53.039
it features this voice talents. If
it didn't, it's his company. He

1855
02:04:53.079 --> 02:04:57.760
doesn't mean he wants to read.
H B Arcade Disc golf recreates the popular

1856
02:04:57.960 --> 02:05:00.840
disc flinging sport in the comfort of
your own living room. Playing the game

1857
02:05:00.960 --> 02:05:04.960
is as easy as tossing a disc
around on a beautiful day. What did

1858
02:05:05.039 --> 02:05:10.000
I just tusk? I bet it's
actually cheaper. The goal of the game

1859
02:05:10.119 --> 02:05:12.720
is to put the disc in the
basket and the fuse throws possible. Disc

1860
02:05:12.800 --> 02:05:15.600
golfers have three different types of discs
at their disposal went out on the course,

1861
02:05:15.880 --> 02:05:19.319
a driver, a mid range disc, and a putter. Also,

1862
02:05:19.520 --> 02:05:24.000
there are three different types of throws
available, forehand, backhand, and the

1863
02:05:24.079 --> 02:05:28.600
hammer throw. The forehand and backhand
throws change based on the handedness of the

1864
02:05:28.680 --> 02:05:31.399
players, and it can be used
to draw or fade a shot. While

1865
02:05:31.439 --> 02:05:34.880
the hammer throw it's less about distance
and more about height. At the end

1866
02:05:34.880 --> 02:05:39.960
of the round scores nortality to the
player with the lowest score is the winner,

1867
02:05:40.279 --> 02:05:47.239
like regular golf, like non hb
arcade disc due for this is what

1868
02:05:47.399 --> 02:05:51.039
Hank wanted. Cave Story demo version. We don't have to read this from

1869
02:05:51.520 --> 02:05:55.720
this iss. This already came out, just available as a demo has zero

1870
02:05:55.800 --> 02:05:59.399
points. Does it say if that's
the we wear version? I guess it

1871
02:05:59.439 --> 02:06:04.279
would be because it's the sexual Yeah, this is the way where there's say

1872
02:06:04.279 --> 02:06:08.680
anything about I think it is an
updated graphics version of Yeah, they kind

1873
02:06:08.720 --> 02:06:11.319
of remade it for the week.
It's got to be that for I believe

1874
02:06:11.319 --> 02:06:14.439
it is that or something similar to
that. I'm gonna it. So the

1875
02:06:14.479 --> 02:06:15.880
full version of Cave Story is available
for the week for twelve hundred points.

1876
02:06:15.920 --> 02:06:20.039
But now this demo, it's the
exact same text from the DS on.

1877
02:06:20.199 --> 02:06:28.600
We're not going to read that virtual
console. Are you ready? I'm ready?

1878
02:06:28.840 --> 02:06:31.800
Magic Drop two it's Magical Drop two
for the Neo Geo, originally in

1879
02:06:31.880 --> 02:06:35.600
D four enterprise one to two players, rated T for mod suggestive themes and

1880
02:06:35.880 --> 02:06:40.079
nine hundred week points. Magical Drop
two is a puzzle action game, at

1881
02:06:40.119 --> 02:06:43.640
least by Data East in nineteen ninety
six. The rules are simple. Control

1882
02:06:43.720 --> 02:06:47.039
of the clown, control the back
of the balloons that appear on the screen.

1883
02:06:47.039 --> 02:06:49.880
I'm gonna stop you right there asking
me to control the clown that's trying.

1884
02:06:49.920 --> 02:06:53.720
You have to control. If you
don't control the clown, the clown

1885
02:06:53.800 --> 02:06:58.439
is going to control you. The
clown does what it was away speaking to

1886
02:06:58.600 --> 02:07:04.680
Ryan. You are talking to the
Ryan in there. Talk to Ryan.

1887
02:07:05.479 --> 02:07:09.880
There is no Dana. If you
line up through your arm balloons in the

1888
02:07:09.920 --> 02:07:14.119
same color in a row vertically,
they will burst. Some balloons feature you

1889
02:07:14.199 --> 02:07:23.199
feature unique characteristics. Special balloons.
They're full of nitrous ribbed. What's the

1890
02:07:23.319 --> 02:07:27.720
suggestive material in here? Why is
it? Clown? It's anime, ladies.

1891
02:07:27.760 --> 02:07:32.159
I think special balloons which come in
all four colors. Oh pop,

1892
02:07:32.279 --> 02:07:36.039
every balloon of the same color.
Arrow balloons burst everything in the direction of

1893
02:07:36.039 --> 02:07:41.239
the arrows facing Brainbow balloons have the
same effect of special balloons, but can

1894
02:07:41.279 --> 02:07:45.960
be thrown against a balloon of any
color. And then there are bubble balloons,

1895
02:07:45.159 --> 02:07:48.079
which simply get in your way.
Oh, I get it together.

1896
02:07:48.359 --> 02:07:53.359
These provide you with great chains and
combos that make up puzzle games so much

1897
02:07:53.439 --> 02:07:59.000
fun. Choose between versus CPU mode, full of battles and a host of

1898
02:07:59.079 --> 02:08:03.159
comical characters, and Puzzle Mode,
where you'll enjoy a one player challenge.

1899
02:08:03.640 --> 02:08:07.039
Both modes support player versus player action, meaning you can have a great time

1900
02:08:07.119 --> 02:08:13.319
together with friends. Suggest that I
feel I feel now. I feel really

1901
02:08:13.399 --> 02:08:18.319
bad for the people who have to
write these all of a sudden, because

1902
02:08:18.399 --> 02:08:24.000
Magical Drop is an okay neo geo
game. Yeah, but but that description

1903
02:08:24.199 --> 02:08:33.640
descriptions and I just got an email. The moon can Hatchling and Lil Ragnaros

1904
02:08:33.720 --> 02:08:39.680
are now available for your World Warcraft
pet store ten bucks apiece The Tiniest fire

1905
02:08:39.800 --> 02:08:43.680
Lord, Little Ragnaros, The Tiniest
fire Lord. Ragnaro's the Dreadmaster of all

1906
02:08:43.760 --> 02:08:48.880
fire elementals. We're returning Cataclysm to
a vengees defeating the Molten Core, and

1907
02:08:50.000 --> 02:08:50.960
what a better way to hit in
the battle with a miniature version of the

1908
02:08:52.000 --> 02:08:56.159
fire Lord himself following your ball.
Little Ragnaro's just like his full scale namesake,

1909
02:08:56.279 --> 02:09:00.920
burns with constant fury, not to
mention flames, serves a handy cooking

1910
02:09:01.000 --> 02:09:03.439
fire, and it comes to up
with the legendary hammer soul for us.

1911
02:09:03.720 --> 02:09:07.000
I'm afraid that if we don't stop
this, he's gonna keep reading everything as

1912
02:09:09.039 --> 02:09:11.600
the fire. He has no need
to walk from place to place. He

1913
02:09:11.680 --> 02:09:13.760
just submerges into the back below the
world service when he's not walking, remerers,

1914
02:09:13.800 --> 02:09:16.039
when you stop now, we don't
have time for emails. How about,

1915
02:09:16.119 --> 02:09:18.640
oh man, how about how about
a real time check of my jury

1916
02:09:18.720 --> 02:09:22.079
service? All right, I'm about
to find out. Find out as we

1917
02:09:22.159 --> 02:09:30.199
speak you needed to be at oh
save for another day. It looks like

1918
02:09:30.239 --> 02:09:33.439
your numbers, John here, and
let's see if there's one too. You

1919
02:09:33.479 --> 02:09:37.479
know what I do with those things? Ignore them? Really, you've never

1920
02:09:37.600 --> 02:09:43.720
done it. That's why he's being
called for your case. Well, shouldn't

1921
02:09:43.720 --> 02:09:46.560
he be serving me papers or something? He's not to say, he's not

1922
02:09:46.720 --> 02:09:52.079
serving you getting served the cloud.
The cloud's gonna get served by speaking the

1923
02:09:52.159 --> 02:09:56.560
right of the cloud. Here's your
papers, your service. No, it's

1924
02:09:56.600 --> 02:10:03.119
really right. All right, Let's
let's squeeze in whatever emails that we can

1925
02:10:03.239 --> 02:10:09.720
hear. Bomb cast at giant bomb
dot com is the email address as well

1926
02:10:09.800 --> 02:10:18.000
as the email address email Mike Voight
from Washington. Hey no, Mike,

1927
02:10:18.920 --> 02:10:22.239
well you just said it wrong,
and Mike m I k e voit.

1928
02:10:24.479 --> 02:10:28.560
Hey bomb cast crew. Do you
think that a successful film adaptation of The

1929
02:10:28.880 --> 02:10:35.239
Dig can be made? If any
care about the thoughts? Jeff Gershman thoughts

1930
02:10:35.279 --> 02:10:39.119
asked me about the film film version
of The Dig. What do you think

1931
02:10:39.159 --> 02:10:41.159
about the possibility of there being a
film version of The Dig? I didn't

1932
02:10:41.159 --> 02:10:46.479
actually think you would ask me.
The Dick has kind of a crazy story

1933
02:10:46.520 --> 02:10:52.159
that does a step Spielberg, That
a man Steve Spielberg's LucasArts the Dig.

1934
02:10:52.880 --> 02:10:56.319
I don't know play the Dick.
Tell me about the Dick. It's a

1935
02:10:56.399 --> 02:11:00.159
goofy sci fi. It's pretty goofy. Didn't play The Dig? Was the

1936
02:11:00.199 --> 02:11:03.800
Dig super short? I played a
kind of recently, not so many years

1937
02:11:03.840 --> 02:11:07.159
ago. Wait, I'm thinking about
Loom. I think Loom was like two

1938
02:11:07.199 --> 02:11:13.840
hours long. Yeah, this was
more the Dig was was? I remember

1939
02:11:13.039 --> 02:11:18.159
also highly chastised for being a lot
of flash but not much gameplay. Yeah,

1940
02:11:18.319 --> 02:11:22.720
yeah, that's that's kind of high. I remember as well. It

1941
02:11:22.840 --> 02:11:30.640
was very India together with Loom,
and they asked me about category. I

1942
02:11:30.680 --> 02:11:33.000
don't think there was ever a pin
that said asked me about the Dig,

1943
02:11:33.039 --> 02:11:35.119
though that's true, there was not. I feel like the Dig has been

1944
02:11:35.199 --> 02:11:39.600
made, you know, there is
there's some version of a movie that closely

1945
02:11:39.680 --> 02:11:43.720
resembles what the Dig set out to
close enough you're saying, yeah, all

1946
02:11:43.800 --> 02:11:48.159
right. This next email comes in
from Cavan in Bloomington, Indiana abond Casters.

1947
02:11:48.680 --> 02:11:52.119
I just noticed that there are now
three Need for Speed Hot Pursuit games,

1948
02:11:52.520 --> 02:11:56.800
the first being Need for Speed three
Hot Pursuit, the second being Need

1949
02:11:56.880 --> 02:12:01.000
for Speed Hot Pursuit too, and
the third being Need for Speed Hot Pursuit.

1950
02:12:01.600 --> 02:12:05.119
Why is this crazy world we live
in so backward? That's pretty good.

1951
02:12:05.199 --> 02:12:09.319
That's a pretty good observation. I'm
actually excited that none of those games

1952
02:12:09.399 --> 02:12:13.159
have the exact same title, like
that makes it okay whatever. And I

1953
02:12:13.239 --> 02:12:16.199
was also recently reminded of the fact
that the first Need for Speed game this

1954
02:12:16.520 --> 02:12:22.399
goes back to the Hot Balloon Hot
Air Balloon conversations. It is full of

1955
02:12:22.439 --> 02:12:31.359
hot air balloons, but also it's
called Needs for Speed, So so even

1956
02:12:31.560 --> 02:12:35.800
even at its beginnings it had a
weird basis and they shed that road and

1957
02:12:35.880 --> 02:12:37.319
track license real quick, Like,
those guys, what are they giving us

1958
02:12:37.399 --> 02:12:43.680
nothing? Cars? We can make
three DIO games without them, and they

1959
02:12:43.720 --> 02:12:48.840
were wrong. The countdown began with
Need for Speed Hot Pursuit. It's basically

1960
02:12:48.960 --> 02:12:52.239
him advent calendar for twenty twelve,
Like we're just counting down when Need for

1961
02:12:52.359 --> 02:12:58.840
Speed Hot Pursuit zero hits worldwide?
All right? I called it, Bring

1962
02:12:58.880 --> 02:13:01.720
a coupon. Next time you come
for the Invisible Man, bring up fucking

1963
02:13:01.800 --> 02:13:07.760
coupon. Nextino comes in for Ryan
James bossa Hey bomb squad. I got

1964
02:13:07.840 --> 02:13:13.960
a question for Jeff. I'm here, what is the better early nineties dance

1965
02:13:15.039 --> 02:13:18.920
hall classic, snows Informer or any
commoses? Here comes the Hot Stepper.

1966
02:13:20.600 --> 02:13:24.359
I think if you're judging it by
it's dance hullness, Hot Stepper has to

1967
02:13:24.520 --> 02:13:28.640
take that. You're absolutely right,
Yeah, Now overall, overall, I

1968
02:13:28.760 --> 02:13:35.319
prefer snows Informer. It's a better
song. Unless you're making a movie trailer,

1969
02:13:35.000 --> 02:13:39.880
then Hot Stepper there there's unless you're
working on Ready to Wear. He's

1970
02:13:39.880 --> 02:13:45.920
also has a song called the Lyrical
Gangster. Yeah, like the other part

1971
02:13:46.000 --> 02:13:48.840
of his most well known songs like
well, let's spin that out movie something

1972
02:13:48.960 --> 02:13:54.119
that's probably the thing where I say
I'm a lyrical gangster that one time repeatedly

1973
02:13:54.159 --> 02:14:01.520
in my song Yeah Yes. Tyler
from Austin's Call of Duty, Black Ops,

1974
02:14:01.520 --> 02:14:05.560
Splitter Cell Conviction, and Alpha Protocol
all used the same storytelling device where

1975
02:14:05.560 --> 02:14:07.439
a character is interrogated in a dark
room and then they flash back to a

1976
02:14:07.520 --> 02:14:11.840
mission. I was just wondering if
this had a name, none that I

1977
02:14:11.960 --> 02:14:15.279
could think of. But I feel
like this is trimmed enough that we need

1978
02:14:15.359 --> 02:14:18.439
to need to take it to the
crowd more than just like a flashback.

1979
02:14:18.520 --> 02:14:26.560
But it's this very specific situation,
the interrogation flashback and then derogatory flashback.

1980
02:14:26.880 --> 02:14:28.199
There needs to be a better name
for it than that. But that is

1981
02:14:28.359 --> 02:14:31.520
we can establish that that's what it
is on a clinical level. Is that

1982
02:14:31.960 --> 02:14:37.079
interrogation flashback, interrogation flashback. It
doesn't matter. We didn't apport Manteau though,

1983
02:14:37.119 --> 02:14:41.720
because because every time we've done that
it just leads to bad pages.

1984
02:14:41.960 --> 02:14:45.880
Nas Khan is bad. Is bad. It's a bad name for a thing

1985
02:14:45.960 --> 02:14:50.319
I don't remember. We need to
come to terms with that out that that's

1986
02:14:50.359 --> 02:14:54.479
not that's not That name is not
catching on. What's wrong with it?

1987
02:14:54.760 --> 02:14:56.079
It doesn't make me sense. I
don't even I don't even remember what it

1988
02:14:56.239 --> 02:15:03.600
is. I don't remember how nostalgic
it's. Yeah, it was patterned after

1989
02:15:03.680 --> 02:15:05.840
retcon, but it doesn't know.
It doesn't follow the same internal logic.

1990
02:15:07.000 --> 02:15:11.319
That's the problem. And I think
it described. You're right, I can't

1991
02:15:11.640 --> 02:15:16.720
old. It's like, is it
like remakes of old games retro driven by

1992
02:15:16.760 --> 02:15:18.039
your nostalgia? Is that what it's
supposed to be. It's faux retro,

1993
02:15:18.199 --> 02:15:22.840
like somebody name a game in that
three D game heroes like faux retro.

1994
02:15:22.039 --> 02:15:26.359
Okay, it's not really old.
It just looks old. Does a Scott

1995
02:15:26.359 --> 02:15:30.600
Pilgrim downloadable game? Yes, I
think that's what it means. I don't

1996
02:15:30.640 --> 02:15:33.119
remember. That's that's why I'm saying, wename that page. That's that's what

1997
02:15:33.199 --> 02:15:39.560
I'm saying. Interrogation flashback. That's
a good point. But even still,

1998
02:15:39.720 --> 02:15:45.600
let's let's make I still think interrogation
flashback is a valid that's a concept,

1999
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So jump on it. So everyone
race to make that, and then the

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mods will have to delete ten copies
of it. Well, we got to

2001
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do something for the mods. Yeah, you're right, Oh, okay,

2002
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this is a good Emails comes in
from Elvin kickerbe kick Abe kirk Abe.

2003
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You're right, this is a good
email. Iven Kirk and b He's from

2004
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Norway, so his name is fucking
spelled real weird, all right, dear

2005
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Bomb. I go to the Kirkybees
all the time. They have half off

2006
02:16:13.960 --> 02:16:18.720
apps after nine pm. Dear Bomb
casts. In your last show, you

2007
02:16:18.880 --> 02:16:22.600
ridiculed the idea of going trick or
treating during Christmas time when you were talking

2008
02:16:22.640 --> 02:16:28.960
about the forthcoming Christmas theme DLC for
the game Costume Quest. However, however,

2009
02:16:30.439 --> 02:16:33.399
this is actually an old, albeit
diet tradition here in Norway. Where

2010
02:16:33.399 --> 02:16:35.600
are you as on Halloween put out
a disguise and then knock on doors and

2011
02:16:35.639 --> 02:16:41.799
ask for candy, often having sung
a juel Tide themed song. If you

2012
02:16:41.920 --> 02:16:46.280
want to no more, go Google
or look up the word jul Buck on

2013
02:16:46.399 --> 02:16:50.920
Wikipedia. So if they were too, if they were to tie it into

2014
02:16:52.239 --> 02:16:56.399
Norse tradition, which honestly does not
seem outside of the realm of reason,

2015
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something that the guy has a double
fun would do, then then it creates

2016
02:17:00.799 --> 02:17:05.959
some sort of hook for that stuff. Speed stack as speed Yeah, that's

2017
02:17:05.000 --> 02:17:09.799
also a thing. Also last week
and I got a bunch of response from

2018
02:17:09.799 --> 02:17:16.959
this, but I will credit this
Tim hibs Uh, we were talking about

2019
02:17:16.959 --> 02:17:20.840
how Dice had got a credit on
Need for Speed Hot Pursuit. Apparently they

2020
02:17:20.840 --> 02:17:24.040
made the world. Probably they made
the environments of Need for Speed Hot Pursuit.

2021
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He made. Wow, what they
made the world? Apparently like the

2022
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courses, also, like at least
like the environments, at least like what

2023
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the look of the world was like. They made that stuff. I don't

2024
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know if they That means they were
just like turn for turn, but our

2025
02:17:41.799 --> 02:17:46.200
assets presumably some amount of design assets. But there we go. Do you

2026
02:17:46.280 --> 02:17:50.120
think do you think that means that
not all of Criterion was on this project?

2027
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I have no idea. I don't
know. I don't know what.

2028
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I don't know what all the criterions
working on Black two. Who knows what

2029
02:17:56.399 --> 02:17:58.600
all of Criterion is this at this
point? I don't. I don't know

2030
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how big that company is. I
don't know how the teams they have internally

2031
02:18:01.719 --> 02:18:05.040
fair enough, it's all all black
Box. It's all Blur. No black

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Box is different Blur, completely different, Blur gut sold off something they are

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and something for sure. That's it
for emails. Thanks everyone who wrote in

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bombast dot com just work on getting
that name. Flashback, turning flashback.

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I'm gonna look at look at the
punster. Would you mind bending over there.

2036
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I'm trying to come up with the
name for that thing, aren't we

2037
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interrogation flashback? Yeah, yeah,
that's gonna do it for this week's addition,

2038
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Back in the Saddle. I don't
think two days off counts as being

2039
02:18:43.719 --> 02:18:48.360
out of the saddle. I feel
pretty out of the saddle. I got

2040
02:18:48.440 --> 02:18:56.120
back in the saddle pretty easily.
All the back pain and kind of wait,

2041
02:18:56.200 --> 02:19:01.760
just fell right back. Yeah it
is. That's sort of feels like

2042
02:19:01.799 --> 02:19:05.520
being in the saddle. What do
you want? What are you we're talking

2043
02:19:05.559 --> 02:19:07.799
about? That's gonna do it for
this week's edition of The Giant Podcast.

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Be sure to back in next Tuesday
for another edition of The Giant Podcast.