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Welcome to Spycraft, a podcast that
tells gripping life and death spy stories and

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the amazing devices and operations that made
them possible. Now, let's get started.

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Students are magnet targets for espionage.
Warrens the m I five. Ken

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McCollum said that hostile actors such as
Russia, Iran, China were attempting to

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steal research secrets from Britain's universities with
dispariting regularity. He cautioned that the systemic

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competition to get ahead in science and
technologies every bit as far reaching as the

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race to space. If your field
of research is relevant, then be careful

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because you're going to be of interest
to people are employed by these states China,

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Russia and Iran. M I five's
investigations are spotting such tactics taking place

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in subtle ways, such as they
attractive conference invitation which we've known for years,

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or collaboration proposal or strategic partnerships or
donations with strings, or jointly funded

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research, or even through post grad
students themselves. Mister McCollum, Warren students

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and lecturers precisely because their great universities
are great and rightly prize openness, there

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are magnetic targets for espionage and manipulation. He stressed the security as a requirement

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for research integrity. Students and academics
should therefore be alive to these issues and

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up for the conversation and make the
effort with their support to make those difficult

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choices consciously. A lot of times
they'll lure them in. They look for

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these individuals where they're grad students,
professors, and again, as we mentioned

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earlier, they'll lose them in with
ideas such as joint funded research, going

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into donations, investment proposals, anything
that they can get access to. We

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saw the Russians did this. I
think I were a decade ago. They

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had two people that were already PhDs
in Russia, but they came over to

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grad schools here. Can remember of
the universities in the US, and they

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didn't acknowledge that they had graduate degrees
in the particular field, and they went

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in as master's students and went all
the way up. They stayed here as

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ten years, even had a family
here, and so huge amount of data

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is siphoned from them. So universities
and grad students their targets as well. Now

