WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.279 Let's go to work, Fred Rugan Rodney Peach on AM five to seventy LA 2 00:00:03.399 --> 00:00:07.440 Sports two hour show Force. Today, Rodney, we are giving away a 3 00:00:07.519 --> 00:00:11.839 four pack of tickets to the Winterfest in OC. It's Southern California's largest winter 4 00:00:11.880 --> 00:00:16.039 festival, taking place down at the OC Fair and Event Center and Coasta Mesa 5 00:00:16.320 --> 00:00:21.559 select dates from now through January seventh. So we're giving away a four pack 6 00:00:21.600 --> 00:00:25.519 of tickets. How about that? I like that, I like that night. 7 00:00:25.559 --> 00:00:28.160 Those are those are great. It's a great event down there. And 8 00:00:28.239 --> 00:00:31.320 let's do this. Let's also give away a two hundred and fifty dollars Burke 9 00:00:31.359 --> 00:00:34.159 Williams gift card. And you talk to me now now you're speak in my 10 00:00:34.280 --> 00:00:37.159 language. I know you love it there. Oh, I love Burke Williams. 11 00:00:38.159 --> 00:00:41.880 It's almost more than like itself. Right. It's a great gift for 12 00:00:42.039 --> 00:00:45.960 mom, your grandmom. Hell Rodney Rodney, great gift for you if you 13 00:00:45.960 --> 00:00:50.200 want, Yes, it is. So if you're feeling generous out there this 14 00:00:50.280 --> 00:00:54.600 holiday season, you know, give it old uncle Rodney. Well, there 15 00:00:54.640 --> 00:00:57.240 you go. It's a gift for anybody. It's a gift for everybody. 16 00:00:57.320 --> 00:00:59.719 It's a gift for you and it's a great Christmas gift and we're giving it 17 00:00:59.759 --> 00:01:03.159 away between now and two o'clock and they'll make two hours show today. Bottom 18 00:01:03.159 --> 00:01:06.480 of the Hour will play Know Your Squad. And when we play Know Your 19 00:01:06.519 --> 00:01:10.719 Squad, we'll give one of the prizes away if you win. If you 20 00:01:10.719 --> 00:01:14.359 don't win, we open it up for everybody. All Right, It takes 21 00:01:14.359 --> 00:01:18.920 money to make money, right, you've heard that, you for that. 22 00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:23.200 Take that again. Takes money to make money. You've heard that slogan, 23 00:01:23.239 --> 00:01:27.719 avenue that old saying, takes money to make money. Yes, of course, 24 00:01:27.959 --> 00:01:32.239 yes, yes, yes, there we go. So if it takes 25 00:01:32.239 --> 00:01:34.760 money to make money, the more money you have, the more money you 26 00:01:34.799 --> 00:01:40.000 can make because you know how to make money. It's pretty simple. So 27 00:01:40.079 --> 00:01:42.239 look at Guggenheim. They're an investment company. They handle three hundred and eighty 28 00:01:42.280 --> 00:01:47.599 billion dollars worth of people's investments. I'd say they're highly capitalized and they know 29 00:01:47.640 --> 00:01:49.439 what they're doing. They've been in business a long time and they know how 30 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:53.799 to make money. That's why so many people turn to them as clients. 31 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:57.959 Well, Googenheim of course owns the Dodgers. Mark Walter, the managing general 32 00:01:59.040 --> 00:02:02.760 partner from Ogenheim, he's got a big piece of it. So they've got 33 00:02:02.760 --> 00:02:07.799 pretty deep pockets. They can pretty much do whatever they want. They don't 34 00:02:07.799 --> 00:02:10.639 want to go insane or be crazy because that would be bad business, but 35 00:02:10.759 --> 00:02:15.360 within the parameters of good business, they'll do whatever needs to be done or 36 00:02:15.400 --> 00:02:21.360 show heo Tani the seven hundred million dollars, six hundred and eighty million dollars 37 00:02:21.360 --> 00:02:23.919 of it deferred. So we're sitting there thinking, well, you know, 38 00:02:23.960 --> 00:02:29.000 after ten years and he's done, Gogenheim's got to start paying the guy sixty 39 00:02:29.000 --> 00:02:34.719 eight million dollars a year. But they have money, no hold on. 40 00:02:35.120 --> 00:02:39.560 Jack Harris at the Times figured this out and it's really pretty smart. You 41 00:02:39.599 --> 00:02:45.360 see, the money that they would be paying him, they can turn around 42 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:53.080 and reinvest. So they're in essence investing six hundred and eighty million dollars, 43 00:02:54.719 --> 00:03:00.759 And in ten years, what will six hundred and eighty million dollars of investments 44 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:09.000 generate. It could generate one billion dollars. Now, think about that, 45 00:03:09.759 --> 00:03:15.080 they're going to invest the money that they were going to pay him. Fine, 46 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:21.719 that investment will grow, so at the time it's time for them to 47 00:03:21.719 --> 00:03:28.000 pay him, that money may have made them an additional billion dollars. Yes, 48 00:03:29.159 --> 00:03:32.080 that's pretty shrilly. In essence, they're not really coming out of pocket 49 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:35.840 too much at all. And and on top of that, I mean you 50 00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:42.319 just think in the typical stock market, you know, you usually you know, 51 00:03:42.400 --> 00:03:47.000 from a conservative standpoint, you would get generate ten percent interest annually, 52 00:03:47.080 --> 00:03:51.400 right, so you know you add and factor that in over a period of 53 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:53.759 ten years, and what that What does that look like on six hundred and 54 00:03:53.759 --> 00:04:00.280 eighty million dollars? And remember they Otani did not take make any interest on 55 00:04:00.360 --> 00:04:04.240 the money, so there's not going to be an extra as they call it 56 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:08.439 viig. At the end of ten years, it is six hundred and eighty 57 00:04:08.439 --> 00:04:11.120 million dollars, it's six hundred and eighty millions today, it's six hundred and 58 00:04:11.120 --> 00:04:14.919 eighty million dollars ten years from now. I would have done it differently. 59 00:04:14.960 --> 00:04:17.399 I would have done it with the factor in inflation over the ten years and 60 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:21.199 added that in which a lot of people have done. But he did not 61 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:27.079 do that. And also the Dodgers don't have to show that money for the 62 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:29.920 first two years. Remember, in essence, is going to be about forty 63 00:04:29.959 --> 00:04:32.399 six or whatever million dollars a year that they have to have in an account 64 00:04:32.399 --> 00:04:38.040 and have it ready or at least in an escrow or liquid somehow. They 65 00:04:38.079 --> 00:04:41.079 have to have that money ready to go. They can't just go ten years 66 00:04:41.399 --> 00:04:43.759 and say, Okay, we don't know where the money is, that we'll 67 00:04:43.800 --> 00:04:45.800 come up with it in ten years. No, they have to show that 68 00:04:45.879 --> 00:04:48.879 money within two years, and then every year after that that they can pay 69 00:04:48.920 --> 00:04:53.680 it. But they still have two years at least to invest that money, 70 00:04:53.720 --> 00:04:57.000 but all the ten years to invest the bulk of it. It is a 71 00:04:57.639 --> 00:05:03.839 brilliant way for Google to really pretty much not really come out of pocket at 72 00:05:03.920 --> 00:05:08.160 all. They're gonna make money. Yeah, come out a part. They're 73 00:05:08.160 --> 00:05:13.839 gonna make money. Yeah, that's the funniest part of it. Yeah, 74 00:05:13.879 --> 00:05:15.879 here's the money. Now, we're just gonna invest it. We're just put 75 00:05:15.879 --> 00:05:20.000 in a savings account with a high interest return. We're not going to touch 76 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:26.600 it now. At the end of ten years, that money is now worth 77 00:05:27.199 --> 00:05:31.920 X. But we only owe you why, right, that's all We're going 78 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:35.399 to invest the money. You know where, We're gonna invest it with us. 79 00:05:36.279 --> 00:05:42.800 We'll invest with us exactly. We'll make all the interest on the money, 80 00:05:43.560 --> 00:05:46.839 and on top of it, we'll get the dividends from the money correct. 81 00:05:47.000 --> 00:05:50.560 So at the end of the ten years, not only are we not 82 00:05:50.680 --> 00:05:57.240 on a pocket because we've already made our dividends and our interests. We just 83 00:05:57.279 --> 00:06:02.240 put years over here. Now, yeah, we've made money, we spent 84 00:06:02.319 --> 00:06:08.519 you. We're paying you seven hundred million dollars and when it's all said and 85 00:06:08.600 --> 00:06:15.240 done, we made money. That is come the first it's brilliant, and 86 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:21.920 second that's insane. But they figured out how to do it. And then 87 00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:26.519 the cherry on the Sunday he said, he said, just give me two 88 00:06:26.519 --> 00:06:29.560 million a year. Just give me two Yeah, all I need is too. 89 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:32.920 Well, they found out in the couch that's that's just going hey go 90 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:36.600 get that, uh that walking around money we had over there in the in 91 00:06:36.639 --> 00:06:40.079 the closet, just go give that. That's we'll give that to a Tani 92 00:06:40.120 --> 00:06:44.920 every year. This is two million dollars. It is. It is absolutely 93 00:06:44.959 --> 00:06:46.560 brilliant. It saves them. First of all, like you said, they're 94 00:06:46.600 --> 00:06:55.199 making money, and then they're not getting hit every single year with seventy million 95 00:06:55.240 --> 00:06:59.360 dollars, you know what I mean. So they can go out and sign 96 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:03.639 pass a Yamamoto or the other people that they need because they're not getting hit 97 00:07:03.680 --> 00:07:08.120 with the old Tani contract. And by the way, from what I've read, 98 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:11.600 everybody that was in at the end, the Blue Jays, I think, 99 00:07:11.639 --> 00:07:16.160 the Giants, the Dodgers, the Angels. Everybody agreed to this plan 100 00:07:16.360 --> 00:07:21.800 except the Angels. Except the Angels, except the Angel. So everybody was 101 00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:27.240 willing to do it. Anybody with deep pockets figured out that all you got 102 00:07:27.240 --> 00:07:30.240 to do is turn around and invest the money and you'll get paid dividends on 103 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:32.879 the money, so you'll make more. They were like, everybody was thinking, 104 00:07:33.399 --> 00:07:38.360 how so can we sign this is what you want to do? Okay, 105 00:07:38.680 --> 00:07:43.120 this is great for us. Come on, and only the Angels only 106 00:07:43.160 --> 00:07:46.959 the Angel said no, walked at it. Only any team out there. 107 00:07:48.480 --> 00:07:54.120 If any team out there needed a deal like this, it was the Angels. 108 00:07:55.360 --> 00:07:59.439 You talk about a team friendly deal, it would have been the Angels. 109 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:01.720 If the Angels would have looked at it and go, wait, we 110 00:08:01.800 --> 00:08:05.480 only got to pay you two million dollars. We don't have to come we 111 00:08:05.480 --> 00:08:09.000 don't have to pay you six' eighty until the end of the end of 112 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:13.279 the contract, and we save all this money. It okay, let's do 113 00:08:13.319 --> 00:08:16.199 that right now. Why wouldn't they just rush to try to do that deal. 114 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:24.600 Two reasons. Number one because already probably doesn't have the cash, may 115 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:26.600 not have the cash flow to pull that off. That's number one. Now, 116 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:30.519 if he had sold me, he doesn't have to have all the cash 117 00:08:30.560 --> 00:08:33.320 flow to pull But you got to put forty six two years from now for 118 00:08:33.320 --> 00:08:37.320 it. It doesn't matter. That could affect his payroll. He may not 119 00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:41.080 be able to build his team. I don't think he has the money. 120 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:43.919 I think that's what got him. If he had sold the team to somebody 121 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:48.919 with deep pockets, tell thirty percent of the team, then well how about 122 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:52.639 that. He could have considered that, but he chose not to. He 123 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:56.480 could have sold the entire franchise. He chose not to. So he sits 124 00:08:56.480 --> 00:09:00.879 where he sits. And I'm not talking out of do the deal and then 125 00:09:00.919 --> 00:09:05.080 sell the team. Well you were thinking that, But if you're the owner 126 00:09:05.080 --> 00:09:09.879 of the team, you know that's another six hundred and eighty dollars you add 127 00:09:09.919 --> 00:09:13.399 to it now if you have the cab. But if you're the owner of 128 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:15.919 the team, you look at it. You look at it just like Googenheim 129 00:09:15.919 --> 00:09:18.159 would look at it. Wait a minute, I'm gonna buy this team, 130 00:09:18.639 --> 00:09:20.960 and this is the Otani contract. That I'm walking into. Oh that's done. 131 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:24.360 Deal, let's go, because anybody who's going to buy the team's going 132 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:30.679 to understand it like the Guggenheim Diet guys do. So I'm talking to somebody 133 00:09:30.759 --> 00:09:33.480 yesterday. I'm not going to reveal who this person is, all right, 134 00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:37.919 And I don't think I'm talking out of school anyway. This person used to 135 00:09:37.960 --> 00:09:48.320 work for the Angels in a front office capacity in sales, pretty high ranking. 136 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:50.279 Okay, you with me. So this guy knows what's going on. 137 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:54.919 And I'm talking to him, and I'm talking about the Angels and how they 138 00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:58.000 lost Otani, and I know he worked there, and you know what he 139 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:03.039 said. And this guy, I worked there for a couple of years in 140 00:10:03.080 --> 00:10:07.600 a pretty high ranking position. He said, the fish always thinks from the 141 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:13.000 head down. The problem is already moreno. And the guy worked there, 142 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:18.080 he was on the inside. He knew everything, he saw everything, he 143 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:22.200 understood how they operated. And I said, that's a pretty strong statement to 144 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:24.799 make. He goes. Anybody that works there knows that that's the problem with 145 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:30.720 the Angels. It's already moreno. He bungled completely, bungled, holding on 146 00:10:30.799 --> 00:10:35.639 to Otani. Bungled it. They should have traded him, didn't trade him, 147 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:41.559 ended up losing him. That's the issue. And net came from somebody 148 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:45.600 that works there worked not only losing him, but you lost him to the 149 00:10:45.639 --> 00:10:48.320 team up the road. Oh why the arch competitor. I mean, if 150 00:10:48.360 --> 00:10:50.600 they think about it, if they traded him, they could have traded him 151 00:10:50.639 --> 00:10:54.759 way to the East Coast, so he wouldn't have been he wouldn't have been 152 00:10:54.799 --> 00:10:56.960 in public eye on the West Coast in the same city that you're playing in. 153 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:01.679 You could have traded him to the or the Mets or somebody else in 154 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:05.799 the National League. And yet you let him go. And now he's playing 155 00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:09.960 for the Dodgers, which you're gonna have to see and hear every single night. 156 00:11:11.480 --> 00:11:15.559 You're gonna see o Tani everywhere. It's not out of side, out 157 00:11:15.600 --> 00:11:16.799 of mind. If he was playing on the East Coast or in Toronto. 158 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:22.639 It is right up the road and the way the Dodgers market, You're gonna 159 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:26.919 feel it and see it every single day. That's why I told you and 160 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:31.000 Kevin when we were talking about what the Angels trade them, and no matter 161 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:35.039 what the package was, if the Dodgers were to offer the best package, 162 00:11:35.399 --> 00:11:39.720 would they send them here on would absolutely not no way there is. This 163 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:43.519 is the worst case scenario for Ardi Moreno, okay, no, this is 164 00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:48.480 the worst case scenario because at the very least he could have Ryan Peppio and 165 00:11:48.519 --> 00:11:52.320 Gavin lux Or had gotten something. This is the worst case scenario. He 166 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:56.480 walked away and you literally have nothing, Which is why Rodney and I said, 167 00:11:56.840 --> 00:11:58.279 if you're gonna trade them, and the Dodgers have the best package, 168 00:11:58.879 --> 00:12:01.759 just trade them to the Dodgers, because you don't want to haul you at 169 00:12:03.320 --> 00:12:07.919 get everything you can, go get, go, just raid the Dodgers covered. 170 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:11.399 And he didn't do it, even though the Dodgers offered you a bag 171 00:12:11.399 --> 00:12:18.039 of baseball that's more than you have. Now take it. So anyway, 172 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:20.879 now the Dodgers have this money because o Town, he's taking two million dollars, 173 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:26.399 the question becomes, and we know by the way that they are not 174 00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:30.120 afraid to spend, but how crazy do you go here? You know, 175 00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:33.879 how nuts do you go? Being over the competitive balanced tax two hundred and 176 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:39.399 fifty million to three hundred million for Yamamoto. Do you see them just going 177 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:41.720 for it now? All bets are off. I mean, they're already going 178 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:46.879 to be the most hated team in baseball. They are the Old Yankees, 179 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:52.039 the most despised team in baseball by far. Do you just go for it? 180 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:56.679 Now? What the hell for Yamamoto to fifty this guy another one hundred 181 00:12:56.679 --> 00:13:00.679 and fifty. Let's just go for it. Let's just be out of control. 182 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:05.679 Crazy? Are they capable of? Is it possible to structure yamamotos deal 183 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:09.559 similar to Otani's deal? But think about this. Mookie Bets and Freddie Freeman 184 00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:16.360 have deferred money. Yeah, maybe, now not that much. Maybe they've 185 00:13:16.399 --> 00:13:20.279 been doing the exact same thing with their money. Yeah right, Maybe they've 186 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:24.600 been doing the identical thing with their money, making money on their money. 187 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:31.960 Yeah. Yeah. And if you're a Mookie and Freddy or Tan, you 188 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:35.039 don't care. You cann get your money. You're getting your money regardless you 189 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:41.840 want. Yeah, and Otani's sake, I mean, he'll end up making 190 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:46.039 more money off the field than he will on the field. And so that 191 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:50.080 salary from the Dodgers he doesn't need that, I know. But you know, 192 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:54.279 if you can't survive on seventy million dollars a year, then what are 193 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:58.039 you doing? But he's gonna make He's gonna make so much more that the 194 00:13:58.120 --> 00:14:03.720 Dodgers' salary. I don't need that at all because I'm getting fifty to one 195 00:14:03.759 --> 00:14:09.759 hundred million dollars from endorsements. You think you have a motive, brilliant, 196 00:14:09.879 --> 00:14:13.919 You think you have Momoto is a diva? See I don't. I don't 197 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:18.879 know. All we're hearing his reports and yes there were photos of him getting 198 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:24.200 on a plane and off a plane or something like that. I don't know. 199 00:14:24.600 --> 00:14:26.440 I don't know if he's a diva or not. I don't know. 200 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:31.039 I don't know that that much about him or that enough enough about him. 201 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:39.720 But I do I can understand a young guy that is this is his moment 202 00:14:39.919 --> 00:14:48.480 and possibly looking at this as do I want my moment because everybody's after me 203 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:52.639 and I'm going to get a huge payday. Do I want my moment to 204 00:14:52.639 --> 00:15:01.519 be overshadowed by Otani? Or do I roll with Otani and let's share in 205 00:15:01.559 --> 00:15:07.919 it and win multiple titles and we all get to share in the glory. 206 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:11.519 See I would do the latter. Yes, it's me. I'm I'm rolling 207 00:15:11.600 --> 00:15:15.240 with the best team with the best players, and we're all when we win, 208 00:15:15.399 --> 00:15:18.519 we all win, as opposed to being the lone fish in the market 209 00:15:18.519 --> 00:15:22.120 where yeah, I'm the big, big gun. Yeah, people talking about 210 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:28.480 me, but we're not winning titles. That's how I look at it. 211 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:33.399 Yeah, that's And there were reports that he wants to be he wants to 212 00:15:33.440 --> 00:15:35.960 be the guy, he wants to be the focal point. He wants to 213 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:39.039 be he doesn't want to be in otani shadows. And I don't know how 214 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:43.279 true that is, it's just reports, but I would not go that route. 215 00:15:43.279 --> 00:15:46.399 I'd go with the winners. I would go with the team that is 216 00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:50.559 the best team. And I would look at it like whatever old Tani doesn't 217 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:52.759 get, I'm gonna get, I'm gonna get. You know what I'm saying. 218 00:15:54.399 --> 00:15:56.600 It's like it's like people when they go out used to go out with 219 00:15:56.639 --> 00:15:58.120 you, fred Oh, you know you get all the girls and then the 220 00:15:58.159 --> 00:16:00.840 guys that are hanging out, would you woul get the leftovers? That was 221 00:16:00.919 --> 00:16:03.559 never the case, but thank you for pointing, thank you for trying that, 222 00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:10.440 and never ever ever was the case. But you know, I'm thinking 223 00:16:10.480 --> 00:16:15.799 about it, you know, using the Yama Moto philosophy. If it's true, 224 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:19.960 I guess Mookie Bets is living in the shadow of Otani. I guess 225 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:25.799 Freddie Freeman is living in the shadow of Otani. If Yama Moto's philosophy is 226 00:16:25.879 --> 00:16:29.519 correct, they should both ask to be traded, because why would they want 227 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:32.799 to be in the shadow of Otani? Will Smith wouldn't want to be in 228 00:16:32.840 --> 00:16:37.120 the shadow of Otani? Would they would? He? Of course not. 229 00:16:37.799 --> 00:16:41.320 If it Yama Moto's approach is accurate, and I don't live in the shadow, 230 00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:47.639 well, everybody's living in his shadow. Yeah, so everybody should want 231 00:16:47.679 --> 00:16:51.639 to be traded or no, I'm sorry, maybe everybody else wants to win. 232 00:16:52.600 --> 00:16:57.240 Maybe everybody else wants to be the best and have every opportunity presented to 233 00:16:57.279 --> 00:17:02.200 them. If he doesn't pay the Dodgers and whatever he does, he does 234 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:06.039 and acknowledging he's twenty five, so we kind of looks at things differently. 235 00:17:06.079 --> 00:17:08.640 You know, he's social media and that kind of stuff. If he doesn't 236 00:17:08.680 --> 00:17:15.039 pick the Dodgers, good luck, be a success. But if you don't 237 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:18.640 win, if you don't win, and by the way, that's going to 238 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:22.599 mean something to you, Maybe not now, but it will. If you 239 00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:26.640 don't win and you want to blame somebody, go look in the mirror, 240 00:17:27.039 --> 00:17:32.279 because the only person to blame is you. That's how I look at it. 241 00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:34.160 Absolutely. You want to sit there, you go sit there with the 242 00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:40.359 Mets gone at ten. After ten years, you made the playoffs once twice, 243 00:17:40.400 --> 00:17:45.279 maybe no titles. Okay, you got your three hundred million dollars. 244 00:17:47.519 --> 00:17:52.119 But after the year five, nobody's talking about you anymore. You're three. 245 00:17:52.240 --> 00:17:55.920 Yes, I'm going to say, yeah, I think you're being generous. 246 00:17:56.160 --> 00:17:59.960 Yeah I am. I think you're being a little generous. Yeah, okay, 247 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:03.920 after year two, you know what it is, man, we wasted 248 00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:07.200 money on you. Yeah, after year two, we should have never done 249 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:11.000 that. As Xander Bogart's don in San Diego, well, we shouldn't have 250 00:18:11.039 --> 00:18:15.880 done that one. I promise you they're gonna be saying that, Yeah, 251 00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:18.759 man, that was a bad call. That's what you're gonna be a bad 252 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:23.200 call. But you got to do it. But you got your money yet, 253 00:18:23.240 --> 00:18:26.440 your money, and you're and by the way, where's that limelight though? 254 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:30.799 Where's that limelight? Well? The only shadow that shine, the only 255 00:18:30.839 --> 00:18:33.839 shadow you cast is your own. And the problem is nobody wants to be 256 00:18:33.920 --> 00:18:41.519 in that one because it's not successful. That's why it'll be interesting to see 257 00:18:41.559 --> 00:18:45.880 how it plays out. Let's get David vasse On here in the next segment, 258 00:18:45.160 --> 00:18:49.319 get his take on what's happening. Oh, he may have some insight 259 00:18:51.079 --> 00:18:55.400 into the uh the glass now deal. All right, so we'll talk to 260 00:18:55.480 --> 00:18:57.480 him about that. Bottom of the hour, we'll play Know your Squad. 261 00:18:57.880 --> 00:19:00.519 If you wouldn't know your squad, we got the four pack of tickets to 262 00:19:00.559 --> 00:19:03.680 the Winterfest oc If you don't one to know your squad, We're going to 263 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:11.759 open it up to everybody. Ah, bring it, come on, come 264 00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:21.480 on, yeah, open slea. Come on, Freddy, let's go with 265 00:19:21.799 --> 00:19:26.640 day Wednesday before Christmas. Roddy p fred Rogan coming at you. Hope you 266 00:19:26.680 --> 00:19:30.720 haven't a wonderful one to wonderful holiday season? So far only gets better. 267 00:19:32.519 --> 00:19:37.720 All right, let's bring on David Veasse and uh Dave, Happy early Christmas 268 00:19:37.720 --> 00:19:41.079 to you. You're still working every day? Hey, it's all good. 269 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:45.119 If this is work, Uh, don't wake me up, because it's really 270 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:49.960 fun and happy to be on with the Santa Claus of the Rogan and Rodney 271 00:19:49.960 --> 00:19:53.160 Show, Rodney Pete and the Grinch of the Rogan. And I don't know 272 00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:56.680 why I required this, Moniker, I have no idea why. Oh you 273 00:19:56.720 --> 00:20:02.680 don't know why into this? Come on, No You're not the first person 274 00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:04.920 to mention it. You're not, Oh your squad, You're on Team Grinch. 275 00:20:06.599 --> 00:20:11.880 You've earned it ready, you earned it all right, Dave. I 276 00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:14.759 we know you have the podcast tonight. I want to get this because Kevin 277 00:20:14.920 --> 00:20:18.319 mentioned something to me this morning, and I'm not going to say too much, 278 00:20:18.759 --> 00:20:22.920 but you have some information more than you shared about the Brad Paisley party 279 00:20:22.960 --> 00:20:27.319 and how Tyler Glassnow actually got to the Dodgers, don't you. Yeah, 280 00:20:27.319 --> 00:20:30.960 I was there obviously, we did Dodger talk from there. Andrew Friedman, 281 00:20:32.079 --> 00:20:37.359 the Dodgers and his staff were there. Dave Roberts was there, and then 282 00:20:37.319 --> 00:20:45.519 Eric Neander and a couple of his top lieutenants showed up and we made an 283 00:20:45.559 --> 00:20:48.920 agreement all of us that what happens on the Paisley Farm stays on the Paisley 284 00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:55.079 farm. But Eric Neander, the raised president of Baseball Operations, has been 285 00:20:55.160 --> 00:21:00.240 quoted in MLB dot Com and the Tampa Bay Time that Brad really want it 286 00:21:00.319 --> 00:21:03.599 glass Now, And on the podcast, I share a little bit of the 287 00:21:03.640 --> 00:21:08.759 behind the scenes on how Brad Paisley was playing hardball with the Rays for Tyler 288 00:21:08.799 --> 00:21:11.599 glass Now. That is so cool that you were there, and you got 289 00:21:11.599 --> 00:21:18.440 to see that. It's one of the ultimate highlights of my of my life, 290 00:21:18.519 --> 00:21:22.960 of my career. To be able to be privy to two different teams, 291 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:26.440 two of the best executives in baseball, Eric Neander and Andrew Freeman being 292 00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:30.640 in the same room and in a relaxed setting. It was one of the 293 00:21:30.680 --> 00:21:37.160 highlights for sure. And does Dave, what doesn't that speak to just doing 294 00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:40.319 things the right way and not burning bridges? I mean, I would assume 295 00:21:40.400 --> 00:21:48.839 that Andrew's relationship with the Raised organization doesn't hurt the situation and the test partners, 296 00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:52.920 Rodney, they they're like minded. That's why the Rays were all in 297 00:21:53.079 --> 00:21:57.559 with Ryan Pepio and Johnny de Luca. And that's why the Dodgers were a 298 00:21:57.640 --> 00:22:03.920 perfect fit because they're so like minded. Yeah, okay, well yeah, 299 00:22:04.279 --> 00:22:08.039 and you know because Andrew Friedman basically started the philosophy there, those guys carried 300 00:22:08.079 --> 00:22:12.880 it on. And yeah, they oftentimes are very good trade partners. All 301 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:15.920 right, where are we now? What do you hear about Yamamoto? Dave? 302 00:22:18.519 --> 00:22:22.359 Well, now, Bob Clappish from Newsday is reporting that Yamamoto will not 303 00:22:22.599 --> 00:22:27.359 make his decision until after Christmas. We were told that it was going to 304 00:22:27.440 --> 00:22:32.160 be this week, and Yamamoto, I'm not sure if you guys caught this. 305 00:22:32.319 --> 00:22:36.799 Over the weekend, dined at Steve Cohen's home in New York, and 306 00:22:37.279 --> 00:22:41.039 Cohen went to Japan to meet with Yamamoto as well. And Yamamoto has been 307 00:22:41.160 --> 00:22:47.240 much more out there regarding the courtship of other teams of his free agency and 308 00:22:47.319 --> 00:22:52.160 services, and posted a photo of him and his agent Joe Wolf on his 309 00:22:52.279 --> 00:22:56.279 Instagram flying back from New York. Where they were going I would assume the 310 00:22:56.319 --> 00:22:59.799 West Coast, So right now, it's between the Mets, the Yankees, 311 00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:03.279 and the Dodgers. He did not meet with the Red Sox while he was 312 00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:08.839 on the East Coast, so everything's pointing to one of the two New York 313 00:23:08.880 --> 00:23:15.000 teams or the Dodgers. Dave the report out there that he doesn't want to 314 00:23:15.039 --> 00:23:19.480 share the limelight with Otani, can you tell us about that? How accurate 315 00:23:19.640 --> 00:23:25.240 is that that he wants to be in his own I guess fear when it 316 00:23:25.279 --> 00:23:29.799 comes to Japanese players. Yeah, well, then that would eliminate the Mets 317 00:23:29.920 --> 00:23:33.119 because Codei Senga had a breakout rookie year with the Mets last year, so 318 00:23:33.279 --> 00:23:37.000 he would be in the same rotation with Senga as well if that were to 319 00:23:37.079 --> 00:23:41.039 be true. I guess we won't know until he signed somewhere. But look, 320 00:23:42.759 --> 00:23:49.039 Yamamoto was teammates with Otani and the World Baseball Classic, and O'tani was 321 00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:55.359 in the meeting to ease whatever concerns he had, So I don't know how 322 00:23:55.440 --> 00:24:00.519 much truth that is, especially since Otani doesn't want the spotlight, so there's 323 00:24:00.599 --> 00:24:04.240 no conflict of interest there, all right, Dave, Things still moving pretty 324 00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:08.200 slowly, though. I guess we wait for Yamamoto to find out about Blake 325 00:24:08.359 --> 00:24:14.079 Snell. And after Otani is done and off the board, and Yamamoto has 326 00:24:14.119 --> 00:24:17.119 done and off the board, then do you think we'll see a flurry of 327 00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:19.759 action. It feels that way, Fred, the way it was told to 328 00:24:19.839 --> 00:24:25.039 me from the player's side and some of the major league executives I've spoken to. 329 00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:30.119 Otani taking as long as he did to make his decision kind of pushed 330 00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:34.599 everything back a month. So the players that you see in January signing would 331 00:24:34.599 --> 00:24:40.279 have signed in December if it was done a little bit sooner. So just 332 00:24:40.799 --> 00:24:45.519 put that in perspective and context that whatever you're seeing happening now between now and 333 00:24:45.599 --> 00:24:51.640 the end of January, it's been pushed back a month. And I think 334 00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:56.799 once Cody Bellinger signs, that also will open up the position player market as 335 00:24:56.880 --> 00:25:00.640 well. And what does Cody end up, in your opinion, back with 336 00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:03.759 the Cubs. It's a huge market for him, Kay, I feel like 337 00:25:03.839 --> 00:25:08.359 Cody might be in Canada. I feel like the Blue Jays are really making 338 00:25:08.400 --> 00:25:15.680 the biggest push for Bellinger after losing out on Shoheyo Tommy and obviously in that 339 00:25:15.799 --> 00:25:19.480 holding pattern the Yankees that were able to pull off the trade for Juan Soto, 340 00:25:21.079 --> 00:25:25.880 and the blue Jays need offense and Bellinger is probably the guy they need. 341 00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:30.680 I wouldn't rule out by the way Bellinger and Justin Turner being teammates again 342 00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:34.880 in Toronto, Dave, nobody's really talking about Margo who came over in the 343 00:25:34.920 --> 00:25:37.480 glass Now deal. I think he can play a little bit. I don't 344 00:25:37.480 --> 00:25:41.920 think that's a bad pickup, is it, especially when the Rays are ticking 345 00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:48.559 in four million dollars to offset some of the salary. Look, Manuel Marco 346 00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:51.599 is a good role player and that's what he's going to be for the Dodgers. 347 00:25:51.680 --> 00:25:55.440 He's a really good defensive player. And center and right field. He's 348 00:25:55.519 --> 00:25:59.839 done really well against left He's a he's done well against the lefties. He's 349 00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:03.160 lifetime two to eighty hitter against leftist. So in the role the Dodgers are 350 00:26:03.240 --> 00:26:08.279 going to have for him, it will be a fit not to mention the 351 00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:14.279 Dodgers wanting to play Mookie Betts Moret's second base. That means Margo and Jason 352 00:26:14.359 --> 00:26:18.880 Hayward will split a lot of time in right field. Dave, what's been 353 00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:25.599 the reaction around baseball with other players and clubs about the Otani and Dodgers signing. 354 00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:30.759 It feels like there's a lot of jealousy out there, Rodney. You 355 00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:34.440 know, it feels like teams are kind of want to be upset about it, 356 00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:38.440 but can't be upset about it because it was well within the rules. 357 00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:45.480 And Otani is one of the most unique players we've ever seen, not only 358 00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:48.240 on the field but off the field. When they talk about changing the rules, 359 00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:52.039 who are you going to change the rules for. There's no other player 360 00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:57.880 in Major League Baseball that makes fifty million dollars in marketing off the field. 361 00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:03.880 So this is when they call him a unicorn. He's a unicorn in every 362 00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:07.720 sense of the word Dave. All right, so Otani's the d When you 363 00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:14.160 look at the Dodger roster now in the lineup, the everyday player position set, 364 00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:18.400 what else are we trying to figure out? Yeah, there's still a 365 00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:22.519 lot of work to be done. Fred I have questions at shortstop. Are 366 00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:26.079 the Dodgers going to roll out Miguel Rojas on an everyday basis again with a 367 00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:32.039 five hundred ops. Is Gavin Lux going to be ready to be the full 368 00:27:32.119 --> 00:27:36.799 time shortstop day one? I don't believe. So. I had a season 369 00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:41.759 ticket holder DM me on Instagram and as they were picking out their seats they 370 00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:45.440 saw Gavin Lux taking batting practice at Dodger Stadium. So that's a good sign. 371 00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:51.799 So that's a question shortstop. And they still have work to do with 372 00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:56.960 their starting pitching rotation. And also another factor is if they're not able to 373 00:27:56.079 --> 00:28:00.720 land the starter that they want, are they going to pivot and go all 374 00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:06.119 in with Josh had to shorten the game? Could they pursue Willio Damas without 375 00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:12.200 pursuing Carbon Burns. It feels like the Brewers are holding on to both to 376 00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:18.200 see where this goes in the season because it's a very winnable Division. So 377 00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:23.480 it feels like the Brewers are going to keep both those guys until a either 378 00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:30.240 they're overwhelmed with offer before spring training or b to see whether or not they're 379 00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:33.920 in contention in a very weak and el central. Okay, so, for 380 00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:37.440 argument's sake, there's no burns. They lose out on Yamamoto, they don't 381 00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:41.599 pursue Snell. What other pitcher could they be taking a run at. Do 382 00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:45.680 we get back to Dylan Sees? Yeah, Dylan Sees could be back in 383 00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:51.640 play. But if you trade for Seas, you're trading some of your depth 384 00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:55.720 as far as your young pitching goes. I'm sure the White Socks are going 385 00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:59.480 to want some of the same names that we saw pitch at the major league 386 00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:04.559 level at year, in addition to other lower level players. And the other 387 00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:08.880 part of this is maybe the Dodgers just shore up the back end of their 388 00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:15.839 rotation with a Lucas Giolito type. The Dodgers have had conversations with him. 389 00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:21.440 Seems like Geolito's in high demand, but it seems like a great fit for 390 00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:23.960 Giolito to come home and pitch for the Dodgers. All right, Dave, 391 00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:27.880 we know you're gonna have the story about the behind the scenes at Brad Paisley's 392 00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:30.680 ranch. What else do you have on the podcast tonight? Well, I'm 393 00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:34.400 part of the Tyler Glass Noow car wash, so Glass now will join us 394 00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:40.240 on the podcast this week as well on Dodger Talk. Nice outstandings. All 395 00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:42.319 right, Dave, if we don't talk to you, Merry Christmas, Happy 396 00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:45.839 New Year to you and your family. Be safe. Thank you guys. 397 00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:49.599 And by the way, on this podcast a JD. Martinez tribute A one 398 00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:55.839 and done great twenty twenty three. Still emotionally attached to him. All right, 399 00:29:56.119 --> 00:29:59.319 take care Dan, I like you, Fred, I have emotions. 400 00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:03.559 I have a heart, Dave. I have emotions and a heart. I 401 00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:06.960 cry when I watch cartoons. Okay, real quick, though, where does 402 00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:10.759 Dadie end up? Dave? You think if I had to predict, it 403 00:30:10.839 --> 00:30:15.960 might be back in Arizona. Their GM has intimated their all in for an 404 00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:22.720 exclusive DH to bolster their offense, and JD. Martinez and Justin Turner would 405 00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:26.400 be the two best available right now, all right, we'll talk to you, 406 00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:30.799 Dave. Okay, guys, we have a four pack of tickets to 407 00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:36.200 WINTERFESTOC Big four pack. You'll have a chance to win them, but you 408 00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:38.640 have to come on here and today you have to win Know your Squad, 409 00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:42.039 and the squad is the Lakers eight six six ninety seven two five seventy. 410 00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:45.839 If you win Know your Squad, you get the four pack of tickets. 411 00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:48.480 If you don't win, Know your Squad, we will open the tickets up 412 00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:52.160 to everybody and next hour we are giving away a Burke Williams gift card. 413 00:30:52.240 --> 00:31:00.599 So stay with us. Let's do it. Today's Afternoon Delight is Open Scars 414 00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:06.960 by Young m A. After keeping a fairly low profile over the past few 415 00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:10.880 years, a thirty one year old MC dropped this single late last week this 416 00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:17.319 month after her serious healthcare led to her hospitalization and inspired her commitment to sobriety. 417 00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:22.400 On the track, he may gets vulnerable about past friends leaving her in 418 00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:27.319 the storm while reflecting on her new relationship with God. She also laments letting 419 00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:32.480 down her fans for the past three years, but ends the song saying that 420 00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:45.720 she has found peace again. Today's Afternoon Delight is Open Scars by Young all 421 00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:51.200 Right. Kevin and Northridge, are you there, I'm here, Fred all 422 00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:52.359 Right. Here's the deal. We'll play Know your Squad. If you wouldn't 423 00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:56.720 know your squad today a four pack of tickets to the winterfestos C and know 424 00:31:56.839 --> 00:32:00.680 your squad. We give you a question and five choices. Answer. Before 425 00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:02.039 you get all five choices, you're locked out. You get a challenge. 426 00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:06.319 Use your challenge. It's upheld. You retain your challenge. Us your challenge. 427 00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:08.400 It's denied. You're locked out of the next question. We've got a 428 00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:13.000 prize at stake, no hints. If you don't get it, we open 429 00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:16.920 it up for everybody. You good, got all right? Ronnie running Hello, 430 00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:22.359 rogan In Rodney, I'm ready to play. Come get some question. 431 00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:25.359 Let's do it. Let's go, baby, let's go, lelouse, make 432 00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:29.440 it good, make it good, Make me work today, make me work, 433 00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:32.400 all right, Brad, Let's go know your lakers. Which of these 434 00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:37.680 players holds the record for highest three point field goal percentage in a single season 435 00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:42.640 at forty four? Anthony Parker, Vladimir rod Monovic, Steve Blake, Sasha 436 00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:51.240 Vuya chi or Sasha Baron Collin, Steve Blake, Rodney, rod mona shutting 437 00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:53.440 man of it. Jumped in. Light it up? Fred? You could 438 00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:59.240 light it up? Oh he could, wasn't he? The guy that was 439 00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:02.359 like, yes, slipped, he slipped on a patch of ice, That's 440 00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:07.519 what he said. But he really went, yeah, snowboarding or whatever. 441 00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:10.319 He said, Yeah, yeah, he was actually snowboarding. He said. 442 00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:14.119 He was walking down the street with his hands in his pockets and he slipped 443 00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:15.559 and fell and that's how he got hurt. Slipped on a patch ice. 444 00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:21.440 Hmm. Okay, he stepped in slipped on a banana peel. That's what 445 00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:24.559 he said, essentially, and all right. Lakers lost to the Pistons in 446 00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:29.240 five games in the two thousand and four NBA Finals. Shaq and Kobe led 447 00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:31.200 the Lakers and scoring with an average of twenty six and twenty two points a 448 00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:35.640 game. Who was a Lakers third leading scorer in that series with an average 449 00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:39.160 of six points a game, Karl Malone, Gary Payton, Derek Fisher, 450 00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:47.920 Devin George or Wally George, Dereker, Derek Fisher. There you go, 451 00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:52.880 There you go, Kevin, you were there. That was close. That 452 00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:55.160 was close. Close. I thought I had that one. Uh yeah, 453 00:33:57.039 --> 00:34:00.160 alright close. Here's some advice you want. Wait a minute, you can 454 00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:05.359 do whatever you want. I would just suggest you not do that, but 455 00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:10.760 you certainly can if you'd like it. Was close. Now we were both 456 00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:15.039 there. Okay, whatever you want to do, buddy, it's on you. 457 00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:19.199 It's on you. Look, you're playing. Let's let's let's let's let's 458 00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:24.559 check it up. Let's check it up. Fred. Okay, if as 459 00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:30.559 you I get ready to set out the next question, I'm telling you, 460 00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:36.039 man, you should have listened to me. Here we go. Carl Malone, 461 00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:44.960 Gary Payton, Derek Fisher, Devin George or Wally George, Dereker Kevin, 462 00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:46.800 did I guess I got that one out? Yeah? Why didn't you 463 00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:52.360 trust me? Oh? Okay, all right, so you're out for this 464 00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:57.159 one who holds a single season record for most seals per game with an average 465 00:34:57.159 --> 00:35:00.920 of three point four. Kobe Bryant, Magic Johnson, Norm Nixon, Eddie 466 00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:08.760 Jones or Rashida Jones. No, Magic Johnson, Ronnie now Here. Here's 467 00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:12.960 the deal, Kevin. You're back in and because Ronnie got that, you 468 00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:16.679 can still win. So you're still in it now. Okay, okay, 469 00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:21.280 thanks Fred, Okay, here we go. I'll take your advice next time. 470 00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:27.760 Well, next time a challenge. No, you know what, I'm 471 00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:30.599 always rooting for the contestants. You should know that I always root for you. 472 00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:37.159 Guys to win, but I can't get well. Yeah, I will 473 00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:39.320 cheat, but I mean, but today I can't give you anything. You 474 00:35:39.480 --> 00:35:45.000 just admit it. What he's never admitted that before. You just admitted it's 475 00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:47.119 on tape. I've got it on tape forever. Fred. All right, 476 00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:52.440 Ronnie, you just lost your point away. You can take all of them 477 00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:54.400 away. You can take all of them away as long as I've got that 478 00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:58.960 piece of gold on tape. There's a gift in Ballfred. You can't take 479 00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:01.400 any points. You can't cheat. You can't do anything that's true cheat. 480 00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:07.000 Okay, that's it. You're out. N I should I should know better 481 00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:12.000 than the challenge. Rodney. There you go, There you go, baby, 482 00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:16.920 I know I won. Yeah, it's all right, he's the champ. 483 00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:22.320 Damn right, Rodney, you're the champ. Let's go. I like 484 00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:27.760 your faith in me. What are you laughing about, Ronnie? Nothing, 485 00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:30.920 it's it's I can't wait to see who wins this battle royale between Kevin and 486 00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:38.800 Rodney. All Right, let's go, let's go. I'm not cheating. 487 00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:45.159 He's thinking about it though. I swear to God. I swear to God. 488 00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:50.360 Ronnie. All right, easy, Fred, Christmas present for me jeez, 489 00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:53.440 fred mister Grinch over there, he's turning green as we speak. Up 490 00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:59.599 on your skin, Freddy, Come on, Freddy, Freddy baby, come 491 00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:01.760 on, come on, fred mister Armadillo's skin. Let's go. Don't you 492 00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:08.880 want to call me by my nickname, Froggy Norinch? Yeah, it is 493 00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:15.480 the Gridge, It is the three feet. They're both they're both green. 494 00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:22.079 Thank you, Grinch. Rogin, you know what Kevin's trying. I wish 495 00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:24.280 I could just give him the prize, but I can't. All right, 496 00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:28.880 here we go. The Lakers missed the playoffs in two thousand and five after 497 00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:31.440 Shaq was traded to Miami. Kobe Bryant, the leading score that season, 498 00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:37.159 averaging twenty seven, who was their second leading scorer that year. Lamar wrote 499 00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:42.880 them, Chuckie Atkins, Chris mem Karan Butler or Gerard Butler. Kevin is 500 00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:51.440 alive. Kevin is alive. Oh thank you? Maybe I wanna, maybe 501 00:37:51.639 --> 00:38:00.400 I wanna chealle come, Rodny challenged me? Did I challenge you? You 502 00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:04.920 think I should? What do you think? Fred? Well, you have 503 00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:08.400 to make your own choice. Oh you know what, I don't. I 504 00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:13.800 don't know if I would challenge. I don't know if I Okay, I 505 00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:15.480 won't challenge. Yeah, I don't think I would. All right, here's 506 00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:20.519 the next one. Magic Johnson the Lakers' career later and assists with ten one 507 00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:23.039 and forty one, who was second in team history, and assists with six 508 00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:27.960 thy three hundred and six. Norm Nixon, Kobe Bryant, Jerry West, 509 00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:30.639 Gail Goodrich or b F. Goodrich, Nixon, Jerry West, No, 510 00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:40.039 Gail Getrich, no Kobe Bright Yep. All right, so that means two 511 00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:44.920 things. First, running, daddy one? What? Yes, daddy running? 512 00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:46.840 Why aren't you playing because you didn't want me to play anymore? Fred 513 00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:50.960 don't you remember what you said? You said I was out, so I'm 514 00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:52.320 out. No, I didn't say you were out. I never said you 515 00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:55.840 were out. You removed yourself from the game, Kevin, let's review the 516 00:38:55.880 --> 00:39:00.440 tape. No, we're not reviewing the tape to recollect. You did say 517 00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:04.239 he was out, though fast He did say that he was the words running, 518 00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:06.920 You're out? So what does that mean? Freddy? Let's bipolar? 519 00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:09.920 That's what he means. Explained what out meant? Out of bounds, out 520 00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:15.239 of line. I'm done, fred I'm done until next year. Okay, 521 00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:19.519 Well, anyway you look uh, Rodney, congratulations, But Kevin, that's 522 00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:25.519 it. You didn't win Winterfest. Yeah, yeah, all right. Oh 523 00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:29.039 man, I'm just trying, just trying to make a living, keV. 524 00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:35.039 That's all, trying to win the prize. All right, Well listen, 525 00:39:36.039 --> 00:39:37.440 right, okay, right on, buddy, Kevin, thanks for playing. 526 00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:40.559 We're gonna open the phone lines coming up next hour. We have two prizes 527 00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:45.400 to give away. You and call back and try again. Okay, thanks 528 00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:51.519 Fred, Thanks Rodney, a V. All right, The question is do 529 00:39:51.639 --> 00:39:52.559 they have the money, and if they have the money, where they spend 530 00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:54.760 the money. We'll talk about that next