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Ktr H Garden Line does not necessarily
endorse any of the products or services advertised

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on this program. Welcome to ktr
H Garden Line with Skip richter Son.

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Just watch him as so many Well, good Saturday morning, on a great

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day for guarding. You're listening to
garden Line and I'm your host, Skip

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richter our phone number. Please write
this down. You never know when you

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might need to call seven one three
two one two five eight seven four.

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And why you got the pen and
paper out, keep it handy because who

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knows, we'll probably give you some
information you'll want to write down over the

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course of the morning. Well,
I tell you we have that wonderful weather

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or spring. If those of you
who haven't lived in Houston area or anywhere

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in Texas actually through through a brutal
summer season know how much we appreciate mild

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weather conditions. And boy, is
that ever what we're enjoying right now.

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We've got some good sunshine this weekend. Good day to be out for gardening.

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Course, every day is a good
day. It's a good day to

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go out and visit garden centers while
we're out and about too. I was,

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it's what I do it's almost a
hobby. I just love to get

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around. And I tell you,
if you've if you've not lived in other

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areas, you are fortunate to live
in an area that has so many great

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garden centers. I just sometimes I
think probably what we need to do is

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get a hold of the Chamber of
Commerce and we need to have a garden

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centered tourism promo for the Greater Houston
area. In other words, someone would

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come over here, get anice hotel, enjoy the incredible number of restaurants that

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rate, restaurants of all kinds that
Houston has. And you know, each

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day you put two or three,
Can you get to three in a day?

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I don't know, not if you
hang out and enjoy all they have

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to offer. But anyway, you
get the idea. We can kind of

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keep somebody busy for certainly a whole
weekend just enjoying the wonderful garden centers in

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the Greater Houston area. It's time
to be out and fertilizing our lawns.

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And I'm sure we'll talk about that
a lot today with callers and everything.

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But your turf grass is best suited
our best. It performs best when you

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have the right nutrients in the right
amount, the right ratios that are there

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in the soil. Because the soil
is the bank account. I'm a broken

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record about it. All begins in
the soil. Everything happens in the soil.

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Success for gardening happens in the soil. You'll hear these things. You

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hear me say, spend money on
the brown stuff before you spend money on

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the green stuff, meaning get the
soil right before you put a plant in

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it. And when it comes to
a lawn, this same is true.

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Now you don't have an existing lawn
that you're going out there in rototelling,

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But if you have compaction, you're
aerating and compost top dressing your soil,

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you're fertilizing through the course of the
seasons. And now is the time to

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get down fertilizer for that long term, carrying you through the summer period.

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And that's where we want something that's
gonna gradually feed our lawn over time.

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Because Saint Augustine, unlike us,
is perfectly happy in the big middle of

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a Houston summer, being outside and
in the sun, and it's able to

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grow very fast in those conditions,
a good warmth, and nobody gets super

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super hot. That's not great.
But during or let's say temperatures we would

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consider a little bit unpleasant to be
outside. It's still happy as long as

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it has sole moisture, which I'll
tell you it rains a lot here.

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And so with a little irrigation from
us, and I mean a little,

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not a lot, we can keep
Saint Augustine happy all the time. But

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when you over fertilize it with nitrogen, you get a growth response. And

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that growth response is it looks like
this number one. You get a lot

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of top growth at the expense of
root growth. I saw a picture a

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slide back in the day of thirty
five millimeter slides. I remember the first

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time I ever saw this image.
But it was three crocks of nutrient solution

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and they had a little lid on
each one, and into the lid was

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planted a turf grass. And so
if you set the lid down, you

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know, it was like the turf
grass was growing out of the croc.

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But when you picked it up,
you could see the whole root system hanging

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down. And there were three there
was no fertilizer moderate and then over fertilizing

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the nitrogen, and the one with
excessive nitrogen. I had lots of top

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growth, meaning you get to mow
a lot, meaning certain diseases and insects

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are especially fond of your lawn because
you've turned it into a life more succulent

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meal for them. And the other
thing was underneath the lid. The root

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system was very limited, and you
would think, well, if nitrogen makes

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grass grow, why why do we
have such a limited root system. Well,

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it makes the top grow at the
expense of the root system when you

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overdo it, And so I know
that it's our human mindset. It seems

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that if a teaspoon's good, a
tablespoon's better, and that is just almost

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never never the case. So what
you want to do is you want to

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gradually fertilize through the summer, and
that way you get what going back to

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that image I described the middle croc
where there's decent top growth and good color,

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and there's decent root growth as well. Because when you have an extensive

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system, you have a drought resilient
turf grass. When you have an extensive

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root system, a little bit of
grub chewing here and there is really of

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no significance. When you have an
extensive root system, the resiliency of that

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lawn and being able to survive and
thrive is just better. So it's kind

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of like us, you know,
I mean eating not eating is not a

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long term plan. Eating way too
much is not a good long term plan,

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right, But a modern amount of
healthy food that's what we're aiming for.

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And so I just want to point
out that if I'll talk about this

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more in a moment, because I'm
gonna talk about lawn fertilizing quite a bit

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today, but I just want to
point out that when we give recommendations on

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how much to apply and what to
apply, it's for a reason. That

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is for a reason. Now when
I talk about excessive nitrogen, don't think

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that that means if the nitrogen number
and the bag is too high. It's

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how much you put down that matters. So you put down a rate of

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fertilizer so that whether whatever the numbers
on the bag, you get the same

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amount of nitrogen in the soil.
That that's what we kind of aim for.

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And I'll explain that more as we
come back here from break in just

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a moment. Lets just know that, uh, if you haven't fertilized your

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line yet, it's time to get
out there and do it. And the

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second thing is to return those clippings. And we've talked about that before.

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But you're listening to garden Line.
I'm your host, Skip Richter, and

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the number seven one three, two
and two fifty eight seventy four. Everybody

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had well, good Saturday morning.
You are listening to garden Line. I

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am your host, Skip Ripter,
and this is a good day for gardening,

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as they all are. We were
talking before break, by the way,

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our phone number seven one three two
one two fifty eight seventy four.

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Seven one three two one two fifty
eight seventy four. We were talking before

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break about lun fertilizing and I'm going
to continue on that here for a little

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bit if I can just do a
bit of a soapbox. It's important to

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have the nutrients you need down in
the right amounts. Now, the key

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to how much we apply of a
product is based on the amount of nitrogen

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in it. That is kind of
what we use as our guide. And

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the reason we say that is,
in general, we look for a fertilizer

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that's going to have a ratio of
nutrients where the nitrogen is higher the phosphorus

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is lower. And the potassium is
in the middle. Now, there are

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times when that is not an approach
ratio where your lawn needs something different.

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But in general, if we just
like I walk up to your yard,

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I have no idea what you've been
doing, if you fertilized or not,

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what you used or anything, then
I go with one of those ratios.

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You'll hear me say three one two
four one two ratios of nutrients. That's

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means three times as much nitrogen as
phosphorus, twice as much potastum as fosphorus

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three one two. That's always in
that number on the bag. So the

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first number nitrogen is what we used
to gauge it. And if you'll divide

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the first number on whatever fertilizer bag
is sitting in front of you into one

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hundred, that tells you how much
of it to apply per thousands of per

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feet of lawn. So a fertilizer
that has a higher number, you're going

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to need less of it because it's
more concentrated. Fertilijah has a lower number,

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you're going to use more of it. And it doesn't make lower or

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higher or anything good or bad or
whatever. It's just we're trying to get

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a good dose of nitrogen because that's
what pushes the growth now law needs.

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It's all the nutrients, of course, but nitrogen is the one we used

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to gauge everything. So that's that's
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So for example, if you had
a fertilizer, let's say that it had

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a really high nitrogen, like a
sixth one too, someone will say,

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well, that's too much nitrogen.
It's only too much nitrogen if you put

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too much of it on, you
know. It's like think about you can

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take tile and all you can take
regular tile and all extra strength tile,

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all right, one just has more
of the same thing in it, and

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so you would maybe take less of
the extra strength to equal the amount and

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the regular strength. That think of
your fertilizing that way, and that hopefully

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that simplifies that. That divide the
first number into a one hundred and I

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probably need to post that to Facebook. In fact I will today I want

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to get off this show. But
you want to just use that as your

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guide. So when we get into
the summertime, it is warm, and

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the grass is as happy as it's
going to be, and it is willing

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to grow very fast. Now we
want grass to have vigor and have good

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health, but we don't want to
mow every other day because it's growing so

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fast. By the time we wake
up in the morning's time to mow again.

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And so what we do is we
use a fertilizer that gradually releases.

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And there's a lot of different ways
fertilizer can be made to release gradually.

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There's there's technologies that can be incorporated
into a fertilizer to give it a slow

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release so the nitrogen doesn't all come
off at once. Organic fertilizers typically or

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slow release because they are microbially broken
down in the soil to release those nutrients

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that we want our grass to have
access to. And the slow release is

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a good good way to go.
If if you don't have a slow release,

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maybe you still have some of you
know, like fifteen five ten,

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which is a faster release fertilizer on
hand. And now we're going into summer.

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Would I would cut that application in
half? So I told you how

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to figure out how much you need, and so if you cut it in

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half, you can fertilize now and
fertilize six weeks later, and you sort

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of create your own more even growth
rate. It's not as good as a

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as a slow release fertilizer in terms
of smoothness of even rate through the time,

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but it's still it's still better than
just dumping it on all at once.

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Well, our phone number seven one
three, two, one two five

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eight seven four seven one three two
one two fifty eight seventy four. We

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want to hear what you're interested in
as we go forward. Today. We

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got a lot of a lot of
good horticultural things to talk about. But

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you know, the best, the
best radio, I think is when you

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guys call in, we can talk
and and kind of help solve your problem.

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I'll guarantee you that in an area
this large, there are a lot

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of other people that have the same
questions you do, the same kinds of

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challenges or whatever in the garden,
and so you want to be able to

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I'm gonna be able to answer your
questions, and then other people are going

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to hear the same the same kind
of thing, you know. The hang

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on just a minute. I've got
a little glitch here going on. I

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believe the phone calls that are coming
in are not showing up on my board.

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So we're gonna we're gonna fix that. Josh gonna come in here and

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wave a magic wand to fix that
for us. So anyway, I was

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talking about about the law, and
I also wanted to mention that this is

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a good time to get your perennials
established. If you can get those established,

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then here we go. Then they
have a better chance of surviving,

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doing well, and moving into summer. Okay, the gremlins are out of

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the system. I think we got
it working now. For those of you

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who have been hanging on while I
didn't see you were there, I'm gonna

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go ahead and get going here,
Terry in Beach City, let's see all

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right, Josh, I gotta get
in here one more time. Oh,

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there we go, Terry, good
Lorning, good morning. Sorry for the

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glitches. How can we help?
Okay? I had an area where bamboo

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was had been growing. To cut
it down, used to stump grinder to

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bust up the root of clusters,
and I killed the area. How long

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should I wait before I come back
and plant maybe magnolia trees. Well,

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even when you grind it and do
all that, there's still a lot of

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wood in the ground in that spot. Okay. And so generally we don't

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put a tree right back in there, because the stump grinder takes care of

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the stump. But there's a lot
of huge roots that are just outside that

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area, depending on how wide they
grind, and so I usually like to

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move over a little bit just to
get away from that immediate area. Now

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there's there's no problem if you take
care of the plant and get it in

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and get it established and going.
It's just here you got a new plant

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trying to get started, and there's
a lot of roots that are going to

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rot in the ground, but they're
not running yet, and so it just

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it just gives it a little more
time. Okay, well, I really

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need to use this eric, so
we're using it for a screen. My

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neighbor's big butts barn so speak.
So I need to go in that area,

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so I can wait if I need
to. Okay, well, but

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if if you can get all the
wood chips and stuff you can out of

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there as you do that, how
far over could you move or do you

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have to be right in that spot? It probably has to be in that

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spot, all right, Well,
then just go ahead and go for it.

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I tell you what I probably would
do if you don't have a need

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to get a tree out right now
in that spot, and you could wait

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until fall. That is an excellent
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the wood that's there time to at
least begin the decay decay process, and

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I think it'd probably be a little
better off. So why don't we hedge

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our belt by doing that? If
you can wait on the planting. Okay,

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let that area sit, don't do
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hall. You know you don't.
I might throw a little nitrogen on there

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and kind of water it in good
do that a couple of times, because

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nitrogen helps the carbon in the wood
helps microbes decompose it. You need that

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carbon and nitrogen. So if it's
all just wood chips at rotsbury slowly,

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you had a little nitrogen that speeds
things up a little bit. So I

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mean, you know you're not nuking
it with fertilizer, just a couple of

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times like it like it was a
lawn area and you were fertilizing. That's

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about right. Okay, Well,
appreciate your help. All right, thank

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you very much. Appreciate the call. Uh let's go to Ralph in northwest

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Houston. Now, good morning,
Ralph, good morning man. I'm sure

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glad to have you. I've been
here. Well, listen to this program

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was sent ahead to house, come
into a street and now yeah, well,

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anyway, I've been trying to follow
your ship schedule. But my Saint

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Augustine has some bootle patches that are
needs some help, and I have I

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don't know, I guess I have
to and then fertilize or whatever. Alrighty,

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have you done any aeration lately?
No? Okay, Uh have you

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fertilized this year yet? No?
I haven't. All right, good,

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Well, we want to get some
good fertilizer down and and you would it

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would it would do you well to
put out a release a fertilizer that is

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going to help kick that lawn into
some vigor. And I tell you,

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I tell you A good one to
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Slow and Easy by Nelson plant food. Uh. Nelson Slow and Easy is

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designed for summer, and I like
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other options for doing that, but
the folks Nelson and developing that really designed

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it to to give that gradual release
to help your long to do its best.

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And so that that would be something
I would do now. No,

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it's a twenty two two ten fertilizer. That's the numbers on the bag.

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So you only need five pounds per
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what you wanted to do. The
other thing I would ask you would just

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be do you do you have any
um? Do you have any disease problems

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that have been plaguing it in the
past? Or is it just now losing

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that? Yeah, it's not the
dress. Is I had real wrong runners?

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But I yes, okay, and
I can't get it to just all

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I'm fighting that I don't know,
Okay, Yeah, tell you what.

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Hang on, I'm gonna put you
on hold and come back to you right

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after the break. You're listening to
garden Line. I'm your host, Skip

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Richter in the number seven one three
two one two fifty eight seventy four.

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Isn't well, good morning on a
good Saturday morning for gardening. You're listening

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to garden Line. I'm your host, Skip Richter, and our phone number.

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Write this down. We got the
board's working now where I can see

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you when you call. It is
seven one three two one two fifty eight

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seventy four. And we're going to
head back let's see, we were visiting

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with my who do we have here, Ralph? I believe we had Ralph

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Northwest Houston, all right, Ralph. We were talking about your fertilizer and

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I was mentioning, you know that
you put out a product that will give

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you a good gradual release over time, and I think that that should take

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care of it. The only thing
where we were going and with the conversation

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was about diseases. Do you have
you had disease or insect problems in that

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law and in the past, Oh
no, not really, Okay, little

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packages of this, and I can
figure out what to do that. If

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you feel like it might be compacted, you know, you go out there

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and uh, it's a place where
people walk or you know, pets or

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vehicle traffic or anything that would really
speed up the compaction, then aeration.

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I definitely would would do that.
There's never it's never wrong to erate.

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I mean, it never hurts,
it always, it always is helpful.

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But sometimes it's more needed than others. So I can't I can't predict you

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know, how compacted your lawn is, but I can tell you that if

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you if the spots are just little
small patches, there's a number of things

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that could be and I don't know
that I'd run out trying to treat diseases

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and everything right now, just for
a few small patches, I think fertilizing

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them, giving a good, good
soaking, get that fertilizer in the ground

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will do the best thing in terms
of getting bigger, so it closes over

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those patches. All right, I
got you. That's I do appreciate you,

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man. Okay, well, thank
you for the call. I appreciate

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that, Ralph. Now we're going
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Mike. Good morning, Mike,
Good morning. Are you today? I'm

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well, thank you now that I
got the gremlins out of the air waves

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here and I can actually see that
callers are calling U. So you're talking

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about the fertilizer guard me thinking,
I fertilized my law for the first time

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this year, back in February,
and I do the whole bag between my

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front yard and my backyard, and
I experienced the issue that you were talking

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about earlier, a lot of overgrowth, great growth, but then a lot

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of overgrowth. They had to go
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Yeah, So my question is I'm
not too sure exactly how big my

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lawn is. It's from the front
in the backyard. What setting would you

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come in on those little spreaders that
we use? Boy, yeah, if

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you what what kind of product brand
are you using? What's the company?

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I still want? I'm on the
still the rainy levit schedule with the nitric

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clause. Okay, all right,
So there ought to be on a bag

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some guide there for you. As
far as the setting. The problem is,

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I can't tell you the setting because
different sizes of fertilizer particles require a

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different setting on the on the on
the fertilizer spreader, and you need the

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one that fits whatever, depending on
the fertilizer spreader you own and the fertilizer

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you buy. That's what determines the
setting. And so it can it can

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be all over the board in terms
of what number would be the right one,

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depending on you know, those those
things. So I would I would

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just do your best guess at that, but it should be on the bag.

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If ever you're in doubt, always
go lighter, because you can always

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come back over the lawn a second
time, even at the same setting or

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even a lesser setting, and you
sort of head your bet. That way,

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if you put too much out,
you run out a fertilizer before you

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finish the lawn, well that's a
problem, right, So, but I

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think your situation was the other It
was that it was it was too much

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was going out. So just just
either look on the bag or go on

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the website Night Fuss Fertilizer website and
you should be able to find the number.

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Sir. All right, Mike,
thank you appreciate the call. Let's

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see, we're gonna now head out
and we're gonna go to Michael and Cyprus.

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Good morning, Michael, Good morning. How can we help? Oh?

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Yeah, I'm interested in compost top
dressing. I know Randy Lemon had

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mentioned in the pad that's never too
late or too hot to do it.

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But what kind of precautions do I
need to take to it at a hotter

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month, say right now or beginning
of June. If you've got a good

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quality leaf mold composts, and that
means good quality means it's it's been thoroughly

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you know, decomposed. Uh,
there's not going to be a problem with

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that with the seasons. Now,
I wouldn't put it down an inch deep,

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you know, on on the line. Of course, that's not a

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top dressing. That's an inundating but
you can you can put a quality compost

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like that down any time of the
year. Okay um. Now, in

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regards to the new side, I've
recently laid about a palette of a new

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side in a dog pin area.
Okay, um, do I need to

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put composts on that or a void
putting compost on that as well? Uh?

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How recently like the last two weeks? Yeah, in the last few

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days, Okay, I would I
wouldn't top dress set. I would get

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it rooted down, give it a
give it at least two weeks to root

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in well, and then begin to
lightly fertilize it. And I think that

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would be the best way to go. At some point in the summer.

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it get rooted in and not add
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stage. Okay, I appreciate it. Thank you for your ope. All

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right, Michael, thank you for
the call. You're listening to Garden Line.

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I'm your host, Skip richter our
number. Please write this down you

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don't want to forget it. Seven
one three two one two fifty eight seventy

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four. Well, good morning,
good Saturday morning on a good day for

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gardening and a good day for talking
about gardening. On the radio. You're

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listening to garden Line and I'm your
host, Skip Richter Our number seven one

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three two one two five eight seven
four, and we are now going to

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head out to conrow and talk to
Bill. Good morning Bill, Hey,

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hey, Skip, good morning to
you. Two. Is you are called

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you last week about take all patch. I guess it's also called take all

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root rot correct. And I put
down pro piconozole for teen okay three,

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and I put down a slow release
fertilizer and with urea because I think that

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would help change the pH where will
make it more acidic. And then I

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was reading similar about this, and
my question is as the oxy as oxystroban

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is another thing that I heard was
putting really quite good for for this.

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Is that correct? That's right?
As I understand, Yes, yeah,

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yeah. As oxystroban is a newer, I guess, a newer chemistry than

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propiconozole that you mentioned, and it
is a systemic and it's very very effective

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because it gets in the plant and
continues to provide some benefits. So if

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you know you have put that down, how long what plays? How long

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should I wait before you know?
Having done the one, do I need

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to wait before I put the next
the augie down there? You know,

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I would probably I would probably give
it about four weeks before I put it

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down put the azoxy following it.
But take all root rod is primarily at

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least the turf scientists pathologists are telling
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in the spring, the cooler seasons
of the year, and not so much

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in the summer. We see the
results in the summer because as grass has

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lost roots, it's unable to tolerate
the summer as much. But I don't

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think you need to be doing the
fungicide on that in the summertime. Does

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it just go dormant or does it
dying or what? I don't know.

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It's just the pattern of its affecting
things. It's kind of like that,

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you know, the big brown circles
we used to call them brown patch,

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that they're in the lawns. That's
a cool season issue also, and when

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it gets hot, that fungus just
doesn't have the ability to, you know,

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do what it would do in the
spring, but I'm take all round

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all year. But it just that
the treatment times or primarily fall in spring.

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All right, we're I guess we're
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months. Really, yeah, we
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the propiconazole, you know, as
I'm thinking about it, it's gonna do

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fine, And I might just wait
now and then do the next treatment in

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the fall, I think. Okay, that was my next question is how

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many treatments is well, one a
year in general is enough. But if

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you're trying to get started started up
early on and now you're switching products,

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that's why I would have the two
this year. But anything you do to

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acidify the soil surface, you're not
going to change a pH of all the

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soil, but just up there where
the Saint Augustine runners are sitting, if

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you acidify that area, it gives
the grass the advantage over take all root

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rot being able to thrive. Okay, very good. Does a moony sofiate

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work for the acidifying you know,
it's been recommended in the past. That's

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a twenty one zero zero row fertilizer. If you feel like you have all

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the nutrients you had need in your
lawn. There's nothing wrong with that.

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Uh. There are a number of
acidic type fertilizers and a microlife makes a

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six two four in a red bag. That's that's uh more ascetic. Uh.

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And it's not going to change the
phure. So but we're just we're

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just pushing, we're leaning, We're
leaning everything toward a little high lower pH

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up there on the runner. Uh. Sometimes people have recommended other things,

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you know, light sulfur applications and
so on. Okay, you know a

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lot of my neighbors got hit by
the same thing. And one guy had

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a guy out held a long guy
and he was my neighbor. Said he

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said it was this was all caused
by the freeze. Um no, how

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does that work back? You know, back in February twenty one, we

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saw some damage to some lawns from
freeze. But in general, uh no,

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this is not this is just an
opportunist disease. Disease. It's around

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all the time. It's the most
common thing I see on saying in Augustine

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and so as Ron gets stressed,
the disease has the opportunity to move in

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and infect the patient, if you
will. He's pulling out all the dead

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stuff and adding dirt to the to
where he pulled out the dead stuff.

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Does that make Does that make sense
too, or do you need to do

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that? No, just just get
the dead stuff out of there so the

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new side can sit on the soil
rather than sitting on top of dead stuff.

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If you're having to add some yet, but you're you're not gonna you're

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not gonna rake it out. It's
it's ubiquitous and so all right, yeah,

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all right, all right, Hey, very good. Takes a lot.

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Yeah, thank you for the call. I appreciate that you were listening

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to garden Line, and Mike,
I appreciate you hanging on so far,

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and we're gonna have to ask you
to hang on just a little bit more.

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We're gonna go to break here.
You'll be first up and Ron and

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Deer Park you're next, if you'd
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advertised on this program. Welcome to
kt r H Garden Line with Skip rictor

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just good Saturday morning on a good
day for gardening. And to start off,

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maybe a cup of coffee and some
garden line on the radio. You

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know, I wanted to mention on
Saturday the thirteenth, that is next Saturday,

413
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day before Mother's Day, Arburgate is
having a special event and you really

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need to go check it out.
I'll tell you more about it later,

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but I'll be out there. I'll
make a two hour appearance at the table,

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probably be there longer than not.
But anyway, that's out at Arburgate

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in tom Ball area. They have
quite a shindgg going. So let's start

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by going now to Mike as promised
in spring. Good morning, Mike,

419
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Good morning, Skip Skip. So
I'm a retired now and I finally have

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time to do all the right things
that I want to do in my vegetable

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garden. And so one of the
things that I do is I grow sweet

422
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corn, and I have about seven
rows fifty feet long, and then they

423
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are looking beautiful. Now, the
problem is a lot of times I get

424
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that warm right up in the top. And I've been doing some reading and

425
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I don't mind using kim when when
I have to. Okay, um,

426
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so what would you what would you
recommend for not having worms? And I

427
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think timing is very critical. All
that that's right, That is right.

428
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So you got a couple of options. Uh, you can there is a

429
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BT granule that you can sprinkle into
the whorld. You know, as corn

430
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comes up, it's like it's this
like hollow tube in the in the top.

431
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You can sprinkle a BT into there. And because these critters are feeding,

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the eggs are laid and they're feeding
out there at times, and so

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that that's one thing you can do. The other thing is when the silks

434
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come out of the top of the
ear and they're only, oh, let's

435
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say two inches long, just put
a couple of drops of like a mineral

436
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oil. You can use a vegetable
oil to just a couple of drops to

437
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gum up all those little silky strand
at the base. Because the the moth

438
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lays egg and the caterpillar that hatches
crawls in the tip of the year.

439
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:05.559
And when you do that, you
create a caterpillar killing zone there. They

440
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can't take that that oil all around
them and it doesn't affect your your corn,

441
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it doesn't affect pollination. It'll still
all work. But you know you're

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not drenching it. You're just putting
a few drops right in the tip of

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the year after the silks are about
two inches long. Well, I am

444
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talking about a lot of corn.
Okay, so this is just a little

445
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batch. Yeah, well it's it's
it's fifty rows and I have seven rows.

446
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Yeah, a lot of us probably. Well you said you're retired.

447
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What else you got to do?
Well, you know what, I'm so

448
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busy. I don't have more any
time to do anything. All right,

449
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Well, all right, so we're
gonna I'll back off. If that's a

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little you got a lot of corners, that's pretty tedious, So you would

451
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just I would just go with a
BT. But you're gonna need to do

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BT. If you're gonna do a
spray that works, well, but you're

453
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gonna need to do that about probably
twice a week for a little while here

454
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as it gets started, because BT
doesn't last but about a date or two

455
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in the environment. And you know
you want to get at times, so

456
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you get it on there. So
when the worms are hatching and starting to

457
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do what they do, you can
you can shut them down, and that

458
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time is about two inches of the
silk. Well, no, you would,

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I would be spraying the BT when
the corn is you know, like

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waist high or even even smaller depending
on Just look. You'll see that you'll

461
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see holes in the leaves as they're
coming out of the top of the cornstalks,

462
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as it's growing and getting taller,
and that's a sign that those caterpillars

463
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are that there are caterpillars out and
about Yeah, how about spinosa? Spinosa

464
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is fine? I don't know.
It depends on the product as to whether

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or not it's labeled for corn a
vegetable garden. I know there's a Captain

466
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Jackson makes a spinosa and Monterey makes
a spinosa. There's a lot of spinosa's

467
00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:02.039
out there, but just check that
label to be sure. But it works

468
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on anything that choosing eats leaves,
so that would definitely include the caterpillars.

469
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Very cool. Then I'll appreciate you. All right, thank you, sir,

470
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Good luck with the corn. All
we ask is that you drop a

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bushel off at KTRH Studio and we'll
call it each yea, so alrighty by

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blast. All right, let's head
out to Deer Park now, by the

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way, our number is seven one
three two one two five eight seven four.

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We're gonna talk to Ron this morning. Good morning, Ron, Hey,

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good morning. I appreciate you taking
my call. Actually one question turned

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to two. So the first one, my main question was, I use

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about a three core inch thick mulch
on the soil, on natural bark mulch,

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but I know it's that underneath that, it's still the soil is really

479
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hard on tom. Okay, and
that's curious. What I could do to

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you know, is that is that? Should that be expected? Okay?

481
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And what is an alternative? And
then the second question, you've mentioned something

482
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about something too of a ward off
takeoff patch because I have a problem with

483
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it. It seemed like every year, you know, Yeah, I'm not

484
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sure exactly how to address that.
Okay. Well, they're trying to stay

485
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away from any heavy chemicals or anything
like that. Okay. Well, um,

486
00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:30.119
let's take those one at a time. Did you mean to say three

487
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quarters of an inch is as deep
as the mulchos? Yes? Okay,

488
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:38.800
Well I you need more. I
would have, you know, two inches

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or depending what is the bed?
Is this a flower bed or a shrub

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00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:46.800
bed or what? Yeah, it's
it's makes a flower in shrub. Okay,

491
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:51.280
I would at least do a two
inch malt if it's a pretty fine

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00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:54.840
textured mulch, and if if you
get real chunky, you might even have

493
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to go a little deeper than that. Because we're trying to block the light

494
00:37:58.280 --> 00:38:01.280
out. You always want to leave
the mulch and just add new malts.

495
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And so if you're planning flowers,
just pull that old malts back when you

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plant, pull it back around them, and refresh with a little bit on

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top. But the old malt,
as it's decomposing, is working at the

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soil surface, and it's helping to
loosen the soil. So one other alternative

499
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might be run to go ahead and
use a compost as a malt, maybe

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an inch if compost as a malt, and then if you want to put

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some wood, you know, decomposed
wood on top of that as a malt,

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that's fine. But that compost at
the soil surface will go a long

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way. And then each time you're
replanting something like flowers, you know that's

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00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:45.039
going to get worked into the soil
surface a little bit, just inherently as

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you're digging into pulling up an old
plant putting in a new one. And

506
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so I think that would be the
pathway to having a better situation there.

507
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Okay, So go with a compost
about a minute, about an inch,

508
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about an inch initially, and you
kind of scratch that in to an inch,

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00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:04.800
so you got an inch on top
and scratch it in and then finish

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with a mulch on top of that. And I think you're going to have

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we're gonna have to we have to
run to break. Let me come back

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and I'll jump on the take all
part of your question. You are listening,

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I'm gonna put you on hold here, Ron, you are listening to

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garden Line our number seven one three
two one two five eight seven four.

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Get to meet you guys and get
to see some cool stuff. We're going

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to head out to Deer Park now
and we are going to talk to Ron.

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Hello, Ron, thanks for waiting, Yes, sir, just waiting

518
00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:40.480
that you're gonna let me know about
what to put down to us, you

519
00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:44.920
know, as a permititive or something
or take the take all? Right,

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00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:47.760
okay, Well there's two ways to
go by take all, but both ways

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00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:52.039
begin with cultural practices. If the
soil is compacted, that needs to be

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00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:59.480
alleviated with coreperation and compost top dressing. If the area is very shady,

523
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:02.000
that's st as the grass, and
it may not be a spot for grass,

524
00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:06.199
or it may be that you can
improve on that a little bit when

525
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we use products that stress the grass
and a lot of the weed control products

526
00:40:12.119 --> 00:40:15.880
when the weather gets hot, the
post emergence can stress the grass and that

527
00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:25.280
predispose go ahead. Okay, So
the thing that you want to do from

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00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:30.360
a control standpoint, if you'd rather
not use a fungicide, you can put

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peat moss out. And this has
been done in two A and M tests

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00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:39.400
and been successful, and we haven't
quite turned the corner on it to where

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it's just an automatic recommendation. We're
always really cautious to make sure that the

532
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:51.000
data is correct. But if you
put about one compacted bale of peat moss

533
00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:57.519
per thousand square feet and water it
in that acidic environment around the runners,

534
00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:01.039
really helps suppress take our root rot. Uh. And so that would be

535
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:05.360
a compressed bale. So just think
of like a hay bale, but but

536
00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:07.880
a bag of compressed pete. You
have to break it up into a wheelbarrow,

537
00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:13.119
make little piles around the yard and
then and then spread it around uh.

538
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:15.800
And that would be the non UH. That would be the more organic

539
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:22.639
way. Of course, acidifying fertilizers
help. Even an application of sulfur to

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00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:25.639
the lawn can be helpful. But
but that would all be part of that

541
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:30.960
cultural effort. Well, where where
would you find the bag the bailed Pete

542
00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:36.199
Moss in So you're going to find
it in any of the good garden centers.

543
00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:37.039
If they don't have it, they're
gonna be able to order it for

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00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:40.480
you. Uh So, you know, you what, what's the what is

545
00:41:40.519 --> 00:41:45.840
the closest place you like to shop? I don't know, I'm in your

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00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:51.280
parks. I mean we have mows
nursery and then a couple of box stores,

547
00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:53.199
home depot at loads. I'll tell
you what. I would check with

548
00:41:53.239 --> 00:41:58.679
one of your local Ace hardwares too, U the Ace hardware. If they

549
00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:00.440
don't have it, they probably can
get it. Go ahead and ask them

550
00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:04.840
see if they get it in.
If not, Moss Moss probably could order

551
00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:07.360
it and get it in for you
as well. But just think about a

552
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:12.119
bail per thousand, So just figure
out about how many thousand square feets you

553
00:42:12.119 --> 00:42:15.119
want to cover and that that would
be the next approach for it, along

554
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:21.039
with a little bit of stuffer.
Is that like a hay bail? Yeah,

555
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:22.599
it was like a bag of soil, but it's square and hard.

556
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:29.039
You remember when coffee used to come
in those little vacuum packed breaks. That's

557
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what I'm talking about, but on
a big, like three point eight cubic

558
00:42:34.159 --> 00:42:37.119
foot bag, and when you fluff
it up, it becomes a lot more

559
00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:40.599
than that you have to break.
Okay, Yeah, it's okay, it's

560
00:42:40.639 --> 00:42:45.159
like that coffee excepted. Okay,
excellent, good thank you very much.

561
00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:49.960
Yeah, good luck. Appreciate that. I shall thank you. Ye bye

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bye. You're listening to garden Line. I'm your host, Skip Richter,

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and our phone number is seven one
three two one two five eight seven four

564
00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:07.920
seven one three two one two fifty
eight seventy four. We're talking about lawns

565
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and fertilizing lawns, and I was
talking about the ratio of the numbers on

566
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the bag, why we put nitrogen
on, why we don't put too much

567
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:20.559
nitrogen on, and you just in
general, you want to get your lawn

568
00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:25.960
soil to the condition where when that
grass needs anything, it's there and it's

569
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in the right amount. You know, some nutrients, when they become excessive,

570
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:37.280
they inhibit the plant from being able
to take up other nutrients because they

571
00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:39.960
make those nutrients, they change the
form of the nutrients. So for example,

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00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:43.519
okay, nerd alert here, we're
gonna go a little nerd alert.

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But I just want you to understand
the concept. If you have high pH

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and super high phosphorus levels, iron
becomes less available and so you get iron

575
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:57.840
chlorosis on your grass. Even though
there's plenty of iron in the soil,

576
00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:01.639
the plant can't get it. And
that's why I like to recommend soil tests,

577
00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:06.480
because when you do a soil test, you find out what is in

578
00:44:06.639 --> 00:44:10.599
my soil, and then you can
fertilize accordingly. In general, you know,

579
00:44:10.679 --> 00:44:15.119
I've I did a study one time
in northwest Austin where we looked at

580
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two hundred homes. We soil tested
everyone, and there wasn't a single home

581
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that needed phosphorus. I'm serious,
two hundred. Now, that's not necessarily

582
00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:30.639
normal for it to be that crazy
overwhelming, But in general, phosphorus is

583
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:37.360
generally not needed much a little.
It's an essential nutrient, but most soils

584
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are going to have some, but
maybe not your lawn. So with a

585
00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:44.360
soil test, you find out what
you have and you can fertilize you know,

586
00:44:44.360 --> 00:44:45.960
accordingly, And that's that's what we're
talking about. If you want to

587
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:52.159
get your soil tested, you can
go to soil testing one word soil testing

588
00:44:52.719 --> 00:45:00.199
dot TAMU, dot e DU.
That is a state soil testing lab up

589
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:02.760
in College Station, and there's a
farm there you fill out. You want

590
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:07.519
the urban soil test. And that's
not because we're in Houston. I mean,

591
00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:10.719
you can be out in Timbuck two
on one hundred acre farm far from

592
00:45:12.039 --> 00:45:16.079
civilization. You still want the urban
soil test. If you're doing lawns and

593
00:45:16.119 --> 00:45:20.440
gardens and landscapes. That's really what
that means. I wish they called it

594
00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:23.639
something different, but anyway, they
don't. So this isn't the farmer's soil

595
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:27.960
tests. This is the urban soil
test. Fill out that farm, tell

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00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:30.079
them you know, I'm growing roses. There's a box to check I'm growing

597
00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:35.239
saying, you know grass, I
have a vegetable garden. And then when

598
00:45:35.320 --> 00:45:38.760
the results come in, it will
be geared toward what you are growing in

599
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:42.599
that spot. And you don't have
to soil test every year. I mean

600
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every few years is fine, but
it just helps you fertilize more intelligently.

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And in the meantime, we give
you the rule of thumb and you're not

602
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going to go wrong. I mean, you can go fertilize with the rule

603
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:55.880
of thumb for five years in a
row. That's fine. Just occasionally you

604
00:45:55.920 --> 00:46:00.760
do need to check and soil tests
to get the best results from that.

605
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:05.079
That's kind of what we're aiming for, because everybody wants to have a beautiful

606
00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:08.400
lawn, right, I mean,
you know we it's it's like an American

607
00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:15.159
tradition. We we love our lawns, and I know there's a movement towards,

608
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:17.159
you know, having less lawn and
doing other things. And hey,

609
00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:20.760
it's your yard. Do what you
want. I mean, it's your property.

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As long as you and the homeowners
association can get along on it,

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00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:28.599
then have fun. But in general, people want a beautiful lawn. They

612
00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:34.360
want it to be uh just attractive, evenly green and the carpet of the

613
00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:37.920
landscape. That's basically what a lawn
is. That's your outdoor carpeting, and

614
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:45.119
so having it good and beautiful is
important. Our number one cause of law

615
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:49.880
problems. Um uh. If you
want to see the number one cause at

616
00:46:50.119 --> 00:46:54.039
lawn problems, we need to go
look in the mirror. It's we we

617
00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:59.079
tend to to miss take care of
our law. We you know, our

618
00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:07.880
fur furizing is uninformed and sometimes illly
timed. H We uh have compaction that

619
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:12.039
we don't alleviate on the lawn.
We overwater Oh my gosh, do we

620
00:47:12.159 --> 00:47:15.719
ever overwater our lawns in Houston?
Uh? It is? It rains a

621
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:19.159
lot here, but we still water
like we lived in El Paso U.

622
00:47:19.400 --> 00:47:23.119
And you know all the things we
do to to predispose problems. I talked

623
00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:29.079
about overdoing the nitrogen and having issues
with that. That's the problem. You

624
00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:31.400
know. Just take care of your
grass, return the nutrients, follow our

625
00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:35.559
guidelines, use the kind of products
we're talking about, and you can have

626
00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:42.000
that kind of beautiful dance and healthy
and healthy lawn too. Let's head out

627
00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:46.519
now we're gonna go to the phones
as John in Lafayette, Louisiana. John,

628
00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:51.599
how are you today? Great?
Just raining a lot crazy over here

629
00:47:51.719 --> 00:47:53.719
right now? Is it all right? Yeah? And you're listening to Guardline

630
00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:59.639
on the radio or on their computer
on my computer? Well, yeah,

631
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:01.639
I phone too, sore fron Okay, good well, glad you listen.

632
00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:07.000
How can we help? Yeah?
I lived over ju Snarrea for like forty

633
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:09.039
years, you know, I always
kept up my yard and never think with

634
00:48:09.159 --> 00:48:16.119
the nitrofoss products. And since I
moved over here my yard, the weeds

635
00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:21.480
are just going crazy. Now I'm
not sure how to get started on it

636
00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:27.679
because I cannot find the nitro foss
products over here. Okay, use I

637
00:48:27.800 --> 00:48:30.400
was going to have any ideas what
I can do to get get the weeds

638
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:36.559
under control anyway. Yeah, So
if you're not finding the products we talk

639
00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:40.599
about here, the nitro fist,
the Nelson's, the microlife for example here

640
00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:46.440
for your lines, just find something
that has a three one to ratio three

641
00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:52.000
times as much of the first number
as a second, half as much or

642
00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:54.599
twice as much of the third number
as a second three one two, and

643
00:48:55.119 --> 00:48:59.000
you'll find that a lot of numbers
like fifteen five, ten is a real

644
00:48:59.079 --> 00:49:02.400
common one that you see out there. And I would fertilize at the rate

645
00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:07.679
we recommend. You can follow the
schedule that's available online. And as far

646
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:10.639
as the weeds, you have two
options. You can start fighting them with

647
00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:14.559
sprays, and if you're going to
do that, you need to do the

648
00:49:14.639 --> 00:49:19.679
broad leaf spray right away because it's
about to get way too hot for applying

649
00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:23.920
those things. Or you could just
mow it and ignore it and work on

650
00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:30.039
mowing, watering, and fertilizing to
bring that lawn back and choke out most

651
00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:32.920
of the weed problems. And then
you may have some treatments for the others.

652
00:49:34.039 --> 00:49:36.920
But when you get into the fall, you want to put a pre

653
00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:39.639
emergent down to stop the seeds that
are going to carry you all through the

654
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:43.320
winter. In spring, the weed
seeds that are going to do that.

655
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:46.280
And I think in general that those
guidelines are is how I would go about

656
00:49:46.320 --> 00:49:50.960
it. Just you can make that
choice. But I'm about to have to

657
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:54.039
go to a break here. Did
that cover your question? Yeah, I

658
00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:58.800
believe so. But the fifteen to
fifteen five ten, that's a fertilizer,

659
00:49:58.920 --> 00:50:01.239
right, yes, sir, that
would be an example of a three one

660
00:50:01.519 --> 00:50:07.280
to ratio product. Okay, all
right, Hey, thanks for listening and

661
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:12.400
Lafayette and I appreciate you giving us
a call. You're listening to garden Line.

662
00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:15.159
We're gonna go to break, but
Greg and Pinehurst will catch you right

663
00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:30.079
when we come back. Spirit Well, good morning on a good Saturday morning

664
00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:35.360
for gardening. We love to talk
about things that are gardening related. I'm

665
00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:37.079
going to head back out. I
still got John there on the line and

666
00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:43.599
Lafayette johnre do you ever a follow
up? No, I don't, okay,

667
00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:45.159
id't know. I didn't know I
was still on the line. I'm

668
00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:49.440
sorry, no problem, that's okay, thank you for your call. Let's

669
00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:52.000
head to Pinehurst. We're gonna talk
to Greg Well. Hello, Greg,

670
00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:58.440
Hey, Skip, how you doing
so? My yard is looking phenomenal thanks

671
00:50:58.480 --> 00:51:05.039
to you and Randy Hobby. I've
got about a hundred foot of fence privacy

672
00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:12.920
fits that I went to line with
m Probably I'm thinking cherry laurels. The

673
00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:15.719
only other thing I could think of
would maybe be Eagleston hollies. But I

674
00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:20.639
really like the cherry laurels. I'm
just afraid they're not going to get tall

675
00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:23.719
enough. How tall do cherry laurels
typically get. They get tall enough.

676
00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:29.559
I've seen even the Brighton tight,
which is a more compact grower, I've

677
00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:34.039
seen at twelve fifteen feet tall.
So in time, okay, that time

678
00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:37.000
perfect? Okay, yeah, in
time obviously in their fast gros. And

679
00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:39.920
then one more question about that.
Could I was thinking to kind of just

680
00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:45.400
add a little color maybe on the
ends of each of one hundred foot each

681
00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:49.360
side, put like a vitex or
something is that we play well together a

682
00:51:49.519 --> 00:51:52.360
vitex in tery level. Well,
you know, you wouldn't want to get

683
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:57.159
them too close together. But the
vitex is deciduous, so it's going to

684
00:51:57.199 --> 00:52:00.440
be your summer color. You would
just have to keep that trimmed in order

685
00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:07.159
to maintain uh some appropriate size for
what you want to at a vitex,

686
00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:09.559
you know, Santonio. The other
day I saw some vitexes that were two

687
00:52:09.639 --> 00:52:15.000
stories high. That's one of the
tallest vitexes I've seen. So they get

688
00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:19.239
big in time, but in general
they can be kept. I have one

689
00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:22.039
at my house that's about it's probably
about ten feet tall. I've been kind

690
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:27.079
of keeping it at that size,
just with some judicious pruning, so you

691
00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:30.159
have a range there. And then
what one more question in my beds,

692
00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:35.239
I call it, can call it
a bed um, it's um. There's

693
00:52:35.239 --> 00:52:38.960
this area that I would love a
landscape or tell me he thought a Japanese

694
00:52:39.320 --> 00:52:43.960
maple would be a really good kind
of ornamental tree. Okay, because it's

695
00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:47.480
a very very low shade. Um, but I'm afraid it's almost got too

696
00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:52.280
much shade. How much can a
Japanese like how much sunshine. Does a

697
00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:57.239
Japanese maple apps actually need excuse me, Yeah, that's that's hard to be

698
00:52:57.400 --> 00:53:00.159
precise with an answer on that.
They if they, if you were to

699
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:04.679
ask a Japanese maple, it would
love a little morning sun and then some

700
00:53:04.840 --> 00:53:07.719
dapples shade throughout the day. Uh, if you if you put it in

701
00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:12.960
too deep of a shade, if
it's deep enough, it's not going to

702
00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:16.239
do well go downhill. But if
it's it's at least going to be more

703
00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:22.000
sparse. It's gonna be a little
more thin, just because it's not getting

704
00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:27.280
that light. So sure, it
comes down to foot candles and time greg

705
00:53:27.599 --> 00:53:30.559
In other words, you know,
a good little morning sun goes a long

706
00:53:30.639 --> 00:53:34.639
way and keeping a plant boosted,
but a bright shade all through the day

707
00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:38.079
can essentially be the equivalent. And
you know, think about the solar rays,

708
00:53:38.400 --> 00:53:43.440
you know, like rain coming down
and so how hard is it raining

709
00:53:43.519 --> 00:53:45.880
and how long does it rain?
Right, and so that determines how to

710
00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:51.239
train you get And the sun is
similar. And so it's not to say

711
00:53:51.239 --> 00:53:54.639
you can get a whole day requirement
in an hour of blazing hot sun.

712
00:53:54.760 --> 00:54:00.199
It's just to say that if the
shadier it is the brighter it needs to

713
00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:06.760
be, and the longer of a
somewhat bright time during the day you have

714
00:54:06.920 --> 00:54:09.000
for it to do well. Okay, Yeah, I just want to set

715
00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:13.239
it up for success. And I'm
still not sure it's the right spot for

716
00:54:13.519 --> 00:54:16.519
really anything to grow because I had
some the builder had put some I think

717
00:54:16.639 --> 00:54:21.000
box woods or something there, and
they just die because it just does die.

718
00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:23.159
And it's got very go kind of
poor drainage. So maybe I shouldn't

719
00:54:23.159 --> 00:54:25.960
put anything there. I don't want
to buy a Japanese maple in it die

720
00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:29.599
in a year. So yeah,
yeah, they're they you know there,

721
00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:32.360
they come at a price. The
yeah, I don't know that. I

722
00:54:32.440 --> 00:54:36.039
think the drainage. I mean,
look at how you fix that, because

723
00:54:36.079 --> 00:54:37.599
there are a lot of good things
in the sun. There's bears breeches,

724
00:54:37.719 --> 00:54:44.639
which is a nissa canthus makes a
tall spike. It's an unusual perennial.

725
00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:47.360
Uh there ish I had one in
my head just a moment ago. Oh.

726
00:54:47.480 --> 00:54:52.320
The oak leaf Hydrangia makes a very
large, pretty bush. But again

727
00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:57.000
you don't put it in a swamp. But but it'll appreciate a moist area.

728
00:54:57.679 --> 00:55:01.079
It likes wet feet. Yeah,
and you know, just wherever you

729
00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:04.400
know, wherever you do your shopping. I mean you're not too far from

730
00:55:04.519 --> 00:55:08.039
A and A, are you?
Or are you pretty far from Yeah,

731
00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:12.519
it's up in Montgomery actually, uh
yeah, no that's not too far.

732
00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:15.280
I'm really I'm close to plants for
all seasons in the arbor Gate. But

733
00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:17.400
I think, okay, well,
hey, any of those places are going

734
00:55:17.480 --> 00:55:22.079
to be able to point you to
some things that I wouldn't list here if

735
00:55:22.119 --> 00:55:23.719
I talked for an hour. You
know that that they care, yeah,

736
00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:28.920
and so. And also down at
Nature's Way they have a nice plant selection

737
00:55:29.000 --> 00:55:30.800
now and a lot of natives.
So if you're interesting something a little native,

738
00:55:31.159 --> 00:55:35.679
they may have something that works well
in the in the shade for you.

739
00:55:36.039 --> 00:55:39.360
But those yeah, okay, yeah, the places you mentioned that you're

740
00:55:39.400 --> 00:55:43.960
gonna be able to come home with
something good. And my landscape for actually

741
00:55:44.039 --> 00:55:47.119
used to work for plants for all
seasons, so he definitely knows what he's

742
00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:50.159
doing. But kind of like you, it's kind of like he can,

743
00:55:50.239 --> 00:55:52.880
I have so many ideas in his
head, right, so hopeful, Well,

744
00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:54.800
yeah, I know it's it's it's
always hard, off the top of

745
00:55:54.880 --> 00:56:00.320
the hat to think through a billion
plants and come up with one. Sure.

746
00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:04.280
Yeah, I tell you I'm gonna
be at Arbourgate next Saturday. I'll

747
00:56:04.320 --> 00:56:07.119
be there over I think it's eleven
thirty to one thirty. I believe it's

748
00:56:07.159 --> 00:56:10.840
the time. Uh and uh yeah, that's right. And if you want

749
00:56:10.880 --> 00:56:15.320
to take some pictures of that area
from different angles, just kind of let

750
00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:19.519
me see it. Maybe I could
give you a little bit better answer on

751
00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:22.400
how the maple would do there.
Just absolutely bring them on your phone.

752
00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:25.400
Already you're going to be there,
so yeah, it will definitely come out.

753
00:56:25.480 --> 00:56:29.079
Oh it's gonna be a blast.
I mean they're gonna have Balini's I

754
00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:31.480
mean, you know, so it's
gonna be it's gonna be art in the

755
00:56:31.519 --> 00:56:35.599
garden part. I'll bring my two
year old. All right, there you

756
00:56:35.719 --> 00:56:38.000
go. All right, thank thanks
for the call. Greg. I appreciate

757
00:56:38.119 --> 00:56:42.480
that you're listening to garden Line and
our phone number if you want to get

758
00:56:42.519 --> 00:56:45.320
on the board during break seven one
three, two, one two five eight

759
00:56:45.480 --> 00:57:02.719
seven four you did the same,
being well, good morning on a good

760
00:57:02.800 --> 00:57:10.280
Saturday morning for gardening. You're listening
to garden Line our phone number seven one

761
00:57:10.519 --> 00:57:15.719
three two one two five eight seven
four seven one three two one two fifty

762
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:22.559
eight seventy four. We're gonna head
out now to northwest Houston and talk to

763
00:57:22.639 --> 00:57:30.440
Frank. Morning Frank, Good morning, Skip. I have a problem with

764
00:57:30.599 --> 00:57:35.559
my peach tree. I'm gonna do
the harveys, but all the limbs are

765
00:57:35.639 --> 00:57:38.480
horror zone. So not all of
them, but you know, most of

766
00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:42.760
them is kind of you know,
grouping on the ground. Okay, I

767
00:57:42.920 --> 00:57:46.760
prop these limbs up a time up
after iluma harveys. Yeah, you kind

768
00:57:46.760 --> 00:57:52.360
of need to. The weight of
that heavy load is going to bend them

769
00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:58.519
down, and they're generally bounced back. But if if they're weighted down for

770
00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:01.440
long enough, the limb just kind
of doesn't fully bounced back, And so

771
00:58:01.639 --> 00:58:05.000
I would do that. I would
also look at the way you prune to

772
00:58:05.079 --> 00:58:07.800
try to you want to create an
open bowl with your tree pruning. So

773
00:58:08.360 --> 00:58:13.039
your peach tree looks like a bowl
or a chalice, if you will,

774
00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:16.480
but it's it's open. It allows
light in the center, but it's not

775
00:58:16.639 --> 00:58:22.079
hanging so far out because as those
branches go way too far out, Frank,

776
00:58:22.119 --> 00:58:24.599
you're gonna end up getting sun skald
on the branches. There's gonna be

777
00:58:24.599 --> 00:58:30.559
a lot more suckers growing straight up
and water sprouts off the shoots that are

778
00:58:30.639 --> 00:58:34.320
not productive growing back in the middle
of the tree. So kind of aim

779
00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:37.400
for about a forty five degree angle
on all those branches, maybe sixty degrees

780
00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:44.960
going out, and that would probably
be about ideal. So it wouldn't be

781
00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:49.800
a provate to prom at this time. Oh no, I would prop them

782
00:58:49.880 --> 00:58:52.639
now and get the get the fruit
off that you can. How close to

783
00:58:52.719 --> 00:58:55.559
harvest do you think you are?
Is this a real early peach or not

784
00:58:57.400 --> 00:59:00.960
about this time tomorrow? Oh my
gosh. Okay, no, don't do

785
00:59:01.039 --> 00:59:05.400
anything. Just get prop the branches. You don't want them broken, and

786
00:59:05.559 --> 00:59:09.199
then when the harm when the all
that's done, then you can try to,

787
00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:13.440
you know, get things back into
the shape you want them. Do

788
00:59:13.559 --> 00:59:16.840
any pruning minor pruning that you might
need to do to keep those uh,

789
00:59:17.159 --> 00:59:21.159
water sprout suckers coming up through the
middle of the tree. As we go

790
00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:25.119
through the rest of the summer,
do I continually see this tree? You

791
00:59:25.199 --> 00:59:28.559
know? It depends on the growth. How old is the tree? How

792
00:59:28.599 --> 00:59:30.559
many years in the ground. Oh, it's been in the ground about three

793
00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:35.280
years. Okay, so you're you're
hitting the productive age of the tree.

794
00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:39.960
Now it's kicking in on good good
production, good production, So I would

795
00:59:42.440 --> 00:59:45.159
I would let the growth guide you. At the end of a season on

796
00:59:45.280 --> 00:59:51.400
a peach tree, you should have
about eighteen to twenty four inches of new

797
00:59:51.480 --> 00:59:54.119
growth on the shoots. If it's
more than that, you don't need to

798
00:59:54.199 --> 00:59:58.400
fertilize so much. Back off.
If it's less than that, it could

799
00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:01.159
use a little extra fertilizer. So
with that heavy load of fruit, it's

800
01:00:01.199 --> 01:00:05.440
probably not doing as much growing as
it could. But if you're seeing some

801
01:00:05.639 --> 01:00:09.880
vigor, now I would hold off
on the fertilizing. Okay, I think

802
01:00:10.000 --> 01:00:14.079
that's provided. But you say,
profit don't wrap it, you know,

803
01:00:14.320 --> 01:00:17.599
to string around it or something.
Well, yeah, you could do the

804
01:00:19.239 --> 01:00:22.400
I wouldn't you know, do the
string. I knew a peach orchardess that

805
01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:27.239
had banded his trees to hold them
up like that, using a kind of

806
01:00:27.280 --> 01:00:30.480
a plastic type strap banding. But
you don't want it to cut into the

807
01:00:30.559 --> 01:00:34.159
branches. But I think you're in
good shape. But hey, Frank,

808
01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:37.320
if you've got that many peaches,
you need to bring me about a bushel

809
01:00:37.400 --> 01:00:40.119
maybe bushel and a half, and
drop them off at the station. Because

810
01:00:40.119 --> 01:00:43.280
you got too many. I have
to take some off your hands. Well,

811
01:00:43.280 --> 01:00:45.800
I bring you with the squirrels,
so only oh my gosh, well

812
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:49.079
that's gonna leave me hungry. Hey, thanks for the call, appreciate that.

813
01:00:49.559 --> 01:00:52.480
Let's go out to northwest Houston and
we're going to talk to Mike.

814
01:00:52.039 --> 01:00:58.400
Good morning, Mike, Marty Skip. I just had a drip system put

815
01:00:58.480 --> 01:01:01.000
in my flower beds in my f
you know, in my front yard.

816
01:01:01.440 --> 01:01:05.840
Yes, and they put the drip
system in it kind of a grid.

817
01:01:06.480 --> 01:01:09.840
And my wife couldn't like the way
that they laid the grid on top of

818
01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:14.800
the you know, around around the
shrubs. But it's lay it on top

819
01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:17.039
of the ground. And I was
wondering, would it be wise to put

820
01:01:17.119 --> 01:01:23.119
some course pine board mulch in there
and kind of cover the pipe pipe looking

821
01:01:23.199 --> 01:01:27.719
things? Gotcha, I understand the
reason for that. You can do it

822
01:01:27.800 --> 01:01:30.599
either way. The advantage of having
the drip on top of the ground is

823
01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:34.320
you can see when it's working and
when it's not. You know, if

824
01:01:34.480 --> 01:01:37.960
if an a metter gets clogged,
it's kind of evident when you turn it

825
01:01:37.079 --> 01:01:39.400
on, just go kind of check
it over. If you put it under

826
01:01:39.440 --> 01:01:42.920
mulch, you can't see that,
but it does hide the pipe. And

827
01:01:43.119 --> 01:01:47.079
so either way is fine, just
you know, occasionally, just make sure

828
01:01:47.159 --> 01:01:51.480
that it's working well. Maybe when
it's time to remulch or to add to

829
01:01:51.519 --> 01:01:53.360
the mulch, you can kind of
pull the line up through the mulch,

830
01:01:53.480 --> 01:01:55.599
take a look at things, turn
it on, and then throw the new

831
01:01:55.679 --> 01:02:00.280
malch on top of that. Okay, how deep should up put? Deep

832
01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:02.159
should I make the mulch when I
put it down for the first time?

833
01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:07.239
What is the plants being grown in
the bed? Oh? My goodness,

834
01:02:07.320 --> 01:02:09.840
you would actually we are We don
have flowers or shrubs? No, no,

835
01:02:10.079 --> 01:02:13.880
no, no, there's shrubs.
Okay, shrubs. Yeah. I

836
01:02:13.920 --> 01:02:16.800
would probably put about a three inch
mulch. And it depends on what.

837
01:02:17.159 --> 01:02:21.280
Now, if you're going with a
fine mulch like compost, for example,

838
01:02:21.519 --> 01:02:22.840
well you don't need three inches,
you know, an inch or two is

839
01:02:23.000 --> 01:02:28.719
enough. But the three inches is
pretty good for most things that blocks the

840
01:02:28.840 --> 01:02:31.119
light. And that's what we're asking
for the mulch to do. Well,

841
01:02:31.320 --> 01:02:36.079
I's gonna put down a course mulch. Shut, How deep should that be?

842
01:02:36.719 --> 01:02:38.920
I still think three would work.
You'll know though, if we'd start

843
01:02:39.000 --> 01:02:44.239
popping through you don't have a thick
enough Okay, very good, Thank you.

844
01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:45.360
For your time. I appreciate you, Skip, thank you for the

845
01:02:45.440 --> 01:02:50.440
call. You're listening to garden Line. Here is our number, write it

846
01:02:50.480 --> 01:02:52.840
down, give us a call,
Josh. You'll get you on the board

847
01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:58.000
for our next hour, which why
time is flying this morning? Seven one

848
01:02:58.239 --> 01:03:05.360
three two one two five eight seven
four seven one three two one two KTRH.

849
01:03:05.880 --> 01:03:07.920
We're gonna be back here. We
got plenty more to talk about today,

850
01:03:08.000 --> 01:03:15.159
including your calls, so we referred
to coming back and visiting with you

851
01:03:15.199 --> 01:03:20.320
about what's of interest to you.
The nice thing about gardening is there's something

852
01:03:20.400 --> 01:03:23.800
for everybody, orchids on the house, to the lawn outside, to everything

853
01:03:23.920 --> 01:03:30.800
in between. KTRH Garden Line does
not necessarily endorse any of the products or

854
01:03:30.840 --> 01:03:37.599
services advertised on this program. Welcome
to KTRH Garden Line with Skip Rictor.

855
01:03:37.920 --> 01:03:58.239
So please just watching as I need
to get out today and purchase some container,

856
01:03:58.400 --> 01:04:00.719
some pots, or some indoor plants. I'm gonna be doing some repotting

857
01:04:00.840 --> 01:04:06.239
of some indoor plants today and I
need to find some really good, attractive

858
01:04:06.400 --> 01:04:11.800
quality containers. Oh my gosh,
the containers now so much better than it

859
01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:15.239
used to be. It just it's
astounding. But I enjoy that process or

860
01:04:15.320 --> 01:04:18.559
repotting. You're listening to garden Line. I'm your host, Skip Richter.

861
01:04:18.880 --> 01:04:23.519
We are here to answer your gardening
questions. Our phone number is seven one

862
01:04:23.639 --> 01:04:29.599
three two one two five eight seven
four seven one three two one two fifty

863
01:04:29.679 --> 01:04:33.199
eight seventy four. Give us call. Let's talk about whatever is of interest

864
01:04:33.239 --> 01:04:41.199
to you when it comes to gardening. We were discussing peach trees and fruit

865
01:04:41.239 --> 01:04:44.199
trees and things like that. If
you if you have a fruit tree and

866
01:04:44.280 --> 01:04:47.039
you hadn't thinned it, you probably
need to think about doing that pretty soon,

867
01:04:47.239 --> 01:04:49.840
sooner rather than later. Of course, you know, if you're if

868
01:04:49.840 --> 01:04:54.039
you're like Frank and you're already picking
the fruit, well, my gosh,

869
01:04:54.119 --> 01:04:57.360
I mean, that's a little too
late to thin. But generally I thin

870
01:04:57.480 --> 01:05:00.920
peaches when they're about the size of
my thumb. That kind of one inch

871
01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:04.239
rule. I like it when when
we have measuring devices at the end of

872
01:05:04.280 --> 01:05:08.800
our arms. For everything, you
know, you plant, you plant onions

873
01:05:08.880 --> 01:05:13.519
as deep as the first joint on
your index finger. You thin peaches when

874
01:05:13.559 --> 01:05:16.559
they get about the size of your
thumb. Yeah, I mean we have

875
01:05:16.679 --> 01:05:20.000
a lot of If you haven't figured
out how to use your hands for all

876
01:05:20.079 --> 01:05:24.000
kinds of measuring. What's the when
you open them wide open? What's the

877
01:05:24.119 --> 01:05:27.280
distance from your end of your thumb
to the end of your finger. I'm

878
01:05:27.320 --> 01:05:30.440
talking about wide open where you can
see all your fingers and everything's sticking out.

879
01:05:30.800 --> 01:05:32.639
From the end of your little finger
to the end of your thumb.

880
01:05:32.719 --> 01:05:38.119
That's how far apart you thin your
peaches. And so if you're you look

881
01:05:38.159 --> 01:05:40.559
at the width of your hand,
you know, close your hand up or

882
01:05:40.840 --> 01:05:44.599
not not a fist, but just
flat like you're you're waving at somebody.

883
01:05:45.039 --> 01:05:49.719
Uh, the width from across from
one side of your your knuckles to the

884
01:05:49.800 --> 01:05:54.840
other side across there, that's how
far apart you thin thumb plums. So

885
01:05:55.079 --> 01:05:57.760
that makes it easy, right,
easy to remember. Well, let's go

886
01:05:57.840 --> 01:06:00.199
to the phones again, the number
seven, one, three, two into

887
01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:03.920
fifty eight seventy four. We are
going to start off in Montgomery talking to

888
01:06:04.039 --> 01:06:08.280
Jim. Hello, Jim, Hey, how you doing skip, I'm well,

889
01:06:08.400 --> 01:06:11.599
thanks? What's up? Well?
I got this thing. I live

890
01:06:11.719 --> 01:06:15.039
up here on five acres and it's
pretty woodsy in some areas, and I

891
01:06:15.199 --> 01:06:23.199
was wandering around through the woods.
I found a cedar juniper that evidently they

892
01:06:23.320 --> 01:06:27.599
pop up here every now and then. I guess birds eat the juniper berries

893
01:06:27.679 --> 01:06:30.400
or whatever, and because they seem
to be underneath trees and kind of in

894
01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:34.599
the woods. But I want to
transplant this one that I found. It's

895
01:06:35.239 --> 01:06:39.840
only about three and a half four
feet tall. But I was wondering,

896
01:06:40.079 --> 01:06:45.880
do they have tap roots? I
don't think so, but I may be

897
01:06:45.039 --> 01:06:51.639
paying about that. I don't you
know, if it's a seedling. I

898
01:06:51.719 --> 01:06:54.920
don't know, Jim, I'm gonna
have to check that out. But I

899
01:06:54.960 --> 01:06:58.079
can tell you this when you transplanted. First of all, if you could

900
01:06:58.119 --> 01:07:00.960
wait until fall to do it,
it would be better because you can do

901
01:07:01.079 --> 01:07:05.960
that it's an evergreen, and when
they don't like being transplanted. So if

902
01:07:06.039 --> 01:07:10.480
you can get it done in the
fall, when it's cool and the demands

903
01:07:10.519 --> 01:07:13.760
are super low, I think your
chances are going to be better. But

904
01:07:14.320 --> 01:07:17.159
think wider rather than deeper. So
I think you're a question about a tap

905
01:07:17.280 --> 01:07:19.760
root, was like, how deep
do I need to dig? You only

906
01:07:19.880 --> 01:07:24.840
need to dig about eight inches deep. But if you can get you know,

907
01:07:25.199 --> 01:07:28.280
like two feet wide on each side
of the plant, that's a huge

908
01:07:28.480 --> 01:07:32.360
thing. But what I've done,
I'll take a tarp out and I'll slide

909
01:07:32.440 --> 01:07:35.320
it onto the tarp so I don't
have to pick up all that soil,

910
01:07:35.639 --> 01:07:39.360
and then I'll just drag it over
to where I want to replant it.

911
01:07:39.519 --> 01:07:42.639
So I don't know if that's a
practical on the setting you're describing or not,

912
01:07:42.960 --> 01:07:47.079
but no, it's probably about.
Like I said, I live on

913
01:07:47.159 --> 01:07:50.760
five acres, so when I found
this thing, it's up closer to the

914
01:07:50.840 --> 01:07:55.960
front of my property and where I
want to put it, it's back closer

915
01:07:56.039 --> 01:08:00.639
to the house. But I can
wait till, you know, gets cold

916
01:08:01.360 --> 01:08:06.679
and do that. But um,
it's sandy soil, so it's pretty easy

917
01:08:06.760 --> 01:08:11.079
after it rains to move a lot
of that out of the way and kind

918
01:08:11.119 --> 01:08:14.920
of scrape it away and then dig
it up and I can get pretty much

919
01:08:14.960 --> 01:08:17.399
all the roots. I've done that
with some of its American Hollywood grows wild

920
01:08:17.439 --> 01:08:21.920
out here in the wood. Yes, I've moved a couple of those before

921
01:08:23.079 --> 01:08:26.840
and they're growing like crazy. Well
you must know what you're doing then,

922
01:08:26.920 --> 01:08:30.239
because that's a that is a good
a good way to go about it.

923
01:08:30.079 --> 01:08:33.199
But yeah, I would I would
do that early November, or it could

924
01:08:33.199 --> 01:08:38.399
be later than that, but you
know it the pressures off the plant at

925
01:08:38.439 --> 01:08:42.399
that time, and you have the
most weeks until it gets hot again.

926
01:08:42.960 --> 01:08:45.960
Yeah. I was just mainly concerned
if it had a tap root, because

927
01:08:45.159 --> 01:08:49.960
that those are harder to get to, you know. Yeah, I'm gonna

928
01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:54.680
have to check to be sure on
that. I just all right, well,

929
01:08:54.760 --> 01:08:58.359
I can wait till later. I
mean, it's not a big rush,

930
01:08:58.439 --> 01:09:01.079
it's not in a section where you
know it's going to be a problem.

931
01:09:01.159 --> 01:09:05.760
So I just uh discovered it.
And I noticed that my neighbors that

932
01:09:05.880 --> 01:09:10.399
we well we all up here have
at least five or ten acres and I've

933
01:09:10.479 --> 01:09:14.239
noticed some of these that are really
large that have grown up. And it's

934
01:09:14.479 --> 01:09:17.920
it's the cedar juniper type plant.
You know, it's dark green, and

935
01:09:18.039 --> 01:09:23.840
it's got the little thorny kind of
branches, you know. Okay, yeah,

936
01:09:24.359 --> 01:09:29.439
so yeah, it really looks pretty. It's grown, you know.

937
01:09:29.920 --> 01:09:31.840
Uh. Like I said, I
just discovered it this winter, when you

938
01:09:31.920 --> 01:09:35.239
know, everything gets deciduous and then
I can go wander through the woods and

939
01:09:35.319 --> 01:09:40.000
I can see, you know,
what's still green. Yeah. Well,

940
01:09:40.039 --> 01:09:43.520
good, well, good luck all
right then, So thank you very much,

941
01:09:43.920 --> 01:09:45.880
Thank you for the colle Jim appreciate
that. Let's head out now to

942
01:09:46.279 --> 01:09:51.760
rich in Spring. Hello Rich,
good morning, Skip. We're looking for

943
01:09:53.279 --> 01:10:00.560
a non selective herbicide that is faster
acting than the normal forty one percent states

944
01:10:01.359 --> 01:10:06.439
faster. Okay, what are you
trying to kill? Just normal weeds?

945
01:10:06.479 --> 01:10:11.039
I don't want to wait. It
seems like it's ten to fourteen days when

946
01:10:11.079 --> 01:10:15.039
I spray, you know, with
your normal product, and it takes a

947
01:10:15.119 --> 01:10:19.079
long time for him to start wilting
and then dying. I'm just looking for

948
01:10:19.199 --> 01:10:28.079
something quicker. There used to be
a product called Finale that was faster.

949
01:10:29.239 --> 01:10:33.520
It didn't it didn't translocate quite as
well down as glypha sate did, but

950
01:10:33.720 --> 01:10:36.239
that would be it now. Certainly, like if you're just trying to burn

951
01:10:36.319 --> 01:10:41.039
the top of annual weeds and not
that generally kills them, then a vinegar

952
01:10:41.119 --> 01:10:44.479
product is about as fast as you
can get on a hot sunny day.

953
01:10:44.520 --> 01:10:47.239
You put it out and it just
fries the top pretty quick. Um.

954
01:10:49.199 --> 01:10:55.720
It's trying to think of other things
for that that would be faster but also

955
01:10:55.920 --> 01:11:01.000
still be effective that you know,
if it's grasses, the products that grass

956
01:11:01.520 --> 01:11:06.119
control products only that have sethoxiden in
them, or they're reasonably fast. So

957
01:11:06.600 --> 01:11:09.840
I don't know that that's where I
would go with it. I think,

958
01:11:10.960 --> 01:11:13.640
Okay, I appreciate your helps,
kid, Thank you all right, good

959
01:11:13.720 --> 01:11:17.159
luck with that. You are listening
to garden Line. I am your host,

960
01:11:17.319 --> 01:11:20.720
Skip Richter, and we are here
to answer your gardening questions. If

961
01:11:20.800 --> 01:11:25.840
you want to give us a call, the number is seven one three two

962
01:11:25.960 --> 01:11:43.479
one two five eight seven four.
You are listening to garden Line. We

963
01:11:43.840 --> 01:11:47.239
are having a blast today answering your
gardening questions and just really getting into the

964
01:11:47.640 --> 01:11:50.720
down and dirty of all kinds of
things gardening. Let's head out to pair

965
01:11:50.880 --> 01:11:55.399
Land and we're going to talk to
Kevin. Good morning, Kevin, Hey,

966
01:11:55.479 --> 01:11:58.840
good morning, Skid, that life's
caller. I think he was onto

967
01:11:58.920 --> 01:12:00.960
something because I've been saying it for
a while. I'm not going to name

968
01:12:01.039 --> 01:12:03.600
the product, but I think we
all know what it is. That's a

969
01:12:03.680 --> 01:12:08.319
weak killer. I don't know if
they've watered it down, but it does

970
01:12:08.399 --> 01:12:14.560
not work anymore. I started using
just straight vinegar, you know, five

971
01:12:14.640 --> 01:12:19.279
percent acidity in my garden sprayer,
you know, just for driveway weeds and

972
01:12:19.359 --> 01:12:25.199
stuff like that, and that works
and it's organic. But the other product

973
01:12:25.239 --> 01:12:28.760
that the gentleman was talking about,
I think they just I think it's water

974
01:12:28.920 --> 01:12:30.920
now. Honestly, well, that's
interesting. You know, the vinegar does

975
01:12:31.000 --> 01:12:34.800
if it's if it's strong enough,
about eight to ten percent would be what

976
01:12:34.920 --> 01:12:38.760
i'd aim for. I mean,
go stronger, but it just I guess

977
01:12:38.880 --> 01:12:42.960
vinegar actually becomes more dangerous as you
someone who's talking to me the other day

978
01:12:42.960 --> 01:12:45.600
about a thirty percent vinegar, Well, I wouldn't want to splash that in

979
01:12:45.720 --> 01:12:49.239
my eyes. Yeah that'll burn.
The extra extra careful, but yeah,

980
01:12:49.279 --> 01:12:53.640
that works. There's also since you're
talking about that, I appreciate the call

981
01:12:53.720 --> 01:12:59.439
coming. There's also now products that
are made with other compounds that top burn.

982
01:12:59.560 --> 01:13:02.560
There's a a soap based weed control
product. In other words, it's

983
01:13:02.600 --> 01:13:06.560
a it's not insecticidal soap, it's
a soap made to burn plants. And

984
01:13:08.119 --> 01:13:13.439
there are there's products that contain the
natural ingredient eugenol and others that are used

985
01:13:13.479 --> 01:13:15.760
as a top burn. So as
long as it's not a perennial weed where

986
01:13:15.800 --> 01:13:19.000
it can come back from the ground, you fry the top back on an

987
01:13:19.039 --> 01:13:24.119
annual weed and you get rid of
it. I mixed in a little bit

988
01:13:24.159 --> 01:13:27.720
at dawn dish soap with the with
the vinegar. You know, just to

989
01:13:27.760 --> 01:13:31.199
give it that surfactant you stickiness to
it, yea, And I mean it

990
01:13:31.319 --> 01:13:35.840
actually works great and it's cheap.
Yeah, well, that's yeah. I

991
01:13:35.880 --> 01:13:40.439
appreciate that that that a few drops
of dish soap is good. You can

992
01:13:40.479 --> 01:13:44.800
also just buy a commercial surfactant that
are designed for that, but uh,

993
01:13:45.039 --> 01:13:46.960
that that does help it stick.
And for those of you listen, and

994
01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:50.680
I'm kind of going outside the call
here, but whenever you're using a top

995
01:13:50.720 --> 01:13:56.279
burn product like vinegar, it's best
if the weather's warm, the sun is

996
01:13:56.319 --> 01:13:59.640
shining baking down on the plant.
It works so much faster. If it's

997
01:13:59.640 --> 01:14:03.560
fifty degrees outside and it's misty and
cloudy and overcast, it doesn't work as

998
01:14:03.680 --> 01:14:08.399
fast and as well as if you
if you do it on good hot sunny

999
01:14:08.520 --> 01:14:11.680
day. Thank you for that call, Kevin. You're listening to Garden Line

1000
01:14:11.800 --> 01:14:16.319
our number seven one three two one
two fifty eight seventy four. Now we're

1001
01:14:16.359 --> 01:14:19.920
going to head out and talk to
Melanie and Lamarck. Hello, Melanie,

1002
01:14:20.960 --> 01:14:26.039
good morning. I called you a
couple of weeks ago because my pumpkin plants

1003
01:14:26.039 --> 01:14:30.239
as making mail flowers and no female
flowers. Good news is is I've got

1004
01:14:30.319 --> 01:14:36.399
some pumpkins coming, but is my
leaves are starting to yellow and brown,

1005
01:14:36.520 --> 01:14:42.119
and I don't know what's going on. What's going on is probably powdery milde.

1006
01:14:42.760 --> 01:14:45.079
It's some type of a foliage disease. But that sounds like powdery milde,

1007
01:14:45.239 --> 01:14:48.560
and you need to treat it as
quick as you can. When it

1008
01:14:48.680 --> 01:14:53.039
takes all the foliage away, it
takes all the ability for the plant to

1009
01:14:53.079 --> 01:14:56.520
produce carbohydrates, which is what you
need to make a good pumpkin. And

1010
01:14:57.000 --> 01:15:00.319
so would I would begin to use
a spray for the Do you garden organically

1011
01:15:00.479 --> 01:15:05.520
or you know, just whatever it
takes, or what's your approach, whatever

1012
01:15:05.640 --> 01:15:10.680
it takes, whatever it takes.
Okay, all right, Well, there

1013
01:15:10.760 --> 01:15:14.920
are products when when you head out
to a garden center you know in your

1014
01:15:15.000 --> 01:15:19.199
area that carries a wide variety of
things. Look for a product labeled for

1015
01:15:20.159 --> 01:15:26.199
vegetables that is that will control powdery
mild. It'll be a fungicide, and

1016
01:15:26.399 --> 01:15:30.279
there's a number of different chemistries out
there on the market that can do that.

1017
01:15:30.479 --> 01:15:33.079
But you just want to make sure
it's labeled for the vegetables and you

1018
01:15:33.159 --> 01:15:39.319
can do pretty good. I have
found pretty good success on with a powdery

1019
01:15:39.359 --> 01:15:45.359
mildew at using kneeme oil. Now
that's an organic, but kneem oil spray.

1020
01:15:45.680 --> 01:15:47.039
You just don't want to spray too
strong, you know, and mix

1021
01:15:47.079 --> 01:15:49.640
it too strong, you know,
spread in the hot sun. But kneem

1022
01:15:49.680 --> 01:15:57.399
oil is a very good organic product
for powdery mildew. Okay, I'll try

1023
01:15:57.479 --> 01:15:59.880
that, thank you very much,
but just remember you're gonna have to whatever

1024
01:16:00.039 --> 01:16:01.399
you use, you're gonna have to
do retreating. But you want to protect

1025
01:16:01.439 --> 01:16:06.479
that foliage. Thank you for the
call, Melanie. Thank you. Let's

1026
01:16:06.520 --> 01:16:11.399
head out now to friends Wood.
I'm going to talk to Carolyn this morning.

1027
01:16:11.520 --> 01:16:17.560
Good morning Carolyn, Good morning Skip. I received as a gift a

1028
01:16:18.760 --> 01:16:23.960
peace lily, and so after I
had had it for a few days,

1029
01:16:24.079 --> 01:16:28.359
and it's big, it's a big
plant. It came wealthy looking, so

1030
01:16:28.520 --> 01:16:32.359
I decided to plant to water it. Well, that perked it up for

1031
01:16:32.439 --> 01:16:35.920
a day or two, and then
it went back to being wealthy. So

1032
01:16:36.039 --> 01:16:42.680
I decided to repot it, and
I bought a nice pot and I planted

1033
01:16:42.720 --> 01:16:50.119
it in rose soil. Okay,
well, now it is just so droopy

1034
01:16:51.159 --> 01:16:55.600
that I'm gonna I don't know what
to do. Now. That's interesting,

1035
01:16:55.680 --> 01:17:01.880
and I have a moisture meter that
I use and it says it's moist Yeah,

1036
01:17:02.199 --> 01:17:06.439
I'm just stumped. Piece lilies or
they're they're a challenge. I've had

1037
01:17:06.520 --> 01:17:13.239
one that has just struggled for a
couple of years, and I was always

1038
01:17:13.279 --> 01:17:15.560
like, is it too wet,
is it too dry? You stick your

1039
01:17:15.600 --> 01:17:17.319
finger in the soil, or trying
to figure it out. When you repotted

1040
01:17:17.399 --> 01:17:21.199
this one, did you notice where
they're healthy, creamy colored roots on the

1041
01:17:21.279 --> 01:17:27.039
outside or where they kind of brown
and water soaked looking. They were kind

1042
01:17:27.079 --> 01:17:30.960
of brown and hard hard. Okay, so what what's happened is you've had

1043
01:17:31.000 --> 01:17:35.800
a root death on the plant and
that can be caused by saggy, wet

1044
01:17:35.920 --> 01:17:41.359
conditions. It piece lily. The
good thing about it is it takes as

1045
01:17:41.520 --> 01:17:45.920
lower light, just about as any
plant in the house can take. But

1046
01:17:45.119 --> 01:17:49.159
when you get it or light,
the water use just really slows down,

1047
01:17:49.680 --> 01:17:53.439
and so you want to be careful
not to overwater it. I would make

1048
01:17:53.479 --> 01:17:59.079
sure when you repot with something like
that, I would use a looser mix

1049
01:17:59.600 --> 01:18:03.960
that's not as heavy and mucky,
just to provide optimum drainage in the soil.

1050
01:18:04.479 --> 01:18:08.640
Uh, And then I would stick
my finger in the soil. I

1051
01:18:08.720 --> 01:18:11.199
mean you can see do it with
a finger. You can sharpen a pencil

1052
01:18:11.399 --> 01:18:14.640
and stick it down a couple of
inches down in the soil. Pull it

1053
01:18:14.760 --> 01:18:18.239
out and you'll see if the sharpened
in the wood part is wet or stained,

1054
01:18:18.359 --> 01:18:20.960
or if there's soil clinging to it. Kind of like you know how

1055
01:18:21.000 --> 01:18:25.079
you use a toothpick when you're trying
to see if a poundcakes are ready to

1056
01:18:25.159 --> 01:18:28.680
come out of the out of the
air. It's sort of like that when

1057
01:18:28.760 --> 01:18:30.439
stuff's clinging that a pencil can.
If you don't want to get your finger

1058
01:18:30.520 --> 01:18:33.479
dirty, that's that's a way to
do it. But I think getting the

1059
01:18:33.920 --> 01:18:41.119
getting the soil moisture right is the
key. And it sounds like I'm sorry,

1060
01:18:41.239 --> 01:18:45.199
go ahead. It sounds like you
maybe you can. Those are pretty

1061
01:18:45.239 --> 01:18:51.239
good. That depends on the science
behind how that particular meter you buy works.

1062
01:18:51.399 --> 01:18:55.640
Some of them are pretty accurate,
some of them are not so accurate.

1063
01:18:55.880 --> 01:18:59.560
So uh, just you know,
you kind of use all the above.

1064
01:18:59.800 --> 01:19:01.640
You know what I use as mine's
in a plastic pot. So I

1065
01:19:01.720 --> 01:19:04.439
picked the pot up and I can
tell the minute I pick it up if

1066
01:19:04.479 --> 01:19:09.079
it's light, very lightweight compared to
what it is when sweat. That's how

1067
01:19:09.119 --> 01:19:12.640
I tell how much water's in it, because it works pretty good for me.

1068
01:19:12.880 --> 01:19:16.640
So maybe try try all the above
and try to settle in. Would

1069
01:19:16.640 --> 01:19:20.720
you at this point if you were
made, how long ago did you repot

1070
01:19:20.800 --> 01:19:26.760
it? Oh? About two weeks
ago or a week ago? Maybe no,

1071
01:19:27.000 --> 01:19:29.000
but it's been two weeks. You
know, if you feel like you

1072
01:19:29.199 --> 01:19:31.800
use some cheap, mucky potting soil, I would. If you feel like

1073
01:19:31.880 --> 01:19:38.359
you used a decent soil, then
I would not at this time of that,

1074
01:19:38.520 --> 01:19:40.720
right, you told me the rose
soil. Yeah, that's that's fine.

1075
01:19:40.800 --> 01:19:45.119
That should work fine for it.
I shouldn't be careful on the water.

1076
01:19:45.279 --> 01:19:46.359
Oh, I don't know what to
do with it now. It just

1077
01:19:46.560 --> 01:19:53.319
looks it's just droopy. And yeah, yeah, well I would pull I'd

1078
01:19:53.439 --> 01:19:56.279
lay the pot over, pull it
out and just get a look at the

1079
01:19:56.399 --> 01:20:00.840
roots and soil and see what you
see going on. If it's drooping,

1080
01:20:00.439 --> 01:20:04.880
it doesn't have a good root system. The root system has died from either

1081
01:20:04.960 --> 01:20:11.119
drought or saggy conditions, and so
you know, you got to get a

1082
01:20:11.159 --> 01:20:14.960
good root system on it. There
are drenches of fungicides that can fight root

1083
01:20:15.079 --> 01:20:17.920
rot, but the real problem is
soil moisture, and so somehow you got

1084
01:20:18.039 --> 01:20:23.960
to figure out how to get that
right. Boy, I tell you I

1085
01:20:24.079 --> 01:20:29.239
have friends that have had these things
for twenty five years that they're still wonderful.

1086
01:20:29.239 --> 01:20:33.680
And I get this going on.
I'm a professional horticultures and I just

1087
01:20:33.800 --> 01:20:38.000
admitted to you that I've had one
I struggled with. Of course, I'm

1088
01:20:38.039 --> 01:20:40.760
not taking care of it, you
know, the cobbler's kids go barefoot at

1089
01:20:40.800 --> 01:20:45.439
my house, but when it comes
to Paris. But I moved it to

1090
01:20:45.560 --> 01:20:48.880
a different location and start watering a
little more and it's doing better. And

1091
01:20:49.039 --> 01:20:53.640
so I guess I was keeping a
little too dry. I don't know anyway,

1092
01:20:54.079 --> 01:21:00.600
good luck with that. Thank you
for the calls. I'm gonna go

1093
01:21:00.600 --> 01:21:02.560
out to Montgomery and talk to Terry. Terry I got, I got about

1094
01:21:02.600 --> 01:21:04.840
one minute, so let's see if
we can do this. If not,

1095
01:21:04.960 --> 01:21:10.000
we'll hold you over pass break.
Hi, thanks for taking my call.

1096
01:21:10.640 --> 01:21:15.960
I've got some black powdery mildew growing
on my Saint Augustine in the front yard

1097
01:21:16.159 --> 01:21:20.119
and it's flotchet but I think it's
spreading. Do you know what it is?

1098
01:21:20.479 --> 01:21:24.600
I do, and it's nothing to
worry about. It is a fungus

1099
01:21:24.760 --> 01:21:30.720
growing on the surface of the Saint
Augustine and it will dry and it'll turn

1100
01:21:30.800 --> 01:21:32.640
kind of a grayish color, and
when you mow you may see some dust

1101
01:21:32.800 --> 01:21:36.920
that's the spores of it. It's
ubiquitous in nature. When conditions you're right,

1102
01:21:38.000 --> 01:21:41.479
it takes off. You can squirt
it with a hose and blast it

1103
01:21:41.560 --> 01:21:45.399
off. It is not a disease
that's in the plant. So good news.

1104
01:21:45.680 --> 01:21:48.039
Oh that is very good to hear. And we did that in less

1105
01:21:48.079 --> 01:21:51.640
than one minute. I'm amazed.
Well you did your part. Thank you,

1106
01:21:51.800 --> 01:21:55.399
Terry. I appreciate that. Thank
you. Have a great day.

1107
01:21:55.520 --> 01:22:00.640
Thanks for your thank Bye. Steve
will get to you when we get back

1108
01:22:00.680 --> 01:22:15.960
from break. Well. Good Saturday
morning, on a good day for talking

1109
01:22:15.960 --> 01:22:19.560
about gardening and also forgetting not in
doing some gardening. You're listening to garden

1110
01:22:19.600 --> 01:22:23.279
Line. I'm your host, Skip
Rector and our number. Write this down

1111
01:22:23.520 --> 01:22:28.319
seven one three, two one two
five eight seven four seven one three two

1112
01:22:28.359 --> 01:22:32.479
and two fifty eight seventy four.
We are going to head out to northwest

1113
01:22:32.520 --> 01:22:39.119
Houston now and talk to Steve.
Hello, Steve, Hi, excudum.

1114
01:22:40.279 --> 01:22:50.680
My question about lawn fertilization. It's
about organic versus SYNTHETI now I use an

1115
01:22:50.840 --> 01:22:59.640
organic fertilizer, you know, microlife, and I just one year take on

1116
01:23:00.039 --> 01:23:04.079
organic works synthetic you know the nitro
foals y'all tend to promote a lot or

1117
01:23:04.439 --> 01:23:13.680
you know brands like Scots which a
lot of people use. Um, that's

1118
01:23:13.800 --> 01:23:17.039
my question. Okay, So like, well, I think I understand what

1119
01:23:17.119 --> 01:23:19.760
you're asking. So let me see. I'll find out here in a minute.

1120
01:23:20.760 --> 01:23:25.760
The fertilizers we talked about on this
show are fertilizers that I personally have

1121
01:23:26.039 --> 01:23:30.920
used and they work. That they
work. Some people are not organic in

1122
01:23:31.039 --> 01:23:38.720
their approach, and so the synthetics
provide the advantage of uh some special chemistries

1123
01:23:38.840 --> 01:23:43.800
that control the release a little bit
more perhaps, or they just they just

1124
01:23:43.960 --> 01:23:48.520
provide a variation in the nutrient content
as we go through the season. You

1125
01:23:48.640 --> 01:23:53.760
can choose different different lines and things. But that's available pretty much in their

1126
01:23:53.840 --> 01:23:58.119
organics too. The organics are going
to slowly decompose due to microbial activity,

1127
01:23:58.640 --> 01:24:02.800
and so a lot of folks are
interested in gardening organically. And you may

1128
01:24:02.880 --> 01:24:06.279
notice that some of the products we're
talking about, like nitrofiles, for example,

1129
01:24:06.319 --> 01:24:10.920
they have their own organic version as
does Nelson plant food, And so

1130
01:24:11.960 --> 01:24:14.840
it's kind of your choice as to
how you want to garden, how you

1131
01:24:14.880 --> 01:24:17.119
want to approach that. But if
you hear me talking about it, I've

1132
01:24:17.159 --> 01:24:21.000
tried it. It works, and
so I have no hesitation recommending it.

1133
01:24:24.039 --> 01:24:29.840
Okay. I have just always heard
about some synthetic fertilizers that they're kind of

1134
01:24:29.960 --> 01:24:34.640
bad for the soil over time.
I don't know how true that is.

1135
01:24:35.399 --> 01:24:42.359
I know I have restarted my lawn
some I don't know, eighteen years ago,

1136
01:24:43.840 --> 01:24:45.800
and of course, when of the
lawn is new, it may look

1137
01:24:45.880 --> 01:24:50.520
beautiful. I sit outside is look
at it. But it seems like every

1138
01:24:50.600 --> 01:24:59.399
year my lawn quality seems to erode
a little bit. Now, maybe I

1139
01:24:59.439 --> 01:25:01.279
have a soul oil issue. Maybe
I need to have someone come out and

1140
01:25:01.319 --> 01:25:05.000
check my soil. And yeah,
well, if you have somebody, you

1141
01:25:05.079 --> 01:25:09.479
know, what do you recommend as
far as that goes, as far as

1142
01:25:09.560 --> 01:25:12.319
checking your soil, well, as
far as soil is concerned, a soil

1143
01:25:12.359 --> 01:25:17.239
test, you can go to a
soil testing dot TAMU dot edu and find

1144
01:25:17.279 --> 01:25:24.079
out if something yeah, yeah,
soil testing one word, uh some if

1145
01:25:24.119 --> 01:25:27.600
something is out of balance, that
could be a problem and you could have

1146
01:25:27.800 --> 01:25:30.800
that with organic product, you have
that with a synthetic product. I mean,

1147
01:25:30.880 --> 01:25:34.720
out of balance is out of balance, right, and so fertilizing based

1148
01:25:34.720 --> 01:25:38.399
on a soil test is a good
idea, you know, as far as

1149
01:25:38.479 --> 01:25:41.399
the other though, it really comes
down to what you want to use.

1150
01:25:41.439 --> 01:25:44.479
I mean, we could talk about
this for an hour, really drilling down

1151
01:25:44.560 --> 01:25:48.039
into all the details. But if
you if you properly take care of your

1152
01:25:48.079 --> 01:25:54.199
lawn, whether the fertilizers coming from
organic or synthetic, the nutrients of plants

1153
01:25:54.279 --> 01:25:57.319
take up or the same. The
difference is with the synthetics, it's a

1154
01:25:57.399 --> 01:26:02.000
salt based fertilizer with the organics just
coming from something that was once alive,

1155
01:26:02.159 --> 01:26:09.439
a living material, typically plant based, and uh that is releasing those nutrients

1156
01:26:09.520 --> 01:26:14.119
back into the soil gradually over time, so you can have a beautiful lawn

1157
01:26:14.159 --> 01:26:16.880
either way, you decide what your
preference is. If you're not happy with

1158
01:26:17.000 --> 01:26:20.520
what you've been using, then switch
try something else and see see how that

1159
01:26:20.640 --> 01:26:27.479
works. Okay, okay, okay, um, all right, well,

1160
01:26:27.960 --> 01:26:30.279
goodn thank you so much for the
information. All right. I hope that's

1161
01:26:30.319 --> 01:26:34.640
helpful. I know that the whole
organic synthetic it's a can of worms,

1162
01:26:34.800 --> 01:26:39.239
and and there's there's a lot I
can say about it. And I don't

1163
01:26:39.319 --> 01:26:42.920
mean to say that nothing, nothing
matters or anything. I'm just saying that

1164
01:26:43.000 --> 01:26:47.199
I see people have success with both
ways, and and my approach here is

1165
01:26:47.960 --> 01:26:50.840
you tell me how you want a
garden, and I will guide you in

1166
01:26:51.239 --> 01:26:56.760
having success with that that way.
Uh. And so I hope we'll come

1167
01:26:56.760 --> 01:27:00.279
across that way. I personally,
I use a lot of organic products in

1168
01:27:00.479 --> 01:27:03.600
my lawn and landscape, but I
just like to use them. I love

1169
01:27:03.640 --> 01:27:06.920
them. It's not I wouldn't say
I would never use a synthetic at all.

1170
01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:13.000
I'd also use that, but it's
you know, it's your preference,

1171
01:27:13.199 --> 01:27:17.279
and uh. You know everybody is
going to have a reason. Uh.

1172
01:27:17.479 --> 01:27:21.239
And you'll hear a lot of arguments
for one way or the other. I'm

1173
01:27:21.279 --> 01:27:26.720
not going to get into all that
today or on the show even It's just

1174
01:27:27.159 --> 01:27:29.960
know that if I'm recommending it,
it's something I've used and it works.

1175
01:27:30.640 --> 01:27:33.359
Let's head out now to Tom Ball
and we're gonna talk to Ken. Good

1176
01:27:33.399 --> 01:27:41.199
morning, Ken, Good morning,
I've got Uh. We moved my mother

1177
01:27:41.279 --> 01:27:45.600
in law down from Dallas recently,
and we brought a rosebush with us and

1178
01:27:46.039 --> 01:27:51.920
transplanted it. So just last week
we put it in the ground and it's

1179
01:27:51.960 --> 01:27:59.279
looking pretty poorly, and I was
thinking maybe a root stimulator. Oh yeah,

1180
01:27:59.319 --> 01:28:00.399
you could give it a shot on
that. I mean, I'm sure

1181
01:28:00.439 --> 01:28:02.960
the transplanting. Was it in a
pot up there? Did you have to

1182
01:28:03.039 --> 01:28:10.159
dig it up up there? No? Okay, well yeah, it has

1183
01:28:10.199 --> 01:28:13.560
a lot of reason to be unhappy
right now. But um, you just

1184
01:28:13.680 --> 01:28:17.680
want to keep the soil moist without
keeping it soggy wet. Hopefully you put

1185
01:28:17.720 --> 01:28:24.880
it in a rose soil. If
you didn't, I would today, uh

1186
01:28:25.279 --> 01:28:27.680
pull it up, get some good
rose soil to put it on, and

1187
01:28:27.920 --> 01:28:33.039
enhance the soil quality in the bed. Keep those roots moist, good,

1188
01:28:33.159 --> 01:28:36.359
good, Okay, Yeah, you're
doing all you can. Just keep it

1189
01:28:36.520 --> 01:28:41.039
moist. I don't know if if
you know, I didn't see it when

1190
01:28:41.079 --> 01:28:43.239
you dug it. I didn't see
the size and the amount of roots and

1191
01:28:43.279 --> 01:28:46.880
all that. But maybe there's not
quite enough roots for it to just keep

1192
01:28:46.960 --> 01:28:50.439
going pretty well. So I would
even consider throwing a little bit of a

1193
01:28:50.439 --> 01:28:53.960
shade over it a bit and just
kind of giving it. When it's a

1194
01:28:54.039 --> 01:28:57.159
real hot sunny day, do a
little shake cloth or something. And just

1195
01:28:57.319 --> 01:29:00.159
give it some time to kind of
get some roots in. You don't want

1196
01:29:00.159 --> 01:29:02.560
to block the light, but you
just want to kind of let's reduce the

1197
01:29:02.680 --> 01:29:06.079
demands on it a little bit.
That might help. Overall. I think

1198
01:29:06.159 --> 01:29:10.920
you're going to be fine. It
just it's gonna pout for a while and

1199
01:29:11.039 --> 01:29:14.840
may even decline and get some dead
branches. But if you keep the soul

1200
01:29:14.920 --> 01:29:17.600
moisture moderate and then give it some
fertilizer, it's going to do well.

1201
01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:20.159
Hey, Ken, I got to
run to a break, but I hope

1202
01:29:20.199 --> 01:29:25.079
that is helpful for you. You're
listening to garden line seven one three two

1203
01:29:25.119 --> 01:29:38.239
one two fifty eight seventy four.
Well, good Saturday morning, A good

1204
01:29:38.319 --> 01:29:42.560
day for gardening, good day for
talking about gardeners. We've been talking a

1205
01:29:42.600 --> 01:29:45.439
lot about fertilizers and lawns, and
I think lawns is the kind of the

1206
01:29:46.279 --> 01:29:50.600
topic of the day. It seems
like today as most days. If you're

1207
01:29:50.680 --> 01:29:56.199
familiar with Nitrofos products, are you
familiar with their Superturf. That's the nineteen

1208
01:29:56.319 --> 01:30:02.359
fourteen Nitrofis Superturf is designed for summertime. They triple guarantee it keep the grass

1209
01:30:02.399 --> 01:30:09.119
green longer, reduces mowing requirements and
reduces brown patch problems in Saint Augustine as

1210
01:30:09.159 --> 01:30:13.199
we get later in the season.
And the reason is we're gradually fertilizing with

1211
01:30:13.479 --> 01:30:17.800
Superturf nineteen four ten. It's feeding
over a full twelve to sixteen weeks.

1212
01:30:18.159 --> 01:30:24.039
It's cutting down on those problems because
we're not overdoing the fertilizer. You'll find

1213
01:30:24.119 --> 01:30:28.079
nitrofosts anywhere. Nitrofost products are sold, of course, but you can call

1214
01:30:28.119 --> 01:30:31.680
them seven one, three two to
eight eighteen sixty eight, or head out

1215
01:30:31.720 --> 01:30:35.560
to one of the many ACE hardwares
all over the Greater Houston area for your

1216
01:30:35.640 --> 01:30:43.279
nitrofost Superturf. All right, I
think I'm going to head out to Crosby

1217
01:30:43.600 --> 01:30:45.560
and we're going to talk to Barbara
right now. Good morning, Barbara,

1218
01:30:46.560 --> 01:30:50.039
Hey, good morning, so nice
to talk to you as well. I

1219
01:30:50.199 --> 01:30:58.079
have a I have a brand new
hummingbird butterfly garden. It's a good size,

1220
01:30:58.199 --> 01:31:01.560
some shape, and I have high
hopes for it. It's real pretty

1221
01:31:01.600 --> 01:31:06.159
so far. I've packed it with
perennials that will bloom. My problem is

1222
01:31:08.039 --> 01:31:12.359
weeds. I can't molt it.
It's a two part question. I can't

1223
01:31:12.399 --> 01:31:15.039
vult it because they have chickens and
they're going to relocate anything that's loosed.

1224
01:31:15.520 --> 01:31:20.319
So I'm looking for the definitive ground
come. Oh. I also have milkweeds

1225
01:31:20.359 --> 01:31:25.319
for the butterflies. So far,
I hadn't brought one to maturity because kickings

1226
01:31:25.399 --> 01:31:28.359
like to hop up and pick those
things off. I think I've got a

1227
01:31:28.520 --> 01:31:32.760
busset for the chickens. But anyway, I'm looking for the definitive ground cover.

1228
01:31:33.479 --> 01:31:38.479
See what comes to mind for you, something low growing, doesn't have

1229
01:31:38.560 --> 01:31:43.840
to bloom. I was thinking of
just letting the dichondra go, But what

1230
01:31:44.000 --> 01:31:46.359
can I buy? Anything come to
mind? Maybe that blooms? Oh boy,

1231
01:31:47.199 --> 01:31:49.199
Well, first of all, you
need to give your chickens a good

1232
01:31:49.239 --> 01:31:55.319
talking to you. This is unacceptable
behavior and they need to know that feeding

1233
01:31:55.439 --> 01:31:59.159
them you're being good to them.
As long as they're turning it into eggs,

1234
01:31:59.199 --> 01:32:00.920
I'm gonna let it have all.
Right, there you go. You

1235
01:32:01.000 --> 01:32:04.319
know the problem when you put in
plants, it's it's yes, you're cutting

1236
01:32:04.319 --> 01:32:08.920
down on weeds, but essentially those
plants become a weed to the to the

1237
01:32:09.039 --> 01:32:13.119
other plants. You know what I'm
saying that their competition growing together U s

1238
01:32:13.359 --> 01:32:15.760
for blooms. This is a real
good sunlight obviously, because you got good

1239
01:32:15.760 --> 01:32:20.279
blooming plants that are in and out
there. Uh there is see what would

1240
01:32:20.279 --> 01:32:26.880
be a good option. There is
a Oh my gosh, my mind is

1241
01:32:26.960 --> 01:32:30.439
drawing a blank on the plant I'm
trying to say, and it'll occur to

1242
01:32:30.479 --> 01:32:32.640
me a minute. Oh my god. Anyway, I'm gonna I'm gonna have

1243
01:32:32.680 --> 01:32:36.880
to draw a blank on that right
now, the one somebody's listening and they're

1244
01:32:36.920 --> 01:32:42.119
gonna come up with the ideal logo
and ground cover to put in between all

1245
01:32:42.159 --> 01:32:45.720
of these bernials, and they're gonna
they're gonna tell me about it, and

1246
01:32:45.800 --> 01:32:47.840
you're gonna remember it at the same
time, while I kicked myself, that's

1247
01:32:47.840 --> 01:32:51.199
the nice thing. I only have
what how many million people live around here

1248
01:32:51.279 --> 01:32:57.439
that could call and and straighten me
out. Yeah, the work if I

1249
01:32:57.560 --> 01:33:00.680
have another question. But by the
way, I thought about of one thing.

1250
01:33:00.800 --> 01:33:04.680
It's blue shade, blue shade ruellia. Uh there that that would be

1251
01:33:04.920 --> 01:33:08.560
a good one that you might want
to try. And it's not the kind

1252
01:33:08.600 --> 01:33:13.000
of ruelia that just gets big and
throw seeds all over the creation. This

1253
01:33:13.159 --> 01:33:18.239
is a low growing, spreading plant
and there's also a blue days da ze

1254
01:33:19.000 --> 01:33:24.439
volvulus blue days. It's a little
bit wet for the blue days. That,

1255
01:33:25.840 --> 01:33:30.399
yeah, it's a little bit too
wet. Forts um, all right,

1256
01:33:30.760 --> 01:33:32.760
I've found one and I can't remember
the name of it either. I

1257
01:33:32.880 --> 01:33:38.359
was gonna going to toss it out
there. I'm leaving the little tags on

1258
01:33:38.520 --> 01:33:42.039
everything, so whatever makes it through
the winter, I'm going to concentrate on

1259
01:33:42.199 --> 01:33:45.399
that next spring. But I'm planting
everything, a little bit of everything I

1260
01:33:45.479 --> 01:33:48.359
can think of that attracts humming virgins, butterflies, you know. You know

1261
01:33:48.399 --> 01:33:51.319
what hey, let me one second, sorry, Barb. You know what

1262
01:33:51.439 --> 01:33:56.479
I would do is I would look
at an herb ground cover. A regano

1263
01:33:56.920 --> 01:34:03.359
spreads the low prostrate grow prostrate run
uh. Regonos marjoram as a similar kind

1264
01:34:03.399 --> 01:34:06.880
of growth habit uh. You know, there's a reganos that more come more

1265
01:34:08.000 --> 01:34:10.920
upright, But I'm talking about the
ones that spread. They spread far and

1266
01:34:11.000 --> 01:34:14.119
wide and they do well. And
one other plant see has as my brain

1267
01:34:14.239 --> 01:34:18.760
kicks in, I start imagining plants
here. Another one is called um uh

1268
01:34:19.039 --> 01:34:23.960
frog fruit, and it is it
is like a lot of weed. But

1269
01:34:24.199 --> 01:34:30.000
people have just heard about frog people. That's that's a thing. I've been

1270
01:34:30.159 --> 01:34:34.439
pulling that up. I have seen, I know I have seen. I've

1271
01:34:34.479 --> 01:34:40.760
seen entire yards of frog fruit in
Houston, not not like you know,

1272
01:34:40.920 --> 01:34:46.920
five acres. Yeah. Well,
Dichondra is a law is a lawn weedy

1273
01:34:47.159 --> 01:34:51.920
in California, and we we eat
that out. Yeah it is, it

1274
01:34:53.159 --> 01:34:57.960
is for us. Dichondra doesn't form
as nice dens of a covers it as

1275
01:34:58.039 --> 01:35:00.039
it does in California. They plant
it by seed in California. But I

1276
01:35:00.119 --> 01:35:02.960
think the frog fruit would be good
because it has little blooms on it,

1277
01:35:03.039 --> 01:35:08.880
So that's going to help pollinators,
a little tiny paras wasps. I can

1278
01:35:09.000 --> 01:35:13.399
sure, I sure have some rootstock
that I can transplant there you go,

1279
01:35:13.760 --> 01:35:16.119
uh from the yard to the guard. That's a good thought. Yeah,

1280
01:35:16.239 --> 01:35:19.560
And it's easy to route little sections
so you can fill it back in pretty

1281
01:35:19.640 --> 01:35:24.600
quick with that. And in the
meantime, though, I wouldn't completely rule

1282
01:35:24.680 --> 01:35:28.760
out giving those dead gun chickens a
talking to you, because you know that.

1283
01:35:29.319 --> 01:35:32.239
All right, we'll sit down.
Listen. One quick thing. Where

1284
01:35:32.279 --> 01:35:38.039
can I get rock for decorations?
Oh gosh, you can get them all

1285
01:35:38.159 --> 01:35:41.359
kinds of places. Where are you
out in Crosby? How far would it

1286
01:35:41.439 --> 01:35:49.079
be for you to go down to
Sna Malt not too far outs around local

1287
01:35:49.199 --> 01:35:54.000
multiplaces and yards will have some rock. But you know that. Okay,

1288
01:35:54.159 --> 01:35:57.319
where's wherever's closest to you? I
don't I don't know where you go for

1289
01:35:57.399 --> 01:36:00.760
that kind of thing. Okay,
I'll check the multiplaces. If those chickens

1290
01:36:00.840 --> 01:36:03.479
can relocate the rock they got,
they deserve what they get. Listen,

1291
01:36:03.800 --> 01:36:06.760
if they can relocate the rock.
For good about eggs, you need to

1292
01:36:06.840 --> 01:36:11.760
butcher them because they're gonna have muscles
like you. Believe me, Fir,

1293
01:36:12.479 --> 01:36:16.000
you're right. Thanks for having fun, Barbara. Oh my, you're listening

1294
01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:19.199
to garden Line. I hope you're
having a good time. I sure am

1295
01:36:19.840 --> 01:36:25.680
myself right now. KTRH Garden Line
does not necessarily endorse any of the products

1296
01:36:25.760 --> 01:36:31.640
or services advertised on this program.
Welcome to KTRH Garden Line with Skip rictor

1297
01:36:41.319 --> 01:36:59.159
just watch him good morning on a
good Saturday morning. Regarding good Saturday morning

1298
01:36:59.199 --> 01:37:01.279
for listening to the ready talking about
gardening. Two. If you would like

1299
01:37:01.439 --> 01:37:06.760
to do so, write down this
number seven one three two one to five

1300
01:37:06.960 --> 01:37:13.720
eight seven four seven one three two
one two fifty eight seventy four. You

1301
01:37:13.760 --> 01:37:16.760
know I was talking about being out
at the Arburgate, and I just want

1302
01:37:16.800 --> 01:37:21.680
to mention that again. This is
next Saturday, the thirteenth, now Mother's

1303
01:37:21.760 --> 01:37:26.399
Days the fourteenth, but I'll be
out there for two hours from eleven thirty

1304
01:37:26.680 --> 01:37:29.680
to one thirty, and I hope
you'll come out and see me. Number

1305
01:37:29.720 --> 01:37:31.680
one, it's worth going to Arburgate
whether I'm there or not. But on

1306
01:37:31.800 --> 01:37:35.239
top of all that, we're gonna
be there answering your questions. We're gonna

1307
01:37:35.399 --> 01:37:39.079
you can bring in samples, bring
them in in a plastic bag. We

1308
01:37:39.159 --> 01:37:42.680
don't want to turn anything loose in
the nursery. Let me take a look

1309
01:37:42.720 --> 01:37:45.359
at it. Bring in a sample
to me to look at. If you

1310
01:37:45.520 --> 01:37:49.159
want to take pictures on your phone
and bring those in, maybe we can

1311
01:37:49.239 --> 01:37:55.920
look at identifying a plant or identifying
a problem. Just make sure your photos

1312
01:37:56.079 --> 01:37:59.359
are as close as possible. Maybe, you know, if it's an overall

1313
01:37:59.399 --> 01:38:05.039
setting, like I was talking with
someone earlier today about a I see a

1314
01:38:05.199 --> 01:38:10.319
Japanese maple tree, you know,
seeing the whole setting kind of helps to

1315
01:38:10.359 --> 01:38:13.800
assess that. But if it's anything
that I need to get a good close

1316
01:38:13.880 --> 01:38:15.640
look at, as close as you
can get, but check and make sure

1317
01:38:15.680 --> 01:38:17.920
it's in sharp focus before you bring
it, because I want to be able

1318
01:38:17.920 --> 01:38:20.920
to help you with it. That's
going to be the day before Mother's Day.

1319
01:38:20.920 --> 01:38:24.880
And by the way, when you're
out there, I promise you can

1320
01:38:24.960 --> 01:38:28.760
find eight hundred thousand things that your
mom can't live without. Now, maybe

1321
01:38:28.800 --> 01:38:30.720
she's a gardener, Oh my gosh, grab anything. It's good, it's

1322
01:38:30.760 --> 01:38:35.560
good to go. If she's not
a gardener, they're unbelievable gift shops.

1323
01:38:35.680 --> 01:38:42.399
Beverly has just set up a beautiful
show place and there's everything from cool yard

1324
01:38:42.560 --> 01:38:46.319
art to beautiful indoor gifts. Maybe
mom, you know, would like a

1325
01:38:46.680 --> 01:38:50.000
house plant, they've got them.
Maybe she like a really attractive pot for

1326
01:38:50.079 --> 01:38:54.159
the house plant. They've got that. So come out and see me next

1327
01:38:54.520 --> 01:39:00.439
Saturday, day before Mother's Day,
eleven thirty to one thirty at Arburgate.

1328
01:39:00.479 --> 01:39:02.760
And by the way, why not
bring your mom. There's an idea that

1329
01:39:02.800 --> 01:39:06.159
would work pretty cool. I think
she would enjoy it that if she hadn't

1330
01:39:06.199 --> 01:39:10.199
been out there before, I know
that she would enjoy it. We always

1331
01:39:10.239 --> 01:39:15.119
like to take family to some of
our great local complete nurseries like we have

1332
01:39:15.279 --> 01:39:19.399
here. You know, I was
talking earlier about a Nitrofoss in the bag.

1333
01:39:19.520 --> 01:39:23.680
I think we're discussing their super turf
as a summer. You know,

1334
01:39:23.880 --> 01:39:28.319
Nitrofos products are available in four pound
jars for the specialty types of things,

1335
01:39:28.399 --> 01:39:31.680
you know, the color express,
hibiscus food, plumeria food, rose food,

1336
01:39:31.720 --> 01:39:35.000
and so on. Well, this
is a very economical way a little

1337
01:39:35.039 --> 01:39:39.239
four pound jar. Maybe you just
have a couple of hibiscus plants, or

1338
01:39:39.359 --> 01:39:43.319
maybe you you know, just have
a citrus tree or two, and you

1339
01:39:43.399 --> 01:39:45.600
could just get away with a little
four pound jar as a very simple,

1340
01:39:45.680 --> 01:39:53.079
efficient, cost effective way of providing
your Nitroo products. The Nitrofos products are

1341
01:39:53.119 --> 01:39:56.840
sold everywhere. I mean they're all
over town. But if you're up in

1342
01:39:56.920 --> 01:40:01.199
Tombauld, Arbrogate and DND Feed sell
Nitrofos products. Down in the Fisher's Hardware

1343
01:40:01.239 --> 01:40:05.640
down in South Houston on Sophomore,
or the one in Laporte on Broadway Street

1344
01:40:05.960 --> 01:40:11.319
sell nitro Foss products. And then
ACE Hardware is just you know, pretty

1345
01:40:11.359 --> 01:40:15.199
much everywhere there's an ACE hardware,
you're going to find those Nitrofoss products like

1346
01:40:15.319 --> 01:40:21.720
that, like that four pound jar. You know that when we think about

1347
01:40:23.119 --> 01:40:29.760
the springtime and planting, it's just
it's hard to not be excited because there's

1348
01:40:29.840 --> 01:40:31.960
so much happening right now. The
lawns are growing. We're taking care of

1349
01:40:32.039 --> 01:40:36.359
our lawns. Our trees are growing. Any final little bit of pruning that

1350
01:40:36.479 --> 01:40:40.119
you might need, you know,
for your tree to keep them happy and

1351
01:40:40.239 --> 01:40:43.520
healthy and everything, this is a
time to get that done. There's just

1352
01:40:43.720 --> 01:40:47.319
a lot of different activities. If
you've got a vegetable garden. Our cool

1353
01:40:47.399 --> 01:40:51.199
season gardens are kind of heading out. My lettuce is bolting and it's I'm

1354
01:40:51.199 --> 01:40:57.079
about to pull it out. Got
one old old time what do you call

1355
01:40:57.159 --> 01:41:00.319
it, heirloom variety called crawford that
I grow. So I always let one

1356
01:41:00.399 --> 01:41:03.439
stalk go to seed and save the
seed because you don't see, it doesn't

1357
01:41:03.479 --> 01:41:08.279
last forever. It helps to store
it right, but it doesn't last forever,

1358
01:41:08.560 --> 01:41:12.159
and so I'll let them go to
seed. I've got my cilantro actually

1359
01:41:12.279 --> 01:41:15.119
is trying to bloom right now.
In fact, it is blooming right now,

1360
01:41:15.720 --> 01:41:17.560
and several things, and I always
leave a few of those blooms around

1361
01:41:17.720 --> 01:41:23.119
for beneficials. For example, a
carrot. Did you know that a carrot

1362
01:41:23.199 --> 01:41:27.760
blooms. It's like Queen Anne's lace, which is closely related to carrot.

1363
01:41:28.560 --> 01:41:30.359
So I'll pull all my carrots up
and I'll leave one or two at the

1364
01:41:30.439 --> 01:41:33.079
end of the row. Just let
them put up a bloom. It's pretty

1365
01:41:33.239 --> 01:41:38.399
number one. It's a good cut
flower. Actually, surprisingly enough, strange

1366
01:41:38.439 --> 01:41:43.159
reason to grow carrots, but I
think it's kind of cool. The blooms,

1367
01:41:43.199 --> 01:41:45.800
though, are real attractive to beneficial
insects. The little blooms on your

1368
01:41:45.840 --> 01:41:49.880
cilantro when it bolts and goes to
bloom. I've got a couple of radishes

1369
01:41:49.920 --> 01:41:53.680
that I let go bloom just because
I think the blooms are beautiful. They're

1370
01:41:53.720 --> 01:41:58.039
really cool. And so this is
that transition time we're putting in the warm

1371
01:41:58.119 --> 01:42:00.359
season. You know, we've already
planted Tomatoesefully you got your tomatoes in by

1372
01:42:00.439 --> 01:42:04.880
now. If not, it's a
little bit late. The peppers, eggplants,

1373
01:42:05.000 --> 01:42:09.279
squash, cucumbers, all those things
have been planted. But it's time

1374
01:42:09.479 --> 01:42:14.079
to heat things up. You know, there is some really warm weather material

1375
01:42:14.199 --> 01:42:20.000
out there in the garden that that
includes things like southern peas, black eyed

1376
01:42:20.039 --> 01:42:26.880
peas, purple hull peas, crowder
peas, and for example, U there

1377
01:42:27.159 --> 01:42:30.439
is okra. Everybody knows okra.
I can't forget okra. It's my favorite

1378
01:42:31.000 --> 01:42:34.800
summer vegetable. And by the way, if you're not an okra eater,

1379
01:42:35.560 --> 01:42:41.560
um, let me know because I'll
talk you off the edge. I'll tell

1380
01:42:41.560 --> 01:42:44.479
you out to make okre where I
know what you're gonna say, you're you're

1381
01:42:45.039 --> 01:42:47.560
typically I'll say it's slimy a.
We can fix that. We can fix

1382
01:42:47.680 --> 01:42:54.039
that. Okra is a wonderful Southern
vegetable. It's such an important part of

1383
01:42:54.239 --> 01:42:58.039
things like a gumbo for example,
and of course fried okres real popular.

1384
01:42:58.319 --> 01:43:01.399
There's other ways to do okra as
well. But other warm season gardens.

1385
01:43:01.439 --> 01:43:05.560
There's malabar as in Malabar, they
call it Malabar spinach. It's not spinach

1386
01:43:06.319 --> 01:43:11.119
that is also mucilagius like the ochris, but it's a very good green.

1387
01:43:11.239 --> 01:43:16.720
Molochia very popular in mini cultures.
Molochia is a very good green. And

1388
01:43:16.840 --> 01:43:21.399
you only need like two molochia plants
if not one, to just stay in

1389
01:43:23.079 --> 01:43:27.079
molochia because it becomes a bush in
the summer. It's not perennial freeze it

1390
01:43:27.159 --> 01:43:30.520
down, but you share it back
and share it back and share it back,

1391
01:43:30.600 --> 01:43:35.520
and it just keeps coming back and
keeps producing healthy greens for your summer

1392
01:43:35.560 --> 01:43:40.560
table. In the flower gardens.
You know, we've got all the spring

1393
01:43:40.640 --> 01:43:43.920
flowers that have been doing so well, but as we start to get really

1394
01:43:44.000 --> 01:43:48.239
hot, things like Selosha start to
shine. A gomprina or Bachelor's buttons one

1395
01:43:48.239 --> 01:43:53.279
of the names. One of the
plants called bachelor's buttons that do really well

1396
01:43:53.399 --> 01:43:58.560
when it's hot. Angelonia summer snap
dragons. Another name for it, Oh

1397
01:43:58.640 --> 01:44:01.960
my gosh, that blazes through the
heat really well. Scave Ola. If

1398
01:44:02.000 --> 01:44:05.520
you have a hanging basket, Scaveola
looks great coming over the sides of it,

1399
01:44:06.000 --> 01:44:11.199
as do the type of It's actually
kin to a listum, but we

1400
01:44:11.359 --> 01:44:15.279
call it lobularia, which is also
what a lissum is. The lobularia the

1401
01:44:15.840 --> 01:44:19.279
stream series does really well in the
summer heat. And keep going and going

1402
01:44:19.359 --> 01:44:25.359
for you. Zenia's sunflowers, lots
of good things to carry us on in

1403
01:44:25.520 --> 01:44:28.720
the summer, and many many more. That's just naming a few. You

1404
01:44:28.800 --> 01:44:31.680
know, you get into a shady
area and there's many other options. Well,

1405
01:44:31.680 --> 01:44:36.039
you're you're listening to Gardenline our phone
number seven one three two one two

1406
01:44:36.479 --> 01:44:42.079
fifty eight seventy four. I'll stop
stop the monologuing here for the next segment,

1407
01:44:42.199 --> 01:45:03.720
give us a call. Let's talk
simple, which was Wednesday. All

1408
01:45:03.840 --> 01:45:08.640
right, good morning, we are
listening to Lorie Morgan with a little bit

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of flash blast from the past.
I guess you're listening to Garden Line and

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01:45:13.760 --> 01:45:15.800
I am looking forward to talking to
you. So you'll need a phone number

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01:45:15.800 --> 01:45:19.199
in order for that to happen,
and that would be seven one three two

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one two five eight seven four.
We're in our last segment this morning.

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We got a big day of gardening
ahead as well as tomorrow afternoon as well

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01:45:28.560 --> 01:45:30.039
as a good time to get out
and be in the garden. So give

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01:45:30.119 --> 01:45:33.279
us a call. Let's see what
kinds of questions you might have. You

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01:45:33.319 --> 01:45:39.199
know, I was visiting with Louise
from Heirloom Soils the other day and he

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01:45:39.399 --> 01:45:44.479
was telling me that they are promoting
an event, or they're sponsoring rather an

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01:45:44.520 --> 01:45:48.520
event called plant con which is an
inaugural plant convention here in the Houston area

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01:45:48.920 --> 01:45:53.319
and Heirloom Soils folks ask me if
I would tell you a little bit about

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01:45:53.319 --> 01:45:55.319
it, and I'm more than happy
to do that. That is going to

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01:45:55.359 --> 01:46:00.720
be on May nineteenth through twentieth in
it will be an event where you can

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01:46:00.800 --> 01:46:06.199
come and see a lot of vendors
and a lot of things regarding plants.

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01:46:06.239 --> 01:46:10.439
And I mean it's it's it's too
big to just describe in one little,

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01:46:10.680 --> 01:46:15.119
one little period of time. But
if you go online to plant con pla

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01:46:15.319 --> 01:46:21.279
ntco n dot org slash tickets,
plant con dot org slash tickets, Uh,

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01:46:21.439 --> 01:46:26.760
it is going to direct you to
all the information you need on how

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01:46:26.800 --> 01:46:29.119
to be a part of that.
But the folks at Heirloom, Uh,

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01:46:29.239 --> 01:46:33.640
they are one of the sponsors of
it and a very enthusiastically uh talking about

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01:46:34.439 --> 01:46:36.720
it's gonna be a great, a
great thing, great party. So I

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01:46:36.800 --> 01:46:40.039
hope you hope you'll be able to
join. I'm gonna be there myself.

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01:46:40.039 --> 01:46:44.520
I'm gonna go out and check it
out. But plant Con inaugural Plant Convention

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01:46:44.600 --> 01:46:47.560
for Used in Texas. Well,
we are talking all kinds of things gardening

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01:46:47.640 --> 01:46:55.279
today. You know, there's a
there is a real interests these days in

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01:46:55.960 --> 01:47:02.159
things that provide an enhancement to the
garden beyond just growing a plant to eat

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01:47:02.319 --> 01:47:08.520
or look at. And that would
be things like butterfly gardens and hummingbird gardens

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01:47:08.600 --> 01:47:14.680
and gardening with the birds and wild
birds Unlimited. You are not going to

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01:47:14.720 --> 01:47:18.439
find a better place than wild Birds
Unlimited to get supplies, to get equipment,

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01:47:18.800 --> 01:47:25.720
but also to get information, quality, accurate information on birds. Now

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01:47:25.760 --> 01:47:28.960
you can buy bird stuff a lot
of places, as you know, but

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01:47:29.199 --> 01:47:32.640
there's nothing like wild Birds Unlimited.
They've got a store in Katie if you're

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01:47:32.640 --> 01:47:39.000
out west, if you are maybe
northeast in Kingwood or northwest and Cypress down

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01:47:39.039 --> 01:47:43.880
south in Paarland, bel Air,
West Houston, and soon a clear Lake

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01:47:44.000 --> 01:47:46.319
store. In fact, it's going
now. I will be out at clear

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01:47:46.439 --> 01:47:53.880
Lake by the way. We are
going to be doing a live out there

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01:47:53.960 --> 01:47:56.439
coming up. I'll tell you more
about that later as we get a little

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01:47:56.479 --> 01:47:58.359
bit closer to it. Well,
let me just let me just tell you

1447
01:47:58.479 --> 01:48:01.359
right now. It's going to be
on May twenty seven. That's way out

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01:48:01.359 --> 01:48:04.319
ahead of time. But since I'm
mentioning it, I just put that on

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01:48:04.399 --> 01:48:06.600
your calendar. Come out and see
me if you're out in that area.

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01:48:06.840 --> 01:48:13.720
Now that that store fifty four forty
I was trying to find the address El

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01:48:13.800 --> 01:48:17.399
Dorado Boulevard. That's on the corner
of El Dorado and clear Lake City Boulevard

1452
01:48:17.439 --> 01:48:23.399
across from the HB. The storefront
it faces clear Lake City Boulevard. So

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01:48:24.640 --> 01:48:27.840
you just you're not going to go
wrong with a wild Bird's Unlimited. And

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01:48:28.039 --> 01:48:30.239
if you've not been into one,
you need to go. You know,

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01:48:30.319 --> 01:48:32.319
there was a time when I was
not a birder and then I walked into

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01:48:32.479 --> 01:48:36.640
Walbird Unlimited and oh my gosh,
and now it's what kids buy me for

1457
01:48:36.680 --> 01:48:43.159
a Christmas presents is stuff from wild
Bird's Unlimited. A pretty cool, pretty

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01:48:43.159 --> 01:48:45.680
cool store. And it's a fun
hobby by the way. You know,

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01:48:45.720 --> 01:48:48.800
we keep talking about mothers to day. Oh my gosh, how can you

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01:48:48.920 --> 01:48:56.239
go wrong a hummingbird feeder or a
new bird feeder or bird house maybe quality

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01:48:56.600 --> 01:49:00.119
a mix, it's appropriate to the
season and the wildbirds folks, by the

1462
01:49:00.159 --> 01:49:03.000
way, they can they can do
just that. You know the springtime that

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01:49:03.159 --> 01:49:08.479
birds have nests with eggs and young, and those young need high protein.

1464
01:49:08.880 --> 01:49:11.239
You know, they don't need a
bunch just bird seed. I mean they

1465
01:49:11.319 --> 01:49:15.640
need like protein like dried meal worms
and things like that. Willbirds can get

1466
01:49:15.720 --> 01:49:18.399
you fixed up with that and whatever
the season, whatever kind of bird you

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01:49:18.520 --> 01:49:21.760
want to attract, they can point
you to the right feed and the right

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01:49:21.840 --> 01:49:28.039
kind of feeder to accomplish. Just
that so pretty pretty important stuff. I

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love love bird bird watching myself,
especially the hummingbirds. I've got a new

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01:49:31.520 --> 01:49:36.920
hummingbird feeder and I you know,
as it came from a wall birds as

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01:49:36.920 --> 01:49:40.159
a matter of fact, last year. And I'm sorry to say this,

1472
01:49:40.399 --> 01:49:42.680
but I bought it, I came
home, I set it down on a

1473
01:49:42.760 --> 01:49:45.039
shelf and ran off doing something.
I just saw it the other day.

1474
01:49:45.399 --> 01:49:49.520
So now it needs to go out
with my other hummingbird feeders because I love

1475
01:49:49.680 --> 01:49:55.760
watching hummingbirds and they're they're just you
know, entertaining. I guess to watch

1476
01:49:55.840 --> 01:50:00.720
as well. So anyway, well
enough of that, let's let's go to

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01:50:00.800 --> 01:50:04.520
the phones the number seven one three
two one two five eight seven four,

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01:50:04.680 --> 01:50:09.199
and we're going to head out to
Tomball and talk to Amy. Hello,

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01:50:09.439 --> 01:50:15.199
Amy, good morning, Good morning. I just had two dwarf magnolia trees

1480
01:50:15.239 --> 01:50:16.920
planted in my yard and I want
to know what I need to do to

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01:50:17.039 --> 01:50:21.119
them to make sure that they grow
healthy dwarf magnolias. Okay, Well,

1482
01:50:21.199 --> 01:50:27.039
they want well drained soil. They
prefer a slightly acidic soil, so that

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01:50:27.239 --> 01:50:30.760
may require if you didn't do a
lot of bed development prior to planting them.

1484
01:50:31.399 --> 01:50:36.039
Maybe incorporating some organic matter to soil
create kind of a woodland soil around

1485
01:50:36.119 --> 01:50:42.960
those plants as best you can.
Fertilizing with a product for acid loving plants

1486
01:50:43.039 --> 01:50:45.600
is always helpful. But good sun
and good drainage, or the two keys

1487
01:50:45.680 --> 01:50:50.880
and the compact types of magnolias,
they get sizable over time, but they

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01:50:51.000 --> 01:50:56.760
just grow in a more They grow
more slowly because they're growing more compactly,

1489
01:50:56.920 --> 01:51:00.720
and they're they're not hard to keep
happy as long as they have good soil

1490
01:51:00.800 --> 01:51:08.000
drainage and and somewhat of a woodland
forest type soil ideally, So what does

1491
01:51:08.079 --> 01:51:11.680
that mean woodland forest type soil?
Okay, Well, the forest knows how

1492
01:51:11.720 --> 01:51:14.720
to build soil. It drops leaves
on the ground and drops leaves on top

1493
01:51:14.800 --> 01:51:16.760
of those leaves, and they rot
and it just gets better and better over

1494
01:51:16.880 --> 01:51:20.960
time. Right, And so when
we add organic matter into the soil,

1495
01:51:21.399 --> 01:51:27.920
and when we malt and keep it
mulched, always have malts decomposing on the

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01:51:28.079 --> 01:51:33.399
surface. And as wide of an
area is esthetically acceptable to you. You

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01:51:33.439 --> 01:51:36.359
know, if you were that magnolia
tree and you walked up and said,

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01:51:36.399 --> 01:51:39.960
hey, how far away do you
want grass, it would say over the

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01:51:40.079 --> 01:51:45.000
hill where I can't see it.
That's a magnolia's opinion and every tree's opinion

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01:51:45.079 --> 01:51:49.199
of grass. So those kind of
tips create that forest floor where that's where

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01:51:49.239 --> 01:51:55.600
their magnolias are from, and that's
where magnolias are happy. Okay, all

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01:51:55.680 --> 01:51:57.760
right, all right, very good, thank you very much. Yeah,

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01:51:57.800 --> 01:52:00.760
and it's not the fastest growing of
species. So get you a good quality

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01:52:00.800 --> 01:52:08.560
fertilizer and gradually, over time continue
to feed it to keep the vigor as

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01:52:08.720 --> 01:52:12.680
as best you can. Okay,
all right, yeah, thank you,

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01:52:13.000 --> 01:52:16.239
thank you. I appreciate your call. Let's see now we're going to head

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01:52:16.359 --> 01:52:21.520
out to Tumball and talk to John. Hello, John, good morning,

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01:52:23.840 --> 01:52:29.399
I'm good. Thanks, great question. I know about as far as the

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01:52:29.560 --> 01:52:33.479
spraying for weeds, anything overready five
degrees, don't do it. If you

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01:52:33.600 --> 01:52:38.079
have a day coming up it's going
to be less than eighty five. Can

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01:52:38.159 --> 01:52:43.760
you like, I've already sprayed once
she needs sprayed in the evening if the

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01:52:43.920 --> 01:52:47.159
following day is not gonna be eighty
five or is that two risky? Yeah?

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01:52:47.439 --> 01:52:51.560
You know, the eighty five is
a general guideline, you know,

1514
01:52:51.680 --> 01:52:55.880
because there we're talking about a lot
of different kinds of chemistries and the wheat

1515
01:52:55.920 --> 01:52:59.439
control products, so they're not all
exactly the same. There's one, uh,

1516
01:52:59.520 --> 01:53:02.359
there's one called what's the name of
that thing, Celsius that's a little

1517
01:53:02.399 --> 01:53:05.880
hard to find, but it actually
can go up to about ninety degrees ninety

1518
01:53:05.920 --> 01:53:11.199
two degrees and still be okay.
But in general we aim for eighty five

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01:53:11.399 --> 01:53:15.960
just to avoid problems because when you
stress Saint Augustine, then things like take

1520
01:53:15.000 --> 01:53:18.560
off patch become worse, and so
we just want to stay away from that.

1521
01:53:18.640 --> 01:53:21.399
But they answer to your question is
yes, if you can. If

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01:53:21.479 --> 01:53:25.279
you can do it when the temperature
is a low cooler and especially when the

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01:53:25.359 --> 01:53:28.880
next day is not going to be
one hundred degrees, then that would be

1524
01:53:29.000 --> 01:53:32.119
just fine. But go ahead and
get it done right. And as far

1525
01:53:32.199 --> 01:53:36.880
as going forward, as far as
cutting the grass or watering after that,

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01:53:38.600 --> 01:53:42.560
what's a good time for you,
how many hours, two days or twenty

1527
01:53:42.600 --> 01:53:47.520
four hours or after you apply,
well I would I would do them.

1528
01:53:47.960 --> 01:53:53.880
Well, let's see, so I
think in this case, if you don't

1529
01:53:53.880 --> 01:53:57.199
want to mow off the leaves of
the weed, you're trying to spray,

1530
01:53:57.840 --> 01:54:00.840
and so I would go ahead and
treat it, and then I would give

1531
01:54:00.880 --> 01:54:03.319
it. I give it a week
if you could. Now, if you're

1532
01:54:03.359 --> 01:54:08.159
in a most cycle spot right now
where it can't it can't set a week,

1533
01:54:08.199 --> 01:54:11.840
then go ahead and mow it and
then do the treatment. But you

1534
01:54:11.960 --> 01:54:15.720
just need some leaves to put the
weed control product on. The post emergent

1535
01:54:15.760 --> 01:54:20.800
weed control all right, speaking a
real one more quick question, free emergent

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01:54:20.920 --> 01:54:26.840
post emergent. It doesn't seem like
I've done several applications. It's not doing

1537
01:54:26.960 --> 01:54:31.960
much of anything of the pre or
the post or what both. I mean,

1538
01:54:32.039 --> 01:54:35.640
I I've had in the collected yard
that I bought a house from in

1539
01:54:36.119 --> 01:54:40.640
all right, it's just a tom
I'm gonna I'm gonna cut to the chase.

1540
01:54:40.720 --> 01:54:42.760
Here's what you need to do.
I want you to pull up one

1541
01:54:42.800 --> 01:54:45.840
of every kind of weed you got, put it in a bag and bring

1542
01:54:45.920 --> 01:54:49.840
it to Arbourgate next Saturday. I'll
be there from eleven thirty to one thirty,

1543
01:54:49.920 --> 01:54:54.279
at least to one thirty, and
I will look at the weeds and

1544
01:54:54.520 --> 01:54:56.560
we'll see if we can get to
the bottom of this. You may have

1545
01:54:56.640 --> 01:55:00.159
a weed that needs a special product
recommended, or we can talk timing and

1546
01:55:00.279 --> 01:55:03.439
other things, but I think that's
the best I can do. If you

1547
01:55:03.520 --> 01:55:08.760
can be there next Saturday. Let's
do that, Okay. Appreciate you,

1548
01:55:09.079 --> 01:55:12.880
Bet, appreciate you very much.
You're listening to garden Line. I'm your

1549
01:55:12.880 --> 01:55:15.720
host, Skip Richter, and the
phone number is seven one three two one

1550
01:55:15.840 --> 01:55:20.439
two five eight seven four. Michael
and Sugarland. I see. I want

1551
01:55:20.439 --> 01:55:24.960
to be able to give you time
to really discuss your question. So if

1552
01:55:25.000 --> 01:55:27.880
you will hold on, you will
be first when we come back from break.

1553
01:55:28.000 --> 01:55:30.479
For the rest of you, Now
it's a good time to call Josh

1554
01:55:30.520 --> 01:55:45.039
and get on the board. Well, good morning on a good gardening day,

1555
01:55:45.119 --> 01:55:48.000
as all days are. You're listening
to garden Line. I'm your host,

1556
01:55:48.199 --> 01:55:53.399
Skip Richter, and we are heading
toward the end of the mornings show

1557
01:55:53.600 --> 01:55:56.640
here. We got our last segment
going, so if you'd like to give

1558
01:55:56.720 --> 01:56:00.239
us a call, the number seven
one three two one two five eight seven

1559
01:56:00.359 --> 01:56:03.600
four, and we're just going to
run right out into sugar Land there and

1560
01:56:03.800 --> 01:56:09.039
talk to Michael. Hello, Michael, Good morning, Scip, good charlady,

1561
01:56:09.079 --> 01:56:14.680
morning to you. Thank I I'm
calling because I've got I've been on

1562
01:56:14.760 --> 01:56:17.199
the schedule that you feed you so
to provide for about the last four years

1563
01:56:17.720 --> 01:56:20.680
and every year and my grass has
been you know, I got said Augustine,

1564
01:56:20.800 --> 01:56:24.680
it's it's been perfect. But for
some reason, it's like this year,

1565
01:56:25.319 --> 01:56:30.159
after that last little freeze, I've
gotten maybe seven or eight spots that

1566
01:56:30.640 --> 01:56:33.680
even though the rest of the soil
but the grasses is perfectly green up to

1567
01:56:33.800 --> 01:56:38.199
you know, when we're supposed to
be there's dead spots where you can see

1568
01:56:38.199 --> 01:56:42.479
the runners are dead now on the
same Augustine, runners of course are coming

1569
01:56:42.560 --> 01:56:45.520
back. But my question for you
is should I pull those runners out to

1570
01:56:45.800 --> 01:56:49.680
date the soil to allow the new
runners to grow, or should I just

1571
01:56:49.800 --> 01:56:54.119
leave them alone and let nature take
its course. Well that's a good question,

1572
01:56:54.199 --> 01:56:56.760
Michael. I think it's a little
too tedious to try to pull up

1573
01:56:57.279 --> 01:57:00.319
dead runners. And there's nothing wrong
with you in that, but that that

1574
01:57:00.359 --> 01:57:03.079
would be a little bit of a
chore. If you feel like your soil

1575
01:57:03.479 --> 01:57:09.039
might need a little narrating, then
I would either hire a company to come

1576
01:57:09.079 --> 01:57:12.600
out and do the aeration for you, and you know, we get we

1577
01:57:12.680 --> 01:57:15.399
talk about green pro and the folks
that do that and the compost stop dressing,

1578
01:57:15.800 --> 01:57:18.199
or if you want to do it
to it yourself, you can rent

1579
01:57:18.319 --> 01:57:23.199
a good core narrator. You want
to rent one that pulls the cores of

1580
01:57:23.279 --> 01:57:27.479
soil out and drop some on the
surface, not just squeeze as a hole

1581
01:57:27.600 --> 01:57:30.520
open in the soil. Don't get
that second kind of narrator. Get a

1582
01:57:30.600 --> 01:57:35.319
core narrator, and then get you
some quality leaf mold compost, a good

1583
01:57:35.479 --> 01:57:42.119
quality leaf mold compost. And you
were you were down there in the Sugarland

1584
01:57:42.159 --> 01:57:44.800
area, you're going to be able
to find that. You know, your

1585
01:57:44.840 --> 01:57:48.640
garden centers, you got the two
enchanted it's enchanted gardens, enchanted forests that

1586
01:57:48.760 --> 01:57:53.039
probably are going to have some bags
of that for you. You can also

1587
01:57:53.479 --> 01:57:56.800
go down to CNA Maltch. I'd
call the folks down CNA Maltch that's not

1588
01:57:56.880 --> 01:58:00.479
too far away, and get some
quality for a top dressing. This is

1589
01:58:00.520 --> 01:58:04.119
if you're doing the do it yourself
that that's what I would do first.

1590
01:58:04.640 --> 01:58:10.319
Uh, certainly fertilizers important. Go
ahead. Well, I got another question

1591
01:58:10.720 --> 01:58:14.600
as a follow up. You know
I've already put down top top dressing pretty

1592
01:58:14.680 --> 01:58:17.159
much. I do it every year. I've just recently put down the super

1593
01:58:17.239 --> 01:58:19.520
Church about a week or so ago. Okay, good, so that's what

1594
01:58:20.039 --> 01:58:24.479
I'm a little behind on the schedule, but I guess should I. Since

1595
01:58:24.479 --> 01:58:28.159
I've already put down top dressing,
I put down fertilized as well. And

1596
01:58:28.359 --> 01:58:31.960
those areas where and the spots that
I'm talking about, there's maybe six or

1597
01:58:32.000 --> 01:58:34.159
seven of them, and they're no
more. They're about the size of a

1598
01:58:34.239 --> 01:58:38.800
baseball and they're really tiny. Okay, yeah, they're not going to big

1599
01:58:38.840 --> 01:58:42.239
there, just at least small,
uh you know, one here maybe six

1600
01:58:42.319 --> 01:58:45.199
and six and seven feet apart.
So what I did was I actually put

1601
01:58:45.199 --> 01:58:50.239
a little more uh fertilizer on those
spots. And I'm beginning to see an

1602
01:58:50.279 --> 01:58:55.880
improvement. But I guess my second
question is should I go ahead and now

1603
01:58:56.039 --> 01:59:00.760
do the whole area because that's gonna
make that area a little more child or

1604
01:59:00.920 --> 01:59:04.039
yeah, but just leave that area
along. Well, I generally prefer to

1605
01:59:04.159 --> 01:59:09.520
fertilize smoothly over the whole area,
right, instead of just having some greener

1606
01:59:09.600 --> 01:59:12.640
spots than others. So however,
you might be able to achieve that.

1607
01:59:12.960 --> 01:59:15.239
Now, if your spotsor the size
of a baseball, that is almost certainly

1608
01:59:15.319 --> 01:59:20.159
not a disease or an insect that's
doing that, Uh, there's go ahead.

1609
01:59:21.079 --> 01:59:26.359
I actually dug into it to check
for you know, for chinch bugs.

1610
01:59:26.760 --> 01:59:29.079
I mean, and I've never this. This roe has been perfect in

1611
01:59:29.239 --> 01:59:31.880
every way. Uh. I just
thought it was unusual because it's never happened

1612
01:59:31.920 --> 01:59:36.000
before where you would see just and
when I say size of a baseball,

1613
01:59:36.079 --> 01:59:41.600
maybe twenty five inches, yeah,
and only one in particular area, so

1614
01:59:41.920 --> 01:59:44.720
I know there's no chinch bug.
I took that out and had that chample.

1615
01:59:45.000 --> 01:59:50.840
But they're they're just uh it's kind
of confusing because they're only in that

1616
01:59:51.000 --> 01:59:54.960
little area. All right, Well, tell Michael, I'm heading to a

1617
01:59:55.079 --> 01:59:59.159
break here. Um, I think
that you don't have a disease. It's

1618
01:59:59.159 --> 02:00:02.199
gonna be something unusual, like you
stop the lawnmower and a little bit of

1619
02:00:02.239 --> 02:00:06.279
gas strip down, or a dog
went to the bathroom there. It's gonna

1620
02:00:06.279 --> 02:00:11.319
be some outside the box kind of
thing like that that's killing those spots.

1621
02:00:11.399 --> 02:00:15.039
But I think you're good. What
you've done sounds great. I think you're

1622
02:00:15.079 --> 02:00:16.319
on the right track and it's going
to fill in just fine. Call me

1623
02:00:16.399 --> 02:00:19.079
back if that's not the case,
if these developed, because we want to

1624
02:00:19.119 --> 02:00:23.720
catch things early. But I think
you're okay. Thank you, sir,

1625
02:00:23.880 --> 02:00:26.920
Have a great day, all right, Take care our phone number seven one

1626
02:00:27.039 --> 02:00:31.520
three two one two five eight seven
four seven one three two one two fifty

1627
02:00:31.600 --> 02:00:50.079
eight seventy four. Day. Well, good morning, good Saturday morning.

1628
02:00:50.159 --> 02:00:54.199
Good for gardening and talking about gardening. And that's what we're about to go

1629
02:00:54.399 --> 02:00:58.560
right to do now, our folks
to see. We're gonna head out to

1630
02:00:58.640 --> 02:01:02.399
clear Lake City and talk to Larry. Good morning, Larry, good morning.

1631
02:01:03.640 --> 02:01:08.760
I have a question about the dollar
weed it's going through saying augustine grass.

1632
02:01:08.800 --> 02:01:11.439
What is the best product to use
for that? There are a number

1633
02:01:11.439 --> 02:01:14.800
of them that will work. Um, there is a weed beat or Ultra

1634
02:01:15.399 --> 02:01:17.399
that is available. You can find
it in a lot of places. I

1635
02:01:17.520 --> 02:01:21.720
mentioned it because it's widely available.
Oh my gosh, the second one is

1636
02:01:23.359 --> 02:01:28.800
dropped out of my head right now
I'm thinking about it. But we Beat

1637
02:01:28.880 --> 02:01:31.840
or Ultra would be one I would
probably go with. That's gonna be yeah,

1638
02:01:31.920 --> 02:01:35.199
we Beat or Ultra. Huh.
I believe it's a that's a bone

1639
02:01:35.279 --> 02:01:39.560
nine product. And what is the
best and best pound to employ it?

1640
02:01:39.760 --> 02:01:43.720
Absolutely as soon as possible, because
once temperatures get up in the mid to

1641
02:01:43.880 --> 02:01:47.439
upper eighties, which we're kind of
we're bouncing around there this week. In

1642
02:01:47.479 --> 02:01:50.079
fact, today is gonna be a
little warmer than that but it's supposed to

1643
02:01:50.920 --> 02:01:55.640
cool just a tiny bit, but
go ahead and get it down because the

1644
02:01:55.720 --> 02:01:59.199
warmer it gets, the harder.
Those products are on your Saint Augustine grass.

1645
02:01:59.520 --> 02:02:03.720
Okay, the liquid or a granular
product. The one I mentioned is

1646
02:02:03.720 --> 02:02:09.520
a liquid. Okay, yeah,
yeah, okay, I appreciate it.

1647
02:02:09.640 --> 02:02:12.600
Thank you very much. You're bet
in good luck with it. Okay,

1648
02:02:12.720 --> 02:02:19.680
thank you, yes, sir.
Yeah, you know. The the getting

1649
02:02:19.680 --> 02:02:24.560
ahead of weeds is something I talk
about the importance of building a good dense

1650
02:02:24.640 --> 02:02:30.039
turf to choke out most of the
annual weeds coming from seed. But something

1651
02:02:30.199 --> 02:02:35.800
like uh, Virginia button weed or
something like a dichondra or uh you know

1652
02:02:35.920 --> 02:02:42.640
those those persistent weeds dollar weed that
he was just talking about. That those

1653
02:02:42.720 --> 02:02:45.119
weeds you're not gonna get too dense. They're gonna they're gonna be there,

1654
02:02:45.199 --> 02:02:49.399
especially the dollar weed. Uh.
And so that's where we just have to

1655
02:02:49.479 --> 02:02:54.359
hit him with a with a post
emergent and to get to get rid of

1656
02:02:54.439 --> 02:02:58.560
them. Number one though, on
Virginia button weeding dollar weed both don't water

1657
02:02:58.680 --> 02:03:01.000
so much. The more you walk, the more problems that you're going to

1658
02:03:01.079 --> 02:03:05.760
have with those weeds. It makes
the weed have the advantage and really grow.

1659
02:03:06.279 --> 02:03:10.920
So keep your Saint Augustine a little
on the dry side, give it

1660
02:03:10.960 --> 02:03:15.439
a good soaking, let it dry
out. Don't just you should not ever

1661
02:03:15.640 --> 02:03:18.399
water Saint Augustine three times a week
in Houston. You shouldn't water it two

1662
02:03:18.479 --> 02:03:23.000
times a week, to be honest. If you've got a good established Saint

1663
02:03:23.000 --> 02:03:27.279
Augustine with a good root system,
then once a week it's gonna be enough.

1664
02:03:27.359 --> 02:03:29.479
Now, if you've got issues,
maybe a little bit more, but

1665
02:03:30.119 --> 02:03:33.479
don't overwater it. And that helps
give the turf a little bit of a

1666
02:03:33.600 --> 02:03:39.840
good fighting chance against those those pernicious
weeds that stick around. You know.

1667
02:03:39.960 --> 02:03:45.680
I we're talking about products and things
I mentioned earlier about nitrofists four pound jars

1668
02:03:45.760 --> 02:03:49.279
and and I don't know if you've
thought about fertilizing in this way before,

1669
02:03:49.359 --> 02:03:53.840
but with nitrofis, you've got the
big bags. They've got all the lines

1670
02:03:53.880 --> 02:03:57.239
of products and big bags, and
that's fine. But when you just have

1671
02:03:57.720 --> 02:04:00.640
a few of a plant one or
two, you know, couple of rose

1672
02:04:00.720 --> 02:04:03.760
bushes, or maybe you know a
couple of citrus trees, or are just

1673
02:04:03.920 --> 02:04:10.279
a small color containers that you would
want to use their color express in the

1674
02:04:10.439 --> 02:04:14.159
four pound jars is the economical way
to go, and you're going to find

1675
02:04:14.239 --> 02:04:18.399
them everywhere. Nitrofosts, soul so
Fisher's Hardware and South Houston Lake Hardware include

1676
02:04:18.760 --> 02:04:23.520
Ausbush Ace and the Woodlands. Really
all the aces are going to carry those

1677
02:04:23.640 --> 02:04:28.199
nitrofos products, and the four pound
jars is something you should take a good

1678
02:04:28.239 --> 02:04:30.600
look out. I think you're going
to find exactly the blend of fertilizer you're

1679
02:04:30.640 --> 02:04:38.279
looking for in a very compact,
more economical package as well. Earlier I

1680
02:04:38.399 --> 02:04:43.159
was talking about birds and at the
house, I've got a bird feeder that

1681
02:04:43.359 --> 02:04:45.840
I actually neglected. I'm surprised.
The birds have been banging on the back

1682
02:04:45.920 --> 02:04:49.399
door telling me to feel the dang
thing up, but they haven't yet there.

1683
02:04:49.439 --> 02:04:53.600
I guess polite birds, but I
just noticed the other day it was

1684
02:04:53.640 --> 02:04:56.800
out of feed. I just walked
by run around too much, I guess,

1685
02:04:56.920 --> 02:05:01.439
not taking care of the of my
own stuff. But Wilbird's unlimited.

1686
02:05:01.680 --> 02:05:05.199
You know we mentioned them earlier.
Is just to go to place. Something

1687
02:05:05.279 --> 02:05:09.560
I didn't mention earlier that I do
want to I do want to mention now,

1688
02:05:09.640 --> 02:05:14.000
and that is the website. If
you want to find a Wall Bird's

1689
02:05:14.079 --> 02:05:17.800
Unlimited near you in the Greater Houston
area. And I'm talking about stores in

1690
02:05:17.920 --> 02:05:21.720
Katie, stores in Kingwood, stores
in Cyprus and Pearland and bel Air and

1691
02:05:21.800 --> 02:05:26.520
West Houston. And now there's the
story in clear Lake and I will be

1692
02:05:26.640 --> 02:05:30.319
there in one of the ed towards
the end of May. I'll be out

1693
02:05:30.359 --> 02:05:33.359
there and I'll announce that later.
But that one's on Eldorado Boulevard. That

1694
02:05:33.600 --> 02:05:38.960
is just a really, really good
place to go. I'm so glad you

1695
02:05:39.039 --> 02:05:42.680
guys have one out there in the
clear Lake area. But if you want

1696
02:05:42.720 --> 02:05:47.520
to find the one nearest you,
go to WBU dot com forward slash Houston.

1697
02:05:47.920 --> 02:05:56.439
That gets you our Houston Wall Birds
Unlimited group WBU dot com forward slash

1698
02:05:57.039 --> 02:06:00.239
Houston and it'll direct you right to
one near you and I and that's important.

1699
02:06:00.279 --> 02:06:03.680
You know, Houston's a big town, and you know I'm willing to

1700
02:06:03.800 --> 02:06:09.800
drive all over town for garden centers
and things like that just because I can

1701
02:06:09.920 --> 02:06:13.279
never get enough. I mean,
there's always something cool and new going on

1702
02:06:13.720 --> 02:06:15.279
and I want to go see them. And so for me, it's nothing

1703
02:06:15.399 --> 02:06:20.239
if I'm in Cyprus to drive down
to you know, southeast Houston, or

1704
02:06:20.239 --> 02:06:25.119
if I'm in Kingwood to drive across
down to the southwest side, or vice

1705
02:06:25.239 --> 02:06:28.680
versa. There's so many good places, but I know a lot of people

1706
02:06:28.760 --> 02:06:30.520
you like to find places that are
close to you. You know, I

1707
02:06:31.159 --> 02:06:34.079
was kind of surprised. I guess
it makes sense. I hadn't thought about

1708
02:06:34.079 --> 02:06:36.920
it. But folks here tend to
live in their little burb, you know,

1709
02:06:38.039 --> 02:06:41.520
their little corner. Maybe you're downtown
in Houston and you just don't head

1710
02:06:41.560 --> 02:06:45.840
outside of that much. That's fine, and that's why we have good garden

1711
02:06:45.920 --> 02:06:48.199
centers all over the place. We've
got ace hardware's all over the place.

1712
02:06:48.199 --> 02:06:53.039
We've got wild birds all over the
place. You can find something close to

1713
02:06:53.159 --> 02:06:56.680
you. And I don't know if
you've noticed this before. I talked about

1714
02:06:56.720 --> 02:07:00.920
this before, and I'll probably talk
about it again and again. But sometimes

1715
02:07:00.960 --> 02:07:03.159
there's a mindset that we have when
we're trying to save some money, and

1716
02:07:03.600 --> 02:07:08.119
you know, that's that's something we
all do, is try to, you

1717
02:07:08.199 --> 02:07:11.800
know, save money and get more
for our dollar. And the idea is,

1718
02:07:11.840 --> 02:07:14.560
well, I'm going to go someplace
and buy a cheap plant, or

1719
02:07:14.600 --> 02:07:18.279
I'm going to go someplace and just
buy a cheap product. And the problem

1720
02:07:18.359 --> 02:07:21.760
with that, I would contend that
that is not a way to save money,

1721
02:07:21.840 --> 02:07:26.359
that that's a waste of money.
And here's why you buy cheap pruners.

1722
02:07:26.600 --> 02:07:30.720
You use them a few times and
say words the kids don't need to

1723
02:07:30.760 --> 02:07:31.720
hear, and throw them in the
trash or put them in a bucket,

1724
02:07:31.760 --> 02:07:34.920
and you're going to get around to
sharpening them, and you don't. But

1725
02:07:35.199 --> 02:07:41.159
you buy a plant that is in
a place that doesn't take care of their

1726
02:07:41.239 --> 02:07:45.279
plants, and maybe it's a plant
that doesn't belong here. I've been to

1727
02:07:45.359 --> 02:07:48.680
big box stores and seen raspberries that
won't grow here. I've seen grapes it

1728
02:07:48.760 --> 02:07:51.800
won't grow here. I've seen perennials
that don't grow here, and they're being

1729
02:07:51.880 --> 02:07:56.800
sold because they're being sold in that
chain all over the country. When you

1730
02:07:56.920 --> 02:07:59.800
go to a place that knows what
they're doing, they haven't. They have

1731
02:08:00.000 --> 02:08:03.600
of staff that knows what they're doing, and they direct you to plants that

1732
02:08:03.680 --> 02:08:07.880
you're probably not going to get at
those other places, and they tell you

1733
02:08:07.079 --> 02:08:09.520
how to plan them and how to
take care of them, and the products

1734
02:08:09.600 --> 02:08:16.239
they give you work. That is
a way to save money because you get

1735
02:08:16.399 --> 02:08:20.680
quality and you enjoy it for years, rather than being disappointed and frustrating and

1736
02:08:20.800 --> 02:08:24.800
struggling, and you know, you
call it's like this thing won't grow well,

1737
02:08:24.880 --> 02:08:26.920
it doesn't want to grow here.
You know that lilac was great in

1738
02:08:28.000 --> 02:08:31.199
the Midwest, but it shouldn't be
sold here, right. That's why I

1739
02:08:31.239 --> 02:08:35.279
would say, go to quality independent
garden centers. Go to quality places that

1740
02:08:35.479 --> 02:08:41.119
carry the products that we recommend because
we know they do well here. But

1741
02:08:41.279 --> 02:08:46.000
there's no product on this show that
I will recommend that I don't know is

1742
02:08:46.039 --> 02:08:48.760
going to do well, or a
business that I don't believe is going to

1743
02:08:48.840 --> 02:08:54.079
be the kind of service that you
deserve in your garden because your dollars are

1744
02:08:54.119 --> 02:08:58.680
hard earned and they need to be
well spent. And so realize that a

1745
02:09:00.039 --> 02:09:03.359
quality pair of prunters that you can
sharpen unless to the rest of your life.

1746
02:09:03.359 --> 02:09:07.199
I've got prunters are twenty years old
and they're still going strong. That's

1747
02:09:07.239 --> 02:09:09.720
the kind of things you want to
direct you to think about. That mindset