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Welcome back everyone to a new episode
of You're Wrong with Molly Hemingway and David

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Harsani. Molly, I have not
seen you in like a month. I

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know what you're doing. Wow,
But it's great to be back. A

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lot's been going on as usual.
I was off last week myself, so

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I wasn't paying close attention to what, uh, you know, what was

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happening at DC. But I'd like
to start with a story that intrigues me

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quite a bit. There was apparently
some cocaine found in the White House.

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The press doesn't seem really that interested
in knowing who's cocaine it was, but

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I am very interested in knowing who's
cocaine it was. And I have a

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theory that it might have been a
certain somebody who has had drug problems in

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the past. Now we don't know
that for a fact, but Hunter Biden

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was at the White Eye. Is
it wrong for me to speculate in this

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way? I don't think so.
We're just we're just trying to We've got

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a real who done it here?
Yeah, And the reason we've got the

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cocaine in the White House. It's
important to track this person down is because

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if if I believe if Hunter Biden
was caught doing drugs, this plea agreement

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would be null and void, right, I believe so, Yeah, I

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mean, I say I believe so. But I assume the Department of Justice

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would figure out a way to,
like, I don't know, indict Trump

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for the cocaine rather than hold Hunter
Biden accountable. Didn't read another story this

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weekend if you saw this where I
had my theory on this too, but

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Access I think reported that Joe Biden
gets really angry sometimes behind the scenes and

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yells at people and curses at them. Now, I don't really know how

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cocaine works, but you know,
I'm just wondering about that as well,

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right, like such, Just so
Biden has long had a temper, it

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does seem to be getting worse in
a way that a lot of people tie

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to his general mental decline. You
know, people who suffer from dementia frequently

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get frustrated that they can't recall things, or they get frustrated by obstructions to

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like what they want to do,
and they lose some of their impulse control.

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So while he has long been videotaped
like challenging voters to IQ test fights

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and push up contests, you know, from like the eighties to the twenty

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twenty campaign called that fat. Remember
when he called that guy fat? Actually,

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Mark Hemingway reminded me, do you
remember why he called that guy fat?

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He had brought up something about Russia
Ukraine, right or Ukraine maybe,

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or he brought something up about Ukraine, but specifically said, like, I

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like you, I want to vote
for you. I'm a little concerned that

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Republicans could make hay over your son's
involvement with Barisma, and Biden's response was,

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look, fat, you're a dummy. I'm smarter than you, I've

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got a higher you than you,
and I could beat you up. You

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know. It was like some crazy
thing he said. And that's when I

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think everybody was like realizing, Oh, his temper and his impulse control is

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getting worse. We got to keep
him off the campaign trail. Will just

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let the media run the campaign for
him. It was a total disaster.

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Well it related to you. They
on that story, the bag ban of

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the Biden family business. Yes,
my theory is that the White House drop

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that story because he sleepy Joe,
as it were, doesn't seem very engaged,

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doesn't seem like he's a vigorous,
healthy person, and I think that

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that story was meant to make him
look like someone who is super involved behind

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the scenes and not just being led
around by others, which is like when

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I talked to conservatives at least,
they're always like, well, Joe Biden's

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not in charge, you know,
there are people behind him in charge.

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And I think that that kind of
story, and that's probably something that independence

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also kind of believe. So I
think that story tried to make him look

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like he was actually quite evolved and
quite you know, quite angry about what

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was going on, you know,
because things aren't going totally reasonable. And

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also because like the way the corporate
media spun this was like, actually,

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people think it's a badge of honor
to be called a dumb you know,

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idiot by the president, because that
means he knows your name, you know,

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and like it was a weird spinning
that they did. But I don't

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I think that's overthinking it. I
love the level of skepticism that we have

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at the Federalist about literally every story
that comes out, But I'm not sure.

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I think probably it's very hard to
work for a dementia adult like eighty

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year old with impulse problems. I
saw one of the view people said that

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it was kind of cute that he
got mad and that you like, yeah,

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I assume that was Elisafera and that's
so cute. I don't know.

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I will say I do get annoyed
at these young people complaining about mean bosses,

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Like I've got some me mean bosses, and I don't go around complaining

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about it. And I think it's
just weak too. I'm not saying that

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people should yell and scream and cuss
out their employees, and I think it

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is not great. But this is
a stressful job, the presidency. You

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know, he's got a World War
three he's walking us into, he's stumbling

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us into. He's got a lot
on his plate, you know, a

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destruction of the world, destruction of
the country. It's a lot to handle.

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So maybe they could calm down.
Yeah, I know. I thank

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you for bringing that up. I
hadn't thought of that until now. You

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know. One of my first bosses
was actually started as an internship. Was

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literally I thought he was going to
kill me, like I thought he would

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violently attack me. He threw a
shoe at us one time because we weren't

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doing something and he just demeaned us
all the time. And I think that

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that helped me be a better,
better professional, right and better at what

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I was at my job. So
yeah, you should be expected to be

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yelled at by the president. It's
obvious. Has anyone ever read a book

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about Lyndon Johnson in their lives?
I mean, be happy with I mean,

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I hope Biden's not like exposing himself, but I'm thinking, be happy

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thinking of Lyndon Jucohnson that he's not
exposing himself to you, although that probably

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is happening, because when you get
to be eighty, I'm sure things just

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can you imagine and you notice that
there's no like tell all book or any

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kind of what was that guy's name
who wrote about in the New York Times

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anonymous, you know, or someone
like that in the Biden administration being like,

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yeah, you know, he wears
a diaper or whatever. You know

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it's going on behind the scenes.
I mean, there's no one Why does

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that? Why why don't Democrats have
any kind of okay, just two things

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that you brought up, Anonymous.
I think that remains my favorite story of

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the Trump era. How the New
York Times said trust us. This is

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an extremely high level person who is
reporting these firsthand things. This is so

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high level, it might be Melannia, Like, it's so high level,

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and so all the media, we're
asking every single cabinet official and member of

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the the Trump family, are you
anonymous? And then when it came out

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years later that The New York Times
had put its entire credibility on the claim

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that they had a very, very
very high level person, the name of

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the dude was literally Miles Teller,
the fourth Did I just make up?

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It isn't that Miles Teller as an
actor. If it was Milesteller, that

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would have been amazing. It was
like, I don't even remember his name.

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And on the day that the thing
was written, he was so low

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level at the Department of Homeland Security
that his name didn't even appear on the

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list of like the top sixty officials
at the Department of Homeland Security. So

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he's like, at best sixty first
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the New York Times said this high
level. I love that stright because it

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just shows how insane, how bat
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media are. But having said that
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I was talking with this reporter also
about cocaine, because this is you know,

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clearly in DC, it's definitely the
topic everybody likes talking about. And

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she was saying that she did think
we would get to answer someday, and

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it would probably be in the form
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books that we got like after the
Clinton administration, where they were all like,

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oh man, this was crazy working
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Bill Clinton, like, here's the
stories, here's the women, here's the

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whatever. So we might find out
someday the details. I want to share

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with you. Another high level person
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the cocaine, and I love it. I just and I want to make

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it click. This is a conspiracy
theory. This is not This is not

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someone actually saying that this is what
happened or what they you know, But

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she thinks that the cocaine was moved
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And did you notice how the the
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Like, you know, they started
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which was clearly a misreading of the
scanner. Then they said it was in

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this like um sort of high profile
visitors center area, and they said it

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was actually this like sort of traditional
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where that awning is. I don't
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it's kind of like had different locations
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they keep claiming it's like in a
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I don't think had like the official
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But her theory is that someone discovered
it in a location that would have clearly

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implicated Hunter Biden, Like it'd be
like Hunter Jill, Joe or Ashley,

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you know, whoever are the Biden's
living there, And they knew what it

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was, and they moved it to
a location that had a little bit more

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foot traffic. But the person who
discovered it there had no idea what it

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was. King it might be Rice
in or something like that puts in the

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all call and they clear the building
and all that. I like this conspiracy

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theory. I think it's you know, I don't know, it makes sense

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to me. Obviously, there are
cameras everywhere in the White House, and

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if they really wanted to figure out
who had the cocaine. They could do

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it very quickly, right. Is
that a conspiracy or is that reason?

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No? No, no, it's
we live in an interesting world where if

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you were within two miles of the
capital on January six, you're going to

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be in prison. But that if
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we couldn't possibly figure out even a
small group of people that it could belong

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to. Do you remember when Donald
Trump was sniffing during one of the debates

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and people were all like, he's
on cocaine, and Howard Dean's like he's

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on cocaine. I looked at the
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people who do cocaine have, and
a lot of them are very interesting.

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You should read it. They're mind
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anyway, Well, yeah, no, like the short temper, the anger,

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like the obsessions, bursts of energy. Yeah yeah, now, I'm

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just kidding. I don't think he's
o ka king. I do think they

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probably inject him with some kind of
I don't know, upper I know,

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I hate this like so much what
I'm about to say, but it does

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need to be said. Can you
imagine, I know, Can you imagine

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if this were the Trump White House, you would have already had like Ben

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Sass and Mitt Romney and Mitch McConnell
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You know, like it would have
been so crazy. It would have been

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front page news. We would have
had like Zap Brewer like analysis of everybody

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going in and out, Like you
would have had gossip printed as fact.

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You would have had that conspiracy theory
just said, like printed as if it

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were fact sourced to FBI officials,
you know, like it would have been

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so in saying. And it's just
like you watch even when sometimes like go,

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oh, the White House Press Corps
got a little testy with Kareem John

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Pierre today, and you watch it
and it's someone saying, kind ma'am,

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if we may, could we could
we I'm so sorry, but could we

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bother you with like the tiniest little
question. And you remember where it was

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like during the trump erad where it
was like people standing on their seats screaming,

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you know, coming up with the
crazy ideas of shouting and being so

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disrespectful and mocking, and like now
they're like, oh, it was a

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tough day at the White House,
and it's like the gentlest questioning, you

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know, that would make North Korean's
blush. Yeah, they would stand up

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and quote from the New Colossus,
the poem on the Statue of Liberty to

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talk about like immigration and today that
you can't even ask the White House anything

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about any They will not answer a
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you know there's this guy, right, I was just reading about this yester,

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this guy Rob Malley, who is
the like Iroqadal envoy but all so

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he's supposed to bring back kidnapped Americans. He literally was stripped of his clearance.

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He's being investigated by the FBI.
No one will tell us at us

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a word about why. But other
Americans will go to jail for the same

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thing, right or they'll be you
know, we'll know everything about There'll be

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pictures of Trump's home with you know, splayed out folders of classified documents and

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all of that. But I don't
know Rob Malley, who hates America,

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by the way, who is you
know, a Middle East envoy for US.

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We literally don't even know why he
was stripped of his classified Well,

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you know, if you needed to
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our law enforcement and intelligence agreencies would
tell you, Okay, David, anyway,

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I just want to stress that I
don't actually think Joe Biden's doing cocaine.

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I think everyone's a suspect and until
such time, like I know,

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what's going to happen is they're going
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him or her in exchange for like
a cash advance, you know, or

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something. Sorry, did that sound
cynical. I know they're gonna come up

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with some explanation to make it go
away. But I do like Sean Davis's

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theory that it'll be like murder on
the Orient Express, where it's everybody's cocaine.

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There's no one person, it's just
everybody's cocaine. But I also just

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reasonably think everyone's a suspect, so
I don't think you can rule out anyone.

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It's got to be a rich person, because where people don't just leave

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their cocaine lying around From what I
gather, every year children are trafficked around

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the world. And now there's a
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I did see this thing that said, usually when you find cocaine in someone's

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house, it makes more people come
over. It was about how they'd cleared

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the White House, you know,
in response to the cocaine um. It's

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a very seventies thing. Cocaine,
you know what I mean? Don't you

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think around around the right, like
there's probably a bowld are with all keys

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in it. That's a really old
school white House. It got going on,

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so like if we had, if
we had a comedy um enterprise in

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this country, you could imagine that
there would be quite a bit. Oh.

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I did love this babylon be thing
I saw recently about like the top

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things Hunter Biden has been searching for
on Google, and it just got increasingly

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ludicrous, but it was really fun
to read. I love that we have

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at least the babylon By job.
Yeah. I had one other thing I

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wanted to say about the classified mishandling
for this iron en boy. I was

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talking with someone last night at Fox. We were just kind of joking about

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how much effort was put, how
much effort in Washington, DC was put

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into making the latest indictment on Trump. Seemed like different than all the other

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attacks on him, Like, okay, so we did some really unfair stuff,

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accused him of being a traitor and
all, you know, and then

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like when he got mad, we
claimed he was obstructing justice, Like that

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wasn't cool. But this one's for
real, and everyone you had, like

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people trotted out to make it seem
legitimate, and the mood of the country

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was like, are you kidding me
right now? Like, if you're already

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a Trump pater, you were like, yeah, this proves that I'm right

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to be delusional in my Trump patred. But if you're not, you were

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just like, I don't really find
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of funny. Like they really tried
to make it real, and nobody really

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bought it. I mean, I'm
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but he Yeah, they've done this
since twenty fifteen, right, so even

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if they have some sort of legitimate
claim to some wrongdoing, they immediately blow

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it up into something fantastical and nonsensical
and ridiculous, And of course the credulous

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Trump addled mind and all those people
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it not only is it politically stupid, it undermines any kind of real legal

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or political case you have against Trump. I just don't understand why they think

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it's a good idea. But I
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Okay, speaking of let's get off
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So. I've been following the story. I've written a numerous numerous, like

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I think at least, debunkings of
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Supreme Court that is very different,
as Chuck Schumer I believe said, and

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it's different in that it upholds the
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one last week or was it this
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that made me laugh because there's kind
of like diminishing returns on just taking this

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opo research and pretending it's a new
story. And the New York Times this

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weekend had a story and the language
is very dramatic about how Clarence Thomas belongs

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to this dubious syndicate of wealthy Americans
who are named after a Gilded Age author

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named Horatio Alger and that he you
know that he this is is like into

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the rich star chamber that makes all
our decisions. So anyway, it turns

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out that the Ratio Alger Association gives
out like three hundred has given out like

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three hundred million dollars in student scholarships
to students, like I think it was

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thirty thousand students, and this piece
is dressed up as like him doing something

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bad. I mean, I literally
I don't even understand how a New York

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Times reader could take anything like this
seriously anymore. And yet you know everyone,

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let me, first of all,
let me name you some other people

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are part of this group just the
top of my head, Wayne Gretz,

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Oprah Winfrey, Leo DiCaprio, Michael
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But yet if Clarence Thomas joins this
group, he is now doing something corrupt

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and nefarious and undermining the American democracy. Anyway, I just want to point

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out how ridiculous these stories are getting, and it just shows that the entire

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crusade to undermine the Court is concerted. It's done by people behind the scenes.

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Probably these dark money groups are spreading
it, and I just hope at

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least that the impact of them starts
to diminish as well. Yeah, I

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also got to kick out of the
Ratio Alger story. It was funny.

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It was like, we're trying to
show you how evil Clarence Thomas is.

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He helps underprivileged children, and you're
thinking, like, who could fall for

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this? Like you said, but
I do think the New York Times reader,

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the average New York Times reader maybe
one of the least informed people on

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the planet. And it embarrasses me
when people identify as I mean, I'm

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embarrassed for them when they identify as
New York Times readers and act like they

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are being informed. I read a
story this week that was just so riddled

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with errors and falsehoods. I just
was like, I should have been shocked,

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but I'm I should not have been
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it is very worrisome that the entire
left is running this attack on the court

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to delegitimize it. It is you
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you say, if people were frustrated
and angry about the twenty twenty election and

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how it was handled, that's like
the biggest and they had outbursts at the

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capitol and riots and all that,
like the worst attack imaginable. And let's

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say you grant that, then what
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funded, coordinated attack on the Supreme
Court there's actually been going on for decades

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with a goal of destroying its legitimacy
and threatening the country. Like if a

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day of rage or whatever you want
to call the day of rage is the

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worst thing ever, wouldn't like a
decades long plan to subvert the legitimacy of

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the court be much worse when it's
coordinated by the highest level officials. It's

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got corporate media backing, it's got
billionaire backing, it's got senators actively promoting

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this attack on the integrity. Might
remember that during the Kavanaugh confirmation there were

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senators giving seats limited seats to activist
groups who interrupted the constitutional proceedings of the

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confirmation hearing, and nobody ran an
investigation of these people, Like nobody didn't

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ethics investigation of these Democrat senators who
were part of the attack on the legitimacy

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of the Court and the effort to
subvert the constitutional process. You had Chuck

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Schumer calling for attacks on Justice members, culminating with an assassination tempt on one

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of the justices. Like this is
even if you take the hysterical approach on

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the January sixth riot, like,
shouldn't you be doing everything in your power

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to round up these people? Well, yeah, I agree that these groups.

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The person who writes this story and
the editor who allows it to move

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forward is a far bigger danger to
American democracy than a January sixth rioter.

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I mean, I'm sorry, but
that's just the fact. And let me

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let me read to you the key. So this is a four thousand word

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piece, and I'm going to read
you the when you finally get to the

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claim of corruption or the insinuation of
corruption. Clarence Thomas isn't a group end

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quote includes that includes major donors to
conservative causes with broad policy and political interests

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and much at stake in the Supreme
Court comma, even if they were not

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directly involved in the case. To
think about that, Clarence Thomas is not

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allowed to join an organization that has
all kinds of people from all parties who

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are rich. Because the wealthy have
the money to give scholarships to poor kids.

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Okay, he is not allowed to
join that group because they might have

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not even directly something in front of
the court. I mean, that is

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insane. That's an insane standard.
Are you telling me that Sotomayor doesn't belong

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to any organization out there that has
rich members who also have some kind of

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stake in the Supreme Court. Don't
we all have some kind of stake in

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what the Supreme Court does? Of
course we do. This is an impossible

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standard to meet, but really it
only exists so that someone could point to

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it and say, look, these
people are corrupt. It doesn't really even

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matter what the claim is. And
the problem is most Americans don't look into

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the specifics of these stories. They
just see it and it's working. You

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see poles Supreme Court, the Supreme
Court. Trust in the Supreme Court is

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way way down. Yeah, anyway, And oh, one last thing on

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this. The whole point of this
is, of course, is not an

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attack on the Supreme Court. It's
attack It's an attack on the Constitution because

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the Supreme Court is the only institution
in American government that up holds the Supreme

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Court that pulds the Constitution these days, not always by the way, in

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my opinion, but at least regularly. So let's talk about this. I'm

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always looking for segways. Let's talk
about this. It's really quickly because I

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never get a chance to say anything
nice about Mitch McConnell these days, but

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he had a funny line about Joe
Biden's attack on the court. Joe Biden

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said something like, this is not
a normal court, and Mitch McConnell said,

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that's right, it's the Supreme Court. Okay, it's not that great,

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but I thought it was good when
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yeah, I point out it's not
a normal court. It's a court that

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upholds the you know, for a
second, fourth, fifth, tenth Amendment

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occasionally. But anyway, my segue
is this, there's a case in Missouri,

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so you probably know more about this
than I do. So basically as

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I see it there that the administration
has created this censor infrastructure that works with

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big tech too allegedly or ostensibly stop
disinformation and misinformation, which is none of

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its business, even if it was
disinformation or misinformation by the way, but

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basically is used to censor right wing
views that they don't like that quite often

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turn out to be the truth,
like for instance, with the whand virus

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and where it came from probably,
But so tell me, so there was

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a suit who sued who and what
do you know? Yeah, the attorney

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generals of Louisiana and Missouri brought suit
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for its participation in the censorship industrial
complex. So it is, and on

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July fourth, Independence Day, the
federal judge overseeing the case issued an injunction

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against the government, saying it cannot
continue its role in the censorship industrial complex

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until or unless the case is resolved
in its favor, and that it's unlikely,

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you know, the whole stay was
issued because it's unlikely that the federal

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government will win this case. And
the Biden administration appealed saying that it is

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like a huge problem if they're not
allowed to censor Americans and attack their First

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Amendment rights, and the federal judge
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don't know who it was appealed to, sorry, but that appeal was denied.

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And I imagine this will be on
a you know, on a quick

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route to the Supreme Court whether the
federal government can violate the First Amendment or

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not. I have a theory that
they will not be allowed to do it.

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The government and the media are trying
to say that they're not like that

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if they're not allowed to censor people's
political views that then they can't uphold their

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legitimate law enforcement roles in fighting like
trafficking of humans or law breaking. The

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judge who wrote the injunction, I
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that. He specifically said, this
is not to deal with actual law breaking.

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We're talking about censoring people's opinions that
Democrats don't like. And he showed

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that this has affected millions upon millions
of Americans. This is not a minor

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thing. The scope of what they
have been involved in shaping public opinion,

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censoring, and involving themselves in elections
has everything to do with like as it

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ranges from like COVID stuff, like
they were censoring discussions about the efficacy of

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the COVID response, how COVID originated. They of course censored speech related to,

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you know, the Biden family business. And it's just like everything you

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know, trans issues, like any
topic that Democrats don't want to debate,

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has been censored through the censorship industrial
complex. And it's it's a wide array

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of federal agencies that are working with
big tech corporations to silence Americans and to

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poison free speech and district free debate. A lot of them are at the

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State Department, a lot of them
are at Department of Homeland Security, a

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lot of them are at Department of
Defense. But it's like an unbelievable range

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of federal agencies. I had talked
with someone who worked on suppressing American speech

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at the Department of Defense, and
he had said something like, I would

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be horrified if I knew how extensive, like how much of the work of

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the federal government these days is about
censoring American discourse. And I am horrified

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every time I learned about it.
And I don't even think we I don't

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even think we have begun to understand
how much they're doing. So this is

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very good news for Americans. The
stay was good reading for Americans on Independence

408
00:30:55,079 --> 00:30:57,720
Day, and it's kind of shocking
that it's taken this long to have anybody

409
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:06,400
remind people of the First Amendment.
Um, yeah, obviously, I agree.

410
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:11,359
I think there's just a we probably
disagree on how much government should be

411
00:31:11,359 --> 00:31:17,880
involved in keeping open speech on like
a privately owned platform, right, probably,

412
00:31:18,319 --> 00:31:21,640
But this is not about that,
I know. Yeah, Okay,

413
00:31:22,039 --> 00:31:25,440
now I'm just prefacing what I'm about
to say. But but when you have

414
00:31:25,519 --> 00:31:30,440
the government involved with rent seeking corporations
that need the government to make lots of

415
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,559
money or whatever, and then they're
dictating speech and telling them what to do.

416
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:40,359
It creates a massive problem that is
very fascistic, really in the in

417
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,559
the purest sense of that word.
Right, you have the government and the

418
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:48,079
state working with giant corporations to dictate
what we can talk about. I mean,

419
00:31:48,119 --> 00:31:49,680
that is a massive problem. Now, even let's say if it wasn't

420
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:56,039
a First Amendment issue, if you
don't believe in free speech, open discourse,

421
00:31:56,079 --> 00:32:00,640
and debate, then you're you're a
liberal person. You're an oratarian.

422
00:32:00,759 --> 00:32:05,039
And that's what the What was that
Ministry of Truth thing called that Biden set

423
00:32:05,079 --> 00:32:07,680
up? I forgot it was Disinformation
Governance Board or whatever. I mean,

424
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:16,519
these things are completely illiberal, unimaginably
illiberal organizations to exist, agencies to be

425
00:32:16,519 --> 00:32:20,359
existing in American life, and yet
the media's out there defending them. It's

426
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,440
just the media said, which problem. Telling the government that they can't suppress

427
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:29,720
americans free speech rights is itself an
attack on the First Amendment, Because don't

428
00:32:29,759 --> 00:32:32,640
government officials have the right to say
whatever they want, such as that that

429
00:32:32,759 --> 00:32:37,880
company better shut down American speech or
they'll be punished, which is a very

430
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:42,759
poor reading of the First Amendment and
not actually how it works. First Amendment

431
00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:49,400
does not exist to protect the government's
censorship activities, especially if they're thrending them.

432
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,279
Yeah, I mean, I don't
know if they're Yeah, now,

433
00:32:52,279 --> 00:32:55,759
go on. I would say Matt
Taybe had this thing out where he wanted

434
00:32:55,759 --> 00:33:00,440
to make sure the people involved in
the cases, the Missouri versus Biden cases

435
00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:06,480
had seen some of the emails that
he'd uncovered in the Twitter files, which

436
00:33:06,519 --> 00:33:09,880
are government officials saying things like it's
so great as a government official to be

437
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:15,480
in partnership with big tech in you
know, colluding to censor American speech,

438
00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:21,119
like they're admitting to the crime,
like openly in all these different emails,

439
00:33:21,119 --> 00:33:25,359
and he posted them yesterday, So
it was interesting to see. Yeah,

440
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:30,359
and you know, none of this
even gets into the whole aspect of how

441
00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:35,839
the state is often wrong. It
should not be the arbiter of what is

442
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,279
true or not true. Anyway,
I don't they you know, it's just

443
00:33:39,359 --> 00:33:43,200
mind boggling that we have having these
discussions. When I was growing up,

444
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,279
the left was the one who was
constantly defending free speech the left. I'll

445
00:33:46,279 --> 00:33:49,480
give you an example, Like you
know when we were kid. When I

446
00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:52,640
was a kid, they started putting
stickers on albums, right, that was

447
00:33:52,759 --> 00:33:55,160
led by Tippergore and all of that. I forget what that organization was called.

448
00:33:55,599 --> 00:34:00,799
It was the big company working with
the government to put warnings on records.

449
00:34:00,839 --> 00:34:04,160
I don't even think it comes close
to what they're doing. But everyone

450
00:34:04,319 --> 00:34:08,480
was just completely like everyone on the
left was just completely angry and up at

451
00:34:08,599 --> 00:34:15,039
arms about that kind of relationship.
But now they're saying that the Biden administration

452
00:34:15,079 --> 00:34:17,760
can create a disinformation board. Can
you imagine going to do it? Can

453
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:22,559
you imagine if Trump had a disinformation
board and told big tech companies what they

454
00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:24,119
could and could not put on their
sites. I mean, it would be

455
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,119
you know, it would be the
end of the world. That's my dog

456
00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:32,760
barking. Did you hear that?
I didn't really? All right? Have

457
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:38,400
you Have you heard Mark Hemingway coughing? I did, Okay, I thought

458
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,719
it was a sneeze. I said, God bless you or the people working

459
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:49,119
in my basement. Yes, so, Can I ask you a question?

460
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:52,280
Can we talk about what you have
been up to for the last few weeks?

461
00:34:53,039 --> 00:35:01,679
Sure you went. I went on
a cruise from Istanbul or Constantinople,

462
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,719
as the president of my congregation said, don't give up, like keep calling

463
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:13,880
it Constantinople to Athens with Israel in
between, well Greek islands. Yeah,

464
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,440
and that was not my first time
to Israel, but it was the first

465
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,800
time for the members of my family, so that was fun. There was

466
00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:22,800
so much, like, there's so
much to discuss. I almost want to

467
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:28,400
have like a post cruise podcast where
I talk about everything because I have so

468
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,599
many feelings about so many things.
But did you see a guy who wrote

469
00:35:31,639 --> 00:35:36,039
a letter instead told us to stop
talking about our personal lives because it was

470
00:35:36,199 --> 00:35:40,079
working anyways. Sorry, most of
the most of the reaction to our AMA

471
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,960
podcasts were good, though I want
to be like, maybe this isn't the

472
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:50,920
podcast for you if you don't want
to Yeah, yeah, So what is

473
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,800
there anything in particular I should talk
about with cruise? Wow? So let

474
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:59,800
me just say so going to Constantinople
is that just amazing? It's an a

475
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,519
city. So you took tours of
that city and then you went to Jerusalem

476
00:36:02,679 --> 00:36:07,559
or where'd you go. I'll just
go ahead and go through. Give me

477
00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:14,400
they so okay. We flew to
Constantinople, also names Istanbul. Then we

478
00:36:14,599 --> 00:36:19,079
cruised to Izmir, which is near
Ephesus. You know, the ancient Roman

479
00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:23,199
city that's been destroyed. There's a
lot to talk about there. Then we

480
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:30,440
went to wrote Oh. Then we
went to Patmos, which I loved.

481
00:36:30,519 --> 00:36:34,840
That's the island where Saint John wrote
Revelation. We got to go to the

482
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,719
cave where he wrote that. There's
a beautiful monastery there. It's also just

483
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,280
it's a very small island. I
don't think it's the kind of island a

484
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,719
lot of people would like to go
to, but I would like to move

485
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,400
there, is how much I liked
it. And then we went to Rhoads

486
00:36:47,079 --> 00:36:52,559
and then we went to Cyprus,
and then Pathos, Cyprus, and then

487
00:36:52,639 --> 00:37:00,239
we went to Israel. So two
days we were docked in Haifa. One

488
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,559
day we were talcked in the Ashdote, and then we went to Crete,

489
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,159
and then Santorini and then Athens,
and we spent some extra time in Athens.

490
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:13,239
So of these places, the only
place I've been to is Israel.

491
00:37:14,599 --> 00:37:19,320
That must have been amazing, really
hot there right now, it was super

492
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,440
hot. I got burned. I
have been peeling, it's not good.

493
00:37:22,679 --> 00:37:27,599
Actually we met these awesome people on
the boat. Okay, so the Hillsdale

494
00:37:27,639 --> 00:37:32,039
cruise was so much fun. We
loved the people we met. We actually

495
00:37:32,079 --> 00:37:37,639
made friends on which you know,
for Mark and me is quite that's not

496
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,760
normal. But we met like a
bunch of people we really enjoyed and then

497
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,039
like we also just met like a
bunch of people who were delighting, know,

498
00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:47,400
utterly delightful and having dinner with and
we would go out on the excursions.

499
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:52,119
We were on a cruise line where
the excursions are included, so like

500
00:37:52,159 --> 00:37:55,960
every guilting sort of wake up and
in some cases you're like out there for

501
00:37:57,079 --> 00:38:00,159
twelve hours, you know, in
the in the hot heat, then come

502
00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:04,719
back onto the cruise. But um, it was great. And there was

503
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,880
like one day where we did a
day of lectures for with Hillsdale people.

504
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:13,880
Oh. Also among the amazing people
that were on the boat were Chris Caldwell,

505
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,199
who's one of my very favorite people
to read, and he gave amazing

506
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:22,800
lectures that were really interesting and provocative. And then a guy Victor Davis Hansen,

507
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,199
who's you know, if you've met
him, you know, he's like

508
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,159
the most I could just like,
sit there and listen to him speak for

509
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,239
hours and hours and hours. He
blurred my last book. He loved it.

510
00:38:32,199 --> 00:38:37,639
He's great. Like we rode in
a taxi from like one location to

511
00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:42,559
another. And the amount of history
he was imparting about Turkey, you know,

512
00:38:42,599 --> 00:38:44,880
in Istanbul and all this like was. I was like, well,

513
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:50,159
this has made the cruise completely worth
And he's all he has like a PhD

514
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,480
in in in classical history or something, right, I forget exactly what his

515
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:58,639
say. He's a historian. His
book Culture and Carnage and in the Spartan

516
00:38:58,679 --> 00:39:01,119
way I think it's called art are
amazing. I'm obsessed with ancient history.

517
00:39:01,159 --> 00:39:06,840
I want to go and do what
you just did very much. It was

518
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,280
so much fun and like it was
great on multiple levels, Greek history,

519
00:39:10,519 --> 00:39:15,360
Roman history, Christian history, Jewish
history. Like I learned so much and

520
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:20,000
I'm not very knowledgeable on Greek history. My husband and kids are, which

521
00:39:20,039 --> 00:39:22,719
was kind of funny. Everywhere we
went they kind of knew the answer to

522
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:27,440
all the questions and I'm like,
just they're eating it up. In crete.

523
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,760
We went to the Temple of Gnosis, Palace of Gnosis. Sorry,

524
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:38,199
Mark just whispered a correction to me, which is four thousand years old.

525
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:43,440
I couldn't even wrap my head around
it, and it, you know,

526
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,199
the foundation of it is pretty intact, and so then you can kind of

527
00:39:46,199 --> 00:39:52,400
figure out where the different rooms were, like multiple stories, toilet systems,

528
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,519
amazing, amazing, like water systems, and it's four thousand years old,

529
00:39:55,519 --> 00:39:59,199
and you're just like, how did
these people have this? I don't even

530
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:05,679
understand it was that? Where was
that on crete? This was like a

531
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,880
pre This was like a proto Greek
people, I think, or something right,

532
00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:12,360
Minoans or something. Anyway, Yeah, they're they're the Minoans and that's

533
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,719
like where the minotaur the labyrinth,
and Mark was telling me it also has

534
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,599
believed that it might be where the
myth of Atlantis comes from, because there

535
00:40:19,639 --> 00:40:23,800
was the nearby I think Santorini was
where the volcanic explosion was um and it

536
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:28,440
would have you know, the tsunami
or whatever would have buried a bunch of

537
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:35,519
the island. And also I think
we're a myth of a not a the

538
00:40:35,519 --> 00:40:37,559
phoenix. I don't know, some
some other myth about flying came from there.

539
00:40:37,639 --> 00:40:45,000
But Icarus I heard us a lot
of whispering already explained, I know

540
00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:50,719
nothing about Creek history, but yeah, it was I loved that and I

541
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,360
just like it was great. And
then the cretion food and people were really

542
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:59,360
great. We got some icons there, and that's where Titus was. I

543
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:05,519
think, like, just I have
to actually take take notes on everything figured

544
00:41:05,559 --> 00:41:08,159
out. Also, I loved Athens. Not everybody loved Athens. A lot

545
00:41:08,159 --> 00:41:10,639
of people thought it was kind of
like a grimy, dirty city. But

546
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:17,559
I feel like when you understand that
they can't actually improve anything there without running

547
00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:22,039
up against the fact that they're built
on ruins, and then they can't.

548
00:41:22,119 --> 00:41:24,239
You know, you can't. You
can't like just do minor home improvements because

549
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,159
the moment you do it, you
have to get a permit, and to

550
00:41:27,199 --> 00:41:29,320
get a permit you have to make
sure there are no ruins underneath you,

551
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,440
and of course there are ruins underneath
you and all that kind of stuff.

552
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:37,079
But Athens I really liked. We
stayed in the Placa, like the old

553
00:41:37,079 --> 00:41:43,400
district right around the Acropolis. We
went to the Acropolis Museum, which was

554
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,800
amazing, and then as we were
leaving the Acropolis area, the guide was

555
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:51,519
like, oh, hey, look
it's Areopaga or what I mean, Mars

556
00:41:51,599 --> 00:41:55,639
Hill, and I was like,
really, do you know Mars Hill where

557
00:41:55,679 --> 00:42:00,920
Paul preached about the unknown gods and
he just like brings it right to the

558
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:06,239
Greeks about the falsehoods of what they're
preaching and believing. But to see that

559
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,840
he did it right there, like
in the face of this absolute like behemoth

560
00:42:13,079 --> 00:42:16,079
temples to deities and all this,
you know, just like it just helped

561
00:42:16,159 --> 00:42:22,400
to understand the significance of these things
so much. That's amazing. I'm generally

562
00:42:22,599 --> 00:42:27,960
very anti cruise. It looks like
a horrible thing, but you know,

563
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,159
a cruise that like just goes out
into the Caribbean, for instance, would

564
00:42:31,199 --> 00:42:34,840
not be something I'm interested. But
when you you basically it seems like you

565
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,679
have a moving hotel that takes you
from one place to the next, that

566
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:42,000
seems like something that is beneficial,
especially when you're in Europe in these places

567
00:42:42,039 --> 00:42:44,840
where it's hard to get around sometimes. Yeah, have you ever read the

568
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:49,639
David foster ballas I guess his story
about a supposedly fun thing I'll never do

569
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,039
again about going to and cruise,
you would enjoy it. So I do

570
00:42:53,119 --> 00:42:59,079
not love cruises. I get seasick
very easily. But this was different.

571
00:42:59,079 --> 00:43:04,960
Because we only had waves really one
day, which we are, you know,

572
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,360
being on the open stare, or
maybe like two, so I was

573
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,360
able to keep it in control.
And Mark had told me that the best

574
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:15,360
way to understand a cruise is as
it's taking you to places to help you

575
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:20,440
decide whether you want to go back
there for real, and so you just

576
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,559
get this little taste of things.
And then since I never really even thought

577
00:43:24,559 --> 00:43:27,599
I wanted to go to Greece,
and now I know I need to go

578
00:43:27,679 --> 00:43:31,000
back there much more, like I'd
like to see so many different parts that

579
00:43:31,039 --> 00:43:37,599
I'd like to see the non An
Island portion more. And how was in

580
00:43:37,679 --> 00:43:40,519
stumbled Did you feel safe there and
everything? What kind of city is it?

581
00:43:40,599 --> 00:43:45,960
Yeah, it's got like twenty million
people, it's easy traffic. We

582
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:52,840
really didn't get enough time there,
plus we were extremely jetlagged while we were

583
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:57,199
there. We did go to the
hoggiest of Fia, which just kind of

584
00:43:57,199 --> 00:44:00,039
broke my heart to see how they'd
taken down all the Christian art and replaced

585
00:44:00,039 --> 00:44:05,719
it with you know, I understand
that it's Muslim practice to not have beautiful

586
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,079
art you in your worship space,
but it was just kind of weird.

587
00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:15,039
They had these like large camel hair
camel skin discs with Arabic writing on them.

588
00:44:15,079 --> 00:44:20,400
But that was it, and so
they'd covered up what a remnants of

589
00:44:21,079 --> 00:44:24,840
Byzantine art was in there, like
if there was something of Mary or Jesus,

590
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:30,760
they'd covered it up. But because
Ridawan had only recently made it into

591
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,599
a mosque again, so it was
like a mosque. You know, it

592
00:44:32,679 --> 00:44:37,280
was obviously this great Christian cathedral,
and then it had been printed into a

593
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:42,480
mosque, and then with the secularization
of Turkey it was made into a museum,

594
00:44:42,519 --> 00:44:44,840
and then a few years ago he
made it into a mosque again.

595
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,239
And so during that like secularization period, I think they'd sort of exposed some

596
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,360
of the Christian art in there,
so you can still see, like before

597
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:57,119
you go in there this beautiful mosaic
of Jesus, but it kind of give

598
00:44:57,159 --> 00:45:01,079
you a little glimmer of what it
would have been like in its Christian incarnation.

599
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:07,360
And we also went into the Blue
Mosque, which was actually a much

600
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,840
prettier thing, Like it just seemed
like the Hagia Sophia had been a place

601
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:15,480
of destruction, whereas the Blue Mosque
or whatever it's called for real, it

602
00:45:15,559 --> 00:45:19,679
was designed to be a beautiful space
for Muslim wernership, so it was a

603
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,440
more visually arresting place. We went
to the Grand Bazaar. That's like,

604
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:29,280
I'm not into being I'm not into
people pressuring me to buy things, and

605
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:34,280
so the whole region of the world
is not a comfortable place for me.

606
00:45:35,639 --> 00:45:38,599
So we just left and had the
best meal of the week at a lovely

607
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:43,280
restaurant near the Grand Bazaar. It's
like when I was in Israel, you'd

608
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,119
want to buy something, and like
in America, there's a price and you

609
00:45:45,199 --> 00:45:50,400
just buy it. But they are
like everyone's negotiating everything. It's completely alien

610
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,119
to me to be involved in that
sort of thing. Sounds like an amazing

611
00:45:54,119 --> 00:45:58,039
trip. A mapp you went.
I look forward to hearing more. Maybe

612
00:45:58,039 --> 00:46:00,400
we can do a little segment next
week on something you did, if people

613
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:07,239
are interested. I went nowhere.
I stayed at home. I did.

614
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,199
Can I tell you a quick story
about something that happened to me. Yes,

615
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,480
I was attacked by wasps for the
first time in my life. Was

616
00:46:13,519 --> 00:46:16,440
that so funny? I'm sorry?
Oh in the yard? Yeah? So

617
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,639
I typically laugh at people like run
away from bugs. I think they are

618
00:46:20,679 --> 00:46:23,880
overreacting. So I get I'm bitten, and it really hurt, right,

619
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,239
and then all of a sudden,
I'm bitten again on my back and then

620
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,440
on my leg and whatever, and
just had a bunch of wasps chasing me

621
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,320
around the yard. I probably looked
very funny running away from them. And

622
00:46:34,679 --> 00:46:37,679
I'm still in pain. And this
happened like a week ago. It was

623
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,400
one of the just horrible. Yeah, I have been attacked by wasps.

624
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:45,360
I don't understand how they know how
to get inside your clothing, don't you

625
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,519
know? Or I mean, are
they stinging from the outside of the clothing.

626
00:46:49,679 --> 00:46:52,800
I don't know. But it hurt
initially and then I'm like, oh,

627
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,280
it's all right. But yet a
week later, I'm like trying,

628
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:59,239
I'm just itching all over. I
don't know. I've been taking benadrel.

629
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,239
I know. I just went to
share what I was up to. It's

630
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:06,639
a great, great update, David. Thank you. I mean, you're

631
00:47:06,639 --> 00:47:09,960
welcome. You're welcome. So that's
all that happened to me. I did

632
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:15,320
see. I spent some time with
family. I love Independence Day quite a

633
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:19,760
bit. It's my favorite American holiday. I guess. Oh, so we

634
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,639
were in Athens on Independence Day and
I've been out of the country before,

635
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:28,960
but usually to Mexico and where my
in laws live. In Mexico, they

636
00:47:29,039 --> 00:47:35,199
just like celebrating everybody's holidays. And
so we celebrated Independence Day in Mexico and

637
00:47:35,199 --> 00:47:39,119
that was like fireworks and it was
great. Yeah, But in Athens they

638
00:47:39,159 --> 00:47:45,639
did not celebrate American Independence Day.
But I was walking with my daughter late

639
00:47:45,639 --> 00:47:52,760
at night, Mark and everyone else
was like back at the hotel, and

640
00:47:52,039 --> 00:47:58,719
we were just singing patriots. We
were quietly singing our patriotic songs, and

641
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,199
she read the Declaration of Independence,
you know, for us, and then

642
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:07,480
we heard a lone firework go off, and I was like, oh,

643
00:48:07,519 --> 00:48:12,480
there's an American here. It was
nice. That's nice. You were on

644
00:48:12,519 --> 00:48:15,960
the boat, you were amongst Americans, right, So yeah, but we

645
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,119
were we were done at that point
with the cruise. Oh yeah, you

646
00:48:19,159 --> 00:48:22,039
just hung out in Athens for a
while. Um, I assume you didn't

647
00:48:22,079 --> 00:48:30,199
do any television watching or culture culture
on your trip. Well, not television

648
00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:35,280
watching or movie watching or anything like
that. I kept up my track record

649
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,679
of not knowing how to turn on
televisions in the cruise room, like just

650
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:43,079
didn't figure out how to do that. But when in Athens. They do

651
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,480
have They have like an interesting music
culture in Greece that Mark was telling me

652
00:48:45,519 --> 00:48:50,639
about, like heavy metal bands are
always touring there and they're really into guitar

653
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,360
music. Oh, Like everywhere we
went there was just like actually good what

654
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,679
do you call those street buskers or
whatever, like you know, music playing

655
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,639
sit down for dinner and there were
people playing nice music. But we went

656
00:49:02,679 --> 00:49:08,400
to a few record stores there and
the record stores were really good, slightly

657
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:14,400
overpriced, but really good. And
I got some good records. I got

658
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,679
the soundtrack for the mission. Do
you know that movie the Annie Morricone soundtrack

659
00:49:20,119 --> 00:49:23,519
with DeNiro and Jeremy Irons, was
it? Yeah? And when we had

660
00:49:23,559 --> 00:49:30,000
been in the Nazareth, we went
to the Church of the Annunciation or the

661
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:36,039
Basilica of the Annunciation, and they
had been playing one of those songs or

662
00:49:36,159 --> 00:49:38,599
someone had been singing as Gabriel song
from that soundtrack. So it was like

663
00:49:38,639 --> 00:49:44,679
in my mind, like I need
to get this. And I also got

664
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:52,360
this thing it's called Durand Jones and
the Indicator Indicators Indications. It's like this

665
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:58,960
really interesting little band. American love
their songs. It's like at that And

666
00:49:59,039 --> 00:50:05,119
then we discussed some other records.
What about you? Oh, I watched

667
00:50:05,119 --> 00:50:07,639
a lot of TV. Actually,
I don't even remember all the stuff I

668
00:50:07,679 --> 00:50:10,079
watched. Most of it was garbage. But I will note that I watched

669
00:50:10,079 --> 00:50:15,320
the I started watching the second season
of The Bear, a show I really

670
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:20,559
like. Did I tell you to
watch The Bear? We both liked it?

671
00:50:20,599 --> 00:50:22,199
I don't know, Okay, if
I remember, we both liked the

672
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,559
first season. Now, I what
I love most about the show is that

673
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,559
it just shows a bunch of regular
people who seem to be normal people doing

674
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:37,840
working really hard towards a goal,
and like suffering but working and overcoming obstacles

675
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:43,199
to take something that they do very
seriously, like their vocation seriously. It's

676
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,360
very rare that you have shows like
that. It's you know, It's just

677
00:50:45,639 --> 00:50:49,559
there's a lot of tension in the
show. Sometimes it's a bit much when

678
00:50:49,559 --> 00:50:52,239
the families are arguing, because it
reminds me of like growing up a little

679
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:57,159
bit, but with my brothers and
so on. But it is I think.

680
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:01,000
I highly recommend it. I just
think it's an interesting show. It's

681
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:06,000
got a lot of heart. Then, don't make fun of me. I

682
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:12,800
started watching something called Married at First
Sight. Have you ever heard of this

683
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,800
though, no no idea. They
pick like five couples I think it is,

684
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,920
and they match them up like you
do, but not you know,

685
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,440
not like you, but you know
what I mean. They're matchmakers, and

686
00:51:24,519 --> 00:51:31,039
they these people promised to get married
without ever seeing each other, go on

687
00:51:31,119 --> 00:51:36,000
honeymoon and live together for eight weeks
and see if they can continue. So

688
00:51:36,079 --> 00:51:38,320
basically, you're on this journey with
these people who don't know each other but

689
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:45,239
get married. And I have to
say it was pretty addictive. But there's

690
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:51,079
like eleven seasons it is. I
honestly believe it's really interesting. I'll tell

691
00:51:51,119 --> 00:51:52,960
you why. I don't mock me
here either, but I like watching it

692
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:58,440
because it makes me feel like I'm
not that abnormal in how I deal with

693
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,440
other people, like I always am, like, do normal people not want

694
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:04,599
to talk to their neighbors or do
normal people not know what it's to say?

695
00:52:04,679 --> 00:52:07,239
Or normal people always awkward? And
these people are quite often so awkward

696
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:12,400
that it makes me feel more normal. So anyway, I recommend it.

697
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,480
It's kind of interesting, I think, that's all I think. Also,

698
00:52:16,519 --> 00:52:20,840
it says like you get eight weeks
to decide if you really want to be

699
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:25,159
married or something which doesn't seem like
actually marriage. The whole point of marriage

700
00:52:25,159 --> 00:52:31,519
is that you don't well anyone like
right, No, it's so they'll get

701
00:52:31,559 --> 00:52:36,880
together. And sometimes the match is
perfect, like seemingly perfect. So you

702
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,920
have someone who's kind of nerdy and
like some kinds of weird weird things or

703
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,400
you know, and as a doctor, and they were matched up with another

704
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,119
nerdy person who is you know,
intellectual, and and you assume that they'll

705
00:52:47,159 --> 00:52:51,559
work out, or you have like, you know, they match them up.

706
00:52:51,599 --> 00:52:54,039
I would say that like half the
matches seem like they might work.

707
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:59,280
And then some people get very close, very quickly. They go on a

708
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,360
honeymoon. Some people engage and you
know, they get very you know,

709
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,440
they get intimate together, and most
people do not, and they take their

710
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,960
time and and try to build on
it. And sometimes they don't get along.

711
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,239
Sometimes they do. They get into
arguments this and that. So it's

712
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:15,920
just interesting watching because they're real people. I don't know, I don't know

713
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,920
why I watch it. I gotta
be I feel embarrassed even saying it,

714
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:24,119
but you know, it was just
addictive. I like seeing how people interact,

715
00:53:24,159 --> 00:53:31,320
almost like for me an anthroppological study
of the normies. But I don't

716
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:36,679
know. That's what I did,
just being honest and letting you know that's

717
00:53:36,679 --> 00:53:40,039
great. I'm reading a story right
now about the sixteen or twelve couples of

718
00:53:40,079 --> 00:53:45,159
the sixty four who've been matched who
are still married. Are they really sixteen?

719
00:53:46,199 --> 00:53:51,599
H that's not terrible? Twelve or
sixteen? I can't remember. It's

720
00:53:51,599 --> 00:53:58,280
a few paragraphs ago, and a
lot of them have had kids. Like

721
00:53:58,559 --> 00:54:02,039
I just feel like, I don't
know, I don't really believe that you

722
00:54:02,159 --> 00:54:07,920
just you know, this romantic notion
that you you happen upon the right person

723
00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:10,159
for you. I mean, I
think there's a lot of work involved.

724
00:54:10,199 --> 00:54:13,519
I mean, you need to find
someone who's right for you, you know

725
00:54:13,639 --> 00:54:16,639
both, you know, in many
ways physically but also you know, you

726
00:54:16,639 --> 00:54:20,480
have to your personalities and so on. But you have to work at it.

727
00:54:21,079 --> 00:54:24,639
There's no you know, these are
these romantic movies always or just it's

728
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:29,039
ridiculous. So I don't know.
Maybe that's what I find interesting about it,

729
00:54:29,079 --> 00:54:30,239
But you're just reading about it.
I think you should do some research

730
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:34,400
on this, maybe watch a season, and then we can have a long

731
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,519
discussion about it. You know how
this is going to go. I'm going

732
00:54:36,559 --> 00:54:38,559
to insist with Mark that we watch
it. Then he's going to get angry

733
00:54:38,639 --> 00:54:43,199
again. He's not going to like
it. Do not insist that you watch

734
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,639
Do you ever watch stuff alone or
do watch everything with Mark? No?

735
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:49,440
I don't know how to turn on
the television. Okay, I do sometimes

736
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,760
watch things without him, meaning the
girls and I will watch something else.

737
00:54:53,519 --> 00:54:58,519
So one last thing, did you
see? You know, I'm a big

738
00:54:58,639 --> 00:55:04,800
fan of this Joel Studios, which
makes the chosen because, first of all,

739
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,519
just like the startup nature of it. I like that they're competing with

740
00:55:07,559 --> 00:55:09,519
big studios, and I like the
way that they do business. Even so,

741
00:55:09,559 --> 00:55:13,599
they have this movie out which I
have not seen, probably will never

742
00:55:13,639 --> 00:55:19,280
see, with Jim Caviezel about trafficking
of kids or whatever or women or whatever

743
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:24,000
it's it's about, and it beat
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Dials or

744
00:55:24,039 --> 00:55:30,440
whatever what's called that I won't see
either, just killing it right. And

745
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:37,159
all these reviewers in like Rolling Stone
and elsewhere say it's like a QAnon movie.

746
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:42,679
Did you just see this? So
first off, I will say that

747
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,599
I've talked with a bunch of people
who've seen it, who loved it.

748
00:55:45,639 --> 00:55:47,440
They thought it was great. They've
all insisted that I have to go see

749
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:52,360
it, and some have You've been
taken like older children, meaning like you

750
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:57,320
know, seniors in high school or
college students or whatever. And they said

751
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,639
that the issue because I didn't want
to see because I get very emotionally upset

752
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:06,880
about the topic this it has handled
very delicately, and that you absolutely should

753
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,239
go see it. So I think
I will go see it. I um,

754
00:56:12,679 --> 00:56:14,679
I just want I just want to
see it for myself and see what

755
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,920
everyone's talking about. And I love
that it had a budget of like two

756
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:22,440
dollars and it's not really it's like
a normal whatever thirteen million dollars film,

757
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:27,599
but it made so much money while
the Harrison Ford you know, Woke Fast

758
00:56:27,679 --> 00:56:31,480
or whatever it is, has not
has not fulfilled expectations quite as much as

759
00:56:31,519 --> 00:56:37,360
people would like. So I do
think it's really weird. Actually, I

760
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:45,119
don't understand the media saying that if
you care about child trafficking, that means

761
00:56:45,159 --> 00:56:47,639
you're q and on like, of
all the things to go to bat for,

762
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:52,880
I don't really feel like child trafficking
is the thing I would go to

763
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,760
bat for. And I know that
the Washington Post in New York Times and

764
00:56:55,760 --> 00:57:00,119
all these like lefty media outlets are
totally evil and rupt, but like they're

765
00:57:00,119 --> 00:57:05,400
apparently at the we're going to defend
child trafficking and say that if you care

766
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,320
about it and if you want to
stop it, that means you're Q and

767
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:12,559
on. Like It's just so bizarre
to me, isn't it. Yeah,

768
00:57:12,639 --> 00:57:15,119
they had a whole But what's weird
to me is they have a whole different

769
00:57:15,159 --> 00:57:19,320
set of standards for this movie.
Like, so let's say that this movie

770
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,039
and I forget what's called I apologize, what's it called something? Sound of

771
00:57:22,079 --> 00:57:29,039
freedom? Sound of Freedom. So
let's say that they overstayed the problem,

772
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,239
which maybe they do. Are you
telling me that no movie made by all,

773
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:38,679
like no Mad Damon movie has overstated
the problem or dramatized some societal issue

774
00:57:38,719 --> 00:57:43,360
in some way to make it more
exciting in movie form. I mean,

775
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:47,760
it just seems so ridiculous. I
assume probably. I feel like maybe there's

776
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:52,880
a bit of scaremongering sometimes with these
kind of things. I'm not saying trafficking

777
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,639
doesn't happen, but maybe it's not
as big a problem as some people think,

778
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,800
or maybe it is. I don't
even really even know, but the

779
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,000
idea that you can't talk at it
without being QAnon is just, so,

780
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:07,719
how can a reactionary like it's reactionary
like you because QAnon says that you know,

781
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:12,480
has this theory about kids. Now
you're not allowed to even accept that

782
00:58:12,559 --> 00:58:15,000
some kids somewhere has been kidnapped in
traffic. I mean, it's just preposterous.

783
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:19,280
Mark was saying that the thing that
annoys him is they say that if

784
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:25,119
you are concerned about global sex trafficking, that means you're a conspiracy theorist.

785
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:30,039
And he was like, by definition, this is the type of activity that

786
00:58:30,199 --> 00:58:36,480
requires a criminal conspiracy to happen,
Like at the very least, it's like

787
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,960
a conspiracy of a few people.
But we all know, we all know

788
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:44,400
and have been told again, it's
been revealed again and again that it's frequently

789
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:50,360
these like large criminal conspiracies. And
to say that if you acknowledge these criminal

790
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:57,000
conspiracies that makes you a conspiracy theorist
is like what is it even stupid?

791
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:02,360
I just I also wonder like are
we being naive? Like is the Washington

792
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:07,719
Post? Are the Washington Post New
York Times defending these things for more nefarious

793
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:13,920
reasons than we realize or I'm not. I don't think so. Like I'm

794
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,199
not a big fan of like calling
people groomers and stuff like that unless they

795
00:59:16,239 --> 00:59:22,320
are. And I actually think some
people who want to bring sexuality to children,

796
00:59:22,719 --> 00:59:24,239
I think it's fair to call them
that. But I just I feel

797
00:59:24,239 --> 00:59:29,679
like it's more probably for a writer
at a Rolling Stone or The New York

798
00:59:29,679 --> 00:59:32,400
Times, it's more like just a
reaction to they hate Trump, they hate

799
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:37,719
conservatives, so anything that they care
about, they immediately are you know,

800
00:59:37,239 --> 00:59:42,920
they immediately react in a way that's
negative or or poop poo it or say

801
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,199
it's a conspiracy theory. Maybe I'm
being too Maybe I am naive. Maybe

802
00:59:45,199 --> 00:59:49,480
I'm being Maybe maybe I should have
you know, maybe I'm naive. I

803
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,760
don't know, But that's just how
I feel like. I feel like there's

804
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:57,719
just this reactionary way that people act
now where wherever I have to say,

805
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,880
I mean, I don't want to
go. You know, Tucker Carlson's having

806
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:01,920
that guy Andrew Tad on his show
or interviewed him, like that's a guy

807
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:07,559
I don't feel like I would want
to defend just because liberals are I'm saying,

808
01:00:07,559 --> 01:00:09,840
but just because liberals say he's bad. Maybe he is bad just in

809
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:14,800
the way that there is does that
make sense? Child trafficking? Just because

810
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:16,840
QAnon says that that happens, doesn't
mean I have to say it doesn't happen

811
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:21,960
at all. Like it's just a
weird way politics functions today. Right by

812
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:25,000
the way, I I can't watch
a two and a half hour interview.

813
01:00:25,239 --> 01:00:28,760
I don't know how people have the
time to do that. That's what this

814
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:30,800
podcast feels like, two and a
half hours sort of the podcast with the

815
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:35,599
podcast you just referenced is two and
a half hours. And I, you

816
01:00:35,599 --> 01:00:37,440
know, I am I've already seen
enough about that guy that I don't like

817
01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:42,679
him, But I wouldn't not watch
an interview with him. I actually would

818
01:00:42,679 --> 01:00:44,719
be fine watching it, Like I
kind of want to know more about why

819
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,199
do people like him and what's his
deal and all that stuff, and plus

820
01:00:47,239 --> 01:00:52,199
you know, Tucker's obviously a great
interviewer. Yeah, I mean, I

821
01:00:52,199 --> 01:00:57,119
don't know how he I don't even
have twenty minutes for that. I will

822
01:00:57,119 --> 01:00:59,639
talk to you next week. And
for everyone else, please be lovers and

823
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:00,280
free him and anxious for the frag