WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.679 --> 00:00:04.919 You're shock of Shelley. You know it's chart Shelley. You are about doing 2 00:00:05.040 --> 00:00:08.519 margin upon the great brusay. The eyes of the world out upon you. 3 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:14.919 The hopes and prayers of liberty loving people everywhere march with you in company with 4 00:00:14.960 --> 00:00:20.199 our braid allies and brothers in arms on other front. Your task will not 5 00:00:20.280 --> 00:00:24.280 be an easy one. Your enemy is well trained, well equipped, and 6 00:00:24.320 --> 00:00:31.160 battle heartened. He will fight that and demand. The tide has turned. 7 00:00:31.960 --> 00:00:37.320 The free men of the world are muching together to fingering good luck, and 8 00:00:37.479 --> 00:00:41.399 let us are all these seeking to flecting of almighty Gods upon this great and 9 00:00:41.600 --> 00:00:51.359 noble undertaking. So in the fourth and final segment of the Wednesday o'helly Effect, 10 00:00:51.479 --> 00:00:56.320 Let's get to it, Tucker Carlson did an interview of Vladimir Putin and 11 00:00:56.359 --> 00:01:00.079 it made waves and made you know, wow, how did he get that 12 00:01:00.119 --> 00:01:04.719 guy? You know, when you're in a good spot like this and you're 13 00:01:04.760 --> 00:01:10.239 being well supported by the billionaires and of course the state. I found it 14 00:01:10.319 --> 00:01:14.920 interesting some of the stuff that came out here, you know, post Fox 15 00:01:14.959 --> 00:01:19.040 News. Now that he's an alternative media hero, he wanted to talk to 16 00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:21.799 Putin and get some answers on the Ukraine, and he got a two hour 17 00:01:21.879 --> 00:01:26.280 conversation out of the guy that you know, many of the critics described as 18 00:01:26.319 --> 00:01:32.480 extremely boring and pedantic and droning on and on. And that's what Putin did, 19 00:01:32.519 --> 00:01:34.920 and I try not to do that here, but maybe that's what I'm 20 00:01:34.920 --> 00:01:38.400 doing tonight, because we're well over an hour into the Ocelli effect, and 21 00:01:38.439 --> 00:01:41.040 I only meant to go an hour. So I'm going to give you the 22 00:01:41.120 --> 00:01:48.040 abbreviated analysis interesting what went on regarding Vladimir Putin on there, and I got 23 00:01:48.040 --> 00:01:52.920 a couple of clips from the Carlson interview to demonstrate what it is I'm talking 24 00:01:52.920 --> 00:02:00.640 about. He gives his viewpoint the denotification of Ukraine being the primary issue, 25 00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:04.840 also discussing over and over again, although he didn't put it forth as the 26 00:02:04.879 --> 00:02:08.680 primary issue, spent a lot of time on it, telling us all about 27 00:02:08.719 --> 00:02:15.360 how Ukraine was being pushed and gathered up by NATO and therefore he had to 28 00:02:15.400 --> 00:02:22.759 act, but also denotification, and also he gave a long history lesson to 29 00:02:22.879 --> 00:02:28.560 our new friend, apparently according to all media people, Tucker Carlson. I'll 30 00:02:28.599 --> 00:02:31.199 just point out a couple of things that I think Putin got factually wrong. 31 00:02:31.240 --> 00:02:35.840 It's got nothing to do with my viewpoint on Putin. It's just this is 32 00:02:35.919 --> 00:02:39.719 a weird disconnect from a guy who I am very sure is better informed than 33 00:02:39.759 --> 00:02:46.280 any politician we have in America regarding the realities of everything, from what's actually 34 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:53.759 happening in places like Europe and all that to guess what America. The guy 35 00:02:53.919 --> 00:03:00.960 said, and I thought this was kind of funny. Who boy oh boy 36 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:04.879 oh boy. And in political news, I was going to tell you about 37 00:03:04.919 --> 00:03:10.560 Uma Aberdeen's new dating things. She's hooked up with Soro's new playboy son or 38 00:03:10.560 --> 00:03:16.080 whatever. That's her new bow because Anthony Wiener is apparently out of the Wiener 39 00:03:16.120 --> 00:03:23.080 game according to Uma. But do you care? I don't they do over 40 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:25.919 at I forget which British newspaper they got a full article on it. It's 41 00:03:25.960 --> 00:03:31.120 in the show notes. But back to the Putin thing and the other media 42 00:03:31.199 --> 00:03:40.039 madness that is, who boy o boy o boy some relationship. You know, 43 00:03:40.120 --> 00:03:45.680 he claimed that he had the same relationship with Bush that he did with 44 00:03:46.159 --> 00:03:50.639 Trump. I would say that that's actually inaccurate. And you couldn't tell which 45 00:03:50.639 --> 00:03:53.800 Bush he was talking about at the time, because remember Putin's been in power 46 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:58.400 long enough to have dealt with both Bushes and Trump, and of course Biden. 47 00:03:59.439 --> 00:04:02.120 Interesting conversations. There some stuff he got right by the way, Well, 48 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:06.000 I talk about some of his factual inaccuracies. Let's give a counterpoint here. 49 00:04:06.560 --> 00:04:12.479 This idea that the presidents, the negotiators, the people that were supposed 50 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:16.079 to be talking to him and making deals. He pretty much makes blanket statements 51 00:04:16.079 --> 00:04:21.040 repeatedly through this interview that they're not the people in charge. He was surprised 52 00:04:21.040 --> 00:04:27.319 about that. I don't think he should be surprised at all. He also 53 00:04:27.399 --> 00:04:34.040 said that somehow Hitler's invasion of Poland was really accountable to the Polish people. 54 00:04:34.199 --> 00:04:42.120 In other words, Poland caused the invasion from Hitler, which is really weird, 55 00:04:43.160 --> 00:04:47.160 almost like he believes the false flag thing that Hitler pulled there. And 56 00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:51.399 I'm not even just going with mainstream historians. Most people have examined the situation 57 00:04:51.519 --> 00:05:00.000 would not say that the Polish people requested, provoked, asked for the invasion 58 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:05.639 of Poland by Hitler. But maybe I shouldn't bring up Hitler, although Putin 59 00:05:05.680 --> 00:05:11.000 did quite a few times because he had to for the denotification discussion and he 60 00:05:11.040 --> 00:05:14.639 brings up the interesting point about, you know, the guy who was fighting 61 00:05:14.720 --> 00:05:19.279 Russians during World War Two being celebrated in Canada's parliament. It is true that 62 00:05:19.279 --> 00:05:24.600 that happened, and it is weird because if you were on the side against 63 00:05:24.639 --> 00:05:29.839 the Russians at that point in time, in case you didn't notice, that 64 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:32.800 kind of puts you as an ally of the Nazis. Because the Russians were 65 00:05:32.800 --> 00:05:39.759 fighting the Nazis. It is weird to see that celebrated in Canada's parliament, 66 00:05:42.040 --> 00:05:45.800 isn't it. But anyway, he talks about a bunch of things, and 67 00:05:45.839 --> 00:05:48.360 I'm going to get to some reference points. But I love also that he 68 00:05:48.480 --> 00:05:56.360 reminds our good friend Tucker there, who's a new hero of the alt media 69 00:05:56.399 --> 00:06:00.519 and all, that he reminds him that, you know, one time he 70 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:05.120 wanted a job with the CIA, which I found fascinating because Putin states it 71 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:10.920 rather matter of factly and almost seems to throw it at him like I know 72 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:15.279 more about that than you think I know, which is interesting. And I 73 00:06:15.279 --> 00:06:17.519 mean, I've even admitted on this show that I made efforts to get a 74 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:21.600 job with the NSA before I started doing any of this media stuff. I 75 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:27.519 thought I could be a fair signals analyst. Actually that was back when I 76 00:06:27.519 --> 00:06:29.959 still thought, you know, the system was on the right side of history. 77 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:32.759 Anyway, he also believes that our inflation is at three point four percent 78 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:39.480 in the US and all that kind of good stuff, which is the surface 79 00:06:39.560 --> 00:06:43.800 level, open source thing that you could grab from any media outlet painting a 80 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:47.639 rosy picture of our economy. Putin paints it in a more rosy way than 81 00:06:48.439 --> 00:06:55.279 most American talking heads would, even on corporate media. So there's a factual 82 00:06:55.319 --> 00:06:59.279 inaccuracy for you there. We're not at three four percent. I don't care 83 00:06:59.279 --> 00:07:04.360 if you're talking about this week's implation anyway. Other factual errors, I mean, 84 00:07:04.399 --> 00:07:09.519 there's a bunch of them, but some people would call them matters of 85 00:07:09.560 --> 00:07:14.959 opinion. I guess when he explains the US system, I find it fascinating 86 00:07:14.959 --> 00:07:17.680 that he talks about the elites and now that's all set up and how Actually, 87 00:07:17.720 --> 00:07:24.319 somebody in my mindset would normally agree with him, just can't do it. 88 00:07:24.439 --> 00:07:28.560 Not because I'm holding against him any of the sins or alleged sins of 89 00:07:28.600 --> 00:07:32.720 the Soviet Union, because that's not the point of it. But anyway, 90 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:38.920 let's get to some of the points of it, if you will and go 91 00:07:39.040 --> 00:07:44.839 straight ahead to let's see, let's go to Putin's own words according to the 92 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:48.240 translation anyway, and how he kind of begins the interview. This is about 93 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:53.600 I don't know a minute in or so, but I found this statement and 94 00:07:53.639 --> 00:07:58.759 some others that I'm going to play for you rather fascinating. If the United 95 00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:05.560 States might strike Russia out of the blue, how did you conclude that the 96 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:09.160 deal? When you've talked to America. It's not that America the United States 97 00:08:09.519 --> 00:08:13.920 was going to launch a surprise strike from Russia. I didn't say that. 98 00:08:13.959 --> 00:08:20.240 Are we having a talk show or a serious conversation? Here's the quote? 99 00:08:20.600 --> 00:08:26.560 Thank you, it's a formidable series. It's serious. Nooscoku was buzzivibro. 100 00:08:26.680 --> 00:08:31.120 Because your basic education is in history, as far as I understand, yes, 101 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:37.840 possibly, so if you don't mind, I will say only thirty seconds 102 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:41.679 or one minute to give you a short reference to history. For giving you 103 00:08:41.720 --> 00:08:46.240 a little historical background, please, okay? Now, he he you know, 104 00:08:46.360 --> 00:08:48.000 tells him that I know your history and all that kind of good stuff, 105 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:52.159 which I find fascinating. This little exchange h for a couple of different 106 00:08:52.159 --> 00:08:56.000 reasons. Now another factual error he makes is that he tells him, I'm 107 00:08:56.000 --> 00:09:00.440 going to take thirty seconds or a minute to talk to you and give you 108 00:09:00.440 --> 00:09:03.679 a history lesson, and he proceeds to give him about thirty to thirty five 109 00:09:03.720 --> 00:09:07.720 minutes of a history lesson, starting at believe it or not, the ninth 110 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:13.399 century regarding the formation of the Russian state and that it had been around for 111 00:09:13.639 --> 00:09:18.159 guess what, you know, a thousand years by the time the eighteen hundreds 112 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:24.320 came around, right, So just saying that's what he does there, and 113 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:28.240 I like his response. It's kind of kind of interesting in that. Yeah, 114 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:33.679 that conversation begins at like two minutes and thirty into this video and continues 115 00:09:33.759 --> 00:09:35.320 on to like the thirty five minute mark. Yeah, I guess thirty two 116 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:41.120 and a half minutes that way. It's pretty wild though, that he goes 117 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:46.440 to such lengths to give him a history lesson and asks him if it is 118 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:52.840 a talk show or an actual serious interview. Also, he said a few 119 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:56.840 other things about how he challenged the format and all that. A little more 120 00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:03.799 in depth is his commentary there. Then the translator lets on and I just 121 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:07.600 understand a couple of Russian words to know that the translator left a few little 122 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:13.039 subtleties out of it. But hey, I'm not going to trust my translation. 123 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:18.519 Let's go back and listen to some more of Vlad's words himself. Right, 124 00:10:20.600 --> 00:10:24.000 So let's go back to where he starts to explain, you know, 125 00:10:24.279 --> 00:10:31.480 what is and is not reality regarding Ukraine from about two thousand and eight on. 126 00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:35.679 Okay, and I may have the clip off time wise just a little 127 00:10:35.879 --> 00:10:41.519 started a little early here. But after this history lesson is all concluded, 128 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:46.559 we have to get into Actually it's at the end of the history lesson, 129 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:50.639 sorry, the two thousand and eight Ukraine and what he pivots to regarding US 130 00:10:50.639 --> 00:10:58.159 policy and CIA support for Russian operations glows food does he seems, even if 131 00:10:58.159 --> 00:11:01.600 they do not like some things. Now, I'll tell you what happened in 132 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:05.879 this regard with Ukraine in two thousand and eight. Although it's being discussed, 133 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:13.840 I'm not going to open a secret to you say anything streat Nevertheless, after 134 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:18.559 that we tried to build relations in different ways. For example, the events 135 00:11:18.559 --> 00:11:24.720 in the Middle East in Iraq, we were building relations with the United States 136 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:30.159 in a very soft, prudent, conscious manner. I repeatedly raised the issue 137 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:35.399 that the United States should not support separatism or terrorism in the North Caucasus, 138 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:43.279 but they continue to do it anyway, and political support, information support, 139 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:48.200 financial support, but then military support came from the United States and its satellites 140 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:54.960 for terrorist groups in the Caucasus. I once raised this issue with my colleague, 141 00:11:56.080 --> 00:12:00.559 also the President of the United States. He says, it's a possible. 142 00:12:00.720 --> 00:12:03.399 Do you have proof? I said, yes, I was prepared for 143 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:07.720 this conversation, and I gave him that proof. He looked at it, 144 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:11.879 and you know what he said. I apologize, but that's what happened. 145 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:18.840 I'll quote he says, well, I'm gonna kick their ass. We waited 146 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:24.120 and waited for some response. There was no reply. I said, to 147 00:12:24.159 --> 00:12:26.879 death as b director, right to the CIA, what is the result of 148 00:12:26.879 --> 00:12:33.879 the conversation with president? He wrote once twice and then we got a reply. 149 00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:39.279 We have the answer in the archive. The CIA replied, we have 150 00:12:39.399 --> 00:12:43.279 been working with the opposition in Russia. We believe that this is the right 151 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:46.879 thing to do, and we will keep on doing it. Just ridiculous. 152 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:52.080 Well, okay, we realized that it was out of the question. Force 153 00:12:52.159 --> 00:12:56.159 is an opposition to you, So you're saying the CIA is trying to overthrow 154 00:12:56.200 --> 00:13:01.279 your government emails if you do them in that particular case, the separatist, 155 00:13:01.679 --> 00:13:07.600 the theorists who fought with us in the Caucasus, that's who they call the 156 00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:13.840 opposition, Tim mean it, so they have it. You have the difference 157 00:13:13.879 --> 00:13:18.840 between one side calling h you know, particular people terrorists and other side calling 158 00:13:18.879 --> 00:13:24.279 them the opposition or the separatists, et cetera, et cetera. Kind of 159 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:26.600 normal, uh, normal fair for how it is. You know, different 160 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:33.639 states would view different actors and different groups in the different circumstances. But he 161 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:39.679 points out that the CIA doesn't necessarily function according to the president's wishes and so 162 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:43.159 on and so forth. With that, let's turn to one of the big 163 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:46.120 issues, the thing that got me fired from TNT radio, et cetera, 164 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:52.879 the denotification, the key thing, the reason outside of this long standing history 165 00:13:52.960 --> 00:13:58.440 lesson and the alleged historical claims that he lays to Ukraine, which have not 166 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:03.200 to do it the Soviet Union necessarily, but have to do with long standing 167 00:14:03.559 --> 00:14:07.919 I mean, he goes all the way back to the establishment of bringing in 168 00:14:07.039 --> 00:14:11.080 kings to rule and things like this, and the building of the Russian state. 169 00:14:13.039 --> 00:14:15.399 He goes all the way back to that and that history lesson that he 170 00:14:15.440 --> 00:14:20.960 provides for Tucker. But anyway, Carlson has that very same you know, 171 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:26.759 I'm straining to do something look on his face that he usually has. So 172 00:14:26.120 --> 00:14:33.480 you know, the visuals here are normal, right, you know, concerning 173 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:35.559 these things, and they bring up some pictures of some of the events that 174 00:14:35.639 --> 00:14:39.440 he mentions, which you know, nice edit on that at least we get 175 00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:43.759 a look at certain things as we're moving along and all that good stuff. 176 00:14:45.360 --> 00:14:52.080 But what is relevant here regarding the denotification, right, what is the thing 177 00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:56.240 that motivates this the reason why it was necessary. He talks about the need 178 00:14:56.320 --> 00:15:03.159 for defending people that are actively Russian in origin and how they were so interconnected 179 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:07.039 and all this and why it is that he needed to go in and defend 180 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:13.480 them. He claims that he's defending people when they took Crimea, which you 181 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:16.320 know was a believable thing the way that I saw it back then, the 182 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:20.759 way it was sent to me, that was propagandized on all sides MSM and 183 00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:26.519 alleged alt and Russia today and all of them unified on this idea that you 184 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:33.879 know, Crimea belonged to Russia anyway, not necessarily the truth and not necessarily 185 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:37.759 the will of the people, because elections are manipulated, and he talks about 186 00:15:37.799 --> 00:15:43.039 how American elections are not exactly straightforward affairs later on. Right, So, 187 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:50.200 yeah, let's take a listen to the denotification and in his own words, 188 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:54.879 what that all is, what it means, and why he says it. 189 00:15:54.000 --> 00:16:00.720 Now, I bet that the person that believed that Putin's a good guy is 190 00:16:00.759 --> 00:16:06.399 not going to hear the same thing that I hear in this clip, especially 191 00:16:06.960 --> 00:16:10.080 if we get to the point where he starts talking about who needs to be 192 00:16:10.120 --> 00:16:15.120 gotten rid of and why and what that means for you know, the guy 193 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:19.879 who has a military at his command, the guy who is a former spook, 194 00:16:19.960 --> 00:16:25.360 no matter what country he was a spook with and former's funny there, 195 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:30.720 But you know, what does he mean by getting rid of people? Anyway? 196 00:16:32.080 --> 00:16:34.360 Keep that in mind, but maybe not so much. Let's listen to 197 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:37.919 his own words and try and take him at face value, you know, 198 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:44.159 again relying on a translator here, but still attempt to stop it. Do 199 00:16:44.200 --> 00:16:48.480 you think you've stopped it now? I mean, if you achieved your aims. 200 00:16:52.559 --> 00:16:57.279 No, we haven't achieved our aims yet, because one of them is 201 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:03.200 the Nussification. This means the prohibition of all kinds of Neo Nazi movements. 202 00:17:04.119 --> 00:17:10.359 This is one of the problems that we discussed during the negotiation process which ended 203 00:17:10.359 --> 00:17:18.920 in Istanbul early this year of Stambula Nona. And it was not our initiative, 204 00:17:19.039 --> 00:17:23.759 because we were told by the Europeans in particular that it was necessary to 205 00:17:23.799 --> 00:17:30.759 create conditions for the final signing of the documents. My counterparts in France and 206 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:37.680 Germany said, Germania, how can you imagine them signing a treaty with they 207 00:17:37.799 --> 00:17:41.799 gone to their heads. The troops should be pulled back from Kiev. I 208 00:17:41.920 --> 00:17:48.119 said, all right, we withdrew the troops from Kiev Akiv. As soon 209 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:53.720 as we pulled back our troops from Kiev, our Ukrainian negotiators immediately threw all 210 00:17:53.839 --> 00:18:02.200 our agreements reached an Istabul into the bin and got prepared for a long standing 211 00:18:02.319 --> 00:18:07.880 armed confrontation with the help of the United States and its satellites in Europe. 212 00:18:08.279 --> 00:18:12.519 That is how the situation has developed, and that is how it looks. 213 00:18:12.559 --> 00:18:22.880 Now, what is what is the natification? What would that mean? What's 214 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:30.400 your versificat? That is what I want to talk about right now. It 215 00:18:30.519 --> 00:18:38.039 is a very important issue, the Nazification. After gaining independence, Ukraine began 216 00:18:38.119 --> 00:18:48.000 to search, as some Western analysts say, its identity, and it came 217 00:18:48.079 --> 00:18:52.680 up with nothing better than to build this identity upon some false heroes who collaborated 218 00:18:52.720 --> 00:19:03.079 with Hitler. I have already said that in the early nineteenth century, when 219 00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:11.119 the theorists of independence and sovereignty of Ukraine appeared, they assumed that an independent 220 00:19:11.240 --> 00:19:18.640 Ukraine should have very good relations with Russia. Not few stateistical razi, but 221 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:25.400 due to the historical development those territories were part of the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth Poland, 222 00:19:25.720 --> 00:19:30.119 where Ukrainians were persecuted and treated quite brutally, as well as were subject 223 00:19:30.160 --> 00:19:37.480 to cruel behavior elisastalgy of Permita. There were also a chempts to destroy their 224 00:19:37.519 --> 00:19:47.480 identity now carnoven chest All this remained in the memory of the people when World 225 00:19:47.480 --> 00:19:52.680 War Two broke out. Part of this extremely nationalist elite collaborated with Hitler, 226 00:19:52.240 --> 00:20:02.200 believing that he would bring them freedom from the German troops. Even the s 227 00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:07.640 troops made Hitler's collaborators do the dirtiest work of exterminating the Polish and Jewish population. 228 00:20:08.640 --> 00:20:14.319 Hence this brutal massacre of the Polish and Jewish population as well as the 229 00:20:14.440 --> 00:20:25.359 Russian population too. This was led by the persons who are well known Bandera. 230 00:20:26.599 --> 00:20:30.640 It was those people who were made national heroes that is the problem. 231 00:20:32.640 --> 00:20:37.839 And we are constantly told that nationalism and Neo Nazism exist in other countries as 232 00:20:37.839 --> 00:20:42.519 well. Yes they are seedlings, but we approved them and other countries fight 233 00:20:42.599 --> 00:20:48.680 against them. Now, what's strange here is that Ukraine during World War Two 234 00:20:49.160 --> 00:20:57.960 was part of the Soviet Union, and you have a mixed bag of things 235 00:20:59.000 --> 00:21:04.200 going on here where it seems like they would have been running it. You 236 00:21:04.240 --> 00:21:08.359 know, they would have been running everything there. I mean, Stalin is 237 00:21:08.400 --> 00:21:14.920 supposedly running the Soviet Union and should have control of Ukraine. There is a 238 00:21:14.920 --> 00:21:23.079 certain point in time in which I guess the Russians were not against the Nazis, 239 00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:27.519 or should I say the Soviets were not against the Nazis for a certain 240 00:21:27.559 --> 00:21:36.240 period of time. But this is a mixed bag. See again, it's 241 00:21:36.319 --> 00:21:38.680 confusing, isn't it, Because if you were part of the Soviet Union and 242 00:21:38.920 --> 00:21:44.599 they have absolute control over your territory and your decision making and all that it 243 00:21:44.599 --> 00:21:51.440 would seem hard that a significant portion of your population would be forced to collaborate 244 00:21:51.599 --> 00:21:59.799 with your enemies at that time, wouldn't it. It's a very confusing, 245 00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:06.559 messy thing, but it ends up paying a heavy price in World War Two 246 00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:17.200 Ukraine. On all sides, it seems like anyway, it's it's really confusing 247 00:22:17.240 --> 00:22:19.799 in the way that he explains this. I don't know it. Does it 248 00:22:19.880 --> 00:22:23.359 sit right with you? I leave it to your judgment, and I have 249 00:22:23.440 --> 00:22:30.519 some other stuff past the denotification clips here. Let's see if yeah, okay, 250 00:22:30.519 --> 00:22:34.000 we got another one coming up. It'll end in a little bit here, 251 00:22:34.039 --> 00:22:41.920 but I want to get back to how it is you eliminate Nazism in 252 00:22:41.960 --> 00:22:45.960 a moment. Let him finish his explanation and then we'll find out how it 253 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:52.119 is he would seek to eliminate Nazism, all right, to denazify Ukraine is, 254 00:22:52.400 --> 00:22:56.440 but Ukraine is not the case that these people have been made into national 255 00:22:56.519 --> 00:23:02.480 heroes in Ukraine monuments, so those people have been erected, They are displayed 256 00:23:02.519 --> 00:23:07.119 on flags, their names are shouted by crowds that walk with torches. As 257 00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:17.799 it was in Nazi Germany. These were people who exterminated Bulls, Jews and 258 00:23:17.880 --> 00:23:29.279 Russians parliagophy. It is necessary to stub this practice and prevent the dissemination of 259 00:23:29.319 --> 00:23:33.920 this concept. I say that Ukrainians are part of the one Russian people. 260 00:23:34.559 --> 00:23:38.839 They say, no, we are a separate people. Okay, fine, 261 00:23:40.799 --> 00:23:44.799 If they considered themselves a separate people, they have the right to do so, 262 00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:48.759 but not on the basis of Nazism, the Nazi ideology. Would you 263 00:23:48.799 --> 00:24:00.920 be satisfied with the territory that you have now question neon Nazism. I will 264 00:24:00.920 --> 00:24:04.640 finish answering the question. You just asked, a question about neo Nazism and 265 00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:11.720 the Nazification. Look, the President of Ukraine visited Canada. The story is 266 00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:18.319 well known but being silenced in the western countries. The Canadian parliament introduced a 267 00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:23.440 man who, as the speaker of the parliament said, fought against the Russians 268 00:24:23.519 --> 00:24:29.119 during the World War Two. Well, who fought against the Russians during the 269 00:24:29.119 --> 00:24:33.799 World War two Hitler and his accomplices. It turned out that this man served 270 00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:40.640 in the SS troops. He personally killed Russians, Polls and Jews. The 271 00:24:41.039 --> 00:24:45.519 troops consisted of Ukrainian nationalists who did this dirty work. The President of the 272 00:24:45.599 --> 00:24:52.519 Ukraine stood up with the entire Parliament of Canada and applauded this man. How 273 00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:56.960 can this be imagined? The President of Ukraine himself, by the way, 274 00:24:56.240 --> 00:25:00.440 is a Jew by nationality. Really, my question is what do you do 275 00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:03.759 about it? I mean, Hitler's been dead for eighty years, not sin 276 00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:11.319 Germany no longer exists and so true, and so I think what you're saying 277 00:25:11.400 --> 00:25:15.240 is you want to extinguish or at least control Ukrainian nationalism. But how how 278 00:25:15.240 --> 00:25:19.400 do you see it gets into a strange area here? Because again, if 279 00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:26.200 they were controlled by the Soviet Union at the time, and it was previous 280 00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:33.559 to them going into combat with the Germans and actually confronting them, so for 281 00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:37.920 a time there was collaboration among let's be honest, Ukraine was part of the 282 00:25:37.920 --> 00:25:45.400 Soviet Union. There was collaboration among a Soviet Union satellite. And you know, 283 00:25:45.319 --> 00:25:48.960 I'm just trying to point out that this is not the cut and dry, 284 00:25:49.039 --> 00:25:55.279 clean issue that a lot of people want to make it into, right. 285 00:25:55.680 --> 00:25:57.680 And the funny thing is that some of the people that are complaining about 286 00:25:57.680 --> 00:26:00.000 this and saying, you know, it's all about fighting the Nazis, It's 287 00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:04.000 all about fighting the Nazis. Not too long ago, some of those same 288 00:26:04.079 --> 00:26:11.279 people were also trying to convince me that the history on Hitler was all wrong. 289 00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:15.519 Some of their friends and associates even showed me stuff like the Hitler is 290 00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:19.079 a Hero videos that used to be on YouTube that I think they've actually gotten 291 00:26:19.160 --> 00:26:23.759 rid of in recent months, although you might still be able to find him. 292 00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:26.759 Maybe I'll try and find one for the show. Notes. But let's 293 00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:33.920 listen carefully as to what it is you would do to eliminate, to denazify 294 00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:40.440 Ukraine? What do you do? And Carlson actually asks a reasonable question, 295 00:26:40.640 --> 00:26:45.359 what do you do? How do you accomplish that? What is your idea? 296 00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:47.720 I mean, he asked, are you satisfied with the territory? And 297 00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:52.440 Putin is a little aggravated and a little agitated about it because he's you could 298 00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:55.880 see, he's getting fed up with Carlson even asking a question. And I'm 299 00:26:55.880 --> 00:26:57.680 not sure about how they edited this, because I can see some edits in 300 00:26:57.759 --> 00:27:02.599 it. You know this don't run like you know, fully live and uncensored. 301 00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:08.279 Okay, but still what are we looking at here? Right? And 302 00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:15.000 again, just learn from his words as they're spoken through the translator. One 303 00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:18.640 way or another. Not even trying to tell you what to think about this. 304 00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:22.279 I'm just presenting you pieces of interest I think you should look at and 305 00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:30.599 try to say, is this conducive with the historical record? Is this sensible 306 00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:37.559 regarding the realities we see currently. I'm asking you, the listener, you 307 00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:41.359 have that conversation with yourself, or you could complain to me. And I'm 308 00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:44.359 sure people are gonna complain. There's gonna be people that are gonna yell at 309 00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:48.200 me that I even allowed some of this interview to be commented on on my 310 00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:52.200 air. There's gonna be other people that are pissed off of me thinking that 311 00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:55.480 I'm supporting the Russian side. There's gonna be people that are pissed off of 312 00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:59.359 me thinking I'm supporting the Ukrainian side and the New World Order, etc. 313 00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:06.319 Etc. I'm not doing that. I'm giving you some words for consideration and 314 00:28:06.440 --> 00:28:11.079 telling you that this is interesting. What was presented in this interview with a 315 00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:19.279 friendly interviewer who was not confrontational, who has certainly been part of that contingent 316 00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:25.359 that would be positive to putin. What do we get out of it? 317 00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:27.240 Let's see what we can get out of it. Let's hear about the denotification? 318 00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:37.279 Do that? How do you do what? You listen to me? 319 00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:42.599 Your question is very subtle, and I can sell you what I think. 320 00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:53.599 Do not take offense, of course, because this question appears to be subtle. 321 00:28:55.200 --> 00:29:00.759 It is quite pesky. You say, Hitler has been dead for so 322 00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:07.720 many years, eighty years, but his example lives on people who exterminated Jews, 323 00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:12.079 Russians and polls our lives. And the president, the current president of 324 00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:19.000 today's Ukraine applause him in the Canadian Parliament gives a standing ovation. Can we 325 00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:25.039 say that we have completely uprooted this ideology? If what we see is happening 326 00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:30.279 today, that is what the nassification is in our understanding. We have to 327 00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:36.240 get rid of those people who maintain this concept and support this practice and try 328 00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:41.359 to preserve it. That is what the nastification is. That is what we 329 00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:44.119 mean. Right. My question is almost specific. It was, of course, 330 00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:48.720 not a defense of Nazis, new or otherwise. It was a practical 331 00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:52.000 question. You don't control the entire country, you don't control k you don't 332 00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:56.680 seem like you want to. So how do you eliminate a culture or an 333 00:29:56.720 --> 00:30:02.359 ideology, or feelings or a view of history in a country that you don't 334 00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:11.039 control. What do you do about that? I was nature random Stamboulian, 335 00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:15.920 you know, as strange as it may seem to you. During the negotiations 336 00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:21.240 in Istanbul, we did agree that we have it all in writing, Neo 337 00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:26.039 Nazism would not be cultivated in Ukraine, including that it would be prohibited at 338 00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:33.519 the legislative level. Mister Carson, we agreed on that this, it turns 339 00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:37.359 out, can be done during the negotiation process, and there's nothing humiliating for 340 00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:44.279 Ukraine as a modern civilized state. Is any state allowed to promote Nazisms? 341 00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:53.079 It is not it that is it? Will there be talks? And why 342 00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:59.559 haven't there been talks about resolving the conflict? In you? Okay, when 343 00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:02.920 it gets in this part about the talks, I'll give you the brief synopsis. 344 00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:07.000 He basically says that the President of Ukraine, as May, has put 345 00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:11.240 into place that no one has permitted that talks with Russia right now, so 346 00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:15.559 therefore it's their fault. There's no talks with Russia to solve the situation. 347 00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:19.720 And he keeps pointing back to agreements made. It is Sanbul, and that's 348 00:31:19.759 --> 00:31:26.480 where the explanation pretty much ends now he pivoted away from and Tucker let him 349 00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:27.880 off the hook here regarding this question, No, well, what are you 350 00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:33.319 gonna do about this? It's not necessarily what the state can do about it, 351 00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:37.680 or the negotiation or you know, should it be encouraged. Obviously, 352 00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:41.960 most people, even if they are supporting Nazism, for the most part, 353 00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:45.880 will not go out and say they are, even if it is about white 354 00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:52.079 supremacy or their ethnic supremacy over someone else or what. They don't usually come 355 00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:56.200 out and say that they couch it a different way. And it is odd 356 00:31:56.359 --> 00:32:04.079 that when in Russia there are the head quarters for something like fifty large white 357 00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:12.519 supremacist organizations that are permitted to be registered and exist, that he's concerned about 358 00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:19.200 what could be in Ukraine. It's interesting but also logical, and also is 359 00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:22.839 the automatic sympathy of look, you know, how about if you guys just 360 00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:29.119 legislate the idea that it's not legal to be a Nazi. Other countries do 361 00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:35.480 stuff like that all the time. Very reasonable, makes some sense. Anyway, 362 00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:37.359 I know I'm gonna catch a lot of crap for this, but I'm 363 00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:44.039 telling you I want you to learn from what's being said here. I'm not 364 00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:49.160 endorsing anybody, and it's fascinating also to go ahead and take a look at 365 00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:54.240 the video of this. I suggest if you really care about what it is 366 00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:59.519 the individual who is at the top of the organization, the top of the 367 00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:07.519 nation that is prosecuting this war in Ukraine that has now been going on for 368 00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:12.359 all this time, if you're interested in what he really is trying to put 369 00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:17.200 out there, and in some ways what he's revealing about himself through this conversation, 370 00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:22.559 I think you should listen to it once and watch it once, and 371 00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:28.359 pay close attention to the editing choices that are made here, because I'll tell 372 00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:30.279 you, if I was an editor, I would have shortened this thing up 373 00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:36.200 a lot, gotten rid of a lot of extraneous, sloppy stuff, weird 374 00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:42.160 situations. The facial expressions of Tucker Carlson are clearly stilted, as per usual, 375 00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:50.160 but Putin is making some interesting moves regarding his his his his body mechanics 376 00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:55.680 during this time. He is communicating with body language in a way that I 377 00:33:55.759 --> 00:34:00.200 leave to your judgment. I think you should examine this and get a real 378 00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:07.360 feel because this is revealing to me something very interesting here, and I think 379 00:34:07.639 --> 00:34:13.159 anybody who cares about this issue, especially as we're hearing the arguments going back 380 00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:16.719 and forth about what it is you should or should not support as an American, 381 00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:23.079 which is different than endorsing what's happening or simply being on the side of 382 00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:29.480 a very generalized There is a lot of hairs to split here, is all 383 00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:34.320 I'm saying. And I'm leaving this open. I want you to learn from 384 00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:37.599 what is being played here on the audio, for sure, but go ahead 385 00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:45.639 and independently watch this separately too, and pay attention to the dynamic. I 386 00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:50.119 think it'll reveal to you some stuff that I'm not gonna just lay out for 387 00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:54.199 you. I'm not going to just throw it to you automatically. Anyway. 388 00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:59.880 Let's move on from that subject. And this is over two hours this inner 389 00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:07.440 you and probably could have been longer, and I'll leave that to your discretion 390 00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:10.320 to figure that one out as well. You know what does he mean by 391 00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:14.920 that? Yeah, I'm going to leave some cryptic statements here for stuff that 392 00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:19.079 I think should be blatantly obvious to you if you observe this thing properly and 393 00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:27.840 listen carefully. So I like this part where Putin tries to explain the US 394 00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:30.480 system. And I've only got one other part after this that i want to 395 00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:36.679 focus on, which is regarding the you know, the Nord Stream pipeline and 396 00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:45.159 who was really involved with that anyway, Do you want to know what it 397 00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:51.480 is that Putin thinks about the US system, how it actually runs, how 398 00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:57.239 it actually functions. I think it's fascinating, especially after we had to listen 399 00:35:57.320 --> 00:36:01.679 for years about how much info as he was trying to exert on our electoral 400 00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:09.280 system. So let's take a quick listen. Doubt is he thinks it works 401 00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:17.400 in America. The largest number of sanctions in the world which are applied are 402 00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:22.880 applied against Russia, and we have become Europe's first economy during this time. 403 00:36:23.360 --> 00:36:30.960 Nonotheradum the tools that US uses don't work well. One has to think about 404 00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:36.039 what to do. If this realization comes to the ruling elites, then yes, 405 00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:39.800 then the first person of the state will act in anticipation of what the 406 00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:45.159 voters and the people who make decisions at various levels expect from this person. 407 00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:51.880 Then maybe something will change. But you're describing two different systems. You say 408 00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:53.880 that the leader acts in the interest of the voters, but you also say 409 00:36:53.880 --> 00:36:57.960 These decisions are not made by the leader. They're made by the ruling classes. 410 00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:01.480 You've run this country for so long, You've known all these American presidents. 411 00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:07.400 What are those power centers in the United States? Do you think like 412 00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:16.039 who actually makes the decisions America? Some consider you I don't know. America 413 00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:22.119 is a complex country, a conservative on one hand, rapidly changing on the 414 00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:27.280 other. Okay, here, I'm sorry. I'm trying not to put judgment, 415 00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:30.239 but I gotta call bs on that. You mean to tell me that 416 00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:34.760 one of the most well informed individuals on the planet says I don't know when 417 00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:37.960 it comes to how the American system is run? Who makes the decisions. 418 00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:44.480 This guy knows the inside baseball, the outside baseball, and of course he 419 00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:51.119 has access to the Internet. You mean to tell me that, with the 420 00:37:51.159 --> 00:37:59.519 FSB background, with intelligence agencies at his fingertips at his command, that this 421 00:37:59.639 --> 00:38:04.239 man doesn't know how the American system runs. I mean, no matter what 422 00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:07.239 you believe about it, you mean to tell me I don't know is an 423 00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:15.679 acceptable answer. I want you to really think about that, and let's continue 424 00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:22.079 to hear his description and consider that not always is a statement made for the 425 00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:25.679 purposes of the statement on the face of it. But sometimes there are strategic 426 00:38:25.719 --> 00:38:30.320 statements that are made to signal two particular viewers, you know, for the 427 00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:35.320 audience of one for the audience of one agency, for the audience of one 428 00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:39.840 country, whether it's his own or it's someone else's, or et cetera, 429 00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:46.400 et cetera. Maybe a statement is slipped in here or there just to be 430 00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:52.320 a signal to somebody's wife during an interview. I just wanted my wife to 431 00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:55.280 hear that part, and it's thrown in there, you know, politicians, 432 00:38:55.440 --> 00:39:00.719 sports people, doesn't matter. Maybe they want their mistress to hearticular phrase. 433 00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:06.760 Look, all kinds of messaging is built into these interviews, and I guarantee 434 00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:09.239 you there's a lot of different messaging built in here. But I had to 435 00:39:09.239 --> 00:39:14.880 call bs on. I don't know who makes the decisions in America. I 436 00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:20.159 think there is no way in the world that that is a remotely believable answer. 437 00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:25.000 He could have given almost any other answer other than that. So there 438 00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:30.159 is one of those factual inaccuracies. Okay, sorry, I felt compelled. 439 00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:34.960 And again we're going to conclude this with a look at the nord stream pipeline. 440 00:39:35.079 --> 00:39:38.719 But let's hear a little more about how Putin thinks it runs, speculates 441 00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:45.000 about it, how America actually functions. It's not easy for us to sort 442 00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:51.360 it all out. Who makes decisions in the elections? Is it possible to 443 00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:57.519 understand this? When each state has its own legislation, each state regulates itself, 444 00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:01.480 someone can be excluded from elections that state level. It is a two 445 00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:06.360 stage electoral system. Now do you know who he's pandering to right there? 446 00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:10.599 Do you? I do? Sorry, it is very difficult for us to 447 00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:16.599 understand it. Certainly, there are two parties that are dominant, the Republicans 448 00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:22.679 and the Democrats. And within this party system the centers that make decisions, 449 00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:29.280 that prepare decisions. Then look why, in my opinion, after the collapse 450 00:40:29.320 --> 00:40:34.599 of the Soviet Union, such an erroneous, crude, completely unjustified policy of 451 00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:38.920 pressure was pursued against Russia. After all, this is a policy of pressure, 452 00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:45.360 NATO expansion, support for the separatists, in Caucus's creation of a missile 453 00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:52.239 defense system. These are all elements of pressure. Pressure, pressure, pressure. 454 00:40:52.360 --> 00:40:59.039 Then, dragging Ukraine into NATO is all about pressure, pressure, pressure. 455 00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:05.679 Why, I think, among other things, because excessive production capacities were 456 00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:13.639 created during the confrontation with the Soviet Union. There were many centers created and 457 00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:17.800 specialists on the Soviet Union who could not do anything else. They convinced the 458 00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:23.639 political leadership that it is necessary to continue chiseling Russia, to try to break 459 00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:30.280 it out, to create on this territory several quasi state entities, and to 460 00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:34.480 subdue them in a divided form. To you, now, I'm also a 461 00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:38.440 little confused there because the negotiators, the interactors with the Soviet Union, the 462 00:41:38.519 --> 00:41:43.039 Russia, all this thing. They are, on the one hand, there 463 00:41:43.079 --> 00:41:49.039 to chisel away at Russia, But on the other hand, the people he 464 00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:52.519 was dealing with usually didn't actually have the power. Because earlier he definitely states 465 00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:58.679 that you say, the CIA made decisions even though the President literally said I'm 466 00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:02.360 gonna go kick their act. I think that's the phrase he used, I'm 467 00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:06.840 gonna kick somebody's ass over this, And then they kept writ into the CIA. 468 00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:09.480 The CIA said, now we support your opposition, which are actually terrorists 469 00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:15.639 that we were fighting in the Caucuses. This according to him, so on 470 00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:17.400 the one hand, he's saying that the people that are actually negotiating with him 471 00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:21.920 don't have any power. They throw away. He mentioned several times during this 472 00:42:21.960 --> 00:42:25.360 interview that they throw agreements in the garbage or in the I think at some 473 00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:30.679 point he says the furnace or the fireplace, or maybe it's a stove. 474 00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:32.800 I forget which, but either way he implies that they either burn them or 475 00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:37.320 trash them when they make agreements, so it doesn't matter. And the people 476 00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:40.599 that he's dealing with aren't really the decision makers. This is what he's implying. 477 00:42:40.639 --> 00:42:46.639 And now he's saying this about the people negotiating with him. So is 478 00:42:46.679 --> 00:42:53.199 this a contradiction or is this very sophisticated nuanced signaling. And who is he 479 00:42:53.320 --> 00:42:59.840 exactly virtue signaling too? Which audience is he playing to? Who do you 480 00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:07.480 think? I'll leave it to you to figure out the listener. Who's their 481 00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:13.199 combined potential for the future struggle with China. This is a mistake, including 482 00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:16.639 the excessive potential of those who worked for the confrontation with the Soviet Union. 483 00:43:19.119 --> 00:43:22.360 It is necessary to get rid of this. There should be new fresh forces, 484 00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:27.480 people who look into the future and understand what is happening in the world. 485 00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:34.639 Look at how Indonesia is developing six hundred million people. Where can we 486 00:43:34.679 --> 00:43:38.360 get away from that nowhere, we just have to assume that Indonesia will enter. 487 00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:44.079 It is already in the club of the world's leading economies, no matter 488 00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:50.000 who likes it or dislikes it. Yes, we understand and are aware that 489 00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:55.000 in the United States, despite all the economic problems, the situation is still 490 00:43:55.039 --> 00:44:00.639 normal, with the economy growing decently, the GDPs growing by two point five 491 00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:07.360 percent, if I'm not mistaken. But if we want to ensure the future, 492 00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:10.800 then we need to change our approach to what is changing. Okay, 493 00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:15.519 so you know where he's going there. It's like he's still being dealt with 494 00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:19.880 as if it's the Soviet Union. It's not the Soviet Union. And I 495 00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:22.719 get that criticism all the time that that's why I'm so against Putin, But 496 00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:29.400 you know, it's just because I'm universally against elite players making decisions for the 497 00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:31.000 rest of us and deceiving us all the time, and I think he's one 498 00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:37.559 of those guys. Now you may disagree with that, but that's why I'm 499 00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:42.440 generally against, you know, doing what Trump suggested, which is I'd let 500 00:44:42.519 --> 00:44:45.440 him do whatever the hell he wants. I don't think that's a good idea. 501 00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:52.079 I think that some resistance to Putin's plans might be a good idea for 502 00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:58.000 the self preservation of others in certain cases. I think people who live in 503 00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:01.599 Ukraine right now might agree with that, but there are other people in other 504 00:45:01.639 --> 00:45:05.519 places. And he talks at a certain point about how it would be absolutely 505 00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:08.639 foolish for him to invade Poland and things like that, because some people are 506 00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:13.559 bringing up that hyperbole that he's about ready to invade Poland. I don't think 507 00:45:13.679 --> 00:45:17.440 so. He also talks at certain points about nuclear weapons and the use of 508 00:45:17.480 --> 00:45:22.320 them and how it is that he's actually being pushed to that point, but 509 00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:27.559 he hasn't made those suggestions. And even when Carlson tries to show him quotes 510 00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:31.280 where he has said certain things like that, and other points where he tries 511 00:45:31.320 --> 00:45:35.440 to show him quotes like at the beginning of this discussion, he says, 512 00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:38.760 no, I never said that. Are we getting the wrong stuff from the 513 00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:45.920 interpreters over here? Because best I can figure out he has said certain things 514 00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:52.960 and often denies that he made such comments. But again, is this somebody 515 00:45:53.000 --> 00:46:00.880 who's being savvy or is this something else? Again, I leave the judgment 516 00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:07.039 to you, because I don't know if I can judge this properly. Again, 517 00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:10.760 I'm listening through an interpreter just like you are now, so we're doing 518 00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:15.920 the best we can. Right. How about we conclude though, with the 519 00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:21.039 issue of the Nord Stream pipeline. I found this to be one of the 520 00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:23.719 more interesting points. And there's a lot of interesting stuff in here, okay, 521 00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:30.599 And again you have to study it and understand that certain statements are made 522 00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:35.760 for your benefit, some statements are made for other people's, particular people's benefits 523 00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:45.800 during this discussion, and I think that he got the most unfettered, unscreened 524 00:46:47.880 --> 00:46:52.519 commentary that he could out there. His statements are absolutely out there, nice 525 00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:57.840 and clear. If indeed this translation was approved, which I assure you it 526 00:46:57.960 --> 00:47:00.719 was before it was released. Again, I I don't agree with all the 527 00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:10.840 editing the choices here, but here we sit. So let's take a listen 528 00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:16.960 to the section about the Nord stream pipeline and who putin says is responsible for 529 00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:22.159 that and how significant it is. It seems to me that this is much 530 00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:30.280 smarter and more rational. Who blew up nordstream? You for sure, I 531 00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:44.440 was busy that day. I did not blow upstream, thank you. Personally 532 00:47:44.519 --> 00:47:49.400 may have an alibi, but the CIA has no such alibi. I like 533 00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:52.079 that part. By the way, I didn't personally blow up the nord Stream 534 00:47:52.079 --> 00:48:01.039 pipeline. Yeah. Uh, did you have evidence that NATO or CI did 535 00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:13.639 it? You know, I won't get into details, but people always say 536 00:48:13.639 --> 00:48:17.360 in such cases, look for someone who is interested. But in this case, 537 00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:22.000 we should not only look for someone who is interested, but also for 538 00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:25.880 someone who has capabilities. Because there may be many people interested, but not 539 00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:30.000 all of them are capable of sinking to the bottom of the Baltic Sea and 540 00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:37.039 carrying out this explosion. These two components should be connected. Who is interested 541 00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:39.039 and who is capable of doing it? But I'm confused. I mean, 542 00:48:39.039 --> 00:48:45.239 that's the biggest act of industrial terrorism ever and it's the largest emission of CO 543 00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:47.760 two in history. Okay, so if you had evidence, and presumably giving 544 00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:52.199 your security services rental services, you would that NATO, the US, CIA 545 00:48:52.280 --> 00:49:01.199 at West did this. Why wouldn't you present it and win a propaganda victory. 546 00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:07.519 In the war of propaganda, it is very difficult to defeat the United 547 00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:14.280 States because the United States controls all the world's media and many European media. 548 00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:21.599 The ultimate beneficiary of the biggest European media are American financial institutions, don't you 549 00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:25.760 know that? So it is possible to get involved in this work, but 550 00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:30.599 it is cost prohibitive, so to speak. We can simply shine the spotlight 551 00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:37.480 on our sources of information and we will not achieve results. It is clear 552 00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:40.840 to the whole world what happened. Then, even American analysts talk about it 553 00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:45.880 directly. It's true, yes, But here's a question you may able to 554 00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:51.559 answer. You worked in Germany famously. The Germans clearly know that their NATO 555 00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:55.400 partner did this, but they and it damaged their economy greatly. It may 556 00:49:55.440 --> 00:50:00.559 never recover. Why are they being silent about it? That's very confusing to 557 00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:08.800 me. Why wouldn't the Germans say something about it? This also confuses me. 558 00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:14.079 I like that putting his shrugging his shoulders at that, you know, 559 00:50:14.199 --> 00:50:17.440 like, I don't know. Uh, that's the body language thing coming in 560 00:50:17.519 --> 00:50:23.159 again. And it's fascinating that, Uh, Tucker actually puts a good question 561 00:50:23.239 --> 00:50:27.360 in here. I don't like Tucker Carlson. I really hate him. I 562 00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:30.920 find him despicable. He's exactly the kind of guy who I rewind in my 563 00:50:31.039 --> 00:50:36.199 head and figure he's exactly the kid that I you know, I never used 564 00:50:36.239 --> 00:50:38.920 to bully people. But this would be a kid who's asked needed to be 565 00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:43.920 kicked as a kid, if he had the same facial expressions that he has 566 00:50:43.960 --> 00:50:47.159 as an adult, it would just be one of those faces you want to 567 00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:52.760 and have to punch at some point. Could be the jersey thing and may 568 00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:58.119 maybe we'll go back to the neutering your your ex But let's continue on with 569 00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:01.079 this nord Stream discussion because I find it interesting. I like how he presents 570 00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:06.519 say, look, you know the beneficiaries are when it comes to European media. 571 00:51:06.599 --> 00:51:08.000 Come on, you you know this. You're in on it man. 572 00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:15.559 Of course he is, but we're supposed to pretend like he's an outsider and 573 00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:20.480 the hero of the alt media. So pay attention to that too. By 574 00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:22.440 the way, exactly the behavior of the hero of the alt media now, 575 00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:30.920 Tucker Carlson. But today's German leadership is guided by the interests of the collective 576 00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:37.519 West rather than its national interests. Otherwise it is difficult to explain the logic 577 00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:42.760 of their action or inaction. After all, it is not only about north 578 00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:46.559 Stream one which was blown up and the north Stream two was damaged, but 579 00:51:46.639 --> 00:51:51.880 one pipe is safe and sound, and gas can be supplied to Europe through 580 00:51:51.920 --> 00:51:59.159 it, but Germany does not open it. We're ready, please. There's 581 00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:04.440 another route through Poland called the Yamal Europe, which also allows for large flow. 582 00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:08.719 Poland has closed it, but Poland packs from the German hand. It 583 00:52:08.800 --> 00:52:14.519 receives money from the Pan European Funds, and Germany is the main donor to 584 00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:20.719 these Pan European funds. Germany feeds Poland to a certain extent, and they 585 00:52:21.079 --> 00:52:27.000 close their route to Germany. Why I don't understand Ukraine, to which the 586 00:52:27.079 --> 00:52:32.440 Germans supply weapons and give money. Germany is the second sponsor of the United 587 00:52:32.440 --> 00:52:38.039 States in terms of financial aid to Ukraine. There are two gas routes through 588 00:52:38.119 --> 00:52:45.239 Ukraine. They simply closed one route. The Ukrainians open the second route and 589 00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:50.480 please get gas from Russia. They do not open it. Why don't the 590 00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:54.400 Germans say, look, guys, we give you money and weapons, open 591 00:52:54.480 --> 00:52:59.039 up the vault. Please let the gas from Russia pass. True for us 592 00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:06.480 eyeing liquefied gas at exorbit prices in Europe, which brings the level of our 593 00:53:06.559 --> 00:53:12.480 competitiveness and economy in general down to zero. Do you want us to give 594 00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:16.480 you money? Let us have the decent existence to make money for our economy, 595 00:53:16.559 --> 00:53:22.360 because this is where the money we give you comes from. They refuse 596 00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:27.480 to do so, why ask them? That is what is like in their 597 00:53:27.559 --> 00:53:32.320 heads? Those are highly incompetent people. Well maybe see it's interesting that he 598 00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:40.840 questions the competency of the people as opposed to you know, other motives that 599 00:53:40.920 --> 00:53:46.840 could be discussed here. Right, So, how does this fascinating discussion conclude? 600 00:53:49.639 --> 00:53:52.440 Let's see if I can get the final the way it concludes. And 601 00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:54.719 then I got one more story just to look at real fast before I close 602 00:53:54.800 --> 00:54:00.199 the mic on this Wednesday night. Let's just look at the conclusion here, 603 00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:05.159 the last couple of minutes of the discussion between Tucker Carlson and Vladimir Putin. 604 00:54:05.599 --> 00:54:08.719 How does it end according to the video? And then we're going to take 605 00:54:08.719 --> 00:54:13.079 a look at an article passing me in the chatroom Atochelli dot com. You 606 00:54:13.079 --> 00:54:16.119 can follow with all the show notes, the references and everything that I've discussed 607 00:54:16.119 --> 00:54:21.039 tonight. By the way that's set in, they have to think what to 608 00:54:21.119 --> 00:54:24.760 do next. We're ready for this dialogue. Would you be willing to say 609 00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:35.320 congratulations NATO you one and just keep the situation where it is now it was. 610 00:54:37.519 --> 00:54:40.719 You know, it is a subject matter for the negotiations. No one 611 00:54:40.800 --> 00:54:46.159 is willing to conduct or to put it more accurately, Yeah, they're willing, 612 00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:51.920 but do not know how to do it. I know they want it. 613 00:54:51.920 --> 00:54:54.159 It is not just I see it, but I know they do want 614 00:54:54.199 --> 00:55:00.280 it, but they're struggling to understand how to do it. They have even 615 00:55:00.320 --> 00:55:04.840 the situation to the point where we are at. It is not us who 616 00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:09.039 have done that. It is our partners opponents who have done that. Well, 617 00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:15.679 now let them think how to reverse the situation. We're not against it. 618 00:55:15.679 --> 00:55:22.960 It would be funny if it were not so sad mission when you this 619 00:55:22.119 --> 00:55:29.119 endless mobilization in Ukraine, the hysteria, the domestic problems. Sooner or later 620 00:55:29.280 --> 00:55:36.199 it will result in agreement. You know, this probably sounds strange given the 621 00:55:36.199 --> 00:55:42.519 current situation. So I don't know, but the relations between the two people's 622 00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:50.480 will be rebuilt anyway. It will take a lot of time, but they 623 00:55:50.519 --> 00:55:58.960 will heal stomachs, but they would agreement. I'll give you very unusual examples. 624 00:55:59.400 --> 00:56:07.199 There's a combat encounter on the Bottlefield here a specific example, Ukrainian soldiers 625 00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:14.119 got encircled This is an example from real life. Our soldiers were shouting to 626 00:56:14.199 --> 00:56:19.079 them, there is no chance, surrender yourselves, come out and you will 627 00:56:19.119 --> 00:56:25.880 be alive. Suddenly the Ukrainian soldiers were squeaming from there in Russian perfect Russians, 628 00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:34.840 saying Russians do not surrender, and all of them perished. They still 629 00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:43.800 identify themselves as Russian. What is happening is, to a certain extent, 630 00:56:44.199 --> 00:56:49.159 an element of a civil war. Everyone in the West thinks that the Russian 631 00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:57.480 people have been split by hostilities forever. Now they will be reunited. The 632 00:56:57.639 --> 00:57:06.039 unity is still there. You present, Why are the Ukrainian authorities dismantling the 633 00:57:06.199 --> 00:57:13.960 Ukrainian Orthodox Church? Because it brings together not only the territory, it brings 634 00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:25.199 together our souls. No one will be able to separate the soul. Shall 635 00:57:25.199 --> 00:57:31.480 we end here or is there anything else? No? I think that's great. 636 00:57:32.760 --> 00:57:38.559 Thank you as president. Now there you go. So that's how that 637 00:57:38.599 --> 00:57:44.800 interview ended. You know you've done with me yet, Okay, fair enough. 638 00:57:45.559 --> 00:57:51.880 I think it's fascinating that he's presenting something that I've seen no evidence for. 639 00:57:52.840 --> 00:57:57.920 That when you're face down with you know, Russian troops about to kill 640 00:57:57.960 --> 00:58:00.360 you, that you're screaming back at them. Hey, Russians don't surrender even 641 00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:07.039 though they're in Ukrainian uniforms. Doesn't sound like something that really happened. I 642 00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:13.679 guess stranger things have happened in battlefields. But again, I'm not trying to 643 00:58:13.719 --> 00:58:17.199 judge this. I want you guys to take a listen to this and figure 644 00:58:17.239 --> 00:58:21.719 out what it is is really being said here, what the real purpose of 645 00:58:21.760 --> 00:58:24.760 it is. So with the final story for the night, here it is, 646 00:58:24.840 --> 00:58:30.760 and I'll go to uh cause I gotta chatter that often dumps a whole 647 00:58:30.840 --> 00:58:35.400 bunch of Fox News in the room, and I thought this headline was worth 648 00:58:35.400 --> 00:58:37.719 sharing, and I'll include it in the show notes as well. House Intel 649 00:58:37.800 --> 00:58:45.920 Chair Turner warns of quote serious national security threat end quote urges Biden to declassify. 650 00:58:46.440 --> 00:58:52.400 Kind of an alarming headline. But where's the beef right declassify? What? 651 00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:57.360 What is the national security threat? Let's look at the articles see if 652 00:58:57.400 --> 00:59:00.800 we can find out. House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike is urging President Biden to 653 00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:07.880 declassify information related to quote a serious national security threat. However, House Speaker 654 00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:13.760 Mike Johnson says the threat is not immediate and there is no need for public 655 00:59:13.920 --> 00:59:17.519 alarm. So it's serious, but it's not immediate. Sorry back to the 656 00:59:17.599 --> 00:59:22.880 article. Turner, Republican from Ohio, on Wednesday morning released a statement saying 657 00:59:22.920 --> 00:59:28.679 that the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence has made available to all members of 658 00:59:28.679 --> 00:59:35.280 Congress information concerning a serious national security threat. Quote. I am requesting the 659 00:59:35.320 --> 00:59:39.480 President Biden to classify all information related to this threat so that Congress, the 660 00:59:39.480 --> 00:59:45.079 Administration, and our allies can openly discuss the actions necessary to respond to this 661 00:59:45.119 --> 00:59:51.840 threat, he added. Fox News Digital obtained the notice sent to congressional members 662 00:59:51.880 --> 00:59:58.159 Wednesday, which pointed to an urgent matter with regard to destabilizing foreign military capability 663 00:59:58.840 --> 01:00:04.679 that should be known by all Congressional policy makers. A separate source told Fox 664 01:00:04.760 --> 01:00:12.079 News that this threat is concerning Russian capability, noting that the quote potential seriousness 665 01:00:12.079 --> 01:00:15.760 of the threat is grave end quote, but quote the threat is not immediate 666 01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:22.599 in nature end quote. And a Pentagon source told Fox News that the threat 667 01:00:22.639 --> 01:00:29.679 is related to space. Do you see how this staggers all the way through 668 01:00:29.719 --> 01:00:37.039 that eventually we find out that this is a Russian threat in space? Should 669 01:00:37.039 --> 01:00:47.039 I continue on? All? Right? Johnson, Republican Louisiana, La attempted 670 01:00:47.199 --> 01:00:52.840 to quell any panic caused by Turner's statement by explaining that last month he sent 671 01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:57.800 a letter to the White House quote requesting a meeting with the President to discuss 672 01:00:57.840 --> 01:01:02.559 the serious national security issue that is classified end quote. In response to the 673 01:01:02.639 --> 01:01:06.840 letter, a meeting is now scheduled for tomorrow on this matter here at the 674 01:01:06.880 --> 01:01:12.000 Capitol with the Gang of Four and with the President's National Security Advisor, Jake 675 01:01:12.079 --> 01:01:16.960 Sullivan. Johnson said, I will press the administration to take appropriate action, 676 01:01:17.119 --> 01:01:24.480 and everybody can be comforted by that. Johnson said, he quote saw a 677 01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:29.440 Chairman Turner's statement on the issue, and I want to assure the American people 678 01:01:29.840 --> 01:01:32.639 that there's no need for public alarm end quote quote. We are going to 679 01:01:32.679 --> 01:01:37.320 work together to address this matter, as we do all sensitive matters that are 680 01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:42.920 classified, Johnson said. And beyond that, I'm not at liberty to disclose 681 01:01:42.960 --> 01:01:46.400 classified information and really can't say much of that, but we just want to 682 01:01:46.400 --> 01:01:52.840 assure everyone steady hands are at the wheel. We're working on it. There's 683 01:01:52.880 --> 01:01:58.679 no need for alarm. Now. What's really funny is what pops up right 684 01:01:58.760 --> 01:02:04.119 under that is Biden's memory struggles could imperil. National security defense experts warn not 685 01:02:04.159 --> 01:02:08.880 only weak but confused. That's the sub headline and you can click on it 686 01:02:08.920 --> 01:02:14.239 anyway. I'll put the link in the chat room, although somebody else already 687 01:02:14.239 --> 01:02:17.880 did atoceelly dot com and include it in the show notes. But what are 688 01:02:17.920 --> 01:02:27.800 they saying here? A very generalized open threat Russian something in space and I 689 01:02:27.840 --> 01:02:32.760 don't know, nothing specific but a lot of words to say very little in 690 01:02:32.840 --> 01:02:37.039 the Fox News article. This is why I get so frustrated with them, 691 01:02:37.679 --> 01:02:44.119 Just like CNN repeats itself and makes all sorts of contradictory statements to point out 692 01:02:44.119 --> 01:02:50.159 stuff that is irrelevant most of the time and leads you in other directions away 693 01:02:50.199 --> 01:02:53.320 from this is related to this, and this is related to that. And 694 01:02:53.440 --> 01:03:00.599 after a while, when you play the connective tissue game, you know athlete's 695 01:03:00.599 --> 01:03:07.119 foot is related to your dandriff in some way. It's just, you know, 696 01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:13.000 come on, man. But the idea that there's steady hands at the 697 01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:15.639 wheel, or that there will be anytime soon, considering that we got the 698 01:03:15.639 --> 01:03:22.159 two parties running the two old men against each other, you know, I 699 01:03:22.199 --> 01:03:24.199 want to do a Putin laugh here. Maybe I should isolate the Putin laugh 700 01:03:24.320 --> 01:03:29.880 and just have it at the ready all the time. Putin and Carlson, 701 01:03:30.679 --> 01:03:36.719 maybe you blew up the Nord Stream pipeline. You gotta love that one. 702 01:03:37.280 --> 01:03:44.360 Just with my constipation face, I sank down there and blew up the nord 703 01:03:44.400 --> 01:03:53.800 Stream. I have an alibi, I mean seriously, But look, there 704 01:03:53.880 --> 01:03:58.119 is a lot of serious information there and a lot of things that can be 705 01:03:58.159 --> 01:04:01.239 gleaned from that interview. And I've got a lot of thoughts about my analysis 706 01:04:01.239 --> 01:04:05.320 of what I saw in the body language and everything else. But why should 707 01:04:05.400 --> 01:04:09.760 you listen to me? I just gave you the commentary and played for you 708 01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:15.639 the translation so that you could judge for yourself what's being said. I assure 709 01:04:15.679 --> 01:04:19.719 you that there are multiple layers to be appealed here. It's you know, 710 01:04:20.039 --> 01:04:26.639 people talk about peeling the onion right and all that good stuff. Definitely you 711 01:04:26.679 --> 01:04:30.639 should because there's a lot of layers. And sometimes when you leave the onion 712 01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:34.800 sit and you know, decay a little, it starts sprouting other onions. 713 01:04:34.840 --> 01:04:40.440 It will do that, believe it. Believe it. And one of the 714 01:04:40.440 --> 01:04:45.199 headlines that I didn't read from from the Bulwark earlier in the show, regarding 715 01:04:45.239 --> 01:04:51.159 the selection process and how USA, politics can do brain damage. Here's the 716 01:04:51.280 --> 01:04:56.559 thing. This one was on the Bulwark Right Decision twenty twenty four. The 717 01:04:56.599 --> 01:05:02.719 headline is a well meaning old man versus a corrupt old man. Here's my 718 01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:08.039 problem, folks, and I dare you to really argue with me too bad 719 01:05:09.400 --> 01:05:16.119 which one is which? So, no matter who you are, where you 720 01:05:16.159 --> 01:05:19.320 are, when you are, I am merely O'Kelly. 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