1 00:00:26,519 --> 00:00:29,839 Hello everybody. Welcome to That's No Matter All, your weekly rock and heavy 2 00:00:29,839 --> 00:00:33,399 metal podcast, and welcome to another edition of Hyperblasts will become at the week's 3 00:00:33,399 --> 00:00:37,000 news in bite science fashion. My name is parent Haish elliott Is. I'm 4 00:00:37,039 --> 00:00:41,119 going to assume it as we speak in a queue download. Everyone else seems 5 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,039 to be but Sam Dignon is back. And after everything that you got up 6 00:00:45,039 --> 00:00:48,119 to in your time away, you came back and west Ham won the European 7 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,799 Trophy as well. Lovely you dizzing off that from last night. Honestly, 8 00:00:52,039 --> 00:00:54,640 like being a west Ham fan is not easy. I'll tell you that. 9 00:00:54,759 --> 00:00:59,679 Like this club like they they tires and lows and west Ham mostly lows like 10 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:06,640 or middles. But somehow we have gone in one of European Trophy up the 11 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,000 Irons. There you go. I hold you too that when we're talking about 12 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,400 fucking the Final Frontier or whatever whenever we get rounds who were talking about the 13 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:18,560 special whatever that appears. But you were away first at Slam Dunk Festival and 14 00:01:18,599 --> 00:01:22,079 then up to Edinburgh to see Bruce Springsteen, which I'm sure you're going to 15 00:01:22,159 --> 00:01:25,480 want to go off about in just a second. I got to see one 16 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,280 of the bills of the year, with Carcass bringing along onto Others and Conjura 17 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,680 on their first UK club tour since the nineties, which was Bananas. The 18 00:01:33,719 --> 00:01:37,000 Liverpool date obviously was a hometown show for Carcass as well, which was particularly 19 00:01:37,079 --> 00:01:40,640 special to be at which they hadn't actually played a show like that since the 20 00:01:40,719 --> 00:01:44,560 heart Work tour, and they brought Bill Steers, Mum out and everything, 21 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,120 and it was all a really nice time. The two support acts were, 22 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,519 you know, both fascinating for how kind of like utterly different the sounds and 23 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,120 vibes were for like such a top to bottom stacked bill, but nothing remotely 24 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,760 similar really. Conjurer, I love how they just bully crowds into submission like 25 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:00,319 every time. Yeah, Like I've got to say like that. They've just 26 00:02:00,359 --> 00:02:04,560 recently come back from a US tour with Kennis as well, and I was 27 00:02:04,599 --> 00:02:07,120 seeing like some of my American you know, mutuals getting to see Conjure and 28 00:02:07,159 --> 00:02:09,879 being like, oh, my fucking god, Conjure are like the best live 29 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:14,000 metal band in the world. Imagine half to play after that another kind of 30 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,840 thing, and it's like, yeah, we're quite lucky to just have them 31 00:02:15,879 --> 00:02:19,000 here opening bills like this, and to be able to see, you know, 32 00:02:19,039 --> 00:02:23,719 the carnage that happens during hardal, the sheer force of throat when Dan 33 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,960 comes from the front of the stage, sounds Mike and just you know bellows. 34 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,319 That is always amazing. Yeah, in a supports like they are still 35 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,360 quite leaning heavily on the Maya stuff, but they opened with Suffer alone, 36 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,639 which was like a jump scare, so that was good unto others. Meanwhile, 37 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,840 they keep tour of extreme metal bands when there's a sense that like half 38 00:02:39,879 --> 00:02:43,680 the people there are confused as to why the fuck someone's singing at them the 39 00:02:43,719 --> 00:02:46,199 audacity and going hull but you know, scared of a little bit melody. 40 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:51,759 There's some definite headshakers and skeptics, but equally a gaggle of people up the 41 00:02:51,759 --> 00:02:54,520 front going mental for like Heroin and Nightfall. You know, great songs, 42 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:59,199 great showman ship, tweaking the setlist just a little bit every time they come 43 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:00,919 over here. After Download, which they got added last minute too, along 44 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:05,080 with Creeper, they're off to record a new album and then I very much 45 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,560 hope that the next time they come over here will be another headline tour, 46 00:03:07,599 --> 00:03:09,560 because I would love to see some you know, Strength slide be stuff which 47 00:03:09,599 --> 00:03:13,560 are just released as well, on top of the course any new material they 48 00:03:13,599 --> 00:03:16,960 have that's out by then, Sam. Festival wise, we've got a bunch 49 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,879 of problems that we need to talk about. Say first, why don't you 50 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,199 take a moment to talk about the boss? Right? So yeah, Springsteen 51 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,240 obviously is one of my most sped I've been looking forward to this gig the 52 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,719 ages, and this is why I've not done like a lot of vessels, 53 00:03:30,719 --> 00:03:32,919 because I was like, I'm not missing the next Springsteen tour. So I 54 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,520 couldn't get tickets for London they flew out, So I was like, well, 55 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:38,599 let's get to get to Edinburgh and go up a truck up there because 56 00:03:38,599 --> 00:03:44,000 that's how much I would like nanted see Springsteen on stage at seven No supports 57 00:03:44,479 --> 00:03:50,520 three hour set like this, and it was just incredible, Like he's seventy 58 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:55,280 three and he has more like charisma and just like rock star stage presence than 59 00:03:55,400 --> 00:04:00,439 bands who collectively don't reach his age instead of just like the energy an enthusiasm 60 00:04:00,479 --> 00:04:03,639 he kind of exudes is insane. How he can keep going that long, 61 00:04:03,759 --> 00:04:06,800 like even after a couple of days before when he had a tumble on stage 62 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:13,400 and kind of like carried on like he's just the most like incredible showman I've 63 00:04:13,439 --> 00:04:16,319 ever seen, just as like a performer setless wise, like they're coming on 64 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,439 opening with no surrender and just I was like from the moment they opened with 65 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:24,439 that, like absolute banger. I was completely sold on it from the moment 66 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:30,680 go every memory is like huge band of like twelve thirteen musicians on stage with 67 00:04:30,759 --> 00:04:32,639 him, like he's coming out individual at the start to kind of like get 68 00:04:32,639 --> 00:04:36,120 their moment. As a three hour set, you would expect there is going 69 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:40,800 to be a little bit of filler in the middle where they kind of get 70 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,240 into it, like a slight sort of like jam session thing with someone like 71 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,879 the more like let the band have the moments, and I've discovered Springton gets 72 00:04:46,879 --> 00:04:49,759 away with things I would not let other bands night As get away with because 73 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,199 I was totally in on the band having their jam session. I was like, 74 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:57,480 yeah, you go and have your keyboard solo keyboard mate, like, 75 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,240 let's go. Because at the same time, Springs is so enthusiastic in him 76 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:05,920 encouraging the band to kind of like play. He's still like in the first 77 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:11,160 half, still dropping hits like the Promised Land and just um some of the 78 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,959 most recent album Ghosts that that was incredible. It was like track two, 79 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,600 like really just awesome set lists. The back half of the set list though, 80 00:05:17,639 --> 00:05:21,319 which was when it got really sort spectac where it was just I saw 81 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:26,879 like the fucking like nine song Encore or whatever it was, and it's like, 82 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,560 I think, I think like basing more than two songs long. You're 83 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,160 pushing it nice, Springsteen, do your seventh song oncor make do it. 84 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,680 Some people are going like when you when you're opening your on call with a 85 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,839 Born in the US and then going straight to Born to run. It's the 86 00:05:40,879 --> 00:05:43,959 best moment of my life. Like, the second half of the set list 87 00:05:44,079 --> 00:05:46,680 was genuinely like the funal ninety minutes was the best thing I've ever seen live. 88 00:05:46,759 --> 00:05:50,279 I can honestly say that I was completely just so. I was with 89 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,560 Mark as well was with me for that and the two of us were just 90 00:05:54,600 --> 00:06:00,160 like happy dancing singing. It was genuinely incredible and like that he ends it 91 00:06:00,199 --> 00:06:04,439 after doing that the most like raucous version of tenth Avenue freeze Out, like 92 00:06:04,519 --> 00:06:08,800 given the entire band their instructions, ends it with him, just him, 93 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,399 with an acoustic guitar doing a song of the latest album, not not the 94 00:06:12,519 --> 00:06:14,959 covers album, the one, the last original album, and this, and 95 00:06:15,079 --> 00:06:17,519 how we can make this huge stadium show feel really intimate when he's doing a 96 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,439 member like that and kind of having connect with members of the crowd. And 97 00:06:20,519 --> 00:06:25,199 I was quite far back, but it still felt like it didn't feel like 98 00:06:25,199 --> 00:06:28,000 I was, you know, way off in the distance watching his title speck. 99 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,240 I could feel his performance, his kind of like connection with the crowd, 100 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,720 and it was really like impressive in that way, and felt like he 101 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,360 genuine clearly he still loves doing this and it's going to carry on doing it 102 00:06:38,399 --> 00:06:42,120 until he can't. But I was so bad I got I've been able to 103 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,399 finally get to see it. My dad, who is like the reason I 104 00:06:44,399 --> 00:06:47,480 like Springsteen, was getting competitive with me about all I've seen him. The 105 00:06:47,519 --> 00:06:49,759 River in Fall. I was like, yes, Dad, we bought your 106 00:06:49,759 --> 00:06:53,199 tickets to that one. You don't need to, you know, remind me. 107 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,160 But yeah, just one of the best, now, probably the best 108 00:06:56,319 --> 00:07:00,079 I've ever seen, just in terms of like the note stage the stage show 109 00:07:00,199 --> 00:07:05,000 is him and the band performing and they are just so engaging and it just 110 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:10,839 just absolutely incredible for three hours. I wasn't bored for a second. Love 111 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,879 that love to hear that slam Dunk. We're gonna be kind. You know 112 00:07:13,959 --> 00:07:15,720 it's not We're not doing a slam Dunk review episode. We'd be briefed through 113 00:07:15,759 --> 00:07:19,639 it very quickly. Let's say, top five sets, What were the best 114 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:24,279 things you saw at slam Dunk in brief best things? Oh this is what 115 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,560 do you know what? We'll start with number five, Scene Queen. It 116 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,839 felt like everyone I can't remember who was on at the same time as him, 117 00:07:31,839 --> 00:07:35,199 but it felt like from what I saw, everyone went to go see 118 00:07:35,199 --> 00:07:39,800 Scene Queen, and whoever was on at the same time struggled. Look, 119 00:07:39,879 --> 00:07:42,399 what I will say is there's a couple of little kinks she needs to work 120 00:07:42,439 --> 00:07:45,399 out as a live act. There's a bit too much reliance on backing tracks. 121 00:07:45,439 --> 00:07:47,680 She's only got a drummer and a guitarist. Yeah, but she's also 122 00:07:47,759 --> 00:07:50,800 still only got two EPs that it's a very kind of new act. But 123 00:07:50,959 --> 00:07:56,800 I like her as a performer, her stage presence, her charisma again so 124 00:07:56,879 --> 00:08:03,480 engaging, like so charming. Eighteen Plass on the following agains against Remember the 125 00:08:03,639 --> 00:08:07,399 crowd shouted out the band name and you could like quite audibly hear it, 126 00:08:07,439 --> 00:08:09,199 and that was a fun moment. But yeah, Scene Queen was fantastic. 127 00:08:11,399 --> 00:08:18,120 Creeper, like of course Creeper just absolutely incredible, a bit of an odd 128 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,399 set list, but at the same time, Cried to Heaven, which you 129 00:08:20,439 --> 00:08:22,480 know, like you were both raving about on the review show last week. 130 00:08:24,319 --> 00:08:28,319 That live absolutely incredible and they are now, like I say, in their 131 00:08:28,399 --> 00:08:33,000 cool eighties vampire era where they're all in leather jackets, like striking about the 132 00:08:33,039 --> 00:08:37,240 stage proper rock stars. Shit. Um, I don't want to say this 133 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,639 with the biggest spires, but Four Years Strong were absolutely incredible as well. 134 00:08:39,639 --> 00:08:43,879 This was when I had just run of like, um fo you strong strength 135 00:08:43,879 --> 00:08:48,320 to the Mendingers, but yeah, Four Year Strong were awesome. Like I've 136 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,840 been waiting a while to see them again since they that last album really kind 137 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,519 of got me back on board with like loving what they're doing, and they 138 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,799 just came and it was just so like catching you folks, but mean and 139 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,840 like hefty at the same time, which I think was one of the things 140 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,320 that it's always been grabbed up for you as strong as they are like an 141 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,600 actual heavy pop punk band. The new song sounded great, the hits off 142 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,559 like the early albums sounding awesome. That was typically brilliant, Yellow Card Paying 143 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:16,120 Ocean, Avenue was great. But my number two set of the day, 144 00:09:16,159 --> 00:09:20,799 I just want to give quick shout because Avenue was incredible and Shikari as a 145 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:26,039 headliner was just euphoric in terms of like I was with my mates, we 146 00:09:26,039 --> 00:09:28,159 were just having the time of our lives, singing along, dancing, watching 147 00:09:28,159 --> 00:09:33,120 the spects. Called that Shkira putting on kiss for the whole world, Please 148 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,000 set me on fire. They sound incredible live, blood shot, so quite 149 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,919 a bit of new stuff still, you know, dropping Labyrinth and anything can 150 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,120 happen off of Take the Skies a real nice career spanning set list. The 151 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:48,000 only thing that kind of got short changed a bit was the Spark But they 152 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,480 were incredible. But does that mean does that mean Number one is Kids in 153 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:56,639 Glass Houses? No? I didn't see Kids in Glass Houses because they clashed 154 00:09:56,639 --> 00:09:58,399 with my number one pick, which is my favorite band, which is the 155 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:03,720 Mental. Yeah. Like it was one of those where I was like I 156 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,120 could watch fifteen minutes of Kissing Us House and then have to go the entire 157 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:11,159 length of the festival site Squeeze into the tent that's a real pain in the 158 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,519 us to get into, which we will probably covering some of the logistic problems 159 00:10:13,519 --> 00:10:18,320 that Slammed kind of enjured. Or I could go watch four year Strong straight 160 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,039 into the Menzingers without a break in the tent, and I was just like, 161 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,039 I'm just gonna go do that. And the Menzingers were the best band 162 00:10:24,039 --> 00:10:30,720 of the festival because the Menzingers came on then played the Menzinger's songs like they 163 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,879 can't really say much else apart from they played a brand new song which sounded 164 00:10:33,919 --> 00:10:37,960 amazing, So that the album is done from the sounds of things and we 165 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,200 should probably be hearing more from it soon. But yeah, just the best 166 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,320 songs. They are just the coolest band. Mensinger's awesome. There you go. 167 00:10:45,399 --> 00:10:46,799 And I'm very glad to hear you know that thing because that gives a 168 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,200 that gives a positive impression of the day, right, Like there were awesome 169 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:56,000 bands, awesome sets were played, you know, memories were forged, all 170 00:10:56,039 --> 00:10:58,440 that good stuff you want from a festival. However, again, I was 171 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,759 not at slam Dunk. My my girlfriend was a slam Dunk. She went 172 00:11:01,799 --> 00:11:07,039 to slam Dunk North, which I have gathered is even worse than what you 173 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:11,519 may have slam Dunk again, as an outsider, just going off what I 174 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,679 saw online, what I heard from her, etc. Slam Like a couple 175 00:11:13,639 --> 00:11:18,919 of weeks ago was marred by I think the most volatile reaction to a festival 176 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:24,639 that I have personally ever seen in the rock scene in the UK. Like, 177 00:11:24,159 --> 00:11:28,840 I don't remember anything like the I was getting ship for saying I enjoyed 178 00:11:28,879 --> 00:11:31,279 it, people giving me a bit stick for saying I had a good time. 179 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:35,399 Yeah, I don't remember seeing anything like the uproar that we saw around 180 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,519 slam Dunk a couple of weeks ago. And now as we are talking about 181 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:45,360 this, we're currently seeing it happen again with the download car parking situation. 182 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,639 Car park seems to be the consistent who, the real consistent who called that 183 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:54,000 being the fucking theme of the summer being inadequate car punk car parking quickly On 184 00:11:54,039 --> 00:11:56,320 the download front, again, this is happening as we are speaking, so 185 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:01,519 we will yet see how it turns out. You've got to imagine that at 186 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,720 least part of it is due to the extra day on download and maybe a 187 00:12:05,759 --> 00:12:09,679 sense that obviously yesterday, as we're recording us with Wednesday, everyone turning up 188 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,600 for that as opposed to be like the people download normally. You know, 189 00:12:13,639 --> 00:12:16,799 half turned up on Wednesday, half turned up on Thursday. Festival kicks off 190 00:12:16,799 --> 00:12:20,679 Friday, so it's kind of split. Whereas this year there's still obviously been 191 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,840 a spill of people turning up on the Wednesday and the Thursday, but I 192 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,960 imagine far more people turning up on the one day is then that that day 193 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,000 was. Yeah, But then we're also seeing I've seen a lot of people 194 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,159 again, this is happening at the moment, and we'll see how the dust 195 00:12:33,159 --> 00:12:35,840 cells. But I'm just kind of you noticed, It's it's routing through the 196 00:12:35,879 --> 00:12:37,679 fucking the tweets that are getting out there of what's going on. A lot 197 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,799 of people are talking about the like you know, being directed to various car 198 00:12:41,799 --> 00:12:45,879 parks, being told to follow signs, but the signs aren't there or you 199 00:12:45,919 --> 00:12:50,000 know, not well you know, signed themselves or whatever, so people are 200 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,840 just driving. Over Age is getting lost. And we also heard from Elliott 201 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,720 who said that a number of the people who's coming to the festival with UM 202 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,120 have been unable to have their risk and scanned because of a lack of Wi 203 00:13:01,159 --> 00:13:03,799 Fi on the site, which I presumi means the scanners going down again. 204 00:13:05,039 --> 00:13:07,759 I don't exactly know what was going on. We will hear from some of 205 00:13:07,799 --> 00:13:11,799 these things where we go to talk about download festival after the event, but 206 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:16,159 it's it's very fucking weird to see again, like two weeks apart, these 207 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:22,240 repeated things suddenly happening. But like I can't like say to it. But 208 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:28,039 from my experience slam Dunk's self was the online reaction apart from the car park 209 00:13:28,919 --> 00:13:33,159 was exaggerated on site, with the exception of trying to get in and out 210 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,639 of the crank tent because they only had one side of this tent open alternate 211 00:13:35,759 --> 00:13:41,519 stages that was a real choke point. And the food vendors, depending on 212 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,639 the time of day you went, they were they were long queues. But 213 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:48,279 I again, I my thing was, I don't see how me and all 214 00:13:48,279 --> 00:13:52,759 my friends were collectively so lucky that we all managed to avoid quing more than 215 00:13:52,799 --> 00:13:56,000 a couple of minutes for water, not cuing for a beer, queuing twenty 216 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:01,039 minutes tops for food. Like I well, I think there were people who 217 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,759 just using a little bit of initiative, you could have avoided the worst of 218 00:14:03,759 --> 00:14:07,919 these scesiful problems like not using the toilets and the water right by the main 219 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,120 stage where it's the busiest going to one of the ones on the other side. 220 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,759 Again North, from the sounds things North was a complete well because the 221 00:14:15,759 --> 00:14:18,279 car parking situation, I think certainly even at South sounded like it was, 222 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,600 Yeah, that's the one that was like, I'm not going to defend yeah, 223 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:26,840 which I don't imagine you will have driven there because yeah, I had 224 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:31,600 no trouble. By the sounds of it, there were issues with people essentially 225 00:14:31,639 --> 00:14:33,679 that they kind of let everyone into the general car parts, meaning that people 226 00:14:33,679 --> 00:14:39,720 who had paid for specific allocate park South, they will allow people to pay 227 00:14:39,759 --> 00:14:41,799 on the day. Yeah, and that's that seemed like. And you know 228 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:46,279 again it's I saw a lot of people who feel like they've just kind of 229 00:14:46,759 --> 00:14:48,240 gave up and turned away because if you're circling around a car park for a 230 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,039 fucking five hours, like um, missing most of what you want to see, 231 00:14:52,039 --> 00:14:56,240 that it's not good, you know, at all. As said again, 232 00:14:56,279 --> 00:15:00,159 I can't speak to either of these things. South that which happened the 233 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:01,679 day before, didn't it, So it South happened, Yeah, and there 234 00:15:01,679 --> 00:15:05,080 were there was talk online of like, oh, this isn't going well, 235 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:11,279 right, and then North happened and it fucking doubled, right, And so 236 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:16,440 it seems like that was both a build up of the kind of just the 237 00:15:16,639 --> 00:15:20,840 feeling around it and also the fact that North seemed to have double the problems 238 00:15:20,039 --> 00:15:22,799 from it. The food cues, by the sounds of it at North were 239 00:15:22,919 --> 00:15:28,200 fucking serious and yeah that again that that sounds like that was really yeah. 240 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:33,120 And there was a picture of kind of the food soil seemed to be all 241 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,799 kind of a similar kind of ones like marketplace area, And there was a 242 00:15:35,799 --> 00:15:39,720 picture that someone had taken of just like kind of a sea of heads and 243 00:15:39,759 --> 00:15:43,759 it looked like the photos of like the mal outside bucking and Palace for the 244 00:15:43,759 --> 00:15:48,960 coronation. It was like there was no clear like cues of like where you 245 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,480 know, if you're queuing for let's say this burger van whatever you go in 246 00:15:50,519 --> 00:15:56,320 this one. It just looked like a mass of people with no kind of 247 00:15:56,399 --> 00:16:00,320 organization and it looked like something I'm going to hurt as well. That it's 248 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:07,240 like almost feels like you who get crushed in there and did not look good 249 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:11,000 at all. My girlfriend also again her particular anecdote of like everyone has their 250 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,720 one story of the thing that happened closest to them whatever. She said. 251 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,159 She was queuing for food, and she was queuing for a long time going 252 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:23,320 up to this one particular stand, and the person behind her, the one 253 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,279 of the security guards or whatever, came over and said, oh, you 254 00:16:27,159 --> 00:16:33,039 are essentially like the cut off point. No one who is like after you, 255 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:38,879 it's going to get food because the transactions on the card machines had reached 256 00:16:38,879 --> 00:16:41,639 like a maximum amount. It was like, we can't process any more transactions. 257 00:16:41,679 --> 00:16:45,440 So if you were behind essentially my girlfriend in this queue for this stand, 258 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,399 and you've been queueing there for god knows how fucking long, you know, 259 00:16:48,399 --> 00:16:49,120 half an hour, whatever it might be, you can be queue in 260 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,720 there for that whole time and then be told, oh, actually you can't 261 00:16:52,759 --> 00:16:55,279 come and get this food, and then you'll have to go and que somewhere 262 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,919 else. Were the more time, you know, fucking ridiculous day of affairs. 263 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,559 The originals apparently burst. It was like a river of pisco through like 264 00:17:03,639 --> 00:17:07,079 it seemed it seemed like carnage. Yeah, Like, like I said, 265 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:08,880 North from some of the things did seem like a lot of the complaints were 266 00:17:10,279 --> 00:17:12,920 very legit, and it sounded like it was a real a mess. South. 267 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:17,279 I can honestly just go from my own experience that wasn't perfect. There 268 00:17:17,279 --> 00:17:19,559 were definite problems. But I think I don't know if this is some people 269 00:17:19,559 --> 00:17:23,079 who have like this is their first time leaving the house in like two years 270 00:17:23,079 --> 00:17:27,000 to go to a big event and they've just kind of not taken the time 271 00:17:27,039 --> 00:17:30,839 to plan things out properly. I don't know. But South was, yeah, 272 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:36,400 as bad as I'm not going to again, because there is very much 273 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,119 the possibility that people experience things just kind of out of you know, your 274 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:42,839 peripheral view. But like it seemed like South had mild problems and then North 275 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:47,839 had serious problems. And yeah, we had a question today about whether this 276 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,599 is like poor event organization or if it is, as you say, the 277 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,799 adjusted expectations of festival goers kind of post pandemic, you know, for a 278 00:17:55,799 --> 00:17:59,359 while. But we've had a couple of summers now where festivals coming back, 279 00:17:59,559 --> 00:18:03,960 and nothing like this has happened in terms of the backclash to a single event. 280 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,119 We didn't have anything like this to this scale in twenty twenty one or 281 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:08,519 twenty twenty two, So it feels like, you know, there's no smoke 282 00:18:08,559 --> 00:18:14,000 without fire, and the you know that the statement that they made first of 283 00:18:14,039 --> 00:18:15,920 all of being like, you know, we acknowledge there were a problem as 284 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,880 old. Everyone just fucking like when insane on it like threw it right back 285 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,519 out them, and then they had to open up like a feedback survey essentially 286 00:18:22,559 --> 00:18:26,279 complaints, which again I've not seen a festival in our you know, sort 287 00:18:26,319 --> 00:18:32,079 of sphere um doing it. Seems again, I've never seen anything quite like 288 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,880 it. Well with the whole that they're staming, like what else were people 289 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,559 expecting slam lunk to salve? Then, like we we you know, we 290 00:18:38,559 --> 00:18:41,319 were told we were up to standards, we weren't over capacity and all that. 291 00:18:41,319 --> 00:18:44,400 If that's what they've been told, that's what they've been told, and 292 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,480 they and they I think people wanted to be told they're getting a refund. 293 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,400 I mean again, if you are someone who fucking got stuck in a car 294 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:55,079 part for six hours, maybe probably should have refund, you know, yeah, 295 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:56,680 I know, no I agree with that, but there was just there's 296 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,440 some weird things. I think part of it. I think, you know, 297 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,880 these of festivals are probably trying to cut costs and find a little like 298 00:19:04,279 --> 00:19:07,519 sure becaus where they can cut costs a little bit. And they were also 299 00:19:07,799 --> 00:19:11,079 Download and Slam Dunk. This is the first time they've been sold out, 300 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,680 like like in god knows how long Slam look at the new sites, the 301 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,279 first time they've ever been sold out, So that's more people than ever. 302 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,440 Download is obviously completely sold out and I can't remember the last time I saw 303 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,119 that happen. So that's the volume of people they're dealing with. I like, 304 00:19:26,519 --> 00:19:30,319 I think it is somewhere in the middle of the festival organizations. They 305 00:19:30,319 --> 00:19:33,519 are definitely slipping up somewhere. I don't know if it's where they've been cuting 306 00:19:33,519 --> 00:19:38,079 costs or just genuine just out of the blue mishaps. Who knows, But 307 00:19:40,519 --> 00:19:42,319 yeah, I think some people might just need to Like I think some people 308 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:47,559 are just not expect not planning things out maybe or like if everyone's going to 309 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,079 the same place that you know the peak time, that's going to be busier. 310 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,400 But yeah, I can't I think it's early days were download right now. 311 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,000 I do hope that after this initial rush that we've seen, it clears 312 00:19:56,039 --> 00:19:59,279 up and people are able to have a great rest their weekend. I mean, 313 00:19:59,319 --> 00:20:00,759 Download might be lucky that it's all happened on the day where there's no 314 00:20:00,839 --> 00:20:03,000 bands and people have just been sat in a car for that. Yeah, 315 00:20:03,039 --> 00:20:06,359 I mean, I mean it's still happening again. It's still been happening today 316 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,079 as we've be talking about it. The download Twitter accounts has been constantly updating 317 00:20:08,079 --> 00:20:11,680 with travel with maation and stuff. I hope people are able to get into 318 00:20:11,799 --> 00:20:15,279 the Metallica tonight. Right again, we'll hear back about this slam Dunk. 319 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,559 I think a lot of people aren't going to go back right like they've had 320 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,680 it particularly. I think people will. I think people will talk and they'll 321 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:23,880 go back. It depends what the line appears. Now. Certainly there were 322 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,359 some people I think if you know, particularly maybe if they went to north 323 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,799 and it was particularly serious or whatever like, and that was their experience. 324 00:20:30,839 --> 00:20:33,720 So I think, you know, whether some of it exaggeration. I still 325 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,279 think that there are clear issues that Sam slam Dunk need to address if they're 326 00:20:37,279 --> 00:20:41,519 gonna, you know, kind of improve the thing going forward. So that's 327 00:20:41,519 --> 00:20:45,039 the events of the last couple of weekends. I suppose the AB will see 328 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:52,079 what goes down with Download News proper starts with something that is very very bizarre. 329 00:20:52,519 --> 00:20:56,119 It's whatever the hell is going almost lipknot right now, because I mean 330 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,079 this almost seems like something that we're almost recording a day too early for too 331 00:21:00,079 --> 00:21:04,720 truly, we're talking about developing story. So the first thing that happened is 332 00:21:04,839 --> 00:21:10,279 that Clown announced that he wasn't going to be part of this European tour that 333 00:21:10,319 --> 00:21:12,680 is currently happening as we speak, because he's staying at home in order to 334 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,119 care for some sick family. And that is you know, it's not it's 335 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:22,039 not a band shaking announcement, right like obviously we it's completely understandable. We 336 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:26,319 absolutely universonal lives come first. Yeah, obviously, we we absolutely wish our 337 00:21:26,319 --> 00:21:30,680 best to to to Sean and you know the surrounding creating family and so on. 338 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,160 But you imagine, you know, when it comes around just lit we're 339 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:34,519 doing new music whatever. Eventually he's going to return to the band. This 340 00:21:34,559 --> 00:21:38,359 isn't a long term kind of issue for for the future of the band. 341 00:21:40,839 --> 00:21:45,759 The next day, as far as I can tell, they announced in a 342 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:52,759 very sudden, very short, very lacking in lunch to the point ye lacking 343 00:21:52,759 --> 00:22:00,640 in information statement announced that Craig Jones, the long time sample playing member of 344 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:06,200 Slip not Pinhead himself, is partning ways with the bands. He is an 345 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,079 original member. He's been in the band for I think twenty seven years. 346 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,319 Of the stat I saw earlier, one of you know, the handful of 347 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,279 original members who were there going back, which you don't remember, like it's 348 00:22:15,279 --> 00:22:18,279 even Jim Root isn't technically an original member. Even Corey Taylor isn't technically an 349 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,960 original member like Craig I think you know, probably played on Mate, Feet 350 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:26,720 Kill Repeat. That's how far back we are we are going with this and 351 00:22:26,759 --> 00:22:30,480 out of nowhere, this statement that doesn't say anything. It was just with 352 00:22:30,599 --> 00:22:36,759 part away in a way that was so sudden. And you've got to remember 353 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,680 this European tour is happening now. They played their first show yesterday. This 354 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:49,599 statement came out hours before they played the first show of the European Festal run. 355 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,119 Extremely fucking bizarre. You would expect that to happen, you know, 356 00:22:53,559 --> 00:22:57,160 before the tour takes on again. We're going to talk about what this might 357 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,640 mean for Sliping not whatever in terms of losing Craig Jones whatever in a second. 358 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,440 But the story didn't stop there, because then even stranger, that statement 359 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,880 was then deleted from all the sociality pages I just vanished and everything that we 360 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,680 saw for just yeah, we're parting with Graig Jones was no longer there anymore. 361 00:23:11,839 --> 00:23:17,920 But then what they uploaded in its place was a photograph of a new 362 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:23,680 masked member. What the fuck does any of this mean? I have neither. 363 00:23:23,799 --> 00:23:29,160 It has been a weird turbulent time for slip knot like I mean, 364 00:23:29,319 --> 00:23:32,960 I mean they were banned him are no strangers to you know, like turbulent 365 00:23:33,079 --> 00:23:37,000 kind of like moments in their career, But this one just feels so just 366 00:23:37,599 --> 00:23:42,680 bizarre in how it's all playing out without any explanation, right in the middle 367 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,880 of like right at the start of a European tour that's kicking off as it's 368 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,359 going. You know, it's not even like the build up to the towel. 369 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,319 You know, they're rolling out. They played the show yesterday, the 370 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,480 day they made the announcement. They're playing download on what Sunday? Is it 371 00:23:55,599 --> 00:24:03,039 Saturday or Sunday Sunday? And so I mean obvious clown not being there for 372 00:24:03,079 --> 00:24:06,000 this particular a tempt taught again completely understandable. We hope to see him return 373 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,480 in future, but it would be I guess. He is such a huge 374 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,319 part of the live show. You can't imagine him not hitting the keg on 375 00:24:11,319 --> 00:24:15,240 one side of the stage. It will be fascinating to see who they have 376 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,759 I guess in his place, whether that percussionist slot is filled or whatever kind 377 00:24:18,759 --> 00:24:26,640 of when it comes to again the download experience and everything, but Craig Jones, 378 00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:29,720 I mean the very sudden nature you would imagine that he would have been 379 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,079 on this tour until I don't know again, but like if anyone has footage 380 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,480 or whatever of the last Night show, again, it feels like we're very 381 00:24:36,519 --> 00:24:37,400 early days in terms of about to be able to make a judgment on this. 382 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,119 We wait to see. They'll be footage come out of the shows. 383 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,920 Got to see if they've got behind them. Because the fact that it happened 384 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:48,519 so like again hours minutes, even close to a tour beginning, is the 385 00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:52,599 most strange thing about this. But then also the fact that they deleted the 386 00:24:52,640 --> 00:25:00,519 statement showed a new member, but after deleting the statement, it this is 387 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,079 stranger than when you know, just Chris was out of the band, or 388 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,480 Jerry was out the band, or whatever, because at least that felt like 389 00:25:04,519 --> 00:25:10,599 a like a not on the flying decision, right, Yeah, that felt 390 00:25:10,599 --> 00:25:14,200 like you know, this has been just discussed and whatever. Yeah, they've 391 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,519 pired ways. This is now just kind of like like I say, minutes 392 00:25:18,599 --> 00:25:22,359 of the information you're given, which I don't know what the fuck we're doing 393 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,359 right now. Yeah, Like again, like I feel like maybe tomorrow will 394 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,880 know more, Like who knows that there is obviously other bits of this puzzle 395 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,160 coming out as and as and when it develops, like there might as well 396 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,319 recording this right now, we might come off and find out there's even more 397 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,720 shocking surprise news. But the Patrick Clay Jones is just the weirdest part of 398 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:47,119 it because it just like it was just so blunt in the statement. There 399 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:52,119 was no elaboration yet at all. So I almost don't want to comment too 400 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:56,599 heavily because we have solo information in terms of if he is at the band, 401 00:25:56,599 --> 00:25:59,160 which again I don't I don't entirely trust. I don't know if he 402 00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:00,880 is at the moment because the statement was deleted, but if he is out 403 00:26:00,839 --> 00:26:06,000 of the band, that is another one of the original nine gone. It 404 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:11,319 is someone who I think, more so perhaps than when Chris Fenn without the 405 00:26:11,319 --> 00:26:17,359 band. This is someone who you detects their presence quite heavily on the recorded 406 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,640 output of visually as well, he's got one of the most sure Yeah, 407 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:22,880 I mean that's that's similar to Chris. I mean more like again, particularly 408 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,599 like the last couple of sliping albums, it feels like we've spoken about the 409 00:26:26,599 --> 00:26:30,759 input of like Craig and Sid the electronic yeah, quite a lot, particularly 410 00:26:30,759 --> 00:26:33,440 again on like the you know, the last record and some of the kind 411 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:38,000 of moodiest things that they were doing there and so on. It's not like 412 00:26:38,279 --> 00:26:44,559 a singer right where there is like the most detectable obvious voice, where if 413 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,960 if that's changed, that's a very very obvious thing that maybe what Craig Jones 414 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:53,160 does, they can find someone of a similar talent to do without too much 415 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:59,000 kind of fanfare. But it's certainly like his contributions to slip knot material should 416 00:26:59,039 --> 00:27:03,240 not be looked, even if he's always been probably the most anonymous member of 417 00:27:03,519 --> 00:27:07,200 slip Knot, And if they weren't to like, if this was just to 418 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,279 be a kind of like, you know, we just stripped that element out 419 00:27:10,319 --> 00:27:12,920 of the sound, you would certainly notice it and I wouldn't expect them to 420 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:18,880 do that for that reason, but um, certainly musically it feels like it's 421 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:23,039 a departure, that it's a it's a space that needs to be filled right 422 00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:30,079 else you're going to Yeah, but God knows what's going on in terms of 423 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:34,640 the reasoning for this, what's happening with it again, news to come it. 424 00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:37,559 It was a very very bizarre thing. And that's also not it with 425 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,119 the slip information and the fact that I suppose they're doing this simultaneously with the 426 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:47,039 Craig Jones kind of announcement just makes it all feel bizarre. But again, 427 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,519 within fucking you know, hours of all that going down, they were had 428 00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:53,759 launched a new teaser website which was kind of teasing has has a video on 429 00:27:53,799 --> 00:27:59,359 it. I have seen things floating around the Internet that suggests there is going 430 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,519 to be an e he dropping dropping tonight at midnight. I have seen the 431 00:28:03,559 --> 00:28:07,920 adda Role EP which contains kind of tracks and you know, deconstructed elements and 432 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,119 stuff from the song Addairaal, which is hilarious because I love adderall right, 433 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,799 Like, I think it's a great song. I thought it was pressing play 434 00:28:15,839 --> 00:28:18,079 on that slate. The album and being greeted with that was one of the 435 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:23,720 most like surprising and engaging kind of moments from a large band like that that 436 00:28:23,759 --> 00:28:26,079 we've had in the last couple of years. And I think it's a really 437 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:33,799 great song, but it's every all the backclash that had happened around that last 438 00:28:33,799 --> 00:28:37,720 setting album. Adderall was the poster child song for it, right, Like 439 00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:40,480 it was the most different song on the album, and it was literally the 440 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:45,039 first thing you heard when you press play, and people fucking threw their toys 441 00:28:45,039 --> 00:28:48,559 at the Prome about Adderall, And I think it's so funny, particularly when 442 00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:55,200 again we've been discussing the strange stability of their setlists and the fact that they 443 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,319 haven't actually been playing very much of that album at all, despite the fact 444 00:28:57,319 --> 00:29:00,920 they were really talking the talking interviews of like we love this album, we 445 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,880 don't care what anyone else thins or whatever, but they weren't representing it necessarily 446 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:08,279 to then suddenly do this switch around again and release a EP based around the 447 00:29:08,279 --> 00:29:12,240 most hated so the album. If that is indeed what this turns out to 448 00:29:12,279 --> 00:29:18,079 be come tomorrow. Yeah, Like I just again like I'm down for that. 449 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,000 I think not take do what he is creatively fulfilling for you. But 450 00:29:22,039 --> 00:29:26,079 it is just like I say, is turbulent in a way that you don't 451 00:29:26,119 --> 00:29:30,079 often like see for a big band so publicly in a where like again they 452 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,960 like that, you know, the album gets a bit of a kick in, 453 00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:34,640 they back up, but then it's not in the lives. But now 454 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:40,920 they're they're pushing the most sort of left field track on there. I'm again 455 00:29:41,599 --> 00:29:44,079 I fly different things to say about this because I'm like, I don't know 456 00:29:44,119 --> 00:29:47,960 what's actually coming from it. We'll see tomorrow. I guess we'll more on 457 00:29:48,039 --> 00:29:49,240 this next week. Yeah, I mean, I guess for me again, 458 00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:52,880 I want to see some footage of the shows that are happening this week to 459 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,000 see what's going on with you know, who is in Clowns place for this, 460 00:29:56,079 --> 00:29:59,160 but also what's happening with Craig. I want to see if there's any 461 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,759 fucking development so on why this statement was taken down, all of this kind 462 00:30:02,759 --> 00:30:06,240 of stuff. It's so up in the air at the moment. I guess 463 00:30:06,359 --> 00:30:10,279 just in the kind of the long term, if Craig is gone, that 464 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:11,599 is something that needs to be addressed. And I guess want to throw to 465 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,960 you one last time point we move on about what do you think about some 466 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,920 of the backclash that we've seen too. I saw you commenting on it earlier 467 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:25,799 online about kind of I guess slip Knot and some of the turmoil that they've 468 00:30:25,799 --> 00:30:30,240 had. I'm just like, I know the Last Time was divisive, but 469 00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:33,839 I don't one of them, seeing the remarkable of Slimnot, should just call 470 00:30:33,839 --> 00:30:34,880 it a day because of like they've lost so many members now, I mean 471 00:30:36,359 --> 00:30:38,680 two of those members have died, Like you can't really like you know, 472 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,160 I know, Joe's obviously out of the band before that, but this is 473 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,119 still you know that that happens. I don't see why, Like to me, 474 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,680 I was I kind of jokingly made the market. Wasn't the Corey Taylor 475 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:55,079 solo record that has just done that much damage to their reputation because like that 476 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,359 was bad. But I still bring that Last Time album is the most interesting 477 00:30:59,759 --> 00:31:03,880 move they've made in a good whild because it was just different. But yeah, 478 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,640 like I understand, you know when this is about you know, the 479 00:31:06,759 --> 00:31:08,839 nine that was like the thing for so long. Yeah, when that is 480 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:14,559 down to the five, Like I can understand why people might be be like, 481 00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:18,839 well, like I feel a bit touchy about it, but I don't 482 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,400 see why I haven't earned, you know, at least some degree of trust. 483 00:31:22,519 --> 00:31:23,480 And again, like you look at the set that I'm not going to 484 00:31:23,519 --> 00:31:26,200 go into the spots sets, but the sellers they've pulled out of this first 485 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,799 show back, I should say stability. The one they did play yesterday was 486 00:31:30,839 --> 00:31:34,640 fucking awesome. The sellers they pulled out is fucking amazing right now. So 487 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,759 like it's like when we're talking about you know, SIL, who could often 488 00:31:38,079 --> 00:31:41,119 play a bit safe for their set lists. They're doing that and that's really 489 00:31:41,119 --> 00:31:45,920 cool. So I'm willing to give SIL, you know, I think they 490 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,400 have earned the trust to be like to weather out again turbulent periods where they 491 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,119 can then come back and still don't really impressive. I don't. I've not 492 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,279 got my knives out for them in the slides, just like I've seen a 493 00:31:56,319 --> 00:32:00,359 lot of people do just because members are leaving. You know, that happens 494 00:32:00,359 --> 00:32:04,640 with a lot of bands, and some bands, you know, carry on 495 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,559 strong, and some bands it does make a big creative like difference. I 496 00:32:07,559 --> 00:32:12,039 guess we'll see what the next sort of thing comes from, whether this this 497 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,920 like lineup change has a big impact. But yeah, I'm I'm a bit 498 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,400 baffled by the amount of like venom and backlash that's slipping at the moment. 499 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,920 Yeah, we'll pick up on this a little bit, like we've got a 500 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:27,000 question. But some other bands departures I guess that have happened at the moment. 501 00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:30,640 Rob Caggiano is out of Volbeat. He's been there for ten years and 502 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,240 I you know, he tends to drift. He's sure be back with with 503 00:32:32,279 --> 00:32:36,200 someone soon, but you know, notable there. They are a big band. 504 00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:40,000 M in Flames bassist has left and this is mental. Liam Wilson, 505 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,920 formerly the Diligent Escape Plan, is filling in for them on Base Live on 506 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:51,799 this summer run, which I like Inflames in jets and energy into the imagine 507 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,960 that again he can sleepwalk this right, like Yeah. And also something that 508 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:01,400 I've literally just seen that's come through like since we'd recording, is that Um, 509 00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:07,279 Derek Grant has left the Alkaline Trio UM, the founding drummer. I 510 00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:10,559 believe um that. Yeah, that is news to Yeah again, I'm looking 511 00:33:10,599 --> 00:33:14,680 at this now. It's happened while recording. UM. He's talking about the 512 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,559 demands of being in a touring band and just wanted to take a state back, 513 00:33:17,599 --> 00:33:21,720 a step back for his mental health and everything presumed to be the family 514 00:33:21,759 --> 00:33:24,759 again, very very kind of on the Flying News there. But yeah, 515 00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:28,319 that is notable. Um I suppose, Well, you know, we'll see 516 00:33:28,319 --> 00:33:31,720 what happens with the Alkaline Trio, who currently down to an Alkaline duo going 517 00:33:31,759 --> 00:33:37,119 forward. Let's talk about some music. Teenage Wrist have announced their new album. 518 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,640 This is I think the most exciting one this week. Teenage Wrists album 519 00:33:39,759 --> 00:33:44,279 is going to be out on I believe August the fourth, and they've released 520 00:33:44,319 --> 00:33:45,720 a song from it. They've been reducing a few singles, right this is 521 00:33:45,839 --> 00:33:50,119 I think the third. I hadn't been listening to any of the others because 522 00:33:50,119 --> 00:33:52,400 there was no album announcement or anything, but I did listen to this one. 523 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,279 Kind of impressions to date of what Teenage rest Teens Trist have been putting 524 00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:59,160 out there, Yeah, no, they've I don't know if I've loved any 525 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,279 of these singles as much. I love that last album right now because that 526 00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:07,240 that last album was so good, But you know, it's still more quality 527 00:34:07,319 --> 00:34:09,119 music from Teenage Rist. I think this the latest single, it's probably the 528 00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:13,199 most impressive I really this new Songs still love I really like. I think 529 00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:17,239 it's got a great use of texture, Like the guitars sound really strong and 530 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:22,079 powerful vocals as well, which is something that a lot of these bands don't 531 00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:25,159 really have. So this is a good song and it's a nice conscious with 532 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,519 I'm not super familiar with Soft Cult, who are the best thing on it, 533 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,199 but like it's a nice conscious between him having the more powerful and then 534 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,760 her vocals being a lot more sort of wistful and dreamy. It's a nice 535 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,159 kind of mesh between the two. But yeah, like really luscious, dreamy, 536 00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:44,639 like typical thing you'd expect from teenage rist. I'm it's definitely kind of 537 00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:46,360 putting on, Like, Yeah, the second half of this year is shaping 538 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:51,400 up nicely for my sort of albums right now. Yeah, that is exciting. 539 00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:57,079 Ifaca have announced their first US tour. It's quite really called the Your 540 00:34:57,199 --> 00:35:01,079 Fear of Us Tour and the poster has a large orange cowboy hat photoshopped onto 541 00:35:01,119 --> 00:35:05,079 a jibiller in the dress. Um, if you are one of our American 542 00:35:05,119 --> 00:35:07,719 listeners and you've been waiting to see if the curs since the release of They 543 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,320 Fear Us, or if you've never listened to them, you should go and 544 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,079 see them anyway, because they're boody, brilliant. Um. I look forward 545 00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:16,599 to the video of them playing the Saint Vitus in NYC. Looks fucking great. 546 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:21,000 And also over here this is awesome, municipal waste. It's a good 547 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,960 time. Yeah, having out a UK and Island headlining tour and they're bringing 548 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:29,079 along Gel and Undeath, which is for a mixed bill of like, you 549 00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:34,000 know, three different kind of bands there. But what a fucking night out, 550 00:35:34,039 --> 00:35:37,519 what a party? Yeah, like legitly like you've got a real like 551 00:35:37,559 --> 00:35:40,239 hardcore punk, scrappy sort of like minute long songs. You've got undefinitely one 552 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:45,079 of the best kind of new Yeah, definitely. Undeath are probably the most 553 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:49,599 fun live band of the current crop of death memos, like they just have 554 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,320 by seem not the ones who've got the fun, they have the best vibe. 555 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,320 So it'll be perfect for that, Yeah, I imagine like Joe, 556 00:35:55,320 --> 00:36:00,280 I'm not I'm not talking about they've had to put out out yeah to do 557 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,679 it, there's my chance to him so yeah, and then and the Immunist 558 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,679 ways too. Again, I'm just doing this for the ways, like I 559 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,119 mentioned this when I saw them with great. You just need to see them 560 00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:09,400 every now and then just to up on that, like I'll take a headline 561 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:14,760 headline forever. Yeah no, but I'm not even I'm like them headline with 562 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,119 this source of port bill. That's really just a good time and I'm so 563 00:36:17,159 --> 00:36:21,440 down to go and just head bang stop that ever have a part. Yeah, 564 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,679 and it's not a surprise either, but good or municipal ways for bringing 565 00:36:23,679 --> 00:36:28,960 out some really like, you know, exciting contemporary bands, bands who are 566 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,119 obviously you know, not too long ago that would have been them in those 567 00:36:31,159 --> 00:36:34,360 kind of positions, but like they're you know, they know what to do. 568 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,039 That sounds like a fucking great time. And then the last piece of 569 00:36:37,079 --> 00:36:40,000 news I want to talk about is the news that the Iron Chic passed away, 570 00:36:40,039 --> 00:36:44,679 which is obviously wrestling news rather than yes, rocking metal news. But 571 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:49,000 people may remember possibly my favorite news story of the time that I've been doing 572 00:36:49,079 --> 00:36:54,159 TNM was the time when Shaggy Tu dopea insane clown posse drop kicked and dropped 573 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:59,519 man old stage and drop kicked someone in limp Biscuit while they were playing and 574 00:36:59,639 --> 00:37:06,360 ignite a feud a feud which you may remember was solved and the piece who 575 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,320 was made buying none other than The Iron Cheek with a tweet which read the 576 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,239 Shaggy too Dope, you are a good man, but your drop kick is 577 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,559 fucking drizzling shits even worse than the Brian Blair. Also, DJ Lethal is 578 00:37:16,559 --> 00:37:20,800 my brother. I don't like to see my brothers fight Bubba so al someone 579 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,320 who know nothing about wrestling. The Iron Cheek is someone who's presents likeways an 580 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:29,880 incredible joy all I'll just says, fuck whole Cogan, the whole Cogan, 581 00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:34,679 the whole Hogan. I even made him get a bowler is a video I 582 00:37:34,639 --> 00:37:37,159 see'd remember. So yeah, you know, an incredible character who sometimes crossed 583 00:37:37,159 --> 00:37:40,760 over to the worlds of rock and metal. Drizzling shits forever rest in Piece 584 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:45,719 of the Iron Cheek questions, Alex Atherton kicks us off, saying, inspired 585 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,719 by the things to the oath Breaker Special and discovering Eros and Teros, what 586 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,519 are the great lost predecessor albums? I'm talking about the albums before the classic 587 00:37:53,519 --> 00:37:58,960 which maybe almost as good but now get overlooked. Power Metal by Pantera. 588 00:37:59,079 --> 00:38:01,960 No I'm joking, or I do enjoy that album, Um, I mean 589 00:38:02,119 --> 00:38:05,880 from Maelstrom into this as well. Like I said, it's almost like Maelstrom 590 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,880 too is almost too Terris and Terrorists where it's on Terrorist is to Rail where 591 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,800 it's like they had a habit of releasing albums that immediately made their last really 592 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,440 great album be kind of unfairly forgotten. Thinking about other specials we've done, 593 00:38:16,599 --> 00:38:21,719 like Portrait of the Goddess by bleeding through, the greatest love song six six 594 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,320 six, maybe the Ceth type of kills which engage a little bit. I 595 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:28,880 think Stack prevailed by jimmyt World before, like the they began their real run 596 00:38:29,159 --> 00:38:31,639 was one that we really went hard on in that regard. Similar thing, 597 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:36,320 but chaos fhere in a way like kind of like I don't have got Like 598 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,440 again, I'm not assooming a misuing, but I feel like that's kind of 599 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:43,960 like the last of the early misue rounds before they're they're kind of watching real 600 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,039 classics, but more like contradictions collapse, which is I like it. It's 601 00:38:47,079 --> 00:38:50,960 not anywhere near as good as like you know, the six and Sugar records 602 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,599 are follow it, but like I mean, the big one that immediately spungs 603 00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:55,840 mind for me, is Dave Breaker by I was going to question them that 604 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,400 that. I was going to be like, would you put day Breaker into 605 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,639 this camp? I would absolutely put Dave Breaker into this category because like that 606 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,559 was, you know, after after the trouble that was the here and Now, 607 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,280 Dave Breaker was the kind of like the album that was. It was 608 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,519 because says, oh, you know, they're doing what they're good at again, 609 00:39:09,519 --> 00:39:12,480 they're standing the ship a little bit. But I think you know, 610 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,920 the album's got these colors don't run on it, yeah, like Alfameka, 611 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,960 but I think there's like a load of really cool stuff on that record that 612 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,199 that gets overlooked. And then um Loss Trevor Lost Together was kind of like 613 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:30,159 the start of the classic Architects run that is that we know and love today. 614 00:39:30,199 --> 00:39:31,960 But yeah, I think Dave Breaker is definitely one and the only one 615 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:36,199 that kind of spung to mind, which again maybe because it's sandwiched between two 616 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,559 absolutely like Tante Classics but Rented World by the Menzingers, I think is a 617 00:39:39,679 --> 00:39:43,599 kind of like a bit like, yeah, people don't actually people get how 618 00:39:43,639 --> 00:39:45,159 good that album is. Nob No, I agree, I think I was 619 00:39:45,159 --> 00:39:47,039 thinking about it. There are a bunch of albums that you can always have 620 00:39:47,079 --> 00:39:51,079 as like sandwich albums, right, like yeah, not quite this question, 621 00:39:51,159 --> 00:39:55,599 but things that are sandwich between two like huge records like that one is that 622 00:39:55,639 --> 00:39:58,960 maybe don't get quite get that love. I think that would be a good 623 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,039 example of that, Shure. The two big ones that came to mind for 624 00:40:02,119 --> 00:40:07,280 me for this is one is still Life by Opeth, which is my favorite 625 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:08,719 Opath album. I think I've said all that one here many times. But 626 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:13,280 that comes right before Blackwater Park, which itself then leads onto you know, 627 00:40:13,519 --> 00:40:17,079 Deliverancenation, Damnation and Ghost or Reveries everything that's like the real classic Opath run 628 00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:21,199 that everyone talks about. But Still Life comes in right before Blackwater Park, 629 00:40:21,199 --> 00:40:25,480 and for me is the one. And really the Link by Gagira, which 630 00:40:25,519 --> 00:40:30,320 is reallyased actually huge before from Master Series, I mean, Tera and Cognitia 631 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,440 is a really great record as well, But the Link I fucking love and 632 00:40:34,679 --> 00:40:39,159 it's so blisteringly heavy but so awesome and intricate in and you know, only 633 00:40:39,199 --> 00:40:45,000 something Gagira could have made. I like it probably, I mean, certainly 634 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,360 more than Fortitude, perhaps on a similar level, if not slightly more than 635 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,519 than than Magma. I think bactically the record I love. I would love 636 00:40:51,559 --> 00:40:52,480 to then put more stuff from it back in the setlist, you know, 637 00:40:52,519 --> 00:40:55,360 bring Indians back, do the full song of Remember It's not just a little 638 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,960 breakdown at the end, all that kind of stuff. That for me is 639 00:40:59,039 --> 00:41:04,960 definitely one of my number one shouts for this Um The Harvest Floor by Countycapitation, 640 00:41:05,159 --> 00:41:07,639 which comes before Monolith in Humanity, which then starts kind of you know 641 00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:12,559 the real the classic caategory is right kind of check in. Yeah, Like 642 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,679 the Harvest Floor is an amazing record and it's it's more than you know, 643 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:21,039 Humanure kind of you know slop order, which I love that as well. 644 00:41:21,079 --> 00:41:23,119 About the Harvest Way, I think is a really brilliant underrated record. Um 645 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:28,519 Manifest Decimation definitely set some of the stage for Nightmare Logic and kind of probably 646 00:41:28,519 --> 00:41:31,480 deserves a little bit more kind of yeah love in hindsight, Um, I 647 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:36,239 mean I said I am king, like yeah, but I think I mean 648 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,840 I kind of drew that thing with aeros and terras, Yeah, like I 649 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:43,159 kind of compared it to Ario Centers on that special. I think show Bears 650 00:41:43,199 --> 00:41:46,960 by Muse is like a fucking unbelievable, like slightly progressive alternative rock album that 651 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:52,000 comes before you know, Originsymetry and the rest. Yeah. I think one 652 00:41:52,039 --> 00:41:54,159 of the big ones which the world kind of collectively came around on is Soulside 653 00:41:54,199 --> 00:41:58,840 Journey by Dark Throne, which is kind of the the lost death metal album 654 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,320 before they turned into at album started what people know them for. But then 655 00:42:01,559 --> 00:42:05,400 you know, years later people were like, hang on, that one definit 656 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,079 album released was brilliant. Um. Elliot's not here to say in Casino out, 657 00:42:08,639 --> 00:42:12,880 so I'll say that for him, I should say that I love it. 658 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,000 Yeah, I mean, I know Relationship Command is one of my favorite 659 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,760 albums ever, but yeah, I think we did the refused album Club as 660 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,119 well, which was a similar deals. Like, not that anyone's arguing that's 661 00:42:20,159 --> 00:42:22,840 as good as Shape of Punk to come, but you know, interesting conversation 662 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,519 to be had. Um. I mean there's loads I could throw out. 663 00:42:24,519 --> 00:42:27,519 I mean, like, my favorite Halloween album has probably always been Walls of 664 00:42:27,599 --> 00:42:30,400 Jericho, which comes slightly before they kind of really defined you know, power 665 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:35,280 metal as we know it. Pale Folklore by Agalock before the Mantle White Tune 666 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,920 by Or of Plagues before Mammal, maybe all of the Priestlaughter of the Soul 667 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:43,920 at the Gates, stuff like Tellable Spirit, Disease loads there and onto. 668 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,760 The last question here is Chris Beale's Lacy says, with the sun out, 669 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,920 what are the best summer albums? And this I would just say that is 670 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,559 a question for our summer album Roulettes, that I'm sure we'll be bringing back, 671 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:58,239 you know, sooner rather than lay so. Speaking of that very place, 672 00:42:58,519 --> 00:43:00,360 we've still got our album Club Pack there where we spoke about nine inch 673 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:05,320 Nails to Broken Epa, Baroness, Yellow and Green, the Hotelier Satiricon we've 674 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,639 still got as mentioned as well the four hour Oath Breaker special where we gave 675 00:43:08,679 --> 00:43:14,000 a definitive critical history of one of the greatest heavy bands of our lifetimes. 676 00:43:14,039 --> 00:43:15,840 Over the summer, we will be bringing back the Roulettes. We will be 677 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,840 bringing aback the eight Z of Awful. We have just opened up a poll 678 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,639 over there as well for patrons with a handful of band special considerations that we 679 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:27,159 have and people have been voting giving us an idea of what band specials we 680 00:43:27,199 --> 00:43:30,480 are going to be undertaking in the second half of twenty twenty three or so, 681 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:31,679 so you can go and take a look at that next up there for 682 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:37,199 this weekend is recording our Tynander's horror episode on the works of one Harry Aster, 683 00:43:37,519 --> 00:43:42,119 which I don't know. I don't know if many of you have actually 684 00:43:42,159 --> 00:43:45,480 seen bo Is Afraid, because the wider you know, talk around it has 685 00:43:45,559 --> 00:43:52,360 been understandably, I think, very lessened compared to the wildfire successes of Hereditary 686 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,440 and Midsummer. But part of that is that you will never see a fucking 687 00:43:55,480 --> 00:44:00,920 movie like it again, and we are going to go all in on why 688 00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:06,000 and at the same time give the full deep dive treatment to Hereditary and mid 689 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,679 some of those earlier two movies that we have given, like this is going 690 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:12,920 to be our longest like if you thought the Robert Eggerson was on I don't 691 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,400 know, by putting in a similar ballpark, you know, we did this 692 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,719 treatment for The Witch and everything. We've done it for Get Out and Open 693 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:22,159 Us, and we're got to try and gauge why these movies have become like 694 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:27,639 the poster children of modern horror. So that is a patron dot com slash 695 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,559 that's no matter releases for this Friday. It's a very small week this week, 696 00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:35,000 which is a good thing because every big band released their album last week 697 00:44:35,039 --> 00:44:39,239 and I've still not got round to fully listening to all them fell the I 698 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:44,559 thinging from Levers. Still want to check that the Events album is fucking the 699 00:44:44,599 --> 00:44:49,000 Events of trying and wrap my head around that crackers and't it to be discussed 700 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,239 in our upcoming reviews. But today the big one that we probably will be 701 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,880 reviewing in the upcoming up as well is god Flashes Purge, their first record 702 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,320 in I think six years. I'm excitedly be god Flash. The other one 703 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,880 that I would really recommend and shout out is as a death metal band called 704 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:05,320 Torture Rack, which is a fucking brilliant name, but they're a good band, 705 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,000 very heavy, very evil. Their record was called primeval Onslought Elsewhere. 706 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:15,400 Scar Symmetry have come back with the Singularity Phase two Xenotaph Phase one, I 707 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:20,960 believe came out in twenty fourteen. So the most protracted pairing of albums that 708 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,960 you probably don't need it has ever been. Never really been interested in Scar 709 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,760 Symmetry. I saw them once at Bloodstock. They were all right, yeah, 710 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,760 just very okay European metal, but you know they are back in hardcore. 711 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:35,199 There's Gelled, which is like gel but with a D on the end, 712 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,280 it's to get even more fucking confused about all the hardcore one word names 713 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,800 around. But this is on Relapse Records, and I checked a bit out 714 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:45,760 and it sounds really like hyper aggressive and a gnarlie. The record is called 715 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:52,599 Currency Slash Castration for some kind of slightly experimentally you know, heavier sludgy stuff. 716 00:45:52,639 --> 00:45:55,519 It's about called Johnny the Boy, and I think it's just called You 717 00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,559 More Psychedelic, you know, Stonery Fair. There's Black Rainbows, Super Skull, 718 00:46:00,599 --> 00:46:04,079 and a couple of EPs, Super Bloom Life's a Blur who are one 719 00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:07,239 of the better kind of you know, sort of grungy alternative rock bands around. 720 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,079 He likes the album from was it last or two years? Two years 721 00:46:09,079 --> 00:46:13,559 ago? Yeah, I feel this EP has like quite a lot of traps 722 00:46:13,559 --> 00:46:15,159 on it. They're just you know, short traps. So there might be 723 00:46:15,199 --> 00:46:19,239 a decent helping or superman check out. And also an EP from Glass Casket, 724 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,400 who are like a death core band, not one of the newer deathcore 725 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,840 bands, but a returning deathcore band from many a year ago, with an 726 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:30,440 EP that they have got out as well, So check those out. That's 727 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:35,119 it from us this time next week. There may not be a hyper blasts. 728 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,360 What we are hopefully going to have is a download review episode. We 729 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,559 will have to talk to Elliott when he gets back about when he can do 730 00:46:40,599 --> 00:46:45,000 it, but that is what we are aiming to have come your way next, 731 00:46:45,159 --> 00:46:47,559 which is exciting because we haven't done a download episode every single year of 732 00:46:47,679 --> 00:46:51,039 late, but it's lovely to get to do that for you know, the 733 00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:54,960 biggest event ever, the twentieth anniversary show here all about Metallica twice. You 734 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:59,519 know that feels right if they are ever able to get out of the car 735 00:46:59,519 --> 00:47:01,559 parkque and make it back to us so we've been that's no mat all. 736 00:47:01,679 --> 00:47:02,360 We'll see you see