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Welcome everybody to the three Whiskey Happy Hour. This is a very very
very special edition tonight. I don't know why, but just because I'm going
to band back together. Yeah, that too, That's part of I was
gonna say all the reasons, dread, I wanted it to be a very
special edition. But it's so great to see John, except that John of
course is again out partying in a hotel without sufficient bandwidth, so we can't
see his face because his video is too choppy. So he is back from
Egypt. It's a good thing in Egypt. Who said I was in Egypt?
I Biden? Biden said you were in Egypt. Yeah, you were
down in Mexico. But you know, in Mexico it's also a difference,
right, yeah, exactly. I'll tell you one way probably thinks were in
the middle of the War of eighteen forty eight. That's with Midrands as commanding
general. But you know how you can tell John's back from somewhere, John
is McDonald's stock rally this week, because you know it's last week while you
were gone. So down one hundred, No, just just a lot.
I didn't say a hundred, it was just down a bunch. So actually
they said that the reason that the stock fell was because the uh oh,
the corporate people admitted that their prices had gone way way up. I guess
because they admitted it, then their stock fell. I don't understand how that
worked. Oh no, no, I thought you guys would have liked this
story. So I read a story while it was in Mexico. Actually from
that said Starbucks and McDonald's said that they were the subject of boycott's and misunderstandings
about their position on the war in Gaza. Right, yeah, yes,
because is this right? The McDonald's in Israel are giving free food to all
the soldiers fighting. Made me want to go there, and I did,
and that's when I was disappointed. But still yeah, but now they're walking
it back, is what you're telling me. John. No, they were
saying that was the cause for some of the loss because other people are not
going to McDonald's anymore because they object to what McDonald's Israel is doing. That's
what I meant, Well, this is for them. Those were the whole
intersectionality business is breaking down because the left hates McDonald's, right. It's you
know, they had the Super Size Me movie and you know, beef and
all the rest of that. On the other hand, so if they weren't
cutting them or attacking them for some tie to the Middle East, they'd be
attacking them for something else. Which, by the way, who had the
worst well, Biden had the worst week. Maybe we'll come to that.
Think of what it's like these days to be a climate protester. You show
up somewhere to block a road and the moss protesters are already there and they've
beaten you to the punch. So's tough times for certain segments of the left
right now. Actually, I turned against McDonald's a long time ago after Ray
Crook's widow. Oh yeah, what ah. I can't use the word I
want to use, and I can't think of another one that would replace it.
But how despicable is that to get all that money from your husband's genius
and then completely misuse it in ways that he absolutely would be She became a
big lefty donor. Uh in the eighties she started giving seven figure contributions the
Democratic National Committee and all kinds of other left A good conservative at least a
Nixon conservative, right, which is you know those are pretty good these days.
Yeah, anyway, enough of enough of McDonald's. I had pizza tonight
for dinner because it is National Pizza Day. I heard that. Yeah.
This is also I believe the fiftieth anniversary of the Beatles on Ed Sullivan,
which I never remember from my youth. But yeah, yeah, And we
didn't even discuss the fact that the other day it was a fiftieth anniversary of
Blazing Saddles, Right, the best movie ever made? Are you guys talking
about things? Nobody who listens to this show knows? Oh god, everybody
there's There is nobody who listens to the show who hasn't seen and loved Blazing
Saddles. Upte you John, Yeah, I saw it once once. Yeah,
I didn't think it was that funny. I thought it was funny,
but I didn't understand why it was such a why it's, you know,
such a landmark in humor films. So, first of all, John Blazing
Saddles as cannon, which means you' to study it and read it over and
over again, like play those republic and it gets better. And caddy shack,
you know a caddy shack guy find funnier. I find caddy shack funnier.
Okay, I think we need to do sort of top ten cannon movies
for a future episode. Not right now, but no, no, right
now. But I don't even know how you talk to somebody if you can't
speak the language of Blazing Saddles exactly. That's right anyway, great game of
life. Okay, I've got well most of the things in Blazing Saddles.
You can't stay on campus anymore. Maybe that's the one I still say them.
Gabby Johnson speaks authentic frontier gibberish. It sounds like a faculty meeting anyway,
does And I have often actually said when I get asked some question by
by faculty that you know, I don't have the answer to because I'm only
you know, mid level administration, And I'll say, mongo, just pawna
and just like you said Steve. So I thought you were going to say,
quick, we've got to do something to save our phony loney jobs.
That's one of the greatest Oh now I would say, quick, you've got
to do something and save your phony baloney jobs. But okay, so ah,
last week we never even got to most of the important issues of the
day, like, you know, the start of World War three with the
you know, the much too little, much too late bombing of drone attacks.
Whatever. We're not even going to have time to go there today either.
But I just wanted the listeners to know that all of us are actually
cognizant of what's going on in the Middle East, even if we don't spend
a lot of time talking about it. Because this week had so much news.
It started off with and I'm not going to go in order, we're
going to discuss se scenes. But it started off with a whole bunch of
really important things that we all knew we were going to discuss, like the
fact that the turtle looks like everything I said he was, and worse,
I'll come back to that because of his by part is an immigration deal falling
apart? And then he had to bet I'm getting ahead of myself. There's
all his news, and it just kept rolling at us, and we were
prepared to listen to our esteemed constitutional law professor, who was in fact the
Premier Amika's brief writer for the Colorado case. Everybody on the court cited his
arguments. They didn't necessarily sign him by name, but there were John's arguments,
and we want to hear what John has to say about that. But
it was a lot of I have to give credit to Yeah, I have
to give credit to my co author, Robert Della Hunty, who is a
Claremont Institute fellow, by the way, because we wrote up these arguments back
in May, a long time ago, because we saw the case coming and
we raised I think several of the arguments eventually got a lot of the attention
at the court. I'm not saying we invented them. I mean a lot
of other people saw them and what would have seen or would have seen them
had we never written. But the first one, theeenth fourteenth Amendments text,
which says certain people who've had federal or state office swore an oath to uphold
the Constitution and then engagement insurrection cannot then hold federal or state office. Again,
that amendment lists all the offices that it applies to, but doesn't mention
the presidency. So I think that got a lot of attention at the Court,
even from liberal justice to Tanjie Brown Jackson. Then the second thing which
a number of justices focused on was that the amendment itself doesn't define insurrection,
doesn't provide a process or forum for how you decide whether someone's committed insurrection.
And so we made this argument back almost a year ago, Congress should define
insurrection, Congress should implement the amendment, which we often rely on Congress to
do for lots of parts of the Constitution. I think the fourteenth Amendment,
which has a congressional authorization clause. Sorry yes, exactly, Section five of
the fourteenth Amendment says Congress shaw of the power to carry in to affect the
terms of the Amendment. And so that I think actually got the attention of
both liberal and conservative justices, because otherwise, what happens you have fifty states,
fifty states defining insurrection for themselves, and fifty states deciding who gets to
be on the ballot not on the ballot. And keep in mind, the
Fourteenth Amendment, even if it applies to the president. The more important thing
is it applies to basically every office in the federal and state government in the
country. So if Congress doesn't implement it, then you're going to have states
knocking off Sunday candidates, what else, candidates, you know, candidates for
dog catcher. Every office is going to be subject to this, and you
can imagine this or chaost that would create. So both liberal and conservative justices
said, shouldn't this be implemented by Congress so that we have a single definition
of what's an insurrectionist, we have a single process laid out for how someone
gets to either you know, gets to defend themselves from this kind of charge
by the government. And I think that's I think though both of those grounds
are the ones that the Court's going to go off on. I think,
having listened to oral argument, I don't know what you guys think, but
it seems to me that Colorado is going to lose, and lose overwhelmingly.
The only question is whether it's going to be unanimous. Yeah, and I
think it's so to my or who might go funny, I could see that,
you know, because she's the only one I think who didn't ask any
questions that seemed critical of Colorado. All other ah Justice most of their questions
were sharply aimed at the Colorado. And this was remarkable just as a matter
of Supreme Court advocacy. The lawyer for Colorado, this was his first time
ever arguing case at the Supreme Court. This is not the kind of case
you put the rookie out to play the starting position in a major league baseball
game. And I think he frankly did a terrible job. You had three
justices say to him, stop evading my questions, stop changing my hypotheticals.
And one and actually he Court for Justice Gorsiction, and Gorsis got so frustrated
he said, I see you're not going to answer any of my questions.
Well that's the way you want it. We're just going to move on now.
That's really really harsh, Like that is basically telling you to stop and
take a pause and change your complete approach to the argument. And this guy
didn't. And so I think, you know, a lot of time,
the advocate doesn't matter. You know, the merits and the briefs are going
to take their course. But if there were a chance an advocate could make
a difference, for his side. This guy lost that chance. So why
didn't they hire Michael bod and Michael Paulson to present their case? Why didn't
Colorado? Well they're both law professors, so they probably would have done even
worse. But you know, you they'll give the good question their dumb argument
that everybody got excited about though, you know, because they're conservatives and all
that. But this is an interesting question, is why didn't the Colorado side
of things hire any one of the number of outstanding liberal Supreme Court right advocates
and like any of the number of people who've been solicitor general under the Obama
administration or even the Clinton administration. They're still around there. They argued lots
of several cases a year, these guys, and they're excellent. So did
I have a theory? I wonder what you think about it. I saw
a couple of articles. One began talking about this ninety one year old woman
who vote, who cried when in nineteen sixty four when Goldwater lost the election,
which is supposed to make us think, you know, she's some hardcore
conservative who was one of the leading plaintiffs in the Colorado case, you know,
to get Trump off the ballot, and there were a bunch of articles
similar to that, trying to trying really hard to make the case that this
was these were conservative Republicans who were arguing this rather than you know, crazy
lefties. The same thing happened, by the way, in Arizona with Katie
Hobbs and Carrie Lake, where all over the state of Arizona there were these
billboards and there were these horrific ads with these fat, ugly people where lifelong
Republicans and we don't want Carrie Lake, we want Kadie Hobbs, and we're
stupid, but we're stupid Republicans, so you should listen to it. That's
not what they said, but that's what I heard anyway. I'm just wondering
if that's the new if that is sort of the central never Trump strategy,
which is to try to say that it's all these Republicans. I mean,
you said yourself the guy was a clerk for Garset. I don't know,
well, you would have thought, John that Seth, this is the perfect
case for Seth Waxman, right, who I think is probably actually I think
he's so annoys Chief Justice Roberts. It's probably a bad idea, but On
the surface, you'd say, why wouldn't you hire Seth Waxman to do this
or someone like him? Right, Yeah, there's like Verilli, who was
this priser general under Obama won the Obamacare case. And there's a whole bunch
of others. Right, there's no So that's curious. I think part of
it is Lucretia's right. Maybe the Democrats wanted to sort of have Republicans be
the frontmen and women for this so that it's seems like it's not Parson.
Maybe the Progressives knew this was a loser and they were just throwing this up
as see how it worked a low probability win. Well, I don't know.
I mean, I think there's a story arc for this week that's connected
to a larger story arc, which is one more thing about the oral argument.
Though before I do my story arcs about why we're seeing another instance of
trunk dearrangements and Rome backfiring on the never trumpers. The one thing I did
not see coming, which came from both the Kagan and Brown Jackson, is
they realized that gush if states can come up with new qualifications to be on
the ballot. Wait a Minute's that starts to point toward a restoration of states.
Right, So they both said the Fourteenth Amendment was meant to take power
away from states. And the next sentence, unstated, was and concentrated in
Washington, D C. And so what you're opening a can of worms here
if you actually have judicial interpretations that say, oh, well, the work
might allow more latitude for states to do X and y. I didn't see
that, you do. I get what you're saying. I'm not disagreeing with
what you're saying. But I wonder, because of our oft repeated argument that
the left doesn't really care about standards, the left doesn't really care about principles,
they really don't care about institutions. They're willing to manipulate or do away
with any one of the above if it means they'll get what they want.
And I don't think Katangi falls outside of that. Really, maybe not,
but you might be right, Well, I could see them being deeply worried.
Well, and let's remember the last big Fourteenth Amendment decision was the Harbor
case last June, which they were routed on. And they might be parently
worried. I don't know, but I did not see an argument coming out.
Let's just put it that way. But I'm saying that the lesson of
the whole week to me is, don't get your lesson before we've had all
the stories, Steve Saving, I'm not stories the rest of the news stories.
Oh well, okay, makes more sense, Okay, I will hold
it. Then, I'm not telling you to be quiet. I'm telling you
that you'll have a better case if you wait. I want to ask John.
Then the next thing is the immunity case, which I totally kind of
spaced about again on the grand scale of news this past week. It was
kind of a minor issue by the end of the week. I mean,
all things confuted. It was a you know, it was a circuit court
case. It was one we expected. It was decided exactly the way we
expected. I'm told that both of you have some insights into that that I'm
totally missing, But go ahead and give me those insights. Well. First,
it's first, it's such a striking change in the fortunes of Trump and
Biden that we started the week. We started Monday talking about Trump losing this
immunity case. Then on Thursday, we started Thursday morning talking about the Supreme
Court deciding whether Trump should be disqualified by Thursday afternoon, and through till today,
all we're talking about is whether Biden should be removed from office. Look
at that huge change in political fortunes. I mean, Trump has had the
best week in politics that I can think of in a long time for himself.
But on the immunity question, the two things. So one is I
think that this argument is going to fail for Trump at the court, but
it doesn't mean he's not going to be able to raise the arguments he wants
to in the proper way. So first, the Court has never had to
decide whether a president has immunity from criminal prosecution because no president has been charged
before. But I think it's fair to say a lot of the precedents and
a lot of the lower court opinions imply, as a DC Circuit found earlier
this week, that a president doesn't have that kind of immunity. Presidents do
have absolute immunity for from civil cases for damage actions. And the reason why
would there be a difference, Well, the reason why is because the Court
says, we don't want presidents when they make decisions worrying about getting sued by
the plethora of private people out there who could just make up reasons to assume
them. The thing with federal prosecution, right is that it's under the control
of a president, and so I think what the courts believe is those presidents
will take into account the interests of the executive branch so that people are not
former presidents are not harassed because the current president is going to someday be a
past president or former president, and so in the civil context, we don't
have any way to give force to the interests of the executive branch making decisions
free of the threat of litigation. But with criminal prosecution, since that's only
in the hands of the president, the current president himself or herself, then
I think with the the courts assumes that that president will take account of those
interests when they decide whether to prosecute or not. I think I got to
push back on that, or the listeners will never forgive me John go go
ahead, go ahead. I'm just gonna say that might to the extent that
the court should be considering secondary considerations consequences of these things, like what you
say that you know, people could just be constantly bringing civil suits against the
president, but the executive will not do that because they don't want to have
turned around as fair play whatever put it a little bit too simplistically. We've
seen that's no longer true. So if the Supreme Court is using that particular
or uses that particular caveat as an excuse to say, no, presidents don't
have immunity from criminal prosecutions the way they do from civil prosecutions, that may
or civil suits. Excuse me, that may make zero sense in the current
political context. Is the courts of basic completely ignore that political context, which
of course is going to lead us to the next item of discussion, but
I don't want to get there yet. I'm just saying. I mean the
fact that how many criminal counselor against Trump right now ninety one, well,
are all brought by enemies, political enemies of the president. All of that,
Well, what should distinguish though, between the prosecutions by state elected das,
which against what you could have you might have an immunity. That's a
totally that's a federalism issue. And then charge is brought by the US Justice
Department, which are under the control of the current president. So just a
backup first, I think there's a good textual argument that they don't have immunity
because there is one kind of immunity from prosecution in the constitutional text, and
it's only for members of Congress when they are engaged in speech and debate,
which implies that no one else gets criminal immunity right because they don't give one
to the president or remind you to judges, although the judges of course created
one for themselves when they had the chance. But that's you know, textually,
you could say, well that that suggests that there is no immunity allowed.
Then the federal's papers do talk about presidents being removed from office by impeachment
and then being subject to prosecution. So I putting aside this functional argument,
I think just the normal youth, the normal sources we used to interpret the
constitution suggests presidents don't have this kind of munity. Well, then make my
second point just one. Let's say the second point is, but I think
actually Trump has valid arguments, but they're not immunity. Immunity means I can
never be prosecuted for anything. That's different than saying I'm being prosecuted under a
statute that's being applied unconstitutionally to me. So take for example, the famous
statute which led to President Andrew Johnson's impeachment. It was called the Tenure in
Office sect. It made it a crime for the president to fire a cabinet
officer. That's unconstitutional, right, That statute is just unconstitutional. So Trump
could be prosecuted as Johnson was appeached, and you could say that prosecution is
an unconstitutional prosecution. That's not immunity. I think that's a winning argument.
So Trump could say, look, I'm being prosecuted for exercising my free speech
rights when I gave a speech at the Ellipse. That's not precluded by this
immunity. By losing on immunity, he could say, these criminal charges you're
using against me, like fraud against the United States, are disenfranchising all voters,
or interfering with congressional procedures, None of those actually apply. You're making
up readings of those statutes which they can't bear, and they don't apply to
what happened on January sixth. Those are still valid arguments. That's different than
saying I have immunity, which just means I could have done anything, and
I could have violated any law, but I just can't be prosecuted. Have
his chance to make I think actually valid constitutional arguments, but I think immunity
just went too far. So I think that Steve, that John was influenced
by that dumb judge, Judge who said, oh, if you if you
sent the whoever it was, the Navy seals, whoever it was out to
murder your political opponents. I mean, that was just a reducdio ad absertin
argument if you ask me, well, yeah, well well there's the problem,
I think, or one of them. So first of all, John,
once again, looking for just the text alone without thinking beyond the text,
leads you into a constricted dead Endustreet, So just to work backwards.
The speech and debate clause for members of Congress, I believe, correct me
if I'm way wrong, only applies when Congress is in session or when they're
doing their official duties like traveling to and from Congress to work there. That's
the way it works in state legislators. I know. Now the president is
the president all the time, right, so the sim or you know,
collateral immunity would be attached to the presidency because it's the office of the president.
And my point isn't I was just going over this with students in class
this week, as I was explaining the whole concept of executive prerogative from Locke,
the whole idea of immunity descends from the idea of executive prerogative. Now,
the abstract problem is, yeah, you would say, if you know,
if the president walked down the street one day and robbed the bank and
shot up some people, you couldn't really somebody, Yeah right right, that
famous line you would You would have to say at that point, yeah,
that'd be hard to say that could qualify the presidential community. And the Court
in the opinion said something I think kind of troubling. They said, well,
yeah, there's kind of a problem here, and I forget the exact
words, it was close to this. We think the thought that that constricting
immunity or scanning it back will lead to future presidents being harassed as fanciful.
In other words, what they're saying is this only applies to Trump. By
the way, my new rule, John, which I'm borrowing for yours,
is is all the presidential parrogaterives apply to every president not named Nixon. And
now you expand that to every president not named Nixon or Trump. So that's
where we are now and now you need to go back to what is he
being charged with. He's not being charged with shooting someone on Fifth Avenue.
The charges from Smith are interfering with the congressional proceeding, disenfranchising voters. I
think that's a reach, But I think the first one rests on the idea
that it presumptively invalidates Trump's defense that he was defending the Constitution by contesting the
results of a corrupt election. The comeback and their factual claim, as I
understand it, and the pleadings is that Trump knew that wasn't true. Trump
was totally lost the election. In other words, that they are saying that
Trump's state of mind. They're doing a men's rey argument about him, which
I think is extremely weak when it comes to bringing a case against any president.
And so that's why I think what's going to happen here. Trump is
going to appeal to the Supreme Court on my day. That's the deadline,
isn't it, And then we'll that's going to start a clock. I think
this is going to go a while. Right, Well, it's actually quite
complicated. He could normally and this does go to your point about Trump being
treated differently. Normally you would have actually a former government officer would normally have
forty five days to appeal to the entire d C Circuit. So this is
just a decision by three of the judges of the entire DC Court of Appeals,
which I believe has twelve judges. And so you have the right if
you lose a case before panel to petition the whole court to come together,
which it does maybe once a year in some cases sometimes it goes years without
doing. And that's the court I clerked on before I clicked at the Supreme
Court, so I know how the procedures were. But this panel said,
nope, you don't get those forty five days. You got to appeal like
in one day basically, or we're going back down sending it back to the
lower court. So what Trump's going to have to do is go to the
Supreme Court, I think, and say order the DC Circuit to stop sending
this trial back so it can start, so I have time to even appeal
use my appeal rights in that court. Because it's so strange that that court
said, Nope, you don't have the normal time to appeal. We're going
to let the trial start, right away. Then if he loses that in
forty five days, then I think he then he could say and then I
want to appeal to the Supreme Court. So I figure he's got maybe if
the Supreme Court agrees, he probably have another two months to go before it
gets to the US Supreme Court. Of course, as interested I think is
to you know, not have this go to trial at all before the election.
If the court were to grant certain take the case, maybe they would
treat it like the Colorado case and try to decide it quickly, or they
could stay the whole trial and take the regular time. Right it's say,
you know, we're just going to do the No, you know we're going
to grant certain heard in the fall, So correct me if I'm wrong.
The status quo right now is that the whole thing has stayed until something happens.
Now does this is what's really unusual about what this panel did is that
they issued what's called the mandate back to the trial judge, you know,
Judge Jack, Judge chuck In, which would allow her next week to restart
the trial proceedings. Oh that's not normal. That's usually you're allowed to appeal
to the whole court and then go to the DC the US Supreme Court,
and I'm going to have to he's still allowed to do that, but then
she has permission to go ahead to restart the trial. Yeah, got it.
So that's that's that's a little bit of dirty pool. I think that
yes, people wouldn't notice or understand, but it's actually kind of important if
your goal is to stop Trump from right going all the way Supreme Court and
holding the trial in faces. So there's so many for the boring discussion,
and I wanted to ask you about Jack Smith's move to try anyway, I
don't I want to take a moment for our incredible sponsors, which for John
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mine. They're always in Spanish, so we'll see in a moment, Okay.
So gosh, there's so much to talk about. I think that we
probably want to move on to the big news of the week and see if
we can pick up the little things afterwards. The big news of the week,
of course, as John mentioned earlier, was the special counsel that is
investigating Garland was more or less forced into appointing a special counsel to investigate Biden's
misuse and uh it responsibility about the use of his keeping of classified documents in
his garage, you know, with his treasured corvette and whatnot, and a
garage frequented by the esteemed Hunter Biden, and you know, the whole thing
was just vile. But the Special Council her h u R, not h
e R. It's not her pronoun thank you. Charles Lipson came out and
said, yes, as a matter of fact, Biden quite egregiously mishandled classified
documents documents he probably should not have had in his possession because he was no
longer vice president and he was not the classification authority. I don't know that
her got into that, but he should, and sharing those documents with his
ghostwriter who did not have a security clearance, right, Okay, important,
Never mind what kind of his mishandling of those documents actually might have led two
with all of the shady characters in and out with Hunter. We won't go
there. But he didn't go there either. But those are real, very
real kinds of concerns. Anyway, he said Biden was was very much at
fault. Biden committed all sorts of crimes in the course of not handling classified
documents as he should have. And some of this was, of course the
result of carelessness, but there would be no point in bringing charges, no
point whatsoever in bringing charges, even though we there's this whole section he talks
about, Oh gosh, you know, we're not bringing charges here. But
we've got this other situation, the first time it's been done against a presidential
candidate. But I'm not going to get into that. This one's a wholly
different case. It wasn't clear all how it was different at all. But
and then he said, I can't bring charges because if if the president,
the current president, went before a jury, they would look at him as
a well meaning elderly man whose memory was very, very bad. Is that
was that the right phrase, Steve, which, first of all, what
a liar he's There has never been a single movement in Joe Biden's life where
he's been well intentioned. Okay, senile, ugly mean as we saw last
night Thursday night, but never well intentioned if you ask me. But anyway
back to I heard John today on Fox News as I was in my car.
It's my favorite thing that happened in the car by the way, John,
when you come on on Fox News. But John made a brilliant point,
actually several, one of which was what else was her going to do?
Either he was going to have to recommend prosecution or he's going to have
to have a rationale. So talk about that from go ahead, Steve,
if you had to say, go first, and then John can correct me.
Active a question for John about one one specific aspect of the report.
First of all, it does sound, and some people have made this point,
it does sound a little bit like James Comey's conclusion about Hillary and her
private server. So no reasonable prosecutor will bring this case because she won't be
convicted, is what he's essentially said. And her said, no, there's
no way that we could get a successful conviction against Biden on this. So,
first of all, it does sound like there that maybe Trump doesn't get
immunity from the DC circuit, but there does seem to be Democratic Party community
matters that are similar. Wait a minute, let me keep going here,
because it's the same point. Sorry, Well all right, Well, I
was gonna say two questions John. One, is it sure seems to me
like this completely blows up the case against Trump, But I know there are
distinctions that Biden cooperated and Trump was stubborn about it, but I don't I
don't think that works very well case. And then second our Eliot Shapiro made
a claim on Twitter. I don't know if this is true, and I
wonder if you know, he said that Garland did not have to release this
report. He could have I suppose kept under wraps all those very damaging parts
about Biden's sanility and what I suppose issued a summary that's said, we released
a conclusion that it doesn't arise to a prosecutable crime. And I don't know
if that would have stuck or not. But is that true that the Attorney
General could have withheld the public release of the complete report? Do you know?
So you may remember this actually came up during the Robert I mean the
Robert Muller Special Council investigation of Donald Trump, because remember he had a report,
and then Bill Barr took the report, issued his own summary, and
then only a little bit later, I think maybe a week later, released
a redacted version of the report. So I think it is corrected. Under
the regulations, the Attorney General is actually the one ultimately responsible for transmitting the
report. To Congress and the public. But what are you going to do
if the Special Council sends report to Congress anyway? So it's I think that's
why. But I think practically attorney generals have always known that if the Special
Counsel wants to report release, they're going to release it because there's nothing you
can do to them. They're just there, right, The Special Council is
just there for that one case. Wouldn't you have released it on a Friday
night, which is when you typically try to bury bad suits? And I
was actually joking around with the producers at Fox because I was actually on shows
to talk about the Colorado oral arguments and then never talked about them because we
spent the whole time talking about this report. And so one of the producers
said to me, I bet that the Biden people wanted the report released today
because they thought that the Colorado case would steal some of the attention from But
they were just totally They didn't realize that the Special Council thing just overshadowed everything
because of what it said about Biden's mental incapacity. But they were hoping,
like you know, some of the oxygen in the room would be taken away
by the Colorado case. They really really misjudged that well that whoever was the
staffer also who then thought, after watching all the damage mounting on Biden,
thought it was a good idea to send him out for that press conference where
he started yelling and screaming at the press started forgetting things about and misstating who
the various presidents were that guy should or when that man or woman should be
fired and never be allowed to work in politics. You can't. I want
to come back to that, John. I first want to go back to
what Steve said about Hillary, because that was exactly my thought was. But
remember that Hillary actually got away in the Bengazi hearings with and several other Democrats
or may as well have been done. Democrats have done the same thing Fauci
with the answering questions over and over again with I don't recall, I don't
recall, which I suppose is the weasliest of getting out of you know,
a method of answer getting out of questions. But that's what I was thinking
of that with the I don't recall, and you know, if I'm Komy,
well she's you know whatever. But the point is, how can how
can a refusal to be forthcoming be such a successful strategy for Democrats other than
the fact that our Justice Department just simply allows it. And my second question
that was really more of a commentary. Sorry, that's amazing, that's actually
that's an important question I just mentioned. So this is I think there's a
huge difference here actually between Trump and Biden. So you know, Trump's of
course facing all these right legal problems to in New York City, Georgia,
Washington. So somehow Trump has taken a strategy which has provoked huge legal losses
in the courtroom, Like he's getting clawbreed in these defamation suits by Jeene Carroll.
He's going to get clawbered in this attorney general lawsuit against him for inflating
his assets and mortgage applications and so on. But somehow he turned those into
political gold, right, Like he used those political these legal setbacks where he
took where he refused to cooperate or comply with the court, and he lost.
He's going to lose hundreds of millions of dollars. But it took all
the air out of the primaries and all the attention away from everyone else and
focused it on him. Biden's the exact opposite. I'm sure he's following his
lawyer's advice. They probably told him, if you don't remember anything for sure,
then say you don't remember, right. That's that's like a stand.
Don't never say anything in these interviews that you're not absolutely sure about. That's
that's standard litigation practice. But it's killing It's going to kill him in politics.
Yeah, I mean that's where I don't. I mean, I understand
your point in the creature about no legal consequences for Hillary and Benghazi, but
I do think in Hillary's case, that report and the way you call me
that was very damaging her and arguably cost her the election. Right, So
there's cosmic justice at leads in her case, and I think maybe we're seeing
it in Biden's case too. I'm hoping you're right, not damaging enough because
she's still out there instead of hiding somewhere was in shame. But okay,
so let's talk about whether or not first there was an alternative if her wanted
to avoid prosecuting Biden and still leave open the possibility that Trump could be prosecuted
on the same charges. Of course, they're not the same charges Biden can
be guilty. Trump obviously cannot be guilty of the charges of mishandling his own
classified documents. I don't know how many times I have to say that,
but anyway, let's pretend that they're equal. Was there any other possibility,
John, in your opinion, could he have made a different argument. Is
there another argument that could have been made by her about why why he's not
going to move for charges to be brought against Biden other than he's senile and
a jury wouldn't convict him. Actually her addresses in the report. It's interesting.
I don't think a lot of people paid attention to it, but in
his report he basically says, yes, it's going to be an obvious question
to people that were recommending not to prosecute here, whereas the other special counsel,
who was not responsible for me to me, as you know, indicted
President Trump. And he does say the conduct might appear similar to most people.
And he says, and this is a reason he could have said,
I'm not going to prosecute Biden and Trump should be prosecuted, as he says,
there actually seems to be a long practice of presidents not really being very
let's say careful and they're handling. And actually, Steve, this is interesting.
They go back. They actually say Reagan actually kept diaries which had a
lot of classified information in them, and you know, so they say,
we can go to Reagan, if not further back, and just show Look,
presidents keep diaries at notes and they take them home and no one's ever
thought about prosecuting for them. So he could have said, we could give
these presidents a free pass on that, just like we've given all the presidents
in the past. So what hers says is but the main difference is the
level of cooperation. That Trump is not really being prosecuted anymore for the classified
documents and they're handling. He's being prosecuted for obstructing, just says, for
trying to hide the documents from the FBI and for telling his staff to lie
to the FBI. Uh. And so that's actually that is a big difference,
right. The Special Counsel Jack Smith's prosecution really, I think is going
to center on claims of obstruction of justice, refusing to comply with warrants,
hiding things around the FBI, lying to the FBI, rather than the actual
rather than the fact that he cas know that it's not a crime that how
can you obstruct justice when there's no crime? Well, there's no crime here,
you know that, right, John, But I'm not actually, I'm
not sure make crime. I don't actually agree with that. But whether there
is a crime or not, it's still a crime to lie to FBI officer
or to lie to Congress, regardless of what it is you're lying about.
I guess I like, it just seems to me that even if you stipulate
all those distinctions, it's going to be very hard to find a jury in
Sound Florida that's going to convict Trump. I don't know. But at the
end of right now, look as you guys know, I thought it's a
mistake to bring the case because the only thing that should matter is January sixth.
If you want to indict Trump for insurrection and prove it, that's a
good use of federal prosecutor resources, don't I've never thought that prosecuting Trump for
this, you know, classified documents makes sense. That's a good use of
resources. Yeah. Well, I don't know if you want to do this,
Lucretia, But I mean, at the end of the week, Trump
looks stronger. I can't wait for the next round of polls, which may
not show Trump's surging, but it's going to show Biden falling sharply, I
think. But Trump came out after the Colorado opinion and gave a little talk
and then answered questions, and he was masterful. I thought, one of
his better performances ever. And then Biden here a few hours later, has
what I'm calling I'm calling that press conference in the evening is I'm not a
crook moment, you know, like we had with Nixon, right, that
was a big thing different. I can live with a criminal. I can't
live with I mean the idea we have a you know, a brain dead
if I can't even that's always when my old rule a free I've had this
rule for forty years, which is better to have a crooking office than a
liberal because a crook cannot steal as much as a liberal can give away.
And never heard of it, You've never had sell that one. Job.
That's a good one. I like that. I would to death. Job.
I would have thought you'd say, if you're out there holding press conferences
and all your people are out there saying the president is not seen now,
than you're losing. Oh yeah, the Vice President is out there saying you're
not seeing now it's gratuitous to say that. I actually find the whole thing
fascinating the way that it came down. But I do want to go back
momentarily to Trump's excuse me, Biden's press conference last night. I mean,
he started off the week saying that the reason that the bipartisan immigration bill fell
apart was Trump's fault, and all of the immigration problems. We're seeing that
that Biden finally admitted to all the legal immigrants is also Trump's fault. That
was an interesting attempt by Biden at the beginning of the week, But by
the end of the week, we're talking about the fact that the guy's brain
dead and that we wouldn't you know, the joke has always been, we
wouldn't hand over the TV remote control to a guy as senile as Biden,
but we let him be president. We can't let him stand before a jury,
but we let him be president. So that has led people, Republicans,
especially to start talking about the twenty fifth Amendment. I did go back,
John and find your Wall Street Journal article, and I read it that
you wrote about what the actual circumstances were if if we if somebody decided to
push for removing Biden temporarily for his work permanently for his disability, which is
of course that he has no brain. And want I want you to when
we come back to outline those procedures, which are a little more complicated,
then most people understand them to be at least that's what Steve says. That's
probably a strong man argument. But I mean section four. I mean,
John, do you want to do section four? Or me? I find
them I want I do want to take a break here, Steve, because
you had to So John, do you want we want us to go into
section John, you want to talk about section four? Or me? I
find it really remarkable when you read it. Well, I mean, most
people think the twenty fifth Amendment, they've heard of it. It's a majority
of the cabinet says the president is unable to discharge the duties, the vice
president becomes the acting president, and the suggestion is, well, the president
can come back if it has been I think invoked a couple of times for
mere hours, like when a president's been under anesthesia for surgery and stuff.
But you know it's happened to you three times in the last forty years.
But if you read to the whole thing, what it says is the president
can contest this. The president can transmit a letters saying no, no,
I'm fine. And then if the cabinet insists and reiterates from stating this right,
they're find that the president's unable to determine, unable to discharge the duties
of the office. Then what happens is they send that to the Congress,
to the President pro tem of the Senate, and Congress has three weeks to
assemble and vote on the matter, and by a two thirds vote, Congress
can say no, no, the cabinet's right, the president is unable to
discharge the duties of the office, and the Vice president remains as acting president.
So you can imagine stubborn as a mule Biden saying of course, I'm
fine. He would clearly contest this, and then things would get interesting.
You think there's a two thirds vote in both houses of Congress to side with
the cabinet, I mean maybe, I think a lot of Democrats in charge.
Well, that's just it. So you want to put her in charge?
If you're a Republican, do you want to do the Democrats a favor,
although I actually think that if something like this happens, it will wreak
havoc on the Democratic Party and their chances of winning the election. I think
they're doomed either way. They're doomed with Biden, they're doomed if they replace
him. But I think that I read that whole section and I thought this
is not as clear cut as people seem to think it is. From all
the headlines you read about the twenty fifth Amendment, What have I, mister
not gotten complete there? John? No, this is I think you were
at the actual amendment if you read the Texas biased in favor of the president.
Yeah, right, So to even get a president, I think of
it as the suspending, you know, putting the president in the penalty box.
Right, So it's like putting someone like in hockey, you put someone
in the penalty box. They're only in there for a certain amount of time,
right, and then they can rushing out, right, they skate out
so fast and try to make a difference. And isn't that the same thing
here? So one thing that's hard is that both the vice president and a
majority of the cabinet have degree that the president is unable to. And you
remember, like there are things like this comes up in twenty four and in
the Harrison Ford movie I can't remember what it's called. That takes place on
Air Force one. No Air Force one everywhere? Right, Oh, it's
the vice president. Majority of the cabinet going to say the president's incapable performing
the duties of the office. But notice it takes both. It's not one
or the other, both the vice president. And so I'm I could easily
see Harris already at her computer typing up the finding. But do you think
like a majority of the cabinet would agree? You'd have to like rustle up
people you haven't heard of before, Like who's the Secretary of Veterans Affairs in
this administration? I got no idea who is a secretary? I know what
transportation is. Yeah, that's true, but like you know, there are
some pretty obscure federal agencies. You know, who's the Secretary of HUD in
this administration? By the way, and then abrupted there for second John,
it's actually even less clear than that, because I've said cabinet, that's what
most people think, But in fact, the first sentence of Section four is
more ambiguous whenever the Vice President and the majority of either the principal officers of
the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide.
So this is a little bit like section three of the fourteen Amendment. Congress
has not specified a body, but they could. They could say we appoint
four doctors. Right, they've never dined. Right. And by the way,
you executive departments. Often presidents make the head of the EPA a cabinet
rank person. This is finally going to restore the unitary executive because all these
losers who've been on these various commissions are suddenly going to say, yes,
yes, actually, we've been executive departments all along. Let us vote,
Let us vote. Any thing about the amendment is noticed that, as Steve
said, after a certain time, right, even if the cabinet and the
vice president continued to declare that the president an't discharge office, Congress has to
vote by two thirds to agree with them to keep the president out of office.
Otherwise the president goes right back in. That's how heavily the amendment actually
runs in favor of by favor of Biden. Actually, right, all Biden
has to do is find thirty four senators who want to keep them in office.
Well, here, to me is the grand irony of this whole scene,
because if you go back five six years ago when Trump is first went
into office, and the left and the medium, and I repeat myself,
they said, oh, you know what, clearly the twenty fifth Amendment should
be invoked to remove Trump from office because he's obviously unfit. And there was
all that talk and some law professors, right, and so here we are
at the end of all this, and now the twenty fifth Amendment is being
talked about for Biden. I mean, the irony is so delicious here.
And the point is is that every time the left launches a torpedo to use
navy analogies at Trump, it turns around and sinks them. You know,
the me Too movement was started to take down Trump. Instead it took down
Al Franken right, right. And you know there's another example of everything the
left does ends up boomeranging and blowing up in their face, which is what
makes life. Yeah, it's because we still do have a constitutional republic and
they want to twist and manipulate and do away with the constitutional protections that are
there, the institutions that are there, the remedies that are there. They
want to do away with it all to get the power, to keep power,
to get what they want. And I think I don't think it's a
trend or a boomerang effect. I think it's just to some extent, our
constitution still works to some extent, and especially in these kinds of things.
I mean, you can't bring up the twenty fifth Amendment in the case of
Trump and then not look at someone like Biden and say, wow, you
know, I mean, it's just you. You can have all the Trump
derangement syndrome in the world you want, but a guy who can't remember the
date that his own son died, who can't remember the Afghan War, I
mean, all the different examples that her gave in his report, there is
and then what we see is Biden being such an irascible, such an ugly
vindictive, mean spirited kind of jerk convincing I'm assuming, I mean Jill had
to let him go out there. I don't know who's who's claim, probably
never would have let it happen. I don't know. I can't remember the
chief of staff's name, but there are as and obviously not you know who
knows if Obama had anything to say about it, probably, But what an
I mean the I told Stephen John I was going to resurrect my dumbest person
of the week, my stupidest person of the week. I would resurrect it
if I knew who that person was who said, yeah, it's a good
idea for uh, the you know, the brain dead Biden to go out
there and try to defend himself that he's not senile, insisted on himself.
He might have. He might have. So tell me what you do is
you put him out there, and you put a bunch of fake journalists and
you let the fake journalists. That's what I would have done. That's redundant,
and the fake journalists is are done for. That's a classic without real
cameras. I guess, Ristia Lucretia, the Biden White House is going to
be calling you and hiring you on in a few minutes because that is brilliant.
That is brilliant. Can I just make one or two comments about that?
So one is right? You've got all the Biden people, including Biden
himself, attacking the special counsel whom they appointed, right, whom they picked
for being partisan or for being inappropriate and so on. So here's my solution.
If they, if they really think that the Special Council is making stuff
up, is misrepresenting this, then have Joe Biden ordered the release of a
transcript of the interview that was conducted. Have the Justice Partner release any audio
or videotapings of the interview. Let mark let people, and let people read
the transcript and they can decide whether they think the Special Counsel was actually misrepresenting
whether President Trump camera President Biden can't remember things because you're an evil man,
John that people said it too. Yeah, yeah, I think the Special
Council probably downplayed how bad it was because if you read carefully what he said
you could get you would get the mis impression that the interview started with the
Special Counsel saying, Okay, tell me the dates you are vice president.
Okay, tell me the days. It's not that's not what it looks like.
It looks like Biden's just his mind. He's saying, Okay, something
happened in twenty seventeen. They ask him about something to say it happened in
twenty seventeen, and Biden spontaneously says, was I Vice President then or not
right, it's if he's the one sticking the knife in himself, then I
bet the interview is much much worse than what we've seen in the Special Council
for Yeah, Christ, the worse things. Can I add one little minor
detail to that John the whole idea when he was so offended and everybody wanted
to jump on his being offended about bringing u uh it is none of their
damn business about when my son died. I can't believe they asked me that.
I mean again, what a hypocrite. He brings up the death of
his son bo at the most inappropriate times. Every time you turn around,
he lies about it. He lies how it happened. He undermines the the
a ceremony that's for a soldiers actually killed in battle because of his stupid decisions
to talk about how his son Bow was killed in Iraq. And you know,
the idea that he's going to be offended because somebody asked him about it
as an attempt to say, yeah, this is important event in your life.
When did it happen or how did it happen? You know, I
think I think there's actually a worse aspect of the story or worse detail than
that. I mean, that's been well known now that he lies about that,
and and he just doubled down on it. But one of the things
he and his people have said, I think he said to this and his
people have been saying it the last forty eight hours, is well, you
know, those interviews were done with the Special Council right after October seven,
and you know, by I was distracted by a you know, a global
crisis. Well, the point is presidents are supposed to be able to do
more than one thing at a time, and you know, you know the
contrast here was. I forget it might have been Peter Wallace and John who
you know well of course, who told me this story, because Watson was
White House counsel when Iran contra broke, when Reagan was in office, and
you know, the Washington's going nuts. I forget what day it was,
but when one of the really the lid blue office with the North and the
diversions, whatever it was, and he said he went in and saw Reagan
at lunch, that he had Furgod Marshall in. So I don't know what
the event was, but he said he couldn't believe how serene and in command.
Reagan seemed to be and so untroubled and unruffled by what everyone else was
running around like chickens with their heads cut off. Right, And of course,
you know he had some very rough months ahead of him. But the
point was he never said, gosh, I was distracted by this, that
and the other thing. He was able to do lots of things at once,
as we saw. The analogy is so far from being apt here,
Steve, because you're talking about Reagan and you're talking about Biden. Yeah,
I know, right. I'm trying to remember Reagan has some real choice things
to say about Biden's diary. I don't remember him on the top of my
head. Uncle looking, I'm going to tell you what Paul Mgala said about
after the whole thing that came out from the Special Counsel's report in Biden's response
to it, was I slept like a baby last night after I heard it,
and I wet the bed every two hours. Oh no, you,
I mean Carmel, David Axel, Rod Magala. There being kind of public
with their alarm about all this, and okay, well, I mean,
never mind the twenty fifth Amendment. What do they do? I told Steve,
no more damn historical analogies. He didn't listen to me. I said,
you got one choose Wisely, he ignored me. You've already had five.
But I do want him for a moment. So a lot can happen
between now and summer. We've got what this is February, what four months
before four or five months before the conventions? What happens if we get to
Chicago? To Chicago the last time we had a truly brokeren convention where Hubert
Humphrey was chosen as a Democratic nominee after not even entering a single primary in
the Democratic election primary season in nineteen sixty eight, and it led to riots,
et cetera, et cetera. So what's going to happen if Biden stays
in the race all the way through and we get to Chicago, or if
he drops out? Steve, Well, look, I mean, by the
way, it wasn't really broken in sixty eight, and then you still had
party bosses controlling delegations, so they were able to deliver in the nomination.
And you know if Kennedy, I mean everyone said, oh, Robbie Kennedy
would have wanted he hadn't died. I think that's very doubtful because Johnson hated
Kennedy and still had lots of power with the party and would have moved heaven
and earth to keep them from getting Okay, But look, I mean there
are supposedly procedures. I haven't looked into them. I've read articles. I
forget the details. But the parties can change their rules and the continues the
rules of the drop of a hat. Right now. Usually it's a long
but they can change it quickly if they need to. And the real drama
is that how they're going to go about doing this. I mean, they're
going to release the delegates and I don't know. I have no idea what
will happen. I think we're in completely uncharted territory. We've never worked john
because I think the only element of government he never worked in was the Federal
Election Commission. Well they don't only I only worked for constitutional branches of the
federal government. I love it. I should listeners. Yeah, Have I
been losing them? Have I been losing listeners already? I think you're a
squish on the border. That's all on the border. In the January sixth,
in the Justice Department and and Okay, gone, what do you think
happened with the with the Democratic of primary? John? I'm just you know,
so I was getting a little I was getting kind of ticked off about
all this last night when I saw what was in the report, because I
don't know about you guys, but my Democratic friends are always saying to me
things like, how can you allow someone like Donald Trump to be president?
Yeah? Right? And all I was thinking now was, well, now
you guys have proof, how can you allow someone like this to be you
my Democratic friends allow this person to remain as president when now we have this
is not just people speculating for what they see on videos or hearing. This
is a This is a report of the Justice Department, Like this is a
fine. I mean, can't me how important this is is that the special
counsel said he would otherwise have prosecuted this guy but for the fact that a
jury would sympathize with him because he seems like everybody's senile grandfather, right,
so or father? So, I mean, it's not just like political speculation
anymore. So I would think if you really had a democratic party with responsible
officials, with responsible people in it, they would figure out a way to
write to pose Biden just like they didn't have Trump. I mean, I'm
sorry, just the way they didn't have Truman run for an additional term,
just the way Johnson didn't run for additional term. They've got to use the
inside party politics of their own party to try to persuade Biden to step down.
Look, you could say, you could say to him, Look,
you did what you promised. You saved the country from Trump being re elected.
You became the bridge to the next generation of democ politicians. You brought
us through COVID. So you did what you said you were. You're going
to be an important figure in American history. You're going to ruin all that
if you try to stay on for a second term. Right, So why
not send them off the stage with applause and then swap them for somebody else?
Hit Democratic Party leaders? Do that? Do they? Really? Is
the whole Democratic Party really under the control not of Biden, It's of Biden's
staff. Really. Yeah, I think it's a classic collective action problem.
But by the way, I will mention that this will should cheer Lucretia in
a certain way. There are more and more stories starting to leak out in
this week about what an awful person Joe Biden is and about how she yells
at staff. Jill. Sorry, I had doctor Jill Biden should have I
should have done a proper title about how she You know, Nancy Reagan used
to have a bad reputation for being tough on staff when something went wrong.
Supposedly Jill Biden is a lot worse. And so that's an interesting little tidbit.
We'll let's see at the media now, CNN, there's a CNN segment
I saw, Yeah, there, you go, right. They went on
for like, they took a six to seven minute segment fact checking Biden's press
conference and saying, no, he's wrong about that. That's also wrong.
This isn'tcorrect. And oh and the New York Times Friday morning five stories on
the front page about Biden's memory problems in the fallout from the Special Counsel's report.
And you know, good grief. So if you're a loyal seat CNN
watcher who sometimes reads the New York Post, I mean New York Times,
you know you've got you've got to be going through some kind of mental anguish
at this moment because you've been lied to for so long and had the truth
obscured from your view for so long, this has to be just a mind
blowing I would think. But anyway, we have so much more I would
love to talk about. But we've been going for a very long time.
And I'm going to have to ask John if he heard Kamala's full throated defense
of our esteemed president and if he was persuaded by it off side. I
was going to offer that as the comalism, so I guess i'd have to
wright he said no, because maybe people didn't hear it. Well, she
said that it was you know, mess representation, but it got worse,
and she said he was unprofessional based on her own, you know, deep
experience as a prosecutor, and that it was a direct partisan attack on the
president. And gratuitous. Yeah, oh yeah, that was a big word
for her. Well, you know what, for her being the vice president.
I think she was grateful that this whole thing happened, So she was
gratuitoust towards Robert her that he did this. Yeah, I just have to
wonder what she's thinking. Okay, I'm gonna go to the Babylon b Steve.
So Steve sent me as if I hadn't seen it already. The Babylon
Bee is is a national treasure, as just what I'm going to say right
off the bat, and if you're not subscribing to it, you should.
So this one's new, Steve, you might not have seen it. Forty
chess. Trump four his judge to grant full immunity after he speaks gibberish and
shakes hands with the air. Okay, that's kind of funny, all right,
you guys should laugh. More Man ruled too senile to stand trial,
Still fine to run country. You know that's not even funny. That's a
layup. Yeah, yeah, but Biden calls for the president to step down,
right, okay, a little bit back to an earlier story, Catangi
Brown Jackson pauses oral arguments to ask Clarence Thomas, what is a constitution?
Actually? I think it was Molly, Molly, Molly Hemingway. But a
tweet, who is just I mean, it was just perfect. It was
what's the guy's name from CNN who came back? I shouldn't use those terms
for master baiting on all. Oh, Jeffrey Tubman, the Tuban missile crisis,
as I always call it. Yeah, so Tuban has this long,
despicable rant against Clarence Thomas, and Money comes back and says, he's I
guess he's taken a break from masturbating on camera to blah blah blah. And
it was, it was, it was perfect. But he was the only
one at CNN who seemed to want to, you know, take anybody else's
side in this for a CHANGETANGI Brown. Troy passes that we didn't even get
to the bipartisan by the four scariest words in the English language, Bipartisan Immigration
Reform bill. Yeah. Troy passes border protection law limiting entrance of wooden horses
to five thousand dollars a day. Thers is a day? Right, Yeah,
sorry one day. And then finally, because there's so many senators say,
senators say they're not super worried about running up national debt as most of
them will die of natural causes in the next year or so. And it's
a picture. And then and mcgarth, yeah, you get it. I
did want to say, Steve and I had a back and forth this week
about whether or not if McCarthy was still Speaker of the House, there would
have been a successful impeachment vote against New Yorkis. I think Steve's wrong and
I'm right, but well beside, they may still get him. I mean
they were missing a vote, they had a Democrat they weren't expecting to show
up, and then they were missing Steve's calise, who was has been ill.
They and they can bring it back up again because they did the parliament
re maneuver and they may yet do it, so we'll see. Okay,
Uh, Steve, I want you to end this. So I'm going to
tell listeners, today's my birthday. Oh, happy birthday. Thank you.
I'm six. I was just with you a few days ago. I don't
see. I wish we would have celebrated. That's okay. But but the
reason I mentioned only is because I want bumper music from Steve so wh ice
in my life. So when I turned sixteen, my best friend, believe
it or not, she's she was my best friend. There was a radio
station in my little town that everybody listened to, and of course everybody listened
to when they're getting ready for school in the morning. That's back in the
days when you listen to the radio. And she dedicated Ringo Stars. She's
sixteen, you're sixteen. You're beautiful in your mind? You know the Ringo
Stars song you Know It Right? And Go Star had any songs, but
but she asked the DJ to say, this is for my best friend Linda,
who's sixteen and never been. Well, half the guys in Mason City
know what Linda's never been, which she thought would be hilariously funny and wasn't.
But I've never forgotten it, and I've never forgotten that song. The
only other song I know of that actually refers to someone's age is the other
Beatles song I'm not a Beatles fan at all and I'm sixty four? Will
you still need me? Will you still feed me when I'm sixty four?
Yeah? And you don't want Whiskey Girl from Toby Keith. Whiskey Girl could
be the start because it was really sad about Toby Keith. Yeah, I'm
not a huge country Western fan, but some of Like I heard a song
the other day that was a duet between Kobe, Toby Keith and god him
I forget his name now that he's a big rodeo guy. The songs called
Copenhagen, and it's singing about the virtues of the you know, the chewing
tobacco. Oh not Danish socialism. Okay, no, no, no,
no no. And the funny thing is that, you know the great thing
about chewy tobacco, It cures warts and freckles, It makes childbirth of pleasure.
Just it's a funny song. And then Toby Keith says, us,
sure is better than singing all them old love songs. And then the other
guy says, yeah, Toby, that is a love song. So anyway,
I miss and he died of cancer as well, and I can't believe
I can't remember his name. But you know me, I can never remember
names. So a lot of we lost a lot of people lately. Yeah,
yeah, that's right. All right, John, you want to launch
us out, I'm trying. Oh yeah, So always drink your whiskey,
meat and let's go Brandon and Steve God save the queen. Mano. I'm
going to come up with some new bidenisms after this week rotation. All right,
bye, bye, guys. When I get older, losing my hair
many years from now, will you still be sending me a Valentine Birthday greeting
bottle of wine? If I've been out till quarter to three? Would you
lock the door? Will you still need me? Will you still feed me?
When I'm sixty four? You'll be old, dirty, And if you
say the word, I could stay with you. I could be handy,
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