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Hours. We'll stay tuned on that. In about an hour from now,

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Peter Bronson will be here. Peter
Bronson has written a book about how a

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Union general saved Cincinnati from the invading
Confederate armies that were biv whacked in Boone

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County near the future home of Tony
Bender, and they were ready to attack

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Ohio, and this one general saved
Ohio. And also later on we're going

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to put a call into a real
estate appraiser about how you can contest your

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property valuations for those living in Ohio. Many have gone up forty to one

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hundred percent, and there's a way
of contesting that and maybe lowering your cost

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a little bit. But until then, the new President of the FOP is

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the Honorable Ken Kober And first of
all, Officer, welcome, I think

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for the first time to the Bill
Cunningham Show. And can you can can

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you tell the American people a little
bit, a little bit about your background

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before we get into the issues of
these mobs beating people up in Cincinnati.

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Sure, well, thanks for having
me today. So I've been with the

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police department since two thousand, actually
started as a civilian as a police cadet,

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went to the Academy in two thousand
and two, and I've served in

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various assignments in District five. District
one. I was in our traffic unit,

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spent about eight years in our canine
unit, went to a fugitive apprehension

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squad, and then prior to getting
elected, I was running a beat downtown

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in the Central Business section. So
you kind of know where the bodies are

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buried all over Cincinnati. I've been
around for a while, so I try

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to keep it secret. Well.
I had the honor of being with Keith

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Fangman and Elmer Dunaway and Kathy Harold
and Dan Hills. You're in a long,

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long blue line and hope it continues
for a while. You made some

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comments about what's happening in the Central
Business District, which is disconcerting. Plus

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the banks between my ballpark, the
Great American and pay Corps, eight people

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have been shot. And I don't
think the average Cincinnati and the average Northern

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Kentucky and who wants to visit Cincinnati
knows some of the dangers. And so

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you released last night a second mob
of individuals beating up on another kid and

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almost I would think he's within an
inch of his life. When you're on

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the sidewalk and you're unconscious and two
or three people are kicking you in the

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head, that is not a good
situation. So, first of all,

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in a generic way, what happened
with the first incident, which is out

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in front of the restaurant, and
in the second incident you released with Chief

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Thiji last night. What does that
say to you? It tells you that

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you're walking down the street and you're
just getting attacked by a mob of people

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for no reason. You're minding your
own business, just walking about your way,

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and all of a sudden they come
up from behind and they attack you.

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And you know, the police have
done a fantastic job identifying some of

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these folks. They've arrested two people
so far, only for them to be

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let out with little or no bond. And these are the things that the

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citizens need to know that not only
is it putting police officers in danger,

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it's putting citizens in danger. The
police are doing what they're supposed to do.

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We need these judges to step up
and make sure that they're holding these

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these people accountable. This is a
relatively new phenomenon because going back ten twenty

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thirty years when Judge Grossman was in
juvenile court and we had more conservative judges

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on the bench. If you were
on video, without question, you're the

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one kicking someone in the head when
they're unconscious, and you attack someone mercilessly,

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that's a flonious assault. It might
be an attempted murder, in which

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case you're you're going to be in
adult court. You're going to be sent

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away. What's changed from your perspective
among the judges the last three to five

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years. Well, yeah, it's
interesting because I do understand the one side

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where they I guess they have less
place to put kids, But ultimately,

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these judges have to hold these kids
accountable. And what's happening is right now

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is they're not being held accountable.
And if they know that there's no danger

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of being locked up or being held
accountable, they're just going to out be

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out there running wild. And these
things are going to continue, and it's

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only going to get worse. In
fact, this spring and the summer about

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the worst. And I can recall
the shooting of a peace activist on Fountain

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Square. I think his daughter was
shot just standing around, and these incidents

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are proliferating. Can you describe Brian
Combs had to report a few days ago

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about eight people being shot over recent
months in the Banks, which is perceived

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as one of the best areas in
the Midwest. For those who have not

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been there, to walk down to
Shmell Park and you can go up and

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down from Montgomery In on one side
all the way past Paikhrse Stadium and there's

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things to do. It's beautiful.
The muddy River bank of the Ohio Rivers

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now been replaced. But all of
this is ruined. If you have large

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numbers of individuals attacking in persons for
no apparent reason, and even if there

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is a reason, you don't attack
somebody with weapons, how dangerous and how

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real is the threat? And the
banks to individuals who are looking for robbery

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suspects, well we found what the
Banks is. The later the night goes

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on, the worst things get.
You know, the people that are coming

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down to go to a Cyclones game, of the Reds game or whatever,

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just enjoy a night on the town. It is still relatively safe, but

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after the time of midnight you have
people that are out there that are not

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patronizing businesses. They're parked illegally on
Freedom Wag because there's no parking after eleven

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o'clock at night there, and they're
there just waiting for their next victim.

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And I do know that the police
department is working on taking action to figure

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out how to try to curb this
violence, because ultimately, if they make

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it uncomfortable for these people who want
to victimize people to be down there,

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they're going to leave and they're going
to go somewhere else. And that's the

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ultimate goal, is to just get
the people that do not want to be

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patronizing these places, to get them
to go somewhere else. Leave, go

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home, but don't be down here
trying to ruin people that are you know,

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they're knights that are just trying to
come down here and patronize, you

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know, these businesses in the banks
and enjoy themselves. Officer ken Cooper,

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Let's go back to the beginning of
this, and that is judges that set

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low bonds. Is the idea that
you don't you know, snitches get stitches.

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Is that the two people that have
been arrested and they quickly got out

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on bond. I think Judge Kerrie
Bloom, who's the who's the liberal judge

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and juvenile court as an attitude about
this, plus the magistrates said bond that

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she wants to be set. So
in two cases, you had one individual

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get out on a ten thousand dollars
at ten percent, which means you put

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up one thousand dollars and you're out, and the other one received an EMU

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electronic a monitoring unit on your ankle. In other words, both are out

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quickly and they know who the other
individuals are. But is there a sense

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among the criminal element that you can't
talk to the place and give names because

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you yourself are going to get hurt
and treat it like those other victims.

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Is the snitches get stitches? Is
that an article of faith among the gang

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bangers? Well, you know,
I think there is. There's certainly an

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element of that. But you know, when you're talking about these young folks

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that are involved in these I mean, these are fourteen, fifteen, sixteen

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year old kids that are committing these
crimes. Sooner or later, these kids

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are going to go, you know
what, if I can save my tale

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to tell on somebody, they're most
likely going to And that's kind of what

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they're looking at now. I know
there's a lot of evidence that's being reviewed

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by these investigators, and in fact, the video there's really released last night.

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They believe that there there's probably going
to be some commonalities in the suspects

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between both incidents and the first incident
outside the restaurant that this this this group

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was waiting in an alley and then
they saw somebody walking. What was the

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motive? Somebody, some little girl
should appeared to be eight or nine years

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old as this customer is laying on
the sidewalk, walks up and takes his

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cell phone. What is the is
it? What is the motivation to do

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that? Was it to get his
wallet? Could cash get the cell phone?

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Or is this simply a not out
to have fun from their perspective,

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Well, what tell me the mechanism
at work as far as picking a victim

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and where they hide before they launched
their attack. I think this was just

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a matter of this was just a
mob rule. I mean, they had

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no other reason to do this to
this person other than just because they fen't

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like it. I guess they figured
it would be fun to go down there

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and you know, beat the living
car out of somebody and ask their cell

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phone and take their wallet, because
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do. On a Tuesday night,
and as far as the one you released

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last night explained the circumstances of that, the one they attacked, there was

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another African American kid in a hoodie
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What was the motivation for that?
If you know? My understanding is

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that was just a young teenager that
was after school going to get onto his

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bus to be able to go home, and for no other reason than he

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was just walking down the street,
they decided to attack him. I mean,

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I can only suspect that with some
of the things going down on there

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is that maybe he just wasn't from
the neighborhood of this other mob of kids

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and they decided that they were going
to assault him just because they felt like

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it. How badly was he hurt? Because to be unconscious on the street

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beaten doing consciousness and I have two
or three individuals then kick you in the

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face and the head. Is he
doing okay or not? My understanding is

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he is recovering. However, that
he did have some pretty pretty serious injuries

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that it's being investigated as a colonious
assault. And so the motive is what

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the motive is? He doesn't belong
on the There is no motive, it's

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just something to do. And the
number of people that watched it and then

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encourage it, and whatever school those
kids went to that the two perpetrators in

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the first incident are back out right
now. I would assume trying to go

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to grade school or high school and
it's it's not like a terrible thing to

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engage in that behavior because you don't
know the names of the other people involved.

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And I guess you can say,
how does someone how does a father?

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How to mother? How does somebody
look at that and say, downtown

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Cincinnati is safe? Oh, I
ask you the big question, Officer Ken

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Kober or the FOP, is downtown
Cincinnati is safe. I think it's relatively

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safe. It just depends on the
time of day you're down there. You

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know what's going on. You know, after school is an absolute challenge.

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You have kids coming from all over
the city that are going down there to

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Government Square to be able to pick
their bus up to go back to their

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neighborhood, and it is just a
boiling point. You have kids from different

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schools, different neighborhoods that are all
now in one venue that have the opportunity

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to go fight each other, and
they've got the freeway to get down there.

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You know, they've got a bus
pass. So it's just inviting this

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behavior, you know, to to
eventually erupt, and that's what you're seeing.

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I have a sense this is going
to continue. This isn't a new

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event. Hasn't this been metastasizing the
last several years, and this is this

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is simply something that occurs. And
these two events happen to be videoed.

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Well, how many times do these
things happen not on video, doesn't doesn't

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get to TV, doesn't get to
radio. Does this happen more often than

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these are private bussing and decided instead
we're just going to give these kids bus

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passes for them to be able to
move about the city. Well, it's

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been an absolute disaster, and you
know, the police are getting tired of

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it. I understand why. You
know, every day when you're having kids

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running around Government Square and Fountain Square, just fighting, running amok, and

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it's all been something that's precipitated by
not having the bussing that they should have

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for these kids. Ken Cobert,
do you have the support and the things

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necessary from city council, from the
city manager, and from the mayor to

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stop this. Because it's an ongoing
situation, I would assume you don't have

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the right tools. Am I right
or wrong? I can tell you that

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the administration has been very supportive of
me speaking out about this. I know

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there have been several meetings. You
know, they're making a good faith effort

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at this point to try to figure
out how to how to come up with

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a solution. So you know,
the time will tell whether or not things

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actually get done. But I do
believe that they realize that this is a

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problem, and right now they're just
working on solutions and as far as getting

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the correct bond set, as far
as locking these people up, as far

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as getting them help. That's a
key element because if two or three actually

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go to prison and spend time in
jail, the message is sent to friends

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and companions in those schools, well, we better not do this. We're

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going to be locked up. But
when within twenty four hours those who commit

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these felonious assaults are back in school, back with their bus passes, snickering

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and laughing about what happened, that
doesn't send much of a message, does

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it. You're absolutely right. I
mean, there have to be consequences for

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these actions. Joh And, like
I said, anybody that will listen to

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me, we're not talking about low
level misdemeanors. We're not talking about a

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thirteen year old steal on a bag
of chips from Kroger. We're talking about

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a group of eight kids that are
stamping the daylights out of unsuspecting victims for

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no other reason than it's just fun
for them to do. They need to

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be held accountable, and until they're
held accountable, these things are just going

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to continue. Officer ken Kobert,
talk to me about the cop that was

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hurt. Because these aren't well publicized. I know every year there's about five

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hundred Cincinnati police officers that are beaten. In one sense, now, there's

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just a total lack of respect for
law and order and cops. Of course,

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in many major cities, Cincinnati's about
ten years behind Chicago, Cleveland,

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Los Angeles as far as disrespect for
cops. And there's not much of a

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defund the police movement here as there
been in major cities. But that's who

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knows the future. But tell us
about the officer that was beaten recently.

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So Saturday night, Sunday morning,
a couple officers responded to a report of

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a business being robbed up in Clifton. Upon arriving, they get there and

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they realize that the suspect had gone. They get a description, will they

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locate the suspect. This suspect that
had jumped over the counter was trying to

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take a register from a restaurant that
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approach him. He turns around and
just starts fighting with these officers. During

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this struggle, one of the officers
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get him in handcuffs. Well,
then he realizes that he's got part of

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a bone sticking out of it his
knee, So he was transported up to

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UC. He was there for out
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They did some work on his knee, and he's now at home recovering.

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That suspect was charged, and I
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arraignment, Judge Bichard gave him a
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he's making the effort to make sure
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and that's something that certainly we appreciate. Now three hundred thousands. So during

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the fight, his kneecap shattered and
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Yeah, he actually had three fragments
from his knee cap that were sticking

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out that all had to be removed
and then had to get some stitches,

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and he's got some follow up to
see internally what other damage he has to

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his knee. I would imagine this
perpetrator had a previous criminal record. You

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don't begin in your life a crime
by fighting a cop. And when you

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fight a cop who has guns and
mace and he's got taser's got all that

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stuff, it's a life and death
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as available to the assailant as it
is the comp Did this perpetrator have a

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previous criminal record? Do you know? Actually he was previously convicted for a

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robbery and was out on felony as
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and he has been in and out
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yeah, I mean, he's a
convicted felon that's out doing the exact same

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thing that he was convicted of just
a couple of years prior. You know

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the name of the judge who gave
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don't. I do know that he
did spend some time in jail, he

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spent some time in a mental facility. I don't really know the facts of

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why he was out running around,
but I do know that at some point

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there was at least some accountability.
But clearly there just wasn't enough. But

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he said, I'm not sure of
all of the facts of that prior case,

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so we'll wait for the next release
of video. But there are many

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of these assaults that occur not on
videotape, so it never gets to channels

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five, nine, twelve, and
nineteen doesn't get here is the two incidents

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we've recently seen the tip of the
iceberg. Are there more of these events

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happening that we aren't on tape?
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I don't. I don't think it's
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Yeah, there are a lot of
these things that are going on that

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just needs to stop. It begins
with cops, and secondly it begins with

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prosecutors, and thirdly, it begins
and ends with judges. And if you

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have judges who release individuals who do
this kind of stuff willy nilly. That's

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a problem. And we have a
problem in Hamlet County which is soft headed

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judges other than Brigard and other than
pat Ningkelock or there's other judges out there

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who simply have a pitter patter attitude
when it comes to law enforcement. They

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don't want these individuals locked up.
We have a dysfunctional juvenile court system,

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and we have a dysfunctional juvenile penal
system that the governor wants to change.

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But it all begins with judges locking
up individuals like this. If you're in

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the gang, kicking someone in the
head and stealing from them without reason or

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purpose, just picking out victims for
fun or profit, those are the individuals

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that need to be locked up.
But once again, Officer ken Kober,

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thank you for coming on the Bill
Cunningham Show and get my best to the

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men and women in blue in the
city of Cincinnati. And thank you.

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Officer I will thank you appreciate you
having me. Kenkober, Thank you all.

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Let's continue with more. Ken Kober
is the new head of the FOP

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and these things are disgusting. It's
the reason there's a lot of empty storefronts

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in downtown Cincinnati. Another reason many
good restaurants and OTR are closing because of

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a lack of business because individuals like
Tony Bender are not incentivized to go down

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to OTR and to enjoy that and
come out on a summer's night. What's

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going to happen? And it begins
with cops, and we have good cops.

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Then it goes to prosecutors who are
charging correctly. Then it comes to

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a judge other than Judge Carrie Bloom
of Amity County Juvenile Court who's a liberal,

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to actually set bonds to indicate we
got the right person. The message

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is sent, We're not going to
put up with this, and we need

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that message now. My other comments
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the Great American. And we continue. We never stop. We simply

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continue. Three or four issues are
percolating. After one o'clock today, the

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great Peter Bronson will be here about
when Cincinnati was on attack from Covington.

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Literally in the eighteen sixties during the
Civil War, Kentuckians were formed on the

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northern shore to attack and assault Hambleton
County. So we're going to talk about

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that in the general that saved Cincinnati. After two o'clock today is Rick Hamilton.

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He's one of the great appraisers in
the tri State. To talk about

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what to do if you have a
property tax bill that you think is too

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great, and there's an easy way
of appealing that. After two o'clock,

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Rick Hamilton's going to discuss it.
And what it means is that there's a

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two page form go in Hamlety County
the Otters Office, download the form and

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you can file quote an appeal to
the Board of Revision. And it's a

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simple procedure. I've been there,
it's been many years, representing a couple

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friends of mine who wanted to get
their property tax bill reduced and they were

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successful. But the key is to
get a good appraisal of your home because

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theor's office, under state statutes doesn't
really come into your house. They look

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at you from ten thousand feet up
and they don't particularize the appraisal for your

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particular home. And the issue is
not one of need or I filed bankruptcy,

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I lost my job. That doesn't
matter. It's the value of your

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home as if January first, twenty
twenty three, more than a year ago.

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So it deals specifically with the real
estate sales and the last half of

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twenty twenty two. So if you
don't get it reduced now, the appraisal

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in three years from now is going
to be a lot higher because most of

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the run up and prices happened in
the year twenty twenty three. That doesn't

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matter on this particular revision of your
real estate taxes. One one twenty three

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is the operative date. So if
you get it reduced now, that'll be

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the starting point for three years from
now and three years after that. So

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you're going to save serious money.
And I know Chris Finny attorney's involved with

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some of these corporate reappraisals, but
Rick Hamilton of appraisals first, and his

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phone number, by the way is
six nine eight eighty seventy five one three,

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six nine and eighty seventy At two
o'clock today, he's going to tell

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you how you, as a regular
schlep citizen, can actually save money the

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great majority of time. It's in
my experience, the border revision is an

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informal proceeding. It's not like in
court. You walk in with your appraiser

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or your appraisal and give it to
them and they look at it and they

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generally just say at that point,
okay, we'll reduce it, and then

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you walk out and the way you
go, So do not curse the darkness

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light of candle. And lastly,
before I talk about crime and River City,

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when you vote for levees, that
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So when you vote for the Zoo
levee, the museum Center Levee, the

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Developmental Disability Service, the Family Services
and Treatment Levy, the Library levee,

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the Energy and Care Levee, the
UC Medical Center Levy, the Children's Hospital

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Medical Center levee, the Hamony County
Sheriff Inmate Medical Levee, the Amony County

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Juvenile Court Inmate Medical Levee, the
Mental Health and Recovery Services Board. When

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you vote for the Hamony County Public
Health Levy, the Central Clinic Alternative Interventions

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for Women Levy, the Saint Vincent
DePaul Charitable Pharmacy Levee, the Strategies to

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End Homelessness Levy, the Amony County
Probate Court, Civil Commitment Levy, the

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Hamony County Job and Family Services Levy, the Mental Health and Retardation Recovery Services

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Board, the Council and Aging of
Southwest Ohio Levey, the Hamlony County Job

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and Family Services Levee, Hammony County
Veteran Services Levee, and more. Your

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property taxes go up. All these
levees pass automatically. I don't think a

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levee has failed within my memory in
hamilin a count The other counties don't have

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all these levees. We have them, and the property taxes, especially in

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places like the city of Cincinnati,
CPS is confiscatory. It's unbelievable. And

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so think when you vote for these
levees what you're doing to your property tax

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bill. But there is a way
to lower your bill, and after two

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o'clock today, Rick Hamilton will be
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So stay tuned for that now.
Secondly, or thirdly, what's happening

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in Cincinnati with crime, which is
awful, is happening to a much greater

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extent in other American cities. Ten
years later, Cincinnati will be like Chicago,

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Portland, Los Angeles, and Atlanta. It takes us a long time

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because right now we have a good
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Ce PD is good, Hamilton County
Sheriff's office is good, and the thirty

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seven or thirty eight police agencies in
Hamlin County are pretty good. And so

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we're not quite there yet, not
quite in New York, Philadelphia, Atlanta,

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we're not there yet. But if
we change direction as to where we

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are right now, we likely will
not get there. If we keep the

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same prosecutor Melissa Powers, because she
will prosecute people seriously, it'll delay the

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inevitable. And in CPD, we
have a good one thousand strong member of

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Police Division that needs about three hundred
more members. Instead of spending money on

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street cars, it'd be really great
if city council would spend money hiring more

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police officers and paying them more money. In the City of Portland had a

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guest on Sunday night. They're paying
their starting cops one hundred and ten thousand

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dollars a year, one hundred and
ten grand, and they still can't fill

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the positions. I think CPD starts
about fifty five or sixty. Jump that

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to one hundred thousand dollars a year
to start. Give every you want a

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twenty to thirty thousand dollars raised deputy
sheriffs, corrections officers. Make this the

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hallmark of law enforcement right now should
be the City of Cincinnati, because we're

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teetering. You can't have mobs of
individuals picking out pigeons to attack into assault

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for no reason whatsoever. And a
good chunk of what's happening in the media,

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which tends not to want to report
these facts, is that the face

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of crime in Cincinnati is largely a
young male black face. There was a

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time about five or six years ago
when the Inquirer put the face of every

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person killed in the city of Cincinnati. Everyone was a black face. And

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I've said it before, and I'll
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The face of crime in Cincinnati or
in Dayton is largely a black male

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face. But the great majority of
black males, young black males, want

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nothing to do with crime at all. They're victims of it. Statistically,

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stay with me on this. According
to the Census Bureau, there's about one

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hundred and thirty thousand African Americans who
live in the city Cincinnati. One hundred

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and thirty thousand, Okay. Of
that number, say sixty five thousand are

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males. And of that number,
about eighteen thousand are between the ages of

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fourteen and thirty. Eighteen thousand of
that eighteen thousand may be as many as

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five percent are involved in criminal activity. Ninety five percent of young black males

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want to work, go to school, love their parents, get an education,

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get a job, and perform like
anyone else. When I see those

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two all three soldiers killed in Jordan
were African Americans yesterday, and two were

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young. They were in their twenties
and they're defending this great country. Black

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males at Mueller, black males at
Deer Park, black males at Simon Kenton

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have nothing to do with crime.
There's a small says small, having a

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greatly larger impact in the city of
Cincinnati. So the media doesn't like to

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often put the faces of criminals up
because in the city of Cincinnati Hamley County,

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it's largely a young black male face
while the great majority, over ninety

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five percent want nothing to do with
crime. And we understand that. You

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understand that. Go down a room
A and the Justice Center. Just sit

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there and look who who's arrested the
night before. It's probably ninety percent young

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black males. While the great majority, you young black males have nothing to

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do with crime. They're good kids. Kids at Ache and Western Hills use

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no problem. The five percent element, which comprises about one thousand young black

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males, commit probably ninety percent of
the crime, as told to me by

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Joe Eaters Melissa Powers in the Prosecutor's
office. If they could get that small

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number and lock them up and separate
them, crime would go down precipitously.

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It doesn't happen. We have a
dysfunctional judiciary now in Hamlin County. It's

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teetering. It's like half judges will
lock up vicies criminals and the other half

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will not. When Hamilty County Juvenile
Court head in front of them last couple

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days, two of the individuals who
kick the crap out of innocent victims on

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the streets of Cincinnati, kicking them
in the head with their boots, causing

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serious physical harm. That's called felonious
assault. That's an f two go to

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prison for ten years for that.
How do those two individuals get out on

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bond posting little or no bond?
How does that happen? I don't understand

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it when you look at the video. We have the right person. This

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is causing mayhem and destruction in the
city that I love. And we have

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a large number generally liberal Democratic judges
who don't want to put black in jail

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for the crimes they commit, which
costs the black community a lot more than

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anyone else. I see, my
friend Lincoln Beware, it's with me on

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this one thousand percent. And it's
not about racism. Mythical racism is not

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the cause of this. It's no
fathers in the home. It's no sense

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of God, it's no sense of
a future. It's listening to rap music.

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It's acting out to your fantasies of
smash and grab robberies and maybe a

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gang ritual in which you have to
do something to prove your loyalty to the

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gang. And in every American city
it's the same problem. If you go

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to Chicago, go to Dayton,
New York, Atlanta, the face of

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crime is a young black male face, but you can't call it out because

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you have the possibility of being called
a racist for pointing out reality. It's

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racial but not racist. By that, I mean a great majority of young

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black kids in Atlanta want nothing to
do with crime. But that five percentile

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in a large city like Atlanta is
maybe several thousand that engage themselves in these

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activities. They need to be separated
from society to protect it, especially those

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who live in the black community that
want to have a functional life, and

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so call it out for what it
is. Make sure you elect judges who

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will lock these scoundrels up for long
periods of time and not release them quickly

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on bond and get them treatment.
Are you kidding me? That's not the

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way it's supposed to work. And
the mythical racism, the fake claims of

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racism, sickens me because we don't
live in that society anymore. And these

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criminals, whatever description, must be
separated from our society. And if they're

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not separated, the social debauchery that
you see in Chicago and Atlanta's going to

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come right to Cincinnati, going to
be right here. And I find with

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interest the comments of the new FOP
head Ken Kober about the bus system.

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I have a text here from Denny
from Dayton who says the following that Dayton

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Public schools gave their kids bus passes
years ago and to destroyed the bus system

427
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because paying adults did not want to
ride on the circus wagons and destroy the

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downtown business community. They have since
gone to a mostly school system, but

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it's too late. So the answer
is, yes, they want to get

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rid of the bus system, But
then tens of thousands of kids from CPS

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ride the bus, and that five
percent calls havoc and turmoil and chaos all

432
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over the place, and we can
stop it. The message has got to

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be sent when you engage yourself a
mob type criminal activities. You will go

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to jail for a long time.
Those two kids released on those recent beatings

435
00:31:57.920 --> 00:32:01.440
are snickering at the court system.
No big deal, I'm under eighteen.

436
00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:06.359
There's nothing you can do do to
me. That wasn't the case when Judge

437
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:10.279
Sylvia Hendon was there, or Judge
Grossman was there, or when Judge Melissa

438
00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:14.839
Powers was in juvenile court. They
separated the whek from the chaff. They

439
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:17.119
said, Okay, you steal a
bag of chips from Walmart, that's one

440
00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:23.039
thing. But a mob of kids
that attack shoppers and others in downtown business

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00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:27.400
district and kick the crap out of
them, almost kill them, those are

442
00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:30.640
the ones that need to be separated
from society to protect all the communities,

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especially the black community. That's what
has to happen. It's not happening now.

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In fact, it's likely to get
worse. We have a functioning law

445
00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:43.440
enforcement status in Hamlin County at this
point, the Sheriff's Office, City of

446
00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:47.440
Cincinnati, the other thirty eight police
agencies in Hamlin County are functional. We

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00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:53.160
continue down this path of freeing criminals
so they can commit more crime. That's

448
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:55.839
going to dissipate. It's going to
be hard to find men and women wanting

449
00:32:55.839 --> 00:33:00.599
to serve, and the sheriff's officer
and the CP or whatever. It begins

450
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:06.920
with the idea of good cops,
good prosecutors, and good judges. The

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00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:10.960
problem is solvable. It can happen, but not when you have liberal judges

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00:33:12.119 --> 00:33:15.759
who might want to go back twenty
five to thirty years and find that some

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00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:20.519
murder in blue ash in a hotel
was wrongfully decided by the other fifty judges

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that looked at it, which you
know, Judge Wendy Cross went back in

455
00:33:23.839 --> 00:33:29.839
time some thirty or forty years and
wanted to try a murder case, and

456
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:35.200
that was absurd. Nonetheless, we
get the government we deserve. Let's continue

457
00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:38.799
with more coming up later will be
Peter Bronson. He's written a book of

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a general who saved Cincinnati from the
marauders from Boone and Kenton County. And

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00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:51.119
maybe the election of twenty twenty four
might be like the election of eighteen sixty

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00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:57.480
plus. Later on, as Rick
Hamilton of appraisals first about how to challenge

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00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:00.680
your property tax bill and how to
do it properly and what you can do

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00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:05.920
to win. You got to win
because this appraisal dealt with the last half

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00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:09.280
of twenty twenty two, which will
form the basis of three years from now,

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and so it is easy to do. Believe me, it's easy,

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00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:17.239
but you have to know what to
do. Listen after two o'clock to Rick

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00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:22.159
Hamilton and he will tell you.
Let's continue twelve fifty sixth to the home

467
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:27.440
of the Great American Bill Cunningham News
Radio seven hundred. Wow. Maybe it's

468
00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:30.519
cold outside but not inside thanks to
Pellow Windows and Doors rated number one for

469
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highest quality Dan Horde for Pellow Windows
and Doors of Greater Cincinnati tackle cold weather

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of the low, bad, the
low the bowl. I Billy Cunningham,

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00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:45.599
the Great American. I've been an
hour. Rick Hamilton will be here from

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Appraisals first to talk about how you
can contest your property tax bill. Very

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00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:52.519
simple, very easy, but you
got to do it to save money.

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But until then, the man who
saved Cincinnati by Peter Bronson, author of

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Not in Our Town and Forbidden Fruit
Man. His name is a General Lou

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00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:04.920
Wallace. Let's go back in time. You make a reference to eighteen sixty

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being similar to twenty twenty four.
Ohell, believable. Tell me it's amazing.

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Okay, President Buchanan at the time
was so close to being Biden,

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it's unbelievable. He was uh huh. He was a lifelong party hack.

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He had never done anything in the
private sector. He finally rose to the

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presidency, and he was widely despised
for being so ineffectual and halfway destroying the

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country. In fact, for the
first two years of the Civil War it

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was known as Buchanan's War because because
he's the one who did nothing to bring

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the Union together and put patches over
these things and let it go where it

485
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went. So how close was Lincoln
coming to winning or losing? And was

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he on the ballot? Lincoln was
not even on the ballot in ten states.

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So we talk about you know,
you hear news reports this is unprecedent.

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00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:53.960
They're trying to keep President Trump off
the ballot. No, it's not

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00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:59.679
unprecedented. It happened in eighteen sixty. Lincoln was running in a four way

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race. He won less than forty
percent of the vote and won by a

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00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:07.960
plurality. So Lincoln barely snuck into
the presidency in eighteen sixty. Over who

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00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:12.239
was he running against? He was
running against three other guys. One of

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them was Breckinridge, John Breckinridge,
who was Buchanan's vice president. He must

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have been a real incomponent. Well
he was actually now he turned Breckinridge turned

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00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:28.000
into the Southern Democrats party leader from
the pro slavery issue and became one of

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the generals for the Confederate Army.
So that's what was happening in this country.

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Okay, a few more parallels we
had. These amazing similarities were that,

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for example, we had the country
totally divided over immigration in eighteen sixty.

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The Democrats were using it to populate
and swell the northern cities where they

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could gain a majority, a political
cloud in the House and Senate. So

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00:36:57.159 --> 00:37:00.840
all the new immigrants weren't going to
the South because it was and there weren't

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00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:05.360
jobs. The jobs were held by
slaves, so immigration was weaponized. We

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00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:10.760
had an outsider Republican who got elected
barely and was hated by the establishment and

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00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:15.480
reviled by the media. That man
was Abraham Lincoln. Yet like thirty eight

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00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:17.800
percent of the vote, Yeah,
kept off the ballot in ten states,

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and the media hated him. They
mocked him. What Trump you mean,

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00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:28.519
Lincoln? Lincoln. These parallels are
amazing free speech was hazardous. In fact,

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00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:35.599
there were midnight raids to arrest political
enemies. Abraham Lincoln approved that General

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00:37:35.639 --> 00:37:42.079
Burnside sent federal troops up to Dayton
to arrest one of the leading abolition or

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00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:46.400
pardon me copperheads who was stirring up
too much trouble. And his name was

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00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:52.079
Clement Vlandingham. And they actually broken
into his house, knocked down his door,

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00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:54.119
and hauled him out in the street
in his pajamas, took him to

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prison, gave him no constitutional rights, no habeas corpus, and kept in

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00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:05.840
prison until they finally couldn't got too
hot because they had obviously violated his constitutional

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00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:08.719
rights, and they ended up making
a deal where they took him down to

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00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:13.320
the Confederates and handed him over.
So this is like today with Trump being

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00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:15.840
and died in ninety one counts,
Trump being vilified, Trump being kept off

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the ballot. See what happened to
lank And the immigrants had to go to

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northern cities because that would swell the
power in the Congress, much like today

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00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:28.960
the immigrants are going to blue cities
to have on the census. You have

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00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:31.719
more clout because you don't have to
be a citizen just have to be a

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human being. And that's why they're
putting him in California, Illinois, in

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00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:42.039
New York to get Cloud away from
Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana. So the

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00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:46.199
North had totally taken and seized monopoly
on political power, and the South was

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00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:52.119
pretty much shut out. And this
alienated the South even more because they knew

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that what the North was going to
be doing with this was they would come

527
00:38:54.400 --> 00:39:01.239
after them with what they called the
abominable tariffs, and the terriffs seized Southern

528
00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:06.559
cotton and put tariffs on it so
high it couldn't be sold to Europe at

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00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:12.159
fair market value like China today and
good good analogy, and they steered it

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00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:16.119
up to the eastern seaboard where the
textile industry of the North wanted Southern cotton.

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00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:20.199
So what's happening today has happened before. I was like, this is

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00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:23.079
unprecedented. You know, it's an
existential threat. No, No, eighteen

533
00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:29.000
sixty eighteen, that was a problem. This was the Antebellum period. Free

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00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:31.960
one more. I'll give you political
attacks on members of Congress. We know

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00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:36.320
what happened to Steve Scalise, we
know what happened to Ran Paul Well.

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00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:42.360
In eighteen sixties, a congressman,
a senator by the name of Charles Sumner,

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00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:45.880
an abolitionists, was almost beaten to
death on the floor of the Senate

538
00:39:46.360 --> 00:39:51.400
by a Southern gentleman by the name
of Preston Brooks. He took a cane,

539
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:53.559
didn't He beat the crap at caned
him on the floor of the Senate,

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00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:57.480
on the floor of the Senate.
Well, if something happens today,

541
00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:00.880
we experienced it. It's like never
happened. Or is the highest, the

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00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:02.599
greatest, the worst? And in
reality it's not that way at all.

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Let's talk about Kentucky and Ohio.
Yes, sir, Kentucky where I was

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born, where I was raised a
family from Elsmere and Erlanger was a slave

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state, but it was not part
of the Confederacy. Please explain. It

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00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:19.920
would not join the Confederacy and it
would not join the Union. Kentucky was

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the Switzerland of the Civil War.
Abraham Lincoln said, I hope that God

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is on our side, but we
must have Kentucky. And he was born

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in Kentucky. He was born in
Kentucky. And when he was elected president,

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he got less than one percent of
the vote in his own home state.

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Really yes, sorry, So Abraham
Lincoln got one percent of the vote

552
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in Kentucky. Yes, and Kentucky
declared they would remain neutral, which didn't

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last for long because both armies ended
up fighting major battles in Kentucky. But

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Kentucky's very curious because they sent more
if you're going to look at it,

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00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:55.159
which side they favored. More of
the young men in Kentucky fought for the

556
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Union than for the Confederacy. But
after the war Kentucky had the most Confederate

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monuments of any state in the Union. Why well, they had suddenly decided

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00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:10.840
they were pro Southern and the Deep
with the loss in the Deep South states

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00:41:12.519 --> 00:41:16.719
really mocked Kentucky for oh, now
you're on our side. When we needed

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00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:20.440
you, you weren't there. Peter
Bronson, you have a great photo on

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00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:24.079
your book The Man who Saved Cincinnati, in which the peering of the Suspension

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Bridge. There was no bridge at
that point, correct, There wasn't Brent

563
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:31.360
Spence Bridge. There was nothing.
There was nothing to go across the Ohio

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00:41:31.480 --> 00:41:36.320
River. And by the way I
read this, it was many times five

565
00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:39.199
feet deep and you could walk across
and explain, well, the river wasn't

566
00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:42.800
very high, but they did need
a bridge, and they had begun the

567
00:41:43.159 --> 00:41:49.880
work on the suspension bridge the Robling
just before the war. But Cincinnati as

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00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:52.719
a huge center of commerce. Let's
let's take a detour here for a minute

569
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:57.719
to talk about how Cincinnati was super
important. We were the queen city of

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the West because we were the sixth
largest city in they we had We were

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00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:07.440
twice the size of Chicago, four
times bigger than San Francisco, four times

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00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:10.920
five times bigger than Pittsburgh, Detroit, Cleveland. So this was a huge

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00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:15.599
center of commerce. But when the
war came along, everything dried up because

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most of that commerce was across the
Ohio River, and when we stopped doing

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00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:23.440
business with Kentucky and the South,
things got tight. The bridge had to

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00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:28.840
be The work was suspended, much
like the subway many years later, which

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00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:31.280
I've been in with Charlie Luken.
He took me into the subway. Unbelievable,

578
00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:36.199
but nonetheless I find for those who
may not know this, the Higho

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River without the damming, it was
often it was almost dry. It was

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00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:43.840
muddy puddles five feet deep walk across
it. So the idea of building a

581
00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:46.840
bridge, I'd read of a bridge
and not but to invade. So the

582
00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:52.199
idea was in the eighteen fifties to
build that bridge, the so called Suspension

583
00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:54.159
bridge. The funding dried up,
but the neighbor and Lincoln had to say,

584
00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:57.800
we got to finish that bridge.
We got to get Union soldiers.

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00:42:58.000 --> 00:43:01.760
But explain the man who saved Cincinnati, because Rob Sanders and Tony Bender would

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00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:07.960
be shocked to learn that major general
saved Cincinnati. In fact, explained the

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00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:12.039
battle war. Kenton County wanted to
invade Hamilman County. Well, it wasn't

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00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:16.519
really Kenton County. In fact,
the mayor of Cincinnati was a copperhead and

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00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:20.800
he wanted to surrender to the South. What's a copperhead? That would be

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00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:25.840
somebody who supported the South and supported
slavery in Ohio, supported the Confederacy.

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00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:30.199
Yes, there were a lot of
them, and so Cincinnati had more than

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00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:34.920
its share. They even hit Well
we'll get into that later maybe, But

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so the mayor of Cincinnati had agreed
with the mayors of Covington and Newport they

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00:43:38.639 --> 00:43:43.719
would surrender because they heard er.
Yeah, this army was coming up from

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00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:47.519
Lexington, nine thousand battle hardened Confederates. They were angry who had been winning

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00:43:47.559 --> 00:43:52.360
battles all across the South nine thousand
and these were little guys. You said

597
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:55.679
this off the air. The average
Confederate Union soldiers made five to six weigh

598
00:43:55.679 --> 00:43:59.960
one hundred pounds one hundred and twenty
one hundred and thirty. Didn't look like

599
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:05.039
guys, like strapping males, not
guys, and many were very malnourished.

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They came from hard scrabble farms and
and really tough urban areas where they were

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00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:15.679
orphans. These they were tough,
small, they were tough, yes,

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00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:20.599
and so explain what happened. So
these Confederates general by the name of Henry

603
00:44:20.599 --> 00:44:22.880
Heath, who is quite a guy
you'll find in the book, the kind

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00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:25.039
of guy you would love to me, I love this kind of guy.

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Oh yes, So he gets these
guys, he gets his army together,

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and he goes to his commander,
General Kirby Smith, and he says,

607
00:44:31.719 --> 00:44:35.960
I think Cincinnati is an apple ready
to fall off the tree. We got

608
00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:39.400
the Confederate sympathizer in the in the
mayor's position on Street, and we've got

609
00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:45.239
all these Union material for war.
We've got uniforms, wagons, horses,

610
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:50.760
mules, gold, tons of gold
in the Cincinnati Bank vaults. Go get

611
00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:52.239
them, Go get them. And
he says that apple is going to fall

612
00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:54.800
off the tree. And he says, can I take it? And Kirby

613
00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:59.920
Smith says, go take it.
Cincinnati's under earth. They start marching north.

614
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:04.119
Mayor Hatch and the other two mayors
say, we're just going to surrender.

615
00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:06.679
We can't take a chance that our
city is going to be burned.

616
00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:12.199
Because the threat was that Henry Heath
with his nine thousand men, this undefended

617
00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:16.119
queen city of the North, has
nothing to defend it, no police really

618
00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:21.000
to speak of, no army,
no nothing, no National Guard at the

619
00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:23.519
time, and it was able to
be burned because most of the buildings were

620
00:45:23.519 --> 00:45:27.679
would exactly, we didn't have concrete. So his threat was to set up

621
00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:31.239
cannons on the hills in Newport and
Covington and threaten the city with a siege

622
00:45:31.320 --> 00:45:37.000
and say, look, you either
pay us, he said, a ransom

623
00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:40.880
of what would amount to about a
five hundred and fifty five million today,

624
00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:45.039
which was about fifteen million at that
time, We're going to pay us not

625
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:49.239
to invade. Yes, And so
the cannons are set up and the children,

626
00:45:49.480 --> 00:45:53.280
the grandfather of Rob Sanders and Tony
Bender are manning the cannons, and

627
00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:57.280
they're ready to fire on the city
of Cincinnati. And we got a mayor

628
00:45:57.320 --> 00:46:00.519
who's a sympathizer with the South,
and that is exciting. Tell me what

629
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:04.199
happened next. This is so they're
ready to surrender on a Sunday night,

630
00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:07.679
and lou Wallace is sent over from
Crawfordsville, Indiana. A general. A

631
00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:12.480
general, he's a hero of Shiloh. There he is. I'm looking at

632
00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:15.760
his picture. He thought it was
eighteen sixty general. Right, Yes,

633
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:19.320
that is Look at the beard not
bad. Yeah, you can't have any

634
00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:22.400
chili with that kind of beard anyway. Please continue. So he comes over

635
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:29.320
from Crawfordsville, and in three days
he had shown the city how to defend

636
00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:31.519
itself. No bridge of this,
he said, no bridge. He and

637
00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:37.599
an architect in town put together a
pontoon bridge by using coal barges from the

638
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:42.599
Licking River. They strapped them together, and they marched across into the hills

639
00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:45.880
of northern Kentucky. And they started
digging rifle pits and bringing over what cannons

640
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:50.639
they could muster. In some cases
they even made what were called Quaker cannons

641
00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:54.320
out of logs that they painted black
to look like cannons, and they dug

642
00:46:54.360 --> 00:47:00.239
all these rifle pits. And meanwhile
they had this huge migration of what were

643
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:05.440
called the squirrel hunters, who were
backwoodsmen who came to rush to the defense

644
00:47:05.480 --> 00:47:10.119
of Cincinnati. So this guy Wallace
put together a makeshift army, yes he

645
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:14.239
did. Who was in the army
in Cincinnati to defend us against Kenton,

646
00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:17.599
Boone and Campbell County. It was
basically squirrel hunters and a few regiments that

647
00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:22.119
were supplied by Indiana and Columbus,
and they cleaned out their armories. They

648
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:27.920
scraped up whatever they could to send
over to Cincinnati, because they knew if

649
00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:31.079
Henry Heath marched up and took Cincinnati, he would split the Union in half,

650
00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:37.519
and the Union would probably be forced
to sue for peace, and America

651
00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:40.000
would be forever divided. What year
was this, This would be eighteen sixty

652
00:47:40.039 --> 00:47:43.320
two, in the fall, when
things are a little you know, things

653
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:46.360
are a little iffy. At this
point, Bettysburg in sixty three hadn't happened

654
00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:50.760
yet. That was close, Yes, sixty two. The Confederacy might have

655
00:47:50.840 --> 00:47:55.599
won if they took Cincinnati and split
the Union and a great sixth largest city

656
00:47:55.599 --> 00:48:00.719
in the country. Cincinnati falls to
the hands the blood thirstes coirrel hunters.

657
00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:06.239
Explain what happened, and so at
this point they all they had to do

658
00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:08.559
was take Cincinnati and it would have
opened up all of the Midwest. Now

659
00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:12.559
they can go on up into Michigan, they can take Chicago, they can

660
00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:15.840
basically, that's a little Miami River, great Miami River. Get going.

661
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:19.360
What happened in this battle with Wallace, the man who saved Cincinnati. So

662
00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:24.599
he puts together this amazing army and
basically, but they're not really trained army.

663
00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:29.519
None of them had seen a bullet
fly. And all these squirrel hunters

664
00:48:29.559 --> 00:48:35.480
were impressive in numbers, but they
had basically muzzle loading old squirrel guns that

665
00:48:35.679 --> 00:48:37.559
you know, you might be really
good with that gun, but it's nothing

666
00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:43.760
like when those guys could do this. Squirrel and those nine thousand were battle

667
00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:46.320
hardened guys. They had fought and
won at battle after battle. They were

668
00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:52.599
the survivors. And not only that, Kirby Smith had already promised Heath that

669
00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:57.800
he would send up reinforcements as soon
as he could get to Cincinnati, and

670
00:48:57.880 --> 00:49:01.800
Cincinnati didn't have I seventy one I
seventy was walking through woods, through creeks.

671
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:06.400
They got what happened at the battle. They got as far as Fort

672
00:49:06.440 --> 00:49:10.079
Mitchell. And there's a famous story, and it's documented in my book,

673
00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:15.239
where Wallace is standing on one parapet
looking through his binoculars and Heath is standing

674
00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:20.280
on a rooftop about a mile away
looking through his binoculars, and they stare

675
00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:23.400
each other down and the battle is
about to begin. The skirmishes start,

676
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:30.679
they start shooting at each other.
Men are getting killed. And then the

677
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:35.519
South lost its nerve. A big
battle was building down in the South,

678
00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:42.360
in southern Kentucky around Louisville. And
the general there, who was nervous and

679
00:49:42.519 --> 00:49:45.519
was not a very good general,
he had kind of flaked out two or

680
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:50.280
three times before. He said he's
got to have all his troops. He

681
00:49:50.400 --> 00:49:53.320
called Kirby Smith, sent him a
dispatch and said get Heath and bring him

682
00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:55.840
back here. Oh thank god.
Yes, So they said, okay,

683
00:49:55.920 --> 00:50:00.199
let's go down to Louisville. Leave
Cincinnati alone. Got a bigger They didn't

684
00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:04.639
have telegram, telegraph, they didn't
have the Google. They had to send

685
00:50:04.719 --> 00:50:08.159
a person on a horse with a
message to go ninety miles, which might

686
00:50:08.199 --> 00:50:14.119
take a week or two to tell
the general in northern Kentucky you come south

687
00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:16.840
immediately. And he gave up,
and that is what saved they recalled him.

688
00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:23.519
Now Wallace would say that Heath looked
at the huge defenses that he built

689
00:50:23.559 --> 00:50:27.679
and that was it he decided,
because the next morning he didn't have the

690
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:30.360
guts. Well, it's still in
dispute. And there's a great scene at

691
00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:34.960
the end of the book where they
meet each other at the burnout house after

692
00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:37.199
the war, and they hadn't seen
each other since that day when they were

693
00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:44.400
staring each other down over that battlefield, and at that point Cincinnati was saved.

694
00:50:44.400 --> 00:50:47.239
And the rest is history. You
got it, Peter Bronson, The

695
00:50:47.280 --> 00:50:50.840
book is great. I'm taking it
a home. My wife loves reading this

696
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:55.039
stuff as I do. Great photographs
and the man who saved Cincinnati. And

697
00:50:55.079 --> 00:50:59.639
thank god that a messenger got through
from Louisville. Otherwise things would have been

698
00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:02.800
different. We would have been invaded
by Rob Sanders's great friend. Isn't it

699
00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:06.320
fun? The thing about what it
would have looked like if that had happened

700
00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:08.800
never never happened before. President has
never been kept off the ballot. He

701
00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:12.679
got thirty eight percent of the vote. Yeah, and he wins, and

702
00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:15.559
he wins. Peter Bronson, you're
the best of this stuff. Well,

703
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:17.800
thank you. By the way,
people can get that at local bookstores and

704
00:51:17.960 --> 00:51:23.000
on my website for signed copies,
which is chilidog Press dot com chilidog press

705
00:51:23.159 --> 00:51:27.239
dot com. Peter Bronson, I
wish you were still running The Inquirer,

706
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:32.039
do you. I never did.
But anybody who claimed to run that place,

707
00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:36.320
good luck, is not telling the
truth. Peter, Thank you very

708
00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:38.599
much, Thank you all. Let's
continue. Bill Cunningham News Radio seven hundred

709
00:51:38.679 --> 00:51:43.320
WLW. Then the new year is
here, and if you're like many of

710
00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:46.960
us, you're going to make a
resolution to him. Beer brewed here.

711
00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:52.760
It is usual to make the prow
beer in this fire. Ooh Worth Riders,

712
00:51:52.800 --> 00:52:02.800
thanks for the great lakes. I
wonder why oh hello, quiet skos,

713
00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:10.400
I'm broadcasting all right, segment The
inquir has done a story on Joe

714
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:15.480
Burrow. Now what they're great?
Number nine? Yeah? Now, now

715
00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:19.920
what's he hadn't hurt himself? Has
he not yet? Okay? But he

716
00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:22.920
will thank God for that two hundred
and seventy five million dollar deal. But

717
00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:29.920
he bought some property in Anderson Township, really little bungalow, not the Is

718
00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:34.440
that your other Is that your other
house? Cold Stream? He bought seven

719
00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:38.719
point five million, most expensive home
sale and amlin A County in the year

720
00:52:38.760 --> 00:52:45.199
twenty twenty three, and right next
to Dale Donovan, very close to Joe

721
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:49.000
Mixon. Same. I want to
get some kevlar in the windows US these

722
00:52:49.039 --> 00:52:55.840
guys get those usually these guys live
in northern Kentucky right better for Texas.

723
00:52:57.159 --> 00:53:00.880
Soson Township has no earning stone.
They're going to Anderson. What do you

724
00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:04.119
think his tax bill is? I
think he's living writing down down the street

725
00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:07.159
from Kim Scheidler. His tax bill
for a night for twenty twenty four is

726
00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:13.880
fifty seven thousand dollars. Fifty seven
thousand. We got our tech, we

727
00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:17.599
got our property tax yesterday. It's
just a little bit below that. Well,

728
00:53:17.880 --> 00:53:22.400
Joe Burrow, I hope he can
live out his dreams. He just

729
00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:27.320
pulls out the check book and writes
it. He just goes into his couch

730
00:53:27.400 --> 00:53:30.519
cushions and gets to fifty seven thousand
to set here, it's all yours.

731
00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:35.480
See you what would it be?
You? So Joe Burrow is living La

732
00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:39.039
Veda Luca And by the way,
yeah, if Taylor Swift no Jeez,

733
00:53:39.159 --> 00:53:43.960
starts dating Joe Burrow, We're going
to have a story at that point,

734
00:53:44.199 --> 00:53:49.159
that's for sure. I don't think
she's gonna dump Travis the Kay anytime soon,

735
00:53:49.199 --> 00:53:54.880
do you think? And of course
Joe Burrow's custom spa by ACR one

736
00:53:54.960 --> 00:54:01.079
night pulls and spaws. But Joe
Burrows spending fifty seven and property Texas and

737
00:54:01.400 --> 00:54:05.519
we hope he can live out his
dream and be healthy. What's what's the

738
00:54:05.559 --> 00:54:10.599
house cover half Anderson Township out there? Windows my whole career and and everybody

739
00:54:10.599 --> 00:54:15.480
that we have in my locker room, all coaches we have. You know,

740
00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:20.719
things are going to change year to
year, but our windows always open.

741
00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:23.960
Early in his career, Michael Jordan
had a foot problem. Yeah,

742
00:54:24.280 --> 00:54:28.960
I pray to God that whatever it
is, Joe Burrow stays healthy the next

743
00:54:28.960 --> 00:54:31.760
ten years, being goes and lives
out his manifest destiny. It can be

744
00:54:31.880 --> 00:54:36.239
whatever it is, he's going to
take us to the Promised Land. Because

745
00:54:36.280 --> 00:54:40.719
what's his record against Buffalo in Kansas
City? Five and one bingo? He

746
00:54:40.760 --> 00:54:45.159
beats Kansas City in a regular basis, correct, So we need a healthy

747
00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:49.320
Joe Burrow and then marched for glory
and for some the judgment seat of God

748
00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:54.320
and gets over those Lombardi trophies downtown
some how about well this one is start

749
00:54:54.320 --> 00:54:59.239
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When can you legally smoke marijuana in Ohio?

758
00:55:43.800 --> 00:55:45.280
Probably right now? I think you
can. You just can't buy it,

759
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:49.360
but you can smoke. What do
you do? Go to another state

760
00:55:49.400 --> 00:55:52.320
and buy it, or show downtown
and buy it? Yeah? Oh,

761
00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:55.800
mancho man, macho man, I
think I know everything. But you can

762
00:55:55.880 --> 00:56:02.119
legally use it. But you can't
leak sell it. Yeah, Red's update.

763
00:56:02.159 --> 00:56:06.360
Get the latest on those Red Lakes
and baseball tonight on the Hot Stove

764
00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:09.239
League six oh five right here on
seven out a WLW. One of the

765
00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:15.679
special guests will be catcher Tyler Stevenson. College basketball tonight to Miami RedHawks on

766
00:56:15.719 --> 00:56:19.679
the road against ken State Number twenty
one. Dayton will host the Colonials of

767
00:56:19.719 --> 00:56:23.800
George Washington, Iowa and Indiana,
and Illinois takes on Ohio State. I'm

768
00:56:23.800 --> 00:56:28.599
pumped up. Now, get the
latest on NKU basketball tonight on the Coaches

769
00:56:28.639 --> 00:56:32.800
Show, six o'clock on ESPN fifteen
thirty. So the Ohio Senate said okay,

770
00:56:32.840 --> 00:56:37.639
but the Ohio House says navah Minah. The Governor DeWine wants this thing

771
00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:39.320
to get off the ground, thank
you. And I don't know what's going

772
00:56:39.360 --> 00:56:43.119
to happen. Remember, you can
smoke it, you just can't buy it.

773
00:56:43.679 --> 00:56:47.920
Really. Bearcats twenty twenty four football
schedule is out. UC opens against

774
00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:53.679
Townsend on August the thirty first,
and host pitt the next week. The

775
00:56:53.719 --> 00:57:00.639
first road game is at the Miami
RedHawks September fourteenth at Yager Stadium. Opener

776
00:57:00.639 --> 00:57:06.400
at the NIP September twenty first against
Houston. U S will also host Arizona

777
00:57:06.440 --> 00:57:10.039
State for the first time ever the
sun Devils. Also West Virginia comes to

778
00:57:10.119 --> 00:57:20.719
town. Road games include facing Neon
Dion at Colorado October twenty sixth. The

779
00:57:20.760 --> 00:57:24.519
streetcar supposedly was not going to be
impacted by the one point six billion.

780
00:57:24.599 --> 00:57:30.679
Now the advocates, including John Schneider, wants to extend the street on that

781
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:34.639
show, Duke's a Half, that's
a different John show, Okay, differently,

782
00:57:34.679 --> 00:57:37.199
Okay, I want to get a
hold of him, get him back

783
00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:40.719
in. Yeah. He wants more
routes for the streetcar, including Uphill Hill

784
00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:46.199
into Clifton, all around TQL Westernho's
Viaductricy, we went to the streetcar,

785
00:57:46.280 --> 00:57:51.119
which, by the way, costs
how much to operate? Zero zero to

786
00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:54.320
get on And now he wants the
advocates want to use the money and build

787
00:57:54.320 --> 00:57:59.280
street cars instead of public safety.
We need more cops. What about all

788
00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:02.239
that money that's with the railroad deal? What happened? Six billion? Yeah,

789
00:58:02.519 --> 00:58:07.119
where's that going? The eyes of
my buddy's pocket. Yes, and

790
00:58:07.159 --> 00:58:12.199
by the way, Charlie Luken does
not support the Confederacy. Peter Bronson just

791
00:58:12.239 --> 00:58:15.639
said, the mayor of Cincinnati in
the eighteen sixties was not Chazz. No,

792
00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:20.199
okay, he wanted to surrender to
the Confederacy. He gave me.

793
00:58:20.239 --> 00:58:22.599
The guy's name was in the book
right there, Richard Todd. He wanted

794
00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:24.320
to get a big white flag,
go down in the muddy banks to the

795
00:58:24.360 --> 00:58:29.639
Ohio and wave the flag. As
the Confederate army lined up at Fort Mitchell

796
00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:34.039
to besiege Cincinnati, you'd be like
a eight mons COVID. That's it by

797
00:58:34.159 --> 00:58:37.880
Centennial Commons, And all of a
sudden you got a message from a Louisville

798
00:58:37.880 --> 00:58:39.880
general. General, we need you
back here now. It took them two

799
00:58:39.920 --> 00:58:45.199
and a half weeks to march from
Fort Mitchell down to Louisville. Seventy one

800
00:58:45.239 --> 00:58:49.559
didn't exist at that point. Really. They marched through the woods and the

801
00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:51.679
creek. Sure, yeah, it
was tough. I think it was only

802
00:58:51.719 --> 00:58:54.280
open to Sparta. And those guys
were little guys like five six weight about

803
00:58:54.280 --> 00:58:59.599
one hundred and ten pounds. Managine
that mentionine that walk. Oh I got

804
00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:00.880
it. They had to do was
go down the river bank, didn't he

805
00:59:01.679 --> 00:59:05.840
Well, it's more to it than
you think, because you said the river

806
00:59:05.960 --> 00:59:08.800
was only five feet deep. It
was often the high river was no water

807
00:59:10.119 --> 00:59:15.440
because in drought they didn't have dams, so in drought the river dried up.

808
00:59:16.199 --> 00:59:21.199
The average pool stage was five feet
and sometimes there was nothing there.

809
00:59:21.239 --> 00:59:25.280
Imagine what's down there now measuring the
mud and the filth and I miss.

810
00:59:27.360 --> 00:59:31.599
Have you seen the steamboats at the
Serpentine Wall before it was in the mud.

811
00:59:31.840 --> 00:59:35.760
Yeah, dozens of them, probably
a thousand of them down there.

812
00:59:35.840 --> 00:59:38.880
And Cole was in the island Queen. Didn't the island Queen burn down?

813
00:59:39.000 --> 00:59:45.400
Yes, it did down there different
times at Coney Island. Cincinnati was going

814
00:59:45.440 --> 00:59:50.119
to be invaded by the South.
What but there was a general who saved

815
00:59:50.159 --> 00:59:54.760
it all from occurring. General lou
Wallace from Indiana was commissioned here to get

816
00:59:54.760 --> 01:00:00.880
together a band of brothers to defend
Cincinnati against Rob Sanders and Tony Bender.

817
01:00:01.400 --> 01:00:05.360
Wow, how about that? He
didn't know that was going on, did

818
01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:09.000
you? So? So that general
said no, And then what was one

819
01:00:09.000 --> 01:00:15.400
of his lieutenants was John Barrett,
correct Western Southern. And what happened is

820
01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:19.960
we would have lost because they had
nine thousand soldiers of the cannons and we

821
01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:23.400
had squirrel shooters. But they got
a message, get the Louisville immediately,

822
01:00:23.480 --> 01:00:28.960
so he disbanded the nine thousand March
ninety miles to Louisville to help a general

823
01:00:29.000 --> 01:00:32.039
down there. Otherwise Cincinnati would have
been taken over by the Confederacy because the

824
01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:37.360
mayor of Cincinnati was a sympathizer.
He was going to surrender the city.

825
01:00:37.559 --> 01:00:42.079
Then what would have happened to I
don't know. I don't know. This

826
01:00:42.159 --> 01:00:45.880
was eighteen sixty two when the outcome
of the war was very much in doubt.

827
01:00:46.079 --> 01:00:52.480
So we were unfaded by Kentuckians.
Not a slave state. I strike

828
01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:55.079
that from the record. They were
a slave state, but not in the

829
01:00:55.079 --> 01:01:00.760
Confederacy. They wanted to wait to
see who won, so they were like

830
01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:06.039
neutral like Switzerland. Whoever won,
they went that way. So everybody wanted

831
01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:08.719
to go like the Spain and all
out of World War two, everybody wanted

832
01:01:08.760 --> 01:01:13.239
to go to Kentucky during the Civil
War because it was and waited out.

833
01:01:13.320 --> 01:01:16.760
It was a slave The Trumpster was
involved, the Trumps trying to get he

834
01:01:17.239 --> 01:01:22.480
probably gets a blame for that.
Lincoln was kept off ten state ballots so

835
01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:28.079
far. Trump's allegedly off two state
ballots, and everybody get him off the

836
01:01:28.119 --> 01:01:30.119
ballots. I didn't know that.
You told me that off the air,

837
01:01:30.199 --> 01:01:31.840
couldn't. I can't believe that.
And Lincoln got thirty eight percent of the

838
01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:37.599
vote and one that gets you nothing
today today, I think that trumpster can

839
01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:43.159
get forty three percent of the vote. If RFK Junior is the Libertarian candidate,

840
01:01:44.920 --> 01:01:46.960
Trump wins. Well, yeah,
the big game is coming up,

841
01:01:47.000 --> 01:01:52.440
of course, February the eleventh in
Las Vegas. And let's see. Of

842
01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:55.199
course. Uh, mister Travis Kelsey
is on the Chiefs and along with safety

843
01:01:55.239 --> 01:02:00.519
Brian Cook out of meunt Healthy High
School the home of the Owls with Taylor

844
01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:05.519
Swift indoors Joe Biden. I don't
know average ticket price so far. Let

845
01:02:05.559 --> 01:02:13.199
me guess one thousand dollars nine thousand, three hundred dollars EH at Allegiance Stadium.

846
01:02:13.280 --> 01:02:19.679
What twenty five percent of the buyer
so far come from California, San

847
01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:22.639
Francisco and the tech bing go.
Who are you picking the Super Bowl segment?

848
01:02:23.360 --> 01:02:27.119
I went with the Bills. She
is, she is, She gonna

849
01:02:27.119 --> 01:02:30.599
get there in time, that's the
problem. Yes, I watched Jay Ratliffe

850
01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:32.639
helping her out this morning. Jay
Ratliff's gonna get her here. We got

851
01:02:32.679 --> 01:02:38.239
an SR seventy one Blackbird US Air
Force gonna fly her here. I wouldn't

852
01:02:38.239 --> 01:02:42.679
doubt that and get her here in
time for the game about a stealth bomber

853
01:02:42.840 --> 01:02:46.679
and there's a report and she's gonna
pop out of the stage with usher and

854
01:02:46.760 --> 01:02:51.199
do a little bit of ebony and
ivory. That wouldn't that be something I

855
01:02:51.239 --> 01:02:54.199
wouldn't put it past her. If
she endorses Biden, will that sway your

856
01:02:54.320 --> 01:03:00.840
vote? Taylor Swift? No,
you absolutely Whatever she says, I'm going

857
01:03:00.920 --> 01:03:05.159
the opposite, Okay, So please
endorse Biden. What about the Rock?

858
01:03:05.400 --> 01:03:07.000
When we ask him here? It
a little bit. I think he's gonna

859
01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:13.079
go with Ta Ta I mean Dwayne
Johnson. He's the he's the Grand Marshal

860
01:03:13.119 --> 01:03:15.519
of the Daytona five hundred, The
Rock. He's taken over from Vince McMahon,

861
01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:22.000
who's had some difficulties. Slightly goes
into a meeting with nothing but underwear

862
01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:25.400
on. I think that happens around
here. It used to happen around here,

863
01:03:25.480 --> 01:03:30.880
not so much anymore. Correct.
Iheartmedias cracked down on everything, that's

864
01:03:30.920 --> 01:03:35.000
for sure, and I act like
a full member. Randy Michael's jumping on

865
01:03:35.039 --> 01:03:37.840
the desk and pulling his pants down. Oh, we used to. We

866
01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:42.280
used to go around and to restaurants
and have dinners and ended up in a

867
01:03:42.519 --> 01:03:45.360
baked potato fight. Remember those Remember
that. Those are the days that men

868
01:03:45.360 --> 01:03:50.000
were men, harry as men,
harry as men. It was all right

869
01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:52.079
if you got hit one with butter, but now our cream, we're gone.

870
01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:58.400
Corporate. No, we're a corporate
responsible, corporate citizen segment. Yeah,

871
01:03:58.559 --> 01:04:01.440
yeah, I know, Sagan.
About ten minutes we have Rick Hamilton

872
01:04:01.519 --> 01:04:05.960
is here about how to lower your
property taxes legitimately. Are you interested?

873
01:04:06.719 --> 01:04:10.880
Yeah? I got mine yesterday from
Butler County. How bad is it?

874
01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:15.559
What was the increase? Mine was
like twenty five percent. I just looked

875
01:04:15.559 --> 01:04:18.280
at the number and went, what
the denise? Take care of this?

876
01:04:18.719 --> 01:04:25.880
No, that's it. Yeah,
segment. Cincinnati invaded by Rob Sanders's progeny,

877
01:04:26.119 --> 01:04:29.320
and we survived about that. The
city at that point was all built

878
01:04:29.320 --> 01:04:31.559
with wood. So if you launch
a couple of thousand, canon show would

879
01:04:31.559 --> 01:04:34.199
have been it would have been in. That's why he would have been like

880
01:04:34.239 --> 01:04:39.239
the Chicago fire. Here, Peter
Bronson said, the mayor of Cincinnati wanted

881
01:04:39.280 --> 01:04:44.960
to surrender, and I'm like,
well, thank god. The Louisville Confederate

882
01:04:45.039 --> 01:04:47.360
General said, hey, come on
back here, we need you correct otherwise

883
01:04:48.239 --> 01:04:51.599
who knows what would have happened?
Not good, no segment. Get me

884
01:04:51.639 --> 01:04:57.360
out of the Stude's report. Please
William and Hounter of the Rids today namee

885
01:04:57.440 --> 01:05:01.480
a senior director immediate relations, the
one and only mister Westside himself, Larry

886
01:05:01.559 --> 01:05:05.559
Hearmes. What taking over for the
great Rob Butcher? What happened to Rob

887
01:05:05.599 --> 01:05:10.800
Butcher? He's retiring? Really he's
too young to retire. Thank you?

888
01:05:10.880 --> 01:05:15.360
Why don't you and I retire?
You want this place to go to you

889
01:05:15.480 --> 01:05:18.960
nowhere and at some point it will. Anyway, we leave you with the

890
01:05:19.000 --> 01:05:25.519
immortal words of the stood report.
A little after midnight, someone will put

891
01:05:25.519 --> 01:05:29.719
a new cross on Fountain Square.
This one stands eight feet tall. It

892
01:05:29.840 --> 01:05:31.800
is made out of two four x
four is bolted together, standing on a

893
01:05:31.840 --> 01:05:35.800
platform of four four x eights.
This one is unpainted, but like the

894
01:05:35.840 --> 01:05:41.559
other cross has a quote from the
Bible verse John three point sixteen. A

895
01:05:41.599 --> 01:05:44.840
couple of police officers are on the
square. I am on the square.

896
01:05:45.360 --> 01:05:47.920
No one else is on the square, not surprising with win Chilson the single

897
01:05:47.960 --> 01:05:55.760
digits in downtown Cincinnati, Richard Todd
News Radio doesn't no one's there to protest

898
01:05:55.800 --> 01:05:59.920
anything. It's too cold and I'm
there. But Cincinnati had confeders of Richard

899
01:06:00.119 --> 01:06:04.360
is the best sympathizers going back to
eighteen sixty two, and there was a

900
01:06:04.360 --> 01:06:10.000
protest on the square, but nobody
showed up. Jeez. Coming up next

901
01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:14.039
to is Rick Hamilton. How to
lower your property tax bill A news radio

902
01:06:14.079 --> 01:06:20.800
seven hundred WLW breathe easier in your
home in twenty twenty four with Zeros air

903
01:06:20.880 --> 01:06:25.480
duct cleaning. It's the only company
afternoon every morning in front of me an

904
01:06:25.480 --> 01:06:28.960
hour, three or four TV monitors
with all the news. In the last

905
01:06:28.960 --> 01:06:31.880
few days, lot's been discussed about
the Hamilton County. In fact, every

906
01:06:31.880 --> 01:06:38.280
county in the Great state of Ohio
have had their real estate or reappraised skyrocketing

907
01:06:38.360 --> 01:06:42.840
numbers are all over the place,
and some homeowners have sent me email saying,

908
01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:45.039
you know what, I have to
leave my home in Coleraine Township.

909
01:06:45.079 --> 01:06:48.639
I can't afford the taxes anymore.
Had another guy he got a hold of

910
01:06:48.639 --> 01:06:53.480
me from Montford Heights saying that he
bought a house out of foreclosure for his

911
01:06:53.559 --> 01:06:57.239
son to live in and it's doubled
or tripled over the past seven or eight

912
01:06:57.320 --> 01:07:00.519
years, and he can't take it
anymore, can't afford to live here.

913
01:07:00.480 --> 01:07:04.039
Is there a way out? And
the answer is yes. Now one thing

914
01:07:04.079 --> 01:07:09.280
to think about before I put Rick
Hamilton on from Appraisals first, and this

915
01:07:09.280 --> 01:07:12.400
guy's an expert of this kind of
stuff. When you vote for levees,

916
01:07:13.039 --> 01:07:16.000
which we do in Hamley County almost
every time, the vote is overwhelming for

917
01:07:16.079 --> 01:07:23.280
the zoo levee or the Museum center
levee, or the Developmental Disability services levy

918
01:07:23.760 --> 01:07:28.199
or the Family Services and Treatment levy, or the enigent care levee, or

919
01:07:28.239 --> 01:07:33.760
the Children's services levee or the mental
health levee or the senior services levee or

920
01:07:34.440 --> 01:07:40.559
all the increase in property taxes for
schools. All this goes in your tax

921
01:07:40.559 --> 01:07:45.639
bill. And this seems like the
last few months this has metastasized and that

922
01:07:45.719 --> 01:07:49.920
people are getting shocking bills. But
there is a way out and Rick Hamilton

923
01:07:50.000 --> 01:07:53.960
is here from Appraisals first to talk
about it. And first of all,

924
01:07:54.079 --> 01:07:57.400
Rick Hamilton, welcome, I think
for the first time to the Bill Cunningham

925
01:07:57.440 --> 01:08:01.800
Show. And as appraiser for some
twenty years. If you're a homeowner anywhere

926
01:08:01.800 --> 01:08:05.440
in the state of Ohio and you
have you receive one of these huge bills.

927
01:08:05.760 --> 01:08:11.039
Property taxes aren't do in Hamilton County
for about another week. Explain the

928
01:08:11.079 --> 01:08:15.360
process of what you can do if
you object to what the Hamlin Accounted Auditor

929
01:08:15.400 --> 01:08:17.600
says is the value of your home. What can a homeowner do? Rick

930
01:08:17.680 --> 01:08:25.680
Hamilton, Sure, thanks Bill for
having me on today. There's like a

931
01:08:25.720 --> 01:08:29.359
three step process with the border of
visions that you'll want to do. The

932
01:08:29.399 --> 01:08:32.560
first thing that you want to do
is speak with the real estate professional about

933
01:08:32.600 --> 01:08:38.119
comparable sales in your neighborhood. The
values are based off of sales data in

934
01:08:38.199 --> 01:08:42.439
your neighborhood. And an important note
on that is the effective date that we're

935
01:08:42.479 --> 01:08:46.520
looking at here is January first of
twenty twenty three, So the best comps

936
01:08:46.560 --> 01:08:50.279
to use are sales from the end
of twenty twenty two, So just keep

937
01:08:50.319 --> 01:08:53.640
that in mind. We're not really
looking at today's value of the house.

938
01:08:53.880 --> 01:08:58.720
We're looking at a retrospective date of
January first and twenty three. So almost

939
01:08:58.760 --> 01:09:01.239
all of us have received these increases, and so if you want to contest

940
01:09:01.319 --> 01:09:04.840
us, what you have the right
to do you're talking about the value of

941
01:09:04.880 --> 01:09:10.520
your home more than a year ago
on one one twenty three, so you

942
01:09:10.760 --> 01:09:15.039
have to sequester maybe the last six
months for the last year of twenty twenty

943
01:09:15.039 --> 01:09:18.159
two. Correct, that's right,
that's the best way to do that.

944
01:09:18.600 --> 01:09:21.239
And then if you go from there
and you do feel that your property is

945
01:09:21.279 --> 01:09:25.760
ever valued, and when you're doing
that comparable sales search, you want to

946
01:09:25.760 --> 01:09:30.279
speak with a realtor obviously in appraisers
coming in handy there as well, or

947
01:09:30.399 --> 01:09:31.960
just do maybe some research on your
own to see what's sold, if you

948
01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:35.319
keep up with what's going on in
your neighborhood. And then if you feel

949
01:09:35.399 --> 01:09:40.520
that property is overvalued, then you're
going to need to collect some evidence to

950
01:09:40.560 --> 01:09:43.640
state your case. The best thing
to do, obviously is have a real

951
01:09:43.760 --> 01:09:46.199
estate appraisal done, and that's something
that someone like myself can help with.

952
01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:50.920
There's a couple other things that you
can do. If you've got documentation,

953
01:09:51.119 --> 01:09:56.239
say you've sold or you bought your
house in the last three years and you've

954
01:09:56.239 --> 01:09:59.840
got that contract from that, you
can use that. If you've got some

955
01:10:00.079 --> 01:10:02.920
hosts from some repairs that are needed
on your house, you can use those

956
01:10:02.960 --> 01:10:06.600
as well to show that your property's
got some deferred maintenance and you need to

957
01:10:06.640 --> 01:10:12.239
lower the value because of that.
And then you know, obviously, like

958
01:10:12.239 --> 01:10:14.880
I said, if you have an
appraisal done on the house, then you'll

959
01:10:14.920 --> 01:10:18.760
submit that with your form. If
you go to the Hamilton County Auditor's website,

960
01:10:18.880 --> 01:10:23.279
you click on the Border Revision,
you'll find the necessary forms that you

961
01:10:23.319 --> 01:10:25.640
need. I think it's like two
pages, so it's not too terrible.

962
01:10:26.279 --> 01:10:30.760
And you'll submit that complaint and then
all of your evidence to the Border Revisions

963
01:10:30.840 --> 01:10:33.520
by March thirty first, And that's
an important date. You can't email this,

964
01:10:33.720 --> 01:10:36.800
You've got to send it in via
mail by March thirty first. All

965
01:10:36.880 --> 01:10:41.439
right, Now, many many years
ago, I represented somebody who wanted to

966
01:10:41.479 --> 01:10:45.880
go to the Border Revision and I
anticipated it would be somewhat of a formal

967
01:10:45.960 --> 01:10:49.199
proceeding. I discovered that the form
at that point was one page. We

968
01:10:49.239 --> 01:10:54.560
had a real estate appraiser such as
yourself, to actually do the appraisal.

969
01:10:54.600 --> 01:10:58.119
It's always better to show up with
evidence. If you simply show up in

970
01:10:58.159 --> 01:11:01.520
the front of the three person Border
revision and to start talking, that's interesting,

971
01:11:01.800 --> 01:11:05.199
but you need evidence, and so
to have an appraiser done to have

972
01:11:05.199 --> 01:11:10.119
an appraisal done, and then secondly
to come in saying, well, these

973
01:11:10.119 --> 01:11:13.640
are pictures of the work needing to
be done. And I found the three

974
01:11:13.640 --> 01:11:19.359
individuals sitting there are very happy to
lower the amount of the appraisal if very

975
01:11:19.439 --> 01:11:24.960
happy to do so because they kind
of want to, They kind of want

976
01:11:24.960 --> 01:11:29.439
to middle the thing almost. But
if you show up without an appraisal done

977
01:11:29.479 --> 01:11:32.560
on your home, and show up
without pictures as to the work needing to

978
01:11:32.560 --> 01:11:38.640
be done, you're less likely to
win the appeal. Correct, Yeah,

979
01:11:38.640 --> 01:11:41.800
that's correct. Yeah. You want
as much evidence as you can muster up

980
01:11:42.399 --> 01:11:46.680
for your for your appeal, and
then that process, that hearing process.

981
01:11:47.279 --> 01:11:50.880
Obviously this year is going to be
somewhat unique, but based on the sheer

982
01:11:50.920 --> 01:11:54.760
volume of calls that we've been getting
so far, you know, I anticipate

983
01:11:54.800 --> 01:11:58.439
they're getting a lot of calls from
a lot of homeowners. But generally,

984
01:11:58.439 --> 01:12:01.600
in the past, the hearings take
place, you know s they made August.

985
01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:06.439
Generally in that period they require a
fifteen minute hearing if you go down

986
01:12:06.479 --> 01:12:12.560
to the border revisions. But there's
some cases where they may agree and this

987
01:12:12.600 --> 01:12:15.039
is where probably a real estate appraisl
will help you the most. If you

988
01:12:15.039 --> 01:12:18.560
submit all of your documentation with a
real estate appraisal and they agree, then

989
01:12:18.600 --> 01:12:23.279
they do what's called an expedited hearing. They just agree with the value and

990
01:12:23.319 --> 01:12:26.600
there's no need to come down to
the border visions at all. And so

991
01:12:26.640 --> 01:12:30.760
sometimes this is done informally in which
they say, okay, you win and

992
01:12:30.800 --> 01:12:32.479
we'll lower it. And if it
doesn't happen, what happens at the hearing

993
01:12:32.520 --> 01:12:35.960
itself. I've not been down there
for like twelve to fifteen years. So

994
01:12:36.039 --> 01:12:40.880
what happens You come in, You
have a good appraisal from a company like

995
01:12:40.920 --> 01:12:44.560
yours. You've got a couple of
pictures saying, well my house. Nobody

996
01:12:44.560 --> 01:12:47.439
from the auditor's office actually went through
your home. No one walked into your

997
01:12:47.479 --> 01:12:53.520
house and took pictures. They simply
from ten thousand feet looked down and they

998
01:12:53.560 --> 01:12:59.279
simply gave values based upon sales.
What happens actually at the border revision hearing.

999
01:12:59.439 --> 01:13:01.720
You're a home owner, you're living
Springfield, you live in Columbus,

1000
01:13:01.760 --> 01:13:04.720
you live in Adams and Hamlet a
county. You go down. What happens

1001
01:13:04.760 --> 01:13:09.119
at the hearing? You walk in, and first of all, do you

1002
01:13:09.119 --> 01:13:12.199
need an attorney? Because Chris Finny's
a good friend of mine. He does

1003
01:13:12.239 --> 01:13:15.119
some of this work too. But
I found out not having an attorney is

1004
01:13:15.199 --> 01:13:17.880
not a problem in this case if
you have a good appraiser. Is that

1005
01:13:17.920 --> 01:13:24.199
correct? Yeah, that's correct.
I'd say the overwhelming majority of homeowners,

1006
01:13:24.199 --> 01:13:27.239
just residential homeowners, can go down
and do all of this on their own

1007
01:13:27.279 --> 01:13:30.800
without an attorney. If you have
a commercial property, you definitely want to

1008
01:13:30.800 --> 01:13:33.840
get an attorney. It's a whole
different animal there. If you have a

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01:13:33.880 --> 01:13:39.600
complex residential property of say there's something
really unique about the property, or the

1010
01:13:39.680 --> 01:13:45.000
value is significantly off. I'm talking
hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not

1011
01:13:45.039 --> 01:13:48.680
a million dollars off, that's probably
worth getting an attorney. And lastly,

1012
01:13:48.680 --> 01:13:53.600
if you just want some representation down
there, because it's important to note that

1013
01:13:54.199 --> 01:13:57.319
as a real estate appraiser, if
I go down there with you, I

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01:13:57.359 --> 01:14:00.479
can only defend my real estate appraisal. You get asked questions about my appraisal,

1015
01:14:00.479 --> 01:14:03.279
and I can defend my appraisal.
I can't be an advocate for you

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01:14:03.319 --> 01:14:05.960
in any way. So if you
feel like you need an advocate, you

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01:14:06.000 --> 01:14:10.439
need representation, then by all means
you you'd want to get an attorney.

1018
01:14:10.680 --> 01:14:13.560
But as far as the hearing is
concerned, yeah, you're going down in

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01:14:13.560 --> 01:14:15.000
front of the board, which I
believe is you know, the auditor a,

1020
01:14:15.000 --> 01:14:19.079
Lisha Reese and Jill Schiller, the
three member board there and they have

1021
01:14:19.159 --> 01:14:24.079
a team of staff appraisers that look
over appraisals and if they have any questions

1022
01:14:24.079 --> 01:14:26.640
about av A bad then all that
would come up there, or any questions

1023
01:14:26.680 --> 01:14:30.920
about the evidence that you submitted,
that would come up there. And then,

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01:14:30.960 --> 01:14:32.159
like I said, you were generally
in an out in fifteen minutes.

1025
01:14:32.399 --> 01:14:39.399
And as I recall it, doesn't
the homeowner normally win very rarely do they

1026
01:14:39.560 --> 01:14:41.600
don't. They try to middle the
thing and say, okay, you got

1027
01:14:41.640 --> 01:14:45.560
a good appraiser here from Rick Hamilton
of Appraisals. First you got this.

1028
01:14:45.159 --> 01:14:48.560
We didn't walk through the house.
We eyeballed it from ten thousand feet.

1029
01:14:48.920 --> 01:14:55.600
If you have a good appraiser,
doesn't the homeowner normally win something? Yeah,

1030
01:14:55.800 --> 01:14:58.520
that's a good question. We have
never been able to find any like

1031
01:14:58.520 --> 01:15:01.760
statistics to show of all the cases
that they see how many they win and

1032
01:15:01.800 --> 01:15:04.520
how many they lose. So I
couldn't give you any hard numbers on that,

1033
01:15:05.119 --> 01:15:08.720
but generally speaking, when people are
looking into this and you're going to

1034
01:15:08.760 --> 01:15:11.680
the extent of having an appraisal done, then you've probably got a good case.

1035
01:15:11.680 --> 01:15:14.279
And I think your odds of winning
are pretty high. And it's a

1036
01:15:14.319 --> 01:15:16.720
fifteen minute. Many people are simply
intimidated, saying, well, I don't

1037
01:15:16.760 --> 01:15:19.520
want to go down. I guess
it's in the todd Portoon building now right,

1038
01:15:19.600 --> 01:15:23.520
it's a cross street from the coreouse. And if you just spend a

1039
01:15:23.560 --> 01:15:27.479
little bit of time and that if
they save you money, which normally happens,

1040
01:15:27.640 --> 01:15:30.840
you get that for the next three
years every year. Correct. That's

1041
01:15:30.880 --> 01:15:34.079
correct. And in Hamilton County's case, you can actually go to the auditor's

1042
01:15:34.119 --> 01:15:39.119
website and there's a calculator on there. If you go into the text area,

1043
01:15:39.159 --> 01:15:42.000
there's a calculator on there that you
can put in, you know,

1044
01:15:42.119 --> 01:15:45.239
if my taxes were to be lowered
to this amount, and you'll see what

1045
01:15:45.319 --> 01:15:48.439
those savings are. I mean,
the reality bill is everyone we've had a

1046
01:15:48.800 --> 01:15:53.399
three years of very extreme appreciation in
the real estate market, so everyone can

1047
01:15:53.439 --> 01:15:56.680
expect an increase, like not going
to get away from that, but a

1048
01:15:56.680 --> 01:15:59.439
lot of those increases could be too
high, you know, like you mentioned

1049
01:15:59.479 --> 01:16:02.319
earlier. This is a big algorithm
that the auditors plug in. They don't

1050
01:16:02.319 --> 01:16:06.079
go visit four hundred thousand properties individually, so they're plugging all this in.

1051
01:16:06.119 --> 01:16:11.119
They're spinning some numbers out, and
sometimes those numbers are off. But you

1052
01:16:11.119 --> 01:16:14.119
can go use that calculator to see
what those savings are and then you can

1053
01:16:14.199 --> 01:16:16.560
determine. You know, hey,
if my house is three hundred versus three

1054
01:16:16.680 --> 01:16:19.439
fifty, and I'm going to save
that over a three year period, then

1055
01:16:19.479 --> 01:16:23.239
it makes to go that it makes
sense to go spend a couple hundred bucks

1056
01:16:23.239 --> 01:16:26.760
on on appraisal. And it's fair
to say that the appraisal done by the

1057
01:16:26.800 --> 01:16:32.880
auditor's office is not as particular and
detailed as your appraisal would be. That's

1058
01:16:32.920 --> 01:16:38.560
correct. Yeah, we go into
adjustments for condition and quality and all those

1059
01:16:38.600 --> 01:16:41.560
things that the auditor just wouldn't know
because they didn't come through your house.

1060
01:16:41.840 --> 01:16:45.680
So you would encourage homeowner if you
think the real estate taxes, you can't

1061
01:16:45.680 --> 01:16:49.159
complain that I can't afford to pay
it. The issue is what is the

1062
01:16:49.199 --> 01:16:54.600
market value of your home as of
one one twenty three, And that's the

1063
01:16:54.640 --> 01:16:58.159
only issue. It's a nuts and
bolts it's not like being fair. I'm

1064
01:16:58.159 --> 01:17:01.359
sorry your your husband died or or
some other event took place, I had

1065
01:17:01.359 --> 01:17:04.840
to file bankruptcy. This is about
the value of your home on one one

1066
01:17:04.960 --> 01:17:09.920
twenty three. It's a nuts and
bolts thing, and a good appraiser will

1067
01:17:09.960 --> 01:17:14.399
trump what the auditor has done because
they've not gone through the home of the

1068
01:17:14.399 --> 01:17:17.560
homeowner. They've not done a detailed
appraiser appraisal. Is that fair to say?

1069
01:17:19.119 --> 01:17:23.880
Yeah, that's correct. And one
of the biggest misconceptions is someone may

1070
01:17:23.920 --> 01:17:28.439
look at what their neighbors assessed value
is then try to make that argument,

1071
01:17:28.520 --> 01:17:31.039
well, hey, John lives next
door to me is assessed lower than mine.

1072
01:17:31.279 --> 01:17:34.920
The Border Visions won't take that argument. They're like you said, they're

1073
01:17:34.960 --> 01:17:40.520
looking at the actual values from comparable
sales that have sold, not what someone

1074
01:17:40.560 --> 01:17:45.520
else's assessed value is. Now what
role Hamilton County has more special levies than

1075
01:17:45.520 --> 01:17:49.199
any other county maybe in the world. I'm looking at the list here,

1076
01:17:49.680 --> 01:17:56.640
the Zoo Levee, the Museum Center
Levee, the Developmental Disability Services Levee,

1077
01:17:56.960 --> 01:18:02.600
the Family Services and Treatment Levee and
Care Levee, the Children's Services Levee,

1078
01:18:02.960 --> 01:18:09.199
the Mental health care levee, of
course, the library levee, the Senior

1079
01:18:09.319 --> 01:18:13.880
services levee, and all the schools. Uh, you do work all over

1080
01:18:13.920 --> 01:18:17.239
Ohio. Does Hamilton County have more
of these voted special levees than any other

1081
01:18:17.279 --> 01:18:21.880
county? Well? Yeah, I
feel like everybody's got a lot of taxes.

1082
01:18:23.840 --> 01:18:27.239
I don't know the answer to that
specifically if, but it certainly feels

1083
01:18:27.239 --> 01:18:31.359
that way, and some of the
more populated urban counties that have an urban

1084
01:18:31.640 --> 01:18:35.720
city center, it does appear that
way. But but yeah, it's also

1085
01:18:35.760 --> 01:18:42.000
important to note that if your appeal
is more than fifty thousand dollars difference,

1086
01:18:42.520 --> 01:18:46.000
then the school, the local school
district can appeal your appeal. And that's

1087
01:18:46.079 --> 01:18:50.520
another situation where you would want to
get an attorney involved. That's very rare

1088
01:18:50.560 --> 01:18:55.640
on the residential side. That happens
more commercially because you know, in those

1089
01:18:55.720 --> 01:19:00.279
instances you're talking about possibly hundreds of
thousands of dollars, but it's pretty but

1090
01:19:00.600 --> 01:19:02.760
they do have that option. The
school board can or the school the district

1091
01:19:02.800 --> 01:19:06.279
can get involved if your appeal is
more than a fifty thousand dollars difference.

1092
01:19:06.439 --> 01:19:09.680
And you've been doing this for about
twenty years, you know, where the

1093
01:19:09.680 --> 01:19:14.520
bodies are buried all over Hambleton County. And I would encourage people that are

1094
01:19:14.600 --> 01:19:19.000
unhappy with their property tax bill,
don't curse the darkness. Go light a

1095
01:19:19.039 --> 01:19:23.880
candle. It is not a big
deal to go through the Board of Revision.

1096
01:19:23.960 --> 01:19:28.039
Is that fair to say? It's
rather informal, that's fair to say.

1097
01:19:28.039 --> 01:19:30.800
And I would just encourage your listeners
to just give me a call five

1098
01:19:30.840 --> 01:19:34.439
one three, six nine eight eight
zero seven zero, and you can just

1099
01:19:34.439 --> 01:19:39.039
ask me questions about your specific situation. If it's not something I can help

1100
01:19:39.079 --> 01:19:41.680
you with, I'll point you in
the right direction. But glad to help.

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01:19:42.079 --> 01:19:47.640
That's five one, three, six
nine eight eighty seventy appraisals First,

1102
01:19:47.760 --> 01:19:51.600
Rick Hamilton and Rick, thanks for
coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. When

1103
01:19:51.680 --> 01:19:55.680
we do this every three to four
years, people are just shocked. But

1104
01:19:55.800 --> 01:19:59.079
in reality, it's the market value
of your home as of one one twenty

1105
01:19:59.119 --> 01:20:01.880
three and and having gone through it
once or twice as an attorney, it's

1106
01:20:01.960 --> 01:20:06.279
rather informal and each time we kind
of may use the term one the case

1107
01:20:06.319 --> 01:20:10.239
they knocked it down a little bit. But you have to have a legitimate

1108
01:20:10.520 --> 01:20:14.760
appraisal done in your hand and saying
this is what's wrong, and guys like

1109
01:20:14.840 --> 01:20:17.560
you can get it done. Rick
Hamilton of Appraisals First, thank you for

1110
01:20:17.640 --> 01:20:21.600
coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
We'll do it again in about three years.

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01:20:23.159 --> 01:20:25.800
All right, Thanks Bill and God
bless America. Thank you very much.

1112
01:20:25.840 --> 01:20:29.640
All right, let's continue and when
you vote all these levies. I'm

1113
01:20:29.680 --> 01:20:33.520
looking at the list enagen Care Levy
funds, University of Cincinnati Medical Center,

1114
01:20:33.960 --> 01:20:40.399
Cincinnati Children's Hospital, Hamny County Sheriff, Inmate Medical, Hamilton County Juvenile Court,

1115
01:20:40.439 --> 01:20:44.920
Inmate Medical, Mental Health and Recovery
Services Board, the Hamony County Public

1116
01:20:44.920 --> 01:20:48.439
Health, the Central Clinic, the
Saint Vincent de Paul Charitable Pharmacy, Strategies

1117
01:20:48.479 --> 01:20:54.000
to End Homelessness, Hamilton County Probate
Court, Civil Commitment Process, Hamilty County

1118
01:20:54.079 --> 01:20:58.840
Job and Family Services, Hamilty County
Mental Health and Recovery Services, the Library

1119
01:20:58.960 --> 01:21:02.760
Levee, the Council Aging of Southwestern
Ohio, Hamilton County Job and Family Services,

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01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:08.720
Adult Protective Services, Hamly County Veteran
Services, Utterly Veteran Assistance, in

1121
01:21:08.760 --> 01:21:14.479
addition to the Talbot House Prevention First
Cincinnati Union Bethel, Hamony County Developmental Disabilities

1122
01:21:14.640 --> 01:21:16.640
since II Museum Center, the Zoo, and the Bananaco Gardens and more.

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01:21:17.079 --> 01:21:21.680
We vote for more of these levees
constantly. They never fail than any county

1124
01:21:21.720 --> 01:21:27.159
within the sound of my voice.
And so this is the consequence of increasing

1125
01:21:27.199 --> 01:21:31.199
your property taxes that Warren County and
Claremont County much less. Northern Kentucky and

1126
01:21:31.279 --> 01:21:34.479
southeastern Indiana doesn't have to deal with
because we pay for all of this.

1127
01:21:34.840 --> 01:21:38.439
So the next time you vote for
one of these levees, think about your

1128
01:21:38.439 --> 01:21:43.880
property tax bill. So let's continue
with more. But I would encourage you

1129
01:21:43.920 --> 01:21:48.119
to go to Hamlety County Auditor's website, it's called the Board of Revision and

1130
01:21:48.279 --> 01:21:51.680
download the two page form, fill
it out, and then you're going to

1131
01:21:51.720 --> 01:21:58.079
get a hearing date sometime between May
and August and several weeks and then go

1132
01:21:58.119 --> 01:22:03.520
into the that informal proceeding uh with
someone like Rick Hamilton six nine eight eighty

1133
01:22:03.560 --> 01:22:09.800
seventy with a good appraisal, and
you there's no guarantees in life, but

1134
01:22:10.039 --> 01:22:14.319
the hearings that I watched, every
time the homeowner went in they won something.

1135
01:22:14.960 --> 01:22:17.439
So don't curse the darkness. Light
a candle, download the form,

1136
01:22:17.479 --> 01:22:20.720
get a good appraisal, and away
you go. Let's continue with more.

1137
01:22:21.680 --> 01:22:29.439
Bill Cunningham seven hundred WLW, especially
time to SCons I listen at work because

1138
01:22:29.439 --> 01:22:34.119
he's really doing my job. Sucks. Oh, I like Steers. This

1139
01:22:34.439 --> 01:22:41.039
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1140
01:22:41.279 --> 01:22:45.279
It's impossible to recount wlw's first sixty
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1141
01:22:45.399 --> 01:22:50.039
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1142
01:22:50.399 --> 01:22:55.840
Broadcast leadership in Cincinnati news weather,
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1143
01:22:55.880 --> 01:22:59.520
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1144
01:22:59.560 --> 01:23:02.359
from ten, to Bill Gable in
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1145
01:23:02.399 --> 01:23:06.479
at night, and more. What
you need when you need it. We're

1146
01:23:06.600 --> 01:23:23.640
Cincinnati Radio, seven hundred l W. Hello quiet, I'm I'm broadcasting many

1147
01:23:23.680 --> 01:23:27.800
issues Rock so little time. Fire
Away Number one. Peter Pan is going

1148
01:23:27.840 --> 01:23:31.199
to be resurrected on Broadway. But
there's a problem with the depiction of Native

1149
01:23:31.199 --> 01:23:35.319
Americans. According to a character.
You know Peter Pan very well, of

1150
01:23:35.399 --> 01:23:39.760
course, was that tinker Bell?
Was that the deal oxy white Mail?

1151
01:23:40.479 --> 01:23:44.640
It was very hurtful to watch Peter
fan. Native people are the ones who

1152
01:23:44.640 --> 01:23:48.159
can't seem to master English. There's
an assumption that we exist for white men

1153
01:23:48.199 --> 01:23:53.600
to kill, rape and hunt,
to see our reality put out there.

1154
01:23:53.600 --> 01:23:57.880
And something funny is silly, difficult
and painful. So they're going to remake

1155
01:23:57.920 --> 01:24:02.560
the characters of Peter Pan. This
is for a Broadway Playway. If they're

1156
01:24:02.560 --> 01:24:08.439
not learning anything from Disney. He's
remaking these movies and they absolutely bomb.

1157
01:24:09.319 --> 01:24:12.640
They lose money, hand over fists. So they're gonna do the same thing

1158
01:24:12.680 --> 01:24:15.720
here to appease like the five people
in the world that are offended by this,

1159
01:24:16.279 --> 01:24:18.720
and it's gonna lose a ton of
money, So I say do it.

1160
01:24:19.119 --> 01:24:24.560
Peter. Peter Pan, according to
fast Horse, promotes a rape culture.

1161
01:24:25.279 --> 01:24:28.039
Of course, Peter Pan. He's
a guy in a green suit with

1162
01:24:28.079 --> 01:24:32.680
a hat on and it flies around
like an androgynoust male. Is he you

1163
01:24:32.680 --> 01:24:35.279
know what I mean? Like I
don't know. He's not like a like

1164
01:24:35.319 --> 01:24:39.960
a tough guy male like a I
don't runs around on a leotard. I

1165
01:24:40.000 --> 01:24:45.199
can't wait to go see this me
neither. He's a little green guy in

1166
01:24:45.239 --> 01:24:47.359
a leotard. You buy him your
flying you the guy with the wand and

1167
01:24:47.439 --> 01:24:51.560
touches somebody and see, this is
what happens when there's not like actual real

1168
01:24:51.680 --> 01:24:56.239
problems. Correct, we invent problems, got to find mythical races. Why

1169
01:24:56.279 --> 01:24:59.560
you should want a life that's hard. You want to have challenges in life,

1170
01:24:59.560 --> 01:25:02.159
because if you don't, you sit
around and worry about are there really

1171
01:25:02.199 --> 01:25:05.640
only two genders or is there more
like ten? I haven't need to have

1172
01:25:05.640 --> 01:25:10.720
a challenge. You need hardships in
life. Don't run from hardships, accept

1173
01:25:10.720 --> 01:25:14.560
them and endure them. Well,
this guy, this for us, is

1174
01:25:14.560 --> 01:25:19.600
angry. Now what about Peter Bronson
coming Queer Bronson on like two months ago?

1175
01:25:19.680 --> 01:25:24.399
I know, but I'm about halfway
through that book. It's really really

1176
01:25:24.439 --> 01:25:28.159
good. Cincinnati, we had a
mayor that was in favor of the Confederates.

1177
01:25:28.319 --> 01:25:31.960
He was going to surrender Cincinnati,
the Covington and he was going to

1178
01:25:32.000 --> 01:25:35.720
surrender, take the flag down there
and wave it around saying we stopped.

1179
01:25:35.880 --> 01:25:40.359
Don't bomb that, don't don't can, we don't want that. Thank God.

1180
01:25:40.399 --> 01:25:43.600
That General Louisville, a Confederate,
said I need you guys down here,

1181
01:25:43.600 --> 01:25:46.119
and he marched down to Louisville and
saved Cincinnati. How about that one?

1182
01:25:47.439 --> 01:25:51.239
Amazing and the high river was five
feet deep or less because there was

1183
01:25:51.279 --> 01:25:56.000
no damn, so you could walk
across. So they put pontoon boats ready

1184
01:25:56.000 --> 01:25:58.920
to invade. They were going to
go, but then he got the message

1185
01:25:58.920 --> 01:26:02.319
from a rider Louisville saying the Confederate
general there marched down there, and he

1186
01:26:02.439 --> 01:26:08.319
left it, picked up his cannons
and marched ninety miles away down I seventy

1187
01:26:08.359 --> 01:26:15.239
one got there two weeks later.
Now, thirdly, what about the Confederates

1188
01:26:15.680 --> 01:26:17.520
book right here? Is that pretty
good? I just got through the part

1189
01:26:17.560 --> 01:26:21.680
we're on on Shiloh in the Civil
War really detailed. Is that the guy

1190
01:26:21.720 --> 01:26:25.560
that has arm shot off or something? Well, there's yeah, a lot

1191
01:26:25.600 --> 01:26:29.479
of guys head there were tough.
They were tough, like I said,

1192
01:26:30.159 --> 01:26:33.039
they weren't worried about it, like
you pan was a toxic mail or not,

1193
01:26:33.079 --> 01:26:36.960
because you're actually getting cannonballs and fifty
caliber mini balls shot at you right

1194
01:26:38.039 --> 01:26:42.039
now now, crushing your femur.
Now number three, come on, number

1195
01:26:42.039 --> 01:26:46.600
three. The Confederate flag and Harrison
got toilets. Now it's got toilet pass.

1196
01:26:47.399 --> 01:26:51.239
There's rumors you put the toilet around
the flag. I don't applaud the

1197
01:26:51.279 --> 01:26:56.600
flag with the toilets with the ones
on her pretty good council, pretty good,

1198
01:26:56.680 --> 01:27:00.800
Doug Abrams, Rey akra, Yeah, the one the expression mouse selling

1199
01:27:00.800 --> 01:27:02.439
out, Harrison selling out Harrison,
I thy good money. I think it's

1200
01:27:04.119 --> 01:27:08.319
isn't it art? I don't know? Is that a rape culture? By

1201
01:27:08.399 --> 01:27:11.319
the way, you're promoting with Peter
Pan, Taker Bell? Of course,

1202
01:27:11.359 --> 01:27:15.159
Tiger Bell? What do you think? Yeah? But I read this Who's

1203
01:27:15.199 --> 01:27:18.720
next? The Mickey Mouse? Peter
Pan, Who's next? Bugs Bunny?

1204
01:27:18.800 --> 01:27:23.079
I like Almer Fudd, I like
Coyote, I like that guy. I

1205
01:27:23.239 --> 01:27:28.000
like the road another top road runner, toxic male killing people, white supremacy.

1206
01:27:28.399 --> 01:27:30.279
I can't wait to go see this
play, can you? You wouldn't

1207
01:27:30.319 --> 01:27:33.720
catch me there to dead? I
can't wait. And again there will no

1208
01:27:33.760 --> 01:27:40.600
one will see this in New York. No one will. There's Peter Pan,

1209
01:27:40.720 --> 01:27:42.920
and we want to present. Now
look at that guy. Does that

1210
01:27:42.960 --> 01:27:46.439
look like like a toxic male rape
culture? Kind of guys? Like a

1211
01:27:46.560 --> 01:27:50.319
chick? He said, dude,
looks like a chick. There we go

1212
01:27:50.359 --> 01:27:54.159
again, fast Horse says, what
does he say? He said, it's

1213
01:27:54.159 --> 01:27:58.800
so smart, so witty. We
clearly have got the picture Native Americans in

1214
01:27:58.840 --> 01:28:03.359
a positive light. Fast Horse on
Indigenous people are not here to allow white

1215
01:28:03.359 --> 01:28:06.720
men to engage in rape and murder. Now there's another Indian group that wants

1216
01:28:06.960 --> 01:28:11.039
the Redskins, the Commanders to go
back to the of the rest of the

1217
01:28:11.079 --> 01:28:15.199
Indians want the name back to Redskins. So what do you do about that?

1218
01:28:15.279 --> 01:28:17.560
What about that drunk and high school? And what about the Red Hawks

1219
01:28:18.760 --> 01:28:25.640
Anderson's become the Raptors, That's right, they changed. Would Notre Dame get

1220
01:28:25.720 --> 01:28:30.159
rid of that drunken dwarf you have
running around depicting irishman negative light? What

1221
01:28:30.279 --> 01:28:33.760
about that one? That little dwarf
over there that trust me? Notre Dame

1222
01:28:33.880 --> 01:28:38.439
is uh going down a dark path
right now? In a few ways,

1223
01:28:38.600 --> 01:28:44.760
they have certain classes that are interesting
about transsexual rights. Transitioning fits right in

1224
01:28:44.800 --> 01:28:49.640
with the Catholic aspect of the Foundation, I'm sure, absolutely absolutely. And

1225
01:28:49.720 --> 01:28:55.399
Saint Mary's is androgynists and tried to
make his way west, got caught in

1226
01:28:55.399 --> 01:28:59.199
a snowstorm in South Bend, Indiana, decided to found his great college right

1227
01:28:59.239 --> 01:29:01.880
there. That story, who was
it, Father Soorn, father Soren?

1228
01:29:01.960 --> 01:29:06.439
What year like eighteen eighteen thirty right
here? I think South Bend. Well,

1229
01:29:06.439 --> 01:29:09.920
he wanted to he wanted to go
to California, but he got caught

1230
01:29:09.920 --> 01:29:13.000
in a snowstorm and said, boys, we gotta we've gotta get something going

1231
01:29:13.079 --> 01:29:15.479
here. So he made him in
South Bend, Indiana. I thought that

1232
01:29:15.520 --> 01:29:18.239
was a lousy place one hundred and
fifty years and it's still is. But

1233
01:29:19.079 --> 01:29:24.840
what the cheese? But Peter Pan
is the next could have been there in

1234
01:29:25.159 --> 01:29:30.439
Orangetownty, California. We're in South
Bend, Indiana. The mistreatment of animals,

1235
01:29:30.479 --> 01:29:32.760
who's next, Pluto? I don't
know. This guy says they want

1236
01:29:32.800 --> 01:29:36.920
to investor the cat. What about
the they want to sell his name the

1237
01:29:38.039 --> 01:29:42.720
rooster, Daffy horn leghorn, Thank
you, Coxic Fast Tour says Peter van

1238
01:29:42.920 --> 01:29:46.039
is called a serious harm and the
indigenous people's community. Did Peter Pan know

1239
01:29:46.119 --> 01:29:51.279
that? Is he? Is?
He responsible for the serious harm? Unbelievable.

1240
01:29:51.319 --> 01:29:59.319
I can't wait to go see it. A guy. If you call

1241
01:29:59.359 --> 01:30:02.119
a guy a your pan, that
is a draw like you're a sissy Mary

1242
01:30:02.319 --> 01:30:06.199
like. So you can't say sissy
either. I don't can't. I don't

1243
01:30:06.199 --> 01:30:11.840
know. But that's fly in which
we live, Peter Pan, because these

1244
01:30:11.880 --> 01:30:15.199
guys don't deal with real problems and
real issues. They're going to invent some

1245
01:30:15.560 --> 01:30:18.880
examine all. They're going to examine
monogyny, misogyny and also the big stain

1246
01:30:19.239 --> 01:30:23.279
on Native culture. I can't wait
to go see that. One's been about

1247
01:30:23.279 --> 01:30:27.039
one hundred bucks for a ticket.
Let's go see Peter Pan being castrated.

1248
01:30:27.399 --> 01:30:30.079
Wouldn't walk across the street. I
don't think they had to cut a pair

1249
01:30:30.119 --> 01:30:32.880
of them anyway. I mean,
they're in the original Peter Pan. It

1250
01:30:33.000 --> 01:30:36.399
was a woman played Peter Pan because
he was like an effeminate kind of guy,

1251
01:30:36.520 --> 01:30:39.840
right, like a hell and Martin
or something like that. A little

1252
01:30:39.880 --> 01:30:43.800
Peter Pan flopping around. Yeah,
I don't know. He says, Hey,

1253
01:30:44.159 --> 01:30:46.439
Peter Pan, won't you They're they're
calling you a name. They're not

1254
01:30:46.479 --> 01:30:51.920
calling you a aggressive, strong male. They're calling you. You can't say

1255
01:30:51.920 --> 01:30:55.680
that. You can't say segment.
Give me some sports. We got problems?

1256
01:30:56.000 --> 01:30:59.720
Will he the s food reporters of
service, every local teme star heating,

1257
01:30:59.840 --> 01:31:03.840
their conditioning dealers tame star quality.
You could feel in beautiful northern Kentucky.

1258
01:31:04.359 --> 01:31:08.000
They call any weather heating it air
at eight, five, nine,

1259
01:31:08.159 --> 01:31:15.239
seven, eight, one forty eight, twenty two Sports that big games coming

1260
01:31:15.319 --> 01:31:20.760
up Sunday February eleventh, Willie write
that down the cheapest ticket so far rock

1261
01:31:20.840 --> 01:31:27.239
listen to this one eight one hundred
dollars in the nose please average ticket price

1262
01:31:28.000 --> 01:31:32.800
ten thousand, five hundred to twelve
thousand dollars is the most expensive super Bowl?

1263
01:31:32.960 --> 01:31:38.119
Or thank you? If Detroit was
there, Nobody in Detroit has any

1264
01:31:38.159 --> 01:31:42.800
money. That would have been but
you got San Francisco. Now the only

1265
01:31:42.800 --> 01:31:45.279
guy in Detroit with money is Dan
Gilbert and Matt Collin. Have we solved

1266
01:31:45.279 --> 01:31:49.119
the Taylor Swift problem? We got
to play postpone the concert if she moved

1267
01:31:49.119 --> 01:31:53.399
it up a little bit. Jay
Ratliffe is on the case. Jay Ratliffe

1268
01:31:53.399 --> 01:31:58.199
says they got a Blackbird SR.
Seventy one, but it hadn't been in

1269
01:31:58.279 --> 01:32:00.439
service. It's like eighty going to
get one ready and fire it up.

1270
01:32:00.439 --> 01:32:04.159
He's getting get a health bomber and
she will be there, She says,

1271
01:32:04.159 --> 01:32:09.600
she will be there for the Super
Bowl. She's gonna fly sixteen hours one

1272
01:32:09.600 --> 01:32:15.159
way, sixteen hours back and celebrate
with Kelsey on the field, her and

1273
01:32:15.239 --> 01:32:19.000
Travis smooching on the field with confetti
coming down. At this point, the

1274
01:32:19.039 --> 01:32:23.159
world's over, as we know.
If they win, then they will win.

1275
01:32:23.319 --> 01:32:29.119
Then they're gonna have a sign that
says Biden for President. They won

1276
01:32:29.319 --> 01:32:33.119
kelsey an anthem, kneeler. If
I recall, probably he's a liberal kind

1277
01:32:33.119 --> 01:32:38.039
of a guy. Travis sudlight bud
light, So we'll see about that.

1278
01:32:38.399 --> 01:32:42.720
He was drinking bud light. In
other words, if she endorses Biden,

1279
01:32:42.760 --> 01:32:46.319
will out make a difference. Well, I'm sure you're reverencing the same article

1280
01:32:46.359 --> 01:32:50.640
I saw this said one in five
young people will base their decision on what

1281
01:32:50.720 --> 01:32:55.239
Taylor Swift says. She really want
to delve into that, though she did.

1282
01:32:55.239 --> 01:32:57.640
We're gonna win, and we're gonna
help. We have plans to build

1283
01:32:57.640 --> 01:33:00.760
a railroad the specific all the way
across the name Ocean. This is my

1284
01:33:00.800 --> 01:33:02.560
favorite one right there, Indian Ocean
Railroad board. That's going to be some

1285
01:33:02.640 --> 01:33:05.239
dense, hairy I can't say that, can't say Indian, can you?

1286
01:33:06.399 --> 01:33:11.760
With Regarding the filibuster, I believe
we should go back to a position in

1287
01:33:11.800 --> 01:33:15.600
the filibuster that existed just when I
came to the United States Senate one hundred

1288
01:33:15.600 --> 01:33:19.439
and twenty years ago. That's our
leader. What if we had legitimate media?

1289
01:33:19.600 --> 01:33:24.159
Do that means not a joke?
Everybody that's why we were defeated in

1290
01:33:24.279 --> 01:33:28.880
twenty eighteen when they tried to do
it. We went from fifty four states,

1291
01:33:30.279 --> 01:33:32.840
Why do you do that? I
think we got a problem this every

1292
01:33:32.960 --> 01:33:38.800
day America is a nation that can
be defined in a single word. I

1293
01:33:38.840 --> 01:33:43.800
don't I don't know what the word
is. What about the Harry later and

1294
01:33:43.880 --> 01:33:46.960
we have that sound bite little black
boys wanted to rub my hairy legs.

1295
01:33:47.039 --> 01:33:49.880
Yeah, he called them roaches.
By the way, could you imagine a

1296
01:33:49.920 --> 01:33:56.119
Republican you got so many cutstakes that, I got so many of them.

1297
01:33:56.479 --> 01:33:58.920
What if we had legitimate media that
was say, now, wait a minute,

1298
01:33:58.960 --> 01:34:01.119
we got a dysfunctional president. They
can't read a teleprompter, losing his

1299
01:34:01.199 --> 01:34:04.239
mind. He thinks there's fifty four
states. Of course, Obama said there

1300
01:34:04.239 --> 01:34:08.640
were fifty seven states. The two
of them. That's one hundred eleven states.

1301
01:34:09.880 --> 01:34:13.319
He's in the state of anxieties the
British Kingdom. All of what we

1302
01:34:13.399 --> 01:34:21.840
do, I got Harry legs,
Harry legs, turn one, then my

1303
01:34:21.960 --> 01:34:43.479
legs. Okay, yeah, that's
right, legs. Yeah, man,

1304
01:34:43.720 --> 01:34:50.199
come back up. We can't it's
always set to see you can't make it

1305
01:34:50.279 --> 01:34:56.039
up segment, that's for sure.
No, he's our president. By the

1306
01:34:56.039 --> 01:34:59.520
way, I want to thank Greg
Hoag who sent me a book called One

1307
01:34:59.600 --> 01:35:02.119
Man's Wilderness. It just opened it
up. I guess it's about a guy

1308
01:35:02.159 --> 01:35:08.000
who went out to Alaska and just
lived off the land. I often talk

1309
01:35:08.039 --> 01:35:11.359
about how that's what I want.
I've seen some Eventually you want to go

1310
01:35:11.439 --> 01:35:14.560
up. Thank you for the book. Live like off grid, just get

1311
01:35:14.600 --> 01:35:20.079
away from all this. The taxes, taxes, bs b s, off

1312
01:35:20.159 --> 01:35:24.920
all those levee Did you think people
when they they realized that there's half of

1313
01:35:24.960 --> 01:35:29.319
those they do that individually? And
how do you vote against a hungry senior

1314
01:35:29.359 --> 01:35:31.960
citizen or something disabled kid? How
do you vote against zoo animals about to

1315
01:35:32.000 --> 01:35:35.319
be released if the levee doesn't pass
because they got to be fed. I

1316
01:35:35.399 --> 01:35:40.680
read the list that somebody. Then
the live that's the one I can't.

1317
01:35:41.000 --> 01:35:43.560
I cannot. Then the tax bill
comes, people go nuts, Where did

1318
01:35:43.560 --> 01:35:47.720
this come from? Well, you
voted, you voted for Yeah, this

1319
01:35:47.840 --> 01:35:55.359
county they've hated. When's the last
time the levee or failed? I've asked,

1320
01:35:55.479 --> 01:35:58.279
last time something failed? Around in
him? I mean, what didn't

1321
01:35:58.399 --> 01:36:01.279
work? Didn't Deeters try to another
jail and not not down flames. And

1322
01:36:01.319 --> 01:36:04.359
that's the last thing I can remember
that went down down something we you know,

1323
01:36:04.520 --> 01:36:10.239
actually need a bunch of school levies
still haven't passed school. Things that

1324
01:36:10.279 --> 01:36:13.359
are like kind of important, but
these other things are not important. Past

1325
01:36:13.399 --> 01:36:19.119
all the time, seventy library,
we'll get any books not easily passed.

1326
01:36:19.199 --> 01:36:24.399
Yeah, nobody goes reads books sake, it's online, it's on TikTok.

1327
01:36:24.600 --> 01:36:29.119
I'm just saying, well, you're
defending Peter Pan and tinker Bell. Something's

1328
01:36:29.119 --> 01:36:32.840
wrong with you. You probably you
probably you were probably gonna play a deer

1329
01:36:32.880 --> 01:36:35.760
park as Peter Pan. I might
have been running around with makeup on.

1330
01:36:35.880 --> 01:36:40.560
And that's making fun of Indians and
raping and killing them. That's what they

1331
01:36:40.560 --> 01:36:45.960
say. That's what fast Horse says. Checked the background, legitlemen, if

1332
01:36:46.000 --> 01:36:48.600
your name is a fast Horse,
you're probably in Can you say Indian?

1333
01:36:48.880 --> 01:36:53.560
No? What do you get him
on? Get on fast Horse? Yeah?

1334
01:36:53.960 --> 01:36:55.840
All right, what's on the big
show today? Rocket? Well,

1335
01:36:55.840 --> 01:36:59.159
we have your girlfriend right out of
gate, Tanya, former girlfriend. Sorry

1336
01:36:59.239 --> 01:37:02.479
say for me, And so we're
gonna talk about the violence going on downtown

1337
01:37:02.640 --> 01:37:06.319
a little bit. The hell's going
on? It's not good downtown. Get

1338
01:37:06.319 --> 01:37:10.439
beat up and you know, how
do you jump in the middle of Someone

1339
01:37:10.479 --> 01:37:12.680
said, how come you didn't get
in there and defend them? These two

1340
01:37:12.680 --> 01:37:16.560
women's I said, are you kidding
me? They would have kicked the crap

1341
01:37:16.560 --> 01:37:20.680
out of the rock. Maybe not
Johnson, but boyman, could you handle

1342
01:37:20.720 --> 01:37:24.479
eight of them kicking you and punching? You know? If I had my

1343
01:37:24.760 --> 01:37:28.399
sig P three sixty five in my
probably, but then you'll be indicted.

1344
01:37:28.600 --> 01:37:30.760
If you know, then you got
issues. Man. I don't know.

1345
01:37:30.800 --> 01:37:34.039
That's why I just don't go down
there. Not My family say, get

1346
01:37:34.039 --> 01:37:36.760
me out of the Stooge's report,
please, Well they an honor of a

1347
01:37:36.840 --> 01:37:41.399
rainy day here in the Tri State, and hopefully the sun will shine soon.

1348
01:37:41.600 --> 01:37:44.960
Peter Pan wants the rape Indians.
According to Jennifer Ketch, Mark,

1349
01:37:45.600 --> 01:37:49.880
I leave you with the immortal words
of the stewed report. You've talked about

1350
01:37:49.960 --> 01:37:55.640
using some of Trump's money you're about
to get to help shore up women's rights.

1351
01:37:56.000 --> 01:37:59.399
Do you know what that might be, what that might look like?

1352
01:38:00.880 --> 01:38:05.840
Yes? Tell me I had such
such great ideas for all the good I'm

1353
01:38:05.880 --> 01:38:10.560
going to do with this money.
First thing, Rachel, you and I

1354
01:38:11.000 --> 01:38:18.000
go shopping to get completely new Wardrobes, recycle Forwley, fishing rod for Robbie

1355
01:38:18.239 --> 01:38:25.279
Rachel. What do you want Penhouse? Rachel, Penhouse and France? You

1356
01:38:25.319 --> 01:38:30.000
want France? You want to go
fishing in France? No, all right,

1357
01:38:30.840 --> 01:38:36.840
that's a joke. If if me
fishing in France could do something for

1358
01:38:36.920 --> 01:38:46.560
women's rights, I would take the
Let me let me ask as if you

1359
01:38:46.640 --> 01:38:49.960
need persuasion in that regard. Let
me let me finish with the final question.

1360
01:38:51.159 --> 01:38:57.239
Eighty eight eighty three million dollars for
defamation. Yeah. We live in

1361
01:38:57.239 --> 01:39:00.560
a country where you can't even lock
someone up for like a real crime,

1362
01:39:00.920 --> 01:39:05.319
but defamation. You can't faint somebody. And she has no character anyway,

1363
01:39:06.079 --> 01:39:11.960
no care. She's on any video
talking about rape. And she said at

1364
01:39:11.960 --> 01:39:14.680
one point rap is a good thing. He will like it or something.

1365
01:39:14.760 --> 01:39:16.840
Jean Carroll said that, but segment
can't take it. Thank you very much

1366
01:39:16.840 --> 01:39:23.640
for your involvement. Anytime arrest Peter
Pan and Tinkerbell immediately they're rapist, Rocky,

1367
01:39:23.680 --> 01:39:27.720
thank you. You talked to Tanya
Rourke about this on news radio seven

1368
01:39:27.760 --> 01:39:30.159
hundreds WLW woll