WEBVTT

1
00:00:18.359 --> 00:00:22.359
Hello, everyone, Welcome back to
the Firescape cast. It's our second episode

2
00:00:22.600 --> 00:00:26.160
of two twenty four. I's what
you're saying. In general, it's done

3
00:00:26.199 --> 00:00:32.159
a lot more than that seventy two, seventy two episode seventy two, but

4
00:00:32.320 --> 00:00:35.880
episode two, to be precise,
it's a good amount coming up on a

5
00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:40.439
few years now. Are you guys
used to writing twenty twenty four yet typing

6
00:00:40.479 --> 00:00:44.479
twenty twenty four? Don't write date
lines anymore? To typing? You're right?

7
00:00:44.679 --> 00:00:46.880
Oh yeah, Dan, you have
you broke? You had what you

8
00:00:46.880 --> 00:00:51.560
had an injury that? Oh,
perhaps he's not typing at all. Perhaps

9
00:00:51.960 --> 00:00:58.600
on this podcast personally injured me maliciously
and intentionally. Hey Mike, readay Mike,

10
00:00:58.640 --> 00:01:03.640
can you do this? They specifically
asked me if I wanted this finger

11
00:01:03.680 --> 00:01:06.920
tape to it, so I wasn't
constantly flitting people off, and I said,

12
00:01:06.959 --> 00:01:08.480
no, leave it. And so
now I've got this from Seinfeld,

13
00:01:08.879 --> 00:01:15.159
and George is driving the player to
the PBS fundraiser and then he gets cut

14
00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:17.280
off and thinks the guy flips him
off, but he falls into a gas

15
00:01:17.319 --> 00:01:21.400
station. He had a middle Oh
right, yeah, I got the ray

16
00:01:21.439 --> 00:01:23.239
tomorrow. We'll see how long I
keep it on, tell us what you

17
00:01:23.280 --> 00:01:27.680
told the doctor, Like, what
were the I mean, it was very

18
00:01:27.680 --> 00:01:33.040
easy to talk to the doctor without
bringing it up. Like I was just

19
00:01:33.079 --> 00:01:36.599
like I fell and I braced myself
and you know, like that's all that's

20
00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:40.159
necessary. It's true. You didn't
say you fell into a tub of cheese.

21
00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:45.239
No, I can't afford to look
ridiculous. That's during your video game

22
00:01:45.280 --> 00:01:49.879
live stream weekend where we expensed Popeyes. It is, yeah, I did

23
00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:57.439
that fucking seven said eight hour almost
stream with a broken finger without realizing it.

24
00:01:57.560 --> 00:02:00.640
I didn't know until over to I
got a whole Christmas. I flew

25
00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:04.840
to Kansas, I celebrated with my
family, I hosted a New Year's party.

26
00:02:04.879 --> 00:02:08.639
All that unknowingly broken finger. I'm
just a I had discussed the possibility

27
00:02:08.639 --> 00:02:13.159
of it because it was very swollen. And you said to me, Mary,

28
00:02:13.280 --> 00:02:15.919
do you think it's swollen? And
I said, if it is,

29
00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:20.879
like not functional in two days,
you gotta go to a dock. It

30
00:02:20.919 --> 00:02:23.039
was like twice the size of a
finger. It was started turning like black,

31
00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:27.680
and it was very very Uh the
knuckle, the knuckle is where it's

32
00:02:27.719 --> 00:02:30.800
broken, so like that's where all
the swelling was and everything so ah,

33
00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:35.400
man, I remember when I bellow, like everything hurt because both hands,

34
00:02:35.520 --> 00:02:38.439
well my knees got scraped up and
bloodied, my elbows got scraped up and

35
00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:42.520
bloodied, and my fingers on both
hands. But like when Jake was just

36
00:02:42.560 --> 00:02:46.520
outside the door and he just heard
like ah that was like me yelling and

37
00:02:46.560 --> 00:02:49.000
stuff, and he couldn't get in
because the door was locked. So I

38
00:02:49.000 --> 00:02:52.719
had to like crawl to the door
on my bathroom floor and unlock it.

39
00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:55.199
And I remember the thing I was
holding the most was my hand. I

40
00:02:55.240 --> 00:02:58.759
remember, so like that must have
been my brain being like, hey,

41
00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:01.479
that's the bard that's actually super fucked
up. So you know they cater to

42
00:03:01.520 --> 00:03:07.159
that. So yeah, I mean
I broke I've broken several fingers, but

43
00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:09.120
this one I didn't know and or
care about. Mary. I think you're

44
00:03:09.120 --> 00:03:14.560
actually there the next morning break,
Yeah, wow, that's her thing.

45
00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:19.280
This is never So that's like me
straightening as much as I can. I

46
00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:21.319
mean I can do it by either
hand, but that's as far as like

47
00:03:21.319 --> 00:03:23.960
the actual tendon will allow me.
It's like an x men, But like

48
00:03:24.159 --> 00:03:28.960
my only skill is that I can
break your fingers with like twitching my nose,

49
00:03:29.319 --> 00:03:32.840
terrifying Yeah. You can only brings
very indirectly and unintentionally and in ways

50
00:03:32.840 --> 00:03:38.039
you could have never possibly predicted somebody
would break up work. Yeah, and

51
00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:40.599
it'd be great if I, like
worked for the government and they were like,

52
00:03:40.680 --> 00:03:44.840
we need you to interrogate this guy. And I'm like filling a tub

53
00:03:44.879 --> 00:03:46.800
with twenty five boxes of mac and
cheese and he's like, what are you

54
00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:53.960
doing? And I'm like, you'll
see tell us the name that has the

55
00:03:53.960 --> 00:03:57.240
authority to like launch a nuke in
like a rival country, and it's like,

56
00:03:57.479 --> 00:03:59.639
leading up to it, you make
it so all their fingers break so

57
00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:02.439
they can't press the button, and
you say World War three. I say,

58
00:04:02.719 --> 00:04:06.080
I say, let's get this gal
down to Cuba. Show that Castro

59
00:04:06.199 --> 00:04:10.639
the old what's for with twitchy knows
and his broken fingers? Does Cuba have

60
00:04:10.719 --> 00:04:15.680
nukes? I'm just I'm referencing the
pigs. Yeah, but do they have

61
00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:16.480
nukes now? No? No,
no, no, no, Cuban missile

62
00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:19.079
crisis, not the big pigs.
I mean, there was whatever Cuba stuff.

63
00:04:19.120 --> 00:04:23.959
But do they have nukes? Now? Maybe I don't believe nokes,

64
00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:28.759
Okay, they might. Actually I
was very surprised by how many countries have

65
00:04:28.839 --> 00:04:31.399
nukes When I look at can I
guess and marry you guess too, Mike.

66
00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:34.839
You'll look it up. How many
of how many countries have? How

67
00:04:34.839 --> 00:04:41.839
many countries have nukes? Yes?
Does Cuba have nukes? First? I

68
00:04:41.879 --> 00:04:45.920
want to Cuba is not known to
have nukes? Chemical by okay, so

69
00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:49.639
can you lie? Like? How
accurate is this where countries are like no

70
00:04:49.720 --> 00:04:57.800
nukes here? Like, I don't
think hold on? Hold on? Okay?

71
00:04:58.360 --> 00:05:01.600
How many there's literally I think it
was a New York Times graphic last

72
00:05:01.680 --> 00:05:05.040
year. Oh my god, like
ka, no, not, I will

73
00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:11.120
say it's pretty scary. You're not. That's the spoiler. I'm gonna say,

74
00:05:11.199 --> 00:05:15.720
hold on eighteen Okay, Mary,
what's your guests? I'm gonna bob.

75
00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:21.720
I'd like to double that. I'm
gonna go with thirty six. What

76
00:05:23.120 --> 00:05:27.040
I didn't finish the search term.
I just entered how many countries and it

77
00:05:27.040 --> 00:05:32.279
gave me one hundred and ninety five. That's all of them have nukes?

78
00:05:33.120 --> 00:05:38.160
Okay, Okay, that's more reassuring. But all right, so you're thirty

79
00:05:38.160 --> 00:05:42.519
six. Mary, I'm going with
double what you said because I think it's

80
00:05:42.560 --> 00:05:45.639
a lot, and I think that
I think the world is evil. Okay,

81
00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:50.439
again, keep in mind, are
these prices right rules? I just

82
00:05:50.439 --> 00:05:55.199
think closer. I'm just saying like
it's if I'm over by one, do

83
00:05:55.279 --> 00:05:58.360
I lose noice? Whoever's closer?
If it's twenty four, we both win?

84
00:05:58.959 --> 00:06:01.920
All right? Go ahead? Okay, Dan, Sorry you said eighteen,

85
00:06:02.839 --> 00:06:08.079
Mary, you said thirty six?
Nine of them? Do only nine?

86
00:06:08.120 --> 00:06:15.079
I guess a bunch of pussies.
What we take over so much?

87
00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:18.800
I had the most evil reaction to
that. Ever, is anyone for to

88
00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:23.879
protect themselves anymore? Okay? As
according to Statista, I don't know if

89
00:06:23.879 --> 00:06:29.720
it's a viable source as of August
last year. As of I love statistics.

90
00:06:29.959 --> 00:06:36.040
Dot com statistics make me horny,
dot gift. There's nine. Wait,

91
00:06:36.079 --> 00:06:40.279
but now Wikipedia is telling me eight. Okay, okay, then wait,

92
00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:45.319
hold on eight sovereign Eight sovereign states
a publicly announced successful detonation of nuclear

93
00:06:45.360 --> 00:06:48.120
weapons. Five are considered be nuclear
weapon states, uh in order to acquisition

94
00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:51.399
Okay, there's five like superpowers with
nukes, which you could probably guess.

95
00:06:51.439 --> 00:06:58.319
Okay, US, Russia, China
and in North Korea want some real bad

96
00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:00.920
I don't know if they have them
for real. They probably have one,

97
00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:03.560
but it's like weak and it like
won't go very yeah. Iran okay,

98
00:07:03.600 --> 00:07:08.319
I ran, okay, okay,
So let's be it seems reasonable. We're

99
00:07:08.519 --> 00:07:13.399
dabbling with some Uh there is a
nine. I see where the why the

100
00:07:13.959 --> 00:07:18.040
with the disparity between Wikipedia is the
nine is Israel, which is widely known

101
00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:23.279
to have nukes, but they never
admit it. So here's a chart.

102
00:07:23.600 --> 00:07:26.399
And of course, in August twenty
twenty three, who do you think has

103
00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:31.600
the most nukes? Us we're we're
nuke lush, like we're number one.

104
00:07:32.160 --> 00:07:35.680
We are number two. We invented
them. Russia has more, according a

105
00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:44.240
bunch of six hundred and fifty more
like I mean, freak. Russia's no.

106
00:07:44.279 --> 00:07:47.480
When you're like when you're building up
an arsenal against pretty massive countries,

107
00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:53.519
one nuke is not gonna Russia.
Oh okay, So the United States is

108
00:07:53.519 --> 00:07:57.240
two. I think the United States
has and I don't know how they're classifying

109
00:07:57.240 --> 00:08:01.720
these. I'm not twoty, Mary, that sounds like a good number.

110
00:08:01.959 --> 00:08:07.560
I was gonna say we have at
least one hundred and eighty. You are

111
00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:11.600
both wrong. It is five thousand, two hundred and forty four. Wait

112
00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:13.920
said Russia at six hundred and fifty
and they're number one. They had six

113
00:08:13.959 --> 00:08:20.000
hundred and fifty more than us.
They have need that many, No,

114
00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:24.000
nobody, nobody needs one. Who
do you think is three China? Correct?

115
00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:28.879
How many? Yeah? Because there
they are constantly constructing things. Well,

116
00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:33.279
it's like me making cure ofs and
command and conquer four thousand marry How

117
00:08:33.320 --> 00:08:35.279
many do you think China has?
How many do we have? Again,

118
00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:41.039
no, two hundred and forty four. And then next is Russia and they

119
00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:43.799
have like because no, Russia's first, they have five thousand, eight hundred

120
00:08:43.000 --> 00:08:46.080
basically six thousand we have sarek te
hundred forty four. And then China has

121
00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:52.039
how many? Four thousand, eight
hundred, four hundred and ten. Oh

122
00:08:52.879 --> 00:08:56.720
so stupid. I don't know anything
about rectory. Geez. Wow. I

123
00:08:56.720 --> 00:09:03.480
don't even let them on the podium. Geez. They can't even compete a

124
00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:07.679
bunch of users. Keep in mind, they're like, okay, so I

125
00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:11.080
don't I'm sure there's some that they
don't disclose. But then again, there

126
00:09:11.080 --> 00:09:15.639
are only a certain number of countries
that are have a nuclear triad, which

127
00:09:15.639 --> 00:09:20.879
is when you have nuclear launch capable
submarines, nuclear launch capable land silos,

128
00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:26.960
and nuclear launch or nuclear drop capable
planes, the triad idea being you're more

129
00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:30.360
of a threat like in the game
of nuclear Chicken, because you can take

130
00:09:30.399 --> 00:09:33.759
out two of these things, but
you're not gonna find every stealth sub.

131
00:09:33.960 --> 00:09:39.320
We can kill you six times before
you hit the ground. We shoot them

132
00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:41.720
from the sea, we shoot them
from the sky, we shoot them from

133
00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:48.039
our butts. We have nukes hidden
in our children's toys. They are everywhere,

134
00:09:48.120 --> 00:09:52.080
and if you fuck with us,
we'll kill you. Basically, they

135
00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:56.279
you need to build a tech get
all three of those, right, Yes,

136
00:09:56.919 --> 00:10:01.320
yeah, I love your your understanding. The old stage is painted by

137
00:10:01.639 --> 00:10:05.519
two thousand meddle year and yes,
yes. What is the fourth country after

138
00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:11.120
China? India? Canada? Neither? What did you say to India?

139
00:10:11.320 --> 00:10:16.360
No? But in India Iran and
it's not no I ran as that's a

140
00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:20.639
whole Pakistan have it? Yep,
Okay, Stan has him. That's not

141
00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:24.240
number four of them. Okay.
So again another game where or sorry,

142
00:10:24.279 --> 00:10:28.559
another quote unquote game of chicken where
two countries do not historically get along Pakistan

143
00:10:28.600 --> 00:10:31.799
and India. Yeah, one hundred
and seventy and one hundred and sixty four

144
00:10:31.919 --> 00:10:37.519
respectively. Do you say Canada does
not have them. Not. I feel

145
00:10:37.519 --> 00:10:41.559
like they have one. I bet
you Trudeau's lion he's got at least one.

146
00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:48.240
It's in a penguin's north nuclear he
doesn't have to trifecta. He's only

147
00:10:48.240 --> 00:10:52.559
got one penguin that's nuclear charge and
he sends him out. I am curious

148
00:10:52.600 --> 00:10:54.720
what is the deal with Canada,
because I feel like I've been there a

149
00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:58.360
couple of times. It was very
nice. I know people who are from

150
00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:01.559
there, I know people who have
moved there from America. I hear nothing

151
00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:03.879
but glowing things about Canada all the
time. It seems to have a lot

152
00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:07.919
of the benefits of us with like
not a lot of the downsides. Like

153
00:11:07.960 --> 00:11:09.919
I don't know a lot about Canada, but everything I've heard is positive.

154
00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:16.000
Why aren't we all moving to Canada
boring? It's not boring, it's boring.

155
00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:22.120
Montreal Quebec is like my favorite patch
of Earth, well second third favorite

156
00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:30.559
after Paris, which changed my life. I Canada is great. I hear

157
00:11:30.600 --> 00:11:35.159
awesome things about Vancouver. I've only
ever been in Toronto. Montreal like the

158
00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:39.159
Ontario province, state province, but
it seems like they're never fucking with anyone

159
00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:43.720
I don't ever like they're never getting
attacked or they're not again it's boring.

160
00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:48.559
They're real fighting, no, like
really exciting things. They don't have four

161
00:11:48.600 --> 00:11:54.840
locos like they're just not like pushing
the boundaries of anything. That sounds all

162
00:11:54.919 --> 00:12:00.000
right, that sounds like a good
you know. That's what happens when you

163
00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:03.919
when you hit like through old Yeah, like Canada, mid thirties. People

164
00:12:03.960 --> 00:12:07.200
love Canada. My state borders Canada. I can just drive north me and

165
00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:11.440
Canada later tonight. I grew up
fucking two hours from the border of Canada.

166
00:12:11.639 --> 00:12:15.279
It's great an hour, it's great. I love Canad. Let's all

167
00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:20.759
go to Canada, like permanently in
Montreal. I like, I like serving

168
00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:24.120
the chance I would live in Montreal. And there's also paperwork and job stuff

169
00:12:24.120 --> 00:12:28.799
for Canada. I've been to Canada
a couple of times. It's very pretty,

170
00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:35.320
it's very green, and I feel
like it's clean. Their cities are

171
00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:43.720
really nice and clean. I went
to Neil Blomcamp. Uh he's Canadian or

172
00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:48.320
at least lives in Canada for the
very minimum, and blom Camp Studios is

173
00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:54.919
in Canada, and I visited him
where in Canada, you know, Montreal.

174
00:12:54.440 --> 00:12:58.600
Just say mew, oh, you
know it in Montreal. He's up

175
00:12:58.639 --> 00:13:01.960
there. Uh no, I think
he was in Vancouver. It was really

176
00:13:03.039 --> 00:13:07.240
close. Are you just same?
That's like saying someone is in Myrtle Beach

177
00:13:07.399 --> 00:13:13.440
but they're actually in San Diego.
That is how far off close enough any

178
00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:18.639
Canadian lesters? She does not represent
me. He lives in Vancouver. And

179
00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:20.720
it was just kind of like I
don't know, just like not a lot

180
00:13:20.799 --> 00:13:26.879
goes down there and all right,
but it's peaceful, right, I mean

181
00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:28.960
they've got problems. I don't know
which. I just assume. What do

182
00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:35.039
you think the biggest problem Cana is
mm, I have no idea. I

183
00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:37.679
don't get Canadian newspapers. They probably
have a lot of bird attacks. Oh

184
00:13:37.799 --> 00:13:46.279
yeah, yeah. They probably have
a train system that's like super efficient and

185
00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:48.440
every once in a while it shuts
down and it's chaos. It's probably like

186
00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:54.000
a hockey strike like ten years ago. They probably have like such a good

187
00:13:54.039 --> 00:14:00.200
food system for the people, and
every once in a while they serve too

188
00:14:00.200 --> 00:14:03.399
many crackers and everyone has like you
know, it's a riot. Not to

189
00:14:03.440 --> 00:14:09.840
get too political, I just did
you new course, what is the one

190
00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:13.960
are the biggest problems Canada's facing right
now. It's number one. Climate change,

191
00:14:15.159 --> 00:14:18.799
Well everyone, that's not exclusive to
Canada. Number two, that's not

192
00:14:18.840 --> 00:14:24.000
a real fucking problem. Canada,
get yourself some real fucking problems. Number

193
00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:31.399
two, gender inequality, welcome to
the club. Number three immigration policy.

194
00:14:31.919 --> 00:14:37.000
Fucking come on, Okay, Yeah, well actually I do think they have

195
00:14:37.159 --> 00:14:41.679
serious immigration issues. Yeah, I
mean, this is all, but none

196
00:14:41.720 --> 00:14:48.320
of those are like starvation or like
serious issues. I mean they are serious

197
00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:50.759
issues. I don't want to actually
make light of the issues. I'm just

198
00:14:50.799 --> 00:14:54.960
saying, like, we got fucking
problems. If you have cancer in America,

199
00:14:56.600 --> 00:15:01.320
he's not a serious issue a problem, but we like literally haven't solved

200
00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:05.799
healthcare. If you get cancer in
America, you're fucked, Like, we

201
00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:11.200
have serious issues. Oh my god. If you get addicted to opioids see

202
00:15:11.240 --> 00:15:13.960
a later bucco, that shit like
just doesn't happen. In most countries,

203
00:15:15.000 --> 00:15:18.320
they just take care of you.
Oh let's say, if you have a

204
00:15:18.440 --> 00:15:22.679
person in your family that is special
needs. In other countries, they're like,

205
00:15:22.879 --> 00:15:26.879
cool, we'll make sure that that
person's taken care of and is taken

206
00:15:26.919 --> 00:15:30.240
care of by the government. In
America, they're like, we're gonna tax

207
00:15:30.279 --> 00:15:35.320
you double just because we hate you. My uncle who like works and his

208
00:15:35.440 --> 00:15:39.879
special needs, they they basically were
like, we're suing you because we gave

209
00:15:39.919 --> 00:15:43.840
you money for being special needs,
but you're able to work. And it's

210
00:15:43.879 --> 00:15:48.679
just like, but you want people
to work, right, Like that's a

211
00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:52.159
good thing that he was able to
work, and then the government sued him.

212
00:15:52.559 --> 00:15:56.840
Where are the worst? We have
serious fucking issues, and it's much

213
00:15:56.919 --> 00:16:00.919
broader than global warming. Money to
global warming is not going to take us

214
00:16:00.919 --> 00:16:08.320
out nuclear war, and like owing
owing your insurance company four billion dollars is

215
00:16:08.360 --> 00:16:11.720
our problem. Before we move on, Because I know we're all political experts,

216
00:16:11.759 --> 00:16:15.759
I will say that climate change might
be the broadest issue the whole world

217
00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:23.559
faces for is my personal opinion.
But and birds, climate change strikes no.

218
00:16:23.639 --> 00:16:27.039
But I like, I love Canada. Montreal is one of the few

219
00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:33.399
other cities I would live in given
the choice. I've been there like twice

220
00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:37.120
and I enjoyed it quite a bit. Two times I was there, I

221
00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:41.440
liked it. Like two months ago
I was in Ottawa, Quebec. It's

222
00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:44.799
wild that you could be there that
much. M hm. There's cool stuff

223
00:16:44.840 --> 00:16:51.000
there. They've got wrestling games.
They're good as being from Buffalo. Niagara

224
00:16:51.000 --> 00:16:55.159
Falls, Ontario is a place I
used to go all the time as a

225
00:16:55.240 --> 00:17:00.720
kid, and it like so pretty
there. Falls is better than our falls

226
00:17:00.799 --> 00:17:04.680
because they put a lot of energy
into the landscaping, so it's filled with

227
00:17:04.759 --> 00:17:10.160
flowers and gardens and it's beautiful and
our side is like all concrete. And

228
00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:12.440
then it's like, come look at
the falls. That's it. You want

229
00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:15.039
to go to their side. Their
strip clubs. The women can get or

230
00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:18.000
the people can get completely naked,
and you can also have alcohol there.

231
00:17:18.039 --> 00:17:22.359
So that was like eighteen, Yeah, you'd get your passports out to go

232
00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:26.839
to a strip club. Mike ab
Absolutely, I didn't. I just know

233
00:17:26.960 --> 00:17:30.920
people who would be like for going
to Falls, it's me. I'm people,

234
00:17:32.279 --> 00:17:33.960
I fucking go. I went to
it all the time. As soon

235
00:17:33.960 --> 00:17:37.720
as we turned eighteen, we all
went to Canada to get shit hammered.

236
00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:40.319
I think I told you guys this. That were the very first time I

237
00:17:40.359 --> 00:17:42.119
ever went. We went to a
strip club and it had a huge sign

238
00:17:42.200 --> 00:17:48.039
that said we're the best strip club
in Canada. We have twenty gorgeous girls

239
00:17:48.039 --> 00:17:49.759
and one ugly one, and they
were like, let's go and we went

240
00:17:49.799 --> 00:17:55.200
inside. It was great, they
know that they're getting all these Americans,

241
00:17:55.200 --> 00:17:57.400
New Yorkers, New Englanders coming up, so like we really got to lure

242
00:17:57.440 --> 00:18:02.279
them to the side and get all
that money on. In our tourist mecca,

243
00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:06.480
we had a good time. I
remember really enjoying and gambling and stuff

244
00:18:06.519 --> 00:18:10.000
over there. Like you could.
You could get a steak dinner in Canada

245
00:18:10.079 --> 00:18:14.240
for like twenty bucks. Ah,
I changed my mind. Canada's great.

246
00:18:14.680 --> 00:18:21.880
Nor McDonald's probably my favorite Canadian.
Yeah, McDonald, Wayne Gretzkreaky, Gretzkreky,

247
00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:26.200
grets Creeky, probably Canadian because he's
a hockey guy. Jim Carrey,

248
00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:33.160
we're assuming he's Canadian. So manybody
who plays as Canadians. Keanu Reeves is

249
00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:37.279
great Canadian. Oh oh, okay, have we talked about this name and

250
00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:44.119
actor. I guarantee you they are
either from Australia or Canada. That's insane.

251
00:18:44.759 --> 00:18:55.920
I promise you do it. Tom
Hardy well minus him with a non

252
00:18:56.160 --> 00:19:06.240
British accent name anyone, I dare
you continue? Just continue? Jim Carrey,

253
00:19:07.279 --> 00:19:10.799
he's Canadian, right, Oh you
were saying Australia or Canada? Yes,

254
00:19:10.880 --> 00:19:12.799
okay, okay, every single actor
is Australian, Robert de Niro,

255
00:19:12.960 --> 00:19:21.240
Tom Cruise Australian Canadian. This is
no but for real though, a lot

256
00:19:21.319 --> 00:19:25.359
of actors are from Australian and Naomi
Watts and no, no, no,

257
00:19:25.359 --> 00:19:26.680
no, no, no, okay, this is a real thing. And

258
00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:30.680
my friend I was talking to is
Australian. Apparently there are like a lot

259
00:19:30.680 --> 00:19:34.759
of government subsidies to encourage actors.
And I forget the specifics, but there

260
00:19:34.759 --> 00:19:40.000
are a lot of like the Hemsworth's
Like who did I? I did not

261
00:19:40.200 --> 00:19:44.960
know was Australian till recently, Well
I knew Margot Roby is Australian. Uh,

262
00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:51.519
this is great radio? Who was
I surprised? And new Kate Blanche

263
00:19:51.599 --> 00:19:53.640
a new Eric Banner, Rose Byn, Hugh Jackman. These are all obvious.

264
00:19:55.440 --> 00:19:56.359
Guy Pearce didn't. I didn't know, Guy Pierce. I did not

265
00:19:56.440 --> 00:20:02.279
know Joel Edgerton or Isle of Fishers. You're weaving. Joel Edgerton was in

266
00:20:03.279 --> 00:20:07.039
Farrior, he was in I'm looking
at his face. I don't think I've

267
00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:08.960
ever seen this man. He's in
a bunch. He was in Zero Dark

268
00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:15.039
thirty. Oh okay, then I've
seen him. Naomi Watts, Russell Crowe,

269
00:20:15.720 --> 00:20:22.079
like, I don't think I knew
Alex No, he's American. Colin

270
00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:30.759
Farrell. Colin Farrell is Irish,
the most Irish. Will Ferrell Australian?

271
00:20:32.160 --> 00:20:37.000
Yeah wow? Wait is will fail
Canadian? And I think he's from California.

272
00:20:37.079 --> 00:20:41.160
Let's see. Yeah, that sounds
right. He did a lot of

273
00:20:41.160 --> 00:20:45.160
factors from ya. He's from Irvine, Australia. I'm from Irvine. Is

274
00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:52.319
that a Pablo Francisco reverence? Jesus
Christ? When you throw the frisbee into

275
00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:56.720
the neighbor's yard and they pick it
up. I'm from Irvine. That's the

276
00:20:56.759 --> 00:20:57.960
only joke of his I remember.
I just remember A bunch of my friends

277
00:20:57.960 --> 00:21:00.799
in college were really into him.
He drove me nuts. Yeah same here,

278
00:21:00.839 --> 00:21:03.079
and I never really liked him,
but that bit just stuck in my

279
00:21:03.119 --> 00:21:11.319
head for something, for some reason
forever. We I'm finally watching Better Call

280
00:21:11.400 --> 00:21:15.519
saul Ah. I watched an episode
today. I have like six episodes left.

281
00:21:15.559 --> 00:21:22.480
We are episode ten of season one? Can I can I get plot?

282
00:21:22.480 --> 00:21:26.480
Details? Were about the first season
of a show that I aired like

283
00:21:26.839 --> 00:21:30.839
almost a decade ago. I think
season one I think is old. I

284
00:21:30.839 --> 00:21:34.880
mean, I don't know if it's
a decade I mean it's probably actually yeah,

285
00:21:34.920 --> 00:21:38.920
probably yeah, the first season probably
I could see that. Yeah,

286
00:21:40.079 --> 00:21:45.279
talk about it. Uh. In
general, I am not completely blown away

287
00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:48.920
yet again, I'm not even down
in season one. Yeah, I think

288
00:21:48.920 --> 00:21:53.960
it's good. I think uh it. I like the way it's shot much

289
00:21:55.000 --> 00:21:57.079
better. I think it's more artistically
shot than Breaking Bad. I know Breaking

290
00:21:57.119 --> 00:22:03.319
Bad there was a there were a
lot of cinematic choices I didn't always love

291
00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:04.960
or know if they were on purpose
or if they were just kind of still

292
00:22:06.039 --> 00:22:11.359
rookies in certain seasons. Gilligan is
not a rookie. Been doing this for

293
00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:15.720
a long time, I know,
but what episodes yet? But he wasn't

294
00:22:15.759 --> 00:22:22.359
directing those? Is like did I
thought he had Cranson on one. I

295
00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:26.240
think that makes sense. But like
you could tell his craft was much more

296
00:22:26.440 --> 00:22:32.599
expertly honed when him and Peter Gould
started a break better call Saul. I

297
00:22:32.640 --> 00:22:37.200
love Saul or Jimmy. I'm learning
more about Mike. Okay, here's the

298
00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:41.000
thing. I'm surprised. I usually
really just don't like prequels. I don't

299
00:22:41.160 --> 00:22:42.839
feel like the whole prequel thing is
played out. I don't care about people's

300
00:22:42.839 --> 00:22:45.799
backgrounds. I don't need an origin
story for any person. I think the

301
00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:49.960
show is doing it very well because
the stuff that is calling forward to Breaking

302
00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:55.640
Bad is really economic. It's not
beating me over the head every five seconds.

303
00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:59.559
But I, like I, I
oftentimes have to remind myself it's a

304
00:22:59.599 --> 00:23:02.799
prequel, because the action in the
show in and of itself is interesting.

305
00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:06.119
Yeah. I just the thing that
initially turned me off was that I thought

306
00:23:06.160 --> 00:23:07.119
it was going to beat me over
the head with that, because in the

307
00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:11.119
first two episodes it's like, oh, he met Mike in the in the

308
00:23:11.160 --> 00:23:12.799
tollbooth. Oh here's Tuco he showed
up, And I thought it was just

309
00:23:12.839 --> 00:23:15.680
gonna be constant, like hey,
remember this guy. Here he is,

310
00:23:15.799 --> 00:23:18.480
but like remember this guy. First
two episodes are the only ones that kind

311
00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:22.640
of do that, and honestly,
everything that happened, it gets better about

312
00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:26.119
everything as it goes on, and
it all feels very natural, where it's

313
00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:29.559
like, oh, of course,
like Mike and this character would have cross

314
00:23:29.640 --> 00:23:33.640
paths in the same area and their
line of work, and like it's it

315
00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:37.200
gets better every season, I believe. Yeah, I just we just finished

316
00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:41.480
the episode tonight where we kind of
saw this coming, but he finds out

317
00:23:41.559 --> 00:23:47.440
that his brother was the one who
told Hamlin the douchebag the last did not

318
00:23:47.519 --> 00:23:48.880
hire him. Yeah, or he
has been telling him his whole life not

319
00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:52.480
to hire him. That's a good
arc, though there's like a lot that's

320
00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:57.039
being built right now. I will
agree with you. I actually think I

321
00:23:57.440 --> 00:24:03.319
stopped watching or Call Saul maybe two
or three times. Each of those were

322
00:24:03.359 --> 00:24:07.799
the first season because it's slow and
I don't actually give a shit about his

323
00:24:08.279 --> 00:24:14.680
lawyer troubles. When you build that
foundation, it gets so much more interesting

324
00:24:14.799 --> 00:24:19.279
later when stuff does go down at
the firm, or he falls in love

325
00:24:19.400 --> 00:24:22.359
or whatever it is that happens to
him. So right now, I will

326
00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:26.720
agree with you. I think it
is a bit magoo, but I think

327
00:24:26.759 --> 00:24:30.759
if you I agree, But I
think it's that you're at the place where

328
00:24:30.759 --> 00:24:37.319
it's the hardest to keep going.
It infinitely gets better every season in Yeah,

329
00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:41.279
you mentioned like arcs, and like
every character seems to have a really

330
00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:45.480
good arg Every fucking character has a
really good story to tell, and it

331
00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:48.920
has to start with a foundation of
every character, which is why I think

332
00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:55.720
season one is so because nobody's nothing
really dramatic happens in season one. No

333
00:24:56.160 --> 00:25:02.799
Yeah, ten episodes in I really
don't get Kim seems ancillary and like right

334
00:25:02.839 --> 00:25:04.960
now I'm writing right totally. She
seems like I'm like, okay, she's

335
00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:08.559
just moving the plot forward for Jimmy. I think I actually got mad at

336
00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:14.279
season one for making her such a
like, uh, what do you kind

337
00:25:14.319 --> 00:25:19.119
of what you're saying? But she's
an uninteresting character and she like she's helping

338
00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:26.200
him and she doesn't have her own
autonomy, and uh there is movement,

339
00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:29.200
so like, yeah, you stick
with it, Yeah, I with you.

340
00:25:29.960 --> 00:25:34.039
Sired casting of Chuck his brother Michael
McKean from The Spinal Tap and SNL.

341
00:25:34.119 --> 00:25:38.200
And here's the lead singer Spinal Tap
and that SNL during a couple of

342
00:25:38.200 --> 00:25:41.680
bad eighties years, just you know, long time improv comedian. But like

343
00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:45.519
they almost resemble each other, like
you could buy them as brothers. And

344
00:25:45.599 --> 00:25:48.400
it's interesting because you know, Oden
Kerk used to be a writer and performer

345
00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:52.319
on SNL and so they both Like
I thought it was just such an interesting

346
00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:56.240
like those two guys make so much
sense as brothers in such a funny show.

347
00:25:56.720 --> 00:26:00.720
Yeah, such a noted comedy.
Kirk is like even though this is

348
00:26:00.759 --> 00:26:03.640
not a comedy, like he is
funny and like he is the right pick

349
00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:07.599
back and breaking it and now as
that kind of smarmy like always got an

350
00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:11.640
angle on something guy like he is
the perfect casting for that show. Both

351
00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:15.799
this and El Camino are way funny
or sorry, el Camino was way funnier

352
00:26:15.839 --> 00:26:19.079
than I remember, like that dark
humor the post. I've watched that.

353
00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:22.160
I don't remember a whole lot about
it, but I remember kind of liking

354
00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:26.079
it but not loving it. It's
more of a very focused action movie,

355
00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:30.200
which I liked. I went into
it expecting, Okay, they're just gonna

356
00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:32.799
wrap up all of Jesse's loose ends, but like you could tell, it's

357
00:26:32.839 --> 00:26:36.119
like, hey, we realized Jesse
got fucked for most of Break the Bad.

358
00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:41.240
Let's give him like a at least
satisfying end to it. Which is

359
00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:45.039
good, but it's funny as hell, but yeah, so far better call.

360
00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:48.839
Chuck is a great character, especially
now that he's done his like heel

361
00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:52.640
turn sort of and told Jimmy that
he was the one blocking him from getting

362
00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:55.759
hired the whole time. He's not
a real lawyer, his his struggles weren't

363
00:26:55.799 --> 00:27:00.240
as bad as his mine were,
so like brotherly like Thees are so good

364
00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:07.359
his his whole uh like agoraphobia meets
fear of electricities. At first, It's

365
00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:11.839
like so like odd at first,
but then as it went on, I'm

366
00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:17.519
like, man, this this this
character, it works for him, Like,

367
00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:19.519
yeah, I don't know, it's
uh, it's good so far.

368
00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:23.319
But again I'm like, it's season
one. I'm not expecting it to get

369
00:27:23.319 --> 00:27:26.839
to like better than breaking bad level
that I've heard a lot of people say,

370
00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:30.160
but like I'm we're definitely I'd say
we're hooked. I think you're over

371
00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:33.960
the hump because I stopped watching initially
when it aired with the second episode,

372
00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:37.359
and then the years later when I
heard some of the good things about it,

373
00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:40.599
I got the sixth episode and stopped, and then the years later I

374
00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:41.599
started it again. I think once
you get over that hump, and I

375
00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:45.680
think that that hump is just season
one. I think I think you're in

376
00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:49.240
the clear. The whole plot line
with the treasurer and his wife, I

377
00:27:49.400 --> 00:27:52.759
felt like they could have done that
in two episodes. I don't remember that

378
00:27:53.359 --> 00:27:57.880
they have no idea the family and
they had out in the wood. He

379
00:27:57.920 --> 00:28:00.920
was in buzzling money from the count
yep okay, right city, Yeah,

380
00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:03.400
I think they could have done that
in two episodes, but I like what

381
00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:07.640
that established in that he had Mike
sneak in to steal the money, so

382
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:11.960
they had no other recourse. So
like, that's the that's now to me,

383
00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:14.440
the most appealing part of the show. It's like, oh right,

384
00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:18.200
it's a law procedural in many ways, but it's dark humor and also though

385
00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:22.960
like he's not afraid to do criminals. Rather, he's not above doing criminal

386
00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:26.599
stuff to advance his low career.
That's like the I feel like the crux

387
00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:33.759
of every great drama is someone's two
inter warring lives, like Sopranos, family

388
00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:37.759
versus family, Barry the hit man
versus Barry the actor, like mad Men,

389
00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:45.240
Dendreper versus Dick Whitman. I'm what
mother versus comedian and missus masel So

390
00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:49.039
that's where that's coming in now too. But I think they're already doing a

391
00:28:49.079 --> 00:28:55.359
lot of cool, nuanced things with
Jimmy that I'm interested in seeing. Isn't

392
00:28:55.400 --> 00:28:59.119
that Kettleman side story? Also,
how they introduced Nacho. Doesn't he somehow

393
00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:03.680
entered the picture with Voss from far
CREDT three that's Voss? Oh shit,

394
00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:06.960
I didn't realize that that's awesome.
Well, because vass, isn't it Trevor

395
00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:08.480
from GTA five's and it breathed,
yeah, oh so far I've seen him

396
00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:11.960
a couple of times. Yeah,
yeah, wow, Okay, So yeah,

397
00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:14.880
Nacho doesn't get involved because of that
treasurer thing. Right, I forget

398
00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:21.359
how he initially came in because he
met Jimmy when him and Tucco and company

399
00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:25.599
brought them out to the desert.
And then right, I forget how he

400
00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:30.279
figured out that saw. I think
he just had heard that the Kettlemans were

401
00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:34.000
seeking counsel and went to solve Jimmy. He then went to Jimmy to say,

402
00:29:34.039 --> 00:29:37.000
do you have any info on where
they hid the money? I'm gonna

403
00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:40.319
I'm gonna boost it, right,
okay, and then yeah, and then

404
00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:42.839
Nacho got arrested. But yeah,
so between like Mike and Nacho and all

405
00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:47.119
that, that side story does like
introduce some people into the fray. Oh

406
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:49.480
my god, this episode, this
passed episode. Keep in mind, I'm

407
00:29:49.480 --> 00:29:53.240
a huge fan of Mark Prochs from
like the Good Morning America, a spoof

408
00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:57.319
he did from What We Do in
the Shadows the Office and then A man

409
00:29:57.359 --> 00:30:00.440
and I both love what we do
in the shadows. I know if you'd

410
00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:02.559
met him at her if that was
season two, I wasn't gonna say anything.

411
00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:06.240
Just watched that episode because that's where
I saw Trevor too. But he's

412
00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:08.599
rounding the corner and you see his
like sockenny sneakers at first with a huge

413
00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:11.359
kakis and like, who what actor
they get? I was expecting maybe Gus

414
00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:14.880
Frain's gonna get out of the van
or something, but it comes up.

415
00:30:14.920 --> 00:30:18.640
He's like, hey, guys,
are you I'm assuming you're the help for

416
00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:22.440
this job. We were losing it. He pops off everywhere. Yeah,

417
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:27.559
he's a good actor as well,
like he kind of unfortunately will likely be

418
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:36.640
typecast is a little Weasley forever.
But he has a good he has a

419
00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:41.960
good edge with that character that's different. So it's that's an enjoyable show.

420
00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:49.480
I started an absolute train wrack of
a show called vander Pump Rules. Have

421
00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:53.799
you ever heard of that reference?
I don't know what it is. It's

422
00:30:53.880 --> 00:31:00.160
trash on steroids. Oh okay,
Amanda's cousin loves it. I think it's

423
00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:06.599
an ironic love is it reality?
Yes, but I'm sure they tweak it.

424
00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:11.079
But yes, I don't know anything
about I don't know anything about this

425
00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:12.559
world, so you have to understand, like, I'm very new to it.

426
00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:18.559
But someone sold me as like Drama
City if you want to like watch

427
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:22.480
something that's filled with drama and everyone's
fighting all the time, which I usually

428
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:26.359
don't like. I actually don't even
watch reality. But I was like,

429
00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:30.839
I'm trying to work out in the
basement. I don't even like drama.

430
00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:38.079
Shut up, Mike, I'm trying
to check that little bit. I'm trying

431
00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:41.680
to work out in the basement three
times a week. And a really good

432
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:45.920
way to get me to go down
there is if I have a show to

433
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:48.200
watch that I'm only allowed to watch
when I work out. The vander Pump

434
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:53.400
Rules is my workout show, and
that see, it's like something nice I

435
00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:56.240
can be like, Oh, I
can treat myself to like thirty to sixty

436
00:31:56.279 --> 00:32:00.440
minutes of the show as long as
I'm on my bike. Anyway. Uh.

437
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:04.920
Yeah, it's a lady who was
from one of the Real Housewives.

438
00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:07.440
I've never seen any real housewives,
so I don't know which one or who

439
00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:13.440
she is really. I've never I
don't even know what a housewife is.

440
00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:19.000
Her bigger name is Lisa vander Pump, and in addition to like being on

441
00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:22.559
the show, she owns a restaurant. Vander Pump Rules is her restaurant,

442
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:27.119
and it's all the waiters and waitresses
like having sex with each other and then

443
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:31.079
fighting about it and it's so juicy. It's crazy. How now, Okay?

444
00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:35.480
I feel like on the spectrum of
like reality shows, in terms of

445
00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:38.440
like authenticity, you've got like those
old VH one like Rock of Love type

446
00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:42.839
things on these super produced, fake
bullshit ones, and then you've got like

447
00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:45.599
Terrace House on the other words,
like wow, that's actually seems pretty authentic.

448
00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:49.720
Like where does this lie the most
authentic? Which house? Sex house?

449
00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:54.319
Sex house? I would say it's
closer to sex house because it's actually

450
00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:57.880
very close to sex house because all
they do is have sex with each other.

451
00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:00.720
But I think the idea is that
like there's no rules, nobody gets

452
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:07.400
voted out of the castle, there's
no host, it's just a camera that's

453
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:12.720
in this restaurant. Uh, and
Lisa vander Pump will be like, my

454
00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:15.720
waitresses and my bartenders are always screwing. I don't know what I'm gonna do

455
00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:20.440
with them, and then it just
shows them and they're like, we hate

456
00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:24.200
Katie so much. We think that
Stacy slept with Jackson. We're pretty sure

457
00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:28.440
about it. And then uh,
like four episodes later it turns out that

458
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:30.480
they did and they lied about it, and everyone's like, that's slut and

459
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:35.160
it's just great and that's it.
It has no value, it has there's

460
00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:39.480
no value to society. It's just
great, like working out and just mindlessly

461
00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:45.400
like taking something. Yeah, I'm
I am riding my bike and I'm drinking

462
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:50.759
my little glass of water and I'm
just like, uh, you gossiping bitch,

463
00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:52.599
like yeah, get her, you
know, and they're just constantly picking

464
00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:55.680
on someone for whatever reason. Then
they're just like, we don't like her

465
00:33:55.759 --> 00:34:00.440
anymore. And then they just they
they just bully this person. And I

466
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:04.759
observe it as a third party,
uh, and then I forget about it

467
00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:07.640
because it's not important. But yeah, it's it's great to pass the time.

468
00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:10.440
Nice. Do you think you especially
like it because of your time in

469
00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:19.199
the service industry? I I think
so. I mean it, there's much

470
00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:22.000
most of it is not about their
serving, like it takes it's funny,

471
00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:27.199
it takes place in a restaurant,
But at no point is it like I

472
00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:36.239
forgot the order at table forty seven. It's always because she under we have

473
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:44.960
to eighty six chicken crispies. It's
always because somebody's somebody else. It's always

474
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:49.960
sex related, Like it's always because
somebody's flirting with somebody else's boyfriend, or

475
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:55.800
there's a rumor going around that somebody
the new girl slept with somebody's ex,

476
00:34:55.880 --> 00:35:00.119
and like it's upsetting everyone. But
there's really good twists and turns in it

477
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:05.360
that I guess for you know,
a reality show are pretty juicy where you're

478
00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:07.000
just like, I can't believe that
they lied to each other for like an

479
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:12.599
entire season. It's very good.
Yeah, it's absolute garbage and I usually

480
00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:16.079
don't uh partake, and so it's
been a really nice, enjoyable part for

481
00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:21.239
me. But similarly to what you're
going through, Mike, I'm on season

482
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:25.280
two. I just started this journey. Apparently vander Pump has like ten seasons,

483
00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:30.480
which sounds jus crazy because it's the
same people more or less. Like

484
00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:34.159
it's like the same group. So
for like ten seasons, these people are

485
00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:37.679
like sleeping with each other and getting
mad at each other. I don't understand

486
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:42.559
where it's gonna go you get a
whole journey, Mike, where like crazy

487
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:49.599
shit happens in your show, like
characters go through massive changes, and uh,

488
00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:52.679
you know, not everybody makes it. And it's just like in this

489
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:57.599
one, it's not like Lisa's gonna
die. They're just gonna keep having sex

490
00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:00.519
with each other. So I don't
understand how to stay entertained, but I'm

491
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:07.320
gonna trys. Have either of you
watched The Curse at all? The Nathan

492
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:10.599
Fielders show, No, not yet
with them a stone. Yeah, we

493
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:14.320
subscribed to Showtime just to check that
out, because like, you know,

494
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:19.199
I just I can't. I can't
be bothered to subscribe to show this anyone

495
00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:22.000
else I wouldn't do it. But
Nathan Fielder and the joy that managed not

496
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:24.199
just in this stuff, not just
Nathan for you in the rehearsal, but

497
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:28.280
also with the stuff he's executive produced, like how to John Wilson everything.

498
00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:32.360
It's like literally anything Nathan Fielder's name
is attached to I have loved without reservation.

499
00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:36.079
So it's like, all right,
this is him doing scripted stuff,

500
00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:38.599
which is really weird to me because
I associate him with not scripted stuff.

501
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:43.440
It is weird, and we watched
one episode and we're like, what the

502
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:46.159
fuck is this and we weren't really
gonna continue with it. And then like

503
00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:50.079
a day or two later, both
Bonk and I had realized we were both

504
00:36:50.119 --> 00:36:52.039
still like thinking about it and like
this is so weird and we just have

505
00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:54.719
to see where this goes. And
we're like five or six episodes in now.

506
00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:57.840
I think there's like ten. I
think they're about to do the finale,

507
00:36:58.199 --> 00:37:00.719
and I don't know if it's going
anywhere. It's just got the weirdest

508
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:04.880
fucking tone. It's funny, but
I don't even know how to you know.

509
00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:07.079
It's also Benny Safty. It's one
of the Safty brothers did like Uncut

510
00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:10.440
Gems and everything. If ever there
was like a duo that would make something

511
00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:15.639
very odd, it's Benny Safty and
Nathan Fielder. Yeah. I haven't seen

512
00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:17.239
anything like it, but like all
the performances, like Safti's in it,

513
00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:22.360
Fielders and Emma Stones and it.
How did he get Emma Stone to be

514
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:27.280
in it? Yes, I'm gonna
be honest with you, Like he's genius,

515
00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:31.679
but she's Emma Stone. They're married
in the in the show. Again,

516
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:38.239
how did he do it? Uh? Well, I feel like that

517
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:42.400
happens a lot. Like Susan Sarandon's
son was super into him, so she

518
00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:46.400
did that Conan bit with him or
something that's Haden's Yeah, Oh, okay,

519
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:50.599
I don't know. You've seen the
Susan Sarandon and Nathan Fielder thing they

520
00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:52.360
did on Conan, right, was
the one whatever? There was the Kimmel

521
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:55.480
one where he like prepared the entire
thing is that we were talking about.

522
00:37:57.199 --> 00:38:00.800
No oh, if you haven't look
up Nathan Fielder, Susan's random Okay talk

523
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:02.280
show, they go on and I'm
not gonna spoil the bit, but it's

524
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:06.800
pretty good. But apparently her son
was super into him. That's how Danny

525
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:09.360
DeVito came across Sonny apparently, like
I don't know, I'm wondering if it's

526
00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:13.360
one of those things, but like
also he's got a lot of money to

527
00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:17.280
throw around these days, so like
if Emma was available, well, I

528
00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:22.039
guess HBO game that like that deal
for like three different shows or something like

529
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:28.760
this, like hot like director not
hot, but like like that is on

530
00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:35.840
fire, noted hot director smoking hot. Uh. I just feel like she's

531
00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:42.840
absolute award winning. She's won like
Academy Awards, like I think she just

532
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:49.039
freaking won like another golden globe.
Like she's this She's an incredibly renowned actress.

533
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:53.199
She's in blockbuster Triple A movies all
the time. She probably has her

534
00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:57.719
pick of the litter. And she
was just in Poor Things, which I

535
00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:00.840
haven't seen but I would love to. I've heard it's phenomenal all and to

536
00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:06.199
me, this was like one of
those things where it's like I've Poor Things

537
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:08.159
is my year. It's what it's
taking up everything, and I have a

538
00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:13.079
little bit of time, and I
I'm gonna slot this in. I mean,

539
00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:15.880
both Safty and Fielder are both like
kind of hot commodities. You know,

540
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:20.039
they haven't really missed, So I
feel like there would be a certain

541
00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:24.199
amount of prestige to be associated with
the show. Doesn't miss about three people

542
00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:29.599
who like all their show is like
pristine. You know why. It's probably

543
00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:32.119
been in some stinks. I think
realized watching the show. I have not

544
00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:37.920
seen a ton of heer stuff.
Let me see that easy. Oh I

545
00:39:38.239 --> 00:39:40.199
forgot she's in super Bad. Yeah, okay, so I've seen that.

546
00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:49.199
Crazy. I mean, all those
are like extremely renowned, like they're the

547
00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:52.079
people talk about them. What is
she most known for. Because I watching

548
00:39:52.119 --> 00:39:53.960
them, I was like, why
when did she kind of drop? Probably

549
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:59.400
was huge, that's not when she
showed up. That's different. That's like

550
00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:02.199
her biggest super Bad was her first? Wasn't super Bad to break out?

551
00:40:02.440 --> 00:40:06.159
She's very young in that? Yeah
she was. Also, wasn't she in

552
00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:12.280
What's the One Zombie? Was that? Zombieland Zombie Land? Yea, oh

553
00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:17.000
I saw that? Okay, Zombie
Double Tap? She plays Wichita. Yeah,

554
00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:21.119
okay, the Double Tap is the
sequel to Zombie Land, isn't it.

555
00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:23.039
Oh? She was in Birdman.
Oh yeah, she was Michael.

556
00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:30.400
She does the voice of Amanda in
Sleeping Dogs. What the video game?

557
00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:37.000
That's not what? I wow,
weird d That's okay, that's a TV

558
00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:40.400
series. Nevermind, that's not the
drive that I know. Huh Drive three,

559
00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:44.760
Driver three. She was like a
spider Man. That seems big.

560
00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:49.480
Yeah, she was a Mary Jane. Okay, I remember that. Yeah,

561
00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:51.920
she's big, she's huge, but
La La Land. I would say

562
00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:57.599
it was her like Oscar moment,
even though they didn't. Oh wait,

563
00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:00.039
I think she was the blonde and
spider Man. I might get mad people

564
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:04.920
mad at me for that. Gwen. I think she was Gwen's Stacy,

565
00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:08.599
I'm pretty sure, which is funny
because she's she's a redhead most of the

566
00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:13.840
time, but in The Spider Man
she's blonde, So I'm I can't remember

567
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:15.800
now she's funny. I don't remember
what her character is titled, but I

568
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:22.719
remember she was blonde because she was
hot. She was apparently she's in a

569
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:25.559
lot of good stuff. I'm just
saying, well, like she's awesome in

570
00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:29.599
the show, like she is,
like all three of them are just excellent

571
00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:31.760
in the show. I am not
shocked. I know that she's going to

572
00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:37.679
be good in it. I just
I remain that he's lucky duck to obtain

573
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:44.199
her. I think that, uh, she's he's batting above average. Just

574
00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:49.239
what I'm saying, he's uh,
you know she had ten Yeah, that's

575
00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:52.639
a that's wild, So good for
him. Yeah, everyone's very unlikable in

576
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:55.679
that show, like every if you're
somebody who needs like a likable protagonist or

577
00:41:55.719 --> 00:42:00.159
something, like, everybody's super unlikable
in The Curse. Because she's so that's

578
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:01.880
a good actress, you know,
I bet she can play a real bitch.

579
00:42:05.079 --> 00:42:07.760
Whereas Nathan Fielder, I question if
he's a good actor. I just

580
00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:13.760
think he's an unlikable weirdo. He's
unlikeable. I just think he's weird.

581
00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:16.199
Like you don't really ever see like
behind the veil, like is there a

582
00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:21.400
normal guy there. There's that one
clip from Nathan for you where the guy's

583
00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:25.000
talking about drinking his grandson's pea and
you see Nathan break and then it's like,

584
00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:29.159
Okay, he does realize how fucking
funny all this is. Yeah,

585
00:42:29.159 --> 00:42:31.599
he's just a guy who knows what
he's doing is fucking hilarious. Okay,

586
00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:37.000
Yeah, that's the like super humanizing
moment for me. Yeah. I think

587
00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:40.320
every once in a while, even
if he's not breaking, there was every

588
00:42:40.360 --> 00:42:44.719
once in a while there's this thing
that he does when he knows that he

589
00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:47.480
can say something funny, and he'll
be like interviewing someone and you'll see it

590
00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:53.000
and he'll do like this, Oh
yeah, he'll kind of smart, not

591
00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:58.639
really, but I can I can
see the sparkle in his eyes where he's

592
00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:02.199
like, I'm gonna fucking say something
so funny. After this, he was

593
00:43:02.320 --> 00:43:07.480
interviewed by someone I forget what this
was for, and the guy was like,

594
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:09.320
I've always been a fan of your
work, and Nathan was like name

595
00:43:09.440 --> 00:43:13.639
your favorite piece that I was in. And the guy was like, no,

596
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:15.719
no, no, I like them
all. And Nathan goes, but

597
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:20.960
name me your favorite, and the
guy goes, don't do this to me.

598
00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:23.559
I'm saying, I like everything that
you've ever made. And Nathan goes,

599
00:43:24.239 --> 00:43:30.320
name one. The guy is like
fucking melting in his chair, and

600
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:35.039
you can tell Nathan's like, I
fucking got you, you little bitch,

601
00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:37.719
like he loves it. He loves
to eat people for breakfast, like he

602
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:43.880
enjoys that. I remember. I
understand people who like can't like, whether

603
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:47.719
it's like something scripted like Curb or
something just awkward and reel like Nathan for

604
00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:52.280
You that like can't handle watching like
awkward situations like that, or the rehearsal,

605
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:57.719
like I feed off that. Like
every fucking Nathan for You episode,

606
00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:00.559
I'm just in delight from beginning to
end, and I can't imagine not I

607
00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:05.400
feel I feel bad for anyone who
can't enjoy the stuff he does. I

608
00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:08.719
enjoy that stuff very much. I
can definitely imagine why people don't like it,

609
00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:17.280
Like it's it's about finding comedy and
discomfort and awkwardness. No, not

610
00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:22.440
at all. Yet He's a he's
a magician with it. Yeah, I'll

611
00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:24.719
watch, I might watch True Free. We're gonna keep going back. All

612
00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:28.920
I watched, but then you have
to you have to download stuff. I

613
00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:32.039
didn't like saltburn. I like that, is that a show? Movie?

614
00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:37.760
Movie? It's a movie, and
it's like the same trope that everything happens

615
00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:40.760
where it's like there's a nerdy guy
and there's a bunch of rich people and

616
00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:44.840
he's like, I hope I can
join them in their elite status, and

617
00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:47.440
then he does, and then fucked
up stuff happens. It's totally caddy show.

618
00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:51.239
Okay, I will Yeah, Mary, I'm I'm largely on board with

619
00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:54.320
you. I think it's hell but
I think it but I think the second

620
00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:59.360
half like plays with that to a
to an extent that I don't know whether

621
00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:05.079
another like opulent or rich voyeurism movie
has. Yeah, Oh, I think

622
00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:07.599
you're right. I think it it
toys with the concept of it and then

623
00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:14.000
it like I don't uh without it's
hard to get into it without spoiling it.

624
00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:16.320
But there's there's a point where I'm
like, you've lost yourself. You

625
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:22.239
don't know what this is anymore,
uh, and you are now just uh

626
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:28.320
it's almost like the writer was really
enjoying themselves and then they started huffing paint

627
00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:31.559
in like Q four. At some
point they were like, I have the

628
00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:36.920
best fucking way to end this,
and then they decided on that even though

629
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:40.480
like nobody, nobody stopped them,
and they just went ape shit with this

630
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:45.119
film. It's entertaining, I'll tell
you that. And it's filled with hot

631
00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:49.840
people. If you want to watch
hot people like go down on each other

632
00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:52.960
and drink a lot of booze.
Oh oh, drink bath come yeah,

633
00:45:53.480 --> 00:46:01.400
all right, that's very intense,
but and suck the ground, go for

634
00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:09.400
it, like, enjoy yourselves.
I'm just all spoilers, like genuine,

635
00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:14.000
that is a genuine You should not
have said that. I should have gone

636
00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:16.760
that far that. Those are all
spoilers. I think we should bleep those

637
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:22.159
out. No it's not awesome,
but those are like I think those are

638
00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:27.360
like things that make you if you, yeah, write that down. These

639
00:46:27.400 --> 00:46:30.119
are just things that I think will
make people be like that was crazy,

640
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:34.760
right, but like to what end? To what end? I think it

641
00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:38.679
veers pretty far into shock value,
Like yeah, we're gonna do this a

642
00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:42.400
bit too often for my taste.
I still enjoyed watching the movie, though

643
00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:45.880
I didn't see Promising Young Woman,
which Emerald Fannel also directed. Oh my

644
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:50.039
god, it's very similar. I
think Promising Young Woman actually is a very

645
00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:52.360
similar curvature, which is just like
it's on the rails. It's on the

646
00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:57.440
rails, it's on the rails.
Uh black mirror episode, you know what

647
00:46:57.519 --> 00:47:00.639
I mean, like where you're just
like, all right, you've gotten so

648
00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:02.239
far at this point. But what
I the more I think back of the

649
00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:05.480
movie, the more I'm like,
I agree with you. I think I

650
00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:09.039
think they do cool things to play
with the tropes of like the geek coming

651
00:47:09.079 --> 00:47:15.039
into the opulent like rich voyeurism world. And I do think that movie several

652
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:21.280
cases goes for shock value over something
that truly works for a character. But

653
00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:25.480
I still enjoyed watching it, but
it was entertaining. I agree, Dan,

654
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:28.960
you should watch Saltburn. I think
you'll hate it. I think I

655
00:47:29.039 --> 00:47:30.480
think Bunk watch it and was not
super hot on it, if I remember

656
00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:34.719
right, But she did poor things, brought port things earlier, and in

657
00:47:34.840 --> 00:47:37.360
Bunk loved that. I want to
see that. I chose to see The

658
00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:43.559
Boy and the heron the New Miyazaki
this weekend. Instead. If I could,

659
00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:52.239
I would have seen see you monster. If I could, I would

660
00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:58.000
have seen both. I would have
loved to see both. And when I

661
00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:01.320
got out of the Boy in the
heron, there was a line out the

662
00:48:01.360 --> 00:48:06.599
door for the bathroom as usual,
so I was standing in line and a

663
00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:09.599
lady was in front of me and
she turned around. She goes, did

664
00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:14.199
you just get out of pore things
too? And she said it like that,

665
00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:15.559
and I went no, I saw
the boy in the hairn and she

666
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:20.760
was like what and it just like
turned around and didn't engage with me for

667
00:48:20.840 --> 00:48:22.719
the rest of the bathroom. She
was just like, what is that?

668
00:48:24.039 --> 00:48:29.960
So I don't think it's transcendent,
right, like mi Azaki is prolific.

669
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:34.320
But for a lot of Americans,
everyone's like what is that? Is that

670
00:48:34.639 --> 00:48:47.800
the new Pixar. It's like,
no, this is very different. I

671
00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:53.159
saw Ferrari and I don't know why, but for like the first hour plus

672
00:48:53.400 --> 00:49:00.320
I was thinking of Mike Maharty.
Why was the character really it was the

673
00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:04.079
main character really annoying. It was
something about like Adam Driver, like you

674
00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:07.480
know, they're living in Europe and
he's talking about like fancy cars and stuff.

675
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:08.800
Something about it was like this is
like, there's gonna be like a

676
00:49:08.840 --> 00:49:12.800
Mike Maharty movie at some point about
it. But it's just replaced cars with

677
00:49:12.920 --> 00:49:15.639
wine. Uh, and that's what
this is gonna be. And that I

678
00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:17.719
was, I don't know anything about
car no, no, I was,

679
00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:21.960
I was replacing cars with wine in
my head, and I was like,

680
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:25.360
we do that. This is just
a Mike Maharty biopic. That's such a

681
00:49:25.519 --> 00:49:34.039
boring film entertaining. And then there's
stuff that happens later on, and then

682
00:49:34.039 --> 00:49:36.360
we were like, oh, okay, this picked up and then I liked

683
00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:38.400
the movie by the end. But
I don't know. She died in a

684
00:49:38.599 --> 00:49:46.760
freak wine accident. Everyone that was
an explosion at the factory. Uh,

685
00:49:47.719 --> 00:49:52.519
his wife got a cork to the
face. It don't kill my wife in

686
00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:55.800
this scenario. Sorry, I just
I did. I did. What do

687
00:49:55.880 --> 00:50:00.679
you call it? The wife and
the fridge trope? Your by of your

688
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:05.679
Flying there's a couple of fridge tropes
right in Indiana Jones and the or is

689
00:50:05.719 --> 00:50:07.800
that just is it a trope?
If it was just one stupid thing in

690
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:09.519
one movie like Jones getting in the
fridge, that's not a trope. But

691
00:50:10.079 --> 00:50:15.679
that happens over and over and over
again. Right, fridge trope is a

692
00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:22.599
very specific trope of your wife dying, and it it motivates the protagonist to

693
00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:27.840
be like to do the protagonist's job
at the expense of their dead wife trope.

694
00:50:27.880 --> 00:50:32.440
It's so, who is this?
Who's this character to someone I know?

695
00:50:34.719 --> 00:50:46.880
I know, probably someone I know
statistically and only now now get mad

696
00:50:46.920 --> 00:50:53.599
that g T A you have to
play a female prosagonist. There's a woman

697
00:50:53.760 --> 00:51:01.599
and JT sex goes back to five
fuck this five. Yeah, you could

698
00:51:01.639 --> 00:51:07.480
play three dudes, each harder than
the next. I'll be dead in the

699
00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:15.800
ground before I play a woman,
No, I I yeah, I would

700
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:21.400
live in Europe. Yeah, there's
just something about like the fins and Europe

701
00:51:21.639 --> 00:51:22.360
and all this stuff, And I
was like, this is like a Mike

702
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:27.800
Mahardy movie. I know, that's
what I was thinking of you. I

703
00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:34.159
like Europe. I like God,
you people listening since episode one have fully

704
00:51:34.840 --> 00:51:38.519
seen the entire arc of YouTube.
I think still by the time we started

705
00:51:38.519 --> 00:51:43.159
the show, thought I was putting
on airs about the thing certain things I

706
00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:45.519
like. No, I've known you
for a long time. I've known it,

707
00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:50.239
genuine I think. I guess we
haven't been doing the show nearly as

708
00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:52.719
long. Now, that's yeah,
I guess, But there are still people

709
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:55.719
I think who like, I know, I don't know about cars, and

710
00:51:55.800 --> 00:51:59.400
I'm not. I don't think I'm
a douche, but I'm definitely the douchiest

711
00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:01.400
of us three. We've talked about
that you're not a juice, but somebody,

712
00:52:01.519 --> 00:52:05.079
like walking through a room, if
you were talking about certain things,

713
00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:07.960
might think, like you hear that
douchebag. Like anyone who knows you,

714
00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:10.880
I think doesn't think you're a douche. But if you just if this was

715
00:52:10.920 --> 00:52:14.559
playing in a car, if the
Buyer escape cast was playing in a car

716
00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:17.480
and certain things you brought up at
length were playing in the car, that

717
00:52:17.559 --> 00:52:20.800
bag, What the fuck is this
here listening to with this douchebag? But

718
00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:23.519
anyone who knows you knows you're not. I appreciate that. Yeah, I'm

719
00:52:23.559 --> 00:52:30.000
not a douche. I'm on the
spec comes out. I'm very obsessed with

720
00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:35.320
certain things. On a zero to
ten douche spectrum, who's a ten?

721
00:52:35.960 --> 00:52:39.639
Oh, that's a great question,
elon, No, I would even put

722
00:52:39.679 --> 00:52:44.760
him in. No, Who's like, who's that guy that just got arrested

723
00:52:44.800 --> 00:52:49.199
for trafficking people? And he is
always like, yes he strikes. He's

724
00:52:49.239 --> 00:52:52.400
like numbered, He's ten douche scale. Elon's like nine one five. Maybe

725
00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:57.159
Elon's got to be maxed out.
Although, yeah, gotta be high in

726
00:52:57.239 --> 00:53:01.559
those new cars. He is a
douche andrew Tate for sure, but Entretate's

727
00:53:01.599 --> 00:53:07.639
now like an actual like global Felon. Yeah, yeah, yeah, those

728
00:53:07.679 --> 00:53:12.599
are also just bad people. Is
there a good example of a douche that's

729
00:53:12.679 --> 00:53:16.480
not criminal? Yeah, they're just
douche he's the most Yeah, okay,

730
00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:22.119
a non criminal douchebag that's just sucks
or are they always coming a great question?

731
00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:27.280
No, not all dutch Bags are
criminals, And I wouldn't say all

732
00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:31.159
criminals are douchebags. Justin Trudeau has
he been? I don't think he's really

733
00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:36.239
douchey is I'm going to google biggest
douchebags, do it? I hope they

734
00:53:36.280 --> 00:53:40.119
don't die this year. Well if
they're on the biggest douchebag list, Oh

735
00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:46.599
right, Well, we're also trying
to establish that not intrinsically is a douchebag,

736
00:53:46.800 --> 00:53:50.480
Like, oh, I suppose it
is a bad person. But like

737
00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:55.800
when we're saying that, Mike has
you know that there's douchey tendencies, but

738
00:53:55.960 --> 00:54:00.960
he's not a douchebag. I just
want to not associate my with negative things.

739
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:06.440
Unfortunately, I am into a couple
things that douchey people sit into on

740
00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:09.039
a surface level to try to be
interesting. Okay, okay, okay,

741
00:54:09.079 --> 00:54:15.039
here non criminal douchebags, and let's
like listen, I don't know everything polygon

742
00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:21.760
dot COM's list of I don't know
enough about him to know if there's anything

743
00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:29.719
criminal or not. But like a
Logan Paul, Yeah, do you think

744
00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:35.599
he knows more about wine than you? Mike, No, I don't.

745
00:54:36.199 --> 00:54:38.159
But it's the way is Logan the
boxer is they're both both him and his

746
00:54:38.239 --> 00:54:42.599
brother are a boxers. They're the
same person. Yeah, oh god,

747
00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:45.079
I've never seen them in the same
room. Now I'm thinking about it.

748
00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:52.000
Way backstage to the WrestleMania Ones,
I recorded a podcast segment with him and

749
00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:59.119
he came off so douchey in that
segment that people at w E listen to

750
00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:00.800
it and we're like week and not
air this. He comes off terribly.

751
00:55:01.719 --> 00:55:07.519
That is a wrestling podcast. There
has been some actual suspect stuff with him.

752
00:55:07.559 --> 00:55:08.800
It wouldn't it wouldn't sprise me,
it wouldn't surprise me at all.

753
00:55:08.920 --> 00:55:15.280
But oh, I have one kid, rock m he's actually being well,

754
00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:22.440
is he criminal? He's no,
Like he's just like really annoying douchebag.

755
00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:28.360
Definitely, he's more of an asshole, I think. Yeah, I wouldn't

756
00:55:28.400 --> 00:55:32.079
like he's he's intentionally low brow.
Yeah, are you saying douchebag is only

757
00:55:32.119 --> 00:55:36.480
with high brow things? I feel
like you can be a douchebag and when

758
00:55:36.519 --> 00:55:42.199
you go lower and like when you
go like class is more douchebag, right

759
00:55:44.440 --> 00:55:46.679
or likely? But I don't know
if it's necessary like he was, he

760
00:55:46.880 --> 00:55:52.519
was he's shooting guns at bud light
stuff. That asshole behavior. Yeah,

761
00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:57.679
I guess that is asshole behavior.
What about Oh god, he was gonna

762
00:55:57.960 --> 00:56:00.800
say ship I just had someone God
Nam Sorry, You've got people like Jordan

763
00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:07.000
Peterson that's a different category. Well, he's definitely a douchebag. That's like

764
00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:14.039
borderline cult leader. We're obviously good
at establishing when someone is finding Jared leto,

765
00:56:15.079 --> 00:56:17.760
although that might be a criminal that
I don't I think there are rumors

766
00:56:17.760 --> 00:56:22.679
of maybe criminal stuff, but like
grade a douchebag, he's a freak of

767
00:56:22.880 --> 00:56:27.719
nature. Fuck that guy. Yeah, that's a great example. Dan Job

768
00:56:28.920 --> 00:56:30.880
very long time. He's just someone
I don't like the judge of book by

769
00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:34.519
its cover or anything. But you
watch two seconds of that guy talking,

770
00:56:34.840 --> 00:56:37.719
or you see him on stage or
anything like, that guy's a fucking douchebag.

771
00:56:37.679 --> 00:56:42.519
Yeah, he as another person I
still can't stand. Like when Fight

772
00:56:42.599 --> 00:56:44.559
Club came out and he got the
shit kicked out of him, I was

773
00:56:44.599 --> 00:56:46.079
like, yeah, that seems right. Hey, I didn't even know who

774
00:56:46.119 --> 00:56:52.480
he was. Then Websters defines douchebag
as a jerk or asshole, a mean

775
00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:59.199
or rude person, someone who's seen
as arrogant, snobby, or obnoxious.

776
00:56:59.440 --> 00:57:01.199
I think that's a huge bag and
asshole. I think douchebag there is the

777
00:57:01.360 --> 00:57:06.159
arrogant, snobby type thing. I
think asshole is just like brash, drunken.

778
00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:12.800
Douchebag is a holier than thou type
vibe. Yes, okay, I

779
00:57:12.840 --> 00:57:17.360
think we're establishing Jared Leto was a
ten. The was like a one,

780
00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:27.360
like anti not who's just a really
nice Jake Decker. Obama just a regular

781
00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:34.880
person, your President of the United
States, average, an average show,

782
00:57:35.000 --> 00:57:44.320
as you would say, is the
anti douchebag. Yes, yeah, just

783
00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:50.079
super selfless I saw him once.
Wow, he's murderous, but he's not

784
00:57:50.119 --> 00:57:53.480
a douchebag. Yeah, that's very
anti douchebag. It was within, it

785
00:57:53.599 --> 00:57:57.400
was within the boundaries a lot.
He stayed in my place last weekend.

786
00:57:57.559 --> 00:58:00.760
Still a very very nice guy.
Turns out. Yeah, I like them

787
00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:05.840
lot. Do you want to talk
about video games? Oh right, yeah,

788
00:58:06.159 --> 00:58:12.639
okay, sure, I guess talking
about dogs, Mike and Mary.

789
00:58:12.880 --> 00:58:15.599
It is a new year, and
you know me, I always say I

790
00:58:15.760 --> 00:58:17.719
like to start the year with something
new. So this year you always say

791
00:58:17.760 --> 00:58:22.320
that always every year. But this
year, twenty twenty four, I am

792
00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:27.960
expanding my palette to try some new
wines with First Leaf. With personalized wines

793
00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:31.320
and convenience shipping, First Leaf makes
it easy to explore new wines from around

794
00:58:31.360 --> 00:58:35.440
the world. Yes, it is
great. If you're a beginner. You

795
00:58:35.480 --> 00:58:37.719
could just log in if it's your
first time, and they're going to give

796
00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:39.039
you a few tests. They're going
to ask you like, do you like

797
00:58:39.119 --> 00:58:43.079
almonds or toast, or do you
like coffee? Do you like dark chocolate.

798
00:58:43.400 --> 00:58:47.119
They'll put together your first box based
on those answers. But you can

799
00:58:47.199 --> 00:58:50.960
also get into their fine wine collection, which I've been doing. I got

800
00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:52.519
a carbon Air from Chili, which
I'm excited to try out about a carbon

801
00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:57.639
Air kick. I got a Bordeaux
Blanc which is going to be nice to

802
00:58:57.679 --> 00:59:00.320
pair with some some fish tacos.
I plan on making weekend ann Acaberny Soovignon

803
00:59:00.360 --> 00:59:04.599
from Spain. I'm looking forward to
trying them all because the last time we

804
00:59:04.639 --> 00:59:06.880
got fine wines from First Leaf,
they were all great. Mary, tell

805
00:59:06.920 --> 00:59:09.800
them how they can get in on
this wine action. Try something new this

806
00:59:09.960 --> 00:59:15.719
year with first Leaf. Go to
try first leaf dot com slash fire Escape

807
00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:21.480
to sign up and you'll get your
first six hand curated bottles for just forty

808
00:59:21.519 --> 00:59:27.679
four to ninety five. That's try
first Leaf dot com slash fire Escape.

809
00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:35.000
Try first leaf dot Com slash fire
Escape Wine. All right. Games are

810
00:59:35.079 --> 00:59:39.920
coming out again. We've got how
many how many weeks into two weeks into

811
00:59:39.960 --> 00:59:45.320
January, they're coming got like a
Dragon Infinite Wealth on the Horizon, Last

812
00:59:45.320 --> 00:59:49.559
of Us, Last of Us Part
two remastered with its roguelike. We got

813
00:59:49.639 --> 00:59:53.079
Tech and eight. We got pal
World, which is like Pokemon with guns.

814
00:59:53.199 --> 01:00:00.280
Oh thing got enshrouded a lot of
things that Brian Cox video was very

815
01:00:00.440 --> 01:00:04.360
smart. The Technic watch it yet
I know the general gist of it.

816
01:00:04.400 --> 01:00:07.320
I did not watch. It was
just whoever came up with that and Namco

817
01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:10.880
just hats off that had everyone talking. It was extremely well done. Brian

818
01:00:10.960 --> 01:00:14.679
Cox like what, I don't want
to say. He's into it, but

819
01:00:14.760 --> 01:00:16.800
he's playing into it exactly the way
he should. Like, he's doing the

820
01:00:16.880 --> 01:00:22.400
Brian Cox gravitas talking about the fucking
Mishima Devil Jean, and it's completely insane.

821
01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:27.760
I love that video. I guess
we might as well get get a

822
01:00:27.800 --> 01:00:30.880
bummer of a game out of the
way up front. Prince of Persia with

823
01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:35.400
the lost Crown. I'm kidding.
We haven't talked kind of thing. Yeah,

824
01:00:35.599 --> 01:00:37.920
real, we have not talked about
this, me and you at all.

825
01:00:37.480 --> 01:00:40.480
I beat it this morning as of
this recording because you hated it.

826
01:00:40.599 --> 01:00:44.400
Yeah, yeah, okay, you've
been joking. I don't know if you're

827
01:00:44.440 --> 01:00:50.920
joking because it's so obviously good.
I think it's a pretty obviously great metrics.

828
01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:53.360
Okay, I like it a lot. I'm still very early on all

829
01:00:53.440 --> 01:00:57.239
things told. We'll talk after I'll
tell you where I am, but i'd

830
01:00:57.280 --> 01:01:02.400
say four hours. Okay, Well
you're okay, so I we're not going

831
01:01:02.440 --> 01:01:07.280
to give explicit spoilers about like me, no don't no, no, no

832
01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:08.119
no, the games. The game
is not even gonna be out as of

833
01:01:08.159 --> 01:01:10.119
this. No no, But but
I think, you know, I can

834
01:01:10.159 --> 01:01:13.679
talk about how long it is and
things like that, Like things are that

835
01:01:13.840 --> 01:01:17.719
risingly excellent. Metroid feels great on
mechanical level, great boss fights so far.

836
01:01:17.880 --> 01:01:22.599
This is just my experience. Great
boss fights so far, great quality

837
01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:24.280
of life, things that, like
I hope Metroid does in the future.

838
01:01:27.639 --> 01:01:29.440
Oh my god. Yes, there's
so much to talk about with this.

839
01:01:29.800 --> 01:01:32.280
Yeah, but I mean, like
I I'm not into the characters on like,

840
01:01:32.480 --> 01:01:35.480
oh, I can't wait to see
what happens with this character next.

841
01:01:35.519 --> 01:01:37.639
But the character design is cool.
Look at the game is good, but

842
01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:42.760
don't expect the story or the characters
to suddenly get great. And that's not

843
01:01:42.960 --> 01:01:45.719
just me, mister don't like stories
and games. Guy, I've talked to

844
01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:49.159
people who do very much like stories
and games, and like, I don't

845
01:01:49.239 --> 01:01:52.280
know anyone that is like, oh, it's really into the story so like,

846
01:01:52.920 --> 01:01:54.719
but it's a Metrid mania. There's
not a ton of story. There

847
01:01:54.719 --> 01:01:58.920
are some like boss fight intros and
stuff that you can skip on the second,

848
01:01:58.960 --> 01:02:01.159
third, fourth, try and stuff
that, but yeah, don't expect

849
01:02:01.360 --> 01:02:04.519
characters your story to be great here. There's a lot of stuff where you

850
01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:07.119
pick up a collectible and there's seven
paragraphs of texts and it's like this is

851
01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:10.280
what is this like? So let's
get the bad stuff out of the way.

852
01:02:10.360 --> 01:02:14.840
That's there's very few bad things I
can say about this game. I

853
01:02:14.840 --> 01:02:16.679
would say, yeah, character,
story, things like that, but all

854
01:02:16.760 --> 01:02:22.280
the things that matter to me in
a metroid Vania, this hits so hard,

855
01:02:22.360 --> 01:02:24.599
and like like you said, it
feels good right away, and that

856
01:02:24.800 --> 01:02:29.440
goes so far to me, especially
in like a Metroidvania where the platforming and

857
01:02:29.519 --> 01:02:34.079
the combat. The combat is so
much better in this than damn near any

858
01:02:34.519 --> 01:02:37.880
like Metroidvania I've played before, because
this has almost like a Devil may Cry

859
01:02:37.960 --> 01:02:45.440
Bayonetta type of combo melee. You
know, your your air juggles and things

860
01:02:45.480 --> 01:02:47.320
like that. You're doing sprint kick. That's the most satisfying thing ever.

861
01:02:47.719 --> 01:02:50.880
The the slide and you kick them
up in the air, you jump up,

862
01:02:50.880 --> 01:02:52.920
you hit him a couple of times, you pair him, or you

863
01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:55.440
stag him up there with an arrow, hit him down, or if you're

864
01:02:55.440 --> 01:02:59.440
sprinting, and then you just press
the attack, he'll do this like diving

865
01:03:00.320 --> 01:03:01.920
you dropkick, Yeah, you can
hold it in charge, throw like a

866
01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:06.000
beam thing later. And here's the
thing. I don't want to spoil too

867
01:03:06.000 --> 01:03:07.880
many abilities and things like that,
because that is one of the best things

868
01:03:07.880 --> 01:03:13.119
about this game is I beat it
in about twenty two hours, I want

869
01:03:13.159 --> 01:03:17.480
to say, and that entire time, yeah, yeah, the entire time.

870
01:03:17.840 --> 01:03:22.719
I was getting upgrades and abilities that
like every like a couple hours,

871
01:03:22.719 --> 01:03:25.239
I feel like I was getting something
where it's like, oh shit, Like

872
01:03:25.280 --> 01:03:29.519
you know that feeling in a Metroidvania
where you get the double jump finally and

873
01:03:29.639 --> 01:03:31.079
it's like, oh man, this
opens up so much. I can't wait

874
01:03:31.119 --> 01:03:35.960
to go back and see all this. It does that, but a bunch

875
01:03:36.039 --> 01:03:38.480
of different times, with a bunch
of different abilities, and the versions of

876
01:03:38.559 --> 01:03:44.599
each of these upgrades feels so fucking
good. Like the double jump fucking fantastic.

877
01:03:45.159 --> 01:03:50.639
The uh uh. There's so many
little details where it's like so much

878
01:03:50.679 --> 01:03:53.039
thought went into everything in this game. Like if you jump forward and in

879
01:03:53.079 --> 01:03:55.480
the middle of the jump you kind
of hold back, like there's like an

880
01:03:55.480 --> 01:03:59.480
animation you'll see your guy kind of
like transition into a backflip and things like

881
01:03:59.559 --> 01:04:01.239
that, like that not a major
thing by any means, but like there's

882
01:04:01.280 --> 01:04:05.760
so much thought in everything. Like
there's an air dash and the animation for

883
01:04:05.920 --> 01:04:10.320
it is the Wall Run from.
It took me like a couple hours after

884
01:04:10.360 --> 01:04:12.320
getting the air dash that I realized, like, holy shit, he's doing

885
01:04:12.360 --> 01:04:15.719
the like signature like Wall Run from
the Old, like Sands of Time trilogy.

886
01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:19.280
There's just so so much care and
TLC put into like everything in this

887
01:04:19.400 --> 01:04:24.679
game. Got it, don't evenore
it might Yeah yeah, no, I

888
01:04:24.719 --> 01:04:27.920
was gonna say. I also,
again, only four hours in each time

889
01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:33.000
I've gotten a weapon or ability that
I think I know what it does.

890
01:04:33.079 --> 01:04:38.639
I'm like, okay, sure I
get what Bow and Arrow does specifically.

891
01:04:38.760 --> 01:04:43.039
And then this game is very good
about toying with like what you get,

892
01:04:43.079 --> 01:04:45.519
Like, I feel like there's a
wrinkle to everything this game is doing so

893
01:04:45.639 --> 01:04:47.719
far. But quality of life wise, holy shit. The thing Dan and

894
01:04:47.760 --> 01:04:51.719
I were mentioning, uh more and
more. Metrovnias are games with maps in

895
01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:57.000
general, are allowing you to place
custom markers. Bret the wild type Yeah

896
01:04:57.360 --> 01:05:00.440
yeah. Lost Crown does something very
smart in that all you have to do

897
01:05:00.480 --> 01:05:01.880
when you're standing still if you see
a chest that's out of reach because you

898
01:05:01.920 --> 01:05:04.360
don't have the double jump yet,
or you don't have the air dash or

899
01:05:04.599 --> 01:05:09.199
what have you. Uh, you
just literally hold down in the directional pad

900
01:05:09.519 --> 01:05:11.960
playing on switch. I'm assuming it's
the same. You just tap down.

901
01:05:13.119 --> 01:05:15.719
Uh oh, I just have to. Yeah, you have to. It

902
01:05:15.760 --> 01:05:19.719
says it told me to hold it. Either way. You basically just take

903
01:05:19.760 --> 01:05:25.079
a screenshot of that what you're looking
at that like what this? You take

904
01:05:25.079 --> 01:05:29.079
a screenshot and then it adds it
to that spot on your map. So

905
01:05:29.639 --> 01:05:31.000
if you see a marker on your
map, you don't have to put like

906
01:05:31.079 --> 01:05:33.199
a treasure chest or a sword like
you do in Breath of the Wild,

907
01:05:33.280 --> 01:05:35.760
or it's here's the Kingdom. It's
specifically the screenshot you took, so you

908
01:05:35.800 --> 01:05:40.800
could see exactly what it is that
you're reminding your future self to return for

909
01:05:40.880 --> 01:05:42.440
it. It's like, oh right, I couldn't make this jump, but

910
01:05:42.519 --> 01:05:45.199
there was this like triangle of energy
up there. I don't know what that

911
01:05:45.320 --> 01:05:47.400
means or whatever. And you can
look at your literal screenshot on the map

912
01:05:47.480 --> 01:05:49.559
and it's like, okay, now
once I know what that means, I

913
01:05:49.599 --> 01:05:51.960
can go back there. So you've
got the Breath of the wild map markers

914
01:05:53.039 --> 01:05:56.400
you got your own personal like screenshots
you're putting on the map, and then

915
01:05:56.480 --> 01:06:00.119
also it auto adds these map markers, Like if I'm trying to enter this

916
01:06:00.280 --> 01:06:03.880
room from the right and there's a
there's something blocking it, it will add

917
01:06:04.039 --> 01:06:10.599
on the map a like arrow pointing
to the left showing me that. So

918
01:06:10.719 --> 01:06:14.039
it only shows up after you've encountered
that, and then you're like, so

919
01:06:14.119 --> 01:06:15.280
you know exactly what the deal.
It's like, Okay, I couldn't get

920
01:06:15.280 --> 01:06:19.000
in there because there's something blocking it, or is it saying that you can

921
01:06:19.079 --> 01:06:23.960
only go one way through? It's
pointing at the obstacle. So if you're

922
01:06:24.079 --> 01:06:27.000
on the right trying to go to
the left and there's a block or something,

923
01:06:27.039 --> 01:06:29.400
it'll just be an arrow kind of
going down to the left, letting

924
01:06:29.440 --> 01:06:31.440
you know that, like I got
to find some way to get here's where

925
01:06:31.519 --> 01:06:35.400
the block is. You know.
That's an excellent update for all metroid veanius

926
01:06:35.480 --> 01:06:40.880
because one of my biggest criticisms with
Metroid vane is is I will constantly be

927
01:06:41.039 --> 01:06:44.719
like, why couldn't I go into
this room? I will revisit and I'll

928
01:06:44.760 --> 01:06:48.559
be like, oh right, it
requires like if the door is blocked or

929
01:06:48.599 --> 01:06:53.800
requires a key or requires a triple
jump, and then it gets it's frustrating

930
01:06:53.840 --> 01:06:57.280
if that happens to a player more
than once or twice. So yeah,

931
01:06:57.400 --> 01:07:00.719
that's a brilliant idea. Is just
to like let you know there's a reason

932
01:07:00.800 --> 01:07:03.840
why you can't go into this this
space. Yeah, it's like that version

933
01:07:03.840 --> 01:07:06.119
of like you know, in Metroid
there would be like doors where it's like

934
01:07:06.159 --> 01:07:09.360
you know on the map they show
up as green and then you know like

935
01:07:09.400 --> 01:07:11.519
oh, I need the super missile
for that or something. But like this

936
01:07:11.800 --> 01:07:17.079
goes a step further and it's like
here's within rooms where you couldn't access there's

937
01:07:17.239 --> 01:07:24.039
also uh fuck uh god, damn
it, I already I keep drawing myself

938
01:07:24.039 --> 01:07:26.960
the ambulance. Yes, that's what
I was about. So your amulets are

939
01:07:27.079 --> 01:07:30.599
like the perks you can you can
add and adjust. So when you start,

940
01:07:30.679 --> 01:07:32.679
you have a necklace that has like
three spots, four different things you

941
01:07:32.679 --> 01:07:34.800
can pick up. And so it's
like, okay, this one is like

942
01:07:35.159 --> 01:07:40.679
fire damage does less damage, or
you know, your your air attacks give

943
01:07:40.719 --> 01:07:43.639
you a little more, or like
damage that are that you're bringing in will

944
01:07:43.639 --> 01:07:47.440
be converted to this. Like basically
like rage meter energy. But as it

945
01:07:47.519 --> 01:07:51.840
goes on, you unlock a lot
of slots for your amulets, and so

946
01:07:51.960 --> 01:07:56.599
if you encounter boss and you're getting
your ass kicked, but then you realize

947
01:07:56.679 --> 01:07:58.639
like, oh wait, okay,
I think I really need to do a

948
01:07:58.719 --> 01:08:00.760
lot of like mail attacks with this, or I need to really focus on

949
01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:05.639
arrow stuff or defense against this type
of thing. You can respawn at one

950
01:08:05.679 --> 01:08:09.599
of the trees that's like a save
point, and then you can kind of

951
01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:12.760
customize, like okay, I can
fit this many amulets in here, and

952
01:08:12.840 --> 01:08:15.159
like some of them cost different stuff, like this is a really good one

953
01:08:15.199 --> 01:08:18.079
that costs three slots, this one's
one. But I'll cover the arrows,

954
01:08:18.239 --> 01:08:21.840
I'll cover this defense I need,
and I'll power up my air attacks and

955
01:08:21.840 --> 01:08:24.960
stuff like that. So then you
go back and you kick their ass,

956
01:08:25.039 --> 01:08:29.000
and yeah, it's you really get
to adjust based on whatever challenges you're dealing

957
01:08:29.039 --> 01:08:32.840
with. Yeah, it's great.
It caught me off guard. I mean,

958
01:08:33.119 --> 01:08:36.880
well, I there were some pretty
glowing previews a couple a few weeks

959
01:08:36.920 --> 01:08:43.600
ago, but I mean I'm trying
to think of what the what were the

960
01:08:43.680 --> 01:08:46.720
last good two d Metrovania Ben would
have been Dred Dread would be the last

961
01:08:46.760 --> 01:08:49.840
one. I mean, I would
say in terms of like that top tier

962
01:08:49.920 --> 01:08:55.279
of metroid Vania is it's like something
Tonight's Super Metroid or like the top ones,

963
01:08:55.359 --> 01:08:59.039
but like all those you know,
ds and GBA Castlevanias and numerous Metroids,

964
01:08:59.079 --> 01:09:02.279
Zerosion Infusion, all that shadow complex. I feel like this is in

965
01:09:02.439 --> 01:09:05.920
that conversation. I'm not going to
say this is better than Seventhday Night or

966
01:09:05.920 --> 01:09:10.640
anything crazy, you know, but
like it is in that top tier of

967
01:09:10.720 --> 01:09:13.279
the genre. You know, so
you know, you go down you know,

968
01:09:13.439 --> 01:09:15.720
five or six steps and yeah,
then you've got you know, the

969
01:09:15.760 --> 01:09:17.720
holid Nights the world. But yeah, yeah, but yeah, this is

970
01:09:17.840 --> 01:09:21.680
up there with a good one.
I think that's fantastic. Is one of

971
01:09:21.720 --> 01:09:28.239
my favorite is a good one?
Yeah, what makes you like it more?

972
01:09:29.279 --> 01:09:31.079
And then something like Or, which
is like a very modern take on

973
01:09:31.199 --> 01:09:34.840
Metroid and very good, and I
love that second Or specifically, I really

974
01:09:34.920 --> 01:09:43.479
loved that. I feel like Or
really excelled in style. It also was

975
01:09:43.520 --> 01:09:46.119
really good and also like the very
kind of crafted platforming segments where like you're

976
01:09:46.119 --> 01:09:50.479
getting chased and it's you know,
this very kind of specific sequence of events

977
01:09:50.520 --> 01:09:55.880
while you're you know these cinematic sequences. This is a little more traditional in

978
01:09:56.039 --> 01:09:59.920
terms of Metroidvania. Uh, in
terms of just like the combat and exploration

979
01:10:00.039 --> 01:10:03.399
and things like that. Ori is
the more stylish one. I would say,

980
01:10:04.039 --> 01:10:08.079
I do like this one better.
This is like you took a more

981
01:10:08.119 --> 01:10:13.960
classic Supermetriator or something tonight but then
added really solid melee combat and the boss

982
01:10:14.119 --> 01:10:16.960
fights. Like they're all fucking fantastic. Yeah, I was gonna say Aori

983
01:10:17.039 --> 01:10:20.840
struck four hours into Lost Crown,
I will say Ori strikes me more as

984
01:10:20.880 --> 01:10:28.159
a platform centric Metroidvania. Lost Crown
strikes me as more combat centric. So

985
01:10:28.479 --> 01:10:31.560
it's pretty like, Okay, I
played like platforming is probably like my favorite

986
01:10:31.600 --> 01:10:35.399
genre, and this is there are
moments where I'm like, this is really

987
01:10:35.560 --> 01:10:39.560
testing me, or moments where I
didn't even think things were possible and I

988
01:10:39.720 --> 01:10:42.960
really had to think, oh wait, I've got this disability and disability and

989
01:10:43.079 --> 01:10:45.359
maybe I could make it and do
a wall jump off that if I did

990
01:10:45.399 --> 01:10:47.159
this, and I would like surprise
myself like holy shit, I didn't know

991
01:10:47.319 --> 01:10:50.960
that was possible and it works.
So yeah, platform is I think it's

992
01:10:51.000 --> 01:10:57.119
just that Ori from the outset is
platforming is its identity almost like right away,

993
01:10:57.520 --> 01:10:59.920
whereas this I haven't gotten to any
parts yet where I'm like, oh

994
01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:02.640
okay, I'm not saying that doesn't
have good platforming puzzles and whatnot, but

995
01:11:02.720 --> 01:11:11.760
it's definitely like so far, it's
on the scale of like Pitfall to super

996
01:11:11.880 --> 01:11:15.840
meat Boy. It's it's it's towards
super meat Boy, but it's not it's

997
01:11:15.880 --> 01:11:18.039
not or yet there there is,
There are There are challenges in this game

998
01:11:18.119 --> 01:11:23.640
that are very much in that like
Celeste super meat Boy or those super challenging

999
01:11:23.800 --> 01:11:25.960
like you know, three D Mario
levels and things like that. I love

1000
01:11:26.039 --> 01:11:29.159
that show. There are things on
that level. There was one in particular

1001
01:11:29.239 --> 01:11:30.039
that like, as I was trying
to finish the game today, I got

1002
01:11:30.119 --> 01:11:33.039
to and I tried like six or
seven times, and I got close.

1003
01:11:33.199 --> 01:11:35.239
I know I can do it.
I'm going to go back, but I

1004
01:11:35.399 --> 01:11:38.439
was like this, I'm going to
have to come back with this because I

1005
01:11:38.479 --> 01:11:43.239
want to beat this game before Buyer
Escape. But very very difficult in a

1006
01:11:43.279 --> 01:11:45.720
good way. Even if you're like
a season platforming fan. It's awesome that

1007
01:11:45.800 --> 01:11:54.920
you're so into it. I feel
like the visual style isn't super might my

1008
01:11:55.239 --> 01:12:00.600
jam, but that's not enough to
stop me from playing it. It has

1009
01:12:00.680 --> 01:12:06.720
a very I'm actually not sure how
to describe this art style muddy at first.

1010
01:12:08.479 --> 01:12:11.840
I mean, you're in the desert
at the beginning, but like it's

1011
01:12:11.840 --> 01:12:15.640
almost like a little overwatched character vibe
to the characters, you know. Yeah,

1012
01:12:15.880 --> 01:12:19.039
it's strange to combine the words muddy
and saturated, but that's how I

1013
01:12:19.079 --> 01:12:24.159
would describe it. It's like they
put a lot of heavy satch in there

1014
01:12:24.239 --> 01:12:30.479
to make sure that it's eye catching, but that doesn't mean that it works

1015
01:12:30.560 --> 01:12:34.640
within the world or is very saturated, but it has such a vibe to

1016
01:12:34.840 --> 01:12:40.880
it that there's okay, So I
guess, like just as I'm looking at

1017
01:12:40.920 --> 01:12:44.600
it a lot of the times in
the side scrolling sections, in some spaces,

1018
01:12:44.720 --> 01:12:48.439
the background is actually very simple,
Like it's essentially like fog, or

1019
01:12:48.960 --> 01:12:54.920
it's sand and there's not a lot
going on back there, whereas like in

1020
01:12:55.039 --> 01:12:58.640
an Orri, there was a whole
goddamn forest back there and there was so

1021
01:12:58.760 --> 01:13:01.319
much to look at in the whole
game looks like a painting, you know.

1022
01:13:02.760 --> 01:13:05.960
In this there were certain like boss
designs and things like that that I

1023
01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:09.880
thought were really cool, But like
or Is definitely the better looking game between

1024
01:13:09.920 --> 01:13:14.680
the two. I'm very excited to
play this. You have you have my

1025
01:13:14.800 --> 01:13:18.479
attention. It is a dewey game
of a very high caliber. I would

1026
01:13:18.479 --> 01:13:21.439
say, I love it. Right. They get right into the dewey and

1027
01:13:21.520 --> 01:13:27.199
the power ups and the new abilities
pretty quickly, like very quick one stuff.

1028
01:13:27.840 --> 01:13:29.880
Early on, there's a part where
I was asking you to go talk

1029
01:13:29.960 --> 01:13:31.279
to all your teammates. I was
like, ah, come on, and

1030
01:13:31.840 --> 01:13:35.000
all them like were They were all
like three sentences and then it's like,

1031
01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:36.439
all right, move on. It
was like, all right, I like

1032
01:13:36.560 --> 01:13:41.199
this crew. Yeah, and then
like every boss fight because like I died

1033
01:13:41.239 --> 01:13:43.479
at most boss fights at least a
couple of times, and like it you

1034
01:13:43.479 --> 01:13:46.279
can just hold me Skiven. So
yeah, it's it's it's not too bad

1035
01:13:46.399 --> 01:13:50.399
with that, but it's it's not
great the story stuff, but the gameplay

1036
01:13:50.640 --> 01:13:55.319
more than mixed up for it.
Weirdly enough, the way it feels,

1037
01:13:55.760 --> 01:13:59.079
or at least like the way he
transitions in and out of sprinting and jumping

1038
01:13:59.199 --> 01:14:03.079
reminds me of that Strider remake from
like ten years ago. Yes, somebody

1039
01:14:03.319 --> 01:14:06.600
was telling me about that. Yeah, the Strider on it was in La

1040
01:14:06.760 --> 01:14:10.720
or it was a PlayStation exclusive,
wasn't I think it might have been PlayStation

1041
01:14:10.880 --> 01:14:13.279
station exclusive. It was good.
It was really good. Yeah, I

1042
01:14:13.359 --> 01:14:15.359
liked it a lot. It feels
like I remember that game feeling, which

1043
01:14:15.439 --> 01:14:17.439
is a compliment. Yeah, clear, No, I love that game.

1044
01:14:18.920 --> 01:14:24.159
Uh Yeah, Lost Crown is great. It's it's out soonish later this week,

1045
01:14:24.199 --> 01:14:27.720
I believe as of this early access
for like, I don't know if

1046
01:14:27.720 --> 01:14:30.239
it's a pre order thing or something. It was like the fourteenth and then

1047
01:14:30.600 --> 01:14:34.600
wide release I think is the eighteenth. Well, yeah, January fifteenth is

1048
01:14:34.640 --> 01:14:38.880
early access, maybe because it's three
days prior. Yeah, yeah, that

1049
01:14:38.960 --> 01:14:44.359
makes sense. But yeah, especially
like Prince of Persas got that whole Set

1050
01:14:44.399 --> 01:14:48.000
of Time remake in limbo kind of
thing, this like this game was just

1051
01:14:48.199 --> 01:14:53.359
questionable for a while, so I'm
glad to see them nail it. Yeah,

1052
01:14:53.479 --> 01:14:56.359
it's good. It's been it's been
a weird series, like it's reinvented

1053
01:14:56.399 --> 01:14:59.279
itself so many times between the old
like was it on DOS or like the

1054
01:14:59.319 --> 01:15:01.760
old PC a very deliberate kind of
plant. It was more like an odd

1055
01:15:01.840 --> 01:15:04.359
world game back in the day.
Uh, and then he had the Sands

1056
01:15:04.359 --> 01:15:09.079
of Time trilogy, was was a
very different thing and then eight, which

1057
01:15:09.399 --> 01:15:12.239
I loved. I really really liked
that direction for the series, and I

1058
01:15:12.319 --> 01:15:15.239
know that was a polarizing one and
I wanted that to be what it was

1059
01:15:15.359 --> 01:15:17.079
doing going forward. But then the
movie came out and then made the like

1060
01:15:17.199 --> 01:15:20.479
Forgotten Sands, which was the very
forgettable just like we're gonna make him look

1061
01:15:20.520 --> 01:15:23.680
on like Jake jill and Hall,
and it's gonna have a very safe,

1062
01:15:23.760 --> 01:15:28.239
boring art style. Jake jill played
him, yes, and then it just

1063
01:15:28.560 --> 01:15:34.760
disappeared that happened. Nowadays people would
freak out, Yeah, yeah, got

1064
01:15:34.880 --> 01:15:39.399
Jake Jillen Hall of all people.
Either, we freaked out back then because

1065
01:15:39.399 --> 01:15:43.039
he just didn't earn nothing we did. Okay, he was also he was

1066
01:15:43.720 --> 01:15:46.960
he was just not a good fit
for that role. In addition to everything

1067
01:15:47.039 --> 01:15:51.920
that you are saying, I'm saying
he doesn't he he doesn't have the structure,

1068
01:15:53.119 --> 01:15:58.039
he doesn't have the bone structure,
he doesn't have like the the tummy

1069
01:15:58.159 --> 01:16:00.479
for it, he didn't have the
muss. I feel like every time he

1070
01:16:00.640 --> 01:16:03.520
was like holding like a semitar or
any type of weapon, it was like,

1071
01:16:03.600 --> 01:16:09.319
you can't hold that Jake Jillen Hall. Everyone knows that that guy has

1072
01:16:09.359 --> 01:16:16.680
a bit of a doe figure.
Is the guy that was after Have you

1073
01:16:16.760 --> 01:16:20.079
seen him and look up Jake Jillen
Hall South Paw, Okay, I'll look

1074
01:16:21.720 --> 01:16:26.880
your point better not this better not
change me? He was not. He

1075
01:16:27.079 --> 01:16:30.279
was not like this at the time. This was Oh I look like this

1076
01:16:30.479 --> 01:16:35.479
better not better not awaken anything in
me. I'm pretty sure he like divorced

1077
01:16:38.159 --> 01:16:42.079
size for this movie. I'm exaggerating, I'm sure, but I'm pretty sure

1078
01:16:42.159 --> 01:16:46.840
he like broke up with his wife
broke. Did he swallow a bunch of

1079
01:16:46.960 --> 01:16:50.439
bean bags and ended up in his
belly? I don't know, but he

1080
01:16:50.560 --> 01:16:57.479
got like like like two ripped for
this movie. He looks ridiculous. I

1081
01:16:57.680 --> 01:17:00.479
was wrong, yeah, yeah,
But at the time though, my point

1082
01:17:00.520 --> 01:17:04.279
being, but yeah, he does
not have a doe figure. But now

1083
01:17:04.319 --> 01:17:11.079
I'm gonna google Jake chill in the
Hall principle. Imagine being the director of

1084
01:17:11.119 --> 01:17:14.479
Prince of Persia seeing South popular.
Why the fuck couldn't you have done this?

1085
01:17:15.199 --> 01:17:23.279
Oh my god, he looks so
soft and they gave him a haircut.

1086
01:17:23.960 --> 01:17:28.119
It just does not suit him.
He looks like at any moment he's

1087
01:17:28.199 --> 01:17:44.640
gonna write poetry like Dowey. What
are any of us very but he probably

1088
01:17:44.680 --> 01:17:48.359
not the best. Gosh, it's
so funny. I mean he's not.

1089
01:17:48.960 --> 01:17:54.920
I mean I could take him,
but I wouldn't call that dowey. His

1090
01:17:55.079 --> 01:17:59.399
hair is real bad though. Your
spectrum of biggest weather or not, you

1091
01:17:59.479 --> 01:18:03.800
could take them in a one on
one. I yeah, that's that's my

1092
01:18:03.880 --> 01:18:09.199
spectrum for every person. Who are
the few that you don't think you could

1093
01:18:09.199 --> 01:18:13.640
take? I think we decided brock
Lessener Is he number one? Yep?

1094
01:18:13.920 --> 01:18:19.960
Nathan Fielder the rock The rockets pretty
gas pretty quick these days. I could

1095
01:18:20.039 --> 01:18:25.960
take it. I would love to
watch you fight the rock. A bear

1096
01:18:26.600 --> 01:18:29.880
like a black bear, and the
bears are terrifying. I would never want

1097
01:18:29.880 --> 01:18:34.039
to fight a bear. I had
a dream the other night that I rescued

1098
01:18:34.079 --> 01:18:38.560
a baby from underwater while an alligator
was trying to stop me. It was

1099
01:18:38.720 --> 01:18:42.319
horrifying. I had to punch the
alligator a few times. The baby's fine,

1100
01:18:42.439 --> 01:18:46.720
for the record, but I don't
like alligators. I don't like Whose

1101
01:18:46.800 --> 01:18:49.840
baby was it? I don't know. I just walked into the ocean and

1102
01:18:49.880 --> 01:18:54.680
I had to go get it.
Aren't in the ocean, that's a normal.

1103
01:18:55.319 --> 01:18:57.880
Yeah, it was a dream.
I don't know. You have weird

1104
01:18:57.960 --> 01:19:00.640
dreams. Your dreams are stupid.
My dreams are stupid. What did your

1105
01:19:00.680 --> 01:19:04.680
hair look like? I don't know
what I looked like. No, I

1106
01:19:04.760 --> 01:19:09.199
know I look good, That's all
I know. How do you know it

1107
01:19:09.319 --> 01:19:13.000
was a gata? Could have been
a crack of that? Was there a

1108
01:19:13.079 --> 01:19:16.039
lady in the background, going,
my baby, this gate is be care

1109
01:19:16.159 --> 01:19:21.039
for this gate is y'all, y'all
get down to buy you there's gates.

1110
01:19:21.800 --> 01:19:25.399
No. I do that voice a
lot around here because a man who knows

1111
01:19:25.399 --> 01:19:31.600
I don't like gators. That's like
a subconscious thing. Prince of Persia Lost

1112
01:19:31.640 --> 01:19:38.960
Crown is really good. They keep
playing it. I'm hooked. I am

1113
01:19:39.119 --> 01:19:42.439
also playing like a Dragon Infinite Wealth. I'm sure we'll talk more about that

1114
01:19:42.520 --> 01:19:46.640
next episode though. Embargo wise,
Okay, just saying that because those are

1115
01:19:46.680 --> 01:19:49.880
the only two games I'm playing right
now. Of course I was. I

1116
01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:54.159
was on my RTS kick over the
holidays, But uh, Mary, I

1117
01:19:54.199 --> 01:19:58.880
believe you've been playing something else,
right. Yeah, I'm trying to try.

1118
01:19:59.119 --> 01:20:01.760
I'm gonna do my us to pitch
this to you, because, uh,

1119
01:20:02.399 --> 01:20:05.279
you haven't had times. I think
you've been really focused on Prince of

1120
01:20:05.359 --> 01:20:13.279
Persia. But I got a rekindling
of an old game love from long from

1121
01:20:13.399 --> 01:20:19.199
years past, and it's it's a
really silly puzzle game that I find super

1122
01:20:19.239 --> 01:20:26.119
addictive called Snake Bird. I played
about forty levels of that game before we

1123
01:20:26.239 --> 01:20:30.640
recorded Night, so I couldn't know. Yeah, I'm so proud of you.

1124
01:20:30.720 --> 01:20:32.720
Dan. You said it was one
of your favorite games recently, and

1125
01:20:32.720 --> 01:20:35.760
I was like, I checked this
out. It's not recent, it was

1126
01:20:36.039 --> 01:20:39.960
years ago. It was like,
uh, back when I worked at game

1127
01:20:40.039 --> 01:20:42.359
Spot, I got really into this
game. So this was a really long

1128
01:20:42.439 --> 01:20:46.680
time ago. Mike, there's no
excuse. You can basically start this game

1129
01:20:46.800 --> 01:20:51.319
and beat five levels in a minute. Uh, just as a precursor.

1130
01:20:53.079 --> 01:20:55.520
Do it. Do it? While
I talked to Dan about it. You're

1131
01:20:56.560 --> 01:21:02.439
a bird and a snake, and
the concept of the puzzles is that you

1132
01:21:02.640 --> 01:21:06.279
have to eat every fruit. Once
you've done that, you can inch your

1133
01:21:06.319 --> 01:21:11.359
way to the exit, but you
have to eat the fruit first, and

1134
01:21:11.720 --> 01:21:15.600
every time you move forward, the
end of your snake also moves forward.

1135
01:21:16.399 --> 01:21:23.840
But every time you eat a fruit, you extend one block and craddler game

1136
01:21:23.920 --> 01:21:26.520
for like you know calculators, like
the old you know snake game. That's

1137
01:21:26.640 --> 01:21:29.680
right, the snake game for your
calculator, but on this one, it's

1138
01:21:29.840 --> 01:21:33.319
much more about the fact that it'll
be like when you bought when you get

1139
01:21:33.399 --> 01:21:40.600
this fruit, maybe you'll be one
inch too long and you get stuck,

1140
01:21:40.920 --> 01:21:44.760
or maybe you're still too short and
you can fall in a hole. So

1141
01:21:44.960 --> 01:21:48.399
it's about making sure you have eaten
the fruits in the right order. And

1142
01:21:48.840 --> 01:21:54.760
I would say this is a very
classic example of super simple rules. It

1143
01:21:54.880 --> 01:21:58.720
starts very easy. I think you
can finish like ten levels and be like

1144
01:21:58.840 --> 01:22:02.159
this game is too easy. Maybe
it's like maybe it's for dumb dumbs or

1145
01:22:02.199 --> 01:22:05.520
I'm a genius. And then at
some point around like love I don't know

1146
01:22:05.600 --> 01:22:09.399
exactly when I'd be very curious what
happened to you, Dan, But somewhere

1147
01:22:09.399 --> 01:22:11.960
in like the twenties, I was
like, oh shit, I'm dumb,

1148
01:22:12.399 --> 01:22:15.039
and I started like it really pushed
me. Eventually, it's once they start

1149
01:22:15.119 --> 01:22:18.399
introducing things like spikes and stuff,
and you have to start thinking about the

1150
01:22:18.439 --> 01:22:20.640
way gravity plays in where it's like, oh, okay, if I move

1151
01:22:20.720 --> 01:22:24.159
one step forward, my butt's going
to go off the ground, which is

1152
01:22:24.199 --> 01:22:27.760
going to make the snake fall out
of the spikes and like things where it

1153
01:22:27.800 --> 01:22:30.680
should be easy, like okay,
that apple is just like one off of

1154
01:22:30.760 --> 01:22:31.439
this tree, I should be able
to go there. But then it's like,

1155
01:22:31.479 --> 01:22:33.720
wait, now, how do I
get back? Because my snake butt

1156
01:22:33.840 --> 01:22:36.840
is blocking the tunnel there? So
you had to figure out how to position

1157
01:22:36.920 --> 01:22:41.439
yourself. And then like pretty quick, they introduced like you're controlling two different

1158
01:22:41.520 --> 01:22:45.279
snakes snakebirds, and you're like ellen
ring to select which one you want.

1159
01:22:45.319 --> 01:22:46.680
It's like, okay, well this
one I'll make him lay flat and the

1160
01:22:46.800 --> 01:22:50.039
other one I'll use him to push
him forward towards the exit and get him

1161
01:22:50.039 --> 01:22:54.479
across this gap. So I was
impressed at the speed in which it was

1162
01:22:54.520 --> 01:22:59.720
introducing like new ideas. For sure, it absolutely starts to get complicated really

1163
01:22:59.760 --> 01:23:02.439
quick, but what's fun about it? And it reminded me of you,

1164
01:23:02.600 --> 01:23:06.479
Dan, because you have recommended games
to me where you're like, this is

1165
01:23:06.479 --> 01:23:11.720
a really fun playing game. You
can think about it. It won't pressure

1166
01:23:11.760 --> 01:23:16.520
you. It's literally there's no time
limit. Just enjoy yourself. I find

1167
01:23:16.600 --> 01:23:23.560
this to be a very calming and
relaxing, casual puzzle game that will challenge

1168
01:23:23.640 --> 01:23:28.359
you over time. Originally, I
just find this interesting because I know because

1169
01:23:28.399 --> 01:23:30.359
I've been playing this game for so
goddamn long. I used to play the

1170
01:23:30.439 --> 01:23:34.239
original Snake Bird years ago a game
spot, but it was so hard.

1171
01:23:34.399 --> 01:23:39.000
So quickly I was like, I
think this game is for only brilliant people.

1172
01:23:39.399 --> 01:23:42.399
And I think the devs I actually
don't know this story, but my

1173
01:23:42.439 --> 01:23:45.479
assumption is is that they were like, we should probably make like a precursor

1174
01:23:45.560 --> 01:23:48.439
that helps ease people into how difficult
this game gets, and so they made

1175
01:23:48.479 --> 01:23:51.920
an easier game, and then I
think this what we're playing now is the

1176
01:23:53.000 --> 01:23:57.800
merger of the two. It's essentially
a game that now teaches you the concepts

1177
01:23:57.920 --> 01:24:01.039
the rules of the world, which
is very benefit. A really good example

1178
01:24:01.119 --> 01:24:06.439
of that is there's an early level
where it showcases two birds, two snake

1179
01:24:06.479 --> 01:24:11.159
birds, and one is stuck and
you use one of the birds to push

1180
01:24:11.239 --> 01:24:14.680
the other one out. It's a
very simple level, there's nothing else to

1181
01:24:14.840 --> 01:24:17.640
it. But what it's doing is
that level is teaching the player that you

1182
01:24:17.760 --> 01:24:23.399
can push your birds around when there's
two in the world. I think the

1183
01:24:23.479 --> 01:24:26.920
original game didn't have levels like that, and so maybe I would get stuck

1184
01:24:27.000 --> 01:24:28.960
for twenty minutes, I'd be like, oh, I didn't know I could

1185
01:24:28.960 --> 01:24:34.960
push them this new version of the
game is essentially like helping the player establish

1186
01:24:35.039 --> 01:24:39.000
a lot of rules and boundaries so
that by the time you get to those

1187
01:24:39.039 --> 01:24:42.640
really tough levels, you should have
everything you need to solve it. You

1188
01:24:42.800 --> 01:24:46.279
just might it might take your brain
a little bit of time to work the

1189
01:24:46.439 --> 01:24:50.680
rules around to figure it out.
It gets intense, I think. I

1190
01:24:50.720 --> 01:24:54.439
mean at some point, Dan,
I have no idea how far I was

1191
01:24:54.600 --> 01:24:57.560
back in the day, but back
in the day, I was like eighties

1192
01:24:57.720 --> 01:25:00.680
nineties levels and it was like I
was like, this game is only for

1193
01:25:01.520 --> 01:25:04.720
geniuses and I can no longer play. It gets really good. Well,

1194
01:25:04.760 --> 01:25:08.560
it is so simple though that like
it is fun to see just this like

1195
01:25:08.680 --> 01:25:12.039
single screen thing with only so many
possible ways you can go, and it's

1196
01:25:12.119 --> 01:25:15.720
like, Okay, obviously this approach
I'm using is not working, so I

1197
01:25:15.840 --> 01:25:18.560
need to think of different approaches to
this very specific like title or this fruit

1198
01:25:18.600 --> 01:25:21.399
that I need to get to or
whatever. And it is so smart with

1199
01:25:21.560 --> 01:25:26.960
like just the very quick like one
button I always fuck up the face buttons

1200
01:25:27.000 --> 01:25:30.640
on switch, but the top one
is the restart entirely, and it's a

1201
01:25:30.720 --> 01:25:32.840
very very quick one one button restart, no confirmation, nothing like that,

1202
01:25:33.239 --> 01:25:36.079
and then the other one. I
think it's the be is just like one

1203
01:25:36.199 --> 01:25:39.399
step back, so it's like,
oh shit, I went too far.

1204
01:25:39.479 --> 01:25:43.079
Okay, let's kind of it's the
undow button basically, so there. It

1205
01:25:43.239 --> 01:25:46.560
never feels they're losing much progress by
any means. No. It's also very

1206
01:25:46.640 --> 01:25:50.359
cute and bubbly, so for how
frustrating the puzzles are, well how much

1207
01:25:50.399 --> 01:25:54.640
they become, because you will get
stuck playing this game eventually, at some

1208
01:25:54.720 --> 01:25:59.600
point a puzzle will stump you.
All of the movements have these cute little

1209
01:26:00.680 --> 01:26:04.399
noises, and it's very adorable and
there it's extremely colorful, and the music

1210
01:26:04.520 --> 01:26:09.760
is very lighthearted and calming, and
all of that I think is meant to

1211
01:26:10.279 --> 01:26:15.680
combat the fact that these will rack
your brain. So visually, this game

1212
01:26:15.800 --> 01:26:18.079
is a delight and it's just kind
of nice to play around in the world.

1213
01:26:18.520 --> 01:26:23.239
I think it's I think it's quite
brilliant and I think it will be

1214
01:26:23.600 --> 01:26:27.439
although it's January, but I think
it's It is possibly like one of those

1215
01:26:27.760 --> 01:26:30.000
playing games of the year, right, Like, it is just a really

1216
01:26:30.159 --> 01:26:34.920
nice puzzle game that you get to
think about casually and time, and it's

1217
01:26:35.000 --> 01:26:39.279
well executed in nature. It's a
very simple game. Yeah, I agreed,

1218
01:26:39.359 --> 01:26:41.439
and I'm glad you pointed that out
to me. It's like you said,

1219
01:26:41.479 --> 01:26:43.720
on a on a plane, it's
gonna be one where it's like I'm

1220
01:26:43.720 --> 01:26:45.279
scrolling through my game list and I
just want something to pass the time on

1221
01:26:45.359 --> 01:26:46.920
this flight. I'm like, oh
shit, right, I got a bunch

1222
01:26:46.920 --> 01:26:49.159
of levels up in that, so
I'll definitely go back to that. Yeah,

1223
01:26:49.600 --> 01:26:54.479
even though it's not it's a or. No, it didn't originally come

1224
01:26:54.520 --> 01:26:57.600
out on This isn't the original release, right, it was on Piece No,

1225
01:26:57.680 --> 01:27:00.560
I think it was on Steam.
I think I originally played on Steam,

1226
01:27:00.600 --> 01:27:01.640
And like I said, I actually
think I played a different version,

1227
01:27:01.680 --> 01:27:05.960
which is even crazier. This game
is on Switch and I think it's on

1228
01:27:06.079 --> 01:27:09.720
like it's coming out on like other
play like Epic and stuff like that,

1229
01:27:09.840 --> 01:27:15.279
so like it's on different spaces now. But this is the updated version of

1230
01:27:15.359 --> 01:27:18.439
the game that I think is the
best for yeah, someone to play.

1231
01:27:18.560 --> 01:27:21.239
I was going to say, might
be a candidate for a Best Playing Game

1232
01:27:21.279 --> 01:27:26.720
this year, but I didn't know
if it was actually technically what's the word

1233
01:27:26.760 --> 01:27:30.119
I'm looking for, technically came out
this year? Fit was eligible? Ah?

1234
01:27:31.199 --> 01:27:34.239
Is it eligible, let's find out. Okay, so this is actually

1235
01:27:34.239 --> 01:27:40.119
a really good question. I will
tell you this. The Nintendo release date

1236
01:27:40.319 --> 01:27:44.439
is November fifteenth, twenty twenty three, which is last year. But there's

1237
01:27:44.520 --> 01:27:48.159
a cutoff, right, like we
stop allowing like at some point if a

1238
01:27:48.199 --> 01:27:50.880
game comes out in December and it's
like we didn't even have time to play

1239
01:27:50.960 --> 01:27:56.520
this. We we have done that
before. We don't have bosses. It's

1240
01:27:56.600 --> 01:27:59.279
our podcast. We can do it
everyone. I think we we make this

1241
01:27:59.399 --> 01:28:02.039
elector like the boss. Yeah,
we were our own bosses. Yes,

1242
01:28:02.439 --> 01:28:08.039
I'd like to point out that now
that Mary likes the game, she's tweaking

1243
01:28:08.079 --> 01:28:13.239
the rules. Weird. Wait a
minute, I'm not tweaking. I'm saying.

1244
01:28:13.920 --> 01:28:18.920
I'm saying that if a game,
then you did it. I am

1245
01:28:19.119 --> 01:28:24.000
saying that even the game awards will
be like this game came out in December,

1246
01:28:24.439 --> 01:28:29.840
so it was like after the grace
period. I'm sure there's grace periods

1247
01:28:29.920 --> 01:28:32.920
for everybody. But yeah, I'm
a liar and a thief and I've changed

1248
01:28:32.960 --> 01:28:36.840
my mind, but I'm giving I'm
with you on it because I think there's

1249
01:28:36.840 --> 01:28:40.680
another one that we forgot to put
on the list here that we've all played

1250
01:28:40.840 --> 01:28:45.800
and it has something we should push
Lethal Company. Lethal Company. I put

1251
01:28:45.840 --> 01:28:47.960
that down as the best play with
buds of the year. I already started

1252
01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:53.720
the twenty twenty four categories doc and
I put this as the best budge of

1253
01:28:53.720 --> 01:28:56.800
the year. So the thing we
got to plug is we played this US

1254
01:28:56.880 --> 01:29:00.880
and Jake Decker played Lethal Company and
recorded it. And it's like a couple

1255
01:29:00.920 --> 01:29:03.359
of hours long, close to that
hour and a half such any game.

1256
01:29:03.800 --> 01:29:08.399
Yeah, it's on the Patreon if
you're on the videotapes. I played it

1257
01:29:08.479 --> 01:29:12.119
today. I didn't write it down
to talk about, but I keep playing

1258
01:29:12.159 --> 01:29:15.279
this goddamn game. I downloaded the
mods, which Dan said that he did

1259
01:29:15.359 --> 01:29:19.640
on Giant Bomb for a quick look. Mike, these mods change everything.

1260
01:29:19.840 --> 01:29:25.520
I was losing my mind today.
They have mods where you can do all

1261
01:29:25.600 --> 01:29:30.760
these different dances. There's nothing funnier
than being like chased by a monster and

1262
01:29:30.880 --> 01:29:39.640
running by someone twerking. We were
in Warriors, I was in a suit

1263
01:29:40.000 --> 01:29:45.279
and you can flick people off.
It's so funny. It's a really it's

1264
01:29:45.319 --> 01:29:47.880
like a totally different game to play
with mods. I actually think the mods

1265
01:29:47.920 --> 01:29:54.000
are infinitely better. I just didn't
know how valuable they are. Also,

1266
01:29:54.479 --> 01:29:57.319
I always get nervous like modding a
game. I don't know why, probably

1267
01:29:57.359 --> 01:30:00.640
because I'm old and I'm always like
I don't know. It's like I gotta

1268
01:30:00.640 --> 01:30:04.880
go to file on my local files
here and files. I don't trust that.

1269
01:30:05.319 --> 01:30:09.359
Yeah, I agree, it makes
me a little nervous, but anyway,

1270
01:30:09.479 --> 01:30:15.079
it's it's Lethal Company is fantastic with
mods, and so I think it's

1271
01:30:15.239 --> 01:30:19.319
worth playing again. I'm glad I'm
mentioning it now because although I'm a broken

1272
01:30:19.399 --> 01:30:25.800
record about how amazing Lethal Company is, Lethal Company with mods is like absurdly

1273
01:30:26.000 --> 01:30:29.199
funny. I would do it again
with all of you because that that one

1274
01:30:29.279 --> 01:30:33.279
we did for Patreon was so much
fun and it was I played once.

1275
01:30:33.399 --> 01:30:36.199
Mary were the most like veteran of
all of us, and Mike ket and

1276
01:30:36.239 --> 01:30:40.399
played it all. Man, God, just the moments we tweeted out those

1277
01:30:40.399 --> 01:30:43.760
things about Jake to give Ja credit. He was kind of are also a

1278
01:30:43.880 --> 01:30:46.800
guru for us as well. But
yeah, Mary, Mary, you definite

1279
01:30:46.840 --> 01:30:48.760
played way more than me. I
like that game a bunch. I play

1280
01:30:48.800 --> 01:30:50.239
more of it too, But yeah, if you're not a I mean,

1281
01:30:50.520 --> 01:30:55.319
just to plug quick, go subscribe
to our Patreon. The videotier we did

1282
01:30:55.399 --> 01:30:58.119
that bonus episode and it was it
was super fun. It was funny,

1283
01:30:58.359 --> 01:31:00.840
so much fun. We talked before
this episod about like, god damn it,

1284
01:31:00.920 --> 01:31:01.560
that was fun as hell, Like
we should do more of that and

1285
01:31:01.640 --> 01:31:04.520
put it up on the Patreon.
So you know, we don't have the

1286
01:31:04.560 --> 01:31:09.079
strict schedule like Patreon wise of like
you know people that just do Patreon,

1287
01:31:09.479 --> 01:31:12.279
but it's fun for us to do
that and like certain games come out like

1288
01:31:12.279 --> 01:31:14.439
a lethal company to make a lot
of sense, and we would we would

1289
01:31:14.479 --> 01:31:15.960
like to do more of that for
sure. Yeah, for sure. Oh

1290
01:31:16.079 --> 01:31:19.680
my god, it's super fun to
like be inspired to like play these games.

1291
01:31:19.760 --> 01:31:23.199
And I was just saying to you
guys earlier before we started recording,

1292
01:31:23.279 --> 01:31:26.359
I was like, I see these
things all the time where it's like this

1293
01:31:26.520 --> 01:31:29.239
is a dumb game that I don't
know if I'll put too much energy into

1294
01:31:29.319 --> 01:31:31.840
it, but it's like when it's
four player, something goes off in my

1295
01:31:31.960 --> 01:31:35.880
brain where I'm like, I bet
we would fucking love to drink and play

1296
01:31:35.960 --> 01:31:41.800
this game one night, right.
Like I've probably said this before, but

1297
01:31:41.840 --> 01:31:45.760
I feel like games that are multiplayer
online they almost get like a free pass

1298
01:31:45.880 --> 01:31:48.840
because even if the game isn't good. I'm gonna have fun with you.

1299
01:31:49.039 --> 01:31:55.760
Guys. If I'm playing video games
with my friends on a Friday night and

1300
01:31:55.800 --> 01:31:58.199
I got a drink in my hand
and I can stay up as late as

1301
01:31:58.239 --> 01:32:00.840
I want because I have work in
the morning, We're cool and I'm an

1302
01:32:00.840 --> 01:32:05.199
adult, I'm a big girl.
I will have fun. And then so

1303
01:32:05.319 --> 01:32:10.279
the game kind of gets that as
a free edge. Now all it has

1304
01:32:10.359 --> 01:32:14.960
to do is have like some fun
stuff to do in the game. If

1305
01:32:15.000 --> 01:32:17.800
it was a fucking room, we
would probably have fun in there. Yeah,

1306
01:32:17.800 --> 01:32:24.840
so some of the forest I thought
was fairly boring. But guys,

1307
01:32:25.159 --> 01:32:27.960
with games like that, there's a
sweet spot because like if it's too involved

1308
01:32:28.079 --> 01:32:30.960
in terms of the things you need
to do, then it's too much trying

1309
01:32:30.000 --> 01:32:32.880
to figure her stuff out and you
have to be too business like, Okay,

1310
01:32:32.920 --> 01:32:34.840
you gotta go do you go build
this thing. I gotta go do

1311
01:32:34.920 --> 01:32:39.600
this, you know, Whereas something
like like I like doing like Fortnite.

1312
01:32:39.640 --> 01:32:42.760
The times I've done that a multiplayer, it's like it's great for like you

1313
01:32:42.840 --> 01:32:45.960
can just chat with your friends.
You can catch up and have actual conversations

1314
01:32:45.000 --> 01:32:47.039
and stuff, and it's broken up
every once in a while, but like,

1315
01:32:47.079 --> 01:32:49.680
okay, here, let's go let's
land here, let's go here.

1316
01:32:49.760 --> 01:32:51.760
Oh shit, we got a guy
over here. But like you can just

1317
01:32:51.840 --> 01:32:55.880
kind of catch up and everything,
like Lethal Company is kind of on that

1318
01:32:55.960 --> 01:32:58.680
wavelength of like every time you get
there, it's like, okay, we

1319
01:32:58.720 --> 01:33:00.319
got to talk about where's the main
in and then like hey, did you

1320
01:33:00.399 --> 01:33:03.279
check out this room? Or oh
shit, there's a spider there. But

1321
01:33:03.399 --> 01:33:05.840
you can't kind of like talk and
just kind of fuck with each other while

1322
01:33:05.840 --> 01:33:12.399
you're playing it. Absolutely, I
think it's I'm not gonna stop talking about

1323
01:33:12.439 --> 01:33:15.239
it. I think it's one of
the best games I've played in a long

1324
01:33:15.399 --> 01:33:18.640
time. And uh, I'd like
to play it again with you guys.

1325
01:33:18.760 --> 01:33:26.079
But Mike, maybe some homework to
do ten levels of Snake Bird and tell

1326
01:33:26.159 --> 01:33:29.079
me what you think about it.
I'd be curious your thoughts on it.

1327
01:33:29.319 --> 01:33:31.479
I'm also curious. This is an
additional request, but I actually am quite

1328
01:33:31.520 --> 01:33:34.279
curious on Bonk's thoughts on it,
because like every once in a while,

1329
01:33:34.359 --> 01:33:36.239
Bunk will be like, this game
is rat and I'll be like, oh,

1330
01:33:36.560 --> 01:33:41.119
and I get excited when she likes
she has a great eye for that

1331
01:33:41.199 --> 01:33:45.680
stuff. I know I've got the
twenty twenty four categories list up, so

1332
01:33:45.760 --> 01:33:48.319
you know what for the next year, whenever we know something would be good,

1333
01:33:48.319 --> 01:33:50.800
per Like, I've got a bookmarked, I can easily go in there.

1334
01:33:50.840 --> 01:33:55.479
I added Snake Bird, the Best
Playing Game, and Lethal Company for

1335
01:33:55.560 --> 01:33:58.479
Rest play with Bud, so I
will I will keep a se domination throughout

1336
01:33:58.520 --> 01:34:01.439
the year. Yeah, shouldn't print
should be added to Best Dewey Oh yeah,

1337
01:34:01.479 --> 01:34:04.079
yeah, certainly, yes, yes, yes, definitely. I like

1338
01:34:04.199 --> 01:34:06.840
this. I like we can't you
should not. We should not do a

1339
01:34:06.960 --> 01:34:10.920
running list of nominees for Game of
the Year, though, because then that'll

1340
01:34:10.960 --> 01:34:15.319
get really long and research. But
we build that one on the on the

1341
01:34:15.359 --> 01:34:17.720
podcast anyway. We we had a
blank dock when we started that. Yeah.

1342
01:34:17.800 --> 01:34:25.439
Yeah, but Mary, you've also
played a game I'm very interested in,

1343
01:34:26.800 --> 01:34:30.239
Pacific Drive. Oh yes, But
I will say preliminarily that I played

1344
01:34:30.239 --> 01:34:33.119
a what do you call it,
like an early access version of this game.

1345
01:34:33.239 --> 01:34:36.159
This game isn't out. I played
a preview version and I only played

1346
01:34:36.239 --> 01:34:41.439
like ninety minutes, so I can't
really talk that much about it. It's

1347
01:34:41.479 --> 01:34:44.960
a really neat concept, though,
which I like. It's kind of like,

1348
01:34:45.680 --> 01:34:50.760
uh like trucker truck simulator meets Firewatch. I know that sounds weird,

1349
01:34:50.920 --> 01:34:58.960
but you are driving a car,
but there is like a a force.

1350
01:34:59.439 --> 01:35:01.119
You know, every game. Every
game has like a different word for it,

1351
01:35:01.159 --> 01:35:06.039
where it's like you gotta watch out
because the the miasma will get you,

1352
01:35:06.319 --> 01:35:13.119
or like the dark Essence is coming. It has this stuff that you

1353
01:35:13.239 --> 01:35:15.239
can't touch, and it's coming and
it's ever expanding, so you have to

1354
01:35:15.319 --> 01:35:18.439
keep driving your car to get away
with it. But you can run out

1355
01:35:18.479 --> 01:35:23.000
of gas, your car can break
down, and you need stuff, and

1356
01:35:23.119 --> 01:35:28.279
so you have to stop your car
all the time, siphon gas, change

1357
01:35:28.319 --> 01:35:31.800
your tires, and get stuff from
the world in order to keep progressing.

1358
01:35:32.000 --> 01:35:35.560
It's really interesting and there's a story
built in. There's like a person talking

1359
01:35:35.600 --> 01:35:39.319
to you on the radio that's like, you gotta keep going because we need

1360
01:35:39.399 --> 01:35:43.760
you to get to Sector B.
What is the what was that? Oh

1361
01:35:43.960 --> 01:35:46.600
god, nah, I'm trying to
even think if I have any signifiers.

1362
01:35:47.479 --> 01:35:53.880
Kentucky zero No, I Love Kentucky
zero. That was like all talkie baby.

1363
01:35:54.319 --> 01:35:58.760
That was the talkiest game of this
generation. It's like a book.

1364
01:35:59.640 --> 01:36:02.520
It was farther back. It was
und Sam and Max hit the room.

1365
01:36:02.640 --> 01:36:09.359
Now you're it's like a zombie survival
game where you're moving your car turn based

1366
01:36:09.800 --> 01:36:14.359
state of decay. Oh my god, I know exactly what you're talking about.

1367
01:36:14.399 --> 01:36:16.840
It was polygone looking. It was
an early what was the what's the

1368
01:36:16.880 --> 01:36:21.680
publisher that's big now? But it
was one of their early No. Sorry,

1369
01:36:23.600 --> 01:36:26.560
as soon as I brought it up, I knew I didn't have enough

1370
01:36:26.600 --> 01:36:29.159
words to I'll try to figure it
out, you guys, vamp No,

1371
01:36:29.359 --> 01:36:31.880
I think I know what you're talking
about. Well, maybe I don't,

1372
01:36:32.439 --> 01:36:40.000
isn't it. It was it Capybara. It's like I'm telling you, Adam

1373
01:36:40.079 --> 01:36:47.880
Saltzman, that's right, that's right, got it. It was Overland.

1374
01:36:48.439 --> 01:36:54.840
Oh, I remember this game.
I played at A. I played this

1375
01:36:54.880 --> 01:36:57.720
game at A like that. It
did not get it did not get the

1376
01:36:57.800 --> 01:37:01.439
love it deserved. I think.
Yeh, Mike, I'll let you say

1377
01:37:01.560 --> 01:37:06.399
I I think it was a really
interesting concept. I thought it was a

1378
01:37:06.439 --> 01:37:12.720
little boring. It was. It
had a lot to be desired on the

1379
01:37:12.760 --> 01:37:15.520
execution side, But I think it
was I just for some reason, Pacific

1380
01:37:15.600 --> 01:37:20.439
Drive reminded me of that says it
is a bit too scary, that's a

1381
01:37:20.520 --> 01:37:26.079
stupid review. The headline just googled. I don't like that. I don't

1382
01:37:26.119 --> 01:37:30.880
agree strategy too scary. Is it
stupid that when I see like I googled

1383
01:37:30.960 --> 01:37:32.600
it and I see it's also on
iOS, I immediately think it's like,

1384
01:37:32.720 --> 01:37:36.279
ah, that can't be that good. More and more and more of these

1385
01:37:36.359 --> 01:37:44.399
days i'd say, that's, uh, that's not a good take me.

1386
01:37:46.199 --> 01:37:50.960
If you I, I don't think
you're probably I think now more and more

1387
01:37:50.960 --> 01:37:56.520
of these days I'm with I have
that same association if something's also on mobile,

1388
01:37:56.560 --> 01:38:00.439
how good exactly? That's a bias. That's like a phone games suck.

1389
01:38:01.560 --> 01:38:04.000
I think there are some really good
mobile games. I when I see

1390
01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:10.119
this something mobile, when I see
this something split between console, slash PC

1391
01:38:10.239 --> 01:38:15.000
and mobile, I tend to assume
the mobile version is less than Okay,

1392
01:38:15.960 --> 01:38:23.560
well, you have to also acknowledge
that the switch is practically a phone.

1393
01:38:23.680 --> 01:38:28.600
Well, but god, I sound
so old, but like there's sticks and

1394
01:38:28.680 --> 01:38:33.560
buttons. It's not old specifically,
just because like tech screen games, unless

1395
01:38:33.640 --> 01:38:39.199
it is like a threes or something
that is very much meant for tech screen,

1396
01:38:39.640 --> 01:38:42.720
I just feel like you don't have
the control over the game that is

1397
01:38:42.800 --> 01:38:45.640
necessary for like the depth that I
like in games, you know, I

1398
01:38:46.039 --> 01:38:50.840
think that's valid. But like,
think about how Snake Bird would probably play

1399
01:38:50.920 --> 01:38:54.319
really well on a phone. That'd
be a good that'd be one of the

1400
01:38:54.359 --> 01:38:59.119
good examples for sure. Yeah.
Right, I understand what you're saying though,

1401
01:38:59.239 --> 01:39:01.399
which is like, it looks like
it's a three D game in any

1402
01:39:01.479 --> 01:39:03.840
capacity, I would be like,
I'm not playing that on a phone.

1403
01:39:03.840 --> 01:39:09.000
I'm gonna get sick. Yeah,
any control that is needed besides swipes up,

1404
01:39:09.039 --> 01:39:11.159
down, left, right, you
know, like I and maybe a

1405
01:39:11.279 --> 01:39:14.960
tap, you know, I just
don't it doesn't work with it. I

1406
01:39:15.039 --> 01:39:17.159
wonder if Snake Bird is on the
I could I could see snake We're totally

1407
01:39:17.159 --> 01:39:20.640
working on it. There's no time
limits, there's no like specific platforming that

1408
01:39:20.720 --> 01:39:23.840
needs to be done. That would
make sense. Yeah, it's on the

1409
01:39:23.880 --> 01:39:27.479
app store. I feel like that
makes sense. I understand what you're saying.

1410
01:39:28.800 --> 01:39:30.920
How did we How did we get
here? Oh right, we're talking

1411
01:39:31.039 --> 01:39:38.920
about Pacific Drive, so the concept
cars cars? Is that your driving?

1412
01:39:40.399 --> 01:39:45.319
Yeah, we've moved on. We've
moved on. I've said my piece about

1413
01:39:45.359 --> 01:39:47.000
I really don't have a lot to
say. I don't I don't think I've

1414
01:39:47.039 --> 01:39:53.239
actually experienced enough to tell you I
need to preview more of it. There's

1415
01:39:53.319 --> 01:39:56.760
not enough preview for me to tell
you like, this is absolutely a killer

1416
01:39:56.840 --> 01:40:00.800
game. What I will say is
like it's a really interesting premise, especially

1417
01:40:00.840 --> 01:40:05.520
if you like stuff where you're like
survival and there's I'm not gonna say horror,

1418
01:40:05.720 --> 01:40:13.479
there's spoopy stuff going on and you're
like trying to solve the mystery.

1419
01:40:13.880 --> 01:40:18.960
I would not consider this game scary. It's more like the environment is telling

1420
01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:21.319
you that if you don't leave,
you'll die, and so you need to

1421
01:40:21.439 --> 01:40:27.279
like continue to move on and scavenge
more stuff from the world. But I

1422
01:40:27.479 --> 01:40:31.079
like that type of game, and
I find driving games cathartic. It's fun

1423
01:40:31.199 --> 01:40:36.880
to be in a car and just
hit ye old town road and it has

1424
01:40:36.920 --> 01:40:41.720
a radio with like a bunch of
different stations. You're constantly able to change

1425
01:40:41.760 --> 01:40:44.920
the stations and listen to different music, which is again why I compared it

1426
01:40:45.039 --> 01:40:49.119
to, you know, a truck
simulator, Like at some point you're kind

1427
01:40:49.159 --> 01:40:59.720
of just driving and that's nice.
Yeah, like if I'm I'm so excited

1428
01:40:59.760 --> 01:41:02.279
for it, but I definitely heard
the early hours can be slow going right,

1429
01:41:02.399 --> 01:41:06.479
It's slow, it's slow, but
that I don't think that's necessarily a

1430
01:41:06.560 --> 01:41:14.600
negative. I don't associate slow with
negative. I associate too much talkie with

1431
01:41:14.680 --> 01:41:18.319
negative. It is dewey. Immediately
in this game, you get in a

1432
01:41:18.399 --> 01:41:21.960
car and drive. It's not like
we have to talk about, you know,

1433
01:41:23.439 --> 01:41:27.560
the happening, something's taking over.
None of that's happening. You're literally

1434
01:41:27.680 --> 01:41:29.920
driving and there's a guy on the
radio that's like, oh my god,

1435
01:41:30.000 --> 01:41:32.359
let me tell you about the calamity. But the whole time you're driving,

1436
01:41:32.720 --> 01:41:36.920
which I'm fine with. I'm fine
with someone explaining to me the rules of

1437
01:41:36.960 --> 01:41:41.119
the game and how we got there, and like, you know, the

1438
01:41:41.199 --> 01:41:43.920
fact that I'm looking for my long
dead sister whatever the fuck it is.

1439
01:41:44.920 --> 01:41:48.720
Driving helps smooth out that process.
So I'm not bored. Okay, I

1440
01:41:48.760 --> 01:41:53.000
still want to check it out for
sure, But there is no long dead

1441
01:41:53.039 --> 01:41:55.199
sister. I made that part up. Oh okay. I was like,

1442
01:41:55.279 --> 01:41:58.840
I did not know that about the
plot, no, I added, I

1443
01:41:58.960 --> 01:42:01.119
added her. I thought I thought
the game needed it. You're you and

1444
01:42:01.199 --> 01:42:04.640
the you and the wife and the
fridge sister in the fridge. It's always

1445
01:42:04.680 --> 01:42:10.239
you. I always love killing women
for plot movement. I think that they're

1446
01:42:10.319 --> 01:42:15.159
the easiest ones to get rid of
and it always works. You can't kill

1447
01:42:15.239 --> 01:42:20.199
Keanu Reeves and have the movie progress. You gotta find another way around it.

1448
01:42:20.520 --> 01:42:25.279
That's me the movie critic. God, we're really just stuck to that

1449
01:42:25.439 --> 01:42:29.239
with like, Hey, you're gonna
kill your own wife and then her ashes

1450
01:42:29.279 --> 01:42:32.560
are stuck to your face, Like
that's that's really going forward with that.

1451
01:42:33.439 --> 01:42:41.600
Yep, it's a really good example
about masculinity. You guys want to do

1452
01:42:41.680 --> 01:42:47.840
emails? Yeah, uh as usual
right into firescape cast at gmail dot com.

1453
01:42:48.159 --> 01:42:53.760
We put out a call last episode
to get the twenty twenty four momentum

1454
01:42:53.840 --> 01:42:57.359
going and got a lot of entries. Appreciate it. Keeping coming though firescape

1455
01:42:57.399 --> 01:43:00.760
cast at gmail dot com. We
could think about video games, but it's

1456
01:43:00.800 --> 01:43:08.640
more fun when it's not secretly.
But yeah, thank people writing in uh

1457
01:43:09.680 --> 01:43:13.520
Dan or rather I'm sorry Mary.
Do you want to read this one?

1458
01:43:13.600 --> 01:43:17.720
From Josh the Canadian? It's my
ear, Hey, fire Escape Cast,

1459
01:43:17.960 --> 01:43:23.960
I'm approaching forty and I've started contemplating
my own mortality. I'm sorry to hear

1460
01:43:24.039 --> 01:43:29.840
that. We welcome to the crew. It took you so long? How

1461
01:43:29.920 --> 01:43:38.319
much time do I have left?
That's the questions stop At the end of

1462
01:43:38.359 --> 01:43:41.920
sorry, I can't help it.
I wasn't prepared for him to ask me

1463
01:43:42.039 --> 01:43:46.319
how much time he has left.
This is a dialogue he's asking himself.

1464
01:43:46.319 --> 01:43:51.359
You know, I understand. I'm
still not prepared to answer these. Okay,

1465
01:43:51.439 --> 01:43:55.159
I'm back to the email. Will
they be good years or bad?

1466
01:43:55.880 --> 01:44:00.239
Will my penis stop working someday?
You know that kind of stuff. This

1467
01:44:00.720 --> 01:44:02.880
this got me thinking, if I
had the option when I turned forty,

1468
01:44:02.960 --> 01:44:10.640
I would rather live the next forty
years aging as normal or in reverse Benjamin

1469
01:44:10.720 --> 01:44:15.800
Button style. Off, I figure
I'll be shitting into a diaper one way

1470
01:44:15.960 --> 01:44:19.640
or another. But aside from that, there are some interesting pros and cons

1471
01:44:19.720 --> 01:44:26.119
to both, plus a whole range
of creepy moral conundrums to boot. What

1472
01:44:26.399 --> 01:44:30.760
say each of you when you turn
forty, would you rather continue to age

1473
01:44:30.840 --> 01:44:36.399
forward or in reverse? Happy pondering
Josh the Canadian, I mean, so,

1474
01:44:36.520 --> 01:44:41.039
yeah, we either keep going forward
to eighty or go backwards to zero.

1475
01:44:41.119 --> 01:44:44.159
Feel that time fans is the same. Let's say, you know we're

1476
01:44:44.199 --> 01:44:46.880
going to live to eighty either way. You know, it's just I feel

1477
01:44:46.920 --> 01:44:50.319
like I would want to keep going
forward. I think because I think,

1478
01:44:50.439 --> 01:44:56.279
you know, one of the benefits
of getting older is that you are smarter

1479
01:44:56.399 --> 01:44:58.960
and you realize the shit you did
when you were younger was stupid, and

1480
01:44:59.000 --> 01:45:03.399
things like that smart button retain the
brain. I'm not saying you revert,

1481
01:45:03.640 --> 01:45:10.640
No, I'm saying that, like
I think the look matching your age,

1482
01:45:10.960 --> 01:45:14.119
you know, being an old wizard, you want to look like an idiot

1483
01:45:14.560 --> 01:45:17.560
twenty five year old and I start
growing hair again and I'm skinnier and all

1484
01:45:17.640 --> 01:45:21.760
that stuff. But I'm like,
I like that is a look when you

1485
01:45:21.880 --> 01:45:26.479
are a young, dumbass twenty something. You know that is, and that

1486
01:45:26.600 --> 01:45:29.560
was fine for then, But like
as I get older and you know,

1487
01:45:29.680 --> 01:45:32.159
wiser and all that stuff, I'm
fine looking that way. I think where

1488
01:45:32.199 --> 01:45:36.840
it gets difficult is the things breaking
down. So like if I do go

1489
01:45:36.920 --> 01:45:41.600
and reverse, if I choose that, am I suddenly not getting as much

1490
01:45:41.640 --> 01:45:45.960
back pain? Am I suddenly you
know like all like will you will you

1491
01:45:46.119 --> 01:45:50.159
loose? Do you get your like
all of your what do you call it?

1492
01:45:50.359 --> 01:45:55.279
When you get a cavity? Do
those get like sucked out? Yeah?

1493
01:45:55.640 --> 01:45:58.600
If your teeth go back pure?
Do I get my first set of

1494
01:45:58.680 --> 01:46:00.079
teeth? Bag I would have I'd
say, when you're a baby, you're

1495
01:46:00.079 --> 01:46:05.399
not gonna have your old man teeth, you know, with old man teeth.

1496
01:46:05.439 --> 01:46:09.920
I have old man teeth now,
yeah, I back into your gums.

1497
01:46:10.640 --> 01:46:14.039
I have to say, though,
it's really appealing as someone who like

1498
01:46:14.239 --> 01:46:18.279
I. I severely hurt both my
ankles in gymnastics, and as I get

1499
01:46:18.359 --> 01:46:24.920
older, I feel that I know
that when I'm not not today, not

1500
01:46:25.039 --> 01:46:28.760
tomorrow, when I hit like sixty
or something, all of a sudden,

1501
01:46:28.840 --> 01:46:31.520
it's gonna be like cool, my
ankles are like shot and fucked up,

1502
01:46:31.640 --> 01:46:34.520
and my knees started. I can
feel my knee like starting to do some

1503
01:46:34.640 --> 01:46:42.439
weird stuff. I'm all about aging
in reverse that way. I imagine being

1504
01:46:43.079 --> 01:46:45.960
seventy, well, I guess you'd
be ten. Imagine being like sixty five

1505
01:46:46.159 --> 01:46:53.039
and being like at your prime skiing
and you're like, I'm fucking killing it.

1506
01:46:53.319 --> 01:46:57.800
Because I am shaped like a fifteen
year old and I have the knees

1507
01:46:58.520 --> 01:47:02.720
of a young buck. I can
absolutely take on this black diamond. It's

1508
01:47:02.960 --> 01:47:06.079
awesome that I would be able to
do those types of sports and things like

1509
01:47:06.159 --> 01:47:10.279
that at that age. So I
love the idea of going backwards, But

1510
01:47:10.359 --> 01:47:13.319
what if it's like I don't want
to go backwards. I don't want to

1511
01:47:13.359 --> 01:47:16.800
see. Well, he mentions me, this is a hypothetical, and we're

1512
01:47:16.800 --> 01:47:21.439
all going to age like normal and
die. If if the body stuff reverts

1513
01:47:21.479 --> 01:47:25.359
and gets healthier and everything, then
that is a very attractive thing of like

1514
01:47:25.399 --> 01:47:28.439
the idea of like, oh I'm
not hurt as much. But then also

1515
01:47:28.560 --> 01:47:30.359
it's like, look, we all
have you know, partners and stuff here

1516
01:47:30.840 --> 01:47:34.479
that is weird. We're like,
how does that work? Where it's like

1517
01:47:34.840 --> 01:47:39.399
I'm you know, like I'm getting
younger, my partner's getting older. That

1518
01:47:39.520 --> 01:47:43.000
gets weird. That's what he's talking
about with the creepy moral conundrums. So

1519
01:47:43.800 --> 01:47:48.039
there are more complications with reversing things. You're going to go before puberty.

1520
01:47:48.399 --> 01:47:54.159
Your balls are going to go back
up. My voice changes again. Yeah,

1521
01:47:54.239 --> 01:47:57.560
but when you're seventy, you're not
fucking that much either. Speak for

1522
01:47:57.640 --> 01:48:01.039
yourself. I plan on doing quite
a bit. I bet you will be.

1523
01:48:01.439 --> 01:48:04.239
I mean, I guess I don't
know, but like I would assume

1524
01:48:04.279 --> 01:48:09.279
the statistics of impotence is pretty high
at that point. It might not be

1525
01:48:09.359 --> 01:48:13.319
up to you, but yeah,
I'm gonna be. We're gonna us two

1526
01:48:13.399 --> 01:48:18.720
will be slamming. I guarantee it. We're gonna when when I'm eighty,

1527
01:48:19.159 --> 01:48:27.560
we're gonna film us and then mail
it to all of our friends. You're

1528
01:48:27.560 --> 01:48:30.760
gonna mail it to me a ten
year old. You're going to jail.

1529
01:48:31.760 --> 01:48:36.279
You're going to prison zero by that
point, you can't send me poorn,

1530
01:48:36.359 --> 01:48:42.520
you old freak. Sorry, we're
going on a list. I got you

1531
01:48:44.760 --> 01:48:50.199
finally took me down, been threatening
murder and then Benjamin related calculation For Mike

1532
01:48:50.279 --> 01:49:00.319
Mhardy, I always knew would be
something old geezer, that all geezer with

1533
01:49:00.399 --> 01:49:12.239
a boner in his eighty year old
hot one. I think I would I

1534
01:49:12.279 --> 01:49:15.960
would definitely rather keep aging. But
also, like from a very narcissistic standpoint,

1535
01:49:16.079 --> 01:49:21.560
I think I'm at this point,
I'm thirty two. I think I've

1536
01:49:21.680 --> 01:49:27.439
consistently I'm sure I'll hit a wall
where I stop getting better looking. I

1537
01:49:27.600 --> 01:49:30.239
think I've gotten better looking than compared
when I was younger. It's true,

1538
01:49:30.319 --> 01:49:35.319
we've seen we've seen young photos.
You have absolutely gotten more attractive, And

1539
01:49:35.439 --> 01:49:41.560
I think that's stereotypical of men,
that they tend to get better looking as

1540
01:49:41.600 --> 01:49:45.159
they age. But that's also because
of like beauty norms. Sure, according

1541
01:49:45.199 --> 01:49:47.479
to today's beauty norms, I think
I've gotten better looking, and I don't

1542
01:49:47.520 --> 01:49:49.920
want to go back to like what
I looked like last year or the year

1543
01:49:49.960 --> 01:49:55.680
before, like or when I was
a fucking teenager with more acne than face.

1544
01:49:56.119 --> 01:50:00.960
This kind where it's like, imagine
like career stuff, where if you

1545
01:50:01.079 --> 01:50:05.840
look like you're fucking twenty two,
you're not gonna have a job worth anything,

1546
01:50:06.000 --> 01:50:11.279
you know. Like again though,
this is where the patriarchy comes into

1547
01:50:11.319 --> 01:50:15.520
play, because a twenty two year
old dude that's like the CEO of some

1548
01:50:15.680 --> 01:50:21.640
company and he's actually like fifty might
work, whereas like it's I swear to

1549
01:50:21.720 --> 01:50:27.560
god, there's like a weird stigma
with that. With girls, that would

1550
01:50:27.560 --> 01:50:30.560
be harder. I think as a
lady, wouldn't anyone twenty one or twenty

1551
01:50:30.600 --> 01:50:35.039
two looking like wouldn't people not take
them seriously because they would just assume your

1552
01:50:35.119 --> 01:50:39.319
dad owns the dealership. They would
just give you, They would just throw

1553
01:50:39.359 --> 01:50:44.359
you a buon. Yeah, A
twenty two being playing completely off stereotypes,

1554
01:50:44.439 --> 01:50:46.640
A twenty two year old guy ceo
is a prodigy. A twenty two year

1555
01:50:46.680 --> 01:50:51.119
old woman ceo, I think go
on would assume some things about how she

1556
01:50:51.199 --> 01:50:55.239
climbed the ladder. One hundred percent, thank you, Mike. And these

1557
01:50:55.279 --> 01:50:59.359
are things like that, they're like
kind of deeply embedded or rooted in the

1558
01:50:59.439 --> 01:51:01.840
back of our Like you might not
say it out loud, but if you

1559
01:51:02.000 --> 01:51:08.239
saw a twenty two year old CEO, you'd be like, what's that story?

1560
01:51:08.439 --> 01:51:10.880
Whereas like it's yeah, like a
lot of times when you just see

1561
01:51:10.920 --> 01:51:15.560
a young, young dude CEO,
you're just like, I guess he's genius.

1562
01:51:15.159 --> 01:51:19.239
Like all the young dude CEOs seem
like douchebaggs, right, absolutely,

1563
01:51:19.479 --> 01:51:25.680
but you never assumed that they fucked
their way there as much. Yeah,

1564
01:51:27.600 --> 01:51:32.399
yeah, I think aging backward would
be easier for professional lives, would be

1565
01:51:32.399 --> 01:51:36.319
easier for Dan and Dan and I
one hundred percent. But I've been dealing

1566
01:51:36.359 --> 01:51:41.079
with misogyny my whole life. I
want young knees. I'm going backwards,

1567
01:51:41.279 --> 01:51:45.520
and I'm going to become a skiing
legend. You've accepted sexism for the rest

1568
01:51:45.560 --> 01:51:49.720
of your your knees. I am. I am a seasoned professional. I'm

1569
01:51:49.840 --> 01:51:58.039
going skiing. I'm also like,
yeah, I'm trying to think of other

1570
01:51:58.159 --> 01:52:00.560
It's oh god, I probably couldn't
get into bars by the time I'm fifty

1571
01:52:00.640 --> 01:52:10.960
five, sixty but wait, your
ID. You have certificate that says you're

1572
01:52:11.039 --> 01:52:15.479
fucking born twenty ten or whenever you
were born. Yeah, I don't think

1573
01:52:15.520 --> 01:52:19.239
any bouncer would see this ten year
old look motherfucker and say, this guy's

1574
01:52:19.239 --> 01:52:25.239
seventy legal documents. Get legal documents
show him. When I was twenty one,

1575
01:52:25.319 --> 01:52:27.680
I showed my ID to bouncers who
still didn't let me, and they

1576
01:52:27.680 --> 01:52:30.439
didn't think it was that that was
fake. Was insulted when I get carded

1577
01:52:30.520 --> 01:52:34.039
now, like it's almost like who
we resulted? No, See, it's

1578
01:52:34.439 --> 01:52:40.680
seeing the difference old and this beard. You know I'm not fucking twenty years

1579
01:52:40.720 --> 01:52:44.520
old. It makes my goddamn day. There's no way they're mistaking me for

1580
01:52:44.560 --> 01:52:46.680
a twenty year old. It's insulting. That's not why they're doing it.

1581
01:52:46.720 --> 01:52:53.319
The cautious bars are doing it because
technically the police often send UH stinger whatever

1582
01:52:53.319 --> 01:52:59.479
you want to call them, old
Harry dude, that's clearly past twenty one,

1583
01:52:59.560 --> 01:53:02.439
and then he's like gotcha, And
bouncers don't want to pay bars don't

1584
01:53:02.439 --> 01:53:08.359
want to pay the crazy fine for
it. When I worked at the Liquor

1585
01:53:08.399 --> 01:53:11.439
Story, they gave us two hundred
bucks for every uh every fake ID we

1586
01:53:11.560 --> 01:53:17.680
grabbed, so you were instead of
why what is the store owner's incentive?

1587
01:53:18.000 --> 01:53:20.960
I think just not getting in trouble. I think if you were caught selling

1588
01:53:21.000 --> 01:53:24.199
the miners, it would probably be
a problem. Right, So if you

1589
01:53:24.239 --> 01:53:27.800
can like more, yeah it's a
good job. You know, here's a

1590
01:53:27.840 --> 01:53:30.319
couple hundred bucks. Yeah, okay, I see that. Let kids be

1591
01:53:30.399 --> 01:53:33.720
a little ship back. We had
a courtboard up right by the entrance where

1592
01:53:33.720 --> 01:53:35.640
it's like all the fake id's.
You know, you would take the pake

1593
01:53:35.680 --> 01:53:39.079
idea and then hey, look at
that fucker. You can't do that here,

1594
01:53:39.239 --> 01:53:44.880
mine's probably up there. I had
multiple fake IDs ripped in twine in

1595
01:53:44.960 --> 01:53:46.760
front of my eyes when I was
young. I was too afraid to get

1596
01:53:46.800 --> 01:53:48.880
him because it was against the laws. So I wouldn't do it because it

1597
01:53:48.960 --> 01:53:54.079
was bad. Oh you little bitch. I was fucking printing those out and

1598
01:53:54.279 --> 01:53:58.319
constantly getting them swiped. I got
away with murder. When I was a

1599
01:53:58.399 --> 01:54:02.319
teenager, I had a guy I
a bouncer at a bar a twenty one

1600
01:54:02.359 --> 01:54:05.439
and up. It was like a
club, like a nightclub. I watched

1601
01:54:05.520 --> 01:54:10.399
him pick at the edge and I
was I kind of did that thing where

1602
01:54:10.439 --> 01:54:12.680
I like probably like was sweating a
little bit, and I was like,

1603
01:54:13.640 --> 01:54:15.479
what are we gonna be here all
night? And the guy looked at me

1604
01:54:15.720 --> 01:54:18.880
and ripped it in front of me
and was like, you want to go

1605
01:54:19.920 --> 01:54:25.399
downtown? And I was like no, and then I just like walked away

1606
01:54:25.640 --> 01:54:30.079
like he ripped my actual ID when
it was my fault. But you got

1607
01:54:30.119 --> 01:54:32.159
it. At that point, I
was so far in You just have to

1608
01:54:32.359 --> 01:54:36.479
pretend that they ruined your life.
Wow, and you run like hell.

1609
01:54:39.479 --> 01:54:42.119
I got an MP when I was
eighteen, didn't didn't fuck with that past

1610
01:54:42.199 --> 01:54:44.520
that. I went to a bar
that didn't card and I thought, oh,

1611
01:54:44.560 --> 01:54:46.279
this is great. All these freshmen
are legal too. I know it

1612
01:54:46.359 --> 01:54:48.239
was illegal, but it was like
I thought I could get away with it.

1613
01:54:48.560 --> 01:54:51.920
And then I was having a drink
on the on the deck, and

1614
01:54:53.199 --> 01:54:55.880
I'll never forget because I was eighteen
and I was like, going to college,

1615
01:54:55.920 --> 01:54:58.079
I'm gonna be able to drink,
I can doctor girls and stuff like

1616
01:54:58.119 --> 01:55:00.640
that. I'm gonna be everything's going
to be coming up. And I was

1617
01:55:00.720 --> 01:55:03.840
so nervous around girls. And I
remember I was drinking a beer at a

1618
01:55:03.880 --> 01:55:08.079
bar one of the first times ever, and I was talking to a girl

1619
01:55:08.119 --> 01:55:10.560
that like, oh my god,
this is actually like we're hitting it off.

1620
01:55:10.600 --> 01:55:13.520
This is good. And then I
look up this story. What's that

1621
01:55:13.680 --> 01:55:18.720
look at this girl? All of
a sudden there's a bright light. I

1622
01:55:18.760 --> 01:55:21.760
go ha, and I look up
and there's a cop on the deck and

1623
01:55:23.000 --> 01:55:25.600
just shining a flashlight in my face. He's like, got an ID And

1624
01:55:25.640 --> 01:55:28.720
I was like, oh, fucking
like. I never had a pick idea

1625
01:55:28.720 --> 01:55:30.960
because I was too afraid of that. But I was like, oh,

1626
01:55:30.119 --> 01:55:33.600
he's got me dead to rights here. And it was like four hundred and

1627
01:55:33.640 --> 01:55:38.880
fifty dollars MIP minor in possession ticket
like all that, Like, didn't get

1628
01:55:38.880 --> 01:55:42.239
a rest, you got a ticket. It's uh and four hundred and fifty

1629
01:55:42.239 --> 01:55:46.199
dollars back then, was fucking that
with your dad? No? No,

1630
01:55:46.359 --> 01:55:48.600
I mean I paid for and stuff, you know, was the cop?

1631
01:55:48.840 --> 01:55:56.760
Yeah? Actually no, there was
a cop friend in the college time.

1632
01:55:56.800 --> 01:55:58.880
They got me out of some later
stuff. But no, I had to

1633
01:55:58.920 --> 01:56:01.439
pay for that one. So well, I thought you're gonna tell a story

1634
01:56:01.479 --> 01:56:05.800
about I think your friend was like
telling you about you just gotta be confident.

1635
01:56:05.840 --> 01:56:10.239
And then you went to like taking
the beer off the dooh, I

1636
01:56:10.439 --> 01:56:13.720
know what you're talking about. And
it's still the funniest thing I've ever seen

1637
01:56:13.760 --> 01:56:16.560
in my fucking life. We're at
the jet Lag and Lawrence, Kansas.

1638
01:56:16.680 --> 01:56:18.880
We were of age, you know, we were like twenty one twenty two.

1639
01:56:19.680 --> 01:56:24.119
My buddy, I'll just say his
first name here. His name is

1640
01:56:24.159 --> 01:56:29.119
Brad, and Brad was We're just
sitting there at the bar. It's like

1641
01:56:29.279 --> 01:56:32.960
one thirty and we're just single dorks
at the bar and we're just kind of

1642
01:56:33.319 --> 01:56:36.560
rab I can't why can't we meet
me one? Why can't we just being

1643
01:56:36.560 --> 01:56:40.640
at dumb twenty one year old assholes
or whatever? And it's like, oh,

1644
01:56:40.680 --> 01:56:42.680
we just you know, why do
we suck? Why why can't we

1645
01:56:42.720 --> 01:56:45.399
meet anyone? And he goes,
you know what, I'm tired of this,

1646
01:56:45.520 --> 01:56:46.920
Dan, I'm tired of being a
loser. I'm tired of like I'm

1647
01:56:46.960 --> 01:56:50.520
gonna make it happen tonight before last
call. And he looks across the bar.

1648
01:56:51.399 --> 01:56:55.760
There's two girls sitting there by themselves. He goes, I'm gonna go

1649
01:56:55.840 --> 01:56:58.600
talk to them, dud. I'm
gonna get up right now. I'm gonna

1650
01:56:58.760 --> 01:57:00.960
orders a beer a pressure and goes, I'm gonna walk over there with his

1651
01:57:01.000 --> 01:57:04.119
fresh beer. I'm gonna walk over
there, and I've got I've got more

1652
01:57:04.239 --> 01:57:09.760
game right now than I've ever had
at any point in my life. And

1653
01:57:09.880 --> 01:57:13.720
like he is doing a fucking any
given Sunday speech about how he's about to

1654
01:57:13.800 --> 01:57:16.960
get laid tonight. He the new
beer arrives, he grabs it, he

1655
01:57:17.000 --> 01:57:20.399
makes a point like, and he
stands up and he pulls the beer towards

1656
01:57:20.479 --> 01:57:24.840
himself. But there's like a little
lip on the bar, right, and

1657
01:57:24.960 --> 01:57:28.960
so the beer hits the lip and
it all pours directly on his crotch.

1658
01:57:29.720 --> 01:57:34.279
Just he does this giant speech and
pulls pours a full fucking new beer all

1659
01:57:34.359 --> 01:57:39.479
over his dick and just sat down, the most dejected human being I've ever

1660
01:57:39.560 --> 01:57:44.279
seen. And I laughed so fucking
hard here. Oh, I was like

1661
01:57:44.520 --> 01:57:48.800
crying, laughing, just amazing.
It's really good. That's gotta be in

1662
01:57:48.800 --> 01:57:56.760
a movie someday. I people,
it would not look natural to see a

1663
01:57:56.920 --> 01:58:00.479
baby in a button down linen shirt
with a sweater tied around his neck drinking

1664
01:58:00.560 --> 01:58:02.800
wine. You wouldn't trust the French, you wouldn't trust that kid. No,

1665
01:58:03.279 --> 01:58:06.079
it would be weird. I don't
want to see a baby at my

1666
01:58:06.319 --> 01:58:10.520
wine tasting in France. No,
it sounds cool to be like an old

1667
01:58:10.600 --> 01:58:13.000
dude, right, Like just being
like an old dude and that's like got

1668
01:58:13.079 --> 01:58:15.920
some life experience and stories and stuff
like that. I embrace that. That's

1669
01:58:16.000 --> 01:58:18.880
fine, I felt. I don't
know. I found my old meershawn pipe

1670
01:58:18.920 --> 01:58:21.920
at my parents over the holidays and
thinking about getting back into that. Is

1671
01:58:21.960 --> 01:58:28.039
that pipe the pipe tobacco? You
can do that as a baby. Imagine

1672
01:58:28.159 --> 01:58:31.800
being in a bar and seeing a
six year old with a pipe that is

1673
01:58:31.960 --> 01:58:38.159
telling war stories. That sounds oddest, arms and shit and physical stuff isn't

1674
01:58:38.159 --> 01:58:40.920
going to be as like he's going
to lose all that control when he's a

1675
01:58:41.159 --> 01:58:46.840
dumb baby that's six. You can
hold a pipe like you will, dignified

1676
01:58:46.960 --> 01:58:55.479
like you're you're seventy four, and
would understand our skills to act like an

1677
01:58:55.479 --> 01:58:58.600
old person. I'm sure your muscle
memory keep acting. That's a question,

1678
01:58:58.720 --> 01:59:00.279
though, does your muscle memory start
to revert, because I think so.

1679
01:59:00.600 --> 01:59:04.640
I think all the physical stuff is
good and bad gonna you know, you

1680
01:59:04.720 --> 01:59:08.600
still have the knowledge of how an
adult should move, and but you've got

1681
01:59:08.640 --> 01:59:13.079
a stupid baby body like that's not
going to translate years old. You're not

1682
01:59:13.239 --> 01:59:16.520
a baby. At six, you
are functional? Are you an adult?

1683
01:59:16.800 --> 01:59:21.479
Six? You can function? Dan? Have you ever seen the show Old

1684
01:59:21.600 --> 01:59:25.920
Enough? No? You told me
about that where kids doing chores and stuff.

1685
01:59:26.039 --> 01:59:29.920
I think you can see it on
Netflix on Old Enough. The kids

1686
01:59:29.960 --> 01:59:33.000
are like five fucking years old and
the mom is like, here's twenty bucks.

1687
01:59:33.239 --> 01:59:36.800
Go get me some rice and some
noodles and come home. And the

1688
01:59:36.920 --> 01:59:42.239
kids like, okay, they are
stupid, but they are functionally able to

1689
01:59:42.359 --> 01:59:46.720
be like the store is this way, and here's money in exchange for groceries

1690
01:59:46.760 --> 01:59:50.399
and carry them home like that is
not baby, that is low bar.

1691
01:59:50.600 --> 01:59:54.359
They don't know what the money's worth. They didn't earn it, you know.

1692
01:59:54.720 --> 02:00:00.399
Like it's just like seventy four.
You also are like here there's some

1693
02:00:00.680 --> 02:00:03.960
money, I'm gonna fart, and
like you're not that present either. Like,

1694
02:00:04.039 --> 02:00:06.239
let's be real, you can be
kind of a cool old guy,

1695
02:00:06.399 --> 02:00:10.239
right, I think you could be
cool at seventy four. I shouldn't mean

1696
02:00:10.720 --> 02:00:16.159
carrying the rock. Sean Connery maybe
not actually a cool guy. Let's see,

1697
02:00:16.399 --> 02:00:21.079
I know eighty year olds who Sean
Connery still do cool stuff. Was

1698
02:00:21.079 --> 02:00:25.039
born in nineteen thirty. The Rock
came out in ninety six, So he

1699
02:00:25.279 --> 02:00:30.680
was sixty six, Okay, all
right, ten years is a lot that

1700
02:00:30.880 --> 02:00:34.880
Ideeah, ten years is a lot. I will say, like my dad

1701
02:00:35.000 --> 02:00:39.239
is turning seventy this year. Like, my dad is functional, he's coherent,

1702
02:00:39.359 --> 02:00:42.800
he's got it going on. He's
like, uh, he's probably too

1703
02:00:42.880 --> 02:00:46.319
witty and a bit of a he's
a bit of a spicy guy. Like,

1704
02:00:47.119 --> 02:00:53.479
but you know, eighty, I
feel like you're starting to push it

1705
02:00:54.000 --> 02:00:56.039
rough. Well, no, we're
dying at eighty. Keep in mind,

1706
02:00:56.199 --> 02:00:59.399
so right, matter what happened in
this university, I mean that's like,

1707
02:01:00.199 --> 02:01:03.119
once you're eighty, that's kind of
quality lives. You don't see a lot

1708
02:01:03.159 --> 02:01:06.520
of eighty year old running married.
You don't want those years. They always

1709
02:01:06.640 --> 02:01:17.640
say, I'm gonna keep slugging merlow
pounding. He's pointing offscreen and saying wife

1710
02:01:17.760 --> 02:01:25.760
ass ye. They heard that and
saw that taping it. Just wait,

1711
02:01:26.439 --> 02:01:30.279
just wait, mark your calendars for
how many fucking years from now? Forty

1712
02:01:30.359 --> 02:01:33.199
you're eight seventeen. I don't know, I'm thirty two. Okay, I'm

1713
02:01:33.199 --> 02:01:38.600
gonna be hitting the slopes six years
old with a pipe in my mouth,

1714
02:01:40.399 --> 02:01:44.840
slinging war store. I don't know
whose is more unrealistic. Well, thank

1715
02:01:44.880 --> 02:01:49.359
you Josh the Canadian Dan. Do
you want to read this one from Troy?

1716
02:01:49.640 --> 02:01:54.840
Yeah, Hello, Fire Escape Artists. I am currently catching up on

1717
02:01:54.920 --> 02:01:59.159
last year's podcast, but I saw
news on Twitter of Dan's broken fingy to

1718
02:01:59.279 --> 02:02:02.239
use the medical for his doctor used. I wish Dan a quick and full

1719
02:02:02.359 --> 02:02:09.199
recovery. This got me wondering what
everyone on the podcast Dumbest Injury is for

1720
02:02:09.359 --> 02:02:12.119
me. A couple of years ago, I pulled something in my back while

1721
02:02:12.159 --> 02:02:15.800
bending over to plug in the Christmas
lights that left me practically bedridden for the

1722
02:02:15.840 --> 02:02:17.760
rest of the week. While I
haven't had anything like it since, I'm

1723
02:02:17.800 --> 02:02:21.199
embarrassed I caused a back problem doing
something so simple while I'm still in my

1724
02:02:21.279 --> 02:02:26.239
mid twenties. Looking forward to hearing
your stories, Troy, I bet he

1725
02:02:26.439 --> 02:02:30.600
would like to age backward? Oh
yeah, have I stopped me? Ify

1726
02:02:30.640 --> 02:02:32.760
folds for the one about the Mortal
Kombat play I wrote for my friend's tenth

1727
02:02:32.800 --> 02:02:38.000
birthday and I went to the hospital. Does that ring a bell? It

1728
02:02:38.199 --> 02:02:42.600
rings a big bell, I don't
so. Basically, I wrote a play

1729
02:02:42.960 --> 02:02:45.239
all based around Mortal Kombat and it
would have been like ninety four for my

1730
02:02:45.279 --> 02:02:48.880
friend's tenth birthday and we did in
his basement which is just exposed concrete,

1731
02:02:49.399 --> 02:02:53.640
and like the parents came down all
that stuff, and I was supposed to

1732
02:02:53.680 --> 02:02:58.279
be I think Scorpion or sub zero
and birthday boy was Johnny Cage. And

1733
02:02:58.640 --> 02:03:01.039
there was a part where Johnny Ky
was supposed to throw a fireball at me,

1734
02:03:01.119 --> 02:03:03.800
you know, the green fireball from
Mortal Kombat. And we bought a

1735
02:03:03.960 --> 02:03:09.680
green couche ball to be that if
you remember coushballs. And he threw it

1736
02:03:09.760 --> 02:03:12.760
at me and I like got hit
with it, and so like I caught

1737
02:03:12.840 --> 02:03:15.840
the ball, and then in the
moment this wasn't planned, I just decided

1738
02:03:15.880 --> 02:03:19.720
to sell it by like I did
a quick front flip to be like,

1739
02:03:19.800 --> 02:03:21.840
you know, oh, I got
hit by it and I flipped and I

1740
02:03:21.960 --> 02:03:26.680
just landed. I'm ten, I
shouldn't My body should have been fine for

1741
02:03:26.760 --> 02:03:30.239
this. And I landed on the
concrete floor and couldn't get up. And

1742
02:03:30.439 --> 02:03:33.239
wait, he did a front flip
on concrete. Well that's your problem.

1743
02:03:33.319 --> 02:03:38.359
That was ten, and no,
at any age, you cannot flip on

1744
02:03:38.520 --> 02:03:43.560
concrete. Well I learned that grass, yes, grass couldn't get up and

1745
02:03:43.640 --> 02:03:45.199
nothing was broken. I just I
don't know what the hell happened? Something

1746
02:03:45.279 --> 02:03:48.560
got hurt and I did go to
the doctor and everything, and there's like,

1747
02:03:48.640 --> 02:03:53.720
oh, you pulled something or whatever, like but yes, I told

1748
02:03:53.840 --> 02:04:00.439
ed Moon that story and you didn't
love it. It's okay. Yeah,

1749
02:04:00.720 --> 02:04:02.239
he was kind of like I told
him like, oh look I love Mortal

1750
02:04:02.319 --> 02:04:04.840
Combat and he was kind of like, oh, I'm sorry you hurt yourself

1751
02:04:04.880 --> 02:04:09.319
like an idiot. Yeah, that's
it. That seems like an ed Boone

1752
02:04:09.319 --> 02:04:14.760
response. Sounds like a dumb child. There's been a few. I'm like

1753
02:04:14.920 --> 02:04:18.560
racking for all of them. I
I told you, I've gotten like very

1754
02:04:18.720 --> 02:04:23.960
seriously electrocuted twice in my life.
Right, Like, where's your skeleton showing?

1755
02:04:24.039 --> 02:04:26.800
Like if I was standing next to
you, I see skeleton. There

1756
02:04:26.920 --> 02:04:29.359
was noness the first time. The
second time, I don't believe my skeleton

1757
02:04:29.399 --> 02:04:32.199
is showing. But I was like
shook. And they were both. When

1758
02:04:32.239 --> 02:04:42.399
I was helping my dad run me
two separate basements house no, no in

1759
02:04:42.479 --> 02:04:45.960
the second first house, second house, I like, okay, the house

1760
02:04:45.159 --> 02:04:49.239
is this? I don't know.
I don't know with two basements, chance

1761
02:04:49.319 --> 02:04:53.359
to laugh, a name, move
back? No, I just like my

1762
02:04:53.760 --> 02:04:57.880
I. The first time, I
was young enough where I was like trying

1763
02:04:57.920 --> 02:05:04.039
to impress my dad by working.
Keep in mind, as a ten year

1764
02:05:04.079 --> 02:05:08.800
old, eleven year old, I
have no working knowledge of electricity. I

1765
02:05:08.840 --> 02:05:13.640
don't understand the first thing about how
an outlet works. I don't understand how

1766
02:05:13.680 --> 02:05:17.079
the prongs interacted. I didn't know
anything. I just walked up to this

1767
02:05:17.239 --> 02:05:21.039
exposed outlet when my dad had gone
away. Somehow in my mind I thought

1768
02:05:21.159 --> 02:05:26.159
I would finish installing the wires in
this particular out How old are you,

1769
02:05:27.199 --> 02:05:30.760
like ten old? Okay? And
I go up and of course I touch

1770
02:05:30.840 --> 02:05:34.840
it and like just to the exposed
wire, and I like it shocked me

1771
02:05:34.880 --> 02:05:40.560
so bad I couldn't let go immediately. Oh my god, that's really dangerous.

1772
02:05:41.000 --> 02:05:44.199
My dad came back and I was
just slumped against the wall next to

1773
02:05:44.359 --> 02:05:47.680
the outlet, like just this vacant
look in my eyes. I probably did

1774
02:05:47.760 --> 02:05:53.800
permanent damage. And I did basically
that again when I was like sixteen,

1775
02:05:54.079 --> 02:05:59.079
to prove him, to prove him
wrong. I just I just I don't

1776
02:05:59.159 --> 02:06:00.720
know. The second time, I
have less of an excuse because I was

1777
02:06:00.800 --> 02:06:10.239
sixteen, and I think it just
didn't occur to me that bringing a screwdriver

1778
02:06:10.479 --> 02:06:14.159
to the outlet like when it was
exposed, wires would mess me up,

1779
02:06:14.199 --> 02:06:17.560
but it did that one. I
actually kind of fell backwards onto the You're

1780
02:06:17.680 --> 02:06:26.079
so lucky you're not sucks. It's
really dangerous. But now I have the

1781
02:06:26.159 --> 02:06:31.199
sex drive of a panther. No
I'm joking, but you're like an X

1782
02:06:31.319 --> 02:06:35.960
man. But you're just like a
free like Colosses. But I just always

1783
02:06:36.000 --> 02:06:47.760
have a boner. That's my mutant
power. That he touched an open wire

1784
02:06:47.800 --> 02:06:51.439
as a kid. Now he can't
fucking put it down. He's gonna go

1785
02:06:51.520 --> 02:06:57.000
to jail. I can get it
up for Assassin's Creed, no problem,

1786
02:06:57.039 --> 02:07:00.520
because I get it up for every
game, can get it up for mobile

1787
02:07:00.560 --> 02:07:08.840
games, gets it up, Yeah, no problem. Mario versus Donkey Kong.

1788
02:07:09.119 --> 02:07:15.000
Yeah. I also I'm trying to
think about their dumb injuries. Oh

1789
02:07:15.399 --> 02:07:24.159
oh, I forgot about this until
this exact moment. We bought a slingshot

1790
02:07:24.279 --> 02:07:28.039
from a cracker barrel country store.
Have you been to a cracker Barrel?

1791
02:07:28.079 --> 02:07:30.720
Oh? Many, many with the
PEG game and all that. Yeah,

1792
02:07:30.760 --> 02:07:33.079
I know for those who know,
if you're not in the States or it's

1793
02:07:33.279 --> 02:07:36.640
very Midwest by the highway thing,
it's in the it's on the East cost.

1794
02:07:36.760 --> 02:07:42.399
They're always by a highway exit and
their whole thing a they make their

1795
02:07:42.439 --> 02:07:45.199
own rocking chairs that are always out
front. But it's a country country food

1796
02:07:45.319 --> 02:07:51.600
restaurant, like hardy comfort food type
of mash potato. But there's always this

1797
02:07:53.000 --> 02:07:58.840
old fashioned toy slash candy store attestor
and it has like it'll have like weird

1798
02:07:58.920 --> 02:08:03.119
shit your mom likes to decorate her
country home with. Yes, exactly,

1799
02:08:03.279 --> 02:08:07.439
and crap. We bought a few
slingshots, my brothers and I, or

1800
02:08:07.600 --> 02:08:11.359
rather my dad thought we were all
old enough to get these slingshots. And

1801
02:08:11.600 --> 02:08:16.920
they were just sit try up.
They weren't like the with the arm braced

1802
02:08:16.960 --> 02:08:20.840
kind of slingshot that you could kill
somebody with. They were just these very

1803
02:08:20.920 --> 02:08:24.520
basic It looked like a birch tree
had been carved into a y with a

1804
02:08:24.600 --> 02:08:28.079
rubber band and a little I can't
believe your parents would buy you that.

1805
02:08:28.560 --> 02:08:31.399
I can either for like to put
whatever you want in and then little hammock.

1806
02:08:31.520 --> 02:08:35.399
And so of course I bring it
over to my best friend's house immediately,

1807
02:08:35.079 --> 02:08:39.279
and uh, we're like, what
can we start what can we start

1808
02:08:39.399 --> 02:08:46.479
launching? And we see the car
of I'm not gonna name I'm obviously not

1809
02:08:46.479 --> 02:08:50.760
gonna name names about this story.
We see a car, and keep in

1810
02:08:50.760 --> 02:08:52.439
mind I was young. I want
to say, I'm trying to think of

1811
02:08:52.439 --> 02:08:56.279
how old I would have been here
twelve now thirteen. I was in middle

1812
02:08:56.319 --> 02:09:01.399
school. I noticed a certain adult
that I did not like at all.

1813
02:09:03.119 --> 02:09:05.680
Let's say it was a teacher,
and I'm not proud of this judgment.

1814
02:09:05.840 --> 02:09:11.800
However, I see a teacher that
I just had come to like I clashed

1815
02:09:11.880 --> 02:09:13.840
with in school. I was like, I got this new slingshot, and

1816
02:09:15.439 --> 02:09:18.760
I was driving by in her car, so I know I'm not gonna hurt

1817
02:09:18.800 --> 02:09:22.039
her. I would never have done
that. However, I was like,

1818
02:09:22.079 --> 02:09:26.000
I've got this new slingshot. We
were eating gobstoppers at the time, the

1819
02:09:26.079 --> 02:09:30.560
wank of gobstoppers, and we were
about, i want to say, fifty

1820
02:09:30.680 --> 02:09:33.479
yards from her car, which was
at a stop sign near my friend's house.

1821
02:09:33.239 --> 02:09:37.479
And he goes like, don't do
it. I can name him.

1822
02:09:37.520 --> 02:09:39.600
He's like, don't do it.
You guys have met him. This is

1823
02:09:39.680 --> 02:09:41.479
a bad idea. So I take
a gobstopper and I put it in the

1824
02:09:41.560 --> 02:09:45.840
slingshot, which we had been using
all day, and in my excitement and

1825
02:09:46.000 --> 02:09:50.159
my slight fear as I was doing
it to go launch a gobstopper at her

1826
02:09:50.199 --> 02:09:54.720
car from a distance, and then
I guess run. The slingshot flung forward

1827
02:09:56.079 --> 02:09:58.840
and the gobstopper didn't come out,
and it shot back and hit me in

1828
02:09:58.880 --> 02:10:05.560
the foret. And I just can't
think of a more deserved injury. I

1829
02:10:05.680 --> 02:10:09.279
was about to, like clearly dent
a teacher's car because I didn't like it.

1830
02:10:09.439 --> 02:10:11.840
I'm not out, but I got
what I deserved. I have you

1831
02:10:13.039 --> 02:10:16.800
actually, you just rat it to
eid me. I have a similar one.

1832
02:10:18.079 --> 02:10:22.800
I went to a bowling alley with
friends when I was probably like fifteen,

1833
02:10:24.159 --> 02:10:28.760
right in my real shitthead era,
right when I was like I want

1834
02:10:28.920 --> 02:10:35.960
to be a brat all the time, and I was playing. I was

1835
02:10:35.119 --> 02:10:39.920
just bowling with my buds, and
you know, there's that thing you can

1836
02:10:39.000 --> 02:10:45.960
do when someone swings the bowling ball
back and you can grab it. And

1837
02:10:46.680 --> 02:10:52.920
I tried to do that to my
girlfriend, but I got the timing wrong

1838
02:10:52.479 --> 02:11:01.039
and she swung the bowling ball back
right into my nose. She was a

1839
02:11:01.119 --> 02:11:03.640
girl fifteen, so eight okay,
yeah, yeah that's eight nine pounds.

1840
02:11:05.359 --> 02:11:09.000
Yeah, no matter what that's gonna
Yeah, your nose is fragile. It

1841
02:11:09.279 --> 02:11:13.880
absolutely did one of those like little
Keith, and I had to kind of,

1842
02:11:15.399 --> 02:11:18.560
you know, correct it when I
was fifteen. I never went to

1843
02:11:18.720 --> 02:11:22.479
a doctor or like got it set
or anything. But to this day,

1844
02:11:24.439 --> 02:11:30.479
I now think like maybe I did
crack my break my cartilage or whatever,

1845
02:11:30.680 --> 02:11:35.640
because it absolutely like dnked my nose
really hard when it happened, and of

1846
02:11:35.720 --> 02:11:39.840
course, because we're all having fun
and it was just a little goof when

1847
02:11:39.880 --> 02:11:41.680
she turned around and was like,
what was that, I was like,

1848
02:11:41.720 --> 02:11:46.000
I don't know, and didn't even
like acknowledge that she smashed me in the

1849
02:11:46.039 --> 02:11:52.600
face with her with her bowling ball. But I absolutely took that bowling ball

1850
02:11:52.680 --> 02:11:58.800
right to the face. Stupid last
one. I'll say, it's pretty quick.

1851
02:12:00.760 --> 02:12:05.560
I had to go to the hospital
when I was young for something relatively

1852
02:12:05.800 --> 02:12:09.760
unseerious. Regardless, I was in
a hospital gown with a slit down the

1853
02:12:09.840 --> 02:12:15.880
back and my butt showing because my
parents were busy, they were on their

1854
02:12:15.960 --> 02:12:20.840
way from somewhere else. My one
of my older brothers brought me and he

1855
02:12:20.000 --> 02:12:22.920
comes into the room after I'd gotten
in the hospital gown, and I'm like,

1856
02:12:24.000 --> 02:12:26.439
I'm gonna flash my brother and so
I go to do this like ballerina

1857
02:12:26.479 --> 02:12:31.960
twirl to expose my butt to him
quickly, and I do it into the

1858
02:12:31.640 --> 02:12:35.159
like the pole that they put the
IV bags on, and I'd fall into

1859
02:12:35.199 --> 02:12:39.039
it, and it like domino,
affects the tray and the bedpan and everything

1860
02:12:39.079 --> 02:12:41.800
else in the room. And he
had just entered the room and seen me

1861
02:12:41.880 --> 02:12:46.000
destroy it. Because I didn't get
hurt really, but it was just it

1862
02:12:46.079 --> 02:12:50.520
was funny. That's probably embarrassing.
Last quick one for me. I remember

1863
02:12:50.600 --> 02:12:56.399
being in junior high, like seven
in stupid ways. This is witnessed by

1864
02:12:56.479 --> 02:13:01.920
me. It was like seventh grade, so a bunch of dumbasses. And

1865
02:13:01.119 --> 02:13:05.560
I remember at these friends Quo and
Jamison in seventh grade, and I can't

1866
02:13:05.560 --> 02:13:09.279
remember who I saw first. I
think it was Quote came in and he

1867
02:13:09.359 --> 02:13:13.119
had stitches one day over his I
think it was his right eye, and

1868
02:13:13.520 --> 02:13:15.920
uh so, what the fuck happened? He was like, clearly, it's

1869
02:13:15.960 --> 02:13:16.960
fine, I don want to talk
about it, you know, sitting through

1870
02:13:18.000 --> 02:13:20.119
glass or whatever. And then like
in between the next class I saw Jamison

1871
02:13:20.600 --> 02:13:24.880
had stitches over his right eye too. It's like, what the fuck?

1872
02:13:24.960 --> 02:13:26.239
So they knew each other and we
were in the same class, we're in

1873
02:13:26.840 --> 02:13:30.960
like some same hour together. And
it got to the point where they're both

1874
02:13:31.000 --> 02:13:35.920
sitting there and they both have the
same fucking bandage and stitches above their eye

1875
02:13:35.000 --> 02:13:37.720
the same day, and they both
don't want to talk about it, and

1876
02:13:37.800 --> 02:13:43.359
everybody's like, what the fuck is
going on? And it turns out I

1877
02:13:43.439 --> 02:13:46.600
think Quote went first, and they
were just like playing baseball or fucking around

1878
02:13:46.840 --> 02:13:50.279
like you know, in the neighborhood
or whatever, and they had a basketball

1879
02:13:50.760 --> 02:13:54.640
and aluminum bats, and Quote was
like here here, pitched me the basketball

1880
02:13:54.000 --> 02:13:58.399
and he swung at the basketball and
the bat bounced off hit him right in

1881
02:13:58.439 --> 02:14:03.439
the fucking I split himself open.
It was like oh. And then Jamison

1882
02:14:03.800 --> 02:14:05.319
was like, oh, get you
idiot, I'll show you how to do

1883
02:14:05.439 --> 02:14:09.279
it. Touch it to me.
Did the exact same fucking thing hit himself

1884
02:14:09.319 --> 02:14:13.119
and the eye. They both had
to go get fucking stitches in the exact

1885
02:14:13.159 --> 02:14:18.439
same spot for the same dumb ass
thing. That's so embarrassing. I didn't

1886
02:14:18.439 --> 02:14:22.840
know we could tell stories of other
people. I remember vividly a girl coming

1887
02:14:22.920 --> 02:14:26.520
into school in seventh grade with two
arms in slings and everyone being like,

1888
02:14:26.680 --> 02:14:30.840
what the fuck did you do?
And It turns out she was just in

1889
02:14:30.960 --> 02:14:35.680
regular gym where you have to touch
the sides of the wall when you're sprinting

1890
02:14:35.760 --> 02:14:39.680
back and forth, and she locked
her arms and sprinted into the wall and

1891
02:14:39.800 --> 02:14:43.960
broke both her arms. What broke
both arms? Broke both of them.

1892
02:14:43.479 --> 02:14:46.479
She didn't try to slow down at
all, She just went full force in

1893
02:14:46.720 --> 02:14:52.880
her arms. There's multiple mistakes.
Running full force into the wall, locking

1894
02:14:52.000 --> 02:15:01.119
your arms, committing both of them
a super embarrassing. Do you know if

1895
02:15:01.159 --> 02:15:05.199
she's okay? Now she's dead.
I don't know. I don't know what

1896
02:15:05.319 --> 02:15:09.479
happened. I don't know anything about
this woman. I didn't even remember her

1897
02:15:09.600 --> 02:15:13.560
name. It's just a very vivid
memory when someone walks into school with two

1898
02:15:13.800 --> 02:15:16.640
arms in cast and you're like,
what did you do? Were you skiing?

1899
02:15:16.880 --> 02:15:20.079
I don't know what's up with me
and skiing today? And she was

1900
02:15:20.199 --> 02:15:22.680
like, no, it was a
gym accident. But after some prying,

1901
02:15:22.800 --> 02:15:31.439
it turns out the lamest gyms accident
you could ever have. Jesus, I

1902
02:15:33.279 --> 02:15:35.560
was involved. I wasn't the one
who got hurt, but I did the

1903
02:15:35.680 --> 02:15:39.720
hurting accidentally. We were playing baseball
and so I had an aluminum bat.

1904
02:15:39.800 --> 02:15:43.960
I was up the bat and we
had this. It was like a foreign

1905
02:15:43.000 --> 02:15:46.880
exchange student. He didn't even really
know English or anything, was it.

1906
02:15:46.239 --> 02:15:50.640
Such a nice guy. His name
was you On and immigrants. She was

1907
02:15:50.680 --> 02:15:54.399
the catcher. He was back there
and I am not an athlete and certainly

1908
02:15:54.520 --> 02:16:01.079
was not back then. And I
swung and I like accidentally like go and

1909
02:16:01.159 --> 02:16:03.439
I just heard this, and I
look back and y Wan is just on

1910
02:16:03.600 --> 02:16:09.119
the ground, just bleeding and not
moving, and like, oh Jesus,

1911
02:16:09.760 --> 02:16:13.640
she was like a week into like
living in the country. And I was

1912
02:16:13.680 --> 02:16:16.199
like, oh Jesus, chrime.
Like everything came to a total standstill.

1913
02:16:16.479 --> 02:16:20.399
Everyone ran in from the outfield.
Everyone's like we get the nurses, get

1914
02:16:20.439 --> 02:16:22.640
there, like and we had to
take you on back and everything, and

1915
02:16:22.720 --> 02:16:24.399
like I think he had to go
to the hospital, and like definitely like

1916
02:16:24.439 --> 02:16:28.039
a stitch of situations. And I
rode the same bus as him and everything.

1917
02:16:28.079 --> 02:16:30.359
I remember, like I rode the
same bus as him for like five

1918
02:16:30.439 --> 02:16:33.479
six years, and I always felt
so fucking bad about that, and I

1919
02:16:33.680 --> 02:16:35.719
always wished he forgave me and stuff. But there was like languid barrier and

1920
02:16:35.760 --> 02:16:41.280
everything. But oh man, I
just threw a fucking aluminum bat. At

1921
02:16:41.319 --> 02:16:43.239
his head, and Oh, I
felt terrible about that. I mean,

1922
02:16:43.399 --> 02:16:48.600
that's a pretty bad one. Yeah, I felt very bad. Sad.

1923
02:16:48.000 --> 02:16:52.680
Hurting another person is tough. We
used to play so when I was in

1924
02:16:52.200 --> 02:16:58.319
high school, we used to always
go over to a buddy of mine's house.

1925
02:16:58.520 --> 02:17:01.440
His name was Kyle, and we
would always go over to his house

1926
02:17:01.600 --> 02:17:07.159
because his parents were lax, we'll
say, and let us get away with

1927
02:17:07.280 --> 02:17:11.760
doing really stupid stuff. He like, they just didn't care and we could

1928
02:17:11.959 --> 02:17:16.040
be idiots, and they had a
big property so we could like run around

1929
02:17:16.079 --> 02:17:20.239
and really be fuckers. And what
we ended up doing was we invented a

1930
02:17:20.440 --> 02:17:28.159
game called shrapnel Ball where we would
take a bat and the pitcher would throw

1931
02:17:28.520 --> 02:17:33.799
a full can of soda and you
would hit it with a bat, but

1932
02:17:33.920 --> 02:17:41.000
we would play baseball as usual.
Now instead of catching the can, all

1933
02:17:41.040 --> 02:17:43.000
you had to do was squat it
down, and as long as you could

1934
02:17:43.040 --> 02:17:48.920
get your hand on the exploded can
shrapnel and smack it to the ground,

1935
02:17:50.639 --> 02:17:52.280
that was considered an out. So
it was always assumed that the can would

1936
02:17:52.319 --> 02:17:56.319
explode and it would just be like
shrapnel, like it would not be a

1937
02:17:56.399 --> 02:18:00.879
full can by the time it got
to you. Correct it should be in

1938
02:18:00.959 --> 02:18:05.600
an exploded state. If you hit
it but it doesn't explode, that's a

1939
02:18:07.239 --> 02:18:11.719
that's a strike. Oh okay,
you have to you don't just have to

1940
02:18:11.760 --> 02:18:16.639
make content. It needs to It
needs to become shrapnel in order for it

1941
02:18:16.719 --> 02:18:20.479
to be a ball in play.
And I remember being in the outfield and

1942
02:18:20.600 --> 02:18:24.399
having the perfect shrapnel ball come right
towards me. It's an amazing that this

1943
02:18:24.520 --> 02:18:31.799
is an actual story, and swatting
it down and slicing my hand on the

1944
02:18:31.879 --> 02:18:33.520
metal. That was going to be
my question, Wait are these bare hands?

1945
02:18:33.559 --> 02:18:41.399
And it's specifically like ripped metal.
Yes, damn. Where wow,

1946
02:18:43.440 --> 02:18:46.120
and just kind of hiding it and
being like he's out, he's out,

1947
02:18:46.399 --> 02:18:48.840
because that was a huge victory for
me socially. I'm not going to say

1948
02:18:48.879 --> 02:18:52.159
I cut my hand and then we
would just move on. We used to

1949
02:18:52.159 --> 02:18:58.559
play, you know, you just
kind of like suck it out. It's

1950
02:18:58.639 --> 02:19:03.559
kind of yeah, we had Detonator. A bunch of us would stand in

1951
02:19:03.600 --> 02:19:07.280
a circle at parties with an unopened
beer can and you just slam it as

1952
02:19:07.319 --> 02:19:11.280
hard as you can, like the
length of it on your forehead, and

1953
02:19:11.399 --> 02:19:15.479
then you try to pop it over
live. So then you once you do

1954
02:19:15.600 --> 02:19:18.920
it, and everybody agrees that you
tried adequately hard. You pass it to

1955
02:19:20.000 --> 02:19:24.760
the next person, and of course
my friend, my friend got was inevitable

1956
02:19:24.799 --> 02:19:28.760
the whole time. After seventeen games
of this, finally got it opened and

1957
02:19:28.959 --> 02:19:33.920
sliced into like his hairline. He
still has a scar, but and it

1958
02:19:33.000 --> 02:19:39.000
opens and he also drank the beer. Geez, you're supposed to drink what's

1959
02:19:39.040 --> 02:19:41.280
left in it. It's called detonator, and then you go get another beer

1960
02:19:41.319 --> 02:19:45.799
and continue. I think you had
a stupider young drinking career than I did,

1961
02:19:45.879 --> 02:19:50.239
considering you taught me out a shotgun
a beer when I was twenty nine

1962
02:19:50.319 --> 02:19:52.280
and you were twenty one or whatever. Like, I think you had the

1963
02:19:52.360 --> 02:19:58.000
more traditional dumbass college drinking game like
I had plenty of that. But I

1964
02:19:58.079 --> 02:20:05.559
think you probably went harder than me. Uh broad, Yeah, maybe definitely

1965
02:20:05.600 --> 02:20:07.559
looking back too much. No,
not, I would say it was.

1966
02:20:07.719 --> 02:20:11.639
It was. It was a it
was. I know other high schoolers event

1967
02:20:11.680 --> 02:20:18.239
similar thing, but yeah, no, I definitely could have done less gloriors.

1968
02:20:18.639 --> 02:20:20.959
I've told the story on the Beast
Cast. When I ran into the

1969
02:20:20.000 --> 02:20:24.280
parked camaro admiring the new bike I
was riding at forty miles an hour,

1970
02:20:24.719 --> 02:20:28.079
and then I got catapulted over the
Camaro onto the hood and rolled off in

1971
02:20:28.120 --> 02:20:31.440
front of it. That's the story. That's the last one. That was

1972
02:20:31.479 --> 02:20:35.159
probably the dumbest. I was so
happy about my new bike and then I

1973
02:20:35.360 --> 02:20:39.159
got launched over. You keep read
it doing me one time when it was

1974
02:20:39.799 --> 02:20:45.719
so many One time when it was
pouring rain and I was I was probably

1975
02:20:45.840 --> 02:20:48.639
like, uh, boy, I
pressing age, so I want to say

1976
02:20:48.719 --> 02:20:52.440
thirteen. I was like, at
that age where had been really cool.

1977
02:20:52.479 --> 02:20:56.280
If a bunch of boys would recognize
me. There would always be a bunch

1978
02:20:56.319 --> 02:21:01.040
of teenage boys that were in a
garage, probably smoking, I don't really

1979
02:21:01.120 --> 02:21:05.520
remember, definitely watching TV and hanging
out with an open garage door, and

1980
02:21:05.520 --> 02:21:11.159
it was pouring rain, and I
was pretending to walk by, hoping that

1981
02:21:11.360 --> 02:21:16.479
someone would say something to me,
and one of them did, and I

1982
02:21:16.639 --> 02:21:20.840
swear to god, my thirteen year
old brain said, I'm going to sprint

1983
02:21:22.319 --> 02:21:24.719
there as fast as I can.
I'm going to impress them with my speed.

1984
02:21:26.239 --> 02:21:30.600
And I did, and I sprinted
as fast as I could from the

1985
02:21:31.360 --> 02:21:35.360
sidewalk to the garage, but because
there was so much water, as soon

1986
02:21:35.399 --> 02:21:39.959
as I got to the garage.
I slipped and I fell on my back

1987
02:21:39.239 --> 02:21:52.079
in front of all of these boys. And I think the cool thing about

1988
02:21:52.680 --> 02:21:58.280
I was really young stupid. I
think the absolute last quality I cared about

1989
02:21:58.440 --> 02:22:03.719
in a girl when I was thirteen
with speed and I think penultimately it was

1990
02:22:03.760 --> 02:22:09.319
probably clumsiness, which I think that's
one of the most embarrassing stories of my

1991
02:22:09.520 --> 02:22:13.520
childhood. And I think I I
think I really shoved it down till you

1992
02:22:15.440 --> 02:22:18.680
told me the bike story. That
was really embarrassing. Like I remember,

1993
02:22:18.360 --> 02:22:24.600
I remember being mortified, and I
remember like pretty much everyone laughing, Like

1994
02:22:24.760 --> 02:22:26.639
no one was like, are you
okay? Everyone was like, wow,

1995
02:22:28.000 --> 02:22:33.040
that is so embarrassing. They were
probably like sixteen seventeen. I think I

1996
02:22:33.239 --> 02:22:37.479
really, uh, it did not
work well for me. That day was

1997
02:22:37.600 --> 02:22:45.280
not a successful event. Yeah,
I'm sure there are more that I'm repressing.

1998
02:22:46.120 --> 02:22:48.920
Yeah, not coming to mind right
now. I think I told you

1999
02:22:48.000 --> 02:22:52.959
guys. I had one in college
as well, kind of similar to that

2000
02:22:52.079 --> 02:23:00.120
one where I was in my uh
this was past dorm stage. We were

2001
02:23:00.120 --> 02:23:07.040
in a house and I had two
roommates and basically everyone in the house smoked

2002
02:23:07.040 --> 02:23:11.600
a lot of weeds, so we
were very high and I went to There

2003
02:23:11.680 --> 02:23:13.319
was a full packed room of people, maybe seven or eight people, and

2004
02:23:13.360 --> 02:23:18.159
I was getting up to do something
and someone had a big jar of Jiffy

2005
02:23:18.239 --> 02:23:22.600
peanut butter on the floor and as
I was walking through the floor, I

2006
02:23:22.719 --> 02:23:26.719
accidentally kicked over the jar of peanut
butter, which made me stumble, but

2007
02:23:26.879 --> 02:23:30.399
it tipped it over onto its side, and then I stepped on the side

2008
02:23:30.760 --> 02:23:35.000
and then I like banana peeled it
out and then also fell on my back

2009
02:23:35.159 --> 02:23:43.360
onto the coffee table. And that
was like super embarrassing, and there was

2010
02:23:43.639 --> 02:23:46.879
nobody could not have witnessed it.
But I think it was like the comedy

2011
02:23:46.920 --> 02:23:50.319
of errors that I not only tripped
over the peanut butter, but then I

2012
02:23:50.399 --> 02:23:56.239
knocked it over, stepped on the
rolly side and slipped out from under it

2013
02:23:56.600 --> 02:24:01.239
the table. No, but I
mean I smacked it. It was very

2014
02:24:01.319 --> 02:24:07.559
wily coyote style where I just kind
of like smack. Uh. Nobody.

2015
02:24:07.159 --> 02:24:11.719
Nobody didn't see it, you know
what I mean. Like it was it

2016
02:24:11.799 --> 02:24:16.719
was the talk of the town.
Absolutely, it was the silliest, stupidest

2017
02:24:16.840 --> 02:24:20.280
thing that they had seen in at
least a day. But that was also

2018
02:24:20.399 --> 02:24:24.360
college. So somebody did something really
stupid the next day and let it go.

2019
02:24:24.559 --> 02:24:31.639
I also closelined myself in college.
I was running away from someone who

2020
02:24:31.760 --> 02:24:39.479
was chasing me, probably tag and
I remember thinking to myself, yeah,

2021
02:24:39.719 --> 02:24:43.040
like in a fun way. We're
probably drunk or something. And uh.

2022
02:24:43.760 --> 02:24:46.319
I remember thinking to myself, I'm
going to run so fast, I'm going

2023
02:24:46.399 --> 02:24:54.760
to impress all of these people.
And I ran really fast, and there

2024
02:24:54.920 --> 02:25:01.200
really, genuinely was a clothes line, and I remember vividly like the wire

2025
02:25:01.479 --> 02:25:05.719
and feeling the pole and then getting
flung backwards in front of a group of

2026
02:25:05.799 --> 02:25:09.959
people. I was fine, I
did not break anything, but it was

2027
02:25:11.079 --> 02:25:16.120
extremely embarrassing. God, this is
like therapy. I think I've told you

2028
02:25:16.319 --> 02:25:18.360
like six of the most embarrassing things
that have ever happened to me in a

2029
02:25:18.440 --> 02:25:22.639
row This one wasn't that embarrassing.
I didn't really get injured. My genuine

2030
02:25:22.719 --> 02:25:26.719
last one my senior year of college. I may have told this. The

2031
02:25:26.840 --> 02:25:31.159
front yard of our house, it
was all these like row houses pre War

2032
02:25:31.239 --> 02:25:35.520
one, so it was on a
slight hill. However, our front lawn

2033
02:25:35.639 --> 02:25:39.520
was graded as such to keep it
completely flat in front of the house,

2034
02:25:41.200 --> 02:25:45.399
parallel to the slope of the house. If that makes sense that there was

2035
02:25:45.479 --> 02:25:50.719
this little five foot steep, little
tiny hill to get to the next door

2036
02:25:50.760 --> 02:25:56.879
neighbor's front lawn. So there was
also a tree with a branch hanging like

2037
02:25:56.040 --> 02:26:00.920
right above that slope. So one
time when we left our place and around

2038
02:26:00.959 --> 02:26:03.840
the way the bars, I was
really excited and went to jump and grab

2039
02:26:03.920 --> 02:26:07.239
the branch and try to do like
a Prince of Persia esque uncharted esque like

2040
02:26:07.319 --> 02:26:09.559
swing like they do in video games. And of course, as I get

2041
02:26:09.600 --> 02:26:13.600
to like the bottom of the swing, the branch falls off and I just

2042
02:26:13.680 --> 02:26:18.200
slammed into the ground. After I
was fine, though, I think it's

2043
02:26:18.239 --> 02:26:22.680
so good, but uh, sounds
like we're just a bunch of ding dongs.

2044
02:26:22.200 --> 02:26:28.600
Yeah, I'm usually really graceful.
My friend Ryan got a hustler and

2045
02:26:28.639 --> 02:26:33.760
so I rode my bike over to
his house to see the episode the Issue

2046
02:26:33.799 --> 02:26:37.440
of Hustler, and I didn't know
he was sitting on his back porch for

2047
02:26:37.479 --> 02:26:41.719
the bb gun and as a prank, he shot me. And so I'm

2048
02:26:41.760 --> 02:26:43.360
just riding my bike. I was
like, oh, I felt up to

2049
02:26:43.399 --> 02:26:46.719
my gut and I just ate shit
on my bike because I was so excited

2050
02:26:46.760 --> 02:26:50.639
to go look at a hustler.
Yeah, that's fucked up. You told

2051
02:26:50.719 --> 02:26:56.440
us this your friend sucks. Yeah, yeah, shouldn't shoot your friends when

2052
02:26:56.479 --> 02:27:01.479
they just want to look at your
boom magazine. Probably didn't even didn't even

2053
02:27:01.600 --> 02:27:03.799
have a boot magazine. Was it
all a ploy? No, we had

2054
02:27:03.840 --> 02:27:07.399
the hustler, that's the guy.
I took the pictures of the magazine with

2055
02:27:07.440 --> 02:27:09.559
my game Boy camera for personally,
He's okay, yeah, why are you

2056
02:27:09.639 --> 02:27:13.200
riding up to a back porch on
your bike because it was like just it

2057
02:27:13.360 --> 02:27:16.840
was adjacent, like you could see
the backs of the houses and you could

2058
02:27:16.879 --> 02:27:18.920
see the sidewalk from where he was
sitting. And he's like, oh,

2059
02:27:18.000 --> 02:27:22.840
I'll shoot him on the way.
Oh okay, Yeah, And I still

2060
02:27:22.159 --> 02:27:26.440
stayed over and took all my game
Boy camera pictures of his boot magazines.

2061
02:27:26.719 --> 02:27:31.799
That's right. Yeah, that's how
we told this. Amazing. Well,

2062
02:27:31.840 --> 02:27:35.000
thank you Troy from Columbus. I
think that's good for the night. We

2063
02:27:35.079 --> 02:27:39.079
save this third one for next one. Sure that sounds great. Yeah,

2064
02:27:39.200 --> 02:27:43.120
we got some real good meat on
those last two. Yeah, let me

2065
02:27:43.280 --> 02:27:50.520
just write down to save this one. Yeah, episode seventy two. Yeah,

2066
02:27:50.520 --> 02:27:56.680
only that classic another one in the
books. January. That's right,

2067
02:27:58.360 --> 02:28:00.559
Thanks for the update. Yeah,
God, I'm what else do you want

2068
02:28:00.600 --> 02:28:13.600
to tell us? Who's president?
Joseph Biden President still fifty states? What

2069
02:28:13.840 --> 02:28:18.159
was the weather like? What a
time capsule? This will be a slight

2070
02:28:18.280 --> 02:28:26.440
breeze kind of chilly January. What
are you thinking about? Dark out?

2071
02:28:26.760 --> 02:28:31.280
Thinking about how dark and slightly breezy
it is? Uh huh, think about

2072
02:28:31.360 --> 02:28:41.959
Joe Biden. Uh, just thinking
about standard Wednesday, Wednesday in January,

2073
02:28:43.760 --> 02:28:48.440
Joe Biden, thinking about things,
think about when I used to live in

2074
02:28:48.520 --> 02:28:52.360
San Francisco, was one person that
would always wake up at eight in the

2075
02:28:52.479 --> 02:28:56.440
morning and go outside and have a
walk and scream about Joe Biden. And

2076
02:28:56.559 --> 02:29:01.159
I remember vividly yes in my time
and say, this was before he was

2077
02:29:01.239 --> 02:29:03.239
president too, so this's probably really
pissed that guy off. But like I

2078
02:29:03.399 --> 02:29:07.920
vividly remember waking up always around like
eight in the morning, and I would

2079
02:29:07.920 --> 02:29:13.920
hear him and he go the devil
Joe Biden, and he would he had

2080
02:29:13.959 --> 02:29:18.520
a whole thing that he would say. Maybe he was narrating a face off

2081
02:29:18.600 --> 02:29:22.159
between Joe Biden the Devil and he
likes Joe Biden. Maybe it did not

2082
02:29:22.319 --> 02:29:26.040
come across that he was a fan
and he did it I would say,

2083
02:29:26.399 --> 02:29:30.200
minimum three times a week, sometimes
as much as five times a week.

2084
02:29:30.239 --> 02:29:33.799
It was a full time profession for
this man to wake up around eight am

2085
02:29:33.159 --> 02:29:37.280
and yell about Joe Biden outside of
my window. He's a tremendously boring person,

2086
02:29:37.440 --> 02:29:41.479
and it seems Joe Biden. Oh, I thought you meant the man

2087
02:29:41.520 --> 02:29:46.000
that yelled up. I respect that
man's interesting, Joe Biden. Like that

2088
02:29:46.040 --> 02:29:48.040
guy's let a full life. This
is always a good thing. I like

2089
02:29:48.120 --> 02:29:50.200
being bored by the President, whereas
I'll forget he exists until like, oh,

2090
02:29:50.280 --> 02:29:54.600
he's on Conan's podcast. Okay,
I'd rather be bored by the President

2091
02:29:54.680 --> 02:29:56.040
than you know, waking up.
Do you remember when everyone was like freaking

2092
02:29:56.079 --> 02:30:01.120
out that Obama wore a tan suit. That's a boring I like getting off

2093
02:30:01.120 --> 02:30:05.840
Air Force one or whatever. Yeah, it's it's like the biggest deal back

2094
02:30:05.920 --> 02:30:09.840
then. Boring can be good in
certain ways. I agree. I want

2095
02:30:09.920 --> 02:30:13.159
my presidents boring, and my friend's
dumb as ship. You want them bugging

2096
02:30:13.239 --> 02:30:18.399
hotels and I'm a victim. Yeah, we know what you like your presidence

2097
02:30:18.440 --> 02:30:24.920
to do? You sick of He
was an innovator, a trailblazer, as

2098
02:30:24.959 --> 02:30:30.520
you say, Yeah, people talk
about him. You don't hear people talk

2099
02:30:30.559 --> 02:30:37.079
about the good ones about Nixon.
No one ever talks about Lincoln. Not

2100
02:30:37.360 --> 02:30:43.200
enough movies with him in it.
I was boring. That Lincoln movie was

2101
02:30:43.239 --> 02:30:46.760
really boring. Lincoln boring and you
know what talking about a Lincoln space marine.

2102
02:30:48.200 --> 02:30:52.840
And Lincoln had everything he needed to
have an interesting film. There was

2103
02:30:52.879 --> 02:30:56.319
a war. Like, he didn't
tell lieverything, dude. Yeah, No,

2104
02:30:56.520 --> 02:31:01.040
that was Washington. Couldn't tell lie
oh ship? Yeah Lincoln. Did

2105
02:31:01.079 --> 02:31:05.319
Lincoln do something with apples? No, that was Washington too. Damn those

2106
02:31:05.399 --> 02:31:13.959
guys again they mix up my presents
a speech. Who had your everything?

2107
02:31:13.079 --> 02:31:18.840
Is George? Every powdered wig.
Let's just get ahead of it. Powdered

2108
02:31:18.920 --> 02:31:24.120
wig across the river was on a
boat but one dollar bill. Yeah,

2109
02:31:24.120 --> 02:31:33.239
it's just this is all George running
on president facts. The only two presidents

2110
02:31:33.280 --> 02:31:39.079
you know are George Washington and Richard
Nixon. Lincoln was a very important one.

2111
02:31:39.879 --> 02:31:41.559
Who is that He lived in the
cabin and he was tall, and

2112
02:31:41.639 --> 02:31:45.680
he had a hat and a beard
at the end of the war, and

2113
02:31:45.719 --> 02:31:48.520
then he got shot in the head. Are you sure that's Washington? No,

2114
02:31:50.520 --> 02:31:54.959
Washington was I don't think he was
tall? Was he not? Let

2115
02:31:56.000 --> 02:31:58.600
me see how tall? No one
really knows for sure. What do you

2116
02:31:58.680 --> 02:32:03.680
think that's all? Do you think
against historians could not prove the height?

2117
02:32:07.040 --> 02:32:09.319
What do you think? Five seven? Mary? How tall is George Washington?

2118
02:32:11.159 --> 02:32:18.719
Five tens? Oh? I feel
like back then you had to be

2119
02:32:18.840 --> 02:32:22.479
burley to be pressed, because if
you weren't, they'd be like this little

2120
02:32:22.600 --> 02:32:26.239
bitch like I think you had to
kind of you know, like Lincoln didn't

2121
02:32:26.280 --> 02:32:31.200
he do like a gun thing with
another person, sat in the head by

2122
02:32:31.280 --> 02:32:37.959
a gun. No. Before that, yeah, where he was like I'll

2123
02:32:39.040 --> 02:32:46.680
do a face off with I'm not
Lincoln did off with someone. Hamilton and

2124
02:32:46.799 --> 02:32:48.959
Aaron was the face off in talking
not far from where I am at this

2125
02:32:50.079 --> 02:32:58.959
very moment. Aaron still play damn
it, Lincoln a famous duel. I

2126
02:33:00.040 --> 02:33:03.840
think he just shot. No,
there was a that's not a duel.

2127
02:33:03.879 --> 02:33:07.959
That's no. I know that I
know about the shot. I know about

2128
02:33:07.959 --> 02:33:09.639
the murder. The murder is not
the duel. I thought there was a

2129
02:33:09.719 --> 02:33:18.360
duel. I can't find it for
me. Teddy Roosevelt got shot by a

2130
02:33:18.440 --> 02:33:22.000
twenty two like and it lodged in
his ribs, and then he still gave

2131
02:33:22.040 --> 02:33:26.280
a speech or something cool. Lincoln
was challenged to a duel by an Illinois

2132
02:33:26.399 --> 02:33:35.879
state auditor over alledged. Who cares
that? I probably was just every president

2133
02:33:37.000 --> 02:33:41.680
got offered duels back. Joe Biden's
probably be operated duel. John Wilkes Booth

2134
02:33:41.719 --> 02:33:46.760
did not. That guy in San
Francisco outside your building has probably challenged to

2135
02:33:46.799 --> 02:33:50.120
several duels. John Wilkes Booth was
not challenging to a duel. He was

2136
02:33:50.719 --> 02:33:54.319
sneaking into a theater to shoot.
Yeah, it was an assassin. Yeah,

2137
02:33:56.120 --> 02:33:58.079
you don't call it a duel.
On November twenty second, nineteen sixty

2138
02:33:58.120 --> 02:34:05.840
three, Harvey Oswald was Mary's favorite
duelist. Yeah it was, you know,

2139
02:34:05.000 --> 02:34:09.479
it was really good at it.
He's, uh, what a one

2140
02:34:09.520 --> 02:34:15.799
hundred percent victory? He took a
few shots, I believe. Oh,

2141
02:34:16.440 --> 02:34:20.719
do you guys really want to talk
about who did that? Let's that's next.

2142
02:34:20.399 --> 02:34:26.280
On episode seventy three, we talk
about who really killed JFK. We're

2143
02:34:26.319 --> 02:34:31.280
going deep. Let's let's do a
hard pivot going forward with fire Escape.

2144
02:34:31.079 --> 02:34:35.120
Yeah. I don't know why we
talk about games at all. The new

2145
02:34:35.200 --> 02:34:43.079
Jesse Ventura talk about conspiracy. There's
there's there's a vacuum of people talking about

2146
02:34:43.079 --> 02:34:45.719
conspiracy. Nobody's doing it on the
internet. We need to fill Yeah,

2147
02:34:45.719 --> 02:34:48.520
it's on the internet specifically, and
podcasts better equipped, yes, than the

2148
02:34:48.600 --> 02:34:54.239
person who truly knows how that night
at the theater went down. We're going

2149
02:34:54.319 --> 02:34:58.840
to figure out the link. I
think the Lincoln assassinations closed case. Yeah,

2150
02:35:00.120 --> 02:35:03.520
I think they pretty sure they know
who did that. Yeah, or

2151
02:35:03.879 --> 02:35:09.799
are they turn in next week?
Thanks it for watching everybody or listening as

2152
02:35:09.840 --> 02:35:15.159
it would be. Thanks for firescapecast
gmail dot com. Also, as we

2153
02:35:15.200 --> 02:35:18.239
mentioned, we have a new bonus
episode where we played Lethal Company. Go

2154
02:35:18.399 --> 02:35:22.600
at our Patreon subscribe there to the
video tier if you want to watch that.

2155
02:35:22.760 --> 02:35:24.760
Like we said, we want to. We talk all the time about

2156
02:35:24.879 --> 02:35:28.399
you know, this is a side
project that we care very much about,

2157
02:35:28.399 --> 02:35:31.719
obviously, but we do want to
find time to do some co op games

2158
02:35:31.760 --> 02:35:33.920
and play do more bonus stuff.
Whether it's a dumb tier list of candy,

2159
02:35:33.959 --> 02:35:37.079
I shouldn't say dumb, it's very
serious stuff. Yeah, and at

2160
02:35:37.120 --> 02:35:39.719
this point, if somebody was joined
now, they would have access to all

2161
02:35:39.760 --> 02:35:41.559
the old stuff. So yeah,
like Mike, you were talking the candy

2162
02:35:41.680 --> 02:35:46.719
list. The road trip from New
York to Connecticut. The I believe they

2163
02:35:48.159 --> 02:35:50.159
should. I'll double I think they
did. I think We'm pretty sure they

2164
02:35:50.200 --> 02:35:52.440
doe that setting. We did not
have that setting at first, which is

2165
02:35:52.479 --> 02:35:56.120
dumb, and then I went back
at it. Yeah, so if you

2166
02:35:56.239 --> 02:35:58.440
join now, it's you got the
candy tier list, you got the one

2167
02:35:58.479 --> 02:36:01.360
we didn't hope, ok, where
we're all like that did the bonus full

2168
02:36:01.399 --> 02:36:05.719
on episode at your place? Oh
yeah, the road trip, the candy

2169
02:36:05.799 --> 02:36:11.639
tier list, the Lethal Company,
the forest, the cheese, the Macroni

2170
02:36:11.000 --> 02:36:16.600
kind of travel. Yeah, so
there's a there's a bit of a backlog

2171
02:36:16.639 --> 02:36:18.200
there if you join now, So
get in there, and we want to

2172
02:36:18.239 --> 02:36:24.159
do more, yes for sure.
And then also you can go to fire

2173
02:36:24.200 --> 02:36:28.000
skate Mars dot com. Go check
out get Fire Escaping Space. That's on

2174
02:36:28.040 --> 02:36:30.879
our bonfire that's all on our Patreon, our Instagram page, but follow us

2175
02:36:30.879 --> 02:36:33.639
on Instagram, Instagram, fire Scape
Cast. Uh Dan, what do you

2176
02:36:33.799 --> 02:36:39.040
have going on lately? Giant bomb
dot com every week doing a bunch of

2177
02:36:39.079 --> 02:36:41.399
fun stuff. We're at to start
Blake Club. Mike Manati is going to

2178
02:36:41.440 --> 02:36:46.440
play Mortal Kombat Mythologies sub Zero and
I just sent him a full kwan Chi

2179
02:36:46.639 --> 02:36:48.600
outfit. So I'm sure he'll look
very cool and normal. U and he

2180
02:36:48.639 --> 02:36:52.600
has to put facepaint on, which
he's being a big baby about. So

2181
02:36:52.280 --> 02:36:56.120
uh yeah, tune into Blake Club
specifically, but then everything on giant bomb

2182
02:36:56.159 --> 02:37:01.920
dot com. Mary by you nothing. This is the only thing I care

2183
02:37:01.959 --> 02:37:07.440
about. Okay, what's going on
with you? I have a polygon and

2184
02:37:07.600 --> 02:37:13.719
here that's about it. It's been
a good episode. It's January. Mm

2185
02:37:13.799 --> 02:37:24.079
hmm, it's breezy the Devil Joe
Bye, it picks me back. Jake's

2186
02:37:24.079 --> 02:37:30.840
got a lot of clip fodder from
tonight. Uh, well, awesome.

2187
02:37:31.559 --> 02:37:33.760
We'll see you guys a couple of
weeks. Thank em righty for joining.

2188
02:37:33.959 --> 02:37:37.440
Well awesome. You never know how
to finish these three hours? Yeah,

2189
02:37:37.520 --> 02:37:41.520
I know you take us out,
Mary, take us out. Thanks for

2190
02:37:41.639 --> 02:37:50.319
listening. Yeah, bozos, we
love you. Bye Yah. You just

2191
02:37:50.360 --> 02:37:52.239
gotta do it. You know,
you just gotta like nip it in the

2192
02:37:52.280 --> 02:37:54.399
butt. You just gotta be like, this is over. Why are you

2193
02:37:54.520 --> 02:37:58.159
listening anymore? Get out of here? Do you stop listening to this podcast?

2194
02:37:58.399 --> 02:38:05.440
I said, get out? Get
out? By Still are we still

2195
02:38:05.440 --> 02:38:09.479
here? I told them to,
I told them to leave. If they're

2196
02:38:09.520 --> 02:38:13.000
still here, that's on them,
their same time code remaining and thinking we

2197
02:38:13.120 --> 02:38:16.079
might say something funny, and I
feel like there's nothing else to say.

2198
02:38:16.520 --> 02:38:22.000
I've inserted all my funny. I
told them everything. We're done.