Hellllo, Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the first episode of the Acolyte Review,
actually the first two episodes of the Accolte Review on the Clown Prince of
Twins Tress. Now, I'm joined by uh, where am I? I'm
here at the Acolyte Review. So, yeah, that's my name. I'm
Pip Taylor Field. Do we got any stars. We don't even have it.
I thought we used to have. Let's just call it the Mando for
now and do that. So that's that's what we got for now. Looks
looks nice enough. So you don't like the mandos Star Wars Bridge, Oh
that's nice. Taylor did this one for us. Yeah, but that's Empire,
you know. That's what this is is the dark dark, So it's
not Thank god, we're out of the dark times. This is so exciting.
So this is ladies and gentlemen. We'll do some plugs in the little
bit later, but we thank you very much for tuning in. Yeah,
this is a show that has been I think anticipated by us for a long
long time because I think we all had different stones to it. But I
think we're all big fans of darker stuff and Star Wars. But just that
the Old Republic era, whether it's the books, whether it's the games,
et cetera. I THINELK. We were big fans so back in twenty twenty
when COVID was happening and they had that Investor's Day and the ann that's all
the act lie. It's gonna be this dark, you know side show.
Maybe it's not exactly what they pitched, but it is still something that hopefully
it's gonna dive in that we'll see. We'll talk about this in the review,
but it's been one we've been anticipating. We've lost a rogue Squadron,
We've lost Ryan Johnson. Rogue Squadron is not We've lost a rogue Squadron.
We've lost probably a Taikwa TD movie. We've lost lots of things. So
we thought, oh, this is probably something that you know, and you
know, check out our newscast. We're probably losing to Sean Levy Star Wars
movie because he's gonna do have Andrews five tons of stuff going on. But
I think at some points we did think, ah, this could be this,
there's some trouble there, but no, they filmed it, they did
it, and here we are so as usual, we're gonna talk about non
sports, so if you haven't got a chance to see an episode or both
of them, we will talk about fifteen to twenty minutes of just our old
all thoughts, likes and dislikes, and then we will do a little break
and then we'll get into spoilers. So if you have to check it out
later, it's right there in the feed. So yeah, I'm gonna throw
two. Mister Pats himself, you know, he's talked about many times being
a big dark Side users or big dark Side fan. Maybe dark Side yeah,
maybe all those clones. But so you're a big fan of dark Side?
Were you a big fan of this show? The act Light episodes one
and two? It was what was it? Dark and Light? One was
Revenge and Justice? And was the first episode Dark and Light or whatever it
was? I did not see the first or was it revenge? No,
Revenge and Justice was the second one? It was Revenge okay, Revenge and
Justice, and then oh I forgot what I had the other one? What
was it? I normally have the episodes. Either way, all the episodes
were like a bounce, right, it's like Revenge Justice. I'll figure that
out after but what did you think so far? Non spoilers. Yeah,
I mean it's been a long journey to get to this point from the first
announcement where we are with the two episode premiere, and I was definitely feeling
the buzu for lost found thank you. So that was the title the first
episode Found. Okay this and again just just start with the we've talked a
little bit about to sday the butt hurt fans on IMDb, these episodes are
five point seven out of ten, like it's not even been out, Like
it's not even been out that long. Same thing, like even before the
show came out to dan Ron, to me, it was it was like
audience score forty eight percent, Like there's like three pm to like no one's
seen the show, but you can you know, oh man, there's a
female lead. My god, here we go. It's going to destroy Star
Wars. Anyways, continue is it going to destroy Star Wars? We'll see
so but yeah, I know, so I felt the bug excitement leading into
us, and I feel like I feel like it was a nice breath of
fresh air, like jumping into it. I uh, you know, preface
by saying I haven't seen Ahsoka, so I haven't seen all of the Star
Wars shows on here, but this one there was something that felt a little
bit different from the ones that I've seen in the past. Most of them
have been alright to meh to fantastic and fantastic being and Or for me,
I think that's my favorite Star Wars show that I've seen, and like,
that's probably one of my favorite Disney Plus shows. Actually, to this day,
I still hold that thought pretty high up in my in my heart.
And Or's fantastic, and so far this show is not and Or for me,
But it's also not like the worst of the worst that I have seen.
Maybe some moments of like Mando season three, Oh geeze, what else
is I'd say some stuff in obi Wan, some stuff some bad Star Wars
and I was gonna say, though not to like like put my thoughts in
your mind. I don't think we thought because we got the first rieps of
and Or. I don't think we thought it was the greatest after those first
three Right, I'm not knowing you're going to do that, but I think
we were like, oh, there's potential there, but I feel like we
had maybe some minor issues and stuff, but that wasn't like till the an
we're like, holy shit, this show is something real good, you know,
no exactly. And I remember thinking on the like the three episode release
of and Or, It's like, oh, it's good, it's releasing in
chunks, you know, Like this is pretty slow. I don't know if
I would have been the to like stay up for midnight to watch this one
episode, but uh, I think these first two episodes have enough to really
like get you interested. I like the character introductions that like just kind of
seeing this Star Wars universe that's separated from the other you know, main timeline
stuff that we're just used to see. No Dark Era, no Skywalkers,
no Skywalker has been living in since the era. You know, yeah,
no exactly, So that that's been kind of nice. I think by the
second episode I was starting to see maybe some like minor glimpses of of not
necessarily like previous shows like that are are Star Wars, but maybe just like
certain moments that are from even the Skywalker saga that uh. It wasn't like,
oh, this is gonna be terrible. It was just like, ah,
this doesn't feel as new and exciting as maybe I was hoping for it
to be, especially that it is like one hundred years separate from those other
timelines. I mean, the more I got to think about it, it's
like it is only one hundred years, right like this, Like is it
two hundred? I think a hundred? Is it only a hundred? I
feel like that. I feel like that time I kept going down, I
feel like it was multiple hundreds of years, and then when we got to
the show, it's like it's just a hundred and you're probably gonna see Palpatine
at some point, you know, or yeah, who the fucking plague is?
You know? It's yeah, I know. It's It's funny because I
feel like when we first saw the title of Accolade, I would have assumed
it was something like that, like thousands of years beforehand, and until I
read it on the very first episode that it was just one hundred years.
In my mind, I don't know why I had like two hundred and fifty
years, like some weird number like two hundred was out there at one point.
But again, sometimes it's tough. What's news and what's like the scoops
we cover right or like words, so that could be it. So and
I do think this is like a testing ground to see. I think if
this does well, not even critically, just viewership wise, it could be
like, oh, we can go further back. I think this is some
different like you can go one hundred years back, but like that's that's about
it, don't go any further than that. And like on that note,
I feel like I was really hoping that we were just going cannonballing into the
deep end by like a five hundred year plus time, like a thousand years
even like I really wanted to be separate. It does make sense why they
wouldn't do that off the hawk like, like you said, it being kind
of a testing ground never does. It does have that feel because we're introduced
to obviously new characters that haven't been around and certain maybe dynamics amongst like factions,
you know, Jedi being one of them. Uh. It just it
feels pretty close to how it was I think in especially like the prequel era.
But I don't know, I haven't read The High Republic or anything.
Is that in this era? You'll have to remind me. This is the
tail end of it, right, I'd say, right, yeah, at
the very end of the High Republic. Yeah, so a lot of those
robes are seeing a lot of them being very like Jedis are always have that
almost better than you type of vibe at times, are just very high.
But I feel like in the prequels I start to lose that and get a
bit more fatier because the war, So it definitely feels like it to me
is a call, and I actually think it's a pro a combo of the
prequel era and the High Republic era up there still holding on to being these
very empowered masters. Everyone bes them, fears them in a sense, but
now like there's some grit happening, because obviously there's some some tom foolery going
around with some maybe dark side stuff. So yeah, so I think,
like the way that the Jedi were carrying themselves, what was new to me
from what I've experienced in the past, which I did, Like I think
just maybe I don't even know the best way to say this, Like like
the the protagonist is not as like evil as maybe I was exciting like hoping
it to be coming into it. Yeah, obviously avoid spoilers, but I
don't know, Like watching these first two episodes, it makes me think of
like maybe I just won't ever get like my ideal like dark side centered show,
you know, and like we can discuss that more when we get to
spoilers or maybe even just like further down the line on this is only two
episodes are out right now. Maybe they do kind of go there later on,
but episode three, yeah, I'm hoping. I think one again.
I think it's like the tipping of the toes, right because I remember a
long time ago when Mandalorien was coming coming out and Stars Celebration was the first
season, and they have these banners and they had the heroes on one side
and the villains on another side, right yeah, and remember Mando was on
the villain side, So it's like for me, their villains are very like,
ah, like this this is the like this is as far as we're
willing to go right now. Because even Marvel, like everyone always brings up
Loki, which he was villain, but the whole show is about redeeming him,
right, so it's like, h it really became an anti hero.
So both Marvel and Stars really haven't been like here's your Victor von Doom series
where he's a guy that turns into a super villain. Who knows, Like
we said this show could be that. But I think, yeah, same
thing we have to they have to maybe see even now, like an older
show and a show that's like trying to make it see more dark side.
How does that do? Because maybe viewers are like, I don't want this
from Stars, right, Maybe they want the cookie cutter heroes like Luke and
Obi Wan, you know, maybe they don't want the dark side like us
weirdos do us sickos sickos, and like you could do a dark side centered
show and not just it be like them torturing people, murdering people, like
like I, you know, you do want to feel good about what you're
watching for it, but you can do that with just good character telling.
And I think I got glimpses of that for sure in these first two episodes.
Obviously, I can't really judge it as a whole right now because we
just kind of got introduced to these characters. But I mean, yeah,
I'll just kind of save it there. I feel like I'm gonna actually start
getting spoilery here, so I'll just say, as of right now, first
two episodes, I'm liking what I'm seeing, although I'm maybe, yeah,
I don't. I don't even want to say it actually I'll just say it
for spoiler section, but I am liking what I'm seeing and I am kind
of hopeful, but I think I'm nowhere near as high as I maybe potentially
thought I could be. And this is like maybe thinking back way back when
we first saw the Acolyte title, like I like, when I first saw
that title, I thought on this review is just like, this show is
something that I've just been wanting for, like since I've first picked up some
of those like Old Republic books. You know, they're like pre dating like
legend or I guess they're legends now, but just all like that type of
Star Wars story I was hoping to get from this first viewing and that's really
not what I think I'm gonna get from this show. But you know,
maybe we'll see. You never know. I always hope with these shows they
never do them, but I always hope they do like one off episodes like
some longer shows do, and you get just the villains or some dark side
stuff. But to me, it sounds like you went to the restaurant wanting
a certain meal and it wasn't there and what you got was still good,
yeah, but it was, but it wasn't the it was the meal you
showed up for, right, You're like, oh, yeah, this is
this work. You were like, oh they didn't have my thing. It
was gross, but uh yeah, you know, and they had a cheese
though. It was all right, yeah exactly. So yeah I'll go because
I'll leave mister Star Wars there for last. So yeah, I think I'm
where am I on this one? I think overall I liked it. I
okay, no, I did like it. It's not a thing. I
don't think anything blew me away. But to me, this is my hope
is like if the the show's like least quality is these two episodes, I'm
happy with that. Like even if the rest episodes are like this. I
think because just the generalization of I do just enjoy being back in the prequel
era or era that's not the Dark Times or Skywalker. And I've been saying
this since I, I don't know, probably twenty sixteen. I feel like
I've been beating this drum for a long time. Many other people have been,
but I've just so dumb with the Dark Era, right, It's just
such a boring time for me. We've just like kind of just hoard it
out, and we've explored so much stuff to a point where it's like we
explore things that shouldn't have happened there and you get stuff like Boba Fett.
But I digress. We have reviews I should have shot out. We've reviewed
everything Star Wars. Go check it out. So I like that. I've
always said I want to return to the prequel era just in projects I like
more, which I like this where I do like the Higher Republic, and
I like things about the prequels, so I like they were getting certain aesthetics
back. We are going student alien types back, so it feels like a
ASSAULTIONI in a different way, because like the original trilogy had an assaution,
but this was like this is more like later a nostalgia for me because I'm
a bit older than you guys. So it's just that's been fun to see,
and I do wonder. I think the show overall is like a good
it's a thumbs up right now. I'm still wanting to see what happens next.
I think both ending for episodes kind of suck. I think it not
like I think especially for I was like surprised. I'm like, oh wow,
Okay, that's the end. Of the first one episode one, I
got you show off something and I'm like, okay, yeah, that's that's
the magic trick. But then number two it's just like, oh, that
that's really it. And I feel like Star Wars sometimes has an issue with
that, and I don't even think this is like the best episode one.
Like as much as we have problems with Obi Wan, I think we all
agreed, like those first two episodes, Oh we won. Those were killer
episodes, and we were like, man, this is gonna be great,
and we're looking back on I had a good premiere. I think Mando had
a better premiere. So I think there's ones that are better. But overall,
I'm liking the characters so far. I'm liking the atmosphere. It is
very kind of just I won't say paint by numbers. I'll say above average
detective tail sort of stuff like it's not true Detective or signs of Lambs.
But I do enjoy this, Like me and Taylor Redmaster Apprentice, we really
like that. I liked in Famin Menace when Obi Wan and Qui Gon are
just going around looking into things talking to people, like I like when Jedis
do that, and we didn't get that in I don't think the original or
sequel trophy right, Like Ray's never jet like an investigator lookest on vest So
I like the jedis being like these big time space cops in a sense even
higher than so. I like, even if it is just kind of,
you know, a basic law and order type of procedural like, I'm liking
that with the aesthetic of Jedi. I think the thing that brings it up
for me are the two actors. I gotta get the names of both of
them. I just did. I really close on them to be I thought
I had it, but amandel Steinberg? Is that what it is? I
know it's not a man at something else, but let me go here.
Either way, I like a lot of the other actors. There's one character
so far, I'm not really digging back. At the same time, it's
almost like you're not supposed to. But so amandel Steinberg, who was fucking
really really good in Body's Body's Body. She's somebody that and I think I
saw in something Else too, but she was really good in that. So
when they announced her for this, I was excited. And she has a
lot to do in this show, and so far I like that. And
then the other guy from squid Gram Lee Jion Jay, who plays Master soul
Man. This to me feels like a domesticated Qui Gon, like if QUI
gone got in like got in line with the council, where in fam Metasy's
always pushed it and going against This's not like I'm more like all right,
but there's certain times he just says something. I see that look in his
eye. I'm like, oh, him in kuiey Wam would have a great
beer, you know, maybe go out in town, have a good night.
But I like you. Yeah, I like the other characters, but
I think specific and even these two characters, I do enjoy them, but
I think it's the performances that are bringing them up to me. I think
this is a case of the actors are elevating the material and already I am
invested in their connection and their relationship. So even just that everything else is
good. That's the thing that I'm like, Oh, I want to see
how this plays out, because again we don't the new trilogy, the original
trilogy, even you don't play that like again it's the prequels. You don't
get to play that much with the Master apprentice dynamic right over. Wan trains
Luke for like a day he's dead. Ray has like six different masters and
they're all in one different movie here or there. Like I love the idea
of this connection. There you go. It's a myersquare. There's a master
apprentice sort of connection there, but you'll get them in the first time.
It's a show, so so far it's a thumbs up. I'm liking it.
I have some not issue. I don't really have that's gonna I don't
think I have issues. There's just things that I'm like meh about. There's
nothing that I think, oh man, they really screwed up here. There's
like one scene where like a Jedi is half naked that I'm like, well,
that was kind of weird, Like I don't know why we did that,
Like they're growing for like a sort of humor joke with it, and
we've gotten that before though, I mean with with Kylo, But that wasn't
like that that was different because that was like Ray and Kylo are starting to
like each other. She's seeing him naked. They're senilizing the male instead of
the femal, Like I feel like I know it was like, oh,
I'm so sorry. I'll never You'll won't see my nipples like it like it
was just episode four idiot caught fide out just full orgy. But so yeah,
I have like nitpicks, but nothing major. But other than the Apprentice
and Master connection, I also don't have anything major praise. I think some
of the props, some of the sets look good, some don't. I
think a lot of the aliens are really good. Actually, the school around
some good practical ones. I think the action is good for the most part.
I wasn't sure how I was gonna feel about almost like a John Wick
Matrix kung Fu type of style action. But the way I've kind of headcanon
it is, I'm kind of fine with that because in the prequels, they
fight I always say like a dance right in the original trilogy is a very
slow like jesting. In the new trilogy, it's kind of a mix between
the two, so I can kind of believe that. Okay, maybe one
hundred years before the Phantom Menace, that was the Jedi's fight style, right
was a maybe more handhand combat. They didn't want to use their lightsabers,
so there's a few things there. So overall, I'm enjoying it and I'm
excited to see next week. So yeah, it's a to me, a
good start and I'm liking it and I'm really excited. I hope it can
just again at least stay this pace. You know, I don't know if
it's gonna be showed that people are gonna be jumping to if you're not a
Star Wars fans, but I think if you're like a saying Star Wars fan,
this is a good step in the right direction. So you know,
who knows? Cut to episode three, cuts episode whatever. I think there's
how many episodes is there? There's eight? Okay, there's eight episodes,
So there we go, mister Field, what is this? I love it?
I really really do. I think it's it's a good time. I
think it's got aspects that I've been craving and really wanting to see for a
good long minute. And I just I see people just crying leading up to
where we are now with this release. I've just been seeing online the comments,
people just shit talking and trash talking this show and they haven't even seen
it. And I'm happy that other people are like, you know what you
have? They've been they voiced it like, oh, you know, you
haven't even seen it, and other people like I don't even have Disney Plus,
but I hate this, it's stupid Star Wars whatever, and be like
why why even commenting? People are just going but you know what I think.
Yes, Disney has definitely uh, it's not been smooth sailing for them
since they acquired Star Wars. Wow, I will just put that out there.
I know, I know bold, but take it for what it is.
At least they've really been trying to put out a variety of different things.
While a huge portion of that really does focus in the dark times that
you very much hate Trevis and I totally understand that, but they are putting
out things that we've we've been able to kind of explore different storylines, explore
different characters a little bit more, and expand on things. I mean,
there's one point like, no, we weren't getting in more Star Wars.
That's it. And I'm not saying, like for me as a fan that
the whole franchise is being diluted. I'm not getting that at all because I
eat everything up. I'm loving it and there's some things that I like more
than others. Sure, and there's other things like, oh, you know,
I'm not like craving craving this kind of Star Wars. You know,
I'll leave that. There's things that I can pick and I can rewatch again
and again and again, and that's fine, and I think any fan can
do that. You don't have to go and rewatch Rise of Skywalker Last Jedi
Force Awakens if you don't want to. And for me, like I,
I'll put them on once in a while, but I'm usually always going back
to Empire. I'm always going back to Revenge of the Sith like those.
Those are the ones, like Rogue one, those are ones that it really
send out to me, and I'll go back to that because there's always gonna
be now so much Star Wars content that people can pick the things that they
like and they can enjoy it and watch it. It doesn't have to be
everyone just all this that And like, this show is wonderful because we're getting
something that me as a fan has just been craving for a very long time,
that's to have a ton of Jedi on screen. And it's been really
satisfying so far. These first two episodes have delivered in that regard. I
like what you said, Travis about how Master Soul is just kind of this
different interpretation of Qui Gon if Qui Gon was along a different path. I
like that, and I like how each Jedi we've seen so far has portrayed
their own unique characteristics, and I like that that is kind of transitions into
the way they fight and just the way that they handle different situations. I
really like that, and I think that's very very well done when it comes
to Jedi, because every Jedi is so unique, and that's something that we
learn in the High Republic novels. It's something we learn even a Master Apprentice
when you're dealing with that dynamic between Obi Wan and Qui Gone, that every
character, every Jedi is very unique, and they have that tension between them
and their masters sometimes and it's just a very unique relationship. And so to
explore the individual Jedi is so wonderful. That's something we didn't get enough of
in the prequel films. You got the the Blunt I don't trust them,
Mace Windu, we got the classic Yoda, and we got O Wei Wan
and Anakin, and then we got all the other Jedi in the background for
our viewing pleasure. That's it. The team. Yeah, so we didn't
get enough of that dynamic of each Jedi's kind of personality and their their mindsets
and the way they are and how that reflects themselves. So this show is
just diving into that. I appreciate that. I love it very very much
and getting this kind of storyline focusing on this this female lead. I I
really was trying to figure out, Okay, what are they gonna do here,
how are they gonna like take on this story? But I was able
to pick up right away what they were going for, and I thought,
Okay, this is really really cool. There were a couple of twists and
surprises that I was not expecting. Okay, this is really neat, and
now we're getting into some new one charted ground here and the way the end
of the episodes totally agree not a fam I wish the episode twoes ending was
just not so it's so fucking random. It's just like it's just like Treata
is like this big reveal. I don't know, like I just want it's
supposed to be a cliffhanger. I think because I sat there, like,
man, I got blue balled, Like I love more of this, Like
are you kidding me? But it is what it is. I thought we
were gonna get an ending like we did in episode one, which I'm like,
Okay, that could be cool for a while to get like each ending
of me the first half episode is like a little glimpse into this side of
the story. I thought that's what was gonna happen. Instead, we just
got this that first the episode one ending. I immediately like, I goosebumps,
the hairs are standing up. I was like, oh, this is
so cool. Holy smokes, I'm loving this. I'm loving this. Massion
was making fun of me and laughing. I'll point out, like that's exactly
it. I'll point out when we again to spoilers, a certain moment is
mas Is making fun of me, like, oh yeah you again, just
as sure as a rock is covered in chills already mad And then Madison was
like, are you fucking kidding me? I made her watch it. She
didn't have a choice. Yeah, there you go, So anything else don
spoils ah. I think visually it's great. I mean there's a couple of
scenes like Okay, I can see the CGI kind of a little questionable here,
but I'd say it's it's it holds up pretty pretty nicely hero made podcast.
We need an old Republic show. I don't think anyone here disagrees,
sir ma'am? Are they? I think I think that's what we all want,
and that's what I'm hoping this does well. There was a rumor two
weeks ago from a seat to your scoop it said like, oh, they're
doing a show of it, but that's something I won't believe it, like
this Tilt's on Disney Plus because like a video game too, video game,
like how long did it take to get Obi won? But I'm hoping that
will happen. And just need Kira. Well we might talk about Kira because
the showrunner has been doing that so uh. But yeah, I think we're
all We're That's why I hope this show. I hope it does well because
I just feel like if there's Stars fans that don't want to do well,
even if you don't like this one, I feel like it just if people
just give up on Stars, it just kneecaps that. And I guess maybe
that's the world they want, is they just want a world of no more
Star Wars. But then I've I said before, just just watch the George
Lucas stuff and that's really what you like. Just watch those six like.
No one is forcing you. I've always to me, it's like with Minichlorians.
I'm stuck with Minichlorians because that's George. He creates Star Wars and he
decided this is part of it. I still like something some of those movies,
and I can take them as cannon. But if you really want,
you can say, hey, Georgie and fucking write those new trilogy movies.
Those don't count. Like you can do whatever you want in your mind to
make it work. If other people are enjoying it, let them enjoy it.
So they brought that back, you know what Midichlorians. Oh and the
bad Batch. I heard, yeah that m count now, So yeah,
I don't want to hear any sort of counts and stuff. I just pass
out when that happens. But yes, well we'll get into spoilers. So
if you've not seen the episode about now and come out later if you have,
buckle up because we will go deep into it. So we'll be right
back and we're back. Sorry. Joseph Rechi's calling out what is an acolte?
Threw me off. I did get the def I did search the definition
of it today because we are in full spoilers now, so just you know,
fair warning, just because at the end of episode one, the villain
I'm just gonna say, the Sith Lord as right now says that, like
what an accolae means, Like, I don't know if that's the definition of
an acolyte is a person assisting the celebigrant in a religious service or possession or
procession. Sorry, And it's also just an assistant or follower. So that's
really what it is, and that's what our main I guess antagonist is right
now. So we start with the opening scene of Karen Moss, great to
see you, good to have a cup of tea in Star Wars, which
I'm actually fine with, Like, I like, if it's a big mystery.
The Jedi that gets killed is played by a more well known actor actress,
so I like that. But yeah, she's just chilling, hanging out
with a questionable group of people, but still she's chilling. Maybe she likes
to fuck these guys on a Sunday, so whatever, And then uh,
oh god, what's her name is at Or because they're no she's may right,
she's May. She's Osha, and that's what I meant. No,
you're confusing me, who's the evil one me? That's what I said originally,
you know. So anyways, anyway, so May she's which I kind
of appreciate this. And this is where I said, like it's a different
type of star. She walks up and says, I want to fight you.
Karen Mahas like no, I go, I'm getting my drink on,
Like, no, you have to attack me. So almost wants this type
of like ritual to start to fight and go. And then eventually which is
kind of smart, where May just starts kind of fucking up civilians and like
threatening people's lives and everything, and we get this fight scene here and it
ends in her death. But what do you guys think about this opening?
I enjoyed it for the most part. I think there was a good intrigue
there of when the face comes down and the tattoo. I liked that the
fight progress and then she went for the lightsaber and I think there might be
some cheese too it. But I still even liked that she threatened innocent person's
life and maybe that jet I could have popped off a little bit more.
But maybe she just wasn't really thinking this character was gonna kill her killers,
Like I don't know. I was fine with her trying to save someone and
that causes her death because I think that's a good way for a hero to
go out, you know. No, I love that moment. I mean,
it's basically what was shown to us of the action, like in the
trailer, right, that same scene, just a little bit more extended here
Carrie and Moss is that her name, right, yes? Yeah, yeah,
So I just found it funny. Obviously. I was looking forward to
seeing her in this because I loved her from the Matrix. You know,
she filmed a movie here in her hometown of Colonna, So that's a big
deal. Did she She did? She did a zombie movie. Really,
I'll find it maybe later, we'll see, But no, I was looking
forward to that moment. That's and I was very much surprised that she was
the one to bite it, just because she is like the biggest character on
the poster, which I found hilarious in hindsight, She's just in the one
episode. But like you said, it's a good way to kind of mask
who's gonna die. But I thought the action overall was really great there.
I love that moment actually when she does get the best of her, like
May does by basically getting her focus on the civilian, Like it just seems
like such a bad guy thing to do, and you know, like this
is supposed to be our dark User that's going through all these like using the
Jedi's weakness against them, Like I feel like that's just that's what really separates
the Jedi that are just so noble and about their their cod whereas right,
yeah, exactly, whereas it's all about strength, like it's all about power
like when it comes to the Dark Side. So I love that moment that
was shown. I agree. I think Carrie am Moss could have really pull
like just really stepped up, like she she's seeing like a bit of a
Paddawan getting dismantled by this lady with the daggers. I don't know, maybe
this is just my naivete when it comes to this era of the universe,
but it just seems like I don't know if the Jedi just don't, like
they just don't think that she could like get the best of her. But
she did know that she was a Force user, So I don't know it
just it seemed like she was pretty confident. I took it more as because
she probably thought it was her sister, right, what's her name again?
Thought she was Osha Osha. I think when she's thinking it's Osha, at
least that's what I took that she didn't think Osha was gonna actually would kill
her. So that's the way I took it as, like, I know
she's saying that, but maybe, but I don't know, Maybe we'll reveal
later on that Karen must it just know this was some the bad twin or
whatever. I thought she knew who it was once she saw like the birthmark
or tattoo, whatever it is that she has, because that's something that May
has that Osha doesn't like. That's true yea too, So I don't know,
But overall I thought that was really great scene. I like, I
don't know. I did like the moment actually when May doesn't just execute the
barkeep even and though like she sees you know, that's that's a sign of
weakness in the eyes of the of the dark Side user. So I was
curious where that was kind of go which we have yet to kind of see
that part. But right then and there it's like, oh, yeah,
she's not full evil clearly. So I was gonna bring up before Taylor goes,
was that one of the things you're talking about Nonsplores as far as things
we've seen before, and we're going down a certain path as we always have.
I think it's mostly like the Twin aspect and how the show is about
the acolyte, but it's really just about Osha, like getting her sister back,
and it's gonna be just like a purely and maybe I'm just being cynical
right now, but it just seems like it's gonna be like a purely light
side like story overall, like like we're gonna be redeemed. And you know,
maybe I'm getting my predictions in a in an avenue that I could be
surprised, and I'm actually really impressed that they do go darker. But I
don't know. I think May is probably you know, working with Sketchy Magoo
with the the mask in the Red Lightsaber that we see DARTHA don't sketchy.
Yeah, sorry, Darth started sketching Magoo. But it I don't know,
it's just for what I'm showing right now, and maybe I'm just like bringing
in some sort of story that I've seen before that this is kind of reminding
me of it where Ian reexpecting us to go that happnue exactly. And I
don't know. I just don't know if they have the kahonas to really tell
that dark side story. And I hope. I'm totally surprised because I would
that would definitely result in some hype excitement. Yeah, even in Ahsoka like
it did in Full Happen, but they kind of made the Sith user do
a few like nice things, so yeah, I I I don't want that.
But the second she saw our sister and had that moment of pause,
I'm like, Oh, here we go. We're gonna get this redemption and
who knows, maybe that will be the thing. But I've done this so
many times with Star Wars Disney era, where it's like, oh, they're
probably like they're just hinting at this and maybe they're gonna make the turn and
they love that. Technically, the show is called the Acolyte, and that
doesn't imply like we imply because they things have said and it looks red,
but we imply it has to be all bad. But technically, if it's
about May and she is the acolyte then like they're doing their job right,
Like that is that is the show. It's just that. Yeah, I
don't know how much. I guess. I'm very curious of when we get
more of this this Sith Master or a Sith lord or whatever he's gonna be
right, because I feel like you're gonna have to You're gonna have to dive
into some things. And we didn't really get much from these two episodes to
reveal like which route we're gonna go with this character, right, So I
hope there's some episode, and I hope it's not just like a season two
thing. I hope there's one episode where we get even just I just loving
it. They already have a kid actress, so I'm really hoping there's an
episode that would be just senter in May and hers a little girl surviving her
meeting this dark figure, and then how does that go, because I feel
like that's where you could get some good, really dark side stuff. If
you're seeing May grow up with this person, I think you're gonna get it.
And I say this because we've seen in the trailer there is that there's
shots of carry on moss and Master Soul and oh the rookie. So then
they were all in their robes together and this is at the village. So
and I also think because for some reason, the guy that she killed an
episode two, they like put a button, they like gave him like a
receiving hairline, the eave bunch of old age makeup. That to me seems
like he's gonna look younger in the flashback because he did not look that age.
At first, I thought it was Jake Lloyd. I was like,
oh my god, they're pulling am At best they got him to because look,
if you look at that Gi Master, it looks like you could be
him with some makeup, but it's not. So yeah, you could be
right there. And I I would very much like a full, even half
an episode of that. And the super Mike is saying that the showrunner compared
the story to Frozen, so guessing make It's Else arc, which I guess,
but like Elsa didn't like fucking like kill a bunch like Else never killed
anybody in those movies, right, So I get what she's saying. But
yeah, I think she'll my guess, come back and or die. I
don't know. I'm just I sure. Hope the next time we get a
dark Side user one of these shows that we're not gonna turn him good because
it just seems to be that's that's I'm not against redemption, but just seems
to be a very big thing in Disney that we just can have a full
Sith that's like our big antagonist. It always has to be something happens.
But Darre, how are you on the opening scenire? I was not expecting
our Ji Master to die like this, but I I thought it was great.
I loved it. And there's there's a part in the High Republic novels
where you see your boy Marsha and Rowe Marsha and Roe basically, uh,
do you remember the name of the Jedi Master who he was holding hostage?
Was it Doula I think? Or like he was the you're on the right
track, ye Master, Grace Gray Store, Lowden gray Store, the last
one. Poor guy Kirkling. This guy's held in captivity for like maybe a
year. He gets rescued and that's at like the first time he gets out
of jail cell he gets fucking killed like the joyd in there. Oh really
really like it's such a terrible terrible life sort of spose some supper peal,
but like terrible life for this Jedi master in the High Republic era, it's
the way he's he's tortured too, and that's what this show. It just
reminds me of it in some slight degree because the way he's tortured is he's
put in a cell and he just has to sit there and see other people
being tortured and he can't do anything to help them, and that's what's torturing
him, is his inability to help them. And so when you see this
Jedi master here and she sacrifices her life to like stop the throwing knife in
front of that guy's face, and she's just trying to save everyone, it
just was making me think, Okay, this is this is that weakness.
And they even talk about it in the Obi Wan Kenobe show with the Grand
Inquisitors, just like it's like an itch. They can't help it, Like
he just got to help people, right, So the Jedi it's the Jedi
way. So I thought it was great. I really really appreciated enjoyed it,
and I'm trying to figure out, like Master Soul says, why are
you fighting me? Without a weapon, and we've seen multiple times she's going
for their lightsaber, but she doesn't take the lightsaber after she kills them,
So yeah, and it's that the first move she like throws a knife at
mass or Saw and he's like, you won't fight me with a weapon.
It's like she just tried man like like it. But I'm wondering if she's
not technically allowed to be using those because we learned too she's not supposed to
be using the poison, So how she's supposed to kill them, I don't
know, maybe with the lightsaber. I do really enjoy Jedi or just somewhat
force user using these weapons like this. It's cool to see that's not like,
yeah, the old daggers. I like that her throwing them around.
Taylor's wishing some Assassin's Creed game play, some Star Wars. You know,
her whole esthetic is bad ass, all over her hair, with the outfit.
Yeah, like it just looks so badass. She looks like a like
a dark Side assassin would maybe you know, less glowing weapons, But like
you said, I do like the usage of just these throwing eyes. It's
something different. But I like the incorporation of force uh, with it to
kind of really amplify by the weaponry. Yeah, and that's what another thing.
I just love seeing multiple Force users when they do that fight. Just
stuff when she's kicking the table, when she does like a jump around like
a pole like it's a wooden pole, and she's just you can tell,
like the Force movements like, oh, I love, I love you got
multiple characters popping off with that. So I'm excited to see what else she
can do. So this this might be a stretch, but it's the only
kind of explanation I have for this. I really got into like the Vader
comics, and so when Vader first became Vader, he went to he tracked
out a Jedi Master. He had to kill the Jedi Master and take that
master's lightsaber and then made it his own lightsaber because he had to take a
cab a crystal, make a bleed. But this is him doing it without
his own saber and all that stuff. Yet, so I'm wondering maybe,
But again, she didn't take carrying Moss's lightsaber, so yeah, that's true.
And I don't think she took the other guy's lightsaber, so I really
know she didn't. I really don't know or it'll be revealed, because it's
a lot of emphasis on her trying to grab it and they haven't answered that
question. That's true, and maybe she feels she has to get it in
battle, so like taking off a dead bodies not well, that's the other
that's the other part of it too, because she keeps going like, attack
me with all your strength, right, so whatever she whatever the reason is.
Yeah, she wants them to just basically com matter with everything they got,
which I suppose she does to fight with your strength. I'm gonna do
that next time I go to the bus stop. I'm just gonna do that.
Yeah, And like to touch on two things with these Jedi masters.
That's what I'm liking because this happens all the time and we'll have to see
what happens in the show. But the idea that the you know, the
Jedi, just because they are trying to keep the bounce, they aren't all
good. She drops that one little line when the Jedi is like, oh,
we can't you know, attack you that weapon, and then May says,
well, we both know that's not true, and you're like, oh
geez. And then you have the second Jedi pretty much just kill himself,
because like he's like exile cell phone is something like literally, what happened to
him here is what I wanted them to do with Kylo Ren and said killing
him is just him go somewhere and just sit and then'd be great, like,
oh, we need you back. But I like that he willingly was
like I've been waiting for you, and I've been trying to like rectify you
know, certain inequities and stuff. But I liked it that. It's like
she throws that line her saying no, you guys have done some shady stuff,
and this Jedi is fully admitting like, yeah, we whatever happened on
that village, which we'll find out, we fucked up, And that happens
all the time with Jedi in calmics, video games, movies. They're not
all just one hundred percent purely good all the time, or even if they
do, they've made mistakes. So I like, already we're getting that kind
of gray area of okay, what did happen on that village? And even
Master Soul seems very you know, she's like, oh, I forgave you,
but he's like, oh, I didn't really figure myself. So it's
like yeah, what did happen there? So that's another like mini mystery happening,
which I enjoy having. So so and then we that happens, and
then yeah, we meet I mean always, what the fuck is her name?
The other sister or good one may one? Good one is Osha Osha
Osha Osha. I'll try to remember that Occupational health and safety. No,
I'm not gonna remember that. Osha is working on a ship. She's just
some sort of like mechanic. Cool we meet her cool mechanics. It's like,
you're athnic. It's a it's a profession, right because you're supposed to
use R two units to be working on exteriors or shifts. But this is
super fucking cool. It's the Republic has certain laws against it, and so
they have mechnics to go out there and they do it because they can do
it better than droids, right, Like the flexible That's that's a great world
building thing that this. Even when she said she was flexible, I was
like, there's some there's some sass on that line, you know she was
giving them. Yeah, oh, and that's one thing I was gonna say.
So far, just even though with two episodes, again, the Wyman
fans actress. I feel like you can feel a difference between the two characters,
which is not a brother sister of different actors. It's literally she is
playing the you know, she's not playing the same person. It's the same
person playing two roles, which many people have done before and done it well,
but we've also seen it go very terribly. So I love that May
feels like a much more forceful on a mission. No, it's given,
And just even her look and stance, she just looks different. We're even
with uh oh god osha, right, yeah, the good one. Yeah,
she just like just just her interactions with people just feel like that's not
the way May would interact. So alrighty, I think we're off to a
really good start there, so they Yeah, And like when she wakes up
from after May assassinates in Dara, Yeah, I hope that's her name.
You're yeah, Like she she wakes up, and like right away, it
did seem like a completely different character. And honestly, I think it's just
been I think I just kind of forgot there was gonna be a twin element.
I'm like, we're going like fucking malignant here. We're getting like some
weird, like she she keeps like tripping out and then she's like switching personalities.
I thought we were gonna go there for a moment because when she has
like that dream sequence and she's chasing like the small version and she's like,
it's like, what's the line, It's like it's like one, It's like
I forget what it is. I'm gonna have to paraphrase. Yeah, And
I'm like, oh my god, what is going on here? But we
didn't want to go there. I thought we're got some Gabriel inclusion here.
Get him start Gabriel for a Star Wars. Imagine the guy takes off his
mask, is fucking Gabriel under there? Hell yeah, like that share at
her like from remember that jail seen. Imagine Garbrel with fucking red lights.
Or he's gonna go to town. Him and dark Maul's gonna be the best
fight ever think with the way he moves. God damn, you can like
Gabriel. You know, there should be a billion dollar movie. So we
got so many sequels, but no we don't. I feel like Gabriel could
do like a grievous thing too with all four lambsolutely, but no, get
getting back to this show. Yeah, I forget the god her name like
multiple times here, but I completely forget it already. Osha amen, amen,
bla whatever they had Steinberg. Yeah, she's fantastic. I think she's
really great in the role. And uh, I mean just echo everything that
you said on the performance of doing like not just two different characters, but
like the exact same character, dressed the same, looks the same, But
how can you still make that feel different? And she's definitely pulled that off
because I can really feel if it's may Or O'shawn's screen, even if I
don't see like the tattoo berthamark whatever she has on her face there. But
yeah, yeah, and then yeah, so that happens, we meet her,
they come to arrest her. How let me get this character's name here.
How are you guys feeling about your fondar We meet him with his apprentice.
His apprentice, which I like is very buy the book, very stern,
which is like that feels like a high republic thing too. I'm not
sure if you felt those vibes with the way she was interrogating her. Was
that his apprentice get I didn't get that sense. I felt like night he
introduced himself, He's like, I am Jedi knight Yord and this is my
paddle on. Yeah, I thought he said, yeah, And to me
that pad one just being so go like goal focused, not really caring like
all this fits well, I don't. I'm of two minds on him because
I'm not enjoying him that much. But I don't also know if that is
the point, because again Tumbuquai Gone, there's times where he reminds me and
Phantom men as Obi Won is also really annoying and kind of a bitch,
right, So that's where for me, there's times where he's like that,
and if they're trying to go for that almost in a way where you're annoyed,
I think they're doing that well. So for me, the jury's out
on this character. I have to see if like, is this a purposeful
thing, because they're even at the beginning Daphen Keane's character at that missions is
like oh, like you had to pick your fonder or whatever his name is,
so it's like they already were like I kind of kind of think inferring
like, yeah, you're not gonna like this character, so a wait and
see, Like I said, the whole joke about them walking one half naked.
I was like, I don't know if we need this, Like it's
weird, Like I don't even know what it was there for. It was
just a beat that I was like, you could skip over this, But
so I am mixed on him. But yeah, him and his apprentice pick
her up, put her in jail. Found it very odd that this woman
that killed a Jedi that no one escorted her, because even later on he's
like, I apologize or should have escorted her to the prison. It's like
this, it's very They treat it as very rare that a Jedi is getting
killed, and they talk about later on, this could be really bad for
us. A Jedi killed by a former Jedi. We gotta knit this in
the butt. So the fact that they just let her alone with to like
other like other criminalis ship. I thought that was kind of a easy Laxada's
cold decision. But yeah, what are you guys thinking about the uh set
up here with Lord fond Or or Yord fond Aar and uh, it's it's
a weird name, but anything in the sequence. Uh. I I like
him for the role that he's in. I feel like he he looks you
know, he's got the yet I look for sure. And I also just
kind of like the way that he carries himself, for like representing just like
that Jedi night, especially if he's two years in, like he's got some
experience under his belt, but he's not like a master by any means.
So I kind of I don't know, I am liking it. I feel
like when we lean more on the side of like him being a bit of
a comedic character, I don't like it as much. So I see where
you're coming from with the shirtless scene, mostly just the reaction, but I
don't know, I thought it was okay for what it was. It's not
like he's slapstick in every five minutes every time, and he's not like the
main care like he's not taking over right Like he's just another side character as
of right now. So yeah, I think I was maybe because he had
history with Osha and probably May, I would imagine in the past, I
was wanting maybe more from their scenes or just more between the two of them.
I didn't see they'll come there, but it'll come. And I don't
think he had any experience with May though, because I feel like, well,
he knew of her, right because he like when Soul was saying that
it could have been made, like you like you really think that she's still
alive, Like he obviously knew about that, but he probably just his dealings
with Osha because of the Jedi training. Yeah, that's I think he knows
of her. But I don't know if they had any experience or anything together.
But I do hope that it's something more we get pressed on, like
what was their relationship because I liked that she was very jokey with him and
she like punched him on the shoulder and he was not offended, but very
much like like I'm a Jia, like it just like nuts shot him or
something. Yeah, Like it felt like this is the she's the college drop
out and he's the guy who's been a lawyer for two years. Like I
can't talk like that anymore, Like I can't. Yeah, and that's a
great thing because we talked about that all time to her and like fucking Avar
Chris and uh Avarn who l right, there's this man, Yeah, there's
this kind of thing that happened. These two Padawans were maybe fooling around when
they were Padawans and then when their masters, the guy is still very much
wanting to like yeah, and she's like no, like we're proper and stuff
like that. I still don't finish a new book yet too, so I
have to. It's good. Yeah, good, I'm gonna soon. I
have to. But that's not the vibe I got here. But I got
the vibe more in a friendly way where she's talking like there's still almost like
kids, and he's like, well, I'm kind of past that, but
then he's still kind of goofy. So I hope there is more to that
relationship as we continue. So like maybe there is you know, Clone Wars
whatever, Bad Batch stuff. I have no idea. I haven't seen any
of those shows, but like, it is kind of cool to see some
of that dynamic of them past in the academy. It's just something that I
haven't really experienced on my own. So yeah, I liked all those moments
with the Padawan. I thought, yeah, I agree with what you're saying.
I like how she was really much by the book because she's like just
doing it, like she's in the training for it right, like she is
Padawanian under this this chap here. I feel like I haven't really seen that
species before. What she does too, that was kind of cool. It's
definitely a new species, which again, between her and dapneing Keen, I
like that we're getting many characters that are aliens, not just wookies, you
know, like I like seeing a variation. And even Daphne kan She's only
in a little bit so far, but I like that she's kind of a
bit more of a spit fire kind of no fuck's given so far, so
I'm interested to see her and I hope that, uh there's these three we
got may Osha and then I can't remember to do you remember the bald green
alien. She's from the Higher Republic era. I can't remember her name.
That was the character I was gonna mention because we're seeing like, yeah,
like Daphne Keane's character, really cool design and everything, great makeup, and
I just laughed when you have this cream, like it's just the Hulk or
something with like like a cheap cause play. I don't know, it just
seemed like so a little lesser compared to like the details. It's just like
a green thumb. You know, no disrespect the makeup artist or anything,
but I mean you said it's in the High Republic. Yeah, when we
meet her in the High Republic, she's like more like a little girl and
stuff. This is her. It's the young adult novels when we haven't covered
those things. So yeahs yeah, and she has a very controversial lightsaber,
which I'm I don't like, but that's okay. It's been in Star Wars
before. This doesn't matter. That's like being like we've seen it in games
and whatnot, so I don't know, it doesn't matter. That'd be like
if I slept with someone I got herpies and they're like, well other people
got herpies. Like, this doesn't mean very different, I use compared to
a lightsaber. I hate. I hate that example because that was a big
debate right where people said this lightsaber is lame and stupid, and I agree
to Kirkle and it's a whip. It's a whip lightsabers. That's I said.
It's lascid. Not a fan of that, so that but people's arguments,
I was like, well, this was back in legends, doesn't make
it good. It's like the same way of like when books adapt movies and
they go, oh, that's how it happened in the book. Well,
then it fucking sucks in the book too, Like I will say, it's
not my justification, like, oh, they've already been doing it for years,
but I won't. Well, I will say it has been around,
so it's not new, so I know that, but it's due to live
action stuff though. For yeah, yeah, it's definitely unique. And I
mean not a fan, not a fan, and that's fair, like I'm
not. You got different types of lightsabers and this is just another one.
They're all solid, they're all solid, and you know me too, I
don't even in the Dark Era, I don't like the inquisitors like those ones.
I'm not a fan of flying away with the helicopter savers. I'm not
a big fan of that. I just like it's straight, and then you
do different things. You had crossblades, you had a double braid, even
dokus, like you want to have a torque. That's okay, But when
it starts like spinning around, like at least, what what the fuck is
his name? Grievous, it's like, well, they're not the lightsabers not
spinning, it's just his hands are spinning. So it's like I can I'm
fine with that but we'll get there when she busts them. Maybe it's her
arm that's actually just whipping. Oh but what I was gonna say, what
Gabriel gets, Oh, he would be swinging all over those Yeah, before
we get to fart. My point was with these characters, I hope this
is the amount of main characters we have for an eight episode show that's gonna
be around forty to thirty five minutes. I hope they don't also get that
villain, but I don't want them to introduce any more. Like, I'm
kind of good with the five good guys because I think that we'll get into
it. But I think that Wookie is gonna I think die. I imagine
there's a high chance he dies. Yeah, so that's what I'm kind of
like. I'm fine with the five good characters. And then we got Osha
on the main, Like, I think that's the right amount. So I
hope this is kind of our crucause I like when she's like, oh,
you're putting together a team I and I appreciate that was only three people.
I was like, oh, fuck, we're gonna get like five or six.
Jedis here, We're not gonna have tough enough time to meet them all
Summer can Fodder. I like that it's just a team of three that were
on the mission. I liked that number, and I like their pairings together
so far. And also I guess we didn't mention it all, but like,
I just really liked h Master Soul's setup of its him in the class
talking to people that one kid has he has to fucking worry about. That's
gonna be an Anakin kid. There the fucking I see fire burns and it
hurts, like look out for that. Yet at first I thought that was
a flashback to Oh Shot. I thought that was because you know, the
same in the city looked like talking about fire, she's the thing of fire.
I'm not sure she was just having a vision about what Master Soul was
gonna go on, because that happens too, right, like even in the
c a man named Palpatine. Well no, but sometimes like Yoda had the
one kid that right, was like, oh, something like this, So
I like that introduction as well. Yeah, I'm going to backtrack, but
here, so when when Osho was introduced, yeah she was mac neck and
we got Yord coming in there. I've I've really really liked your he just
kind of he's given me bells out of our vibes for some reason. I'd
still put bell over him. Yeah, but I'm just really really jiving with
him. The whole setup here where we get to see what Osh is up
to, fuck the trade federationships with the Nabodians. I was like, oh,
this is this is so good. I'm really really loving this. This
is just this fantastic. That's what Maddison's making fun of me, because I
was like, ohmoyans. Madsin's like, oh, what the what the fuck?
You're never touching me again. They're not with the posters in your room,
big naemoium poster in here. But that was just almost like a painting
of what Taylor would look like as that race. You know, that's what
I want, And so really really cool set up here. Yeah, and
I guess yeah, Yord's padawan cool. I love the directness of her approach
that was neat and didn't get to come in the mission though she had just
didn't get no. Yard's like, no, you're not coming on for this
one. You're staying staying behind. So I think master soul coming together here,
getting the team put together, our characters so far I like, as
I alluded to, and the non spoilers, each one has a very unique
personality and mindset to them. It makes them unique characters. And I think
this is great because you have Master Soul, who's you who you said Travis
is just kind of like a uh a reverse Qui Gon, but it's like
still humble in that regard. You have his padawan who is very much.
It's funny because like she she catches herself and she asks for permission, but
she's very I think forward and direct, and that might bite her in the
butt a little bit here because I'm I'm curious to see how many of these
Jedi already get fucked up when we go to fight this the Master, I
mean, is he just going to annihilate all of them? Because I have
I have a sneaking suspicion that most of them are going to die to keep
this secret. And I think too, when you get to well, I'll
say that after first, I'll continue on with your he's very much uh,
he not fearful, but he is someone who is probably very i'd say tense
and thinking a lot. He's overthinking. Soul did say like, don't ye
guide absolutely what is this, what is that? What is that? I
think he's a he's very cautious, overly cautious. He's not feeling. He's
a guy that I feel like is very by the book, and he's not
a guy that like the forces flow and through him. You know, I
don't think he's that. I don't a little force. I think he's the
guy that's like great at like the striking, and like he's very trained up
that way. But as far as like someone sitting down and just feeling everything
around him, I don't think he's master that yet, which I want to
say for I forget. I really appreciated that they had, oh Sha try
to use the force. They killed the music a few sounds and it didn't
work. And I really enjoyed that that it wasn't just a pick up and
go I'm sure it will happen, but I liked that they almost faked you
out of like oh she's gonna do and like, nah, she's rusted,
she can't do it. So I enjoyed that moment right there, she gives
me calcastus vibes. Yeah, a little I could see, especially because he
kind of had like a tech job too and everything, so I can see
what you're putting down there. Would he be considered a mechnic? No,
he's just another tech or it's just a tech guy. Yeah, we got
at the very beginning of the episode of episode one, we got like the
interesting kind of like dialogue that popped in. They did it with Ahska as
well. I like that. It's not an opening crawl, but it's still
it feels unique to their Star Wars shows they're doing, and yeah, I'm
really enjoying that. So with the dialogue or the text that they threw up
in there, they were talking about how and one hundred years, YadA,
YadA, YadA, but they didn't say Sith, but they just alluded to
this this dark figure kind of coming out and not just one of them,
but it almost was kind of ambiguous in the sense that maybe there is multiple
ones, but this one chose to kind of come out a little bit and
make a move and make a play against the Jedi here by using the Acolyte,
which I liked, and it makes me wonder, Okay, how many
of these are out there now? Sith is a very bold word, and
I think the Jedi are probably not They're not shocked to come across Force users
that are grown grown ups. I mean, we've seen in Star Wars before
that there are Force users who they maybe I think it was an even in
the Dark Plaguis book Kirkland, if you can remind me if I'm wrong here,
but Plaguas detected that there was a guy using the Force to win at
gambling. Yeah yeah, so Moss Kannada and that's yeah, yeah, that's
exactly it. So there's there's there's characters that never became Jedi, never became
Sith whatever, but they used the Force. And so I'm in this sense
I feel like, Okay, the Jedi Master Nara is like, oh,
we got an unknown Force user here. So I like that he was like,
who's the Sith that trained you? Like it was a good jump to
that. Like, I think that should I think they should talk about the
dark Side because we've seen that scene right of they're in the woods, and
I feel like that could happen. Next week is where that Wookie looked like
where wooded area, So I feel like that could happen. Then I think
that's the second you see red lightsaber in a Sith pop off, that's when
you have the conversations of like, hey, like this kind of similar to
something that's happened and something I will give the show credit when they said,
hey, we want to keep a Jedi killing a Jedi on the download,
which I actually appreciated because I didn't really think of it. I'm like,
yeah, that would be kind of like people have a lot of fucking questions
about that going on, right, So I do think there is a route
where this stuff could happen and they do just lie about it, which I'm
fine with it because they're already trying to lie just about their own Jedi dying.
So they bump into a Sith. I don't think they're just gonna run
back and say, hey, you know whoever the Chancellor is right now the
sit they're back and this is going on, So I think they won't even
think about Sith until they see that, Like, and that's where I think
that information could easily just fade with them. Like if if this guy who's
just been so good at hiding the Master pops out, he loses his acolyte,
which I feel like is going to be the case, so that's why
he comes out, I choiced to I can't say at this point, probably
I feel like at this point everyone could just die. Everyone has at risk
of dying because we're in the prequels here, and I mean, they'll keep
a select feel alive, but they'll keep a select fuelive for the next season
or something like that. But who would kill May in your opinion? Then
the mas I feel like, I feel like I just love that, Like
he's gonna come out because he's gonna lose, He's gonna lose his acl likee,
how does he lose actltes? But think about it. But think about
it like end of spoilers. If you haven't played a Fallen Jedi Jedi Fallen
Order, remember when the sister with the Inquisitors just like speaks to her Master.
I I'm paraphrasing, of course, but like like, hey, I'm
sorry whatever, or run and Darth Vader approaches behind her and just fucking like
you failed me apprentice and failed me inquisitor and just slashes her down. I
feel like you could get something similar to that and where he's just like you
failed me Acolyte and fucking Master just cuts her in half or something like that.
Or there could be a situation that maybe for some reason, I don't
know why, maybe he thinks Osha is the stronger one right and would prefer
to have because if you if they try and go with again, it's a
lie. We talked about today in our discord, the whole rule of two
things Disney George broke that they've all broke. That that's the biggest lie in
the world. It's like, I don't know the free shipping on Amazon,
and then when you go like, oh wait, that's not free. You
gotta pay this whatever it is for me. I think that if they want
to still try like oh, there's only two of them, that could be
a situation where maybe he wants oh shaw instead of may you know, try
the dark Knight scene. I think that's that's got a lot of traction to
it. I could see that that'd be pretty cool. But I will say
to counter though, and we've talked about this so many times, like if
you look at a municipal municipal district that is allowed like okay, ten police
officers, that's that's the that's the rule. That's a little bit. We
only have legislation for ten police officers, but we can have tons of sheriffs,
we have tons of security guards. Does doesn't security guards. That's the
same thing here. No, it's title, the title of things that's on
the as a red light. That's not a sith. That's that's a sith
though, that title. No, that's what the Sith was composed as in
the prequels. And then eventually they doesn't work though, because they had they
had whip lightsabers back then. So I mean, it doesn't It doesn't matter
when the prequels came out, not when the prequels came out, Kirkland,
what do you think, George and Dave? No, you guys have already
done this to me. I'm not changing my mind, George. They had
no ideas for the Clone Wars, like, well, you can't fight Palpatine,
you can't count Dooku fight everybody. Well let's have Darth Maul and let's
have a Ventest and but she's an assassin, Like it's all bullshit stuff for
them, just like we like red lightsabers, you know, God damn well
again, she she's not a Sith, and she's just way to be.
She's on her way to becoming something. Whether or not this guys sith,
we don't even know. I mean, I'm I'm hoping he is wearing a
scary mask with a red lightsaber, and he's black. But Kyle re sith.
He's a sith. No he's not. He's a sith. No he's
not, he's It was already rule too, No, don't give me the
night a ram he has a rule too. It was him and Snoke,
and then when snoked, his Snoke was definitely not a syth. He was
you know how he us because he's fucking Palpatine SnO. Palpatine was like,
al doesn't matter. Palpatine is Snoke. A last equation. Snoke is a
sith. Let's not go down this route. Okay, No, they're all
sith, but yeah, we'll see. For people that have watched Niptok,
watch if you haven't, check out the Carver's voice and the Cyths leader's voice.
They sound like identical. I wasn't on your guys's trailer breakdown. The
voice to me is fine. The mask I have to wait and see is
like could be like a little try hard. In my opinion, it just
like just like I don't know if I like the teeth yet. It just
screams like this is really evil, Like I I didn't seem like, oh,
that's what I want to own, I felt, but it is a
different air estimating. They just feel like they have to like be overtly evil.
But it's a Sith. It's a sith. This could be fucking plague
us for all, you know, hiding a mask. Oh no, but
like they could do whatever they want, you know, so maybe it is
so I don't know, And I did like that that doctor Soul was like
our doctor Soul fu Master Soul even was like, you don't even know the
identity of this person, and it just kind of like made out, which
I think was kind of good, putting some seeds of doubt into her mind
of she probably trusts this I'm just gonna say sith Lord for now, But
the sith Lord doesn't trust her enough to probably give her details about himself or
herself or show his face, right, So I like that was a good
seed of doubta like you couldn't even tell me who this person was, even
if you like, even if I read your mind right now, right,
which was starting to do. So, yeah, we'll see what the Sith
I I hope it. I think there's lots of that character. There's lots
of room for Era that's that's are all say with the Sith Lord. I
think there's lots of ways to come off very lame, very met, very
bright can why so we'll see what happens. Uh So I'm intrigued. Of
course, it's great to have like a Jedi Sith situation going on in the
semi prequel era, but I really have to seen all these two episodes.
We only got to see the end when they he said, like an act
Lite doesn't use blasters or steel, even though again she killed a Jedi with
steel in that same episode, So a lot of messaging that doesn't make sense
for what she should be doing fighting. I don't know, so we should
taking an AD break. So let's take an AD break and we'll be right
back. And we're back. Where do we want to go? Now?
What have we not touched up on here? Or who are we not?
Where is that it? We're calling it right there? She's yeah, well,
what we we talked about the Yeah, we talked about the two Jedis
being assassinated. We talked about the sisters. I mean, that's that's really
about it. We talked about the villain. I mean, I can't think
of anything else aside from the fact that I just I'm curious to see where
this is going to take us, and when we look at what we've seen
in a trailer, I feel like a fair bit has already been revealed.
That's scene too, where she may is walking on the beach and we see
this the master. I wasn't thinking that was gonna be the ending of the
first episode, so that caught me off guard, and so I was a
little disappointed it wasn't like more than that, because it is such a great
shot and I love that shot in the trailer. I was expecting to like
that to be the start of a scene. That's why I was just so
like, what, it's over already, Like that's all we get. We
literally just get the scene from the trailer, like nothing more to that.
So I was a little bit bummed by that. But yeah, I I
like, it's a beautiful shot. I loved it in the trailer. I
loved it here, but maybe just a little bit disappointed I didn't get a
close up. I think I was surprised to hear his voice that early in
the show, but then when I didn't get anything more, it's like,
oh, okay, yeah, we're back to where we were in the trailer,
but I am excited to get more dialogue with that and just kind of
see where his motivations are at this point in time in the universe, because
this is kind of new to me. Well at least I said, we
said non sports too. This was bare in episode two. It's just the
fucking whookie yelling at guy I get away from his hot Like what were they
doing there? Like that was that was a lame? That was another one.
It just seemed like we're gonna get more of a scene, just like
cuts to credit. This can't be the ending, is it? Okay?
It was so Yeah. I like how these these dark Side users just they'll
just whip their lightsaber out just because he's standing not even facing may on the
rocks, and he just turns his lightsaber on. They just love that.
Mall talking to uh Kira on Hologram seen it. I'm just like, cool,
you've read Lightsaber, you know I get one of those. Yeah.
Yeah. My question is, because I, like I said, I wasn't
on that episode. Do you think this character is someone completely new or do
you think it is someone that is tied to something. I can't answer that
because I don't know what's going on in this era. No. I meant
something like if you were like it was a master of a master that led
to like a play yes to a pop team, Like do you think it's
still someone like that or you think it's like a sif that Hey, they
tried up rise a little bit and they just get snuffed out and then you
know that's it. I would be truly shocked if it is like one of
those big mains that at least I know of, like the you know,
when I'm looking at like the Mount Rushmore of of Sith Masters, I'm not
expecting to see one of those names on there, Like yeah, okay,
sorry say it again. Pine's on there for sure, Palpatine's gotta be on
there. Yeah, I feel like it's it's probably, but I would just
go I'd probably just like go down, like back down the line. Well,
I guess, Bain. See that's the thing like to my including like
way back in the old Republics, I feel like the Sith are kind of
a different era in that they're still Sith School to Bain's like the big head,
you know, I don't know, I don't know the fucking presidents that
are on mount Rushmore. I apologize, I'm not an American, but whatever
one is like off to the left, like on his on his own,
like that's bane to me. That's like the main head haun show. Uh
definitely has to be in there because helps how many people are on there for
for oh my god, you don't know that. Yeah, it's for just
shapes. Here'sts for you. For some reason, they didn't put actually a
costplayer and Darth Tyrannus as well, Darth Maul Dark Trail. Du Yeah.
So this is what's interesting the because she has a different name. She's a
code name right, she's undercover right here. But the creator said that the
villain is inspired by Darth Tyra, which that got me fucking Jones. And
she did specifically say no, try no, She did specifically say it's not
her. Yeah, cray, what's her name? And I think uh uh
it was shout in the chat earlier she I think she might be on my
amount Rushmore because man, it's not not even like a big twist and too,
but just the way she fucks me. And she's one of the more
creepier Sith lords and she just has like this or of like I don't know
if we can fucking kill her, and that's what she does. She's like
missing at least one hand. And when she fights you, she raises the
lightsabers using the force. She doesn't wield them, she uses them with them.
Yeah, and it's fucking yeah, she's scary. So like I think,
for me, Nihilis is pretty fucking cool though, like that mask,
so it's yeah cool, It's always it's always Popatine, it's always Revin.
I'll throw I follow Kira Tarror on Tyra, on there Tyria and then yeah,
yeah, and then I don't know, it's like I can see that
for Darth Dane, to see it from Dark Knights. Taylor and I have
a huge shaft spot for Darth Sion, but I couldn't part Darth signed on
the Mount Rushmore. He's just like a fucking He's just like powerhouse. But
I loved her sarrying like this is a guy, like okay, yeah,
he just won't die. Yeah, because I feel like if you talk about
they talk about how in wounds you're consumed by hate, I feel like there's
no one more consumed by hate than this fucking guy, because look at the
he should be dead ten times over, but I would love this in live
action. This guy so And that's why I'm kind of fine with if she
says it's not Kira, because it's like, well, hopefully if we do
get them. But this was uh Taria's master or sorry apprentice at the time.
It Sith. Yeah, and he fucking hates her. He can't and
he's always at the Killer. So at first, when you think you can
trust Kira, you're like, oh, you know, but yeah, he's
so Yeah. I really don't know. The fourth one I'd have to think
about because I love Kyla Ren, but I could never put him as like
a Sith master, like he's like, what, No, he's definitely a
Sith. He's more powerful than Vader. But in The Invader, I couldn't
put Vader on the list, like I think, to me, being a
lord, you still have to have some control, and I think the Skywalker
Blood like they're very like, they're very out there. So I'll go if
Darth Baane is the safe choice for my fourth right choice, yeah, yeah,
I know, I'm I'm not as affiliate with him as you are,
but yeah, Darth Baane definitely the big head on their Darth Plagus Darth Citis
no dumb for You're like, oh, I don't know, you know,
it all depends on your what do you grew up with? You know?
No, for sure, Like I feel like tender Briss could be on there.
I just because of my experience with him. You kind of see him
at the end of his his career in the Plaguist novel Revin is just so
great. But you're also like, that's just such a great twist I think
in the Kotur but he's still too much if no one's played that game.
But he's even before Kotor, he's still a great cith floor right, Like
he's a powerful and that's something that's experienced in uh, like in the play
in the Darth Baine novels, I believe like he comes across some of Revens
like old Sith Holcrons and just so yeah, he has influence on my favorite
Sith lord. So yeah, I guess he's kind of in there as an
honorable rocket and he balks the red and purple lightsaber. That's pretty fucking cool.
Yeah, come on, let's get Dark Knight. So Republic, what
do you got for your Mount Rushmore? I mean, I'm definitely like,
yeah, Darth Sion, he's in there. I'll never forget really dark silenced
because when I like growing up when I was a kid and playing that,
playing the Night so Old the Public too. When you get off that station
and then he just pops in there, it's like fire. Yeah, It's
like, man, like I was just there. Who's this guy? He's
terrifying. Yeah, because you bound through a bunch of enemies and he's like
the last one. It's like a classic Star Wars singer, like the doors
keep closed opening and he's getting close. You're like, oh my fuck.
Yeah, and then it's just this guy that's burnt to a crisp, has
a red lightsaber and he's like I love pain and you're like, oh fuck,
yeah, he's terrifying. Yeah, it's but very very very cool character.
Yeah, playing Gas is in there for sure, I probably say,
I mean, Trey is really really cool too. And that turn really just
blew my mind because I was I wasn't thinking she was actually gonna be the
dark side at all. So I got Sion, Plaguus Sidious is absolutely in
there, and then yeah, I'd go bane, I'd it would be between
between the high lists or Treya, and you had Revend on there. Did
you say I didn't have going on with the revn love here? My god,
I'm not. I'm surprised you don't have them on there, Taylor.
Maybe the game was out we like them more. Yeah, I need a
refresher with this character so good the legends, like that's the whole thing.
They're so scared of him coming back. The Jedi like they're so Disney.
So I'm just surprised. I'm surprised you got Sion over Revin because Reven I
just feel like he Red would fucking take Sion the task, you know,
like he's man. You gotta do like a ranking of these lords and take
account their look, because Reven's mask is just so such a great look.
Oh yeah, but then you got something like Scion that's like he doesn't need
a fucking armor or anything, going commando running at you, Crispy Dick and
all. He's not command at all. He's still he's still with his pants.
I think there's some cheeks in that game. We'll see. Is there
anything else specific about this show that we want to talk about before we end
this episode? On episode three? Yeah? Episode three should be fun I'm
excited to talk about I'm excited to see where the show goes, and uh
yeah, see what's going on. We'll be back. So yeah, if
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and it will not be boring. And may the Force be with you