WEBVTT 1 00:00:22.960 --> 00:00:31.120 Hey, everybody, It's Tuesday, February sixth, twenty twenty four. I 2 00:00:31.280 --> 00:00:35.320 continue to be surprised by the dates, but I'm happy to be here, 3 00:00:35.359 --> 00:00:38.799 and I'm happy that you're here. Welcome to the John BombCast, Episode eight 4 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:41.880 hundred and twenty six, powered by in sixty. I am your host, 5 00:00:42.039 --> 00:00:47.399 Jan Ochoa, co captain of the ship, helping me navigate the wide, 6 00:00:47.479 --> 00:00:52.560 wide, difficult world of news. He's squeezing for news. Look at that 7 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:56.280 that iron grip pleazer thing, the iron claws coming for you. Jan. 8 00:00:56.439 --> 00:00:58.759 That's right, I'm here, and I'm glad to be back. Honestly, 9 00:00:58.759 --> 00:01:02.880 I missed the BombCast. Jeff Grub is here, folks. How's it going, 10 00:01:02.880 --> 00:01:04.560 man? I feel great now. I feel secure. You're gonna hold 11 00:01:04.599 --> 00:01:08.079 on to me tight with that iron claw. Absolutely, these pinky fingers have 12 00:01:08.159 --> 00:01:12.560 never been stronger. There we go, There we go, rounding out uh 13 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:19.959 the three giant bomb folks on the pod. Today we have our own alkaline 14 00:01:21.000 --> 00:01:25.920 trio. Jeff Becklay. Nice nice way to work that in there. I 15 00:01:25.959 --> 00:01:32.560 watched half of The Iron Claw last night, and zac Efron, when you 16 00:01:32.599 --> 00:01:36.079 first see that, man, you're sort of like, what's happened? Here 17 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:40.560 are my eyes playing tricks on me. Is this some sort of prosthetic situation? 18 00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:44.519 Like, what exactly is happening? Is he actually that swollen that dude 19 00:01:44.599 --> 00:01:49.719 loves sucking up his body for acting. There's something just on. Someone's not 20 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:52.959 clicking with my brain. When I first saw him, I'm like, that's 21 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:56.760 not a human being. That's not a person. That is wrong. That 22 00:01:56.879 --> 00:02:00.200 is a man whose metal has been tested by hitting his head in the game. 23 00:02:00.640 --> 00:02:05.519 He is a wild cat. And speaking about wildcats, he's here for 24 00:02:05.560 --> 00:02:07.159 a good time, not a long time. We got our dear friend from 25 00:02:07.240 --> 00:02:12.639 kind of Funny snow Bike Mike is in the house. Hey, oh what 26 00:02:12.840 --> 00:02:15.800 up, giant bomb crude, thanks for having me on this lovely Tuesday. 27 00:02:15.080 --> 00:02:19.439 And man Zach is just ripped and I love seeing it, you know, 28 00:02:19.719 --> 00:02:23.159 Oh yeah, absolutely, snow Bike Mike, I got. I gotta tell 29 00:02:23.159 --> 00:02:25.240 you, like, I was feeling a little frazzled, nah, because you 30 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:29.120 know, I stayed up a little too late, I was drinking a little 31 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:31.960 bit too much coffee. I was getting a little bit difficult with my coffee 32 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:38.159 grinder because the partner, bless her heart, got me a beautiful sorry, 33 00:02:38.479 --> 00:02:40.400 is your partner the coffee grinder no, no, no, no, no. 34 00:02:40.759 --> 00:02:46.560 She bought me a coffee grinder for Valentine's Day in our anniversary, and 35 00:02:46.599 --> 00:02:49.240 then here I go fudging it up. I'm like, yeah, I got 36 00:02:49.280 --> 00:02:52.719 a podcast an hour, an hour, I can fudge around and recalibrate this, 37 00:02:53.159 --> 00:02:54.360 you know, fast forward forty minutes and I look at the time. 38 00:02:54.400 --> 00:02:58.599 Oh no, oh no, you gotta get this pot on the road. 39 00:02:58.840 --> 00:03:05.039 Snow bike Mike stroll in with your your your beautiful smile audio listeners, the 40 00:03:05.159 --> 00:03:08.240 energy audio listeners. I can't tell y'all enough how much of a calming, 41 00:03:08.319 --> 00:03:14.319 happy presence, snow bike Mike just radiates. It's thanks Dan, It's true. 42 00:03:14.560 --> 00:03:16.400 Like I don't think we ever got to hang out in real life just 43 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:20.919 yet, but like, uh, it's tough not to smile when you're around 44 00:03:22.599 --> 00:03:25.400 Mike. I love you know that. You know that, guys, And 45 00:03:25.439 --> 00:03:28.960 it's gonna be a great Tuesday. We got a lot of awesome stuff to 46 00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:30.319 talk about. It get to, you know, just hang out and chat 47 00:03:30.360 --> 00:03:32.479 with all of you. A lot to share. I don't know if y'all 48 00:03:32.520 --> 00:03:36.199 know, but I've been playing Final Fantasy seven. Yeah no, there's a 49 00:03:36.240 --> 00:03:38.400 cat in the game. You know that there's a cat. You didn't know 50 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:42.080 that. I saw that. You not knowing that, and you know, 51 00:03:42.159 --> 00:03:45.120 we're like Dan, just a delight watching you play. Actually, you know 52 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:49.120 we were we were gonna talk about the news up front, but Mike, 53 00:03:49.159 --> 00:03:53.240 I want to hear about your your adventures in Final Fantasy seven. A man, 54 00:03:53.319 --> 00:03:55.639 I am on a grand adventure through Final Fantasy seven remake. It is 55 00:03:55.680 --> 00:04:00.080 my first time playing a Final Fantasy game, is my first time really getting 56 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:03.919 through it. And you know, it has been a journey with Cloud and 57 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:08.199 the gals and some of the crew from the Avalanche. We've been having some 58 00:04:08.319 --> 00:04:11.560 fun and you know, we just dropped part of the plate. It's tough. 59 00:04:11.719 --> 00:04:14.680 It's tough. I I gotta say, I think I saw your tweet 60 00:04:15.560 --> 00:04:19.639 admiring Jesse on the Avalanche crew, and I was like, I clapped my 61 00:04:19.639 --> 00:04:23.199 hands and I stood up him, like that's my man right there. That's 62 00:04:23.199 --> 00:04:27.519 a man of taste. Forget Tita, forget Eric. Jesse is the right 63 00:04:27.639 --> 00:04:31.480 choice there. She's caring, she's energetic, she's got a great energy about 64 00:04:31.480 --> 00:04:36.360 herself. She's down to possibly commit some eco terrorism, you know what I 65 00:04:36.399 --> 00:04:43.839 mean. Yeah, yeah, and she comes strapped, she's she's decked out 66 00:04:43.920 --> 00:04:50.360 in Knight armor that may or may not be appropriate for the situation, But 67 00:04:50.519 --> 00:04:56.160 are you do your time? You're digging your time with eco terrorism and looking 68 00:04:56.199 --> 00:05:00.160 for Maco, and then you know, I am digging my time. I 69 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:03.279 am missing the love triangle that is Kingdom Hearts after I've just started Kingdom Hearts 70 00:05:03.279 --> 00:05:08.560 one and into Chain of Memories, so I missed that kind of you know, 71 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:13.399 Ricky Sora and uh, you know Kyrie's love triangle. I really loved 72 00:05:13.439 --> 00:05:15.800 that. Not getting that here, but it is a ton of fun. 73 00:05:15.879 --> 00:05:18.879 I'm excited to play all the way through this and then go on to Rebirth 74 00:05:19.120 --> 00:05:23.360 when that drops. But it's been a great adventure. Hell yah, Hellia. 75 00:05:23.879 --> 00:05:28.120 Any any intentions on trying to sneak in the Little Deal C chapter before 76 00:05:28.199 --> 00:05:30.120 Rebirth? One hundred percent? You know, I've been asking people, do 77 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:33.000 I have to watch the movie? Do I need to play the DLC? 78 00:05:33.120 --> 00:05:35.959 And everybody's kind of nod in their head. Yes. So we're gonna make 79 00:05:35.959 --> 00:05:40.040 that happen. We're gonna make that happen. Hell Yah, Hellya. Ricky 80 00:05:40.120 --> 00:05:43.040 is what I'm gonna call Ricou from now on. I don't, yeah, 81 00:05:43.120 --> 00:05:46.360 Ricky, I don't. I don't care what anyone tells me. I'm updating 82 00:05:46.399 --> 00:05:49.680 the Kingdom Heart's lore actively, folks. I'm logging onto the fandom wiki right 83 00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:54.879 now, changing it to Ricky. Well, gentlemen, how's how's everyone else 84 00:05:54.959 --> 00:05:59.399 doing good? Doing real good? All right, Well, I've been mentioned 85 00:05:59.399 --> 00:06:01.879 I've been going on walks every morning. I started adding some skipping in there 86 00:06:01.920 --> 00:06:04.600 because my someone, my discord, told me it's really healthy to do that, 87 00:06:05.879 --> 00:06:10.000 to skip. Yeah. Absolutely, I do it like one hundred yards 88 00:06:10.040 --> 00:06:12.480 at a time, probably four times on a two point five mile walk. 89 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:17.120 My heel hurts, hurt myself skipping, I think. All right, Johnny, 90 00:06:16.720 --> 00:06:21.600 So like what's as opposed to running? I'm just I'm just sort of 91 00:06:21.639 --> 00:06:26.839 confused, like why skipping isn't that? Mostly I'm doing it because I knew 92 00:06:26.839 --> 00:06:31.439 it would kind of upset you that it's not upsetting me. If anything, 93 00:06:31.439 --> 00:06:35.920 I would you all, I'm not upset. See, I think people canflate 94 00:06:36.079 --> 00:06:43.079 me being upset with me. I don't know another word. Uh, And 95 00:06:43.120 --> 00:06:46.399 that's the truth. Like if I were driving down the down the road and 96 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:48.839 I saw skipping down the sidewalk, I wouldn't be upset at that. I 97 00:06:48.839 --> 00:06:53.839 would not be mad at that would you be scared, though, I'd be 98 00:06:54.120 --> 00:06:56.720 I'd be scared. I'd be like, oh, wow, he's gotten some 99 00:06:56.800 --> 00:07:00.839 really good news. I guess, how how high are you getting off the 100 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:04.399 ground on these skips? Are they efficient like distance traveling skips or are they 101 00:07:04.519 --> 00:07:11.160 like whimsical skips. I just couldn't be happier that you are asking me that, 102 00:07:12.519 --> 00:07:15.160 yeah, because like I was like thinking about it today. I was 103 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:16.839 doing like like the high skips, like getting a lot of air, and 104 00:07:16.879 --> 00:07:19.240 I'm like, I kind of feel like I can go pretty fast if I 105 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:23.040 like start like trying to propel myself forward and try to get distance. And 106 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:26.079 I started doing that and I was booking, I was flying. I was 107 00:07:26.279 --> 00:07:28.959 getting some speed, so I can kind of do both. But you could 108 00:07:28.959 --> 00:07:30.720 feel if you like really think about it and you like use your leg to 109 00:07:30.759 --> 00:07:34.160 propel you forward, you can get a lot of speed and it feels really 110 00:07:34.160 --> 00:07:42.079 cool, actually cool. Jeff Beckler, you it isn't cool. You're like 111 00:07:42.160 --> 00:07:44.759 deconstructing skipping. You're like, I don't know if you guys have done it, 112 00:07:45.319 --> 00:07:49.439 but this changes the way you can move. You tried to hy motherfuckers 113 00:07:49.439 --> 00:07:55.040 tried skipping. It's out there. We're making it real. I'm into alternative 114 00:07:55.079 --> 00:07:59.040 walking and it is sick. Let me tell you, Jeff Beckler, I 115 00:07:59.120 --> 00:08:01.240 can I ask you a personal question? I mean, why not? Who 116 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:07.879 cares anymore? Anytime you've ever seen your father, have you ever skipped it 117 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:11.959 to him? Hell no, there's no way. I'm maybe skipped in the 118 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:24.040 opposite direction. So you skipped away from your loo, Mike, Mike, 119 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:28.759 Mike Backlar's dad's name is Lou. Okay, I just wanted to make sure 120 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:33.919 I love it now the show. You've made me dizzy. I'm physically dizzy 121 00:08:33.960 --> 00:08:39.919 from that. What are you doing well, folks? Thanks for joining us 122 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:43.240 on a wonderful episode of The Giant Podcast. Shouts out to Mike, everybody 123 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:50.759 for rolling everybody, Uh get holy ship. Good for you than you to 124 00:08:50.799 --> 00:08:56.840 have the guts setting up the pieces, set up the pieces. Uh you 125 00:08:56.879 --> 00:09:01.600 know, since we got bike here, let's talk about the news. All 126 00:09:01.720 --> 00:09:05.759 news, baby, let me skip to that news. We needed your expertise 127 00:09:05.799 --> 00:09:09.559 here, Mike. Oh, thank you, thank you. I think we're 128 00:09:09.559 --> 00:09:11.279 all looking at grub over here for this news. But yeah, that's gonna 129 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:15.639 be. Yeah, let's get into it. I've got some news here. 130 00:09:15.759 --> 00:09:20.480 Let's start with whatever one's freaking out about Xbox may bring its games to PlayStation. 131 00:09:20.600 --> 00:09:24.039 Rumor suggests Microsoft plans to release several first party games, including Starfield, 132 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:28.960 Hi Fi Rush, and See If Thieves on rival platforms like PlayStation five. 133 00:09:28.399 --> 00:09:33.000 Starfield, which launched in August twenty twenty three, was a success, and 134 00:09:33.039 --> 00:09:35.840 Microsoft aims to bring it to PlayStation five after the release of the Shattered Space 135 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:41.559 expansion, so basically it'd be like a year or more of Xbox exclusivity seems 136 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:45.000 to be something that could be common across a lot of Xbox games going forward. 137 00:09:45.399 --> 00:09:50.000 And what's strange here is it's all been rumored so far and leaks. 138 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:54.840 Microsoft has said that they are going to have a business update next week to 139 00:09:54.919 --> 00:09:58.480 kind of confirm what is happening. So basically they are confirming without confirming it, 140 00:09:58.519 --> 00:10:01.240 but we don't know exactly what the details are. This has led to 141 00:10:01.279 --> 00:10:05.559 a lot of anxiety about what's happened about the future of Xbox. Primarily, 142 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:11.639 the concern is people are looking at a slippery slope of Okay, if people 143 00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:13.960 can get all these games on PlayStation, why would you buy an Xbox? 144 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:18.200 And then if there's no reason to buy an Xbox, why would Microsoft make 145 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:20.879 an Xbox? And if there is no Xbox, what happens to all those 146 00:10:20.919 --> 00:10:24.960 digital Xbox games that I bought that that are going to go away? Now, 147 00:10:26.120 --> 00:10:30.279 there's no real reason to believe that that's going to happen other than you 148 00:10:30.320 --> 00:10:31.960 know, kind of following that line of thinking. But this is where a 149 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:37.480 lot of people are a lot of Xbox fans are worried. I wonder how 150 00:10:37.519 --> 00:10:39.759 you guys are feeling about this. There's you know, Phil Spencer said they're 151 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:41.480 going to talk about it next week. Like I said, we don't know 152 00:10:41.519 --> 00:10:45.879 exactly what that's going to look like. It seems like from what I'm what 153 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:48.919 I've heard what other people are saying, they're still not sure what this looks 154 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:52.320 like. They're still having arguments internally about what they want to do with all 155 00:10:52.360 --> 00:10:58.039 of this. That's crazy. That's crazy. It's crazy that there seems to 156 00:10:58.080 --> 00:11:07.919 be this much ambiguity and uncertainty, especially as high as Phil right, So 157 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:13.600 that's odd. But also why not there's no rules anymore? Uh, you 158 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:18.279 know, they're real people with you know, a huge sort of situation on 159 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:20.679 their hands. So yeah, just in terms of that perspective, I think 160 00:11:20.720 --> 00:11:26.039 that is you know, pretty wild for sure, snow Bike Mike, You're 161 00:11:26.080 --> 00:11:31.600 in the Xbox scene in a big way. I'm sure you have heard many 162 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:37.279 people that listen to your shows and other content creators voice concerns. What what 163 00:11:37.399 --> 00:11:41.399 are you worried about? Or are you worried about this at all? Yeah? 164 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:46.320 What are you telling them? You know? Thankfully? Like you got 165 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:50.279 okay? I'm keeping my mouth shut right now. But I have seen everyone 166 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:54.000 from left, right and center, and it is a weird feeling. Right. 167 00:11:54.080 --> 00:11:56.559 There's no official word on this. We truly don't know if it's true, 168 00:11:56.639 --> 00:12:00.120 false, or real, whatever you want to call it, but the 169 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:03.320 rumor seem to be red hot, and it is something where you can easily 170 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:07.559 jump to that slippery slope and go to that conclusion of work, ma'am, 171 00:12:07.639 --> 00:12:09.840 what happens now? What am I supposed to do as the consumer? And 172 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:13.679 I totally feel like all those feelings are valid. Right as crazy as we've 173 00:12:13.720 --> 00:12:16.799 seen on the internet, you can definitely get to that point of like, 174 00:12:18.039 --> 00:12:20.759 man, your boys, Snowbike Mike has put thousands of dollars of his hardened 175 00:12:20.799 --> 00:12:24.799 running into the Xbox ecosystem, and if all of a sudden that was gone, 176 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:28.519 what am I supposed to do, right, Like, that's crazy to 177 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:31.039 think about, but that seems so far away from what a deal is gonna 178 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:33.519 tree. Well it's next week, right, I don't think he's coming out 179 00:12:33.559 --> 00:12:37.120 like, hey, we pulled the plug, y'all, sorry to talk about 180 00:12:37.120 --> 00:12:39.799 it. What do you think you're going to say next week? Like, 181 00:12:39.840 --> 00:12:41.279 what do you what do you think is going to happen? Truly, and 182 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:43.840 honestly, I think Phil will come out and say we are going to start 183 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:48.039 releasing a number of first party titles onto other platforms. Right. We've seen 184 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:52.399 this vision from Xbox. They've talked about the ecosystem and trying to get onto 185 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:56.519 screens and meet players where they're at, right, And so I don't think 186 00:12:56.559 --> 00:13:01.720 it's that crazy to see a future where Xbox first party titles release maybe a 187 00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:05.799 year later, maybe even day and date, available on PlayStation, Nintendo Switch 188 00:13:05.840 --> 00:13:09.519 in other things, right at full price, I, as the Xbox consumer, 189 00:13:09.799 --> 00:13:13.240 still have game Pass, So hopefully that deal still seems enticing to me 190 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:16.039 at fifteen dollars a month. But there is a conversation to be had of 191 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:20.000 if all these games are going to start to go onto PlayStation, should I 192 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:22.720 just be buying a PlayStation and buying that. But I do think we will 193 00:13:22.759 --> 00:13:26.440 see philed next week go hey, we're gonna put first party titles over on 194 00:13:26.519 --> 00:13:33.679 other concerts. How do you think he quells concerns about the slippery slope? 195 00:13:33.960 --> 00:13:37.480 Do you think do you think he like reiterates, hey we are I mean, 196 00:13:37.799 --> 00:13:39.519 I feel like words aren't gonna be enough. But do you think he's 197 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:41.879 gonna come out and say, hey, we're gonna keep making hardware. How 198 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:43.399 do you think he threads that needle? Yeah? I don't know, Jeff. 199 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:46.840 I think that's the difficult part, right because once we start down this 200 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:52.120 slope of first party titles going over there, you have to justify why I 201 00:13:52.200 --> 00:13:54.960 need this box? Right And I think as of right now, if you 202 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:58.159 step away from the box, PlayStation doesn't have much competition, and we start 203 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:01.879 to look at that in an angle. But for me, the justification is 204 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:05.159 the box. Why do I have to buy this box when everybody's moving to 205 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:09.720 PC, people of course love PlayStation for their exclusives. I'm worried that whatever 206 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:13.000 he says, we're going to jump to conclusion no matter what, but it 207 00:14:13.039 --> 00:14:16.759 will be interesting. Can he really look at me and say, hey, 208 00:14:16.879 --> 00:14:20.960 all ABK Games and Bethesda Games. Those are going to other consoles and not 209 00:14:22.159 --> 00:14:26.120 just the first party titles. It's a weird dance that we're gonna play here 210 00:14:26.159 --> 00:14:28.919 that I'm worried no matter what he says. I mean at this point, 211 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:31.519 no matter what Fill and the team say, people are going to jump to 212 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:35.399 their own conclusion and lose their mind. So that's how I feel like we 213 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:39.000 had such a great year in twenty twenty three and we are setting it up 214 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:41.639 to be like, hey, we're moving forward as an Xbox here and this 215 00:14:41.720 --> 00:14:43.639 is gonna be good, and we have just really had a tough start to 216 00:14:43.679 --> 00:14:48.960 twenty twenty four. In that I think it's like, Okay, whatever he 217 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:54.919 says, the thing I'm most interested in is something he probably might not illuminate 218 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:58.639 too much. And that is the fundamental underlying reasons why they are making this 219 00:14:58.759 --> 00:15:03.159 change. Tell me, what is the reality on the ground that is making 220 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:05.879 you think we we have to change things up and we have to start putting 221 00:15:05.919 --> 00:15:09.840 Starfield out on PlayStation. I'll h I said this on Game This Mornings yesterday. 222 00:15:09.879 --> 00:15:16.120 I'll reiterate it reiterated here that that is one hundred percent a change they 223 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:20.919 were just they did they had decided several years ago and up until recently that 224 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:24.600 games like Starfield would be one hundred percent console exclusive to the Xbox what meaning 225 00:15:24.639 --> 00:15:28.080 not coming to PlayStation. So this is a big change. This isn't something 226 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:31.559 that was like always in the cards, are always going to happen. They 227 00:15:31.639 --> 00:15:35.200 changed their mind. What is happening that's causing them to change their mind? 228 00:15:35.720 --> 00:15:39.840 And if we can understand that, we probably would be able to like forecast 229 00:15:39.879 --> 00:15:43.440 out like exactly what this looks like. Are is the reality on the ground 230 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:46.399 so rough that it's like, well, yeah, they actually are thinking about 231 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:50.120 going third party or something like that, or it's just like, hey, 232 00:15:50.039 --> 00:15:52.720 they need a little bit of extra money on top and overall the more money 233 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:58.840 is still coming primarily from Xbox consumers on Xbox hardware. Or if that's not 234 00:15:58.879 --> 00:16:03.000 the case, then really does happen next? It's it's gonna be again. 235 00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:04.320 It's gonna be tough for him to communicate a lot of this stuff, but 236 00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:08.120 I think he's gonna have to be very candid, and I think he's kind 237 00:16:08.120 --> 00:16:12.639 of used up a little bit of his his cachet here in the past where 238 00:16:12.759 --> 00:16:17.879 they've said one thing and then a few months later maybe a year later if 239 00:16:17.919 --> 00:16:21.519 something happens that feels like the polar opposite. So like again, like, 240 00:16:21.720 --> 00:16:25.559 how does he communicate that? I mean, let's take off the fanboy hat 241 00:16:25.600 --> 00:16:27.960 that is always seen on snow bike mic and let's talk real business numbers here. 242 00:16:29.039 --> 00:16:33.720 Right, we're in third place. Your console is being outsold three four 243 00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:36.759 to one by PlayStation and Nintendo Switch. We all know that, right, 244 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:38.919 And we're all about the business. We're all about money. And when you 245 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:42.440 look at it, right, you've seen as much consoles as you could sell. 246 00:16:42.480 --> 00:16:47.399 You're probably starting to slow down on the flip side game pass subscribers. 247 00:16:47.440 --> 00:16:51.679 I'm sure we're not seeing a rocket boost from Starfield and Beyond with these first 248 00:16:51.679 --> 00:16:53.879 party titles. You have to go and meet the players where they're at. 249 00:16:53.879 --> 00:16:59.159 You have to get more eyes on your games. And if that is selling 250 00:16:59.200 --> 00:17:03.720 these games on other platforms and getting that seventy thirty cut of whatever the price 251 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:06.759 is going to be, I think you got to look at and say we're 252 00:17:06.759 --> 00:17:08.720 doing that right. And I'm sure if we're at Microsoft and it's all about 253 00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:12.359 the money, I'm sure that is a business thing. And I think people 254 00:17:14.119 --> 00:17:17.920 you know, got scared on the rumors. But in all honesty, isn't 255 00:17:17.960 --> 00:17:21.559 that what business is all about? Having these hypotheticals, having these conversations. 256 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:25.599 I'm blown away that people wouldn't think that they've had these conversations of well, 257 00:17:25.640 --> 00:17:29.200 what if we did put Halo on another platform? Right, we get micro 258 00:17:29.279 --> 00:17:32.720 transaction dollars, We get them to pay for the price up front on this, 259 00:17:33.119 --> 00:17:36.160 Our studios get more money, our team gets more money than we can 260 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:38.359 continue to do this. So on the business side of things, it makes 261 00:17:38.400 --> 00:17:42.000 total sense. Right, You've probably capped out on the people that are buying 262 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:47.599 xboxes, You've capped out, you know, capped out on game Pass subscribers. 263 00:17:47.640 --> 00:17:51.880 We need more lifeblood into this. I do think that this is the 264 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:56.160 business decision here, and if we're talking business, yeah, this is probably 265 00:17:56.160 --> 00:18:00.880 the right move to do. Yeah. I think it's we are so used 266 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:07.000 to looking at it through the lens of PlayStation versus xbox and sometimes Nintendo in 267 00:18:07.039 --> 00:18:08.680 there, and so like, when we look at it, look at things 268 00:18:08.720 --> 00:18:11.119 through that prism, it's very easy to be like, well, they should 269 00:18:11.160 --> 00:18:15.640 do this to overcome that, and they just aren't really ever looking at it 270 00:18:15.680 --> 00:18:19.440 that way. It is always about we are investing this amount of money into 271 00:18:19.519 --> 00:18:23.279 this initiative and we need this return to make it all make sense. And 272 00:18:23.480 --> 00:18:27.440 if you know X is not equal, Y, we're gonna have to change 273 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:30.640 things. And I think they're at a point where and I just hit the 274 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:33.799 hell out of my microphone. I think we're at a point where they have 275 00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:40.559 exhausted most of the options for them of getting the growth that they need when 276 00:18:40.599 --> 00:18:44.440 it comes to that Xbox versus PlayStation dichotomy. I think that they are now 277 00:18:44.559 --> 00:18:48.400 like, Okay, we have to actually start thinking outside the box and accept 278 00:18:48.759 --> 00:18:52.440 that, Hey, if Starfield couldn't do it, we don't have anything else 279 00:18:52.440 --> 00:18:53.640 that's going to do it. Hey, people are excited about Perfect Dark. 280 00:18:55.000 --> 00:19:00.200 Sure is there any world where Perfect Dark changes the entire landscape? But it 281 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:03.319 gets a bunch of people to come over to Xbox from PlayStation or to get 282 00:19:03.319 --> 00:19:06.839 an Xbox alongside their PlayStation. Probably not. And even if it does, 283 00:19:06.920 --> 00:19:08.680 it's like, well, that's just one game. You're gonna need five games 284 00:19:08.720 --> 00:19:11.559 like that. And we're looking internally and yeah, some of these games are 285 00:19:11.559 --> 00:19:14.640 good, some of them are gonna be great, But to get all of 286 00:19:14.680 --> 00:19:18.480 these games to that point would take so much time, so much money. 287 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:21.160 We're and even if we do all spend all that time and all that money, 288 00:19:21.200 --> 00:19:23.000 there's no guarantee that they're actually gonna come out to be the game of 289 00:19:23.000 --> 00:19:27.960 the Year contenders that we need. So I think they're just broadening their their 290 00:19:29.000 --> 00:19:33.119 base here so that they can have a more risk of friendly environment when they 291 00:19:33.119 --> 00:19:37.440 go forward. And I think they're also trying to leap frog the current battle 292 00:19:37.920 --> 00:19:41.720 because if you like shift over to like what's going on with Sony. Yeah, 293 00:19:41.799 --> 00:19:44.559 Sony's in the lead, They're the selling Xbox, you know, three 294 00:19:44.599 --> 00:19:49.279 to one, it feels like, and they still have a lot of challenges 295 00:19:49.319 --> 00:19:52.680 before them. So it's like, why would Xbox try to get themselves in 296 00:19:52.680 --> 00:19:56.880 the position where it's like, Okay, we're overcoming PlayStation just to be confronted 297 00:19:56.880 --> 00:20:00.160 with a bunch of challenges that really didn't get you out of the muck that 298 00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:03.839 you're in. So I think that that is what is really happening here, 299 00:20:03.880 --> 00:20:07.599 And I just it's hard for people who have been so conditioned to, hey, 300 00:20:07.599 --> 00:20:11.480 consoles are consoles and they work in one way. Now those things are 301 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:14.079 changing, and it's just going to take a minute for people to get used 302 00:20:14.119 --> 00:20:15.559 to that. Cause I think Xbox has been saying this for a while and 303 00:20:15.599 --> 00:20:19.799 now here it is. I think it does. It does shed light on 304 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:26.559 the idea of like you have to not battle the past, right like you 305 00:20:26.599 --> 00:20:33.680 can't you know, to look at like this industry right as this like you 306 00:20:33.720 --> 00:20:38.160 know, console war like from that viewpoint is an antiquated sort of like philosophy, 307 00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:44.200 right, like It's just it doesn't hold any water in twenty twenty four. 308 00:20:44.240 --> 00:20:47.279 And I think like you use this opportunity as a way to kind of 309 00:20:47.319 --> 00:20:51.119 like you know, look a lot of that's water under the bridge now and 310 00:20:51.160 --> 00:20:56.880 like you said, like you have to prepare for what this very rapidly evolving 311 00:20:57.319 --> 00:21:03.039 business is going to possibly ring, right and with that and how fast it 312 00:21:03.160 --> 00:21:08.200 changes to simply like you know, retroactively repair some sort of like console war 313 00:21:08.359 --> 00:21:11.480 thing is not the move. I mean look at the same time, like 314 00:21:11.559 --> 00:21:15.480 you spend seventy billion dollars on acquiring a lot of stuff and things are like, 315 00:21:15.559 --> 00:21:19.119 hey is this are what are what fight are we fighting right now? 316 00:21:19.240 --> 00:21:22.200 Right? Like what are what are what are we exactly doing? So I 317 00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:26.039 think a lot of that comes into the calculus a pointment chat like points out 318 00:21:26.039 --> 00:21:29.319 and them it's a good point, like ps fanboys are gonna be like, 319 00:21:29.319 --> 00:21:33.240 they're gonna pay seventy dollars for Microsoft games on PlayStation that people were getting for 320 00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:36.920 you know, fifty dollars per month on game Pass, and they're gonna be 321 00:21:36.920 --> 00:21:40.279 like, this is a victory. It's like, how is this in any 322 00:21:40.319 --> 00:21:45.000 way a loss for Microsoft by getting people to spend seventy dollars on their games 323 00:21:45.160 --> 00:21:48.440 like that weren't spending money on their games before? It is when you look 324 00:21:48.440 --> 00:21:51.119 at it through that lens, it's hard to see this as anything but an 325 00:21:51.119 --> 00:21:55.720 improvement on the situation that they're currently in. And I think the criticism has 326 00:21:55.880 --> 00:22:00.559 been dated on on their on their business map conations, right, Like the 327 00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:06.000 criticism and the and the analytics have also suffered the same sort of like looking 328 00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:08.960 in the past methodology like without a doubt, right, Like who is it 329 00:22:10.039 --> 00:22:14.039 benefit to stay like that? And I just think, look, obviously, 330 00:22:14.119 --> 00:22:17.880 hands get forced when when rumors start to circulate, and in the sort of 331 00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:21.599 media landscape we all occupy, you have to speak to these things right away 332 00:22:21.920 --> 00:22:25.680 because silence is worse than anything you can do now. Right, So, 333 00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:30.319 uh, you know, maybe all maybe this plan is rolling out ahead of 334 00:22:30.359 --> 00:22:34.200 schedule, but yeah, like there's no way. Microsoft is like scratching its 335 00:22:34.200 --> 00:22:37.920 head, like how do we win the console wars? Right, it's not 336 00:22:37.039 --> 00:22:42.920 that they flat outset I mean they told that to your face right when films 337 00:22:44.000 --> 00:22:45.119 on your show. That's us, yeah, right to you. When he 338 00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:49.640 came on the couch, he basically echoed that again, they are not trying 339 00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:55.200 to win the console war. And I heard that like okay, yeah, 340 00:22:55.240 --> 00:22:57.240 sure you say that. But and then like it took a long time, 341 00:22:57.400 --> 00:23:00.079 like a couple of months of like hearing that over and over and ringing around 342 00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:03.400 in my head to realize, oh, they're telling the truth and that we're 343 00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:07.160 going to see that reflected and their choices going forward here pretty soon. Because 344 00:23:07.160 --> 00:23:11.240 you can't be like, well, we're not fighting the console war anymore and 345 00:23:11.279 --> 00:23:14.279 then keep doing things the same exact way. Obviously, they have to look 346 00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:18.240 toward a future where things are different, and it does feel like we are 347 00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:21.839 in a situation where things will be different. I don't think consoles are going 348 00:23:21.880 --> 00:23:25.400 to go away, like that's that's not happening, even for Xbox. I 349 00:23:25.400 --> 00:23:30.039 don't think consoles are going away, but kind of getting your position your stuff 350 00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:33.240 in a future where Xbox can be this thing that is more malleable and more 351 00:23:33.559 --> 00:23:37.400 portable and ready to go when there is a new opportunity for hardware to show 352 00:23:37.480 --> 00:23:42.000 up on If you know, like suddenly TVs start shipping within Xbox os or 353 00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:45.759 something like that, it's probably not gonna have something like that won't happen, 354 00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:52.039 but something along those lines that could very quickly change things. But right as 355 00:23:52.079 --> 00:23:53.720 it stands, right now, if Xbox continues doing things the way that they 356 00:23:53.720 --> 00:23:57.039 had been, that is not necessarily an opportunity they would be able to latch 357 00:23:57.079 --> 00:24:00.880 onto very quickly. They would be too slow. They're kind of forcing themselves 358 00:24:00.920 --> 00:24:04.079 into a situation where they have to think creatively about how they can get growth 359 00:24:04.119 --> 00:24:07.319 out of what they have. Now, where do we go next week? 360 00:24:07.400 --> 00:24:10.359 Jeff, you know, you ask me, what do you think? He 361 00:24:10.440 --> 00:24:11.920 says. We look at this and we kind of know, you know, 362 00:24:11.960 --> 00:24:15.720 we've heard them in the past say, you know, we're battling against the 363 00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:18.400 Googles and the Amazons, not the Nintendo's in the PlayStations. That's why we 364 00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:22.720 are going after the Abks and the Bethesda's, because we don't want them to 365 00:24:22.720 --> 00:24:26.119 be swooped up by others. You know, we look at this cloud streaming 366 00:24:26.240 --> 00:24:30.200 world. Is there a world where he says, hey, you know, 367 00:24:30.319 --> 00:24:33.359 game passes everywhere now we've worked it out with people, even like that sounds 368 00:24:33.359 --> 00:24:37.039 like an insane thing, right, because there's so many games on that third 369 00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:40.279 party wise that we'd have to talk about. But is there a word where 370 00:24:40.279 --> 00:24:42.039 he goes, hey, we got the puck and we're just selling the puck. 371 00:24:42.079 --> 00:24:45.079 Now, this is where you're gonna be. You can stream it, 372 00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:48.359 you can do this, but like, we're not doing that anymore with the 373 00:24:48.359 --> 00:24:51.680 console you got back. Are very excited because you said the word puck a 374 00:24:51.680 --> 00:24:57.119 couple of times. It was awesome. Now listen, I think that thing. 375 00:24:57.240 --> 00:25:00.640 He's going to spend a lot of the time time during this business update 376 00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:04.759 reassuring people that the way that they like join like purchasing games, the way 377 00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:10.200 they like enjoying games today will continue working for a very long time into the 378 00:25:10.279 --> 00:25:15.279 future. And that's going to primarily mean silicon in a box under your TV 379 00:25:15.599 --> 00:25:18.440 that runs the games locally they know. I mean, hey, if the 380 00:25:18.559 --> 00:25:23.279 Xbox Series X only ends up selling thirty million units throughout its lifetime, that's 381 00:25:23.319 --> 00:25:26.400 like better than the GameCube. That's a lot that's better than probably most other 382 00:25:26.440 --> 00:25:30.440 Microsoft hardware initiatives. That's still something that you can work with. It just 383 00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:34.599 can't be your only pillar. And I think that them trying to get that 384 00:25:34.680 --> 00:25:38.599 idea across will be difficult. But I think that they're not going to come 385 00:25:38.599 --> 00:25:41.920 into this be like, well, we're giving up what we have to go 386 00:25:41.960 --> 00:25:44.960 get something new. We're going to try to keep as much as we as 387 00:25:44.960 --> 00:25:48.640 we do have, and we know that that is going to disincentivize some of 388 00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:51.279 you for wanting to buy hardware. But as long as you keep buying our 389 00:25:51.319 --> 00:25:53.880 games, we promise we're okay with that. That's another thing that they've been 390 00:25:53.920 --> 00:25:56.799 saying for a very long time as well, and I think it's we're now 391 00:25:56.839 --> 00:26:02.720 getting to the manifestation of what that actually looks like. Yeah, I mean. 392 00:26:02.759 --> 00:26:04.640 At the same time, Phil has also said that game Pass is just 393 00:26:04.680 --> 00:26:08.319 supplemental. We know that people are buying games still that is where the market 394 00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:11.319 is, and putting it on PlayStation, putting it on Nintendo. If that 395 00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:15.440 happens, I think it's only a positive on the business side of things. 396 00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:17.880 They can still look at you and say, well, we sell the box, 397 00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:19.519 you can play it in the cloud or if you got a big PC 398 00:26:19.720 --> 00:26:23.200 rig. You can get game pass still and not have to spend that seventy 399 00:26:23.240 --> 00:26:26.839 dollars right off the rip, and there you go. That's our business market 400 00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:30.839 now, and it seems like that might be I think that is the plan. 401 00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:33.720 That is what we're living in. You have the console, you have 402 00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:37.440 the ecosystem, and you can get it all for fifteen dollars a month. 403 00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:41.880 That's a great deal being Bata Boom you can play this or Hey, if 404 00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:45.200 you're a PlayStation fan, you love those great exclusives they got over there, 405 00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:48.519 you like that hardware, that ecosystem. You can buy all of this for 406 00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:52.400 seventy bucks or whatever that price is going to be. That makes business sense 407 00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:55.039 to me. That would be something I would walk into the boardroom and say, 408 00:26:55.240 --> 00:26:57.799 Hey, Starfield didn't sell that well, or we capped out on what 409 00:26:57.839 --> 00:27:02.440 we sold here for Starfield. Let's go to other consoles with these games that 410 00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:06.359 we got in Indiana. Jones big name that's gotta go. Right, you 411 00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:08.680 look at Starfield, that's a big name. That's gotta go. Blade. 412 00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:11.720 We talked about Blade and how everybody was like, hey, kind of weird. 413 00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:15.160 Didn't put game pass at the end of that, right, anything Marvel 414 00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:18.839 related. Guess what, we can make a lot of money off of that. 415 00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:21.559 So that's got to go to And you know, we live in a 416 00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:25.319 world that's all about constantly online, trying to take as much time as you 417 00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:29.000 got out of your day, trying to keep your attention get into your wallet 418 00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:33.519 through micro transactions. Halo Infinite probably would have done a lot better than it 419 00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:36.359 did if that was on a whole lot of platforms. And I know here 420 00:27:36.359 --> 00:27:38.680 an Xbox fan say that is insane to think, but we live in a 421 00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:42.359 world where it's all about being everywhere. We live in a Fortnite world now, 422 00:27:42.359 --> 00:27:47.000 and everybody wants to chase Fortnite, truly and honestly, and so that's 423 00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:49.480 probably what Halo and more games should have done. Yeah, I don't think 424 00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:53.519 there's any guarantee that this Xbox strategy is going to work, but there is 425 00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:56.839 a chance it does work, and there's I think there's a smaller chance but 426 00:27:56.880 --> 00:28:02.200 still a significant one that we look back ten years from now and be like, 427 00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:04.720 Wow, Microsoft got way ahead of the curve here, because what is 428 00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:08.039 PlayStation doing. They're spent there, got ten twelve live service games, the 429 00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:11.000 and the that they're trying to make and they're gonna probably launch them on PC 430 00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:15.519 day and date, but PlayStation PC day and date, and we're gonna look 431 00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:18.720 a like Manda if you were on Xbox and mobile and everywhere on day one, 432 00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:21.759 ready to go. And I think that's what Mi Microsoft is exactly trying 433 00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:25.240 to start right now. And I think this also gets them the momentum they 434 00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:30.079 need to eventually win that conversation at the negotiation table when they try to get 435 00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:33.880 game Pass onto PlayStation. You know, we do know that that will have 436 00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:37.160 to look differently right at the third party games. But if people are, 437 00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:40.079 you know, buying these Xbox games on PlayStation, and then you know, 438 00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:42.839 they build up a good relationship with Sony overtime. You know, Jim Ryan's 439 00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:47.039 leaving. Jim Ryan was very competitive. Who knows, maybe the new leadership 440 00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:48.759 is a little bit softer on that, and it will It would take a 441 00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:52.759 couple of years, but maybe they can kind of get this in a situation 442 00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:53.960 where it's say, hey, we're all gonna make more money, right, 443 00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:56.039 let's just let's just all work together. What do you what do we need 444 00:28:56.079 --> 00:29:00.160 to make this happen. It can't start with game Pass on PlayStation. It 445 00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:03.319 has to start with, Yeah, we'll sell Starfield on there, and of 446 00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:04.880 course we're gonna keep selling Call of Duty on there, and you know what, 447 00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:08.599 here's Halo. We just don't believe we're in that fight anymore. We 448 00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:11.440 know what, We're trying to get attention, just like you, and you're 449 00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:14.640 gonna get thirty percent of everything we sell on your platform. Let's get game 450 00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:18.079 Pass on there. And I think that this conversation continues probably to frighten Xbox 451 00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:22.640 fans who want their hardware, But I just don't think that any of that 452 00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:26.759 means that the hardware goes away. I also think, you know, maybe 453 00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:30.759 I'm a little sort of like antiquated with this thing. I bring up a 454 00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:36.720 lot, but like, would you agree that even now, they have still 455 00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:41.880 yet to like fully bridge the gap between the fact that you know, PC 456 00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:47.960 gaming is ninety nine percent a Windows product also yeah, a Microsoft product also, 457 00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:49.839 right, Like, I feel like that's the thing that everyone just sort 458 00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:53.440 of knows in the back of their mind, but they've not really just made 459 00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:59.000 it actualize it in a way that is tangible, right, Like, Yeah, 460 00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:02.440 you could argue with like all the game Pass ultimate has bridged the gap 461 00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:06.279 a little bit, but like there still seems to be a little bit more 462 00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:08.279 juice to squeeze out of that. I have a conspiracy theory about that, 463 00:30:08.440 --> 00:30:14.319 oh hear it. I think that part of what's happening now and again conspiracy 464 00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:17.319 theory. This this is just like random thoughts occurring to me in the middle 465 00:30:17.319 --> 00:30:22.160 of the night. So some conspiracy theory is based in like it's based in 466 00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:25.440 a Colorado night. Baby, let's go. I just want to be clear, 467 00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:30.680 right because that word, yeah, it's it's just me like you maybe 468 00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:33.000 fantasy booking a little bit. I think one of the reasons that they might 469 00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:38.039 be doing this is they are they spot an opportunity that is probably about ten 470 00:30:38.119 --> 00:30:44.839 years out, and that opportunity is Gabe newele retiring and Steam going up for 471 00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:49.880 sale and whether or going public and Microsoft stepping in and being ready to go 472 00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:55.200 to pick that up. Now that is I know, people are immediately gonna 473 00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:57.119 be like, hey, anti trust all this other stuff, and you're absolutely 474 00:30:57.200 --> 00:31:00.359 right, Yeah, what about operating systems on computers? They seem to be 475 00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:03.319 able to go around that pretty well, like right, and also like you 476 00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:06.720 know, we don't we don't know what the political landscape is going to be 477 00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:08.359 like at any time, at any point in time, they could very easily 478 00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:14.920 find themselves in a very monopoly friendly environment that would approve that without any issue. 479 00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:18.279 Lena Khan is not going to be there forever, and I don't necessarily 480 00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:19.759 think that that would be great for the industry, but I do think that 481 00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:23.000 there is a part of them. It's like we have our eye on Steam. 482 00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:26.279 That's a privately held company. It will not be that way forever. 483 00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:30.480 Like Gabe Nole's not that I'm probably not going to pass that on to his 484 00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:36.480 kids. So because he have kids, has his knives. Yeah, there 485 00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:38.440 we go, we got there. It is, so I think that that 486 00:31:38.599 --> 00:31:41.839 is like them, Like, Okay, let's kind of put ourselves in a 487 00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:45.640 situation where we are. We have a lot of games everywhere, and when 488 00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:48.920 we're ready to when Steam is at a point where we can jump in, 489 00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:52.039 We're ready to go because we're the company that makes the most sense to take 490 00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:55.400 it over. Uh, we'll see again ten years out. That's very hard 491 00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:59.160 to plan. But yeah, conspiracy theory, like I said, yeah, 492 00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:04.559 no, I'm comfortab labeling that. I thank you absolutely, this might makes 493 00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:07.599 some fucking sense. And then uh no, yeah, who knows. I 494 00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:10.759 guess my question to you is if if I'm attempting to like join you in 495 00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:15.160 this, you know, theater of your mind, right, Like, why 496 00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:21.359 would Gabe going away automatically result in like this valve for sale? Well, 497 00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:23.480 I mean it's a privately held company. I mean it's not it's not publicly 498 00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:27.599 owned, So sure, I think that he was Probably it would be like 499 00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:30.480 when George Lucas retired from Star Wars, kind of similar that. Oh, 500 00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:34.079 okay, okay, it would be very I think it would be very similar 501 00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:36.079 where it's like, Okay, I want to make sure that this kind of 502 00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:38.640 gets into the hands where it can continue. Now. I think Gabe Noel 503 00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:42.680 has a you know, sortid history back and forth with Microsoft. I think 504 00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:45.200 sometimes he feels very good about them, and sometimes I think when he left 505 00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:46.920 the company he wasn't feeling too great about him. But it seems like they 506 00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:52.839 have a decent relationship now, and I don't know. I think Microsoft would 507 00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:54.519 try to position themselves and say, hey, we can take care of this 508 00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:57.720 and make sure it can be everything it needs to be and will you know, 509 00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:02.079 maintain your way of doing things and all that stuff. But it's Microsoft 510 00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:07.440 wanting to do this and kind of like maybe thinking about that long term doesn't 511 00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:09.079 mean it will happen, doesn't mean game Newel will do it, but I 512 00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:12.880 think they think it's a possibility. Jeseu, I'm sorry, I brought up 513 00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:17.759 the whole p seasoning Listen. I got a bunch of conspiracy theories. You 514 00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:22.000 guys really want to go. Let's one more, one more, Let's hear 515 00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:24.359 one more thing. It's it's about steel beams. You don't want to hear 516 00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:30.200 that one? You don't, Okay? Yeah, sorry guys. Jeff, 517 00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:34.400 you talked about softening the blow for Xbox players next week? Right, is 518 00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:37.400 there a world where we maybe speed up this ab k, you know, 519 00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:42.519 hold off that we've been sitting in and he can share with us, maybe 520 00:33:42.599 --> 00:33:45.839 some game pass announcements or maybe something is coming our way, because I think, 521 00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:49.319 like you said, the Xbox fans are gonna be up in arms. 522 00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:52.960 They have been all week and beyond. You know, how do you soften 523 00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:54.920 this blow? Is it something like, hey, we got these games finally 524 00:33:54.920 --> 00:33:58.480 on game passes, Slip that into maybe, you know, give me a 525 00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:00.119 little bit of a cookie with this ship sandwich. What do you think we're 526 00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:04.039 going to see? Yeah? I think they probably have to have something like 527 00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:07.200 that, ready to go. They are their hands are tied a little bit 528 00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:09.920 with Call of Duty, right, All the contracts involved with with Sony is 529 00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:12.840 going to limit what they're going to be able to do with Call of Duty 530 00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:16.320 specifically, maybe even for legacy games. Maybe not for legacy games. We'll 531 00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:20.599 we'll find out. But I yeah, I think if they have something cooking, 532 00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:24.119 they should present it alongside all of this and say, hey, this 533 00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:28.280 is how dedicated we are. We made all these moves because we believe in 534 00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:31.519 Xbox. The argument that they just spent sixty nine million dollars so we're in 535 00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:36.119 this for the long haul is actually very convincing. They just need to put 536 00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:38.159 a little bit of that on display. To your point, snow Buck Mike, 537 00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:42.320 I think that's just something that needs to be seen by people a little 538 00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:45.280 bit to remind them, oh, yeah, they spend all that money, 539 00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:49.320 They're not like going to go away. Things just might look different and we're 540 00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:51.800 willing to buy that now that we're seeing, Okay, this is what we're 541 00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:52.719 going to get out of it. So yeah, I think that's a strong 542 00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:58.199 possibility. Also, like doctor Mike in the Twitch Shadow want to call out, 543 00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:00.800 so there's a lot of cheerleading going on here. Know, we put 544 00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:02.719 our business hats on and we go, m that would make money. I 545 00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:07.760 like this right, But let's go from an Xbox fan boys Jeff jen Actually, 546 00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:12.519 I want to hear from you Xbox fanboy over there. Give me, 547 00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:16.360 give me negativity, give me the give me the hate on why this cannot 548 00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:21.199 happen? What is that hard line of like this can't happen at all? 549 00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:23.519 I think it's a you know, you talked about this at the tippy top 550 00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:28.960 here, Uh, you invest so much time in a specific platform, only 551 00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:31.280 for the rug to get swept underneath you of like, well where did all 552 00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:36.639 that money go? But I think the realization there is like just because those 553 00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:39.519 games are somewhere else doesn't mean you don't have those games anymore. Like I 554 00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:44.400 don't know, or at least I'm not tuned into the PlayStation fanboy talk. 555 00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:47.800 If there is that talk or outrage, they're they're dancing on graves. No 556 00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:52.280 no, no, no, specifically that outrage of like oh, Horizons on 557 00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:54.239 a PC, Spider Man's on a PC. Like, I don't know, 558 00:35:55.159 --> 00:36:00.159 is that outrage equal to it happened at the time, but it's dissipated it's 559 00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:06.199 gone away. Mostly. Yeah, the thing is, I feel like Xbox 560 00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:10.760 with Game Pass specifically is set the tone that I would I don't want to 561 00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:15.280 say I want other companies to follow it, but it's just like it's an 562 00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:19.239 amazing deal. But also stuff like, you know, I've kind of gone 563 00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:22.039 accustomed to how an Xbox controller feels in my hand rather than a dual sense. 564 00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:28.119 Remember that exactly, first time I held a three sixty controller, I'm 565 00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:30.360 like, Wow, this is perfect, and then like I had to go 566 00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:34.480 back to a PS three, a PS four controller, I'm like, it's 567 00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:36.840 a little hard. Guys. I knew I grew up with a PS one. 568 00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:39.320 I knew that I learned how to use analog sticks because of Ape Escape. 569 00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:44.280 I like when they're you know, let's flip the dpad PlayStation, let's 570 00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:49.719 do that. But I don't know, I know the other thing that I 571 00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:52.880 just can't take fanboy seriously, No, I just don't know. Yeah, 572 00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:54.639 of course, Jeff, But like, you know, is there an argument 573 00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:58.440 to be made of like, hey, we didn't see these three right, 574 00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:01.559 we talked about these acquisitions in two and now of like, hey we didn't 575 00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:05.599 give them time, right, We never got to the point we're pretty much 576 00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:08.559 hitting that point now of like, now the teams are making first party exclusive 577 00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:14.119 content that is justifying us owning the box that has the exclusives, Like you 578 00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:16.159 know, we're just gonna always compare the PlayStation of Hey, this is the 579 00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:19.760 reason why I'm buying the box. This is why you don't have it. 580 00:37:19.960 --> 00:37:22.920 This is why we got it. You got to come over here and spend 581 00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:24.960 that money. And we never got to that point. We seem to be 582 00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:30.039 like right here at almost the finish line where it's about to begin, and 583 00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:32.960 we're gonna hit this cadence of shooting that off and going and I guess as 584 00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:36.880 a fanboy, right, you look at it and go, we were almost 585 00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:39.119 there. Why did you now pull the plug on that? Right? And 586 00:37:39.159 --> 00:37:44.800 it doesn't seem like that's a smart business move of you give us five to 587 00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:47.480 ten more years, and that's when Xbox will be cooking. That's when people 588 00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:51.760 will be forced to buy the Xbox. They'll come to the ecosystem. We're 589 00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:54.360 gonna have all these great games. That's how it feels like it is on 590 00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:57.840 the fanboy side, right. We've talked about the business side, but on 591 00:37:57.880 --> 00:38:00.239 the fanboy side, it seems like we just ever got to that moment, 592 00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:05.000 and you're giving up before we get to it. Yeah, I kind of 593 00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:07.039 see that, And then it's it's sparking a conspiracy theory that's been brewing. 594 00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:16.760 While okay, maybe not a conspiracy theory, but a conspiracy uh uh a 595 00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:24.199 view, I guess of. I see Microsoft and Xbox in a in the 596 00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:29.280 position that Sega was in, except this is by choice, right. Sega 597 00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:32.320 had to stop making consoles because it just was not favorable, had to become 598 00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:37.840 a publisher, spread the love everywhere, and that that way. Microsoft is 599 00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:40.639 doing the same thing, but by choice, to spread the love and make 600 00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:45.639 make the money that way, versus being forced into a position. And like, 601 00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:49.320 all right, yes, we admit we're being outsold consoles and everything, 602 00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:52.880 but we're just gonna we're gonna lean into that. We're gonna lean all the 603 00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:54.599 way in. We're gonna be on your TVs, We're gonna be on your 604 00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:58.440 switch, we're gonna be on your PS five, We're gonna be on phones 605 00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:01.840 again soon. You know, like that is a mildly appealing thing to be 606 00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:08.480 able to open up game Pass on my phone. I think, you know, 607 00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:10.599 I'm gonna go back to mix point a second here, But what you 608 00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:14.280 were saying Jen that like they are doing this out of choice. I think 609 00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:17.840 that's a little bit true. I think it's them recognizing that. And this 610 00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:22.000 is gonna sound like the Xbox tax argument. The fanboys were having a little 611 00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:23.519 bit of go. But I do think that they look at the uphill climb 612 00:39:23.559 --> 00:39:25.599 and they see it's a little bit steeper for them, And I think that 613 00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:29.119 there is evidence for that. You go back to like when they did get 614 00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:34.400 the tomb Raider exclusivity and people didn't get excited. They just got mad at 615 00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:36.000 them and they're like, well, I'm just not gonna buy that game. 616 00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:37.239 I'm gonna wait and get it because you took it away from me. That 617 00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:42.480 didn't get people to switch over to Xbox. People don't switch platforms like on 618 00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:45.400 PC where the store is free to download to get free games. So I 619 00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:52.599 think the Xbox has learned over time that their efforts in terms of producing exclusives 620 00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:55.360 only goes so far before it just like people are like, get mad about 621 00:39:55.360 --> 00:39:59.639 it, and it makes them more entrenched in the platform that they've already chosen 622 00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:01.880 not be an Xbox. And I think this does speak back to your point 623 00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:07.280 Mike about like these studios, those acquisitions from twenty eighteen, though that early 624 00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:10.079 round, they didn't even really get a chance to put out games to make 625 00:40:10.119 --> 00:40:14.199 a difference. We should wait until that happens before we start making drastic changes 626 00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:19.280 to Xbox. I would say that that what's probably happened is Microsoft has looked 627 00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:22.400 internally at those games and like, none of this is going to change our 628 00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:23.920 fortunes. Some of these games are very good, none of them are going 629 00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:27.000 to change our fortunes. And I think if you look back at like some 630 00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:30.559 of the games that did come out, like yeah, they made these acquisitions 631 00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:34.559 and then Death Loop and Ghost Bartokyo were PlayStation exclusives. Let's say that those 632 00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:37.360 were Xbox exclusives. Would that have changed ay thing? No way, no 633 00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:42.159 way. So I think that they are looking like Starfield couldn't do it, 634 00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:44.639 nothing's going to do it. I think that's where they're at. Quick question 635 00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:49.280 for y'all, do you if if we see this future where Microsoft is publishing 636 00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:53.960 games on PlayStation regularly, does this kind of change the type of games that 637 00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:58.880 they're putting out, Because I don't immediately equate someone that is buying a PS 638 00:40:58.920 --> 00:41:02.280 five to play something like got a War or Horizon to be the same person 639 00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:07.840 that's picking up Halo or Gears of War? Do you get Microsoft kind of 640 00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:14.880 trying to go for that triple a big budget single player experience, like Sony 641 00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:21.960 has been kind of crafting their audience to become that years ago? What was 642 00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:23.519 that? What'd you say, Jan Or would you say? Jeff? No? 643 00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:27.079 I said, I don't think that changes that much? Like you just 644 00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:30.880 you know the is your is your question? Like? Do they change who 645 00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:34.840 they are? What audience they are trying to reach? Is that what you're 646 00:41:34.880 --> 00:41:37.400 saying? Yeah? Like they they they broad in the appeal of like all 647 00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:42.960 right, we've been trying to do multiplayer shooters for forever. Now let's let's 648 00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:46.039 pull it. Uh, since we're gonna be on Sony platforms, let's make 649 00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:51.800 the games that already appeal to that audience. Uh. I don't. I 650 00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:54.360 don't like, on its face, I don't necessarily think so. I think, 651 00:41:55.960 --> 00:42:00.519 you know, I think as it's played out the last half decade, 652 00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:04.639 like, it's really hard to make a game that's awesome. Yeah, it's 653 00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:07.360 very hard to make a game that's especially one of those big budget games. 654 00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:08.639 Yeah, like make it's hard to make a game, full stop. It's 655 00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:13.320 hard to make an amazing game. Yes, Microsoft could have been making those 656 00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:17.039 single player over the shoulders sad Dad games that that cost two hundred fifty million 657 00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:20.880 dollars and make them at a quality level that they would need to be to 658 00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:23.119 sell well enough to justify them. They would have done it already. It 659 00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:27.880 is something that's very hard to do. So I don't think this change is 660 00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:30.639 in suddenly going to mean like's that they're gonna make. There's gonna be a 661 00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:32.719 ton of those because now they have access to the PlayStation audience. There probably 662 00:42:32.760 --> 00:42:36.880 will be a couple of those. I think there probably are some that's already 663 00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:40.280 in the works. But I think Microsoft is very happy not to be in 664 00:42:40.280 --> 00:42:44.480 the business of having to make though every one of their games like one of 665 00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:46.920 those games, which is kind of where PlayStation's at. That's one of the 666 00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:51.480 we go back to the challenges PlayStations facing. That is a challenge for them 667 00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:54.400 actually that they've put themselves in themselves in this corner where their games need to 668 00:42:54.400 --> 00:42:59.400 be of a certain budget level to even register with their fans anymore, and 669 00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:01.519 Microsoft trying to keep a little bit more like, hey, we can put 670 00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:06.559 out anything. The problem is, like you know, pentiments just not registering 671 00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:09.360 the way like some of these other games do. And so yeah, there's 672 00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:13.480 these dalliances are great, but I think they're like, Okay, can we 673 00:43:13.599 --> 00:43:15.239 find a middle ground where we put a ton of games that are very different? 674 00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:19.280 Microsoft's going to keep going in that direction. Yeah, They've They've been 675 00:43:19.320 --> 00:43:22.880 different companies for a very long time. I mean, so you know, 676 00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:29.280 I think if anything, it affords Microsoft a bit of flexibility, then maybe 677 00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:31.719 they felt they didn't have, you know, two years ago. Okay, 678 00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:37.159 Okay, so we all agree that World of Warcraft is just going to be 679 00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:42.039 on game Pass next week. Yeah, yeah, it's real that that subscription 680 00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:45.599 better going game Pass because I'm sick of paying fifteen dollars for that monthly. 681 00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:49.119 Plus my game helped me out. Phil Spencer's wait, well you play World 682 00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:52.559 of Warcraft too? Yeah, dude, I'm a wow boy. Wow. 683 00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:58.519 I know that I didn't know that. My whole life is like a dragon 684 00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:00.519 right now. You say I'm a wow boy makes me think you're a soujiman 685 00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:07.079 called wowboy. I'm just gonna like just it pops up wowboy like asshole does 686 00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:10.360 in like a dragon. Gotten good? Stuff. All right, we got 687 00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:15.400 some other news to get to, including Nintendo financials. Nintendo did very well 688 00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:20.039 over the holiday sales a period in the ninth In the nine months ending at 689 00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:22.239 December twenty twenty three, it reported growth in both sales and net profit, 690 00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:28.000 possibly due to Switch, his final Christmas season before it's successful successors anticipated release 691 00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:31.599 later this year. Despite declines in hardware and software sales, it had much 692 00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:36.199 better profits, So it's making more money from things that probably cost less for 693 00:44:36.239 --> 00:44:42.960 it to produce. Some highlights. Mario card Eate is at sixty million it 694 00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:46.400 sold. It sold three point five million in the last quarter alone, which 695 00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:52.800 which is more than most games ever sell. That's just crazy. The game's 696 00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:55.079 been out for what seven years, and it's a port of an older game, 697 00:44:55.199 --> 00:44:58.960 so it's the same age as my kid. What the fuck is the 698 00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:02.639 name? Oh? How is that possible? What is happening? Uh? 699 00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:07.719 In terms of like the like hardware they sold, let's see about I have 700 00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:10.440 the numbers here for how much the swo Okay, the Switch is at one 701 00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:15.960 hundred and thirty nine million units sold total. That puts it about about fifteen 702 00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:20.960 million off the pace of the game of the ds I believe and the PlayStation 703 00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:23.800 two. Uh we we we only have a limited amount of more time with 704 00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:28.079 Snowbike Mic. But Mike, I want to get your take and what your 705 00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:32.199 opinion is. Maybe your conspiracy theories are on what the switch successor might look 706 00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:37.840 like. Now I've pitched to the crew here jokingly. Uh, you know, 707 00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:39.679 let's go back to two screens. Let's get a let's get a sandwich 708 00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:46.239 joint going no, all right, no right, no, no, no, 709 00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:52.800 backler. Remember my other conspiracy theory of Nintendo's gonna make a wearable They're 710 00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:55.440 gonna they're gonna have a watch that goes with their mentality sensors back, baby, 711 00:45:55.480 --> 00:46:01.320 At least that's lighthearted, you know, Like it's not something that's like 712 00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:07.679 really somber and scary like two screens that way, like it's macabre. It's 713 00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:12.000 like you're just remembering Hotel Dusk, very very negative. That's true. Yeah, 714 00:46:12.039 --> 00:46:14.920 I mean I have great memories of that game. I just uh, 715 00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:19.199 we're just not going back to that clamshell situation. We're just not. But 716 00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:22.920 Mike, where where does your thought train go? Well? As someone who 717 00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:25.039 has bought a lot of joy cons in his day, I'm really hoping that 718 00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:29.519 it's the exact same thing that I can slap these joy Cons on. You 719 00:46:29.559 --> 00:46:32.039 know, just give me a better screen and a better processor up in this 720 00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:35.719 thing. Uh yeah, I don't know. I don't know where my mind 721 00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:38.360 goes on this. I'm not the biggest Nintendo guy. I enjoy the games. 722 00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:44.119 I am amazed when I always see these numbers, just the stranglehold that 723 00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:47.000 they have on the video game landscape and how awesome the games can be, 724 00:46:47.039 --> 00:46:52.239 and how many audiences it speaks to, right from kids to adults everywhere in 725 00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:54.760 between, Like they just get it and they do it. But man, 726 00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:59.719 oh man, when you play that thing and it's not a first party game, 727 00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:04.840 you go, dang, this thing is old and it's I need something 728 00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:08.119 better. So for me, I love the versatility. I want the Switch 729 00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:12.440 to stay the same R and I want the Switch version two to be able 730 00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:15.360 to sit down on my couch and plug it into the TV, pull it 731 00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:17.679 out and go on the go. I think what they did with that this 732 00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:22.679 generation was amazing. I love the idea of the joy Cons being able to 733 00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:24.840 be pulled off and you can pass them to a friend. That is cute, 734 00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:29.039 that's novel, that's smart as well. If I was a kid back 735 00:47:29.039 --> 00:47:30.199 in the day and we were at the lunch room, all three of us 736 00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:32.840 together, and I was able to pull those off and we could just play 737 00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:37.360 them right there. That's the radest thing around, right. It is smart 738 00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:39.559 on the business side, And so really, all I'm hoping for is a 739 00:47:39.639 --> 00:47:44.719 beefier, maybe chunkier switch version two point oh, similar to what I got 740 00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:46.800 with the Steam Deck. I would like them to do that. So that 741 00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:51.119 is my hope. That's my conspiracy, is that it stays the same, 742 00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:53.719 just upgraded hardware and you can use your joy Come, let's get chunky. 743 00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:57.480 Let's get chunky with it. Yeah? Why not chunk here? It could 744 00:47:57.519 --> 00:48:00.280 put on some pounds and I'm putting I win to wait right now, you 745 00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:04.719 know? Yeah? Bare so yeah, hold on to me. Yeah, 746 00:48:04.719 --> 00:48:07.079 I got I got a bigger battery than ever. I want my next switch 747 00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:09.000 to to have a bigger battery than ever. Were you go? Am I 748 00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:14.159 the only one who's deeply uncomfortable with just how this thing still sits in its 749 00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:19.519 dock? Like? Am I the only who's just like every time I still 750 00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:22.920 slide my switch in my dock, I'm just like, this feels bad. 751 00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:25.480 This should be a better You never liked inserting your card into card readers, 752 00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:29.519 did you, backl are? No, at least you get that like spring 753 00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:31.880 click action where like the switch is just sort of like it's docking in a 754 00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:36.119 way that just doesn't feel comfortable. And do you know, like what's actually 755 00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:39.599 happening is like there's like two little switches in the switch dock for lack a 756 00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:44.360 better term, that once you put it down, it actually pushes the USB 757 00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:50.480 like a latch up so that it doesn't it can't an avatar people drift, 758 00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:55.000 right, or when a dog gets lipstick. Yeah, exactly all right, 759 00:48:55.639 --> 00:49:00.840 and on that wait, wait time out, wait time out? For real, 760 00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:06.679 I need a cross section of a dock of a switch doocking like, 761 00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:10.280 OK, you're telling me there's like little prongs that expose its port. Yes, 762 00:49:12.760 --> 00:49:15.320 it's just filthy. I take it all back. I take it all 763 00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:19.679 back. That rules. We're gonna go in and during a break with like 764 00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:22.840 Tweezers and just like push it and see what I'm gonna take. I'm gonna 765 00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:27.920 take TAM's ear cavity camera and get some up close uh uh picture of like 766 00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:30.360 that thing happening. I need to see it. Well, one last thing 767 00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:34.079 before we get snow bike Mic out of here. Uh, the Nintendo does 768 00:49:34.119 --> 00:49:38.159 say that it's current and ongoing. Main business is the Nintendo Switch. They 769 00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:43.159 did not bring up the switch to during this financial report. They are still 770 00:49:43.159 --> 00:49:45.719 being very coy about it. I just want to get everyone's answer real quick. 771 00:49:46.119 --> 00:49:50.800 Do you think after hearing this that when we get a Nintendo Direct, 772 00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:52.920 whether it's you know, this week, next week, or whenever, that 773 00:49:53.000 --> 00:49:55.679 they will mention a switch to Like after hearing that, do you think it's 774 00:49:55.719 --> 00:50:00.039 more or less likely a snow bike Mike? What do you think? No? 775 00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:04.239 I do not think that we will see one at this next Nintendo Direct. 776 00:50:04.239 --> 00:50:07.480 I think it is imminent, but I don't think it's up next. 777 00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:10.440 The focus is still on the hardware currently, the switch, and the games 778 00:50:10.440 --> 00:50:13.760 they have for it. So for me, I don't expect us coming out 779 00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:15.719 of the next one going get ready here it comes. I don't think we'll 780 00:50:15.719 --> 00:50:19.199 be at that point. Yeah. I think I'm in just the same boat. 781 00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:22.880 I think they're going to take their victory lap with whatever next direct they're 782 00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:27.599 taking, and then after that that's them sunsetting the current switch and then moving 783 00:50:27.639 --> 00:50:30.960 on to whatever wat like that they're doing. I like the way you phrase 784 00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:34.800 that. I think that's right. Yeah, I think they carve out something 785 00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:37.400 in twenty four to talk about switch to totally. Yeah, but like but 786 00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:39.599 like you know, the rumors are still there could be a direct this week, 787 00:50:39.679 --> 00:50:43.840 next week. Sometimes I don't think that yet, Okay, okay, 788 00:50:43.960 --> 00:50:45.800 and I agree. I think that's right, Jenne. I really like the 789 00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:50.159 idea of treating this next direct as a victory lap. I think they can 790 00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:55.000 do that. Maybe drop Metro Prime for like news guy, let me believe 791 00:50:55.039 --> 00:51:00.360 all right, I'm it's I know it's just inherently funny, but let me 792 00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:05.400 believe it's. Yeah, someone else has to start saying this. I want 793 00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:07.960 you to finish the story, all right. I want you the story, 794 00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:10.360 Greb. That's another thing. I was doing my walk today. I was 795 00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:14.199 trying to smile like Cody Rhodes, and I'm not going to explain that. 796 00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:15.719 So just if you want to go to break jam, please get me out 797 00:51:15.719 --> 00:51:19.719 of here before we go to break snow bike Mike, thank you so much 798 00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:22.000 for gracing us with your presence, your present, Biels, He's a present 799 00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:25.880 here, folks. Uh. Tell the folks at home where they can find 800 00:51:25.920 --> 00:51:30.199 more snow bike mone What up, everybody, it's your boys. Snow Bike 801 00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:31.960 Mike want to give a big thank you to all the audience for letting me 802 00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:35.840 be a small part of their day, to the Giant Bomb crew for having 803 00:51:35.880 --> 00:51:37.519 me. Of course, it is a blast getting to hang out with this 804 00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:40.599 crew. You guys are all incredible and amazing. You are part of my 805 00:51:40.719 --> 00:51:44.960 daily life and most importantly, if you want more snow bike Mic in life, 806 00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:46.800 you can find me over with the crew over at kind of Funny Games, 807 00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:50.679 Twitch dot tv, Slash kind of Funny Games, YouTube dot com Slash 808 00:51:50.719 --> 00:51:53.360 kind of Funny Games. We're talking all things nerdy news and of course playing 809 00:51:53.440 --> 00:52:00.119 video games. Until then I'll see you again. Thanks, boys, Or 810 00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:01.880 take a quick breaking break and you know, we'll say goodbye to Mic in 811 00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:06.199 our own private way, and then we'll see you back with some more news 812 00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:12.519 in some games. Right after this, I'm looking out my window and what 813 00:52:12.760 --> 00:52:20.559 was formally sunny skies has now been covered in gray and overcast because the sun 814 00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:24.199 and the joy that was snow bike Mic has has left us. Yeah, 815 00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:30.719 that's true, but but don't forget overcast skies best for even lighting. That 816 00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:34.719 is very true. Hey, you know how I wouldn't shut up for the 817 00:52:34.719 --> 00:52:39.559 longest time about iPhone fifteen shooting in luck. Yeah, I finally upgraded yo, 818 00:52:39.679 --> 00:52:47.000 that shoots in log A minute long clip four K twenty four. I 819 00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:52.199 never saw this twist coming. It's five gigs, y'all. Huh, yes, 820 00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:55.000 it is data management. Yeah, that's a lot. Like people are 821 00:52:55.039 --> 00:52:58.599 like and we're gonna be playing triple A games on our phones. It's like, 822 00:52:58.800 --> 00:53:01.400 what the rest of a four is? Seventy eight gigabytes? So you're 823 00:53:01.400 --> 00:53:06.320 gonna put that on your phone when you're shooting in log exactly, especially in 824 00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:10.719 b next next place we go, I'm not even bringing the big camera anymore. 825 00:53:10.760 --> 00:53:15.719 I'm just gonna shoot all in log. There's there's software that there's apps 826 00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:19.719 that will let you like color correct on iPhones too, right, Like yeah, 827 00:53:19.719 --> 00:53:21.599 you can do you can pretty much do everything on it, right, 828 00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:24.960 and like you could do all that jazz there. I'm pretty sure some hot 829 00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:29.039 louts. You got some hot lots on your iPhone yo, yo, yo, 830 00:53:29.159 --> 00:53:31.679 you are a dirty LUTs ya. No, come on, y'all know 831 00:53:32.159 --> 00:53:37.119 they'll double up the spot here. But let me tell y'all, I fell 832 00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:39.159 for like one of those lut bundles. During the holidays because they were like, 833 00:53:39.199 --> 00:53:44.480 oh, it's sixty percent off and I tried it. They're all garbage, 834 00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:46.880 and the thing is garbage lots. I kind of know what I'm doing 835 00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:52.719 when it comes to color correction, and this is all garbo. I think 836 00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:57.320 it's like I've only played around with that stuff from like a surface level, 837 00:53:57.320 --> 00:54:00.360 and even then, I'm like, man, doing lut and color correction stuff 838 00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:06.239 on a touchscreen small iPhone is like, I don't want to do that, 839 00:54:06.519 --> 00:54:10.679 but I think it's awesome that you can. Oh, oh, hold on, 840 00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:14.639 what happened? I mean we're still recording, so we're just going on 841 00:54:14.679 --> 00:54:20.440 the podcast the shan. At one point during the news or something, I 842 00:54:20.480 --> 00:54:22.800 started using my keyboard and forgot to mute. So if you could just get 843 00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:30.760 that out of there, thanks, Bud let me. Did you just like 844 00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:36.880 turn off obs just hard quit? That's rough? Yeah, that's that hasn't 845 00:54:36.920 --> 00:54:38.599 happened. Yeah, there we are. Okay, Now the camis are all 846 00:54:38.639 --> 00:54:43.559 messed up. Oh, I guess that that's because of Oh maybe it just 847 00:54:43.559 --> 00:54:47.840 didn't save after but Mike left. Do you do you use DaVinci Resolve when 848 00:54:47.880 --> 00:54:54.480 you are color correcting it? Like the by Far the accepted standard. Right 849 00:54:54.519 --> 00:55:00.360 stop us. I'll still use Premiere when it just like uh, like a 850 00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:05.519 quick edit or like perhaps you're editing your coworker going to it. Results started 851 00:55:05.559 --> 00:55:08.480 as color reduct like color correction, like that was its whole deal and now 852 00:55:08.480 --> 00:55:12.719 it's everything. But yeah, and then like uh, when I when I 853 00:55:12.840 --> 00:55:16.159 try to do any of the color correction in Premiere, it just doesn't work 854 00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:22.239 right, Like none of the sliders or or or dials are dialing it in, 855 00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:25.440 just like it makes sense with Resolve. But anyway, I believe we're 856 00:55:25.480 --> 00:55:30.559 back. No, No, I'm glad you brought up snow bike Mike and 857 00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:36.599 uh attempting to make a correlation between this the cloudy skies. That's a I 858 00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:40.760 think that dude, That dude has an infectious energy, who is just such 859 00:55:40.760 --> 00:55:45.159 a pleasure to be around. Good. I think it's yeah, I mean 860 00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:50.480 like that's the other side of the conversation. I guess you know. We 861 00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:52.519 always bring both sides. That's what we're known for, fair and balance. 862 00:55:52.599 --> 00:56:00.079 The duality of man, yeah, the duality of jan Right, I have 863 00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:05.400 more news if you guys would like us to continue here, Let's wrap up 864 00:56:05.400 --> 00:56:08.800 this like nintended by looking at this list of sixty five games that have all 865 00:56:08.840 --> 00:56:13.639 sold at least a million copies on the Nintendo Switch. And that's only the 866 00:56:13.679 --> 00:56:16.280 games that we know of that have been publicly confirmed to sell a million copies. 867 00:56:17.079 --> 00:56:21.679 This list is comprehensive. There's a lot of stuff on here. Metroid 868 00:56:21.719 --> 00:56:25.760 dread number thirty eight with three point zero seven million copies sold. Anything on 869 00:56:25.880 --> 00:56:31.599 here surprise you, guys? Astral Chain, Yeah, you do you even 870 00:56:31.639 --> 00:56:36.320 know what that is? No? A, Yeah, it's like a platinum 871 00:56:36.360 --> 00:56:37.239 game, right, I actually never played it. I always meant to. 872 00:56:37.360 --> 00:56:42.119 That's one I've like a not even deep cut, but it's one I missed 873 00:56:42.119 --> 00:56:44.119 on the Switch. I'm like, eh, I should maybe go back and 874 00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:45.599 play that, because I've played almost all the games I wanted to play on 875 00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:52.639 the Switch. I think Luigi's Mansion three is criminally low on this list. 876 00:56:52.519 --> 00:56:55.440 You think, well, I mean, though it's fourteen million copies, I 877 00:56:55.440 --> 00:56:59.639 still think that's a crime. Yeah, listen, it's a great game. 878 00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:02.360 Fourteen million copies. It's just so much more than almost any other thing nothing 879 00:57:02.679 --> 00:57:07.599 ever sold. Now. I know. There's there's two titles here that surprise 880 00:57:07.719 --> 00:57:15.960 me, one being Pokemon Scarlet and Violet reaching twenty four million copies. And 881 00:57:15.079 --> 00:57:22.239 I feel like when that was in its launch window, everyone saw how janky 882 00:57:22.320 --> 00:57:27.559 the performance was. Yeah, yet everyone still bought in and dived in. 883 00:57:27.639 --> 00:57:30.159 It looks like they've already well, you can't take Fanboy seriously, so you 884 00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:34.800 can't take them seriously. They'll they'll have their outrage, but they'll still dive 885 00:57:34.960 --> 00:57:37.039 all the way in. They'll hold their nose and take out their credit card. 886 00:57:37.519 --> 00:57:42.360 The Metopias sold one point eight million copies. Is that right? It's 887 00:57:42.400 --> 00:57:50.199 a it's a three DS like me based rpgh okay dungeon whatever you say, 888 00:57:50.679 --> 00:57:53.199 sure, appropriate response, like you're right back a lot. Yeah, but 889 00:57:53.239 --> 00:58:00.239 the things real Yo Ring Fit Adventure has sold fifteen million copies and they've I 890 00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:04.440 believe that, but they've done nothing with it afterwards. Yeah, but I 891 00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:07.239 believe that. It's eighty dollars. I think they're like, the thing they're 892 00:58:07.239 --> 00:58:09.119 doing is cash and checks. I think that's the kind of all They're like, 893 00:58:09.119 --> 00:58:12.719 Hey, the thing's gonna keep selling. We're happy about it. Yes, 894 00:58:12.800 --> 00:58:15.000 so sure. Yeah. It did slow down a little bit because it 895 00:58:15.320 --> 00:58:19.480 used to be in the top ten and New Super Mario Brothers Utiluxe went back 896 00:58:19.480 --> 00:58:22.360 into the top ten above it after selling another five hundred thousand copies, likely 897 00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:28.719 because of the movie. The movie got, like the revenues from that showed 898 00:58:28.760 --> 00:58:30.400 up in these earnings. They made a ton of money from that, like 899 00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:37.079 a ninety one percent increase in revenue from non gaming endeavors for Nintendo, and 900 00:58:37.079 --> 00:58:42.039 that's a big part of it. Super Mario Odyssey's sold another seven hundred thousand 901 00:58:42.039 --> 00:58:45.920 copies in the last quarter, Super Smash Brothers Ultimate sold another one point two 902 00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:49.199 million copies, Animal Crossing another one point four million copies, and Mario Crede 903 00:58:49.280 --> 00:58:52.880 Deluxe, as we said before, another three point five seven million costs. 904 00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:55.960 Astonishing, absolutely astonishing. I think what's also crazy is what is this but 905 00:58:57.880 --> 00:59:01.599 bars one? Well, sure, but one third of the top fifteen are 906 00:59:01.639 --> 00:59:07.559 Pokemon games. Oh that yeah, yeah, that's honestly, it's almost surprising 907 00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:12.320 how many games aren't Pokemon games, because Pokemon just like sells automatically. So 908 00:59:12.360 --> 00:59:16.480 the fact that we have like Super Mario Party right there at twenty million copies 909 00:59:16.480 --> 00:59:24.000 sold for Super Mario Party out selling basically any PlayStation or Xbox exclusive outside of 910 00:59:24.039 --> 00:59:29.239 I think Horizon and may be like last the most last less part one, 911 00:59:29.559 --> 00:59:34.400 Yeah, like that. Yeah, the Super Mario Party outsold just about anything 912 00:59:34.440 --> 00:59:37.559 that's on any other console by itself here as an exclusive. Yeah, even 913 00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:44.360 like in an offshoot like New Pokemon Snap. This is sitting pretty at like 914 00:59:44.519 --> 00:59:51.039 twenty like two point four million. Yes, it's uh, never gonna change. 915 00:59:51.880 --> 00:59:54.280 No, I mean this is the software sales, honestly. So the 916 00:59:54.400 --> 01:00:00.119 Nintendo's investor relations page does a good job of kind of keeping track of the 917 01:00:00.199 --> 01:00:04.719 history of how things have sold. And we talked about the Switch hardware selling 918 01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:08.599 very well and it's approaching all time levels of maybe it could outsell the PS 919 01:00:08.599 --> 01:00:13.360 two by next year or something like that, which would make it the number 920 01:00:13.360 --> 01:00:16.519 one best selling hardware of all time. But the software, like even when 921 01:00:16.599 --> 01:00:21.639 Nintendo has very successful hardware, like the three DS was really successful, it 922 01:00:21.639 --> 01:00:23.119 did very well for them. It wasn't as successful as the DS, but 923 01:00:23.199 --> 01:00:28.519 it only sold about three hundred and eighty million pieces of software. The Switch 924 01:00:28.559 --> 01:00:31.519 is at one point two billion pieces of software. It's the first time Switches 925 01:00:31.519 --> 01:00:36.760 ever sold. It's the first time Nintendo hardware has ever had more than a 926 01:00:36.800 --> 01:00:40.480 billion pieces of software moved for it, and it's flown past that to one 927 01:00:40.519 --> 01:00:46.239 point two billion. So the closest they had before that I think was maybe 928 01:00:46.760 --> 01:00:50.440 the Wii or the DS, and I think both of those were around nine 929 01:00:50.519 --> 01:00:55.400 hundred and fifty million, so twenty five percent more than they've ever done before 930 01:00:55.920 --> 01:00:59.000 just from software. So it's a big part of that is more games are 931 01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:01.320 coming out than ever. But honestly, you just can't do that if people 932 01:01:01.360 --> 01:01:06.280 aren't buying games. People love buying games for their Switch, and that's going 933 01:01:06.360 --> 01:01:10.840 to be like the biggest challenge for Nintendo is keeping that momentum onto the switch 934 01:01:10.880 --> 01:01:15.400 too. And I think that's the like when we start like, uh, 935 01:01:15.480 --> 01:01:17.039 you know, game theorying out, like how this is going to work. 936 01:01:17.239 --> 01:01:21.039 That's the biggest reason why I think most of us assume the Switch two is 937 01:01:21.079 --> 01:01:22.800 going to be very similar to the Switch because they don't want to fuck that 938 01:01:22.960 --> 01:01:25.320 up. They want to keep that going as much as possible, Right, 939 01:01:27.159 --> 01:01:30.360 Yeah, I mean you that's yeah, Yeah, that's like they're bread and 940 01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:35.320 butter at this point, right, Like I'm not going to my Nintendo Switch 941 01:01:35.320 --> 01:01:38.079 and playing Mortal Kombat one on it. I'm going there to play Arms, 942 01:01:38.440 --> 01:01:45.119 a superior fighting game on the Switch. I still think we are not like 943 01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:52.519 really digesting these numbers, they are like unfathomable, like I that is just 944 01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:58.679 a one point two billion, yeah, and I mean to be fair, 945 01:01:58.719 --> 01:02:01.960 like you put this the WE and the DS together, like that's actually they 946 01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:07.639 still did more, but because games cost they weren't as expensive then and it 947 01:02:07.679 --> 01:02:09.239 was and then then on the other side, there was a smaller market back 948 01:02:09.280 --> 01:02:15.639 then. But I still like still one point two billion on any single device 949 01:02:15.400 --> 01:02:19.159 I think, you know, PlayStation usually does right around a billion, I 950 01:02:19.199 --> 01:02:23.480 think, and they and they have like huge third party support. That's the 951 01:02:23.519 --> 01:02:28.360 thing. Like Switches had pretty good third party support, but it still doesn't 952 01:02:28.360 --> 01:02:30.599 have Call of Duty, it doesn't have Madden, it's got a shitty version 953 01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:35.840 of FIFA NBA two K doesn't really sell that well on there as it sells 954 01:02:35.880 --> 01:02:37.840 well enough for them to keep making it. But like those third party games 955 01:02:37.880 --> 01:02:42.840 that really power the PlayStation to get to a billion pieces of software sold to 956 01:02:42.840 --> 01:02:46.639 each generation, Nintendo's doing it with mostly first party and then a bunch of 957 01:02:46.639 --> 01:02:50.760 indie games that sell really well and then a handful of third party games that 958 01:02:50.760 --> 01:02:52.800 two I was going to say, we need to consider the Sueka factor here, 959 01:02:53.559 --> 01:03:00.559 of course, like more Switches did the did that little water in games 960 01:03:00.599 --> 01:03:04.239 sell? How many? How many pairs of joy cuns do you think there 961 01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:07.440 are out in the wild? Oh? Jam, why would you? Why 962 01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:09.800 would you write? So we're at one hundred and thirty nine million switches, 963 01:03:12.039 --> 01:03:17.639 so we're talking about pairs, so you got to assume there's at least and 964 01:03:17.639 --> 01:03:22.320 fifty. I think you're probably right, like, because I'm just like, 965 01:03:22.480 --> 01:03:27.800 conservatively, let's say there's one point seventy five for every switch. There's almost 966 01:03:27.800 --> 01:03:31.079 certainly more than that. Yeah, because how well did the switch lights sell? 967 01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:36.199 It's actually selling really well. Uh oh that was, And that's one 968 01:03:36.199 --> 01:03:39.400 of the little tidbits of news. Uh it was the best selling of the 969 01:03:39.440 --> 01:03:44.599 three like two million of the three million in the last quarter were switch lights. 970 01:03:44.800 --> 01:03:52.159 Oh dang, all right, but history historically, the the OG switch 971 01:03:52.320 --> 01:03:54.440 out sold it for most of the time. Now, I think the O 972 01:03:54.599 --> 01:03:58.559 lead is kind of number two, and then the OG switch, which has 973 01:03:58.599 --> 01:04:02.599 mostly been sort of sidelined as the the O lead gets into the Zelda bundle 974 01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:06.639 and stuff like that. But I think we're at a point where a lot 975 01:04:06.679 --> 01:04:13.000 of switches that are selling our second dairy, you know, the tertiary switches 976 01:04:13.559 --> 01:04:15.840 or for younger people like for kids, and it's like, oh, let's 977 01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:17.960 just get them the switch light. You know, they don't need to They're 978 01:04:17.960 --> 01:04:20.159 not gonna be playing on the TV. This is just gonna be theirs. 979 01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:23.400 It's going to stay in the room most of the time. So I think 980 01:04:23.400 --> 01:04:28.760 we're seeing that's how things are shifting a little bit over time. I guess 981 01:04:29.079 --> 01:04:33.440 last thing, do you guys think the switch out sells the PS two, 982 01:04:33.440 --> 01:04:38.400 Because I'm still like, oh man, another fifteen million units if the switch 983 01:04:38.440 --> 01:04:42.400 to or I'm sorry, the possess they switch to PlayStation two if the switch 984 01:04:42.440 --> 01:04:45.519 to launches this year, I think it'll be pretty hard for Nintendo to sell 985 01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:49.719 another fifteen million switches. I mean you could. This is just the This 986 01:04:49.760 --> 01:04:53.480 is more a math problem, right, I mean yeah, I mean we 987 01:04:53.639 --> 01:04:58.400 look it out. It's definitely not impossible. And if they find a way 988 01:04:58.480 --> 01:05:00.840 to keep the switch selling even when the Switch two is out there, it's 989 01:05:00.840 --> 01:05:04.840 inevitable. If there's yeah, especially if there's crossover gen games, right, 990 01:05:05.079 --> 01:05:10.039 Like, yeah, I think that will seal the deal. How sure, 991 01:05:10.239 --> 01:05:15.159 how much of those PS two lifetime sales factor in like post PS three? 992 01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:18.199 Like people just yes, all the it's all every year the PS two. 993 01:05:18.199 --> 01:05:24.280 That one hundred and fifty million whatever it is, fifty five million is the 994 01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:27.079 whole ten years that the PS two is selling. And is that also like 995 01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:30.920 the slim as well? Yeah? Yes, yeah, because presumably like even 996 01:05:31.199 --> 01:05:34.920 even when switch two comes out, like, presumably there's gonna be this regular 997 01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:40.360 switch price drop. Wow, I guess yeah, yeah, there may be. 998 01:05:40.639 --> 01:05:45.920 They're presh isn't Isn't that a thing in the past. Definitely. The 999 01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:48.840 reason that they might not do it is because I think they will have a 1000 01:05:48.960 --> 01:05:56.039 much more expensive switch to and so having the switch still as three hundred and 1001 01:05:56.079 --> 01:05:59.599 then switch to little three fifty. Right, it's the medium popcorn thing where 1002 01:05:59.599 --> 01:06:01.039 it's like, well, why wouldn't I just get a switch to for fifty 1003 01:06:01.079 --> 01:06:05.199 dollars more or one hundred dollars more. So they might go that route, 1004 01:06:05.559 --> 01:06:09.159 but they could they could just as easily drop it by fifty dollars. You're 1005 01:06:09.239 --> 01:06:12.559 right, we'll see. I just don't know how much they're going to care 1006 01:06:12.639 --> 01:06:15.679 to sell switches once the switch to is out, because they rather throw them 1007 01:06:15.679 --> 01:06:20.719 out. Yeah. Well, I think that they they learned the lesson of 1008 01:06:20.880 --> 01:06:26.519 the three DS and the WE or especially the three DS moving to the switch 1009 01:06:26.719 --> 01:06:30.519 that people that they sell games to these days are ready to move on pretty 1010 01:06:30.519 --> 01:06:34.519 fast. And you know, maybe the PS four like speaks to a different 1011 01:06:34.679 --> 01:06:39.519 dichonomy where a lot of people kept playing games on their PS four. But 1012 01:06:39.559 --> 01:06:44.079 I think maybe that audience behavior is slightly different for Nintendo, where they are 1013 01:06:44.960 --> 01:06:46.760 a lot of people that buy a lot of Nintendo games have bought a probably 1014 01:06:46.800 --> 01:06:50.719 a handful of switches, two switches, maybe three switches, And when you're 1015 01:06:50.719 --> 01:06:54.599 dealing with that kind of behavior, they're going to be ready to pick up 1016 01:06:54.639 --> 01:06:59.039 a switch as soon as or switch to as soon as possible. All right, 1017 01:07:00.079 --> 01:07:03.320 let's get out the Nintendo news. Suicide Squad came out, and it's 1018 01:07:03.400 --> 01:07:09.920 kind of in a weird situation where sure, some people kind of like it, 1019 01:07:09.960 --> 01:07:13.559 but the metacritic is at like sixty one, sixty two. Maybe it's 1020 01:07:13.599 --> 01:07:17.639 moved since I last looked, but low sixties and it's but it did top 1021 01:07:17.679 --> 01:07:21.800 the sales in the UK. Chris Dring over Games Industry I Biz did clarify 1022 01:07:21.840 --> 01:07:27.119 though it sold about half of what Guardians of the Galaxy sold in its first 1023 01:07:27.119 --> 01:07:31.400 week. Hoch you mommy, Wow, hotchi mommy is probably the correct response 1024 01:07:31.480 --> 01:07:34.920 to that. So when you put it that way. When you put it 1025 01:07:34.960 --> 01:07:43.599 that way, it's like seven years for a studio as expensive as rock Steady. 1026 01:07:44.519 --> 01:07:47.639 Yeah, there is no universe in which this is anywhere near what it 1027 01:07:47.639 --> 01:07:51.599 needed to do. I know we covered this game right a little bit. 1028 01:07:51.800 --> 01:07:58.599 I think everyone should watch that. I also think everyone should watch Ralph's skill 1029 01:07:58.639 --> 01:08:00.920 up video on Suicide Squad, which is I think he does a really good 1030 01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:10.599 job of articulating like the fact that, like this game is really impressively like 1031 01:08:10.639 --> 01:08:15.719 from a production value, like it's impressive, but like almost everything beyond that 1032 01:08:15.439 --> 01:08:19.359 is kind of dead on arrival. I think he puts that into a really 1033 01:08:19.359 --> 01:08:25.079 good, uh sort of conversation there. But when you put it like that 1034 01:08:25.119 --> 01:08:28.359 against guard that is, that's that's wild. Yeah, we're not even talking 1035 01:08:28.399 --> 01:08:30.600 about Avengers, right, We're not talking about like, oh, it's in 1036 01:08:30.640 --> 01:08:33.760 the range of what Avengers did. It's like, no, it did worse 1037 01:08:33.800 --> 01:08:36.680 than the game that did significantly worse than the Avengers, Guardians of the Galaxy, 1038 01:08:38.479 --> 01:08:41.279 and I think Guardians a Galaxy. I can't remember what we said what 1039 01:08:41.479 --> 01:08:44.680 one two million copies sold? I think it was like one point five million, 1040 01:08:46.039 --> 01:08:53.119 So WHOA, that is gonna be rough whoaoa, whoa. Here's the 1041 01:08:53.199 --> 01:08:57.239 thing, y'all. What I think you like it? You? Yeah, 1042 01:08:58.399 --> 01:09:01.159 okay, okay, explain the game umbling mechanic in it that's keeping you glued 1043 01:09:01.199 --> 01:09:03.880 to your seat. You haven't gone to the games part yet. There's a 1044 01:09:03.880 --> 01:09:09.760 different gambling mechanic that's gotten me glued to my seat. Uh, you know, 1045 01:09:09.800 --> 01:09:13.640 we'll talk about that will be the hot topic on a BCR this week 1046 01:09:13.680 --> 01:09:16.399 because Tam and Lucy have beaten it and I'm gonna I'm gonna jump in. 1047 01:09:16.640 --> 01:09:18.760 I'm gonna yeah, they both play. Yeah, they were both like I 1048 01:09:18.800 --> 01:09:23.520 think Lucy had some very nice things to say about that presentation side of things. 1049 01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:27.760 I watched some clips of that just popped up on social media, so 1050 01:09:27.760 --> 01:09:29.680 I was like, oh, I'm gonna seek out the story. But they 1051 01:09:29.680 --> 01:09:33.960 were story clips and I thought it was very funny. The writing is very 1052 01:09:34.000 --> 01:09:39.840 good. I've heard rise and how well they did that that. Yeah, 1053 01:09:39.880 --> 01:09:43.199 well we'll get there when we No. I'm happy you feel this way, 1054 01:09:43.319 --> 01:09:45.439 Jane. This is good. This is this is what opinions are all about, 1055 01:09:45.640 --> 01:09:48.159 aren't they. We'll talk we'll talk about in games a little bit on 1056 01:09:48.319 --> 01:09:51.600 this episode, but yeah, I'll jump on on BCR. I'm gonna play 1057 01:09:51.600 --> 01:09:55.159 some of it this week, and I'm gonna have a lot of questions for 1058 01:09:55.560 --> 01:09:58.680 you. Who are you who's enjoying it? And Tam and Lucy who have 1059 01:09:58.720 --> 01:10:02.039 beaten it, and I think they both have mixed feelings about it, all 1060 01:10:02.159 --> 01:10:05.640 right. Elder Ring may get a mobile version from ten Cent Tense through an 1061 01:10:05.640 --> 01:10:10.359 in house development team is repoortly working on a mobile version of elder Ring. 1062 01:10:10.640 --> 01:10:15.319 However, the project faces challenges and attacking the game's original design to a mobile 1063 01:10:15.319 --> 01:10:20.600 platform. Really you don't say yeah, like I we don't even have to 1064 01:10:20.640 --> 01:10:24.479 say the thing out loud, right, yeah right, It's like, yeah, 1065 01:10:24.720 --> 01:10:29.000 that was useless, useless the use of my the pixels on my screen 1066 01:10:29.000 --> 01:10:31.319 here to put those words up there, because we all already knew that that 1067 01:10:31.359 --> 01:10:34.640 would be very challenging. This is how Typing of the Dead was created, 1068 01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:39.159 right where they're like, no one's gonna like gun, what are we gonna 1069 01:10:39.159 --> 01:10:43.840 do? Well, we could make keyboards. You want to zombies and keyboards. 1070 01:10:44.239 --> 01:10:45.520 It turns out like Typing Other Dead. I'll be very happy. It's 1071 01:10:45.520 --> 01:10:51.960 a great drinking game. Oh fun, listen, this this makes some sense 1072 01:10:53.079 --> 01:10:57.279 because phones are so powerful and this game is so popular. I see how 1073 01:10:57.319 --> 01:11:01.279 you like, Well, I can do it and do it, but I 1074 01:11:01.319 --> 01:11:03.000 don't know if the elder ring on it, well, I don't know. 1075 01:11:03.119 --> 01:11:06.880 Guess it gets an impact, yeah I have. I mean, honestly don't 1076 01:11:06.920 --> 01:11:11.439 know anymore. If look, obviously, the controller thing is the issue. 1077 01:11:11.479 --> 01:11:15.399 I think if you know people connect controllers through their iPhones, people like, 1078 01:11:15.439 --> 01:11:17.319 that's fine, we say that controllers are an issue. But the thing is, 1079 01:11:17.359 --> 01:11:21.840 there's a whole generation of gamers that have acclimated it to playing fps's. 1080 01:11:23.359 --> 01:11:29.199 Yes, they suck, they constantly suck. Yeah, but like for someone 1081 01:11:29.199 --> 01:11:30.479 else, that's all they know. Like, you know, I'm saying they're 1082 01:11:30.520 --> 01:11:34.319 bad at games, right, is that what you're saying. I don't know. 1083 01:11:34.319 --> 01:11:38.680 I think they're bad. Like it's funny, doesn't matter because this doesn't 1084 01:11:38.680 --> 01:11:43.079 matter because it's if it's a whole generational universal decline, then we're all at 1085 01:11:43.119 --> 01:11:45.960 the same level. Anyway, I asked the I asked my kid the other 1086 01:11:45.039 --> 01:11:48.199 day because he was playing Rollblocks on an iPad and you know this guy who 1087 01:11:48.279 --> 01:11:53.119 like obviously just you know, went to town on Spider Man two, and 1088 01:11:53.159 --> 01:11:55.439 I say, like, what do you like better? What do you what 1089 01:11:55.479 --> 01:12:00.319 do you like using better? And he he genuinely like it didn't even occur 1090 01:12:00.399 --> 01:12:03.000 to him that like he could have a preference. And maybe it's just like 1091 01:12:04.479 --> 01:12:09.800 a human sort of understanding of like having opinions on things issue. But I 1092 01:12:09.840 --> 01:12:13.880 also think he like is not considering it in the way that we do. 1093 01:12:14.239 --> 01:12:17.880 Maybe we are coming from an older school like idea of like one has to 1094 01:12:17.920 --> 01:12:19.840 be better than the other. I think for him, it's just like, 1095 01:12:19.880 --> 01:12:23.600 whatever it is, I'll do it. No, dude, Like there's there's 1096 01:12:23.680 --> 01:12:29.119 like a whole group of like Splatoon players that swear by the tilt controls. 1097 01:12:29.399 --> 01:12:33.840 Mmy, that prefer that over dulsticks. Yeah, I mean, Dan does 1098 01:12:33.920 --> 01:12:38.399 absolutely. I mean so it's like people from all generations have grown to really 1099 01:12:38.399 --> 01:12:44.439 love gyro aiming. That's something like I keep Delicious keep Yeah. Yeah, 1100 01:12:44.479 --> 01:12:47.199 I keep trying to force myself to use that, but I just can never 1101 01:12:47.239 --> 01:12:53.359 get used to it. Persona Leaker who has a good record of getting things 1102 01:12:53.399 --> 01:12:57.199 right with When it comes to Persona and Atlas Rumors says that Persona two and 1103 01:12:57.239 --> 01:13:02.239 Persona four remakes are both both in the works. I think that's that's pretty 1104 01:13:02.239 --> 01:13:06.880 interesting. Persona two is one that like is I think very difficult for fans 1105 01:13:06.880 --> 01:13:10.399 to go back to. I've never touched it. I do know it's got 1106 01:13:10.439 --> 01:13:12.520 Hitler in it, so that's gonna be fun. I want to see how 1107 01:13:12.560 --> 01:13:15.399 they update that. It's great. Yeah, that's right, it's it's pretty. 1108 01:13:15.520 --> 01:13:17.840 That's gonna be a They're just gonna take it out, right. I 1109 01:13:17.880 --> 01:13:20.720 know they didn't take out the shooting yourself in the head in Persona three. 1110 01:13:20.960 --> 01:13:25.840 That was probably the right choice. Maybe you take out the Hitler maybe maybe 1111 01:13:25.920 --> 01:13:30.520 maybe. Yeah. The shooting yourself with the evoker though, that is metal 1112 01:13:30.560 --> 01:13:32.520 as hell. If listen, if I had an evoker, I would go 1113 01:13:32.560 --> 01:13:34.520 back in time and shoot Hitler. All right. I just want to make 1114 01:13:34.560 --> 01:13:38.560 that clear. I don't want to see his persona. Oh right, so 1115 01:13:38.800 --> 01:13:41.159 that's that would happen. It doesn't actually hurt him. You have a mind, 1116 01:13:41.840 --> 01:13:45.760 uh, all right? And then Square Enox is overhauling its development process 1117 01:13:45.800 --> 01:13:50.800 to improve game quality. Square is undergoing a comprehensive review of its development process 1118 01:13:50.800 --> 01:13:55.359 to enhance game quality. The decision was announced by they just left you. 1119 01:13:55.520 --> 01:13:59.039 It's something they had to decide to do. Wait, this should be better. 1120 01:14:00.319 --> 01:14:03.920 The decision was announced by President Tak Takashi Kiriu during a financial briefing. 1121 01:14:04.000 --> 01:14:08.319 The aim is to shift the focus to in house development for high profile titles, 1122 01:14:08.720 --> 01:14:13.399 reducing reliance on external studios. This new structure, with improved quality checks 1123 01:14:13.439 --> 01:14:17.159 at earlier stages, will be implemented from April. The move follows Final Fantasy 1124 01:14:17.199 --> 01:14:21.199 sixteenths launch, which fell short of expectations, leading to a fifteen percent drop 1125 01:14:21.239 --> 01:14:25.640 of the company's share price. So it's like, start in April, guys, 1126 01:14:25.680 --> 01:14:29.000 we are gonna stop fucking sucking. It's gonna be so, it's gonna 1127 01:14:29.079 --> 01:14:31.600 rule, it's gonna be awesome. How do they make games and not know 1128 01:14:31.680 --> 01:14:36.119 that they make games? Also they are about to sell you a huge game, 1129 01:14:36.439 --> 01:14:41.039 and they're like, we're gonna start making games that don't suck in April, 1130 01:14:41.079 --> 01:14:44.520 but by Final Fantasy seven rebirth next month, it's like, I don't 1131 01:14:44.520 --> 01:14:47.560 think Reworth is gonna suck, but still it's just a weird way of putting 1132 01:14:47.600 --> 01:14:55.479 things and how you just not naturally come to this conclusion. It doesn't inspire 1133 01:14:55.520 --> 01:14:59.560 me with the most confidence, but I'm just gonna you know, it's yeah, 1134 01:15:00.079 --> 01:15:04.159 very much that like you know, uh, forced recall, like activation, 1135 01:15:04.279 --> 01:15:08.239 You're like, well, we only force a regal if it's killing this 1136 01:15:08.319 --> 01:15:14.279 many people. Oh boy, finally, the Apple Vision Pro will not help 1137 01:15:14.319 --> 01:15:17.399 you crank it. Apple Vision Pro apples and VR headset has debuted with a 1138 01:15:17.399 --> 01:15:23.239 hefty price tag, offering impressive technology for tasks like working from home and gaming. 1139 01:15:23.680 --> 01:15:29.000 However, it lacks compatibility with VR porn, disappointing enthusiasts who anticipated its 1140 01:15:29.039 --> 01:15:33.520 feature. Despite efforts to find workarounds such as tweaking Safari settings or Sorty to 1141 01:15:33.600 --> 01:15:40.680 other devices or just desperately trying anything, users are still facing limitations and accessing 1142 01:15:40.920 --> 01:15:45.439 and accessing VR adult content. I want to see like that Apple Vision Pro 1143 01:15:45.560 --> 01:15:50.640 subreddit and just see how many people are commenting trying to work together to collect 1144 01:15:50.359 --> 01:15:54.600 it. I think you should leave guy in the car who sees a honk 1145 01:15:54.640 --> 01:16:00.680 of your horny a bumper sticker, just like Ramon on the horn. We 1146 01:16:00.680 --> 01:16:02.239 don't have to spend a lot of time on Apple Vision Pro. I just 1147 01:16:02.279 --> 01:16:08.520 want to say that the vibe that was floating around the Internet when Google Glass 1148 01:16:08.560 --> 01:16:16.239 came out is a grain of sand at the beach compared to the vitriol I 1149 01:16:16.439 --> 01:16:26.720 feel this time around with these absolute fucking freaks. I I'm so like also 1150 01:16:27.279 --> 01:16:31.079 also what we didn't have last time with the Google the Google Glass was and 1151 01:16:31.119 --> 01:16:36.279 I realized many many headsets have been introduced in between these two things. But 1152 01:16:36.319 --> 01:16:41.920 I do think the level of their pervasiveness is matched, right where like they 1153 01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:45.479 are like the thing that everyone is talking about in that sort of world. 1154 01:16:45.680 --> 01:16:50.520 I also think the content creators are dick riding this thing in a way that 1155 01:16:50.600 --> 01:16:56.000 I cannot wrap my fucking head around. Yeah, I mean they write at 1156 01:16:56.000 --> 01:16:59.920 certain point they like they can't help themselves, almost like literally they can't because 1157 01:16:59.920 --> 01:17:01.840 I they gotta get on the next big thing and this could be it. 1158 01:17:02.119 --> 01:17:09.960 So but like, and I understand there's this inherent need to like be enthusiastic 1159 01:17:10.000 --> 01:17:14.479 about a thing or or be critical, which I have yet, you know, 1160 01:17:14.520 --> 01:17:16.640 I don't know. I I like how Marquez has been covering it. 1161 01:17:17.760 --> 01:17:23.319 I think there's but the majority of like content creator around this thing, from 1162 01:17:23.359 --> 01:17:29.399 my point of view, has just been so disingenuous and so weird and fucking 1163 01:17:29.439 --> 01:17:32.560 annoying. I don't know. I mean, it bothers me, but I'm 1164 01:17:32.600 --> 01:17:35.840 like, I'm a weird android guy who will still get mad when people like, 1165 01:17:35.880 --> 01:17:39.560 look what Apple invented and it's something I've had for five years. Oh 1166 01:17:39.600 --> 01:17:42.600 oh yeah, I think it's I think it's less that though for me, 1167 01:17:42.720 --> 01:17:45.359 right, like, no, I know, I just that that is also 1168 01:17:45.439 --> 01:17:47.399 bothering me here. Sure sure, sure, sure, yeah. I mean 1169 01:17:47.840 --> 01:17:51.720 I think it's like and anyone can just be like, oh, this is 1170 01:17:51.760 --> 01:17:56.239 cool, Like I get that. I think it's cool. I think people 1171 01:17:56.279 --> 01:18:00.279 are talking about this thing like in ways that I just don't think we have 1172 01:18:00.359 --> 01:18:04.640 any real position to be making these assumptions about it. I do think it's 1173 01:18:04.760 --> 01:18:09.880 like, this stuff is inevitable. I think, yeah, people are gonna 1174 01:18:09.880 --> 01:18:14.119 want to just plaster the world in their own they want to customize their world, 1175 01:18:14.560 --> 01:18:18.079 and skin packs for the world will be a thing, and and having 1176 01:18:18.760 --> 01:18:21.560 data pop up on people that walk up to you in your life and being 1177 01:18:21.600 --> 01:18:25.000 able to see their birth date and their kids and stuff will be sure. 1178 01:18:25.239 --> 01:18:28.359 I mean, it's almost an accessibility thing. This These things are inevitable. 1179 01:18:29.359 --> 01:18:32.319 But people walking around in the mall wearing them look like fucking jerk offs. 1180 01:18:32.439 --> 01:18:38.800 And yeah, it gives me the hes. They always were they always were, 1181 01:18:39.560 --> 01:18:45.800 Yeah, they always were wearing a head Sure now we know, now, 1182 01:18:45.840 --> 01:18:47.640 we know you're right there. Now, it's just a self report right, 1183 01:18:47.760 --> 01:18:49.920 like now you could you could have hit the fact you were a jerk 1184 01:18:49.920 --> 01:18:54.640 off for a while. Yeah, it's just that I'm a big fan of 1185 01:18:55.560 --> 01:19:02.720 Casey Nystat but just seeing that guy zoom on an electric skateboard that video. 1186 01:19:02.920 --> 01:19:06.560 Did not love that video. Yeah, yeah, just like Casey No no, 1187 01:19:06.560 --> 01:19:12.119 no, no, no please right like the man. The stupidest part 1188 01:19:12.159 --> 01:19:15.279 that I've seen from Apple Vision Pro are the people like talking about how great 1189 01:19:15.760 --> 01:19:21.439 it is for as a camera and like you just see these people like with 1190 01:19:21.560 --> 01:19:25.800 their VR helmets just going like, yeah, this is this is the angle 1191 01:19:25.880 --> 01:19:30.039 I want. Okay, click, I'm like you, fuck you fucking idiot, 1192 01:19:30.239 --> 01:19:33.439 just pull a camera out or a phone. Now, if Martin Scorsese 1193 01:19:33.680 --> 01:19:38.399 was doing that, I might be on board. But otherwise all right, 1194 01:19:38.399 --> 01:19:42.720 but I want to see them hang Sam Raimi up with a vest or like 1195 01:19:42.720 --> 01:19:49.560 a like apparatus so Sam Raimi can do his weird gimbal zooming up on someone 1196 01:19:49.680 --> 01:19:53.000 up to like Bruce Campbell. I need that, Yeah, exactly. It's 1197 01:19:53.000 --> 01:19:57.399 just gonna strap Bruce Campbell in five vision pros and just make real art. 1198 01:19:57.520 --> 01:20:00.720 Finally, Uh, that's off of the news. That's all I got for 1199 01:20:00.760 --> 01:20:02.720 you. This week, I'm gonna hand this show back over to you. 1200 01:20:02.800 --> 01:20:06.159 Jan. Hell of a segment there, Yeah, what a we got through 1201 01:20:06.159 --> 01:20:09.439 it. What a wild show that's been. Well, you know, let's 1202 01:20:09.520 --> 01:20:14.560 let's talk about some video games. What about that fellas? Yeah? Too 1203 01:20:14.560 --> 01:20:18.399 many buts okay, oh oh god. It feels like I was in an 1204 01:20:18.399 --> 01:20:26.159 Apple Vision Pro thirty five hundred dollars. That's insane. Though. Remember it's 1205 01:20:26.199 --> 01:20:29.680 not just not for people. It's not for people. We say it's not 1206 01:20:29.760 --> 01:20:33.319 for people, but people are peaking them up because it's like a new PC. 1207 01:20:34.079 --> 01:20:39.159 Sure, I mean you know, like, yeah, all right, 1208 01:20:39.680 --> 01:20:45.840 if a Apple Vision no Pro comes out for this is I'm try like I 1209 01:20:45.840 --> 01:20:49.039 got to add the Apple tax for like nine hundred ninety nine dollars one thousand 1210 01:20:49.119 --> 01:20:54.920 dollars you guys in the market. No, And I don't again, like, 1211 01:20:54.960 --> 01:20:58.479 I don't begrudge anyone forgetting this thing. I'm not. I'm not saying 1212 01:20:58.520 --> 01:21:00.560 like you're a fucking loser if you one of these, I would definitely take 1213 01:21:00.560 --> 01:21:04.199 one if they sent me one with that course of course. Yeah, I 1214 01:21:04.640 --> 01:21:09.840 just uh, I don't know if I have any real fundamental use for it. 1215 01:21:09.840 --> 01:21:12.600 I don't think anyone does. I think that's the thing too, which 1216 01:21:12.800 --> 01:21:15.600 is perfectly reasonable to say out loud, like uh, And like all the 1217 01:21:15.680 --> 01:21:19.920 examples I see of folks using the Apple Vision Pro, it's just so they 1218 01:21:19.920 --> 01:21:24.960 can have more windows up like exactly, which I don't. That seems to 1219 01:21:25.000 --> 01:21:28.880 be like the killer app is that you can just like have your own workspace 1220 01:21:29.000 --> 01:21:32.119 in in ar. But I mean the killer app that I saw is someone 1221 01:21:32.199 --> 01:21:35.359 was making dinner and they put a timer over one pot and a timer over 1222 01:21:35.399 --> 01:21:38.760 other pot. Yeah, so they could look over and the timers just hung 1223 01:21:38.760 --> 01:21:42.279 over those pots. Sure, and it's like, Okay, that's pretty fucking 1224 01:21:42.279 --> 01:21:45.000 cool. Yeah, of course. And yeah, I mean and then when 1225 01:21:45.119 --> 01:21:48.760 like it's timers, great, and when my glasses can do that in the 1226 01:21:48.800 --> 01:21:53.720 form factor that they currently are, like, it'll be great, and that'll 1227 01:21:53.720 --> 01:21:58.359 be an awesome thing. Uh. But for even a thousand dollars, like 1228 01:21:58.720 --> 01:22:01.439 Michael and Chat, I have done that with the metaquest three. All right, 1229 01:22:01.520 --> 01:22:06.720 I have cooked with that thing on, and it is terrifying. Do 1230 01:22:06.760 --> 01:22:11.199 you do you like watch like like a YouTube video like floating up above the 1231 01:22:11.239 --> 01:22:13.479 sink or something or what. Yeah, that's what I was doing when I 1232 01:22:13.520 --> 01:22:16.159 was like washing dishes. That's when when you're washing dishes. Yeah, So 1233 01:22:16.239 --> 01:22:19.880 like for me, I'm much more interested in AR than than VR at this 1234 01:22:20.000 --> 01:22:24.359 point. And I know and and this thing is not AR, right, 1235 01:22:24.479 --> 01:22:29.760 it's just VR basically right because it's showing because you don't see out the goggles. 1236 01:22:30.119 --> 01:22:32.920 You do see that's the whole you can see through the goggles. I 1237 01:22:32.920 --> 01:22:36.880 think it's more it's much more AR than it is VR. You aren't you 1238 01:22:36.920 --> 01:22:41.399 seeing a camera vision of No? No, no, that's the medic quest. 1239 01:22:41.439 --> 01:22:43.760 You see a camera, but it's actually so it's good enough that it 1240 01:22:43.840 --> 01:22:45.840 might as well be AR. No, people say it's cameras, it's passed 1241 01:22:45.880 --> 01:22:50.840 through with camera. Okay, Okay, that's the point is that doesn't matter. 1242 01:22:51.439 --> 01:22:55.800 But I'm saying is that, like I, I want to see my 1243 01:22:56.039 --> 01:23:00.039 vision with your stuff overlaid my on top of and that's your preference, absolutely, 1244 01:23:00.159 --> 01:23:03.159 But like using the meta Quest three a lot, we're at a point 1245 01:23:03.159 --> 01:23:06.600 where it mostly doesn't matter. I think the camera quality and the Quest three 1246 01:23:06.760 --> 01:23:12.119 isn't even like the very best, but it's well past good enough to the 1247 01:23:12.159 --> 01:23:15.920 point where like this is acceptable AR. And I'm sure that the Apple Vision 1248 01:23:15.960 --> 01:23:21.199 pro is beyond that. Sure, what's wrong No, it just pains me 1249 01:23:21.239 --> 01:23:25.119 inside. Like I see a lot of people saying this is the best piece 1250 01:23:25.119 --> 01:23:27.439 of tech that they've ever used, and I'm just like, all right, 1251 01:23:27.640 --> 01:23:31.000 I'm sure that it is. I'm sure that it is. But anyway, 1252 01:23:31.159 --> 01:23:35.960 all right, videos heavy sounds heavy, the one you are down in the 1253 01:23:36.000 --> 01:23:39.159 pocket. I don't, I get it. I get it, Like these 1254 01:23:39.159 --> 01:23:42.039 are just small their nitpicks totally. If I if I got one, I 1255 01:23:42.039 --> 01:23:44.359 would use it. Yeah, I would play around with it for sure. 1256 01:23:44.439 --> 01:23:46.439 Yes, I'm not going to drive with it on though. No, no, 1257 01:23:46.439 --> 01:23:48.439 no, I'm not a piece of shit. It used to be, 1258 01:23:48.600 --> 01:23:54.520 but I'm not anymore. I'll I mean, some slick back hair would fit 1259 01:23:54.680 --> 01:24:01.399 well under I'll do some ar slobby stakes. Let's go. Hell yeah, 1260 01:24:02.079 --> 01:24:04.760 gentleman. Steam Next Fest is going on, So there's a bunch of demos 1261 01:24:04.760 --> 01:24:09.439 abound. Oh did you hop into something I did? I did? I 1262 01:24:09.479 --> 01:24:16.079 hopped into Blastro Blastro. This is a roguelike game, so you know this 1263 01:24:16.159 --> 01:24:18.960 may be up your your alley, mister grout. Does it have anything to 1264 01:24:19.000 --> 01:24:23.000 do with Balo that's the song? Or is it just? No? I 1265 01:24:23.039 --> 01:24:28.119 wish it did because then it'd be extremely vibe, you know, it's it's 1266 01:24:28.119 --> 01:24:31.880 a roguelike card game, and you just like a slave the spire, you 1267 01:24:31.920 --> 01:24:36.720 were assembling a deck as you go along. But this just happens to tap 1268 01:24:36.760 --> 01:24:44.479 into a recent hobby that I've discovered, that hobby being poker. So it 1269 01:24:44.640 --> 01:24:50.920 is a poker roguelike of sorts, okay, where you are playing hands and 1270 01:24:50.960 --> 01:24:54.800 your hands maybe you know, like, all right, you're just playing high 1271 01:24:54.840 --> 01:24:57.840 card. Cool. Oh you're gonna play two pair, all right, Oh 1272 01:24:57.880 --> 01:25:00.960 you got a flush, you got a royal? All right? Cool cool 1273 01:25:00.960 --> 01:25:06.159 cool cool cool cool cool. But so how it works is each card has 1274 01:25:06.279 --> 01:25:11.760 a chip value attached to it, So an ace will be eleven face cards 1275 01:25:11.840 --> 01:25:15.199 I believe, or ten, and then it goes on in numerical order, 1276 01:25:15.600 --> 01:25:19.479 and depending on how many cards you're using in your specific hand when you're playing 1277 01:25:19.520 --> 01:25:25.199 it, that I'll add a multiplier. So if you use like I believe, 1278 01:25:25.199 --> 01:25:29.279 if you do throw in two pairs, it'll multiply at times four I 1279 01:25:29.319 --> 01:25:32.359 want to say. So it'll take that chip value that you're generating with your 1280 01:25:32.439 --> 01:25:39.439 face cards and numbered cards and multiply that by four. And then with each 1281 01:25:39.640 --> 01:25:44.640 different encounter or level, you have to exceed a or at least reach a 1282 01:25:44.640 --> 01:25:49.199 certain chip value. So you're small blind, which is your first round here 1283 01:25:49.479 --> 01:25:55.199 you'll have to reach let's say three hundred chips. The big blind will have 1284 01:25:55.279 --> 01:25:59.159 to be like six hundred chips. But where it gets funky, y'all, 1285 01:25:59.800 --> 01:26:06.840 is you upgrade. You get the ability in between encounters to get joker cards, 1286 01:26:06.840 --> 01:26:13.359 and these joker cards will add multipliers or different different aspects to your game. 1287 01:26:13.479 --> 01:26:20.479 So say, for instance, one joker card will multiply your multiplier if 1288 01:26:20.520 --> 01:26:26.439 you have if you're playing odd numbered cards or even number cards, or specific 1289 01:26:26.520 --> 01:26:30.680 suits or specific conditions like hey, like you play three of a kind, 1290 01:26:30.720 --> 01:26:34.079 you're going to increase your multiplier by three. So then like it starts adding 1291 01:26:34.079 --> 01:26:40.279 a little bit of complexity to there. And I should say you have fifty 1292 01:26:40.319 --> 01:26:45.119 two cards to start out the game, and you have up to five hands 1293 01:26:45.159 --> 01:26:50.680 to reach your chip value. On top of that, you can discard sets 1294 01:26:50.720 --> 01:26:58.159 of cards up to three times in a round. But going back to how 1295 01:26:58.199 --> 01:27:01.960 you're accumulating cards, you're also getting tarot cards. And these tarot cards are 1296 01:27:02.000 --> 01:27:06.359 kind of like wilds where they'll have different conditions, like all right, I'm 1297 01:27:06.359 --> 01:27:13.279 gonna upgrade my queen to be a gold card. So now this queen will 1298 01:27:13.520 --> 01:27:17.560 give me money if I don't play it, and if I end this round 1299 01:27:17.560 --> 01:27:23.560 with it in my hand, or it'll increase the multiply multiplier or on top 1300 01:27:23.600 --> 01:27:28.800 of that, it'll change the suit to be a wild so I can mix 1301 01:27:28.800 --> 01:27:33.079 and match with anything. And you quickly slam through this game and wind up 1302 01:27:33.079 --> 01:27:39.039 developing your own play style, like I wound up just going straight for flushes, 1303 01:27:39.319 --> 01:27:44.359 so I wound up leveling up my flushes, so and just trying to 1304 01:27:44.359 --> 01:27:53.399 cater specifically towards spades and diamonds where I would be trying to destroy other suits, 1305 01:27:53.840 --> 01:27:56.800 like I'm trying to get rid of all the hearts, all the clubs 1306 01:27:56.800 --> 01:28:00.199 in my deck to just cater for bless you for space and diamonds in my 1307 01:28:00.279 --> 01:28:04.560 specific deck. And uh I was. I was just rinsing through where I 1308 01:28:04.600 --> 01:28:08.560 would take care of the small blind, the big blind, and then like 1309 01:28:08.600 --> 01:28:14.600 the boss within a round, within one hand, because I've already catered to 1310 01:28:14.960 --> 01:28:19.399 uh get like a level five flush. Okay, I'm watching gameplay of this, 1311 01:28:19.800 --> 01:28:25.159 you're describing it and this. Okay, So first off, it's called 1312 01:28:25.199 --> 01:28:31.000 I think it's called Blatro nott Okay, Blatro Okay, this game has figured 1313 01:28:31.000 --> 01:28:38.319 out a way to like turn poker into like a blind box slot machine. 1314 01:28:38.640 --> 01:28:42.840 Yeah, Like my god, like you just gave me a rush of dopamine 1315 01:28:43.199 --> 01:28:46.319 saying words, spet that out loud and I fucked your ears up right, 1316 01:28:46.439 --> 01:28:54.079 Like this is crazy, yo, And like the thing is so it's it's 1317 01:28:54.119 --> 01:29:00.159 technically still in early access. Yeah, but I kept playing the demo and 1318 01:29:00.239 --> 01:29:02.800 there was like no shut off time. The only thing that they're talking about 1319 01:29:02.880 --> 01:29:06.279 of like, hey, yeah, we'll just have different variations of joker cards 1320 01:29:06.359 --> 01:29:13.479 and tarot cards. Another aspect to it is, yes, in between rounds 1321 01:29:13.520 --> 01:29:17.960 they have these blind these blind booster packs backal are sure, and then some 1322 01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:23.239 of those will have different foils in them, different in some of that stuff. 1323 01:29:23.399 --> 01:29:27.279 It's so funny because poker is the original like buff game, you know, 1324 01:29:27.359 --> 01:29:30.600 like it's the original of like anything with cards, right, Like there's 1325 01:29:30.640 --> 01:29:32.880 always like weird rules like oh tunes are wild now, like you can you 1326 01:29:32.920 --> 01:29:38.199 know, like and this just takes it to the end degree. Oh my 1327 01:29:38.399 --> 01:29:42.399 god. I love how like they describe it as a game where you play 1328 01:29:42.520 --> 01:29:48.079 illegal poker hands. I also really like the way it looks. It's like 1329 01:29:48.319 --> 01:29:56.039 it's very like big fonts, make simple fonts and like low fi UI. 1330 01:29:57.000 --> 01:30:00.439 And then the the artwork on the cards is also sort of not it's not 1331 01:30:00.560 --> 01:30:03.439 Game Boy Color, but it's like a generation beyond the Game Boy Color. 1332 01:30:03.479 --> 01:30:06.079 But it looks like it's kind of staying in that and in that like limited 1333 01:30:06.119 --> 01:30:12.079 palette, and I like that as well. The other go ahead, Greb. 1334 01:30:12.560 --> 01:30:15.640 I'm just gonna say, I'm kind of want to I'm gonna pla I'm 1335 01:30:15.640 --> 01:30:17.199 gonna play this game, but I kind of want to watch you play. 1336 01:30:17.359 --> 01:30:21.239 Jan We were so strapped on time if we could do some like next Best 1337 01:30:21.239 --> 01:30:24.960 demos at something. Yeah, let me say how long this is running? 1338 01:30:24.960 --> 01:30:28.479 This game is out in two weeks. By the way, though it is 1339 01:30:28.560 --> 01:30:34.199 like it, it is also such a smart card game because it's just a 1340 01:30:34.239 --> 01:30:40.399 card game as well, because immediately one of the biggest issues that it took 1341 01:30:41.079 --> 01:30:44.399 it took something like Slay the Spy a while to get adjusted to is the 1342 01:30:44.640 --> 01:30:48.000 speed, and they just let you crank the game speed like from the jump. 1343 01:30:48.119 --> 01:30:55.279 Okay, so like you are you are melting time away. I stayed 1344 01:30:55.319 --> 01:30:58.159 up last night because I had to go edit some stuff, and I was 1345 01:30:58.199 --> 01:30:59.840 like, oh, you know what, let me go check out some of 1346 01:30:59.880 --> 01:31:02.239 the demos to play for so I can talk about it on the podcast. 1347 01:31:02.600 --> 01:31:10.800 Uh oh more And then oh boy, did I suddenly lose three hours playing 1348 01:31:10.880 --> 01:31:16.239 this demo? Oh my god? But it is insane, Like I I 1349 01:31:16.279 --> 01:31:20.560 feel like I am stealing the game right now by playing the demo because of 1350 01:31:20.560 --> 01:31:26.720 how full fledged it is. But u bilatro. It's also helping me identify 1351 01:31:26.800 --> 01:31:30.640 poker hands, like just yeah, you're also practicing with it, so I 1352 01:31:30.680 --> 01:31:33.399 can't encourage that. No, I'm kidding. Yeah, it's wild. This 1353 01:31:33.439 --> 01:31:38.920 looks wild. It's yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm getting in there. 1354 01:31:38.960 --> 01:31:41.279 I'm I'm going. I'm just going in the next fest right now. And 1355 01:31:41.319 --> 01:31:44.720 I started downloading some demos and that's the one I'm getting right now. So 1356 01:31:44.880 --> 01:31:48.079 very excited to try that out. And oh god, I can't. I 1357 01:31:48.119 --> 01:31:54.159 can't stop singing its praises like I could, uh if this was like on 1358 01:31:54.239 --> 01:31:57.680 a phone or whatever, which I guess, like you could just like do 1359 01:31:57.720 --> 01:32:00.720 steamlink or whatever. Sure it'd be like like oh no, I wouldn't. 1360 01:32:00.800 --> 01:32:08.439 I wouldn't be here right now, guys, has anyone else been playing anything 1361 01:32:08.479 --> 01:32:12.600 else? I've been playing a lot more like a Dragon Infinite wealth. I 1362 01:32:12.680 --> 01:32:17.119 am at a point where you lose a member of your party and that like 1363 01:32:17.279 --> 01:32:23.560 permanently, uh one drops out two more hot back end uh. And so 1364 01:32:23.600 --> 01:32:27.000 it's like now I have more party members, then I have slots in the 1365 01:32:27.039 --> 01:32:29.399 party, and so it's kind of fun being able to be like, okay, 1366 01:32:29.439 --> 01:32:31.720 let's see how that works. And well through that time, the combat, 1367 01:32:31.880 --> 01:32:36.000 which was already fun, keeps getting like like just you know, slight 1368 01:32:36.079 --> 01:32:39.600 variations on, like now you could do this, and now the characters do 1369 01:32:39.640 --> 01:32:43.359 these follow up attacks because there's such good buddies that they're just gonna run in 1370 01:32:43.359 --> 01:32:45.640 and help you even if you don't necessarily throw someone at them, like at 1371 01:32:45.680 --> 01:32:48.960 like how it worked before, and good news, you could still do that 1372 01:32:49.039 --> 01:32:51.560 as well. So you're gonna be doing a ton of damage all the time, 1373 01:32:53.039 --> 01:32:56.000 and and that combat that was already fun, it's gonna be even funner. 1374 01:32:56.439 --> 01:33:00.199 H And so I'm really enjoying that aspect of it. After Dan Doco 1375 01:33:00.359 --> 01:33:05.000 Dare, I went onto back to my Dondogo Island, which is basically the 1376 01:33:05.039 --> 01:33:09.319 animal Crossing Many game which they send you to like you have to go in 1377 01:33:09.359 --> 01:33:13.399 there for a little bit and as part of the main campaign, but you 1378 01:33:13.399 --> 01:33:16.079 can leave. I did not. I just kept playing it until I got 1379 01:33:16.119 --> 01:33:23.000 five stars. Oh, because it's super satisfying. It's simple. It's a 1380 01:33:23.039 --> 01:33:26.520 simplified version of Animal Crossing, but the but it's actually got a lot more 1381 01:33:26.520 --> 01:33:30.079 going on than you even expect. It's just like, oh, you're gonna 1382 01:33:30.079 --> 01:33:32.119 be able to accomplish this in a handful of hours instead of something like Animal 1383 01:33:32.119 --> 01:33:36.000 Crossing. You need to play it like a whole year. And I kind 1384 01:33:36.000 --> 01:33:39.600 of wanted to keep playing it because it was just fun, like getting people 1385 01:33:39.600 --> 01:33:44.319 to come visit my island and see seeing if I could satisfy their needs so 1386 01:33:44.359 --> 01:33:46.439 that they would have bigger tips. And as you're going through that process, 1387 01:33:46.640 --> 01:33:49.840 you're able to try and you improve your island. You're able to attract more 1388 01:33:49.880 --> 01:33:53.439 people that have more money, and so it's like, well, this is 1389 01:33:53.520 --> 01:33:57.920 gonna be even more worth worthwhile if I keep doing this. But I have 1390 01:33:58.119 --> 01:34:01.920 now veered back into the story and it's I'm surprised how easy it was to 1391 01:34:01.920 --> 01:34:05.920 get right back in the swing of things. They did very wisely have the 1392 01:34:06.039 --> 01:34:11.560 don Doco side quest distract you at a moment where it's like, once you 1393 01:34:11.560 --> 01:34:13.760 get back into it, well work, this is gonna happen. This is 1394 01:34:13.800 --> 01:34:15.880 gonna happen, and then the drama is gonna get ramped up and we're gonna 1395 01:34:15.920 --> 01:34:20.079 have some of our best like acting moments and all that stuff. So and 1396 01:34:20.119 --> 01:34:24.640 I'm like really getting a feel for the city and exploring it and it's just 1397 01:34:24.680 --> 01:34:28.199 all kind of coming together for a game I was already enjoying. I'm enjoying 1398 01:34:28.199 --> 01:34:33.399 it even more. It is like maybe thirty five hours in, and you 1399 01:34:33.439 --> 01:34:35.960 know, thirty thirty five hours in, and I'm like, man, do 1400 01:34:36.079 --> 01:34:40.359 I do feel like I am very a very long way from finishing this game. 1401 01:34:40.760 --> 01:34:43.159 And it's like more and more games are showing up, more and more 1402 01:34:43.199 --> 01:34:45.000 games are on the horizon, and I'm like, I hope I can actually 1403 01:34:45.079 --> 01:34:48.800 beat this game, but as it stands right now, I want to. 1404 01:34:49.159 --> 01:34:51.600 I hope too, But we'll see if I'm able to stick with it. 1405 01:34:51.640 --> 01:34:57.039 As like things start coming out here pretty soon. Yeah, stuff is raping 1406 01:34:57.159 --> 01:35:00.479 up. I do enjoy that. I feel like Infinite Wealth has and reaching 1407 01:35:00.520 --> 01:35:03.159 a wider audience than I expected. Like outside of it, I think it's 1408 01:35:03.439 --> 01:35:08.760 it's sold like a million copies, much faster than any like a Dragon game 1409 01:35:08.840 --> 01:35:11.800 is sold before. That's great. To hear. That's great to Yeah, 1410 01:35:12.119 --> 01:35:15.840 I think I think it is officially popping off in that way that you were 1411 01:35:15.840 --> 01:35:18.079 like, Hey, this game seems like it has potential to reach new audiences. 1412 01:35:18.399 --> 01:35:23.199 I think it has officially done exactly that, and not like I'm among 1413 01:35:23.239 --> 01:35:25.880 them. I've played some of these games a little bit before, but I've 1414 01:35:25.920 --> 01:35:28.319 never really gotten into them in the way that I have with this one. 1415 01:35:28.479 --> 01:35:31.800 I think they've just really figured out what they are, and so like they 1416 01:35:31.840 --> 01:35:35.760 are, it's very easy for them to like, Okay, we do this 1417 01:35:35.840 --> 01:35:40.000 and this, and we're gonna make that stuff all better. And then when 1418 01:35:40.000 --> 01:35:42.720 we try new stuff, well, we feel comfortable trying new stuff because we 1419 01:35:42.720 --> 01:35:44.920 already know what works for us and that's already in the game and we have 1420 01:35:44.960 --> 01:35:48.039 a ton of it. So it's just kind of at a point where everything 1421 01:35:48.039 --> 01:35:51.520 I do I'm enjoying, and the stuff that is the fundamental aspect of the 1422 01:35:51.560 --> 01:35:56.520 game, the combat and the relationships between the characters, all that stuff is 1423 01:35:56.840 --> 01:36:00.640 so top notch that it's very easy to get invested in it. Yeah. 1424 01:36:00.640 --> 01:36:04.880 I think getting super into Infinite Wealth has kind of hampered my experience with Persona 1425 01:36:04.920 --> 01:36:11.319 three reload, which we talked about at length with Terbo Sean like Manatti and 1426 01:36:11.359 --> 01:36:15.279 Michael him. Last week on BCR, I spent some more time with Persona 1427 01:36:15.279 --> 01:36:24.359 three Reload and talking about like total shifts. It is like absolutely wild going 1428 01:36:24.399 --> 01:36:32.680 to the concept and the how fleeting time is and what you do with time 1429 01:36:33.319 --> 01:36:41.279 versus running around Hawaii with your hooligan friends. But I'm happy to say that 1430 01:36:41.239 --> 01:36:45.359 I'm enjoying more of my time with Persona three Reload now that I've been told 1431 01:36:45.399 --> 01:36:50.319 by the boys and the experts to focus less on all of the social links, 1432 01:36:50.319 --> 01:36:57.359 because that was one of my biggest like anxieties about playing Persona five Royal 1433 01:36:57.560 --> 01:37:00.279 is that I felt like, after a while I was playing that game with 1434 01:37:00.359 --> 01:37:05.079 a spreadsheet of making sure I was maximizing all of my time throughout the day, 1435 01:37:05.439 --> 01:37:11.119 but hearing that all right, some of these ultimately there's not gonna be 1436 01:37:11.119 --> 01:37:14.680 a good payoff, or there's not gonna be an amazing payoff to just just 1437 01:37:14.720 --> 01:37:17.199 like real life, go with the friends that you like and go foster those 1438 01:37:17.279 --> 01:37:27.520 relationships. The other game I've been playing besides the poker game and UH and 1439 01:37:28.119 --> 01:37:30.960 Like a Dragon and Persona three Reload and the other game that we can't talk 1440 01:37:31.000 --> 01:37:38.800 about mm hm is. I'm just typing this out for myself. Suicide Squad 1441 01:37:38.920 --> 01:37:43.000 killed the Justice League. Oh what's what is this? Let me tell y'all. 1442 01:37:43.119 --> 01:37:45.840 Y'all, y'all like loot, I think it's called Unalive Squad Actually, 1443 01:37:45.880 --> 01:37:48.520 so when we put this on TikTok later, Oh okay, okay, Sean, 1444 01:37:48.560 --> 01:37:59.079 please please adjust. I don't like me, I don't like I don't 1445 01:37:59.119 --> 01:38:02.640 know how to feel about that. Let me tell y'all. Let me tell 1446 01:38:02.720 --> 01:38:08.600 y'all. This game isn't bad. This game isn't all right, So, 1447 01:38:08.800 --> 01:38:12.399 like, you know what the criticism is, right, Like you know all 1448 01:38:12.439 --> 01:38:15.760 that? So so well, waits what is the criticism? Look? I 1449 01:38:15.800 --> 01:38:17.119 mean I think I've heard some of it. I did not watch Skill Ups 1450 01:38:17.159 --> 01:38:20.840 video yet. Let me say what I think it is, and then you 1451 01:38:20.840 --> 01:38:25.079 guys can confirm if this is actually true or not based on what you've heard 1452 01:38:25.199 --> 01:38:28.920 or what you've played. Uh. It is a game that does have some 1453 01:38:29.119 --> 01:38:32.279 fun elements in terms of moving the characters around and fighting, like there's actually 1454 01:38:32.279 --> 01:38:39.239 nothing necessarily wrong with that, but the missions you're doing, the design around 1455 01:38:39.279 --> 01:38:42.479 all of that is repetitive, right, And then the game doesn't know what 1456 01:38:42.520 --> 01:38:45.119 it wants to be and that distracts from everything that is good about it. 1457 01:38:45.239 --> 01:38:47.960 And then the performance is very good. Yeah, the visuals are very good, 1458 01:38:48.239 --> 01:38:51.560 and the storytelling and the humor is actually really on point. Yeah, 1459 01:38:51.600 --> 01:38:55.399 I hear that. And the thing I'll add on to that that I've been 1460 01:38:55.439 --> 01:39:01.520 hearing a lot is that it's too focused on gun play and oh, the 1461 01:39:01.560 --> 01:39:06.760 characters are very similar, yes, and and that there's nothing really that you 1462 01:39:06.800 --> 01:39:12.760 know, Yeah, Captain America played very different than like Hawkeye in Avengers, 1463 01:39:12.800 --> 01:39:16.279 and like that is not happening here. Yeah, even with the traversal abilities, 1464 01:39:16.279 --> 01:39:19.359 it's like, oh, y'all can kind of do the same thing. 1465 01:39:19.680 --> 01:39:25.399 It just looks different. But that being said, the movement does feel good, 1466 01:39:26.119 --> 01:39:30.760 and I think that they've leaned into something that I completely forgot that Rock 1467 01:39:30.800 --> 01:39:34.600 said he was really good at, and that's just creating really good and well 1468 01:39:34.720 --> 01:39:40.960 animated scenes that pay a lot of attention. Everything looks top notch that I've 1469 01:39:41.000 --> 01:39:44.960 seen, like, yeah, straight up, And then I forgot that this 1470 01:39:45.079 --> 01:39:48.439 was one of Kevin Conroy, Kevin Conroy's last I think this is like the 1471 01:39:48.479 --> 01:39:51.960 last thing that's going to come out. I think the last pieces of work 1472 01:39:53.000 --> 01:39:56.880 that where he was Batman, and I was like, when you approach Batman 1473 01:39:56.920 --> 01:40:00.439 and you hear Kevin Conroy's voice, it's like, a I'll sit down, 1474 01:40:00.479 --> 01:40:03.520 I'll stop clowning on the game. Fine, And yeah, he's just doing 1475 01:40:03.600 --> 01:40:08.880 his he's in his bag. It's working really well. The voice cast that 1476 01:40:08.920 --> 01:40:14.840 they got working really well. These cutscenes look really good. It's just the 1477 01:40:14.920 --> 01:40:20.600 in between part of having to continue down the same loops over and over again 1478 01:40:21.199 --> 01:40:25.960 are a little bit I don't even want to say frustrating. It's monotonous, 1479 01:40:26.039 --> 01:40:30.960 is what it is. It's weird to think this in twenty twenty four, 1480 01:40:30.560 --> 01:40:36.720 but this is a I could justify paying sixty dollars for this game. Paying 1481 01:40:36.760 --> 01:40:42.479 seventy dollars, on the other hand, is a completely different story where I 1482 01:40:42.520 --> 01:40:47.680 think your money may be better served elsewhere. Despite liking the game, I've 1483 01:40:47.760 --> 01:40:50.600 yet to play multiplayer, so I have no idea what that experience is. 1484 01:40:50.720 --> 01:40:54.960 Like. Everything has been single player. It's prise same. I've heard people 1485 01:40:54.960 --> 01:40:57.920 say it doesn't improve things that all that much. Yeah, yeah, I 1486 01:40:58.399 --> 01:41:00.880 am looking at the flow of the game. I could just see some of 1487 01:41:00.920 --> 01:41:05.279 the missions going by faster, and you know, you're just mowing down. 1488 01:41:05.279 --> 01:41:09.399 It's already a short game based on what we've heard about nine hours to beat 1489 01:41:09.439 --> 01:41:12.119 it. Yeah, short and whatever, it's nine hours to beat it. 1490 01:41:12.239 --> 01:41:15.840 If that goes by faster and you spent seventy dollars on this, I could 1491 01:41:15.840 --> 01:41:17.680 see you looking around being like, wait, what the hell Isn't this supposed 1492 01:41:17.680 --> 01:41:20.439 to be something I'm supposed to coming back to? And I think most people 1493 01:41:20.439 --> 01:41:24.720 are going to get past that nine hours and not have a reason to revisit, 1494 01:41:24.760 --> 01:41:27.479 which is fine, I think in a lot of cases, but here 1495 01:41:27.600 --> 01:41:30.279 it feels a little bit weird, just because again the way, that's the 1496 01:41:30.319 --> 01:41:32.039 way it's being sold. Yeah, And I'm trying to think back of like 1497 01:41:32.079 --> 01:41:38.079 how I felt with Marvel's Avengers, and I remember thinking fondly ish about that 1498 01:41:38.239 --> 01:41:43.000 because the story was also pretty okay, if not good, i'd say, 1499 01:41:43.760 --> 01:41:47.159 but like the gameplay loop just wasn't there, And I don't see myself if 1500 01:41:47.199 --> 01:41:51.920 I continue to play through Kill the Justice League, I'm sorry Unlive the Justice 1501 01:41:53.000 --> 01:42:00.760 League that I would go back to to get better loot or or to like 1502 01:42:00.840 --> 01:42:06.439 improve my runs or whatever. I also feel like they should have just made 1503 01:42:06.439 --> 01:42:13.119 this and focused on making this a single player game. Versus a multiplayer game, 1504 01:42:14.279 --> 01:42:19.479 because then I think you would have more bespoke characters versus all of them 1505 01:42:19.520 --> 01:42:26.720 feeling pretty samey while moving around. But that or even a coup game without 1506 01:42:26.800 --> 01:42:30.720 the understanding of it being a live service game some way right where it's like, 1507 01:42:30.920 --> 01:42:33.319 no, yeah, we have a multiplayer campaign in there, and the 1508 01:42:33.399 --> 01:42:38.199 characters are very different because you you can play this campaign four times and it's 1509 01:42:38.239 --> 01:42:41.000 gonna feel very different because all these characters are very different. When it's like, 1510 01:42:41.520 --> 01:42:44.000 no, you need to pick your character and stick with it and play 1511 01:42:44.039 --> 01:42:45.960 with your friends and come back and you're gonna have a crew that's gonna be 1512 01:42:46.000 --> 01:42:49.600 your suicide squad crew. And I think they get that. They work themselves 1513 01:42:49.640 --> 01:42:53.359 into a shoot here, work themselves into a corner a little bit where I 1514 01:42:53.359 --> 01:42:57.840 think that they began designing the game from those needs and it just did not 1515 01:42:58.000 --> 01:43:01.039 serve this game great in any way. Yeah, And it's a bummer because 1516 01:43:01.119 --> 01:43:04.800 like when you jump into the cut scenes, like everyone has such a such 1517 01:43:04.920 --> 01:43:10.119 very distinct personalities and quirks, then none of that is reflected in the actual 1518 01:43:10.159 --> 01:43:14.720 like game play at all. So there's so there's like a disconnect there a 1519 01:43:14.720 --> 01:43:17.520 little bit like a huge disconnect, you know, like you'll see like Harley 1520 01:43:17.600 --> 01:43:21.359 Quinn emoting and like being like very true to that character and then like, 1521 01:43:21.680 --> 01:43:27.159 you know, King Shark is just a big shark. You know. This 1522 01:43:27.239 --> 01:43:30.439 makes me think a lot about I want to say, like some of the 1523 01:43:30.520 --> 01:43:34.000 reaction to Arkham Night when it came out, and I know that's eight years 1524 01:43:34.039 --> 01:43:40.680 ago, right, yeah sure, but like wasn't there weirdness around like the 1525 01:43:40.840 --> 01:43:45.119 bat cannon like batmobile thing? Oh yeah right? And like people were like, 1526 01:43:45.159 --> 01:43:50.840 why is Batman just like murking fools? Like what's happening? Is this? 1527 01:43:51.000 --> 01:43:56.680 What? What? Like? Is this such a a deviation from like 1528 01:43:57.319 --> 01:44:00.520 what rock Steady's good at or something like that. I don't know. I 1529 01:44:00.560 --> 01:44:05.000 guess what I'm getting at is like, what's where do we go from here? 1530 01:44:05.119 --> 01:44:09.359 I mean, you just said it grub in the news spot like this 1531 01:44:09.439 --> 01:44:13.960 is having a bit of a rough launch. So I mean it's like people 1532 01:44:14.000 --> 01:44:16.079 are calling this a stain on rock Steady that's going to be hard to wipe. 1533 01:44:16.079 --> 01:44:19.760 Weigh. It feels much more drastic than that, right, It feels 1534 01:44:19.800 --> 01:44:25.800 like does does a rock Steady going forward from this point with leadership that left 1535 01:44:25.840 --> 01:44:28.479 about last year? Maybe a little bit before that, but clearly in the 1536 01:44:28.840 --> 01:44:31.039 run up to the release of this game, because that was before the delay. 1537 01:44:31.119 --> 01:44:35.760 I think, does does a rock Steady like this need to continue? 1538 01:44:35.760 --> 01:44:39.039 And it's and like, I don't want to be like, oh, they 1539 01:44:39.039 --> 01:44:42.000 shouldlose the studio. I think they should find ways to keep rock Steady around 1540 01:44:42.000 --> 01:44:46.640 and doing things. Sure, but I think what beyond going back and making 1541 01:44:46.640 --> 01:44:50.399 a new Batman Arkham game. The idea of like, okay, building on 1542 01:44:50.439 --> 01:44:55.600 the future of rock Stay from this point feels very tenuous. Yeah, And 1543 01:44:55.640 --> 01:45:00.560 I feel like it's already become tenuous with superheroes in its entirety, right, 1544 01:45:00.680 --> 01:45:04.560 Like if you're not Spider Man, like I can't imagine shelling out to play 1545 01:45:04.560 --> 01:45:09.239 a game right now, and like you're not playing as Batman, which I 1546 01:45:09.239 --> 01:45:13.079 feel like would have attracted so many people. But you know, I mean 1547 01:45:13.079 --> 01:45:16.960 Gotham Nights, like even I feel like there's a giant fandom around those characters, 1548 01:45:17.359 --> 01:45:23.439 but there was no fervor at all when they came right right, Yeah, 1549 01:45:23.439 --> 01:45:26.680 those those fans are too busy just arguing online to play video. Yeah. 1550 01:45:27.000 --> 01:45:30.760 Yeah, it's kind of disappointed because I feel like d C has actually 1551 01:45:30.800 --> 01:45:35.560 had some solid comic book runs, and like, I feel like we get 1552 01:45:35.600 --> 01:45:42.399 too bogged down on the weeds because Zack Snyder has has infected everyone's minds and 1553 01:45:43.359 --> 01:45:47.640 DC constantly chasing Marvel when it comes to their respective cinematic universes, when I 1554 01:45:47.640 --> 01:45:54.159 feel like DC has had like a good grip on animated shows and for a 1555 01:45:54.199 --> 01:45:58.520 while video games too, at least with the Arkham series. So I, 1556 01:45:58.640 --> 01:46:00.079 yeah, I don't know what this means for rock Steady of moving forward. 1557 01:46:00.359 --> 01:46:08.359 Yeah no, And it's like it's just illustrative of like where the industry is 1558 01:46:08.399 --> 01:46:11.760 overall, where how easy it is to go from being on top of the 1559 01:46:11.760 --> 01:46:15.600 world making Batman Arkham games, all of them well received, all at you 1560 01:46:15.640 --> 01:46:19.760 know, well received at the least some of them received as or considered to 1561 01:46:19.800 --> 01:46:26.560 be some of the best games ever made. And then the economics change, 1562 01:46:26.600 --> 01:46:30.000 the incentives change. These companies look around and like, hey, it'd be 1563 01:46:30.039 --> 01:46:32.720 cool if we had a live service game. And so one scrap project turns 1564 01:46:32.760 --> 01:46:36.960 into another scrap project turns into now we're making suicide Squawks. That movie made 1565 01:46:36.960 --> 01:46:41.000 a lot of money, and oh boy, people kind of hate that movie 1566 01:46:41.039 --> 01:46:43.359 now, but hey, they made a lot of money. So we'll make 1567 01:46:43.359 --> 01:46:45.479 a lot of money with that, right, And then the second movie comes 1568 01:46:45.479 --> 01:46:46.960 out and it doesn't make any money and it was during the pandemic. But 1569 01:46:47.039 --> 01:46:53.399 it's like these the bad decisions can snowball so fast that when we talk about 1570 01:46:53.399 --> 01:46:56.680 like these companies being risk averse, this is the example that is going to 1571 01:46:56.720 --> 01:47:02.560 be pointed to going forward where they tried something slightly different and it just everything 1572 01:47:02.600 --> 01:47:05.800 went wrong with it in terms of how it could pay off. And now 1573 01:47:05.960 --> 01:47:10.279 now we're questioning the future of rock Steady and it's like rock Steady should be 1574 01:47:10.520 --> 01:47:12.800 around forever. They made the Arkham Games, and it's like, well, 1575 01:47:12.960 --> 01:47:15.000 that's not the way it's gonna work. But don't you think it's like it 1576 01:47:15.039 --> 01:47:23.880 is sort of manufactured more than it is risk right, Like don't you think 1577 01:47:24.279 --> 01:47:30.720 this comes from like focus testing something to to sort of hell and like right, 1578 01:47:30.880 --> 01:47:32.680 yeah, yeah, I guess, yeah, I you know, I 1579 01:47:32.680 --> 01:47:41.279 don't know. I think there is a a really difficult balance in the very 1580 01:47:41.399 --> 01:47:45.880 long development cycle of a lot of this stuff, where enough time goes by 1581 01:47:46.399 --> 01:47:51.000 and things kind of get lost or or there's a big enough detour from the 1582 01:47:51.039 --> 01:47:55.880 original sort of vision that you you you can kind of lose your way along 1583 01:47:55.880 --> 01:47:58.760 the way, if that makes sense, you know, yeah, and you 1584 01:47:58.760 --> 01:48:00.640 know, and like people chat like, hey, no one asked for this, 1585 01:48:00.680 --> 01:48:03.000 and it's like, yeah, I mean, no one explicitly asks for 1586 01:48:03.239 --> 01:48:05.720 a game like this, but you do look at the sales charts, and 1587 01:48:06.520 --> 01:48:12.079 a lot of times it's games that are live service multiplayer components that are always 1588 01:48:12.119 --> 01:48:14.720 at the top. I mean, we looked at the MPD chart a couple 1589 01:48:14.760 --> 01:48:16.920 weeks ago for the best selling games of twenty twenty three, and it's like, 1590 01:48:16.920 --> 01:48:19.720 oh, yeah, look at the Hogwarts. Olt sold all these other 1591 01:48:19.760 --> 01:48:24.199 games. That's a single pair of game. But then the MPD or sir 1592 01:48:24.279 --> 01:48:27.600 Kana excuse me, they changed their name, put out a list of like 1593 01:48:27.640 --> 01:48:30.960 and here's the games that actually are making the most money, no matter when 1594 01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:33.000 they came out, whether they came on twenty twenty three or not. And 1595 01:48:33.079 --> 01:48:35.960 almost no twenty twenty three game is on that list. It's all games that 1596 01:48:36.000 --> 01:48:39.880 are live service that have been around for a while. Destiny is even on 1597 01:48:39.920 --> 01:48:44.520 there, and stuff like that. So people don't ask for it. But 1598 01:48:44.560 --> 01:48:46.239 the wall, you know, the money speaks way louder than what people say 1599 01:48:46.279 --> 01:48:49.560 online, at least to many of these executives. Now, is that a 1600 01:48:49.560 --> 01:48:54.319 way to run your business? It is chasing that stuff ever going to work? 1601 01:48:55.279 --> 01:48:57.279 I think we all know at that point. No. I think we've 1602 01:48:57.279 --> 01:49:00.920 seen it enough times that chasing that down is really difficult to do. The 1603 01:49:00.960 --> 01:49:04.880 best you can hope for is kind of maybe getting on board if something new 1604 01:49:04.880 --> 01:49:08.640 when it comes out of nowhere, like a power world or something like that, 1605 01:49:08.800 --> 01:49:12.640 or a lethal company would say, hey, that's just popping up. 1606 01:49:12.680 --> 01:49:14.640 Let's go see if we can help them out and get on board with that. 1607 01:49:14.840 --> 01:49:17.439 But trying to manufacture it is very difficult. It's very easy for us 1608 01:49:17.520 --> 01:49:23.039 to stay here from our position and make these assumptions about like a game development, 1609 01:49:23.079 --> 01:49:26.279 right Like me, I asked myself, like, is this the game 1610 01:49:26.359 --> 01:49:29.560 Rocks that he wanted to make? Right like that? And that's you know, 1611 01:49:30.079 --> 01:49:33.680 probably not. I think there's elements element sure, yeah, pretty much 1612 01:49:33.680 --> 01:49:38.840 when it comes to like maybe the story, not the actual gameplay, because 1613 01:49:38.840 --> 01:49:44.199 it's just such a vast departure from any of the Arkham games, right. 1614 01:49:44.399 --> 01:49:46.960 I mean, listen, I think most of the time developers don't want to 1615 01:49:46.960 --> 01:49:50.239 be making games like this. That's not in every case, and I think 1616 01:49:50.279 --> 01:49:54.159 a lot of times they're like, hey, executives are saying they want something 1617 01:49:54.239 --> 01:49:56.239 kind of along these lines, could we do something like that? And I 1618 01:49:56.279 --> 01:49:59.159 think they a lot of times get to a situation that's like, yeah, 1619 01:49:59.199 --> 01:50:00.600 we believe in this to go for it, because you kind of have to 1620 01:50:00.600 --> 01:50:06.119 tell yourself that at a certain point. But really the like the answer like 1621 01:50:06.159 --> 01:50:10.399 did it come from the developers or executives doesn't matter so much. It's just 1622 01:50:10.439 --> 01:50:12.720 like, that's what happened, and so now this is what we have to 1623 01:50:12.720 --> 01:50:15.560 deal with. That's the dishwater. You got to soak in it. So 1624 01:50:15.760 --> 01:50:23.479 I think it's yeah, right, you hope that other publishers and other companies 1625 01:50:23.520 --> 01:50:27.319 will look at at examples like this and learn a lesson, But we've had 1626 01:50:27.359 --> 01:50:30.880 these lessons a bunch of times before, and they kind of don't until everything 1627 01:50:30.880 --> 01:50:34.600 starts collapsing like what has happened with live service games recently, and now everyone 1628 01:50:34.720 --> 01:50:36.880 is a little bit spooked. But before that, it's like, no, 1629 01:50:38.039 --> 01:50:43.720 everyone is making their Sony's got twelve that they're making and it's okay, And 1630 01:50:43.760 --> 01:50:45.800 I get at a certain point like you got to make a lot of bets 1631 01:50:45.840 --> 01:50:48.960 to see one succeed, But it also just feels like this, isn't that 1632 01:50:49.000 --> 01:50:53.680 distracting you from what you do well? And can you grow in a more 1633 01:50:53.720 --> 01:50:56.800 sustainable way instead of just like we are all in on this thing, and 1634 01:50:56.840 --> 01:51:00.560 now suddenly the House of Cards is tipped over and it's it's on the ground 1635 01:51:00.560 --> 01:51:03.239 and you're left with twelve live service games that no one was asking. Yeah, 1636 01:51:03.279 --> 01:51:08.640 yeah, go be like Square decide to make good games. Yeah right, 1637 01:51:08.880 --> 01:51:12.520 everyone should live their life the waar Square squear Enix does. Deciding to 1638 01:51:12.560 --> 01:51:15.920 be better in April. It's so brave of them. They're so brave. 1639 01:51:16.119 --> 01:51:20.680 I don't stop sucking in April. Two guys, all right, Me me 1640 01:51:20.840 --> 01:51:24.199 too, Me too? Oh man, look at us, Look at us. 1641 01:51:24.199 --> 01:51:30.600 I'm gonna be I'm gonna be the best me in April with Square, 1642 01:51:30.680 --> 01:51:33.960 is it? It's not even like failing up or like falling up the stairs. 1643 01:51:34.000 --> 01:51:39.680 It's just like, I don't know, Like I feel like they're constantly 1644 01:51:39.720 --> 01:51:42.840 finding twenty dollars in their pocket and be like, oh man, I'm gonna 1645 01:51:42.840 --> 01:51:46.720 save this. I'm good at money. You others say like rock Steady is 1646 01:51:46.760 --> 01:51:51.199 like WB Games was like the rumor mail for very long time, years and 1647 01:51:51.279 --> 01:51:55.000 years, and it was true that they were trying to sell off their studios. 1648 01:51:57.079 --> 01:52:00.000 But it's like, this is another example of why that was so difficult, 1649 01:52:00.039 --> 01:52:03.000 because they're gonna they were gonna sell you rock Steady, they weren't gonna 1650 01:52:03.000 --> 01:52:06.439 sell you Batman in the Arkham universe. Yeah, you're gonna have to least 1651 01:52:06.439 --> 01:52:10.159 that back from them, and that makes this game make even less sense. 1652 01:52:10.560 --> 01:52:15.439 So it's just, yeah, it's a rough situation. I hope that rock 1653 01:52:15.479 --> 01:52:17.800 Steady is able to just bounce back. Go make a Batman game, do 1654 01:52:17.800 --> 01:52:21.920 do what works, make a Superman game even let's not go crazy, Yeah, 1655 01:52:23.520 --> 01:52:28.920 I mean, can do another Bruce. Let's go needs to be more 1656 01:52:28.960 --> 01:52:30.680 emo. He's not sad enough. I want to. I want to, 1657 01:52:31.199 --> 01:52:35.479 you know, it's like sad Dad Superman. I want Yeah, exactly, 1658 01:52:36.520 --> 01:52:42.159 that'd be dope. Thanks make that. I you know, what the one 1659 01:52:42.199 --> 01:52:45.840 we need is is super Dan sixty four, Dan Reikert playing Superman sixty four 1660 01:52:45.920 --> 01:52:49.239 from Black Club. That's what we really need. Yeah, yeah, that's 1661 01:52:49.720 --> 01:52:54.039 that's what That's what we gotta do. I did play one other game. 1662 01:52:54.239 --> 01:52:57.000 If if everyone else is through their stuff, yeah, I play. I 1663 01:52:57.039 --> 01:53:01.279 played a game called Mortal Combat Mythology sub Zero because I at a certain point, 1664 01:53:01.319 --> 01:53:05.039 I couldn't just sit there and turn right, Yeah, my turn, 1665 01:53:05.520 --> 01:53:11.319 you breaking into jail. I'm using save states, So that is like it's 1666 01:53:11.359 --> 01:53:13.359 like making it kind of a fun thing where it's like, oh, I 1667 01:53:13.600 --> 01:53:15.439 saw Mike do this, let me give this a try. A couple of 1668 01:53:15.439 --> 01:53:18.479 times I did try, like to do that second level that Mike spent you 1669 01:53:18.479 --> 01:53:24.479 know, six hours on like for shoot a couple of times and it's watching 1670 01:53:24.560 --> 01:53:27.039 him. It's like, Okay, I can't. I know I could possibly 1671 01:53:27.079 --> 01:53:30.119 do this, but why would I waste my life minutes doing something that we're 1672 01:53:30.239 --> 01:53:35.119 forcing Mike to do? But that I did. I did. Look, 1673 01:53:35.199 --> 01:53:40.279 I did some level select to see what's coming, and you know, I'm 1674 01:53:40.319 --> 01:53:42.279 not gonna I don't want to spoil anything. So I think most of it 1675 01:53:42.319 --> 01:53:45.399 we should see most of it. I've not seen the vast majority of what's 1676 01:53:45.439 --> 01:53:47.640 coming. I did jump to the last level just to see what it was 1677 01:53:47.720 --> 01:53:53.119 like, and I got to the first enemy and he kicked my ass like 1678 01:53:53.159 --> 01:53:55.720 twelve times. I could not get past the first enemy, so I'm like, 1679 01:53:55.760 --> 01:53:58.199 I'm just going to run past him. And then the level just kept 1680 01:53:58.199 --> 01:54:00.600 going and going and going, So I'm like, oh, do I have 1681 01:54:00.680 --> 01:54:03.560 to fight these guys? And so I fought him another about thirty to forty 1682 01:54:03.600 --> 01:54:06.520 times and could not beat him. Now, my character isn't leveled up. 1683 01:54:06.560 --> 01:54:12.520 I think so that that's a problem likely there. But I think that this, 1684 01:54:12.840 --> 01:54:15.800 the amount of bullshit that is still to go in that video game seems 1685 01:54:16.039 --> 01:54:19.760 monumental. It seems like there is going to be a lot to deal with 1686 01:54:19.800 --> 01:54:26.039 still, and he is only on level three. At some point you're like, 1687 01:54:26.399 --> 01:54:29.800 are we liable? At some point where we're like, is this considered 1688 01:54:29.800 --> 01:54:31.760 torture? I mean, listen, if you if you I made him sign 1689 01:54:31.760 --> 01:54:34.359 the paperwork. Yeah, we're paying him right, so exactly. Yeah, 1690 01:54:34.479 --> 01:54:38.039 yeah, yeah, I think we're in the clear. Feel good about that? 1691 01:54:38.119 --> 01:54:41.880 I guess, yeah, I guess you know. Oh yeah, which 1692 01:54:41.960 --> 01:54:45.239 we could we can review that game as well. Yeah, we're gonna try 1693 01:54:45.279 --> 01:54:47.880 to get Tell the Tale of the Sun on Metacritic or our score for that 1694 01:54:47.920 --> 01:54:53.640 after I played through that. Hell yeah too, h yeah we could that 1695 01:54:54.079 --> 01:54:56.880 proper parties. Yeah, yeah, just be like put this up there please. 1696 01:54:56.960 --> 01:55:00.000 Yeah, I had, I had a blurb and everything. Yeah, 1697 01:55:00.000 --> 01:55:01.640 it was. It was a good blurb. It was very very concise, 1698 01:55:01.800 --> 01:55:05.000 very cogent, as folks like to say. I'm someone who's read a lot 1699 01:55:05.000 --> 01:55:08.720 of Metacritic blurbs, so it's like I can just I can fake this. 1700 01:55:09.479 --> 01:55:12.359 Uh No, I just want to play the poker game. But there's no 1701 01:55:12.439 --> 01:55:15.680 time this week. Ye I'm looking at I'm putting that on the Steam deck 1702 01:55:15.720 --> 01:55:19.960 and I'm gonna have come to spend some time. Maybe there's time in between 1703 01:55:20.199 --> 01:55:26.359 after GMM on Thursday, before dump tru. Let's figure it out, Like 1704 01:55:26.439 --> 01:55:29.399 I I got, I just downloaded a couple of Steam Next Nextras demos. 1705 01:55:29.720 --> 01:55:30.920 What did I get here? I got? Oh? Yeah, yeah, 1706 01:55:30.960 --> 01:55:34.880 I actually want to share some of the demos that I downloaded that I intend 1707 01:55:34.920 --> 01:55:44.960 to check out. Checked uh Tales of ken Zera zoo. Uh this was 1708 01:55:45.039 --> 01:55:54.960 uh uh I had the cool two D movement abilities Tarnished Blood, uh Tendril 1709 01:55:55.319 --> 01:55:59.399 and then until then demo and shout out to until then because it takes place 1710 01:55:59.439 --> 01:56:04.600 in the Philippine. Nice. Oh that's cool. It gives it gives mad 1711 01:56:05.199 --> 01:56:11.199 what's it called space, a space for the unbound vibes, and not just 1712 01:56:11.199 --> 01:56:17.039 because it takes place in Southeast Asia. Right. I did download this never 1713 01:56:17.159 --> 01:56:20.840 Grave game, which looks like a I think it's a roguelike Metroid Vana, 1714 01:56:20.960 --> 01:56:25.800 and I can always do more of those. I'm gonna check out this home 1715 01:56:25.800 --> 01:56:28.600 World three demo. I'm someone who played home World one when it first came 1716 01:56:28.640 --> 01:56:31.000 out originally and haven't really touched the series since, so I'm like, it's 1717 01:56:31.039 --> 01:56:35.800 time to get back in home World three. Homeworld' is that like three dimensional 1718 01:56:36.079 --> 01:56:40.840 space, real time strategy game where like the ships can move like anywhere in 1719 01:56:40.920 --> 01:56:44.479 like a tank, and so there's like a lot to consider there, and 1720 01:56:44.560 --> 01:56:46.159 I think I'm gonna point where like that might overwhelm me, but I'm gonna 1721 01:56:46.199 --> 01:56:49.279 give it a shot. And then I got Star Trucker, that four X 1722 01:56:49.319 --> 01:56:56.960 game Millennia, and this mech farming game light Year Frontier that has co op. 1723 01:56:57.680 --> 01:57:00.279 I think maybe we should maybe we could all try to play that. 1724 01:57:00.279 --> 01:57:02.479 That could be that could be a fun one. That game is Actually it's 1725 01:57:02.479 --> 01:57:08.720 out March nineteenth, so we'll be in Pacts team next ends Monday. It's 1726 01:57:08.760 --> 01:57:13.199 it's seven days and there's like a thousand games apparently crazy. Yeah, so 1727 01:57:13.239 --> 01:57:15.560 does that mean we know, Okay, okay, it's up until Monday, 1728 01:57:15.640 --> 01:57:19.920 so maybe maybe Monday, and you know that Monday slide I did finish tail 1729 01:57:19.960 --> 01:57:24.359 of the grub I did. There's a couple of things we're considering for like, 1730 01:57:24.680 --> 01:57:26.479 you know, hey, just we got some time during the week, 1731 01:57:26.479 --> 01:57:28.479 we'll put it in that slot. But maybe we should do that first. 1732 01:57:28.600 --> 01:57:30.560 Yeah, I just want to get a dose in the Giant. We talked 1733 01:57:30.560 --> 01:57:32.840 about that. I think I want to make Dan play that. So, 1734 01:57:32.920 --> 01:57:35.279 but we have time. We have time to get to that. Eventually, 1735 01:57:35.359 --> 01:57:38.760 we had not enough time to play all the things we need to play, 1736 01:57:38.760 --> 01:57:43.960 because other than talking about Suicide Squad, we should probably play Suicide Squad. 1737 01:57:44.399 --> 01:57:48.239 Maybe let's do it. I would I would actually like that. Maybe maybe 1738 01:57:48.359 --> 01:57:54.439 sometime in April or whatever, we give Mike a reprieve and instead of Delight 1739 01:57:54.800 --> 01:57:58.079 Club, it's like Delight Club and he can just play one palate cleanser. 1740 01:57:58.760 --> 01:58:00.479 Okay, we'll see, let's see he earns it perhaps, yeah, oh 1741 01:58:00.520 --> 01:58:03.600 yeah, he has to earn it. He did terrible on Dan Doko there 1742 01:58:03.720 --> 01:58:09.399 last week. Negative points, right, It was embarrassing for everyone involved. 1743 01:58:09.560 --> 01:58:13.520 I don't believe that he would choose to participate in the sport. What was 1744 01:58:13.600 --> 01:58:17.159 sully the name of Dan Doko there exactly. It's making a mockery of the 1745 01:58:17.239 --> 01:58:23.159 sport. Yeah, record would say so respects the respectable institution. And he 1746 01:58:23.319 --> 01:58:27.079 just uh, you know, his stirty feet all over it. Yeah, 1747 01:58:27.079 --> 01:58:29.720 I didn't wipe his feet before he got into the mat like a good boy. 1748 01:58:29.720 --> 01:58:32.560 Disgusting, disgusting folks. We're going to take another quick bricky break and 1749 01:58:32.600 --> 01:58:38.720 then we will be back with electronic mails from you, the folks at home. 1750 01:58:47.000 --> 01:58:51.399 Emails. BombCast Giant bomb dot com is the email address to send your 1751 01:58:51.439 --> 01:58:57.680 emails to write any and everything you want. It's a nice message for the 1752 01:58:57.720 --> 01:59:00.439 crew, I'll send it to them. If it's a bad mess for the 1753 01:59:00.479 --> 01:59:02.840 crew, I'll still send it to them to keep it every height, you 1754 01:59:02.880 --> 01:59:05.840 know, and make sure make sure that everyone's all good and like, all 1755 01:59:05.960 --> 01:59:11.159 right, I'll take this constructive criticism. I'm sorry my face looks this way. 1756 01:59:11.319 --> 01:59:14.439 I'm sorry. And then if it's a coupon code, I'm not going 1757 01:59:14.479 --> 01:59:16.520 to send it to Dan because that man doesn't believe in coupons. But I'll 1758 01:59:16.560 --> 01:59:21.840 make use on cupons. Just send them right to Paul Reichert. Coupon King 1759 01:59:23.079 --> 01:59:27.199 coupon, He's coupon coupon Royalty over there. Wait, how are we all 1760 01:59:27.199 --> 01:59:31.720 saying coupon I just say coupon, coupon. Coupon is like, I don't 1761 01:59:31.720 --> 01:59:34.800 think it's a regional thing. I think it's a generational thing. I mean 1762 01:59:35.439 --> 01:59:41.239 coupon. No one says, No one under forty says coupon. I think 1763 01:59:41.279 --> 01:59:44.359 I used to say coupon because of my parents, and then I think I 1764 01:59:44.399 --> 01:59:48.800 started saying coupon. I say coupon, coupon, coupon for that, I 1765 01:59:48.800 --> 01:59:51.840 think I definitely said I think I definitely used to say cupon. Funny word. 1766 01:59:51.960 --> 01:59:56.199 Huh yeah, Man, you're saying it a lot. It makes me 1767 01:59:56.239 --> 01:59:59.880 think like I'm a mogle, you know, like coupo, but likeuo coupon. 1768 02:00:00.640 --> 02:00:03.520 Oh my god. Final Fantasy seven Rebirth, cut the check, like 1769 02:00:03.720 --> 02:00:08.800 just google coupons. That's probably a thing already, Right, make us all 1770 02:00:08.800 --> 02:00:13.640 be Googles. Let's all voice Googles in your game. I'll say coupo so 1771 02:00:13.720 --> 02:00:16.439 many times. I'll say for free, you know what? All right, 1772 02:00:16.479 --> 02:00:19.399 next time we see Ben, we gotta we gotta like juice the squeeze and 1773 02:00:19.479 --> 02:00:25.640 squeeze these the squeeze. I mean it's when it comes to Ben Starr. 1774 02:00:25.640 --> 02:00:29.680 It absolutely you can say juice the squeeze. What does that mean though it 1775 02:00:29.880 --> 02:00:31.720 means something else. It's like, yo, we gotta juice the pressure that. 1776 02:00:32.199 --> 02:00:35.560 It's what happens when you get a Hong Kong in like a dragon infinite 1777 02:00:35.600 --> 02:00:39.680 wealth. Have you met, yes, but no one does because you just 1778 02:00:39.720 --> 02:00:42.399 walk in. You're like, hey, you get yourself Hong koked and let's 1779 02:00:42.439 --> 02:00:45.199 I think I know what it means, but they don't. They do not 1780 02:00:45.319 --> 02:00:47.319 explain it. I think I know what a Hong Kong means. Listen, 1781 02:00:47.319 --> 02:00:49.960 you go into a hotel room with someone to get Hong Kong. It's a 1782 02:00:50.000 --> 02:00:55.640 good time. Let me be a moingle and Kingdom hearts for that's all I'm 1783 02:00:55.680 --> 02:01:00.800 asking for. Ple me be a coupon in your diary. Did you guys 1784 02:01:00.800 --> 02:01:03.279 see that clip of Sto like Mike seeing the cat thing in Final Fantasy Set? 1785 02:01:03.439 --> 02:01:08.079 No, I didn't see you. It's like it's like something something emotional 1786 02:01:08.159 --> 02:01:12.319 is happening and and someone's in trouble and then the cat walks up and just 1787 02:01:12.359 --> 02:01:15.760 goes, what is that is that thing? It's very good, I reckon 1788 02:01:15.840 --> 02:01:23.000 I'll retweet it again. I recommend everyone watch it because his joint confusion is 1789 02:01:20.840 --> 02:01:26.960 that Yeah, I don't know. I think he just he might eventually say 1790 02:01:26.960 --> 02:01:29.119 that, but at first he's just like, what is that? Because it 1791 02:01:29.159 --> 02:01:30.920 comes out of nowhere? Yeah, Cone, just put it in uh or 1792 02:01:30.960 --> 02:01:33.720 Cone just put it in chat. All right, I can watch it later 1793 02:01:33.760 --> 02:01:40.199 if you guys want cool, beautiful beautiful gosh, all right, okay emails. 1794 02:01:41.079 --> 02:01:46.000 First email comes from Jerry in Wisconsin. Thank you Jerry for putting the 1795 02:01:46.000 --> 02:01:50.279 state you're in in parentheses for me, because I couldn't tell you what w 1796 02:01:50.439 --> 02:01:56.039 I is. I would have said wyky key for some reason. That's no, 1797 02:01:56.239 --> 02:01:59.960 it's that's the turbo Sean state. Oh okay, okay, shouts out 1798 02:02:00.199 --> 02:02:08.600 Shawn's neighbor bombers. Who do you think finishes their story first? George Railroad, 1799 02:02:08.640 --> 02:02:15.399 Martin Gordon Freeman or Cody Rhoads. I can only I can only lend 1800 02:02:15.479 --> 02:02:18.840 my thoughts to two thirds of this. I know you're a big you also 1801 02:02:18.920 --> 02:02:26.359 want Cody, right, No, who's this railroad person? I'm kidding Like 1802 02:02:26.439 --> 02:02:28.399 that actually did throw me for a loop for a second. I'm like, 1803 02:02:28.439 --> 02:02:30.520 oh, oh, sorry, it's just a reflex now to say railroad. 1804 02:02:30.920 --> 02:02:35.000 No, no, yeah, no problem. I think it legit goes in 1805 02:02:35.039 --> 02:02:40.520 the order, God, it goes Cody Roads. Then George R. R. 1806 02:02:40.600 --> 02:02:45.520 Martin and then Gordon Freeman never finishes like twenty years. Yeah, they 1807 02:02:45.680 --> 02:02:47.520 do a half like three and like twenty years. Microsoft, Microsoft, in 1808 02:02:47.600 --> 02:02:55.720 their purchase of Valve will finish it. Now you're getting it. I'm subscribing 1809 02:02:55.760 --> 02:03:02.000 to your substack. I know, Listen, Cody Rhodes is going to finish 1810 02:03:02.000 --> 02:03:06.760 the story eventually. I do think that they want to like go for years 1811 02:03:06.920 --> 02:03:11.640 still with all this. Now whether or not they're able to actually pull that 1812 02:03:11.680 --> 02:03:15.520 off will be a big question, but so far it's been fine to good. 1813 02:03:15.119 --> 02:03:19.600 Yeah. I just I a Slash film put out an article saying that 1814 02:03:19.720 --> 02:03:24.640 the Rock is trying to black Adam the WWE, and then I just definitely 1815 02:03:24.680 --> 02:03:29.239 is that just caused so much psychic damage to me? But they could, 1816 02:03:29.560 --> 02:03:31.439 like, listen, yes, he's trying to do that, but that is 1817 02:03:31.800 --> 02:03:40.760 good for heat and having like someone be an authority figure taking advantage of their 1818 02:03:40.760 --> 02:03:45.119 position actually be the heel. If they can make that change, I think 1819 02:03:45.159 --> 02:03:51.279 that works very easily and that keeps the Roman storyline going. Maybe I'm starting 1820 02:03:51.279 --> 02:03:54.840 to believe Dan when he said that they might want to keep the belt on 1821 02:03:55.079 --> 02:03:58.960 Roman until he actually does beat the record and has has had it longer than 1822 02:03:59.000 --> 02:04:01.159 anyone ever, and that would be like twenty twenty eight or something. Oh 1823 02:04:01.199 --> 02:04:05.800 my god, just I know. But listen, we're in twenty twenty four 1824 02:04:05.840 --> 02:04:10.439 and they could they could get there. I think that belt doesn't matter anymore. 1825 02:04:10.600 --> 02:04:14.199 It doesn't. It hasn't mattered in years. Yeah, yeah, that's 1826 02:04:14.199 --> 02:04:17.159 that's fair. That's yeah, okay, right, but what about the Oilers 1827 02:04:17.680 --> 02:04:24.319 making history tonight and possibly beating the consecutive win They're very good at hockey. 1828 02:04:24.560 --> 02:04:29.439 It turns out it's this scary team being even scarier than ever. Those fuckers. 1829 02:04:29.800 --> 02:04:30.600 You know, you know it's not going got a fuck. Wait till 1830 02:04:30.600 --> 02:04:35.600 Saturday for another Red Wings game. You know that wrestling has kind of re 1831 02:04:35.800 --> 02:04:41.439 entered the mainstream. When has it? Yes, I don't think it's ever 1832 02:04:41.520 --> 02:04:45.520 left. I think it's very much part of everything. I wouldn't suck people 1833 02:04:45.560 --> 02:04:47.680 didn't talk about it, Yeah much when you have, like you know, 1834 02:04:48.239 --> 02:04:54.359 George Kittle, who has like a big game to worry about because he's going 1835 02:04:54.439 --> 02:04:58.000 to be in the Super Bowl, and he's instead of worrying about that, 1836 02:04:58.359 --> 02:05:02.199 he's worrying about Cody and wrestle media instead. Yeah, that's that's cool. 1837 02:05:02.279 --> 02:05:05.439 I get George Kittle's not gonna do shit anyhow. I'm still mad at him 1838 02:05:05.439 --> 02:05:09.239 because I missed out on a lot of money because of him. I told 1839 02:05:09.319 --> 02:05:14.399 you I watched half of The Iron Claw last night, and I'm you know, 1840 02:05:14.399 --> 02:05:17.960 I'm watching it with Stace and you know, she knows next to nothing 1841 02:05:17.960 --> 02:05:21.680 about wrestling, and me hanging out with her. I'm like, I'm I'm 1842 02:05:21.720 --> 02:05:26.840 like a pro, Like you know, you're welcome. I'm no, no, 1843 02:05:27.359 --> 02:05:30.279 look, I'm gonna take credit myself for this because this is just like 1844 02:05:30.800 --> 02:05:36.439 when you have five years of an obsession, you retained some Stacey. Shoot, 1845 02:05:36.840 --> 02:05:40.159 no, I didn't get that deep into the weeds with her. But 1846 02:05:40.279 --> 02:05:44.319 like there's a scene, like you know, it's we're like halfway through and 1847 02:05:44.359 --> 02:05:46.800 they're like, you know, it's the part where like they're they're conditioning, 1848 02:05:48.479 --> 02:05:53.840 uh Zac Efron's character to like be in contention for the belt. Right, 1849 02:05:54.840 --> 02:05:57.359 did you guys see this? You saw The Iron Clay. I haven't seen 1850 02:05:57.399 --> 02:06:00.000 it yet, but I mean I know the story. So they're conditioning, 1851 02:06:00.159 --> 02:06:03.439 they're getting him ready for like the NWA title belt, right, And they 1852 02:06:03.439 --> 02:06:10.960 do a really good job of like comparing winning a belt in wrestling to like 1853 02:06:11.039 --> 02:06:14.359 getting a promotion, right, Like that's basically what it is. It's like, 1854 02:06:14.520 --> 02:06:15.359 it's a promotion, right, there's a lot of confidence in you, 1855 02:06:15.399 --> 02:06:23.560 and they say you're ready for the next step. So she's watching this match 1856 02:06:23.640 --> 02:06:26.960 and she's and she's like, you know, he's got to win this match. 1857 02:06:27.000 --> 02:06:30.079 And I'm like, well, what do you mean. She's like, 1858 02:06:30.359 --> 02:06:33.600 he's got to win, like he has to prove himself to the rest of 1859 02:06:33.640 --> 02:06:38.640 the of the wrestling community that like he's good enough. So if he beats 1860 02:06:38.680 --> 02:06:42.239 this guy, he's then next in line for her for a contention. I'm 1861 02:06:42.239 --> 02:06:44.079 not just like, oh, hell yeah, I'm like no, no, 1862 02:06:44.079 --> 02:06:45.800 no, no, no, what do you mean? I like he pause 1863 02:06:46.199 --> 02:06:49.760 on the movie he turned ninety degrees, and I'm just like, what are 1864 02:06:49.760 --> 02:06:54.039 you talking about? What do you mean? This is all it's it's not 1865 02:06:54.239 --> 02:06:58.439 it's all arranged. Like they even go into great detail about how it's arranged. 1866 02:06:58.479 --> 02:07:00.079 And she's just like, no, I think this one is. I 1867 02:07:00.079 --> 02:07:08.439 think this one this damn it. She goes, I think this one is, 1868 02:07:08.600 --> 02:07:12.479 like doesn't play by the by the pre arranged rules. I love I 1869 02:07:12.520 --> 02:07:15.960 love this And I'm just like but then and then seen right after they like 1870 02:07:15.039 --> 02:07:17.960 totally are like, oh that was a great like why didn't you get up 1871 02:07:17.960 --> 02:07:21.479 when you should have? Like, and it totally erased all of that illusion 1872 02:07:21.520 --> 02:07:26.880 for her. And she looked at me and she was just like, Okay, 1873 02:07:26.920 --> 02:07:30.439 I guess you're right. But but but did she really say all right, 1874 02:07:30.479 --> 02:07:31.960 I got work. Brother, No, she didn't say it like that, 1875 02:07:32.000 --> 02:07:34.800 but she said it in her own way, in her own way, 1876 02:07:34.920 --> 02:07:38.800 and I thought that was really awesome. Uh, movies, all right, 1877 02:07:39.359 --> 02:07:43.319 I mean, listen, that is we all know it's it's arranged. But 1878 02:07:43.439 --> 02:07:45.399 in the moment where you're like, who cares? You want to believe? 1879 02:07:45.560 --> 02:07:49.640 Of course believe? So of course that's great, That's fantastic. It's a 1880 02:07:49.680 --> 02:07:53.520 play, right, it's a play. Enjoy the play. Enjoy this some 1881 02:07:53.640 --> 02:07:59.399 sweaty play any other TV show? Yes, enjoy this very sweaty play. 1882 02:07:59.680 --> 02:08:07.560 Yes, sweaty plays plays the new Giant Bomb feature. Next email comes from 1883 02:08:07.640 --> 02:08:11.680 Brandon, Hello, Bomb crew, I'm writing to see if you could wish 1884 02:08:11.800 --> 02:08:15.680 someone special to meet a happy birthday. Emily's birthdays this week, and it 1885 02:08:15.720 --> 02:08:18.479 would mean a lot if you could tell her happy birthday on the BombCast this 1886 02:08:18.520 --> 02:08:22.000 week. Bonus points if she can get a special shout out from Jeff Backlar. 1887 02:08:22.239 --> 02:08:26.560 Oh my gosh, we me. You want me to to be the 1888 02:08:26.560 --> 02:08:31.960 one to give out a special happy birthday to Emily. Yeah, I could 1889 02:08:31.960 --> 02:08:37.279 do that. Happy Birthday, Emily, special shout out to you on this 1890 02:08:37.399 --> 02:08:41.039 wondrous day. I don't know how old you are, but I'm sure whatever 1891 02:08:41.079 --> 02:08:43.920 age it is, could and could she get a kiss on the cheek maybe 1892 02:08:43.920 --> 02:08:50.000 even you know it's twenty twenty four and uh, you know what, you 1893 02:08:50.000 --> 02:08:54.479 know you're being careful, You're right. I'll ask you if you'd like one, 1894 02:08:54.800 --> 02:08:56.600 I could send you on on a postcard that can be arranged. Just 1895 02:08:58.199 --> 02:09:00.880 while you're listening to this, take your phone and if you're watching it on 1896 02:09:00.920 --> 02:09:03.119 your phone, just next to that and just get it up right up? 1897 02:09:03.399 --> 02:09:11.319 Is it on your cheek yet? Okay? There you go, ch it's 1898 02:09:11.359 --> 02:09:16.439 your it's European. There, there you go, there you Sascoe birthday to 1899 02:09:16.479 --> 02:09:20.279 you. Nope, that's one line I will not cross. It's a bridge 1900 02:09:20.319 --> 02:09:24.359 too far. I'm not going to play into that bullshit. Happy birthday. 1901 02:09:24.079 --> 02:09:28.039 I hope it's a great one. Now put your phone on the top of 1902 02:09:28.079 --> 02:09:31.199 your hand. There you go, Thank you, Happy birthday. You you 1903 02:09:31.319 --> 02:09:35.239 kissed the inside of someone's palm. I don't know, like on top of 1904 02:09:35.279 --> 02:09:39.760 your hand, you know, I got it? Yeah? Okay, Happy 1905 02:09:39.760 --> 02:09:43.600 birthday, Emily, Happy birthday. Uh. Next email comes from Jeff in 1906 02:09:43.680 --> 02:09:48.039 Quebec City. Quick, there's no time. Gujima has personally d m you 1907 02:09:48.359 --> 02:09:50.319 and asked for an idea to add to his next desk strainding two trailer. 1908 02:09:50.520 --> 02:09:54.960 What do you suggest I go for a bass bass guitar wielding antagonist for an 1909 02:09:56.000 --> 02:09:58.600 all that Scott Pilgrim style battle keep on rocking the free world? Jeff from 1910 02:09:58.640 --> 02:10:07.439 Quebec's Okay, it's a boy, but he's the president, like president boy, 1911 02:10:07.720 --> 02:10:11.960 just like like boss baby, but the president. But yes, boss 1912 02:10:11.000 --> 02:10:15.000 baby, but like not a baby, so a little bit higher, and 1913 02:10:15.039 --> 02:10:16.279 not a boss a president, so a little bit higher. So it's just 1914 02:10:16.319 --> 02:10:20.800 amplified and every got it, got it, got it, got it good? 1915 02:10:20.640 --> 02:10:26.119 Good. I like, we are not that far away tangentially and metaphysically 1916 02:10:26.479 --> 02:10:33.199 that far away from just like a pinball machine becoming and like reanimated and being 1917 02:10:33.239 --> 02:10:37.319 alive and a person and in this game. Uh, for whatever reason, 1918 02:10:37.520 --> 02:10:41.159 So do that for me? Be fun? That would be fun. I'd 1919 02:10:41.159 --> 02:10:43.279 like to see that Okay, yeah, keep going, Yes, sorry. 1920 02:10:43.960 --> 02:10:52.439 I want Dao Kajima to refined and rediscover William Shakespeare. And I want him 1921 02:10:52.479 --> 02:11:01.560 to make Romeo and Juliet, but specifically make Nomeo and Juliet. Yeah, 1922 02:11:01.600 --> 02:11:07.399 of course, Okay, I need to find out what his whole Paddington arc 1923 02:11:07.600 --> 02:11:11.760 was about a couple of years ago, Like how how has Paddington affected him 1924 02:11:11.840 --> 02:11:18.680 as a as a storyteller? I need to know. Yeah, I need 1925 02:11:18.720 --> 02:11:22.520 to know. That's a good question, and we can only hypothesize, right, 1926 02:11:22.560 --> 02:11:26.239 Like what can we even do? Right? I want to see, 1927 02:11:26.760 --> 02:11:30.680 Yeah, I want to see his house. I want to see I want 1928 02:11:30.680 --> 02:11:33.479 to like go in his house and just be like whata you know? Like 1929 02:11:35.880 --> 02:11:39.560 what has he decided to surround himself with? Why do you have the apple 1930 02:11:39.680 --> 02:11:46.720 pie tree from McDonald's, right, Like, I need to know. It 1931 02:11:46.760 --> 02:11:48.720 would be great if it was just like an old McDonald's play place and he's 1932 02:11:48.760 --> 02:11:52.960 got the the Hamburger prison thing the kids got trapped in, uh, just 1933 02:11:54.000 --> 02:11:56.520 in his house. That'd be very cool. God, what is the deal 1934 02:11:56.520 --> 02:12:00.479 with that puppet? I need to know? Uh? Okay, So, 1935 02:12:00.600 --> 02:12:05.520 yes, is Kojama's bullshit still fun to you? Yeah? I think it's 1936 02:12:05.560 --> 02:12:09.239 still fun. Yeah. In this for me, in this point where we're 1937 02:12:09.239 --> 02:12:11.199 getting the trailers, it's one million percent fun. It's a great ride. 1938 02:12:11.359 --> 02:12:15.640 Mike Manatti's very over it. He is rolling his eyes a lot at all 1939 02:12:15.720 --> 02:12:20.239 this stuff. Is he what's his position that it's just like a shark? 1940 02:12:20.520 --> 02:12:22.279 Yeah, ham Sean both like eye rolly is the best way of putting it. 1941 02:12:22.319 --> 02:12:24.920 But yeah, jump the shark. This guy loves the smell of his 1942 02:12:24.920 --> 02:12:28.199 own farts, And I'm like, I don't. I don't think I deny 1943 02:12:28.359 --> 02:12:31.199 any of them. That's true. He absolutely does love his own farts. 1944 02:12:31.439 --> 02:12:33.960 He loves his own farts. Uh. And and yet I'm still having a 1945 02:12:35.000 --> 02:12:37.720 really good time with a guitar guy that is wearing a mask and then has 1946 02:12:37.720 --> 02:12:41.359 the joker makeup on underneath, and like, of course it's fucking yeah. 1947 02:12:41.760 --> 02:12:46.119 And up until now, uh Kojima was like one of these people that could 1948 02:12:46.279 --> 02:12:50.760 sort of like get a pass for all this. But apparently we have people 1949 02:12:50.279 --> 02:12:56.119 standing in the way of that mat Yes exactly, they're yucking his youm and 1950 02:12:56.359 --> 02:13:01.399 I don't stand for it. How many autorn right on Earth could get away 1951 02:13:01.640 --> 02:13:07.319 with what Kojima gets away with. We were all we all mutually, universally 1952 02:13:07.359 --> 02:13:11.600 agreed that like, you know what, there's one cat that's gonna get to 1953 02:13:11.720 --> 02:13:13.479 have their cake and eat it too. And his name is Kachima, and 1954 02:13:13.479 --> 02:13:18.239 that's okay, and we're all okay with it, but no two rotten apples 1955 02:13:18.239 --> 02:13:24.640 in the bunch, and you I chose my words carefully, okay, backler 1956 02:13:24.039 --> 02:13:30.000 on agree. I love the idea that Sony is giving this man money and 1957 02:13:30.039 --> 02:13:31.840 he comes back to them with like, well, he plays the guitar and 1958 02:13:31.840 --> 02:13:35.159 it electrifies people, and he has this makeup on, but he wears a 1959 02:13:35.159 --> 02:13:39.359 mask over it. Sometimes it's like they say, right, and they have 1960 02:13:39.439 --> 02:13:43.399 to just be like, oh, you're a genius. How many people? 1961 02:13:43.199 --> 02:13:48.199 Right? How many people find themselves in that position? Right? And watch 1962 02:13:48.199 --> 02:13:52.479 someone's there if they are just making their harmless bullshit fucking let him go to 1963 02:13:52.479 --> 02:13:56.319 town, right, Very very few people. And not only that, but 1964 02:13:56.479 --> 02:14:03.560 like he is also convinced very influential people in Hollywood that he's this sort of 1965 02:14:03.600 --> 02:14:07.479 like cryptic genius and they all line up, they all line up to go 1966 02:14:07.520 --> 02:14:13.039 to the circus and they're just like, pour your bullshit all over my head. 1967 02:14:13.119 --> 02:14:16.319 I don't care if it's not gonna come out. I just I just 1968 02:14:16.479 --> 02:14:18.720 need to be a part of I need to touch you creatively. You know, 1969 02:14:20.319 --> 02:14:22.680 it's it's it's the Emperor's close. It's the Emperor's do close. And 1970 02:14:22.680 --> 02:14:26.800 and uh I it's not a bad thing. It's fun. It's hilarious to 1971 02:14:26.800 --> 02:14:28.640 see Jordan Pele have to go up there and be like, man, I 1972 02:14:28.680 --> 02:14:35.039 love metal gearsology Jordan Peel for a half y hour on this stage and was 1973 02:14:35.159 --> 02:14:41.439 just like, I'm garbage compared to this man. You know, It's it's 1974 02:14:41.520 --> 02:14:45.960 awesome. Insists that he called me his bitch, because that's that's what it 1975 02:14:46.079 --> 02:14:50.279 is. So sick, it's so sick that this dude has this power, 1976 02:14:50.399 --> 02:14:54.079 has this death grip on so many things. It's awesome. I think. 1977 02:14:54.800 --> 02:14:58.119 I think the lesson to learn from this, folks is, you know, 1978 02:14:58.199 --> 02:15:03.600 if you're if you're gonna do anything creative, don't don't try to explain it. 1979 02:15:03.640 --> 02:15:07.920 Don't even attempt to explain it. Yeah, exactly, be as cryptic 1980 02:15:07.399 --> 02:15:13.800 and incomprehensible as possible. It's not plotholes. It's just how you write, 1981 02:15:13.039 --> 02:15:16.439 right, and like, especially if you're like he's pretty good at like eventually 1982 02:15:16.800 --> 02:15:20.319 patching his plot holes. To the way that make it look like it was 1983 02:15:20.359 --> 02:15:22.880 all planned, and I think everyone knows it wasn't, and he kind of 1984 02:15:22.920 --> 02:15:26.079 like he comes back around, he fixes things, but that just makes it 1985 02:15:26.119 --> 02:15:28.279 more fun. When he starts creating these massive plot holes, You're like, 1986 02:15:28.319 --> 02:15:31.239 oh, I can't wait to see how he jumps that gap. It's it's 1987 02:15:31.279 --> 02:15:35.119 all kind of just part of the charm of Kojima. I think, uh, 1988 02:15:35.159 --> 02:15:39.920 he's the only one taking it seriously. Yeah, there's that too, 1989 02:15:41.000 --> 02:15:43.119 which is amazing, which is almost like a Nathan Fielder thing, right, 1990 02:15:43.279 --> 02:15:46.000 Like yeah, Like when I say he's good at like cover his plot, 1991 02:15:46.039 --> 02:15:48.439 I mean he's good at like coming with explanations like, well, I guess 1992 02:15:48.439 --> 02:15:52.079 that's an explanation for why that arm was haunted or whatever. Sure, let's 1993 02:15:52.119 --> 02:15:56.399 you sleep at night wonderful, you know exactly, Like, yeah, it's 1994 02:15:56.039 --> 02:16:00.680 patently absurd, of course, but I kind of like that he at least 1995 02:16:00.680 --> 02:16:05.119 has fun explanation. You know what if Yeah, I don't want them to 1996 02:16:05.159 --> 02:16:09.039 explain the puppet anymore. No, we have everything we need to know. 1997 02:16:09.760 --> 02:16:13.079 Yeah, yeah, right exactly. And then like, why does LEAs do 1998 02:16:13.279 --> 02:16:18.880 have like neck arms, neck arms, scarf arms, scarms because they're fucking 1999 02:16:18.960 --> 02:16:24.399 cool. That's starms Jesus, you know, I just yeah, I just 2000 02:16:24.439 --> 02:16:30.760 want to be able to fly in the wall in Kajima's house one day to 2001 02:16:30.760 --> 02:16:33.639 see what one of those production meetings is. Like imagine, I want everyone 2002 02:16:33.680 --> 02:16:37.079 to deposit this theory all right, or this this thought train. I'm gonna 2003 02:16:37.239 --> 02:16:41.200 throw us all on. What if he's actually good at making movies? What 2004 02:16:41.360 --> 02:16:45.479 happens then? I don't know, It's it's fun. I mean, like, 2005 02:16:46.440 --> 02:16:48.879 you know, we we were in a situation at the Game of Words 2006 02:16:48.879 --> 02:16:52.159 where we were like met some Kojama people for a second, remember that, 2007 02:16:52.760 --> 02:16:54.559 and we were just and I was and in the back of my head, 2008 02:16:54.559 --> 02:16:58.159 I kept thinking, like you're like in the factory. You're like in the 2009 02:16:58.200 --> 02:17:01.360 magic factory, Like what what's what is that? Like? Like what's in 2010 02:17:01.399 --> 02:17:05.559 your like what's going on in your day to day magician? Is there a 2011 02:17:05.600 --> 02:17:09.840 metal detector to get in? Is there a door to get in? It's 2012 02:17:09.879 --> 02:17:13.000 like you're the closest person to working at the Wonka factory. We're gonna have 2013 02:17:13.440 --> 02:17:16.600 you know, like, oh, no, actual Wonka. He is the 2014 02:17:16.639 --> 02:17:24.120 Willy Wonka is next thing, so next thing, you know, just like 2015 02:17:24.159 --> 02:17:28.239 Willy Wonka Kajima's gonna say, oh yeah, I'm a literate I don't know 2016 02:17:28.280 --> 02:17:35.520 how to read or write. He's like Charlie Day from higlyph Man, this 2017 02:17:35.520 --> 02:17:43.559 guy can code. Yeah, all right. Two more emails. This one's 2018 02:17:43.559 --> 02:17:46.920 from Cooper and San Jose shouts out to you, Cooper, morning, folks, 2019 02:17:46.959 --> 02:17:50.479 I have a question for the keyboard King of New Jersey. I've been 2020 02:17:50.559 --> 02:17:54.840 using an old Razor keyboard for the past seventeen years and figured it was time 2021 02:17:54.879 --> 02:17:58.200 to upgrade. I do a bit of woodworking in my free time, and 2022 02:17:58.239 --> 02:18:03.280 I was wondering I should make a wooden mechanical keyboard in matching keycaps, as 2023 02:18:03.319 --> 02:18:07.600 it's been done before, and if so, do you know what kind of 2024 02:18:07.600 --> 02:18:11.280 switches would pair well with it? I'm looking for something that gives a solid, 2025 02:18:11.440 --> 02:18:15.520 hefty click in feedback, but no, absolutely nothing about keyboards, so 2026 02:18:15.559 --> 02:18:18.079 I figured I should ask the expert. Thanks for all your help, much 2027 02:18:18.159 --> 02:18:26.040 love, Cooper in San Jose. Wait wait, oh my gosh, Oh 2028 02:18:26.079 --> 02:18:31.920 my gosh, Cooper, what are we doing, Bud? So, Okay, 2029 02:18:33.120 --> 02:18:41.799 there's definitely been wooden cases for keyboards, right, and I think when 2030 02:18:41.799 --> 02:18:45.319 you bet, there's been almost all wooden like builds that you'll see on YouTube 2031 02:18:45.319 --> 02:18:46.760 of like, hey, can this work? I bet someone's done all wood 2032 02:18:48.280 --> 02:18:52.639 and they've been commercialized too. They've been just like commercially manufactured. Like yeah, 2033 02:18:52.760 --> 02:18:58.200 especially there's a there's like a there's like a Chinese brand that has done 2034 02:18:58.239 --> 02:19:01.360 a bunch of them. But anyway, like, yeah, it'll sound really 2035 02:19:01.360 --> 02:19:05.319 good. I would suggest working with a very heavy wood, especially if you're 2036 02:19:05.399 --> 02:19:09.520 the sound profile you're looking for is like deeper. The only thing. So 2037 02:19:09.920 --> 02:19:15.440 what I would do is I would find like the PCB that you want this 2038 02:19:15.520 --> 02:19:20.600 to fit with, right, so build the case around the PCB that you 2039 02:19:20.760 --> 02:19:24.520 want your form factor to be for the keyboard, and I think you'll be 2040 02:19:24.639 --> 02:19:28.879 fine. Making a case is pretty easy. Again, you just have to 2041 02:19:28.879 --> 02:19:33.440 like leave tolerances in room for all the other junk that goes inside of a 2042 02:19:33.520 --> 02:19:39.479 keyboard to fit. You know. I'm also happy to help you out with 2043 02:19:39.520 --> 02:19:41.559 this on the side if you want to write back and we can get a 2044 02:19:41.600 --> 02:19:46.040 conversation going. For switches, if you want clickie switches, I don't know, 2045 02:19:46.079 --> 02:19:48.040 like for me, for my taste, a clickie switch would almost be 2046 02:19:48.120 --> 02:19:54.319 a waste in a wooden board because you almost want to have the board's natural 2047 02:19:54.440 --> 02:19:58.000 sound be the thing you fear and not the actual clicking. So maybe like 2048 02:19:58.040 --> 02:20:03.840 a know, a linear or like a light tactile would work better in that, 2049 02:20:03.959 --> 02:20:07.440 but again that's all preference. But yeah, and there's plenty of key 2050 02:20:07.440 --> 02:20:11.799 cap sets that would match some sort of deep mahogany case that that I'm envisioning 2051 02:20:11.799 --> 02:20:15.079 for you right now. I love this. I love this idea. I 2052 02:20:15.159 --> 02:20:18.920 also don't know like how well certain woods cut, so you probably you would 2053 02:20:18.920 --> 02:20:22.319 know better being a wood person. But yeah, that's my advice. Heavy 2054 02:20:22.360 --> 02:20:28.680 ass wood, like real heavy ass wood that and that can get really finely 2055 02:20:28.120 --> 02:20:31.840 sliced up for what you're gonna need to do, and then pick that PCB, 2056 02:20:33.200 --> 02:20:35.000 which you can find, you know, pretty much anywhere, and build 2057 02:20:35.000 --> 02:20:41.559 it around that beauty. Someone sent a link of a walnut solid wood and 2058 02:20:41.600 --> 02:20:46.520 resin backlit artists and key cap for the wasd Aarow space bar key set and 2059 02:20:46.600 --> 02:20:50.000 for just those I think it's sixteen dollars. Is that so those are the 2060 02:20:50.079 --> 02:20:54.239 key caps? Yes, the key caps? Yeah? No, I mean 2061 02:20:54.520 --> 02:20:58.360 I think for the space bard and the arrow key Oh sorry, right, 2062 02:20:58.440 --> 02:21:01.319 so well, yeah, you know what that is, right, Yeah, 2063 02:21:01.360 --> 02:21:03.680 yeah, it's and it's still pretty expensive, I think, yeah, like 2064 02:21:03.719 --> 02:21:09.280 you would probably only put Yeah, like you would want a regular GMK set 2065 02:21:09.399 --> 02:21:13.799 or PBTs whatever it is set for that for all the legends, right, 2066 02:21:13.840 --> 02:21:18.600 and all the alphas whatever. But you could have specialized wooden ones, especially 2067 02:21:18.600 --> 02:21:22.200 for like the escape key too. I see something really really nice. Uh. 2068 02:21:22.719 --> 02:21:28.399 Envisioning something real nice gets you something real, man. I have Like, 2069 02:21:28.879 --> 02:21:31.200 where the fuck is it? It's it's down there. I have Like 2070 02:21:31.280 --> 02:21:35.879 the one of the first ones I ever built was like a cheap wood keyboard. 2071 02:21:35.000 --> 02:21:41.200 It's like it's almost like you gotta oil that. I don't think, 2072 02:21:41.239 --> 02:21:43.120 so, I don't think you need to oil it. Maybe you could. 2073 02:21:43.520 --> 02:21:46.719 It's almost like bamboo, but bamboo's very light. Yeah, I mean if 2074 02:21:46.719 --> 02:21:50.840 it's if it's like the we're talking about, like the wood finish, like 2075 02:21:50.840 --> 02:21:54.239 they're saying that these key caps have resin on them and so you wouldn't eat 2076 02:21:54.600 --> 02:21:58.239 oh, because yeah, so like maybe like it's like it's like it's I 2077 02:21:58.319 --> 02:22:01.159 think of like a tooth, where like the tooth that's self is like the 2078 02:22:01.239 --> 02:22:03.680 wood, but on top is like a covering on it, so you wouldn't 2079 02:22:03.719 --> 02:22:07.799 need Yeah, I guess the resins on top is what I'm imagining. Okay 2080 02:22:09.040 --> 02:22:11.559 maybe, but anyway, Yeah, I love this idea. I love this 2081 02:22:11.680 --> 02:22:16.600 project. I'd love to provide more advice if it will help you. There 2082 02:22:16.600 --> 02:22:18.399 you go, There you go. Last email of the show comes from our 2083 02:22:18.440 --> 02:22:24.120 dear friend Nathan from Tumwater, Washington. Nathan, Right, Sin, what's 2084 02:22:24.159 --> 02:22:28.799 the longest time you've you've played video games in one sitting? Oh? I 2085 02:22:31.360 --> 02:22:37.360 in college, I played Countershike for like eight hours. I played a couple 2086 02:22:37.399 --> 02:22:43.680 of years ago, I did my marathon stream and it was just me playing 2087 02:22:43.040 --> 02:22:48.520 Pokemon Legends Archaeus for twelve hours. Oh my god. That's I think that's 2088 02:22:48.520 --> 02:22:52.079 got to be the longest I played any one game for one sitting. I 2089 02:22:52.079 --> 02:22:58.760 think I might have done like maybe six to eight hours of Resident Evil five 2090 02:22:58.879 --> 02:23:03.719 with a homie mm hmm. Yeah. But most recently it's playing Blatro for 2091 02:23:03.799 --> 02:23:09.479 like three hours when I should be sleeping or working. Do you guys have 2092 02:23:09.600 --> 02:23:15.239 like a like? I know, I have a very specific time threshold now, 2093 02:23:15.680 --> 02:23:18.239 Like if I'm playing a game for more than two hours now, I 2094 02:23:18.280 --> 02:23:24.799 think my threshold is like two hours now sometimes though, Yeah, if it's 2095 02:23:24.799 --> 02:23:26.799 a game I don't notice it, I can probably go for about like jam 2096 02:23:26.840 --> 02:23:30.879 was saying three four hours pretty easily actually, but it's hard to find that 2097 02:23:30.920 --> 02:23:33.520 amount of time these days, right exactly, like one of my fine, 2098 02:23:33.600 --> 02:23:35.079 Yeah, when am I even finding that length of time? But I do 2099 02:23:35.159 --> 02:23:39.879 feel a physical and mental wall, like even when I still do my call 2100 02:23:39.000 --> 02:23:43.920 duty bullshit, like that's also a bit of an exhausting game. Perhaps that's 2101 02:23:43.920 --> 02:23:46.680 not a good example, but I do feel like I, without a doubt, 2102 02:23:48.159 --> 02:23:50.040 bump up against the ceiling where I'm just like, my brain needs to 2103 02:23:50.040 --> 02:23:54.360 do something else right now. We can't be doing this, Yeah, I 2104 02:23:54.399 --> 02:24:00.239 think so. I didn't feel that at all with Blatro unfortunately, or is 2105 02:24:00.239 --> 02:24:03.319 probably like more is it more passive? Right, it's more sort of like 2106 02:24:03.799 --> 02:24:07.840 not that it's not it's like numbers go up type. Yeah, you know, 2107 02:24:07.040 --> 02:24:11.639 like uh yes, there is strategy, but you can kind of like 2108 02:24:11.680 --> 02:24:16.559 go into autopilot in your own head. But like a dragon time melter, 2109 02:24:18.040 --> 02:24:24.079 especially when you get to done Doco Island and Prince of Persia an absolute time 2110 02:24:24.120 --> 02:24:26.520 melter. Yeah right, Like I did not notice the time go by, 2111 02:24:28.159 --> 02:24:33.719 sure, but persona three reload, I felt the time go by like increasingly. 2112 02:24:35.680 --> 02:24:37.399 Yeah, all right, I like you're playing that, not me. 2113 02:24:39.200 --> 02:24:43.319 I I also get tired playing pinball. I mean that's a physical Yeah. 2114 02:24:43.440 --> 02:24:48.719 Yeah, But if I'm playing more than like two three when I used to, 2115 02:24:48.760 --> 02:24:50.920 when I do more of that's streaming, I would be like, oh 2116 02:24:50.959 --> 02:24:54.239 man, if I'm doing this for like two hours, that's a that's a 2117 02:24:54.280 --> 02:24:58.559 lot. I do want to I haven't streamed Venom yet. I have a 2118 02:24:58.760 --> 02:25:01.840 Venom game here, and I would like to stream that very soon, so 2119 02:25:01.040 --> 02:25:05.799 I will do cool. I'd like to see that I did waste a lot 2120 02:25:05.840 --> 02:25:09.200 of time, and I think I may have played this for like shamedly, 2121 02:25:09.319 --> 02:25:13.159 like four or five hours. But Super Auto Pets. Oh, there's nothing 2122 02:25:13.200 --> 02:25:16.680 to be ashamed about. Oh no, I'm just nothing but a shame of 2123 02:25:16.680 --> 02:25:22.000 that game. And yeah, just just being locked in to that because it 2124 02:25:22.079 --> 02:25:26.159 came out on phones, terrible, terrible for me. Can I can I 2125 02:25:26.200 --> 02:25:28.600 ask you guys to do something for me, Like you guys have Steam open 2126 02:25:28.719 --> 02:25:33.120 on your computers in front of two I do actually? Can Can you go 2127 02:25:33.239 --> 02:25:35.920 to your library and go to home and go to all games and sort by 2128 02:25:37.000 --> 02:25:41.319 hours played and tell me, like, what's your most played game on Steam? 2129 02:25:41.799 --> 02:25:45.319 Because for me, it's it's Eco at five hundred and forty seven point 2130 02:25:45.360 --> 02:25:48.520 two hours. Now, the interesting interesting thing about ECO is that's a game 2131 02:25:48.559 --> 02:25:52.239 that the way I played it, I played it twice and they are in 2132 02:25:52.600 --> 02:25:56.319 thirty real world day sessions. That's how long it takes for the asteroid that's 2133 02:25:56.399 --> 02:26:00.600 up in the space to hit the planet that you're on, and it happens 2134 02:26:00.600 --> 02:26:03.639 in real world time. Now, I played twice for five hundred and forty 2135 02:26:03.639 --> 02:26:07.079 seven point two total hours at least, that's how long I headed on uh 2136 02:26:07.280 --> 02:26:13.159 And if you do the math on that, so divide that by two and 2137 02:26:13.159 --> 02:26:16.360 then divide that by like thirty days on average, I played that game for 2138 02:26:16.479 --> 02:26:20.920 nine hours a day when I was playing it, so insane, that's real 2139 02:26:22.000 --> 02:26:24.360 scary. I got to assume a lot of that time I had to be 2140 02:26:24.399 --> 02:26:26.559 the game was on and I wasn't at the computer or something, because otherwise 2141 02:26:26.600 --> 02:26:30.239 I'm like, wait, no, way, I did that? How do 2142 02:26:30.280 --> 02:26:33.360 I? Yeah? How do I? Okay? So if you go if 2143 02:26:33.479 --> 02:26:37.680 the library tab at the top, yes, and then maybe hit home, 2144 02:26:37.799 --> 02:26:41.600 yes, hit home, then scroll down past everything you should see like a 2145 02:26:41.639 --> 02:26:46.319 selection of like shelves of your games, and I think the one at the 2146 02:26:46.319 --> 02:26:50.120 bottom likely should be all games. No, I'm not seeing maybe I have 2147 02:26:50.200 --> 02:26:52.600 like a different view or something. Yeah, you can. You could. 2148 02:26:52.600 --> 02:26:56.520 Then there's a you can hit the ad shelf button, I think, and 2149 02:26:58.040 --> 02:27:03.200 do you see that below? Let's see if you soon I have added a 2150 02:27:03.280 --> 02:27:07.120 game. Oh, choose shelf. Okay, yeah, choose shelf and go 2151 02:27:07.159 --> 02:27:13.000 to all games. All games, yes, sworded by hours played. There's 2152 02:27:13.040 --> 02:27:18.760 the shelf. Okay. Maybe actually don't go home, just go to the 2153 02:27:18.799 --> 02:27:22.559 library. Yeah, just hit the library button. And do you see like 2154 02:27:22.600 --> 02:27:26.399 what's new at the top? Yeah? I see this? Yes, okay. 2155 02:27:28.479 --> 02:27:35.959 I have close to seventy five hours in Team Fortress two. Okay, 2156 02:27:35.959 --> 02:27:41.040 but then again I did not get into PC games until fairly recently. Right, 2157 02:27:41.280 --> 02:27:46.200 My times drop off pretty drastically after that. It's a well. Battlegrounds 2158 02:27:46.239 --> 02:27:50.799 is four hundred and twenty four hours, hit Man's one hundred and seventy three 2159 02:27:50.840 --> 02:27:56.360 hours, Civilization five is one hundred and seventy hours, Man Rocket League one 2160 02:27:56.399 --> 02:28:00.360 hundred and sixty hours. Jesus, I can't put some of these game quite 2161 02:28:00.399 --> 02:28:05.159 some time. Elden Ring was one hundred and thirty three hours. Oh boy. 2162 02:28:05.639 --> 02:28:09.239 Yeah. If this was like including console stuff, it'd probably be some 2163 02:28:09.120 --> 02:28:15.799 embarrassing numbers. Yeah, my my like Call Duty times on Xbox were like 2164 02:28:15.840 --> 02:28:20.120 for Modern Warfare one it was two three thousand hours something in that range. 2165 02:28:20.479 --> 02:28:24.440 I have fifty hours and awesome knots. I don't know if anyone remembers that 2166 02:28:24.520 --> 02:28:30.239 it is a two million. I wonder, I wonder what mine is like, 2167 02:28:30.319 --> 02:28:33.399 I still can't figure this out. You look at on the left or 2168 02:28:33.399 --> 02:28:35.440 the like the left, No, no, it were on the right. 2169 02:28:35.520 --> 02:28:41.399 It's the main window. Oh okay, ad shelf, Yeah yeah, choot, 2170 02:28:41.399 --> 02:28:46.399 and then choose shelf and you're gonna select all games, all games or 2171 02:28:46.520 --> 02:28:56.520 by yes, time played hours played? Oh GTA five two hundred and seventy 2172 02:28:56.559 --> 02:29:05.319 five hours no, wow, okay, okay, well boys, is that 2173 02:29:05.719 --> 02:29:09.440 is that we Is that weird? No? G normal gaming? No? 2174 02:29:09.520 --> 02:29:15.719 I mean like I was just you know what counts. No, So, 2175 02:29:16.159 --> 02:29:22.479 when Dylan was born, I spent a lot of time finding peace with my 2176 02:29:22.639 --> 02:29:30.079 life in that game, sure, meaning I loaded a custom soundtrack into it 2177 02:29:30.440 --> 02:29:37.000 that was mostly like eighties like like vice sort of style music, and I 2178 02:29:37.000 --> 02:29:41.360 would just sort of like drive around in that place listening to that music just 2179 02:29:41.399 --> 02:29:46.760 to be like finding finding that piece, if that makes sense. That's how 2180 02:29:48.000 --> 02:29:54.760 That's how No, I hope that's a And the second game after that is 2181 02:29:54.879 --> 02:29:58.879 tear Down at seventy hours. Oh wow, and that's mostly my son. 2182 02:30:01.440 --> 02:30:09.200 Yeah, crazy fun stuff abound. I'd like to hear the horror stories of 2183 02:30:09.200 --> 02:30:11.680 how much time you at home have put into a video game. I think 2184 02:30:11.680 --> 02:30:18.200 I saw Albert's a two thousand hours in one, which is insane. Yeah, 2185 02:30:16.719 --> 02:30:22.000 I bet it's I bet ultimately it is counter Strike for me. But 2186 02:30:22.159 --> 02:30:28.719 because that wasn't Steam back then, yeah you know, yeah, yep, 2187 02:30:28.440 --> 02:30:33.079 yeah, it was like at least a thousand hours in all the quality games 2188 02:30:33.159 --> 02:30:39.399 up until probably the one after Advanced Warfare, and then I did a thousand 2189 02:30:39.479 --> 02:30:43.959 hours in titan Fall and at least eight hundred hours and like titan Fall to 2190 02:30:45.040 --> 02:30:46.920 atlay some video games, huh yeah, it was a point. There was 2191 02:30:46.920 --> 02:30:48.680 point where it's like I'm just gonna go home and that's when we're do I'm 2192 02:30:48.680 --> 02:30:52.000 gonna work all day and I'm gonna go home and play play these games. 2193 02:30:52.040 --> 02:30:56.200 And oh yeah, did you ever consider yourself good? Uh? Yeah, 2194 02:30:56.479 --> 02:31:01.040 I mean like not great, but like you know, I would be paying 2195 02:31:01.040 --> 02:31:05.239 attention to my KDR and occasional i'd get my call duty KDR up around two 2196 02:31:05.639 --> 02:31:09.200 nice, I think is pretty good. I think one is good. Yeah, 2197 02:31:09.200 --> 02:31:11.040 that was pretty good. They would always be one to be like. 2198 02:31:11.319 --> 02:31:13.319 I would settle in early on around one point twenty five, and then if 2199 02:31:13.360 --> 02:31:16.639 I would actually work at it, I could get it up pretty high. 2200 02:31:16.840 --> 02:31:20.840 There are some games though, where like Titan Fall, I think I was 2201 02:31:20.879 --> 02:31:24.520 always a kind of around one ish that game. I'm like too busy having 2202 02:31:24.559 --> 02:31:28.959 fun to worry about like my KDR. Nice, nice, nice, God. 2203 02:31:28.000 --> 02:31:31.639 I think I probably spent too much time in Split two and two now 2204 02:31:31.680 --> 02:31:35.399 that I think about it, too old to think about my KDR. You 2205 02:31:35.440 --> 02:31:39.680 know, yeah, right, folks. That does it. That brings us 2206 02:31:39.680 --> 02:31:43.440 to the end of the show. So shouts out to you if you've stuck 2207 02:31:43.479 --> 02:31:46.159 with us. That's that's all the shots that we're giving to you. To 2208 02:31:46.239 --> 02:31:50.000 snow Bike Mic and to Emily because it's her birthday. We got a packed 2209 02:31:50.079 --> 02:31:56.959 week this week. Game Mess has returned for the rest of the week on 2210 02:31:56.040 --> 02:32:00.440 a good time. With that, Thursday, game Mess mornings will be pushed 2211 02:32:00.479 --> 02:32:07.840 off to perhaps a game Mess brunch to cater to some some inner company stuff. 2212 02:32:07.200 --> 02:32:11.879 We also got Blake Club continuing this week. Godspeed Mike, Oh my 2213 02:32:11.959 --> 02:32:16.959 god. It is currently planned that we will also be doing a power Bomb 2214 02:32:16.079 --> 02:32:20.879 cast tomorrow as well, lots and lots of talk about within the wrestling world, 2215 02:32:22.319 --> 02:32:24.079 voicemail, dump truck popping off as per us. Is there a Jeff 2216 02:32:24.159 --> 02:32:28.920 Jeff's this week? Jeff? Uh No, The next one will be next 2217 02:32:28.920 --> 02:32:33.760 week, fantastic. We also are planning BCR this week. We will be 2218 02:32:33.799 --> 02:32:39.440 talking about Suicide Squad with Lucy and Tam who have completed it, as well 2219 02:32:39.600 --> 02:32:45.079 as jumping into I should say diving into Hell Divers two this Friday for UPF. 2220 02:32:46.360 --> 02:32:48.680 I'll probably want to talk about film stars as well because that we're I 2221 02:32:48.680 --> 02:32:52.559 think that unlocks at nine pm tonight. I think it's out now. I 2222 02:32:52.559 --> 02:32:54.600 think it's out in some places. I think in the United States. Hey 2223 02:32:54.600 --> 02:32:58.520 listen, could it could have unlocked now? Unlocked now? And hey, 2224 02:32:58.559 --> 02:33:01.159 you know, maybe we'll find some more time. I'm to uh squeeze in 2225 02:33:01.280 --> 02:33:05.600 some more games. Perhaps uh I can convince someone to sit in with me 2226 02:33:05.680 --> 02:33:09.959 while I play poker, the Poker roguelike. Listen, if we can, 2227 02:33:11.120 --> 02:33:13.159 we'll find some time. Let's make it happen. I also just want to 2228 02:33:13.159 --> 02:33:16.600 play poker. I don't want to do that. Oh yeah, oh yeah. 2229 02:33:16.760 --> 02:33:20.040 We we have plenty of ideas here at giant bomb dot com. We're 2230 02:33:20.040 --> 02:33:22.200 in no short supply of those. That is not the problem. It is 2231 02:33:22.360 --> 02:33:28.879 time. Oh also, you know, expect a certain video and follow up 2232 02:33:28.000 --> 02:33:33.360 to a dumb idea that got brought up last week on voicemail dump Truck. 2233 02:33:33.000 --> 02:33:37.680 Was it a dumb idea or was it a stroke of genius? It's a 2234 02:33:37.920 --> 02:33:43.120 it's really good, it's well, it's a really genius dumb idea. Yes, 2235 02:33:43.399 --> 02:33:48.040 yeah, yeah, yeah content Baby, Do I have PlayStation Plus? 2236 02:33:48.239 --> 02:33:52.840 This is the question I ask myself now. All right, Sorry, I 2237 02:33:52.879 --> 02:33:56.559 don't think I do. I think I got charged for it like a couple 2238 02:33:56.680 --> 02:34:03.159 months ago. Yes, Yes, A bunch of great stuff popping off this 2239 02:34:03.239 --> 02:34:05.239 week. Once again, thank you to Snowbike Mike for joining us at the 2240 02:34:05.319 --> 02:34:09.239 tippy top of the of the show. Thank you, Jeff, Thank you 2241 02:34:09.319 --> 02:34:13.079 Jeff, Thank you me, thank you for tuning in at home. I 2242 02:34:13.120 --> 02:34:16.719 love and appreciate all of you, and I hope it stops raining in San 2243 02:34:16.760 --> 02:34:20.760 Francisco soon because it's too wet. We'll see you next week for another episode 2244 02:34:20.799 --> 02:34:48.799 of the Giant bombcasund Like this, the Giant BombCast is brought to you by 2245 02:34:50.040 --> 02:34:54.760 expelling a small amount of air to create sounds out of your lungs. Next,