Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to geek First Podcast podcast number No,
that's not this episode. It's the X Men Retrospective. We have reached
our last retrospective. I am I have no fucking clue the time traveler trust
now boom alliteration. I'm the Prince of podcast Kyle Smith. Oh, i
am the man Kirklan Patzer. Very nice to see as his first wrestling shirt
over there. Wow, you in it now, I'm in it. Yeah.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, if you're tuning in now, I suggest
you probably go back in tune to the other ones. But this is the
penn ultimate episode of the X Men Retrospective. After this, we're going to
do a small ranking where we rank our top ten favrete characters and the movies.
Also two movies we didn't watch, Apocalypse and Logan because they are on
the X Men universe and we reviewed them in the past. So you can
turn this and well, no, we wouldn't have seen it that point.
No, No, we haven't seen it, so but we'd have to re
rank it then, No, yeah, we could. Are we gonna just
try and we could make we can make. By the trailer, there we
go tune in the next US, so we'll try and predict where we're gonna
that's the most like lack of content thing in the world. We're predicting,
we're ranking. I mean, Taylor did a synopsis on a trailer that we
didn't see once. Oh God, Taylor Field, but Ladies Jeal in honor
of Dark Fienix. We have watched every X Men film we have not reviewed
before from X Men all the way to day is the future past, and
here we are, I mean laid on the synopsis. Then we're getting into
overalls, and then we're going to get into some notes, which this could
be a messy one because for some reasons, Uh, Kyle didn't have notes.
I lost my notes, and Kirkland has few notes, so I feel
like you could have left out few. I feel like you could have just
left on me having notes. Do notes. I'm bringing you down with us.
He does have notes, a few notes, notes more than one more
than the X Men said. Wolverine to the past and a desperate effort to
change history and prevent an event that results in the doom of both humans and
mutants. That's it. That's it. Well, it's a pretty good SnO.
Compared to the other ones. The other ones were way too much details,
you feel or they give you, like the full story of what actually
happens. Yeah. I meanwhile, this kind of just gives you a little
bit of what's going on, Yeah, without like spoiling the Men most of
the conversation. So wasn't it like Wolverine Origins where it gave the entire I
think it was Origins Origins. No, it was the very first X Men.
And I've multiple times because I didn't read this and knops as I read,
like no, I read, oh yeah, I read this section on
IMDb called storyline, and that just gives you don't read that everything. Well,
I didn't know you read the wrong. I told I said that the
very first episode. This isn't a big wet go in the past to find
this out, you know, Yo, Well we could. That was good.
That was good. Kyle guess too, like or guess one? Actually,
I guess too. Yeah. I've done like two podcasts on this mics.
We give me no problems in this today is just still Boughton tools.
Eh No, I just wasn't know what tools to buy. That's what I
was about to say, is your mic on you know, you turn your
mic off over there. I would just be a line and I might just
be in the store in some hot aisle that I'd be like, can I
help you? And I would just like look at him and run. You
know, I wouldn't know what to do. Kyle, what do you think
about this movie? Actually? I really enjoyed this movie. I kind of
forgot well how good this movie was and how it cleaned up everything that was
wrong with every other X Men movie. Yeah, so that was kind of
a nice relief to have, and you know, moving on, Like obviously
you can listen to our podcast about Apocalypse and Logan, But I know this
movie, really, I know, just tied all the loose ends for me,
and I quite enjoyed watching it. So I don't have too much we'll
get too more into the details, but I'll move this on to guess two
yo. That's me just like First Class. I had only seen this movie
once prior to doing the retro and kind of opposite of effect that I had
on First Class, because when I watched First Class, it was a lot
better in my mind than when I watched it. I still gave a really
good score, but it's just I thought it as like a like a perfect
near perfect movie. Gave it one tent it's trash. No, this one,
it was the opposite. I think I knew it was good, but
it just blew me away. Like honestly, I obviously we'll be rating in
a in an upcoming episode our list, but it's definitely up there of the
the higher tier echelon of movies of the X Men series, I guess,
But uh no, I agree with Kyle because there's so much like convoluted storylines
that happened throughout these movies that just didn't make sense, and this one actually
did a decent job at like tying up some of those loose ends and explain
some things that just didn't make sense. So that was a nice surprise.
Also, you throw in like the fact that they had the original cast along
with like this new first class cast Tongue Twister, and it was just great
seeing both of them. Yeah, there's just a lot of great moments that
I liked. It was good humor in there, and we got our boy
Hugh Jackman back that we didn't get in first Class, so that was sweet
getting him in there. But overall, I really really liked it, and
I'm excited to get into the nitty gritty. Yeah. I love this movie.
I think this is I think it is as good as some of the
best MCU movies even I think they just do such a good job. You
got great actors in there all together, you got the old cast, the
new cast, Hugh Jackman. It's just great as always. I think this
is his I don't want to say best performance because Logan does exist, but
it's my favorite Wolverine performance because Logan is pretty depressing at times. But this,
to me, I like that he's just this kind of matured Wolverine.
He still has those moments where he'll lose his cool or he'll make some jokes
or whatnot. But I there's just something that it feels like, Okay,
this is I don't know what what movie is this now. This is the
sixth seventh one, and he was in all the except for one meaning for
his class, so it does feel we spent some time with those in first
class. Yeah he said fuck off. Yeah, So it felt like he
has matured as a character. And I love the way, which we'll get
into when he's talking to Magneto and Xavier. He just has this perspective that
they don't. And I think they do a great job. I think the
action's good. I think the time travel works. It's not convoluted they get
into I always forget how quickly they get into this movie, like we'll get
in the beginning here. But it just go to me, it doesn't feel
like there's anything I would have cut from this movie. You know, it
all works. He had fun little cameos in there throughout, Kyle, do
have something you would cut? Maybe? No, I was just thinking if
there was anything I would cut, but I don't think so. Yeah.
I think it flushes out each character very well. I think First Class is
still Fastener's best performance, but this is pretty close. He's damn goodness because
this is he's just full on like villain Magneto in this movie. And he
does a great job and they do a great job of integrated. It feels
when we record this, this was literally a week after Endgame. This is
no level of Endgame, but it to me does feel that it It puts
together all the storylines in a nice bow, you know, from even they
refer to origins, you know, like they even had every single X Men
film that has happened they kind of pay tribute to it in one way or
another. So yeah, and I think it. I think it was a
perfect way to end the franchise. It didn't, but it was a perfet
way to end the franchise for the O G members. Oh so we ended
up getting Logan and that kind of ended his and Exavier's mission. But even
at that point, if you look at just a the team, the X
Men, it was a it was a good way to go out. So
yeah, I know, I agree. So we started off in there.
They're just somewhere with years at twenty twenty three, and it's just a really
bleak opening. Is that a subtitle because I don't actually remember seeing a date.
Maybe I'm not sure that here in Wikipedia. But yeah, so it's
twenty twenty three. Things are not going good for the X Men or people
trying to help. It's pretty much just they're in this year's version of like
Nazi concentration camp. So you know, Magneto is not having good time.
Tons of flashbacks going on because he didn't want this happen, and then there's
just lots of stuff going on. You're introduced to Iceman and Kitty Pride and
they're kind of band of just random mutes in there. He got blink.
I like blink. I'm not gonna lie. I just like like the effect
of her portals and everything. It just looks sick. I'm a big fan
of Warpath in the comics, not in this movie, because he does nothing.
He's just a guy with he's like legalists with with his L five.
Yeah, it's not great. It's not great. And then yeah, so
we kind of we meet all these characters and then we also get introduced the
old team and they introduced the concept of time travel. What do you guys
feel about this opening? And I will say, because I don't have it
in my I had it in my notes. I love the uh part.
There's just some random mune I don't know if it's a him or Hurry even
and they're sneaking around the junk yard and they remove some dirt. It's just
the belt buckle of some X men and it's great just to symbolize that everyone
is it's dire straits and it's so they're they're they're close to extinction. Now,
you know. I agree, It's like it's it's pretty, it's pretty
minor and small, but uh, I don't know, it just gives a
little like nod to the fact, like because before you might think like,
oh, maybe there's still an X Men like kick an Ass or something,
but then it shows, right, it's just like, oh, okay,
yeah, this is serious dark times. Yeah. I I don't know.
I I kind of like the introduction of these newer characters that we haven't really
seen before. Who's the guy that like absorbs he like absorbs power and then
like shoots out of his gun. Bishop Bishop, Love Bishop. He's barely
in this movie, but I love him. Back in the day, I
didn't really understand a whole lot of that character's powers. I mean, it's
I think it's he can time travel, but then I think it's supposed to
be similar to Gambit in a way. He kind of charge his difference and
he's automatically charge, but seems like the more he can charge, because I
don't think most of the time there's that woman where Storm does kind of shoot
him in charge him up, but I think he has that all the time,
charging ups. I think she just kind of gave him a boost,
like what they do with the cars, you know, and they're the batteries.
Then yeah, they give it a boost. Yeah, I know that.
See, thanks car Guy, I'll find that tool to fix his stance.
Yeah, but go ahead. Sorry. I was just coming on the
New York characters I and then I quickly wanted to ask did Kitty Pride always
have that power? Because I was totally confused as to how she was able
to like project people back in time like no in the So it's kind of
a tribute to the comic book because in the com books she's the one that
goes back in time in Days of Future Pass. I think he just as
a tribute to her. She does not have that power to that, so
they just gave it to her for the movie. Yeah, as a tribute.
I wasn't sure if it was like a device that she had. Yeah,
They're just like, we're not going to send you back because you're not
Hugh Jackman. So which I always understood. When the movie was coming out,
you there was tons of fans like, oh, it should be Kitty
Bride, Why it is not her? But I think in the context of
these films, it makes a lot more sense. It's Hugh Jackman. And
just money wise, I like elm Page a lot, but I don't think
it would have been. And even that, I don't think we didn't spend
the time with elm Page to care enough for her to go back. Well
she's an X three. That's it all. Think about all the relationships moments
we get in this film that really rich, between Xavier and Wolverine or Wolverine
and mc needle. If Kitty went back, that would have there would have
been nothing to it. Now you know, nothing's there. It wouldn't really
be like a Wolverine movie either, because it's like, no, they don't
even like they wouldn't interact with him as the younger version, right, so
they would have no point in some hotel lady. Yeah. I just had
to ask that because that was a big question mark I had. Now she
was able to I've never slet with that one. Well I have many times
this time, Jimmy, Yeah, okay, uh. I really like the
intro. I think the the music behind it all, like starting not that
one, not not the theme song. It was very like eerie but kind
of remind me of was it kind of Blade runnersh Yeah? That that's a
future in a way, yeah, which is what I really like those type
of movies. So I really enjoyed this intro and even watching the guy were
just falling the guy running around the junk yard, and yeah, I thought
it was really good and kind of knew if you like the future watch al
Altered Carbon I've seen it already. I know it's a running joke on this
podcast. Go ahead, Well, apparently you're the only one who knows the
joke. I'm fine at that. Otherwise, like the introducing introducing new characters,
I thought they were pretty like interesting, I don't know, like I
guess, nothing really like bounced out like, oh this is really cool.
I thought it's like, okay, like I want to go back in time
because you know, I've seen this movie before and I just kind of remember
like this stuff with you know, the future stuff, what's going on with
the characters and them having to fight the new Whoever the centennials are, I
believe that's Sentinels, Sentinels Centennials. Isn't that hockey team or something like that.
I think it's just senators Senators, well, the merit Centennials. If
you if you're a local fan of some junior hockey, there you go.
They're fighting the local hockey team. Sentinels. Yeah, adamantium and there you
go. Perfect. We're two for two. Now say those together Atanium running.
This is a running trip otherwise, you know, I like like with
having the older characters back into it, Like seeing Storm again. That was
kind of nice because it's been a while since we've seen her in any of
the movies. So shorter hair again. I feel like her hair just keeps
shrinking. That's fine by me, don't really doesn't bother me at all.
So no, I thought the intro was good and kind of just jumping right
into going to the future, not you know, missing a beat on it.
We'll go into the past, sorry in the past, we're present day.
And then they explain, oh, we're not going to send you in
the past. We're gonna send your consciousness back to your your younger body.
Xavier can't make the trip because they would just tear his mind apart. So
see, I like their explanation, especially since you brought up like people that
might be butt hurt that it wasn't Kittie pride or whatever, because like they
explained it that it made sense in a way that he was the only person
that could do it because he can just keep regenerating his mind. So I
was happy with the explanation. And then he wakes up. He's there in
seventies. We cod went over, but he's in this random room with a
girl. Great little action set piece there, I love one. They shoot
him and he forgets that he doesn't have the animanty and so yeah, hurts
a lot more. But just that he first of all, I do have
to say, because there's a shot at him, just walk around naked.
He it's crazy, all good, he looks, but he legitimately I remember
when I saw this first time. He looks like a comic book character.
Like the size of him and the way his BOLDI his body sculpted, like
his bold. He just looks like everywhere, like his butt, his shoulders,
his chest. He looks like a comic book character. It's nuts naked
in this movie. Yeah he was. Okay, maybe I didn't have an
unrated version. I bet no, no, No, he was in the
OG version. And when he gets out of the bed for the first time,
because I have a quick trivia note about that, Okay, I'm gonna
bring up now, Travis is probably infactuated about Hugh Jackman's body. Oh Hugh
Jackman's would you agree though that when he gets out, like just hit not
even talk about that. I'm just saying, like, his look his side.
Would you just eat chocolate off the film? Like oh oh yeah.
But I just feel like if you see a panel of Wolverine shirtless, this
is what he would look like. His veins, his arms. Hugh Jackman
is huge in this movie. I almost think he's I don't know if he's
bigger than he is in the Wolverine, but he's more I think he's more
toned up. To be honest, well, he's not dehydrating himself like he
was before. He might be. A script called for Logan to Wake Up
in nineteen seventy three and Boxer Shorts. Hugh Jackman vetled this in favor of
walking around dude, saying in Australia, if you're next to a really good
looking girl in bed, you're not getting out with box or shorts or breeze
or anything. What a man. Yeah that's awesome. He's just the best.
Yeah uh so, and then uh oh. The other part that I
love is the action part where he gets shot and you just see the bolts
slowly. That's what I was gonna mention when you're talking when you're melting about
his superhero body was the one. It's nuts. He looks like a fucking
god. No, totally sure, Yeah, no, I agree. I
also like before uh like before he goes back, he was asking you probably
like or no sorry, she was saying, like trying and keep your mind
calm or whatever, and he's like, like, it's not really who I
am. Like, I get angry, and that's like what his power is
kind of He's not quite the Hulk, but I mean he gets pretty enraged.
So in that action sequence scene after he does, he's like, it's
like com thoughts or whatever, like happy thoughts, happy thoughts. Yeah.
But yeah, I thought like the action sequence in general, like it just
seems so much more modern compared to like the late or sorry of the older
X Men movies that we've been watching. It seemed more gruesome. It's I'm
assuming it's the same rating PG. Thirteen. Oh yeah, yeah, Logan's
the only Radar one. Yeah, it just seemed more like gruesome of a
scene than I've been seen in the last movies. I don't know. I
think like as time goes on, like it's a product if it's time,
but classically it is not a product, no, but it's like classic like
two thousand and one where you know, seeing certain things was like forbid him.
But yeah, all of a sudden, like you jump out even to
now twenty nineteen, where you thought would be at PG like like rated R
movies like only like a PG thirteen. When where did this change? But
I think it's just people's mindset of what is acceptable and not. So No,
I think that. I think that's true though, because I find like,
even just things not related to this movie, it's just like things in
general. I feel like it's just I don't know, people are less sensitive.
I don't know. That's another podcast's on that last podcast, you know,
Kyle had some things to say. And then so Wolverine, he's on
his mission. He takes these guys keys, he just steals his car,
heads over the act mansion. He meets beasts and he eats, he eats,
he meets Xavier. They yeah, I watched the porn very this whole
like sequence. So when he gets to the mansion, I just loved it,
Like like when he first opens the door and he's like, are you
a parent? He's like, man, I sure, hope not and just
like his little back and forth that he has with Hank, and especially because
like he's had that chemistry with the older Hank of three yeah the grammar.
Yeah, so it's just great. He's just like your beast and just like,
oh, I guess you're a late bloomer. I just I don't know.
I loved his back and forth with him, the little like jokes that
they were saying off and I just loved how like you just like he didn't
have time to waste, so he's just like fuck, like, get the
hell all the way and then he just like punches him right in the face,
and then like Hank starts to go like all blue, and then I
become I'm gonna become good friends and then just yeah, no, I love
that whole like the whole sequence from when he gets to the mansion to afterwards.
I agree. I like because he's at the door, he's trying at
closed and he's like come on best, like he's trying to like get the
beast out, and then Many punches him and he goes up seriously, he's
looking for the professor. All you see in the background is Beast. She's
like galloping chasing him. And then you just hear they cut to the shot
where it's just the match and it's just like the sterile and you just hear
like dishes, you hear wolf like, oh, you just seem got thrown,
and then like Beasts just throwing him around everywhere and the nex Xavier stops
it. But it's a great little meet you for those two, which is
good because we talked about how we weren't the biggest fan Nicholas whole space.
I think, how are you guys looking the look at this one? Looks
better? Looks Yeah, I don't think it's good as X three, but
looks a lot better than what we just had. No, it's yeah,
one hundred percent because I remember in first class, like I don't know,
when he first goes Beasts and like he's talking, it just seems like he
is like plastic or something like his lips aren't really moving. I don't know
if it just looks like a more toned down Beast, but like, I
don't know, it's like it seemed more of makeup as opposed to just like
a mask he was wearing. Because it was pretty bad in first class.
Obviously, I said my negatives I had on it. No, great,
I loved it. Okay, I don't really have too much other than I
think I might have making the scene or the whole whole podcast. No,
the whole podcast. That's the whole cask. That was great. That was
great, guys, we're going to wrap it up, not not onto the
next podcast. Uh No. I think my only question is did they explain
how Hank can go back and forth between beasts he's using his well not I'm
assuming he's using that like regenerated power that or like fluid that he gives.
Yeah, I don't feel the same he is. I don't understand how that
can make him control going into beasts. I mean that should be when the
thing is running out of your bloodstream, then you should be turned be He
is a whole thing going, that's yeah, that's the thing, because like
with Xavier, it's the same, like even when he wants to use his
powers, he can't and then and then his legs start to give out and
then it's slowly coming back or whatever. No, he just gets mad and
it just push Okay, No, I just wanted to maybe he is a
different because remember I guess his whole thing with the cure that he was creating
was to still have the same well, because we did bathe that remember first
Class when he's like, I don't to have the powers but not look that
way, and we were saying, well, you just have big feet,
how would that happen? So I guess that's how Maybe that is the version
he's perfected. It can't stay, but it is. He has the powers
of the Beast, but he has to unlock it, but he can go
back to looking you know, like regular Hank and stuff. So he's perfected.
He's just not made a way to stay. And I guess he's you
know, he didn't take he didn't take Mystique's words in First Class, mutin
and proud. He's like, I ain't proud. Fuck that even in this
movie as well too. Yeah, I don't want to be blue. And
then we meet Xavier. He's not doing good. He's a rough shape.
He's looking pretty walking though it's good, he's looking pretty shaggy. He is.
It took a while for them to explain why he's walking. See that's
hilarious that you mentioned that. Sorry, no, only say that like it
just like for a while, I was like, okay, he's walking like
now, he's kind of confused. He just like just got shot and then
it's not until like another like I don't know, like after they get to
make that no no, no, know they explained it after that scene,
because what happens is Wolverine explains from the future and everything like that, and
he says how he piques his interest, which I do, like, he
tells him the story. You start hearing thoughts at this agelah blah blah,
and he's like, I've told no one that. He's like, you will
and then he kind of SLINKs back off to his room after he tells him
to fuck off, and I'm gonna tell you the same thing he told And
I like that callback. I'm going to tell you the same thing you told
me, especially like in first class, like I just thought it was kind
of like an Easter egg thing. But then they call back to it and
then Wolverine justre he grabs him by his robe. I'm just like, you're
listening to your little shit. It's such a good dynamic to see that flip
and it I do. I remember when I saw this sing the first time,
and even up until I think Logan having that type of Xavier was such
a jarring thing because you look at the way Patrick Steweters were playing, he's
just so and even in first Class, the way mack Boy's playing, it's
such a different character. But if you look at how what they do with
him and Logan, you can see that connection a lot more because in Logan,
Xavier is a lot more like that. He's a little shit, he
makes snide comments the Wolverine, he's always kind of joking around. He's that
much more kind of out there Exavier. So now that movie exists, it
almost makes that a lot and it makes this a lot easier to connect because
I could never, not never, but it was so hard to connect those
two together because you never see that Exer but you're doing Logan. He's just
kind of off his rock, yeah, and that's where he is and here
he's not a good time. But anyway, so he does that, he
goes off and then Beast explains to him that he does walk. He can't
walk because he's been taking the seerum, and they get that scene of him
he's just like a junkie the wire. But then he says, oh,
he takes too much, so they can explain that. That was so funny
though, I'm like, man, they're totally just making Xager out to like
a heroin addict He's like, oh, he's just overdoing it. Well,
he's like strapping his arm because I'm pretty sure when they go to that scene
first it's wild Beast is telling the story. So he hasn't talked about the
cure yet. It's just like he's having a tough time. Stique left him.
And then the other thing is the war happened, so a bunch of
his students got yeah, what is it called when they yeah, I know
what you mean, recruited, but the draft draft they get drafted. Yeah,
So he lost a bunch of people and he's like, he just keeps
losing. And then he's like, oh, and then there's this cure.
But for the first little bit, you're just like, is Xavier is just
shooting up? He's just and that's a great heroine gives him the ability to
walk, you know. But so they do explain it and then he's a
and then after he takes the shot, he sees a picture of Raven on
his bed standing goes and then he goes down that I'm gonna I'm gonna try
to find her, not for your little future. Bit nonsense. I'm gonna
find her for her and Logan, she's like fair enough, he doesn't care.
She's like, let's let's get moving on. Yeah, everything about that
whole I've already mentioned it, Like that whole school scene. I just loved
it. I was totally in your camp. Though. I was like,
I don't know if I was just off my rocker like Xavier and Logan,
but man I was. I was so confused. I'm like, I have
no idea when this movie takes place because Hank and turned blue. I thought
he got that from a mystique. And then Xavier's walking which he got shot,
so this must be before that. Like, I was just so confused,
but they do explain it nicely, and especially I was also just so
confused because he was so like basically a junkie Exavier. He's all drunk or
whatever. He can walk, but he's looking pretty rough, and especially just
how first class ended. He seemed so like like, well, I don't
know, yeah, well put together. He was like setting up his school.
But then when they explained that the draft happens and he just keeps losing
everyone, It's just like, Okay, this is actually like, I don't
know, it just made sense to me, and I was happy with the
explanation. It's been ten years too, so that's the thing. Yeah,
you don't know what's happened. Yeah, a lot of things gonna happen in
ten years. And then I didn't really explain it. But I'm sure you've
seen this movie. But they did set up why they're going past because it's
when we're kind of getting hints of ball over Trask that they make the Sentinel
program. They Mystique assassinates him. It's the first time she kills. They
make a big deal about that about the movie. But what happens is they
tasted her and they put her in a lab and got her DNA and that
resort, and so that's why they need to stop her. So we don't
necessarily meet Trask. Well we do in some quick meeting scene where he's just
talking to the Senate why they should take his weapons, and he's like,
there, I don't we don't want this. We mutes aren't really a threat.
And you can see I do like that when they're talking about the cue
mistic crisis there they say, that's just a rumor about those mutes. Being
there and everything like that, So mutes are still pretty on the down low
right now. Well, even he said it's like a one tenth of a
one tenth of the percentage of the population. Yeah, I believe one of
the senators said that, And they're asking why should we invest in this program
when it's it's not a threat, especially like they're American citizens, so they'd
be targeting their own people, right. The only thing I would have to
say to that is that they do have Magneedo in the middle of the Pentagon
a hundred stories down. I think I think they do, but I think
they look at it as we don't need an army to stop these people.
I think they're looking at it that that or they don't know that, like
these senators are unaware of this is happening, and it's like something we don't
know. Who knows about Magneedo because yeah, Magnedo was pretty down and because
it does fit into which we're gonna lay the whole JFK thing, and that
obviously people have tons of conspiracy theories about So it could be that no one
other than a few, not a few, but I select governors or whatnot
in America know what Magneto really is it might not be public to everyone,
so well, definitely is not. No, no, no, at least
to these people conspiracy theories. There's imputing in the middle of the Pentagon,
Hunter stores down. At this point they go, they're kind of making a
plan of how they want to get Raven. They're they're saying, oh,
we're gonna need magneto. Where's Magneto. This is when I don't know why.
I said later on, we gonna eplain because I can explain it now
they they e savor just laughs and he says always in the Pentagon, and
why because he shot JFK, which is what we saw with you Missing Crisis.
I really like that. Twists also get more of that layer. But
I think that's a good idea because for years people talked about the bullet,
the currying bullet, right and who did it? How did it happen?
So I think that was a perfect way to put Magneto in there. And
I'll just jump to it now. I like that the reason and even if
Xavier is a little he doesn't know if we should believe him. I like
the idea that JFK is a mute and and that's why Magneto was trying to
save him or something that same time. I think it's fun. I feel
like Magneto with like the power he has, and I know he says that
they that they interrupted him or whatever. It's like, you didn't have to
curve the bullet away and he could have just stopped it instantly, with like
a split second. I feel like, yeah, I assume, but you
gotta think that hopefully he just went he even just touched a little bit.
Then someone just banged the head with a gun. But yeah, I agree,
he should just be able to yep, you know, it's it's gone.
I like the I like the interplay of history, though, I know
if we're in the past, you know, and then they go sorry.
I believe it comes up again later on in the movie. I don't remember
this. It is in the plane because they talked about this, and in
the plane he reveals the reason he did that because JFK's he was one of
us. Yeah, okay, I was also questioning though, like I feel
like they kind of do a play on history that I that also happened.
Maybe I'm just confused with another one. Maybe I'll come back to me.
Okay, apologize Maybelle Mystique was in the room with the was that Vie Toamese
guy and he brings up or the v to me guys brings up that he
was part of the JFK. See I didn't have subtitles. Yeah, I
didn't have titles either, but that's what I picked up on. Okay,
yeah yeah maybe, Oh, I don't know he was a part of the
JFK thing. I think you're making that up. No, wasn't it?
Yeah, because if you didn't have subtitles and the Viennese guy was talking about
that though, No, sorry, this might have been a bit before with
the Vie Tomese guys talking to another buddy and they're breaking about he's breaking how
Mikeneedo's in this place in the Pentagon? Am I am? I on the
right ball trip? I think so? Yeah, yeah, so maybe that's
what Kirkland's referring to. Maybe I don't think so, But I have no
idea what Kerdinal was referring to. I should wrote him my note so I
apologize only one screw At this point think okay, well we got to break
him out of the Pentagon. We uh wove and goes well, I know
guy. He might be young at this age, but he's a fast guy.
And then we go take a little car ride and we meet Quicksilver,
I mean Evan Pierce Quicksilver. What do you guys think about this fine gentleman?
Uh, he's I really really like him. I don't know, it's
just I like the actor. The first time I saw him was in the
office, very minor rolling it, but he's great. I don't know,
he's just it's really fast. He doesn't really like have like like any like
deep meaning motives behind like anything he does. It's just like he's just like
a little punk kid. Love his choices of music. He also has one
of my favorite scenes of this entire series in X Men Apocalypse. Do you
like the Apocalypse one better? Yes? I do? Wow? Really I
think I think for the music because it's just like a really intense moment and
then you just hear the arithmetics come on and it's just like, oh man,
and then he just shows up. I don't know, I don't know,
it just that's you know, he's stuck with me. But seeing this
one again, obviously it's pretty similar, but I feel like, oh,
like, I don't know, more goes on in this one, maybe as
opposed to The Apocalypse one, but I know I kind of jumped right to
that scene. But uh yeah, I just love his character. I love
the way that they shoot his scenes. Now, it just everything stops and
it's just like it seems like a moment that's so dire and they can't really
get it, and it just stops and he just like puts on his headphones
or whatever and just gets to work. I don't know, it's just he's
a fun character. Yeah, He's not like nothing really crazy like character development,
at least not in this movie. So I don't know it, Like,
yeah, anyway, someone else taking I think this character shuits this movie
quite a bit. I don't. We already have a big background about a
lot of characters and his lots going on, so like even what you're saying,
like, yeah, they don't really go on depth of what he like
his motives and who he really is or whatever he's doing, but it's enough
to like get you an idea of like, Okay, like this guy is
just a punk kid, like what Travis said, And I quite enjoy that
I found at the beginning when we first meet him, even with his moms
like all the cops to hear. And you look at the mat at the
boss burn and it has burned from other people like walking in and like talking
to his kid, or I guess from him running as well too that Yeah,
yeah, I thought it was a dirty now Like as I as I
said that out loud, I was like, oh, no, it's from
him just running in and out. That's a lot of cops coming in mat.
Yeah, no, I got it. I know. I quite enjoy
like even them just talking to them, like oh, asking him questions like
oh, I know you're not cops. I already checked the registration and did
this and this, and you know it's the first time Ignato and Xavier,
you know, meeting him and they don't really have any idea like what's going
on? And you mean and Wolverine or Xavier and Beast. Yeah, still
he's still doing meditation and Wolverine's is kind of smiling because he knows exactly what's
happened. So I quite enjoyed it, and I really just showed off his
his powers. And yeah, later on what Kirkland said earlier that uh scene,
do we even talk about that yet or later or we'll talk about we
could talk about it now if you want to. Yeah, I thought that
was amazing. I thought it was so good and just him running around the
walls and time just as it curl and said, time just stops and he's
just put going to work, and you know, even his motions stuff just
like oh, I'm just going to put my hat on, like headphones or
just moving, you know, screwing up the guys quite a bit, but
then realizing, oh, right, the bullets and then going to the bullets
and then fixing the bullets in the direction they're going. So yeah, I
thought it was a just it was just amazing. Yeah. I loved the
little like one on one he has with Magneto. It just like hints that
he's like, oh yeah, I think my mom knew a guy that had
that power or whatever. Yeah, it was just it's funny. It makes
me so mad with Chill getting the rankings and Apocalypse that they spent a whole
movie of a character looking for his dad and when he finds me to tell
him, no, I'm not gonna tell him he's my dad, so stupid.
Uh. Yeah, I love that. Going back to the intro,
I love the intro. It's quite good. These guys kind of said what
I would say there, but it's just the music when you get in the
vibe they set up good Bye when they're panting around the room, he just
has a bunch of pinballs and stolen TVs. And this guy is clearly a
criminal. He's, you know, he's not doing anything off awful, but
he's breaking crimes. He's stealing stuff, so he's breaking crime. And the
way Peters plays him, and I remember because this was a year before Age
of Aultron came out with the mcu Quicksilver, and you can go back to
listen to Marl retrospective. I'm not a fan of that quicksilver at all for
many reasons, but I do also think that it is because this one came
out, and I think he just knocks out of the park. His quirky
humor is fantastic when he is when he gets Magneto and he just holds him
by the head, he's like, you're gonna get whiplash, and what whip
blash? And they go really fast again, and then there's one moment where
after that McNeil's feeling pretty wheezy because they just ran very quick and he's hold
himself against the wall. He's like, what did you do? What you
do? Why are you in there? Man? And like he ne's just
you can tell he's getting on his nerves, but he's just so flustered he
can't do anything about it. He's just like, do you know karate,
I know crazy or whatever he says. It's just I love and even apocalyps
I do like him a lot, but he's really good in this. Uh
and yeah, that scene. I remember seeing that for the first time,
just being shocked because it's just so good that it's a good build up of
you got Xavier coming in there. It goes totally shit when Xavier and Wolverine
or where the federal agents or whatnot, Like they're trying to get everyone out
of the room. They're like, can we see some identification. He's just
like, no, you need to keep going. This is not a drill,
and they're just like, we need to see something, and he just
pun, oh, Wolverine takes some money. He goes, oh, I'm
not a violent guy, and the door opens and Eric's like Charles and Charles
just deckx him. But I love that scene where there's just this build up
all these cops are coming about to shoot him, and they're just Wolverine is
getting his claws out. May Neil's lift out all these nights just to kill
these people, and it's a good build up winning when he he says to
mag Neil, I'm never gonna get in your mind again. But he's just
covering because he has no power, like he's trying. That's the only thing
I do like about Exavier in this that he is the good guy, but
he does feel very petty. He feels like he's always trying to get the
higher ground on Eric when Eric has obviously done some terrible things, which we'll
get into, but he's he's definitely still out there fighting for Munes, where
Xavier he kind of gave up, you know. So I just love that
pause. He goes around, just little stuff, like when he's running behind
there's juice, he just sticks his finger in and he looks it. I
do like the Apocalypse one. I like this one bear because the flip,
maybe because of the music. I like the calming aspect of it. It's
just like this nice, beautiful scene in the middle of this huge action time
travel one. You know, so he's gonna be one of the things I
miss the most other than McAvoy and Fastbender when we go because I I and
I hope we get some good stuff with him in Dark Phoenix. But I
always love him on screen. He's just entertaining to watch. And Yeah,
they bust him out, they get out of there, they get on a
plane, they say bye to him. Any anything else in that sequence you
wanna talk about? No, No, I don't think so. So at
this point, they're flying to wherever raven is Washington, right. I think
they've Paris for the Paris Peace Conference because that's where she originally where, and
then later on they go to Washington. Yeah, but they are going to
Washington first, right on the plane. I mean, guys, I think
they're going to because they don't find out that she's going to Washington because girl's
mind. Yeah, because there's that dance club scene. The Vietnmese guy,
like a dick, just walks up, spills her drink, accidentally accidentally quotation
marks to try and get up in his room. Let's talk about because the
scene she takes him out, she turns into blue and she has a terrible
line. I wish I had my notes by I think she's like, oh,
I don't look good like this baby. Well, how do you guys
feel about Jenniferlawrence in this movie? I think her performance is a little bit
better. Really, you think it's worse, I do. I think it's
a bit more. I don't think she can do the tough mystique that well.
I think she's better doing the mystique with the raven aspect. I don't
think I'm never intimidated by Jennifer Lawrence in this movie. That's fair. I
I'll say I like her more in this movie because I just the last movie
had just had that Jennifer Lawrence effect where every time she was acting, I
didn't see raven or mystique. I just saw Jennifer Lawrence as a random character.
Right, do you feel like because she's more blue in this one?
Maybe? But not even like I felt like when I saw like she doesn't
look like as much as herself when she's blue. If that makes I think
most people don't, No, that's I do stupid, You don't you know?
You know what I mean? Like I felt like the first time I
watched you know, when we watch Days of Future Past, Sorry, first
class, first class, I felt like I was watching a Jennifer Lawrence movie
or like she was a huge character. Meanwhile this one, like she wasn't
as prominent, like, oh, I'm watching jail. Or maybe it's just
because I'm used to that, Like I've accepted it now I can move on.
Yeah, but it still doesn't make sense because I've still seen both movies
before, and I felt this was a little bit easier to watch her as
a character than it was the first time. Yeah, I also feel like
she has less screen time than the last movie, and the last movie is
all about her just like not wanting to look blue, So it was just
always Jennifer Lawrence. Where is this one? I was actually like looking for
it, like the scenes that they used the Jennifer Lawrence or mystique, and
they only really used it where she had to hide. So I appreciated that
a lot more, whereas in the last one. Obviously the excuse is she
just didn't want to look blue. That's why she's this raven character. Yeah,
I'll just call it that, like her human form. But yeah,
I also know she was kicking ass a lot more than the first one.
Obviously, there's a ten year gap, so she's been she's been in the
gym she's been training her. Yeah, yeah, I forgot to mention.
It's somewhere at the beginning of the movie where she does that. She busts
out mutant because obviously they're going to take them off. We get a young
toad in there, you got Havoc, who have itc is just relegated to
he's the old private soldier. Yeah, just this, And then I think
I can't remember. I I think I'm wrong. I think because in these
synopsis I haven't been finding much of the mystique stuff. But when does she
pretend to be Trask at this point when she goes when she's in oh,
after she leaves the Paris Accord? Is it? No? It might's right.
I think it's just before, like, yeah, before that happens,
because and then she goes back to her So this is what I was on
the throw because obviously the big I feel like, the big reason why this
was a big movie at the time, because you have people coming back,
you had mixing up the old cast and the new cast. But so she
saves Havoc Havoc in one scene this movie, and that's it. And then
how do we all feel about And obviously we didn't maybe love all these characters.
But when she is Trask, she finds all these files and just every
single character from First Class other than Xavier, Her and Beast just killed off
screen, never seen heard of again. What do you think about that choice?
I'm totally fine with it. Those characters were so minor and I was
not attached to them whatsoever, and maybe like, uh, Evan Little,
what's that color's dad? Azazel? What did I say, Evan Little?
You're talking about the water? Like that was pretty close? Evan Little and
Azizil and Hazel Azazel Azazel and Evan Little. I feel like I just switched
a couple of letters in there. Anyways, I feel like that's the one
character that was kind of interested in First Class, but everyone else I could
not care any less. So also, fun fact, first time I watched
this movie, I totally didn't realize that that's who those people were. Yeah,
so it was kind of funny like seeing it now and be like,
Okay, that makes sense, especially since we just watched. For the actors,
you know, you join X Men, you think I'm gonna be in
a sequel? And and then the trivia, Yeah, true, they were
in the movie at one point, but they took them out. I don't
know, it's it kind of gives like some reasoning why Raven would hate trast
so much, though, So I I was I was okay with it.
Yeah, I'm fine with it. And even like Magneto like it, says
that I guess it's a little bit later says that to existing is coming up
so you can talk about it, okay, Yeah. Mgneto even says that
too. He's like, hey, Xavier, like, where have you been?
Like you've been like basically that calmly as well, Hey Xavier, where
you been? Where you be? Such a good scene just getting all the
planes, it was a lot more. I just like right before that Charles
like well when Charles like goes after him and he's like just let him come,
and then he just like just goes back at him like ten times over.
Oh yeah, I loved it. Yeah, And with the way the
plane like crumples and you just think they're just all gonna die, and then
after you just like I don't know, he fixes it and it all goes
back to normal. I love that. It's funny how Wolverine is also now
so calm to be on a plane because all the X Men movies leading up
to they always make a joke of him get like clenching this, Like no,
I know you were against this before, but no, he you can
go back. That never happened once in X one. It didn't happen in
xtra. You can go back. I called that of like, where why
are they ramly just adding this I'm afraid to fly thing? They're very inconsistent
with it. So I don't agree with you guys. Whatsoever he goes.
We just we should have talked about this beforehand. You'd still be wrong.
No, we ain't wrong. There's nothing in X I trust me. There's
nothing in a few films that he's not scared of flying. It's just whatever
guy's directing. And was like, okay, you know sure. I feel
like it's a trend. They keep bringing it. They might not explain it
properly, and I feel like with X two, you guys tried to portray
that he was scared of flying, and I kind of gave it to you,
But it's also because there's a hole in the plane and they're being chased.
I never fully got gave you guys the points because it's a full point.
They're half as you don't want to recount. So anyway, so they're
going to a big argument. Charles just hey, you know, you put
it on the wrong path. Blah blah blah. And like I said,
he does a great acting. Fastmaner's best scene in this movie when he's just
yelling at Charles. Planes going down and I do remember the saying goodness had
my notes, so huh. So after that he kind of just obviously again
he's going things about the wrong way, but it feels like he kind of
ones up Charles because he just asks him, like even name like Kyle said,
he names off all the people that died while he was just sitting at
home, you know, doing his mess again. Yeah, yeah, which
I agree with you guys. That ship for those actors, but I would
never trade seeing those characters again for what we got here with Hugh Jackman everything.
But anyway, so the plane comes up, he just like, hey,
hey, Eric, you need to stop. It all goes fine and
Xerier SLINKs off and everything. And there's two things I love about this.
I love the connection that I know this is gonna sound weird, but I
love the connection chemistry that Fastpener and Hugh Jackman have together. I wish we
had another movie because you just it's just a gun slinger. Every time they're
together, you just feel the hatred and everything like that. So it's just
so good when he's just he looks to him and he just goes and I
assume we're best by he's in the future and he goes, no, no,
I try to take you down for many years. And when he just
goes, how how's you know? How's how's that going? He's like,
you're like me, You're a survivor. And just that exchange right there shows
everything they are. And just I think Magneto he has his bag guy elements
in first class, but just even Fastpener's eyes in this movie just looks like
he's ready to mess. We'll ring up, but he won't. It looks
like he's he's agreed to like a tree a truce for now, but he
could strike at any moment. But oh, just I love the line too.
It's just like he like has his claws or whatever. He's like,
men of they're medal. I hate that line. You hate it? How
Come it's way too obvious for shying because does he go around to say that
to everybody now, Like if beast turns in the beast, he's like,
I wish your fur was metal, Like if all your bones, if all
your bones are metal, I control you. I feel like that's kind of
what to me, it's way too obvious and winky to be. We know
he's gonna get that adamantium. Okay for me, I don't like that one
because it's a them crack. What the line I do like, though,
is after the plane's like gone all over and they have their intense stare down,
Wolvering Slash Jackman just looks over me and goes, you gotta pick all
this shit up. Oh yes, yes, I literally left so hard to
shoot them. A look Wolverine. Hugh Jackman's always on fire, but he's
on fire logan. He gets to play the really dark, depressed Wolverine for
the comedic. To me, the nineties just kind of bubb Wolverine. That's
him to a t. Just you gotta pick that shit up. Oh it's
so good. He's lined up of everybody's smoking the cigar. No, yeah,
I agree with you that. Everything about that scene I already said my
two points on him is just also, I like, I don't know.
I'm glad you brought up just the chemistry between those two because I don't know,
they're just like they're just so good together. And like those two like
just as characters, they have so much history going back and forth, and
it's just it's great to see them before all that history. Right. Uh,
just to go back before that scene with Jylaw in the when she's finding
out all the mutants and who's dying in the Trask's office. Yeah, how
does she drags Trask? Drax? Is a character play? First, It's
like it's a weird Dave Drax, Trask, Dave Rash, Thank you.
I was I was looking at you like you just made it wrong. Now
you're saying no Trask. So how does she all of a sudden change heights?
Is that part of well she's done that is before though, she because
remember the next three when they have her locked up and she turns to a
little girl and she's like, please let me go. It defies the laws
of physics. Yeah, it doesn't make sense. She could turn into a
little girl that would have stretched skin because her boss is the same weight,
but her her height, her baby, her bonet, maybe her legs are
there they just look invisible. Yeah, and again I stretching, I'm sorry,
and I was like, that's not what it is. I'm gonna throw
the same complaint that I did for X two and X two And she's as
Lady death Strike and she's on the computer, but she turns into blue mystique.
I go, why would you be that way in the security center?
Same thing here when she's ball for Trusk and she's looking at the files shorter
she can't reach the files. Then go back to it because they just love
doing this. Almostiqus about to get caught and then one second and then always
suspense. Yeah, it's yeah, but it's an eye rolling mode to me
because you know she's not going to get caught here. But the Secretary is
not gonna be like a kid's movie too, So it's not a kid's movie.
It's full adult that you have to be a certain height to get in.
Jackman as Yeah, yeah, exactly, huge with chocolate on it.
There's a lot of kids first time seeing a male's ass. Oh god,
Kate. So after what's the next scene? Uh? And so let's talk
about that Hugh Jackman naked scene again. So they're on the plane, they
get back. Yeah, they've they've found out where mystique is. That meetings
going on where Trask is presenting it to the kind of world leaders. These
are my weapons, this is what they could be used for. We missed
something that that Xavier is no longer going to take the serum. No,
that's way later, you're jumping away way Oh yeah, it's way later.
There's a bunch of action stuff that happens. So Bolivar Trask goes, oh,
I have wait, how do they find them, Steka, that's not
way after. I don't like your turnlogy there. They just know where she
probably at least twenty five minutes after. They're just assuming it's a good percentage
of this movie. So they're on their way. They're on their way to
Washington, DC. Because remember in the future, they know this is the
they're on the Paris event because they know this is the day that she kills
Bulvar Traust, So they know that they lay are on with Washington. They
have a track her down, but this one they know from the future.
So she's disguised the Vianamnes guy Bulbara Dast picks out his thing and he's like,
oh, that can sense a immune anywhere in the world. And he
turns out and it starts to click and it goes around. I don't know
the actor's name, but the guy who plays a Vietnamese actor, he just
goes, there must be some mistake. He just plays it so cool.
That was like Vietnamese. But he's just like yelling at him and in like
his Vietnamese language or whatever, and he's just like looking at him. Yeah,
and then it's mystique. She turns up, she starts kicking ash,
she's taking on out. She and we haven't mentioned this. At the Army
Camp. We got young William Striker because it can't be an X Men movie.
Thought a fucking William Striker reference or character because flashback. Yeah, because
other than Next one and X two, x three, you had X two,
he had origins, you had first Class. He's not mentioned really at
all the Wolverine so that's fine, but then this one. So that's four
last five movies that have had a Striker character in it, and then Apoll
Clypse also has Striker in it, so to play Devil's advocate, maybe just
because he had such an impactful role on the character of Wolverine and Wolverine's part
of one. I think it here. I don't think they needed his dad
in first Class. I think it's just because some people. Nah. And
then also like, obviously we're not reviewing this, but in Apocalypse, there's
just a random scene where Striker Kid has a bunch of them takes them aw
lake. The only reason that's done that just so they can have that cool
old rain scene. It is cool, and I'm happy we get it,
but it is that eye rolling scene of all Striker and all back to the
lake, like they go there and okay, and even that X three,
Striker's not in it, but I remember Wolverine and Storm have to go back
to the lake to find Gene. So it's just like Striker is almost as
big as Magneto in this series, which is fine, but it is kind
of like you're nowhere near as entertaining and luckily, I like, how do
you guys feel about a young Striker actor? Fine, I don't know.
I kind of like like I pass over the stuff that's not like it's good.
Don't get me wrong, he's he's a fine actor. He did a
good job, But for me, that's not the point of the movie.
I don't really care too much about that person. I want to see all
this more of the bigger storyline. That's why I don't mind. You know,
with Quicksilver, we get a quick glimpse of you know, what he's
doing, not quick we do the word, but at the same time,
like we just move on with the story. We don't indulge in all these
other storylines. Just I think that's what I really enjoyed about this movie is
that we get to the point and yeah we get a little bit, but
just enough to know what's going on, but not enough. We're we're going
on different tangents on another whole other planet. So well, Striker does provide
a great moment though, because mystique's popping off. She tasers him and he's
just on the ground. He's taser for quite a while in this scene.
Wolverine no, no, no, because he tases his mystique and then Magneto
pulls the taser off and then tases him and he's just being tasted for minutes.
It was completely right. But this is when shit goes haywire because first
of all, Wolverine sees Striker well, great callback. I love that they
had like the bloody Wolverine. I was I was waiting for what like scene
they were gonna show, because there's two movies there. Yes, I'm glad
they did, and they do show Origins. We'll get to that later.
But I think that's also there's other something the same. I think that's just
such a nice touch, because you would You didn't have to do that.
You could have found some other reason. But it was a nice setup of
Hey, he just got a steake, calm, think peaceful thoughts, and
I love that you see Striker and his different universes or timelines are crashing into
one another, and this caused him to have amnesia again. And then Magneto's
sides well instead of amnesia, or is he just going back to his original
See that's what I think. He's not going He doesn't have amnesia. He's
going back to when he was just regular Wolverine because he's out of that consciousness.
But it's that way of the same way in Origins when he wakes up
with Gambit, he's like, who the hell are you? He does the
same thing Xavier, right like where am I? Who the hell are you?
Like anytime Wolverine is forgetful, he just gets due. No, but
it's well, no, I don't know, because it feels like he doesn't
even know who he is in that scene. No, he doesn't know who
the people are there. I don't feel like I haven't even know who he
would confusing the scene originally, And I have a question because when that happened
and when he lost his mind, I thought the reason for his for that
was that they screwed up the original timeline, so all that stuff never happened
because now Striker's tasered on the ground. That's why he loses his memory because
he didn't actually have that memory originally because he never got I don't know,
prison by Striker and got the Adamantina you. Originally, that's what I thought,
and then he kind of gets his memory back, and I just kind
of assume it's because they fixed the original timeline because obviously at the end he
does get captured and goes with Striker. So that's kind of the way I
was playing with it. But originally I thought that's what would happened. And
I thought, I don't know, I've only seen those movie once before this,
so I thought he like just didn't have his memory for like the whole
movie. I'm glad he got it back because it would have been a terrible
movie otherwise. But here, but yeah, originally that's what I thought.
That's why I thought he had his memory. I don't know if it's just
because his mind was crashing and then he's just freaking out and like the present
day slices Kiddy right in the we did, we didn't talk about what do
we think at the very beginning. So Kitty and Bobby are an ido hold
hands. Yeah, well that makes sense. Rogue's gone and he just well
obviously yeah, well like what what is Rogue going? This is what?
Okay, this is We should have had this to the last podcast for go
Down. So here X three was X three was wild its origins. The
last one we did when when was Rogue leaving or when it was X three?
Yeah? Yeah, so she got she has this cure and now she's
still part of the school with even though she's cured, even though she has
now no powers and how is this possible? Going on top of that as
well, they don't tell anyone. They're just like, yeah, she can't
touch me, Well yeah she's lying now going on to like what you just
said at the end when Wolverine says it and he goes back to his future
self, Rogue's there and she's holding Bobby's hands. So it's like love those
ill really because the powers came back, remember Magneil got his powers, but
right the here didn't work. I guess it was not a good Did you
find that on IMDb board? Because that was not no, no, no,
well it was set up, but I just always thought this is some
like fan fiction stuff. But I hope when Rogue's cures start or her immune
power started working in I love to see that scene. It wasn't at an
opportune time where let's say there's a certain situation where maybe Bobby couldn't have said
anything and she could have just you know, looked down and poor Bobby was
gone. So I don't know what up in there. We'll get a rope
because she was in this mooth but she got cut out of it, so
and there we didn't watch that. There is a version of this movie called
the Rope Cut where they put all the Rogue scenes back in so oh interestingly
in it for about five ten minutes. It has to do remember this has
to do with Kiddy getting sliced and they need a replacement, so they go
find rogue. It's very strange interesting they needed to get cut out, even
though I know we jumped in, but I did like at the end that
shows in the right time timeline, her and Bobby are still supposed to be
together, you know, but it is funny that they show up in just
that hand. And just since you're on that topic of like Bobby and Kitty
as a couple. I remember when Bobby's going into like this is before he
sends was it Bishop? I can't remember, Like who's Kitty send back?
Originally it was a bishop. Yeah, it was Bishop. Yeah. So
the very first wish we didn't talk about I loved with the first time I
saw when they started the movie, just the X Men all getting killed,
and I remember I saw the first time. I was like, wow,
we're losing a lot of people real quick. Well, yeah, no,
totally I agree with that, even like I know, on the side point,
but like later in the end of the movie, when like shit's going
down and then Storm gets killed off and like, oh yeah, just ran,
She's just standing there sator and takes it. It was like a really
like I don't know, what like noise they did with but it was like
a screech sort of, and it's just like she just popped and she just
falls. She's gone, like no funeral, Yeah exactly, She's gone.
Yeah. Yeah. So like when that happened, I don't know, like
I knew the outcome of this movie, but still I was like, holy
shit. All these characters that I've been following since we been doing this retro,
I've been watching them and following them, so it's like when that moment
happened, it's yeah, it totally does hit you. Yeah, even she's
not the greatest character. Yeah, oh sorry. Going back to my side
point when you're talking about like Bobby and her holding hands or whatever, there
was a scene I think it's when yeah, so Kitty is taking Bishop to
go like send him back in time to warn them all. Bobby comes like
sliding it on his ice and it's like a slow mo shot of him like
locking eyes with Kitty. I was laughing so hard. I thought it was
so cheesy and so saying goodbye man, you know, it's just like,
yeah, I do. I was also wonder where Rogue was at that point.
I like, every time Bobby does find in this movie, it's full
on Iceman that I like that, so it's it's a good thing. So
he's gonna be his full power, you know, he can't just half power.
Oh he does. It's just because we moved along. But I feel
like back in the OG trilogy it looks a lot better too. Obviously he's
older, but yeah, and I think it's just CG looks a lot better
now because even in X three that was two thousand and six. This is
twenty fourteen, So eight years later, I think they can afford to make
him look Iceman BOI, where before even the next three he looked good enough.
But he's still very CD. I mean like his beard too. Just
break her bomb. He's a nice touch, you know. Uh. So
at this point, yeah, Wolverine's freaking out. He's off the own magneto
sides. Uh, he's not going with the plan anymore of let's get Mystique
out of here and get away from the government. He's just gonna flat out
murder. So he takes a gun. I love when Beast tackles him and
he still shoots the gun using his magnet powers. Mistique jumps out the window,
flying bolt everything like that. What do you guys think about this sequence?
Because you got that Beast turns in the Beast him then fight. There's
quite a bit stuff going on here because this is Wolverine's incapacitated. He's he's
just freaking out. You're on a lot of bad ass. Yeah, that
was funny when they right like that. Also, just like when uh,
Magnetio gets the gun and just holding it to Mystique and then Mistique's like like
stop him. Charles getting his head and he's just so hopeless because he's just
a junkie. He's just a junk hopeless for the first he's even like he
said, what can he do? He's just trying to calm down Logan.
He has nothing. No, yeah, one hundred percent. But so that
happens, like you mentioned when Beast tackles him and then he uses his powers
to shoot the gun. It was such a neat little I don't know,
like they could have just had him like falling with the gun and shoot it
and then bend the bullet. But I love that they had him like pull
the trigger with his powers and then bend it or whatever. The metal people
in these movies are always good. Yeah, even later on when he's sewing
his own self and he's such a good time. Yeah, they even yeah,
what stitching you? No, he's sewing, He's sewing. Even in
the ship movies, they've done a good job to make sure they got Magneil's
metal shiit great details or sorry, great attention to details with his powers,
but so that happens. Hank tarns of the Beasts and one of my favorite
moments is when Logan's getting a little lucive but he stills no memory and he
goes, who are you? And then Best stands up in full beast mode
behind Charles and he goes what the hell and Logan has no idea what's going
on? Then he's like, go get go, get magnet and I'll take
care of this. A big fight in that world. Yeah, that was
just such a gruesome scene too, when Magneta was pulling the bullet that was
in her leg and he was like pulling her Oh, I was just like
cringing. I'm like, I know it's a movie, but still he's so
roofless in that moment. Fastbender's face is just dead Pam but has so much
emotion at the same time. Just good job as Bender. Yeah, I
really like that scene only because Fastbender at that point has like a point of
why he's doing or I guess you should say Magneto has a point why he's
doing that of like why do we need we need to kill off uh mystique
because she's the key to all of this. Look at Wolverine just told us
this whole story, and if she's the key, then why are we just
not doing anything about it? We need to end it right now. I
agree with you. It's just so clear cut and just such a simple method,
whereas like Charles method, like he would don't want to reform her and
just like I don't know, show the bigger picture. But he's just like
you know, Eric's plan backfire because he gave them the DNA because he got
all the blood all over in the moment. Yeah, you can understand his
his his u you can't. But he didn't think he was very passionate about
because if that even in the case, if that's a shot on the head,
they just have the body. They still had all this DNA, So
he's not really because uh, I keep the funding Volumneion Trask goes, oh,
we need more DNA, like like afterwards, like we just have blood,
but I need like spinal fluid, I need brain matter. Yeah,
but that's I said. If he just headshot right there, whole body would
have been there, they could have just claimed, they would have just cleaned
up and taken her out. Who would have X man X man. They're
gonna bury her. They're not gonna leave her like that. Charles is not
gonna leave her. They don't have time if people are coming after him to
pick up. Uh where did they have with him again? Who? Oh?
Actually quick silver there Hank Hank, Hank bigot, Hank, Hank beating
the sheg neil he busted home. I love that. Yeah, but maybe
what if pre Hank tackling make needle making would have just shot right there,
then her blood's everywhere, and then her body is right there and he would
take it. No, I don't think. I don't. I don't think
they have the time. I don't think because they're they're trying to sneak away
in because how do they're not gonna leave a mutant there? Yeah. The
whole point is the say she's dead. If she's dead, they're gonna take
They're gonna leave her. No, No, no, no, the way
Xavier and Wolverine sneak out of the confused with azel an Angel. They Wolverine
Xavier just walk out of the They just walk into the group with a bunch
of people. You couldn't do that holding this blue woman they carry, leave
no man behind, leave behind, They would not have the time at all.
And at this point you no, I'm sorry, Okay, explain this
to me. How how they get there's c AA all these people after from
They're gonna carry a body out of a blue woman? Yeah? Sure,
well, and they're easily gonna get caught. You're just gonna show blood.
You're gonna see them carrying it. Yeah, done. So they're just gonna
go to prison for her. They're not gonna go to prison. How they're
gonna stop them? The Path just gets Hank to carry her on the roof
and he just leaps from roof to roof. Yeah that or Magneto just takes
metal and just bends it and moves her away. Doesn't care a coffee.
They don't care enough. But uh, even though I forgot that he cares
enough, he still like knows the girl. Well, I forgot to mention.
Right before they land, they have a chest scene together, which is
good, and then Magneto. He tries his best, but I don't think
he does a good job of telling Xavier Magneto and a Raven's relationship without laying
it on very thickly that they are getting it on a lot. He's just
like hear and me were so connected. No, it's like it was like
something she's so special. But it's like he was talking about it in a
much different way and it just felt like, dude, you stop talking.
You're really around his face in this. Yeah. No, I I liked
we kind of forgot to mention that that chess scene, and then just when
he's having that drink, he's like, I haven't had a real drink in
ten years. It's just I don't know. It was I like any time,
not just Fastbender or McAvoy get that one on one, but just those
two characters. It's just whether it's Patrick Stewart McKellen, it's just I don't
know. There are two probably like my favorite like duo in the X Men
series, because there's so it's so much like conflict and chemistry all at the
same time, and it's just I don't know. It's a great little Yeah.
Yeah, I agree as well too. I don't really have much to
they're not getting that body out. And then and that's beast Is beating the
ship out of Magneto. He's he's strangling he's strangling him underwater and hitting his
head against the cement at the same time. But then Magnio just passion to
the Christis and then shows him to the world. And I was a little
I don't know, I wasn't sold by it. I feel like, no,
I I agree with that. It's just like I feel like Magneto would
have been pretty upset that he ravaged him in the water like that, and
he could have just killed him right there. I don't think Magneil's still for
killing though, right, he is for a mystique because that is about killing
everybody. But I don't think he willly nearly wants to kill especially mutants.
Yeah. Yeah, in the plane when he was made a big point of
he even threw out Man She all these characters that's still stuck with Charles when
he left that died. So yeah, so he's still he still cares about
mutants. No, yeah, that's fair. Yeah, I wasn't thinking of
that at this point, Mystique sneaks away. She turns into a bunch of
different people Magnil's looking for. And then this is like the in this timeline,
a real confirmation for the public that mutes exist because there's reporters everywhere they
see beast. Beast just gets out of that somehow. I even like how
they do, like the old seventies video footage of them finding out these mutantes,
like Mystique is falling from the plane, I mean from the building.
Yeah, they do a good job. I like all the tired too in
the seventies. Make Neil's rocking a scarf a few times on this movies.
It's great. So once again fast Beener with the great fashion choices. Yeah,
I know, I agree with you. I don't know. I feel
like I might like his sixties looks this okay, And at this point Mystiques
goes away, she'd go she changed back to Raven. So she's in the
hospital. I like that scene because the nurse again I didn't have sub tells.
Luckily I speak French, like I kind of understand. Majority of what
they're saying is just like because they're they're watching like the event. And then
she's like oh, like the same wound or whatever. But it's like the
like the irony of that happening or whatever, and it's just like, ah,
like when did you learn to speak French? My mom's French and outside
of the family, and then I went to French immersion school. There you
go. He did mention this last time. I didn't. I don't think
I'm last. He doesn't listen to me, no, because he has real
French and his blood. He's not some poser like you pose or I send
French than I do. Travis just gets mad if I don't respond to him,
so he thinks I'm sort of poser French person, so he sends me
he is, but it's super annoying. It's because I went to Quebeca once
and enjoyed it a lot and had a great time. You could ask Emily
when he came and say, oh, Quebec this and Quebec that the way
they do it here. And he's coming back and he's listening to French radio.
It's like, get the fuck off your soap box over here. He
has a kevik. Yeah, he was in that culture. He could go
to his house. There's his bag ates all over the wall. I'm like,
get these out of here. I'm joking that that that was a lie
with the radio French. The radio thing was there's more of a croissant guy,
isn't he. Yeah, or pagan, I don't believe anything. Tato's
an alien, that's what he is. Yeah, so mystiques with that,
Doctor Magneto's uh sewing himself up, uh stitching. And we also forgot to
mention when he goes to get mystique, he also takes all the the I
don't know the projector film. I guess I forgot about that cause he was
watching it later. I didn't understand where you got that film from. I
was sure if they were just showing it on the news and that's where he
was watching it. But yeah, that makes a lot more sense. And
the sounds are still all the same from X one. But when he gets
that or when he wraps Beast up, I still love the metal sounds.
When the metal is moving, it's just ominous. It's good we get to
the X men. Oh and at this point too, we also have back
in the present day. Bobby is like, we got to get her out
of there. She's bleeding a lot, and he just says no one.
He just says that, you know, this is our last chance. And
you have to say, may Needle's holding Wolverine down now, so yeah,
it was quite the gash, but we need to strap him down. Yeah.
They just say like, this is our only chance, so sorry,
we're not taking her out, and he has to stay in or it might
get even worse, which it's not. Really, you're about to die.
There's no nothing worse than this, Xavier. I'm not much of a medical
person, but couldn't Bobby like kind of like freeze the wound or something.
But then wouldn't she get super fucking cold though she's Yeah, would not be
good. Like I prefixed before, I said, I wasn't much of a
medical person. I always forget the fire guy's name because he's just a Johnny
Storm rip up. He couldn't he? No, No, the guy in
this one, he know he I don't know his full name. I have
to look it up. He's not a very popular xcen. But couldn't he
he could cauze? Yes, there you go. That could definitely work,
and then Bobby can ice it. It would hurt a lot, but it
could work. Yeah. And then at this point they get back to the
mansion, Charles collapses. His legs are hurting. He's getting hit with the
sever's disease, so he needs some hit and Wolverine gives them kind of a
pep talk of you know you, we need you. We don't this whatever
this version is of you, it's not working out. We need the real
Charles Xavier. It's a much better speech than what I'm saying, but that's
pretty much the point of we're not gonna find her with you like this brings
back the seerum, the cure meth, and he has the needle in his
vein too. He was close, and he decides not to. He asks
Beast to go get him his chair. They head down to Cerebro the first
time. Does Dog go well because it's just information overload for him because he
has not used his powers and we don't know how long but a few years
now. And that's and that's one thing I do like when wolver he goes
when he did fall, Beast runs up, gets his cure and Xavier goes,
oh, we're we're not gonna get her back, and Wolverine goes,
you don't know that. And because his powers are starting to sleep and he
goes, you don't believe that, do you? And then I just like
that little touch of this. Powers were slowly coming back, and he called
Wolverine out and he goes to Rebro doesn't go, well, the machine's popping
off and everything, and Beast says, oh, I'll check the Breaker,
and then he goes. Wolverine goes, oh, it's not the Breaker and
sets up two of my favorite scenes in this movie. First scene, so
they established they're gonna use Logan's mind as a bridge so they can talk to
one another. Two Xavier, the Old and the Young. First, this
is one of my favorite scenes in all of X Men, when he goes
to read Logan's mind to get the Xavier. But before he gets the Xavier,
he just sees the whole life that Logan's had. It's fantastic. That's
where I like that, even though yeah, origins not a good movie.
They use his bone claws getting broken, they show Gene, they show him
killing Gene, and one just the music that quick cuts, the way it
was edited was really good. But then McVoy just sells it a million percent
when he's just he's just you, poor man, like he feels because at
that point in the movie, he's still been giving Logan quite a bit of
shit, like they're they're not friendly, they're working together, but this is
the first time you really feel that he feels something for Wolverine, who this
guy just met, and just like, I don't want your future, and
he's just like, look past that, you know, look past everything.
Oh yeah, and then he gets to Xavier. But I love that scene
has always won my favorites because they could have easily just done that Xavier thing,
right, Oh, he goes right to Xavier. But whoever director writer
said no, no, no, we should add that in. That's just
like fans service. That is perfection because it makes everything worth and it just
it puts so much weight on Xavier and Logan in that moment. So and
then there's a great conversation with him Xavier. So yeah, no, I
one hundred percent agree with you. I like the Xavier conversation. That's probably
when my favorite seens this entire movie. But like before that, just the
at tension of detail of throwing even like an origin scene in there, and
like just all of the stuff with Gene, like it's just this is obviously
we've all just watched this recently because of this retro. But it's just I
don't know, like, if if you didn't binge watch all those movies,
you'd probably miss like a scene or something. It was just great scene,
just like all the shit that he went through in these last couple movies,
and it's just it was so great. And then, like you said,
McVoy just sold it so well. It's just it's so like up to this
point he's just been a junkie, you know, like he's just like,
I don't care about your future, like fuck this well uh, and then
it's just like like he's just in awe. It's just, yeah, he
sold it so well. I don't have anything more to add to this.
And then yeah, M Xavier a great conversation of that, just because sometimes
it's so good. You know, people stumble and followusn't mean they've lost their
way, and that comes up a few times. And I just love the
line where old Xavier just says, we need you to hope again. You
know, It's just such a simple sentence but works great. And then finally
they get cerebral, they're cracking down. We get a big gues scene him
Exavier just taking over a bunch of random people in they airport. I was
I love that scene. I know, I know it Like at first I
was kind of laughing. I was like, imagine just being her and you
just like look this. She's like fuck, oh she rocks away and the
guy, like a random guy's just talking. It's just it's kind of funny.
But I don't know, I like the scene like looking back on it
because it's just I don't know, the Exavier's back man like his powers,
and it's just especially when he like projects himself like there so she can see
him. Oh so good, and then uh, I know I'm kind of
jumping ahead, but like when he does the same thing when he when mistakes
about to shoot Trask and then he like portrays him and she's just like get
out of my head. Charles like, oh I love that. I don't
know, I just I loved seeing Charles back and then ad Car great also
just uh like that. Going back to that Xavier like one on one,
I guess I'll call it. There was one line Oh God, I had
it, and then I no, on you know, say, might be
actually because I know I wrote down something for the scene. It might just
be the scene in general. I wanted to brought it because I probably didn't
think I would forget what they were saying. I thought it was a good
scene, lots of lots of heart, pretty quiet over there, Kyle,
Yeah, yeah, it was good. Well Kurklan, thanks thanks for filling
in for me. But I don't have anything in the note that sucks.
Well that's going on Magneto is there's some they have a time conversation with Beast
and whatnot, and that's just more time trial stuff. Whooped you do?
Then we go out and jump over to Magneto, who he's on a rage.
He goes and lines all the sentinels will nettle that. Yeah, I
can agree with some people the logic there. It doesn't really he could control
them but the whole computer system. But whatever, you just go with it.
And then he's also he's on a tear. He's getting his helmet back.
He gets a nice little shout X two and he goes in that safe.
He has the two metal balls floating around. That was such a great
callback. Also when he gets the hell helmet back, I remember when we
watched this last movie about when he uses like the wires to pull the helmet
off. Of Shaw, and I was like, why didn't he just use
his metal powers to do it. I had to bring it up because I
remember when I saw that. I'm like, ah, yeah, but I
guess you could argue maybe it's not the same helmet, you know, yeah,
stretch it is, but he has that Sebastian Shaw had a helmet,
and then he had that red helmet. Yeah, I guess that we never
saw. Oh I agree that it's complete bullshit, but I like your explanation.
We had that red helmet that we never seen this movie with the forks,
and then we have this. I know we didn't get to see the
same outfit, but when he has that like purple style outfit, I know,
I mean, I know, I'm jumping ahead again and just get that
far it. But it looks great. It looks so good, and it's
just like it's made for him, Like just like how it covers his muscles
and everything. It just looks like that's the one suit for him. It's
just, Oh, it looks so great on him. It's right combination of
cloth and armor. And I like the KP he has where it's kind of
a diagonal cape. Yeah. I was gonna mention that too. Yeah,
wavy, it's almost like a shoulder cape like way it's designed, even though
it is a full one. Also, I did remember when I was the
Exavier one on one. I just love when, uh, like young Charles
is explaining just like the burden and pain that it is to just have his
power, and then older Exavier just like talks about like the positives of it.
It's just like we've like we should be so grateful that we have just
like the burden of just taking in all these Obviously I'm butchering at what he
says specifically, but just little flashes of the school, like kids running around.
Yeah. Man, like that scene, like this came up so long,
but I was just getting like emotional just watching it because it's just like,
I don't know, Charles, he's a great character and he's such a
Obviously, the X Men are named after him, so you always think of
the X Men with him, But it's just I don't know, I just
just see him as like the really powerful guy that's running it all. But
like that one scene, it just flushed out that character so much more for
me, and I just I don't know, it just it felt like like
a diamond that I just didn't notice the first time watch this movie, so
like watch it now. It's just I just grew to appreciate it so much,
so I just had to show that because obviously butchered what he specifically said.
But I just love that scene so much. Great scene, right,
how amazing scene. Don't how much Dad know how much that? Uh?
So yeah, he gets all that they are going to Washington, DC now,
and there's one quick little uh moment on the plane. I really like
that. Wolverine goes, hey, I know you've seen a lot of bad
stuff, but you've seen the good stuff. And he specifically says, you
know a storm Scott Geane remember those names because at some point shout out to
Scott yay back. Yeah. But I like that. I like it was
and it also adds to it is a different timeline. But even if you
rewatch X one, x two, Xavier's all like always feel like this overseeing,
always knowing sort of character, and you would imagine that when he does
meet them, which I that's why I think Apocalypse doesn't do a great job
of it should be when he does meet them, he feels the way to
a while Wolverine mentioned that and I feel you you slowly see the young Xavier
and Wolverine's starting to bond in that moment so well, like like when he
mentioned the names obviously, like you said, they truer on Apocalypse, but
at the end of this movie, I kind of like how they throw back
to that. It's just like I I forget specifically what he said, but
it's something like that, like I didn't want to forget the name cheese.
That was a slaughterfest I thought I was. I was holding on my hand
for Travis to come in and save me, and he was just watching me
distinctly. Where you are I know you're talking about the end. I don't
remember. It's when he goes to the office. Yeah, when he sees
Gene and everything, and it's like a really like powerful moment. Then he
goes in and then he's like, are you supposed to be a teaching of
class or whatever? And he's like, I'm I think I like need some
history lesson myself to like catch up one all these things. And he's like,
you're back for real? Then yeah, yeah, he realizes that obviously
Logan in his world has lived to a certain point. But then this is
that old logan coming back. So yeah, yeah, I was hoping you
knew specifically what he's talking about, the gene wolverines. I don't know,
because I don't recall that at all when you're talking. Oh no, I
don't think he says that. No, he does, confident I don't think.
I don't think he does. And I don't think BISA got that body
out of there either. Uh. So they go to the ceremony the sentinel.
He probably would have just sewn him in or something sowed the body to
his fur. Let's go cuman centipeed Charles, Charles, your students are disgusting.
So they go a little bill. They go, yeah, a little
beast. Would you fuck me? I'd fuck me. Uh. They go
to the ceremony where the sentinels are being presented. There was one scene in
the middle where which I guess we've never talked about. There's a scene in
the middle before this. It's a striker and beer Dnklish. They're talking about
because he got some of the DNA. They're looking at it. Tyrnean,
Yeah, Tyrian, And of course he goes, oh you have a son,
don't you. Another always shout out to his show what do you guys
we didn't talk about what do you guys think about Peer Dinglish in this movie?
Actually, I really like Peter Dinglish in this movie. I thought he
did a really good job. He was great. He was great. No,
no, even just his scenes. You know, it's kind of nice
to have. How do I say this in a very PC way? I
don't know your butcher last week? You just like to see that a man
of his stature got a big role like this right word play in there?
It wasn't no, But what other comic? What other movie could you name
other than Austin Powers? Or what movie could you name where Jackass? No,
listen, you don't let me finish it. I'll let you finish.
But Beyonce, what movie could you name that has somebody that suffers from Dwarfism?
Or is you know has I know a TV show and it's called Game
of Thrown? Okay, but I said movie? What movie does that character
play a big role in it? And it's not for comedic relief or made
fun of? Because one thing I do like about the movie they never once
talk about a size. There's no joke they do. What the senators do?
They make like a really like do they Yeah, it's I think it's
at the beginning. I'm gonna i'm gonna double proof. When did you watch
this movie by the way, Okay, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna I'm
gonna bring up I'm gonna bring up all the airplanes it Wolverine and then when
they get the body out and uh, that's in the road cut. Yeah.
No, but the senators, I don't know, they make some sort
of like joke about it. It's really like slight but yeah, I'll show
you and then i'll show you the So Okay, so there is one slight,
but other than that, most people don't do a really good job and
you don't really see that in other movies. Yeah, it's always comedic relief
right there. He's just he's just a person. Yeah, Yeah, that's
all it is. And it's just he's trying to make a better world,
but obviously in a bad way. Yeah. But I also feel like Peter
Dinkler is just such an amazing actor that it's like it's kind of like rare
to get that, obviously, because like the majority of the population doesn't have
like dwarfism or whatever, so to have like such an amazing quality actor with
that, it's I don't know, like if he's a lesser actor and then
he just so happens to have Dwarfism or whatever, it doesn't have that same
effect. Like he's just such a phenomenal actor. Oh yeah, so yeah,
I think he's great. I have nothing more to add because he's just
a great actor. Other than I'm not the biggest fan of him. In
in Findney War, I don't think I remember you. That gets me.
I could have had anyone as gets me every time. And just when I
was watching it the other day before endgame and just like who needs the ox?
Yeah, I don't know if they needed that. And then yeah we
got the big action scene. We can talk about everything here. Mystique's trying
to kill tat Trask. The Sentinels are just killing everybody because Magnia has done
some rewiring. He's taking a whole stadium over to protection. I love that
he just walked on the stame in the first place, and there's just a
guy working his job doing the field and maybe you do anything, tell them
to go away or anything like that. Could you excuse me? He just
puts on his helmet and goes and lots of stuff. You get to see
the sentinels, which how do you like the look of the sentinels the Are
you talking about the future ones or I want to give it to Kyle.
I like the future Sentinels, I think better than the the ogs. But
I think it's only maybe because they develop and get better and look more of
this quasi human form or I guess a better human form. Well, the
future ones definitely have mystique, sprain, fluid and spinal cord. That's less
everything you got every fluid. Would these Sentinels have her DNA or they're just
the seventies one? Yeah, that's why they still have the metal, No,
it's plastic. Have some these ones have metal? Yeah, something which
still doesn't really make any sense because if their computers, he would have metal
in them. Well, and we have to start firing off rounds of machine
guns. Machine gun rounds. Yeah, don't look too fine with it.
I don't like the look of either of them, so I'm also a big
Comboks guy. They don't look anything. They did like some tributes with the
seventies one. They are purple and robotic, but the way they remember next
three when they're in that training room, they cut off the head. There's
just that head that roll up. That's what they're supposed to look like.
It's fine. They did just big like that. Yeah, they did a
different take. I didn't need the and the future ones. Don't bug me
because there's supposed to be a in the future, so it's fine. But
just in general, it's just if I gets them, I don't need those
ones, you know. And then yeah, just lots of stuff happening.
Anything you guys want to shout here, lots of action, great face down,
No, Kyle, it's just great scene. Nothing great great scene between
Wolverine and Magneto that showdown when Wolverine's it's almost like X three when except he
has no metal. This time Wolverine's running Magneal's throwing stuff. He's just such
as like his remark too, He's like, I guess you're not a survivor
or whatever, Yes, swapping away, and then he just takes and it's
a tribute to what I've talked a few times on this retro is that comic
book where he took the Adaman team out of him and just put him down.
This was almost a reverse where he put him down. He put him
like he spread them out on the ground and he puts all those crow bars
through him and he's putting metal through and then just sends them off. And
I do like that that Wolverine and Hugh Jackman Big Star, but he's not
there for the finale. Finale, it's down to Eric Xavier and Mystique.
I like that, and it's a great moment. And I always get reminded
when Charles, like you were talking about earlier Kirkla when he gets there.
I love his speech about whatever happens, he realized that he tried too many
times to force her to do the right thing, and this and that and
whatever happens now is in your hands. I love that. I love the
score throughout the movie, but the score playing when she's making her decision,
it's great. Excuse me. His whole speech with the music always reminds me
of Lord of the Rings at the end when Sam is talking to Froze like,
oh here we are, and they're just showing like air Gorne in the
battle getting wrecked and everybody that was the same thing, where he's just like,
you gotta make a choice, and they just show like Bobby is just
getting melt. Is this the one where he gets melted, because there's two
he gets killed two ways. One time he just cuts his head off,
and then there's one where he gets melted. It was all die in terrible
ways each time. Yeah, no, one hundred percent. Bobby gets his
head cut off because I remember I was hoping that he would just melt because
he's ice. Yeah, but somehow he is. I don't know it just
his head pops off. Yeah, And I did mention at this point too.
In the present, the centelinoles have found our og X men and they're
taking them out one by one. Correct, they through the plane at them
explode it. Unfortunately, a shark hit Magneto, so he's dying too.
So everyone's dying. It's not looking good. And Xavier makes that speech and
Mistique has make the choice, and then she choose to not shoot Trash.
He shoots Eric in the neck, who Eric gets up very easily from getting
shot in the neck, and he's just chilling with his neck wound, so
shouts out to him for his pain tolerance. Goodbye Charles. You know.
I was also surprised that he didn't grab the helmet at the end. I
figured, yeah, I should have. Yeah, yeah, it's always a
good thing to have, you never know, Yeah, I know, I
yeah. Overall, I just love like the fact that Magnio just palls in
the whole stadium. Obviously, there's some uh, some some questions about how
like all the cement would like handle and just like being carried by that much
force, no know, and he can do it. I know, Okay,
I'll just shake my head and go along with it, But I don't
know. I also just liked how like the Coliseum just basically like entrenched the
White House and like there's no way in or out of that thing. I
think it's just like a death ring. Basically, he sets up the sentinels
around it. Again, it posed the question as to how he's like choosing
the sentinels to like, I don't know, like scan for people made too,
but it's like you don't know what they're No, he did because he
had the blueprints. Do how does putting metal in them control their computer systems?
I guess I roll with it. I just go, okay, whatever,
But it is kind of I don't like to think too much about it.
But also like they they're still working the normal way, whereas when they
see mutants, they attack, but he just controls them. So it's like
if they see a mutane doesn't matter because he control their whole skeleton, so
he'll just point them somewhere else, right, So yeah, but yeah,
I don't look at it with a magnifying glass or anything to dissect it.
Yeah, I liked Uh. I already mentioned when McAvoy is in Raven's head
again, like with that final showdown with Trask. It's just I don't know,
I just I just love when he like projects his body and it just
like forces her to basically like shoot Charles, not just Trask. I don't
know. It just puts in that dilemma that she has because it's also he's
not controlling her whatsoever. It's just he's putting the faith in her. And
it's just a really good moment. I really liked it. Yeah, you
already mentioned when MacNeil gets shot in the neck, doesn't really fa and whatsoever?
Champ. Yeah, I feel like I'm missing other things that happen,
Like no, because like when that happens, all goes down, she gets
beasts like a little like whatever, there's still something going on there. She's
all over the map. Uh, And then what happens is at this point
in the present day, all those X men are getting killed off. But
then the switch happens where the Sentinels disappear, like everything starts disappearing. And
then you have Logan who wakes up again and this time, yes, he's
at the school. He sees people running around, he sees Storm teaching a
class. That's great, Bobby and Rogue are back together, Kitty and Colossus
in her class, kind of implying their couple because then a comics there couple.
And then a great moment where he sees he sees a red haired woman
in the doorway and you know, he's he's pretty happy and he even though
we've talked about many times how Scott is not a well written character, it's
such a good moment when he goes to reach for and he goes, hey,
what are you doing this? Classes look so ridiculous in the movie.
I gotta shut that out. Yeah, just a great moment and a great
especially as someone that's a fan of the franchise. It was good to and
it was a good way of you know know, one's a huge, huge
fan of X three, so kind of redid that. I'm always bummed I
get why they didn't do it. I wish we actually did get one more
movie with the og cast, especially after this. I thought it was a
nice setup, but it's fine. They kind of send that off in Logan,
but I think it's a perfect ending this movie of everything going right.
Agreed. Great, I'm a man of many words on this final Yeah,
yeah, no, I agree with you. I also shut out in the
beginning. But following the trend of any time that there's like some sort of
time travel with or not just time travel, just time advancement with Logan always
is the same Hairdoe like you didn't have I know, yeah, but like
his haircut is just like it's the exact same, so it's like, yeah,
I like it. Also, I gotta say, I think this is
my favorite hair he had out of all the movies. I was gonna say
he's the best looking at them. Yeah, it looks like the comics.
So yeah, like I remember we're kind of joking in origins. He just
has like perfect, flowing, like model like hair. It's just like sexiest
man alive hair. But like this is going back to just like the Wolverine
haircut when he's got the little spikes I was trying to picture like Travis with
that hair cut, cause I remember you mentioned you had that it was never
as good because his is clearly still a wig and they it can't move.
I think, actually, yeah, it's a wig or has wig placements where
like the spikes and things will be glued to a certain perfect don't worry.
I tried, yeah, because when you do that with if you have that
short hair, doing that, it just gets when you put that much product
in, it just gets way down. It'll fall down, so it kind
of goes so the way his is so pointy. They're using some special stuff,
but I think it is the best looking one. It's just it just
has a perfect flow going on. What else do you want to talk about?
Hugh jacket, this leather jacket, Oh, so many things, greatest
leather jacket. We haven't even talked about his penis yet, I know.
And then the other thing is we got a beast cameo as well. I
love that. I was. I forgot to take a note about it,
though, but I especially since I have my rs with sorry, what's the
actor's name, Nicholas? Nicholas Holt? Do I die in the future?
You do? But that's not this future. We can fix that, right,
Yeah, yeah, No, I just love that they brought him back,
especially like was it I didn't really get a good look at him.
Was did they just like c g I in there or was it actually him?
No? What's Kelsey Grammer? He there? I have some Tribu was
supposed to be there a little bit more, but he was filming a Transformers
movie, so they did. When they did reshots or reshoots, they brought
him to do that. I'm glad they did. He really wanted to do
that because he was a big fan of that character. And it's such a
shame we didn't get more of him just that one movie. Yeah, I
loved him. Hey, you cherish it more? Oh boy? God?
Uh. And then the last scene, which I hate is you have them
they find Logan in the water in the past because Alex they was saying what
happened, telling the New the New Presence, last Future, uh and past
and Striker for some reason, mystique Striker. I don't know why they made
that choice, and they never explain it in Apocalypse, so you just kind
of assume that. Okay, So for some reason, Raven put Wolverine in
the weapon X program and it's just a terrible person. They never an apocalypse
is just one line of Striker being like, remember those times you were like
impersonating me? I remember those and I'm still not a fan, and it's
like, okay, so it was I just think I have trivia notes on.
Maybe I didn't put in the trivia, but they did that because they
didn't want to be a sad ending. But then to me, it's just
just don't put the scene of Striker finding him, just leave, or just
put reverse and where Striker finds him and then go in the future because we
know he's gonna get that out of Manti. That's not a sad scene to
me, it's a cool setup of Oh no, because Beast explains at one
point when in the Time Trial, I skipped over but it was fun where
he says, yeah, time travel is like a river. You can throw
pebble and there's ripples, but eventually the stream corrects itself and it all goes
that way, and then ex series, I don't believe that theory, and
that one goes yeah, flows one way, but yeah, like and then
it corrects itself eventually. Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, Because the
point is what I'm trying to get to is and then Xavier says, I
don't believe that. So they're both proven right because Xavier's way as well,
they proved mistique can change and you can throw a big enough rock that would
change the tide or whatnot forever. But to me, his logan's was still
the same thing until it's still the same, but with Mystique being in there,
I don't know why she's there, but shows that no matter what,
they changed all this stuff, but at the end of day, he's always
gonna end up going through that program and going through a terrible time, you
know. So I don't think they added some sort of twist of mistique behind
it. I never understand. I was not happy with it whatsoever. Like
first I watched it, I don't remember him being Mystique, So I remember
it better that way, because, like I guess, I understand they didn't
want to make it as like a sad ending. But at the same time,
oh, that's that's his future, and if they want to redo origins,
they can because it's like he has to get that audemantium, right,
So why I Yeah, Like when I saw the Eyes, I was like,
it just put a sour taste in my mouth. Like, I just
wasn't happy with it. It just didn't make sense because what's mystiq gonna do
with him? Like, and they never explained, No, it's it's garbage,
garbage, anything else say about the movie freakin trivia. Uh and credit
scene and sour yeah sets up Apocalypse. Yeah, I didn't watch it.
No, it was it was great, great and crits I didn't know and
crits scene. It was one of those moments that the credits were rolling.
I was just like probably looking at memes or something or like finishing up notes
and then that came on. I'm like watching something else. Then that the
Apocalypse. Something happened. Probably excited today Kevin Fagi has Apocalypse and we get
the real version done right because Apocalypse. I don't think it's a terrible movie.
We're gonna I'll quickly talk about when we get into rankings, but uh,
it's not. Apocalypse is one of the he's a fan also level bad
for the X Men, and he's not treated that way. And he's not
a guy you kill off in one movie. So that's what I was gonna
say. Like the Kevin Faggy mc U if they get there like the Thanos
tear villain, I think of like apocalypse. So yeah, oh that that's
gyrating. Hopefully let's get some trivia. The filmmakers decided the Days of Future
Past storyline because it would allow the filmmakers to reconcile any continuity to uh problems
within the X Men film universe, and the time travel element also allowed actresses
and actors from three movies and first Class all pear in the same movie together.
So I like that it wasn't some you know, some bullshit reason.
They're like, yeah, we know, we gotta fix stuff. And we
also just because this was also after Avengers, so to me this was I
remember, oh their version of they're putting all these people together right at the
end of the day. It was really just Xavier and Xavier and then we'll
ring with Jackman and like with Xavier with Xavier, yeah, old Xavier and
young and then other than that, it was just Jackman with the other cast.
There's no other crossover. But when they announced, it's like, oh
man, they're all gonna be No, it's it's just it's just the few.
So uh, Sir Patrick Stewart, Andy and McKellen were performing a tooing
production of Waiting for goad Art when Ryan Singer approached the actors about reprising their
respective roles. According to McKellen, both men were utterly shocked as they thought
they had passed their roles on to macawy Ande Fastbender and would never play the
characters again. Stuart McKellen were delighted to return to the two of the most
popular roles and to work with the younger actors at the same time. So
cool, awesome. Yeah. So, originally Josh Hillman, who was the
young William Striker, he was cast as Kane Marko aka the Juggernaut, but
the Juggernaut was written out of the movie. Good, So would they not
have had young Striker in this movie? Actually that wouldn't be that bad.
Well, because well here I'll tell you, I don't think Striker would have
been hang on two things, fuck you Mike, and then second of all,
I don't think Striker would been written out of the movie. This is
why you can say it's not that bad. But what the plan was the
originally what is happening here? Originally there and break scene was conceived with Juggernaut
in mind, so he would have been doing it. He was meant to
be a football player at the X Mansion. However, he was replaced with
Quickseillers. Her powers seemed more stylish and smooth. So do you still want
Juggernaut now to it lose that Quickseiller scene? No, that's why I told
you not good. We saw that and already in X two, Yeah,
X three, X three. Danny Houston, who played Striker in origins,
was unable to return his young William Striker, so they were going to bring
him back, even though I feel like he was not that young to play
that role. But no, fair enough okay. For her role as Mostique,
Jeniferlawrence ro a special body suit. She had previously done full body prosthetics
for X and First Class but found it too uncomfortable. So there you go.
Not committed to the role, not at all. Let's see Jason Flynn,
who played Hissasil, was originally in the script, but when Vaughn,
which I have some news about after left the storyline and was dropped in Favorite
Time Travel and Crossover because it was going to focus more on the OG First
Class characters, but of course still appears in the op Topsy reports as a
Saizel so good for him. Matthew Vaughan, who directed First Class, was
supposed to return to this movie, but he declined in order to make Kingsman
the Secret Service. Wow, good for him. It's like a movie,
isn't that. Kingsman is a good movie, that was the first one right
before. Yeah, yeah, no, it's good. I just don't know
if it's I wouldn't go good for him. It's all come down to taste.
I would still choose to direct X Men over Kingsman. Yeah it is.
But the weird thing is it he left his own sequel. That's the
thing that's weird to me. Maybe he didn't really like it. Yeah,
yeah, maybe he wasn't int X Men like you are, like we are.
Oh, it's great, like we are. I just think it's weird.
I think it's weird that you got in a franchise and just dropped it,
you know. So. Coran Bryan Singermun's, Rachel Summers Silocked, Deadpool,
Nightcrawler, Gambut, and Julie were meant to appear in this film,
but we're cut out for running time purposes. So I do not know what
Deadpool would have been doing in this movie. I don't think it would have
been the Deadpool we thing. But is that WE weapon X Yeah? Yeah,
a romantic and this is in the DVD or there's a lead scene.
A romantic subplot between Storm and Wolverine in the future was film but cut for
time purposes, thank god. So right before Low, right before Lowing goes
and lays down and get said back in time, Storm and him are just
knna have the scene of talking and you think it's just regular Wolverine Storm,
you know, just going over game plans, and then they start making out.
M I'm fine without it. I kind of like that wrinkle. I
don't know why, because they've have been a couple in the past before in
comic books, so do you have it in the movies that don't really talk
about a relationship like that, So would have been kind of off, especially
how they go off on how Wolverine likes Jeene so much. Fair enough.
Yeah, let's see what you're getting at. Let's see all the original first
class people were to be brought back till the creators decided to go with Days
of Future pass So, like I said, shitty for shitty for that cameos
the Cyclops and Jean Gray were so tightly guarded. The actor and actress as
well as director outright lied about their appearance and the movies to keep their turns
were surprised. That's nothing new. But the other thing I want to add,
it's not in the IMDb trivia, but they had to I think,
physically drive down to Vancouver and they had to be It was literally like a
day of thing. How they got them down there and it was not last
minute, but the way they did it sounded like it was quite a pain
to sneak them in there because that was one thing that didn't leak before the
movie came out. So they did a good job. So I already talk
about Kelsey Grammar. It was his film in Vancouver. I think some parts
okay In Days of Future Past comic mystique tried to assassinate Senator Robert Kelly instead
of trash. You remember Senator Kelly bring all back to X N one good
times. So and then I mean last two trivia effects are about the original
cut that had Rogan it. So when Wolverine injures. When Wolverine, I
don't know why today I could tell you, but I don't even let you
struggle. Why tell me why because the bolt is loose, I know,
but it's never been the It sometimes decides wind it wants to be loose when
it's not. It's what you gotta do maintenance on your mics. Man,
well, and you come over and do it. You don't have the tools,
you can bring them. Uh. And the original cut, Wolverine injures
Kitty Prye after encountering Striker Blah Blah blah. Kitty was bled to the point
where she could no longer hold Wolverine. Iceman will reveal that Rogue, long
thought dead by Xavier, was actually being held in one place he never could
telepathing locate her cerebro. To ensure Wolverine could complete his mission, Iceman,
Mayneil, and Professor x return to the X Mansion, which has been taken
overight trask Industries to rescue Rogue so she can absorb Kitty's powers. Iceman was
to die in the rescue, and the ex Jet has to fight off several
sentinels. These scenes are explained more clearly how the Sentinols are able to trick
or track the remaining X Men. Part of the sentinals remaine on the jet,
enabling the others to follow the jet back to China, leaning to the
final battle. Portions of the sequels appearing trailers. These scenes were fully restored
for the extended edition. I think it's a weird uh. I can see
why they cut it because it don't sounds like a half an hour least.
No, it was only a I think it was only like five to ten
minutes really, so there's like a lot going on that sounds like, well,
my whole thing is because I've always remembered I've never actually watched the whole
road cut for me, I just because I heard the scene and even then
again reading it, where so she's locked up in Cerebro and Xavier thought she's
been long dead, but Bobby knows she's being help captive there. It just
felt like he got an out to go be with that kitty. You know,
she got kidnapped, and oh yeah, Rogue's dead, Kitty's injured.
I don't want that. Yeah, yeah, I want something fresh or rogues
say. So, it's just a weird setup, so I can see why
they cut it. I think it was tough because they said they didn't want
to cut her because it's Rogue and she was an original member. But whatever,
he gave her love at the end. You know, that was just
weird. And then Bobby dies at the X Mansion too. That's a whole
change as well. So and then the other thing was just also in the
road cut before uh, let's see, uh trying to find out a sequence
where a Mistie I don't think it gives me the time. There's a sequence
where a Mistique returns the X Mansion. Okay, Yeah, so after the
Paris scene where Xavier talks to her, Mystique returns the X Mansion and the
sequence Wolvering would explain the origin and Sentinels future war, Mystique would have a
romantic encounter with Beast carry over the subclock with the X Men Origin or X
Men First Class. The scene was cut for runtime purposes, so and I
think that makes sense because it's strange for her to go to the X Mansion.
Yeah, come to the X Mansion. Then she goes there, and
then she still goes to Washington, So yeah, that is strange. All
the cuts were good cuts. I think. I agree. Sweet Kyle,
what are you gonna rate this movie? What do you think it's a great
movie? I think it's it's an okay movie. You think it's an okay
movie? Yeah? Really, yeah, you know, I think it could
be better. There's some things that I didn't really like, like what you
didn't tell me them. I don't have to tell you anything. Wow,
No, just kidding. I really like this movie. I thought it was
great, amazing. Travis has giving me this rolling his eyes like I can't
believe you. Please stop talking. Oh no, I thought this amazing.
This is amazing, this amazing good thing that is one of your last cast
is you're going out strong. I'm going out real strong, ladies and gentlemen.
This film it was incredible. It really tied up. I don't believe
you anymore. Any issues that I had before, Like they're like like X
three or Wolverine origins or like kind of the major issues that you know we've
always talked about and like I've really bitched about on the cast this movie Like
no bitching at all. I don't really have any bad issues with this movie
at all. I think it is a really good, well rounded, uh
put everything together movie for me. So uh for a rating, I would
give this movie is nine and a half out of ten. Where's You're not
the perfect? Ten? Where is that not the perfect ten. Yeah,
where's that point five? What's the point five? What's the negative? Uh?
You know you'll find it pick up the body? They didn't pick up.
No, not, you'll find on the rankings Episode's on the ranking episode.
Oh, they got to listen into listen to the ranking episodes. Because
Logan for me, is a perfect ten out of ten movie. But then
what makes you can still have other movies that are perfect ten out of ten?
Suicide Squad? What is the because this is you can't save your critique
for this movie for the next cast? What is the critique? I guess
like for me, it's just the the end. I wasn't like it was
good, but the end of the movie wasn't the great. What part of
the end? What part of the end? Yeah, I don't know.
It's it's nine and a half. It is. Oh wow, just a
call. It's hard. It's hard to get a perfect ten out of ten
movie for me. It's not really that hard. Logan is the ten out
ten movie for me. But no, it was good. Sorry, hmm,
okay, are you going there? You go? Yeah, just to
piggyback on that, I will give it a ten because I think it is
a perfect X Men movie in this realm of the x Me movies, I
don't really have any problems other than maybe like an eye roll of Magneto and
the Sentinels here and there. I love this movie. It's fantastic. I
watched this over and over. Great character moments, great action, but really
it's just the characters they're developing. But also, just like we talked about
these little moments with Wolverine and Xavier when he has the mind reading, there's
lots of good callbacks. And yeah, it's great that it kind of cleans
up all the messes, but that didn't really matter now in retrospect that this
franchise is over. So yeah, I think this is easily the best out
of the whole bunch as far as the X Men movies of team movies.
So yeah, I agree. I think is the best out of all of
all the movies the X Men franchise had to offer. It just cleaned up
so many questions that we were scratching our head about, like on the previous
just convoluted timelines and just things that didn't link up. It just, I
don't know, it fixed a lot of those things. I don't think it
was a perfect movie. I, like I already said, it is definitely
my favorite out of all of them. But there was a few things that
just kind of didn't sit right with me, and I didn't just let them
like they're pretty minor, but they weren't minor enough for me to just forget
about them. What are they? I was really scared someone was gonna ask
because I can't quite remember them. Wow, what is going on? The
users can rewind when I was bitching about a certain part of this movie that
I don't remember at this point. The only other issue that I think you
came kind of not agreed was when we're kind of confused with the first body
the body, No, when not the body, when Xavier is kind of
just walking around, and maybe at the beginning there where there's just like see
that part I had troubles with until Beasts explained it. Until Beasts explained it,
because then it made sense to me. I don't know, it's just
reaching. No. I I appreciate it because Travis is not helping me,
but whatsoever, of course not, he doesn't ever do that. You guys
are growing adults. You guys live on your own pay rent. I should
I moved home I should I actually just moved home. I should not have
to hold your hand and remember what your negatives are of a I got to
focus on my review. Yeah, I'm gonna give it a nine and a
half. I agree with Kyle. It's I don't know. If it was
a perfect ten out of ten, it would I would feel super powerful about
that ten. But I'm not feeling super powerful in that ten right now,
So I'm gonna give a nine and a half. I guess for me,
when I rewatched this movie over and over again, no, no, non,
why not? Why not? I was Don't get me wrong, it
was good. I think there's a lot of aspects to it that it was
amazing. But again, for a complete movie, I wouldn't just go keep
rewatching it over and over again. Yeah, I feel like I kinda this
might be a controversial comment, but I feel like I wasn't in love with
Magneto this movie like I was in first Class because in first Class I see
that like you can understand It's like that's my point five right there. I
feel like Magneto is just like you can understand every like every every decision and
just his point of view in first class because they kind of explained it,
whereas this one, you understand the goal of why he joins with them because
obviously everyone's fucked in the end, so he's forced to. But then after
the like after the mystique thing happens at the Paris conference and he kind of
just goes after and like sure, like there I understand his motives of that's
the simplest way to just finish it. But like then near the end when
he's about to just execute like all the humans on TV, like I feel
like he's just he's just selling his own doom there and it's just making a
statement. It just doesn't make well, like he's assuming himself but the Sentinel
program will just wipe them out in the future. But I guess he's trying
to take control of it, because to me, it always makes sense that
so that Magno never really does that. He does things to try and turn
humans into munes or this and that. But the reason he's doing that is
because he knows that if they just stay on this path or he's trying to
make a difference slowly, they're just gonna end up losing this big war.
So then what's what's it gonna do? By him. Does he just think
that he can just well, I guess take over before they do, right,
So okay, if he gets the Sentinels, you know, there's still
a chance he could get taken out. But I guess it's the idea of
if they get the sentinels, just take us all out. We're destined to
lose, so we got to take I have to take them out before anybody
else does. That's the way I've always taken. Yeah, okay, I
understand that point. But for me, I wasn't. It's hard to follow.
It wasn't a ten out of ten like movie for things like that,
where it's it's not one hundred percent selling me on it, Like I can
kind of stretch and okay, I'll kind of do an iroll or whatever,
just turn I don't know, just stuff like that. Yeah, very minor
though, Like that's the reason it's only a point five, Like it's a
nine and a half movie out of ten to me. Anything else say,
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fucking bodies. Great great great. Next will be the ranking episode and
I'll be closing out this retrospective. So until next time, have an exceptional
day. Nice Where were you called? Good work? We were looking at
each other trying to figure out what experts is exceptional. Though I think I
did, It's too late. Now have an excitable day. Exciting day,