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Hey, everybody, Jason Burmis here
and for the next hour or so,

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we're gonna have a really interesting program. If you caught my coverage of world

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Coin and Sam Altman and the ORB, I could not help but equate the

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ORB to the Lochnar, the orb
of evil. And there it is right

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there. I'm gonna put myself behind
it. You're watching heavy metal and although

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in reality it resembles more like the
phantasm murder Orb, the Lochnar is the

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orb of evil. It is the
eternal darkness that surrounds us. And it

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just made me think of this film
so many ways over because it starts off

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really interestingly where basically you're on this
journey to Earth with a space man you

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know, this is nineteen eighty two, and you get down and immediately murder,

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imediately murder. This is a cartoon. You're kind of like, WHOA,

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what is going on here? This
is before the time of anime,

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and then it reveals to you that
it is literally the eternal evil that influences

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the universe and the darkness you can't
get rid of. So to me,

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a device that literally takes your biometric
information in order to give you a universal

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basic income and one day hopefully ensure
the democratic process is that orb of evil.

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I thought to myself, who can
I break this down with? Jay

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Dyer? Jay Dyer loves his movies, loves his pop culture, loves his

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religious overtones, and he is the
first person I thought of when I thought

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about this comparison. Jay, Thank
you so much for joining us. Myself,

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my first experience with heavy metal was
probably way too young. I was

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about nine or ten years old.
Downstairs from us my aunt and her husband

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lived and he had some bootleg VHS
copy. I was probably nine or ten

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years old. Now, obviously I
am not going out and telling my audience

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to go show this film to a
nine or ten year old. It is

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extremely sexually explicit, a lot of
drug over and undertones as well, But

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at the end of the day,
it is this kind of multiple allegory story

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for good and evil, and you
know, it stuck with me my entire

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life. It got parodied later by
South Park. It is part of I

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think the underground cultural zeitgeist. If
you will, When did you first see

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it and what were your first like
initial you know, responses to it?

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Yeah, I saw it in high
school and I'm glad that you picked this

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because it's really an overlooked kind of
niche genius in a way. Genre people

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have forgotten about these eighties nineties era. You know sci fi, fantasy,

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you know cartoon movies that came out. There was quite a few of these.

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There's Gone to Horror, Fire and
Ice, Forbidden Planet, heavy Metal,

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And actually I grew up in high
school with my best buddy, who

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was a big comic book dude.
He ended up becoming an actual professional comic

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book artist, so actually he was
a metal head. He was a comic

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book dude. So I grew up
watching all of these movies. We go

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over to his house. I remember
being bombed out of my mind smoking weed

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watching Heavy Metal in high school,
probably ninth grade. I don't I don't

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remember anything about I mean, I
remember sequences, I remember John Candy doing

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the voices. I remember different you
know, the robot scene, the robot

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sex scene. I remember the chick
taking a nude bath. But I had

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no idea like the meaning, the
significance, And yeah, you absolutely right

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to highlight kind of the gnostic parallels. I wrote down a lot of notes

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about that, A lot of weird
cultural stuff going on at that time.

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Too, where this tied into this
sort of metal was getting really big,

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right, I mean, metal comes
out of you know, late seventies,

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Black Sabbath ton of type of stuff. It's starting to really kick off.

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And there was this appeal that you
know, science fiction and fantasy had tied

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to metal that was often tied to
like you said, like you know,

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just like big Buzzomi chicks. You
know, it was just such an eighties

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thing, and I think it's just
funny on so many levels, even beyond

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the religious, to look at the
you know, what's considered a babe,

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you know, post Kardashian, right, it moves from you know, big

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boobs in the seventies and eighties to
nowadays post Kardashian it's all about that ass,

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you know. So it's just weird
to see the cultural changes. Another

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cultural shift too, and i'll let
you have the floor back, was that

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you had this stuff coming out in
the eighties and it was really popular in

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these underground circles, this this style
stuff, but it all kind of eventually

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gave way to anime, and so
by the late mid to late nineties you

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get ghosts in the Shell, you
get underground popular anime things and then you

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start seeing Meohyazaki's stuff getting popular,
Disney buys his studio up, and then

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anime stuff just seems to flood the
West. And I have my own theories

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about why that might be. But
yeah, so this is basically pre anime.

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When when you have this cartoon stuff
wedded to heavy metal, I mean,

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you're not wrong. Especially you know, Akira would probably be the most

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culturally significant. I think that came
out either late eighties or early nineties for

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that anime era, and really,
in my opinion, took a lot away

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from some of the sequences in heavy
metal, especially the animation styles. Obviously

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it had a little bit more of
that Asian overtone and look, but when

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you look at like the Monster specifically, it's very reminiscent of some of the

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art style. So you know you
mentioned John Candy, okay, and that's

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what is another really unique aspect about
this film. You know, big metal

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names. You said, Black Sabbath
there on. There there's other background stories.

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Blue Oyster Cult was supposed to get
a song. I think that they

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weren't able to do it because it
was too much of a giveaway of the

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story it was supposed to be about. It was written about the baseline that

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wraps the whole story up, so
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time. John Candy, you know, at the time, I'm thinking to

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myself, wow, he was a
huge actor, Uncle Buck, and you

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know, kind of you're a kid, and he's a comedic like family actor.

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And so, like, the first
story that gets told is, you

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know, you got this geeky kid
and for some reason, you know,

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you've already watched the Lochnar destroy a
bunch of things in the very first ten

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fifteen minutes. You realize basically you
interact with it and you could just die.

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And somehow this geeky kid finds what
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back of his yard and he's able
to interact with the Lochnar for some reason.

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And you know, and that's what
I love about this story. It's

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got like everything. It's like this
kid's fantasy because the Lochnar sucks him into

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this pagan universe where it's your worshiped. The setup as he's talking about how

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in some worlds I'm worshiped to the
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is essentially this pagan like sacrifice,
and he realizes he's no longer this geeky

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kid, but he's got this crazy
heroic body and he rescues her. And

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from this journey of rescuing her,
you meet these two kind of archetypes that

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are trying to harness the power.
And you know, long story short,

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on this one, he doesn't succumb
to the lust for the Lochnar. He

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looks at what he's already been given
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got this great looking girl. He's
jacked. He doesn't want to go back

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home, but he definitely doesn't want
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Lochnar even mentions, even when people
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know, this is the this is
really like, Oh well, I mean,

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don't get me wrong, there's some
anti hero stories in here, and

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they eventually, in my opinion,
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into that, but this one essentially
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hero and he leaves with the girl
and he but the Lolachnar says, even

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when they can resist my power,
I don't lose any I go on and

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he just finds his next victim.
Well, what did you think about that?

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First? Sequence. Yeah, so
we had this setup, like you

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said, when the orb appears,
it kills a spaceman and it talks to

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this young girl and says, you
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idea that she's she's singled out.
She's probably chosen for something. He gets

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explained later, and he explains that
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all evils, so all the worlds
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that exist. So we're already having
multiverse stuff, right, This concentrated evil

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is the god of all of those
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violence, deformity, chaos, et
cetera. Up and so it's just

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that's weird because from the outset,
the appearance of a being like this,

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you know, if we have the
biblical narrative, that would be Satan,

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but we later on find out that
it's more of a nastic presentation because this

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is the being that runs the universes, and that at one point actually causes

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one of the characters to tell the
truth when it's when they're coming when that

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it's when they're coming out against Captain
Stern. But there's one a couple of

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elements that I think are worth mentioning
before we get into the esoteric stuff,

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which is I didn't realize it until
this sequence. The first sequence with the

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New York Cabby. Did you notice
how similar all of that was to Fifth

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Element? I think, yeah,
there's actually videos on that that it is

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similar. Luc based on must have
just basically kind of borrowed or whoever wrote

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that from. You know, this
this an opening sequence where we find out

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that in future dystopian New York there's
deals between they basically space crime. It

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looks organized space crime with like the
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uh, you know even in the
Element, the Bruce Willis character is a

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Cabby, and you have this Cabby
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from from these Venusians and she's basically
like Miladjovivic, the Leelu character, the

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multi Pass character. Anyway, all
that was really weird. But when you

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get to the next sequence, which
was the John Candy character is a nerdy

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kid who's given all of this power
and status in this alternate universe, I

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kind of think they're taking a dig
at their typical reader base, right,

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because they're basically saying, look,
nerdy dudes to live in the fantasy world

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where they get the chicks and where
they're you know, buff is all get

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out. And the other element that
you said is which is correct, which

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is that that world that he goes
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a power that you can harness through
all kinds of work ship, all kinds

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of ritual magic, including human sacrifice, because what's going on there is not

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just him, it's also sex magic. Later on they use a honeypot thing

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where they deflect to get the lochnar
back for that sort of Greek he looks

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like a gay Greek god to do
this, like trying to get the John

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Candy character to get the lochnar back
for him, very much like an Apollo

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kind of character. But yeah,
yeah, I think they're hinting at all

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of the pagan religions, all the
Greek paganism, human sacrifice, all of

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these are means by which in a
neo pagan universe you can harness this power

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of the gods, turn it to
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we kind of have at the outside, there's not objective good and evil evil.

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Good and evil are relative to whoever
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the God, and God is something
that you can become through mastering, you

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know, these practices, whether science
fiction EXCU mean, whether science and technology,

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or whether occult practices. So that's
what we're being set up for.

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And then it kind of moves to
these different sequences, like you said of

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worlds where the Lochnar is basically explaining
to the girl at the beginning that it

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is the power and the god of
all the universes and it can't be overcome.

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Yeah, again, it's doing that
for a reason. But you know,

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you know, you talked about once
again the New York City sequence,

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right, and I did skip over
that. And first of all, I

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think that's obviously an amazing sequence because
it's kind of like taking from the old

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noir detective feel and you know,
the narrator there, but instead it's this

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Cabby and like you said, there's
a lot of parallels you could say with

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the fifth Element. But ultimately the
Lochnar is going to be on display in

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New York City. There's even a
mention of the United Nations how it's been

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turned into low incoming how say,
Yeah, there's a dig on quote unquote

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illegal aliens. Only instead of you
know, them talking about how many people

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have migrated there, they're talking about
aliens. So you know, there's definitely

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some cultural relevance there that you know, the people would look at now and

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go maybe a little cringey, but
at the same time, that is how

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the feeling was, you know what
I mean that where was where the culture

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was. And then it moves into
you know, the story where this thing

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is supposed to be on display and
somehow, you know, the daughter of

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the scientist who is going to put
it on display gets it. And here's

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another one of these tales where like
the hero character is kind of an anti

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hero, right, but at the
end, the lochnar is able to tempt

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the one woman and with greed,
right, she gives it up for greed

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and then turns on the guy.
And the moral of the story is,

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you know, don't do that either. You know, there's all these moral

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tales because he ends up taking this
woman out, someone who you know,

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obviously he was not only helping,
but you know she kind of condom with

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a sexual relationship to help up to
help her get what she wanted. So

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again, more moral tales of how
like the lochnar is corrupting all of these

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people, you know, and he
even says it. You know, she

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wasn't so bad. She just got
a little greedy as all, you know.

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And at the other end, he
didn't really have to kill her.

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Yeah, it's a relativesed ethic,
which is weird. And the god figure

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the deity, it's more like the
notion that God is a kind of a

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technology, and it's a technology that
is attainable by nosith or will to power.

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So basically anybody or anything can become
the God or become the entity if

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it can attain this apotheosis deified status
through whatever the means are. And there's

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different ways of doing this in different, multiple different universes. Right, And

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so we see a relativized ethic,
I think, because the deity isn't really

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what you know, we would think
of as a god in the Bible,

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as a personal god, but it's
more like this thing that you can that

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you can master, right, And
you get this idea and a lot of

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religions, like you know, Masonry, for example, has this idea that

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as you come up the ladder of
the Masonic hierarchy, you're learning the secret

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nosis the secret names of God and
all that to get to the next level.

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And it's so it's so rather than
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personal God, it's more like secret
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higher levels of status. And this
universe is kind of populated in what's sometimes

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called exo theology. I'm talking about
the universe in the in the heavy metal

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movie. Exo theology is the idea
that there's multiple universes, multiple galaxies,

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and that all of the religious theology
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a kind of an expression perhaps of
astro theology or exo theology, that the

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entities of space are the real gods. Right, everybody's heard of ancient aliens

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and George Sucolos and is crazy here
and all that that whole mythology. I'm

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not saying there might not be I
mean there might there could be a demonic

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entities or something like that that we
call aliens. But the idea that the

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universe is populated with all these different
multiverses and worlds and and gods is an

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exo theology. And the world religions
are usually read by through the lens of

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exo theology, and as this this
story progresses more and more was kind of

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reminding me of Mormonism, so that
the ultimate theology of Mormonism, if you

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don't know, is the idea that
there's kind of like space gods and when

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you die, you can become a
god of your own god of a planet

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or unit of our solar system,
and you can father celestial babies. I

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mean, it doesn't explicitly say that
at the end of the movie. I'm

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just saying that when we get to
the last scene with the girl who we

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find out's reincarnated, uh, you
know, we're again, We're back to

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that pagan notion of like you have
this divine destiny. Uh, there's a

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duel forever, a battle between good
and evil. That's a that's a dualistic

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scheme because the girl at the end
has to essentially she becomes the carnation of

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the goddess, who then can fight
against the Lochnar and that's the only thing

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that can destroy him. So ultimately, I'm just saying that exo theology and

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neo nasticism are basically just ancient pagan
presentations that are in and rife throughout this

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Uh, this story progression. I
didn't mean to get ahead of you.

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No, no, no, I
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the multiverse and the universe and all
this alien idea and the way it's been

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pushed. You know, a lot
of people associate that with Star Wars,

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but something like this, which is
around the same time frame, that guy

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that could could bring us right into
the next tale and really my favorite one.

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Right, and here's a great example
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at a courtroom and this isn't the
jury, but they're there, and you've

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got the robots and the robot people, and you've got the aliens, and

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then you've got this military guy.
And the military guy, you know,

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he's got the good chin, and
you obviously look at him and he's you

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know, he's this is stute guy, and he's charged with all these crazy

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things. Yeah. Yeah, the
rapes and the murders, amongst other things

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are just pretty crazy. Now,
this is sat up, like you said,

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in this situation where this individual just
picks up a little marble off the

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ground, and the marble is the
Lochnar, and it just so happens,

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you know, he playeds innocent to
all these cases. It's it's very like

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slapstick cartoon with the lawyer. The
lawyer can't believe it. He's like,

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what are you doing? And this
guy thinks he's got it in the bag,

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right, he's the big military cheese, He's done all these things,

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he's important. The system is rigged. And he gets up there and this

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guy starts praising him, same guy
with a little thing and like remember that,

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like he oh, I was gonna
bring it up. You can say

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worse than a pedo, if that
it's possible. So as this if at

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first, you know, he's rolling
it like a marble and he's he's covering

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for the guy. And basically the
captain is telling his lawyer how this guy's

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going to be his character witness is
going to get him off. You know,

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again, very simplistic story. But
in the middle of it, he

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starts telling the truth and turn it
into something else. And like you said,

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one of the charges is that he
ran a preschool brothel. Basically,

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so like you realize how bad this
guy actually is. And again he looks

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like something out of Superman and Clark
Kent. And then you know, as

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it goes forward, when it would
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him like morph into the guy and
it comes to this cartoon level. But

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notice like as the cartoon level comes
to play, this car right here and

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this guy gets ready to run,
all of a sudden it gets even more

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like cartoony, like he's the hero
as this thing shows up out of nowhere,

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the little eye companion thing that a
chasin sues and you know, here's

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here's where the story for me like
shows you kind of the lochnar hinting at

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like he loves people like this because
at the end of this he the guy's

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name his handover fist and he was
gonna pay him thirty five thousand dollars and

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he chases him down and you think
he got him cornered and it's over for

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the captain. Hell, you've watched
a lot of graphic murders in this bigger

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he's gonna get torn to bits.
I mean, this terrible person, maybe

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the most terrible person that you've seen
throughout the entire movie at this point with

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what he's charged with, and again
he's got this clean cut look. He

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pays him off. He goes from
the big giant to angry. And then

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instead of like keeping his word,
he's not under any threat at this point.

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He murders him and he gets away
Scott free. It looks like it

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looks like he's gonna get away with
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that to me is kind of like
showed like the power of Lochnar was like

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the Lochnar may have been there to
like protect this guy, you know what

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I mean. And this Yeah,
it's like so he has him the hand

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over fifth saying the truth, and
you think that he's going to ultimately you

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know, he is it relative Eze
is he is he gonna get the conviction,

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But no, it ends up like
like Jason said, like no,

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actually Stern gets off because he opens
up that trapdoor. Right. So this

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one is a weird one because I
guess the point here and each of the

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different sequences has kind of different things
that it focuses on that the Locknar's involved

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in in the worlds and in the
universes, which I think we're supposed to

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understand is that corrupted power in our
world is in all the areas of life,

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all the branches of government, religion, et cetera. Right, they're

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all corrupted because the previous the one
with John Candy that was about religion and

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was sacrificing virgins and so forth,
which by the way that the Lochnar can

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be accessed via it's sacrifice. So
I'm not saying it's wrong, it's just

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there's all these different ways to access
its power. This one is the legal

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system, right, and so we
find out that military people, people in

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the system established at a certain level
are protected by a lot more exactly as

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Jason was saying, so you can
get away with it. And then we

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get into this war story about the
World War one a strew World War two

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bomber B seventeen, and so now
we're moving it over into the domain of

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war. And then we haven't a
sequence after that, or is it it's

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either one or two sequences after Yes, the next Seguen was over that is

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about the Pentagon and corruption in terms
of you know, the establishment at that

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level. So it's almost like every
area of life. And then then eventually

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we get into the reincarnation story with
the goddess and all that. But I

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don't mean to get too far ahead, but I didn't really notice a whole

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lot in the next one with the
zombies and the World War two guy except

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that the Lotnar basically explains that he's
the source, or it's the source behind

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the World Wars, like in all
the wars, right, So whether it's

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the World Wars one and two or
any of the wars in the galaxy,

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it is this negative entity force that's
behind it. And then there's all these

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zombies that you know, come out
of the the planes. When when that

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sequence ends, and then it transitions
over into the Pentagon and the sexpots,

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this is where it gets really crazy. And not only that, I think

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there was kind of they're probably trying
to imply with the drug sequences and that

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that the Pentagon was involved in,
you know, drug running. Because this

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is around the time that you've got
mccloyd's book coming out about politics of Heroin.

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You've got Iran Contra is either popping
off or about to pop off.

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So and what McLoyd talks about it
is basically the same stuff that's in Iran

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Contra. So it's beginning to come
out nineteen eighty one too that oh wait,

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the government, Western intelligence agencies have
a key role in drug trafficking.

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And even though they stick in this
idea of it being some kind of like

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sci fi drug. I forget what
it is, but it's basically saying the

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Pentagon is involved in the drug running. And then they throw in the stuff

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the sequence with Gloria Who's going to
have robots sex, and it's John Candy

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that's the voice of that. I
just thought, this is all really weird,

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given the fact that I think we're
right now on the verge, like

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here we are twenty twenty three.
I mean, the sex bots are basically

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now being rolled out. And I
just did a podcast last night where I

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wish I had kept it in here. But a lot of people don't know

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that Anton LaVey was actually studied under
guy named doctor Nixon. And if I

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don't know laves the creator of the
Church of Satan in the late sixties,

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well he studied under this guy named
doctor Nixon, who was a pioneer in

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trying to build old animatronics. And
both Nixon and Lavay were fascinated by Disney's

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interest and focus on creating animatronic you
know, you know George Washington and Araham

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Lincoln when you go to Disney World, they already saw at that time they

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were like, you know what,
this is the future of sex. So

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Anton LaVey was actually saying in the
sixties that all this animatronics would be geared

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towards the creation of sex spots.
And so it's just funny because I was

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going through a list of movies that
had sex bots, like Blade Runner and

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all that this is pre Blade Runner. I forgot that there's this sequence in

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Heavy Metal about the sex spots.
Yeah, the sex spot thing, you

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know, is really interesting because a
lot of this, in my opinion,

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is coming at it from a very
like pro woman perspective, Like everybody talks

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about now how everybody the woman is
the hero, while in this film,

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especially when we get into the next
section, the whole thing is really about

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this young girl that ends up defeating
evil. And you just mentioned the sex

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spot thing. And what's interesting about
the sex spots is obviously in our culture

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and rightfully so, it's more saturated
that men would use these sex spots.

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But you know, even though it's
done in sort of a manner where you

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know, the robots trying to get
with the hot chick, it's the woman

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that ends up actually being with the
sex spot. So there's a lot of

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like things in this film that even
though at the time and even now people

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will say, you know, it's
it's you know, a teenage kid's wet

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dream. It's extremely sexist. But
on the flip side of that, it's

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extremely you know, feminist and pro
we Yeah, exactly, Yeah, I

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mean like big time. So now
let's get into the meat and potatoes.

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Let's get into the big story,
the big crescendo. Why the lochnar and

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when this is at the end where
he kind of like explains himself. And

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by the way, I also agree
with you that the representation of World War

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Two is just to kind of blaine
that, Yeah, I'm involved in all

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these dark wars and it's a good
I guess turning point or or segue into

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the next story where the Pentagon it's
more modernized, right, it goes from

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our basically Earth is involved in both
of those stories, and it seems to

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be our Earth and the future.
And on top of that, what I

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think is interesting about the no tire
Oh good, he's back, Thank god.

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No, I'm sorry, I'm trying
to click out something that I hit

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the wrong button. Sorry, go
ahead, yeah, no problem. So

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aside from that, when I thought
it was really interesting, you know,

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it's a classic zombie story. Which
at the time, you know, kind

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of popular Dawn of the Dead or
George ra Merrow. I guess you could

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argue that. But what I like
about is nobody survives, right, I

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think that's kind of the point through
the whole thing, there is no like

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actual apex character. It kind of
follows the root of one soldier. He

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survives the initial onslaught, then he's
murdered by the zombies. Then the only

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pilot that survives kind of goes through
this thing, tries to survive. The

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Lochnar has attached itself to the plane, and you know, once he actually

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survives being downed on this island from
the plane, you think he's gonna make

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it. No, he doesn't make
it. In fact, they zoom out

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to let you know that he's surrounded
and about to be murdered by a slew

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a zombie. So I think that's
just to show the Lochnar is kind of

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the apex of evil and the driving
force of war. It feeds on the

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mass human sacrifice exactly, exactly exactly. And so now we get to this

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point, and once again there are
a lot of occult overtones. Obviously,

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you know, the stripping down of
the woman her going through the water before

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she comes, you know, upon
this monument, which is kind of a

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representation of the race. And obviously
this is a warrior race, but obviously

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a female warrior race. So she's
not exactly Yes, she's not an anomaly.

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You know, you made a very
really profound point there when you're talking

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about how most people would look at
this whole film and they would be like,

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oh, this is uh, you
know, classic objectification of women by

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you know, constant news sequences of
boots and bots, mainly big, big

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boobs. But the funny part is
that, no, actually, as the

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story progresses, like Jason said,
this is a one percent what I would

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call the dark feminine, the dark
goddess archetype. And I'm doing a podcast

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in a few days and I'm calling
it the dark feminist goddess savior archetype.

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Why am I calling it that because
this is a recurring thing that we're seeing

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in a lot of movies recently,
not just with a feminine hero and I

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would just with a heroin but the
notion of the goddess as the new kind

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of saved your figure, and it
ties into the replacement of what we call

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foul logo centrism or religions that are
male centric or logo centric. And this

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is actually when you get into the
history of the New Age and the esoteric

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00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:04,359
stuff of Wolvatsky and all this kind
of stuff. I was just talking about

406
00:30:04,359 --> 00:30:10,119
it today. I'll give you two
examples. When Marilyn Ferguson wrote her Tavistock

407
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:15,279
produced Acquiring Conspiracy, it's not a
conspiracy text. It's actually a defense of

408
00:30:15,839 --> 00:30:19,680
the alteration of how things in the
corporate world, in the social world,

409
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,599
the legal world, everything needs to
transition over to being feminine. In other

410
00:30:23,599 --> 00:30:30,839
words, Ferguson is arguing via her
Tavistock handlers that the problems in the world

411
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,680
are that men rule and men do
things, and it needs if we just

412
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:38,359
switch over to a feminine, goddess
based civilization, well our problems would go

413
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,559
away. We're gonna have war anymore. Guess what psychonauts like Terrence McKenna and

414
00:30:42,599 --> 00:30:45,119
Food of the Gods, he says
the exact same thing. He says that

415
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,480
the mushroom told me that the religion
of the future will beat the worship of

416
00:30:49,599 --> 00:30:55,000
the goddess. And he says that
because again it's the same plan to say

417
00:30:55,119 --> 00:30:59,079
all the way back to Lavatsky.
In her Secret Doctrine, she's talking about

418
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,559
the rise to God. Alice Bailey
talks about actualization of hierarchy, isis unveiled.

419
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,359
They want to bring a goddess worship
because that will tie into the agenda

420
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,759
twenty thirty of not hurting Mother Earth, that too many people depopulation. It

421
00:31:12,799 --> 00:31:18,880
ties into the emasculation of men,
because you can't have a total control mechanism

422
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,680
if men are empowered, if men
are maculine and can stand up to this

423
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:27,400
garbage, and so ironically, just
the last summary point here, these last

424
00:31:27,519 --> 00:31:34,640
sequences, the last story of Tarna
and epilogue, they're basically about the future

425
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:47,640
will be the destruction of the masculine
green Orb Locknore with the achievement with the

426
00:31:47,799 --> 00:31:51,559
reincarnated goddess figure, because we find
out, as you said, that this

427
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,440
girl that was originally at the beginning
of the film that the Orb comes to

428
00:31:56,039 --> 00:32:00,920
she's told that she's the chosen one, and it turns out she's the reincarnation

429
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:06,480
of this goddess girl, this goddess
figure, this space goddess. She's the

430
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:12,319
only thing that can defeat the war
God, the Death God, the Saturnalian,

431
00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:17,680
male centric, fellow gocentric Lochnar.
Yeah, and again a lot of

432
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:22,920
a lot of I would say,
occult and pagan overtones, just the way

433
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:28,359
that they summon this thing. And
it's so funny because you know, basically

434
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,799
the Lochnar lays out the destruction of
her people, so you're basically talking about

435
00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:38,559
all of Earth, etc. And
you have the Lochnar going into a volcano

436
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:45,200
erupting, and everybody that it encompasses
basically becomes these green demon kind of beings.

437
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:51,039
But then you see the scientific class
if you will, the rulers,

438
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,519
you know, and they they're they're
very uh I would say Roman looking,

439
00:32:54,640 --> 00:33:00,960
they look very Greek. But at
the same time they are using that they

440
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:05,200
admit they're not a warrior race right
now. We're not a warrior race where

441
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,839
everything's in the science. They can't
defend themselves. They have to go to

442
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:14,440
this new warrior race and they have
to summon the warrior through telekinesis, you

443
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,240
know what I mean. And this
doesn't save their lives, but eventually it

444
00:33:17,319 --> 00:33:23,680
does save the planet's life. So
again, all of these occult overtones throughout

445
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:29,880
the entire picture, and at the
end of the day, it's really you

446
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:34,920
could argue also that's self sacrifice because
none of them make it right. You

447
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,240
know, There's there's a couple of
weasels in there that are like, what

448
00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:40,119
are we gonna do? But at
the same time, they all at the

449
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:46,759
end of the day summon and get
sacrificed in order for this being. And

450
00:33:46,839 --> 00:33:54,960
there's even kind of like this sado
masochistic torture scene of her before she kind

451
00:33:55,000 --> 00:34:00,519
of resurrects herself with her with her
ally the bird, her animal. You

452
00:34:00,519 --> 00:34:05,319
can even say it's their spirit animal, which again is united with at the

453
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,199
very end of the picture and to
defeat evil. It's just like a very

454
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:14,039
when you look at it. There's
just so much going on in this movie

455
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:19,039
beyond just the surface narratives. Jay, Well, she's she's the female savior,

456
00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:21,840
like I'm saying, right, so, and and remember this is kind

457
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:27,480
of parallel to Christ's self sacrificial death
because when we think of when she when

458
00:34:27,519 --> 00:34:30,320
she dives in with her sword,
uh, you know, the sword is

459
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,920
typically I mean, the sword has
a lot of symbols, so I'm not

460
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:37,239
trying to reduce it to only having
one significance, but in symbology and literature

461
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:42,320
and art. You know, the
sword often refers to the man. It's

462
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,519
a masculine, phallic symbol, right, So it's it's interesting that she has

463
00:34:46,599 --> 00:34:52,440
the sword, right, and then
she offers herself like she dives into the

464
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:57,519
volcanic So it's a self sacrificial death. And that's precisely where we get the

465
00:34:57,599 --> 00:35:01,639
resurrection motif of her being resurrect that
as we find out the chosen girl at

466
00:35:01,639 --> 00:35:05,880
the beginning, who's the only one
who can ultimately, you know, fight

467
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,639
against the h I keep wanting to
say the star Lack. I know that's

468
00:35:09,639 --> 00:35:15,199
from Star Wars, but the lock
nor nor lock lock nor right, yeah,

469
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:22,039
yeah, So listen, lets let's
take it into modern day because you

470
00:35:22,039 --> 00:35:25,559
know, obviously all this was triggered
in my brain by this world coin thing

471
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:30,599
because it had slipped the great cracks
on me. But when I saw this

472
00:35:30,639 --> 00:35:38,599
thing that literally looks like a steampunk
crystal ball, that's a great prescriptor steam

473
00:35:38,599 --> 00:35:44,199
puckers. The ball that when you
look into it, it takes your biometrics,

474
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:49,000
then harnesses an app to verify that
you're human. You have this non

475
00:35:49,119 --> 00:35:54,199
human device interacting with a non human
network that's going to verify that you're human,

476
00:35:55,039 --> 00:35:59,599
okay, and like the Glee people
were doing it with it. I

477
00:35:59,679 --> 00:36:04,320
was just like so blown away.
And then to have it incorporated with Sam

478
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,800
Altman, who's the new builderberg Bro, the builder Bro, if you will.

479
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:12,960
They just let him in right after
he did his little speech with Eric

480
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,280
Schmidt in front of Congress. It
was literally that week. Now he's the

481
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:22,000
chat chpt guy, he's behind this. They have this in New York City,

482
00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:24,519
it's under the World Trade Center,
they have one in LA It's all

483
00:36:24,519 --> 00:36:30,559
across the country. And to me, this is obviously a lot of things.

484
00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:36,519
Right, it's a CBDC without being
a CBDC. It's a UBI in

485
00:36:36,599 --> 00:36:42,800
a beta test. It is a
cryptocurrency that incorporates the same type of biometric

486
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,559
functions that they use in the UN
World Food Program refugee camps. Right,

487
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,960
and you've seen you know, I
think I've played that in front of you

488
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:55,000
before, where they run a refugee
camp, many refugee camps on the blockchain

489
00:36:55,320 --> 00:37:00,760
and they scan your iris for that. So this is the same exact thing,

490
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:06,679
only people are not only acquiescing to
it, they're participating voluntarily. And

491
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,719
then you have the holders of the
ORB the great holders of the orb jay.

492
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,599
So every time someone scans in,
the holders of the ORB get a

493
00:37:15,639 --> 00:37:20,960
little more crypto. But then the
more that they check in or utilize world

494
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,760
coin. In other words, of
the people that actually scan into get their

495
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:27,360
one world coin a month. You
have to check into the app every month

496
00:37:27,639 --> 00:37:31,000
to get your one ubi world coin. That's why people are supposedly doing it.

497
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,679
But then the more times that they
interact with it or end up trading

498
00:37:35,679 --> 00:37:38,840
it, etc. Than the holders
of the ORB gain more of this cryptocurrency

499
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:43,639
as well. Before we go into
that, I got a question for you,

500
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,400
and it's because, so remember when
Trump went and met with the Saudis

501
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,039
and they all put their hand on
that going orb. What the heck was

502
00:37:51,079 --> 00:37:53,239
that? I never figured out what
that was. I'm pretty sure that that

503
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,920
was a un event. Let's let's
bring it up because I'm pretty sure that

504
00:37:55,960 --> 00:38:01,360
they were they were looking for some
kind of pack. Let's see from creepy

505
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:08,719
globe picture should be the first thing
that when he did that? What's that?

506
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,519
Oh? Yeah, of course he
was, So let's see that vox.

507
00:38:12,599 --> 00:38:16,800
The hilarious Trump ORB photo is nearly
a perfect metaphor for his foreign policy.

508
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,440
So I think that this was right
around the time they cut that big

509
00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:23,719
arms deal. Right remember here here
it is right here, So yeah,

510
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:28,760
it's twenty seventeen. So yeah,
they had just cut that big arms deal

511
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:36,360
and they had their hands on this
globe orbs so you can kind of see

512
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,800
the earth underneath just that. Yeah, it happens to be an ocean.

513
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,920
Yeah, so so yeah, I
mean the funny thing is they actually calling

514
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:49,360
this world coin thing the ORB and
they have a mission statement in which,

515
00:38:49,679 --> 00:38:52,320
you know, this is a world
I D you know, for proof of

516
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:57,639
personals and as a world app and
if we went to I think if we

517
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,880
go right to the first one for
every human you know what I mean,

518
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:05,880
this is what they want, the
world ID transactions, milestones. It's a

519
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:10,199
community building a human economic system.
This is the Internet of bodies. Yeah.

520
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:15,320
Yeah, yeah, it's weird because
I remember, you know, we

521
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,440
all kind of heard, even if
you were skeptical of bitcoin when it first

522
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,599
popped on the scene and you know, twenty twelve or thirteen or whatever,

523
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:28,119
the narrative right away was explicitly libertarian
that the purpose of cryptocurrency, in the

524
00:39:28,159 --> 00:39:36,480
sense of just bitcoin and it's blockchain, was decentralization and anonymity, privacy,

525
00:39:36,639 --> 00:39:39,719
security, and not being you know, basically bullied by the state, having

526
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:45,960
your money, your transactional capability shut
off. So that was the whole purpose

527
00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:49,760
of this invention as far as we
know, right. And then of course,

528
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,320
soon after that we find out a
lot of cryptocurrencies immediately pop up,

529
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:58,639
and most of those begin more and
more to be kind of shifted over into

530
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,280
the model of globalis And one of
the one of the first that I remember

531
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:06,119
hearing about some years ago, maybe
twenty eighteen, was when I think it

532
00:40:06,159 --> 00:40:07,719
was a v chain, when V
chain came out, and I think at

533
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,440
one point it was up there in
the top twenty. It's fallen I was

534
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:15,400
looking, now it's fallen to forty. But V chain's whole premise was we

535
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:22,159
are going to be the blockchain for
tracking and tracing of all objects in terms

536
00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:25,360
of shipping lanes and logistics across the
globe. And I'm like, wait a

537
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:31,719
minute, why we need a cryptocurrency
to track and trace everybody's objects and exchanges

538
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:37,880
across the globe. The whole purpose
of this was to have privacy, security,

539
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:43,880
right sovereignty, and so now crypto
eventually evolves into being essentially just ways

540
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,000
in which World Economic Forum Davos and
these other figures is why I have Klaus

541
00:40:47,159 --> 00:40:52,239
and what twenty nineteen or twenty they
put out their list of the cryptocurrencies that

542
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,280
they thought were most amenable to the
New World Order, and they had things

543
00:40:55,280 --> 00:41:00,239
like Ripple and Salona were on there, among others. And then now it's

544
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:06,079
shifted over into why don't we just
make a straight up total night nightmre Neworal

545
00:41:06,199 --> 00:41:09,239
Order coin, which is basically just
going to harvest all of your information,

546
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:14,199
biometrics and data tie everything to that. I think too some of the people

547
00:41:14,199 --> 00:41:17,320
are right who've been saying that the
reason that the Internet is being flooded with

548
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:22,599
AI, deep fakes, bots,
all this nonsense, and I think it's

549
00:41:22,599 --> 00:41:28,679
been really ramped up, especially since
twenty sixteen seventeen, because what that will

550
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:34,679
allow is the future push for because
of so much fraud, we're gonna have

551
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,239
to have ways for you to have
private keys and private ways to access to

552
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:42,079
Internet so that we know it's you. The narrative is going to shift into

553
00:41:42,199 --> 00:41:45,960
we don't know who we're interacting with
because the AI is so sophisticated it can

554
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:50,760
now fake anything. So you could
be thinking that you're talking to the Burmas.

555
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:52,960
When you're talking to the Burma's bot, which is basically just like Burma's

556
00:41:53,039 --> 00:41:55,920
right, because it's been studying him
and mastering him for many, many years.

557
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:02,159
So we're gonna have this crisis intentional
cry of identity on the Internet.

558
00:42:02,519 --> 00:42:09,320
What's the solution, the globallest solution, which is identifying yourself via biometrics and

559
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:15,039
private keys, which means total loss
of privacy and sovereignty across the Internet.

560
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,960
So world coin is just absolutely one
of these, uh, one of these

561
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,960
attempts. I hope it fails.
Some of these attempts have already failed,

562
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:28,480
things like file coin, things like
Internet Computing Protocol, other cryptocurrencies basically tied

563
00:42:28,519 --> 00:42:31,639
to the New World Order directly.
So I think that that I know I

564
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,599
CP is. I'm not sure I
forget about file coin exactly, but there've

565
00:42:35,639 --> 00:42:38,280
been there's been tons of these that
were basically just New World Order coin that

566
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:43,079
they're trying to sell as like oh
yeah, I mean you might have lose

567
00:42:43,159 --> 00:42:46,920
all of your sovereignty and you might
lose all of your identity. Will control

568
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:52,639
all that, but it'll be really
quick transactions. Well, what's the but

569
00:42:52,679 --> 00:42:57,719
if I can't transact because I'm a
bigot like that. It doesn't do me

570
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,480
any good. It's just it's just
a it's a it's a scam, and

571
00:43:00,519 --> 00:43:02,719
a lot of this ship scams.
The crypto world is rife with scams.

572
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:07,119
I mean, I follow the whole
architecture of FTX and all that really closely.

573
00:43:07,519 --> 00:43:10,280
It was amazing the degree of scammery
that that was. Well you look

574
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:15,960
at that now, and the judge
just said he's going to jail, which

575
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:21,239
is is pretty interesting that that just
happened today. Yeah, that revoked bail.

576
00:43:22,039 --> 00:43:23,679
I don't know exactly what to make
of that, other than the fact

577
00:43:23,679 --> 00:43:30,280
that obviously it was a laundering scam
for the power elite, and a lot

578
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:35,920
of these things are based in non
reality. They are Ponzi scams, and

579
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,280
you know, obviously that's gonna happen. I see, I see, probably

580
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:45,639
right around the time that we're in
the major part of the election cycle in

581
00:43:45,639 --> 00:43:49,159
twenty twenty four, there'll be another
crypto pump and dump, another hype and

582
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,639
drive. And we got the bitcoin
having come coming up in eight months,

583
00:43:52,719 --> 00:44:00,840
nine months and not always drives another
market upturn. I mean, when when

584
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,880
we see that, though, I
think that you're going to see a lot

585
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,199
crumble at the end of the day. I think there's gonna be a lot

586
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,639
of unfair government regulations. By then, we're probably going to be in a

587
00:44:10,639 --> 00:44:15,199
world where Trump's been convicted of something. I know there's a lot of hopiates

588
00:44:15,199 --> 00:44:19,119
out there, but they're just they
don't understand what's going on. Those people.

589
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,039
I mean, I'm jay, you
know, not the shift gears too

590
00:44:22,039 --> 00:44:25,000
hard. But I'm hearing all these
people thinking that oh, all the all

591
00:44:25,039 --> 00:44:29,840
the precedents are now being set,
that once Trump's the president, he's going

592
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:34,679
to really be able to go after
the deep state and prosecute the Clintons and

593
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,280
the Bidens of the world and all
these things. They're not even giving him

594
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:43,119
discovery in the case of the election, just like I told people they wouldn't

595
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,000
and his fake insurrection cases. They're
not really going to give him discovery.

596
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:50,440
They're not going to allow him to
talk about the election and the anomalies or

597
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,920
show any evidence. What were people
thinking. So if we're living in a

598
00:44:52,960 --> 00:45:01,119
world where the guy who was elected
president in twenty twenty after being a wildly

599
00:45:01,159 --> 00:45:07,320
popular president is in jail and he
can't run for the presidents. He can't

600
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,440
even get the primary vote, and
they install a Biden or any other puppet.

601
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:17,280
We might be four years away from
a world coin type thing being the

602
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:22,840
biometric security in our election, and
that'll still be fraudulent because it doesn't matter

603
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:27,000
what kind of biosecurity of where you
voted. You don't get to see the

604
00:45:27,039 --> 00:45:30,199
proprietary software that counts the votes.
It's a scam, it's a bait and

605
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:35,599
switch. Oh, this is gonna
make sure that we have total integrity.

606
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,840
We know exactly who's voting. We're
gonna have every count right there. And

607
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,679
then at the end of the day, you're not going to see how the

608
00:45:40,679 --> 00:45:44,679
sausage is made. They're just gonna
install anybody. You won't be able to

609
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:49,079
question it because, like you said, the AI will have picked up you

610
00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:52,920
know what the truth is, and
they're the authoritative source. We're really moving

611
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,400
in this direction and rapidly, you
know. And that's what's funny to me,

612
00:45:55,480 --> 00:46:00,280
because you know, at everything we
see in something like a heavy metal

613
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:07,199
or a futuristic universe that's almost never
picked up upon, like again the cyberpunk

614
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:13,199
type animatronics, there's a lot of
transhumanist stuff in there. But the narrative

615
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,159
being set by AI. I would
say, really, the only thing I've

616
00:46:16,199 --> 00:46:22,239
seen more recently that picked up on
a lot of that was Westworld. Westworld

617
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:27,840
really showed how that was a driver
you could go back and say, obviously,

618
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,559
orwell and Huxley, you know,
had it partially right with the drugging

619
00:46:32,559 --> 00:46:37,320
of the populace and the two plus
two equals four and the screens that could

620
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,920
see you, et cetera, et
cetera, but not really picked up on

621
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:49,039
massive AI based censorship. And I
guess reality rollout if you will. Are

622
00:46:49,079 --> 00:46:53,960
we gonna be able to combat that? Well, here's the thing, So

623
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:59,280
I just did a deep dive into
mocking Bird. I'm enjoying this book right

624
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,320
now. It's called Mighty Wurlitzer.
It's pretty well known book about the history

625
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:07,360
of Operation Mockingbird by Hugh Wilford.
And the reason that's relevant is that that's

626
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:14,920
the legacy media's version of what they're
doing now post Trump, post Russia Gates,

627
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,679
collusion, Pegate and all that nonsense, and the hacking of the DNC

628
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:22,320
by by Russia. All that's fake. The bots that were supposedly buying the

629
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:27,760
little one inch boomer ads of Jesus
and Trump together on the one inch little

630
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:32,000
Facebook. Supposedly Trump won the election
by flooding all these you know, boomer

631
00:47:32,039 --> 00:47:37,559
ads to the Facebook. Nobody's who's
competent believes that. But those were all

632
00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:44,079
the excuses that were utilized at that
time by the Establishment, which all came

633
00:47:44,079 --> 00:47:46,960
out by the way the Integrity Leagues
in twenty nineteen. And the Establishment at

634
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:52,440
that time was saying that we can't
survive a two term Trump election, and

635
00:47:52,519 --> 00:47:55,880
that was why they had to roll
out the coup, in my view,

636
00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:02,199
in part to distract and destroy the
Trump election and also to bring about the

637
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:07,920
voter frauth ballots. That was on
the basis of coup, and the censorship

638
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:13,039
online is still being done on the
basis of Russia Gate, even though all

639
00:48:13,079 --> 00:48:15,440
that's been debunked and it's all fake. So that was the basis for the

640
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:21,039
Twitter files. The collusion between the
intelligence agencies, the Biden administration, Obama's

641
00:48:21,039 --> 00:48:24,639
Stay Behind Group which is the Knowledge
Initiative or whatever it's called, that where

642
00:48:24,679 --> 00:48:30,599
he was doing centering with the Biden
administration going after Trump in DC even after

643
00:48:30,679 --> 00:48:37,239
Obama supposedly out of office. All
of that's run by British Intelligence CIA and

644
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,159
the Obama stay behind groups, and
that's who's really running the Biden administration.

645
00:48:40,519 --> 00:48:45,800
So they were saying that they were
worried about a second Trump administration. I

646
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,880
don't in my view, not even
so much because they're that concerned about Trump

647
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:52,840
himself, but just because he's such
a bull in the China shop that he

648
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:59,960
just says whatever and it causes this
floodgate of people questioning the news media.

649
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,760
You know, the one thing that
Trump did accomplish was to call out fake

650
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:07,880
news for four years straight, and
that really damaged the credibility of mainstream media,

651
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,840
which is pretty much still in the
tanks. So I think that even

652
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,800
though Trump made a lot of mistakes, that a lot of things really wrong,

653
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,280
the establishment was enough. They were
concerned enough about the possibility of his

654
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:22,760
sort of brazenness that he might cause
more problems. And so the Integrity Initiative

655
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:27,360
leaks from the Institute of Strategic Studies
out of the UK, the British Intelligence

656
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,480
Group, they were themselves saying that
we've got to do whatever is necessary to

657
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,639
stop Trump. So if that applied
to the last election, you absolutely can

658
00:49:34,679 --> 00:49:37,000
bet, as you're saying, Burmis
is going to apply to the next election,

659
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,360
which means they'll do potentially anything to
make sure that Trump isn't in there

660
00:49:40,519 --> 00:49:44,960
again just because of what he represents
and just because of what he might say,

661
00:49:45,039 --> 00:49:47,760
because he's a bull in the China
shop. So they that would require

662
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:52,920
then, like you said, crazy
events perhaps I mean false flag events,

663
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:58,280
meaning then that something crazy happens.
Oh, all the MAGA terrorists and actually

664
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,639
the Biden administration as it has been
already prepping for the crazy MAGA people,

665
00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:07,599
and then they're all white supremacist terrorists. They put out that document saying that

666
00:50:07,679 --> 00:50:12,039
all Trump supporters potentially terrorists. So
they're really priming the pump, as you

667
00:50:12,079 --> 00:50:16,760
know, for some kind of loose
change, fabled enemies style event to make

668
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:21,920
everybody be a bad guy Timothy mcvay's
style. Okay, see that kind of

669
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,960
stuff. That's very likely. However, as you said, how can we

670
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,679
fight against all this stuff? Well, the good news is that a lot

671
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,199
of people, I mean, we're
kind of at a tipping point. A

672
00:50:31,199 --> 00:50:37,039
lot of people are like, they're
not gonna immediately believe this stuff. Immediately.

673
00:50:37,039 --> 00:50:38,679
People are gonna start picking at apart. And so I don't know that

674
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:45,039
those kinds of narratives that worked in
you know, okay see or two thousand

675
00:50:45,039 --> 00:50:46,599
and one. I don't know they're
gonna work that well. I think a

676
00:50:46,639 --> 00:50:51,639
lot of people are going to be
skeptical. Trump is wildly popular, and

677
00:50:51,679 --> 00:50:58,199
he represents that round swell reaction against
the mainstream, even if it's got a

678
00:50:58,199 --> 00:51:00,159
lot of problems, even if it's
still kind of you know, there's a

679
00:51:00,199 --> 00:51:04,639
lot of boomer holdover stuff that's gonna
goofy. But I think the hope is

680
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,440
that the numbers and the tide is
seeming to turn. And I wouldn't place

681
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,360
all my hope and Trump, but
I'm just saying that if we can keep

682
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,320
doing what we've been doing for the
next three or four years, I think

683
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:20,480
that tipping point of people that are
actually red building awake is going to explode

684
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:25,960
exponentially. Well. To me,
I just think right from the very beginning

685
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,199
of twenty twenty, I said,
if he tries to run again in twenty

686
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:30,679
twenty four, they're gonna put him
in jail. I truly, you know,

687
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,920
I've never been a walls are closing
in guy. I'm not that guy.

688
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:39,599
I'm more looking at this as they're
bombarding him with different charges and seeing

689
00:51:39,639 --> 00:51:44,119
what we'll stick. They're trying to
rig the system in every single way.

690
00:51:44,119 --> 00:51:45,920
And like you said, it's not
that he was so much different, but

691
00:51:46,039 --> 00:51:52,880
the fact that he really took away
any real credibility from the system, constantly

692
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,639
pointing out it was lying. And
you know, some of his policies were

693
00:51:55,639 --> 00:51:59,400
good. They're much better than where
we're at today. I'm not going to

694
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,840
begrudge the man that you know,
obviously of RFK Jr. On the left

695
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:07,440
waking a lot of people up as
well. They don't even want debates.

696
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:13,639
I guess my biggest fear is that, you know, like you said,

697
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,519
maybe a nine to eleven is not
enough, Maybe an okayc type thing isn't

698
00:52:16,599 --> 00:52:22,079
enough. But we're almost in World
War three right now. It's not even

699
00:52:22,119 --> 00:52:25,760
really a proxy war at this point. We've seen some unprecedented things via the

700
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:32,719
Ukraine Russia conflict, and if there
were a nuclear device or event to go

701
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:40,199
off anywhere in the world, that
could be the type of event that could

702
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:45,880
cause an election to be subverted,
much in the same way it was during

703
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:51,039
COVID nineteen eighty four for numerous reasons. So you know, I'm keeping that

704
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:55,559
and to implement some kind of a
digital currency. If in fact, yeah,

705
00:52:55,679 --> 00:53:00,400
if in fact, at the same
time, it would cause economic instability.

706
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:05,119
And finally the house of cards falls
in and enough people have the magic

707
00:53:05,159 --> 00:53:07,280
device that they say, we're just
going digital and screw it. You know.

708
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,719
I hope there are holdouts. I
hope there are people fighting back,

709
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:15,400
mister Dyer. This was a really
fun episode. No one else is going

710
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:20,039
to talk to me about heavy metal
for an hour. Tell people where they

711
00:53:20,079 --> 00:53:23,320
can find your stuff, obviously,
Jay's analysis dot com is the spot.

712
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:27,920
But you're you're moving, shaking.
You just at the fourth hour of Jones

713
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,679
today, you're on the rock fin
tell us about it. Yeah, you

714
00:53:31,679 --> 00:53:36,280
can find all my stuff there at
at one central location my website. You

715
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:40,800
can also find everything I do on
Rocking as well as another great outlet some

716
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:45,800
unique content over on Rocking as well. You can find me on YouTube under

717
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,320
Jaydy or you can find me on
Twitter. Getting a lot of traction out

718
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,039
of Twitter nowadays too, so you
can find me on Instagram as well,

719
00:53:52,079 --> 00:53:54,960
and now on TikTok. I'm a
huge fan of TikTok, but you can

720
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:59,039
find me there as a backup.
But yeah, I think you know you

721
00:53:59,079 --> 00:54:00,880
and I've had some great conversation in
the past on films as well. We

722
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:05,280
did Holy Mountain. I was just
looking at that show the other night that

723
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,199
you and I did on Holy Mountain
and remembering that was actually a really good

724
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,760
discussion. We had a lot of
predictive stuff and Holy Mountain, the sex

725
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:15,400
spots, coffin apartments, austerity,
mind control, all that stuff is in

726
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:20,400
Holy Mountain as well. And so
yeah, you and I should do more

727
00:54:20,519 --> 00:54:22,639
film reviews because I think you know, you get it. You like,

728
00:54:22,679 --> 00:54:27,880
you're able to tie to predict the
programming in the films and the narratives the

729
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,199
old stories into today's news news headlines
very well, and not many people can

730
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,480
do that. So it's really cool
to do these podcasts with you. Well,

731
00:54:34,519 --> 00:54:36,280
thank you, bro. Like you
know, I'm a big fan of

732
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,760
Rob Eager and Cold and learning.
He does a lot of really great work.

733
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:40,960
You know, I'm a big fan
of the meaning of the Monolith.

734
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,559
But I've always liked films, and
you know, there's always been some kind

735
00:54:45,599 --> 00:54:49,960
of different level there. And you
know what the thing about movies to me

736
00:54:50,079 --> 00:54:52,280
is Jay is don't get me wrong. You know, there's a lot of

737
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,960
popcorn bullshit out there, sometimes it's
mixed with some good stuff, you know.

738
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,960
I just watched Gardens the Galaxy three. I don't know if you've seen

739
00:55:00,119 --> 00:55:05,719
it yet, but I mean,
it's all about directed evolution, and it's

740
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:10,239
really the story of Rocket Raccoon and
how he came into being. And it's

741
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:16,239
also got a very big motif on
world creation and the high evolutionary is the

742
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:21,280
main bad guy. I did see
Sound of Freedom, and I know there's

743
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,440
a lot of controversy over that,
but the film itself as a film,

744
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,400
I thought it was great. I
thought it was great too, saw that

745
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,480
as well. I mean that I
saw that in the theater. I just

746
00:55:28,519 --> 00:55:31,280
recently watched Gardens the Galaxy. There's
a lot of popcorn, bubble gum bullshit

747
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,639
that movie. Sure, you know, a lot of cheap laughs, blah

748
00:55:34,639 --> 00:55:37,800
blah blah, but at the same
time, still slips some stuff in there.

749
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,559
And you know, I think that
those things are important. A lot

750
00:55:40,599 --> 00:55:45,599
of the Marvel movies have a lot
of them talked about. Yeah, New

751
00:55:45,599 --> 00:55:47,079
World, we should do a thing
on that. Like the good things that

752
00:55:47,159 --> 00:55:52,840
Marvel has slipped into their movies over
the last fifteen twenty years. Captain America

753
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,639
Winter Soldier if you remember, that
was about the AI figuring out who the

754
00:55:55,719 --> 00:56:00,760
future potential patriots are and taking them
out ahead of time. Yeah. I

755
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,719
mean again, they've done some pretty
interesting stuff. But you know, with

756
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,480
movies in particular, I can watch
a movie and maybe not even like it

757
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,559
right, and but it just eats
at me. You know, a lot

758
00:56:10,599 --> 00:56:14,519
of the Kubrick stuff is that way. The first time around, I watched

759
00:56:14,559 --> 00:56:16,480
something, I'm just like, man, this is this makes me feel uneasy?

760
00:56:16,559 --> 00:56:20,440
Why is that? And then I
watched it a second time and you

761
00:56:20,519 --> 00:56:22,079
kind of go into it and it's
like, Okay, now I get it

762
00:56:22,119 --> 00:56:27,559
because there are all these overtones,
undertones, hitting meanings, things that you're

763
00:56:27,599 --> 00:56:30,360
missing in the background, and it's
a powerful medium, just like any other

764
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:36,000
medium. That's why I gravitated towards
it. With documentary films. We do

765
00:56:36,119 --> 00:56:37,840
need to do more of these,
because I do love them. Mister Dyer,

766
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,639
I am going to the Red Pill
XBO tomorrow. I'm sure that you're

767
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:44,840
up for an American Liberty Award?
Are you going to Texas tomorrow? I

768
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:49,320
wish we could. I would have
already committed to a being on a panel

769
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,960
at a comic book convention this weekend, so I have to go do that.

770
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,199
Actually, with the guy I was
telling you about, who's my buddy,

771
00:56:53,199 --> 00:56:55,599
who's the comic book artist? I
thought I had it maybe his books

772
00:56:55,599 --> 00:57:00,440
around here, but he invited me
to do a code convention with him.

773
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,360
So I'm gonna be in a panel
tomorrow in Kentucky. I don't know when

774
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,400
this is coming out, but if
you're in the Tennessee, Kentucky area,

775
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:09,239
you can find that convention on my
website on my links. But yeah,

776
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:13,920
otherwise it would be there. I
am up for I think Best Analysis Program,

777
00:57:14,039 --> 00:57:16,360
so they have a whole bunch of
categories, So are you on that.

778
00:57:16,679 --> 00:57:21,440
I did get nominated for award,
But again, I the Red Pill

779
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,480
expos right here in Iowa. It's
about two hours away, two and a

780
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:28,039
half hours away over in Yeah,
and you know what, let's be honest,

781
00:57:28,039 --> 00:57:30,599
man, this is this is probably
gonna be the last chance I get

782
00:57:30,639 --> 00:57:32,800
to see g Edward Griffin in person. And it was really kind of a

783
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:37,920
no brainer for me, especially because
it's close and I've always really loved what

784
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,320
he does. So I'm gonna try
to get some interviews there. Keep grinding

785
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,840
working, I know you're grinding working, like you said you're on a thing.

786
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:45,559
Keep it up, brother. Thank
you so much, absolutely, thank

787
00:57:45,599 --> 00:57:46,159
you did a