WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.520 --> 00:00:07.080 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez. Sound Fox 2 00:00:07.120 --> 00:00:13.960 Sports fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services and Sure Your Most Prized Possessions kat 3 00:00:14.240 --> 00:00:19.120 c R two, SAG and iHeart Radio Station Yet. Good afternoon, everybody. 4 00:00:19.120 --> 00:00:22.839 Welcome to Iron the Ball here Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, 5 00:00:22.960 --> 00:00:27.440 He's Jay Gonzalez. Got our guy Kevin in today. Welcome to Monday. 6 00:00:27.640 --> 00:00:30.160 A lot of stuff going on, a lot of things happen over the 7 00:00:30.160 --> 00:00:34.960 weekend. I'm trying to save some stuff for breaking new news, breaking news. 8 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:37.240 Maybe we won't. I don't know. Good luck with that, but 9 00:00:37.320 --> 00:00:41.479 a lot of things going on. In fact, the breaking breaking news is 10 00:00:41.679 --> 00:00:45.679 you're gonna have to become more hip, oh yeah, you know, and 11 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:49.240 not breaking hit. Yeah you know. Asked me to name one Snoop Dog 12 00:00:49.320 --> 00:00:52.799 song, Well, and I don't have one, and juices that's one. 13 00:00:52.920 --> 00:00:55.280 That's the one. Okay, that's okay, I got one that's like one 14 00:00:55.320 --> 00:00:58.759 of the original ones. I mean, yeah, I you know, he 15 00:00:58.799 --> 00:01:02.159 could he could come on. You can put something on right now and I 16 00:01:02.359 --> 00:01:04.280 will. Oh no, you wouldn't know. You you dropping like, yeah, 17 00:01:04.400 --> 00:01:10.079 you know, no, I don't we get Well, we're gonna have 18 00:01:10.159 --> 00:01:12.280 kim A Dare to give you some heads up. I want this is my 19 00:01:12.359 --> 00:01:19.719 team to Turner what Turner was to Jason. Yeah, I mean I obviously 20 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:22.560 know who he is. I know, you know, I know, I 21 00:01:22.560 --> 00:01:25.200 mean, you know if you walked in the door and say what up? 22 00:01:25.239 --> 00:01:30.400 Snoop? But but I don't know his stuff. Yeah, game on commercials 23 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:33.359 all the time. We'll talk about that. Yeah, with the Corona and 24 00:01:33.480 --> 00:01:38.640 said, we'll talk about that with the second hour obviously the new sponsor for 25 00:01:38.680 --> 00:01:42.799 the Arizona Ball with kim A Dare at the four seventeen uh time, that'd 26 00:01:42.840 --> 00:01:46.200 be great. We haven't had her on and since it's the since the BO 27 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:48.799 game, probably right. Yeah, So and then there and then at the 28 00:01:48.799 --> 00:01:52.439 beginning there. I woke up this morning and thinking, I thought about textis 29 00:01:52.519 --> 00:01:53.480 late last night and he said, no, I better give him some time 30 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:57.200 arrest Thatt Lern And he said, yeah, when when you want me to 31 00:01:57.200 --> 00:02:00.359 come on? Because we had wanted him after the turn and we kind of 32 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:02.840 like, you know, let the things marinate and then he's not that busy 33 00:02:02.920 --> 00:02:06.120 right now. I don't think. I don't know. I'd love to get 34 00:02:06.159 --> 00:02:08.520 into the ins and outs of you know, his job of you know, 35 00:02:09.080 --> 00:02:15.639 uh, he's in charge of he's the national coordinator for men's basketball officiating for 36 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:20.840 the NC Double A. So whatever that entails. I'm not I don't know 37 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:23.120 that he's the guy that actually schedules, but you know, I think but 38 00:02:23.159 --> 00:02:25.879 he's more or less kind of puts it together. Yeah, he's got to, 39 00:02:25.919 --> 00:02:29.599 you know, make sure guys are getting evaluated and doing their jobs and 40 00:02:29.639 --> 00:02:31.280 whatnot. And we'll find out more about that, but I'm interested to know. 41 00:02:31.319 --> 00:02:38.240 Okay, so you had this stable of PAC twelve officials. What happens 42 00:02:38.240 --> 00:02:42.759 to them? We know that they all work a lot of different conferences, 43 00:02:42.800 --> 00:02:45.840 but now you had these officials who are working, you know, the primary 44 00:02:45.840 --> 00:02:49.280 officials for Packed twelve, guys that we know, right, Michael Irvin and 45 00:02:49.280 --> 00:02:53.479 and uh and and and some of those guys, Kevin Brill and all those 46 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:59.599 guys who some of us know by name. How do they get dispersed or 47 00:02:59.639 --> 00:03:05.000 do they get dispersed around the other leagues based on where these their teams have 48 00:03:05.080 --> 00:03:07.960 gone, right? And what will happen now with the changing the right conferences? 49 00:03:08.159 --> 00:03:12.120 Right, because there's not fewer teams to officiate. There's still going to 50 00:03:12.199 --> 00:03:15.680 be this probably the same number of games, but they're just it's it's now 51 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:20.159 broken down into four conferences instead of five. You know, who becomes a 52 00:03:20.159 --> 00:03:23.319 Big ten official, who becomes a Big twelve official, who becomes an ACC 53 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:29.199 official, and you know all these guys that you know, conceivably or theoretically 54 00:03:29.680 --> 00:03:35.080 the guys who refereed the PAC twelve probably lived out this way. So what's 55 00:03:35.199 --> 00:03:38.080 how does that change travel plans for them and stuff like that. So it'd 56 00:03:38.120 --> 00:03:42.680 be interesting to see how Chris is putting all that together. M okay, 57 00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:45.759 but uh, Chris the local guy for those of you who don't know, 58 00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:49.840 went to high school here anythink Rincon. You know, I've known him for 59 00:03:49.879 --> 00:03:54.599 one hundred years playing you know, city league or reg you know, softball 60 00:03:54.680 --> 00:03:58.919 leagues with him or against him. I should say, teams that you know, 61 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:01.400 leagues that he was in, known him for a real long time. 62 00:04:01.400 --> 00:04:04.680 He's been he was a Pack twelve for the longest time. And uh, 63 00:04:04.840 --> 00:04:09.120 now you know, he became the national coordinator of officials, so sort of 64 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:13.439 a year round job, not not a you know, just doing basketball during 65 00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:15.959 basketball season. So we'll see what he's up to. Okay, no, 66 00:04:16.079 --> 00:04:19.800 that'll be cool. Uh, and talk about other things as well. Uh, 67 00:04:20.120 --> 00:04:23.160 everybody, have a good weekend. You were you were out for a 68 00:04:23.199 --> 00:04:28.800 while. I'm happy to be breathing outside air. Steve, who knows I'm 69 00:04:28.800 --> 00:04:30.399 good. I'm good. Kevin, you don't have to, you know, 70 00:04:30.439 --> 00:04:33.360 don't kiss me on the lift, but you know you planning to do. 71 00:04:33.759 --> 00:04:40.279 That was my one goal today. But I was. I was mentioning to 72 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:45.920 Steve that I I didn't breathe outside air from Tuesday night when I got sick 73 00:04:46.480 --> 00:04:51.160 until Saturday morning when I got out to go golfing, And and I didn't 74 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:55.519 have a solid meal in that time as well, until lunchtime on Saturday. 75 00:04:55.600 --> 00:04:58.160 What was the first solid meal you had when you could have a solid meal? 76 00:04:58.279 --> 00:05:03.120 Oh, it was off the charge, probably arguably the best post golf 77 00:05:03.160 --> 00:05:08.879 tournament lunch ever, because you know, you go to go. It was 78 00:05:08.879 --> 00:05:14.680 the it was the Autistic Society Golf turn Artistic organization golf tournament, charity golf 79 00:05:14.720 --> 00:05:16.040 turned down in two BAC. Normally, you know, you get you go 80 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:18.800 to the lunch, you get a burger and dog. You know it's maybe 81 00:05:18.839 --> 00:05:25.879 some potato salad and you know a cookie, right, It was legit ribs, 82 00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:33.639 barbecue, chicken, coleslaw, beans, and then these great peanut butter 83 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:40.000 cookies you and it's unbelievable. He didn't get sick, and I was a 84 00:05:40.040 --> 00:05:43.240 little well. I literally I got in line. I thought, got shit, 85 00:05:43.360 --> 00:05:46.040 should I go yard or should I go easy? And then see how 86 00:05:46.040 --> 00:05:50.560 it goes. I went yard. I piled my plate like I do at 87 00:05:50.560 --> 00:05:54.839 a Mexican wedding. I mean, I just I I had a mound of 88 00:05:54.879 --> 00:05:57.839 food on my on my plate and I ate every bit of it. And 89 00:05:57.879 --> 00:06:01.560 it was so good and I felt good. And I got home and threw 90 00:06:01.560 --> 00:06:05.800 myself on the couch and it was great sound. It was good. And 91 00:06:05.839 --> 00:06:12.360 so my game was back. My game was back. Jay has returned off 92 00:06:12.360 --> 00:06:15.319 the IR. Yeah. They went to the doctor today, had my doctor 93 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:17.319 appointment. They said, I'm doing great. I'm headed in the right direction 94 00:06:17.399 --> 00:06:20.160 on all my stuff. He lost all that weight in the last week. 95 00:06:21.240 --> 00:06:25.680 She said, she says, keep doing what you're doing. And I'm saying, 96 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:29.199 you have no idea what you just what. You just gave me a 97 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:33.680 license to do. And I just did it. I did I went yard 98 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:36.360 on Saturday. That was so good. Thanks to all those guys. Great, 99 00:06:36.519 --> 00:06:41.920 a great event. They had three nines and every foursome was sold. 100 00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:46.040 They went over two hundred golfers on Saturday down to two bat They made it's 101 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:50.279 a weekend event on beautiful day. It was a little breeze. It was 102 00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:55.600 breezy enough to make it nice and cool. Probably last couple of holes the 103 00:06:55.600 --> 00:06:59.040 breeze kind of stopped and it warmed up, But for most of the day 104 00:06:59.160 --> 00:07:02.160 it was It was a really really nice day. A lot of great sponsors 105 00:07:02.199 --> 00:07:04.920 down there. It was a it was a great tournament. And UH. 106 00:07:05.120 --> 00:07:09.920 I was invited by my friends Larry Lucero and Suan Welch. They had me 107 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:13.360 join their group and I had a great time. Did you did you screwed 108 00:07:13.480 --> 00:07:15.560 up or did you improve? The No? We you know we we we 109 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:17.959 you know what. We went out there just to play because we knew we 110 00:07:17.959 --> 00:07:21.439 weren't gonna win. UH, and we had fun. Hit some good shots, 111 00:07:21.480 --> 00:07:25.240 hit some bad shots, We made some putts. Got another one coming 112 00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:29.720 up this weekend. National Football Foundation as their tournament this weekend. That one's 113 00:07:29.759 --> 00:07:32.399 coming up. Maybe we get uh try and get Tim Kishen. Well, 114 00:07:32.439 --> 00:07:38.160 I'm out there. I think theyer hassee is the tournament director. But one 115 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:40.600 of those guys too. I think it's I mean, you know, I 116 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:42.759 don't know if they're still trying to self force it. I think it's full. 117 00:07:42.839 --> 00:07:45.079 But you know, they're they're doing a lot of good stuff with that 118 00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:47.439 tournament as well. They do good trump. Okay, a lot of things 119 00:07:47.480 --> 00:07:56.439 going on. The tennis did really well, Baseball fantastically well, everyone fantastically 120 00:07:56.480 --> 00:08:01.399 well. Golf, women's women's golf is playing today. They're playing today. 121 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:05.839 Yeah, women's tennis got beat in their first round match. Oh okay, 122 00:08:05.680 --> 00:08:09.319 they got They got skunk by Oklahoma for zip, but that was expected. 123 00:08:09.319 --> 00:08:13.160 Oklahoma's ranked Arizona was. I mean, well, we talked to Ryan Stotland. 124 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:16.519 I mean, they wanted to get in, they wanted to win, 125 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:18.079 but they hadn't been in in ten years. They think they were just you 126 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:22.639 know, they were happy to be there and uh and uh you know, 127 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:24.759 but they got they got beat by a good team. So they went up 128 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:28.759 to uh I think they were at Oklahoma and they and they lost. So 129 00:08:28.920 --> 00:08:33.559 yeah, they were out. Okay, we'll talk more of baseball basketball later. 130 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:39.600 I thought some there's some obviously comings and goings on at you they as 131 00:08:39.679 --> 00:08:43.679 they get prepared to kind of slashing. Got got in a little chewy on 132 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:48.799 on Facebook today because there's a group of the Wildcat Arizona Wildcats basketball group on 133 00:08:48.799 --> 00:08:54.759 Facebook and they posted something about this Purdue game that's not get you know, 134 00:08:54.759 --> 00:08:58.000 the sup that they're not gonna play and kind of put wow, you know, 135 00:08:58.399 --> 00:09:00.759 I'd like to know the backstory on this, And then there was a 136 00:09:00.799 --> 00:09:03.159 bunch of people, Oh, they don't want to play us, and it's 137 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:05.919 crap that we went and played at their place and they they won't come and 138 00:09:05.919 --> 00:09:09.840 play at our place. Like, folks, Relax, it's a scheduling issue. 139 00:09:09.879 --> 00:09:13.080 It has nothing to It has nothing to do with somebody not wanting to 140 00:09:13.120 --> 00:09:18.120 play somebody. Arizona needs X number of home games. If they play this 141 00:09:18.200 --> 00:09:20.080 game, they don't get X number of home games, so they're not playing 142 00:09:20.120 --> 00:09:24.919 it. What when one guy goes on and says says, oh, they 143 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:26.559 they lost their one good player, so now they don't want to play us. 144 00:09:26.600 --> 00:09:30.440 I'm like they were in the National championship game. I think they had 145 00:09:30.440 --> 00:09:33.960 more than one good player. Is Arizona basketball people? Yeah? Basketball? 146 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:37.919 See now you understand my frustration. You're on Twitter, I'm on Facebook, 147 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:43.200 and you know it's it's like I have nothing better to do but go on 148 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:46.080 these things and run. You know. Yeah, I saw it and I 149 00:09:46.120 --> 00:09:48.639 thought, you know, I don't want to engage it. But these people 150 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:52.039 are you know, they're they're like going off and you know, ripping on 151 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:56.039 Purdue for not winding to play. Guys, it was Arizona who said they 152 00:09:56.240 --> 00:09:58.600 can't play the game Purdue wants to play, you know, and it's a 153 00:09:58.639 --> 00:10:01.840 schedule anything. It's not that Arizona doesn't want to play. It can't play. 154 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:05.679 Oh then some guy says, well, maybe we can schedule u CLM 155 00:10:05.720 --> 00:10:09.279 Like, no, they can't play. They can't play another road game. 156 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:13.120 I'll see it right now. In fact, a good friend of mine who's 157 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:16.080 is the one who posted it. She's like a super fan and kind of 158 00:10:16.159 --> 00:10:20.480 like I call her Paulianna because you know, the world is ending and she'd 159 00:10:20.519 --> 00:10:24.320 still find some great things about it. She might even be listening now because 160 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:28.399 she knows how I give her grief publicly, I mean privately, because it's 161 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:31.559 always you know, it's always sunny outside. It could be downpouring in monsoon, 162 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:35.000 but it's suddy outside, and this team know, you're exactly right, 163 00:10:35.080 --> 00:10:37.159 it's not. It's not anybody else's problem, it's Arizona's problem. Yeah. 164 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:41.960 Well, Andy Katz put something it looks like something on social media saying that, 165 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:43.840 you know, there was that the you know, it was one of 166 00:10:43.879 --> 00:10:46.559 the great non conference games last year. They both would like to schedule return 167 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:50.799 game, but it won't happen. The Wildcats have scheduling issues then, you 168 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:52.960 know, and that's fine. I wonder what the rest of the story is. 169 00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:54.480 But then all these people go on there and say, oh, they 170 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:58.320 don't want to play. I'm like, it's not bad. They do want 171 00:10:58.360 --> 00:11:00.440 to play us, and Arizone wants to play. Then they just can't. 172 00:11:00.600 --> 00:11:07.639 Does it make my uh my analysis of Arizona fans any clear to you? 173 00:11:09.960 --> 00:11:13.519 I yeah, you know, here's the thing. I engaged it under the 174 00:11:13.559 --> 00:11:18.480 I I on the ball to on Facebook, so they think it's you. 175 00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:20.600 No. No, one time, one time you did respond to somebody a 176 00:11:20.600 --> 00:11:24.120 friend of ours, and he came back to me later in privates. Why 177 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:28.240 would you say this to me? Study I don't control the social media side. 178 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:33.919 It's all Jay, And normally I changed that and I just I hit 179 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:37.320 I hit it, and they was there. And then I thought I thought 180 00:11:37.399 --> 00:11:41.279 that I had taken off and put him back under under my mind, and 181 00:11:41.320 --> 00:11:43.919 I thought, no, just yeah, I'll have to see what you want. 182 00:11:43.159 --> 00:11:46.600 I'll have to see if I can approve this. But if you're if 183 00:11:46.600 --> 00:11:50.440 you're saying exactly, I agree. I mean, it's not it's not an 184 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:54.240 their part of it's Arizona's problem. Yeah, I mean it'd be a great 185 00:11:54.279 --> 00:11:56.960 game to have, you know, I mean it would be a game, 186 00:11:56.440 --> 00:12:00.120 certainly, it would be a game that, depending on when it is that, 187 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:03.759 I would consider going to Vegas to see if they could play it. 188 00:12:03.799 --> 00:12:07.000 But they can't, so I said, relax, everybody. Yeah that was 189 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:09.919 me, blah blah blah. No, that's fine. Yeah, And to 190 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:13.039 think about it is you're the voice of reason, which is a shock and 191 00:12:13.120 --> 00:12:16.519 nobody, nobody's liked or said anything about it. And it's ended there. 192 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:20.440 Yeah, then ended the conversation. And that was the goal. It's like, 193 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:24.879 okay, guys, everybody just look at this and now let's stop the 194 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:28.799 conversation because it's not about anything other than Arizona can't play that game. I 195 00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:33.039 couldn't help myself. Steve couldn't help I had an extra ten minutes. I 196 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:37.000 sit there, I meet I meet my lunch. I got some I got 197 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:41.240 some chicken soup and the carnessid of the burrito and I'm read I'm flipping through 198 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:45.559 social media and I saw it and the keyboard is right there in front of 199 00:12:45.559 --> 00:12:48.240 me, and I went after it. It was whispering to it was say 200 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:52.639 something, say something for all who are thinking that you could do something bad 201 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:56.080 in your life, and don't worry. The world is ending. Jay is 202 00:12:56.120 --> 00:13:00.600 the voice of reason here, so you know the world's ending. That's that's 203 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:03.919 a scary thoughts. It's a really scary But to the voice of reason, 204 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:11.360 possible anything can happen. You just never ever know. You never know. 205 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:16.000 Anyways, that's fine, So I got to let you know because Okay, 206 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:20.120 somebody gives you crap. That was me. That's fine. It was me 207 00:13:22.399 --> 00:13:24.799 hit my head and forgot what I was doing. But that's not that's not 208 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:30.639 out of the realm of possibility either. Yeah my head, that's true. 209 00:13:30.720 --> 00:13:33.960 That could I could have fallen. Okay, no, cool, So you 210 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:35.240 know a little bit, we're about to go to break and then we're gonna 211 00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:39.879 go with Chris Rasta rast Tadder. Yeah, he'll he'll be Injurie. Well, 212 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:43.559 it's always a fun conversation because when you talk to somebody like Chris, 213 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:46.759 we don't the media doesn't get to talk to those guys enough to kind of 214 00:13:46.799 --> 00:13:50.720 get background on some of the things that go on, you knowe myths and 215 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:54.559 and things that we think we know that we don't know, and that that 216 00:13:54.679 --> 00:13:58.480 kind of stuff. It's it's a professional We wish we didn't know anything about 217 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:03.240 them, right, because then that means they're doing their job and they're just 218 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:07.080 doing their job and just like an umpire or or you know, one hundred 219 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:09.879 years ago, I got to do a story on there. Remember Bob Garibaldi, 220 00:14:09.320 --> 00:14:13.200 okay there, I got to interview him for a story when he was 221 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:15.759 here in town forever. He had the record with you at some points, 222 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:18.279 No, no, we know, but he told me, he says, 223 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:20.840 don't ask me this, this, this, this, this, because I 224 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:22.000 can't. I can't answer, he said, I'm not. It's not that 225 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:24.840 I'm not going to answer, he says, I can't. I've been told 226 00:14:24.879 --> 00:14:26.279 him not to answer. And that was fine, and it was it was 227 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:28.960 a Q and a that I that I did with him. And you know, 228 00:14:28.039 --> 00:14:31.679 but one of the things was the myth of the makeup call he said, 229 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:33.879 he said, there's no such thing, you know at that time. 230 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:37.799 So it was stuff like that that I made it interesting. It's no such 231 00:14:37.840 --> 00:14:39.759 thing. It's kind of like a players playing harder for another player than it 232 00:14:39.799 --> 00:14:45.200 was. But that that was the one question that I did want to ask, 233 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:46.759 and he said, he said, Look, he said, and maybe 234 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:48.879 he maybe it is, maybe there is, but he just said, he 235 00:14:48.879 --> 00:14:52.039 said, there's no such thing as to make a call. You make the 236 00:14:52.080 --> 00:14:54.159 calls that you see. He said, Now it just may happen that we 237 00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:58.080 make a call and the next one goes the other way, but there's no 238 00:14:58.120 --> 00:15:00.679 such thing. And that that. It was those of things, and it 239 00:15:00.720 --> 00:15:03.559 was a fun conversation. I had fun doing that. Okay, all right, 240 00:15:03.799 --> 00:15:07.159 let's take our break with back. Chris Rastadter, the National men's basketball 241 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:11.159 Coordinate coordinator of officials, will be with us and we'll talk about n C 242 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:16.240 double officiating. So stick around. 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Now 317 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:41.640 on the phone, we have Chris restat Or, the NCAA Coordinator of Officials. 318 00:20:41.640 --> 00:20:44.599 How are you doing, Chris? Going great? Going great, Steve. 319 00:20:44.680 --> 00:20:45.519 Thanks, how about you, guys? We're doing fine. Let me 320 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:51.839 do something just because you were official, boom, just to make you just 321 00:20:51.839 --> 00:20:55.400 to make you feel at home, Boom. You can't call you to do 322 00:20:55.480 --> 00:21:00.559 that, to do that when I was at games, just to make you 323 00:21:00.599 --> 00:21:03.559 feel like cold, you know, you don't feel more comfortable, Steve. 324 00:21:03.640 --> 00:21:08.119 That that I mean, Chris, that was completely completely unplanned. I had 325 00:21:08.160 --> 00:21:12.279 no idea. That was kind of what we didn't talk about it. He 326 00:21:12.440 --> 00:21:18.759 just did it know what to tell you, to tell you? Okay, 327 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:22.680 we don't hang up on us, Chris, we need you. So, 328 00:21:22.799 --> 00:21:25.759 hey, how's it going? And in another year at your position? Right? 329 00:21:25.839 --> 00:21:29.119 Two years now? Three years? Ye? Two years? Then are 330 00:21:29.119 --> 00:21:33.599 you glad you made the switch? Good question? You know, Steve, 331 00:21:33.720 --> 00:21:37.319 I really enjoy what I do. Back that I didn't even say I love 332 00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:41.200 what I do. I love my job. You know, every day has 333 00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:45.680 its or every job has its days, right, but I really like what 334 00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:48.880 I'm doing. And how long can you officiate? You know you think you 335 00:21:48.920 --> 00:21:52.720 think at times you know I'll be around forever. And there's a reality is 336 00:21:53.319 --> 00:21:57.039 you know, you know a lot of time that's with all of us. 337 00:21:57.319 --> 00:22:00.119 So what is the what is the main part of your job? What would 338 00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:03.839 you know if you say, okay, the main thing that I do that, 339 00:22:03.880 --> 00:22:08.440 I say, you spend the most time on what is that? That 340 00:22:08.920 --> 00:22:15.599 is? Uh, teaching and developing referees. Okay, yeah, I think 341 00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:22.880 my biggest job is to get us all to referee you're basically the same way, 342 00:22:23.359 --> 00:22:27.240 to see the floor the same way, and to just you know, 343 00:22:27.319 --> 00:22:32.799 elevate our thinking. Uh, you know, just make us better referees and 344 00:22:32.799 --> 00:22:34.680 and try to develop the young ones and you know, turn them in the 345 00:22:34.720 --> 00:22:40.039 final four referees, you know, I mean, that's that's a passion enough 346 00:22:40.079 --> 00:22:42.319 of doing it? Is this not that this is a new concept, but 347 00:22:42.640 --> 00:22:47.119 in your position, is it was there somewhere, uh, someone in the 348 00:22:47.160 --> 00:22:49.440 seat before you? Or is this kind of the way they're going going with 349 00:22:49.480 --> 00:22:53.559 the job now? No, there's always been a national coordinator. No, 350 00:22:53.799 --> 00:22:57.920 but for those same visions that you're you're talking about trying to be consistent and 351 00:22:57.920 --> 00:23:03.279 all that, Oh oh I'm sure. Yeah. I mean we all want 352 00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:07.039 to be we all want to see consistency across the country. But let's face 353 00:23:07.039 --> 00:23:11.960 it, every every conference is kind of you know, every conference is different, 354 00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:15.079 They play a different brand of basketball in a different style. So you 355 00:23:15.119 --> 00:23:19.000 know, the Big ten, for example, is officiated with the same rules, 356 00:23:19.039 --> 00:23:22.319 but the game is so different than the SEC for example, where they're 357 00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:26.240 up and down and the Big ten is more of a half court set. 358 00:23:26.359 --> 00:23:30.559 So so the style is different, which lends itself to different you know, 359 00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:34.480 call selection if you will, you know, but but you're still with the 360 00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:37.920 same rules. And I guess, guys, for me, it's like an 361 00:23:37.920 --> 00:23:41.359 approach, right, how we approach the game and you know, in a 362 00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:48.440 common sense sort of way and disciplined with our mechanics and our coverage and our 363 00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:52.160 whistles, and to think like minded in those terms. You know, a 364 00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:55.519 foul a foul you can sit in you you can watch a game. Okay, 365 00:23:55.519 --> 00:23:57.359 that's the voul. I get that, But to do it within the 366 00:23:57.400 --> 00:24:00.960 context of the flow of the game and the entirety of the game, there's 367 00:24:02.640 --> 00:24:07.359 it's just something we talked about a lot. Well. That brings up kind 368 00:24:07.359 --> 00:24:11.599 of an interesting thing because you know, as and I particularly remember this, 369 00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:15.200 you know, covering the team and then you know later just you know, 370 00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:22.000 paying attention. You know, it seemed like that PAC twelve team, you 371 00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:26.720 know PAC twelve games were officiated a certain way, and then the NCUBA tournament 372 00:24:26.759 --> 00:24:33.000 would start and the same PAC twelve official now doing an NC double A tournament 373 00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:37.799 game. Was it seemed to me, was not calling a foul or making 374 00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:41.680 a call in a NC double A tournament game, then maybe he made in 375 00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:45.079 a PAC twelve game, which led me to believe that the PAC twelve had 376 00:24:45.119 --> 00:24:49.759 some influence on how they wanted games officiated. Is that not the case? 377 00:24:49.880 --> 00:24:56.319 Do the conferences say we want to we want a little tighter officiating than say 378 00:24:56.319 --> 00:24:57.880 maybe the Big twelve or the Big ten, Because it seemed like you're go 379 00:24:57.880 --> 00:25:02.640 into the NC double A tournament now the game is more physical and you're not 380 00:25:02.680 --> 00:25:06.599 getting calls that you were getting when you were in the league. Is that 381 00:25:06.640 --> 00:25:18.599 a myth? H good questions here, I'm talk to your attorney. Hold 382 00:25:18.640 --> 00:25:23.480 On. I think it goes back to kind of you know, styles of 383 00:25:23.559 --> 00:25:29.960 play within the league. Now every conference and and and conferences now around the 384 00:25:29.960 --> 00:25:37.400 country are all part of consortiums or you'll have you know, one coordinator officials 385 00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:41.160 at the top with maybe a leadership team of two or three and they handled 386 00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:45.000 four or five, six, seven conferences that they oversee, right, So 387 00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:48.160 so there was somebody different in the West Coast, somebody different in the East, 388 00:25:48.279 --> 00:25:52.480 somebody different, you know, in the southeast and Midwest, that type 389 00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:56.960 of thing. So, uh, look, when when I was reaping back 390 00:25:57.000 --> 00:25:59.599 in then, you know, back in the day, you got to know 391 00:25:59.599 --> 00:26:02.680 where you're bread is buttered, right, you know. And and I made 392 00:26:02.680 --> 00:26:06.400 my bones on the West coast later in the Big twelve, but mostly in 393 00:26:06.440 --> 00:26:07.519 the Pac twelve and up the web down the West coast. So I did 394 00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:12.079 what that supervisor wanted. But when you get to the NCA tournament, now 395 00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:17.640 it's now it's the national coordinator that he's the he's the top guy. You 396 00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:21.160 know, Here's how I want you to referee this player these games. And 397 00:26:21.160 --> 00:26:25.400 and I guess when I talked about consistency, but my message is the same 398 00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:29.799 no matter where I go. So if we all kind of buy into that 399 00:26:29.920 --> 00:26:33.119 messaging and and and and look at things the same way, and again, 400 00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:37.400 you know, like mindedness of how we approach it, there shouldn't be a 401 00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:42.000 big difference from you know, what you do in your conference too. When 402 00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:45.599 you amen NCAY tournament, what happens, though, guys, is is you'll 403 00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:51.839 get Arizona against Michigan State. Okay, well, those styles are are vastly 404 00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:56.839 different. So you know, when those forces meet, h it's not as 405 00:26:56.920 --> 00:27:00.279 easy as you know, refereeing the games referee. You know, every night 406 00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:04.359 they play the same way. So that's I think the dynamic that comes into 407 00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:08.119 play that that may you know, suggest to you we're calling it differently. 408 00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:11.839 Right, So the one thing that you always hear, or at least I 409 00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:15.160 do. You'll say, all those PAC twelve refs, those PAC twelve reps, 410 00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:18.799 but it's a group of PAC twelve refs because they're covering the Western Athletic 411 00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:23.880 Conference or the in the Mountain West now the Gonzagas Conference. It's all the 412 00:27:23.880 --> 00:27:27.119 West coast, the West coast right now, is there a lump sum like 413 00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:30.640 maybe fifty sixty you have a choose from, you have a choice from. 414 00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:36.680 You know, I think in each consortium there's well over one hundred referees in 415 00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:40.559 each consortium. And I'll say this even more so back when I was reping 416 00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:45.680 guys. So they travel all over the country anymore. You know, I 417 00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:48.960 know where there was that story about Higgins a couple of years ago where you 418 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:52.240 know, they showed his travel for one week and it was literally you know, 419 00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:56.920 on the West coast to the midwest, Texas to the East coast, 420 00:27:57.319 --> 00:28:02.920 and you know, and then back to this house. So guys referee all 421 00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:07.160 over the country more and more and more, so you'll see the same referee 422 00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:11.880 in three or four different consortions, not just three or four different leagues within 423 00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:15.799 one consort, three or four different consortions. So I think that's the lending 424 00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:21.200 itself to more consistency across the country. Okay, so speaking speaking of those 425 00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:26.160 now with realignment, are you having to realign or somebody having to re align 426 00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:29.000 all those consorts? Right? Because now there is no PAC twelve. So 427 00:28:29.079 --> 00:28:32.839 now these guys who've been refing the PAC twelve, some of the teams they've 428 00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:33.960 been reffing are gone to the Big ten. Some have gone to the Big 429 00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:37.920 twelve, couple have gone to the ACC. There's two that are left out 430 00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:41.920 on the West coast. How's who realigns that and how is that getting done? 431 00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:48.680 Yeah, the commissioners have that is outside of my purview. Okay, 432 00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:52.920 I'll tell you that. Yeah, it doesn't matter to me what they do. 433 00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:56.440 But they've already realigned. So now now the Mountain West has gone into 434 00:28:56.480 --> 00:29:02.559 the Big ten consort that supervised will be assigning officials in the Mountain West Conference. 435 00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:06.119 Wow. Uh and the PAC twelve guys now assigning games in the Big 436 00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:11.599 twelve. So there's been some change you know there. Uh, you know 437 00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:15.559 the the cal Stamford or under the ACC guy, So he's going to use 438 00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:18.200 guys who are out west because you've got to get some local people to cover 439 00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:22.240 games and just you know, emergency situations or you want to bring them into 440 00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:26.000 your staff. So there's there's been a shake up, I guess you could 441 00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:32.039 say with staffs and alignment and and and all that, and it's it's ongoing. 442 00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:34.680 So what you talked about having a great life now and you enjoy your 443 00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:38.839 job, what makes for a good year? Is it less complaining from people 444 00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:44.039 who send you letters or or what what makes it? You know what I'm 445 00:29:44.039 --> 00:29:47.039 saying. It's like I go saying, if you're like an offensive lineman and 446 00:29:47.079 --> 00:29:49.480 you don't hear any penalties or no one's yelling at you, you've done pretty 447 00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:53.839 good. That's a pretty good night. Huh. Yeah. I still get 448 00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:59.079 my letters. I enjoy it. I don't reply, but I get I 449 00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:02.519 can email. This is how they come out and write the letter in market. 450 00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:07.240 I get a lot of emails. My look. Ultimately for me, 451 00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:11.319 uh, you know, we walked off that court Monday nine, and we 452 00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:14.279 all went out to dinner and had a good time at talk and I'll tell 453 00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:18.559 you nobody was talking about the officiating for most of the NCAA tournament. And 454 00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:22.599 and to me, that's a success, that's a win, that's a win 455 00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:25.000 for us. I bet you couldn't tell me right now who referee that came, 456 00:30:25.960 --> 00:30:30.319 No, Higgins, No he did not. He was a semi finals. 457 00:30:30.319 --> 00:30:32.160 I think I can't. You're you're right, I can't remember. I 458 00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:33.880 can't remember if there's like a I know the PAC twelve rests, right, 459 00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:37.720 I don't know their names, but I know them by face. You would 460 00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:40.839 know, you would recognize one guy who worked to find before I'll give you 461 00:30:40.440 --> 00:30:42.480 you know some guys that worked in the semis or the finals, the nine 462 00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:45.400 guys. No, bit, you can't. And and to me that's a 463 00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:49.720 win. Yeah, you know, that's part of the messaging. It's to 464 00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:53.400 be a referee that you have to It takes a certain person, you know, 465 00:30:53.480 --> 00:30:57.440 with a certain character and personality, and everybody's a little bit different, 466 00:30:57.519 --> 00:31:00.880 but but you have to have a little bit the ego to so to do 467 00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:07.519 what we do, and under these conditions that we work in, you have 468 00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:11.279 to be pretty self confident right to do what you do. But but there's 469 00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:15.200 a line to understand. The game is not about us. The game is 470 00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:19.200 about the kids and the student athlete, and they have to come first. 471 00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:22.720 You may you may think when your career ends, you know, they're going 472 00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:26.680 to quit playing basketball games because you're not anymore. Yeah, yeah, I 473 00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:33.119 found out real quick. Yeah gone, So yeah, I didn't have imagined 474 00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:37.839 in a while. Yeah, I don't have a referee anymore. Care I 475 00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:45.880 guessed, never got that memo. It's my guy. Okay, so so 476 00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:49.440 okay, just to get into the technical last, So the consorts, they're 477 00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:55.079 the ones that schedule their conferences, right, So you don't schedule conference during 478 00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:56.799 the regular but you're the one I do not, But you're the one that 479 00:31:56.839 --> 00:32:01.880 schedules once the tournament starts. I schedule the NCAA Tournament, the n i 480 00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:07.319 T tournament, and then I also schedule some uh you know, some Hall 481 00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:10.000 of Fame games, pre season stuff. You know some of the MTE events. 482 00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:15.480 Are you I'll sign those games and talking about developing, so I'll bring 483 00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:19.400 in some some of the lesser experienced referees and put them in those situations and 484 00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:22.960 watch how they work and talk to them and work with them, and you 485 00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:25.720 know what I do. So what do you do during the basketball season? 486 00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:31.720 Then what do I do? I travel? I travel as much now as 487 00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:36.039 I did when I was Yeah, yeah, you just go see guys, 488 00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:40.480 did you see? And yeah, scout. I sit in the crowd, 489 00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:44.680 I sit and watch I scout, but I go in the locker rooms. 490 00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:45.680 We talk, we break down the you know, a couple of plays, 491 00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:49.359 talk about it, and then I'll move, you know, going our way. 492 00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:52.519 I'm going to the next game. The great thing about now is if 493 00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:54.160 I'm sitting in the airport and they cancel my flight and I'm like, whatever, 494 00:32:54.240 --> 00:33:00.640 I'll just go home. You're not still scrambling. Yeah, I don't 495 00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:02.799 have to go. Yeah, he's just steps to me and I kept some 496 00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:07.920 popcorn. Yeah wow, okay, Yeah, so you have having fun. 497 00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:13.519 I'm having a blast. Yeah, really, I really. I mean every 498 00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:16.839 now and then, you know, you get into situations You're like, okay, 499 00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:20.880 I got to deal with it. But that's okay. It comes with 500 00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:23.559 the territory, and sir, how tempting is it to shoot back at some 501 00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:30.920 of those emails and stuff that you get. Sometimes I want to sometimes because 502 00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:34.720 because they come at you differently. You know, some guys they just let 503 00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:37.000 you have it, right, both barrows. This is the worst. You 504 00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:39.519 know, I'm ruining college basketball, you know, Okay, But then other 505 00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:43.920 people come to you like, look, I've refereed for thirty years and blah 506 00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:46.599 blah blah, you know, and and it's almost polite, and you kind 507 00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:50.079 of want to respond, but I don't even know if they're real. You 508 00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:52.400 know, with all this stuff going around, I just leave it alone. 509 00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:57.119 Right. Well, some of you guys don't have egos like you. So 510 00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:04.799 if you guys said an email, well all right, we haven't pay, 511 00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:07.039 you'd be one of the few, right that would reply. So we do 512 00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:10.440 have to actually pay attention to the game. That's not gonna happen. That's 513 00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:14.559 gonna happen. Thank you man, Thank you, Chris. Hey, Chris, 514 00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:17.760 thanks a bunch man. Have a great summer you're talking to Thank you 515 00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:22.840 much. Love of fun is Chris rast start of the national co coordinator of 516 00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:27.679 of officials for men's basketball. Well his job is a little different than what 517 00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:30.920 I thought it was. But you know he's still got he's more corporate guy. 518 00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:32.440 Well. See, the thing is, you know his job is to 519 00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:37.639 make sure that refs are good refs, and that's that's an important thing because, 520 00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:40.320 as you said, people lose their minds when they think a game has 521 00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:45.840 been officiated poorly, whether it's the n b A, whether it's a little 522 00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:50.559 league game. And you'll never you'll never make everybody happy, ever make him 523 00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:54.760 because if you're doing it and you're you're officiating in Tempe, someone from Arizona's 524 00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:59.320 always upset, right, and if vice versa, they hate us, right, 525 00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:01.760 and you know they hate Arizona fans, right, Arizona fans. And 526 00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:05.360 he's, as he said, to get out of the final four, and 527 00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:08.079 all the conversation was about the games and not about the officiating. Sure that 528 00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:12.320 was a winner, and that's very true, because what's the one thing you 529 00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:15.119 at the Final four? What did you hear the most? I'll tell you 530 00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:19.920 what I heard, just how good Connecticut was, you know, okay, 531 00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:22.519 but nothing about the official I'll supersede that with how bad the games were. 532 00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:25.599 Oh the games were terrible. Yeah, oh yeah, the games were awful. 533 00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:29.360 And then but it was because Connecticut was so damn good. They just 534 00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:32.920 couldn't. They were not enjoying all the watch and yeah, and you thought 535 00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:37.079 the championship game would be a good game if it was Purdue Connecticut, and 536 00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:40.519 it was it was another bad game. But officiated, well, nobody complained. 537 00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:44.000 And there you go. And that's what you as he said, that's 538 00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:46.440 all right, let's take a break. We'll be back. We'll take your 539 00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:49.800 calls five, two, zero, four, one, six, seventy forty 540 00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:52.760 anything you want to talk about. Lots of stuff going on. Stick around. 541 00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:54.920 If you're an Arizona men's basketball fan, you know it's been successful for 542 00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:59.480 nearly forty years. Now take a look back at the Loudelsen era. In 543 00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:01.119 my new book, Lessons from Loot, it was a labor of love through 544 00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:05.800 the eyes of twenty five former players, coaches, and friends to give insight 545 00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:07.840 to the coach and the man who led them, competed against them, and 546 00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:13.320 inspired them twenty five chapters for his twenty five years as Arizona's beloved coach. 547 00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:16.440 Lessons from Lout is an insight to how he built the program into a national 548 00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:22.119 powerhouse. What one email me at Steve dot Rivera ninety five at gmail dot 549 00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:28.159 com. Hi This is formal Wildcat Leman Huntly with Arizona Health imagine how home 550 00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:31.239 GM can change your health, your comfort, and your time. Arizona Health 551 00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:36.239 is everything you need to transform your personal space and your life. 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Stay yet Fox Sports fourteen fifty say welcome 569 00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:08.000 back to Iying the ball hero Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, You're 570 00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:14.280 Jay, and your Kevin got fourteen minutes. If anybody wants to call us, 571 00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:16.239 please do. I'd like to hear from you as always be good to 572 00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:20.400 here for you on a Monday. How was your weekend? Did you hear 573 00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:28.840 anything the big party I want to say the Centurion Centurions. No, it 574 00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:31.159 was pretty good. I guess I didn't see too well. It was at 575 00:38:31.159 --> 00:38:35.800 the teacher I've been in years. It's the first one I've I've missed. 576 00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:37.960 That's why I asked. I heard you're one of those. Yeah, I 577 00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:40.360 just I just kind of got there was a lot of things going on in 578 00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:47.199 the derby. I've gone to to the second the TCC the Motley Crue group, 579 00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:49.880 and I had a party to go to, so I was you know, 580 00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:52.679 yeah, so it was too busy. Yep, No, I didn't. 581 00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:54.599 I didn't hear anything about it. But probably is a good thing. 582 00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:58.440 You know, like nobody that we know got arrested or anything like that. 583 00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:04.960 Okay, there's the that's again. If you don't hear about it, then 584 00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:08.840 it's probably a good time. Yeah. Like Chris just said, if you 585 00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:13.199 didn't hear about some degenerate stuff going on, then then you know it was 586 00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:15.719 good. Yeah, okay, okay, Yeah, And if you want to 587 00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:19.960 call five two o four one six, seventy four forty you would like to 588 00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:22.480 hear from you A lot of stuff going on. Some Arizona football again picking 589 00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:24.559 up a player. Yeah, I don't know if you're going to talk about 590 00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:28.480 this and breaking the ball, I'll get it out anyways. Women's golf, 591 00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:34.840 the first round of the of the Las Vegas Regional is over. They're playing 592 00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:37.360 it at the Spanish Trail Country Club, Up and Up in Vegas, and 593 00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:43.800 Arizona is tied for six. There are two strokes behind fifth place Baylor. 594 00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:49.920 It's a twelve team regional and the top five teams advanced to the national tournament. 595 00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:52.679 So there are two strokes out of that they've shot six over today. 596 00:39:53.440 --> 00:39:59.559 It's Arkansas shot eight under, Florida State, five under Purdue, four under 597 00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:04.559 UCLA, three over Arizona four over, I mean Baylor four over than Arizona. 598 00:40:04.599 --> 00:40:07.360 This is this is the women Arizona women in the West Region in the 599 00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:12.320 Vegas regional Vegas Region. Okay, so how many regionals do they have. 600 00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:16.119 There's there's six. Okay, there's six. The top teams five five teams 601 00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:22.559 from each regional go so there's thirty teams that go to the championship. And 602 00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:25.320 uh that the championship is a really long it's like a week long event. 603 00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:30.559 Because you play a bunch of you play, it just takes it takes a 604 00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:35.559 long time. But it's a it's a you know, Arizona, they got 605 00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:37.119 a shot at it. You know, they're not out of it. There. 606 00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:39.800 They're not Xavier who's twenty two over par and in last place. So 607 00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:44.800 it's a you know, right, they're right there. So they did good 608 00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:49.559 today. Cool anything else? So we need to talk about golf space based 609 00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:52.719 yeah, Tennis, goa, there's a whole schedule of stuff and we can 610 00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:54.559 we can bring it up during breaking this. But I just got you know, 611 00:40:54.679 --> 00:40:57.840 I'm a I'm a Wildcat Club member, Steve, So I get this 612 00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:01.480 email with it this week and airs on ethic. I did get. I 613 00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:07.599 haven't taken it, but he did get Remember uh, when when Desiree read 614 00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:12.880 France while she talked about surveys and she likes doing well, I got a 615 00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:17.400 Wildcat Club survey. Okay, I started it and immediately wanted my email and 616 00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:21.679 and stuff, and I was going to open it up to see what they 617 00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:23.280 were asking. But I was going to actually have to do the survey to 618 00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:25.639 see what they were asking. So I'll go, I'll probably do it and 619 00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:30.559 I'll let you know what they were asking. So I read No, I 620 00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:34.800 read Bruce's story over the weekend about Tommy. He had touched him last week 621 00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:37.760 about to get together. There's one again tomorrow, all right, I'm on 622 00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:42.840 basketball obviously, and he talked about the departing of Uma, right, Yeah, 623 00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:45.159 did you read that story? And just how was it was nothing that 624 00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:51.199 we didn't already talk about in speculations. Yeah, it was mutual, you 625 00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:53.239 know, once he's done, the previous is ready to come up and read 626 00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:57.840 more. The next guy be the next guy. It was probably best for 627 00:41:57.960 --> 00:42:00.519 him to go to spread his wings a little. He talked about that the 628 00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:05.599 reported or legend or one point, but he said, I'm not talking about 629 00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:07.559 that. That's what he said. Nobody talks about that. All these numbers 630 00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:10.400 are just being thrown around, right, good, there's no confirmation of it, 631 00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:14.960 correct, correct. Uh, you know there's this money out there. 632 00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:16.280 But I thought it was kind of funny because it was typical Tommy, you 633 00:42:16.360 --> 00:42:20.199 know, uh, throughout the whole thing. You know, we're gonna reflect 634 00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:22.920 and we're gonna try to do better, YadA YadA. I mean there was 635 00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:27.039 nothing that you didn't kind of already figure out. Yeah no, I yeah, 636 00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:30.400 everybody, but but it was it was very smart of Bruce to go 637 00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:32.239 up there, get him before the first thing, and then be able to 638 00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:35.719 come up with a story. I ever talked to him when you know, 639 00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:37.360 one on one, when nobody else was there to true bugging. So that 640 00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:40.119 was true. He'll still get the question tomorrow, but yeah, no, 641 00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:43.920 he's already had this. The one thing he didn't mention or didn't talk about, 642 00:42:43.960 --> 00:42:47.639 maybe he did was boswell, yeah about you know the reasons behind that, 643 00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:52.400 I really don't care. But it was party, party, a party 644 00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:53.920 of the ways as well. It's one of those things that people just want 645 00:42:53.960 --> 00:42:58.920 to know because they're nosy. Yeah right, no, yeah, And the 646 00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:00.639 thing is it's pretty for the best for all sides. Yeah yeah, but 647 00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:05.719 but you know it's you know, it's Sarsona basketball and something significant happened, 648 00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:07.480 so we want to know. And that's Arizona fans. Oh by the way 649 00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:12.079 too, you know Facebook things up yesterday or the day before, there was 650 00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:16.639 somebody did you see this complaining how the the or you can have women's basketball? 651 00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:22.039 We can talk about this the transfer card lately. So some guy, 652 00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:23.239 some older dudes, because I go back and see who they are, who 653 00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:27.199 they are they are, So he says, how come how come this wasn't 654 00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:30.079 reported? And how come wasn't reported right away? And blah blah blah, 655 00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:35.239 how come women's doesn't get no transfer portal? Is transfer portal either? They 656 00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:37.440 want to decide to say it because the coach is not saying it. It's 657 00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:40.800 all about the individuals decided to do that, and nobody reported this and how 658 00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:44.840 did this happen? YadA, YadA, and I'm thinking it's this is what 659 00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:49.719 the world's coming to. Now, you're not gonna get There aren't reporters that 660 00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:52.960 can get go in there and go to idea, Okay, idea, who's 661 00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:54.559 who else is transferring? Right? It doesn't work that. It doesn't work 662 00:43:54.599 --> 00:43:58.079 that way anymore. I mean, like the whole thing about jayde and Bradley, 663 00:43:58.199 --> 00:44:01.599 right, nobody knew that he had declared for the NBA draft except you 664 00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:06.320 saw it. Until you saw it, until somebody said, here's the list 665 00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:10.079 of NBA draft. So he says, guys and and and he was on 666 00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:14.079 the list. So he says, this happens all the times in football. 667 00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:17.119 Somebody says something happens in his reporter right away, and he said, basketball, 668 00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:21.280 just as the way it is, when do we find out that the 669 00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:27.320 guy's in the transferport when they usually usually when they announced it or they've leaked 670 00:44:27.320 --> 00:44:30.519 it to somebody, and he gets and he gets it, and nobody goes 671 00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:35.679 in there. There aren't investigative sports reporters who are calling up the football office 672 00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:37.360 every day to say, okay, who's in the transfer port of today? 673 00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:42.360 It doesn't work that way. I was like frustrated this guy was persistent, 674 00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:45.400 the guy people were explaining it to him, and he wouldn't take it. 675 00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:49.000 He wouldn't. That wasn't the right answer. He insisted that there was the 676 00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:52.199 reason why this was happening. Open up another baggage, I think, can't 677 00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:54.239 come on, Well, that's the whole thing. It was an older dude. 678 00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:58.159 I'm thinking, don't. This is what the world has come to with 679 00:44:58.199 --> 00:45:02.440 people at any age worried about this, demanding we know now everything there is 680 00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:07.880 to know about a basket. There was not enough a transparency that I love 681 00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:10.519 that word, because the coaches need to tell you now what they're eating for 682 00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:15.679 lunch. When has there ever been transparent? In fact, he was worse. 683 00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:19.920 I mean it was. It was much more transparent in the eighties and 684 00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:23.039 nineties than it is today. But it was never transparent. We didn't know 685 00:45:23.159 --> 00:45:29.039 everything we needed. We didn't know in eighty eight and eighty nine and eighty 686 00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:32.639 seven that Sean Elliott was thinking about transferring. Yeah, that he didn't that 687 00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:36.039 he was so upset with how things were going that he didn't want to be 688 00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:39.280 here right. We did not know that. We did not know that Harvey 689 00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:44.119 Mason when he was on the court didn't want to disappoint Steve Kerr. We 690 00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:47.119 don't know those things because we're not A we're not supposed to know B. 691 00:45:47.239 --> 00:45:51.119 We've never known those things. Well. In fact, I'm trying to get 692 00:45:51.119 --> 00:45:54.320 Defendi Annabam to come on the show. He has a fantastic story. He's 693 00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:58.559 a big We have had him on two months ago, three months ago, 694 00:45:58.920 --> 00:46:00.159 it's been longer than that. Yeah, maybe even a year ago. And 695 00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:05.480 I was seen on not TikTok, but on an Instagram and I'm thinking, 696 00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:07.920 I didn't know your story. I gotta get you on. So I tried 697 00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:10.239 to remember last week I told you I was trying to get it, and 698 00:46:10.239 --> 00:46:13.239 I says, I can't tell you now, but I'll tell you where we 699 00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:15.159 get it. And he hasn't. He has a respondent. Keybody knows. 700 00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:17.639 I want to talk about it, but it was just and I won't say 701 00:46:17.639 --> 00:46:21.599 it now, but when I get him on, it's just a fan backstory 702 00:46:21.639 --> 00:46:24.599 of how he ended up coming here and how we grew up saying, how 703 00:46:24.599 --> 00:46:28.760 do we not know he was here four years and he was one of those 704 00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:32.360 stories that we didn't know and it's yeah, and look you know what there 705 00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:39.480 and today with the control now that exactly specifically, the athletic departments keep over 706 00:46:39.559 --> 00:46:45.719 their players and their coaches. You're just gonna know less and you're only gonna 707 00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:47.760 know what they want you to know exactly. If they don't want you to 708 00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:51.239 know something, then you're not gonna know. And that's the way it is 709 00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:54.159 because you don't get to go You don't get to go to their practice and 710 00:46:54.199 --> 00:46:57.320 then go get a player and take them aside and go talk to him. 711 00:46:57.360 --> 00:46:59.039 True. He used to be able to do well. True. Nowadays, 712 00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:01.239 if they get hurt, twisted ankle would break an ankle whatever, Because you 713 00:47:01.239 --> 00:47:05.400 don't go to practice, you you only get what they tell you. And 714 00:47:05.519 --> 00:47:08.199 unless the guy or the girl who twists the ankle reports that says, oh 715 00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:12.559 man, I missed up today. Whatever, Because that's back in the day 716 00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:15.719 you were chasing Michael Bates, we were changing Michael Baits, and recruiting was 717 00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:17.079 just so crazy. We sit by the phone and wait for a phone call 718 00:47:17.239 --> 00:47:20.719 to get the call back. Now they're just put it on Instagram and say, 719 00:47:20.920 --> 00:47:22.000 hey, I've just had a transfer, I'm going here, I'm going 720 00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:25.719 there. They break their own stories exactly, makes it very easy creating their 721 00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:29.719 own news in one way, it's easier, but another way, in another 722 00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:34.320 way, Steve First, I would hate to be a newspaper reporter right now. 723 00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:37.239 There's very few one the twenty four to seven aspect of it, but 724 00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:43.039 also that we need to know everything aspect of it, every little detail. 725 00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:45.519 And if you don't get every little detail, somebody like this guy is pissed 726 00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:49.079 at you because you're not getting every little detail for them. You know what, 727 00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:52.599 you go find out? Yeah yeah, well and you found out maybe 728 00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:55.239 a half hour too late or a day too Yeah. How is that affecting 729 00:47:55.280 --> 00:48:00.880 your life? Yeah? I don't know, because you know again, you 730 00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:04.480 know, you and I, right, we went through this. You know, 731 00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:06.719 I do my stuff and I do whatever it's been. But every day, 732 00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:09.159 as the minute the Tucson citizens came out, I grabbed that to see 733 00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:14.320 what I got my ask kicked on or whose ass I kicked? Right, 734 00:48:14.360 --> 00:48:16.400 and because I wanted to know did I miss something? And that's how you 735 00:48:16.480 --> 00:48:22.800 knew. Now it's like every fifteen minutes something could come out that you've missed, 736 00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:27.239 and people expect to know now what happened fifteen minutes ago instead of the 737 00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:31.199 next day. And that's what made the journalism world or the news business here 738 00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:34.719 in this town a pretty good one. There was really just because you had 739 00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:37.400 two gatekeepers fighting with each other. And now we saw last week what happened 740 00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:42.199 on a Channel four, and I'm sure it's going to happen somewhere other other 741 00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:45.679 places or they're just cutting staffs and cutting staffs and it's not for the best 742 00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:49.159 for people who watch TV. Yeah, I think it's a really under the 743 00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:52.880 radar aspect of newspapers and what people are missing. But people said, well, 744 00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:55.119 you got you. Guys are terrible anyways, we don't want you. 745 00:48:55.199 --> 00:49:00.400 Well, you know what you got you. There was fierce competition between the 746 00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:04.920 two newspapers. Everybody wanted to get the stories and because of that, reporters 747 00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:13.480 worked harder. They did they right, They cultivated sources, you tried to 748 00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:16.039 you. Your goal every day was to get a story that you knew the 749 00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:20.559 other guys did and because of that, you got better news, you got 750 00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:24.199 better information. And that's what's missing right now because now all the information is 751 00:49:24.199 --> 00:49:29.840 coming directly from the U of a. Pemic College or the Arizona Bowl or 752 00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:35.360 whoever right who broke the air Zona ball story. Airzon a ball right exactly. 753 00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:37.599 No, you're right. It's funny because we have this show here and 754 00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:42.320 your voice is different than my voice, and we sometimes many times disagree. 755 00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:45.400 Right, so your story is different than my story or perceptions. About ten 756 00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:49.360 years ago, I was at an event, maybe a boxing event, and 757 00:49:50.119 --> 00:49:52.480 some guy who is maybe twenty years younger than me came up to me. 758 00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:55.000 He says, mister Barrell, I've been reading yourself I as a kid. 759 00:49:55.159 --> 00:49:58.239 Let me ask you a quick question, and I said, go ahead. 760 00:49:58.400 --> 00:50:01.719 He says, how could you and be at the same event and have two 761 00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:05.719 totally different perceptions? I said, it's just how we how we kind of 762 00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:09.159 see things. You just always see things you just do. Or or a 763 00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:15.719 story that I tell often two people would read the same story and come out 764 00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:20.480 of it with different things, and and and the demonstration of that was was 765 00:50:20.920 --> 00:50:22.639 it was like it was after Larry Smith had been gone for a little while, 766 00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:25.360 and Greg, you know, it was always in his notes and stuff 767 00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:30.000 like that. And in the same day, in the same day, the 768 00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:35.119 Arizon Daily Star ran side by side two letters to the editor from a Greg 769 00:50:35.119 --> 00:50:37.480 Hanson column that he had done on Larry Smith while he was at USC and 770 00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:43.400 one said, Larry, Greg loves Larry Smith so much? Why doesn't he 771 00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:46.000 go to USC with him? And the other one said, Greg hates Larry 772 00:50:46.039 --> 00:50:51.840 Smith so much? Why don't you just leave? And they read the same 773 00:50:51.880 --> 00:50:55.639 story. They read the same column. But it's true, it was and 774 00:50:55.679 --> 00:51:00.280 that's a that's a one story. And I how that story to this day 775 00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:04.599 because I laughed when I saw that. Well that's back when the sport the 776 00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:08.760 sports section had Sunday letters to the editor and and two people read the same 777 00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:13.639 thing. And one thought came from that thought they Greg hated Larry Smith, 778 00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:19.159 and one thought that Larry loved Greg loved Larry Smith. That's crazy. So 779 00:51:19.239 --> 00:51:22.559 that that's that's the world we live in, we used to live in, 780 00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:24.280 or whatever. Because it's just so when I read that, I'm thinking, 781 00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:30.800 where's this guy's so important? Yeah, well, yeah, you know, 782 00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:34.360 and and and again it's a it's just a whole different deal, you know. 783 00:51:34.360 --> 00:51:37.639 And Steve, as a PR consultant over the last you know, a 784 00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:42.480 few years, I've been advising people, you know, you guys make the 785 00:51:42.519 --> 00:51:44.639 news. Now, you don't have to be in you know, you don't 786 00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:46.280 have to get in the newspaper, you don't have to get on TV. 787 00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:50.960 Create your own news and that's what that's what that's what they're doing. And 788 00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:54.199 that's why. That's why the news business because now people are like me, 789 00:51:54.440 --> 00:51:59.119 are choosing where they're gonna get their news from. You follow whoever you follow, 790 00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:01.320 and you find directly from them the things that you want to know. 791 00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:05.440 I mean, I follow a bunch of newspapers and stuff like that still because 792 00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:09.039 I follow you know, writers and stuff. But but you know I I 793 00:52:09.079 --> 00:52:13.119 you know, I follow the Arizona Bowl. Well no, exactly. Well, 794 00:52:13.159 --> 00:52:16.679 here's the point of people watching our NBC compared to Fox or you know, 795 00:52:17.320 --> 00:52:20.639 they want to hear what they want to hear. Exactly. You go 796 00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:24.119 to my my my Comcast directory, and you don't see Fox News as one 797 00:52:24.159 --> 00:52:29.320 of my favorite You can't find them on my director because because I'm a CNN 798 00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:30.920 guy. Yeah, okay, let's cool. All right, let's get out 799 00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:34.480 of here, take a break. We're gonna come back and we're gonna breaking 800 00:52:34.519 --> 00:52:35.079 news with Kevin