Hi, welcome back to give us Mark leave. I'm Megan and oh we
Oh my god. When this episode comes out, we'll have seen paramore.
I'm so excited. I'm so fucking excited. Yeah. No, the both
of us are gonna be absolutely robbed. Robin us no rabbit. We will
be like a squirrel with rabies. So I have a fuck marry kill for
you. Oh fun, Okay, give it to me. Roast potatoes,
mashed potatoes, or chips like fries. Fuck, marry your kill. I'm
going to kill the roasties. I'm going to marry the chips. So you're
gonna fuck the mashed potato. Yeah, okay, here's one for you.
Garlic potatoes, chips or fried potato Fried potatoes? Do you mean like fried
slices of potato? Yeah, like like fried and a frying pan, like
mmmmmm. Okay, So I'm gonna kill the fried potato. I'm gonna marry
the chips. I'm gonna marry the chips because you know what chips are so
um they can't go with anything. You know why. I also married the
chips because like you're having a burger chips, you're having chicken nuggets chips you
know, you're having a pizza side of chips, like you have chips with
everything. You're having a mental health crisis. Chips chips, And I'm gonna
say chips, we mean rise but fries. So for those Americans, we
mean fries. I'm gonna fuck the garlic potatoes because you only have them once
in a while anyway, but they're so damn good. Would they make you
feel so bad afterwards? Like a bat one might stand? So Megan has
ips, I'm an Ibbs girl, and so the creamy garlic potatoes don't tend
to agree with her. I shan't be having those before the concert anyway.
I'd prefer if you didn't. I feel like I'm gonna need like a nervous
poo before the concert. It's like, what if they see me, I'll
stand guard at the bathroom door. I'll do the same for you. I
like the emo tweenagers. Get you have, I have, I have a
good one frame Megan, okay, Marie, kill Paramore, fall Up Boy
or fifty cent Okay, immediately killed fifty cent immediately, because you know what,
I used to love him and then we saw him live and he was
so fucking bad. Me he was so you know the way at the end
of a concert, you know, usually do the ola so that the band
knows they want us back for an encore. The crowd was silent. The
crowd was sigh lend. You could have heard a pin drop. Everybody just
left. No, we don't want It's okay, you don't have to.
Yeah. So, I don't know. Between fall Up Boy and Paramore is
really hard because I was raised on I've raised myself on both of them.
Fall Up Boy was really really big into like in my like from fourteen to
maybe seventeen. Yeah, they were like my band. But then the older
I get, the more I can relate to Paramore HM. So I think
Mary Paramore and fuck follow Boy and also fucks on the Fallo point. Patrick
Stump, he's my guy. He's my man ever since soul Punk came out
and he was out snazzy and I remember going into HMV to buy that CD.
It's the only CD I ever distinctly remember going to buy Iconic great album.
If you have if you haven't listened to it, Patrick Stump a follow
Boy, Soul Punk, go listen to it. But everything that he does
is just touched by absolute Magic so amazing. Okay, so what are your
favorite bands? They're not going to tell you, so I don't have to
put myself into that dilemma. No, because you made me do it.
You made me do it. Um, my favorite bands would be Paramore,
Pains of Leon. Fucking I was going to say Cold Line because in my
head, Kings of Leon, Cold Line, and Cold Plate are all the
same. So you're like it's one of them. Yeah, and the coronas
like those four bands are all the same to me. Yeah. Oh,
Fleetwood Mac, so fuck Mary killed Fleetwood Mac, Paramore or Kings of Leon.
I'm marrying Fleetwood Mac. I'm fucking Kings of Leon and Rip. I'm
so sorry. I would kill for her who No, neve I would.
I would kill both Kings of Leon and Paramore to go see Fleetwood Mac life.
You know what I'm going to tell Haley Williams. You said that,
Hayley, please forgive me. I'm texting her right now. I'm going to
FaceTime here later. I've seen Kings of Leon four times and I would see
them another four times. Really, Yeah, it was so like all I
know is sex on your sex is on fire? What text is on fire?
Wow, that's so good. So their album they have some of the
best songs. Okay, so I don't know if they would be your vibe
because they are very different to like Paramour and Folly Boy. Um, but
you have like Milk four Kicks. Yeah, there's a song called Milk where
nobody Knows and you have knocked up charmer on call. True Love Way Fans
Fans is so good. But it disappoints me. Well why because they wrote
it about their English fans. Oh why you why you break my heart like
that? I think you know what in that scenario, that's the only time
it's okay to group us with the English when you're listening, we're grouped in
there too. Arizona is another one of my favorites, and Revelry and is
such a depressing song. But um, I will be in the shower like
belting her out. When you're crying in the shower, nobody can tell it's
fine. Yeah, that's when you'll catch me. Um. They have really
good songs and sex on Fire, I Needs Somebody or probably not their best
and they're the two that like everybody went feral for. I know Paramore's cover
of You Somebody when the reason why I would go see Kings of Leon so,
like, why I've been to see them so many times and why I
would go see them so many more times is because they sound like what you
listen to. They're a bit like paramount, Like what you're listening to when
you're watching them live is what you're listening to when you're listening to their albums.
Yeah, okay. I love that about a band when they can pull
like yeah, like you're just like yes, like this. And one of
the girls, so I went to go see them last summer. That was
my fourth time, and one of the girls and work happened to be going
as well, and she was like, her friend just had a spare ticket
and she was like, I know, like two songs, but like it's
a free concert, fuck it, why not? And then she came out
of the concert and she was like, oh my god. She was like
they were actually so good. I love that. I love when you're not
expecting something. I was the same going to Pink one year. I was
like, she's meant to be unreal, She's insane. It was some outdoor
place I can't remember where we were, and fu yeah, she came out
in a fucking zip line. I was a girl. Hell, but it
was amazing. She's she's absolutely in life. She's got some set along sonner
m hmm. Well, I'm sorry to pay more than I killed them,
Okay, but you have to put it into perspective. I'm telling mother.
So that's enough rambling for you guys. That is they give us music,
portion of give us more over that's probably like from forty minutes long or something.
Anyway, that is enough enough tomfoolery from us. So the last week
we talked about Peter Sutcliffe. It's great guy, great guy. It was
plastic for you guys, it was like an hour ago for us. So
I guess I'll just jump straight. I So last week I talked about where
Peter was from, and a bit about his like growing up and his siblings
and how he bounced from job to job, and then we soon discovered that
he has a weird obsession with death, likes to touch dead bodies and then
go eat lunch. Hmmm tasty, And then we got into his first three
attacks and then his first murder. So far, the police have not connected
any of this. Why would they crazy? Who would they? Wow?
Wow? When they dawn Wilson joined the podcast WHOA. Some of my favorite
tiktoks are compilations of him saying, Wow, I can't I hate his face
though. He's a pop face to me, like absolutely, and he's not
that great of an actor either, but you know, it just can't help
Wow, that's crazy. So on January twentieth, nineteen seventy six, Peter
pulled up the side forty two year old Emily Jackson. Emily and her husband
Sydney had fallen on hard times and to try and support their family, Emily
began to work as a X worker. Peter saw outside of a pub in
Leeds and asked her how much for some business. She told him five pounds
and he agreed, which I'm going to just stay as I did in the
previous episode. Five pounds might not sound like a lot of money to us
now, but you have to remember that this is the mid seventies, so
it's worth like, you know, Yeah, Emily got into Peter's care and
told him to drive to a close down factory that was around the corner.
And I'm pretty sure so I was confused as to whether it was like an
abandoned factory or like it was closed down, but I actually just think it
was like closed, you know, it was shutting time. There was nobody
working. Yeah, Peter only half to turn the key in the ignition when
it was time to leave. So they go in. He pays her his
five pounds, They do their business, and then they get back into the
car and he's half turning the key in the ignition and he's like, oh,
my car won't start, So Peter gets out of the car and pretends
to check the engine. Emily then gets out of the car and goes over
and uses her lighter to try to try help Peter see because it's late at
night, so she's like, here, I have a lighter. Maybe this
will help you seeing what you're doing a bit better. Yeah. Then,
as she's linked in to the car trying to help Peter out, Peter takes
out a hammer and hits her on the back of the head. Emily then
fell to the ground and Peter hit her a second time. He then dragged
Emily's body back into the factory. Peter then proceeded to stab Emily fifty two
times in the torso and neck with a screwdriver. So he's moved from a
knife onto a screwdriver or was it just because do you think that was what
was available to him. I think it's just because that's what it was available
to him. Think it's because he didn't have a knife on him, because
he doesn't really use it again like he I think he does use it like
one or two more times. But again I think it's just it's what he
had. It was a weapon of availability. But also the difference and strength
that it takes from using a knife to prepare to a screw driver is insane.
The next morning, Emily's body was found by a man taking a short
cut to work. At first he thought it was a mannequin with the legs
sticking out. So he had tried to cover her body with like rubble that
was round, and he could just see like legs sticking out of the rubble,
and at first he thought it was just like a mannequin's legs and didn't
pay too close attention, and then he realized, no, that's not a
mannequin, that's a human. God, that horrible realization. I can imagine
your brain piecing that together and then having that very sudden realization. It must
be horrific. Police quickly arrived on scene, and it didn't take them long
to connect Emily's murder to Wilma's murder because the emo was just exactly the same.
Police questioned everyone at the pub that night, and one person remembered seeing
Emily get into a land Rover, which is not what Peter drove, so
that is false information, okay. They also claimed that it was a man
that looked to be in his fifties, which again, Peter was not in
his fifties. At the factory, police found a footprint that was a size
seven Wellies and a similar print on Emily's tie. Police discovered seemen on Emily's
clothes and proof of sexual intercourse because however, she because she was a sex
worker, it was hard to determine if it was consensual or not, which
I'm pretty sure you can determine, but yeah, usually they can tell by
like tears and stuff. A month later, the police released a statement connecting
the murders. They said, quote, the man we are looking for seems
to have a pathological hatred towards sex workers and good time girls, and it's
the type who could kill again. He's a sadistic killer and may well be
a sexual pervert. I cannot stress in strongly enough how vital it is that
we catch this brutal killer before he brings tragedy to another family. Okay,
so do it then. That was the statement from the head of police or
the head of the investigation. On May ninth, nineteen seventy six, Peter
was sitting in his car in the dark in Leads. He saw twenty year
old Marcella Claxton, who was walking home from a parody. Peter offered her
a ride home, and she accepted. Peter then pulled over the side a
feel and offered Marcella five pounds for sex in the grass. Marcella was not
a sex worker and declined his offer. She then told him that she needed
to pee and got out of the car and went behind the bush. Marcella
was hoping that if she took long enough that Peter would just get fed up
of waiting on her and drive off. She came out from behind the bush
to find Peter waiting. To find Peter walking towards her, She then heard
something drop and joked, quote, I hope that's not a knife. Peter
told her it was his wallet and then proceeded to grab her and he hit
her he hit her in the head with a hammer. Peter hit Marcella up
to eight times with the hammer. Marcella fell to the ground and pretended to
be unconscious. She said that Peter stood over her and masturbated. Then when
he was done, he put five pounds in her hand. After she thought
Peter left, Marcella crawled to a phone booth and called herself an ambulance.
Marcella then hid in the phone booth while Peter drove up and down looking for
her. So, oh, my god, walked away from her towards her
car, towards his car. Sorry, And then she took the opportunity and
like crawled to a phone booth nearby. And then from what I gathered,
Peter was like going to the car to like get a knife or something,
and when he turned back around, she was gone. And so then he
was driving up and down the area to see if he could spot her,
and she was just in the phone booth waiting on the ambulance to come to
her after being hit in the head eight times with a hammer. Oh my
god, that's making my step go her go Marcella, you fucking badass bitch.
That is so cool, Like were cool? She Marcella was four months
pregnant, and she sadly lost her baby. Sella was able to give police
a clear description of Peter. Police, however, do not link her attack
to the murders. It wasn't until Peter was arrested later on and he admits
to the attack that Peter realized that police realized that he was responsible for this.
On February fifth, nineteen seventy seven, Peter saw twenty eight year old
Irene Richardson, who was a sex worker. I'm just nothing that matters.
But he accuses a lot of women of being sex workers when they're not,
and they're like, no, he's just using it as an excuse now that
he has like the best moral judgment, when in reality, he just hates
women and he just wants to inflict as much pain as he possibly can,
so he's going to be like, oh, you're a sex worker, so
you're worthless, even though it's absolutely not true, but that's just his reasoning.
He offered her money and she accepted. Peter drove her to a park.
Irene told Peter she needed to go to the back room, and she
got out of the car and went behind a bush. While there, with
her back towards the car. Peter snuck up behind her and hit her on
the head with a hammer. Peter hit Irene on the head so hard that
her skull broke into her brain. He then proceeded to stab her. The
next morning, a man was out for a jog when he saw Irene lying
in the middle of the park. He thought that maybe she had passed out
and needed help, but he seemed discovered that she wasn't cut dead. The
man called the police and they immediately connected Irene's murder to the other murders.
Police found tire marks at the scene. However, they matched up to one
hundred thousand vehicles in the Yorkshire area over a five month period. Police check
eighty thousand cars to the tire marks, like they question eighty thousand owners.
They have twenty thousand cars left to check and police decide that this is taking
up too much time. They're going to stop doing that. In the twenty
thou names that they had left to question was Peter Sutcliffe. Ah, you
were so close, guys, you were so close. This is like an
ongoing peam in the investigation. The lead detective on the cars, James Hobson,
believed that the murders and the attacks were committed by the same man.
He was like, look, listen, the murders are women who were hit
in the head with a hammer and then stabbed to death. The attacks are
women who are hit on the head with a hammer and then someone's interrupted him
stabbing them to death. I think they're the same. That's pretty much what
the rest of the police force say. They're like, you're talking about your
ass. Fuck out of here. Make it make sense. I can't.
Sex workers in the area were at we're on edge, but sadly they had
families to support, and they had bills to pay and kids to feed and
clothed, and so they had no other option but to just continue to work.
On April twenty third, nineteen seventy seven, Peter was driving around when
he saw thirty two year old Patricia Tina Atkinson. Patricia was a sex worker
trying to make ends neat Peter watched Patricia's stagger up the road as she had
been drinking. He offered her a lift and she accepted. Patricia then offered
Peter sex work and he accepted, and they went to her apartment. While
Patricia closed the curtains. Peter hung up his coat and took out the hammer
he had been hiding. Patricia sat on her bed to take off her coat,
and the second she turned her back to him, Peter hid her over
the head with the hammer. Patricia fell to the floor and Peter hit her
on the head and in the face four times. He then picked Patricia up
off the floor and placed her on the bed. He then stabbed Patricia six
times in the stomach with a chisel before throwing the blankets over her and leaving
the apartment. A chisel, Yeah, that's like even more of kind more
flat wide surface. Yeah, it'd be even like more so a flat white
surface than the screw driver. So he's like, it's like he's getting angrier,
he's more rage as this is going on. Yeah. At six thirty
the next evening, Patricia's friend went to her apartment to hang out, and
when she didn't answer the door, he opened the door like he got at
like the spare key. Because they were best friends, he knew where she
hid it. He opened the door to quote, a chilling silence is what
he said. He then found Patricia lying on her bed in a pool of
blood. There was also a pool of blood in the floor. He then
yelled for the building manager to call the police. It was determined that Patricia
was not sexually assaulted, and police also found a size seven bootprint on her
bed, which was what they found at Emily Jackson's crime scene, which led
them to link the murders, But they weren't originally going to link them because
up until this point he's been killing them in a field. M Yeah,
and this time he's gone into her home yeah and done it there and done
it there get twenty Yeah, And Patricia thought that, like she would be
safer because she was going to her home and she normally only saw like specific
clients, like she didn't really go see, like she wouldn't just pick up
like just anyone. But I believe it's her. I believe that one of
her regular clients she was supposed to go see he canceled, and so then
she went out drinking and then and then Peter offered her right home, and
she was kind of like, oh, well, I'm down money, so
I might as well try and make some and yeah. On June twenty sixth,
nineteen seventy seven, Peter had viewed a house with Sonia and they decided
that it was their dream home. He then dropped Sonya off at work and
he went out drinking. At about two am, Peter was driving around when
he saw sixteen year old Jane McDonald walking alone. Jane had been out dancing
with her friends when she and a boy that she liked broke off from the
group to get some food after the nightclub. They had been talking for so
long that she ended up missing the last bus home, and her friend told
her to come with him that his sister would be able to drop her home,
that if they walked to his house that then the sister could drop her
home. But when they got to his house, the sister wasn't there,
and they waited for like an hour or so and there was still no sign
of the sister. So she was like, look like I have to get
home, so I'll just start walking like I'll be fine, yeah, and
that is when Peter saw her. Peter watched her for a few minutes before
parking his car at a hotel. He took his hammer and a kitchen knife
and he followed Jane on foot. Peter snook up behind her and hit her
over the head with a hammer. Jane immediately fell to the ground. He
dragged her into the nearby park and then proceeded to stab her several times in
the same wound in her chest. Assuming that Jane was dead, he left
her. Jane was still alive and would lay there helpless, alone and dying.
Thank God. At about nine forty five am the next morning, two
kids found Jane's body by the wall on their way to play in the park.
The children, that would just affect you for life again. And there's
a lot of kids because the milkman had a ten year old brother as well.
Yeah, Jane's murder gained global news coverage as she was only sixteen,
and up until this point he had been quote murdering sex workers. He will
He does later go on to say that he just assumed that Jane was a
sex worker because she was walking in a known spot and he didn't realize he
didn't realize until he was quote already attacking her well, that she was not
a sex sex Yeah, so he's claiming that she was walking in a known
area where sex workers worked, that they would walk along this road all night
to pick up clients. So when he saw her, he just assumed she
was a sex worker, And it wasn't until he'd already begun attacking her that
he copped that she was young. But he went ahead and he killed her
anyway, So right, Yeah, Jane's father had to identify her body,
which I can only imagine as heartbreaking. The murder of Jane became international news,
and she was mentioned as an innocent victim because she wasn't a sex worker.
All of these women, first of all, were innocent, but she
was. She didn't she she hadn't even been given a chance yet, she
was only sixteen. The public also began to get angry that the police still
had no leads in this case. The police then decided that they were going
to start a task force of three hundred and four officers. Oh talk about
overcompensation. Oh if this is not the only task force, it gets out
of hand, and this is why they don't solve it. So what they
end up doing is they started up this original task force. It's like three
hundred and four officers that are like, yeah, we're going to solve this
crime. And then like say in like leads, right, I can't remember
where this is, but I'm just and then he goes knee tax in Bradford.
So then they set up a task force in Bradford, and then he
goes and knee attacks in like Manchester, and then they go and they set
up a task force in Manchester. And then they go and they set up
another task force, and then they set up another task force. And then
none of these task forces are communicating with one and it's just gonna ask,
yeah, no, of course not no, they don't. They don't tell
each other anything, and you're like, maybe just have one task force for
the entire thing, but just you know, like if it's a Yorkshire ripper
case, then it just immediately goes to this one task force and it has
nothing to do with areas. I mean, y'all want to be united so
badly, I don't you fucking unite in your own country and stopped trying to
unite others. The police then got a profile of the killer and it was
nothing like Peter. The police were looking for a land Rover car which Peter
did not drive, and the lead detective had refused to publicly link Jane's murder
with the rest as she wasn't a sex worker. So the officers are like,
no, this is clearly a Yorkshire ripper murder, and the like lead
investigator is like, no, but she's not a sex worker. She's only
sixteen. Mm, couldn't be it. So sorry, we never see a
change in demo ever, never ever, And they're like but it's clearly and
he's like no, no, no, no, not me. Before I
go any further, going to take a quick little ad break and I'm just
gonna go toilet. So the families of the other victims actually get quite upset
Yane being referred to as an innocent victim because they're like, well, like
my wife or my sister or my mother, like was innocent too, Like
what and like they understand that she's young and she's sixteen or whatever, but
they're like, but like my family member was also innocent, Like yeah,
because it's not enough that you lose your family member, you have to watch
their legacy be absolutely like like secured again and again in the paper and the
media. In the media, they're not talking about like how much of a
loving mother Wilma was. It's like, oh, no, she had alcoholism
and was a sex worker. Yeah, they're not. They're completely stripping them
of any sort of human points. Yeah, what I'm trying to say.
In July nineteen seventy seven, Peter and Sonia officially bought their dream home,
and on July ninth, nineteen seventy seven, Peter went out drinking with his
friend with his friends Ronald and David Berker in Bradford. After a night of
drinking, Peter dropped his friend's home and then he went out looking for a
victim. At around two am, he saw forty two year old Moreen Long
outside a nightclub. Peter offered her a write home and she accepted. Maureen
asked Peter to drop her off at her ex husband's apartment. According to Peter,
she asked him if he fancied her, and the pair agreed to get
to a more secluded place. However, this is just what Peter says,
so we don't know how true it is. Moren then got out of the
car to go pee behind a bush on an embankment with her back to Peter.
He snuck up behind her and he hit and he hit her on the
head with a hammer. Peter then dragged her to a waiste disposal sight.
He then hit Maureen again with the hammer. He then pulled up her dress
and stabbed her five times. In the torso. Peter then made long incisions
from her groin to her sternum. He then flipped Maureen and stabbed her a
further four times in the back. Peter then dragged her body to the darker
side of the Waiste disposal and put a dirty old mattress on top of her.
As Peter left the Waiste disposal, he left, he fell and landed
on a broken porcelain sink. He left behind a bloody partial handprint. A
night freshman mhm. A night watchman had seen Peter drive away in his white
Corsair. However, he mistook it for a Quartina, which I'm not gonna
lie, right, I don't know my carney, no me neither, Like
whenever I get a bolt here, just like uber, I'm I'm looking at
the license plate. I have no fucking idea what car you drive at Yeah,
so I'm not even going to pretend like I know what the difference between
those two cars is, but there is a difference. The next morning,
at about eight thirty am, two women walking past the waste disposal heard what
they thought was a baby crying. It was Maureen crying for help. Oh
my god, Maureen was brought to hospital, where she survived. What Peter
didn't realize was that when he put the mattress on top of her to try
hide her body, that helped like put pressure on her wounds. Oh my
god, how that's so. I don't want to say lucky, but yeah,
it's crazy. How that how that happened? Maureen was sorry. Maureene
didn't remember much about her attack, but she was able to give some sort
of description of Peter to police. Police were now looking for a white Cortina,
which is there still the wrong car, but it's closer than a land
Rover and a man with light brown shoulder length hair in his mid to late
thirties. Peter then decided to sell his white Cosair and he bought a red
Courser Cosair to try and to try further himself from the description a little m
I mean, it's the same car, but it's just instead of white,
it's new head. On October first, nineteen seventy seven, Peter drove to
Manchester to the Red Light District to look for a victim. He saw twenty
year old Jean Jordan. He asked her if she was in business, and
she agreed. They drove to a cemetery and agreed to have sex for five
pounds on the grass. As Jean walked towards the grass, Peter snuck up
behind her and hit her thirteen times with a hammer in the head. Peter
then stabbed her multiple times before headlights of a car scared him off. Whilst
driving home, Peter realized the five pounds he had paid Jean was a brand
new five pound note. There wouldn't have been many of those because it was
just released, and they would be able to connect him to the crime through
this five pound note. And he reads, He's like, shit, I
left that behind and that's going to have significance because it's a new five pound
note. They like changed the picture of the queen or something the on us.
So he was like, oh no, bro h. And it had
come from his paypacket. So what police were going to be able to do,
and what they were able to do, is they find out what bank
it has come from. They're able then to find out where this bank paid
it too, which would be the company that Peter is working for, and
then they wouldn't obviously be able to tell what paypacket it went into, but
they would be able then to interview all the workers and you know, yeah,
yeah. So Peter decided that he wasn't going to go back and find
it at the risk of being caught, and thought that he would just wait
it out. Now, he attacks and kills Jean on October first. On
October ninth, nineteen seventy seven, Peter in Sonia through a housewarming party.
Peter offered to drop his friend's home after the party, and then he drove
up to Jean's body. She had still not been found. Peter could not
find Jean's purse, which had the five pounds in it, and in a
rage, Peter dragged Jean's body out of its hiding spot, ripped her clothes,
and stabbed her torso a couple of scabbed her. Yeah, he stabbed
her corpse a couple of times. He then slashed her chest and her stomach
over twenty times. He then tried to remove her head so she couldn't be
identified and make sure it looked less like a ripper killing. However, he
couldn't get her head off, so he gave up and went home, opening
her out in the open like that. Oh my god, that poor woman.
Even after death, she wasn't left alone. Nope. The next morning,
October tenth, a worker who was there to like work on the garden
and so the area that he killed her was beside a graveyard. So a
worker came to like tidy up the garden and to tidy up the graveyard found
Jean's body. Police immediately could tell that this was a ripper killing, and
it was all over the news, so he tried to not make it look
like a ripper killing, but in Dosau made it even more evident that it
was a ripper killing. Jean's husband knew it was his wife by the description
and told police that he never reported her missing because she often went to Scotland
to see family for days at a time, so it wasn't unheard of that
he wouldn't hear from her for a couple of days, okay, which I
mean, I guess okay, you know, like yeah, it's not like
they had mobile phone, so you're just texting each other and being like,
hey, I'm just going away for a couple of days. I'm sure,
so oh, she'll call me when she gets there. He just assumed that
she had told him and he'd forgotten. He was just like, I just
like she does it so regularly that I just assumed I just like forgot she
told me and was like, oh, she'll be home in a couple of
days time. But then when the description of the body found in the park
was on the news, he was like, oh shit, that's my wife.
Five days later, someone found Jean's purse with Peter's five pounds inside.
Police were able to trace it to the bank, and then they traced it
to where Peter worked, and police interviewed over five thousand people, Peter being
one. However, he had an alibi. He was having a housewarming party
that night, so there's no way that he had killed somebody because he dropped
his friend's home and then went home. Guy, guys, there's like plenty,
plenty of time in an evening, you know. H On December fourteenth,
nineteen seventy seven, Peter drove past twenty five year old Marylyn Moore.
Marlyn was a sex worker who was walking home from a friend's house. Peter
drove passed her twice before pulling over. He called her over and introduced himself
as Dave. He asked if she wanted business, and she agreed. He
paid her five pounds and then they got into his car and drove to a
quiet spot. When they pulled over, Peter suggested that they get into the
back of the car instead of getting out. Marlin agreed, but notice that
her door was locked, so Peter got out and he walked around to open
her door for her, and as he did, he hit her over the
head with a hammer. Marlin screamed as she fell out of the car.
She tried to stay up by holding onto Peter's trousers, but he just continued
to hit her over the head with the hammer. Marlin's screams caused a nearby
dog to start barking, and this made Peter panic about being caught, so
he ran away. Peter thought Marlin would die because he had hit her over
the head so many times. However, after he ran away, Marlin got
the strength to get up and she ran towards the road. A couple were
driving past and saw her covered in blood and crying, so they pulled over
and called nine one one for her or I don't know is it nine one
one in America or in England? Yeah? Please, I think I think
if you call it no matter where you are, I think it will connect
you to an emergency service. You know what I mean when I say nine
one, Yeah, in Ireland it's one one two M. Because we had
the Randy phones, so it was faster. It's not why. I'm pretty
sure someone told I can't remember someone told me that before. I always thought
that about the Randy phones, Like, if you're calling nine one one,
it's not not going to take for fucking ever. Yeah, we're an OL
and just go one, one two M. Anyways, Marlin then gave a
description of Peter and was able to tell police that he drove from a Roon
colored car. However, they were now looking for somebody named Dave or David,
so they were you know, they had interviewed Peter, but they were
looking for a Dave and David. M hmm. Yeah. On January twenty
first, nineteen seventy eight, Peter was helping his parents move into their new
home. When he left, he went looking for a victim, and this
is when he saw on twenty one year old Yvonne Pearson. Yvonne was out
working the streets when Peter tried to hit on her with his car. No,
sorry, he tried to hit her with his car. What, Yeah,
that's that's a whole new what Peter waters, he has like a disgusting
amount of confidence at this stage, like for all of the times that he's
been interrupted, that he's done this in fields, like in public and never
been caught. Oh, he's just dead here hitting people with his fucking car.
It gets better. He then came to a stud a sudden stop,
and he rolled down his window and he began apologize in claiming that he didn't
even see her and he's so so sorry. Are you okay? Do you
need to lift home? And Yvonne just replied, quote, just good timing.
You can put it down to face, oh, Vaughan. Oh.
Yvonne then got into Peter's car and they agreed on five pounds in exchange for
some sex, and then drove to a quiet area. Peter suggested that they
get into the backseat of the car, and while Yvonne wasn't looking, he
took out his hammer and he hit her on the head. Peter then dragged
Yvonne to an old, dirty sofa that was beside them where he had pulled
up. Another car pulled up beside him and there was a couple in it.
Yvonne was moaning from being hit with the hammer and in order to make
her quiet, Peter began stuffing couch the like couch, stuffing down her throat,
oh my god, and he held her nose. The car eventually left
because like to be fair to that other car. First of all, it's
dark. Second of all, if you just see a couple sitting on a
dirty old couch, you're just going to assume it's like sex work happening or
you know, yeah, and he's probably like on top of very like you,
and yeah, you're not thinking, oh, a woman is being killed.
They're in knocking, they're having sex. Yes. Peter then began to
kick Yvonne in the head and the body. He then jumped on her chest
until her ribs cracked. Yvonne had two children and there was a babysitter the
night that Yvonne went out. When she never returned home, the babysitter immediately
reported her missing, as she always came home. Yvonne's body would not be
found until March twenty sixth, nineteen seventy eight, and she was killed when
in January January twenty first fuck someone walking past the disposal site sawn arm sticking
out from the couch, and that's how they found her corpse. The police
didn't originally link the murder to the Ripper case as it was so different.
A newspaper with the date February twenty first on it was placed under Yvonne's arm,
which which was a month after she was murdered. However, Peter denies
returning to the scene of any of his victims. We know that to be
a lie because he returned to Jean Jordan's body exactly, and he returned to
be even more violent. He's a sick guy, so it wouldn't surprise me
if he went back to try and do something to alterate the scene. So
like he claims that like he didn't go to any he didn't return to any
sites, and that it wasn't him that put the newspaper under Yvonne's arm,
but like it more than likely was him. On January thirty first, nineteen
seventy eight, Peter was out looking for a victim when he came across eighteen
year old Helen Ripke. Peter picked Helen up in the Red Light district and
drove to a secluded place near the railway. He suggested that they get into
the back of the car, and she agreed. As he went to hit
her on the head, two men started walking past the car, so Peter
had to stop his plan. When the men left, though, Peter just
continued on with his plan and hit Helen in the head with the hammer.
Peter then said he took a break before going back and dragging Helen's body to
a woodyard. He then began stabbing her several times. Peter then became a
raised at the thought of almost getting caught, so he sexually assaulted Helen once
he had finished stabbing her. However, the medical examiner later said that there
was no evidence that Helen was assaulted like sexually. So it is the being
out in the open and they're really getting caught that is doing it for him.
Well, so like he's saying, oh, I sexually assaulted her,
but the medical examiner is like, there's no evidence to suggest that at all.
M hmm. I wonder if he had trouble Maybe that's why he hated
women so much. I wonder if he had trouble like having sex, like
like, yeah, become incompetent. Is that no? Not incompetent? Not?
Because the like medical examiner is like, not, only was there no
evidence that she was assaulted sexually. There's no evidence of sexual intercourse at all.
M The next day, people were arriving for work at the woodyard and
they saw the ground was soaked in blood and they saw torn women's clothes.
But they ignored that. Oh okay, they said that, seeing as sex
workers were often frequent on the yard at night, it was just no cause
for concern. They were like, it's just just sex workers blood, Like,
it's fine, it's fine, it's fine. Helen's body was then found
two days later. Her body had been found between two stocks of wood.
Police were seriously struggling to solve the case, and even reached out to the
public, offering a reward of five thousand pounds to anyone with information that would
lead to an arrest. Nothing of note really came forward, And then this
was when police would start receiving letters from Jack the Ripper, Jack the Ripper
from Like what the eighteen hundreds place? It is not Peter sending these letters.
Oh so it's just some other ziggo looking to take credit. What did
these weirdos always come crawling out of the woodwork? Honestly, I know,
and I think that is where I will leave it. You guys, oh,
leave it on a cliffhanger with Jack the Ripper. Yeah, I leave
it there, you guys, because the liffhanger. Those poor women, Like
I know, I didn't talk much throught that because it was like trying to
process. It's a lot of information, it's a lot of it's a lot
of a compression and anger. Yeah, he is so angry, and I'm
genuinely starting to think that it's because he can't get it up and that's why
he's trying about sexually assaulting these women. I know he's actually assaulted at least
one, and I know he's masturbating over the bodies. But maybe it's because
they're dead they can't judge or laugh at him. And I don't lie.
I never thought of it like that, Like, I never thought of it
in that way that maybe it's because he has incompetence. Oh, now that
you say it, I'm like, it makes the most sense. And don't
they say as well, that's stabbing is like another it's it's another type of
penetration, Like that's yeah, because they struggle to penetrate they stabbed because yeah,
yeah, um, that's very very possible. And it gets pretty wild
from here on out and the police just when I told you that they question
When I told you that they questioned m. Peter, that's not the only
time that they questioned him again. They go on to question him like another
like ten times, and then he's also a person of interest at least eighteen
times. Or he's like, so he's interviewed by police officially like ten times
or something like that, and then he's like in like the suspect pool like
a further like eighteen times. What if somebody is coming up that much on
your radar, Like, mmmm, maybe it's time to do a bit more
than questioning, you know, maybe maybe follow him for a while, see
what he gets up to in his spare time. And then we will see
Trevor birdsall his redemption arc, his redemption It's a coming. Don't forget about
Trevor, Or do I don't really really care. I mean he still does.
Let it go on for like fucking six years or some shit. Yeah,
Trevor, come on, I'm rooting for you. I'm so If you
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