1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:05,320 Golf Smarter number three hundred and forty one, published on July eleven, twenty 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:11,800 twelve. Welcome to Golf Smarter Mulligans, your second chance to gain insight and 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:18,879 advice from the best instructors featured on the Golf Smarter podcast. Great Golf Instruction 4 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:25,719 Never gets old. Our interview library features hundreds of hours of game improvement conversations 5 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:30,160 like this that are no longer available in any podcast app. You just have 6 00:00:30,239 --> 00:00:36,079 to understand that every day stands on its own merits. Why it happens that 7 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:40,560 someday you have total control over your game, and other days you can't do 8 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,240 anything right. Well, those days when you can't do anything right, you 9 00:00:44,359 --> 00:00:47,280 basically want to cut your losses. You, Hey, this is going to 10 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,640 be one of the tough days. All I can do is play one shot 11 00:00:50,679 --> 00:00:55,399 at the time and don't get upset with my shot. If you don't do 12 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,640 that, you're going to get really frustrated. You're going to continue to push 13 00:00:58,679 --> 00:01:02,600 your chemistry to even love levels. Let's just say a golfer who can shoot 14 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,560 in the eighties, he's going to get so frustrated he's going to end up 15 00:01:04,599 --> 00:01:07,920 coming in shooting in the hundreds. Whereas if people had kept his cool, 16 00:01:08,159 --> 00:01:11,359 he would have least come in at the nineties. And you can say, 17 00:01:11,359 --> 00:01:15,200 well, gee goes make it a difference. I show an OIDI instead of 18 00:01:15,239 --> 00:01:18,319 an eighty, Hey, nineties a lot better than a hundred. You have 19 00:01:18,359 --> 00:01:27,879 to put it into perspective. The Mental Keys to Improve your Golf with Michael 20 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:34,959 Anthony. This is Golf Smarter sharing tips and insights from golfers and golf professionals 21 00:01:36,079 --> 00:01:40,000 to help lower your score. It's worked for your host, Fred Green. 22 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,799 It's so nice for me to say, welcome back to Golf Smarter. Michael. 23 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,239 It's good to be back. I tell you I missed you. Oh 24 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,319 thank you boy. You know. And if anybody is not familiar with Michael 25 00:01:53,359 --> 00:01:59,920 Anthony's work on the Mental Keys to Improve your Golf Michael, go check out 26 00:02:00,239 --> 00:02:04,840 Smarter Tips in iTunes. Michael and I recorded for a full year, and 27 00:02:04,879 --> 00:02:09,759 he put out fifty six episodes every single week for a full year. That 28 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:15,000 I'm telling you, if you went back today and started at his first and 29 00:02:15,039 --> 00:02:19,159 went all the way through and all the other tips as well, you are 30 00:02:19,199 --> 00:02:25,199 going to be a more efficient golfer. But I pause because I want to 31 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:30,120 say there's more to it than golf. It's life itself and how you approach 32 00:02:30,199 --> 00:02:34,039 things. Because Michael's work is so good, and I just am really happy 33 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,800 to have you back, to take it from ground one and build it back 34 00:02:37,879 --> 00:02:42,800 up. Okay, Fred, thank you for that wonderful introduction. I've been, 35 00:02:43,199 --> 00:02:46,360 you know, out there, just working away, working away, and 36 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,280 I've since we last talked. I don't know how many more thousands of golfers 37 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,800 that I helped lower their score. And it ranges, you know, from 38 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,759 guys that are scratch golfers to people that never have broken one hundred. Matter 39 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,840 of fact, if you could, I'm a web I just put a new 40 00:03:00,879 --> 00:03:04,719 testimony go up there, and he says, Michael, he says, I've 41 00:03:04,719 --> 00:03:07,560 been playing golf since I've been eighteen years old. He says, now I'm 42 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:12,479 fifty seven years old. He says, I never broke a hundred during that 43 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,520 period of time. Wait wait, wait, wait wait, this guy's been 44 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:20,319 playing golf for almost fifty years, let's call it forty years, and he's 45 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,719 never broken a hundred, never broke a hundred. So why did he keep 46 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:28,680 going? I guess the love of the game, the frustration. Oh my 47 00:03:28,759 --> 00:03:31,240 god, Well, good for him. And with the work that he did 48 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:35,879 on your stuff, Well what he did, He says, I'm honored to 49 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,960 tell you that I've shot in eighty nine today. Wow. He goes from 50 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:44,159 never breaking a hundred to an eighty nine. He says, I couldn't believe 51 00:03:44,159 --> 00:03:46,800 in my wilders dreams that I could read a book and see those results. 52 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:53,039 Unbelievable. Well, I'm I'm absolutely convinced. I think that's part of the 53 00:03:53,039 --> 00:03:58,719 reason why the name Golf Smarter means more than to me than just the show, 54 00:03:58,759 --> 00:04:04,000 that it is a of approaching the whole game, and that from the 55 00:04:04,199 --> 00:04:08,719 very first episode I ever did of Golf Smarter, I had a firm belief 56 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:14,240 and I've, luckily I've had this substantiated by so many instructors that if you 57 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,519 have a strong mental game and you understand strategy, you're going to lower your 58 00:04:17,519 --> 00:04:25,040 scores. And you could you can lower your score almost instantly when you understand 59 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:29,399 what you're trying to accomplish with the mental game. And let me kind of 60 00:04:29,399 --> 00:04:32,680 clue the audience in, Yeah, let's let's build this up. Let's please 61 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,000 give us the background of how you approach this. Well, I'm just gonna 62 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:41,600 throw the whole enchalada out there right now, it's very quick. The whole 63 00:04:41,639 --> 00:04:46,240 goal of the mental game is to create a mental state that will optimize the 64 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,680 chemistry of the brain that will allow you to perform in the zone at your 65 00:04:50,759 --> 00:04:56,879 highest level of mechanical proficiency. And the whole key is the chemistry of the 66 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,560 brain. Very few people are focusing in on the on the mystery of the 67 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,600 brain, and it's becoming common knowledge nowadays that you know as the chemistry changes, 68 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:10,079 your performance changes as you're and when people don't realize is that for every 69 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,240 thought you have, your thought has two components, facts and emotions. When 70 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,480 you play around the golf, you've experienced many, many, many facts. 71 00:05:17,759 --> 00:05:20,800 Now, the way the brain is set up, it's programmed to repeat, 72 00:05:20,879 --> 00:05:25,839 it's passed. And so anytime you had a fact while you were playing, 73 00:05:26,399 --> 00:05:30,199 and if you got angrier or if you had fear with your negative emotions, 74 00:05:30,439 --> 00:05:34,319 you lower your chemistry, take away from your ability to perform. Now put 75 00:05:34,319 --> 00:05:42,639 this into context, imagine the golfer playing around a GoF and he faces water. 76 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,279 Water is nothing more than a fact. Now if he's attached to emotion, 77 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,079 oh my god, I'm going to hit it into the water now, 78 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,079 he lowered his chemistry. He had fear of hitting into the water. He's 79 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:56,600 going to reach the probability of hitting it into the water. Now once he 80 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,759 hits it into the water, now he's angry with himself because he hit it 81 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,040 into the water angers another negative effect. So when he goes to hit his 82 00:06:04,079 --> 00:06:09,839 next shot, you know his chemistry is even lower. And so it's a 83 00:06:09,879 --> 00:06:14,160 cycle downward than people wonder, well, gee, it's such a frustrating game. 84 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,199 It's because you're not controlling your emotions. You're letting your emotions control you 85 00:06:18,199 --> 00:06:24,160 out and it controls the chemistry, which affects your performance. Well. And 86 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:30,040 I frequently will laugh under my breath when people are like, oh god, 87 00:06:30,959 --> 00:06:35,199 I always hit it in the water here. And so you know, as 88 00:06:35,199 --> 00:06:38,120 he steps up to the ball, he goes, don't hit it in the 89 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:42,199 water. And then of course he you know, he's thinking too much about 90 00:06:42,199 --> 00:06:43,720 it, and he hits it in the water. And I said, you 91 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,399 realize that the last three words you said to yourself were hit it in the 92 00:06:46,439 --> 00:06:51,199 water, or four words hit it in The five words hit it in the 93 00:06:51,199 --> 00:06:54,560 water went no, I said, don't hit it in the water. I 94 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:59,680 know you bring it in here. The don't said, hit it into the 95 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,399 water and let me get throughout a couple more pieces, you know, Fred, 96 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:08,560 So you know it's as I mentioned before, the key is to become 97 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,639 aware that your emotions affect the chemistry of the brain, which definitely affects your 98 00:07:12,639 --> 00:07:15,040 performance, because in sports, you can't deny that when you're negative, you 99 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,680 don't play as well as when you're positive. As a matter of fact, 100 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,279 when you're playing at your best, you're not even thinking. It's all in 101 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:26,040 the flow state. You know, all of the zone. Now, the 102 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:31,560 reason it's so hard to change your past programming is that the brain starts working 103 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:36,040 at a very early age. Six months after conception. Your brain starts recording 104 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:41,360 everything that goes on around you while you're in your mother's womb, when you 105 00:07:41,439 --> 00:07:45,199 come out into this world, through your entire life right up to this present 106 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,240 conversation we're having that the golfers are listening to being recorded by the brain. 107 00:07:49,759 --> 00:07:54,759 And the importance of the recording of the brain is that it's your database. 108 00:07:54,959 --> 00:07:58,839 Whenever you go to make a decision of what to do, to bring quickly 109 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,319 reviews what is what you've done in your past, And I call it your 110 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,199 tape going back in the old days when they had tape recorders. Whatever is 111 00:08:05,279 --> 00:08:09,519 on that tape is going to be played back. And so if you have 112 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,639 a history of seeing water and having fear, that's going to play back. 113 00:08:13,839 --> 00:08:16,079 If you hit it in the water, you have a history of being anger, 114 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,519 that's going to play it back. And so we're talking about becoming aware 115 00:08:20,879 --> 00:08:24,360 of what is on your tape, because your tape has all your positive and 116 00:08:24,399 --> 00:08:26,879 all your negatives, and your tape doesn't care what you do. It just 117 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:31,759 wants you to repeat what you've done. Does that makes sense rad to me? 118 00:08:31,879 --> 00:08:35,320 It does, It always has. That's why I've enjoyed speaking to you 119 00:08:35,399 --> 00:08:39,360 so much. Yeah, and you sit there and it's such a simple thing. 120 00:08:39,399 --> 00:08:48,159 You can change your performance almost overnight just primarily reducing the amount of negative 121 00:08:48,159 --> 00:08:52,360 emotions that you have. And sometimes after around the golf its your emotion's got 122 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:58,000 a hold of you. You have a chance to review what happened that day, 123 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,519 and your brain is sitting there looking at at it, and all of 124 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,159 a sudden, hey, you're reviewing what it's going on. And so you 125 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,759 take a look at all of those shots where you had, you know, 126 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,080 fear or where you had anger, where you had frustrations, where you had 127 00:09:09,159 --> 00:09:11,440 doubt, and you talk to yourself, Hey, tape, next time I 128 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,039 play around of golf, when I come to the water, I'm not going 129 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:16,960 to think about the outcome. I'm just going to take a couple of deep 130 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:22,039 breaths x heal, hit the ball and see what happened. And the tape 131 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,080 is saying, what the heck's he doing? He's telling me how to behave 132 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,440 the next time I play. And if you do this over and over and 133 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,960 over, what you're doing is you're preprogramming your brain your tape, because when 134 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,159 you go to sleep at night, your brain has to review what did I 135 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,799 do in the morning between waking up and going to sleep, Because while you're 136 00:09:39,879 --> 00:09:45,879 sleeping, your brain is readjusting everything you've done in relationship to your past, 137 00:09:46,159 --> 00:09:48,120 so I can decide how to behave when you wake up in the morning. 138 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,600 So Whila, The best time to reprogram and improve your mental game is while 139 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:58,679 you're sleeping. The easy way to change your game is to do it just 140 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,519 before you go to sleep it's been five minutes, and tell your brain how 141 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,120 you want to behave, and while you're sleeping, it will be reprogramming itself 142 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:13,120 to respond. But that that requires work. I mean, it's not like 143 00:10:13,159 --> 00:10:15,519 you can just do this once and you're gonna wake up and everything's better, 144 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,159 right. This is an ongoing process, sure, because the tape wants to 145 00:10:18,159 --> 00:10:22,279 do what you've done in the past. You know, you've you've done that 146 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,919 for three days in a row and then you stop for one day. At 147 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,519 very far, we're going back to the old way. It's going to take 148 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:31,080 your right back to where you were. So if you're not constantly monitoring your 149 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,919 thoughts and the most and there's no way you're going to be able to reprogram 150 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,120 the tape because the tape will take a look at what you've just done and 151 00:10:39,159 --> 00:10:41,519 what you've done in the past, and if you do only put one percent 152 00:10:41,519 --> 00:10:45,039 of work in the present, it's going to use that ninety nine percent of 153 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,480 the past to bring you back to where you were. And so there's you 154 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,159 know, I always say, first you work, then you get paid. 155 00:10:54,519 --> 00:10:58,960 Really is that the way it's supposed to work. And one of the whole 156 00:10:58,039 --> 00:11:01,519 keys is desire. I'll talk about people. I said, hey, if 157 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,919 you don't have a strong desire, you're kidding yourself. And they said, 158 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,200 oh, I have a desire to lower my score and that's fine, Well, 159 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:11,960 how much action are you taking? Uh, you know, that's just 160 00:11:11,039 --> 00:11:13,919 a wish. If you have a desire and you're not doing any work, 161 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:18,240 we're putting it in an action. You're just kidding yourself. And most golfers 162 00:11:18,279 --> 00:11:22,919 wish they could shoot lower scores, but they really don't have a strong desire. 163 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,039 People want, And I bet you there are people who are saying, 164 00:11:26,039 --> 00:11:30,039 of course I have the desire. I had one hundred balls three times a 165 00:11:30,039 --> 00:11:33,639 week. Well, just to think of all the opportunity you had to learn 166 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:39,320 a hundred different shots to learn what were my emotions during those hundred shots. 167 00:11:45,759 --> 00:11:48,799 They're doing it all on the range, and they're all doing it on a 168 00:11:48,799 --> 00:11:54,320 physical part, and that's you know, mostly if they're not even taking lessons, 169 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:58,759 they're just building If mescle memory is a fact or not, they're just 170 00:11:58,919 --> 00:12:03,799 repeating bad habits, repeating what's on the tape, because the tape is programmed 171 00:12:03,799 --> 00:12:07,200 to have you repeat the past. So you got to You've got several elements 172 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,879 we talked about. Now One, we talked about you have to have strong 173 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,440 desire to make you know, to do something different. Number two, you 174 00:12:13,519 --> 00:12:18,480 have to realize your program to repeat what is on your tape, your pass 175 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,360 and number three, all of those facts that are on your tape. If 176 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,360 you've attached negative emotions to it, you've lowered your chemistry, taken away from 177 00:12:26,399 --> 00:12:31,600 your ability to perform. Now let's throw another key out there. Goals. 178 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,159 There are two types of goals. There's an outcome goal and then there's the 179 00:12:35,279 --> 00:12:39,360 process goal. And people say, well, what's the difference. So let's 180 00:12:39,399 --> 00:12:43,679 make it real simple. If you want to go across the streets, that's 181 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,559 a desired outcome. So how do you do it. Well, you point 182 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:50,080 yourself in the right direction, you look both ways to make sure there's no 183 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,279 traffic, and then you take one step at the time until you make it 184 00:12:52,279 --> 00:12:56,000 across the street. So taking one step at the time is the process. 185 00:12:56,399 --> 00:13:00,559 Now, guess what, if you don't make those steps, will you ever 186 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:05,360 make it across the street. But if you do both make those steps, 187 00:13:05,399 --> 00:13:09,159 will you make it across the street? Yes? So people say that's not 188 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:13,639 bring science. Ila said, well, love when I work with an athlete, 189 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,799 especially I worked with the Olympians that went on to build the silver medals 190 00:13:16,799 --> 00:13:20,320 in the Olympics, where you get the golfers that want to lower their score 191 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,039 and you tell them, okay, first goal is you want to win a 192 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,000 gold medal only one in the world. Okay, you want to be the 193 00:13:26,039 --> 00:13:30,080 best golfer in the world. You want to win a tournament, you want 194 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,919 to lower your handicap. These are all outcomes. Now how do you do 195 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:37,679 it? Well, you do it by doing the process. When it comes 196 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:43,559 to golf, first, it's a very highly perfitched mechanical skill. You got 197 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:48,080 to take lessons to find to get the proper mechanics. So you've got to 198 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,559 do the mechanics properly. And if you're overweight and out of shape, you 199 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,080 know that's going to take away from your ability to perform. So you got 200 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:58,120 to start getting into physical shape, you know, exercising to bring it down. 201 00:13:58,639 --> 00:14:01,759 And then the next thing is strategy. Are you going to take shots 202 00:14:01,759 --> 00:14:07,039 that have a low probability or high probability depending upon your mechanical proficiency. So 203 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:11,000 you've got three different things already, and then number four is the mental game. 204 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:16,399 You've got to start reducing your negative emotions and increasing the positives. Now, 205 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,879 those four components are the process. Now guess what if you can do 206 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:28,720 the process better than anybody else who's going to win you. Okay, so 207 00:14:28,759 --> 00:14:33,559 why worry about winning or losing? All you want to do, Put all 208 00:14:33,559 --> 00:14:37,799 your attentionent on focusing on the process. Now. The good thing about this 209 00:14:37,879 --> 00:14:43,639 because you've hear everybody talk about forget about the outcome, get into the process. 210 00:14:43,679 --> 00:14:48,279 But they don't tell you why. Because the whole key is if you're 211 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:54,320 totally involved in the present and you're not concerned about the outcome, because you 212 00:14:54,399 --> 00:14:56,480 figure, why bother, I'm just worried about improved, because if I improve, 213 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:01,080 I'm going to win. Now. Back in the old days, the 214 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:05,639 samurai warrior days, they were highly skilled in martial arts and they were trained 215 00:15:05,879 --> 00:15:09,960 to perform without concern about living or dying. Because as soon as you start 216 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:13,480 thinking about living or dying, you're you know, you're worrying about the outcome. 217 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,759 You're opening yourself up to the fear of getting hurt and boom, you 218 00:15:16,799 --> 00:15:20,879 know, there goes your performance. You're at the window. Now. Golf 219 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:26,559 is not life and death situation. But look at what's happening right now. 220 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:30,039 And I'm doing youtubes now. I don't know if I've told you this or 221 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,159 not. I've got a couple of in the can and if people you go 222 00:15:33,279 --> 00:15:37,519 to my website mental keys dot com, there's a little link to go to 223 00:15:37,559 --> 00:15:41,519 my my youtubes. And I'm kind of explaining this as I go along. 224 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,679 And the last one was about the tape and the one that I'll be doing 225 00:15:43,799 --> 00:15:48,200 within the next couple of days. It's all about outcome versus process, goal 226 00:15:48,679 --> 00:15:54,200 and to make it timely. Tiger Woods was one of my favorite models in 227 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,679 the past because he was such an example of everything going right in the world 228 00:15:58,679 --> 00:16:03,440 of golf. The last couple of years, he's had a couple of Hea 229 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:07,320 Cups and everybody's wondering he's going to get back up there, and he's been 230 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,279 working really hard when his mental game. Matter of fact, people actually he's 231 00:16:11,279 --> 00:16:15,200 working on his mechanics are saying he's spending too much time on the mechanics. 232 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,600 He should just get back into the game. And you look at his frustrations. 233 00:16:18,639 --> 00:16:22,440 He's still playing really well, but you know he's been throwing clubs, 234 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,000 spinning on the green, real bad behavior. And I look and I said, 235 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,519 oh my god, you guys so consumed, you know, with the 236 00:16:29,559 --> 00:16:33,519 outcome. And so I watched him play Sunday and he made that miracle shot 237 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,240 on sixteen. Yeah, and you're talking, you're referring, you know, 238 00:16:37,559 --> 00:16:40,799 I'm not sure exactly when this is going to be published, but we're referring 239 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:45,240 to the Memorial tournament when he made that miracle shot. So it wasn't this 240 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,519 so that Sunday, Yeah, on the Sunday of the memorial, will say 241 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,000 Sunday in the memorial, right, so you know, so now you know 242 00:16:52,039 --> 00:16:55,559 he won, and he will say, oh wow, is he going to 243 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,159 come back for the US So and we're kind of got to get this on 244 00:16:57,159 --> 00:17:04,200 the air soon to make it timely. So anyway I'm looking at right now, 245 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,160 who's going to win? Is his tape going to win? Or is 246 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:14,319 Tagger going to That's the component because his tape has it where when he is 247 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:19,359 concerned about the outcome and he misses his shot or two shots, all of 248 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:25,359 a sudden, you can see the anger coming in which takes him out of 249 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:30,359 the process. And so that's what I'm concerned about. We're not concerned. 250 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,720 I'm going to be watching, you know, during the open if he makes 251 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,079 a couple of bad shots, if his anger comes to the surface and he 252 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:41,680 can't get rid of it in a hurry, he doesn't have a prayer. 253 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:45,559 But if he can overcome and get back into the present, get back into 254 00:17:45,599 --> 00:17:48,559 the process, he's got a real good chance of being the old tagger Woods. 255 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,920 And so that's his battle. His battle is going to be with his 256 00:17:52,039 --> 00:17:53,880 tape. Is he's going to go back to the last two or three years 257 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,640 of being angry when he misses, where he's going to realize, hey, 258 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,880 I'm so good if I miss a shot out, who cares. Well, 259 00:18:00,279 --> 00:18:03,880 Let's forget about Tiger for a minute, because I think that that's a microcosm 260 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:10,839 of what's going on in general with golfers. And you can have, like 261 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:15,079 Tiger has displayed in the past, the most remarkable mental game and mental toughness 262 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:22,480 that ever has been considered. But what if things are just not and this 263 00:18:22,599 --> 00:18:26,480 is golf, right, what if things are just not going right that day? 264 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,839 And as much as you try to slow yourself down, to close your 265 00:18:30,839 --> 00:18:33,759 eyes, to take your breath, to visualize, whatever you need to do 266 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:38,880 to get yourself away from that, it continues to happen. And I know 267 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,519 this has happened to me. I know this has happened to everybody. How 268 00:18:41,519 --> 00:18:48,000 do you work around that? Okay, you have to understand that the tournament 269 00:18:48,079 --> 00:18:52,039 is four days, it's not one day. Well, I'm not talking about 270 00:18:52,079 --> 00:18:56,759 I'm talking about us. I'm talking about, you know, not the tournament 271 00:18:56,799 --> 00:19:00,000 players. I'm talking about the average golfer who is a golf smarter listener. 272 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:06,519 Tiger's not listening to this. So Tiger, you suck. I know he's 273 00:19:06,519 --> 00:19:11,160 not listening. You just you know, you just have to understand that every 274 00:19:11,279 --> 00:19:17,359 day stands on its own Meritskay. Why it happens that someday you can get 275 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:21,880 up in that ball and you have total control over over your game, and 276 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:26,519 other days you get up and you can't do anything right. Exactly, Okay, 277 00:19:26,559 --> 00:19:30,200 Now those on those days when you can't do anything right, you basically 278 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,720 want to cut your losses. You're gonna say, this is going to be 279 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,200 one of the tough days. All I can do is play one shot at 280 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:41,519 the time and don't get upset with with with my shots, because if you 281 00:19:41,559 --> 00:19:45,960 don't do that, you're going to get really frustrated. You're going to continue 282 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,839 to push your chemistry to even lower levels, and you'll, let's just say, 283 00:19:49,519 --> 00:19:52,279 a golfer who can shoot in the eighties, he's going to get so 284 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:56,160 frustrated. He's going to end up coming and shooting in the hundreds, whereas 285 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:00,119 if he would have kept his cool, he would have least have come in 286 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,720 at the nineties. And you can say, well, gee, you know, 287 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,480 doesn't make it a difference, So I shoot a ninety instead of an 288 00:20:06,519 --> 00:20:08,880 eighty. Hey, nineties a lot better than a hundred. You have to 289 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:15,200 put it into perspective. And you may say well because and then you start 290 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,960 taking a look at your handicap. Your handicapped isn't one day, It's all 291 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,759 the days added up, and then divide it. And so you have to 292 00:20:22,799 --> 00:20:25,319 start realizing, Okay, some days, if I'm shooting in the eighties, 293 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,839 I'm going to shoot nineties, and I'll shoot in the seventies and it'll come 294 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:32,440 out in the eighties. Or I'll shoot the high eighties in the low eighties, 295 00:20:32,599 --> 00:20:36,200 it'll eventually come out to so I'm shooting eighty five. You have to 296 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,640 get used to what is on your tape and your highs and your lows, 297 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,200 and play in that area. Otherwise, when you start shooting a high score, 298 00:20:42,519 --> 00:20:45,799 you're going to really start getting down on yourself. You lower your chemistry 299 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:51,519 much lower than it could be and your score is going to be much higher 300 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,640 than you could have come in with because, after all, you know, 301 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,200 if you're shooting eighty five, coming in with an eighty nine is not eighty 302 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:07,039 five, but it's a lot better than in ninety nine. And you also 303 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:11,119 have to accept the fact that golf, you know, for a recreational average 304 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,519 golfer, you can have a ten to fifteen stroke swing on any given day. 305 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,960 You have to accept that you're not going to get better every single round, 306 00:21:21,519 --> 00:21:25,839 don't you true. You have to understand, well, this is a 307 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,079 great example way back when I was like when I was younger, I grew 308 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,240 up in Baltimore, and Baltimore Orioles used to have great teams at that time. 309 00:21:32,319 --> 00:21:34,759 If you grew up there, how come you call Baltimore? I don't 310 00:21:34,759 --> 00:21:37,960 know. Isn't it supposed to be called Balmer Balmore? I guess I've an 311 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:42,599 ad on the West coast too long. Now it's Balmer Balmar. Well, 312 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:47,680 there was a Balmore, you know for those you know, the baseball players, 313 00:21:47,759 --> 00:21:49,599 Jim Palmer. He was a Hall of Famer pitch pitcher. Ye Earl 314 00:21:49,599 --> 00:21:55,160 Weaver was his manager at the time. Rook Robinson was playing third right yep, 315 00:21:55,319 --> 00:21:57,000 and Bogue Pale was on first. And you know why they called him 316 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:02,079 boog right? Well, do you not know that story? No? I 317 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,440 love these asides because I have a d D. But yeah, when his 318 00:22:04,599 --> 00:22:07,880 when he was growing up, his dad called him a little booger. Oh 319 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:15,200 wow, and so his nickname ended up being boog Boom. There's your baseball 320 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,359 trivia one on one for the day. Next. I'm sorry, I go 321 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,079 back to back ring, back when you were talking about the swings of the 322 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,359 highs and the lows of the average golfer. But here's a Hall of Famer. 323 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,119 And he knew when that old days, when he had his stuff and 324 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:30,119 when he didn't have his stuff, and when Earl Weaver had him penciled in, 325 00:22:30,319 --> 00:22:33,079 you're going to be pitching on Sunday. And when Sunday came and he 326 00:22:33,079 --> 00:22:34,240 said, oh, I'm not going to have my stuff today. He would 327 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,720 say, Earl, take me out. I don't want to pitch and said, 328 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,000 what do you mean your schedule? He says he's going to win my 329 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,119 stats. He said, I'm not going to pitch. And he used to 330 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:47,240 drive Earl Weaver crazy. Wow, well it was easy to drive Earl Weaver 331 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,799 crazy. Well, you know, can you imagine here was a Hall of 332 00:22:49,839 --> 00:22:53,440 Famer that knew that some days you would have it and some days he wouldn't. 333 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,359 That's fascinating. You know, the average golfer out there come off of 334 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,559 it. Some days you're going to have it and some days you're not. 335 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,039 But you know, if you're scheduled to play golf, you know you can 336 00:23:03,079 --> 00:23:06,839 need to say I'm not going to play gouse. I don't have it today, 337 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,839 or do you go out there and have fun and coming with the best 338 00:23:08,839 --> 00:23:11,960 score you can buy at least keeping your emotions in check. Well, of 339 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,400 course, And then you know, for a baseball player who has a guaranteed 340 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,720 contract, and when Palmer was playing, they weren't making fifty million dollars a 341 00:23:18,799 --> 00:23:22,680 year, but you know, guaranteed contract, coach, I can't pitch today, 342 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,279 take me out. But a golfer, he doesn't play, he doesn't 343 00:23:26,279 --> 00:23:30,440 get paid, right, and even if he does pay play, he may 344 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:36,640 not get paid. And for the recreational golfer, we're paying to play. 345 00:23:36,839 --> 00:23:38,720 So it's hard to say, you know what, I know, I've only 346 00:23:38,759 --> 00:23:41,880 played five holes, guys, but I don't have it today. I'm leaving 347 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,880 right, everyone's going to like, what are you crazy? Then what do 348 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,559 you do? You know you don't have it, but you got it, 349 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,839 you got to stick it out. Well, that's when you say, well, 350 00:23:52,279 --> 00:23:56,319 let's see how good my mental game is going to be today. Let's 351 00:23:56,319 --> 00:24:00,920 see if I can finish it up being positive on every single shot. Let's 352 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,400 start using the four step routine. Four step routine, another great thing number 353 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:11,119 one, feedback, number two, relax number three, prepare number four, 354 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,119 instinctive execution. So you're out there playing, you don't have your stuff. 355 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,480 You make one bad shot after another. If you're just focusing on the score 356 00:24:18,519 --> 00:24:22,359 of the outcome, you're going to become a very miserable, frustrated person and 357 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,160 wish you didn't even play that day. But if you're using the four step 358 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,720 routine, you're playing one shot at a time. And so what you do. 359 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:33,839 Let's say, hit a bad shot. Take a look at that bad 360 00:24:33,839 --> 00:24:37,599 shot. Okay, Now why was it bad? You take a look on 361 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,160 your mechanics. Well, maybe because I was still angry for my last shot. 362 00:24:41,319 --> 00:24:42,920 Whatever it was. You say, what could I do better the next 363 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:48,200 time? And then maybe the only thing is I can have a better attitude 364 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,240 on my next shot. So you made a decision on the feedback your attitude. 365 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,359 With that, let's have a better attitude. So then you have a 366 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,759 chance to relax. You talk to your bodies what a rotten shot that was, 367 00:24:57,799 --> 00:25:03,000 But you know what, at least keep my attitude strong. So then 368 00:25:03,319 --> 00:25:07,440 number that's to his feet with a relaxed number three is preparation. You're walking 369 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,640 to the ball, you're taking a look at the distance to lie, the 370 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,119 club, selection, weather conditions, and you say, we got this all 371 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,319 squared away now, instead of thinking about how bad the day is going, 372 00:25:18,759 --> 00:25:22,599 let's just say, you know what, I can take the attitude glass full 373 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,200 of glass, half full of glass, half empty, And right now my 374 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,480 attitude is a glass is half empty because every shot has been dead. So 375 00:25:30,759 --> 00:25:33,799 why don't we change your attitude and see what's going to happen. Let's just 376 00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:36,240 say, hey, I don't care what's going to happen. I'm just going 377 00:25:36,319 --> 00:25:38,000 to have a good attitude. I'm going to step up there, hit that 378 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,480 ball and see what happens with a good attitude. And so you get up 379 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:47,839 there, hit the ball. Guess what you're gonna find out You're going to 380 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:52,559 have more good shots having a good attitude than when you have a bad attitude 381 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:59,559 and then you know. So you get your number four feet, you have 382 00:25:59,599 --> 00:26:02,799 your range in an instant execution, and then you go back up the number 383 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,640 one feedback. Okay, what was the feedback? You take a look, 384 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,640 what was my attitude on that shot? Well, it was better, but 385 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,119 it wasn't really good. So you do the whole process again, or my 386 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,119 next shot, I'm going to make sure my attitude is good. So all 387 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,759 of a sudden, you're not worrying about the score. You're worring You're focusing 388 00:26:18,799 --> 00:26:22,359 on improving your attitude. So by the end of the day, you've had 389 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,720 all of those opportunities to improve your gratitude. And if you walk off with 390 00:26:26,759 --> 00:26:30,920 a bad score and a good attitude, guess what you won that day? 391 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,119 Yeah? Yeah, And listen, if you're not scoring, well, your 392 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,759 attitude is going to go down. So stop looking at your scorecard, damn 393 00:26:37,799 --> 00:26:42,200 it. Yeah, and just start focusing on, yeah, changing your chemistry, 394 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,759 and you would find out that, wow, all of a sudden things 395 00:26:45,759 --> 00:26:49,279 work out. Well. Here's another thing that's an interesting phenomena. The guys 396 00:26:49,319 --> 00:26:53,519 on tour. They're very good players. If you look historically, if a 397 00:26:53,559 --> 00:26:56,759 person comes out of the gate and he shoots in the low sixties, sixty 398 00:26:56,799 --> 00:27:02,359 one, sixty two, sixty three. Wow, you know what the odds 399 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,680 are that he's going to not break seventy the next day? Oh? Is 400 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:11,640 that true? Odds are against him to have another good round eighty extent, 401 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,200 But almost eighty percent of the time they're going to shoot in the seventies. 402 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,880 Is that right? Yeah? Check it out. It was almost fored me 403 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,000 when I saw it. And the reason why, yeah, why is that 404 00:27:22,519 --> 00:27:26,119 it's amazing because they get so involved. Oh my god, I shot a 405 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,160 great score because if I could do that the next day, I'm going to 406 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,720 win this thing. So they go from process oriented to total outcome oriented. 407 00:27:34,319 --> 00:27:37,440 Guess what happens after they make one or two bad shots the next day? 408 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,599 Their attitude goes down, right, score goes up. But these guys have 409 00:27:42,839 --> 00:27:48,240 These guys have confidence in themselves, and confidence is so key as well, 410 00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:55,960 but attitude can really shake that up. Sure. And what happens is people 411 00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:00,759 say what comes first? Confidence or success opens always comes first, because if 412 00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:07,000 you're depending upon your success, you're depending upon the outside world create your confidence. 413 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,119 Now, what happens if all of a sudden you get a couple of 414 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:14,000 bad breaks. Oh you know, where's your success disappears, Your confidence disappears 415 00:28:14,319 --> 00:28:18,759 round Robin Dow. Whereas if you have an attitude, I don't care what 416 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,079 the outside world is. I am the man. Nothing's going to shake me 417 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,279 because I know it's just a matter of time till I can turn my game 418 00:28:26,319 --> 00:28:30,319 around. It's a whole different world. You're not concerned about the outcome. 419 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,880 You know that you're good and it's just a matter of time for the probabilities 420 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:40,519 to come into line. Because while you're keeping that attitude, you're keeping your 421 00:28:40,599 --> 00:28:45,319 chemistry high, increasing your probability of success because your performance is going to be 422 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,440 higher right now. You know, some of these great players like I forget 423 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,880 who it was, a basketball player, and you know he said, when 424 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,200 you go, oh for twelve shooting, he said, what do you think? 425 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,319 He said, well, I think the average is going to come on 426 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,240 my side off feel real good about that. And he said, well, 427 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,880 what if you go for twelve for twelve? He's what do you think that 428 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:10,160 he's want? I think it's my dayude gets highed. It is no matter 429 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:15,880 what happens, my attitude is always there. Early on in the life of 430 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,559 golf smarter. I had an opportunity to go play at a tournament where there 431 00:29:19,559 --> 00:29:23,720 were a lot of former NBA players, and I was walking around with my 432 00:29:23,799 --> 00:29:30,039 microphone now and I remember asking them, you know and talking about, you 433 00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:32,680 know, a mental approach or you know, having a good, strong mental 434 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:37,440 approach to it. And and I have found that professional athletes are like, 435 00:29:37,319 --> 00:29:41,440 what what do you mean mental game? You know, It's like, I 436 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,799 don't think that I'm going to lose or do poorly. Ever, I'm always 437 00:29:45,839 --> 00:29:51,920 going to go right out at it and and give it my all every single 438 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,240 time. I'm not going to like, hmm, should I should I lay 439 00:29:55,359 --> 00:30:00,839 up on this one. I'm going for it. I'm always going for it. 440 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,160 That makes me laugh. You talk about, you know what the mental 441 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,440 game, mister October baseball player, who was there? Reggie Jackson, Okay, 442 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:12,039 nineteen seventy seven, three home runs, three pitches. This was back 443 00:30:12,079 --> 00:30:17,200 in the early eighties when I first started working using the mental training program. 444 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,200 You know, the thing that I worked with, but the chemistry of the 445 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,880 brain. And back in the early eighties, people didn't even know about the 446 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,160 chemistry of the brain. It was just like a luck you're the man from 447 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,119 the runner. Right. So I'm down at pomp And Springs. I'm doing 448 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,200 some work with some golfers down there, and I think it was the h 449 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:38,440 he was playing with the Giants or Dodgers. Who Reggie Jackson, Yeah, 450 00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:45,279 in the well he went from in the eighties, he was at the Angels 451 00:30:45,319 --> 00:30:48,480 by that point. I think he went from the Oakland A's to the Yankees, 452 00:30:48,519 --> 00:30:51,720 and I think it was the Angels. Okay, So anyway, their 453 00:30:51,799 --> 00:30:53,119 team is down Palm Springs, you know, yeah, I think that was 454 00:30:53,119 --> 00:30:59,279 the Angels spring training. So I get along the fence and he's out on 455 00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:00,759 the outfield. This is right to Jackson, I said, you know, 456 00:31:00,839 --> 00:31:03,359 this guy was having a little slump or something like that, and I said 457 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,880 him to call him over, you know, pump him up and you know, 458 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,240 try to go on his coattails. So I called him over, Rightgie, 459 00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:14,079 come here. Sure enough, he comes running over to me. What's 460 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,400 up? I says, hey, I do mental training. He said, 461 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,200 mental training. He got so mad at me. He said, you go 462 00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:26,240 to those young kids, you don't come. He was insult Yeah, he 463 00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:27,799 had a he had a way when he was in uniform. He was not 464 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:33,119 the friendliest person in the world. But it was amazing that I had so 465 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,880 much confidence in myself. I said, come in here. He came over. 466 00:31:37,359 --> 00:31:40,640 Wow, that's pretty good. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. 467 00:31:41,079 --> 00:31:47,400 Well, Michael Listen, could we do another recording, another interview for Golf 468 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:52,279 Smarter members, because you know, this is why it was so easy for 469 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:59,200 us to do fifty six weeks a row of episodes, because I I could 470 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:05,480 talk about swinging canix. You know only so much, and you know, 471 00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:09,960 and i'd seem to, but I can talk about the mental game a lot, 472 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:15,559 and I think it's so so important for the average golfer who doesn't have 473 00:32:15,599 --> 00:32:22,160 the time or the commitment to to practice as much as they want. But 474 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,440 I really think the mental game is so important. Could you come back and 475 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:30,279 we do a Golf Smart for members only. I'd be happy to come back. 476 00:32:30,279 --> 00:32:35,160 On one condition. Okay, I can plug Mental Keys dot Com. 477 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,880 No, sorry, you can't do that. Also, Michael has just the 478 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,279 two books, Mental Golf Tips and The Mental Keys to Improve Your Golf. 479 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,240 Michael's books are not difficult to get through. They're not thick, but they 480 00:32:47,279 --> 00:32:52,079 resonate very deeply with every person who's ever read it. As his stories testify. 481 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,920 I have a lot more questions for you. And it's interesting because of 482 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,680 all the time we've talked, stuff keeps coming up. And that's what I 483 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:07,000 love about having conversations with you. And I want to talk about personality types 484 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:12,400 with you and how that affects it as well. So let's schedule something and 485 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,960 we'll just as far as the listener's concerned. You're going to be back on 486 00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:19,200 the next episode Golf Smarter for members only, and if you're not a member, 487 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,799 you're not going to hear it. So please join today, Michael, 488 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,119 Thanks so much, my pleasure. Fred