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You're listening to the Downbeat on ninety
seven the Freak. All right, here

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we go Friday morning. I hope
everyone's doing great. Be safe on your

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way to work today. You're gonna
have a wet one one hundred chance of

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rain at ten am. Should die
off pretty soon though. It's gonna have

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a little storm system kind of moving
in this morning with lots of rain and

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then filter off and have a setup
for a for a fun weekend. Hopefully

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you got big plans. A couple
of things to watch this weekend? Uh

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okay, Polyphonics Free Holiday Extravaganza tonight
and tomorrow night at the Majestic. Also,

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if you go see our friend Paul
Vargeese Sunday at Teks in Addison,

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He's got to show at seven right
after Cowboys and Bills, So go check

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that out if you want to.
Sure call Ture life. A lot of

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holiday fun filled activities are in store
for you. keV oh like the Holiday

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Extravaganza and Paul Vargeese comedy. What
more do you want holiday comedy from?

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In parts, I've been jamming out
that new Polyphonic Spree record. I finished

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the Rick Rubin podcast yesterday. Did
you finish that. Yes, on the

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way to work this morning. Did
what did you have a so good?

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We're going to get to sports real
quick. I did want to talk to

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Danny about something because Danny and I
are two guys from the country, just

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sitting around talking about the country.
As Danny grew up in Knox City,

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I grew up in Olney. What's
about How far is that for? About

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sixty miles from each other? Probably? Yeah? Probably? How close are

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you to Seymour about thirty boy,
it's probably thirty, but it feels like

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forty minutes. Yeah, yeah,
and Seymour's thirty five from NOx City?

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You were about an hour fifteen.
Maybe we grew up an hour well,

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I mean you were a fetus,
yeah sure, yeah, yeah, but

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I was born in eighty eight.
I'd already left when you were born.

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Yeah, but yeah, we still
have the same reference points. I grew

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up near your parents. Did you
have a uh? When? When this

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podcast tim to latter to the Polyphonic
Spree with Rick Rubin, legendary music producer

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and Beastie Boys slayer. You name
it jay Z System of a Down.

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I mean it goes on and on
and on and uh did you have a

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similar experience to getting saved in church. Yes, very much so. I

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mean when Tim said that, I
was like almost petrified. How similar?

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Mind was? Yeah, do you
want to talk about that for two seconds?

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Yeah, well we can. Let's
do it real quick. Okay.

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So there's a there's a part in
the Tim DeLaughter podcast with Rick Rubin where

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Tim, because I think Rick acts, asks him, you know, because

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Rick Rubin loves Polyphonics Free and he's
emotionally affected by their music. He's been

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a fan for twenty plus years.
And he asks Tim, are you a

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spiritual person? You know, because
he's wondering where these songs come from?

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Does it come from some you know, guiding spirit that moves within you?

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Stuff sounds churchy sometimes, and Tim
says, well, you know, I

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did grow up in the church per
se. His grandfather was a pastor and

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his mom was kind of always searching
for some type of spiritual answers and ended

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up going to this one church,
a Church of Christ I believe, and

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said that, you know, you
kind of feel that pressure at the end

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of the sermon where they do the
invitation and all your friends are getting saved,

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and you feel that I guess I'll
do it too. And the next

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thing you know, you're you're in
a room after the service with you know,

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all these other kids and they're little
kids, like eleven years old,

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you know, making these decisions.
And there's a guy in there, a

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preacher or a deacon or whomever,
you know, basically setting you up for

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indoctrination. And uh. And the
guy the priest comes around and he like

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puts his hand on Tim and and
Tim said that there were other people in

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the room that were like speaking in
tongues. So Tim just starts going like

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so intimidated, he didn't need to
do she want to get out of it,

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faking it to get out of it. Yeah, And as he's doing

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this the priest. The priest is
like, ah, yes, and he

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starts telling the group that he's translating
what Tim is saying into English, I

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guess. And Tim's like, oh, man, I was just making this

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up because I wanted to get the
hell out of here. And he said

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it just kind of like absolutely crushed
him and his disillusionment with that whole world.

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I didn't have the yet place of
the you know, the pastor touching

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me and doing the you know,
yeah, but the peer pressure of all

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your friends are going to do it, so you should go do it.

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Mm hm, and the music and
they get you and they break you down

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and you're just yeah, I was
under the age of ten. Yeah,

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you know, I think I was
thirteen. And by the way, that

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doesn't mean I don't believe, because
I've been pretty open about jo where I'm

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at. I don't know what I
believe or don't believe. Yeah, I'm

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not sure, and I don't think
anybody can say that what they believe is

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true to any degree of certainty.
You know, you just don't know.

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It's a roll of the dice and
and those that do cool. Yeah,

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dude, absolutely always felt that way. Anyway. Yeah, I had a

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similar experience as well. Or you
went down to the front and I was

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the last man standing in the in
the in the congregation that hadn't been saved,

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and there's all my friends up there, and like, oh man,

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I guess I'll go. And you
know, went down the saved pretty good,

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eyes out for a walk and I
that hit me and I was just

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like, dude, that podcast is
intense for two calm guys just talking.

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Yeah, it was great. As
one of the guys starts crying, and

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you know, how can you really
trust the decision making of an under undeveloped

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or underdeveloped brain of an eleven year
old? Yeah, well do they they

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don't know what they're doing or in
some cases eight and nine. Sure,

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that's It's a lot enough of that. Let's do sports. That's good and

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host for it, and one of
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and he couldn't. He wasn't available,

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Do you You probably didn't because of
BALLEI you played it and getting MAVs.

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I followed it on my sports app, my CBS sports Line app on my

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phone, so I was checking in
every few minutes to see how things were

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going, and it looked pretty good. Half Man Luca was posting big numbers.

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They were up by one. I
check in in the middle of the

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third quarter. Luca's up to like
thirty five. MAVs are I think down

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by two? And then I checked
back in and they were down by ten,

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and I think it just kind of
never never went back in their favor

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at that point. So now I
didn't get to watch it, unfortunately,

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but I did keep up. I
mean last night's game, first of all,

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still not full strength with Kyrie not
ready to go yet after he gets

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stepped on, you know, last
week on his foot and get rolled up

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on a little bit, so a
little you know, could use a little

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more offense there against the number one
defense in the league in Minnesota, who's

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the number one team in the Western
Conference. Also kind of comes down to

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Mavericks didn't shoot the three pointer well
last night, and yeah, so every

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time that happens, they're gonna lose. Absolutely. I saw Timmy Hardaway's line

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somewhere in the middle of the third
and he was like something like zero for

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six from three. Yeah, and
it was just, you know, look,

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Minnesota gets credit because they're good,
first of all, and that's I

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think kind of the story is that
they're really good and they're playing like they

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traded for Rudy Gobert last year to
play alongside Karl Anthony Towns, and they

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got another guy who's big named nas
Reed. My buddy Lucia has issued a

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no fly zone for the city of
Dallas from nas Reed. Na Read went

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seven of eleven from three last night, and he's like a big, like

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six foot eleven guy. I mean, nas Reed is a good player,

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but he and a type of guy
who's normally go out and knock down over

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five threes a game. He hit
seven threes. The MAVs were were really

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bad from three last night outside of
ExHAM, who was two for three.

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Grant Williams one of seven did sweet
Sex. I'm not get a lot of

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time. Yeah, twenty eight minutes, okay, fourteen points, but hardaway,

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you know, thirty one minutes,
ten points and he was oh of

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seven to three. He's just like
e it's gonna be bad night if he's

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not if he's not rolling. Luca
did what he could thirty nine points,

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thirteen assists, the usual from Luca, but he didn't hit the trip dub

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though. Did he no six rebounds? Yeah, he could have got the

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triple double if you can't turnovers as
he had eight, he was getting ptty

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close to that. Again, what
a good defense, resolute, shorthanded story

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of the night for me. We're
going back to something that we've talked about

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a lot. Luca got a technical
in the first quarter, and I think

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that puts him up to eight on
the year. I think now sixteen is

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when you get the suspension. He's
already got half of his suspension total and

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you're not even really close to the
mid season point. Maybe it's seven.

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I'm not sure if counting us name
was seven or eight either way. So

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they do this report at the end
of the game with the crew chief of

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the crew so this is Tim Cato, the athletic with crew chief Curtis Blair.

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Question, what did Luca say that
cause the first quarter technical to be

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called? Blair said, after a
note called, Luca overtly gestures by hitting

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his hand multiple times while yelling call
the foul and aggressively walking towards the official

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before I answer. The second question
that was asked is that, Okay,

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no, it's not you shouldn't get
technical for that, right. I don't

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know. I don't think it's okay
what Luca did, because Luca needs to

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know better. He's been in this
league long enough. He knows what the

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standard is when it comes to technicals, especially for him, because I do

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think that they I think the criteria
is customized to the specific to specific players.

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I don't think it's a cut and
dried, uh protocol, you know,

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I think it's all I think they
issue technicals on a sliding scale,

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and Luca needs to know where he
is. He should know by now and

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No, you can't scream at an
official and pound your fist into your hand

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and approach them yelling call the foul. Yeah, I agree, and I

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I think there's a lot of message
like, Okay, we've got a Reugh

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problem because he did, he did
get fouled. Lebron doesn't do that.

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He doesn't do it a lot.
Not like that though, not like that.

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Uh, it's every night, and
it's been really every night since Luca's

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been in the league. And this
is where I'm like, you just have

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to know. I think they're sick
of him. I agree. I think

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they don't. I think they will
get along fun, but I think there

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it's like it can probably different with
each crew chief too. Yes, but

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if a crew chief, do you
hang out together for the end, like,

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look, it gives me some of
that stuff. These dreffs could be

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having a bad night too. You
know whatever, If he gives me that

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stuff early, we were gonna put
a stop to it. Luca knows every

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damn official in this league by name. Yeah, He's got rapport with all

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of them. He knows their tendencies, he knows what he can and can't

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get away with. Yet he just
can't help himself. I have no problem

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with them teeing him up. He
is gonna have to effing learn, man.

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There there are ways to work the
officials and remain technical free. And

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it's time in this kid's career that
he gets over that hump, you know,

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because this is unacceptable. I think
we're to a point now where I

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mean, there's a part of me
that's like, dude, yes, refs,

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suck it up and get yelled at
a little bit, and don't you

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know, don't call a soft ass
technical on a normal player. This is

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different the superstar thing. It's basically
that part of Luca's game as kind of

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out the window now, because I
think this reputation follows you, and it's

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why when Draymond Green anything happens,
that's violence, whether it's intentional or not.

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You have to go. We gotta
suspend you, dude. We just

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can't. You don't have a leg
to stand on anymore. So that's all

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right now. The follow up question
was had Lucas said anything prior to that

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technical that contributed to it being called? The crew chief says no, he

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did not, So Luca had not
said anything. He gets fouled and just

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I mean, did he did get
hacked. I'm not I'm not like that

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is very clear that it was right
on the forearm, a big one.

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It hurts, okay, and Lucat
walks to him basically paper scissor Rock won

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two shoots through it and clapping.
He called the foul walking at him and

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the immediately and this is a quick
The ref very quickly. Didn't think twice.

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So that tells me that it was
in the ref's head. If Luca

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gives me an s tonight, he's
getting it early. And that forced Luca

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had kind of calmed down because he
wanted to bitch about a couple of calls

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in the second half, and you
can tell him kind of pull back as

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he was about to like go talk
to the ref. Hey, this is

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where you're at. He's he's earned
this, he's earned this. He's also

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he earns a lot of the calls
he gets too by being a superstar.

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But this is like, it was
a clear foul. I was watching,

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I was like, oh my god, call the fowl. But and then

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you immediately go don't look a stop
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That's why I said the other day, you get to the ref because he

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can't help appeal to your head coach
and let him handle it. Yeah,

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I just I know Jason Kidd's not
the most demonstrative head coach, and he's

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not somebody that you know is gonna
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But I mean, if it was
that blatant of a foul, go

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to your coach and to ask him
to review the damn play, Yeah,

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which you know they can. They
don't want to burn him like early in

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the first quarter. You don't want
to burn your challenge in case things that

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that. I get it, But
I just I don't know, man,

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this is to a point where I
just I want to get Luca's back here.

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The dude got fouled. The refs
should be a little better, right,

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Yeah, but dude, you just
if some guy who doesn't ever get

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technicals does that, they're probably fine. These rests are talking about it before

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the game. Luca is gonna be
in our ass tonight. We're gonna have

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to call a foul on him.
Early. I could have worded that better

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and didn't well apologize. Well,
okay, if Luca gets fouled and walks

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by the ref on the way back, you know to play defense and has

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his hands up to the ref and
goes, come on, man, he

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ain't getting he ain't getting teed up
for that. This is this is blatant.

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Yeah, it's blaytant. It is. He's showing up the ref.

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He's being he's showing aggression. Two
signs of aggression, punching his hand with

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his fist and walking towards the ref. And I don't even know. Maybe

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it's possible that the the crew chief
left out any type of profanity. I

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would assume that there wasn't. He
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I don't think there was. But
dude, Luca, watching it, you

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can see him go cold the full. He's got to do better. He's

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got to manage his temper and his
emotions. He's got to get on top

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of that. There are ways you
can you can work those referees. You

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can be passive aggressive with them.
You can be a smart ass with them.

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You can make jokes with them,
maybe like wonderful call Bill. Yeah,

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yeah, exactly, look at this. You see that. Yeah,

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but that is just that's that's petulant. That is childish. That's a baby

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part of it. Two, when
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Luca does, You're gonna take on
more hits and pain will cause outrage more

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than anything, right, I mean, that's true. So, I mean

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I think there is an element of
that that we need to consider as guys

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who are sitting and talking without getting
hacked on the forearm. And he's young,

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but geez, he's still figuring that, he's still figuring things out.

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You know. We take for granted
that he's still a kid, you know,

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but also he's a six year veteran
too. And the point is if

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you end up hurting your team because
you have to do a suspension later in

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the year in the West, where
you could win a game and you could

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be the three seed and lose a
game and be the seventh seed, it's

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no only plaid. Twenty four games
and fifteen and nine. Good start by

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the way through twenty four games,
but geez, we need you, dude.

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Michael Parsons speaks out about an NFL
officiating. He said yesterday, the

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problem see with officiating is I think
it becomes a lot more ego than it

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is them actually wanting to call it. People say, when you come over

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and talk to a ref, he's
gonna want to do his job right,

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But in my eyes, why would
I have to talk to you any kind

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of way if you just did your
job the first time? He said he

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wants to lead to add more officials
or give coaches the ability to challenge plays

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on which they believe a penalty should
have been called. I do not want

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that will never finish a game.
Coach are allowed to challenge plays where they

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think a penalty should have been called. That were really pissed Troy Aikman off.

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Oh my god, he was so
ready to go home. Just call

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the play. Just think if there's
a giant stack of meatball sitting next to

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him and he has to wait for
a coach to challenge a penalty that wouldn't

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called. Is they're just getting cold? I mean, that was a decent

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game Monday night of two garbage teams, but it was like a close game.

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Like my Michaels and Kirk Herbstreek do
have something to bitch about? Is

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on Thursday Night football? Last night? It was sixty three to fourteen or

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whatever the score was. It was
forty two to nothing at halftime. The

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Raiders over the Chargers. The Chargers, the hell did they did? They

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resurrect Cliff Branch and the Snake.
You get those guys back together. Last

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night? What the hell they had? Chargers still like eleven touchdowns or something.

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The Chargers have quit on their team
and we saw it live on National

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TV last night. Why oh god, I swing over there for any of

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that. Brandon Staley is going to
lose his job probably today. Kellen Moore.

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I don't know how much you put
on in Brandon Staley's defensive head coach,

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and that defense finishes in the twenties
every year. Kellen Moore's outfensive coordinator.

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He might get the job for five
games, but not a good look

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for him. Also, Justin Herbert's
out for the year. Heard his finger.

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He's gone. But oh, Chargers
are a mess. What's the record?

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Five and nine? Okay? So
and they quit? So E.

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This week we have Josh Allen.
He's only been sacked eighteen times this year,

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which is tied for the fewest in
the league with Mahomes. What did

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MIKEA say about Josh? Do you
have that quote? And yeah, so

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he's talking about how he respects him
because he was on Madden, the cover

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of Madden and these Beach But he
also said I'll just read the quote from

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the article. Parson's respect level for
Alan is strong. He even joked at

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the two had attended the same college, he wouldn't like him because the quarterback

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is trying to get everyone a little
tipsy. Josh reminds me of a lot

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of that one get okay hold on, Parsons said, smiling, Josh reminds

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me a lot of that one crazy
guy at the frat, which we had

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the article for the other day where
they said Josh Allen is the guy who

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likes to make wiener jokes and just
run into people. He's the guy most

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likely to give you a ball tap. Yeah, God, dude, don't

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hit me in the nuts. We
all know what it hurts. You'll work

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with people like that for the years, who just like, I'm tapping on

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the nuts. What are you doing? He spent his college down time on

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the couch smoking doobies, watching wild
boys. Why are those guys though always

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physical, they always just want to
get you and grab you by the neck.

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Haven't touch me. Hated those guys. Hated them. Touch guy most

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likely to just polish pants down for
no reason. The guy in the locker

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room shower who would go, look, I tucked it, you know.

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Yes, yes, they're weird,
man, nothing worse. I don't do

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that. Yeah, we're nasty,
as you know, because the boys are

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nasty. There's some bad apples,
but JJ, there's some bad apples that

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spoiled the bunch. It starts at
a young age that we don't make every

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woman out to be casey, Anthony. You can't broadbrush everything here, Anthony,

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How do we get way over there? All women? I mean,

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well, there we go. There's
your sports. I cannot wait for Cowboys

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bills and we'll be sight around for
eight o'clock. You're scorching hot predictions,

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hotter than usual, I'll say,
for the first time in about a month.

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I'm feeling good about mine. So
we have that'll be good for you.

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Coming up next? Oh man,
I'm predicting danger in Collin County plus

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burning vehicle at a Walmart. What
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