WEBVTT 1 00:00:36.200 --> 00:00:42.159 Well here we are back here live a UFL college draft recap Wednesday. Here. 2 00:00:42.280 --> 00:00:45.920 Thanks everyone for joining, Please like and subscribe by trying to get up 3 00:00:45.920 --> 00:00:50.079 to four thousand subscribers. We'll probably do a couple of giveaways here when we 4 00:00:50.159 --> 00:00:53.719 hit four thousand. I know Dustin over at Rural Retros, so we'll get 5 00:00:53.759 --> 00:00:57.600 a couple of those custom jerseys. Whether you're a CFL fan, we can 6 00:00:57.640 --> 00:01:02.039 do XFL stuff, USFL stuff. I have my Marcas won my XFL Dragons. 7 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:07.000 One. We will showcase big guest list standy by. See Anthony just 8 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:08.000 lugged in this. Well, that was my bat. I'm like, where 9 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:11.719 the heck is Anthony Miller? And then well I had never actually sent over 10 00:01:11.760 --> 00:01:15.000 the link, so that's it's usually always my fault, which it is now, 11 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:18.480 but this is excited. Let me bring in everyone and then we'll do 12 00:01:18.519 --> 00:01:22.239 all the preface. We have Evan here, Greg Parks, Anthony Miller, 13 00:01:22.239 --> 00:01:26.280 everyone standing by. You know, fool me once, shame on me, 14 00:01:26.480 --> 00:01:30.400 fool me twice. Like I'm always so used to these drafts. Hey, 15 00:01:30.439 --> 00:01:34.959 it's happening at seven am. And then we get a press release sometime in 16 00:01:34.959 --> 00:01:38.319 the afternoon. I go, there's no way today they're going to post this 17 00:01:38.439 --> 00:01:41.719 like, we'll go live at five. Everyone could have notes and everything, 18 00:01:41.719 --> 00:01:44.439 which we have, and then of course this all went out in a really 19 00:01:44.519 --> 00:01:48.400 timely manner. Here, Greg, like, I feel like we've lived through 20 00:01:48.439 --> 00:01:49.959 this many times, I, Evan and Anthy have as well, but this 21 00:01:51.159 --> 00:01:53.400 seemed to go pretty smooth today. Greg will introduce yourself and like, what 22 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:57.400 do you think? Like, because I said, normally this is something that 23 00:01:57.439 --> 00:01:59.599 comes in a pressure really so there, I felt like they tried to make 24 00:01:59.599 --> 00:02:04.680 this beast today and yet it wasn't all that people wanted it to be either, 25 00:02:05.040 --> 00:02:07.000 Like people say, why don't you televise this and things like that. 26 00:02:07.039 --> 00:02:10.199 It's like no, no, no, so they you know, they released 27 00:02:10.199 --> 00:02:16.400 the picks on social media. Each team's social media account tweeted the picks out. 28 00:02:17.319 --> 00:02:22.439 So, you know, I think for what this draft is, and 29 00:02:22.599 --> 00:02:24.000 you know, we can get into the weeds a little bit and talk about 30 00:02:24.400 --> 00:02:30.400 what this draft is and what this draft is not, I think having it 31 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:34.919 play out the way it did today, certainly it's better than dumping them all 32 00:02:34.960 --> 00:02:38.120 in a press release, which we've seen before. This is kind of the 33 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:40.960 norm I'm expecting now. I think, you know, read you. And 34 00:02:42.039 --> 00:02:46.120 I were on We Run with Pat for the Super Dispersal Draft back in January, 35 00:02:46.599 --> 00:02:50.039 and that's how they did it. We were on live and they were 36 00:02:50.080 --> 00:02:53.439 doing the picks in a very similar way on social media. Each team's account 37 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:57.560 was releasing who they were picking, and that's how they did it today. 38 00:02:57.599 --> 00:03:00.000 So I think if there is a draft after in the fall, I'm not 39 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:04.039 sure there will be, but if there is, I think we can probably 40 00:03:04.080 --> 00:03:07.639 expect the announcements done the same way. Yeah, this felt, and we'll 41 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:12.360 get Evan in here because I've thought we pre show. I think Evan did 42 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:15.840 a fantastic job of kind of explaining because there's still a lot of questions where 43 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:19.759 we're going to have Anthony here as well, and Anthony has this article I'm 44 00:03:19.759 --> 00:03:22.759 ready to pull up and Greg as well, and Evan said he has no 45 00:03:22.879 --> 00:03:25.400 which is great because again, normally I always try to go live like oh, 46 00:03:25.479 --> 00:03:28.800 the draft's going to be at you know, ten am Easter, and 47 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:30.599 like let's get on at seven, let's do it, and then we kind 48 00:03:30.639 --> 00:03:34.960 of sit around and pontificate for an hour, kind of waiting for the results 49 00:03:34.960 --> 00:03:38.199 to come in. This time, they came in on time, of course, 50 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:40.479 we're late now, but now we're here. It's five o'clock. I 51 00:03:40.520 --> 00:03:44.199 was doing line work all day. I fell off a ladder. I put 52 00:03:44.280 --> 00:03:46.840 on a shirt, but I think I might have elbow there. Entered my 53 00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:51.199 elbow very poorly here and trying to trying to shave one of my one of 54 00:03:51.240 --> 00:03:54.199 the hedges outside. But we're here, and we have lots of things to 55 00:03:54.240 --> 00:03:58.520 talk about, Evan. For people in the chat Phillips checking in a bill 56 00:03:58.599 --> 00:04:00.439 here, we'll pull up the comments. But Evan, can you explain the 57 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:05.400 draft today? Because this very much is the USFL's college draft now with the 58 00:04:05.479 --> 00:04:09.840 UFL right merge kind of like, can you, Evan, what is going 59 00:04:09.919 --> 00:04:12.800 on here? Do they have for people checking in, like whether we and 60 00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:15.000 how does this work? Right? Well, a lot of the players that 61 00:04:15.040 --> 00:04:18.600 you saw today, it's not a guarantee that they play in the UFL. 62 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:23.160 This is essentially a rights draft. The USFL, back when they were a 63 00:04:23.199 --> 00:04:26.920 separate entity, had one back in twenty twenty three, and they actually did 64 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:30.079 theirs prior to the NFL Draft, which was an interesting strategy because a lot 65 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:34.000 of the players that were selected in that draft ended up signing NFL contracts or 66 00:04:34.120 --> 00:04:39.160 NFL draft picks, and they never appeared in the USFL. I would expect 67 00:04:39.519 --> 00:04:43.319 similar things here. A lot of the players that you saw that were drafted 68 00:04:43.360 --> 00:04:47.040 today are currently under contract in the NFL. A majority of them are undrafted 69 00:04:47.079 --> 00:04:53.040 free agents. I thought Houston's draft class in particular was interesting because I believe 70 00:04:53.079 --> 00:04:57.480 they only drafted two players that had signed into the NFL and the rest of 71 00:04:57.519 --> 00:05:00.800 their class was current free agents. It's an interesting strategy and one that might 72 00:05:01.360 --> 00:05:05.160 work out better for them considering the position they were in last year. But 73 00:05:05.439 --> 00:05:11.279 the idea is that you know, the chances of all eighty players that you 74 00:05:11.360 --> 00:05:15.720 saw taken today in the draft playing in the UFL and twenty twenty five are 75 00:05:15.759 --> 00:05:18.519 slim to none. Hopefully there's some. My guests would be I don't know, 76 00:05:18.560 --> 00:05:23.079 maybe a quarter, so twenty out of the eighty. And I have 77 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:26.319 notes on I think twenty or twenty one guys today that I really want to 78 00:05:26.319 --> 00:05:28.959 touch on, not saying that those are going to be the guys that actually 79 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:31.639 come, but just to give you know, a better idea or understanding to 80 00:05:31.720 --> 00:05:35.040 people out there who are new to this process. Because like I said, 81 00:05:35.079 --> 00:05:39.160 the USFL had a college draft. It was just like this at the beginning 82 00:05:39.160 --> 00:05:42.439 of twenty twenty three, and then last summer the XFL had a ton of 83 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:45.720 drafts, you know, rookie drafts, supplemental drafts, things of that nature, 84 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:49.279 and those were a similar process where they were all just acquiring rights and 85 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:54.240 not all those guys ended up actually playing in the league. Because it is 86 00:05:54.319 --> 00:05:58.439 weird because obviously we have in Mike Mitchell reported and we have you know, 87 00:05:58.519 --> 00:06:00.920 coaches laid off here at the end in the June. We're in the middle 88 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:05.120 of July. A lot of the team kind of DPPs are involved in a 89 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:08.879 lot of this stuff. You know, the coaches want to come out to 90 00:06:08.920 --> 00:06:11.879 do any of the showcases. They'll get paid for kind of that. But 91 00:06:12.319 --> 00:06:15.279 coming it's just like this weird time where we're acquiring you talent, we don't 92 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:19.399 necessarily have like league scouts. We have a lot of DPPs taking care of 93 00:06:19.399 --> 00:06:21.959 that. Like, Anthony, what do you make of all this? Because 94 00:06:21.959 --> 00:06:26.600 I'm sitting there, like I you know, I'm a Commander's fan Sam Hartman, 95 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:29.759 right, like our third string quarterback, Like he's draft in the league, 96 00:06:29.759 --> 00:06:30.920 Like what do you make of all this? Because I do think I 97 00:06:30.920 --> 00:06:33.839 don't think the league and I know, you know, Poor went out to 98 00:06:33.959 --> 00:06:38.199 Jeff like we lot, you know, Jeff with the VP of Comms for 99 00:06:38.279 --> 00:06:41.439 the UFL, like he's gone. It just feels a little like they don't 100 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:43.920 do a great job of explaining kind of what's going on here, Anthony, 101 00:06:43.959 --> 00:06:46.680 what do you make of this? Yeah, I mean it's hard to get 102 00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:49.759 excited about these drafts sometimes because like Evan said, like a lot of these 103 00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:53.959 guys are probably not gonna end up in the UFL. A lot of them 104 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:58.000 are in the NFL right now, and they're probably gonna either get on the 105 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:02.360 practice squad or be a thirst ring on an NFL team. So I mean 106 00:07:02.439 --> 00:07:06.160 it does build some excitement because it has been pretty quiet, Like I think 107 00:07:06.199 --> 00:07:10.360 there's only been fourteen players that have signed to the NFL, so, which 108 00:07:10.439 --> 00:07:14.720 is, you know, lower than what we're usually you know seeing. And 109 00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:19.000 then usually like around this time last offseason, there were teams that were signing 110 00:07:19.040 --> 00:07:23.360 players like they were signing free agents and stuff. We have not seen that 111 00:07:23.439 --> 00:07:26.720 at all. This is really the first time when we've talked about you know, 112 00:07:26.759 --> 00:07:30.360 like teams like I guess acquiring the rights of a player, but they're 113 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:33.560 not really getting them unless they like commit to it. So it's been a 114 00:07:33.560 --> 00:07:39.240 fairly quiet offseason and you know, hopefully a lot of these guys will be 115 00:07:39.319 --> 00:07:42.120 able to join the UFL. I think would be a great thing. There's 116 00:07:42.160 --> 00:07:46.040 a lot of good talent that's coming out of this draft. But yeah, 117 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:48.600 it's just you know, these drafts sometimes can be kind of anticomatic, and 118 00:07:48.639 --> 00:07:50.879 I think that's why they don't put it on television and stuff like that, 119 00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:54.240 because it's like you're only getting the rights of these players. It's why I 120 00:07:54.279 --> 00:07:57.720 like the CFL never does anything with their like negotiation lists and stuff like that, 121 00:07:57.759 --> 00:08:00.800 because I mean, we don't even know if these parts a play or 122 00:08:00.839 --> 00:08:03.519 not. Yeah no, And I think that's a great way to kind of 123 00:08:03.519 --> 00:08:05.000 look at it because you get a lot of this. I've seen players like 124 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:09.000 they've been selected, they tweet like, Okay, what's going on? This 125 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:11.639 is fake? Like it's not fake. It really is. Like the negotiations 126 00:08:11.680 --> 00:08:15.399 list. I think Anthony is correct. The best way to kind of phrase 127 00:08:15.439 --> 00:08:18.600 this where if you know your opportunity in the NFL doesn't work out, if 128 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:22.079 you choose to play in the NFL, this is the team that kind of 129 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:24.319 has your rights. I think that's a good way to look at it. 130 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:28.600 I would never like to see this televised because I just don't think that, 131 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:31.320 you know, Evan, like everyone here has a wealth of knowledge of these 132 00:08:31.320 --> 00:08:35.159 players, Like I don't think the casual person coming on would know like a 133 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:39.080 deep dive into a lot of the names that are involved in this. I 134 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:41.840 think it's good that we had some time to kind of work through that I 135 00:08:41.879 --> 00:08:43.840 wanted to read, and then we'll get to kind of Greg's initial thoughts into 136 00:08:43.960 --> 00:08:50.039 kind of the players that were drafted. So just I'm covering myself here to 137 00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:54.440 kind of read my press release here. So this came out on July eleven, 138 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:58.120 talking about the draft the UFL. You know, we'll hold the Callers 139 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:03.080 Draft today. They'll select from over twelve thousand draft eligible players. Players must 140 00:09:03.120 --> 00:09:05.799 be eligible to have been selected in the twenty twenty four NFL Draft and were 141 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:11.360 not selected. UFL teams will hold exclusive rights to those players they select until 142 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:13.960 players reports to the team or the team gives up their rights. All players 143 00:09:15.039 --> 00:09:18.240 eligible for the draft much it must have been out of high school for at 144 00:09:18.279 --> 00:09:22.200 least three years and exhausted or way with their college to eligibility. All players 145 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:26.679 who signed the UFL contract including players who remain under contract from the twenty twenty 146 00:09:26.679 --> 00:09:30.759 four season love an NFL out until December thirty. First, So, now 147 00:09:30.799 --> 00:09:33.799 that we've gotten all that, greg like initial thoughts today like how did the 148 00:09:33.799 --> 00:09:37.440 teams do? And I have your article here we can pull up if there's 149 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:41.960 anything specific, but what was your general takeaways? It really is hard to 150 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:46.480 analyze a draft of this type because so many of these players are never going 151 00:09:46.559 --> 00:09:52.559 to step foot on a UFL field. So it's you can't apply the usual 152 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:58.279 analyzation techniques that you would to an NFL draft or to an NBA draft. 153 00:09:58.879 --> 00:10:01.919 So I mean, if you want to look at the draft as far as 154 00:10:03.080 --> 00:10:07.399 pure talent, I mean you can do that and you can say what team 155 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:11.240 drafted the most talent, But it's very hard to look at it and say, 156 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:15.879 oh, you know, so and so filled their need they drafted two 157 00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:20.480 or three offensive linemen, because those offensive linemen probably are under NFL contract, 158 00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:26.200 probably will either make the team or make the practice squad. So I really 159 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:35.000 struggle with how to analyze and assess a draft of this nature. It is 160 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:41.000 kind of an amalgam of the USFL college draft from last year, the XFL 161 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:46.039 rookie draft in terms of the timing, and then the CFL rights Draft or 162 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:50.279 the negotiation list, which you guys mentioned, And it makes sense because there 163 00:10:50.320 --> 00:10:54.559 are representatives from all three leagues. You know, Jim Pop who's been in 164 00:10:54.600 --> 00:10:58.600 the CFL front offices, Doug Whaley who is with the XFL, and of 165 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:03.679 course Johnston with the USFL. They're all a part of the UFL. So 166 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:07.759 it does kind of feel like they've taken a little bit from each league's draft 167 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:13.840 and put it into this. So it is hard, and I think the 168 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:18.559 other thing that's hard about it too is if you get to the end of 169 00:11:18.600 --> 00:11:24.320 the NFL season. Let's take a player Keton Slovas quarterback out of byu for 170 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:28.639 example, he was drafted by DC. Let's say he spends the NFL season 171 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:33.000 on a practice squad. End of the year, he gets offered a futures 172 00:11:33.000 --> 00:11:39.120 contract by an NFL team. If you're the UFL, naturally you want him 173 00:11:39.159 --> 00:11:43.720 to choose playing in your league over signing that futures contract. But really, 174 00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:50.360 what can you offer because what we've learned about the UFL is that, at 175 00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:56.519 least publicly, they're not paying players over and above other players. Their salaries 176 00:11:56.600 --> 00:12:01.639 are the same. Whether or not that's true, we don't know. But 177 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:05.639 this is not a league based on what we've seen and how it spends money 178 00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:09.679 that's going to spend a lot of money and compete and say, yeah, 179 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:16.159 you can make this much an NFL futures deal, but we'll pay you x 180 00:12:16.240 --> 00:12:20.159 plus to be in our league. Right, and you can't even offer opportunity. 181 00:12:20.279 --> 00:12:24.200 You know, in years past you could say, well, you can 182 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:26.919 sign a futures deal, but you can also come and play in our league, 183 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:31.840 show out and sign with an NFL team in the summer, and maybe 184 00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:35.360 better positioned with that NFL team going into training camp. I mean, you 185 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:41.720 look at the numbers. Fourteen players at this point have signed into the NFL. 186 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:46.320 That's not a lot, and no quarterbacks. So you can't even offer 187 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:50.120 You can offer the opportunity to play in risk injury in the spring, but 188 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:52.200 you can't even say, look at the past, look at our numbers, 189 00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:56.440 look at the number of players we've put in the NFL. If you just 190 00:12:56.480 --> 00:13:00.480 take advantage of this opportunity, the league MVP, we're on the eve of 191 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:03.320 training camp. Some training camps have already started, and the league MVP, 192 00:13:03.399 --> 00:13:07.720 Adrian Martinez best quarterback in the league hasn't signed with an NFL team now I 193 00:13:07.799 --> 00:13:11.960 expect him to. But you can take a futures deal and you can be 194 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:18.440 with that team's playbook during the offseason, and you can go through mini camps 195 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:22.399 and OTAs and give yourself a chance to compete there and then go into training 196 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:28.080 camp with a leg up. Or you can play in the UFL get signed 197 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:31.240 by a team. Best case scenario, get signed by a team who's playbook 198 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:37.679 you're not familiar with, going into camp behind other players who've been in many 199 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:41.159 camps and who have been through OTAs and who have studied the playbook, even 200 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:46.399 rookies and udfa's at that point. So I don't really even see a selling 201 00:13:46.399 --> 00:13:50.360 point for the UFL for these guys, these fringe guys who might be considering 202 00:13:50.519 --> 00:13:56.960 signing futures contracts next January versus playing in the UFL. Well, I know 203 00:13:58.039 --> 00:14:01.919 that last year when it was the exit fel did there, it was the 204 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:03.759 it was the rookie draft, right, it wasn't the college draft. It 205 00:14:03.759 --> 00:14:07.480 with your rookie draft, and they felt and they had said, like, 206 00:14:07.519 --> 00:14:09.679 well, this is for players that may be missed out and don't have an 207 00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:13.639 opportunity, Anthony, I saw you nodding your head thoughts on that, and 208 00:14:13.639 --> 00:14:16.440 then we'll toss to Evan and that I do. We'll actually talk some players 209 00:14:16.440 --> 00:14:18.679 here in teams to kind of stand outs. But do you think it's important 210 00:14:18.720 --> 00:14:22.440 to just like contextualize what's going on here, Anthony, thoughts on anything Greg 211 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:24.679 said than just kind of the purpose of this draft, if that makes sense? 212 00:14:26.399 --> 00:14:28.519 Yeah, I mean I get why they do these drafts like one. 213 00:14:28.600 --> 00:14:33.799 I think it brings some news to the league. Like I mean, if 214 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:37.039 you look these players on on Google, like the first article is gonna pop 215 00:14:37.120 --> 00:14:39.919 up is, Hey, they were drafted by the UFL. Like that's good. 216 00:14:41.080 --> 00:14:43.399 I mean it may be. I don't want to say it's fake publicity, 217 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:46.320 but you know it's good. Any publicity is good publicity, right, 218 00:14:46.399 --> 00:14:50.799 Like the UFL is going to be on people's radars today, Like I think 219 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:54.200 Greg just had it on the article was a sixty My players are under NFL 220 00:14:54.279 --> 00:14:58.639 contract, so who knows that they most of them are probably gonna end up 221 00:14:58.639 --> 00:15:01.360 being in the NFL. But at least that's good exposure for the UFL to 222 00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:05.919 you know, they have their names next to the players. Now, I 223 00:15:05.919 --> 00:15:07.960 mean again, they're gonna sign them. Probably not, but you know, 224 00:15:09.200 --> 00:15:11.799 again good, you know, any kind of publicity the league can get is 225 00:15:11.840 --> 00:15:16.639 important, especially with it being a very quiet off season where I'm not gonna 226 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:20.399 lie, it's been you know, Mike and I have really struggled to write 227 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:24.320 articles for Sports Illustrated because we're trying to figure out what to right because there's 228 00:15:24.360 --> 00:15:26.200 just not a lot of news going on right now, not a lot of 229 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:28.919 players getting signed, even though two have signed this week, which has been 230 00:15:30.240 --> 00:15:31.759 at least good for the league. At least they're making progress there. But 231 00:15:33.519 --> 00:15:35.600 it's been very quiet, like no players have been signed. It's just been 232 00:15:35.799 --> 00:15:39.240 a very dead off season. So at least this gives us something to talk 233 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:41.799 about. It gets you know, there have been good players that have come 234 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:46.080 out of these rookie college drafts that have ended up, you know, either 235 00:15:46.159 --> 00:15:50.000 doing well in the UFL this year or I've done well in the NFL or 236 00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:54.000 the CFL. So at least there's been talent that's come out of it, 237 00:15:54.080 --> 00:15:56.279 and there's been some good stories from it. There's not gonna be many, 238 00:15:56.559 --> 00:16:00.360 but there's you know, hopefully there's gonna be some players out of this that 239 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:04.240 end up being stars in the league uh next year. And the one thing 240 00:16:04.360 --> 00:16:10.720 I was really interested in with Greg's article is talking about only eight players that 241 00:16:11.080 --> 00:16:17.279 were now that were not not FBS related, which is really interesting because I 242 00:16:17.360 --> 00:16:19.440 think we, I think the league should try to push for more like of 243 00:16:19.480 --> 00:16:23.200 those smaller school guys because there's a lot of talent in you know, you 244 00:16:23.200 --> 00:16:26.840 know FCS and Division two and Division three that are being overlooked and not really 245 00:16:26.879 --> 00:16:32.360 getting those opportunities. They may get more opportunities and I don't know the European 246 00:16:32.399 --> 00:16:36.279 League of Football or the you know, the indoor football leagues or and something 247 00:16:36.320 --> 00:16:38.679 like that, but they really should try to get some of these guys that 248 00:16:38.720 --> 00:16:42.039 are from these smaller schools because I think that, you know, I think 249 00:16:42.039 --> 00:16:45.039 the league should try to get players that are going to stay in the league 250 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:48.080 for a long time, and I think those guys are more likely to you 251 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:52.039 know, maybe become stars and being household names within the league in the next 252 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:56.320 few years, other than these guys that are from like these big Division on 253 00:16:56.320 --> 00:16:59.559 schools like Georgia and Alabama, because they're more likely going to go to the 254 00:16:59.679 --> 00:17:02.679 NFL or if they don't see a future in the NFL Tholl just retire. 255 00:17:03.519 --> 00:17:07.599 Yeah, I don't really know what spurned this week of any week to kind 256 00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:08.519 of do this. I know there's been a lot of talk about that. 257 00:17:08.559 --> 00:17:11.720 I was talking with producer Max, like, I don't know if the week 258 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:15.480 that the college football game came out. I don't play a lot of video 259 00:17:15.480 --> 00:17:18.880 games and college video games, but I know that there's a lot of like 260 00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:22.480 communication with a lot of that stuff going on, Like I know that is 261 00:17:22.519 --> 00:17:25.519 the week to kind of try to draw some football attention. I will just 262 00:17:25.559 --> 00:17:27.960 say in Anthony in regards to just kind of it really has been a quiet 263 00:17:27.960 --> 00:17:30.599 offseason, and I would just say, like, and I know that we're 264 00:17:30.640 --> 00:17:34.599 moving through you know, comm directors here with the UFL, but like you 265 00:17:34.640 --> 00:17:37.319 know, I know the CFL reached out to Anthony and said, hey, 266 00:17:37.720 --> 00:17:41.160 we have a lot of rookies coming in trying out running combines. Would you 267 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:45.160 like to interview them. Anthony did a series of articles about that, Like, 268 00:17:45.359 --> 00:17:48.079 shoot, I would pay if anyone like, hey, we we're doing 269 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:51.400 Saint Louis, come out, We'll give you some interviews. I paid to 270 00:17:51.400 --> 00:17:53.519 go out there, like or do it on zoom for free. Like it 271 00:17:53.599 --> 00:17:57.559 has been very quiet. I mean we're doing the money recaps that Jason Hussein 272 00:17:57.559 --> 00:18:00.880 and I are for the CFL. But yeah, has been quiet, it 273 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:03.519 has been quiet. Not a lot of that. Evan any other thoughts on 274 00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:06.039 this and the place the stands, and then we'll get into kind of teams 275 00:18:06.039 --> 00:18:07.680 here and we can I got an Antey's article we can pull up as well. 276 00:18:08.440 --> 00:18:11.519 Yeah, I mean, I think everything Greg and Anthony have already said 277 00:18:11.559 --> 00:18:15.359 is right. I would add that, you know, in terms of timing 278 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:18.799 right, I mean, you talked about the NCAA game coming out, But 279 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:22.400 I also think with the UFL, you know, starting to do some of 280 00:18:22.440 --> 00:18:26.480 these showcases. I think they've done Saint Louis and DC already, you know, 281 00:18:26.519 --> 00:18:29.359 with them kind of ramping those up, it's kind of time to get 282 00:18:29.359 --> 00:18:33.599 more into a player focused mindset. That's what they're trying to focus on. 283 00:18:33.640 --> 00:18:37.000 They are really trying to get the ball rolling on what has been a very 284 00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:40.440 quiet offseason in the past. I guess it's already been a month since we 285 00:18:40.480 --> 00:18:44.559 had the championship game. And then yeah, I really like what Anthony said 286 00:18:44.559 --> 00:18:48.480 about, you know, drafting more small school players which are FCS and below. 287 00:18:48.839 --> 00:18:51.519 I'm gonna make sure to touch on a lot of those guys today because 288 00:18:51.559 --> 00:18:53.799 that's what I have, That's who I have a lot of in my notes, 289 00:18:53.839 --> 00:18:57.160 That's who I focus on. That's what I know. And Anthony's totally 290 00:18:57.240 --> 00:19:00.880 right. You know, those are the guys who are gonna, you know, 291 00:19:00.400 --> 00:19:04.759 more than likely play in your league because those guys aren't getting the same 292 00:19:06.559 --> 00:19:10.839 number of you know, NFL opportunities, especially like HBCU players. I don't 293 00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:12.799 think there was any of those guys drafted this year, and they you know 294 00:19:12.960 --> 00:19:17.880 fall into the FCS and Division two categories. So maybe, you know, 295 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:21.680 keep pushing that. Like I remember the the XFL. I guess it was 296 00:19:21.720 --> 00:19:26.920 in twenty twenty two, had the HBCU showcase in Jackson State when Deion Sanders 297 00:19:26.920 --> 00:19:30.839 was the head coach there. So just keep doing you know, things like 298 00:19:30.880 --> 00:19:33.160 that. And you know, I mean, it's good to see that we're 299 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:37.000 getting you know, more players involved. At least again, there's probably only 300 00:19:37.039 --> 00:19:38.960 a quarter these guys are a little more that are going to end up in 301 00:19:40.039 --> 00:19:42.319 this league next year, but it's better than nothing in my opinion. So 302 00:19:44.160 --> 00:19:47.480 yeah, and again we're doing this and we're still doing the showcases. We're 303 00:19:47.480 --> 00:19:48.960 going to have a draft Leather. I have dul hat of questions about that 304 00:19:49.119 --> 00:19:52.839 here talking about you know, is there's still going to be more drafts, 305 00:19:52.880 --> 00:19:56.799 Greg said, we presume there's going to be. Anthony, Let's start with 306 00:19:56.839 --> 00:19:59.720 you. I have your article here, a big takeaways, and you know, 307 00:19:59.759 --> 00:20:00.920 we a little team, and we're not gonna do every player here, 308 00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:07.279 and again some of these is you know what results like the ministre results of 309 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:08.759 kind of going through every single one of these, some of the guys lesser 310 00:20:08.839 --> 00:20:11.480 known, Anthony, we are standards for you, and then we can kind 311 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:15.920 of start going team my team here. Well, I want to start with 312 00:20:15.960 --> 00:20:19.400 everyone's been complaining about lebron James and Bronnie James in that situation how he got 313 00:20:19.480 --> 00:20:23.359 drafted, and no one's talking about how Drake Stoops got drafted by Bob Stoops 314 00:20:23.359 --> 00:20:26.359 in here. But no, in all seriousness, I think the big takeaway 315 00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:30.359 is at the big takeaway from this draft is offensive line. I mean, 316 00:20:30.400 --> 00:20:34.519 that was obviously a very big position. I think the tackle position had the 317 00:20:34.559 --> 00:20:38.880 most from any position. I think twelve total got picked, so it's very 318 00:20:38.880 --> 00:20:42.920 apparent. And I know, like and I know I've talked to this before, 319 00:20:44.079 --> 00:20:47.480 like the number one positions that's always a struggle for these first spring football 320 00:20:47.519 --> 00:20:52.440 leagues to find is good offensive lineman. And I think that that's what's good 321 00:20:52.480 --> 00:20:56.960 about these college and rookie drafts is that you can get young offensive linemen that 322 00:20:56.039 --> 00:21:00.319 maybe still needs some development and probably won't play in the NFL. They can 323 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:03.920 develop in the UFL and be able to get better and then maybe move on 324 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:08.839 to the NFL. So it was very clear offensive line was a big factor 325 00:21:08.880 --> 00:21:11.960 for a lot of teams today. I will say, like looking at the 326 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:15.680 quarterback positions, a lot of mobile quarterbacks, which I think is always a 327 00:21:15.720 --> 00:21:19.359 really smart way to go just because again, offensivelignemen are not the strongest they 328 00:21:19.359 --> 00:21:22.960 see, they need a lot of development. So you need a quarterback who 329 00:21:22.039 --> 00:21:26.319 could be mobile and roll out of the pocket and be able to throw on 330 00:21:26.359 --> 00:21:30.599 the run. So I would say just my biggest takeaways was, you know, 331 00:21:30.920 --> 00:21:33.799 big emphasis on offensive linement drafting it is I think twelve tackles. And 332 00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:38.200 then yeah, I love how the quarterbacks it's all mobile quarterbacks, which I 333 00:21:38.200 --> 00:21:44.279 think is a really important thing for the spring football leagues to have is have 334 00:21:44.359 --> 00:21:45.920 those young quarterbacks who you know, they have strong arms, they give them 335 00:21:45.920 --> 00:21:49.400 the run, but maybe there's some development they need there. So those were 336 00:21:49.400 --> 00:21:53.279 my takeaways from the draft. Greg, I'll put your article, like Anthey 337 00:21:53.279 --> 00:21:56.559 said, a lot of quarterbacks take in right, the number first one off 338 00:21:56.599 --> 00:22:00.880 the board. Draft kind of major ways for you here in terms of the 339 00:22:02.039 --> 00:22:07.279 actual players selected. Absolutely quarterbacks. Three quarterbacks going in the first round, 340 00:22:07.319 --> 00:22:11.640 and not necessarily to teams that you would expect. Memphis, we talked about 341 00:22:11.720 --> 00:22:14.880 a lot of holes on that Memphis team. Right, they take a quarterback 342 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:18.000 number one overall, and they don't take an offensive lineman, which was their 343 00:22:18.039 --> 00:22:22.000 Achilles heel on offense until the sixth round. So I thought that was interesting. 344 00:22:22.960 --> 00:22:26.519 You look at Arlington, they take a quarterback in the first round. 345 00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:29.640 Of all the teams, you would think that Arlington was the most set. 346 00:22:29.880 --> 00:22:33.279 If Luis Perez comes back the numbers he put up, the performance he put 347 00:22:33.359 --> 00:22:37.279 up in twenty twenty four, and even if he doesn't come back, you've 348 00:22:37.279 --> 00:22:41.480 got two really strong young players behind him in Lindsay Scott and Holton Naylors. 349 00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:45.839 And yet they take a quarterback. You look at Houston, probably one of 350 00:22:45.880 --> 00:22:48.960 the most quarterback needy teams, and they don't take a quarterback. A DC 351 00:22:49.160 --> 00:22:53.200 takes two quarterbacks, So it makes you wonder what's going on there. Saint 352 00:22:53.240 --> 00:22:56.839 Louis. I had them in my mock draft taking a quarterback in the first 353 00:22:56.920 --> 00:23:00.000 round, just kind of you know, AJ mcair and getting older. Don't 354 00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:03.160 know if he's going to come back. I don't think they have the backups 355 00:23:03.200 --> 00:23:07.079 behind him that Arlington does that you could plug in if mccaren doesn't come back 356 00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:12.559 as starter. So they take Schavon Cordero there. San Antonio doesn't take a 357 00:23:12.640 --> 00:23:17.319 quarterback. You would think somebody like AJ Smith would always be wanting to take 358 00:23:17.359 --> 00:23:21.799 a quarterback every year just to have somebody to develop in that offense. But 359 00:23:22.319 --> 00:23:26.720 they don't. And you know, Michigan takes a quarterback. Birmingham takes a 360 00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:30.279 flyer on Sam Hartman lay to you know, your commanders. He may end 361 00:23:30.359 --> 00:23:33.440 up making the fifty three man roster of the Washington Commanders, let alone the 362 00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:37.640 practice squad. So explains why he went in the ninth round here perhaps, 363 00:23:37.640 --> 00:23:41.000 but a quarterback, quarterback, quarterback? Very interesting to see as Anthony talked 364 00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:45.640 about what quarterbacks went, what their skill sets were, and where they went. 365 00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:48.319 Evan, I know this is a tough question for you, and I 366 00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:52.519 apologize obviously you're involved in player scouting and everything getting signed on. Here. 367 00:23:52.960 --> 00:23:56.039 We've just spent here in the first you know, twenty minutes talking about how 368 00:23:56.079 --> 00:24:00.400 this draft like kind of doesn't matter. It kind of matters as like, 369 00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:03.000 how would you approach if you're someone if you're one of these teams, because 370 00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:07.359 it's not like, well, this guy's guaranteed, right, we can draft 371 00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:08.839 eighty you know, across the board, but you know, eighty players, 372 00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:11.799 like it doesn't hurt us, right, and we're just having the riots that 373 00:24:11.839 --> 00:24:15.440 they want to come, Like, how would you approach this if you were 374 00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:18.839 someone involved in one of these teams? And I guess we'll go from there. 375 00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:22.200 Yeah, well, you're picking from a pool of undrafted players, right, 376 00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:25.519 So you want NFL caliber guys, you know, guys that are signed 377 00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:29.559 the NFL teams, because I mean that's not it's not written in the rules, 378 00:24:29.640 --> 00:24:32.680 right, Like you're gonna take guys that are signed the NFL contracts because 379 00:24:32.680 --> 00:24:36.279 those are typically the best players, even if they're not also technically available, 380 00:24:36.319 --> 00:24:38.359 which I understand that's all complicated. But if I was, you know, 381 00:24:38.440 --> 00:24:41.519 in a position, you know, doing a draft like this that was for 382 00:24:41.640 --> 00:24:45.400 rights and you had to kind of pick from a pool of NFL guys. 383 00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:48.759 I would, you know, use my existing connections in the NFL with NFL 384 00:24:48.799 --> 00:24:52.599 teams to figure out, you know, which guys of your undrafted pool. 385 00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:56.279 I'm not talking about your draft class, but your undrafted pool that you brought 386 00:24:56.279 --> 00:25:02.720 in after the draft. What you know, what guys are going to be 387 00:25:02.759 --> 00:25:04.119 on the fringe is essentially what I'm trying to say. You know, what 388 00:25:04.200 --> 00:25:08.200 guys do you think are you know, they don't have the greatest chances of 389 00:25:08.200 --> 00:25:12.319 making the fifty three. Maybe they're cut in the preseason as opposed to you 390 00:25:12.359 --> 00:25:15.079 know, being a part of the final round of cuts or whatever, just 391 00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:22.920 kind of making those you know, very small I guess changes of note, 392 00:25:22.119 --> 00:25:26.400 you know, just to determine what kind of you know pool you have. 393 00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:30.240 So let's go here. Let's go team by team I thought I thought I 394 00:25:30.359 --> 00:25:36.599 had Here, we go Anthony first, since you're the Arlington Renegades fan here 395 00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:40.720 in that fan you're the reporter, right sorry, standouts here, and then 396 00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:42.440 we talked that you made the jug Bob Soups down all that like thoughts here 397 00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:45.599 Arlington Renegades that any players have know, we'll kind of go around the horn 398 00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:48.759 here for each of these teams. Kind of as we go through, I 399 00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:52.480 make the joke about Drake Stews, but I actually do think that's a pretty 400 00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:55.039 solid pick. Like I think he's somebody who can actually come in and be 401 00:25:55.160 --> 00:25:59.160 that slot receiver for the Renegade, and you know, he has that chemistry 402 00:25:59.279 --> 00:26:02.799 having been you know, obviously he's very close to his dad, so he 403 00:26:02.880 --> 00:26:04.240 knows, you know, the type of offense he wants to run, he 404 00:26:04.279 --> 00:26:07.319 knows how he works as a coach. So I actually think that's a really 405 00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:11.160 solid pick to get him in the in the tenth round. And I think 406 00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:14.240 Soups is somebody, you know, if if Drake doesn't, you know, 407 00:26:14.319 --> 00:26:17.200 if the NFL doesn't work out, he would definitely go to the UFL and 408 00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:21.319 join him. Obviously, Plumbley is the big name here going in the first 409 00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:23.720 round. I actually don't mind the pick. I think, you know, 410 00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:26.880 there's a lot of uncertainty with Louis Perez if he is gonna come back. 411 00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:30.720 But I think, you know, if Plumbley comes in, I think he's 412 00:26:30.759 --> 00:26:33.559 gonna end up being the third quarterback on this team. I still think Lindsay 413 00:26:33.559 --> 00:26:40.000 Scott just has better, better trades and better skill sets, and then Plumbley 414 00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:42.079 has Plumbley it has a tendency of turning the ball over a lot, and 415 00:26:42.119 --> 00:26:45.799 I think that's something that he, you know, really need to clean up 416 00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:48.920 when he was in college and what he'll need to work on when he goes 417 00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:52.079 into the pros. So I still think Lindsay Scott Junior. I don't think 418 00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:55.880 he'll be a threat to him. I think Lindsay still ends up being on 419 00:26:55.960 --> 00:26:59.799 top of him in terms of the depth charts, So I think it will 420 00:26:59.839 --> 00:27:03.440 be really can Plumbly beat out Houlton for that third string quarterback job. But 421 00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:07.400 I like Plumbley. I mean, he's got all the skill sets that you 422 00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:11.880 want. He's got a good arm, he's obviously very mobiles He's fast when 423 00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:14.119 he's out in the open field. He can put on the burners. So 424 00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:18.039 I really liked seeing that offensive line. I think the offense lie was kind 425 00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:21.960 of shaky for Arlington at the beginning of the year. It got better throughout 426 00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:26.680 the season, but I think adding three guys in the offensive line is really 427 00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:30.440 important there. So I like that they kind of focus on the offensive line, 428 00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:34.319 you know, defensively. I would have liked him to actually done something 429 00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:37.559 in the secondary. I you know, I think you know, they got 430 00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:41.240 a good group of linebackers. You know, they get they got some defensive 431 00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:45.160 lignment. But I think the corner in safety was where well, I wouldn't 432 00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:48.720 say safety, I would say corner was their weakest spot on the throughout the 433 00:27:48.759 --> 00:27:51.880 team. And I wish they would have drafted some more corners. I wish 434 00:27:51.920 --> 00:27:56.279 they would have kind of built that up a little bit more because I think 435 00:27:56.279 --> 00:27:59.000 it was really lacking. This was a team that allowed a lot of big 436 00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:02.920 plays in that second and deary, so I would like to see more corners 437 00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:07.079 pick. But I think overall it was a a It was a solid draft 438 00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:10.359 for the team. Coach Craig here checking in, coach signing. A lot 439 00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:12.640 of what you're saying about plum Lee talking about played baseball, So we should 440 00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:15.000 coach Craig. Coach Craig like we did. This was kind of like, 441 00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:19.519 hey, we're doing this and I would like we all wear carrd here, 442 00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:22.359 but kind of like what effort can we do to put it? So we 443 00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:23.839 need to get coach Craig on to getting here to talk through all that stuff. 444 00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:26.559 Greg GT, you plant stand out players from here will were rotate around 445 00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:30.079 and then we'll go to Evan. What stands out to me about ar Lincoln 446 00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:33.759 is the linebackers. They chose three linebackers. I had them choosing a linebacker 447 00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:37.359 in my mock draft. I thought linebacker was a bit of a weakness on 448 00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:41.759 defense for them, especially in pass coverage over the middle. Their linebackers are 449 00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:48.759 getting older, Donald Payne in the middle, so they've really infused some youth 450 00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:52.400 into the second line of defense there. Cale and DeLoach kind of a linebacker's 451 00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:57.039 safety hybrid. People talk about him being like miscast maybe as a linebacker better 452 00:28:57.039 --> 00:29:02.599 suited for strong seats to safe given his size. So he's an interesting pick 453 00:29:02.599 --> 00:29:03.920 there, Amari Gainer out of U and see but Rick Her out of the 454 00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:08.079 Air Force. So I think they did need to replenish and add some youth 455 00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:12.279 to the linebacker corps, get some guys who can maybe cover over the middle 456 00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:15.240 a little better. I mean, we saw so many plays that were just 457 00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:21.200 routes over the middle, you know, easy routes for quarterbacks and for receivers, 458 00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:26.039 and that was what Arlington was burned by quite a bit. So three 459 00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:29.720 linebackers in this draft really stood out to me for them. Havan for you. 460 00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:33.279 Yeah, I mean Drake Stoops, I think is obviously the one that 461 00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:36.400 a lot of people were talking about, you know, because Bob Stoops is 462 00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:38.759 the head coach and you know, he's draft and his son. To me, 463 00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:42.240 this doesn't really confirm that he's coming back next year. You know, 464 00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:47.240 it doesn't really change much for me because right now Drake Stoops is in the 465 00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:51.160 NFL with the Los Angeles Rams. And it's worth noting that he had you 466 00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:53.559 know, a huge senior season or you know, final season maybe fifth year, 467 00:29:55.279 --> 00:29:57.519 compared to the rest of you know, his production during his time in 468 00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:00.599 Oklahoma, So I won't focus much on him. The guy I really want 469 00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:04.599 to talk about is Griffin McDowell, the tackle out of Chattanooga. This is 470 00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:10.640 a guy interviewed during the you know, pre draft process last year. Transferred 471 00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:14.519 down to the FCS level for his last season. He played five seasons at 472 00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:18.799 the University of Florida, has a wealth of experience at numerous positions. Not 473 00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:22.559 only did he play offensive line, but he played defensive line, tight end, 474 00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:25.599 special teams. You know. So he was a bit on the slimmer 475 00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:27.440 side, kind of two hundred and eighty five pounds. You know, not 476 00:30:27.599 --> 00:30:30.359 exactly what you'd want to see for a tackle, but when he went down 477 00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:33.559 to the FCS level, put on some weight, got back up to three 478 00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:37.880 hundred, was able to start, turned into a very good performer there. 479 00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:41.240 Signed with the Kansas City Chiefs as an undrafted free agent. Likely projects more 480 00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:45.880 as a guard at the next level, again, just given his size and 481 00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:48.039 kind of his skill set. But you know, that's an interesting one that 482 00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:52.119 I don't think is going to get talked about enough. And then John Reeves 483 00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:56.000 Plumbley. I was going to talk about all the first round quarterbacks in one 484 00:30:56.039 --> 00:30:59.319 go, so I guess I'll just do that now. There were three quarterbacks 485 00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:02.119 taken in the first round. Obviously, we've got John Reese Plumbley here, 486 00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:06.799 a quarterback out of UCF, Chavon Cordero, quarterback out of San Jose State, 487 00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:10.640 previously at Hawaii, was selected by the BattleHawks. And then Jason Bean 488 00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:15.839 the quarterback from Kansas previously played at North Texas and was drafted by the show 489 00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:18.640 Boats. So all these guys are mobile. I thought that was an interesting 490 00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:21.880 trend. I mean, we talk about, you know, just in draft 491 00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:25.440 circles in any league, you know, mobile quarterbacks becoming more important. The 492 00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:29.960 previous NFL MVP was Lamar Jackson, and I know maybe that wasn't the most 493 00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:33.599 deserving MVP ever, but the idea is that, you know, mobile quarterbacks 494 00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:36.039 are you know, starting to become more valuable. You look at what Jalen 495 00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:38.759 Hurts has done with the Eagles things like that, So they're all mobile guys. 496 00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:42.279 So I like that worth noting that Cordero is the only one of the 497 00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:45.519 three that's not currently signed to the NFL. He was previously with the Seahawks 498 00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:48.519 let go, So that's something to note in terms of, you know, 499 00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:52.759 odds of the guy actually coming to the league. And then if I had 500 00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:56.240 to pick, you know, the most upside out of those three, I'd 501 00:31:56.240 --> 00:32:00.200 probably picked Jason Bean from Kansas just because I think he has the most hour 502 00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:05.039 five starting experience. I've actually seen John rus Plumbley throw around. I was 503 00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:07.880 like standing right next to him watching him go through progressions and drills when I 504 00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:13.799 scouted at Tulane in the AAC Championship game in twenty twenty two against UCF, 505 00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:16.799 So I've you know, got a pretty up close and personal look at him. 506 00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:19.599 You know, he's a guy I can see coming to this league. 507 00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:22.440 I think it would be beneficial for him, just because I don't know if 508 00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:24.480 he's fully ready for the NFL yet, just given where he came from and 509 00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:29.440 just some of the tools that he has. But all three are very intriguing 510 00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:32.160 options. And you know, again it's I guess it's nice to see three 511 00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:37.559 quarterbacks all kind of you know that fit the more modern standard being taken in 512 00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:40.400 the first round of this draft today, Anthony, the last question for you 513 00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:45.039 about the Rennygates here. Obviously we joked the Stoops and Drake and all that, 514 00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:47.599 Like, I don't know, yeah, confirmation Stoops, Like, I 515 00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:52.000 guess we're all setting that rather we operating. Then Greg can co sign as 516 00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:54.559 well if he wants. But like, obviously these are the eight teams. 517 00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:58.880 Stoops back, like, I think at this point we would know if anything 518 00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:01.720 is shaken out. Do you feel differently about that? I mean, we 519 00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:07.640 we asked Stoops and that last media availability for the Renegades like last week of 520 00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:10.880 the season, like do you want to come back or like what's your what's 521 00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:14.960 your what's your future look like? And he said, like, I want, 522 00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:16.680 I want to come back. I think the only thing that's going to 523 00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:19.880 hold him back. I think it's gonna be the financial like it. I 524 00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:22.200 don't think he does. I don't know if he's exactly said financial, but 525 00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:27.519 he's like, you know, there there there's gonna be uncertainty after the contracts 526 00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:30.880 are released that I think it's I think the financial part is probably going to 527 00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:32.839 play a factor in it. But I think he has every desire to come 528 00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:36.160 back. I think he's enjoying it. You know, he doesn't have to. 529 00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:37.680 You know, he always talks about like he doesn't have to go to 530 00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:42.240 the grind of what college is like and going out and scouting and worrying about 531 00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:45.799 you know, are the kids going to class and stuff like that. Like, 532 00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:46.720 he doesn't want to worry about that kind of stuff. He wants to 533 00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:51.279 work with professionals, and he wants to have a shorter schedule. So it 534 00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:53.440 makes sense for him because he'll have his time off in the fall and stuff 535 00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:55.680 like that to spend time with his family, and then in the spring just 536 00:33:57.039 --> 00:34:00.799 you know, three months, go coach the you know in UFL. So 537 00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:02.960 the schedule fits him and he seems to still have a passion for it, 538 00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:07.759 and so I think there's still a chance he comes back. It's really just 539 00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:10.880 going to depend on what is the UFL going to offer these coaches for twenty 540 00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:14.400 twenty five and beyond in terms of salary, because if it's not gonna be 541 00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:16.119 a lot, then maybe he doesn't Maybe that makes no sense for him. 542 00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:21.079 But I mean, Arlington's a good location for you know, where him and 543 00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:22.960 his family is because they're they're around the area sort of, you know, 544 00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:29.159 in Oklahoma and stuff like that. So I think I'm under the assumption he's 545 00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:34.199 gonna come back unless it's something you know, draftic financially that the UFL offers 546 00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:37.280 Greg. Any thoughts on that. I think I saw someone comment to say, 547 00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:40.239 like, oh, the means there's no expansion, but eighteen's were moving 548 00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:44.519 forward and then we'll move on to Burley Birmingham after that. So any thoughts 549 00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:46.519 on that, and then we can segue into kind of thoughts about the Stallions. 550 00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:50.800 You're not you're not gonna trick me into talking about expansion on this show. 551 00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:53.760 Read don't don't even think about it. So no, I agree with 552 00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:59.360 Anthony. I think it's really unfortunate the situation that the head coaches find themselves 553 00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:04.440 in through no fault to their own. I think Bob Stoops is good for 554 00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:07.639 the league, and so I hope that they're able to agree on a contract 555 00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:12.599 and he's able to return. So let's get in here to the Stallions. 556 00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:15.280 You know, the rich get richer here. Obviously, I want to make 557 00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:19.480 sure right thing here and bring up obviously, you know, we just were 558 00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:22.920 in Saint Luisie and all that Greg thoughts and anyone stand out that the that 559 00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:27.519 the the science brought on. Well, they were in a unique position, 560 00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:30.800 very different than I think a lot of the teams in this league in that 561 00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:35.559 they didn't have any glaring weaknesses or holes positionally that they needed to look to 562 00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:38.360 fill here in this draft, so they could really kind of sit back and 563 00:35:38.679 --> 00:35:43.559 take the best players available that fit their scheme. And so you know, 564 00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:45.880 you look at the first two picks, offensive lineman Frank Crumb from Wyoming. 565 00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:49.559 You know, I think he was at the NFL Combine. Some people had 566 00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:52.760 draftable grades on him in terms of the NFL draft. And Monnie Bailey is 567 00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:58.480 in an interesting pick out of TCU or running back. You know. Again 568 00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:02.480 the four offensive lineman Sam Hart, you know, Birmingham is different also because 569 00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:07.480 if you're a player who's on I use the example of Keton Slovas earlier in 570 00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:09.239 the show. And if you're a player who's kind of on the fringe of 571 00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:13.840 signing a futures contract and then you're looking at the UFL prospects and you're like, 572 00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:16.000 do I really want to go in there? I mean, if somebody 573 00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:21.280 has their rights owned by Birmingham, they might want to take that risk. 574 00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:23.760 I mean, Birmingham playing for Skip Holds, You're going to put up numbers, 575 00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:29.960 You're going to be part of a successful team. So I don't know 576 00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:32.639 how much that plays a part in people's thinking when it comes to these spring 577 00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:37.400 leagues, whether it's just they look at the league overall and what can this 578 00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:39.000 league do for me, or they look at a team and say, well, 579 00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:42.880 Birmingham owns my rights. I know they're a really good team. I 580 00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:45.039 know Skip Holds is a really good offensive coach. I'm an offensive player who 581 00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:50.320 wants to improve that certain parts of my game, and I know that he 582 00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:53.039 can do that. Maybe I will take this jump where if it was the 583 00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:58.960 Houston Roughnecks, they might not have. So when you're looking at that aspect 584 00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:04.199 of it from a player acquisition point of view, some of these guys may 585 00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:07.079 find Birmingham more attractive than if they were drafted by another team. Yeah, 586 00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:09.440 I want someone to pull I a Cale Williams. Yeah, I'm not going 587 00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:13.440 to the show bouts here, like I really really gonna have these. I 588 00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:16.079 have been at sandat players from this part here as we go through. Yeah, 589 00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:19.320 I've got two of them. I mean the first one is kind of 590 00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:22.760 the elephant in the room to a degree, and that's obviously Sam Hartman, 591 00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:25.480 the quarterback from Notre Dame, probably one of the bigger college quarterbacks that a 592 00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:30.360 lot of people have watched in recent years. Spent you know, several seasons 593 00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:34.800 at Wake Forest and the transferred to Notre Dame for his final season. I 594 00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:37.440 think, you know, the pick has garnered the most media attention just because 595 00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:42.280 Birmingham has a track record of, you know, developing quarterbacks really well, 596 00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:45.519 especially this past year, not only with you know, the league MVP Adrian 597 00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:50.559 Martinez who came out of Kansas State and signed with the Detroit Lions and then 598 00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:52.440 eventually ended up with Birmingham, but also Matt Carral. You know, i'd 599 00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:55.760 give them credit for getting him in there and kind of I guess in a 600 00:37:55.840 --> 00:37:59.679 sense saving his career. You know, something it looked like he was never 601 00:37:59.719 --> 00:38:04.360 going to play football again with everything that happened between him in Carolina and him 602 00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:07.199 in New England. So Sam Hartman, you know, through for over four 603 00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:12.480 thousand yards and almost forty touchdowns and twenty twenty one at wake Forest, transferred 604 00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:15.440 to Notre Dame for last season and had the highest quarterback rating of his career. 605 00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:19.800 It was about the same. It was just like a tick over what 606 00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:22.119 it was in twenty twenty two at wake Forest. And that's according to ESPN. 607 00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:25.400 And then, like you said, Reid He's currently signed with the Washington 608 00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:29.039 Commanders, And I don't know. He's a guy that I think, you 609 00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:31.599 know, does actually have a decent chance of making it on the fifty three 610 00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:36.280 or at least being a practice squad player and sticking around in the NFL. 611 00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:37.800 So I don't know. If he comes to the Stallions, I don't know 612 00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:44.159 if that's in his best interest, but I'm you know, if he does, 613 00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:45.039 I think, you know, that would turn a lot of heads. 614 00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:47.760 And you know, I think he would play really well in this league, 615 00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:52.119 just based off the college tape. Yeah, And I don't know. It's 616 00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:54.960 weird because I was having a Commander's fan and Jay Danis and all that, 617 00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:59.840 but like there's been a ton of like for basically being that, because we 618 00:38:59.880 --> 00:39:02.039 have Mario, like for being the third string, fourth string quarterback. Like 619 00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:07.480 there's been a ton of pub coming from you know, obviously the commanders and 620 00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:09.360 then you get all the aggregators or theever Like. I don't know if it's 621 00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:13.760 just because he's like good looking, like like I think Mike Mitchell said he 622 00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:16.719 kind of looks like Pat Raffino with longer hair, Like I just I've just 623 00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:21.639 seen this ton of him, Like I I'm a commander's fan. If I'm 624 00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:24.320 a commander's fan enough to know like who's the fourth string quarterback or who's kind 625 00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:27.239 of on the fringe to come on, I'm like, I even I'm like, 626 00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:29.480 oh yeah, Sam, Like I know, like I'm aware of that. 627 00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:31.239 So it's just weird to me that and obviously kind of be in the 628 00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:36.199 notable name there. Anthony thoughts on Sam or anyone else here coming out from 629 00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:40.480 the Science. Yeah, I think Sam Hartman's an interesting choice. I wouldn't 630 00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:45.320 compare him to like the skill set that guys like Alex McGough and Adrian Martinez 631 00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:47.960 had at the quarterback position. I would say he may be a little bit 632 00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:51.199 more of a pocket quarterback. He may be a little more like a J. 633 00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:54.800 Morris Smith type, But I think he could be somebody that could develop, 634 00:39:55.039 --> 00:40:00.239 you know, in the UFL. I don't I don't ever see him 635 00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:02.960 wearing a Stallion's jersey personally. Maybe a couple of years down the road. 636 00:40:04.119 --> 00:40:07.519 I can definitely see him, you know, making the Washington Commander's team as 637 00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:10.440 a third string quarterback. So I mean, unfortunately, I don't think we're 638 00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:15.599 ever going to see him in that. The two guys that really that pointed 639 00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:19.960 out to me was was a Money Bailey, which he had a really good 640 00:40:20.440 --> 00:40:23.440 season last year for TC over twelve hundred yards rushing. Not the fastest guy, 641 00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:28.599 but I think he actually fits the Stallion's offensive system really well. This 642 00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:30.000 is a team that wants to be able to run the football. You don't 643 00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:35.079 need to be a fast running back to be in that backfield for the Stallions. 644 00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:37.159 So I actually think Bailey is actually a pretty good fit for what they 645 00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:40.320 want to do. So if he does end up playing for them, I 646 00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:45.760 think he couldn't succeed in that system. And then Jeff Co for Arkansas I 647 00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:49.599 like him as well. I think he kind of got buried under depth charts 648 00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:52.119 when he was at like Missouri and Arkansas, but he's had some really nice 649 00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:54.280 moments. I think he's a good pass rusher. I think he could, 650 00:40:54.760 --> 00:40:59.239 you know, even play hybrid outside linebacker as well. I think he's got 651 00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:01.599 that talent to do it. So those are the two that I that I 652 00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:05.239 really like. I think Bailey, you know, if he can get into 653 00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:07.440 this offense for Birringham, if he ends up going to the UFL, I 654 00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:10.719 think, you know, he can maybe be that number one running back that 655 00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:15.320 Yeah, I know they're a running back by committee team, but you know, 656 00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:19.840 maybe he could be that replacement for both Scarborough Evan. You want to 657 00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:22.519 move on here, Will I talked to Fenders and we'll circle back to Greg 658 00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:24.960 here. I think he said, I actually had one more play for the 659 00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:28.960 staffs. Yeah, go for it, just real quick down. Holker, 660 00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:31.719 the tight end from Colorado State. You know, he gained a lot of 661 00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:36.440 attention when Colorado State played Colorado. I'm sure a lot of people remember that 662 00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:38.000 game, you know, kind of chippy. I think that was the game 663 00:41:38.079 --> 00:41:42.360 Travis Hunter got injured. But this guy, Dalen Hoker, he had six 664 00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:45.599 catches for one hundred and nine yards and two touchdowns in that game, and 665 00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:49.280 then he finished the season as a first team All Mountain West and second team 666 00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:53.519 All American performer. He's currently signed with the New Orleans Saints. Just because 667 00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:55.559 you know, he's a group of five guy. I wanted to give him 668 00:41:55.559 --> 00:41:59.480 a shout out. But again, we talked about in terms of, you 669 00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:02.320 know, awe of guys actually coming into this league and doing something. He's 670 00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:06.920 a guy that you know I could see just you know, I could see 671 00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:08.199 him in the Stallion's uniform. I guess is what I'm trying to say. 672 00:42:09.159 --> 00:42:13.320 Oh good, I appreciate that. Let's keep with you here. Let's god 673 00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:15.639 defenders, and then we'll circle around again here. Like I said, I 674 00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:19.320 think Greg it tied a couple of quarterbacks taken that thought's what the defenders did. 675 00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:22.119 Yeah, I have four players to talk about with the defenders, and 676 00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:25.679 two of them are the quarterbacks. So I'll start with that. Keaton Slowas 677 00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:29.760 is the first one. I know. Greg's already mentioned his name a couple 678 00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:32.519 of times. Breakout first year at USC in twenty nineteen, I mean, 679 00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:36.440 he looked like he was going to be the future of that program and get 680 00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:38.320 them back on track, kind of like you know what, Taylor Williams ended 681 00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:45.079 up doing breakout year in twenty nineteen and then just never was able to capture 682 00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:49.679 that same energy. He played decently at USC for the two seasons that followed, 683 00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:52.639 but could never really get it together, and then transferred to Pitt had 684 00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:57.599 an okay season there, transferred to BYU, had an ok season there, 685 00:42:57.760 --> 00:43:00.239 so kind of dropped off a bit. But I can definitely see him as 686 00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:05.360 a project guy somebody could develop, and obviously I think that's why he wasn't 687 00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:09.599 one of the first quarterbacks taken in this draft. He wasn't the first round 688 00:43:09.639 --> 00:43:15.320 pick. Interestingly enough, he's currently in training camp along with Jason Bean, 689 00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:20.800 who was the number one overall pick with the Indianapolis Colts, Jason Bean going 690 00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:23.800 to the Showbotes of course at the first round, and then Tanner Mordecai, 691 00:43:23.920 --> 00:43:29.760 the quarterback from Wisconsin. He started his career at Oklahoma, but he was 692 00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:32.880 obviously much more remembered for his time at SMU. In twenty twenty one and 693 00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:37.280 twenty twenty two, he had it combined seven and fifty two passing yards and 694 00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:43.719 seventy two touchdowns over those two seasons combined was good enough to transfer up back 695 00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:45.639 to the Power five level, which wasn't much of a surprise. Went to 696 00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:50.239 Wisconsin, which was kind of an interesting decision, but had a down year 697 00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:52.519 there, only threw for nine touchdowns, but just because of what he did 698 00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:55.320 at SMU, that was enough for a team to want to bring him in. 699 00:43:55.400 --> 00:43:59.840 The San Francisco forty nine Ers signed him as an undrafted free agent. 700 00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:02.159 So, you know, I don't know if either of those guys are gonna 701 00:44:02.159 --> 00:44:05.239 come. I mean, I think if they were to come to d C, 702 00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:07.239 they'd be If both of them came, they'd be probably competing for a 703 00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:12.119 backup job. And then the other two guys I wanted to talk about real 704 00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:16.239 quick, Garrett Greenfield, the offensive tackle from South Dakota State. He's not 705 00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:20.280 the only South Dakota State guy I'm gonna talk about in this draft because they 706 00:44:20.320 --> 00:44:23.280 took a lot of them. He's a three time FCS All American. That 707 00:44:23.480 --> 00:44:27.039 unit was one of the best, you know, that I've seen in a 708 00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:30.519 hot minute. North Dakota State has a lot of NFL ready lineman too, 709 00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:35.119 but South Dakota State as well, who just won the FCS championship. I 710 00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:37.119 think that's why they had a lot of draft picks. But one of his 711 00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:42.920 teammates, Garrett Mason McCormick, was actually drafted by the Pittsburgh Steelers in the 712 00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:46.039 fourth round. And then Greenfield is currently with the Seattle Seahawks, who signed 713 00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:50.599 him as an undrafted free agent. So maybe somebody to watch again. You 714 00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:52.239 just talk about high upside guy, you know, coming out of a small 715 00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:55.440 school. Maybe something there. The last guy we'll talk about for d C 716 00:44:57.360 --> 00:45:00.920 Dallas Gant, the linebacker from Toledo, started his career at Ohio State, 717 00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:06.280 played three or four seasons there, didn't really do a lot, didn't get 718 00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:08.639 on the field much. Then he turned up at Toledo in twenty two and 719 00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:14.039 exploded. Had two hundred and thirty three tackles over the past two seasons combined, 720 00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:16.679 added fourteen and a half tackles for loss and eight passes defended. It's 721 00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:21.000 interesting because the two seasons at Toledo were almost identical. I think he had 722 00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:23.760 like one more tackle this past season that he did in twenty two. Anyways, 723 00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:28.480 he was a two time first team All MAC performer, and the Minnesota 724 00:45:28.559 --> 00:45:32.199 Vikings signed him as a UDFA. What was interesting too. A number of 725 00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:37.400 guys I noticed it was. I think the Vikings and the Raiders were taken 726 00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:39.920 in terms of like I said, you know teams, the NFL teams, 727 00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:44.000 you know, have these guys as udfas. When I was looking around, 728 00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:46.639 I noticed there was a lot of Raider guys and a lot of Vikings guys 729 00:45:46.679 --> 00:45:50.760 that seemed to be in this draft. So again, maybe some you know, 730 00:45:50.840 --> 00:45:53.039 pre existing connections there between personnel people, I don't know, but just 731 00:45:53.119 --> 00:45:58.760 something else to note, Greg Circle that you here thought some of the defenders. 732 00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:02.320 Yeah, I'm looking at my list right now, and I think the 733 00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:08.360 Vikings stood out to me too as a team that I think six of their 734 00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:13.920 undrafted free agents were drafted by the UFL today, So that was a team 735 00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:17.000 definitely that as I was noting them as the draft was going on, that 736 00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:22.880 that stuck in my head. If you're looking at a from a pure talent 737 00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:25.880 standpoint, I think DC might have had the best draft up and down this 738 00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:30.519 list. I think this may be the most talented draft class, which isn't 739 00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:32.480 always the best thing because if it's the most talented, it's probably the least 740 00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:37.119 likely to get these guys into the UFL, so it's kind of a double 741 00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:44.320 edged sword for DC. There. Yeah, I thought that Michael Wiley I 742 00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:46.119 liked running back out of Arizona. I thought was a nice pick. I 743 00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:52.039 think Slovas has a starter ceiling in a league like the UFL, so bringing 744 00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:55.719 him in would be interesting. I will say about Tanner Mordecai, you know, 745 00:46:55.800 --> 00:47:00.960 he comes from a spread system in SMU and as Evan mentioned, hite 746 00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:05.400 a down year at Wisconsin. Part of that was they were transitioning first year 747 00:47:05.480 --> 00:47:09.079 under Luke Fickele and offensive coordinator Phil Longo. They were transitioning from traditional Wisconsin 748 00:47:09.159 --> 00:47:13.760 power football to the spread offense. And I don't think you can make a 749 00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:17.039 bigger transition in one year than that. So I think part of it was 750 00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:22.519 personnel, you know, that was an issue with that transition in Wisconsin and 751 00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:25.159 transitioning to a completely different offense. But he's a guy who came out and 752 00:47:25.320 --> 00:47:30.159 ran a super fast forty at the Wisconsin prote that surprised a lot of people. 753 00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:35.519 So you know, I'm not saying he could be that Derek King backup 754 00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:39.159 role that was really missing and really lacking in DC this year, that offensive 755 00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:44.840 spark, But I could see him in that kind of role where they have 756 00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:50.360 packages for him as a backup in DC coach greg here says fun fact, 757 00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:53.480 Kurt Warner coach fullvis in high school. So just checking in here as well, 758 00:47:53.559 --> 00:47:58.440 here Anthony vous for you for the defenders. Yeah, I'll just add 759 00:47:58.519 --> 00:48:01.079 that I like what they did on de line. Obviously this week they lost 760 00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:06.480 their top pass rusher and Malie Fisher who signed with the Houston Texans. So 761 00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:09.519 Brady McGregor out of Michigan, and then you know, Leonard Taylor out of 762 00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:14.760 Miami. Taylor's three hundred and five pounds, big dude, Kim, you 763 00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:17.000 know, really have a great ability of stopping the run in the middle. 764 00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:21.679 So I like what DC did there. And then McGregor is quick on the 765 00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:24.159 on the outside of Michigan on the edge. You know, again, this 766 00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:29.719 is Michigan's defense was super talented last year on their runs to the national titles. 767 00:48:29.800 --> 00:48:32.960 So you know, maybe didn't get as many looks as if you would 768 00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:36.800 like, but I think he's a guy that can maybe step in and develop 769 00:48:36.880 --> 00:48:38.880 and be a nice replacement for Fisher. So I like what the I like 770 00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:42.719 what DC did on the on the defensive line and defense in general. I 771 00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:45.840 thought they drafted really well, and we talked about that the signings that Greg 772 00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:50.719 had mentioned earlier on you only fourteen here coming and that was the one this 773 00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:53.679 week, Like Greg, is it just we've been doing these spring leaks now 774 00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:57.639 for four years. It's just not enough spots. And then Mike talks about 775 00:48:57.679 --> 00:49:00.440 that a lot. Mike Mitchell kind of in our group chat like thoughts on 776 00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:01.920 that, just in terms of just to kind of take a break here for 777 00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:07.000 two seconds, just about kind of the signings coming from the UFL, I 778 00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:09.519 think really more so than anything else, if you it's the time of year, 779 00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:14.960 right, If you look at the transactions in the NFL, there really 780 00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:17.960 haven't been any for the last month because they're off. You know, they're 781 00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:22.079 resting before training camp. There's no OTAs, there's no practices going on or 782 00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:27.039 anything like that. So you know, gms are taking a break, coaches 783 00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:30.400 are taking a break before the season begins. So I would really expect that 784 00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:34.400 number to go up here as we get into training camp. But you know, 785 00:49:34.519 --> 00:49:37.239 that's part of the argument against playing the time of year that the UFL 786 00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:40.920 did and kicking off the time of year it did, is because you may 787 00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:45.840 get a couple signings at the very end of the year where teams are completing 788 00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:49.280 OTAs and things like that. But there's going to be a long gap where 789 00:49:49.320 --> 00:49:53.199 there's just no transactions in the league period because this is the break time, 790 00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:58.400 the dead zone before training camp begins. So I think that's more of the 791 00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:01.199 case than any kind of spring league fatigue in terms of the NFL trying to 792 00:50:01.239 --> 00:50:06.719 sign these players. Evan, if that's on that or else we can transition 793 00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:08.679 to the Roughnecks, where do you want to go? Yeah, I mean, 794 00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:13.559 I think that's accurate what Greg said. You know, the timeline, 795 00:50:13.599 --> 00:50:16.320 you know, might be something you know, to consider next year, depending 796 00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:20.159 on how many signings, Like we're gonna have to wait, you know, 797 00:50:20.199 --> 00:50:22.679 a couple of months. We're playing the waiting game now to see how many 798 00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:25.239 guys are going to sign, you know, during the NFL cycle, which 799 00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:29.719 you know really goes all the way through I guess, you know, December 800 00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:32.199 January, the regular season, you know, so it's just a wait and 801 00:50:32.280 --> 00:50:37.719 see. But now I agree with Greg Evan standad's here from the Roughnecks. 802 00:50:37.719 --> 00:50:42.320 As we continue on, Yeah, I had two Roughnecks players and I already 803 00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:45.599 pointed out that Their draft was interesting because eight of their ten guys were not 804 00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:51.000 under contract by NFL team, So I'm going to focus on two of those 805 00:50:51.079 --> 00:50:53.880 guys of the eighth. The first guy is Trey Flewan. I think that's 806 00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:59.239 how he pronounced his name. Safety for Middle Tennessee. He transferred up from 807 00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:02.679 SCS Houston Christian. He's also from the Houston area, so I thought that 808 00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:07.840 kind of added a nice tie into the pick. But anyways, his production 809 00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:10.159 was down a bit in twenty twenty three compared to twenty twenty two. He 810 00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:14.320 had over one hundred tackles in twenty twenty two from the safety spot, which 811 00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:20.039 I thought was impressive, five combined interceptions and sixteen combined passes defended over the 812 00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:23.159 previous two seasons. The biggest thing with him is the Tours ACL towards the 813 00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:27.039 end of the season in November. I think it was against Florida International, 814 00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:30.559 and I know that's what hindered his NFL interest. I'm sure he would have 815 00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:36.000 been in an NFL mini camp had he not suffered an injury. But you 816 00:51:36.079 --> 00:51:38.519 know that could work to the Roughnecks advantage. You get a very talented player 817 00:51:38.559 --> 00:51:42.360 who was going to be in the NFL but because of the injury in the 818 00:51:42.440 --> 00:51:45.199 rehab process was not able you know, to attend you know, such events 819 00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:47.800 like mini camps, training camps, whatever, and therefore he wasn't going to 820 00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:52.639 be signed. So I like that. And then the second guy, Malik 821 00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:57.239 Dunlap, the dB from Texas Tech later round pick I think at round nine. 822 00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:00.320 This is to me more of like a diamond in the rough pick some 823 00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:06.079 again another selection that people aren't going to talk about as much. He recorded 824 00:52:06.119 --> 00:52:09.159 twenty three combined passes defended between twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three seasons. 825 00:52:09.719 --> 00:52:15.719 Super great size six three two twenty so pretty intimidating from a frame perspective. 826 00:52:15.159 --> 00:52:19.880 And then this is kind of just a tie in. But he played in 827 00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:23.159 the same secondary as a guy Dadrian Taylor Demerson, who was drafted by the 828 00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:27.880 Arizona Cardinals in the fourth round. And that was a guy who initially stood 829 00:52:27.880 --> 00:52:30.239 out to me as another underrated DV during this process. So the fact that 830 00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:34.199 you're getting one of his teammates who played at the same school, played at 831 00:52:34.199 --> 00:52:36.840 the same system, that could work for their benefit as well, because I 832 00:52:36.840 --> 00:52:39.639 thought he was an interesting player. Let's good the Anthony and I for I 833 00:52:39.639 --> 00:52:43.079 should have mentioned off the top. I didn't want to come of Evan obviously, 834 00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:47.440 the Roughnecks a new GM here, Will Lewis coming in here. Curious 835 00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:52.800 Anthony's thoughts on that, how it would relate to their draft and then stand 836 00:52:52.840 --> 00:52:54.440 out players and I'm going to go get some waters. I'm going to meet 837 00:52:54.480 --> 00:52:58.280 myself. But Anthony thoughts on that and then thoughts on the drafts itself. 838 00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:01.239 Love bred Beck. Yeah, I think the Roughnecks needed to make a change 839 00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:05.280 on the front office, and honestly, they probably need to make a change 840 00:53:05.280 --> 00:53:07.840 at head coach too. I know we've talked to us multiple times that, 841 00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:10.280 you know, c J. Johnson just didn't get the job done this year. 842 00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:15.159 So I'll be interested to see if they still make a coaching change. 843 00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:17.400 But this is a third different GM in the last three years for the Houston 844 00:53:17.480 --> 00:53:22.000 Roughnecks, so you know, I you know, there are probably more moves 845 00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:24.079 they're gonna be made. You know, even if C. J. Johnson 846 00:53:24.159 --> 00:53:28.199 ends up coming back, they're gonna have to They're gonna have to do some 847 00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:30.239 work on that coaching staff because they just didn't get the job done. You 848 00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:32.519 know, do you you know, do you look at the office coordinator Eric 849 00:53:32.599 --> 00:53:36.400 Price, and do you make a change there? You know, did Price 850 00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:38.000 do what he needed to do to get that offense rolling? I don't know, 851 00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:42.559 I I you know, I think this was an offense that really struggled. 852 00:53:42.599 --> 00:53:45.920 You know, I think, you know, the quarterback position. I'm 853 00:53:45.960 --> 00:53:49.559 really surprised that the Roughnecks didn't go after a quarterback in this draft. You 854 00:53:49.559 --> 00:53:52.440 know, I would have liked to have seen them get somebody that they could 855 00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:55.119 develop. But I think they have a good group of quarterbacks right now, 856 00:53:55.239 --> 00:54:00.280 but none of them like really stood out as you know, guys that can 857 00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:04.800 be stars in this league. I think no one. Henderson had some nice 858 00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:07.119 moments, you know, Readsen, it's a veteran quarterback, you know, 859 00:54:08.239 --> 00:54:12.679 you know Jared Garantano, you know, maybe could develop. I think they 860 00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:15.440 were hoping that he would be that you know, prototypical quarterback that could be 861 00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:20.159 the guy. But he couldn't stay healthy. So there's a lot of instability 862 00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:22.599 at the quarterback position. So I wish they would have done something there. 863 00:54:22.679 --> 00:54:25.400 I would say the one player that stood out to me was Malcolm P's with 864 00:54:25.519 --> 00:54:30.519 the Pittsburgh This is a guy that he's bounced around a little bit in college. 865 00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:32.159 He was actually a wide receiver at one point, but I like the 866 00:54:32.280 --> 00:54:36.719 upside ability that he has six six, two hundred and forty four pounds. 867 00:54:36.760 --> 00:54:38.360 You know, he's a tall guy, athletic. I think he can make 868 00:54:38.440 --> 00:54:42.639 some plays on this offense. You know, tight end position was a little 869 00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:45.800 was a pun non attended, but a little rough for the Roughnecks. I 870 00:54:45.840 --> 00:54:49.440 know they had some injury issues there, so it looks like they made a 871 00:54:49.480 --> 00:54:52.039 couple moves at the tight end position to add some depth. Though. I 872 00:54:52.159 --> 00:54:57.320 really like Malcolm and I think he's somebody that can you know, again, 873 00:54:57.360 --> 00:55:00.840 he played wide receiver at Texas, so he he's an athletic guy, and 874 00:55:00.880 --> 00:55:02.360 I think he could really make a difference if he can just you know, 875 00:55:02.800 --> 00:55:06.519 maybe just develop a little more in his blocking. I think he could, 876 00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:09.519 you know, he could move up in this Broadnecks depth chart and maybe be 877 00:55:09.599 --> 00:55:13.599 a starting tight end and could be, you know, a top pass catcher, 878 00:55:13.679 --> 00:55:16.480 somebody like a sou Canela as they question that. Greg just thoughts on 879 00:55:16.639 --> 00:55:25.119 the Refnecks draft definitely different than all the other teams, and they took two 880 00:55:25.199 --> 00:55:30.360 players the only two players in the draft who did not participate in rookie minicamp, 881 00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:34.400 either as a tryout player or an undrafted free agent in the NFL. 882 00:55:35.079 --> 00:55:38.000 Evan talked about Trey Fluellen out of Middle Tennessee State. He's got an excuse 883 00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:43.440 towards ACL in November. The other one was Xavier Benson out of Oklahoma State. 884 00:55:43.719 --> 00:55:46.239 Started twenty seven games the last two seasons, fifth leading tackler on the 885 00:55:46.280 --> 00:55:51.119 team this past year. So you know, it's not like they're taking a 886 00:55:51.199 --> 00:55:53.480 guy who wasn't invited to rookie mini camp because he was a backup and hardly 887 00:55:53.519 --> 00:55:57.280 saw the field. I mean, Benson's going to be an intriguing guy to 888 00:55:57.599 --> 00:56:00.880 look out for and could be a guy who ends up in the UFL if 889 00:56:00.920 --> 00:56:04.599 he doesn't even have any interest in the NFL coming out in May. The 890 00:56:04.679 --> 00:56:08.079 other guy on a spotlight is Droquarius Spivey, their last pick in the draft. 891 00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:13.599 Kind of funny that Houston would take two tight ends. Anthony talked about 892 00:56:13.960 --> 00:56:16.119 Malcolm Apps, but they didn't feature the tight end at least in the passing 893 00:56:16.159 --> 00:56:20.519 game very often, so interesting that they take two tight ends here. Spivey 894 00:56:20.599 --> 00:56:22.800 actually had to sit out in twenty twenty three. He started at Mississippi State 895 00:56:22.880 --> 00:56:28.559 transferred to CCU try to transfer back to Mississippi State in twenty twenty three, 896 00:56:28.639 --> 00:56:31.159 but just before the season opener, he was told by the NCAA that he 897 00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:36.079 was ineligible for the season, so he ended up working out at Mississippi State's 898 00:56:36.079 --> 00:56:38.599 pro day, ran a four six two forty and has actually tried out for 899 00:56:38.679 --> 00:56:43.000 three NFL teams this spring. He was in two rookie mini camps and also 900 00:56:43.079 --> 00:56:46.559 tried out at one of the veteran mini camps. So there's some NFL interest 901 00:56:46.639 --> 00:56:52.000 even though he is I believe unsigned right now. But he's He's got an 902 00:56:52.079 --> 00:56:55.679 interesting background of the guys that they drafted. God bless Greg for the pronunciation 903 00:56:55.800 --> 00:57:00.639 guy here going into this because like I saw some of these, I mean, 904 00:57:00.679 --> 00:57:02.519 the worst is when we do it live. It's like, what's going 905 00:57:02.559 --> 00:57:06.519 on here? So good for that, I'll never forget it, and I'll 906 00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:10.719 never forget you furrowing your brow over diego fejo on. He in the XFL 907 00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:14.880 twenty twenty two draft, and I tried to hop in and save on that 908 00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:17.760 one. And I think he's with the CFL now right that Evan would know 909 00:57:17.840 --> 00:57:22.079 that. I think he moved up north here. Let's go Evan Showboats. 910 00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:23.000 Here, we'll go round. I think this is a good pace here. 911 00:57:23.039 --> 00:57:25.519 We'll get through the teams here and then we can do final thoughts by that 912 00:57:25.920 --> 00:57:29.400 Evan, and we tied Jason Bean and all of that, But any other 913 00:57:29.559 --> 00:57:34.199 thoughts on the Showboats draft? Yeah, this is fun. The Showboats might 914 00:57:34.239 --> 00:57:37.360 have had my favorite pick in the entire draft, and that's this guy, 915 00:57:37.559 --> 00:57:42.559 Jalen Cocher from holy Cross. Great combination of size and production. They have 916 00:57:42.679 --> 00:57:46.519 him listed at six three, two hundred and thirteen pounds, had fifty nine 917 00:57:46.639 --> 00:57:51.440 catches for one thousand and forty yards and fifteen tds. So to crunch the 918 00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:55.039 numbers there, he was averaging about seventeen point six yards per catch and had 919 00:57:55.079 --> 00:57:58.840 to score every three point nine catches, so you know, if you round 920 00:57:58.920 --> 00:58:01.800 up, that's a touchdown four catches or every four times he's touching the ball, 921 00:58:01.840 --> 00:58:06.159 which is ridiculous. I don't care what level that's at. Holy Cross 922 00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:10.000 is an FCS program. Those numbers are just incredible. He's currently signed with 923 00:58:10.119 --> 00:58:13.639 the Carolina Panthers. He's a guy that I would like to see, you 924 00:58:13.679 --> 00:58:15.880 know, in the NFL, you know, maybe breakthrough and get an opportunity 925 00:58:15.920 --> 00:58:20.280 he's gotten uphill battle, but obviously Carolina is one of the teams. You 926 00:58:20.320 --> 00:58:22.920 know, they were at the bottom of the NFL last year, so he 927 00:58:22.039 --> 00:58:25.360 might have, you know, some benefit of the doubt. But that was 928 00:58:25.360 --> 00:58:29.400 probably my favorite pick of the draft. The other guy that I'll talk about, 929 00:58:29.679 --> 00:58:30.760 and this is a guy that I've had, you know, some history 930 00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:36.039 with too, just from the scouting perspective. McCallan Castles, the tight end 931 00:58:36.119 --> 00:58:38.400 out of Tennessee. He was one of the best tight ends at the FCS 932 00:58:38.519 --> 00:58:44.760 level at UC Davis and then moved into SEC competition last year for his final 933 00:58:44.840 --> 00:58:47.719 year. Incredibly versatile player. He was blocking more last year, but he 934 00:58:47.760 --> 00:58:52.960 doesn't have a problem catching. You know, caught five touchdowns on just twenty 935 00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:58.239 two receptions in twenty twenty three, and then he landed with the Philadelphia Eagles 936 00:58:58.679 --> 00:59:02.239 Anthony's team as an undrafted free agent this year. So I don't know, 937 00:59:02.360 --> 00:59:05.480 that's a guy that I could see, you know, sticking around on the 938 00:59:05.599 --> 00:59:08.199 NFL practice squad too. But boy, you know, if he comes, 939 00:59:08.639 --> 00:59:12.840 if both those guys Jal and Coke Graham accown Castles, if they come to 940 00:59:12.880 --> 00:59:15.360 the UFL, uh, you know that that'd be pretty good for Memphis. 941 00:59:15.440 --> 00:59:19.719 We might talk about them. You throw Jason Bean in there, they might 942 00:59:19.920 --> 00:59:22.719 have the best draft class. I don't know, Uh, Anthony, we've 943 00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:25.400 seen here in Chris steven as a comment, you know, show botes and 944 00:59:25.480 --> 00:59:29.079 we're talking, you know, offensive line and kind of all that stuff. 945 00:59:29.119 --> 00:59:32.000 Black thereof thoughts on you know, you would have thought maybe they go a 946 00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:36.000 little bit more of that, But thoughts on on the show bots draft here. 947 00:59:36.679 --> 00:59:39.599 I actually like the Jason Bean draft pick. And look, they've been 948 00:59:39.639 --> 00:59:44.920 dealing with case Cookis last year and he's probably the most statue of liberty quarterback 949 00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:47.920 in this league. Like he is, he is the terrible choice for this 950 00:59:49.039 --> 00:59:52.480 offensive line. And and yeah, I mean I wish they would have drafted 951 00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:55.679 off offensive lineman. But Jason Bean can actually move around in the pocket, 952 00:59:55.760 --> 00:59:59.920 and that's somebody Memphis needed. They you know, Troy Williams was able to 953 01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:02.639 do a little bit more. But you know, Troy Williams, I really 954 01:00:02.719 --> 01:00:06.960 don't He's not really a starting He shouldn't be a starting quarterback, hate to 955 01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:09.159 say it, being could develop and be a starting quarterback, So that would 956 01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:12.960 be a lot of fun if they can. If he ends up getting into 957 01:00:12.960 --> 01:00:15.599 the UFL. I think he would have a real shot at starting for Memphis. 958 01:00:16.039 --> 01:00:19.960 I would say a couple of standouts. You know, Blake Watson was 959 01:00:20.039 --> 01:00:22.599 really good at Memphis. You know, he had a good career at Old 960 01:00:22.639 --> 01:00:27.039 Dominion and then you know, had a nice run with Memphis last year. 961 01:00:27.039 --> 01:00:29.559 He's ran for one thousand yards a couple of times in the last three years. 962 01:00:29.639 --> 01:00:31.400 He's a versatile back, be able to catch out of the backfield. 963 01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:38.280 So I think he would be a good a good compliment to Darius Victor, 964 01:00:38.440 --> 01:00:44.480 who is more of a powerback. So I obviously Watson is a hometown guy 965 01:00:44.559 --> 01:00:45.880 too. You know, havn't gone to school there, So that was a 966 01:00:45.960 --> 01:00:50.000 really smart pick on their part. And then I got to give a shout 967 01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:52.480 out to the IVY League pick there with Mason Tipton. You know, he's 968 01:00:52.519 --> 01:00:55.800 the third all time leading receiver at Yale. He was a first team All 969 01:00:55.840 --> 01:01:00.079 IVY League last year, led the league in touch downs with ten. I 970 01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:04.239 think he's a really solid receiver and somebody that I can see. I don't 971 01:01:04.280 --> 01:01:07.320 know if he would be on the outside. He may be more of a 972 01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:10.719 of a sought receiver, but I think he's somebody that can be sneaky and 973 01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:15.599 maybe help out with that mephis offense. Chris here has a question, Christopher, 974 01:01:15.679 --> 01:01:20.480 I thought Blake Watson is going to be the first overall pick. Thoughts 975 01:01:20.559 --> 01:01:22.840 on that, I mean pigging, you know, I know we tied the 976 01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:24.320 Jason Bean and all that. I guess we'll go back to Anthony on that. 977 01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:28.039 Just that they would go to the quarterback now they're running back. I 978 01:01:28.039 --> 01:01:30.840 don't just in terms of getting players into the league, are you surprised they 979 01:01:30.840 --> 01:01:39.960 would quarterback number one? I would Yeah, I guess I was a little 980 01:01:40.000 --> 01:01:43.360 bit surprised. I mean there's a We've all talked about it. I think 981 01:01:43.400 --> 01:01:46.039 there's other position needs that they had, and you know, the biggest one 982 01:01:46.119 --> 01:01:51.199 being on the offensive line. But I mean it's a sexy pick. I 983 01:01:51.239 --> 01:01:53.239 mean it's one that's going to get people talking. So you know, I 984 01:01:53.480 --> 01:01:57.599 don't I don't blame them for going after another quarterback. Like I said, 985 01:01:57.639 --> 01:02:00.719 like case Cookis is not a mobile quarterback. Like it's getting to the point 986 01:02:00.760 --> 01:02:05.639 now where you know, I like case Cookis. I think he has good 987 01:02:05.719 --> 01:02:08.920 trades him. I just don't know if he's really fit for spring football anymore. 988 01:02:08.920 --> 01:02:12.239 He just he just hey, He's been really on and off the last 989 01:02:12.280 --> 01:02:14.760 couple of years, and I just don't know if I really see that kind 990 01:02:14.760 --> 01:02:17.000 of impact in him. And you know that Memphis offense, they moved the 991 01:02:17.039 --> 01:02:22.199 ball a little bit better with Troy Williams at quarterback than they did with case 992 01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:25.360 Cookis. So maybe it makes sense to have Jason Bean as the draft pick 993 01:02:25.440 --> 01:02:29.960 and if he ends up, you know, heading over to the UFL, 994 01:02:30.159 --> 01:02:32.280 I do think he could legitimately start for this team, and I think he 995 01:02:32.280 --> 01:02:37.599 would add a spark to the offense. Greg any thoughts on that or else 996 01:02:37.599 --> 01:02:40.079 we'll move over to Michigan. Any other thoughts on I think we've kind of 997 01:02:40.159 --> 01:02:45.559 have we done the round on Memphis, not me yet, So sorry, 998 01:02:46.719 --> 01:02:49.880 Yeah, no, it's it's okay. I know it's it's not easy, 999 01:02:50.360 --> 01:02:53.639 you know, just they they had a lot of holes. They addressed almost 1000 01:02:53.719 --> 01:02:59.360 every level of their offense and defense with at least one pick. Again, 1001 01:02:59.400 --> 01:03:01.519 offensive line is something that I wish they would have concentrated a little more on. 1002 01:03:01.679 --> 01:03:05.480 But then again, you wonder is that a position they're going to look 1003 01:03:05.519 --> 01:03:07.960 to fill with veterans instead of rookies. That might be the better play for 1004 01:03:08.079 --> 01:03:12.280 a team like Memphis. I think the one thing they did is they got 1005 01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:14.960 more dynamic on offense, which is something they needed. You know, Jason 1006 01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:17.960 Bean is an athletic quarterback. Blake Watson runs a four to four flat forty. 1007 01:03:20.719 --> 01:03:22.119 You know, you've got Mason Tipton who runs a four to three, 1008 01:03:22.159 --> 01:03:27.119 four to forty. Mckallan Castle's is a threat at tight end. So they 1009 01:03:27.199 --> 01:03:30.159 added a lot of speed on offense, and I think that was key for 1010 01:03:30.280 --> 01:03:34.920 them. And yeah, other than that, Indrew Raim I like at center, 1011 01:03:35.039 --> 01:03:37.480 but I thought they could have used a little more offensive line, even 1012 01:03:37.559 --> 01:03:42.880 if even if they're waiting to sign veterans to start, I think they even 1013 01:03:42.920 --> 01:03:46.360 needed depth across the offensive line. They could have even considered drafting some high 1014 01:03:46.480 --> 01:03:51.360 level rookies to play his backups as well. Well. And not that we 1015 01:03:51.480 --> 01:03:52.679 want to, I mean we've had this conversation, but yeah, like, 1016 01:03:53.280 --> 01:03:57.719 couldn't you sign some of these players? I'm just always confused of like doing 1017 01:03:57.800 --> 01:04:00.519 this draft when it's kind of in the USFL. We kind of have the 1018 01:04:00.559 --> 01:04:03.039 difference of all that. Evan, do you want to tie I guess any 1019 01:04:03.119 --> 01:04:06.119 thoughts on that will to Panthers because yeah, I mean, can you sign 1020 01:04:06.840 --> 01:04:12.480 I just never understand the place of this is supposed, like besides getting pub 1021 01:04:12.760 --> 01:04:15.760 publicity, but then we didn't really publicize it. So we're doing this. 1022 01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:17.480 I don't know any other thoughts on that. Why you wouldn't just sign these 1023 01:04:17.519 --> 01:04:20.119 guys and then we I guess we can move out to the Panthers. I 1024 01:04:20.199 --> 01:04:23.480 mean, you're taking a gamble, you know. I mean, of course, 1025 01:04:23.519 --> 01:04:27.840 I would prefer a draft where everybody was just eligible for this draft and 1026 01:04:27.960 --> 01:04:30.440 not signed in a league like the NFL or the CFL. You just have 1027 01:04:30.599 --> 01:04:34.400 street free agents. Again, I like how the Roughnecks prioritize that and they 1028 01:04:34.440 --> 01:04:38.599 only took you know, two chances on guys that were in the NFL, 1029 01:04:38.800 --> 01:04:41.079 and the rest of their guys would be available to sign right now. I 1030 01:04:41.119 --> 01:04:44.079 think that's a great approach, not saying that's going to happen. But we'll 1031 01:04:44.119 --> 01:04:46.440 transition into Michigan here because I've only got one Michigan player to talk about, 1032 01:04:46.480 --> 01:04:51.239 so it'll be quick. That's their quarterback Rocky Lombardi. This is an interesting 1033 01:04:51.320 --> 01:04:55.159 one. You know, former Michigan State player, so there's that tie in. 1034 01:04:55.760 --> 01:04:59.079 He saw his most playing time at Michigan State during their COVID season in 1035 01:04:59.159 --> 01:05:04.239 twenty twenty, and then he transferred to Northern Illinois played three seasons there twenty 1036 01:05:04.280 --> 01:05:08.719 twenty one through twenty twenty three. His best year there was probably his first 1037 01:05:08.800 --> 01:05:12.679 year in twenty twenty one. You think he had twenty four total touchdowns, 1038 01:05:12.719 --> 01:05:15.639 fifteen passing, nine rushing. This is a guy I've actually seen throw in 1039 01:05:15.679 --> 01:05:18.840 person before as well. Not at an NIU game, but when he was 1040 01:05:18.960 --> 01:05:25.119 training down in Florida with a couple of NFL or other NFL quarterbacks, including 1041 01:05:25.199 --> 01:05:29.639 Michael Pratt from Tulane who was drafted by the Green Bay Packers. Saw them 1042 01:05:29.760 --> 01:05:32.000 throw down in Florida when I was there for a camp, so I've you 1043 01:05:32.039 --> 01:05:35.960 know, seen him in person. Doesn't tremendously overwhelm me. Again, guy 1044 01:05:36.119 --> 01:05:40.039 was taken in the fifth round, so you're probably looking at him if he 1045 01:05:40.119 --> 01:05:43.280 does come of course, he's with the Bengals right now. If he does 1046 01:05:43.400 --> 01:05:45.599 come in, he'd probably be a backup option. But you know, Michigan, 1047 01:05:45.719 --> 01:05:48.840 they played a lot of different quarterbacks this year, so I think it 1048 01:05:48.960 --> 01:05:51.800 doesn't hurt too much for them to, you know, continue looking at depth 1049 01:05:51.920 --> 01:06:00.079 and looking at options, just like Evan and all you guys, Because I 1050 01:06:00.159 --> 01:06:02.679 bring on everyone here because I don't know anything. I'm just a facilitator of 1051 01:06:02.719 --> 01:06:05.280 all this. But like, let it not be last year and Evan like 1052 01:06:05.320 --> 01:06:09.320 well I think you know, first year he threw twenty four. Like it's 1053 01:06:09.320 --> 01:06:12.840 always incredible to me, Like the wealth of knowledge everybody has of this, 1054 01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:15.440 Like you know, God forbid if anyone from the league and I then we've 1055 01:06:15.480 --> 01:06:19.079 got people moving on and everything else. But like this was like us on 1056 01:06:19.199 --> 01:06:21.679 the zoom call and for you know what I mean, Like it just like 1057 01:06:21.760 --> 01:06:25.480 the work that went into this to get and the knowledge that everyone has. 1058 01:06:25.599 --> 01:06:28.679 Like imagine if you had like a stack of these players on the list and 1059 01:06:28.800 --> 01:06:30.159 kind of everything else to be able to dive into all this stuff. I 1060 01:06:30.320 --> 01:06:33.280 just think, like to be able to elevate the coverage of this, I 1061 01:06:33.360 --> 01:06:35.840 just think it would be incredible because I think we do a great job with 1062 01:06:36.039 --> 01:06:41.599 just like us on webcams and sitting outside or sitting Evan's home with everything else. 1063 01:06:41.639 --> 01:06:46.480 But Anthony thoughts on the Panthers here anything from you? Yeah, I 1064 01:06:47.760 --> 01:06:53.760 like their first choice Julian Pearl from Illinois. I think lots of time. 1065 01:06:53.840 --> 01:06:58.880 Michigan drafted a tackle as their first pick with Jared Horse. I think it 1066 01:06:58.960 --> 01:07:00.760 worked out really well for them. He ended up being there starting left tackle. 1067 01:07:02.480 --> 01:07:05.320 I praise him. I think he's one of the most underrated offensive linemen 1068 01:07:05.360 --> 01:07:08.440 in this league. I don't think a lot of people talk about it much, 1069 01:07:08.480 --> 01:07:11.079 but when he was on the field for the Panthers, when he wasn't 1070 01:07:11.119 --> 01:07:14.039 dealing with injuries, I mean, that dude with bullying people. So you 1071 01:07:14.079 --> 01:07:15.840 know, can Julian come in and you know, if he does come into 1072 01:07:15.960 --> 01:07:18.480 and end up playing for Michigan, can he come in and maybe be the 1073 01:07:18.559 --> 01:07:23.039 right tackle. He's a guy that played left end right tackle at Illinois and 1074 01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:27.480 he was I think two times he was on the All Big Ten Honorable Mentioned 1075 01:07:28.159 --> 01:07:30.679 team. He's a really good pass walker. I think he can come in 1076 01:07:30.840 --> 01:07:33.719 and you know, be a bully on that offensive line for Michigan. With 1077 01:07:34.199 --> 01:07:39.559 with Horse, so you know, Michigan was a really good running team. 1078 01:07:39.960 --> 01:07:44.000 You know, obviously they ran through five million quarterbacks, but it didn't matter 1079 01:07:44.079 --> 01:07:45.800 to him. They were always winning games, and I think a big part 1080 01:07:45.840 --> 01:07:50.079 of that was because of the consistency of the running game. So offensive line 1081 01:07:50.480 --> 01:07:55.280 was very apparent to be important to Michigan. I think they end up signing 1082 01:07:55.320 --> 01:07:58.840 three guys, so that's you know, imperative to them to make sure they 1083 01:07:58.920 --> 01:08:01.239 have a strong depth of up at the line position, which I think was 1084 01:08:01.599 --> 01:08:05.880 really a strong suit for this team. And Chris is going crazy in the 1085 01:08:05.960 --> 01:08:09.800 chat and then haven't I already talked about it? But Rocky Lombardi, I 1086 01:08:09.840 --> 01:08:13.400 mean, really like a plus a plus football name here, I think in 1087 01:08:13.519 --> 01:08:15.600 terms of anyone else here, a lot of these phenomenal names, do they? 1088 01:08:15.640 --> 01:08:19.159 Greg got thoughts on the Panthers. One of the things that I wrote 1089 01:08:19.199 --> 01:08:24.399 about in my by the Numbers column out today on ufl board dot com was 1090 01:08:24.560 --> 01:08:27.319 something that I know read you have talked about. Mike Mitchell's talked about it 1091 01:08:27.399 --> 01:08:31.520 either on the marccast or on social media. But it's the idea that with 1092 01:08:32.600 --> 01:08:39.039 the UFL on so many of these markets struggling to attract fans, why not 1093 01:08:39.279 --> 01:08:45.439 do a a draft in which you can claim local players, right, And 1094 01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:47.520 we've had to jump in. We've had a lot of even comments on here 1095 01:08:47.560 --> 01:08:50.159 I haven't read talking about that, which you thought they would do that, 1096 01:08:50.279 --> 01:08:55.439 So yes, you hear, Actually Michigan kind of did that themselves here. 1097 01:08:56.239 --> 01:08:59.039 They they told them that, Yeah, they took JD to play out of 1098 01:08:59.119 --> 01:09:01.600 Michigan State. They took Brian Duley out of Eastern Michigan. As Evan mentioned, 1099 01:09:01.640 --> 01:09:05.399 a Rocky Lombardi, former Michigan State player. Even Isaac Oko with the 1100 01:09:05.439 --> 01:09:11.039 defensive end, is as an undirected free agent of the Lions. So he's 1101 01:09:11.199 --> 01:09:15.359 a local guy right now anyway. So you know, in terms of territorial 1102 01:09:15.439 --> 01:09:21.199 selections, the UFL didn't do that here, but really the teams kind of 1103 01:09:23.039 --> 01:09:27.640 you know, we talked about Blake Watson from Memphis being drafted by the Showboats 1104 01:09:27.680 --> 01:09:30.760 and McClellan Castles out of Tennessee being drafted by the show Boats. Now again, 1105 01:09:30.119 --> 01:09:34.119 these players that may never end up suiting up for these teams that are 1106 01:09:34.199 --> 01:09:40.760 drafting them, but you can get a story in the local newspaper about, 1107 01:09:41.039 --> 01:09:46.119 hey, the show Bolts drafted this hometown guy. It can't hurt. I 1108 01:09:46.199 --> 01:09:49.119 think it's a no brainer, and that mean it's something that doesn't cost a 1109 01:09:49.199 --> 01:09:51.479 penny at all, and you just do it that way. I agree with 1110 01:09:51.560 --> 01:09:55.520 you, Greg, when we're trying to get these immediate people. If I'm 1111 01:09:55.640 --> 01:09:58.079 if I'm in Michigan, if I'm mem Berwie him, if I'm in with 1112 01:09:58.159 --> 01:10:00.960 ever, I'm trying to figure out like what they had to talk about, 1113 01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:03.279 like I mean, and yeah, like obviously you should dive deeper and do 1114 01:10:03.439 --> 01:10:06.239 these other player interest stories. But it's a no brainer in terms of like 1115 01:10:06.319 --> 01:10:11.439 something that that's just easy fruit to pick from that of like, this is 1116 01:10:11.479 --> 01:10:14.520 a story that we can run and talk about Greg. Anything else from that 1117 01:10:14.640 --> 01:10:16.720 we can transition on to who we got the promise next? Anything else? 1118 01:10:17.920 --> 01:10:24.319 Uh no, I'll jump in with the promise here. So again, they're 1119 01:10:24.319 --> 01:10:30.119 a team that didn't draft a quarterback despite having some issues quarterbacks at this point 1120 01:10:30.319 --> 01:10:36.159 that revealed themselves in the championship games. So again, could be a situation 1121 01:10:36.319 --> 01:10:40.880 where they decide to wait out a veteran or something like that, add them 1122 01:10:40.920 --> 01:10:44.439 in a future draft, add them in free agency. Maybe they end up 1123 01:10:44.479 --> 01:10:46.520 being happy with what they have. Maybe they run with Quentin Dormandy as a 1124 01:10:46.520 --> 01:10:53.760 starter next year if they decide against Chase Garber. So a strong defense got 1125 01:10:53.800 --> 01:10:57.079 stronger. Their first two picks are along the defensive line, Game Haul Gabriel 1126 01:10:57.199 --> 01:11:05.560 Murphy, whose brother Grayson also played for UCLA. You know again, offensive 1127 01:11:05.600 --> 01:11:09.840 line since her Hayinesworth center. They've got Alex Molett at center, one of 1128 01:11:09.880 --> 01:11:13.159 the best centers in the league. So interesting that they take a center here. 1129 01:11:13.720 --> 01:11:16.039 So it didn't feel so much to me like they were trying to fill 1130 01:11:16.119 --> 01:11:20.600 holes necessarily on the team other than, you know, trying to get perhaps 1131 01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:25.000 the best talent they could out there that fit their system. I mean more 1132 01:11:25.079 --> 01:11:29.920 so than any other team perhaps is you know, they have a particular fit 1133 01:11:30.079 --> 01:11:33.520 that they look for, especially with offensive skill position players to fit into that 1134 01:11:33.600 --> 01:11:38.720 AJ Smith run and shoot based offense. So that's what you're going to look 1135 01:11:38.760 --> 01:11:44.039 at for those skill position players on offense. Evan thoughts for you on this 1136 01:11:44.199 --> 01:11:47.159 and obviously covering the roughnecks back for you prior and then then now the Brahmas 1137 01:11:47.239 --> 01:11:50.600 and we've had all this Wade Phillips and everything in AJA Smith and everything else. 1138 01:11:50.920 --> 01:11:55.880 Curious, Like I didn't even know how they approached this in terms of 1139 01:11:56.079 --> 01:11:59.199 I mean, I guess Wade sticking around right, We've had all these conversations 1140 01:11:59.239 --> 01:12:01.800 about AJ Smith in the offseason. But curious your thoughts on this is just 1141 01:12:01.840 --> 01:12:05.039 because I feel like, you know the team obviously super well. Yeah, 1142 01:12:05.119 --> 01:12:08.680 well, here's a good story about one of their draft picks. One of 1143 01:12:08.720 --> 01:12:12.439 the guys I was going to talk about anyways, Sincere Hainesworth, the offensive 1144 01:12:12.479 --> 01:12:15.920 center from Tulane. Mark Lilllybridge, who is the GM of the San Antonio 1145 01:12:16.039 --> 01:12:20.279 Bramas, his son, Hudson lily Bridge was an offensive lineman at Tulane. 1146 01:12:20.319 --> 01:12:25.399 I watched him play, and Sincere Haynesworth was one of his teammates. So 1147 01:12:25.479 --> 01:12:30.119 I have a feeling that that's why Sincere Haynesworth was the selection here even though 1148 01:12:30.359 --> 01:12:33.600 they already have Alex Molett, and Sincere Hainesworth is currently signed with the New 1149 01:12:33.760 --> 01:12:39.159 Orleans Saints in the NFL, he stayed local. Hudson has since transferred over 1150 01:12:39.279 --> 01:12:42.920 to Missouri State, which is in the FCS. But I thought that was 1151 01:12:42.960 --> 01:12:45.880 a cool story because I, you know, got up close in personal with 1152 01:12:45.920 --> 01:12:48.479 Sincere Hainesworth when I was doing some scout and stuff at Tulane. You know, 1153 01:12:48.600 --> 01:12:53.479 same game where I saw like John Rees Plumbley in the AC Championship and 1154 01:12:53.560 --> 01:12:56.640 a bunch of other guys you know that have gone on to the NFL. 1155 01:12:56.920 --> 01:13:00.479 The other guy I want to talk about with the Brahmas is Joshua c the 1156 01:13:00.520 --> 01:13:03.399 wide receiver from UTSA. So they're bringing in, you know, somebody who 1157 01:13:03.520 --> 01:13:09.119 played I guess in the Alamodome. You know, at UTSA, that's their 1158 01:13:09.439 --> 01:13:14.319 that's their facility. From my understanding, he's put up great numbers to pass 1159 01:13:14.359 --> 01:13:18.399 three college seasons going back to twenty twenty one, improved every year at UTSA 1160 01:13:18.560 --> 01:13:21.520 during his time there. He was there for five seasons. You know, 1161 01:13:21.640 --> 01:13:28.119 had a I think one and fifty yards receiving last year that was something like 1162 01:13:28.239 --> 01:13:31.119 fifteenth best in the nation if I'm not mistaken at the FBS level, you 1163 01:13:31.199 --> 01:13:34.039 know, so he'll be kind of like a local fan favorite obviously if he 1164 01:13:34.119 --> 01:13:39.560 plays in the UFL. Currently signed with the Jacksonville jo Jaguars. Again, 1165 01:13:39.600 --> 01:13:43.239 a lot of NFL guys here, but he's a guy who again just really 1166 01:13:43.399 --> 01:13:47.159 liked the progress that he's made. UTSA isn't the biggest school, but again, 1167 01:13:47.239 --> 01:13:49.600 if he comes into this league, he'd be a great fit. And 1168 01:13:49.640 --> 01:13:54.039 I think he'd be a great fit, you know, not just for again 1169 01:13:54.119 --> 01:13:56.800 the culture, but the offense that they run. We talked a lot about, 1170 01:13:57.800 --> 01:13:59.800 you know, scheme and kind of what they run. Like. I 1171 01:14:00.039 --> 01:14:05.479 look at Ladiritrad Griffin from Mississippi State, you know, prior to this season, 1172 01:14:05.640 --> 01:14:10.920 Mike Leech rest in Peace was the head coach at Mississippi State, and 1173 01:14:11.079 --> 01:14:14.119 you know A. J. Smith has gone on record talking about running the 1174 01:14:14.199 --> 01:14:17.439 Mike Leach offense, which is a combination of air raid and run shoot concepts 1175 01:14:17.880 --> 01:14:21.199 with the promise, So you know that's something to keeping keep in mind as 1176 01:14:21.239 --> 01:14:26.920 well. And the will hop do you hear on this? Yeah? Obviously 1177 01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:30.119 defense was a focus for San Antonio. Seven out of the ten picks were 1178 01:14:30.199 --> 01:14:33.119 on the defensive side, so I'm sure that, uh, that ass kicking 1179 01:14:33.199 --> 01:14:40.600 they took from Birmingham, we have the we need offense. Yeah, but 1180 01:14:40.880 --> 01:14:44.279 the defense wasn't able to stop the run and stuff like that. So yeah, 1181 01:14:44.319 --> 01:14:46.479 I can see that the and Waite Phillips is a defensive minded coach and 1182 01:14:46.520 --> 01:14:48.960 I know he wasn't one making the picks, but it was very clear they 1183 01:14:49.079 --> 01:14:53.560 they wanted to focus on defense. Gabriel Murphy is a guy that really sent 1184 01:14:53.680 --> 01:14:55.920 out to me. That dude was a stud at U c l A. 1185 01:14:56.119 --> 01:15:00.319 I mean, he was another guy that you know versat can play outside linebacker, 1186 01:15:00.359 --> 01:15:02.920 can play on the defensive end. I think he had eight sacks last 1187 01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:06.600 year for the Bruins. So he's a guy that you know, I think 1188 01:15:06.680 --> 01:15:12.000 he fits Wade Phillips defense really well, and I think he's a guy that 1189 01:15:12.119 --> 01:15:15.720 can come in and be an impactful player. I don't know if he'll be 1190 01:15:15.800 --> 01:15:18.640 a starter, because you know they're they're that front seven is really good for 1191 01:15:18.720 --> 01:15:23.279 San Antonio, but I think he can come in and be a guy that 1192 01:15:23.319 --> 01:15:26.000 can step in and help out. So I like, I like that pick 1193 01:15:26.079 --> 01:15:29.840 with Murphy. Yeah, it's just it's funny again, I know they're nown 1194 01:15:29.880 --> 01:15:31.840 for defense all that. It's like the Mariner We just had the baseball drafts 1195 01:15:31.880 --> 01:15:35.560 and like, I think whatever they draft thirty players, I think twenty seven 1196 01:15:35.640 --> 01:15:39.159 of thirty was like pitching for the Maritors. Like, I understand we have 1197 01:15:39.199 --> 01:15:42.520 a good pitching, but get like and I understand this. It's like different 1198 01:15:42.560 --> 01:15:45.920 circumstances here with all this, but they sure be nice. Okay, Ca 1199 01:15:45.159 --> 01:15:48.079 ca Batlehawks. Who wants to start here? I guess they'll go back. 1200 01:15:48.359 --> 01:15:55.520 Greg thoughts on the battle Hawks. Here. We talked about Houston selecting mostly 1201 01:15:55.640 --> 01:15:59.520 players who are not under contract to the NFL right now. Saint Louis picked 1202 01:15:59.560 --> 01:16:03.319 the second. They picked five players who are not under contract to NFL teams 1203 01:16:03.399 --> 01:16:09.279 right now and could conceivably sign with the UFL tomorrow if the UFL has contracts 1204 01:16:09.279 --> 01:16:11.920 reready, which we don't know about. But that's a whole, other, 1205 01:16:12.479 --> 01:16:16.359 whole other situation. But you know, Bradley Ashmore out of Vanderbilt is a 1206 01:16:16.399 --> 01:16:19.960 guy I watched this year. I thought he was really impressive to me and 1207 01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:24.439 could come in in a backup role at least and developed for a year in 1208 01:16:24.479 --> 01:16:27.680 Saint Louis. And you know, again, starter ceiling. You know, 1209 01:16:27.760 --> 01:16:30.159 that's kind of what you look at for these guys in the rookie draft. 1210 01:16:30.359 --> 01:16:32.720 They may not come in and start right away, but what's their ceiling? 1211 01:16:32.840 --> 01:16:38.039 And I think some of these guys do have that ceiling to them. Whether 1212 01:16:38.119 --> 01:16:42.119 they ever get there or not, who knows, but they have that ability. 1213 01:16:42.199 --> 01:16:45.560 Cody Schrader, another local guy out of Missouri running back, is very 1214 01:16:45.680 --> 01:16:50.279 talented. Saint Louis has some good running backs right now. They've got Mateo 1215 01:16:50.359 --> 01:16:55.880 Durant who is hurt early, would expect him back healthy this year. Jacob 1216 01:16:55.920 --> 01:16:58.920 Sailors is now in the NFL with the New York Giants, so perhaps they're 1217 01:16:58.960 --> 01:17:03.159 looking at needing to replace his production or at least a backup spot to Durant 1218 01:17:03.359 --> 01:17:08.960 and Wayne Goleman this year so Schrader could certainly do that and more. And 1219 01:17:09.000 --> 01:17:12.720 then Chavon Cordero talked about at the top of the show, how I had 1220 01:17:12.760 --> 01:17:15.520 to take a quarterback in my mock draft. They take a quarterback first round. 1221 01:17:15.520 --> 01:17:17.720 I think that's going to surprise a lot of people. Doesn't really surprise 1222 01:17:17.840 --> 01:17:21.920 me with aj McCarron, and you know, the decision he's on year to 1223 01:17:23.000 --> 01:17:25.399 year, right, I mean, he's he could hang him up just as 1224 01:17:25.399 --> 01:17:28.279 easily as he could come back in twenty twenty five. So you're going to 1225 01:17:28.319 --> 01:17:31.800 start needing to develop young quarterbacks behind him. Manny Wilkins is not going to 1226 01:17:31.800 --> 01:17:34.720 be the answer. Brandon Silver's sorry, Reid is not going to be the 1227 01:17:34.800 --> 01:17:42.840 answer at quarterback to replace mccaren So you know, you've got to start compiling 1228 01:17:42.960 --> 01:17:47.600 some bodies there, whether they're rookies like Cordero or players that you bring in 1229 01:17:48.119 --> 01:17:53.159 that are a little more veteran, but that's a position that's kind of a 1230 01:17:53.239 --> 01:17:58.039 sneaky need for them here in this draft. Evan thoughts, Yeah, I've 1231 01:17:58.079 --> 01:18:01.399 got three guys. I'll talk about Cody Schrader to the running back from Missouri. 1232 01:18:01.479 --> 01:18:05.079 I mean, we talked about like kind of fan favorite with Josh Cephis 1233 01:18:05.199 --> 01:18:09.520 and UTSA in that connection. I think Cody Schrader, if he comes to 1234 01:18:09.560 --> 01:18:12.600 this league will be the ultimate fan favorite, just knowing you know, how 1235 01:18:13.279 --> 01:18:16.840 big and deep the Saint Louis fan base is great story. You know, 1236 01:18:17.359 --> 01:18:21.239 played at D two Truman State, which is another school in Missouri, so 1237 01:18:21.359 --> 01:18:26.079 he stayed local his entire football career, but wasn't always that, you know, 1238 01:18:26.159 --> 01:18:28.920 the big school missoo. But when he did get up there, you 1239 01:18:29.000 --> 01:18:30.560 know, to the power five level in the SEC, he did some great 1240 01:18:30.600 --> 01:18:33.560 things. They were talking about him a ton last year. Again, his 1241 01:18:33.680 --> 01:18:39.680 journey's been really well documented. He's currently under contract with the San Francisco forty 1242 01:18:39.760 --> 01:18:42.560 nine ers, so we'll see what happens to him. You know, that's 1243 01:18:42.600 --> 01:18:45.359 a guy I don't know if he's going to come or not, but kind 1244 01:18:45.399 --> 01:18:47.680 of hoping that he does again because it would just add a great you know, 1245 01:18:47.760 --> 01:18:51.000 we talk about storylines in this league. That would be a fantastic one. 1246 01:18:51.880 --> 01:18:57.119 Jelanie Baker, the wide receiver from Limestone. I know Cody Schrader. 1247 01:18:57.159 --> 01:19:00.640 I talked about him playing D two. This was technically the only Division two 1248 01:19:00.680 --> 01:19:05.199 players selected in the draft. Just the definition at that level at least of 1249 01:19:05.239 --> 01:19:09.840 being a number one option. Seventy five catches, one thousand eighty nine yards, 1250 01:19:09.880 --> 01:19:14.359 fourteen touchdowns last year, you know, again made about a five hundred 1251 01:19:14.439 --> 01:19:17.560 yard jump from the season before. You know, I think he could come 1252 01:19:17.600 --> 01:19:21.079 to this league just because I mean, well maybe not, just because again, 1253 01:19:21.119 --> 01:19:25.439 he was a very highly productive receiver. He's got the ideal size you'd 1254 01:19:25.479 --> 01:19:28.239 want, just under two hundred pounds I think sixty one six to two. 1255 01:19:29.159 --> 01:19:30.840 But he did well in kick returns last year. And I know, again 1256 01:19:30.880 --> 01:19:33.399 it's the Division two level, so maybe you take that with a grain of 1257 01:19:33.520 --> 01:19:36.600 salt, but you could see this guy getting worked in on special teams, 1258 01:19:36.960 --> 01:19:40.399 just kind of like a guy, you know, Juwa Minigo, who was 1259 01:19:40.479 --> 01:19:44.359 a D three guy who had to play in Mexico before he came to the 1260 01:19:44.479 --> 01:19:46.880 UFL. This season with Arlington kind of worked his way up. Again. 1261 01:19:46.960 --> 01:19:50.920 You just look for those things, right. So there's Jelanie Baker. He 1262 01:19:51.079 --> 01:19:55.199 was signed by the Baltimore Ravens as a UDFA. Don't know if he's still 1263 01:19:55.279 --> 01:19:58.720 with them or not, but I know he did have an NFL contract. 1264 01:19:59.039 --> 01:20:01.319 And then the last out talk about is another receiver that they took, Jayden 1265 01:20:01.439 --> 01:20:06.000 Junky I think is how he pronounced his last name, Jankie Yankee, Johnky 1266 01:20:06.079 --> 01:20:11.720 something like that. Anyway, again, another South Dakota State guy I talked 1267 01:20:11.720 --> 01:20:15.000 about, Garrett Greenfield. I think Isaiah Staalberg was the other one, and 1268 01:20:15.119 --> 01:20:20.079 then Jayden here. He was slightly more productive in twenty twenty three than his 1269 01:20:20.199 --> 01:20:24.960 twin brother Jackson. Again, that's another well documented story. If you watch 1270 01:20:25.119 --> 01:20:27.760 SCS football, he has a twin brother that plays on the same team. 1271 01:20:27.960 --> 01:20:30.239 They played the same position. They were both undrafted in the NFL and both 1272 01:20:30.279 --> 01:20:33.560 signed with the Houston Texans, so they've stuck together. Would be interesting to 1273 01:20:33.640 --> 01:20:38.399 see, you know, maybe if Jayden comes to the UFL with Saint Louis, 1274 01:20:38.520 --> 01:20:40.880 maybe they bring his brother with them, you know, and I know 1275 01:20:41.039 --> 01:20:45.399 that's not he wasn't drafted obviously, but again just down the line if he 1276 01:20:45.520 --> 01:20:48.760 chooses to do so. He was again slightly more productive than him last year, 1277 01:20:48.880 --> 01:20:53.800 fell just short of a thousand yard season, but had double digit touchdowns 1278 01:20:53.840 --> 01:20:56.319 for the first time in his career at South Dakota State, which he was 1279 01:20:56.399 --> 01:20:59.319 there for five years, I think. And then, like I said, 1280 01:20:59.399 --> 01:21:01.760 signed by the Hues. Saint Texas is UDFA, so again, all Saint 1281 01:21:01.840 --> 01:21:04.840 Louis just had a lot of you know, cool story type of guys, 1282 01:21:04.880 --> 01:21:08.600 and I always like that. I think that's a good kind of way to 1283 01:21:08.720 --> 01:21:12.199 round things out because this is the last team that we're talking about. But 1284 01:21:12.319 --> 01:21:15.359 again, like Greg was saying, you know, five guys that aren't under 1285 01:21:15.399 --> 01:21:19.680 contract with the NFL. So in terms of you know players potentially you know, 1286 01:21:19.800 --> 01:21:23.840 suiting up uh in twenty twenty five, you know, Saint Louis might 1287 01:21:23.880 --> 01:21:28.199 have a higher chance, a higher success rate, I should say with this 1288 01:21:28.359 --> 01:21:31.800 draft compared to other teams because of that final thoughts here on this team, 1289 01:21:31.960 --> 01:21:34.479 Anthony, and then we'll do a final go home question, then we'll get 1290 01:21:34.479 --> 01:21:39.119 out of here. I appreciate it. Everyone's time. Yeah, so Cordero, 1291 01:21:39.439 --> 01:21:43.279 I think of the tape that I've watched from quarterbacks that were drafted today, 1292 01:21:43.399 --> 01:21:45.640 like looking at them, Cort Darrow's was the most fun to watch, 1293 01:21:45.760 --> 01:21:49.520 and I think he's somebody that I think he's the quarterback that I think Saint 1294 01:21:49.600 --> 01:21:55.760 Louis was hoping Manny Wilkins would have been, because I think after watching many 1295 01:21:55.920 --> 01:22:00.479 start this year, I think there are legitimate concerns about that backup quarterback position. 1296 01:22:00.600 --> 01:22:01.760 So I thought it was a really smart move to get Cordeo. He 1297 01:22:01.920 --> 01:22:04.439 was the he's the all time lady patterer in the Mountain West. But the 1298 01:22:04.479 --> 01:22:09.079 one thing, the one really good thing about Cordero is the last couple of 1299 01:22:09.119 --> 01:22:13.279 years he's improved his efficiency and like protecting the football. You know, his 1300 01:22:13.399 --> 01:22:15.520 turnovers cut down. He was making better decisions. And I think that's a 1301 01:22:15.600 --> 01:22:19.239 really big deal when it comes down to the BattleHawks, because that's a really 1302 01:22:19.319 --> 01:22:23.199 big thing with Aj mccaerron is that he protects the ball well. But you 1303 01:22:23.279 --> 01:22:26.520 know, Wilkins turned the ball over a few times, so they need a 1304 01:22:26.600 --> 01:22:30.920 quarterback in there who is mobile. He I mean, Cordero is super fast 1305 01:22:30.960 --> 01:22:33.199 when he's in the open fields. He's a lot like Plumbley. So I 1306 01:22:33.279 --> 01:22:36.000 think he's a guy that can come in and I think he you know, 1307 01:22:36.119 --> 01:22:40.680 if AJ mccartt doesn't come back, I think Cordero can compete for the starting 1308 01:22:40.800 --> 01:22:44.239 job and then Cody Schrader. Obviously it's a big name here that he was 1309 01:22:44.279 --> 01:22:46.960 a Dope Walker finalist last year. Dude is quick. I mean, he 1310 01:22:47.079 --> 01:22:49.279 can, he can do a lot of things in the offense, and I 1311 01:22:49.359 --> 01:22:53.199 think he could be somebody that maybe they were hoping Max boor he would be. 1312 01:22:53.560 --> 01:22:56.479 I think he there's a little versatility to him. And you know, 1313 01:22:56.560 --> 01:23:00.159 Trader, it's kind of similar to the Memphis Showboats pick with with Blake Watson, 1314 01:23:00.279 --> 01:23:03.439 and you know, getting a guy that is local that can get a 1315 01:23:03.479 --> 01:23:08.079 local name in there. And Trader is a massive name with the Missouri Tigers. 1316 01:23:08.159 --> 01:23:11.640 So he's a guy that I think could definitely start and be a really 1317 01:23:11.680 --> 01:23:17.479 good replacement for Jacob Slayers. Well, this is good eight teams here moving 1318 01:23:17.560 --> 01:23:20.399 through. I think we did a pretty good risk pace. I appreciated a 1319 01:23:20.479 --> 01:23:24.399 deep dive on all those. Let's go around before we get out in Greg, 1320 01:23:24.520 --> 01:23:28.119 I know this is you know, we've tied about the top and kind 1321 01:23:28.159 --> 01:23:31.119 of different circumstances for this. But who do you feel highest on in terms 1322 01:23:31.159 --> 01:23:34.199 of what they did today of these eight teams in terms of like this is 1323 01:23:34.239 --> 01:23:36.560 a smart way to approach the draft. Before we get out of here, 1324 01:23:36.640 --> 01:23:42.880 we'll go around. Well, I mean really, Houston and Saint Louis are 1325 01:23:42.880 --> 01:23:46.840 the only ones that approach the draft differently than anybody else. So you know, 1326 01:23:47.560 --> 01:23:54.239 we won't know the results of that approach until January. February when training 1327 01:23:54.319 --> 01:23:57.680 camp opens and we can count how many players from this draft or in each 1328 01:23:57.760 --> 01:24:00.680 team's camp. But I think this is, you know, this is the 1329 01:24:00.720 --> 01:24:05.720 first time the UFL is holding a draft of this nature where you know, 1330 01:24:06.359 --> 01:24:11.640 undrafted free agents under contract to the NFL are available to be drafted. So 1331 01:24:12.039 --> 01:24:15.399 I think everybody's kind of flying blind a little bit here and kind of feeling 1332 01:24:15.439 --> 01:24:18.520 around in the dark and really not sure how to approach this. I think 1333 01:24:18.680 --> 01:24:23.119 next year, when we can actually look at this list and say, gee, 1334 01:24:23.359 --> 01:24:26.640 zero players from this team are in the UFL, I think you may 1335 01:24:26.760 --> 01:24:30.239 see gms then next year sort of adjust their game plan off of that. 1336 01:24:30.920 --> 01:24:33.239 But I think at this point, you know, taking best players available, 1337 01:24:33.680 --> 01:24:36.600 doing that sort of thing. I can't really fault them for doing that. 1338 01:24:36.760 --> 01:24:42.800 Just taking flyers on these guys is really what they're doing, and unfortunately they're 1339 01:24:43.079 --> 01:24:45.039 they're kind of hoping the guys that they drafted are not good enough for the 1340 01:24:45.119 --> 01:24:48.319 NFL, which is kind of a weird thing to hope if you're a general 1341 01:24:48.399 --> 01:24:53.000 manager taking these players, but you really do want them. I do wonder 1342 01:24:53.720 --> 01:24:57.520 what kind of communication, if any, there were with gms and agents. 1343 01:24:57.560 --> 01:25:00.600 I know you asked Evan earlier. How would you approach this draft from a 1344 01:25:00.720 --> 01:25:03.319 from a personnel standpoint? You know, if I'm a GM and I know 1345 01:25:03.479 --> 01:25:08.760 that there's a lot on the plate of these UFL gms, they're responsible for 1346 01:25:08.800 --> 01:25:12.439 sifting through all twelve thousand of these players basically on their own unless they get 1347 01:25:12.600 --> 01:25:15.520 help from the coaching staffs, which they're probably not going to get because they're 1348 01:25:15.520 --> 01:25:18.439 no longer under contract. But you know, I'd be reaching out to agents 1349 01:25:18.479 --> 01:25:21.319 of these players that I have on my draft board, and I'd be saying, 1350 01:25:21.399 --> 01:25:26.199 hey, you're Blake Watson's agent, is there any chance that this guy 1351 01:25:26.399 --> 01:25:29.560 could consider the UFL if the NFL doesn't work out? And if they say 1352 01:25:29.640 --> 01:25:31.439 flat no, he's off my draft board. Like, I'm not going to 1353 01:25:31.520 --> 01:25:35.640 bother drafting him if his agent is telling me, look, i've talked to 1354 01:25:35.720 --> 01:25:40.399 him there, we're not interested in that option. So I'd be reaching out 1355 01:25:40.439 --> 01:25:44.119 to agents and saying, you know, hey, if I draft your guy, 1356 01:25:44.359 --> 01:25:46.399 is there any possibility that he might come and play in the UFL, 1357 01:25:48.039 --> 01:25:50.960 Because otherwise you're really throwing darts here in a lot of ways. You know, 1358 01:25:51.079 --> 01:25:56.159 you're taking guys who maybe scheme fits, but you don't really have any 1359 01:25:56.239 --> 01:25:59.760 idea if they're even interested in in the UFL, and that's that's a very 1360 01:25:59.800 --> 01:26:02.760 dificult proposition to be tasked with for these gms. Well, and I think 1361 01:26:02.800 --> 01:26:06.279 that's a perfect seguay to talk to Evan because and I know that you and 1362 01:26:06.399 --> 01:26:10.199 Sam and we talk a lot in the in our group chat about you know, 1363 01:26:10.239 --> 01:26:12.399 the arena and the IFL, and like, how do you get these 1364 01:26:12.439 --> 01:26:14.840 players? And you know, it's the same thing here, like we got 1365 01:26:14.880 --> 01:26:16.479 the NFL. Okay, you want to go to the UFL. You're doing 1366 01:26:16.520 --> 01:26:20.840 that same kind of convincing role whatever. So I guess segue off of Greg's 1367 01:26:20.960 --> 01:26:24.600 comments, but then kind of just you know when I initially brought that, 1368 01:26:24.680 --> 01:26:26.880 But I'm curious your thoughts on that too, because I think it's interesting. 1369 01:26:27.439 --> 01:26:30.079 Yeah, well, Greg's spot on. I mean my number one thing. 1370 01:26:30.199 --> 01:26:34.119 You know, when you're initially contacting the player you're interested, you got to 1371 01:26:34.199 --> 01:26:36.880 gauge the level of interest, like, hey, would you actually come and 1372 01:26:36.960 --> 01:26:41.399 play in our league and be interested in signing a contract, Because there's a 1373 01:26:41.479 --> 01:26:44.640 good number of guys, especially guys that have touched the NFL, that are 1374 01:26:44.680 --> 01:26:47.199 still clinging on to that hope of making a roster or getting a camp invite 1375 01:26:47.279 --> 01:26:49.079 or whatever. They're not going to do it. They're like, well, 1376 01:26:49.119 --> 01:26:51.239 I don't want to do this, you know, my focus is on the 1377 01:26:51.479 --> 01:26:56.960 NFL or again, like we're talking about here, maybe UFL. I've heard 1378 01:26:57.000 --> 01:27:00.239 some things about that. You know, I always say player education is important, 1379 01:27:00.319 --> 01:27:03.720 you know, having guys understand what options there are out there, how 1380 01:27:03.800 --> 01:27:06.800 much money, you know, you make schedules, things like that. There's 1381 01:27:06.840 --> 01:27:10.439 a lot that goes into it. But yeah, I mean, like Greg 1382 01:27:10.520 --> 01:27:14.359 said, it's a lot easier to kind of trim down this giant pool of 1383 01:27:14.439 --> 01:27:17.840 thousands of players if you just find the guys you're really interested in and then 1384 01:27:17.880 --> 01:27:20.600 get in contact with them or their agent and be like, hey, you 1385 01:27:20.680 --> 01:27:24.760 know, would you actually consider doing this? And if half of them say 1386 01:27:24.840 --> 01:27:27.840 no, well then you've chopped that in half, so you can be you 1387 01:27:27.920 --> 01:27:30.239 know, way more condensed and more precise, I guess in your process. 1388 01:27:30.359 --> 01:27:33.880 But to answer your original question, read, I mean in terms of you 1389 01:27:33.960 --> 01:27:36.960 know, who I thought had you know, the best or most productive draft 1390 01:27:38.319 --> 01:27:41.800 for me, it's between Memphis and DC. Again DC, just because I 1391 01:27:41.880 --> 01:27:44.680 love, you know, von Hutchins approach what he does. I know he 1392 01:27:44.800 --> 01:27:47.479 has a lot of connections. He's very vocal and open and honest about you 1393 01:27:47.560 --> 01:27:50.600 know, what they're doing from a personnel standpoint, which I appreciate. And 1394 01:27:50.680 --> 01:27:55.560 then Memphis just had a lot of flashy guys. Again not saying that those 1395 01:27:55.600 --> 01:27:58.520 guys are going to come play. It's not a guarantee, but you like 1396 01:27:58.640 --> 01:28:01.319 the upside there. And then you know, I look at like the Roughnecks 1397 01:28:01.359 --> 01:28:03.960 and the battle Hawks, like Greg and the rest of us have already talked 1398 01:28:03.960 --> 01:28:09.039 about, you know, taking guys you know that aren't under contract with the 1399 01:28:09.159 --> 01:28:12.640 NFL, which means that they have a higher chance of coming into the league. 1400 01:28:12.720 --> 01:28:15.359 But again, you know, maybe that doesn't work out, and maybe, 1401 01:28:15.439 --> 01:28:18.319 you know, the guys that Houston brings in just aren't talented enough to 1402 01:28:18.399 --> 01:28:21.039 make the cut, you know, because they were overlooked in the NFL. 1403 01:28:21.119 --> 01:28:24.760 And usually that's for a reason. A lot of times, you know, 1404 01:28:24.920 --> 01:28:28.520 NFL personnel people, they don't get things wrong, you know, the scouts, 1405 01:28:28.560 --> 01:28:30.720 the gms. I mean, you hear about, you know, some 1406 01:28:30.840 --> 01:28:34.000 of the more highly publicized stuff like a Johnny Manziel situation or something, but 1407 01:28:34.079 --> 01:28:38.119 with a lot of the you know, small or more intricate things when it 1408 01:28:38.199 --> 01:28:40.800 comes to scouting, they don't miss on a lot of players, Like the 1409 01:28:40.840 --> 01:28:43.720 guys that you know should be in the NFL are in the NFL and they're 1410 01:28:43.720 --> 01:28:47.720 there for good reasons. So I'll leave it at that, Anthony, take 1411 01:28:47.800 --> 01:28:50.239 us home here. Yeah, it is like Greg said, it's kind of 1412 01:28:50.319 --> 01:28:55.239 like in binding. Hey if you if you're dating, the dance doesn't work 1413 01:28:55.279 --> 01:28:57.680 out, then like I'm standing by here. Really it feels like that a 1414 01:28:57.720 --> 01:29:00.560 little bit here anti final thoughts, like kind of what team you the approach 1415 01:29:00.600 --> 01:29:03.319 to you today? Yeah, So I like what Memphis and Saint Louis did 1416 01:29:03.359 --> 01:29:08.239 offensively. I thought they had the strongest rafts on the offensive side. Really 1417 01:29:08.279 --> 01:29:11.920 like what san Antonio did on the on the defense defensive side of things. 1418 01:29:12.720 --> 01:29:15.279 I would say, like, if they can make any changes to this college 1419 01:29:15.359 --> 01:29:18.640 rookie draft, they should separate into two, Like they should do one in 1420 01:29:18.760 --> 01:29:24.239 the summer where whoever is available, like actually available and not under contract with 1421 01:29:24.279 --> 01:29:26.800 the NFL, like have them be available for it, and then do a 1422 01:29:26.920 --> 01:29:29.800 second one when cuts are made and stuff like that. I know that's typically 1423 01:29:29.800 --> 01:29:32.600 what they did with the veterans, but maybe you do one with just rookies 1424 01:29:32.640 --> 01:29:39.359 that were cut by by teams by NFL teams are are still available and you 1425 01:29:39.399 --> 01:29:42.319 can put them in a pool and then do if you need to do a 1426 01:29:42.359 --> 01:29:45.640 third one, do a third one. I mean the spring these spring leeks 1427 01:29:45.680 --> 01:29:48.119 typically love doing you know, like three to five drafts in the off season, 1428 01:29:48.159 --> 01:29:53.000 because one, it is a publicity, which I know read you don't 1429 01:29:53.000 --> 01:29:57.119 think it is, but I think it's. I think it's kind of I 1430 01:29:57.199 --> 01:30:00.560 think it can be. I mean, you did, you did show off 1431 01:30:00.600 --> 01:30:03.279 of it, so I mean it's it's it's counting for something. So but 1432 01:30:03.399 --> 01:30:06.279 I think it's good to have. Any way that the league can generate some 1433 01:30:06.520 --> 01:30:10.760 kind of news I think is always good. So I think the more drafts 1434 01:30:10.800 --> 01:30:13.479 are better. I mean, throwing as many as you want, because I 1435 01:30:13.800 --> 01:30:18.720 do think you're opening up opportunities for players to get a chance to be signed. 1436 01:30:18.840 --> 01:30:21.680 And these are leaks. I can use as many players as possible to 1437 01:30:21.720 --> 01:30:26.279 phillip rosters before going into training camp. So try to get as much talent 1438 01:30:26.359 --> 01:30:30.119 as you can. I agree. I think, uh, And like Greg 1439 01:30:30.199 --> 01:30:32.720 said, presumably more drafts to come here, right, and we have the 1440 01:30:32.760 --> 01:30:35.920 showcases. We're not doing the combine this year, right, We're doing the 1441 01:30:35.960 --> 01:30:41.119 showcases. Presumably that, and then we'll have another draft right early fall, 1442 01:30:41.239 --> 01:30:44.159 and then maybe one after kind of the end of the NFL season, going 1443 01:30:44.239 --> 01:30:46.920 into trading camp. It's just hard because I get like, and they said, 1444 01:30:46.960 --> 01:30:49.119 doing the publicity, we want to do this, we want to be 1445 01:30:49.159 --> 01:30:53.359 a thing. But most of the stories that come out today are players that 1446 01:30:53.479 --> 01:30:56.079 were like, well, I didn't even know I was in this or what's 1447 01:30:56.159 --> 01:30:59.560 going on? And so like, I think there's ways to do this. 1448 01:30:59.840 --> 01:31:03.680 I've given the work that I feel that this does at this point because I 1449 01:31:03.760 --> 01:31:06.920 could bring on eighty seven people to talk about football stuff, and I think 1450 01:31:06.960 --> 01:31:10.720 there's a there's a ceiling to kind of the interest for this. I think 1451 01:31:10.760 --> 01:31:14.399 we did a phenomenal drop today. I appreciate all three people coming on. 1452 01:31:14.560 --> 01:31:16.199 I know Pat wanted to hop on as well, and the Pat's busy with 1453 01:31:16.319 --> 01:31:19.600 work stuff, and then Andy Murray, the professor, wanted to hop on 1454 01:31:19.720 --> 01:31:24.159 as well. Just circumstances and stuff. So I appreciate everyone coming on. 1455 01:31:24.399 --> 01:31:27.319 Like I said, like it, subscribe. But if you're finding this now, 1456 01:31:27.439 --> 01:31:30.079 I don't know if we are. We're still working through all this. 1457 01:31:30.560 --> 01:31:33.800 I would like to get more of a picture of what we want this UFL 1458 01:31:33.920 --> 01:31:38.960 offseason to look like. I know that Jeff and Anthony had his article out 1459 01:31:39.479 --> 01:31:44.000 Jeff the VP of Coms stepping down mutually party ways with the league. I've 1460 01:31:44.039 --> 01:31:46.000 had my own kind of issues with the league, and maybe we have the 1461 01:31:46.159 --> 01:31:50.520 discussion for another point, but I haven't been super motivated to kind of figure 1462 01:31:50.560 --> 01:31:53.760 out, like, Okay, what is the plan? Here? Are we 1463 01:31:53.840 --> 01:31:57.439 having more drafts? We had rest Julia on last season kind of talking nowt 1464 01:31:57.479 --> 01:32:00.159 I thought that was a proitful conversation. But you know, we're all here 1465 01:32:00.199 --> 01:32:03.439 where we are now, so like, get subscribe. I talked on the 1466 01:32:03.520 --> 01:32:06.479 Monday show, Hussey and I are taking the two week break. I got 1467 01:32:06.600 --> 01:32:10.880 vacations here. We're going to the lake, We're going to Boston. We'll 1468 01:32:10.920 --> 01:32:13.800 be back if there's any breaking news. I'm sure I'll have my laptop, 1469 01:32:14.479 --> 01:32:16.960 Greg anything you on the plug ufl board, we'll do that real quick and 1470 01:32:16.960 --> 01:32:20.239 we'll get out because I know it's late for everyone. Yeah, a lot 1471 01:32:20.279 --> 01:32:25.079 of content coming to ufl board. I had my by the numbers looking at 1472 01:32:25.159 --> 01:32:30.119 kind of a macro look at the draft today. I'll have more micro looks 1473 01:32:30.159 --> 01:32:33.680 at each team, comments on each player over the next few days. Those 1474 01:32:33.720 --> 01:32:38.880 will be split up by USFL Conference XFL Conference, take a look at analyze 1475 01:32:38.920 --> 01:32:43.560 what each team did, and then next week. I've been compiling throughout the 1476 01:32:43.640 --> 01:32:48.560 last week or so players who participated in the UFL showcases in Saint Louis and 1477 01:32:48.600 --> 01:32:53.399 DC last weekend. So I'm gonna have a couple pieces out that profile, 1478 01:32:53.560 --> 01:32:58.039 do short little bios on the players that I was able to find scouring social 1479 01:32:58.119 --> 01:33:00.680 media to find out who attend. The decence the league is not releasing those 1480 01:33:00.760 --> 01:33:05.319 names, and it's probably going to be the most comprehensive list that's going to 1481 01:33:05.359 --> 01:33:10.960 be out there of players who attended the UFL showcases. So I'll be on 1482 01:33:11.039 --> 01:33:14.319 the lookout for that next week. And I mean, just for crying out 1483 01:33:14.359 --> 01:33:16.000 loud, like I understand Greg last year when it's like we don't want to 1484 01:33:16.039 --> 01:33:18.720 release the names because we've got to deal with the USFL and all that stuff, 1485 01:33:18.760 --> 01:33:23.199 Like put the names out there, right if you're the UFL at this 1486 01:33:23.279 --> 01:33:25.520 point, put the names out there. Where are we hiding? Evan, 1487 01:33:25.720 --> 01:33:28.560 are you guys winning an IFL championship? What do we got here? Before 1488 01:33:28.600 --> 01:33:30.520 we get out of here? I sure hope some inn you know, just 1489 01:33:30.640 --> 01:33:35.600 clinched playoffs and we got our last regular season game this weekend, so always 1490 01:33:35.640 --> 01:33:39.560 looking around. You know, I do plan, you know, to go 1491 01:33:39.760 --> 01:33:45.199 to the UFL showcases in Orlando hopefully and San Diego, which are I think 1492 01:33:45.239 --> 01:33:48.000 September and October. That's in my schedule or I'm working it in, so 1493 01:33:48.119 --> 01:33:51.239 you know, always looking around, always happy to talk football, always happy 1494 01:33:51.279 --> 01:33:55.520 to talk players. That's obviously my my thing, my bread and butter. 1495 01:33:56.239 --> 01:33:58.359 So yeah, you know, had a good time, and like you said, 1496 01:33:58.439 --> 01:34:01.399 hopefully you know, we come out as champ. Everyone's here, happy 1497 01:34:01.479 --> 01:34:05.279 comedy, happy words, Anthony, hardest working man and that you know for 1498 01:34:05.840 --> 01:34:09.640 the all football news stuff right now, what do you got coming out and 1499 01:34:09.680 --> 01:34:13.640 then we'll get out of here. Yeah. So obviously CFL season is hot 1500 01:34:13.680 --> 01:34:15.600 and heavy, so that's kind of where our big focus of that. You 1501 01:34:15.640 --> 01:34:19.039 know. Thank god this draft happens and now I can do some UFL breakdown. 1502 01:34:19.159 --> 01:34:23.319 So I know, Mike just finished up his DC Defenders one, so 1503 01:34:23.439 --> 01:34:27.560 hopefully they'll come out probably tomorrow, and then I'll do the breakdown on the 1504 01:34:27.960 --> 01:34:31.279 rest of the teams and then yeah, there's gonna be a lot of CFL 1505 01:34:31.439 --> 01:34:38.039 content. It's gonna be busy this weekend with two games on I guess Friday. 1506 01:34:38.079 --> 01:34:41.000 There's no games tomorrow, so it's just gonna be two games on Friday, 1507 01:34:41.079 --> 01:34:44.800 one on Saturday and Sunday, so a lot of preview games, and 1508 01:34:44.880 --> 01:34:48.039 then tomorrow probably do some I want to do a breakdown of what's going on 1509 01:34:48.079 --> 01:34:51.479 in Edmonton and and all the on all that jazz with the quarterback position and 1510 01:34:51.520 --> 01:34:55.720 stuff, so we'll be on the lookout for that. Yeah. I saw 1511 01:34:56.119 --> 01:34:59.439 Rashmdani tweet out that friend of me of the show and he's like, there's 1512 01:34:59.520 --> 01:35:02.479 no right now, what's the CFL doing. I'm like, UFL College Draft, 1513 01:35:02.680 --> 01:35:06.319 bro, Like wake up, Like when we're going, yeah, if 1514 01:35:06.359 --> 01:35:10.640 you're God forbid, if you're we got a lot of people still on this 1515 01:35:10.880 --> 01:35:14.479 hour and three or five minutes say if you're like into this CFL season has 1516 01:35:14.560 --> 01:35:17.520 been great, Like and I know and it's your your mileage, Mayberry, 1517 01:35:17.600 --> 01:35:21.319 but it's been a phenomenal CFL season. BC number one in the West. 1518 01:35:21.439 --> 01:35:25.640 We're gonna be hosting the Great Cup. Should be excited. Appreciate everyone, 1519 01:35:25.760 --> 01:35:29.000 Evan, Greg Anthony, thank you guys all so much. I'm gonna go 1520 01:35:29.119 --> 01:35:30.560 get some dinner here. Well, I'm gonna shower after working there, then 1521 01:35:30.600 --> 01:35:34.760 we'll go get some dinner. I appreciate everyone enjoy the new outro graphics, 1522 01:35:34.760 --> 01:35:35.920 so we'll see you guys next Sex