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Get some facts and come back and
Seebee. Get some facts and come back

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and Seebee. Don't fill out salaries
or other things. Get some facts and

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come back and Seebee. You can't
handle the true now told our players you

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need a bit more like a dog. We don't need a bunch of cats

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in here. Looking in the mirror, I look good. I got my

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extra bands on, I got my
other shoes. Be a doll. We

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don't need no meals. We don't
need no cats. We need more dogs.

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Why a lot of detain? Why
you're not that day we weren't good.

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There's no sense of asking me things
about the game. I'm telling you

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we laid an egg. So I'm
not gonna break it down for you.

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He sucks. He sucked. He
laid an egg. That's all I have

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to say. Guys, I'm sorry. I'm not gonna break it down for

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you. Nothing went well for us. It's on us. We have to

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figure it out every way. Dad, you need dog, he said.

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There's no doubt about it. The
Lions have some dogs in a good way.

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I don't mean in a bad way. I mean in a really good

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way. I'm not going to try
and say it okay, because it doesn't

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work for me. Man, you
a dog that doesn't work for me.

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This is not a Seinfeld episode where
he says, oh, that Michael Jordan,

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he's such a phony. Why did
you tell him? No, that's

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not the way it works. We
can tell you this, though, that

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the Lions do have some dogs in
a good way, and one of them

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is I'm on Ross Saint Brown pro
bowler a year ago. Dude is an

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absolute baller. You want him on
your team. He was rewarded for his

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efforts. And here's what I think
I like most about I'm on Ross Saint

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Brown more than anything else. Sure, the production is there and it's beautiful.

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I love the fact that that dude, if you watch him, isolate

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him for a moment, whether he's
getting the ball or not, whether it's

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a pass or not. He is
all out all the time. In addition

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to that, he is a team
guy. And was he an underdog?

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Was he a guy you looked at
and you said, honestly, did you

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let me ask you this. You
watch a lot of college football trend you

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watch mostly Michigan State, so there's
a there's a little skew there. I

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understand that, But did you notice
him at USC not particularly no right,

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So is it fair to say that
a guy like this is an underdog?

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Yeah? We talked yesterday about quarterbacks
with a chip on their shoulder. How

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about receivers. I don't know.
If there is one with a bigger chip

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on his shoulder, then I'm in
Ross Saint Brown. Everyone knows the story

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about He's got every receiver picked ahead
of him. Order unbelievable stuff. He's

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so motivated. Yeah, as a
fourth round pick. Being a fourth round

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pick, there's nothing wrong with that. Is there a bigger chip on the

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Cooper Cup? I don't know if
you've ever seen any of the documentaries on

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him. He plays with a strong
chip on his shoulder. But I love

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the fact that this dude is locked
up for Detroit and he's only twenty four

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years old, and he earned it, and he absolutely earned it. As

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a fourth round pick. He has
been as productive as anybody you could hope

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for. I mean, I don't
think he had a thousand yards his rookie

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year. I know he did,
he had like nine hundred. But the

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next two years, his last two
seasons of which he was a pro bowler.

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He was a pro bowler in twenty
twenty two, and he was a

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Pro Bowler this past season. And
he was an All Pro first teamer this

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past season. Pro Bowls sometimes can
be a little misleading, right if you're

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an All Pro. So here's the
All pros and just so people put in

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perspective. Lamar Jackson and Dak Prescott
and Josh Allen, those are the All

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Pros. At the quarterback position,
the running back was Christian McCaffrey, Derrick

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Henry, Kyron Williams, Raheem Moster. Those were your running backs. Your

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wide receivers were ceed Lamb, Tyreek
Hill, Brandon Ayuk, Nico Collins,

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A J. Brown, Puka Nakua, DJ Moore, Mike Evans, and

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Aman Ross Saint Brown. The tight
ends George Kittle, Travis Kelce, TJ.

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Hockinson, Sam Laporta Lofty Company,
Frank Ragnow All Pro, Right,

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Penn Subel All Pro. This is
what it takes, folks, This is

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what it takes to be a great
team. I don't care how good your

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coach is. You've got to have
great players, gotta have dogs you do.

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Tom Landry is a Hall of Fame
coach. He's one of the greatest

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NFL coaches in history. Right,
he was a defensive coordinator for New York.

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Vince Lombardi was the offensive coordinator.
Okay, this is early on.

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This has been talking about a staff
anyway, Tom Landry, I think he'd

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lost I think he didn't have a
winning season. Is for six years in

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Dallas. Now it's an expansion team. He needed players, he had the

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system, felt like he had the
right system. And that might have been

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part of his demise, is the
fact that he always felt like players were,

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you know, interchangeable. Otherwise,
why do you rotate Roger Staubach on

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every play with another quarterback? Why
wouldn't you just keep Roger Stauback taking every

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single snap. It's ridiculous. But
I don't want to digress to that.

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My point is that you've got to
you need great players. I'm on Ross

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Saint Brown. I think we over
use the word great. You know that.

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But I'm on Ross Saint Brown based
on his numbers, based on his

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achievements Pro Bowlers, all pros over
one thousand yards, you fifteen hundred yards

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receiving. That's that's nothing to sneeze
about. Man, When you're hauling in

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ten touchdowns and you've got one hundred
and sixty four rocks one hundred and forty

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six catches. I mean, those
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numbers. Or targets. I'm sorry
I said catches. I mean one hundred

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and nineteen catches, one hundred and
six. You're over one hundred catch You're

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over ninety catches. Every single year
he's played in the league, he's gotten

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ninety catch or more. And let's
face it, when you're in year two

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after a season you catch ninety balls, people know you're going to be a

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target. That's why he was targeted
one hundred and forty six times, and

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yet he still had one hundred and
six catches. And Jared Goff trusts him,

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maybe more than any other player on
this roster. Sam Laporta, Yeah,

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I mean he would tell you,
he would tell you. I trust

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them all. But yeah, look, I don't care if it's Jared Goff

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or Dan or Latsky under center,
it's you need a key catch. Where

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are you looking? First fourteen?
Yeah? Absolutely, that's who did Goff

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go to to seal the playoff game
against the Rams? Yeah? Yeah,

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he's going to i'man Ross Saint Brown
because he knows he's gonna like flawlessly and

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he's gonna catch it because he's got
great hands. Yeah, you know,

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he's gonna secure it. And even
if he had a drop, and it's

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gonna happen every great player, it
happens, you're gonna go back to him.

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But think about that. He is
a guy who had ninety catches his

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rookie year. Teams know that one
hundred and six the next year. Teams

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know that, they know you're going
to him, they know the trust factor,

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they know how good he is.
And yet he ups the annie and

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has one hundred and nineteen this past
year. That's great stuff. He is

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a really borderline great player in the
NFL. And what's worth studying here.

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And we're gonna play this yere in
a moment when we come back from break.

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Aman Ross Saint Brown has turned his
entire career around in a place where

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he did not want to be.
He sat down with Ryan Clark of ESPN

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and had a really good interview about
his whole mindset. This is when we

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come back, We're gonna play this. But I want you to think about

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this for a second. When there
are tough times in life, we all

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have it, Okay, the mindset
of trying your best to not just make

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the best out of a situation,
but to turn things around. Understanding that

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you're not well respected as a team, how do you change that? You

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hear the phrase change the culture.
Coaches can do that, players can do

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that too, and i'm ros Saint
Brown is a big reason why Detroit has

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changed the culture. Yes, Dan
Campbell, Brad Holmes get a lot of

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credit, and rightfully so, but
players like i'm on Ras Saint Brown are

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just as impactful and important. We'll
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Who doesn't want to wake up to the

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falcon somehow? Let's go run through
a wall right now. Favorite Metallica album

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sp I don't know. That's tough
to say. That's like asking me the

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favorite ACDC album. If I mean
one I don't like. It's tough to

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say. Black album's pretty awesome.
I don't know if there's a bad song

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on it. We could talk rock
and roll heavy metal all day, but

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we're not going to. What makes
you want to run through a wall is

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attitude, all right, A belief
in something. I'm on Ross Saint Brown

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and the Lions have people in this
state believing. And I would argue this,

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they have people who play in the
NFL believing too. They the players

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recognize. It's one thing about fans. You know, you can get fans

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to jump on board because there's some
fair weather stuff. I mean, Tiger's

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one four in a row and people
are like, hey, man, don't

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let the Tigers get hot. Plump
your brakes. Fans can be emotional,

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and that's awesome. That's what fandom
is. But players and coaches recognize what

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they see works, and they look
at the Lions and they say that team

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is really good, that team is
a threat, that team is a legitimate

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championship contender. Soak it up,
man, shout it from the rooftops.

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Hasn't happened in our lifetime. Enjoy
this, grab hold of it, and

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don't let go. It could have
been a lot different if not for the

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brilliant drafting of Brad Holmes, the
steady development of Dan Campbell and his staff.

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Let's not forget that Aaron Glenn on
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the offensive side. But it's more
than just that. Their coaching staff,

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whether it be quarterbacks on Mark Brunell
or whatever, these guys developed a lot

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of these players. So give him
a ton of credit. I'm on Ron

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Saint Brown, when he was originally
drafted as a fourth round wide receiver out

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of USC in the twenty twenty one
draft, was not thrilled that he was

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going to Detroit. He recently sat
down with an extended, elongated conversation with

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Ryan Clark of ESPN, and it
was very very good and very telling and

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very revealing. Here's some of what
he had to say on that podcast.

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How proud are you to be such
a huge part of what's happening in Detroit

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with that team. I remember getting
drafted seeing the three year on Tesset.

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The one team I told my brother
like, I do not want to go

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to is Detroit. I want to
play. I want to go to the

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Pack. I want to go to
Pack with Tayohim, Aaron go to the

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chief play with Mahomes, cowboy,
is any like a big team? Go

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quarterback? And I saw the three
or three, I said, it's overweight,

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Like, I don't know what I'm
gonna do. It's gonna be in

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the middle of nowhere. The team
isn't good. I probably know two players

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on the roster like it was.
It was terrible and me going fourth round.

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It was all bad. I mean, looking back on I was hot,

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Like when I got drafted, I
wasn't even excited. I was.

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I was mad at the situation,
at what happened. But looking back on

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it now, it's like it completely
flipped for me, completely different. I

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love the honesty. I think a
lot of players feel like that. I

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don't care if you're the first overall
pick. I don't care if you're Caleb

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Williams. Here, you're like,
yeah, Chicago's probably gonna take me.

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Who wouldn't want to play in certain
markets, whether it be weather or history.

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Green Bay with their history, Dallas
with their history, right, I

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mean Kansas City because of Mahomes.
Yeah, I mean in his case as

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a receiver, he came out and
said, I'd love to play with Aaron

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Rodgers or Mahomes. Yeah, why
wouldn't you, Right, they're two Hall

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of Fame quarterbacks. Absolutely, Now
that's not a slight at Jared Goff,

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but he did not want to go
to Detroit. Is that because the Lions

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and their horrible history? Is it
because of the city, Is it because

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of the weather. Is it a
combination of all of those We can read

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into it. That's fine. You
and I have talked about this before.

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When when you come here and you
recognize and you were here for a while,

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you see exactly what Michiganders are most
proud of. The passion, the

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friendliness, and the things this state
has to offer that you just don't know

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about until you're actually here. I'm
sure there's a lot of states like that.

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Sure, there's a lot of states
that say, you know what,

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if you were here, you would
appreciate it a lot more fair enough,

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So maybe Detroit is not too different
in that regard. But the point is

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this is a team that has grown
on him. This is a team that

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he feels is now championship caliber.
And it's not just him believing in his

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team and his teammates and the organization, it's him hearing it from others around

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the NFL. Part of that podcast
also revealed that he runs into players now

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and what do they say. They
say, you know what, you guys

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are the real deal. That's a
good place to be. I want to

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play with you guys. I want
to play for that coach. I want

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to play for those fans, right, I want to play in that building.

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Terry and Arnold couldn't wipe the smile
off his face. Granted, that's

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a special occasion because the draft was
in Detroit, but he got to raise

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his arms up, embrace that crowd
and say I'm home. And he was

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excited. Brian Branch the year before, he was excited. He was that

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only second rounder left in the green
room. He was fired up. You're

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seeing and that's I mean, it's
legit. It's not like you said.

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It's not just hey, you know
what, I'm getting drafted. That's part

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of the enthusiasm and the excitement going
to a team that is on the rise

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with more and more rock solid,
very good, borderline great players should excite

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everybody. And I'm on, it's
not close to the vest. Like Bill

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belichicker, you get to wear your
heart on your sleeve. You get to

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go be passionate. I think there's
a huge difference there. Some players would

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much prefer that. Yeah, you
know when he said that. When I

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first heard this, here's where my
mind went. Would you want to go

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to a historical, historically great franchise, an iconic franchise, pick it out

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whatever sport. It could be the
Canadians, Red Wings, Maple Leafs,

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Bruins in hockey, it could be
the Lakers, Celtics in basketball, maybe

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the Yankees in baseball? Or do
you want to go to a place where

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you help make it iconic? You
are the reason for helping put that team

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on the proverbial league MAP. I
got news for you, man. Isaiah

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Thomas had the same mindset when he
was drafted by the Pistons. Detroit couldn't

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wait to get him here. He's
just like, are you kidding me?

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Chicago born and raised, I gotta
go to Detroit and look at what's what

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this next topic about college football,
let me ask Trent to go over the

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results from yesterday's poll question. You
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and that's where we put our poll
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single day, and today yesterday's was
what's the best golf event to watch?

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Is it? Any of the four
majors? And you got one of them

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coming up this weekend, the Open
Championship or the British Open, whatever the

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hell they call it now, which
I saw yesterday. I saw the odds.

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Who's the favorite? Tommy Fleetwood is
up there, which you know,

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not that he's not a great golfer. I just I didn't see in the

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top four. I don't think.
I don't think I saw Scotti, Scheffler.

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Anyway, any of the four majors, Ryder Cup or President's Cup,

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and the Ryder Cup will take place
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what's the best golf event to watch? Of those choices, what are the

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final results? This was pretty interesting, chef. Fifty nine percent said Ryder

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Cup fifty nine percent, Yes,
okay, forty one percent said one of

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the four majors. Not a single
person voted for the President's Cup. Do

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you think most people look at the
President's Cup and say, it's just a

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way to have the Ryder Cup extended? Kind of? But I also think

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this These results make sense to me, to be honest, because I think

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most people are either picking Ryder Cup, which won, or they're thinking the

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Masters, which is lumped in with
all four majors. So I don't know

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these results make sense to me.
What's your answer? By the way,

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Ryder cop me too. How about
you? It feels a little more special

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every two years? Is that competitive
edge to it? Yeah? I think

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I love the I'm gonna watch them
all, don't get me wrong, but

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I love the pageantry that's associated with
it, the love for one's country and

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the camaraderie. I think it's awesome. I have. Yeah, I covered

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the one at Oakland Hills and it
was it was awful. Not not the

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event, but the results. The
US didn't show up. Yeah, they

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just didn't show up. It was. It was horrid. I really there

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are so many people let down,
So it's it's unfortunate, it really is.

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But you can vote as often as
you want on our our new our

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new pole question, which is about
free agents. Who's the best free agent

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acquisition in Detroit? Vladimir Terrasinko the
Red Wings, Tobias Harris of the Pistons

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DJ or Kevin Zeidler of the Lions. You can vote as often as you

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like, and we'll give the results
in the eight o'clock hour tomorrow. Somebody

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had tweeted at me when I tweeted
this out, and they had said,

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what, you know, basically,
what a sorry state it is that these

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are our choices? Okay? Well, I mean, look, we got

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a text along those lines too,
shep. If you want me to read

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that off real quick, I do. Let me just say this Readers not

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a pro bowler, but he's gonna
help Zeitler is a former pro bowler and

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considered still one of the top five
to eight guards in football. Tarasenko just

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won a cop and he's going to
provide you he's a top six forward.

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And Tobias Harris disappears in the postseason. De Tread's not going to make the

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postseason should help them an awful lot. I'm not going to sit there and

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try to convince you that the Pistons
are a playoff team, because they're not.

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But the players that they've acquired and
won in Fontechio that they've held on

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to with Hardaway, Junior and Harris
will help them greatly in their three point

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shooting. That's part, if not
in one of the most important parts of

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basketball. Today is the ability to
shoot from the outside. The Pistons stunk

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a year ago. And when you've
got a point like Cade, who you

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just locked up for the foreseeable future. You're building around him, you've committed

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to that, you need shooters for
him to swing it too. Absolutely,

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don't you think that's don't you think
that is today's game When we look at

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we look at every sport and we
say, oh, you know, football

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is more of a pass you play
fantasy football. Football is more of a

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passing sport than it has ever been. When you play fantasy football, it

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used to be running backs. I'm
not saying they're not important this year.

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I'm just telling you they're They're they're
not as important as they used to be.

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Right, Maybe that's not the be
all end all. I'm just telling

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you I think it's. I think
it's really important. That's the way it's.

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That's the way it is. The
Boston Celtics who just won the championship,

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the reigning champions, of course,
they led the NBA and three pointers

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made last season game beautiful love it. That's the that's and and they've got

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do you look at them as a
prolific like, who's the guy on their

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team. You're like, oh my
god, that guy's that guy's the second

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coming of Reggie Miller or Steph Curry
or things of that. No, you

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don't. Yeah, Ray Allen's not
still playing in Boston, is he.

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No, he's not. But they
do it collectively as a team, right,

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I think I think the ability to
keep teams honest in that regard three

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point shooting. Look, take it
a step further. Who's who is the

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best three point shooting team in the
NBA last year? Oklahoma City? The

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teams that shoot the three really well
are making the postseason? And where was

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Detroit twenty ninth? And three pointers
made per game? And three point shooting

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bump middle of the pack. So
they're not making many. They're they're they're

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taking plenty, but they're not making
many, all right, So what they've

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acquired, what they have acquired is
going to help them in that aspect of

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the game. So really important.
And for the record too, I mean,

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Kate Cunningham, if people want to
jump on his case, he's a

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thirty five percent three point shooter last
season. That's that's pretty pretty good.

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Yeah, And what did we say? It's same as basically Jaylen Brown,

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Right, so get them some help, right, And that's when I think,

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yeah, and I think they've done
that. That's the reason we put

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that up in our pole question.
Okay, so you can vote as often

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as you like via Facebook or on
Twitter, and we'll give you the results

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around this time tomorrow. College football
it's closing in on us quickly and we

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can't wait. There are two new
coaches in or in the Big ten Michigan

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teams obviously, so you've got these
guys taken over and high expectations. Expectations

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for Michigan because they're coming off a
national championship. I don't think they're going

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to get stagnant. I do believe
that they will be a force to be

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reckoned with. They're obviously not as
good as Ohio State going in, but

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what they'll do is they'll be if
you're going to be part of the college

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football playoff, or if you're going
to be part of the playoffs in general,

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right, the twelve teams, you're
going to be a force to be

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reckoned with? Is that fair?
You got a chance, of course,

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So I think they're going to be
in that mix. A recent article cbsports

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dot Com came out with all the
coaches in America, who's on the hot

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seat, who's secure? And they
had it ranked. Okay, they used

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a rating and they used a definition
of that rating. So you better win

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or you're going to be fired.
You've got to start improving right now.

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The pressure is mounting. All good
for now? Safe and secure or untouchable.

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Those were the categories. Five different
categories. One coach was win or

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be fired. Okay, can I
guess what it was? Well, no,

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I'm just saying one a one.
If you're given a one, it's

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safe and secure. But at number
five your win or be fired. So

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in other words, it's a one
right next to you. Okay, there's

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only one coach, only one coach
in America based on this that they feel

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must win right now or they're gone
now. It is not Michigan. It

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is not Michigan State. And this
is look with all due respect because I

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think you know Scott Wooster and Grand
Valley is all excited and they should be.

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Steady. Program in Grand Valley,
Tony and Nice and farri State are

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fired up. They should be.
This is just focusing on the Division one

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schools, all the schools and their
head coaches. So you've got, of

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course, in the great State of
Michigan. You've got is creating an Eastern

405
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:05.960
Michigan. And look, he's done
a phenomenal job there. They were awful

406
00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:10.400
in the Bowl game last year.
But the ranking for him is a one.

407
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:16.039
So in other words, as a
one, you are safe and secure.

408
00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:23.880
Okay, you've got Western Michigan,
of course, and Western Michigan is

409
00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:30.320
they've gone through some transitions as of
late, there's still a program that is

410
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:34.800
trying to get back to where they
once were. Lance Taylor's in his first

411
00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:39.119
year. He's a two. He's
fine. Central Michigan. Jim mckilwain,

412
00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:45.239
Middle of the State, my alma
mater, he's been there five years now,

413
00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:51.519
he is a two. What is
a two? All good? For?

414
00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:58.199
Now? Michigan and Michigan State.
Where do you think they have them

415
00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:04.360
ranked? Do you think the head
coaches for let's say, Jonathan Smith and

416
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:07.880
Sharon Moore? Where are they?
Michigan State. Jonathan Smith, that's got

417
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:10.119
to be a one because it's his
first year and he's taken over that mess

418
00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:13.880
Smeltucker left. And I'll honestly,
I think Sharon Moore, even though they're

419
00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:15.039
coming off a championship. He's a
one as well. It's his first year.

420
00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:20.480
Yeah, you're right, you're right
on both of them and Sharon Moore.

421
00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:24.119
Look, say what you want about
how they went about their business in

422
00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:30.039
hiring him. He was pretty damn
good when he filled in last year.

423
00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:37.239
It's hard to deny that. But
getting back to the five, it's win

424
00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:45.440
or you're gone. Now, I'm
sure immediately you think what Alabama? Maybe,

425
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:50.039
even though Caitlyn de Bor is just
there? Is it one of those

426
00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:57.039
situations where you're you're coming into a
massive, big name program and if you

427
00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:00.719
don't get it done, then you're
out of there. You're going to shift

428
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:05.599
gears quickly. You've got to remember
there are first of all, there aren't

429
00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:08.760
many zeros on this list either,
in other words, untouchable like Dan Lanning

430
00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:16.559
for Oregon is an untouchable. He's
not going anywhere. I think he's one

431
00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:20.679
of the better coaches in America,
don't you? Yeah, oh, Oregon.

432
00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:25.360
He was sought after for the Alabama
job. Yeah, he would have

433
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:30.039
been a good get for any of
the other big You know, he's in

434
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:32.000
the Big ten now, but any
of the Big ten school That thing a

435
00:36:32.039 --> 00:36:34.639
while to get used to that.
By the way, Hey, listen,

436
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:37.920
that's going to be a challenge,
don't you think, Oh yeah, matching

437
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:43.280
wits with him is going to be
is not going to be easy. And

438
00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:45.960
I mean yeah, maybe this is
a separate discussion, but Lincoln Riley at

439
00:36:46.000 --> 00:36:50.440
USC now he's back in the back
in the Big ten. That's an explosive

440
00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:54.599
offense. You got to deal with
changing the math a little bit on how

441
00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:58.039
Big ten teams are playing football.
Sorry, chef, go ahead, that's

442
00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:02.599
okay. There is anyway there is
one head coach who has a five next

443
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:07.559
to his name when now or you're
gone? Who do you think it is?

444
00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:14.519
I wouldn't have guessed this. My
guess is Ryan Day at Ohio States.

445
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:19.559
That's an excellent guess. Excellent guests, especially because there was so much

446
00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:22.039
talk in the offseason about that Ryan
Day, believe it or not. I

447
00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:25.800
mean, remember he's fifty nine and
eight for crying out loud, right,

448
00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:34.719
Ryan Day is an all good for
now? Okay? Wow, yeah,

449
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:37.440
I would have thought at least it
would have been the pressure is mounting,

450
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:45.039
okay, but they've got him as
Actually I'm sorry, I saw two in

451
00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:50.239
the parentheses. It's actually three.
Pressure is mounting. Okay, See,

452
00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:53.159
you can't throw him under start improving
now because they have improved. I mean

453
00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:59.239
they're basically they're they're pretty steady,
don't you think about Yeah, the Ohio

454
00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:04.079
State's almost anomaly in this discussion,
right because, yeah, he's fifty nine

455
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:07.280
and eight. That's his record there. Yeah, what three straight losses to

456
00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:10.000
Michigan, you lose a fourth?
Are they really going to keep him around?

457
00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:14.360
You wouldn't have thought that they would
have kept him around for a third

458
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:16.159
in a row. I didn't think. And he gets and he gets Michigan

459
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:22.199
at home this year, So yeah, I think I don't think the pressure

460
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:27.800
is mounting. I think I think
he's almost between pressure is mounting and winner

461
00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:34.159
be fired, but not start improving. Start improving is between start improving now?

462
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:37.960
Is a number four? That's between
pressure is mounting three and winner be

463
00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:42.320
fired five. I think you take
out start improving now because they have improved

464
00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:47.239
except for the one game against Michigan. They're a pretty damn legitimate national title

465
00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:51.880
contender every single year until the last
regular season game of the year over the

466
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:54.920
last three seasons. So I think
the pressure is mounting. But on the

467
00:38:54.960 --> 00:39:02.280
other hand, he's gonna win.
He's gonna win that game. There's one

468
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:08.599
coach in America who CBS Sports has
listed as a five win or be fired.

469
00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:22.719
It's Sam Pittman of Arkansas. Wow
wows. I guess would not have

470
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:28.880
guessed that. Now. That's because
he's been there four years. He's two

471
00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:35.159
games under five hundred. It's not
Arkansas State, it's Arkansas. I keep

472
00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:44.039
in mind Arkansas. As Trent just
said, they're in the SEC. They're

473
00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:51.320
in the most challenging conference in America, fair to say. I mean,

474
00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:52.880
I know the Big Ten won the
championship last year, but give me a

475
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:55.960
break. Yeah, until everyone otherwise
is the SEC. Yeah, I think

476
00:39:57.000 --> 00:40:00.400
so. And I get you and
I both probably get a little tired of

477
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:07.519
all the SEC honk that is constantly
taking place, right everybody, everybody lathers

478
00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:14.000
up and jumps all over that SEC
bandwagon. There's a reason for that though.

479
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:20.480
But when you've got Alabama, and
you've got Florida, and you've got

480
00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:23.960
Georgia, and you've got LSU,
and you've got Mississippi State at times,

481
00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:27.519
so you know, that's sort of
that's kind of what I appreciate about that

482
00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:30.519
conference a little bit. You've got
you've got some consistence Alabama and Georgia,

483
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:36.079
and then you've got some other teams
that sometimes they're up, sometimes they're down.

484
00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:44.440
Tennessee, Mississippi State, Florida,
Auburn, sometimes up, sometimes down.

485
00:40:44.599 --> 00:40:47.360
And remember this year, that's why
it kills me that Pittman's on this

486
00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:52.800
list. This year, there's no
divisions anymore. It's just one all conference.

487
00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:59.840
In addition to those continuously difficult and
challenging teams. Texas is part of

488
00:40:59.880 --> 00:41:04.519
it, Oklahoma's part of it.
Hell, Missouri was good last year.

489
00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:12.480
It's difficult stuff. Man, that
is really challenging stuff. And you're gonna

490
00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:15.639
put him in. Like I love
the Big ten two and I think it's

491
00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:20.679
really hard to play Michigan State when
they're when they're on and they'll be back.

492
00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:23.760
And obviously Michigan and Ohio State.
Now you've got Oregon part of it.

493
00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:30.159
You got UCLA, you got USC, you got Washington, Penn State

494
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:37.559
maybe yeah, Wisconsin on occasion.
Iowa's defense. You've also got plenty where

495
00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:42.559
you're just going on. This is
a win. Fan bases are going Illinois,

496
00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:46.719
thanks Indiana, Thanks Purdue, Minnesota, you bet Northwestern, no problem,

497
00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:55.239
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