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Hollywood. If by Hollywood you mean
Burbank, across the street from a Wiener

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Snitzel that serves beer. This is
two hours of the business end of show

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business right here on k e IB
eleven fifty on your AM dial. Sam

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joins me here live from Burbank on
a pretty nice Sunday evening, the seventeenth

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of December. Sam, how's the
things working? Did I did all that

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work? Things worked? Yes?
Okay, we seem to be on the

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air. We seem to be floating. This is good, okay, good.

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Well, we have a special guest
today. We're going to be joined

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at some point by mister Broadway Pants. Sometimes some people know me as mister

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Hollywood Pants, but they don't know
is my nephew is mister Badway Pants.

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And he's got a he's got a
theater report for us, So you're gonna

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hear all about what is happening,
what is hot in live theater. And

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he's straight from Broadway, just got
off the plane, and he's gonna tell

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us what's going on there and how
it might affect you, the Los Angeles

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person that might want to see some
shows. Okay, let's get right into

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the intellectual property issue going on right
now. Sam, this is a this

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is a joggernaut. I don't know
if you know this, but January first

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is the day that has long been
feared, the day that Mickey Mouse goes

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into public domain. This is no
joke. Can you hear the evil in

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my laugh? Do you know how
many Mickey Mouse and like all of these

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different Disney character themed idea that I
want to roll with now that they're now

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in the public domain. You're an
evil person. I don't consider you an

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American. I just don't. I
am just anti American. I am going

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to have some fun with Mickey.
Okay, well, there's some restrictions,

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Okay, okay, please tell me. I'd like to know what my legal

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boundaries here are. Basically, the
rat faced Mickey from Steamboat Willie. You

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can play around with that, okay. Cool. You could probably show Steamboat

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Willie in your anti American club that
you belong to. I guess maybe you

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could. You could show you could
charge money to come in and watch it.

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You could do you can manipulate it. Things like that. You just

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can't take like newer Mickey, Like
don't try to take new Mickey. Don't

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try to you can't they still own
that. They only lost they're only losing

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control over Steamboat Willie Mickey. Okay, So the old stuff basically at what

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year prior, like at what's the
cutoff of between old Mickey and new Mickey?

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Well, right now, just try
to be safe and use Steamboat Willie

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Mickey. Okay, that was released
in nineteen twenty eight. It's got ninety

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five years. This is the ninety
fifth year and it only has ninety five

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years because it used to have seventy
five year years. But they extended it

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in nineteen ninety eight, I think
two twenty years more because they were in

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a panic and now they're ready,
you know, they're kind of ready.

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All right. This is it's very
rare for an image to go this long

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and still be recognizable and be valuable
because when you look at the stuff the

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other stuff that goes into the public
domain, and every year stuff's going into

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the public domain. But some of
it is like who cares? What have

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we got? Like like a animal
farm? People care about that. But

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you know, there's there's this there's
a lot of stuff that just goes just

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goes in. And at one point, maybe in nineteen fifties, it was

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very valuable stuff, and then after
a while it just fades and then it

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who cares? You know, Like, but people get alarmed when they hear

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about like Sherlock Holmes going into the
public domain. Now, not all Sherlock

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Holmes is in the public domain,
but some of it is. And then

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there's we Need the Pooh last year
we all know went into the public domain

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and the result was a horror film
on the Variety Magazine's Worst Films of twenty

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twenty three. And now I assume
they'll be a you could be you know,

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Steamboat Willie, slasher film, you
can do that, Steamboat Willie and

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Train of Death. Is that what
you're going with? I guess a train.

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Yeah, he's on a train.
Yeah. Why isn't it a steamboat?

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Oh that's true. Steamboat of Death. Steamboat of Death, that's what

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everyone's afraid of. Yeah, it
looked like a train conductor in it,

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though I did that was the thing. I think it was the outfit that

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he had on. But yeah,
no, it was. It was a

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steamboat Willy. Obviously, you know, there was some song called Steamboat Bill

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that that was based on that was
a hit, and that went into the

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public domain too. And all hell
broke loose when that went into Maybe I

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should make one about both of them
fighting each other, Steamboat Bill and steamboat

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Willie. Yeah, who's Steamboat Bill? I have no idea. Okay,

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why don't you just follow me?
Follow along with me today? And like

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Virginia Wolf's novel Orlando went into the
public domain last year, Virtual Brecks musical

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play the Three Penny Opera. Have
you heard of that, mister Broadway pants.

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I can't say I've seen that one. I like how his voice sounds

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like he's in another punishment chamber of
some kind. Don't fix that? Uh

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yeah, Virginia Wolf's Orlando. Who
came Charlie Chaplin's Circus? I heard the

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Circus Circus Hotel went into the public
domain just because of the fifth in the

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hallways. The government is no longer
willing to protect it. I say that

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because I was at the Circus Circus
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night before. Because that's one of
the best steakhouses in all of Las Vegas,

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is inside the Circus Circus. Really, it's called the Steakhouse. I

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don't think there's a better one.
Many people would say the Golden Steer is

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the best steakhouse. And yes,
the rat Pack used to hang out there,

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but I think you can make an
argument that the steakhouse in the Circus

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Circus is better than that, and
it's more exciting to It's like going into

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a bad neighborhood and then there's like
a like a speakeasy type. Yeah,

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it's like somewhere in between, like
the two ninety nine buffet, and like

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the restaurants, it will kill you. Yeah, seriously, Yeah, don't

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patron hontail. Whatever you do,
don't eat the shrimp cocktail. It's made

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of it's made of overgrown sea monkeys. Stay away from it. And the

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people in the Circus Circus, it
looks like everybody's looking like it looks like

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everybody in there is looking for social
services of some kind and and they just

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happen to be in a in a
casino and then you turn the corner and

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bam, the steakhouse. Uh.
So I recommend these steakhouse. And the

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reason why it's still there and still
good is because no, there's no uh

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celebrity chef that's like got their eye
on that facility, that building. Yeah,

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oh you know what I would do
if I was in this hotel.

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I would, I would take out
this stale musty uh thing from yesteryear,

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and I would I would put a
hot, new fusion restaurant. No one's

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doing that. Nobody wants to be
there, so they're stuck there. The

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management is stuck with them, and
they can't get a more, a newer,

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more prestigious client, so they just
keep going and it is excellent.

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So then after that we went to
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Steve Martin and Martin Short. Oh
nice. And if you look at my

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Instagram or my Facebook page, you
will notice that I was hauled up on

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stage as the honorary three Amigo and
they did a routine and they, you

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know, they teach us the three
guys. Yeah, I'm one of them.

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And then and they teach us the
three Amigo dance. You were the

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Chevy Chase probably, and then it
was like a dream come true. That

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that is actually a I would qualify
that as being a dream come true.

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That is absolutely true. That's amazing
getting up on stage with Steve Martin,

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Martin Short and being one of the
three Amigos. Yeah, yeah, that

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counts. And it was the keyboard
player, mister Jeff Babco came up the

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aisle and he was looking for volunteers. And then my wife was taking my

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arm and just failing it. It
almost broke it. And then and then

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I got up on stage and did
the thing. And then afterwards I'm leaving,

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and then Jeff Babco, the keyboard
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their show, comes up to me. He goes, I'm friends with Josh

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Freeze. I love the Vandals.
Nice because when I got up there,

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people started yelling the Vandals, you
know, and I'm not used to that

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in a like a mainstream show,
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And I'm like, they start yelling
the Vandals, and I go, okay's

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Vandals. Fans in the audience very
weird. And then I'm wearing a tie,

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you know, in a jacket.
I don't look like a punk rock

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musician. Then Steve Martin asked me
what I do for a living. I

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didn't know what to say. I
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producer, I'm the manager of Sublime. I play bass in the Vandals.

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But they're yelling Vandals. I go, I'm I guess I'm the guy in

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the Vandals. You know, they
caught me here and then he goes So

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you play bass anyway, Just talking
to Steve Martin, even for a minute,

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is it is pretty amazing. But
we're going to take a break now

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and we come. I'm going to
tell you the first time I was a

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part of Steve Martin's act in nineteen
seventy five, did you put the arrow

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through his head? But it was
it was during that era. Joe Scalante

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continues after the traffic Joe'scalante Live from
Hollywood. By Hollywood, you mean Burbank

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two hours of the business end of
show business every Sunday here and kaeib when

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we were talking, I teased this, this amazing story about well last night

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I'm on stage with Steve Martin and
Martin short just randomly. You got to

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see that show. I don't even
if they're doing it anymore. These were

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two postponed shows, okay from the
COVID because someone didn't follow my advice and

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not get tested for COVID. And
if you do get tested, don't tell

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anyone. I'm not a doctor licensed
to practice in California, but in Guatemala.

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However, what my word is gospel
anyway, So someone, so now

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he had to do it in December
fifteen. But it worked out good for

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me because I won the lottery and
got to be the honorary amigo. How

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cool is I would have loved to
have gone at least watched that, just

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so I'd be like, I know
him. A lot of people were doing

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that just to be up on stage
with those two legends. That's outstanding.

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They really. When I thought about
it later, I go, wow,

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they really bestow a gift on three
people every night to that like that's once

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in a lifetime. But for me, it was twice in a lifetime because

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in nineteen seventy five, I was
a huge Steve Martin fan. I'm twelve

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years old and watching Johnny Carson every
night. My mom like doesn't know what

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to do with me. Other parents
have problems with their kids or drugs or

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gender, just phouria or whatever these
people have these days. My parents had

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the problem with this kid wants to
stay up and watch Johnny Carson, and

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he begs and he negotiates, and
he said, just let me watch the

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monologue and then you know, stretch
it into the first guest. Anyway,

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whenever Steve Martin was on I was
just out of my skull with excitement.

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And then I convinced my brother to
take me to see him when he was

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playing at the Golden Bear, which
is just like, you know, five

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or ten miles down pH an old
nightclub in Hollywood. I'm in Huntington Beach.

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Then we watch him and he's so
funny, you can't you can't even

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take it, such such an advanced
style of humor. If you could read

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his biography autobiography he wrote, he's
like a philosophy major of some kind and

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he was infusing that into his comedy
and it was different than anybody would come

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before him, and me, being
the intellectual twelve year old, you know,

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really appreciated that. So it's so
hilarious. Then at the end,

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they say you can stay and watch
the second show, so we stayed and

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we went moved down to the front. So now we're in the front tables,

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it's like tables in the States.
I'm just now I'm in his face.

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After the second show, he's doing
his happy dance and he's and he's

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just reveling, and everybody's you know, because he killed it with some closing

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joke and routine or something, and
everyone going nuts, and then he's dancing

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around, saying good bye, good
bye, bay bye, starts climbing the

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staircase that goes up to the backstage
in that in that club, and he's

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doing these dances, you know,
like snoopy dancing, and then all of

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a sudden he sees me and he
locks eyes on me, and he goes,

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wait a second, wait a second, wait, stop stop stop,

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are you Joe Escalante? No,
He says, what the heck, and

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he walks back down the steps and
he comes up to me and goes,

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how old are you? And I
go, I'm twelve, twelve years old.

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There's been a twelve year old here
the whole time. Oh my lord,

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I had no idea. Okay,
I got a joke for you twelve

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year olds. Twelve years man.
Yeah, all right, there's these two

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lesbians and into a bar, right
nineteen seventy five. Oh that's outstanding.

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Yeah. So that was it.
And then he went crazy and even more

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uproar, and then he goes on
and then I tell that story every day

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of my life, and tell today, and I'll continue telling it. So

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it turns out as I'm walking off
the stage, the keyboard players say Hey,

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I'm Jeff. I know Joss Freese, the drummer of your band Love

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the Vandals. And then so I
sent him an email afterwards it and then

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I told him that story. And
my dream, my real dream in life,

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is for Steve Martin to hear that
story that that young boy that was

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you and grew up to have one
of the lowest rated radio shows in the

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entire history of the medium, and
you know, all because of him.

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Yeah, and no offense in Martin
short. I'm a huge I could tell

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them Martin short stories of how much
I worshiped SETV. That's for another day.

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But ayway, that was my Las
Vegas trip. I encourage Las Vegas,

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like, you know, five hours
away. It's kind of like as

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La gets to be five hours away
from Orange County with the traffic. Yeah,

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sometimes it's just easier to go to
Las Vegas to see something that's no

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joke. That's no joke. Okay, let's get to the movies. You

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saw a movie this week, didn't
you. I saw it Godzilla. That's

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a movie, al right. That
was a great movie they had. It

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was a terrifying Godzilla first off,
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The actual human actors. They paid
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was like because it was in Japanese. Yeah, and you didn't have to

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worry about dubbing. It was just
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film or Uzu film in on the
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a serious you could take it more
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I really enjoyed it, and I'm
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I have the chance. I was
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I'm going with you on a hundred
percent. Mister Broadway Pants is coming up

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in the next segment. But mister
Bridy Pants, did you see Godzilla?

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No, No, I've missed that. I missed that one. What's wrong

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with his microphone is that? How
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does he sound like that? Because
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I could turn him up a little
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don't know. Okay, I personally
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All right, let's go through the
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but we're gonna start going through the
top ten of the box office this

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week. I'll just rattle it off, and then we'll take a break and

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we'll talk about what a little bit
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and then we're gonna get into the
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how you saying that last part.
I have to number one, number one

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movie in the country, Wonka,
number two, Hunger Games, number three,

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Bad the Boy and the Heron which
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the last one, Godzilla minus one, Number four, Trolls Band Together,

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Chosen does Christian film? The usually
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must viewing for anybody that works on
this show. And number ten Poor

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Things from search Light Films. When
we come back, we will discuss the

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the movie that I saw, and
then we'll get into a little more Broadway

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with mister Broadway pants. And this
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you play some music. Then I
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about five seconds, give me a
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two and one Joe Scalante Live from
Hollywood back after this Joe Escalante Live from

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Hollywood. If by Hollywood you mean
Burbank. Uh, two hours of the

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Business, End of show Business,
every Sunday here on KiB eleven fifty on

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your AM dial. The movie list. We just went over the weekend box

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office. The Wonka is the winner, demolishing everybody. It's not even a

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second place, really, thirty nine
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Hunger Games, directed by the Great
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eight million, so thirty nine million. Everybody was seeing Wonka and I wanted

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to see Well, I wanted to
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Wonka, and there was another movie
with I can't find it out it didn't

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do Oh, Eileen was Eileen?
I wanted to disease but I ended up

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not seeing it. And then so
Wonka. What did you think of it?

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Joe? Oh, thanks for asking. Uh, let me ask around

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the panel here, Sam, Yes, did I give a thumbs up or

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a thumbs down to the new version
of Wanka? I think you gave it

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a thumbs up. I'm gonna go
with thumbs up. Mister Broadway Pants.

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Do you think I gave it a
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thinking of thumbs down right, because
he knows how it feels about all the

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musicals, mister Broadway pants. It
never stops going to well, let me

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tell you, let me surprise one
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was a beautiful film, and it
just doesn't care that there were two Wonka

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movies already. It's you know,
one of those walk of films is really

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stupid. One of them is perhaps
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then this one's a musical. Man, there's a lot of room for cringey

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disasters here. But the songs were
fantastic. They were just like, just

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very fitting for a prequel to the
Gene Wilder musical. Let's take the musical

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that the other one is a Johnny
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the Johnny Depp Wonka one. Let's
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bury it too much style, not
enough substance. And that's from a guy

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who has never seen it. Okay, it was the c g I Opa

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Lumpas for me, I just couldn't. Yeah, I just didn't. I

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don't anyway. I looked at it
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needed to happen? And then then
after he ruined Dumbo, I was like,

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well, if he can't even do
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gonna do Willie Wonka? So I
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then this one came. I.
Oh, you know Timothy chacoal Lot or

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Chala may or whatever his name is. He, uh, he's good enough.

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Timothy sports Shelley. Yeah, that's
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Let's just go with that. So
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I like him in some things I
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something wrong with him? He's a
flavor of the month. My wife is

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all into it, you know I
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a shot. And I watched it
and loved it. Everyone in this involved

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in this movie should be very proud, except for Hugh Grant, who was

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He was great in the film,
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was actually in the film. Okay, I thought you're just throwing him in

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there. I mean, he was
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you know, he he just squirted
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before it was even released, complaining
about being an oopa loopa and all the

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CGI stuff and how they made and
he thought they made him look stupid.

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Shame on him. The headline from
this the release of this film should have

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been convicted John spoils otherwise successful launch
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I just thought, since he's complaining
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be in it, I'd bring up
his shadowy past. Let's go around the

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panel here. Do you remember his
shadowy past? Grant? Yes, I

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do, do you It wasn't so
shadowy, do you. Yeah, we

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can get to that. It wasn't
really you know, but it was.

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I mean, it was out in
the open, mister Broadway pants. Did

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you do you know about Hugh Grant? Since I have heard a few stories,

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yes, about his engagement with some
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Divine Brown. He engaged in public
sex with a prostitute. And you know,

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he had to pay a thousand dollars
fine and he had to go on

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an AIDS education program, which I
think is an insult to assume that that

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Divine Brown had AIDS or her co
workers. Yeah, a little bit of

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horror shaming. I don't know,
did I just horses shame by saying that,

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by coining the phrase horse shaming?
No, no, not okay,

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so uh and then she had to
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you know, and she was she
was she wasn't bad looking, and she

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she you know, things didn't turn
out so great for her, but they

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weren't going to turn out probably that
great anyway, if that's how she ended

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up. And then ah, anyway, anyway. The only reason I'm bringing

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it up because I'm just mad he
had a tantrum about his being a part

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of this this cool movie. It's
a cool movie. Songs are good.

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It's it's kind of like a Wes
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Wank in the Chocolate Factory film,
and it's you know, like you don't

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necessarily think of Gene Wilder as a
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man in a musical, but he
pulled it off in that movie and it

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defined him and Timothy challummey as soon
as he started singing, You're like,

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you know, it's very reminiscent of
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like it's not like perfect, like, oh, I became I started as

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a singer and I won American Idol
and now I'm an actor. So he's

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an actor. You can sing.
It's charming, he fits the part.

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Some people say he was miscast,
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it anyway. Some people are bitter. I could have been bitter about this.

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Willie Wanka is a sacred film to
me. But I would see this

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again and again. Is it really
fun? And the cast Mark Lucas from

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the Great British actor that was in
Great Britain, Little Britain, he was

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in it. And Olivia Coleman.
I don't know if you if you familiar

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with her oscars studied career and and
Hugh Grant and everybody was good. Anyway.

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I can recommend Wanka and you can
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minus one. And I honestly want
to see more films with Timothy sports Chalet

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and I would love to see him
work alongside Ham and Cheese bandersnatch. Ham

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and Cheese bandersnatch. Oh is that
Benedict cumber Patch. That's what I said,

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because because it sounded like you said, Ham and Cheese bandersnatch. Same

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thing. Okay, all right,
well we don't have a lot of time.

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We only have one minute left for
mister Broadway pants, mister Robbie pants.

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Did you go see some plays?
I did. I saw some plays.

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I saw some musicals out in New
York City, and I had a

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wonderful time doing it. All right, Well, thank you for stopping by,

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and the Jenny out front will validate, yes' validate your partnerfect. Thank

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you so much, and we'll have
you back again. Great. I'll have

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a lot more to report next time. Okay, good, okay, let's

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take a break. We'll check the
traffic. And Joe Scalante live from Hollywood,

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coming at you, all right,
Joe Scalante live from Hollywood's by Hollywood.

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You need burd Bank And uh,
of course Ponio, the the Great

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Fishy in the Sea from the Ghibli
Studio. Uh. The hair On the

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Boy and the hair On is out
in theaters right now, the last Studio

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Ghibli movie. I guess we're ever
going to see. It's like Tarantino,

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you know, shop after ten or
something. I don't know how many do

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they did? That's it's it feels
bittersweet, it does. This one has

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Florence pew in it. Oh cool, And I know how big of a

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fan of Florence Pew you are.
I'm the pewiest they caused the Pewbies.

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They call you the pubes. Well
you would go there, but no,

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run a tight ship here, Okay, Studio Ghibli, So I haven't seen

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that one. I'll probably see it
this week. No, let's go back

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to the movies for a second.
So we were talking about Wonka and Wanka

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is a musical we've brought in.
Mister Broadway pants. We pulled them back.

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We didn't kick him out, mister
Broadway Pants. How are you?

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I'm good, Joe, thank you, thank you for having me here.

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He sounds like Enoch from the Land
of the Lost, like the high level

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slee stack. Is that what kind
of a station we got? Now?

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Yes, yes, okay, this
is the Land of the Lost. Evidently

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we were just talking over the break
that I'm Everybody's Christmas party is KLA C

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KF I where's the KiB Christmas Party? And since I'm the only live uh,

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you're very lucky. You're driving around
und and you're here, You're hearing

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the only live radio personality in this
station. And I don't have a Christmas

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party. I don't know, so
Sam, I think you should this.

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Here's the Christmas party. I'm telling
you. We are festive right now.

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Sure, but there should be some
We're gonna do some live events. I've

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got a ham cooking in the back. This is perfect. Yeah, I'm

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not as music by it. I
need I need a party, But I

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brought a ham. Where's my where's
all my radio listeners that you know that

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are going to punish me at a
party? Like? I really like?

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If I had a party, i'd
go to it. I probably hate every

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second of it. But since I
don't have one, I'm upset about it.

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Okay, let's go with mister Broadway
pants. You you really did go

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to New York for ten days to
to do an in depth Broadway musical and

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other kinds of plays search for us? What? What did you find?

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What are the highlights the low lights? What's coming to Los Angeles? Yeah?

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Yeah, so I was there for
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shows that are brand new on Broadway. The biggest ticket item that I would

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say I saw was Merrily We Roll
Along the revival of Stephen Sondheim's musical That

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Sounds legit because some of the ones
you talk about sound like the worst evening

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one could spend sitting in a chair. What's this Merrily We Roll Along about?

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So it stars Daniel Radcliffe, Lindsay
Mendez and Jonathan Groth. Are you

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talking about Harry Potter? That's the
one and the same. Yeah, weird

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out the naked or he was naked
on Broadway originally? Yes, Angels in

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America, right, Angels in America? Okay, So Merrily We Roll Along.

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It's a like a nineteen thirties show
tune filled extravaganza. Definitely not.

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No, it takes place and what
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Broadway in early nineteen eighties, and
it goes back in time to see how

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they originated their relationship with those three
characters. So it starts present day and

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then you see how it happens and
it's great and something. Groth has a

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great performance. I was actually sitting
in the front row and I could just

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have him spitting really in my old
fashioned cocktail drink. So yeah, that

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was a really nice That's good because
there's so much bourbon in an old fashioned

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Yeah, it's good. It's gonna
kill it. It doesn't matter. That's

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what Steve Martin said the other night. Laughter is the is the best way

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to spread COVID and AIDS and stuff
like that. Not aids. He didn't

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say that. He said he grants
it. Always wear a condom while laughing.

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Folks, Yeah, maybe, okay, So Merrily We Roll Along?

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Okay, so that's that's a big
deal. Good for you. How much

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is a ticket like that cost?
So that one is the highest cost of

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all the shows, it'll run you
about two to three hundred dollars. They

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just extended it through July, so
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Plus there's a rush and a lottery, as there are for many shushes,

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like when the student's going and they
get it's when Getty Lee comes out and

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okay, yeah that's cool. Hey, look I do all the comedy on

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the show. All right, excuse
me, I'm sorry. What about when

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would like a place like that?
Like how does this work? Like Merrily

405
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:21.480
We Roll Along? It's like a
big on Broadway. When can someone in

406
00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:26.640
Los Angeles see it at one of
these theaters in Hollywood or wherever? So,

407
00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:29.640
yeah, it usually takes about one
to two years, depending on how

408
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:32.519
it does on Broadway, or if
it's a limited run. So this one

409
00:31:32.759 --> 00:31:34.799
is actually a limited run, but
they could always, you know, change

410
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:38.440
it and decide that they want to
take it on tour as they did are

411
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:42.960
doing with Parade Parade, And is
Parade new or is that one of these

412
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:48.599
old Parade was a revival. It
originally came out about twenty years ago and

413
00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:52.559
it came back this year with Ben
Platt as the lead of Dear Evan Hanson,

414
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:57.920
Fame of What Fame Dear Evan Hanson, the twenty seventeen Tony winner for

415
00:31:57.960 --> 00:32:01.920
Best Musical. He's the kid Hansen
all grown up, cut the hair and

416
00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:07.200
everything. Yeah, all right,
if you say so, parade? And

417
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:10.440
then what else you got? And
what else did you see? That was

418
00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:15.640
the cut your eye? What was
you? What is the sleeper hit that

419
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:19.599
you saw? I would say that
that was Buenavista's Social Club. Oh that's

420
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:22.440
a good one, now you speaking
my land Atlantic Stage or at yeah,

421
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:27.119
Atlantic Theater, the Atlantic Theater.
Yeah, it was off Broadway and is

422
00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:34.079
a story about the making of the
record in nineteen ninety six and their backstory

423
00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:37.599
in nineteen fifty six when Fidel Castro
was coming into power and so It tells

424
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:43.359
that story that reminds me of the
Musical that Didn't go, which was the

425
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:50.480
making of the Vandal's Piece through Vandalism
EP, when Ronald Reagan was coming into

426
00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:53.240
power. That would have been a
heck of a musical. It didn't make

427
00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:59.279
it. That's a shame. It
was less popular than that than Springtime for

428
00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:04.640
Hitler. Well, you know,
Merrily We Roll Along was initially a flop,

429
00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:07.440
and now it's thriving on Broadway,
so it could be your time.

430
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:10.440
They can revive flops. Yeah,
well, I mean it's a Stephen Sondheim,

431
00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:15.559
so it has that name attached to
it, a provenance we know.

432
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:20.400
Is Stephen Sondheim still alive? No, unfortunately, he passed away two years

433
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:23.759
ago. He's very much alive on
Broadway and in the theater. He's got

434
00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:29.039
Sweeney Todd. He's got Sweeney Todd
going. The movie Here we Are is

435
00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:32.559
playing at the Shed, and that
is off Broadway, and a company ran

436
00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:38.720
on Broadway two years ago and now
it's on a national tour. You're mister

437
00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:44.720
off Broadway as mister off Broadway pants. Yeah. Well, see the thing

438
00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:47.079
is that I had seen all the
shows on Broadway that I had to dive

439
00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:52.119
deeper to find the things that are
coming to Broadway. It's like the minor

440
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:57.119
leagues of theater. And we're paying
for all of this. Not a dime

441
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:02.480
he's doing. He's digging into his
own pocket for the Joe Scalante Live from

442
00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:07.759
Hollywood. It's on. You know, IOU's okay when when you come back,

443
00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:10.519
we're going to talk more about what
happened in Broadway and when he got

444
00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:15.920
pushed onto the subway tracks and jumped
right back off. Right here on Joe

445
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:19.880
A. Scalante Live from Hollywood,
and he's going to tell you how you

446
00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:23.239
can see some of these some what
are the best plays and musicals to see

447
00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:28.960
in Southern California. Joe Scalante Live
from Hollywood. If by Hollywood you mean

448
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:32.559
Burbank, across the street from a
Wiener Snitzel that serves beer. And this

449
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:35.960
is two hours of the business,
end of show business. This is our

450
00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:38.760
number two tonight. Sometimes we don't
make it this far, but here we

451
00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:45.199
are. It is live December seventeenth. It is six oh six in the

452
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:51.840
city, joined here by Sam the
Engineer of the Stars, and mister Broadway

453
00:34:51.880 --> 00:35:00.119
Pants, the live theater expert that
we send all over the country to at

454
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:06.920
the updates on the live theater world. Because I'm mister movie I'm taking a

455
00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:09.800
photo right now. Yeah, that's
me on the mic. And then uh,

456
00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:15.360
people coming in all the time taking
photos. I mean, I get

457
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:20.920
used to it. Anyways, you
get the paparazzi chasing you, it happens.

458
00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:28.039
Oh never. Actually, I think
I'm you know, I'm happy with

459
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:30.800
the level of fame. I have
a radio host, you know, no

460
00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:34.760
problems. Every once in a while
someone goes, hey, I like the

461
00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:38.280
vandals, or I like your radio
show. I like your shoes. I

462
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:42.199
like your shoes. I like you, I like your shoes. As code

463
00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:45.239
in the backstage for my band and
I go to the manager, hey don't

464
00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:50.079
you have shoes like that? And
that's his cue when I walk away to

465
00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:52.039
get that person out of the dressing
room. But it doesn't have to be

466
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:55.159
me. It's not like, hey, manager, can you kick this guy

467
00:35:55.199 --> 00:36:00.719
out? He's a punisher. No, you go coat. You always have

468
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:06.480
to have coats show business. Okay, mister broadway pants. What if I

469
00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:10.360
wanted to thanks for your report on
New York. We might get back into

470
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:14.039
some of your New York stuff.
What if I wanted to see some theater

471
00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:16.440
in Los Angeles? What would I
do? Where would I go? Well,

472
00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:20.559
it is Christmas time, so there
are a few different Christmas shows that

473
00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:24.440
are playing in the upcoming weeks.
One would be How the Grinch Stool Christmas

474
00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:28.760
Musical. That's a musical, it
is, They got songs and everything.

475
00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:30.840
It's at the Segerstrom Center and Coast
to Mesa. That's a very nice theater,

476
00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:36.119
it is. It's wonderful. And
then we also have a Christmas story

477
00:36:36.199 --> 00:36:39.360
that's playing at the almonds En.
Well that's for hipsters only, though,

478
00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:44.360
isn't it hipster's only for the most
part. Yeah, you got to you

479
00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:46.840
gotta have the glasses, you gotta
be really cool. Peter Billingsley in it.

480
00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:52.639
Greig at Unfortunately I don't think they
were cast in this production, but

481
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:55.880
he could be in the audience.
Okay, never know. It's basically the

482
00:36:55.880 --> 00:36:59.440
same story. It is the same
story. I haven't seen it. I'm

483
00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:01.920
gonna see it Tuesday. Oh on
Tuesday. See he doesn't mess around.

484
00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:06.719
Wow, Okay, where's it at
at the Oh? Yeah, the Omnis

485
00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:08.440
that's a nice place too. It's
no, it's no secret stroom, but

486
00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:12.039
you know it's it's it's one of
my favorite theaters. Yeah, it's a

487
00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:15.400
great, great venue. And is
it better than Dorothy Chandler or is that

488
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:19.039
more for like opera? You know, I haven't even been to the Dorothy

489
00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:22.159
Chandler. I'm not cool enough.
They don't let me in there. They

490
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:25.679
let me in and they don't have
a metal detector and that's the way I

491
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:31.159
like it. They do have one
at the Seagrums. I don't like it

492
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:35.760
goes. I got metal on me
most of the time. Okay, it's

493
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:38.639
a nuisance, Yeah it is.
Okay. So what if you wanted to

494
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:44.639
see, like what's like coming up
with the Pantages, these like big productions

495
00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:47.639
that they have there. That's where
people Is that the premiere Uh yeah,

496
00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:53.079
I mean Hollywood Pantages. That's where
all the big Broadway shows come as their

497
00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:58.800
first stop on national tour. So
the Pantagious season is actually starting up very

498
00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:02.960
soon and Jay is the first in
its lineup that's a Michael Jackson musical.

499
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:07.679
So he's been rehabilitated to the point
where he can have his own music musical

500
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:12.480
and and people will take their families
to this. This is correct, yes,

501
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:16.880
but it focuses more on pre nineteen
ninety five. So it's him go

502
00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:22.760
about to go on his Big World
tour. It's framed as the MTV interview

503
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:24.760
that he did, and then it
goes back in time to his youth and

504
00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:31.920
how he grew as an entertainer.
That's interesting. Do you know, guys

505
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:36.400
know so many Michael Jackson jokes.
I don't think. I don't think I'll

506
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:39.519
tell them because that's a new Joe. I don't tell Michael Jackson, Joeason.

507
00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:45.599
It's very very grown up, mature
of you. Yeah, okay,

508
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:49.079
so there's a Michael Jackson plague,
MJ. So that's the hot ticket for

509
00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:51.280
it now. So that was already
on New York. Yes, that was

510
00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:53.400
in New York, assasce do well. It did great. It's actually still

511
00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:58.639
playing in New York on Broadway.
Actually, it's funny that when I did

512
00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:01.159
see it on Broadway, Madonna was
sitting three rows in front of me.

513
00:39:01.639 --> 00:39:05.639
That can happen, huh in New
York because they can't go have their own

514
00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:07.039
private thing, so Madonna's gonna have
to sit in with the pubble. She's

515
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:12.679
in the house seats. Hmmm.
That's kind of fun, very cool how

516
00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:17.599
she looked you know she looked Okay, I'll say I got a close up

517
00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:21.840
view of her hands that weren't you
know, Oh the hands you give it

518
00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:23.000
to, hands, give it away
again. Yeah, she just walked right

519
00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:28.519
by me down the aisle and tons
of rings and jewelry and things. That's

520
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:31.719
kind of exciting. That's a very
exciting, uh Broadway experience. You never

521
00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:35.079
know who you're going to see when
you go to his show in New York.

522
00:39:36.119 --> 00:39:38.840
Who else did you see? Any
other exciting people? I saw Lindsay

523
00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:44.000
Lohan. That's really good. That's
a good one. That's a good one.

524
00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:45.920
Michael Jackson can have a musical.
I think Lindsay Lohan can have a

525
00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:51.239
musical. The most recent one I
saw was Zoe Chow. I saw her

526
00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:53.000
in the play called Appropriate. She
was sitting two rows in front of me.

527
00:39:53.559 --> 00:40:00.440
She's in Party Down and the After
Party to two good comedies on streaming

528
00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:05.079
sites. According to you, who
did I see? I saw? What

529
00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:12.559
is the woman with the curly hair
that was married to the guy and the

530
00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:21.480
top gun who's married to the guy
in Topcunt Katie Holmes, the curly hair

531
00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:24.079
Nicole Nicole kidd O, that one
from AMC Fame, Yes, yeah,

532
00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:27.119
the AMC. Well, I don't
go to the MC, so you have

533
00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:30.320
to watch that. Does everybody cheer
whenever that happens at the theater you go

534
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:35.639
to? There isn't much cheering now. I think it's just more every single

535
00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:38.440
time. I just went to see
Godzilla and that there with Nicole Kidman shows

536
00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:42.880
up and everybody starts cheering Nicole Kidman
as soon as it's like the movie The

537
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:45.119
Room at this point, Oh dude, don't get don't even get me started

538
00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:47.840
on the Room. I've got pictures
with me and Tommy Wisso and everything like

539
00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:52.159
that. You do now, yeah, it's like the Room. It comes

540
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:54.920
up, they laugh at they're laughing
at her. I think kind of they,

541
00:40:55.199 --> 00:40:58.360
you know, because it's it's well, they told the joke on the

542
00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:00.480
Oscars. That was it was remember
that jokes in the Oscars. Remember it

543
00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:05.440
feels better in a place like this. They have that a line from the

544
00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:07.760
Room, but no, it's a
line from the from the They have AMC

545
00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:12.679
backpacks that has the speech, the
all text of what she says, all

546
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:15.800
text. Yeah you can okay,
Yeah, they're leaning into it. Yeah,

547
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:17.280
I like that. They don't have
anything that good at the cinemak where

548
00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:23.199
I go. But the they cinema
has they don't have that. They don't

549
00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:28.239
have a Nicole, they have a
they don't have. I mean, I'm

550
00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:30.079
kind of jealous. You have a
Nicole Kidman. What time was I was

551
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:35.519
in New York and I saw Nicole
Kidman at lunch, sitting next to me

552
00:41:35.559 --> 00:41:38.840
at the in Italy. You go
to Italy, I've been there a few

553
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:42.719
times. Yeah, probably with my
wife, No, but she did recommend

554
00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:45.119
it. Yeah, I was in
Italy, Nicole Kidman's sitting at the table

555
00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:52.239
next to us. And then later
I went to see Cabaret with Ali coming.

556
00:41:53.599 --> 00:42:00.079
Yeah, and the women forgot her
name. Uh, the one that

557
00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:07.679
you know that it was famous for
doing it and know that one that was

558
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:10.719
a long time ago. And Nicole
kid Move was in the theater with us.

559
00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:15.400
So lunch and at the theater.
So yeah, you feature you go

560
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:20.599
to these things you're gonna. If
you're gonna, you can see some celebrities,

561
00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:25.800
which is kind of fun. Okay, any other any other Broadway things

562
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:30.280
that we've forgotten before we take our
break and some people are like, oh

563
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:34.079
my gosh, I don't have a
traffic app and I need to hear the

564
00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:37.639
traffic from iHeartMedia, So they're really
waiting for me to get to get into

565
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:39.960
this traffic. But before that,
what do you got? I would say,

566
00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:43.920
if you're looking for a comedy on
Broadway, spam a Lot is a

567
00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:47.639
very fun time. It's Monty Python. You're speaking the language of Sam and

568
00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:51.679
Joe here, right. Oh yeah, spam a Lot. So that's good.

569
00:42:51.679 --> 00:42:55.159
That lives up to the the to
the the standards of Monty Python humor.

570
00:42:55.400 --> 00:42:58.800
Yes, yes it does. It's
very funny. What's the plot of

571
00:42:58.840 --> 00:43:02.840
spam Alot? That's the Knights on
the quest to seek the Holy Grail.

572
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:07.119
It's and they got the coconuts and
everything, the coconuts to make the noise.

573
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:10.320
Right, that's got to be fun. Do you think that will come

574
00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:14.039
to Los Angeles or better yet,
do you think that will come to Seal

575
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:17.719
Beach? Yeah, it'll It'll come
to Main Street in twenty maybe the new

576
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:22.679
Bay Theater. Yeah, the Bay
Theater just live action, love it.

577
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:27.280
I mean you could put live theater
in the Bay Theater. Right, Why

578
00:43:27.320 --> 00:43:29.960
don't you be become a promoter?
There you go, Now, she takes

579
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:31.960
some money off this mister promoter pants, this hobby of you of yours?

580
00:43:32.039 --> 00:43:37.079
Yeah, mister promoter pants. Okay, what about the Fat Mike musical?

581
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:43.480
I let you hear some of those. That's the no effects singer songwriter wrote

582
00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:47.719
a musical and it's really good.
I would love to see it or hear

583
00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:51.400
some more music send it my way. But you saw it. It was

584
00:43:51.480 --> 00:43:52.679
I mean you listened to I listened
to. Yeah, you played me a

585
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:55.639
song. Yeah, it's good stuff. It's better than Rent. Oh,

586
00:43:55.679 --> 00:44:00.280
I wouldn't say that. I'm a
bit worse than Larson fan. So if

587
00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:05.039
Jonathan Larson had anything to do with
the play Rent, shame on him.

588
00:44:05.119 --> 00:44:07.800
He is the only one to deal
with the musical event. Isn't like a

589
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:12.880
documentary about his uh tic tick boom, Yeah, tick tick boom. Don't

590
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:16.119
get me started on tick tick boom
fantastic. That's a pick tick tick disaster.

591
00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:22.960
Like, the only thing worse than
than the musical Rent is is going

592
00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:28.880
through the pain of watching this guy
uh you know, concoct it or whatever.

593
00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:35.039
The songs are so uh substandard,
they're They're just like the songs that

594
00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:39.159
like your your nine year old wrote
uh in a for an English class project,

595
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:46.159
and somehow he flubbed his way all
the way to Broadway and then and

596
00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:50.280
which is a shame, and it's
an insult to like Soundheimen and and uh

597
00:44:50.760 --> 00:44:55.519
and uh, who's that guy?
Uh that wrote Jesus Christ Superstar Harriet Beecher

598
00:44:55.559 --> 00:45:07.199
Stowe, Jonathan Lord Taylor. What's
his name? You you were referring to

599
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:09.880
the fan of the opera creator.
Yeah, Andrew Lloyd Webber. Andrew Lloyd

600
00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:15.039
Webber. I thought it was somebody
with three names, that that guy's good,

601
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:21.039
that guy writes good songs. Maybe
you saw Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor

602
00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:25.960
dream Coat and yes, and it
was many different colors that that is those

603
00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:31.119
are good songs. Rent, Really, I mean, I'm watched I didn't.

604
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:35.039
I never went to see it.
Someone threw a cassette and our tour

605
00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:38.239
bus once and we just started listening
to it. And after like three songs,

606
00:45:38.239 --> 00:45:43.639
I was about to just like take
one of the drumsticks from our drummer

607
00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:45.440
and just shove it into my brain
and take a chance on you know what's

608
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:52.679
on the other side. It was
that painful. But you like it?

609
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:54.880
I guess, Uh what do you
like it? Why do you like it?

610
00:45:54.920 --> 00:46:00.599
Just give me one sentence? I
think the music is really and I've

611
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:05.280
just found myself drawn to enjoying it. I'm happy for you. Yeah,

612
00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:07.079
I'm concerned for you, but I'm
happy for you. But it doesn't it

613
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:12.239
doesn't. It doesn't compare with Andrew
Lloyd Webber. It doesn't have the depth.

614
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:15.960
It's it's more kind of like poppy, cheesy, just fun. It's

615
00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:17.519
like, I wrote this song in
fifteen minutes, but it's also about AIDS,

616
00:46:17.559 --> 00:46:22.440
so it's fun with the well aid
It's gonna be fun. So I

617
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:31.159
hear yeah, starts out great,
let's go to break all right, this

618
00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:35.679
is you're listening to a show.
I'm not even saying my name after that

619
00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:37.719
because it's better not to say your
name because then people have to look up

620
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:42.639
who is the guy that said does
horrible things? So this is a Phil

621
00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:46.880
Henry show on k E. I
b AM eleven fifty Joe Scolante live from

622
00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:51.719
Hollywood, if by Hollywood you mean
Bourbhand. We are here with mister Broadway

623
00:46:51.760 --> 00:47:00.320
Pants talking Broadway and other things,
and Sam the engineer running the spaceship Mister

624
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:02.000
Broadway Pants. I hope you'll indulge
me while I get back to the regular

625
00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:07.719
topics that we talk about here on
the Live from Hollywood program. Okay,

626
00:47:08.280 --> 00:47:14.840
and since you're I ride home,
I'm very happy that you have agreed to

627
00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:20.039
that. Sam Terrence Howard, what
do you think of him? Empire star?

628
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:25.000
He's talents a actor. He had
a lot of hype coming out real

629
00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:28.559
fast and real you know, hard
and fast early in his career, and

630
00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:31.599
then it kind of faded and then
he got on He was like on like

631
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:36.960
one of those C s I type
shows for a while, and then but

632
00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:44.599
then he got on Empire and then
Empire Empire shot straight up and then it

633
00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:47.880
kind of fizzled. But he's now
suing. This is a very interesting legal

634
00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:54.800
case. He is suing his agency, c AA, the ones that made

635
00:47:54.840 --> 00:48:07.800
the deal, because there were some
profits the the the show did well for

636
00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:14.639
a while, so he's arguing that
he should have got profits and he was

637
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:21.800
cheated out of these profits because CIA
would have got him a sweet ass deal

638
00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:28.119
if not for the fact that he
was black. So this is a show

639
00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:35.119
with an all black cast, and
because he's black, he did not get

640
00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:38.239
a good deal. Is there like
some minor character that got all the profits?

641
00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:44.159
And do we call that a sad
sweet ass deal? It was a

642
00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:45.719
sad ass deal is what he got. He's suing because he got a sad

643
00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:52.480
ass deal or a spicy deal.
What's the opposite of sweet sour? He

644
00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:55.760
got a sour deal. Yeah,
he got a soury deal. Wasn't a

645
00:48:55.800 --> 00:49:02.119
savory He's very salty. So I
mean it's interesting because he's not with CIA

646
00:49:02.199 --> 00:49:07.119
anymore. And the show, like
I said, it got very high ratings,

647
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:10.679
is up to like maybe thirteen million
people or more, and then it

648
00:49:12.119 --> 00:49:15.920
then towards the end it went back
down to like three million people. So

649
00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:19.039
it did have a period where it
was doing very well, but then it

650
00:49:19.079 --> 00:49:24.639
wasn't doing well and then and then
it had the Jesse Smollett situation where the

651
00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:29.960
guy pretended that he was a victim
of racism. A lot of racism involved

652
00:49:29.960 --> 00:49:36.360
in this show, and so he's
saying it was racism to not give him

653
00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:39.639
the sweet ass deal that would have
given him a bigger paycheck because he would

654
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:47.119
have these profits that he'd be swimming
in right now, Sam, what do

655
00:49:47.119 --> 00:49:52.960
you think this should this should we
should actors be suing their old agencies for

656
00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:57.599
not getting them the best deal that
they could have got them in hindsight?

657
00:49:58.079 --> 00:50:01.039
Does that sound like a world you
want to live in. Sure, he's

658
00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:06.559
you know, he never plays along. Well, let me tell you,

659
00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:10.360
since i'm the lawyer here to in
the Hollywood and mister Hollywood pants, that's

660
00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:13.840
not a world you want to live
in. So if you're an actor and

661
00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:16.599
you get an agent, and the
agent now has to worry about you suing

662
00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:20.039
them if you don't, I mean, the pressures on anyway you get.

663
00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:22.360
If you don't get a good deal, they're going to get rid of you,

664
00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:25.840
and now they're going to sue you
later and then they're going to call

665
00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:30.679
you a racist. So his agents
are now like if you talk to his

666
00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:31.719
agents now, they're like, what
are you doing? Well, you know,

667
00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:43.480
I'm being sued for being a racist
because Terrence Howard. Well you know

668
00:50:43.519 --> 00:50:51.320
it was my client and I got
him a job on Empire. But because

669
00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:53.599
he says because he was black,
I didn't get him the good, the

670
00:50:53.639 --> 00:50:59.400
good stuff, that's too bad.
I didn't know you're a racist. But

671
00:50:59.519 --> 00:51:05.119
I can'sociate with you anymore because that's
that's horrible. I mean, So that's

672
00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:08.719
where that guy is now. The
deal that he got him gave him three

673
00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:13.800
hundred and fifty thousand dollars an episode. That's what he was earning on Empire.

674
00:51:14.719 --> 00:51:19.440
That's really good. That's a sweet
ast deal. Three hundred and fifty

675
00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:22.599
thousand dollars an episode. I'll take
it to walk in there and pretend you're

676
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:25.599
someone else for I don't know what
is eight nine ten days an episode.

677
00:51:25.639 --> 00:51:30.000
That's a lot more than a Broadway
show would make an actor. That's very

678
00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:34.199
good because I used to make TV
deals, mister Broadway pants, and when

679
00:51:34.199 --> 00:51:37.480
we would bring, when we would
am I My job was at CBS to

680
00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:39.440
pay people as little amount of money
as they're willing to work for, because

681
00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:43.639
that's the marketplace. So you did
it by the quote system, which is

682
00:51:43.679 --> 00:51:46.880
since become illegal. And the quote
system was call around and see what this

683
00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:50.800
person made, and if they were
on a TV show and it was a

684
00:51:50.840 --> 00:51:54.519
successful TV show, bump them up
five ten thousand an episode. If it

685
00:51:54.639 --> 00:51:58.239
was if it never aired, but
they were on a pilot, you're going

686
00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:00.199
to get the same thing you got
last time, and tell you we're on

687
00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:05.119
a successful show. So that's how
we did it, and you know you

688
00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:07.599
could. It's a it's a business
you could count on. Uh, it's

689
00:52:07.599 --> 00:52:12.519
a little more complicated now, but
if we had someone from Broadway, and

690
00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:16.119
I would say, like, who
do we got here? Uh, Sidney

691
00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:20.320
Portier. This is a true story. I got Sidney Portier's gonna read for

692
00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:24.199
this role in this stupid TV show. Okay, I'll call up and make

693
00:52:24.239 --> 00:52:29.159
an offer, and then the casting
department go, okay, Joe. Now,

694
00:52:29.159 --> 00:52:31.880
I don't know if you know who
Sidney Portiers, but guess who's coming

695
00:52:31.880 --> 00:52:40.639
to dinner? And he is in
the Uh, well it's one that one.

696
00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:44.639
I forgot that one exactly yeah,
but exactly yeah. I go,

697
00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:46.880
really, I only heard of one
of them. Anyway, I knew he

698
00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:55.199
was a a legend. But my
job was to pay Sidney Portier the least

699
00:52:55.199 --> 00:52:59.079
amount of money he's willing to work
for. So I got to do the

700
00:52:59.119 --> 00:53:04.360
quote system. So I call all
around. How much does he? Uh?

701
00:53:04.679 --> 00:53:08.199
What was he making? Uh?
In Broadway? Think something? Meanwhile,

702
00:53:08.920 --> 00:53:13.440
I'm paying two hundred and fifty grand
a week for William Shatner, two

703
00:53:13.519 --> 00:53:15.880
hundred and fifty grand an episode for
William Shatner, two hundred grand for Chuck

704
00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:22.440
Norris. At the time, Wow, Uh, Sidney Poortier, he was

705
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:27.360
making like forty five hundred a week. Uh Uh In Broadway. So I

706
00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:29.079
you know, they asked me,
what are you going to offer him?

707
00:53:29.079 --> 00:53:30.320
Don't know, forty five hundred episode. I knew I would offer him a

708
00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:32.800
little more than that, but I
just wanted them to panic. Oh boy

709
00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:37.119
did they panic. Oh my lord, they hit, They just hit the

710
00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:40.079
ceiling. I forgot what I ended
up. I think I ended up offering

711
00:53:40.119 --> 00:53:44.199
him like seventy five an episode.
And his agent was said, are you

712
00:53:44.280 --> 00:53:46.400
kidding me? You know, something
like that or whatever. If you want

713
00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:52.920
to hear Sidney Portier Cuss, go
on Spotify and look for the crank call

714
00:53:53.239 --> 00:53:59.880
called tussor with Love, which I
believe is on there. And he's a

715
00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:02.039
he's a beautiful, wonderful man,
but this crank caller, guy Longmont postion

716
00:54:02.159 --> 00:54:07.760
Castle, got him to lose it. And there are other stories coming up

717
00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:14.400
after the break. Joe Ascalante Live
from Hollywood, Well Hollywood, you mean

718
00:54:14.440 --> 00:54:21.400
Burbank. We're here with mister Broadway
Pants and Sam the Engineer, and we

719
00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:27.159
were talking about Terrence Howard suing c
AA, the biggest agency in the world,

720
00:54:27.639 --> 00:54:31.119
over the show Empire because he claims
he was underpaid on the Fox series.

721
00:54:31.880 --> 00:54:36.440
And you know, legally, I'm
here to tell you, I don't

722
00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:42.559
get it. You make an arm's
length negotiation and you hire your agents and

723
00:54:42.599 --> 00:54:45.719
their agents when you sign with them, they'll tell you that they you know,

724
00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:51.800
I would, I would, I
would assume like in the language I've

725
00:54:51.840 --> 00:54:54.920
seen for representations, I can't always
promise the outcome. You know, we're

726
00:54:54.960 --> 00:55:00.280
not here to promise you the ideal
outcome, and you don't have to go

727
00:55:00.320 --> 00:55:02.639
here. And you can also make
these deals yourself. But if you want

728
00:55:02.719 --> 00:55:07.039
us to work on behalf of you, you know, you got to kind

729
00:55:07.079 --> 00:55:12.039
of tell it. You work with
us, but you got to live with

730
00:55:12.440 --> 00:55:17.800
the results unless you find some negligence. And so I guess in a trial

731
00:55:17.880 --> 00:55:22.079
we would be looking for some negligence, but I don't think we're going to

732
00:55:22.119 --> 00:55:27.880
find them because he just said it
was racism just that caused them to not

733
00:55:28.840 --> 00:55:36.280
pursue as good a deal as they
could have because he was black. So

734
00:55:37.440 --> 00:55:38.239
I asked, Sam, if you
wanted to live in a world where you

735
00:55:38.239 --> 00:55:42.760
could just, you know, sue
your agent if you didn't like how the

736
00:55:42.760 --> 00:55:47.039
deal turned out absolut years later,
and Sam, Sam is a I think

737
00:55:47.400 --> 00:55:51.360
that you should go ahead and do
that. I, on the other hand,

738
00:55:51.599 --> 00:55:55.639
think that agents have it hard enough, and everybody's sitting around the table

739
00:55:55.639 --> 00:55:59.480
saying, Okay, we're gonna we're
gonna try to get you the most money

740
00:55:59.679 --> 00:56:04.639
that we can get you, and
we also want you to understand that the

741
00:56:04.639 --> 00:56:08.480
more money you get, the more
we get. So it's not like an

742
00:56:08.519 --> 00:56:10.440
agent. So you would have to
if I'm in the jury, you would

743
00:56:10.480 --> 00:56:16.559
have to make me believe that this
agent is trying to get the most money

744
00:56:16.559 --> 00:56:22.320
he can to pay for his boat
and everything. But if the client's black,

745
00:56:22.440 --> 00:56:29.320
he'll pull back a little because it's
just not right to ask for that

746
00:56:29.400 --> 00:56:36.159
much money because we all understand that, you know, given the situation,

747
00:56:37.000 --> 00:56:39.280
he shouldn't have as much money as
a white person. Does he think a

748
00:56:39.320 --> 00:56:44.679
jury is going to go for that? And the answer, by your eyes

749
00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:46.760
is no, no, that's no, a jury won't go for that.

750
00:56:46.840 --> 00:56:51.960
But that doesn't it doesn't mean that
he doesn't have the right to sue.

751
00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:58.000
Well, what about I'd like to
use in the case like this is the

752
00:56:58.039 --> 00:57:02.559
courts are there for the people who
don't have access to justice on their own.

753
00:57:02.679 --> 00:57:09.000
So the court comes in and is
for every man and the underprivileged to

754
00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:15.360
fight the power. And if you
clog the courts with cases from people who

755
00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:21.480
are making three hundred and fifty thousand
dollars an episode so that they can I

756
00:57:21.599 --> 00:57:24.360
like it to say, it's the
millionaires trying to become billionaires and now they're

757
00:57:24.360 --> 00:57:30.760
going to use the court system to
do it. It could be described as

758
00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:37.679
wrong, and you know, he
he's using the courts in a way that

759
00:57:37.719 --> 00:57:43.119
they can be used. But morally, I think you should let someone else

760
00:57:43.159 --> 00:57:47.239
have access to justice and kind of
just move on to your next You're also

761
00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:52.880
like in Hollywood in general, it's
not your first deal that's going to get

762
00:57:52.880 --> 00:57:57.719
your rich. You're second or third
deal, So just you don't cry so

763
00:57:57.840 --> 00:58:00.320
much about your first deal. And
this is not his first. It might

764
00:58:00.320 --> 00:58:02.440
be a second or third deal,
but three hundred and fifty thousand an episode.

765
00:58:02.679 --> 00:58:07.440
He's a superstar, and you know, maybe you should have got profits,

766
00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:09.519
but wow, you know, you
move on, You move on to

767
00:58:09.559 --> 00:58:13.000
your next show, and you get
them. There's no reason why he can't

768
00:58:13.000 --> 00:58:17.679
get a million in episode someday,
likely like other people that have gotten those

769
00:58:17.679 --> 00:58:22.559
fears. There's no there's no reason
why he can't. So my advice to

770
00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:28.320
you, Terrence is look to the
future and get to a million dollars and

771
00:58:28.360 --> 00:58:34.000
get those profits, but or produce
your own shows and get those profits.

772
00:58:35.320 --> 00:58:37.880
But this is a way to not
get to a million dollars. Because he

773
00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:40.400
even said, he goes, I
may never work again because I'm doing this.

774
00:58:40.440 --> 00:58:45.599
I'm going after the most powerful agency. And this agency has does have

775
00:58:45.679 --> 00:58:47.800
power. Yeah, and they And
let's say a movie comes out and says

776
00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:52.840
this is a movie. We've already
got Terrence Howard attached. We want to

777
00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:59.039
go after this CAAA client of yours. Let's say it's Florence Pugh. I

778
00:58:59.039 --> 00:59:01.159
don't know who a re agent is, but we want Florence Peugh to be

779
00:59:01.440 --> 00:59:07.920
in this show with with with Terren
Toward. How's that gonna go? Sam?

780
00:59:07.880 --> 00:59:12.119
Not well, no, no oh, we have a TV show.

781
00:59:12.119 --> 00:59:15.800
It's a million in episode, but
it's not for you. We have another

782
00:59:15.800 --> 00:59:21.920
one one hundred one thousand in episode, and we we will put Florence Pew

783
00:59:21.960 --> 00:59:25.119
in that one because there's only eleven
one point one million available for the cast,

784
00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:28.400
and we're gonna give a one million
to Florence Pugh. We're gonna give

785
00:59:28.400 --> 00:59:34.000
a hundred thousand to Terrence Howard because
we hate him and he sued us and

786
00:59:34.039 --> 00:59:37.239
he called us racist, and we're
the most powerful agency in the business.

787
00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:39.840
So if he would have called me, I would have advised against this,

788
00:59:40.000 --> 00:59:45.159
and I would think he would he
would someday he could get He's a great

789
00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:46.559
actor. He was in wo was
in Hustle and Flow. What a great

790
00:59:46.559 --> 00:59:52.320
movie A long time ago Greig Brewer
film. He hit his peak right off

791
00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:55.119
the bat, though, Yeah,
he like his critical peak was right off

792
00:59:55.199 --> 00:59:59.559
the bat. He was great anyway
he would he could, he could get

793
00:59:59.559 --> 01:00:01.039
there, but the I don't know
if this is the best way to get

794
01:00:01.039 --> 01:00:06.559
there. He also had problems when
they got him this show. He had

795
01:00:06.719 --> 01:00:09.800
a restraining order against him for domestic
violence against his wife, Michelle Howard.

796
01:00:10.519 --> 01:00:15.639
She claims that he abused her throughout
their short marriage, even threatening to kill

797
01:00:15.639 --> 01:00:20.039
her. That's her version of it. But the agents, I'm not saying

798
01:00:20.039 --> 01:00:22.079
that's true. There's no evidence that
I see, you know, just she

799
01:00:22.159 --> 01:00:25.920
said he said whatever. But that's
what his agents had to go through.

800
01:00:27.760 --> 01:00:29.760
And then they had to say,
hey, look I got Terrence Howard.

801
01:00:29.760 --> 01:00:31.159
He's mprobably know, he's got some
problems in the past. None of that

802
01:00:31.199 --> 01:00:32.880
was true, blah blah blah.
What he got for him. I got

803
01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:38.840
three fifteen episode. Wow, that's
pretty good. And do they throw out

804
01:00:38.840 --> 01:00:44.840
a figure that he thinks would justify
his value. Not yet, because I

805
01:00:44.840 --> 01:00:49.280
would like to I'd be curious to
know what his market price. He just

806
01:00:49.280 --> 01:00:52.719
says there's a lot of wealth there, that there's so much that there was

807
01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:55.760
for a while there was fifteen million
viewers, so that the generated wealth from

808
01:00:55.840 --> 01:01:00.880
the advertising revenue should be shared with
him. Now they don't share advertising revenue

809
01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:07.079
with anybody, So what they share
is what your profits come from is not

810
01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:14.599
from advertising revenue. It's from syndication
revenue. Because when you sell a show

811
01:01:14.639 --> 01:01:17.159
to a TV series, they're barely
paying for the cost of the show.

812
01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:21.840
They might even be underpaying for the
cost of the show. But when you

813
01:01:21.880 --> 01:01:27.639
sell it in its afterlife, all
the Empire episodes, if they're on My

814
01:01:27.840 --> 01:01:34.039
TV or Cozy TV or even Netflix
for a few years, that's going to

815
01:01:34.119 --> 01:01:37.320
generate some money, and that money
would be shared with the profit participants.

816
01:01:37.679 --> 01:01:42.599
It's arguable whether he should have got
that or not, but it's one of

817
01:01:42.639 --> 01:01:47.480
those things where you can go forward
and you can get it next time,

818
01:01:49.199 --> 01:01:54.000
or you can sue these people and
call them races. And I guess the

819
01:01:54.079 --> 01:02:00.480
idea is enough is enough, I'm
going to sacrifice my career to oh that

820
01:02:00.559 --> 01:02:04.480
this happens to other people of color
and they've got and we've got to stop.

821
01:02:05.079 --> 01:02:07.400
I think that's his point. He's
doing it. He's taken one for

822
01:02:07.440 --> 01:02:09.800
the team. He doesn't mind if
his career suffers because he's gonna do it

823
01:02:09.840 --> 01:02:16.280
for actors coming forward. Do not
treat other actors of color like this.

824
01:02:16.920 --> 01:02:22.480
And if white people get profits,
everybody gets profits if they're talented actors.

825
01:02:22.760 --> 01:02:24.119
I'm sure that's what he would tell
you he's doing, and he's and it's

826
01:02:24.119 --> 01:02:28.599
a noble thing. I'm not smart
enough to know whether in the long run

827
01:02:28.679 --> 01:02:31.840
that's a more noble thing. The
guys who are being called racist to them,

828
01:02:31.880 --> 01:02:37.239
they're just like, I'm gonna probably
get out of this business and get

829
01:02:37.280 --> 01:02:39.159
into the felt industry or something.
I can just you know, working on

830
01:02:39.239 --> 01:02:45.480
his day without someone trying to destroy
me with accusations like this. Ah.

831
01:02:46.840 --> 01:02:51.800
The felt industry is a growth industry, you know what. It's a it's

832
01:02:51.840 --> 01:02:54.000
a good business. There's a there's
a good business. The filth industry.

833
01:02:54.000 --> 01:02:59.079
You get a lot of benefits and
all the markers you can handle, and

834
01:02:59.119 --> 01:03:04.960
you can you can you help children
because sometimes you know, they make those

835
01:03:05.679 --> 01:03:09.599
felt uh storyboard hour, you know
you here's the sun, you know,

836
01:03:09.639 --> 01:03:15.000
and then here's the here's the bird
flying by. Those are fun, beauty,

837
01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:17.159
Thanks Sam for making it beautiful.
Towards the end, here we got

838
01:03:17.159 --> 01:03:39.960
one more segment coming up. Joe'scalante
Live from Hollywood continues, Yeah, Joe,

839
01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:47.480
ask Colorante. Here's my lawyer.
You don't want Joe'scalante Live from Hollywood

840
01:03:49.159 --> 01:03:52.360
by Hollywood, you means bird Bank. All right, I've got a lot

841
01:03:52.400 --> 01:03:54.800
of stuff to cover before we get
out of here. Uh. The we

842
01:03:54.800 --> 01:04:00.800
were talking earlier about January first,
Mickey Mouse goes in to blic domain this

843
01:04:00.920 --> 01:04:04.239
January first, twenty twenty four,
Mickey Mouse from the Steamboat Willie era.

844
01:04:04.440 --> 01:04:09.559
Though, So don't be running around
getting crazy with the guy, you know,

845
01:04:09.639 --> 01:04:12.320
the guy in the wizard hat.
None of that. It's just the

846
01:04:12.360 --> 01:04:16.280
old rat faced one. A lot
of stuff goes into public domain every year.

847
01:04:16.400 --> 01:04:21.360
And mister Broadway Pantry were talking about
the Great Gatsby recently went into public

848
01:04:21.400 --> 01:04:27.199
domain. Yes, yes it did. And so now there are two musicals

849
01:04:27.199 --> 01:04:31.519
that are gonna make make their attempt
at reaching Broadway from two different production companies.

850
01:04:32.599 --> 01:04:36.719
One ran in October in New Jersey
at the paper Mill Playhouse and that

851
01:04:36.840 --> 01:04:42.239
started Evan Noble Azzada of Hadestown fame. And then the other one will be

852
01:04:42.320 --> 01:04:45.679
premiering in Cambridge in twenty twenty four
from the American Repertory Theater, and that

853
01:04:45.719 --> 01:04:50.599
one's just called Gatsby. Gats Now
was there or the is the first Broadway

854
01:04:50.639 --> 01:04:56.599
treatments of the of the Great Gatsby? To my knowledge it is. I

855
01:04:56.639 --> 01:05:00.079
know there is an immersive theater off
Broadway immersive production of the Great Gatspeed,

856
01:05:00.320 --> 01:05:03.239
but I don't know if there's ever
been a Broadway show. As long as

857
01:05:03.239 --> 01:05:10.400
there's not an immersive rent, then
I'll be okay, okay, well yeah,

858
01:05:10.440 --> 01:05:13.840
so And the one thing to keep
in mind about Mickey Mouse in the

859
01:05:14.559 --> 01:05:18.159
as your attorney, I have to
advise you there's still a trademark on Mickey

860
01:05:18.199 --> 01:05:24.000
Mouse for theme parks. So this
isn't like you can associate Mickey Mouse with

861
01:05:24.039 --> 01:05:30.039
your product. You know, you
can't say I've got Mickey Mouse cupcakes or

862
01:05:30.079 --> 01:05:34.960
whatever Mickey Mouse rave I'm putting on
or whatever. They have a trademark.

863
01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:39.760
They have so many trademarks they will
come after you. But so you could

864
01:05:39.840 --> 01:05:45.039
take the rat face Mickey mouse and
you could put them on something and get

865
01:05:45.039 --> 01:05:47.119
away with it. But you got
to be really careful because just because you

866
01:05:47.280 --> 01:05:50.440
think you're following all the rules doesn't
mean they won't send you a cease and

867
01:05:50.480 --> 01:05:55.840
desist and just make your life hell. So you got to be careful with

868
01:05:55.880 --> 01:05:58.159
that kind of stuff. All right, back to what we were talking about

869
01:05:58.199 --> 01:06:09.840
before with Terrence what's his name,
Terrence Howard and some we got another case.

870
01:06:10.360 --> 01:06:12.239
Well, actually this one doesn't have
anything to do with that one.

871
01:06:12.280 --> 01:06:17.400
This one involves fifty Cent. He's
developing a documentary on the P Diddy allegations,

872
01:06:17.440 --> 01:06:20.960
because you know P Diddy has got
a lot of women suing them for

873
01:06:21.079 --> 01:06:25.800
sexual assault, and isn't that weird? Like fifty Cent's going to take the

874
01:06:25.840 --> 01:06:30.440
lead on this very strange. Yeah, So I mean, why would you

875
01:06:30.440 --> 01:06:32.079
want to, like, why would
you want to do that? And you're

876
01:06:32.119 --> 01:06:35.199
gonna make any money? Well,
actually this thing might make money. He

877
01:06:35.559 --> 01:06:41.719
put on Twitter that he is going
to proceeds from this documentary will go to

878
01:06:41.840 --> 01:06:47.119
victims of sexual assault and rape very
good, not just sexual assault, also

879
01:06:47.199 --> 01:06:53.639
rape very good. We got to
support those shorties. You know, yeah,

880
01:06:54.119 --> 01:06:58.159
okay, so I just thought that
was weird. I just thought that

881
01:06:58.239 --> 01:07:06.440
was weird. Now we got another
story about trying to like get to everything

882
01:07:10.159 --> 01:07:14.519
Adam McKay's don't look up. Did
anybody here see it? Uh no,

883
01:07:14.599 --> 01:07:16.920
but I remember you telling me about
your feelings about it. I thought it

884
01:07:16.960 --> 01:07:20.119
was good. A lot of people
said it was uh. You know,

885
01:07:20.880 --> 01:07:25.880
Leonardo DiCaprio in it, and he's
always good. And it was one of

886
01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:28.880
those streaming movies like during the pandemic. You're like, hey, we don't

887
01:07:28.880 --> 01:07:32.400
have to go to the theater,
We're going to watch premiere Hollywood Entertainment right

888
01:07:32.440 --> 01:07:35.880
here in our homes. And I
had didn't have a problem with it.

889
01:07:36.039 --> 01:07:39.840
Some people thought it was dumb.
I'm one of those people. You thought

890
01:07:39.840 --> 01:07:45.440
it was dumb, mister Broadway and
hester didn't care for it. But there's

891
01:07:45.440 --> 01:07:47.880
a problem. So we don't know
how much it made. It was on

892
01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:55.239
Netflix. They didn't really tell you. But in twenty twelve, a Louisiana

893
01:07:55.280 --> 01:08:03.360
Baths author published a book called Stanley's
Comment and he claims they stole his book.

894
01:08:05.119 --> 01:08:10.320
He says they just and then okay, what do you okay? Could

895
01:08:10.320 --> 01:08:13.559
that be true? What do you
have to have. What are the two

896
01:08:13.599 --> 01:08:16.560
things we must have for a copyright
infringement case. Well, I don't expect

897
01:08:16.600 --> 01:08:23.000
you to remember, but number one
is we need substantial similarity. Are these

898
01:08:23.039 --> 01:08:31.000
products or these works substantially similar?
Meaning could it would it be too hard

899
01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:36.159
to believe that they were independently created. One of them had to copy from

900
01:08:36.199 --> 01:08:41.760
the other. So to the point
where you say, oh, they are

901
01:08:41.800 --> 01:08:45.600
substantially similar in a legal sense,
okay, so you have to have that.

902
01:08:46.079 --> 01:08:49.399
The number one is you have to
have access. The one person had

903
01:08:49.399 --> 01:08:54.119
to have access to the material.
So if you send it to somebody and

904
01:08:54.119 --> 01:08:56.159
they say, oh, thank you
very much, and then they make something

905
01:08:56.319 --> 01:09:01.640
very similar, that's the access.
If you if it was widely disseminated and

906
01:09:01.680 --> 01:09:08.920
published and everybody saw it, like
maybe the movie Star Wars. Everybody had

907
01:09:08.960 --> 01:09:13.199
access to Star Wars. So that
we assume the axis is there substantial similarity

908
01:09:13.520 --> 01:09:18.920
we're gonna for the tryers of fact
maybe to discover. And it's kind of

909
01:09:18.960 --> 01:09:21.760
like it. It couldn't have been
independently thought of, you know, like

910
01:09:21.800 --> 01:09:25.600
monkeys in a typewriter, monkeys in
a room with the type of a thousand,

911
01:09:25.640 --> 01:09:28.319
monkeys with a thousand typewriters, and
they all work, and it goes

912
01:09:28.359 --> 01:09:30.039
on for a long time, and
the monkeys live long enough to spit out

913
01:09:30.079 --> 01:09:32.199
some Shakespeare. It's a lot of
work hours. Yeah, it's a lot

914
01:09:32.199 --> 01:09:38.239
of work hours, and there's no
lost time accidents. Then you could if

915
01:09:38.239 --> 01:09:41.399
that, if it couldn't happen that
way, then you have substantial similarity.

916
01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:47.079
In this case, the access that
William Caller is is asserting is that he

917
01:09:47.920 --> 01:09:53.399
gave it to this one girl who
gave it to this one guy who worked

918
01:09:53.560 --> 01:10:00.399
for the company that represented Adam McKay, And so there is a little chain

919
01:10:00.359 --> 01:10:06.079
and it was sent over there,
and you could infer that it was sent

920
01:10:06.159 --> 01:10:10.319
there to his representative. He got
a chance to look at it. That's

921
01:10:10.399 --> 01:10:13.119
if you're trying the other if you're
Adam McKay or so, I didn't see

922
01:10:13.119 --> 01:10:15.880
that book. I don't read everything
book that comes into my my manager's office.

923
01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:19.399
I don't know who this guy is. So where did the idea come

924
01:10:19.399 --> 01:10:24.439
from? So if there's a lawsuit, he'd have to reveal, Well,

925
01:10:24.439 --> 01:10:29.039
here's where I got it from.
I thought of it very creative, and

926
01:10:29.079 --> 01:10:32.159
Adam McKay is very creative. Now, what about the substantial similarity as I

927
01:10:32.279 --> 01:10:35.279
have gone over this thing, so
you don't have to. It looks to

928
01:10:35.319 --> 01:10:44.520
me like there's no smoking gun.
It's just, well, there's a guy

929
01:10:45.520 --> 01:10:49.680
who discovers that a comment's going to
land on the earth and he's trying to

930
01:10:49.680 --> 01:10:51.800
tell everybody, Hey, everybody,
you got to pay attention to this,

931
01:10:51.880 --> 01:10:57.479
and for political reasons, they ignore
him, and then you know the comment's

932
01:10:57.520 --> 01:11:02.680
coming and m mister Brody pinch.
Do you think two people could think of

933
01:11:02.720 --> 01:11:08.119
that same plot if they've seen the
movie armyged In? Ooh ooh possibly oh

934
01:11:08.279 --> 01:11:11.880
sick per sicker. Yeah, it's
that kind of thing where you kind of

935
01:11:11.880 --> 01:11:13.880
go back. Or maybe he didn't
steal from them, maybe he stole it

936
01:11:13.880 --> 01:11:19.279
from someone else. Yeah, So
we'll follow this story and keep you up

937
01:11:19.279 --> 01:11:23.760
to date on who's gonna win and
whether this guy's going to get a pay

938
01:11:23.840 --> 01:11:27.199
day or they're gonna because if they, you know, because he either fight

939
01:11:27.239 --> 01:11:29.840
if you're Adam and Kay, either
fight it like screw that guy, or

940
01:11:29.880 --> 01:11:30.560
you're like, well, I just
give him some money, but then I'm

941
01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:33.640
gonna have to admit that I stole
it, So that's how these things go.

942
01:11:33.800 --> 01:11:36.399
Or he has to share his story
about how he came up with the

943
01:11:36.479 --> 01:11:40.960
idea. Yeah, maybe that's not
a pretty story. No, maybe he

944
01:11:41.079 --> 01:11:45.600
stole it from a child something that
was Yeah, yeah, starving African child.

945
01:11:45.960 --> 01:11:49.279
That would be even worse. All
right, So, Uh, anyway,

946
01:11:49.319 --> 01:11:53.720
we're gonna wrap up things here pretty
soon, and I want to let

947
01:11:53.720 --> 01:11:57.000
you know that the Vandal's Christmas Show
is sold out at the at the Anaheim

948
01:11:58.399 --> 01:12:04.039
Uh how the Blues. It's sold
out really early this year, so you're

949
01:12:04.079 --> 01:12:06.640
not going to get to see that
there if you don't already have tickets.

950
01:12:06.760 --> 01:12:12.680
But we added a second night at
the Ventura, the Majestic Ventura Theater in

951
01:12:12.760 --> 01:12:15.279
Ventura, California. It's a nice
spot, right, so you can see

952
01:12:15.279 --> 01:12:19.600
it there. And there's a million
tickets available for that. I mean not

953
01:12:19.640 --> 01:12:23.399
a million, but there's some.
By the time you're hearing this in the

954
01:12:23.399 --> 01:12:26.880
podcast, that could be gone,
so you better hurry. The entire population

955
01:12:26.920 --> 01:12:30.000
of Ventura County will be there.
All the Nardcourt people we have will be

956
01:12:30.039 --> 01:12:32.960
there. We have to celebrate Josh's
birthday. Yeah, Josh Frees, our

957
01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:39.760
drummer, was born on Christmas Day
and that's always special. And this year

958
01:12:39.800 --> 01:12:45.399
the theme of the Christmas shows is
fruitcake delicious. I was thinking we could

959
01:12:45.399 --> 01:12:48.880
start calling it Josh Miss Josh Miss. Keep working on that, all right,

960
01:12:49.039 --> 01:12:54.079
I'll run it through some people and
see if we can come up with

961
01:12:54.119 --> 01:12:59.239
something better. That's pretty good.
See my nephew over here, mister brodbay

962
01:12:59.239 --> 01:13:00.880
pants beat you there, you go, all right? Let's I now will

963
01:13:01.479 --> 01:13:05.760
leave you with just a taste of
the greatest song ever written. What would feel

