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teen Girl Talk, Bean Girl Talk
I'm Suzi Koda, my friend Coda,

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and this week we are Twilight Eclipse. Yes, the one where they get

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engage. Yes, because you because
you can't make love about being engaged.

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According Stephanie Meyer, oh my gosh, So do you know what I forgot

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about this movie? When she's like, hey, I want to do it

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as a human and he's like I
can't, and she's like try He's like

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nope, and I'm just like okay, okay, okay. Are we supposed

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to assume that Edward has not been
attracted to a human or another person or

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any of that in a hundred and
six years. Yeah, Frank's logical,

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Edward is a pure flower. Who
now that I'm thinking about it, you

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know, we're living through all those
years. How does he have a passport?

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I know? Like how well,
Okay, I'm actually not surprised he

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has a passport because they have so
much money, Like, of course they're

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traveling internationally, yes, and they
have fake identities. Wait now I'm confused

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why you are shocked he is a
passport because I'm just thinking about he must

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like he was dying of Spanish flu. Where he was dying of Spanish flu.

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But I'm pretty sure it was not
America. So he comes over here.

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Yes, and we see him go
to Italy last movie. Yes,

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And I'm just saying, look,
he's been to Italy, He's been to

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all these places, and we know
women are attracted to him. Jessica that

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one waitress Brank. Literally everyone who
is attracted to people is attracted to him.

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I was about to say men,
but I don't even think. I

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like, I think other men who
probably identify as straight, Jacob included,

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are attracted to Edward Colin. Let's
just say every human on earth is attracted

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to Edward Colin. Yes, except
for my friend Beth. She does not

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find him attractive, which I find
shocking. It's like her hottest take Wow.

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I know She's like, I just
don't get it, and I'm like,

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I love you deeply, but this
is a canyon we cannot cross.

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But the thing is, what I'm
saying is there are many beautiful ladies across

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the world, ladies, yeah,
and you know all of them want him

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for his body, and he's not
about Okay, there's I feel like I'm

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with you up into a point and
then you say something and I'm like,

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wait, what if we were on
the same path. I'm going, I'm

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going, I'm going somewhere with this. Okay, why are you saying these

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women only want him for his body? I also like his brooding. Have

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you seen people talk to him besides
his family or Bella for more than ten

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minutes. No, but this is
a movie about how he's obsessed with Bella

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and like completely because she comfortable,
boy tolerates him Edward Edward. Edward is

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a like the port of the Mona
Lisa if it let out a high pitched

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noise constantly. We're like, yeah, it's good to look at, but

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boy, that noise is hard to
listen to. Here's the thing, though,

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Frank, I think the people who
are attracted to Edward are just projecting

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whatever they want on to him.
I don't think they care about whether he's

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annoying or not. Well, this
is what I'm saying, Like they are

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projecting that they're attracted him. They
start talking about projecting that they're attracted him,

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they're attracted to him. Okay,
well, this is what I'm saying.

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They're attracted to him, But you're
saying they're projecting what they want onto

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him. Yeah, that's because then
he speaks and doesn't speak. Yeah,

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he's not gonna see it broods.
Yes, but then but like you can't

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initiate anything unless you speak to him. Okay, I feel like this is

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a riddle. You start want to
get to the bottom of it. So

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I am what I'm saying is Edward
is exhausting, and you can be the

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most attractive person on the planet.
And if you're exhausting, we actually wait.

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My friends and I actually play a
game called deal Breakers. And the

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game of deal breakers is what would
like, you know, stop you from

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making out with somebody, like they
are just pure physical attraction. But then

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you had to throw in a deal
breaker and like, you know, I've

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been like, okay, most of
tried to person you've ever seen. They

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want to make out, but you
have they have you have to listen to

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them talk for two hours about crypto
Okay, Like do you go for it?

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Yes or no? Yes? Like
I feel like this is a question

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for people who have never had to
tolerate Tinder dating. Like that's what Tinder

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dating is. You have to listen
to people talk about cryptocurrency if you want

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to date them, because they're like
people of ineligible age or into dumb tech

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stuff. I'm allowed to say that
freely now because Crypto went under. Yeah,

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what I'm saying is just that like
if they're projecting their thoughts, they

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find and we're attractive, He's not
going to find them attractive because they just

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want him for his body. And
then like the one person who can actually

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listen to him to speak for more
than twenty minutes is the one person he

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becomes absessed with. Okay, so
here's the other thing about Edward though,

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is he's like, yes, you're
attracted to me, but it's because of

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my vampire like my vampire status.
Like when he's you know, during the

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whole this is the skin of a
killer thing, He's like, everything about

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me is designed to draw you in. You know, my face, my

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voice, all of it. So
Edward in saying that, undoes your entire

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theory that he's annoying. Like,
according to Edward, his voice when he

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dagns to use it, which is
rarely, it's supposed to draw you in.

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You're not supposed to be like,
oh, he's a butter voice,

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like you know, it's not.
I think what we're missing about Edward is

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that Edward is just not like interested
in being intimate, like he says he's

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even with Bella like on it.
I mean, we haven't, and maybe

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I will revise my theory when we
get to Breaking Dawn one and two,

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because that's you know, they're married, they consummate whatever. But from my

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hazy memory, I'm pretty sure they
get married immediately or pregnant immediately, and

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that's kind of the end of the
intimacy. So I feel except for all

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of the talk about intimacy, so
I feel like Edward really just wants to

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talk about things more than he wants
to do things. I mean, the

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thing is, with like Edward,
he could have just been Ace and that

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would have actually like, I mean, we didn't weren't really talking about it

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that back then, but that has
been really cool, like to have just

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like, hey, you know,
the most you know, like iconic you

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know, lover boy in young adult
history right now. It's just like I'm

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just purely in this because I love
you and you know, and there's there's

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nothing wrong with the physical relationship.
There's nothing wrong with not having physical relationship.

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But I think that would just make
it more interesting if it's not just

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like I am, if it wasn't
so confoundingly weird that he lived through,

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as we said, before the sexual
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and he's just like, now,
Dice, you've got to put a

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ring on it. Like Beyonce,
I said, well, I would just

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thought it way cool if you're just
like no, I'm just not into that.

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And Belle's like, okay, cool, this is, you know,

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something we have to work out between
us. But I still love you,

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so I'm going to you know,
I want to put in the effort to

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work it out with you, you
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he could be demisexual, and you
know, say, like I find it

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very difficult to have intimacy with someone
that I don't feel like intellectually and spiritually

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and emotionally connected to. That would
also make sense. But Edward's thing is

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just like in the like when he
starts talking about her soul in this one

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and saving her soul, I was
like, what is Edward Christian? Because

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as far as we have yes,
I get that Stephanie Meyers is Mormon or

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is she formerly Mormon? Is she
actively Mormon? I don't know, so

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which is fine. It is fine
to be religious, but this is a

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new wrinkle to Edwards character. Edward
has literally never mentioned spirituality, like being

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religious, being Christian or any of
the other faiths. That sort of dame

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that you have to be married before
you like sleep with one another. So

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I'm like, are we supposed to
now interpret this as cannon that Edward is

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Christian qui shark? And also is
his faith? See, this is something

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I'd also be interested in it.
It's his faith complicated by the fact that

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he's a vampire. See. This
is the problem with Twilight is there's so

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many more interesting ways that you could
take this, and like you they just

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don't. Like, you know,
Kay Applegate says that if she was writing

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the animals now, there would have
been way more LGBTQ representation and it and

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she's like, we just didn't know
about it. That was just not something

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we considered back then. And because
you know, people were saying, like

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they see Tobias as a trans character
even though you know he goes just from

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person to hawk, but like,
you know, he feels much more comfortable

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as a hawk than he ever does
a human. And she's like, that's

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how you see it. Go right
ahead. I think that's awesome. But

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yeah, so there's so much,
just so much art untumbler about which characters

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or trans in Twilight, which I
love. Like I was like sure,

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absolutely, Okay, So this actually
brings me to a very interesting part of

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my history is um, I you
know, grew up in the wilds to

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fanfiction dot net back in the early
auds, you know, before there was

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a big conversation around LGBTQ, like
you know, concepts and you know,

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obviously trans people have been around for
hundreds of years, you know, but

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it was always so longer than hundreds. Yeah, I'm sure I'm will balling

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it thousands, you know, as
well as as long as there's been people

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around, it's been happening. Um, But like you you'd see, like

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it was way more difficult back in
the day, you know, to find

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um a lot of fanfiction that was
you know, basically susgendered because like you

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know, and I'm not this is
not me complaining about that. It was

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just I'm just trying to make a
statement. Yeah, it's an observation.

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Yeah, you know, because I
go through them and I wouldn't read them

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because like I don't relate to this, you know, Like, but it

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was just like it was so fascinating
to see these people like, I'm claiming

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this person as my own because nobody
else is making, you know, representing

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me, so I will represent myself. M What characters were like prevalent in

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in that um like vein of writing. Oh, a lot of the Harry

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Potter series. Um, oh god, that's heartbreaking. Yeah, which is

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you know, one of the biggest
feelings of betrayal. I have, like

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going through this because like a lot
of the kids, you know, you,

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Harry Potter's story is one of feeling
and yeah, there was a lot

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of Twilight also, I don't know, you know, Stephanie Meyers um politics

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on that. So I'm not gonna
presuppose anything. But it's just like these

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stories where there are people who are
out of place, who didn't feel comfortable

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and at word never looks like he
feels comfortable of anything, you know,

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and they would just you know,
I mean a narrative of being othered.

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Yeah, and so like Hogwarts or
among the Colon family or being a vampire

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felt like a safe space. You're
in a world that did not feel safe

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for them, you know. Um. Anyway, it bums me out,

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you know, thinking about like the
Harry those Harry Potter fans and what's been

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going on lately. Um, And
I hope they're okay, you know,

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um, because and I know that's
just like, well, this is it's

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it's hard to have you know,
something that comforted you with like turn against

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you. Um. So I read
a really interesting UM post recently. What

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is there there's like a Harry Potter
TV show coming out or something. Yeah,

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so all of it's getting stirred up
again. And there were two opposing

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opinions, one saying like, you
cannot support this because to support this is

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to support anti trans sentiment. And
someone replied to that and said, I

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don't agree. There are people in
my life that are Harry Potter fans and

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that it means something to them and
their children, Like they grew up with

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it, their children are now experiencing
it, and they are allies. They

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support me. They you know,
and the choices I make, and you

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know the way I identify and to
paint with such a wide brush that anyone

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who enjoys Harry Potter is transphobic is
counterintuitive. It's not helpful because there are

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potential allies that are just getting swept
in with this garbage. And I thought

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that was a really interesting point because
like my I guess, like coming from

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sort of an activist background, it's
like, well, how to affect change.

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The easiest way is money, So
like, if you don't support something,

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they get the message right, like
it adds up the more people that

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don't support it, etc. But
then I'm like working in the library and

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seeing young kids come in and you
know, they're so obsessed with Harry Potter

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and it means something to them,
and I like, I don't want to

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think that from them either, So
then I'm caught between being like JK.

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Rowling's politics are absolutely hot trash garbage, and I also don't understand all of

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the reckoning she did that was like
weird, like the magic and away poop

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and all of that that was totally
THEO was like nuts on like a different

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level, like not as important but
equally no, I don't want to say

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equally confusing, like trans rights are
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to the character she created, But
like I feel so conflicted because I don't

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want to support her yucky politics,
but at the same time, I do

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want people to feel be able to
feel things through literature without me being like

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gross, I can't believe you like
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because that's not fairy either, So
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I'm I'm torn. Well, the
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author, you know, like and
it's I mean, if we got rid

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of every like music, you know, if you get rid of everyone who

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is problematic in music, you're maybe
listening to like Taylor Swift and like one

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other and like listener. It depends
on who you talk to, right,

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yeah, because there are plenty of
people who had issues to Taylor at some

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point. So it's like I need
to be famous, I think is to

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have a complicated relationship with like politics
and belief because it's complicated. But I

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just the she didn't settle that shit. Yeah, the thing is and I

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do agree with you, but like
the way I see it is, yes,

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like maybe don't you don't have to
spend a crap ton of money at

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the Harry Potter World theme park,
which I don't know if that benefits her

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in any way. She got a
ton. Well, the reason it was

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built at Universal I know this from
watching defunct Land Universal and not um Disney

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is because she wants. J K. Rowling was like, I want a

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full train replica, and Disney was
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spend the money for that, and
Universals like absolutely, whatever you want,

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you get a train, A train
will run through it or whatever. I'm

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paraphrasing them, And then they made
a billion dollars a day from Harry Potter

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World. Yes, and that's why. Actually this might have been from the

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Jenny Nicholson video about the Avatar World. Yeah. What what I'm getting at

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is, you know, is there
is it bad? You know it like

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is Harry Potter, you know,
problematic? Yes, if you look at

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it through certain lenses, like the
Goblins and all these other things are not

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the best, but there's still a
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reading. And the hope and like, you know, the thing is also

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there is other stuff out there,
you know, like made by the far

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right that is meant to influence you
and change you. And you know,

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maybe Harry Potter is that to a
small extent, like I said, with

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the goblins, and like the other
words, legacy plays into the blood right,

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you know, anti Semitic legend a
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that these people, Like, there's
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things who got their start in fan
fiction writing Harry Potter fan fiction. One

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of my favorite authors, Sarah Reese
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trilogy of books, she started writing
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those books are very inclusive. They're
amazing, and you know, it's just

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and you look at other places like, yes, like you have people who

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create things that aren't great, but
then they inspire people who will make inclusive

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things that will make great things.
You know, and do the original authors

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get that much credit? They get
a smith in the credit, But we

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should really just appreciate the people who
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That's fair. That makes Yeah,
that makes a lot of sense because like

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I think it's hard to not sort
of end up in um like a very

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myopic view, like just a sliver
of it and being like, well,

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with this sliver, is this a
problem? Is it? Okay? I

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know that we are not going to
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issue on the Twilight Eclipse episode,
but but you have you have to think

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how many people started got their start
writing from Twilight, you know, I

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mean true right, and then you
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this whole other like sort of a
bout of reading and so you know,

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and focusing on women's sexuality in a
way I don't think we've ever we ever

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really did before that, at least
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portrayed, talked about like it's not
exactly the safest but okay, but moving

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on. So it's been twenty minutes. Were not talking about the clips at

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all. We further said like about
generally, uh, problematic stuff is mixed.

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Yeah, so so let's get onto
onto the business. It's a lightning

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bolt, franc We're breaking new ground
here, so things and for once to

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get like whiny, I will say
there whiny. Everyone is whiney in the

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beginning of this movie. Charlie's whiney, Edward's whiney. I think the least

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whiney. That was like the most
like whatever, I'm gonna Bullie Edward into

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what I want. Charlie gets to
be whiny because for the third movie straight,

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he's chasing mysterious sir killers that are
murdering people is small town. I

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mean, okay, we all know
that. I love Charlie. I love

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mustache Dad. He's like barely a
cop in this one. But there's no

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evidence that this was done by a
human. Right, They're like, maybe

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a serial killer, maybe a bear. Bro it's the twenty first century.

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How are you not sure which it
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is an attacked by an animal or
if it's attacked by a human. So

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then you have to think he is
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he's no. Okay. So while
I was watching this movie, I was

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thinking about the game Persona four And
in PRISONA four you go, you're like

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a fifteen sixteen year old guy.
You go to live with your uncle and

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there is a serial killer on the
loose. Oh my god, people,

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what are these games? Frank?
They are confounding. Um. I thought

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they were just about dancing. No, that that's social points, that's the

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dancing ones are the spinoffs because Persona
four got too popular. Um. And

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yes, you make friends with people
and that helps you in battle, as

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you've solved the serial killer murders.
Um is dancing involved in solving the serial

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killer murders. No, that's a
clearly different thing. Um, but did

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you say clearly you cannot act as
if this is clear? I'm not sure

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if a different thing, but I
don't want to like definitively say I didn't

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because that might come back is gas
lighting. Um. But okay, so

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your uncle listen back to it.
You say, clearly clearly a different thing.

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Okay. Um. So um,
your uncle like it does not have

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excess to any in the magic stuff
that's going on, but he still is

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like on the trail of the killer. It gets very close to catching them,

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and he does start suspecting you because
the minute you show up in town,

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these murders start happening. And I
would have loved this scene, like

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my daughter shows up and people start
dying. Oh my god, that'd be

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so funny. Like you're like,
look, I'm a father first, but

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I'm also a con like you keep
she keeps disappearing and murders keep happening.

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It is true, she's like withdrawn
she's acting super shady true crime podcast or

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a thing. Bella Swan would definitely
be a subjective one though, because the

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other part is Bella like is the
Pucci of this movie. Like, when

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you think about it, all of
the inciting action happens because Bella kicked something

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off, can't protect herself, and
literally everybody in Forks is falling all over

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themselves to make sure she doesn't die
again. This is the d Wars Dragon

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Wars of vampire movies, where these
two idiots are running from giant dragons while

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thousands of people die. I believe
in Korea, and it's just like,

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I remember the road. Try to, like, please, so ten thousand

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people are dead, just give yourselves
to the dragon. And it's just like,

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how many people have to die for
Bella? How many people have to

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die? And he's like not enough. He's like everyone, I don't care

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as long as it's not her,
Like poor Bree Tanner, Well like Bree

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Tanner didn't hurt nobody who So there
is a novella called The Life and Death

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of Bree Tanner. Bree Tanner is
the scared vampire girl in this movie.

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Oh oh wow, And it's just
like it is so unfair what happens to

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her. I get that that's written. So we're like, oh, the

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Vultari is straight up evil, but
like the Collins, give it a half

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hearted try. To keep her alive, and the vultari are like, no

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dice, and the colons are like, what are you gonna do? They're

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gonna murder a child in front of
us? Like that really did not sit

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great with me this round. I
mean, we saw them do it,

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we saw our heroes do this before, when they're just like, oh,

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there goes a group of men women
and much blood on those calling hands.

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Again, really enforcing that if Charlie
wanted to do some not so great detective

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work, he could be like,
I don't know this trail of blood.

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It really leads back to my daughter. Very suspicious. Yeah, It's like

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his daughter comes back and reports not
a bear, it's a wolf. Nor

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not a serial killer, it's a
wolf. Like Charlie, there's no reason

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to believe her. Suspicious that murders
keep happening after your daughter told you it

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was a wolf and you know,
you never found the wolf, and the

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wolf seems to just have human bite
marks and people interesting Bella. I mean

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again, Frank, is that not
the craziest thing in this movie? Jasper

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shows his arm and he's like,
hey, some new bloods. Where are

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the new buds or newborns? Newborns
bit the shit out of me. The

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bites he shows on his hand are
clearly human teeth marks, which means that

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newborns, like newborn vampires, when
they bite you, it looks just like

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a human bit you. So these
murdered people that Charlie's finding are all human.

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Bit up and he's like, maybe
a bear, maybe a wolf.

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It's clearly a human, Charlie.
Yeah, um gosh, so it's great,

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Like we're at graduation, peach,
Charlie, how do you get?

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How do you like? I mean, he's the sheriff. That's like an

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elected position, isn't it. What
is the sheriff or is he chief?

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He's a chief? He should be
fired. Nonetheless, he's a good he's

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a good dad in a bad cough. Yeah, because Okay, so the

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body canon Forks went from not very
many to a skazillion, which if I

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was just a citizen of Forks,
Like let's say I'm on a Kendrick and

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people start dying everywhere, I'd be
like, hey, I think we should

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do some organizing because I'm pretty sure
the cops are not doing enough to keep

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us all from being murdered in our
beds. I think we should burn down

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the old col employs. Or here's
the other part, why don't we put

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some street lights up? Because it
seems like everyone keeps getting there's just for

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such a small town. Forks has
so many dark galleys for vampires are there

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in Seattle for most of it,
right, Yes, the vampire army is

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growing in Seattle then moving south.
Okay, so then really the only Forks

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mystery is Riley. Yes, Riley
was changed because he's a local and knows

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the area of Forks, which is
a town that I believe has about five

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thousand people in it. I don't
know the other part. Victoria probably knew

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Sporks just fine. She'd been hanging
out there for almost a year. Yeah,

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we see graduation in this film,
which means the calendar years past.

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Victoria's like, well, I don't
know these five streets well enough. I

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guess I should kill as citizens of
Forks now that I think about it,

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it makes no sense. I guess
she was like Bella was under the wolves

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protection because like there's like five months
when the columns are just gone where she

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could just easily kill Bella. Okay, here's the thing I'm gonna say,

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Victoria not that crafty it takes her
two years her year, Okay, so

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let's factor it out a year.
It's a solid year. I think it's

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almost a year and a half because
think of it, Bella must get two

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Forks. Is she's not as early
as January. I would say, it's

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like, yeah, Okay, she
arrives there in March, because like March

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February, because as Edward goes to
the office and he's like, I need

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to change classes and they're like,
you can't change glasses. Were halfway through

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the semester, and that's about yeah, January February, So she gets there.

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I would be an assumption that,
like that's when they're leaving. So

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he can go to for Try,
so his mom, her mom's boyfriend can

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go for spring training. Okay,
so so she gets count it back,

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so like let's say roughly it's February. So February, March, April,

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May, June. Graduation is happening. Victoria has been fucking around in Forks

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for a year and a half,
and it finds Bella to be so elusive,

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like she had her chance while the
Collins were gone, didn't do it.

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Waited a year. Now she had
to build an army to kill Bella.

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From what we've seen, Bella's fairly
toothless like. And also, I

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mean, I guess what a frank, I'm gonna say it, call it

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a hot take. Victoria like deserves
to have her head smashed like a ceramic

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doll. That effect was inexplicable.
I don't I don't remember the books well

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enough. I don't know why vampires
just shatter and make like ceramic noises Buffy

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because Buffy what. But I would
say probably they wanted to go for the

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same bloodless effect that happened in Buffy
when you stack of Vampire, Like when

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you stack of Vampire and Buffy,
they just turned the dust and the fall

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to the ground. I think there's
just like, we can't do them being

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dusted, but we can do them
shattering like last no blood, no fuss,

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no must We stayed a solid PGPG
thirteen rating. Yeah, that's fair.

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Also, why did they replace Victoria
with Bryce Dallas Howard? Probably because

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somebody maybe like the other actors,
just like, man, I'm out the

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biggest franchise at the time, Yeah
it was. I looked it up because

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I was like, well, that's
not the same Victoria. You're not the

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Victoria. I know, like this
Victor like Burstell's house, was like I

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need to get stuff done, so
I'm gonna come in. Um officially it

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was because of scheduling complex okay,
but the thing is also like she wanted

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to do I guess the up close
kill. But I'm just like, just

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buy a high powered rifle, just
like Bells getting off her dumb truck and

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then just like you know, take
her out a thousand yards. I mean,

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the newborn vampire army really does feel
like a hat on a hat.

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So much work? Yeah, all
right, UM's work smarter, not harder,

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Victoria, Come on, I have
to kill this one clutty girl who

406
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:07.400
managed lights yourself open at every turn. But I just can't do it.

407
00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:10.400
Yes, it's time to build a
vampire army and to build a bear.

408
00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:15.639
I had to just live with these. The mall is always open. Oh

409
00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:22.920
my god, why did we not
see Victoria build a bear? This is

410
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:29.559
all I desire. They're all pale
as they do the angry, always angry.

411
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:34.119
It's just just like this accessory,
this accessory, this accessory. Do

412
00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:38.119
you build a bears have accessories?
Yeah? You act like, I know,

413
00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:44.559
have you built a bear? So
back in um. Back in college,

414
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:51.679
I was part of a me Sarah's
fraternity and I had gotten some money

415
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:57.440
for my UM. I've gotten some
money for my birthday, and we're collecting

416
00:34:57.519 --> 00:35:01.639
money for this to get the young
girl a build a bear for her birthday.

417
00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:05.480
Yeah, because that shit's expensive.
Well, that was the thing.

418
00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:07.480
So I was like, oh,
cool, if I donate like sixty bucks,

419
00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:10.920
like we can get some really cool
stuff on there. And like I

420
00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:14.480
found the people collecting the money for
I'm like, oh, here, you

421
00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:16.280
can take the money. You're like, this is the entire bear. And

422
00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:19.760
I'm like, oh, like,
I just figured the more money that goes

423
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:22.800
into it, you get like lasers
and stuff like. No, this is

424
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:24.480
for the entire bear. I'm all
right, cool, all right, I'm

425
00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:27.960
gonna going to the I'm gonna go
into the dining hall. It's it's the

426
00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:30.679
most of night tonight. I mean, Frank, it's still stuffed animal.

427
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:35.800
So like, yeah, sixty dollars
is a lot for stuffed animal. But

428
00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:37.519
if it was more than that,
I'd be like, is it lined with

429
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:42.239
gold? I mean, I remember
you wanted to you apply there at one

430
00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:45.239
time. They did not hire me. Yeah, And well you have to

431
00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:49.960
have like a like a ceremony for
the build a Bear to come to life

432
00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:52.639
or whatever. Yes, I'd be
so good at that. That's what made

433
00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:54.920
me apply. Yeah, has I
read that? I was like, I

434
00:35:54.960 --> 00:36:00.000
want to do incantations to bring the
build a Bear to life? Yeah?

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slash teen girl Talk to get started. So we're no minutes into this movie.

450
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That's what these movies do. They
unlock our chakras. Let me just

451
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:37.639
go um. I mean there's also
just like so much meandering in this movie.

452
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:44.119
Yeah, Jacob's mad, then Edward's
mad, then both Edward and Jacob

453
00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:51.320
are mad, and now Bella's flustered. She's such a trooper. It's just

454
00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:55.320
so hard to be desired by these
men that she cares for. I'm so

455
00:37:55.760 --> 00:38:01.679
sick of seeing wolf boys running around
in tiny shore. I mean they're basically

456
00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:06.760
wearing like skateboard shorts, and shorts
aren't that small? Yeah, oh god,

457
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:09.400
I love them so much more.
If they skateboarded like that would be

458
00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:13.920
so funny. If they just skateboarded
in and out of scenes, Yeah,

459
00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:20.480
like just roll into the frame.
And Bella is just like and you know,

460
00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:24.760
like I can I can kind of
understand Edwards anger throughout this movie,

461
00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:29.480
where because like Bella is cons like
I love Jacob. I love Jacob.

462
00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:31.280
I'm gonna smooth them in front of
you. I'd be like, you want

463
00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:37.039
to get married and you're smooching other
dudes in front of me. Like I

464
00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:42.559
feel like Edwards almost more into it
when she's being petulant, like when she

465
00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:45.679
kisses Jacob, when Jacob's like,
I'm gonna just go die in battle and

466
00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:51.760
she's like, Jacob, no kiss
me. I thought that meant that Jacob

467
00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:53.880
was not going to go into battle. Nope, they just kissed and then

468
00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:57.079
he went into battle anyway. And
then I was like, what was the

469
00:38:57.119 --> 00:39:00.960
point of that kiss to make to
call was dramas is he? But it

470
00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:07.519
didn't because Edward goes the Jacob was
like damn, he's so slick, and

471
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:13.000
Bella was like, he's not paying
playing any games, and Jacob's like,

472
00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:20.480
okay, what is this movie?
Yeah? So um what about the mic

473
00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:23.880
drop when we first see Jacob at
the beginning of the film, Like it's

474
00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:29.599
like the film pause. They were
like eight for it, Oh my gosh,

475
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:31.760
it's Jacob. He's at the school. Yeah, like, oh my

476
00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:37.599
god, and that the music staying
of like like I was Diamond painting.

477
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:39.639
While I watched it, I looked
up and I was like, what's happening.

478
00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:44.199
I was like, Oh, it's
just Jacob. We've watched so many

479
00:39:44.280 --> 00:39:46.280
of these and like a quick succession. I was like, yes, I'm

480
00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:51.079
familiar with Jacob, thank you.
The thing is like, yeah, we

481
00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:54.400
just saw this Weekend or this week
Guardens of the Galaxy Volume three, and

482
00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:59.719
that movie was celebrating itself, and
I feel like that's what these movies needed

483
00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:01.719
to be more of. Just like
and that's what they kind of do with

484
00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:07.239
this scene of Jacob, and it's
like changing. It's like Jacob, you

485
00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:12.400
know, like, okay, theater, get ready to go absolutely nerds like

486
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:19.199
yeah, um, and it's your
boy Jacob. You know him, you

487
00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:22.800
love him, unless your team Edward. You know him, you love unless

488
00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:29.159
your team Edward and Anti Domestic Wilds. Well, I mean you can't really

489
00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:34.639
put that on Jacob. Well no, I would say Jacob is way more

490
00:40:34.760 --> 00:40:39.960
toxic than Edward. Like wow,
really yeah, Susie, Like okay,

491
00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:45.239
it is a tight race. I
would say they're equally. It's toxic.

492
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:51.239
Yeah yeah, I'm gonna insleep back
down from this, like because I just

493
00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:55.440
I just remember Edward, like sabotage
her trucks unless you can go see Jacob.

494
00:40:57.400 --> 00:41:01.400
He's like, clearly having Alice listened
to her all the time. Yeah,

495
00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:07.400
so Alice. Then that you know, that brings us into the next

496
00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:15.760
scene. There at school, Bella
is listening to Um Jessica speaking what I

497
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:20.559
can only call is the face of
somebody who's considering the other person as prattling

498
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:25.559
on yes, um, and she
sees Alice having one of her vision like

499
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:30.079
thousand yards stairs. She goes up
to her and Alice is like, there's

500
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:35.800
an army coming of newborns. Well, no, they don't get there yet.

501
00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:39.320
At first, Alice is like,
hey, everyone, I'm having a

502
00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:44.159
party, and everyone's like what,
we get to go to the Coulin house.

503
00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:50.039
We are hardly going to see the
friends after this scene, but she's

504
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:53.679
like, yeah, it'll be fun. And Bella brings the mood down to

505
00:41:53.800 --> 00:41:58.239
the fucking ground by being like you
said that last time. I thought she

506
00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:01.679
was going to smile or laugh after
that, No, full like dead eyed

507
00:42:01.800 --> 00:42:07.440
stare at Alice. Alice just looks
sad. Then Alice gets a vision edward

508
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:13.840
reased her thoughts, looks concerned,
and Bella's like, what's up, what's

509
00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:20.519
up? And he's like, oh, nothing, I just don't you know.

510
00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:23.320
I was worried that people would think
Alice was weird. And she's like,

511
00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:28.000
okay, that ship sailed a while
ago. And then they only find

512
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:37.199
out later about it's when they make
the connection about the missing guy. Like

513
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:43.360
they show up at the police station
for some reason and Edward listens to them

514
00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:50.920
talk about Riley being missing and it's
been a year and Charlie's done everything he

515
00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:53.960
could and they haven't found anything.
And then he tells her and she's like,

516
00:42:54.880 --> 00:42:59.199
understandably, why would you keep that
information from me? And he's like,

517
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:01.639
oh, photos keeping you tooth by
keeping you ignorant in the dark.

518
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:08.880
Bella is still grounded and she has
to be home by four, so he's

519
00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:15.239
dropping her off so she can have
dinner with her dad. Yes, Dad's

520
00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:17.960
like, hey, I'm super sick
of you hanging out with your mega controlling

521
00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:22.039
boyfriend. I want you to hang
out with your friends, and Belle's like

522
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:25.840
you, I'm gonna say this.
If Alice was an only child and had

523
00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:31.920
to get through Forks High School by
herself, her natural charisma and peppiness would

524
00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:37.880
have basically created She would have been
leading an army of Forks High school students.

525
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:40.239
Absolutely, because they'd be like,
we are willing to die for you

526
00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:45.239
because you were the best, instead
of like, oh, you hang out

527
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:50.719
with like NonStop mobes. Yeah,
Alice is my favorite vampire in the series.

528
00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:54.360
Frank, your bias is one thousand
percent showing through. Don't don't worry

529
00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:58.920
about that. No one is like
I wonder which vampire is Frank's favorite.

530
00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:02.719
I am on the same team as
a man of the Jedi of Bella and

531
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:07.639
Alice should have ended up together.
I mean, their chemistry is undeniable.

532
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:14.159
Yeah, and while Alice is as
pushy as Edward, it's like a lot

533
00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:19.239
more endearing coming from her than Edward
because she's not scowling all the time like

534
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:25.559
Alice want. Alice wants what's best
for Alice wants what's best for Bella,

535
00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:30.360
while Edward's like, I want to
possess her. Like that is true.

536
00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:35.880
I'm not sure if that's like Cannon
that he says I want to possess her,

537
00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:39.159
but he might as well. It's
in the vertext. Alice is like

538
00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:43.400
I'm having a vision cuts to them, like you know, water skiing.

539
00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:45.880
She's like, I'm having another vision
cuts to them out of romantic dinner and

540
00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:50.119
just like, yeah, I make
the future best for you, I mean,

541
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:54.039
and like it would also be an
upgrade for Alice. Like they had

542
00:44:54.159 --> 00:45:00.400
Jasper do what can only be described
as the yankeest Southern accent in this one,

543
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:02.760
and he's like, oh, was
a Confederate soldier And I was like,

544
00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:08.119
oh, no, movie what,
Yeah, I'll give mine. I

545
00:45:08.480 --> 00:45:13.719
used to feel sympathetic for this man
who got eaten by lady vampires. You

546
00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:17.239
are not sticking the landing on that. Yeah. My favorite book is called

547
00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:21.519
Mountain, about a Confederate soldier,
but he's a deserter. He's like,

548
00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:24.679
I'm done with this. I'm going
home. Like it's still problematic, but

549
00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:30.320
he at least gave up. Yeah. Where Jasper is like I evacuated a

550
00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:34.760
village and I was like, what
to where? There's nothing out here?

551
00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:37.800
What are you talking about? Yeah? And Texas was not a Texas one.

552
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:40.480
He's like, oh, I'm a
I'm a major. I was the

553
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:44.719
younger, he says, prifully,
I was the youngest major there was.

554
00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:47.079
Shut up, Jasper, that's not
something to brag about. And here's the

555
00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:52.239
other part. I'm not even sure
how settled Texas was during the Civil War.

556
00:45:52.480 --> 00:45:57.880
It was highly wild. Yeah,
So I like the fact the idea

557
00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:02.000
that they would even care what is
happening during the Civil War. They're just

558
00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:07.360
too busy trying to not die of
Dysenterry Like, yeah, maybe maybe they

559
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:12.239
made him a major in the Texas
Cavalry just to like just just like here

560
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:15.480
you go, just stay out of
the way. Yeah, And like the

561
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:17.920
idea that this lady vampire is like, oh, I'm going to have a

562
00:46:19.039 --> 00:46:23.159
vampire army in Texas. There are
barely humans in Texas at that point.

563
00:46:23.679 --> 00:46:30.639
Why we're going to rise. I
get that they were trying to make a

564
00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:37.079
parallel between Victoria's shitty plan and what
was this woman's name, Maria Marianne Maria

565
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:42.920
Maria and Maria's shitty plan, where
like the moral of the story is neither

566
00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:46.360
of them needed newborn vampire armies.
He's like, I killed I killed,

567
00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:50.800
you know, twelve year olds all
from Maria. I'm very proud of my

568
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:53.719
past. He didn't say he was
proud. He says, I mean frank,

569
00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:58.039
like, look, I don't like
Jesser as a character, and I

570
00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:02.320
think that the movie thing where we
are going to have more sympathy than we

571
00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:06.360
do. But he says, I
was a puppet. I thought we were

572
00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:08.599
in love. She had me do
her bidding. He wasn't like I did

573
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:14.400
a great job. But it's not
fair to the character because like he didn't

574
00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:16.559
think he did a great job.
He basically says, I was a dingdong

575
00:47:16.679 --> 00:47:21.679
idiot. I thought he said,
like I was the youngest major and that

576
00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:25.159
he did. But when after Maria
turned him and he was working for Maria,

577
00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:31.119
he didn't think that was like a
super great get. He thought they

578
00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:35.239
were doing like love's work or whatever. And then he's like, oh,

579
00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:39.679
I'm a rube and she manipulated me. There's actually in the Saman comics,

580
00:47:39.719 --> 00:47:45.199
there's actually a character who talks about
like he's like goes on this tirade that

581
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:50.320
people choose to die, and you
know, you can choose just keep living

582
00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:53.760
and death and dream hear this,
and Death's like you want to do something

583
00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:59.760
about this, and dreams like yeah, so dream gives him eternal life essentially,

584
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:02.880
huh, and he will like he's
immortal, he will not die until

585
00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:07.360
he asked to die, and every
one hundred years they're going to meet up.

586
00:48:08.119 --> 00:48:12.239
And dreams like do you want to
die yet, and he's just kind

587
00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:14.800
of like, no, I still
got to see what else happens. But

588
00:48:14.920 --> 00:48:17.760
then he gets still like a point
in like the you know, past slavery

589
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:21.760
where he looks back. He's like, I am a monster. I have

590
00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:24.360
to make up for everything I did. I participate in the slave trade.

591
00:48:24.800 --> 00:48:30.239
I am a monster, and like
that is such a better take than I

592
00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:34.000
was the youngest major. You know. So, I mean because like the

593
00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:39.920
whole point of this backstory right,
like it makes more sense for them to

594
00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:45.320
tell us Rosalie's backstory because her arc
is I never wanted to be a vampire.

595
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:50.320
I had big plans for my human
life and those were dashed because I

596
00:48:50.440 --> 00:48:53.000
was assaulted by my fiance while a
bunch of his friends watched, and they

597
00:48:53.199 --> 00:48:57.679
left me in the street to die. First of all, I'm going to

598
00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:01.320
say it is a very heavy theme
or a ya movie. Like I get

599
00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:07.199
that that su kind of stuff happened
back then, but like, oh,

600
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:13.960
and I think that the movie gives
it as much gravitas as it can in

601
00:49:14.119 --> 00:49:19.559
this movie about teenage vampire love.
But that is rough. I mean,

602
00:49:19.639 --> 00:49:22.679
they cut before you see anything,
but it's insinuated. And then Rosalie says

603
00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:31.039
she would rather have tied than had
Carlisle save her, and you know,

604
00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:36.400
she enacts revenge on all of the
men, but she says to Bella like,

605
00:49:36.599 --> 00:49:39.280
if I had a choice, if
this man had not ended my life

606
00:49:39.320 --> 00:49:43.599
prematurely, and if I had been
able to do the things I wanted to

607
00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:45.679
do, I would never ever,
ever, in a million years. She

608
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:53.480
used to be a vampire, and
she in the second film, is in

609
00:49:53.639 --> 00:50:00.400
New Moon, is the only one
who votes to key Bella a human besides

610
00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:05.519
Edward. And you know, so
now at the time, we're led to

611
00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:09.039
believe it's just because she's a grump, but now we understand why that is

612
00:50:10.760 --> 00:50:16.800
so much heavier than Jasper's backstory.
Like, yes, it's sad that Jasper

613
00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:21.840
got eaten by hot ladies, but
then it's like, well, Jasper is

614
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:27.239
so great at leading armies because he
got eaten by hot ladies. So like,

615
00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:34.639
but Rosalie's backstory is still just tragic
period. She's full of regret and

616
00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:38.519
tragedy and she doesn't get any resuming
arc. So why does the Confederate soldier

617
00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:43.000
get a resuming arc? And Rosalie, who was just minding her business in

618
00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:49.159
the world is cruel not get one? Yeah, um, Rosalie should have

619
00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:52.280
been the one to kill what's his
name? The guy from the first movie?

620
00:50:53.119 --> 00:50:58.679
Oh? Um, oh gosh,
it would have been. It would

621
00:50:58.679 --> 00:51:02.800
have mentioned him constantly. Never has
a character who's not on screen been more

622
00:51:04.159 --> 00:51:09.679
um like more ballyhood. Oh gosh, what is his name? I see

623
00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:13.880
his bad wig, I see it
in my mind's eye. Frank, what

624
00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:16.880
have been amazing? Is? I
think his name was Jason? Yeah,

625
00:51:17.360 --> 00:51:25.639
Rosalie like stands like you know,
is willing to die for Bree, like

626
00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:29.800
at the end of this movie,
and like because I like, I fully

627
00:51:29.800 --> 00:51:35.320
agree if you let her backstory so
much heavier and I love the line I

628
00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:39.880
won't nobody. I didn't get a
choice, And if somebody I would want

629
00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:44.079
somebody to say no for me,
if I if I could go back and

630
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:47.880
do it again, Yes, because
like and like the thing I like and

631
00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:54.559
I think that really plays up the
sympathy of this situation is that she knows

632
00:51:54.679 --> 00:51:59.559
that Carlyle thought he was doing a
good thing in the same way that Carlyle

633
00:51:59.639 --> 00:52:02.760
wanted to save Edward, because these
are young people who are dying before their

634
00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:09.760
time. But the result of that
being that their life is. Yeah,

635
00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:17.639
it's so complicated, right, Like
the choice is it's rough, yeah,

636
00:52:17.679 --> 00:52:23.880
because you're dooming somebody to eternal life
or you get smashed like a porcelain doll.

637
00:52:24.360 --> 00:52:30.119
Yeah. It's just like and I
do like I did love watching her

638
00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:35.159
burst through the door because she talks
about leaving her fiance for last Yes,

639
00:52:35.440 --> 00:52:38.239
so he would know she's coming,
and he like had bodyguards and she was

640
00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:42.639
like, I will dispense of all
of you. Yeah, and she first

641
00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:46.039
wearing her wedding dress and then just
casually says as a bit theatrical back then,

642
00:52:46.920 --> 00:52:52.519
we like, I mean this is
a character that we saw crush a

643
00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:58.360
salad bowl and her bare hands because
someone had already eaten dinner. I mean

644
00:52:58.440 --> 00:53:04.800
that's more dramatic theatrical. Um,
James is the one who is murdered.

645
00:53:05.280 --> 00:53:09.119
Yeah, Like I would love to
see Rosalie like, you know, her

646
00:53:09.159 --> 00:53:14.320
main thing becoming like I want to
protect people from having to become vampires.

647
00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:17.800
Yeah, you know, and just
like this like hero of the you know,

648
00:53:17.960 --> 00:53:22.039
hero of the people who don't have
voices. But you know, once

649
00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:28.360
again we're asking like these we're looking
at these in like twenty twenty three goggles

650
00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:35.880
versus two thousand cockles. Yeah,
um, yeah, you know what have

651
00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:43.079
been amazing is just like a vampire
scene I always want is just like you

652
00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:45.519
know, it's the middle of a
field and there's like a clan lot rally

653
00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:49.519
going on and you just see like
a herd of vampires come running in and

654
00:53:49.599 --> 00:53:53.000
be like I feel no, I
feel absolutely no shame about this. I

655
00:53:53.079 --> 00:53:58.280
feel nothing bad about this. Let's
like, let's let's turn those white costumes

656
00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:07.280
red. That would I would be
very into that, and I have Yeah,

657
00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:10.519
it would make more sense of being
like, oh, was a confederation

658
00:54:10.679 --> 00:54:16.960
or like you know Jasper and just
like you know, maybe they put up

659
00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:19.800
the cross. They're like, oh, we can't get neither because the cross.

660
00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:21.440
They lay the cross on fire.
It's like, oh cool, they

661
00:54:21.480 --> 00:54:25.239
took care of that problem for us. They care about crosses. No,

662
00:54:25.440 --> 00:54:29.159
not in this one. Yeah,
I was gonna say, I didn't think

663
00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:34.079
that was like one of their vampire
things. They um they do it like

664
00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:38.760
a cool thing in Castlevania where they
explain like, um, as predators,

665
00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:42.920
they don't have her, like vampires
don't have her good eyesight. So like

666
00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:45.239
the cross isn't like they're not against
because of religious reasons. It just screws

667
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:52.960
up their vision. Um so,
just like because like their vision is based

668
00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:59.559
off of certain like um certain sensibility, you know. So then like the

669
00:54:59.639 --> 00:55:06.039
cross like moving around like kind of
screws it up. It's some predator nonsense

670
00:55:06.079 --> 00:55:09.039
they came up with. Um okay, I can get behind that. Yeah,

671
00:55:09.239 --> 00:55:21.599
so predator nonsense yeah, um so
we have um yeah, it's there's

672
00:55:21.719 --> 00:55:25.599
not There's like a lot of cool
concepts in this movie, like Rosy's backstory,

673
00:55:27.480 --> 00:55:32.280
and but mostly it just turns into
Edward and Jacob pickering, yeah,

674
00:55:32.599 --> 00:55:37.960
pickering and posturing and you know,
talking about what's best for Bella while she's

675
00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:44.480
standing about you know, ten feet
away from them. And Bella like for

676
00:55:44.599 --> 00:55:47.159
her part, tries to stick up
for herself but mostly stokes the fires a

677
00:55:47.199 --> 00:55:51.760
bullshit between these two. She's just
like stopped fighting over me. Hey,

678
00:55:51.880 --> 00:55:55.400
Jacob smooch. Yeah, She's like, I hate that you guys are fighting.

679
00:55:55.599 --> 00:56:00.960
Jacob kissed me. Edward, are
you upset? Oh my god?

680
00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:07.360
Bella is Quinn moanfer Absolutely, And
then I love that Edwards like just like

681
00:56:07.639 --> 00:56:08.960
I'm gonna defuse this. No,
I'm not upset. I don't care.

682
00:56:09.679 --> 00:56:14.599
And she's kind of like, Ah, the only way she could be more

683
00:56:14.679 --> 00:56:17.400
Quinn Morgan Doorfer is that they started
like physically fighting in front of her,

684
00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:22.039
And she said to onlookers, they're
fighting because of me. Yeah for real.

685
00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:28.760
Because then again, so like what
the movie comes down to is no

686
00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:36.239
one's entirely sure who's building the army
or why Alice can't see, like she

687
00:56:36.400 --> 00:56:39.880
says, it's not Arrow and it's
not Victoria, but it is Victoria.

688
00:56:42.119 --> 00:56:47.559
But for some reason, I guess
because Victoria has been mostly hanging out on

689
00:56:47.760 --> 00:56:55.480
like the werewolf property, she can't
see Victoria's like thoughts or pats or whatever

690
00:56:55.599 --> 00:57:02.320
because the werewolves block it in the
same way that it Bella hanging out with

691
00:57:02.599 --> 00:57:08.039
Jacob blocked her, like the change
of her path after she jumped off of

692
00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:15.400
the cliff. So then the Vulteri
are there, they're willing to let it

693
00:57:15.559 --> 00:57:20.440
happen, but they also were not
responsible for it. This I felt like

694
00:57:20.519 --> 00:57:23.400
it got a little convoluted at that
point. Yeah, because the Vulteria see

695
00:57:23.800 --> 00:57:29.719
like Riley and his vampire crew just
wrecking right, you know, wreaking havoc,

696
00:57:30.159 --> 00:57:32.800
and they're like, hmmm, should
we let them go kill the Cullens

697
00:57:34.159 --> 00:57:37.199
or should we take care of this
ourselves? And Jane Dakota Fant's characters like

698
00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:40.639
decisions, decisions, and she's like, we're gonna let this one ride and

699
00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:45.679
just hang out. And one of
them suggests we should call Arrow and see

700
00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:50.960
what he thinks, and she says
we can't because they're watching him, which

701
00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:53.679
is like a really easy way to
like write Michael Sheen outed this movie because

702
00:57:53.719 --> 00:58:00.880
I guess he couldn't make it whatever. And so then after all of the

703
00:58:01.960 --> 00:58:08.880
newborns are dispatched, they're kind of
standing around. Jacob has had half of

704
00:58:08.920 --> 00:58:15.880
the bones and his body crushed,
which is like pretty severe, and because

705
00:58:15.960 --> 00:58:21.760
he is like super healing like Wolverine, they need to make sure that they

706
00:58:21.800 --> 00:58:24.199
get his bones in place before he
starts healing up. So they take him

707
00:58:24.239 --> 00:58:30.280
back to the reservation and then the
Vultauri show up and they're like, oh,

708
00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:36.599
Bella's love interesting, And then they
find out that there's still a newborn

709
00:58:37.599 --> 00:58:44.159
alive that what was her name?
You mentioned her before and they say like,

710
00:58:44.360 --> 00:58:46.559
well, it can't stand and the
Collins try to say like, well,

711
00:58:46.920 --> 00:58:51.760
no, she didn't attack us,
she didn't want this, and they're

712
00:58:51.800 --> 00:59:01.400
like too bad. So then they
Killbrey and say that they absolutely, beyond

713
00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:06.000
a doubt, have to change Bella
or it's gonna be a whole thing.

714
00:59:06.920 --> 00:59:13.199
Yeah. Um, and there's that. This just kind of cuts out a

715
00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:15.719
bunch of I just want to highlight
a few things that lead up to this.

716
00:59:15.960 --> 00:59:22.559
One is the um camping on the
mountain. Um, we're Bella up

717
00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:25.280
for some reason. They're like,
huh, like, I guess maybe they

718
00:59:25.320 --> 00:59:30.000
didn't consider it, and or I
don't think Everard consider it because he doesn't

719
00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:32.960
get cold or he is cold all
the time. And Jake's like, if

720
00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:37.039
I don't bring her enough blankets,
she'll have to get close to me and

721
00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:43.039
like, you know, snuggle up
because I'm I'm as he dead eye looks

722
00:59:43.320 --> 00:59:47.639
Edward and you know, and says
I'm hotter than you. Oh my god,

723
00:59:49.480 --> 00:59:52.800
you know. And He's like,
oh, you know, survival is

724
00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:57.239
this thing like actual survivals and stuff
says that we should you know, get

725
00:59:57.360 --> 01:00:00.480
naked, and Edward it is just
awfully sitting in the tent while he says

726
01:00:00.519 --> 01:00:07.199
that, and then says Edwards like
you're not married. You can't. He's

727
01:00:07.320 --> 01:00:10.960
like, like you have not taken
vows between you know, God and the

728
01:00:12.039 --> 01:00:19.360
court. Guess what in this movie, I'm Christian. Yeah, I'm Christian,

729
01:00:19.440 --> 01:00:28.719
Greg No, um, not yet
he so you know they I just

730
01:00:29.039 --> 01:00:35.119
remember in the one of the later
movies they talk about like how Jacob can

731
01:00:35.199 --> 01:00:39.599
give her a baby if she wants
one. Come on, especially when the

732
01:00:39.639 --> 01:00:45.880
imprinting stuff happens, like not appropriate. Yeah, that's a whole another kettle

733
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:47.920
of fish, Frank, I do
not know how we were going to talk

734
01:00:47.920 --> 01:00:52.400
about that. Oh, we're gonna
I have a plan. We're just going

735
01:00:52.480 --> 01:00:58.800
to monster truck our way through.
How gross it is, like when he

736
01:00:58.960 --> 01:01:00.719
talks about it in this movie,
I was like, oh no, oh

737
01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:07.360
god. And then I really Lily
having flashbacks and breaking doll in part one

738
01:01:07.400 --> 01:01:09.920
and two. Yeah, and then
I was like, oh, I really

739
01:01:09.960 --> 01:01:15.440
wish they had used that weird animatronic
puppet that weighed a million pounds, but

740
01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:22.320
instead they just decided to CGI into
a nightmare. I cannot wait to see

741
01:01:22.440 --> 01:01:29.559
that child m CGI nightmare is so
much better than the doll. But I'm

742
01:01:29.639 --> 01:01:32.559
so regretful that they did not use
the doll. Um. There's also a

743
01:01:32.679 --> 01:01:38.320
scene so upsetting looking where they finally
use um, they use the tickets.

744
01:01:39.599 --> 01:01:45.679
Um. That man Carlisle got Bella
for her birth. Is this the extended

745
01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:49.079
version? Why is the scene here? Nope, it's in the regular version

746
01:01:49.119 --> 01:01:52.280
too. Oh no, I didn't
watch the extended version for this one.

747
01:01:52.360 --> 01:01:58.800
I was just like scenes that could
be cut. I'm so confounded how Edward

748
01:01:59.039 --> 01:02:04.840
got to Florida without getting caught and
then he's just hanging out inside. Well,

749
01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:07.960
Bella and his mom, Bella and
her mom like talk about him,

750
01:02:08.320 --> 01:02:15.280
And while her mom probably has thought
that discussed him, that's true because like

751
01:02:16.039 --> 01:02:22.559
I really thought they were going to
get near, like an interesting conversation,

752
01:02:22.920 --> 01:02:28.519
because Bella's mom is like, Hey, the thing with you and Edward is

753
01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:35.719
that, like when he moves you
move it, you seem different with him,

754
01:02:36.199 --> 01:02:39.440
which really sounds like she's teeing up
for a conversation of Edward is too

755
01:02:39.519 --> 01:02:44.440
controlling and I'm worried about you.
And Bella says, well, mom,

756
01:02:44.719 --> 01:02:47.639
and her mom finishes the sentence and
says, you're in love, and I'm

757
01:02:47.719 --> 01:02:54.400
like, Bella, mom, that
is not the takeaway from this. Yeah,

758
01:02:54.599 --> 01:02:59.840
like it. So do you not
remember the broken leg? Your daughter?

759
01:03:00.320 --> 01:03:02.880
Remember that we're not gonna we're not
gonna talk about that, the broken

760
01:03:02.960 --> 01:03:10.480
hand, you got from punching Jacob
the various huge like gaping cuts. Yeah,

761
01:03:12.000 --> 01:03:15.960
that papercut she got that like kind
of ruined her life, like what

762
01:03:17.239 --> 01:03:22.920
Yeah? So, I mean the
thing is the movie again similar to um

763
01:03:22.719 --> 01:03:27.440
New Moon, all of a sudden
decides at the end it wants to get

764
01:03:27.480 --> 01:03:31.320
really interesting and there is a quick
battle and then everything's resolved for the next

765
01:03:31.440 --> 01:03:42.119
movie where they're getting married, and
um it's I mean, this movie does

766
01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:46.159
like a lot of sort of um
fuffing around before it decides to get serious

767
01:03:46.719 --> 01:03:50.599
and then all of a sudden there's
a bunch of action and then it just

768
01:03:50.840 --> 01:03:55.840
ends. Yeah, I mean,
and the fight is not particularly bad or

769
01:03:57.039 --> 01:04:02.159
good. It's just kind of their
um I do I did like because I

770
01:04:02.239 --> 01:04:06.760
mean, they didn't want to give
anything away for the huge battle in Breaking

771
01:04:06.800 --> 01:04:15.320
Down too. Do you not remember
this? No, I remember the pilot

772
01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:16.639
battle. I just remember the bullshit
that comes to the end of the battle

773
01:04:17.119 --> 01:04:27.480
exactly. So, Frank any closing
thoughts on Eclipse, I like this one

774
01:04:27.519 --> 01:04:32.159
in the least. Really, I
like them all equally. Oh okay,

775
01:04:32.840 --> 01:04:41.280
it's okay, I just like I
did once again, I don't I'm not

776
01:04:41.400 --> 01:04:45.039
hating these like I did when I
was a kid, but I was just

777
01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:48.440
like I just kind of meandering around, just like this, this feels so

778
01:04:48.760 --> 01:04:54.599
second act but doesn't like, like, you know, the second act is

779
01:04:54.639 --> 01:04:57.679
supposed to drive you towards the you
know, the climax, and I'm just

780
01:04:57.880 --> 01:05:01.159
like it did. The new Newborns
didn't seemed that bad a thing, Like

781
01:05:01.599 --> 01:05:05.559
I don't think they kill any of
the other werewolves or vampires, you know,

782
01:05:06.239 --> 01:05:08.760
I said, And I like,
I get it, Like they do

783
01:05:08.880 --> 01:05:13.480
break the bones on the right side
of James Jacob's body and that's it.

784
01:05:13.880 --> 01:05:15.519
And I was just like, I
mean, here is the thing. James,

785
01:05:16.239 --> 01:05:21.079
one vampire felt like so much more
of a threat than Victoria or the

786
01:05:21.159 --> 01:05:29.480
Newborns. Right, James, in
a matter of hours, god fella alone

787
01:05:30.039 --> 01:05:34.440
poisoned her and broke her leg.
Victoria couldn't do that in a year and

788
01:05:34.519 --> 01:05:40.679
a half. Yeah, And he
also and I'm not saying that's because she's

789
01:05:40.679 --> 01:05:42.960
a woman, you know what I'm
gonna say, she just didn't want it

790
01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:45.719
bad enough. So I feel like
she hadn't loved James that much, because

791
01:05:45.760 --> 01:05:48.960
if she had loved James, she
would have poisoned Bella and broke her leg

792
01:05:49.280 --> 01:05:55.800
and got it done in let's say, earlier than eighteen months later. Well

793
01:05:55.840 --> 01:05:58.039
that's the thing. We didn't even
talk about this. They get into the

794
01:05:58.320 --> 01:06:04.719
Swan household. Well Riley is like
inches away from like Charlie's face. Well,

795
01:06:04.840 --> 01:06:08.679
Charlie sleeps on the couch with the
newspaper. Yeah, this is what

796
01:06:08.800 --> 01:06:12.480
I'm saying. I don't think that
Victoria was all in for killing Bella.

797
01:06:13.079 --> 01:06:17.360
Yeah, I think she was half
dedicated at best. Yeah, she should

798
01:06:17.400 --> 01:06:21.320
have just gone on the road to
become a vampire detective. Frank, I

799
01:06:21.400 --> 01:06:26.320
can't even tell you how many times
I thought I wish that Bella and Edward

800
01:06:26.360 --> 01:06:30.719
would just become detectives. I mean, I was thinking about that in the

801
01:06:30.840 --> 01:06:32.599
last movie, where we like,
if she's looking for a journal and she's

802
01:06:32.719 --> 01:06:35.920
joined the Scooby Gang, Like,
yeah, they deal with stuff all the

803
01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:40.039
time. She comes to be talking
a ghost Edward and he'd be like,

804
01:06:40.280 --> 01:06:42.119
I bet you, it's just a
dude. This time. She's like,

805
01:06:42.159 --> 01:06:45.039
no, it's really a ghost.
This time it's just a dude. And

806
01:06:45.119 --> 01:06:47.119
then he'd like, look, who
got it right again, it's just a

807
01:06:47.280 --> 01:06:51.400
dude trying to avoid taxes or some
other nonsense. In a party city,

808
01:06:51.480 --> 01:06:56.039
mask and you bought it Bella.
Wow, I can't believe I wanted to

809
01:06:56.159 --> 01:07:03.480
marry you before we were intimate by
my favorite Meanwhile, like either Shaggy or

810
01:07:03.880 --> 01:07:10.119
um Fred or just like was up
and she's like, you are very triangular

811
01:07:10.199 --> 01:07:15.079
Fred. I mean, isn't Fred
married to not Velma? The other one?

812
01:07:15.400 --> 01:07:20.320
Definitely? Yeah, Daphne, he's
married to Scooby. Uh no,

813
01:07:20.960 --> 01:07:27.400
uh they are dating for a while
but they break up. Well, one

814
01:07:27.400 --> 01:07:31.320
of my favorite things is Daphne Um
There there is a movie where they go

815
01:07:31.440 --> 01:07:35.199
to an island and it turns out
the zombies are real and it's like it

816
01:07:35.400 --> 01:07:41.400
rules. But then it turns out
the the the this nice family, well

817
01:07:41.440 --> 01:07:45.079
this family they thought was nice is
actually a group of cat people who suck

818
01:07:45.159 --> 01:07:47.280
the life out of them, who
sucked the life out of man and turn

819
01:07:47.360 --> 01:07:50.920
them into zombies and zombies actually nice. Oh my gosh, is this the

820
01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:57.000
live action one? No? The
live action one directed by James Gunn has

821
01:07:57.440 --> 01:08:00.920
Um Scrappy as the villain. Why
have we not watched any of these?

822
01:08:01.480 --> 01:08:04.800
I had a whole month plan for
it, then I got derailed. I

823
01:08:04.960 --> 01:08:09.880
think for something else. I think
I was gonna be April like Scooby Doo

824
01:08:09.960 --> 01:08:14.880
month or something, and then like
Polite Society came out and we're I was

825
01:08:14.960 --> 01:08:17.319
like, no, April's for action. Oh my god, wouldn't it be

826
01:08:17.399 --> 01:08:20.119
so funny if you were like,
we were gonna do it, but then

827
01:08:20.199 --> 01:08:25.119
instead we did in April. I
would probably never talk to you again.

828
01:08:27.359 --> 01:08:31.439
I'd be like, in April.
Yeah, No, in April was in

829
01:08:31.520 --> 01:08:38.960
and of itself a mistake that came
completelyansone. We were young, we were

830
01:08:39.000 --> 01:08:43.359
impressionable. We thought that horse movies
could fix us. But my favorite,

831
01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:45.600
my favorite part is we have not
gotten more professional. I think, in

832
01:08:45.720 --> 01:08:49.119
fact, i'd say we got less
professional, because if something starts tanking in

833
01:08:49.199 --> 01:08:53.960
our minds, we'll just digit oh
my god, absolutely well, who wants

834
01:08:54.000 --> 01:08:57.399
to listen to a million episodes of
us being like you guess what, guys?

835
01:08:57.479 --> 01:09:01.319
This one was bad too, surprising
no one. This horse movie was

836
01:09:01.399 --> 01:09:08.079
boring and unwatchable. Yeah, my
our horse movie is so cheap to make.

837
01:09:08.359 --> 01:09:10.760
I just don't even understand it because
you have to get like an animal

838
01:09:10.840 --> 01:09:15.840
wrangler. I think because they can
they I'm gonna guess a lot of these

839
01:09:15.960 --> 01:09:18.960
ranchers they're like, yeah, we're
totally animal wranglers looks around shift away that

840
01:09:19.439 --> 01:09:27.199
this horse movie is Nope truly which
is about animal wranglers, so or I

841
01:09:27.319 --> 01:09:32.199
guess, like and what would you
call like animal actor wranglers. It's the

842
01:09:32.640 --> 01:09:38.079
m I actually heard what we referred
to it as an anti horse movie because

843
01:09:39.720 --> 01:09:43.880
like, no, not like it's
against horses, but I know, but

844
01:09:44.039 --> 01:09:46.079
like it's not like one of those
boring movies we were just talking about.

845
01:09:46.279 --> 01:09:50.000
Well, they're just like this thing
can't be tamed, you know. Um,

846
01:09:50.239 --> 01:09:53.840
I don't want to get too much
away because I still feel like Nope

847
01:09:53.960 --> 01:09:58.520
is been spoiler territory. Yeah,
I would agree, you know, and

848
01:09:58.800 --> 01:10:03.359
no, watch the toilet movies and
watch Nope. Nope kicks so much ass.

849
01:10:04.079 --> 01:10:09.239
It really does. So I'm not
gonna there's the only ball give.

850
01:10:09.279 --> 01:10:15.479
It hasn't a cure slide in it, and that's amazing. So next week

851
01:10:15.680 --> 01:10:19.359
we are doing Breaking Dawn Part one, and we will close out the month

852
01:10:19.479 --> 01:10:26.199
with Breaking Yarns the Breaking Dawn Part
two. Actually we're going to close out

853
01:10:26.199 --> 01:10:31.560
the month with um the Little Burtmaid. Oh, and then next month we'll

854
01:10:31.600 --> 01:10:36.439
begin it with Breaking Dawn Part two. For single summer, everyone will be

855
01:10:36.920 --> 01:10:41.439
waiting with bated breath to hear what
we have to say about Breaking Dawn Part

856
01:10:41.479 --> 01:10:45.479
two, a fifteen year old movie. So I'm waiting with baited breath to

857
01:10:45.520 --> 01:10:54.039
talk about photo realistic flipper. Yeah
wait wait flipper, No flounder, flounder

858
01:10:55.199 --> 01:10:58.079
um. If you would like to
write us, you can write us a

859
01:10:58.159 --> 01:11:00.199
real team girl talk at gmail dot
com. We have a Facebook group and

860
01:11:00.319 --> 01:11:06.319
page that Frank moderates. I guess
we still have T shirts for sale and

861
01:11:06.600 --> 01:11:10.640
stuff and if you want to rate
and review the show, that'd be sick

862
01:11:11.600 --> 01:11:15.920
And until next week. I am
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