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Joyce. Welcome to the Jesus Christ
Show. Thank you, Merry Christmas.

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Merry Christmas, Joyce. What's on
your mind? Well, eighteen years ago

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my husband was diagnosed with lung cancer, and around December of that year he

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had one lung removed, and then
the following month, in January, he

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had one kidney removed because of lung
cancer. And the doctor says, well,

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we'll do everything we can, but
I suggest to go home and get

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your fears in order during the next
six months. So we were both dumbfound

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it. But three years he's said
so many health issues and I miss him.

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I love miss so much, and
he just died last a month.

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And I've been trying to reach all
the reef books and understand all these things.

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But I'm sorry for crying, crying
without wanting to, and then it'll

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be okay. But why would you
try to stop your crying? Why would

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you try and stop your tears?
Because they make me feel like I shouldn't

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be doing it, that I should
be strong and brave and all the things

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you mentioned sometimes about being courageous.
Oh but that's not no, that's that

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is fiction. There is nothing weak
about tears. There's there is only one

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place without tears, that says in
scripture, and that's heaven, and that's

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the fulfillment of everything, and there's
no need for them. Hope is fulfilled.

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But while you're here on earth,
that that is given to you as

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a gift to experience, to continue
to have a physical reaction along with your

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emotions to a loss, a love, tears of joy, tears of pain,

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those are precious. They're not weak, not weak at all. Well,

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when you Mintioned mentioned passion a short
time ago, I thought, you

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know, during all these years,
the past two years, he was pen

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bound and I was with them all
the time, helping him and taking care

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of them, and he never complained. He was always such a good person,

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and I would get short with him
sometimes. I think sometimes now I

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think I should have been kinder.
But I always say a passion, for

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that is what you said about I
was always he would say, oh,

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i'll see in a few minutes,
because I keep going back in and talking

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to Hi much or telling him something. And I said, I can't help

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it. Here's like a magnet.
You just I just like seeing you,

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you know anyway, But I'm not
even sure what to say anymore. He

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was just such a kind I think
I think part of it was he was

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my everything. He was my friend, he was my husband, he was

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my TARKI for he was everything.
He was a little boy sometimes and a

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strong man. And and I just
miss all of those people. Well,

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the best of them are all of
those things and more. And God trusted

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his heart to you and brought you
to him and him to you, and

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trusted both of you with each other's
lives. And as far as getting upset,

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and there is so many emotions when
somebody is sick, and it is

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about the mechanical and the most boring
basic things of having to feed or go

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back and forth when somebody can't.
That's the basic fatigue, lack of sleep,

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those are just the basic mechanics.
And then deep down it's also the

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sadness that shows up as anger.
That what that means is you know,

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we're not who we used to be, or I can't experience you in the

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same way as we used to do, or you know I miss these things.

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It comes out in many different ways. But what you said is profound.

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You said he was like a magnet. That's the way relationships should be,

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not in a compulsive way. But
in an interdependent way where it's just

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the mere presence of them has power. Just being in the other room,

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even if you're not talking, just
the being around and feeling the energy of

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somebody in your life is powerful.
It's beautiful. That's exactly That's exactly how

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it was. And he had a
little room that he liked to be in

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with the TV and sports and movies
and reading the paper. And he was

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always always could make me laugh or
smile. And he was so witty and

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so kind, and I was always
teaking on him. He had a door

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that was used to be an old
door, like in the old fashioned I

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forget what you call him telephone booths. Oh, yes, last panels.

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So even when the door was closed, if I had to go into the

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other bathroom or into we only had
one in the bathroom, I would always

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cross by that door, and I
always could see him sleeping, watching TV

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or reading. And it always,
I don't know, it always gave me

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a sense of I don't know how
to describe it, like wonderment or something,

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just how he could be so calm
and generous with his time and energy

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and storytelling you. He was a
wonderful storyteller. And oh, thank you

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for letting me talk about me feel
so much better. Of course, you

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know, there's some things that I
would love for you to take with you

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today, and one of them is
to maybe journal the stories as best as

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you can, to write them down
in a book and the way it was

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brought to you, and the understanding
of those things, because you're kind of

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the curator. I tell people this
a lot that you've got to understand.

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When you're the one that outlives someone, you end up being the curator of

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their jokes, of their thoughts,
of their ideas, and if you put

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them down on paper, it's a
good thing they live. There there's something

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you can look at and see that
it's tangible and reread and it helps you

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categorize some of these emotions and memories
in a loving and fun way. And

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it's like, you know, the
book of your husband and certain things like

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that. Secondly, how old were
you when you met Oh? I think

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just under forty maybe well when we
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thirties. Okay, So now imagine
all the life you lived prior to meeting

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him. Yes, that life is
what attracted him to you. Now,

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of course, physical beauty and the
way you moved, and your eyes and

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your smile, and all these things
are there. But that knowledge, the

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things that you learned, the way
you listened, the stories you told,

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all of that is what made him
love you. And your job now is

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to continue those things, continue learning, continue laughing, continue living in a

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way that honors your relationship, honors
the time that he took with you,

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honors the time that you took with
him, and that honors God and the

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time that you had together in him
putting you two together, and to take

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those things and to appreciate them by
living still. He was your everything in

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the way that you both focused on
each other, but he's not your everything

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in reality. You came in you
to that relationship with everything, and you

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leave that relationship with everything, including
the beautiful memories of being with him and

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what you both gave to each other. So Joyce, I want you to

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go and peace, my dear,
on this Christmas Eve, and I want

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you to think happy thoughts, and
I want you to write down the thoughts

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of holidays, pasts, of stories
past, and of things that Joyce wants

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to do. What is Joyce going
to do now? What does this remainder

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of your life look like. How
are you going to honor that relationship by

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continuing to live? Which is the
best thing to do when someone passes,

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is to continue to honor them by
living. M m Allison, Welcome to

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the Jesus Christ Show. Good morning
and Happy Christmas. Well, happy Christmas

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to you. How can I help
you? So, my wonderful, beautiful

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six year old who's extremely intelligent and
well spoken and reads well and understands at

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a greater level that most think.
For Esus to want to go with me

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today to Christmas Eve service to celebrate
your birth well not uncommon. So as

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a parent, what's your initial gut
reaction? I'm a little frustrated because this

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young man is blessed beyond means.
His mommy and his daddy is a chef

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who just lost his job because of
the twenty dollars an hour increase. His

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mommy is a housekeeper that works when
he's at school so that she's available to

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him all day. And he is
never without, he has never been without.

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And I just there's just something about
this that is really really bugging me.

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To Jesus, Well, one,
I wouldn't force it. It's much

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easier when you start early. And
I will tell you that just as a

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point of comfort, not to take
from your personal story, but my producer,

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Neil Save, has a seven year
old and it goes through the same

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thing. It's not just you.
It is complicated. Kids are very smart.

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As a matter of fact, there
are studies that show that kids think

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on a genius level, and that
basically people parents, schools kind of ungeniusfy

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them because trying to put people in
a box and teach them about different things

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rather than understanding and reasoning. But
kids are very good problem solvers. Kids

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have a great intellect. They're thirsty, and they're taking it all in the

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concept of God, the concept of
faith, and the concept of these things

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are very difficult because everything is provided
for them. So imagine this with all

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those great blessings and all those things
that you described, that your child has

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the brain of a six year old. Now you take Adam and Eve,

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you put them in perfection, in
paradise, in the presence of God,

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and they still don't get it.
So don't expect the six year old to

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get it all. I would start
maybe with stories. There is a Bible

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that I have referred to on this
show, and I recommend called the Picture

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Bible. And yeah, so that's
a great start, especially when you go

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through the holidays. You can read
from that. There are cartoons that can

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be helpful about the basics of the
story of what's going on. Nativities in

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the house can be helpful. Yeah. I don't mean to interrupt you,

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but I will make you laugh.
Literally, when I was explaining to him

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why we got to go to Christmas
church, he ran and grabbed his little

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book of the Charlie Brown Christmas and
he read me the passage that line has

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read him. He's like, I
understand Christmas, Mommy, I don't need

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to go to church. Okay,
well, see that's a really wonderful thing.

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And by the way, I'll let
the other part slide. But when

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it comes to understanding, that's the
first part. That's first part of everything.

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You understand what it is first,
and then you understand what that means,

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what that knowledge means, and then
you apply it. A six year

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old is not going to apply it. As a matter of fact, a

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six year old is not at the
point of understanding. It's a matter some

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theologians believe that Heaven forbid, if
he passed today, he's not accountable for

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what he doesn't know because he's six. Some people say it's ten, some

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people say it's twelve. All of
these things the reality, Allison, all

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you can be is an example.
If he doesn't understand church or doesn't want

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to participate, that's a bigger issue
of trying to to explain the importance of

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getting together with you know, other
people, and there'll be other kids and

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they'll be opportunities to learn some things
and ask questions, but it is it's

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complicated, and unless they're going to
church day one and it's just part of

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the family, it's more difficult to
introduce it to them later. And having

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that structure is important, but it's
not always easy, especially in today's world.

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But the fact that a kid doesn't
want to go to church, it's

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not the end of the world.
The key is to understand first, because

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his communion, his connection is with
you, your family. That's where he's

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getting his coin and the at right
now, that communion, that connection later

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it will come from the church body, and you'll have to weave that in

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the curiosity. The curiosity starts now
in understanding I was trismacy, the true

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tick less set, unsafe other merry
Christmas to you. I know that there's

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a lot going on in the world, but celebrations and festivals and feasts and

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these things can be important to remind
you what life is and why it's worth

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fighting for, why it's worth celebrating, and in this particular case, to

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give thanks towards the birth of a
savior that could bring salvation to those that

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believe and have faith. Now,
not everybody will be in a state of

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joy, but this is still a
time of gathering and connecting. Eight hundred

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and five to zero one five three
four is the number if you have a

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theology question or life situation question anywhere
in the US of eight eight hundred and

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five to zero one five three four. Joanna, Welcome to the Jesus Christ

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Show. Hi Jesus, Yeah,
thank you for your birth and your resurrection,

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of course. And I just,
you know, like a lot of

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moms, I'm sure and grandmother's I
just I'm getting I'm seeing all the packages

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I've wrapped and I'm still making some
food. And I feel like with my

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kids, my daughter, I'm just
tolerated. It's not like I'm even wanted

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there. And I don't want to
be like, you know, it's just

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hurtful because I know I'm going to
go there, and it's just like they're

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doing an obligation and my son probably
won't even say a word to me,

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and my daughter just tolerates. And
this attitude has influenced I feel like my

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grandkids a bit not I mean,
they just don't see that included. I

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live like two miles from my daughter, for example, and here's an example.

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So you know, there her and
her husband are making tmallies. Well

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you know, she's Hispanic, he's
not. And it's like a you know,

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tradition in my family for years.
I am not included. I'm not

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asked to come, I'm not asked
for any you know, and it's this

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is the first time they've done it. And my daughter said, oh yeah,

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well we've got to Tomali's. You
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lot of people. But then she
let me know that she had invited mark

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my granddaughters, and it's hurtful.
I just don't. I know, there's

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a lot of things in the past, but I've tried to you know,

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well, her dad and I got
a divorce, and her anger towards me,

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it just doesn't stop. It just
doesn't matter what. Let's for the

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sake of you know, time,
We're obviously limited, and I want to

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ask you a couple questions, Joanna. First of all, is dad still

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in the picture anywhere? Yeah?
My ex husband, he lives two blocks

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from me and he if not,
we're neither one of us are married,

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although he has been married two other
times after me. Oh great, he's

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not married. So does he have
a relationship with the kids and the grandchildren?

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Oh? Yeah, they adore him. Okay, So did you activate

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the divorce? H I left?
Yeah? I left? Yeah, I

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left. Okay. So in your
words, and I know this can be

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hard to be objective, but to
look outside of the situation. Why do

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you think they have a problem with
you? Well, I'm I guess I

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do have strong opinions, but I
don't scare them. And then when I

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do, when I get abused,
what I feel like I've been used too

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much? Then out in a way
that's not good. Okay, So you

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weaponize your responses too, Well,
yeah, it has been but well,

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well after years, you know,
it takes a while. I mean,

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it's just so much abuse. Like
we were, I was babysitting constantly,

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and you know, I'm seventy at
least I was sixty five at the time,

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and just totally just dropping them off
and not concern And then when they're

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relatives, when his family would come
over from out of state, they would

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be taking him to dinner, taking
going to the kids of the zoo.

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But my hex husband and I were
simply the drop off people. And after

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a while, yeah, it got
to feel like geez, you know,

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so your ex husband was doing the
same thing, doing something similar, picking

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up, dropping off. Did he
have the same problems with it that you

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did. No, he did it, he did it. No, he

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doesn't, he does than that ever
at all? You know, Well,

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then, can I just heard one
thing? Jesus, this is just so

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it's so okay. So just real
quick, Like a month ago, October

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twenty fourth, my sister, my
oldest sister, this ady called me her

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kids embezzled her entire account, which
was over one million dollars, and quick

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claimed her home. She called me
from out of state. Yeah, she

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called me from out of state.
She's not even my closest sister, but

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you know, she's my sister.
So I said, I'm coming out there.

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I'll fly out there, and I
brought my ex husband. He's pretty

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mild mannered and she's got you know, he's despite the fact we've in the

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drawers whatever fifty years, were still
close in the family, and he felt

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she felt like she needed we needed
some support. So I went over that

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when we got there and in this
rush to save my sister because her the

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people that in bezzled are sitting there
in her home boasting that they have her

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house now. So we get her
car. We started to read in my

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ex and ended up having this episode
where he was like lost his mind,

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and I think later it was maybe
having to do with the hell high altitude

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from where we were living, and
I had to spend time in the emergency

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room. They wanted to do all
this stuff. I get my sister home

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back to California and he had some
test. It didn't show anything, and

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my daughter was very angry that I
didn't stay there. I cannot stay.

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I'm in California. Your dad seems
okay now he found me out, Joanna,

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she won't stay to me now,
Okay. Well, we're up against

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the clock and that's something. There's
something no. But I just want to

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say this, my dear, because
I can hear the frustration. I can't

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pull all the people in your daughter's
your ex I only have you the work.

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Sounds like it's your work that needs
to be done. Don't worry about

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them, and that's going to take
You're going to have to face it and

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say to make this better. You
know you're going to want to hear exactly

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what their problem is, your family, your daughters, because it it seems,

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I mean, even you giving me
specific dates October twenty fourth of these,

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that you keep things differently, you
hold them differently in your heart,

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and you express them differently, and
for whatever reason, that makes it difficult

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for people to enjoy your presence,
and then you don't enjoy it. And

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I don't think you deserve to be
in that situation, and I don't think

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they deserve to be in that situation. But the key is with you for

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your life, because you're the one
that's bold and brave enough to call in

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and ask the question. I'm giving
you the answer, and that is you

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need to do some work on yourself. But first of all, you need

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to have some very tough either letter
exchanges or sit downs with your daughter and

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say, what is it about me
that bothers. You I'm giving you.

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Don't argue with them, don't any
of that. You just take it,

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go home with it and see what
is real and what you feel you need

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to work on, because this is
to better you, not better them.

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You know, we come together on
Sundays. This show has been on for

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over two decades. I know,
right, kind of nutty, isn't it.

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It's been syndicated for over a decade, a meaning that it airs on

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some eighty stations or so across the
country. And the years and the cycles

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go by, and inevitably we come
across at least two major holidays, Christmas

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and Easter, and the importance of
these holidays to the believer, to the

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Christian one is the birth of hope, and one is the fulfillment of hope.

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The birth of hope, obviously is
celebrated on Christmas, and the completion

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the actualizing of that hope is on
Easter, the death on the Cross and

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the resurrection. If nothing else,
in the pain, in the loss and

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a lot of loss still in calls, we can't get to whether it's Dennis's

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sweet dog Anne and her friend that
she's trying to help, whatever it might

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be, contemplation of the afterlife from
John. Whatever it might be going through

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your head today on Christmas, whatever
it is, try to focus on the

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hope of the birth, the newness
of the birth, the faith that surrounded

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the birth, not only of Mary, the faith of Joseph, the faith

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of the Madge to traverse to get
to see the baby King. Focus on

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that hope. With every death there
is newness. With the end of something

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is the beginning of something else.
And to stare as much pain as it

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has involved in the loss of something
or someone, and that pain is real

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and should be experienced. However,
in addition to that comes the reality of

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life, of more trials and understanding, of more blessings, of more curiosity

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and fulfillment of knowledge, of passing
torches on to younger and newer generations.

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And even in all the pain and
confusion in the world, if just within

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this season you can take the time
and lean your faith on a birth and

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the newness of that birth, then
maybe that and wanting to serve others and

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having a servant's heart will give you
a perspective and insight that will go beyond

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your circumstances or situation and guide you
into an understanding that goes beyond this world

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into the next. Merry Christmas,
and remember these simple words, I am

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with you. Always reach out of
us face yep personogy esus. Someone want

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to hear, but someone who kills
your personogy ess.

