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This is Mac Maloney's Military X Files. And now here's Mac mulony. Well,
good eat doing the everyone to Welcome to Maccloney's Military Stall show here on
the Distant Thunder Radio netwhere Hey, this is Mac colony. Wow, what
a show we have for you tonight. But hey, girls, let me
introduce the members of the posse for us. And when I say girls,
I mean get ready, sit down, stop missing yourself. You know what
that means. Got a box of Kleenex because the very famous one one.
I think I know what it means, but I'm not sure. Is here
Hello girls, Hello Mac and everybody else and all ships at sea? You
know where I sit in the fan kingdom, I do get a lot more
emails from the female fan kingdom and said, okay, we know that.
Why you're bringing that up? I don't know. I just about a rub
it dan little bit. Okay, all right, well miss accomplished there unless
some of them are coming to you and you're suppressing them just because you're else.
Why would they do that. We're on the air, Yeah, we're
on the Hey, Coca, we're on the air. Nope that then,
right? Who is that? Yeah? What happened? It's Cobra harassing us?
So anyway, so all right, let's say we've we've we've scratched a
nerve here for a second. Happy to be here, by the way,
Okay, you have you get more female emails than the rest of us?
Is that we? I think? So? Really? Yeah? You know,
we haven't checked in with our male censor in a while. He's done
in Florida. Actually he's in Florida. Okay, last time I passed down
the orchestvation. No, see, we don't want to cut that out,
man, but we're gonna have to. Um. His thing is, Yeah,
he has a place down in Florida. He has a pool, yeah,
with a float with a float device on it that has a place for
a couple of six packs and I believe a couple of six packs, Yeah,
a couple of six backs, and I believe a little TV too.
He has not just a float, you know, it's a the flotation an
aircraft carry in the form more or less. Yeah, for the pool.
Yeah, so I guess he doesn't really come in then. Often he just
go out the anchors out right in the middle. Yeah. Well, all
of a sudden we got really hot there. I don't know what's going on
with this thing? Why do you Yeah, we're riding the pots there.
Yeah, it's kind of strange. But you know, I have to say,
when we hear the playback, it doesn't sound that beat. So anyway,
why don't we do this? Um? I get a feeling that switch
isn't there? Is that true? Okay? So why don't we do this?
Why don't we we take a quick commercial break now and try to get
these guys on. Okay, so oh wait a second, now, there
we go Okay, so why do we do this? We'll take a quick
commercial break. Now, we'll get the other two co defendants on and um,
you know we're really stopped the showing her and us. How's that there?
Okay, you're listening. I don't know. We got to find him
too. Um. And there's a joke there somewhere, and I don't know
where to go at it. So anyway, you're listening to mcmontney's Milt track
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Distant Thunder Radio networking. Wow, this is mcmloney. What a show we
have for you tonight. It's such a good show that we started off with
like a two minute intro and now we're going to do another intro. Yeah,
because you have more staff here. Now, okay, that's voice more
entertainment. Entertainment is right one one. That voice you here, girls is
in fact one one. Yes, it is very famous one one. And
he's in his head to toe rolling stones gear again always okay, always,
all right? How to raid the flag? That's good. Also on the
line with us calling from the Seagod location and rumored to be on penicillin.
They know must Coco on the street, but we know him as command to
Colmar please command command. On good evening, gentlemen, glad to be on
the wing, that you're not a rumor. Let me confirm that, yes,
I am on antibiotics. Really, he's growing his own Penicilla's got bread.
I took. I took some injury in the secret mission and I have
to be on penicillan for a few more days. Oh wow, literally,
what kind of injury? Um, can you tell us about? Because there
rather some things they treat the secret locate. What happens at the secret location
stays at the secret location. That's fine, what mes so? Anyway,
okay, so he's on penicillan, So that you used to be an internal
kind of thing we're talking about above it, it's not wow wow. You
know another voice, Yeah from I was gonna say, see what's happened the
way up already jumping on his man on the way up, stepping on him.
Yeah, on his intro. Well that that other voice you heard,
boys and girls, was a National correspondent up there in battle Quick Michigan Bowl
of Flakes, the almost equally as famous switchblades. He won. Great to
be here, Okay, you're sure that it? Yeah? Smartly great anyway,
Okay, I'm eaginally great. Okay talking to us from this limousine,
so you know, yeah, yeah, is that what I hear? Something?
He has the radio one like cobalt with the cracked windshield. It's sort
of like a map of the United States with all the cracks. And I've
got and that's the guy you're gonna drive out here to see us in.
That's funny, guy. I heard the report today. We're looking for a
hit and run with a cobalt today. That's funny. And what color was
that? It was a blue cobalt because mine is a slate gray metallic cobalt,
otherwise known as the gray ghost. That couldn't excuse the blue? Is
the thing I'm gonna take the over run to. Now? Is Ohio for
me? Okay? He won't make it any further than Ohio. Hey,
don't don't be talking. I just went I've been to Pennsylvania with it just
recently, you know, I mean, they don't care about that stuff.
So Okay, the whole world wants to know what did you have for breakfast?
The spawning switch. I had an omelet. They gets kind of a
filly steak omelet. You know those steak and eggs. I said, no
mushrooms. That's okay. Steak and eggs is the aston not to breakfast,
right right? Coca also along with and YouTube pilots. Wow, yeah,
because it's a low residue meal. Interesting, okay, that's good. And
coffee et cetera. Really yeah, and a tall glass of orange juice.
It's all protein. It just it nothing does very little, taking eggs,
steak and eggs, small bulk, small bulk, kneel like I do that
more often. Yeah, the stupid bread and everything. Yeah so that yeah,
right, that's all. And they would feed them that. That's what
they would eat before they would go up as my breaks. This place has
a like a steak steak bomb onlet. But you can have it anywhere you
want. Yeah right, yeah, a boy a steak in a steak in
the morning. That might be a little tough for me in that form.
It's great, is it? Yeah? So oh there's not much, it's
you know, so listen, the whole gang is here, which is great
to be hungry. Now yeah, you know, see that's the problem,
you know, other than that, and the TV doesn't mark. But hey,
we're on the radio, so glad he you one here, So why
don't we do this? You know, there was this weird switching. I
were talking off here, as they say in the biz, about what is
the you know, what is one real case military case where there's just like
so much evidence that you have to say something happened, just something, you
know. Rendersham is one of them, the Gander one where the all the
pilots were crowded up in the cockpit of the Navy plane and the thing came
up and flew right beside, and so you had a lot of pilots as
witnesses. So there was this. So I went through the you know,
the files and everything. Like I said, we talked about this, you
know before coming on the year and there's a story from thank teen fifty seven.
Now you remember the A B forty seven recon bombers. Yes, featured
prominently in Wingman three well four. Because I lost track of where you are
right, because you have so many, so many of the volumes that Fopus
has just continue to come out of the press. There it's a whole new
second. You feature the RB fifty seven as he made the run back the
area fifty one. Wow. Okay, all right, I'll have to take
your word for it. They have no memory of that in all. But
anyway, so what they did the creative process. Now, this is a
B forty seven, the B forty seven, the little brother of the B
fifty two. Okay, it was like in the fifties. They basically took
a fighter aircraft design and they stretched it. They needed a strategic bomb or
we reach Russia. You know, well, they needed something that had tactical
kind of capability, right, but it had strategic legs in it. So
that's why they made this petic air plane because it had a very particular maneuver
it would do with that airplane, right, they would drop the bomb and
then they'd you know, go off at Yeah, it's called over the shoulder.
It's called an over the all the throw. So what happens is is
basically you run at the target, you pull up, and you do like
a half loop, and you just throw them out in the loop. That's
when the bomb goes off. It depatches from the aircraft. You get maximum
throw, okay, and then you continue up and they go inverted and then
they do like an emilment and dive down on the other side. Are you
describing it? Mac was doing it with his arms and his like if his
walk, if his wristwatch catches on fire, he's a really good planet.
So anyway, so what they did was, so they just had this plane.
It's kind of an odd plane because it really does kind of look like
a smaller plane that was just stretched in places and headed crew of three and
it had I think six jets, and so this thing was active like in
the fifties. And so then when the B fifty two came in, it
was basically a placeholder for the B fifty two because the B fifty two is
just much more sophisticated and still around. So anyway, they took a lot
of these B forty seven and they made them into recon bombers, is what
they used to come them. Now, they wouldn't really carry weapons. What
they would do is they'd stuffed them full of stuff like very early primitive electronic
cound of measures gear and that's just like jamming gear, and they would put
stations for three more guys in the plane, I'm sure in the bomb bankers,
and we're carrying bombs, and they would go out on these What they
would try to do is they would fly over enemy radar stations. This is
in late fifties. Now, this is pretty good. This is the fifty
two. We're talking about forty. They could fly over like their radar stations
and stuff. And even then they could pick up the heat from the radar
and they would they could direct other planes and to bomb the enemy radar sites.
And that was something that was I know they were trying to do that
in Vietnam, but they were actually doing that in the late fifties, which
was kind of amazing to me. So so anyway, so they have this
plane and it's out on a night mission. It takes off the Topeka,
Kansas. It's like in the summer of nineteen fifty seven, and you get
the three guys up front and engineered to pilot and a co pilot, and
they get these three guys like kind of towards the back of the plane e
wo Electronic Warfare offices and they're lording the two euo's one navigator that the third
guy up front is a navigator. Oh okay, and and they're looking at
these screens, right. So they go out, they take off from Topeka,
they go over Texas. They have gun to repractice whatever that is,
or the Texas. They go out over the Gulf of Mexico and they have
a navigation exercise, and then they come back in over the Gulf of Mexico
and then kind of come in right over Gulfport, Mississippi. Okay. Now,
they were about five minutes from actually like making landfall. And the guy
on one of these radar scopes that is looking for the heat signature of you
know, soon to go. What they've done, They've arranged to have all
these coast Guard and Navy installations along the coast light up their radars so to
see if the plane could see them. Right, It's just four in the
morning, okay, So the guy gets his stuff already, and all of
a sudden he sees a heat signature okay on his scope, but it's following
the airplane. Okay. The airplane's going four hundred and fifty miles an hour,
right, and it's at like twenty thousand feet and there's something right on
its tail. And he's looking and he thinks something's wrong with the stuff,
and he's said, we're clicking buttons, who knows, and it goes away.
So he does be like a double echo or something something you know shadow.
You know, yeah, he just too would remember from your time one
one being able up the sonar shadow. The same thing happens in radar electronics,
right, Okay, remember that I do remember. So anyway, so
like it was yesterday, for some reason, he doesn't tell the pilot,
doesn't tell the pilot. Okay, So now they're flying along and they finally
go out and they're over landfall now, so they can big turn into the
left, let's say, to the west, and now they're going to go
up to Texas and up back to Kansas. So as soon as they make
landfall, um, the thing comes back the guy and so then he tells
the pilot and the pilot goes, you know what you're shore and so on
and so forth. And as he's talking the things, that's rings around the
forty seven, which is a sub stand le airplane. It's literally flying rings
around this thing. And they're going almost five hundred miles an hour, all
right, And the guy has the electronic tape showing it all. Yeah.
So the pilot goes wow. So I think what happened is they might have
changed their ra altitude to change their course slightly, and all of a sudden,
the pilot and the cop can see this thing. It's a red shape
of some flying right alongside them, and the pilots going wow, look at
this, you know, And so they try to train into it and the
thing turns and stuff. All the radars on the plane are lightening up like
crazy, right, So he calls the local leoport all right, the local
civilian airport, and they said, you here's something on your radar and they
go wow, yeah, we see it too, is flying right alongside you.
And they're going wow. So he gets permission from the air Force to
chase it. Now you're in this big bomber baby, and I mean,
so let's go. So they start chasing this thing, you know, and
I's or thirty in the morning over Texas. They chased this thing and then
finally they had to they ran out of fuel. They could never catch it.
It would disappear. But then we'd go right across their nose. They
chase it, it would disappear. It was like this plane tag with the
middle right. Wow. Yeah, so they had to finally, you know,
they were random will and fuel. So they had abandoned that. Yeah,
they just had to go back. You had to go back and hand
it off to anybody. Nope, no, And so then they sent it
to Project blue Book. And Project blue Book after six months sent the back
of reply and it said it was an al liner. Well, it was
picked up on different radars I think, wasn't it Utah and so forth?
Yeah, and picked up on a lot had a classic radar visual, but
on some of the radars it just kind of winked out. But here you
are, you have a plane that's full of radar equipment, and and so
they had they have it all. You know something that when when they talk
about the US military, you know, holding secrets back from us, what
they're probably holding back is like literally the electronic tape of what happened that night,
right CEC Absolutely, Yeah, I mean they that that thing got stored
some probably been studied a bunch of times, and then it got buried in
the animals of h story. Vietnam comes along all the other stuff, right,
and that just disappeared. Yeah, different priorities or whatever. You know,
so, so yeah, that was an interesting story. And these guys
they were they were just training because they were about to Globa to Germany in
nineteen fifty eight and they were, you know, running these things up down
the iron cart. And I'm sure you know it those guys still alive.
Who knows, sir, I don't know, you know, but it's a
that's a fairly famous case there, right should she? Yes? And uh,
did you guys know about the another famous case non Ufo though I put
an RB forty seven in nineteen sixty. What happened? He was just they
were shot down by the Soviets. They were some kind of a going from
the UK up to uh northern part of Norway and they claimed they were like
thirty miles away, but the Solviets shot them down. Anyway, two of
the captains survived. They kept him in prison for seven months and interrogated him.
You know, violated Geneva Geneva Convention. Well it wasn't it wasn't really
a Geneva Convention mission. So the you got to be careful when we start
tossing that around. Tell us, well, who's a signatory and who's not
a signatory? I do not believe the Soviet Union signed onto the Geneva Convention.
It could be, but they were pretty nasty anyway, They tried to
get them to make a signed confessions and so forth, and they what stood
them for seven months and they finally released them. So, but they were
so what we're saying is that they said they were flying over Norway, but
they had straight or they allegedly straight Well what what what I understand maybe Cobra
goes most more that they actually, you know, we're thirty miles away,
so they It does sound like the celebrants were the bad guys in this case.
And I'd be willing to bet not familiar with this particular case. We
penetrated their airspace all the time, right, yep. Penetrating. Yes,
I was waiting for that, obviously I'm not. I don't I don't rank
the sound depicts. So this happened. And then of course when you did
that and you got the uh the read that you had fighters coming after you
and you would go back out the neutral airspace. That's the same thing that
happened with KL zero zero seven. They followed that airliner for hours, uh
you know when it went because they actually did fly into Soviet airspace because they
had miscount they had entered the coordinates incorrectly into the I and S, which
bought them. We should do a show, Loves, We should do a
show on that, because that's a really interesting case. Those Well, the
part that's most interesting about it is is that the you know, they we
played it as you know it was and it was a horrible thing that they
did. They shot that plane now, but they thought they had caught in
our C one thirty five cobra ball mission. Yeah, and there was cobra
ball missions flying that night, right, And what the cobra balls would do
is they would go back onto airline tracks when they were being caught, right,
yeah, sure, to confuse it. So the Soviets were looking at
it. The big question is did it really look like a cover ball when
they got that close to take the shot, you know, at night going
on with that thing, or were they trying to make a statement. But
there are there are guys that have spoke to that have flown up onto airliners
thinking that was their tanker at night yep. And and and they're the tankers,
you know, eight miles away, right, but they visually idd it
and you know, they're getting nervous about doing a night tank right and getting
hooked up, and then they find out it says, you know, some
airline on the side of it. So it happened. We should we should
really do a show about that. Because but on top of all that,
and the fact that you know, a lot of these kind of weird things
happened that night, and there were US military planes in the area and so
on, and so on top of it all, the space shuttle was going
right over the top of it. My movis was happening, and a lot
of it was a military space shuttle mission, I think, which they used
to go up every once in a while. You wouldn't hear them about them.
If that's true, then that's you know, like I'm another added element
to something. So we should do a showing that ka L double O seven.
Right when was that nineteen eighty so yeah, I think that was right
around what eighty one, I could look it up. What we're talking about.
It's like one was a Korean airline, I'll leaven from the United States
going to Korea, so you know, either straight into Russian territory or they
didn't. But the Russian shot had down, killed everyone on board, and
I'll tell you that was the beginning of the end of Russia. Ben that
was the beginning of the end, because that was kind of a lot of
people around the world drew the line then and said, you just can't be
shooting The airline is out of the air, out of you know, the
sky for no reason. You know, the the Israelis have done it,
but you know, the airline went straight over their nuclear plant and the negative
does it? I think? Um? And they shot it down as an
Egyptian the airline, so I don't know. September one eighty three, yeah,
okay, right, but that was kind of the beginning of the end,
don't you think. And then Coobbe took over, and I think that
that was the the crack that got someone like gorber Chaffen who Naccio had,
Reagan the German, you know, and he had the triad that he had
was Thatcher and Pope John Paul, so you know that was his his hammer
and his anvil that he was going to break the sickle there was very well
two tough dudes. Yeah, well, if you want to go that way
anyway, all right, So listen, why don't we do this, Why
don't we go the way of a commercial and we'll be right back after the
You're okay? They one way, I am ready okay, and we'll talk
to switch and then we got a you know, rest of fun filled show
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Here is a very famous, very famous girls, very famous one one.
I'm still here. How you're doing, Mac? Hello? Girls?
You know glad you're with us tonight. Okay, holding our hands figuratively.
I hope cass any turbulence on the show. Okay, we should tell people
a buck of this. If you get shot down, well, you never
know. The night is young. Also on the phone with us is joining
us from a secret location and under the weather. As they say in the
biz, they call him Coco on the street, but we know him as
coming on in Cobra, getting me, gentlemen, glad to be on the
winging In the words of May West, I suggest you're putting your seat belt.
It's going to be a right in a minute. Didn't Betty's dave to
say that? Not that I would know that was worst. I think it
was Betty Davis. Do we want to have a bet? We'll have a
we're having a movie expert on later on. Well, they may may both
may both have said it, but I know Betty Davis said it. You
know he truly you are a man going to the top. Maybe they anybody
who can do a one eighty that quickly? Really? Yeah, they cover
both bases. You're like, you get bets on both sides of the table.
You can't lose. It's unbelievable. Good point Colle called good point.
So listen, this is the man the way up a segment because that other
voice you hear is um very famous, getting famous, switched played Steve one
up there in the bull flanks. It was Betty Davis, And it's great
to be here. Wow, okay, it's Betty Davis and um, you
know we've already established that he had it. You are correct. I was
sure it was May West. Maybe they said it to each other. Um,
you know he had steak and anks for breakfast, the Astronaut breakfast.
Wow, okay, switch man, that looks pretty good doing it too.
That was a wonderful impression. This switch. We should give him around them
applous come on, but thank thank you. I love when he channels the
h inner self. It's really bad. Okay, yeah, like inner Betty
Davis. Yeah right, that's the guy who complained to us about still lettos.
Okay, why don't we yeah, yeah, okay, Well Cobra was
right, because we are gonna have to strap in for this one, this
report here, hang on, hang on, yeah, okay, now one
one ready, five stars? Right, why don't we just salute Coco just
to get over not to get over with, just so well we forget spoken,
I understand, waiting medication? Who care? There we go call it
off the oney can Yeah okay, all right, that's not bad. Okay,
please switch as you work as you were, carry on, lad,
this is Switches segment. We're stepping all over the man in the way ups
toes. Yeah, we've been to watch ourselves, so switch, how are
you doing tonight? Everything okay, beyond wonderful? Okay, And what's your
report about tonight? You're right, report from the fringe, as they call.
We need some theme music. Then, well, the way this,
uh, the way this report will fit together is that it won't fit together.
It's like having puzzle pieces from several different puzzles that are perfect shot together.
Okay, that's the X Files. One would almost say it's a good
bit exactly. Okay, it's nice. We have to jam the pieces together
make it. We don't. We don't want to, we don't want to
edit the show. Go ahead, please. It's nineteen forty five, cold
winter morning in February in Boston. A badly injured man is dropped off to
the emergency ward of the US Public Service Hospital. All right, Uh,
it's kind of a it's a it's apparently it's an ambulance, but it's on
mark, there's no name on it. It doesn't look like it's an ambulance.
It belongs to the hospital or a private ambulance. And this man is
really in bad shape. So this uh, this amb ambulance driver who doesn't
look like an ambulance driver, doesn't have the uniform or anything like that helps
the on duty nurse get him onto a an examining table, and all this
mysterious visitor says is that you will call this man Charles Jamieson, and then
he leaves. So, now Jamieson, that's the ambulance driver, saying that
to the that is this ambulance driver, which doesn't make any sense. He
should be staying saying around there, making contact with the medical personnel and so
forth, and giving him some kind of background. Now this guy, this
this uh, this, this injured man is about in his forties. It
looks like he's comatose. He has skin lacerations, he has suffered a mild
stroke. Apparently his back and his legs have shrapnel wounds as scars on them,
and he has a scar on his cheek that was sewn up but obviously
not professionally when they examined him. He has tattoos on him that were representative
of both the US and Britain. Now, they were unable to trace the
driver. They couldn't find any any call, you know, any anybody that
dispatched an ambulance either you know, as part of the hospital or private or
whatever. And so that was another mystery. Now, the one thing they
questioned the nurse and she said, well, what does this guy look like?
And he, uh, he was wearing a she said, kind of
a blue overcoat with brass buttons. She said, he looked more like a
coat that somebody would wear on a navy ship than anything else. Now,
the Boston detectives came in to check him out. This guy's got no ID.
They sent out his fingerprints to every agency that they can think of.
Nothing. So they they called him John Doe. Even though he's got this
uh, this name that he's been given. He's called Charles Jamison. Now
he eventually he comes out of his comatose stage, but still does not speak
for a long time. He's paralyzed from the waist down. Months later,
all of a sudden, out of nowhere, one of the nurses hears him
say in a British accent, I simply do not know. So Doctor Oliver
Williams takes a special interest in the Jamison case and as well as a there
was some indications that this guy from some of the things that he started to
say that he was in the navy. Somehow, this guy wasn't just a
medical professional, he was also a nautical scholar. So he uh. Oh,
By the way, the source of this is Fate Magazine, March nineteen
ninety seven by Ron Edwards. And there's nothing better than a stack of Fate
magazines, you know, to have great sources of information. But anyway,
back to the article. Williams started questioning Jamison and he would he could get
him talking, he would pursue a line of questioning and he would keep going
until he stopped being responsive. So Jamison started recalling events. It seemed like
they were from the previous century. He talked about William Gladstone, who lived
from eighteen o nine to eighteen ninety eight. Uh, Benjamin Disraeli. Disraeli,
I believe the name is, uh, eighteen o four to eighteen eighty
one, And he was talking just forty five, So he's talking as if
they were still alive. He describes several different campaigns of Napoleon Bonaparte, who
died in eighteen twenty one, not as if it was a history lesson,
but as something that he was familiar with. Yeah, go ahead, like
it just happened. He was just talking just associated at time, almost like
he's a time travel Yeah. Now that one loose sucked, but you know
the rest of the deal wasn't too bad. He determined that he would say
things like we cleared the harbor. Okay, so I mean there's a lot
of a lot of nautical references. There a man named Alton Barker who was
chief of the British Information Service. They call him in and instead of directly
questioning this guy Simington, he would start he'd sit down like he was just
an old sailor and start spinning yarns to see if he could just trigger his
memory. He would show him photographs of that time period that he'd been talking
about. He also showed him some sleeve markings for various British uniforms that went
back fifty years, and he purposely changed some of them so that they were
inaccurate. Say, at one point, Simington says, how ridiculous can that
be? And he noticed that there were four different ones that were completely wrong.
So his mind was very sharp in some ways. And you know,
this went back quite a few years. He showed him several pictures of yesteryear
and navy ships and so forth. One he showed him a picture of the
Royal Navy Ammunition Depot and he looks at it and he says, that's in
London. I have been in that building. Trouble is that that building the
picture was taken about eighteen ninety. That building was long gone. Charles said
he was forty nine. The photo was taken almost half a century before he
would have even if he had been eighteen when he enlisted, he would have
had to have been about eighty. So all this stuff wasn't wasn't making any
sense. And then he claimed that he was aboard the Bellerophon, the HMS
Balerophon, which was commissioned in nineteen oh seven, and at some times when
they were asking him questions, he would act as if he was a prisoner,
a prisoner, and he wouldn't you know, prisoners do not do not
answer questions specifically. They're very general or very vague. And he would start
to do that as if he wasn't aware that World War One was long long
gone. He said on the Bellerophon that they he said, we set a
course westward for Jutland, and they asked, what are you in that battle?
And he said yes. And now there was a battle on the Bellerophon
fought in May of nineteen sixteen off the coast of Denmark. Okay, So
none of this is making any sense now. They kept over the years,
you know, they've kept trying to find information on this guy. And they
got a hold of somebody got ahold of the manifest for the USS Lejune,
and there was a strange notation in the official documents, and it says a
Charles William Jamieson had been picked up bit c time unknown. He was assigned
to Le June's manifest out of Southampton, England. This is January nineteen forty
five, arrives in Boston February nineteen forty five, and at the bottom it's
written Charles William Jamieson July seventeenth, eighteen ninety five, Boston, Massachusetts,
Catholic, four years at a prisoner German prisoner of war camp in Belgium.
The manifest looks all proper and its typed and so forth, except for the
stuff about Jamieson. It's all handwritten. Now. One of the tattoos that
Jamison had were worn by those that served on the Cutty Sark Cutty Sark was
a three masted clipper designed for speed. They confirmed the existence of the ship,
but had it was launched in eighteen sixty nine out of Scotland. It
was active during there was a trade between English and Chinese and I guess it
was in commission to active maybe until almost the nineteen twenties. But in nineteen
twenty two it becomes a training ship. So they did some they were and
again they're doing research and unfortunately they didn't have Google back in those days,
so it took a long time to find out anything. But they got a
hold of a log of a German submarine. The crew of the U twenty
four in the records they spotted a three masted clipper ship on the morning of
July tenth, nineteen forty one. It was the Cutty Sark. According to
this dislog it was torpedoed and the sole survivor's name was Charles William Jamison,
who was in fact transferred to a German prisoner of war camp in Belgium.
Okay, it's going to get stranger now. This was a record of a
William jamieson aboard a sailing ship that had not been at sea for more than
twenty years. So how could the Cutty Sark been torpedoed by a German U
boat in the North Sea when it's supposed to be She is supposed to have
spent the entire war docked in England. Now, at one point he wrote
the word heinmona h I N E M O n A. Okay. It
turns out that's a cargo ship that carried nitrates from Chile to British ports.
Okay, okay. He says, I was aboard that ship and we were
sunk by a German Submary. So he's got the wrong ship. And the
Cutty Sark doesn't make any sense because it was supposed to be active, but
the Himona survived World War Two, so it wasn't apparently wasn't damaged or torpedoed.
So big mystery. What's what's going on here? Charles Jamison, he
died January nineteenth, nineteen seventy five. He you know, he didn't over
a period of time. They only got so much information out of him,
and apparently he couldn't remember most of what had happened. About one hundred people
attended the funeral service at the Siemens Bethel in Bedford and New Bedford and had
an honor guard. You know, was a really nice event. A Everett
Allen, the assistant editor of the New Bedford Standard Times, gave the eulogy.
And here's just a couple of things. He said, one man who
was alone and alone in a most unusual sense. He did not even have
an identity. A name is less important than an affirmation of brotherhood. This
man is welcome here, he is among friends. He is now at home,
regardless where his home may have been. Wow, well, I gotta
I just have to ask Cobra two questions. You're there, sec I am
okay. First of all, is that what they named the Scotch after Gatty
Sack? And also question two, I mean, what a German view boat
really topped away? It was a three masted schooner right, Well, if
you remember correctly, the Coastguard training vessel of the Coastguard Cutter Eagle was a
war reparation from World One. It came from Germany and they still use that
today. So that is a military ship. There were ships of sale,
and most of them did have a power source as well, you know,
some kind of a drive system for a propeller, ship's propeller in it,
so that wasn't uncommon and there were some advantages. The cuddy stuck. Actually
they went and encountered that. They did try to take off and get away
from the submarine, so they weren't going to have any of that. And
that's when it supposedly there torpedoed a ship that wasn't torpedoed. Whatever that means.
Man, that's crazy. It's almost like to have almost a time travel
story. But it's almost like this guy was exposed to an earlier version of
mk Altar or something like that, because it's poor guy's memories are just all
all scattered. And then why, you know, there's so many questions,
why did they drop this poor guy off that time period. It would be
interesting today with today's capabilities, because there would be some things you could do.
Obviously they didn't do, like a dental examination on him, because you
could tell right by his dental work if he was a time traveler. I
mean he is really from that period. You would see things that would only
be from that period of time. You know, X rays to his body
to see if he had you know, the typical body frame of someone of
that period. You know, so you don't have any of that kind of
forensic data. You don't have that kind of collection, none of the DNA
to go with it, none of the stuff to go forward with it,
because that would be very interesting in today. That's kind of standard how they
do things, you know, with it. But the part that you mentioned
there at the end there switch about him being programmed or part of something like
a MK ultra type project is very is very telling to me. Wow,
something we don't expect in that time period. But you know, I personally,
I maybe we maybe Adam bomb in this time period, so we were
capable of doing some stuff and they made the radio, you know, thirty
years before that. So wow, okay, sounds like switch. You fall
up your chair there. Yes, I'm back, I'm back on. I'm
good. I guess he's doing some in depth cutty sark investigation. This one
in the glass he was pouring a cutty sark. So listen. So well,
let's get back the question one is, I mean, what's cutty sack
Just the name of a three masted schooner, like a series of three masted
schooners arrows there one cutty sock. I got the impression it was one cutty
starch. Yeah, I do, and that's what they named the booze after
this mysterious Yeah. Yeah really wow. Okay, well I guess that makes
sense. And some kind of screwy way Jamieson sounds familiar to Yeah, no
really sure, Well Jamison is the family that makes the this Catholic family makes
the Scotch and oh well come, it's been a midfloated by the whiskey companies
obviously, so why don't we do this well as thank you? Switch?
I feel like we should give switch round of applause. It was a great
article about this guy, very movie Okay, yeah, I love those kinds
of stories. Um, and there's thousands of them out there, you know.
I guess it's our job to bring you every single one of them.
Yeah. Some people would say, well that's yes, but well, you
know he had too many identifying yeah, visuals, mockers yeah, earlier yep,
but you know it's in just like the thirty seconds we have left.
It seems like there were lots of cases around the world in the fifties of
people who would just like kind of show up. You know, there's a
case of some guy I think it was late fifties or early sixties. He
just showed up like a japan internationally ap point and he had like a passport
that said he was from this country. You know, it's a different country,
and he knew things, but he didn't know something. You know,
I don't know. You know who knows. It's a big world out there.
So I'll tell you what. Why don't we take a commercial breakdown and
thank you switch again for that report, and we'll be right back after this.
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all right, class enough the joint Also switch blade Steve Wood from the Bowle
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here. Okay. He had the Astronaut's breakfast today. Steaking eggs is interesting.
I don't think I've ever had one, but I've had that, but
I didn't realize it was an all protein thing. Yeah, it's an all
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that everyone is craving most famous segment ten Questions A one one. Everybody loves
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to read the ten Questions is everyone's favorite bomb aide. What can I say?
Megan, Megan, Megan, Hello, everybody, we love it.
Meghan does it the best? Okay, So anyway, so many say something
wrong. I don't know, we'll check later hour. Things down at the
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Actually really busy right now? The bars back? Yeah, because the
bruins a kind I kind of got kicked out of my seat. Oh no,
we should spend some day, send someone down that a fix that.
Okay, So why don't we do this? Why don't we start with the
ten questions? Okay, ten questions for one one. Some of these actually
were written in to us, but you know, let's see what happens.
Okay. Megan Rgan famous bout ten from the Stopping Gallery reading the questions,
please, question number ten? Have you ever put on someone else's pants by
mistake? I think about it for cycle. Have you ever, like in
the dock and the haste, put on someone else's pants by no? But
I put my pants on backwards by mistake? Yeah, I'm going where the
hell's the fly? Not that big of surprise, question number nine, Please
Megan, is it true do you once tried to invent viagra Martini? Yes,
you told me, yeah, did it work? Not yet? There's
a waiting period yet, okay. Next question a whole four hours, four
weeks, four days that you haven't been visiting. Okay, please, next
question Megan, Reggan, Please, we know you have two lovely daughters.
If you had a son, would you have named him want one wand one?
Which would name him one one one one? I would have named him
Hay sous I love who? Next question please, Megan, Regan, you
and Mac frequently meet in local bars during the week to discuss the show.
On a scale of one to ten. How much actual work is done at
these meetings? About the two percent show? I would say minus zero if
that's but anyway, next question. We're having a good time. Yeah,
right, it's good for the local economy. There's kids going to college because
of these two we're trying to do exactly big tips to the girls. Okay,
all right, Um, don't get right trade secrets here on next please
Megan. Right, if a Chinese style offered to buy you a drink and
some chicken wings in exchange for everything you know about US Navy submarines. How
would you respond, man Um? I would like to say I'd be a
blabbering idiot, but that's not true. I would be totally squared away and
all right, not offered any kind of information whatsoever. Well, we know
that's not accept accept my newport right out of the career, very inside.
Next question, please, Megan, when's the last time? When's the last
time you were kissed? I have a bartender. I do remember it.
I think that's about a month ago. Noticed that female, so that you're
really covered both the right. Well, what's what do you tell a female
bartender? It's a bartender? Right? So? Yeah, that's it?
Yeah, yeah, next five months ago? Okay, all right, that's
how you remembered about it. What else do you want me to recount?
All right, to recount the exact son forgetable, the smoothiness, Yeah,
amount of contact. I better go out to an explay. Okay. Have
you ever buried a bone? Is that slang? Is that street slang or
something? Have you buried the bone? Now? The internet is lighting up?
Wow, Urban Dictionary online sounds like a Next question, please, Magan
rank, let's stab agap. Oh my god, true or false. There's
a place in the universe called a showerhead galaxy? Can we see that through
the telescope to last Tuesday? Anyway? Wow, I heard of it.
This is really want to ask me? Is there or setting it up?
Believe me? There is next question? Please. I think if we obtained
video of you being abducted and probed by aliens? Would you be upset?
If mac had it romantic music to it? So long as it was a
nice romantic probing. Yeah, okay, alright, little Barry, he's indication.
Get a long as it's tasteful. Okay, that's right, alien probing
of the third kind or something you know? All right, well that fa
that's okay, Magan. We have the last question yet, Yes we are
alright, last question here we go. Okay, we see to ask this
a lot. But you recently went out drinking with Max wife. How many
things you have to apologize for the next day? How long was that email?
It was a few paragraphs, but I apologize my butt off? Okay,
all right, but then I was given complete Uh, I was given
a pendance. That's solution. Yeah, yeah. Is it difficult to apologize
that's been done to romantic music. One only can wonder you know this episode.
I really need to redo my meds right after this. Send me something
please, So wow, there you go. Um ten questions from one one.
I think we should all Drene herself. Toby is absolutely nothing. Oh
really yeah, okay, well maybe she's just trying to be nice you through
a lawyer. Thank you Megan for that. Once again, Thank you,
Megan, wonderful. I had fun a person I don't our way up and
she took a time out of our busy schedules to be with us tonight.
So which thank you denying family ties to be here with us tonight right,
yes, from a New York City. Oh man, that's a long one.
Well, thank you, and thank you to your visitor. And we'll
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you're listening to Mac Maloney's military X piles and now here's Mac just fell off
my headphones. Wow, okay, where are you now? Hey, welcome
back and everyone to back alone. He's military. So I'll show here on
the just in thunder right in network of this back one in the studio at
this tonight, the very famous Man of Cobra see good eating sitting in one
one seat. Well it has actually it's not one one seat. Because I
don't want one one to be upset that I would sit in a seat.
I brought a different seat into the committed seat. I said to you that
that had a better chairs here, and you kind of decline, declined because
I didn't want to have the whole thing kick up with the guappo, the
beautiful one. Something. He wants us to go the beautiful one. So
listen, we got a letter over the it's the elephant in the room.
Yes, and I can't bring this. I can't find the letter, so
I think the NSA got into something. But I mean it was basically what
it said was and it came from a one one source, which was actually
kind of unusual too, right, He's just a source to one one that
wrote one one had asked this person to read the three you know, listen
to the show and give him a kind of a take, and let's work
from the bottom up. She really enjoyed one one thought One one had great
grasps with the material, very natural. Added, we had warmth, empathy,
we had it was in depth and finally dressed and finally dressed. But
she couldn't actually see that. She was basing that on what she saw when
one one had contact. Because it's radio, we can't see how we knowing
him. He delivered the shows personally, that's yes, I think that that's
probably it's probably well dressed, probably well dressed, and he obviously he's a
very charming man. I mean missus. Carber left very impressed and is looking
forward to hopefully seeing him and his lovely bride this weekend at our get together
out in Maine at the Compound. So then she had I think about the
five words I like cover too, or I listened to let yeah the letter.
So I I basically got an honorable mention, but I didn't take any
things that I liked. Cobra. I liked Cobra, and then, uh,
well, let's just say that like one one like Cobra I think it's
more than liked on on okay, yeah, super ld super late supper light
and liked me and uh to even out this amplitude of the wave, Hell
had some choice remarks for your I wish we had it your showmanship. I'm
desperitately trying to find it. But in short, she thought that some of
your humor, uh was amateurish or male masculine dominated and uh and didn't you
know that you maybe were some such subjective towards women. I think, no,
no, no, I'm not Donald Trump. Okay, I don't that
is not but it's about all right. What it's about is just the humor
and to educate. So anyway, and then she wrapped it up by saying,
you know, I'm not sure if I'm gonna listen to it anymore help
me himself. I think it was how she signed it, sincerely, you
know, an episode fan. So anyway, so it's been on my mind
all night, and I'm thinking, well, how many times are you gonna
do the snare drum? How many times are you gonna? You know,
Mac, don't change a thing for me. Mac, alright, glad to
hear that, Glad I have your support. Thanks, very much. Switch
by do you want to until I'm sorry you do you do you want to
tell you how to laundry? You get an honorable mention or nothing at all?
Nothing good, bad, no, neutral. No, we didn't she
didn't go past the hosting of it. The guests were not brought up.
The Big three. Yeah, I don't know. I don't even know if
the Big threes are. I just you know, the standard bearers, the
ones they took the took the examination. Yeah, all right. So I'm
sorry you had to hear that switch But that's what was been on my mind,
and that's been I don't know, just tell my mind dad during the
Indio show. So we got a complaint letter and you got just you know,
there is one thing I can't remember another complaint letter. I mean,
any letters we get, there's usually the usually posit of all this suggestion.
There was one that was that you sported me because and you're all, you're
pretty self effacing. You always tend to always throw out the good stuff that
people say about the rest of us, and whatever is kind of a shot
at you you throw out for us to look at. Someone says something about
the way your voice sounded, and you had boogers in your nose or something.
I remember that. You remember that one. No, I think you're
dreaming. No, no, no, there's something on that scale of that.
And you said, yeah, but at least we got someone, you
know, participating, And like I said, the vast majority is if people
take time to write. It's sort of like, maybe you got something good
to say, I'll write it if it's if it's something, I'm not going
to listen anymore because we don't force anybody to listen. Um, well,
I think there was suggesting that I was, you know, snorting something on
the air. That's what the whole book of thing was about. That's how
I took it. Well, okay, I mean say Bolivia boogers. I
didn't catch that at all. And now another email search that has been misremembering
that too. No, you know, so anyway, switch, how you
doing tonight? Good? I can't wait for the follow up emails about the
booger comments. Yeah that's right. Yeah, well, you know, you
never know who's listening in so right now, only have to worry about is
killer clowns. Okay, and we've already talked about clown drones. That's come
up already this evening. It's now a worldwide apocalypse of clowns. England,
Germany, the Benelux, Canada, New Zealand and Australia has joined in on
this clown situation. Clowns. This is what we get in two thy sixteen
clowns. It's supposed to be the jetsums and we're getting like clowns. But
I saw today that that how about this? And it morphs into another outrageous
thing. Two people in Nebraska, a mother and a father, were rested
for leaving their infant at home while they were out dressed as clowns and terrorized
people. Okay, okay, now you know, I'm starting to think that
one of those seals in the Book of Revelations, when the angel breaks it
is clowns are left. Looks, Okay, that's what I think is happening
here. I don't I don't mean to go all you know, religious on
everybody again, but who else would except the one that's called Cobrid. I'm
just passing out on an apple. Okay, I'm passing on an apple from
the tree and knowledge. I think this is a connection, you know,
and and what they supposed to be clowns were in the piple. This is
in the clowns. But wow, I mean clowns. It's just strange.
And these you know, these people up in Nebraska, and who knows what
they would do. And they probably had a couple of you know, Coca
colas themselves, and they were wrong. They said, Okay, so we
get we gotta go out and get the clown uniform and the costumes. Okay,
we have to make each other roup and you make that checklist, but
you forget to get babysitter on that checklist on the four month year old kid.
Yeah, babysitter? Yeah yeah, baby? Does that get on the
checklist? No, it's probably like what baby. I know people that have
been arrested for making math got a babysitter for the kids? Okay, they
got a babysitter. Do you have to you have to get down a checklist?
Absolutely right? And so they so, and then they go on along
side of a you know, let's say a popular highway in Nebraska or there
is such a thing, and they're you know, waving too, the k
M, the kaysa, swerving and all this stuff. So and you have
to think, right now, law enforcement, they're at the tipping point with
all the other crap that's going on. Okay, all the fun that's going
on. You got a six Z two you're kidding me? A six O
two on Highway eighty nine? Are you kidding? Here's two of them.
Looks like a male clown and a female clown. Oh yeah, he's he
or she is? Yeah, he or she is rolling up in a good
mood for this one. Yeah. The mind to the cop. Yeah,
I with the How do you get the big feet into the back of the
car? I mean, what's it's just, it's it's it's a multitude of
sins. Here he come out and he goes. You know, I've had
it with the clowns, man, I've had it with the clowns. A
clown beat down. There you go, thinking the big shoe poopy. Nice
Steve, you got to get your hand back on the controls here and bring
a span of ship, please ship. So Steve, what are you You're
gonna talk about the big black triangles tonight? Right? Well, yes,
or at least some of them. Okay, Now we're growing going back to
August twenty first, two thousand and four. It's a it's we're about twenty
thirty miles south of Chicago. It's beautiful, clear summer night. Uh,
a lot of people are getting out of an Azzy Osbourne concert. So there's
hundreds of people out. Now there's a legitimate set of witnesses for triangle aircraft.
It's one of them. Exactly where I'm going right here. Yes,
nobody's been abusing. Is there any songs about bats at this Azzy Osbourne concert
that would have influenced them in any way to what they were going to see?
And you know, somewhere in the chain of command in the bureaucracy,
you know, someone had to fly it over the Osbourne because this is we
got perfect cover. You know, we got a landed that baby in a
parking one. When do you get thirty thousand witnesses, you know, when
they just happen to be at an AUSSI const Fortunately, hundreds of the witnesses
are you know, everyday ordinary people just out there in the backyards and uh,
and they haven't to experience the Osbourne h experience experience. Say we'll call
it what it is. It's a phenomenon. Call it what No I was
gonna say, call it what it is a phenomena, the Osbourne phenomenon.
Go on, please now overhead. They look up and they see three lights,
three reddish orange lights. Uh, information passing slowly overhead. Uh.
It's doesn't look like any conventional aircraft. It doesn't make any noise. Uh.
The lights are spaced like a triangle, and it's going from west to
east across the night sky. Uh. The lights were brighter than stars.
Uh. This certainly wasn't you know. Afterwards you get the oh it was
flares. Somebody you know, set up balloons and flares. It was nothing,
nothing like that. These these uh lights were perfectly spaced. Uh.
They um, they went over several different suburbs. Was tenderly parked, was
the the place where it was first spotted, and all these people are outside.
They saw a patrol car come by. They stopped him and he said
he couldn't stop to talk because the switchboard has lit up, the nine one
one switchboard with all kinds of people calling in about these strange craft moving overhead
or well or whatever. I mean, you can't they can't see any detail.
It's blocking out stars behind it. And you know that's the key that
that is a key statement that I've been using because we know my fascination with
the triangle aircraft. This is now becoming the blocking out of stars for people
to get. That tells me a lot, tells me how close the aircraft
must be over the surface. So that adds a lot of importance to this
silent business. Gives you an ability to see the size. It also tells
you that you're not gonna have a lot of other phenomenon because there's not clouds.
So the aircraft is flying on a clear night, so you're going to
have a good chance of seeing it. And how fast was it going?
Uh, it's impossible to tell because now later on Now this is actually featured
on an episode of u UFO Hunters. You guys remember, oh my grandfather
there, mister Burne. Yeah, well he uh, I didn't watched that
many shows when it was originally on, but man, I really miss it
now that it's gone. Yeah, Bill burn And they did a really uh
uh. Their first episode of the second season covered this, and there was
a gentleman, uh the local new phone guy from Illinois, Sam Moranto.
He interviewed about hunt about one hundred witnesses, over one hundred witnesses. He
got a hold of twenty five different videotapes of people of taping this from different
angles, different suburbs. Wow, and so yeah, that's really amazing.
So they were able to take that, and I guess there was there was
also at one point they could see, oh, by the way, later
a small red light like a star followed exactly the same trajectory that it went
through. This last deciding of this triangle or whatever it was, was about
thirty minutes. So I was going to say, how long was it an
in view? But how how had it moved in that thirty minutes? Didn't
go? Was it floating or was it streaking across this? Definitely floating.
And one of the comments on when you listen to the episode and hear the
comments, uh, they talk about how slow it's going, you know,
even even slower than normally when you see how helicopter go overhead. It was
moving even faster than that. And of course if it's a helicopter, you're
gonna there's no way you're not going to hear the noise. Let me just
throw a question to Cobra. Okay, right, I've heard of these things
that are actually blimps. Right, While there are a combination like a hybrid
aircraft. There are a combination of rigid structure like the dirigible, and there
was an aircraft that was rumored Sweetman put this out, came up on in
fact that this came up on Sunday Night Show, famous military writer, famous
military writer, and he talked about a persistent reconnaissance aircraft that could with very
little energy, spent a lot of time very quietly, very silently over there.
So there was a combination of both thrusting an augmentation of moving it as
well as using some kind of a basically quotes balloon blimp type sourcing in there.
The thing that's changed since a lot of these early reports of the silent,
large massive aircraft moving is that some of these now will go to great
high speed and to part the area, so they cruise around and move,
which is what's leveled out to my theory that we're talking about possibly two aircraft
in addition to the B two that have this triangle shape. One is a
conventionally powered aircraft that replaced the SR seventy one in its means to do certain
kinds of reconnaissance and strike ISR type work. Intel surveillance of reconnaissance work so
that other aircraft can come in and they know what the targets are, right,
And I believe what is now coming out is the something with a new
power source, most likely a new type system. This is what has been
theorized. Is what allows it to have this incredible power near silent produced,
the kind of power that's necessary for it to be able to hover and then
blitz out at high speed, So like a miniature nuclear react right, yeah,
and that's not you know, that's not like completely ground breaking. We
have had this, uh you know, this new aircraft kind of thing in
the background. I just want them flying around? Did you just want to
fly around? Literally? That's how a lot to do with it, right
if they crashed? So anyway, so, um, what year was this
again? Switch? Uh? This was two thousand and four, okay,
all right, and the episode where they analyzed the material was about four years
later. Okay, so that was, Um, how many years ago was
that? Approximately eight for the episode, approximately twelve to the event? Okay,
alright? What what I got? Two questions? Number one? What
took its place? Because you know in twelve years something else is out there?
Well what I don't know, if anything has taken its place. But
much like what we talked about earlier, the seedoning with the Age twelve and
the SR seventy one, there were certain advances that were made. Um.
They used to be devices that would fly on the back of the SR seventy
one. They were um hyper speed uh literally they were drones, not in
the sense that we talked about them today, that would launch off the back
of it, so that they would be a decoy so other aircraft would chase
that and it would put and make it and then the SR seventy one could
make its turn, go do its mission and come back in. And this
it was unmanned the thing and it and it needed the speed of the SR
seventy one so that it could use the type of propulsion system that it didn't
actually have a turbine in it. It just used the ramjet principle to get
enough air going through it and then you just basically throw your fuel, ignite
it and it's now uh it propels itself off. UM. I don't know
how successful that system was, but that was part of the program to have
that. So I think you're dealing with a potential family of aircram much like
the B two is going to have now the new aircraft that Northrop. Yeah,
they we talked about how it got its name, and it wasn't an
original name, the Raider that's going to come out. So the to me,
I don't think it's it's been replaced. I think it's a constant refinement
and I think it's in a family of aircraft, in a family of capabilities.
I question too real quick, why then would it have its lights on?
Is there a military base out near there? Switch? There are a
couple of what they call them Mway's military operations areas. Right, that's a
large and geographer and Bill Lawrence contacted that there was a scott Air Force space
because they wanted to find out if they had any kind of nobody they would
speak on this. And they said, well, you know, we get
this this turnover, and there's nobody that can really speak to what happened on
that dated August. Yeah. That the very long answered, which could have
been something No, I'm not getting ready clause and why did you call and
go away? Bump? I know what's that? And I was going to
say, and they they are so used to giving out that, you know,
no, right, don't dare to call us again, but you know
you're a blue book. No, no thanks. They the way Project blue
Bock work. I just mean about the other day was they got thousands of
Project Blue from fifty two to sixty seven the fs IS investigated and thousands of
letters. I thought they got I don't know, a couple thousand a year
or something like that. Thousands, right, and they're still I'll postulate switch,
I need you to roll in, give me the thumbs up or thumbs
down on this. I believe that the reason there isn't any kind of a
blue book going on now is that we are data mining. We're doing all
that with this crowdsourcing with the computers. Because now if it shows up on
Facebook, if it's going into chat rooms, if it's going into blogs,
if people are writing comments on blogs, I believe that's what's being screened.
Much like I do when we fly one of our exercises and I'll check the
sites to see maybe if we triggered something, if we showed ourselves up.
To answer your light question, if it's going to be operating near a spot,
it's going to have to put lights on, unless it's going to be
on a some clandestine range where you know the airspace is a right and normally
when you do that, you have somebody else that's out flying that's looking to
keep the air space clear, like if you make a low level round or
something like that, and you're not going to put the lights right. Okay,
But I've had the theory put out that some of these lights, the
glow that people report is actually part of the propulsion system. That's the that's
the exhaust or that's the heated up air that is being um you know,
basically spewed. Well that or it could be you could a lot of people
have a bad idea, but they think the nuke is throwing some kind No.
Nuke generation tends to be very efficient when you have its spin turbines up.
If you get the spin to go at a very high speed and you're
not depleting your fuel source, now you're able to do things like you can
add or subtract the density of the air to get it to do what you
want it to do. That's what's going to cause friction that will show up
as heat or maybe have a glow right right, Not not radioactivity coming out,
because that wouldn't work very well. All the nuke plans do is that
they eat up to boil the water to make the steam to spind the turbans.
That's just a cheap way of spinning theurbans instead of oil of gas or
something like that. You know we're going to do. We're gonna take a
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It's not quite on the track, Midnight Express. Also on the phone
with us is Switchblade Steve Wood up there in the bowl of flakes about a
quick Michigan. How you doing this, witchy? I am beyond wonderful and
it's great to be here. Okay. Now we have a special segment here
on the show, and what it is. We've been talking about this for
a while and now we're going to be able to do it. Uh.
The top ten classic paranormal movies they want one? Okay, the ones that
really skid the heck out of you. These are classics. These are some
of them are new, some of them are rolled, but we just picked
them for the scare factor. Okay, what do you think one? I
love his list, Okay, I do. If you buy the bit,
you buy the concept. Okay, I love it. Okay. On the
phoney movies, most of which I haven't seen. Two special guests. Okay,
Well it is radio very famous author Gary Olsen calling us down there from
down there in Frederick Burgh, Virginia, right down there in the south on
the on the wrong side of the line, right Gary, Civil War country.
Baby, there you go. Okay, whose side would you have been
on if they fight the way? Well? Also, it's my grandparents came
from a great grandparents came from Europe, but they weren't in the country at
the time. I guess there would be the war the Roses. Okay,
all right, that's yeah, okay. Some people know what that is,
some people don't. Anyway, Gary, you are the author of what's the
name of the bookingam please? The fifteen geniuses behind the lens? How the
top film directors shake the movies we see today? Okay, how about that
one of them is Quentin Tarantino. We're not gonna we don't have time for
that. Okay, it's not too bad classing up this segment, okay,
hopefully because it needs it. Also, on the phone with us is someone
who can come to our aid, our physical and our spiritual aid day one
one, Yes, but none other than you're ready the very famous nurse Kayla,
isn't it us? Hello? Okay, you get your spoon? You
have the spoon with you? Oh? Yes, yeah, we can we
get more message around your neck? Yes, where one of those stuff the
scopes around your neck? Yeah? Yeah, okay, it's a real one.
It's not like it's a it's a real one, A Fisher Price drawing
the image in our mind. It's perfect. Okay. So what we're gonna
do is, Kayla, if you could, we're gonna left and cough please
that's let see one one. We don't want to edit the show. Um.
So, Kayla, you have the top ten movies, you're gonna announce
them. We're gonna have Gary and we'll talk about him. We'll chit chat
about him. How about that? You still at the bid? Still at
the bid? There? J J. Okay, all right, here we
go. So Gary, are you ready? Yeah? I am so anxious
to hear the top ten? And Steve you are ready to correct? I
am focused? Okay, here we go, all right, please nurse Kayla.
Title number ten. Number ten is the blair Witch Project in nine nine.
I saw that, Okay, I thought it was stupid. Um okay,
wow, this is the first movie with's their on camera. Okay,
yeah it was a handheld camera first. I get it. Gary, just
tell us you know what did you think of it? You are the expert.
Well, you know they's something of a genie. They filmed it in
a small town of Maryland called becket Zille, Yes, Maryland, yep,
and uh I to play new trails. As far as what was called we
covered footage, there are several movies that are based on things that happened that
were videotaped and the camera and the people who disappeared or died, and then
the videotape was discovered a year or two years later. Right, but none
of these none of these are real though, right No, But the audience
was led to believe that it was actually a real life, especially the Rich
Rich Project. The audience was believed to that there was actually a true story.
In fact, Heather Donahue, you know, one of the the actresses,
her mother was getting sympathy cards during the whole premieres thing of the project.
I gotta tell you, man, that's a pood really running their pay.
They worked and worked so the strange things, and people who might not
know that, they might have forgotten about it. Based what happens is it's
supposed to be, they have found a camera and in the in the footage
of the camera shows these kids or out camping. They're talking about a local
witch and the witch comes in and kills them all and finally kills the last
person holding the cameras that it did you go. You got it in a
nutshell? Okay, all right. It was very popular at the time.
In fact, Time magazine and Newsweek had it on its cover the week it
came out. And it didn't cost that much money. So whoever made it,
man, they you know, that was like the pot of gold at
the end of the rainbow, really and it started this whole kind of a
way that you it's good and it's bad in a way. You know,
now you can make a successful movie and it doesn't cost you, you know,
fifty two million dollars. You know, I mean that probably if that
costs two million bucks, I'd be I'd be surprised. I bet you fifty
thousand. You can't even buy an Avid editing suite for that guy. That's
amazing, you know, I mean, but it made see it proves it
can be done, which is kind of cool in a way, you know.
But the problem is that you get so many imitators that there's just like
so many crummy ones out there. But people were getting sick got it,
so it must be terrifying in a way. Did you see it near Scala?
I did? Yeah, what did you think did you like ikey things?
Right? Right? Okay? Um? I thought it was good.
Yep, I haven't seen in a while. And didn't they remake one?
They were going and they made it number two? The Witch comes back and
they go camping again. They go to jah something. Yeah, okay,
well, hey, you know, why not try to go to uh,
you know, say, I'll check that out. Are they making it or
just being tough? I think they made it and didn't go anywhere, you
know, So okay, they did sort about sort of about reality and quotes
reality TV show like that or at least a basically forget what it was called.
But they did the same kind of thing where every week they had to,
you know, figure out some way to find this camera all these creatures
that right. Yeah. The one movie I saw that was kind of cool
is um? Who did that? Is um? The movie about clover Field?
Did you see that? Did you see that movie they wanny? Did
you see that, Steve? Or I didn't? I saw a Paranormal Activity
is the only one like that I ever off, which wasn't too bad,
Kayle. Did you see the clover Field the one about the big dinosaur?
Yeah? I never showed it, right, yeah, it never showed.
It showed it at the very end, you know, but that's what it
was. These kids are at a potty and the camera's going the entire time.
You know. First time you watch it say, man, this is
terrible. But you watch the second time and it's kind of cool in a
way. You know, you kind of get it, you know, and
then you see them once or at the very end, and it's and it's
coming down to get the camera and that's it, you know, so kind
of cool. That made a lot of money. You know, people enjoyed.
It was entertaining film them ahead. I tell you two things about this.
So you may mentioned about the house. Cheap it was and made a
lot of money. So it holds a Guinness record for what's called the best
box office ratio. Wow they one dollar they spent they made eleven thousand dollars.
Yeah, baby, Okay, that's how to do it for them.
You know, that's good. That's good to you know, just to break
down that's a good metric. On the other hand, yeah, but on
the other hand, it was lousy deer hunting up in that section of Maryland.
One of the film was released because all these people went up there with
the video cameras to look for the play of which, yes, and I
had this current shoot because all these people wandering around the woods. Okay,
well, you know, I'm sure the das were appreciative, right of that,
Kayla, nurse, Kayla please? Film number nine. Film number nine
is Sorry the Others in two thousand Others the Others. One of the scariest
movies there is, If you Davy, You're gonna get scared, Gary,
what do you think of it? Yeah, awesome movie. It's like Jacob's
Ladder. It's I don't want to tell the end of me because it's gonna
a unique twist. But you know, it's one of these coming back from
the dead type of thing. Yeah, it's about ghosts. It's about ghosts.
Yeah. And Nicole Kidman, she was right at this happened right after
World War Two. She goes in one of those Channel islands, Jersey Islands.
Ye, and she's way for her husband to return back from the battlefield.
Right. And the two kids they have the strange disease where they can't
get any sunlight. Okay, well, they draw all the curtains and everything,
and the waiting, waiting, and then and then Nicole says, Okay,
I can't handle these kids myself. I get to invite three people over
to take care of the house and the kids. Yes, yes, And
that's when things started going really how you want right right? Yeah, And
we can't do the spoiler alert because you know, we don't want to give
away the ending. But it's um it's a really really well done, very
well scary movie. And and when the when it hits you, if you
haven't seen it, when you hit what's really going on? It really does
you say, Wow, that is cool and cool in a scary way,
you know. And she's good in it. She's not good in every what's
through Her percentage of screen time on that movie isn't like in the mid nineties
or something. In almost several of the time. Yeah, she's which is
interesting with them, you know. With the ending. So did you see
that nursecala Um? I did a long time. I can't remember it,
right, Okay, you're probably like two years old. How about you,
Steve, She's locking all the doors and it was good, very effective surprise
ending. Yeah. Yeah, And like I said, she can prove every
once in a while that she's like a real actress. You know, not
a celebrity. You know she was married to that mudget did Tom Cruise for
a while, which is paranormal in itself. She's living large with what's his
face? He's about three interest shorter than she is. But well, Tom
was the head of the Lollipop killed, wasn't he? There? You go?
Okay, Switchy obviously doesn't like Tom Cruise. Please next film, nar
please, nurse, I tell you more? Two more, two more things
about Okay Kitman. During rehearsals, she said, I get you get out
of this movie. I'm having a nightmare. It's just going through rehearsal.
Her husband, Tom Cruise at the time, who was one of the producers,
said come on, you gotta stay with it, so she did.
But this was the last picture that they were like together as a team.
You're an actress. Yes. When they got a divorce right after this,
Wow, really wow? What happened to those kids? Um please, nurse
Kala. Next film title number eight is The Almen. Okay, now that's
a way that was a while ago, and um lege Remick was in one
of the best actresses in Hollywood. Also not bad to look at and it's
just a scary movie, because if I'm right, it's it's a it wasn't
it the first movie where the kid is possessed? They're gary, They usually
didn't do that man, nineteen seventy Sex. You're right, that's pretty much
the originator, Devil and the Kid. Right. There was an unwritten rule
like in Hollywood that you didn't make kids killers. You didn't make them,
you don't you don't have kids die on screen and that kind of stuff,
you know, but it broke them old and and that was a scary movie
because all of a sudden, the kids of the enemy, if you know
what I mean. You know, I didn't know there was such a law
about that, but just seen have you seen Sinister? No? Have you?
So? Yeah, I checked out the same thing, same idea,
kids kids against the adults, that type of thing. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, there was that old one, the bad Seed bade yep, right
right, And it was just you know, there was there's there's a unwritten
rule in science fiction that robots shouldn't kill people, okay, and that's been
around for years. And then in two thousand and one, the robot,
the computer kills the two guys on the spaceship. You know, so that
broke that it's unwritten. You know it's unwritten. So um anyway, nurse
remember children of the damn remember that one. Several Yep, same idea.
You know children of the corn. You guys have to so you happen to
know that they can be devil sometime. Absolutely, I wouldn't put pass a
little bit of commentary there from the guests please. Next next movie titled there
Nurse Kayla joining Us tonight number seven. Poltugeist nineteen eighty two. Scary movie.
It's a scary moving You know, it's not a great movie, but
man, it scares you, right, Gary boy, Well, you know
it's a big controversy. Toby Hooper, yes, it who directed a Texas
chainsaw massacre? He just passed away what last year, I believe, And
there was a lot of controversy whether he directed it or the producer, Steven
Spielberg director. Oh okay, and another Spielberg was in the middle of making
et, but he was on the Poltageist set every day. So some some
actors said no, it was Spielberg who was directing it, and others said
to Hooper, and it's got that Spielberg atmospheric. You know, suburban.
It's a very unusual. You know, I wouldn't say unusual, but it
was. You know, I had that Steven Spielberg feel of the family being
haunted by some some outside force that took took the little kid away. Well,
you know, I have to say it, but it has that Spielberg
Advanced film Club look to it, if you know what I mean, you
know, the college Film Club, because it always looks his movies. To
me, technique is too much technique, thank you one one, and none
of it done to get it, none of it done right, you know
what I mean. It's just like throwing technique at at it. All the
stuff he learned in school, which is fine. Hey, listen to the
guys like a billionaire cliches, you know, and he he puts that stuff
in because he believes it's easier for the audience to understand. But I think
that's looking down in the audience in a way, you know, audience and
figure stuff out, especially if it's some kind of paranormal movie. Okay and
the kid is in the TV talking to the kid. I mean, that's
that's brilliant in a way because it's so scary, you know, do you
agree this witchy. Yes, yeah, there are. There's certain elements of
it that were very effective. Others didn't work so well. Right, but
you know the first time you see it, everything seems to work all right.
You can pick afterwards. Man, the TV said parts yep is excellent.
Yep, it really is. It's it's a little Twilight zonish. I
liked it a lot. Oh yeah, um so anyway, so please,
Nurse Kyle, what does it means? It's a German word for ghost,
right right, Nurse Caleb, please? Number six is the fog nineteen eighty
Okay, the fog? What are the two good big reasons you like this
movie? They're Gary? Well besides John Coppenter, who is one of the
originates of poly Halloween and other horror movies. Yes, he was married to
a very shapely actress called Adrian Babur. Really do remember ship yea very shapely
good actress. Words there tracier words, the Gary words of his business.
Um, you've never seen this, Nurse Klea. I'm guessing no, I
mean, yeah, it has just looking it up now, though it has
a good pot. It's you know, when the fun you know, they're
out in some lake somewhere isolated and so on, and when this fog comes,
nasty things happen, which is it's really good a good idea because you
know it can cover over actually what is going on. And you know,
the fog surrounds people they started. If we got him, then they get
chopped up and so on. Um, you know, Gary, didn't they
where you make this movie too? Yes? Yep, yep, for sure,
and under different names too. I know there was the fog, but
there was also the Miss, the Red Miss Tim Miss the Miss goes to
Japan. But Gary, it's it had to be a profitable movie because we
know about it and he didn't have to pay his wife to styr in it.
We're assuming, right, so we saved money there. Yeah, that
was our debut movie. And then the next movie was that She started Him
was Escape from New York. Oh wow. Yeah, also kind of a
cult movie. This movie also had Jamie Lee Curtis. Oh really gentlely,
her mother row the woman who got stabbed in the yeshower in a psycho.
Right. If you want to talk about a good scene, all right,
when you look at that famous shower scene in sy Go, you, as
someone put it, you think you're seeing a woman stabbed. You never see
her being stabbed. No, you know, it's just the knife and the
music, music, blood going down the drain. That's all is. It's
just quick. It's brilliant. Rest ahead. They used hers She's Coco the
black and white because of the consistency. It looks like blood. But it's
not not even read a good product placement, you know, right, next
movie title, Please Nurse Kalea joining us tonight, Thank you. Number five
Rosemary's Baby nineteen sixty eight. These are the classic paranormal horror movies, and
this is one of them. I'm go ahead, Gary please, Yeah.
The expert, Oh it's so weird, or a Roman Polansky remember hand,
Oh yeah, the exile, the Hollywood director. But he envisioned Rosemary as
being either a box of him like Tuesday Weld. Okay for even his wife
Sharon Tate. Yes, but he ended up at the producer said no,
you gotta go with me and Farrell Yeah, hot, sick. Now she's
on Peyton play. She's you know, a world we now thank he's getting
She's married to one of the best singers in history, frank Ye. I
gotta feel Frankie's boys might Frankie's boys might have got to the director and said
that was it William freakin? Was it freaking who directed Plansky? Do you
think that he You think Frankie's boys showed up and said, hey, put
her in the movie. You know what I mean, It's possible. Well,
frank was so upset that he ended up delivering the boards papers in the
middle of the shoot on the set. He didn't want her in the movie.
I'm only kidding, guys, Okay, yeah, he was his objection,
though, I'm curis he didn't want her to be portrayed like that in
the movie, as as a whack job. Yeah right, well who got
the horse's head in her bed the next day? Whoa? You know?
Yeah, but it was it was a rocking host, So that's okay.
But there is a scene in that movie where, um, and I know
you haven't seen this, nearest Kale, have you? No? You didn't,
you'd enjoy those now. Yeah, it's a classic movie, but it's
it's a really well done movie, but it's creepy, Like almost every minute
of it is creepy. And what he does is not that I've been any
big Roman Polanski fan, but he did this scene where she's sitting on the
edge of her bed, okay, and she has just had this I guess
I can say, well, she's had this baby, which is you know,
looks like it's going to be the devil? Is that a good capsule
review of it? And you're looking in her bedroom window, I mean her
her breadroom dual. But he doesn't put the camera all the way over so
you can't see all of her. She's like she's she's you know, doubled
over, like she's throwing up with something, but you can't see it.
And he said, everyone in the audience all leans to the right as if
they can see around the corn, you know. And and you know,
it's it's it's that's kind of cool if you can get an audience to react
like that. But the other thing about the film is it's it's like everything's
normal. It's like this this is evil comes up in in uh you know,
it said, what New York City. Yes, it's everybody's going about
their lives. But yet this underlying current of evil is rising right in the
midst of normal normalcy, right right, and to these people that they are
kind of venous and bystanders in a way, you know, and and they
then they look unlikely you know, where they filmed it, they did,
j J. I'm look, I'm looking reading about Ira Levin the screenplay the
Code of Building where John Lennon lived and a lot of other celebrities. Yeah.
Yeah, and the building itself is creepy, you know, it almost
looks institutional in a way, you know. And it's really a good movie.
But you know, peop appeared to be scared at that. You know,
it's well done. It looks like a building where lobotomy is might be.
So yeah, like an institution in a way, you know, but
very well done, right Gary. I just think that's one of the top
kind of you know, best paranormal movies Hollywood wise. Yeah, really really
scary. Stanley Kubeck, who I devoted chapter in my book, I called
it a favoritable movie of all time. Yeah, and the other thing's got
a real curse about it. One of the actors, Winging Castle, is
convinced because of this movie, Sharon Tate met her ill fate during the Childs
Manson murder. She here's the thing we should we should explain that Sharon Tate
was the wife of Roman Polanski who directed the movie. She was in the
house that the Manson fall was broken by mistake. As it turns out,
they got the wrong house, are the wrong people living in the house,
And they wrote a six or seven people in nineteen sixty eight or nine,
just a real notorious crime and you know, and talk about releasing evil onto
the world. You know, all of a sudden you have Charles Manson and
people and people who had devoted to him and he's just a psychotic you know,
a psychotic killer. Yeah, people consummate cult leader, Yeah, real
seek from in the gang. Yeah, just a bunch of nuts. How
much acid as you know? So anyway, so what next film title?
Please? Number four is Interview with a Vampire in nineteen ninety four. This
is kind of a controversial pick because, um, Brad Pitt is in it,
Tom Cruise is in it, and um, we hate both those guys.
Well, I don't hate Brad Pitt, and I'll tell you why,
and then I'm going to throw it over to Gary. Okay, the reason
I never really cared much for Brad Pitt, but this guy, the guy
having Weinstein, who was you know, attacking all the actresses and stuff and
got in trouble, right, no one, No one stood up to him,
but Brad Pitt. Brad Pitt went to him because he was going with
Gwyneth Paltrow at the time and this guy grabbed her ass or something. Anyone,
He put him against the watch, says, you ever do that again,
I'll kill you, you know, And you know he would any would.
You know, he's not he's not the best actor in the world.
But at least he stood up. You know, he's the only one that
did stand up in that whole bunch out there, so um, you know
so. But anyway, Tom Cruise to me, and that's you know,
it's a controversial pick because I think Gary kind of likes his movies. But
you know, we did that story there a couple of weeks ago about he's
on the aircraft Gary Uss Teddy Roosevelt and filming Top Gun two and before he
landed off the coast. Before he land you know, his people said,
don't look at Tom, don't take any pictures of Tom, don't ask him
any questions, don't talk to him, no autographs, and nothing up to
the point where they said, if you're walking through the corridor and Tom's coming,
the other way, don't brush shoulders with him. And people have told
us they have been on navy ships. I'm gonna ask you squids right that
you know anything in a ship is going to be compacted narrow. It's narrow
and you can't help but brush shoulders and so forth. So who's this guy?
You're not gonna brush shoulders with them. So I don't like him going
to the head. When he's in the head, Well, you know,
they won't let you near anywhere he's not. He's not going to the head
that the sailors an't going in to believe me, he's going to the adam
admiral's head. So anyway, So I never saw the movie. I know
what's her name, Kristin Dunster's in a as a young kid. Now she's
Kristen does and um Anne Rice wrote it. Did you see it? Switch?
Let me ask Gary Ry, did you see what you think of it?
You know, I really did. But I understand in the movie A
Pitt and Cruise a gay No No, I say that, well, I
heard I heard that they were they had tennessee my limited research to say it's
the it's the first gay related film that grows more than one hundred million dollars
in the United States, and the best selling gay movie is The Robin Williams
Bird Cage. But this is a second so you know it has to be
something through it. Oprah Remfrey. She saw the first fifteen minutes in the
movie. She walked out. She said, this is just too glory for
me. So really, yeah, it was not a gory movie. Wasn't
just too scary for her? Maybe she had something heard it was? Did
you see it near Scalaban? Any chance? No? Vampires don't don't you
like vampires? Entrant vampires? And where did you like vampires? I don't
like Tom Cruise, but there was attractive vampires going on. Okay, I
understood the relationship that was taking place between Tom and what's his name? Really?
Yeah? Okay, Well you are a little more rominebo than we are.
I am ok alright, I wear it. Probably I let that freak
flag fly. You go off? Okay, once again, separate times.
Well, let me let me have one more thing just to continue the skate
team. Go ahead and right, We're gonna pick Tom Cruise to play the
Tom Cruise Tom Hanks to play Tom Cruise. Oh really, yes? Yeah,
because you just got off the film Philadelphia. Yeah right, yes,
but Tom Tom Hanks said, I'm sorry, I'm gonna play this new movie
called Forrest Gone. Oh wow. Yeah, well he made the right decision.
So um anyway, um, you said, ris kayey, you don't
like Tom Cruise, Why he's too much of a princess? Wow, there
you go one morning. You need to know the JJ. Yeah he disappoints
me in that category and that whole. Yeah. Yeah, he's a diva
and I mean to the in degree and this whole. And we talked about
it before. You know, if you're gonna do, if you're going to
go onto a navy ship and these are veterans and so on and so forth,
Okay, you don't go on and insult them like that. You sit
there home for Yeah, you arrive in style, You get off a plane,
everyone is chairing. You go have some ice cream with them in the
in the chow hall and say, listen, we'll we're gonna do I drop
you do you drop? You know, We'll try not to get in your
way and and and ground and have a potty at the end of it.
And everyone's happy. But they took the exact opposite way. Don't look at
him and gave him the start treatment, and everyone and no cameras of course,
of phones or when you're around Tom Cruise, but everyone starts tweeting it.
Who's this guy? What's going on here? You know? And and
they just went about it all wrong. Yep. Next film title, Please
Never Scale Us. Number three is The Sixth Sense in nineteen ninety nine.
Okay, a great movie, do you agree, Gable? It's a great
stop me on, that's just I was just it's another one though. Uh,
you didn't know what was really going on until that ending. The twist
was right, one of the most unique twists I've seen the movie in the
first Yeah, M Knight Chamalan did that movie and m and had a guy
in it that I don't like either. I don't like many of these people
in Hollywood. But what's his name is in it? There? I can't
stand Bruce Willis, oh Man, but he's Willis. I don't like Bruce
Willis. I think Bruce Willis because I think he's a princess too. Frankly,
Okay, that's another show. But but he is so good in that
movie because he you know, he's usually in the you know those skyscrape of
movies and stuff die Hut and everything, and what's wrong with those and there's
nothing. If you want to go see an action movie, that's great action
movies. But he downplays his role in there. So he's a psychiatrist,
right, and he just downplays it in a way that it just makes the
ending. When you find out what the punch line as, you just go
wow. And I know people who have gone back and see in that movie,
and I'm taking Gary's time here. I've seen that movie three or four
times and they go back and they count the instances of where the foreshadowing,
as they call him in film school, of the punchline, of the of
the you know, of the boom at the end, you know, and
it's like a perfectly made movie. Gary correct. Yeah, I mean he
never opens the door, the cherry sits in the restaurant with the white,
where the white has already pulled out. When he reaches for the check,
his wife beats them to pay for It's like that, do happen? Yeah,
it's great. Wow, the guests doing commentary again, that must have
been what made the movie a fraud. What the wife picked up the check?
Wow? Okay, but you know that could Yes, you know the
key scene where the kid call goes I see the people. Yeah yeah,
and then the camera goes to Bruce Willis produce. But oh boy, this
you can't give it away. Don't give it away? Ye did you have
to see that Kala I did? Yeah? Yeah, it was a good
movie. Yeah, it really is. It's really effective, you know.
I mean a lot of these scary movies that you know, they just scary,
but that one, Wow, when you'll leave the theater and you're still
thinking about it like the next day and stuff, you know that it's a
good movie and probably the best movie he ever did. And what's his name
is in it? That the little kid's name is? Um he's grown up
now yeah, Kelly Joe Osman, Okay, he's great in it. And
then Donnie Wallberg is in it. And then he lose I read once that
he lost like one hundred pounds to play that pot and he's only in it
for about three or four seconds, uh, you know, ten seconds maybe,
and he just went down to skeleton and bones, you know. And
then obviously then he's in Bienda Brothers and he's actually not bad actor, you
know, So yeah, a really good movie. You haven't seen it,
just just you know, catch it because it's if you like scary movies,
it's a good scary movie. Next, um film title, Please there's Kala.
Number two is The Shining in nineteen eighty. Yeah, you start with
this one. Play a lot of in my book of the chapter Stanley Kubrick
about this movie. It is one the Well it's number two in a horror
movie. So you can't get any better than that. I don't I don't
know where to be in. I could go on for hours about detail in
this movie, but you gotta you know, Um, we're both writers.
You know how intense we are writing a book talking? Are you talking to
me a switch? You? Oh? Three writers? Okay, so we
get three books. You know how intellectually intense are you? You just you
know into the book? That key scene where where Shelley Duvall interrupts Jack while
he's the typing away is one of the most incredible scenes and where he just
ripped right into ours bother me again. Ye all work and all play make
yeah are a dull boy. There's a number of movies that writer's block themed
movies, as a Cohen Brothers movie, right. I can't think of the
tell you know what's her name? With what's her name? And Johnny Depp
movie too? Is that? What's the one? What's the one where she
breaks the writer's legs until he finishes the Oh yeah, oh hissory misery?
Yeah yeah. People have told me, don't see that movie, don't go
see that, so I'm going to take their advice. So the Shining,
this is why I don't like The Shining. You're not going to believe this,
okay, Oh I think, I know. I think Jack Nicholson overacts
like crazy and the Shining. Okay, I think the whole idea coming through
the door is Johnny and that kind of stuff. I think it adds an
edge to it that that sounds weird and in such a movie, but it's
not really real, you know what I mean? Because it's too much Jack
being Jack. Yeah, too much Jackie and Jack exactly. Okay, we're
not talking about Jack Daniels. Okay, we're talking about Jack Nicholson, and
it is too too much of them. And when you see that movie,
I mean that's literally the post. A lot of people say you can't get
too much Jack in that sense, you know, I think a little Jack
the context of the movie, I think I think that was the right amount
of Jack. It was a little over the top Jack, but you know,
I'm with Mac on that one. And the other thing I didn't like
was, of course, like the Witches techology, but if you read the
novel, the thing about the hedge animals, the hedges and kind of you
know, you you see them out of the corner of your eye. They
kind of did it in the TV production that they finally did, But I
was remember saying so disappointed that they change, you know, obviously filmed a
different medium, but they changed some things that were really disappointing. Yeah.
Yeah, in the hedgerows that it's around this hotel, they come to life,
you know, which is kind of strange, but definitely Stephen Kingish,
what were you going to see? One one? This is when Jack being
Jack in a in a scary sense like in The Devil and the Witches of
Eastwick. Yes, okay, I mean you wanted Jack, you know you
wanted Jack. I love that movie. That's a terrible movie. Film MS
of Crane's Beach. It was yeah, yep, absolutely, and scat Man
Cruthers, his character right wasted in the film, right, I mean,
great, great character, and it almost killed them almost, he said later
on, they almost killed me, you know, because they had me doing
you know, Cubrick had him doing the scene three m fifty times walking through
a door or something. I know, but they they pretty much surely they
do something to the character that I don't don't probably everybody's seen it, but
I just couldn't believe it. Here's this phenomenal character, one of Stephen King's
best characters in all his novels, and Cubrick destroys it. Yep. Yeah,
see, I think that the focus is too much on Jack, and
you know, there were scary moments in it, but you know, I
think that that you know, the Jack being Jack coming through the door,
that's the post afar it. You know, everyone got a laugh, but
it's not a place to get a laugh, you know, you're supposed to
be scaring people, you know. So I think it was one I think
this is Kubrick was on his kind of on the on the decline in a
way, even though you know, I've also wrote my dissertation about Stanley Cubrick,
a dissertation two thousand and one. You bet your ass, ye Wow.
Yeah, what do you think I'm stupid? Clockwork, ironge smart smart.
Yeah, Clackwick Orange was was not what it should have been. Oh,
it just wasn't. Barry Lindon's a great movie, even if you want
to sit through four hours what it was really like back then? It's a
great movie. You know, Ryan O'Neill, is that it Who can get
a good performance out of that game? I'll agree with you there too.
It was is captivating the whole thing, it really is. Yeah, yeah,
to the reality of it. And but you know, and then he
went to I don't know what he had and that he didn't do anything for
a long time, and then he did that awful eyes watch. I saw
it for the first time all the way through. Okay, my wife was
in bed, I was up. I can't believe it's on, go ahead,
can't kick me out of the room? Night and and it blew my
mind. Oh I didn't know the ending. Yeah, how old is that
movie? It's like it's too well, I think, so what I know
about you know the deal there? But what do you mean that it takes
him like a half hour to explain the movie too. When they're playing cool
and drinking and stuff. Come on, sometimes you need a boost. No,
you don't, not like that, mister phil School. Okay, So
did you happen to see that nurse scale eyes wide shut with little Tommy Cruise.
Nope, it's pretty good. And there's a scene it know it's not
as awful. There's a scene in it where Tom marked a little and see
it Tom, No, don't, don't. You'll ruin it forever with me
after don't. So there's a scene in a where Tom Cruise he's a doctor
and someone has counted he says forty two times on the movie I'm a doctor.
Because that one has to be convinced that he's a doctor. Okay,
because he doesn't look does you forget he's a doctor and he's married to you
know, his real wife. She's also not a nurse, right right?
And um they smoked a joint together. Yeah, okay. And I've actually
sent the clip to people and have said this is why you never smoked pot
with your wife, okay, because she just comes down on him on every
pausele thing that you know he is might any mistake he has made in twenty
years. When you left the cap off the peanutbot it you know, when
we first get married, that type of thing, and it's a nightmare.
It's a freaking nightmare. So that is really good at it? Okay,
that dynamic is pretty cool to explore. You wouldn't want to be in that
situation. That's why. That's why it's so pathetic. Yeah, it was
just it was just awful, awful, awful and what's your name? And
what's she's not really good in that movie? You know, it's what's your
name? Again? I forget kid? You know, and at the end
the ending is that the last line and that missus Keith Urban. Yeah.
So anyway, so I don't like this guy on the planet tack. You
never know, you never know what other people calling through? What is the
We had number one? That number one? Okay, number one, Here
we go, Number one scariest classic paranormal movie. We have Gary Olsen,
a very famous author, is a guest Switchblade, Steve is on with us.
One one is here, and also Nurse Kayla announcing the top ten classic
paranormal movies. Here is movie number one, The Exorcist. Yeah, okay,
moving, Yeah, that's William freaking um yeah, we do you want
to stop? You know? It was it was filmed at least the exterories.
It were filmed in Georgetown, just right up the pike where I lived,
And every time I passed by those stairs. It's on a main thoroughfare
in Georgetown where the priest falls down, and I just get the willies even
just looking at those stairs. It's just one of those movies you'll never forget.
Course we grew up. We were very very very young growing up.
But it just, I mean, it scared so many people in the audiences.
Audiences were throwing up, they were getting nauseated. Some paramedics had to
go into the audience. It was. It was that much for riveting.
And in the time nineteen seventy three when it was made, there was just
an incredible movie, right it was um you know once again, you know,
because they used to do pr I'm always suspicious when stuff like that happens,
people getting sick and everything. You know, who really saw people getting
sick? You know, And if you're if you have a scary movie out
there and and they're requiring paramedics to come into the audience, you've struck gold,
you know what I mean. When you go see a movie just done
that alone there nurse Kala. Yeah, yes, so you know, and
and and which is fine. You know these people that they're promoting the movie,
and it's a cool way to do it in a way, you know,
But that's a scary movie. That's just some of the scenes and that
are just so so off the wall, you know what I mean. It's
intense. But remember that the film The Haunting, the Original Haunting, Claire
Bloom and Julie Harris. We're going to virtually what's that we were going to
include that in the list. Oh okay, but go ahead. It's it's
a very with with no virtually no special effects, all built on mood.
It is a previous film to see late at night. And I just think
it's much more skillful than a film like The Exorcist. The Exorcists like like
an assault on your senses. But The Haunting is just very well crafted.
Yes you know who directed that? Oh? Oh yes? Uh, Day
the Ears Died still guy? Right, Well, Robert Why. A year
later he directs a movie called Sound of Music. Wow, what a switch
hut. He directed The Day The Day the Earth Staid So with Michael ren
Right. He was the editor of Citizen Kane. Right, so he's really
been in there, right, okay, yeah, oh yeah, um so
um, yeah that I could. I could admit. That's now I think
back on it. You know, I've seen movies like Last House and The
Left and stuff. They're not paranormal. They're just more like splatter of movies,
you know, blood splatter movies, but just the kind of movie that
you sit there and like an alien for instance, okay, when everything you
know, they go to the planet and something happens to the guy, and
then you know they're bad on the ship and everyone's eating dinner and everything's cool,
okay, and then all of a sudden, the creature comes out of
his stomach. That's scary, you know what I mean, that's scary,
and it's scarier than some guy coming at you with a chainsaw frankly, you
know. So those are the classic paranormal movie. Yeah. I don't need
blood in my face to be scared, but that alien stuff was. And
and the fact that the yeah, her first thing movie and she's good in
it. Um, and they made a franchise. How about that ghost Ship?
Yeah cool? Oh yeah, I think it yeah crazy. Yeah,
you know, that kind of stuff is. It's a lot better than a
splatter movie in my mind, you know. So it's dancing and all of
a sudden yeah, bo boom. So listen, there's the top ten classic
paranormal movies. Okay, um, we're going to do sometime in the nephew
to the top ten best UFO movies. You know, people like movies,
we like talking about them. So we have to first give a round of
applause to our special special guests. Nurse Kayla tonight, all right to movies.
What can you prescribe for us? Could you? Is this something you
can do? Yes? Oh wow? You another around the flies? Please
check my blood pleasure. Thank you, Scale, thank you very much for
joining us, and we'll talk to me. Okay, thanks a lot,
and you know we're gonna wrap up the show right now. How about that?
Kids? Okay, okay, Gary, thanks for joining us. Their
GEO is my pleasure as a what's the name of your book again, the
fifteen Geniuses behind the Land. You just look up my name, Gary Olsen
olsc N. You can buy it on Amazon dot com. There you go.
Okay, and you give lectures around the country. Correct, Yeah,
I did a tour of Florida during the winter time. Okay, Well,
four University. Good timing. And yeah, I'm decides to being a little
active the summer. I'm taking a little hiatus from it. Oh wow,
so work, I want to going back in the fall. Okay, all
right, good for you. So you get down a Florida when the weather
gets cold up here? Is that right? Let's take it. I like
that point. Well, come on up now. It's uh the sun will
be out some day. It's raining it it's raining every day and it's in
the fifties. Other than that, it's been splendid. Yeah, thank you
for joining us. There go and we'll talk to you soon. Okay,
thank you. Okay, all right, Garry, I have your book when
you come up here to New England, you can sign it for me.
SiGe, what a big gues we'll do all right? I get a feel
on that meeting will take place on Max Steck. What do you think?
Absolutely good chance of that, and Cobra do a flyover right switch. Thanks
for joining us. We appreciate it. It was great to be here,
to be pointing and so on and so forth. It was a good show.
And we also want to thank Coco for joining us, and also favorite
by a tend of Megan Reagan, So until you here from us next week,
this is Mac for the entire gang, saying be safe, be happy,
and bye bye