On location and driven by Victor. It's Billified the Bill Moran Podcast. Well,
hello and welcome from the Greg Connors man Cave. After a super Bill's
win that we were at Greg, What an afternoon. I was awesome,
unbelievable, fantastic, what a great day. That was a great day.
Danny is joining us. We are in the man Cave. And I don't
know that anybody saw that coming because I think what was the spread of kids.
It didn't move on, which is Vegas. Vegas is way of saying
before the game, these are two even teams because it was two and a
half throughout the week. Yeah, and I didn't think that Bills were going
to cover. Boy did they prove me wrong. Yeah. I think a
lot of people wrong. It was funny because I was putting up stuff yesterday
and I put up a clip from last Monday's show just so you know,
get caught up, and it was you talking about Miami, and I thought,
oh, this is uh, this could be And we thought, I
mean, you had said this would be one of the games that you thought
they lost. Yeah, I mean coming in especially, Miami was so hot.
Their offense was so in sync and they were doing everything right. They
were the hottest offense in the NFL coming into this week, and McDermott put
the clamp down. McDermott said, you know what, in order to in
the AFC, you gotta go through Buffalo. Now, yeah, I'm all
to go through buffet. It took about a quarter to figure it out.
But I told my wife watching the game, I go, so the Bills
go down like it was no big deal. I'm like, ok, that
was a little too easy. Then Miamica it was right. It was threaded
the needle on that. So then Miamica was back down the field, same
thing. I go, it's gonna be one of those games, back back
and forth, fourteen fourteen, and I go, there are times would really
smart defensive coordinates like Belichick would do this. All right, this is just
the first quarters. Just test b We're gonna they're gonna throw their best stuff
out of us, okay, and then we're gonna adjust to that and see
if they can adjust. And but Derbot adjusted because then it was punting the
Bills, putting the ball back, putting again. Buffalo went back down the
field, scored, then they had the fumble and that's when the game started
to unwrap. But why does it feel like with the defense it takes them
a couple series to get going, like every time, and that scares the
shit out of me because they did it against the Raiders. The Raiders went
down and score first series and same thing kind of hear, except the Bills
had already scored yeah against the Raiders. It was four and out, and
then the Raiders score yeah, and then it's only fun if you match match
with them. If you don't, you're like sweating your you know what.
Off Well, a lot of it is that your preparation in the week is
you go into the prep and you have an idea of what you want to
do. And then and that first series, the offense was planning on what
this is what the defense are probably gonna do, and so it's it's like
a dance, right, It's like when you meet someone for the first time,
you kind of do that, you know, you arms laying see what's
going on. Sometimes they get they get in and you kind of you dance
back and forth and then you figured out, okay, this is where they're
going, this is what this is what their keys are going to be,
and then you make the adjustment. The key is making the adjustment right,
right, that's when in McDermot has done that this year. You know,
last year in that Cincinnati game, they did not make the adjustment at all
after that first quarter. Just keep playing seven yards off the line of scrimmage.
But the thing that jumped out me the most about this Bill's Dolphins game
was how the Dolphins defense did not do what they did last year against the
Bills. That was my biggest shock. I thought they were going to play
more in the box, get get the edges, get Josh making quicker decisions,
press them, make sure that they forced Josh to throw everything underneath,
be patient. They didn't do that. They didn't do that, But they
also could be that the offensive lines just a little bit better for us.
I mean, just the last couple of games, I feel like the our
offensive line has been a little bit better. Yeah, Josh wasn't sacked,
he wasn't touched, and he was under dress, yes, but he but
he wasn't touched. No. You know, we were at the game.
I was all over this is that. I like, I hope. So
I'm such a I'm such a pessimist when it comes to the offensive line.
So they've been bad. They've been spotty for so long. Figured that out.
But I gotta tell you, I thought they played really well. They
played well against the Raiders. They played against the Commanders, who had the
most sacks in the NFL going into They had four pass rushers on the front
line on the defensive line, didn't really touch out and dacked them. They
did well in this game. The Dolphins defense isn't that chron, but they
played really well against the Bills last year in the in the offensive line did
well. So now you gotta start believing, right, they're four games into
it, starting a gel. Yeah, I still think Dorfs has got to
use They gotta flip the formations more. They got to give Josh that pre
snap reed, they got the lines pre snap reed. I think if they
can do that more, I think they can help the offensive line. And
Josh, of course, my son reminded me as we were talking about it
in a recap. He goes, that scored forty eight points, where you
shut up, Well, this is the thing is they scored forty eight points.
But even Josh comes out and says, there's more that we can learn
from this. There's it, And I know that sounds like they're kind of
speak, but I also like hearing that because they're not taking their foot off
the gas. I hope is that after every win or every game, win
or lose, they just go back and replay the Jets game. Yeah,
like you were not supposed to lose that game, and like tomorrow morning,
like these guys are getting off on Wednesday. When they walk him throw,
it's like, how did we lose to the freaking Jets? Yeah? That
should be his first thing out of his mouth. Yeah you know, yeah,
yeah, you crushed the Dolphs. We lost the freaking Jets. You
see what appri last night on Sunday Night football, you know, I mean,
And on the flip side, I was surprised McDaniel didn't run the ball
more because I thought that that might be Buffalo is akilling a few runs that
they did those sweets because so they put Rik Kill Torik Kill in the backfield.
They're like, okay, watch this, And then of course was it
Waddle who comes across in motion and they hand the ball off. I'm like,
I told you that's coming. You know, everybody, anybody who goes
in motion, you're gonna have to follow him. And eventually they did,
but I thought they would run more on Buffalo. They didn't. It's almost
like he outsmarted himself, right, Yeah, he was. He's trying to
be too cute for his own That's how That's how Bill Belichick used to beat
Peyton Manning. Just I'm gonna let him use his intelligence. I'll think himself.
Now he did. I hope. I hope the document of Bill.
You could look at me all you want. He's been document. I hope
the Kansas City Chiefs tomorrow morning. You say, how freak did we let
the Jets? Wow? That was something, but it would be pretty bad
if if maybe it's the Taylor Swift effect. Yeah, hey Taylor Swift.
Yeah she's there. I think we heard that, like, uh, what
was that most expensive? And I think was it? There are a lot
of Kelsey jerseys in New York. Oh my god. They had They had
a picture on social media Tallgating and there was like every third person had a
Kelsey jersey on and they were like women between the eighties of twenty and thirty
five. Yeah, oh yeah, well even Stephen coleb So now the late
night shows are back at it this week because the strikes all and he goes,
all right, first thing, was he live already? No, but
they take those shows as if they are live. They take the promos.
He goes, what is how do I get myself a Kelsey? You know
that's kind of funny. So yeah, so let me tell you what an
ex everywhere. By the way, now, let me tell you what an
experience it is to sit next to Greg Connors during a live football game.
We'll get just out of curiosity, what Raggy's jumping up down? And if
a knife? Please? What the fuck? The fun come on? Guy?
Like he's right And I looked out and there's this little girl she's just
staring at I don't even know pretty little girl? Is that the guy from
the commercials? What the fuck? Come on? I was like, I
was dying. That was so funny. It was so funny. But the
passion and and the knowledge, like, I mean, you were saying you
were getting upset, as Danny says, they had wattle and motion that You're
like, well, there's no motion, we got no movement. There's no
movement. We're not gonna everything static. It's static, it's not moving.
Oh yeah, it was good. It was good. I enjoyed it.
The killer part of it is is that even when when like you're at the
game and when you're in the stands and and I mean this was in a
unique game in the sense that because of the environment of all the ramifications of
this game, it's an AFC game, it's the second home game, it's
the AFC East, and we lost to the Jets. I mean, if
the Bills lost the game, there were essentially two down from the Dolphins,
exactly. And so you know, I get so worked up at these games
and we're there and it's so intense, and the crowd is so loud you
can't hear yourself. No, And for a while we thought it was going
to be at tracked me. Yeah, I mean it started. It sure
looked that way. Look, there's anyone got played defense today, a defense
anyone. And there was a point, I think it was in the first
quarter where it was so loud the Dolphins had an I legal procedure point,
yeah, right, and you couldn't hear the person next to you was so
loud. And then you get going and I'm like get into it and there's
you know, people are next to me, and I'm like bumping people.
I hit some I hit Jen. I'm like, I don't know, and
I didn't even know I did it. All of a sudden, I hear
you just hit me, and I didn't. I didn't even hear it.
I was like, you hit me. Oh what, I'm sorry? You
whacked me? Just like ise adrenaline. Baby, I'm in the zone.
I did it, just like I'm like, jump into the seats in front
of us them, high five of them. You know that you crowdsurfing in
the throne? My god? Yeah, like they stuck. It was like,
there's somebody crowdsurfing Dad. Is that Craig Connors Or oh that's Oj.
There's like a seventy five yeldom behind I'm giving a high five. She's like
grabbing her hand like, oh, her husband's like, no, injured by
a personal injury attorney. You can be entitled, but it's it is.
It's a fun environment. Yeah. Yeah, And that game was lively.
Man, I don't know. You know, I heard from a lot of
people who went to the Raiders game that had they not they wished they had
left an hour earlier. He left closer to nine and scooted right in.
I felt like there was no time and you were the one you were the
you were the pilot on the way up. We were. We got in
pretty good coming into the game, better than we did in the home opener
actually, but getting out this game sick, which because a lot too.
We're okay the old rock pile and uh so we got there pretty good this
morning. That was great. We got there good. We had a nice
little towelgate. Went to my buddies over at Southwestern and Abbott, which is
Mayhem. I thought I video that. I tried to video it and I
must know a hit record because and maybe that's a good thing. I don't
know. Is that one of the grass lots? No, it's pro the
bar prohibition. It's oh yeah, so those of you have been to the
Bills games and you're on you're over on the other side. So we're in
a lot too, which is where the field house side is. And it's
like it was right, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It
is absolutely subdued, right, majority white. You're absolutely right, not much
flavor flavor. It's fun. Yeah, it's on and it was very comfortable.
I felt at home. Someone's doing face pantings for kids and we can
we cross over like the threshold into the ad a parking lot man. And
then we get to Abbott Road, and then the tenor of the crowd changes.
The smell of change is oh my god, the I said the walk
over there's so funny because I go, there's a different smell in the air.
And I mean it was potent man. Potent was everywhere by the time.
It was at all time. That makes for the potpourri of of porta
pottiotti and paro so southwestern Abbott there, that was the potpourri of smell.
It was barbecue, porta potti and pop pot It was a big time well
good. But then when you get Western art man bills. But then we
get over to your buddy's tailgate and who is it. Who's the uh,
the insurance guy, Ryan Stang stag Stang's got two tent tent tops with his
name on it. Yeah. And then he's got a DJ, right DJ
that's playing like every hip hop every yeah, and everybody knows all the words.
And I go, yeah, none of that was happening. So all
the beer companies that sponsored the bills all like have tents, right, and
they buy tickets for all their like their vendors and stuff, and they get
and so like they hired DJ's, may have like guys like playing live music
shows, stuff like that. This was just a private business, right stan
Ryan does insurance. And then my buddy Billy Dolan who has the bills Mafia
RV here. I took pictures of that, put up my social he's there,
uh And I connected the two together because they're two fun guys and they
killed it. They were killing It was a very different experience. So Stag
came over and Ryan stay, and you're talking about hurting hands. He and
I slapped five, like five times in a row, and I go one
more time. By the time I was done, I go, I don't
know if I'm gonna be able to hold mits and boxing this week because I
mean my hands still stings from smacking with gonna be on the injury And that
was before the game even started. My animal questionable with a hand stings.
That was before we started tackling each other in the stands. Yeah, during
the first series, yeah, for doubtful, for London and getting bruised boy,
yeah, so many things. It was just a fun day. It
was it. Look, it's always better when they win. Had they won
by two ye, Like I said, their weddings in reverse. You know,
it would have been a little had they won by two, would have
been a little nerve racking, but it would have been still great. This
was even better. You know, you were almost wishing they hung seventy on
on on the Dolphins. Well you know, I mean, look, the
Bills have a long week coming up now, right. I mean, they're
they're going to London. They're they're Jacksonville is already in London. They played
yesterday morning. It almost it almost feels unfair to me, is that that
that they're there? And I don't know that the adjustment. I like the
way McDermott is approaching this with the time change and just kind of you know,
but but still it almost feels unfair. Well, the reason Jacksonville has
been doing this is because they've been angling for a new stadium for a while
and the story is that if hey, if this doesn't work, yeah,
there's always Austin, Texas, there's always this city. That's well. They
want they want to make this a global lead. They want to make it.
They want to put teams in Germany, they want to put teams in
London. The problem is the taxes on the players and everything else. Do
you know the guy who sat next to me, do you know him from
previous games? Okay, he's from London. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
he's from London. Because I said to him, I detected an accent
when you said Canada, I thought, oh, he must be French Canadian.
A lot of times people who learn English out side the United States don't
have our lovely accents, usually have a British this accent, I thought,
this guy, so I said to him, I said, excuse me,
where are you from? He said London? And I said, how how
I go? How invested have you gotten in this sport? Because he knew
everything. He was like you I was sitting between you know, he was
just he was the British version of you. His son was very American.
He had a little more to the bullocks. Bullocks, bullocks, Craig Bullocks.
Yeah, but it was I just it was great all day. I
thought that first pass Gabe Davis. At first somebody stood up in front of
me, so I thought maybe it went off his fingertips. I didn't know
he had caught it because I was still sitting as everybody rose up, and
then I was like, yeah, that was I mean that that set the
tone, right, I mean, Josh was on. It was great to
see that the way that Josh played in the evolution of you know, how
his game has come from that first week to where he is now, right,
I mean first week, we're all like, jeezus, come on,
man, Yeah, he's made good decisions, he's evolved. I look where
they're at right now, right, I mean, fortunately we didn't peek in
week two like we did last year, so it's good to see. I
think the offensive line really is the big surprise for me, right is for
the Bills. The offensive line is a big surprise, and that's gonna go
a long way. They just got to stay healthy now. I mean Tradavious
White going down, oh man, Yeah, we lost our lockdown corner.
Yeah, we don't have one anymore. Christian bed for going down is not
easy either. I mean, you got, you get, now, you
got, Now you're down two clubs. Talk about this Greg because with that
it is it is concerning. You've got what's his name, I always say
his name wrong, Elim. Yeah, hasn't healthy scratch him because he's like
Aaron Maybean. It's like and I can't get on the field. First game.
For four games, he's been a healthy Put the yeah, mister,
put the playbook on the plane for me. What still has it learned it
yet? Apparently? Okay, well what does that mean for us going moving
forward? Who do you have in there? Because you know, is Dame
Jackson hurt too? No? He Beford got hurt. Got he got banged
up today. I don't know. I don't. I didn't hear anything afterwards.
Did you hear anything? So Bedford it was an arm But he's like
day to day right now. Singer. I don't know if it's a stinger
or what. But he didn't return. And then, of course Trey White's
his career, his career. No, I find it hard to believe that
he's just gonna hang it up though now he think I could see him moving
to safety. But I mean there's a lot of money sitting on the table.
There is. But I mean when I say a career, I mean
in terms of his performance. You pay him. You paid him to be
a lockdown corner. He's now had he has a knee injury, and he
now has the achilles. I mean it's all about speed at that position,
and if you can't cover somebody and lock him down on a man and man
the next step is safety and player is gonna he's at the end. I
mean that could be a transition point for for for Tradas, but right now,
I mean today, going into this game on being a healthy Scratch said
a lot to me about where the Bills post game to where McDermott thinks he
is is. I mean, he's there essentially as as a safety valve.
We're what they need him now in terms of depth, and you know he's
not gonna be thrown into the mix. We're gonna see this week against Jacksonville.
I mean, look, Trevor Lawrence is a thrower and he's gonna throw
the ball. And by the way, the last time the Bills played Jacksonville
two years ago, Josh Allen the linebacker became known to be Josh Allen and
the linebacker, and mean, otherwise you know who he was. They played
really well against him and that was one of the worst games the Bills had
played. And when the Bills had played in London last time with the wonderful
quarterback, oh my god, was EJ Manuel He was rarely he used to
say, well he came back. He almost won, Yeah, because that
was my So my sister in law is a huge FSU fan. Her dad
works the Chain Gang. He's been for thirty years. So I'm pretty sure.
And Morgan said to me at the time, She's like, no,
one can't understand why they took him, Like they didn't they trade up to
get him. Yeah. Yeah, so they traded back. Remember they trade
they had eight. They traded with the Rams. Rams took Tavon Austin,
who ended up not doing much. Bills went back to sixteen and ended up
taking him because he was still there. They had a feeling he'd still be
there. But he was the only quarterback taking in the first round. And
when I used to do a show of Potniac, we talked to this guy
named Corey Ward out of out of tallahas who covered Florida. He goes,
yeah, we had no idea why the Bills did that. Yeah, they
were all sitting there scratching her head. But the problem was he came out
early because Jameis Winston was on his heels. Yeah, and he was gonna
lose the starting job if he didn't come out. If he had stayed,
he wouldn't have gotten drafted. That was my sister in law's point was the
same thing, like, no one really understood why this was happening. And
then I was at the game that his parents were at and he came back
and won. Yeah, and then he ran over and gave them the ball,
and it was like this big emotional thing. And I had my son
Jordan with me and I Carol yeah yeah against Carolina, and I think Jordan
was got eleven or something like that. I mean, it was the greatest
thing for him. He got picked six though, I got a called back
for a penalty in that game. Oh yeah, yeah yeah. Because when
I brought that up to my buddy Peter, who's been on their show,
he goes, yeah, but you gotta remember the pick six that got called
back to or else we're not even talking about that game either. Like my
favorite E. G. Manuel story, as I was on a plane from
New York to Miami and uh, I'm sitting on the aisle and this dude
comes in, big tall guys comes insists on the seat next to me,
and I'm like, god, man, that guy looks from there. I
can't play him though, And then I had my bag. My bag has
a Buffalo bills logo on it, and he says me, you go with
Bills fan? He said yeah, and he goes, he goes yeah,
he goes, I played for the Bills and I go, no shit,
I play or played because I played for the Bills. I said, no
shit. Well position, he goes quarterback. I was like, oh,
you're you're sat Lewis. Did you do the snap? And he's like,
this is the Yeah, this is He's like. I was like, this
is the problem with you. How you did the snap? I can't come
up with that, can't come with it. Yeah, Manuel, And then
I was like, oh, what are you doing? A periods up here?
He's doing acc commentating. Yeah. And then he's setting back down to
South Florida And now I was setting down from the Bills Dolphins game. It
was last year actually last year. Just shows you how hard this this sport
is. Now you all first rounders bust. Well, but we we see
what we see and what we remember are the Tom Brady's yep, the Aaron
Rodgers, right, the guys that lasted a long time, the guys the
Montanas, the like in Montana. What did he play nine ten seasons?
Oh? He played from seventy nine No. Seventy nine to ninety five.
Okay, so yeah, it's for fifteen years, so which at the time
was really long, right, and got all the way to uh AFC Championship
game that they lost to the Bills. He was, I mean, he
was in Kansas City for a lot longer than he thought he was. Yeah,
yeah, that was crazy. When he beat he beat the Niners,
the Niners gave the Kansas City the Chiefs beat the piss out of him,
and then Niners one on and won the Super Bowl. You know, but
they're But there are guys you forget about, like Todd Collins. Todd Collins,
who was who was the quarterback post Jim he was the next Collins and
what they call him, You have a gun rack in this back of his
I don't remember that maybe, but he last in the NFL's at back of
quarterback for like fifteen years because he knew the game. He could he could
help the starter. Tyrod Taylor still in the NFL, right he is,
Yeah, the Giants, I think, right, he's the backup for the
Giants. Yeah, okay, and that's crazy. Yeah, I mean,
you could make a good living NFL back. You don't get that hurt,
right, he become great coach like Frank you know, really the backup quarterbacks
supposed to be the de facto offensive coordinator. Yeah right, he's supposed to
caddy for the quarterback. That's why, friend, that's why. Yeah.
Ken Dorsey was on the greatest college football team, my beloved Miami Hurricades in
two thousand and one and two thousand and two one a national championship, came
this close to winning a second one. And he always said he always knew
he was gonna up being a coach. Yeah, that's where he was.
I'm not gonna I mean, he had so many stars he just had to
like flip them the ball, go take off and run with it. You
know. He was like the worst player on that team. Back of quarterback
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she you know the I mean, look, we know that the price of
the tickets where she is and there she is now she's at the game drinking
something red, but the camera will be on her all night and who knows
if I did see, and I don't know if it was like an onion
piece meaning fake or not, but there was a piece that said, uh,
Taylor Swift has been hanging out with Jimmy Garoppolo and uh, there's no
way she's sticking with Kelsey first of all in Vegas. And I'm like,
that would have been that would have gotten out. She's she's really on the
download. Jimmy Garoppolo is maybe the best looking guy is a guy first of
all. So the whole thing about Josh Allen being like Hollywood, So Haley,
I think Haley is a very down earth, Western York good looking brunette.
I think she's right. I think she's beautiful, but you know she
is. She's like Western York good looking. She's not like Hollywood happening,
right, She's a Western New York seven put your paws together exactly. She's
not like, she's not like all the diamond Well, so when when when
Bill, when you and I work together? That came out wrong now that
I think of how I said, well, you know, this is what
I was trying to say to you earlier. Like you but it's my favorite.
I can sit and watch this all day because she is. He wants
to just saying in one second, just one second, don't lose that thought.
It is true. But there is something like, first of all,
Taylor Ship's not hanging out with anybody that is not kidding out. Yeah right,
there's no way because she can't go anywhere. But there is that that
thing where we all do the judge but you know somebody when I say the
Jimmy Garoppolo piece, and I know those guys I don't know. And it
was funny because last night I went to see Kyle Dunnigan at the at the
Comedy Club and he did this bit where he goes, yeah, you know,
I love when guys go yeah, I don't know if he's good looking.
I have no idea. He's like, hang on a second, I
show you a picture of Steve BOUSHEMI and a picture of Brad. You can't
tell. You can't tell. You know. I'm not that way. I'm
not. I'm not like that. I'm not. It was really guy goes
called compared Steve Bushmi to a human cigarette. Okay, so what I was
gonna say is that Garoppolo, he made me the best looking guy. It's
not Taylor Smith type though, because he's too pretty, he's too you think
so well. He also Travis Kelsey. I do not think Travis Kelsey's a
good looking guy. I think he's got a great personality. I think he's
fun. He seems like a good, good guy. I think that you
say good looking, No, that's not I think the whole thing's orchestrated.
I think the whole thing's orchestra because you've seen Kelsey and all these commercials were
talking about. You think he's taping those in the last few weeks, or
he was he taping them in the off seat. This whole thing, I
think it's of cross marketing promotion. They'll go their separate ways. The guys
multiple end is a tight end in the NFL. Even though he's on the
Chiefs, he's still just he was in tight end. That I fear he's
the most proletic tight end. But we'reared all these commercials like two years ago,
when he helped beat the Bills Super Bowl. That's the foundation of why
he's been good for a while. Now. It's like Josh right, I
mean, Josh had the great season two years ago and now he's finally on
the cover Madden this year, right, right, he is a quarterback.
Bailey Steinfeld. I like it. I like her, but you know he's
she's a Western New York, Western New York. No, she's probably a
Western New York ten. All right, what were you gonna say? So
two thousan eight, that's okay. Remember God, the guy from Bush,
Gavin Rossdale, Yes, Gavin Rossdale comes to the radio station for Christmas Stars,
so everyone's taking pictures with them. Took a picture because I think you
may have come to this party. It was because that company has a big
party every year. I thought you might have come. And they always there
and they always invite some guy who's trying to promote a record. And at
that point I think he and Gwin Stefani we're we're like on ice a little
bit. And he had a solo record. Bush really wasn't doing a heck
of a lot, and so he had a solo record. So he went
and he played a little show across the street for some v ips for p
x Y and some big leagues. We're spending money, so if people were
taking pictures with him, and Sandy Waters from p x Y at the time,
made a comment she goes, he's really a beautiful man, like you
know, you know, you know what beauty looks like, and then you
see somebody from Hollywood that's beautiful, and I'm like, you know what,
You're right? He really like there was not a flaw on him. Really.
Oh yeah, I took a picture with him. I know, I
go from one rock star to another, you know, place bro the guy
played some of your did you probably play them better than me? Stop?
Stop? Giving actually felt bad because he was being interviewed on the top forty
station by somebody I don't know that was very familiar with him or his career
really, because it was sort of over more or less at that point.
It was it was dormant. Yeah, okay, dormant. He's a fair
thing. It's in nineteen ninety nine. They were they were a headliner of
Woodstock ninety nine. They were actually if you watched the documentary, they were
the ones that sort of got the crowd to calm down a little bit.
And then I'm watching this and he just looked uncomfortable and one of the questions
and then people are stopping and he just looked like a fish out of water,
and I there is a piece Yeah, that's just it. I don't
want to be that. Yeah, and you don't want to be the Tony
Orlando Sometimes. I think the closest thing I ever saw that was Cheryl crow
coming through. Cheryl Crowe came in and she was not on tour. She
was going maybe she was promoting a country record, yeah, but maybe she
was she was going to Buffalo. I don't know if she was playing a
gig and Buffalo or not, because I'm thinking that she made a stop at
the House of Guitars, because when I interviewed Armand he talked about her coming
in and how impressed she was. He was with the fact that she knew
the guitars by pointing them out Year Vintage who played them one song. She
goes better than the people here that sell them, is what he said.
So but she but the whole point was, to Danny's point, you were
going around doing little showcases to push your record. So you're coming in and
you're Cheryl Crowe, who you dated Eric Clapton, you were married or almost
married to, uh Lance Armstrong and right that song, I'm pretty sure the
song is about Eric. Yeah, yeah, And so you had all that
and now you're sitting in Rochester playing to a bunch of holy radio people.
Oh my god, you know what on the glass comes. I'll tell you
what. You can never think that way because you'll never like that's what you
need to do. And a lot of these people, like I think,
you know who's great at that and still does it? Carry Underwood? Oh
yeah, Carry Underwood plays all these private little shows and does these sorts of
things a lot a lot of these artists too, like you know, so
being a software sales recruiter, these software companies, right, what they'll do
is maybe and maybe you guys do this too. They have these big kickoff
parties, or they have these club trips where if you earn so many,
so much money, you get to go to President's Club, right, And
they have these parties and then they'll fly in look the Google Dolls, or
they'll fly in a Third Eye Blind or some band that's really not on tour
right now, but still a big deal. They got a great rate.
I used to bring in Danny's band, the Vanity Project, you know who
they used to have a standing thing with. Who's the lead singer of,
Oh, Chris Martin, Oh cold Play? Cold Play? I think I
heeart. I know this for a fact. My heart had to deal with
him that he would they would bring him in, he'd play big events for
them. I Come Out is one of the best concerts out there. Yeah,
I've heard that too. They they played one in Seattle. My buddy
went to and he said it was phenomenal, phenomenal at the stadium with the
spots play. So Danny, I watched something okay and it was The Golden
Bachelor. Did I did? Just don't way that guy seventy five. I
watched The Golden Bachelor. He doesn't look it. No, he doesn't.
Is he seventy five? I thought he either way somewhere between seventy two and
seventy five. He was married for forty three years. I'm watching this show,
and I was doing other things. So I would run back in back
and forth and try to watch this, and uh, I got very uncomme
with the show. Why I got uncomfortable because well, at the end were
hot or something. There were some that were very attractive. And Doug sent
me Doug Phelps sent me a thing. Dougment goes Hey, Tuesday, I
got I'm breaking down the show. I go I gotta rewatch the tape.
I'm not ready for this, he goes, Yeah, I'm breaking down the
show. I got all this, you goes. Some of these women had
to be stripped, former strippers. The ones that got rejected, they were
just these like they were like my mom. It was like my mom getting
her heartbroken. You know, yeah, I said in the car on the
way up, I go, yeah, yeah, I go. It's like,
you know, you're late middle to late middle aged aunt who comes out
one it's only rock and roll comes on and she gets on the dance floor
and just kind of shimmy's back and forth like this, hey Dan love this
song. Come, that'll be it. But there were something that looked like
that, and there were one lady that goes, I'm like, I don't
know when they shot it, like they probably brought her into a booth to
talk about what she was thinking at the time. But she's going there her
overdubbing her voice, saying I'm locking in a gaze. I want a rose.
I want She doesn't get one, and you start for whatever reason.
As I said to these guys, I've never I've seen episodes of the Bachelor
and the Bachelorette. I'm not gonna lie. I've seen episodes of it,
I've never watched an entire season, but I've never felt bad when someone got
sent home because they go, they're pretty hot, and you know you put
them them around here, they're getting they're getting something, you're shopping. They're
gonna be fine. They're gonna be fine. There'll be fine. These old
ladies, they go shoot for the moon. This is it it, life's
over. Like this could actually kill them. This can fucking end one of
the shoot for the moon ladies if you missed a land among the rocks and
then he's crying. Is they're crying because he realizes the accept what they put
themselves out there. I know, I know, I understand that, and
there was a couple that yes, but still when you do that, you
forget all that and then your heart because okay, so that's vulnerability. I'm
waiting That is pelack, that onion and this is where I'm waiting to me.
I so many things I want to say, but I say because I
don't want to, but I really want to whatever. So there's but I'm
waiting to see as the show goes on because a lot of times in the
previous like the Bachelor Bachelor, it gets caddy with the women. They kind
of argue amongst each other, or they try to out maneuver one another,
or there's this and I'm not sure because this guy said, and I thought
the same thing. These were all dignified poise. He kept using the term
poised, and I thought, yeah, these are poised mature women in the
commercial that's where I watched it. You know how I've been fighting Hulu.
Do you pick your ad? You want the poison at the Mercury. I
am not. I kept saying, I'm not buying. I'm not signing up
for Hula. I've got too many sub sturches. I'm not doing it.
And then I'm like, where did they trial? Okay, I'll just set
a tiber for next Sunday. I got to turn the trial off. I
got the month's trial. And then I'm thinking, maybe I'm trying to this
over the air antenna thing. And I was trying it at the studio and
I'm not able to get all the channels at the studio when we're in there
from over there, and I'm like, maybe i just go to I've been
doing sling, but sling only gives me, doesn't give me the local channels.
Hulu you can get locale everything. Yeah, I was actually your best
shot as a marketer. I want to ever do Hulu then, because I'm
actually get the locals. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. And I
think YouTube the same thing. Yeah, YouTube does. Yeah, so either
one of those. But I'm not sure about this. So I'm waiting to
see does it get Caddie later on do they start getting into some more of
the drama of it. Uh Sky by the way, he hears something and
this is very bad and very ageless of me. I don't like seeing an
old, old couple making out. I just I'm sorry, I wait,
wait, you need to tell me that ABC doesn't bring in body doubles from
that. There's something about Now, look, I think any kind of at
my point in life, any kind of public explain that's over the top.
I mean a little pack or whatever, you know, you pinch her at
well, okay, I get it, But when it's like full on max,
no, no no, no, no, no, no, no,
I go. And I remember hearing some woman at a bar recently,
like a buddy of mine was like hitting on her or something, and he
went to and she goes, I no, kiss in public, and I
thought, yeah, when you're up a certain I get it. I know
what you're saying. Why why did you do a full on makeout? No?
No, no, no, I yeah. I mean I grew up
in an era where public displays in affection that that stuff like parents, your
you know, your parents look reshunned that. I mean, you don't do
those things. It's not respectable, it's not proper, it'sad form, you
know. And but I'll say today my sons are much more outwardly affectionate and
vulnerable in that regard to others. And I'm not. And I think that
causing pro may be something. Well. But yeah, but I said,
one of my problems, like I don't think you have many, uh but
just one, you have one. But I think like young people, it's
almost expected, right teenage years, do you see that, early twenties at
a certain point, it's almost like a little respect for yourself. You don't
want to look like this slop. Well, the other thing is, you
know, I mean, and for me, I can only speak for myself.
It's embarrassing. It's like if you put yourself out there and you're vulnerable,
and you do that and then all of a sudden, you know you're
not the right one, and then like a week later you're like, what
am I doing? Right? Right? Person's gone, You're like, what
the what the hell was I doing? It's like, you know, at
least have some self, yes, because then by the way, somebody's always
watched watching And and here's the other thing, ring doorbell cameras. No not
just to ring doorbell cameras, but how about the camera that we all around
in And if I saw Greg Connors from Connors and first thinking out and I
trying to get he's got the heat on. That's him and the shoes and
the shirt and the golf pets dog. Is it bad to say? I
got uncomfortable watching the old people making that, and like this guy was like
he gave a first impression. I didn't even know they did this, but
they gave a first impression Rose And I was telling Greg, I go,
this woman he gave it to sang him a song, came out, sat
on a bench next to him and they locked the eyes and she sang,
and I go, I couldn't do that. I would be so uncomfortable because
here's what happens in uncomfortable situations. I started laughing at me too, And
then I'm laughing at this woman that wrote a really beautiful song and sounded great.
She may be she may be a radio personality or whatever. I think
they tell you a little bit about the women. I didn't pay enough attention.
I have to go back and watch the tastes for the Blackwood from eighties.
I would I used to be a VJ. I put the V and
MTV. I wouldn't be so uncomfortable. I mean, if somebody sang to
me, I would feel so awkward. It would be so uncomfortable for me.
Now, if she came out and was a comedian and started ripping on
me, I feel more comfortable because I like making fun of my hair or
me being short or Italian or whatever. I would feel more comfortable with that
than someone's singing me a love song or she gave me a song. I'd
be like, oh, this is so oddy. They'll be a little strange.
It would be weird. Yeah, say that for the third or fourth
time. Like where seventy she'd writing a song for somebody? Oh god,
seventy did write songs? Seventy did? I forgot about that? She wrote
a song that would be freaking uncomfortable. If all of a sudden she sent
you like the song lyrics and shit, it wouldn't make me kind of go,
especially if it sounds like seven Nation Army. Now. I was at
a wedding ones. I was had a wedding ones where the bride sang to
her groom at the altar, up on the altar, and it was one
of these very I'll just call it an arresting moment. In other words,
the entire place got quiet. No one knew how to react because it wasn't
that good. And it was Acapello, and it was in a church,
a big echoe church, and I'm like, love love at least a happy
Gilmore was funny, you know. I sang to my first wife. She
asked me to play the guitar and sing to her at our wedding. Yeah,
I left it though you were long gone at that point. Oh,
this is the reception. You didn't stick around. My voice is horrible.
That's what Tommy walked out too. I can sing, I can sing it.
I sound really good in the shower. It's me. That's okay.
Then, okay, there got Bruno mar back. Every time I see Bruno
Mars. I think, yeah, I noticed that Bruno has been laying low.
He's waiting for my birthday, and I think this is what it is,
that comeback show. He's dropping his show. He's dropping his price down
for him. All right, we'll take a moment. Kansas City is up
at this point as we're taping this over the Jets, and no one's really
surprised. But they're only up by three points. Yeah that's good. I
mean the Jets have good heavy, they've got great defense. They really do.
Is Robert Sala the coach of the Jets, not remind you of Matt
Reese from BTV. They look so alike. If you put like a Cowboys,
I would say Reese is the Western New York first or slide. He's
the Sala seven seven. Don't get mad at me. Western New York tens
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Oh come on, sorry, but my dog gets a rad shotguns riding the
back. That's cool. So I keep seeing, Like you know, if
you go to the New York Post, they're doing live updates and all the
things that are happening with the Jets and in the Chiefs and obviously New York
based paper, but they have pictures that she's at the game and she's at
the game with Ryan Reynolds and his wife played Lively, and I was thinking,
if there's a star I would love to hang out with, Ryan Reynolds
would be the guy. I think Ryan Reynolds is really cool. I loved
him in What I loved him in Deadpool. I loved him in There's a
dumb movie, Just Friends Christmas movie. No, it's not because there's there's
a Christmas just it's just really cute. There's uh no. There's two movies
that I thought were good. One was When he Was Fat, when he
was younger, and then he goes out to Hollywood because just friends. That's
just friends. I think that's just friends, Okay. And then but my
favorite is the one that is based on Who's the Comic? Oh, he
does the whole bit about he's the machine and he went to Russia. But
he was written up in Rolling Stone magazine as the biggest partier in college at
the time. Who is it? That was Luke throwing it up from that
from the Luke very nice. I actually brought another Mike in case Luke wanted
to join us. I do have that available, just to let you know,
Bert, he did. He brought his tour to Uh. It wasnt
no. I was gonna say, it's no longer called unch your innovation field.
Yeah, I think it was still called Frontier at the time. But
he brought a bunch of comics. He was going around doing small baseball stadiums
around the country. So I did an interview with him and we taught the
guy is just conversationally funny. But the movie Van Wilder is based on Bert
Kreisher and the article written about him in Rolling Stone magazine. And I love
that Florida state. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's but that's the movie
Ryan Reynolds was in and I was always like he just I just liked him.
He was just like a likable guy. And then if you get a
chance, you're on Netflix, you're Amazon, which look up Burt Kreisher.
He's really funny. Luke loves him, said, Luke, have you watched
The Machine? Okay, yeah, I haven't watched it either, but I
know it's It just dropped on Netflix, I think within the last week,
but it was like already number one or something. He's the type of comedian
where Luke will be watching him in the mancap. I'll be sitting here at
the island doing work and I can hear it. I stopped working because I'm
laughing yea from listening to him in the background. Yet great storyteller, Yeah,
great, great storyteller, like phenomenal. Do you see Dane Cook,
who's like fifty something just married his like, uh girlfriend, he's like twenty
five or something years. What's wrong with that? Nothing, there's nothing wrong
with it. There's nothing at all. Fifty year old guy, he still
well, he still looks he doesn't look fifty. No, that's not the
point. Dane Cook. He Dane Cook was a big comedian. He's like
the back erect of his time. He was one of the first guys to
really market himself and use social media and he started killing on colleges. Girls
love crazy and I and I hate to say this, but I never really
got his comment right. It just because it wasn't to your typical stand up
No, it's more storytelling type stuff. It was okay, but it didn't
really punch like. And he had some funny stuff. I can't deny that.
And and so you always sound like I always hate people exactly what I'm
doing now. I yeah, because it's not easy, it's funny, and
it's subjective if you some people love it and some people don't. Some people
love Sam Kenniston, some people fu hate his Sam Kenris, right, so
you can't say that. But but this guy just I like that thirteen year
old comic. There's a well, you know, like everything, you're thirteen
year old. I'm a dude. So every time somebody says something, I
go to the thirteen year old model and I laugh. Right, we're at
the town Gate today in Sagument. What somebody said I like those us.
I think it was something I said that you went to me and you just
look at it and he's like, yeah, that's what everyone's like. Okay,
Luke's not here. I'm a fifty three year old dude, but a
thirteen year old mindset. But that that's it. There's a comic who's coming
to a Comedy of the Carlson who was on. I mean, Dane Cook
was a brilliant marketer. He did his whole tour where they follow him around
on HBO, on the Bust and everything, and he took some of his
friends and one of them is Robert Kelly. Robert Kelly's coming to a comedy
at the Carlson. I think either October November, but you can find it
date easily at Carlston Comedy dot com. But I love for Robert Kelly.
I sat with Robert Kelly and we probably did an hour or you know.
Most of the time they want they want the comics in and out. You
know, I've interviewed at radio stations. They go, we don't allow the
comics in unless they they pre screened them at this radio station. Yeah,
I was in Greenville, North Carolina. We have a screening brush that we
don't let just anybody out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, wow, okay,
yeah yeah. I mean, comedy at the Carlson has some phenomenal They
really do. They do a great job. I mean, for for Rochester
based, I mean, and you're looking for I am. I am a
sucker for for a comic. There's nothing for me better than going out and
having a couple of drinks and laughing too. My wife is the opposite.
But if you show her, if you show her a video of animals,
like, you know, doing stupid stuff, she'll crack up. I'm like,
it's like, hey, Mark. I told it, Polito, you
gotta have one of those, like animal knights, like fun animal knights.
My wife show up somebody, he's a tickets. Your wife is a great
person, and love her. She obviously isn't my she No, yeah she's
I didn't know that, but yeah, she just doesn't get into stand up.
She doesn't like it. How can you not love stand up? Like?
I don't know. To me, that is the greatest art on Netflix.
But you want to watch Bill Bird? No, I want to watch
I have even bad comics I think are funny. Yeah, because they're bad.
Yes, then you're just like, yeah, I think it's funny.
There was a kid last night. I hate to say. I think the
kid who opened the show last night I thought was really great. And then
I wish I could remember his name. I think he was supposed to middle.
And then the headliner had brought his own Kyle Dunnan had brought his own
a woman who's gonna middle and for him and a lot of guys do that.
I don't think the club was aware of that. There's another kid who's
really sarcastic, and he's young, and he when I was hosting, he
would always take shots at me and stuff, but he always calls me mister
Moran, and the kid maybe nin whatever. So last time I see him
and I go, hey, man, i heed doing some time and he
goes, oh, I'm gonna do a guest set doing some time. What
the fucking doing calling me out doing some time? I didn't do anything wrong,
Mran, he says to me. At the end, he goes mister
morand he goes nice talking to mister Brandon. I'm like, this kid will
get out of stage and ship all over me, like because I think one
of his jokes thing was, yeah, give it up for Bill Mran hosting
this. He's got a podcast like every other middle aged white guy. Yeah
that's what I'm all right, Okay, But I said to him last night,
I go, you know, I think you'll you'll do well because you
have balls and you have thick skin. Because I think sometimes these competitions that
they do, some people get defeated and they drop out. And you know,
I'll tell you what, it's not always the most talented to make it.
I know some extremely extremely funny guys who just never did anything because they
just did not have the workout, which I always think is or the confidence.
Right, yeah, they did. But they loved drinking after the shows
and sleeping in and they would miss dates and they would you know what I
mean, or they wouldn't show up for meetings with the club, and that,
you know, it's part of the game. It's part of the game.
That's unfortunate, but that is part of it. And you know that.
Yeah, I mean, like when hiring anybody, any yeah, anything
like you know, I mean, when you don't feel like doing it,
the most important thing is to do it, because that's what separates you from
everybody else. Yeah. I thought of you the other day, back to
the conversation we I wish I could remember what number episode no, no,
no, no, what number episode it was? Were you and I did
a one on one and I was thinking about how it was yesterday. It
was just yesterday. This is so funny. I'm like, I got a
really early I hadn't slept great the night before, but I was up really
early, and I sat down and I just started working. I boomed a
whole bunch of social media from throughout the week, just posting it up there.
And there's a certain number of downloads I'm looking for every day. I
set the goal and I'm like, all right, and I don't feel like
doing this. And I did it, and I wanted to go back to
bed, and then I went and I taught boxing and I came back and
I'm like, all right, I'm gonna lay down for an hour because I
was tired. I do that, and then I get up and I go,
I gotta run. I have to run. And I went for a
run, and then to reward myself, I went up hanging out with Damien.
But you gotta remember it. I wasn't going to run, and I
felt so good at Yeah, you got it. I gotta do it.
And hanging out with Damien gives you more material, well, hanging out with
Yeah, it gives you material. It gives you the downtime, it gives
you the relaxation, it gives you that, it gives you the energy,
because it's good to be around people that give you that energy. And he's
always freaking entertaining. He's always entertaining, and there's always a story or two
afterwards, which you never know what you're gonna be able to use to entertain
others like me. That's that's very true too. That's very true too,
well, I did say something. Did you tell him? Mark Anthony said,
hello, I tell him the next time. I didn't bring up with
Mark Anthony thing I didn't bring up. I did say that because he said
to me something about the game, and I said him going to the game
with Mark Anthony. I didn't say that, but then it was I did
ask him a little bit because you know that Rolling Stone article about Jimmy Fallon
was less than favorable and I and there's all these comparisons to when he was
on Saturday Night Live and Amy Poehler and how she knew and she called none
of it made any sense to me. I'm going this feels a little bit
like people are. I mean, I believe this. If you're looking for
it, you're gonna find it. Yeah, right, if you can almost
to the point you can fabricate it, or you can make a case that
this could be. But I saw I just said how's he doing? And
he goes it was a little rough, he said, but he's going back,
you know, as you said it a little while ago, Danny,
that the shows are coming back because the writer strike is over. But I
felt terrible for that guy, because I don't believe a lot of that.
Yeah, a lot of it's embellished. I think a lot of it's a
lot of its anger, you know, and people like put their lives on
the line. It's not going well, so everything rolls downhill for everybody.
So now someone's gonna give you a microphone. Nobody will nobody would speak on
record, which I think is a bullshit. If you're gonna put your name
on it, put your name on. Not that I'm not saying that they're
lying, no field, but put your name on. Well, I'm not
gonna there's probably some things that go on. I think sometimes people who are
in this business can get kind of nasty each others. What's actually dogs Then
they are making fun of Jimmy fallon the bullshit. Here's the thing that I
love. He's an easy target, yes, and you know, for one
way to get attention for people is to take shots at other people. That
garner attention. And for me, I looked at it is that if you
want to find something, you can find it. If you want to find
shit about Greg Connords, you can find it, someone will give it to
it, or you can fabricate. If you want to find shit about Bill
Moray, look, you can make it up there. It's out there,
and so it's all matter what your goal is. And Jimmy is I mean,
he is a national celebrity and international celebrity, and you know when he
comes into roster, it's like Tylor Swift coming in. I mean, he
gets people flock wherever he is just to see him. I've never seen I
think I told you about, you know, being almost embarrassed as I went
down to Iron Smoke and they had taken our mutual friend's car down. They
were driving the Jimmy and Jimmy hangs out. This is what a bad dude
does. A bad guy hangs out with all his friends from high school,
like the guys he grew up with. That that's who's in his really inner
circle. And so they were taking them down to Iron Smoke, and Iron
Smoke had locked the doors because they didn't want to run. And you know,
and that's what makes him a bad guy is the fact that they locked
the doors for him. Well, they locked the doors after a certain I
think they had hit capacity, and then they locked the doors because you just
didn't want to deal with the issues. Some people are banging on it and
one guy is out there screaming. But I know Jimmy Man, I know
he's in there, and I went, look at this other guy, Bill
March. Shit, I go Bill, Bill ranch It. I don't want
to be associated with this at all. Bill Miranchu pulled Bull meranch It.
Bill Murran wouldn't be Bill Mercy exactly. So I was like, but your
to your point. Yeah, he is a huge celebrity. Yeah, a
huge celebrity, and people want to take a little shout out. Well,
I feel bad for him in the sense that you know, he can't breathe
or do anything without being criticized potentially or ridicule period. And I mean I
don't care what it is. And when things are bad around him, then
people are looking to do that because they they're looking, they're using that to
gain an advantage in whatever relationship or whatever they can with him. And that's
what's unfortunate. So whenever I hear about whenever I hear bad shit about other
people, I don't think about for me. I don't think about when they
say something bad about Dan, I don't think bad about you. I think
when that person says it, he says more about them than about these yea
and so it's like, why are they You know, my dad would always
tell me, you know, when somebody says something, it's what they're saying
is important, but who's saying it and why they're saying it? Right?
Even more, Yeah, I think that it's I wonder if it's harder now
because I agree with that statement wholeheartedly. But so much bad stuff can come
at people now so quickly through social media, especially the more well known right
that article from Rolling Stone. I didn't go buy it, and I didn't
go I didn't seek. It was right in my x feed right there,
right so I can see it, and it was and then of course people
would text me to go, who who's good a dick? It's like,
I don't know, I don't know, I have no idea. I've I've
had three words with the guy, but the yeah, And so I think
that's the thing. But it's also very easy to tear anybody down. Say
shitty thing about your teacher, say shitty thing about your lawyer. I'll say
this about I'll say he's the only late night host who wasn't on a flight
manifest to uh Sin Island? What is it? Epstein Island? Are Oh
yeah, Kimmel and Colbert really Oh yeah, Oh, I don't like no
one like about Kimmel. I always liked him. Yeah, that was like,
you know, that goes back to like my dad, you know,
my family. It's always like, you know, treat others you want to
be treated, period I don't care who you are, what you're doing.
Just be kind, you know. I say to the boys all the time,
just be pulit and respectful with everybody all times periods. Yes, I
don't care if they've got issues that and they're giving you shit, how you
respond to that influences who you are as a person. So you know,
I don't know Jimmy Kimmel, I don't know any of those guys, but
how they respond to these things to me is what speaks on who's are as
a person and who are his crew? I mean, you know, his
wife, his family, how does he treat them? That's who it?
That's his wife is a producer who's co owns a production company with Drew Barrymore.
Oh, I don't even though he was married. Yeah, okay,
she's a little girl. She's like ten fifteen years older than is true.
She's older unlike Dane Cook, who married somebody. What and what is wrong
with that? Nothing? Nothing, nothing nothing. He's got energy that needs
me matched by his partner. Yeah. Yeah, See, here's the thing.
It's like, I was all as I'm watching The Golden Bachelors. So
once I brought that up earlier, I was thinking to myself, what would
be my if I were to go out and get on a dating app and
I think they give you, don't they have a day? Yeah, okay,
I don't give me. I don't anymore. I'm off it. Well
you should be, So I'm going I could go thirty eight as my lowest
and sixty as my highest. But even that creeps me out. I know,
I know, I know, I hear you all. I hear you
all. But I'm thinking because beyond that, I don't know what I would
have in common with anybody. Thirty eight is I feel like you're going.
I mean, that's like younger than my brother, and my brother's almost decade
younger than me, so that seems like too much. Maybe forty five to
sixty really, Yeah, I just I'd like somebody I can that I can
make a reference and they're gonna get it. I can have a conversation,
I don't know that almost to your point of public displays of affection just warrant,
right, you know what I mean, those same almost social more age
that we all grew up with, that I could just I just think it
makes it easier. I don't know, yea. And sometimes they look at
young people and I go, they look like somebody that should be dating my
kid. Man, I'd feel like a creep. You know. I'm always
amazed when I meet the guy that comes home with somebody younger, like,
yeah, my dad's dating somebody my age. And I'm like, how the
fuck does that feel? That's awful? That would freak me out. Man,
my old man shows up with some chickens fifty something, I go,
what the fuck happened? Yeah, what's wrong with you? Honey? I
don't know what to say. I'm at a lost words, which doesn't happen
very often. You know. For one of the reasons i'm often is you
know, for me, it's about the age to me becomes irrelevant. It's
about connectivity, right, and it's about so I have in my life met
people that are younger. You know, I'm in my fifties. People in
their late twenties who are have like an old soul like and they're sarcastic.
They have like a similar sense of humor. So you give some of those
references, they get it, so, you know. But then but as
you get older, you know, I'm fifty three, there is a certain
age where your your life goals or ambitions. Yeah, you know, it's
like, I'm at a point people in their twenties want to find somebody that
they can marry and have kids with. I'm usually I have a buddy who
got divorced, right, and he was dating chick who was like twenty five
for a little while, and he goes, yeah, I kind of realized
this wasn't gonna work when I'm talking about buying a boat and she's talking about
paying off for a long owns. Yeah, that's what was. He goes,
I'm looking to try to buy a cabin cruiser and she's and I go
And that's the to me, that's the biggest difference is when you look back
at like you're in your twenties, you're looking you want to get married.
Your goals are getting married and having kids. Yeah, and I'm fifty My
goal is going to the next Bills game, and then my next vacation and
spending time with my kids. Yes, that's my goal. Yeah, and
so you know that's where I think you. Then in the age bracket,
your goals become different and then you have some issues can come up. But
you know, man, the Golden Bachelor, I don't know. I have
to watch now because now that now the Doug is like, I've never watched.
I have watched episodes. I cannot lie. I have seen it,
and I always thought this. I go, these relationships can never work because
it's such a fantasy. When have you helicoptered somebody to a private island full
for a fully k your meal with a wine taste that was second day?
You probably probably no, I want to get a dog. Doug goes,
hey, watch the first episode of the Golden Bachelor, ranked all the women.
I love it. Then I Then he goes, there's a couple that
are just playing nuts. I can see it a mile away from Diva's attention.
Hordes. Good mix. Then he goes, guaranteed a couple of them
are former strippers. I rated them freak. Dug did more work on this
from one to five and made little notes, and then he said we should
put our guesses in sealed envelopes and each week open up to see if we're
right. And I think we should seal the envelopes this week with final three.
Who we think he'll pick all off? First off of first impression,
I'm like, that's too much fucking work. I'm gonna go back and watch.
Yah. I know, I don't know a lot of stuff. I
got stuff. Doug is breaking that down like I rake on the dog games
and that. Yeah, and that that's that's thing he does. We'll find
it entertaining. This is funny. We'll take a break. I'd like to
just the differences between men and women? Oh god, can I can?
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Taylor, Because it's all Taylor. She have her own station on iHeart.
Well, let's see, it's gonna be seventeen to five. The jets must
have got a safety yeah, and uh Taylor. I guess Travis Kelsey spent
the night. According to The New York Post, he's like, photograph,
you can't go anywhere. You can't go anywhere, photograph leaving her apartment last
night. Can you imagine she lives in New York. I'm sure she's probably
got at anything she wants. So can you imagine living a life where everything
you do somebody's following you. It's a document, right, the Royal family.
You'll be there in London next next week. No, seriously, my
father goes. I was. It was in the nineties when Princess DI died.
My father, my father. You can't even take a shit if you
these people without somebody finding out. Yeah, and he was serious. He
wasn't trying to make a chest like this is all these people, you know
they're watched forever. So do you guys have like three six? Do you
have three sixty for your kids? Uh? I call it find your kids,
find your phone. I call find my kids. But you can see,
you can see how fast they drive, if you can see everything with
that, I do not have it for I mean one guy's twenty three when
guy's twenty one, even more so to have it I guess probably I don't
have it for my kids. I don't even know my ex does because she
wants me, you know. That's and I'm like okay with that. So
part of the between men and women is I hope that I've taught my boys
to make the right decisions to do the right thing. I'm watching, but
I'm not watching. I've got so many people who know them that I'll find
out right and it'll come. So it was always my thing too, was
it was more along those lines like, you know, if it's bad,
I'm gonna find out anyway, and I'd like to let you kind of.
And I feel like you're always being watched either because I want you to be
authentically you. But you know, I can't imagine being a Taylor Swift or
Kelsey now right, I mean I don't. I don't like that from people.
I mean, yeah, I don't do anything like crazy. I'm not
that much fun, despite what I like to think I am. But I
don't do a lot of fun stuff well I mean other than the Bills,
games and some other stuff. But I don't like to be I don't like
that. I don't like people knowing like you went here, So you were.
You were at this location for fifty minutes? What were you doing?
I was doing fucking work. Yeah, you were there for so thirty minutes.
What are you doing? I was eating When I was dating my wife
at the time. This other guy like was interested in her and he kind
of tracked her a little bit and like found out that she was at my
house at one point. Oh yeah, oh yeah, what are you doing
there? Then he calls me up once through Facebook? What And I go
to answer the phone. He hung up and it was just just a pocket
down he had three thirty in the morning, duce bag. How do you
trace her? I don't know. I think like through Instagram or start through
Snapchat or suffer. Yeah, sharing a location on and stuff. Yeah that
shit, that shit freaks me. Or yeah I have the location. The
less social media you have, the better pick your spots with it. And
I'm telling you, people could find everything. Do you have an Apple Watch?
No? Yeah, I've been. I've been tempted, and I every
time I get tempted, I go, sure I need all that. I
would like to see the sleeping in the oxygen Yeah, dance after dance thing.
I actually thought about it very long and hot. Yeah. Yeah,
the fitbit thing, I was like a shit, you know maybe you know,
you just never know, particularly at my age, I think I'm healthy.
But you know what's better actually than a fitbit is an a or ring,
an or ring you put on your index finger. It could tell you
when you're getting sick, It could tell you when you get a cold.
You can tell you like almost everything. It's always better than what I think
the problem is. Yeah, I know what you're thinking, right, right,
the pregnancy thing that stops pregnancy, well yeah, the or ring is
you know, it tells you what you're at, tells you when you're ready,
when you're not ready, right, it gives you your karma, but
keep going down. Yeah, no, it's it's yeah, it's what it's.
But they're expensive, but they're actually like life savers problems. They crack
everything that's I'm just gonna go, right, where does an end you mean?
Well? I mean no, well, is it stored on the DEVI
like their platform or does it get a head out to No? But I
mean even somebody else being having access to it on their platform is something that
I don't really mean that's carry stuff. Yeah, so I've kind of resisted
like going that direction. Yeah, I don't. You know, we've we've
tempted on that because it's not a hip. We've talked about things in the
past about like I'm me and I don't like people getting into me, like
getting into that or having that access or having that information because I'm just me.
Well, and so if it helps me and my my like be healthy,
y okay, maybe, but you know, life is going to happen,
and I don't want to necessarily know about these things. You know,
one of my my partner's family has Luke Garricks in his family, and you
know, we talked about this a couple of years ago with him. It
was like, you know, he could get tested to see if he has
that genetic marker to have. What do you do though, that's the question,
that's the whole point. What do you do about it? So you
had the marker that means that you have a susceptibility for it, Well I
would I would lose my anxiety, I would lose my mind all I would
I would be consumed with thinking about Well that that's where my like weird head
is is. Uh. I think like things like web MD. You know
you're going on there and you used to start to self diagnosed, and you
give you can get yourself very worked up, you're scared. And the other
thing is that sometimes I wonder would you bring Luke Garrig's disease onto yourself?
What? Because that's all you're thinking about. And you know, right now
in my family, I have somebody who is very depressed. They're not able
to move as well as they had been, and there's been surgery and still
things aren't going well, and doesn't want to be seen in public sometimes,
and you know, one doctor, one specialist is saying, I'm seeing some
regression and what's happening? And I go, do you realize that every conversation
is about how this isn't working right? And I go, if the only
thing? So I said, I think when people say think positively, there's
a little bit of bullshit in that because it's impossible. So the question shouldn't
be I think possitively, But how do you think positively? And can you
go up the emotional scale? And I finally said to this person, I
think you have to think about something else. You have to find something in
your life that's going well and try to completely get rid of that I go,
that's the real work in life, because when you do that, I
mean think even in your business, if you start focusing on the things that
aren't you could have nine Yes, I know it sounds like voodoo and it
sounds weird, but no, you could have five things going well, one
thing going bad. You focus on the bad everything affection. You got to
ask the fo You got to ask the right questions. Yes, and when
you ask the right questions, like where your focus goes, your energy flows.
So like if you're asking the right questions, you'll get the answers.
Life will give you the answers if you ask the questions. You just got
to ask the right questions. But the thing is, like we get ourselves
all worked out. And so I had talked to it. Well I should
just say it was my mom and she was very upset. Yeah, I
didn't notice. I couldn't tell Mark I love her, so I was trying
to. So I went for this was yesterday. I went for a run,
and I back, I go, you know what, I'm gonna call
her because as I'm running, I go, don't even realize, Like we
get so caught up in the bullshit, right, but every day we get
up. Sun goes up. Yeah, moon goes up, Earth spins,
it goes around the Sun, and we have nothing to do with it.
There's some intelligence. You want to call it God, maybe you don't want
to call it God, whatever it is, there's some intelligence that's making all
this happen that has nothing to do with you. You could be a really
shitty human being. But if you cut yourself, your body on its own
intelligence knows how to heal itself. Right. So you've got all these things
that are good, So why are you focusing so much on the shit?
Just stop? And I'm like, I gotta call her and tell her this.
And I don't want to be you know, certainly you don't want to
talk down to your parent. I hope she didn't take it that way.
I was just like, yeah, I think you got to find something else
to think about. Well that I mean in life. That's that's what happens
when you're talking about you want to find something shitty about Jimmy Kimway, you'll
find it, right, So if you want to find something good about Jimmy
Kimway, you'll find it. It's what your goal is. What is your
goal? If your goal is to be positive. If your goal is to
be successful, is your goal is to do something, you can find that
path. Yes. And I wake up every morning and we talked, you
know, I have this thing about in my life. It's when I got
to a certain age, it was like I had to find my core happiness.
What makes me happy independent of someone else or something else. Yeah,
yeah, yes, unconditionally, unconditional, So my happiness is not contingent upon
something or someone. Yeah. And I was in my forties when I when
I was like, you know what this is. I can't live my life
because I had so many ups and downs. I mean emotionally, I was
so high and then so low based on how others reacted to me, how
things went in my business, how life was going, how my mom responded,
how my sister, how my brother, how my kids and my wife.
And I was just emotional. I was so up and down. And
I was like like I gotta get balanced. I gotta get to a base
core. And then it was like, okay, what is is What is
that core in my life? What is the base? And once you find
that what is important? You know? For me? I joke in my
kids, you know, for me, it's I get up in the morning
and I work out, and then I have a I have I have a
mint chocolate chip cliff bar in a in a bottle of water, and that's
I'm like happy, Yeah, that is That's the base of my happiness every
day. That's where I start. And then the people in my life and
the things in my life either make me more happy or enhance it happiness or
takes away. And the ship that takes it away, I gotta deal with
it, and then I move on with it, and then I cut it
out and then I keep going forward. And and that's but I gotta focus
on the positive. I gotta focus on the things that are good, because
otherwise it just brings you down. I agree, I also think and the
people in your life can bring you down, Yes they can, And you
gotta you gotta cut it out. You gotta cut it out. You do
because it's so I can't I even the people that are closest to you,
like you know. I mean, I think that one of the things that
I've noticed with you, and I think for everybody, is the one thing
that most people want. I don't know that they always know how to articulate,
is freedom. You want freedom, and I don't mean and then I
don't mean that way. It could be financial freedom, it could be like
emotional freedom. When you have that, when you can just you're in that
zone, there's nothing stopping you your freedom. And that's where I think a
lot of times like that can get misinterpreted by other people. Yeah, thank
yes, And I wasn't. I don't want to say too much because I
certainly but I saw some of that, and I think that there's never an
ill intent behind it. But sometimes we you know, you know, And
for me, when you talk about freedom, you know, and and anybody
who's lost a parent, is that you begin to understand like kind of define
what life is and then what freedom is. And and freedom to me is
living the life that you want, regardless of who is in and who is
out of your life. My father, my mom is a corner someone of
my life. I love her to death. She is a ton of fun,
she's got great energy, she is, she is, She's who I
am is because of her. And my dad was like this strong, stoic,
intellectual guy. Well, my dad, through no fault of his or
no fault of mine, he left. He died. I couldn't control that,
but I couldn't let that control my happiness. I mean I was pissed,
I was angry. I went through all that that was that was like
the worst thing that could ever happen in my life was when my dad passed
away. And then it was after that, coming through that was I had
to learn I was I was wrecked. I was an emotional wrecked, but
I couldn't that can't define who I am, right right, And so I
had to find that happiness. And and I went through that when my father
died, I mean I was out of work too, and like my father's
final memory of me is, yeah, you know, you went to college
and now you're not even working. I mean, that was the lowest point.
I mean, I was even I would say that would be lower than
my first divorce. That's my lowest point. But then you had to like
turn it around. It's like no one's gonna turn around for you, right,
you get you gotta just grab yourself up, you know, and go
and your attitude about it right, looking like this sucks, you know what,
I'm gonna change it. Yeah, I'm gonna do something about it.
And and but but that's a mindset, and you control that nobody else controls
it, but you. I can't control my mom, I can't control my
dad, I can't control my sister. I can only control me and the
and the circumstances that are in my life. And so having a positive,
you know, forward thinking attitude about doing things and doing it today. Don't
put off tomorrow. What you can do today is just do it right and
then have fun doing it. Today was a blast. And I will tell
you, like, I love the fact that you came because I called you
late. My cousin was supposed to come, he canceled because he had other
shit going on. I called you up late and I was like, hey,
you want to go, and you were like yeah. And that to
me is like you're capturing life. You're living in the moment and you're gonna
make the most of the odd I'll tell you, like, you know this
because you you reach out to me. I had a bad week. It's
just a bad weekend, right last weekend whatever for whatever thing, and I
talked about it a little bit and I said it on the podcast. I
questioned my mental health. And I know that it will kind of ricocheted with
some people because even my old man called me, and he doesn't. He
didn't say a lot, and he just said to me at the end,
he goes, keep your chin up. You're really doing it right, you
know, And as much as he can be, I think in his way,
and I appreciated that. And his birthday is on when Tuesday, and
I haven't even sent a card yet, which is wonderful, just wonderful,
which has been really bothering me, to be honest with you. But I
think I'm going to try to go down and see him at some point.
Not that that means anything. They look as a as a dad. Yeah,
two kids. Yeah, a card doesn't mean I mean the card is
great, yes, whatever, but heaven, my kid will calls me up,
yeah all the time, just to talk. Today he called me after
the Bills game. Call your dad a man, just talk. We'll see
that. So talking to Luke, I have an eighteen year old kid.
He says five words, you know, when he says ten, and I'm
like, holy shit, But what a great conversation. I actually really likes
when Luke came on the podcast at one time, you guys stopped in and
we had him on. He was really good. He's actually a very intellectual
yeah, like I got that. It's just a matter any parent who has
a teenage boy. Yeah, the best training to cross examine someone as an
attorney is talking to a teenage boy to extract information for them. Is the
hardest thing you can do, because it's good. Yep, Okay, that's
what you get the answer to call your dad. Call your dad. That's
all he wants. I will call him. But it was, it was.
Yeah. So this weekend I was like, you know what, I'm
not doing that anymore. I'm not I'm not allowing myself to go there.
I've got some changes. I can clearly see. You know, I'm in
a new thing. This is a new venture for me. It's only so
many months old. It's not even a year old yet. And so you're
gonna run into moments then we and you just gotta you know, you gotta
zig zag and this is what's gonna happen. And uh so I was going
to see Kyle. I had a nice friday, I did it, and
then you said that, and I go, you know what, fucking oh
yeah, I would love to go. And then you're like, do the
podcast from here and just put this stuff. It would have made sense had
I put this stuff in my car yesterday and I raced out to get it
when we got back, which would have been as smartest because I was on
my way to do it yesterday after Kyle doun again, I figured, I'll
go to the studio, maybe I'll do a little work. And I had
worked in the morning, and then my car just somehow just went for the
bridge to Mulconners and I hung out there for just a few and then I
didn't even stay that late, but I was like, I was like,
yeah, you know, it happens. It's one of those ones. And
then I go home and I get into the hummus and the raps that they
have them trying to eat healthier, but it's not and it's late, and
it's bad. You know, it's all these things, but that it is.
Uh, it's it's an interesting it's an interesting journey. But the freedom
is the big thing. And I was watching that today with you and I
loved it. But oh, you were in your element. You were having
fun. And the thing was you're along for the ride. You gotta be
along for the ride, and that's it, and no harm. You have
created what you did me included you created fun for everybody there that that all
was possible because of you, and so that alone, to me, I
would say anything else should be thank you and nothing more, so thank you
and checking your mouth. There was even food, food showed up, table
table cloth. You know. So one of my buddies, Tony, Tony
Filetti, you know Tony, he's he's a phenomenal human being. Is He's
like, you know, life is experience and it's all about putting yourself with
people that will give you a positive, fun experience. Period. It's about
experience. There are some people that you handle and you know, they give
you an experience and it's yeah, it's not fun. Who wants that.
I want to be around people that give me fun experience. This is a
fun experience. Well you know who else? It sets out a lot too.
It is Steve Circule. Yeah if Steve has always said that it's about
your attitude. What do you what do you bring into the table? Like
he and I sat down once and I just said, I just want to
pick it. I just want to see and he goes, hey, man,
it's every day you gotta come, you know, And I'm like,
I fucking love that. I just love that, you know, I didn't
mean to get all philosophical and deep there we did, but it's important I
think for people, Well it is. I mean, we all deal with
it every day. Yes, I mean, you know, your business is
a year into it. My business is twenty two years into it. My
last year has sucked. It's been horrible. Yeah, I mean it's it's
been the most challenging year of our business has been this last year twenty twenty
three, really not the first year. The first year was, I want
to say easy. The first year was predictable. This year was not predictable,
which is the most difficult to deal with because how do you respond?
What do you do in decision making? You know, there were challenges that
came from every direction that we could not predict, and then we had responses
from others within the business that you could not predict. That's the hard stuff.
But how do you deal with it? You know, how do you
respond? And and I and you know, I think Tom, Chris and
I uh and my partners are how we respond really defines who we are with
people. Yeah, and that and you know, I I'm I'm of the
position and of the philosophy of that. Try to stay positive and try to
move forward. You know, business is business, life is life. Have
fun doing it and enjoy it. And in the end, as long as
the Bills win, it's a good all right, real quick on that with
the Bills, Where where do we go from here? Now? You got
Trey White out. You had right what's his name? Who hasn't dressed?
What's his name? First pick two years ago? What do I love my
Penn State guys? But damn it, he sucked. What do we do?
You know, what what do we expect going forward? This is a
big win, but that's a big that's a big hurt. Yeah, the
Trey White corner. It reminded me a lot of the Tennessee win last year.
I'm under night Football where Michael Hyde got injured. That will be okay,
Yeah, well not really because the time you had a situation where Trey
White was still out and then later you lost Von Miller. I mean we
still got thirteen games left this season. Yeah, that's not including the playoffs.
And you're your lockdown corner and your other starting corner who was a sixth
round pick the same year. You're number one guy who hasn't played yet.
You know, he went down too. So now what do you do?
Do you trade for somebody like if if you think that this team is that
close to getting it, do you go to a team that's maybe, you
know, struggling a little bit, Like all right, I'll throw you a
first round for your top cornerback and if he goes into free agency next year
he goes into free agency. Or do you go after a guy like let's
say a uh Stefan, Stephon Gilmore, somebody else? Do you go out
and get that all that? Yeah? I mean so I thought he was
gonna say, do we go out and get Stefon Digg's brother, who is
hurt? He was on the I hell for in I hear for the Cowboys.
So I think not yet. So from my perspective on this is like,
look where gonna go from here? Number one, We're going to London
next yes, right, the game is nine thirty East Coast time. It's
two thirty London time. I'll beat at Tauntenham for that. I can't wait.
I'm pumped. You guys are supposed to be there with me. Where
am I going? I'm going to Ireland tomorrow night seven fifty. I'm working
all day jumping on a plane going to Dublin. I'll be in Dublin Tuesday
morning. Tuesday afternoon, I'll be experienced in Dublin the Motherland Bill. And
then Wednesday I'm gonna take you. I'm gonna take a tour bus to to
go Away on the West Coast and see the More's, the Cliffs of More.
And then Thursday, it's going gonna do a Guinness and Jamison tour because
of you. Because I don't drink beer, but I know you don't drink
dark and I don't drink dark, but I'm going to because I'm Irish and
I'm in the Motherland. I gotta do it. Yeah. Uh. And
then Friday morning, flying to London, we're gonna do a tour of Tottenham
Stadium with the Bills, which is the the kind of the footprint for the
Bill's new stadium, which I loved. This is crazy, but I love
seeing the hole in the ground across at it. Right, it's just like
so exciting. Everybody everybody falling today, people behave themselves. Finally they cut
the drug use down time Abbot this week Jesus Christ. Uh, you know.
And so we're gonna do the Tome I I am. I am more
excited. This is goofy. I am as excited, if not more excited
to take a tour of the Tottenham Stadium on Friday afternoon than I am to
be at the game. I didn't know that that's what the staving was based
on. Yeah, it's so Terry went there. In the way that the
stadium, it's a three sixty with the however, and Terry's thing was he
wanted to see when you're in the corners, what is the pitch, what
is it? What is the view of the field and the way that that
it's designed. He loved it, and that's what they want to do it.
Also, what it does it creates the overhang, so with the with
the overhang over top, it then creates the protection for the three hundred level,
the two hundred level, and then the exposure creates the theater of the
snow and potential rain onto the field in the hundred level. So that's why
he picked it. He went there, saw it when they were in London
when they played Jacksonville. Was it five years ago or so? And so
I can't wait to see it. I can't wait. Some of the stadium
part of it that they're doing is and be similar to the Raiders in terms
of suites and club levels. But that's Friday. I'm I'm so pumped about
that. And then Saturday will be on a river Crew dinner cruise on the
Thames with the Bills, and then Sunday is game day. Monday, I
jump on the plane, I come back to Rochter, will come to work
on Tuesday. That's where we're going now, Okay, move forward from there.
I think you gotta see Trevor Lawrences is a solid quarterback right and what
he did in the playoffs last year was phenomenal. So I think the way
the Bill's defensive front has played and the way that they're structured and designed,
it's actually to highlight the strengths of the secondary. My best time as a
secondary is the defensive back was when I had strong ed rushers and I had
a strong defensive front. So we have that right now. So I think
it makes your cornerbacks better than they actually are. So you gotta see where
what do you have? You know what's Jackson Lake, you know what's Bernard
Like, you know Elm He's gonna get a shot next week. He's got
through. We got nobody else left. What's he gonna do? Kenny step
up? Is he gonna perform? Is here gonna be consistency? You go
to that, and then the week after that you then have the Giants,
I mean the Giants quarterback. No is he is he a thrower? They
paid him a lot of money. But you'll be able to see how does
that secondary, how does that front match up to him? If after that
game, if after the Jacksonville game, and then after the Giants game,
the secondary isn't matched up to worry they think you should be, then maybe
you start to make some moves. But then you're look, you're look,
you're in mid October by at that point in time, so and then free
agency. You know, your trade deadline comes up soon. Trade deadline I
think is the end of October, okay, and so that's where you're at
in terms of trade deadline. So then you can see. But I wouldn't
jump quick yet. I would wait to see how these next two weeks go,
to see how they respond and what they do, and then make a
move from there. But give Elam a chance, give some of the defenses.
I mean, look, you had you had Damar Ham went active today,
yes, first first NFL game since he died on the field in Cincinnati.
Unfreaking believable. And it was I don't know about you, but I
got goosebumps when you're on the field. I was like that first out and
the end zone, Yeah, went to the fans, knelt down, head
head, did a prayer. I mean that that was I got goosebumps.
It was a great. It wasn't a phenomenal experience to witness. So you
know, he's back. So it's like we're you know, give them a
chance, let them prove themselves and then from there figure out and look,
one thing I love up Randon being he's always working man. He's always looking
at he's always working, he's always looking where the weaknesses are. Working they
improve this team. The team looks good, but the team can get better.
You got you got von Miller coming off of you know the that what
is it the thirty day or the publist, Well it's the pupulist, but
it was active, but inactive. He has four weeks. He can come
back on right and he can come back next week, I believe, or
is it this week? Come back? We can come back this week to
protest he has to become active. He has to be on the active roster
I think in three weeks. But he can then practice this week, which
is great, so we kind of see where he is. So I you
know, I I I'm not gonna jump at this. I trust him being
in terms of how he's gonna work the roster and look for these guys who
can commit and support that. But I mean, it's exciting, man,
it's great coming off this huge win today. It is very exciting, very
exciting and number one in the AFC East right. Yeah. By the way,
Jacksonville only scored one offensive touchdown today against Atlanta. Oh that feels one.
That feels good. So in Wembley, right, and they're so that's
their home, that's their home away from home. It is what were you
gonna say, they're in London A right? Yeah, I know Jacksonville is
in London this whole week. That's the part that I feel is a little
unfair, but it is one of it is right. Life is in fair,
Bill. We'll have a safe trip to UH to Europe. Yeah.
I hope things go better than uh than anyone would expect. I'll let you
know next tide for Dan Barrello. I'm Bill Moran for Greg Connors. Will see tomorrow