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bTB, wood Fire Pizza and Grill
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comes the weekend. It's Friday,
No Friday's a bad Friday. On Fridays

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and Tuesdays, you can go into
bTB. You can get a large wood

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fired pizza with one topping for ten
bucks. Try to be in that anywhere

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you can't. You know what else? The weekend brings football baby over fifty

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TVs. Whether you're a college fan, a fan of the NFL, or

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a fan of both, btb's got
you covered. You can go in there.

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You can go in there and get
the draft of the month. It's

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roarbox, Vanilla Porter delicious. There's
even a martini of the month, the

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Pumpkin Pie Martini. And get a
shareable spinach artichoked potato skins. Now that's

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creative, that's bTB. They even
have lemon asparagus couscous salad. Trying to

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watch your weight before you get into
thanksgaring. You don't want to look bad

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when you go to Thanksgiving dinner.
I'm just saying that may actually be something

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you want to want to try.
Fill you right up and something that sounds

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so good to me. This month, the PB j. Berger half pound

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burger hallopeno, rape jam, peanut
butter cream, cheese, lettuce, tomato,

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onion served with fries. Uh,
it's only a bTB woodfire pizza and

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grill in the mall at Grease Riche
when your old career gives you lemons throwing

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some ice mix in some vodka colored
A podcast from the Mac of All Trade

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Studio in Fairport and driven by Victor
Chrysler Dots Gee Ram, It's Billified the

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Bill Moran Podcast. Well, hello
and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot

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on. Thanks for telling a friend. That's how we spread the word about

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the pirate ship. A mir our
shot is here. He's a Are you

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an rit student? I dropped out? You dropped out? Okay, good,

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We're gonna get to all this stuff. But I was trying to connect

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to YouTube and I'm an old man
and I couldn't get it. I couldn't

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get this stream to go. I
was connecting our software. I went for

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computer science. I learned I'm a
bad brown. Okay, I'm a bad

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round. A mirror is a comedian
and I saw him for the first time

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this year in the Funniest Person in
Rochester contest, and I was blown away,

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and I went up to you and
I said how old are you?

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And you told me you were twenty
one, and I went, no,

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way, how long have you been
doing comedy? Because your stage presence and

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your set and everything was so well
honed. Thank you, it was really

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well crafted. I was like,
damn, yeah, I mean when you

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drop out, you have a lot
of time on your hands. I just

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stand in front of the mirror until
nine to eleven jokes. But I started

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when I was nineteen, okay,
till end of nineteen all right, yeah,

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but you were still in school and
you were going and doing that stuff

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as well, and all this,
Yeah, Freddy's going to join us.

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So Freddy's going to sit in,
but most of this stuff was going to

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be about you because he doesn't have
to talk. I didn't know Freddy was

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coming in. Come on in,
sit down, have a seat, have

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a seat, sit down, but
don't look at me, Freddy. So,

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uh, what was the plan?
Then? Growing up? You grew

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up in Penfield. I grew up
in Penfield. I was born in Albany,

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but we moved to Penfield and ikay
one what was in Albany? I

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don't remember. Family, probably,
yeah, Okay, my parents parents American

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citizens, were born overseas both both. Yeah, so they so they got

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mutually exclusive Bill, It's true.
It is a very good point. That

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is fair. But I mean born
overseas and then got their American citizen Yeah.

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So yeah, my mom and dad
and my two oldest siblings were born

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in Pakistan. In Pakistan, and
then they moved to Brooklyn, I think

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sometime in the nineties, and my
other sister was born then Albany and I

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was born, and then they settled
here. Okay, se had four siblings,

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you were the youngest. Yeah,
what did your parents do? My

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father? My mom has been stay
at home for pretty much her whole life.

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She went to college for home economics
in Pakistan. I don't know that

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was I don't know that was a
thing. Yeah, they had home economics

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in like eighth grade here, did
you take it? Yeah, but not

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in fifteenth grade home economics. Yeah. So my mom she's been stay at

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home her whole life. But my
dad was a geologist in Pakistan. It

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was a geology, a geologist really. He went to school for geology,

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studying earthquake rocks, the crust of
the earth. I think he said he

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used to he ran a mine.
Okay, all right, I don't know

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what they were mining for. I
don't know what they have, but he'll

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probably know that I think about it. Yeah. Yeah, So then he

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moved here, but he left geology
when he came to America and even going

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to become like a gemologist. What
did he do here? When he came

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here? He started just working really
like like fast food and retail store jobs,

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just to get food on the table
for us and make sure we could

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do things. And then once he
moved to Albany, he got a state

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job. So he works in like
state insurance now. But for a long

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time in my really life, he
was just doing retail like that. How

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hard was it for them to assimilate? So I'm assuming your parents came over

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in the nineties, Yeah right,
yeah, so you know what was it

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hard for them? I mean I
think it was especially for real after nine

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to eleven. Well that I won't
get to that second. But they come

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over in the nineties. We're not
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that point. Yeah, But I
mean I have to think, like,

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you know, I'm born here,
but I can go back a generation or

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two, and it was from Ireland. We know what In Ireland they speak

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primarily English. Yeah, they'll tell
you it's galicy, but only the assholes

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speak really well you know what I'm
saying. So this has to be a

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language barrier, a cultural barrier.
I don't it was. Yeah, I

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don't know too well how it was
for them because I wasn't like I wasn't

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born in the nineties. But I
don't say anything like I meant. It

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was definitely tough for them. Yeah, especially from a language perspective because they

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did learn English before moving here.
But there's still like the accent and slang

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and just you know of language that
you have to understand. Do you speak

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I speak Urdu yeeah, So that's
the primary language over there. Yeah,

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they said about about how about this? How about this? I am so

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dumb? Okay, and my sister
is a doctorate in linguistics. Yeah,

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I am so dumb. I didn't
even know or do was a language.

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I didn't do you hear it?
I never heard of it, all right,

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but yeah, if you speak now
I do. I feel like I've

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gotten worse at it. They make
fun of me my family, They're like,

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you have an American accent? And
I'm like, okay, if I

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made fun of you for having a
shitty English accent, that'd be messed up,

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all right, So Urdu yeah,
okay, I remember like growing up

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because their accent was still really strong, and I kind of it was weird.

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I kind of learned Urdu and English
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and my parents only spoken ur Do
okay, And they would, like I

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remember, they would pronounce Wednesday like
like Venice Day for some reason, well

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because the Woks. Yeah, so
they pronounced it Venice day, and I

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thought that was just like the eighth
day of the week. So in like

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kindergarten, I had a full blown
argument with my teacher of like, your

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calendar is wrong. That's really that's
really good. So then you you so

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most of your life, of your
memories are here. You live Penfield.

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Yeah, okay, so east Side. Now you're twenty one. So you're

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born after nine eleven. I was
born after nine yeah. Yeah, yeah,

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because I have a son your age, yeah, he was after nine

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eleven. Yeah, okay, so
I've only ever lived a post post nine.

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So here you come into the world, and as you say, I'm

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just using your word. You were
a bad brown and rit not being a

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good commuter computer scientist. Talk to
me about what that's like growing up.

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Was there a lot of jokes bullying? My parents would like prep us for

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it. They would prep you for
that, say. They would say,

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like, you know, we're not
saying everybody's like this, but just because

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we've experienced that, people might give
you ship for being brown in school.

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It might not be obvious. It
might not be like, yeah, how

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do you say shit? Nerd do
just out of curiosity. I don't want

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my mom to listen to Okay,
no, I actually have no idea Kory.

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But yeah, so they just they
might not be in your face about

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it, but they will say things. And then they were just saying that

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a prepos for school. I think
it was more from an aspect where they

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understood that kids don't understand the gravity
of nine to eleven, so other kids

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might make jokes to me about it. Yeah, sure, I understanding.

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it's ancient history, you have no
memory of it other than what a textbook

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or someone told you. Yeah.
So an elementary school, I never really

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experienced anything, but in middle school
was when they were like lots of name

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calling and like terrorist references. We
had a for real bomb threat problem at

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our middle school and I got called
down from one of them to the main

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office on top. But so I
get there and soon so there's ah.

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I remember I was sitting in class
and I was a fucking troublemaker, like

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you know you were. I get
sent to the office a lot anyways,

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but I got a call for the
main office instead of our department office,

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which was like a first for me. And I remember going to the main

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office and as soon as I got
in there, it's the nicest they've ever

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treated me. They were like,
we know how this looks. So they're

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like, we just found a note
in the bathroom after you used it,

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so we're just covering our bases.
But the whole time they're like, we

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know how this looks, we know
how the sure nobody wants to be,

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you know, eccuseing the the the
Middle Eastern guy of yeah, yeah,

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yeah, yeah yeah. It was
what they like made me like, right

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to compare the handwriting of the notes
and then and then you and then you

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get in your head about that because
I'm like, well, what if my

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handwriting looks like that handwriting, so
let me change my handwriting. But then

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if I changed my handwriting, it
might look like that. So I was

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just psyching myself out the whole time. How nervous were you I was.

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I don't know why I was so
nervous because I didn't do it. No,

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I understand if but you're suspected.
Yeah, I think it was just

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because I had a history of getting
in trouble. Did you feel like you

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were suspected because you have a different
skin tone or did you feel like you

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were suspected because maybe you were the
last person in the bathroom that they saw

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on a camera or whatever. To
this day, I don't know, but

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I don't like to assume skin tone
because I do like them. Well,

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I hope it really wasn't. Yeah, but I yeah, you know,

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I don't know. I can only
imagine. You know, all our lives,

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right, you get these crystillion memories
that were just crystal clear, and

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that's got to be one for you. Like, I think in a moment,

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you could almost go back to being
there. I remember walking back and

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I saw my buddy going to the
main office and he told me he's like,

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dude, I just I got called
down and I'm so scared, and

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I'm like, do they think you
planted a bomb? And then just walked

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away? So you were leaving the
office, he's going in. I'm like,

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do they think you did it?
Inclusion is a big deal now in

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all these schools and stuff. Did
you feel included as a kid or did

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you? I mean, I have
no idea. It was weird because I

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mean Penfield was a very white school, but we did have a fair amount

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of black students as well, and
like from the urban suburban program as well,

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but there weren't a lot of like
brown students. So I think it

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was in the sense of, like, even in diversity situations where there might

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be diverse groups, I never saw
like people that looked like me specifically.

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Yeah, but yeah, going in
too high school people were nice. So

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how about when in Pakistan you're not
celebrating Christmas? No? No, So

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Smith was when I got paid time
and a half at work, Christmas was

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a good time. Pray, Okay, all right? But I mean so

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as your family Muslim, yeah,
okay, so because I have my brother

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in law is from Somalia. Cool
and his dad was a diplomat and then

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the country fell and then he wound
up being a cab driver. But Mustafa

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is a lawyer, and uh,
I don't it's not practicing because of my

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sister really adopted Christmas and I mean
loves it. Yes, it's great.

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But I remember going to their engagement
party and the Muslim men would go over

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and pray in the corner and everything. And I remember the like the look

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of my mom's because he didn't know. And it's just different. But was

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that hard to as a kid,
you know what I'm saying, Like in

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our world. You're in the Western
world. It's Christian based, but I

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mean, come on, you know
what's really going on, and yet everybody's

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excited about Christmas. You get time
off for Christmas. Not not in your

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world. The movies were good,
Okay, Yeah, we didn't celebrate or

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anything. I'd always forget it's Christmas
and then I'd call people and be like

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want to hang out. You'd be
like, dude, it's Christmas. But

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yeah, we never celebrated or anything
like that. It was just another day

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for us, okay thing. But
the Muslim holidays yeah eat yeah. Two

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a year. One is after Ramadan, right fast for thirty days which is

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it's a thirty day fast. Yeah, not thirty days straight, but like

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morning to night for thirty days in
a row, morning and night. Yeah.

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So basically from dawn to dusk you
cannot eat food, water, anything,

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and then the nighttime you can eat. But then it's weird because you'd

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think you'd gorge every night, but
your stomach when you get hungry, your

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stomach literally shrinks. Yeah, so
you'll be hungry all day and two bites

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of a pizza, right, just
be full. It sucks. You talked

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to most people in the Western world. They bitch about intermittent fasting. Yeah,

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did you imagine going cowards? Yeah? Say, absolutely cowards. So

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you felt included in high school being
different. Did you play sports? No,

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yeah, I sucked at sports.
I was a musician before I was

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a comedian. You're a musician,
Yeah, what did you play? I

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played piano? Okay, I sucked
at everything until middle school, and then

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I found keyboards in middle school and
I fell in love with music, and

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then all the way up until college, I was basically up until I started

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doing comedy, I was doing music. You were doing music. Were you

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in bands and stuff? Yeah?
I was in bands around Rochester, but

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I mainly got into production, so
just like mixing and mastering music for people,

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okay, and then yeah, playing
live piano with like any band I

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could find. It was just fun. Yeah. Did you do anything at

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jazz Fest? Did you go down? I mean, I think that would

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be me. We did comedy at
jazz fat comedy. We did comedy at

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jazz Fest this past year. But
yeah, I'd go to jazz Fest all

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the time, but I hated jazz
Yes, but I mean Jashfest. Dad,

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like JazzFest is cool, but I
just hated It's become like the New

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Orleans Jazz everything's in there. Yeah
yeah, well yeah, you get all

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the white girls thinking they know jazz
because they heard superstition one time. I

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see you under that's true, That's
very true. Uh when did you realize

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then that you were funny my whole
life? Your whole life. I've been

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a comedian my whole life, Bill, Well, you made people, no,

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but I mean I think you recognized
it, right. Yeah. It

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also came from, like I think
when I really started actively, like mentally

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coming up with bits is I'd always
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in middle school, like all the
time. And then after you get like

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ten thrown at you the first time
you heard that, what'd you think?

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That's a lazy joke? When someone
throw it, you thought it was a

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lazy joe. That because that's where
my mindset would be. People said that

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to me because me and my brother
would make brown jokes together all the time.

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My brother's the funniest guy I know, So when people at school would

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make brown jokes to me, I'm
like, that's just a lazy joke.

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Like it's been done. It's hack, right. I didn't know what hack

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meant at the time, but now
so I remember I started trying to come

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up with better bomb jokes than they
could. So as soon as the situation

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arised where I knew they would say
something, I would say something better.

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All right, let's take a moment
here, and when we come back,

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I want to hear one of your
better bomb jokes. But first, Cobblestone

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definitely Cobblestone on Main. They have
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he was born after nine to eleven
post nine eleven. It is a great

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joke about nine to eleven, but
uh, I want to know the jokes.

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When kids would make bomb jokes toward
you in middle school, you said

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that was very hack, and you
would you would upstage them. So give

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me an example of one of the
jokes that you would do to upstate these

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hacks that you went to school with. Oh Man, even just like whenever

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an alarm would go off in school, I go, my bad. Just

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simple stuff like that. But just
because that way, people would stop making

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the jokes to me and it felt
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It's interesting how humor it can be
used to diffuse the bombs, so

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to speak, right, I mean
really, because it's tough, and I

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think a lot of people use humor
as a as a great escape. But

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it's also it's such a great tool
when you know how to use it and

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you do it well and a lot
of it. If you're self deprecating with

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it, I think that makes you
almost more acceptable from people. It sucks,

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It sucks, but I don't know. There's just something about getting a

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laugh that's intoxicating. Well that that
that's that's a big deal. I would

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think, uh, go ahead,
hang on a second, go ahead,

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Wait, you're not on it?
Feel like to get a laugh. What

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does it feel like the kid you
get laughed Freddy? Freddy gets laughs,

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Freddy gets pitty laughs. Yeah,
it's jazz hands. What did your so

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you wanted? I want. I'm
kind of curious as too, So music

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was sort of the passion. Yeah, then when did it transition to shit?

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I could do this on stage?
Do you remember the first time you

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hit a stage was in an open
mic? The first time I hit a

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stage was in eighth grade. Eighth
grade did do comedy? Oh, you're

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talking about comedy? I met piano? No? No, oh, yeah,

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for comed for comedy. The first
time was in high school when I

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was seventeen, I think, and
I went to the Boulder opened mic because

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my best friend at the time was
leaving for Japan you joined the military,

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so we wanted to do like one
like crazy thing together. So then we

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tried stand up and we both bombed
hard, but I like fell in love

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with it. But then COVID hit
right after. Okay, So then through

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COVID, I kind of forgot about
stand up because I only in one open

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mic, and I just you know, went down the college path and kept

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doing college. And then after everybody
in your family, all your older siblings,

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A college dude, I'm a stand
up. My brother is like an

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engineer at Warner Brothers. My sister's
a doctor. My other sister works with

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like amazing businesses, And I tell
Penis jokes a cafe. One of the

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reasons, like I was excited that
you were coming in is I really think

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like out of everybody I've seen,
and no offense to anybody in the room,

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uh, but that I think that
you have the biggest upside I've ever

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seen in a young person, Like
I think you have. You're the guy

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that people will go, yeah,
I knew him, I knew him,

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or I I shared a stage with
you know at some point because you're both

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in the Funniest Person in Rochester contest
and this person's now trying to use you

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to get a little leverage. But
I have to think with all that,

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there had to be a lot of
pressure to kind of conform in to family

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standards. By that by meaning like
get an education, get a great job.

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Your brother's this, your sister's that, your parents came over and we're

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really why, yeah, to give
you a more opportunity. And I get

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that they're like, we can't here
you know, give you a better life

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and more opportunity. And I'm like, yeah, you succeeded three times the

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other kids. Let me do my
own three out of four. Yeah,

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it's not bad. That's a passing
grade. Well not, it's not a

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brown passing grade. That's a passing
grade, right, And I would assume

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you were very well in school.
I was. Yeah. I mean,

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like I said, I would get
in a lot of trouble, but grades

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wise, I did do well.
I was the kid where like I'd never

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handed my work or anything like that, but I would just pay attention and

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do well enough on the tests where
you know, got buy on bees.

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Okay, yeah, it just never
did homework. It was Did your parents

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ever say anything? Compare you to
your siblings? Do you do you have

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kids in school or you had kids
in school? I do. I have

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a thirteen year old and I have
a son who's a senior at college here

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and one who's older than me.
Do you guys use like infinite campus or

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like the online grating pol Yes,
I have ruined my life. Oh sure,

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absolutely ruined my god. I used
my parents were teachers and you would

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get the midterm report, yeah,
and I would beat it to the mailbox

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and hide it. Yeah, because
I knew even though they were teaching,

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like, hey, you know,
the mid term should be coming out.

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I guess anything going. I couldn't
do that, dude. I'd go no

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because everything was right there. I
go home and they were already yelling at

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me about a grade and I'm like, I don't even know what test you're

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talking about, Like I took that
test today and they already knew I got

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like a forty or something. Wow, So I would assume, uh,

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comedy in the beginning, when you
when did you decide this is the path

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I want to go? After I
got my first like actual show spot and

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I was like, okay, they're
considering booking me now, I was like,

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I think I can really do this
and run with this. Do you

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remember the first time you got paid
tell jokes? Yeah? I remember.

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I was going to comedy at the
Carl since open mic for weeks and weeks,

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and then Vinnie Paulino finally was like, you want to host? And

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I was like, oh my god, twenty five dollars. Yeah, but

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it doesn't matter, right, you're
getting paid. It was like to tell

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jokes. I got paid ten minutes
for one or ten dollars for one minute

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one time, and it was like
one of the greatest things ever. Who

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paid you ten dollars for one minute. I'm gonna say the name and it'll

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make sense for anybody listening. Mike
Scletta, Oh I don't. Yeah,

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I know that name. Why do
I know the name Rochester. He's a

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Rochester legend. He's a Rochester legend. Yeah, he's like the Rochester of

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William Montgomery. Yeah, wait,
I think I do know what it is.

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Yeah, funny guy, I like, I got it, but yeah,

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Scoletto is like, that's Janitor and
Webster. Yes, it's like,

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I'll give you ten bucks for one
minute. And as soon as I went

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up, some lady started heckling me, and I went, man, shut

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the fuck up, and that just
did my jokes and left. I bombed.

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As soon as I told her to
shut up, I bombed. I

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shouldn't have done that. Yeah,
it's funny how some times that works.

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I thought it would work. Sometimes
it works. Sometimes No, this is

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going to kill the room. Yeah
it was. It's one of those What

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is your parents' reaction than when you
they don't love it? Did you tell

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them how long before you told them
that you don't stand up. It might

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have been a year, a year, or a year and a half.

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So you go a year? Yeah, when did you drop out of RIT?

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I dropped out of RIT halfway through
my second year, so I all

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right. I did my first semester
for computer science and I hated it,

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so they put me on probation.
So then my second semester, I switched

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to music production and I liked it
far better. But then I started getting

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work doing audio in the city and
it was like clashing with my classes.

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So I just stopped going to class
and started taking the gigs, and so

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then they suspended me for a month. School did, yeah, school did?

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So, I just I hadn't told
my parents, and then and where

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are you living? Still? With
them? I was just I would say

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I feel bad about it. I'd
say I'm going to class and I'd go

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do gigs and get like work experience
and stuff. And then I had after

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one semester, I had to write
them in an essay saying why they should

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let me back in. And then
I wrote the essay and they said not

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good enough. So then I wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

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wait time time I'll go back.
What did the essays say? The

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00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:26,319
essay said, I'm really sorry,
please let me back in. I promise

410
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,200
I'll do my work, and they
said not good enough, and they're like

411
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,960
not good what did they want to
plan? Like? They wanted to play

412
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,680
actually, and also they just they
my Accounseert told me they wanted to proof

413
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,480
you weren't doing like nothing with your
life. So then I included all my

414
00:27:37,519 --> 00:27:41,599
work experience. Oh, I've been
working with these bands and these news stations

415
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,200
and then they let me back in. You were working with news stations,

416
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,680
Yeah, I was. I was
working on a mini little song series with

417
00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:52,680
Dan gross Over at Channel eight Songs
from Studio B, so I kind of

418
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,960
helped start. I helped him start
that series, not taking credit completely,

419
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:02,079
I just assisted that. So yeah, I included all that in the new

420
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,279
essay. They let me back in, and then I just never signed up

421
00:28:03,279 --> 00:28:07,240
for classes. So at some point
you got to come clean to mom and

422
00:28:07,319 --> 00:28:12,559
dad. Yeah, how did that
go? I waited till I got my

423
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:19,440
first actual spose were you're more nervous
doing that or going into the main office

424
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:25,039
when there was a box there?
Penfield? Which more nerve wracking with parents

425
00:28:25,079 --> 00:28:29,000
because the bomb I was like,
I did nothing wrong with the parents.

426
00:28:29,039 --> 00:28:30,079
I was like, I did a
couple of things wrong here, but no,

427
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,400
Yeah, I came clean to them
and they were what was the reaction

428
00:28:33,519 --> 00:28:37,200
though, They were pissed. Yeah, But I mean when you say pissed,

429
00:28:37,319 --> 00:28:44,319
there's there's disappointed, yeah, parent, and then there's like, I

430
00:28:44,359 --> 00:28:48,279
wish you would just have told me, because there's a part of me that

431
00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:52,599
I'm wondering with your parents. You
know, they left a situation yet for

432
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,559
a better life, and I'm sure
that their family is not happy with that

433
00:28:57,319 --> 00:29:00,279
or some members of the family.
Even with this, you kind of got

434
00:29:00,279 --> 00:29:03,799
to go, all right, it's
your life, your path. Yeah,

435
00:29:03,839 --> 00:29:07,279
and I'm glad. I hope they
still don't love it. But I'm still

436
00:29:07,599 --> 00:29:12,079
on the grind of like explaining to
them that, like college is a path

437
00:29:12,319 --> 00:29:15,960
that can, like not necessarily,
but it will it can ensure a good

438
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,960
life. Like, Okay, you
get a degree, kind of a degree

439
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,960
to like fall back on. But
I was like, what I'm doing is

440
00:29:22,119 --> 00:29:26,640
far far riskier, but if it
works out, then I'm going to be

441
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,519
in a great position. And I'm
not trying to like get famous doing stand

442
00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:33,079
up or anything. I genuinely don't
care about that. For me, I

443
00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:37,359
think there's two mindsets. It's I
want to be famous, so I'm going

444
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,480
to do stand up, or it's
I want to live to do stand up,

445
00:29:40,519 --> 00:29:42,119
and to live to do stand up, I have to be famous because

446
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,359
that's for some people, that's the
only way you can get paid doing standp

447
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,079
You need to have an audience and
a following if you want to get it.

448
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,039
So I feel like I'm more on
the second one, where I just

449
00:29:52,039 --> 00:29:55,079
care about being funny and being good, but I know that I have to

450
00:29:55,079 --> 00:29:57,880
have an audience to make a living
doing this. Let's take a moment here,

451
00:29:59,319 --> 00:30:00,839
and I want to know. I
want you to think about this,

452
00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:07,319
the idea of disappointing your parents.
How did that make you feel. We'll

453
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454
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456
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457
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458
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thought Thanksgiving, why bake? And
by that point in the evening when you're

459
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gonna have dessert anyway, you've had
enough of your elders, why not drink

460
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you're gonna want to. And they've
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461
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462
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463
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464
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465
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after a few come on and then the

466
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467
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468
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494
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You know, when I think about
it, I was kind of a

495
00:33:07,799 --> 00:33:15,079
Rochester radio slut. I got around
from station to station. I don't understand

496
00:33:15,599 --> 00:33:19,920
comedian Amir Our shot is here.
Amir was just telling us that he is

497
00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:22,880
a young guy twenty one, dropped
out of rit but didn't tell his parents

498
00:33:23,079 --> 00:33:29,640
for a year. So Amir knowing
for that year that you were going to

499
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:35,079
disappoint your parents. Yeah, how
did that panic attacks? Seriously? Yeah,

500
00:33:35,119 --> 00:33:38,880
like your constant pant ataxt Now,
how about have you met your grandparents?

501
00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:42,960
Did you ever? You've gone back
to podcast? So, my my,

502
00:33:45,799 --> 00:33:50,519
what is that something's listening to us? I don't know my grandparents are

503
00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:53,920
hacking this show right now that I
don't talk about that. Yeah. My

504
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:59,039
grandparents on my mom's side also moved
here when my parents they did. Yeah,

505
00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:04,279
they moved here. So yeah,
So that's a great extended family because

506
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,680
a lot of times, like you
never know my whole mom's side of the

507
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,559
family, like all her sisters and
her parents, we all were neighbors in

508
00:34:10,599 --> 00:34:15,920
the same neighborhood for like years.
We all lived in Penfield and then they

509
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,360
all moved to Henrietta and they all
lived next to each other in Henrietta,

510
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,519
and we stayed in Penfield because my
parents just didn't want to switch schools.

511
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:24,599
Yeah, because they like it when
their kids are accused of bomb threats.

512
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:34,719
So who would be the biggest supporter
of your talent in my family? Probably

513
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,440
my brother, your brother, because
my brother is a huge stand up fan.

514
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:39,559
Yeah, he's the engineer at Warner
Brothers. Yeah. When you say

515
00:34:39,559 --> 00:34:45,719
engineer at Warner Brothers, recording engineer, software and software. Okay, but

516
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,880
yeah, my brother is by far
the funniest person I know, even like

517
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,880
comics. I know, no,
because he I always try to get him

518
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,480
to go on stage because I think
he'd kill if he really worked on it.

519
00:34:58,519 --> 00:35:00,159
Where does he live. He lives
in See. Yeah, okay,

520
00:35:00,679 --> 00:35:05,199
but he doesn't like going on stage, and that's not it's not as bad.

521
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,159
Yeah, he does jiu jitsu and
he just beats the shit out of

522
00:35:07,159 --> 00:35:10,719
people. Okay all day. There
you go, dude. He would come

523
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,960
home and, like, you know, he's ten years older than me,

524
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,119
so he would come home and just
throw me around when we were kids and

525
00:35:17,159 --> 00:35:21,360
we'd wrestle, and then he started
doing jiu jitsu and every time he came

526
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,519
home he would beat me in like
a fancier way, like make me beg

527
00:35:24,599 --> 00:35:34,119
in a weirder position. So who
is the biggest influence in your comedy mind?

528
00:35:34,159 --> 00:35:37,280
Your comedy world is comedy life in
terms of any comedian. Yeah,

529
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,119
I mean somebody that you've always went. Man, that that's I gotta tell

530
00:35:40,159 --> 00:35:45,840
you, you're pretty original. I
didn't I didn't see anything in your delivery

531
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:46,960
that I go, Well, that's
a little bit. I didn't. I

532
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:52,639
didn't notice anything, but Daniel Tosh
probably, oh, Daniel Tosh. Okay,

533
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,199
Yeah, the first time I watched
a full special and watch stand up

534
00:35:57,159 --> 00:36:00,639
his first special when I was in
middle school okay, was in like sixth

535
00:36:00,679 --> 00:36:04,079
grade, gotcha, And I didn't
understand half the jokes. But the jokes

536
00:36:04,119 --> 00:36:06,639
I did get I thought were hilarious. And then as I get older,

537
00:36:06,679 --> 00:36:09,239
I'd go back and watch that special
and then understand the jokes more and more.

538
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,960
Yeah. I used to just do
his bits at school. I would

539
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,639
just quote that special at school.
It's try and get laughs. Yeah,

540
00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:19,360
and it worked. Yeah, Yeah, and you saw the power of It's

541
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,599
a powerful thing, you know.
You said it's addictive, and i've uh,

542
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,000
does this come up a few times
this week? But when you get

543
00:36:25,039 --> 00:36:30,719
that laugh to walk into a room
and get three hundred plus strangers, yeah,

544
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:31,920
to laugh at you. First of
all, you gotta be a little

545
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:36,719
crazy to think that a you can
do that. And then I always say,

546
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,000
this is the most the purest form
of entertainment. It's just you.

547
00:36:39,559 --> 00:36:45,039
So you got to one have confidence, maybe a bit of an ego,

548
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,800
to say I can make these fuckers
laugh. I think at one percent is

549
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,079
an ego thing because if you're getting
three, laughing is a reaction to being

550
00:36:52,119 --> 00:36:54,519
likable. So yeah, three hundred
people are laughing at you or laughing with

551
00:36:54,559 --> 00:36:58,599
you, I should say three hundred
people like you. Yeah, so right,

552
00:36:59,519 --> 00:37:01,360
I don't care. A comedian says
they're all narcissists. We are all

553
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:06,599
narcissists, especially this guy, Freddy. Is'll be like, if if they

554
00:37:06,599 --> 00:37:14,599
don't laugh, I'm gonna kill myself. Like Freddy, what's the the I

555
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,159
audiill here? So so far,
Freddy, get right up on the mic.

556
00:37:16,199 --> 00:37:17,960
Put him. I go to the
audience and I'm like, no one

557
00:37:19,079 --> 00:37:23,679
laughed tonight. I need to get
past the prelimbs. So what's the process

558
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:30,800
for you coming up with material?
I had to get in the habit.

559
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,360
It took a while to get in
this habit. But anytime I think something

560
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,800
amusing, I just write it down
on my phone all day, and then

561
00:37:37,079 --> 00:37:39,880
me and Freddy get together and we
write jokes a lot. So together.

562
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:45,679
Yeah, so I feel I need
like another person to write with because when

563
00:37:45,679 --> 00:37:47,719
I'm writing by myself, I'll write
something and I'll be like, well this

564
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,599
is funny. I don't know if
this is funny. But like when I'm

565
00:37:50,599 --> 00:37:52,519
talking with Freddy, I'll say a
bit to him and then he doesn't laugh

566
00:37:52,519 --> 00:37:55,880
because it's not funny. But then
I'll just keep talking until he laughs,

567
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,159
and then once he laughs, I'm
like, okay, that's the part that

568
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:00,760
I need to remember, right,
Okay, So yeah, just coming up

569
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,920
with anything funny during the day and
then just talking it out with someone and

570
00:38:05,039 --> 00:38:08,360
Freddy. Do you guys write on
a regular basis? Oh? Typically,

571
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,519
yeah, probably like once a week
or so. Yeah, just go pitch

572
00:38:12,559 --> 00:38:16,519
ideas because a mirror like me,
we both have a lot of new premises

573
00:38:16,639 --> 00:38:21,119
and ideas that we can go through
very fast, so we could just bounce

574
00:38:21,159 --> 00:38:25,199
them back and forth. So yeah, that's uh, that works pretty well.

575
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,800
I mean, if you've got a
writing partner that always makes it all.

576
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,360
So Freddy is like one of the
only people that keeps it real with

577
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,320
me. Like I'll tell him a
bit and he'll be like, dude,

578
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:37,440
that's trash. A lot of them
are yeah, like all well, but

579
00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:39,519
I mean a lot of them are
gonna be you know, It's it's hard

580
00:38:39,559 --> 00:38:43,840
to come up with that. There's
some people you write with and anything you

581
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,400
say they're like, oh, that's
gonna kill It's like you will never do

582
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,480
where do you work it out?
Mike's like open mics, any open mic?

583
00:38:52,519 --> 00:38:54,800
Do you like the open mics?
I love the open mics. You

584
00:38:54,880 --> 00:39:00,239
do a lot of people. Open
MIC's gonna be tough because it's people bring

585
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:05,440
in their friends, and so sometimes
I like because the thing with open mics

586
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,559
is most open mics is just bomb
city, even for like us just going

587
00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:13,800
up there and eat an absolute crap. But once you learn to hate yourself

588
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,719
enough, open mics are so fun
because if you're bombing in an open mic

589
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,760
and the audience hates you, you're
just like, yeah, I get it,

590
00:39:20,039 --> 00:39:23,000
and then you're just having a good
time. We'll go from a Rochester

591
00:39:23,079 --> 00:39:27,199
open mic to a Buffalo open mic
in the same Yeah. We did that

592
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,000
for a couple of time. Throughout
the whole competition. We would do a

593
00:39:30,119 --> 00:39:34,599
Rochester mic. If there were two
Rochester mics, we'd hit both Rochester mics.

594
00:39:34,599 --> 00:39:37,039
A couple of nights it was three
Rochester mics, and then we would

595
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:39,199
drive the Buffalo do a Buffalo mic, and then we'd get back at like

596
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,880
one, yeah, and then I
would have work at like six in the

597
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,119
morning, so I was getting like
four hours of sleep. What do you

598
00:39:45,519 --> 00:39:49,239
what do you do? I was
working at the Rochester Central School Districts.

599
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,239
I'm taking it anymore. No,
this is my last week. I was

600
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,239
supposed to be there today, but
okay, I just didn't. This is

601
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:58,480
your last last week? Are you
moving to New York? You are going

602
00:39:58,519 --> 00:40:00,400
to move to New York? Have
you on stage down there? I have?

603
00:40:00,559 --> 00:40:04,599
And how's that gone? It's so
much better down there? Why is

604
00:40:04,639 --> 00:40:07,559
that? It's just I'm gonna move
this one camera. Yeah, go for

605
00:40:07,559 --> 00:40:12,840
it. There's always crowds down there
that want to be there. There's a

606
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,000
lot of open mics here at Rochester. But we'll find a venue and then

607
00:40:15,039 --> 00:40:17,599
we'll be like, oh, there's
always a lot of people at this venue,

608
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,519
like Boulder, And then you go
to Boulder and it's like nobody there

609
00:40:21,559 --> 00:40:24,880
wanted comedy in the first place.
Like people at Boulder came there to study

610
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:29,159
and do their work. And now
you got Freddy being like, well Palestine

611
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:35,079
and like a flash mob. They're
just minding their business and then we're just

612
00:40:35,159 --> 00:40:38,280
telling them jokes. That's uh,
that's kind of funny. But New York,

613
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:44,280
it's like everybody is just always wanting
to see comedy. Where have you

614
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,400
played. I've done a lot of
spots in Brooklyn, so I've done stand

615
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:52,599
up New York, the tiny cupboard
spots like that. There's also comedy in

616
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:58,119
New York has gotten very careful,
where they're very careful about what they say

617
00:40:58,159 --> 00:41:00,280
on stage and you can see it. But I think it's starting to go

618
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,360
in the opposite direction where I went
the first time I did a show down

619
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,159
there, all the comics before me
were doing very what seemed like careful jokes

620
00:41:07,199 --> 00:41:10,360
and Okay, let's use the right
words and stuff like that. But then

621
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,599
once you go up there and start
pushing the boundary, you learn that that's

622
00:41:14,639 --> 00:41:17,880
what the audience wants. I think
audiences are getting sick of people they are

623
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,880
towing the line, and once you
really jump the line with a good joke,

624
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,760
that's what audiences are like thirsting for. Right. Yes, yes,

625
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,440
I went up and just opened with
straight nine to eleven terrast stuff, and

626
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:36,119
it was almost like they were like, thank God, that's crazy. You

627
00:41:36,159 --> 00:41:37,760
say that. It's like, oh, nine to eleven, Thanks God.

628
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:45,039
So how would you describe the comedy
community today? Is it supportive of each

629
00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:50,840
other? It used to be you
know, being around some of the guys,

630
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,280
not a regular in it, but
just seeing stuff was it was competitive.

631
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:59,239
It was it was caddy in a
way. You know where what does

632
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,719
that mean? Wow? I mean
like they were they play jazz, Yeah

633
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:08,039
they did, They would bebop and
no, these guys were. They were

634
00:42:08,039 --> 00:42:13,360
more like behind each other's back,
trying to you know, steal time,

635
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,559
steal jokes, say shitty thing,
it's not that good. Yeah, you

636
00:42:15,559 --> 00:42:20,320
know, someone killed as It was
weird. When we started, there was

637
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,840
like a whole surge of new comics
in Rochester that started at the same time.

638
00:42:23,079 --> 00:42:25,960
Yeah, so I think we all
just kind of became friends with each

639
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,800
other immediately because we were all new
and didn't know what we were doing.

640
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,400
And I think the scene now is
pretty supportive. You're gonna have weasels in

641
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:39,800
any scene, Yeah you are.
You are like Freddy. I don't even

642
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,360
know how I got here for it
because I always think, like, look,

643
00:42:44,119 --> 00:42:47,800
you sure nobody wants to lose out
to somebody. Yeah. But at

644
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:54,920
the same time, we have a
group called the Basement and Basement and you

645
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,719
know, we put on shows and
stuff, but we're not really like we

646
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,000
didn't start the group just to be
like a product comedy production thing. We

647
00:43:02,119 --> 00:43:06,480
really just started the group so we
could have a group of comedians that all

648
00:43:06,559 --> 00:43:08,360
are kind of on the same wavelength
with what we want. We can hit

649
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,079
each other up and be like,
what do you think of these jokes?

650
00:43:10,119 --> 00:43:15,000
It's more like just a comedy collective. Yeah. But to Bill's point though,

651
00:43:15,159 --> 00:43:20,519
that group also kind of started because
certain people weren't getting opportunities to be

652
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,679
booked on shows because they weren't I
guess in that crowd. In that crowd,

653
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:28,000
there is there is something about that. Now, sometimes if you're really

654
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,119
funny, you just penetrate through that, but sometimes you can't even get heard.

655
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,400
Yeah, yeah, and so that's
not cool. So that's pretty sharp

656
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,360
review guys. Yeah, we started
that, and then we started an open

657
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:38,679
mic, and then through the open
mic, we got traction, so we

658
00:43:38,679 --> 00:43:43,719
could start doing like shows and booking
people that we thought were really funny but

659
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,800
just like we're never getting stage time. Yeah and yeah. So now now

660
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:51,960
we got a Wednesday night open mic
with the Interloop blog over at Rock Cinema.

661
00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:55,559
So shout out to Shanel and shout
out Shane Allen. Wednesday's eight thirty

662
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,360
and last Friday of the Month is
a showcase at the Comics from each month.

663
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,679
Now, you're gonna be down in
New York City though, Yeah,

664
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,920
you're you got a place down there. Yeah. Me. I'm living with

665
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,559
my buddy Ryan Garcia, who I'm
doing the show with on November eighteenth.

666
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:14,559
November eighteenth in the in the Rickles
Room at Comedy at the Carlo Freddy's on

667
00:44:14,599 --> 00:44:17,159
the bill. Freddy's on the bill. We got new jokes, new jokes,

668
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:22,760
local comics, Arico, Sean Day, Alex Mallory, all Killers.

669
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:27,119
All did really well in the competition. Oh Justin Brown can't announce that yet,

670
00:44:27,159 --> 00:44:30,679
dude, all right, Justin Brown's
gonna be doing some time there too.

671
00:44:31,639 --> 00:44:35,960
Yeah, it's gonna be November eighteenth, eight o'clock Rickles Room. You

672
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,719
can get tickets Carlsoncomedy dot com.
Tickets are moving a lot faster than we

673
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:43,559
thought, so go get them before
they're gone. Good. Who would you

674
00:44:43,639 --> 00:44:46,360
like to meet either one of you
guys in the comedy world and sit down

675
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:51,480
and sort of picked their brain?
Is there anybody? I mean, there's

676
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,440
always the legends, like sure,
sitting down with Louis or yeah, yeah,

677
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:59,119
just seeing how they think things through. I want to sit down with

678
00:44:59,199 --> 00:45:04,639
like William Montgomery from Austin, Texas. He's a regular on kill Tony.

679
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,079
That dude is so wild. I
like wild comics because it's something I could

680
00:45:08,119 --> 00:45:12,519
never do. Like when I'm on
stage, I'm very I like just talking

681
00:45:12,599 --> 00:45:15,559
like this because when I say something
crazy, the foil of it makes it

682
00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:19,519
sound ridiculous. But people that just
go on stage are just running around just

683
00:45:19,559 --> 00:45:24,519
screaming jokes like That's is so funny
to me. I love that because I

684
00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:28,440
could never do that. So just
seeing something I can't do, I'm like,

685
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:34,760
I really like this. What's what's
the endgame for you? In terms

686
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,239
of, you know, comedy,
And when I say endgame, it could

687
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,840
be I don't know. Do you
want to write something? Do you want

688
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,519
to I want, like, do
you just want to do standards? I

689
00:45:43,559 --> 00:45:46,760
want, like a famous rapper to
write a distrack about me. That's what

690
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,559
I want. I want them to
watch my special and be like fuck you

691
00:45:50,679 --> 00:45:52,280
yeah and write a distrack. But
do you want a special? You want

692
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,360
a comedy special? Though? No, I think for real. Ultimately what

693
00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:00,079
I want is I've my dream has
always just been being a regular at like

694
00:46:00,119 --> 00:46:04,360
one of the top comedy clubs in
the country, So whether it's the seller

695
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,840
of the store, like just being
a regular at one of those, Like

696
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,559
that's the dream for me. Would
you go to LA move to La?

697
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:15,440
Not? When I'm new That just
seems like a headache, yeh, LA

698
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,880
seems like really hard to break do
anything when no one knows you New York.

699
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,719
I think it's easier to just show
up to hope and mics and start

700
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:28,079
to make a name for yourself,
right, yeah, it probably it's probably

701
00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:30,519
true. I don't know. So
what are you going to do down there?

702
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:36,960
Just comedy? Uh? Yeah,
I got like some jobs I'm interviewing

703
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,360
for down there, just like small
pop shops stuff like that. But if

704
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,960
I can make enough to live and
just do comedy every night, that'll be

705
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,440
it. That's fine, that'll be
the greatest thing in the world. And

706
00:46:45,559 --> 00:46:50,599
I sometimes they pay you like for
spots and you can run around the city

707
00:46:50,679 --> 00:46:54,199
and make Yeah it's pocket change.
It is pocket change. But I mean,

708
00:46:54,199 --> 00:46:57,599
you know, I don't add up
right if you did a couple of

709
00:46:57,599 --> 00:47:00,079
those. I mean, I remember, guys, remember Norton telling me that

710
00:47:00,119 --> 00:47:04,199
he would run around the city to
different open mics, like on a Tuesday,

711
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,599
not open mics different places on Tuesday. It would be like fifteen dollars

712
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,840
for five minutes or whatever. It's
still a lot of them are still paid

713
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:15,360
to go up like two dollars for
three minutes or something like that. But

714
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,679
you just got to figure out which
ones are worth it. Sometimes you'll pay

715
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,840
for a mic and there's like two
people there. God damn it, what

716
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:28,159
am I doing? And that's that's
when you really have to quitting comedy.

717
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:34,679
Have you ever considered quitting comedy?
Every day? Every day really doing real

718
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,280
for real? Dude, I wake
up and I'm just like, who does

719
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:42,079
this for a living? Well?
Yeah, the absurdity of it is like

720
00:47:42,159 --> 00:47:45,760
a professional joker, that's a funny
thing, right, you just start driving,

721
00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:52,320
Like, but Freddy had Freddy has
skills. I do have a skill,

722
00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:55,880
actually a professional skill. Yeah,
yeah, that's what I mean.

723
00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:00,360
He has a professional skill. So
you could even you're you're an interpreter.

724
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,639
I'm a sign language interpreter, and
it gives me like the freedom to just

725
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:09,480
like relax with comedy as opposed to
like having to do this to get money,

726
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:15,119
like right now, where you're taking
bad gigs and you're doing shady stuff.

727
00:48:15,159 --> 00:48:19,119
So it's it's a nice balance to
have. What's the shady stuff talking

728
00:48:19,119 --> 00:48:22,599
about? Like just putting on shows? Yeah, yeah, I feel like

729
00:48:22,599 --> 00:48:28,800
you've done shady stuff definitely. Yeah, comedy obviously, what have you done

730
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,679
that shady and comedy? Did one
of your shows our show? Yeah,

731
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,599
the show we did together that was
shady, the one that we did we

732
00:48:36,639 --> 00:48:39,039
promoted on the Bill Moran podcast.
Yes, you were in. That's why

733
00:48:39,039 --> 00:48:44,039
Freddy came in. You not both
shows we produced? What two shows together?

734
00:48:44,199 --> 00:48:47,119
Yeah, the Birthday one and then
the one and the Alley shady that

735
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:52,280
just it's in the alley. We're
showing an alleyway. Yeah, just set

736
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,119
up a microphone and some how they
go. And so we set up an

737
00:48:55,119 --> 00:48:59,280
event, right, and we sold
zero to take good stay of Okay,

738
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:04,039
So we just barked for like eight
hours straight and got good amount of tickets

739
00:49:04,039 --> 00:49:06,679
sold and sold at least like twenty
five thirty tickets. Yeah, it was

740
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,760
a nice, nice crowd, and
they came and they loved it. I

741
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,159
don't know if they loved it,
they love it, they loved lives they

742
00:49:12,199 --> 00:49:17,519
loved for sure. Yeah, a
buffalo comic, very funny legend. So

743
00:49:19,159 --> 00:49:21,960
well, I dude, I think
you're going to be the one to break

744
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,960
out. I don't care if I
am. I do like I think so

745
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:30,840
Freddy. I know that sounds shitty
for me to say with you and I

746
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:35,039
didn't know you. And this is
the thing. It's Freddy's very funny,

747
00:49:35,079 --> 00:49:37,440
but there was something that was him
was like, uh, that's the thing

748
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:42,480
with like the basement though, is
like for our group of friends, Freddie's

749
00:49:42,519 --> 00:49:45,000
not really in the basement anymore,
but including Freddy, if one of us

750
00:49:45,039 --> 00:49:47,239
breaks through, then we consider that
all of us breaking. Yes, I'm

751
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,639
sure he probably doesn't want to hear
this, but you you can tell like

752
00:49:52,639 --> 00:49:55,840
a mirror has a natural joke riding
ability, and he has his own presence

753
00:49:55,880 --> 00:50:00,840
and identity on stage, where like
me, it's a me time to learn

754
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,480
how to write a joke. I
just learned how to write a joke like

755
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:07,840
two months ago. But he already
had the skill where he has been able

756
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,679
to fine tune it so fast and
come up with different premises and learn how

757
00:50:10,679 --> 00:50:15,320
to make it even better, which
just puts you out way ahead of the

758
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,559
game, which is already Yeah,
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if

759
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:23,480
like, have you thought about even
SNL anything like that. I want,

760
00:50:24,599 --> 00:50:29,199
honestly, I want to like start
a sketch show with Freddy because we write

761
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:35,119
three sketches together. Three years you'll
be writing for But I don't like Okay,

762
00:50:35,159 --> 00:50:38,000
but I'm not. I'm just giving
people a reference point. I want

763
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:42,719
to do a sketch show because I
think sketch shows are just such a pure

764
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,519
form of cod I do too.
Yeah, okay, pitture as a sketch

765
00:50:45,559 --> 00:50:49,840
right now, what you got you
quit comedy? That would be the funniest

766
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,119
thing of all the time. Freddy. Freddy says it took him a while

767
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:59,440
to learn this stuff. But Freddy's
been the king of bets. Ask anyone

768
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,639
in the scene. He's been the
king of bits since day one. Off

769
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:07,039
stage, bro, he will just
straight lie to people about dumb ship for

770
00:51:07,039 --> 00:51:12,960
no reason, just make them believe
things. And he's so good at it.

771
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,960
It took me months to learn that
if he says something to me,

772
00:51:15,199 --> 00:51:19,719
I can't take it seriously. This
is the thing. Dead panic, I

773
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,360
dead pan, I practice, so
it's so it's hard to do. It's

774
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:28,480
hard to do. He's got such
a friendly face, got a nice smile,

775
00:51:28,559 --> 00:51:30,440
handsome guyad smile right there, he
will, he will lie through his

776
00:51:30,519 --> 00:51:36,360
teeth and never stop, like a
handsome, nice smile. And then I

777
00:51:36,519 --> 00:51:38,519
know, yeah, I'm seeing I
know exactly what you're saying. I'm not.

778
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:43,840
Look, this is the thing,
is that one time I convinced these

779
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,599
people in Syracuse that I was sober
right, and I was just chirping on

780
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:52,320
my was at that show. I've
told him I've never smoked weed a day

781
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:57,400
in my life. And it was
a weird convention. They're also is none

782
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,440
of the audience members showed up.
Not a single audience member showed up,

783
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:04,039
so we were only doing jokes to
the weed vendors that didn't want to hear

784
00:52:04,199 --> 00:52:08,880
jokes. So you've you've paid your
dues, both you guys in comedy.

785
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:13,679
I mean you've you've eaten some shit
along the way gigs, right, Yeah,

786
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,559
me and Freddy have been on the
road together. Give me the first

787
00:52:15,559 --> 00:52:20,599
the first time you bombed somewhere?
The first time? What were Yeah,

788
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,559
do you remember what the field?
I don't. I don't need to hear

789
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:28,239
the event. Yeah, feeling what
went on in your inside you inside your

790
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,320
head? I was I was just
like mad, okay, where I was

791
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:36,559
like because It wasn't a fuck this
I'm giving up type. It was never

792
00:52:36,599 --> 00:52:38,360
like I'm a giving up type thing. And it always just turns into like

793
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:42,440
getting angry at myself of like,
okay, did why didn't you prepare for

794
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,719
this better? Yeah? And like
I remember, I had a really hard

795
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,320
bomb one night and I was feeling
so bad on myself and I was just

796
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:50,920
sitting at the bar and I was
nineteen or nineteen or twenty still, so

797
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,920
I had like a water in front
of me, and I'm like, I

798
00:52:52,960 --> 00:53:00,320
have to sulk with water in front
of me this bar. All right,

799
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:05,320
Well, good luck guys Saturday night, Rickles Room. It's a mirror our

800
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,719
shod and Ryan Garcia along. But
that that's that's all I said on the

801
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:13,360
headline. Yeah, and then you
got surprise guests. All right, that's

802
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,079
all that. Freddy. Freddy's very
good as well, and a good luck

803
00:53:17,079 --> 00:53:19,800
in New York City. Appreciate you. Thanks for having me on. I

804
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,760
think this will be great. I
think you will. I think you'd be

805
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,840
the breakout guy. People will be
like, man, I knew it so

806
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:30,079
well. All right, Bill shout
out, Bill Maren shout out to a

807
00:53:30,159 --> 00:53:40,199
mir our shod Freddy and we'll see
you on Monday. COLTL didn't know what

808
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,440
to do.