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M hmm. It is Tuesday once
again. That means it's time for talking

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on the Giant Bomb Cast. I'm
your host. I remain your host still.

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Brad Shoemaker to the right of me, Jeff Kerseman, Hello, this

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is a very solid opening. To
the left of me, Dan reichert Hey,

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Brad standing ominously authoritatively. I don't
know what's twelve o'clock high. Yeah,

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Drew scandalon yes on his feet at
the end of the Times sing songy

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Yeah, all right, okay,
nicely done. I wanted to kind of,

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you know, there was a good
conversation going before this thing, but

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it's all stuff that we can't I
wanted to surreptitiously just hit the red button

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and have it go while you were
talking. But then, no, none

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of it is stuff that's ready for
people yet. Cooler heads prevail can't.

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I can't get into that stuff just
yet. No, that's that's all December

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stuff, but the time is not
because it's fan November. Now. Yeah,

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I'm gonna apologize immediately. I am
a little sick, but it's just

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enough to make me sound like that's
your snake voice going very timely. Middle

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Gear, middle Gear, are we
just old when we're talking about, oh

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my god, I can't believe there's
almost over, happy New Year? Is

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that that's just what old people talk
about, right, I thinks what boring

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people talk about. Okay, crap, Uh, we're moving on. I

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don't know, I said, I
always just think about it in terms of,

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like, there are going to be
a lot of games coming out.

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Yeah, that doesn't seem to be
the case necessarily this year. Yeah.

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Maybe, well not as much.
I mean not as much definitely two or

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three. Oh yeah, there are
still some huge games left to come out

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this year, and there's there's but
the couple of them on the same day.

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The undercurrent is not as deep.
You're right, you're right, But

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but you're you know, you've been
doing not get pulled out to see like

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you used to back in the PS
two days now now, But you've been

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doing this for what close twenty years? Sure? Yeah, I'm I'm I'm

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at about fifteen though. Was this
twenty fourteen? Yeah? I yeah,

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I first collected a paycheck for writing
about video games that I'm in nineteen.

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Is that what defines it? Sure? I guess, I don't know.

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I started doing freelance reviews in ninety
nine. So yeah, anyway, you

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know, you've we've been living this
seasonal lifestyle for so long. Sure.

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Yeah, I mean like there's there's
very clear delineation throughout the year of like

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it's like, well, you know, E three, He's gonna be in

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June, Madden's gonna come out at
the end of August. Yeah, November

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is going to be insane from start
to finish. It's like tried, tried

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to take a vacation before Madden comes
out, says it's getting busy right after

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that, right, Yeah, you
learned pretty quickly to brace yourself for the

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end of the year. Yep,
I am. I am braced. I'm

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clenched, which is yeah, yeah, definitely, let's going well, I

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don't know, like you know,
it's but again, like I feel like

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a ot of this is like residual
holdover from the days of trying to review

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everything, which we haven't done in
years. So it's actually it's pretty okay.

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Yeah, yeah, I'm all right
with it. There's a lot coming

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out. I'm ready to accept the
weight. Yeah, I got a spotter.

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Yeah, it's true. Yeah,
I mean it's you know, for

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us, it's it's a lot of
quick looks handful of reviews for sure,

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Yeah, you're not anymore? And
then yeah yeah, and then game of

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the year stuff. I'm a weight
belt. Yeah, and the game's usually

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peter out by what November, like
last freaking November. Yeah, Friday cut

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off. Yeah, the Tuesday before
Thanksgiving is typically the last big release day.

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I feel like, didn't Far Cry
three come out Rember. There's always

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like it was like Final Fantasy ten
was a December game. Yeah, they're

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always just like one game that ran
late or something. One of the dead

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or alives. I think it's Smash
Brothers. Swee you is December and no,

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no, no, that's November twenty
one. They put say that they

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November twenty one. That's on my
radar for sure. I think you're wrong,

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all right, Tom Cruise in the
December game? Is that a movie?

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What sounds like it is? It
does register that domain right now,

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the December game game in December gamemovie
dot com. Yeah, the December dot

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game. I think Smash Brothers for
GameCube actually came late because it launched in

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November of two thousand and one,
and I think I remember Smash being a

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little late. It might have come
out that December. Part of me always

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feels bad for those games that ship
in mid to late December because they're not

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going to get considered on any Game
of the Year list. Yeah, it's

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like the movie that comes out after
the Oscars, remember that? Yeah,

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you're right, eleven twenty one.
Yep. Well, I I had totally

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missed they put a date on that. Yep. Yeah, was that part

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of that? Just like ridiculous info
dump? That happened a couple of weeks

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ago. I think the date might
have been a little bit before that.

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I'm not positive on retail was reporting
that for a little bit. Yeah,

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okay, man, all right.
Was it really a ridiculous info dump or

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was always like a player it was
like a little factoid, Yeah it was.

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It was a pretty long live stream
where they were they player thing was

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the big thing? Is there like
a proper single player mode in this one?

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You? No, I didn't see
it, like on the level of

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like a subspace emissary or something like
that. I didn't see the whole stream,

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but I feel like I would have
heard of that if there was a

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big single player component to that bummer. I'll yes, I'll cop to it.

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I thought that game was gonna miss
this year. They went so long

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without announcing a date for it.
I was like, yeah, it was

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way yeah, what's them? And
then the Amibo stuff is still coming out.

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I forgot about is that timed with
Smash? It probably should mean he

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shouldn't it. That's the big game
that that stuff works with, right,

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I don't even know if they've announced
I think I wanted to say, I

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thought I thought Mario Kart was gonna
work with it. Really, Oh yeah,

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I think there is some retroactive stuff, but I thought I thought Smash

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was Smash definitely uses it. If
that's the one where you can like store

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data. It's like it's like your
custom characters and your your tweaked meat characters

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and everything. Yeah, yeah sure
if kids will be into that, Yeah,

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those are That's day and date November
twenty first for the first wave of

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Amibo figures. Wow, and then
the second wave in December. Huh I

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guess, I guess the second wave
of Infinity two pointo stuff just hit.

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Yes, it did. Speaking of
waves, I believe Donald Duck has included

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okay, uh, anybody interested in
the Amibo stuff at all, even even

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like academically, even from like just
an intellectual curiosity. I feel like they

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haven't shown anything that makes them unique
or stand out in a way that makes

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it matter, Like, you know, it's like making AI fighters, like

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you don't need the figures for that. I don't know, there's no I

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mean, I haven't seen I don't
see the value in Smash Brothers specifically,

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and until they start kind of until
they have more games that support it,

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and you start getting like, well, if you if you leveled him up

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to this level and Smash Brothers,
he's gonna be able to do this in

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Mario Tennis or you know, like
if if they start doing those sorts of

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crossovers, then it gets interesting.
Yea. Was that what they were going

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for with the e reader back in
the day. I don't know what they

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were going forth you, Yeah,
there's no The e reader was the thing

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for game Boy at the reader tells
you how many Thedan's you have? Are

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you clear? Drew a little murky, Yeah, we all are. We

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all are keeping I know the e
reader was It read barcodes basically, and

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they sold sacks of cards that would
be like these three cards are the nes

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version of Urban Champions. Scan them
and then you will be able to play

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this hot game on your game Boy
until you turn the power off plugged into

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the cart right. Yeah, yeah, well I'm not sure if I've ever

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seen one of those in persons.
And then it worked with like Animal crossing.

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They were like you would get cards
for so you hook your your GBA

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up to your GameCube and then use
the E reader to scan a chair into

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your game. Whoa, it was
really stupid. Yeah, and I want

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to say, you could just scan
to the chair in over and over again.

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It's sell it, so may Man, maybe I'm wrong, You're willing

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to do the legwork. Yeah,
no, the economy. No, I

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found all my E cards. It's
not that long ago. Uh, that's

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stuff is all really stupid. Yeah. And when the Pokemon, the Pokemon

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Mini, the little their handheld console
that played pinball and was like cartridge based,

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but it was also like Tomagotchi sized. Who you're you're not talking about

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the thing that came with that one
Pokemon game that was like a pedometer.

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Right. There was the Pokemon Pikachu
that was like a Tamagotchi but but a

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Pikachu. And then they they did
a updated version of that that was cartridge

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based that had like four games for
there was like there was a Pokemon pinball

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for it. Wow, yeah,
I was, I was in I was

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in London seeing that stuff. I
went to London to see that stuff.

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I have no recollection of that.
You know, we're Pokemon's from yep,

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that dumb stuff and now we have
Toys to Life. That's right. I

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haven't seen the implementation of the amibo
stuff with respect Smash Brothers. But aren't

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they kind of missing the whole magic
moment aspect of like slamming the thing down

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on the pad and having it appear
in the game. Yeah, Like,

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isn't that the thing that made Skylander
so popular? I think that that is

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the league that they keep talking about
when they talk about Skylanders. Absolutely,

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but this is like, yes,
is that not how it works? And

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it's I mean, Mario was already
in the game, whether you have the

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amibos or not, you know,
So it's it's not it's not. It's

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not the same one to one correspondence
of like I got the plastic figure and

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now it's in the game. So
instead it becomes this like a little more

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abstract thing of like, well,
you're leveling up this AI guy and then

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that somehow stored in the toy And
why haven't they done like a VMU thing

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with an iPhone app mm hmmm,
yeah, well, I mean like smart

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glass choo on your iPhone. Theoretically
the second screen stuff built into the PS

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four and Xbox one would be capable
of that. But I think everyone's just

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realized that all that ship is dumb, and they were really trying it with

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like mass Effect three and stuff with
the little like ship mini game on iOS.

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They could send them off for missions, your galactic readiness whatever. My

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ship, my ship, but didn't
have my ship be my friend. And

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you really like Sonic dress what you're
saying, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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feed your mag It's the only thing
that needs feeding, the mag more tri

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mates. They are still selling Tomagotchi's
in Japan. They have color screens,

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you know. That's I want to
say. They came back relatively recently.

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Actually, that's the second time in
the last let's say thirty ish hours that

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I've talked to somebody about whether they're
still selling Tomago cheese or not. I

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had one. I did too,
who didn't have one? I found I

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found my recently after I activated.
It was I just covered in feces and

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bed sores and crying out for help. Yeah. No, I activated it.

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It died about eight days later,
and then I never used it again.

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I put it back in the box. It came in. Wait,

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like from death or from battery failure, from death, okay, cause death,

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death or leave or don't I remember
losing I remember losing this paper thin,

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fucking premise of a video game and
going well, fuck this thing forever

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and putting it back in the box. It came in, and that was

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that. Yeah. Do you remember
when Hideo Kajima said he wanted to make

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a game to where if you died
this the disc would self destruct. Yeah,

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you know he said you'd have to
buy in your copy. I don't

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know how that would happen. I
doubt it. Like incinerate, it's like

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a mission impossible thing. But like
he wanted it to like just delete the

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data on the disc or something.
I stop there, you know, just

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like have it blow up your PlayStation. I guess you're a house Yeah,

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yeah, go for broke. Kojima
will personally show up at your house.

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Yeah you lose, Someone fucking just
comes to your door and guns down your

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family. It launches an ICBM somewhere
on Earth. Whoops. Oh, he's

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a true visionary master of the craft. That's that's transferring Stage two. Yep,

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just transfer this, transfer this sword
into your abdomen. Saw the words

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transferring the word transferring today in the
wild on the video game Can video game

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coming soon to a website near you, Dan, Yeah, do you want

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to talk about Kansas City? I
want to talk about your casey Odyssey.

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Boy, it was pretty much the
most like I mean, I drank a

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bunch and I played a bunch of
video games, and uh my, watch

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my dad sit on the floor in
a robe and talk about being tired for

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eighty percent of it. Tired because
he's him. Okay, yeah, yeah,

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it just hasn't worked out ever.
He eats. Yeah, we've talked

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about his something about the diet of
energy drinks and cigarettes and taco bell.

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Yeah. So yeah, it's just
a real fun thing. We're I'll always

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be like wanting to get my friends
together from college and like, all right,

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we're gonna go to the reballoon to
night. Dad, what time we're

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gonna be there? It's well,
okay, tell him, tell everyone at

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eight o'clock. I'm like, all
right, eight o'clock, everyone, let's

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be there, And then seven fifty
rolls around. He's sitting on the floor

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in his robe, talking about how
tired and fatty is, and I was

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like, yeah, you told me
to tell everyone, and so him getting

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mad at me for trying to enforce
the times that he wanted to go out

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and so yeah, it's fun time
and then just trying to shove Red Bull

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and Vodkas down his face like every
two seconds because all he talks about its

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being tired. So but yeah,
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city was real disappointed at the end. There, Sure some good baseball happened.

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It was it was. It was
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everyone was was really excited to have
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think not a big downer. I
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it was Yeah, it was close
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kind of a kind of a nail
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I didn't see Game six, but
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that would have been it right then
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was the ten to nothing one yeah, yeah, that's what I mean.

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It was like, yeah, the
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gonna take it. And then then
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it was great. Uh and then
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there at the end of Game seven
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puked in the woods? Okay,
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yeah, I wonderful. I was
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bunch of leftover caso dip in the
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all day, like way too much
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yeah, I think of cheese, I

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don't think, well, look at
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nice little dip thing, and I
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that. And then I ate all
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like, I can run through this. I'm a curse, but I can

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run through this. I can make
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to stop while the metal your Solid
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running playlist, and I puked in
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themes. Awesome doing it. It
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puking. And then then I had
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on because I had puke in my
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to run a couple more miles to
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it's great. Now that is that
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a like a Bond theme song?
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you made Dining on a tree Frog
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that's great. That's a great song. That's not the only metal gear

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you have on your playlist? Is
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two theme. I've got the middle
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I like running the metal gear and
rocky music. And wrestling and wrestler themes.

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That's my whole running playlist. That's
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motivates you. Most most inspirational music, the most motivating posed I have on

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my running playlist is the theme from
twenty eight weeks later you mentioned that,

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Yeah, I think it's called Done
abandons Alice. That's the track name so

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YouTube that it just you feel like
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to run. Okay, nice,
it's a good reason. Yep, yep,

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yeah. I'm just played a bunch
of games all his home played with

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the play the Donkey Kong Country Tropical
Freeze a bunch with my sister. I

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loved the first don Kon Country you
so much, but like I played through

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that with my sister over a Christmas
break a couple of years ago and it

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was great. So I saved that
for playing with her. And it's man,

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it's fantastic. It's it's super good. I almost forget it came out

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this year. I was. I
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yeah, because out here that feels
like ages ago. It does, and

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it's fantastic. I didn't wanted to
play that, and we're getting to the

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point now where it's like mental catalog
of like, what have I not played

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this year? Because we're gonna have
to decide what the best games of the

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year are soon and I should start
making up lost ground. So that's the

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w U game that was basically the
same as the three DS game, right,

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no, no, no, no, no freeze me and you did

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the quick Look three D. The
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Total in your game of Returns.
Returns is the first one, got it?

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Yes, this is one where you
play as Cranky Kong and keep doing

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all that stuff, Okay, and
it's it's just man, it's just some

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of the best two D platforming.
I don't know why people aren't constantly talking

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about the Returns games because they are
genuinely among the best two D platformers I've

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ever played. I mean I played
the we when starts finish and thought it

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was really good. But I mean
they're great if you want to like go

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for that like major challenge, like
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and stuff. It's I mean,
it is up there with the best that

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like Supernintendo had to offer. I
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Mario World is probably my favorite platform
or ever. And I'm not going to

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say this is as good as mald
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part of that elite group. I
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all of the Donkey Kong Country games. The old ones I thought were they

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do not play that well. Yeah, it's just kind of floating and weird,

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and you can't really tell where platforms
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do that role jump off stuff.
The graphics end up making that a little

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weird. But yeah, these new
ones I think are so much more crisp

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and it's so much easier to end
up enjoying. We did that quick look

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and I ended up enjoying it,
but never really wanted to go back to

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it. Yeah. I think they're
far or far spirit of the Super Nintendo

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ones. Oh crap, Well that
that seems fine to me because I think

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that's a like a super low bar. Oh yeah, like those Nest games

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I thought were like bad. I
know a lot of people remember them very

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fondly that they were, but they
were tricked by the fall. I think

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those games got a significant amount of
knowledge out of the graphics. They hype

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it so well though, I remember
getting like Nintendo Power sent me a VHS

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covered in like banana leaves or something, and it's like, oh, we're

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gonna sneak into Nintendo headquarters and find
out what's going on in Donkey Kong.

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And you see like these what looked
like three models, and it just looked

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incredible. It was like, you
know, it was like their thing of

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like all these new consoles are coming
out pretty soon. You don't need that

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crap. Look at this. Yep. I still remember this ad because I

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hated the fact the new consoles are
coming out, because I knew I wasn't

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gonna be able to afford it.
And so I remember when Yoshi's Island came

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out, there was an ad.
It had a crying baby on it,

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and it was always an AGM.
It said like crying, whining and kicking

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and screaming, and that's just the
two bought new consoles. And I remember

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seeing that and being like, yeah, like this is on Super Nintendo.

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I'm fine with Supernintendo. This is
gonna be the system forever, like fuck

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PlayStation, and it just turns out
that's not really how the mergent time works.

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Fuck PlayStation. Indeed, Yeah,
it's gotten us to where we are

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today. It's true. The PlayStation
is Super Nintendo like, yeah, I

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suppose that's true. And it's catalog
Yeah, yeah, that's true. A

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legendary console it is, Dan.
Yes, did you play much else while

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you were on the road. I
played a good amount of the last gen

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version of w E two K fifteen. Yeah, which is the only version

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out so far. Correct. Yeah, they ended up pushing the proper console

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versions back to the eighteenth Originally they
were all supposed be out of the same

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time. And yeah, who knows. It seems like for for the sake

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of appearances, if nothing else,
you want to at least, you know,

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either lead with the new console version
or or day and date both of

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them. Well, you know it's
but who knows, something crazy happen and

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yep, yeah, which this version
is not that good, the last and

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one. I mean, it's a
game in a long running series of bad

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games. Like what you know,
Like, what were you really expecting?

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I liked thirteen and fourteen, I
didn't like twelve, and the smack numbers

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for our series was kind of man
whatever, but I thought, I thought

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the first SmackDown it's great, like
the first first it was such a breath

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of fresh air for a wrestling at
the time, because you didn't like,

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you're the only person that likes those
more than the sixty four ones. Those

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were the the shitty little brothers of
No Mercy games were they were barely even

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wrestling games. Oh good lord,
are there any license to it? Are

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you games? You like that?
Midway Arcade games pretty awesome? Wrestle any

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of the arcade game there many of
the arcade games also in your house on

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place and pay on the PlayStation is
terrible. Or yokazun was like pulling fish

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out of his pants and people with
and you're like, you're there was a

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wrestling ring in the desert. Yeah, like, for no good reason doanks

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electrifying people with a hand dozer?
The whole thing is Yeah, Supercard,

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seeah, Supercard, that's my epic
pro Alberti dal Rio rising up the charts.

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Have you put more time into Supercard
than the Nintendo sixty four wrestling games?

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Yes? Probably, I'm gonna say
probably. I'm gonna say probably on

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that one. We're gonna check right
now because I just did a King of

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the Ring and lost, but I
got high enough tier to get a free

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epic card. Those things sells for
twenty five bucks. Make it quick,

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because I just forced myself to lean
back from the microphone for a minute.

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Uh huh. I think we just
hit the sixty second mark and this concludes

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your giant podcast wrestling minute. But
it's it's wrestling games we're talking about,

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Okay, I'm claiming my reward was
a random epic card. It's edge.

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He's angry. It's a Hall of
Famer. Who's edge there is? That

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guy had him copeland? What?
He got injured and had to stop wrestling.

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He's on a crappy sci fi show. Now what era are we talking?

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Like? Add a card? I
mean, like we'll say ninety eight

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to two thousand twelve. What is
this era called? This is some some

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people refer to it as the reality
era, and you only truly name an

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era after the fact more or less
ended. When attitude era, the ruthless

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Aggression era, it's terrible, the
PG era, and now people call it

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the reality era. But those are
all pretty I mean, what was Lithic,

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yeah, Mesozoic? Yes, yes, the Hollo scene what all right?

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We're done? Okay, moving on? Yeah, Dan, any other

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games that are not wrestling uh,
yeah, well this weekend mainly, I

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mean it when I was back home, but I spent a crazy amount of

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time this weekend playing Sunset over Drive. Yeah. I saw you tweeting about

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it and start getting excited the things
you were tweeting, one thing in particular,

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I assume, right, well,
it was kind of the whole thing.

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Well, it's a great game,
like I had the So here's a

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weird thing about that game that I
am coming to realize was not just my

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perception, because I feel like a
lot of people are saying it. It

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gets a lot better the deeper in
you get. Yes, like the writing

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gets better, the gameplay gets more
fun. I mean they you know,

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they give you a bunch of new
abilities, so naturally it gets more fun

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because there's more things you can do. But it just kind of clicks,

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you know, we talked about it
on last week. Yeah, introversal gets

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a lot better when you get like
the air dash and stuff. But also,

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for whatever reason, like that game
just feels like it's trying too hard

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to be edgy for the first two
or three hours. Yeah, there's a

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lot of just pop culture references and
like, yeah, there's like you know,

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there's a big Lebowskie reference. There's
a breaking bad reference like Reddit at

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one point. Yeah, there's a
lot of references like that. But also

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just like kind of the general tone
of the dialogue and stuff in a lot

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of cases for the first two hours, three hours or something is just kind

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of like, I don't know,
a lot a lot of breaking the fourth

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wall. Some of that stuff is
handled well, but just in general,

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the attitude is a little bit too
in your face for me, but it

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gets a lot smarter later on in
the game. Yeah, I'm doing kind

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of drop that stuff. Yeah,
yeah, they do. I think they

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try to establish that tone early on
and then they just kind of you know,

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yeah, like you said, drop
it. Like it's almost it's almost

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like they got more comfortable with the
like style of humor they were they were

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going for. I don't know.
And it's not as greating as I thought

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it would be because the trailers and
everything. I thought it was going to

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be trying so hard for this like
punk pop aesthetic or whatever. But you

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know, there's a bunch of lame
jokes and I might roll my eyes every

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once in a while, but it
all just seems to fit in that universe.

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Yeah, it all just seems to
be this kind of cohesive like this

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is what we won our game to
be, and it pulls it off.

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Like you remember that first trailer when
they revealed it and it showed everyone you

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know, swinging on these ropes and
shooting stuff, and like it's like,

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Okay, there's a great concept video
or whatever, but it's not gonna play

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like that. It plays like that. They go back and watch that trailer,

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like you are swinging around and shooting
crazy weapons and everything looks like that.

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It's it. I think it nails
it. It is. It is

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like towards the end of the game, it just gets super busy as you're

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flying from one like grind Point or
bounce pad to the next and like particle

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effects exploding everywhere, like a hundred
guys coming out here, which even makes

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it fun to Like you know a
lot of games that there's just a shitload

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of collectibles. It just feels like, Okay, I do this lazy collectible

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thing. But because the traversal and
itself is so much fun, Like I'm

405
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liking the factor. It's like buying
all these maps and just spending time running

406
00:23:57.720 --> 00:24:02.880
around collecting everything. Maps really expensive, Yeah, they do, especially once

407
00:24:02.920 --> 00:24:04.839
you get to the third island,
and they're like ten thousand overcharge each because

408
00:24:04.880 --> 00:24:08.920
they so they you rack up the
same currency to buys weapons and also maps

409
00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:15.240
for the correctibles. Yeah, and
the collectible maps are like alarmingly expensive compared

410
00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:17.559
to what the weapons cost and how
much you're getting. Yeah. It's one

411
00:24:17.559 --> 00:24:18.799
of the things where it's like the
first one is really cheap. Yeah,

412
00:24:18.920 --> 00:24:22.079
and then from there it's crazy and
they get even worse, you know.

413
00:24:22.119 --> 00:24:23.359
And at a certain point it's like, well, I could be buying more

414
00:24:23.480 --> 00:24:26.920
collectible maps, or I could actually
be trying out new weapons. And I

415
00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:29.319
always went from new weapons, so
I didn't go after a lot of that

416
00:24:29.319 --> 00:24:30.440
stuff. Oh, the collectibles for
a reason, I mean you know yeah,

417
00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:33.519
yeah, but you're using those to
buy amps. Yeah, these are

418
00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:37.000
the collectibles that you that you are
like recipe ingredients. Yeah, but I

419
00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:37.960
mean, know, how many of
those do you really need? To fist

420
00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:41.240
the thing? I never got into
that, like you didn't need them at

421
00:24:41.240 --> 00:24:44.359
all. I never got into their
stamps. Yeah. Yeah, crafting new

422
00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:45.680
ones like the ones that you get
in the course of the story, I

423
00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:48.880
found to be totally adequate as long
as I have eighth that I kind of

424
00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:51.880
like, you know, I can
fill out my whole weapon wheel. I'm

425
00:24:51.880 --> 00:24:55.759
pretty much okay with that. And
I don't really like the forth defense stuff

426
00:24:55.759 --> 00:24:59.119
that much. There was like the
traps and stuff are just I kind of

427
00:24:59.279 --> 00:25:00.519
got into it. That was the
thing that you know, from the early

428
00:25:00.599 --> 00:25:03.480
part of the game that I played
before I got into other stuff. That

429
00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:06.480
was a part that there was a
big turn off to me right out of

430
00:25:06.480 --> 00:25:07.799
the gate. Was Yeah, so
like, yeah, I guess I've only

431
00:25:07.839 --> 00:25:10.759
seen the worst of this game,
Like I have to play more of it.

432
00:25:10.920 --> 00:25:12.599
Yeah you should. There's some there's
some good stuff in there because it's

433
00:25:12.680 --> 00:25:15.799
yeah, because I got to that
base defense thing and kind of hated it,

434
00:25:15.079 --> 00:25:19.000
and then the writing is bad too
in the early parts. So yeah,

435
00:25:19.079 --> 00:25:22.440
you can avoid a lot of that
for it depends stuff like there's four

436
00:25:22.519 --> 00:25:25.400
main forts and you have to do
you know, at least that initial one

437
00:25:25.559 --> 00:25:27.039
the last. They last like three
minutes each. Yeah, yeah, it's

438
00:25:27.240 --> 00:25:30.799
like fifteen minutes of the game when
it comes down to it. Yeah,

439
00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:32.480
it's just not a thing. I
want to go back and I try to

440
00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:33.799
get a better challenge score. Yeah. I didn't go back and do the

441
00:25:33.880 --> 00:25:37.920
challenge versions or anything. But but
yeah, I saw you tweeting the photo

442
00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:41.200
of your of your Freddy your make
a Freddy Mercery. Yes, it's incredible,

443
00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:45.039
which was like a shockingly accurate likeness, And I was all honesty that

444
00:25:45.079 --> 00:25:47.519
made me want to play that game, because if you give customize your character

445
00:25:47.559 --> 00:25:51.519
to that degree, like what else
can character customization? It's full on Saints

446
00:25:51.599 --> 00:25:55.920
Row level of nonsense. Yeah,
are you adjusting like cheek structure and so

447
00:25:55.960 --> 00:25:59.200
they've got just a bunch of included
faces. Yeah, but you can.

448
00:25:59.240 --> 00:26:02.319
You can change any face and between
genders at any time in the game.

449
00:26:02.519 --> 00:26:03.519
There's no cost to it or anything. I mean, you can buy like

450
00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:07.400
different jackets and stuff. I got
to buy the Freddie Mercury stuff right and

451
00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:08.920
like and the and the clothing also
wasn't gendered, so like you can put

452
00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:12.559
a you know, ballerina outfit on
a big like muscly dude if you want

453
00:26:12.640 --> 00:26:17.119
or whatever. I'll say that I
was loving the game. I was already

454
00:26:17.160 --> 00:26:18.240
like, you know, ten hours
deep when I made Freddie Mercury, and

455
00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:22.039
I was loving it before, but
playing as him, like it's actually making

456
00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:27.200
me enjoy the game like significantly more. With the baseball bat because that's what

457
00:26:27.519 --> 00:26:30.319
I could see him doing that if
he hadn't died. I mean, you're

458
00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:33.359
just skating around on rails shooting Teddy
bears out of cannons. Yeah, he's

459
00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:36.440
a cool dude style like that.
To be honest, Freddie Mercury is pretty

460
00:26:36.440 --> 00:26:38.920
great. He was the coolest dude. But it was also the part of

461
00:26:38.920 --> 00:26:41.359
the game that you were tweeting about
when you did that, Like, I

462
00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:45.880
think that's like when you get to
that third faction, the LARPers. Oh

463
00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:48.599
yeah, I feel like that's when
some of the more clever like mission design

464
00:26:48.640 --> 00:26:51.319
and writing kicks in were you're calling
in like the catapults and things like that

465
00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:53.599
and stuff like that, and just
like the Bard's song I thought was pretty

466
00:26:53.640 --> 00:26:57.839
funny. And then the Fleaming Sword
forging mission, that part in the nuclear

467
00:26:57.880 --> 00:27:00.319
stylo. Yeah, that was easy
and awesome, a lot of that stuff

468
00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:03.319
that that's when it starts getting just
really dumb and fun. Yeah, you're

469
00:27:03.319 --> 00:27:07.440
like alternating between flame sword and lightning
sword every time you swing it and just

470
00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:10.920
killing like a hundred robots. It's
it's just fucking cool. Yeah. I

471
00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:14.079
love that game. Yeah, it's
it really picks up, it's it finishes

472
00:27:14.119 --> 00:27:17.200
strong too. Oh good, Okay, if you haven't done, there's a

473
00:27:17.240 --> 00:27:21.359
side mission. I think it's called
Fizzy. The inside story. Is that

474
00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:25.200
the one where you're destroying all the
little things that speak, don't m no,

475
00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:26.279
okay, that's the different thing.
I'll tell you what it is after

476
00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:29.400
the podcast, but okay, I
think that's the name of it. It's

477
00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:30.960
something like that. I highly recommend
doing that side mission. I think I'm

478
00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:33.000
gonna do them all anyway. I
thought some of the some of the more

479
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:40.000
amusing stuff was in that's the focus
group mission. Okay, so yeah,

480
00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:42.319
do that one. Okay, uh
yeah, that's uh yeah. I think

481
00:27:42.359 --> 00:27:45.720
that game maybe in the end,
turned out better than I expected me too.

482
00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:49.599
Yeah, I went especially based on
again impressions of the first a little

483
00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:52.519
bit of it. Yeah, it
wasn't like crazyly on my radar beforehand,

484
00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:55.880
because again the humor and the trailers
kind of rubbed me the wrong way.

485
00:27:56.359 --> 00:27:59.640
And then it was the quick look
we did where I was watching you play

486
00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:02.599
and you had you were a little
past the stuff that was yeah at this

487
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:03.640
point in the first couple of hours, and I was like, Okay,

488
00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:07.359
I'm totally playing this game. It
looks awesome and then there's the other's stuff

489
00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:11.680
with the benefit concert and all that
stuff, like yeah, yeah, right

490
00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:14.799
now I'm playing. Is Freddie Mercury
trying to put together an awesome rock concert

491
00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:18.720
for kids with cancer? That's happening
in this video games mission best the mission

492
00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:22.119
objective. It's amazing. Yeah.
Cool, that's really dumb. If you

493
00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:26.279
book them, they will come yep, yeah, it's true two reference.

494
00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:32.960
Yeah, okay, that's what we're
working with you. Yeah, all right,

495
00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:37.680
well I suppose it's time for that
annual tradition to continue. Yes,

496
00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:40.240
where we discussed the new Call of
Duty game, here, here we go,

497
00:28:40.359 --> 00:28:41.559
all right, the new Call of
Duty game. Lay it on us.

498
00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:48.400
It's called the Call of Duty colon
Advanced Warfare. Just like those other

499
00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:52.240
Call of Duty games where it was
modern warfare. This is this is past.

500
00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:55.640
This is advanced. That's how you
get past modern. Yeah, this

501
00:28:55.799 --> 00:29:03.240
is postmodern warfare. It's it's really
good. Yeah, yeah, advanced warfare

502
00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:07.519
is is really good. I was
actually I was surprised. Yeah, I

503
00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:11.279
was surprised by it. There's some
really corny stuff in there, and it's

504
00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:15.079
it's not perfect. I think that
there's some stuff that they are leaving behind

505
00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:19.319
that they shouldn't like what like Black
Ops two had a branching campaign. Yeah,

506
00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:22.119
there was. That was not you
know, I mean I think that

507
00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:26.440
that campaign was not perfect, but
you know, it showed signs of like,

508
00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:29.599
hey, look we understand, like
there's more. There was more we

509
00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:36.160
could be doing to make this campaign
cool. And no game since then has

510
00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:38.240
had that branching campaign. Yeah,
that was. That was one of the

511
00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:41.759
very first things I asked you when
you came back from playing through that thing,

512
00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:42.640
was like, do they do any
more of that stuff? And you're

513
00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:45.000
like, nope, it's just a
straight ahead Yeah, it is just a

514
00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:48.759
straight straight ahead campaign. The one
thing that is, you know, at

515
00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:52.559
the end of every level, basically
they've got they've got stuff in there for

516
00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:56.279
they've got milestones in there for headshots, grenade kills, regular kills, and

517
00:29:56.480 --> 00:30:00.519
finding the intel laptops. And as
you hit those miles stones, you get

518
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:04.359
points you can spend to upgrade your
exo suit. It's the thing that lets

519
00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:07.680
you double jump. It's your fancy
metal backpack. Let's double jump and climb

520
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:11.519
walls and do all kinds of cool
shit. In the campaign, they kind

521
00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:15.039
of assign you a specific load out
for that thing, depending on the level

522
00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:17.720
itself, so you don't always have
the double jump and boost stuff, but

523
00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:21.880
in multiplayer you always do have the
half of the boost stuff. That's what

524
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:26.079
matters about advanced Warfare is the mobility. You know. It is something that

525
00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:29.000
that you know, Titan Fall earlier
in the year, I think did a

526
00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:30.480
great job with like all the wall
running and double jump and all that stuff

527
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:33.880
to just make it faster, more
frenetic for that type of competitive shooter.

528
00:30:34.599 --> 00:30:37.880
This kind of does the same thing, only doesn't have you know, it

529
00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:41.880
only the maps are designed for human
size players and not human sized players and

530
00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:48.720
giant robots, and that actually adds
a lot to it. It's a you

531
00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:51.920
know, it makes the game more
three D. I feel like like there's

532
00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:55.279
more. Yeah, it's coming at
you, man, Yeah it's right in

533
00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:59.319
the face. Pop, it's popping
up. It might be so like yeah,

534
00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:02.039
verticality, Yeah, it takes place
on multiple plants. I mean you

535
00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:03.039
used to have you know, it's
like some would be up high sniping or

536
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:07.279
something like that and you'd be down
low and have to deal with it,

537
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:08.640
you know. But now it's just
like you are building. Yeah, you

538
00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:14.240
are just double tapping jump and boosting
up onto these rooftops, so you end

539
00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:15.680
up you know, yeah, even
just rooftops, like you could just like

540
00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:18.960
jump over an obstacle or a barrier
right exactly running around it. Yeah,

541
00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:23.039
and you know that you hear that
and go like, well, fucking whatever

542
00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:27.440
that it actually makes a big deal
kind of tactically, you know, because

543
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:32.160
it creates then a situation where now
everyone's going fucking ape shit jumping all over

544
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:34.680
the place. So there's value and
staying low. Yeah, like right now

545
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:37.359
early on, yeah, because I
mean at the time of this recording,

546
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:41.079
like the games it's in I don't
even know what you'd call this period,

547
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:44.640
about twenty four hours it's out kind
of early whatever. They zero. I

548
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:47.759
also started selling it on Monday.
I mean I okay, oh, can

549
00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:49.039
you just walk in and buy it
on a Monday. I imagine you might

550
00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:52.400
have to go through some fucking bullshit. Rigg and role. We're like,

551
00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:53.519
hey, I'd like to pre order
the game, and now here I am

552
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:56.759
picking up the pre order. I
don't know how that stuff works, but

553
00:31:56.839 --> 00:32:00.720
I can't imagine they're just like saying, Nope, sorry, come back tonight.

554
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:02.960
You know, like it could they
couldn't have done that, like they're

555
00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:06.680
not gonna do midnight releases tonight or
you know, there's no way. I

556
00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:09.200
don't know. I don't know.
I'm gonna play with fire here and try

557
00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:13.240
to open up the Steam store on
the recording machine. I mean, I

558
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:16.519
could just have this laptop over.
I mean it works on Steam. That's

559
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:19.759
how I got on. No,
I know, but but I want to

560
00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:22.400
see if you can just click buy
right now. Oh and not like technically,

561
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:27.000
Yeah, it says right here now
available Call Duty Advanced Warfare Day zero

562
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:30.200
editions. The game is just out. You just released the day. It

563
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:34.119
literally came out a day early.
Yeah, I just I wonder, I

564
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:36.160
mean, I bring it up or
you know, I kind of want to

565
00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:39.680
belabor this a little bit because I
mean it's you know, it's not the

566
00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:45.519
first you know what what they actually
aren't really yeah, it's it's actually it

567
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:50.680
says released time twelve am Eastern Standard
time on so they took pre order sales,

568
00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:52.640
unlocked it for those people and God
to back up, but it's straight

569
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:57.759
up says on their storefront it says
now available. Well, yeah, it's

570
00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:00.440
now available. Just means hey,
if you have the Daisy, you're addition

571
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:02.920
and already paid for it. It's
available from you, but you can't weird,

572
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:07.799
well whatever the particulars. I mean, it's the first example of a

573
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:10.640
major publisher and a giant release like
this. I don't know how this is

574
00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:13.559
supposed to work. I don't know
how this is supposed to work. Yeah,

575
00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:15.240
but I mean, you know,
the details are kind of whatever.

576
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:19.200
Like, it's still pretty unprecedented.
Uh yeah, I mean I guess they

577
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:23.319
put the game on sale on Monday
and staid Tuesday. Really it's changes.

578
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:25.920
Yeah, it's not that it's it's
not that big of it, not right

579
00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:30.400
now, but it makes you it
makes you wonder if the kind of standard

580
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:34.119
Tuesday release cycle might get subverted a
little more heavily at some point. Sure.

581
00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:37.079
Yeah, I mean you know there's
already some games coming out on Fridays,

582
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:38.960
right Nino. Yeah, you know, and if we get to a

583
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:45.319
point where, you know, digital
sales are more and more prevalent, then

584
00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:47.160
you know, the people that update
those stores are you know, on the

585
00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:51.839
consoles. They seem loath to want
to update it day to day and want

586
00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:53.759
to just do like one day a
week or you know, something like that.

587
00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:59.759
But uh, there's no reason why
they couldn't be publishing that stuff whenever.

588
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:04.839
Sure. Yeah, Like my understanding
was that the Tuesday thing largely had

589
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:07.839
to do with like supply chain and
shipping and getting it in store. It's

590
00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:09.880
all just legacy stuff. Yeah,
it's it's all just super old. It's

591
00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:14.679
the same reason that CDs were in
stores on Tuesday. It's just the trucks

592
00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:17.599
are already set up to do that
sort of exactly. So, so if

593
00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:21.920
you're not bound by physical distribution anymore, Yeah, then whatever, maybe that

594
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:24.039
goes away too in the morning.
Just games come out whenever. Yeah,

595
00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:25.719
it's like, hey, this game
when cold, it's out now, Yeah,

596
00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:30.480
done, marketing campaign starts and now
it's also available. Sure instead of

597
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:34.119
trying to fucking build this aggressive pre
order campaign. Sure. The first time

598
00:34:34.119 --> 00:34:36.840
I tried the Steam preload thing too, and that's that's pretty handy. I

599
00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:38.159
mean it's literally like the second it
goes on sales, like, oh no,

600
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:40.119
I'm just gonna start this. Yeah, I don't have to drive anywhere.

601
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:43.880
I don't like it works. I
haven't. I haven't done preloading on

602
00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:47.760
Steam in a very long time.
Files unpack it and that took some time.

603
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:51.119
That's what I was going to ask. They still do the decrypting stuff.

604
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:55.199
Okay, yeah, yeah, so's
yeah. But anyway, it's uh,

605
00:34:55.559 --> 00:35:00.079
you know, the campaign is is
good. U It's it's straightforward,

606
00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:04.239
and you know, like I have
to you know, like it's not gonna

607
00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:07.840
fucking change your mind about Call of
Duty. Like there's really cool stuff in

608
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:13.360
here that drew me back in as
a lapsed Call of Duty fan that I

609
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:17.239
didn't I didn't expect to be drawn
back in to this degree. But yeah,

610
00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:20.920
I mean if you if you think
that it's just like whatever point A

611
00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:22.719
to point B, follow this guy, like it is still all that and

612
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:27.360
then something uh so yeah you are
going to continue to not like Call of

613
00:35:27.480 --> 00:35:30.400
Duty. Yeah, you know that
stuff. And on top of that,

614
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:34.480
like you know, hearing it's another
PMC centric storyline and stuff like that.

615
00:35:34.679 --> 00:35:37.519
Yeah, that stuff definitely like it's
a it's a good one I think,

616
00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:44.000
and that's largely because of Kevin Spacey. You know, he's good. He's

617
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:45.760
good. Yeah, A little bit
I've seen of it is like yeah,

618
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:50.719
he you know, there's I mean
it's like, you know, yes,

619
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:53.800
Chris Sabian is out there laying it
down, negotiating his fucking ass off,

620
00:35:55.360 --> 00:36:00.480
and in his ski jacket and or
sweater whatever the fun. Yeah, he

621
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:04.840
is the head of the Atlas Corporation. Uh and uh yeah, they're they're

622
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:07.360
a big PMC. So it is. It is kind of that story for

623
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:12.679
what that's worth. But then again, any story about military fiction, you

624
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:16.960
know, any fictional story about the
military these days that is set today or

625
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:22.599
in the future, is obviously dealing
with that exact stuff. It's uh,

626
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:25.000
it's it's kind of everywhere right now. So well, I think even outside

627
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:29.599
of the Spacey performance, the stuff
like the way they direct the Atlas propagandic

628
00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:31.880
commercials and stuff is really really well
done. But it's you know, it's

629
00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:36.360
just one of those things like the
character models look phenomenal, and Kevin Spacey

630
00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:39.079
being very recognizable is the clearest example
of that. So I was actually I

631
00:36:39.079 --> 00:36:42.960
haven't seen much of it outside of
just some brief clips at him, but

632
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:46.280
I was actually curious to the other
characters like match up to that level of

633
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:51.000
fidelity in terms of believe believable like
faces. So, I mean, you

634
00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:52.199
end up with kind of two versions
of these characters, whether you know,

635
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:55.440
there's the cut scene version and the
the in game version. I think they

636
00:36:55.519 --> 00:36:59.760
both look really nice. There is
a noticeable difference in quality, but you

637
00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:02.159
know, generally speaking, like you
know, you're you're cut seeing Kevin Spacey.

638
00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:05.199
Like at times you're like, whoa
was that? Was that real Kevin

639
00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:07.639
Spacey? What's going right? Yeah? Like your lead character, Mitchell?

640
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:12.840
Yeah what Mitchell? I just I
just meant does everybody else look as good

641
00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:15.840
as Kevin Spacey? Does it look? No, that's true for real life

642
00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:19.599
too. Most people don't look as
good as Kevin Spacey. I mean Roy

643
00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:23.920
Troy Baker with facial hair, uh
is basically your your lead character. Okay,

644
00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:28.320
so they're modeling other people's face similar
you know, I don't think it's

645
00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:30.599
identical to his looks, but you
know, yeah, it's uh, the

646
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:34.559
major characters have that, where like
Mitchell has that, Spacey has it,

647
00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:37.400
Getty in that Australia you're with has
it. But like I noticed, uh,

648
00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:39.840
it's not a spoilers. Everyone's been
talking on Twitter the part in the

649
00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:43.360
funeral at the beginning, like you
walk around, there's all these soldiers and

650
00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:45.199
you look at their gener Soldier.
It is going to look like General Soldier.

651
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:49.239
There. They're not going out in
mo capping and performance capturing every single

652
00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:52.199
person out there, but yeah,
but yeah, I mean the game.

653
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:58.880
The campaign, man, Yeah,
the campaign. At first, you're like,

654
00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:02.119
fuck really, because literally, like
you're you're dropping into the South Korea.

655
00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:06.360
North Korea is invaded, and you
know you're you're you're doing a drop

656
00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:09.239
that goes wrong and you know you
have to kind of kick open the door

657
00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:13.719
to this thing. And as soon
as you're through all that stuff and all

658
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:15.400
the setup, it's like, Okay, now you're gonna play Call of Duty

659
00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:19.000
here. It is the future is
now boom, what are we doing?

660
00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:21.480
I'm dropping out here? What are
we doing? Well? Can I run

661
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:25.239
anywhere? What are we doing?
You land right above your fucking CEO's head,

662
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:29.360
A little pip appears is his follow
Like, oh, okay, that's

663
00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:31.960
what you're doing, right, called
the duty And then you breach a door

664
00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:34.880
and it goes into slow motion and
you have to shoot a guy in the

665
00:38:34.920 --> 00:38:37.480
head. It does do that.
Yeah, yeah, but it's the future.

666
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:40.199
So you have mute charges which you
drop on the ground and make everything

667
00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:44.800
quiet. It suppresses all sound,
which is pretty fucking cool. Yeah,

668
00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:49.000
some good little gadget type things like
that. But overall, the campaign does

669
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:52.079
pacing really well. It covers a
good stretch of time. There's a point

670
00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:53.599
in the campaign where all of a
sudden just goes like four years later and

671
00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:59.559
you get to see like the you
know, the the reaction civilian reaction to

672
00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:05.400
the events that happened prior to that, uh kind of extrapolated out in a

673
00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:08.719
way. You know, like like
basically like you know, if you were

674
00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:12.760
to say, like have a video
game that had nine to eleven happened in

675
00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:15.880
it and then go like fast forward
to this, you know, and you'd

676
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:17.719
look at it and go like whoa, people are like lining up and taking

677
00:39:17.719 --> 00:39:20.880
their shoes off, and like security
is fucking weird, and like, you

678
00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:22.760
know, like like like that level
of stuff. Basically you have to see

679
00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:29.000
the before and after between it.
Let the geopolitical yeah, kind of climate

680
00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:30.559
just sort of settle out, all
right. It's really smart because like in

681
00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:34.840
like Modern Warfare three, where it's
just like it's popping off for the entire

682
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:37.199
campaign, you don't really have a
chance to catch your breath, and it

683
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:40.000
doesn't literally you don't feel any gravity
to any of the situations exactly. Yeah,

684
00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:42.480
you're just like you're just like,
oh, well, that blew up.

685
00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:45.760
Let's go to the next days.
Falling on my head. Yep,

686
00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:49.599
this game actually does a nice job
with that stuff overall, where like the

687
00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:54.000
pacing is better throughout where you kind
of have more quiet moments, not to

688
00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:57.880
say that it's just like here's this
intimate moment with Kevin Spacey, you know,

689
00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:00.920
but you you get you know,
he gets his talk on. You

690
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:06.639
get to kiss Kevin Spacey on his
number, press X, pay respect to

691
00:40:06.679 --> 00:40:10.800
his lips. No, it's you
know, And some of those are stealth

692
00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:15.559
sequences that I feel like they,
you know, Call of Duty has been

693
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:19.760
chasing that Call of Duty for stealth
sequence like the Gilly super mission, the

694
00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:22.480
Gilly Suit mission, Like ever since
that mission came out, they have never

695
00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:27.760
beaten it, but they they I
think that fire uh two snipers at the

696
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:32.960
same time the snow snow. Yeah, it's pretty cool with Brice. This

697
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:37.840
game I think comes the closest to
like achieving that sort of stuff. But

698
00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:40.760
it also has you know, weird
spy ship and it's like stuff where you're

699
00:40:40.760 --> 00:40:44.039
just like, you don't have a
gun. You know. There's are some

700
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:49.480
interesting little things that happen along the
way in that game that I think,

701
00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:53.519
uh work in its favor. It
makes it a more interesting campaign. Mean

702
00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:57.800
yeah, by and large, Yeah, you are running up to a scripted

703
00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:00.320
sequence full of dudes and shooting them
all down and running four word. But

704
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:02.199
you know, along the way,
I think the story is well told enough.

705
00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:06.760
They get good performances out of Kevin
Spacey and most of the rest of

706
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:09.400
the voicecast that you know, if
you're open to like that kind of like

707
00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:14.119
big dumb, overblown action movie kind
of storyline, like, it does that,

708
00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:16.519
and it does it better than Call
of Duty has in a while.

709
00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:21.199
That's good to hear. So I
like that, And even if it's a

710
00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:23.719
little disappointing that they sure yeah,
dropped the line, I want to say,

711
00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:27.119
dropped the ball. That's maybe a
little harsh, but you know they

712
00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:30.639
didn't. They weren't as ambitious about
trying out some new things as like say

713
00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:32.880
Trey Arch has been. Yeah,
but then all when it comes to the

714
00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:38.159
campaign structure, almost wonderous stuff like
the branching and the player agency stuff becomes

715
00:41:38.199 --> 00:41:40.559
like a tray Arch hallmark. You
know. It's like maybe you only get

716
00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:44.079
that in their games. You know. I think that that's actually like an

717
00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:45.719
increasing problem with Call of Duty.
It has been for a while. We

718
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:49.679
used to joke about it a lot
like, oh, you could notice that

719
00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:52.039
the tray Our games had better fire
right than the Infinity Ward games because they

720
00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:55.159
just had better firetech. And you're
like, why wouldn't they share that?

721
00:41:55.239 --> 00:41:58.039
What the fuck is going on?
And you go like, oh, it's

722
00:41:58.079 --> 00:42:01.199
because Infinity Ward is a huge fucking
chip on their shoulders about this stuff.

723
00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:04.880
Right. Well, you know,
times have changed, and you know,

724
00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:07.320
I would like to think that I'm
sure that there's probably some competitiveness between the

725
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:12.920
studios, but enough is enough,
Like, you know, it's at some

726
00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:15.760
point like that there needs to be
something centralized, like the experience needs to

727
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:20.559
have some consistency, and when you
end up in this situation where like this

728
00:42:20.679 --> 00:42:22.880
year you can dolphin dive, this
year you can't, like, you know,

729
00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:24.239
like at some point, that's just
dumb. I mean, it's kind

730
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:29.920
of it's you know, it's just
the problem inherent to annualizing, especially when

731
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:31.960
you you know, if anything,
it's gotten worse, like they're further diluting

732
00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:35.519
the identity of what color of duty
is. Yeah, because now they're on

733
00:42:35.920 --> 00:42:40.159
a three studio and now with advanced
warfare, they have you know this side

734
00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:46.239
dash back dash boost jump stuff that
fundamentally changes the way you play the multiplayer

735
00:42:46.280 --> 00:42:49.440
in that game, you know,
it changes what you're looking for, it

736
00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:53.599
changes the pace that it runs at. It's a much faster game. So

737
00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:57.559
like for me, like after playing
this, like the thought of, like,

738
00:42:57.760 --> 00:43:00.960
well, what if next year's game
is like some historically set thing where

739
00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:06.400
we're just we've gone back to like
kind of the standard weapons of the day

740
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:08.800
and the standard movement and the multiplayer. I don't want to play that game.

741
00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:13.079
They kind of can't, like even
if there is part of a segment

742
00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:16.159
of the audience that kind of rejects
this stuff, like it would just I

743
00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:19.760
don't know, it would look weird. It would be like admitting defeat kind

744
00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:22.039
of to just jettison all those news
sort of maybe, but you know,

745
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:25.159
but I think that they could they
could do it without admitting defeat by going

746
00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:27.639
like, oh, well, this
is set in the Korean War, so

747
00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:30.880
naturally wouldn't have that stuff and we're
looking to nail some different stuff. Like

748
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:35.400
that's fine. I think the appearance
of taking a step back would would not

749
00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:37.440
sure reflect well on their on their
record. Yeah, I think you're right,

750
00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:42.159
but like that's you know, that's
that's my personal taste, and I

751
00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:45.199
imagine that a lot of people after
playing a lot of advanced warfare, Like,

752
00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:46.719
you know, the first thing I
did so like Activision had a thing

753
00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:51.320
here in the area. I went
and play through the campaign there and played

754
00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:52.639
through some multiplayer, and then we
got it in house, so I was

755
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:55.079
able to, you know, play
it in our normal setup and not just

756
00:43:55.239 --> 00:44:00.639
go off some like hotel, banquet
hall, TV or some ship. It

757
00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:02.480
always, it always wears me out, how fast you come back from things

758
00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:06.639
like that. Yeah, Call of
Duty stuff. Specifically, it's a six

759
00:44:06.679 --> 00:44:08.599
hour campaign, right right, It's
like, oh, it's a three day

760
00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:13.760
event or whatever, and you're back
like that evening and it's like, whoa

761
00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:15.440
wait, I thought you were out
the rest of the week. No,

762
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:19.400
it's like, no, the game's
pretty short. Yeah yeah, I mean

763
00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:21.760
know, it is what it is. At some point you're like, okay,

764
00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:22.679
I've seen enough. I know.
I'men to get some time with it

765
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:28.000
before it comes out to get a
review together, so you know, but

766
00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:31.320
yeah, I don't know, Like
I don't want to. I don't.

767
00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:35.719
I think that what they've done with
the the EXSS suits and the movement speed

768
00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:37.199
and all that sort of stuff is
something that I don't want to wait another

769
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:40.519
three years for more of that,
and I think that there would be a

770
00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:45.079
huge mistake, like a game like
so, so the first thing I did

771
00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:52.199
after getting back was I put in
Ghosts. Ghosts on PS four is like

772
00:44:52.440 --> 00:45:00.360
a muddy mess by comparison, it
is just a blurry, blocky, like

773
00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:05.079
uneven frame rate. And I found
myself like clicking in the stick, like

774
00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:07.599
jumping and clicking in the stick,
trying to boost forward all the time going

775
00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:09.280
fucking come on, like, all
right, that's not in this game.

776
00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:12.719
Yeah. Well, you know,
even when that game came out, it

777
00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:15.840
did not look amazing. No,
no, very much had had a foot

778
00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:21.679
in each generation. But yeah,
I mean, but you look at Advanced

779
00:45:21.719 --> 00:45:23.559
Warfare and you know it's I'm not
gonna say Advanced Warfare is like the most

780
00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:27.880
amazing game in the world graphically,
but it's pretty sure. It looks a

781
00:45:27.960 --> 00:45:30.519
lot better than Ghosts. Looks a
whole lot better than Ghosts done PS four

782
00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:35.440
and PC, yeah are they similar. I mean the PC runs at higher

783
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:37.440
resolution. You know, the PC
verson actually has a lot more options of

784
00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:42.960
visual graphical options than I think a
lot of PC ports. I mean,

785
00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:46.039
it's for a game that like has
put out some bunk ass PC ports over

786
00:45:46.079 --> 00:45:50.480
the years, Like this has an
FOV slider that says, you know,

787
00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:54.400
just like you want to want to
preload the the shaders, you can do

788
00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:59.360
that. You know. There's like
there's a good amount of options on that

789
00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:01.239
menu that I was kind of surprised
by. But yeah, I'm in the

790
00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:06.800
PC version looks good, looks you
know, high resolution and sharper than the

791
00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:10.960
console versions for sure. Yeah,
you know, their new modes are all

792
00:46:12.039 --> 00:46:15.440
right, but I think I kind
of prefer the old modes. Your domination,

793
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:20.039
your team death match. You don't
like dunking satellites through portals. It's

794
00:46:20.079 --> 00:46:22.119
like a funny concept that the few
times I've played it, but like this

795
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:24.840
is cool, I don't really,
it's not. I'm see myself doing a

796
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:29.079
lot of crash and laser while you
do it. It was it was better

797
00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:30.960
in UT two K four. Yep. It always seen things were It always

798
00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:35.639
seems like there's some gimmicky mode each
year, Like I think last year it

799
00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:37.719
was Crank that was the big gimmicky
one. Yeah, yeah, they got

800
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:40.719
Jason Sathem. Yeah that's well,
there was there was Cranky, but there's

801
00:46:40.719 --> 00:46:44.760
also like there was whatever the mode
was that was like it was like up

802
00:46:44.840 --> 00:46:46.440
link but without the ball, like
you were trying to run into the goal,

803
00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:50.840
right right, Well, I do
like in this one they basically brought

804
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:53.400
back war which I don't know momentum
it's called momentum her. Yeah. I

805
00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:55.559
think in World at War might have
been the last time I saw where it

806
00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:59.079
was basically five flags and you have
to get them all, but you have

807
00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:01.519
to do them sequentially, so like
it's this push and pull throughout the mass.

808
00:47:01.559 --> 00:47:07.639
It sounds TF two has that that
sounds kind of sequential control points,

809
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:10.039
stuff get kind of guarantees a skirmish
line, Yeah, guarantees what are the

810
00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:12.880
action is going to be? I
guess. Actually the difference is that I

811
00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:15.800
think in TF two you have two
points that are open at any given time,

812
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:17.320
whereas this there's just one as you
kind of push your way through.

813
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:22.119
Still no heads, Nope, they
have hard point, which is similar in

814
00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:25.000
Spirit two headquarters, but not the
same. When was the last time headquarters

815
00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:30.760
was actually in modern More for two
Black Ops took no gun game. I

816
00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:34.840
love gun game. Try Arport was
really good at the super silly modes like

817
00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:37.559
six and Stones and one of the
chamber gun game I've always liked their stuff

818
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:40.840
with that. So the Creative Class
stuff is based on the Black Ops two

819
00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:45.079
stuff. They took a little bit
further in a way that I think is

820
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:46.719
really smart. And it's one of
those things where it's like, you know,

821
00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:50.239
if you look back over the years, it's one of the things where

822
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:52.000
it's like maybe it's good because the
multiple studios and they have different philosophies or

823
00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:54.159
something, but I think it's another
one of the things they just need to

824
00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:57.360
lock down and go like, this
is how the Creative Class works. Now,

825
00:47:57.880 --> 00:48:00.960
it's going to just keep working like
this until we have a really damn

826
00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:04.119
good reason to change it. But
there needs to be one just in general,

827
00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:07.320
there needs to be one consistent like
design through line through this whole series.

828
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:09.840
Yeah. I think they need need
to like come to a consensus,

829
00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:13.159
yeah, about how these things should
be. It's just like, well,

830
00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:15.920
now we got squad points and you
can unlock this stuff and whatever order you

831
00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:19.599
want. It got real complicated,
yeah, yeah, yeah, just like

832
00:48:19.679 --> 00:48:22.119
it's it's one of those things where
like having written reviews of these games to

833
00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:24.440
the past years, like the amount
of text devoted to like all right,

834
00:48:24.519 --> 00:48:30.159
here's how you unlock ship this year. It's basically the same, but there's

835
00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:34.360
a ton of minutia that is super
different and ultimately none of it actually matters,

836
00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:37.920
but it is It is worth noting. Did they dedicate anytime at the

837
00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:40.440
review event to their annual like,
well, it used to be eleape,

838
00:48:40.480 --> 00:48:43.760
but now it's going to be this
clan war thing or just this thing that

839
00:48:43.880 --> 00:48:45.000
no one really winds up doing anything
of an app. Yeah, they have

840
00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:49.760
a war. The clan war stuff
is in there, okay, And that's

841
00:48:49.800 --> 00:48:52.880
just all the stuff that came from
Elite basically and became free, right yeah,

842
00:48:52.119 --> 00:48:54.559
I think really, Oh my god, Yes, and I forgot about

843
00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:58.280
the existence of Call Duty Elite.
Yeah. I had a big deal out

844
00:48:58.280 --> 00:49:00.840
of that. Holy crap. Remember
the experience? Oh they did that.

845
00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:04.280
Yeah, I was gonna go to
that, but I got sick. I

846
00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:07.559
completely forgot about all of that.
The whole studio just was it beat.

847
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:10.559
They still do it still exists.
Who just working on this make gotta make

848
00:49:10.679 --> 00:49:14.159
maps and stuff? Yeah they do. Yeah, they have an app or

849
00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:17.239
whatever. You ever use that?
No what No, you can change your

850
00:49:17.239 --> 00:49:20.320
load out when you're in line with
the grocery still, so you can't do

851
00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:22.840
that. This year. Okay,
you can maps. Yeah, there's an

852
00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:25.400
emblem editor. Okay, so you
can make your emblement in the app now,

853
00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:30.239
okay, no, no, I'm
sorry. Feed Price. Yeah,

854
00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:34.239
Kevin Spacey, Kevin Spacey that just
wants to eat. Did you I don't

855
00:49:34.280 --> 00:49:37.159
know how studiously you look at the
credits or whatever, but did you get

856
00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:39.960
the sense this is like pretty much
a Sledgehammer joint? Like that was my

857
00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:45.000
impression going in. It's Sledgehammer,
Raven High Moon. Okay, whoa,

858
00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:49.599
yeah, okay, but those I
mean, I think those are somewhat support

859
00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:52.159
studios in general. Right. What
I mean is like Trey Arkin and Infinity

860
00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:54.800
Ward did not contribute to this in
anyway. I mean, you know,

861
00:49:55.119 --> 00:50:02.199
like they there are credits from those
teams on there. You know, I

862
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:07.559
think to some extent, there's probably
a roving crew that does little bits and

863
00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:09.519
pieces on every game where they get
credited because their work is being used on

864
00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:13.079
the next year's game, or you
know, I don't know how they how

865
00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:15.320
they determine that stuff. Yea,
this definitely seems like Condrey and Scofield's baby

866
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:19.199
from what I've seen. So I
was actually had sledge Hammer that was one

867
00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:22.000
of the last things they didn't Informer
was the cover reveal, this drop all

868
00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:23.639
these names. No, I mean
those guys like that, this is their

869
00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:27.760
thing. They're super excited to be
able to like finally because it because they

870
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:30.920
worked on Modern Wark for three and
they were just the kind they kind of

871
00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:32.800
came in to close it out.
That's kind of why I wanted to drill

872
00:50:32.840 --> 00:50:37.639
down on the issue who actually made
this game, because the sledge Hammer logo

873
00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:40.960
is big the front and you know
it's Activision Sledgehammer Call of Duty specifically because

874
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:45.440
like you know, like Schofield had
left because he ran the studio that made

875
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:49.800
dead Space, which was like fantastic
debut. Ye sound guy is from dead

876
00:50:49.840 --> 00:50:52.079
Space, like and there's a ton
at the dead Space. So that was

877
00:50:52.159 --> 00:50:53.519
kind of the thing, is that
there was a sort of exodus of talent

878
00:50:53.639 --> 00:50:58.079
from the team that created dead Space, Yeah, to form sledge Hammer like

879
00:50:58.320 --> 00:51:02.320
years ago, like ages ago,
right, and then they never they they

880
00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:06.119
game themselves. They made that move
right as Infinity Ward was blump. That's

881
00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:09.519
what I'm saying. They basically got
presumably they got subsumed into the Call of

882
00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:15.480
Duty machine because they had to help
finish three. But then they extricated themselves

883
00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:16.559
from that. This is their full
game. That's why I'm saying this is

884
00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:20.119
notable because it's finally there. But
I mean, you like, it's one

885
00:51:20.119 --> 00:51:22.400
of those things where it's like you
talk about like, oh, this is

886
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:24.679
their baby. It's a call of
duty game, like it's it's it's Bobby

887
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:29.679
Kodix baby, like they like,
you know, they're they're not like right,

888
00:51:29.800 --> 00:51:31.599
like they're putting their stamp on it, and it's different in some ways,

889
00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:36.199
but like, dude, it's the
melee range is a little bit different,

890
00:51:36.280 --> 00:51:37.800
like that's that's my baby, Like, no, it's it's not,

891
00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:42.039
you know, it's a call of
duty game. It seems like they definitely

892
00:51:42.079 --> 00:51:44.920
had a vision for what they wanted
this to be, and from everything I've

893
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:45.840
heard, it's like this, this
is the game they wanted to make,

894
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:49.760
but obviously they can't just go crazy
with it. Originally it was gonna be

895
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:52.280
a third person yeah, and the
tunnels and stuff. No, I mean

896
00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:54.639
they've admitted to it like that that
is what it was, and they had

897
00:51:54.679 --> 00:51:58.360
it running. They had like an
hour demo or something. You have to

898
00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:00.719
assume at that point. And what
I mean is the rumors were that it

899
00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:01.840
was not a core call of duty
game at that time. It was gonna

900
00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:05.599
be this weird spin off, some
kind of another game Kim or what war

901
00:52:05.679 --> 00:52:08.320
it was in. I think it
was in like Vietnam or something. Yeah,

902
00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:10.599
I think it was Vietnam and tunnels
third person. It was gonna be

903
00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:14.039
more of a Dead Space style thing. Wow. And then it just became

904
00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:15.320
like, well, no, we're
gonna do this three studio system and you're

905
00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:19.039
gonna make the next you know,
real ask call it duty. So yeah,

906
00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:22.920
how long can it go on?
I don't know. I'm really curious

907
00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:30.000
to see what this like sales stuff
coming in. I mean, ghosts really

908
00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:35.480
put a put a damper on things, I think. So I don't know

909
00:52:35.599 --> 00:52:37.199
how this will do. You know, I think word of mouth will probably

910
00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:39.880
be pretty good. Yeah, because
you know, the all three aspects of

911
00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:44.239
it, the car, the multiplayer, the survival co op mode. It's

912
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:47.519
pretty good. I think word of
mouth will do all right. But I

913
00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:51.480
think a lot of damage has been
done over the past couple of years.

914
00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:54.519
Yeah, I mean the numbers have
been have been dropping, sure, I

915
00:52:54.599 --> 00:52:57.519
think, but I think this is
the best game they've made in a while.

916
00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:00.119
And for what that's worth, you
know, yeah, you know,

917
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:02.880
I'm sure that's worth a good bit. But at the same time, like

918
00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:07.119
even if Ghosts was like a especially
poor showing for them, like even at

919
00:53:07.159 --> 00:53:10.719
its best, like nothing stays the
most popular thing in the world forever exactly,

920
00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:15.920
and you know about Ghosts, but
it's like it's totally serviceable. Yeah,

921
00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:19.760
Like it's not like ass it's you
know, it's like here's a here's

922
00:53:19.760 --> 00:53:23.800
a Call of Duty game that doesn't
really do uh, you know, doesn't

923
00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:29.880
really take enough risks. Yeah,
basically, So yeah, I don't know,

924
00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:34.800
it's hard to to kind of look
and figure, you know, well,

925
00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:36.519
what does this mean for the future
of the franchise. Like, I

926
00:53:36.599 --> 00:53:38.519
don't think I'm buying large. I
don't think the general buying public gives a

927
00:53:38.559 --> 00:53:45.119
fuck about who makes Call of Duty. It's more about what each individual studio

928
00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:47.360
can bring to right, Yeah,
And I think that's that's one of the

929
00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:51.639
things that I think is maybe confusing
to the average consumer as well, where

930
00:53:51.679 --> 00:53:53.280
it's just like this year, you're
getting this type of thing, and and

931
00:53:53.320 --> 00:53:57.480
these things that could be in the
game just aren't here for no really great

932
00:53:57.519 --> 00:54:00.800
reason, and or they've been placed
by this you know, like that I

933
00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:05.920
think that stuff is super weird.
What's really gonna be weird is next year

934
00:54:05.960 --> 00:54:07.599
when it's trail Ors Turn again.
Right, if you get a game that

935
00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:12.559
feels like it is a logical follow
up to Black Ops two. I'm not

936
00:54:12.599 --> 00:54:15.360
saying that's gonna happen, it probably. I mean, I'm sure that there

937
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:20.159
is some collaborative kind of design stuff
going on between studios, right effort,

938
00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:22.639
Yes, some effort from the topic. It'll be it'll be the you know,

939
00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:24.400
yeah, it'll be the people that
brought you Black Ops to bring you

940
00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:28.800
the next Call of Duty games again. Yes, like we were saying before,

941
00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:30.760
like they've done the most interesting and
ambitious stuff with the campaign in years.

942
00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:35.039
Right, so if they continue those
concepts when the other two studios didn't,

943
00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:36.559
you know, like, it's just
going to kind of be this weird

944
00:54:36.639 --> 00:54:40.760
inconsistent thing. Yeah. Yeah,
inconsistency bothers me in this case. But

945
00:54:42.119 --> 00:54:45.360
you know, this has left me
curious to at least see what happens next.

946
00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:51.480
But but yeah, like the mobility
stuff is huge, and I think

947
00:54:51.519 --> 00:54:57.360
we've been I feel like, you
know, games like Titan Fall an Advanced

948
00:54:57.360 --> 00:55:00.719
Warfare, I've kind of pushed this
in this direction. For higher speed stuff.

949
00:55:00.719 --> 00:55:02.639
There's nothing high speed about Destiny.
You've got you've got a jet pack?

950
00:55:02.880 --> 00:55:06.440
Yeah, no, I but it's
like a boost. It's a slow

951
00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:10.320
still a jet pack. Destiny is
the most sluggish, slow thing in the

952
00:55:10.360 --> 00:55:14.960
world compared to advanced Warfare. I
actually went and played a little Destiny last

953
00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:20.679
night after playing a weekend of our
four Days of Call of Duty, and

954
00:55:20.760 --> 00:55:23.079
I was just like, fuck,
yeah, no, that's understandable. Halo

955
00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:29.000
was always pretty plotting, and yep, that's just coming the thinking man's shooter.

956
00:55:29.239 --> 00:55:32.599
Yeah. Yeah, I've burned out
on Destiny pretty hard in the last

957
00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:36.599
week or so, in the last
month or two, you know, do

958
00:55:36.760 --> 00:55:39.800
all the content in the game or
so much left to do? You have

959
00:55:39.920 --> 00:55:47.760
time to play anything else? Hm
hmm. Now I've been pretty focused on

960
00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:52.239
that. I messed around with the
Halo master Chief collection a little bit.

961
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:55.760
Yeah, I very briefly fired that
up. Yeah, it's uh, we

962
00:55:57.079 --> 00:56:00.679
are able to talk about just a
small portion of it. But yeah,

963
00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:07.480
I don't know. I played the
first mission of Halo one. Yeah you

964
00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:12.000
like Halo. Yeah, it's Halo's
pretty good. Okay, and then you

965
00:56:12.039 --> 00:56:14.480
should get the one. You should
probably get the game that has all four

966
00:56:14.519 --> 00:56:17.519
Halos in it. Like that's That's
the weird thing about covering that thing is

967
00:56:17.559 --> 00:56:21.719
that, like pretty much every person
already knows in their heart if they want

968
00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:24.400
to play old Halo games get anymore
totally or not. Yeah, I just

969
00:56:24.519 --> 00:56:28.440
want to see how well they did
Halo. Yeah, that's that's the big

970
00:56:28.519 --> 00:56:31.519
question. Answer about the the gameplay
stuff. Yeah, But the other big

971
00:56:31.559 --> 00:56:34.800
thing is, you know the glue
that holds all that stuff together, the

972
00:56:35.719 --> 00:56:38.480
you know, the new additions to
campaign scoring and leaderboards and stuff like that.

973
00:56:38.599 --> 00:56:42.320
Yeah, that's stuff. Seems that
stuff seems really smart on campaign.

974
00:56:42.559 --> 00:56:46.280
There are four thousand achievement points in
that game. It's also that Jesus,

975
00:56:46.840 --> 00:56:50.400
there's a lot of CG and Halo
two. I don't know if you knew.

976
00:56:50.599 --> 00:56:53.039
Yeah, I saw one of those
right, yeah shit, I don't

977
00:56:53.039 --> 00:56:55.679
know if it's the mission we can
talk about from Halo two whatever. It

978
00:56:55.760 --> 00:57:00.199
was all done by Blur, right, which is like the studio that those

979
00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:06.440
CG Yep, yep, yep,
those guys. Yeah, I mean they

980
00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:09.039
you know, they did, uh
they did like those big old Republic trailers

981
00:57:09.079 --> 00:57:13.199
that were so big a D three
and like pretty much every big like sixty

982
00:57:13.239 --> 00:57:16.119
second CG trailer you see a D
three was probably done by Blur, and

983
00:57:16.559 --> 00:57:22.559
the talk about their rates is exorbitant. Yeah, and there's like an hour

984
00:57:22.719 --> 00:57:27.039
of it in this master Chief collection
in the Halo two remakes, So I

985
00:57:27.079 --> 00:57:30.480
don't know if they got like a
bulk rate yeah on the CG. Yeah,

986
00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:34.679
but it's nice looking CG. You
know, he's got money. Yeah,

987
00:57:34.719 --> 00:57:37.559
that's true. Yeah. Uh,
if you want to see some of

988
00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:42.679
the more dramatic moments of Halo two
rendered in incredible detail, and I do,

989
00:57:43.400 --> 00:57:45.679
I think you're gonna be happy with
that aspect of it. I'm really

990
00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:47.000
curious to see the multiplayer end of
it. Yeah, kind of how that

991
00:57:47.039 --> 00:57:51.440
stuff that's probably Yeah, I have
to imagine for the super fans like Drew,

992
00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:52.760
that's probably the thing that you care
about the most. Yes, it

993
00:57:52.880 --> 00:57:57.000
is, and at the time of
this recording, that stuff is still not

994
00:57:57.159 --> 00:58:01.079
in there, right, Yeah,
it's coming probably by the time you're listening.

995
00:58:01.280 --> 00:58:05.199
Time you hear this, that'll be
passionate game that sounds like. But

996
00:58:05.360 --> 00:58:07.159
yeah, it's a you know,
whatever, game's not out until the eleventh

997
00:58:07.760 --> 00:58:12.960
whatever it is. We can't comment
yet. It's uh, yeah, I

998
00:58:13.000 --> 00:58:15.760
don't know that it's an interesting thing. I think the shell and stuff is

999
00:58:15.400 --> 00:58:20.119
nice. There's just it's a whole
lot of Halo. I don't know it's

1000
00:58:20.159 --> 00:58:23.880
true. I should be real sick
of Halo by now, I'm not.

1001
00:58:24.079 --> 00:58:27.159
Somebody like, I think we were
just talking to the office or something.

1002
00:58:27.239 --> 00:58:29.679
Right after Extra Life, when you
guys had spent the better part of twenty

1003
00:58:29.719 --> 00:58:32.159
four hours playing Halo. Somebody asking
you in regard to this thing, like

1004
00:58:32.199 --> 00:58:35.280
are you ready to play a bunch
more Halo? And you're like, yeah,

1005
00:58:35.360 --> 00:58:40.039
kind of dude, you're a madman. Yeah, it's it's mostly the

1006
00:58:40.199 --> 00:58:45.000
nostalgia factor. Do you wish you
would have this for Extra Life? Were

1007
00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:47.840
you glad you played them all in
they're more or less original form? I'm

1008
00:58:47.960 --> 00:58:52.960
glad. I'm glad I had some
distance between. Like I'm glad two years

1009
00:58:53.000 --> 00:58:57.199
ago is the time I played through
most of what's in here. Okay,

1010
00:58:57.320 --> 00:59:00.800
you know that's fair. Like playing
this again for twenty four hours, I

1011
00:59:00.840 --> 00:59:05.440
think it'd be rough. Yeah,
but I want to. Yeah, I

1012
00:59:05.559 --> 00:59:07.000
would totally. I think the first
thing I would do well, The first

1013
00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:13.000
thing I would do is load up
Blood Gulch multiplayer Halo one and try to

1014
00:59:13.000 --> 00:59:15.639
smash two war hugs into each other, and if they fla off of each

1015
00:59:15.679 --> 00:59:17.440
other in weird directions, then I
know we're good. If they just crashed

1016
00:59:17.480 --> 00:59:22.400
into each other, then no sales
back into the store. Throw it at

1017
00:59:22.400 --> 00:59:27.719
the clerk. Gun take that,
except you bought the digital version, so

1018
00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:30.199
you just have to throw your Xbox
at him. Yeah, more damage.

1019
00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:32.320
Yeah, that's probably a lethal weapon. Yeah, and then I would play

1020
00:59:32.880 --> 00:59:36.960
probably kill somebody with an Xbox one. You'd kill somebody. Was just about

1021
00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:38.519
anything you try hard. Well.
Yes, have a video on my phone

1022
00:59:38.800 --> 00:59:44.840
of a game store employee having an
unruly customer thrown entire old three sixty at

1023
00:59:44.880 --> 00:59:46.559
his head and hitting him in the
face, blood involved, and then he

1024
00:59:46.679 --> 00:59:50.800
chases the guy. This is scaredy
camera footage from the game store. Who

1025
00:59:50.920 --> 00:59:53.960
chased whom it was a girl I
was dating. It was her ex boyfriend

1026
00:59:54.039 --> 00:59:57.559
who worked at a game store and
sent her these videos. Okay, and

1027
00:59:58.000 --> 00:59:59.719
he's the one that got hit in
the face. He got hit in the

1028
00:59:59.760 --> 01:00:04.079
face with the Xbox three sixty,
bleeding like crazy, and then chase the

1029
01:00:04.119 --> 01:00:06.639
kid out of the store, and
the camera outside of the store him punching

1030
01:00:06.679 --> 01:00:08.199
the kid on the ground. Okay, Nico okay, but yeah, like

1031
01:00:08.360 --> 01:00:10.440
the three sixty hits him in the
face, like I think, in the

1032
01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:15.159
mouth. Yeah, that seems that
seems unpleasant some sense. Yeah, I'll

1033
01:00:15.199 --> 01:00:16.760
show you the video aftercott. You
know, I feel like you painted a

1034
01:00:16.800 --> 01:00:21.360
word picture. I'm good. Uh, yeah, I don't know. And

1035
01:00:21.400 --> 01:00:24.519
then I downloaded Vulgar and yes,
I also loaded that up and died twice

1036
01:00:24.599 --> 01:00:29.320
when I man, fucking Vulgar?
Is it still? Is it still free

1037
01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:31.360
on Xbox? Yeah? Yeah for
the whole month. Get that. I

1038
01:00:31.400 --> 01:00:35.760
haven't played it. I just got
it. My game's fucking great. I

1039
01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:37.760
got through. I got to the
second level, one of the second like

1040
01:00:37.840 --> 01:00:43.639
you know, there's three levels,
a decent amount, okay, Like I

1041
01:00:43.760 --> 01:00:46.760
remembered that I could interrupt my jump
momentum with the spin like some of the

1042
01:00:46.960 --> 01:00:50.199
some of those slightly higher level stuff. I was like, okay, that's

1043
01:00:50.320 --> 01:00:52.719
how you do that. I don't
even know what style this is. Is

1044
01:00:52.760 --> 01:00:57.159
this like a Castlevania type It is
a well couple night it is ras Yes,

1045
01:00:57.320 --> 01:01:00.119
Rastan is the very most clear com
Harrison down to the way the guy

1046
01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:06.079
holds a sword. Yea. But
it is it is one a linear level

1047
01:01:06.159 --> 01:01:10.480
based like arcade style side scrolling action
game like sixteen bit style like that area.

1048
01:01:10.599 --> 01:01:14.719
Yeah, I guess that's about right
graphic wise. In fact, I

1049
01:01:14.760 --> 01:01:16.679
mean they didn't they made that fake
Genesis box art for this thing, right,

1050
01:01:16.840 --> 01:01:21.519
Yeah, so I think they're going
for sixteen better than a Genesis though,

1051
01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:23.320
Yes, for sure. But it's
like that, and it's just it's

1052
01:01:23.360 --> 01:01:29.480
just brutally balls out hard and it's
not as there's nothing randomized about it whatsoever,

1053
01:01:29.679 --> 01:01:32.360
like enemy placement, like behavior,
everything is something you can just you

1054
01:01:32.440 --> 01:01:36.559
just memorize your way through it.
Yeah, you memorize slash like learn to

1055
01:01:36.599 --> 01:01:40.800
sort of predict. And Yeah,
it's super satisfying, even though it's really

1056
01:01:40.840 --> 01:01:46.280
punishing. Highly highly recommend it,
especially at the low low press of free.

1057
01:01:46.400 --> 01:01:51.000
That's free if your Xbox Live Gold. The achievements are all fifty points

1058
01:01:51.039 --> 01:01:52.960
each. It's only twenty of them
on Xbox One. Yeah, it's just

1059
01:01:53.199 --> 01:01:58.360
Xbox One and did not come out
on three sixty if I'm not mistaken.

1060
01:01:59.239 --> 01:02:02.400
But you've a pinion of Trouble in
Paradise, Yeah on the three sixty,

1061
01:02:02.800 --> 01:02:06.039
man, I need to I need
to go get my disc free version of

1062
01:02:06.119 --> 01:02:08.079
that fast to get that. I
just have it with me at all time,

1063
01:02:08.239 --> 01:02:10.440
but in a moment's notice, you
never know we're gonna need it.

1064
01:02:10.639 --> 01:02:15.280
Yeah, although I kind of almost
feel like the PC version of the first

1065
01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:17.079
game is the best version to have. No, Yeah, you're probably right

1066
01:02:17.159 --> 01:02:22.719
for as long as that works.
Uh, but yeah, that's that's pretty

1067
01:02:22.760 --> 01:02:24.639
much all that I've messed with.
I've I have played a lot of Call

1068
01:02:24.679 --> 01:02:29.079
of Duty over the past couple of
weeks. Here, you're gonna keep going

1069
01:02:29.519 --> 01:02:34.039
precige, Yeah, I think I
might. Yeah. Uh so, Yeah,

1070
01:02:34.239 --> 01:02:37.400
the level cap is fifty. I'm
level twenty six or twenty seven right

1071
01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:42.880
now. Yeah, so it's kind
of it seems like it's the shortest ramp

1072
01:02:42.920 --> 01:02:45.639
they've had in a while in terms
of just like time to get through.

1073
01:02:45.679 --> 01:02:50.960
Also, it's like for their their
pre their pre day. Uh, there's

1074
01:02:51.039 --> 01:02:53.480
double Experience points. Yeah, you
don't have to go to buy any Mountain

1075
01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:57.920
Dew to get it up. See
you cash in stuff for XP you can

1076
01:02:59.320 --> 01:03:01.079
awesome. Yeah, they've they've done
that. Yeah, they did that.

1077
01:03:01.199 --> 01:03:04.840
I'm trying to think what was the
first game that they did the Mountain Dew,

1078
01:03:05.920 --> 01:03:07.800
Like, there's a code here that
you can get I'm I want to

1079
01:03:07.840 --> 01:03:14.000
say Modern Warfare three. I thought
it was before that that was black anyway.

1080
01:03:15.199 --> 01:03:16.360
I mean, like you earn a
gun or something and you say I

1081
01:03:16.400 --> 01:03:20.840
don't want that gun. You just
right, yeah, right, yeah,

1082
01:03:20.960 --> 01:03:22.480
that's yes, that is the first
time they've done that, Like the weird

1083
01:03:22.599 --> 01:03:28.280
custom guns and pants, right,
get a sick pair of Nigerian police pants

1084
01:03:28.360 --> 01:03:30.639
and then turned it into XP if
you want, turn it into numbers before

1085
01:03:30.719 --> 01:03:35.360
your pants expire. Yeah, yes, the pants. The pants don't expire.

1086
01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:38.360
Thet helmets expire. I've I've yet
to see a pair of expiring pants

1087
01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:44.000
thankfully. Maybe maybe your pants,
but some helmets. There's some helmets that

1088
01:03:44.039 --> 01:03:47.320
definitely expire, like all cosmetic lout
Like it's super weird system that they put

1089
01:03:47.360 --> 01:03:52.360
in there. It's like it's kind
of the Mass Effect three like case system,

1090
01:03:52.440 --> 01:03:54.840
but there's no micro transactions involved,
like just you'll just your randomly playing

1091
01:03:54.920 --> 01:03:58.679
and like on your first death in
a match, it'll just go like you

1092
01:03:58.719 --> 01:04:01.360
weren't a supply drop, and you'll
it'll be a case that you open up

1093
01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:04.960
and it's got a little opening animation
and then it feeds you guns and pants.

1094
01:04:05.280 --> 01:04:10.960
But are all the cosmetics expiring No, just some, just some,

1095
01:04:11.280 --> 01:04:14.559
and the ones that expire seem to
be ones you get their performance based.

1096
01:04:14.599 --> 01:04:16.559
I think so if you kill someone
while you're if you get the dog fight

1097
01:04:16.639 --> 01:04:20.320
metal, I think is what it
is, which is where you are both

1098
01:04:20.360 --> 01:04:27.519
in the air and you kill someone, which is satisfying to accomplish. Sure,

1099
01:04:28.039 --> 01:04:30.239
you get like a red baron looking
helmet you can wear for half an

1100
01:04:30.239 --> 01:04:34.760
hour. As someone who really enjoys
player model cosmetic items, I think I

1101
01:04:34.800 --> 01:04:38.679
would be really bummed out if I
had something I really liked and disappeared.

1102
01:04:39.199 --> 01:04:42.360
Yeah, so it's just been that
on one other helmet, and you know,

1103
01:04:42.559 --> 01:04:45.199
but all the pants and other stuff. I have helmets that don't expire,

1104
01:04:45.320 --> 01:04:46.519
and you know, it's just kind
of randomly get these items along the

1105
01:04:46.559 --> 01:04:49.760
way. The thing is, you
have a limited number of slots to store

1106
01:04:49.840 --> 01:04:55.239
this stuff in, and I guess
there are hundreds of weapon variants in there,

1107
01:04:56.400 --> 01:05:00.280
so you kind of have to turn
you have to dust them, mantled

1108
01:05:00.280 --> 01:05:05.039
them for XP at some point.
It's a weird system. Weird Yeah,

1109
01:05:05.480 --> 01:05:10.519
threw yo. Do you play video
games? Yeah? Have you played video

1110
01:05:10.559 --> 01:05:14.599
games? Yeah? What did you
play? I played one video game,

1111
01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:19.400
Stronghold Crusader too. I've been playing
that for for a quick click okay,

1112
01:05:20.480 --> 01:05:25.840
yo, that game is Stronghold.
I don't. I'm racking my brain back

1113
01:05:25.920 --> 01:05:29.880
up, I'm racking my brain trying
to remember what stronghold is. I can't

1114
01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:33.119
remember what stronghold is. You build
auld a stronghold, okay? Do you

1115
01:05:33.159 --> 01:05:38.960
build it in real time? Do
you take turns? Building it? Is?

1116
01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:44.119
It is real time? It is
a above like view from above overhead

1117
01:05:44.199 --> 01:05:49.039
view. I suppose it's an RTS, but it with a heavy bass building.

1118
01:05:49.280 --> 01:05:51.440
I think I remember it now.
I think what what through me was

1119
01:05:51.599 --> 01:05:56.920
that when you said Crusader, I
immediately thought of Crusader Kings. Oh,

1120
01:05:57.039 --> 01:06:00.239
yes, which is a very different, very different Yes. So stronghold came

1121
01:06:00.280 --> 01:06:04.679
out and then Stronghold Crusader came out
after that. I don't think it's German.

1122
01:06:04.679 --> 01:06:09.119
Why did I think that? Because
games like that are most often German?

1123
01:06:09.199 --> 01:06:13.960
Oh, I see, especially when
you consider the like economy aspect of

1124
01:06:14.039 --> 01:06:16.920
it, so like that's a very
heavy part of it too. Instead of

1125
01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:21.480
just like mining resources, you have
to make sure that you are you have

1126
01:06:21.599 --> 01:06:27.920
a woodcutter who's depositing wood at your
supply area, and then if you want

1127
01:06:27.920 --> 01:06:30.960
to make bows, you have to
have enough wood, you know, bows

1128
01:06:31.039 --> 01:06:35.039
for your archers, and then if
you make if you want to have more

1129
01:06:35.119 --> 01:06:41.679
people come to your area, which
means you want or you need people to

1130
01:06:41.760 --> 01:06:44.960
have an army, and you need
houses to have people. There are just

1131
01:06:45.039 --> 01:06:49.320
so many dependencies like that, but
they all make sense. It's not it's

1132
01:06:49.320 --> 01:06:56.320
not a complicated thing. The game, though, is really hard. I

1133
01:06:56.440 --> 01:07:00.880
haven't gotten past some of the tutorial
missions, but I'm really enjoying it.

1134
01:07:01.079 --> 01:07:09.920
Like the previous three D incarnations of
Stronghold, Stronghold two, Stronghold three have

1135
01:07:10.079 --> 01:07:13.480
not been very good, but this
one seems okay. Yes, I remember

1136
01:07:13.880 --> 01:07:15.159
Stronghold three not being well over.
Yeah, this is kind of like they're

1137
01:07:15.239 --> 01:07:19.320
they're back to our roots. Lets
people like yeah, and like everything like

1138
01:07:21.760 --> 01:07:25.599
telling dudes to like there used to
be a lot of bugs about like telling

1139
01:07:25.639 --> 01:07:28.760
a dude to go up onto a
wall and shoot arrows down like that didn't

1140
01:07:28.800 --> 01:07:31.400
work in some of the past games, and like, uh, you know,

1141
01:07:31.559 --> 01:07:36.599
drawing a you know, making your
castle wall like bridge between two other

1142
01:07:36.719 --> 01:07:41.840
walls like that was always buggy.
But it seems fine here. I'm I've

1143
01:07:41.920 --> 01:07:44.800
only played maybe two hours of it, but it seems all right, and

1144
01:07:44.800 --> 01:07:46.599
we're gonna do quick look of it
this week. Great. I'm enjoying it

1145
01:07:46.679 --> 01:07:51.440
greatly. Excellent. Cool. What
did I play? You play? Bred?

1146
01:07:53.719 --> 01:07:58.760
Sort of think what else I played
besides Okay, I guess this is

1147
01:07:58.760 --> 01:08:01.760
all I played. I put a
decent amount of time into Lords of the

1148
01:08:01.880 --> 01:08:09.320
Fallen, Oh, the Dark Souls
alike. Yeah, the Namco and City

1149
01:08:09.360 --> 01:08:14.920
Interactive have put out Deck thirteen.
I think it is the developer. Anybody

1150
01:08:15.440 --> 01:08:17.039
ring any bells? Nope, it's
that U team app right, Yep,

1151
01:08:17.159 --> 01:08:21.640
that's the one. Yeah, that's
where the mister Sith Theater guys lived.

1152
01:08:26.399 --> 01:08:30.159
Uh. It is alarming how much
that game is like Dark Souls. Like

1153
01:08:30.359 --> 01:08:32.880
I knew going in, they didn't
really you know, they weren't really making

1154
01:08:32.880 --> 01:08:35.760
any bones about it. Yeah,
but when you really, like just when

1155
01:08:35.760 --> 01:08:41.000
you get your hands on it,
would you engage with the controls? It

1156
01:08:41.199 --> 01:08:47.359
is right there, Like every single
function on that controller is basically exactly how

1157
01:08:47.439 --> 01:08:50.199
Dark Souls plays. So, but
it seems we have a quick look on

1158
01:08:50.279 --> 01:08:54.000
the site, Yeah, with Vinnie
and Alex. I kind of want to

1159
01:08:54.039 --> 01:08:56.800
watch that just to see what Vinnie
thinks of it. Yeah. I only

1160
01:08:56.960 --> 01:09:00.640
really skipped around just to see like
the the U and stuff. But it

1161
01:09:00.680 --> 01:09:04.159
seems like they took dark souls and
we're like, Okay, this is weird

1162
01:09:04.319 --> 01:09:09.520
and obfuscated. Why don't we just
make it clear? The UI is is

1163
01:09:09.600 --> 01:09:12.399
not at all the same. It's
way better and more streamlined. I'm not

1164
01:09:12.520 --> 01:09:15.520
I haven't played it, but from
what I saw, I don't I'm not

1165
01:09:15.640 --> 01:09:18.840
sure the word the phrase dumbed down
would be accurate. Yeah, but more

1166
01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:24.800
straightforward. It's definitely that. Yeah, there's some stuff about it that's still

1167
01:09:24.840 --> 01:09:28.479
not super clear, but you basically
know how to play it if you know

1168
01:09:28.520 --> 01:09:30.159
how to play video games. Okay. Does that carry over to the items

1169
01:09:30.239 --> 01:09:32.640
or is it just like, oh, I got a fragrant branch of your

1170
01:09:32.840 --> 01:09:36.680
like I have no idea what the
items like, the stuff like consumables like.

1171
01:09:36.720 --> 01:09:41.479
They the descriptions straight up say what
they do. Okay, goods in

1172
01:09:41.680 --> 01:09:44.920
very clear, in very clear language. Although some of the some of the

1173
01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:47.319
writing, especially at the flavor text
is is very awkward, sounds like it

1174
01:09:47.399 --> 01:09:51.520
was written by a non native English
speaker. But it's it's really it's just

1175
01:09:51.560 --> 01:09:56.279
the running around in the world.
It's the playing of the game that is.

1176
01:09:56.359 --> 01:10:00.600
Like, it's it's odd because before
now nobody had really made like I

1177
01:10:00.119 --> 01:10:03.520
hesitate to use the phrase Dark Souls
clone, sure, but it kind of

1178
01:10:03.560 --> 01:10:08.319
feels like that. So to see
it done just one to one where literally

1179
01:10:08.399 --> 01:10:11.880
every button is basically doing everything exactly
the same thing, is that? Is

1180
01:10:11.920 --> 01:10:15.000
that weird? Is that kind of
It's not bad? It is weird.

1181
01:10:15.800 --> 01:10:17.680
Like you click in the right stick
to target a guy and if you hit

1182
01:10:17.840 --> 01:10:20.399
R one it's your light attack,
but if you hit forward and R one

1183
01:10:20.439 --> 01:10:27.079
you kick. Okay, all the
little minutia is there down to like you

1184
01:10:27.119 --> 01:10:31.359
know, triangle or why changes your
stance between like shield and one hander or

1185
01:10:31.399 --> 01:10:35.159
two hander and stuff like that.
Like it's just the systems are just right

1186
01:10:35.239 --> 01:10:41.159
there. But it's a lot easier
than than Dark Souls. Like I've beaten

1187
01:10:41.159 --> 01:10:43.159
the first two bosses, beating both
on the first try, you know,

1188
01:10:43.640 --> 01:10:45.560
sure, I don't know. I
mean, looking at the trophies, there's

1189
01:10:45.600 --> 01:10:46.920
quite a few bosses, so maybe
they get tough at some point. Is

1190
01:10:46.960 --> 01:10:49.199
it the sort of thing where you're
being that stuff on its first try because

1191
01:10:49.199 --> 01:10:53.239
you played a lot of Dark Souls
and are you are ready for a harder

1192
01:10:53.319 --> 01:10:57.199
game or could someone who didn't play
Dark Souls get into this and have it

1193
01:10:57.279 --> 01:11:00.560
make sense? It's hard to imagine
anybody who plays a lot of games having

1194
01:11:00.600 --> 01:11:02.319
a whole lot of trouble with it. Yeah, it's it's pretty forgiving.

1195
01:11:02.600 --> 01:11:05.560
Is the health system the same as
far as like bonfires, Yeah, for

1196
01:11:05.680 --> 01:11:09.840
your maximum goes down, there is
an equivalent of bonfires, and you have

1197
01:11:09.880 --> 01:11:12.960
an equivalent of vestus flasks and human
effigies and stuff when you go No,

1198
01:11:13.279 --> 01:11:17.479
they don't get that esoteric with some
of the the mechanics, but you know,

1199
01:11:17.720 --> 01:11:20.079
you you use there a lotment of
health potions and when you go to

1200
01:11:20.119 --> 01:11:24.520
a checkpoint, it's like a it's
like a blood crystal or something instead of

1201
01:11:24.520 --> 01:11:27.159
a bonfire. But when you hit
a when you hit a checkpoint, you

1202
01:11:27.239 --> 01:11:30.720
get all your healing potions back,
and uh, the enemies respond, it

1203
01:11:30.880 --> 01:11:34.439
is it is that there There There
are a couple of interesting twists on some

1204
01:11:34.560 --> 01:11:40.000
of that stuff. So the concept
of dying and having a blood stain that

1205
01:11:40.039 --> 01:11:44.079
you run back to to get your
experience back is still there, but your

1206
01:11:44.119 --> 01:11:46.520
experience starts degrading over time the longer
it takes you to get back to the

1207
01:11:46.520 --> 01:11:49.520
blood stain. Wow, so that's
different. You can't just oh weird,

1208
01:11:49.600 --> 01:11:51.720
you can't just muck around in the
world as long as you want. After

1209
01:11:51.760 --> 01:11:55.079
you die, if you want to
go get all that xpedback like it'll there's

1210
01:11:55.079 --> 01:11:58.119
a little counter with a percentage and
and a total at the bottom that starts

1211
01:11:58.159 --> 01:12:00.079
taking down after you die and respond, and so you kind of have to

1212
01:12:00.119 --> 01:12:03.159
book past enemies in some cases.
If you want to get all your your

1213
01:12:03.199 --> 01:12:10.560
stuff back, there's a there's another
interesting concept. If I got I think

1214
01:12:10.560 --> 01:12:14.319
I've got this right. So when
dark souls, you go to a bonfire,

1215
01:12:14.359 --> 01:12:15.720
you rest, you get all your
healing, you know, the ESTs

1216
01:12:15.760 --> 01:12:18.800
flasks back, and all the enemies
respond. Like that's it. In this

1217
01:12:19.119 --> 01:12:23.960
you can go to one of the
checkpoints, get all the potions and stuff

1218
01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:28.399
back, getting freefill your health without
responding all the enemies. Is that just

1219
01:12:28.479 --> 01:12:30.479
an option every time you go there? Well, no, no, So

1220
01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:32.239
so you can do all that and
then keep going on. It's you know,

1221
01:12:32.319 --> 01:12:35.720
it seems like it's just kind of
a a way to make the game

1222
01:12:35.760 --> 01:12:40.319
a little more forgiving. You don't
actually respond all the enemies until you bank

1223
01:12:40.359 --> 01:12:45.279
your experience points in the checkpoint,
so you basically have like you have what

1224
01:12:45.800 --> 01:12:49.439
amounts to souls, But if you
don't convert those into either spell points that

1225
01:12:49.479 --> 01:12:53.319
you get your magic with or attribute
points that you would just you know,

1226
01:12:53.399 --> 01:12:56.640
rank up in like strength or endurance
or whatever. The enemies won't come back,

1227
01:12:57.199 --> 01:13:00.359
so you can run around. Oh
and I'm sorry. The aspect that

1228
01:13:00.399 --> 01:13:03.239
I forgot to mention is that the
longer you go without banking your your souls

1229
01:13:03.359 --> 01:13:08.760
or keep using Darshal's terms, but
your XPE, the more you build up

1230
01:13:08.800 --> 01:13:14.319
this multiplier that increases the XP you're
getting from enemies, yeah, and increases

1231
01:13:14.359 --> 01:13:16.039
the drop rates of like loot that
they'll drop. It's just risky though,

1232
01:13:16.079 --> 01:13:19.680
because you're not banking him at this
blood crystal thing, right, but you

1233
01:13:19.760 --> 01:13:23.439
can still more or less if you
die anywhere near a checkpoint, you can

1234
01:13:23.439 --> 01:13:25.399
still kind of haul ass and just
get back there and get him again.

1235
01:13:26.359 --> 01:13:29.159
But you see the multiplier, like
basically every enemy you kill, the multiplayer

1236
01:13:29.199 --> 01:13:30.920
goes up, you know, to
the point where you like, you're killing

1237
01:13:30.960 --> 01:13:32.720
guys and it'll be like, you
know, you get x amount of experience

1238
01:13:32.800 --> 01:13:36.039
one point three x multiplier or whatever. It'll show you how much of a

1239
01:13:36.039 --> 01:13:39.119
boost you're getting every time you kill
an enemy. Yeah, if you if

1240
01:13:39.119 --> 01:13:45.279
you've got a good multiplayer multiplier,
yeah, going and you die. Does

1241
01:13:45.359 --> 01:13:46.680
that get wiped down? Yeah,
you lose the multiplier anytime you go to

1242
01:13:46.680 --> 01:13:48.960
a check if you go pick it
up or or go pick up your thing.

1243
01:13:49.039 --> 01:13:51.319
Yeah, when you respond at a
checkpoint, you lose the multiplayer.

1244
01:13:51.439 --> 01:13:56.079
Does it have the concept of invasions
and stuff. I don't know there's anything

1245
01:13:56.159 --> 01:13:58.119
like that. I haven't seen anything
like them at all. I think it's

1246
01:13:58.159 --> 01:14:01.000
just single player. It's it's fun, like it's a it's just kind of

1247
01:14:01.039 --> 01:14:05.279
a more lighthearted sort of Dark Souls
the type experience. Like if you if

1248
01:14:05.319 --> 01:14:08.800
you like playing that type of game, like, you probably enjoy it,

1249
01:14:08.880 --> 01:14:12.640
although it'll be light hard to like
trying to be funny. Just the story

1250
01:14:12.640 --> 01:14:15.880
writer and like not as difficult the
story. The story is kind of like

1251
01:14:15.960 --> 01:14:20.520
typical like Grim Dark Fantasy PAP basically. Like in fact, playing this makes

1252
01:14:20.560 --> 01:14:27.319
me appreciate how much I miss the
kind of the ambient and the really obscure

1253
01:14:27.399 --> 01:14:30.840
storytelling techniques in the Dark Souls games. Like in those games, all of

1254
01:14:30.880 --> 01:14:34.439
the lord they sprinkle around kind of
just builds up a mystique and kind of

1255
01:14:34.479 --> 01:14:36.800
makes you wonder, like what the
hell is going on? You know,

1256
01:14:36.840 --> 01:14:40.520
It's like I want to know more
about this world, even though like it's

1257
01:14:40.600 --> 01:14:43.640
kind of those games are impenetrable without
like YouTube lore guides, you know,

1258
01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:45.520
so like I'm never gonna sit there
and watch all those videos, but I

1259
01:14:45.600 --> 01:14:50.039
still enjoy like steeping myself in the
mystery of the world, if that makes

1260
01:14:50.079 --> 01:14:53.079
sense, you know what I mean, Like, it's it's cool to be

1261
01:14:53.199 --> 01:14:56.640
there and kind of not get the
whole picture, but feel like there's a

1262
01:14:56.640 --> 01:14:59.479
bunch out there to be discovered in
a game like this. I'm just like

1263
01:14:59.520 --> 01:15:02.079
practically buttoning through the dialogue and wanting
to just get back to the running around

1264
01:15:02.119 --> 01:15:05.560
killing guys and finding Lute and stuff. Is the killing. It's fine.

1265
01:15:05.800 --> 01:15:09.720
I mean, it plays exactly like
you think it does if you've ever played

1266
01:15:10.159 --> 01:15:14.000
the Souls games, Like, it's
again kind of remarkable how much it feels

1267
01:15:14.039 --> 01:15:19.199
like that better than a bad facsimile. Yeah, yeah, I mean again,

1268
01:15:19.239 --> 01:15:21.880
I'm not saying the game is nearly
as good because it's weaker in some

1269
01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:27.319
other aspects. It's kind of a
dog on the consoles playing it on the

1270
01:15:27.359 --> 01:15:30.199
PS four, and the performance is
bad, and there's a bunch of weird

1271
01:15:30.239 --> 01:15:33.760
little like graphical glitches all over the
place, like stuff effects popping in and

1272
01:15:33.840 --> 01:15:36.159
out and things like that, and
I've had a crash on me and stuff.

1273
01:15:36.479 --> 01:15:42.399
It sounds like the Xbox version is
not great either, and it's kind

1274
01:15:42.399 --> 01:15:45.239
of weird with Blood Born coming out
in a few months. Sure, but

1275
01:15:45.520 --> 01:15:47.920
you know, if you're desperate for
that kind of game like this is,

1276
01:15:48.079 --> 01:15:51.279
you know you probably do worse,
then give this a shot. I'd be

1277
01:15:51.359 --> 01:15:55.640
curious to know somebody who like played
Dark Souls and didn't like it if they

1278
01:15:55.720 --> 01:15:59.560
got into this and found it more
enjoyable or not. Right. Yeah,

1279
01:16:00.479 --> 01:16:02.319
but I don't know if it's really
aimed at that kind of person. So

1280
01:16:03.159 --> 01:16:06.039
I don't know if we will get
that perspective. Dann, go play that

1281
01:16:06.119 --> 01:16:09.920
game. I'd like to. Okay, I liked you like Dark Souls?

1282
01:16:10.680 --> 01:16:13.359
I mean just two? Did you
never played one? One? R damn

1283
01:16:13.439 --> 01:16:15.319
Souls? Now? So yeah,
I finally jumped down with two and it's

1284
01:16:15.359 --> 01:16:19.119
really good. Did you how much
of that did you play? Twenty twenty

1285
01:16:19.159 --> 01:16:25.079
five hours? That's where you got
to No, No, I didn't beat

1286
01:16:25.119 --> 01:16:27.319
it. I know that. I
still kind of want to get back to

1287
01:16:27.359 --> 01:16:29.720
it. It's a long game.
Yeah. Actually, if anything, playing

1288
01:16:29.760 --> 01:16:31.319
this game is kind of just making
me want to go finally play Dark Souls

1289
01:16:31.359 --> 01:16:34.439
two on PC. Oh, it's
great one. Yeah. I saw it,

1290
01:16:34.520 --> 01:16:38.039
you know when it came out,
and it was obviously a pretty solid

1291
01:16:38.119 --> 01:16:41.680
port. I just never really got
around to it. But part of me

1292
01:16:41.720 --> 01:16:44.920
thinks I'm gonna put down Lords the
Fallen and just played Dark Souls instead for

1293
01:16:45.079 --> 01:16:50.119
for Game of the Year stuff.
So which baby just as well? Sure,

1294
01:16:51.479 --> 01:16:57.079
all right, most anybody's got any
other issues to bring to the table.

1295
01:16:59.319 --> 01:17:04.279
Nay, all right, the nays
have it. The news, let's

1296
01:17:04.319 --> 01:17:09.119
talk about it. Yeah, Okay, get excited at for the news because

1297
01:17:09.159 --> 01:17:12.039
there is some look at my face, man, Yeah, we get excited

1298
01:17:12.079 --> 01:17:15.119
on him about this news. Bryan, your teeth together, we see your

1299
01:17:15.159 --> 01:17:21.239
news face. It's a grim richtys
in here. Take it from me.

1300
01:17:23.560 --> 01:17:27.239
Uh. It has perhaps not been
the best week to be sonny. I

1301
01:17:27.279 --> 01:17:31.119
would say. Oh, they put
out the PlayStation four version two point of

1302
01:17:31.239 --> 01:17:36.119
firmware lasts Tuesday, I believe it
was, yeah, a week ago today.

1303
01:17:36.279 --> 01:17:41.279
Yeah, code named massa mune m
It's been kind of a bubby ride.

1304
01:17:41.399 --> 01:17:44.800
Yeah, with that thing. The
biggest problem that people are having,

1305
01:17:45.000 --> 01:17:47.840
which initially sounded even more dire to
me than it turned out to be is

1306
01:17:47.960 --> 01:17:53.039
that if you put your system into
stand by, which is now known as

1307
01:17:53.119 --> 01:17:55.920
rest mode for some reason. I
don't know why they felt the need to

1308
01:17:56.000 --> 01:17:59.960
rename that, because it's it won't
turn on for the rest of its life.

1309
01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:03.479
I guess it's damn Yeah, it's
a lot of people are having the

1310
01:18:03.560 --> 01:18:06.840
system going to rest mode and then
refuse to wake up. That's not good.

1311
01:18:08.159 --> 01:18:11.079
Yeah, it's it's just tired.
It's really tired. I guess you

1312
01:18:11.159 --> 01:18:14.920
know, this thing really needs to
it's not a rest Just get forty winks

1313
01:18:15.079 --> 01:18:17.319
in that thing. Yeah, they're
saying you need to hold down the power

1314
01:18:17.399 --> 01:18:20.239
button. Yeah, so that's to
force power it all the way down,

1315
01:18:20.359 --> 01:18:23.199
right, which is you know,
I've had to do that before, just

1316
01:18:23.239 --> 01:18:26.399
when the system walked up and stuff
like. It's not it's not unheard of

1317
01:18:26.760 --> 01:18:29.479
for that to be required. I
originally, the way this was being phrased,

1318
01:18:29.920 --> 01:18:32.880
thought that people were bricking their machines
like it would never turn back on.

1319
01:18:33.439 --> 01:18:36.279
When this happened, I thought,
I saw some people say that that

1320
01:18:36.479 --> 01:18:41.000
that has happened to them, But
it doesn't seem like that's the prevalent.

1321
01:18:41.800 --> 01:18:44.920
Yeah, it's the issue. Seems
like just doing this this uh kind of

1322
01:18:45.000 --> 01:18:48.800
forced reboot will fix the issue,
but still like on the scale, this

1323
01:18:48.840 --> 01:18:51.199
seems to be happening. It really
makes you wonder like how it got out

1324
01:18:51.239 --> 01:18:54.399
the door like this. Yeah,
and then it's you know, there are

1325
01:18:54.520 --> 01:18:59.199
games that are having you know this
this Evolve alpha that was was going on

1326
01:18:59.359 --> 01:19:02.760
last weekend, like they ended up
basically booting the PS four version off some

1327
01:19:02.960 --> 01:19:06.920
time. It eventually did come out. I think it just came out Monday

1328
01:19:08.039 --> 01:19:12.760
morning. Yeah, I think you're
right, and it's ending Tuesday. So

1329
01:19:13.079 --> 01:19:15.760
but it's a yeah, that's the
thing where you know, they had to

1330
01:19:15.760 --> 01:19:17.159
get out there and say like hey, because the firmware, this alpha broke,

1331
01:19:17.600 --> 01:19:20.000
we're working on it. We're talking
to Sony. I don't know.

1332
01:19:20.880 --> 01:19:25.399
I believe you said a certain review
game that I won't name, came with

1333
01:19:25.479 --> 01:19:28.640
a note about the PlayStation firm It
was a thing where they sent out PS

1334
01:19:28.720 --> 01:19:31.159
four discs for an upcoming game and
then like the next day we're like,

1335
01:19:31.239 --> 01:19:38.239
so Xbox one versions of the mail
this one's fucked up. We're working on

1336
01:19:38.359 --> 01:19:42.039
it. So there's like just I
mean I imagine that that stuff will get

1337
01:19:42.720 --> 01:19:45.720
ironed out, either on the game
end or on the firmware end before the

1338
01:19:45.760 --> 01:19:48.880
game is out, so it's kind
of non important really at this point,

1339
01:19:49.039 --> 01:19:53.279
I guess so, but in that
particular games case, Yeah, but yeah,

1340
01:19:53.359 --> 01:19:56.800
it just seems like there are you
know, you were saying Destiny,

1341
01:19:58.000 --> 01:20:00.920
I know, John Carlos was saying
that, like these been getting kicked off

1342
01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:04.119
of Destiny constantly since that update hit. Really, Yeah, I had an

1343
01:20:04.159 --> 01:20:09.760
issue where the system sound stopped playing, like I was getting trophies and Lords

1344
01:20:09.760 --> 01:20:12.239
of the Fallen and it was not
playing the trophy sound when it was happening.

1345
01:20:12.359 --> 01:20:14.880
Yeah, stuff like that. Yeah, I had some. So I've

1346
01:20:14.920 --> 01:20:16.680
had the little weird things, but
it's it's hard to know. Like some

1347
01:20:16.840 --> 01:20:19.039
you know, like I'm playing Call
of Duty before it's out and there's something

1348
01:20:19.039 --> 01:20:24.319
where he's like is that the game
or the firmware? But then you know,

1349
01:20:24.439 --> 01:20:27.880
once the game hit, I was, Okay, that's fine. Yeah,

1350
01:20:28.159 --> 01:20:30.079
I mean, it's you know,
it's not hard to imagine there will

1351
01:20:30.079 --> 01:20:31.600
be a two point oh one in
the near future that hopefully, Yeah,

1352
01:20:31.600 --> 01:20:36.560
and I guess some they also,
I believe they like yet again pushed the

1353
01:20:38.000 --> 01:20:41.920
PlayStation Plus version of Drive Club off, this time saying like, oh the

1354
01:20:42.039 --> 01:20:45.319
firmware, yeah, because because regular
Drive Club, by the way, is

1355
01:20:45.359 --> 01:20:48.039
still not functional. Well so you
can play. Yes, you're right,

1356
01:20:48.439 --> 01:20:51.359
there are aspects of that game that
don't work. Like the last time I

1357
01:20:51.399 --> 01:20:56.359
put a disc in was last week
and the challenge system was still not online,

1358
01:20:56.479 --> 01:21:00.640
and at that point, the I
couldn't view my club profile, which

1359
01:21:00.680 --> 01:21:04.840
that seems to kind of come and
go due to like server capacity, Like

1360
01:21:04.880 --> 01:21:06.920
if you're there and there's capacity for
it, then you can do it,

1361
01:21:08.159 --> 01:21:10.800
or you know, I've seen it
in the past. But yeah, that

1362
01:21:10.880 --> 01:21:15.239
stuff's been a mass They just put
out another Drive Club patch, I want

1363
01:21:15.239 --> 01:21:18.560
to say late last week or over
the weekend or something like. It was

1364
01:21:18.600 --> 01:21:25.039
something pretty recent. And then yeah, there was the thing from uh Shooya

1365
01:21:25.079 --> 01:21:30.079
Shita like kind of apologizing for Drive
Club. That thing's been rough. Yeah,

1366
01:21:30.159 --> 01:21:32.199
it's been kind of a rough few
weeks on that system. I mean

1367
01:21:32.359 --> 01:21:34.600
at that point, just add another
paragraph to it. And by the way,

1368
01:21:34.640 --> 01:21:39.239
the game didn't turn out so hot
in the first place, so like

1369
01:21:39.359 --> 01:21:41.880
you know, when I when I
played it, everything worked when I was

1370
01:21:41.920 --> 01:21:45.159
playing it for a review. It
didn't break until it came out and and

1371
01:21:45.399 --> 01:21:49.279
more people started hitting the servers.
Do you really think server load is that

1372
01:21:49.359 --> 01:21:53.119
big an issue at this point though, like a like, as long as

1373
01:21:53.159 --> 01:21:55.479
that game has been down in one
way or another, or they're really that

1374
01:21:55.600 --> 01:21:58.319
many people trying to play it every
day, I have no idea. Yeah,

1375
01:21:58.359 --> 01:22:00.000
I mean, who knows what their
server capath. It could be obscenely

1376
01:22:00.079 --> 01:22:02.399
low. You know, they'd say
they're making strides on it, but they

1377
01:22:02.399 --> 01:22:05.279
all had to disable some stuff to
get there, and you know, so

1378
01:22:05.359 --> 01:22:08.479
at some point you'd imagine they would
turn it all back on, but like,

1379
01:22:08.560 --> 01:22:10.399
what are the you know, who
are they turning it back on for

1380
01:22:10.479 --> 01:22:12.840
at that point? Who's going like, all right, now I can get

1381
01:22:12.880 --> 01:22:15.359
in some Drive Club? Like I
don't think that game is very good regard

1382
01:22:15.479 --> 01:22:19.279
like even when it's working. So
yeah, the idea that this is like

1383
01:22:19.960 --> 01:22:23.920
the idea that like a game like
Drive Club, which is just kind of

1384
01:22:24.880 --> 01:22:30.000
is this throwaway sort of thing at
this point has become this like big thing

1385
01:22:30.119 --> 01:22:32.760
hanging around their neck like weighing them
down is really wild to me. Well,

1386
01:22:32.800 --> 01:22:34.439
they still have to make good on
it, you know. Yeah,

1387
01:22:34.640 --> 01:22:39.960
absolutely, they sold it to people
they promised to some kind of PlayStation BLUs

1388
01:22:40.079 --> 01:22:42.039
thing Like I'm yeah, I'm not
saying like, oh, we sho letting

1389
01:22:42.039 --> 01:22:45.039
off the hook like fuck dad.
No, absolutely, it's more like when

1390
01:22:45.079 --> 01:22:47.079
they finally do get when they finally
do get it, like congratulations. Now

1391
01:22:47.119 --> 01:22:50.359
you can play drive club like no
one wins in this scenario and become a

1392
01:22:50.399 --> 01:22:56.239
big anti climax at a certain point. Yeah, yeah, there there are

1393
01:22:56.359 --> 01:22:59.000
some nice aspects of that new firmware. I don't know how much you guys

1394
01:22:59.039 --> 01:23:01.720
poked around and a little bit here
and there. I never like they said

1395
01:23:01.720 --> 01:23:05.159
they added like people you may know. I hate that. I've never had

1396
01:23:05.199 --> 01:23:08.479
it. I've never had it show
up for me on your friends list.

1397
01:23:08.600 --> 01:23:10.960
Yeah, it's never. Every time
I go to the friends page, the

1398
01:23:11.039 --> 01:23:14.560
first slot where a friend would be
is people you may know. So maybe

1399
01:23:14.640 --> 01:23:17.760
go try setting your privacy to not
allow people to send your friend requests that

1400
01:23:17.880 --> 01:23:20.319
might have something, which is how
I have it set. If that aren't

1401
01:23:20.359 --> 01:23:24.880
currently, I mean, I like
having people be able to send me your

1402
01:23:24.920 --> 01:23:28.039
friend requests, but if it'll turn
that stupid module off, I totally will.

1403
01:23:28.119 --> 01:23:30.439
That's the only thing I can think
of, because the friends list was

1404
01:23:30.479 --> 01:23:32.079
already not great to begin with,
and then they just shoved it further down

1405
01:23:32.119 --> 01:23:35.000
the page with that thing. Yeah, so when I said it to no

1406
01:23:35.119 --> 01:23:38.119
one. I mean, I've mind
set to no one and I've never seen

1407
01:23:38.199 --> 01:23:40.279
that thing. I don't know if
that there's a link there or not,

1408
01:23:40.520 --> 01:23:45.079
but I'll give that a shot.
Yeah, party chat out way better though,

1409
01:23:46.119 --> 01:23:48.640
Like, oh that's right, they
change like the Kodak or something.

1410
01:23:48.800 --> 01:23:50.399
Yeah, well, I don't know
if they don't know that they ever came

1411
01:23:50.399 --> 01:23:53.800
out and said that, but like
I anecdotally, I tried it, and

1412
01:23:53.880 --> 01:23:58.279
it is significantly better. You can
broadcast and have the audio from your party.

1413
01:23:58.479 --> 01:24:01.000
Yeah, it's it's not as easy
as I would like. It's it's

1414
01:24:01.159 --> 01:24:03.640
well, it's it's probably the way
it should be. It's opt in on

1415
01:24:03.720 --> 01:24:08.439
the user level rather than like the
party leader just flagging it for the entire

1416
01:24:08.479 --> 01:24:12.199
party. Like each individual person has
to go into their options and check a

1417
01:24:12.279 --> 01:24:15.680
setting that says, like allow me
to be broadcasted on streams? Is that

1418
01:24:15.960 --> 01:24:18.359
is that for that is the options
for that specific party or is that day

1419
01:24:18.439 --> 01:24:21.119
system level setting that you set once. I hope it sticks. I hope

1420
01:24:21.159 --> 01:24:26.039
it just you set it. Nah, forget it? Okay, thanks Ron

1421
01:24:26.079 --> 01:24:30.399
poop hell Yeah, but uh but
yeah, the party chat sounds way better,

1422
01:24:30.439 --> 01:24:32.119
which was like it was insane that
they shipped a console in twenty thirteen

1423
01:24:32.279 --> 01:24:36.800
with like almost inaudible voice chat in
some cases, you know, especially combined

1424
01:24:36.840 --> 01:24:41.520
with that pack in crappy headset.
But I saw people saying, I'm using

1425
01:24:41.760 --> 01:24:44.119
like a nice headset with mine,
and I think a lot of people do

1426
01:24:44.199 --> 01:24:45.720
too. But I saw people saying, even like even the included head season

1427
01:24:45.760 --> 01:24:48.399
like a US, like, what
do you use use as a forties?

1428
01:24:49.239 --> 01:24:51.319
It's nice because that you know,
controllers, you have the jack on there,

1429
01:24:51.319 --> 01:24:54.600
you just plug it right in.
I was thinking about trying one of

1430
01:24:54.640 --> 01:24:59.159
those, the official Sony the Elite
Gold set. Yeah, I have that.

1431
01:24:59.279 --> 01:25:02.199
Those are fine too. I think
I only like something like the forties

1432
01:25:02.239 --> 01:25:04.319
because it's kind of universal, you
know, like I use them on my

1433
01:25:04.359 --> 01:25:06.920
PC. Yeah, but we've had
those around here and I don't. I

1434
01:25:08.039 --> 01:25:10.720
really don't like them. Really,
They're like, by far my favorite,

1435
01:25:10.760 --> 01:25:14.159
and I just I think there,
I just I find them super comfortable.

1436
01:25:14.319 --> 01:25:15.960
Yeah, I just that they were
not comfortable to me. Really. I

1437
01:25:16.039 --> 01:25:19.039
wore them for almost the entire twenty
four hours of Extra Life and didn't have

1438
01:25:19.039 --> 01:25:23.319
a problem with them. But but
yeah, it's it's nice to be able

1439
01:25:23.319 --> 01:25:25.920
to just plug a straight up headset
into a controller and just have a go,

1440
01:25:27.359 --> 01:25:29.399
and then the voice chat sounds better, Like I said, you know,

1441
01:25:29.520 --> 01:25:31.920
it's it's nice on that end.
So there are some some decent little

1442
01:25:32.000 --> 01:25:38.039
usability features that they put in.
Plus all those free themes, right Call

1443
01:25:38.039 --> 01:25:43.119
of Duty theme, Yeah, but
they dynamic Destiny theme themes are not audio.

1444
01:25:44.159 --> 01:25:45.960
Yeah, yeah, all the all
those and I guess if you have

1445
01:25:45.079 --> 01:25:47.760
I think, if I think,
if you have music turned on the system,

1446
01:25:47.880 --> 01:25:51.199
music is different really to the theme
check, you might get some destiny.

1447
01:25:51.319 --> 01:25:55.359
I mean they're also the three like
Sony made themes. They're generic that

1448
01:25:55.600 --> 01:25:59.039
are dynamic like there are there is
it is built into that system to have

1449
01:25:59.239 --> 01:26:01.399
like three animation stuff going on in
the background like the PS three did.

1450
01:26:02.279 --> 01:26:04.560
There's Yeah, there's there's a handful
of free themes up there that you can

1451
01:26:04.800 --> 01:26:08.760
you can try out. I would
assume they'll start selling them at some point.

1452
01:26:09.079 --> 01:26:12.119
I don't know, one would hope
not. I mean, especially if

1453
01:26:12.159 --> 01:26:15.720
they're just gonna be like promotional in
nature like SCR upcoming games like that.

1454
01:26:15.119 --> 01:26:18.000
No one should have to pay for
those. I was like when they were

1455
01:26:18.039 --> 01:26:20.159
trying to charge for well, I
guess they didn't, but I was gonna

1456
01:26:20.159 --> 01:26:25.399
say, like, that's akin to
them selling gamer pictures on the sixty for

1457
01:26:25.520 --> 01:26:27.960
like movies. Yeah, but if
you were quite no, they never sold

1458
01:26:28.039 --> 01:26:30.960
the movie ones. There was I
think early on there may have been one

1459
01:26:30.039 --> 01:26:32.800
case where they were like, oh, you should really pay money for a

1460
01:26:32.960 --> 01:26:35.960
last but it's like, no,
I'll just take the tom Cruise from Mission

1461
01:26:35.960 --> 01:26:40.159
Impossible because that one was free Burger
Kingland's really good. First of all,

1462
01:26:40.199 --> 01:26:43.520
it's from Live Free or Die Hard. I still have the TGS two thousand

1463
01:26:43.520 --> 01:26:48.000
and six icon as my like private
one, and then because the three sixties

1464
01:26:48.359 --> 01:26:51.359
and then the public one is the
Pringles logo. That was one of my

1465
01:26:51.760 --> 01:26:55.560
favorite things about the three sixty.
One of the reasons I liked it so

1466
01:26:55.640 --> 01:26:58.880
much was just how stupid everything was. Yep, that ship was stupid as

1467
01:26:58.920 --> 01:27:01.720
fuck, right, Like, I've
got a picture of a fucking Whopper as

1468
01:27:01.760 --> 01:27:05.960
my gamer picture perfect because I could, you know, like just because you

1469
01:27:06.079 --> 01:27:10.840
identify with the Whopper like they tried
to. They tried to force through so

1470
01:27:10.920 --> 01:27:14.680
many crappy things, like you said, like charging for promotion artwork, and

1471
01:27:14.800 --> 01:27:16.880
you found ways to subvert it that
you could feel good about, you know

1472
01:27:16.920 --> 01:27:18.880
what I mean? Yeah, it's
like, I'm gonna go for all the

1473
01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:23.960
dumbest free gamer pictures I can find. Fuck you. Yeah, there were

1474
01:27:23.960 --> 01:27:27.239
a lot of them. Everybody loses. He used my Xbox Live vision camera

1475
01:27:27.399 --> 01:27:30.479
to take a picture of Norm McDonald
for mine, right right, Just don't

1476
01:27:30.479 --> 01:27:31.960
get around it that way. Yeah. Yeah, it was just fun in

1477
01:27:32.000 --> 01:27:35.960
a really idiotic way. I enjoyed
it. Uh. You know, I

1478
01:27:36.000 --> 01:27:40.359
don't think they gave any impression of
how fast they're going to try to fix

1479
01:27:40.399 --> 01:27:43.279
the stuff, But I, like
I said I would Sony Firmer stuff.

1480
01:27:43.319 --> 01:27:46.600
I feel like they have like their
Twitter account the like ask PlayStation has been

1481
01:27:46.920 --> 01:27:50.479
on fire for days just saying like
you should hold down the reset button right

1482
01:27:51.399 --> 01:27:54.319
or or you know, they're just
saying like, hey, don't use rest

1483
01:27:54.359 --> 01:27:57.479
mode right now. Right. But
there there's I feel like there hasn't that

1484
01:27:57.600 --> 01:28:01.600
hasn't really been like a significant company
level thing of us going like or of

1485
01:28:01.680 --> 01:28:05.920
someoney going like, look we are
working on it. Yeah, Like there

1486
01:28:06.039 --> 01:28:10.600
that hasn't happened. Yeah, like
a good resounding, unified response. Maybe

1487
01:28:10.640 --> 01:28:15.359
hasn't. Yeah, But I mean, you know, stability improvements has kind

1488
01:28:15.359 --> 01:28:18.079
of become the running joke about for
firmware updates already. Yeah, so I

1489
01:28:18.119 --> 01:28:21.159
would assume the two point zero one
with stability improvements. Well, yeah,

1490
01:28:21.279 --> 01:28:25.520
exactly will be soon forthcomings. They
need to have their big you know,

1491
01:28:25.880 --> 01:28:33.039
their big full version number increase that
includes like lack of stability improvements. It

1492
01:28:33.199 --> 01:28:39.119
almost makes me think, like I
I started thinking in my mind that it

1493
01:28:39.279 --> 01:28:42.920
was similar to I would do.
I don't know, usually I think elsewhere.

1494
01:28:43.000 --> 01:28:45.159
Yeah, it's a good call other
body parts yea better at that.

1495
01:28:45.680 --> 01:28:48.560
But like it's similar to like say, an iOS update in some ways and

1496
01:28:48.840 --> 01:28:51.840
very different in other ways. Similar
in that it rolls out a bunch of

1497
01:28:51.840 --> 01:28:58.079
new features that are invariably broken into
some degree, but dissimilar in that you

1498
01:28:58.159 --> 01:29:01.039
can't get on the internet with this
console and use the core features of it

1499
01:29:01.079 --> 01:29:04.000
without updating, you know, right, Like you can't get a friends list,

1500
01:29:04.039 --> 01:29:06.960
you can't play online games, you
can't do anything but play single player

1501
01:29:08.039 --> 01:29:12.520
games by yourself unless you take this
update. Yeh, Like it almost makes

1502
01:29:12.520 --> 01:29:15.279
they have you a gun point exactly. It almost makes you wonder if you

1503
01:29:15.520 --> 01:29:17.399
get the firmware up to your head
and push the button out like you could

1504
01:29:17.439 --> 01:29:21.399
use you can use an iPhone four
iOS versions ago as long as you want

1505
01:29:21.479 --> 01:29:26.199
without any losing any functionality. You
know, it almost makes you wonder if

1506
01:29:26.239 --> 01:29:30.800
it's time for these things to become
more opt in. The reason that they

1507
01:29:30.880 --> 01:29:33.159
did that is because you know,
especially on the three sixty, but you

1508
01:29:33.199 --> 01:29:36.760
know eventually with the p S three
as well, Like these updates are including

1509
01:29:38.039 --> 01:29:42.159
the anti piracy updates, right that
you know that they don't very much want

1510
01:29:42.199 --> 01:29:45.159
to force people to update. That's
classically been the reason. But I mean

1511
01:29:45.239 --> 01:29:47.159
in the case of these new consoles, like, are is piracy a problem?

1512
01:29:47.600 --> 01:29:50.079
Yeah at this point, and maybe
it will be at some point and

1513
01:29:50.199 --> 01:29:56.840
it's a little more understandable. Right. There have been optional PSN updates as

1514
01:29:56.920 --> 01:29:59.800
the Yeah, there have been updates
where you can still get on the network,

1515
01:29:59.840 --> 01:30:03.319
but there's technically a point update of
like twoint oh one yea that they

1516
01:30:03.399 --> 01:30:09.000
haven't forced on everybody yet, so
they do that. It has happened,

1517
01:30:09.159 --> 01:30:14.039
ye but yeah, no, hopefully
they get this thing short up quickly.

1518
01:30:16.279 --> 01:30:21.800
In a happier PlayStation news or Sony
news, they're talking about the PlayStation experience.

1519
01:30:24.439 --> 01:30:26.920
It's you holding out on the power
button for ten to fifteen seconds,

1520
01:30:27.119 --> 01:30:30.960
waiting for a safe mode to start
up. The white knuckle anticipation of whether

1521
01:30:30.039 --> 01:30:33.720
this is a system will reboot or
not. Yeah, uh yeah, that's

1522
01:30:33.760 --> 01:30:36.760
that what that two day event in
Vegas that's happening. Yeah, they're doing

1523
01:30:36.760 --> 01:30:40.319
a thing and that was the sixth
and the seventh or something. Yes,

1524
01:30:42.199 --> 01:30:44.439
And it seems like they're just trying
to put on their own like they're selling

1525
01:30:44.479 --> 01:30:47.000
tickets to this thing. It's it's
not just like a sign up in the

1526
01:30:47.039 --> 01:30:49.479
fans or kind of. It's like
it's a it's a it's a full event,

1527
01:30:49.600 --> 01:30:53.840
I guess. And they're gonna have
you know, it seems like they're

1528
01:30:53.840 --> 01:30:58.359
doing like their own PlayStation focused packs
or something. But maybe just the show

1529
01:30:58.399 --> 01:31:00.399
floor and some announcements like they're not
gonna have I don't think they're gonna have

1530
01:31:00.439 --> 01:31:04.079
panels or anything like that. Maybe
they will, maybe they'll have the developers

1531
01:31:04.159 --> 01:31:09.199
on hand do well talks or something. They key they are. In fact,

1532
01:31:09.239 --> 01:31:11.960
I'll just read the quote. We
also have something super special plan for

1533
01:31:12.039 --> 01:31:14.680
No Man Sky. I can't say
much, but let's say that Saturday night

1534
01:31:14.720 --> 01:31:18.560
should be memorable. So I was
about, yeah, yeah, well we

1535
01:31:18.600 --> 01:31:21.520
can only hope. Wow. I
mean, there's Kid Rock playing No Man

1536
01:31:21.640 --> 01:31:27.239
Sky, though he's doing a cover
of that song they've been using the trailer

1537
01:31:27.600 --> 01:31:30.199
also, that's separate, so you
know, maybe there's some musical acts Saturday

1538
01:31:30.279 --> 01:31:33.199
Night or something like that, but
it does sound primarily like a big show

1539
01:31:33.239 --> 01:31:36.000
floor with a ton of boots.
I actually wouldn't think there would be a

1540
01:31:36.119 --> 01:31:39.920
musical act. I think the No
Man Sky thing is just like we're going

1541
01:31:39.960 --> 01:31:43.760
to unleash details on this game and
let you play it or something like that.

1542
01:31:44.439 --> 01:31:46.760
You think that'd be my guest,
maybe, like if it was like,

1543
01:31:46.800 --> 01:31:49.439
here's our big No Man Sky announcement
and it was just the band from

1544
01:31:49.439 --> 01:31:54.159
that trailer, it was gonna play
a show like that's not Maybe that's not

1545
01:31:54.239 --> 01:31:56.039
the sort of thing you tease that
way. Yeah, I guess so.

1546
01:31:57.760 --> 01:32:00.239
But they've got they announced a bunch
of developers. They've basically every big publisher

1547
01:32:00.279 --> 01:32:02.760
you can think of on board from
the looks of it, and a whole

1548
01:32:02.760 --> 01:32:09.399
bunch of indies. Uh they ran
down. It's a pretty short list of

1549
01:32:09.800 --> 01:32:12.720
confirmed games so far, but they
say there will be a bunch more they

1550
01:32:12.760 --> 01:32:16.359
haven't announced yet. I'll just read
the games. Battlefield hard Line. Okay,

1551
01:32:16.520 --> 01:32:19.560
big fest, Yeah, I'm ready
to have a big fest. I

1552
01:32:19.600 --> 01:32:23.880
don't know what that is. Isn't
that that music thing that they showed at

1553
01:32:23.880 --> 01:32:30.560
a game maybe so blood Born?
Yeah, DC Universe Online. Finally War

1554
01:32:30.640 --> 01:32:32.239
of the Light Part two. What
does that? I don't know. That

1555
01:32:32.520 --> 01:32:36.800
is that universe equel to War of
the Light, But that's it. That's

1556
01:32:36.840 --> 01:32:40.960
an add on for DC Okay,
okay, and Legends pv CO auditions.

1557
01:32:42.079 --> 01:32:45.760
They will have that Destiny expansion.
Okay, that's that's like coincides with its

1558
01:32:45.840 --> 01:32:48.920
release though. Also that comes out
the ninth, so that'll be like two

1559
01:32:49.000 --> 01:32:55.239
days before that we'll get to that
exclusive dragon Balls Universe Dying Light, Game

1560
01:32:55.279 --> 01:32:59.439
of Thrones a Telltale game series,
Grim Fandango Hell Divers Journey for PS four.

1561
01:33:00.000 --> 01:33:01.760
How is Hell Divers not out yet? I have no idea. We

1562
01:33:01.840 --> 01:33:05.319
saw that game a long time ago
and it seemed like it was in a

1563
01:33:05.399 --> 01:33:11.159
pretty good state of completion, but
I don't know. Lara Croft and The

1564
01:33:11.199 --> 01:33:16.479
Temple of a Cyrus Order Combat X
Playing Aside two, Tales from the Borderlands,

1565
01:33:16.600 --> 01:33:21.520
tear Away, Unfolded, The Order, the Tomorrow Children. I guess

1566
01:33:21.560 --> 01:33:26.199
there's an alpha starting for that soon. That game looks cool. I want

1567
01:33:26.199 --> 01:33:30.319
to see more about that. The
Witness and Until Dawn yes, I have

1568
01:33:30.520 --> 01:33:36.359
about every three to four months a
random just a random flash of awareness The

1569
01:33:36.399 --> 01:33:41.640
Witness is still a game that's coming
out, and it makes me happy every

1570
01:33:41.720 --> 01:33:44.640
every time I remember the Witness is
still yet to come, I'm like,

1571
01:33:45.319 --> 01:33:47.760
yeah, I do want to play
the Witness. That's exciting. It's gonna

1572
01:33:47.760 --> 01:33:50.560
be a good lineup. Yeah,
it's not bad. Uh. And and

1573
01:33:50.680 --> 01:33:55.439
again, like they've they said I
saw a figure somewhere. It's not in

1574
01:33:55.520 --> 01:33:59.199
this little story, but like they
had something like eighty booths for indie games

1575
01:33:59.319 --> 01:34:00.880
or something like that, indie developers, Like there's gonna be a ton of

1576
01:34:01.000 --> 01:34:08.960
smaller games there. Uh, there
will be a hands on Project Morpheus opportunities,

1577
01:34:10.079 --> 01:34:15.800
uh stuff stuff like that. They
use the term eyes on makes sense,

1578
01:34:15.920 --> 01:34:18.720
but uh, yeah, you know
it's kind of interesting. I guess

1579
01:34:18.720 --> 01:34:24.239
seeing a platform maker taking a stab
at a like at an event fan event

1580
01:34:24.359 --> 01:34:28.279
like this. Yeah, I didn't
think to check how much the tickets are,

1581
01:34:28.319 --> 01:34:29.640
you know, I want to say, I want to say it was

1582
01:34:29.640 --> 01:34:31.560
like fifty bucks or ninety bucks.
I know, I know there's a big

1583
01:34:31.640 --> 01:34:36.000
gulf in there, but I can't
remember that seems doable for two days?

1584
01:34:36.640 --> 01:34:42.520
Yeah, Uh, Las Vegas in
December. Sure, curious to and curious

1585
01:34:42.560 --> 01:34:46.600
to hear how that thing goes.
Yeah, Las Guardian, what what do

1586
01:34:46.680 --> 01:34:49.159
they announced it? There? I
don't think so, Like, do you

1587
01:34:49.199 --> 01:34:54.039
think there's any chance at all?
Who fucking knows? Like, wouldn't they

1588
01:34:54.079 --> 01:34:57.119
be teasing that as the big Saturday
night thing, We'll have a special thing

1589
01:34:57.239 --> 01:34:59.920
to Saturday night. No, because
you can't. That thing is so fun

1590
01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:01.600
far into joke territory that you can't
tease it. No, No, I

1591
01:35:01.600 --> 01:35:03.840
don't mean mention the game. I'm
just saying, like, wouldn't that be

1592
01:35:03.920 --> 01:35:08.960
the biggest news to come out of
this? Of course I would Duke Nukem

1593
01:35:08.960 --> 01:35:13.319
Forever come out. Chinese Maocracy came
out? Yeah, I know those were

1594
01:35:13.399 --> 01:35:16.920
both fucking awesome. Escrat is a
pretty good album? No, No,

1595
01:35:17.439 --> 01:35:20.640
A couple of okay songs on pretty
good? Was it released after nineteen seventy

1596
01:35:20.640 --> 01:35:25.159
eight? Uh? Yeah, I
think by your own definition it's fucking terrible.

1597
01:35:25.359 --> 01:35:30.399
Guns and Roses. No, he's
got a point. Once in a

1598
01:35:30.439 --> 01:35:34.840
while, Dan Reichert has a point. If like that point is Chinese democracy

1599
01:35:34.960 --> 01:35:39.880
is anything other than awful, except
for like that one song, which one?

1600
01:35:39.960 --> 01:35:41.720
Which one? There was a time
that's a good one. The one

1601
01:35:41.760 --> 01:35:45.680
that was in a guitar Guitar hero
better. I guess. Actually, at

1602
01:35:45.720 --> 01:35:47.840
some point the whole thing was in
there, wasn't it. Yeah, I

1603
01:35:47.840 --> 01:35:54.600
guess so Shackler's Revenge, Yes,
that's that's the one song one. I

1604
01:35:54.720 --> 01:35:57.359
like the Chorse and that song is
pretty pretty good. Yeah. I like

1605
01:35:57.439 --> 01:36:00.319
madagasc Madagascar. Yeah, that's a
great one. I have any ever even

1606
01:36:00.319 --> 01:36:01.880
listen to the entire album. It's
not a Guns and Roses already yeah,

1607
01:36:01.880 --> 01:36:06.840
GNR lies, now that's a Guns
and Roses album. It's sorry, it's

1608
01:36:06.880 --> 01:36:11.039
more of an EP. I guess
technically it is the acousticccept. Real good?

1609
01:36:11.159 --> 01:36:15.520
Yeah, I patience? All right, Nintendo, I'm just gonna read

1610
01:36:15.520 --> 01:36:17.279
past. I mean, I wasn't
big on us your illusion? Oh the

1611
01:36:17.359 --> 01:36:20.880
ballads? Which one are my favorite? Guns into? You know, if

1612
01:36:20.920 --> 01:36:25.800
you, if you, you could
make one really good album out of like

1613
01:36:25.920 --> 01:36:29.560
with most double albums. As the
person who schedules all the discussion on the

1614
01:36:29.600 --> 01:36:32.680
podcast, I'm gonna say sit on
that for let's say the next thirty minutes.

1615
01:36:32.720 --> 01:36:38.239
Oh okay, okay, we'll get
back to it. Patrick's headline Nintendo

1616
01:36:38.359 --> 01:36:45.000
wants to monitor your sleep. Fuck
Nintendo is watching you sleep, watching you

1617
01:36:45.279 --> 01:36:49.479
sleep. Do you remember when they
were talking about their quality of life initiatives?

1618
01:36:49.520 --> 01:36:51.199
Yeah, there was like something we're
thinking. We're like, I don't

1619
01:36:51.199 --> 01:36:55.479
know, man, games aren't working. What about health? Health? Do

1620
01:36:55.520 --> 01:36:59.199
you like health? Right? You
want to be healthy? I mean not

1621
01:36:59.319 --> 01:37:01.840
the Nintendo away, but sure,
what is the Nintendo way? Well,

1622
01:37:01.840 --> 01:37:04.000
I don't know. I kind of
expected that stuff to go the way of

1623
01:37:04.000 --> 01:37:10.199
the vitality sensor, which is to
say, nowhere strict diet of balance boards.

1624
01:37:11.720 --> 01:37:16.479
Yeah, they put out a balance
board for the week. Okay,

1625
01:37:17.640 --> 01:37:21.680
I have a foot for a balance
board, A foot, A little the

1626
01:37:23.800 --> 01:37:26.279
clamp on like it has four little
feet that fit over. Yeah, I

1627
01:37:26.319 --> 01:37:28.159
have one of those. I don't
know where the balance board is. I

1628
01:37:28.199 --> 01:37:30.960
don't know. Maybe you know I
have one of the feet yep. Found

1629
01:37:30.960 --> 01:37:33.079
at the other day. Went oh
that's I know exactly what this is.

1630
01:37:33.199 --> 01:37:35.920
But I don't think I have any
other parts of this. Should throw that

1631
01:37:35.960 --> 01:37:40.399
in the trash. Yeah, that's
probably where that goes in twenty years when

1632
01:37:41.199 --> 01:37:45.800
balance board feet are there's a hot
aftermarket. Yeah, are the new currency.

1633
01:37:45.359 --> 01:37:48.479
We're all gonna be broke. They
never even put out a we fit

1634
01:37:48.520 --> 01:37:56.399
on we we fit you. I'll
take your board for it. Well,

1635
01:37:56.479 --> 01:37:59.560
anyway, this quality of life stuff
supposedly is going somewhere because they have,

1636
01:38:00.159 --> 01:38:04.439
uh, they have announced a partnership
with res Met Incorporated, a company known

1637
01:38:04.520 --> 01:38:10.039
for treating sleep disorders. It says, okay, and there's like there's very

1638
01:38:10.159 --> 01:38:14.800
little detail on this, Like there's
no product name, there's no real strategy

1639
01:38:14.880 --> 01:38:16.640
for like how it's going to be
implemented. Super Mario Brothers four is a

1640
01:38:16.720 --> 01:38:23.119
product name clipped to your sleeve.
Yeah, no, Actually the thing is

1641
01:38:23.159 --> 01:38:26.279
not wearable. It goes on your
your kind of night table, goes on

1642
01:38:26.359 --> 01:38:28.960
the table next to your bed.
Okay, I watch your sleep. It's

1643
01:38:29.479 --> 01:38:30.880
to monitor sleep. Yes, there's
a ton of things that do that.

1644
01:38:31.000 --> 01:38:34.840
But it measures like when you're in
rem sleep and everything moving. Again,

1645
01:38:34.960 --> 01:38:38.479
not a who lot of detail.
Okay here, I just don't understand if

1646
01:38:38.520 --> 01:38:40.640
you're not wearing it how Yeah,
I don't know. I don't know either,

1647
01:38:41.159 --> 01:38:45.479
But that you know, they're they're
promising the little video camera record a

1648
01:38:45.479 --> 01:38:48.000
bunch of data about how you're sleeping. Video camera. This is next to

1649
01:38:48.079 --> 01:38:54.159
the bed, right like the iPhone, like down sleep cycle and stuff that

1650
01:38:54.319 --> 01:38:57.000
can feel the bed moving and stuff, but sitting on a table next to

1651
01:38:57.000 --> 01:38:59.199
the bed. I don't know how
that works. There's all kinds of weird

1652
01:38:59.279 --> 01:39:01.640
ways that you know. In fact, I this reminds me of this was

1653
01:39:01.760 --> 01:39:04.920
like literally done at university, you
know, a lab experiment or whatever.

1654
01:39:04.960 --> 01:39:09.880
But they found out that they could
monitor, you know, pretty bluntly,

1655
01:39:10.039 --> 01:39:12.399
like this wasn't fine data, but
they could more or less sort of track

1656
01:39:12.439 --> 01:39:15.760
people's motion and breathing patterns while they're
sleeping with Wi Fi signals. Whoa like,

1657
01:39:16.199 --> 01:39:19.239
like your body was disturbing the Wi
Fi signal just enough that they could

1658
01:39:19.359 --> 01:39:23.840
extrapolate that into kind of figuring out
your breathing patterns and stuff. So it

1659
01:39:23.880 --> 01:39:27.840
could be something like that. Maybe
this is some insane advanced technology, but

1660
01:39:27.880 --> 01:39:31.680
it's Nintendo, so probably not.
And you know, I'll just read what

1661
01:39:31.800 --> 01:39:34.640
Patrick wrote. The device will,
in theory, seamlessly upload data to the

1662
01:39:34.680 --> 01:39:40.319
cloud and provide users information on quality
of the previous night's sleep and fatigue levels.

1663
01:39:40.359 --> 01:39:43.479
And Nintendo has not outlined how the
software side will work just yet,

1664
01:39:44.039 --> 01:39:45.439
which seems like the crazy part to
me. And then you push the button

1665
01:39:45.439 --> 01:39:48.279
then you can vote on fun stuff, right, well, but I mean

1666
01:39:48.359 --> 01:39:51.479
more the vote channel like more of
the point. Nintendo is a video game

1667
01:39:51.479 --> 01:39:56.840
company, so everybody votes, how
did I sleep? Checks out channel.

1668
01:39:58.800 --> 01:40:00.840
I wish Sony would do this,
and they you just integrated run in to

1669
01:40:00.920 --> 01:40:02.199
wake Up Club. There you go. I got that. I got wake

1670
01:40:02.279 --> 01:40:05.119
Up Club. That's great. I
don't really know what's happening everywhere. Wait,

1671
01:40:05.159 --> 01:40:08.800
do you use it? Uh?
You know? Still use it?

1672
01:40:09.239 --> 01:40:11.840
Yeah? I mean yeah, yeah, you're probably waking up robots. No,

1673
01:40:12.039 --> 01:40:15.760
have you heard of a waki I
have? Okay, that sounds crazy.

1674
01:40:15.840 --> 01:40:16.880
It's not on iOS yet, but
I'm gonna get it the second it

1675
01:40:17.000 --> 01:40:19.640
is. Have you heard of this
bread Nope, Drew, No, it's

1676
01:40:19.720 --> 01:40:24.520
a app. It's an alarm clock
app for Android and Google or whatever.

1677
01:40:24.600 --> 01:40:30.359
Now it's coming to iOS where Yeah, Android, Google or whatever. Now

1678
01:40:30.640 --> 01:40:32.520
yep, it's on the Windows phone. I think, actually too, Yeah,

1679
01:40:32.880 --> 01:40:35.560
it really is. And what it
does is like I set the alarm

1680
01:40:35.760 --> 01:40:40.159
for seven o'clock in the morning or
whenever I went to and it's seven o'clock.

1681
01:40:40.600 --> 01:40:43.800
Some Yahoo with the app calls me, could be anywhere in the world

1682
01:40:43.960 --> 01:40:45.920
and starts talking to me being like, hey man, what are you doing?

1683
01:40:45.960 --> 01:40:47.680
You should wake up? And so
you start the day by talking to

1684
01:40:47.800 --> 01:40:50.960
other users of the apps. I
don't know if it's an actual phone call

1685
01:40:51.119 --> 01:40:54.560
using like just the normal Apple thing, or if it connects you through the

1686
01:40:54.600 --> 01:40:58.079
app, but yeah, just a
live person just calls you and it's like,

1687
01:40:58.119 --> 01:40:59.840
hey man, what do you up
to? You you get to work

1688
01:40:59.920 --> 01:41:01.239
or whatever you do, Like you
just have a conversation with the dude.

1689
01:41:01.279 --> 01:41:03.720
Do you ever have to call other
people? You can when you went to

1690
01:41:03.840 --> 01:41:06.399
if it's like, oh I got
a three five minutes, I'll just wake

1691
01:41:06.479 --> 01:41:10.239
people, Okay, so I assudent. They'll just they'll just match you with

1692
01:41:10.319 --> 01:41:13.439
whoever happens to be at that time
up at that point. Yeah, that's

1693
01:41:14.079 --> 01:41:17.159
chat roulette for waking up for you
don't want to wake up a chat.

1694
01:41:17.479 --> 01:41:19.399
I think it's I think it's a
pretty cool idea. Yeah, I'm not

1695
01:41:19.399 --> 01:41:21.600
gonna get that as soon as it
goes up, I might have to Wow.

1696
01:41:23.720 --> 01:41:29.920
Wow, that's kind of unsettling.
Yep. But yeah. The weird

1697
01:41:29.960 --> 01:41:30.920
thing about this Nintendo stuff is like
that, you know, there are no

1698
01:41:31.039 --> 01:41:34.640
details about it tying into an existing
Nintendo platform or service, you know.

1699
01:41:34.960 --> 01:41:36.640
Yeah, yeah, it's like like, hey, we're making this thing,

1700
01:41:36.760 --> 01:41:40.039
right, It's not like dam and
watch. But for sleepers, right,

1701
01:41:40.119 --> 01:41:43.159
It's like it's not like the data
will plug into your three dsor or like

1702
01:41:43.359 --> 01:41:45.159
be reflected on your me on the
WIU or something. It's just like,

1703
01:41:45.359 --> 01:41:49.239
here is a product we are making
duct tapeing a mebo forehead, right,

1704
01:41:51.479 --> 01:41:54.840
I don't know, it's it's kind
of weird that they would announce this with

1705
01:41:54.920 --> 01:41:57.399
so little detail. Well, is
it a full announcement or is it just

1706
01:41:57.520 --> 01:42:01.319
like this is a patent application or
something like that. I mean, no,

1707
01:42:01.600 --> 01:42:04.640
I or this come out of like
an earnings call where they're like,

1708
01:42:04.680 --> 01:42:08.199
ah, we're kind of working on
this, Like it's not a product announcement.

1709
01:42:08.760 --> 01:42:14.439
Now, looking at the Patrick story, he'd does not actually talk about

1710
01:42:14.479 --> 01:42:16.039
where the information came from. But
I got the sense looking at Twitter that

1711
01:42:16.079 --> 01:42:18.600
it was some kind of story because
he made it up. Yes, okay,

1712
01:42:18.640 --> 01:42:21.840
all right, he dreamed about it. No. I saw people talking

1713
01:42:21.840 --> 01:42:26.159
about on Twitter as if it was
a stream that like they talked about this

1714
01:42:26.239 --> 01:42:29.960
directly. This was not something that
somebody uncovered. Okay, they just didn't

1715
01:42:30.359 --> 01:42:34.600
really tell you any of the stuff
you'd want to know. But stay tuned.

1716
01:42:34.960 --> 01:42:39.800
Sure, I can sense your excitement
every morning seven am. You get

1717
01:42:39.800 --> 01:42:45.239
a phone call from Pitt from Kitticers
fame. If I if I could pay

1718
01:42:45.319 --> 01:42:51.000
some amount of money to have Satoru
Iwata call me every morning? Yeah,

1719
01:42:51.039 --> 01:42:55.840
I'm with a pleasant lilt of his. Or does Charles Martinette doing I went

1720
01:42:55.920 --> 01:42:58.239
away? That'll be all right,
But I really I would. I would

1721
01:42:58.239 --> 01:43:01.079
go for the Wata pack. Yeah, do you want a tear? I

1722
01:43:01.119 --> 01:43:04.159
would love to hear from your water
every morning. I wouldn't feel like sleep,

1723
01:43:04.560 --> 01:43:08.000
be so relaxed and put it easy, just be like, oh you

1724
01:43:08.399 --> 01:43:13.319
I low you MANI every morning.
I feel like it would that's just a

1725
01:43:13.399 --> 01:43:15.479
great way to start your day.
Well, Walluigi would just he would get

1726
01:43:15.520 --> 01:43:21.600
one up on you by just not
calling. That's class. He was too

1727
01:43:21.640 --> 01:43:30.000
busy playing tennis. That guy they
announced that danced dancing tances. They announced

1728
01:43:30.159 --> 01:43:32.159
that to go. Nope, that's
staying in all right. People said they

1729
01:43:32.199 --> 01:43:39.039
wanted less editing in the podcast.
It's too interactive. Go. That Destiny

1730
01:43:39.119 --> 01:43:44.159
expansion got detailed. Yes, it
did. The dark below like pin stripes.

1731
01:43:44.640 --> 01:43:45.640
What are we talking? Yep?
Did you lower it? Put on

1732
01:43:45.760 --> 01:43:48.880
bags? You're sucker, I don't
know what you're talking about. Got detailed.

1733
01:43:49.760 --> 01:43:57.439
The windows put on the bags and
then deflated the bags. Jointed.

1734
01:43:58.319 --> 01:44:01.319
Read the stuff, run it down. It won't take long. No,

1735
01:44:01.520 --> 01:44:03.960
it certainly won't. Won't. Oh
you know what, I copied it out

1736
01:44:03.960 --> 01:44:06.920
of the press release and they actually
gave a little bit of extra detail about

1737
01:44:06.920 --> 01:44:10.560
some of the missions, but I
won't read that stuff. Here we go,

1738
01:44:10.920 --> 01:44:18.279
three news story missions, three new
multiplayer maps, two new strikes if

1739
01:44:18.319 --> 01:44:24.439
you're on the PlayStation, four if
you're on the Xbox one New Strike,

1740
01:44:26.159 --> 01:44:30.520
Xbox one News Strike. Yep.
Uh, there's one new raid. And

1741
01:44:30.560 --> 01:44:33.880
then you know there's the expected kind
of like raft of weapons and armor and

1742
01:44:34.039 --> 01:44:36.640
drops and things that go along with
all that. Yep, to raise the

1743
01:44:36.680 --> 01:44:40.319
level cap to thirty two. And
the level cap only goes thirty two.

1744
01:44:41.359 --> 01:44:44.479
And so we heard about this stuff
a couple of weeks before the announcement went

1745
01:44:44.520 --> 01:44:47.359
out, and at the time it
was not confirmed, but the information got

1746
01:44:47.439 --> 01:44:51.399
to us and I was like,
and it was the person who related it

1747
01:44:51.479 --> 01:44:55.359
was not sure it was legit or
not. But even then when I heard

1748
01:44:55.399 --> 01:44:57.720
it, I was like, I
can't be right. It's gotta be more

1749
01:44:57.760 --> 01:45:01.079
than that. And then this news
hit last week. Nope, that's exactly

1750
01:45:01.159 --> 01:45:03.560
what it is not only is that
exactly what it was, but I feel

1751
01:45:03.600 --> 01:45:09.159
like the response to what it is
was even more pointed than it was when

1752
01:45:09.239 --> 01:45:12.800
we heard about it of us,
Like for me, it was just kind

1753
01:45:12.800 --> 01:45:15.399
of like a like a hang dogs, like, oh, come on really,

1754
01:45:15.039 --> 01:45:18.960
But a lot of people seem very
unhappy, judging by comments and stuff

1755
01:45:19.039 --> 01:45:21.920
last week. It's the thing,
you know, the thing when people complain

1756
01:45:21.960 --> 01:45:26.560
about DLC and like, oh they're
talking about DEALC whore the game is out,

1757
01:45:26.680 --> 01:45:29.000
or oh this deal season the disc
and blah blah blah. Like the

1758
01:45:29.359 --> 01:45:32.359
thing is I feel, like I
always say, is like it doesn't matter,

1759
01:45:32.600 --> 01:45:35.159
None of that matters, as long
as you feel like you're getting your

1760
01:45:35.199 --> 01:45:38.880
money's worth off of the disc itself, like you know, the add ons

1761
01:45:38.880 --> 01:45:42.720
and how they deliver it, Like, as long as they're not like blatantly

1762
01:45:43.199 --> 01:45:46.640
putting out games that are under serving
its audience and then trying to sell people,

1763
01:45:47.520 --> 01:45:53.319
you know, a full length experience
after the fact, then everything's fine.

1764
01:45:54.279 --> 01:45:57.880
Everything is not fine when it comes
to Destiny, yeah, yeah,

1765
01:46:00.319 --> 01:46:02.439
yeah. And it's one of those
things where if I'm sure like on some

1766
01:46:02.600 --> 01:46:05.800
level, if you did like an
hour count compared to any of the Halo

1767
01:46:05.920 --> 01:46:11.039
Games, Destiny is probably longer.
I've spent more time playing Destiny than any

1768
01:46:11.159 --> 01:46:14.359
game that's not dooted this year.
But Destiny is a very different type of

1769
01:46:14.439 --> 01:46:17.079
game, and with it become very
different type of expectations, and it fails

1770
01:46:17.119 --> 01:46:23.000
to meet those expectations. And that's
it's large problem. So when you when

1771
01:46:23.000 --> 01:46:25.319
you come out and say, hey, there are three more missions, like

1772
01:46:25.439 --> 01:46:27.840
in the back of your mind is
someone you know who has played a lot

1773
01:46:27.840 --> 01:46:30.600
of Destiny, You're probably thinking,
great, I can play those three missions

1774
01:46:30.640 --> 01:46:32.880
and probably about an hour and a
half, and then I will be expected

1775
01:46:32.920 --> 01:46:36.399
to grind on them again and again
and again four months and months and months

1776
01:46:36.479 --> 01:46:41.199
for bounties and all these other bullshit
seasons that they want you to go back

1777
01:46:41.239 --> 01:46:45.000
in. Also, these are not
set in new environments. It's not there's

1778
01:46:45.000 --> 01:46:47.239
no new planet. Well, they
are setting probably in the new areas of

1779
01:46:47.439 --> 01:46:50.119
maps that we haven't been to yet. And to be fair, people have

1780
01:46:50.239 --> 01:46:54.520
snuck into enough of those areas in
the existing game in the most style,

1781
01:46:54.560 --> 01:46:57.640
you know, find ways to break
the collision and stuff that what I've seen

1782
01:46:57.680 --> 01:47:00.800
of that stuff looks pretty significantly different
for the existing areas. Even though they're

1783
01:47:00.800 --> 01:47:04.800
on the same planets. And you
know, the next expansion is coming out

1784
01:47:04.840 --> 01:47:08.119
in February, so there'll be more
to content. So I'll go through this

1785
01:47:08.159 --> 01:47:11.439
whole process. You're totally right,
Like, that's you're right, You're right.

1786
01:47:13.680 --> 01:47:15.920
You know, some people, a
lot of people were out there last

1787
01:47:15.920 --> 01:47:17.720
week going like this just proves that
they just chopped the game up and held

1788
01:47:17.720 --> 01:47:20.159
a bunch back for DLC, Like, I don't think you even need to

1789
01:47:20.199 --> 01:47:24.600
make that assumption here, right,
well, like, regardless of how it

1790
01:47:24.680 --> 01:47:26.920
happened, Like, just look at
the amount of content in the game,

1791
01:47:27.079 --> 01:47:30.840
which is fairly spare. Yeah,
And whether they're holding it for DLC or

1792
01:47:31.199 --> 01:47:33.439
they had to cut it because at
some point they had to ship a game

1793
01:47:33.520 --> 01:47:36.720
and stuff wasn't done in time,
like, it doesn't change the argument either

1794
01:47:36.800 --> 01:47:40.960
way, whether right, whether it
was a business decision or like an issue

1795
01:47:41.000 --> 01:47:44.600
of production that they couldn't finish.
Yeah, and my money would be on

1796
01:47:44.760 --> 01:47:47.000
it was an issue of production that
they couldn't finish. And this is certainly

1797
01:47:47.039 --> 01:47:48.960
not proof. You know, it
could be spin, but they have been

1798
01:47:49.119 --> 01:47:55.000
Budget's been out there saying the storytelling
and stuff in this add on as being

1799
01:47:55.119 --> 01:47:58.800
influenced by what people are saying about
the shipping game. We have added storytelling,

1800
01:48:00.680 --> 01:48:03.920
they didn't go in a lot of
specifics, so maybe, And it's

1801
01:48:03.920 --> 01:48:05.960
one of those things where I feel
like, you know, like on some

1802
01:48:06.159 --> 01:48:11.520
level, I wish that they would
break up DLC even more finally than they

1803
01:48:11.640 --> 01:48:17.680
do, or focus it more so
that people can pick and choose instead of

1804
01:48:17.680 --> 01:48:23.600
putting a little bit of everything in
each one. Because I don't want to

1805
01:48:23.720 --> 01:48:28.760
play zombies in a Call of Duty
game, but that's part of the season

1806
01:48:28.800 --> 01:48:32.039
past for Advanced Warfare. I would
much rather have just more regular multiplayer maps

1807
01:48:32.960 --> 01:48:39.159
instead of like having this mode foisted
on me. And I feel the same

1808
01:48:39.239 --> 01:48:43.920
way about Destiny, where I don't
really want three new multiplayer maps, Like

1809
01:48:44.000 --> 01:48:46.920
I feel like it doesn't necessarily have
enough multiplayer maps, but I don't necessarily

1810
01:48:46.960 --> 01:48:49.359
want three more either. You know
that though I don't, I don't really

1811
01:48:49.399 --> 01:48:53.760
like the competitive multiplayer. That would
absolutely be the generous way for them to

1812
01:48:53.800 --> 01:48:56.119
approach this. But they know that, you know, they've been doing it

1813
01:48:56.199 --> 01:48:59.039
the other way for years and it's
been working for years. Yeah, like

1814
01:48:59.199 --> 01:49:01.479
that, they know they know that
they can sell you all of the DLC,

1815
01:49:01.680 --> 01:49:03.960
even if you only like one of
the types of content in there.

1816
01:49:04.560 --> 01:49:06.640
Yeah, because you're gonna have you're
gonna have to buy it all to get

1817
01:49:06.640 --> 01:49:10.479
all of the you know, in
this case single player missions or whatever.

1818
01:49:11.359 --> 01:49:14.119
Anyway, yep, so why not
do it that way? And it sounds

1819
01:49:14.159 --> 01:49:15.640
like they're tying it was one of
the things they mentioned in one of their

1820
01:49:15.680 --> 01:49:20.399
patch notes was this idea of like
letting you hold ten bounties instead of five.

1821
01:49:20.600 --> 01:49:23.880
They say ten, or they said
it would be double the bounties,

1822
01:49:25.399 --> 01:49:27.640
which I believe would be ten at
that point, I would it's five now,

1823
01:49:27.720 --> 01:49:30.840
I just thought they said more.
Anyway, that's listed as part of

1824
01:49:30.880 --> 01:49:33.880
this update. What that can't be
right? So I wonder if it's,

1825
01:49:33.920 --> 01:49:38.680
like I want to say, Borderland
is it's something similar their level cap increase,

1826
01:49:38.720 --> 01:49:40.239
where it's like, if you bought
this one, you get to this

1827
01:49:40.399 --> 01:49:42.920
level cap and then we've attached two
more levels to this one. Well,

1828
01:49:42.960 --> 01:49:45.399
Borderlands was the classic example of like, uh was it? I think the

1829
01:49:45.479 --> 01:49:48.079
bank was in mad Moxie, which
is the worst DLC, so like you

1830
01:49:48.159 --> 01:49:50.680
had to buy the dealc. Nobody
liked to get the bank, which everybody

1831
01:49:50.760 --> 01:49:55.399
wanted, and stuff like that,
Like that's kind of been a shitty aspect

1832
01:49:55.439 --> 01:49:58.159
of DLC for a long time.
Yeah, and it's it's one of the

1833
01:49:58.239 --> 01:50:00.960
things that you wish that they would
break it apart or find different ways to

1834
01:50:01.039 --> 01:50:04.000
offer that to people, or find
different schedules for releasing it, and to

1835
01:50:04.079 --> 01:50:06.760
say like, look, you know, this game is a lot of different

1836
01:50:06.760 --> 01:50:10.119
things to a lot of different people. Like you know, they can sit

1837
01:50:10.159 --> 01:50:13.039
there and like front and be like
everyone's gonna love all of it and sell

1838
01:50:13.039 --> 01:50:15.600
their DLC this way, or they
could just go like, look, we're

1839
01:50:15.600 --> 01:50:17.560
gonna do multiplayer map packs, and
we're gonna do single player content packs,

1840
01:50:18.159 --> 01:50:21.199
and we'll put exclusive stuff in all
of it. So if you want all

1841
01:50:21.239 --> 01:50:25.239
the shaders, you know, even
though if you play single player, there'll

1842
01:50:25.279 --> 01:50:28.079
be weird reasons for you to buy
the other ship, you know, like

1843
01:50:28.159 --> 01:50:31.119
there's no reason not to do that
stuff. But I feel like at least

1844
01:50:31.199 --> 01:50:36.560
like the option to get a more
meaningful amount of single player content out of

1845
01:50:36.560 --> 01:50:41.199
these packs instead of having it having
to touch every little piece of the game,

1846
01:50:42.159 --> 01:50:45.600
Like what if this had been six
story missions instead of three. What

1847
01:50:45.720 --> 01:50:47.119
you're proposing is nice, but I
don't think that would have made them make

1848
01:50:47.159 --> 01:50:51.079
six story missions your profit. They
would have just chopped this thing in half

1849
01:50:51.079 --> 01:50:54.880
and sold it for half the price
each or something, or the same price,

1850
01:50:55.079 --> 01:50:58.359
you know, or something horrible like
that. Yeah, I don't know,

1851
01:50:59.159 --> 01:51:00.560
like my mind, and you know, I don't work at Bungee.

1852
01:51:00.600 --> 01:51:02.960
I would think that those story missions, the way they're designed, would be

1853
01:51:03.119 --> 01:51:08.319
like probably the easiest kind of content
to make in this sort of game.

1854
01:51:08.840 --> 01:51:10.920
So when I heard there were only
three, I was like, you gotta

1855
01:51:10.920 --> 01:51:15.720
be fucking kidding me, right,
But that's what it is. It's twenty

1856
01:51:15.760 --> 01:51:19.119
bucks if you just buy it off
the store on launch day, and what

1857
01:51:19.199 --> 01:51:21.920
if it's like thirty five thirty five
if you buy the pass for both of

1858
01:51:23.000 --> 01:51:26.079
them, yeah, or thirty if
you bought the ninety dollars edition that just

1859
01:51:26.159 --> 01:51:30.600
came with the right expansion pass.
Early on. I'm sure Activision looks at

1860
01:51:30.640 --> 01:51:33.279
this thing and says, like,
because what are called duty map packs?

1861
01:51:33.279 --> 01:51:36.119
Four maps or maps? Four maps
for fifteen And in some cases, like

1862
01:51:36.239 --> 01:51:39.600
with the last one, it was
like it was three maps and one zombies

1863
01:51:39.640 --> 01:51:42.199
map, so it was split in
a way that was like, well,

1864
01:51:42.239 --> 01:51:44.199
if you don't like zombies, you're
getting three maps, yeah, Or if

1865
01:51:44.199 --> 01:51:47.039
all you like is zombies, you're
one or aliens like this was aliens in

1866
01:51:47.079 --> 01:51:49.640
the last one. So I'm sure
that you know that at some point the

1867
01:51:49.680 --> 01:51:53.119
business people look at this and say, well, this is three maps of

1868
01:51:53.159 --> 01:51:56.520
one type, three maps of another
type, two other types of maps,

1869
01:51:56.560 --> 01:52:00.520
and the huge value probably five dollars
more than what we charge for call of

1870
01:52:00.600 --> 01:52:02.800
duty, like this is price.
This is like the steel or whatever.

1871
01:52:02.960 --> 01:52:10.279
Yeah, but no, people that
play Destiny know better. Do they come

1872
01:52:10.359 --> 01:52:13.880
on? Do they just go with
it? We'll make my point, all

1873
01:52:13.960 --> 01:52:17.600
right, that you know this is
like they've made an incredible game and have

1874
01:52:17.760 --> 01:52:20.680
chosen to like drip feed the content
for the next X number of years.

1875
01:52:20.880 --> 01:52:25.479
You know, I you know,
I yes, I don't know that chosen

1876
01:52:25.680 --> 01:52:30.119
is the right word. Or however, whatever circumstances they have, regardless of

1877
01:52:30.159 --> 01:52:31.720
how they got there, this is
where they are, you know. And

1878
01:52:33.239 --> 01:52:38.039
I don't know, I feel like
that on some level, like they can

1879
01:52:38.159 --> 01:52:40.359
they can fall back on their numbers
and look and go like, well,

1880
01:52:40.439 --> 01:52:45.039
are all these hockey sticks are going
up and you know the number of hours

1881
01:52:45.079 --> 01:52:46.720
people are playing? Like the numbers
are great, everything's good. Or they

1882
01:52:46.760 --> 01:52:49.920
could listen to what people are saying
and and try to do the right thing

1883
01:52:51.000 --> 01:52:56.439
for what they are investing for the
next decade for yeah, you know,

1884
01:52:56.600 --> 01:53:00.319
because if they are out of the
gate doing wrong, you know, it's

1885
01:53:00.439 --> 01:53:02.920
rough. How are they going to
establish this thing? Like what's going to

1886
01:53:02.920 --> 01:53:05.239
happen to the sequel? What's gonna
happen down the line? Or even sooner

1887
01:53:05.279 --> 01:53:08.560
than that. They're out there talking
about like the next iteration of the Iron

1888
01:53:08.600 --> 01:53:11.720
banner where apparently they're going to add
like two more levels of rep to grind

1889
01:53:11.840 --> 01:53:15.960
on there and stuff like that.
Rad Like, no, I don't I

1890
01:53:15.960 --> 01:53:18.079
don't want to play that. Yeah, Like I have not played the game

1891
01:53:18.079 --> 01:53:20.720
a whole lot for the last like
two weeks, basically because I did the

1892
01:53:20.800 --> 01:53:23.359
raid and yeah, but you got
I mean, you know, if you

1893
01:53:23.399 --> 01:53:26.319
look at the number of hours,
yeah, I played it for and I

1894
01:53:27.239 --> 01:53:30.920
six. You know, there are
a handful of you know, afternoons or

1895
01:53:30.960 --> 01:53:34.560
mornings or whatever where I ran around
for thirty minutes collecting helium and that sucked

1896
01:53:34.560 --> 01:53:40.359
ass. But ninety percent of my
time with Destiny or more I've really enjoyed,

1897
01:53:40.479 --> 01:53:43.119
you know, even like I you
know, I was happy to run

1898
01:53:43.159 --> 01:53:46.560
strikes a lot more than some people
like you were. Yeah, but even

1899
01:53:46.640 --> 01:53:49.920
I have gotten to the point now
where there's not a whole lot else for

1900
01:53:49.960 --> 01:53:51.800
me to do. You know,
I could do the hard Raid until I

1901
01:53:51.840 --> 01:53:56.000
get the last piece of gear I
need to hit thirty, but that that

1902
01:53:56.159 --> 01:53:59.039
is literally it. Yeah, once
I beat the hard Raid and hit thirty,

1903
01:53:59.079 --> 01:54:02.680
there's nothing else to do, right
barring any crazy weekend event stuff they

1904
01:54:02.760 --> 01:54:08.880
do. Yeah, it's just like
it leads me to feeling really torn on

1905
01:54:08.960 --> 01:54:13.239
that game because like, mechanically and
visually, like it is far and away

1906
01:54:13.359 --> 01:54:15.520
my favorite thing to come out this
year. The backbone of Destiny is really

1907
01:54:15.600 --> 01:54:20.239
solid and like it's incredible awesome,
But they're just I just wish that I

1908
01:54:20.319 --> 01:54:23.800
had more of it, Like I
would. I feel like a sucker for

1909
01:54:23.840 --> 01:54:26.199
saying this, but like I would, I would fork over the forty bucks

1910
01:54:26.279 --> 01:54:29.600
right now if I could get both
of those expansions right now, you know,

1911
01:54:30.600 --> 01:54:32.039
like I want to play more Destiny. There's just no more of it

1912
01:54:32.119 --> 01:54:42.880
to play at the moment, and
it hurts. It hurts inside, still

1913
01:54:42.960 --> 01:54:45.880
very much looking forward to this expansion. They should make those expansions free.

1914
01:54:46.279 --> 01:54:48.640
That will never happen, You're right, but it would be nice. It

1915
01:54:48.680 --> 01:54:51.760
would be that, you know,
I can feel like that that exact thought

1916
01:54:51.800 --> 01:54:55.399
has occurred to me since the game
came out, And I know, I

1917
01:54:55.479 --> 01:54:57.880
know it's a pipe dream because it's
one of the things where it's weird because

1918
01:54:57.920 --> 01:55:00.319
like I from where I'm sitting,
that game is in need of a good

1919
01:55:00.359 --> 01:55:03.319
will gesture. Yeah, uh,
based on the quality content. But again,

1920
01:55:03.399 --> 01:55:05.079
like that's one of the things where
they can you know, and they

1921
01:55:05.119 --> 01:55:10.439
put those numbers out like very you
know, like calculatingly. Look, people

1922
01:55:10.479 --> 01:55:14.199
fucking love Destiny. Fuck you.
Yeah. They they played twice a day.

1923
01:55:14.399 --> 01:55:17.119
They played for at least three hours. Ye, fuck off, people

1924
01:55:17.199 --> 01:55:21.119
love Destiny fuck you. Yeah,
Okay, that's fine, Like keep falling

1925
01:55:21.159 --> 01:55:26.000
back on the numbers, and when
the numbers fall off, what do you

1926
01:55:26.039 --> 01:55:29.239
gonna have left? I'm with you, Like, I'm realistic enough to know

1927
01:55:29.399 --> 01:55:31.199
that, you know, they're their
long term business plans are too rigid for

1928
01:55:31.279 --> 01:55:33.600
them to just all of a sudden
say hey, we're gonna make this update

1929
01:55:33.680 --> 01:55:36.479
free. Yeah, and and so
much stuff has gone sideways with that game

1930
01:55:36.720 --> 01:55:40.920
over the last year, and all
this stuff like who knows what corner they

1931
01:55:41.000 --> 01:55:44.960
found themselves backed into this fucking thing. But they need to do something if

1932
01:55:45.000 --> 01:55:47.239
this DLC isn't gonna be free like
they need to. I don't know what

1933
01:55:47.319 --> 01:55:51.800
they do, but they need to
do something a new mode, like something

1934
01:55:51.960 --> 01:55:55.159
like what I don't know, like
aah, I'll say it again, like

1935
01:55:55.399 --> 01:55:58.399
a firefight equivalent. Yeah, sure, it should be a really nice with

1936
01:55:58.680 --> 01:56:01.560
some kind of new I don't know, faction or some loot rolled into it

1937
01:56:01.680 --> 01:56:04.840
or something. Oh yeah, wave
based stuff on the multiplayer maps, like

1938
01:56:05.000 --> 01:56:09.319
like the survival stuff that Call of
Duty does that maybe that would be something

1939
01:56:09.319 --> 01:56:11.720
that would that would be helpful,
you know, like some of the stuff

1940
01:56:11.760 --> 01:56:14.760
that they're rolling out these events,
like not making them just a week long

1941
01:56:14.880 --> 01:56:17.880
or whatever. Some of that stuff
should hang around longer, you know,

1942
01:56:18.000 --> 01:56:20.520
they you know, I hope that
they are thinking hard about a lot of

1943
01:56:20.560 --> 01:56:24.279
this stuff. Yeah, and have
plans in the works, because I would

1944
01:56:24.319 --> 01:56:29.279
like to get back to Destiny,
but they need to make that game what

1945
01:56:29.359 --> 01:56:32.319
it should be. Hey, it
could happen. You know what else could

1946
01:56:32.359 --> 01:56:38.520
happen? What Star Citizen, Oh, it might happen. It's probably gonna

1947
01:56:38.560 --> 01:56:41.640
happen. You think it's gonna happen
in some manner, it's somehow in the

1948
01:56:41.720 --> 01:56:45.720
process of happening. Two big fail. That's what you're saying. No,

1949
01:56:46.159 --> 01:56:54.359
I wouldn't say that. Uh,
Australia, Australia, Packs Australia. I

1950
01:56:54.479 --> 01:56:57.319
was trying to remember the name of
it's Roberts Space Industries. Isn't that the

1951
01:56:57.399 --> 01:57:00.079
name of y Yes, Robert Space
Industries was in attending, said Packs Australia.

1952
01:57:00.199 --> 01:57:05.039
And they showed a bunch of Star
Citizen footage, yes, particularly the

1953
01:57:05.159 --> 01:57:10.399
first person shooting aspect of it.
By the way, Yeah, well it

1954
01:57:10.600 --> 01:57:13.600
known they talked about this stuff ahead
of time, that there was gonna happen

1955
01:57:13.760 --> 01:57:17.239
person shooting. Yeah, okay,
this all just got me thinking about dust

1956
01:57:17.319 --> 01:57:21.560
five one four. Star Citizen is
a weird thing. I got into.

1957
01:57:21.600 --> 01:57:25.960
I got I got looking into some
of this stuff in the light of this

1958
01:57:26.000 --> 01:57:28.479
footage coming out, because the footage
looks really nice. I watched over the

1959
01:57:28.479 --> 01:57:30.880
weekend and I was like, wow, that looks really good. Yeah,

1960
01:57:30.960 --> 01:57:32.560
yeah, it's on their site.
And then I started looking into this thing.

1961
01:57:32.920 --> 01:57:35.439
You know, I mean, the
broad strokes of Star Citizen have been

1962
01:57:35.479 --> 01:57:38.479
known for a long time, you
know, a big, living, breathing

1963
01:57:38.560 --> 01:57:42.239
universe and like capitle ships and blah
blah blah. But then I noticed that

1964
01:57:42.279 --> 01:57:45.720
they called this thing the first person
module. Yeah, and I was like,

1965
01:57:45.000 --> 01:57:46.920
what, it's like a plug in
for this game? Like what is

1966
01:57:46.960 --> 01:57:49.319
that? And then I went and
looked and there is a racing module.

1967
01:57:49.560 --> 01:57:55.920
Oh yeah, that looks like wipe
Out. Yeah. Also this first person

1968
01:57:56.000 --> 01:58:00.039
thing being made by Elphonic oh man, the guys that made Nexius. Yeah

1969
01:58:00.479 --> 01:58:10.880
really, Rafael Sadiq is making the
first person component for Yeah, what I

1970
01:58:10.960 --> 01:58:15.600
know? Right, it's a bizarre
that's fucking crazy. It is what happens

1971
01:58:15.600 --> 01:58:16.319
when you raise that amount of money. I guess, like, I don't

1972
01:58:16.319 --> 01:58:19.680
know, if they're like way past
forty million, they should put they should

1973
01:58:19.680 --> 01:58:23.479
put some partion of that game out
and then build onto it after the facts

1974
01:58:23.720 --> 01:58:27.439
instead of like it's kind of out. It's crazy. You can kind of

1975
01:58:27.520 --> 01:58:29.319
play parts of it. I mean, yeah, the dog you know we

1976
01:58:29.399 --> 01:58:31.199
talked about in fact like destiny that
way. Now that I think about it,

1977
01:58:31.479 --> 01:58:33.760
I'll come on. I know you're
right. Now that I think about

1978
01:58:33.760 --> 01:58:36.600
it, we get better when when
I think about back to when you were

1979
01:58:36.640 --> 01:58:40.000
messing with it. They refer to
that thing as the dog fight module,

1980
01:58:40.159 --> 01:58:43.119
right right, Like everything is just
a module in this game. It's crazy.

1981
01:58:43.319 --> 01:58:45.239
I been meaning to do. I
mean the video of it, but

1982
01:58:45.279 --> 01:58:47.479
it's just it's it's here, it's
changing, and there's always something better on

1983
01:58:47.560 --> 01:58:54.279
the horizon. So this, this
whole idea, this structure really squares with

1984
01:58:54.359 --> 01:58:57.800
my perception of Star Citizen is trying
to be all things to all people.

1985
01:58:58.000 --> 01:59:00.920
Yes, it's trying to be the
or Space. Yeah, it's like it's

1986
01:59:00.000 --> 01:59:02.199
trying to have it all. It's
trying to have it everything that you would

1987
01:59:02.239 --> 01:59:04.600
want in a game where you are
in space with your own ship. Is

1988
01:59:04.600 --> 01:59:09.760
there? Can I land on a
planet and go look for helium? I

1989
01:59:09.800 --> 01:59:14.359
don't know where's the helium farming module? I would hope, So who's making

1990
01:59:14.439 --> 01:59:15.720
that? I would hope. So
it's crazy to think, though, when

1991
01:59:15.760 --> 01:59:18.640
they raise that kind of money,
that they can just contract a whole other

1992
01:59:18.720 --> 01:59:21.520
developer out to do part of the
game. Yeah you know, yeah,

1993
01:59:23.840 --> 01:59:26.880
but yeah that you know that first
person in zero gravity? Yeah, yes,

1994
01:59:27.199 --> 01:59:30.640
it's got zero G in it.
It's real weird. That footage is

1995
01:59:30.640 --> 01:59:31.439
out there. You should go look
at it. I think it looks really

1996
01:59:31.520 --> 01:59:36.520
nice, looks nice. Yeah.
I wonder if I feel like the first

1997
01:59:36.600 --> 01:59:43.399
person that's currently in there, because
it's I could not walking around the hangar.

1998
01:59:43.760 --> 01:59:45.760
It feels strange. I could not
imagine playing a first person Well,

1999
01:59:46.000 --> 01:59:48.720
you know, if a different developer, and especially one that is used to

2000
01:59:48.800 --> 01:59:51.399
making first person games, is doing
that stuff, I would imagine that will

2001
01:59:51.439 --> 01:59:57.800
probably be pretty fleshed out. Yeah. I just seeing that made me go,

2002
01:59:58.000 --> 02:00:00.800
like, all right, fine,
this is probably going to happen like

2003
02:00:00.760 --> 02:00:06.399
to some like to some reasonable degree
of or it'll be it'll be a reasonable

2004
02:00:06.399 --> 02:00:10.960
facts emily of what they promised it
to be, probably, And it got

2005
02:00:11.000 --> 02:00:14.920
me thinking about what that's going to
be like when it happens, because there

2006
02:00:15.000 --> 02:00:17.479
are so many people that have put
like hundreds and thousands of dollars into this

2007
02:00:17.600 --> 02:00:21.359
game, that have like hung all
of their hopes on it, and then

2008
02:00:21.399 --> 02:00:27.279
there's this whole other faction of people
who are just like getting high on schadenfreude,

2009
02:00:27.760 --> 02:00:30.239
like desperate for the thing to fail
and be the biggest disaster in game

2010
02:00:30.279 --> 02:00:36.479
development history. And I don't know
which one is gonna be more like which

2011
02:00:36.560 --> 02:00:43.039
one would be more smug if one
of those things came to pass, right,

2012
02:00:43.239 --> 02:00:45.399
Like, I just I'm basing this
on like a bunch of like just

2013
02:00:45.439 --> 02:00:48.199
message board arguments between like the people
who have backed this thing to a high

2014
02:00:48.279 --> 02:00:51.840
level, right and the people who
are standing standing there like pointing and laughing

2015
02:00:51.920 --> 02:00:57.039
at the people who have backed it. You know, yeah, somebody and

2016
02:00:57.159 --> 02:00:59.840
somebody is going to lose their ship
when this game comes out one way or

2017
02:00:59.840 --> 02:01:02.039
an right, it's either going to
be the best thing ever made over the

2018
02:01:02.079 --> 02:01:04.479
worst thing ever made. I mean
no, because it's gonna be something in

2019
02:01:04.520 --> 02:01:06.960
the middle, because it all is. You know, it'll be like one

2020
02:01:06.960 --> 02:01:09.840
of the things where it's like,
oh, that's cool, came out like

2021
02:01:09.880 --> 02:01:15.000
it's kind of rough and shipped to
this and then get out and shooting first

2022
02:01:15.039 --> 02:01:18.319
person, but like only at certain
times of the day, and then it's

2023
02:01:18.319 --> 02:01:24.720
got a loaded different executable. Yeah. And there was no one and no

2024
02:01:24.920 --> 02:01:27.399
other players were there when I got
there, so it's kind of like I

2025
02:01:27.439 --> 02:01:30.560
flew out there for no reason.
And yeah, yeah, I mean if

2026
02:01:30.560 --> 02:01:33.000
anything, though, it's nice to
see the stuff and know that it's progressing.

2027
02:01:33.439 --> 02:01:35.800
Yeah, and then it'll be a
thing. I hope it comes out

2028
02:01:35.840 --> 02:01:39.279
and he's awesome and everyone plays it. That'd be great. That'd be fucking

2029
02:01:39.319 --> 02:01:42.760
fancast. Would not want who would
not want them to deliver exactly what they

2030
02:01:42.800 --> 02:01:45.199
promised, because like that sounds like
the best game ever, biggest, scariest,

2031
02:01:45.239 --> 02:01:48.279
most nightmarish space simulator of all time. Yeah, mixed in with all

2032
02:01:48.319 --> 02:01:55.640
this other stuff like sure yeah PlayStation
home but a video game sure, Uh

2033
02:01:57.159 --> 02:02:01.239
yeah, keep an eye eye out
for that. And lastly, real fast

2034
02:02:01.239 --> 02:02:08.319
because me was running along. Dennis
Dyak is back. Dennis Dyak is by

2035
02:02:08.439 --> 02:02:14.199
ak Okay, that just came out. I don't know. Uh. You

2036
02:02:14.239 --> 02:02:19.279
guys, remember he never left a
word. Uh you remember when he they

2037
02:02:19.359 --> 02:02:25.079
tried to get a sort of spiritual
successor to Eternal Darkness off the ground.

2038
02:02:25.199 --> 02:02:28.239
Yes, it's called Shadow of the
Eternals. Yes, that did not happen.

2039
02:02:28.640 --> 02:02:32.000
Yes. Uh. They had founded
a new company called Precursor Games.

2040
02:02:33.119 --> 02:02:36.640
There was some questionable stuff there.
Is there a kickstarter involved? Kickstarter?

2041
02:02:36.880 --> 02:02:41.000
Yes, that then got canceled.
Yeah, I believe was well on its

2042
02:02:41.039 --> 02:02:45.840
way to not being funded. And
then they canceled it some other dubious aspects

2043
02:02:45.119 --> 02:02:50.960
that related to like who was behind
the company and whatever. Anyway, that

2044
02:02:51.119 --> 02:02:56.239
was kind of that, uh,
and then it wasn't because now he's back

2045
02:02:57.439 --> 02:03:01.000
with some other people. Uh.
And they have a new studio called Quantum

2046
02:03:01.159 --> 02:03:08.199
Entanglement Entertainment. Oh q E two
Yes, q E two is it not?

2047
02:03:08.560 --> 02:03:12.439
Is that how they spell it?
It's like QE Squared. I saw

2048
02:03:12.479 --> 02:03:16.800
it with a railer two. But
it's not just a games company. Oh

2049
02:03:16.880 --> 02:03:20.560
no, oh no, it's not. It's social hucks. Yeah, trans

2050
02:03:20.680 --> 02:03:24.319
media. Yeah, it's trans media. They're talking about getting into games,

2051
02:03:24.359 --> 02:03:27.319
television and film production. Of course, why wouldn't you. And Shadow of

2052
02:03:27.359 --> 02:03:30.760
the Eternals sounds like it's going to
be. Yeah, sounds like Shadow of

2053
02:03:30.760 --> 02:03:38.520
the Turnals is going to be kind
of their flagship property. Yeah, it's

2054
02:03:38.640 --> 02:03:40.920
yeah, it's good. It's good
to plan for that stuff before you know.

2055
02:03:41.039 --> 02:03:45.399
If the IP has any legs and
is going to be successful at all,

2056
02:03:45.600 --> 02:03:46.880
that's that's always the way to go. Yeah, they've got a site

2057
02:03:46.880 --> 02:03:49.680
out there, you can go look
at it. They're working on something called

2058
02:03:49.800 --> 02:03:55.439
the Singularity. I think that's.
The Singularity is what they refer to as

2059
02:03:55.520 --> 02:03:59.960
this grouping of the music or the
movies and TV and like all the other

2060
02:04:00.000 --> 02:04:01.560
they're the trans media stuff. I
think that's just their fancy term for that.

2061
02:04:01.600 --> 02:04:03.920
Well, according to this, it's
a it's a no. The Singularity

2062
02:04:04.079 --> 02:04:10.800
is an open forum on their website
where avid fans can avid fans of what

2063
02:04:11.479 --> 02:04:15.399
of entertainments? Okay, yeah,
I mean yes, I'll be there.

2064
02:04:15.960 --> 02:04:19.000
I mean what it basically sounds like
is a kickstarter back or forum. Yeah,

2065
02:04:19.159 --> 02:04:23.359
it basically like forums. It's a
place where the people can go and

2066
02:04:23.560 --> 02:04:28.000
discuss the development of the stuff with
people doing it. It's a way too

2067
02:04:28.079 --> 02:04:30.560
hardest the social media engine. There
are social hooks. I just made that

2068
02:04:30.640 --> 02:04:32.960
up. Yeah, that's sounded good. But that sounds like what it's you

2069
02:04:33.079 --> 02:04:39.960
know, they want to interact people
crowdsource development. I don't know. Do

2070
02:04:40.000 --> 02:04:43.319
you think this will ever happen?
I don't know. That's the block.

2071
02:04:43.479 --> 02:04:46.880
Yeah, I mean sure, I
hope it does. Maybe people like Eternal

2072
02:04:46.960 --> 02:04:51.039
Darkness people, do you know there's
there's there's absolutely no guarantee that they could

2073
02:04:51.039 --> 02:04:55.520
replicate that. Yeah, but Dennis
Dyak has always seemed like a nice man,

2074
02:04:55.680 --> 02:04:58.560
can't hurt. Yeah, in my
interactions with him, same here,

2075
02:04:58.600 --> 02:05:01.000
which the best goes well. But
you know, I hope no one gets

2076
02:05:01.039 --> 02:05:05.720
burned. Somewhat sketchy history with some
of the stuff, so we will see.

2077
02:05:05.960 --> 02:05:11.920
He's an unreal engine. I somehow
I doubt it. Somehow I doubt

2078
02:05:11.960 --> 02:05:20.520
it anyway. Emails emails. Let's
take some BombCast at GiantBomb dot com,

2079
02:05:21.319 --> 02:05:26.000
because where you send the emails,
I did not put these in the order

2080
02:05:26.079 --> 02:05:28.960
that I meant to read them,
But now I'm gonna hold myself to it.

2081
02:05:30.239 --> 02:05:34.800
Drew. Yeah, start with an
email sort of addressed to you from

2082
02:05:34.920 --> 02:05:39.159
J N M. Should I assume
is New Mexico? But he didn't all

2083
02:05:39.279 --> 02:05:44.319
letters. Yes, the letter J
from the letters n M, brought to

2084
02:05:44.359 --> 02:05:47.600
you by the letter just writing in
the comment on one of the photos Drew

2085
02:05:47.680 --> 02:05:51.279
had shown on Friday. But first
day question, Okay, Drew, were

2086
02:05:51.319 --> 02:05:58.520
the women dressed in school uniforms?
Where the women dressed in school uniform I

2087
02:05:58.560 --> 02:06:02.319
asked, because the JK in JK
style Girls Cafe definitely doesn't stand for just

2088
02:06:02.520 --> 02:06:08.520
kidding. As Jeff and Mary funnily
suggested, it is most likely the abbreviation

2089
02:06:08.640 --> 02:06:14.079
slash slang for Joshi cocosa, meaning
high school girl. It's lucky that Drew

2090
02:06:14.119 --> 02:06:15.520
and his group went during the day, as I can't even imagine how the

2091
02:06:15.560 --> 02:06:19.920
place would be with other patrons there
being a bar. I'm sure there are

2092
02:06:20.000 --> 02:06:24.600
no actual high schoolers involved, but
damn does it still seem creepy as hell?

2093
02:06:25.640 --> 02:06:30.600
Uh? I did not see what
they were wearing so much because they

2094
02:06:30.600 --> 02:06:36.920
were behind the bar. Yeah,
when we walked in because it I don't

2095
02:06:36.960 --> 02:06:44.439
recall them looking like high school age. Okay, I missed that discussion as

2096
02:06:44.479 --> 02:06:49.119
I was not there. That's uh. I wouldn't put it past Hockhaver though.

2097
02:06:49.239 --> 02:06:51.640
Yeah, yeah, I mean,
you know a lot of sense.

2098
02:06:51.640 --> 02:06:56.319
There's all kinds of you know,
there's the Made Cafe, isn't other sure

2099
02:06:56.560 --> 02:07:03.000
other establishments of questionable repute in that
area? So mirrored floors really maybe not

2100
02:07:03.079 --> 02:07:10.199
not Caabra, but uh I did. I got another I got another email

2101
02:07:10.199 --> 02:07:14.479
from somebody who didn't include in this
saying we should come visit in Osaka and

2102
02:07:14.600 --> 02:07:17.039
that Dendon Town is way less creedy. Yeah, that's way less creedy.

2103
02:07:17.159 --> 02:07:19.960
Everything I hear is that that's the
spot. Yeah. Also, I bet

2104
02:07:20.000 --> 02:07:25.840
it hasn't been totally cleaned out right
by foreigners yet yet, but by virtue

2105
02:07:25.840 --> 02:07:28.880
of talking about it in public,
we're helping that process right along. Great,

2106
02:07:30.039 --> 02:07:35.199
all right? Uh assif or receive
a question about a picture, well

2107
02:07:35.640 --> 02:07:40.039
he was asking about that that one
in this specific Well the question was were

2108
02:07:40.039 --> 02:07:42.720
they wearing the school uniform? Okay? Oh, yes, and I did

2109
02:07:42.800 --> 02:07:46.159
have a picture of the establishment,
yes, yes, all right, Assif

2110
02:07:46.199 --> 02:07:51.800
in London wants to know about reviewing
bargos. I have the impression that review

2111
02:07:51.880 --> 02:07:56.279
bargos generally used to end earlier than
they do at the moment. I can

2112
02:07:56.319 --> 02:07:59.600
remember reading reviews and being disappointed that
the games were still a week or two

2113
02:07:59.600 --> 02:08:03.439
away from release. I rarely notice
this anymore. I understand that publishers want

2114
02:08:03.479 --> 02:08:07.399
maximum hype just as the game is
released, but sometimes a bit of notice

2115
02:08:07.479 --> 02:08:11.680
is welcome. Case in point,
I've slowly lost almost all interest in the

2116
02:08:11.720 --> 02:08:15.319
Call of Duty franchise, as it's
gone from innovation to diminishing returns to completely

2117
02:08:15.359 --> 02:08:18.399
stale. Having now read the reviews
of the latest game, I'm actually going

2118
02:08:18.479 --> 02:08:20.960
to pick it up because the reviews
all hit on release day, I'm now

2119
02:08:20.039 --> 02:08:24.399
scrambling around for a copy rather than
actually playing it. If you have an

2120
02:08:24.439 --> 02:08:26.880
inkling that your game is good and
we'll review, well, why not get

2121
02:08:26.920 --> 02:08:33.600
the word out at least slightly sooner
first, to probably address the general review

2122
02:08:33.720 --> 02:08:37.359
thing, the embargo question, Like, I don't remember there ever being a

2123
02:08:37.439 --> 02:08:43.039
time that like embargo timing was standardized, either to release day or beforehand.

2124
02:08:43.079 --> 02:08:46.159
I think it's always been like a
very much like an eighty twenty split of

2125
02:08:46.319 --> 02:08:50.880
release day versus occasionally earlier. I
feel like in buy and large it's been

2126
02:08:50.960 --> 02:08:54.039
released day stuff and kind of always
has and that's something where you know,

2127
02:08:54.279 --> 02:08:58.760
like, regardless of that, like
the data that we built over the years

2128
02:09:01.279 --> 02:09:07.680
at game Spot definitely showed that most
people were looking for review on release day.

2129
02:09:09.239 --> 02:09:11.279
That was that thing of like,
this game is out, I want

2130
02:09:11.319 --> 02:09:13.680
to know if I should buy it
right now or not, Let's go look

2131
02:09:13.720 --> 02:09:16.439
for a review. And so the
putting up a review a week early,

2132
02:09:16.560 --> 02:09:22.760
actually, like from just a raw
business perspective, was worse because it would

2133
02:09:22.800 --> 02:09:26.000
have gone up and been out of
the system, off the homepage, all

2134
02:09:26.000 --> 02:09:28.640
the other stuff by the time people
started looking for it, So it actually

2135
02:09:28.760 --> 02:09:33.560
wasn't it was less useful generally speaking, to speak directly to a call of

2136
02:09:33.640 --> 02:09:39.079
duty, I think running a review
earlier than we did would have actually been

2137
02:09:39.119 --> 02:09:43.439
pretty irresponsible because we're talking about an
online game and you need to kind of

2138
02:09:43.439 --> 02:09:46.960
see it under real circumstances at least
for a little bit. That was a

2139
02:09:46.279 --> 02:09:52.279
weird situation because of their day early
release, because didn't the game technically become

2140
02:09:52.279 --> 02:09:54.800
available and playable before the reviewer.
So that's that's actually one of the other

2141
02:09:54.920 --> 02:10:00.640
kind of frustrating things that is very
much non standardized. Is that they you

2142
02:10:00.680 --> 02:10:07.000
know, the stuff that we agreed
to was midnight Pacific time. You know,

2143
02:10:07.239 --> 02:10:09.640
you sign that stuff to get the
copies of the game and blah blah

2144
02:10:09.640 --> 02:10:11.760
blah, and then you see that
you know, oh wait, it's actually

2145
02:10:13.159 --> 02:10:20.359
releasing on the West coast and East
coast time. And that's frustrating. But

2146
02:10:20.439 --> 02:10:24.600
that's one of those things where it's
it's kind of more of an oversight because

2147
02:10:24.600 --> 02:10:26.960
people don't like to think about time
zones and do the math. And by

2148
02:10:28.039 --> 02:10:30.920
the time you realize that that's happening
again, it's too late and you're like,

2149
02:10:31.000 --> 02:10:35.640
oh, fuck shit, well all
right, maybe next time, you

2150
02:10:35.720 --> 02:10:37.399
know, And this used to be
you know, keep mind, like embargoes

2151
02:10:37.479 --> 02:10:39.640
used to be like nine am,
ten am, and some of them still

2152
02:10:39.680 --> 02:10:43.840
are on a Tuesday, and that
stuff was more meaningful back when the only

2153
02:10:43.880 --> 02:10:46.000
way to get it was to wait
for the store to open and right.

2154
02:10:46.279 --> 02:10:50.319
Yeah, and you know, the
the the advent of the midnight embargo is

2155
02:10:50.359 --> 02:10:58.239
definitely picked up a lot of steam
because of steam over the years, thank

2156
02:10:58.319 --> 02:11:03.439
you. But yeah, there are
still companies that try to say like ten

2157
02:11:03.439 --> 02:11:07.840
am borning up or six am,
and you know, and and that stuff's

2158
02:11:07.920 --> 02:11:11.800
like, yeah, there's nothing standard
about embargoes, like refinitely, it's just

2159
02:11:13.000 --> 02:11:15.399
been you know, you get a
letter with a thing and this is this

2160
02:11:15.560 --> 02:11:20.439
is what it is, and then
if it's something insane, then you like

2161
02:11:20.960 --> 02:11:22.159
go back to them and go,
no, this is nuts, Like what

2162
02:11:22.199 --> 02:11:26.439
are you talking about? Like Activision
used to try to embargo games until Wednesday.

2163
02:11:28.760 --> 02:11:31.159
You get you get a copy of
the game and a letter that said,

2164
02:11:31.199 --> 02:11:33.079
like run it Wednesday morning. It's
like PS two era or something probably

2165
02:11:33.439 --> 02:11:37.039
and used to be like fucking no, it'll be out for talking about it.

2166
02:11:39.399 --> 02:11:43.000
But in this case, like you
know, the three hours between nine

2167
02:11:43.039 --> 02:11:46.239
and midnight, we're actually really useful
for me to do kind of like my

2168
02:11:46.439 --> 02:11:50.159
final checks on live servers and I
mean the servers has been up for days

2169
02:11:50.319 --> 02:11:54.479
and there have been enough people to
play Team Deathmatch, but most of the

2170
02:11:54.479 --> 02:11:58.039
playlists were empty. So actually having
the game go up at nine, I

2171
02:11:58.119 --> 02:12:03.840
probably would have been up holding that
review until a little closer to twelve anyway,

2172
02:12:03.960 --> 02:12:07.000
just to check out the other playlists, make sure that that stuff worked,

2173
02:12:07.239 --> 02:12:09.640
you know, over real network circumstances
and not just not on land,

2174
02:12:11.479 --> 02:12:13.840
which is you know what I was
able to play like a week ago or

2175
02:12:13.840 --> 02:12:18.239
whatever it was, right, So, yeah, you know it's it's one

2176
02:12:18.319 --> 02:12:20.359
part. You know, it's one
part, like an embargo. But I

2177
02:12:20.560 --> 02:12:24.039
think it's up to the outlets ourselves
to really do the due diligence. And

2178
02:12:24.319 --> 02:12:30.319
there are some outlets that just want
to be first and they'll they'll cut whatever

2179
02:12:30.399 --> 02:12:33.720
corner they want to get it,
and that's that's fine, it's a valid

2180
02:12:33.720 --> 02:12:39.760
approach. I think it's risky.
You're you're playing with whatever trust your audience

2181
02:12:39.880 --> 02:12:41.600
is put in you when you do
that sort of stuff. And also the

2182
02:12:41.720 --> 02:12:43.960
race to be first is kind of
an endless war of attrition, you know.

2183
02:12:45.399 --> 02:12:48.279
Yeah, so you can never let
up. Yeah, some other outlet

2184
02:12:48.359 --> 02:12:50.000
is always going to be there when
you're not right, and you know,

2185
02:12:50.159 --> 02:12:54.279
so it's just it's it's exhausting.
Yeah, it's like we used to play

2186
02:12:54.359 --> 02:12:56.479
that game and it was it's hard, fucking sucked. And I never wanted

2187
02:12:56.479 --> 02:13:01.159
to run reviews that way because,
you know, we wanted to make sure

2188
02:13:01.159 --> 02:13:05.640
that reviewers had enough time to review
games and not always just rushed for the

2189
02:13:05.680 --> 02:13:07.239
embargo. We would hit them more
often than not. But you know,

2190
02:13:07.640 --> 02:13:09.840
like it's nice to do when you
can, but yeah, never want to

2191
02:13:09.880 --> 02:13:13.920
compromise the quality of the review for
it. Yeah. Yeah, so it's

2192
02:13:15.359 --> 02:13:18.960
all that stuff's really weird. Yeah, it's getting weirder because of things like

2193
02:13:18.079 --> 02:13:22.239
the Monday night steam unlocks, because
you know, yeah, and then you

2194
02:13:22.319 --> 02:13:24.439
end up with like the weird like
set your region to Australia and get it

2195
02:13:26.079 --> 02:13:28.279
eighteen hours early, and a lot
of streamers or VPNs. But you know,

2196
02:13:28.439 --> 02:13:31.600
we would end up, you know, we would end up seeing people

2197
02:13:31.720 --> 02:13:35.079
streaming or putting up screenshots of games
and stuff days before in embargo because someone

2198
02:13:35.199 --> 02:13:39.119
somewhere had broken a street date and
sold copies. And you know, that

2199
02:13:39.279 --> 02:13:43.279
used to be the thing that would
trigger us calling publishers and going like,

2200
02:13:43.359 --> 02:13:45.720
look, it's on sale in North
Dakota, Like what the fuck do you

2201
02:13:45.760 --> 02:13:50.039
want us to do? Like we
have to fucking run this, And they'd

2202
02:13:50.039 --> 02:13:52.239
be like, what are you talking
about? Its North Dakota state barely even

2203
02:13:52.279 --> 02:13:58.680
exists as a direct quote. Yeah, I'd be like, well, I

2204
02:13:58.720 --> 02:14:03.359
guess I see what you mean.
No, it's yeah, that stuff is

2205
02:14:03.399 --> 02:14:09.000
always weird, and it's it's something
that people are still adjusting to, publishers

2206
02:14:09.159 --> 02:14:11.319
are still adjusting to. I want
to say, Bethesda now has everything in

2207
02:14:11.399 --> 02:14:16.279
Bargo till nine pm Monday nights,
Monday nights basically when it when it goes

2208
02:14:16.319 --> 02:14:18.079
on sale on East Coast or unlocks
on Steam on the East Coast. Yeah,

2209
02:14:18.239 --> 02:14:20.680
yeah, I would say they they
have probably been the first to hit

2210
02:14:20.760 --> 02:14:24.680
that consistently. Yeah, And it's
just a matter of like everyone needs to

2211
02:14:24.720 --> 02:14:28.000
kind of realize that that that's how
the Usually you'll run into a lot of

2212
02:14:28.039 --> 02:14:31.600
cases where like the pr people setting
the embargoes don't even fucking know that the

2213
02:14:31.640 --> 02:14:35.960
game is going on sale nine pm, right, So in this case,

2214
02:14:35.039 --> 02:14:37.479
you know, you can call them
up and go like, hey, this

2215
02:14:37.560 --> 02:14:39.239
thing's gone long, and you might
get someone to go like, what are

2216
02:14:39.239 --> 02:14:43.520
you talking about? Yeah, that
was not No, I'm reading the thing

2217
02:14:43.600 --> 02:14:46.279
right here, Like I pre ordered
a copy of Call of Duty on PS

2218
02:14:46.359 --> 02:14:54.079
four to get that black shader for
death and Shaker rules, and damn it,

2219
02:14:54.359 --> 02:14:58.479
it's said right there in the text
that unlocked at midnight Eastern time and

2220
02:14:58.520 --> 02:15:01.199
then the countdown time or and all
the other stuff. Yeah, that stuff.

2221
02:15:01.239 --> 02:15:03.600
So yeah, it's you know,
digital games on consoles are still kind

2222
02:15:03.640 --> 02:15:07.720
of coming together, and it's still
sort of a weird thing. People are.

2223
02:15:07.760 --> 02:15:09.039
Everybody is still kind of fumbling their
way through it. Yeah, But

2224
02:15:09.119 --> 02:15:13.520
generally speaking, like you know,
people tend to look for reviews on release

2225
02:15:13.600 --> 02:15:18.359
day, Yeah, and that's usually
the actual best time to have them.

2226
02:15:18.399 --> 02:15:20.800
Totally, totally. The last thing
I'll say about it is that I've seen

2227
02:15:20.840 --> 02:15:24.479
this bizarre resurgence lately in the idea
that having an embargo set till release day

2228
02:15:24.520 --> 02:15:28.399
means the publisher thinks the game is
bad. Yeah. I don't understand where

2229
02:15:28.399 --> 02:15:30.079
that came from. I think,
you know, you end up with like

2230
02:15:30.119 --> 02:15:31.600
a lot of people that spend a
lot of time on message boards just throwing

2231
02:15:31.640 --> 02:15:35.920
conspiracies back and forth at each other, and somehow they all hit upon this

2232
02:15:35.039 --> 02:15:39.399
one again, you know. I
mean the anticipages later, yeah, and

2233
02:15:39.479 --> 02:15:43.199
the anticipation for certain games like Runs
White Hot in the days leading up to

2234
02:15:43.319 --> 02:15:46.279
it, and a lot of people
are like, you know, maybe grasping

2235
02:15:46.319 --> 02:15:48.560
at straws, going like they don't
want us to know because it's bad or

2236
02:15:48.600 --> 02:15:52.920
something. But yeah, it's the
only the only like consistent indicator that a

2237
02:15:52.960 --> 02:15:54.439
game is bad and the publisher knows
it is when they don't send it out

2238
02:15:54.479 --> 02:15:58.720
for review. Exactly. If we
don't get it ahead of time, then

2239
02:15:58.760 --> 02:16:01.239
you can probably assume like a movie. Ye, yeah, exactly. And

2240
02:16:01.439 --> 02:16:05.119
that's not just like if we don't
get it at a time, anybody,

2241
02:16:05.119 --> 02:16:09.199
anybody. Yeah, if it's a
widespread thing, you'll totally always see that

2242
02:16:09.239 --> 02:16:11.439
sidebar and newspapers and stuff like,
oh, you know, so and so

2243
02:16:11.560 --> 02:16:13.920
studio neglected to screen this movie for
critics, and it's always like horror films

2244
02:16:13.960 --> 02:16:16.119
and stuff, but they know that
critics are gonna be like, this is

2245
02:16:16.239 --> 02:16:20.319
dog shit. It's the same as
true games, you know, like one

2246
02:16:20.359 --> 02:16:22.319
and it doesn't even happen that much
anymore, but once in a blue moon

2247
02:16:22.359 --> 02:16:26.000
and something doesn't get sent out and
then you know, ye, well do

2248
02:16:26.000 --> 02:16:28.680
you think it benefits a game like
Bayonetta two to where it might not have

2249
02:16:28.720 --> 02:16:31.960
been on some people's radars? And
then reviews went up like three weeks prior,

2250
02:16:31.159 --> 02:16:35.680
and reviews were pretty much across the
board raving. When you think that

2251
02:16:35.840 --> 02:16:37.879
helps, I think maybe it helps
pre orders or something like that, like

2252
02:16:39.000 --> 02:16:43.079
yeah, yeah, maybe maybe it
it sets people up if they need to

2253
02:16:43.120 --> 02:16:46.959
get hardware or something like that,
but I don't know that that ends up.

2254
02:16:46.959 --> 02:16:50.040
It's sort of a weird. Maybe
they wanted it to serve as their

2255
02:16:50.120 --> 02:16:54.479
marketing when they had no marketing budget. Yeah, that can definitely be a

2256
02:16:54.559 --> 02:16:56.399
part of it, because they knew
that the game was good. Yeah,

2257
02:16:56.520 --> 02:17:01.760
yeah, that reviews would be positive, right, yeah, or you get

2258
02:17:01.840 --> 02:17:03.520
end them in a situation where I
don't think Bayonetta too was in this situation.

2259
02:17:03.600 --> 02:17:07.280
But if if your game is coming
out the same day as something huge,

2260
02:17:07.479 --> 02:17:11.360
like let's say someone was shipping a
game this week, you know,

2261
02:17:11.559 --> 02:17:15.079
going up against Call of Duty,
which is just going to dominate like a

2262
02:17:15.200 --> 02:17:18.319
news cycle headlines for a little bit, then maybe you want to have that

2263
02:17:18.440 --> 02:17:20.920
review hit a few days early and
just so it's out of the way of

2264
02:17:20.959 --> 02:17:26.319
that ship. But then you're just
getting into like pr and marketing theory,

2265
02:17:26.360 --> 02:17:30.719
and that's I don't know enough about
that stuff, and you're better off.

2266
02:17:30.840 --> 02:17:35.040
Yeah, I don't want to keep
it that way. That's the thing you

2267
02:17:35.079 --> 02:17:37.319
stare. You stare at it long
enough you start to figure out why they

2268
02:17:37.360 --> 02:17:43.959
do what they do, and then
then you're one step closer the edge,

2269
02:17:46.040 --> 02:17:50.079
find yourself standing on the ledge out
the window. You gaze at the abyss.

2270
02:17:50.239 --> 02:17:56.959
Hey, gaze it back. The
ABYSS says for immediate release. Your

2271
02:17:56.000 --> 02:18:01.520
soul Colin says, Hey, guys, hey, Colin on the last podcast

2272
02:18:01.719 --> 02:18:05.959
you talked about Sushi X. I
want to know what was the relationship between

2273
02:18:07.040 --> 02:18:11.040
him and wrestling Back in the late
nineteen nineties, there was always some dude

2274
02:18:11.079 --> 02:18:13.639
in the front rows holding up a
giant Sushi X sign at WWF events.

2275
02:18:15.159 --> 02:18:16.840
As an EGM reader, I could
never figure out the connection and it drove

2276
02:18:16.879 --> 02:18:20.760
me crazy. If you know the
answer, please spit some truth so I

2277
02:18:20.799 --> 02:18:22.399
can finally put this to bed.
I don't know. It's probably just someone

2278
02:18:22.600 --> 02:18:26.920
was an EGM fan that we wanted
to for that stuff. There's no legend

2279
02:18:26.680 --> 02:18:31.200
about Sushi X getting around and this
was when with us the nineties, late

2280
02:18:31.319 --> 02:18:37.719
nineteen nineties. He says an attitude
are No, I never heard anything about

2281
02:18:37.719 --> 02:18:41.319
that. We get Miguel on the
phone, try he might have some idea.

2282
02:18:41.200 --> 02:18:46.680
No, that would be before late
nineties. Would have been before he

2283
02:18:46.799 --> 02:18:54.399
did that because he was working here. Yeah, and two or three late

2284
02:18:54.479 --> 02:18:56.559
nineties would have been like who was
who was running EGM back then? That

2285
02:18:56.719 --> 02:19:01.879
was when like Riccardi and yeah,
that would have been will those guys were

2286
02:19:01.879 --> 02:19:07.840
still there? I guess so,
Yeah, I don't know. Was there

2287
02:19:07.879 --> 02:19:11.280
even a sushiac acts at that point? It was out the first time they

2288
02:19:11.360 --> 02:19:16.719
retired. Ye, I don't know, no idea. Welcome to this week.

2289
02:19:16.760 --> 02:19:22.319
So if Davis History minute, uh
he digging or something I don't know?

2290
02:19:22.600 --> 02:19:26.840
And another thing about Johnny Wilth not
if Davis History minute you want to

2291
02:19:26.840 --> 02:19:31.280
go deep? Oh boy, I
don't pen that can of worms. All

2292
02:19:31.399 --> 02:19:41.159
right, here's a Here is a
fairly lengthy but interesting email from uh Mohammed

2293
02:19:41.360 --> 02:19:45.399
writing to us from the Islamic Republic
of Iran, Okay, also known as

2294
02:19:45.520 --> 02:19:48.879
the place with the worst Internet in
the world other than North Korea. Sorry,

2295
02:19:48.000 --> 02:19:54.040
Drew, this is in the light
of I guess talking about like giant

2296
02:19:54.159 --> 02:19:58.200
and or necessary day one patches on
games and stuff. Sure, yeah,

2297
02:19:58.440 --> 02:20:05.879
last week with the Evil Within and
master Chief. He says the highest internet

2298
02:20:05.920 --> 02:20:11.840
speed here is sixteen megabit, which
equals or to one point six megabytes per

2299
02:20:11.920 --> 02:20:18.120
second and has a cap of four
gigabytes per month and is outrageously expensive.

2300
02:20:18.399 --> 02:20:22.280
WHOA, You can buy more gigabytes, but they cost about what an average

2301
02:20:22.319 --> 02:20:28.360
person makes in a month. Yes, most people I know, including me,

2302
02:20:28.639 --> 02:20:31.920
have one megabit Internet with a hundred
k per second download speed, not

2303
02:20:33.079 --> 02:20:37.639
to mention that ninety percent of the
Internet is blocked in Iran, including Giant

2304
02:20:37.680 --> 02:20:41.079
Bomb, so I have to use
a VPN to access your site. Smart

2305
02:20:41.239 --> 02:20:43.879
Wow. It takes around twenty minutes
to download the bomb cast and about three

2306
02:20:43.959 --> 02:20:50.000
to four hours to download the quick
looks. It is painful. When the

2307
02:20:50.040 --> 02:20:54.319
new consoles were announced, everyone here
dismissed the Xbox One immediately because it needed

2308
02:20:54.319 --> 02:20:56.879
to be connected to the internet twenty
four seven. We do not have MasterCards

2309
02:20:56.959 --> 02:21:01.760
or Visa cards here, so we
have to buy prepaid PSN and Xbox Live

2310
02:21:01.879 --> 02:21:07.399
cards from black markets. All that
shit aside. The economy is so terrible

2311
02:21:07.440 --> 02:21:11.159
that sixty percent of people cannot justify
spending sixty dollars on a game, so

2312
02:21:11.280 --> 02:21:13.879
we pirate the hell out of everything. The amount of new consoles sold has

2313
02:21:13.920 --> 02:21:18.000
been minimal because everyone is waiting for
them to be hacked. In conclusion,

2314
02:21:18.079 --> 02:21:22.399
I've been back in Iran for two
years and my gaming situation has been terrible,

2315
02:21:22.559 --> 02:21:26.079
to put it lightly. Sure,
I hope this email has been enlightening

2316
02:21:26.159 --> 02:21:31.000
your internet crippled follower Muhammad Wow.
Yeah, thank you. That sure put

2317
02:21:31.040 --> 02:21:35.319
some things in perspective. But if
you have a hundred K bandwidth, you're

2318
02:21:35.319 --> 02:21:39.959
not looking to play Halo online anymore. No, probably not. I guess.

2319
02:21:41.239 --> 02:21:45.559
Yeah, that one maybe the most
extreme example, which is why I

2320
02:21:45.600 --> 02:21:48.440
pulled that email. But we definitely
even got some some emails from people in

2321
02:21:48.479 --> 02:21:50.760
the US who said, like,
oh, I moved back to the family

2322
02:21:50.799 --> 02:21:54.159
farm a couple of years ago or
whatever, and I'm on like a four

2323
02:21:54.239 --> 02:21:56.319
G my Fi for my internet connection
because there's no wady to get real broad

2324
02:21:56.399 --> 02:22:00.879
band, and like, I can't
download these patches either, you know,

2325
02:22:01.000 --> 02:22:03.360
people talking about going to the library
to download PS four firmware, undo a

2326
02:22:03.479 --> 02:22:07.280
USB stick. What if this is
a safe way for me to go to

2327
02:22:07.360 --> 02:22:11.600
Iran. I don't know, That's
not really why I brought that email up.

2328
02:22:11.200 --> 02:22:15.280
Good luck with that. Just install
a bunch of patches on an Xbox

2329
02:22:15.399 --> 02:22:20.040
one, bring it over there and
sea. Yeah. Yeah, uh yeah,

2330
02:22:20.120 --> 02:22:22.520
it's weird. I feel like,
uh, I feel like the generally

2331
02:22:22.559 --> 02:22:26.360
poor state of American broadband has been
in the news a bit lately. Yeah,

2332
02:22:26.399 --> 02:22:28.120
I don't know if. I don't
know if like a report came out

2333
02:22:28.159 --> 02:22:31.520
on international broadband or something like that, but I feel like it's been a

2334
02:22:31.520 --> 02:22:35.239
headline enough lately. That's definitely one
of the things where you take the entire

2335
02:22:35.319 --> 02:22:37.879
country into consideration. Yeah, it's
it's the ships. It's bad. I

2336
02:22:37.920 --> 02:22:43.319
mean even even even in the best
served areas, Like what you're getting for

2337
02:22:43.360 --> 02:22:48.479
the money is a fucking joke compared
to other parts of the world. But

2338
02:22:48.879 --> 02:22:54.079
clearly we have it a lot better
than some people. Uh, make it

2339
02:22:54.079 --> 02:23:01.280
a utility. Yep. Although mm
they were handling off. I want I

2340
02:23:01.280 --> 02:23:03.399
don't know if I want. I
don't know if I want the public sector

2341
02:23:03.639 --> 02:23:09.959
entirely in charge of keeping the Internet
going to some man in a turtleneck sweater.

2342
02:23:11.159 --> 02:23:13.120
Yep, there you go, Dan, ps keeping the Internet running.

2343
02:23:13.120 --> 02:23:18.479
There you go, Dan. I
wanted to know your thoughts on jose Can

2344
02:23:18.520 --> 02:23:26.120
Saco accidentally shooting off his middle finger
regards Nate. I was watching the game

2345
02:23:26.200 --> 02:23:28.719
at the bar back in Kansas City. My dad went out to smoke,

2346
02:23:28.120 --> 02:23:31.719
and I got a text message saying
jose Can Saco just shot his finger off,

2347
02:23:33.319 --> 02:23:37.360
and I started laughing really hard,
no any context, just picture you,

2348
02:23:37.520 --> 02:23:39.040
like falling off your bar. I
laughed pretty hard, and then I

2349
02:23:39.159 --> 02:23:43.799
checked my Twitter and like eight thousand
people that tweeted me the same thing,

2350
02:23:43.319 --> 02:23:46.879
and I really just had to have
this moment with myself, where's like,

2351
02:23:46.159 --> 02:23:50.000
how much of a dick? Am
I willing to be on Twitter here.

2352
02:23:50.559 --> 02:23:54.559
Yeah that's a rough one because that's
a funk. That's a bad But you

2353
02:23:54.600 --> 02:23:58.120
know how much of it? How
much was his middle finger? He shot

2354
02:23:58.159 --> 02:24:00.520
it off, clean off all the
way. I think so, and I

2355
02:24:00.639 --> 02:24:05.000
think they maybe reattached it. Okay, so this is not a tragedy.

2356
02:24:05.559 --> 02:24:09.959
No one was scrippled, no one, and no one's you know it.

2357
02:24:11.079 --> 02:24:16.280
It probably sucked a lot, but
I didn't tweet anything directly to him.

2358
02:24:16.600 --> 02:24:22.319
I just said keep being you,
jose Can Saco and uh. I put

2359
02:24:22.399 --> 02:24:24.319
one of my books that has nothing
to do with jose Ca and Sacho on

2360
02:24:24.399 --> 02:24:28.760
sale to commemorate unrelated news smart So
yeah, that's some good synergy there.

2361
02:24:30.280 --> 02:24:33.520
But it's like the most jose Can
Saco thing and he could ever do.

2362
02:24:33.040 --> 02:24:37.760
Uh, how do you do that? This is the handgut fucking your responsible

2363
02:24:37.799 --> 02:24:41.079
gun on her shift its gears.
Yeah, how much How much of a

2364
02:24:41.200 --> 02:24:43.159
fucking idiot do you have to be
to wave a gun around or clean it

2365
02:24:43.200 --> 02:24:48.040
without making sure that it's not loaded. He's a really big idiot. Yeah,

2366
02:24:48.600 --> 02:24:50.840
Like, you know, I still
want to do that video. People

2367
02:24:50.920 --> 02:24:54.479
go home run derby me against you, and some people are routinely killed by

2368
02:24:54.520 --> 02:24:58.440
the sort of thing. So he's
lucky. Was just a finger, Yeah,

2369
02:24:58.840 --> 02:25:01.559
he's an idiot. My dad lost
his middle finger on his right arm,

2370
02:25:03.440 --> 02:25:07.600
right hand. I guess, uh, and then I guess what.

2371
02:25:07.840 --> 02:25:09.319
His index finger was kind of bent
at the first knuckle, kind of like

2372
02:25:09.399 --> 02:25:13.360
that permanently. It was like got
caught in a tire machine years and years

2373
02:25:13.360 --> 02:25:16.840
and years ago and h and yanked
off. It was always really fun.

2374
02:25:16.639 --> 02:25:22.360
Uh. When he would shake people's
hands, he said he could see people

2375
02:25:22.559 --> 02:25:26.520
like just maintaining eye contact with him
and like freaking out, like they want

2376
02:25:26.799 --> 02:25:33.520
they either stare down immediately or lock
eyes and try and like not look my

2377
02:25:33.639 --> 02:25:37.479
cousin. My cousins fully lost his
pinkie in a wood shop working accident,

2378
02:25:37.559 --> 02:25:39.719
and we're not able to reattach it. So imagine that handshake, like it's

2379
02:25:39.920 --> 02:25:43.399
yeah, do you very much have
that reaction of like just act weird?

2380
02:25:43.479 --> 02:25:46.760
What's going on down there? I
really want to know, but I can't

2381
02:25:46.799 --> 02:25:48.920
know. If I look, then
I'm a dick. Yeah, it was.

2382
02:25:50.319 --> 02:25:56.680
Yes, Fingers they're good to have. Yeah, you should have ten

2383
02:25:56.799 --> 02:25:58.520
if you can, if you can, if you could have more, that's

2384
02:25:58.559 --> 02:26:01.760
cool too. I mean I don't
know. It's probably cool. Let's go

2385
02:26:01.920 --> 02:26:05.920
for fall on more Arms if you
can pull it off. Yes, probably

2386
02:26:05.920 --> 02:26:11.639
super useful. Matt from Virginia has
a question. Hey, guys, I've

2387
02:26:11.680 --> 02:26:16.239
noticed three or four conversations recently in
which you mentioned the release dates of all

2388
02:26:16.280 --> 02:26:18.559
the major games coming out this fall. That's true, we have it on

2389
02:26:18.600 --> 02:26:24.440
the brain at the moment. Not
once have you even mentioned a Little Big

2390
02:26:24.479 --> 02:26:26.680
Planet three in these discussions, and
in fact, you have specifically mentioned that

2391
02:26:26.760 --> 02:26:31.399
Sony has no big first party titles
coming out from now until the end of

2392
02:26:31.440 --> 02:26:35.399
the year. Guilty is charged.
We have done that. Yeah, no,

2393
02:26:37.159 --> 02:26:39.159
uh huh. Go on. Are
you just forgetting about a Little Big

2394
02:26:39.159 --> 02:26:43.559
Planet three or do you not consider
it a major release? I know it's

2395
02:26:43.600 --> 02:26:46.159
not PS four exclusive, it's PS
three as well, but it seems like

2396
02:26:46.200 --> 02:26:48.120
it should at least get mentioned when
you talk about upcoming games this fall.

2397
02:26:48.879 --> 02:26:52.799
I enjoy the series and I'm personally
looking forward to the third game on my

2398
02:26:52.879 --> 02:26:54.840
PS four just thought it would I
would mention it in case you guys have

2399
02:26:56.319 --> 02:26:58.760
somehow forgotten about it. I'll say, for my part, I have forgotten

2400
02:26:58.760 --> 02:27:01.600
about it every time. I like
that series a lot. I think you

2401
02:27:01.719 --> 02:27:05.719
lose something when you take Medium Molecule
away from that, because I mean,

2402
02:27:05.719 --> 02:27:07.840
I think so much their personality went
into those games. Well maybe true.

2403
02:27:07.879 --> 02:27:11.959
I don't know that. I can't
say ready to throw the other the new

2404
02:27:11.000 --> 02:27:13.959
developer under the bus yet in the
new game. But but you know,

2405
02:27:15.040 --> 02:27:16.959
I loved one and two and I
thought, like the VIDA and PSP ones,

2406
02:27:18.000 --> 02:27:20.680
we're all right, they were fine, but I thought they were kind

2407
02:27:20.719 --> 02:27:24.120
of lacking. I personally thought a
Little Big Planet was a fantastic one and

2408
02:27:24.200 --> 02:27:26.360
done sort of thing. I've been
fine. The stuff they did into to

2409
02:27:26.559 --> 02:27:33.399
build it out further was was impressive. Sure, but at this point I

2410
02:27:33.479 --> 02:27:35.680
did like when they get out there
and say, and it's got full compatibility

2411
02:27:35.799 --> 02:27:41.600
with the previous games, Like that's
not a positive to me from completely break

2412
02:27:41.639 --> 02:27:45.200
it, break it and make something
crazier. You know, that is so

2413
02:27:45.319 --> 02:27:48.639
crazy that none of that old shit
works, like you know, change the

2414
02:27:48.680 --> 02:27:52.000
physics, like you know, the
the jumping physics, like you could get

2415
02:27:52.079 --> 02:27:54.559
by in those first couple of games, because so much of it was so

2416
02:27:54.719 --> 02:27:56.479
novel, And now I just look
at it and you're like, I don't

2417
02:27:56.520 --> 02:28:01.399
want to I've done this twice,
Like the the four player, the different

2418
02:28:01.479 --> 02:28:03.399
characters like that's I don't that doesn't
really appeal to me. Yeah, Like

2419
02:28:03.959 --> 02:28:07.799
nothing that they've shown of that makes
me go like, yeah, a little

2420
02:28:07.799 --> 02:28:09.239
bit Plan three. Yeah. I
mean, you know, no ill will

2421
02:28:09.319 --> 02:28:13.799
toward anybody who's excited about it,
but I am not, yeah, remotely

2422
02:28:13.879 --> 02:28:16.440
excited about it, and I just
have admitted it a couple of times.

2423
02:28:16.159 --> 02:28:20.719
I would say that it's I feel
that we stick by our original statement.

2424
02:28:20.600 --> 02:28:26.319
Sony. Maybe it doesn't have anything
I'm looking forward to. I don't think

2425
02:28:26.319 --> 02:28:28.200
it's gonna blow me away, but
yeah, yeah, I guess so.

2426
02:28:28.479 --> 02:28:33.479
I just, uh, it feels
a little wrote to me. Yeah,

2427
02:28:33.639 --> 02:28:35.120
a little by the numbers. It's
a little bit of like what is a

2428
02:28:35.639 --> 02:28:39.840
what's a franchise we can easily pass
off to another developer and they can safely

2429
02:28:39.920 --> 02:28:41.840
iterate on. And that's what I
feel like on PSP and Vida, Yeah

2430
02:28:41.920 --> 02:28:45.000
totally. And you know, like
what, you know, what, what

2431
02:28:45.159 --> 02:28:48.239
can they leverage the strength of brand
loyalty with you know, it's like people

2432
02:28:48.319 --> 02:28:52.440
like these games and some number of
them will buy another one. It was

2433
02:28:52.520 --> 02:28:54.760
kind of the thing that bummed me
out when I was writing the Sunset over

2434
02:28:54.840 --> 02:28:58.200
Drive review. I can't remember if
I actually ended up putting this line in

2435
02:28:58.360 --> 02:29:01.120
or not, but like the immediate
tendency is to say, like, oh,

2436
02:29:01.200 --> 02:29:03.479
this is a great start for a
new franchise. Or I saw a

2437
02:29:03.520 --> 02:29:05.600
lot of people out there going like, oh, it's a great new ip.

2438
02:29:07.959 --> 02:29:11.079
Like I know that's you know,
it's a it's a sequel and hit

2439
02:29:11.159 --> 02:29:13.360
driven business. But like, how
much of a bummer is it that it

2440
02:29:13.440 --> 02:29:16.200
can't just be it's a great new
game, you know, Yeah, like

2441
02:29:16.479 --> 02:29:20.479
everything has to be the start of
a new franchise that you will see three

2442
02:29:20.559 --> 02:29:24.600
to six entries in if it's if
it's good and successful, you know,

2443
02:29:24.719 --> 02:29:28.040
it's too expensive to do anything else. I know, I know. It

2444
02:29:28.079 --> 02:29:33.719
doesn't mean I can't help lamenting it
a little bit. Yeah, but I'm

2445
02:29:33.719 --> 02:29:37.639
sure a little big planet really fine. All right, here's a question from

2446
02:29:37.680 --> 02:29:43.479
Jake uh in the wake of this
price cut. He's talking about the Microsoft

2447
02:29:43.559 --> 02:29:46.280
or the Xbox price cut, which
I'm sure it was referenced in the subject

2448
02:29:46.319 --> 02:29:48.040
line that I cut off. In
the wake of this price cut, I

2449
02:29:48.079 --> 02:29:52.280
started to wonder if this has ever
been done before. If it has,

2450
02:29:52.520 --> 02:29:54.959
If it has, how long did
it take for the price to go back

2451
02:29:54.040 --> 02:29:58.280
up. What do you think is
the likelihood that Microsoft just keeps this price

2452
02:29:58.360 --> 02:30:01.680
cut even after the holidays. I
want to say that there's been temporary price

2453
02:30:01.760 --> 02:30:05.360
cuts before. Certainly. Usually it's
like if they're trying to like blow out

2454
02:30:05.440 --> 02:30:09.760
some pre stocking stock, Yeah,
to make room for something new. Although

2455
02:30:09.799 --> 02:30:13.280
this game, in this case,
it's crazy because they're three bundles. What's

2456
02:30:13.360 --> 02:30:16.760
the third, oh, call Duty? Yeah, all three game bundles are

2457
02:30:16.879 --> 02:30:20.719
holiday games, right, so these
are new like fresh al, Assassin's Sunset,

2458
02:30:20.760 --> 02:30:26.399
Overdriving, and Call Duty. They're
all fresh out of the manufacturing two

2459
02:30:26.520 --> 02:30:28.559
stores. Yea, so this is
obviously just a push to build user base.

2460
02:30:28.639 --> 02:30:31.920
But yep, I think you're right. But I can't think of any

2461
02:30:31.959 --> 02:30:37.479
examples of when this has happened temporarily. I don't I don't think they keep

2462
02:30:37.559 --> 02:30:39.760
the price No, I don't think
they keep the price cut. I think

2463
02:30:39.760 --> 02:30:43.120
they they put it back up.
This is just a going for it,

2464
02:30:43.319 --> 02:30:46.000
like let's get everybody we can and
take the hit on. Yeah, let's

2465
02:30:46.000 --> 02:30:50.959
take the hit for the holiday and
then get it back up there and you

2466
02:30:50.079 --> 02:30:54.479
know, get back to where we're
comfortable. And then I'm sure you know

2467
02:30:54.760 --> 02:30:58.280
they like everybody else is working on
cheaper ways to make their consoles. Yep.

2468
02:31:00.600 --> 02:31:03.479
Yeah, there's some news floating out
around a new PS four revision.

2469
02:31:03.680 --> 02:31:09.280
Sure, but it's it sounds like
it's super basic. It was I think

2470
02:31:09.280 --> 02:31:11.000
it was uncovered from like an FCC
filing or something, and it's and it's

2471
02:31:11.000 --> 02:31:16.239
stuff like they if they're using a
different type of Wi Fi antenna now or

2472
02:31:16.319 --> 02:31:18.840
something like that. Just real basic
stuff. Yeah. Yeah, I want

2473
02:31:18.840 --> 02:31:22.760
to how many revisions of the PS
two where they're like nine or cycling right,

2474
02:31:22.920 --> 02:31:24.319
one a year or something like that. Yeah, but most of the

2475
02:31:24.360 --> 02:31:28.280
more just internal revisions, Yeah,
just ways to make it, shave a

2476
02:31:28.319 --> 02:31:31.200
little bit of money here and there, streamline the manufacturing, stuff like that.

2477
02:31:31.239 --> 02:31:35.399
It looked like there might be a
new controller revision also on the way.

2478
02:31:37.520 --> 02:31:39.040
Anything they can do to get the
battery life up in that damn thing.

2479
02:31:43.079 --> 02:31:46.079
Yeah, that is a constant source
of frustration for I guess I just

2480
02:31:46.120 --> 02:31:48.079
sit close enough to my TV that
it's not an issue. I could I

2481
02:31:48.120 --> 02:31:52.399
could get a long enough yeah cord, or I could plug it into the

2482
02:31:52.479 --> 02:31:54.719
MacBook or something, right, but
at a certain point, I don't want

2483
02:31:54.760 --> 02:31:58.520
to plug wireless control. Yeah,
it's a wireless controller I want to enjoy

2484
02:31:58.559 --> 02:32:01.239
it wirelessly. It's a shame how
fast you have to plug that thing in,

2485
02:32:01.520 --> 02:32:11.200
because I really like the control.
Earthwise drew from Toronto. It's kind

2486
02:32:11.200 --> 02:32:16.680
of a somberg email from the tea
and yet hopeful. Sadly, after two

2487
02:32:16.760 --> 02:32:18.840
years, my wife and I are
getting divorced. It was not to be.

2488
02:32:20.120 --> 02:32:22.879
Things are amicable and we have no
children. We're happy with our new

2489
02:32:22.959 --> 02:32:26.239
lives. However, we are in
the middle of finalizing how we divide our

2490
02:32:26.319 --> 02:32:31.280
stuff. Man and I am left
with a difficult choice. What game console

2491
02:32:31.360 --> 02:32:35.040
do I take? We both bought
our Xbox one and PS four as a

2492
02:32:35.079 --> 02:32:39.040
couple. I own more single player
games on the PS four, but more

2493
02:32:39.079 --> 02:32:41.799
of my close friends own an Xbox
One, and so this is where I

2494
02:32:41.959 --> 02:32:46.120
bought most of my multiplayer focused games, Destiny, et cetera. My wife

2495
02:32:46.200 --> 02:32:48.760
is letting me choose. What do
I do? How do I make this

2496
02:32:48.840 --> 02:32:52.360
Sophie's choice? Keep the PS four
because it goes for more money right now,

2497
02:32:52.399 --> 02:32:54.879
and then you can buy a cheaper
Xbox One to replace it. Yeah,

2498
02:32:54.879 --> 02:32:56.840
I would say, if you want
to have both of them in your

2499
02:32:56.879 --> 02:33:00.719
home right now, keep the PS
four. Good, Buy one of those

2500
02:33:00.719 --> 02:33:05.040
discounted xboxes. Yeah, but if
you're not looking to have both right away,

2501
02:33:05.719 --> 02:33:07.159
maybe the Xbox. If he's gonna
be playing with friends. I would

2502
02:33:07.239 --> 02:33:09.319
figure if you're going to the divorce, you probably don't want to be sitting

2503
02:33:09.319 --> 02:33:13.120
around by yourself the way, but
you also don't want to be sitting around

2504
02:33:13.159 --> 02:33:15.760
playing games either. Get those friends
and say, hey, I don't have

2505
02:33:15.760 --> 02:33:18.520
an Xbox and we can't play games. Let's go drink. Yeah. Actually

2506
02:33:18.600 --> 02:33:22.000
that's the right. Yes, Yeah, hit the gym. Hit the gym

2507
02:33:22.079 --> 02:33:30.120
and anger your way through it,
Fleach your Facebook, whatever, fleet everything,

2508
02:33:30.319 --> 02:33:33.200
sever whatever the Internet tells you to
do when you go through a breakup.

2509
02:33:33.520 --> 02:33:41.520
Fucking burn it all down. Get
a fucking Guy Fieri haircut kid out

2510
02:33:41.600 --> 02:33:48.600
there. Brother, I feel slimy
noo. Yeah, well that's probably by

2511
02:33:48.639 --> 02:33:54.120
design. Uh yeah I would.
Yeah, I would keeps four and by

2512
02:33:54.159 --> 02:33:58.680
a cheap Xbox. But that's just
me. Okay, do we have more

2513
02:33:58.719 --> 02:34:03.479
emails? We do? Here's one
from Brandon. I like the people just

2514
02:34:03.520 --> 02:34:05.600
asking us random ask questions. Now, what is the origin of the verb

2515
02:34:05.680 --> 02:34:09.719
to book, as in to hurry
up or move quickly? Example, the

2516
02:34:09.799 --> 02:34:13.159
dragon was about to eat me,
so I had to book or we have

2517
02:34:13.239 --> 02:34:16.159
to book it on out of here
before Brad starts talking about doda again.

2518
02:34:16.959 --> 02:34:20.360
I always thought it was a strange
shortening of the slang to boogie, also

2519
02:34:20.440 --> 02:34:22.799
meaning hurry up. But the more
I think about it, the more I

2520
02:34:22.879 --> 02:34:26.959
think that's not that's too far off
to be accurate. And maybe I'm just

2521
02:34:26.000 --> 02:34:28.959
way out of the loop on this
one. Anybody have any ideas? Oh

2522
02:34:30.159 --> 02:34:31.399
boy, I mean I could google
it, but I'm not going to.

2523
02:34:31.879 --> 02:34:35.559
Yeah, I know, I'm putting
it to the panel of experts here.

2524
02:34:35.000 --> 02:34:37.920
No, uh, yeah, I
think it's just you know, it's if

2525
02:34:37.920 --> 02:34:43.120
you look at the when we talk
about books, we often go back to

2526
02:34:43.159 --> 02:34:50.399
the good book, okay, and
and look what got done in seven days

2527
02:34:50.440 --> 02:34:54.479
there? Exactly booked his way right
through creation, exactly the fucking that they

2528
02:34:54.559 --> 02:34:58.840
booked right through that ship. Or
didn't they throw the book at you the

2529
02:35:00.040 --> 02:35:03.799
police station? They book you like
book him Dan, they do that.

2530
02:35:05.440 --> 02:35:13.120
Who throws a book that judge?
Maybe yeah, yeah, m hmm.

2531
02:35:13.840 --> 02:35:16.799
Maybe you want to run fast to
avoid the book that's gonna hit you.

2532
02:35:18.520 --> 02:35:20.159
Yeah. Part of part of me
hope this would be some kind of long

2533
02:35:20.200 --> 02:35:26.000
lost hip hop slanging, but apparently
not. It could be, but cheese.

2534
02:35:26.040 --> 02:35:28.799
I think I think it dates back
cheese. It it's the fuzzy No,

2535
02:35:28.959 --> 02:35:35.799
yeah, I couldn't tell you.
I would be tempted to say it's

2536
02:35:35.879 --> 02:35:39.840
like some some kind of Valley Girls
slang, some kind of I want to

2537
02:35:39.840 --> 02:35:41.440
say it's older than that, and
no, no, no, it could

2538
02:35:41.479 --> 02:35:46.120
be. Yeah, it probably is, but we got a book like I

2539
02:35:46.159 --> 02:35:50.959
don't know. Yeah, I'll believe
that until somebody proves otherwise. Yeah,

2540
02:35:52.399 --> 02:35:56.760
all right, let's say this is
the last email. Let's all right,

2541
02:35:56.200 --> 02:36:03.559
let's do that from David. I'm
going to admit his Twitter account. Can

2542
02:36:03.600 --> 02:36:07.000
you ask Dan to unblock me on
Twitter? All I said was it wasn't

2543
02:36:07.040 --> 02:36:09.920
really impressive. The Guns and Roses
released two albums in one day. There

2544
02:36:11.040 --> 02:36:13.719
is a zero percent chance I've blocked
you because I don't block anyone. He

2545
02:36:13.760 --> 02:36:16.200
could mute me if he wants.
I just want to see his feet in

2546
02:36:16.280 --> 02:36:18.799
my stream again. My account is
blank. I'll tell you what it is

2547
02:36:18.920 --> 02:36:22.200
later. I'll look at it.
But like I never block anyone. Yeah,

2548
02:36:22.319 --> 02:36:24.920
yeah, I rarely mute. I
mean I don't. He seems to

2549
02:36:26.000 --> 02:36:30.520
think that you have shut him down. If that's the case, it was

2550
02:36:30.680 --> 02:36:33.840
certainly for something that wasn't about Guns
and Roses. Yeah, I don't get

2551
02:36:33.879 --> 02:36:37.840
offended. I don't block people.
I don't. This is one of those

2552
02:36:37.879 --> 02:36:41.920
things where people complain about their form
moderation and they completely misrepresent what it was

2553
02:36:41.000 --> 02:36:43.079
that got the band. It must
have been because there is, yeah,

2554
02:36:43.079 --> 02:36:46.239
a zero percent chance I blocked someone
because of a Guns and Roses. I

2555
02:36:46.280 --> 02:36:50.479
mean, to be fair, that
is an outrageous statement that What was the

2556
02:36:50.479 --> 02:36:52.840
statement that it's not impressive that the
Guns and Roses put out two albums in

2557
02:36:52.920 --> 02:36:56.479
one day. It is extremely impressed. I find that to be a feat

2558
02:36:56.639 --> 02:37:00.280
a towering feet. What about the
band dan is that they had at the

2559
02:37:00.280 --> 02:37:03.760
warehouse? It has yet to be
repeated in the music industry. Was that

2560
02:37:03.760 --> 02:37:07.000
would that make it more impressive that
the warehouse had custom Guns and Roses bandanas

2561
02:37:07.040 --> 02:37:09.360
for the release? Wait? What
do you mean banos? They had like

2562
02:37:09.479 --> 02:37:13.559
black bandanas for when User Illusion came
out. Oh the w H E R

2563
02:37:13.639 --> 02:37:16.200
E House? That warehouse? Yes, that warehouse. I think you met

2564
02:37:16.239 --> 02:37:18.520
the warehouse where the CDs. No, no, no, no, they

2565
02:37:18.559 --> 02:37:20.959
had they had like promotional animal bandanas. That's pretty cool. I think I

2566
02:37:22.000 --> 02:37:26.200
have one somewhere. I was I
was just barely too young to be like

2567
02:37:26.520 --> 02:37:28.719
an autonomous mall goer at that point, Like I was not old enough to

2568
02:37:28.799 --> 02:37:31.120
I didn't have any friends that could
drive me to the mall, so I

2569
02:37:31.280 --> 02:37:35.159
wasn't like out there seeing what it
was like. When the New Guns and

2570
02:37:35.239 --> 02:37:37.479
Roses album came out, Yeah,
mess that that was by the time,

2571
02:37:37.959 --> 02:37:39.840
by the time I was able to
drive, they were fucking done. You

2572
02:37:39.959 --> 02:37:43.840
lived through the release of Chinese Democracy, so you know exactly that's by exclusive?

2573
02:37:43.959 --> 02:37:48.719
Chinese Democracy? Was that really a
best by exclusive? Was Joe?

2574
02:37:48.360 --> 02:37:50.600
Of course? What a fuck?
Of course it was. I still,

2575
02:37:50.719 --> 02:37:54.079
you guys need to get on me
next time we get John Drake on here

2576
02:37:54.200 --> 02:37:56.200
to tell the story. Yes,
I really want to hear that. We

2577
02:37:56.319 --> 02:37:58.399
have you not even heard it?
You? You? You or somebody told

2578
02:37:58.479 --> 02:38:03.239
me told me the story once.
Here's a video on YouTube John Drake's life

2579
02:38:03.280 --> 02:38:05.200
Hill. And I think Alex was
there at the time too, for about

2580
02:38:05.239 --> 02:38:11.440
a week during e three two thousand
seven or eight eighth, So but I

2581
02:38:11.479 --> 02:38:13.079
want it's not the same without Drake
here because I actually want to hear his

2582
02:38:13.159 --> 02:38:18.000
full experience of him putting out fires
because of some shenanigans I did before I

2583
02:38:18.040 --> 02:38:20.040
worked in the industry, I do. Before I knew Drake, you know,

2584
02:38:20.200 --> 02:38:22.959
yeah, I do want to get
that story publicly documented, which I

2585
02:38:24.079 --> 02:38:26.159
told him at the bomb cast,
the first one I was on at E

2586
02:38:26.280 --> 02:38:30.040
three. I pulled him into a
room him, Pope and Alex and think.

2587
02:38:30.040 --> 02:38:31.280
I was like, hey, remember
this thing a few years ago?

2588
02:38:31.600 --> 02:38:33.639
That was me. Oh, they
didn't know it as you No, not

2589
02:38:33.719 --> 02:38:37.920
at all. Wow. I waited
until I knew them long enough to know

2590
02:38:37.959 --> 02:38:39.079
that they wouldn't want to kick my
ass. Yeah, that seems like playing

2591
02:38:39.120 --> 02:38:43.000
with fire. I mean, those
guys seem like fighting guys. To make

2592
02:38:43.120 --> 02:38:48.639
no mistake, John Drake wants to
kick your ass, not necessarily for this.

2593
02:38:48.719 --> 02:38:52.799
I do want him sitting right here
across the table that stuff to get

2594
02:38:52.879 --> 02:39:00.479
Drake back down here. Yeah.
Great albums very same day, I miss

2595
02:39:01.120 --> 02:39:03.920
I just it was one of the
things where like by the time they came

2596
02:39:03.920 --> 02:39:05.920
out, I was kind of done
with guns and Roses. Yeah, you

2597
02:39:05.959 --> 02:39:09.399
weren't into the ballad stuff. They're
stranged and locomotive and remember Rain for I

2598
02:39:09.399 --> 02:39:13.360
mean I remember Rain and Don't Cry. It was just on MTV all the

2599
02:39:13.399 --> 02:39:18.319
time those albums. Ballad which wasn't
a ballad locomotive. Okay, I'm thinking

2600
02:39:18.360 --> 02:39:20.760
more just lengthy songs. That's a
long song. I don't even know if

2601
02:39:20.760 --> 02:39:24.000
I call those ballads. There are
more strange and don't cry or fucking rock

2602
02:39:24.159 --> 02:39:31.840
ballots are like operatic ballad, sells
them short, my friends, It's just

2603
02:39:31.959 --> 02:39:35.840
like a Axel Roses operatic wankery for
nine minutes of which is the best axe

2604
02:39:35.879 --> 02:39:39.079
are O? No? I mean
yeah, I love that ship. Hip

2605
02:39:39.120 --> 02:39:41.280
hop is getting into that, isn't
every song is two songs? Now?

2606
02:39:41.879 --> 02:39:46.000
Drake does it all the time.
Logic. This guy just put out this

2607
02:39:46.040 --> 02:39:48.639
album. It's got a nine minute
fucking track on it. It just goes

2608
02:39:48.719 --> 02:39:52.760
through like three full changes, three
movements. Yeah, basically like you know,

2609
02:39:52.840 --> 02:39:56.879
it's the same theme but of the
course of Yeah, basically three movements.

2610
02:39:58.079 --> 02:40:01.559
Like half of Drake's songs now seemed
like they are two songs. Wow.

2611
02:40:01.719 --> 02:40:03.520
That just at some point, it's
just like there's a breakdown and it

2612
02:40:03.559 --> 02:40:05.959
never comes back from it, right
because now all of a sudden, it's

2613
02:40:05.959 --> 02:40:09.200
a different song. Sure. Prince
was the musical guest on US Now this

2614
02:40:09.280 --> 02:40:11.639
week, and he was on for
like in one segment, like over ten

2615
02:40:11.680 --> 02:40:13.799
minutes and played like nine different sounding
songs. Yeah, and no one gets

2616
02:40:13.840 --> 02:40:18.040
to do that except for I guess
if you're well, yeah, I mean

2617
02:40:18.159 --> 02:40:20.959
the Prince doesn't do it at all
unless he gets to do something like that.

2618
02:40:22.040 --> 02:40:24.520
I'm sure. I just want to
see the conversation between Prince and Lauren

2619
02:40:24.559 --> 02:40:26.479
Michaels. That sounds like something I'd
like to say. I would be surprised

2620
02:40:26.520 --> 02:40:30.799
if that conversation occurred. Actually I
heard that what I've heard about Prince,

2621
02:40:30.879 --> 02:40:33.399
I actually did hear that Chris Rock
was the one that lobbied for it,

2622
02:40:33.600 --> 02:40:35.200
Yeah, or on behalf of Prince. I mean, if you notice he

2623
02:40:35.399 --> 02:40:39.840
like he subverted the he subverted the
entire structure or the show. He showed

2624
02:40:39.920 --> 02:40:43.120
up and played one eight minutes set
and then vanished. And if you notice

2625
02:40:43.120 --> 02:40:46.399
he was not standing with the cast, you always staying with the cast at

2626
02:40:46.440 --> 02:40:48.280
the end. He was, he
was there, he was just in the

2627
02:40:48.319 --> 02:40:52.840
back being short. I read a
thing about what he was on American Idol

2628
02:40:52.920 --> 02:40:56.440
years ago, and uh, they
basically didn't know. It was like the

2629
02:40:56.479 --> 02:41:00.920
season finale or whatever said they had. I think the Kodak is where they

2630
02:41:00.959 --> 02:41:03.159
were, which is like where the
oscars. Yeah, like it's been the

2631
02:41:03.200 --> 02:41:07.440
big theater in La at the time, and it's like a two hour Galla

2632
02:41:07.639 --> 02:41:11.959
Live event and they Blake supposedly didn't
know for most of the show as it

2633
02:41:11.079 --> 02:41:16.040
was taping live if he was gonna
show up or not nice because the way

2634
02:41:16.120 --> 02:41:20.760
he comes in, like the music
literally starts playing over Ryan seacrests Seacrest stretching.

2635
02:41:20.760 --> 02:41:24.479
You can do too much tell he
is stretching, just trying to get

2636
02:41:24.479 --> 02:41:26.680
people to applaud and stuff, and
all of a sudden, Prince just starts

2637
02:41:26.719 --> 02:41:30.399
playing because he finally showed up and
came out on stage. I used to

2638
02:41:30.479 --> 02:41:33.000
work in Crazy Person. I used
to work with a guy that directed Prince's

2639
02:41:33.079 --> 02:41:37.120
music videos, like for a weird
like bad Dance era thing or whatever.

2640
02:41:37.159 --> 02:41:39.840
He's like a marketing guy, a
game informer, and you know Minneapolis he

2641
02:41:39.879 --> 02:41:41.280
directed bad Dance. I don't think
he did bad Dance. He did some

2642
02:41:41.360 --> 02:41:45.559
weird one around that era. But
like Prince would just call him up at

2643
02:41:45.559 --> 02:41:46.399
like two or three in the morning
and be like, I've got an idea

2644
02:41:46.440 --> 02:41:48.600
for a video. Come out here. We've we've got to get set up.

2645
02:41:48.760 --> 02:41:52.559
And so this guy would have to
drive out to Paisley Park and like

2646
02:41:52.600 --> 02:41:54.879
I spend all this time setting up
all the lights and stuff on this sound

2647
02:41:54.920 --> 02:41:58.319
stage and like, all right,
Prince ready to go. I don't want

2648
02:41:58.319 --> 02:42:01.200
to shoot a video. It's a
god at Prince. I mean, if

2649
02:42:01.239 --> 02:42:05.360
you I'm sure a lot of people
listening to this have read or heard Kevin

2650
02:42:05.440 --> 02:42:07.559
Smith's stories about dealing with Prince,
but if you haven't, you should lift

2651
02:42:07.559 --> 02:42:13.479
for that stuff. It's interesting.
Yeah, sure you've been being the lives

2652
02:42:13.520 --> 02:42:18.120
in his own world. Yeah,
well you use your religion too, is

2653
02:42:18.159 --> 02:42:22.079
probably better? Yeah, of course, yeah, yeah probably. I don't

2654
02:42:22.120 --> 02:42:24.799
like getting the ring. Yeah,
that's a dumb one. I ran into

2655
02:42:24.840 --> 02:42:30.639
some trouble with that song. I
don't think I've mentioned recently my dad took

2656
02:42:30.680 --> 02:42:35.280
the tape away song. He's ranting
about Bob Guccioni Junior or whatever. Ye,

2657
02:42:35.840 --> 02:42:39.879
pretty much it's about time BombCast a
giant bomb dot com, Penthouse dirt

2658
02:42:39.959 --> 02:42:46.239
Bags, yep, BombCast at GiantBomb
dot com. Send the emails there,

2659
02:42:46.000 --> 02:42:50.360
perhaps they will be read. I
believe that is going to do it for

2660
02:42:50.479 --> 02:42:56.680
this podcast. Uh, what's going
on in the site this week? Are

2661
02:42:56.719 --> 02:43:00.959
we ready to commit to anything?
Well, we already basically actually it's on

2662
02:43:01.000 --> 02:43:03.959
the site now. Yeah, it's
a metal gear scaling. Uh, sons

2663
02:43:03.959 --> 02:43:09.440
of Drewberty yep, man, all
right, I can go all the way.

2664
02:43:09.559 --> 02:43:11.760
Huh, that's going up. Yeah, we just played it earlier,

2665
02:43:11.959 --> 02:43:15.000
Drew, h Drew. I don't
want to spoil how far he gets or

2666
02:43:15.000 --> 02:43:16.399
anything, but you know he's seen
some of the tanker and everything. Can't

2667
02:43:16.520 --> 02:43:20.200
yeh, can't waste to the controls. Can't wait to hear your ideas for

2668
02:43:20.239 --> 02:43:24.600
sneak Eater. Oh oh yeah,
I haven't done of that yet. Yeah,

2669
02:43:24.639 --> 02:43:26.120
that's gonna be his favorite. I'm
calling it out nothing off the top

2670
02:43:26.159 --> 02:43:30.440
of my head. Yeah, but
yeah, I'm working on two. I'm

2671
02:43:30.440 --> 02:43:33.040
already getting reminded of a lot of
stuff that I forgot about in that game.

2672
02:43:33.959 --> 02:43:35.920
It's it's gonna be a good ride, all right. I know there

2673
02:43:37.000 --> 02:43:39.280
was something else that was disgusted.
I don't know if it's been scheduled.

2674
02:43:39.399 --> 02:43:41.920
Oh, I think I know what
you're talking about. Maybe we should just

2675
02:43:41.000 --> 02:43:43.840
let that one go. Yeah,
I'll say that I'm really excited about I

2676
02:43:43.879 --> 02:43:46.799
bet you are. I'll leave it
at that. We're gonna trying to have

2677
02:43:46.920 --> 02:43:52.000
the archives. Yes, we're finally
almost done with her, like ninety six

2678
02:43:52.079 --> 02:43:56.159
plus hours. Yeah, that's a
lot to dump on a website. Yeah,

2679
02:43:56.159 --> 02:43:58.479
so that's why we're like making sure
everything is in order, specially yeah,

2680
02:43:58.479 --> 02:44:03.319
with multiple video formats and things that
have to be cut together and yeah

2681
02:44:03.639 --> 02:44:07.920
transcoded and blah blah blah. That'll
be up soon. And I think I'm

2682
02:44:07.959 --> 02:44:11.319
gonna bring a jar in from home
and answer some questions here in the office.

2683
02:44:11.680 --> 02:44:16.360
Interesting for a change, Yeah all
right, yeah, like just at

2684
02:44:16.440 --> 02:44:20.360
your desk, I don't know.
Yeah, maybe everybody milling around. Yeah,

2685
02:44:20.079 --> 02:44:22.920
I don't know. I just thinking
about ways to change some of that

2686
02:44:22.959 --> 02:44:28.879
stuff up, Like maybe like we
need some more like widespread Q and A.

2687
02:44:28.399 --> 02:44:31.639
Alex used to do that column.
Yeah, you should do that again.

2688
02:44:31.719 --> 02:44:35.079
Like maybe we need to figure out
like what's a what's a better way

2689
02:44:35.120 --> 02:44:37.159
to do that sort of stuff to
get more people involved, Like you do

2690
02:44:37.280 --> 02:44:41.120
your jar thing, Patrick, what's
Patrick's coffee? Relating to think, Yeah,

2691
02:44:41.120 --> 02:44:43.879
I don't know coffee. Yeah.
I thought about doing one myself,

2692
02:44:43.920 --> 02:44:48.079
but I didn't want to bite anybody's
style. Come up with a unique spin.

2693
02:44:50.040 --> 02:44:56.000
Sure, I'll do wrestling and food
you can do. You can just

2694
02:44:56.079 --> 02:44:58.200
do dating advice. Let's not get
too high concept with our content ideas.

2695
02:44:58.280 --> 02:45:03.479
Dan actually Jesus world's not ready.
Maybe y'all, I'll let my guinea picks

2696
02:45:03.520 --> 02:45:07.360
play dive kick, all right?
How about that? Sure? All right?

2697
02:45:07.040 --> 02:45:13.760
Well, we are going to workshop
these ideas away from microphones. Thanks

2698
02:45:13.799 --> 02:45:16.079
for listening. Stay tuned for more
next week.