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Let me give everybody a formula that
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and in life. E plus R
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event and say it's not a great
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We have to remember there's a plus
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how you respond, and if your
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things like I've got this, I
can do this, well, how

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can I best move forward? How
can I still achieve the goals that I

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want in this situation? What do
I need to do? Here's an event

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that affects so many people in golf. E slow play outcome oftentimes ruins my

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tempo. My game fell apart.
So we're blaming something outside of ourselves which

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we have no control over on our
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next time you play slow play outcome, lose my tempo, there goes my

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game. The R is the key. Hi. This is Bob Ferris from

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Meridian, Idaho, and I play
at Centennial Golf Course. This is Golf

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Smarter number nine hundred three. The
fastest and easiest way to consistency is through

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flow state golf with Debbie O'Connell This
is Golf Smarter, sharing stories, tips

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and insights from great golf minds to
help you lower your score and raise your

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golf IQ. Here's your host,
Fred Green. Welcome to the Golf Smarter

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Podcast, Debbie, Fred, thank
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here with you. I love I
have a natural tendency to be attracted to

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overachievers, so you and I are
going to be really good friends. We

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thank you. You are you are. Reading your resume and everything you've done

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just makes me want to ask a
lot of questions. You're quite remarkable.

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Well, thank you so much.
I hope I can deliver for your audience

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and help everybody learn some great things
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Well, one of the things I've
been saying about Golf Smarter since the very

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beginning is that I really believe that
if you have an understanding of strategy or

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what we call a course management,
and have a strong metal game, that

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you can lower your scores faster than
if you just work on your swing mechanics

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and in reading your ebook, which
I really enjoyed. Thank you. You

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even say spending time on mindset is
the fastest and easiest way to improve your

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game. So we're already in sync. We are. And it's so true

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because when you step up to any
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with confidence, you increase your chances
of hitting a better shot when you have

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that belief in yourself, when you
can visualize the shot so clearly the way

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you want it, you will step
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if you don't. And what's great, Fred is you can improve every part

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of your game with the mindset shift. So it's not like, Okay,

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let's go work on mindset for putting
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and now let's go spend mindset on
chipping. It's not We improve mindset

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and every area of your game,
and ultimately, truly your life will also

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improve. So tell me and please
give me long answers. I have no

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problem with long answers. People think
they need to give soundbites. You don't

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need to do that here. But
let's talk about what your ebook. Let's

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share what it's all about, and
what the flow state is and how to

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get there. It's it's a fascinating
state of mind. There is a researcher,

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me Hi Chick sent me. High
is his name. I think he

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has every letter in the alphabet in
his name. Back in nineteen in the

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nineteen seventies, he went on this
world tour and researched people who were really

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happy and excelling in life, and
excelling in terms of fulfillment and joy as

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opposed to just success as sometimes we
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or homes or cars, but it
was encompassing and those who were also excelling

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in their hobbies and their sports.
What he found was they would get to

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this certain state of mind where pretty
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mind would take over, and all
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automatically take over and they could play
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life in the present moment, which
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And after years of studying this,
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needed to do to invite flow state. Now here's the key with flow state.

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You can't try to get into it. You can't force yourself to get

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into it. You have to set
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after all, it is flow.
So we want to have flow and you've

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all been in flow state. Imagine
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and you arrived home and you just
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I don't remember driving home at all. You can't even picture what you

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were doing, what you were thinking, almost like you just drove the car.

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Or you realize you were thinking about
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you went on one of those automatics
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going one direction and then turned to
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the old habit. So you've all
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that. So what happened in that
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in about eleven million bits of information
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and doing all the great techniques that
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as your conscious mind was somewhere else. And that is truly flow staked.

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But so many golfers, recreational golfers. I don't want to talk about elite

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level golfers because it's too hard to
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they're at that space that we're trying
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think, oh, I can get
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there's no trust in what they're doing. I mean, I play that's who

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I am, that's who I play
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see it and especially hear it.
I've played with some people the other day

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and after the first hole, I
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be a long day. It's like, dude, give yourself a Break's that

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triple bogeye is out of your system
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But how does the recreational golfer believe
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Such a great question. I remember
I was a head golf professional for fifteen

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years at a couple of different clubs, and the member would come in and

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I'd say, hey, mister or
miss whomever it was, how are you

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today? Well, I don't know, I haven't hit a golf shot yet.

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It was oftentimes the answer. And
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gosh, if you would be in
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to have an amazing day, you
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than having your golf game influence how
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day is going to be like.
So it truly is mindset, and there

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are conscious strategies. And when you
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game of golf. It is basically
conscious strategies, which I agree and I

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teach it, and it is so
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I also go deeper with my coaching
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But it does start with your thoughts. Your thoughts influence your emotions and

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then your body language. So if
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heard about the power posing all right, if you just stand in a confident

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way, you literally can start to
shift the hormones in your body and feel

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more confidently. I mean most people
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Wells are also our emotions react to
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more confidently thinking positive thoughts. I
don't know if you remember the story about

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Amy Brocker step She played the sixteenth
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Phoenix, Arizona, and during the
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was there as well, but Gary
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three the Yeah, so I imagine
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but there were still hundreds of people
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down syndrome, but she is a
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plays a great game. She's been
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so she had this opportunity. And
when she started, the PGA put

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a microphone on her so you hear
her talking to her dad on the first

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hole and he says, she got
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and you could tell she was back
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the t shot, it goes in
the greenside bunker and Gary's you know,

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saying, wow, what a great
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swing. And as she's walking,
she's looking at everybody in their waving in

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their clap and she's like, oh
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know. She is so in the
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this because imagine yourself in that situation
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quite a few hundred people in this
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professionals. How many people would start
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going to think and don't embarrass herself. So think of that language and what

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it does to then your performance compared
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So she goes and Gary says,
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is saying I've got this, I
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this, and she steps You're listening
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her the whole time because she's miked
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tear jerker. So she hits it
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The crowd goes crazy, Gary and
the caddy they're high five and her

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way to go, well, an
awesome, Amy, You're awesome. This

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is great, and she's like thank
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many of you out there don't accept
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and she takes the compliment. Then
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right to left, and she says
yes, and he says, you got

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this, and she said I got
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do this, I've got this.
I've got this. She steps up.

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Now the crowd just quiets. Gary
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pot, about a ten footer.
She strokes, it breaks a little left

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or right, goes in the cup. I mean, I have chills telling

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you. The story goes crazy.
Gary's like, oh my god, you're

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amazing. You're amazing, and they're
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you so much. This was great, all right, and it was just

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so such a learning experience for everyone. The video went viral. Now Gary,

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this is this is what is so
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that year in the US Open,
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day, he kept saying, I
got this, I can do this.

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I've got this because he learned it
from Amy, and he went and he

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credited Amy with that last day that
he was able to handle the nerves of

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the day because of course, and
everyone out there, you will get nervous

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when you have an exciting opportunity that
means a lot to you. You're about

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to shoot your lowest score ever,
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You start off your round and you're
playing way better than you expect, and

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you're on the sixth hole and you'll
look and you're like, oh my gosh,

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or someone says, wow, you're
playing great today. If you start

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to feel the nerves and you know
it's okay because you're excited for the opportunity

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and it means a lot. So
that's what Gary was going through and he

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ends up winning the US Open,
and afterwards he did he credited Amy for

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helping him get through that last day. And Fred, what brings this home

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to me is Amy, who,
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She went on to get a golf
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syndrome to play in a national athletic
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You've Got This Foundation and she helps
other people with Down syndrome and other emotional

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disorders and helps them to empower them. And where I met Amy the first

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time was in a program we have
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co wrote the curriculum and I was
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class in Phoenix, Arizona, and
we talked about your thoughts and body language

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and believing in yourself and what I
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was you can say things like I've
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ran with it and then impacted millions
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her to achieve all the success that
she's achieved in her world. So it

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starts with the mind for sure that
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Okay, I'm still recovering. Um. That was a phenomenal story. And

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I actually, you know, I
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the waste management and the grand stands
were still up and I'll never forget even

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though they were empty, how intimidating
it was to tee off at the sixteenth

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ball. It was incredible, all
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people not accepting it. You know, there's this acceptance that doesn't happen,

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and that is so important in golf
because even though you've made a good golf

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swing, or maybe you didn't but
got a good result, why do we

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have to blame things versus just accepting
Okay, that's what happens in golf.

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How do you deal with it?
Worry about the next shot, not what

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just happened? Right, Well,
Fred, That is such a great question.

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And this is where my coaching takes
the mental game of golf to a

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whole different level called mindset, because
it's all about the meaning that you put

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to the shot. So when you
hit a poor shot, what is the

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meaning you put to it? And
it goes actually back to unconscious beliefs.

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Think of a perfectionist who when they
were a kid, if they got a

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ninety nine on a test and brought
their test home and their parents said,

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well, what happened on the one
you got wrong and never praised them for

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the ninety nine questions they answered,
well and got the right answer. What

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happens is we start to develop a
belief that I have to be perfect to

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get recognized, to be to feel
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so many people out there have that
belief I'm not good enough, and then

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the meaning they put to a poor
golf shot goes to see I'm not good

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enough or if I'm not perfect,
they feel worse about it. Then,

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Really, the golf shot warrants and
what our brain doesn't really know the difference

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between a bad golf shot and when
they were maybe a kid, and they

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felt unworthy or not cared for.
They're like, oh no, what does

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this mean? I didn't do it
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brain works so fast and go boom. So I have other clients who hold

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the club too tightly most people do, so loosen up your grip as great

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advice I can give you. If
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to start to examine what is it
about control? When how do I feel

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if I let go of control?
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they feel unsafe and again, your
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from the path asked that made someone
feel unsafe, or maybe a bunch of

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fear came up to feeling an effortless
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fluid. So it's to get into
flow state. What I do, along

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with my master certified coaches, is
we go into the unconscious mind and figure

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out, Okay, what is the
meaning you put to that poor shot or

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that triple bogie, or when you're
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you're all a sunna worried about what
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What is the meaning you put to
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you an example. One of my
clients would never step away from a shot,

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even though her thoughts maybe went somewhere
else, and she felt like she

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had to hurry up and didn't want
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were behind her. It also influenced
how she played. She's a single digit

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handicap player, so she explained this
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oh my god, Debbie, I
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couldn't hit driver because I'd hit it
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hybrid in my hand, and I
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practice when because we were a little
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I could top it. And she
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shot without thinking because I didn't want
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I hit it through the fairway.
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why. It always seems I'm aware
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stop myself. Well, when we
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put to having people wait? You
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other questions to get to this.
But we got to the meaning that she

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put to it was really she was
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Because when she was a kid,
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say to her, if you're not
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come to pick you up, I'm
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her dad wait, and her brain, our unconscious mind doesn't know the difference.

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So making people wait on the golf
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wait, it seems the same unconsciously. So she said, I am always

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early for everything. I never make
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I'm abandoned. Even so we go
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release it. So there's nero linguistic
programming, timeline therapy. We literally can

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shift the belief on that. And
now she was so funny. I was

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talking to her. She said,
I can't believe this. I'll even step

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away into and start my pre shot
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or if I if I'm distracted.
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She's not a slow player in general
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actually a situation where maybe she hits
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time and think through it, make
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a practice wing, and be in
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helps her to play her best golf. So it's fascinating. When I got

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deeper into this, I was even
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conscious reframes. Now I do the
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both. I work both side the
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the fastest, easiest results. And
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when we're in flow state, we
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at all what people think. Our
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we're just totally immersed in the present
moment. Yeah you wrote that in the

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book Conscious Mind Shuts Down. Yes, yeah, yeah. It's interesting because

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mulligans are not encouraged, they're not
legal. But I've always said you can

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step away from the shot and take
a mental mulligan and it doesn't on your

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scorecard, and people will hopefully be
understanding of like, wait, I need

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to reframe this because but it's so
hard to do because now all of a

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sudden, Oh wait, my foot's
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that's all you're thinking about now is
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what you're there to do, and
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golf shot. And most people think, oh, hit it anyway, right

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right, I've done that. I
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yeah, of course, Or some
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right you feel off balance, something
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you doubt the club you have and
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in what we call the playbox and
you're like, yeah, oh wow,

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that wind. I don't know if
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is the right club, Go ahead
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Really that does take someone you know, unconscious mind reframes possibly and conscious mind

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awareness, and just start to do
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and you'll start to develop a better
habit. I now can literally be ready

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to swing and I'll start my backswing
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and I just keep walking with it, and I'm gad to do this over

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just because all of a sudden,
I really recognize it. So it's that

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awareness and if all of you could
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and then when they're not serving you
shift them. So that's what you can

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do while you play. While you
play, shift things. And it starts

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with awareness that, oh my gosh, I'm just everything I'm thinking is negative

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right now, I'm totally criticizing myself. We have this voice called the inner

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critic that comes out often and golf, and that inner critic is just nailing

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you to recognize that and say no, I don't deserve that, and then

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shift it. And then between rounds, get get with another coach, you

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know, and you're all welcome to
reach out to me. And I have

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a team of master certified coaches you
know where we can help. Go.

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Okay, what's coming up that you
have a tendency to criticize yourself so much,

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so do that work between on the
golf course. Take charge of your

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mental state, take charge of you
know where your thoughts are. Here's here's

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one of the greatest tips that everyone
really pay attention to this because it will

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help your golf game every round.
Go to gratitude. You literally cannot be

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stressed and thankful at the same time. So they've tested people and they put

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them in the stressful situation and they're
there, you know, all the electrodes

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on, they've all the monitors and
everything, and they say, okay,

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now, think of things that you
really appreciate, and they'd start going to

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a gratitude, you know, think
about family or people they love, or

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that they can see, that they
can walk. Imagine if you're out on

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the course and it's like, wow, what a beautiful day I'm experienced.

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Wow, how so thankful I can
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blind people play golf, so if
you can see, you know,

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people in wheelchairs play golf. So
if you can walk, we can be

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grateful. And if you can't,
thankful for the chair or the cart that

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allows you to play. You know, what can you be grateful for when

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you're out on the golf course The
beauty of golf, the game of golf,

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that you're healthy enough to be out
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sudden, your stress, the negative
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Sometimes right, we all feel that
we're so frustrated and angry because Fred,

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you asked, how do we get
rid of that triple bogeye. Well,

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as you're walking to the next whole, go to gratitude and it'll you'll I've

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done it. It eases that angst
that was there, and all of a

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sudden, your shoulders can drop.
Put a smile on your face. Number

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two, put a smile on your
face. Literally, you release your own

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happy drug serotone and dopamine, and
everything will shift physically and mentally for you,

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and then you'll be able to get
back to your own rhythm and tempo

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and timing and get focused and play
back to your ability use those things while

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you're out on the golf course.
So incredibly powerful, and you're in charge

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of it. So when I teach
this, I I remind people you are

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in charge of how you feel.
You are in charge, you know,

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don't give in to that inner critic
and the angst or the frustration, or

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the anger you might feel, or
the embarrassment, whatever comes up. Don't

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give into it. Shift it,
change your thoughts, change your body language.

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Go to gratitude, put a smile
on your face, and you will

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notice a major shift in your body
and you'll pay You'll get back to playing

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great golf. It's hard to feel
fill in the blank here, frustrated,

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being a victim, feeling anxious,
as long as you have gratitude. It's

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something that well, we talked about
a few weeks ago and my wife was

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on the show and about her book, and let's take another time out and

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we'll talk about that more. But
we'll right back. The pressure of performance,

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The pressure of a short put anytime, let alone on the eighteenth hole

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when it means something is something we
all have a sense of. M We

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all understand the pressure. But you've
had it in so many different sports.

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You've really achieved such incredible things.
What was harder that final strike bowling three

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hundred, or a short put knowing
that this could win, or any length

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put that could win a tournament for
you, You're you're amazing. But you've

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achieved both, right, Yeah,
And I've hit the free throw. I've

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hit the free throw. And you
were in the final four right in college?

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Yeah, I've played in the final
four. We actually had a game

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when I was a freshman against Old
Dominion in Rop Arena in Kentucky. I

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went to Western Kentucky University, so
the Red Tawel tradition and Diddal Arena.

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We had a packed house over fifteen
thousand people for a regular season women's basketball

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game. We set the record in
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And I was a freshman and coming
down the stretch, they it was a

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very close game. They were fouling
me because I was a freshman, So

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I missed the first one, and
then from then on every time they found

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me. I made the rest of
them down the stretch. And I tell

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you, breathing is a key and
then the focus on your target. So

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yeah, that one. Those are
good. But here's the difference. In

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basketball. You're running around, so
you don't really feel the nerves. You

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know, all of a sudden you're
in the situation, but your hearts pounding

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because you've been running around anyway,
and all that adrenaline that you get running

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around and the neurochemicals that are released
for exercise, they actually help you to

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stay calm or calm or in that
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You know it and it's important,
you know It's it's not as physically

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noticeable. When I had eleven strikes
in a row and I stepped on that

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the lanes and everyone's behind me,
no one else is bowling in the entire

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place. No way, is this
a competition or just some random It was

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league. It was a league.
It was league. Okay, so everybody

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every every week's competition. For sure. I didn't need it for the competition.

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It was just something that I desired
for so long, and I kept

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blowing it. And here's what,
you know, how I talk about the

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unconscious beliefs. I would get nerves. My heart would start pounding when I'd

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get seven in a row, and
if I was lucky enough to get the

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eighth, it was really pounding.
And I would start to focus on these

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nerves and try not not to feel
so nervous. Because when I was a

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kid, I would watch wide world
of sports. Do you re memor?

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They thrill, the victory, the
you know? So I would watch watching

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on TV. We get Yeah,
I'd watch these sports, and inevitably,

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if an athlete had a pressure situation
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the announcer would say, all the
nerves got to them, the pressure really

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got to them. And if they
succeeded, I remember hearing, wow,

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he or she has ice in their
veins, you know. So I was

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I had a belief that if you
felt nervous, you couldn't perform just by

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watching and taking that in and how
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didn't know that it's okay to feel
nervous. You just had to switch your

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focus instead of focusing on the nerves, let your body do what it's going

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to do. It's natural to feel
nervous in a situation where it's important to

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you. So here I am.
And now I went to a sports psychologist

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because I kept failing, and all
of a sudden, I was like,

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maybe I get too nervous to have
a three hundred game. I'll never have

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one, okay, And I went
no, I got to figure this out.

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So and then I went to a
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She was a certified licensed hypnotherapist,
and so I was doing meditation.

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So I was worried reframing my unconscious
mind beliefs as well as learning consciously what

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to do in that situation. I
also took bowling lessons from Nelson Burton Junior,

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who was a PBA Hall of Famer. So between asking him those questions

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my sports psychologist, the meditations,
I was ready for this moment, didn't

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me and I didn't feel nervous.
I was shaking everywhere. I wasn't even

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sure I could walk. I mean, my heart was pounding. I got

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up, I took the breath,
and I just said, me in my

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spot. I'm a spot bowler.
I had a spot in the lanes and

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fred I threw as good a ball
on that twelve ball as I did the

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first one. I actually threw twelve
that were so it flows state exactly the

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same rhythm temp bow timing. It
felt so good coming off my hand,

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and I'm doing one of these,
and I'm like, oh my gosh,

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Oh my gosh. And I watched
to go in and I just jumped up

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and down because you know, all
of you remember this. Sometimes the more

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challenging it is to succeed in the
goal, the more meaningful the goal will

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be when you finally achieve it.
And I cried, and I just it

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was an incredible moment. But that
you know, and you can all do

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that. Just make sure you focus
on the result, that you won't imagine

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that, and then in the moment, breathe and have a very narrow focus

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and stay present. Because it's different
than anxiety, which is fear of the

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future. I wasn't afraid if I
didn't get it. It was just important

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to me. So I was nervous
to get it, but I was in

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the present moment. And that's a
huge key for all of you to succeed

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in the situation now in golf,
I actually a lot of times will put

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a smile on my face when I'm
about to put so I'm in that pressure

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situation. I look down, I
get it. I feel my heart pounding,

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I take my breath, I have
the picture of the hole in my

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mind as I look at the ball. I've literally smiled because and then I

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just had that little extra between the
breath and the smile. My body just

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got relaxed enough to perform it.
And it keeps you from clenching your jaw

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and adding that tension right that might
be in your shoulders and your jaw and

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your neck. Smiling is going to
release all that, right well, absolutely,

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And a great drill for everybody is
take a potato chip when you're practicing.

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Put it between your teeth so you
like this Tata chip, and swing

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and don't break that chip. So
that means you're swinging effortless. Because so

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many people have power less efforts,
and what you want in the golf swing

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is effortless power. You know that
swing where you swing you're like, I

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didn't feel like I did anything,
and it went better than ever. It's

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because you used your entire body,
used and you were in perfect rhythm temper

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timing. That's what golf is.
It's a dance. Just get your rhythm

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and tempo in timing. Let the
ball get in the way of your beautiful

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move. Um the pre shot routine. Well, I eat peanut butter pretzels

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when I play, so I'm definitely
gonna put one door in my mouth next

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time I take a drive and see
if I crush it and leave crumbs all

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over the place. But the drive, fred crush the drive, don't crush

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the peanut butter pretzel. Don't.
Yes, we'll do We'll do. Um

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a pre shot routine. We talk
about it a lot and the importance of

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it and the people. I don't
know if everyone understands the value of it.

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You must have an incredible pre shot
routine. I would think for bowling

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as well, because it'll get you
into a place where you're like, I

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need to be comfortable here, So
preshot routine will do that. Even shooting

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free throws. Now, obviously can
have a pre shot routine when you're in

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the flow of a basketball game and
everything's reactionary. But I would think that

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those three spots, golf, bowling
and free throws a pre shot routine is

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critically important one hundred percent, and
not enough amateurs put enough time into this.

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Your brain loves familiarity, and that's
why sometimes we stay in places in

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our world that are familiar that may
not be the best, because our brain's

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like, no, at least,
this is familiar. It may not be

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the best, but it's familiar.
So when you get into a preshot routine,

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it doesn't matter the situation, whether
it's high pressure or not. You

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start your preshot routine, your unconscious
mind is like, oh, this is

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familiar. Oh yeah, this is
what we do. This is our routine,

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and there's a calming effect to that, and it helps you get into

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the present moment. You watch any
sport on TV. You know, tennis

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players will bounce the ball the same
amount of times. Do the same move

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basketball players on a free throw,
Like you said, well, do the

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same thing. I would bounce the
ball three times, take it up and

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then I'd shoot. So that was
my routine. I mean, I know

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I haven't played, you know,
I've graduated college a while ago, but

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so I had that routine. There
is a colleague of mine told me a

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story about Jack Nicholas and his routines. His putting routine never changed. And

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he actually saw a video of Jack
early in his career and late in his

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career, and they started two videos
at the same exact moment they hit play,

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and then occasionally they would hit pause
on both of them, and he

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was in the exact position if he
was taking a step and his right leg

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was in the air three inches on
the one video, it was the right

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leg in the air three inches on
the other. That's how precise Jack Nicholas

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was. So that leads me to
believe that we can all get better.

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So many people say, yeah,
I stand behind the ball, I take

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my practice swaying, and then I
set up, I look at the target

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and I swing. Well, how
many steps do you actually take between the

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time you take your practice swing and
walk into what we call the playbox.

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So if you start like do it
take the right, right, left,

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right? Do you turn? Then
do you have your feet together and step

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out left right? How many wiggles
do you do? You know, if

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you get more precise with it,
it's actually going to help you stay in

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a flow state or get into a
flow state. Welcome the flow state.

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It will help you in pressure situations
to just get into your routine and then

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get focused in the present moment.
It is so powerful, and I encourage

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every one of you to make sure
you have appreciat routine and then literally practice.

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And I'm not say you have to
be as good as Jack Nicholas tomorrow.

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What I'm saying is start to have
one and then say, okay,

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then start to notice how far back
you stand, how many steps does it

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take me? Okay, I'm really
comfortable with this event like it's a process.

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It's a process. Take your time, but have one, and it

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may be different. Mine is different
for putting and different for chipping than it

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is for my full swing because in
putting and chipping I like to stand right

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next to the ball and feel the
pace. In my full swing, I

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stand behind it and I like to
swing down the line. So I don't

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stand next to the ball. But
you choose for you what works that I

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do encourage a point in your practicing
where you visualize the shot, because the

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more clear you are with your outcome
and the intention you have for the shot,

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the more your brain can help you
achieve it. So I encourage that.

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I encourage a practice swing because our
club's way different things. They have

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different lengths, so you want to
just feel and let your body know here's

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the club I have in my hand. So I do encourage those two things

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for sure somewhere, but develop your
own And about that visualizing, here's what

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I tell people with visualizing shot,
Visualize it like it means the world.

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Be precise on a chip shot,
how high is it going to fly?

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Where is it landing? How much
is rolling? On your full swing shots?

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See what kind of shape is it
going to be? Where is it

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landing? See it rolling your put
see it rolling down the line as precise

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as you can get. And then
when you get into what we call the

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playbox, now swing like you don't
care where it goes. And that's the

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tricky part of golf, because now
you have to release the outcome, get

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in the present moment, and then
let your talents take over. All right,

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another time out, Let's find out
what's happening on golf Smarter Mulligans this

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Week. This Week on Golf,
Smarter Mulligans is the first of two consecutive

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episodes from twenty eleven that made such
an impact on me that twelve years later

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I still consciously incorporated into my swing
today. I've even tried to get this

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guy or his son on the show
for the last few years for an update,

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but they've kind of disappeared from the
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the app are still available. Our
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ur Tempo after years of talking about
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tempo. His theories were picked up
and confirmed by researchers at Yale University.

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But the more I looked at swings, good players came out to this three

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to one. And how we did
it was by frame counts. As you

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watched video on your TV, there
are thirty still frames per second of video,

519
00:39:44,559 --> 00:39:46,320
so when you're off a couple of
frames, it can really mess up

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your swing. And our best example
of that ever is Tiger Woods and the

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two thousand and two opened at Bethpage
that he won by a mile. He

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was consistently twenty four eight on all
his full swing it's just twenty four,

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twenty four eight, twenty four eight, just kept doing it. And guess

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what if you read our article in
Sports Illustrated about Tiger that we put out

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in September, and it's also the
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a Pro and how to Change It. Please subscribe for free to both of

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It's called Golf Smarter Mulligans, being released

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every Friday from wherever you're listening right
now. You mentioned multiple times the playbox,

534
00:40:58,559 --> 00:41:01,440
the shot the thought box. I
always called it the thought box in

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00:41:01,519 --> 00:41:07,639
the shot box. But it all
comes from Vision fifty four, Lynn Marriott,

536
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:13,360
Pia Neilson, who are amazing teachers
and get referred to almost as much

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as Manolo, but it's a different
conversation. Tell me about your preshot routine

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and your use of the thought box
in the playbox, Oh absolutely, And

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00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:30,800
it even goes to right brain,
left brain right, So our left brain

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00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:36,599
that thinking brain right, So it
goes from checking out the lie looking at

541
00:41:36,639 --> 00:41:42,519
the wind, so you're literally thinking
and analyzing and choosing your club. Now,

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00:41:42,639 --> 00:41:45,960
something that I teach you know,
when I'm working with professional athletes with

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I do a lot of work in
corporate America as well and executives. I

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help people, you know, in
preparation of their day in their round.

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So I think pre shot starts pre
round and with a meditation to invite your

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intuition to be your loudest voice,
because I think when you're making those decisions

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in the conscious way, your intuition
can also help you because how often do

548
00:42:10,679 --> 00:42:15,039
you hit the right club with the
right yardage and you just blasted over the

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00:42:15,039 --> 00:42:21,840
green, It's because your adrenaline was
going. So I encourage and that's why

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I was certified and hypnosis and I
do meditations because I so believe in inviting

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that intuition rather than the inner critic, to be your loudest voice and literally

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help you in those decisions. So
there you are in there, and there

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are times that I will literally put
my hand on the club and I was

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the intuition, is this the right
club? Because I'm between clubs or the

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wind or it's uphill and I'm deciding
and your intuition is right. Then that's

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that you all know your intuition.
It's that voice that that one day said

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take the umbrella and you looked at
side. You're thinking it's sunny skies and

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the weather. I don't see a
prediction of rain. And then about five

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00:43:00,199 --> 00:43:02,639
o'clock you're like, darn, I
knew something told me I needed to bring

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my umbrella today. Well, that
was your intuition. And it does it

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either it's a feeling inside or a
little voice in your mind that tells you.

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Sometimes it's it's that time you said
I should have done I knew I

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should have I knew something told me. And that that that's a voice to

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listen to on the golf course.
So pre round, I encourage I have

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a pre pre golf meditation that I
have all my clients use and it truly

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does help them to get in a
great mental state. Before the round,

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and then the think box that's when
you make all those decisions. And then

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you step over what we call the
decision line, you know, blend and

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be a great friends of mine and
colleagues and love learning from them. And

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then I'm sharing with them what I'm
doing on the unconscious mind and they're loving

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what I'm doing as well. So
it's a it's a great it's great to

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have those colleagues that we can have
these conversations with whom we can. So

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then you step into the playbox and
now it's time to play. You want

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to go right brain, you want
to be that creative mind and just visualize

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the target and get yourself in that
present moment, totally immersed in that moment,

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and it's you in that golf ball
and like I said, in that

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thing box, visualize a shot like
it means the world. And now you

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step in and let yourself perform.
You know, Mickey Wright, this has

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one of the best had one of
the best golf swings ever. She was

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back in the nineteen fifties early on
in the LPGA, had over eighty two

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wins on the tour. Many say
she's well, I think her a Anica

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probably the two best players. She
retired a little bit young, like Anica,

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and people would ask her. The
reporters would say, Mickey, it's

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amazing we watch you play and the
ball seems to go at your target every

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time. What is your secret?
She said, I don't care where it

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goes. That's how I hit it
where I want it. I don't care

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where it goes. So it's again, instead of getting ahead of yourself and

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00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,039
being fearful of the outcome of that
water, of the bunker or where the

589
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ball might go. Now you're ahead
of yourself, and that can cause anxiety

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because you're fearing this outcome, or
you're trying to force the outcome. You

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picture it, so you tell your
brain what you want and then you let

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it go and you get back to
the present moment. I had a student

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one time who he hit the greatest
shot he'd ever hit in his life,

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and he's like, oh my gosh. The next shot it was one of

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his worst. And I said to
him, I said, did you try

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to hit that shot again? He
said, yeah, I loved it.

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It was great, And these were
the words I said to him. I

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said, here's the key. Don't
try to do what you did just do

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00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,719
what you did? And I said, does that make any sense? And

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he was a lawyer and he was
great with words, and he said,

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I think what you're saying is repeat
the process, don't try to repeat the

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outcome. Is how many stories have
you heard about someone having the lowest round

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ever, their greatest or even the
best front nine ever, and now they

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try to repeat it, or the
next time they play that course, they're

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like, oh, yeah, I
made birdie on this, let me make

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that birdie again. So they're trying
to repeat the outcome instead of just doing

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what they did. Do the process. Stay in the present moment, make

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your shot, and then wherever it
goes, now go find it and hit

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00:46:15,079 --> 00:46:19,239
it again. So that's the key, and I think that's probably one of

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the most challenging things for people to
do because we want to visualize the shot.

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You want to have that outcome,
but then when you're about to hit

612
00:46:27,199 --> 00:46:30,280
it, you've got to release that
outcome, get in the present moment and

613
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:35,960
allow your skills to take over.
Wow, repeat the process, don't try

614
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:43,480
to repeat the outcome. That's pretty
amazing. Whoam tell me about? You

615
00:46:43,519 --> 00:46:49,920
know, one of the most incredible
things about your ebook seven principles of lowering

616
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:54,320
your handicap with flow state Golf is
the subtitle, which is the key for

617
00:46:54,480 --> 00:47:04,119
every golfer, the fastest and easiest
way to play consistent golf. Consistent everybody's

618
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,679
trying to find. And you know, I played with the guy the other

619
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:08,960
day. I said, hey,
you know, you're very consistent today.

620
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,599
He goes, I was terrible.
I said, you shot a fifty seven.

621
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,960
Fifty seven. That seems consistent to
me. You know, there's a

622
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:21,679
couple obviously, there's things you have
to work on, but you're you're you

623
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,320
know, you're not all over the
map, right like you're you're you're the

624
00:47:25,639 --> 00:47:29,840
lawyer who were playing with who had
the two different shots. We call it.

625
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,440
You know that's Ray Ray golf,
right, you know Ray Ray Golf.

626
00:47:32,079 --> 00:47:37,000
Let's Ray Ray golf. Rid the
first shot you hit like Ray Floyd

627
00:47:37,039 --> 00:47:39,039
and the next one you hit like
Ray Charles. Oh, yes, that's

628
00:47:39,159 --> 00:47:45,960
right. I love it. That
is great. Let's talk about consistent consistency.

629
00:47:46,679 --> 00:47:52,199
Is it a myth? Is it
real? Uh? Well, here's

630
00:47:52,199 --> 00:47:55,760
the thing. One you you're correct. Everyone wants to be consistent and they

631
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,559
want to be consistent. This is
the part they don't clarify all the time

632
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:06,400
with the best shot they've ever hit, so you're but absolutely good, but

633
00:48:06,519 --> 00:48:09,519
it wasn't. He's like what but
if he hit if he was consistent with

634
00:48:09,679 --> 00:48:14,079
two low rounds, and then he'd
be like, yes, I was consistent

635
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,079
with my best shot. So people
will say this to me, what are

636
00:48:16,119 --> 00:48:20,119
your goals for or a lesson today? I want to be more consistent and

637
00:48:20,159 --> 00:48:23,239
I said, well, with the
best shot you've ever hit, and they're

638
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:27,079
like, oh yeah, yeah,
with that shot, I want to hit

639
00:48:27,119 --> 00:48:30,440
it well more often and more consistently. So that's when it comes out.

640
00:48:30,639 --> 00:48:37,400
I believe it's possible. And the
key though is mindset and the unconscious mind

641
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:44,480
in particular, So it's it comes
down to allowing yourself to get out of

642
00:48:44,519 --> 00:48:46,320
your own way. People would ask
me for years, what is your philosophy

643
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:50,719
and teaching golf? I said,
basically, I help people get out of

644
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:55,320
their own way. So when it's
just the pure physical components and performance skills,

645
00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:01,639
getting people more relaxed, letting the
tension allow them to trust gravity centrifugal

646
00:49:01,679 --> 00:49:07,559
force to get out of the way
of what will help them play their best

647
00:49:07,079 --> 00:49:12,440
physically as well get them in a
really good setup and get them started to

648
00:49:13,079 --> 00:49:17,039
create a great backswing, to allow
the swing to happen, to allow the

649
00:49:17,079 --> 00:49:22,320
techniques, and then mentally, it's
getting out of your own way, because

650
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,119
I believe, if you can hit
that one great shot, why can't you

651
00:49:25,199 --> 00:49:31,079
repeat it? Why can't you what's
different? Something's different in your mindset,

652
00:49:31,159 --> 00:49:35,679
which maybe creates a little more attension, creates a little lack of focus.

653
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,760
But if we start to train that
part and we get rid of the self

654
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:45,679
consciousness by getting rid of those unconscious
limiting beliefs, and we get rid of

655
00:49:46,199 --> 00:49:51,559
major negative emotions, because even negative
emotions, it's like what they call a

656
00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:55,159
gastalt in psychology, where it builds, Like if you have a lot of

657
00:49:55,199 --> 00:50:01,079
anger from your life, it's not
surprising that you may overreact and have more

658
00:50:01,199 --> 00:50:07,159
anger in a golf shot than really
that it warrants. So if you literally

659
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:13,760
release the anger and then start with
a clean slate, now your anger will

660
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,679
just be warranted for life situations.
And really, how angry should you get

661
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,079
at a golf shot? You just
want to say to people all the time,

662
00:50:20,119 --> 00:50:25,400
you know you're not that good to
get that angry shots? Right?

663
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:30,519
Why? Yeah? Why? You
know if you didn't train it. You

664
00:50:30,559 --> 00:50:36,719
know, it take someone like Tiger
Woods and and he he trained unconsciously.

665
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:43,039
His dad took him to a hip
hypnosis. Hip learned hypnosis from self hypnosis

666
00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:47,480
from Navy seals a buddy of his, and they would literally hypnotize Tiger and

667
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:52,320
then have him go play golf and
then take him out of the hypnotic state.

668
00:50:52,639 --> 00:50:57,760
So he literally learned how to be
to get and flow state through hypnosis

669
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,119
in a in a way. And
I saw a great interview a Tiger and

670
00:51:00,119 --> 00:51:05,159
he said, I don't actually remember
many of the greatest shots I've ever hit.

671
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,320
I don't remember hitting it because what
he would do, he'd be in

672
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,159
his think box and he'd choose his
club. He said, I remember picking

673
00:51:10,159 --> 00:51:15,360
the club out of the bag,
and then the next thing I literally can

674
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,280
remember consciously is watching the ball fly
to the hole. So what would happen

675
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,920
His unconscious mind would take over.
And if we could get ourselves in that

676
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:27,239
flow state more often, welcome it. Now, I say, get ourselves

677
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,880
fall into flow state, flow into
it more often than we can do it.

678
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:38,320
And it does take that unconscious mind, those beliefs. Also knowing you

679
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:43,320
know the mental game strategies that we
learned the breath, the target, and

680
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,039
the think box playbox, and then
your post shot reaction is also a key.

681
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:50,480
How you react to the shot will
influence the next shot as well,

682
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,920
and you want to be neutral or
positive. So everybody remember that how you

683
00:51:53,960 --> 00:52:00,760
react. Let me give everybody a
formula FRED that I think could help on

684
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:06,599
the golf course and in life.
E plus R equals O. Everybody write

685
00:52:06,599 --> 00:52:09,880
that down. E plus our equals
OZ because oftentimes we have an event and

686
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,440
say it's not a great event.
It all goes, you know, slices

687
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,360
into the woods, or a world
pandemic comes along. There's an event and

688
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:21,119
we're like, oh, and then
we think that's the outcome, it's going

689
00:52:21,199 --> 00:52:25,440
to be negative. We have to
remember there's a plus r before the outcome,

690
00:52:25,639 --> 00:52:31,440
and it's how you respond. And
if your response is in a more

691
00:52:31,639 --> 00:52:37,719
positive leading way, things like I've
got this, I can do this well,

692
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,400
how can I best move forward?
How can I still achieve the goals

693
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:45,480
that I want in this situation?
What do I need to do? You

694
00:52:45,519 --> 00:52:51,679
know, here's an event that affects
so many people in golf. E slow

695
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:58,440
play outcome oftentime is ruins my tempo, my game fell apart. So we're

696
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:04,239
blaming something outside of ourselves which we
have no control over on our game.

697
00:53:04,679 --> 00:53:08,920
Well, guess what happens the next
time you play slow play outcome lose my

698
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:14,920
tempo? There goes my game.
Right, So the r is the key,

699
00:53:15,119 --> 00:53:19,880
and you want to take that responsibility
and empower yourself to say, okay,

700
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,800
slow play, What can I do
to maintain my tempo? Can I

701
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:27,480
go to gratitude? Can I have
more conversations with my playing partners? Can

702
00:53:27,519 --> 00:53:30,480
I just ignore them? And then
when it's my turn taken extra practice,

703
00:53:30,519 --> 00:53:35,480
wing, take more breaths? How
can I keep my rhythm, timing and

704
00:53:35,519 --> 00:53:40,119
tempo going even though this event is
happening that used to impact me? So

705
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:45,920
that's called being in cause that's you
causing the next moment of your life by

706
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:51,559
taking the responsibility on you. Because
too many people in golf blame they're poor

707
00:53:51,679 --> 00:53:53,559
golf on things outside of them.
Well, the ranger came along, he's

708
00:53:53,599 --> 00:53:58,920
following me again. What's the meaning
you put to the ranger? Oh,

709
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,119
he probably thinks we're playing slow,
right, If that's the meaning you put,

710
00:54:01,199 --> 00:54:04,599
maybe he just likes your golf swing
and he wants to see you play

711
00:54:04,679 --> 00:54:07,000
and he happened to be head and
by you he stopped. You know,

712
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,920
so what are the meanings you put
to things? Is one, and take

713
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:16,639
the responsibility event plus how you respond
truly is how you get the outcome,

714
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:22,000
So that is really important. I
don't remember your initial question. I know

715
00:54:22,039 --> 00:54:24,840
I went on ATEN just so I
wanted to make sure I served everybody as

716
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:30,840
best I can today and then deliver
as much as I can tell people they

717
00:54:31,119 --> 00:54:37,559
I gotta say the e book is
quick, it's direct, it's the sinct,

718
00:54:37,119 --> 00:54:40,880
it's worth reading, it's not a
tough read at all, and tell

719
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:45,000
people how they can get a hold
of it. Oh, absolutely, thank

720
00:54:45,039 --> 00:54:49,719
you for asking. I want to
give it to all of your listeners for

721
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,159
for full account, to just give
it to everybody, because I love sharing

722
00:54:52,159 --> 00:54:57,559
this. I've and I've been that
struggling athlete who never felt like she was

723
00:54:57,599 --> 00:55:00,880
reaching her full potential. And it
was fresh, and I'd say, am

724
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,960
I afraid of success? Am I
afraid of failure? What's going on?

725
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:08,320
And I would be frustrated that I
wasn't getting there and I felt like and

726
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:14,280
I felt short of my potential.
So I've dug so deep. I'm obsessed

727
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,639
with our brains and how they work
and how they influence our daily performance and

728
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:21,440
our lives for sure. So I
want to give this to everybody, and

729
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,119
here's the text number. You just
have to text flow to this number seven

730
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:36,039
two seven three three nine zero one
zero six seven two seven three three nine

731
00:55:36,199 --> 00:55:42,199
zero one zero six text the word
flow flow and you will get a link

732
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,239
to then download the free copy of
the book. And I hope you really

733
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,920
enjoy it. I hope it serves
you well. There's some stories in there.

734
00:55:49,199 --> 00:55:52,719
I love to teach in stories.
I love to learn in stories myself,

735
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:57,079
So there's some stories from which everyone
can learn. And wishing all of

736
00:55:57,079 --> 00:56:01,559
you just amazing golf, consistently playing
your best. It's possible, believe it.

737
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:07,679
You can do it. Absolutely.
That number and the word will be

738
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,320
in the show notes. So if
you didn't write it down, I have

739
00:56:09,559 --> 00:56:14,400
and I'll give it to you.
Debbie, this has really been an inspiration.

740
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,480
I truly appreciate sharing this time with
you. Thank you, Yay.

741
00:56:17,599 --> 00:56:22,760
I'm so glad to hear it.
I just I love to share I've created

742
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,800
a masterclassic. If you can give
everybody my website to look forward keys to

743
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:30,280
being a champion on my website.
I do that course about four times a

744
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:35,559
year, so watch for the next
upcoming course for you. What is the

745
00:56:35,559 --> 00:56:38,079
website? Tell us, Oh,
it's Debbie D E B B I E.

746
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:44,239
Hyphen O'Connell O C O N N
E L L dot com. So

747
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:50,000
Debbie hyphen O'Connell dot com. And
then look under Golf Positive Courses, Keys

748
00:56:50,039 --> 00:56:52,880
to being a Champion and uh and
I'd love to serve you and help you

749
00:56:53,199 --> 00:57:00,400
play your best golf. I hope
you enjoyed that conversation. We've got some

750
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:05,440
pretty interesting guests coming up over this
summer. Next week, John LaGG Ericson

751
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,840
he's been on the show before,
a former PGA Tour winner and purveyor of

752
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:15,559
Advanced Ballstriking dot com, will be
joining us for a long discussion on many

753
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:19,960
topics, including why he doesn't think
we need to grow the game, just

754
00:57:20,079 --> 00:57:24,679
sustain it. We'll get to hear
all about a new book called Learning the

755
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:31,119
Golf Swing through Physics with June Shen
Wang, and a conversation I'll be recording

756
00:57:31,159 --> 00:57:37,960
next week with both doctor Bob Jones, the fourth grandson of Bobby Jones,

757
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:43,800
and another doctor I introduced him too
recently, doctor Joseph Parent, author of

758
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:49,320
Zen Golf, not exactly sure which
direction that interview will go, but if

759
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,639
you have any specific questions or topics
you want to make sure that we cover,

760
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:57,519
please let me know before July twenty
first, when we're recording that conversation.

761
00:57:58,519 --> 00:58:01,559
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Fred button. One more quick story.

789
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,760
This weekend, I went out to
play and it was the first time with

790
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:22,519
a new golf bag. I did
a lot of research before deciding on which

791
01:00:22,519 --> 01:00:27,079
one to get. Is for years, I've had a bag that was actually

792
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:31,239
it was wearing out. It needed
to be replaced. And since I walk

793
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:36,639
with a pushcart and never carry my
bag because of the pressure and strain it

794
01:00:36,679 --> 01:00:39,079
puts on my back, I got
a bag that works well on either a

795
01:00:39,159 --> 01:00:45,760
driving cart or the pushcart. Now
I'm still trying to decide where to position

796
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:51,199
each club because this bag has fourteen
separate slots because I did it that way

797
01:00:51,199 --> 01:00:54,239
because I really do not like the
sound of clubs banging against one another.

798
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:59,480
One. I'm when I'm walking along
the road the course, and wouldn't you

799
01:00:59,519 --> 01:01:02,599
know it, around the fifteenth hole, I realized that my seven iron was

800
01:01:02,679 --> 01:01:08,159
missing. Now that does not happen
to me. I don't remember ever going

801
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:13,280
ah, I can't find my club. No, it does not happen.

802
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,480
And I asked the three groups behind
me if they found it, and the

803
01:01:16,559 --> 01:01:21,239
Marshal nope, no luck. So
after the round, I grabbed a cart

804
01:01:21,239 --> 01:01:23,639
from the pro shop started driving around
the course, starting at eighteen and working

805
01:01:23,679 --> 01:01:28,519
backwards. Luckily, a nice guy
picked it up and was waiting for me

806
01:01:28,599 --> 01:01:31,800
to arrive. Moral of the story. If you carry an extra club to

807
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:37,559
the green or to your next shot, make sure if you put it on

808
01:01:37,599 --> 01:01:44,320
the ground that you do so between
you and your bag, not behind you.

809
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:49,159
If you have any questions, comments, or suggestions for upcoming episodes,

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