WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:32.359 Thank you for listening to Depiction's Media Radio. Welcome to Policy Rights to show 2 00:00:32.560 --> 00:01:03.640 about government policy and human rights. Welcome back to Policy and Rights here in 3 00:01:03.680 --> 00:01:08.879 Depictions Media Radio. And this next segment we're going to hear is about Indigenous 4 00:01:08.959 --> 00:01:19.040 rates um and it is was recorded from a United Nations press conference. I 5 00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:25.760 want to point out something very interesting about about this particular press conference because a 6 00:01:25.799 --> 00:01:34.760 lot of the press conferences that happen there that they get a bunch of the 7 00:01:34.879 --> 00:01:41.519 national press and a lot of the a lot of those reporters show up to 8 00:01:41.840 --> 00:01:47.879 actually be part of the press conference to ask questions and things. And in 9 00:01:47.959 --> 00:01:55.760 this particular case, while we were able to grab it from off of the 10 00:01:55.879 --> 00:02:15.080 Indigenous or First Nations a channel, that there were no other big national international 11 00:02:15.159 --> 00:02:20.759 press people there that they did not show up or they did simply didn't ask 12 00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:29.199 any questions, which is kind of interesting. It means that that what happens 13 00:02:29.240 --> 00:02:36.759 with the Indigenous people in the US and Canada is not news. How these 14 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:44.000 people are treated by the US and Canadian governments. In this particular case, 15 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:50.280 we're gonna it's going to be more focused on the Canadian government because these nations 16 00:02:50.360 --> 00:03:01.960 were from Canada that it these issues aren't important to who enough to be broadcast 17 00:03:02.120 --> 00:03:10.919 as news, or they should be glossed over as not being newsworthy, and 18 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:19.439 they are newsworthy. What happens to any particular group's rights is newsworthy and should 19 00:03:19.479 --> 00:03:25.840 be broadcasted. Thus, why we are putting this information out there. They're 20 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:31.520 going to talk about colonialism, and we have said time and time again on 21 00:03:31.639 --> 00:03:38.360 this particular show that colonialism is the root cause to a lot of hate crimes, 22 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:45.199 that that attitude about, well, this is our land and you don't 23 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:53.840 belong here because our forefathers settled here and they and they grew it to what 24 00:03:53.000 --> 00:04:00.439 we see now. Well, the thing of it is, in the cases 25 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:11.560 of indigenous rights, there are forefathers were the where the colonialized forefathers they stole 26 00:04:11.599 --> 00:04:18.040 the land away from the forefathers who are already here or in this particular case, 27 00:04:18.120 --> 00:04:30.079 because this is one of the colonial attitudes, is that there should be 28 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:40.160 a patriarchal system, meaning that men are totally in control, where the indigenous 29 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:47.439 way is more of that it should be the women who are more in control 30 00:04:48.160 --> 00:05:00.279 of the of of these civilized natures, the governments and how the culture it 31 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:14.360 is spread and nurtured. Culture should be nurtured. So the matriarchal system that 32 00:05:14.639 --> 00:05:21.519 was in place by the original Nations or the indigenous nations that were here in 33 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:30.639 North America before colonialism, has been replaced by a patriarchal system. And that 34 00:05:30.120 --> 00:05:36.240 again leading us back to some of the root causes of the hate crimes and 35 00:05:36.319 --> 00:05:45.680 the genocide that have been placed against the First Nations or Indigenous Nations people in 36 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:51.040 the US, the United States and Canada. So why don't we listen to 37 00:05:51.519 --> 00:06:28.800 what was said during your press conference and we'll be back mm hmm. Yeah, 38 00:06:28.839 --> 00:06:40.920 this one's for me. When I sit down on three, we just 39 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:46.480 sit yeah, just grab a seat except for the first one. Yeah, 40 00:06:46.519 --> 00:07:19.000 any of the other seats, Yeah, I don't want yeah there um yeah 41 00:07:19.079 --> 00:07:30.360 yeah, where where you can put it here, nobody's gonna walk this way, 42 00:07:31.720 --> 00:07:55.079 okay, yeah, m hmm watching Miss Wing, Rosiane Archibald, Dititionagaan. 43 00:07:56.160 --> 00:07:59.720 Hi, everyone, welcome to our press conference. First someone to just 44 00:08:00.399 --> 00:08:05.560 say Meguach, thank you to the Permanent Mission of Canada who are sponsoring our 45 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:11.920 press conference today in Cree. I just said greetings and my name and where 46 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:16.480 I'm from. I am the National Chief of the Assembly of First Nations and 47 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:22.040 of course the first woman to be elected to this position. I first of 48 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:28.360 all, I wanted to say meguaton and askimon for the inspiring leaders who are 49 00:08:28.480 --> 00:08:35.039 joining me in the front row today before I introduced them. I want to 50 00:08:35.080 --> 00:08:37.679 always acknowledge the creator the world around us, in our place within it, 51 00:08:39.279 --> 00:08:46.279 and to say meguatch to the Lenape peoples for hosting us on their beautiful territory. 52 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:52.600 Welcome and thank you for joining us at this twenty second session of the 53 00:08:52.720 --> 00:09:00.600 United Nation's Permanent Form Forum on Indigenous Issues. We welcome you to today's briefing 54 00:09:01.759 --> 00:09:07.480 and the purpose of our holding this press conference is for First Nations to talk 55 00:09:07.519 --> 00:09:13.759 about their priorities and what has driven us from our home fires all the way 56 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:18.639 here to New York City to this global forum this week. To my left 57 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:26.600 our Chief Joe Alphonse, who is the Chakotan National Chief. Beside him is 58 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:35.559 Vice Chief Alley Bear from the Federation of Indigenous Sovereign Nations, and to the 59 00:09:35.720 --> 00:09:39.919 left of her is former Cook P. G. D Wilson and also a 60 00:09:41.000 --> 00:09:46.919 part of our Canadian delegation, and of course Grand Grand Council Chief Ridge Nicknabe 61 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:52.720 from the Innishonaubek Nation. In the front world, we have Chief Norman, 62 00:09:52.120 --> 00:10:00.519 Chief Norma Catarat not Norman from Buffalo RIVERDNY Nation. We also have of Hailey 63 00:10:00.679 --> 00:10:05.799 Rose, one of the youth. And over there I see Taylor to Kosha 64 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:11.639 Ben and Ashley Daniels who are on the AFN Youth Council. So we have 65 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:20.240 what we call an international panel to honor this International Indigenous Forum. Each First 66 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:24.480 Nation is unique and if you're looking for uniformity, you won't find it. 67 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:31.320 However, you will find that we are united in our support of one another 68 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:37.759 and the indivisible common vision that we share, which is happy, healthy children 69 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:43.879 surrounded by the love and care of their families, living in safe and vibrant 70 00:10:43.919 --> 00:10:50.799 communities, and that that vision starts with ensuring that Indigenous women and girls are 71 00:10:52.519 --> 00:10:58.879 and two spirited, are loved, cherished, safe, protected and treated with 72 00:10:58.080 --> 00:11:05.480 dignity and resp backed. Always as First Nations, at this United Nations Permanent 73 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:13.159 Form, we're taking the microphone to amplify our priorities of decolonizing, decarbonizing, 74 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:20.600 and calling out the systems that undermine and harm Mother Earth and our mother tongue 75 00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:26.600 and matriarchy. Internationally, we must take a family's first approach to the crisis 76 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:31.320 of missing and murdered Indigenous women and girls and to us plus. And I've 77 00:11:31.320 --> 00:11:37.159 asked Judy Wilson to be that voice for her family and for all families. 78 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:43.519 We did hear deb Hallan at the beginning of this form say if we don't 79 00:11:43.600 --> 00:11:50.159 empower our women, our climate goals won't succeed. And I would add that 80 00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:56.080 we must also empower our youth who are sitting with us today. Youth are 81 00:11:56.120 --> 00:12:00.879 often called the leaders of tomorrow, but everyone knows that I call them the 82 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:07.120 leaders today. So at last year's forum, I requested these special Rapperture on 83 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:13.519 the Rights of Indigenous Peoples to come to Canada to investigate violations of Indigenous rights 84 00:12:13.799 --> 00:12:18.639 in our internal island. And I wanted to thank him for traveling to us 85 00:12:18.799 --> 00:12:22.759 last month, and I was happy to be sitting in the planary with him 86 00:12:22.840 --> 00:12:28.799 this morning. I look forward to his findings and recommendations this Friday, and 87 00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:37.600 ultimately his report to the United Nations Human Rights Council in September. And that's 88 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:43.559 why these forums are so important. It's a way for all Indigenous people across 89 00:12:43.799 --> 00:12:50.279 the world to connect and to work together on common goals. So now I'd 90 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:54.759 like to invite my fellow panelists to highlight the issues that bring them to this 91 00:12:54.960 --> 00:13:01.279 year's United Nations Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues. Much for listening, then Askskin. 92 00:13:01.720 --> 00:13:11.519 So we'll start with Chief Joe Alphonse, John at Leo, a Lil 93 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:18.720 Johnny deal, anilt of a high deal, the clean nights on during cleaning, 94 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:24.960 and yet all thick. I want to acknowledging the lands that we are 95 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:31.679 on. I'm not true what the nation le not pay people? You know, 96 00:13:31.799 --> 00:13:37.519 we hope they'll leave this area and not have any negative effect on their 97 00:13:37.879 --> 00:13:45.000 territories. It's customary that we always get permission from those nations before we travel 98 00:13:45.519 --> 00:13:48.879 their territories and stuff. So to do business on their land is we have 99 00:13:50.039 --> 00:13:56.159 to acknowledge at the very least. So I'm here, I'm I'm travel cherry 100 00:13:56.240 --> 00:14:03.799 for the Taty National Government. We are are twenty fourteen one aborigin right and 101 00:14:03.919 --> 00:14:11.039 title case in Canada, the only firstation to win Aboriginal title. We have 102 00:14:11.639 --> 00:14:20.360 eighteen hundred square kilometers that's all on bite sale quoteen people, you know, 103 00:14:20.799 --> 00:14:26.840 reserve lands and a lot territories. We always say is ours, but there's 104 00:14:26.919 --> 00:14:31.759 nothing that's actually one hundred percent can be seen. Don't have jurisdiction on those 105 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:37.399 lands. We do and stuff and it's to tell a lot story, to 106 00:14:37.559 --> 00:14:43.240 tell a lot journey, to share that with other Indigenous people, regardless of 107 00:14:43.320 --> 00:14:50.799 what country they come from, to inspire to bring hope. It's a lonely 108 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:58.159 place when you stand, when you stand up for your rights. We fought 109 00:14:58.240 --> 00:15:03.200 to seek gol Mine, which to have been the largest copper and gold mine 110 00:15:03.039 --> 00:15:07.399 in North America. As part of that journey, it was a big part 111 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:11.919 of our fight against to win title. How many times we stood there, 112 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:18.879 we were told there's no way you guys can beat them. You got pro 113 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:26.159 government Canada government, Stephen Harper government, you got pro provincial government, Gordon 114 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:33.240 Campbell government. You guys have no chance. It's always a chance. It's 115 00:15:33.440 --> 00:15:39.480 clotheen people where Denay people where are roleless to travel before the other Denays and 116 00:15:39.559 --> 00:15:46.000 obtained land. We were a warlike people. We love a fight. Doesn't 117 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:52.240 matter if we wouldn't or lose the slums we're fighting. We're happy even if 118 00:15:52.279 --> 00:15:58.279 we have no chance. We have a fight, and if we lose that 119 00:15:58.440 --> 00:16:04.399 fight, we will come back. We will restrgedize, study our enemy, 120 00:16:04.440 --> 00:16:08.759 and we will come back twice as hard. That's the way it's been with 121 00:16:08.840 --> 00:16:15.960 that. Twice we beat them when everybody else says there was no hope. 122 00:16:17.720 --> 00:16:22.840 So we signed a business deal. We don't believe in that. Whatever you 123 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:27.759 believe, you stand behind it one hundred percent. And to stand there often 124 00:16:27.879 --> 00:16:34.240 we had to stand there alone, feeling alone. Nobody would Everybody would tell 125 00:16:34.320 --> 00:16:40.600 us how foolish we are to win Abrige a title. On the eve of 126 00:16:40.679 --> 00:16:45.519 our court case, every Aboriginal organization and every abrigein lawyer in Carada told us 127 00:16:45.559 --> 00:16:52.519 you have no chance of winning. Withdraw your case. Withdraw your case. 128 00:16:55.080 --> 00:17:00.320 We reminded them. Eighteen sixty four conclusion of the Chu War, six of 129 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:07.880 our word chiefs, we're executed. But in today's day in h if we 130 00:17:08.079 --> 00:17:15.440 lose that case, we just lose it. We don't get executed. So 131 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:21.079 where you guys afraid of we lose, We'll go back, We'll restrategize, 132 00:17:21.119 --> 00:17:26.920 will come back. This is what it means to be Chilton in our world. 133 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:33.200 We're only here for a short time. When you guys cross over, 134 00:17:33.799 --> 00:17:38.480 there's going to be six chiefs waiting on the other side, you explain to 135 00:17:38.559 --> 00:17:45.359 them while you withdrew when they paid the ultimate price to protect our culture in 136 00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:52.839 our way. So we said we will move forward. And we didn't have 137 00:17:52.920 --> 00:17:56.240 a lot of friends when we said we were going to move forward, but 138 00:17:56.400 --> 00:18:00.720 suddenly everybody was our best friend. Will not quart to say and came down. 139 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:04.960 We said, it's not whether we win or lose. We have done 140 00:18:06.039 --> 00:18:11.240 everything we can in our power. The only thing left is for that courtroom 141 00:18:11.359 --> 00:18:18.880 up there to finally look at us and I actually acknowledge us as human beings. 142 00:18:19.640 --> 00:18:25.279 That's what this case is about. And it's the stand up, stand 143 00:18:25.359 --> 00:18:29.240 up for yourself, stand up for your family. We want a better quality 144 00:18:29.400 --> 00:18:33.880 life. You look at statistics all across Canada. It's all and for our 145 00:18:33.960 --> 00:18:41.319 win. And the Chill Colden War were declared war on white people in eineteen 146 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:47.319 sixty four. And what led to that was the final straws when they took 147 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:52.480 our head war chief starter and they use her for entertainment, they abused her. 148 00:18:53.160 --> 00:19:00.599 The Chill Cools declared war on them, and I thank our our mothers 149 00:19:02.680 --> 00:19:07.440 in winning that aboriginal title. You can change all of the Chill Cooden chiefs 150 00:19:07.599 --> 00:19:12.319 every month if you want, but the position of the chill Cooden will always 151 00:19:12.440 --> 00:19:18.559 stay the same because our mothers and their teachings to all of our children. 152 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:25.559 The first thing we learn is chill Cooden is that under a flag of truth 153 00:19:26.240 --> 00:19:32.440 we went in the talk piece and they jumped our word chiefs and took them 154 00:19:32.799 --> 00:19:37.319 and tried them as murders and executed them. And because of those teachings, 155 00:19:37.920 --> 00:19:42.680 teachings by our women, our mothers, that's the reason why we won our 156 00:19:42.759 --> 00:19:52.559 case. So I'll leave it there. We got some other numbers on the 157 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:56.319 board here and I don't want to take them too much more of our time. 158 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:06.319 Thank you very much. Chief Joe Um and Vice Chief Alibert. Huh 159 00:20:06.720 --> 00:20:14.519 I pay two wash day A two a iohanna a chiapaaaahi good day. My 160 00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:18.279 name is Tataka Skawe. My English name is Alibert. I'm the third Vice 161 00:20:18.359 --> 00:20:22.519 Chief of the Federation of Sovereign Indigenous Nations and i am honored. I'm proud 162 00:20:22.599 --> 00:20:26.759 to represent the seventy four nations in the Saskatchewan region in Canada. Um I'm 163 00:20:26.799 --> 00:20:30.119 from Wapahaskayat, which is White Cap da Quota First Nation, and I'm a 164 00:20:30.160 --> 00:20:33.680 proud Dakota Wean and I'm honored to be here today with each and every single 165 00:20:33.759 --> 00:20:37.359 one of you. As a young leader, um, I know I have 166 00:20:37.440 --> 00:20:40.839 a lot of ways to go in a lot to learn still, so it's 167 00:20:40.880 --> 00:20:42.880 a huge honor to be able to sit here and to speak to these issues, 168 00:20:44.279 --> 00:20:48.039 but also from a younger perspective. You know, first and foremost, 169 00:20:48.200 --> 00:20:51.400 I'm a mother and I have two daughters that have to grow up in this 170 00:20:51.519 --> 00:20:56.160 society. And this society right now is targeting our women and our girls and 171 00:20:56.279 --> 00:21:00.000 our two spirited plus and we need to be doing more to protect them. 172 00:21:00.440 --> 00:21:06.200 We need to be making sure that these issues are at the forefront because they 173 00:21:06.279 --> 00:21:10.880 continue to get overlooked and we continue to see more women go missing and murdered. 174 00:21:11.440 --> 00:21:15.680 Right now, currently in Canada, we do have the MMW inquiry from 175 00:21:15.759 --> 00:21:18.240 twenty nineteen and the two hundred and thirty one calls to justice that need to 176 00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:23.799 be implemented because we continue to see an increase of our Indigenous women's being murdered, 177 00:21:23.960 --> 00:21:29.519 especially the latest case Linda Beardy and Winnipeg who was just recently found in 178 00:21:29.559 --> 00:21:33.200 a landfill. We are not trash, we are not garbage. We deserve 179 00:21:33.279 --> 00:21:40.200 to be valued. Traditionally, our women held high respect and our communities and 180 00:21:40.440 --> 00:21:42.960 is that colonial violence that came here, that colonial mindset that came here, 181 00:21:44.200 --> 00:21:48.000 and you put us to the lowest of the hierarchy. And now we're we're 182 00:21:48.119 --> 00:21:52.960 regaining that power. We're regaining that leadership as we see National Chief here as 183 00:21:52.960 --> 00:21:56.200 the first women national Chief, and we see a lot more women chief standing 184 00:21:56.319 --> 00:22:02.079 up and stepping up. Chief normal Cadidact here, a strong DNA leader of 185 00:22:02.160 --> 00:22:06.559 her nation, and I'm very honored to be here with her today, our 186 00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:11.000 youth Chief Hailey Rose. We need to continue to protect each other, and 187 00:22:11.119 --> 00:22:15.480 we need to make sure that we are calling on all levels of government to 188 00:22:15.640 --> 00:22:21.079 take this issue seriously because we need to put it into it and this is 189 00:22:21.160 --> 00:22:26.640 not just an Indigenous issue. This is everyone's issue. Everybody in society should 190 00:22:26.680 --> 00:22:32.599 be protecting one another and our future generations and our children. And I say 191 00:22:32.640 --> 00:22:34.119 that, and I asked that, and I call upon all levels of government 192 00:22:34.160 --> 00:22:37.799 as a mother, as a lawyer, and as the third vice chief of 193 00:22:37.839 --> 00:22:51.359 the fasi in Putama matakowas maybe that's Chief Beard like a quietep. I also 194 00:22:51.440 --> 00:22:57.960 want to acknowledge the Lenape people of the land here, and also all of 195 00:22:59.039 --> 00:23:03.839 our women and youth here and the ones that are will be listening in around 196 00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:08.400 the world because this is the place we gather at the United Nations to be 197 00:23:08.440 --> 00:23:12.119 able to share our voices and share our space. So I'm very honored to 198 00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:17.400 share the space here and thank you National Chief for creating the space. I 199 00:23:17.519 --> 00:23:21.680 think our leadership, when they create the space, we can amplify those issues, 200 00:23:21.759 --> 00:23:26.240 as you heard from Archialcot and Nation and from Ali here, the Vice 201 00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:32.599 Chief of all the issues that we're going through. So, despite its commitments, 202 00:23:32.680 --> 00:23:37.039 Canada continues to breach and violate the principles and standards affirmed in the UN 203 00:23:37.119 --> 00:23:42.240 Declaration. Our country is just having legislation to implement it through an action plan. 204 00:23:42.799 --> 00:23:48.200 But Canada continues to deny the existence of indigenous title and treaty rights, 205 00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:52.599 inherent title and treaty rights which our nations have never seed it, surrendered or 206 00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:56.759 sold, despite having been forcibly displaced from our homelands and regulated to reserves that 207 00:23:57.480 --> 00:24:03.079 total to zero point zero two of the Canadian land mass. And so when 208 00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:07.079 Chief Joe's talking about how they took our land, they forced us on reserves 209 00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:12.920 and they didn't recognize or still refusing to recognize our territorial lands and the show 210 00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:19.680 quoting people have been having the long time in courts across the country in securing 211 00:24:19.759 --> 00:24:25.400 their title for their land. So the assumption that the crown title to the 212 00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:30.359 ninety nine point eight percent of our territory land is very the very dispossession that 213 00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:37.079 the United Nations condemns. They we do not even hold title to our reserves. 214 00:24:37.359 --> 00:24:41.440 People don't realize that we're still wards of the government and we don't hold 215 00:24:41.519 --> 00:24:44.960 title to our reserves. That's the other thing. I think we raised that 216 00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:48.359 in the A word report to the federal government. And our people are still 217 00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:53.200 wards, and we still have our programs and services. So all of our 218 00:24:53.279 --> 00:24:56.960 wealth has taken from our land and it comes back to us in forms of 219 00:24:57.039 --> 00:25:02.359 programs and services that a poverish us. You hear many chiefs talk about that, 220 00:25:02.440 --> 00:25:07.880 where I'm just managing poverty on our lands. So when the time and 221 00:25:07.960 --> 00:25:11.079 rights of the Indigenous people are perceived to be in conflict with the assumed national 222 00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:17.359 interests or the agenda or priorities of Crown government that offer online with corporate interests, 223 00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:22.039 the time and rights of Indigenous peoples are repeatedly infringed and unviolated. So 224 00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:26.519 we can see that continually over and over. It probably heard a lot of 225 00:25:26.559 --> 00:25:32.640 that today when we're in the Assembly within Indigenous People's Rapporteur of Indigenous People, 226 00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:37.039 some of those core issues when we talk about we're still under that colonial blanket. 227 00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:44.000 It's a colonial framework that we're under, and it's really the Section two 228 00:25:44.079 --> 00:25:48.000 of the Rights of Indigenous Peoples and the Common Law Interpretation Act on thirty five 229 00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:53.880 one relies heavily on the doctrine of discovery, and that's when we're saying repudiate 230 00:25:53.960 --> 00:25:59.319 the doctor in the discovery and the Pope repudiated it. But there's a lot 231 00:25:59.400 --> 00:26:03.880 of the work dismantling it and revoking it in law because the courts and the 232 00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:11.559 legislation and the governments still rely on that framework. So which negatively impacts us 233 00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:15.720 on our day to day life as Indigenous people and nations, includes the imposition 234 00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:21.640 of crown sovereignty over Indigenous lands, including the self government rights, and it's 235 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:26.680 disregarding indigenous laws and legal traditions, many of ours are still intact. Because 236 00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:32.000 our lands are still intact, we still hold those indigenous laws and legal orders 237 00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:38.000 and jurisdiction and establishing that the Crown has that ultimate title to the land. 238 00:26:38.039 --> 00:26:41.759 That's what we're pushing back on. That's what we're saying, No, they 239 00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:45.480 don't. They have something called assumed title and jurisdiction. They never We never 240 00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:48.640 consented to it. They never conquered us, they never see us. We 241 00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:53.400 didn't surrender to them. So the burden, however, the burden of proof 242 00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:57.960 is imposed on our indigenous peoples and nations to establish their rights and courts. 243 00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:04.240 And I can't phantom how long Chief Joe spinettis and the cost of it. 244 00:27:04.680 --> 00:27:07.960 You know, it's the burden was placed on their nation. That's not right. 245 00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:11.359 And they I know, they're very strong and they will continue that. 246 00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:17.119 We've supported them in the courts and will continue to support this work. And 247 00:27:17.319 --> 00:27:23.319 the other racist notion is the frozen in time, the vander Pete legal tests 248 00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:27.440 for establishing our average and rights. We're constantly fighting that with fisheries. We're 249 00:27:27.480 --> 00:27:33.319 constantly fighting at over our rights and our resources and the land. So that's 250 00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:37.079 the other thing. And the ability for the Crown to infringe average rights based 251 00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:45.240 on the Sparrow legal tests, So the justifications for infringing Canada got a national 252 00:27:45.319 --> 00:27:51.720 pipeline and then they're infringing coming through our territory without our consent. So there's 253 00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:56.680 like all kinds of examples of these different infringements and the erosion of the government's 254 00:27:56.759 --> 00:28:03.400 duty to consult and accommodate to nothing more than procedurally right that is reviewable based 255 00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:07.119 on administration and law principles. So that's the other part is the consultation. 256 00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:11.640 Now it should be free prior informed consent, which was something we're going to 257 00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:15.640 have to move the bar on. I wanted to touch on something Ali touched 258 00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:21.039 on with the Indigenous women and communities in Canada are facing a crisis. You 259 00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:26.839 know. The I was just that the ENaC side event on missing murdered women 260 00:28:26.920 --> 00:28:32.720 and climate change, so you know, some of the provinces were noting the 261 00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:37.319 the statistics and they're similar all across Canada, that our women are missing and 262 00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:41.440 murdered, and our two spirit and diverse gender, and our men and boys 263 00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:45.160 too. They're almost like almost getting to be almost the same amounts now, 264 00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:51.680 which is you know, against our indigenous people. So they're especially when their 265 00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:56.039 land protectors are water protectors, you know, they're they're even more vulnerable and 266 00:28:56.119 --> 00:29:02.759 more attacked, especially when they're environmental states like in downtown east Side or Winnipeg, 267 00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:07.799 or Manitoba or Ottawa. We've seen that firsthand when we're in Ottawa just 268 00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:12.640 a few weeks ago for our Special Chiefs Assembly. How are marginalized our women 269 00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:18.240 are and you know the impacts that our women have that they're going through. 270 00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:26.279 But we we did have recommendations many many years ago for the un Permanent Forum. 271 00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:30.519 You know, we wanted to include the Indigenous lands, territory and resources, 272 00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:33.240 you know, as a standing agenda, and in the Forum, we 273 00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:37.400 wanted to be able to have a better Indigenous coordinating body, which I just 274 00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:42.559 came from the Chill quote and supported that they were just having their hosted meeting 275 00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:45.720 across the street. There. There's still a lot of changes that we have 276 00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:49.759 to do, but we have to be involved in these mechanisms and uh, 277 00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:55.440 you know a large part I spend on climate, an environment and MISI murdered 278 00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:59.759 women. But you know they're all connected. All of it's connected. That's 279 00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:03.920 why you know, we have to have the equal opportunities to have these spaces 280 00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:07.599 to be able to speak on these different issues. But because it is about 281 00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:11.319 our self determination, it is about the nations deciding, you know, uh 282 00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:17.799 what avenues they're going to go. It isn't Canada's determination. We're not under 283 00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:22.480 Canada or our own nations. The self determination has to be driven by our 284 00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:29.359 nations. Cooks Chaman, thank you, thank you so much, Judy. 285 00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:36.519 And our final speaker is Grand Council Chief Imation that going to be Quine English 286 00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:42.119 and the cosmas wagging jam a Nititionive beag Natian gig the Oldama mean uh mean 287 00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:47.440 question National chief for invitation today is much appreciated and good afternoon to everybody. 288 00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:52.519 My name is Reginald Nigonambi from Mississauga First Nation and I'm part of the Sturgeon 289 00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:56.960 Clan and I'm elected Grand Council Chief of the Inititionanve beag Natian. Yesterday the 290 00:30:56.039 --> 00:31:00.519 Initiative beag Natian spoke at the thematic discussion about the issue of Line five in 291 00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:06.160 the Macana Strait or the Macinac Straits. Sorry a Nishnabe peoples are peoples of 292 00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:11.839 the Great Lakes Basin. The international border creates an artificial divide between our American 293 00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:15.880 and Canadian families. At the United Nations will continue to seek clarity on the 294 00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:21.720 application of principles of free prior and inform consent when it comes to state actors 295 00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:27.119 and Indigenous peoples that do not live within their domestic jurisdiction. For example, 296 00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:36.000 Line five crosses through Wisconsin, Michigan and then terminates in Ontario. Should Canada, 297 00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:41.599 as a signatory to UNDRIP be informed about the need to ensure that Indigenous 298 00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:45.599 bands in America must also be consulted in the creation, monitoring, and decommissioning 299 00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:52.519 of major energy projects. As many in Nishnabe have stated, Goldway one is 300 00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:56.400 in Nishnabe, we are one a Nishnabe family, no matter if we are 301 00:31:56.440 --> 00:32:02.400 a US federally recognized tribes or Canadian Indian act bands. I also like the 302 00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:07.200 highlight the ongoing situation in Thunder Bay, Ontario with the over policing and over 303 00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:13.279 incarceration of our people, our two spirited, missing, murdered Indigenous women and 304 00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:17.119 girls concerns, and the deaths of young Indigenous peoples in that community. There 305 00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:22.359 has been a number of expert reports presented that require a strong commitment implementation to 306 00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:27.400 remedy the human rights situation, and we encourage the Government of Canada and the 307 00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:31.359 Province of Ontario to follow the direction given by those reports as we continue to 308 00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:37.359 monitor the situation and advocate for safer living conditions for our own inditional peoples and 309 00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:45.759 other Indigenous peoples in thunder Bay. Additionally to that, policing remains a core 310 00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:50.640 issue for Indigenous peoples, and I like to highlight that the Ontario First Nations 311 00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:54.599 police chiefs have filed a complaint with the Canadian Human Rights Commission on the inequitable 312 00:32:54.680 --> 00:33:00.799 funding of Indigenous police services. We've seen the value of Indigenous these forces being 313 00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:07.319 run for and by the community. They are more responsive and understanding of intergenerational 314 00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:13.279 trauma and how that leads to more Indigenous people as being in contact with the 315 00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:19.000 police. We at the Ignition of AC Nation are also concerned with safeguarding nition 316 00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:23.640 of AAC sovereignty, possession and jurisdiction over data, genomics, omics, and 317 00:33:23.799 --> 00:33:30.880 artificial intelligence. Current data practices, both in force and draft legislation, do 318 00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:35.440 not align with addition of ac nation sacred duty to protect, preserve, and 319 00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:40.240 ensure the well being of the peoples of the Seven Generation. We are worried 320 00:33:40.319 --> 00:33:45.680 that data priorities that weaponized data could create further dispossession at the expense of our 321 00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:53.079 inherent rights with that is important to engage on his international stage to monitor how 322 00:33:53.160 --> 00:34:00.119 state actors will use novel or complex jurisdictions like data governance or the implementation of 323 00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:06.559 FPICK to push through agendas that serve corporations and not people. As a Nichinabe 324 00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:09.400 people, we worry that a lack of attention to the guidance and wisdom of 325 00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:15.440 indigenous people will lead to more poor policies for human health and well being. 326 00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:21.039 We are proud to stand alongside our international indigenous brothers and sisters and call for 327 00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:29.159 sustainable future based on indigenous leadership than glitch. Thank you very much to all 328 00:34:29.239 --> 00:34:34.320 of our speakers. We are told that we have we're okay for time in 329 00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:38.639 terms of Q and A because there's nobody coming after us, so really appreciate 330 00:34:38.760 --> 00:34:44.440 that and understand its customary for the first question to go to the UNCA, 331 00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:49.400 which is the United Nation's correspond association. So I'm not sure if one of 332 00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:52.159 them is in the room with the question. If not, we'll just open 333 00:34:52.239 --> 00:35:04.800 it up for general questions. Sorry, we need to get you a mic. 334 00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:15.480 Yeah, yeah, the mic is on on your side. There you 335 00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:20.719 go, YEA working for the French. I'm just would like to ask you 336 00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:28.079 to elaborate a little more on the on the situation of women. And I'm 337 00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:30.599 on the other hand here at the UN and this forum, you can see 338 00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:37.480 that a lot of leaders women are participating, which is the situation in the 339 00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:43.360 in the in in your in your lands, and I'm here. It's just 340 00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:47.360 like it's a little contradiction because could you well, I don't know if it's 341 00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:53.440 a contradiction, but I think it's it's like a huge powerful empowerment of women 342 00:35:53.559 --> 00:36:01.199 in a in a in among the indigenous population. Right, can you display 343 00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:15.360 thank you? Did you want a specific panelist or just generally Okay, So 344 00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:21.079 the question it's about if there's a contradiction because there's more Indigenous woman in leadership, 345 00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:27.280 but there's also missing a murdered Indigenous woman epidemic happening. Yeah. Well, 346 00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:30.679 as as I mentioned, traditionally, Indigenous women have always been leaders in 347 00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:35.480 their communities. We have our matriarchs and so forth, but Indigenous women and 348 00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:43.280 are two spirited brothers and sisters have been targeted because of that respect and authority 349 00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:46.400 that we've always held in our communities. So for a very long time that 350 00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:53.880 colonial ideology of a hierarchy and patriarchy and misogyny has also been embedded in our 351 00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:59.519 communities. As mentioned the Indian Act, the band council system something that we 352 00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:01.800 never incented to. We have treaty rates, we have inherent rates, but 353 00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:07.599 we've never had an implementation of a treaty act or actually had the Indian Act, 354 00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:14.840 which was incredibly racist and it actually created more harm. And that's where 355 00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:19.679 the band council system was implemented. And from that that implemented a lot of 356 00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:22.519 those colonial ideologies and so that's why we didn't have a lot of women and 357 00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:25.400 leadership for a very long time. And that's where we see a lot of 358 00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:30.880 lateral violence as well in our communities because that comes from that colonial violence. 359 00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:36.159 And now we're dealing with colonial violence and lateral violence and harms on our peoples 360 00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:39.639 when it comes to missing a murdered Indigenous people in general, and we see 361 00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:45.000 a rise in that. But now we see that traditional women in leadership coming 362 00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:49.760 to the forefront at the same time. And that's why I think we're talking 363 00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:55.199 more about our missing and murdered Indigenous sisters and two spirited relatives because this has 364 00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:59.880 been overlooked for far too long, and we just had our first national gather 365 00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:05.239 in Vancouver and you know there was thousands of families. The FSI in serves 366 00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:07.960 one hundred and twenty eight families and our province alone, and that's not even 367 00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:12.320 all the families for missing a murdered. We don't have any justice being served 368 00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:20.599 because the justice systems also racist. And then if those women we're non Indigenous 369 00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:22.880 women, I think this issue would be taking more seriously and it's time for 370 00:38:23.039 --> 00:38:27.079 us to all take this issue more seriously, to put it into it so 371 00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:34.800 that we can feel safe on our own land. So when we talk about 372 00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:45.639 what we talk about perspective from matriarchy or a perspective of life givers and our 373 00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:51.000 role. That's essential in our families, but it's also essential in our governance 374 00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:58.199 structure. As was mentioned, we need to continue the traditional knowledge to have 375 00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:05.760 that foundation not just for ourselves, but are families the community in the nation. 376 00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:09.840 So with the disruption of the colonial cloak or the colonial framework as we 377 00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:16.880 mentioned earlier and the Indian Act, it displaced that role and the Indian residential 378 00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:23.360 schools that removed our children broke down the families. So the families were they 379 00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:28.199 didn't what they knew it they were doing. They're not just taking the Indian 380 00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:32.920 out of the child, they were taking the entire family governance structure and the 381 00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:37.400 community and nation structure out when they did that. So they did it on 382 00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:43.039 purpose besides the language and the culture. So many of the nations now are 383 00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:47.039 rebuilding or reconnecting, I guess is a better word. In our world, 384 00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:52.920 it's more stronger reconnecting with who we are, our teachings or culture are. 385 00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:58.679 And one of the elders told me that sometimes even in our families, we 386 00:39:58.760 --> 00:40:01.400 don't even know how to talk to each other there anymore because of that whole 387 00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:06.960 colonial system. You know, the children weren't supposed to be heard from, 388 00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:10.599 the women were you know, not being acknowledged or respected. So their violence 389 00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:16.719 continued from residential school into the communities, and a lot of that is being 390 00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:22.559 restructured, even though with the Indian Act it's really hard because it's almost like 391 00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:29.039 a conditioning in the community because they are trying to remember what who worry before 392 00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:31.960 that. So when we take go back on the land and when we hunt 393 00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:36.960 and neifish, and we harvest and get plants and medicines, there is that 394 00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:39.440 collective memory that comes back of who we are as a nation, as a 395 00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:44.440 people, and how we need to have that balance in that harmony. So 396 00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:51.840 will the Indian Act structure survive? You know, I don't know. You 397 00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:55.159 know, it's some nations are doing hybrid type things. I'm looking to the 398 00:40:55.320 --> 00:41:01.280 nations that are reconstituting themselves in the sense of reconnecting with the land and their 399 00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:06.480 governance systems. There are some in the nations that are doing that, and 400 00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:10.039 I always explain to our leadership not to be afraid of it. I said, 401 00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:15.960 many of you are already spokespersons in your families. Ideally, my older 402 00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:21.440 sister would be our spokesperson our patriarchy. My mother is eighty six, so 403 00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:23.639 she's still the one that's in our you know, calls all the shots, 404 00:41:23.719 --> 00:41:30.599 I guess, but you know that I think our people had that system for 405 00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:36.400 a reason, right and pass that on. A lot of our laws are 406 00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:42.320 based on coexistence with everything and interconnectedness. So I just wanted to say that 407 00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:46.119 and really support what Alis saying about that structure, because we're going into the 408 00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:52.760 whole implementation of the UN Declaration, but it doesn't mean we're implementing the colonial 409 00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:57.960 structure continually, we need to shift from that and protect our territories like you 410 00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:01.159 know what our nations here are taught talking about and rebuilding. I heard a 411 00:42:01.199 --> 00:42:06.920 lot of great words from our chiefs here that how they're talking about doing that, 412 00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:10.719 and that's where we need the resources and the funding and the government to 413 00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:15.519 quit taking us to court when we're standing up for our own land, our 414 00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:20.760 own water, and our own people. Thank you both for them. Do 415 00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:24.159 you just want to add one more thing to this conversation. As the first 416 00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:30.599 woman national chief, these spaces are particularly difficult for women, especially at this 417 00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:36.280 juncture, and being the first is always a really difficult place to be. 418 00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:43.280 And so we're seeing the resurgence of matriarchy and the respect of matriarchy happening, 419 00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:47.519 but we're not to the place of gender equality or gender parity and leadership. 420 00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:52.519 Women are half the population yet right now, I think we stand at about 421 00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:57.079 twenty four percent of chiefs across Canada, so we still have quite a ways 422 00:42:57.079 --> 00:43:00.760 to go. But what's interesting about this question is that you know, we 423 00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:07.639 are bringing forward those issues that have not been discussed in the past. And 424 00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:15.079 this is the second United Nations form where I have spoken about missing and murdered 425 00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:21.719 Indigenous women and girls. And so what's important about this issue is that there 426 00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:28.039 are families that are affected directly, and those families need a space internationally. 427 00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:32.079 And that's why I had asked former cook P G. D Wilson to be 428 00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:37.000 the voice of not only her family, but to let other family and families 429 00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:40.679 know that there's a space for them here. But last October, the Commission 430 00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:46.559 on the Elimination of Discrimination against Women release the General Recommendation on the Rights of 431 00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:52.320 Indigenous Women and Girls, and so this is her historic i would say, 432 00:43:53.440 --> 00:44:01.719 human rights document providing legally binding recommendations obligations to governments around the world. So 433 00:44:02.280 --> 00:44:08.239 we're calling on governments everywhere, all the nation states that belong to the UN 434 00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:15.880 to make sure that this recommendation is implemented. And it's very much connected to 435 00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:20.960 the work that we are trying to do in creating spaces for conversations about missing 436 00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:24.480 and murdered Indigenous women and girls. And to us people, now, I 437 00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:28.360 just want you to know that we do have some young people, our youth 438 00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:32.480 leaders here, so if there are questions, we want to let you know 439 00:44:32.599 --> 00:44:36.639 that they're available to come up to the mic as well. Because it's not 440 00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:39.800 just about the panel at the front. But we know that our youth leaders 441 00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:45.000 have been doing great work here at the UN, you know, facilitating, 442 00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:50.159 participating in many many side sessions and so and leading some of them. So 443 00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:55.079 that's really important work for the future as we move forward here at the UN 444 00:44:55.159 --> 00:45:00.480 and become more and more active and look toward a permanent me mechanism, a 445 00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:06.400 permanent space for Indigenous women, which was called for today by a representative from 446 00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:09.800 I believe, Central America. So with that, I'll turn back and see 447 00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:13.480 if there are any questions in the room, and if not, I'll go 448 00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:16.320 to the online. I'm not sure if there are any people online who had 449 00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:22.079 their hands raised or had any questions, but anyone in the room, Chief, 450 00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:27.760 Yeah, you have to grab a mic. It's right beside you to 451 00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:36.239 the left. Sorry about that. You've all heard about carbon credits. What 452 00:45:36.360 --> 00:45:45.880 are your thoughts on carbon credits? Go ahead? I think they're always inventing 453 00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:50.000 something more and more and more, ten years, more credits, more, 454 00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:54.760 and that they can control. I know our elders say, how can you 455 00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:59.039 control water? How can you control the air? Well? You know, 456 00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:05.360 Mother Nature control or creator controls that. So I think they're just coming always 457 00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:12.719 up with more things they can trade to pollute more and contaminate more and justify 458 00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:19.159 more what they're doing. So if we take the carbon credits from the Amazon 459 00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:22.239 or another country, or I can pollute more over here. So it's not 460 00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:29.880 really a fair process. I think it's just like in more mathematical numbers to 461 00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:35.559 use. So I think it's our jurisdiction, our laws, and our ways 462 00:46:35.639 --> 00:46:40.039 and knowing that at the end of the day are going to be what we 463 00:46:40.159 --> 00:46:44.199 need to be leading with. I know one of the chiefs in our area 464 00:46:44.280 --> 00:46:49.039 one time, when he first was hearing about climate crisis will change at that 465 00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:53.519 time and the Arctic people, we're telling us it's already here. He was 466 00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:58.519 saying, well, how do we control that in our territory these government and 467 00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:04.119 state industry is doing. Is maybe we should just have our laws already. 468 00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:09.079 You know what, we can't see the zero emissions in our territory. So 469 00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:13.440 he said that's what he told me anyway, But anyway that there's probably more 470 00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:19.079 a sophisticated way to answer that. But I just was also asking our elders 471 00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:22.719 what they thought about it, but they so just coming up with something else 472 00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:27.599 to trade to justify continued pollution which we know needs to end because of the 473 00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:34.559 climate crisis. Goad Chief, Grand Chief, Grand Council Chief. Yeah, 474 00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:37.360 I view it as another way to pass off on exactly what she said, 475 00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:40.400 another way to pass off on things that could be tangibly done right away. 476 00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:45.199 As I mentioned in our discussion, the line five. Line five could effectively 477 00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:49.119 be shut down. It was supposed to be shut It's supposed to have a 478 00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:52.559 duration of fifty years. It's well beyond the fifty years now it's fifty years 479 00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:58.880 plus another fifteen years of operation plus plus however long they can keep it going 480 00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:01.360 with a lot of their court challenges and everything else they're doing, or the 481 00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:07.119 interference that Canada can run for them. That's a tangible thing that they could 482 00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:15.800 do tomorrow. It wouldn't impact the very heavily on fuel or oil in any 483 00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:17.480 way, shape or form. They can transfer it somewhere else if they really 484 00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:24.360 wanted to, in other avenues of transferring it. But they choose to keep 485 00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:29.400 that line in operation for no reason. That also, Yeah, there's more 486 00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:31.960 effective resources that they could do, or more effective things that they can do 487 00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:37.360 that they're not doing. Thank you and thank you for the question, any 488 00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:52.639 other questions in the room or online there's one question or somebody has their hand 489 00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:57.119 up. Sorry, I'm looking at the technician in the room. Maybe Andrew 490 00:48:57.199 --> 00:49:06.320 you could ask him. Okay, no questions online? Okay. Well I 491 00:49:06.440 --> 00:49:08.159 don't see anybody else raising their hand in the room. So I want to 492 00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:19.239 again thank the panelists for participating and U as promised. We heard a lot 493 00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:31.119 about the murder and missing women in Canada, that these Indigenous mothers and sisters 494 00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:39.880 have been stolen and some herd one was found in the landfill, and the 495 00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:52.239 statement made that we are not trash or garbage. The struggle comes down to 496 00:49:52.360 --> 00:50:00.079 this more than anything else, is that that Indigenous people are human beings and 497 00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:07.519 should be treated as human beings and not as something they could be just tossed 498 00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:14.760 away because it well, I think just didn't count to begin with. That 499 00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:23.079 is the attitudes that were they brought about the colonial system and the genocide attempts 500 00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:30.159 they came along with it. 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